All Episodes
Dec. 3, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
53:14
The FAKE Nationalist Movement EXPOSED

In this exclusive interview, Australian content creator Auspill breaks his silence on the viral controversy that shocked the nationalist scene: his bizarre confrontation with Avi Yemini at a major Australian patriotic event, and the moment he was accused of being a “Nazi” and forcibly removed, despite having no ties to National Socialism whatsoever. ⇩ELIJAH’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ TELEGRAM https://t.me/SlightlyOffensive ➤ GAB: https://gab.com/elijahschaffer __ ⇩AUSPILL’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: aus_pill ➤ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/auspilled/reels/

Participants
Main voices
e
elijah schaffer
28:11
h
hugo lennon
16:30
Appearances
Clips
a
alec penstone
00:43
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I've already said we don't want Nazis here.
You're not Nazis.
You are.
hugo lennon
I'm an Australian nationalist.
elijah schaffer
Well, we don't want Australian nationalists here.
hugo lennon
You don't want Australian nationalists.
No Australian nationalists on the bottom.
unidentified
Put on your mic first.
We know you're a Nazi.
What does the Heich Heij stand for?
Helli Anson.
It's a well-you all seem to be matching.
You're cute like that.
Welcome back to another episode of Slightly Offensive.
elijah schaffer
I'm your host, Elijah Schaefer.
And there was an interesting interaction that took place this last week in Australia, down under, where hit correspondent for the IDF, former soldier for Israel, Avi Yemeni, ran into Australia first representative, Ozpil, at the Put Australia First March, to which we found out this was actually an op for the Zionist movement trying to somehow co-opt this fight for nationalism across the West.
Jewish individuals, Israeli psyops trying to undermine, overpower, and destroy any type of nationalist movement, particularly white nationalist movement.
I'm really shocked about that.
Avi Yemeni said there's no room for Australian nationalists anymore inside of the put Australia first movement.
And the interaction, this entire interaction, didn't really hit the news.
So I thought we'd cover it today.
Joining me to talk about this is my guest today.
You might know him personally as Ozpil.
Welcome to the show.
hugo lennon
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, it's brilliant to be back with you this time, though.
Streaming all the way down under.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and of course, bringing me all the hope and joy that I need.
We still have our regular, we still have our regular Gen Z extremist.
And like all modern extremists, he's brown.
He's a little shorter than average, just has a more to love in general.
And he wants to see the system burn.
So welcome back.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.
It's always good to be here.
All right.
elijah schaffer
So let's talk about this.
So we got a crazy interaction that happened.
I want to break this down piece by piece, but I was feeling really bad because all that really happened here was the news came out of this crazy interaction between you and Avi, where we really see the systems fighting, right?
You have the sort of Israel first, neocon, globalist, old guard establishment like Avi Yemeni and his friends.
And then you have the sort of new right, right?
You have Ozpil, you got Sterling Cooper, you got Joel Davis, and the rest of the lot who are sort of their own brands saying, hey, our ancestors didn't die.
They didn't fight on Gallipoli.
They didn't fight, you know, Anzac Day so that our kids couldn't compete with Indians for jobs and for places in school.
They didn't die and fight so that we could, you know, wait six months or a year for a surgery from our overused and abused social health care system.
And so you guys ended up, you ended up going to the march in America first, Australia first, Canada first type of person.
So people understand there's people who are not American, who believe in America when we're here, but when you're in Australia, it makes sense to be fighting for what's going on in Australia.
And this is kind of crazy.
So I want to play it here.
I want to break it down with you.
Let's watch this.
Let's talk about this.
Here's your interaction.
And tell me real fast, Oz.
What was going on here?
We see this march that's happening.
What was this march?
hugo lennon
Yeah, so some might recall myself.
I was a leader of the March for Australia rallies, which took place in August and October.
And these were genuine nationalist rallies because they had elements of the right, which represented an anti-immigration message from the center, you know, your default economic arguments through to your cultural arguments and then through to even your demographic arguments.
And that was a very genuine, like nationalist, I would say, expression of the Australian people.
And then because they were so successful, elements of the establishment looked at this and said, uh-oh, we can't let these people, genuine outsiders, genuine people expressing the will of the people.
Have this movement and so little spin-off marches started popping up, and this is one of them.
This is one of them that was supported by the mainstream media, supported by people like Rvi Yemeni, and it was called the Put Australia First rally, and it was trying to emulate everything that the March For Australia did, but tone down the message right to be uh, more milquetoast.
You know, take us back the last 10 years, 20 years of stagnation of the conservative movement.
And so when I went to it um, I actually flew in that morning from America, I took the uber home, took the uber to this park, I rocked up to, really just just to have a look.
Um, because this march had a speaker, a senator, Pauline Hansen, who's a leader of ONE Nation.
I wanted to see her speak, and I wasn't there to disrupt, I was just genuinely interested to hear her speak.
I've never seen her in person.
And I get there and it's within 10 minutes.
The interaction we're better watch unfolds.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so let's, let's look at this.
So so you show up, you go to talk to Avi and um, it's so insane, watch this.
So we're gonna wait.
hugo lennon
Now, I don't even got him.
He points, he points down, he comes over with this whole entourage, and we'll watch it now.
unidentified
All right, check this out here to see uh elected representative speak.
Yeah no, i've already said we're not what Nazis you are, not Nazi you are.
I'm an Australian nationalist, nationalist here.
hugo lennon
You don't want Australian nationalists.
elijah schaffer
All right.
So this is absolutely crazy.
He goes up to you.
This is that that same old thing where people say, stop harassing me, stop harassing me.
Um, when they walk up to you, you know, at a, at a liberal march here in the United States.
So you have a former IDF soldier.
Who are these guys he's with that are in these, these like green safety vests?
I don't understand, because they obviously said, you're not welcome Australian nationalists.
Your version which, quite frankly, what is your version that they don't like?
hugo lennon
Uh, probably one that doesn't express like pure civic nationalism.
Uh, probably expressing a form of Australian nationalism that's uh, conceptualizes an Australian identity that's congruent with Australian history.
Um, you know the actual nationalism, not this like new brand, that's like system approved and establishment approved, like they espouse.
And the groups actually there, the Australian Peacemakers, are a largely a Christian Zionist group.
However, the people they were there with on the day were the Lions OF ZION, a Zionist activist group here in Australia.
So I was being confronted by AVI Yemeni, a Jewish activist group, a Zionist activist group and a Christian Zionist activist group.
I was just, it was just total.
Yeah, there was no Australian nationalist confronting Australian nationalists.
It's just these foreign ideologues confronting me.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so they're confronting you.
They don't want your branch, they want, WANT, you know, civic nationalists.
They don't want your branch.
They would call it white supremacists or white nationalists, but I would say you're sort of like me, where you just want to align with the founding principles of your country.
Like people ask me, what is extremism?
I go, extremism is wanting America to be the nation that the founding fathers said it should be.
And unfortunately, for our Gen Z extremists here, I'm not sure they're going to let you stay.
hugo lennon
This is extreme.
You know, like a young patriot getting confronted by a former Israeli military soldier.
Like, is that this?
And this is why it's ringing so many alarm bells for people because it's like this guy fought for a foreign military.
I mean, he was born in Australia, of course, but he still went and fought for them.
He had a gym in Melbourne that would recruit for that army, a Kraft Magaj.
I mean, this is insane that it's even happening in this country.
I mean, this, if we lived in a real country, people like him would be barred from our political sphere, frankly.
He's literally a foreign influence agent, and I don't think it's even anything close to detamatory to suggest.
I mean, in the clip, he even confronts me about having just been in America.
And he's like, hey, watch out.
elijah schaffer
We wouldn't be the first person to get sued for accusing someone of working for Israel.
hugo lennon
Yeah, well, I think it's almost like it's almost fine to see him.
He literally did work for them and no less does harbor views that are extremely pro-Israel to this day.
And he even says to me in this clip, he's like, well, you just came back from America.
You know, how can you call yourself an Australian nationalist?
Well, that was the line he was going on.
elijah schaffer
Well, let's hold that because I want to get to that here.
Okay.
So they approached you.
Here's what happened.
Now, check this out.
hugo lennon
First, no Australian nationalists on the bottom.
elijah schaffer
That's Australian PCIs.
unidentified
Good on your mic.
We know you're a Nazi.
What does the HH stand for?
hugo lennon
Ellie Anson.
unidentified
It's a well-known.
You all seem to be matching your cute like that, you Nazis of 2025.
What are you talking about?
No one knows.
We don't know what the HH is.
What does HH stand for, guys?
hugo lennon
Ellie Anson.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so they said, we know you're a Nazi.
So they made a claim.
We know you're a Nazi.
This is like the oldest libtard stuff in the book.
Like, oh, you're a Nazi.
And it's like a Nazi is a national socialist that existed during a period of history that probably aligned or worked for the German government at the time or the Reich government or the Reich aristocracy.
There are people today that could be sympathetic with Nazi ideology.
There are people that could believe in some of the things that they said, of course, not here, right?
Because I love what's happened after World War II.
I think we won so well and so strong.
I like that my city is 70% Indian.
I think it's great.
And my kids have more of a chance of growing up gay.
And if they don't, they'll start an OnlyFans.
That's great, right?
That's that's like progress.
Progress is so awesome.
Suicide rates are literally at an all-time high.
And that means we won.
So that's good.
unidentified
It's a sign that we won that, you know, a homosexual like yourself is able to rise to such prominence.
elijah schaffer
Very true.
That's very true.
The beanie hides the hair loss from the AIDS.
So it's an unfortunate reality we face.
No, but I was going to say, it's funny because he says, you know, you're a Nazi, and it's just meant to discredit.
Like, that's what this is meant to do.
It's like, well, nobody likes Nazis.
So that's what you are.
And because nobody likes you, we don't have to listen to you.
And I think that it's a form of weakness.
When people call people Nazis, it could be taken as a compliment because what they're saying is that you are not playing by the uniparty rules.
You are not playing by the globalist agenda.
Anyone they don't like is a Nazi.
Therefore, if these people call you that, I think it's a good thing.
hugo lennon
Yeah, well, when you get called a Nazi, you're in pretty good company with the likes of Donald Trump, Farage.
Like, I mean, if you're doing politics at all and you haven't been called one yet, then, you know, you're a leftist.
Like, I think even he's been called one.
It's just like, you know, this term is thrown around so much.
And again, it's just like this moral totem they try and like hit you in the head with and they hope that you'll shut up.
But it's been used to ad nauseum.
Like people hear it now and just tune out.
Like it should literally the fact that he's even still to this day shows like how behind he is, not only ideologically asn't caught up, but yeah, even his morality is just totally perverse.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And don't forget, guys, if you're watching right now to join the locals channel, we're doing a lot of content here.
Of course, you guys know I got content on Riff TV, got content out all over the place, sort of doing my own company, my own thing.
And we want you to join the community.
You can join the Discord server there as well.
I mentioned here, I'm like restarting slightly offensive the channel.
We're just going to get content out and make it.
I've been a little slow, Ben.
I just had to move due to doxing.
If you guys were tracking that stuff, we'll probably make more content this week.
So I had to move literally out of my community, find a new place because of this FBI $5 million lawsuit.
But if you want to join the community, it's free.
Go to lijaschafer.locals.com.
Feel free to join.
And it's a really great place to come together.
So check this out.
So they also mentioned that you were in the Helly Hansen thing.
I love the idea, like the Fred Perry stuff during the Proud Boys.
Like HH is a great phrase.
Happy holidays.
Hey, ho.
Hey, ho.
unidentified
Or, you know, being a husband is good because we won World War II.
elijah schaffer
You know what I mean?
So you happy holidays is awesome.
We don't want to say Merry Christmas.
We don't want to offend people, right?
So you might just be woke and like you might be like hot honey, you know?
Yeah, dude.
It's true.
Herpes as well.
Double herpes.
Anyway, check this out.
unidentified
It's cute that you all wear matching clothes.
elijah schaffer
So he's getting agitated here.
unidentified
You can see, oh, it's cute.
hugo lennon
Are you an Australian nationalist?
unidentified
I love Australia.
Of course.
hugo lennon
You never flee Australia.
unidentified
You forgot bad.
Mate, you just came from America sucking up to like you were literally on your knees.
elijah schaffer
Okay, I want to hear from you, Oz.
I feel like this is used by Zionists as such a stupid cope.
Okay.
Like, like Matt Walsh was doing this too.
Like, oh, you're from Australia.
Don't care about your own country.
Excuse me.
Our intelligence agencies, the five eyes, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, Canada, and the UK are essentially one breathing organism of shared Western civilization.
I'm sorry, but the United States, New Zealand, Canada, and Australia are literally British colonies.
Yes, we run our independence.
And yes, you guys, you know, have your own separate passports 70 years ago or whatever.
But like the idea that they try to put that, like, oh, you were in America.
It's like the idea of like, oh, you're in another English-speaking white country with that's a democracy with a capitalist system that descended from Britain.
That ally from the UK.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
What is what was that about?
What was that cope?
hugo lennon
Yeah.
I mean, just to touch on that quickly, like, I shared a post just recently collating a bunch of quotes from around World War II where Douglas MacArthur, Australian prime ministers, people of authority, military and government on either side, America and Australia, were reflecting on the military alliance forming between the two countries and basically saying the cause of the alliance was of a racial alliance, saying, you know, we're brothers, we're cousins, whatever, that this is why we're defending you.
And so that is the relationship, I think, fundamentally in the Anglosphere, right?
That this is how we used to previously see ourselves as literally being related, which we are.
Although now, as a percentage of both countries dwindle in Anglo-Stock, it becomes less so.
But that is the relationship.
Like there is a lot of commonality there.
And again, descending from the aisles, like to to suggest that someone like traveling and studying in America is the same as someone who went and fought for a country in the Middle East in their army.
It's like dude, like really that this is the angle we're going to go for?
Um yeah, it just.
It's a fatal flaw in their argument.
It's just simply that one country's actually have a relationship proven by history, and the other is forged by blackmail, the other is forged by coercion.
Um Yeah, it's one of the natural alliance and one is totally artificial and the artificial one is crumbling in real time.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, like I think, I think the crazy thing too, people do this stupid cop out to me all the time.
There was like, like, oh, they did this to me when I was in Australia.
You remember that, Gen Z Extremist?
Like, I'm an American, like, I'm an American citizen paying taxes, and I'd be in Australia.
They'd be like, you can't comment on America.
You're in Australia.
And you're like, yeah, well, tell that to the IRS.
unidentified
They're always the first ones to point out, like, oh, you have dual loyalties.
Or yeah, you talked about Russia once.
You must be like more pro-Russia than you are the U.S. or you live in Australia for a year and they're like, oh, you can't care about the United States anymore.
You can't talk about Australia anymore.
You have to pick one.
But it's like, I mean, you literally fought for the Jewish homeland.
Like you are not the person to be talking about dual loyalties.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, do you want to see something crazy though?
These people don't see it as a dual loyalty because I don't know if you guys saw, it's literally nuts.
So obviously everyone knows my main studio is in Florida.
And this girl, Tony Mantana, or this, I don't know, this account posted this chick.
They made the first October 7th memorial in Florida.
Did you see this, Oz?
hugo lennon
I haven't said this.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so this is in the United States.
Listen to what she says.
There's a key word she says about this and see if you can catch it.
unidentified
The Holocaust Memorial in Miami Beach is the first place in the world to have a memorial for the victims of October 7th.
I'm here at the memorial and I want to show you so that you can come see it when you're.
elijah schaffer
By the way, it's a good thing.
We want more.
I think we should actually replace all the Holocaust museums with October 7th.
I think I think like, I think it's worse, honestly, and it's more relevant.
So we should do a system update, like a refresh, and we should talk about it.
unidentified
Are you saying a systemic, we're going to systematically remove?
elijah schaffer
Well, the same people that made the Holocaust a thing, we're going to systemically then just are like, we're just going to AI replace the word Holocaust with October 7th.
And we need to remember, it's a very sad day.
unidentified
We're not going to get rid of any of the museums.
elijah schaffer
We're going to have to, we're going to have to, we're going to have to hire the CEO of Cracker Barrel.
I heard she was really good at rebranding things.
So we'll have to hire her and she'll do this.
But listen to what she says here.
unidentified
Watch this.
This is unbelievable.
This is all of the people who lost their lives protecting our country.
And here is all the civilian casualties.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that's all I wanted to play.
hugo lennon
Our country.
unidentified
Who's us?
elijah schaffer
I'm not, I'm not Israeli.
I mean, I just want, I wanted to play that because like you said, that's what's scary is that people do think that like that's their country.
That's who they identify with.
Like, did you see that one?
What, whatever?
I wanted to say this.
Like, it's not just Israelis, though, because there's this clip that I wanted to play for you guys.
And there's this clip where this girl says what a lot of immigrants think and what we know they think, which is that they don't view themselves as American.
They view themselves as, I guess, some sort of like foreign actor.
And even though they get citizenship, they do not actually find themselves or relate to being an American above all else.
Check out this clip here and you tell me what you guys think.
Is this, this is how people think?
And that's why I don't want to make it just calling out one group because all people say, oh, you guys are just calling out Israel.
You're just calling out Israel.
You're just calling out Israel.
No, look, it's other people who have the same issue.
Believe me, we're not just calling out this, we're calling out India, we're calling out South America, we're calling out a lot of countries.
unidentified
Listen, let's say the United States went to war with Colombia.
Who do you side with?
Colombia.
Get the out of our country.
Holy why'd you side with Colombia?
Because I'm from Colombia.
You've lived here for 10 years and you're now a citizen.
Okay, still, that doesn't mean I'm not gonna like sell it.
You have no, okay, I'm looking this up.
Yes, becoming a citizen requires taking the oath, the oath of allegiance.
By taking the oath, you pledge to renounce any foreign allegiance, support and defend the U.S. Constitution and laws, and perform service to the country when required by law.
You do not become a citizen until you have completed the oath ceremony and received your certificate of naturalization.
Did you receive your certificate of naturalization?
Yes.
Did you complete the oath ceremony?
elijah schaffer
I can fix her.
unidentified
So you're up.
Do you remember this?
Here, read that shit again.
I do solemnly swear that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure.
I don't even know what the that means.
Allegiance, Colombia, and fidelity to any foreign prince or the potentate.
Is that a fruit?
What the is that shit?
It's like a pomegranate and a potato.
State or sovereignty.
Did you say that shit?
Yeah.
So you didn't lied to get into the United States, bro.
You have allegiance to Colombia.
Isn't that allegiance?
Originally, you said.
elijah schaffer
Isn't it the problem that you're bringing up?
Is this what you're pointing out?
The problem with immigration?
hugo lennon
It's even more egregious, so in his case, because what it demonstrates is he was actually born in Australia.
So these allegiances, they go for generations.
She moved to America 10 years ago and she has this allegiance.
And she says that's a natural tendency.
But her kids will probably have it.
And maybe their kids will even have it.
And in many ways, all these diasporas, yes, Israeli, Indian, Colombian, and many of them, oftentimes, I would say rightly, have foreign allegiances, but we don't account for that in our governance, in our democracies.
And people, you know, I don't think we should even be surprised that she's saying this.
I mean, I would say it's her right, but it's like it's only nature, of course.
Like, she's going to care for her nation.
Insofar as her nation lives within America, she still has an actual nation elsewhere, the country.
But again, most people will try and act surprised or be surprised to find out that even those born in America or born in Australia have foreign allegiance.
I think it's well overdue that we recognize and we should start accounting for them in the way we govern the fact that these people living within our countries will have allegiances to foreign nations.
And it's a natural thing to do.
And I think it's unnatural for them for us to expect them to just give it up by taking an oath.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, let me ask to the Gen Z extremist here.
Like, obviously, this is why I say that you're the best example, because the joke is, is that the average, like Gen, everyone Gen Z is like a Groyper, right?
And like, they're, they've essentially, like, young people are into celebrities.
They essentially celebratize this movement.
It's like a social thing.
But like, everyone says that they're all brown.
But the question is not just, are they brown?
Where is their allegiance?
Because there's a lot of white people who have white guilt who have no allegiance to their countries either.
They're like, no, there is no country.
It's all stolen land.
If people have heard that, oh, it's just stolen land.
No, you know, we don't, we don't have like, they'll literally be being filmed on an iPhone, posted on a social media site developed in the United States, posted on the internet, made by Americans in a city with skyscrapers, which were developed.
That's our architecture that we created.
This is like not even a joke.
Speaking in English, a European language, saying we don't have any culture.
And it's like, well, does a fish know that it's wet?
Right?
Does a fish, does a fish know that it's in water?
Like, if it's, if it's always in water, does a fish get, does a fish get wet?
The difference, what I feel like, and this is why they cope.
Oh, well, your movement's brown.
Your movement's brown.
Look, we'll have to deal with that.
Okay.
Don't think we're going to let you off the hook here.
We're going to deal with that.
No, but jokes aside, it's like the first, the first question is: where does your allegiance?
Like, that is your first question as a nationalist.
That's an Australian nationalist.
This is why he's not a Nazi.
This is why sometimes I get frustrated with Joel and with Thomas, even though I like them a lot.
And sometimes I get frustrated with Joel Jamal, even though I like him a lot, because they'll take opposite approaches.
Like, Joel will be like, dude, skin color doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter.
I'm like, yes, it does.
And then Joel Davis will be like, that's all that matters.
And it's like, well, then that would mean what?
All white people are pro our country.
You know what I mean?
Like, you have to have some sort of a balance here and realize right now we're dealing with a multi-level problem.
We're dealing with racial issues as a separate issue that does affect the identity, but we're also dealing with an identity issue.
And right now, like, sorry, Jillian Michaels, we don't really care about people in the center.
Like, you would say, where is your allegiance?
Is your allegiance to Cuba?
Where's your allegiance?
Tell us right now, dude.
Are you America first?
unidentified
100% America first, 100% loyalty towards the United States of America.
If you're living in the country, if you've been granted citizenship, it's insulting to give any other answer.
And it's insane.
I mean, as someone who, yeah, like I have descendants that weren't born and raised here.
And it's like the idea that I would have a great opportunity to live in this country and that I would squander that or that I would be not appreciative of that is just disgusting.
And it's gross that there are people that have that mindset.
They take everything for granted, the entire fact that they're here.
I mean, being someone that is here because my grandparents decided to move here and were granted the ability to because of the United States, I have the ability to look at that and say, like, that was a major blessing in their lives.
Like, if they were living in a brown country, if we're being real, like, it's sorry, you said brown country.
elijah schaffer
I just had to play that.
unidentified
Yeah, no, that's fair.
Brown countries suck.
Like, I'm super blessed to be here.
Everybody's this year.
elijah schaffer
Like.
hugo lennon
I love the soundboard.
But this is what confused me.
This is what confused me so much with the RV interaction because like so much of what I've produced, I actually think next to zero, like almost zero words or ideas of mine were espoused, even talking about like the Israel Jewish question through OzPill up until this moment, primarily because as we were just discussing, like so many issues we find politically are within ourselves first and foremost.
And I feel like exporting it and just saying, oh, we're being subjugated by one group, I feel like it's a bit of a cop-out.
And so like in the Australian context, I was focusing on like rehabilitating our identity and the Anzac legacy and the Aboriginal question and all this.
And so I was really surprised when he came up to me and accused me of this and just did this charge because I was thinking in my mind, I'm like, dude, take account of the entire political scene worldwide right now.
Everyone is talking about you guys.
You come up to the one guy who, you know, not for goodwill, but for just reasons of strategy, hasn't really turned that stone over.
And you're going to press him.
And I was thinking to myself, like, you know, the Israel lobby in Australia is sucks for this reason.
They're so hysterical.
Like, I reckon the American Israel lobby looks at the Australian one and gets embarrassed because of stuff like this.
Because at least in America, you've got people like Stephen Miller who try and, even if they're not completely ideologically aligned, they will still try and skin suit the far right, appeal to them, and amalgamate themselves within that movement.
The ones in Australia are hysterical and doing antics like this.
Just, um, it's unreal.
I mean, that's probably why they deployed him to Australia and not to America because, yeah, here we go.
He's gonna, when was this?
unidentified
Was this uh, what year was this where he's running for the recent uh 20 last updated 2017?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, well, look, let me get back to yeah, there's a lot of history you don't know of, by the way.
And also, um, he's one of the people who worked to uh he tried to get me kicked out of Australia several times, by the way, um, and actually worked because he was he was jealous.
So, when I was there, I was a bigger influence.
This is how petty these people are.
Um, he's one of the biggest influencers in Australia for right-wing politics.
And how is it possible, right?
You got rebel news in Canada and the United Kingdom, you got GB news, you have Avi Yemeni.
How is it that these people are all the biggest?
And then, when you're someone like Oz and you come out and you go, look, I might not be the biggest, but I've got the people behind me, I've got the energy.
That what they are is they, it's not all of it's just like loyalty to Israel, a lot of it's ego, and they don't want that, they have a they have a handicap, so it's like they have an assist, right?
They're starting the game out with an invincible life force, like they know, like it's like their brand of politics is like coming out against the jab in 2025.
It's like, dude, I'm actually against that.
It's like, yeah, it doesn't cost, like, that's just like such a weak point.
unidentified
Not even, it was like, it was like, I'm against the mandates, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I actually wish that you got the vaccine.
I got the vaccine, all of my family got the vaccine.
I just don't think you should have to.
elijah schaffer
Correct.
My kids, particularly, I want to say that, which is good.
I was actually mad that they cut it off at like four years old because I was hoping to actually get my sperm injected.
Like, I was hoping for a ball.
Like, I was hoping them to get in and then just sort of like get my sperm pre-vaccinated.
Because I really, I mean, this is on YouTube.
I just want to say I firmly not only do I like that we won World War II, but thank God for the right.
Can we think?
Thank God, right?
unidentified
Thank God.
elijah schaffer
How is this good stuff?
I hope Avi gets more of them.
Go ahead.
hugo lennon
This reminds me, like, where in the Australian scene, I think this is very relevant, maybe a little bit in America, but definitely in Australia.
So much of our like commentariat on the right was born out of COVID because that for many Australians was a political awakening.
And they could live off that for a few years if that was relevant for a few years.
But now, as politics globally, this is a bit of a conundrum.
As a global politics shift towards nationalism, you know, in the States and the UK, Europe, Australia, the same guys who are born out of COVID are now trying to, in order to stay relevant, switch up their messaging inorganically, something they don't truly believe to try and stay relevant.
And so Avi, you know, he goes from the freedom movement, the anti-lockdown movement, and he's trying to skin through to stay relevant into this like new nationalism era.
But he doesn't even do it well enough.
And these antics and these antics prove it.
But so much of the Australian commentary on the right is going to have to be replaced by actual true nationalists, true Australian nationalists, who aren't just doing it to stay relevant, who are doing it out of like a genuine desire to save their country.
And I think this is what this video really encapsulates.
I had a journalist call me in regards to this.
Obviously, you won't name them, but they were talking about Arvi and they've obviously watched his stuff for a while.
And they said his behavior in this video was very unusual because normally he's got some wit, right?
Like he's normally on top of it and he, you know, he'd crush his opponents, but he's lost for words a few times in this interaction.
And I think he sort of knew it was over from the beginning.
Like he's just not going to contend with this.
And when he posted this or when the live stream went up and the clips went out, his own audience, like the people who were with him since COVID, they were commenting and they were like, Arvi, you know, I didn't realize you were like this.
You know, these are people who are just ideological Australian nationalists watching Arvi, who they enjoyed during COVID being the freedom guy, now trying to skin through that position.
And they see he's completely disconnected and removed from it.
It's not an organic position to him.
And so his own audience is watching this interaction.
And journalists are watching this interaction and just seeing a new side of Arvi, one that is losing control of the narrative, who actually might not even be a part of the narrative carrying on.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, can I get you to move a little bit more in the center?
Sorry, you're just getting cut off by the watermark a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, thanks.
No, I agree.
So listen to the rest of this because that's what I'm saying.
It's not just like, you know, Israel first motives.
These people realize that they're losing the market share.
And people like myself, who even like, though I've been canceled so many times and lost my own platforms, I'm able to keep going because there's more and more interest.
That's what they're mad about.
Who's funding you?
They always ask me, who's funding you?
Who's funding you guys?
Right?
You guys are irrelevant.
You guys are forced into our faces.
The algorithm pushes you.
You claim you're censored.
You're not censored.
You're pushing the most establishment narratives possible.
Listen to this.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So where was your last trip overseas?
unidentified
Israel.
God bless Israel.
God bless Australia.
God bless America.
God bless Anglo, the British-speaking race.
elijah schaffer
I just want to point out there that was so funny because then he says, God bless America because he realizes he has to then bless everyone.
So after being like, oh, where were you?
America?
It's like, actually, yeah, God bless America.
And you're like, so what was your point there?
hugo lennon
Yeah.
He was like, as you know, catch me out.
I'm like, yeah, I love America.
Like, okay.
And he's like, oh, well, yeah, me too.
And so he's like, okay, bro.
Yeah, he wants.
elijah schaffer
He got banned from America.
You know that, right?
hugo lennon
Did he?
unidentified
Did he?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, because he threatened and like tried to get some guy.
He tried to harm some comedian.
And so he got turned away at the border and got sent home because he was considered because he has a violence charges apparently on his record.
So he's got, like, I don't like to get people's personal interests.
It's not really important to me.
You know, but like he got turned away and they didn't let him in the country.
So I'm glad to see that he's not sour about that because that was a very, very public ordeal.
And look, I don't care about his personal life.
That doesn't matter to me.
What does matter to me is that he got BTFO'd because he mocks you for going to America.
It's like, dude, literally, like, Australia just bought like 80 Blackhawks from us.
They just bought several billion dollars of submarines.
Like, like, Albanese was just in the United States.
Yeah.
hugo lennon
Very important defense relationship.
unidentified
The ones that beat the Nazis.
God bless the West that beat the Nazis.
elijah schaffer
You know who didn't beat the Nazis, but got beat by the Nazis?
Unfortunately, the Jewish people.
But let's keep going.
It's very sad, by the way.
It's a horrible thing.
unidentified
America, Australia, England.
Do you not bless the English-speaking race?
hugo lennon
You're Australian?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Do you call yourself an Australian?
unidentified
Just piss off.
hugo lennon
No Australian nationalists allowed.
unidentified
You're not allowed.
We don't want you here.
Fake Australian nationalists.
You are a Nazi.
hugo lennon
I'm the fake Australian nationalist.
unidentified
You're hiding behind the flag.
You're wondering about it.
The Hitler agenda.
hugo lennon
What army did you fight for?
Did you fight for the Australian army or who'd you fight for?
unidentified
Man, at least I fought for an army.
What did you do?
elijah schaffer
What does that mean?
Imagine if someone said, hey, listen, are you on our army or on the enemy's army?
And it's like, at least I'm fighting in an army.
unidentified
Hey, like Elijah, Elijah, did you have sex consensually or unconsensually?
Hey, at least I at least I had at least I got it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, at least I did it.
Were they 12 years old or 21 years old?
Hey, at least I got it.
It's like, dude, there's a huge, these facts matter.
hugo lennon
Yeah, that's a very significant difference.
Yeah.
I mean, again, and people are watching this.
His own audience, his legacy audience, are watching this and just being like, wait, this is what this guy actually believes.
Like, I've supported this guy the entire time and like, this is the rhetoric he's going to espouse.
I mean, this has been the biggest failure for him.
And this is why he hasn't even touched the event after the fact.
He just blocked me on X.
I think he's going to try and bury this.
So it's good that you've brought me on to discuss this because we can't live this down.
It's important to know as we move into this new era of politics.
Only those who believe the true position can even be allowed to have a voice at this point or authority over the movement.
Yeah, there we go.
He couldn't handle the ratio.
unidentified
I think he actually blocked a bunch of people.
elijah schaffer
Really important sound effects.
By the way, I'm in my home setup.
So it's a really bad sound.
We have actually a pretty good soundboard at the Real Studio.
But also, just so you guys know, if you're watching this and you're looking to intern for Slightly Offensive, we are going to be starting a new internship program in the new year.
We're going to be receiving up to five new interns remote for the first time.
We've never allowed remote interns for editing, for sharing.
Down here, this was like this Gen Z extremist would know, first and foremost, it's a dangerous job.
Now, he hasn't been around the studio.
We met him actually through a Telegram chat, particularly where we were sharing drone videos of Russians being killed because that's okay.
That's funny.
You know what I mean?
Remember, YouTube said that?
It's like it's okay to show Russians being killed because they're the evil ones.
No, but we were sharing a footage and trading arms on the black market, just typical stuff we do on Telegram.
We found him.
But you would know, right?
People should reach out to Dylan, D-Y-L-A-N, at RiftTV.com.
If you're interested, send a one-page CV and a photo of yourself.
You'd be surprised how many people we can weed out who just can't follow directions.
They'll send like a seven-page CV and you're like, you couldn't follow the first direction of a one-page.
And also, if you're applying to be an intern, we don't expect you to have work experience.
So please do not put like I daycared or something.
unidentified
The more work experience you have, the shorter your resume should be for being honest.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I was like, but please, someone gave me six pages for an internship of like worked in church.
unidentified
That's when you bring them into the office and kill them.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, unfortunately.
But no, but I want to get back to this.
I was just going to say, please, please apply because we have a lot of new shows and each of the shows are looking for their new intern.
And if you're a good intern, the way we're going to do hiring in 2026 is we're going to hire people on as interns.
And if you prove yourself to be good and there's a budget, then you can get a job at the end of it.
So that's really cool.
If you're looking to work in right-wing media, check this out.
Here's the interaction.
We're going to be wrapping it up here, but check this out.
unidentified
You're a keyboard warrior.
You're sitting in your house with your HH.
elijah schaffer
Hey, wait, keyboard warrior while you're out on the field.
unidentified
Yeah.
I want you confronting him face to face.
hugo lennon
I'm like, I'm here in the flesh, bro.
unidentified
Like, talk about me did you fight for that?
The Australian diggers, our heroes, fought, bled, and died defeating your dumb ideology.
hugo lennon
I actually fought for a white Australia.
elijah schaffer
Dude, that's really controversial, though, Oz.
And you came with the receipts.
That was actually kind of crazy.
So you came out that that's what they fought for.
I want to see if I can bring this up here for a second.
You did post.
Explain what you meant by that, that they fought for a wide Australia.
hugo lennon
While I pick up the fact here, well, everyone, and he even said it in the interaction, everyone likes to say, oh, you know, we fought the Nazis.
You know, we fought, America fought the Nazis.
The West fought the Nazis and beat the Nazis as if the impetus for World War II was like one of morality.
Like America and Australia and the West, the Greater West, the Allies were like, oh, we got to stop fascism.
No, like that was, they didn't even care, bro, because at the time, UN Australia had the White Australia policy, an explicitly racial immigration policy.
America had Jim Crow laws, a segregated army.
Britain was racially stratified.
Example after example, right?
The West that fought the Nazis would today itself be considered Nazis by our morality, the morality which stems from World War II.
And so he tries to use this to say, oh, you know, the Anzacs, they fought and beat the Nazis.
It's like, yeah, they fought the Nazis in North Africa, but it was for no reason other than really British imperialism, our commitment to the homeland.
And because through geopolitics, we believe that by protecting the homeland, we protect from the quotes that prove this from the Return Services League, they fought for white Australia.
That is fundamentally what they fought for.
Because things, let's say, like the Holocaust, you might say, oh, they fought to stop the Holocaust.
Everyone knows we didn't know about the Holocaust until after the war, until after the camps were liberated, right?
elijah schaffer
Right, we didn't actually find out a lot about it until the 70s, actually.
hugo lennon
I'm not even joking.
elijah schaffer
We really started finding out a lot about it in the Hollywood era in the 80s and 90s.
hugo lennon
Yeah, most people, I think, you know, it is a big shock to their system to find out that actually fascism wasn't the problem.
It was like geopolitics.
I think many countries might have even resembled some sort of proto-fascism back then.
Yeah, people have this idea that all these young men from Australia and from Britain, from America would storm these beaches from like, you know, moral indignation just to stop the bad guys.
It's just absolutely appalling.
And it's abhorrent, really, because this is a guy who is trying to tarnish the legacy of my ancestors, of the Anzacs in Australia, to use it to forward his ideology, his cause, and is effectively spitting on their grave in twisting it, in twisting the memory and the sacrifice they made.
It's abhorrent.
And it's really important to rekindle because so many people are walking around today in our society believing this, believing that, oh, yeah, to honor them is to ban these ideologies or things which even remotely resemble them.
And so we have to triumph that, really.
I believe that is an important cause is to sort of rekindle that acknowledgement that, hey, actually, the men who fought then are closer to our position than Abby's position or civil nationalist positions.
elijah schaffer
That's the important fact of what's like, hey, all the people that you're praising, there's a clip that I want to play here that was really crazy of this British veteran, veteran, was it GB?
It might have been GB News.
Or let me see.
Let's see.
hugo lennon
I believe if you go to my X, if you look up on MyX, just like type in pattern, there's even an American veteran.
Am I quote tweeting that, what you're describing?
There's even an American veteran saying the same thing about feeling like a foreigner in his own country.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but I'm trying to see.
It was on the news recently.
And I'm going to see if I can find the clip real fast.
What was it?
It was on BBC.
hugo lennon
Yeah, it may have been.
elijah schaffer
UK old.
Let me see.
unidentified
Old.
elijah schaffer
I just want to see if I can find it.
It's like he says it was a waste, right?
Do you know what I'm talking about?
hugo lennon
Yes, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Let me see if I can find it without the cut.
hugo lennon
Similar sentiments have even been shared by American veterans.
And yeah, it goes back to what I described.
Like, of course, what they fought for is not what we have today.
If anything, they fought for the reverse of what we have today.
Because in many ways, Americans, the British people.
Wait, here it is.
elijah schaffer
Here it is.
unidentified
What does Remembrance Sunday mean for you?
What is your message?
alec penstone
My message is I can say in my mind's eye of rows and rows of white stones of all the hundreds of my friends and everybody else that gave their lives for what?
A country of today.
No, I'm sorry.
The sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it is now.
unidentified
Oh, well, I'm sorry.
What do you mean by that, though?
alec penstone
What we fought for, what we fought for, was our freedom.
My father, even now, is that damn shot worse than what it was when I fought for it.
unidentified
Oh, Alec, I'm sorry you feel like that because I want you to know that all the generations that have come since, including me and my children, are so grateful for your bravery and all that for service personnel.
And it's our job now, isn't it, to make it the country that you fought for?
You absolutely fought that.
And we will do.
We want to.
alec penstone
I'm so wonderful to know there are people like you that spread the word around.
We will do.
unidentified
And I guarantee that everybody watching at home will be wanting you to send sorts of love.
elijah schaffer
Can I just go back here on this?
I think there's the issue.
It's like you have a patronizing woman and then the Indian guy.
You're like, I don't know if this was worth it.
Awkward moment here.
But because this panel, we have a veteran, a female, and a brown guy too.
So, you know, this is a nice, a nice group.
But I do bring that up.
It's like, he says, like, they don't want you to hear that.
They don't want you to hear the fact that the people who fought Hitler, who fought him, are saying, dude, it was actually better before that happened.
And that's a really hard thing for people to accept.
It's not, it's like, it's like, dude, we didn't fight for this.
And like, it's always like, we fought for freedom.
He's like, we didn't fight for fascism.
We were told that like we were going to be subjugated under like a foreign, it's geopolitics under a foreign government.
And we wanted independence.
It's like about independence and sovereignty and other things that people fought for.
They didn't fight for the Holocaust.
They didn't fight for Jews.
They didn't fight so that brown people could live in our countries.
They didn't fight for democracy or universal immigration.
In fact, those people were against that.
And the problem is, is that the problem is that once again, with World War II, the truth is that we all lost, right?
So nobody, humanity lost.
Nobody won because after World War II, also all of the colonized countries fought for their independence, were given their independence.
And now, you know, places like Rhodesia were turned to Zimbabwe.
You know, South Africa is still South Africa.
They'll change its name soon, I'm sure.
But it's nothing like what it was, right?
You just have Cape Town as like its own little independent, you know, and the farmers have their own independent places.
But like these countries have fallen down.
Look at what Argentina used to look like.
Look at what Venezuela used to look like.
Look at what El Salvador used to look like.
El Salvador was coming up a little bit.
This statement was brought and paid for by Naeb Bukayli and the El Salvadoran government.
I sorry I have to start saying that now.
But I just mean like your point is, and I want to end this, he's mad because young people are realizing it doesn't matter if they call you a Nazi.
It doesn't matter if they call you names.
It doesn't matter if they say that you're fake nationalists.
None of this matters.
The truth is, is that we can see the tapes, we can listen to the translated speeches, we can read the real history, and we know that we were bought and sold a terrible and big lie that is robbing us and our children.
And we don't want our kids to grow up.
We figured it out.
It's a little late for us, but we want to give our kids a better chance.
You don't have kids.
You're still kind of a kid yourself.
But I do have children.
And we want to fight for these people to have a better life.
Look them in the eye and say, son, daughter, I took the warnings of that veteran and I don't want the world to be worse off than it is.
And I'd rather die hated, standing up for what's right than to live a life of misery, trading my freedom, my safety, and the future of my family so that people wouldn't call me a racist.
Ozpil, thanks for coming on.
I want you to give your last thoughts on this.
And, you know, what you think was the summary of this interaction.
Was it a win for you?
Was it a win for the movement?
And where can people get those HH sweaters?
hugo lennon
Yeah, well, I think it's a win for the movement because we're airing out the people who, as I mentioned throughout the stream, rose to prominence during COVID and now somehow persist in this nationalist era on false pretenses.
Like they have this clout and this goodwill from COVID and they're trying to maintain their relevance and they're trying to keep it alive here.
But it's obviously detrimental to the movement because they're not here organically.
They don't actually believe these positions.
And this movement was a victory because it exposed that.
It exposed that when faced against an actual Australian nationalist that he's hostile to even the slightest semblance of it.
Even the jacket I was wearing caused offense to him.
But yeah, the Heli Hansen jackets, look, it's actually for the quality it is.
It's an affordable brand.
You know, this is no sponsorship.
I reckon, you know, Helie Hansen, this is the century of Helly Hansen.
Yeah, you got your crew neck coming in, a nice gray people.
We're going to see more Helly Hansen worldwide.
You know, we'll watch you watch the stock price tick up just despite Arby and people like him.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, absolutely, man.
Now, as I mentioned, if you're just joining in, we did just bring back this channel.
And basically, because we are doing more news and stuff on my other network, Rift, we decided like this slightly offensive was born out of sort of bridging the gap between the real nationalist movements and the mainstream.
That's what the show was about.
It's always been born out of that.
The point of this show, I've always called it the gateway drug.
It's like, I'm hoping that people watch this show that are more familiar with maybe my more like normie, mainstream sort of content.
And then you kind of get into this and you're like, oh, who is Ozpil?
You know, who are these people?
And why is it that they're not allowed?
Right.
Why can't they join the conversation?
And I'm not trying to get you to think anyway.
I just want you to ask questions, right?
I just want you to start noticing patterns.
That's it.
And I think that, you know, sometimes it just takes the first glance, right?
Before you start to see the narrative unravel.
And so that's the difference between Avi's people and our people is if you don't want to believe what we believe, life will actually be easier for you in the short term because you'll think your life's good, but it's really paid for in your own blood and the blood of your children because you think you're having a good time, just like sin.
You know, it seems fun.
It seems interesting.
And I hate to bring this up, but I was watching videos last night of patients who had AIDS in the 80s, you know, and it was like talking about Ted Coppel in Nightline, American ABC, like interviewing this guy.
It's like, oh, this new disease or whatever.
And it was crazy because this guy had something sarcoma, like this cancer that's rare that only happens when your immune system's down.
His face was black.
His eyes were muddied.
He looked like a corpse.
And he said something and like you hear him speaking.
He's like, you know, I just like grew up and it started out.
Like I started smoking weed and I like just wanted to have a little fun.
And now I'm dying from this rare disease that like is only a result of my activity.
So people say, oh, homosexuality, all these things, they don't have an effect on you.
Well, for him, it did.
And he literally, this guy died, obviously, of AIDS, you know, and I, and I bring this up just because obviously there's several people on the show that are struggling with homosexuality right now.
And, you know, sometimes they have to wear masks because they're so afraid to even show their face.
It's a really difficult time for them.
No, but I bring it up.
unidentified
That's for the AIDS.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's like he's the guy.
He has sarcoma.
No, but that was a long time ago.
But the point was, was that it really did, it really was heavy.
Like some guy, you know, was just saying, like, oh, I just started up.
I wanted to have a little fun and smoke a little weed.
And then now he's dying of a cancer, all preventable.
It all could have been prevented.
And that's kind of what we're dealing with.
We have a lot of problems because like that guy had cancer because his immune system dropped because he chose bad decisions.
And those decisions were avoidable.
Couldn't stop the cancer now that it's in, but he could have made the decisions to not lower his immune system.
And that's where we're at right now.
We have problems with extremism and feminism and foreign wars.
And these are all cancers in our midst.
And it's because we've all chosen, you know, oh, well, we just want to be nice and we want to be kind.
We want to offend people.
We want to be God.
We want to go past human nature.
We want to be universal and globalist.
And we've sort of taken those very gay.
So that's why I compare it.
It's a very lifestyle of just being and trying to have fun and experiment in life.
But you know what?
It leads to death.
Like all sin, it leads to death.
And that's why the end of the story is: don't be, but also don't let your society be either.
And not in a, not in a just attraction way.
I mean, literally, don't follow the homo global agenda.
Make sure that you realize that we have to start making right decisions.
And it starts with you.
It starts with showing up so that a guy makes fun of you for going to America when he was just in Israel.
He says that you are not loyal to the country when he fought for a foreign nation.
He calls you a keyboard warrior while you're confronting him face to face.
And in the end, in the end, he's mad because you have a popular ski brand sweater on and tells you, we don't want your kind.
Keep pushing until they reveal themselves.
Ozpil, thank you for coming on, man.
You did it.
You showed people what it's about.
You gave the example.
If people want to find you and follow you, how can they support you?
hugo lennon
Yeah, if you just go to www.auspiel.com, ozpil.com, all my socials, a link there.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
And of course, you can find more of our Gen Z extremists and myself at ElijahSchaefer.locals.com.
He's in there, by the way.
The extremist is in there.
He's in the Discord.
He's around.
You can talk to him.
You might want to think of making your account like Gen Z Extremist or something like that, or like Brown Mask or something like that.
But it's good.
So appreciate, man.
He's not plugging himself.
Anyways, Oz, thanks for coming on.
hugo lennon
Thanks for having me.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
The rest of you guys watching, as always, welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
I'm glad to have another episode in the books.
These are just, you know, I'm just here.
These are about the content.
This show is not about the theatrics, about the content.
It's about, you know, putting our people out there.
Have a great rest of the week.
And may God bless the United States of America.
Export Selection