Aug. 27, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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I mean it in a literal way, especially with our friends up north in Canada, the 51st state of the United States.
A gentleman was drinking at a local cafe and he noticed something important.
Check this out.
If you see this here, that's human feces exiting a man's rectum while he's sitting down.
And no, he's not drunk.
He's not a drug addict.
He is Indian.
Exactly.
We love our Indians, don't we?
Shout out to Ed for filming that video for us.
So, you know, the country is sort of falling apart, right?
And by the country, I mean, all of our Western countries, an American man we'll talk about was stabbed in the face by a migrant saving woman from being literally raped, and yet the rapists were let go 12 hours later.
There's replacement migration, eight of the top bureaus of Sydney.
Now the top names are Indian.
If you go to Ireland, it's Muhammad.
And the countries are sort of asking ourselves, why are we tolerating this nonsense?
Well, thank God for Christian leaders in this country, particularly reformed Christian leaders, who have decided that the way to save this country and to reach our youth is to tone police grown men, get mad at them for giving dick jokes, and then yell at the one pastor who's going out of his way to try to help young men who are lost, Joe Webben.
We're going to be talking about the controversy today as it turns out that you can be called a pedophile, a rapist, an abuser, gay, and everything all in one minute.
When you turns out, well, yeah, maybe we find out why the Pharisees really did kill Jesus.
Remember, if a perfect man was murdered for trying to save the lost, imagine what these people would do to you or me, who are imperfect.
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
We have an incredible show for you today because transgenders are killing your kids again.
And no, not just by mutilating their genitals, which we know they love to do, but by mutilating their organs with bullets.
Just to clarify, if they were crying on social media about the fact that Christian children are being killed, that wouldn't be so bad.
Elijah is saying, no, they're crying about something else that is far more petty in comparison with the fact that our entire civilization is being destroyed.
Yeah, but the thing is, what I was going to say is what's really good about this is while it's being destroyed, they're tone policing men instead.
Which, by the way, I got to say this, more than killing kids in churches, more than women getting raped and all this stuff going on, I do agree with you that the biggest problem in the world is a man making a joke about oral sex and a pastor correcting him privately and not trying to humiliate him, but correcting him privately, because God forbid we ever follow the Bible or respect the orders of men.
We have to do it all.
We have to shame people, right?
Because it's a performance.
Anyway, I'm Elijah Schaefer.
We have a great show for you today.
I have to say this now for every time.
Joel Webbin does not condone these statements.
These statements were not made in conjunction with his congregation or his church.
And everything that I say in this thing was not pre-proproved or run by Joel Webbin.
Joel Webbin is a guest and a victim of this show as much as everyone else who watches it.
When you're on someone's show, as Christians, yes, we want to be consistent and we want to be consistent as much as we can, publicly, privately, across the board.
And yet at the same time, the Bible is pretty clear that there are certain contexts, right?
There's a place where you might do one thing, a place where you do another.
There's a time for weeping.
There's a time for laughing.
And the way that I view it when it comes to media and being on someone's show, it's very similar to being invited as a guest in their house, right?
If somebody has me over in their home and I'm sitting at their dinner table with their family and they light up a cigar, I'm not going to say, hey, you know what?
We don't smoke in my house.
Well, it's not my house, right?
It's a little bit different.
So we had a conversation.
Elijah, one of the things that I appreciate about you is you allow me to tell you what I think and you respond well.
And I think you're very kind.
So I want to go on, you know, Elijah's, he's saying all his disclaimers.
We'll get into the show, but I want to be clear with my disclaimer.
I am not ashamed to be on this show.
I'm privileged and honored to be here.
And I want to reach young men for Christ.
And right now, young men are literally being disparaged.
They're deracinated.
They're being replaced, quite literally.
And yeah, I think that you have to meet people where they are.
You need to meet them with the truth, but you need to meet them where they are.
If you have anything bad to say about me, now is the time to get it out online.
I really appreciate it.
I got introduced this last 48 hours to the Reformed community who call themselves Christians and examples.
And I got to say, you know, if I hadn't known other Reformed people, I really would have thought that these people, they're worse than the atheists that I know.
In fact, the snarkiness and ego and pride.
And I don't think that they're not Christians or anything like that.
They're probably way holier than me.
And I know that because they've let me know.
You know what I mean?
They've made sure to tell me and talk about how holy they are and how much better they are.
And flabbergasted while people are killing their kids in the womb.
We have literal church shootings going on.
We have 600,000 Chinese immigrants coming in to keep up a fake school system.
That they're mad, but they're not really mad about what we said.
They're mad that they're losing control of a narrative, which means that we got to keep men weak.
We got to let women control our families and our churches.
And that they're mad that young men are finding out, hey, there was a way that God created the world and there's an order and there's a hierarchy and it's not a gynocracy.
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
You are fat pastors.
A lot of you're overweight.
You need to lose weight and get back to me, okay?
I'm just going to tell you the truth.
Anyway, if you're going to ping Peter for a second, joining me in the studio are my guests today.
Brayden Sorbo, author of Embrace Masculinity, the Catholic token character on Rift and Catholic supremacist, here to make private part jokes and get canceled online for it.
But for a guy who is pretty controversial, speaking of, you know, I am too, but speaking of you, Elijah, and a guy who's been in this realm for 10 years, would you say that the last 48 hours would you say, oh, I'm actually a little bit surprised?
Yeah, you know, if you contract HIV, you know, in certain ways, you shouldn't be surprised.
But if you contract HIV like Dr. Fauci said you could at a drinking fountain, you might be a little shocked, right?
Because, you know, usually when you get something like that, you're into something that you would thought was a bad thing.
Usually, when I thought Christians, my point is like freak out about something, you know, horrible or bad.
I figured there's something really going on, you know, to put your energy in because you got to be careful to not cast your pearls before swine.
And I have to say, I feel very flattered because here I was, I learned a lot about Christianity this week, and I feel like murder and like that kind of stuff was very serious.
We should be focusing on that.
But apparently, the boy is just making a simple joke on air about knees, which you guys are the ones who implied what that meant.
So that's you guys are perverts.
It's called porn brain.
You guys watch too much of it.
But go to confession.
But I saw this really insanely snarky, egotistical, prideful position while talking to somebody about what it means to be a Christian.
And I got to say, pride and haughtiness and bitterness and these types of things turn me off more.
Like I'll deal with a guy who's nice and loving and struggles with sin or is having a problem, is honest with himself than somebody who thinks they're better than everyone and acts like they're not a sinner.
While we literally see that you struggle with gluttony and pride and ego and sin.
Okay.
So it's like when you're on there, also go put out with your family.
What are you doing on the internet?
Go make a family.
What are you doing?
I kind of saw the side of the Christianity that I feel like reminded me of why so many people are leaving Christianity today or leaving the church, I should say, becoming Orthodox and Catholic, because they're finding out that these men have their priorities off and they're more worried about tearing men down than building them up.
And it's really an unfortunate experience.
And I don't mind fair criticism.
I don't mind being corrected, but we'll talk about it later.
Not a single person, the ironic part is our last podcast was about me getting carjacked and robbed of $104,000.
My, you know, possibly could have been killed.
And we're talking about that.
And instead of having concern, DMing me, you know, offering me like, oh, hey, I'm sorry you almost, you know, could have been killed.
I'm sorry you lost, you know, got into financial disaster.
I'm sorry that crime is so bad.
You're a victim of criminal activity and you're upset.
They wanted to police my words and my humor, which is sort of how the church has it completely off.
And these are supposed to be pastors and deacons.
And I think that the problem is that they sound right when they're in their echo chambers and insular congregations because it is, for lack of better words, a circle jerk of religious pricks who've come together and they ordain themselves as being smarter than they are.
But out in the real world, they just sound like idiots.
And we're like, cool, man.
It's like if I asked you for a gun because someone's breaking in and you teach me how to solve the Pythagorean, like whatever, the theorem, right?
Like if you actually just give me algebra or calculus, you're like, okay, that's great.
Yeah, so I think that that's been prescient for me when I think of a lot of the things that are going on in our culture today.
But then you see from the church a lot of the response.
And it does tend to be Protestants.
And I'll admit that.
I'm not proud of that.
But a lot of times it's like, well, you know what?
The biggest thing that we need right now, okay, there's a full-scale invasion, right?
We have Muslims taking over the West.
We have Jews who are orchestrating.
In many ways, I think Islam is the broom of Judaism.
We have 70 million dead babies in their mother's wombs.
And just in the last 50 years, and that's not even counting when you think of the pill and all these other, all these other mechanisms that are just as immoral.
So abortion, rampant feminism, Islam, Judaism, there's atheism, secular humanism, all these different things.
And then a lot of times what you'll get from pastors is, man, if we could just get some more servant leadership from the young men.
And when they say that you have to be able to see through that, what they mean when they say servant leadership is they mean that you lead by serving, just serve more.
When in reality, I don't even hate the phrase servant leadership if we can view it as My leadership is a service, right?
With my family, I'm not just serving my family.
I'm actually leading my family in my leadership because God placed me in that role.
My leadership is the service that I provide.
It seems like it seems pious.
It seems noble, but it actually lends towards people getting killed.
If the captain of some warship decides, you know what?
I'm going to go out and swab the poop deck, you know, and give this lower grunt guy, you know, a break.
And so I'm going to be out there all day.
Meanwhile, there's missiles flying.
And know that the best thing, if he loves his men, the best thing he can do for his men is rule righteously.
It's not the advocating of leadership, but the advocating of ruling that is a service, right?
It's actually you serve your people by leading them, but you have to be able to be honest and say, look, God made me a man.
I'm a husband.
I'm a father.
I'm a pastor.
I'm a CEO.
Whatever you are.
Look at where God has assigned you, your station in life.
And as the scripture says, don't view yourself more highly than you ought, but also don't view yourself more lowly than you ought.
View yourself with sober judgment.
Assess who you are, your giftings, your aptitude, your station that God has providentially assigned to you, and then lead and lead boldly and don't go around constantly apologizing.
Hey, would it be okay if I was, you know, like going to your wife?
Is it okay if I made the decision of where the family goes for dinner tonight?
Like, no, you can just lead and you don't have to be a tyrant.
You don't have to be a jerk, but you do have to lead.
And so right now, it's like what we need in the West, I feel like in many ways, is strong masculine leadership.
And it's no surprise that we're being completely overrun because all the young men for five decades have been taught by their pastors to not lead, to be passive, to be weak.
And I feel like I honestly feel like Muslims should be paying royalties to pastors, Protestant pastors in the West.
Thank you so much.
Like, we could not have taken over your country if it wasn't for you.
We really do have to think that I personally have to tell you this.
I got to thank the Evangelical Christian Church for literally helping to create some of the most systemically problematic areas of my life, for failing to help me when I needed help and for literally helping lead me into sin by teaching me bad theology about, you know, not needing accountability, just being accountable before Christ and things that are heavily damaging in not developing a brotherhood and this, I guess they call it Koinonia or Canaania, however you want to say it.
Not a true community, right?
And also teaching me, you know, that I'm less valuable than Israel, that, you know, those are his chosen people, that, you know, that's who God loves, not understanding the true blessing that God has placed upon us.
And it really is true.
And I kind of want to jump on that and say, however, however, I'm thankful that Christ in Christ's church does exist and persist beyond the limitations of men and beyond what they fail at.
And that you see emerging from this, from this, the ashes of what has failed this nation and brought upon the epic failure morally, including in my own life, right?
This is the key thing.
I'm not going to say I'm like a good guy morally.
That's where we're different, pastors.
I'm not claiming to be better than you or anything.
I'm saying I am a broken man, you know, who is a fallen, has fallen nature.
And I realize that and I want to get better, but I'm glad that people are out there that are not like you guys because they're actually trying to help us.
And I think that that's really, it's new for me to see Christians that are trying to help and not humiliate.
They're trying to help and not shame.
They're trying to help and bring accountability, but out of humility and love, out of understanding, not because I'm above you, but because maybe I can help you and I can shepherd you only because of the authority God's given me, only because of his authority, only because of his cross, not because I'm the pastor and I write books and I'm cool and yada yada yada.
That being said, I want to introduce one of our other guests.
You didn't get to introduce yourself, did you?
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I did not yet.
Go ahead.
All right.
So my name is Wesley Todd.
I help co-host.
We have a live stream three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
So like if you had a homosexual or a guy who, you know, you might say, okay, you're an active, you know, you're living that lifestyle unrepentant.
Okay, well, you can't be a member in the church.
I would hope that, you know, a conservative pastor would say that.
But if you had a guy who was struggling with homosexuality, like let's, let's, I mean, that's, that's flowery language, but let's put it in context.
A guy struggling with homosexuality is a sodomite queer who is fantasizing about plowing other men.
It is an abomination before God.
It's disgusting.
And he's not, maybe even if he's not acting on it, he acknowledges it's a sin.
It's literally a perverse desire within his heart.
His heart desires something that God says is an abomination.
And so many Christians for the past few decades, they would, everything that Elijah just said, it's not that they disagree with Elijah.
They agree with that exactly.
They just want to do it for him.
They would do it for the queer.
They would do it for the woman who's had four abortions.
They would do it for anyone to the left of them, a mile left.
But anyone who's an inch to the right of them, they're like, oh, well, you believe revisionist World War II history?
Or, oh, you believe that there's different races?
Oh, or you like, and the moment that you step an inch to the right, all those things that they, it's not that they don't know how to do this.
Show charity, be kind, exercise grace.
They've done it for decades, but they won't do it for anyone to their right.
And here's the reason why.
It's not because they're incapable.
They won't do it because they hate you.
And like, Elijah, like what you experienced, if I can articulate it for you, what you experienced in the last 48 hours is you realize, oh, these guys, they hate me.
And they don't just hate you.
They hate every young man in America that you represent.
They hate every single masculine young man who can bench above his own body weight and who actually has some level of testosterone.
Anyone who's masculine, they hate men.
They actually hate men.
So they'll exercise charity for women.
They'll exercise charity for minorities.
They'll exercise charity for fags.
They will not exercise any charity for a young, masculine, white, heterosexual man, even if he claims to be a Christian, a brother in Christ.
Well, I think of it as the woman caught in adultery, right?
And all the people wanted to go to stone her.
And those are the same people that are online wanting to stone the person just because they don't like them.
Or even I was reading the Gospel of Luke on the way down here tonight.
And I think it's in chapter 10 when Jesus forgives her sins, a lady's sins, and everyone goes and like, oh my gosh, you can't do that.
What are you doing?
He goes, well, let me ask you something.
If there was two servants belonging to one man, one owed him 50 denariii and the other was 500 and he forgave both of their debts, who would be more grateful?
And they said, probably the one with the higher debt.
And that's all it is.
And I pulled up actually my favorite book of the Old Testament, which is not in the Protestant canon is Siroch.
And I highly recommend anyone, even if you don't view it as canonical scripture, to read it because it is genuinely a profound book that anyone can read, whether or not you agree with it being in the Bible.
But Siroch 10, verse 12 says, the beginning of man's pride is to depart from the Lord, where his heart has forsaken his Maker.
And I think a lot of people are unintentionally, and this is not to call out, once again, to say, I am better than these people, or I am higher than, like, I'm a sinner in need of forgiveness and Christ's blood as much as anyone else, even more so, right?
If God can forgive me, he can forgive anybody.
But I want to say to caution everybody who's taking this prideful stance because a haughty spirit goes before a fall, right?
And so anyone, the beginning of pride is to depart from the Lord because the heart is an idol-making factory.
And unfortunately, what we see with a lot of this movement is people who are claiming this holier than thou, this, well, you couldn't possibly be Christian because you disagree with me on, you know, Israel or you disagree with me on the idea that there are differences between peoples and all differences between cultures.
And so therefore, I won't even offer you the compassion that I'm told to offer throughout the Bible.
Now, there's a difference between those people who are trying to actively work on themselves.
There's a difference between the people who are willing to admit that they do wrong, that they are living in sin and that they're trying to be better.
Like you said, the man caught in homosexual sin is no different than the man caught in straight lust who is perverting, watching porn every single night.
You're living in a lust that is an abomination to the Lord.
You are going to be responsible for those sins, whatever you commit.
All sin is equal in the sight of God insofar as its eternal, ultimate ability, apart from the difference in the blood of Christ to separate you from God for eternity.
That said, and I know you didn't mean this, but that says sins are not equal.
So I would say that guy who is struggling with heterosexual lust, he's lusting after a woman who is not his wife, is in sin.
Absolutely.
But in terms of temporal effects, because there are certain, you think of the Proverbs, and it's like God says, you know, there are six things that the Lord detests, yea, seven that he hates that are an abomination before him.
Haughty eyes is one.
Also, homosexuality would be another.
False, unequal weights and measures.
So thievery, deception, subversion, you might even say usury.
There might be some of those things.
So my point is, I agree with you 100%.
And I know that that's what you meant.
You're just saying that important distinction in the ultimate eternal sense.
Yes, a white lie, serial killer.
Either way, apart from Christ, you're damned.
Absolutely.
And so both are in sin.
And if the guy with heterosexual, lustful thoughts is arrogant and doesn't think that he needs Christ, then I would say that the arrogance, the haughty factor in that equation, can make it more displeasing to the Lord than the homosexual who comes to the Lord and says, like the Pharisee and the poor, wretched man who says, God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
Well, it's, it's, I often use that because it's a great distinction to make because all sin in terms of its eternal consequence is going to be at the same place depending on what you do, whether you accept and like the blood of Christ washes you of those sins or not.
Like your eternal consequence of sin is going to be, but the temporal, there is a very big distinction.
And that is why at the foot of the cross, Jesus says about the Romans, forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
But he says to the people who persecuted him, who put him on that cross, he says, they know what they're doing is wrong.
The blood is on their hands.
And so there is a difference between the level of sin.
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RiftTV.com reports our top story for today.
Kill Trump.
Maniac trans shooter Robin Westman behind horrific Catholic school bloodbath.
Alicia Powell reports.
So we all know that it's a man.
Okay, so just to clarify to everybody, that's a man.
The suspect who carried out a deliberate horrific mass shooting at a Catholic school during the mass that left two children dead and 17 others wounded has now been identified as Robin Westman.
Almost as bad of a shooter as the African-American community.
That's crazy.
19 victims and you didn't even pull it off.
And I know it sounds sad, but that shows you these people are not really well trained.
These are not like killers.
This is like something like of a rampage, like a mental illness.
These are just people who think there's something they're not, right?
So, you know, if you put a Navy SEAL with a gun to take out kids, I'm just saying they would take them all out.
You put this person in there, they don't know what they're doing.
This is the state of the world we're in, is that people are so confused, they don't even make good criminals.
Westman fired through church windows in a calculated act of violence.
Disturbing new details reveal a manifesto and videos linked to the shooter with messages scrolled to the gun magazine reading, kill Donald Trump and for the children.
You can see that there.
Two young children, ages eight and 10, were killed and 17 others injured, including 14 children, in a mass shooting at an Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis on Wednesday morning.
Police confirmed.
Suspect now identified as 23-year-old Robin Westman opened fire at the stained glass windows of the school's church during a morning mass marking the first week of the academic year before taking his own life.
Okay, shout out to Alicia Powell for using the correct pronouns because I've actually seen a few conservative journals who called him or her.
And what's crazy is it's like, you know, the tech companies are less mad about this happening than if you misidentify the pronouns.
I'm not joking.
People are getting posts taken down for transphobia.
And the mayor of Minneapolis actually said that he just wanted to remind people that he still stands with the trans community while he was having the press conference for kids killed, but yet another trans shooter.
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Well, it's crazy if you look at that view, if you can pull it up again, this picture of the alleged shooter, you can look at that face and you can tell there's something that's not right.
And especially when a man takes women's hormones, this should be estradiol and estrogen, everything in a man's body from the moment even before puberty, all of it's tuned to androgen.
It's tuned to testosterone.
A man's whole body, top to bottom, is tuned to function, thrive, build muscle, to be masculine.
It deepens his voice.
It builds his muscle.
It gives him libido, all of that.
What you do when you take transgender individuals, you're bombarding not just their organs, their psyche, their brain with chemicals, estrogen in the case of men, their whole body is not ready to take.
So you give them this chemical cocktail.
And these people, most cases, men to women, I genuinely think what it is.
It's a medical condition called autogynophilia.
Men watching so much porn that they become sexually aroused by having thoughts of being a woman.
So you get men that from early age, raised on internet pornography, 5, 10, 15 years, they go so far that they think they're women.
They take this chemical cocktail.
And then, oh, this just happened, I think it was two years ago in Nashville at a Christian school.
A transgender, in this case, it was originally a woman who tried to take male hormones, testosterone.
It's a great advertisement for why we need mental institutions.
I mean, we took them away and everything got worse.
Everyone, per capita, per capita gun ownership was much higher in the 50s.
And we didn't have mass shootings in schools and at stadiums and movie theaters.
We didn't have that.
What we had back then was a cohesive society.
People worked together.
People were for, like, my dad grew up in small town Minnesota.
There were like 6,000 people in his entire town.
You could leave your car doors open and you didn't have to worry about anything happening.
Now people in, you know, Oxnard, California, whatever, they roll their windows down just so people don't break the windows in to steal whatever's in the car.
It's like this is what the downfall, the slippery slope.
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My grandmother at six, she would just walk to the gas station to get cigarettes for her mom.
Her parents didn't care where she was in New Jersey.
That's part of the conversation that we have to be able to have, right?
And people get so upset, whether it's, you know, you're talking about race or you're talking about what we're talking about now.
There is a physical component.
There is a physical component.
It's not just culture.
It's not just decisions and behaviors, right?
What we're saying in the case of transgenderism is that this is a person who is manipulating and twisting their own physical composition in such a way that it's now that they're psychologically compromised, right?
They're actually, there's a genetic aspect.
This person is not physically well.
They're not physically well.
And so for us, as Christians, we want to absolutely always hold individuals, ourselves and others, accountable for the choices that we make, right?
So, we don't want people saying, oh, I can't help it, you know, or it's just the way I am.
No, if you commit a crime, then you're going to have to pay the penalty for that crime.
That said, though, we also need to recognize not everybody is the same.
Not everyone is this.
It's not just, oh, everybody is a perfectly, you know, blank slate.
It's like, well, you might have been a blank slate until you started pumping your body with all these different hormones.
I mean, you chemically, physically, biologically changed your composition.
And so, those are the questions that I feel like we have to be able to answer.
We need to do it responsibly.
We don't need to be jerks about it, but we do need to be able to broach the conversation and say, Yeah, the transgender person walking around in public is a threat.
I believe this is a threat to society.
The statistics are way too high.
The likelihood is way too high for me personally.
I'll say this, I won't speak for anybody else, but I do believe that transgenderism and not just as an ideology, but transgender people themselves.
I believe that the act of undergoing surgery and pumping hormones, that it should be criminalized.
Like if you make that decision and you are now in public, visibly cross-dressing, you're visibly, I mean, you're basically wearing a t-shirt that says, I am criminally insane.
But I did want to point out the fact that it's not so hard to regulate.
People talk a lot about not regulating morality.
And look, I'm not like you, like this, you know, monarch type, like, you know, theistic religious guy.
I'm not a reformed pastor.
I can't believe people just found out that this show was not a, you know, a Christian talk show or something like that.
I know.
Cannot believe that.
It was like, it was like, wow, dude, Howard Stern said the F-word.
It's like, wow.
What's crazy to me, though, what's crazy to me, though, is that when we're talking about all this stuff, and we're talking about the show, is that we do regulate, for instance, things that we need, like opiates.
Those are made for a specific, very difficult time of life of pain.
And we know that if you use those outside of that very small window of what you need it for, that you are a drug user, you're an addict, you should be treated treated for your addiction, that it's a problem.
And the same thing goes with hormones.
I mean, hormones that you take, I mean, men and women need the hormones.
They're natural to us.
There's also, you know, real genetic issues that kids are born with.
They need supplemental hormones, but not counter hormones.
Like, you know, you may have a low production of testosterone, maybe having a short limitation in development as a boy, and you may need to, you know, get pushed into puberty or something like that because you're 17 years old, something's going wrong, and you need some sort of a boost.
Oh, same with a woman, maybe lacking your period, 17, 18 years old, need to somehow develop your ovaries and get that out there.
So you may need support, including, you know, Kleinfelter syndrome and things where you might be kind of in between.
And you choose, you know, you're more of a guy.
And so you give hormones and you push in that direction.
You get surgery to kind of shape, shape up.
We're talking the average WNBA player.
So, yeah, but I mean, but when someone uses outside of the realm of what those drugs are used for, we should treat that as a disease, a spiritual disease first and foremost.
And it should be illegal in the same way.
Just because I want to take opiates, I'm not allowed to.
But that being said, the reason why we don't do that is because our leaders, right, Christians were killed.
This is sick, actually.
Mayor Jacob Fry, this is the same guy who cried at the George Floyd, yeah.
Which he should have, by the way.
We all cried at George Floyd, Floyd's funeral, Fent Floyd, St. Floyd, a Fent.
But here at the beginning, where he says, you know, it's not about thoughts and prayers.
They were literally praying, like, mocking, like, look, well, they're praying and they're dead.
So don't give us your prayers.
And you're like, that's, we'll go into the trans community stuff, but that was pretty, pretty rough, I think, in terms of like just beginning out with a mockery of prayer.
Like, maybe we're in this problem because we don't take prayer seriously.
And I think I don't take prayer very seriously in the way that I should.
I started praying in recently, a little bit.
And, you know, it's been good.
You know, it's been good.
I prayed to my wife for the first time in a long time the other day as well.
And so, you know, it was nice.
It was a nice time we came together.
And I think prayer does hold not only an important value for an individual, but if you're not talking to your creator, it's like, you know, there's nothing wrong.
You should, if you don't know how to use a car, use a manual, right?
You put, you know, men don't like instructions for things, but if you're trying to put IKEA furniture together, even with instructions, it's crazy.
No, I'm just saying, like, I think, you know, prayer obviously holds a lot, a lot of, there's a lot of reasons why we need to pray, commanded to pray.
There's a lot in there.
But I still think ultimately speaking, if you're a leader and the first thing you do is kind of mock their religion of like, hey, religious people, don't throw that out there.
Yeah, if that's what he was saying, I would want to see more of the clip.
But if that's basically what he was saying is we don't need thoughts and prayers right now because we already had prayers from the children themselves.
And look, the prayer was ineffective and didn't do anything.
If that's what he was saying, I'd have to see a little bit more context because I know a thing or two, a thing or two about being taken out of context myself.
But if that's pretty much what he's getting at, Elijah, and I trust you, you've seen probably the full clip.
I mean, look, and I understand what he's saying that people say to send thoughts and prayers and it means nothing, but also bad choice of words regardless.
I also want to point this out as well where he talks about the trans community, standing with the trans community, which is like kind of the crazy thing, right?
Where it's like people are dead.
It's what they always do.
You know what I mean?
It's always that typical CIA plot where you come out and a black kid kills your children and then you talk about how we shouldn't be mad at black people.
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Let's not make it about, you know, let's not make it about race.
So this is the classic Norm McDonald joke where he says, he called into like some radio station.
He's doing like a interview on a talk show.
When he says, you know, the worst thing, he's like, imagine, you know, if Muslims, you know, ended up, you know, bombing, you know, some major U.S. city and like a million or even 2 million United States citizens died, you know, just viciously, violently.
And he said, and we all know that, you know, the worst part about that is, could you imagine the negative sentiment towards Muslims?
And the person, you know, like agrees are like, yeah, that'd be terrible that people would think negatively about Muslims.
And he's like, you know, he's like holding back, trying not to laugh, because the thing that's terrible would be a million to two million Americans being blown up.
But here's my point because people will listen to what you just said and they'll get offended.
But when I make that joke, repeating Norm McDonald, and I reference it in regard to Muslims, this is really, I think it's important.
People listening, they'll say, oh, yeah, I see his point.
I see his point.
I see his point that a million to two million Americans dying is the far, far greater concern than people having a negative sentiment towards the group of people who, individuals from that group of people, were responsible for this act.
Okay.
So when you say, when you do the Norm McDonald joke, people will be like, ah, that's kind of funny.
He's got a point there.
But let's be honest.
Part of the reason people can see his point is because in his joke, it included Muslims.
And people are kind of in America a little bit more comfortable with, yeah, I see his point.
We shouldn't be defending the Muslims.
We should be defending the victims in America.
Okay.
Well, now just switch out Muslims with transgender, right?
Switch out Muslims with another minority group in America and say, like, you know what?
The worst thing, you know, my greatest fear is that a black man might walk in, you know, to a mall and bring, you know, an automatic weapon and just end up mowing down, you know, just shooting like 150 people.
And it just terrifies me, keeps me up at night because I know that there would be a negative sentiment towards black people.
That's the same joke.
That's the same Norm McDonald joke.
But see, that one, people, that one doesn't translate.
See, they can get his point when it's Muslims, but they can't get his point if it's black people or if it's the LGBT mafia.
And I just think that if he has a point, he has a point.
And it should apply across the board equally in saying, look, if there is any particular group, right, based on race or based on nationality or religious, right, or sexual proclivity, whatever, if there is a particular group, and it's not just small, but there's a significant disproportional degree of violent crime, then we should be able, we don't have to be rude, we don't have to be jerks, but we need to be able to say that.
And we need to be able as a country to think about, okay, what are we going to do?
I mean, when you're talking about, obviously, people having certain proclivities towards other groups, I mean, they have the same negative reaction towards Christians because of a few fringe Christians who, you know, are like the people online attacking you for just the stupidest reasons.
I have a quote from CNN's Dana Bash, formerly Dana Schwartz, or, you know, what that's worth.
She said the same thing that the mayor of Minnesota did.
Forget the thoughts and prayers.
These kids were literally praying when they were murdered through a church window.
So that's how much hatred they have towards Christians.
I mean, for me, as someone who believes in Christ, this strengthens the faith.
I mean, this is where the devil went to attack.
This is where the bad thing happened.
All it is is obviously a tragedy, but it should also be a wake-up call to understand that there is an attack.
There is this push towards eradicating Christendom, especially because it's on the rise.
And so when you have mentally ill individuals, you know, 2.8 million people identify as transgender in America.
Like 700 and almost, I think it's like 720,000 of them are between 13 and 17.
Listen, and I have heard about a whole lot of hate that's being directed at our trans community.
Anybody who is using this as an as an opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other community out there has lost their sense of common humanity.
We should not be operating out of a place of hate for anyone.
We should be operating from a place of love for our kids.
Well, and the truth is about this that I just want to point out is that when we're talking about these people, it's so weird that we're always going to defend the people that are doing crimes when they're a protected class, a part of their religion.
But when they're a white person, right, it's like immediately making about being white and whiteness and male and male anger and misogyny and all these things.
It's so interesting.
And I want to remind you about the kind of trans shooters that have been out there.
Like, you know, reminder, these have been all the people here in the last year.
The Colorado Spring Shooter identified as non-binary.
Denver shooter identified as trans.
Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.
Nashville shooter identifies as trans.
And Philadelphia shooter identifies as trans.
Now, what I noticed about this is that what, okay, not only is Chat GPT draw about 40% of its information from Reddit.
So when you're talking to AI, you're talking to Redditors.
But also, speaking about Reddit itself, a lot of people who are mentally ill happen to now also be trans.
I don't think it's the other way around.
I don't think trans people are becoming shooters.
I think the people who are mentally ill enough to become shooters, whatever the ideology was that the CIA was programming our kids with to turn them into this, and the healthcare system with the medication were programming their brains to be malleable.
I do believe that now trans is a part of that agenda.
So it's to change them from just being shooters to now being anti-Christian shooters.
A lot of these are Christian schools, Christian churches.
So the ultimate goal here, demonically, was to transform the brains of these people that they're training up to be shooters, which I do believe it's completely a CIA operation.
There's no other explanation.
There's no other explanation for any of this stuff besides what they've been doing in our media and in our environment.
It's self-destructive.
It's not freedom of speech.
We're literally, we have, you know, it goes from our money supply down.
Parents aren't able to raise their kids.
They're raised by the state.
The state makes them queer.
Queer talks about that the only thing keeping queer away, now it's a moral thing in society is God and society because he hates who you are.
So now you have to hate God in order to find true queer freedom and liberation.
And that's really why, you know, it's demonic, right?
It's a cyclical cycle.
And I think that the devil really wants them to be killing Christians.
And that's why you have this trans identity now being LinkedIn.
It was part of the whole plan.
And trans people do want to kill you, just like blacks don't like whites in general.
Trans people, they really do hate, what do they call cis or straight?
The transgenderism program, in many ways, does seem kind of like, it's like MK Ultra, but you don't have to hide it anymore.
It's like MK Ultra, but publicly approved, which is really strange.
And in terms of like minority groups, that is a fact.
And it's not something that I'm excited about or happy about.
And of course, there are exceptions, right?
We can talk in generalities without lumping each individual person in.
But that is a fact, and you have to reckon with that.
They've done study after study.
And they'll say, you know, like in terms of, you know, white people, how do you view other races?
And it'll show, you know, Asian, Hispanic, black.
And then also, how do you view whites?
And when white people are asked this question, you know, people of European ancestry, it's pretty much like a straight line.
It's like, I view blacks here.
I view, you know, Hispanics here.
I view Asians here.
I view white people here, like on a scale, you know, sliding scale, going back and forth left to right from like one to 10, 10 being most positive, one being most negative.
But when you ask every other ethnicity and in America, you know, you ask Hispanics, how do you look?
And it's like, well, I like Hispanics the most, and then I also, you know, kind of like Asians and kind of don't like blacks as much, but really don't like whites.
And then you ask, you know, Asians, and it's the same, they rank whites last.
And then you ask blacks, and it's like, like, we like ourselves, you know, at like a nine out of 10, something like that, if I remember correctly.
And then white people, it's like a one or a two, or it's like way, like very unfavorably.
And so those are just things that you have to reckon with.
And what that, to me, what that conveys is that in terms of like ethnic groups, white people in predominantly Western countries are pretty much, and this is a unique phenomenon that you don't find anywhere else in the world.
But white people are their own in-groups, out-group.
Everybody has an in-group.
Like, you know, you talk about Jews and it's like, hey, can I get an early life check?
You know, every single time.
And a lot of those stereotypes prove to be true, like we talked about on Monday.
But one of the things that you can say for Jews, I mean, you got to tip the hat and give credit where credit is due.
Jews stick together.
I mean, they absolutely stick together.
And part of that is because they've always kind of been a minority.
Wherever they've gone, they've been refugees until 1948.
They were deracinated, didn't have a place.
So they're exiles.
They're sojourners.
And so wherever they went and wherever they landed, they had to stick together.
And I think minority groups, whether it's Jews or anything, that's how they think.
Somalians right now, right?
They're spreading out.
No, they're not.
They're all wanting to go to Minneapolis.
They want to be around their people.
But white people, white people of European descent, we're pretty much the only people on the planet who insist against our own interest that we don't have a people.
Well, I don't have a people.
It's like, who are your people?
I'm just a citizen of the world.
Or if they're Christian, it's like, who are your people?
Christians.
Yeah, of course.
In the spiritual, eternal sense, my people are brothers and sisters in the Lord Jesus Christ.
But temporally speaking, do you have a people in terms of kin, right?
Natural affections.
Do you have, and Christians, literally, if you're a white Christian, 99% of us can't answer the question.
We're like, my people are Christians, red and yellow, black and white Christians in the spiritual eternal sense.
And then my people, if we're talking about a temporal sense, is my wife and kids.
It's like, okay, but beyond your immediate family, temporally speaking, do you have any other natural affections that extend beyond that?
And the answer from most white people is simply no.
And I think that the rest of the world is aware of that.
They know that.
And that's been exploited because it's a vulnerability.
They basically, I mean, imagine that you have one, the richest civilizations in the world.
Most of the world is impoverished.
And then you have this area of the world that's very wealthy and rich.
And they also hate themselves and will prefer anyone and everyone over themselves.
It's a jackpot, man.
If I was Indonesian, if I was Somalian, if I was Jewish, of course I would be pouring into Western countries saying, you guys have stuff, you hate your own people, and you want to be taken over.
I'm moving there.
And so at a certain point, here's my point.
You can pick on minorities and all those kinds of things.
And there's things that we have to talk about.
But at a certain point, you have to say, white people hate white people.
We are the most suicidal people on the planet.
And this is why we must learn to actually view a nation and view kin and these things as merely an extension of the family.
I actually have familial duties, not just to my immediate family of my wife and my children, but stretching back, looking at my parents and looking at aunts and uncles and cousins and then even beyond that and saying, no, I actually, I didn't just come out of the ether.
I didn't just grow, you know, spring up from the field.
God and his providence, I came from a particular place in history and an ancestral line.
I have fathers and mothers who gave, they bled and sweat and died for us and our posterity, right?
The founders, they didn't do it for India, us and our posterity.
And under God, I actually have an obligation to love Christians all over the world, whether they look like me or not, in some sense.
But I also have a particular, unique sense in which I'm obligated to love not just global Christians, but to love my temporal earthly people.
If God wanted me to give my life for Somalians, then in his providence, he could have made sure that I was born in Somalia, that I was Somalian.
But I'm not.
Everyone else on the planet says, these are my people.
And until the West starts to behave and think, and you don't have to be rude, you don't have to be jerks, but until we start to love and feel this sense of familial obligation that the entire rest of the world feels, then basically what we've opted for is civilizational suicide.
And so we should not be surprised when we are overrun.
My great-grandparents, I believe, my dad's grandparents came to this country in the 19th century.
Norwegians, they settled down in like Iowa, but they had in-group preference.
So they came here with other Norwegians.
They all went to a similar area.
They spread out all throughout the Midwest, but they took care of each other.
They prioritized their own personal families first and foremost, but they extended to the people around them, especially the people around them that were like them.
And that's what allowed for them to successfully live in America.
That's what allowed for them to thrive.
My grandparents were born here.
My dad was born here.
I was born here.
But it was all because of their initial willingness to sacrifice for the greater good of their family.
Like you're talking about the beginning of the show, the sacrifice that needs to be made to lead properly.
And so I think a lot of it boils down to, obviously, the 19th Amendment, which I'm sure everyone in chat would agree with as well as us, in the sense that it really proves why there were such harsh restrictions placed upon women throughout the course of history.
It was because, look, there was a divine order in the universe, not because men are better than women, not because women are better than men.
We are the same in value.
We're both created in the image of God, different in purpose.
And so I tell people, Jesus is not less than the Father because he submitted to the will of the Father.
He was just following the divine order that God implemented since the beginning of time.
Women are not less than men if they submit to the will of their husbands, but we have to understand that we play a different part, each of us, in the progression of our nation and our society, and as Christians, as the Christian race, as the white race, right?
So to have in-group preference is not a bad thing.
It's honestly one of the only times I'll ever say everyone else is doing it.
Why shouldn't we?
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Going back to what Elijah was saying earlier, though, about mental disease and mental illness, there's a connection I'll make.
We've talked about hormones, but I think autism is a big one.
Like, how compelling is it to tell someone that's never fit in, they're weird, they didn't have friends, hey, actually, what's wrong with you is not that you're antisocial or this, that, or the other.
You were just born as the wrong gender.
And so you think about vaccines, you think about endocrine disruptors, you think about early childhood influences on individuals.
They develop these autistic tendencies.
They've never fit in.
And we did terrible things by not saying, hey, I know you're thinking this.
I can even understand why you would think this, right?
You're a boy, but you're slightly strange.
You're more artsy.
You think you're a woman.
Like I think in the 90s of bulimia, right?
People were, I'm going to starve myself.
I need to lose weight.
But doctors, and we've got to be honest, there was no money to make from it.
They said, no, stop it.
You're 90 pounds.
You need to eat a cheeseburger.
But with this one, there was millions and millions of dollars to make on the hormones, on the surgery, the lifelong maintenance of it.
And we said, oh, okay.
So we've got these autistic children, these autistic teenagers.
They don't fit in.
And you're telling me we can make $5 million on them in their lifetime and open up these big clinics and insurance will pay for it?
Sign me up.
We have to say that consumerism is also part of what has made this craze among youth and adolescents so bad that in the past may not have been as big of a deal with a different illness.
You know, I want to transition a little bit too into talking about some of the backlash from last night's episode.
Because, you know, I find it really interesting with individuals.
You know, we were talking, I was talking to an individual, we'll just call individual A, who is a conservative ink establishment individual.
And, you know, publicly, they called me a pedophile, actually.
It was publicly.
They called me gay.
They said all types of strange things about me.
And they based that off of, as we all know, we've talked about the show before, a completely fake edited video that a Jewish guy put out, actually, when I was supposed to speak at Nick Fuentes' conference, which I wasn't even in America, so I don't know why.
And they came out with a video where at a 21-plus event that I was at, some man, like a man came up to me and said that he was a super fan.
And I was nice.
And I was like, oh, you want to buy you a drink?
That's all he says on the video.
He says, yeah, you have to buy me a drink.
He's like, oh, well, then he says to Nick, like, oh, what is it?
Our first date or whatever.
So he makes a gay joke, which I think is funny.
I don't care.
That shows to me that he probably has homosexual tendencies, the kid himself.
It's like, if you're a young man, you're like, you know, you're a grown man, you're at a party, and a man, you know, offers to buy you a drink and you feel like there's sexual tension there.
That shows you probably have sexual confusion.
That's fine.
I'm not judging him.
But that being said, that was an old clip from years ago that was actually one of my old producers filmed who like hates me now.
So it's kind of a malicious thing.
And he was telling Nick, this is a time when Nick and the Groipers really hated me.
Like they were really vicious at the time.
They didn't get like that back then.
We're fine now, right?
But you don't want to get groiped, they say.
And yeah.
And then like the video just cuts, like it just cuts.
So they just cut out some version of the video.
And then he talks about how at the same event, he also ran into Ali Alexander.
And Ellie Alexander tried to coax him with alcohol to sleep with him or something.
I don't even know if that's true, but that's just what he was saying.
Now, this Jewish guy, no surprise there, just puts out a tweet and just lies and just says, like a young man says that Elijah Schaefer tried to coax him with alcohol to have sex with him.
Yeah, and then they start saying all this stuff and they're talking with like literal Antifa people.
And it's like, this is where you see the weird nature of these people.
It's like, now you're talking with like weirdos and strange people, which by the way, I'm accessible.
My DMs are open.
My number's not hard to get.
Like, he works for people that have my phone number, you know?
So like, he might not have it, but he can just get my phone number and call me.
And this is where you see the disingenuous nature of these people.
So he spreads all the slit on it.
I don't really actually care so much.
It's the pedophile one is where I draw the line because I just like, you know, call me gay, say I'm a predator or whatever.
It doesn't mean anything.
It's okay, fine, dude.
What do you want me to, you're trying to even rape you or something?
Why are you talking to me like this?
And if I was a predator, I think you would probably, I always say this with accusations, you'd probably be going to the police, right?
So if you knew I was like a criminal predator, you should go to the police and report me and report my crimes.
But if you don't have crimes, then maybe you're just bearing false witness and you're like, you know, a slanderer.
So long story short, you know, then he goes in and he starts asking me, you know, questions about, did you abuse this woman?
Did you do this?
And I realized by that point, I'm going, man, you went from, I like not just boys, but you're saying that I like, what, boys that are underage, to then talking about how I'm actually going after older women?
You're a fucking shithead, motherfucking bitch.
Sorry.
I'm sorry, but it's true.
So you're disingenuous because what you're doing now is you're just looking.
Oh, and he also like, and your wife's a Jew with a green card.
We got him.
We got him.
We got him, ladies and gentlemen.
We got him.
We got him.
That's like our favorite joke on the show.
So he didn't even like, he doesn't know it's a joke.
Like he's like, he's like spreading all this stuff.
But then I realized, you know, I kind of remember those times, which is crazy, where it's just like, you know what?
So if I do tell him I abused women, then it will confirm what he said.
But if I tell him no, then he'll also believe that I did that because he believed I was a pedophile without any evidence.
So this guy would believe whatever he wants.
So I'm not going to, I'm never going to answer him because what I realized, I answered him with a Bible verse about Jesus saying, you know, basically Jesus knew the evil in their heart and he knew that when they asked him the question about the especially with the either the one with the taxes, should we pay to Caesar or with the woman, you know, the Bible says to stone an adulterous woman, the Pharisees were coming to him with questions to try to trip him up because he knew that if he answered either way, because the whole idea of they asked about taxes, if he said, don't pay to Caesar what's Caesar's, then, you know,
obviously the government can arrest him and then he's going to get arrested by the government for insubordination or to whatever extent that was, sedition.
But if he said that you do pay to Caesar's, then he's admitting that, you know, their rule over the people is correct and that, you know, they are subject to the Roman Empire and the people would toss him over the cliff.
So he knew he's like, you know what?
This is a question that you're not looking for an answer.
So then the answer is whatever you want because it doesn't matter.
So what I realized about your detractors, which I don't have a lot of detractors like this, this is what I realized.
I'm going to let you go here for a second.
What I realized about your people and what I learned, I don't deal with a lot of religious, like pharasitical people ever.
I deal with like leftists and like Zionist, like secular Zionists, right?
Primarily.
So I deal with people who are like, they have a weird love for Jews and they don't understand God and God's love for them.
And I deal with people who are like communists who are actually retarded, right?
And like they don't get truth.
These guys are on a on a holier than now, like prideful spike of like, like they come to you going, you're wrong, you're evil.
And then they throw multiple accusations.
And what you realize is what you mentioned earlier, they don't care if I'm a pedophile.
They don't care if I'm gay.
They don't care if I abuse women or assault women or whatever it is they keep saying.
They don't care.
They hate me because I'm willing to platform you.
And because they hate you, the question that I have is, why do these people who claim to be Christians hate you so much that they would accuse me of criminally abusing children?
That's fucking serious.
Mind my language to the Christian audience, but I think it's okay to use an F-bomb when someone's accusing you of harming children.
Because in the grace of God, I am nothing special.
I am nothing special.
But because of the grace of God and his providence, I am one of the premier threats to their religion.
And their religion is not Christianity.
Their highest commitment is to 20th century liberalism.
And they are convinced that 20th century liberalism is Christianity.
So they actually believe that the faith, once and for all, passed down to the saints.
They believe that the Christian faith, the historic 2,000-year-old Christian faith, is the faith of liberalism.
It's inclusivism, it's universal suffrage, it's that race doesn't exist and everybody is exactly the same.
It's men have absolutely no authority and leadership whatsoever except privately in their home with their wife and only maybe three or four times over the course of a 40 or 50 long year-long marriage in the case of needing a tiebreaker.
For them, that's what male headship is.
So they think in the civil sphere, women.
If it's in the marketplace, in corporate America, women.
And even in the church, they think women at every single level, except for preaching for 30 minutes to one hour once a week on Sunday morning.
But even then, they're content with the thin veneer of male leadership in the church context because they know, and you know, and I know, that the real leaders of the church are not the pastors, but what I call the shadow elders.
Who are the shadow elders?
Well, if you've ever been in ministry as I have, the shadow elders, and this is not the case in my current church, but I've experienced it in the past.
The shadow elders are the elders' wives, right?
So when you have an elders' meeting and you're discussing the vision and the future of the church, and everybody, all the men go to this meeting, you're meeting with other men.
You can speak like a man speaks to another man.
You're direct, right?
There's a sense of confidence, right?
You pray together and you deliberate, you determine, you make a decision.
And then the next day or maybe two days later, one by one, each of your elders starts calling you and says, you know, I was praying about it, or, you know, I was thinking about it, you know, and I actually don't think this was the right decision.
And at that moment, what you need to respond with, if you're discerning, you just say, hey, could you put the decision maker on the phone?
Could I speak to your wife?
Because you weren't praying.
You weren't talking to Jesus and changing your mind.
You were talking to your wife, who wears the pants in your marriage.
And that's what changed your mind.
We made a decision as the Holy Spirit-appointed male leadership of this church.
And then you went and talked to your wife about it.
And it offended her feminine sensibilities, which isn't entirely her fault, right?
She's a woman, after all.
She thinks different.
She prioritizes differently.
But the problem isn't so much her.
The problem is that you are going to follow her.
You are going to abdicate your leadership.
So my point is this: apart from a thin facade of male leadership in the church, and it is very thin.
It's very thin.
And a thin, you know, sliver of male leadership in the home.
Other than that, it is egalitarianism.
It is feminism.
It is inclusivism.
It is race doesn't exist.
It's universalism.
That's what that would be.
Everybody's exactly the same.
It's universalism.
It's also universal suffrage.
It's our sacred democracy, right?
That every single nation throughout all of human history was wicked and heinous and evil until the United States of America and until the 19th Amendment, right?
That this is the only morally permissible form of government under God on God's green earth.
My point is this.
They actually believe, right?
When I say it, it's like we can all laugh and like, oh, that's preposterous, that's ridiculous.
But I'm telling you, these guys, they actually believe that is Christianity.
They think that that is, right, when the Apostle Paul is writing and when the apostles are passing down the faith to the saints for 2,000 years, they literally believe the Christian faith, the once and for all historic Christian faith, is perfectly synonymous with 21st century culture and politics.
What a coincidence.
Isn't that convenient?
It's amazing.
So my point is this.
You asked, why do they hate you?
Because they hate me.
You already pointed that out.
You're right.
And why do they hate me?
Because I'm threatening their religion.
I'm threatening their religion.
Because what I'm doing is not as an outsider.
It's one thing if somebody's an outsider and, you know, and there's some Christianity to the show.
You know, like, I mean, you talk about biblical principles, Elijah, but it's different when it's like kind of Christian light, you know, and it's outside and you're presenting something different.
But I'm actually saying that it's willing to talk about faith.
But for me, I'm talking about it as from inside the camp.
And I'm saying, no, as a reformed minister, all of you think I shouldn't be.
All of you think I'm disqualified.
I've heard you say it ad nauseum for years now, but the fact still remains in God's providence until he sees fit to do otherwise.
I am a reformed minister in your house, in your tribe, and I'm telling you, not someone from the outside that you can easily just dismiss and say, well, he's not even reformed.
He's not even a Christian.
He's not even a pastor.
They can't do that with me.
And I'm inside the camp.
I'm on their team.
And I'm saying, you guys have switched out Christianity for liberalism.
And it's your religion.
And I'm banging the drum.
I'm sounding the alarm.
And so these guys, they want me dead.
They have to stop me.
They've got a good thing going, right?
They've got their cute little reform podcasts.
They've got their cute little feminist churches that are complimentary.
We have male heads, but they're feminist churches.
And I'm disrupting that whole thing and not just disrupting it from within in the house, but now going out of the house on bigger platforms like yours and calling the whole thing out.
I actually, I literally pulled up a quick excerpt from my book, Embrace Masculinity.
I wrote a chapter called The Church is Dead.
And I say verbatim, instead of addressing the very real issue of men feeling disconnected from the church, because you are addressing it from the inside.
But a lot of men are inside it and they feel like they're still on the outside.
There's a disconnect.
Many churches have doubled down on inclusivity to the point where they've started rejecting anything traditionally masculine.
It's like they've embraced the cultural narrative that masculinity itself is the problem rather than recognizing that men are part of the solution.
And that's exactly what it is.
And so anyone who disagrees with what I just said is probably in the same camp as the people who are attacking you.
They view masculinity itself as the problem.
So they want this complementarian ideal of, you know, the men are there, but they're not really like you, the shadow elders was such a great way to phrase it.
I've never heard it put that way, but it's the church effeminate.
That's what it's become.
And so what used to be, I mean, you know, you go back to traditional hymns.
You go back to the Gregorian chants, if you want to go that far back.
But even a century ago, when there was still depth to the church, there was depth to the doctrine.
And it's been traded out for this vapid smoke machine, kind of feel-good, throw your hands up in the air.
And oh, Jesus, forgive me.
I mean, you did something terrible Saturday night, but so long as you're there Sunday morning, everything's all good and nothing really matters.
As long as you go Sunday, you can do whatever you want throughout the week.
It's this feel-good message of watered down Christianity.
And it is inherently more detrimental than many of the things that we've seen.
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And on the topic of criminal slander, people have lost the plot.
The Proverbs, we talked about it already.
Six things the Lord hates, seven are an abomination.
It's incredible.
He actually lists the same one twice, if not three times, framed a little bit differently.
A false witness that breathes out lies, a lying tongue.
Those are two things that he hates.
And the third one would be he who stirs up mischief among the brothers.
There's lots of people me and you have disagreements with and don't like, but God is my witness.
I am not out there calling them criminal names that they are not verifiably guilty of.
Like, this just came out for Ross Story just released this right now.
Far-right pastor Shock's public's with statement, women shouldn't speak in public.
A Christian nationalist pastor launched into a tirade about how women are betraying the national order of God by being engaged in public life altogether, according to right-wing watch.
Pastor Joel Webbin was speaking on the rift, a far-right splinter network.
If you could find it over there, they said, I'm a racist, anti-Semitic, and deeply misogynistic right-wing host and commentator who was once fired from the blades for allegedly drunkenly groping a female colleague.
Webbing speaking with Schaefer during an interview in Florida.
I like LT. They definitely opt my car.
That's weird that they wouldn't mention the state.
That is weird.
I've never seen that in New York on Fox in New York.
I always tell people, and I think this is a helpful distinction.
I say, listen, people say you're a misogynist.
I'm like, I have a wife and four daughters.
I will give my life for women.
I love the women in my life, and I love the women in my church.
My mom is a member of my church.
She's incredible.
My sister is a member of my church.
She's incredible.
So I love women.
I am not a misogynist.
A misogynist is someone who hates women.
I am, however, and I make no apology for it.
I am, of course, a sexist.
So I'm not a misogynist.
I don't hate women, but I am a sexist, meaning that I absolutely believe that men and women are different and that women should not behave as men.
And I believe that women, even in the public square, seeking to influence and to lead and to direct and to pull and to prod is an inherently masculine trait.
It's a masculine directive, and I don't believe that it's fitting for women to do.
Well, look, and that's completely fine, but like, I don't, but see, then you're saying that's true, but I'm saying when, but people like, I've noticed there's a correlation between IQ and sarcasm, right?
So like people like, like that Wasson watches guy's like, you literally said you ate women.
It's like, okay, dude.
So yes, that is 100% true.
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However, yeah, you just got to stop saying that part Elijah.
And I think part, they got to remember what you do, right?
So you're not a pastor.
I am.
Right.
So I have to abide by certain standards.
And if they want to attack me, fine, I can take it.
But it's like to bring you into it and to hold you to those standards.
You're in the business of news and entertainment, news and entertainment.
Now, think about the way entertainment and culture shapes society over time.
Did we not just finish like 40, 50 years of every single TV show?
Everyone loves Raymond.
It's a smoking hot, intelligent, competent wife and an out-of-shape, stupid husband.
The Simpsons, family guy, like married with kids.
Married with kids.
Every single thing that we've had in entertainment, in the whole industry of our culture for 40 years has disparaged men saying they're stupid.
Okay.
Now, if I get in the pulpit and I say all women are absolutely stupid as a pastor, then call me out.
There's a problem with that.
But if an entertainment, an entertainer with a media company that does news and entertainment on the right wing, Elijah Schaefer, makes some jokes towards women when we've had 40 years of nothing but jokes towards men at their expense, worshiping women.
Women are incredible.
Women are awesome.
Women are this.
Like, I mean, how many, have you talked to a boomer in the last 15 minutes?
Every single statement is like, well, the old, you know, ball and chain, you know, she wears the pants.
She makes the decisions.
My better half, right?
Like, you can't even talk to an American over the age of 40 without for five seconds without them putting down men and worshiping women as though they're a whole other species that descended from the stars, like Prometheus, you know, like the superior race.
And reminding you, I remember Joel was like, Henry, this new OnlyFans project you started selling pictures of your battle for $2.99 is not a good idea.
And Henny, of course, thought he's like, what?
So $4.99?
And Joel's like, no, not at all.
Not at all.
Don't be doing any of that.
And so when you say something like that, people don't even get the joke.
It's like, yeah, it's funny.
It's called humor because unfortunately people really do that called dark humor where you're kind of laughing at the fact that it's sad that people really do disappear from podcasts to start OnlyFans.
And also, like, people understand about me and the hatred of women.
I'm also not lying there too.
Henny really did go to start that, and Joel really did try to stop him.
Just like black kids who are 17 today, it's like, I just didn't know any better.
You know what I mean?
No, but the jokes aside, it's like people, yeah, people will accuse, you know, that's what the kind of thing is too with Trump, though, but they do it with Trump too.
One of the main reasons why I left the church assembly, because what I noticed is, and this is not church bashing, because maybe I have a little bit of Stockholm syndrome here.
What it is, is like I'm a man and I need real help in community.
And I was finding better community with men outside the church.
I could go to like non-Christian men, tell them what I was struggling with, get help from them.
And people think that non-Christian men are all like degenerates and stuff.
There's a ton of men who are well-disciplined and don't believe in being immoral.
They don't drink and they don't smoke.
And I mean, you can go to like an AA meeting or an NA meeting.
A bunch of people, you know, they believe in a higher power, but they're not Christian, right?
Or like, you know, there's people out there that can help you that are not that, you know, they believe in a higher power.
And there's plenty of Christians who are not disciplined, right?
Who are not, who are not, who are not living a disciplined life.
No, but what I noticed was that there's what we saw on the internet in the last 48 hours is this like gossip train where it comes like the, hey, brother, we got to pray for brother Joel, brother.
Man, it just came to my attention that he's been looking.
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He's been looking at a transgender double-blacked pornography with Candice Horbach or something.
Can we talk about husbands who tell their wives things?
Like, a brother comes to them in confidence.
This is the worst thing I've seen in the church.
Men, stop being a bitch and talking to your wife like she's your best friend.
Like, it's like, yes, she might be your best friend, but it's like if a brother comes to you in confidence and tells you something, like, hey, I'm struggling with this.
She does not, if somebody comes to you in a pastoral setting and is confessing sin, it is, I think it's a breach of confidence and it is immoral to share that with your wife.
That's one, it's actually not loving towards your wife to burden her as a man, to burden her with your job and your responsibilities.
But then secondly, it's also, I think, it's a breach of your congregation and their trust.
She's not their pastor and she does not need to know everything.
But what you were saying, Elijah, is so true in the sense that I've always noticed that gossip for Christians is always guised as prayer requests.
No.
Hey, brother, I just need you to be praying for so-and-so because boom, like wall of text with every single thing.
It's like, oh, you really want prayer or are you trying to build a legal case?
Because it looks like you actually want the guy to go to jail.
Right.
It doesn't look like you're actually concerned.
It looks like you just, you're trying to ruin his life.
And like I mentioned, I got that quote from the whatever podcast from what a girl said and it just stuck with me.
Like, yeah, it's kind of what they've turned themselves into.
By the way, even this raw story, it is very raw because they intentionally also put ellipses and cut out where I clarified what I meant when I said holes.
And they all cut it out.
And then if you want to send him in, like, I really think it's unbecoming.
I would consider cutting that part out of your show, thinking about not doing that in the future.
If you ever want to talk, I'm here.
I'm here.
I'd love to help, you know, to grow in learning about this stuff, which none of that's weird to me.
It's like, thank you.
But you know what's funny?
It's like, it's just like they do this, like, oh, man, I'm so concerned for this guy, Joel, that he would be on this terrible degenerate show.
And that it's just look at everybody, look at these people.
Look at what, look at look at this.
And they're like take the adulterous woman and throw her in the street.
And they're like, Look at everybody.
And Joel, should we not stone Elijah Schaefer?
Is it not that say in the book of law that we shall stone him?
What say you?
And it's like, how do you not see that you're not King David and you're not Solomon?
You're a Pharisee.
How do you like all the Christians?
I feel like in the era, I think they're like the main character.
Like, dude, I'm like a Paul.
And it's like, bro, you're still Paul when he was Saul.
You know, like, you haven't had the transfiguration yet.
It has not occurred.
And I, and it's not back to them because I'm not better than them.
I think that's what I left.
And that's, I haven't seen that since I left the church.
And I saw it, I saw it last 40 hours, and it's pretty, it's pretty crazy to witness again.
You saw it, and I'm sorry you had to experience that.
But what you're describing, all of life, all of politics is the friend-enemy distinction.
And people lose their minds when you say that.
Oh, that's Carl Schmidt.
And Carl Schmidt was, you know, friendly to the Nazis and this, that, and the other.
Okay.
Yeah, but it's true.
And the guys who hate the concept of a friend-enemy distinction with identity politics, all politics is identity politics.
The guys who say that this is terrible, this is fascist, you know, blah, blah, blah.
These guys are the most, in terms of just raw instinct, they are the most committed practicers of the friend-enemy distinction you will ever find.
Because all day over the last 48 hours, I saw a guy saying, Well, here's one of your other, you know, another reform minister who has this guy that he's partnered with and gone in his shows and he's done it for decades, actually.
And this guy has actually been caught and proven to have these, you know, sexual abuse cases and blah, Plus, he holds these heretical views and you have not denounced him.
You haven't done this.
And it's like, so then, so then what I don't understand.
What's the distinguishing factor?
Why Elijah?
Why Joel?
And the honest answer, and I wish people could just be honest and just say, why Joel?
Because I hate him.
Because he's my enemy.
Yeah.
It's not, there's not actually a universal principle here.
And then I was like, it's just a friend-enemy distinction.
And for these guys, because I have attacked feminism, I have attacked Zionism, I have attacked all these different things, ultimately, all kind of culminating in modern liberalism and saying that modern liberalism is at direct odds with historic Christianity.
The two cannot coexist.
One has to go.
So I am absolutely, I won't hide this at all.
One of my chief missions is to see in my lifetime liberalism completely destroyed.
Every ounce of it, every single ounce of it.
And they know that.
I've said that.
And so because of that, because their religion is not Christianity, they call it Christianity, but their religion is liberalism.
It is Judeo-Christianity.
And because that is their highest allegiance, and they know I've made it my mission to smash that idol, to knock over that idol, then I'm public enemy number one.
So it's not like, oh, well, Joel's doing this uniquely, you know, edgy, immoral thing, or he's keeping company with this guy.
I'm not going to name him, but there are guys, reformed pastors right now who are keeping some very curious company.
Curious is the charitable way to say it.
And everybody who's reformed, who's listening right now, knows exactly who I'm talking about.
And that guy is calling me out.
Meanwhile, he's not disassociating.
He's not disowning.
And the people who are mad at me aren't saying a word about him.
But it's also because we don't even live in the same state.
Like, it's like, imagine, like, we're, I would consider as colleagues in terms of like, imagine if I went to every Christian that's reformed and judged them by the colleagues at their work.
It's like, you know what I mean?
It's like, imagine it's like, oh, dude, Stacy's, you know, Stacy dresses like a slotted because she shows her cleavage.
You're not into modesty.
And it's like, dude, and next time you go into work, tell her she's an unrepentant whore and stone her.
It's like, well, no, you're at work and maybe don't, you know?
No, but it's like, but it's like, it's like, hey, that's what people don't understand as like a colleague.
Even with people telling me like, you know, this or that, it's like, hey, this is a job and we are colleagues and there is a level of seniority and order and stuff.
This is also not church.
We're not congregants together.
We are, people can don't get semantical on me.
I'm like, oh, this is everything's church.
But I'm at, it's like, we are the body of Christ, but also this is work.
So work is secular.
And, you know, if you go on Joel's podcast, you know, for his church, it's a Christian podcast.
It's a reformed podcast.
And if you ever see me on a show like that, you'll notice a huge difference in the way I carry myself, speak, and understand it.
Because I also tune in when I'm on another podcast.
I might light up a cigar, though, because I do love those.
But we're going to get a little bit of a picture.
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I was going to say, Phariseaicle is a perfect description because Jesus' description of them again and again, they practice their righteousness, quote unquote, to be seen of others.
So instead of the private DM, instead of, hey, I'm going to personally reach out.
I'll risk maybe some fallout.
I will publicly castigate.
And what does that do?
Well, it doesn't do anything, but I look like a good person.
And again and again, Jesus said, beware.
Don't do that in front of men.
Practice your righteousness.
I'm so good.
Go to your brother privately.
Hey, maybe take that down.
So we literally have a biblical category of, again and again, people that practice their righteousness before men, but he's like, this is not righteousness at all.
Did you see there was an interaction with one of the pastors that I was joking because he's like, he said something to me about how like, yeah, we're like horrible.
And then I was like, hey, man, like, basically, you are, you said to him, I was like, hey, I don't know you even know who you are.
And you're missing the point.
Like, I know who Joel is.
And Joel's, like, I don't think anyone in my audience, unless they already are Reformed, knows anybody that's Reformed because it's a very small world.
I think, I don't know if I'd go into all of the denominations, but at least our mini announcement versus probably nervous to even do the Protestant one now after the last 40 years.
You're probably like, I'll do the Catholic one and the EO one.
If you are looking for a cheap ring for a woman, it's always cheaper to custom make your ring at a jewelry exchange than it is to buy them already made.
I don't know why, but it is.
So, if you buy the diamond and the band separately, you have them formed and installed.
There was a ring that my wife wanted.
It was $10,000.
And when we got married, I was making only a few thousand dollars a month.
So, you think about that, I didn't have that kind of money.
I went to the jewelry exchange in Tustin.
And while I would imagine it would probably be like 30 or 40% more now because of just inflation, back in like 2018 or whatever, it was like $2,100, this exact same ring I had made there.
So it was like 80% less.
I'm not joking.
It looks exactly the same.
And yeah, of course, you have brand name and whatever.
No, I've been holding off on the ad reads recently because we're going to be changing some format stuff on the show next week.
And I'm just trying to, I've been doing a lot of thinking while we're on the show on how we're going to change some formatting stuff.
I put locals in the chat on Rummel stuff.
We're going to be going to locals to do the next segment, which is unfortunately not what you're going to be on, sir, but that's what's going to work because of the timing of the matter.
Before we jump over to locals, make sure that you follow us at ElijahSchaefer.locals.com.
This is where we have our community.
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The overtime segment, but tonight it's going to be free.
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Make sure you do so because my M3 got stolen.
And I sound like one of those guys.
It's like, my Louis Vuitton, come back, got stolen.
Someone made a joke.
Make it, go fund me for the M3.
No, but I am out $104,000 cash from this ordeal, from what was stolen inside the residuals and what I had to, you know.
Yeah, I'd really appreciate if you just follow us on X at right response M as in ministry.
So at right response M and then YouTube is great.
We've got a little over 100,000 subscribers on YouTube and people really benefit from the content there.
So you can just search right response ministries on YouTube.
But X, you guys know how the platform is, it's a little more interactive.
And that's usually the place, like on YouTube, people go there and they'll just listen to the content.
That's great.
But X tends to be the spot where I am just getting slaughtered by all my detractors.
So if you want to come out on X and throw me a bone and maybe help defend me as 500 Christians are all coming after me at the same time, I would be very grateful.
