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July 21, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Did the Feds TAKE OUT MLK? MASSIVE File Drop Reveals SHOCKING Info | The Rift | Guest: Pinesap

Although we still may not have the Epstein files - the MLK files were released today, a whopping 320,000 pages of supposedly never-before-seen info regarding the murder of one of America’s preeminent civil rights leaders. Like him or not, the feds involvement in his murder concerns dissidents left and right-wing alike - and prove even more suspicious behavior on the part of the intelligence agencies over the past 100 years in this country. Also, the Nelk Boys had an interview with Netanyahu today - and surprisingly, had another interview with 2 of the more outspoken critics of Israel right after - who were they, and how did those interviews go? Pinesap and Anna Perez join us for another show on The Rift on RIFT TV! __ ➤ SUPPORT CONNOR: https://www.givesendgo.com/rift-connor-emergency-fund __ ⇩ SHOW SPONSORS⇩ ➤ NUTRONICS LABS: USE PROMOCODE: ELIJAH | https://www.tboostnow.com/ ➤ HYPERBIT: $HYPE in Canada and $HYPAF in the USA | https://www.hyperbit.ca/ | https://investors.hyperbit.ca/ ➤ REDPILLTHREADS: https://redpillthreads.com | PROMOCODE: RIFT for 10% OFF ➤ VAN MAN COMPANY: Vanman Co. is the go-to source for all-natural, non-toxic and chemical free products — from creams to deodorant, soap and mouthwash, Vanman Co. is one of the only companies to deliver on quality without cutting corners when it comes to your health and well-being. Go to https://www.vanman.shop/elijah and use promocode ELIJAH for 10% OFF! __ ⇩ELIJAH’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ TELEGRAM https://t.me/SlightlyOffensive ➤ GAB: https://gab.com/elijahschaffer ⇩ANNA’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://x.com/Wrongthinkanna_ ⇩PINESAP’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://x.com/FeelsGuy2003 ➤ GIVESENDGO: https://www.givesendgo.com/rift-connor-emergency-fund ⇩MICHAEL’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/Snowflake_News ➤ INSTA: https://www.instagram.com/snowflake_news/ ➤ RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/user/SnowflakeNews __ ➤BOOKINGS + BUSINESS INQUIRIES: mike.mendoza@rifttv.com __ Thanks to Hyper Bit Technologies for sponsoring today's video. You can get their latest presentation here on their website: https://investors.hyperbit.ca/ Stock Ticker: OTC: HYPAF CSE: HYPE FWB: N7S0 DISCLAIMER: This video was conducted on behalf of Hyper Bit Technologies, and was funded by CAPITALIZ ON IT. I have been compensated for this video. I only express my opinion based on my experience. Your experience may be different. These videos are for educational and inspirational purposes only. Investing of any kind involves risk. While it is possible to minimize risk, your investments are solely your responsibility. It is imperative that you conduct your own research. There is no guarantee of gains or losses on investments. Please do your own due diligence. I am not a financial advisor, and this is not a financial advice channel. All information is provided strictly for educational purposes. It does not take into account anybody's specific circumstances or situation. If you are making investment or other financial management decisions and require advice, please consult a suitably qualified licensed professional. The securities of Hyper Bit Technologies are speculative, and the company has not yet achieved consistent positive cash flow from operations. As a growth-stage company, it anticipates negative cash flow for the foreseeable future as it focuses on development and commercialization efforts. Parties viewing this video should thoroughly review the company’s public disclosure and documents available on sedarplus.ca. See full disclaimer here: https://capitalizonit.com/hype

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anna perez
08:40
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connor pinesap estelle
21:40
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elijah schaffer
01:08:51
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michael hennessey
08:03
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michael mendoza
02:46
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mark levin
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elijah schaffer
Well, the Trump administration just released thousands of FBI records of Martin Luther King Jr. despite his family's opposition.
And the question is, is Israel not on any of the pages?
That's actually the question, right?
How many are they not on?
No, we actually don't know all the details, but we're going to find out about that.
Plus, some of Epstein's victims or alleged victims, I should say, because apparently nobody was victimized by him.
People are in jail for it, but you have to have perpetrators to abuse you to be the abuse victim.
And nobody abused these girls, but they're still important.
And they say that Trump actually was in on this.
Well, Trump is now doubling down, saying that we all need to listen to Mark Levin because he says this is all a Democrat hoax.
Just a reminder, Democrats are the real racists.
That kind of truth you'll hear on the show.
Plus, Pam Bondi is back at the insanity.
And on top of that, we find out a little throwback as Hunter Biden has another interview and has said, if you want to deport illegal aliens, who is washing the dishes?
Which is literally the same thing as we heard.
Who's going to clean your toilet, Mr. Trump?
We have such insane things.
Plus, additionally, we're going to be going over the Jubilee episode with Hassan Mehdi.
I think his name is Mehdi Hassan.
I don't really know.
All those names kind of sound the same.
Like Ala Akbar.
It's a don't know.
We have one of the Jubilee contestants, we'll call them, or attendees who's here.
And Netanyahu was on the Nelk Boys.
We can't get away from Israel.
We're not sure every episode.
It just keeps happening.
My name's Elijah Schaefer.
It is approximately 7.08 p.m. Eastern Time.
Whatever you're doing right now, grab a drink, something to sip on, and let's start the show.
Because it actually has hollow points in it.
Yeah, let me just point that somewhere not away.
Anyways, we are cocking the guns today, and we are feeling like we are going out blazing because some insane revelations happened that we'll be talking about.
One of our guests today had some terrible news, handed down to him, and we're going to try to do something about it.
So if you're one of those people who cares about putting your money where your mouth is tonight, we're going to try to help with that.
And also, a quick announcement.
My ex-account, Elijah Schaefer, was hacked.
We did not start a Rift coin.
So I'm going to remind you guys, please do not buy that.
And if anything that that account tells you right now, it is locked down.
If there's any scams, I'm never going to try to DM you to sell you stuff.
You will never see that.
Plus, I will never create a meme coin.
I don't believe in that stuff.
I've lost a lot of money personally on meme coins.
So I just want to remind you, please do not buy that.
Anyway, joining me in the studio back here is our contributor and producer at RiftTV.com.
Tell us who you are while you're here.
anna perez
Hi, I'm Anna Perez, and I'm here as a Rift contributor.
And we're going to be talking a lot about Elaine Maxwell.
So I'm here to talk about that.
Let's see, the FBI, the CIA, Martin Luther King Jr., you name it, Pambongi.
So lots of stuff to talk about today and cancel culture.
So that should be interesting.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, of course.
And on my left, your co-host and Rift TV producer.
Tell us who you are while you're here.
michael hennessey
Hi, Michael Hennessy of Snowflake underscore news.
Excited to be here.
It seems like the administration will release anything except the actual Epstein files.
They prefer us to be more worried about Russia hoaxes and everything else.
But I know we have a lot of great stories, a lot of things to dive into.
So I'm excited.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and joining me is the man, the myth, the legend.
Some of you know him as Pinestap.
I'm more new to his content, but apparently not everyone likes it as much as some of you did.
You have a real name, though.
You said your name is Connor, yes.
That's actually true.
Welcome to the show.
connor pinesap estelle
Yes, sir.
It's great to be here.
My name's Connor.
I'm known as Pinestap Online, and I am a Catholic apologist.
So that's mainly what I do, but I cover politics, current events, kind of happenings in the culture and what have you.
And I kind of try to really broach all those subjects, I would say.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And I think what was kind of crazy is I know you've been getting attacked.
You were just on the Jubilee episode with Kai Schwemmer.
I think he was on there.
You had Irm Az, you call it.
I didn't see him go up Sarah Stock.
And you've been getting a lot of heat because, well, let's just say you did a very bad thing.
You went and you spoke your mind, which you said you're a staunchly right-wing person.
And apparently it's not illegal to be that and it shouldn't be.
But in the real world, it actually comes with consequences holding right-wing views.
And I think you're facing some of them, aren't you?
connor pinesap estelle
Absolutely.
Unfortunately, in my confrontation with Medi, he was trying to press me and he asked, well, are you fascist?
Now, I am a Catholic at the end of the day.
That's my faith.
That's my politics.
That's what's that what is sort of undergirds my entire ideology, I would say.
And I knew that when he was using that term, he wasn't asking me, do I read Mussolini?
Do I read Giovanni Gentile or anything like that?
He was asking me, do you believe what the church teaches?
And do you want to see that applied in society?
To which I responded, yes, I am.
I'm not ashamed of that because those slanderous words, Nazi, fascist, any of those terms, they don't really mean anything.
There's no content to them.
They're just kind of used as buzzwords to cancel whoever has real convictions and kind of real right-wing, moral, conservative convictions that they want to implement in society.
And so frankly, I did not want to go down a route of acquiescing to him, apologizing, trying to run in circles.
I said, you know what?
If you're going to call me that, so be it.
But I know at the end of the day that my politics are centered on Jesus Christ and that's all I care about.
anna perez
Yeah.
And it's kind of interesting because you brought up how like, I know what he was really asking as opposed to what he said he was asking, which is, are you fascist?
Which is, you know, has more to do with your political ideology or, you know, what have you.
And as you pointed out, it's all actually about your faith.
And the fact that you didn't, you didn't acquiesce, he was shocked.
And I think that's the interesting part.
Like, they don't actually expect you to just say, yeah, so, yes, and.
connor pinesap estelle
Yes, and, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
anna perez
That's all you have to answer.
elijah schaffer
Well, I want to play the clip, actually.
So before we jump into our top stories for today, I just want to give a little background here.
So he was on this interaction.
And I'm going to tell you guys something.
This next interaction seems harmless, but it's okay to be right wing.
But it doesn't come without a cost.
And, you know, a lot of people, it's a LARP.
And it's so much fun to do a lot of things behind an anonymous picture.
The question is, is when you're actually pushed to be asked, right?
When you're actually asked, do you really hold these values?
Where when you're put in a position to really test yourself, are you going to crumble or are you going to double down?
And that's the kind of litmus test of whether you believe what you do.
This is our guest tonight on.
I mean, to someone like me, I'm a little bit jaded.
I hear that and I'm like, there's nothing illegal about that.
You're just saying what you believe.
By the way, fascism, you're not saying you support Nazism.
You're not saying you support, you know, any fascist leaders.
You're just saying you believe that, you know, a stringent government with centralized power and a strong police force that keeps rule in order is something that you believe in, which to me is not weird.
It's not strange and people believe that.
In fact, there are still technically fascist regimes that exist in the world today, some of which we've already collapsed in the last 20 years, especially in the Arab world.
But when I saw that man, I was confused.
I was like, I think that guy's, is he trying to get fired?
Because I know today that almost every job, every sector has been inundated with these DEI bullshit.
And they allow you to believe anything you want, except for things that are stringently right-wing, Christian, or heterosexual, you know, you know, orthodoxy.
And you are in some serious trouble in your personal life over this.
Am I right?
connor pinesap estelle
That is correct.
elijah schaffer
What happened?
connor pinesap estelle
Well, unfortunately, I lost my job as a result.
And no one really is to blame for that.
It's just the culture that kind of exists currently surrounding the manner in which you're canceled for voicing exactly what you said, any heterosexual, Christian sort of moral belief that goes beyond sort of the secularism and the relativism that we're so used to in our time.
And so that's what I set out to do with Medi.
You know, he asked me, oh, well, you know, do you condemn the Holocaust?
It's like, well, of course I condemn persecution of anyone, Jews included.
I'm a Catholic.
I don't believe in persecuting anyone, but I'm not going to play your game of let's reference the Holocaust because that's a loaded question.
What you're trying to do there is you're trying to insinuate that that worldview is going to lead to genocide, chaos, and destruction.
But as you said, we see so many regimes where that's exactly the opposite.
I mean, look at what's going on in El Salvador right now.
The streets are clean.
It is a paradise in Central America and really South America for that perspective.
They went from being one of the most dangerous countries with MS-13 to one of the safest and cleanest countries, all because they had, you know, a centralized police force, government willing to enforce the law and willing to actually lay down a moral structure to their society, not being scared of what journalists or other fogies like to say.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I was just actually down there in El Salvador hanging out with some people in the government.
We're going back down actually to go hang out with them as well.
And I was pleasantly surprised.
It looks third world and it is a third world country.
You're safer in El Salvador than you are in Miami.
You know what I mean?
Despite Brickle having, you know, tens of millions of dollars, you know, for single apartments, it's remarkable that like you would be in an area.
And this is what they even said.
They go, the people are so traumatized from the previous regime, the socialist regime that was in power, that they don't even realize how safe they are.
Like they're not willing to take down their fences and their barbed war.
So it's got a very South Africanized third world, you know, look, you know, where everything's really fortified.
But what's crazy is that you can be somewhere like I went somewhere that previously I probably would have mugged and killed, quite frankly.
Somebody said he knew where a liquor store was.
It was somebody's house and they were like roasting a pig and they didn't know what was going on.
And they were like pulling like Cokes and stuff out of like the refrigerator in the backyard like dirt.
And I was like, oh, this isn't a store.
This is your friend's house.
And I'm going to get killed.
But of course I was safe.
And I bring this up.
He was telling me, he's like, you know what's crazy?
They even changed their drinking and driving laws to 0.0.
You can't even, if you have a drink, you go automatically to jail if you're driving.
And they've already stopped any, they like reduced the traffic fatalities by like half or something like that.
And I was like, I was just shocked.
And so when I saw that, I went down there to study what fascism can do.
And I went, you know, it is crazy that to this day, Democrats are protesting that.
I don't know if you've seen that.
There's big protests against the prison out there.
But, you know, saying that you want law and order, you could be saying you want El Salvadorian fascism.
And they're an ally of the United States.
So it's a very strange thing.
They assumed that you meant you supported Nazism.
And I'm sure they terminated you, but you got fired from a legitimate job that provided well because of your political views that are not illegal.
How does that make you feel?
connor pinesap estelle
Frankly, kind of destroyed.
I put a lot of pride in the work that I do.
I try to treat everyone with a level of respect and love and decency.
And, you know, many might say, oh, you're, you say that, but you're actually this evil guy behind closed doors.
No, I'm a guy who is looking at our society being torn apart by just kind of the lack of rule of law, the lack of meaning in people's lives.
Frankly, let's just get a little heart of it, the lack of God in people's lives.
And I say enough, enough at this point.
I mean, why is it that we have to live in a society where people are killing themselves?
They're addicted to drugs.
They are looking for all manner of filling the vacuum and the void that is going on in their lives.
And I'm the evil one for calling that out.
I just simply don't understand that.
I find it to be so abhorrent that anyone who is willing to care enough about other people and willing to lay down their life so that other people may have a better life is canceled from that.
And I don't even consider myself a part of that, but rather so many martyrs kind of in our whole movement, in the conservative movement, in Catholic Church for that matter, who have labored in the modern age to make life better, and yet they get canceled and they get canned everywhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And, you know, it's really unfortunate.
Oh, man.
I just told you.
I'm like, man, I remember I got fired from a really good job too.
They also had TV in their name.
It's like crazy how you get those jobs again, you know?
But the thing is, is that, you know, it was probably good.
I like, I look back at it and I'm going, you know, at the time I was devastated because less about getting fired itself, but what the repercussions of like, at least in my situation, people trying to keep me from getting other work, you know, like people telling people you can't come on my show.
If you work for him or if you, you know, you know, help him out and get him advertised this, we will work with you.
And the back end of the trying to destroy my life, you know, even one of the texts that one of the girls said, you know, that maybe if we cause enough stress, you know, his, his wife will have a miscarriage, you know, trying to kill my like unborn baby, you know?
So, I mean, these people are very evil.
And that they still work in media, by the way, and they're conservative, you know, e-girls, you know, out there.
But anyway, very, very evil.
I don't make this about me.
I'm saying it was a shitty time.
And there's nothing about it that I'm going to tell you, like, hey, this is, you know, this is not going to be a shitty time.
It is horrible, but I don't want to leave you with that hope in saying, you know, sometimes, that's why I want to put this out here.
And I'm hoping this gets it on the internet too.
You know, sometimes you end up leaving something or God ends up removing something from your life, even though it's your own stupidity.
In my case, I'm just like, I'm kind of stupid, you know?
And so even if it's your own stupidity that gets you fired, or even just a lack of wisdom or anything, was it the wisest thing to say?
I don't know.
But I will say that God does open doors that the enemy can't close, you know?
And to anybody out there, you know, I don't know if you have an, you can always just email mike.mendoza at rifttv.com.
If you want to reach out and talk to Pine or you can hit him up on his socials, they're linked down below.
But if you're more of like a business guy or whatever, and you want to, you know, see what he does and his opportunities, see what his CV is, let us know.
But also, I know that we told you we wanted you to make a give, send, go, right?
That's what we wanted to do.
We wanted to create a fundraiser to try to raise some money because you got fired for your very legal political beliefs.
And the fact is, is that they tried to ruin your lives because you are right wing and they hate everything that's of order of God and of a sound mind.
And so we have the link to the give, send, go.
We're like, have a stated goal.
It may go up.
We'll see what happens, what it is, but every dollar counts.
So he lost his job.
And, you know, like always, they're always trying to prevent you.
They will try to prevent you, man, from getting work again.
And so we want to be there to come as a community.
We've raised money before.
And so if you can, I don't know if we have the link or if it's in there.
Is it in there?
michael mendoza
Yep, it's in the info.
Oh, I'm like really loud.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
michael mendoza
Is it in there?
Yeah, it's in the info.
It's in the info right now.
And also, I think that we have the URL.
One second, let me pull it up.
It is givesendgo.com slash rift-connor dash emergency dash fund, but it's also in the description.
So check it out.
We just started off at 15,000.
So I've seen B for living expenses stuff while he's in this transitionary period from this devastating event.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and we'll get this on the internet.
Plus, when I get my ex back, it'll probably help with this clip a lot too.
Can you make sure to ping Peter again too and get that in there?
All right, so yeah, man.
So I hope we're able to raise some money, even if it's a couple hundred bucks, whatever.
connor pinesap estelle
That's a long way.
elijah schaffer
It'll go a long way.
I'll make sure to give to it as well.
So you'll see that.
And not doing that for anything other than the fact I want people to know.
I'm also going to give.
So, you know, I'm not just like, hey, let's all just like you guys give money.
You know, I will also give to the fund as well.
And so that will be there.
And plus, Mike has decided he said he's going to give all of his savings to the fund.
I'm just saying, no, you know what?
You don't have to give all your savings.
$5, $10, $20.
Please help him.
We'll get back to the Jubilee stuff, but I wanted to revisit the fundraiser too.
I want to get into the top stories for today.
You are a commentator.
I think it's interesting.
All of you guys are like these theocratic Catholics.
I want to talk a little about that later too, because I feel like it's a lot of young people believe in that.
And I don't know if it's a realistic, you know, decision or if it's just like more like it's become like a group think thing and everyone seems to like because a lot of these a lot of these young zealous Catholics who really want love Catholicism, but they don't have like a lot of knowledge.
They say zeal without knowledge, right?
The Bible warns about that.
And you don't seem unknowledgeable.
So I want to tap you later on, but let's go ahead and start with the news today.
We got new MLK files released.
And you know, when we're talking about stories like this, it is a slow news day because no one wants to talk about this, but it's still interesting.
I'm going to be honest with you guys.
Before we jump into that, remember, we got a $5 super chat from Bloodshot567 that said, hello, crew.
I just want to say hi to our favorite Southern Aryan queen, Anna.
So thank you very much for that.
We appreciate it.
anyway, let's get into our top stories for today.
All right.
We do have other people on the show today too.
I just wanted to start out with that.
Our top story comes from AP News.
It turns out that the Trump administration releases FBI records on MLK Jr. despite his family's opposition.
And the reason why we're bringing this up is we still like, we keep doing these file drops and like we still don't know anything.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
elijah schaffer
It seems like we like things.
michael hennessey
We seem to be with JFK when JFK came out.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael hennessey
We did see that they were trying to hide any kind of relationship Israel had with those files, but I mean, it really didn't give us the full story.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And I think one of the craziest things is that when we read this, listen, this is just like one of these weird things.
It's kind of a weird format.
Let me see if I can move this here in the center.
Check this out.
All right.
AP News reports that the Trump administration on Monday released records of the FBI surveillance of Martin Luther King Jr. despite opposition from the Slain Noble laureate's family and the civil rights group that he led until his 1968 assassination.
When MLK Jr. wasn't, you know, working with the CIA and other communist groups to disrupt the American hegemony, I added that.
The digital document dump includes more than 240,000 pages of records that had been under a court and post seal since 1977.
When the FBI first gathered the records and turned them over to the National Archives and Record Administration, and in a lengthy statement released Monday, King's two living children, Martin III, 67, and Bernice 62, said their father's assassination has been a captivating public curiosity for decades.
But the pair emphasized, we've been getting damn rich because we've been getting rich.
So we just don't want you to know.
We just don't want you to know.
Trifling hoe.
No, that's literally what this is.
Well, I'm just translating what they're saying, you know.
These files must be viewed within their full historical context, okay?
The Kings got advanced access to the records and had their own teams reviewing them.
Those efforts continued, even as the government granted public access.
It was not immediately clear Monday whether the documents would shed any new light on the life of the civil rights movement or his murder.
Let's just start by talking about something a bit controversial here.
Dead ass.
Yeah, dead ass.
unidentified
Dead ass.
elijah schaffer
Dead ass.
Hear the smoke alarm.
I uh actually saw, you ever see those AI videos of like uh, we call them Lakeworth people here.
She's like, one of the Lakeworth people is like, I don't know how, but her Nissan Altima's flying.
She like crashes into a plane and like the plane like blows up and she's like, you were in my way, dead ass.
I don't know.
And someone said, now do the AI version.
You know, that's what someone said.
Because it's really how it is, by the way.
That happened to me the other day, but it was a Nissan Centra, so pretty close.
And they almost crashed into me.
So speaking of that, I do want to bring up this question here.
Tulsa Gabbard posted this, and she said, she is a part of the, you know, the head of the DNI, DNI.
She said, that after nearly 60 years of questions surrounding the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, we are releasing these pages.
These talk about the assassination.
Thanks to President Trump's leadership, Executive Order 14176 resulted in three unprecedented interagency efforts to identify blah, blah, blah.
Okay, it doesn't matter.
What matters here is that it's still not the Epstein files.
That's all I was going to say.
And then secondly, can we talk a little bit about the civil rights movement?
Is it okay on YouTube?
I think it's going to be okay.
I think calling that movement the civil rights movement is doing it injustice.
It is a movement that has destroyed Western civility.
It has destroyed, like I said, the hedge of money.
And it is not because it gave these people damn rights to drink on the fountain.
You know what I was going to say?
I was like, you just lost your job because you said a bad word or you believe something they don't like.
But if I want to save my company billions of dollars over a decade by just not allowing certain looking people to use a self-checkout line, I'm a bad person.
You know what I mean?
I'm the bad person because I want to save my company money and I know what the problem is.
I genuinely believe that everybody knows that the civil rights movement was a complete failure, that it was not a movement.
It was a military assault on whiteness.
It was a military assault on the cohesion of our country.
And, you know, it's not about really about blacks.
I mean, it led the feminist movement, which we're not going to fix this country as long as women can vote.
And everybody knows that.
It cannot be fixed.
So I don't know if you guys want to jump in on here, but I just think it's funny that we talk about him as the father of the civil rights movement.
It was good he got assassinated because we didn't need any leader of that movement.
We actually didn't need that movement at all.
You know what I mean?
I mean, like, he's an enemy of the country.
That's my opinion.
MLK is an enemy of civilized society.
And it's not because I have some hatred of black people or I don't like black people having rights.
It's like, I just, I think Rhodesia got it right with the curfew is all I'm saying at 8 p.m. I'll leave it at that.
anna perez
Well, and prior to the civil rights movement, actually, blacks were performing closer to whites than you would think, than a lot of people would.
In fact, it was pretty on par.
And what that tells you is, you know, we're told that the 50s prior to the civil rights movement, black people were so oppressed by the government that there's no way they could have succeeded and they needed all this help.
Well, what does that tell you?
Well, it tells you that actually this attitude that they needed help from the government and obviously the legislation itself is in many ways what harmed them.
So it's kind of interesting to look back in history and see those statistics.
And then additionally, obviously, MLK Jr. had a lot of issues in his personal life.
He wasn't like the best guy ever.
And most people know how that goes, basically.
But I think at large, yeah, it was worse for white people.
It was worse for women.
It was worse for black people.
And people don't really talk about that.
And black people don't really care because they're going to continue to mooch off the government anyway.
So they don't, and they're not thinking, oh, okay, well, maybe actually, if I look at statistics and I look at history and I see how black people were doing prior to the civil rights movement, maybe that's an indicator that actually it's not that I needed this legislation.
It's actually a crutch for them.
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Coming back in, we're talking about the civil rights movement.
We have Pine Sap here, Anna Perez as well, and Snowflake is here.
I think this is a very uncomfortable conversation about the civil rights movement.
If you're just joining the live, I was saying before this, I don't think the civil rights movement was good.
I think it was a psyop, it was an operation to destroy the United States.
You know, Anna was bringing up some interesting points about that as well.
And I kind of want to get your opinion.
I mean, it's like I think the only reason why they care about this is because the civil rights movement is portrayed as something, quite frankly, that it's just not.
connor pinesap estelle
It's very true.
When you look at the civil rights movement, it's all about racial antagonism, it's about pitting races against one another.
And we even see this kind of in the history of the United States.
There's a priest very near and dear to my heart named Father John Lafarge.
And Father John Lafarge actually started an early, for lack of a better term, civil rights movement called the Committee of Interracial Justice.
Now, what was unique about his approach versus, say, Martin Luther King's was he wanted the exact equality of whites and blacks.
He wasn't with the CIA.
He was very anti-communist, in fact.
And he wanted a fully rooted Christian context for understanding the dignity of both white and black people.
And we see sort of like MLK come in and somewhat co-opt that language and somewhat use that language to his advantage, but with this kind of bent to it that still sets black people in this position of either thinking that they're entitled to things that they're really not working for or blaming white people for all their problems.
Whereas Father Lafarge was all about healing.
And I think that's really what it should have been.
It should have been all about healing, overcoming divides, you know, trying to mend bridges.
But instead, I mean, we've got someone who, you know, claimed to be right a pastor, right?
MLK.
He didn't even believe in the resurrection of Christ or the virgin birth.
elijah schaffer
I think I saw that.
That was a, was that a Catholic guy?
That was?
It was, I saw him out there.
Very weird.
connor pinesap estelle
I believe so.
Yeah.
I mean, he, Martin Luther King was kind of notorious for denying a lot of Orthodox Christian beliefs.
I mean, just the most basic beliefs that kind of define you as Christian versus non-Christian, whether you're Protestant, Eastern Orthodox, Catholic.
He denied all those and kind of almost went for, I guess, almost kind of like a Masonic conception of like man's liberty.
Now, that's not to necessarily say, oh, you know, the Masons and tethering all that.
I think that's kind of used as a cope for other things sometimes, but this sort of equality of man was not rooted in Christ.
It was rooted in this like very secular idea.
elijah schaffer
You know why?
No, why?
Because, you know, black people have their own slang.
Everybody thought he was a pastor because they thought he was saying Protestants, but he was talking about prostitutes because that's what he was, that's what he was into.
connor pinesap estelle
That's true.
elijah schaffer
He's like, oh, he's a Protestant pastor.
You're like, no, he's passing her in the train.
She's a prostitute, not a Protestant pastor.
But jokes aside, I mean, he liked his ladies.
He liked his honeys, and he got that money.
And I got to say, he was the first Tupac.
But I mean, they did this after with the civil rights movement.
They had all these gay black guys become rappers and put on this persona of like violence.
And, you know, then the CIA plays crack, you know, after liberating the blacks and they destroyed their communities.
And even now, you know, you see the same issues.
I'm just saying it was like now there's no holds on these things.
And you just walk around, clutch your purse, walk the other side of the street and put cameras everywhere.
And that's like what we, that's what's the civil rights movement made a lot of security companies very wealthy.
It's all I'm trying to say.
connor pinesap estelle
That's true.
michael hennessey
Well, MLK definitely, well, they say he had a huge history of loving the ladies.
That's one thing that I've heard over and over.
Yeah, that's a plus compared to most of the people in administration.
But, you know, them releasing the file.
One thing, anytime they do this with races, a lot of time is to cause division, which Pineshap was kind of touching on, saying that, you know, they want to divide us.
And if you can make more of a class that feels like they're segregated, like a welfare kind of state, then they have more reliance on the government.
And then you can kind of use them more as political tools.
With them going ahead and releasing these files, I personally believe they're only releasing them because they don't want to share Epstein with us and they're trying to take all the heat off.
But even the files that they've given us are not all the files.
Back in 1974, they deleted over 66 of them that were related to this case.
So that we won't be getting anything on that.
And there's also two that they kept out on purpose as well, saying that, you know, they didn't want to pass it on for whatever reason may be.
The CIA didn't want to provide that information.
So once again, what we're getting is just a lot of smoke and mirrors where they want us to believe that they are coming to help us, that they are here to expose the truth and be the, you know, the party of transparency.
But that's actually far from the truth from what they've been doing.
elijah schaffer
I'm going to bring that up real fast, kind of getting into some of this.
Mario Nafal brought this up that the MLK files actually show that the FBI organized its surveillance on King.
This document isn't about what the FBI knew.
It's about how they kept track of it.
Titled Simply King, it's a master index created by the FBI headquarters, listing 58 separate file sections from 1963 through the 1970s.
Each entry includes a section number, a brief label, and a date.
These point to the surveillance logs, memos, routing slips, and internal notes.
Some are Mark reviewed under the JFK Records Acts.
And it's not the story itself.
It's the system behind the story.
And so it's like, look, dude, I don't want, I don't want your pages.
We didn't ask for this.
I don't want this.
Do you want to know something?
Guys, let me give you some freaking good advice here because everybody knows that any guy who's saying he's got a perfect relationship and he knows how to handle women isn't handling women well because they cannot be handled.
And also, it's a daily fight.
It's a daily fight.
It is a battle.
But I can tell you some things that I've learned along the way that are true.
Don't buy expensive shit for women that they don't want.
Okay.
This is very true.
Unless you are with a ghetto black woman that for some reason just will wear bling because it's expensive.
You date a girl with class and you want to get that ass.
Make sure that you actually find out her taste in jewelry and find things because she may not like what you give her and you can waste a lot of money.
And that sucks.
You work hard for your money and you don't want to waste it on shit that she's never going to wear or use.
And she'll say thank you and it won't lead to anything.
If the gift doesn't lead to the best sex of your life, then you probably, she didn't actually like it.
Okay.
So that's all I'm going to say.
But that's what I feel like's happening here.
I feel like a bitch that's constantly being given things I didn't want.
You know what I mean?
I'm getting like cartier gold chains.
And I'm like, I'm a white man.
Please don't.
I don't wear things like this.
And the government's like, oh, you don't like that chain?
It's like, yeah, no, I don't like that chain.
Thank you very much.
anna perez
That's such a good analogy.
elijah schaffer
No, but it's true.
It's like, it's like, it's like, so you want a solitaire from Tiffany's?
unidentified
What the hell?
elijah schaffer
Do I look like I want to wear that?
Like, no, dude, no.
And the government just keeps giving you shit.
And you're like, look, I know this is nice.
And, you know, you spent a lot of money and time and you're really like packaging it well.
But like, I'm not a black woman.
So I didn't want it.
anna perez
And I also think part of it's like a PR campaign for Pam Bondi and Tulsi Gabbard because they're kind of being blamed now for the whole Epstein files fiasco as well.
And especially Pam Bondi.
Like everybody wants her out.
So now she thinks she can rack up some W's from these files that literally nobody asked for, like you were saying.
And I think that's a big part of it.
I think they're just trying to save face for the people within the administration that are literally being called to resign.
elijah schaffer
Wait, was John's, John Wilkes Booth was Jewish?
Why is it in the chat?
I never heard that otherwise.
unidentified
Probably not.
connor pinesap estelle
I might have heard that before, but I couldn't verify it off the top of my head.
elijah schaffer
I mean, look, I want to say this is kind of like, if everybody's a super, then nobody will be.
With the Jewish stuff, guys, like, try to stick to facts, please, because if everybody is Jewish, they literally are, but if everybody is Jewish, it's like literally every time.
michael hennessey
It just takes away from the truth.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it takes away from the truth.
But like when you get up today, like I did, and the first clip on my phone is Ben Shapiro reacting to a clip of Jerry Seinfeld and Howard Stern.
You're like, what is the statistical probability that there are three people from different sectors that are all on one video on my phone that are all from Connecticut?
You know what I mean?
Like that's actually crazy.
I'm like, it's insane, dude.
And I know that's true, but like if we just start making stuff up, I warn people about this.
If you stub your toe and you blame the Jews, there is a way to do it, but you also do lose credibility.
And I saw somebody that was very prominent do that as well to even Matt Walsh, where it's like, oh, well, you work for the Jews.
So this.
And it's like, but they didn't address the statement.
And I think like we do lose a lot of credibility when we just make things about race and when they should be and when they are, then triple down and quadruple down.
But like if your first goal isn't loving people and also God and you're not trying to help people, you're just trying to like, it actually can become an addiction.
And it's like, you just talk about Jews all the time.
And I, and it's hard not to.
You know what I mean?
connor pinesap estelle
It's very true.
elijah schaffer
It's hard not to.
I have a hard time.
connor pinesap estelle
Anger becomes kind of an addiction at some point where you're trying to like constantly point out like, oh, this guy's a Jew, that guy's a Jew, right?
And there reaches a point where it's exactly as you said, Elisha.
Like, if everyone's a super, no one's a super.
On top of that, too, you have people like sharing these infographics that look like 2008 Facebook political memes, but they're like, these are the verses in the Talmud that say X, Y, Z.
And I'm like, well, some of those are true, but like there's other ones that are like very false and stuff like that.
And so it doesn't do any service to us to fall into ironically an actual low IQ anti-Semitism, right?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I think I think it's bad.
Just like people like, well, like quote an old verse in like the Old Testament, they don't understand the old law or anything.
And they're like, well, then God says to kill women who commit adultery.
And you're like, okay, dude.
Yeah, it's like low IQ attack.
Like, dude, you don't, you don't understand.
And they're like, no, no.
And they'll argue with you.
I've had an atheist co-host before and you're like, you literally are an atheist.
You don't know this shit.
Like, you don't know it.
So why are you arguing with me on air?
And we literally had an argument about that, about how to treat women.
And you're like, and then, and then we can fall into that ourselves.
So we can end up.
connor pinesap estelle
Absolutely.
elijah schaffer
We could end up, you know, somebody we don't like.
Obviously, she didn't like Christians.
So then she wanted to like, you know, she wanted to be right.
We can't, we got to be, we got to be correct, right?
That's all we say.
We got to actually be correct factually.
And what I've been seeing online a lot lately is like, Luke Rykowski is Jewish and you can't listen to him or whatever.
And you're like, he's Polish and he's not Jewish.
He's not.
He's on the list.
He's on that list.
Have you seen it?
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
He's not.
unidentified
He's on it.
elijah schaffer
And he has a star of David on his forehead.
And the guy knows what's, he's actually aware of what's going on.
connor pinesap estelle
Right.
elijah schaffer
He's not Jewish.
connor pinesap estelle
Well, and not to mention, too, you touched on this earlier.
There's this idea of we have to manifest love when we speak about this issue, right?
I see many people, they become kind of red-pilled on the JQ.
And rather than using that as a means to say, okay, this is a very real problem, but let's deal with this in the ethical way, which is converting them to Christianity, allowing them to accept the gospel.
They go down these weird rabbit holes, you know, the sort of like siege, like neo-Nazi kind of route.
And that's not rooted in a love of God.
You know, the only way to overcome the Jewish hatred of Christianity is with Christian love.
And it's like that old saying that we were all taught in probably Sunday school or by our grandma, right?
They will know we are Christians by our love.
If we show our love to these people, even when it's very tough, even when it's very difficult, they will know that we're Christian and they'll be converted by it.
And I've had wonderful conversations with people, even from like upstate New York or what have you, come from a Jewish background.
And because they've been shown such love by Christians, they've decided to accept the gospel and completely give up that Jewish revolutionary spirit.
elijah schaffer
Let me ask you this, though.
And that's what I was going to say with some of this stuff.
I want to look at some of these facts here.
Are you able to bring up your screen here on the document to go through some of these on the FBI stuff?
I just want to read a couple.
Like what he's saying about the facts, I want to read some facts here because I don't want to just be like, it's the Jews that killed MLK.
I have no idea.
But apparently.
michael hennessey
I'm just digging through it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but apparently the CIA surveyed MLK's hotel room and dug through his trash.
So we know the CIA was monitoring him.
CIA records in the new documents reveal agents spied on him and Bernard Lee from the hotel room.
You know, what's crazy is that I'm not a really special guy, but the FBI spied on me for a while.
I know they've been at your house a lot recently.
michael hennessey
Yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And so this is not really that hard to believe.
You know what I mean?
Like there was a car that followed me around, and then I got the FOIA request, and it's like in there that like for like six weeks, they stalked me.
And then they put a plan.
They got in the back door from, I've talked about this.
They got in a back door in my phone.
And they also lifted my bank records and everything.
And I don't know.
They're trying to connect me to terrorism because, again, it was an espionage investigation.
But it's like, people are like, why did you go to jail?
It's like, I didn't commit any crimes.
And they tried to find crimes.
And I'm actually really, like, they went into the, they went in through the back door of my, I'll clarify my phone, not my back door.
But the back door of my phone, there's some effed up memes and stuff in there.
I'm like, really glad we don't live in Britain.
It's definitely questionable whether that's legal in those countries.
But the FBI, like the FBI was attacking you.
So I think what's kind of crazy is like, you know, the FBI does get a little bored, the CIA, and they just start doing dumb shit.
michael hennessey
Oh, yeah, they followed me for a while.
They checked my phone.
They confiscated my phone.
They confiscated my computer.
I woke up with about like 20 of them in the yard with their guns pointed at me.
I mean, it was a whole event.
So yeah, they didn't leave me alone.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's not, it's not fun to have the FBI harass you.
I love it when you, like, your old best friend from high school calls you.
He's like, are you okay?
It's like, what?
The FBI called me for information about you.
And you're like, how'd they know we were friends?
That's crazy.
We were friends 10 years ago.
Like, how'd they know that?
But they do know these things.
So none of the stuff that I'm reading is really that weird.
We know that they monitor churches.
I'm just going to read some of these things.
These are all posted by Mario Nafal.
I'm not going to click on them though, but they tracked MLK suspect through the Coast Guard ship records.
They monitored churches backing the poor people's campaign, called them fronts for unrest.
The CIA sent photos of Mystery Man outside Cuba's embassy.
They indexed King Between His Wife and His Killer.
Prominent theologians accuse CIA of involvement in MLK's death as well.
So it's like, yeah, I mean, does this tell us anything?
Once again, from my understanding, these documents do nothing.
but just add more information.
And I kind of like, it's kind of like how I tell people, like I start rumors about myself sometimes as like I, it is a joke.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
You know?
And like, by the way, this is a true thing I've told people.
Everybody I know, I have told something very embarrassing and personal, different that's unique that I've only told them.
And I index and write it down.
And if I ever hear that from anyone, then I know that they're a leaky source and I know not to trust them.
So everybody knows one thing.
And what is that that I told you?
Well, you wouldn't know.
And hopefully, if you find out what it is, then you're fired.
So there's that.
No, I just won't talk to you again.
But most importantly, it's like, this is not weird.
This doesn't mean that they did it.
But I think there's probably a 99% chance that the CIA was involved.
To what extent, I don't know.
But I mean, obviously, there's a lot of reasons they would have wanted to kill him.
I don't think they told us, right?
michael hennessey
Yeah, I don't think we're getting all the information.
As I mentioned before, a lot of the information has been removed.
They're never going to be transparent with us.
That's really what it comes down to.
And, you know, I hate to keep going over it, but it's really just smoke and mirrors for us.
It's kind of like Anna was mentioning that, you know, how the administration is just trying to cover everything up.
You even had the speaker today talking about how we shouldn't be asking them where the Epstein files are, that the FBI and the DOJ has them.
So we should bring it to their attention.
And it's, I mean, at what point are they going to take accountability?
This is the administration that's in office.
Take the proper steps to make sure that this information is released and we can actually get to the bottom of this.
elijah schaffer
Well, I want to move over to the Epstein stuff because this is also interesting.
Oh, I get so tired of the news cycle.
It's just so, let's just hope tomorrow has a better news cycle.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you, dude, it's, it's like rumbles low on every show right now.
unidentified
I went to the front.
elijah schaffer
I was like, damn.
Like, even like, even like, what's his name?
Like, I was actually blown away.
Like, Glenn Greenwell only has like 1.7K live viewers right now.
It is, it is, and he was just like 15,000.
It is just, no, there's nothing going on.
So no one's going to tune on, you know?
But I will say, for those of you that are watching, I think we're like, what, 1,200 of you watching across the platforms are now live.
It's great.
It's fantastic.
A lot of you guys download it.
We're growing, by the way.
This show is only about six weeks old.
It's a brand new show, brand new channel.
We really appreciate you guys.
So we're not really worried about numbers ourselves.
We're very happy where things are.
And to have a show that's six weeks old and already getting these kind of traction is like pretty freaking awesome.
And so I don't think about who's not watching.
I think about who is.
And I appreciate you guys from the super chatters to those that join the locals.
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michael hennessey
The locals is nice, too.
You did a shout out to Mendoza for his one year with the Mendoza report.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Did you see that, Mike?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was cute.
elijah schaffer
He got a little cake, and they put up like ribbons and stuff.
It was a little bit feminine, Mike, but I, but you said, you know, we got to keep things, you got to keep it a little sussy at the Mendoza report.
unidentified
Exactly, yeah.
elijah schaffer
He was really with the dressings for his, he literally catered it, and it was like the dressing was titled Zesty.
It was Zesty Vinaigrettes.
It was so good anyway.
So stupid.
All right.
A couple super chats.
Pale Haas said, speaking of martyrs, Tina Peters hearing is tomorrow.
I don't know who that is, but I will.
anna perez
She's a gold star mom.
I used to produce for her at Liddell TV, and she was imprisoned actually because she was exposing what looked like some election irregularities.
unidentified
I know who this is.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we covered on Gateway a lot.
anna perez
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
I just like sometimes my journalism and then this show like never crossed my line.
So I can never like track, but like there's so much going on.
We should cover that tomorrow.
unidentified
Absolutely.
elijah schaffer
That's good just to remember.
All right, jumping into the Epstein stuff.
Oh, wait.
And by the way, there's also a where is this?
There was one more as well.
I think.
Oh, here, you get nothing because it's $2, but it said, the Latinos in your office is proof civil rights worked.
Checkmate, bigoted chubs.
michael hennessey
No, they got us.
elijah schaffer
No, no, you're still ringing us.
Like, true.
michael mendoza
Also, just really quick, by the way, we're already up to $150 on Pion Sap, aka Connors, give Sengo.
So I'm sure that he won't thank you for that.
But let's get more because obviously, you know, he's putting himself out there.
He's giving his real views.
He didn't back down.
So, and you know, that's the most important thing.
That's how we have to be moving forward, or else we're never going to get anywhere.
We're never going to achieve our political ends if people aren't willing to put themselves on the front line.
So make sure I put it in the description already, but I can drop it in the chat.
Once I'm done speaking here, I'll drop it in the chat and make sure that you go ahead and support him and just wanted to mention that.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and you can also get a monthly subscription.
I'm just looking at that right now.
That's actually crazy.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
Want to take the Epstein segment and introduce us to us and tell us what we're doing.
So we're going to try sometimes too where I'm going to have Mike just on the fly do the segments.
So if you want to scroll down there and just open up the main, the first document and lead us into, should be able to just open it up, right?
michael mendoza
Yeah.
michael hennessey
The first one is the Jelaine Maxwell.
This was actually comes from Riff TV.
elijah schaffer
Oh, it's from our own website.
All right.
michael hennessey
Yeah, we have a few others.
This is just kind of like an opener they had to it.
But we have a couple other videos to go over, especially allegations against Trump and a few other incidents that happened.
It says, in the saga, in the saga that refuses to die, the Jeffrey Epstein case explodes back into the spotlight, threatening to unravel secrets of the powerful and have long buried.
Is it just Lane?
I always put your name.
elijah schaffer
It's Delaney Gislane.
michael hennessey
Delaine.
The only person jailed in connection, Epstein, allegedly sex trafficking Empire, is reportedly ready to break her silence before Congress.
But as President Trump dismisses the so-called Epstein list as a Democratic orchestrated hoax, the battle over the truth intensifies, splitting his base and fueling a firestorm of distrust.
So this really, this article is really just diving into how she's going to be coming out.
She is going to be testifying, you know, against hopefully releasing names, releasing information.
It's a little skeptical if she is going to do it.
The one thing I did want to bring up was, you know, with her coming out and the way Trump's handling everything, he actually went ahead and said, let me see if I can pull it up on my computer real fast here.
Let me see.
Okay.
So Donald Trump is now claiming that, and I don't know if you guys agree.
I'm definitely not agreeing with this.
He says his new poll numbers with the Republican Party and MAGA have gone up significantly since the Jeffrey Epstein hoax has been exposed.
anna perez
What did he expose?
michael hennessey
Nothing.
anna perez
He's taking credit for something that didn't happen yet at all.
michael hennessey
By the radical left Democrats and just plain troublemakers.
They have it 90%, 92%, 93%, 95% in various polls.
And all the Republican Party records.
The general election numbers are my highest ever.
People with like strong borders and all of the many other things I have done.
God bless America.
You know, something like this, I really don't get how he's preaching.
Like, first off, you didn't release the Epstein files.
We got no information on Epstein.
All you did was say it's coming.
It's not coming.
It's a hoax.
You know, why are we still talking about this?
And even with the immigration numbers, you know, I am glad that the border is secure.
But at the same time, as you mentioned before, these are rookie numbers.
You know, he has to bring it up.
anna perez
We ought to be deporting like a million a year for it to be impressive at all.
And we're not doing that.
It's not at a high enough rate to be bragging about it.
That's for sure.
And then to throw in the whole Epstein thing and take credit for that, I'm confused.
Like, what was my takeaway supposed to be?
I exposed the Epstein hoax.
Oh, so you think we wouldn't have known about Epstein at all if you didn't talk about it?
That's not true.
People had talked about Epstein before him.
And we actually thought you were going to be the one to spearhead the releasing of those files.
And he talked about it throughout his whole campaign.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
It's almost like we're just being gaslit by this administration completely.
It's insulting, honestly.
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Anyway, jumping into this stuff with Epstein, I think with all of this being said and done, I just don't think that we're going to get the answers because, you know, Howard Luttnick, one of his advisors, you know, this guy was Epstein's neighbor.
He's one of his associates, basically.
And look, I don't think Trump was out there popping 12-year-olds, but I think that we have an interview, right?
That got, do you have that in here?
The Howard Stern interview that came up from Howard Stern one?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, I actually have that.
elijah schaffer
It's actually a Howard Stern interview with Trump.
Did you hear about this one?
This is old.
connor pinesap estelle
I didn't hear about this interview.
elijah schaffer
It's definitely disturbing.
We're not an anti-Trump show.
Some people petitioned against Trump.
I don't think life would have been better with Kamala Harris.
I don't think you would have been in jail.
michael hennessey
He had been locked up for five years.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he got pardoned at least.
So that's good.
But play this.
This is a really odd interview.
And tell me if he's being facetious.
I don't know.
unidentified
Listen.
What is the best thing about being Donald Trump right now?
Well, other than the fact I'm married, okay.
And I'm very happy that I have a great wife.
But if I weren't married, I'd be able to get all of the girls I want, except for possibly Robin.
Do you think you could now be banging 24-year-olds?
Oh, absolutely.
Would you do it?
I have no problem.
Yeah, do you have an age limit or would you?
No, no, I have no age.
I mean, I have an age limit.
I don't want to be a living.
I'm not sure, with a 12-year-old.
Can I make a prediction for you?
Yes.
I say you have one more marriage in you.
Yeah.
Well, that's nice.
I'm sure Melania will love to hear it.
What is the best thing about being?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
A reference to like 12-year-olds.
It's just kind of a weird thing.
michael hennessey
It's a weird number to pick.
mark levin
That's an odd thing.
michael hennessey
Instead of being like, okay, they at least got to be over 18.
No, but if they're over 12.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it was like, look, maybe he was joking, right?
He's known to be a joker.
And this is also a different era where people did just say, like, you know, they just said grossly inappropriate things.
Like, I mean that, I'm not a pussy.
I don't think they're grossly inappropriate.
But I'm saying, so sometimes we can hear things.
And that's why, have you ever seen this?
Gen Z is so soft that they're putting warnings on like movies from the 90s with like humor.
It's like Russia.
Yeah, Russia.
It's like some of the statements between two ethnicities can be considered culturally insensitive.
Please watch, knowing the context, that in the 90s, people didn't have the same respect for ethnic diversity as they do today.
Watch with discretion, and then it's like Jackie Chan.
It's like, yeah, it's actually crazy.
But I just, I don't know.
I just bring that up there.
michael hennessey
I don't know if he was involved in anything.
I will say that, but there has been a lot of allegations that came against him.
Back in 2016, you had one girl who came out, said that when she was 13 years old, that she was trafficked to Trump and that she dropped her case allegedly because of death threats.
So to that, we don't know much.
I do have that interview, but there was also another one, Maria Farmer, who's an alleged Jeff King.
elijah schaffer
Did you play that?
We want to see that.
I haven't seen it.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's like, hey, so there's this big thing.
This girl said she was abused by Trump.
Anyway, move on to something more important, like index just 77 of the JFK files.
I want to hear the girl that says that this happened.
michael hennessey
All right.
This is her.
elijah schaffer
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michael hennessey
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elijah schaffer
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anna perez
Yeah, ALP is better.
I think.
elijah schaffer
Someone's like, oh, Elijah, he'll sell drugs to his audience.
Yeah, I will.
Yeah, and what are you going to do about it?
We do a lot of drugs here.
But like the good legal ones.
michael hennessey
All right.
So this is her interview here.
I believe she goes more into it towards the end.
elijah schaffer
Was this ever debunked?
Because that looks like a wig.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
michael hennessey
That's why I didn't want to put this one out.
You can actually look it up online.
This was a kid.
elijah schaffer
It's Panna Arez.
It's like someone trying to be Anne.
michael hennessey
But then the weird part is they actually blur her later on.
elijah schaffer
Okay, this is weird.
Let me play this.
unidentified
I was so young and I was also a virgin.
So I don't know.
It seemed like he wasn't really into having girls that were liked by the other guys.
He kind of, you know, the whole glove.
He kind of liked things to be his first.
For lack of a better term, but he was the one who wanted to get to a girl before everyone else did.
Donald Trump knew that I was 13 because the first night that I was there, Tiffany actually suggested that she had a whole bunch of different wigs and I expressed interest in them.
I always told her that I would love to walk around with blue hair.
And so I tried some on and there was a blonde wig that she said that looked great on me.
So I wore that wig.
And Donald Trump had specifically asked about me because I remind him of his daughter.
And she said, well, she's 13 as well.
So he knew the first time that he saw me, but he took a liking to me because I look like his daughter.
If Ivako weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.
Oh, it's so weird.
Stop.
You know what?
What's the favorite thing you have in common with your father?
Either real estate or golf.
Donald, with your daughter?
Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that.
The reason I'm coming out now is when it happens.
elijah schaffer
And then Renaissance is like, what?
unidentified
And when I was a good president.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
So I know Gen Z is like soft.
This is my point.
Like I know someone that was like talking in front of another Gen Z person that I know, and they were like, just like making a comment, oh yeah, like, like it was about, not about anything that happened here, but it was like, oh, yeah, you know, my little sister had, you know, big boobs or whatever, and then like, you know, was self-conscious about the pictures.
And then when I asked her, you know, like, why do you wear shirts like that?
She was like, well, you have big boobs if you wear like big shirts and you look fat.
And I was like, there's only so many things you can wear.
And so, yeah, like, yeah, well, our intern knows too.
So the thing is, is, is, I'm like, I'm like, you know, we're like there.
And like, the Gen Z is like super horrified, like, that like some guy, like, brother would, like, mention that his sister has big boobs.
Like, for my generation, like, it's not, you know, it's a context.
He's not saying anything.
Like, he's saying, like, he's as a brother who's concerned.
He's like, you know, you look, you have eyes and you look at your sister and go, why are you dressed like that?
You're like a father or something.
Like, it's not weird if you're a father and you're like, see, that, and you notice your daughter looks conventionally what guys would be sexually attracted to.
That's called being a good father or like a good brother.
It doesn't mean you're sexually attracted to them, but everybody knows you would still sell your daughter.
You don't go out naked because men like naked women.
This is a very, very understanding thing.
So it's not necessarily weird for a father to comment about his daughter being attractive or also even try to get her dates by telling a guy something like, oh, you know, my daughter's, you know, she's a good-looking gal, you know, she's, but you still probably wouldn't describe your daughter as like sexy.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that is very.
So I think Gen Z does get, we're just like, I found out that Gen Z doesn't like to change in front of each other.
That's also bizarre too.
Because we love to change.
We all change together.
We bring our clothes to the office and change together every morning.
But no, but I mean, there's a lot of these with Gen Z I think are really weird and they fall in this like extreme spectrum of either they're like extremely like extremely based or extremely not right.
So there's really no in-between, but with social issues, they're all kind of pussies.
Like they think you have to be like a Catholic, perfect person or you're like a degenerate.
It's like, that's not how most people think or live.
I do think that his comments are freaking weird though.
Like me, all that context, I like, I feel uncomfortable.
Like there's pictures of him like with young girls that look underage.
And it's like, okay, if it was like somebody's daughter that was like six and came up, like gave me a kiss on the cheek or something, that's fine.
But like someone's 16-year-old daughter, no, thank you.
Please don't do that to me.
And I've seen like girls leaning on him and kids.
And I'm not saying anything about Trump.
I'm just saying, can we at least address the elephant in the room?
That I don't think that was just, those are just like, those comments are weird.
michael hennessey
They are definitely weird.
It made me uncomfortable hearing them.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's weird, but it doesn't make him a pedophile.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's weird.
connor pinesap estelle
Yeah.
I tend to have a more critical view of Trump, to be honest, with the recent episodes.
elijah schaffer
Oh, go on.
Go on.
connor pinesap estelle
I mean, frankly, I think he's on the list considering that for abusing.
For abusing.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
connor pinesap estelle
Because at first, you know, I had a friend who kind of brought up a good point about, do you think it's like just Massad kind of, you know, trying to make him not release the list, kind of shut it down, make, you know, make him put it in the background, right?
And I don't know, his sporadic behavior makes me think that he has more of a personal stake in it than just someone like blackmailing him or just trying to twist his twist his arm right in a manner of like normal political intervention, right?
From like Israel or what have you.
And so he's been acting really weird recently with the list.
I mean, especially when people will keep bringing it up and he's like, oh, why are we still talking about that?
There's this other thing going on.
Why are we still mentioning Epstein?
Well, the Epstein case is the largest case of, I mean, child abuse in probably history at this point, right?
Why wouldn't we talk about it?
I mean, another friend of mine said the other day, if America has to fall because of it, fall.
You know, you have to deal with these people in power who are actively abating and abetting abusers or participating in that abuse, or else the cycle is just going to continue.
And it's like, you're going to get Epstein 2, 3, 4 after it.
anna perez
Yeah.
And it was kind of like, it was kind of interesting that he made child trafficking the kind of like the cornerstone of his campaign.
It's almost like you're hiding in plain sight.
connor pinesap estelle
Absolutely.
anna perez
You're kind of like making something the highlight of your campaign so nobody thinks that's what you're guilty of.
And because I kind of agree, like I'm kind of like at this point, I don't know.
Nobody would be this defensive or this protective of the list unless there's something that they have at stake, personally speaking.
So, and then you couple that with the fact that he wanted us to pay so much attention to it.
Oh, and then by the way, we thought that was going to carry through the entire campaign into his presidency.
And at some point, it kind of got dropped off.
Like he just stopped talking about child trafficking after promising to make it to make that his big issue, which I think is strange.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael hennessey
And his son did too.
elijah schaffer
Just, you know, his son did.
His son, Trump's son, also said we need to release the list.
And JD Vance got awkward about it.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
Well, JD Vance, even at first, was laughing on Theo Vaughn, saying that it should be released as well.
connor pinesap estelle
Remember that.
michael hennessey
Yeah, they've all come out and said it plenty of times.
And then, you know, now there's a lot of rumors in the background.
That's actually how Trump met his wife was through Epstein and a bunch of others, but we still got to figure out.
elijah schaffer
Is that a rumor?
Because I heard that that's true.
michael hennessey
I don't know if it's true or not.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't want to speak in absolute unless you know it's true.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, because I don't want to come across like the Trump is Hitler kind of people.
You know, because I don't think, I don't care about.
Do you ever seen that meme where it's it's it's what the left says Trump administration is like and he's like has a swastika on his arm and he's dressed like a fascist and then it says what Trump's administration is really like to people who know and it's just like that Sam Hyde clip.
Jews.
Yeah.
connor pinesap estelle
It's like you know do it's him holding the gay pride flag LGBT for Trump.
elijah schaffer
Like we know that he's not really right wing.
He's a moderate, right?
He's a moderate centrist.
He's center left.
You know, he's center left, but he's traditionally like a 90s Democrat.
He doesn't like crime.
He wants order.
He's like Bill Clinton, basically.
You know what I mean?
Bill Clinton didn't want a lot of, you know, foreign intervention.
He was trying to figure things out strategically.
Bill Clinton famously, speaking of our book, you know, where the right went wrong, you know, the neocons tried to get a hold of the country under Clinton.
And I got to say, this is like, I want to make Sarah so mad because I always defend the governor of California.
I'm just like defending Bill Clinton now, too.
unidentified
Oh, God.
elijah schaffer
I'm just like defending Bill Clinton.
No, but I'm going to be honest.
I don't care that he got a blowjob in the Oval Office.
Okay.
I actually don't care.
The fact that he resisted the neocons for eight years and they consistently, you know, with they consistently tried to get him to adopt this new world order, which he did mention, but he didn't take their plan seriously.
Then they tried to get him to adopt this invasion into the Middle East.
And he actually, technically, it was Bush Sr. that handled Kuwait, right?
That was him, right?
They handled the Iraq invasion.
And I think they wanted to go back in then in the 90s.
So I'm going to give him credit for his foreign policy.
unidentified
And he says, I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
elijah schaffer
He says he didn't.
And if the dress isn't stained, then don't give the blame, right?
That's all I'm going to say.
No, but jokes aside, you know, I do think, you know, in retrospect, the neocons took control of the government, which is what, what, which is the Jews, right?
So like that is this, it's a synonym.
They're equivalent words.
So sometimes, as much as I know, like other people, I know Fuentes doesn't like when people say like Frankis or neocons.
And I think he's right about that.
Like you do got to like just name people.
Like you got to just, you got to just say like what you said.
You got to just say if you are what you are and what it is, what it is.
But I also think that we need to remember too, like I tell people, it is important to also say Zionists because the Zionist regime is being propped up by a lot of evangelical Christians too.
Absolutely.
So evangelicalism is a huge political problem in our country.
And it's a very complicated one because we really don't want to come against Christians.
And I know a lot of evangelicals are very moral people.
And it's very hard to tell moral people that you don't smoke, you don't drink, you don't gamble, but you're literally, your politics is destroying this country.
And with Trump, it's like it was really conflicting in the last election because I tell people that what I voted for mainly was this guy not to go to jail.
I did an abortion thing.
You know, girls are like, I just want my abortion.
I was like, I just didn't want my friend to go to jail.
connor pinesap estelle
That's so real.
elijah schaffer
So I voted for him and he did get the pardon.
And I mean, I talked to Bruce Witz and people in the cabinet and they said he is going to pardon people if he gets elected.
So I did it to also not go to jail too.
But other than that, he's failed it.
I thought he was going to end the Ukraine war, honestly.
I thought maybe he was.
michael hennessey
Actually, before he entered, he said before I ended up disappointing.
That war will be completely over.
And it's like, no, that didn't happen.
No more foreign wars.
You know what it was in the Middle East?
anna perez
No, I think like with the Ukraine thing, how he promised to give more money to them, because that was a recent thing.
That was a recent story.
We talked about it actually on the show when I was hosting.
And I think he's just trying so hard to not come across as pro-Russia, which kind of says that he's falling right into the hands of their narrative, the left's narrative, which, because that's what they tried to push for so long, which is like demoralizing because it kind of just shows how sold out he is to the Jays, you know?
elijah schaffer
I like Putin, to be completely honest.
Although my neighbor, where I just moved here in Boca, her dad was assassinated by Putin.
So she is in asylum here.
So I know he's not perfect and I wouldn't want to get on his bad side.
connor pinesap estelle
Right.
elijah schaffer
But I know Russians.
I know a lot of Russians.
This boke is a very Russian city.
This is.
There's a lot of Russians.
And there's a Russian mob and the Jewish mob here that control everything.
But one thing that they do tell me is like, it's always a trip going back to Moscow because it's like, there's no homeless drug addicts on the street.
And there's a lot of white people.
And everyone's like, oh, but there's Muslims and stuff and whatever.
But even Putin still defends the Holy Land.
He still seems to be a Zionist in some ways, although he defends Iran and whatnot.
He's not getting Iran's back right now.
connor pinesap estelle
No, he's not.
elijah schaffer
You know what I mean?
He's not like ISIS, right?
Or whatever.
You'd think they'd be the enemies, but they don't act like it, right?
They don't act like Israel's enemies.
connor pinesap estelle
Well, and not to mention, I mean, his main political theorist Dugan, right?
I haven't studied Duganism like in depth, but I know that he likes Kappa.
He heavily kind of values Zionism and sees a lot of value in it.
He's like condemned anti-Semitism over and over and over again.
And so even though there are like these admirable kind of like right-wing elements to Putin's regime, there's still very much that like Zionist tint to it that doesn't really quite give us exactly what we want.
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He was terminated from his job for holding right-wing political beliefs.
And again, I want to say, dude, it was pretty fucking retarded to say that on a liberal show and not expect this to happen.
You know, I am going to be honest.
connor pinesap estelle
Yeah, I mean, it was definitely a spur of the moment thing.
elijah schaffer
It was a spurgy.
It was a spurgy moment.
connor pinesap estelle
Yeah.
But what I would say with it was I wanted to press upon that we are in a time now where that rhetoric shouldn't affect us anymore.
No, it does.
elijah schaffer
Clearly, I just want to remind people, right?
Clearly it does.
I'm not telling you to back down.
Why didn't you back down though?
Because we talked about it earlier, but just, I mean, we're talking about like standing up and Trump is a stand-up.
You said something, dude.
You said you're a fascist.
And I don't want to, I'm not going to come across like I'm county signaling you because like I said, I support Bukele and he's a fascist.
No one wants to accept that, but he's a 100% fascist.
And when you go to El Salvador, they say, yeah, fascista.
It's, yeah, yeah, it's good.
You know, so it's like, and I see they're liberated.
Fascism isn't bad.
It's a good ideology when it's applied correctly, especially with Christian principles and morals.
But in America, man, you had to have known, like, how did you not know?
Like, I have a good job and I'm not going to have a job.
And was it worth it to you?
Was this worth it to you?
Be honest.
connor pinesap estelle
I think in some ways, yes, and in some ways, no.
I only care about really sort of how something affects me at the end, or rather, I guess I could put it in this.
I don't care about myself, but I do care about the people.
And so in that way, I do care very, very, very much.
But as for myself, I've chosen to take control of about these speaking out about these topics.
And so if people want to insult me or go after me, that is what that is, right?
But I care about the people in my life, and that's what I'm most concerned with.
elijah schaffer
Sorry, yeah, real quickly, was that audio issue just in my headphones or was he not coming in?
michael mendoza
I think I just accidentally muted the first part of that.
connor pinesap estelle
Oh, no.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I was like, I was confused what was going on there.
michael mendoza
No, well, it was because the TV was messed up behind him.
I was trying to fix it, but sorry about that.
elijah schaffer
Okay, yeah.
Go ahead and repeat what you just said for if the clippers are out there because I didn't know you went out in my headphones.
connor pinesap estelle
For me, if I suffer personally, it is what it is.
I've chosen to speak about these issues.
I've chosen to speak about Christ.
And I know that people are persecuted for his namesake.
And that's something that I had to accept at the beginning.
I just want the people in my life to be safe, happy, and healthy.
That's the only thing I care about at the end of the day.
They are what matters to me.
They are my light.
They are my sun.
They're the earth that I walk.
elijah schaffer
And are you married?
connor pinesap estelle
I'm not.
elijah schaffer
You want to be married?
connor pinesap estelle
I've been debating it kind of back and forth.
I'm leaning towards it right now, but I really don't know like what I want to do with my life.
unidentified
How old are you?
connor pinesap estelle
I'm 24 years old.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so you're not, then, you know, you have to.
connor pinesap estelle
I'm not super old.
elijah schaffer
I didn't even get married until I was 25.
And I, oh, yeah.
And I obviously can't go back, but like, I'd probably be much, I'd be much a better husband and dad if I'd gotten married now than if I'd gotten married then.
I think that men, that men should get married a little bit older.
connor pinesap estelle
I think so.
elijah schaffer
But I could have still married a girl that was the same age as my wife was like 21 or something when I married her.
And like, I still would have married.
I would still go marry a 21-year-old girl and make her imprint on me and become my partner.
Because that's what you want to do for a young girl that hasn't been tainted.
The taint hasn't been tainted, as they say.
Sorry, it's a very crass way to say it, but it's a true statement.
And you want them to imprint.
But at 24, I do think that there's a lot of weird pressure.
That was really weird, right?
In the Cannis interview, how she was like, yeah.
Because I think Fuentes is what?
He's 25 now?
michael mendoza
26, I believe.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but she was like, pressure him, like, why aren't you married?
And I do want to remind people by 26, you should be preparing to get married.
And I think you should get married at some point.
Why would you not want to get married though?
Because it was weird that she was like, made him seem.
Didn't she get married older than he is?
unidentified
Yeah.
michael mendoza
Right.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that was pretty old.
connor pinesap estelle
And did he have like a week-long like thing before the engagement was on?
Like her husband currently like texted her or something, like, hey, want to get married?
And then they got married.
michael mendoza
Yeah, I think they got engaged over Skype or something like that.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
elijah schaffer
Well, and I mean, and by the way, to remind people, it's like, you know, you shouldn't be dating for a long time.
If you don't, if you don't, if you don't know by within 30 days, if you're going to marry the girl, don't marry her.
connor pinesap estelle
And I would agree with that to a certain extent.
I think you should be involved in like actual dating for about half a year to a year to like really know.
It's like six months, six months at the very least.
But I completely agree.
You shouldn't keep going on dates with someone if within the 30 like day period, you're not sure if this is the woman that you're meant to be married with.
Because otherwise, I mean, you're just wasting your time.
And that's how you fall into all kinds of like goofy simpiness and your brain just becomes like focused on the flesh and what have you.
You don't want it.
elijah schaffer
Well, and you're going to end up sleeping together.
unidentified
Absolutely.
elijah schaffer
You know what I mean?
Like you're just going to end up sleeping together and it's going to cause a whole slew of problems.
And it's like, if you're marrying, especially if you're marrying a virgin, you don't want to take the virginity before they're, before they're, the ring's on the finger.
If you're not a virgin, it's going to be really hard not to sleep together in general.
Like once, once you turn that engine on, like once you, once you start sleeping around, that's why it's always the God, God wants you to like stay pure.
Because I always tell people like, like, I always meet these young guys.
I'm assuming you're a virgin then, yes?
connor pinesap estelle
No?
I wish I was.
I've made that mistake, sadly, in my past.
I really wish I had stayed one, but I would encourage other young men to wait till marriage.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I would say if you can stay pure, stay pure.
Because as a guy, once you start banging, it's like every guy knows this.
Then you get a girlfriend.
It's like, you're going to bang her.
Like, it's like, it's really hard.
It's very hard for me too.
Like, and it's like, I just think that with the marriage thing, you know, I only ask you this because I don't understand why, especially young guys, groipers, a lot of them are like into this, this incel stuff.
Is this just a LARP?
Like, is that just like a joke, like being incel?
Or are they, are they all actually going to get married?
Because they're young still, but do they all, do your friends plan on getting married?
connor pinesap estelle
So all my friends plan on getting married.
Even the ones online plan on getting married.
I think the incel idea is embracing a term that was used against young men for so long.
You know, this idea of if you stated any political worldview that was kind of like not the norm, what was the constant response?
Oh, well, you can't get laid.
You're an incel.
And that's, you just hold these beliefs because you hate women or you're not getting any pussy or something like that, right?
And that's ridiculous.
It's like, I hold these political beliefs because I truly value them.
And it's a worldview that I've culminated off of sort of my research and my experience and what I know to be true.
And sex has no bearing on that.
And so I think for a lot of young men, myself included, we use the term incel ironically, not because we're truly involuntary celibate.
If anything, we're more voluntary celibate, but it's that name for this, like volceller.
Volcells.
elijah schaffer
Is that really what it's called?
unidentified
Yeah.
anna perez
People call themselves vol cells.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Never heard that phrase.
connor pinesap estelle
It's what it's called.
But the thing is, is it doesn't have the potency, right?
Because if you say vol cell, people are like, ah, okay, that's whatever, right?
But if you say incel, you're kind of taking on the badge that they try to place on you and saying, you know what?
There is such a desire within me to do the right thing to serve God.
It's involuntary.
anna perez
Kind of like if people say, taking back that power from the people who thought that it was a slanderous term and you're kind of using it against them.
I think it's cool.
I think it's funny.
And I think it accomplishes exactly what it was meant to accomplish.
Because realistically, most of the people who use that term are absolutely vol cells and not incels.
But that's kind of what makes it so like ironic and kind of plays against what they always throw at them.
michael mendoza
And people who are Elliot Roger, if you can hear us.
connor pinesap estelle
That's what I'm going to say.
elijah schaffer
Random note real fast.
They love Oso.
A $20 super chat.
Let's get some confetti here.
Hey, Anna.
Remember me from CGverse?
Thoughts on Brody?
anna perez
Yeah, I remember you, Oso.
I don't know what happened to Brody.
I honestly don't.
I was in a group chat with Oso, so that's what.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
And also we got another super chat as well from Randall Flagg said, my donations are small, but my heart is big.
No, by the way, just so you know, Randall, maybe we will do, we got to start remembering these names.
We can do an air horn for Randall because even though it's usually a $5 super chat, you've been giving every show.
So it's like, if you become a regular, you'll at least start getting an air horn for any donation because we appreciate you coming on.
Like if you, if you get up to $5 and then you go on top of that continuum, we'll give you an air horn there.
But Randall Flagg said, my donations are small, but my heart is big.
That's what I told my wife, too.
I was like, it might be small, but I've got a big heart, you know?
Once I launch my shit coin, I'll number one, sponsor Elijah.
Two, buy a tie for Hennessy.
And three, Anna can have any single appetizer she wants from Applebee's.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Wow.
anna perez
That's so generous.
connor pinesap estelle
That is very generous.
anna perez
That is too generous.
I cannot accept that.
I simply cannot.
elijah schaffer
Can I also tell you too that girls' standards are girls' standards are too damn high for what they offer.
Like, girls have virgin...
anna perez
Oh, okay.
Thanks, Elijah.
unidentified
Girls...
elijah schaffer
No, but girls have...
anna perez
That felt personal.
Wow.
elijah schaffer
No, because I was going to say about Applebee's.
Like in my head, I was like, what chick would be okay with you taking them to Applebee's on a date?
And I'm like, but why not?
Because Applebee's, Applebee's, is a place you go when you don't know if you like the people.
You know what I mean?
connor pinesap estelle
Oh, you kind of feel it out a little bit.
elijah schaffer
Well, you never go like, oh, I have really good friends.
Let's all go out on Friday to Applebee's.
Applebee's is like somebody from church invites you out like, hey, you want to get lunch?
Like, all right, let's get Applebee's.
anna perez
I don't think anybody is.
No, I've never, even like with friends, I've never gone with them to Applebee's.
unidentified
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
Well, some of us have been poor in our lives.
And that was a nice restaurant for me growing up.
It was like it was just fine dining.
And I was going to say, you know, but I'm saying Applebee's is a good spot where it's like, yeah, it's not fast food.
And you can take a girl on a date.
Would you take it?
Would you, would you, would you, I think Applebee's is fine to go on a date too.
Or you've been together for a long time.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
anna perez
And you've been together for a while and you're just like, let's go to Applebee's.
Yeah, that's fine.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
For drinks mostly.
michael hennessey
But also, you don't want to break the bank on the first date.
elijah schaffer
No, because you don't.
unidentified
You don't even know.
michael hennessey
Well, here's what I tell.
anna perez
Here's the problem: people need to be very specific with who they date.
Like a lot of young men will cast a very wide net and they don't think about it, but really in reality, it's because they want something beyond what they're saying that they want.
They find a girl attractive and they want to justify it.
So they're like, well, she may not have these important things that I want in common with her, but I'm still going to do it.
I'm still going to go on a date with her.
So then a lot of times they'll wind up spending a lot of money because they're not being intentional enough with who they're dating or who they're picking to even just go on first dates with.
I think that would probably save them a lot of money, honestly, if I'm being honest.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, also, I think we should always talk a little about dating and stuff.
A lot of people are interested in it.
And also reminding you, dude, it's so crazy, guys.
I was hanging out with friends, and there was this Jewish girl that was with them, and she kept talking to me.
And I was trying to get her to go away.
So I decided to be as mean as possible.
Like, I was just like, you know, I run a sexist, racist, anti-Semitic podcast.
And like, you know, she's got like a Star of David on.
I'm like, try to tell her.
And like, the more I was mean to her, the more she was like leaning in, like trying to talk to me more.
And I'm like, I was like, yeah.
And I was literally like, I'm married.
And then she's like, well, I'm taken.
And I'm like, well, that's crazy because you're talking to me like you're interested in me and I'm being mean to you.
So I have to remind you, girls don't like nice guys.
I'm going to be completely honest.
anna perez
That's actually not true.
I actually was having this conversation.
elijah schaffer
It's like the bob haircut advice for girls.
Come on now.
Guys, be nice.
Be really clean and nice to girls because they're really not going to cheat on you.
anna perez
No, no, no, no.
I was going to say, I was having this conversation the other day with someone.
And here's the thing.
Like, the problem is, like, it's with men who like overcompensate with niceness.
And you have to have self-respect.
And both people do.
elijah schaffer
You're like a guy in a nice fedora that says, Malady.
Yeah.
anna perez
Like, that's like.
A woman can sense when you don't have self-respect.
And that's really what it comes from.
And yeah, there are like cases of, I guess, women being just like bitches and being like, well, yeah, I like being treated badly or whatever.
Like, I don't doubt that exists.
But I think most of the time where that idea comes from is the fact that, you know, a guy thinks he's with a girl that's out of his league or like he overcompensates with niceness when in reality she would have liked you better if you just had self-respect.
You're laughing.
connor pinesap estelle
But the thing is, if you're confident, if you're confident and you bring out the Yu-Gi-Oh card deck for the first date, there you go.
I mean, she's impressed.
That's what I'm trying to say.
anna perez
So thank you.
That's exactly.
No, no, really, though.
But like, also, don't, if you are like a weird guy, like, don't cover that up.
Like, be yourself.
And I think too many people try to be with the woman.
It's a very gynocentric society we live in.
You can't give into it as a man.
You cannot like.
elijah schaffer
Weigh in.
Weigh in on this.
You're smiling too.
unidentified
This is not.
elijah schaffer
This is not.
I know a lot of guys.
I am one too.
I have some experience.
Is like they girls hate simps.
Like, it's just like you're so.
anna perez
Yeah, that's what I'm just going to say.
michael hennessey
If you come off too soft, it's not going to work a lot of the times.
At least, you know, I'm not doing anymore, but in the past, I've experienced.
And it comes down to they always have to be impressed.
Maybe the first line that you said during the chat, where are you taking me has to be something nice.
But as far as bad guys go, really what it comes down to is women want to be with a strong man.
I mean, that's really in their DNA.
They inherently want to be someone.
They don't want someone who's going to bend over backwards, say yes to everything.
I mean, a lot of times they talk to us like that's what they want, but that's not what they want in reality.
They want a man that can actually lead.
I mean, it's built into their DNA.
anna perez
But that doesn't mean be mean.
elijah schaffer
No, I agree with you.
They didn't say like rude guys.
I'm saying like they just like you.
Like I wasn't telling like you're an ugly bitch to her face.
It wasn't like rude.
I mean, I was being rude as in like being like, like, just like uninterested and like pushing her off, like, because like to let her know I'm uninterested and I don't want to talk to you.
And the more uninterested I was, the more, the more, the more that she was like.
anna perez
Okay, but she was Jewish.
So like Jewish girls are kind of weird.
Like they like.
connor pinesap estelle
And a lot of you was deploying a Yetzerhara trap too.
So that kind of changed it up.
elijah schaffer
Yatesara.
unidentified
I don't really like the phone, you know?
connor pinesap estelle
It's horrible.
unidentified
It's a wonderful invention and it does so much good, but it's Yatesahara.
elijah schaffer
So I like to, do you ever want to punch someone?
Remember I made it.
connor pinesap estelle
Oh, remember that?
You kind of went off in that clip.
You were like angry at that kid.
I was like, dang, dude.
elijah schaffer
He's like a 12-year-old kid.
Wait, I'm going to bring it up.
You don't know this kid.
Wait, how do you spell Yitzha Hara?
connor pinesap estelle
Oh, man.
It's like, I think it's Y-E-T-Z-H-A-R-A, if I'm not mistaken.
elijah schaffer
Let me see.
Let me see what we can bring up.
This is the most, one of the most.
Well, that's not expensive.
Let me find out.
Give your point.
I'm going to play the clip of that guy.
michael hennessey
No, I mean, that's pretty much it.
You know, also you're saying about the avoiding of like not giving too much.
The thing is, is when you come on too strong or if you give, you know, everything they want it.
People like to chase.
I mean, really, that's what it comes down to.
They don't want to have something that's just so easily obtained.
unidentified
That is true.
michael hennessey
A lot of times women find themselves where they want to get something because they want what they can't have.
And if you give just a little bit, but not too much, you are going to have better results than somebody who comes out and no offense with the Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
Those aren't really going to work the best on her.
anna perez
I don't know.
The Yu-Gi-Oh! cards would work on me.
elijah schaffer
Somebody said women's advice is always what they want a man to be, but not what they're attracted to.
michael hennessey
It's just like, it's those, like you've seen the DNC ones.
They went around and they had a guy ask the girls at the DNC, you know, what type of men are you with?
And a lot of times they say they'll be with stronger conservative men, even though they can't stand them.
And that's because they don't want to have that simp.
They don't want to have that person who has no backbone, backbone and is a really feminine man.
They want someone who's going to be strong, going to be masculine, who's going to be able to lead and help bring the family to a better place.
elijah schaffer
Well, let me tell you this.
So go ahead.
connor pinesap estelle
Well, I was going to say, I mean, look at all that kind of recent trend amongst liberal women where they're like, he's a liberal, but he has a MAGA body, right?
People keep saying that on like TikTok, Instagram.
You know, he's liberal, but he has a MAGA body.
Well, what does that mean?
Well, he's like strong, kind of on the outside, like performative, but he still has like liberal politics.
elijah schaffer
That's what they like.
That's why Hassan Pike is so, so popular.
And everyone hates me for saying this.
I'm actually a big fan of like all the left.
I think they're really, that's a great idea.
Be a conservative in like your appearance and then like come in and then like give the most dog shit opinions to attract the lowest IQ retarded people.
But at the same time, like you're kind of like a Chad, you know?
And it's like, that's kind of like, but I was going to say, what about Chud Energy?
Somebody.
connor pinesap estelle
Chud Energy.
elijah schaffer
Dude, you know who was talking shit on you?
I'm going to bring it up in a second.
michael hennessey
Talking shit on me?
elijah schaffer
No, dude, about him.
I don't know if you've seen it.
From the official Rift account, I defended you.
I said that your aura was unmatched.
He was posting like some video of you.
I'll find it.
What's that guy?
Hanania.
michael mendoza
Yeah, Richard Hania.
elijah schaffer
Richard Hanania.
And I'm like, dude, Richard, which I know Richard's been on the show.
And he came and I never heard his voice before.
And I know my voice is not masculine.
I know I don't come across super masculine.
michael mendoza
That was crazy.
He's like, yeah, so the Democrats.
connor pinesap estelle
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Him and the Krassensteins.
Have you heard the Krassenstein brothers?
You heard them?
connor pinesap estelle
No.
michael mendoza
Okay, I'm going to play a couple of people.
elijah schaffer
Wait, listen, I'm going to play a couple things here because I want to tell you, these are the people talking shit about you.
And that's why I think it's funny.
It's like, hey, people that are talking shit about me, all I do is I screenshot their profile.
Listen, this is the kid.
And I got to be careful because I actually got in trouble for this.
This is a Yateshura trap.
unidentified
I hate the phone.
anna perez
I really hate.
unidentified
Look, I think it's a wonderful marvel of human ingenuity.
anna perez
Is this AI?
unidentified
It's a Yateshah trap.
I really believe that.
elijah schaffer
My mortgage rate just went up right now watching this.
connor pinesap estelle
You're like, wait a minute, my loan defaulted.
What's going on?
unidentified
My credit card loan interest is going up.
michael hennessey
There's a tunnel under my house.
elijah schaffer
You must be, they look at that piece, and that's what happens when you don't have to pay any interest on your loans for your house, right?
Be that pretty piece when you're at 0%.
No, I want to go to that.
What's his name?
Richard Hanania?
michael mendoza
Yeah, Richard Hanania.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
How do you spell that?
michael mendoza
Richard and then H-A-N-A.
elijah schaffer
There it is.
Richard Hanania was talking a lot of smack about you.
connor pinesap estelle
Was it the clip of me dancing?
michael mendoza
Oh, yeah.
connor pinesap estelle
I love that clip.
That's one of my favorites.
I'm just, I'm having a time.
I'm having a good.
elijah schaffer
Are you a streamer?
connor pinesap estelle
I am, yeah.
I heard a stream on Rumble.
michael mendoza
Look at this.
We're back.
elijah schaffer
Can we?
He said, I found the master race.
And well, and I guess it doesn't.
michael mendoza
Yeah, it's not loading.
michael hennessey
Why does it that powerful?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, let me see if I can just copy this.
connor pinesap estelle
It just broke the entire platform.
It broke the internet officially.
michael mendoza
I also like the Joe Cool shirt that you're wearing in the clip of a Snoopy sleeping on the is there a reason why this like doesn't work.
elijah schaffer
You know what I mean?
That's crazy.
michael hennessey
What's the first name?
I'm trying mine.
elijah schaffer
Just can't even get the clip to work.
michael mendoza
It's a Richard.
connor pinesap estelle
I'm gonna add pretty short hair too.
elijah schaffer
Can you sign in on yours?
I'll just bookmark it.
We're on the same one.
unidentified
Just go to your bookmarks over there on the far left right there.
elijah schaffer
It says bookmarks.
Yeah, click on that.
unidentified
And then just go put that whole full screen.
michael mendoza
Let's go.
unidentified
Let's go.
michael mendoza
Interesting.
Interesting pose of Frozen.
connor pinesap estelle
You know, it's interesting.
Chris Bernade first brought this up when he like crashed down on the groipers and stuff like that.
unidentified
Go ahead.
connor pinesap estelle
Chris Bernay first brought up this clip and he's like Groiper General, by the way.
And it's like, okay, well, I never claimed to be a Groiper general.
And second of all, it's like, it's a white boy having fun.
Okay.
We're having fun out here.
We're having a good idea.
elijah schaffer
I don't want to take the guy seriously.
unidentified
Just mindset being a real and that's what I'm saying.
elijah schaffer
I feel really bad.
I feel bad.
That guy, I feel bad for him actually because he had a good job and got fired.
And then I reached out to him to try to help him because I felt bad because I thought, just like you, I thought he got reached out.
And then I ratioed him because he's like, and then, you know, he has this, like, he did this deep dive on like Nick Fuentes' like pedophile cult or something.
And he did like 10 pedophile scandals.
And somehow I got in there.
I like, I like, and then it was like, and also, like, he didn't even get the lore right.
Like, his research was so bad.
He took like slander and rumors about me, but like didn't get the rumors and slander accurate, which is my favorite part.
Like where it's like, it's like, and then, you know, he's, um, everyone knows he was had a like Christian Walker said he was in a gay relationship with a black man.
That's where that came from, the twist on it.
I was like, that's not the rumor.
You didn't get it right.
And it's like, and he's like a known pedophile.
And you're like, dude, listen, man, I am a journalist as well, not on the show, but I do write and do original research.
Do you realize that's illegal to make those kinds of claims?
And also, if you're going to just spread like goislop, like, like rumors, like, this is why all those, all those like anti-fuentes people, they get really, the Bible says something really important that I've always remembered.
And it's really hard not to be bitter towards people.
But there's only one sin that's all powerful and destructive, and it's bitterness.
It says that bitterness poisons the root of your tree.
It doesn't, it poisons the root.
And what I noticed about Fuentes is that people hate him and then they never stop hating him for the rest of their life.
unidentified
Yep.
connor pinesap estelle
They make him their entire obsession.
anna perez
It's just their brand.
elijah schaffer
And like me, like literally, that when that Jewish guy put out that stupid post that there's nothing in the video says that I was with what's the dysgenic looking guy's name again?
The brown guy?
unidentified
Oh, Ollie.
michael mendoza
Yeah, Ollie.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
There's a cut.
So this adult kid said something.
This Jew puts it out.
Do you know why that video was released?
Because that day, the day before, Fuentes announced that I was speaking at AFPAC, and that guy doesn't like Nick.
And so everybody who was speaking, they put out some like hit.
And it was like me just going to an event that Nick was at.
Now I'm called a pedophile.
And it's like, that's some serious hate.
connor pinesap estelle
That's some serious hate.
elijah schaffer
That's like actually serious hate.
And I asked my friend, like, well, should I sue him?
And he's like, no, that Jewish guy intentionally spread.
He has a lot of money.
He spreads lies and he wants you to get into a lawsuit.
He has a different litigation tactic.
And then he wants access to your chats and your logs to get to Fuentes and stuff.
I'm not going to say his name.
But no, no, I'm not going to say his name for litigation reasons.
No, we don't.
michael mendoza
I'll tell you.
elijah schaffer
Woman in a moment, I'm like, it's like literally, this guy's very litigious.
anna perez
No, I wasn't mentioned it.
And I mentioned it.
unidentified
Do you know?
elijah schaffer
Do you have any claims to make about him?
unidentified
And I was like, no, and I was like, Yeah, this isn't bad.
elijah schaffer
Oh, no, I'm totally, I'm totally joking.
I'm saying, like, it's like, do you want to accuse him of any crimes too?
No, no, but uh, but I was like, I don't even say anything bad about him because he's litigious, but I'm like, that's that's how much his haters hate him, that they set traps for people that don't know him.
It's that yet he's a yet hara trap to try to get in.
And like, to me, that's the bitterness thing of like, hey, if you don't like somebody, you've got to just let it go after a while.
You got to let it go.
And that's true.
That's to all these people that are obsessed with Trump, with Fuentes, with any of these people, they dedicate their whole life, Trump derangement syndrome.
It's like, it's like, hey, I don't like a lot of stuff he does either, but like, I'm not going to dedicate my whole life to just like hating Trump.
You know what I mean?
And during that first administration, there was a lot of that.
I also want to make sure, too, that people don't confuse, you know, being obsessed with Trump or Fuentes as the same thing as being obsessed with the Epstein list, because that's about trying to hold criminals accountable for a blackmail ring that controls our politicians.
So, Mark Levin, you're wrong.
Okay.
And the problem is, is the reason why we're trying to get the Epstein file list is because people like you are the ones who committed the crimes and blackmailed our politicians.
So if I want to find out about whether or not it's justifiable to pursue a criminal, I don't go to somebody who has vested interest in ensuring that criminal is not prosecuted.
You care more about Israel, Mark Levin.
You care more about keeping institutional power than you do about pedophiles receiving justice.
That is fucking gross.
I don't know how people listen to you.
I don't know how they're that retarded.
I do not know how they're able to take you seriously.
And the fact that Trump said today to go listen to Mark Levin.
michael mendoza
I was just going to pull out.
michael hennessey
It's like, hey, man, you know, you know what?
Hold on.
elijah schaffer
You know what?
You should go, just so you know, Meek Mill said we should stop caring about the Diddy case.
michael mendoza
And you're like, that's because they were banging.
elijah schaffer
That's because, yeah.
michael hennessey
That's the Trump post right there.
elijah schaffer
Come on, dude.
Goodness.
unidentified
Come on.
elijah schaffer
Anyway.
michael hennessey
And then I'll pull up the clip of Mark.
I have it here.
elijah schaffer
This is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
mark levin
We have a lot to run on, and you have a lot to run against, given the other party.
But I will tell you this: we better be united.
We better be strong.
We better be focused.
We better be articulate.
We can't waste our time on Epstein and other stuff that are going on here that some people want us to focus on.
I'm about to had it with all that stuff.
We better focus on who we are, what we're doing, where we want to take the country, and what they want to do to the country.
Mr. Speaker, God bless.
elijah schaffer
Pine, honestly, isn't it?
Does it ever infuriate you?
You said you're critical of Trump.
I don't, I mean, I know why Nick's critical.
I know that you're in that circle.
Is it the same reasons, or do you have your unique reasons?
connor pinesap estelle
It's the same reasons, relatively speaking, because I was able to tolerate a lot about him when it seemed like he was kind of forwarding our political goals as a whole, right?
Because for a while, I knew that he was never going to be like the based super far-right leader that we needed to completely clean up this country, but he kind of gave us an in in terms of like that political theory, right?
Um, I remember there's a writer who wrote a wonderful academic text called Not of This World.
It's about kind of like theocratic politics and like Christianity entering into especially American politics a lot more.
And he says that like Trump was kind of a Constantinian figure, like he entered politics.
He allowed a lot more like far-right ideals to kind of seep into American political theory, you know, past the Mitt Romneys and the John McCain's.
And in that way, kind of acted as a battering ram for what we really wanted.
Now it's like, I'm looking at someone like, I don't know, the lead singer Guns N' Roses outside of his heyday.
You know what I mean?
anna perez
We knew he was going to be a natural, we thought he was going to be a nationalist, but we knew he wasn't going to be conservative or right-wing, rather.
Meaning like, yeah, he was kind of more akin to probably Bill Clinton in terms of his politics, but he seemed to have sort of a nationalist rather America first agenda, meaning like he'll put the country first, but that's it.
Like that's all we needed from him.
And he couldn't even do that.
Like, and I think deportations are a good example of that or lack thereof.
elijah schaffer
Sorry, real fast.
Can you make sure to update the restream card?
Because we're going to like possibly lose the stream right now.
Or like, I don't know, after this, at least I think we have like an hour left to stream anyways.
But we got new credit cards.
So you got to update the file.
They're going to delete all of our recordings and shit.
I was just aside.
I just got an alert from them right now.
So that's why I brought that up.
michael mendoza
Also, we have some super chats to read.
Oh, can you read them?
And while you're bringing that up, actually, I want to just mention that we are up to $1,584 on Pine Saps AK Connors.
Bring it up here.
Let me round up real quick.
elijah schaffer
I just, yeah, we got it right.
Let me see if we can bring that in.
connor pinesap estelle
And I mean, I really want to thank everyone who's donated.
You know, this is not like just a like, oh, hey, I got canceled.
Here's some money or anything like that.
I really want to use this opportunity to kind of refocus, reshape, be sort of molded and tested like iron in the fire to be more about God.
And I think that's what this moment's going to be able to do.
And so I really thank you guys so much for helping me in this difficult time.
It really means a lot to me.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And I just sent it to Sarah.
Stock as well told her to share it on her page.
Maybe she will, but I'm going to send it to a few other people.
This is kind of where we got to come together, guys.
Like he said he, he said he, he believes in fascism, and then he got terminated over that, even though fascism saved El Salvador.
And Trump supports Bukele.
So, you know, it's kind of one of these things where it's like, you might not even believe in fascism.
It might turn you off.
I do want to talk later about the Jubilee stuff because I do have some criticisms from the overall debate.
Not necessarily just you, but I want to get some questions on like we were talking a little bit earlier.
I don't want to counter signal you because I don't think there's anything wrong with what you said.
Oh, but like we talked a little bit about it earlier.
I do want to get into some Jubilee stuff right now.
So I want to see, let's go ahead and, if we can, let's get into some cultural stuff, talk about this for a moment, and let's talk about the Jubilee episode, look at some clips and see what really happened.
Did the right wing do a good job?
Did we really convince minds?
Or did the left win?
Both sides say their side won.
There's only one truth, or maybe just like the Dinesh Fuentes interview, some people said it was a stalemate, right?
Some people said both sides won for their side.
What really happened here?
Let's get into it.
All right.
Before we talk about that, let's just get into some super chats here real quickly.
And at the end, by the way, if you give and donate to the fund, he'll be reading your names out and doing some thank yous as well, you know, for people on air.
So it's kind of cool.
If you're a Pine fan, like you just want to like, you know, you can write super chats in there too.
So you can go, you know, give money and write a little note and he'll read it at the end of the show.
A couple super chats here.
For, wow, for $100.
Let's go.
unidentified
Wow.
Let's go.
elijah schaffer
Where's the music?
We always take one article of clothing off just one person, but today I was smart.
I wore a jacket because I knew it was going to happen.
Because I love how Brayden is like, he doesn't even question.
He's like, all right.
anna perez
He knows.
elijah schaffer
The music starts.
He's like, wow, do I really have to do this?
connor pinesap estelle
He's taking the van man, rubbing it on his chest.
michael hennessey
That's what you guys want to see.
elijah schaffer
You sure?
connor pinesap estelle
It's like, all right.
You know, starts undoing his button.
elijah schaffer
It hasn't even, he doesn't even process.
He's like texting Homer.
Are you going to send it yet?
unidentified
Let's go.
elijah schaffer
We got the sweater on.
Thank you, Homer.
He said, win, rant.
And I don't know what rant that was.
Maybe it was the Mark Levin stuff.
Homer for the win.
I just hung out with him this weekend.
We got some cigars.
It was really, really nice.
It was a really, really good time.
A couple more.
Thank you so much for that, man.
It really is awesome.
It's like crazy how supportive he is.
He does it every night right now.
We don't expect it.
If you ever want to stop, we'll never be upset about it.
And we love you anyways, but like, dude, giving $100 a day.
He's not $150 a day.
It's like, it genuinely is helpful because honestly, like, even Pine's ticket was expensive to get some of these tickets are freaking expensive right now.
And it's like genuinely because of the super chat money, we were able to get your ticket.
So it's like, if you want to know how you're helping, I've like literally got your ticket.
So that's cool.
connor pinesap estelle
That means a lot to me.
elijah schaffer
Shout out.
He did it.
And because, yeah, believe it or not, we have to work on a budget.
And if a ticket's too expensive, we can't usually do it.
That being said, tech support SARS in $10 for a little few, yeah, I guess we just do a few air horns for the $10.
He said, sorry to hear about you losing your job.
Sent over $100.
Best of luck ahead.
I don't know if you want to say thank you.
connor pinesap estelle
Well, thank you so much.
That means a lot to me.
And I mean, all you guys, like, even if it was just $100 or whatever, like of the total donation, the fact that you've been so willing to help in this difficult time and all that, it really means a lot to me.
And, you know, despite kind of the persecution, I think what does stand out a lot more online is I feel like there's almost been a greater outpouring of support.
You know, like even as much as like the left has been kind of like railing on me or like I'm seeing clips from anywhere from Richard Hania to Medi is commentating on some of them again, and a couple other figures like I mean honestly, Harry Risen right, Harry Sisson, but I call him Harry Risen because I mean Bro Pole so I got to give him credit where credit's due.
You know they've been clamping down, but then there's been so many people that are like you went up there and and spoke my mind.
You went up there and you said what I needed to hear and I think that's always been my MO is I always wanted to be the unheard voice of young men.
Um, I wanted to be sort of somebody who you almost feel as if I grew up with you and I know your struggles and I know where you're coming from, and so that just means the world to me.
So thank you so much, brother.
elijah schaffer
Awesome man.
And we got a five dollar super chat as well from REAL America Media Network.
That said, question for PineSap with the last name Perez is Anna White or Brown Mendoza?
Feel free to weigh in after he answers.
unidentified
Oh my gosh, we go through this every time.
connor pinesap estelle
I mean, what's your heritage, what's your name?
anna perez
I'm Spanish and Portuguese and French and everybody thinks I'm like Mexican.
connor pinesap estelle
But I mean, you know listen, there's some swarthy in there, but I wouldn't say you're Mexican.
anna perez
Well yeah, I'll say like swarthy white sure yeah, that makes sense.
I could see that Elijah's like no, she.
connor pinesap estelle
Well, because Elijah's over here, he's got that like Nordic jeans going on, like he's sure, like he's gonna be kind of harsher about that.
anna perez
What's funny is he's actually darker than me right now.
michael hennessey
Oh, here we go, you are.
elijah schaffer
Hey Joey, you want to weigh in.
There we go, you want to weigh in, Joey.
The thing about Joey though, that I'll give him credit for, despite definitely being a Latino, is that he's got red hair.
So I would consider, like I would immediately say, you're white Latino, like you can tell.
You can tell by his heights, because he's seven foot five ladies, he's seven foot five no, but you can tell by his, by his proportions.
Like he's got a Latino build.
However, he's also very strongly this is not even a joke, that was not a joke.
He's got massive chest build, strong arms.
He's uh single, ready to mingle.
We're gonna try to pimp out Joey.
He's a really good looking guy.
But I can tell it's like, oh yeah, because you know Joey's wing woman.
anna perez
Yes, Joey's awesome.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, Joey's.
anna perez
If you're single, you should go for Joey.
I'm pointing as if you're not.
elijah schaffer
And genuinely, by the way, you can always email me if you find yourself to be attractive because he only likes attractive girls.
I'm being honest, you know, what guy doesn't.
But if you find yourself to be attractive and you're looking for a guy, he's highly educated.
He has a doctorate in physical therapy.
He's our editor here.
He's an extremely nice guy.
I'm just going to go right into the be honest.
He's got savings and he's got a nice car.
And he's a Catholic and devout Catholic since birth.
And so if you're a girl and that sounds interesting to you, and you're like under five, seven, five, six, if you're under five, seven, five, six, feel free to shoot me an email and I can always connect you guys on a DM.
I'm not joking.
anna perez
He's cool too.
He has aura.
He has aura.
And I'll vouch for him as a girl.
Like, he definitely has aura.
elijah schaffer
We work out all the time.
He works out like six days a week.
He's very in shape.
It's very, very good guy.
But that being said, no, I laugh because I would say, okay, he's white Latino, right?
You look at him.
That's like, that's white.
That's white Latino.
That's what it asks you.
Like, are you white?
He'd say, yes, but are you like Latino?
Yes.
Like, it's, there are white people in Latin country.
anna perez
Oh, that's what I've been saying.
elijah schaffer
Well, Hispanic, sorry, Hispanic, white and Hispanic.
connor pinesap estelle
I think they even have a term for it.
It's like Sangre Azul or something, like blue blood, because you have like blue eyes and you got kind of the whole thing.
elijah schaffer
There's a mix in there, Texas.
unidentified
Well, they know.
anna perez
I just heard like, what's the term?
There's like Castiza, Costizo, and Mestizo.
Like, that's the difference.
Castizo is like white Hispanic, and Mestizo is mixed.
So you'd be like native or something.
That's what makes them brown.
But like, if you don't have that, which is mostly like most Latin Americans do, but like if you don't have that and you're mainly Spanish, like then yeah, you're white.
elijah schaffer
Well, okay, we'll have to move on from that.
Farm friend Groiper said $5 in, said, need to lock in and secure the out pouch discount code.
Honestly, that's such an easy ad every time if we just like take an alp on send to save the code.
Well, check that out.
Also, why don't we create our own pouches?
We have a pharmaceutical license.
connor pinesap estelle
That'd be kind of sick.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And also, somebody gave you an idea to make money.
They said you should start an energy drink company called Chud Energy.
unidentified
That's the future of energy.
connor pinesap estelle
Yeah, why not?
elijah schaffer
And it's just a small boost of energy.
It's just a little energy for those that get anxiety from too much.
Also, $20 for the confetti and the air horns and the applause.
We love it.
Do you agree with Keith Wood's take on the debate style and that Pine Sap and Coke should have been more tactical?
We're going to talk about this stuff over on the locals.
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I would never tell you, go do and make sure you go invest.
But I am willing to just say, Hey, here's a company that wants to raise awareness and they're trying to fundraise and raise money to continue their mining efforts.
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And we know because we try to raise money too.
All right.
So, um, we'll start and then we'll go over so that it's interesting.
I'm going to ask you, did you see Keith Wood's uh uh response to you?
Because I'll read it on locals.
connor pinesap estelle
I would love to like read the full response.
I was definitely snippy towards him about it because I was just getting bombarded over and over.
And I did a yawn emoji, T-L-D-R.
Um, I think the reason I was, though, was it wasn't that I was necessarily just trying to be dismissive, but I think that I think what I disagreed with is when Medi was using that kind of rhetoric about fascist, Nazi, what have you.
Sure, I could have gotten into the minutiae and nuance of what that means.
But again, when they use that term, it doesn't words don't mean what they mean to the left, right?
They'll constantly use these sort of buzzwords or these catch-all phrases to lock you into sort of a definitional category and then use that to slander you.
And then you're kind of almost playing like a fly trying to get out of sticky tape, like trying to wiggle your way out of it, saying, Oh, no, I'm not, I'm not a fascist.
I'm an absolute monarchist with minarchist tendencies or whatever.
And they use that term not to say that you're like Mussolini or you're like any of these other leaders.
They use that term to basically denote you as you are someone who believes in authority, you are someone who believes in right-wing politics, you're someone who believes in virtue, and you want to enforce that on a societal scale.
And so, at that point, I said, You know what?
If he's going to just slander me like that, why am I going to cower?
Let me just, you know, bare out my chest.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so I want to all we're going to read that over on locals.
So, if you haven't joined our locals, we're putting it in the chat.
I will let you know for today for the first few minutes, it will be free.
So, if you check it out, uh, make sure you check it out.
And starting tomorrow, I have some codes.
We're going to be starting a free month as well.
Um, so if you want to join today, that's completely fine.
I'll still you'll still be able to put in the code.
Even if you sign up, it'll give you an extra free month as well.
Even if you sign up today, so sign up today, it's really helpful.
And you'll, once you're in, you'll skip the code and it'll give you an extra month on your subscription.
But I encourage you guys to join because, as someone said, they're like, someone in the chat's like, Don't trust any political commentator that sells you stuff.
That's actually so stupid because all you need to know is you just have to ask the commentator this: Are there clauses in any of their agreements that your words could be influenced by the advertiser?
And the answer is no, which is why you don't see us advertising Apple AirPods and Coca-Cola.
unidentified
Right?
elijah schaffer
You know, we have pair with advertisers that literally explicitly, it's one of our rules: you cannot influence what we say.
And so, a lot of people won't work with us.
And it's really, really hard to run an ethical company like that.
But when you go around trying to undermine people and like spread, you know, you know, lies or you can't trust these people, that's like actually stupid because like the Catholic Church sells Bibles.
So, what you can't trust the priests, like it's like, it's kind of like a stupid thing.
The question is, if they were, you know, profiting and selling you the Book of Mormon, maybe you shouldn't trust them.
So, if we're selling you things that go against our values, then that's true.
You know, if we're like, and by the way, here's abortion pills.
You'd be like, okay, well, that's these guys are full of shit.
But if it's just like investing and you know, lotion, you guys use a lot of lotion.
You're a male audience, 18 to 25.
It's true, too much.
So, make sure you check it out.
Anyway, we're going to head over to ElijahSchaefer.locals.com.
Shout out to the rest of you guys watching on YouTube.
If you're watching on YouTube, if you're watching there, we're going to be there.
And before we go, as always, PinSap is going to read a thank you to the people and also tell us how they can find and follow you.
connor pinesap estelle
Absolutely.
I just want to say thank you for the overwhelming support.
Thank you guys.
Honestly, more than money, more than any of that, just the overwhelming love that you have shown me.
It really has mattered a lot to me.
And if you want to see more content, you can follow me at Pinesap3 on Instagram.
You can follow FieldsGuy on Twitter, or you can follow my Rumble, which is Pinesap.
And I'm going to be starting, I'm going to start making YouTube content again, more video formats.
So I also have a YouTube channel as well.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And then Anna, how can they find and follow you?
anna perez
You can find me at wrongthinkAna underscore on Twitter and at wrongthinkAna underscore on Instagram as well.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and it's on the screen.
And by the way, this is just a side note.
Our audio is growing at a rate that I like actually am really shocked.
We never even mentioned that we have an audio podcast.
I think it's still up as the Rift report, right?
michael mendoza
No, I fixed it.
elijah schaffer
Let's go.
I didn't even know you did.
Yeah, so look at the audio.
michael mendoza
It's on screen.
elijah schaffer
Oh, I didn't know we had that.
michael mendoza
It was never used.
connor pinesap estelle
Yeah, I know.
elijah schaffer
Just like because we developed the show, just put it up randomly on like as we're talking.
I don't have any like really, if we put up like two or three times on a show, we are on audio and like we're up to like several hundred every episode on there, which is like pretty cool.
And I mean that genuinely because audio is cool because you can set it up to automatically download to your phone.
And that's a huge reason why we invest in good sound quality because we want these are very expensive.
The boards, everything we do so that we don't pick up anyone else in the mics.
It's all really expensive stuff.
And we do it particularly for audio.
And this is a brand new show.
And to be there after six weeks, you guys, I'm so happy for all of you guys watching.
So shout out to our audio only listeners reminding you very soon.
No one's left an audio, a review, but the way that we'll be ending every show as we go is reading one of the reviews.
So it's like a free super chat.
You go into the audio, leave a review, and we'll read it on air.
And it doesn't have to be a review of the show.
Just leave a five-star and check it out.
Snowflake, how can they find and follow you?
unidentified
All right.
michael hennessey
You can find me at Snowflake underscore news.
I'm on Instagram as well as X. Come check it out.
I'd really appreciate it.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
And go into the gifts and go.
I don't know if you're able to, I don't know if you're just able to see this here.
You can bring it up on, you can just bring it up on the screen so he can read them off here.
Let me see if I can zoom in.
Okay.
So if you just want to, we'll just go through and just thank these people as well.
Well, you can read the notes there if you want to read them.
connor pinesap estelle
Real American Media, thank you so much.
Hope this helps, brother.
God bless.
God bless you too.
Anonymous Giver said, quite frankly, we love fascists.
I appreciate it.
Elijah said, we love you, man.
Hey, Elijah, I love you too, buddy.
Cody, $100 said, I saw you in Elijah's show.
Good luck, man.
I hope things work out for you.
Slickwick, $50.
elijah schaffer
Let me see if we have, do we have more?
unidentified
Let me see.
elijah schaffer
Is that most recent?
Let's just go all, right?
Can you not like read all of them?
michael mendoza
I guess.
That's weird.
elijah schaffer
Oh, wait.
Yeah, here's some more.
Here's some more.
unidentified
Okay.
connor pinesap estelle
Homer Jay Fuente's Fight Like Hell.
elijah schaffer
That's great.
michael hennessey
I mean, hey, that's a funny You pick there, too.
elijah schaffer
That's a funny interesting number, Homer.
michael hennessey
Homer chills that one.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we got right here.
connor pinesap estelle
Hi, Pinesap.
It's Anonymous Giver sent $150.
He said, Hi, Pinesap.
It's a Catholic monarchist from X.
I really enjoyed your segment in the Jubilee debate, but had no idea you got fired.
Because of that, I will contribute.
I hope you find work again soon.
Pinesap the Goat, $100, Cody.
unidentified
Yeah, here you go.
connor pinesap estelle
Sorry, thank you for speaking your mind brighter.
Pastures ahead.
Augustine, 99.
Fake sell, sir, but God bless praying for you.
I really appreciate that, brother.
$50.
Keep up the good work.
Stay strong.
And God bless you, brother.
elijah schaffer
Is it Billy?
We know Billy.
Billy's our mod on YouTube.
Is it Billy Hades or Hates?
michael mendoza
I figured it was Hades.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Because that's crazy last name.
Yeah.
He's Orthodox.
We go to Catholic Church together, though, because both of our wives want to go to Catholic Church.
So that's actually.
Here's someone else, too.
We got a few more.
Gonna put it up.
We still have some more.
connor pinesap estelle
Let's see.
Gloiper one sent $1 or not $1.
He sent $50.
My goodness.
Love you, big guy.
Great work on Jupyter EIC.
Big things happening in your future.
Slickwick, $50.
Tux, $34.
Love you, buddy.
Appreciate you standing up for Christ.
What you believe in.
God bless.
Anonymous Giver, $25.
God bless you, brother.
Anonymous Giver, $25.
Going to pray a rosary for you.
Real American media gotcha.
Um Eric Winters 20, America first.
Uh, Ryan Lee, 20 sorry to hear that brother.
Keep pushing the faith and being a voice in the in these times.
Uh, anonymous giver, ten dollars, Ave Maria brother.
Uh, anonymous giver, love you, Sappy Tribunus.
Saw you on x.
Uh, you were shared with me and my group of friends as a fellow Catholic.
We got your back.
Wish I could give more.
Hey, anything counts honestly.
10 from Catholic Quebecois.
Um, love you, buddy.
unidentified
I really butchered it all the time.
elijah schaffer
And then um yeah well, we'll read the more tomorrow.
So guys, I mean the super chats are really awesome, you know, and I thank you, and it's like that's crazy.
Homers, like giving to the show, giving back.
I know not all of you guys can give, so I just want to remind you.
Um, if you join the locals, it's like six bucks a month, I think, or something like that, and you can ask him questions.
So if people ask serious questions I do answer them, but half the time it's just you guys posting swastikas and stuff like that.
So it's like, also, remember there are Normies that don't enjoy that.
So, you know, do whatever you want on locals, I don't care, i'm not gonna police you, but you know, remember that we are trying to build a community and you can join the discord there.
Anyway uh, we'll be right back.
Make sure you follow Mike Mendoza at uh, the Mendoza Report.com or at Mikemendoza JPG on X. You can follow me at Elijah Schaefer.
We'll be right back.
We're talking about the Jubilee episode on locals only.
Links in the chat.
If you're watching on Rumble, you just click the follow button.
We'll see you all over there.
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