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We have a great show for you today.
We are talking about this issue of Israel and whether or not Christians are called to support the modern day UN created secular state of Israel that of course we are getting involved in all these foreign wars for and we are trying to decide whether or not America should keep sending money overseas or should keep supporting them politically or militarily with their war with Gaza.
It's been such a hot topic, such a cause for division among Christians and really just among conservatives as a whole.
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But our guest today, I'm super excited about.
His name is Dr. Taylor Marshall.
He's been a huge influence on me, and he's a huge influence on this topic of the heresy of dispensationalism.
Dispensationalism.
Thanks so much for joining me, Dr. Taylor Marshall.
I know you're kind of an expert on this topic of Israel.
I know for me, when I was looking into the Catholic faith, I watched a ton of your YouTube videos to better understand Catholic theology.
And I think you're probably one of the clearest voices in the online Catholic world right now when it comes to this issue of Israel and dispensationalism, especially with everything.
going on, of course, with this war with Iran.
And there's just a lot of confusion for a lot of Christians out there.
But I have a few questions about this because I think I want to do this interview because I think a lot of Catholics understand the heresy of dispensationalism, but I kind of want Christians out there to understand you don't even have to be Catholic to understand that it's just completely unbiblical and it doesn't really make any sense at all.
So that was kind of the main reason I want to talk to you.
Congratulations on your conversion to the Catholic Church.
That was exciting to watch.
And yeah, dispensationalism is, I've been kind of sounding the alarm on dispensationalism.
I used to be a Protestant before I became a Catholic.
So I was very familiar with dispensationalism.
And I think in college, you know, this is before the internet.
I remember asking people, is there a book that has dispensationalism versus covenant theology?
And I don't seem to know what that was.
But now it's become really important and people are exposing it for what it is.
So for those not familiar, dispensationalism was started by a man named Darby in England in the 1800s, mid-1800s.
He basically said that God has two plans, two dispensations.
He has a dispensation or plan, which is plan A for Israel.
And then he has a backup plan, which is plan B, which is for the church and for the Gentiles.
And unfortunately, what this does is, is it radically divides the Bible into Old Testament and New Testament, where as Catholics and Eastern Orthodox and even historic Protestants, they see Jesus Christ in the New Testament and the church and the sacraments fulfilling all the previous covenants, the covenant with Adam, Noah, Moses, David, and then up with the new and everlasting covenant with Jesus Christ, the Lord and Savior, Son of God.
And so what that did is it kind of bifurcates the Bible and then it gives God two peoples.
He has two wives.
He has two spouses.
He's got Israel and he's got the church.
And the way the old dispensationalists talked about this, and this came in through a Bible that was very popular in America called the Schofield Reference Bible.
It was published by a man named Cyrus Schofield.
He was an alcoholic.
He was a drunk.
He was convicted for embezzlement, misappropriating campaign funds.
He was in politics and he was shamefully rejected.
And somehow he produced this Bible, allegedly with the help of a Jewish Zionist, that puts his commentary around the Bible commentary.
So when people, Protestants are reading it, they're sort of blending Schofield's thoughts with the text of the Bible.
It's confusing.
And he very much promotes this idea of two covenants, two people of God, Israel and church.
And unfortunately, it became very popular in the American context, especially in the South for evangelical Protestants.
And then in 1948, when Israel was created after World War II, all of these dispensationalists were like, aha, this proves this theology.
Israel now exists again.
God is bringing back his second people.
And what we need to do is, is we need to send money to them.
We need to send military assistance.
And ultimately, our job as Christians is to help God get back on plan A, the original dispensation, and God's going to rapture us out, which no Christians have ever believed.
And he's going to go back to plan A.
And so we Gentile Christians, all we should be doing is helping the other people of God, which is Israel.
And of course, this goes contrary to everything in historic Christianity, which sees Christians as the chosen people, as the extension and fulfillment of Israel.
So I know that was a lot there.
That was a lot of theology, but I think that's good background of what dispensationalism is.
And then you can see from what I just said, you've got people like Ted Cruz and Republican senators.
We have to send missiles and jets and military assistance to Israel because the Bible says so.
And Tucker Carlson called out Senator Ted Cruz on that recently.
He's like, wait, the Bible says that we have to help the government of Benjamin, not Nanyahu.
I mean, I know a lot of people in my own life, because obviously I come from a Protestant background, so believe in dispensationalism.
And one of the things that I hear a lot is, it does feel like it's a lot of emotional arguments, to be honest, because of course, this is just what people grew up hearing over and over again.
So they have, they feel like they have all these emotional ties to the land of Israel.
And one of the things I hear is God did not break his promises to the Jewish people.
But in theology, we talk about the covenants as bilateral.
That means there's two parties.
There's party A, there's party B. If we were in a covenant or a contract, it'd be Sarah and Taylor.
And if it was a business contract, there'd be certain terms and it can be ruptured.
And as we see in the Old Testament, beginning with Moses, they're worshiping the golden calf.
And then after that, they're worshiping false gods.
Israel, the people of God, are sacrificing their children in fire to Moch.
They're committing adultery.
They're taking foreign wives.
They're worshiping the Canaanite gods.
And time and time again, God sends the prophets, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, the 12 minor prophets.
And they're kind of like, when you read the scriptures, the prophets are, they're like lawyers.
They enter into the courtroom and they're appealing.
They're saying this deal, this covenant has been broken.
And here are the terms of restoration.
It's repentance.
It's faith.
Put away your idols.
Stop sacrificing your children to Moch.
And sometimes the people of Israel repent and come back, but most of the time and usually they did not.
And time and time again, you hear the prophet saying in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, because you are unfaithful to the covenant, you are being expelled from the holy land.
It is one of the most common motifs in the entire Old Testament.
It's prophesied in Deuteronomy.
And from that, you see that the gift of that real estate to the people of Israel is a conditional real estate gift based on fidelity.
And so the idea that, you know, you get to live in this property, you can trash it.
You can break the terms.
You can deface it.
You can stop paying the bills.
And then when they come to evict you, like, you can't evict me.
This is my place.
That's not how reality works.
And that's not how God works.
And you see in the gospels in Matthew 24, 25, Jesus Christ is saying to the people of Israel, he's lamenting, he's saying, you know, I wanted to gather y'all together as hen, as a hen gathers her chicks, but you were unwilling.
You rejected the presence, the coming of the Messiah.
And then he says, and for that reason, this whole place is going to be destroyed.
Jerusalem will be leveled.
You will be evicted again from the land.
The temple will be destroyed.
The priesthood will come to an end.
Basically, all the terms in the Old Testament are going to be eradicated because you did not recognize the coming of the Davidic Messianic king.
Jewish people don't like to hear that.
Dispensationalists don't like to hear that.
They'll say that's anti-Semitic.
You hate Jews, et cetera.
But it's in the text of scripture that the gift of the land is based on fidelity to the covenants of God.
And if you reject the Son of God, the Messianic king, the descendant of David, that means that you don't have a right to the land anymore.
And that's, again, that's the historic Christian teaching.
Everyone will say, oh, that was anti-Semitism.
You know, people were hating on the Jews.
But if you read the Old Testament, even if you don't read the New Testament, if you read the Old Testament, that is the deal.
That is the covenant.
And so the idea that the current secular state of Israel, which does not bear any of the marks of the people of God constituted by Moses in Deuteronomy, nothing.
They have nothing, nothing from Deuteronomy, except they have the name Israel.
They have the name Israel.
Nothing else is there, that they have a unilateral, unconditional right to that land no matter what, and they get to bomb everyone in perpetuity is completely false.
It's completely wrong.
And unfortunately, because of Darby and because of the Schofield Bible and because of a lot of Bible churches have gotten into dispensational theology, they are maintaining this Christianized version of Zionism.
And that's the theological problem that's leading to political problems.
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Yeah, I mean, it is kind of crazy that so many people believe this.
And it's also very uniquely American theology, too.
Obviously, I don't think there's that many Christians in other countries who are passionate dispensationalists.
And I was going to ask, how much of a role did televangelists play in this?
Because I think the boomer generation Really, the kind of just this theology kind of just really hit them hard, probably makes sense because obviously, after World War II, that's when the state of Israel started to become created again and everything.
And obviously, at that same time, the Boomer generation, it's like the TV, they were raised by the TV, basically, and raised by a lot of these televangelists.
Do you think that probably plays a part in why so many of them believe this?
The televangelists, the charismatic and Pentecostal movement has 100% embraced dispensationalism.
They are preaching the rapture and give money to Israel practically every Sunday.
It's very much part of their identity.
And the reason for that is, you know, you and I are Catholics.
We actually look back over the past 2000 years and we see God's people visibly present on earth with a visible structure, with a hierarchy, with the papacy, with bishops, with sacraments, with apostolic succession.
The reality that Jesus Christ founded, which is the church in AD 33, has never stopped existing and exists today.
I was in Rome last week.
I saw Pope Leo.
It's there.
All the martyrs, all the relics, all the churches, it's all in continuity.
If you're a charismatic or if you're a Mormon or you're an evangelical, you don't look at history like that.
You see, oh, the early church, they were martyrs and they were holy.
And then something happened around Constantine, and then there's no Christians or very little Christians on earth.
And then Martin Luther came along and we had the Reformation and people had the real gospel and started reading the Bible again.
And then my favorite, you know, whatever your favorite denomination is, whether it's Methodist or, you know, Assembly of God, eventually that got created and we're back.
And so in their mind, they don't see a visible institution that goes back to Christ.
And so their default is to say, well, the visible institution would be biblical Israel.
And I see the name Israel on a map.
And therefore, that is what I read in the Bible.
And that's just, that's a false identity, you know, that they're making.
But also, like, to your point, the televangelists and the use of television, but also, I mean, I'm going to get a little bit tinfoil hat here.
Go ahead.
I don't think it's controversial anymore to say that in American politics, particularly since World War II, there has been an influence of Judaic thought and Judaic policy and campaigning in the American political discourse.
You look at APAC, a lot more people, Tucker Carlson's been talking about this.
Of course, Candace Owens has been talking about it.
But other, even other Jews are saying, yeah, there's a disproportionate amount of funding, campaigning, and even just representation, not only in politics, but in media, Hollywood, etc.
And so when you kind of factor that in, you realize it's a perfect storm.
You have this theology that's sort of repackaged for Christians to promote Zionism called dispensationalism.
And then you have this sort of secular push, a secular religion in a way that is very much molded, informed, and promoted by powerful, wealthy Jewish people in the media, politics, and entertainment.
Okay, so you can take your tinfoil hat off, but I think those are the two reasons why, especially since the 70s and 80s, we've seen just an explosion in dispensational heresy.
It's obviously, I think this is one of those things maybe 10 years ago, it's just like a, it could be something that seems just like a slight theological difference you have with someone or doesn't seem to hold that much weight or there's, you know, the consequences of it seems pretty small.
But now it's like, obviously, just over this past week, everything with this war, we're seeing this huge divide in the right wing and among Christians, it's like, are we going to support Israel no matter what?
Or are we going to go and send Americans to die for Israel in the Middle East?
But not only that, I was kind of, I was thinking about this, you know, as all of this started and kind of has you started to think about the end times and everything.
And, you know, the book of Revelations, it's like, oh my gosh, is this the rumors of wars and all this stuff?
And I was thinking about the consequences of dispensationalism on Christians who my worry is, obviously, as Catholics, we know that the Antichrist will rule from Jerusalem after the temple is rebuilt, which to me, I'm like, it looks like it could happen soon.
You know what I mean?
With everything going on right now, who knows?
It could happen in our lifetime.
And my worry is that the evangelicals would fall for this Antichrist, essentially, because they don't, I don't know if they would think it's the second coming of Christ or I don't know.
Is that a worry you share or do you see that happening?
I mean, when I wake up and I read the stories and the bombings in Iran and Israel and Gaza, you know, the early church fathers, based on the book of Daniel, based on the statements of Jesus Christ, based on a few statements by St. Paul the Apostle, and then also the book of the apocalypse, which people call the Revelation, it's very clear that the Antichrist will reign from what we call the Holy Land,
from Jerusalem, and he will be Jewish.
You know, Christ says that another will come in his own name and you will accept him to the Jews, and yet you reject me.
That's in John's gospel.
If the Antichrist is a false Messiah and he's from China or Argentina, the Jewish people are not going to say you're the Messiah, right?
The Messiah is a Jewish concept.
He is a Jewish person.
So the Antichrist, 100% of the church fathers, and I wrote a best-selling book a couple of years ago called Antichrist and Apocalypse.
And I assemble every single early church father quotation, every commentary for basically 2,000 years, even Protestants all agree that the Antichrist will be Jewish.
He will reign from Jerusalem.
He will deceive the nations.
And he will present himself as the fulfillment of the Old Testament.
And part of his rhetoric is going to be, I have reestablished biblical Israel.
All the prophets promised the magnification, right?
The protection of Israel.
And I have achieved that ergo.
Therefore, I am the Davidic king.
And people are going to fall for it.
So when you see Christ warning that even Christians are going to be deceived at the end time, and you see this theology.
We have a figure who comes around and somehow reestablishes.
And what they're doing in Gaza is they're trying to push out the border to original borders.
They're like, these are our borders in the Bible.
We're pushing out.
And so if we need to kill children and women and non-combatants in order to push out to that border, we're going to do it because we have a biblical mandate.
And if there's eventually a man who is handsome and likable and charismatic and miraculous and can somehow reestablish Israel and in the process, reestablish world peace, right?
That's part of the Antichrist regime.
Everyone's going to be like, finally, the guy came and he solved all the problems.
Peace in the Middle East.
You know, they've been saying that at the Grammys for decades now.
They're going to fall down.
They're going to worship this man.
And when that happens, that's the Antichrist, folks.
Be ready because it's going to be a time of tribulation.
And one of the signs that he, that the Antichrist will perform is he will rebuild the temple on the temple mount.
And the reason that that's bad and that's sacrilegious is Jesus says, I am the temple.
Remember, Sarah said, destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days.
And he was talking about himself.
We worship God by entering into Jesus Christ.
We enter the temple of his body.
And through baptism, which is a temple purification rite in the Old Testament, through that baptism, we are cleaned and able to enter into the temple of God, which is Jesus Christ.
And so by building a new temple, you are denying that Jesus Christ is the temple, that he is the source of life, that he is God incarnate.
And so, and what's crazy, Sarah, is a lot of these evangelical dispensationalists, they're like, we need to rebuild the temple.
But I was just out an hour ago with all my red heifers and their red mamas.
And I have red Angus is what I raise.
Okay, cool.
And people always joke like, oh, you're going to sell these to Israel.
No, they're going to stay here in Texas.
They're going to be rabbis and sirloins and hamburger meat.
But that's, they want to get a red heifer because part of that plan is, and I was on Tim Poole talking about this.
He's really interested in the red heifer.
Oh, really?
And part of the liturgy of consecrating the temple in Jerusalem was the sacrifice of a perfect red heifer.
And for people that know, heifer is basically like a virgin cow.
A heifer is a calf, a female calf that's never had a baby, never had a calf.
That's what a heifer is.
So it's a young red female.
And so they want to have a perfect red heifer with every single hair on the body of that heifer that's red.
And I think my red heifers, I look at them, you know, occasionally you'll see like a white hair or black hair.
So mine, mine probably aren't good enough for the synagogue.
But they want to sacrifice the red heifer.
And by doing that, they are able to lay the foundation and build the temple that we believe would be the temple of the Antichrist.
And St. Paul says that the man of sin who is the Antichrist will set himself up as God in the temple.
So in the temple where there was the Holy of Holies, there was the Ark of the Covenant with the Ten Commandments in it.
Apparently what's going to happen is since that Ark of the Covenant is lost, or maybe they'll find it and bring it back, but he will enthrone himself there as the Messiah, as the Son of God, and people are going to worship him in the temple.
I mean, Sarah, you're a recent convert to Catholicism.
And, you know, as a Protestant, there's a lot of theology there.
And I don't think when I was a Protestant, I understood that Jesus was the temple.
And if he is the temple, that means that in the body of Christ, and Paul says the body of Christ is the church.
In the body of Christ, there is sacrifice.
There is purification rites like baptism and confession.
The sacrifice is the Holy Eucharist, the holy sacrifice of the mass.
There is a new priesthood, a new testament priesthood of bishops, priests, deacons, and holy orders.
All of that exists.
And so you really see that in Jesus Christ is the fullness, not only of the covenant with David, but also the covenant with Moses and Abraham, even with Noah and Adam.
It's the new and everlasting covenant.
It's the fulfillment of all things.
And if you're a Protestant, you don't have the Eucharistic sacrifice of the Mass.
You don't have real ex operae operato sacraments.
You don't have the liturgy.
You don't have the hierarchy.
You have none of that.
Really, the only experience that you have as an evangelical Protestant of those realities is what you've read in the book of Leviticus.
Because at church, there's not an altar at the front.
There's a stage with lights, maybe a smoke machine, drum kit, guitars, bass, you know, a cute girl on a microphone.
And then, you know, a preacher who, you know, walks around with his mic and has jokes and funny things.
And you get, there's no sacrament.
There's a snackrament.
You get a Starbucks or a copy.
You kind of enjoy yourself, but you're not experiencing worship as Christian, as Catholics have or Eastern Orthodox have for 2,000 years.
You're broken off from that.
So I think there's a natural longing in the Christian soul for liturgy and for the reverence that's there, but they don't have it.
And so their only exposure to it is the book of Leviticus, the book of Numbers.
And they're like, yeah, let's rebuild that.
You know, let's go to Jerusalem.
Let's kill the red heifer.
We'll get a red heifer from Texas and we'll sacrifice it and we'll rebuild it.
And then we'll be living in the Bible times again.
In reality, what you're doing is you're denying Jesus Christ when you build the temple.
You're saying he's not the temple.
Instead of having a temple, which is the word made flesh, the word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
The fullness of the deity is in Jesus Christ because he is the only begotten Son of God, consubstantial with the Father.
And from him and the Father proceed the Holy Spirit.
That's the Trinitarian Nicene Creed reality.
You don't have that and you go and you make a temple made out of bricks or stone and you're like, this is it.
No, I mean, Martin Luther wouldn't have believed this.
John Calvin, Olrug Zwingli, you know, any of those 1500s reformers, Thomas Kramner, none of these guys believed that.
They believed that the church, and they had a dysfunctional understanding of what the church was as Protestants, but even they believe that the church is the new Israel.
It's the people of God.
It's the chosen people.
And the Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and Martin Luther and John Calvin, the medievals, Thomas Aquinas, Bonaventure, they all taught that at the end, the Jews, through the persecution of the Antichrist, will have a massive conversion to Jesus Christ and will be baptized.
That's, I think, you know, we share that with the Orthodox, the Protestants, and I think even the Dispensationalists have that understanding.
It's just that they believe that God's going to be done with the Gentiles and rapture them out and then deal with the Jews.
Whereas we believe that we are all going to be together on earth and those who are faithful to Christ are going to suffer.
And many of the church fathers and many of the mystics say that the martyrs in those last seven or three and a half years, those martyrdoms will be more glorious, more painful, more disgusting.
I mean, more graphic than any of the martyrs, martyrdoms of the last 2,000 years.
And I think that kind of coincides too with a lot of evangelicals or not a lot, but I don't know how common it is, but a lot of people believe that the Catholic Church is the Antichrist.
So that actually comes from Martin Luther and John Calvin.
So historically, yeah, they didn't think that the Antichrist was Jewish.
They thought the Antichrist was Italian, that he was the Pope.
And the reason for that is they, historically, the Antichrist is, I mean, John says there's many Antichrists, but there's a capital A singular Antichrist at the end of time.
That's an important clarification.
But Martin Luther, and I cover this in my book, Antichrist and Apocalypse, and the Lutherans and the Calvinists, they said that the Catholic Church was wrong in teaching that the Antichrist was one man at the end of time.
They said the Antichrist was a perpetual institution in the church, and they identified the Antichrist with the succession of popes.
But if you hold that theory, and I kind of show where they contradict themselves in the book Antichrist and Apocalypse, because so many of the prophecies and so many of the things in Daniel and the book of the apocalypse, the book of Revelation, it doesn't work if you have a line of popes that's like 200 years long or 200 popes long.
Like it's really hard to like interpret the passages about the beast and the false prophet if it's been going on for so many centuries.
I think Martin Luther was just really pissed at the pope and he was like, he kind of squeezed that theology in there, but it really doesn't work.
And honestly, most modern day Lutherans and most modern day Calvinists don't hold that because it is hard to biblically interpret the papacy as the Antichrist.
Yeah, I don't think it's that common, but it's weird.
I was at a turning point USA conference and someone was standing on the corner giving out books and the whole book was just like this conspiracy that the Catholic Church is evil and that the Vatican is like the temple of the Antichrist and all this stuff.
And I was like, do people actually believe this?
I don't know.
Even when I was a Protestant, I never saw the Vatican as like this evil institution, but it's weird because a lot of them really do believe that.
And undoubtedly, I think as Catholics, we would admit there have been bad popes, there have been scandals, there's been sexual abuse, there's been embezzlement.
There have been bad things in the Catholic Church.
A lot of Protestants are always amazed when I, as a Catholic, say that.
They're like, wait, you admit that?
It's like, yeah, it's obvious.
And they're like, well, why are you Catholic?
And I was like, because just because Judas Iscariot exists doesn't mean I leave Jesus Christ.
Like Jesus said, there will be false prophets among you.
He says there will be wolves in sheep's clothing.
So he said it was going.
He said there's going to be scandals in the church.
He said there's going to be false disciples.
So, you know, that is true, but we also have the saints as well.
So, you know, no Catholic claims that every member of the Catholic Church and every clergyman and every bishop and every cardinal and every pope is a beautiful, perfect saint.
And they're just living in the grace of God for 2,000 years.
We acknowledge that men have abused their office and have abused the church, but that doesn't make it wrong.
Just like in the Old Testament, you know, that's one of the things that evangelicals I find puzzling.
You know, they say, well, that was Israel.
That was Israel all the way through that whole period.
And you're like, yeah, but they had bad high priests, bad priests, bad kings, scandals, and none of them in the Old Testament are like, hey, you guys are evil.
I'm going to go down the street and start, you know, second church of Israel and start a new Israel.
And then someone's like, no, we're going to start a new Israel.
No, there was one Israel.
It had corruption.
It had bad people in it, but you stayed in the true Israel.
The church is the new Israel.
Yes, it has bad priests.
Yes, it has corruption, but you don't go start your new, you know, grace freedom Bible church and start over every 10 years.
Yeah, I think kind of the main point is just to stay vigilant when it comes to these things.
It's actually search for the truth and to try to be aware.
You know, if we are in the end times, you kind of want to be aware of who the Antichrist is and make sure you're not believing any heresies because you don't want to end up worshiping him.
Looks like it'll be either next month or in the month after.
It's called Christian Patriot: 12 Steps to Create One Nation Under God.
It actually touches on a lot of what we talked about today.
I mean, I just look around and there's just so much degeneracy in America.
And you see the secular left has taken up the vacuum in the public square.
You know, in America, we talk about this wall of separation of church and state.
And like, don't bring your faith into the public square.
But what they've done is they've created their own secular religion.
They're in the libraries reading to your kids.
They're having parades in the street.
They have their own experts, their own clergy, their own hierarchy.
They will excommunicate you with their own inquisition.
That's like the cancel culture.
So all the notes of a religion, they have their own saints' days and, you know, everything a religion has, they have, but they say, oh, we're not a religion.
And yet they impose their beliefs on us every single day in all the institutions through film, TV, college, public school, politics, et cetera.
So, you know, the first part of the book is, what is the history of Christians in politics?
And how has that been understood?
And how have Christians been successful?
Christians have, I think the numbers are around 100.
There's about 100 nations in history who have declared themselves to be Christian nations.
England is a great example of that.
And that was the norm.
Christians always sought for nations to recognize Jesus Christ.
Poland, as you may know, has declared Jesus Christ the king of Poland and the Blessed Virgin Mary as the queen of Poland.
They make these acts of respect and honor of Christian principles.
And that's what Christians have been doing for 2000 years.
And unfortunately, with the the influx of secularism and modernism and post-Christian culture and degeneracy and all the degenerate sexual practice we see and the attack on marriage, we've lost a lot of our footing.
And so this book gives 12 examples, 12 steps on how we can ourselves be converted.
That's the first step, but also define and preserve marriage, protect and extend families.
And I give examples of countries like Poland and Hungary and other places that are making measures in their tax code and their policies to protect and promote marriage and the birth and rearing of children.
We talk about birth rates.
I mean, you might know this, Sarah, but a lot of European countries are at 1.3, 1.4, 1.6 children per person.
That's called endangered species, Sarah.
Like you cannot have a birth rate of 1.3 in places like Spain or Greece and expect that culture to survive.
The only way that culture survives is if you import Muslims who are having a birth rate of 2.9 or 3.
If, if next year my cows were giving birth to calves at half the rate, and then the next year, you know, 10% of the rate.
And then I wouldn't just be like smoking a cigar on the porch being like, well, that's weird.
I would be trying to figure out why are my cows not conceiving calves?
Like that's losing money.
That means there's something, there's, there's something in the water, there's something in the fields, there's a toxin.
Something is happening because in nature, there is a natural cycle and progress of conception and of raising and the next generation.
And it's been that way for humanity until really the advent of the birth control pill and legalized abortion and feminism.
So that's a big part of the book.
I talk about a foreign policy, about how we should be assisting and helping countries like Nigeria, where Christians are being slaughtered over the weekend.
I think 100 Nigerians were killed.
Many Christians were killed over the weekend in Syria.
We should be giving, forget Israel.
We should be giving military aid and assistance to these Christians who are being slaughtered by Muslims on a weekly basis.
So as Christians, we need to rethink how are we using our tax money?
How are we using our military?
Are we actually helping Christians who are being slaughtered, or are we just dumping money in Israel and saying, and they just break the ceasefire?
And the whole thing is kind of ridiculous.
If we were truly Christian in the way we thought about our politics, our foreign policy, and then also our philosophy on just war, we have a Christian tradition of just war going back to the Bible, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas.
So the whole book is 12 steps, 12 chapters to reassess politics using the glasses, using the lens of Christianity, natural law, the Bible, and challenging people to take politics into a Christian direction.
I know MAGA is still popular, conservativism, but what are we conserving?
A Christian majority nation like America should have Christian laws, Christian culture.
They freak out.
Like, no, no, no, no, that's fascist.
That's racist.
And they can't take it.
And they'll accept that for Jews and Muslims.
But if you say, well, Christians should also have, if they're Christian majority, they should have Christian norms, Christian culture, Christian society, Christian landmarks.
And people will accept that.
And so this book, I'm trying to shift the Overton window for all Christians of goodwill to say, no, we will insist on a Christian society.
We will insist on decency.
We will raise more than three kids.
And we will create film and art and everything that edifies the soul, edifies the family, edifies children, and edifies the church.
And we will be successful.
So that's the goal of the book.
I'd ask everyone to, it's not out yet, but you can order.
If you pre-order, it'll help us get on the New York Times bestseller list.
So you go to ChristianpatriotBook.com.
That's the site right there on the screen.
Christianpatriotbook.com.
And please pre-order two copies.
We want to be on the New York Times bestseller.
I want this book to be a big splash, especially for MAGA conservatives.
I want them to read, what are we conserving?
Is it just Republicanism?
Or is it a worldview about seeing the world and the next generation and the children and the family through the lens the way God sees it?
Well, guys, it was great to talk to Dr. Taylor Marshall.
I really hope you liked this video.
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But thank you, everyone, so much for watching.
If you have a friend you would like to share this with, I know one of the main reasons I did this interview is because I want to be able to share with some of the people in my life who may be Protestants or may just not really understand why this heresy of dispensationalism actually has huge, huge consequences, especially if we're looking into the fact that who knows, maybe the end times are approaching soon.
We don't want anyone to be falling for the Antichrist.
So it is actually super important to understand that Christians are God's chosen people now.
Everyone, thanks so much for watching and hope you have a great rest of your day.
