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Tates CHARGED.. Is This MORE Political PERSECUTION? | The Rift | Guests: Kai Schwemmer & Sarah Stock

It hasn’t even been more than a year since the Tates’ persecution in Romania by DIICOT - and now it seems like the UK has followed Romania’s lead in trying to take the Tates down. Is this political persecution, or are the Tates really guilty of the crimes they’ve committed?Show more Sarah Stock and Kai Schwemmer join us for this new episode of The Rift! We’re covering this and MORE on today’s episode of The Rift Report! Check out our website: https://www.rifttv.com ___ ➤FOLLOW RIFT EVERYWHERE: https://linktr.ee/therifttv ___ ⇩ELIJAH’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://x.com/ElijahSchaffer ___ ⇩SARAH’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/SarahCStock ___ ⇩KAI’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://x.com/KaiSchwemmer ___ ⇩MICHAEL HENNESSEY’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://x.com/Snowflake_News ___ ➤ VAN MAN COMPANY: Vanman Co. is the go-to source for all-natural, non-toxic and chemical free products — from creams to deodorant, soap and mouthwash, Vanman Co. is one of the only companies to deliver on quality without cutting corners when it comes to your health and well-being. Go to https://www.vanman.shop/elijah and use promocode ELIJAH for 10% OFF! ➤ Nutronics Labs: USE PROMOCODE: ELIJAH | https://www.elijahigf1.com Show less

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elijah schaffer
Well, Andrew Tate has been charged with rape in the United Kingdom.
You all know his name.
Him and his brother Tristan are very popular online on TikTok, on Instagram.
He's been censored all around the world.
But most importantly, now he's been charged in Romania and the United Kingdom with allegations, we should call them, of sexual violence against women.
Are these things really true?
Well, we're talking about that story.
And so much more here on another episode of The Rift, live Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. Eastern Time on Rumble and YouTube.
Let's start the show.
unidentified
Back to The Rift on RiftTV.com.
elijah schaffer
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
I'll be your host today.
We are talking first and foremost about this development with Andrew Tate.
It's a contentious topic because some people really like him.
Some people actually think he's the devil himself.
And my list of panelists today here on the show all disagree on what we really think about this guy.
But what matters the most, I want to say this, is regardless of your opinion, this show focuses on what's the truth.
So whether you love him or hate him, is he guilty of these crimes?
It's a conversation we're going to be having, plus talking about the development of our culture.
What is hood prom?
That's an interesting question.
Joining me today back again is one of my panelists.
Introduce yourself.
kai schwemmer
Hey, thanks, Elijah.
I'm very happy to be here.
My name is Kai Schwemmer.
I'm a 22-year-old conservative political commentator and a campus speaker and a contributor here on The Rift.
elijah schaffer
Awesome, dude.
It's good to have you back.
I know you're going to be heading out today, reminding you guys, this is pre-recorded today.
So with super chats, if you do send them, you can read them tomorrow on tomorrow's show.
But Sarah and I, who you'll meet in just a second, are going off to Tim Poole's show.
So on Thursday, you'll see us there live at 8 p.m. Eastern Time.
Go ahead and introduce yourself.
Tell us who you are.
sarah stock
Yeah, my name is Sarah.
I'm a contributor here at Rift.
unidentified
I'm, I guess, before saying our age, I'm 21 years old.
elijah schaffer
No, why are we saying our age?
sarah stock
Wait, how old are you, Elijah?
kai schwemmer
I am 44.
sarah stock
But yeah, follow me.
Wait, no, we're not doing that already.
elijah schaffer
Just tell us who you are.
sarah stock
Yeah, I write articles.
elijah schaffer
How fast does a worm travel?
Go ahead.
sarah stock
I write articles for slightlyoffensive.com, our website for Rift.
And yeah, I'm a contributor.
elijah schaffer
She doesn't even know that website doesn't exist anymore.
So we're gonna call rifftv.com.
Slightly offensive literally doesn't exist.
sarah stock
Well, it did up until like two days ago.
elijah schaffer
All right, that's cool.
It's just your job.
kai schwemmer
Anyway, the news moves fast, sweetie.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, she's next thing you know, she's gonna be like, Can you go pick me up a new CD?
You're like, oh, we don't buy those anymore.
Joining me back as well is co-host resident talk show legend.
Go ahead and introduce yourself.
michael hennessey
Hey, happy to be here.
I'm going to keep my age to myself.
I'm starting to get out there.
So named Michael Hennessy.
You guys see me here plenty of times.
And you can check me out in Snowflake News, but just happy to be here.
elijah schaffer
Snowflakes news.
It's actually possessive.
michael hennessey
We're going to put frosted snowflakes later on.
We're going to start to mix it up.
elijah schaffer
Speaking of that, Michael Mendoza of the MendozaReport.com.
It's good to have you back there in the control room.
michael mendoza
Yep, I'm actually on camera today.
Micah set up.
I actually do have a little name key thing, too, but I forgot to set that up.
That was the one thing I forgot about today.
But of course, you know, I'm a selfless individual.
So I was thinking about everyone first.
But happy to be here.
Happy to be on the screen with everyone once more.
And here we are.
elijah schaffer
It's just Mexicans, man.
michael mendoza
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
No, I'm kidding.
We love everyone.
There's been a lot of controversy going on.
I'm glad we have a panelist here who all sort of disagree on this topic.
We got to jump into this.
So thetimes.com, which is covering this story, says Andrew Tate faces and human trafficking charges in the UK.
The social media influencer will be charged over allegations of assault and controlling prostitution.
Prosecutors have announced.
Now it says here, let me see if I can zoom in for those of you that are blind.
Andrew Tate, the self-confessed misogynistic social media influencer, faces 10 charges in the UK, including assault, human trafficking, and controlling prostitution relating to three alleged victims.
Prosecutors have announced.
Tate, who has millions of social media followers, has been under investigation in relation to an online sex business that he ran in Bedfordshire.
Tate, now 38, and his brother Tristan 36, were charged in Romania in 2023 with similar charges relating to their online sex business operating in Bucharest.
Tristan faces 11 charges in the UK, including actual bodily harm and human trafficking as alleged to hypothetical bodily harm.
You know, I don't know what that means anyway.
kai schwemmer
No, this is actual.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, actual bodily harm.
Both brothers have previously denied any wrongdoing and said that any sexual activity was consensual.
A Crown Prosecution Service spokesperson said on Wednesday, we can confirm that we have authorized charges against Andrew and Tristan Tate for offenses, including trafficking, controlling prostitution, and actual bodily harm against three women.
These charging decisions following a file of evidence from Bedfordshire Police.
However, the domestic criminal matters in Romania must be settled first.
Matt Jury, the lawyer representing several of the alleged British victims of Tate in the civil claim, said, We welcome the clarity from the Crown Prosecution Service that our authorities are working to ensure the Tates face justice here in the UK.
They cannot be allowed to escape extradition.
The European arrest warrant was issued last year at the request of Bedfordshire Police.
A Bucharest court ordered the extradition to the UK of the Tates following the conclusion of the criminal case in Romania.
That being said, this is a bit lengthy here, but the Romanian authorities were reported earlier in May to be considering dropping the charges against the Tates.
The prosecutor's office said in a statement on Wednesday that the case was currently being resolved.
So no further information about the proceedings can be closed or disclosed.
Tate also faced a landmark civil claim for coercive control by four British women who alleged they were strangled and threatened with a gun while being he's being sued by two women who worked for his online sex business in Lutton in 2015 and two former girlfriends in 2013 and 2014.
Tate does say the relationships that they accused him of rape were consensual and the compensation case is being brought after three-year deadline for civil claims.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
So we could talk about opinions.
All we want on this case, you know, is Tate a good or a bad guy, is what he did right or wrong.
But let's start first on the table of truth, right?
Let's go to the factual claims and the criminal allegations because, again, I think that, you know, a lot of things that are legal should be illegal and a lot of things that are illegal should be legal.
Why can't I do crack, Grammy?
Why can't I do crack?
Because it's illegal, son.
It's illegal, she told me.
No, but this is a very interesting question.
But the question of criminality is what we're going to focus on here first.
Is he guilty of these things?
This is a very important thing.
I want to say two factors here.
Number one, if the UK treated questionable cases of consent as aggressively as they would treat Pakistani gangs, I don't even think Tate would be charged.
I wouldn't even listen to these girls because we know the United Kingdom government is more concerned with attacking the Tates than they are with actually tackling real threats to their own citizens.
And I bring this up only because the United Kingdom actually has created a program to help detatorize.
You know, you saw that one?
The detatorize the students.
They literally said that Tate is an enemy of the state because he's pushing misogyny and sexism into students.
So they've trained their schools to try to thwart and to deconstruct Tate's influence.
So as we jump into this, I want to bring up the bias here that, look, Tate's being charged in the United Kingdom for sexual crimes.
Is he guilty?
Look, I couldn't possibly know that.
I don't think he is because I know how this stuff works.
I know how Me Too stuff works.
Okay.
At this point, if you don't have a written contract that's 30 pages, you could be guilty of yourself.
Did you sign here?
Did you sign here?
Consent, consent, consent.
But I know that the UK has been trying to get him in jail.
They'd want him to lose his influence.
So it wouldn't surprise me that as the Romanian court digresses and loses their, or they lost their case against them, they're bringing it back into administration that the UK government then would bring up the charges.
And it's the convenience of timing that it's like, okay, so as the other case dismisses, now you're going to bring your case.
It seems like lawfare and less like actual justice.
That's what I want to bring up.
The timing of it and the fact that it's the United Kingdom judicial system makes me question the legitimacy of these claims.
Why wouldn't they have done this years ago while they're in the middle of their own filing?
Maybe there's some, what's that called when you're working together?
kai schwemmer
It's collusion.
elijah schaffer
Collusion.
Yeah.
Maybe there's some collusion here.
And I also want to end, and I digress, that the United Kingdom has no authority to ask for extradition from Romania because they're not a part of the European Union.
So it's called Brexit, bitch.
You guys got to live with it.
I don't know what you think about this, but I just want to bring that up because no one really knows if they actually someone who weren't there.
I just don't, the circumstances make me question everything.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, one of those things that Andrew Tate has actually said and maintained over and over is that he has never been, you know, actually convicted of any crime anywhere in the world.
That if anybody is like looking for that, they're never going to be able to find it.
My personal gut tells me the kind of stuff that Andrew Tate says, the kind of business that he has admitted to being engaged in, the kind of way that he made his money, it all tells me that it's probably true that some of these cases, there was absolutely like a relationship that was probably abusive in some way, that was probably, I don't know if it would probably cross the border to the way that these accusations are framing it.
And I think there's context to be understood, which is that these women were hired prostitutes, practically.
They were internet prostitutes.
They were running these chat rooms.
They were doing all kinds of things that are already, you know, this environment that they're working in is already conducive to sexual relations where that line is blurred.
It is not just like Andrew Tate walked up and like put a gun to a girl on the street.
These are women who are already working in a sex industry.
And that doesn't do them any favors because it's incredibly difficult to say, well, when is this a kink?
When is this something they're attracted to?
And when does it actually cross that line into becoming criminal behavior?
elijah schaffer
But when does it, though?
That's the question.
When does r become r?
That's like, it's like, it's like it's an interesting topic that a lot of people don't want to talk about.
And we have to be sensitive here on YouTube.
But it's like.
How could you possibly determine this?
Because the modern definition of is so much different than, let's say, when we're talking about, like I said, like a Pakistani gang.
And I, and I, and I, um, you actually might need to have Joey, because it's pre-recorded, actually censor this show, actually, and bleep these, these words out there genuinely for YouTube.
But when we're talking about, about and these things, you know, we all know that there's like, you know, an Indian guy, you know, holds a girl down in a bathroom in a club and, you know, he does his business and whatever.
And that's like obviously like forced penetration.
That's what, that's where you, you bring the line of, you go, it's forced penetration.
She was not in a consensual situation.
But in these situations where like they're already in a sexual relationship and he has them doing prostitute, prostituting them.
kai schwemmer
Or their former girlfriends and these accusations.
unidentified
Correct.
elijah schaffer
It's a lot of them.
A lot of them do not have the specific night, time, or day.
And so I think what the question is, is what we're talking about here is not like he forced himself onto women.
They're talking about in terms of like that he sort of like you would say statutory.
Like it's like he coerced them and abused them into like working for him as a prostitute and then threatened them.
And so like that level of coercion under force is what sort of they're claiming.
I just want to clarify this.
No one's really claiming that he just like held a chick down.
And then also he's the way they frame it.
But he was into kinks as well.
And they were into like beating up kinks and all these things.
And there's girls that are claiming that like that was his kink, not theirs.
And therefore they were going along because they feared for their lives.
Like that's kind of what's being stated.
I just want to clarify to everybody.
No one's saying that like Andrew went into a club and just grabbed a random chick and whatever.
sarah stock
It seems like it's more coercion, manipulation stuff.
And honestly, I don't find that too hard to believe.
I mean, I've seen Tristan talk about.
elijah schaffer
You don't like them, though, personally, do you?
sarah stock
I don't know because I feel like now that I know people who know them and then they say that they're a lot of this stuff isn't true or whatever.
Like I really don't know because I just don't.
elijah schaffer
But do you think I was saying that legally speaking, do you like, look, people all get involved in sexual things that they that are not proud of.
Okay.
Like they people do, but I'm saying isn't it?
sarah stock
Well, this is, this is just like the problem when we treat like the only type of morality when it comes to sex is consent.
Like that's the problem.
That's the real problem here.
It's like they shouldn't be doing an OnlyFans business to begin with, you know, or like a cam girl business to begin with.
And so now it's like, we're pretending like that's fully moral, but then you cross this like really, really blurry line and it's not moral.
It's like all of it's wrong.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, this, by the way, is exactly why, you know, the left time and time again absolutely betrays their own position.
The left-wing people will argue that, well, actually, sex work is something that can be beneficial for women.
And actually, I think we ought to empower women.
We just need to protect them in these industries.
That's an oxymoron.
You can't protect somebody if your business is their sexual exploitation.
That's not to play like the big feminist here.
elijah schaffer
Write that down.
Write that down.
We got to shut this down.
kai schwemmer
It's not to say it's not to play this big feminist, but it is to say that like Sarah said, once you're already in this environment, there's really a huge blurry line.
As far as claims about his guilt, and we're all speculating, we actually don't know the facts of the case.
And I think what you said is correct.
This is lawfare.
The fact that when they go to Florida, the government in Florida, I don't know who's going to be able to do it.
sarah stock
Well, it's so obviously because he has influence and he's a political figure.
That's why they're coming for him.
Absolutely.
elijah schaffer
Do you agree with that?
michael hennessey
Yeah, I mean, as far as Andrew Tate goes, I don't know if he's innocent or not.
Anybody who kind of goes down the road of anything to sexual abuse, you know, they should be prosecuted to the fullest.
But the one thing I was going to talk about, how you did mention the Florida, what happened, him coming to Florida, how Ron DeSantis came after him.
You know, I wish they put that much effort actually into Epstein, you know, when we had that problem here in Palm Beach.
But I do believe, as Sarah mentioned, it has a lot to do with his influence, him being online, him, his voice being shared, you know, to multiple people.
So I think it's a way they want to go ahead and they do want to silence him.
I even seen a movie they had that came out recently.
I forget the name of it.
kai schwemmer
It was a show on the Netflix show.
sarah stock
Adolescence.
michael hennessey
Yeah, where they're saying that he avoids striped pajamas.
Yeah.
He helped inspire the kid to create, you know, to go ahead and murder somebody.
So I do believe there is a political aspect to this.
I think they want to silence him as much as possible.
I know there was times when he mentioned that he also wanted to run for office in the UK as well.
So I'm sure that kind of played a part there, trying to nip that in the butt ahead of time.
elijah schaffer
The Conor McGregor, right?
He said he was going to run in the Irish political system.
And they accused him of, what was it called?
Like litigatory or something like that, where it's like it was not a criminal thing, but it was a civil penalty.
It's like, how can he be civilly penalized for?
It's either a criminal activity and you did it or you didn't.
That's all I'm saying.
michael hennessey
That story kind of crumbled in many ways because when they had the videos that showed in the hallways with that girl, she was hooking up with a friend, supposedly the friend as well.
So, you know, they had video of them actually like, you know, getting very intimate, very intense.
She says she doesn't remember anything from this scenario.
So the whole Conor McGregor thing.
Do I think Conor McGregor does things that he shouldn't do?
I think we have, you know, there's other Conor McGregor.
sarah stock
Is he cheeky?
unidentified
Is he a cheeky?
elijah schaffer
He's a cheeky boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
kai schwemmer
He's a cheeky boy.
sarah stock
I think he's innocent.
Like in terms of her.
Yeah, I looked through the details of that.
michael hennessey
Yeah, I don't think, I don't think Conor McGregor or you.
elijah schaffer
Too remember, our defense secretary got accused of as well.
kai schwemmer
Well, and here's what happens: if you don't mind me interrupting, it's like you change absolutely the lens.
Like once you know why you don't like a person, everything that person has ever done in their life is going to be reframed from this new idea of them that you have.
So if, for example, Conor McGregor or the Tate brothers, if they are now political enemies, or we can cast them as, you know, every interaction they've ever had with a woman at any point in their life will now be, will now be seen through a new lens, the lens of them being, which means that they've never been able to have any kind of innocent interaction with a woman because we're always looking for them to have been in whatever case.
michael hennessey
Well, that's the bad thing about these types of scenarios.
So even when you are proven guilty, nobody goes back and looks into it.
You know, what they do is they just remember the initial allegation and then they hold you to the fire.
So you always have that hanging over your head.
And it's something that, you know, I feel bad if it happens to anybody.
It's a terrible situation.
I couldn't even imagine.
But, you know, it seems like that's like a political tool that's used all the time.
You know, we've seen that with Kavanaugh.
We've seen that with many other people.
sarah stock
Trump Trump.
michael hennessey
You know what I mean?
kai schwemmer
Kavanaugh was wild, by the way.
michael hennessey
I don't remember the girl says.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, high school, too.
I was in high school, right?
kai schwemmer
Yeah.
And the craziest thing is, you know, who it was?
It was Senator Feinstein, if I'm not mistaken.
elijah schaffer
She sat on Nice American Name.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, she literally sat on this accusation by Dr. Sally Ford.
What was her name?
I forget the last name was Ford.
michael hennessey
I forget the first name.
kai schwemmer
I think that's who it is, Sally Ford, if I'm not mistaken.
michael mendoza
I think it was Christine Blasey Ford.
elijah schaffer
Christine Blazy.
I was going to say Ford.
unidentified
Yeah.
kai schwemmer
Christine Blasey Ford.
elijah schaffer
His name was Henry Ford.
unidentified
Sorry.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, yeah.
But you've got Christine Blasey Ford.
She brought this up to these Democratic politicians.
What do they do?
They sit on it so that they can draw out and make longer the process of his nomination to the Supreme Court.
elijah schaffer
But this is what you were saying.
And I've experienced this personally.
Is like I've had, it's what we call, it's called cancel culture, by the way.
And the reason why the Me Too movement, this is actually really sad for like genuine victims who are victims of real.
What happens is like sex is a little bit of a questionable thing in terms of like, yeah, girls will oftentimes like, and this is not my own experience, this is understanding the way life works.
Girls oftentimes like to have sex, but they don't like the idea that they like to have sex because culturally they don't want to express that.
So oftentimes girls go like, no, I don't want to, or they play hard to get.
This is a very common thing, which is why girls hold the keys to sex.
Everybody knows this, that girls hold the keys to sex.
And in terms of like, for guys, that guy's whole mission, this is like kind of funny.
The whole thing with sex is you can't just get it all the time from anyone anytime you want.
You've literally got to do things to make it more accessible to you.
You got to have money.
You got to have height.
You've got to have Riz.
There's videos and classes on like how to get women.
Look at that.
Do you see that?
sarah stock
You have to watch The Rizzler.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, exactly.
You got to watch The Rizzler and get, you know, obese.
My point is, is that all guys' lives are built around trying to access the sex and that women can give to them.
And that being said is like the entire point from when you get into a woman's pants to when, you know, you're just sitting here at the table is that there's like doors you got to get through to get there, right?
Now, at any point, this is the problem with the whole like modern Me Too thing.
At any point, if the girl's just like, no, don't, or whatever, there's a big difference if a girl says, stop, don't do that, versus a, oh, come on, no, I don't want to.
It's like, this is the problem is that there's a lot of like this like playing, it's baiting and going through things.
Everybody in culture is against real r like everybody's against a genuine like this, you took advantage of somebody and you literally assaulted them.
But the modern definitions of assault and are basically a gynecentric, you know, way to just sort of like empower women to weaponize this against powerful men.
And it's turned into a politicized weapon.
It doesn't mean it doesn't actually happen.
It means that there's most cases today, and I know it's a very unpopular statement, are usually the same way that women get, you know, control of their children in divorce court or whatever, are female-centric ways of pushing political power into women's arms or into their hands that wasn't previously there.
And I want to say this as an important factor.
You know, if you're a powerful guy and you haven't been accused of being a pedophile to sexual assault or something like that, I wonder if you have real influence.
And I mean that not even jokingly, is that that's the first tool they do to destroy you.
And, you know, from my own experience and living, you know, around a lot of people, the Tate thing is the biggest red flag always to me is this.
If you have a clear-cut criminal case against someone committing a crime against you, this should be a criminal matter taken to criminal courts and dealt with public and you're making a show of it.
It makes me wonder, did you really get violated criminally and do you want justice?
Or are you trying to make an example of someone?
And if you don't have the clear-cut criminal, why not go through the courts and go public with him?
sarah stock
I don't understand that at all.
Like, I don't understand why you would do a civil case for, it doesn't make any sense.
It's like, if that happened to you, go to the police.
elijah schaffer
Go to court.
Like, actually go to court and try to explain, you know, get the charges dealt with.
And everyone's like, well, they didn't know and they didn't feel emboldened to.
And I'm going, listen, that's the point.
That's not.
You just didn't like the situation.
And if it wasn't clear to you, and it took you three years to figure out if it was, maybe the guy doesn't know either.
So in these situations, it's like, were you living there?
Were you running a cam business?
I'm just saying, a lot of the, a lot of this stuff is like, hey, you're a prostitute and you were like living at their house and you were like subjecting yourself to all this stuff.
How did they know that you didn't want to do it?
Why were you there?
kai schwemmer
And it's like I said, you know, you can't divorce these two things.
You can't divorce sexually exploitative relationships.
You can't divorce higher, you know, rates of assault, sexual abuse from the sex industry.
It's built in.
That's what makes money.
There's a reason why some of the most popular fantasies that are produced in the porn industry are exactly that.
They are abusive.
They are coercive.
But, you know, somebody signed a contract before.
So then depicting those things is totally okay, I guess.
I think the thing that I always say, the most important thing to hone in on, especially with right-wing young men, the best thing you can do, because what Elijah said is correct.
You are somebody who is prominent, they are eventually going to hit you with one of these accusations.
The best thing you can do is live your life in such a way that even a layman who sees you is going to say, well, that really can't be true.
You know, if you are able to control yourself in a way that there is a character, there's an idea of you that exists in the minds of other people that make those kind of, that just make those kind of accusations just not stick off the get-go.
That's the best defense you have.
Your best defense is your ability.
sarah stock
Yeah, how about just don't run a cam girl business?
kai schwemmer
Well, and this is exactly why these claims are screwed, man.
This is why these claims are like much more potent against Andrew Tate is because a lot of his life, and you know, it's not just, you know, his political rhetoric.
Yeah, it is, you know, it makes it very easy for people to say, well, you know, you're claiming that this guy who ran, you know, this cam site did stuff like this.
Well, that's pretty believable.
If this was like some normal guy who's working a nine to five, if it was Kai, well, no one would really have to.
elijah schaffer
I would already commit that.
That's what I'm guilty.
I'd be like, Kai.
No, but okay, but I want to explain this to you.
So as we're talking about this, guys, one of the things that I think is the reason why Tate's actually a threat is because he does give off, whether it's through show or through the arts, a very prototypical, stereotypical masculine vibe, right?
He controls women, even if he manipulates women.
He's, I'm not accusing him of any criminality.
I'm just saying that he, I don't think he's guilty of anything criminal.
kai schwemmer
He likes Sean Connery, James Bond movie.
unidentified
Correct.
elijah schaffer
But like, but yeah, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's reminding men, you don't have to submit to the gynecracy.
And part of the thing is, is that, you know, he really has worked on getting his testosterone levels up.
Like, this is from experience.
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Um, I want to play a video, and then we're going to go to Henny here about this.
I kind of Radfem Hitler and uh uh Richard Hanania, um, basically two people that I model my whole life off of go by the way.
They're actually my role models, uh, had a discussion recently about this idea about like, you know, is Andrew Tate, like he says it was a kink, right?
There's no, it was like kinks or whatever.
Is that really real?
Can you get is fantasies real?
Joey's gonna have fun bleeping this show out from YouTube, but uh, go ahead and watch this.
unidentified
Do you have grape fantasies?
What are grape fantasies?
He's saying I don't believe fantasies are real.
I don't really fantasize about somebody feeding you grapes like a robot.
I've tweeted about this.
Fantasy is like an oxymoron.
You can't really like fantasize about, you know, you're wanting the sex, right?
So the whole idea of that is not consensual.
So if you're wanting it, it's consensual.
So a fantasy is not real.
It's, it's really just wanting a man who's so overcome with passion for you.
And it's really just the flip side of men kind of liking these whoreish women in porn that are just like going crazy, you know, because they're just so into the guy.
It's the same thing.
So both are just appealing to the egos of men and women.
And neither is there's really no involved.
It's just knowing that your partner is immensely turned on by you.
So do you think that women?
Okay, so do you think there are situations where like women are in a situation where they are like hooking up with somebody and then they want him to overpower her?
Yeah, sure, but that's not.
It's not.
Yeah.
But there's no part of her that that's that's not that's not okay.
So she could say she's.
What if she says no no, what if every outer indication is like, no no, I hate you, get away from me, and then he does it.
But she wanted it is that, is that not?
Yeah, I mean, some people are into this, but again, that's not, it's not.
You do want it, right.
So very confusing, isn't?
elijah schaffer
I agree, Richard Hanani.
Richard Hanani is looking at you, Sarah.
unidentified
He's like hey well, you're saying no, but really want all of this.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that's kind of i'm saying i'm i'm tempted I might want Richard Hanani me.
unidentified
So yeah, I mean, I don't know if I share this end, though that wouldn't be considered.
michael hennessey
Uh, that that's just the out of control role play that they're running into.
So a kink, I guess you would call it.
But the bad thing about all these allegations too, that that you have popping up and being used as like a political tool is it takes away from women who've Actually, went through traumatic experiences, had these things happen to them.
So, you know, it's just like a lot of the racism we've seen with Jesse Smollett and all the other race car driver.
I don't think America has a culture.
I think we head over to India.
You might see a lot more of that culture over there where they accept it.
They allow the people to persecute the woman, saying it was her fault.
But here in America, I don't believe we have that problem here.
Do I think there's bad apples?
Yes, of course, we have a few in the bunch, but I don't think that's the case.
So, and yeah, I mean, Andrew Tate, I don't know, he was in the industries you mentioned, sexual industry.
Do I does that kind of get close to the borderline of what you mentioned about it being like more allowed by putting themselves out there?
I don't think so, but at the same time, they're not completely innocent in those types of environments.
So, it's a little bit of a struggle there.
I don't think that, me personally, I don't think that they date the girl, but that's just my take.
kai schwemmer
I think there is a culture in the sense that the pornography is being pushed onto everybody, whether you want it or not.
It's like our eyes are being assaulted by pornography, which is put everywhere.
One of the things that the mission really woke me up to was just like how crazy the amount of pornography that is in our society is.
I was like walking down the street in Argentina and I would see an ad for like Swimmer, but it was like, this is, you know, what is really a big functional difference here?
michael hennessey
We've come a long way with that.
You know, it's really bad.
I remember even back, I think it was like the, I don't want to say the 60s or 70s when you had I Dream a Genie and there was like this big outrage because she showed her belly button, or you know, you had Elvis who shook his hips one time and they're like, Okay, we can't show this on camera.
And we have come a long way from that.
Now, you know, pretty much everything is very sexualized.
Um, the promotion of the promoting of OnlyFans and men don't know what to do with that.
Maybe women aspire to it.
Yeah, they uh, you lost me on that one.
Yeah, they, um, but yeah, I mean, even the, as you mentioned, porn pornography all around us, you do see that with OnlyFans being promoted.
Oh, if you want to be rich, you want to make more money than the NBA players.
Yes, that is shoved down a lot of these women's throats.
And unfortunately, it takes them away from what, you know, the beauty of a real woman to actually have a family to grow in that nature.
elijah schaffer
But well, yeah, but all I was going to say is that the fantasy thing is stupid.
I think what it comes down to is women don't, they don't want agency in their sexual desires.
They don't want to initiate sex.
And they, well, they want a man to take initiation.
I think that's totally healthy.
Like, I think what we talked about fantasies, women do have real fantasies, by the way.
That's a real thing.
However, what it is, it's like they do genuinely.
I've talked to most women.
They've said that they've had dreams about that or different things.
And they read books with tons of sexual assault about them.
michael hennessey
Oh, their books are the worst.
elijah schaffer
Their books are extremely smutty and have all this content in there.
I've read pages of them before.
I'm like, wow, that's literally, you're literally getting horny because it's like, that's literally a violent scene, by the way.
But, you know, to the normal woman, that's the problem.
A lot of women have proclivities in their brain of like wanting things they shouldn't have or living in not a real reality.
It's like they're like, oh, this would be great.
Obviously, getting isn't great.
They wouldn't want that.
But what it comes down to is that women want men to be men.
Women prefer to be in a sexual situation where they're not initiating it.
Women prefer to be in where a man is in control of the situation.
And women that are, you know, they do have weird fetishes like Dom stuff and submission and whatnot.
This show's not a big, like big, big dumb talking about kinks and stuff like that.
So we're not going to go into the proclivities of people's bedroom life.
But I will say, it's like, it's like what people, that's why I hate the whole rape thing and me too.
It's like, what's really coming down to is that sex has lost its gravitas in terms of like women like to be, you know, not told what restaurant they're going to and taken and wined and dined and treated like a woman.
Women like to not tell men, could you please get the door for me for men just to open up the door for the men?
Women like men to be men and to take initiation.
And the reason why the Me Too movement is so dangerous is it scared men out of initiating contact with women.
Like, that's the whole problem of this whole thing.
Is that men, I know men who are like, like I talked to people this industry that don't even have sex.
You know, they're not even Christian.
They don't do it for any moral reasons.
They're just like afraid of getting accused of because they're like, dude, a woman's going to regret it.
She's going to feel guilty, you know, cry about it and then file a charge so she doesn't have to feel guilty about it.
And then the whole court is in their favor, so they don't even touch women anymore.
I know that Pete Hegseth literally got accused of a woman that he had consensual sex with how to go through court because she was married and was afraid her husband asked her where she was.
And instead of just saying, oh, I was downstairs having a drink, she accused a man of ringing her.
That's and like went, got the kit, went through court, and it turned out only because of security cameras that it was like he was legally, he legally did it.
He was like, it showed her like, you know, initiating.
She walked up to him and the whole nine yards.
So I'm just going to say the downside to all this Tate stuff.
And I think the reason why they're trying to stick it on the Tates personally is because ultimately they want to weaken men's position.
And men are going to be more and more, the more we push this stuff, just like yesterday's civil case against free speech, the more men are going to be afraid to initiate contact.
And again, I'm not promoting promiscuity.
They're just going to be initially.
They don't want to touch women.
Men would go up to women, put their arm around them, talk about them.
Men won't even touch women now.
Men are afraid to touch women when it's like, and then girls are like, why don't men, you know, I can't find a good man out there.
It's like, that good man is afraid to talk to you.
That's my opinion.
That's just all about putting fear into men.
And that's what I believe.
michael hennessey
And one thing that you touched on as far as Andrew Tate is, is the fact that he promotes masculinity.
Now, do I agree with everything that Andrew Tate says as far as how a man should be?
Not 100%.
But in the same time, when you have it, so you're being told all the time that, you know, different terms, man explaining and all these other things where you're not allowed to be a manly man anymore.
They want more feminine men.
And then we're told to be silent.
What you do is you gravitate to the loudest voice.
We've seen the same thing with Trump.
You know, we had, it was called the silent majority before, and everybody was scared to talk about politics, to talk about, you know, to share their opinions.
So when Trump came in, it was like, okay, finally, we're letting this, you know, the steam off, open the valve, let the steam out.
And then people felt like they were able to speak freely.
And then their voice was actually being put out there.
So I think Andrew Tate is the same thing.
They fear strong men.
Weak men create the rough societies.
What is it?
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create bad times.
And the cycle continues.
So their biggest fear is actually have men that stand up who want to protect their country, who want to take care of their family, who want to go ahead out and be the hunters and the gatherers.
They fear that.
What they want is they want us to be more submissive.
And not only to have them come after us, we also have to worry about the things we're feeding.
Eating.
That's why you have companies like IGF, which are great to help rebuild that testosterone.
Because a lot of the water that we're even drinking, you shouldn't be drinking tap water, but you have things with birth control.
Birth control is hard to filter out of the water.
So we're taking in all these different kinds of things, drinking, maybe eating, that are lowering our testosterone daily.
And you'd be surprised to see like the numbers when you actually look at them from someone in the 1950s to now.
It's just not even close to testosterone levels.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, I don't know.
I can't comment too much.
Never had sex.
I'm not going to touch this topic.
I'm going to.
elijah schaffer
Neither have I. Neither have I.
I haven't done it.
kai schwemmer
And I don't plan on it.
elijah schaffer
I just asked Tim Rubin, how'd you get those kids?
And I copied and pasted his approach.
Okay, switching.
There's a lot we could talk about that, but switching topics a little bit.
I did want to talk about something kind of crazy.
So we're not going to be talking about the Elizabeth Warren thing because I found out today that actually that article might have even been wrong.
michael hennessey
Oh, okay.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Actually, I just got a message from the editors at Gateway that I think that there was a lot of incorrect information there.
So we will check on that tomorrow.
If it's true, then we'll follow up to it.
And there's a lot to talk about, but I'm getting a message from the editors that perhaps this auto pen situation may be a little more complicated than we previously thought.
So we'll hopefully touch that tomorrow.
That being said, check this out.
It also turns out RiftTV.com reports that the U.S. faces new COVID threats as China's NB181 strain hits major cities.
Oh, here we go again.
The globalist elites are cranking up the fear machine again, sounding the alarm on the so-called new COVID variant to keep you in line, pushing masks and panic to strangle your freedom.
A new highly infectious COVID-19 strain, NB181, first identified in China, has now surfaced in the U.S. with cases confirmed in New York, California, Washington, State, Virginia, yada, yada, yada, yada.
Detected in late March and early April among international travelers, the variant has reportedly spread to 22 countries with 518 cases reported globally.
In China, emergency rooms, 4C19 have surged 7.5% to 16% in the past month, while hospital admissions doubled in state-run China daily.
Hong Kong reported 81 severe cases and 30 deaths in the last four weeks, mostly among those over 65, with 12 months high positive test rates of 13.66%.
Taiwan's related ER admissions spiked 78%.
And the World Economic Forum and its globalist cronies thrive on keeping society in a perpetual state of emergency.
It's their playbook, create a crisis, justify control, and erode your rights.
The pandemic was their masterpiece, exploited to enforce worldwide tyranny, according to the author here.
They're trying to push this to remind you to stay safe.
Now, we have to be interesting talking about this on YouTube, but I can't believe we're still talking about this.
Like, I'm genuinely, right?
This is still in the news.
michael hennessey
It's giving me flashbacks once again.
Yeah, I think, you know, we're all tired of it.
The whole trust of science was something that was just shoved down our throats.
Something that, you know, I got to be careful what I say on YouTube, but, you know, we're sick and tired of these endless scammed pretty much that get pumped out and forced upon us.
And I can't believe we're here again.
Yesterday we were talking about worms that brain-eating worms.
I know Sarah was very concerned how the worms traveled and how fast they move.
But yeah, I mean, it's just time and time again.
It seems to be a recurring theme, and they just keep throwing all these different kinds of.
sarah stock
Did we ever find out that about the worms?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was actually a question in my son's math exam.
And it was like, if you have 1 million screw worms and they're getting to the United States by September 21st and they travel at 0.1 millimeters per hour, how many years would it take for the screw worms to get to the border?
And that was a real, real question and prompt I was asked.
michael hennessey
Do you still have the border photo from it?
elijah schaffer
I will find it.
What was the answer?
The answer was...
sarah stock
Was there like a picture of all the worms?
elijah schaffer
It was, what is a woodchuck chuck and how much could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
So that was the answer.
I do want to bring this up, though, because there's another video that I'm not going to play here that talks about a toxicologist and that he was threatened to stay silent on the treatment for this, of course, you know, what some are calling man-made.
Some are saying came from Wuhan.
I'm not saying those things.
I'm just saying there's a lot of people saying it.
There was a lot of cover-up, right?
One of the people that was pushing this treatment were celebrities, right?
And I think that they're obviously blackmailed.
And what's interesting is that Vigilant Fox, who's a good friend of the show here, reported that Mike Benn, security analyst, former Fed, by the way, former Fed.
michael hennessey
Are they ever formed?
Once a Fed, always a Fed.
elijah schaffer
Are they ever former?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
A former Fed did expose Bill Barr's deep ties to the Epstein cover-up.
And I got to say, you know, there's been a lot of people in this world that have been covering up what happened.
mike benz
Bill Barr was the head of the Justice Department when Epstein died in prison.
I totally agree with your analysis.
There's no way both security cameras glitch out, both security guards fall asleep, the visitor log page is ripped out of the notebook.
And who was the head of the Justice Department at the time that that happened under?
It was Bill Barr.
Bill Barr was the CIA's mop-up man.
He told his high school guidance counselor, this is in his own autobiography, that his dream job was to run the CIA.
His first job was working for the CIA.
His first seven years of his career, he spent at the CIA.
He went to night law school while he was at the CIA, basically worked through law school with the CIA.
His first job out of law school was protecting the CIA from the Iran-Contra investigation when the CIA was perceived to have gone rogue to work in tandem with Santos Traficante and the whole Tampa and Louisiana and,
you know, network and Miami in order to run guns to the Nicaraguan Contras and to work with all the different paramilitary groups that needed guns and laundered money all over Operation Late...
Operation Condor and Iran-Contra there.
When Congress tried to investigate the CIA, it was Bill Barr.
Literally, Washington Post described him as the mop-up man, the CI's mop-up man to block congressional inquiry into Iran-Contra.
He then becomes the head of the Justice Department twice, you know, the second time under Trump.
And not only that, Bill Barr's father, Donald Barr, was the mentor to Jeffrey Epstein.
He was literally a student of Bill Barr's dad at the same high school.
elijah schaffer
All right.
So that being said, Bill Barr apparently was involved in the cover of Epstein.
I want to talk about this.
We don't talk about Epstein a lot.
There has been a massive cover-up in the Epstein situation and case.
And, you know, I do believe that our federal government no longer works autonomously as a conduit for the rights of the American people.
I think that they are so corrupt and so universally behind the turmoil and the destruction in the world that they are now working individually and autonomously as their own unit.
They're no longer a conduit.
They're their own unit of the world, and they look out for themselves and themselves only.
And I think that, you know, some of these crimes they never thought they were going to get caught for, like the criminal blackmailing of, you know, prominent people.
I just want to remind you, the world doesn't work the way it does because people all want to be evil.
But it's really hard.
It's really hard to not be blackmailed when you get onto a plane, you have, get a massage, you get, you know, fellatio from a hot girl, and then you find out that that hot girl was a kid.
And that's not a hot girl anymore.
You're now a child molester, and that is going to be a serious thing.
And again, I do side with Tucker's understanding of why this Epstein thing has to be covered up is because it's one thing for that to happen and then to go public and say, guys, I know it's hard to believe, but I just got blackmailed and I just had sexual intercourse with a child and I didn't know.
And it was a blackmail because I don't think you'd be held criminally liable for being a whistleblower if you didn't know.
But what happens is, is I agree with Tucker on this.
Then why hasn't anyone done that?
It's because in the Epstein case, they were repeat customers.
So they didn't just get blackmailed and set up in a situation where you thought she was older and you could prove in court that you criminally weren't understanding it was a setup, right?
Because that's entrapment.
Then you're not really technically committing a crime, in my opinion.
You were entrapped to commit a crime intentionally.
Not just someone said, no, I checked her ID.
She's 18, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
And you trusted the person, then it was intentional.
That is a different type of criminal racketeering.
But if you knew about it and repeated it, which it appears the people did, then it's no longer, they go, hey, you're blackmailing, now you got it now, but I'll just keep coming back then.
You know what I mean?
That's why I think it happened.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, and I think there's also the basic element, which is that these politicians, these famous people, they have lives.
They have relationships.
They are married.
They have kids.
I think there is a significant thing, like the battle that must occur within somebody who is thinking about whistleblowing, but also thinking about, you know, they're going to come out about this and nobody else is coming out about it.
Everybody else, by the way, who's involved is going to deny it.
They're going to cast you as crazy.
You're the one whistleblower, but it's, I would say, very unlikely that all of the other people who are involved are just going to take your side.
I think it's more likely that you're just going to get cast as a crazy person.
michael hennessey
Yeah, and they're going to want to shut you down immediately.
The second you come out and you start to say what happened, you start to share the truth, everybody who else is involved is going to go ahead.
Yeah, everybody else is going to go ahead and try to stop you from doing that.
I mean, you know, Bill Barr, it's, you know, I remember when he first came out, they said he was going to be the bulldog of justice, and that was far from the truth.
He just fell under all those other people that worked in the Trump previous administration that just fell through completely, like Mike Pence and all the others.
But I do believe, and I know you'll get it, I get attacked sometimes because they say it's anti-Semitic, but I do believe that it has to do with our ties to Israel.
Now, am I pointing out, just for disclaimer, I'm not pointing out against all Jews.
I'm saying the Israeli government, I do think that they have involvement in this.
I think that's the same thing when we've seen the JFK files get released.
The only thing the CIA said we couldn't talk about was Israel's involvement with the JFK assassination.
They wanted that part redacted.
So I do think it plays a whole part with trying to protect the greatest ally.
And that's what we're seeing here because this was a whole thing put together on purpose.
And the big predominant people, you know, you had Bill Clinton, you had all these other people who are involved.
And it makes you wonder, are you ever going to actually see justice for this?
Because all they do is they just keep pushing it aside.
Oh, the files are sitting on my desk.
Oh, you know, we handed out binders with no information.
And I definitely, definitely, definitely do not believe Kash Patel and Dan Bongino want to come out and say, you know, no, I've seen the files.
He killed himself.
I'm not buying it.
Cameras shutting off.
Everything just lining up the way it did.
I think what they did is they went ahead and they just silenced them themselves.
So this way, you know, the truth wouldn't come out.
kai schwemmer
Yeah.
And I mean, what is it?
More than 67% of Americans agree with you.
And that's the thing that is most crazy is that a reality that everybody sees, something that has been covered up in such a large way, something that is just so on its face ridiculous, the idea that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
Something that is so crazy that nearly all Americans believe Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
The fact that they can still get away with it, that is perhaps, you know, the most difficult part of all of this.
And it tells you that there are some ties that go much deeper than just whoever the president can appoint.
I don't think, you know, it's a very naive way of looking at politics.
If you believe that, well, we can just get like the cool president, the red president gets in there with the red party, with the elephant party, and he'll like put another guy into office, and we're going to find out about everything.
elijah schaffer
If we get more black people in the Republican Party, we'll finally win.
We'll get a round of applause for that as well.
kai schwemmer
Once we get Christian Walker in the CIA, that's when things are going to change.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, it all will.
And also more women, too, particularly minority women.
That's what's going to fix the system.
But it is true.
I was actually hoping Xavier Randiso would become the president.
unidentified
Men, because if we can get gay black men, that's my that's my goal.
michael hennessey
He is tied to Israel, so it's an instant push to the top.
elijah schaffer
I'm just finding this out for the future.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, so trigger you is ties to yeah, the whole thing.
sarah stock
Can we please play his TikTok from Israel?
elijah schaffer
Oh, we already did on the show.
sarah stock
Oh, you did?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we did a whole show on it.
michael hennessey
I mean, all our politicians have sworn allegiance to Israel, pretty much.
Because if you go against saying that, yeah, you want the endless wars, APAC's just going to outprice you, they're just going to make it so you can't win the election.
It's a shocker, right?
unidentified
I'm sorry.
elijah schaffer
I'm just here about this.
kai schwemmer
Are you guys serious?
elijah schaffer
Are your politicians don't serve the people of the United States?
Wait, so that would mean that maybe we've made decisions overseas that weren't for the benefit of the American people, but for foreign interests.
I think they're all we invaded Iraqi.
Saddam was killing his, it was at a nuke.
michael hennessey
It's not like the endless, yeah, exactly.
The weapons of mass destruction.
Um, it's not like all these endless wars are not pushed by you know our greatest ally.
They definitely are.
elijah schaffer
So weapons of DAS mestruction, they call them.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
So that's that's that's what we're getting into.
They're always going to be protecting them.
That's why I'm big on saying that we shouldn't have dual citizenship also as far as our political leaders go.
If you go ahead and you're going to represent America, then you should only have America's interests at the forefront.
But unfortunately, all of them, what we see time and time again is that they have ties to Israel.
And I've even seen people like Rick Scott and many others when they're even just giving videos of their updates about their bills that they're passing.
The only sign you see, the only flag you see behind them is the Israel flag.
It's not the American flag.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, and it's very unfortunate.
Like, I just wish that America would stick up for itself more.
I wish that President Trump would say something that is more offensive to me than chance of free Palestine is chance of death to America.
michael hennessey
Well, they say it's like saying hail.
kai schwemmer
And it is somehow worse.
It is somehow worse to burn the flag of a foreign nation than it is to burn the American flag.
In fact, Americans are particularly vehement in the defense of burning the flag.
Whereas if this were to happen to the flag of just some geopolitical ally, that would get you kicked out of school.
So I wish that our pretext for making decisions was just our love for the nation instead of not prioritizing a minority.
elijah schaffer
I think that's fundamentally, I want to talk about that a little bit more because there is an interesting discussion.
A lot of times people just talk about this issue, but there is a lot more going on in the country.
Be careful now.
Be careful talking about, hey, be careful.
No one will get that right.
michael hennessey
I'm not going to myself.
elijah schaffer
No, no, yeah.
I was like, be careful now.
Hey.
We don't need to talk about that.
Hey, anyway.
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That being said, I do want to, we need to switch into some cultural topics since we're already going in that direction.
Let's get into our topics for today as Antifa has crashed a service, a Christian service in Seattle.
This is actually sad and hilarious.
Let's get into it.
Frontlines, powered by Turning Point USA.
This video originally posted by Frontlines, an investigative journalist arm of Turning Point.
I think of all the things Turning Point's doing, Frontlines has been pretty fantastic.
Not everyone who works there is awesome, but we know that some of the people that work there are great, including Kaylin Delmeida.
I think Katie Davis Court is there as well.
But a violent mob of Antifa militants tried to disrupt a Christian concert in Seattle over the weekend.
This is probably work from Cho Sho.
What's his name again?
Jordan Cho?
Jonathan Cho.
Okay.
Jonathan Cho, he's really fantastic.
I don't know how they got Jonathan Cho on at Turning Point because I feel like Jonathan Cho was way less right-wing during the riots in 2020.
And I feel like he didn't even want to affiliate with me because I was like too right-wing.
That's what I believe happened.
And then now he works for Turning Point?
That's actually radical because everyone knows it doesn't get more based than civic nationalism, right?
Check this out.
This is like five minutes, but this is just like kind of crazy.
I do want to make sure you give credit to them, though, because their watermark seems to be off the screen.
Don't sue us, please.
Check this out.
jonathan choe
Hundreds of Christian worshipers flooded Seattle's Cal Anderson Park Saturday afternoon to pray for the city and take a stand for traditional family values.
Especially against transgender ideology targeting children, all part of the May Day USA revival movement sweeping across the nation.
unidentified
And the Lord says, sound the alarm!
Sound the alarm!
jonathan choe
Lift up your voice!
But a time of blessing and praise quickly devolved into chaos.
Far-left activists and Antifa militants tried to disrupt the concert.
Throwing water balloons at the crowd, menacing attendees, and some activists even tried rushing the stage.
unidentified
I would say there's two kingdoms clashing here today.
There's the kingdom of God, and then there's the kingdom of Satan.
jonathan choe
Which led to numerous clashes and scuffles with police.
All these antoevised by activists.
And then you got the concert going on here right now.
What's it been like today?
unidentified
I think it just illustrates the idea that people who champion free speech and champion free expression are ultimately threatened and irritated by anybody else who has an opposing message.
jonathan choe
Russell Johnson with Pursuit Church was one of several pastors from Seattle participating with their congregations.
unidentified
The mayor is trying to declare a state of emergency to shut down the event, but we're not going anywhere.
jonathan choe
He says some of his volunteers were assaulted during the melee.
unidentified
We've got people with bloody faces.
jonathan choe
That's his worship pastor, Michael Leidy, stopping a man from crashing the gathering.
unidentified
It's absolutely crazy.
jonathan choe
As the day progressed, another group of trans activists marched into the park, adding to the number of people targeting followers of Jesus Christ with nasty messages.
Vile curse words and full-blown debauchery.
But even with the taunting, middle fingers, and disparaging comments, Folake Kellogg says prayers of love and forgiveness were sent to their attackers on the other side.
unidentified
Not only do we come here to show the love of God, but we hope that by the time we are done here, that the atmosphere in Seattle will change.
We will be setting back up the dent line, and any counter-protesters are going to be escorted back behind it.
jonathan choe
Officers eventually put up a metal barricade, separating the violent mob from concert goers after more militants tried to breach the police line.
When all was said and done, 23 people were hauled away in handcuffs, one officer injured, and a city left in desperate need of healing and leadership.
Instead, Mayor Bruce Harrell sent out a controversial statement that appeared to be more divisive.
They all were concerted and extreme right-wing rally that went against the LGBTQ values of the city.
unidentified
Isn't that crazy?
jonathan choe
That is implying the peaceful worshipers brought this on themselves over the weekend.
Harrell also questioned why a permit to use the park was issued to the group.
I think they're going to have changes.
This got the attention of the Trump administration.
unidentified
This is the president's agenda.
jonathan choe
Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmee Dylan wrote on X: To deny a group a permit to pray in a public space because of crowd reaction is the classic heckler's veto, which is barred by the First Amendment.
Seattle's mayor clearly needs an education in viewpoint discrimination.
unidentified
The mayor of Seattle owes Christians in Washington state an apology for his bigoted remarks.
jonathan choe
Pastor Johnson eviscerated the mayor during his Sunday sermon.
unidentified
Church people were assaulted.
And the mayor of Seattle has the audacity to blame Christians for the violence.
jonathan choe
And he's vocalizing hundreds of evangelicals for a protest in front of City Hall on Tuesday.
unidentified
I mean, it's not just us who've been assaulted.
jonathan choe
Johnson says they're demanding an apology after Harrell victim-blamed Christians.
unidentified
No, the police know because they see it on the front lines who are the real agitators.
jonathan choe
The pastor says it's also time to send a strong message to political leaders in Washington state who have failed to condemn far-left violence for years.
In the end, none of the Christians retaliated and were safely escorted out by police after the concert.
Many saying the persecution energized their faith.
unidentified
The Bible says this is going to happen.
You know, this is nothing new.
It's something we're used to.
And we just love the opportunity to love on them and feel the gospel.
jonathan choe
And are now planning to pray even harder for Seattle.
unidentified
I'm loving on them.
jonathan choe
Hoping to conquer hate with the love of Christ.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so a couple things here.
michael hennessey
Could you even imagine if this was any other religion?
If this was like, you know, Islam, like Christian shut down Muslims from Jews, it would be all over the news.
elijah schaffer
Oh, Jewish would be in jail.
They would have been shot.
michael hennessey
It'd be crazy.
You know, it's like they protest bombed.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael hennessey
Jesus said himself, you know, if the world hates you, remember they hated me before they hated you.
I may not be saying the words exactly how he put it, but that's what we see.
Christianity is like the number one most attacked religion.
You know, you can make fun of it in movies.
You can make fun of it.
You know, pretty much anywhere.
You can attack Jesus over and over.
And it's allowed.
They allow it, you know, which is crazy because we are a Christian nation.
You know, Christ is king, and it's just, it's tiring to see this time and time again.
unidentified
So real.
kai schwemmer
It's that verse, I believe in John, you know, in the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer.
I love that.
I love the way they were reacting.
And then he says, for I have overcome the world.
It's like the game is over.
We already have the winner.
You have to be like silly to fight in a battle that you've already lost.
But, you know, these people protesting didn't get the memo.
But what I loved is the way that the Christians like interacted with the fact that they were loving.
And by the way, what's this whole thing?
It's like, don't mess with kids is the thing that the Christians are saying.
What's the response by like the LGBT activists?
We're going to.
Yeah, we're going to storm your event with families and children and like beat you up.
elijah schaffer
But the real angle here, the real angle, I want to get down to the rudimentary issue in a lot of these large cities that Cho brought up in his news review is the framing of this as a far-right extremist event and the failure to condemn far-left violence.
What I noticed is that the attacks on Christian nationalism have been at the core root of both the right and the left's new focus.
So what James Lindsay and Colin Wright, who are buffoons, to put it lightly, entertaining people, very entertaining, but nonetheless.
They try to coin this term woke right.
And they came out talking about how really what they're trying to stop is a real nationalist slash Christian nationalist movement.
James Lindsay said he was going to try to deceive Christians to act like a Christian to get their attention.
And so you have this move from the liberals, from the, we call them the gay democratic liberals on the on the right, which are pushing for homosexuality to be the status quo.
They're pushing for legalization of drugs.
These people are very godless.
They're very afraid of Christian nationalism rising.
Now, that doesn't surprise me.
You're a gay atheist and you don't like Christianity?
Well, I'm not surprised.
This is the classic, you know, anti-God movement.
However, recently I went to right-wing watch, which is how I found out about Joel Webbin.
I found out that almost all of right-wing watch, it used to be against people that were the white nationalists or pro-white, pro-Western ideas, they're all attacking Christians, pastors, and Christian nationalists.
So there's been a shift in the left to attack Christianity, not just attack the right-wing or white supremacy.
And that's an interesting shift.
I don't know if it's because the white nationalists, it didn't work.
So it was a bad, you know, was it profitable?
But all I know is that the fact that they're doing that means they're getting funding to do that, right?
These are NGOs.
These are non-profits.
And so people are funding them to try to undermine the rise of patriotic Christianity.
And I think that there's been a huge movement wrought why?
By the Christian coalition of the country to fight against this proliferation of LGBTQ ideas and transgenderism.
And so what they're seeing is that there has been a force for good in the country where Christians have sort of come together and brought conservatism back into the classroom, back into the family, and are fighting for these ideas.
And they see Christ as the root enemy, right?
So what's insane is that these people gathered to profess their faith, right?
Being against transgenderism wasn't a political statement.
It is a faith statement, a statement of belief.
This is not only protected by the First Amendment, this is at the core value of why our nation was founded, was on this autonomy of faith, right?
This Christian duplicity to move away from the Anglican church into this Protestantism, this form of, you know, many say Calvinistic predestination that we were designed in manifest destiny to take this land and live here.
Now, what you have is you have communists, Bolshevik communists, coming and destroying the event.
And this is what's happening.
Then, instead of the mayor saying, we strongly condemn this, he says, well, their faith is what agitated them.
This is the same thing as the case yesterday about the shirt that says there's only two genders.
Our faith and our belief in the reality and the truth of not only of biology with genders or our faith in the one true God, that in and of itself is an aggressive stance.
You got to be very careful with this.
It's very dangerous.
You know, so now, like, like Harmit said, God bless her soul, praying in public is an attack, right?
This is an aggressive thing.
And we have to nip this in the bud as a nation.
You know, I think that perhaps, you know, not only is that, is he negligent, I think a formal complaint should be, a legal complaint should be against pushed against him for violating the human rights of the citizens of the Christians of Seattle.
I'm not joking.
It's not big.
It's Christiansy to fight.
I hope the pastor does file a lawsuit saying, hey, his words have not endangered the lives of our parishioners because it makes it seem like our public display of our faith is inviting violence.
Right.
And that they're not at fault.
We're at fault.
The victims are to blame.
That's what I'm saying.
That's my whole case.
sarah stock
And it's so crazy him saying that it's not the values of his city.
It's like, what do you mean?
Obviously, it is because there's people there who value Christianity.
It's like, what, you have like a piece of paper that says, like, oh, Seattle only values like transgender kids or something.
unidentified
Like, what do you mean?
sarah stock
The values of your city.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, it's absolutely wild.
And this is always, you know, this has for decades and decades now, since, you know, the whole writing about the authoritarian personality, you know, it is the attempt to cast any normal American person as a fascist.
And that's what they were chanting.
They were chanting to Christian worshipers, you are fascists.
unidentified
They hadn't made any God hates fascists.
kai schwemmer
Actually, he loves them.
They hadn't made any political statement other than, you know, like you said, Elijah, the affirmation of a sex binary, that we are all created in the image of God and we are either male or female.
They didn't say anything about any kind of fascist doctrine or policy.
And this absolutely shows what the attempt of the left is.
It is to make any kind of Christian, any kind of European, any kind of white, you know, normal behavior cast as a metaphysical enemy.
elijah schaffer
They remove the Bolsheviks.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, that's the other question.
If we ask these questions like throughout all of the last like 60 or up to 80 years, you'll see one pattern, and that is to cast everything that is normal as evil.
And it is religious.
It is absolutely religious.
Jordan Peterson in his Jubilee debate had one clan that I really liked.
Everybody worships.
Everybody is religious in some way, even if they don't admit it.
These people just don't, you know, believe in Satan.
These people think that Satan is Adolf Hitler.
These people don't believe in Jesus.
They believe in themselves.
It is this radical self-love that turns man into God that they are professing.
And it is fascism that is metaphysical evil rather than Satan and actual evil.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael hennessey
And time and time again, we just see them protected.
Like you just mentioned there, the mayors protect them.
And I even remember when Biden had his debate with Trump, he said it's not an Antifa's an idea.
It's not an organization.
And what they do is they just, they allow it to continue.
You mentioned the kid as well.
So.
elijah schaffer
But God bless him.
I know Mendoza was on the ground in 2020 with the Mendoza report.
You got to basically thank you for exposing all the far-left violence.
michael hennessey
Thank you, Mendoza.
michael mendoza
I was right there in Kenosha.
I got punched in the face by a black person there.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he's the one who killed the black people in Kenosha.
michael mendoza
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, that was in the back.
elijah schaffer
No, I want to say a personal thing.
You know, a lot of people do this sort of gonzo guerrilla journalism, but initially in 2020, it was basically just Andy Noah and myself kind of going around the country filming this stuff and pushing it out to the right wing.
A lot of really great people sort of followed suit and sort of started going out.
We go out as a crew, right, to these events.
But God bless Katie.
She was one of those people back then for continuing this work and for showing what's still going on in Seattle.
I mean, Katie is just a killer.
Like, and I, I know I'm not, I'm going to sound gay in this regard because she's a woman.
It's like, oh, a woman should be working, whatever.
But I'm saying in total respect, I've worked with her many, many times.
She's a freaking beast out on the field.
She'll get punched, pepper sprayed, tackled.
I've seen her just get mauled by grown trans dudes, like big old kicks with a penis.
You know what I mean?
And they're just like, goosh, like coming down on her.
I've seen her block hits.
Like, I mean, she's just so talented.
And the way that she exposed this and Jonathan Cho, too, because she has some other videos and someone gave her some credit.
She was helping film this project.
It's just like this, this crew is so good.
And I'm going to remind people that this is the best way to get into media.
The best way to do this is not to start a podcast.
It's to go out in the field and expose the people you disagree with.
Whether that's from, you know, James O'Keefe's version of undercover filming or you're going out and you're filming protests, being in the mix is important because people want to make sure that you're not grifting and you get authenticity by putting something at risk, right?
Anyone can sit in front of a camera and just talk about ideas, but what have you lost?
What have you put on the line?
Have you ever sacrificed anything for your beliefs?
And, you know, I haven't done much personally, but I do remember, you know, just a reminder of back in the day when people had podcasts, they would show my stuff and they wouldn't even, you know, cite me or whatever to frustrate me.
We got to give really big credit to those people for putting in the hard work.
And we got to support the Gonza journalists as well who are putting their safety in the line, including these Christians to be activists and actually, you know, show that, you know, it's crazy.
Activism is just praying in the park in Seattle, but it's true.
It is a very dangerous country.
We are headed down a very dangerous path.
And I do want to just digress here real fast.
Last thoughts, everybody.
Go ahead.
kai schwemmer
Yeah, I just wanted to add as well that it seemed like there was an update about this.
I don't know if they are exactly related, but there was also these kind of protests by these leftist activists outside of the Seattle City Hall.
This is something that was happening today.
So it's like, I haven't done enough research to know if these are intricately tied together.
I had some mutuals.
Cam Agby was talking about it as well.
And it was insane.
It's like, even if you go and you try to have some redress of your grievances, you will be mobbed there.
You will be assaulted.
You had people who had detransitioned who were being attacked like in an attempt to murder them because they represent something that the leftists who were protesting were not a fan of.
So this is just insane.
And one of the things, admittedly, like I'll be even-handed in reporting and in talking about these issues.
If you look at the demographics of Seattle and if you look at the demographics of the protesters, this is not the kind of crime that happens in most of these major cities in America.
These are the majority white people, but it shows you the actual effect of the ideology.
It's not people killing each other for drugs.
We know that there is something that is just as powerful and inciting violence as our drugs, alcohol, and gang violence.
And that is this kind of ideological terrorism.
sarah stock
It literally is terrorism.
They're trying to scare people out of worshiping people.
elijah schaffer
Let me let me digress here and just say this to summarize.
Dan Bongino did say that we've asked him to fully investigate allegations of targeted violence against religious groups at the Seattle concert.
Freedom of religion isn't a suggestion.
And so look, yeah, we had criticisms of Dan Bongino with the Epstein stuff.
We obviously realized with Bill Barr, everything going on, you know, clearly there's something deeper going on that we don't know.
That doesn't mean that he's not doing good work outside of that.
That is important to understand.
You know, politicians, people do get blackmailed.
Things happen that are wrong.
But honestly, I think with Harmee and with Dan, you know, who are both Christian.
Well, Harmeet's a Hindu.
They're both religious, I should say.
And, you know, regardless of even their differing religions, you know, there is a value set of Americans who do care about our liberties.
And so, as much as I don't want the country to become Hindu, and I don't, you know, necessarily love what happened with the Epstein cover-up, what I believe with Dan, I am grateful for their work, particularly in fighting on behalf of Christians here.
And I think that we have to take the wins that we can.
I will say thank you so much again for watching another episode of The Rift on RiftTV.com.
If you want to find me and follow me, you can find me at Elijah Schaefer on X. You can also find me on our locals, ElijahSchaefer.locals.com, to join the community.
If people want to find you and follow you, how can they support you?
michael hennessey
You can find me on X as well as Instagram.
I'm at Snowflake underscore news.
Just put out breaking stories like we had today and just try to deep dive into it.
So, love for you to check it out.
elijah schaffer
Sarah.
sarah stock
Yeah, you can find me on X at Sarah C Stock or on Instagram at sarah.stock.politics.
elijah schaffer
Of course, Kai, thank you so much again for being here these last few days.
It's been wonderful.
kai schwemmer
Thank you, Elijah.
Yeah, you can find me on X at Kai Schwemmer.
You can also find me on Instagram, K-A-I-K-L-I-P-S, and as a contributor here on The Rift, it has been a pleasure, Elijah.
Thank you so much, man.
elijah schaffer
Amazing.
Thank you guys so much.
And again, you follow Mike Mendoza.
What is it again?
michael mendoza
Mike Mendoza, JPG.
You can follow me there.
And yeah, good to be back.
So far, I had a successful launch of the show this week.
So only up from here.
And I'm looking forward to it.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
To the rest of you guys, thank you so much again for watching.
Remember, we are live Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. Eastern time.
Again, apologies.
Today's show is a little shorter than normal because we're headed out on a flight.
It's been pre-recorded.
So if you send super chats, if you missed it at the beginning while it was streaming, they will read your super chats tomorrow live on the show.
And then tomorrow's show at 7, they'll be wrapping up a little early as well, around 8, 8.05 p.m.
Because then at 8 p.m. Eastern time, Sarah and I will be on Timpool Lord Willing, as long as our plane doesn't crash into a female pilot on the way to DC in a Black Hawk helicopter, which is actually true, right?
We don't want that to happen.
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