March 10, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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In Defense of "Xenophobic Nationalism" - Sarah Stock HUMILIATES Woke Podcaster Sam Seder
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There's people losing their minds saying that Jubilee is platforming fascism.
And actually, I think that Jubilee might have taken down my video on purpose from their TikTok account because they got so much backlash just because I said it on their account.
But I don't think it should really be that controversial.
But we got to look at that for a second because we're going to talk about what you mean by xenophobic nationalism and why you chose that word because it is like kind of crazy.
It's a very interesting position.
I mean, it's not the way to make friends, especially in the Uni Party, by just coming out and speaking the truth.
I love it, though.
We support it here.
That's why we enjoy all of your work and we appreciate what you put into it.
But for people that didn't see her appearance here, let's take a look at her appearance with Sam Cedar on the recent episode of Jubilee, 20 conservatives against one liberal.
I was responding to Sam Cedar's claim, which was that if you, the only people who don't regret voting for Trump are billionaires, xenophobic nationalists, or Christian fundamentalists.
So I came in and what he's basically saying is that Trump supporters are xenophobic nationalists.
So what I take that to mean is that Trump supporters are, for some reason, bigoted or whatever for not wanting their country to literally be invaded by the third world.
And so, if that's what it means to be xenophobic, sure, I'm a xenophobic nationalist, if that's what it means.
I just think like these words have just lost all meaning.
So, I don't really care if I'm going to be called that anyway for having that view.
Well, we have an American culture that is, I mean, for the entire history of America, it's been majority a mix of Europeans, mostly Western Europeans, and then more came over later and they assimilated.
And it's also been mostly Christian.
And I think even, and I'm not even saying that, like, you know, everyone has like a personal relationship with God or anything.
Like, obviously, we've become very secular, but I think we totally take for granted how much of our American culture is actually based in Christianity.
And also, obviously, it's based in European identity.
I mean, we all speak English.
We're not, like, we're not like an Asian country.
We're not an African country.
Like, what are we?
Obviously, we're made up of people from European background who all came together.
They want to start a new life.
And someone like me, I don't know.
I don't even know what my European ethnicity is.
I don't have a country in Europe I can't point back to and say, you know, I'm German or I'm Anglo or whatever.
I just know that I'm American.
I have American blood.
And we have a very distinct culture.
And I mean, I don't think it should be controversial to admit that.
And we do have obviously people who are in America who aren't white and who aren't Christian, but it's kind of been an expectation that when you come to America, you try to assimilate.
At least you try to, you learn to speak English.
That's a European language.
You eat our food.
You try to, you know, like practice our way of life.
You try to be polite.
You don't throw trash everywhere like they do in other countries.
There's like a basic level of decency that kind of comes from European culture.
And we're kind of starting to lose that.
That's what I think.
I don't think a lot of these people who are here really care about American culture, what it even means to be American anymore.
I mean, you said it's like, you know, obviously European, which is synonymous with being white, right?
I mean, there are non-white Europeans, but even they didn't integrate, you know, as well.
There's always a little bit of issues with the Italians, particularly, right?
Because they look a little more Latin.
Maybe even the Spanish were actually conquered, you know, especially when you're talking about manifest destiny.
It's more of the Anglo-Celtic definitions of who we are.
Why do you think someone like Sam particularly is so uncomfortable with acknowledging the reality of our history, of our shared history and our identity?
What is it about him?
Is it that he's a Democrat?
Is he a leftist?
Why do you think that he feels so squeamish to tell the truth that America was founded by white Europeans and it was founded on a Christian principle ethic?
Well, I think someone like Sam, who's a total progressive, he's basically trying to deny our history because he wants to change our future.
He wants to pretend that we've always been this melting pot, pretend that it's totally okay if America is, say, 20% Mexican, 20% Asian, 20% European, 20% Jewish, whatever, and that it would still be American because that is our only identity is a melting pot when that's just like so far from reality.
You know, it's just like totally out of touch with history.
And what still we have a majority of Americans that kind of do have a shared culture.
Even a lot of non-white Americans still come here and participate in that culture.
So I just think like denying that, it's like you're trying to erase an entire group of people in our identity.
People don't want to admit that America existed before the 1960s.
We're not taught a lot about before World War II, except for the fact that we won a civil war and that all the people before that were bad.
They were racist.
They had slaves.
And then, well, even though it wasn't us and we liberated the Jewish people, allegedly, we still have to pay the cost of the Holocaust, right?
We have to pay the price.
And we're all guilty and white people are not allowed to have an identity or country because some Jews were killed in the 1930s and 40s.
And it is sort of this narrative we've all collectively agreed upon.
But I thought what was interesting too is it seemed like a lot of Trump supporters disagreed with you that your statements might not just be considered right-wing.
You even mentioned it yourself.
You would consider yourself to be further right or more conservative than even Donald Trump.
What was the general reception you thought from the Trump supporters during that time when you were coming out with these very strong nationalist ideas?
And I kind of expected that just looking around, which is why I'm sure I came across super passionate in the clip.
And I was kind of talking over him a bit.
I was trying to speak pretty loudly.
That was because I was trying to get my point across because I knew I was going to get voted out so quickly.
I wanted to make sure I spoke the truth before I did.
But yeah, it's really because, I mean, this is what happens when you try to have this whole, you know, big 10 party with the MAGA movement is it's kind of just changed what it means to be conservative in general.
I said recently, I don't even want to identify as conservative anymore because it's just lost all meaning.
So my political views from being a Christian come from being a Christian and from being a nationalist.
And I'm not ashamed to say that.
And up until recently, that's what a lot of like, that's what being conservative kind of meant anyway.
Most conservative views came from being Christian, being a nationalist.
I would even say Trump was a little bit closer to that in his first term.
So let me ask you a couple, you know, interesting perspectives here.
Brandon Tatum, who's a popular commentator, was recently talking, disagreeing with a guest that we had on the show last week.
And he was claiming too that the identity of the West is rooted in being European, in this collective wide identity of our shared culture and history.
And Brandon Tatum, who is a very large creator with millions of subscribers, commented on the video clip from the show and said, this is completely wrong.
America's values are just Christian values, which would then assume that, you know, basically our values should be duplicated anywhere in the world where there's Christians, including in the Congo, which is predominantly Christian.
How much do you think that our identity in America is based on the shared identity of cultural and racial background and history with our Christian morals and beliefs?
Or is Brandon Tatum correct that, you know, maybe you are a bigot, Sarah?
Maybe xenophobia isn't correct and really race and culture and identity have nothing to do with it.
It's all just whether or not they believe in Jesus.
No, I mean, you can have two cultures, two countries that are both Christian that have completely different cultures and completely different groups of people.
And no, I just think that's completely wrong.
You know, and also just saying that like there's no such thing as like European values.
It's like, where do you think the American Revolution came from?
You know, where do you think the Enlightenment came from?
The Enlightenment was a European movement.
Liberalism came from Europe.
That's what America was founded on.
Whether or not you agree with liberalism, that's true.
America was literally founded on also on Greek philosophy.
It's a big foundation of it.
So I don't know.
It's just like ridiculous to say that there's no such thing as like European values or identity.
It's like, first of all, everyone who came to America came from Europe because they wanted freedom of religion because they were battling over Catholics versus Protestants there and they didn't want to be killed anymore.
So they want to start their own country.
I'm pretty sure that's like a pretty European thing.
You know, they didn't come over from Africa with African problems.
They were battling out and want to start a new country.
Well, yeah, I mean, because I think the Africans, a lot of them hadn't invented a wheel yet.
So it's a little hard.
You know, it's a lot.
Even to this day, right?
The ships they're using across the English Channel and to get into the Mediterranean, they're just like basically, you know, sticks glued together and with some buttons on top.
And they're sinking and they're not really, you know, advanced.
It's absolutely true, you know.
You know, they sold their own people into slavery and it just so happened that the Arabs, the Jews, and some Europeans had the ships to transport them, right?
But realistically speaking, I mean, there's nothing wrong with this.
And I think there's a lot of this is this white guilt.
I know this is a topic close to your heart.
I looked up your Wikipedia and it said that you are white, right?
It's a very controversial thing today.
People don't even like talking about that word.
It's a very hard, hard, hard fact to swallow.
You know, it's like, you know, people say, don't talk about white issues.
Don't talk about white people.
There's a lot of pressure, right?
To focus on other issues, to focus on Israel, to focus on anything else except for white identity, white collectivism.
And if you do, they call you a white supremacist, hateful, you know, and sometimes xenophobic.
But you seem like you've embraced this slander.
You seem like you're like, you know what?
Call me what you want.
Where does that come from?
Where do you get the idea that you just don't care anymore if people are going to slander you with these pretty mean labels?
Yeah, because saying white Americans and Americans is redundant because the reason why they put hyphens and mention someone else is because everyone knows Americans are European descent.
That's what we are.
And it's a hard pill to swallow.
I want your last opinion on this as we close out here.
Number one, you know, I think you did a fantastic job.
As I've mentioned to you, it is crazy so early in your career to just come out and it's like it's like being like, yeah, I'm a Nazi.
You know what I mean?
It's like, all right, I get what you mean.
And it looks like most people did get what you mean, though.
And that's actually a good sign of the times because sometimes I think people are a little too retarded that they wouldn't understand the entendre, right?
Of embracing slander in order to just get past that phase, right?
It's like getting past the talking phase.
Like, all right, call me names, label me.
Now let's get into the issue kind of thing.
Let's get past, let's get past the cheap date.
Let's get right into the relationship.
And you did that with Sam.
You manhandled him.
And many are saying that you humiliated him.
How do you feel as a young woman going up against such an old and decrepit and mouse-like, some people say, oh, mouse-like looking fellow with very billowy physiogamy, you know, very soft, someone that doesn't seem like they could withstand much.
How do you feel like you did?
And what are you feeling with all the newfound fans that are walking around saying, you know, calling you Aryan queen, all these random, funny statements?
I mean, it's got to be an interesting perspective.
Yeah, I mean, facing off Sam, it's like this guy's just so condescending.
And I noticed as soon as he sat down, I think a lot of even people from the left debate people.
They have kind of like a bit of an open mind or they're giving them, you know, they're approaching in good faith.
But it's pretty clear that Sam is just like totally condescending, like wasn't willing to even really listen to what I was saying.
He was just repeating talking points like, oh, it's a melting pot.
It's like, well, what does that even mean?
You know, like just totally denying reality.
And he was happy to do that.
So I don't know.
I didn't find it was like too scary to debate him or anything because that's just like clearly he, I don't know, he doesn't have a lot of like weight he's pulling intellectually with these types of things.
But yeah, when it comes to the DM marriage requests I've been getting, it's definitely been a lot.
It's kind of funny, but I'm sure it'll blow over soon.
Yeah, well, I know I know that you just went on Piers Morgan as well, which I think will be released later.
So, I mean, you know, perhaps it's just the very beginning.
And we do hope that for you, that, you know, this isn't a one-hit wonder and that we really do believe that your work speaks for itself.
And people, if people want to find Sarah, you can follow Sarah Stock on X at Sarah C Stock.
That is her X account.
You should make sure you find and follow her.
It's linked down below.
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I know you're also on Instagram, all the other social media.
So we really appreciate that.
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