Woke Right DESTROYED by James Lindsay.. Total Con Inc. VICTORY? | Guest: Devon Stack
Recently, James Lindsay, in his infinite knowledge and wisdom, set out on a path to utterly DESTROY and DECIMATE the “Woke Right”.. But did he really achieve the level of victory he thinks he did? And what even are the defining characteristics of someone in the “Woke Right”? We discuss..Show more Devon Stack of BlackPilled joins us for another episode of NIGHTLY OFFENSIVE!
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It's a very interesting time in my life right now, particularly because we're living in a day and age.
Oh, there you go.
We're living in a very different day and age where the West has gotten into a specific time where people are now freaking out because in England in particular, the number one name inside of London, not just in London, but across the entire kingdom, has taken on a new form.
Check this out.
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Name Mohammed has overtaken Noah as the most popular for baby boys in England and Wales in the latest statistics from 2023.
It's the first time Mohammed has topped the list after climbing from second place in 2022 and up from fifth in 2021.
Olivia, though, remains the most popular name for baby girls for the seventh year running, followed by Amelia and Isla.
The Office for National Statistics says Mohammed ranked number one in four out of nine regions in Alua Akbar.
As Kier Sturmer said directly, that we are in a day and age when the experiment of the great replacement was set before you.
But the problem is, is that it was successful, at least unintentionally, in the fact that white people in London will now be a minority by 2050.
We have more Indians running the United States than we do have white people who love our country.
And if you notice those things, you are the woke right.
And ladies and gentlemen, we have been decimated.
Constantine Christen, James Lindsay.
I think Constantine lost weight.
And then whatever weight he lost, James Lindsay absorbed it like Jigglypuff, sucking in, you know, the force of nature.
Apparently, today they won their battle against the disgusting, the reprehensible, pro-Hitler, anti-Semitic woke right, whom we are going to destroy tonight.
My guest is Devin Stack from Blackpield, who'll be on in just a moment.
And he is one of the best arbiters and historians defeating people who are woke right that I might know of in my entire history here.
Anyway, let's start the show.
All right, my name's...
I don't know what's going on tonight.
Anyway, my name is Elijah Schaefer.
We have a great show for you.
It's absolutely fantastic.
So obviously, in terms of these topics, I happen to know a nigga.
If you can go to my screen here, Noah Nigga, he's a Noah Nigga 10.
He's actually a real person.
He's picked for a college football team, N-O-A-H-K-N-I-G-G-A, Noah Nigga.
That's not even a joke.
I'm not joking with you on that one.
Noah was just overtaken in all of the UK as the number one name was previously known as Noah.
Anyway, speaking of a nigga I know, Devin Stack, welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
How are you doing?
And are you surprised that in the UK, Muhammad, and I say it very specifically, is the number one name in the entire kingdom?
Yeah, and that's what's kind of crazy to me too, because obviously when we talk about this, you know, we ended up moving out of just even trying to mask the fact that there's replacement going on.
And I think what's craziest is that not only are they admitting the replacement, but now, if you want to preserve your bloodline, if you want to preserve your faith in Christ, if you want to preserve your country, you're now not only the enemy of the left, the woke left, the progressives, the communists.
In fact, the right-wing establishment is waging a direct war on anybody who's right-wing who could even reek of the smell of wanting to preserve the West.
That in and of itself is considered now a toxic level of nationalism.
You know, as we jump into this, we're going to be talking about this complex issue of the woke right tonight.
I'm being a bit facetious here.
But Devin, for people who don't know you, why don't you introduce yourself and tell me your answer here?
Is the woke right a real thing or is it just something made up by gay fat atheists?
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My background is, a lot of what I do is I come from like a lot of, I think a lot of people on the right now come from a libertarian background and kind of grew out of that.
And now I'm watching in horror as a lot of the work that I did when I used to make libertarian propaganda way back in the early 2000s, the fruits of that labor are kind of blooming and blossoming.
This is essentially what the libertarians always wanted.
They wanted the Republican Party to embrace like this race-blind view of, you know, like this, you know, well, not that the Republican Party was ever really racially conscious anyway.
I mean, going back to the 1980s, you can look at the Republican primary debates between Reagan and George Bush Sr., for example.
And they make it very clear that, oh, we're not racist.
We don't care about immigration because, you know, they're different people.
We care about it because of economics.
So in that sense, the Republican right, the establishment right, has never really given a crap about white people, or at least not explicitly.
But implicitly, I think white people always kind of assume that they did.
You know, that's why they're always, you know, the policies that they support are policies that would inevitably be beneficial to white people.
You know, everything from back the blue, which, you know, of course is antiquated now, where they see the cops as like the line between diversity in themselves and their suburban neighborhoods, to even supporting Israel.
Indirectly, they did that because they thought that was in white interest.
Well, we need to go fight the Muslims over there.
If we don't fight the Muslims over there in the Middle East, they're going to come over here and blow themselves up.
So, everything that the Republican Party presented on its face, it seemed to be very pro-white and attracted white people as a result of that.
Well, we're tough on immigration.
We're tough on crime.
We're against the terrorists, the sand people and everything else.
Really, behind that really thin veneer, that's never really been the objective of the Republican Party, as I think many people are starting to wake up to.
And that's what this woke right thing is meant to do.
It's meant to sweep everyone back into the sandbox and gatekeep their ideology so that they basically become neocons again from the 1990s.
They want you to stop thinking about the Middle East in a more complex way, where wait a second, maybe we're serving the interests of a group that isn't white Americans.
Maybe we're actually serving the interests of foreign people or in terms of the immigration.
Maybe actually we're not serving the interests of white people by importing all kinds of people that would, rather than take the jobs of low-skilled wage earners and the kinds of jobs that really white people aren't competing for, but instead, let's welcome in all these legal immigrants that are going to compete for white jobs.
Maybe that's not such a great idea.
And so, this woke right is really a way of trying to minimize.
And it works for a lot of, you know, works for the boomers who don't really have even a good understanding of what woke even means.
It's a buzzword.
And buzzwords work for people who are low information.
So they hear, you know, woke right.
Oh, that means that you're bad.
That means you're, you know, it's the horseshoe theory thing that they tried pushing.
Even, you know, I'd say five or six years ago, woke right existed.
It was just, they called it horseshoe theory.
You know, the further to the right that you go, actually, you're getting more left-wing.
And it's just really absurd that this kind of messaging would work on anyone.
And it's not.
I think that's the good thing about if you look at these conversations on Twitter, the only people that this kind of messaging is working on are people that are out to lunch anyway.
James Lindsay in particular, he gets ratioed on almost every post.
I mean, I've done it myself a couple of times.
And I think that the mask is off.
But although that said, that said, look who got elected president.
And look who still, I mean, there's lots of people who still believe in this fantasy that Trump isn't exactly the kind of person that the people pushing this woke right narrative would want in office.
I mean, Trump's the one that's supporting the mass legal immigration, supporting Israel, you know, all these same things.
Well, listen, we're going to talk about this because I want to break, I think this is one of the most fundamentally important conversations that we could have.
Because while this conversation about the woke right is kind of silly, as you've mentioned, it's really the same group of people we've been talking about for a long time.
They've been called the alt-right.
They've been called white nationalists.
They've been called anti-Semites.
They've been called my friends and also called the woke right.
Now, unfortunately for them, the woke right is less white than it has ever been.
I'm not saying that's a good thing.
I'm just saying that that is the truth.
It's a very diverse movement today.
And it's also somehow converged with this Christian nationalism, not just Catholicism, but also with this attack on God, which we'll talk about.
So these people are liberal.
They are obese.
They are faggots.
And they hate you and your God.
And they must be eradicated.
Intellectually, of course.
All I pray is that Dr. Disrespect murders them in a game of Call of Duty on Rumble 4K live streaming.
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My guest today, Devin Stack of Blackpilled, is remarkable.
I'm very grateful that he came on and joined us today.
Unlike, you know, Little Children and Joe Biden, we're not currently getting cummed on.
We're coming on to something very, very important here, though.
That's actually true, by the way.
It's disgusting.
But I have a friend who's working on a pedophilic investigation of their family, and it's very, very valid.
Let's talk about what is the woke right, Devin.
Let's start here, okay?
Let's define terms.
What is the woke right?
I found a video here of an individual since Mohammed now is the number one name in the UK.
Let's play a video of somebody that is woke right so people can actually get an example.
Check this out.
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A lot of the people who are coming in, I don't want to be too harsh on them, but they have a completely different set of values, especially when it comes to their laws than we do in the UK.
And they seem to want to impose their way of life from where they are from on us.
One thing that's certainly happened is more and more sexual assaults, I think, are becoming apparent.
There's also a huge increase in gang violence, and it seems like the police seem scared to counteract this.
Police have been open about how they're not within their resources to respond to burglaries, for example.
They've openly admitted that.
However, they have seemingly have huge amounts of resources to go after people who make offensive tweets.
The internet could well be over-dramatizing that, but the point is, the internet is only showing what other people are seeing.
So even though it might not just be happening in your world, what you see with your eyes is not just what there is to see.
There's a lot more to see.
And that's what the internet is bringing to light.
So when somebody like James Lindsay, who is fat and is gay and is an atheist, but is not actually homosexual, I just mean gay in terms of the 90s term of it.
He's very lame.
He's been on this show.
He's been around here.
What do they mean specifically when they say that somebody is woke right?
Can you give me your best understanding of their interpretation of what they're defining in terms that our audience can understand?
Well, bottom line, it's if you care about race at all, unless, of course, it's the race of or the racial interests rather at all, if you care about racial interests at all, unless, of course, it's the racial interests of Jews and whether they're in the West or whether they're in Israel, then it's magically okay, just like the Babylon B guy often tweets out stuff in support of their racial interests,
but is quick to criticize anyone that wants to have racial interests of their own.
Anyone that would, I mean, that's a big one.
And in fact, I would say that's really, really what it culminates in, is if you really care about your people as a people at all, if you don't want to view the world as we are all just empty vessels that, you know, basically the same computer hardware in which the operating system is interchangeable, the system requirements are all the same.
And so it really doesn't matter who comes into the country because we can always just reformat their hard drive and install America 2.0.
And everything's going to be fine and everyone's going to be compatible with all the software of our civilization without understanding that there's any kind of biological differences that might get in the way of that fantasy.
And unfortunately, this is something that it's a relatively new development because you can go back and look at people that were worried about immigration as far back as the 1800s, early 1900s, and discussing the racial differences as a biological thing, as an actual problem in terms of the compatibility with the West.
I mean, I think Benjamin Franklin even went so far as to saying he didn't even want Eastern Europeans or Italians or swarthy Europeans to come into America because he thought they were incompatible.
I think that all the founding fathers would be rolling around in their graves if they could see the racial makeup of the country today.
Even Lincoln thought that blacks, for example, were incompatible with the United States.
And he wanted to do what was called the Great Negro Migration, which would be basically after abolishing slavery, reimmigration.
It would be reimmigration back to Africa, kind of in the way that you saw Liberia, which was a country founded by freed slaves who are a shining example of why racial differences matter so much.
Liberia was founded by freed slaves that copied our constitution letter for letter.
And now would you rather live in Liberia or would you rather live in America?
I mean, they have the exact same constitution that we have.
And so this is something that is really, I think, central.
It's key to everything else.
I mean, there's probably other differences, but really when it comes down to it, it's the idea that we are unique people and that our country is a product of our genetics and that people want to try to obscure this fact by saying things like, well, no, it's culture, it's culture.
And when they say this, they act as if culture comes from anywhere other than biology.
You know, the Japanese culture is a product of Japanese people.
No magical being went to Japan 5,000 years ago and, again, installed some Japanese firmware onto these people.
And now they're just stuck with it.
Like, this is a culture.
It's the product of thousands of years of these people living together and evolving as a society.
And you just can't expect people that come from other societies that evolved in other parts of the world to leapfrog over all of that.
And it's like that scene in Planet of the Apes where you have the chimpanzee with the AK-47 just wildly blasting it around because they're not, they didn't do the work.
They didn't do the work it took to appreciate the responsibility that comes with all of our technology.
And when I say technology, I don't just mean like iPhones, although certainly that is part of the problem as well, like the eye, you know, the internet, but also just technology, meaning that our system of government.
You know, there's some assumptions that were made when the founding fathers created or crafted our way of life and documented it in the founding documents.
They made the assumption that this is the kind of government that's going to work for our descendants.
This is the kind of government that's going to work for people like us.
I mean, the evolution of us moving forward.
It wasn't the kind of government that's going to work for people that come from parts of the world where the average IQ is 67, where they're incapable of even grasping the concepts that we have to be able to not just understand a little bit, but thoroughly understand in order to have a cohesive environment.
And that's the bottom line: the people pushing this woke right meme, they're doing so, I think, disingenuously to some degree, because a lot of times these exact same people that will criticize you when you bring these topics up will also be the first ones that'll say, if you point out that Jews are in positions of power at a disproportionate number, they'll say, oh, well, that's because Jews are, you know, they're smart and they've earned it.
You know, you're just jealous of their accomplishments.
And so therefore, they do recognize or to, you know, when it suits them, that there is some kind of differences between people, but they limit it to one type of people often.
I mean, you made some very good points, but it is true when you see this sort of like action on behalf of these people, you see something problematic and you see something different.
You see, one of the big problems with Native American reservations, for example, is they have a lot of obese Native Americans, a lot of diabetes on these reservations.
And a lot of that's because Native Americans and the environment that they evolved in in North America, where they didn't have horses, a lot of people don't realize horses weren't native to North America.
Those were brought here by the Europeans.
And so you had these nomadic people who essentially had to wrestle a buffalo to the ground in order to eat.
And you go from that to having infinite amounts of KFC and McDonald's and fire water, you're going to get a lot of people who aren't suited to, they're not adapted to that environment.
And so what happens is you get places like Gallup, New Mexico.
I did a whole stream on Gallup, New Mexico.
Anyone who's driven on I-40 through Gallup will know exactly what I'm talking about.
But there's reservations all across the country that have similar kind of environments where you have just poverty and you have laziness.
In fact, this transcends just people.
If you go to the zoo, all the signs that say don't feed the animals.
If you go to an animal preserve, and I'm not calling these people animals, but I'm just saying that it's for the same reasons.
You don't feed the animals because then they become dependent on this food and then they stop.
They don't know how to hunt and they become unable to cope with their environment.
And that's the same thing.
It's happened, I think, when you see like these morbidly obese black women that seem to litter the country and where they really don't have an understanding.
And if she lived in a country where they had to develop their own honey buns, as an example, chances are she would be in much better shape and she would appreciate the honey buns.
And I think that's kind of what's happened is we've welcomed all these people into the country that haven't done the work, aren't adapted to this way of life.
And I don't want to do this whole thing where it's like, look, it's even bad for them.
Because honestly, at this point, I kind of don't give a fuck if it's bad for them.
I don't care if they're overweight and have diabetes.
That's their fucking problem at this point.
I'm worried about the effects it's having on me.
I don't want to play this game where I try to act like the only argument you can make is either economic or it has to somehow, look, it's actually bad for black people.
Like this over-the-top, you know, compassionate conservatism has really gotten out of hand.
And people need to get comfortable with just saying, look, it's actually bad for me to have these people, these useless people in my society.
And because not only are they, in this case, it's a little humorous, but sometimes it's not so funny.
Sometimes people, you know, because of the interactions with the natives, shall you say, sometimes people die.
By the way, my producer just put in, we actually found the footage of the planet of the apes.
I'm going to play this for your second here.
Oh, shit.
Sorry, guys.
That's also, we messed up again.
That's just a Tuesday.
Sorry about that.
That was just a Tuesday in a local mall.
No, but I happen to agree with you on that.
And I think that, you know, one of the things that people don't understand is like, I saw somebody that was like, wasn't this the guy that got fired for epic or for crazy misogyny?
And now he's mad about at the woke right or at the con Inc. as a woke right guy.
And I go, okay, let's clear things up.
First of all, if I ever got fired from Con Inc. for being a misogynist based, okay, so thank you.
Secondly, no, that's not what happened.
Thirdly, if that's even a word, I still work in Con Inc., which is not really a flex.
It's like very much work in this environment.
So I'm speaking at this from someone who currently makes an income from this world.
My colleagues are full of fucking shit and they deserve to be murdered in a one-on-one match of Call of Duty with Dr. Disrespect on 4K, 60 frames per second in Rumble Live editor's picks, right?
Obviously, we're talking about video games here.
But I will say, you know, it is funny as we talk about the woke right.
There's no greater arbiter of what this is than this man named James Lindsay.
And it's funny because this is the first time I've seen the woke, the woke right, as we'll call them now, or the alt-right or whatever it is, suddenly grouped in with Christian fundamentalists, right?
Which have always typically been a bit of a category of their own.
So James Lindsay did something a bit interesting.
He made a claim, which actually sounded pretty cool, that was this.
If you can go to my screen here, James Lindsay posted this, in light of the debate about the woke right, I decided to do a little experiment, a throwback to an earlier James, if you will.
And we are so back.
The flagship Christian nationalist woke right publication has published part of the communist manifesto.
Now, that to be said, you take that off the screen for a second.
You know, that's not like that impressive because as you know, in the midst of all this, it's like I uploaded a video about some slut that did an old girl's gone wild video, did like 10 million views yesterday.
And then it did one about a fat white woman cooking shitty food and did 13 million views.
I also did one about how many pizzas can be baked at California Pizza Kitchen, did 6 million views.
But that's also a crazier story for another time.
But I thought it was really interesting because that's not that viral.
And I'm not really view comparing, but it did spark a lot of interest here.
Some individuals like Jamie Mitchell from the Gay Not What's It called?
The Gays for Trump?
No, what's it called?
The Gays?
No, it's not Gays for Trump.
It's not gay, gays, the Gays for Kids or something.
Yeah, so the actual clarification, I'm going to let you go off on this.
Just in case you heard, Sunzi Lyle originally posted that James Lindsay had dunked some Christians by changing a few words in the communist manifesto and attempted to take his word for it.
Here's the document with all the parts he rewrote and read.
So he actually rewrote over 90% of the communist manifesto, kept some phrases in there like has established as of the development, given to an immense development to commerce, this development, some like prepositions, right?
Developed, increased its.
I feel like we're in like a fourth grade class and literally rewrote about 93% of the entire document and went boom.
You know, you guys all accept Nazism and communism because Nazis and communists spoke in words.
And I used words in my rewrite.
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They're very, very sneaky, but they're fucking liars.
And they deserve to be fucking slapped with an axe in a game of Fortnite, right?
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Devin, when we see this, you know, you can bring it up on the screen there, Mike.
When you see this, right, in red, you have what's rewritten.
The claim is that he got a right-wing publication to republish Marks, which I don't even, I never heard of the publication till a few days ago.
And that doesn't mean anything.
But when you see the fact that he actually rewrote over 90% of the manifesto and then claimed a gotcha, I guess the woke right is a bunch of pro-Marxist communist Bolshevik Jews.
The guys who don't like Jews are a bunch of pro-Jewish ideological freaks.
What were your thoughts on this?
And what do you feel like this says about someone like Lindsay in his academic integrity?
Well, I think that it's interesting that he's trying to go back to what initially got him, I guess, viral in the first place, right?
Like back in it was a couple of years ago, he was the guy along with that other morbidly obese professor that wrote a bunch of woke papers that were satire and then tried to get them published as serious publications.
And in fact, if anything, it almost kind of makes me wonder how legitimate that was because in this instance, he's not publishing, as you said.
It's not as if this publisher, I'd never heard of them either, or they're some kind of arbiter of right-wing thought or belief.
And in fact, in many of these small-time, right-wing free speech publishers, they don't read what you're publishing.
It's almost like one of these self-publishing outlets where they publish whatever you send them because it's more content for their bookstore because they're a small publication.
I mean, it's not that difficult to get stuff like that published.
I mean, they're looking for content.
It's not as if some kind of, you know, right-wing philosophical god went through and read and then sent him notes and then had him update things.
It's not like the normal publication process that people might think of if they've never written a book before.
You essentially send them a PDF and say, you know, turn this into a book and they put it in their bookshop.
And that's the end of it.
The chances that anyone over at that publisher even read it are probably very slim.
Now, I don't know.
Maybe someone did read it.
But in my experience, that's not really the case.
So it's kind of like saying, oh, I self-published a book that a right-wing guy, you know, he owned the company that printed the books.
And so therefore I got an own.
And like I said, it really kind of makes me wonder how legitimate were these papers that he was sending into get published a couple of years ago when he initially got his 15 minutes, which he's apparently very thirsty to have returned to him.
It's really kind of, it shows you the inability for them to engage with us.
I mean, the fact that he gets, as we've mentioned before, ratioed on all of his tweets, and he doesn't engage with the people ratioing him, or at least very rarely, never has with me.
Like when he has said something and I've refuted what he has said, and very plainly, I wish I had an example ready, but I mean, it's not just me.
I mean, it happens so often.
It's almost every tweet that he makes.
He very rarely even replies to these things.
And this is the kind of thing that you would expect from an intellectual for them to want to have intellectual debate, right?
That's the whole thing, he feels that he's got the winning argument.
And anytime, this is why I feel like he's full of shit.
It's anytime that you feel like you have to bend the truth or lie about your position in order to win the argument, it means that you don't really believe it.
I mean, I remember one of the first things that kind of sent me down the right-wing road, I guess, if you will.
I mean, I was always kind of right-leaning, but I remember when Bullying for Columbine came out and someone on the internet, this is back when the internet was cool because it was just white nerds on the internet.
Someone on the internet actually listed all the inconsistencies and basically lies in that Michael Moore documentary.
And I remember going through it and thinking, because I had watched the film and thought, like, well, I'm still pro-Gun and whatever.
And, you know, fuck this guy.
But like, that's when I realized he probably doesn't even believe it himself.
It's for ideological reasons.
If you feel like you have to lie to make your point, then you don't actually believe it.
You're just trying to win.
And I feel like there's probably a financial interest.
I mean, look, isn't his background?
James Lindsay is supposed to be a physicist.
It's not like he's inventing time machines or he's working at SpaceX even or anything like that.
So clearly he's had to change careers late in the game because he wasn't very good at his actual career.
There's got to be money behind it.
I mean, you mentioned that he's an atheist, but the other thing, the other component to this is there are religious people that are tied to James Lindsay.
In fact, he gets published by that Christian.
They're evangelicals.
They're Zionists.
But he gets published by that Zion.
I forget the name of the guy.
I don't have, but he gets published and works with this guy named, I think, Michael something on a fairly regular basis.
What they're trying to do is they don't like the idea that there are one of the reasons why they have such a hard on for the anti-Semitic Christians, I guess, that are on the internet and therefore in real life to some extent, is that they want to keep Christians as the people that line up to go die for Israel.
I mean, that's been who's been who's been supplying all those boys that end up in body bags for Israel for the last 30 years, 40 years.
It's all these Christian evangelicals who think that they're defending the Holy Land.
I mean, they feel like they're on some kind of crusade.
And now that people are starting to peel back the mask and see what's really behind it, that's terrifying for a lot of people, specifically the people probably behind his financial situation.
And so I think that's something to keep in mind, too, is when you see him there speaking at Christian conferences, it's again to keep Christians believing in the Zionist interpretation of Christianity and to keep that dynamic, the Pastor Hage type of worldview intact.
Look, I just, I don't think there's any question of that.
I think that I just think that that's the way it is.
Look, if nothing else, one thing that I think is hilarious, because it's always one of the things that they go back and they act as if this was, in fact, if anything, this was one of the great sins of Hitler when he made Jews simply identify themselves.
They make it so, oh, it's so dehumanized that he made us wear these gold stars to let us know or let everyone know that they were dealing with a Jew.
And it's like, okay, I'm not advocating that we make Jews necessarily wear gold stars or like that, but you got to understand what was the reasoning behind doing that.
And the reasoning behind doing that is you understand that when you can identify someone as Jewish in a Western country, then you know that the motives of that person, they're always going to be colored by the fact that they do, it's not a trope, that they do have a loyalty to their people.
And everyone really should have a loyalty to their people.
I don't even think it's that crazy because often the same people that would tell you that it's anti-Semitic to suggest that Jews would have an interest in their people and that that might be separate than the population at large, what their interests are.
It'd be the same people that would tell you that that is true of blacks.
Why do you always hear comments or phrases like, oh, it's the black community that's a black leader?
Oh, that's why they need things like the black caucus.
That's why they have the Negro College Fund and all this other stuff.
It's because they have their own interests that are separate from the interests of the wider population.
Jews are no different.
In fact, if anyone's different in this scenario, it's white people, white people with the assumption that we are somehow, you know, that we're playing a game that no one else is playing.
We're playing this game that, you know, oh, I'm going to treat you the way that I want to be treated.
Well, the problem is that favor is not returned.
You know, this idea that I'm going to act as if I'm going to be raceblind, I'm going to pretend as if, you know, just because you're Jewish doesn't mean that you might have these other objectives that in some ways might even conflict with my objectives.
In fact, you're going to prioritize the health and well-being of Jews above my people.
And if you're in a position of power, that could affect me negatively.
So when Hitler did this, where he made them wear stars, it was with that in mind, because this is something that's, this is not a new phenomenon.
You can go back, and it's funny because people will say, oh, well, like, if you look at the, for example, the protocols of the elder Zions, they say, oh, it's a hoax.
It's a forgery.
It's something that was written by some Russian around 1900.
It's anti-Semitic.
Well, it's odd that let's just say that that's the truth.
It's odd that someone writing a forgery in a way that is supposed to represent the way Jews think about the host countries that they live in and about world Jewry in general.
It's weird that they would resonate still today over 100 years later, this forgery that's just this, it's coming from the imagination of some random Russian guy in 1900 describing the behavior of Jews, that there'd be so many parallels with what you see today with Jews in the West.
So it's just people understanding that other people are Jewish is that that seems to be a very big offense to the Jewish people.
Like they get very upset when you can call them a leftist, you can call them whatever you want, you can call them a communist, you can call them Marxists, but if you call them a Jew, then all of a sudden it's this hysterical problem.
And I think that, you know, again, I'm not suggesting that that's one Hitler policy that would, well, first of all, this is all that wouldn't even be possible to have happen in the West, but or even that would be something we would want to have happen in the West.
But you can understand the mind of Hitler in wanting to do that and wanting to make it plain and clear to people that would otherwise blend right in.
I mean, fact of the matter is, if you had Chinese people pulling the same kinds of influence plays and power plays in the West that you have with Jews, it would be, first of all, much easier to identify because you can look at a Chinese person and instantly, oh, that's a Chinese guy, you know, but also I think that people would be because of that, because it would be more obvious, because it would be less obscured.
It would be weird, for example, if when you were watching a movie, like, how come all that everyone in these movies, they're all Chinese people?
How come everyone making all of our films are Chinese and tell everyone giving us our news are Chinese and everyone writing the articles in the New York Times are Chinese and everyone in half of Biden's cabinet is Chinese.
This is a little bit weird.
And that's, I believe, there's probably far more Chinese people in America than there are Jews.
So it really doesn't help us out to ignore the fact that these people are different and separate from us.
And that's essentially what I think that policy Hitler was going with was meant to do is to outlaw to highlight, hey, look, you're dealing with someone who might have different interests at heart.
Now, look, you could talk about the form of government that Hitler, fascism that he supported.
And I don't know.
I'm not a fascist by any means.
But I think that he, if you look, if you read Mein Kampf and you realize that he really was looking out for his people, he wanted to do what was good for his people.
And he had a real understanding of what that meant, what the German people were.
And I think that's increasingly something that white Westerners don't even have a concept of anymore.
And probably because of the baggage of World War II, probably because it's a pendulum swinging the exact opposite direction of Hitler, where you have this, one might say, an extreme understanding and respect and love of one's people.
Now I think we've gone to the other extreme where it's almost like it's meaningless.
If you ask a white American what it means to be American or what it even means to be white, you could ask 10 different white Americans the same question.
You'd probably get 10 different answers.
And that's really, I think there's a lot we can learn from history, as you said in that tweet, without meaning that we're going to be genocidal all of a sudden just because there's something we can learn from people like Hitler.
And then I'm like, you've literally completed four out of seven of the memes.
Hey, look, guys, how retarded I am.
Fuck off, retard.
Jokes on them.
I was only pretending, you know?
And it's like, the other side of that is I wrote him.
I was like, dude, you literally go outside, you get ratioed on everything you do.
And then you go, I was just a pretend.
It was a joke.
I was making fun of you.
And you go, dude, listen, man, you are bought and sold off to an ideology over truth.
That's what this is.
You're so sold out to atheism and liberalism.
And it's like when you have people like Jordan Satatchel, who worked for the Israeli government defending you, or at least an Israeli government op or synergistic, you know, ally.
And you have, you have these are the people like Chris Rufo, who literally fires people for investigating Jewish people if they, you know, have corruption in their families.
This is the people you have in your orbit.
I mean, maybe you are not winning.
Maybe you are losing.
And maybe we're gaining real traction.
I mean, do you think that these guys really believe what they're saying, or do you think it's inauthentic and just money-based?
Because I don't even think they're making that much money.
In fact, I sent you a tweet that shows it's James Lindsay expressing explicitly that he's aware of the ethnicity of the cultural Marxists that came here around World War II and how that's a problem and how that's something he's nervous about that people learning that the identity of these people and connecting the dots that, oh, all of them are Jewish.
And somehow that like that was just a blip.
That was a weird coincidence.
And it's something that's going to be used by anti-Semites for recruitment purposes.
I sent you the link in the chat on this and also to the show's Twitter if you want to, if you, I don't know if you've seen that.
But the bottom line is, of course he knows.
Of course he knows who he's working for.
And it's again, it's funny.
The example that you gave about just pointing out the fact that he worked with the Israeli government is exactly what I was talking about with the gold stars.
I mean, okay, again, no one's suggesting that we have Jews walk around with gold stars, but that's the one thing that really kind of neuters their ability to operate in the way that they do is just by pointing out the fact that, hey, look, you don't see yourself as an American.
You know, they're never American Jews.
They're always Jewish Americans.
They're always Jewish first.
And that's just the fact of the matter.
And in fact, think of it this way: this is something I think that a lot of people don't understand.
If you're a Zionist Jew and you live in the West, the only reason you would possibly live in the West is that you are serving Israel.
Because if you're a true die-in-the-wall Zionist, you would live in Israel.
So it doesn't make any sense that you would be living in the West unless you were serving some other purpose.
Because it's like if I believe that all Jews, because that's what Zionism believes, that all the Jews need to go to Israel and that's the heart, the flower in the desert that's going to blossom, and that's the heart of world jewelry.
So if you're not going there, if you're doing everything you can, like Ben Shapiro, for example, Ben Shapiro, if he loves Israel as much as he does, why doesn't he live there?
And speaking of Israeli government, there was those tweets from a co-worker of his back when he worked at WorldNet Daily years ago that I guess had a desk next to his and said that, yeah, Ben Shapiro is a mossad agent.
Like he was on the phone with Netanyahu before they wrote articles.
So this kind of influence, this kind of foreign influence has been going on for decades.
I mean, another thing, just as a silly example of just how pervasive it is, Vincent James tweeted out just before we went on the air, I guess he just now found out that that 187 Cars for Kids ad that you hear on conservative media nonstop for like the last 20 years, it's not a charity for kids.
It's the way that the commercial is, for those of you familiar, donate your used car that you don't want anymore.
It's going to go to help save kids.
Well, actually, really what it is, it goes to a Jewish organization that flies Orthodox Jewish kids to Jew camp.
Like it has nothing to do with like it's saving kids from some kind of leukemia or whatever it pops in your head when you hear this jingle sung by kids or if you see the actual video version of it, these very Aryan looking kids that are singing the song.
No, it's a charity that's specifically made for promoting the interest of Jews.
And so this is just something that's just, it's something no matter where you look, it seems like that there are examples of this relationship that we have in the West between the Native people and Jews.
And I just think that that's something they need to maintain.
Or at least they feel that they need to maintain it.
That's how they've operated for so long.
I don't know that they understand how they would operate if they had to operate in the same way that other interest groups would have to.
For I gave the Chinese example, like if all of a sudden APAC was viewed as a foreign lobbyist rather than a rah-rah go Jews in America.
I don't even know what you would, what they try to describe themselves as, but if they were actually seen as a foreign lobbyist instead of whatever weird middle-of-the-road situation they've got legally right now, things would be much different.
They wouldn't be able to accomplish the same things.
And it's just, I feel like it's trending in the opposite direction.
I feel like even though there are more people noticing on Twitter and there aren't more people that are willing to say, hey, you know, this is starting to be a problem.
I don't think it's because the tide is turning.
I think it's quite the opposite.
I think it's getting so absurd now.
I mean, the fact that you have so much foreign influence at this point that when Trump was running for president, he mentioned Israel seemed more often in his speeches than he mentioned America.
And it's reaching a level of absurdity.
And so people are noticing.
But again, I don't think it's because there's going to be a pushback that's eminent.
I think it's just that that's how deep the control is and that's how deep it had to be for it to overcome all of the safety measures they had in place to prevent people from noticing.
I mean, I hope that that changes, but that's how it looks to me.
I want to talk about a little more of the woke right and then transition to another favorite topic, which is blacks.
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Um, I did want to say this, though.
I brought this tweet while you were talking, and I do like this because uh, James Lindsay says, time to tell you my strategy.
I love this.
It's like, um, it's like it's like you get divorced by your wife because you're poor and you're fat and she knows she can do better.
And you go, My strategy the entire time is to get rid of this bitch.
You're like, Well, maybe that's a possibility, but you also aren't in a great position to really be getting rid of offloading women, you know, at the time.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's not like you're like ripped and making money and you have options.
And I'm like, we love our mixed race children, don't we?
You know, and Aldo, Yamta of Elijah.
And I'm like, good voc.
Okay.
So that's obviously that bait is like when there's clearly like you're just baiting trolls by like being a bit ostentatious with you know, a bit um, you know I would say a bit flamboyant with your, with your humor, but just like getting fucking wrecked um, and and there are.
Listen, and I want to say this, I want to caveat this too, listen, if there was like one post or two posts that he got ratioed on, that were like he was bait and we didn't get his style of humor right, that's possible, like I know the Spergs don't get that, but there are people you don't get when they're joking.
I'm one of those people, but like, sometimes I joke And no one understands I'm joking.
So, if there was like one or two posts that no one understood it was a joke, I'll give them credit for that, even if I don't like them.
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But, like, 21 posts, 30 posts, are you, are you baiting us?
I was just pretending to be retarded, you know, like that whole thing.
That's basically what it was.
And yeah, it's so obvious with this guy.
And the fact that he doesn't, like I said, the fact he doesn't engage is what gives it away.
If he was, or the fact that he has to explain it, you know, such detail that, like, oh, no, look, see, look, I'm doing it again.
I'm, I'm, I'm pretending to be retarded again.
Look, everybody, it's kind of like I used to say where a hot girl doesn't have to tell people that she's hot.
You know, people just look and they realize she's hot, you know, and smart people don't have to sit there and tell everyone that they're smart.
People just realize by interacting with you that you're smart.
And so if you feel the need to explain that you're smart or that you're hot, you're really just addressing an insecurity that you have and highlighting the fact that you know that you're, you know, there's an issue there that you're lacking.
So yeah, this guy is, he's not exactly a complex person.
He's, he's, like I said, he's failed in his physics profession and now he's, he's, he's failing at his influence campaigns that he's that he's trying to do.
But he has to be making some money.
I feel like he has to be making some money.
Otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense or for him to be doing what he's doing because he's not being that influential.
I mean, aside from maybe his speaking engagements where he's preaching to the choir, like I said, I think that the people, the audiences for that are, you know, the Zionist Christians that are already kind of primed and ready to go and hear and accept that message.
He's just kind of underlying it.
He's kind of being like, for example, it's like when the Conservative Party or of any country gets a non-white on their team and they like to parade him around and say, look, everybody, look, even like the darkie agrees with us.
James Lindsay's the atheist for the Christians, where they're like, oh, look, everybody, even the atheist, the cringe atheist guy agrees with us that Jews are the master race.
Well, yeah, and I think one thing I want to say this, we talked about this earlier.
It's like, okay, look at this.
You know, people say, I've left the con ink.
Here's a screenshot from tonight.
I was on a Dr. Drew with Janine Turner, right?
Like, I mean, this is like, I mean, I would say this is about as, you know, connected in as you can really get, right?
I mean, this is like, we're now, we're talking about, you know, basic things in life.
I like Dr. Drew a lot.
He's a nice guy.
I find him to be very, very cordial.
And like, so I have no, I have no problem with people who are establishmenty.
I have no problem with people who are, you know, not political or don't want to talk about Jews.
Did I bring up the JQ on Dr. Drew Pinsky's show?
Yes.
Was that a dumb decision?
He kind of asked, but it definitely got glazed over, right?
Yeah, I was like, he's like, so what is this woke rat you're talking about?
I'm like, well, they're disagreeing on the impact of Jews and Zionists in institutional control over, you know, people who think that the white race is currently being impacted by immigration.
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He's like, on to our next question.
It's like, but you know, there's a few people who like can do that, right?
But I find it, I mean, I find it to be kind of funny.
But I did want to talk about something interesting here.
I want to talk a little bit about blacks.
Ladies and gentlemen, they're the people we've all come to know and love.
They're Democrats, they're doctors, they're lawyers, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, and they have destroyed the Republic of the Congo, Rhodesia, North Africa, Western Europe, most major cities in the United States, South Africa, and every fucking place that they find themselves.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we're repeating ourselves.
I present to you the darkest people in the room.
Not because they're not loud and you can't hear them, but because their skin is so dark, it's beautiful.
Forcey hair, motherfuckers.
Okay.
So I actually saw this video.
This is kind of crazy.
So this is a, was, I didn't think this was real.
So obviously, Port Durban, if I'm pronouncing that right, in eastern South Africa, southeastern South Africa, this is apparently the current state of affairs.
Look at this.
So I'm just going to mute this.
It doesn't really matter here.
So you see this level of filth, right?
I mean, this is like, I haven't seen this level of filth since I watched Rabbi Schmule sit on a boy's lap.
But this is kind of interesting because, yeah, they season their ports, David White said.
It's a port seasoning, right?
This is not dirty water.
I grew up in LA.
I'm from LA.
I still sound like I'm from LA.
Yada yada.
I don't care anymore.
I've heard it all.
But, you know, we had some dirty water there.
This is next level.
This was one of the top ports in the world just 40 years ago, by the way.
And one of the cleanest cities about 45 years ago in the world, actually, in Africa.
And this is what it looks like today.
And I wrote something a little bit racist, but okay.
I said, Africans ruined every society they fought with the communists in the liberal West to liberate.
That's a true statement.
Rhodesia, Congo, South Africa, and a few other less mentioned societies.
They can't even manage in Western countries, let alone their continent without white managers.
This kind of mentality here, I have a few videos I want to play for you in a bit, but like when you see this kind of stuff, why is it that white people, you know, look at this and go, you know, we need to give these people more of a voice, more control in our countries, more of an influence in our society when every place in the world we see that they have control, it's just literal garbage.
I think that it's this, in part, it's why I think I'll explain why I think right-wing people fall for it, like right-wing boomers, for example.
I think they're so patriotic and they so believe in the mythos of America and how, you know, the American exceptionalism and what a wonderful form of government it was and how we were able to exceed and surpass all the other European countries, you could say, in terms of power and financial output and everything else, that they really put a lot of stock in the form of government itself.
That there was something magical about the founding documents that enabled this.
It had nothing to do with maybe a genetic filter that was taking place when you had the immigrants coming from Europe to America first founding it.
You had like basically, it was like this eugenic filter that was happening.
People were dying on the boat right here.
There was a selection process across the pond of the kinds of people that would want to risk it all and come to a strange land with nothing and try to build something out of it.
You really had a lot of eugenic forces at play when you had the original founding stock Americans just to begin with.
And then you had a lot of that momentum carry through with even just, I'd say, the waves of immigrants that came after that.
Even whether you're talking about the Germans or the Irish or the Italians that would come to America, the same kind of filter was at play and acting in a way that would exclude maybe the weak.
Despite what it might say on the Statue of Liberty, where it says, bring us your trash, a poem, by the way, written by a Jew, go figure.
It was a, I mean, it was.
It literally is.
I mean, the reality was that's not who was coming to America for generations.
And so I think that you have boomers that are, especially the boomers who were seeped in these Hollywood myths, you know, like this Feifel goes west kind of bullshit, and they, where they think that like, oh, there's something magical that happens when you set foot on America and all these opportunities, the land of, it was the land of opportunity, notice, it's not the people of opportunity, right?
There's something magical that happens that they think they really do believe that there's nothing impressive about their ancestors or unique about their ancestors or about their bloodline.
And it's more so about the software and not the hardware.
And so when they see countries like this, they think that that's all they have to do.
They see these people and the mass that they live in.
And they think, well, if all we did was we get the operating system that we're all running on our hardware over here and we install it over there, then suddenly you'll have the same kind of results.
They'll magically be able to run all the software that we can run.
And quite frankly, it's like trying to install Windows 11 on a Commodore 64.
It's not going to happen.
They're not compatible.
And the hardware requirements just aren't there.
And that's, I think, something that was further exacerbated by the war propaganda of World War II, where all the propaganda against Hitler, for example, was, oh, he believes in a master race.
That silly goose.
He thinks that white people are superior and he wants to take over the whole world and make this crazy world that doesn't have diversity at all.
And we're Americans and we believe in the diversity that makes us great.
All that propaganda that was started to be authored pre, during, and post-World War II to try to build, craft this narrative of why we had to go and sacrifice so much blood and treasure on the other side of the planet, oftentimes because of how many Germans lived in America against your relatives.
You had to go across, you had to cross over this ocean and fight your cousins and your uncles in this war that really didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to a lot of people.
And certainly probably wouldn't have been able to, you couldn't sell it to the American people had Pearl Harbor not taken place.
And so a lot of that war propaganda stuck.
It stuck because it also played into the mythos of the boomers.
It's funny because the boomers, as much as they, when they were younger, they liked to protest and burn their bras and hold signs that said, trust no one over 30.
They actually had a weird, deep affection for their parents.
They had this respect for their parents.
And maybe it was because they were such assholes when they were younger that they felt bad about it or something like that.
But they did have this understanding that their parents had gone and fought the devil himself and had freed the world of certain tyranny that was going to envelop all of existence and enslave all of us.
And somehow we won.
And because we won, that obviously meant that God was on our side.
And so we were doing the greater good.
And so they have all these kinds of motivations to believe in the narrative that that's what was going on.
And I think that's kind of what you're seeing now today.
It's that hangover.
It's still that residue of that war propaganda telling you that we have to fight anyone that wants to think racially because the big, bad, you know, evil Satan did back in World War II that daddy fought against.
And that's really, I think, why you have this kind of, and also it is a business to some extent.
There's a lot of financial interest, obviously, for a lot of people involved with sending money, you know, the aid to Africa.
In fact, E. Michael Jones once, I think, talked about there was a Jew from New York that basically made a lot of like millions of dollars by collecting old clothing in America and shipping it out to Africa.
And it was funded by a lot of this aid to Africa stuff.
And basically by creating this dependency, in fact, that's why if you look at like, you know, footage of Africans, they're all wearing like these weird ET shirts from the 80s or like some body glove.
It's all this like weird used.
They look like they all shop at a vintage clothing store in downtown because they're all wearing our used clothing and whatnot.
But so there's a lot of money to be had with the African aid.
There's also a lot of resources in Africa.
Not everything the left complains about is total fiction.
There is a little grain of truth in that where you have you're paying off warlords essentially to go exploit the natural resources of Africa.
I mean, China's doing that now.
You've got a lot of rare earth minerals that exist in Africa and a lot of slave labor willing to go work in dangerous conditions that would be kind of cost prohibitive if you were to do it in the West.
You know, if you were to try to get a bunch of African, you know, it's easier to get a bunch of Africans to work in a lithium mine than in Africa than it is to try to accomplish that with all of our regulations, whether you're talking about OSHA or the EPA here in the United States.
So there's a whole lot of things at play, but the bottom line is it really comes down to as much as I hate making like a Star Trek reference, it really should be like the prime directive.
You know, in Star Trek, when they would encounter these primitive planets, their big rule was, oh, don't mess with their evolution.
You know, make sure we have, if we, to the degree that we do interact with these primitive people, you know, we have to do it in secret because once they're aware of our existence and the existence of this technology, it'll totally screw up their natural evolution and what it is that they're meant to accomplish, their destiny.
And so that was like the big rule.
Well, I kind of feel like that's what we've done in places like Africa.
I mean, not that I think that they would have caught up anytime soon, certainly not in our lifetimes, maybe not in several lifetimes.
But by going in there, it's like the Indian reservation example on a continental scale.
You know, we've gone in there, we've introduced technology and basically interrupted their natural evolutionary path and their destiny.
And that's not to say that I feel compelled, therefore, to keep giving them aid because I think that's kind of what happens is, right?
I think the ruling class people whose ancestors or maybe they themselves are the ones exploiting these countries in a way to try to alleviate that guilt.
They want to promote sending aid to Africa because it alleviates their personal guilt for their role or their family's role in the exploitation of these countries.
But it's never them that's actually providing the aid.
A lot of it's, you know, obviously it's tax dollars and whatnot.
I don't really give a shit.
I think that we should just cut them loose and say sorry.
You know, it is what it is.
But yeah, they're never going to reach the levels of civilization that they were meant to reach now because of our meddling.
And the kindest thing I think we can do at this point, and not just to them, again, because I hate using that argument, but for ourselves, especially, is to just cut them loose.
Listen, I happen to agree because I can't think one thing that this community adds to society that wouldn't also be more beneficial if they weren't involved in it, you know, to begin with.
And that being said, you know, I want to get your take on something.
What do you think about this race swapping?
So obviously, look, I'm not a fan fiction person.
My wife is.
And typically, women are involved in this stuff, right?
I mean, if you're a guy and you're really involved in Harry Potter, red flag, like just as a friend, right?
Like, like in general, it's like, oh, like, I mean, I watched the movies.
Like I don't, I don't, I'm not like a consumer of weed.
But I think I saw these movies very fucking high.
So I thought they were good.
And then I saw them not high with my wife.
And I was like, oh, kind of boring.
But still, they're okay, right?
It's still some sort of Western excellence.
I'm not against movies.
I'm not against cinema.
I'm not against these things.
I'm against the Jewish cinema and what's going on today.
But, you know, in some ways, JK Ruling has been decently open about drawing the line in the sand.
And that being said, this new series, kind of like the Dune series, I like the New Dunes, despite the woman actress being a 12-year-old boy, and I'm not a pedophile.
And I don't like brown boys in particular.
So it is interesting there that, you know, they, you know, had Zendaya, who is a somewhat of a transgender icon, playing the role.
But in more interesting thoughts, they had this guy named, go to go here with us.
Papa, Papa Ezedu, which sounds like that sounds like a poison.
One is the obvious that I think that propagandists, and that's certainly what these people are, the Hollywood producers that make these films, they do think about these things.
In fact, there's an interview with Abby Hoffman, who is a Jewish guy from the 1960s that really pioneered the flower power movement.
You might remember in the film Forrest Gump, the guy wearing the American flag shirt in that scene, that was supposed to be Abby Hoffman.
Abby Hoffman in real life said an interview in a, in fact, I have it in a video that I made years ago, that the propagandist does not show you the world in the way that it is, but rather in the way that he wishes it to be.
And so there is a little bit of this way you might even classify it as a type of magic that's being attempted.
You know, kind of think like the, you know, Oprah years ago when all the girls were in the country were practicing the secret where you would visualize something and it would manifest.
Well, there is a little bit of this intentional magic that I think that Hollywood and propagandists try to do, where they try to portray something not the way that they see it, but the way they want it to be in the hope that life will start to emulate and resemble the art that they're producing.
And in fact, I mean, another Jew that worked in Hollywood, Rod Serling, the creator of The Twilight Zone, there's an interview.
Again, I've played this clip a couple of times in my stream where he even thought in the 1970s it was starting to get a little bit ridiculous.
But he admitted that, you know, a lot of times when we make these, because he was just talking about black people being cast as doctors, because in the 1970s, that was just as ridiculous as casting a black person as Thor, you know, is today.
There weren't any black doctors really to speak of in the 1970s.
But he said that, look, a lot of these casting directors are casting black, like if you watch a 1970s hospital daytime, you know, like the 1970s version of ER, I forget the names of these shows, but they had like lots of shows that were like the predecessors of ER.
And there's like a black doctor and there's, you know, a lot of 1980s buddy films, right?
The police chief is always like this gruff black guy that's, you know, that's in charge of the whole department.
And so that was the way that they were trying to manifest a reality.
They were trying to depict things not as they were, but as they wished them to be.
But even Rod Serling in the 1970s interview, and in fact, it might be 1970 because it's the thing of the color stock.
It's like really old looking, but it is in color.
And he mentions that it was getting a little ridiculous then because there were too many black scientists and doctors and stuff in these Hollywood shows.
And it was so bad that it was taking him out of the movement.
He wasn't able to suspend his disbelief because he was so distracted by the fact that the guy, that the brain surgeon was black, and that seemed unrealistic to him.
So I think you have some of that.
That's one side of it.
But the other side of it is just a reality that's going to become, unfortunately, more and more just, I guess, a product of the changing demographics, right?
Like, yeah, obviously it's intentional now.
But if you go back and watch a movie again from the 1960s or whatever, there's white people playing Chinese people on a regular basis.
They would just put makeup on them and give them false teeth that look big and put glasses on them or something like that.
And of course, later on nowadays, they'll look back at films like that and say, oh, it's look at these racial stereotypes.
The white people are making fun of Asian people or whatever, when really a lot of the times they would cast a white person as a Native American, they would just paint him brown or whatever.
And that was just the racial reality of America at the time.
If you need to cast a film, even if you were to have some colorblind meritocracy in the casting room, that's just who would have gotten the part.
You're going to have far more white people that can play a leading role in a Hollywood film in the 1960s than a Native American.
And so many of whom, by the way, in the 1960s still lived on reservations in somewhat traditional ways.
So that's just, I think, the other sad reality is just as we're replaced, there's just going to be far more black actors in the market.
And again, I don't think that's what's going on now.
I think that it's the first thing, but I think that you're going to have black people just replacing white people and Indians replacing white people, not just in your cubicle at the, you know, the software company that you work at, but just in casting rooms in Hollywood, because it's just the reality of it.
So, what's interesting is like people don't realize with this show, I've sabotaged myself in a way because, like, I've had all these people on this show, which is actually kind of funny.
Like, Andrew Clavin's been on twice in person on this show on slightly offensive, just been in the studio, just hung out.
And I remember asking him, like, how do you reconcile having a homosexual son?
He was like, it makes sense with God because Ben Shapiro pays me enough.
No, but I don't, I have no idea what's going on.
I like these guys.
My family likes them.
A nice guy.
But he was on Ben Shapiro.
And I happen to say this: you know, money does corrupt, Devin.
It really does.
Because eventually, when you seek money only, then you miss the point of why you do what you do.
I always do speak out a little bit against Spergs in our movement, not because I care to counter signals.
Just like I don't think they understand sometimes the fact that, you know, in the movement, I don't ever hit people for making money in the movement, right?
Like if you work for Walgreens and you sell medication as a pharmacist, even if you don't agree with big pharma, I get it.
You're a pharmacy, you're a pharmacist.
Like, you know, you're going to sell products, maybe you're not even agree with.
It's part of the commerce of life.
But there's a little bit of difference of like just like, you know, working for Boeing and being against foreign war versus, you know, doing this.
So, yeah, the bottom line is, like I said, a lot of these people, if they are in the West and they love Israel as much as they clearly do, then they are probably here for a reason.
They're probably here in service of the place that they seem to love.
It seems clear to me that a lot of these people prioritize Israel before they, you know, they put Israel before America.
And if that was me, like, let's say I, you know, for some reason was an Anglophile to a crazy degree and I was always talking about how much England was awesome, but I lived here, it'd be a little unusual.
You know, it would be, you wouldn't understand, like, well, why, you know, if you love it so much, why don't you move there?
In fact, that's what a lot of boomers will say when they see Mexicans protesting, right?
You'll see these hordes of Mexicans waving the Mexican flag in these marches and these, you know, for years, for decades, you always heard these exact boomers that would probably love Ben Shapiro say, well, if you love it so much, why are you waving another country's flag?
Why don't you move back to Mexico?
But they wouldn't even think for a moment to say that about Israeli Jews in America waving Israeli flags.
In fact, there was that congressman that wore his IDF uniform to work one day on the floor of Congress.
And that didn't seem to set off any alarm bells with anyone.
Or in fact, that new senator in New York that got elected as a Republican, everyone was so happy, like, oh my God, a Republican in New York.
He's an ex-IDF soldier.
Like, this is a guy who has dual loyalty himself.
So the idea that you are normalizing that, again, it's one of these things where if anyone were to actually think logically about it, then it wouldn't make any sense.
But unfortunately, Zionism has hijacked a lot of the minds, the rationality of the people on the right.
And part of it's because of decades.
It's not just Ben Shapiro.
This kind of messaging has been going on since the days of talk radio when the right was basically relegated to AM Talk Radio.
I mean, most of the voices on AM Talk Radio, you obviously had Rush Limbaugh, who was a Zionist, but you had Dennis Prager, who I guess I think he's probably still on radio.
You had Michael Medved.
You had Michael Savage.
The vast majority of talk radio show hosts, that's what really defined, I think, the ideology of the boomers.
They were either literally Jews or like Andrew Clavin, either a crypto-Jew, if you will, or a Zionist to the core.
I don't think you had any kind of nationally syndicated radio talk show host that didn't think like this.
And so where exactly would they be getting an alternative view?
In fact, I remember when I was younger and I was just getting into politics and I was listening to people like Sean Hannity, another Zionist.
And in fact, I think I even read like a couple of Sean Hannity's books, as cringe as that could be.
And it never clicks that like you always hear that, oh, Israel's our greatest ally.
Israel is our greatest ally.
And I think the reason why it made sense at the time is, again, you had the threat of, oh, it's the Muslim threat, and we have to fight them over there or else we're going to have to fight him over here.
And so that really is what made sense at the time.
But now that that seems to have gone out the window, I feel like that they've solidified this normalization of Israel first in the minds of so many that they don't even have to try to make some kind of argument for it.
It just doesn't make any sense, at least with the older people, the older generation.
And this is why, again, this is why people like James Lindsay and Andrew Clavin and Ben Shapiro have to be why they have a job, really.
It's kind of like Dennis Prager.
I remember I used to listen to Dennis Prager all the time.
And Dennis Prager would talk, I mean, I knew he was Jewish, but he would talk about Israel all the time.
And it just, I didn't really question it so much as I just thought, well, you know, I guess if you're conservative, you like Israel.
And there did seem to be like a religious connection to some degree.
I mean, I was totally, as many Christians even today are, I was totally unaware of the Talmud.
And I was raised in a fairly religious family.
So I thought, well, they're culturally and they're kind of like us.
They just, they don't have like the New Testament, you know, so, but they're basically the same.
They're just missing like the Jesus part of it, you know?
And I think that's that's how else would you know that it was different?
Because no one's telling you otherwise.
And it wasn't until the internet came out that people like you and me and several others had a voice and could actually start to articulate some of this stuff and point out that there is a difference that anyone would even know in the first place.
And that's why they have to demonize us, call us woke right, and try to get people back on the reservation.
Like, dude, there's a lot of things I'd like to say, but I feel like I cannot fully express them because this show remains an entertainment show, right?
It's like I'm not an ideologue and I just want to present facts and truth and statistics and sort of keep that one foot in to market to a mainstream audience, but also realize that, you know, we're very awake on these questions, very awake on what's going on.
And it's like, you know, I run a video department at a very large publication and run a news agency and we work with ad agencies.
And it's like, it's a very complicated, you know, world.
Plus, I was recently just paid $6 million by Angel Studios to promote Bonhoeffer, which was really an amazing effort, too.
So that basically paid my bills for about two years.
So I'm super grateful for that.
But, you know, on top of that, I feel like there's quite a bit of people not understanding that what you see going on today is not just like random people getting paid.
And I don't know how to communicate this.
It's an ecosystem of systemic control that creates a mindset to where people are rewarded for not thinking freely.
It's going to sound a little bit liberal here, a little bit leftist, but like, for instance, like, you know, there's no reward in the right-wing circuit for promoting masculine ideas, right?
Like, there's no circuit to getting a show at a network.
There's no sponsorships.
There's nothing to promoting men to act like men.
If you want to start investigating truth, you will get destroyed if you cover the topic of the Jews, if you get too close to white nationalism.
And even Lindsay underlining when I said white nationalism is part of the woke right.
He's like, look at this.
Like they made that phrase a boogeyman.
And white nationalism is a very good, it's a very positive phrase, right?
It's like the left saying, what's that called?
Fatphobia, right?
Like you're fat phobic.
And you're like, being healthy is not a bad ideology.
Like being against obesity is not bad, right?
So we have our own way of fighting back.
Like, yeah, being anti-fat is good.
Being pro-white is a very good thing.
And then he goes, you know, white nationalism, because he's still put on that left-wing, you know, totem pool of, you know, white nationalism is bad because we can't have white countries.
But we could have every other country of every other nation, right?
I mean, you could have, you know, entire African black continent.
We can't have white continents, though.
It's very, very rudimentary, very basic, you know, you know, knowledge, but I'm still stuck in that, right?
I'm still stuck in that, not personally, but just where I work.
It's just how people are.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's very hard for me as a person.
I want to get your take on that.
Of like a lot of people who are very open understand where we're at, but communicating that to people is a different game.
I'm in that game of trying to bring that message to the masses.
And it's a very challenging game because if you are to tell people that Hitler did good things, they cannot fathom that just like they cannot fathom that the sham wow may not actually be the answer to all of your messes and disasters in your home.
So I would say, yeah, well, you and I have different strategies, and it's not a criticism, but like I realized early on when I was on YouTube and I was monetized and I was making pretty good money that if there were certain topics, and this was years ago, this was back in like 2016, 2017 when I first started mentioning Jews on YouTube, which was very, you know, and in fact, I kind of dipped my toe in it.
It went very slowly, not just because I was afraid of. being demonetized.
I kind of just assumed that would happen because I was cognitive of what you're talking about with people not being ready to hear it.
And I knew there were a lot of people that liked what I had to say about other topics.
I didn't want to lose them by sounding by ripping off the band-aid too fast.
And I had to be, you know, ease people, or maybe that's the wrong metaphor, I guess, by shocking them with too much of the reality that would be so counter to what they had accepted for years.
And so I realized early on that I was not going to be financially successful.
That was the decision I had to make.
I would be financially unsuccessful as compared to how I'd be able to talk about things in a more coached, more policed way.
And partially because I just felt like it was my responsibility and my duty as a white person, as a founding stock white American.
Once I determined that it was real, that my people were in jeopardy.
There was an existential threat.
It wasn't something to be ashamed of, to worry about white replacement or to understand race realism or any of these things.
And there was this huge gap between the, I guess, the abilities I saw of people trying to articulate these kinds of things versus the people articulating the opposite.
And I knew that my background, my talents in storytelling and breaking down complex ideas into simple, easy to digest sound bites or whatever.
I knew that I had a talent that could be used to better help the survival really of my people.
And I just felt like that was my duty to do it.
And I knew that by doing that, I was going to probably not be able to make a whole lot of money and maybe even not even reach a lot of people because I knew I'd be kicked off the large platforms.
And it was really kind of iffy.
I didn't know when I first went to Odyssey.
First, I was at D-Live.
I was at Trovo.
Then I was at Odyssey and BitChute and all these other things.
It was kind of like, wow, am I just going to go into obscurity?
No one's going to hear, I'm going to be screaming into the void and no one's going to hear me.
But that was the decision I made.
I saw people that decided to, especially once they saw people getting banned off YouTube, they immediately started to self-censor and police because they wanted to protect their money coming in.
Now, I was also in a unique position.
Again, none of this is a criticism of the people that decided not to do this.
I was in a somewhat unique position in that I was self-employed and I was still making income from other places and I didn't have a family to support and I was 100% willing to take the risk that this would all come crashing down and I'd have to really try to figure something out.
But I've always been a risk taker and I figured, yeah, I'm going to bet on myself as I've done a million times and it ended up working out.
And look, I don't make a great living, but I make a living doing what I'm doing.
I'm able to keep the channel going And do it full time.
But I understand that there are people that, you know, like yourself, you've, you, you want to do your, like you said, your show is not an ideological show so much.
And you're not an ideologue.
I just happen to be, I am an ideologue, and I, I would prefer to be in a position where I, like, for example, um, you know, one of the reasons why, and I've been approached by sponsors in the past, and one of the reasons why I don't take on sponsors or I haven't, maybe someday I would, I don't know, it depends on the situation.
I'm not, you know, it's not like I'm against that 100%, but I never wanted to be put in a situation where I would think to myself, even if it was a little bit in the back of my mind, like maybe they didn't explicitly tell me to stay away from certain topics, but maybe I thought by talking about this, I'm going to piss them off.
They're not going to want to renew the contract or whatever.
Or in fact, when I went to Odyssey at the time, I had a YouTube channel with a quarter of a million subscribers.
And they took notice and they messaged me and wanted to do like a contract.
And I didn't even do that for the same reason.
I didn't want to think in the back of my mind that, like, oh, you know, this is going to be financially tricky for me.
And look, it hasn't been easy, but I've, thanks to the generosity of a lot of people, I think, understand this and understand that by being user-funded, that I have, I have, I don't, I'm not wearing any, I'm not shackled to anything or self-censoring for any reason.
And I think for me, that's just, I think, the way to go for what I want to get out there.
And just like, quite frankly, the topics I go over, as much as they're more acceptable now, if you think five years ago, you could sit there and do a huge expose on a large group of Eastern European Jews that immigrated to America around the turn of the century and all the shenanigans they got into without some kind of financial peril if you relied on sponsorships or monetization or anything like that.
I mean, it would be impossible.
I wouldn't be able to do it.
And it would just, it would, you know, eat me up inside.
I think it'd drive me crazy.
In fact, one of the reasons why I was self-employed in the first place before I really started doing this was I hated working for other people.
I hated having clients that I had to go through a middleman because I was a designer.
I would do videos and graphic design, but it was always through some guy who was subcontracting me.
They would talk to the client and then they would talk to me.
And I knew they were getting a cut of the money and I was doing all the work.
And I was like, why don't I just talk directly to the client?
And so I made that transition several years ago because I just didn't like working for other people.
I didn't like not being having total control over what my creative visions were, whether it was political or not.
So that's just, that's, that's what I think about that exactly.
The other thing is, is like this show, for instance, is like not my main income, right?
So that's one of the main things.
I'm mostly a news presenter.
So I present news.
A journalist as well for some publications.
And that's kind of an interesting position to be in.
Because it's like, you know, I get invited to Mara Logo.
I rub like, I mean, like, I'm going to a Trump dinner a couple of weeks.
Like, like, to kind of put in perspective for people, it's like, I'm going to a dinner that a super PAC paid for my seat for $10,000, right?
It's kind of crazy, right?
It's like, like, that's, that's actually stupid.
So it's retarded.
It's gay, retarded to pay $10,000 for a seat.
I didn't pay it.
But it's like, you know, going to a dinner, I'm going to New York.
And the whole trip, everything costs like, what, maybe $5,000, $6,000 plus a ticket.
So maybe, maybe in the end with food and everything, maybe I have $20,000 just to go for like three days to New York.
And that's stupid.
It's retarded.
I'm not paying it, by the way.
So don't anybody think if you're supporting me that you're paying for that shit because you're not.
That's just like, it's just like a super PAC paying for that.
But, you know, there's an interesting aspect of being involved in politics and being involved in that aspect.
And I do respect a lot of what you do, all of what you do, actually.
And that's why I like to have you on, man, because I think being a journalist, being involved in that, slightly offensive is one aspect of what I do.
And it's a great show, and I do love it.
And I do enjoy talking to people and being honest about my opinions in life.
Where, you know, on a lot of these other shows, you know, you can't be a fully honest.
I'm sure you know that.
You cannot be a fully honest.
We almost are tongue-in-cheek at this point on the rest of the stuff that we do.
Me and Mike.
We're tongue-in-cheek.
We like to have fun, you know?
Like, we like to remind people, like, yo, this guy wants to remind you guys that he's a Jew and he works for the, he was at ex-Fed.
So he's not a plant and he's not anti-Semitic.
And so just clarifying as we watch this clip, he is Jewish and he is a federal asset, but not working for them.
And so we like to throw in the tongue-in-cheek, right, with a lot of these things that we do because it's all you've got, right, with a lot of the mainstream stuff.
Chapel Roan says that I'm the, I'm like, I'm the artist that your favorite artists like to listen to.
So you're like sort of like that, right?
You're like the streamer that your favorite, like favorite streamers like to listen to, right?
That's sort of like the mentality.
It's kind of a cool position to be in, honestly, where it's like, you know, you're self-funded and whatever, and you're got a more mature stance than some of the other people in the far right in terms of being more rudimentary and realistic in what you believe.
And I do want to remind you guys that this show is primarily sponsored and it is obviously continually supported by Censored.
We don't even have to give them a shout out.
There's no requirements.
But just reminding you guys we are on Censored.
To those that were wondering why we're not live streaming there right now, you can go to the screen here, but we're not live streaming there because we have a new software and the stream keys messed up.
And if we, it fucked up tonight, honestly, for the last two nights.
Tuesday night, we had a problem with the stream key.
The problem with alt tech and running your own alt tech is you run into problems.
But we do upload the videos fully recorded and for you guys directly there without the ads.
So that's really cool.
And honestly, Censored has no ads, okay?
We have no ads.
It has so no ads that we try to cut the ads out of this show when we put it on there.
So you guys know that we're not trying to get ad dollars for being on there.
We're not on Amazon warehouse servers.
It is really cool.
We really do like being on there.
It is a great way to have a compound of people who are working together.
You get this show, you get Anthony Kumia.
We got to get, you know, Devin, you been on Anthony Kumiya before?
I know Gavin's, you know, you guys differ on your Jewish talk, but we've slightly beefed a couple times, which is kind of fun.
Nothing crazy, but I've, yeah, I've given him shit about the Jewish thing a couple times, but never, yeah, it's never gotten nasty or anything like that.
You can use promo code offensive at censor.tv, get Jim Goad, you know, everyone there.
It's really cool.
But I think you ought to give yourself some credit because on one hand, you know, I think I think it's really difficult with all this stuff going on that People don't realize the role they play.
And as somebody who has had people come against them and lose very bigly in the courts, I will say, unlike what's his name, James Lindsay, the people that lost bigly against me, it wasn't bait.
They just lost in court.
I think that, you know, when you have truth on your side in reality, you end up winning.
And I think what you're doing, yeah, it's not, you might not be driving a fresh and fit G-Wagon that's modded out 250K or something.
You know, you might not be in that position, but there is a level of peace.
Like the Bible says that those who have a clear conscience go to bed at night in peace, right?
So there is, and those who are rich, right?
They're continually chasing and they feel like someone's always chasing them, it says, but there's no one behind them.
So like they're constantly feeling like there's something wrong.
So my question for you is for people who are here who are watching this, you know, you're honest about this stuff.
I want to play one video for you that I think is actually really important.
It's my last topic.
And it was this.
So go to this real fast.
With women, thirst trapping while bragging about breaking up your own family's diabolical work.
I actually been following this girl's story on TikTok.
Yes, I do watch TikToks.
You can judge me, but watch this.
Listen to this.
Someone said your kids may have a broken family now, but at least they don't have a broken family.
Well, I think it's like many things that's wrong with the West right now, it's a confusion of priorities and a lack of a sense of duty.
Women don't have, where would they pick that up at?
I was watching, in fact, right now I'm doing a series on South Park's libertarianism and their messaging in their show for decades, the impact that that had on the political views of Gen X and millennials.
And one of the things that you'll see when you watch some of these things that you're going back to dissect, that you're going there looking for the degenerate poison, and you end up invariably finding some innocence because you go back so far.
Like as an example, I did something on The Simpsons in the early seasons of The Simpsons, which is ultra degenerate, obviously, too, and anti-Christian and whatnot.
But they make a point that show that The Simpsons are always going to church on Sundays.
Yeah, they make it look cringe, but that was normal.
That's how they had to present it.
And the same thing, I bump into things like that when watching these old South Park episodes.
And one example is there's an episode where they have Home Eck and Kenny, the joke is that Kenny goes to Home Ec class and in the Home Ec class, they're teaching the women how to cook and how to be wives and mothers, essentially.
And I thought to myself, wow, I don't even know that that exists anymore.
I mean, I'm sure maybe there's some backwoods high school somewhere that teaching home act, but it's probably not the same thing.
And it's certainly not the kind of home act that, say, that my mother would have gone to, the kind of class that she would have gone to in the 1960s or 70s.
You know, this is a, well, I guess if high school would definitely be 70s.
But people don't realize how much that, you know, things have changed.
And give another example of how different the whole strong independent woman is.
And this, I think, bless people's minds.
Women couldn't even get credit cards without their husband's permission in the 1970s.
You know, like it wasn't that long ago that you had to have that.
That relationship was just assumed that you had to be a wife, that you had to be a mother, that you had that kind of duty attached to your existence.
And that modern women just don't have that anywhere.
And so, yeah, I mean, for her, it's all about pleasure seeking.
It's all about what's best for her.
It's, you know, if you were to make this, I guess, into a metaphor, it's her family is America.
And if she was Ben Shapiro, her family is America.
And Israel is the fun she's having at the bar after work.
So, I mean, that's just the way it is.
Every problem in the West right now is just a people don't have their priorities straight.
There's no, and it's because there's no institutions exist that are strong enough really to relay these things.
You know, these aren't things that you're born with.
These are things that her mother obviously didn't teach her right, but maybe her mother, her mother's mother didn't teach her right.
These are things that don't exist in a vacuum.
You have to have a cohesive society to pass this stuff down.
Well, that being said, Devin, Devin Stack from Black Pilled, thank you so much for coming on.
We have a few super chats if you're down to go through them here.
One of them from SpyGuy89 said, thanks to UE, I never miss an insomnia stream.
Devin jumps straight to the top of my shows to listen to with his detailed deep dives.
That's really good.
There's a lot of Devin Stack fans in here tonight, and we love Devin.
Hang the Tyrants said, get Devin on Kumiya's show, Elijah.
Well, it's kind of, we just talked about that, actually.
So it's actually now in the list.
By the way, Devin, I'll have my producer message you from his account as well on X right now.
He'll do that right here so that you can have a second line of contact.
Because obviously it's not even that I'm trying to be impersonal on my own personal account.
It's just like things just get lost because there's so many random fucking spam shit in there.
It's just, you know, it's retarded on X. Susie Dale said, shekels for Ben Australia.
Yeah.
Shekels for Ben.
Alex Jones was right.
He says, all you deserve, start promoting your kinds, Joel Davis 2024.
So, yeah, we love Joel Davis.
By the way, you know what?
It's like, I got, you know, I got like visited by ASIO, like the FBI in Australia for having certain guests on my show.
People give me a lot of shit.
And it's like, I have feds come to my house for having guests on my show.
People don't want to deal with that shit.
I don't give a fuck.
Fuck you, you fucking Twats.
Zen Christopher said, libtards act as though the first world Western culture spews from Earth or is drawn down from the either or either.
It's their religion.
Can I get your opinion on that, Devin?
Like about the idea that libs take for granted Western society and think it's just like a natural spawn of enough technology and time in a fucking crock pot and not like an actual systemic, you know, decisive choice of generations of men who've died to keep an idea alive.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's perspective limited just to them, though.
I think that's what we were talking about too with the boomers that think that if they replace the population of America, that all the trains will keep arriving on time.
And that it's really just the software needs to be installed on the new people.
I don't think it's any different.
I just think that the conclusions are different, right?
So I think when the right-wing boomer hears that, they think, oh, well, then, you know, as long as they come in legally and we can make sure that we're, you know, we're making sure no criminals come in and whatever.
And I feel like a leftist has that, you know, a communist really has that exact view.
The communists think that people are interchangeable and that, you know, everyone is basically to some extent the same.
And, you know, they just take it in a different direction.
I think what he's referring to is I actually didn't know this, but someone who hyper chatted me on Odyssey, I think last stream mentioned that he was Jewish, which was surprising to me because I thought a couple of years ago, I remembered headlines about how he was anti-Semitic.
So like, I don't know how Jewish he is.
I mean, his real name is Ted Geisel.
That sounds pretty Jewy.
But I knew that previously, but I have never looked him up to see how Jewish he was.
But someone, yeah, someone hyper-chatted that, I think, last stream and mentioned that he was Jewish.
It's like, okay, so I'm not going to counter signal, you know, my audience or your audience, but like sometimes I just want people to like also enjoy their lives.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's like, right.
Like, dude, if you have a book that says, like, and the Gringelstein was the greatest man that lived in Ola Whoville, and the Who's with their Christ and Steen Christmastines, you know, it's like, okay, that's different.
But like, dude, there are retarded white people out there.
That doesn't mean white people are all our enemies, right?
There are white people who are used in the Jewish, you know, dogma.
And to me, it's like, dude, like, I have a few Jewish friends.
I'm from LA and they're very cool.
They're against the war.
And yeah, are they like a little bit bitchy on like Hitler and you know, topics that don't really make sense to them?
Yeah, but you get it, right?
It's context.
Like, they're Jewish.
What are they going to think Hitler was a good guy?
No, you know, it's like part of their culture.
But it's like, it's like, it's like black people, you know, like when you try to tell them that 4C hair is disgusting.
Like, yeah, I'm not saying that you're going to equate your whole lives on equal, equitable terms.
But, you know, in terms of being in a, in a non-homogenous society, which is what we are, I still don't want people to like not learn how to live a normal life.
Because like, like, I like Joel Davis a lot and we're friends.
Like, I had to buy him alcohol always because he would be like a minority.
I can't even fucking look at her.
And I'd be like, like, and like, like, I think it's, yeah, I'd laugh too.
I thought it was funny, but like, dude, I can order alcohol from a Brazilian woman, right?
There is a difference in a one-night stand and a marriage, but I also, but I also mean that as a joke.
It's like, like, I mean, I get everyone's, like you said, we all got different techniques, right?
So I get him.
I'm not even judging him.
I get it.
I get where you get there.
I just, for me, the type of guy I am, I'm like, oh, dude, look at man.
A lot of Brazilians are out here in the Gold Coast.
They are just on student visas.
This country's fucked.
I'm not going to blame her for the fact this country's fucked, right?
And also, I'd much rather have a hot Brazilian woman serving me a drink than a fucking Nigerian guy stabbing me.
So, you know, if the country's got some fucked up immigration, then let's have priority.
But I don't mean to justify anything.
I just mean like, you know, I think some people get so caught up in the opposing stuff.
They don't stand for anything.
I know it's going to sound watered down to everyone, but like, it's like the whole idea of like being so against interracial marriage and adoption and stuff.
They never get married, never have kids because suddenly getting married is anti-testosterone.
And it's like, okay, sure.
I mean, I guess maybe I'm from LA, so I'm a bad, you know, arbiter of ideology here, but like, you know, you're not really helping the white race by not having white kids.
So that's kind of like where I stand with people.
It's like, you know, you can, you can judge all you want, but almost everyone I know who's pro-white has no white kids.
So it's like being pro-white is two facet, right?
It's not just having white kids, it's also being ideologically in line with policies and ideas that preserve your offspring in the future.
And also people who don't have kids who have that policy.
But having white kids is also at least 50% or more of the factor of preserving the white race.
That's my personal opinion because white people are not having kids.
No, I think that it's in terms of like the, I mean, like, I'm against race mixing, absolutely.
And I think that at the same time, I have sympathy for the guys that if they get to a point where it's like, well, it's either that or nothing.
I mean, I guess, right?
But I just don't, me personally, I would not want to, I wouldn't want to do that with my bloodline.
I would prefer actually to, if anything, maybe, because I have lots of white nieces and nephews.
And if it came down to that, I would much rather look after them as like a godparent type role rather than have mixed race kids.
That said, though, I mean, I don't think that's what you're talking about necessarily.
I think what you're getting at is the, I mean, it's kind of a tired term, the purity spiraling that goes on.
I mean, look, there were people that spurred down just because I was going on your show on Twitter.
And you always have that small minority of people who don't understand that me going on your show doesn't mean we're getting matching tattoos or whatever.
And, you know, that we're no one, as you said, that there's going to be differences in opinions of how people operate, like Joel Davis not wanting to even touch the beverage that a Brazilian woman has touched and that sort of a thing.
And look, there's if you sit there and try to only align yourself with people that see the world exactly as you do, you're going to be a very lonely person.
I think that there is a mistake to be made in fighting against the huge, the huge circus tech that the RNC is building in trying to create a purist view of things.
Now, that said, you don't want to be too laxadaisical on principle, or else you do end up like the RNC, where you've got half of the Republican National Convention isn't even in English, and you've got like some weird Hindu demon witch ladies, you know, casting some spell on the attendees and whatever.
But I think people are just ultra sensitive to all of the capitulating that whites have done and all of the compromises that whites have made that have kind of led to where we are today.
And so I understand it.
I get it.
I understand that people are sensitive to that.
And I understand that people are also very suspicious of other people that claim to speak for white people.
And then, you know, surprise, they end up having other motives because look, there was a whole lot of that that kind of has gone on over the last decade, I would say, where you did go from an environment where either, I mean, if you were a right-wing talking head, whether you're on radio or television or even like a, you know, you wrote for the National Review or whatever, you were either Jewish or hyper-Zionist.
And that because people have started to understand that dynamic and that reality, they are very extra suspicious of anyone that claims to speak for white people.
What kind of hidden agenda do they have?
And then just, I think that you've also just had a general paranoia on the right.
Just because of the other things that you have happening, where you find out that there are federal informants that infiltrate groups and you do have all the institutions against you, including those that you might elect to office that claim to be on your side.
So there's a difference between a healthy paranoia and a healthy skepticism and I think a unhealthy distrust that makes it impossible to form alliances and allegiances between different factions on the right that are necessary if we ever want to get anything done.
Say what you want about the Jews.
At the end of the day, they have solidarity that I think whites should admire on some level and try to emulate.
There's left-wing Jews and right-wing Jews, but at the end of the day, they're Jews.
And I don't think that's a new concept, really, I think, for whites in the West that they need to embrace a little bit more.
Well, it's like the pictures they use to own the Jews, like, oh, he's a Somalian Jew and he's a Filipino Jew.
And you're like, yeah, and they're all fighting in the IDF.
It's kind of cool, actually.
And everyone's going to counter signal here, like being like, oh, that's crazy.
Like, you're saying it's cool.
I'm like, no, the collectivism is cool.
What I'm pointing out is the hypocrisy and also the self, you know, suicidal empathy, right?
Like, or sympathy, I should say.
It's like, you shouldn't be weirded out that people have collectivist protectionist ideas.
It's just the fact that those people are projecting onto you through your own institutions to not have that for yourself, right?
So it's very different.
It's like, I don't think it's weird that Jews have a collectivist protectionist idea.
I don't think that's weird at all.
I think that's smart, actually.
Why whites think that that's okay for them and not for us is what's even weirder.
Imagine the strength we could have if we weren't like that in terms of being divisive and we could actually come together and protect ourselves.
So I think it's a little bit remarkable and a bit, you know, almost unconventionally intuitively curiously interesting, I guess, as a person to sit here and go, yeah, you know, listen, I have two kids, right?
I'm only 31.
I know someone told me I was like 45.
I was like, damn, I didn't know I looked that old.
I'm 31.
I have two kids.
I get about three hours of sleep a night.
It's pretty rough.
You know, 2002 is tough.
I have a beautiful wife.
We hang out, we have a good life, and um, she doesn't work or she stays at home.
We live in a very nice city.
Uh, you know, we drive uh Vespas now, but we drive nice cars, we hang out and live life, and I feel very blessed.
I feel very every day, I wake up and I feel accountable to God and very privileged.
Um, I hate being woke in that way, but I feel very privileged in the life God's given me.
Um, and I feel very, very grateful for every opportunity that comes my way.
And I realized that like a lot of people don't have the opportunity or the ability to make the kind of money or have the kind of social interactions or to be in the positions that God gives me every day.
And I don't take that for granted.
I find it to be a massive, you know, like a it's like winning the a lot in a slot machine or on a table, right?
It feels like I'm winning, I'm gambling and I'm winning every day by betting on black, and it just keeps hitting black on the table.
And I talk to people who watch the show, and a lot of people who watch the show, and I know that you do, um, you know, you swing a hammer for eight, 10, 12 hours a day, or you work in an office job, and your bosses hate you, they hate what you stand for, they hate your family, they treat you like shit, they don't care that you have a big family, they don't care that you want your wife to stay home, they don't care about your family, they don't care about anything, you're just a cattle to them and you don't matter.
And, you know, it's probably pretty degrading and disgusting.
And so, by no means do I think this is a hard job or that I have a hard life or anything dynamically interesting about what I do.
Um, but I will say this: I don't just go in front of the camera, like I've been offered a lot of money to just not do what I do now.
And I've even talked to this, I've lost like almost 400,000, a little more than that, actually, just on a one brand deal recently because that I had to defend someone and they said I would, they would drop me if I if I defended them.
And I did.
So it's like, you know, I've lost seven figures easily, multiple seven figures in the last couple of years.
And, you know, when you're losing millions of dollars to say what you want to say, it does make you feel like a retard some days because, you know, you see your brother and you know, his Lamborghini and people walking around.
You're like, you know, I can have these arbitrary material things, but, you know, I don't need that.
And I think you've taken that same position.
You know, maybe, maybe some things have been more beneficial that I could access that maybe even if I was a little more open or honest, you know, maybe whatever.
There's always another threshold.
But I do think that when I look at this all, like we were talking about, I think that we do owe white people a responsibility.
And someone asked me today, they said on X, you know, why are you pro-white?
I said, why is water wet?
Like, why are you asking me why I'm pro-my people?
I think being pro-white is the best.
Yeah, well, I'm saying, I think being pro-white is the best.
And I don't know what you think about this, but like, you know, you don't show your face, which I know is a risk in itself.
But, you know, you have given your life to doing this.
And you could make more money in a lot of fields than being on Odyssey.
You could even be less loyal and not be on Odyssey and be somewhere else.
Why are you motivated to do this?
Like, why are you motivated to sit around and to sacrifice your future, your life, your ability to wake white people up?
Well, like I said, I just felt like I had a duty because of the talents that I had.
Like, honestly, part of it was I saw right-wing media and I thought it was shitty.
Like, it looked like shit.
The graphic design of it was shit.
The presentation was shit.
The facts were all there.
But it was, you know, it was very amateur.
And so because people, there's a reason why companies spend millions and millions of dollars on marketing products.
It's because people are more swayed by, despite what Ben Shapiro would say, where facts don't care about your feelings.
Well, feelings don't care about your facts.
So you can make all the infographics from 4chan that you want and post them all over the place, and no one's going to fucking care about it because at the end of the day, they're going to watch the Avengers movie.
And that's going to change their mind about a political ideology more than a couple of pie charts are ever going to.
And I started to realize the right wing just doesn't understand that.
And that part of that's because they've been excluded from the creative process for so long, as it's, you know, the leftists, Jews, and Hollywood have pretty much have a monopoly on it for so long.
And not just in terms of filmmaking, but all throughout marketing, all throughout broadcast, every industry that I worked at, I was always an anomaly in terms of not being a turbo leftist and in many cases, not being a Jew.
And so it was something that I realized, okay, there's a need here.
People don't understand the power of propaganda.
People don't understand the value of propaganda.
And I'm in a unique position where I know I can explain this to people in a way they'll understand.
And so I'm going to deal with that.
And I started doing that and it worked.
And people were getting it for the first time.
And so, excuse me, once I started doing that, there was no looking back.
Because like I said, I 100% believe very powerfully that there is an existential threat facing the people I care most about in my life.
You asked, well, why do you care so much about white people, right?
The answer to that, that's my family.
White people are my people.
I feel way more connected to my brother, my sister, my mother, my aunt, my nieces and nephews than I do random people for a reason.
It's because they're part me.
And I am more genetically genetically closer to them than I am anyone else on the planet.
And that kind of, there's a gradient there, obviously.
It expands out, but so does my love for my people.
It expands out to and extends to all these other people I'm genetically close to.
And I also just see the world that I, the things about the world that I love, I'd say the vast majority of the things that I love about the world were produced by or are a consequence of my people.
And that if we disappear, the world's going to become something that is unrecognizable and something that I don't want me or my descendants to live in.
And I think it would be a great tragedy if white people were to vanish from this earth.
And so I just think that, look, I don't want to be, you know, another thing I started to have, I did, I'll be honest, I went through a phase and maybe some people would say it's not over, where I was really bitter about boomers dropping the ball and really kind of having it all and giving it up.
And another thing that drove me is I didn't want future generations to look back at me and say, what the fuck were you doing when all this was going on?
What the fuck were you doing when trans kids was happening and all this other madness was going on?
What the fuck were you doing when they were opening up the floodgates to all this immigration and just turning our country into the third world?
You were in a position to do something.
You were in a position to say something.
You said nothing because you were afraid.
I didn't want to be that guy.
I didn't want to be that guy.
And it just, you know, I just felt like that was my calling.
And I'm not a particularly religious person, but I would say it's not that I never pray.
And I did pray about it.
And I kind of got the answer that I felt that I got was that's what you got to do.
This is the position you got to go in.
You've got to do what you can.
And the success that I've had tells me at least that I'm sort of on the right track, that I'm doing something kind of right.
And I just feel like everyone in their own way has something they can contribute.
I think everyone has their own talent and their own contribution they can make to the survival of our people.
And I just did it in the way that I thought that I could be most effective.
I just could not, I couldn't, I couldn't succeed in that town without having to interface directly with evil on a level that my soul was not prepared to do.
And that's the thing is I think Christians need to have a little bit of self-awareness there.
You know, one example of people getting mad that you associate with other people.
I was on Adam Green's stream like last week or whatever.
And his theory, I guess, his narrative is that Christianity itself is like a Jewish trick.
I don't think it's a plot that they've been executing for 2,000 years to reach the point that we're at.
But at the same time, some of his criticisms of the vulnerabilities that Christianity creates in terms of making white people more vulnerable to Jewish influence.
I mean, if Christians can't be self-aware enough to acknowledge some of those criticisms, there's always going to be an issue.
And that's, so I think that Christianity is definitely a part of European history, a very significant part.
I mean, there's no way you can deny that.
And I think it's defined our values for centuries.
And it's also just something that, you know, this is going to sound, I think, a little bad to some people, but like one of the metaphors I would use when talking to people that get angry at Christians and think that like, oh, well, we should just all be pagans or atheists or I don't know, something like that.
It's kind of like if you were to work in an industry that had adopted a computer system to track all of their sales and all of their inventory and all their accounting and everything back in like the 1970s or 80s, it's this ancient software maybe they got from IBM and it's running, you know, it's been patched so many times because it was initially developed for DOS or whatever.
And now here you are, you know, 40, 50 years later, and this software has been hacked together and patched together so much.
It's really inefficient and it really kind of sucks.
And it has like all these vulnerabilities that make it open to hackers and you're having to always patch it all the time and these inconveniences that are tied to these legacy systems that you're hooked into because you've had this software so long.
It's real easy for a software designer to look at that system and say, well, we should just rip it all out of the system and just everyone use Linux and use this new software that's open source and it's great and it's going to fix everything.
And it's easier said than done.
It's not something you can just do overnight.
And that because what happens is, let's say magically, let's just say for the sake of the argument that Christianity is like a big problem.
And that's the vulnerability that's going to make us lose against the people against white people or whatever.
Let's just say that was the case.
Okay, well, guess what?
You're not going to just be able to wave some magic wand and get rid of it.
You've got generations of people that are legacied into this system, this ideology.
And again, what would you replace it with?
What, paganism?
You think that people are going to stop believing in Jesus and start believing in Thor?
I mean, like, come on, like, what's what's you know, or are we going to make up some kind of weird thing like Stephan Molyneux, you know, what, what, whatever, whatever his libertarian morality thing that he keeps trying to start that's like a religion, or we're going to start believing in Apollo.
I mean, come on.
And so part of it is like, it's just not practical.
Even if Christianity was like some big, you know, vulnerability to the system, it's, you're kind of married to it at this point.
It's part of the system and it's part of the history, really, of our people.
And honestly, it's part of what I love about our people.
There's a lot of things that are uniquely Christian that differentiate us to other cultures and other religions that I like and that I think that do make us.
I mean, how can you look at some of these cathedrals in Europe as an example?
These are cathedrals that were built and that stand today as monuments to the greatness that white Christians can accomplish.
And I don't know.
I just, I find that kind of stuff inspiring.
I don't see it as quite the, I don't see it as the big problem with the, you know, oh, well, the whites are going to lose to Jewish influence just because there do happen to be a lot of there are.
There are a lot, especially in America.
There's a lot of Christian Zionists that are a problem that are going to be.
In fact, they're almost like AIDS, you know, when it comes to the white people immune system.
They're like the immune system attacking our own cells.
You know, it's like they're, it is a problem.
But I don't think you get rid of that problem by just like, oh, you know, Christianity is meaningless.
But that said, yeah, I think that race is, you're going to get more of a, I mean, Japan's another perfect example, right?
Japan is something like 5%, if that Christian.
And would you rather live in Japan or would you rather live in really an African country, which every African country has a higher percentage of Christians?
I don't think that Christianity is what is going to be what makes everything awesome.
But they're also not going to build a civilization where you have health care and scientific advancements.
So you die from a common infection.
So there's a lot more to worry about.
So, you know, some, you know, some I worked around a lot of atheists.
I learned that very hard way in college where I worked around a lot of atheists and they were much more helpful to my life than Christians.
And I like Christians more than atheists in terms of like, you know, around my children.
I wouldn't trust these atheists around my kids.
But building a society, we need to create a society based upon value sets.
And a lot of Christians are, you know, if they're not of white stock, they're very lazy.
That being said, cunning Drawi said, thank you for taking a walk and part in the war instead of leading part in a cage.
It's also good.
Thank you.
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Primetime Pimp says, Elijah, you are part of the Never Goon movement.
No.
So I'm kind of weird with the porn and the gooning stuff in terms of like, I objectively agree that porn is bad for society and that, you know, as a whole, porn is at a negative movement and that men should not look at porn.
I do understand there's different levels of porn engagement though.
Like I'm not one of these people that are like, everybody looks at porn.
It's destroying your life.
Like some people, porn is as much of advice as to a skinny person is sweets, right?
Like some people eat sweets once a week, once a month, and it's just as bad for them, makes them feel tired, ruins their perspective.
I'm not saying sweets and porn are the same thing.
I'm just saying, you know, people have different levels.
Some people, they look at porn every day and it sucks their testosterone and their life, their energy, and they don't date women.
They don't go out in the real world.
They don't, or they don't fuck their wife or whatever.
And yeah, that's, and that also, there's seasons of that too, right?
You could be a guy and all of a sudden you're not fucking your wife.
You're looking at too much porn.
Like, I get it.
So I think porn is a is a sexual vice.
And I do think that, you know, life is better without vices.
And I think most vices, some vices are not sin.
I think porn is sin all the time.
I think it's sexual immorality.
So I think it's always a Christian sin to look at porn.
But I also think that it can be less destructive in small amounts than infidelity.
But I think that it's hard to control it.
So if you look at it in small amounts, you might start looking at it in large amounts.
So once a week can turn into twice a week, can turn into seven times a week, can turn into seven times a day very quickly.
So I think it's a thing that you should look at none of, but I think that you shouldn't beat yourself up if every once in a while you fall into it because the internet is pushing it on your shoulders.
It's a very bad explanation of my opinion on it.
But I think that, you know, I also think that there's a sin of attrition and contrition.
So look, if you're about to, you know, fuck a girl that's not your wife or something, and then you looked at some porn and jerked off in the bathroom, I do think there's a lesser of a sin there of just trying to prevent yourself from binding yourself to another woman.
But I don't think that you can justify just looking at porn and jerking off so that you can feel good, right?
I mean, it's a very complicated issue.
We could talk, we could have a whole show on porn, but I think it's a sin overall.
But I also don't think the gooning, I think if you got to jerk off, like, I think if you like, if you're like going to the gym and you're working out and then you're seeing all these girls and you're gonna go fuck a girl and you're dating a girl or you're married and trying to stay faithful and you go home and jerk one off in the shower, I don't think there's anything wrong with that to try to control yourself from giving into your nature.
And if in time you're learning on maturing to overcome that threat, I just think people are too unrealistic about that shit, which is why most guys, I think 80% of Christian men look at porn.
It's a little over 70%, they say, on stats, but it's higher than that from guys I've talked to.
And then I think with the gooning, most people goon.
And I think we've got to get control of it.
Devin, I'm sure you have a different view than me, but I think it's an issue that's hard for me to address because I feel like most guys are doing it.
And I feel like it's something that we don't really have a lot of honest discussion about because it's hard to discuss because most pastors are doing it too.
Like if it was impossible, but it's like, it's like, like arguing against sodomy in the background is different than today, right?
Where it's like, dude, trust me, I was like a youth leader and like the shit that goes on today with these kids and shit, it's fucked up.
And I'm not, I'm not, you know, justifying it.
I'm just saying we've got to have an approach that works because it's not working for most people, right?
So we've got to find a way to help people.
I'm not saying like justify it and make it work for everyone.
I'm saying we've got to find a way to make it help people.
By the way, pronoun said, to clarify, it's not me selling the Lego tank.
It's the company Super Base.
Anyone that wants one can get one for the net price, a nice price of $14.88.
Okay.
Thank you.
That's very nice of you.
I'm honest.
It's very nice of you.
But I just wanted to say that there, just like some of these answers, I don't have answers for tonight, but I will have them in the future and we can talk about them.
Devin, if people want to find you and follow you, how can they follow you so we can close up the show?
We'll take you straight to the Odyssey channel and then black underscore pilled on Twitter, Black Pilled on Gab and Black Pilled on Telegram and Black Pill on Rumble as well.
Although I think there's like some fake ones, but you'll see the one that has all the followers is the one that's me.
