SCANDAL? DOJ Claims Benny Johnson & Lauren Chen Are RUSSIAN AGENTS | Guest: Natalie Winters
Less than 24 HOURS after Tim Pool launched a lawsuit against the Kamala Harris campaign — coincidentally a major DOJ indictment has been issued against the members of Tenet Media, claiming they’re RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION? Where have we heard that one before..Show more Also, a school shooting left 4 dead and 30 injured — and the White House wasted no time in trying to strip lawful gun owners’ rights. What is going on?
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The DOJ just released an indictment that names a company in question.
Now, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, Tenant Media, whose roster includes Benny Johnson, Tim Poole, and Dave Rubin, or formerly Dave Rubin, has allegedly received $10 million from the Russian government to publish content as a part of an influence campaign that's coming in from Raw's Alert.
We have the official article as well coming up in just a few moments.
I'm telling you this: Qatar, even Israel, if you want to give me $10 million to start a media company, fuck, I am in.
Okay, anyone want to join?
We'll have the drinks.
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We don't know if this is true or not, but we're going to be diving into this with my guests later in the show today.
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Brian, let's start the show.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, they's and them, he's and zurs.
So obviously, you know directly that there's this accusation going around.
There's an article.
You covered it earlier on your show.
This is a big deal because we're getting into the election.
A lot of things are ramping up.
We had a school shooting today.
Suddenly, Tucker Carlson, despite being the most popular podcast in Cannes Owen, being the second or third most popular news podcast, they are no longer conservatives because they don't support a certain country.
In the end, what am I trying to say here is that it's election season.
So I'm just happy to be here because also we're finding out Russia's back in the news and apparently they're funding all of the right-wing media from Denny Johnson to Tim Poole.
And I want to say this.
These are my friends, okay?
So I'm going to be biased on this topic.
And I'm not saying this.
So Benny Johnson's lawyers, he tweeted something out.
Don't come after me.
But before we jump into the article, I mean, initial thoughts.
When you see something like this in an election year, do you think the two are connected?
And I want to sort of contextualize this story because I don't think that it's something that is an isolated incident.
I don't really even think it has much to do with these individuals as entities or conservative personalities.
I think you have to take a step back to see the way that the left wing, the sort of regime media, has been stepping up what is, I think, very rather offensive information warfare when it comes to how they're approaching as we get closer to the 2024 election.
And what I mean by that is just over the last month or so, you've really seen a ratcheting up in terms of the narrative that President Trump is going to say it's a rigged election.
President Trump is going to say it was a stolen election and that the right wing is prepping to the nth degree to basically dispute the results of the forthcoming election.
Now, I always joke, I wish Republicans were the party that the Democrats made us out to be.
I wish we had the actual tenacity to pursue things like that.
We don't.
But there's been a myriad of narratives developing in the mainstream press, one of which is that there's a shortage of election workers because MAGA has alienated all these people from wanting to work and do their jobs.
They're threatening them.
They're scaring them.
There's going to be delays in election results because there's already delays in mail and ballot processing and the postal service workers are overburdened and overwhelmed.
You've seen, of course, the foreign influence narratives, right?
Particularly the new one with this election cycle is saying that Iran is trying to hack not just campaigns, but election sort of software too.
You saw Politico just last weekend put out a story saying that election software in the United States is not safe, is not secure.
They actually found the Ukrainian national anthem embedded in our election software.
Now, I bring all of this up to set all of that up to bring us to now today, right?
Which is the DOJ, FBI, the State Department, I believe they broke it through there, though they did launder it through.
I believe CNN had the exclusive a few hours before the story kind of came to fruition and these sanctions and going after these various Russian entities for election interference materialized.
So I say all that because you can't view this as something that's just happening right now randomly.
This is happening as the left, the sort of regime media apparatus, is just ratcheting up their disinformation tactics as we barrel towards the 2024 election.
So it really is only the logical extension and conclusion of, of course, their foreign election interference narrative to go after these conservative personalities.
We can obviously get into the nitty-gritty of the indictment.
Frankly, the whole entire mainstream media operation is funded not just by their corporate sponsors, but by a litany of foreign governments.
But I think that the media, they work, they drop these indictments.
It's the timing.
That's the variable that I find more interesting than the actual indictment itself.
So the question is why now?
And I think it's because they're really getting ready to double down on the foreign election interference narrative so they can then, by extension, crack down on shows who sort of fit the metadata, fit the profile of what Russian disinformation agents would look like, myself, yourself included.
I guess Daily Dot doesn't have good formatting, but a media startup from Benny Johnson, Tim Poole, and Dave Rubin was a secret Russian influence campaign indictment alleges.
A famous pro-Trump commentator has been unwittingly duped.
Now, a media startup from reactionary luminaries such as Tim Poole, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin, and Lauren Southern and others secretly received funding from Russia.
A new federal indictment alleges.
The Department of Justice charged two employees of Russia today with violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, FARA, saying they participated in a $10 million scheme to create and distribute content to U.S. audiences with a hidden Russian government messaging.
Now, it goes on to explain here that the press release from the DOJ says that the Russian state broadcast RT orchestrated a massive scheme to influence the American public by secretly planting and financing a content creation company on U.S. soil.
Now, even further than that, although the company isn't listed in the indictment, context clues reveal it is most likely Tenet Media.
On its website, the U.S. company describes itself as a network of heterodox commentators that focus on Western political and cultural issues and identifies six commentators, including commentator 1-2 as its talent.
On YouTube, Tenet Media describes itself as a network of heterodox commentators.
Its homepage highlights six commentators, Ruben, Johnson, Poole, Southern, as well as Taylor Hansen and Matt Christensen.
The indictment also highlights one of the founders of Tenet, Lauren Chen, claiming that she worked to deceive the commentators about the funding of the group.
So I think this is like one of the main things.
Let me see if I turn down your game there a little bit.
That might help a little bit.
See, Brian, is her volume five talking for a second?
Okay, so there's an accusation, and this is where we're going to start in this conversation.
The accusation is that Russia is being used to secretly channel and fund right-wing operations, particularly a few of our colleagues and our friends, that being Lauren Chen.
And they're saying that, you know, involved in this are very big and reputable individuals like Tim Poole.
Benny Johnson combined millions and millions of followers, bigger than maybe multiple people combined.
And they're claiming that not that they knew, but that Lauren Chen knew about the money and that she deceived them into thinking that it was maybe a French person or somebody else that was funding the project.
But really, she was getting back channel money from Russia.
So before we even talk about the ethical side of this, Lauren has not made a public statement from my understanding.
Are you on the same boat with that?
And nobody has made a statement, from my understanding, denying that this is true.
All I've seen is Benny Johnson saying that he didn't know about this.
So I want to break this down because people might be saying, why are we talking about this?
Well, again, the reason why we have to break this down is because they're going to, if Trump somehow wins, which is going to be a long shot, because we're not talking about a fair election here.
We're talking about a rigged performance.
You know, they're going to say if he wins that Russia, you know, hacked the election and they're going to not certify things.
That's going to be one of their ploys.
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All right, Natalie, let's talk about this.
So this is an interesting thing.
Okay.
So Benny Johnson came out with a similar topic.
To me, what this seems like is that I don't think Benny Johnson or Tim, who are very rich and have a lot of lawyers and stuff, I don't think they would make public statements like this unless there was maybe some validity to the story.
I don't think they get lied about a lot.
I don't see people like this responding to hit pieces unless there was some validity.
I don't know what your opinion is up front.
And again, I want to be careful because I really like Lauren Chen and I will talk about whether there's it matters.
It does this even matter.
But it seems like to me they're distancing themselves from her and setting themselves up to throw her under the bus.
Well, I think your framing is very correct that they're using this to sort of start seeding the Russian election meddling narrative, even should Trump win, right?
I think it's probably a very exciting day for Rachel Maddow and our better superior overlords at MSNBC right every day.
The Russia collusion, we're going to get the evidence today.
This is probably the most, I would say, substantive evidence, right, that you could have that would sort of corroborate or footnote if there were any actual Russian disinformation campaigns.
Like you said, we can get into the, I think, intricacies of what they did is something that is really wholly unique to the media landscape that we inhabit.
But I think it's important because if this is their smoking gun, right, about what Russian collusion is in American media among the right wing, I'm not saying that Tim Poole or Benny Johnson are big influencers, but it's not like they got Fox News.
It's not like they got some huge, really elaborate, you know, mainstream media dominating campaign.
You're talking about $10 million at the end of the day, which I know is a lot of money for one media company.
But if they're hinging the Russia hoax collusion narrative, right, that they have been peddling for like nearly a decade, and this is their big kind of smoking gun story.
And when you're also, it's not even like they necessarily created these new entities to create a person.
And where this is a bit of a niche critique of the story, but Tim Poole was a person before.
Tim Poole had opinions on the Ukraine war before tenant media was ever a thing.
So my point being, I think it shows you how watered down, if this is, if this is the angle that this is the best that the DOJ, that the Biden regime had to go with to like sort of footnote or evidence their Russia collusion narrative, I think it in a weird way shows you how weak it actually kind of is.
But I also think too, it's important to sort of draw the distinction, right?
You have Lauren Chen and her husband who allegedly duped kind of all the other players.
It's not like it was all one big happy, you know, Russian disinformation family.
They were sort of saying that there was a smokescreen.
They didn't really know what was going on.
But I also think too, it's sort of an interesting, like we said, this is a developing story, so who knows?
But I also think that there's just sort of an interesting, I would don't know if I would call it a Freudian slip on the part of sort of our elites or whatever, but this narrative that like the American people are so dumb that they'll just fall for Russian disinformation, i.e., if they were to just see, and you sort of see this story dovetailing with, I think, the broader Russian election interference story that the DOJ and the State Department held a press conference on today.
Like the idea that if, you know, Joe in Idaho reads an article from RT, oh, he was all gung-ho on Kamala, but then he read an RT story and then all of a sudden it made him pivot to Trump.
Like, I just don't really buy that narrative that American people are that dumb that just because they read one RT article or Tim Poole takes a position on, like, I don't really, first of all, do many American people really even care that much about like the Ukraine conflict.
I don't really think that that's like the driving issue.
So and like I'm aware that disinformation takes many forms.
War and was called the number one spreader of misinformation by the New York Times.
But my point being that, like, even say you take this indictment at face value and say it is what it is, there is still a genuine contingent of the United States of American people who don't want to support Ukraine.
And you can't discredit or invalidate that entire sect, which is frankly from the polls, the majority of American people.
It's not because of Russian disinformation that they feel that way, right?
America First Sentiment is not derived from Russian disinformation or $10 million being channeled and pumped through.
So this is again why I'm always skeptical of people who are left.
You know, like Constantine Kisson and Francis J. Foster.
I think that's the, I think this is the Australian podcast.
You know, they tend to really interview the most liberal of the right-wingers, right?
The more neoliberal, progressive right-wingers.
And this is somebody who is, you know, for all intents and purposes.
I'm not going to make any comments about this individual.
But this individual brought up the story here and said a DOJ indictment suggests that Lauren Chen is an alleged Russian agent who is said to have accepted upwards of $10 million to start tenant media and push divisive political rhetoric, Russian propaganda in the U.S. Chenna's encouraged Republicans to withhold their vote for Trump for not being conservative and pro-life enough.
She has advocated against the 19th Amendment and said Hamas rioters on college campuses were being arrested for free speech.
She has stated that Trump has abandoned Christian conservatives for the Enriquez and Jamal.
Seriously, going to leave this clip here for an appearance I did on Constantine Kissing and Francis J. Foster months ago.
And I said I believe this rhetoric to be boosted by foreign influence and money.
Now, it's not relevant to the fact that the person who posted this is Jewish.
But obviously, the reason why I bring up that they're Jewish is because a lot of Jewish people are mad at Lauren Chen recently, because Lauren Chen has not taken a pro-Israel stance on the conflict.
So of course, you know, they're not, again, saying that Lauren Chen's opinions are false or what she said is wrong.
It's always these people that they're saying, like, oh, it's, you know, what she said, seriously, it's rude.
It's rhetoric.
It's racist.
It's misogynist.
These are the left-wingers on the right wing that are meant to divide us.
And I'm going to tell you this.
The majority of people who are popular on the right wing are very progressive.
They're very liberal.
And they're here to keep and gatekeep a real right wing from developing.
Now, Lauren Chen is white adjacent, right?
I think she's like half white, half Asian or whatever.
But nobody's really mad at the Japanese in America.
They're not really doing a lot of crazy shit, right?
So she takes this position.
She's friendly with Nick Fuentes.
She works at my old network at the Blaze.
She's still got an establishment position.
And that makes her a threat because she's married.
So I want to be careful.
I'm married too.
I don't care how I describe her.
You can describe her.
She's an attractive girl, right?
There you go.
Okay, so she's an attractive girl.
That's difficult because obviously, girls that are less attractive don't like more attractive women.
Secondly, she's not a dumb bimbo, she's not a whore.
She doesn't have to sleep her right her way to the top.
She was like, oh, and they beat me and she was lying, right?
I mean, we see girls good on record and lie.
The crazy thing is, I think what's crazy is this information comes out, and this is what I want to hear you comment on.
Like Malcolm Fleck said here, this information comes out a day after Tim Poole decides to take legal counsel and sue the Kamala Harris campaign for saying that they were trying to get people killed.
This comes out the next day, and then what happens when the information comes out?
Jewish people start running with the narrative to use it to attack Lauren Chen and discredit her as being a foreign agent.
And, you know, she's been having beef, apparently, with the Jewish population.
That's the only reason why I mention it.
I just feel like this is more bullshit.
That's like, you said the left is going to use it to push that Russia's controlling politics.
I feel like the right con Ink is going to use it to try to discredit Lauren Chen because she's not a Zionist.
And to me, this is just fucking bullshit that reminds me that you got to not be as retarded as these people.
And fuck them all.
That's why I don't work with these people.
Fuck them.
They're a bunch of losers.
I hate all these people on the left and the right.
I vehemently hate them.
And I hope they die.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I don't hope they die.
But I don't want to get, you know, it's Kamala Harris to be quoting me on that.
As opposed to like substantive policy discussions.
And I think that in some ways, I think it's sort of a feminine, like, woman caddy thing, like you were alluding to.
But I also think, too, they start using these terms to silence certain, I don't even, right-wingers, we'll call it that.
Like, for instance, they said, you know, oh, divisive political rhetoric.
And I've just never really like bought into this narrative that divisiveness or, you know, disunity or that, what's the word they always use?
Just like general political discord is a bad thing.
I'm not saying civil war is good, but Americans in the history of this country, we've always disagreed.
Political divisiveness and having different opinions, that only goes to shit when you don't have the First Amendment, right?
When you can't speak it out, when you can't duke it out on social media platforms because they're being so heavily censored.
So I don't, this narrative that like Russia is pushing political divisiveness in the United States, we've always been a very politically divisive.
It's just, I think we start kind of accepting the left's framing or the sort of more establishment rights framing of positions.
And we don't even like realize the psyop that is being waged on us in the sense that it's like, no, I can sit here and tell you that we should not be giving a single penny more, let alone a single penny to begin with, to Ukraine, not because I've ever taken any foreign money, not because I have any allegiance to Russia, but I could walk you through chapter and verse why that's my issue.
But then I think it's very interesting, like you said, when you see the springboarding of using these stories, which really are isolated incidents, right?
It's like one person, a one-off, a $10 million media company.
I know that might sound like a lot of money, but in the scope of media, it's really not a lot of money.
And I just think that that is what the left always does.
And to the timing of it, I mean, there's so many infamous tweets of, you know, every time they would drop another indictment or damning letter, a damning piece of evidence on Hunter Biden, it was the day after that they would indict Trump for another case in another state.
Right now we're up to like four, although I guess they dismissed reworked ones, so like three and a half.
But the timing is so important.
I think timing is something that's very important to elites too, just like in general, right?
They like to send kind of smoke signals of like, oh, you crossed the line.
So we're going to punish you.
But there's absolutely no, no reason that they would have, they could have dropped this whenever, right?
Right.
So I think, you know, there's a, there's a tacit kind of admission there of like, oh, you're going to come after us.
Well, we will come after you with the entire force of the federal government, which I think gets to the other layer of nuanced critique of this whole indictment, which is that, I mean, these people, all they do is deal in projection, right?
Accuse the enemy of what you're guilty of.
In the same breath that they're saying that we're all, you know, Russian disinformation, disinformation agents who are, you know, destroying democracy.
They're throwing their political prisoner, their critics in jail.
They're acting like the worst trope of the Russian government.
I would know that firsthand working for Steve Bannon, who's sitting in a prison right now.
So they just, they act like they have all the moral supremacy to cast stones at Tim Poole.
And it's like, no, no, no, you guys are worse than your worst caricature of Putin.
So first of all, Harrison Smith, who's an Infowars host, said that the indictment says that the Russian source of funds was concealed from them.
So he's claiming the indictment, I haven't read the whole thing, says that, you know, Chen and these people didn't actually know about this.
And that's the best case scenario is this.
I don't think it really matters if you're taking money from anyone.
You just got to be clear about it.
But the joke that I have is it's too bad they weren't taking money from Israeli connected sources because then if you criticize them, you would be an anti-Semite.
Because that's what we see today is that it's not really about that we care about foreign money.
It's that we care about foreign money from certain countries.
And that's always been my gripe.
You know, we were talking about this earlier in the show.
I think a lot of people, you know, throw me into a bucket and they're like, oh, he's an anti-Semite.
He's an anti-Semite.
And I go, you know, I'm not that cool.
You know what I mean?
But you can call me that, but I'm just trying to be consistent here on my logic in the fact that if you don't want foreign money in government or in politics, then let's just be universal, right?
It doesn't matter if we're targeting Israel or China or Russia or Kazakhstan.
It doesn't matter.
Foreign money in politics equals bad.
We don't want this.
And I just find it funny that the media companies that we go around will take, you know, $50 million from a pharmaceutical company.
And somehow that's normal.
You know, a corrupt megala, you know, intra-changing corporation to lie and kill the American people.
You know, places like Newsmax, Breitbart, these places, they'll fly you to Israel to literally give you the trip, which I told you, I told you earlier.
I'm not going to say who, but I was offered the trip just this year again to go to Israel.
You know, all this stuff is sanctioned, but then Russia, God forbid.
And so to me, it's hard for me to take anyone seriously because it's like, okay, if you're really against foreign money in politics, then fine.
But if you're not really against that, you know, all these corporate money and all this foreign interest money, because corporate money is foreign interest money.
These people are dual citizens.
They don't, you know, they're globalists.
They don't care about our country.
So if you're not against that and against the other fuck you to the mainstream media, you know, I think we have a there you go.
But yeah, I think I'm just saying fuck you to the mainstream media because I don't think they give a I don't think they give a flying fuck.
And I don't care if they were taking money from the Russian government.
I think the only thing people want to know is did Chen and them know and did they did they intentionally lie or conceal it from the people that signed on because I think that would decide whether or not this company continues.
And again, why are we talking about this?
Because this is going to come up all year, by the way.
Not to co-op the conversation and make it about China, but my background is in Chinese Communist Party infiltration.
I'm happily sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party for my work with Steve.
I was just cited in the House Republican letter to the FBI director on Tim Waltz's ties to China for a story that I had broken about how he was doing bad things with bad Chinese people.
And I was cited in the Biden impeachment inquiry too, which is very cool, which will go absolutely nowhere because they waited way too long to do it because House Republicans only know how to lose.
But to get very granular on to the point you were just saying, one of the first stories that I ever broke literally was how the Chinese Communist Party, through these kind of proxy groups that are arguably much more directly linked to the Chinese regime than any of these sort of like shell Russian entities are, particularly one group by the name of the China-United States Exchange Foundation.
They always have these very like innocuous, like very fresh off-the-boat sounding names, like the Chinese Association for International Friendly Contact.
It's a euphemism.
I've ever heard one, but they had a very calculated program where they would fly Western journalists from CNN, the New York Times, Washington Post, Harvard Business Review, even some people from Fox, but literally from like every news outlet, I could read it.
There's like several dozen outlets.
And they would pay to take them on trips overseas to China, sort of like what you were alluding to.
And through the FARA filings, it was that upon return, they had to give China, quote, favorable coverage.
And they were selecting journalists to quote disseminate positive messages about China.
Now, I obviously said the F word.
I said FARA.
So QSEF and their lobbyist, a group I believe is Wilson Public Relations, who is a lady who's very close with Obama, like part of the DNC machine.
It was her firm that was reping QSEF.
So she registered with FARA, but they never identified the names of any of the journalists who were taking the trips to China.
And they were meeting with PLA commanders, Huawei, DJI drones, companies that were actively sanctioned by the United States that had ties to the military.
They were meeting with, as Trump would say, bad ombres.
And it was very clear that these were calculated foreign influence operations.
But none of those journalists ever registered with FARA.
None of their identities were ever actually released.
The only way that I found it was through deleted documents on QSEF's website and just like one-off, you know, kind of Boolean searches of like QSEF, China trip 2011, 2012.
So I was able to piece together, and this story is like two or three years old, but the identities of probably over a dozen of them.
And it's very funny to me.
One of them was the husband of Wendy Sherman, who was the former Deputy Secretary of State under Joe Biden.
Other people include someone who like Joe Biden has repeatedly done interviews with and is very close.
And one other name, I got to look it up.
But my point being, like, this is how media works.
And it's just Russia now because, you know, the radicals and NATO and, you know, at the Atlantic Council, because they hate Russia, and especially because of Ukraine, now it's like really edgy.
They really hate Russia.
Now they're just kind of on the chopping block.
And I also think the other thing that we just have to say to preface this whole thing is someone who's consumed a lot of Chinese state media and like looked at a lot of RT stuff.
And I'm happy to say this because I personally would never take RT money.
But foreigners suck at propaganda.
I think that's like the other thing that we have to put out there.
Like, my point is, China, this one group, QSEF, who was also, by the way, doing these same trips, these like pay-for-play trips with the Congressional Black Caucus, with academics, with John Podesta and his Center for American Progress think tank.
So like, no offense, Democrats, but like, shut the fuck up.
Okay, you guys have been doing this too.
But they, they brag about who they're taking on the trips in their brochures, like the Chinese people do.
So my point being, if you're trying to have clandestine meetings with people, you should be bragging about the influence you have over them.
And CGTN, like China Global Television Network, which, by the way, the funniest part too in all this, it was actually the Trump administration who back, I think it was in year one or two of their admin that they compelled a lot of these Chinese foreign media entities to register with Farah.
The left lost their mind.
They were like, this is racist.
This is crazy.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Biden then went after like RT and kind of that derivative of it.
But the Trump campaign kind of did this first.
They just went after the China stuff.
So you're very right in that they just, it's the enemy of the day.
And today it's Russia.
But I would love to see, and I'm going to do this when I get home, the journalist that I did identify who took those trips to China, what they're saying about these people now, because maybe we'll just have to remind them about the pay-for-play channel.
It was like, they were like, you fuck you, you white girl, you a Trump supporter.
I was like, that was literally an African, that's an African, I'm an African-American.
And his guns and his underwear is sticking out, and they're kicking her shoe, they're like tapping it, and everyone's like, every right-wing channel is like, breaking news, Trump supporter, beat up.
Like my point, I always say this whenever people are like, oh, the Hunter Biden hard drive was Russian disinformation, which I broke a lot of stories from.
But you really think like if the Russian disinformation scam was so elaborate and so well-funded and just, you know, elite tier that they were like, oh, who should we shop this to that the majority of Americans are going to believe that this story is legitimate?
Rudy Giuliani and Stephen K. Banner.
Like that's preposterous.
I love Steve.
I love Rudy.
I think they're right.
But that's not really someone who I would launder like what you would want to look something to look credible through, right?
So it's just, again, I know this is probably like a black pill take on the whole thing, but it's just, I think, actually rather a white pill in that this whole, it sort of, I think, kind of cripples the Russia disinformation information narrative.
Because if they really had such a hold and stranglehold on our media, they wouldn't need to be like doing these piecemeal, like tenant media, I think they have a nice production value, but do they really have that much of an like, I just, I don't really think it was that successful of an operation.
Like if they're hinging that Russia was able to persuade whatever percentage of the American electorate and they're banking on tenant media being their platform of choice, I mean, I would love to see what their viewership is, but it's just, it's not, it's not enough to, I think, cause this like five-alarm fire that they have set and started that is, oh, Russian disinformation is the greatest national security threat that we face is the United States.
And I think, like, this is going to talk about the politicization.
I think this is the right word.
I don't know if that's correct of stuff.
So there's a school shooting today in Appalachie.
I think it's what Lapalachie, Georgia.
We just know a 14-year-old boy.
I happen to think, okay, it might be a white boy.
I don't know.
I just know if it was like a straight white guy, I feel like we'd know more about the shooter by now.
He's white, yeah, Brian.
Do we have a picture of him?
Let me see.
Okay, let me let me uh let me look this up then because uh because this is Appalachi shooter.
Let me see if we can find an image.
Um, I'm not seeing anything uh up.
I don't know if you want to look on on X and see if you can find anything.
But essentially, um, just to kind of give people a background, right?
Four people were shot, 30 were injured.
And I happen to think school shootings were started by the CIA and the FBI.
I think there's good evidence that the Vegas shooting was some sort of foreign operation involved with things.
I think Sandy Hook, you know, a lot of these things have a lot of questions to be answered.
I don't want to be sued for a billion dollars.
So I'll just say, you know, it's questionable that you would tear down schools.
Right.
We're right by the Stoneman Douglas High School.
So they're tearing down that building right now, too.
And of course, I used to live next to Waco.
So we know that the government sometimes does some crazy shit.
However, I want to try to think that we don't live in a country that the government, you know, gets something started to create a narrative to accomplish a goal.
However, within like hours after this happened, Drew Hernandez, an excellent journalist, you guys can watch his show on Rumble.
Within hours of the mass shooting in Georgia, Democrats are already calling for gun reform.
So this is being used to call ahead of the election to bring gun reform, aka violation of our amendment, back into the conversation.
As the president has said time and time again, this is not normal.
This is not normal.
Students and teachers deserve to know that their schools are safe.
They should focus on learning, not lockdowns.
While the president and vice president have taken historic action to reduce gun violence, more must be done to keep our schools and communities safe.
We continue to call on Congress to do something, to do something.
We need universal background checks.
We need ban to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, require safe storage of firearms, invest in violence prevention programs, and pass a national red flag law.
Enough is enough.
And I cannot say this enough, which is enough is enough.
We cannot allow this to happen in our communities.
We cannot allow this to happen in our schools.
So we have to do everything that we can to keep our children safe, to keep the people who are supposed to protect our children, who are they supposed to learn from safe.
So I'm trying to find out if I can say something on air right now, by the way, because I'm getting some information about this Russian thing, like live.
And yeah, we'll see.
I'm asking if I can get approval to talk about this on air.
But anyway, talking about this, the fact that they're Already, you know, just they're using this to push gun reform during election year.
I don't know.
I just don't think that people go around just shooting up schools and the government doesn't isn't aware of it.
I don't think kids do crimes without talking about it on social media, without letting people know.
And we find out almost every school shooter was on the FBI terror watch list or the Uvalde shooter was on the part of the mass shooter awareness program or whatever it was.
Well, I think it's there's two sort of logical trains of thought.
It's either incompetence, right, on our authorities' parts, which don't get me wrong, they definitely are deserving of that.
But in some ways, I think that that like, you know, DEI affirmative action critique of, you know, the Secret Service or whatever institution, FBI, you name it, sort of is a cop-out for what is, I think, the darker and frankly, in some ways, I think, more accurate take, which is that, you know, when the FBI sort of catches wind of people like this or whoever it is, you know, and then suddenly they're in group chats with them and there's, you know,
unindicted co-conspirators and there's nameless people in these group chats who are encouraging them, ratcheting up the sort of political press or the divisiveness is a word I've heard not too, not too long ago.
I think it makes you wonder.
And I think they sort of play an interesting game where, you know, even just sitting here, it's like, you know, we don't want to go full crazy, right?
And then they set up this like, you know, sham congressional investigation committee with a bunch of rhinos on it.
Say, oh, look, we're looking into this shooting.
It's like, you know, boomer bait.
Like, oh, look, we're taking it seriously.
They're not doing anything.
And then, okay, I guess Heritage held a Heritage held a briefing doing an independent investigation.
Sort of, I think the best way that I look at it, just for the reference of my reporting, is like the COVID origin stuff, right?
They say, oh, well, you can't say that the lab leak, that it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology because you don't have the evidence to prove that.
I'm like, well, yeah, if the Chinese Communist Party engages in a mass deletion campaign, deletes all the evidence, the WHO comes in and runs cover for them.
So they effectively, you know, whitewash all the information, bleach bit it so you can't, it doesn't exist anymore.
Well, yeah, you are right.
I don't have the evidence per se, but that doesn't disprove it.
And I think that that's sort of the weird game that the feds play with like all this shooting stuff is they never disprove it sufficiently.
And then in the same breath that they complain about conspiracy theorists, you know, we don't want to give fodder to conspiracy theorists.
They give them all the fodder, right, by not giving them actually substantive information.
And then I think this is where you really get into, I think the most definitive evidence that there is some level of like Fed involvement in all this stuff.
And I don't mean in this stuff necessarily when it comes to school shootings, but I just mean in these like crisis events that then suddenly materialize or galvanize political action is we've seen the unmasking of the massive censorship operations, right?
The censorship industrial complex, whatever you want to call it, to make discussions of these topics basically, you can't have them.
And you get, you know, misconstrued as a Russian agent.
Right.
And I think that the evidence, since they have stripped away all the actual evidence, in some ways, you know, professionally cleaned it, I think you look at their actions.
And I think, you know, it's the age-old to me.
I view everything through the lens of like the age-old conservative on a college campus debate.
If what you had to say is so dumb and so stupid, you should let these people speak to as many kids as possible because they're not going to convert them.
I think it's the same critique with all the my ideas on social media are so bad or so reprehensible or so unfactual that the FBI could so quickly disprove them, then the best thing you could do is put people like Alex Jones on a podium, do a freaking FBI debate Alex Jones type thing.
But they don't do that either because A, they know they're wrong or B, frankly, I just don't think they give two fucks about the American people and actually like trying to prove to them something untrue or true because historically they've just been able to throttle their finger on the kind of pulse of censorship for so long.
So I can say I got, okay, a report from somebody directly involved in this situation with the Russian thing.
No one ever told them what shows to do or who to book or what guests to have on.
And they're unsure if Lauren Chen actually knew, but apparently Lauren Chen got her phone seized, which is why she hasn't made a comment or no one's heard from her.
And that's alleged from someone directly involved in the situation.
But true or not, they had no information.
There was this investigation or indictment going on.
And if it's true, then there's going to be some big trouble, legal trouble between Chen and these people and possibly violence.
That's what I know the violence was a joke.
I hope it was a joke.
This is one of the people directly connected.
So apparently she got her phone seized, which is pretty crazy.
We'll say that what they did was bad when the mainstream media nets say that taking when they disavow taking money from big pharma and Qatar is real, John.
And obviously, for all intents and purposes, I'm just going to say right now on the show, I don't agree with that statement because that statement ruined my financial life.
Okay.
So I don't agree with that statement.
But meaning, so I got a call from advertisers the next day.
This is how it works.
Okay.
I think it was, I think it was, it might have been the ADL or it was Mediaite, one of them that watches my show and clips everything out.
So I went on the most sexist 10-minute rant, and it was supposed to be a joke.
Like, let me be really sexist here for a second.
They clipped it out and were like, see, we told you sexist.
So they don't even like keep the context of the show.
But anyway, with clipping this out, they clipped out the idea that this person said this.
They sent it to the advertisers.
Look, here's what Elijah's guests say.
They're attacking gay kids.
He made a joke with Dave Landau, which also went viral, where we said that when they were claiming that Texas, they're killing trans kids.
We were saying that it's a birthright in Texas.
They give you a gun and you get to kill their trans kid.
You know, it's part of the culture.
They don't understand dark humor.
And I'm still telling people how this works.
I get a call from my agent.
Your main advertisers are going to pull.
Literally, one of them is flying out to go see you because this is back when like a seven-figure budget on the show.
And people don't know a lot of the views from my old network.
They're artificial.
They pay for like boostings.
So does Daily Why Everyone pays for this boosting in YouTube?
So people wonder why numbers are always higher and why they're lower sometimes.
It's because a lot of times nobody actually really watches these shows like you would think.
People really watch your show.
They are actually on there.
But these people pay the big tech companies to boost their shit.
I don't know if people know this, but this is true.
And so it's like, hey, they need a lot of money for that.
It costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to boost shit, right?
I mean, this is expensive stuff.
So I don't need to go through the whole thing.
The person came, weirdest fucking situation of my life.
And in the end, I wouldn't stop the guests from coming on.
I wouldn't delete what they said.
I said, I'm not going to censor.
And we probably lost, yeah, we lost 50% of our advertisers that day.
And they said, because you have to take this down and you have to publicly apologize and you've got to release a statement and you've got to ban this person from your show and you've got to this and that and that.
And now the person never apologized to me for that.
So that was kind of sucks for just like at least saying, hey, I'm sorry, I got your fucking show, you know, nuked.
But, but meaning that's what they do.
They come to you say, hey, look, if you don't apologize and confess and say you like love the gay community and stuff, this is that a conservative, you know, situation, then you're going to lose your money.
And to me, I said, fuck you.
Same thing with the Kyle Rittenhouse thing, right?
I lost Black Rifle Coffee.
That was that whole scandal because I said that Kyle Rittenhouse liked Black Rifle Coffee.
And I mean, look, I've lost seven figures now in advertisers for not reneging on what I'm saying.
I'm sure you guys have the same thing, which is, which is also, you know, why we don't have Coca-Cola and Tommy John and stuff sponsoring the show anymore.
Because I'm not going to fucking apologize to the gay community because fuck you guys.
Like, that's the, I think, the sickest part of the whole Russian projection, right?
Is it like, you're acting like the American meeting, not you, but they're acting like the American media sphere is like holier than thou and that we operate in such adherence to freedom of the press and you can say whatever you want.
Like the people who work at Media Matters, the people who work at right-wing watch, the people who work at, you know, insert, far-left, weird, dark money group here, they are a hundred times worse than like any Putin autocrat in terms of the way that they think about how it is okay to go after members of the so-called opposition party.
Look no further than Stephen K. Bannon being in jail, Peter Navarro going to jail, what they want to do to Trump, what they did to the January 6th protesters.
Like these people are evil.
And it's really funny to watch them cast stones at Russia, which I'm not even some like, you know, Russia simp, Russia fight.
Like, I think America's great.
I live here.
If I wanted to live in Russia, I would live there.
I just think it's twisted and sick how these people act with such a sense of superiority when in the same breath that they're willing to condemn Putin, they also are applauding at the DNC on their freedom-themed night when they're playing the montage about locking up January 6th protesters.
And the loudest line of applause you heard that night was when the slide came on that said over 1,500 Americans, your fellow Americans, have been locked up for their actions on January 6th.
So like spare me the theatrics about Russia meddling in our election and media when you guys are 10 times worse.
And that's not Russia paying me to say that.
It's true.
Like they have taken, I always say the circumstantial evidence that our elites are in business with the Chinese Communist Party is that they act like them, right?
It's like Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, they spent so much time meeting with members of the Chinese Communist Party.
They kind of like, we're like, oh, we like the system you got going on over there.
We're kind of envious how you guys just like subjugate your own people.
You have fake sham elections and you jail your opposition leaders under the concept of transitional justice.
And it's just, it's so, it's so sick.
But like when you see it, I think, because we're on both, kind of both sides of it, like you see the lie.
It's not disheartening or blackpilling, like whatever.
But these people are evil.
And it's even like to the point of the censorship, censorship stuff, like with the Mark Zuckerberg letter, we did a big segment on our show, you know, for all the like dumb conservatives who are like, this is so great.
Mark Zuckerberg is on our team.
He admitted that he like rigged the election, murdered free speech.
But now he's going to be on our side.
I'm like, no, if you read the letter, this is like laying the groundwork for more censorship to happen because now Mark Zuckerberg is like, oh, we're never going to collaborate with the federal government.
And by the way, if you rig an election, I want a little more than like three weekly worded sentences saying, oh, hey, sorry, I plowed nearly a billion dollars into privatizing the administration of elections here in the United States.
And our members of Congress are so dumb that they called it a huge win for free speech.
But like within that letter, and I think too, just within the general broader critique of the censorship industrial complex, yes, I'm the first to place blame on the United States government and outsourcing a lot of the kind of infringement on the First Amendment to these like shady NGOs, right?
There's always a convenient report that the Atlanta Council or Brookings Institution puts out.
And then all of a sudden that's like hardwired into federal government policy.
But I think you could also very easily make the argument, even Sans, the United States government, the far left lunatics who are working at these big tech companies, they would still strip your show of advertisement.
They would still come after War Room, even without the encouragement of the federal government, because ideologically, these people hate you just for being a straight white male.
They hate me for working for Steve Bannon.
So I just think that there's just this like funny dance that we have to act where it's like, oh, well, when they cast the stones at us saying that we're agents of Russian disinformation, it's like, okay, even if we were, which we're not, you guys are 900, 100 times worse.
Who cares at this point if you're taking money from Russia?
Okay, so I want to clarify this show is not taking money from Russia.
And if you're just joining the stream, I just clarified, you can watch the last show in detail about how I've been offered money from Russia multiple times.
I haven't taken it.
I've been offered the trip to Israel and I've been offered $10,000 from Qatar.
And I recently was involved in an Israeli disinformation campaign with a big super PAC.
You can watch old shows about this, about disinformation after they murdered two young boys and try to claim they had an IED in their hand.
And I blew that out of the water.
But of course, some Pregnant U personalities and individuals shared that information and they had to delete it after I called them out for fucking lying for the IDF.
Anyway, this is not uncommon.
This is how it works here.
But if Russia wants to fund you, if they're not controlling what you say, but they just like what you are and they want to give you money, that is a big difference than doing what they want.
But also, look, until, like we said, until the media stops taking big pharma money and Newsmax, all these people stop taking Israeli PAC money and Trump stops taking Adelson money, then fuck you.
Just embrace it.
You just don't need to be sneaky about it.
Then just say, you know what?
Yeah, we take money from a country that backs right-wing ideas because honestly, Russia is cosmopolitan, but it also is conservative.
And they do uphold certain values.
That doesn't mean you love Putin.
It doesn't mean you think he isn't evil.
It doesn't mean you don't think he's, you know, whatever.
We'll talk about Tucker in a little bit.
But look, it's not, you can't say that Putin is a bad guy and the American government are the good guys.
You could say that, you know, nobody running any government are fully good guys.
But at least Putin respects the Orthodox church.
At least he respects his people enough to not allow you to act like a faggot in public.
Like, it's not illegal to be gay.
And people get really weird.
Like, oh, Putin's a Jew and this.
Like, I don't know any of this stuff.
Okay.
I'm not a foreign policy expert on Russia.
But I can tell you this.
He seems a hell of a lot more respectful of conservative values, nationalism, and identity than Western leaders.
And it seems like that's why they hate him.
And it doesn't mean that he isn't crazy.
I don't want to live there.
I don't think they have more rights.
I'm not, that's not what I'm not an apologist.
But if a Russian-backed organization, I didn't want to work for RT because I knew that once I worked for RT, they were just going to discredit everything that I would say, saying, oh, you're Russian propaganda, you're Russian propaganda.
But if you're not American, like Lauren Chen is not American.
I'm not going to say that I'm not sure.
So that's what I'm trying to say.
It's like, if a non-American person wants to take money from Russia, what's the difference between taking money from that or any company?
Like, it's not even wrong to take money from a pharmaceutical company as long as they're not influencing what you say, but we know they do.
So you can't call a spade a spade when you yourself are a fucking club.
Like you can't go out there and think like, oh, it's so bad.
They took money from a Russian backer.
Bitch, you guys are all taking money from backers.
I think the only issue is if there was some deception involved.
That's the only issue.
That's more of a relational thing, not like a moral thing.
I just think it's stupid for people to care about Russia.
So it's an interesting template of projection in the sense that the way that the left interprets this indictment, both just in the kind of like post it coming out on Twitter and media, but even just that like the Biden DOJ would pursue it so heavily because I think it's so normalized to them.
They're like, oh, well, they took money from this entity.
So obviously, Ergo, they're now influencing the policy outputs, the media outputs, because it's a reflection of the way their media apparatus works, right?
They're like, you know, money comes in from this foreign government, money comes in from this company, money comes in from this source, and then it influences what we say in the black box of, you know, the production meeting.
And then here's what we're saying on late night TV.
Like there's no, it's very rare that you hear, I think, a nuanced discussion of what actually taking Russian money would look like, right?
Because like you said, there is a distinction.
If Russia just organically is like, oh, we like the content you're putting up.
Okay, you're allowed to do that.
Make sure you register with Farah.
Although, I guess if you're Hunter Biden, you don't have to register with Farah.
Unless you're just a media company, I don't think you have to register unless they're like, unless you're working on behalf of the government.
But if you're getting a grant from state-sponsored media or something, or someone who's Russian who's a backer, I don't think you have to declare that.
And also, like, if there's such an issue with foreign governments pumping money into the media apparatus or ecosystems of other countries, then I think we need to defund Voice of America.
I was just really getting kind of nervous here for a second because just thinking about Bannon being in jail, the amount of people in my inner circle that are either actively under investigation by the FBI.
I just want to say, because literally we're one, like, I know you're just watching at home and you're just chilling out, and this is like a small show.
And, you know, and it's like, so I don't know why, but everyone knows I'm under active investigation from the FBI too.
So just so you know, for a wiretapping, still, I don't know why they still have me under investigation.
They don't want you to be able to have, they want that self-censorship of like being able to actually have nuanced conversations.
Because if you actually ask the question of like what taking Russian money means in context of all the equivalent sins that they have committed, it's just something that you don't, I think, hear a lot.
We always accept their framing and their narrative that it's bad.
Now, I'm not saying it's good, but just like we don't accept their framing that diversity is inherently good.
You can't, if you're, if you yourself, if the United States government is doing what they accuse Russia of doing in every country abroad and that same regime, their kind of media cronies are also on the both sides of the trade, then they're cherry-picking what they want to be upset about.
I did a lot of reporting on the Hunter Biden hard drive.
So by extension, my background in Chinese Communist Party infiltration, I work for Steve Bannon.
So we were sanctioned on the first day of the Biden regime for our work on China.
But I just think that to me, China is probably the most poignant example of the hypocrisy when it comes to pointing out the Russian disinformation stuff.
Not that I don't think other countries do it too, Israel, cutters, the Saudis, you name it.
But I think that the China case is particularly applicable to this context because what we're talking about is the selective politicization of one country just because right now it's on the like enemy number one hit list of our global elite or our kind of Atlanticist faction here in the United States out of course being Russia.
But under the Trump administration, they went after people with ties to the Chinese Communist Party, which I think is a lot more valid.
I think they're definitely more of a threat than Russia is.
But I just think it kind of shows you the kind of temporal nature of how you can kind of astroturf certain countries to be these threats.
But when you take a step back, you then, the conclusion there is that, well, there's nothing actually inherently bad about taking money from other countries if you're not deceptive about it.
Because the United States government is on the other end of that trade too.
And all the media outlets who are now running with this story, you know, they're having to toss to break to multinational corporations that pay them amounts of money way higher than $10 million per day to do their bidding in commercial segments.
Yeah, I don't think people realize like my old show, I mean, I've had, I'm a little retard and my shows have had seven-figure budgets.
And, you know, the stuff that I work on now, you know, operates, some of the companies I work on operate in seven-figure budgets, you know, per month, right?
So, you know, this stuff is not uncommon for little shows.
It's a very small show.
You know, when you're talking about Fox News, they operate on what, $1.2 billion a year.
So, you know, when you get up at that level, you're not in the billions.
And smaller, a lot of these companies are unprofitable, by the way.
They are all funded by billionaires.
I know Blaze, you know, I don't work there anymore, but I know that they were bought by like a billionaire family recently.
So they're like privately owned too, from my understanding.
Again, allegedly.
I'll just leave allegedly.
So this is not uncommon, right?
For billionaires and people to sort of buy things.
I know Daily Wire started with a billionaire funding and coming in with a bias.
Breitbart was started in Israel with Israeli money.
And I probably shouldn't say any more because I'll probably NDAs probably get fucked.
But one day maybe I'll share it.
There's a lot of money, a lot of money, and you're told to not say a lot of things about a couple countries, but you can demonize Russia.
And I always tell people famously, the editors at my old network, they wouldn't air my episode when the Ukraine war started talking to a historian at the National Policy Institute because it said that, you know, the U.S. sort of provoked the war and they were mad.
And, you know, my own network called me a Putin apologist and I got reprimanded, called in the office.
And that was one of many reasons why they did not like me.
But I will say, you know, I'm not an apologist.
I just want to find the truth.
Now, we're going to do the rest of the show over on Rumble and censored only, but I want to remind you guys, if you're watching this, don't forget to join censored.tv.
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This is like a very, well, yeah, I think I was, you know, what originally happened, I was supposed to be on, have a radio show, but then they said I was too good looking for the radio.
No, I'm just kidding.
They said that my voice was a little too tinny, which that's an understatement for the radio.
So they gave me a radio type show.
Well, I invented one, and then the people I work with nuked it.
That was unfortunate.
I won't go down that road.
But that's what we want to start here.
Like, my ultimate goal for this show is, that's why I have it set up.
I'm going to try to get it permanently to have like four or five people to sort of become like a, maybe like a more based version of Tim Cast.
Like, I kind of want to turn the show into that.
So I want to get like the funding up and stuff so I can kind of have like regular contributors on that are just maybe from the area.
Like, even if they're just like once or twice a week, but every week, and you know, they're like a country that's like into funding that.
I don't remember.
Yeah, I was like, I was like, we might need to find Russia.
Anyone in Tenet need a job?
So, so, kind of talking about this, we're talking about the issue going on here.
I want to talk about Tucker Carlson.
Some interesting stuff about that.
So, Tucker Carlson had a guy come on his show.
Do we even have anything on that in here?
Let me see.
I guess we really don't.
But it's really remarkable to me because Tucker's a prison.
Get that off.
Tucker Carlson had a historian that said that, you know, Churchill was not actually the good guy in World War II.
Okay.
He didn't say Hitler was good, which is a key factor.
He was essentially just saying that there was nobody perfect.
Let's not forget the fact that, you know, Churchill put a bunch of Germans in open-air prisons.
I don't know if people know this.
Like 4 million also killed like 4 million Indians.
He sort of starved them out in a genocide, which is why I like him.
No, I'm kidding.
But he killed a bunch of Indians.
There's the Dresden bombings.
You know that Churchill kind of provoked World War II.
Not necessarily provoked it.
You know that he was involved allegedly in the assassination of a very famous general, which I won't say their name so I don't get sued by the family.
But essentially, we know that this general, some of the generals also said that the good guys, we might have fought on the wrong side of the war.
This is all very unfortunate historical stuff because in the boomer mind, I don't know if you know about this, World War II is religious and it's sacred.
And if you question Band of Brothers, if you question a Steven Spielberg production on the war, you're essentially seen as an anti-American traitor.
All of American history, as I've always said, comes down to we had the revolution and then we tried to free blacks and then the Holocaust happened and then now we're here.
And that's basically what they want you to think and how they want you to decipher.
So he had a historian on who essentially said, All he said was, you know, there's such a religious adherence on the right to this narrative about World War II that's so black and white.
It's, and I call it a Marvel archetype that people view history in black and whites, you know, rather than the complexity of what's really happening.
It's an easy way to cope and it's an easy way to be controlled.
If you can get people to believe they're on the good team, then you can kind of like do the blue no-matter who mindset, right?
Where, you know, it's just, we're so loyal to the party that we don't even care if our leader is a real leader.
We're just going to do whatever the fuck we want.
And like, I cannot help but think that this narrative that they are pushing, he questioned it.
He goes, yeah, this is a real problem.
We have this terrible idea that we were a good person.
And so now for the next 70 years, we can do whatever the fuck we want.
Nobody cares.
Nobody's questioning the truth.
Nobody questions who's in power.
We don't know who took control of our country post-World War II.
And yet we just sit here blindly letting them do whatever the fuck they want.
And if you question the past and you try to figure this out, people call you what?
They say you're anti-Semitic, that you're a terrible person.
Now the whole right, the establishment right, including Babylon B, a lot of these conning people are now trying to cancel Tucker Carlson.
And you know, this is fucked.
I just don't get your opinion on this.
Why the fuck are you trying to cancel Tucker Carlson for having a guest on that said something true just because you don't like it?
Are we really as bad as the left?
Or is the establishment here as bad as the left that we are doing the exact same thing that they do to us?
Yes, because I think at the heart of that kind of left-wing critique of right-wing media, I know firsthand when War Room was called the number one spreader of misinformation by the New York Times, and I spent hours on the phone with a journalist who did that story.
And he kept bringing up these like one-off guests that we had on who said something, maybe a little outre, a little, you know, unexpected.
And I sort of made the point, I was like, MSNBC has crazy guests on all the time.
That doesn't mean I'm co-signing on what they're saying.
Like it's just sort of an interesting critique of my show that I have to own, hook, line, and sinker everything that every guest says.
Now, maybe I agree with them, maybe I don't.
But I think that just from like an ideological perspective in terms of the way you internalize media, I think it is very left-wing in its construct to want to go after Tucker.
And also, too, I mean, Tucker platformed.
I also think that's like my favorite like lie of the left, this like narrative that, you know, by having someone on your show, it's normalizing them or it's giving them a platform.
It's like, no, this guy has his own platform.
That's like a bullshit narrative to begin with.
But I think people always melt down about Tucker like having on some guest.
And it's just from just from an emotional perspective, I couldn't imagine caring that much about who Tucker Carlson has on his show.
And if he has someone on that I disagree with, okay, it's someone I disagree with.
And by the way, if you watch the episode, what's his Daryl?
He doesn't even present him.
I thought he was kind of a quirky oddball guy.
Like he doesn't even really present himself as this like hyper-authoritative figure.
He literally is like, I'm dumber than you.
I'm dumber than most people in the media.
I just have worked really hard and have read a lot of books and like have done my own due diligence, done my own research.
He's not like, I'm right, right.
Like he just raises questions.
But I think there's sort of a tacit admission within that that just even asking those questions is so controversial, right?
Like, it's not like he went on there and was like doing like, you know, some like alt-right, like, you know, kind of minstrel show of like, and here's the slide about the Holocaust chamber, which is what I'm hoping for.
You can't miss an opportunity to slam someone and call them a Nazi.
And this is why I hate both sides.
Because like this guy said here, you know, it's like with Churchill.
Remember that it's the Rein Weisenlager where Eisenhower imprisoned Germans in open fields with no shelter and denied access to Red Cross while starving them to death before he had Patton assassinated in December 1945.
Maybe it wasn't about Churchill.
We're talking about Eisenhower.
I don't even know what he was talking about.
Okay, actually, I'm like a total retarded faggot right now.
But look, I wasn't even picking up on the drama.
All I knew is that a bunch of like Zionists and conning grifters that are wealthy and are established were trying to cancel Tucker.
I don't remember who the fuck he was even talking about.
This is not irrelevant.
We don't even know who he was talking about.
All I know is they were questioning World War II narratives.
And the ironic part was they were saying it's so religious that when you question it, you get labeled anti-American, anti-Semitic, anti-this, anti-that.
And it's like, that's a very disingenuous position.
And what's really crazy is, is I want to bring up this tweet here.
I just think it's stupid, you know, to bring up some of this bullshit.
Listen to this.
So Dan Domek, right?
This is what I bring up.
He put this up.
Yeah, get fucked, Tucker, and your dream big anti-Semite bestie, Daryl.
Okay, this has 1.8 million views, 6,000 likes.
I don't know if I said this on the comment here.
Isn't your wife that?
That's so good.
But I brought this up.
You know, they post clips from Hollywood movies as their way to disprove Tucker Carlson's curiosity.
This is how they think, though.
No joke.
When they recall history, they imagine scenes from Hollywood productions.
That's the power of film, and that's why they make inaccurate historical films.
So I'm not going to go down a huge rabbit hole here.
You know, I think Nick Fuentes is on, you know, probably, you know, now or a little bit later, if you want to talk probably down further down this rabbit hole right now.
But what I'm talking about here is I actually commend these people for controlling Hollywood and these establishment buffoons here because controlling the institutions is what's given them control of the country.
Because when you can create an alternate reality, people think in movies now, everyone thinks they're a movie star.
I just brought this up that the narratives around World War II seem to be strongly associated with movies.
And I'll point out another example.
I think it's strange, and it just proves the guy's point that people are so religiously associated with these narratives that, yeah, if you talk about this, all these people get mad at you when you're an anti-Semite, you're anti-American, like I mentioned.
But I feel like that proves the point.
It's like Canis Owens or whatever.
She says, by the way, if you talk about certain groups of people, they'll try to cancel you.
She talks about them and they try to cancel her.
I don't think it helps people's point to disprove something when they do exactly what the person's saying.
Do you agree that this happens constantly in media?
Someone says something and then people try to disprove it by fulfilling the exact stereotype.
And I just, I go back to maybe free speech absolutist is a boomer way to put it, but I just, maybe it's because of my age, but I always just view things through the lens of like, you know, conservative speakers on a college campus.
It's like, if your ideas are so, like, put it this way, when you and I like have a story or have some rant or some riff that we want to go on, like, I love nothing more than walking, you know, I'm sure you know the whatever podcast.
Like, walking into the whatever podcast, knowing that I'm about to debate a bunch of like OnlyFans hoes about why what they're doing is wrong and why feminism sucks because I know I have the facts on my side.
And it's just an interesting psychological response, I think, when you're confronted with a viewpoint that you disagree with to immediately run to try and start censoring it and attacking it ad hominem.
Because the only time that I've ever wanted to do that is when it's an argument that I know I can't beat because like they have the facts on their side.
And I just think even taking the politics out of it, even taking the like heated, you know, Israel, Holoska, all that stuff out of it, like it's just an interesting like crowd response, kind of collective identity response to be like, oh, well, this is beyond the pale.
Like we can't, we can't touch this.
I would say if it were something that I were so personally offended by, like I would want to have that guy, that historian, like on my show the next day.
Like, for example, some MSNBC, this Indian gentleman went on the show like a month ago and was like, white people, they need to vote for Kamala Harris.
They need to get used to working for a black woman.
And I was like so enraged by him saying that.
That's preposterous.
So do you know what I did?
I invited him on War Room.
I was like, come on, come on, come on.
I wasn't like, this guy should be kicked off MSNBC.
I was like, MSNBC should give this guy airtime 24-7 and he should do rounds on conservative media.
Right.
And it's just an interesting thing to like cower from a narrative, not even that they're saying, oh, this narrative is untrue.
A narrative that's like, this is so untrue.
This is crazy.
This is okay.
Then have him on your show.
You should be thanking Tucker for like exposing him as a clown and a buffoon.
So it's just, I don't, I don't think they, they, and I don't even know who the they is when I'm saying that, but like, I do, but yeah, but I have a guess, but yeah, I have an educated guess.
And I'm like, I'm like, but like, I could only imagine like sitting in a classroom there and like raising your hand when you're like getting taught about World War II, just like asking a question, like, oh, like, so what if like Churchill was the bad guy?
Those are like the same people who also be like, we should have a nuanced discussion about tearing down Confederate statues because they actually are representative of America's racist past.
And, you know, maybe it is good to tear them down.
You would think, too, that like all the Trump indictment stuff would make these people see how nuanced this idea of like good v bad, villain v. hero is.
Because if, you know, the creepy groomer teachers were to be writing the history textbooks now, they would be depicting Trump, like, you know, literally Hitler and, you know, Clinton and Biden and Kamala as the Churchill equivalent, right?
And I just think it's so funny how these people can't like wise up and see the subjectivity of history and how it never has been black and white.
Because if it were, then these people like shouldn't support Trump because the mainstream voices are saying that he's literally Hitler.
And that's bad.
And you're supporting literally, I mean, these people don't support Trump in a meaningful way.
But it's just, it's an interesting, there's nuance.
Just like we were having nuance in our discussion about the, you know, Russian disinformation agents.
They don't like nuance.
They just like Russia bad, you know, Ukraine good, foreign interference bad, but, you know, big pharma plowing billions of dollars good.
Like, okay, if you want to go down the dichotomy rabbit hole, knock yourself out.
But I think it's, it's not conducive to actual discourse.
But I think it's probably easier for elites to kind of have a stranglehold over conversations, right?
When it is so simplified and reductive to good, bad, because it's how you like whip up sentiment.
Reminds me like women shouldn't be involved in politics mostly.
I agree.
Because like you, you see, it's such a woman thing.
Like if there's no good in evil, then there is no story.
This woman's like thinking she's a character in a show or something.
It's like, no, it's not that simple.
And whenever you say this, I'm just like, so you're saying Hitler was good?
It's like, well, I'm saying that not everything Hitler did was evil and not all of his ideas were evil.
Clearly, he cared about Germany.
I read Mein Kampf.
It's not a giant book against Jews, as I thought it was, by the way.
I read Mein Kampf.
And this is a very, this is a guy who grew up with a tough upbringing, right?
He grew up with a tough world.
He grew up in a poor family, kind of.
Not really, I guess, but, you know, it's like he grew up around a lot of distrust, saw what was going on in society, and he wanted to fix it.
Do I think that all of his methods to try to fix his society were correct?
I don't know all his methods.
Do I think that he didn't commit crimes against humanity or, you know, do things?
I think everyone involved in that war did.
So I think that's, I'm not justifying, you know, his decisions.
And did Jews die in World War II?
Of course they did.
80 million plus people died in World War II.
It's a terrible, terrible time in history.
People were starved all around from India to Europe to North Africa.
I mean, this is a very terrible and bloody war.
So I'm not diminishing the seriousness of the time period anyways.
I just think to look at the world through such a stupid binary makes you susceptible to be controlled.
Because then, like I said, if you think you're the good guys, then you don't realize maybe you were actually the villain.
And if you're the villain, then not only does that break your worldview, but it causes a lot of problems.
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All right.
I want to talk about a couple of things.
I know we're going to wrap it up.
We'll talk about one last thing and then we'll get to quotes.
Are you cool with that?
One last thing and then get to the super chats.
I know you've been talking all day.
It's been crazy.
But I wanted to talk about the migrant crisis in New York City.
This is one last article.
Here, the insanity.
So the New York Post released this.
Today's cover, migrants flooding New York City's justice system, making up 75% of 75% of arrests in Midtown as pathetic sanctuary city laws handcuff cops.
So apparently three out of four arrested in Midtown is migrant crime.
That means 75% of police resources are being used to police illegal aliens.
These are non-taxpaying illegal aliens that are getting tax dollars, are being shipped with tax dollars.
It's a mess.
I know this is no shock to you, but you know, if we had just kept America white, none of this would have happened.
And I don't mean that in like a reductive, you know, modern, like, you know, someone takes me out of context, like, oh, are you preaching white supremacy?
No.
I mean, if we had kept American immigration policy before 1965 the way that it was, our cities were clean, our places were organized, and we didn't have all this flood of immigration that then divided and caused grievance politics, which then divided the ethos and began the crime sprees in New York and across the country.
You know, we always had crime.
We had mafias, right?
There's been the Italian mafia.
There's been the Jewish mafia.
We've had other sub, you know, sub-mafias.
There has been black gangs and white gangs.
This is not like new.
Crime did not exist.
And of course, sometimes crime took different forms.
But the idea of having illegals in our country is what I call avoidable crime, right?
The idea that the ATF goes after a white guy, you know, for selling a sought-off shotgun to an agent, Ruby Ridge here.
But, you know, black people are in Chicago uploading every day, you know, illegal arms that they're carrying, uploading it, huffing on Galaxy Gas, and these people rarely ever get intercepted.
My whole point is that our law enforcement is already, you know, very misdirected.
They don't want to stop and frisk people because they don't want to seem racist.
They don't want to do what works.
So now we already have that problem of crime and the issues spiking in our nation.
Now we have millions of illegals coming in.
And unfortunately, I'm finding out today, I'm just getting information.
And criminality wouldn't be surging if we didn't have the subsequent blueing of America by importing all these voters to support the policies that sort of have this soft on crime approach.
Yeah.
You know, metastasizing the Black Lives Matter-esque groups of the world who then crack down on cops and make it hard for them to do their job.
So there's a lot of compounding variables, I think, on the net negative side of immigration.
But I think it's important here to always emphasize because I feel like whenever we talk about immigration, people, you get the trope of the like illegal alien, but it's like legal immigration is a very large issue too.
The National Academy of Sciences came out just yesterday advocating for more green cards for and wanting to end all country caps.
So that means limitless numbers of Chinese and Indians, so even that kind of side of immigration too, to come into this country to do scientific research.
So no, thank you.
I'll pass on that too.
But I also think too, sort of what we were talking about before, like the good guy, bad guy kind of juxtaposition.
Don't get me wrong, these migrants they committed crimes by entering the United States, but they're also sort of just the, you know, I was trying to, I've been broadcasting for too long now.
No, the, you know, chess piece and sort of the chessboard of the elites, right?
Where they use immigration as sort of a weapon of mass migration, not just for I think demographic shifts and shifting electorates, but I also kind of think they honestly get off in like a sadistic way of destroying American cities.
I think they, the most coveted scalp that they have is like turning Texas blue, but I think they love criminality in New York and Los Angeles and all these cities because it kind of gives them the pretext to, I think, like eventually impose martial law, but just sort of crack down.
Like it was New York that not too long ago, they were sending out drones and getting ready to deploy the National Guard and like Midtown Manhattan, right?
Like, what's the downside of increased criminality in America's cities for our ruling class?
They're not affected by it.
It just allows them to amass more power.
And it doesn't really, at the end of the day, it doesn't affect their bottom line.
Like, it just kind of hollows out those cities, like real estate-wise, they're still doing fine.
So I just, I think I get maybe it's just because I do too much war room, but so much of the immigration debate I think is so reductive, right?
It's like, oh, illegal immigration bad, like it's destroying America.
It's like, yeah, but it's intentional.
And they don't think that there's anything about America that's worth saving.
They don't think there's anything that's unique about being American.
So they think that just because you cross the southern border, you can now become an American.
It doesn't work like that.
But I think that they've sort of taken this like sick relishing in the downside, what they would spin as upsides of illegal immigration.
They like watching this country go to shit, whether it's managed decline, which I think you see most poignantly when it comes to our trade policies, our fiscal policies, our kind of exportation of foreign crises and foreign wars abroad.
But I think the accelerated decline that you see at home is really hits home when you see mass migration.
And I think it's just a sick kind of fetish that they have that is the great replacement.
And then they like to laugh at people like me and you who dare to say, oh, it's, it's, uh, it's actually kind of racist.
You guys kind of hate white people and you want to replace us.
And they're like, oh, you just went there.
You just said that.
We're going to strip you of your livelihood and like tell you and all your friends and your family that you're a sick racist and we're going to like kick you off network television because you dared to speak out about it.
Like, I just think it, they're so evil.
And I really do think the trope of these elites like laughing at their houses.
Oh, ha ha ha, these Americans have to like go on their commute to work and sit next to like, you know, Honduran rapists on the subway.
No, but no, but meaning I like, I kind of like hate myself a lot of times.
You know, I think if you're a guy and you don't, then you're probably a fucking narcissist.
Like, I think, especially as guys, like girls, I think, think of themselves as more.
They're always like, I'm a 10.
I mean, you know, on the whatever podcast.
I'm a 10.
It's like, bitch, you ate 10 meals.
Ask how many meals you ate today.
I asked how hot you are.
But, you know, I think guys are usually like, I'm a fucking piece of shit.
I hate myself.
Whatever.
You know, I could be stronger.
I could make more money.
And I think there's a sort of like, you know, and that's dangerous, right?
And a lot of guys suffer with depression and whatnot.
I saw that, you know, between the 1970s and today, about 10% of high schoolers, you know, said that they experienced a depressive episode.
And now it's over 90% of high schoolers have suffered.
And we talked about on my Instagram that a new study showed that processed foods are one of the leading causes to depression, anxiety disorders, and hormone imbalances, which are leading to unhealthy appetites, craving for high caloric, low density food.
Correct.
It's in the balls.
It's in the scrotum.
The guys, it's in your testes and it's lowering your testosterone.
You know, this is some, I don't want to get in the science of gonads, but you don't want plastic in there.
We can tell you that.
It's not good.
Yeah.
We don't want anyone swimming in plastic.
Not the fish, not the boys, not the little boys.
You got to make those babies.
But in retrospect, it is remarkable as we talk about this that these people are killing us and hurting us from every single angle.
And they're destroying the minds of people.
And this cannot be unintentional because when you look at how much the food is poisoning us, the things that were marketed are killing us.
The drugs that they're giving us are hurting us.
The healthcare system is killing us, right?
Medical malpractice is one of the main causes of death.
Then when you add in diet and sedentary lifestyles, our school system is rigged to keep boys from expressing their masculinity.
Then we have the Me Too movement, which is trying to make men afraid of what?
Passing on women.
Now, 24% of men under 25 have never approached a woman.
I don't know if you saw it.
They've never approached a woman.
A quarter of guys.
And the number one thing they say is they're afraid of being Me Too'd.
Because guys used to hit on girls.
You would try to make a move.
Before, if you made a move and a girl didn't like it, or you did something sexual, girl didn't like.
I mean, there's a difference between being an Indian rape gang and like pinning a chick down and raping her, which is like, please don't care about that, by the way.
You can do that in the UK.
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But now he doesn't say that's culturally like acceptable.
But then now a young guy's like, he's like, if he tries to kiss you or he puts, like, there was an autistic guy who like put his arm around a girl and tried to kiss her in high school and she's suing him for sexual assault, right?
So you're creating a culture that's fighting men wanting to approach women.
Then you're telling women that they don't shouldn't have kids and that they shouldn't be married.
And you look at it all together.
And my opinion is there's no fucking way that this is an accident.
It is an orchestrated destruction of the society, of the family, and of the individual.
It divides the sexes.
And I'm saying from a biological chemical warfare all the way up to an inter, sounds really crazy, interdimensional spiritual battle.
You know, we are living in a hellscape that people think is nice because they have cheap plastic goods conveniently delivered through Amazon to their house every morning, which is pretty fucking awesome, by the way.
But it's also an appearance of life.
Yeah, it's a cope.
But really, if you ask the average person, they're not happy.
They're not doing well.
They're not content.
And I do not believe that God designed us to live this way.
And I do not think that this is some sort of random happening.
I'm not going to say anything you said offer on the show, but you don't, I think there needs to be a healthy conversation on the right about women that are on camera in the fact that it's not a sin and it's not a wrong thing for a woman to be attractive.
And I don't think if you're an attractive woman, you should feel ashamed because there's, you know, the simps gooning out there or whatever to you.
Men will sexualize women regardless of whether they're sexual because men have a sexual mindset.
And I think that that's probably a very difficult thing if you're young or you're attractive or whatever, because you can go a few routes on the internet.
You can be a Trump boob girl, right?
But we'll just leave it at that, which is like people subscribe for your boobs and you're pro-Trump and you, you know, but it's a thing, right?
And you like kind of pretend to be a commentator, but you're just showing your body.
And then there's the like, you know, the people that say nigga and faggot and like gay and retarded, you know, like girls that are just like, they say faggot and everyone's like, whoa, fuck, that's so cool.
I'm sorry I'm being crass because you're a lady, but this is just how the boys talk.
I'm sure you're around Bannon enough.
He's a rough guy.
But I'm saying, so it's like that.
But, you know, if you want to come and you want to, you know, if you're educated or whatever and you want to come on and you want to discuss something and you're young and you have energy, I'm sure you know it's difficult because you wear too many clothes.
People are thinking you're trying to, you know, cover up.
You wear too little clothes.
People think you're trying to show off.
And I feel like, you know, my whole result is women should stay out of politics.
No, but, but I, I'm joking, but I'm sure that's a hard thing.
Yeah, but I know it's probably an interesting thing because just being a girl in politics, you're going to get people who are just watching to simp over you.
So, and I think you're one of the only girls that thinks about real ideas.
That you don't have a lot of simps.
You don't think people watch the war room.
You think they think that you're equally cognitively competing with Steve Bannon, which is true, but do you think I'm not patronizing you?
So I was never put on shows because of how I look.
Now, I'm sure if you look at old clips, you'll be like, you look the same.
But I really was put on shows because I was breaking stories that members of Congress were sharing.
Like I was doing actual work.
And honestly, my, my parents really instilled in me.
Like, they're very square and weird.
I love them.
But like, they were like, there are always going to be girls who are better looking than you.
There are always going to be girls who are worse looking than you.
And for me, as someone who like really seeks validation, which is bad, but I was like, if I attach my self-worth to how I look, I know that that goes because as a woman, you're not always going to look like this.
And I think that that's something that like I had had drilled into me, honestly, by being around men all the time.
All the jokes about like hitting the wall was something that honestly really resonated with me.
And I realized that making my career off of how I look, like there's nothing, it stops eventually.
So I was like, I would much rather really, and honestly, like, if I wanted to go down the route of like how I look, like I would dress differently.
And don't get me wrong.
I post stuff that like I'm sure most people are like.
Like, you know, like I, I, I was actually on the phone with someone, one of our mutual friends probably, and he was like, you're like a serious person with e-girl tendencies.
Yeah, because it's also a little bit, the off-putting is not the right word.
It is confusing because I think what one person said, and I was laughing, they were like, oh, Natalie, is she the girl that you would think might be just a Fox bimbo and then she actually has good things to say?
And you're like, oh, shit.
I was confused about women in politics.
I think another girl who's like that is Kayleigh McEnany.
Like, she's actually pretty well informed and intelligent.
And you would think, oh, Fox just, you know, has her on.
If you were new, you'd be like, oh, she has her and she's like a dumb blonde or something.
But then you realize she was actually press secretary for Trump and whatnot.
She was an incredible press secretary and she had everything down.
And she was probably one of the most thorough press secretaries ever.
And, you know, so it's not always the case.
But it's like, for me, I'm kind of like serious topic with gay and retarded tendencies.
You know, like that's what the show is gay and retarded.
I've always said that.
And it's, we try to keep it lighthearted, but I don't think there's anything wrong.
I think it's also weird when I think it's also weird when women try too hard to be tape.
They don't lean into their femininity.
And a good example of this are why professors are always ugly.
They always cut their hair short and they look like lesbians because they're trying to get people like they're trying too hard to overcompensate for being a woman.
So they're like, well, if I make myself intentionally ugly, because that's what I'm going to say, the whole point of this comment is like, if you're young and attractive, which I would know, this is why I got a show.
It's called Young and Attractive.
I'll speak to myself.
No, but like, obviously as a guy, you know, politics is Hollywood for ugly people.
Because Hollywood is the danger of it, like from my limited exposure to all this.
Like, two points.
To what you just said.
I'm a very self-deprecating person.
And I try to, like, I never want to give off girl boss energy at all.
Like, I think that's so cringe.
But that's like a kind of back and forth that I have with a lot of the people that I work with, not Steve, but just more on like the network and like production side.
They're like, you need to like own it and embrace it and realize that you're 23 and you're Steve's co-host and you've done so much.
I'm like, if I acted like that and came into the studio every day and had some like bitchy girl boss attitude, which I would never, like, you would hate me.
They're like, they're like, as hot as you think that like flight attendant is, like, there's a reason, a reason that she chose a job that made her have to have clothes on and like not a bikini.
And I just feel like, and maybe it's so is this me being self-deprecating, but like, I just think women who get into politics who don't have organic political thought, right?
Like, I really like Pilates.
I don't go out and try to be a Pilates instructor.
I just enjoy it.
So like girl who is like loosely MAGA, but can't really articulate why she's MAGA and doesn't bring anything unique to the conversation.
It's only recently that I've gotten into opinion commentary.
I usually am like an autist just like trying to try to find a Ukrainian Ukraine, like just like on stories that I broke until Steve went to prison and had to do actual opinion commentary.
But it's just the psychology of like girl then makes politics her whole personality when you don't actually know like anything about it and you really want to go on TV and you don't know what you're talking about.
Like it is girls who I hate to say and I don't sound mean because in some ways I'm like nagging myself, but like it's girls who, if they went the traditional route of like trying, like you could never get signed with IMG.
And I've worked, this is why they call me sexist and misogynist because I just worked around women in the industry long enough to realize, number one, they're not really conservative.
You make being a woman like the most important thing about it's like what Ann Coulter always said.
She's like, I never waded into feminism.
I never waded into like making woman issues my thing.
And it's always funny because most people, whenever they see me do shows, like they don't really know my age because most young people who rise up through the ranks, they make their youth a big part of their act, right?
Like the Prague or you person.
I was like, I'm young.
I can speak to Gen Z voters.
I never wanted to do that conservative.
And like, that's just, ugh.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's, it's just very, I, I know I'm sure your audience maybe, maybe thinks I'm semi-performative because I don't talk about certain countries, but like, I just, like I always say, if I really wanted to, it's funny in my personal life, I use the word like, oh, that's so gay all the time, but I don't think I've ever said that on media because I don't want that to get clipped.
But like, if I had to do a job where I felt like it were so fake and G-H-E-Y, like, I just, I wouldn't want to do it.
Like, I would, I could, I could have gone and worked and done anything else.
Like, I do this not because I need to feel hot, but because I actually, like, I do like exposing the Chinese Communist Party.
Like, I'm an autistic teenage dude, like at heart.
Like, I like internet research stuff.
But it makes me very mad, honestly, when I see girls who make their whole like magic.
No, but I know, but I'm saying, like, it is an interesting, it is an interesting discussion, though, only because, you know, to make it as a guy in politics or to have, you know, in anything semi-successful anywhere, you know, in any job, any guy's worked, women do run life on easy mode.
That doesn't mean that their lives aren't hard.
It just means that there's fallbacks.
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There's always, you know, either parents or bigotry of low expectations for women.
And as a man, you know, you've, you've, you, you've really got to play the game.
And for guys like me that don't play the game and call out the bullshit, I didn't realize that I worked with feminists and that everyone I worked with was feminist because everyone said they weren't.
And then I realized, oh, shit, they're all fucking like raging fucking feminists.
And, you know, and they're very, very evil.
A lot of them are very evil people.
And then they don't like me.
So they team up together like feminists, like women, and they're like, let's see if we can ruin this person's life.
I think I present more normal on TV, but I'm like the stories that I tell my girlfriends when they're like, oh, I just said this to a guy.
They're like, why did you say that?
Like, I don't have, like, I know girls don't have game.
Also, I always, I always joke, like, if I were, if I had wanted to, like, sleep my way to the top of some like industry, I wouldn't have chosen like hearted media.
The one that necessitates me doing work and getting canceled and like reading ads for my pillow.
But I also think like that's kind of like with me too.
Like I don't pretend that people watch a show because I'm an intellectual genius.
I don't market myself like that.
I also say that we're not on the Trump train, meaning we don't just cover Trump politics, right?
We talk about a lot of things, culture, whatever's going on.
So we have a consistent base.
Just people know the show changed to 7 p.m. on Monday, Wednesdays.
And right now it's at 10.30 on Fridays, but it might even be earlier on Fridays now again, too, because it's a lot easier for me to be a better dad and husband by doing it at this time.
But that being said, I started late today because I was having technical issues that we had to solve.
I don't think there's a problem with giving off egirill energy.
And that's what I was going to say is I don't like the side of the right.
Like someone commented in here, like, don't platform women because you're enabling feminists.
You at 23, unless you were preaching a feminist message, I don't think even with the average age women get married, even if I disagree that they're getting married late, I don't imagine that you're opposed to getting married.
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I would get married if I met the right person, but I haven't met the right person.
Yeah, before women have kids and after, and also I don't think it's a traditional job.
So I would be more opposed to a woman like you working in retail than doing this only if you were raised by good parents and you weren't seeking public validation, even though that's a little bit impossible as a woman because you always will.
But a lot of girls get into this because they're too ugly for OnlyFans and they're not pretty enough to be in Hollywood or talented.
My wife's about to give birth to our second, and there's going to be about six to eight weeks there where I will be an incel thanks to the healing process of the human body taking slower than a husband would prefer.
But on the flip side, it's like when you talk about this stuff, I'm not on that because it's more like, I just don't want to listen to bimbos.
So unironically, you can probably even see, it looks like patchiness, but there's a scar here because when I got beat up in Philadelphia by Black Lives Matter, apparently, because I didn't go to a doctor.
And so not only do I have paralysis on the left side of my face and no nerves, but something happened with my teeth getting broken and then some root got issue.
There was an issue.
So I had necrotic flesh.
And then my and then my chin fell off.
Like my skin detached from the bone or like the tendons.
And so I had to have reconstructive surgery and remove all the necrotic flesh and they reattached my neck and everything.
And I'm not trying to be mean, but it's like, you look like you're 45 lecturing me about microplastics, but you look like a goblin from like plastics in your tits.
I go, like, and these are good shows too, by the way, people run.
I'm just going tone deaf.
I don't want this.
This is what I said about women involved in things.
It's like you're lecturing.
You don't see me lecturing people about my podcasts are not about how to be the healthiest person.
We do talk a little bit about health.
We'll be honest about it.
The importance to go to the gym to eat healthy.
I mean, I'm not particularly the most ripped, you know, in-shape guy.
I'm not fat or anything like that.
I still, you know, I still watch what I eat.
But I'm not going to go around and be like, you know, you need to sleep eight hours a night because I don't.
And I don't tell people things that I'm not doing.
And I don't pretend to be something I'm not.
But a lot of these women, they're putting on an act and they're trying to just say what's like you hear them.
And this is what I was going to say is that a lot of times women get into politics, they start shows and stuff, or they get these things and they burn out because it's not coming from their heart.
Yes, there's like a whole, I mean, so many of the women that you see on left-wing media now, like they all started out in right-wing media, work for George Bush.
Like, and then, like you said, it's not, again, this is like psychoanalysis, but I don't really think they actually believe it.
It's not that I think they believed the left stuff all along.
I just, it's like the Olivia Troy, who she looks more trans, or there's another word I could use, but I won't.
The Republicans for Harris co-chair, that chick who like worked for Mike Fenstrump.
Like, they're just obsessed with being famous.
And they, like, you think Olivia Troy, imagine Olivia Troy going to Hollywood.
You think she would get cast in anything except like the midgets or the Wizard of Oz or something?
I will never employ those women and I will never work around women like that again because I've made that mistake before being like, oh, I'm going to bring on said hot girls onto my show because they'll offend it.
Well, I'm saying like, but for you, the point was, was that I had listened to you speak and I was like, okay, this is somebody who has something good to say.
So your looks would be negligent in the fact that if you had something good to say, right?
I mean, I'd have Caitlin Collins on, even if it was a transgender, if they had something good to say.
Okay, they're just, they make me feel sick okay, and i've always said that a fat woman is equivalent to not just a poor man but a man who refuses to work.
Okay that's, that's the equivalent.
If you're a man, God gave you strength hands to do work, to actually make money and provide for this world and to create a service.
If you're a lazy ass, motherfucking bitch and you're at home, that's what fat women are okay, and I would make it illegal.
I'm serious, I don't like it.
However, pregnancy, I think my wife's hot pregnant.
I think that's different, that's feminine.
I think that's that's not fat right um, and the boobs get bigger and stuff.
It's always, you know, it's a the blessing in disguise.
But this guy's out there, his wife's fat, their sex life is dead.
They've, they have no physical connection.
Maybe he's slightly religious uh, maybe like more like whatever.
He maybe he's not really looking at porn or, on the flip side, maybe he is looking a lot of porn so he's like kind of like sexualizing every girl that he sees.
He's for sure doing that and that's.
That's an unfortunate reality, because i'm not gonna be able to host this shit, because I I know that people are doing that to me too.
I know what you're doing out there right now.
Get your hands out of your pants and get your mind on Christ.
No, but I look, I don't know how many people are, but yeah, people do that and I know because I read comments on sometimes these people and the last, the Trump, the Trump boob girl that we were talking about before the show that I won't I don't mention any people by name on the show because I don't want to bring people into conversations and get clipped out.
I just don't do that.
But um, the top comment I I went to uh they, they made a statement that they weren't going to like post certain types of pictures anymore.
And I try to make an uplifting comment.
I was like this is a friend of mine so, or like friend, I know, I know this person's a colleague.
I'm like you know hey, do what you know, do what God is leading you to do, do what gives you the clearest conscience before god.
It's the best way to live.
It's just like what gives you a clear conscience before god.
I was just giving like a little encouragement.
I'm not a woman basher, as much as people think that i'm.
