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This Might Cost Trump The ELECTION.. Should We Be Worried? | Guest: Andrew Wilson

In the midst of a wide array of things that conservative commentators are questioning the Trump campaign on, one issue came up recently that ignited a FIRESTORM of debate — Trump’s stance on abortion and how we should go about regulating it on a federal level. And then there’s a whole other cadre who’s not happy over some of Trump’s policy reversals from his 2020 campaign — will Trump be able to survive the onslaught not just from the left, but also from within his own party?Show more Andrew Wilson joins us tonight to talk about all this and more on tonight’s NIGHTLY OFFENSIVE! __ ⇩SUPPORT THE SHOW⇩ ➤ JOIN CENSORED TV: Watch this FULL EPISODE ad free + EXCLUSIVE content at https://censored.tv/ promo code “OFFENSIVE” for 20% - Keep free speech media alive! ➤ JOIN THE PRIVATE LIVE COMMUNITY: https://elijahschaffer.locals.com/ ➤ NOTICER T-SHIRTS / MERCH: https://slightlyoffensive.com/ __ ⇩ SHOW SPONSORS⇩ ➤ RAMP HEALTH: Unlock your calmest and most confident self with the perfect blend of 6 natural, clinically proven ingredients - and start excelling in social situations INSTANTLY with Ramp Health’s B4. Feel like your BEST self for up to 5 hours with just one packet! Properly dosed and expertly formulated by a master biohacker, B4 comes in 6 delicious flavors, and is as easy as mixing into a glass or bottle of water - go to https://ramphealth.co/slightlyoffensive and use promocode OFFENSIVE to get 15% OFF! ➤ THE WELLNESS COMPANY: Be prepared for what is coming next! Order your MEDICAL EMERGENCY KIT ASAP at https://www.twc.health/offensive and enter code OFFENSIVE for 10% off. The Wellness Company and their licensed doctors are medical professionals you can trust, and their medical emergency kits are the gold standard to keeping you safe! Again, that’s https://www.twc.health/offensive, promo code OFFENSIVE. ➤ PARASITE CLEANSE: What if I told you - there is a hostile alien species that controls your appetite, emotions, sleep and focus - destroying your body from the inside out. PURGE SUDDENLY - Remove the parasites today! https://www.purgestore.com/ - Promocode ELIJAH for 10% OFF! ___ ⇩FOLLOW ANDREW WILSON ⇩ ➤ X: https://x.com/paleochristcon ➤ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@The_Crucible ___ ⇩ELIJAH’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/SlightlyOffensive ➤ INSTA: https://www.instagram.com/slightlyoffensive.tv ➤ TELEGRAM https://t.me/SlightlyOffensive ➤ GAB: https://gab.com/elijahschaffer __ ➤BOOKINGS + BUSINESS INQUIRIES: [email protected] __ ⇩EXCELLENT RESOURCES FOR KIDS ⇩ Head to https://bit.ly/teach-freedom for a unique book series that introduces the important ideas that schools no longer teach. Show less

Participants
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andrew wilson
36:13
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elijah schaffer
01:08:52
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kalen dalmeida
09:20
Appearances
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jd vance
01:36
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kristen welker
00:53
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Speaker Time Text
elijah schaffer
Well, this might actually end up costing Trump the election.
Lila Rose tweeted somebody out.
She said, If you don't stand for pro-life principles, you don't get pro-life votes.
And I got to say, congratulations to everybody who is fucking retarded in this country.
If you actually think that you're going to vote your way out of anything, you don't deserve to vote, anyways.
But if you really think your votes matter still, you're also stupid.
And on the third end, it's like, well, if you don't vote, then all you're doing is bringing about the destruction of the system.
And if that's what you want, I'm telling you, if that's what you want, you want the system to be destroyed, then you probably don't have any children and you're probably not married.
Because if you have kids, you're going to fight to the end to make sure this country is great.
But some people are saying this is the end.
No more Trumpio.
My name is Elijah Schaefer, and we're going to be talking about the end of Trumplican support from the conservative base coming from different angles.
We got front shots.
We got Pete Buttigieg back shots.
It's going crazy.
It is approximately 6:27 p.m. Eastern Time in the United States.
We are fashionably late.
I have two guests on that will be introduced in just a couple of minutes.
But anyways, let's go ahead and let's start the show.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
We got a good show for you guys today.
unidentified
I can already see Andrew's just filling the vibes, filling the beat.
andrew wilson
Yeah, I feel like I left you hanging on the dancing there a little bit.
elijah schaffer
You did a little bit.
I want to introduce my guest today.
My first guest here is Andrew Wilson.
Go ahead and tell people who you are, what you do, and reminding them that you get the confetti of color because whenever the show is all white, we have to add a little bit of color in the beginning of the show so he gets the COC.
You know what I mean?
andrew wilson
Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
I'm the host of The Crucible on YouTube.
I'm a political analyst, political satirist.
I'm also a blood sport debater, participate in debates all across the realm, mostly against leftist scumbag progressives, but also essentially anybody I disagree with when it comes to political issues or social issues.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
And then also on my left, we got our guest back here, Kaylin Delmeida, journalist, Turning Point USA.
Go ahead and introduce yourself for people who don't know who you are.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah.
My name's Kaylin Delmeida.
unidentified
All right, that's enough.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Kayla.
kalen dalmeida
Wow, that's incredible.
No, Kaylin Delmeida, I am a frontlines reporter at Turning Point USA.
Back in 2020, I covered all the riots on the ground with this guy here.
Crazy story.
He actually got his legs blown off in 2020, and that's part of my life story.
So, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's actually true.
Anyway, don't forget, guys, that this show is directly supported by Censored TV.
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And then you get this bullshit, which is even better, right?
I mean, you get us, the gentleman.
All right, let's talk about this, boys.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk first about this growing understanding.
There's an issue.
We're going to watch a little video here of JD Vance.
Initial opinion, Andrew, on JD Vance.
I mean, people are mixed.
andrew wilson
He sucks.
There's the opinion.
He sucks.
He was a never Trumper.
He's worthless.
And he never should have been brought in ever in the campaign whatsoever.
Trump should have just been like, you know what?
No vice president.
We're just not going to have a vice president because there's nobody worth anything in the Republican field or one of his kids.
Run with one of his kids.
Anything would be superior to the swamp monsters, especially why would you bring on a never Trumper?
It was a terrible idea.
Nobody likes this guy.
They don't trust him.
He seems like he's a snake oil salesman.
People don't like him.
elijah schaffer
I also kind of, you know, this thing, I kind of think he might be a bit of like an alcoholic because he doesn't just, he's not funny.
andrew wilson
Well, that would make him cool.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Right?
andrew wilson
I mean, that would give him some character.
And the thing is, that's what he's missing.
He's missing character.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we need to get him to get this man some vodka.
You know what I mean?
Get this man some gin.
True, alcoholics built the country.
But I mean, JD Vance is like, is kind of a little bit of like that guy that didn't get invited on the team.
So his mom came and was like, hey, you got to put him on, you know, which is, unfortunately, I'm like kind of telling my own life story here.
But, but, you know, he's one of those guys that was never cool.
He's not anything.
He did make a pretty good movie, though, the Hillbilly Elegy.
I thought that was a pretty nice film, right?
andrew wilson
You know what I think of whenever I see him?
I think of bald guy energy.
kalen dalmeida
Bald guy bald guy.
Explain that.
andrew wilson
Bald guy energy.
Just like just a constant, or you can say short, it's not really short because bald guy energy, where you're just constantly trying to overcome and overcompensate for some perceived thing that you think you don't have.
And I don't know exactly what that is, but he doesn't have whatever that thing is.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he definitely doesn't have it.
I mean, but your thoughts, I mean, because we're going to watch this video, I mean, do you have, are you allowed to have an opinion at Turning Point on political candidates?
Maybe not, huh?
kalen dalmeida
I'm on vacation, but yeah, I mean, if anybody wants to DM me my political positions, you definitely, you can ask me.
But he just says dick pics, though.
elijah schaffer
It's kind of unfortunate.
It's what he calls his dick.
It's his political position.
He warned you, all right?
unidentified
Make sure.
elijah schaffer
All right.
We're going to watch this because essentially he came out.
This is the controversy.
It is kind of controversial.
I was laughing before the show.
You know, like killing kids is a little bit of a sensitive topic to some people.
Yeah, it's a little sensitive.
But, you know, they said that they're going to be backing abortions.
They're going to leave it up to states to listen to this.
kristen welker
Let's talk about another big question.
unidentified
I don't think we're coming in through the it's being talked about on the campaign trail.
kristen welker
Abortion.
Democrats made the case this week and beyond this week that Donald Trump, if elected, will impose a federal ban on abortion if he wins.
Now, Donald Trump says he won't.
But can you commit, Senator, sitting right here with me today, that if you and Donald Trump are elected, that you will not impose a federal ban on abortion?
jd vance
I can absolutely commit that, Kristen.
Donald Trump has been as clear about that as possible.
I think it's important to step back and say, what has Donald Trump actually said on the abortion question and how is it different from what Kamala Harris and the Democrats have said?
Donald Trump wants to end this culture war over this particular topic.
If California wants to have a different abortion policy from Ohio, then Ohio has to respect California and California has to respect Ohio.
Donald Trump's view is that we want the individual states and their individual cultures and their unique political sensibilities to make these decisions because we don't want to have a nonstop federal conflict over this issue.
The federal government ought to be focused on getting food prices down, getting housing prices down.
Issues, of course, where Kamala Harris has been a total disaster.
So I think Donald Trump is right.
We want the federal government to focus on these big economic and immigration questions.
Let the states figure out their own abortion policy.
kristen welker
Well, let me just follow up with you a little bit on that point because I've been talking to Republicans, including Senator Lindsey Graham, just last week, who've made it very clear that if Donald Trump is elected, if you are elected, they will continue to press this point.
Senator Graham said to me, I'm going to keep saying that there should be a federal ban.
If such a piece of legislation landed on Donald Trump's desk, would he veto it?
jd vance
I think it'd be very clear he would not support it.
I mean, he said that explicitly.
Yeah, I mean, if you're not supporting it as the president of the United States, you fundamentally have to.
kristen welker
He would veto a federal abortion ban.
jd vance
I think he would.
He said that explicitly that he would.
kristen welker
I don't think he's ever said explicitly he would.
He said that to you.
jd vance
Lindsey Graham, Kristen, I would be surprised.
I mean, again, I need to see the context on what Lindsey Graham said because Lindsey Graham himself has not advocated a federal abortion ban.
Lindsey Graham has advocated a federal minimum standard.
Now, to be clear, that is not Donald Trump's view.
Donald Trump disagrees with Lindsey Graham on this, but no Republican, at least no Republican with any reasonable power, is saying that we should have a complete national abortion ban.
I haven't heard that from any of my colleagues.
And to be clear, Donald Trump, I think, has staked his position and made it very explicit.
He wants this to be a state decision.
States are going to make this determination themselves.
elijah schaffer
All right, taking this on its head here, like not even explaining how bad the Republican Party's gotten, but the idea that he just said here that not only would Donald Trump veto a federal ban, but they support states deciding when you can kill your kid.
And he also doesn't know any Republicans who are trying to ban abortion.
This is like my first time finding that out.
I at least thought that Anna Paulina or some of these other people would be seeking to end murder.
andrew wilson
That's political suicide.
elijah schaffer
That's crazy.
Really?
andrew wilson
Yeah, it's political.
Well, there's a lot going on.
So even in that clip, there's a lot going on in that clip.
So what starts off, this chick's trying to get a got you moment on this guy.
Okay.
And the got you moment is: what if the ban comes through?
It's on your desk.
You can sign it.
It's done.
It's finally done, right?
Will you sign it?
The expectation is that he was going to weasel.
He was going to say, well, I'm not sure.
Maybe something like that.
But he says, no, we would veto it, which throws her whole line of questioning off.
You can tell she's stunlocked by this answer.
Well, the reason that the Republicans are taking that line is they think that they've reached kind of the great compromise.
Okay.
At the federal level, we're saying that the states themselves are the ones who are going to be the deciders of this.
The states themselves are.
So it's out of our hands.
We don't have to deal with this anymore.
There's no longer a federal problem.
The feds don't have to come down on this one way or the other.
And federal politicians don't have to argue it ad nauseum, but they still will because Democrats want federal protections.
And so all you're really doing is if you kick it back to the state, you don't put a ban on it, the fight's still going to happen.
It's just that now you're on defense again, right?
Now you're just on defense again.
We were on offense on this.
And so, and we need to stay on offense on it.
Yes, it's going to cost Republicans in the short term, but it would make huge long-term gains because, hey, look, they're actually consistent about the things that they believe.
But nope, they're going for a compromise.
It's a huge mistake.
The evangelical and the Christian base, the Republican Party, loathe this.
Abortion is their one topic.
That's their number one issue over all other issues.
Hey, we got to get this taken care of.
But and think of it from their perspective.
Of course, they think that.
They literally think you're killing babies, right?
So if you literally think that from their perception, from their perspective, of course, that's their number one issue.
So yeah, they needed to really be more consistent on this.
And yes, it could cost them politically in the short term, but I think pushing forward that this hurt Trump more to not push on this abortion ban, regardless of what his insiders told him.
Hey, this will cost you the election if you say there will be a federal ban.
I think the opposite is true.
I think a little consistency from Trump right now would go a long way.
elijah schaffer
Right, I do too.
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andrew wilson
You have the coffee jitters.
elijah schaffer
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All right.
So as we talk about this, I'm here with Andrew Wilson and with my some guy that just wandered in here.
No, I'm kidding.
With turning point journalist Kaylin Dalmeida.
You get that every time.
And we're just talking about this idea of the abortion ban.
I think what's kind of crazy to me, though, is that we aren't on the offense.
We are on the defense.
And I don't mean to make this too serious, but somebody's like, well, don't you want to win?
And it sort of reminds me of like, well, but if you if you win by standing for nothing, like if you win by standing for absolutely zero values or qualities, then you really haven't won, have you?
You've just got, it's like getting a participation trophy.
It's like you did get a trophy, but you didn't actually do anything.
You know, so if you're just like, we need to win and get power, but you don't have the balls to even to even say something before you're in power.
I just don't really believe that you're going to do anything better than what you're already enacting now.
So I don't, I don't trust the Republicans in the upcoming election.
So I know why people are feeling like they have no party to vote for.
You get the hyper-progressive left or the slightly progressive right.
And instead of like, you know, trying to, you know, get white people to vote for them, they went, what if to get people to vote for us, we just become more like the Democrats.
And you're like, oh, well, that's not a really winning thing.
andrew wilson
The big tent Republicanism.
The thing is, though, is look at it.
Look at it from the Republican, the kind of Republican idea is we don't have numbers anymore.
Okay.
And every single year, our numbers are going to decrease.
They're not going to increase.
And this has to do with the fact that we have a reproduction crisis inside of the United States, population collapse, which is imminent.
It's going to happen.
The only thing that's bolstering it right now is immigration, but in the long term, there's going to be a population collapse.
Every single year, we're going to lose numbers in the Republican side.
The Republican Party is doomed.
It is destined to go away.
And the Democrat Party is destined to thrive.
The thing is, on the push forward here, when you're talking about abortion, especially, the Republicans don't really lose anything at this point.
Everybody who has this as their first point issue, Republican or Democrat, has made up their mind on this issue, period.
If they have a full-on federal abortion ban, that is not going to sway the independents on this particular issue one way or the other.
So I think everybody who has a mind to make up on abortion has made it up on this issue at all or already.
And that if you're on the attack from the Republican side, it's not going to cost you any more than if you're on defense.
I think they're placating on this particular issue for no good reason because the rhetoric's going to work the same way either way.
If they came out and said, yeah, we do want a federal ban, they'd say, look, they want a federal ban.
If they don't say they want a federal ban, the Democrats will still say, look, they want a federal ban.
So the rhetoric of attack is going to be the same either way.
So I just don't think you lose a lot on this issue by saying, yes, we want the full federal ban.
elijah schaffer
What do you think?
I mean, like the idea of abortion, I don't think there's really a way to agree that it isn't murder, which is why I actually respect the hell out of Mark Loebliner, who will say that he believes in abortion up to a certain time, but he will say on the show, yeah, but it's murdering a kid.
Like it is killing a kid.
So if you like, and he'll just accept that.
I don't like the cope of like, well, it's not really murder.
Like, let's just get past that.
Okay.
andrew wilson
How's that better?
elijah schaffer
No, I'm saying because I like when people are honest, because I can deal with the conversation with an honest person.
It's better because I can accept somebody who's being real with themselves and saying, I believe in this.
But if you're not even willing to accept what something is, we're not even having, we're not even arguing about the same thing.
andrew wilson
But wouldn't that be the opposite?
Like, I would understand more if a person said, I don't believe this is murder.
It's just a clump of cells or blah, I could rationalize that in my head way easier than somebody saying, yes, it's absolutely murder.
I'm just for it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but I think you're thinking about return.
No, but yes, it's worse.
But I said, I can respect it in terms of I can't engage with someone.
You're saying, yeah, it's why we should make it illegal.
And they're coming from the perspective of like, oh, it's a clump of cells.
Well, we're not even arguing about the same topic.
You think we're arguing about legalizing the removal of a clump of cells.
I'm talking about a life.
But at least once we know it's a life and we know what's going on, we can then have an argument about the value of life.
Like we can then talk about, well, when does a life become valuable?
And that's a better discussion.
andrew wilson
And at least, at least we're on the same, you know, I think I understand your perspective of like, if you're a monster, I want to know that you're honest about being a monster.
That makes that makes sense to me.
But I think that the position itself is worse.
The position itself of being.
elijah schaffer
I don't try to throw Mark out of the boss here, but he said it on the show.
andrew wilson
Being like, yeah, I know it's a baby, but I'm going to fucking kill it anyway.
unidentified
It's like, ah, well, you know, hang on a second.
andrew wilson
I think maybe we should take a step back here and just remind you that that's a pretty monstrous fucking position to have.
elijah schaffer
Do you have an opinion on this?
kalen dalmeida
I do.
I think it's, I mean, obviously, I think it's murder.
I think you should be imprisoned for performing an abortion.
You should be imprisoned for going to get one.
I mean, that's what I see.
And I think until we start criminally prosecuting the women who get these abortions, we're always going to have problems.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I think so.
We're always going to have problems.
unidentified
I know.
elijah schaffer
I agree with you.
kalen dalmeida
But also, I think that this issue is never going to go away.
It's never going to go away because why didn't they codify it?
Why didn't they codify it?
They could have done that, right?
They could have made a permanent legalization of this Roe v. Wayne thing or whatever it was.
And they never did.
And that's because they want to run on it eternally.
They just want to run it.
They don't codify anything.
andrew wilson
The entirety of it was the Supreme Court.
I mean, there's no amendment for this.
It's just a ruling.
It's just a ruling.
There's never been, there's no entrenched constitutional right to get an abortion.
It just doesn't exist.
kalen dalmeida
But that's what people want.
andrew wilson
Yes, that's what they're doing.
kalen dalmeida
That's what people want, but they're never going to get it.
They're never going to.
No one is ever going to get it.
unidentified
Imagine that bitches are just out there like, I just really want to kill my kid.
elijah schaffer
Like, it's crazy to me that the argument we have, this is what I want to remind people.
You know, women say, oh, I'll choose the bear.
I'll choose the bear.
Well, women are more violent inherently than men.
I believe there is more, I believe there is more children aborted in the last 100 years than there were men who killed other men in war in all of human history or something like that.
I was reading, like in war, right?
Not that died or the plagues or starvation or things like that, but just genuinely.
And then on top of that, one thing that I want to bring up is what Lila said.
This is what I want to talk about today.
The new thing.
Because I want to talk about the Groyper War.
I know you've got your own opinions on this.
You know, Nick's a friend of mine too.
I mean, we're all on the same understanding here.
But people were saying that Nick Fuentes was retarded for launching this Groyper War and saying that he wasn't going to vote for Trump unless there were certain demands met.
Now, a lot of conservatives were saying, oh, he's a Democrat, all this yada, yada, yada.
I don't agree with that.
I don't agree with that.
But Lila Rose comes out today, says the same thing.
He doesn't meet my demands.
I'm not going to be voting for him.
And she's encouraging her followers.
She runs live action, I think.
She's got a lot of good following.
She's encouraging conservatives to not vote for him.
We now have two groups of people that are saying the same thing.
Trump, you've gotten too progressive.
You've gotten too liberal.
And unless you reneg and you come back to conservative principles, we are not going to be voting for you.
Different reasons, different standards.
I'm not putting words in either of their mouth.
They didn't say they're not for sure voting, but they're leaning towards it at least.
What do you think about this?
I mean, this is what's happening.
More and more conservatives saying they're not going to vote, which again is an automatic vote for Kamala Harris.
So people are conflicted.
Look at the comments.
I mean, oh, shit.
Okay, that's a dead baby.
And I saw that video.
Yeah.
You know, she's down here, but Ian Miles Chong says it's a state issue.
Making it a federal issue means you'll be forced to have an abortion of Democrats ever come into power.
andrew wilson
And it is crazy to me that Malaysia is retarded.
elijah schaffer
Well, I'm just saying that Malaysia is having the same argument too.
unidentified
the state's rights i'm pretty sure abortion is probably yeah I mean, he is.
andrew wilson
Let's be real.
He's a clout-hungry goblin on Twitter.
And anybody of any status on Twitter who makes a post, there's Ian Miles Chong with his big stupid ass opinion that he can never back up.
So, I mean, he's just a clout goblin.
The guy's annoying.
And I wouldn't say at all that this guy making a post necessarily even makes the post itself relevant, right?
But he just, he just goes kind of where the clout is.
Now, Lila Rose did a fantastic debate.
I believe it was with Trent Horne on her side against Destiny on abortion.
Trent Horn, I don't know if you know him or not.
He's a very, very famous Christian apologist, trad Cath apologist.
And I think that Lila Rose also is a trad Catholic.
So to them, of course, this is a pinnacle issue because from the perspective of Catholicism, especially Roman Catholicism, abortion is a mortal sin.
I mean, this is a horrific thing which is going on.
They have very specific details around even how sex is supposed to go.
I mean, where the seed goes, even.
I mean, this is a really, this is a really, really strict doctrine.
And you see all these trad casts out here now who they supported Trump and they supported Trump.
A lot of it, the reason was over this issue of abortion was he said, look, they ripped the, remember this?
They ripped the baby out.
They ripped the baby out and it's horrible.
That was old Trump rhetoric.
Now we're moving into, well, let's compromise.
So, of course, the trad casts hate this.
Of course, they absolutely loathe it.
Fuentes has that, but other reasons as well that he wants to see Trump move more to the right.
I think from him, it's an Israeli perspective, and he thinks that Trump might be moving towards being more of a war hawk.
And it seems that Fuentes' number one concern is a potential war in the Middle East with Iran and American involvement based around Israeli concerns.
elijah schaffer
I think that's reasonable, though.
I think it's a reasonable possibility.
andrew wilson
I'm just saying that I think that that's his concern.
And so that's why he's pushing it.
It's not a never-Trump position.
It's a Trump needs to move his position.
The Lila Rose position is far different.
Her position, at least from this tweet, is saying, listen, this is the pinnacle issue for us.
For our tribe of Catholics, this is the big one.
And you need to deliver on this, right?
You need to deliver on this.
We are not negotiating on baby killing.
We're not doing it.
We're not going to negotiate on this.
And I think she's right, right?
And more power to her for putting out that tweet because more of that needs to happen.
He doesn't need to be held to account.
He needs to be pushed towards a more right-wing position on this.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, who's okay?
So you guys just did a massive rally.
Was that action or was that action?
So you guys have a 501c3 and a C4.
I know you said there's turning point USA and then there's turning point action, which action is more political side of things.
So you guys just put on a massive freaking rally in Glendale.
Where was it?
Wasn't it in Phoenix or something like that?
Where was this?
kalen dalmeida
Yeah, this was in Glendale.
This is in Arizona.
elijah schaffer
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's in Glendale.
And there's like 200,000 people or something like that.
I don't even know.
Maybe it's less than that.
I'm kind of retarded every day, but today, especially, I can't even speak.
But I'm saying, you know, you guys put on a rally.
People are obviously, he's got a lot of support.
Okay.
He's got a lot of support.
Here's the question.
You know, so I know the Groipers have their war, and I respect everyone for doing what they think is right and what they think is going to help the country in terms of if they're sincere about it.
We can disagree on some of the details on how things work.
But one of the things I thought was interesting is that it seems like even though they're waging this war, Trump is like everything I see them do is goes further and further left regardless.
Or even when Lila does this, I don't see it really affecting him.
I know people point out he says, he kind of criticized his campaign manager, La Cevita, you know, on one of his rallies.
I know people think that he hired Corey Lewandowski.
I did contact the Trump team like directly and ask them apparently they were already working on this since July 1st.
So like, you know, and I mean, obviously people know you don't just bring people on your campaign.
It's like months, weeks of talk, right?
I work, you don't just hire an employee today.
Like it takes months or weeks to get something working.
So the question I have is, is this action from Lila, is this move from the Groipers, is this enough to really affect any influence, right?
Because trending on the internet is not influence.
Like having a lot of likes and followers doesn't mean that that translates into action.
Because Fuentes is saying now, if you don't do what we want, we're actually going to go to swing states and make sure that you lose them, right?
So he actually said that we're going to go campaign it and we're going to go out.
So even if he can't change Trump, there is a chance, because I don't know what he's planning on doing.
There is a chance he really could affect the swing states and cause Trump to lose that way.
That's like a counter signal, sort of like, it's pretty crazy.
I mean, he's saying he's going to do that.
I listened to his clips about that.
So I'm saying, like, is this really helpful?
Like, is that, is that what we're supposed to be doing?
Do you think it's really going to get Trump's attention?
Because I'm not seeing Trump give a fuck about any of this.
Like, I don't, I don't see him.
I don't see that he cares.
andrew wilson
Well, there's two kind of gateways here that I want to kind of attack on your position.
So the first one is the idea that influence is not important on the internet or is less important than people think.
That's one of the newer battlegrounds now.
Maybe the main battleground is what it's going to become as old media dies off.
You know what Twitch is, of course, and these platforms.
Twitch was bought out by a left-wing pack called Progressive Victory.
Progressive Victory bribed a small creator there under another creator named Breonna Wu.
I don't know if you know who Wu is, but this is way back in the Gamergate stuff.
Wu went in with Progressive PAC money and bought out Twitch politics, bought them out completely, bought out every influencer they could possibly find, brought them in on a payroll, which was against Twitch DOS.
Twitch knows all about it and still allowed it to happen, throwing thousands upon thousands of dark money dollars at this project.
The conservatives are not doing anything similar, and they probably should be because online influencers are going to be making a massive difference in politics going forward.
And they already have.
And we saw this in the previous election with Trump.
That whole war was a meme war and it was fought online.
It was the meme war of 2016.
And man, it was epic.
And it was, and you know what else it was?
It was fun.
It was a lot of fun, right?
And if you're having a lot of fun, you got the energy around you, you got the memes around you, it makes a huge difference.
And that's what that war was.
This time around, you still have the same thing going on, except the rights getting their ass kicked, right?
We don't have the great memes because we don't have God Emperor Trump anymore.
We have this husk of a man who resembles what Trump used to be.
So do I understand the kind of Fuentes frustration where he says, well, fine, if that's how it's going to be, I'm not going to vote for another fucking Democrat and put another fucking Democrat in office if there's already a Democrat running, right?
If I wanted those policies, then I would have voted for a Democrat to begin with.
I want somebody who's more to the right wing, more like what Trump used to be.
And this is the same thing that Leela Rose is saying.
So is it going to hurt Trump in the long run?
Well, I'm not sure from those creators.
Maybe they don't have the type of social clout that would be necessary to pull that off.
I don't know.
I'm sure it's not going to help him.
elijah schaffer
I mean, he got a meeting with Trump.
Remember with Kanye?
andrew wilson
I mean, they got Bilo and all that.
That was a whole different fucking fiasco.
But what I'm saying is, is that ultimately, I'm not sure if it's really going to hurt Trump much.
It might, but I understand the frustration of why these creators and influencers are moving that direction.
Because what's the difference, right?
We either are going to have a Democrat or Democrat light again.
The whole idea of Trump phenomenon and the Trump populism was that that was not going to be the choice going forward.
It was not going to be Democrat or Democrat life.
It's going to be populism, America first, the things we want in America first before anything else.
That's all gone.
elijah schaffer
I miss that, man.
It's like, I was thinking about that right now.
I remember the energy, right?
Like I was excited and I was stoked.
And now it's kind of like I'm like, who's going to be, who's going to be giving more money to Israel?
That's kind of what the decision I have right now is like, who, which, which party is going to send more arms to Israel and start another war quicker?
That's sort of what's happened.
And I feel like we end up being so compromised, so compromised by the money in politics, so compromised by the outside influence, by Israeli influence, particularly in our country, that, you know, I watched last night.
This is so crazy.
Let me go to my screen here.
This is nuts.
I was watching Newsmax, which is currently on in the studio.
And they had a segment on about the secret cabal.
We talked about this earlier of individuals who were running the country.
And they said that they're controlling the media.
Okay, see this?
Soros could join, could control 220 radio stations, right?
They have guys that look like Nissan.
They wrote books, you know, with Zuckerberg and Soros.
And they have, you know, some 45-year-old guy with a better hairline than me talking about this.
Now, the best part about this is they're talking about this.
I was feeling like I've never been gaslit worse.
I felt like I was my wife and listening to me, you know?
So it was like that kind of gaslighting.
And so the guy was like, you know, it's so crazy.
I'm like, yes.
He's like, they're rich.
They control the media.
Yes.
He goes, they're getting together and manipulating our currency.
And I was like, holy shit, this is the most based I've ever heard.
And he's like, he literally uses the phrase tentacles.
He's like, they have their tentacles and everything.
I go, what is this?
Who are these people, sir?
And he goes, it's the radical pro-Hamas left and villains.
He called them villains.
I feel like I was reading a New York Post article about black crime, you know, all the euphemisms they use.
He's like, villains.
And he goes, a handful of secret billionaires that are villains.
I go, oh my gosh.
And then at the end of the segment, no joke, no freaking joke.
They have two Jewish guys on, one that runs a Jews against Soros Foundation and the other one, I forget his name.
He used to be like one of the managing editors at Blaze and stuff.
He's Jewish, talking about how the main barrier we have to stop the secret cabal is, by the way, which they kept using Zuckerberg and Soros, Zuckerberg, Soros, Zuckerberg, Soros.
And they said it's Jews and Israel are helping on the front lines to dismantle and protect America.
Then they transitioned, like Caitlin Jenner, into one of our representatives saying that's why Congress is now allocating money to do what Americans are all asking for, which is investigate nonprofits that are funding pro-Hamas protests in the U.S.
And that they're using taxpayer money and that his constituents are super happy.
He was also fat, gay, and a Zionist.
Very bad trifecta there.
But that's the news, right?
So sometimes when I look at the world and I'm like, I could watch Fuentes or something get hopeful, think change is going to happen.
But then I realize what the Republican Party really is.
And I just summarized the Republican Party in like, you know, two minutes there.
That's the base.
That's really who's voted.
That's the average Republican voter is a retard who watches that shit, believes that shit, and was like, yo, hey, I just found out there's a small group of people manipulating everything.
He literally said, and the small group doesn't share values and they're trying to destroy everything we love about Western civilization.
It's like, did you know it's the pro-Hamas protesters?
It's the pro-Hamas protesters.
I swear, my dad will probably call me tomorrow and, you know, my friend, like, uncle's going to be like, I saw this on Newsmax.
So sometimes I think we get so hopeful that like, oh, the right's changing, but it's, to me, it seems more like a microcosm, like a niche of people that are changing.
But the main voting base, like the general base is still, they still believe we went to the moon, you know?
andrew wilson
So yeah, well, I mean, here's the thing, and this is the truth.
And people don't often want to hear what the truth is, but here is the truth.
The truth is, is that ultimately Israel is still really very popular in the United States.
Dispensationalism and the doctrine of dispensationalism and the doctrine of the prosperity gospel from which dispensationalism is delivered.
That is the medium for which it is delivered.
It is extremely popular among evangelical circles.
They don't worry about that side of the internet.
They don't worry about the other side who condemns dispensationalism.
It's very occultish in its nature, and it is very insidious.
And the evangelicals eat dispensationalism up.
They love the doctrine.
Now, it's a great heresy.
It's a great Christian heresy, but they absolutely adore it because of the packaging.
The packaging, and you know, are you familiar with dispensationalism?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I went to the school.
andrew wilson
Yeah, yeah, it's a cool.
So then you know the packaging of dispensationalism is around prosperity.
If you believe this, God's going to reward you.
If you help God's chosen people, God is going to reward you.
If you go and you assist the great state of Israel, God is going to reward you.
elijah schaffer
It's going to appear like that.
andrew wilson
Exactly.
And so this is an invasive heretical doctrine, which made its way all over the United States.
People everywhere have bought this up.
And you'll see when they're tangling up in the comments, even online, you'll see this over and over again.
Of course, we stand with Israel.
That's the chosen people of God.
Of course, we stand with Israel.
That is God's chosen.
Of course, we stand with Israel.
That is where the prophecy said that this is going to happen.
We must support him, right?
This is all based on a heretical doctrine called dispensationalism.
Now, you can look at the kind of distinction of groups, and it's really hard to make heads or tails of anti-Israel people because leftists can be anti-Israel very much so because they believe that they're supremacists and are picking on the poor Palestinians, right?
So they go, okay, well, now we're anti-Zionist.
And then you have right-wingers who also have kind of their own motivations behind it, right?
And where I differentiate often with the right, especially, is I'm not going to support fucking Muslims just because they don't like Israel.
I'm not fucking doing that.
That is the most heretical ideology I've ever heard.
They support a God, which is a Unitarian, or I'm sorry, its nature is non-triune.
It's a non-triune nature God.
So it doesn't have the same nature as a God that I worship.
It's not the same God.
So when I look at it, I'm like, look, and by the way, this is the same thing.
The Orthodox have not thought for a long, long time that religious Jews worship the same God that we worship.
They lost that a long time ago.
And that's all around dispensationalism, this belief that all of the Abrahamic religions are still worshiping the same God.
We're not.
We're not.
Okay.
And so this great heresy, which is so invasive that people have picked up, is it's, from my perspective, needs to be fought against tooth and nail in its delivery system of the prosperity gospel.
And by the way, those prosperity gospel preachers, many of them are bribed by Israeli intelligence.
Not kids.
unidentified
I can't believe it.
andrew wilson
They're bribed by Israeli intelligence in order to deliver the pro-dispensationalism message that's been declassified for years.
elijah schaffer
I've never heard of this.
Yeah, no, I genuinely have not.
andrew wilson
Well, when these massive prosperity gospel preachers go to Israel and they're kissing, you know, they're kissing the wall and they're saying, here's what their message ultimately is.
Listen, you weren't lucky enough to be born Jewish, but luckily for you, there is a pathway to salvation through Jesus Christ, right?
That is the message of dispensationalism.
Okay.
I'm sorry that you were not.
kalen dalmeida
It's like a dual covenant thing.
andrew wilson
And that's exactly what it is, right?
Is sorry that you weren't lucky enough, right?
But there's still a pathway for you.
Luckily for you, there's this pathway.
So anyway, when they flow these prosperity preachers out, okay, they fly them out with these wall kissers.
Yeah, they bribed them with tons and tons and tons of money, bribed them with tons of money.
So yeah, that's, I mean, that's something that's been going on since the 80s.
elijah schaffer
He gets free trips.
Do people know about this too?
I was raised in a denomination where like they give, like they were very connected with the state of Israel is very connected with a denomination called Calvary Chapel that claims that they're not a denomination, but they have a book called Calvary Chapel Distinctives, which is a book about their dogma and doctrine that's literally a denomination.
But anyway, I digress.
You know, that's obviously the Jesus people movement.
This comes out of the hippies.
This is more of what we experience today, Hillsong, et cetera, the sort of a non-denom feel.
But yeah, they were very tied to Israel and their founder, Chuck Smith.
He would go there all the time and they would have like, they had pictures of him by like the Jordan River and he was always called a friend of Israel.
But this is also really common to this day that like those trips continue.
They used to do them just religiously, but we all know like Breitbart and different publications were literally founded by, you know, in Israel and were, you know, founded out of trips to Israel.
And you get offered these kind of trips to this.
I just, I told people this year when I was, when I was kind of getting stealing, how effective it is.
andrew wilson
It's really effective to combine in a person's mind the idea that your faith is tied to a place.
And if your faith is tied to a place, then this place must be protected at all costs, right?
Now, you can see this in a very like scaled back way.
If you look at what happened during the lockdowns during COVID-19, people who had, you know, great, great church faith would protect their church from these lockdowns.
They said, screw you, we're going to go to church anyway, right?
In some way, in all of our minds, we kind of do this.
We kind of tie our faith to not just God and Jesus Christ, but to the place of worship, the house of worship, and in the case of the Orthodox, to the church, right?
The church, though, is more than just a single place.
Same thing with Roman Catholics.
It's more than just a single place.
We have a different idea of what church is.
But from the Protestant perspective, they're going to tie the idea of faith also to a place, to their church.
And that's why they were able to weather so well the COVID-19 lockdowns where churches said, screw you.
They were the first to resist the mandates and say, no, I don't care.
We're going to still have 100 people in here, regardless of if there's a limit of only four or five.
You can go to hell.
And they resisted it really well.
But now, what happens if you scale this up in the entirety of the prosperity, gospel, prosperity, preacher delivery system of dispensationalism, all of them tie their faith to this place and their faith, it's critical that this place always is put first, right?
Then it becomes a whole different policy.
This place is even more important than us.
This place over here is the most important place to protect.
This place over here is the thing that must be protected above all other things.
And it becomes an Israeli first political, not just an Israeli first agenda for your politics.
They're God's chosen people.
An Israeli first agenda for what you think God's mandate to you is.
Imagine tying those two together.
It's the most effective propaganda I could ever imagine.
Could you even imagine a way in which you could create propaganda more effective than that?
I don't even think you could.
elijah schaffer
No, because I was raised in it and I didn't know what it was, the dispensational stuff, but when I was raised in it, the craziest part, and I've brought this up, is the thinking about this country and the way that people think about it, it's almost sad because it cheapens the depth of faith that you can have in God and understanding how much God loves you and loves his church, where it's like, they still say, well, that's God's chosen people.
No, no, we're not actually the chosen people.
They're the chosen people.
We're just, but we're, we're, so what are we?
So they're the chosen people.
And what are you as, what, what even are you?
andrew wilson
Well, you were just lucky enough that Jesus Christ came back to die for you so that you had a pathway to.
unidentified
Right.
andrew wilson
And they're lucky for you.
elijah schaffer
But that's what I was going to say.
Think that Judaism and Jews are essentially just like one decision away from being a Christian.
They're essentially just Christians with a voodoo blessing from God, like a voodoo pixie dust on them.
And they don't have Jesus, but they have the super Jews power, which is that they're chosen.
And so they're going to, you know, God gets it.
He's going to be like, you know, maybe you hate me and you say I'm burning an excrement and you spread a lie that my body was stolen from the tomb and you've continually tried to kill to kill my people.
And even, you know, even Paul, Saul, or whatever, you know, he was a Jew and he was murdering all the Christians.
Then he converted, but still, you know, from the beginning of time, you guys have been trying to kill Christians in Christianity.
Somehow we're going to forget all that and just pretend that, you know, not only did Christianity start in the 1960s, because that's how what modern non-denom churches act like, like that they're the first ones to discover church in the Bible and they know how to do church that they're doing the right way.
Yeah, they do it the right way and everyone else didn't get it.
But then on top of that, they insert this weird political nationalism, but it's tied with Israel.
You go to these churches and they have Israeli flags.
They have a satanic symbol like in their church.
And I just think that's, that is bizarre.
That is bizarre.
I don't get it.
I don't get it, man.
andrew wilson
I get it.
It's phenomenal.
Not only do you start the propaganda this way, you're in a bad spot, but God wants you to not be in a bad spot.
God wants to help you.
God wants to give you prosperity.
He wants you, and they formed the Matthew principle around this, right?
To those who have will have more.
And they propagandize you this way with the prosperity gospel.
And they say, listen, God wants you to have everything.
All the material things you could ever want, God wants you to have.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah, but God is that.
I don't know that God.
andrew wilson
And then, and then so that's the hook.
And then we have the delivery system of dispensationalism, which comes with this message, okay?
This is a great perversion of even Protestant Christianity.
And Protestants should be doing everything they can to resist this.
And they should be doing everything they can to condemn prosperity gospel preachers, as most of them are the ones who spread dispensationalism.
They're the ones who, these are the late night infomercial preachers.
You know what I mean?
These were the guys who, the 700 Club, all of that, all of this started to become dispensationalism.
And it's still a very popular doctrine.
People have no idea that it's a popular doctrine.
But how many Christians actually believe this doctrine?
It's a huge amount.
Way, way more than people think.
kalen dalmeida
I will say, I went to Calvary Chapel.
That's, no.
I went to Calvary Chapel.
And I remember listening to a message about the Passover Lamb, but it was being given by a guy who would frequently visit the church.
His name is Amir Sarfati.
And he is a born-again Jewish guy.
He's called a Jewish, born-again Christian.
And I think that's an interesting way to say that.
andrew wilson
Why does that caveat even exist?
kalen dalmeida
I don't know.
And so he gives this message on the Passover lamb, but I swear he was slamming his fists on the pulpit, trying to convey that the whole story of the Passover Lamb is Israel.
That's what it's all about.
And I had an issue.
And I had never thought anything in my life.
I never thought, this is weird.
There is a great focus on Israel.
I thought that was normal.
But that message in particular, I thought, no, there's something off.
What do you mean the Passover Lamb?
This story is about Israel.
I don't think it is.
andrew wilson
Well, now in modernity, we also have this kind of secondary, great secondary issue, which is now you have Israel engaging in almost full-time conflict with its neighbors and with the Palestinians who are right on their doorstep.
So now we have another great choice, another great impasse, a kind of moral conundrum, which nobody wants to really deal with, which is, okay, are we going to support one of these over the other one of these?
And so my position has always been this.
I will never adopt ever nor help nor assist Islamic ideology ever, not under any circumstances.
But I also never support Zionist ideology either.
I do not think that you can replace one evil with another evil and say, well, I did the right thing here, right?
From my perspective, and I'll just be perfectly blunt, let the fucking sand people go at it.
I don't give a shit.
kalen dalmeida
No, I think that's a perfectly fine position.
That's a perfectly fine position.
It has nothing to do with me.
It's a very, very far away land that I've never been to.
It's been going on since the beginning of time, and it will continue.
And I don't want to be a part of it.
elijah schaffer
Well, and it's right.
I don't want to be a part of it.
You don't want to be a part of it.
But I think the unfortunate reality is when you start talking to people and you start trying to deprogram this, you know, there's such effective propaganda out there that you really, when you're attacking this, they think you're attacking not only God himself, but you're also like attacking their faith.
So when you're telling them like, hey, you're kind of brainwashing this weird political ideology, they've so effectively gotten the main Christian audience in the United States to adopt this political ideology without knowing that they've adopted it and not realizing it's a political ideology and it's also a heresy.
So it's on top of that, it's heretical and it makes them think and cheapen the blood of Christ.
Because what it does, it's like, well, they're the chosen ones.
And then what are we?
It's like, yeah, God gave you the leftovers.
So he just said his son, he died on the cross for your sins, rose again.
And that was because, you know, they already had the temple.
They are the chosen ones.
So it kind of gives you this lower level.
And people say, well, we don't preach that.
We don't talk about that.
Okay, I grew up in Calvary Chapel.
I went to Calvary Chapel Bible College, right?
You know, I went to seminary as well.
I've done four years of formal training in theology.
And the thing was, is they did teach you like a sort of like these people were special where in the practices, it would be like this.
It's like, oh, you're Jewish?
And everyone wanted to wish they were Jewish.
Everyone wanted to get a 23andMe and find out they were Jewish.
Everyone got the Hebrew, you know, words written on them.
Everyone wished they were Jewish.
andrew wilson
Yeah, it's very 20% more.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew wilson
it's very very hell yeah it's like because then gotta love you 20% well Well, but here's the thing.
All of these, all of these, to be perfectly honest with you, are great heresies.
Okay, modern Judaism from the Orthodox perspective is heretical.
Modern Islamic belief is heretical.
And this belief of dispensationalism is heretical.
All of this is heretical belief.
All of it.
100%.
And so the thing is, it's like you have to be cautious here on which heresy you want to support in order to condemn another heresy.
Or should you support any of the heresies?
I say we shouldn't support any of them.
And so I'm not willing to take the line of, well, Islamic people don't like them, don't like this group over here.
And you know what?
This group over here, the Christ killers, right?
From my perspective, the Islamics kill Christ every single day in their rhetoric.
They literally say he's not divine.
They say he's not divine.
That's killing Christ in the minds of millions and millions and millions.
Oh, no, no, we like Jesus.
We think he's great.
Okay, is he God?
Was he divine?
Nope, he wasn't divine.
That is killing Christ.
That's killing him in the minds of millions.
That's killing his divinity in the minds of millions.
I consider that just as heretical and just as brutal.
So ultimately, no, I'm not going to support you fucking Palestinians.
I'm not going to support you fucking Israelis.
Fuck you both.
unidentified
All right.
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unidentified
Damn it.
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All right, I'm joined in the studio by my guest today, Andrew Wilson, and as well as Kaylin Dalmeida.
Andrew is a commentator and doesn't give a fuck what you think.
And Kaylin Kalin is a journalist with Turning Point USA Frontlines.
And we're talking about this stuff.
I want to go into...
unidentified
What?
elijah schaffer
Just the way you said that.
unidentified
It's just...
kalen dalmeida
It's funny.
It's just funny.
You're a funny guy.
unidentified
He's a funny guy.
elijah schaffer
Some people, not like my own audience.
I don't even like what my audience doesn't even like me.
unidentified
Funny guy.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so Nick Fuentes.
We're talking a little bit about this and about Christianity and all this stuff.
Nick is a trad cast.
And that's what a lot of the groipers are, right?
They're real big into Catholicism.
That's my understanding.
unidentified
Am I wrong on that?
andrew wilson
It's a wide array.
I'd say the heart and core, one of the pillars which they ascribe to is Catholicism for sure.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and so they're coming out with some of this stuff as well on the voting where he says Trump campaign surrogates are furious that pro-life Republicans won't vote for Trump after Trump said that he would be great for abortion.
I don't know, seems pretty obvious.
Trump continues to alienate his own base and the shills blame his base.
So this is a topic that I think we can dive into.
You mentioned this a little bit earlier.
You know, when we originally followed Trump, it was exciting.
Like you had to fight to get into one of his rallies, literally fight your way in.
We're trying to beat the shit out of you.
I got knocked out.
Not knocked out, but I got knocked down by Antifa at one of his things too.
But now, like, Newsmax is on right there.
And that fucking loser guy, he's in the corner.
What's his name?
What's his name?
JD Vance.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
JD Vance.
I want to fucking shoot myself.
My producer was like, dude, people still go to Trump rallies?
I can't barely listen to it for 10 minutes.
It's just dumb shit.
You listen to them now.
Where's the energy?
Where's any of the rhetoric?
All you hear is ass-kissing minorities talking about how he's going to be the best president for women and how we're definitely going to protect abortion nationally.
And then when you point this out, what the fuck is this?
It's the bait and switch shit.
Everyone goes, oh, you're trying to lose an election.
Oh, you're a traitor to Trump.
Like, no, dog, I'm one of the original OG supporters.
And I'm not like, I've never been a Never Trump or I've never supported Mike Pence, even I fucking hated that twat.
But at the same time, could I at least maybe, you know, it's like, it's like, to me, Trump reminds me of people trying to pass off a trans as a woman.
It's like, oh, so your woman has a dick, a female dick.
It's like, he's my Republican, but he's a Democrat.
All his policies are Democrat now, but he's still got a Republican name.
And it's like, you got to, you know, embrace it.
You're either a tranny fucker or, you know, or not, right?
And so it's like, I'm not going to fuck with the trannies.
So I'm kind of like, I'm not, I'm going to vote, but I'm not excited.
You know, like, who the fuck's excited?
I'm not.
andrew wilson
Well, so yesterday we did, we kind of touched on this subject during a news segment on Fresh and Fit.
And interestingly enough, I think that Kami Haas, a communist that I was recently debating on there, we'll be debating again tomorrow night.
He actually kind of astutely pointed this out that in the 2016 kind of really Trump fervor, there was a core which MAGA was basing around the idea of, man, maybe we can get back to a time where you could support a family on one income.
You know, the wife could stay home.
There was maybe a clear pathway for some kind of traditionalism to rear up again, where we could make Midwest trade what it once was when all the car factories were open.
People were making a ton of money.
Dad was getting a new car every two years, trading his old one in, and he was bringing home huge paychecks.
We went on vacation every year, and he got to retire after working for 15 years.
He was retired, right?
We want that life back.
And that was what Trump was trying to say, right?
He's like, we're going to bring all of this back.
We're going to get rid of NAFTA.
We're going to get rid of all these trade deals.
We're going to get rid of all this bullshit.
We're bringing trade back and we're going to make it here.
And the jobs are going to come pouring back in.
And he was on the phone.
He called Boeing.
Remember when he called Boeing before he was ever even president and was like, I'm just going to negotiate out this standstill right now.
I gave him a phone call.
We took care of it, right?
That shit was awesome.
You look at that and go, this is great.
This is fantastic.
This guy really gives a shit about America, American manufacturing.
He was going to put tax on people.
If they move their companies offshore, fuck you.
We're going to tariff that shit to death.
You're going to keep it here or we're going to do something to you.
We're going to do something about this.
And so there was this kind of core, this underbelly, which was there.
He was able to tap into of people on the left and right who were like, yeah, yeah.
And you had the old school, like, fuck those bastards come.
You know, that's what the energy was.
That's what the feeling was.
Yeah, if they take our business out of here after we did everything to make sure that they got a business, they move it overseas to let a bunch of Tricoms make this shit for 20 cents on the dollar and screw over the American public.
They should get fined.
They should get taxed.
Screw them.
That was the kind of like underpinning underswell of which all of these other like, you know, tangential things like immigration and this kind of thing came from was still that kind of promise of getting back to America.
And that's fucking gone.
And that's why you're pissed.
And that's why you're pissed.
And that's why Lila's pissed.
And that's why Fuentes is pissed.
And that's why everybody's fucking pissed is because of that.
That's not there now.
He could still have all the anti-immigration policy.
He could still have all of that.
And I'm not sure it would even matter because that promise of the trade deals and the America first and we're going to keep it all here.
That's all gone.
And I don't hear about it at all.
And so nobody's excited.
And nobody's going to get excited.
kalen dalmeida
Dude, it's heartbreaking.
He slapped right before the lockdowns, right before the lockdowns, he slapped China with a fat tariff, I think, or was going to.
Something like that.
unidentified
Well, he did.
andrew wilson
Look, he did everything I would expect in America First President and the lead up.
He did it all, right?
We're going to build a 20-foot wall and you stay out.
You're going to pay for it.
And by the way, you can't come in here like South Park pointed out, right?
You can't come in here.
We got nice shit in here.
You can't have our stuff.
That's our stuff, fucker.
Get out of here, right?
That was total America first, right?
I'm going to get on the phone with these with these trade companies and tell them, no, you're not moving your shit overseas or else we're going to tax you to death.
You're keeping it right here and you're providing jobs for hardworking Americans.
That's what you're going to do.
And I'm going to tap into your patriotism so that you do do that.
Right.
And that was just, people had never seen anything like that.
They had never seen somebody do that.
Just pick up the phone and go, what can I do to convince you to keep those 50,000 jobs here?
Because I need them.
I need these voters here happy and fat and having babies and living the American dream.
That's gone.
Where is it?
Have you seen it?
elijah schaffer
Gone.
unidentified
No.
andrew wilson
Gone.
elijah schaffer
No, you know, was that a, someone hit the mic?
Was it thunder?
andrew wilson
No, that was.
kalen dalmeida
I literally saw lightning.
elijah schaffer
Oh, that was thunder.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
I was like, wow.
I was like, that's God coming down.
You know, but like, but no, and I'm with you.
And I think that the anger is not misplaced.
It's like, I supported Trump because I was racist.
I'm just kidding.
No, but I supported Trump when they were like, when they were, when they were saying, like, you know, like, oh, you know, Trump people are racist and everything.
I'm like, hell yeah, we are.
I was actually kind of how I thought back in the day, you know, and they were like, you're a white supremacist.
And I'm like, yeah, buddy, let's go.
But no, but I'm totally fucking around.
But what I do think is this, is I would, you know, I was raised in LA.
I looked around.
I was a minority.
I grew up as a minority in a city and it fucking blows.
Not because I was a minority, but because I noticed that when I would go to the white areas in Orange County, also Sans, Asian adjacent as well, things were nice.
Places were clean.
And I happened to get a scholarship to go to a private junior highs, homeschooled, and I started going to like families' houses.
And houses didn't smell like cat piss and things were nice.
And I'm going, holy shit.
I started to notice, hey, there's a difference between being like in Hispanic and black areas and being around white people.
And I go, I kind of like this.
You know what?
And people say, is that racism?
Well, if racism is not liking to smell cat piss, and I'm a motherfucking racist asshole, I also am just because I am.
But, but on, but on the flip side, it was like, I started to recognize these things.
And as I got older, I vowed I would never be poor.
I was going to take care of myself.
I was going to own nice things.
And as I'm going to college, obviously I'm seeing how woke everything is, right?
This is like, you know, back in the day and seeing how crazy it is.
And Trump comes out and he's like, you know, honestly, not most Mexicans aren't that great.
And I was like, it's actually, even Mexicans would admit that, you know, like Mexicans know, they do a hell of a good job at mowing every other lawn except for their own, you know?
So when you talk about like the culture and the understanding, I love Hispanic people, but they're cheap as fuck.
I'm my rich Hispanic friend.
They're still cheap.
They won't play shit and whatever.
And there's a certain culture.
And Trump was like, look, we don't want that culture here.
That's what I took it as.
It wasn't like, hey, if you're brown in America, fuck you.
We hate you.
It's like, no, look, they have a way of doing things and their way of doing things sucks ass.
And we're Americans and we built this damn country.
We make nice things, quality things, and we want our house not smelling like cat piss.
Fast forward now, eight years, whatever it is now, they're going, are you excited for Trump?
And I'm like, oh, tell me what he is.
And he's like, you know, women are going to get it so good.
I'm like, is he talking about grabbing by the pussy again?
Because are we on board with this?
What's going on?
No, I'm just going to.
But he's like, no.
Now he's like, you know, not only do this, we're going to make sure that, you know, your pussy has free cleaning sessions at Planned Parenthood, you know, every Friday.
Everyone's like, whoa, cheering.
And you're like, what the fuck is going on here?
So it's not even that he just is pulled back or is not really pushing his old platform.
It's that he's literally trying to get people excited about gay Libtard shit, right?
It's like fag Libtard shit.
andrew wilson
That's why he's thinking, come on.
I think he could even do that if the promise of an America first was there and it's not there anymore.
There is no more promise of the America First.
So like, I don't think that that was what Trump's promise was, the idea that no white kid in the city is going to ever have to smell cat piss in a Mexican house again.
Hell yeah.
But the thing is, but the thing is, right?
Yeah, no, I get it.
I can't do Joey, but what I'm saying is that, but what I do think is that he captured the imagination of the voting bloc where they thought all possibilities for their ideal country were now possible.
Whatever my kind of ultimate ideal of Andrew Wilson's America was was now possible because we had a policy that put America first.
And if that was the case and there was economic prosperity, I had a chance at whatever the perception was of the amazing thing that I wanted so bad.
And I think that that was what swept him into office.
And it was the realization that people had of perhaps whatever the idealized version of America is for me is now possible again.
And when he did things like the Muslim ban, right?
Which was just a travel ban, right?
I wish it had been a Muslim ban, but it was just a travel ban.
Okay.
It was just a travel ban.
But he was absolutely right then too, right?
He's like, look, you guys, you're coming around.
You're blowing shit up.
We can't have this, right?
We can't have this.
And I thought that that was a great way to look at it because we all thought the same shit.
We're like, why the fuck are you bringing these people here to blow everything up?
They fucking, you know, what are you doing?
And that was exactly what he thought too.
And it played really well to the base.
It played really well to everybody.
Everybody really enjoyed that aspect of Trump.
Again, that looked to me like I'm putting my people first.
Screw you guys.
You stay over there in your shithole, right?
I'm putting my people first.
But all of it, all that groundswell had to start with the promise of prosperity again.
There could really be a chance for prosperity again because these big companies, they weren't going to be running shit.
The big government giving these contracts out to Asia and every other place to build, you know, whatever the latest product is, that's done.
It's over with.
And that appealed to the left too, who love trade unions and have been demanding endlessly that trade stay inside of the United States.
While conservatives who are tarded sometimes go, well, wait a second.
What about my free market?
And it's like, okay, well, you can't compete with somebody making five cents an hour, you fucking idiot.
And Trump knew this.
He knew this.
So he's like, look, you know how we offset that?
Okay, now they're going to have to pay them what would seemingly be $20 an hour because we're going to tear off the shit out of their goods.
So that's what it's going to equal on whoever it is who's sending the goods in.
Suddenly, the Democrats, who are all for trade unions and keeping businesses here, are like, how could you stifle free trade?
It's like, what is going on?
That was the Trump promise to America, though.
The promise was, it stays here.
We build it here.
This shit's ours.
You can go to hell.
That's gone.
It's just gone.
elijah schaffer
It absolutely is.
And I think, you know, the rest of the show, we're going to be having the rest of the show only on Rumble and on Censored.
We usually switch the show over there because YouTube is gay and they really ruin our channel all the time.
And they've destroyed it.
They demonetized it.
They don't promote it anymore.
And so we're really trying to grow our Rumble channel.
Remember, you can also give super chats as well in Rumble and we'll read them all with you guys, which is really amazing.
But don't forget that if you like the show and you watch it, we're demonetized even on X, which is crazy.
I don't even know.
We talk about, I don't even know how that's just crazy.
I got demonetized on Twitter.
I'm like one of the only people I think that didn't do anything wrong.
You know, I'm just like the Jewish people.
Like things just happen, bad things happen to me, and I don't not doing anything.
Nothing at all.
Just 110 issues.
Bad countries, you know, that just hated him.
No, but I actually got demonetized everywhere and everything's good.
But the show's awesome.
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Tomorrow, I got a one-on-one with Andrew Tate and Kristen Tate's lawyer, who's representing them in the new case directly, their attorney.
And we're going over the whole case together and talking about what the charges, what's not happening, and stuff.
And that's going to be exclusive only on censored TV for the members who are there.
So make sure that you check it out.
Anyway, we're going to take a two, three, four-minute break.
My guests here are Andrew Wilson and Kaylin.
Before we switch over, though, to Rumble, I always give my guests twice to plug their social media.
So, Andrew, how can people find and follow you before we make the switch?
andrew wilson
Yeah, you can find me on The Crucible.
You can become a member of the Crucible.video, is where you can see my entire back catalog.
Epic debates, great content.
It's one of the most entertaining shows on the internet, by the way.
Also, you can find me on Twitter at PaleoChristCon, and you can buy the course that I have on debating from debateuniversity.com.
It's fantastic.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
And Kaylin, if people want to find you and follow you.
kalen dalmeida
If you want to, if you want to, you can find me on X and Instagram.
Act from Kaylin.
This is At from Kaylin, F-R-O-N-K-L-E-N.
And that's where you can find me.
elijah schaffer
Kaylin always gets the horns.
All right, rest of you guys.
We'll see you over there.
Let's go ahead and let's cue the music.
I'm going to mute the mics and we'll see you over on Rumble and on Censored and Locals.
We'll go over super chats, talk about a couple other topics, and then we'll give Andrew a kiss goodbye.
We'll see you guys there.
All right, we alive Hold up.
That's like the, they always do that at the Fresh and Fit.
What's crazy is we were talking a little bit about dispensationalism, and this is a true story.
Listen to this.
Andrew Wilson's joining me.
And Kaitlyn Delmeida.
So, you know, everyone knows like Christians love Chick-fil-A, right?
That's like a whole thing.
And they're real big up against the abortion thing.
So the dispensationalism tying in like a support for Israel and Jews.
And Chick-fil-A and Christians all sort of intersected.
They have this new thing.
It's called like the Christian dispensational burger.
I'm not even joking.
Or like, sell the D-burger.
Check this out.
And you order it.
This is not even a joke.
Tell them to open it up.
I ordered this from Chick-fil-A.
This is real.
Open it up and see what they gave you.
Watch, check this out.
unidentified
Look at it.
elijah schaffer
Show them what it is.
unidentified
Yeah, what is it?
elijah schaffer
Show them what is it?
unidentified
What is that?
elijah schaffer
What is it?
andrew wilson
It looks like a picture.
unidentified
Can you show them?
kalen dalmeida
It looks like it.
andrew wilson
Is this one of your kids?
unidentified
Is that one of your kids, Elijah?
kalen dalmeida
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
Can you show them?
Can you show them there?
Yeah, go ahead.
A little shot of this guy right here.
kalen dalmeida
You'll notice he's got a mouth, like a speaking tube or like a tube in his neck.
He's actually in a wheelchair, too.
But this is one of God's chosen people.
This guy's better than you.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
He's better than you.
kalen dalmeida
God favors him.
elijah schaffer
He's more.
kalen dalmeida
God shows portion, excuse me, partiality.
I'm waking up.
I feel like that...
andrew wilson
The thing is...
kalen dalmeida
The B4 stuff is kicking in.
andrew wilson
I don't think...
elijah schaffer
I'm good.
andrew wilson
I don't think it's a good idea or great idea from the Christian ethic.
If we move too far to the other end and we get into like, well, just Jews are ontologically evil.
I think that that's also bad doctrine.
We probably shouldn't do that either.
kalen dalmeida
I don't blame that.
andrew wilson
But the thing is, is that it is true that dispensationalism is a massive problem and heresy that needs to be dealt with.
But even some Orthodox Jews believe that this is true.
It's just that Orthodox Jews don't do conversion, and so they don't do preaching.
In fact, you can't really do debates with Orthodox Jews because they don't debate.
And the reason they don't debate is because they have no need to debate because they don't convert.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah, they don't.
And there's a really good series of books called the Answering Jewish Objections.
Have you ever heard of this?
andrew wilson
Yeah.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah.
Really, really good series of books that I thought I would mention because there's a lot of people who have questions about Christ.
elijah schaffer
Well, and okay, because of the timing here with Andrew, I want to get to some of these questions here from you guys, reminding you that you can always ask questions for free on Censored.
We also have the super chats as well as on locals.
People are sending chats in.
Kyle West sent in a super chat and said, thank you for spreading the word on this.
He was talking about during the time on the dispensational stuff.
So I kind of want to throw that to you.
You know, I don't think a lot of Christians know what dispensationalism is because it's sort of like living in a dictatorial community like North Korea or something where they're going to censor and keep out what's really going on in the world so that you don't even know that you're in a weird situation.
You don't even know what's going on.
And it's sort of ignorance is bliss.
Do you find that there's a lot of pushback from the evangelical community, like sort of denying that, you know, this is a problem or that this is a heresy?
andrew wilson
Yeah, they call us heretics instead, right?
They call the Orthodox every name that you can possibly imagine, even though it's the original Church of Christ over the tomb of Jesus Christ right now is an Orthodox Church.
That is the church over the tomb of Jesus Christ.
kalen dalmeida
What are you?
andrew wilson
I'm an Eastern Orthodox.
kalen dalmeida
Oh, really?
Okay.
I was looking into Orthodox recently.
andrew wilson
Yeah, I mean, Eastern Orthodox Christian baptized into the church.
And the thing is, is, yeah, so they call us icon worshipers and everything in between.
We worship the exact same way that Christians have been worshiping for 2,000 years.
No deviation in the church.
And there's a good reason for that because with church tradition, you know that you are worshiping the correct way and you're doing it exactly how Jesus Christ said you needed to do it.
And there is a proper way to worship.
The Protestant heresies all come from Martin Luther essentially breaking off.
And without a strong theological doctrine, they were able to make the idea of exegesis or that you are the ultimate arbiter of what's in the Bible.
Because that is the case, any person who is charismatic can say, I exegeted the text to say this.
This is what the Bible really means.
And so follow me and I will show you the promised land, whatever that is, right?
Whatever this version of it is.
They can just exegete it, say, due to what the Holy Spirit has told me, right?
I am the ultimate arbiter of everything that is in the Bible.
So follow me.
And that's exactly what happens.
And this is why Protestantism has always been a really big weak point in the United States.
It destroyed the idea of an American identity.
Protestantism destroyed the idea of a unified American identity that other places don't have.
Usually they, so all culture comes downwind from theology, and then your politics comes downwind from culture, right?
So that's the way it always works in every culture, anywhere.
The theology sets the precedent for what the culture can do.
It's the moral restriction.
It's also what you should do, your oughts.
All of this comes from your theology.
And American theology was a fucking mess, right?
All every single colony had its own, its own Protestant sect and its own church.
And at our founding, I think every single colony, which then became a state, still had a state church, right?
It did not come until later that states got rid of their state churches.
So the idea that there was a unified identity, you just throw that out the window.
There never has been.
And so this is why there's such a hodgepodge of culture inside of America, even with people who have a lot in common, like Germans and Dutch and people like this.
They may have a lot of things in common.
But if you don't have that religion in common, that kind of religious unifying point, you don't know what you're supposed to be doing, what you're supposed to be working towards.
And so that's why you can go into one town in a state and you can't get any alcohol.
You go to another one and it's just flowing in it, right?
There's no good unification.
And it was kind of the great robbery of the American identity that there was no established religion that worked in synergy with the Republic.
It was a huge mistake.
And I think it cost America what its identity would end up being, which is no identity.
elijah schaffer
Now we're praying to Hindu gods.
Yeah, Wahagru.
Dear Wahagru, that was wild.
You know, I didn't even know that that was happening.
It's like the RNC.
I'm so retarded.
I wasn't even paying attention.
I was just like, oh, taking pictures.
And then I got on Twitter and then it was like, oh, that was a prayer because I don't pay attention to what they're saying on the stage.
Have you ever read those events?
You'll pay attention to what they're saying on the stage.
And I was like, whoa, shit, were they praying to demons and shit?
I was like, wow, this is getting crazy.
Anyway, Psyche said, Andrew, is communism the number one threat in the West?
andrew wilson
No, it's not the, I mean, if you can, it depends on what you consider communism to be.
If you consider it to just be like mixed economy socialism or socialist policies, then yeah, that's a big threat.
But if you're talking about actual communism, big C communism, it's a dead ideology.
It's almost not even worth debating or squabbling over because people fucking hate it.
They don't want anything to do with it.
Communist Party has been very ineffective inside of the United States, gaining any kind of steam.
Socialists, on the other hand, they seem to be doing pretty well, but they use the free market.
They kind of use a blend of the free market in order to push their social justice systems.
But all of this, I think, comes down to religiosity, not political systems of ideology.
So when it comes down to religion, this is a secular, so secularist battling with non-secularist and secular values.
Well, they don't fucking have any because their epistemology has no grounding.
They don't have any type of thing in which they can adjudicate what is true, which is an unchanging standard.
That would be God for us.
So we always know what we're supposed to be doing, what we ought to be doing.
For secularists, everything is up in the air.
Whatever they ought to be doing is whatever they fucking decide feels good at the time, and that's what they ought to do.
So I think secularism, which is where all communist countries end up being secular is for a reason, secularism, I think, is the kind of largest independent problem we'll be dealing with in the West for, you know, until the West erodes to the point where there's no return.
It's going to be secularism versus religion.
elijah schaffer
Geez, you know, I think that's why accepted decline said, good guest, Elijah, make this happen more and I'll give you more money.
That's fine.
I mean, I appreciate that, but it's really good because if you know this, when you guys donate to this kind of stuff, like Andrew's Ubers, they're more than $3, which is crazy.
So I appreciate all of the donations and what goes on there.
But most importantly, also, too, you're paying his rent.
So, you know, in the real world, you know, give us $8.
That pays the rent for this building.
I always say make $43, you know what I mean?
A week here.
Throw something in the tip jar.
Yeah, throw something in.
But obviously, we live in a real world with big boy numbers and things are expensive to run media.
But I do it because I love you guys.
And I'm really glad that Andrew really went out of his way to come here.
And he's got to go in just a second.
So I'm only going to be able to read a couple more of you.
andrew wilson
I'd love to stay here.
I'd love to stay longer.
Fortunately, I have an engagement on Fresh and Fit.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
I'm going to let you out.
I just wanted to read one thing.
Someone said that Andrew's TikTok invasion is awesome.
He goes on live TikTok channels and debates.
It makes you a bit depressed to see the reality of our youth and just the West in general.
They kick him every time.
So this show's going to continue, but you got a lot of fans.
A lot of people out there.
We're going to talk about a couple new topics, including Wish You Could Stay, talk about Zuckerberg admitting the government's been petitioning the social media companies to censor Americans and what we're doing to fight that because we're doing something here to fight that.
We'll get into it.
Andrew, thank you so much for coming, man.
It's been a huge honor having you on the show.
We'll have to have you back on.
But for those people who want to find you and follow you, who just joined the stream, go ahead and plug your channels and then we'll send you off.
andrew wilson
Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson, the host of The Crucible.
It is, to my knowledge, the fastest growing debate channel anywhere on the internet, not just YouTube.
Though I could be wrong, I just haven't seen another one that is.
You can find me there.
You can become a member of thecrucible.video.
Find my back catalog.
We do do TikTok and X Invasions, where you'll see me debating with hundreds and hundreds of different random people who hold channels all over the world and their various crazy and insane ideologies.
It's like nothing you've ever seen.
It's one of the most entertaining times you'll ever have.
So I hope to see all of you over there.
You can also find me on Twitter at PaleoChristCon.
And you can find my course on debating at debateuniversity.com.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
Amazing.
We have our guest here, Andrew Wilson.
Go in peace.
Have a great trip, man, and we'll see you around.
Anyway, I'm here with my other guest.
I'll just give you a little some knuckles, bro.
I can't like, yeah.
unidentified
Shit.
elijah schaffer
All right.
See you later, bro.
Take care.
And you know, if you want to get the Uber, you want to go down that hall and go to where you see like the couches and stuff up there.
That's like the front.
And that's where they'll probably pick you up.
All right.
See you around, brother.
All right.
I'm joining the studio with Andrew Wilson's ghost.
We should put this back up, actually.
Can you put this on?
Can you put this on the on his microphone, please?
Just go ahead and tape that on, For a second, I know, like in the front, yeah, like they go, no, no, yeah, like that.
It should have a sticky thing, and you can sort of stick that.
Yeah, go ahead and stick that on.
There you go.
unidentified
Looks oh, shit.
elijah schaffer
It's God's chosen people.
It's so good.
All right.
I'm joined in the studio by Caitlin, and I want to talk about a couple things.
I mean, obviously, the conversation is interesting about dispensationalism and what's going on, but on a big story on something that happened today, basically, Mark Zuckerberg, one of the crazy, villainous handful of selected billionaires that's controlling the world and the media.
He came out today and he said that he regretted working with the Biden administration, which is currently Kamala Harris and Biden, to directly censor Americans' ideas on meta, so Instagram and Facebook and WhatsApp, right?
Their associated apps, that they worked to do this during the pandemic.
They shut down people's reservations on the vaccine.
They also meddled in the election, right?
Put hundreds of millions of dollars illegally into manipulating search results.
They also did what Google did, where they, of course, you know, shut down basically, you know, negative news about Biden and then boosted negative news about Trump.
And sometimes I feel like, you know, you mentioned earlier, people are like, well, this is so cool.
Zuckerberg admits that he did something that maybe potentially killed millions of people, overturned an election, and destroyed our country permanently.
He's so fucking cool.
He admitted he did something.
kalen dalmeida
Let's put him on a pedestal, actually.
elijah schaffer
Let's give him a speech at turning point.
I'm saying, you know, we'll make him an influence.
He'll be a representative.
But that's what happens in our side.
It's like we lose so badly that some guys like, hey, by the way, he just admits it.
I kind of feel bad about fucking over everyone for the last eight years.
unidentified
And you go, holy shit, we're so back, boys.
We're back.
We're back.
We're so back.
elijah schaffer
And it's like, yeah, you know, I don't know if that's really a win.
I don't think it's a win.
kalen dalmeida
No, neither do I.
I think it's ridiculous.
And the right seems to do this a lot with like a lot of people.
It's not just Zuckerberg.
Like, I know that's who we're talking about now, but like we do that all the time, right?
Some girl says, you know, she says nigga, and then we're like, let's put her up at Yaku Rocket.
She's your best.
And like, why are we doing that?
We always do that.
We did that with like Amy Coney Barrett, and she ended up not being that great.
She wasn't that, she wasn't that awesome, right?
But like, we want to give anybody who says anything remotely in line with what is, you know, thought of as normal in the tribe.
And we want to put laser eyes on them.
You know what I mean?
We want to put laser eyes on them and make memes about them and act like they're the savior.
It's very bizarre behavior.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I think the weirdest part about all this, I want to look at something here because also Trump, this is another notable news, right?
I don't know if you guys know this, but Trump was just indicted again, right?
So people are like, you know, he beat all of the law fair.
Just to remind you, they're never going to stop.
You know what I mean?
Like, the government is a lot like women.
They never forget and they have a long memory.
kalen dalmeida
And they cheat.
They don't play by any sort of like moral rule.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
No, well, it's, it's, but it's worse than that.
There's no rules because who's going to arrest them?
The fucking government?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Like, who's going to arrest you?
You are the government.
But, you know, Trump was indicted again.
And for people that don't know that, meaning he was like recharged after winning the cases, they're throwing the book at him.
This is very similar to what happened with Andrew and Tristan Tate, right?
You kind of like recharge people for the same crimes under alternative charges.
Kyle Becker summarized it, and I did want to read this to you guys because I think this is important to talking about what's going on in the country.
He said, Jack Smith ruled in federal court to be unlawfully appointed as special counsel, has filed a superseding indictment, which is like an indictment, but extra zesty, you know?
It's a superseding indictment against presidential candidate Donald Trump for alleged conspiracy to commit fraud.
Dude, it's insane that we're like basically charging people with the intent to do something wrong.
And I, the government of all people, should not be responsible for deciding who's committing fraud.
Like, the entire government is fraudulent.
Everything that they're doing to us is fraudulent.
We pay taxes on our income, and then we pay money for all intents and purposes on here.
Pay taxes.
I do.
And then you pay taxes to spend your money, you sales tax, and you save up to buy property that you pay taxes on.
You never own the property because the property taxes government can take it from you.
You don't own anything.
You can't own anything.
And the government lies.
kalen dalmeida
Gains tax.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that's another problem.
kalen dalmeida
What the hell is that?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Recommendable wants to tax you on money that you haven't made.
That's a real story, guys.
That's not a joke.
kalen dalmeida
It's so ridiculous.
It's like, okay, well, let me claim my unrealized newborns.
elijah schaffer
Well, no, I've had a reason combo.
I have some unrealized blowjobs that need to be fulfilled.
You know what I'm saying?
It's true.
Do you get like an imaginative orgasm?
It's like, ooh, when I get home later.
You know, I don't know.
You don't get to basically want to tax you on the equity in your investment.
So if you have property and you bought it for $150,000 and then it's now worth $250,000 because for some reason houses went up like $100,000 in the last couple years for no reason at all.
And then basically you would end up paying taxes on that equity.
So you're paying a capital gains tax, particularly if it's a new property.
So if you're planning on flipping it or selling it, you're actually paying tax already on the value of the property before you've even sold it.
Or it's calculated and added on at the end.
It doesn't make any sense.
But anyway, I digress saying this.
Here's what happened with this indictment.
He said, the superseding indictment contends three, there were three criminal conspiracies committed by Trump.
One, the conspiracy to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful government function of certifying an election.
Two, conspiracy to obstruct and impede the Electoral College proceeding on January 6th.
Three, conspiracy against the right to have one's vote counted.
Smith's indictment further contends that the constitutional right to have contingent alternate slates of electors is unlawful and fraudulent.
Alternate slates of electors have been used in previous elections, including the 1960s.
Electors are not bound to support given presidential candidate unless directed by the state law.
Those who choose a different candidate than the presumed victor of state election are known as faithless electors.
And it goes on to explain a lot more here, which I won't get into because it's boring.
Genuinely, that's just boring shit.
But I only bring this up for the fact that I don't think people realize that the era of Trumpianism is over.
We sort of just have like a very exhausted, worn-down Trump.
And I don't blame him because I don't blame him.
Because, you know, have you ever listened to women?
Right?
It wears you down after a while.
It does.
It wears you down.
You're like, can we not?
No, but I'm joking.
But I mean, you know, eventually you get worn down by things.
So I think he's just tired and he's old.
And to be fair, he's really old.
kalen dalmeida
And he's taken a lot.
He's taken tons of abuse.
He's taken so much abuse over the last eight years.
Right.
It's ridiculous.
But to be honest, my position is like, I still don't know.
In terms of like who's a good guy and who's a bad guy, I still don't know.
Like, is it a good guy thing to like spearhead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality everywhere in the world?
I think that's a bad guy thing.
elijah schaffer
No.
What the hell are you talking about?
kalen dalmeida
What?
Trump did that.
elijah schaffer
Wait, decriminalized homosexuality.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah, no.
elijah schaffer
That made this show legal.
That's true.
We got on there.
He's like, decriminalizing the show.
We're not going to jail anymore.
kalen dalmeida
That's a bad guy thing, I think.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, but a lot of that also, a lot of that, too, is like just flexing, right?
A lot of that is sort of this hegemony of progressivism.
And I think people don't realize that what you're experiencing, progressivism is just like sped up liberalism.
It's not really its own category of ideology.
You know, when you think about people like, I'm liberal, I'm liberal, but I, but I don't like, you know, progressivism.
I don't like this rapid onset.
Look, when we turned into gay Jewish liberalism after World War II, when we adopted this Judeo-Christian worldview, when we put hyphens and things, right?
We ended up as a hyphenated country.
People don't realize that.
When we switched from being a Christian country to Judeo-Christian and we added that hyphen, we became hyphenated everything.
African-American, Mexican-American, gay American.
We became something else plus American, something else plus Christ, something else plus this.
And there's nothing that's really uniting any of us together.
We're not united under any banner, under any cause.
And so when I look at these indictments, I look what's going on here.
The way I see it is there is definitely a deep state, a government entity.
There are people that run the show.
Obama's running things behind the scene.
We know that.
Susan Rice, these individuals are running the show currently.
And no matter what you do, no matter what you try to do, even if you think you can vote your way out of it, there are no options left.
And so, realistically speaking, there's going to be like three ways out of this.
Either the system collapses like the USSR, mobs sort of, you know, carve up and take up certain parts of the empire, and you sort of have this loose, you know, country that has to be rebuilt by a Vladimir Putin type of thing.
Or perhaps, like, the reason why I want to take this roundabout back to the people saying not voting is what do they think is going to happen?
Like, do they think the country is just going to collapse and then Christian Crusaders are going to come on horseback?
And did I do that on accident?
My bad.
Christian Crusaders are going to come on horseback and turn this into the Christian Caliphate.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And everyone's going to be Catholic.
That's not what's going to happen.
Like, it's going to, there's going to be famine.
There's going to be supply chain breakdowns.
There's going to be black people are knocking it.
They're not going to be policing for black people.
Think about that.
Black people won't be policed.
That's already happened.
kalen dalmeida
You're not policed now?
unidentified
I don't.
kalen dalmeida
I don't.
elijah schaffer
Yes.
Do you know how much resources we use to keep black people from just destroying our country?
kalen dalmeida
It's funny, it's insane.
I was talking to some black people at the DNC who lived in that neighborhood right outside the DNC.
And they were like, we never see police here.
They were like, we've never seen police before.
elijah schaffer
What, in Chicago?
kalen dalmeida
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
That's impossible.
I've been to Chicago many times.
I've never seen more police in any city than in Chicago.
unidentified
More than New York.
kalen dalmeida
I mean, that's what they said.
They said it themselves.
They were like, yo, a lot of bad stuff happens here.
We've got people running by seeing how many bullets they can pump into somebody.
And like, we never see any police.
It might be an hour or two before police show up.
Well, so with that, I think amazing.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I was just going to say that I think, you know, in the retrospect, if this country collapses, it's not like America is going to just go away.
You know, Russia didn't cease to exist.
kalen dalmeida
Right, right, right.
elijah schaffer
You know, the country didn't go away, but it was a very difficult 10 years and mobs took over.
And we sort of have that idea now, right?
People are sort of just doing as they please.
And that's, we're already kind of that late stage, end stage empire where people don't really respect the Constitution.
They don't really respect, you know, our Bill of Rights.
They don't really care.
You know, this post-constitutional republic that we live in, we're already engaged in it.
And now we're just arguing with how progressive we want our government to be.
That's the only argument.
Do we have extra progressive or just a little bit?
Like, it's like, there's nobody arguing for a return to normalcy, a return to a conservative structure.
And I'm like, I'm not a conservative myself.
kalen dalmeida
I don't think there's any way to get back.
elijah schaffer
No, there isn't.
There actually isn't.
You'd have to create a whole new country.
kalen dalmeida
People call me blackpilled all the time because I just don't believe that door knocking is going to change anything.
elijah schaffer
No, there is.
You're not going to vote your way out of this, period.
Full stop.
And unfortunately, people say, well, why are you doing that?
You're just trying to discourage people.
No, I just don't want you to be unrealistic in your expectations, thinking that the government is so bloated, so inflated, and there's everyone's got compromising shit on them.
You know what I mean?
So, the amount of people that just care about what people think about them is insane.
They didn't say anything about me.
I give a fuck.
Like, people say all types of dumb shit about everybody.
I don't really care personally, but some people out there, like Lindsey Graham, you know what I mean?
Imagine how many dudes' assholes he's blown out, and he and he doesn't want people, he doesn't want that evidence going out there.
So, instead of just knowing that he likes to fuck, he wants the country to fuck, you know, around the world and get us involved in more and more wars to be the little bitch boy for Mossad.
So, you know, you have this, you just have these like, you have these, these, these spineless, you know, fools, you know, and that's like, that's what I'm telling people, stop watching this show.
You guys all should watch Newsmax.
kalen dalmeida
By the way, by the way, Newsmax, speaking of Newsmax, do we have anything?
Newsmax?
elijah schaffer
I don't have any clips.
Oh, oh, yes.
Yes, we do.
kalen dalmeida
Okay.
elijah schaffer
I've always thought that this show was, I've always told you guys this is the best worst show on the internet, right?
I mean, if you guys, well, if you're new to this show, for about the first hour, first hour and 10 minutes, we usually talk, we were way more serious.
We talk about like real topics, we dive into things, and then the second part, we just kind of kick back, have a good time, just shoot the shit a little bit because, you know, whatever.
The show used to be really late, and then I got old and I had kids, so then we moved a little bit earlier.
But I always thought this show was really bad, right?
And I'm like, you know, we might be the worst show on the internet.
But then I saw Newsmax last night and it was tripping me the fuck out, man.
I got to show you some of this stuff.
First of all, let me go down here.
Check out this.
Check out this framing on Rudy Giuliani's show.
Look at this.
kalen dalmeida
This is like a full segment, a full segment of his chin cut off.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, this is like 30.
unidentified
This is a show.
elijah schaffer
It's a 30-minute show.
And some 19-year-old bimbo that's fucking one of the executives probably got a producer job.
She, you know, Stacy got hired for her tight little ass.
And then, you know, everyone forgot to train her.
You know what I mean?
They're busy grooming her, but they forgot to train her in actual her job.
This is what it's like working in media companies.
I'm not joking.
It's like, oh, that person got another 18-year-old hot assistant.
I bet you she's really talented with spreadsheets, you know, spreading something.
But it's like, this is so insane.
No, and this is not even as bad as it gets.
So, first of all, this is humiliating, right?
This is humiliating.
If you had to do a show and this is the framing they put on you, that's crazy.
He's a powerful guy.
He was the fucking mayor of New York.
kalen dalmeida
I've never seen anyone's head so big on the yeah, it's not supposed to be like that.
elijah schaffer
In case you are wondering and you don't know how things are supposed to be, it's not supposed to be like that, okay?
Uh, it gets worse, though.
So, check this out.
It gets absolutely terrible.
So, then this is not even a filter, right?
This is just a weird angle here.
That's what it looked like.
That's what it looked like.
But no, it's actually worse.
So, then, see if I can go down here.
Do we have this stuff?
unidentified
Was it?
elijah schaffer
Oh, wait, what happened?
All the other pictures.
kalen dalmeida
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
Dang, man.
They're there.
Oh, yeah.
Well, then it turned out that the Costco guys were getting canceled.
And I found out why.
unidentified
Oh.
elijah schaffer
The Cosmos getting because they were giving Europa the last battle.
I'll boom.
No, but it was, I don't know where the image is of them like off the screen.
Maybe I didn't put it up onto, maybe I didn't put it up on there.
Maybe I just like ended up uploading it.
unidentified
But like how the Tyler just says alcoholism.
elijah schaffer
That's some good shit.
All right.
I want to look at some more fun stuff since it's the end of the show and I want to talk about something important.
So we don't really talk a lot about Taylor Swift on this show.
And I want to explain that Taylor Swift fans have a disease.
And what happens is, is like when we never talk about her, and I never talk about her fans.
This might even be like the first time in maybe six, seven months we've even mentioned her.
Is when you just make a valid criticism of these weirdos, these like late 20s, early 30s weirdos, childless weirdos, that they say, oh, you're just obsessed with like Taylor Swift and her fans.
And you go, well, first of all, she's like the biggest pop star, I think, in the country.
So whether or not I like her or want to be around her, her music's everywhere.
Secondly, a lot of girls are into her.
That would mean she has a lot of fans.
And she, her ideology has poisoned the minds of so many women, making it think that it's normal to have a body, double-digit body count, no children, and work a career to find happiness.
And she normalizes it.
Now, I saw this video on a rooftop in New York, presumably.
unidentified
check this out so this is like a silent concert All right, so this is when girls say that they have hobbies.
elijah schaffer
It usually either involves getting naked on camera or this.
So what happens is, is they're at this concert, and I made a very interesting point here.
I said, women obsessed with Taylor Swift is a major red flag, almost always late 20s, early 30s, childless, filling their lives with extracurricular activities to fill the void of being alone.
Often choose social media as an outlet, date them, and you pay for their Bo Talks.
Because if you look at these girls, these girls all are like Instagram girls.
They all clearly have Bo Talks.
No, and they couldn't do anything without posting it online.
You know what I mean?
It's the kind of people who have to post everything they do.
And, you know, people were mad in the comments saying, oh, you know, you're obsessed with, you know, Taylor Swift.
Why are you obsessed with her fans?
It's like, I'm not.
I just think that Taylor Swift has helped normalize a very toxic lifestyle for women.
kalen dalmeida
And she's politically active.
unidentified
Yeah.
kalen dalmeida
She's so politically active.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, sexually and politically active.
It's true.
No, but I'm saying like, I brought that up.
I'm just going, like, if a girl's in a Taylor Swift that's an older woman, like older, you know, and girls don't like them.
You call them older women in their late 20s and early 30s, but you're older.
You should have kids.
You should be, she's on your third or fourth kid by the time you hit 30.
Like honestly, you might even want four kids before you're 30.
And you look at this, though, and it's like, if they're into that, I can tell you that they're a toxic woman.
I can tell you if they really like Taylor Swift or a Swifty and into that kind of stuff.
If they're a young girl, they could just be a young girl that's like into a music because young girls, you know, they have a prefrontal cortex may not have developed fully.
There's a stage of life where you have like, you, you identify with exterior things, right?
Like the music you like and the things that sort of that teenage development or adolescence.
Yeah.
But girls that are into Taylor Swift have late stage adolescence.
So they have delayed adolescence.
They're like teenagers, but they're women.
And they can sue you, but they're women.
But they're like, they're like adolescent.
They're like children.
kalen dalmeida
So here's the thing.
I did an MOS video at Taylor Swift's tour on one of her tour dates.
And I asked these girls, would you rather have a night out with Taylor Swift or the 19th Amendment?
And all of them, except for maybe one or two, said that they would rather have a night out with Taylor Swift.
So that might be, you know, an avenue that we can attack.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Because they don't even know what the 19th Amendment is.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Do you see that one guy that walked around and said he really wanted to end women's suffrage because women were suffering?
kalen dalmeida
Wasn't that Mark Dice?
Yes, hilarious.
elijah schaffer
Originally, but a guy recently did it.
That was the OG one.
But he walked in and he's like, he is acting very gay.
And he was like, I'm just, please sign the petition.
And the girl's like, well, he's like, women are suffering everywhere.
And we're trying to end their suffrage.
Would you just help repeal the 19th Amendment to stop women's suffering?
And she's like, I want to end that.
Every girl was like, oh, yeah, I'm into ending suffrage.
And it's like, you know, I actually looked into that, by the way.
One show.
I was like, hey, I want to look into this.
It was a guy in Tennessee.
This is the bullshit.
Okay.
So women being allowed to vote came down to a convention of states, right?
Came down to this vote.
Because that's what you have to do in order to get these amendments ratified.
And it came down to this one guy's vote.
And the moment that I read that he switched it last minute, he was going to vote no, but then said he spoke out verbally, I or in favor against what he was intending to do, I automatically smelled like, you know, matzah balls or something.
You know, I was like, I want to know what's going on, right?
So, so like, no, but I, but I, I, I, I smell something suspicious.
Um, hey, Brian, what's that double cut?
Can we go to that double cut for, I don't know what that is, that, that, us side by side without Shekle Goyenberg there?
Okay.
But, um, uh, but uh, but uh, no, so, so I, like, whenever you hear these, like, like something like that, you obviously have like alarm bells.
Okay, there's like, it was down to one person's vote.
They switched it last minute.
Okay, this doesn't sound like this was a very natural thing, right?
You always, it's a suspicious thing, men voting to have women vote.
That's weird.
And then it ruined the country.
And all of our right-wing influencer women still think that it's good to vote, even though their votes destroy the country.
Like, no, it's still a good idea.
Which shows you that's the trap of like a woman influencer.
She's like, he wants us not to vote.
And you're like, it's not me.
You should want yourself not to vote too.
Like, it's your votes are destroying the country.
Like, genuinely.
But it goes down in the story.
It was like, I Google it first.
I want to hear what the schlop is, right?
Like, what is the official narrative?
And they're like, oh, well, you know, he voted because his mama, and I'm like, oh, fuck, we're using the phrase as mama.
Like, you know, this is some gay fucking shit some fag wrote.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, I'm like, it's like, it's like stupid shit.
And it's like, you know, his mom said like he was going to vote no and it wasn't going to be ratified because like the majority of people like didn't want it and they needed one more state.
And then it's like, mama like wrote him a letter and was like, make me proud, son, or whatever.
unidentified
And like, you damn give women the right to vote or whatever.
elijah schaffer
And then he like switched last minute to make his mama proud.
And I go, first of all, gay.
Second of all, that sounds like a load of fucking shit.
So then I'm like, this sounds like maybe someone was blackmailed last minute.
Like there was, they were under threat or duress.
Like, and it said like they nervously switched their vote last minute or whatever.
And so, you know, when I looked into it, it essentially people, I started seeing people like, this story is not actually true.
Like I started seeing the counterintelligence and people are like, you know, it's commonly accepted.
This is what happened.
And I'm just going to say, go look it up for your guys.
Go look it up yourselves.
Go look up how we got women voting.
And it looks like there were some very pesky, pesky, pesky people involved in getting us getting women the right to vote in America, getting the liberalization of the country.
And once women could vote, this is not an anti-woman rant, by the way.
This is a genuine thing.
The reason why we can't vote our way out of this is because we have too many minorities in America and women vote.
And if you look at electoral maps, if you look at electoral maps of how things would look if only minorities or women voted, the country's almost entirely blue.
So almost every, it's a landslide.
I want to bring it up.
I can bring it up actually.
You get down to a point to where, let me see, Instagram official site.
Can we get in here?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Oh, it's giving me a.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
elijah schaffer
Oh, it's asking for my Australian number.
I can't go in there.
But yeah, so it's like, it's unfortunate.
But like, I'm telling people, they brought in more minorities than ever.
And as long as legal immigration, like, Trump's like, we've got to bring in more immigrants.
Well, immigrants don't vote Republican, okay?
They just don't.
They don't vote Republican.
Indians don't vote Republican.
They don't vote right-wing.
They're not nationalists.
You know what I mean?
I mean, if we allowed them to poop in our beaches, they might be into it.
We should be like, Trump should just be racist to get like, hey, we're going to let you poop at all the beaches.
unidentified
And then India's like, oh, whatever.
elijah schaffer
And that's how that's, you know?
Hell yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
They love that.
kalen dalmeida
They love shitting in public.
You know, have you seen the food they eat?
I think they like to eat it too.
elijah schaffer
You know, dude, the poop, dude, they are stinky.
You know what I mean?
Like, and it's, I like, uh, someone's like, why do there was so much hate to uh on the Indians recently?
And it's like, I think it's just because they're stinky a little bit.
And then they also like, they also like just, yeah, they also are the horniest motherfuckers in the entire world.
Indians are so horny.
kalen dalmeida
It's very interesting.
I think that, I think that it's their culture to like just not control themselves.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
kalen dalmeida
They have zero self-control.
elijah schaffer
They like masturbate in buses and stuff.
It's pretty, pretty epic, actually.
I'm like, it's like, dude, they're just raw dogging it, bro.
Like, I've all watched videos.
There's like families and they're just like yanking the, they're cranking the yank.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm like, damn.
And like, and nobody really seems phased.
You know what I mean?
Everyone's like, oh, it's just Umar or whatever.
You know, it's just Bagda.
You know, like, he's just the local, it's a four o'clock crankshaft, you know, cranker or whatever.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't feel like they come across too much like they're, but they care.
kalen dalmeida
I saw a video recently on X, formerly known as Twitter, of a man calling out these what appeared to be maybe like Indians or Middle Easterns, right?
Filming this man's children, right?
His daughters at the beach.
He goes, What are you doing?
What the hell are you doing?
No, I don't care if you're deleting the video.
You shouldn't be doing that.
elijah schaffer
And they're like, oh, I don't know.
kalen dalmeida
I don't speak English.
Of course you don't.
Of course you don't.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, Bob's in Virginia.
Don't be mean to the people who say Bob's and Virginia.
I'll be as mean as I motherfucking want.
Listen, I'm going to tell you this.
The Indians don't get enough hate, okay?
They really don't.
And if you're an Indian and you watch the show, just so you know, I speak hyperbolically.
And if very soon, this show is going to start out with a warning that says, warning everything in this episode is a joke, something like this.
I'm writing it right now.
It's like warning, nothing is said is just true.
It's all just a lie.
And everything I'm saying is just hyperbolic to be funny.
And it's just going to put at the front because we, I think it's for education.
kalen dalmeida
It's for education.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, to stay on the air.
For this show to be able to stay up as things get worse.
Like, my racism goes up like every year a little bit more.
You know what I mean?
Like, I.
kalen dalmeida
I can tell, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Yeah.
It goes up a little bit only because I find new groups.
I'm like, hey, more people to hate, you know?
But no, I'm just fucking kidding.
No, no, no.
I'm totally joking.
I just find humor in talking shit, you know, and I'm like, like that.
That's why people say, I hate black people.
I'm like black people because black people like to give each other a hard time.
You know what I mean?
kalen dalmeida
We're laughing with a black guy today.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, literally.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Black people like to give.
You know who they like to give the hardest time?
kalen dalmeida
Other black people.
elijah schaffer
No, our nation's society and culture.
You know what I mean?
Oh, wow.
They've been giving us a hard time for a long time.
I'm just going to say, you know, picking cotton, you know, probably wasn't the hardest job in the world.
I wouldn't be complaining about it.
You know what I mean?
Sounds like it was like a vacation.
Got to hang out in the sun.
Millennials pay to do that shit now, like pick apples and shit.
Millennials are literally like paying money to do what you guys complained about.
So no, I'm kidding.
I'm fucking around.
I don't even know what that's what they always quote.
It's like Elijah said slavery seemed fun.
It's like, I'm just joking around.
I don't mean any of that.
But what I do think is crazy is in retrospect, bringing this back.
Man, we're getting fucking way off the rails here for no reason.
unidentified
Yeah, bring it back in.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Read it in there.
Yeah, No, this is all just someone said, live, laugh, get raped.
Okay, that's not funny.
That's not funny.
Not funny.
We're bringing it back.
We're taking the show seriously to the very serious show, right?
I'm bringing this back to something serious, okay?
I want to look at a profile of someone named Barry Stanton.
unidentified
Oh.
elijah schaffer
Do you know about this guy?
kalen dalmeida
I do.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so I don't know who he is, but do you know who Barry Stanton is?
So this blows my mind that this account is allowed to exist.
I don't understand.
Okay.
And not because I push for censorship at all, but it blows my mind.
Barry Stanton used to have a picture of himself with Hitler's mustache, and they made him remove it.
You know that the mustache is against terms of service.
This guy posts the most insane stuff.
And like everyone I know follows him.
And I don't know how he gets away with it.
You know what I mean?
kalen dalmeida
Is it the British server, maybe?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, like, that's what I was going to say.
My suggestion was because, like, you know, he posted this.
You know, one man is waging war against a country with a population of 1.4 billion and it's a thing of beauty.
Pooja Sanguan.
Pooja Sanguan.
That's intense.
Said, either ignore this Barry Stanton shit to the extreme that it saturates itself or just outrage it to that extreme that Elon Musk himself take action against this anti-Jew, anti-Hindu, India, and anti-black account.
And then he responded, you are literally called Pooja.
kalen dalmeida
It's crazy.
unidentified
You are literally...
elijah schaffer
That is crazy.
Oh my gosh.
There's more.
Do you guys?
I don't know if you guys want to see more.
There's more.
There's more from this page.
It's like it is crazy that this.
unidentified
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
Where can we bring this up here?
Yeah, here we go.
Thank you, Brian.
Brian in real time is changing our scenes here.
Thank you for that.
Like, this guy just straight up posts like Nazi war video.
And like, you know, I got in trouble and demonetized for like sharing a news article.
And this guy just like straight up just like shares like pro-Hitler videos, you know?
And it's like, Indian Space Program.
unidentified
It's censored.
Look at his look at his lapels.
elijah schaffer
Look at his lipos.
unidentified
How does this guy not get dude?
Oh, very.
elijah schaffer
Oh, my gosh.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
I want to see.
Someone said I follow him too.
You guys don't follow him.
This guy is crazy.
unidentified
All right.
He's got closer to him.
Indian women for you.
It's coming.
What?
Shit, all of the shit map.
elijah schaffer
Dude, this is crazy, man.
unidentified
That was a picture of San Francisco.
Dude, what the heck?
Oh, I should follow Devin Stack.
elijah schaffer
I didn't even know he was on Twitter.
All right.
Oh, I didn't know, but I don't know what Hindu.
unidentified
Oh, my dude, this is crazy.
elijah schaffer
You notice when they write articles on Switzerland, like then they proceeded to show like racist images of Indians for like 40 minutes, you know?
unidentified
I'm not, dude.
elijah schaffer
I'm just saying this is what.
unidentified
Let me get his mic though real fast.
Let me see.
I can get that back.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I can get his mic off.
That's crazy, right?
This guy's crazy.
It's Hindu nothing.
It's the Hindu god, Hindu Nothing.
That's crazy.
Barry Stanton said, I guess he's thinking about free speech.
I don't think this is a real person.
Said, if India sent 1 million people to every country on the earth, just under 200, there would still be about 1.2 billion of them left in India.
Let that sink in.
That's wild.
Said her, I love dogs.
Everything they do is awesome.
Indian guy trying to impress her.
I also shit outside.
This guy really hates Indians, huh?
Please clean up after your Pajit.
This is really wild.
unidentified
Why is a picture of Ian Miles Chong on here?
elijah schaffer
That's crazy.
Why is this?
What's up with everyone's movie?
I don't have a problem with that guy.
Retweet if you agree.
This is pretty intense stuff, right?
kalen dalmeida
He's like a full-blown.
He's probably not from Britain.
unidentified
India stands with Israel in a wheelchair.
elijah schaffer
Dude, that's crazy.
Thank God for not me.
kalen dalmeida
Dude, why is this?
elijah schaffer
Does anyone know why it's I don't know?
I mean, this is just like this is crazy.
Indians when they are graced by the presence of whites, when whites are violated by the presence of Indians, I mean, this is a very racist, you know, page here.
But on the flip side, he doesn't get censored at all.
And I.
kalen dalmeida
I think racism is funny, dude.
unidentified
Yeah, me.
elijah schaffer
Well, me too.
I think you've got to enjoy it.
An article recently quoted me and said, Elijah said that he thinks everyone should be racist because it's a hell of a lot of fun.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah, not everyone already was, though.
elijah schaffer
Everyone is racist.
kalen dalmeida
So like people who write that, right?
unidentified
Like people who write that don't know that everyone's racist.
elijah schaffer
Well, they're racist against white people.
They just have the accepted class of, like, they're just anti-white, which is, which is an accepted form of discrimination.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
This is such good water.
I know people say I shouldn't drink smart water, but it's my favorite water.
And they don't have this in Australia, and I've been buying it every day.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
I'm very happy about this.
unidentified
Wow.
kalen dalmeida
I like Icelandic water.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well.
And all of us are rich.
All right.
Kind of taking the tide there.
Shout out to everyone who's been in the chat for that weird ending to a great show.
On Friday, we're going to be doing another show.
Just a reminder, you guys, there is an exclusive episode dropping only on censor TV tomorrow.
It's a one-on-one with Andrew Tates and Tristan Tate's lawyer talking about what's really going on, what the accusations are.
Not from the media.
This is not from random people.
This is talking to the lawyer directly.
I shot it today.
It's going to be released tomorrow.
It's exclusive for censored TV members and supporters.
But I encourage you to check it out.
I do encourage you to check it out because it is really good.
And, you know, ask them some tough questions.
Like, you know, do the Andrew Tate, if they deny any type of illegal activity, do they also admit that the, you know, with sort of like luring and tricking men into masturbating stuff, do they feel like they did unethical things that may not be illegal, but are like embarrassing or unethical?
Like, do they at least would they at least admit in court that they did unethical things to men, you know, type of thing?
And I was asking these questions because they're the things people want to know.
And I like Tristan, and I don't know Andrew.
I've talked with Tristan a little bit.
But I know that, like, you know, I understand one of the things we were just to give a little insight we were talking about.
He's like, you got to remember these kids who grew up in the projects.
These aren't like clean-cut, like, Christian kids.
They came from, like, they've been changing and becoming better men, but like, they didn't do anything illegal, you saying.
But yeah, they like, you know, like gang members will like gangbang and sell drugs and stuff.
And then they learn later in life, they become philanthropists and start investing in their community, talking about Snoop Dogg and stuff, try to become better people, right?
Family men or whatever.
These guys may not have been ethical, you know, in terms of Christian values and things, but they've obviously changed a lot in recent years and they've been trying to improve and get closer to God and do different things.
So, you know, whether you love the Tates or hate them, it is interesting.
And I'm going to try to keep finding good finds like that.
I thought that was a good get to get their attorney to come talk.
And he laid it down.
It was a really good interview.
It's about 30 minutes, so it's not even too long.
You can listen because I can only get 30 minutes of time.
But it is an excellent interview, and you should listen to it there.
Anyway, if you people are watching this and someone asked me when is Fleck is Fleck is I think I think he might be coming down in September.
I think he's coming down maybe end of September or end of October.
Like, yeah, we're like, yeah, so he'll be coming with Richard a rap boy, which will be a fantastic thing.
Shout out to my guest tonight.
Can you guys hear those horns?
By the way, I don't know if they can hear that.
unidentified
I don't know, dude.
elijah schaffer
Could you guys hear those horns?
Yes.
And Ben is coming.
Ben is coming to America end of October.
And so Ben will be on the show for like a couple of weeks, I think.
I think he'll just.
Yeah, from Australia.
Very, very, very, very good friend.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Like, like a brother from another country.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I love that, bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I love him a lot.
I miss him and we keep missing each other.
What a good time.
So yeah, that's there.
Anyway, shout out.
If people want to find you and follow you, Kaylin, how can they support you?
kalen dalmeida
Well, you're going to let me tell them.
elijah schaffer
Go ahead.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah.
unidentified
You can find me on X. Go ahead.
kalen dalmeida
You can find me on X. You can find me on Instagram at from Kaylin, F-R-O-M-K-A-L-E-N.
unidentified
That's it.
kalen dalmeida
It's very simple.
elijah schaffer
It is true.
It is very simple.
And you can follow me on Telegram, on Instagram, on Annie Gram, on this Gram, or you can find me in Vegas with a Gram or three.
unidentified
Oh.
elijah schaffer
No, you can.
I don't, I can't do drugs anymore.
I honestly can't.
I can't even, like, I can't.
I've talked about this on the show.
There isn't one of the reasons why I can't do drugs, not only because I have kids and I can't be doing drugs, which is like, but you'll say, what about like a boys trip or whatever?
Well, I'm trying to grow.
I'm trying to mature in other areas, but also like when you get old and you do blow or like you like do something like that, you don't recover very well.
Like, like if I were, if like, like the last time I did cocaine, I think I think I just like didn't feel myself for like five days.
You know what I mean?
Like I didn't like the sixth day, I started to feel like normal again.
And like, I can't live a life where I'm like, that's why I'm like, I don't know how I have a lot of colleagues or ex-colleagues and people that do like Coke on like a daily basis, you know?
kalen dalmeida
That's their favorite thing.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I know.
I know a lot of people just constantly, I mean, because they're rich and they just do a lot of blow.
I know a lot of people with blow habits.
I never had a habit, but I used to do it says in a party or whatever.
Right.
And I don't know how I used to do it because I can't.
And the last time I did, I was just like, okay, I'm not doing this again.
I literally can't do this again.
And I know some people say that when they party and they're like, oh, I'll never do this again.
It's like, no, I literally can't have that where you, it's like six in the morning and the birds are chirping and you can't go to sleep.
And, you know, it's like, you're like horny, but you can't get your dick card.
And it's like a terrible feeling.
You know what I mean?
And it's like, and then you're like, you feel far from God and you don't like you.
God doesn't want you doing that.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
elijah schaffer
So it's like, it's just, it's just a bad situation.
If you're gonna have fun, you know, enjoy the time.
But I'd say leave the blow out of the partying.
And a lot more people do it than people admit to, by the way, when they're partying.
You know, they'll just like hit a couple lines, you know?
kalen dalmeida
I believe that.
I believe that.
I have a few friends who enjoy it from time to time.
And I've only tried it one time, and that was it.
That was it for me.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it was tonight on the show.
No, I'm just gonna know.
No, you did perk up, though, from the before stuff.
I did.
I noticed that it worked.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah, I came back and I was like, whoa.
elijah schaffer
I told you just about an hour, three minutes to an hour, and then it gives you that.
It gives you like a nice constant energy.
kalen dalmeida
Yeah, it's constant energy.
But for me, like anything that like would normally probably affect someone like in a more dramatic way in terms of like a stim or a nootropic, I find that it's like very calming.
It's like very calming to me.
And I like get in the zone.
So I came back and I was like, in the zone.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that's the stuff.
Remember to just check that out, guys, the before stuff.
You guys got to get some from, I think it's, we have the screen up there.
Make sure you pick some of that up.
They're a new sponsor, and it's a product I was already using before.
So we got them at ramphealth.co slash slightly offensive.
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It's like energy that doesn't give you anxiety.
So that's why I like it because I'm already like, I'm like high-strung person.
You don't even want to see me on Coke.
And that's what it said.
I love people in chat are just like, me and Elijah did blow together once.
There's so many people in the chat.
People believe them too.
It's like, yeah, actually, I was in college and me and Elijah used to kiss each other.
You're like, it's on the touch.
kalen dalmeida
It's like, really?
elijah schaffer
And it's like schizo man.
Like, it's like rape Groyper 69, 420 or something like that.
You know, it's like, yeah, you, you think rape Groyper is a really reliable source of information in the chat there, sir?
unidentified
Well, yeah.
kalen dalmeida
I mean, I could write in the chat right now that like you and I just did something on camera that didn't happen.
elijah schaffer
And it did.
kalen dalmeida
And no, but then people would believe it.
They would believe it.
They'd be watching the show and they would believe it.
elijah schaffer
We did it once.
Someone said Elijah blew me once.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
We're not reading that anymore.
Shout out to everyone in the chat and in the locals.
Just want to look out, see how the locals people are doing.
You guys are amazing.
Shout out to everybody who's in there.
Saint J, Doomsday Cracker.
We have, I don't know what's going on in here.
We have Doomsday Cracker who's just sharing pictures of Ian Miles Chong, Marina Mack, and the rest of the people who are there, dumb A55.
And someone sent a picture of the back of the hair of JD Vance.
It's the back of his hair.
kalen dalmeida
That's really bad.
Holy shit.
elijah schaffer
Oh, yeah.
kalen dalmeida
That's like really bad.
elijah schaffer
That's the presidency.
You know what?
I don't understand how you can be that rich and still not be in shape.
You know what I mean?
kalen dalmeida
I'd get a personal trainer if I just had a few more dollars.
I would just pay a shit.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but he's really rich in terms of like he could literally like have a private chef travel with him and make him healthy meals.
You know, because I was going to say, I'll talk about another show.
I just started this week accidentally only eating one meal a day.
Yeah.
unidentified
Like 24 hours ago.
elijah schaffer
And I think it's, no, it's been like three days.
Are you sure?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
You've been here for a while.
Yeah, but I just ran just been eating one meal and I've been feeling better.
Like I get more shit done, but I'm a little bit irritable towards the meal, like the hour before.
Yeah, it's all kind of irritable.
kalen dalmeida
That's all I can think about.
Like the last hour before I eat is like all I can think about is food.
elijah schaffer
Absolutely.
unidentified
I want to look at this.
What does that want to say?
What?
Fart, fart, Cool.
Yeah, that's a...
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Let's not do spam, people.
Let's not.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So that's, yeah, let's not spam the chat at all, period.
Because I don't think that's good.
But shout out to everyone who stayed for the whole show.
It's been amazing.
Shout out to Brian, who was helping out live, getting everything going.
We really appreciate it.
It's been amazing.
And it's been awesome.
Holy shit.
Is Dan Bilzerian in, is he here right now?
No, he's in Vegas.
Okay.
Myron's in Vegas, so that's what that looks like.
It's like the interview.
But shout out to everyone who's here.
It's been a great show.
We've really appreciated having you around.
It's been amazing.
We'll talk to you all again soon.
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
Thank you so much again for supporting.
Shout out to my guest, Kaylin.
Hold up.
Amazing gentleman there.
Thank you guys for supporting the show.
We'll see you tomorrow on Censored with a new episode and also on Friday night.
This upcoming Friday, the show will be late.
So the show is like at 10.30 p.m.
Friday nights are late night shows.
So we got a late night show.
So make sure you take a nap and stuff and get ready for that because we have a late night show this Friday at 10.30 p.m. Eastern Time.
We'll see you there for Slightly Offensive, the best worst show on the internet.
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
Thank you so much again for watching.
Have a great rest of the week.
And as I always say, may God bless the United States of America.
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