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WHY Are JEWS Making SECRET Tunnels in NYC? | Guests: Mersh & Royce of ROTC + Baptist Bias

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elijah schaffer
Well, we've got a great show for you today.
Before we get started talking about the secret Jewish tunnels of New York City, Brian, if you could bring my screen up full screen here, I just want to give a shout out to a massive debate that's happening on Rumble on X and on censored TV.
This is a slightly offensive debate.
Nick Fuentes versus Gavin McGinnis with Adam King and Vincent James on the Zionist power question and its influence and role in the world.
If you love this kind of conversation, if you want to be there, make sure Thursday, January 11th, 10 p.m. Eastern Time.
Links, of course, are on X and anywhere else you can find them anyway.
My name is Elijah Schaefer and welcome back to Nightly Offensive.
We are talking about the tunnels underneath the city of New York that have been discovered and suddenly been covered up.
And to talk about this, I'd like to welcome to Nightly Offensive for the first time my guests today, Mersh and Royce from the Revenge of the Cis podcast slash show.
Royce, let's start with you.
Let's go ahead and introduce yourself.
Tell people who you are, what you do, while you're on the show.
royce lopez
Well, I'm Royce Lopez.
Merch and I have been doing Revenge of the Cis for like six years now.
mike mersh schiele
Far too long.
royce lopez
So a podcast that was kicked, well, a show, but I call it a podcast was kicked off of YouTube.
And now we're on Rumble exclusively, doing pretty well, being able to get away with murder over there.
So yeah, that's pretty much what I'm doing.
mike mersh schiele
Getting paid on time.
royce lopez
Getting paid on time, which is great.
I like YouTube.
Yes, yes, yes.
elijah schaffer
Merch, let's go ahead and you're a co-host here.
Go ahead and introduce yourself as well.
mike mersh schiele
I am Mersh.
I am the other half of I'm the handsome one from Revenge of the Sis.
And we can find us on Rumble four to six every day, Monday to Friday.
And, you know, we're happy.
We like it here at Rumble.
We actually have been doing the best shows we've ever done in our lives.
So watch Revenge of the Cyst.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And as we'll find out later, you guys are not being a Rob Smith, as I've heard recently on your show.
So that's pretty good, right?
royce lopez
We're doing great.
That's a low bar.
It's not many people are Rob Smiths, you know, but when they are, they are really hard Rob Smiths.
mike mersh schiele
Our chat room is a no Rob Smith zone.
elijah schaffer
And we'll find out what that means later.
Of course, we have Jonathan Shelley from the Baptist Bias.
Jonathan, you've been on the show before.
You can watch his previous episode.
Go ahead and introduce yourself.
Why are you here?
And why the hell are you here in Australia?
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, it's great to be here in the studio.
And I was actually visiting one of my friends, New Life Baptist Church, Pastor Kevin Sapolveda.
Also, I'm going to the Philippines on missions trip and we're sitting at Evangelist over there.
So we're just here in the land down under, trying to survive all the spiders, scorpions, and snakes.
elijah schaffer
Dude, is this the worst show to have a pastor on?
royce lopez
Honestly, the best because we're going to need forgiveness at the end.
mike mersh schiele
I mean, really, I mean, you're supposed to go where the sinners are, right?
royce lopez
Right.
So if anything, yeah.
mike mersh schiele
I'll give you plenty of that.
pastor jonathan shelley
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
We will have plenty of that.
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All right, I'm joined in the studio by my guests today.
We got Royce and Marsh.
We got Jonathan Shelley.
We're talking about the Jewish tunnels, which a lot of people have been interested about today.
And I want to start by just bringing up something really important.
I want to talk about the fact that no matter what happens in the world, we can count on the Simpsons and South Park nearly as much as we can count on God himself to give us predictions on what's going to happen in the world.
People mock these shows.
They try to ban them.
Let's go ahead and bring this up.
This was South Park several years ago.
I know it's low quality, discussing the very important issue of Jewish tunnels.
unidentified
Listen.
The answer is obvious, my friends.
It is the Jews, covetous Jews, who have taken all our money and holded it for themselves, hidden all the cash in some secret Jew cave that they built, probably back in the early 60s.
Okay.
elijah schaffer
Ironic or not, if you guys haven't been living anywhere, Royce, Marsh, you guys can jump in, start here.
I know you guys know what's going on.
Can you give a background to people?
I'm going to put a video on the screen while you're talking on what the hell has gone on in the last couple of days with this discovery of secret Jewish tunnels that are totally normal and nobody should question.
And they're just, everyone's got them.
They're everywhere and there's nothing weird about it.
What do you know about it?
royce lopez
Somebody called them landlord spawn points and it killed me.
That's a great description.
No, honestly, the truth is not a lot of people know this.
During the Crown Heights riots, people planted jewel seeds and they finally took growth.
Now they're growing.
That's what happens.
That's what I know.
I mean, but I could be completely misinformed.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm from New York.
It was unbelievable to me.
Like having seen and experienced it all growing up in New York, even I was just like, are they, are they, are they crawling out of sewers and scurrying away from the camera?
Like, what is what has happened?
By the way, not the best, not the best imagery if you're trying to shatter stereotypes.
royce lopez
Well, Merch said it today on today.
Merch said it on today's show.
He goes, you know, somebody at the ADL threw their computer across the office going, come on, now I got to cover this up.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, I mean, it's seriously, if I drew a picture of a Jewish man, a cynic Jewish man crawling out of a sewer grate, CNN would dox my whole family.
royce lopez
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Jonathan, I got to bring this up.
Okay, so we've got to actually talk about this.
So to give the real context to this, because we are going to go down the very deep and dark trenches, no pun intended, of the secret Jew tunnels of New York City and talk about this.
So there is a synagogue that took that is in New York.
And basically, apparently, several months ago while doing renovations, people had discovered a secret network of tunnels that was ended up originating back at the synagogue itself.
And there were entry spawn points, as Mersh and Roy said, where I like this, I sound like the biggest anti-Semite saying this.
And maybe, you know, maybe it's true at this point because I don't know how else to say it.
Jews were crawling out of gutters.
royce lopez
I can't, man.
I know.
The problem is, look, man, this is stuff that if we would have joked about it like in 2017, we would have been on a watch list.
But you are accurately describing a news story.
And it's so funny to me.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah.
I mean, a Jewish man literally crawling out of a sewer grate like a rat and scurrying away.
And if you say that again, you'd be fired.
They'd get you fired.
They'd find out who your family members are.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, when you saw this, though, Jonathan, I mean, you saw this.
This is, like I said, this is one of those things that it sounds bad saying it because it sounds like you're being rude to people, but it's like, it's just like describing a black guy popping 20, 20 rounds into a woman's head at a stoplight.
It sounds like an evil thing to do until you realize that's called a Tuesday in Los Angeles County.
It's a strange thing to literally see videos of people not telling you it's anti-Semitic to say Jews are crawling out of sewers.
You're anti-Semitic to think it's weird.
pastor jonathan shelley
Obviously, they're just teenage mutant ninja turtles and they're coming out of the sewers with Master Splinter to save the world.
So, you know, everybody thinks they're ruling the world, but really they're just ruling the sewers.
So there you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And so to kind of give background, what is crazy about this?
And we're going to look at some of the best takes, some of the worst takes on this issue.
The reason why I want to discuss this is because a new story pops up out of the middle of nowhere.
Sewers discovered leading to underground tunnel system that originate at a Shabbat synagogue.
Jews are rioting, attacking police to preserve and protect the tunnel system.
And that's where we start out, right?
We have to look at the facts here because here it's slightly offensive.
People know three things about the show.
We care about political correctness, blowing cover for the black community and fighting anti-Semitism.
And that is our top three priorities here.
So when we get those together and we look at a story like this, it's difficult to want to cover it because this would insinuate that there are Jewish people in a state in America that are up to no good, which is just really difficult for me to kind of grasp with everything that I know about history and life that this is a crazy story.
And I honestly thought it was a prank.
I'm not going to lie.
Royce Merch, Jonathan, I thought I was being choked.
Someone said this to me like, hey, Jews creating tunnels under New York City.
I was like, well, this is Babylon, the Babylon B.
And you see these videos here.
The tunnels are actually covered by wood paneling.
And it turned out there's this extensive network of underground rooms.
And before we even go to the explanation of what these are for, the good, the bad, and the ugly, I just want to get your honest initial understanding, guys, of like what you think this is.
Because I don't want to give any bias here of what people are saying it is.
Let's just start with Jonathan here.
Like, what do you think this is?
Like, when you initially hear about this, you see the images without the bias, without the headlines, without the stories, underground tunnel system with cut sewers leading to drop points in front of a children's museum.
pastor jonathan shelley
You know, a lot of times children ask their parents, where do babies come from?
And I guess this is where Jews come from.
But, you know, honestly, the Bible has an interesting story in Ezekiel chapter number eight, where Ezekiel is actually picked up by his hair by God and taken to the temple.
And I just want to read a verse or two here just because it's pretty interesting.
He has Ezekiel kind of dig at this particular wall.
It says in Ezekiel chapter eight, verse eight.
Then said he unto me, son of man, dig now in the wall.
And when I had digged in the wall, behold, a door.
And he said unto me, go in and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.
So I went in and saw and behold every form of creeping things and abominable beasts and all the idols of the house of Israel portrayed upon the wall round about.
And there stood before them 70 men of the ancients of the house of Israel.
And in the midst of them stood Jazzaniah the son of Shaphan with every man his censer in his hand and a thick cloud of incense went up.
Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark?
Every man in the chambers of his imagery?
For they say, the Lord seeth us not, the Lord hath forsaken the earth.
So there's actually a story in the Bible where the Jews are hiding in tunnels under the temple, and they're basically worshiping false gods, doing all kinds of wicked abominations, satanic practices.
And I wonder if there is a parallel here to these Jewish tunnels in New York.
That was really, it just kind of blew me away when I thought about that interesting parallel that we have here in the scripture that seemed like they're doing the same thing they did in the past.
unidentified
That's weird.
elijah schaffer
Dude, look, the weird thing is, is I didn't know this was a stereotype.
I also like want to be careful here in the fact that this is, we're just talking about a story.
Like, like, I want to clarify, like, the fact that people have called me anti-Semitic, hateful, all these things for literally like playing videos of what people are actually doing.
It kind of does remind me a little bit of like the COVID deniers today, where you literally like tell them, like, hey, you forced us to get vaccines.
And they're like, no, we didn't.
And you're like, well, here's a video of people forcing us to get vaccines.
Or here's an example of the military.
And they're like, once you confront them with the evidence, they're just like, hey, are you a conspiracy theorist?
And I'm like going crazy in my head because I'm watching these people with an underground tunnel system.
And people are like, I will look at the bad takes.
The right wing's best response was, this is the problem with Gen Z. Everyone knows Gen Z doesn't listen to authority.
They're just, they did an underground secret mining operation under the synagogue because everyone knows when you leave teenagers unattended, what do they start doing?
Either jerking off or building intricate tunnels of mass mining operations underneath religious centers.
Those are like the two most common things.
But Mersh and Royce, I mean, obviously you guys are known to be very balanced individuals.
You guys are highly respected in the Orthodox church and in religious orders and stuff.
And so I've brought you on here, especially, you know, I heard too, which one of you guys got voted best dressed of 2023?
royce lopez
Oh, that would be Mersch.
elijah schaffer
Oh, good.
royce lopez
Well, congratulations.
He has cat pants and they're really true.
mike mersh schiele
I have cat pants.
They call me Flex Luger.
royce lopez
But also, I'll say this: much like the COVID stuff, Ben Shapiro's take is also horrible on this.
Well, I mean, nothing, which is normal.
mike mersh schiele
I haven't even seen it.
I just assumed it is.
royce lopez
Because there was all these people.
I saw exactly what you're talking about.
There was all these people that were, they were like, they were calling him up and like, how come a censored man, I think, posted, how come all these people aren't saying anything about it?
I think Ashley St. Clair came out.
She's like, oh, because it's not that interesting.
And I was like, excuse me.
mike mersh schiele
It's very interesting.
royce lopez
If Orthodox Jews coming out of sewers in New York isn't interesting to you, what is interesting to you?
Because this is the most interesting story I have ever, ever seen.
And you're right.
They're calling out a rascally Gen Z's.
A couple of things.
That video you play when they were tearing down the plywood.
Maybe the guy getting arrested shouldn't dance to keep adding to the stereotype.
Probably a good idea, right?
Because there's already stereotypes.
mike mersh schiele
There weren't even any skyscrapers falling.
royce lopez
Okay.
Well, yet, but we don't know the structural integrity of that.
pastor jonathan shelley
They didn't find the gold either.
royce lopez
And all these people who like who are making up poor Gen Z or if there are Palestinian tunnels underneath anywhere in New York, these same people would be freaking out, losing their minds, saying we need a drone strike Iran.
So they're pretending like, oh, yeah, I know the only the biggest problem here is that I feel bad for mold people because they're going to think they're Jewish.
And that sucks for them, you know?
elijah schaffer
By the way, I just want to point that out.
Like Ashley St. Clair and a lot of people in New York who are saying it doesn't matter.
If this was a Palestinian tunnel, New York would no longer exist, right?
We would have made sure we killed it, but we'd have double checked that there was enough children on the island before making sure we dropped the bombs because that's that seems to be that seems to be by the way, I want to say that's not funny, but they've killed like 30,000 people, 30,000 people.
And the leadership of Hamas was in Doha.
A lot of them are currently in Iran.
And they recently started assassinating the leadership of Hamas, proving they could have targeted the leadership of Hamas and not the people.
But they waited till they've killed over 30,000 innocent civilians.
And then they, by the way, shared recently that they have to keep bombing because of these poor girls that are hostages, which are actually soldiers, which is not good.
I'm not into women fighting on the front lines anyway.
I think that's a sick barbaric practice to put women on frontline bases in wild places.
But you guys were saying, I mean, I think we have one more to go on what you were thinking about this.
I'm angry at this story because I don't know if you guys get this.
I'm angry at this timeline because I don't want to talk about Jewish stuff.
I don't even, I don't want to talk about it because everyone's got to fucking, you know, stick up their ass with what they think.
Either somebody hates the Jews, they love the Jews, the Jews can do no wrong, or all the Jews do are good.
I just think they're human beings.
And, you know, I think there's a lot of separate issues that are going on in the world.
But like the last thing I wanted in the world was to wake up with Jews crawling out of sewer tunnels.
Like, I don't want that.
You know what I mean?
That's not what I wanted to talk about.
But I have to question it because they look at you, like you said, and they go, what do you mean?
What do you mean?
A secret tunnel network of wealthy people crawling out of sewer grates?
Is that interesting to you?
And like you said, you go, actually, it is.
It's probably one of the most interesting things I've heard my entire life, actually.
It's actually at the top of the list.
I've never seen this in the United States, maybe since like the Prohibition era or in movies.
And I'm fascinated to understand how long this existed, the extent to which it goes, who's connected to this, where the drop points are, why they're there, if this is the only synagogue, if this is the only religion, right?
Let's not make it just a racial issue.
Is this something bigger?
Are these old tunnels that were connected to a different network and they were co-opted by groups and movements?
Did they mine into them?
Like, what the hell is going on?
And when people immediately, and this is my red flag, when people immediately, number one, have a narrative, like they tell you, this was for COVID.
When they don't even know, they just start saying it.
Or when you say, wait, I want to know the answer.
I don't even say I know what they're for.
I'm not even suggesting it was there for a nefarious reason.
I have no idea at first.
I have no clue.
They go, you cannot question this.
And whenever someone says you cannot question something that is suspicious upon it going on the internet, when I'm watching the videos, I'm like, I'm getting the 9-11 vibes, you know, October 7th, Israel vibes, COVID-19 vibes, like the same kind of bullying from these people.
Because I don't know if people can remember on October 7th, you had the managing editor of Breitbart coming to literally like basically nuke Gaza and kill millions of people.
And that was okay.
That was allowed on Twitter even.
You could allow that on X.
That was totally fine.
And then like a week later, he back walked it back.
I was like, by the way, you know, when I got the best of me, you know, when you're just like celebrating the Sabbath and then you just call the genocide a nation of people.
mike mersh schiele
That happens to all of us, bro.
royce lopez
Happens to all of us, bro.
That happens to all of us.
Sometimes you're celebrating a holy holiday and you're like, man, I wish you were killing a bunch of babies right now.
That happens to me like all the time, like on Arbor Day.
mike mersh schiele
Look, this is this whole conversation is taking a really anti-Semitic bent.
We all know that noticing things and observing things is anti-Semitic.
Okay.
We don't know that they could have been hiding from Trump supporters or Nazis in those tunnels.
We don't know.
All I know is that observing the behavior of Jewish people is anti-Semitic the same way it's racist to fairly grade a black kid's report in school.
So, you know, it is what it is.
royce lopez
Teaching a black kid math in Seattle is now illegal.
mike mersh schiele
That is holding anyone to account anywhere in the world now is attacking those people.
elijah schaffer
Well, I want to ask Jonathan, you know, with some of the images, I want to freeze frame some of this stuff.
We can bring this up on the screen here, Brian.
Some of the things that people brought up here, right, in the tunnels, let's talk about what the tunnels are for.
Our best guess, I want to get conspiratorial here.
The prevading narratives were that they were to either A, expand the synagogue by extremist Gen Z rambunctious teens who wanted a additional religious room.
And that, I don't know about that.
mike mersh schiele
Also, it doesn't look like a room I would worship God in.
unidentified
Right?
mike mersh schiele
That doesn't look like I'm giving glory to God.
It just looks like, I don't know, a weird sex dungeon with a baby controller on it.
elijah schaffer
That's a baby high chair.
And a Jewish person told me that doesn't everybody throw shit in their basement.
And I'm like, I don't, we're calling this a basement now, an illegal mining operation.
Is it basement?
royce lopez
Okay.
elijah schaffer
I mean, when you see images like this, and we'll get to the soiled mattress and stuff that's out there, I wouldn't even have thought it mattered there was a baby chair.
It's the people telling me that I'm ridiculous for even asking why it's there that made me go, wait a second.
Cause if I just said, why is the baby chair there?
And someone went, oh, I don't know.
It was an old chair and they just used it to hold their drinks on it.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
Or like, yeah, this threw it down there.
I don't know.
Some kids threw it down the hole.
I'd be like, okay.
But they're like, by questioning this, you are being hateful.
When you saw images like this, because you saw the soiled mattress, I'm sure you've seen this stuff, these things that they're pulling out of the tunnel.
It doesn't feel like it's a place of religious worship.
I don't know if these images changed your mind or what you thought was going on here, but I'd love to know your thought process.
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, I mean, honestly, no one's really given the idea that maybe they're just rescuing black people from slavery.
And so they were trying to get them through the tunnels.
And obviously by having these baby chairs, it shows that they love children.
You know, the priests really care about babies because they circumcise them and then they perform an oral operation on their privy member to drink blood, which is also, I can't find it in the Bible, but I've heard that it's really godly to do such a thing.
And the Jews are really interested in promoting this.
You've got a lot of famous and powerful people advocating for this publicly.
In fact, I made a film called LGBT Terrace.
And in that film, towards the end, we actually talk about Anthony Weiner, how he was so supportive of Jews sucking baby privy members after circumcising them.
And it's just obvious they care a lot about children.
They're taking care of them down in the tunnels, probably after the circumcisions.
And so, you know, it definitely, I don't see why it would be suspicious to point it out.
I think that maybe we should be supporting them and helping them.
Maybe we should bring more children.
I mean, I think this was connected to a children's museum, right?
royce lopez
That or Woody Allen's house.
pastor jonathan shelley
Well, he only brings in family members.
royce lopez
Oh, you're right.
mike mersh schiele
You know what?
royce lopez
I apologize.
mike mersh schiele
What if it's just, what if it's just like they were expanding like their foreskin storage?
royce lopez
Yeah.
Maybe they're, maybe they're, no, they make face creams with that.
I've seen they make face creams with that.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, but where do you store it while you're making the face cream?
royce lopez
Don't the rabbi's mouth, stupid.
mike mersh schiele
Oh, yeah, you're right.
It's like a chipmunk.
It's like a squirrel.
It's like a squirrel gathering food for the winter.
pastor jonathan shelley
I mean, there's a lot of positive narratives here.
elijah schaffer
How'd you guys all get kicked off of YouTube?
royce lopez
Could you remember, who knows?
mike mersh schiele
Probably by implying the Jews store the foreskins of babies in their cheeks, like chipmunks, I would assume, the tunnels system.
So if I like, I like your theory that they're ninja turtles, what if we just rename all the ninja turtles, instead of great like artists from like, the Renaissance, we just name them off to Jewish directors we could have, like Schumacher Spielberg Brooks Allen Greenberg, you know, dude?
elijah schaffer
Okay, can I say this?
Even when I was writing the tunnel for this I mean, the tunnel, he's doing it too even when I was writing the title for this show, it felt like I was doing something wrong.
Right like I was like the secret Jewish Tunnels Of New York.
It just sounded like something you would watch on bit shoot or something right like, not something you'd find on youtube, because it sounds like crazy.
No, I want to be reflective here because i'm not trying to be a pussy about this.
I mean, this is a genuine uh person on a journey of intellectual knowledge.
The the crazy part about 2023 and now 2024, this is a strong kicking off of 2024 if we're already getting conspiracies in real time on video.
Like this is pretty good.
Like this is pretty much comparable to getting video footage of remote controls controlling the plane on 9-11, or something like.
We are literally getting exposed to a tunnel system connected to a?
Uh, a synagogue which, by the way, i'd like to point out to people.
The narrative that they were used to uh, you know, escape laws during Covet is likely not true, because they said that they began in the?
Uh, in the Crown Heights Chronicle or in the Crownheights.info the info there.
They said that the, the digging started six months ago.
Now that's the official city publication or a regional publication.
I don't know if that's accurate, but they're saying that these have only been around for six months, which is well after Covet mandates ended.
Now that that might not be true long term, but we'll just leave that alleged.
Also, people were saying they were to expand worship.
These were inhumane, inhospitable places with mattresses with blood stains on them.
So I I just don't know what, like no one asks what that worship means right because, because they I mean this is being real like okay, it's a, it's a place to worship.
What?
Where would you need to worship?
Or what kind of worship do you need to do?
Underground, without windows and doors, where no one can hear, and I think that's like a really important thing to to differentiate, because this is actually going to give a.
This is like a very Pro-Jewish part of the speech, I'm sure, when it comes to like the, the VICE article that talked about the extreme issues with child molestation and rape, which we're not going to go describe in graphics.
But you can go look up VICE article, child rape and molestation article.
Make sure you put article at the end.
Don't google search.
royce lopez
That's very important to put article.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, put article.
Don't type that in by itself.
mike mersh schiele
God I, you just reminded me.
I found myself doing that all the time when I have to look up something that's like wild in the news for the show yeah uh, like like Alex Rosen's a good friend of ours.
So, like you know, if you look up like a predator poachers video and i'll be like uh, Iowa Displanes a child porn okay, hang on.
Hang on um, predator poachers.
Like you always have to add that in there.
Like, I want to be very specific What I'm looking for right now.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, and that's why, but I just want to say, like, when it comes to worship, that could be the best explanation because there's probably a lot of these Chabad Jews who probably wouldn't be okay.
Like, I'm not making the claim that all Jews are child molesters or anything that's ridiculous, or that, like, everyone's, you know, killing chickens and stuff.
Like, that is probably a very specific sect of these people that are really into that or very devout.
Most religious people are not that religious, right?
They, even if they go to, they might go to synagogue, they're not going to be down with really like the fundamentals of it.
And so, if they're trying to get money, I saw that Jeffrey Epstein had donated money to this group, uh, $500,000, I believe.
royce lopez
I didn't hear that, really, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, to the Chabad, yeah, Jewish, like, uh, center or whatever, he was a bunch of prominent Jews in New York had donated money to this uh group and uh of the sect of Judaism.
It's like if you were going to go into the more extreme Talmudic practices of sacrificing animals and uh, you know, it's okay to have sex with a child that are nine years old, et cetera.
I bet you most Jews are not going to be down with that because they're mostly secular, they're not really into that kind of stuff.
pastor jonathan shelley
I mean, it's usually like the 99% that make the one percent look bad, so me 109 times, shame on me, bro.
elijah schaffer
Deadman delivery on that, holy shit into the worship, the worship theory is that they very well could have been creating a place to practice more, uh, what's it called, more uh, like Puritan Talmudic, yeah, of Talmudic practice.
That could have been a human or an animal.
I'm just saying, like, if they want to do sacrificing and child rape and these things, might as well just do it in a tunnel.
pastor jonathan shelley
Well, I mean, you don't really want to advertise that a lot.
I mean, most people typically don't like it's not exactly cards for kids, yeah, those little those little pull things where you get guitar lessons handing out flyers at the child museum.
royce lopez
Yeah, no, they are hear me out, guys.
There's a solution.
All those illegals, we move them into the Jewish tunnels, solve two problems.
mike mersh schiele
I mean, that's why they were building them.
That's what they should have said.
unidentified
They should have came out and said, We were just trying to help Maya Rick Adams.
royce lopez
And there you go.
mike mersh schiele
We love our schwatza, man.
royce lopez
That's not okay.
I think you could say that Yiddish is fine.
mike mersh schiele
You can say Shvatza.
royce lopez
Okay, good.
mike mersh schiele
It's just Yiddish for black.
You can't, it's known, dude.
pastor jonathan shelley
This is I mean, there's no way the tunnels go to the twin towers or anything like that, right?
We're not connected to any of these locations.
mike mersh schiele
Well, no, they know it used to be, but a part of it uh collapsed once the mission was complete.
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, it was an attack on the Jewish religion in 9/11.
royce lopez
So, just next to the terrorists, to the terrorist passports, it was all there.
mike mersh schiele
This tunnel is just big enough for a van labeled urban movers to fit through.
I think I've cracked the case.
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I'm joined in the studio by Royce and Mersch.
We have them here from Revenge of the Cis and Jonathan Shelley from the Baptist Bias.
And we're talking about the tunnels.
I wanted to show you guys a really important video because this brings up a very good discussion.
You know, this is a video from my understanding that was filmed before.
This was filmed before this story came out.
I don't know if you guys remember, but there was a very prominent YouTuber named Casey Neistat who had put up a video of a hole inside of the ground.
And this guy went to investigate it.
The hole that was in the sidewalk that led to a tunnel system, which tunnel systems are not weird, by the way.
There's tunnel systems under Disneyland.
There's tunnel systems under Epstein Island.
I mean, these are just things that people can use to access plumbing.
Sometimes they have a track door to get into your back door.
Who knows?
However, he investigated this hole to the tunnel system and it goes in such a weird direction.
I found this video.
It did not have a lot of views.
And I'm glad we made it famous on the internet because it turns out New York City has a tunnel problem and they all lead to the same places.
Watch.
unidentified
16 weeks ago, Casey Neistat posted a video where he found a hole in a New York City sidewalk.
elijah schaffer
So he flew to New York to try to find it.
unidentified
So guys, we just found the location of Casey Neistat's hole.
elijah schaffer
They actually cemented it off.
We're going to try to find another way in.
I'm fairly sure I know exactly where it is.
unidentified
This is the exact location that he filmed at.
We got an anonymous tip about a hole in a synagogue that led to the tunnels.
This synagogue was long abandoned, but there was entrances in the basement.
We walked downstairs and found a cat.
I have no idea how a cat got in this basement, but it soon ran away.
Somebody smashed a hole in a wall, possibly to find the entrance, and they even opened a vent.
This looked like exactly what we were looking for.
We kept finding more rooms and it started to become a labyrinth.
We found a ladder that led up to a vent, but it wasn't a vent.
It was actually tunnels leading under New York City.
These looked like secret maintenance tunnels, but I wasn't sure.
Should I post a part two?
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Why was it that out of like, this is the most random thing possible, guys?
Casey Neistat, millions of followers, finds an arbitrary hole, which everyone's thinking, well, that's pretty scary.
I mean, that's the crumbling infrastructure of our country is something to matter.
He looks in, it looks like it's a maintenance tunnel or something underneath.
Very normal.
I don't want to be conspiratorial here.
That's very normal to have tunnels under cities.
This guy goes, I'm going to find it.
Where does he find the entrance to it?
In an abandoned synagogue.
What?
Like, is this every synagogue?
Do I not know something?
Is it, am I, am I, am I ignorant?
Or what is this?
Because this is starting to freak me out.
mike mersh schiele
Do you know about the string?
elijah schaffer
No.
mike mersh schiele
Oh, tell them.
Royce, tell them about the string.
royce lopez
Obviously, and this is, and again, this is not an anti-Semitic trope.
This is something you could look up, which is called the Jewish string, right?
So obviously, you know, on the Sabbath, Jewish people aren't supposed to, especially Orthodox, aren't supposed to go to work.
They're not supposed to go out, even basically don't even go outside.
They have to have a black guy press the elevator button for them.
It's a whole thing.
And it really is.
So if you look it up and you can look it up, it's well documented.
I think Weiss covered it.
There is a fishing string around the entire island of Manhattan.
It's hard to see, but it's looking up.
unidentified
It's true.
royce lopez
It's 100% verifiable, which that string is blessed by rabbis, which allows Jewish people to go out on Sabbath and go to the bagel store and go do normal stuff because it's considered an extension of their home as long as they're within that string.
There's one in Miami, there's one in Chicago, and there's one in New York.
Look it up.
100% true.
mike mersh schiele
It's a real thing.
royce lopez
Look it up.
mike mersh schiele
This was pre-Jewish tunnels when we were learning Avenge of the Sis.
And we're like, and even after the Jewish string, even after that, when these tunnels came out and I was watching these videos and people are like, bro, there's secret Jew tunnels under New York.
I'm like, no, like, come on, man.
That's bait.
But no, it's true.
The string and the, yeah, it's all true.
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, obviously people are just trying to sneak into Jewish churches.
It's not Jewish tunnels.
It's that it's people just want to learn about the Jewish religion and they just really care so much about Jews.
And so they were trying to tunnel in there, rescue them.
And so I don't think it's fair to label these Jewish tunnels, even though they're all connected to synagogues.
I mean, that's just probably a coincidence.
royce lopez
But if I want to learn about Jews, I just watch Fox Business.
elijah schaffer
Dude, I already have, I have the Jewish lineup.
I have my subscriptions to Daily Wire Plus.
I got TV.
I have my Prager U Plus.
I have Fox News Plus.
I want to bring up a clip of that.
You know, like a lot of people are saying, okay, this is an anti-Semitic thing to talk about the tunnels.
And I, and I actually want to bring up something very important here is that if anti-Semitism is talking about things Jews are doing, then we have a real big problem for the people that have been successfully fighting anti-Semitism in the world by deplatforming, demonetizing, and getting rid of people.
Because this right now is just a story and it's just videos.
And really all we're doing is talking about something that's happening today, right?
This isn't even 10 years ago.
This isn't even a like, why are you talking about dancing Israelis?
This is just something that's happened now.
Within 12 hours of me talking about this, it had happened like 12 hours earlier.
I already started getting the comments from colleagues, the DMs.
Why are you so obsessed with this?
Why are you fixated on this?
I'm going, I am not obsessed with this.
unidentified
You fucking cunt.
elijah schaffer
This has happened right now.
This is a literal thing that happened today.
It's like.
It's like asking, I I broke my leg today and i'm like oh, my leg hurts and I stopped about that already and you're like, it's broken today.
I don't even have a cast on.
It's like brother, it happened 12 hours ago and you're just like this is a current event.
Okay, this happened.
Now it's happening as we speak.
It's currently more videos are being dropped as i'm speaking to you and I want to know what happened.
And I, I wrote, I told this to Owen Schroyer.
I had written a very uh, lengthy post that said, within 90 days, they will call you an Anti-semite and a conspiracy theorist for saying there are secret Jewish tunnels under the city of New York.
And I said that like within an hour after this dropping.
mike mersh schiele
And then the let me see if I can bring this up here oh, the guy that, the guy that was like you know what, the guy that heard the voices, they called him crazy.
elijah schaffer
Even yes yes yes, but even more.
Look at this real fast.
The Rolling Stone already puts this out that twitter explodes with Anti-semitic misinfo after secret tunnels found under New York City Synagogue.
I wrote, I wrote Owen, and I was like bro, I should have said 90 hours, not 90 days, within 90 hours, you will be called an Anti-semite.
And I kind of want to bring bring the connection, because I know we like to stream and joke about this stuff, but I think it's important for new viewers or people that don't track this stuff.
This is how they control the world.
They is whoever, but it's like the word conspiracy and Anti-semite, Racist and Nazi are not only compliments that you shouldn't use lightly, but they are also uh, words that are used to discredit people so that you don't listen to them, even when there's evidence.
So it's like I can present to you videos of people crawling out of sewers and tunnels, but then that's coming from someone who's an Anti-semite, that's coming from a conspiracy theorist.
So now, even though there's evidence, we're discrediting the the, the presenter of the evidence.
We don't have to discredit the evidence itself.
It's just, don't listen to him.
He's crazy, he's insane and it's like, maybe it's hard to explain that to people who weren't awake during Covid, maybe that's difficult to explain to people who were, you know, too young during 9-11 or maybe don't remember the Iraq War or different things.
But, like bro, we had a turnaround of like 24 hours between when we saw a new conspiracy develop.
That was true and was real.
And if you cannot realize, this is a great um lesson if you homeschool your kids to teach them how the media and the government creates lies and narratives and covers things up.
Now i'm more interested.
I wasn't even going to do an episode on this.
This happened a few days ago.
I skipped over.
I was like oh, it was pretty good for the day, but the, the anger and the upset on the, when you know, when the Republicans and Democrats are equally mad that people are talking about something, you probably found gold.
royce lopez
Can I predict something?
I want to predict something really quick, because you made a prediction.
I predict that the next thing will happen is there'll be some totally real attack on the Jewish community.
That way, they could be like, can you see what's happening?
They're attacking Jewish people in New York because of this to try to, to try to push the thing away.
You know and honestly, my friend Joyf Pesi, by the way ironically, our Jewish producer tweeted out today that the Jewish tunnels are only happening to uh, to distract people from the Calendar gate.
pastor jonathan shelley
No, it's just not fair that when my toilets get clogged and I unclog them and find little hats, that I get labeled.
mike mersh schiele
Can I just?
I just have to correct the uh the article, though that you you read the Rolling Stone one uh, the the headline.
I just want to correct the headline.
If the headline was a bunch of white churches that were connected by underground tunnels, it would say, come see, come see the tunnels uh, built by white supremacists that helped get Trump elected.
That would be the.
That would be the headline 100.
elijah schaffer
Well, and the author is Jewish apparent, allegedly too.
And I love yeah, and they call it the Jewish Pizzagate, like we call that Pizzagate Regular Pizza Game.
unidentified
I thought it was a piece of ordering Jewish Matzo ball soup.
mike mersh schiele
Hey, can I get Jewish latkes, please?
They're just latkas here, bro.
elijah schaffer
I'll take a Jewish loan, please.
mike mersh schiele
I would like one Jewish loan, please.
royce lopez
Thank you.
unidentified
So, you want a high-interest Federal Reserve-backed loan that we have.
elijah schaffer
But, like, dude, you know what this reminds me?
unidentified
Can you imagine going into a bank and applying for business capital loan?
mike mersh schiele
You're like, oh, I'm just a small town businessman.
unidentified
I was looking for one of them fancy Jewish loans y'all be giving out.
elijah schaffer
Can I bring this up?
This reminds me of this article.
I love how I still say, Can I bring this up as if I'm like still in like a major studio with like 30 people that I have to talk to on a microphone to bring something up?
But this is a real story here from the New York Post.
Sorry for the look on the screen.
It's because I'm in Australia and we have a hard time accessing American websites.
But if you bring this up, this is a real story from the New York Post.
Again, you can find this in the U.S.
And the title is Freed Israeli Hostage Mi Hashem went through Holocaust in Hamas captivity in Gaza.
Everyone over there is a terrorist.
This is a real title, by the way, by Jan Steinbuch.
Okay, so this is by the author.
We have Jarn Steinbuch for the New York Post wrote that the hostage went through the Holocaust.
So we can take this off the screen because I don't like that.
mike mersh schiele
That's how we keep getting the numbers that keep going up.
But that's what everything's a Holocaust now.
elijah schaffer
But this is where the information war, someone like me who never even cared about this issue, right?
I was from LA.
You're not going to get a business deal without rubbing shoulders with the Jewish community.
And, you know, quite frankly, I worked my way up in media by doing the same thing.
So, so I'm not even denying that.
And that's the truth.
And I still have a ton of Jewish friends.
My first producer is Jewish.
He's still my friend.
I have a lot of Jewish friends and family.
I have no problem with Jewish people.
But what I think is weird is when you basically say these tunnels were there, I saw this.
This is a real thing because the Holocaust happened and they might need to escape again.
That was the real explanation.
And then I'm not joking, dude.
This is real.
And then somebody got captured.
And then not only did they just go through the Holocaust, which he was like, so they got gas chambered and cremated.
I don't know.
What do you mean?
And then you're trying to tell me the reason why the whole war in Israel is justified is because of Hamas.
But then she says that everyone's a terrorist, even the babies that are getting blown up.
They're all terrorists.
It's like, ooh, I'm starting to think that I don't give a fuck what you call me anymore.
I'm not going to go full Stew Peters and just like dedicate my show to law.
mike mersh schiele
You're not going to tweet like Jake Shields every day.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And I, and I know them.
royce lopez
I love Jake Shields.
mike mersh schiele
He's been on our show.
He's great.
I like him.
My man's been calling it a little hard on Twitter.
elijah schaffer
Look, look, I like Jake Shields and he has pretty crazy takes on Jews.
I like Shire Rashik who runs live TikTok.
I think she has the opposite end, pretty crazy takes on Jews.
But it's like, that's not my point.
All I'm saying is when you start telling me that being held hostage was the Holocaust, then it goes, if the Holocaust is just being taken hostage, then what was the Holocaust?
And they go, what?
Why are you asking that?
Because you just said that.
And then you go.
unidentified
You just reduced the Holocaust to the Holocaust was being taken captive.
elijah schaffer
And so what, like, I'm just, it's confusing.
I can't even keep up with their bullshit.
And I don't know if they can either.
I don't know, Jonathan.
I want to get your take on that because it's like, I know that you're a pastor and you focus on truth.
And I know that you focus on reality and people don't like reality today.
But it's like when the world's going out and saying love is love, right?
And then gay is gay.
And then now they want to have sex with your child.
And hey, the Holocaust, nobody can, you know, be proud of being white because the Holocaust.
And then it was the worst event to happen in history.
But also, if you get kidnapped, that's the Holocaust too.
It's like, maybe these people are full of shit.
I don't know.
pastor jonathan shelley
Well, sorry, I mean, offering.
So, you know, I don't know that she was burnt, a burnt offering.
It doesn't sound like.
Obviously, when words start losing their meaning, then it's just white noise.
It's kind of a 1984, a double think.
And it really just makes there no reality.
I think that's what the government would like in some cases because they could just keep changing words, definitions, meanings, and they can basically do whatever they want.
And when words start losing their actual definition or their actual meaning, you can't have a conversation.
You can't have a dialogue.
I think that, you know, a lot of the things that were labeled are probably bad in certain contexts, but now they've lost all meaning because everybody's anti-Semitic if you just say something that a Jew did.
And you, of course, point out facts and it's somehow anti-Semitic.
And what's interesting is we no longer question whether something's true or not.
It's just labeled, right?
It's not like it's my truth.
It's this is anti-Semitic.
You know, there's Jewish tunnels.
Well, that's anti-Semitic, but is it true?
You know, hey, there's child trafficking going on in this world.
And we know that it's definitely in the secret.
Could these tunnels be used for child trafficking?
And it's like, that's anti-Semitic.
But here's a question.
Is it true?
And so I think that it's more important to understand if something's true or not rather than all these labels.
I think we have to kind of just ignore the labels and just ask this question.
Is it true?
And the truth is the only thing that really matters in this world.
Obviously, I think that there's a lot of people that hate the truth and they seem to wear the same kind of hats, have the same kind of pigtails.
elijah schaffer
People wear a lot of hats in life.
royce lopez
He's talking about the Dutch.
He's talking about the Dutch.
Same hats, pigtails.
They're Dutch people, obviously.
unidentified
Some people wear hats.
elijah schaffer
Some of the people who wear the hats.
mike mersh schiele
But to touch on your point, it's honestly that I think the most dangerous phrase that's ever been invented in the past 10 years is my truth.
And we've created like basically an entire culture of subjective truth.
And it's like, there's no way to get, there's no way to turn the car around.
Like we already missed the exit as a culture.
I don't think there's another exit on this highway, like unfortunately.
But now everything's like, I went and I spoke my truth.
And it's like, yeah, but your truth is bullshit.
Like you're talking, you know what I mean?
You're talking through.
Yeah, every like it's especially prevalent in like Western women where every one of my ex was a narcissist.
Every one of my ex was an abuser.
I'm just speaking my truth.
And I'm like, statistically speaking, there's no way every single one of your boyfriends beat and raped you.
Like there's just no way.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, everyone's been raped or sexually assaulted too.
Like it's, it's gotten to a point where I'm like, yeah, I remember when this Jewish woman, actually, this is not a joke, while I was running my photo booth business, walked up and grabbed my cock and invited me to a threesome.
She was in this old woman.
It was her son's sweet 16 birthday, by the way.
I was like 20.
And this is in West LA.
And I mean, for me, it's like, that's.
mike mersh schiele
How was she?
elijah schaffer
Oh, man.
royce lopez
Put a hole through the sheet?
How did it work?
mike mersh schiele
Two holes.
royce lopez
It was a threesome, I guess.
elijah schaffer
We got into a sewer.
It just was for the high tear.
I don't want to talk about it.
unidentified
That's why I don't know what guys complained.
elijah schaffer
Like, if guys, like the guys, we actually are like, this is a joke, not a joke, but like, we actually get a lot of shit in the world and we just take it, you know, whatever.
It's just whatever.
Things just happen to you.
Nobody really cares.
We just move on with our life.
And that's like pretty severe too.
But for me, like, I don't even care about that stuff.
I'm not, I'm not a victim.
I don't like, I never, I don't walk around being like, I'm here to tell my story.
Like, let me tell my story of like when I was at this thing because it's epic and I got to tell you what happened after.
No, but I, I, I, I just kind of like, we bring this out.
And I feel like the victim mindset, though, with the my truth thing is this addiction to being a victim.
Like, and I, and I don't want to even beat a dead horse here because we all know people are victim mindset, but it's that people don't have anything that they live for, they have no purpose, so they have no real accomplishments, and so they have nothing unique.
And so, the human mind, the human heart, you know, leads to destruction towards chaos.
And I think people, because they have nothing to stand upon, they can't get praised or allotted for doing something great.
Greatness has been obliterated.
And in fact, we don't even celebrate greatness anymore because, oh, well, you did something great, but you're white.
But everybody can be celebrated for the victimhood, for the status.
Oh, you're white, but you were abused, or you're white, but you an alcoholic parent.
And that's just called living in Chicago.
But, but I also think one of the strange things is that with the victim mindset and the my truth is that people think they're in a fucking movie.
And I was talking to my wife about this when I listened to podcasts, like chicks talking, like, and they sound like pastors in Protestant churches today, you know.
unidentified
And the Lord said that you will be a great man, that he will be for you.
elijah schaffer
And you're like, dude, what are you on a, is this a podcast?
What are, why are we talking like this?
This is bizarre and this is strange.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't know what this is, but everybody thinks they're like some main character in some indie movie.
They talk like they're in some movie.
They're in some narrative.
And unfortunately, they're unimpressive.
They're average.
They're normal.
They have nothing great going on in their lives.
So they result to victimhood.
And now that's the problem is we trivialize what is rape.
It's having regrettable sex when you're drunk, which we used to just call Fridays in college.
royce lopez
But college, bro.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but now it's rape.
I'm just saying everything is, everything is serious.
Everything's rape.
Everything's assault.
Everything is racism.
Everything is the Holocaust.
Everything is, you know, I get what I'm saying with this.
Like, it's gotten to such an extent now that the bullshittery, which is not even a real phrase, is past the palate of most people.
So people are not just waking up.
They're fucking tired of being lied to and they're tired of the bullshit.
So you know what?
Put your gay black conservative on the stage.
I don't want to see that shit.
I want to hear Dennis Prager be honest.
And so, you know, we have a video.
I want to play this and we're going to go to you guys.
I want to Dennis Prager be honest.
And I want to, I want to, this is so good.
Shout out to Dennis Prager for unfortunately, I don't know why he said this, but Dennis Prager got real on a podcast recently.
And he went ahead and shared his thoughts on Judaism.
And here's what he had to say.
This is not doctor.
This is not AI.
dennis prager
Every ism except except Nazism was founded and/or led disproportionately by Jews.
You name it.
Marxism, humanism, socialism, environmentalism, feminism.
Jews.
It's the Jews.
elijah schaffer
Well, I don't know why you said that.
mike mersh schiele
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Meanwhile, if I say it, I get canceled.
royce lopez
But he's saying it in a positive manner.
And I think that all leads back to that same, one of my favorite Judeo-Christian term that came around, right?
Where everyone is under the same.
It's kind of old evangelical speak, that Judeo-Christian, you know, it's like, why are we giving all this money to Israel?
I thought we were, you know, worshiping Jesus.
And I think Prager is one of them that's really big on that.
For example, I mean, Ben Shapiro's an album.
Ben Shapiro brings out Judeo-Christian all the time, but he has his sponsor of food buckets, but he even goes, I want to eat it.
Only the guys in my office eat it.
And it's like, okay, so you want all the benefits of being wrapped up together.
mike mersh schiele
Okay, guys, this is Ben Shapiro.
unidentified
And I want to tell you about our sponsor, Meat and Cheese on the Same Plate.
royce lopez
And you're like, I can't eat it, but my pretty-minute, you can't have that.
mike mersh schiele
Why are you selling it to me?
royce lopez
I make Michael Noth eat it in front of me and tell me how good it is.
mike mersh schiele
Fast.
And I make him eat it slowly.
pastor jonathan shelley
Well, Prager definitely also need to add tunnelism to that list.
Tunnelism.
Obviously, people are just, they embrace emotionalism.
So they say my truth, but what they're just saying is they have a certain emotional reaction to a particular situation.
So a girl gets hit on by a guy she doesn't like and now it's assault.
And she says, that's my truth.
But what we really need to tell is women and weak men that just because you have that emotion doesn't mean it's right.
Sometimes you have a terrible emotion.
It's BS.
You shouldn't have that emotion.
You're just wrong.
And I think we're just too afraid to hurt people's feelings.
Everyone's just easily offended by everything because they just ultimately reject truth in general.
And so, you know, it's interesting that when it's convenient, they invented all of these isms.
But then when you bring it up in a negative light or point out the Satanism behind it, then now all of a sudden you're anti-Semitic.
But this has been going on for a while.
Prager mixing with fake Christians to make it seem like Judaism and Christianity are one and the same when they're really, they couldn't be further from opposites.
The Bible honors the Lord Jesus Christ and says he's the Son of God.
The Talmud says that Jesus Christ is burning in hell and fiery excrement.
So how can you mix these two religions?
One is the antithesis of the other.
And we need Christians to actually be Christian again and get away from Judaism and this Christ rejecting religion, which has nothing to do with the New Testament.
America was not built on Judaism.
In fact, it was illegal to be any other kind of religion in America at the founding.
You couldn't even be Catholic, let alone be a Jew.
And so it's just, it's absurd to try and mix these things now.
It's just these grifters taking dumb Christians money and lying to them and acting like they're on the same team.
mike mersh schiele
I mean, I understand where you're coming from, but then how am I supposed to be a senator in South Carolina?
royce lopez
That's a really good question.
mike mersh schiele
Got to embrace the Judeo-Christian thing.
Look, I got to give any donor money.
royce lopez
I got to tell you, folks, I got to give them what they want.
If I don't go to war, they said they're going to John McCain me.
pastor jonathan shelley
All right, Lindsay.
mike mersh schiele
We know.
royce lopez
We know, Lindsay.
We absolutely know drinking a mint tulep.
But no, it's true.
It's 100% true because when Muslims have a better view on Jesus than Jewish people do, it's really weird that we use the term Judeo-Christian, right?
Like when many Muslim people see Jesus as a prophet, right?
And at least they have put, I guess, respect on his name, right?
But then we're like, no, no, no, we're going to team up with the ones that think, like you said, he's burning and he's burning in.
mike mersh schiele
Burning and flaming shit.
royce lopez
Yeah, that's the guy.
mike mersh schiele
Like he said, he's sitting in the front door of some neighbor you're pranking when you're a teenager.
pastor jonathan shelley
Exactly.
elijah schaffer
Dude, the best part is, the best part about this is, is like, I am the biggest fucking bitch in the entire world.
And the fact that I was completely lied to and brought up in this stuff.
So I understand people who think like we're crazy talking like this.
I understand people that think this is horrible.
Like I just want to remind you, when I suggested to my own father recently that maybe Israel was not like doing that good based off of biblical prophecy, right?
I took dispensational prophecy, eschatology, and showed him how it said that in the last days he was going to bring Israel back to their homeland.
But unlike previous days, they would be unrepentant.
Then I flipped to the gospels and showed that he hardened the hearts of the Jews.
And I told my dad, I go, when if he's still using them, then I'm not going to be against God using whoever he wants.
He used Pharaoh, right?
The last person we saw with a hard heart was Pharaoh.
His heart was hardened and he was to keep the people of Israel inside of Egypt.
This was not good.
This was a very evil act, but God used him.
That doesn't mean he's a good guy.
God uses bad people for his purpose and their hearts are hardened.
They typically aren't good people.
So if Pharaoh was a bad guy and if I'm a bad person when my heart is hard and I'm disobedient, then what do we say about a group of people who God is using, he brings back, but he says they're non-repentant and their hearts are still hardened.
When human beings are typically unrepentant and have hard hearts towards God, are they forces for good in the world or are they forces for evil?
And he looked at me.
I said, so is it true to say that you're correct and that God is going to use the Jews back in their homeland for his purposes and for his for his plan, but that their actions may actually be bad in the world because they're an unrepentant nation, an unrepentant people, and their religion is satanic.
And he told me that I was getting it, I was reading books from demons.
And so he told me that I was being, I was, my well was poisoned by demons.
So I love my dad and he's great.
And I'm not, I respect him a lot.
But that's really how hardcore people will tell you.
Like, I'm just like bringing up basic biblical interpretation.
And if it's not fully in support of Israel, then I'm a demon guy.
pastor jonathan shelley
Well, we need to set up a charity to donate more high chairs to more mattresses because the mattresses have gotten a little dirty and we should get them some fresh mattresses.
And maybe we can get some Christians to support that.
Because obviously Israel could never do anything wrong.
Everything they do is super good and super righteous.
And so Tel Aviv is one of the straightest places in the world.
And you should definitely support the thing that is the opposite of your religious belief and founding.
Yeah, I think God is going to use them to bring in the Antichrist.
But, you know, whether you think that's good or bad, I guess that's up to you.
The Antichrist is someone who's going to rule the entire world.
He controls the entire banking system, controls the entire economy, even maybe the tunnel system.
So you never know what's going to happen in the future.
But it's just absurd that Christians have been kind of lulled to sleep on this issue because historically, Christianity and Judaism did not mix well.
You could ask Europe how that went through the Renaissance Middle Ages and maybe even Martin Luther what his opinion was on Jews and if they ever told the truth.
elijah schaffer
On the Jews and their tunnels.
It's a new book.
mike mersh schiele
By the way, can I ask which ninja turtle you think that the Antichrist will be named after?
royce lopez
Oh, probably Splinter because he's a rat.
When I don't know, I was talking about what you're saying about getting the high church for them.
If we get them from Wayfair, they're already come with kids in them to save them a step.
mike mersh schiele
And I really save shipping.
pastor jonathan shelley
So you can get a good deal, like $13,000 for that high turning.
elijah schaffer
I saw that too.
unidentified
I thought kids were like $40,000 a pop, but Wayfair has them on sale for $12,995.
royce lopez
Well, they're immigrants, so they're cheaper.
mike mersh schiele
What?
You guys aren't buying $13,000 pictures of pizza on eBay?
Whatever the fuck that was, Etsy.
royce lopez
Etsy.
elijah schaffer
Dude, I can't help it.
Okay, let me give a huge shout out.
Guys, don't go anywhere because I want to look at some, I want to look at the takes from my colleagues, my former colleagues.
I have this next section titled, Bad Takes from Good People.
Stupid things said by smart people I like.
And I just want to clarify that so people don't start beef because, you know, we don't want to start beef, especially if it's served with cheese, okay?
Especially on this conversation.
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All right, I'm joined in the studio by Merch and I'm by Mersh and Royce of Revenge of the Cis and Jonathan Shelley in the middle there from the Baptist Bias, Bias Baptist.
I always get wrong.
pastor jonathan shelley
Baptist bias.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
I live with a dyslexic, so I'm always getting screwed up there.
The thing is, you can follow them.
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We're on censored.tv, which is really important.
I don't know how many are watching there.
We're on locals.
Shout out to locals.
So we've got a big audience watching on a normal Wednesday night.
Not to forget, I just want to give the shout out to remind you guys, if you just join the show right now, if you can go to my screen here, Brian, we have a huge debate tomorrow night on this topic on Zionism, Zionist control.
Is this even real?
Are people who bring this up anti-Semitic?
Is anti-Semitism real?
People keep asking me, what's the topic?
Read, you fucking retard.
It's on the top.
It says Zionism.
Okay.
And there doesn't need to be a topic when you have such good voices.
Adam King, Vincent James.
And Adam King is like a Jewish.
I think he's an IDF soldier.
I might be wrong.
I think he's an IDF.
I'm pretty sure he's an IDF soldier.
And Gavin McGuinness, who's a Zionist, versus Nick Fuentes, who is anti-Zionist.
And Vincent James, I don't want to, I don't know what I would categorize Vincent James.
He's like a nationalist.
mike mersh schiele
He's a good dude.
royce lopez
Vincent James.
mike mersh schiele
He's a good dude.
royce lopez
He's an amazing dude.
Amazing dude.
elijah schaffer
But nationalist.
His worldview to be nationalists.
mike mersh schiele
I would have an American nationalist.
royce lopez
I believe he's.
elijah schaffer
He's a Catholic.
royce lopez
An American nationalist who notices.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Noticing America.
Because I was going to say he's white and a nationalist, but I think white nationalists would be the wrong phrase for that.
Because I'm a white nationalist in terms of I'm white and I'm a nationalist.
But I think white nationalism is different.
But anyway, these are really good guys.
They're all good guys, by the way.
I don't know anything about Adam King, though, so I don't know anything about him.
But I know Gavin's a great guy.
Nick's a great guy.
Vincent is a great guy.
And it's going to be a really good debate.
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I want to get into the topic here of the takes on this.
So let's talk about this, guys.
I'm always really afraid because I'm kind of a bitch to name names because I've just worked with a lot of these people.
I mean this genuinely.
A lot of the funny thing about the internet is that people can just talk shit on people.
They don't know them.
They're just figments of their imagination.
Oh, it's just some random person.
Just Candace Owens.
I've either every single person in the right-wing movement, I've pretty much either worked with directly on a project, a movie, a show.
I've been on their show.
They've been on my show.
And I know they're all pretty much genuinely good people who have good hearts.
Okay.
And a lot of what you can attribute to malice is actually ignorance.
I am not joking.
A lot of people are ignorant.
And I've said this genuinely because when you're in these bubbles, sometimes you believe your own bullshit.
Okay.
And we're humans.
We're all susceptible to that.
So if everyone around you is saying Nick Fuentes is the Antichrist, you may believe it, just like you may believe that, you know, your child is transgender or something like that.
I mean, there's a lot of bullshit out there.
But I want to get into the bad takes.
Let's start here with Daily Wire and let's go with Michael Knowles, who, by the way, is an excellent thinker.
I just happen to disagree with his perspective here.
Everyone felt like they had to speak on this, right?
Because you were being pressured.
Like, why would you ignore this?
Everyone wanted to ignore it.
I want to clarify that.
Everyone wanted to ignore this.
That would be their first choice would be, let's not talk about this because it could hurt their income.
But let's talk about it.
All right, Michael Knowles, let's bring this up on the screen here.
Says, the news about the secret Jewish tunnels, we call them the secret Jewish tunnels in Crown Heights, reminds me that Shabbateniks are some of my very favorite people.
And he did link the video to the tunnel, which was deleted, which we'll get to a bad take there later.
They were all deleted off the internet, which that's a whole nother story in and of itself.
Let's just go right to Merch here.
It's like, look, Michael works for the Daily Wire.
I totally understand.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
That's absolutely, you know, a very important statement.
But the hand that feeds Michael is feeding like 99% of people in the entire right-wing establishment media, which is the problem.
It's the same hand feeding all of us.
Daddy's real big and he's got deep pockets and he's killing a lot of Palestinians right now.
So it's a it's tough, but I mean, when someone comes out and says an answer like that, it's kind of like a non-answer, right?
Just like, oh, secret tunnels.
I like these people.
mike mersh schiele
You never want to bite the hand that feeds you, especially when it has dirt under its fingernails from the tunnels.
royce lopez
Come on, man.
pastor jonathan shelley
You know, I think that it's really just that he's disappointed that the Catholic priest didn't already think of the tunnels.
royce lopez
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
How about the Vatican?
Aren't there secret tunnels?
mike mersh schiele
You're right.
There's a bunch of Catholics going right now going, dude, tunnels.
royce lopez
He didn't think of tunnels.
The whole spotlight thing wouldn't have been a problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, I want to hear this response to this.
So, this kind of answer, there's a lot of people like this.
I just brought up Michael's people being like, there's secret Jewish tunnels underneath the city.
unidentified
I like these people.
elijah schaffer
And I'm like, is that a take?
To me, that's a deflection of like, I have an opinion on this, but I don't want to say it.
So I'm going to deflect with something that would please my boss while also not making it look like I'm not aware, right?
So it's like, I'm aware.
mike mersh schiele
It's definitely not a hard take.
It's definitely a deflection.
And I'll tell you why.
It's a fence-sitting position because Tim Poole had the same position.
royce lopez
So, and it's, it's true, but here's the point.
The point is, is that, yes, you're right.
The hand that feeds, we 100% understand what you're saying.
The hand that feeds feeds all of us, okay?
Us included.
Okay.
We know how it is.
The difference is, is that how far do you, how close are you to the hand, right?
What bothers me is not having a bad take or even ignoring it doesn't even bother me that much.
What bothers me is the people that are trying to turn it into something based, you know, like, oh, if they were doing it for lockdowns, oh, no, no, bro, that's pretty based.
Those, this kind of take where it's like, that's pretty cool.
No, it's not cool.
It's not cool.
And my, my, my literature says is this.
If you were to change the word Jewish to Palestinian, would they have the same reaction?
And let's be honest, the answer is probably no, right?
pastor jonathan shelley
Jonathan, I think just even commenting on it probably didn't score him any points.
And it was, it was really, it's a double bad take because he doesn't win anybody.
Like, who actually liked that comment?
Who kind of thought like, oh man, you know, I ever thought about that?
I really do like these people because of the secret Jewish tunnels.
mike mersh schiele
Andrew Claven.
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, it probably pissed off all the Bergs and Steins out there, anyways.
So, you know, he probably should have just said nothing.
I mean, if you really are upset about it, you probably should say nothing in that particular situation.
But it would really just seem like a non-committal.
It didn't seem like he really wanted to go in any direction.
And it was just kind of a fail.
royce lopez
But I think it's, I think it's also the fact that these people can't even be funny about it, make a joke about it.
I mean, try to do something other than try to make it seem like a cool base thing that they did.
Like, look, man, people that are saying that's not interesting, that you're being disingenuous.
Okay.
And people that are pretending like, wow, this is a good thing.
They built COVID tunnels six months after COVID.
It doesn't make any sense before COVID.
Excuse me.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
It is 100%.
You have to be very careful.
Like, like Merch said the other day, and I'll repeat it.
There was somebody at the ADL who threw their laptop across the room when they saw that guy come out of the sewer because all of them have to cover now.
All of them have to pretend this isn't happening.
All of them have to twist it and call it anti-Semitic or call it something bad or say, isn't that cool that Jews have tunnels?
Like, you're right.
Who likes that statement?
Who's on that side of the argument?
elijah schaffer
Can I say something very important here?
And this is not directed at Knowles.
This is directed at the overall establishment.
You just brought up a very important point about who liked this.
And this is what I want to clarify to the audience watching: that we are having an overton window shift and that people are so aware of the grift and aware of who's controlling the grift that they're not accepting it anymore.
And it's not because they want to, like you just said, it's because life is getting so shitty that it's like, I can't play games anymore.
Okay.
Things are getting so expensive.
The quality of life is decreasing so rapidly.
The level of lack of security has skyrocketed and crime is at such places that we have never seen that I do not have the luxury to buy or just be numb to people's bullshit.
This relaxed feeling of oh, yeah, I guess that's true.
I don't really want to look into it because I might look bad.
It's like, hey, I can't buy dinner for my son.
I'm skipping meals now.
If this goes any further, this is going to be bad.
Who's behind this?
Who's so, oh, the right-wing, the daily wire, they're the ones informing me.
What are they informing me about?
Are they they've been informing me for five years that they have the solutions and the answers, and things are just getting progressively worse.
They're just getting bad.
And I'm doing everything they say.
I'm putting flags in front of my house.
I'm calling out Marxists on Facebook, and things are not changing.
This is really weird.
Look at this post here.
Go back to this thing here.
So this has got 1,400 likes.
Formidable.
It's got 2.6 million views.
pastor jonathan shelley
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
So that means 2.6 million people viewed this and only 1,400 of them liked it.
This is what's called a hyper-viral post.
So a viral post is anything over 100,000 and a hyper-viral post is anything a million or more.
Okay.
If you work in the big leagues, you would know millions is what we aim for every day to try to get at least a couple million impressions a day.
But if you have 10 followers, you would know even 100,000 would be viral.
100,000 people is a stadium, a couple stadiums full of people.
This is what?
100, 100, 200 stadiums full of people.
mike mersh schiele
It's basically, no, 2.6 million is basically like Phoenix.
elijah schaffer
It's Gaza.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah.
pastor jonathan shelley
Well, it was Gaza.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, it was Gaza.
elijah schaffer
Saw this.
And only one.
mike mersh schiele
Well, that's why I went with Phoenix, Arizona, because the babies are still alive.
elijah schaffer
And it's still a shithole.
And if it got bombed, no one would care.
unidentified
Exactly.
Yeah, Israel.
mike mersh schiele
Just bomb Phoenix and then we'll get off your asses.
We won't care.
elijah schaffer
Seriously.
We don't need any more for-profit colleges.
They're like everywhere in that.
But if you look at this, only 373 people retweeted it.
Like, I thought this was something even worth commenting on.
And you go down and it's like, there's this person named Autumn Groiper who is like, just said, nice damage control Shabbos go.
What does that mean?
I literally don't know.
mike mersh schiele
Oh, you don't know a Shabbos guy?
elijah schaffer
No, I don't know what that means.
mike mersh schiele
So that is a that is a goyam that is uh willing to do work on behalf of the Jews on the Sabbath because they can't like do certain things and they can't go out and they can't work.
So a Shabbos goy is somebody who is literally on the Shabbos, your little pet coy.
We always used to me, we always make a joke on Revenge of the Sis that they make Matt Walsh work on Saturdays at Daily Wire just so somebody's there to push the elevator button.
elijah schaffer
One-story building.
I've never looked on here.
I never looked at the building.
pastor jonathan shelley
He's got to open the tunnel door.
mike mersh schiele
Exactly.
Somebody's got to do it.
And Candace Owens is on maternity leave.
elijah schaffer
Their office is so nice.
It is so nice.
It is out of security.
It's like airport security to get in by the way.
pastor jonathan shelley
They have an elevator to the tunnel.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I was like, Avengers, they share office space with the Avengers.
mike mersh schiele
A personnel one and a freight one.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but look at this.
So I just want, I want to bring this stuff up because our words don't matter.
You would want to see who's winning.
It's got 5,900 likes.
That's a ratio, right?
There's about four and a half times the amount of people that liked that comment.
I didn't know what that meant until now.
And even this one from 9mm SMG was like, oh, look, Noel's another idiotic take.
Stick to selling your brown phallic cigars, which is, by the way, fuck you.
I love cigars.
So this is my friend, but fuck you.
I stick to Noel's cigars.
Those are good.
Although all these people really don't associate with me anymore.
Actually, Matt Walsh just unfollowed me on everything, which was really weird during all this Israel stuff.
I assume that was why.
He's followed me for years and we've been on shows together.
So I don't know what happened there, but all of a sudden I started giving takes on this stuff.
And then he was no longer following me on his accounts.
But I also don't know if it was him.
It could have been one of his, like, whoever runs his accounts.
It could have been his assistants or it could have been a top-down, you know, could have been a Ben Shapiro or Jeremy Boring thing.
Like, hey, everyone's got to unfollow this guy because I've seen internal memos and there's a couple organizations.
My own friend works for one of the largest conservative organizations.
I come out of it.
Their entire organization is blacklisted from coming on to the show.
I'm not joking.
I am not joking, but they still come to me to promote their content.
So that's interesting.
But I, but they don't let any other staff come on the show.
And the reason why isn't cited.
It's just no longer allowed to come on the show.
And I think that's just really interesting because my friend is only working.
My friend only, you know, my friend works for them, but they're not allowed to come on.
And that's a really unfortunate thing.
Because really, he's on, he works for them because they saw him on this show.
So, so it's like, it's interesting, right?
He was like doing, he was on my show for like six months, eight months, and then they saw him and he was doing a really good job and he's extremely talented.
And then he got, he had a lot of work with me on camera.
And then he got a job on camera and now he's not allowed on the same show.
Why?
The show hasn't changed.
The topics haven't changed.
We just kept talking about the truth.
It's just the truths we're talking about are not the truths they want us talking about.
It's okay talking about transgenders and you know, all this, the economy, but when you talk about who's controlling the economy, who's introducing this stuff, I can't talk about it, but Dennis Preger can, which doesn't make any sense.
royce lopez
Well, what's happened here, and that's great that you bring that up because what's happened here, and I've said this on Twitter and I said it on our show, it exposes that a lot of these people, there's supposed to be, you know, no censorship, these warriors on censorship, we hate censorship.
The moment it's something like this, they all become censorship crazy.
They all go like, no, no, no, no, don't go on that show.
No, no, don't talk to them.
No, no, no, you don't want this guy around.
No, no, no.
You know, you see people that the ADL was attacking now working with the ADL.
You know what I mean?
Because, and I think it's great because we call it on ROTC like turning the wheel and really seeing who's actually for free speech, who actually cares about this stuff.
And when incidents like this happen, a lot of the same people that if this was Ukraine would have been screaming from the rooftops, you know, are being like, oh, well, that's so cool.
Tunnels, huh?
How awesome.
We love them.
We love tunnels now.
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, it's like that guy who gets a really bad girlfriend and he kind of stops hanging out with you and he can't be around you because the girlfriend, the girlfriend's always telling him where to go.
And he's basically just become her simp.
And, you know, it's not that the guy is necessarily a bad guy or has a bad view.
It's just he's being controlled.
He's being told what to do.
He's being led by the nose.
And, you know, you hope that by, you know, talking to him and explaining to them why they're wrong, maybe they'll break up and essentially come to the realization that this relationship is abusive relationship for them.
And I get it, though.
A lot of these people, they're in this abusive relationship because there's only one tunnel.
And so, you know, and you know, sometimes you unfortunately, that's just the reality.
And so when you get out of the tunnel system, you know, it's definitely harder.
There's a, there's obviously a lot of money that has to deal with these situations.
royce lopez
By the way, I don't think I didn't notice the led by the nose thing.
That was also very funny.
But yes, cool.
Bro, this guy, you're one of the funniest people I've ever done a show with.
You're so funny.
elijah schaffer
It's hilarious.
mike mersh schiele
And it's so deadpan.
royce lopez
It's so deadpan and it's killing me.
pastor jonathan shelley
But obviously, you know, some people, they just don't see why they're being destroyed and what's kind of causing the evil upon them.
And, you know, the love of money is the root of all evil.
That's what the Bible says.
We know who has all the money.
And so we know where, you know, all the evil's coming from.
royce lopez
Yeah, but this time they bolted down the table so you can't flip them.
We thought ahead.
elijah schaffer
You know what I think is crazy?
I think what I think is insane about this is like, like, this isn't, this is not, I'm not going to go deep in this, but people are new to the show.
It's funny.
I was doing media for, you know, maybe four months and I'd already gotten, I got the call, but a good call.
I got a call from one of the largest media conglomerates in the right-wing media who were like, hey, we like the work you're doing.
We think that you care.
This is like the lowest budget my show has been.
It's only because we're using a cheaper software because we're on a satellite and we're in Australia.
So we can't use good software programming.
It's too much signal lag with all the software.
However, I've always put a lot of time and effort into what I do.
I've always made sure we have a good set, always make sure we have good guests.
It's just something I cared about.
We could put a fucking bullshit into it, but they called me and were like, hey, we noticed this.
We want to get you.
We want to get you while you're young.
We want to get you while we can control you.
I didn't understand it at the time.
I'm like, everyone's like, how'd you get offered a big job at like four months into content?
And you're like, well, I got a good call because I was controllable and I got brought into the system and I'm grateful, right?
And I'm actually really grateful.
I'm grateful to these people.
I'm not going to talk shit.
They took me in and they gave me a lot of money.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
They did.
They gave me a lot of money.
And they didn't tell me what to think.
They just told me what they reconfirmed my biases and they taught me.
They put me around people and on shows and, you know, gave me books to read and things that I came to a way of thinking.
And so a lot of people, I told you, don't attribute to malice.
What is to ignorance?
A lot of people, they just the books that they're told to read at their networks, the books that they are, that they're inviting, the conversations they have, they don't explore ideas.
Trust me.
It's not like there's some email.
It's like, you cannot talk about this.
unidentified
Always.
elijah schaffer
It does get there.
It does get there.
But in the beginning, in the beginning, it's just reading lists, right?
Reading lists you need to read.
You only have so much time.
If you're reading certain books that you're required to read for your job or whatever, you're not like reading all these other books and your worldview stays the same.
Then you know, you know, you start realizing, you start speaking at colleges, which went on a college tour, very successful, and you get feedback from the organization like, hey, why'd you say that?
And why'd you say this?
And that's how it starts.
Like, well, what, why?
Like, they're just genuinely curious.
Why did you, why did you, when they asked you, should we return to the gold standard?
Why did you say, I haven't researched that yet.
I'll look into that.
Why didn't you just say, oh, because, you know, the paper money monetary system is working well.
You know, we've, it's capitalism.
And you're like, oh, because I just, I've never even thought about that.
It's like, why should you like, wait, why do you care about my thoughts on the gold standard?
That's fucking weird.
That's a weird fucking Q ⁇ A question to care about.
And I'm telling this is how it starts.
And then you bring up, you know, comments on a show, which has happened to me, where you start, you say, like, hey, I was at CPAC and there was a Zionist organization that was the sponsor of the of the program.
And then you get hit articles from the left saying, Elijah Schaefer speaks conspiracies about Jews controlling CPAC, which I didn't say.
And then you get called into meetings and offices where they're like, why would you suggest Jews are controlling CPAC?
And you're like, wait, I didn't say that.
I have the pamphlet right here.
It's literally just like Zio for conservatives.
It's like, here it's a sponsor on the thing.
And they're like, yeah, but Jewish organization of America doesn't exist.
I go, that was a hyperbole, like the Jewish organizations of America.
Like I would say women, but my wife isn't multiple.
She's one.
It's just, I'm just talking in general.
And all of a sudden you start going like, wait a second, I'm in a fucking golden dome because it has no limits.
And you get the con, you get the conversations.
I've had a lot of the calls.
Like, if you would just, if you would just, if you would just the next conversation, the next, you know, negotiation, you're going to clean house.
And when I tell you how much fucking money everyone makes, it would blow your mind.
It would blow your mind.
Actually, wouldn't.
They're all rich.
They're all bloody fucking rich.
Everyone's rich as fuck.
It is so much money in media.
It is really crazy.
And I was making a lot of money.
I will admit that.
It was making a lot of money.
Did I blow a lot of money?
Yes.
But, but I will also say that it was, it was for a young guy, it was a lot of money.
And for a lot of people, did I lose a lot of money?
Yeah, I've lost seven-figure contracts again for the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff.
So I've fucked up my own life by sticking true.
But when I say that these people are the most effective people in the world, I'm genuinely saying to you, it's easy to talk shit, but when you've got $2, $3 million a year guaranteed to just fucking read something and all you need to do is just not be a jackass on Twitter.
That's like the only rule.
Don't be a fucking retard on Twitter.
It makes sense why everyone falls into it because like, and that's why I'm trying to give credence.
It's like, it's easy for, you know, it's easy for people on the internet to be like, oh, I'll never give it a temptation with a girl.
How many hot chicks have given you a genuine opportunity in the last year?
You know, I'm just saying it's easy to be like, oh, yeah, like you live in fucking Africa.
Oh, I don't overeat.
Do you even have food?
So like, I'm just saying, like, it's easy to like be in that mode, but when you're an American, you have all the snacks in the world.
Everyone knows it's hard not to overeat.
So like these people know when we offer these people a shit ton of money for the most easy ass work possible, they will do what we fucking say.
And it is, it is, it is crazy how rich these people are for how little they actually do.
And I've witnessed it.
And I'm just going to say, it's not going anywhere unless we bully the fucking shit out of these people on the internet and it's working in their comments, mog the shit out of them.
And I'm not talking about violence and not promoting bullying in person, YouTube.
I'm not talking about being mean and hitting them, nothing like that.
Put that pressure, ratio them and pressure the shit out of them because they are starting to shut the fuck up.
Ben Shapiro is shutting the fuck up about his Gaza stuff because he started getting humiliated and it started hurting his base.
And I will tell you this, and I'm just going to end here.
I have friends in all the high places still and in all the places.
They agree with me.
They don't want to say it, but they agree with me.
They do all still agree with me.
They have told me that the same thing in every company.
The people at the top are fucking scared because the noticers of the right wing have grown so quickly that after October 7th, they did not know how strong, how powerful, and how influential we were, that their grift isn't working.
They've lost core pieces of their audience.
They've lost entirely almost Gen Z and younger millennials.
They're completely reliant on boomers and Gen X and they don't know what to do because begging for citizenship from Israel is not attracting new viewers.
And the end goal is money.
And the only way that they have power, so I'm telling you, it's because they have a lot of money.
The only way they have a lot of money is because they have a lot of control of viewers.
But if that runs out, we're on like a 10-year span to where they're not going to have the money to offer the people to shut the fuck up.
And that's scary to them because if we can't offer you $3 million, you might actually start being honest with your audience.
You might be honest on Twitter.
You might be real and people might stop taking this shit up the ass.
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, everybody's too poor to actually buy their crap anymore because obviously there's the handful of individuals that are being bought and paid for.
And it's easy to not think when you're getting paid millions of dollars.
But for the vast majority of us, we're actually living really hard.
Young people can't afford a house.
They can't afford just any kind of extra.
Their basic necessities are a lot of times going on credit cards or they're burning through equity.
And so now they're kind of questioning like, why do I want to continue in this system?
This system isn't helping me.
It's not benefiting me anymore.
So then you start asking more questions.
And essentially, the more you ask questions, the more you get banned and no one wants to give you any answers.
And so it's just a shame.
It's kind of that overbearing psycho girlfriend.
It's like the amber herd that everybody can see Johnny Depp needs to get rid of, but he just keeps saying like, but she looks hot.
And it's just like, yeah, but it's too, it's just an awful train wreck.
You don't want to get involved with something like that.
It will destroy your life.
royce lopez
It's really, it's really hard to sell $20 chocolates when you're calling your fan base anti-Semitic for their take on a foreign war.
And I think that's what's happening.
It's really difficult.
We say this all the time.
It's a lot easy to be potentially and all this stuff when the world is good.
And that's outside of just politics, but in general, it's really easy to be into niche things when everything's going great, but everything is not going great.
So it's very, very difficult to literally sell stuff and also figuratively sell your ideas when people are like, okay, but like there was a baby formula shortage and I can't buy food.
I don't really give a shit what's going on in the Middle East.
I don't really care.
And just that stance now, where they ran out of, they ran out of that rock, flag, and eagle stuff, as I like to call it after 9-11.
They played that trick on us.
And look, I fell for it.
I will admit it.
I fell for like, turn Iraq into glass.
I fell for it, like an idiot.
But the problem is, just like Daffy Duck, when he shoots himself with a gun, you could only do that trick once.
And after you do it, people aren't going to rally around another 18-year war.
Look what happened in Afghanistan.
How can you sell people on something that they can't when they can't even afford food?
Telling them, you know what?
Yeah, another war in Iran sounds great because of, I don't know, Reagan's trickle-down economics.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, I mean, we talk about this on our show all the time.
And it's, you know, touching to your point, John, about the it's fatigue.
It's, we all are fatigued.
And after COVID lockdowns, the Ukraine war, after a 20-year war in Afghanistan, where we just handed guns to the Taliban that we're not allowed to legally own in this country, it's just like, you know what, man, like, and then now they started pushing the Israel-Gaza thing, and now there's tunnels.
And it's just, I think people are just going, hey, look, man, it's like that meme where the alien lands comes to earth and the guy's just smoking a cigarette.
And he's like, don't you care that we're aliens?
And he's like, man, I got a lot going on right now.
That's the whole general vibe of the country.
And they're like, we got to get hype.
unidentified
Let's go.
mike mersh schiele
These fucking, we got to get Hamas.
And we're like, yeah, man.
I don't, man, I can't even afford milk.
royce lopez
Yeah, I pissed in a Gatorade bottle at an Amazon factory.
It's going to be really hard to sell me, taking more money out of my paycheck for a place I never could afford to go to.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Buddy, yeah, I like when people are walking around and like they can't figure out if they want to buy more chips to further their diabetes or they want to buy the insulin to try to control the diabetes, but they can't afford either.
So it's like, it's kind of an interesting statement to be in in a place to be.
I will say, and this, this is where I like you mentioned, where there's, there's a problem with this stuff.
I decided this.
I decided this show wasn't going to give a fuck anymore in 2024.
Someone's like, how are you going to guarantee good content in 2024?
I said, I don't know.
I have a, and this is what I mean by the psychological thing of us waking up.
I have handcuffs on my brain.
This is how serious the psychological control goes.
I am so accustomed to the bullshit from my previous work, five years in the mainstream media, that I'm still afraid to call people out on their bullshit by name because they're like my colleagues, which of course is against company standards, right?
There's company policies.
Like you can't call someone out in your company.
Okay.
So this is like the thing.
I can't call them out.
Now, I have NDAs.
I have things.
I'm not going to call it previous.
Previous people I've directly worked with under contract because it's illegal for me to do so.
But I will say, like, I genuinely am like, who fucking cares if Matt Walsh unfollowed me?
Like, these guys fucking show the war and get us focused on transgender stuff when if you just homeschooled your kids, we'ren't a fucking twat parent and focused on raising your children, didn't let them watch movies, they're not going to grow up trans.
Okay.
Well, but schools are pushing trans stuff on my kids.
Don't put your kids in public schools.
Well, we'd have to make sacrifices.
You're going to have to make sacrifices.
You talk about, well, I would die for my country.
That's what Americans say.
They go, the Second Amendment.
You can take it off my cold dead hands.
Brother, you won't even not consider sending your kid to public school.
Are you going to kill?
You're going to kill Kamala Harris?
You won't even show up to a parent teacher meeting to find out what your kid's even being taught at your school.
Let's not even go as far as taking your kid out of school.
You won't even show up.
It took COVID, your kid being at home on a Zoom lesson for you to hear in shitty 480p bitnapped audio on their iPad that they were being told that girls have penises for you to realize that your kids were being brainwashed.
You're fucking retarded and you're not going to suddenly change because you have a gun.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
It's not going to make you more of a man.
You're going to become more of a man because you're going to create action and you're going to be ready for that action before you need it.
You want to be someone who will use your gun, but if you're not that kind of person, your second amendment doesn't matter because you're not even going to use your gun when the time push comes to show.
We saw it with a YouTuber who was attacked, by the way, by somebody with a gun recently and he was hiding behind his girlfriend.
That's how the world is.
So you have to be ready to use your Second Amendment before you have to use it.
And that's the mindset you want to be in.
And I feel like today, I've realized, like most people, it's 2024.
Daily Wire is lying to people.
Fuck that company.
They're lying to people.
Every day, they're lying to people.
Ben Shapiro is leading a next generation of people down not only to hell with Judeo-Christianity, which is a false religion.
It's a false support that uses the good-hearted nature of kind Protestants to financially, militarily be numb to their own nation's issues to support a country that hates them, but they're also selling you products to support a company that does not focus on the issues that are really hurting this nation.
And they focus on all, you know, these other things.
And it's like, dude, I look, these are good people and they're nice people.
But overall, that organization is a distraction.
It's a circus.
It is literally like going to the sports games for people who don't watch sports.
It's sports for nerds.
And it's like, if you really think that Republicans getting in the White House is going to fix this country, no, we need, we, sure, let's get, let's get Trump in the White House, but we also need to fucking bully him this time so he doesn't get the Jared Kushners on his side.
And we remind him, hey, Trump, cut the fucking bullshit.
We don't want to let the border shut down.
We want the people thrown the fuck out.
We don't want the Fed ended.
People being like, wow, wouldn't it be great if we built a wall?
What if we fucking destroyed the Federal Reserve?
How about we get the banking system out of our country and those responsible for it?
Right.
I mean, this is a serious nature.
You have to be brutally serious.
And for me, it's like, at this point, if you are not serious about how bad things are getting, if you do not realize, I have a kid now.
So if you want to make my life more difficult, you're attacking my child and I will fuck you up.
So, hey, I don't give a shit anymore.
You can unfollow me.
You can block me.
You can take away my contracts, my money.
We're fucking go time.
And I think they know that.
I think they realize that.
And when this little bitch motherfucker from LA who had bleached hair and nose rings is like, it's go time, motherfucker.
I will fuck you up.
Then you've really fucking better watch it because there's a lot of men with more testosterone, more children, more on the line and more years behind me.
unidentified
And if I'm there, then where the fuck are they?
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, I think that sometimes we have to take a little bit of responsibility ourselves because we've become this society that just wants to consume content.
And this is why censorship is so powerful because people just want to watch something.
They want to consume something.
And when they censor every conservative viewpoint but Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire, then a lot of people watch that show, even though they don't necessarily agree with him or they don't necessarily even have his viewpoints, but he's just the most conservative option they have.
They want to consume something.
So they basically consume it.
And they don't realize that it's kind of that tide that's pulling them out even further into the ocean, even though they're trying to stand still.
And so that's why it's important to have alternative platforms like Rumble and some of these other options and try to get that the real viewpoints out there.
Try and get truth out there.
And I think we have to, as viewers, be a little bit more responsible for the content that we're watching and actually realize, hey, these people are affecting us.
The propaganda works.
When you listen to Ben Shapiro for hours and hours and Fox News and all these different things, it's going to affect your viewpoint.
It's going to affect your attitude.
It's going to affect your mentality towards things.
They have an agenda.
They're going to get you focused on certain things that they want you to be focused on.
And I think that obviously being a Christian, it's important that we get recalibrated with the truth, with the word of God, with reality.
And when people aren't being recalibrated with some level of truth, then you can see an entire culture.
You can see an entire society just believing lies and going down a very dark road.
And it's important to call these people out, but even take the responsibility to say, you know what, I'm not going to constantly consume this junk.
I'm not just going to keep eating McDonald's and then complaining that our society is getting fat.
I'm going to actually, you know, do something about this and fill in the tunnel in my artery and make sure that I'm not going to be destroyed by the parasites that are eating me within.
royce lopez
I think Ben Shapiro learned a very, very valuable lesson in the past couple of years.
He learned that not everyone's a 19-year-old college kid that you could dunk on during a debate.
He learned that whenever he actually has to talk to real people, he crumbles because Ben Shapiro feels like, you know, you know how we say the left wing always has like industry plants and like they were built.
Ben Shapiro to us has always felt like somebody who was meant to do this.
He's always wanted to be a Hollywood guy.
You know, his family was in Hollywood and this and that.
mike mersh schiele
His cousin's Matilda.
royce lopez
His cousin's Matilda.
Yeah, yeah, that's a real, look it up.
Another thing.
mike mersh schiele
Remember the movie Matilda?
That's Ben Shapiro's cousin.
unidentified
Yeah.
royce lopez
So he's like small worlds.
I mean, look at this.
The end game, in my opinion, of Daily Wire was they always wanted to be a movie company.
That's why you got that hilarious movie, Lady Ballers.
It's because they, that's what they want.
They've always wanted to be Hollywood, but for Hollywood for conservatives.
mike mersh schiele
For ugly people.
royce lopez
For ugly people.
That's true.
And I think that a lot of people consume it.
And I will agree with you, Elijah.
You say this.
I think a lot of people that are consuming it aren't doing it because I think they're doing because they're ignorant.
I think they're doing it because they don't know better.
I think they're going like, oh, this guy says a lot of the stuff that I like.
And they go into it.
And then before they know it, they're repeating the talking points that they're hearing over and over again without actually going like, wait, should we go to another war?
Wait, what do you mean we Iran needs to?
Wait, why is Israel so important right now?
Nobody asks that because they go, they're the winning team because they hired, because they hired Gina Carano.
Like, I get it.
And look, I'm not against having a parallel to Hollywood, but what it's going to make is another Hollywood where you have delete people that are allowed to do stuff.
And if you're not good, you're not going to be in the next daily wire flick.
And I mean, I think that's what we're looking at.
And I think that people just don't know any better because it's easier to follow the tweets that are artificially pushed in your face and actually get dirty and say stuff.
And I also will agree with you said self-censoring.
We're off of YouTube now, but even still, and I'm sure this happens to all of us where in your real life, in your head, you go, I can't say that.
Then I'll be like, yes, I can.
Why am I thinking that?
Because even me, who's like, I really want not over time, you start censoring yourself in real life and you realize, wait a second, we were always allowed to say this.
Why am I thinking this?
Because you let that propaganda on the right now too get into your head and stop you from saying the truth.
elijah schaffer
It's scary.
Can I ask you that?
I want to ask you is that, because I feel like this show could be so much better if I was like as blunt forced trauma as I really think, right?
And I don't, it's some people like, oh, so you're saying you're lying?
No, I'm saying I got a dick, but try pulling it out on a playground and you might be a tunnel digger.
unidentified
But I diggers, right?
elijah schaffer
We got, we got the diggers, dude.
Don't be a digger.
But but I, but I was going to say, like, just because you have a dick doesn't mean you got to pull it out in front of everyone.
So I understand that there is gentlemen's agreement.
mike mersh schiele
Listen, you live your life and I'll live mine.
All right.
elijah schaffer
Come on.
But I, but I, so I'm not saying, you know, just go out and say everything you think about everybody all the time in the most crass way.
Don't be sensitive to your audience.
Don't be sensitive to your country and your culture.
No, these are basics, tenets of life.
But we're not talking about being sensitive.
We're talking about the intentional misguiding of people by avoiding topics because they've attached immediate consequence, which is really scary.
Like if you talk about this, it's not just like, hey, don't say the N-word because the N-word offends blacks.
So then don't say it.
It's like, don't talk about blacks unless you're praising them.
And like atheism is unstoppable.
We'll delete your channel if you make an episode every week about black crime statistics.
Because blacks are only people don't like blacks because of the stereotypes, not because of their behavior.
And you go, well, I don't, I'm a, when I was a kid, I never thought about people's skin color until I first got jumped by black people and then my car stolen.
And then I was in these situations.
And I started going, hey, I saw this, this comedian where he said, I'm not racist because it's, why would I ever judge a group of people by the behavior of the entire group?
You know, like that's not, I wouldn't do that.
And I, and I started realizing, hey, if I stay out of neighborhoods that are black, my chances of safety increase.
My lack of my home is safer.
My family is safer.
Now, that's not to say that I would be upset with a black neighbor.
And I know some people might be, you know, at that level in their life.
unidentified
I'm not.
elijah schaffer
I'm not upset.
I know black people that I like.
This is my Elijah Schaefer as Black Friends moment.
But what I mean is, and like, I'm not retarded.
I don't need to go.
I'm not as far as some people, but I'm also not in the real world realizing that my, okay, I need to, I can't say who this is.
Some people I know who were extremely progressive and liberal, when I asked them if they'd be okay, I was going to try to get a petition started to get a section eight housing unit put in their nice, rich neighborhood in a certain very upend neighborhood.
They were really mad at me.
And I was like, but they're going to be illegals, though.
I don't, I'm not trying to put black people.
We don't like those.
We're going to put illegals because those are the black people, you know?
And they were really mad at me.
No, don't put that out there.
And I was like, so you don't want a section eight housing unit in your neighborhood.
Why do you, your country is your neighborhood, you know?
This is, this is your life.
This is your country.
Why do you want them in your state?
Why do you want them in someone else's neighborhood?
If they're not good enough for you, why are they good enough for other people?
And that's why I hate the speech because we can all agree that just genociding people is probably not a good idea.
It's not a great, it's not a great idea in many cases.
But I will say with these ideas, they're telling us we can't talk about them.
These ideas are bad, but they practice the opposite.
So they're saying we're wrong for saying what we're all doing in the real world and what they're practicing.
They live in gated communities.
They live in white neighborhoods.
They don't interact with illegals.
They fly private.
They have islands.
They go on yachts.
They don't even shop for themselves.
They eat organic.
They have their own farms.
And they say, oh, well, you know, you can't talk about these things.
You can't do these things.
And even when you get up to the upper echelons of trade, everybody knows you got to be careful with your interactions with the Jewish cabal and the people because they'll fuck you up.
And everyone knows that.
Even the Jews will admit that.
Yeah, fuck.
That's how it is, right?
Gilbert Godfrey, I think, recently famously said, I think it was him, or it was George Takai on Twitter years ago on Hitler's birthday and celebrating on Hitler's birthday that Hitler is dead and Jews still control the world.
And I remember there was a comment that ratioed him that was like, so Hitler was right?
unidentified
What?
elijah schaffer
Like, meaning, meaning like these people are fucked.
They're fucked, bro.
And it's like, and it's like, in my head, it's like, you're telling me.
And the best example to kind of end with this topic, let me give everyone a last word is with these videos, like you're telling me that me sharing a video and talking about something that I have and I witnessed and I can go visit and I can see is a conspiracy and hateful.
Then I don't believe anything else you say that's hateful.
I don't care about any conspiracy.
And that's why I think it's backfiring and we're becoming emboldened because if being kidnapped is the Holocaust, if you're late in the show, that's what they said, the New York Post, kidnapping is the Holocaust, then what is the Holocaust?
If they say that we have to fight Hamas because Hamas are terrorists, but then they say that all Palestinians are terrorists, then what the fuck is even a terrorist?
What was the Iraq war?
What is ISIS?
What's going on?
I have to start questioning a lot of narratives.
Do I want to?
No.
And for people that accuse people, well, you're just questioning that because you're a grifter.
You're commenting on racial-based things because you're a grifter.
You think there's financial fucking incentive to touching on these topics?
unidentified
Lol.
elijah schaffer
You think that there's career opportunity from touching on these topics?
You've got to be shitting yourself.
You might be shitting yourself on a mattress in a tunnel for all I know, because the reality is, it's like there's no upside besides caring about your country and your people and your family to discuss these things to raise awareness, to try to have this global movement in this country.
There is only punishment.
There is only downward mobility.
So people that are talking about these things are not grifters.
People that are discussing these things are the real deal.
And you can kind of see who's a grifter and who's not, but who's avoiding certain topics, even if they're talking about the ones that are mostly right.
And that's my last word, Fred.
I'll go throw to the boys, to Marsh and to Royce there.
Go ahead and give your last thoughts on this topic.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah.
Quit being so Jewish.
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
Any last thoughts on this as we wrap up?
royce lopez
I do.
I will say this.
Marshall and I have always done this.
We would have been making a lot more money right now.
mike mersh schiele
So much more money.
royce lopez
If we played the game, we got offers all this time, but we just never wanted to play the game because we're like, no, you know, look, here's the thing.
We talk about politics, obviously, but we're political comedy show.
That's what we are, right?
And we were like, look, we're not going to play the game with these people because if you do, it's a losing battle.
We lost a lot of money because of it.
We're doing better now.
I do believe it because of Rumble and because of X.
The pendulum is swinging back the other way and it's going that way.
And I will say, I think this is a white pill that I think that Elijah in 2017, it would be a lot worse saying these things than it is now.
I think now things that were taboo and I'm thinking they're slowly becoming more socially acceptable when people like, I just use Charlie Kirk as an example, is now using talking points that in 2018, he would call anti-Semitic.
And I think that's, that is, that's, that's great to see, right?
I think people are realizing, wait a second, I can't.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, the Overton window is moving.
royce lopez
I can make money outside of this.
There is a path to actually say things.
I think Elon, for better or for worse, what he did for X was great to have more people be able to say things that normally get banned for.
Rumble, Chris over at Rumble, what he did is great.
And trust me, we have stress test that system.
If you've heard our Rob Smith alert, you would know.
So it's, it's, I do think that it's coming back the other way.
I think that because enough people have said, no, no, no, we're done.
And I mean normies now.
I'm not talking about people on our side.
I've seen enough normies go, all right, this is getting weird now.
I'm done with all you, you know, and people like Dave Chappelle and people like Ricky Gervais going out there going like, you know, how to tell me I'm talking about trans people.
I'll talk about whatever I want.
And the fact is, at the end of the day, none of these companies believe any of this stuff.
They never have.
It's what makes money.
And if people support people that are doing this and it starts making money, guess what?
We're going to be back to where it was before, because at the end of the day, that's what matters.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, don't worry, guys.
Things are going to get worse before they get worse.
royce lopez
Before they get even worse.
pastor jonathan shelley
Obviously, money is controlling the opposition here.
And the truth's what is powerful.
And, you know, you can tell someone a thousand lies and then one truth can slay all of them.
And I think that's why, you know, the stereotypes and we talk about whether it be the black problem in America, we talk about the tunnel system or whatever it is.
You know, people always go to these extremes of genocide, but genocide is typically in the idea of a mass killing for immutable characteristics.
But why don't we bring up the conversation of should we punish people for bad behavior, regardless if it does seem to have all similar characteristics?
If they do all seem to have the same religious background, you know, maybe there's just bad religions out there.
Maybe there just really is evil out there.
And it's important to really emphasize the truth.
I think when it comes to the censorship war that we're fighting, you know, Jesus Christ himself, when confronting the Jews, confronting the Pharisees, he would often preach in parables.
And it's mostly because if he just said everything outright, they probably would have just thrown him off the cliff and killed him before the crucifixion.
And so, you know, I think there is a time and place to have discretion, but ultimately with his disciples and at very select times, he was very bluntly honest.
He told the truth.
Towards the end, when he needed to be crucified, he just went in the temple, told it like it is, Matthew 23.
He told them they were the children of hell and that they were wicked.
And he exposed all the things that they were doing.
He exposed the tunnel system.
And essentially, that's why they had to get rid of him.
They had to kill him.
And so, you know, of course, I'm a pastor.
So I believe the ultimate truth is the Bible, but any truth will resonate with people.
People like to hear the truth.
They want to find it on any issue.
And, you know, I believe it's a spiritual battle at the end of the day.
The devil doesn't want people to hear the truth.
The devil wants people to die and go to hell.
And I believe that the gospel message is what is really driving a lot of this.
I know that me and a lot of my friends have been censored super hard.
And, you know, honestly, it's just anytime we say something from the Bible that's controversial, we're usually the first nuked.
And it's very difficult for us because we don't have these connections.
You know, I don't have any tunnels under my church.
And so it's hard for me to make these kind of deals.
Or if I get censored, I can't just go to this other platform.
And so I appreciate people like you guys and other individuals that are willing to come out from the sewer and essentially make shows that are willing to say the truth on some of these issues.
Because if it wasn't, you know, I wouldn't have an opportunity to also interact with other individuals and speak the truth.
I'm glad that there's rumble.
Twitter, unfortunately, still bans me.
I know it's free speech, but my speech is apparently still too offensive for Twitter.
But, you know, I continue to try because, you know, you never know when just at least one viewer might see it and it might make a difference and impact them.
That one comment on Michael Knoll's post.
Hey, that was pretty powerful to see so many more people like that comment than the original post that tells you that people are resonating with the truth.
And it's important for us to just keep fighting.
Otherwise, we'll all be living in a tunnel soon.
elijah schaffer
You know what?
And that's really good.
I want to end with the Q ⁇ A and the, not Q ⁇ A. We're just going to do the super chats and also just kind of remembering some really great history here.
As Ben Shapiro said, it's biblical prophecy.
If you could bring my screen up here, not sure what he meant by this, but in 2019, he said, keep digging.
Sooner or later, you're bound to dig a tunnel all the way through the planet.
There it is.
That's a real tweet.
That is a real tweet.
So that is Shabbat Shalom to all of you guys.
Isn't that who sent that one in?
That was on.
That was on X.
That was sent in by Sean Kelly.
That's sent that in.
That's so, so this person said, people who write Jews in all caps are usually very credible.
This is what I told.
This is what they do.
They gaslight you where you're like, is that, is that what this is?
Like, is if I write Jews in lowercase?
mike mersh schiele
Is that any weirder?
Is that any weirder than not like writing the O and the word God?
Cause you're so afraid of his wrath.
unidentified
Yeah.
mike mersh schiele
Just say his name.
God.
It's okay.
Are you scared?
You scared to say God?
Just say God.
unidentified
It's okay.
elijah schaffer
So, so, so it's like, hey, it's like, you know, writing pedophiles in all caps makes you very non-credible.
Wait, but the guy's raping kids.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
But at least if you're going to talk about child rapists, use the correct capitalization.
It's like, I don't think that's a weird, that's a weird gaslight there.
We don't talk about gaslights.
We don't talk about gas.
We don't talk about Jews and gas in the same topic.
It's not good.
Let's go ahead and let you guys know that.
Also, Codeman X, I'm going to start reading comments on our X post to get more people to watch live on X. I'll take these as super chats.
Code Man X said, Merch from ROTC recently passed out and suffered a stroke live.
Can you ask about it?
royce lopez
Okay, that's funny.
mike mersh schiele
That is funny.
I was doing Nightwave, which is my night solo show.
And it's a little more loose, a little more drinky and a little more, you know, laid back.
And I took a dab.
I took a dab of weed with a Lucre pen.
And yeah, I'm minorly stroked out a little bit on the air.
I'm okay, though.
royce lopez
It was funny.
He made a horse noise.
mike mersh schiele
I did make a horse noise.
royce lopez
It was very funny.
elijah schaffer
It's due drugs.
You can have strokes on air.
It's a really good reputation.
mike mersh schiele
Kids, don't be like me.
elijah schaffer
Dude, I will, dude.
There was a point where I was live streaming.
Someone was like, dude, your live streams, which by the way, like 2,500 people watching tonight.
So actually across platforms, we're actually basically doing the same amount of views we used to do on my live streams.
Someone's like, used to get like, you know, 3,000 people watching live.
I was like, oh, you mean when I get six guys in a room finishing like three bottles of whiskey over three hours and forcing people to take shots off screen while people are throwing up on camera, falling off seats and like crashing microphones is good content.
Yes, it is.
unidentified
But I remember, I'm not going to say who.
elijah schaffer
I had one guest that was like literally went like, literally messaged me the next morning.
This is a big name person came to my house, went, dude, apparently I went on your show last night.
And I said, yeah.
unidentified
He goes, brother, that's scary.
elijah schaffer
I don't remember.
Are you serious?
And he goes, I started drinking before I came over, apparently, my, my wife said.
And I, I guess, whatever the combination of alcohol, I, did I get home?
I go, you drove home.
royce lopez
Oh, no.
mike mersh schiele
I had a few nights like that.
I've calmed down a lot of my old age.
I had a DUI over 10 years ago and I was like, that's it.
I went to jail one night and I'm like, never, I'm never coming back to this place.
It's not great.
The mattresses in the Jewish tunnels are nicer.
elijah schaffer
I got a DUI on us 21 too.
unidentified
And luckily, I didn't get any more because I kept drinking after that.
elijah schaffer
But I got a DUI on us 21, and that's no fun.
But I ended up doing community service for the Red Cross.
So that made up for it.
All right, a couple more, a couple more question and answers here.
As I'm going to locals, let's just go down the line.
Shelly and Merci and Royce, go ahead and plug where people can find and follow your show as we watch the read the rest of the super chats from Rumble and from locals.
So go ahead and let people know where they can find and follow you.
royce lopez
On Rumble.
On Rumble, Revenge of the Sis.
Just search for Revenge of the Sys on Rumble.
Merch does a night.
Like you said, Night Wave.
I do a day, a day show called Day Wave all on Rumble.
That's where you can find all of our stuff.
And of course, if you really like our stuff, you can join our locals where we do some locals oldly shows every week.
And yeah, that's pretty much where we're at.
We moved over there.
And about two, about two months after we became exclusive, YouTube completely deleted our channel from YouTube.
So that's where we are now.
And we've been really lucky, man.
We've been really lucky because everyone there has been really cool.
We've had some really amazing guests, Owen Troy or Alex Jones.
Like it's been really, really great.
And yeah, man, I mean, being on Leashover, there's been a lot of fun.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, we've had Alex Jones, Alex Stein, Alex Rose.
And we only allow people named Alex on our show.
royce lopez
Only Alex's.
mike mersh schiele
It's a very unique format.
royce lopez
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
We'll have to link up because I'm planning on getting off YouTube eventually.
And we'll have to do some more content because I have weird hours.
So I'm always great for late night streamers or people that are bored to come on and talk shit because it's like 3:30 p.m. or 3:45 p.m. here and it's like middle of the night.
So like tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm in tomorrow.
Hello, everyone.
Jonathan, let people know where they can find you and follow you.
pastor jonathan shelley
Yeah, you can go Babas Bias on YouTube or Rumble.
Usually half the show is on YouTube and then the other half is on Rumble.
Also, I try to be on Twitter, but you usually can't find me.
Band Pastor.
You can also check out our church channel.
It's Steadfast on Rumble.
We only can stream on Rumble for the church channel because I guess that's where the real spicy content is.
But, you know, we have an email list.
You could always email us or our website is sbckjv.com.
Sign up for our email list.
We send out our sermons, even if I'm skeptical of Rumble will keep me on there, but we'll see.
royce lopez
You'll be good.
I promise you.
We know a guy.
You'll be fine.
We'll make sure that nothing happened.
Trust me.
mike mersh schiele
You'll say that because now he's going to be on there tomorrow waving an AR in there.
royce lopez
Do me a favor.
Do not call for violence if we can help you out.
Okay.
mike mersh schiele
You said you would be able to help me.
elijah schaffer
Hey, who do you know?
Because I got to figure out with Rumble because I have a pretty good size audience across cores.
And I need to figure out how to like, do you guys ever get featured on the front page or whatever?
Because we're like, we're always like hidden.
And so I can never get above like 1.1K live viewers.
We like 1.3 tonight because the channel's just like, we're always in the top like 10 live streams while we're live streaming.
We're never featured.
And I don't know how to get out of this.
mike mersh schiele
Dude, we have a contract with Rumble and we got to suck dicks to get on the front page sometimes.
royce lopez
Yeah, but when you do, it's, but I'll tell you what, I'll, I'll hit you up off air.
I'll give you some info because I will help you out.
There is somebody over there, and obviously, your audience is you're big enough that it wouldn't be a problem to at least talk to people over there.
Look, I got to be honest with you, man.
unidentified
They're cool.
royce lopez
They're located in Florida, like an hour away from us.
So sometimes we go over there and do stuff in their studios.
We use their local studios.
They're really great.
And yeah, especially at the hour you're doing it, like I can't imagine they wouldn't put you on the front page.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, because they got nothing going on at that.
Yeah.
royce lopez
Well, not Night Wave.
That guy sucks.
mike mersh schiele
Yeah, I mean, I'm on at 10, but nobody gives a shit.
elijah schaffer
I think I'm moving to Florida this year.
So that'll be good.
I think I'm moving to, I'm going to go get a place in Florida and go hang out with Nick.
So that's good.
Because I want to fucking make content in person.
Plus, we have a big studio in New York.
And I'm like, dude, what are you doing?
mike mersh schiele
Tip: Stay in the center or on the Gulf Coast.
Yeah, advice.
elijah schaffer
Like what?
Uh, Tampa?
royce lopez
Tampa area.
mike mersh schiele
Tampa is my top city.
That's my favorite city.
royce lopez
And Tampa, Clearwater, anything on the Gulf Coast is always going to be better than because it's a better beach.
mike mersh schiele
Because it is a little more base.
elijah schaffer
Offered me this guy that sponsors show Carlos who has an advertisement.
He has this really nice, like luxury office building with like, and he basically said I could just have free space, whatever I want in the building in Tampa.
And it's like luxury.
It's like nice, like glass walls, nice.
You know what I mean?
Tunnels nice.
So that's that's good.
Let me read a couple of these.
No, but I just need to figure this out.
Because I need to figure out how to rumble this year because I'm going more base.
So I imagine my time on YouTube is crazy.
But I also figured since I have been kicked off of YouTube, the smarter strategy, we can talk off camera, but this is to other creators might be to like keep the live stream like a little bit on YouTube and then just delete it after to bring people over.
But just use YouTube to put up street videos, you know, some normie content, whatever.
Like you're doing some covering some story doing a random live stream about the election or some shit.
But like, you know, just don't cover anything about tunnels.
Let me go here to the locals chat, ElijahSchaffer.locals.com.
Make sure that you guys check this out right here.
So Doomsday Cracker sent in this meme here, Jews.
And then people asking about the weird shit they do.
And then everyone says, is this anti-Semitism?
That's you guys are here's a that's a good one.
royce lopez
That's a real good one.
elijah schaffer
Oh, I love meeting people who are just as fucked up as I am to stream.
Somebody here.
royce lopez
Oh boy.
Oh, come on.
Oh, that's really good.
What a reference, too.
I like that.
elijah schaffer
Character from Disney's Atlantis 2001 who loves digging tunnels.
I thought about that.
This is product for Jews, tunnel fill, tunnel plug.
royce lopez
Go for good.
elijah schaffer
Oh, all right.
You can take that off, Brian.
Shout out to Brian, who's now switching the show, which has made it much easier for me to focus.
I just asked a question from somebody.
Where is this?
Somebody said, oh, there was a super chat on Rumble that I did butt stuff for my money, apparently.
I don't know if there was any more Rumbles.
royce lopez
But but stuff for your money, man.
I mean, hey, man, it's actually still better than being on the Daily Wire.
mike mersh schiele
Because you got to work Saturdays.
elijah schaffer
Hey, you know what, though?
Shout out though.
I want to give a shout out at the end here to Censored.
You guys have a deal with Rumble.
I have a deal with Censored.
I want to give a shout out to Censored TV.
You guys see in the corner offensive promo 20% off.
Just like Rumble gave him a channel, you know, Censored's really nice.
I'm on Rumble too, but they really do help to finance the show.
But when I say Rumble finances it, where does Rumble make its money?
They're not getting AdSense money.
They're banned on YouTube as well.
They actually got banned on Rumble.
That's a Censor got banned from Rumble.
royce lopez
Oh, whoa.
Are you serious?
That seems really odd.
elijah schaffer
They got banned from Rumble for I, from my understanding, they got banned after the Jan, like January 6th stuff.
And it was this weird thing at Rumble.
I'm not going to get into it, but it was under different leadership and they've never been allowed back on.
And I had them make another channel.
So they're trying to get back up, but they're like shadow banned.
It's really true.
I've checked it out.
But Rumble's good.
And, you know, YouTube, for instance, just went and started deleting a bunch of videos of Gavin McGinnis that people were posting and clips.
Like these, the censorship's real.
And Censored has like, I'm not, I can't say the number, but the subscriber, the amount of subscribers that Censored has should make alt media realize how fucking, not easy, but how much hunger people want for content that is just funny again.
And censored is a comedy-based show.
Dark comedy, it's a comedy-based network.
People just telling the truth.
And so censored TV only exists because you guys watch it and because you guys have subscriptions.
You know, you can join the chat on my locals.
You can join the community.
Like I said, if you join my community on locals, it's great.
That's really helpful.
That's awesome.
You can click below.
But censored.tv right now, I'm in with them for at least a year.
They want to continue on with me, but they've told me, hey, let's get the subscriptions up.
And that's really what they told me because.
We need to.
So I'm going to tell you, cancel your subscriptions to the other gay, conservative ink stuff.
Just cancel it.
It's gay.
Stop buying their bullshit.
Get a subscription to censored and watch your favorite streamers on Rumble as well.
Like, that's all I got to say.
I always tell people, watch your favorite streamers on Rumble.
Join their locals and watch on Censored.
Like, just stop using their fucking bullshit.
That's just a huge shout out because we've got to do this.
And I really appreciate you guys.
mike mersh schiele
Shout out to Censored TV's Dusty Bogan.
elijah schaffer
Oh, yeah, he's on Friday night.
He's on.
mike mersh schiele
We love that guy.
royce lopez
We've known Dusty since for the longest time.
He's such a good, honest, and real dude.
elijah schaffer
Oh, dude, he's on Friday.
Ben, are you going to be on on Friday or Saturday our time?
Oh, Ben, Ben, Australia Talk and Dusty Bogan are going to be on in-studio.
They're both in studio.
Do you know Dusty Bogan lives like by me?
mike mersh schiele
Have you linked up with him at all?
He's great, man.
unidentified
I just did.
elijah schaffer
I just did.
mike mersh schiele
He's a fantastic, warm guy.
Like, he's just, he's so wholesome.
royce lopez
And, man, he believes, you know, he's as genuine off air as he is on there.
We've known Dusty Bogan, I've got to tell you, for years and years and years.
And he's another dude who was like doing those man on the streets interviews when it was really uncomfortable.
unidentified
Yeah.
royce lopez
Our comfort was really uncomfortable.
It was really uncomfortable.
And he didn't care.
He goes, I got my own job.
I don't really give a shit.
What are you going to do to me?
You know, so shout out to Dusty.
He rules.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And then just to let you guys know as we close, I just want to remind you that we have this going on tomorrow night.
Let me see if I can bring it up here.
Yeah, check this out.
This is right here.
The debate is going on tomorrow night.
It's going to be on Rumble and X and on censored.tv.
This is, again, Gavin McGinnis versus Nick Fuentes debate on Zionism.
I honestly think it'll probably be the most watched show we've had on Rumble since I got my Rumble channel back mid last year.
I feel like this is a pretty heavy lineup for a topic.
And it's, you know, anything Fuentes is on typically does pretty well.
But when you can get Fuentes talking about Jews, that's even better.
And now he's not being put up against fucking retard.
So like Gavin McGinnis is witty.
And if you want to watch, before you watch this debate and you don't know Gavin, go watch his takedowns of people on Fox News.
You can watch compilations.
He takes people down.
So I don't, you guys said Vincent's awesome and people said Adam King is awesome, depending on your viewpoints.
And I know they are too, but I'm saying you have, these are not fucking retarded people.
Okay.
So like this is not Hoes versus Chads on the whatever podcast.
You got dumb bimbos talking.
royce lopez
Excuse me.
We call that over.
Shout out to Rhiann Stone, by the way, on Twitter.
We call it Fresh and Fit Ohio.
Fresh and Fit Ohio.
elijah schaffer
It's so good.
But I appreciate it.
And you guys are on there.
Last time, thank you to my guests, Royce and Mersch from the Revenge of the Sis podcast.
You can find it on Rumble and also to Jonathan Shelley from the Baptist Bias.
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