WHY is Everyone Fat, SICK and Unhealthy? | GUEST: Chris Burres
In the western world today, life expectancy is down, and obesity rates are up. WHAT IS GOING ON?! Today we're joined by MyVitalC creator Chris Burres to get to the bottom of those questions and WHY it is that people in the west will DENY, and even worse, MAKE EXCUSES for skyrocketing levels of obesity.Show more Extend your Life 90% With Olive Oil and ESS60: https://myvitalc.com/offensive Show less
Well, we continue to worry about the border crisis, the wars in Israel and Ukraine.
We forget about the war that's our own body.
When you look at charts specifically about something as simple as obesity, you see that the leading country with the largest economy, the United States, has an obesity rate of 40%.
And that's conservative.
Now, obesity is the leading or one of the leading causes of disease.
It's not the only leading cause, but it's a sure sign that there's something wrong in the West.
It's causing an issue with early death.
People are not sleeping well.
Mental health is deteriorating.
And people are not living as long.
In fact, I believe 2022 was the first year in over a decade that the average life expectancy of a human being went down.
So what the hell is going on?
How can we outlive our parents?
How can we improve our destiny?
Because health is time.
Time is power and power is longevity and the reason for life.
I'd like to welcome to the show chief scientist, Chris Beres.
So first of all, I know we're going to talk about not only your story, how you're affecting the health world, your research, but we're going to try to talk about a couple stories here as well.
And one of the things that I want to bring up is this weird thing that we have going on in the West.
I know you know what I'm talking about.
And it's this shame culture where we act like everything is okay.
There's nothing wrong.
And it's completely normal that people are 75 pounds overweight, that they're living only into their 40s, that cardiovascular disease is on the rise, that young, healthy sports players are dropping dead on the field.
News anchors are passing out on prime time.
And it's all okay.
And there's no problem.
Why is it in the West we are so in denial of the crisis that we have of declining health?
Yeah, I think, I mean, this is a complex question and not really, I think it's not even a health question.
It's actually a mentality question.
And I would just throw this into like things are so good that we can start to have bizarre conversations, right?
Like as a country, greatest country on the planet, right?
As a country, things are so easy here that we start to have these debates about things that seemed or in the past were clearly not debatable.
I think you see this movement of, you know, let's make sure we're not fat shaming.
And I don't think the word shame is the right word for it, right?
Like, yeah, maybe you shouldn't run around shaming people, but you certainly shouldn't be feeding into the misconception that it's okay to be that way.
It doesn't matter to me that people are overweight, right?
Or specifically obese.
It actually matters to them.
And I would like some way to communicate to them, hey, like take care of yourself.
Like you don't look healthy.
And to run around saying, I'm proud to be this way is literally to say I'm proud to be healthy.
You might as well catch the flu and run around sneezing on everybody going, I'm proud to have the flu.
Like that's not the right mentality that I think people should have.
And I want to bring up this video because I think this is actually pretty funny.
It's particularly a video from Korea.
And I feel like Asian people, besides, you know, the many of things that they're good at or not good at, one thing that I do appreciate about their culture and I have always is how direct they are.
They don't sugarcoat things.
And this is a, I believe, a bus station or a train station.
And if you look at like Latin cultures, they're very comfortable calling you flaquito, which means skinny or gordo, which means fat.
And I don't know that that's the right attitude, but maybe it is the right attitude.
Maybe it's just like, look, you look fatter than the last time that I saw you.
Maybe you need to hear this so that you can make adjustments, like, or know that whatever adjustments you made from the last time I saw you are not good.
Or if you're going flaquito, maybe you're getting too skinny.
You know, you got to keep an eye on this.
So maybe that it's that transparency, that's openness about, hey, this is just an observation of where I see that you're at.
I'm not insulting you because you're fat.
I'm not insulting you because you're skinny.
I'm just saying, hey, you're fatter than the last time I saw you.
And that is certainly not, it doesn't seem to be the America, the culture that we have here in America.
It's like, let's not talk about the fat person.
Let's not talk about the skinny person.
I don't think you need to talk about them behind their back.
I think we need to have more open conversations with them, you know, face to face because they need to be healthier.
Well, and I think you're familiar with this, but when you look at this, because I want to jump a little bit into giving the audience, the SOPs are slightly offensive backers a little bit of your story of who you are, your passion for health as we get into some of these subjects, knowing that we'll probably end up talking about a little bit with the reliability of big pharma, how we run to big pharma for all of our solutions, why we have no beauty standards anymore, why testosterone is dropping, why there's so many issues and why we're dying early.
But if you look at this chart here from the 1950s of what an average healthy person looked like, I don't know, how tall are you, by the way, Chris?
Yeah, you can add three inches now, but you're 5'9, 5'11.
You look as I'm like around 6'2 right there.
And even there, it says for someone like me, I think I'd be considered having a medium frame.
I should be between 171 and 184 pounds.
I'm 205 pounds.
And you look at women, I mean, the women, the size they should be, it says that a woman, right, let's say an average size, maybe 5'6, 5'5, should be even with a large frame, like 145 pounds with a large frame.
And I think the average weight of a woman today is like 150, 160.
This is only in 75 years approximately, Chris.
We've just given up.
We've just said we're just unhealthy and that we're on the decline.
So I want to know from you particularly when you see this, when you see the move where America, where the West, within less than a generation, has just completely given up on the progress towards longer living, better experience, healthier life.
You told me that you used to be an improv comedian.
So I'm confused because you are wearing a lab coat.
You are wearing glasses.
You look like a scientist.
You are a chief scientist.
How the hell do you go from doing comedy to becoming somebody who invests in health and life and cares about the longevity of people?
Well, so just to share with you, yes, I did comedy improv, right?
Like that's the whose line is it anyway style of improv.
And I did that for five years.
That was just something that I did on weekends.
And I did get paid.
Not very much.
Let's not be unrealistic here, but I did get paid.
So that was five years.
And I loved it.
Actually, comedy improv is one of the, for me, was always one of the most kind of mentally relaxing things that I could do.
And it was also a conscious decision for knowing that communication needs to be done.
It needs to be done well.
And wanting to be able to, like, it's kind of like this, this particular show that we're doing right now.
There's no script, right?
We got some ideas and we're bouncing them off.
It's important.
And in fact, the first class that I took related to improv started off with, hey, how many people here woke up today, reached over to their nightstand and grabbed their script for today?
Like nobody does that.
So we really are all doing improv.
That's kind of a little bit about the improv.
My background really starts way back when I was in college.
I always knew that I was going to be an entrepreneur and I didn't know exactly what kind of entrepreneur I was going to be.
So my mindset was, let me study mechanical engineering, one of the faster ways to get to the highest salary possible so I could earn some money and invest in a corporation.
And that didn't work out exactly as planned for two reasons.
One, and by the way, this is this whole story is in my book, Live Longer and Better.
The first thing that went wrong is engineering is a really tough discipline and it ended up taking me six years to get through.
I did get two minors in that process.
The other is I ended up starting a company with my business partner and we actually opened that company back in 1991 and we're the first company to actually deliver commercial quantities of carbon nanomaterials.
Now, that's a mouthful.
Let me just describe a little bit of this and kind of turn it back over to you so it can guide the conversation.
I'm holding up a model of what is called a buckyball.
This molecule was discovered in 1985 here in Houston.
That's in at Rice University.
That's where I'm based here in Houston.
And this molecule, if you're listening, just imagine a soccer ball where the lines on the soccer ball represent the bonds between the carbon atoms.
You have a spherical molecule of 60 carbon atoms.
It was discovered in 1985.
The three scientists who discovered it won the Nobel Prize in 1996.
And as I mentioned, my business partner and I started manufacturing that molecule in 1991.
So really five years before they were awarded the Nobel Prize.
And so this is going to sound really strange because your question was like, how do you end up in the supplement industry?
Let me tell you the amazing properties that this molecule has.
It's amazing in industrial applications.
It performs as well or better than the current best material in almost every application.
So it makes better inks, better batteries, better tires, better photocells.
And this is where people are like, we're clearly not talking about a supplement.
Wait, the story gets a little bit worse.
This shape right here on the exterior of the soccer ball cage, it's reminiscent.
It actually has the same shape as benzene, which is a known toxin and known to be carcinogenic.
So they assumed that this spherical molecule was toxic.
So they put it in a toxicity study.
And in that toxicity study, the test subjects that were really given the My Vital C formulation lived 90% longer than the control group.
So that's the single longest longevity experimental result in history.
And that was the kind of thing that changed my direction from being a happy-go-lucky carbon nanomaterial scientist.
There is such a thing.
That's me and shifted into getting into the supplement and really the health and longevity industry.
Yeah, we got to talk about that because, you know, obviously, you know, before we even, you know, go so far into discussing health, because I do want to talk about longevity.
And this is really passionate to me.
People know on the show, the show has been sponsored right now, particularly by My Vital C, which is why I wanted to talk to you so much because it's such a great product.
I'm actually out.
I don't mean to call you dude because you're because you're a scientist and I want to be respectful, but I'm going to call you dude because I'm out.
So I need to get more because I ran out.
And the problem is I have I have it get shipped to me here.
So it just takes a little longer to get to me.
It's really quick in the United States and stuff.
It comes really fast.
But one of the things I want to tell you guys about that's really important is you go to myvitalcy.com.
You've got to check this out.
One of the cool things is, is not only is this product absolutely amazing that he said it helps with longevity, but what does longevity mean?
We'll discuss that later in the show, but this will give you more focus, more energy, and better sleep.
So not only when you're able to be focused, not only when you have focus, you have energy, not only when you have energy, do you have more vitality?
And not only when you have vitality, are you going to end up resting better and getting sleep and you have more thorough sleep?
But what about a product that can both give you energy, give you a bump without the crash, without the come down that you're going to get with, you know, insane, insanely toxic things like energy drinks, or even sometimes you get like disgusting stomach ulcers and stuff from coffee.
You've got to find something that's going to help you.
Now, I won't go as detailed into this as I normally would with a normal ad read because we are going to talk about it.
And I have the amazing person who is responsible for this here.
But I'd like to ask you, Chris, rather than going deeper into this, there's two main ingredients in this.
There's two main products.
And since you're finally here on the show, just talk to me a little bit about this and how it's actually improving people's lives, how it's giving energy.
How is it bringing longevity?
Because I've used it and I can read it, but you know this product inside and out and you care about people and your passion for people has caused you to design this, to refine this.
So tell me a little bit about this because why should people get this?
So a lot of people, when I tell that, tell them about the original story, the original study where the rats live 90% longer, they typically have one of two answers.
So the first answer, if they're from New York, they were like, why does this research exist?
Chris, you need to bury this research.
We do not want rats to live longer.
Like stop talking about it.
The next is people are saying, okay, so these rats live 90% longer.
Why did they live 90% longer?
What's the mechanism of action?
And the medical community thinks about aging usually from two vantage points.
One of them is oxidation and the other one is inflammation.
So I'm going to talk about inflammation first.
So what the FDA allows us to say regarding inflammation is that our product addresses inflammation, at least inflammation related to exercise induced inflammation.
So we've all had a tough workout.
We've all just walked longer one day than normal and woken up the next day and felt that sense of inflammation.
Our product, the FDA, allows us to say that our product addresses that type of inflammation.
We're not able to talk about other types of inflammation.
Those would be because the FDA equates those discussions about inflammation with the actual diseases of inflammation.
So this is cancer, arthritis.
You've got cardiovascular disease.
These are the cancers of really of aging and of inflammation.
We just need to do more research before we're able to talk about those.
And frankly, that's a lot more research.
That's going to be a lot farther down the road.
What we can say, just to kind of wrap up inflammation, is that we fit perfectly in an anti-inflammatory diet, right?
And that diet is associated with a group of people that are called the blue zone people.
Those people tend to live longer, have reduced incidences of stroke, have reduced incidences of heart attack.
Like we fit into that anti-inflammatory diet.
Now, the next piece, this starts to get, we'll get, here we go, like jump into the mitochondria.
So we know from peer-reviewed published research that this molecule gets into the mitochondria.
And as you mentioned, the mitochondria is the powerhouse of every cell.
Every cell in our body has between 50 and 5,000 mitochondria, and they're really responsible for converting the food that we've digested and kind of thrown into our blood system, taking that, those nutrients and converting them into ATP.
That's the energy that every cell needs to do its job.
So your liver cell needs ATP to do liver cell stuff, your kidney cell, et cetera, your heart cell.
So ATP is that power source.
The mitochondria provides that power source.
Well, like any power source, like you think about a traditional car going down the road, it's got exhaust coming out, right?
The catalytic converter manages that.
You think about a power plant, it's got a smokestack and you've got smokestack scrubbers that are taking care of the pollutants there.
In the case of mitochondria, they produce reactive oxygen species.
And the typical mechanism for managing those reactive oxygen species are two antioxidants called glutathione and melatonin, right?
And melatonin, interesting, the sleep hormone, this all ties into it together, right?
So the ESS60 molecule, that's what we call this if you're going to consume it, is known to be in the mitochondria.
And we believe that it acts, we call it the boss theory, the buffering oxidative stress system.
So when it's in the mitochondria, and if the mitochondria is overwhelmed and producing lots of reactive oxygen species, the ESS60 molecule can hold on to those to make sure that they don't do any damage.
And the way I like to draw an analogy is imagine you're at the end of Mardi Gras, you're on Bourbon Street, and the reactive oxygen species are drunkards running around smashing cars, smashing windows, and you've got glutathione and melatonin as the police who handcuff themselves to these reactive oxygen species and get them off Bourbon Street.
If there's too many of these reactive oxygen species, they just get attached to this molecule so they can't do any damage.
And then when that mitochondria, when Bourbon Street is able to replenish the police, the glutathione or melatonin, they come and take it off of the ESS60 molecule and get it out of the body.
This is a theory.
It's got some good supporting literature behind it.
And it's a unique method, which explains the head-to-toe testimonials that we have about our product.
Yeah, you know, I think one of the craziest things, though, is like very rarely have I found a supplement that I feel like not only gives me energy, but also like helps me to feel, it's weird, it helps me to feel more rested when I wake up or just kind of this sort of like, The best way I could describe it as the positive effects of like eating a healthy meal while having a nice jolt of energy.
So it's just like this sense of well-being.
And it's, and it's not even placebo because it, you can, a lot of things when you drink it or when you have it, it actually, you can actually sense that it's working, which I really do like.
And people don't realize that your body is reactive, right?
Your body just really responds to what you put into it.
It's extremely important.
This includes like, this is why you don't even need to be religious to have discussions on like pornography or discussions on, you know, alcohol abuse or things.
Because the truth is, is, you know, whether you think pornography is immoral or moral, that's your religious, you know, experience.
But the science does prove you can get addicted to pornography.
And if you're addicted, you can overload your dopamine receptors and you can, you know, create new pathways.
There's a science to life.
There is a order and a design.
And you have to be putting good things into it.
But it's so weird to me when I talk to people like you who have decided that you want to create stuff to help people like my Vital C. You want to actually help people improve because so many people who are smart just try to make things as cheap as possible and they don't care what they put into it.
That they'll literally, this drove me crazy, man.
They'll boast on their packaging has no artificial flavors or preservatives.
Like, hey, we made a shitty product, but it's not as shitty as the other shitty products.
And you're like, that's your boast is that you just didn't put as much poison in your packaging as somebody else did, but you didn't say it's healthy.
You didn't say it's good.
You didn't say it has nutrients.
You didn't say it's revitalizing us.
And they didn't put that in there.
So it's kind of like, for me, one thing that I don't understand about the scientific mechanism of this is explain to me your reasoning for with the with the two main ingredients, why you chose those together, like, why are they complementary?
I know how they work individually, but I'm not advanced enough scientifically to know why those are where you landed and why they have such a powerful effect in such a positive way.
Well, if you think back to the original study right, this is where the test subjects and my company provided the material were actually mentioned in the original publication you think back to that study.
It was a toxicity study.
The scientists were confirmed, convinced that this molecule was going to be toxic and so like, well, how do we introduce this molecule into an animal model?
In this case it's whist our rats and they're like, well, we can dissolve it in different kinds of oils.
Some things it'll dissolve in are just known to be toxic, like flat out, like it will dissolve in gasoline, and you're not going to give this molecule in gasoline to a rat and go, the rat died.
It must be the molecule right, like?
There's no logic there.
So they're trying to find some way to introduce it into the rats in a way that it's going to be bioavailable.
So olive oil, I mean the study was out of Paris.
We just kind of figured that that they had some olive oil lying around.
There's some data that the, the ESS60 molecule can dissolve in olive oil, avocado oil, mct oil, and so they had some avocado And avocado, excuse me, olive oil around, and they dissolved as much as they could.
By the way, you can't get much of this molecule into olive oil.
You can only get about 0.8 milligrams per milliliter.
It's a really tiny amount.
And you actually have to spin it.
If you're doing small quantities, you have to mix it for two full weeks.
So it's not like sugar and water where the sugar goes into solution right away.
You actually have to mix it for two weeks.
And we actually found, and we think like there are some competitors in the space with lower concentrations because we have the lab equipment and we tested it.
And what we found is when you went to larger quantities, when you're mixing large vats of this, you actually have to spin it for three weeks.
And our thought process is that one, the competition in the space doesn't actually have test equipment to be able to test it on an hourly basis.
And two, they're just assuming two weeks is good enough.
And we know it not to be good enough.
So it takes a long time to make this product.
And so, really, the answer to your question is: we wanted to take this material we were convinced was toxic.
We wanted to get as much of it as we could into the rats in a bioavailable manner.
So one of the interesting things you talked about is this idea.
And I'll be, because I'm always really honest with my audience and I don't, I don't like bringing products onto the show where the people don't believe in their products.
That's why I like, and I don't, I don't put any product on the show or anything if the company doesn't back their own product, because I think that a lot of people are full of shit.
They're just, they are, they really are.
And they're willing to make money.
I always say this, you know, they're willing to take so much from you that they won't even just take your money.
They're willing to actually take your life.
While promising to give you right.
It's like the joke any course.
That's like promising to teach you how to make money.
They're probably taking your money to teach you how to make it, and I want to bring up a really important uh discussion here, because this is something that is on my mind and it really does.
Uh, let's see if I can get this a little bit bigger here.
It really does.
It really does hurt me to read stuff like this, and one of these is our reliance on supplements and big pharma.
That makes people doubt the effectiveness because of mislabeling, because of everything promising to quickly cause us to lose weight.
You know oh, you want energy in the morning.
Um, you know, the only thing you need to do is take this shot and your whole life is going to change and your marriage is going to get better and you're going to overcome your drug addiction and God is going to give you a better seat in heaven.
You know, like the, the claims are never matching the product and a lot of times there are negative side effects, and now we have to be able to talk about this with health.
Sometimes products that promise to help you can hurt you or they don't promise a lot.
One of these that's going on right now is ozempic.
It's a diabetes medication and this brings up the discussion of the problem with dishonesty from supplement companies from big pharma that making promises they can't keep.
Now we'll connect this in a little bit to my vital c.
We'll talk a little bit about what we've actually seen, it work or disconnected in terms of yes disconnected, but connect it in terms of the difference between lies from big pharma and how dangerous that can be and how that impacts the real health community and people like yourself that are actually helping people like how dangerous it is.
These people are ruining the credibility of real science and we saw this in Covid, where the science isn't a scam.
Science is real, it's observable, it's testable, it's an approach, it's a method, and now the scientific community is completely in shambles.
Modern medicine has so many incredible aspects of life-saving opportunities and now people think doctors are trying to kill them, and so people are really skeptical of health, healthy things.
They're really skeptical of scientists.
Now there's a healthy skepticism and one of the reasons why there's this product called ozempic and the side effect is that it causes people to lose weight.
Now this woman this is the craziest story she said, if I knew what could happen, she would have been.
She wouldn't have been taking it.
This is being pushed by the way.
I'm only pressing this.
This is being pushed by people in media.
It's being pushed by doctors.
This is this is why I say I don't back companies like this, because doctors will take the money and then people die, and so what?
This is that.
Ozempic is a diabetes drug with an attractive side effect of significant weight loss.
This is 60 minutes, by the way, so This is a credible source, but Trish saw it on TV and got a prescription from her doctor after five months taking Ozempic and then another weight loss drug, Saxenda or Saxenda, however you want to say it.
She lost 16 kilos.
It's a lot, about 35 pounds.
But Roy said the side effects made Trish constantly ill.
And on January 6th, something went seriously wrong.
She had a little bit of brown stuff coming out of her mouth.
Okay, let's just, that's just disgusting.
And I realized she wasn't breathing and started doing CPR.
He said it was just pouring out.
And I turned her onto her side because she couldn't breathe.
Trish died that night.
Her death certificate states the cause was acute gastrointestinal illness.
While it doesn't draw any direct link to the weight loss medication, Roy believes the drugs contributed to his wife's death.
I never thought that you could die from it, he said.
And if you look at this, you go and you just look and type in things like this.
Australian woman dies after taking weight loss drug days before daughter's wedding.
You see all of this stuff occurring and people will still push it.
Doctors go and say it's safe and effective.
This will help you because they're so desperate to have a solution to their unhealthy lifestyle that they're even willing to do something that ultimately, what, you're trying to live, but it ends up killing you.
And I feel like that's what we're, that's what we're in, Chris.
That's, that's the world that we're in.
People are so desperate for solutions to the health crisis, to their obesity, to their problems.
They're willing to do things that actually might cause the opposite effect, that might end their life out of this.
And they trust these companies.
So I want to talk to you about this aspect first.
Why is it that companies like this go online, go on the internet and tell people, yep, just take this drug.
That'll cure your obesity.
That'll help your problem.
Why can doctors and people on TV and hosts guarantee a product?
And I want you to touch on this aspect.
How does this hurt the credibility of real research, real science, yourself, colleagues, friends who are like actually helping people and genuinely making real products?
How does this false advertising and greed and disgusting, destructive behavior cause problems for real people trying to make real results in the world?
Yeah, what you're describing in painful detail is, so let me kind of map out the story.
In 2012, mid-2012, this study comes out and the test subjects literally given my molecule, I provided the material, lived 90% longer than the control group.
In 2013, we start getting phone calls.
Hey, how much of this stuff should I be consuming?
And I'll be honest, what we heard was, hey, Chris, you're selling this to research institutions around the world to put in inks, batteries, tires, and photocells.
How much should I be consuming?
And we were very clear, you should be consuming zero.
We actually added not for human consumption to our labeling.
So imagine from 1991 all the way to the mid-2013, we don't have not for human consumption because it's not a concern.
We add it in mid-2013.
Now, just to be clear, in the literature, it was clear this was safe already.
Like again, in the talk, the famous toxicity study, the rats live 90% longer than the control group.
That is not toxic.
It's a safe molecule.
But we're conservative scientists and we're like, all right, like it's just better.
We won't take this.
And we won't recommend that people take it.
But for the next four years, we're actually getting phone calls, about two phone calls a week.
Hey, my knee pain is gone.
And literally, no joke, we're like, wait a minute, you mean the knee pain of your rat?
Because we have this available.
It says not for human consumption and you shouldn't be consuming it.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How much can I max out at?
All right.
So we know these kind of crazy biohackers are doing this.
We actually internally know that it's safe.
But at that point, my business partner and I would get together every quarter, basically every three months, and we say, Hey, this is obviously, it could be a supplement.
Do we want to get into this industry?
And we, every single time, we said no.
In fact, in the middle of this, between 2013 and the latter part of 2017, I actually found a peer-reviewed published research paper that looked at the supplements that are on the market and found that 50% of the supplements that are on the market don't have in them what they say they have in them.
And those are like the good cases.
There's actually supplements on the market that have medicines that they legally can't sell, right, without the prescription, without a prescription that are in some of these.
Like these, it's it is a wild west.
And each time my business partner and I looked at this, we were just like, we don't want to be in this industry.
Well, fast forward, the latter part of 2017, a guy with a big YouTube following starts talking about all the benefits he's getting taking it on a daily basis.
And our phone switched from two times a week to 10 times a day, right?
So now my business partner are looking at it and we're going, what should we do with this?
Yes, we're conservative nanomaterial scientists and we like to be prudent.
This is obviously like at this point, we like without a doubt, we know it's safe.
What do we want to do with this?
And so we stopped and we asked ourselves two questions.
And I think the first question is the question, you're wondering if people or why they don't ask themselves this question.
And it's a moral question.
Am I comfortable selling this?
I take it.
My wife takes it.
Everybody on our team takes it.
By the way, it's not a requirement to work here.
Like you can work here and not take it.
They just know the literature and do take it.
So yes, I am comfortable selling it.
And then the next is the FDA and the FTC, and you got to cross T's and dot I's.
And we made that decision at the beginning, really latter part of 2017, early 2018, to like bring this to market.
And part of that consideration was there were already people on the market.
They were already delivering flawed products that fit in the exact paradigm of that peer-reviewed, published paper that I mentioned.
50% of the products on the, it's actually worse in our industry, and that's a disappointment.
But that's why we got we can bring the same scientific standards to production of this health supplement that we were bringing to research institutions around the world.
So if there's a research institution and you know their name, if they did research on carbon nanomaterials, they probably bought it from us.
We're talking like MIT, Naval, Aero, Navy, Aero Weapons Station, IBM, any of these big labs, if they've done research on carbon nanomaterials, they've probably purchased from us all the way back to 1999.
We know how to deliver this high quality.
So I think the short answer to your question after that really long dialogue is people aren't really focused on that first question, the moral question.
Yeah, I think that is a really, a really important thing.
I want to play a video because there is real effects, right?
And one of the things is between countries like Australia, I find this to be really funny, is like Australia will block products that genuinely work and help.
Like every country that's corrupted by big pharma, they will block the natural products like MyVital C or anything.
They'll block a product.
But when big pharma can make billions off of something that has the potential for harm, they will force it on people.
This is the number one country for forcing vaccines on people for COVID, which I hate even calling it a vaccine because it was an experimental gene therapeutic product.
People said, how can you call it that?
I say, well, because in my history of working with vaccines and mRNA technology deliverables, I wouldn't have called it a vaccine.
I just would have used an experimental name because it hadn't been tested.
We haven't seen it over a decade.
So I just don't want to call it a vaccine until we can prove that it has this preventative or at least treatment-based standard.
And now we're seeing that these vaccines didn't meet the requirements, right?
They didn't, they didn't match what was what was said about them.
And I know some people felt like the risk of taking them was better than not.
And that's all personal choice and whatever.
Personal choice, I don't care about.
Do whatever the hell you want.
It's your body.
Being forced to take it to the point to where I had, this is crazy.
Okay, the audience is going to, well, they'll believe it, but this is crazy.
I had a young fellow come up, a little young Meg, as they would call him here, come up and ask me for donations because they're working with the Queensland government to create this pen and he compared it to an EpiPen.
I don't know the mechanisms, but essentially it can reverse the effects of stroke and heart attacks that they're developing.
And they want to get one into every home in Australia because there's a sudden rise of cardiovascular disease, heart failure, and stroke.
And the reason why is they don't know why.
It just upticked in the last 18 months.
And so people are so concerned with like, they look at that and they go, there are some like, that's crazy.
You can just push a product on someone.
You don't even know the side effects.
And all of a sudden, you have this massive problem in the world.
So my point is, is as a culture, as a country, we seem to be going backwards, right?
In the West, where we're like killing people, we're not making them live longer.
We forced young people.
And, you know, the number one inference of myocarditis from the vaccines was in young men who didn't need it.
So why did we force it?
Why did we force it on people?
Well, because it was about profit and we've realized it wasn't about helping people.
Now, when I come to your product and I see the difference, you're saying something that is different to what's going on.
You're looking at bringing longevity.
And I have to know this because I don't like bullshit, man.
I don't like it.
And I really want to know this.
We know that it's caused longevity in people, but you actually, no homo, you actually look good.
You look young.
You look, you look.
And I know you're young, but I mean, you, you don't look bad.
And a lot of people, they don't look good, man.
You look at Biden, you look at people out there.
They look like they're falling.
They look like they're falling apart.
I don't know what they're injecting to stay alive.
People using fillers and they're just like, they don't, they look like shit.
Yeah.
But you don't.
So I trust you because you say you take this and the people I've seen take it, the testimonials, they do look good.
And they seem, you do seem like you have vitality, that you have energy, and you shouldn't, because you're an engineer, you're a scientist, your life should be horrible.
You should be drained, living on coffee, you know, ham sandwiches in the lounge room.
So it's like, how, like, with seeing how bad everything is, people are looking for something.
They're like, hey, I actually do want to turn things around.
I do want this.
What have you actually seen?
Like testimonials.
I know you mentioned a little bit biohacking, but like in your own life and people, how is this product breaking through that narrative?
How is it breaking through?
You know, like I said, big pharma, everyone, it's all about hurting us, harming us, cutting our lives down for their profit.
How is this product different?
How is this really improving people's lives that you've seen?
I want practical examples here, like because a bottle, we can all read the bottle.
We can all go to my myvitalc.com slash offensive.
We can all put an offensive code.
We can get the $15 off.
But people, I want people to buy this for their friends.
I want people to get it for Christmas gifts.
I want people to stock up on it because I ran out quicker than I thought that I would because I ended up using it.
So, I'm going to go back to, again, just real quickly, most consistent testimonial, take it in the morning, mental focus and energy during the day, better sleep that night.
By the way, that's very unusual.
I'm not aware of other things that you can take in the morning and improve your sleep at night, right?
There are things you can do.
You can exercise in the morning, that'll help you sleep at night.
You can get exposure to the sun and get your circadian rhythm in line with the rising and falling of the sun, and that will help you sleep that night.
But in terms of things that you might take, I'm not aware of any that you take in the morning and sleep better.
I'm going to talk a little bit about sleep, so I'm going to share some anecdotes.
I've got to throw in our FDA disclaimer.
So, the FDA has not evaluated our product, it is not intended to treat, diagnose, cure, or prevent any disease.
And I like to just share of the anecdotes I'm sharing, just assume they won't happen to you, right?
I guess it's a better assumption.
If you go look at the research and you want to try the product, then you know to go to myvitalc.com forward slash offensive.
My business coach, I love it, and I'm very much the scientist that you see in front of you, where I'm very interested in binary testimonials.
I'm not interested in, well, I wake up every day and I feel better.
Like, that's just too objective, too subjective.
And so, I don't appreciate that.
My business coach describes it this way: for 50 years, I needed an alarm clock to wake up.
And when I'm taking My Vital C, because every now and then he runs out, but when he's taking My Vital C, he wakes up before the alarm clock.
Now, he's a business coach, so he's got to go to business dinners, he's got to, you know, go mingle with people, have a few drinks.
And so, even when that's going on, he's waking up before the alarm clock.
So, really solid testimonial about sleep.
I'm going to give you, I kind of like this one testimonial because it has a couple of components.
One of them being arguably the worst testimonial about a supplement in history.
So, brace yourself.
So, one of our biggest distributors here in Houston, she originally ordered the product for her dog, right?
She just, she had no intent on taking it.
She gave it to her dog and she noticed such a profound difference in her dog that she decided to take it.
Now, one of the things I really like about that, right, is there is no placebo effect for dogs, right?
Like, ironically, they're not smart enough to trick themselves into going, oh, I got my dropper of oil today, so I'm going to have more energy.
I'm going to be more lively.
I'm going to be more puppy-like.
So, I like that aspect.
Anyway, so she starts taking the product.
And I did a video with her.
And on the video, she said, Hey, Chris, you know, if you had asked me three months in, have I noticed anything?
I actually would have initially said, No, I haven't noticed anything.
But then I took stock of my life and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm working later into the evening.
She's an entrepreneur.
I wake up earlier and I was never a morning person.
And then here it is, arguably the worst testimonial about a supplement ever.
I noticed that I cleaned my garage, right?
Now, that sounds like a horrible testimonial, but it also does mean something, right?
The reason you're not getting your garage clean or that chore, your car fixed, or whatever, getting your laundry done has a lot to do with two things, right?
The emotions behind it, especially with your garage.
You might have to deal through, you know, X's and stuff.
So there's emotional baggage.
And the other one is just how tired are you?
And if you're getting enough sleep and you have the energy, then you're knocking off that task.
So that's, I do like to share the worst testimonial in supplement history.
No, yeah, I was going to say, I think one of the main things is that energy is what I find to be one of the problems because I, you know, I've suffered with insomnia.
I think it's largely related to not having a bedtime growing up compared with also being loaded up on Adderall as a child.
So that just breaks the circadian rhythm.
I feel like there's a lot of harmful effects.
But I also think that the energy is something that nobody talks about.
Like, and the way I would describe it is to me, energy is the intersection of spiritual well-being, emotional stability and restfulness.
So like bodily health, because energy, you know, you can get, you can get a lot of sleep and not wake up with any energy.
I mean, you know, you can be in a good mood, but still be tired.
And, you know, you can also be in a good place morally and be reaching your goals, but you still can't give time to your family because you just don't have the energy to hang out with your kids.
You know, there's a lot of good men out there who lack energy.
And there's a lot of men who are not good men who have a lot more energy.
And that's why they remain not good men because they can do a lot of bad stuff in the world and they have the vitality to do it.
And I bring this up because let me see if I can find this.
One of the things that is very interesting to me is the idea of what we've lost in terms of beauty standards.
Like there, I saw this video from it's from a Slavic country.
The Slavic, this is Slavic beauty contest.
And since we're both married men, we'll pretend like we're disgusted by this video.
So that's, that's why I like that testimonial, right?
Because there's no way that that dog can think it got the oil and that's why it has a lot more energy in the day.
If you think back to the original study, and that's really the thing that launched this into the supplement space, it's a 90% extension of life.
And if you think about a 90% extension of life for humans, the average human will live to 152.
Now, let me be clear about this.
That's not the oldest human.
That's the average human would live to 152.
So there's a bell curve around that 152.
It wouldn't make any sense for something to extend the life of a living creature by 90% and to have it not show health benefits in the short term.
Like that just, it would be extremely counterintuitive.
In fact, I do like to kind of joke that in that original study where the test subjects, again, given our ESS60 lived 90% longer, there was no notation that these rats were walking around with little rat walkers, right?
And little rat oxygen tanks.
They just, they just lived healthy rat lives until they got to their end and then they passed.
And in fact, actually, the second to the last one passed and they euthanized the last one because kudos to the to the researchers.
Think about this.
They're doing a toxicity study.
They're about two and a half years into it.
All of the control group are dead, right?
So the group given water as the control group, they're all dead.
And all of the rats that were given the ESS 60, the My Vital C formula, all of them are still alive.
At that moment, your toxicity study could not be more concretely done.
It's not toxic.
But instead of just ending the study then, those professors continue to do the animal husbandry for another two and a half years until they got, again, to the last rat.
They euthanize the last one and then so that they can complete their study.
But kudos to them for carrying that experiment out to that point.
So it wouldn't, it just wouldn't be intuitively.
It wouldn't make sense, hey, we're living 90% longer, but we feel no health benefits.
That doesn't make any sense.
And if you go back to this mitochondria, right?
And this is the thing, this boss theory, buffering oxidative stress system theory.
If you're improving, imagine if you just improve how your car ran as it was going down the road, you're going to see a benefit.
If you improve how the smokestack operates in a power plant, you're going to see a benefit.
If you improve, remember, every one of the trillions, the only cells in your body that don't have mitochondria are blood cells, red blood cells.
Every other cell has between 50 and 5,000 mitochondria.
If you improve how they work, then you're going to feel energy.
The other kind of thought process about how it potentially impacts sleep is if you're doing a better job of keeping the mitochondria in tip-top shape as you're going to sleep and sleep, this is kind of like it's a broad stroke to say, hey, sleep is about taking care of your mitochondria, taking care of your muscles, taking care of your neurons and your brain.
Well, if you don't have to take care of the mitochondria, because they're already being taken care of by this ESS60 molecule, this paddy wagon sponge, we'll call it, then you can move on to the other tasks during sleep and you can focus on other things that are both healing and restorative about sleep.
And it does give me some hope because I've been trying to be healthier, right?
So I spent a lot of, I spent a lot of years, like I drank pretty heavily, right?
Because I think a lot of people did during COVID.
I just drank a lot and I ate a lot of fast food.
I was on the road.
And so sometimes we find ourselves in those moments where we're just like, like, this is why I understand how people get unhealthy.
And then I understand how they don't get backwards on it, how they don't reverse it, how they don't start getting healthy.
Because like I said, you know, it's really hard to start losing weight when you don't have energy.
So this is why I like my Vital C because this is a good start to a healthy regime regimen.
Even if you're very unhealthy, this is a good start.
But if you're already healthy, who couldn't use something to sustain longevity and energy and sleep?
So this is a product for everybody.
This is a life is an experiment, but this product's not because it's, I've experimented and it works, but you can check it out too.
And you can, you go, go check it out at myvitalc.com slash offensive.
Use promo code offensive, get $15 off.
I need to get more.
Honestly, buy this for anybody because it's like, okay, I got to be careful because my wife could see this and I don't talk.
I'm not going to say anything.
But look, we have days where we are intolerable to be around and the people around us are intolerable to be around.
And honestly, a lot of that, I think, just stems from like my mom used to tell me before she passed was that, you know, you basically are paying for tomorrow.
You're paying for today's consequences from yesterday's lack of discipline.
You know, if you didn't go to bed on time, you do, you ate poorly and you got gastric reflux or just whatever's going on.
You just made bad choices yesterday, so it affects you today.
But it's like she always tells me, but then don't give up on tomorrow just because today isn't a good day.
So start making the better decisions now.
You're not going to benefit today, but you will benefit tomorrow.
And this is a great benefit.
So I want people to pick this up.
I want people to buy it.
I want people to do it.
And you know what?
If it doesn't do anything for you, please don't buy it because you're saving it for the people who do.
But you will buy more of it.
I promise you that.
And you will enjoy it.
And you will be grateful for it because it is a good product.
And I'm very happy about it.
And I think there's, you know, a lot of opportunities to push this out to more people.
I think this is a incredible product.
I think you did such a great job.
I love the story.
I love the idea that it's like, like I said, like, you know, well, there is one they're saying it's toxic and then it ends up being good for you.
Like the same way we said pharmacy companies tell us things are good for us, but they end up being toxic for us.
And so, you know, you can't always go by.
You can't always go by what's originally said.
And then you end up finding out this is amazing.
So giving you your last thoughts, giving you your last understanding.
What are your plans, man?
Like just on a personal level for this company, for this product?
Do you have anything new in the works?
Like, what's what does the future look like for you?
And what can we expect from the brand, from what's going on?
It might actually be like nose deep in doing interviews.
I'm actually putting on a longevity health summit.
It's called Uncovering the Secrets to Longevity, Live Beyond the Norms.
And I'll send you the link so that you have it.
Maybe you can put it in the show notes.
And so I'm interviewing, it turns out it's going to be about 48 experts in longevity, the diseases associated with aging, how to extend life, the processes that are typically touted as great ways to living longer.
In fact, National Geographic, their cover this, I think January of this year was Living Longer and Better.
We had already selected the title of my book, Live Longer and Better, which you can actually, if you go to the link, myvitalC.com slash offensive, you probably need to navigate to the book and you can find it there and you can get a signed copy.
We're actually donating the profit from buying the signed version, all right?
So the Delta, you know, whatever fee I'm taking for profit for signing it, that fee is actually going to a charity that we're really excited about.
We really just kind of put that into place just this week.
So it's, that's what I'm focused on.
You know, live beyond the norms and the, and, and again, the title is uncovering the secrets of longevity.
I'll get you the link.
The last thing I would just say about the website, I'm really about people taking advantage of opportunities, right?
So you go to the webpage, you can find, you know, a box of our product.
You can find a bottle.
You can save 25% if you go on subscription.
Now, your first thought is, oh, his team is trained to like talk us out of canceling our subscription.
No.
In fact, my customer service team has about 750 five-star reviews.
So they're not trained to talk you out.
They're actually trained to answer your questions, one, and deliver amazing customer service.
And they do a great job.
I couldn't be happier with my team.
But go ahead, even if you just want to try it, get on subscription, try that, and you can cancel that at any time.
I think it's Scottish and I think it's misspelled the way my parents met and are from Oregon.
And I think, as my mom described it, we forgot how to spell our name when we went west on the wagon because most Burrises are B-U-R-R-I-S or B-U-R-R-E-S-S and we're B-U-R-R-E-S, single S.
And we just hope everyone would be healthy and would be able to check out this out and be able to support your health, support the show in the process, most importantly, support your future.
My name's Elijah Schaefer, and this has been a special episode of Slightly Offensive, where we're taking an in-depth look on a way for you to be better, to be healthy, and to get outside that system and to stop looking for shortcuts and actually doing things at work.
Don't forget to always get good rest, to put your phone away, and to take care of yourself spiritually.
As I mentioned, I'm going on a new spiritual journey right now because it is important to take care of other aspects of your body, including your mind and your purpose and your heart and stay driven.
You know, don't just be careful to not be under the power of anything in this world that can negatively affect you, but be under the power of God.
And if you don't believe in God, at the very least, know that there is divine purpose for your life and that you need to find that purpose because it is there and you have a way that your body is designed.
And if you put the wrong things into it, you feel the wrong way.
If you put the good things into it, you feel the way that you're supposed to.
You're not putting corn oil, hopefully, inside of your car, but maybe you are.
So they have high octane gas for a reason, and it's for better performance.
So be better performance.
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