The SECRET Infertility Crisis, Dr. McCullough BLASTS Big Pharma Cover-Up | Guest: Dr. Peter McCullough & John Leake | Ep 300
In this captivating conversation, Elijah talks to Dr. Peter McCollough and John Leake, the authors of best-selling book, THE COURAGE TO FACE COVID-19: Preventing Hospitalization and Death While Battling the Bio-Pharmaceutical Complex. They discuss the groundbreaking documentary, Died Suddenly, infertility, and vaccine observations.
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So what's really concerned me is this documentary, Died Suddenly.
People are saying both that it's showing the detrimental side of the fact that the vaccines are possibly causing side effects that nobody knew about.
And other people I've heard that are credible are saying this is actually not realistic.
This doesn't prove anything.
On the claims that were made in the documentary about the fact that there is this myeloid or protein buildup, these white structures, as a physician, what do you think about these claims?
Well, the observation that death is going up worldwide is solid, you know, even in today, in the Hill, relatively now mainstream right-leaning journal.
You know, death rates are up.
There's no doubt about it.
Now, death rates in 2021 are reporting 2020, and then 2022 reporting 21.
And so, the question is: what is it?
Is it all COVID or COVID-related, or is it something else that could have been a systemic exposure?
The only other systemic exposure, which the vast majority of the population was involved with, was mass vaccination.
So, that's where we are.
Complete agreement that death rates are up.
There's no question on that.
Every life insurance company is reporting more payouts, more claims.
Every single data system is showing people are dying of all age strata, all age strata.
Now, the rubbery blood clots have been examined.
They have spike protein in them.
Okay, spike protein is produced after the vaccine installs a genetic code to produce a spike protein in large quantities.
The spike protein also is found in the body after COVID-19 infection.
Blood clots, clinically, are found both after the infection and after the vaccines, and in both.
And since 2021, the majority of people who got COVID also got the vaccines.
So, they actually have both exposures.
So we have a situation here where I think the blood clots clinically, the ones that are resulting in fatal pulmonary embolism in the published autopsy studies are COVID-related, whether it's the virus or the vaccine.
Again, there's virtually no separation now of these groups.
The post-mortem blood clots, I think, are entirely different.
They are more of interest, a curiosity, because instead of the blood liquefying and being drained out of the body, it's congealing, it's forming these rubbery clots, and then the undertakers can't drain the body.
So they start opening up the blood vessels and they pull out these casts of blood clots.
I don't think they relate to the mechanism of death per se, because people can die of all different causes.
There hasn't been a single analysis showing that only specific causes of death have these rubbery blood clots.
It's just what the other takers are saying is: listen, we see this now with an increasing frequency, and there's an assumption that they've taken a vaccine, but there still hasn't been an analysis of vaccinated and unvaccinated deaths.
And do they have rubbery blood clots or not?
Even some of the basic analyses haven't been done.
Was that intentional?
The idea of kind of removing the control group, like this mass quick vaccination, and this idea that now you have the same side effects or similar side effects from COVID as you do the vaccines that makes it pretty much hard to prove in a court of law, my understanding, that any of this is happening from vaccines.
Like, is this intentional?
Well, I would push that question back over to the doc because, I mean, there seems to be some pretty solid research now indicating that a lot of the, for example, But the heart conditions that we're observing seem to be far more a matter of concern with respect to the vaccine than from a COVID infection.
I mean, that was my takeaway from your… That's starting to settle out that the cardiac risks when they happen due to the vaccine are bigger than those from COVID-19.
We saw cardiac risk with COVID-19 for hospitalized patients.
In the United States, we had 10 million COVID hospitalizations, 10 million.
Now, the current state of affairs with COVID, we have 20% of the cases that we had last year, and we have far less than, I think, 1 20th of the number of deaths right now.
The hospitals have very little patients with COVID in them, very few.
And so that part of the pandemic is over with.
And so what we don't have is any government interest in studying these sudden deaths that are being reported.
None.
There are no government-initiated requests for applications for grants to study blood clotting abnormalities after vaccine, heart damage, brain damage, or neurologic damage, all of which the FDA says the vaccines cause.
There is no interest among Pfizer, Moderna, the companies to study this.
And so Americans are absolutely furious right now at this entire vaccine program with roughly 15% of Americans being injured or damaged by these vaccines.
Yeah, it seems high.
And you actually say, you know, people say, oh, well, they write it off.
The side effects aren't that severe.
It's always not severe if you're not struggling through them, right?
Any side effect, including death, it doesn't, it is separated from home.
It never feels so big.
But you happen to make the claim that the side effects, including myocarditis, are not mild.
You say that there's not a, from my understanding, that this is not a mild case or that is a misleading claim about the side effects being mild.
What do you mean by that?
Well, first off, I think I want to temper the word claim.
Okay.
Claim in medicine means a drug company claims their drug does this and the FDA grants the claim.
It's pretty important.
So claims are not things that just apply to me as a doctor or you as a patient.
We simply have observations.
We don't make claims.
So the observation about myocarditis or heart damage is in almost every published series, 90% of people are hospitalized who have clinically have it.
90%.
Hospitalization, by definition, is a serious adverse event.
By definition, serious.
That's regulatory law.
So no, any characterization of this being mild is not supported by any observation, not supported by regulatory law.
It is.
Okay.
So this is where I want to, and I want to, on the answers on this, approach this with a way of not saying that you guys are making these claims, that you're backing these up.
And also for YouTube and the big tech platforms that we're not making any medical claims here, but trying to answer a question.
So do you believe the studies I've seen that are like, okay, people infected with COVID, some people have a third or more or less sperm count.
I've seen that birth rates seem to be dropping in some countries.
Some people are saying that the vaccines in pregnant mothers were causing stillbirths and infertility.
Between COVID and the vaccines, do you believe there's enough verifiable evidence to show that this is going to affect fertility and the growth of populations in those infected and injected?
Or is this something insignificant, something being blown out by conspiracy theorists as some conjecture to try to stoke fear in the population?
Well, I interviewed Dr. James Thorpe.
He's an obstetrician, a gynecologist obstetrician on Monday.
And this is something that he's really spent a lot of time examining over the last year.
And he is unequivocal that the already in the original trial data in the animal studies, and then there was, I don't know if your viewers will recall, Pfizer was forced by a Freedom of Information Act request to release a survey, a document serving, you know,
what kind of feedback was our observations was Pfizer receiving from the public after they rolled out the vaccine?
It was about two months from December of 2020 through January of 2021.
Dr. Thorpe was of the opinion that if you just look at this literature, the animal studies, the trial data, and then this post-rollout survey, that within those documents you see an impairment of – there's an increase of fetal demise, of abortions, of – that he believes it's a catastrophe for reproduction.
A couple more sources.
The best thing on this is we're not making claims.
We're just making observations, and there's sources for the observations.
Mary Beth Pfeiffer, investigative reporter, has put out, I think, probably one of the best substacks I've ever read.
People can just look her up.
It summarized fertility rates over the last several years worldwide from all available sources of data.
And it's clear fertility rates are plummeting, are absolutely plummeting on a worldwide basis.
We have data, one Chinese study published in JAMA, another paper by GATT published in Andrology on male fertility after vaccination.
Both studies agree.
There is a reduction in sperm count and motility after taking one of these shots, and it lasts for about six months.
And then it rebounds back up.
Another shot, it's going to go back down again, and then a rebound back up.
Now, if a man is already in the lower range of normal on fertility, that roughly 15% to 30% drop is going to put them into the infertile range.
It's very, very biologically plausible.
On the male side of fertility, that's impaired.
How about women?
On women, what we know right now is men can produce unlimited amounts of sperm.
So even if a man stopped taking these injections, one would conclude they're going to be right back to being as fertile as they used to be.
Women only have a set number of eggs.
That's it.
And in women, there's a paper in the British Medical Journal that studied thousands of women and their menstrual cycles who've taken the vaccine.
Answer is very clear.
Menstrual cycles change, and they lengthen with the vaccine.
Now, all experts agree, if one messes with Mother Nature and changes the natural menstrual cycle, as a consequence of it, there can only be one conclusion.
There will be a reduction in fertility.
The timing of the release of the egg and the reception by the endometrium in the uterus is going to be off.
There's only one conclusion.
If you shorten the cycle, you lengthen the cycle, one starts to mess with the natural cycles of fertility.
So we have a building case on both the male and female side, and also the observed fertility rates, that mass vaccination, in addition to the fetal loss data John just gave you, that mass vaccination for sure is going to drop fertility and drop world population.
It's going to drop fecundity.
That is the throughput of having children.
Do you think it was intentional?
I mean, some people are saying this seems like it's engineered intentionality.
Is there any, I shouldn't say, do you think?
I mean, do we see any evidence that this was known before this was administered?
Because to me, that would be enough evidence.
Like, if you knew that this was going to be the side effect, and you pushed it anyways, then there's nothing to conclude that either A, you intentionally wanted this to happen, or B, you didn't care, which means it was still intentional, right?
It's like, you let someone die, you still are involved in their death.
So, do we see that, or is this just a total anomaly?
Well, we're back to this bewildering morass of confusion.
I mean, how do you begin this investigation?
And it requires attaining so much knowledge of what exactly was going on with the engineering.
I mean, I think Dr. McCullough and I are in complete agreement.
There's really little doubt at this point that SARS-CoV-2 was engineered in a lab.
The paper trail on this is really quite huge.
I mean, including published academic literature in 2015.
I mean, Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina states, well, we're engineering bat coronaviruses.
I mean, it's just plainly stated.
So, the question is, in the engineering of this pathogen, could it be that there were actors involved whose expertise and ingenuity was so great, combined with this motive that you've just outlined?
I suppose that's possible, but I think we're going to need some more information.
You know, when the messenger RNA vaccines were conceived as a response to a pandemic response, that was the U.S. military, DARPA, in 2012.
And in the DARPA documents, and they're freely available on the Internet, you just type in ADEPP3 and you can look at how the messenger RNA vaccines were conceived and planned.
It had nothing to do with fertility.
It just simply was they were trying to respond to a pandemic.
The question that would occur in a court of law would be to a doctor or to a scientist who was involved in this.
Did you know or should you have known that these vaccines could be related to reductions in fertility?
And a answer could be, well, yes.
The Chinese had published papers before COVID showing that lipid nanoparticles go to the reproductive organs selectively, selectively, in high concentrations, lipid nanoparticles.
At the beginning of the pandemic, the Japanese asked Pfizer, they said, where do these particles go in the body?
Pfizer said, well, we don't know.
Japanese said, do a study.
And Pfizer did a study in animals where they gave the lipid nanoparticles, not with no messenger RNA on it, and they hyperconcentrated in the mammalian ovary.
So they either knew or they should have known that these were going to end up in reproductive organs.
Let's take heart damage.
Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina on Chapel Hill showed with beta coronaviruses.
You give enough of the virus in the right model, it causes heart damage.
1992.
1992, they either knew or they should have known.
During the first year of the pandemic with COVID, the military had a myocarditis screening program.
The NCA Big Ten League, multiple organizations had myocarditis screening programs.
They knew coronaviruses could cause myocarditis.
The spike protein on the virus causes myocarditis.
When we give the vaccines, we put the body into hyperdrive, producing the spike protein, which causes myocarditis.
And within six months of the vaccine program, our FDA comes out with the CDC and says the vaccines cause myocarditis or heart damage.
So this falls into this category of, yes, you knew or you should have known, and now you agree to it.
This will not be controversial.
Death rates are up.
Fertility rates are down.
Net population effect is going to be reduction.
Heart damage, proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Blood clots you started out with, proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Forms of neurologic injury and immunologic injury.
That's the scope of what's been accomplished with this vaccine program.
I would make the observation as a doctor, as an epidemiologist, I study the distribution and determinants of disease, that this is a worldwide debacle.
It is a health debacle.
Phase one was SARS-CoV-2, the pandemic, and the pandemic response.
And phase one and phase two now has been mass vaccination.
We don't know what phase three is, but there's been two phases of a disaster for the world.
Right.
But this is where I am curious then.
So from my understanding, China did not use American-made vaccines, correct?
Am I correct on that?
That's right.
Okay.
For lack of better words, what the hell is going on in China?
And what do they know that we don't know?
Or why are they approaching COVID in 2022 that you would understand in the way that they are?
Like, is this scientific?
Is this control?
Is it both?
Because if you watch the dystopian videos that are coming out of there of the protests, it is very difficult to try to understand with the drones spraying disinfectants and, you know, across the cities.
I mean, they're literally killing people in their own homes through being burned alive rather than letting them out and survive because they're so committed to the zero COVID lockdown.
I don't know what's happening.
Do you have any clue?
Well, we interviewed Jan Jekyllic at the Epoch Times, and he has studied China and the Chinese Communist Party for many, many years.
I mean, he's conducted in-depth investigations on particular stories in China, and he said, we don't know exactly what these guys are up to with this.
There are different interpretations.
He suspects it's not about public health.
It's about some form of control of psychological – perhaps it's a psyop – some form of extending or maintaining control.
It doesn't seem to be about public health.
It's certainly not about public safety, right?
You would never weld the doors shut to an apartment building, which are the escape routes in case there's a fire.
That is public safety number one.
China is a very vertical country.
Everybody lives in these high rises.
Thousands of them do.
So it can't be about public safety.
It can't be about COVID because I interview people from my show all over the world.
They don't even wear masks when they treat COVID.
They've treated thousands of people.
When I ask them, what do you think about the Chinese wearing hazmat suits?
They said they've lost their minds.
These hazmat suits are not cheap, by the way.
They're expensive.
They've lost their minds.
They're spraying each other's shoes with disinfectant.
It doesn't come out of the shoes.
It's not a shoe infection.
They look like they've lost their minds.
But it does raise the suspicion that this purported emergency is being sort of instrumentalized in order to put the iron fist down.
Could it be that there is a perception in the party that there's some sort of rebellion afoot and COVID provides a mechanism for suppressing it?
But, John, they've been wearing hazmat suits for three years now.
This is three years of theater?
It's just hard to imagine.
It ebbs and flows.
You know, we heard a hypothesis that was really, you know, I think it raised the hair on my arm.
Where it was, listen, we're going to kind of let these protests go.
And we've got so many cameras.
These people aren't wearing masks.
We're going to know who they are.
We're going to let this go on for a while and build up our database of dissidents, and then we're going to crush them.
Then make them.
Well, I mean, I heard the hypothesis that there was a perceived – it's a coastal city.
It has a long, long history of cosmopolitanism, Shanghai, that there was some nascent rebellion that was detected in Shanghai.
And so the thought was we'll use COVID or the purported threat of COVID as a sort of pretense for going in and conducting basically a terrorist campaign.
Yeah, but before COVID, I was over there five times.
Before COVID, they would have what's called corruption sweeps.
And they could just, for any reason, sweep through a company, sweep through a school, sweep through government offices, have a corruption sweep, grab who they wanted to, and just do what they wanted to.
You know, they built Terminal 1 in Beijing, which is the largest glass structure in the world, by taking a massive chunk of that city by eminent domain.
So get out of here.
We're taking it to build it.
So this idea of they wouldn't need to wear hazmat suits and go through all this theater in order to achieve some goal.
There's just a far more efficient, direct, usual way that they snuff things out, John.
Well, so, in other words, it's mysterious.
I think it's a confluence of things.
The hypothesis I'm starting to form is there's some type of infectious thought pattern that's spreading from person to person, and they're not thinking straight.
I see it in my clinical practice.
I see it among doctors.
I see it in all walks of life.
People are – there's a distorted thought pattern, and people have written about it.
Matthias Desmet has written this psychology of totalitarianism, how there is an infectious groupthink that spreads from person to person, and it leads to – it has common elements to it.
And some of the outputs of it are some of the most bizarre sets of behaviors.
You know, I'm a frequent contributor on Fox News, so I go on, and Laura Ingram loves – the producers love to put these montages and have me comment.
And they'll show people in Olympic swimming pools wearing masks.
They'll show, you know, the most ridiculous things.
John has featured this guy paddleboarding out in the middle of the bay, and a coast guard comes up to him and arrests the guy for not having a mask in the middle of the bay.
They've shown little kids playing the violins in these little plastic cocoons.
You know, these types of things in the setting of COVID, it appears as if people have lost their minds.
And the Chinese wearing hazmat suits and bolting the doors shut and welding them shut and spraying each other's shoes, the only explanation is they've lost their minds.
They have perfect control of their society.
They have every tool at their disposal.
In fact, by locking people in the buildings, they will create disorder and they will create unrest that they previously didn't have.
It's actually counterproductive.
There's another bewildering aspect to the Chinese connection.
And, okay, I'll conclude with this.
We have plenty of documentation, an abundance of documentation, that SARS-CoV-2 was engineered with American expertise.
Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina published a paper, and I'm not sure how you pronounce her name, Shang-Zhi, Shang-Zhi.
Shang-Zhi, yeah.
At the Wuhan Institute of Virology's BSL-4 lab.
So you have an American top researcher who we believe also has grants and connections with the federal government collaborating with a top bat virus researcher at Wuhan, and they're clearly engineering this pathogen.
But why is it being done, this gain of function being conducted at a BSL-4 lab in Wuhan?
And I know the hypothesis, well, it was because by federal decree, gain of function, there was a moratorium placed on it in 2014.
Okay, sounds good.
But, I mean, the Department of Defense, let's face it, if they want to conduct research, they conduct the research.
Congress doesn't have oversight on a lot of what these guys are doing in the Department of Defense.
Why in China?
And I don't know.
And I'm, you know, maybe there was some kind of grant proposal protocol where you just, from the outset, had to propose doing it somewhere else.
But I have a hard time.
Well, remember SARS-CoV-1 came from China?
Right.
The first attempt in this, the University of Texas Medical Branch here in Galveston, they brought over one of the Chinese scientists to work at UTMB.
That was before this next wave of BARDA-funded research.
You had access to the bats, which was important in China, special bats, where they could start to work on this jumping from bat into human.
It was all done in the lab, by the way.
It didn't happen in a fish market.
It was all done.
And Barak chronicles this in his papers.
But importantly, you had the interest of the Chinese.
I felt a very curious observation that in the Wing of Journal of Medicine paper of Moderna, one of their pivotal trials, a very high-ranking Chinese military official who's a scientist is listed as an author.
It's all in the open.
I'm going to have to sign off.
No, that's great.
Gentlemen, I really appreciate you guys coming on.
I know we could talk forever.
But if people want to find you, if they want to follow you, support.
I know you guys got some ventures going on.
I don't know which one of you wants to give it.
But on social media, we'll just start with UFS.
Where can people find you and follow you?
I'm going to let Dr. Munker.
He's the social media.
Where do we find and follow you?
Go to my website, PeterMcCulloughMD.com.
That'll take you to all the social media.
I was the number one doctor on Twitter, currently suspended.
Musk doesn't have the guts to let me back on.
It's just me.
It's mano e mano here right now.
Because I eclipsed him on Joe Rogan.
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But he'll let me back on, I'm sure, at some point of capitulation.
I'm on a getter.
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Awesome, Dylan.
Thank you so much.
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