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Aug. 21, 2022 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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aldo buttazzoni
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elijah schaffer
49:13
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john doyle
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mike lerner
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elijah schaffer
He is the same type of caricature as Trump in terms of someone with money, power, influence, and social media prowess that the media hates, the establishment hates, but he makes good points.
And is his life clean?
May he be a criminal?
Probably.
He possibly is.
I don't think anyone gets that point without doing some criminal shit, honestly.
Because all of us have probably had offering.
mike lerner
Here's a simple question.
Is he a net positive or a net negative?
elijah schaffer
John?
john doyle
Net positive.
unidentified
I say net positive too.
aldo buttazzoni
That's hard.
I mean, I guess it depends on who you're talking about.
elijah schaffer
I'd say net positive, but I don't know.
I have genuine questions about his business dealings because he never says where he gets his money.
And that leaves a lot of money.
mike lerner
His art might be interesting.
unidentified
It might be interesting to see where he is in two years.
aldo buttazzoni
Again, I can agree with the cheating thing and that women are different than men.
But I really think that Andrew Tate is like a symptom of men being so devoid of masculine energy that they will attach themselves to anything that has any semblance of that.
Like, for example, I'm an Eagle Scout.
I was in Boy Scouts growing up.
That was a really fundamental and really instrumental thing in my development of what it means to be a man.
I was in a fraternity, having male peer-to-peer relationships.
Again, that was really important.
And I think Andrew Tate is a symptom of that.
In our society, all men are told that you can't be a man.
You can't display any forms of masculinity.
And I agree with what Tate says, again, about the cheating and about men and women being different.
He just loses me a little bit when he takes it to the extremes.
For example, again, men and women are different, but he advocates for having a harem, right?
I don't think that's masculine to have sex with a ton of women.
I think that's easy, actually.
What's more difficult is to submit yourself to one woman for your entire life.
That I actually think is difficult.
mike lerner
I disagree.
aldo buttazzoni
So where I agree with a lot of what Andrew Tate said, I want to hear this.
Some things I do disagree with, and that's one of them.
What do you disagree with, Mike?
mike lerner
Okay, so although you said it's harder to commit yourself to one woman than it is to have sex with multiple women.
Is that what you're saying?
aldo buttazzoni
Yes.
mike lerner
Just so that I'm not confused.
unidentified
To be sexually promised as a man.
mike lerner
That's difficult.
aldo buttazzoni
No, no.
Being very sexually promiscuous, being a man is easier than being committed to one woman for your entire life.
mike lerner
I think that's subjective.
unidentified
No, I think no.
It's definitely more difficult for men.
aldo buttazzoni
More difficult.
unidentified
It's more difficult for men to commit to one woman for their entire life, particularly in a sexual context, for sure.
mike lerner
Oh, in a sexual context.
Is that what we're saying?
aldo buttazzoni
Yeah, 100%.
Like, again.
unidentified
Well, of course.
aldo buttazzoni
Yeah, I don't think it's a hard thing to do to go around and be very sexually promiscuous as a man, right?
We're driven by the menu.
unidentified
Yeah, men are biologically wired to do that.
aldo buttazzoni
That's one thing that Andrew Tate, that I agree on, that men are biologically wired to dominate, right?
To have sex with a ton of women, to conquer.
That's, you know, being, you know, having holy matrimony with one woman through the Holy Spirit, through God for your entire life, that is a difficult thing.
That's what makes it unique.
That's what makes it impressive.
That's what makes it, you know, what marriage what it is.
unidentified
Really?
No way.
Come on, Mike.
You've got to admit that it's harder to be committed to your wife.
mike lerner
No, it's not.
I love my wife.
There's not even any thought involved into it.
I mean, like, how old are you?
38.
aldo buttazzoni
Okay, I'll be right back.
unidentified
You should probably get your T-levels checked.
aldo buttazzoni
I'm 22.
So, like, I'm at the age where I'm still, you know, maybe biologically wired to be looking for, you know, whatever it is.
Like, I'm not.
But again, I try to hold myself to the standard where I want to find the woman.
I want to find the one.
And that's something that is, you know, I think biologically is more difficult.
mike lerner
Don't find, don't seek out.
aldo buttazzoni
I think God will put you in her life when it's right.
mike lerner
Yeah, I think so too.
I don't want to talk about Andrew Tate anymore.
It's just kind of like, whatever.
john doyle
Does that mean I've got to take the white sticks off?
unidentified
Boom!
aldo buttazzoni
Well, listen, I think it is interesting, but I do feel for the young men that are, again, craving masculinity, that are craving a space to be just men.
Like I said before, I'm an Eagle Scout.
I got my Eagle Scout the year before women were allowed.
And to me, that was the destruction of an exclusively male space that was really important and really instrumental in developing young men.
And I think they ruined that with introducing women to it.
That's not to say that women can't have their spaces, but I think that there is something very important to be said about men having an exclusively male space where they can make mistakes, where they can hash things out when they're going through puberty and they don't know what's going on and they don't know what's right versus wrong.
It's all new things, right?
mike lerner
And guys.
Start a fight club.
I'm so tired of hearing this.
Men have no spaces anymore.
elijah schaffer
They have a gym.
mike lerner
It's called the gun range.
They don't have to call the men.
unidentified
Men lack community.
mike lerner
No, it's not.
john doyle
By the way, dude, no, no, no.
elijah schaffer
Dude, no, no.
mike lerner
Talking to 17-year-old guys.
And yeah, they feel like what?
elijah schaffer
Mike, we need to ban women from spaces.
Listen, this is true.
I went to a high-end country club.
One of the executives at my company, because I only make $11 a week.
I'm not an elite.
I wish I was.
I've been around them.
I've been arrested at Mar-a-Lago before because I was dressed so poorly.
They thought I was an intruder, and I got arrested by Secret Service.
That's my life.
Anyway, so I bump shoulder to these people.
I wish I was something more, but unfortunately, we collect disabled Barbies here.
But I went to this executive's very nice country club.
Do you know that when you went into the locker room at the country club, which by the way, I think was like $50,000 just to start joining, not including fees, you go in and there's a door in the locker room, and then you go in and there's a bar in the locker room.
Only men are allowed.
There's a woman's one too.
So I'm not just defending just male-only spaces.
I'm also defending female-only spaces called the home anyway.
While the husband's at work, but there are, listen, listen.
mike lerner
On Long Island, there's a lot of money.
elijah schaffer
The gun range, everything's women now.
mike lerner
What does that mean?
Like, I don't understand.
elijah schaffer
I mean, like, women are everywhere.
Like, even at the gym, the butts, every, like, no, but I meant like men feel like if they don't let women into everything, like, this is, it's kind of like the immigration thing.
Like, if we don't let people in, then we're racist.
It's like men let women into every space where, like, quite frankly, there are just spaces that women shouldn't be allowed in, including politics, where it's just like, I feel genuinely like there's no spaces in terms of when the boys feel like it's kind of like the idea of they always say that the white guy has the sixth sense.
It's the look over the shoulder before he says a racist joke.
Like, he goes, and then he says his joke to make sure there's no minorities to get offended.
Like, there is a racial, social, religiosity, like, continuity that's important.
And the most basic is sex.
Like, the way to defeat racism is on sex.
Like, just to be around the boys, like, I could be around my brothers, my, like, black guys, Hispanic guys.
If we can just be the boys hanging out and like really talk about women, there's no unifying factor more than being around the boys, just being able to be raw and real about their wives, their sisters, their mothers, women in their lives about how things when women are around.
I'm saying it doesn't work because women are gossip.
They can't keep secrets.
And I love them and they're beautiful, but meaning men need male-centric spaces.
And the problem is someone always brings their girl.
They bring their wife.
And I feel like there needs to be a lot of people.
unidentified
Fuck that guy.
mike lerner
That guy's not allowed.
That guy's this invited.
elijah schaffer
But in public, you can't say that.
It's illegal.
You can't say women can't be allowed in a space.
mike lerner
I'm saying it right now.
I started the IDG men's club.
There are no women allowed.
elijah schaffer
I'll join.
john doyle
Even if we have the men's space, I mean, even I was going to say, even if we have those clubs now, in terms of the social clubs that men had 70 years ago compared to now, it's just not even comparable.
I mean, the participation, you know, Robert Putnam wrote extensively about this, whether it's bowling clubs, social clubs, the Moose Lodge, even.
If you go to those places now, they're either only attended by boomers or they just don't exist at all.
And, you know, even yacht clubs, country clubs, those places have been occupied then by millennials and they have to kind of lax the standards for entry.
And the reason we don't want women isn't because maybe Elijah is right, you know, women shouldn't be involved.
I think it's primarily because for young guys who are trying to figure out what it means to be a man, we need to be able to be focused on what our elders are telling us.
We need to be able to be focused on what the older guys are telling us, how the world works.
And because we're young men, we're stupid.
We're like monkeys.
And if there are young women around, we get distracted and it quickly devolves into basically like a dick measuring contest.
And I think that's very negative for young men to experience.
Also, I think the reason that this is legally enforced in terms of the integration between the sexes into all spaces is because they know that every time anything threatening has happened throughout history or cool throughout history is when young men are allowed to get together and just talk, whether it's in bars, it's in social clubs, it's in whatever.
When men get together, we start to strategize and we start to figure out how exactly we're going to fix problems that we all agree exist.
And when you can destroy the Boy Scouts, which would be a great ground for that to begin to be bred, you can destroy anything.
And now young men don't even know what it means to be a man.
And so anytime a guy like Jordan Peterson comes around or Andrew Tate comes around, they immediately cling to that because unfortunately their fathers aren't the men that their grandfathers were.
And so they're starving for somebody to just tell them what it means to be a man.
And maybe Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate aren't the best guys to tell them about that.
But I agree that the social clubs are great.
And like the IDG social club is probably great.
I would love to be invited to a meeting.
It's not to say that we don't need to be doing that.
It's just, as you probably recognize, it just isn't what it used to be, which is why we should start doing that.
mike lerner
No, I absolutely agree, especially on your take that the boomers have probably gotten that right in that they are still the population that has those clubs available.
And to young dudes who are looking for something like that, like listen, I grew up caddying.
There is no more masculine place than a caddy yard in the summer because you're hanging around with a bunch of degenerate dudes, dudes who have seen some shit, dudes who work multiple jobs, dudes who get up early, 5, 5:30 in the morning to go work in the heat.
They're at a place where it's pretty much exclusive to men at a country club to begin with.
So I think that could be a good place for young guys to go, especially if they want to make some cash to do it.
But I mean, Elijah, it's just kind of weird that you bring up like men aren't allowed to have these spaces anymore.
Like what I also agree with what John was talking about, how millennials now have lax the standards about what men-only spaces are or spaces exclusive to men are.
But like, I just don't understand why this whole idea of we're not allowed to have our own spaces.
elijah schaffer
Well, it's illegal.
Actually, unless it's in a locker room.
So it's actually illegal to do that.
mike lerner
Discrimination is illegal when discrimination is actually good in terms of like not like not like a but not like an incorporation or an LLC, but I'm talking about with you gathering a bunch of guys and just having a weekly night or something like that to get together.
Why does it have to be under the ban of like a company or a?
elijah schaffer
Because we do, because you want people to find it.
So some guys like, you know, I'm married, I group with sisters.
I want to find out what it means to be a man.
Here's this gentleman's club, not a strip club.
We've cheapened that.
Not girls with their titties out like, hey, here's real men that are in business trying to meet together.
It genuinely has become to the point to where now, like even all boys' schools are inviting women in.
That's a real thing.
And women's schools are inviting men in.
Like, our culture has degraded to the fact they don't understand the sanctity of gender-exclusive spaces.
And I mean that on both ends, like, I think, I listen, we've talked about on the show.
Women ask, like, oh, well, why can't I meet with other wives?
They go, maybe you should start your own, you know, Saturday brunch with women who are coming over in Bible study and talk about what needs to be done and bring and say, bring your kids and you actually get together.
Maybe you want to talk and you don't want to watch your kids.
Then maybe you come together and everyone gives $50 and you hire a babysitter to watch all your children while you all talk together and meet on a Saturday afternoon and have a nice brunch together.
Meaning, we can do that individually.
It's very nice.
I just mean that we've lost the sex-centric part of society where men and women are distinctly different more than race or anything.
Like I can get along probably more with a black dude or a Mexican dude than I could with a white woman.
Meaning, in terms of just like the understanding of us talking about the same things, we might have different cultures, different ideas, different even understandings of women, how we relate, but we still have the same problems, the same issues.
And in our culture, we've said there's no such thing as male spaces.
Boy Scouts accept girls.
Like our culture is degrading this.
So I'm not saying we can't.
I do.
We're here on this podcast.
I don't care.
I love Gina.
I'm not like upset about anything.
I just mean this podcast invites all different types of people on.
unidentified
But on the private end, oh, wait, it just, oh, it's Don Joyle.
elijah schaffer
Elijah, your mom call me to let you know to wash better.
Your skin marks are back.
My mom's dead.
unidentified
Dead.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
So that's, that's interesting.
She's literally dead.
aldo buttazzoni
Well, like, sex-only spaces have gone down everywhere.
Like, sorority admission is down.
Fraternity admission is down.
Boy Scouts admission is down.
Girl Scouts admission is down.
Knights of Columbus admission is down.
It's down across the board.
Like gender-only spaces everywhere in America are down, period.
mike lerner
Oh, so fucking gay.
I would much rather go through a lawsuit of creating a men's-only social club than have to fucking like kowtow to fucking, you know, in the inclusivity of all genders or sex.
It's absolutely bullshit.
There's a school here in Nashville, an all-girls school that was all girls for 50, 60, 70 years.
I actually think it goes back over 100 years that just started to accept people who identify as women now.
So I agree that the culture is absolutely degrading.
But to think that like no one is actually challenging this and no one is willing to have the actual balls to maybe suffer a lawsuit to show that there can be men-only spaces is absolutely ridiculous and just shows the whole pussification of men today in general.
aldo buttazzoni
Well, not only that, but prisons aren't even gender exclusive nowadays, right?
You have prisons that are allowing in transgender people of the other side, and they're letting in men that are masquerading as women, raping a ton of these women, getting them pregnant, right?
So you don't even gender-exclusive prisons.
What the hell?
john doyle
Yeah, Mike is totally right on this, too.
mike lerner
We get what we deserve.
john doyle
It is to say that, yes, you should find local men in your community who get it, who understand what's coming, and you should network with them, have time that is exclusively male to get together.
But it's also not to ignore the fact that 70 years ago, your grandpa was probably a member of a club where he could have gone to any time of the week.
It didn't even have to be scheduled.
He would just go to a building and you walk in.
They would know him.
They would serve him drinks.
And there would be guys there.
Maybe some he sees on Tuesdays.
Maybe some he sees on Thursdays.
And there would just be a nice rotation of men.
And this was the social club.
Ask your grandfather what a social club was.
They don't exist anymore.
mike lerner
Well, John, it wasn't even that long ago.
I'm telling you, when I was around 21, 22, I used to play a lot of illegal poker in underground poker rooms on Long Island all the time.
And it was, I would say, 99% men, but it was the same thing that you'd go there every night and these people knew who you were.
You could talk bullshit.
We got raided by the FBI a couple times, but it was, it was, they don't exist anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
mike lerner
And it's not even that long ago.
It's absolutely insane.
john doyle
And that's how it starts, too, with poker, with some sort of shared interest.
You know, it's going to be tough to pitch to a bunch of guys.
Hey, let's all just like hang out together.
There has to be some sort of some sort of shared interest.
Like, I remember when I was in high school, we started like a little poker night, which is not exactly a big protest against the regime because it's like you're not going to get a knock on the door because you're playing poker with your male friends in high school, but it's like at least something, you know, guys' night, boys' night, and then expand that, involve your community.
And then you say, Hey, maybe instead of playing poker, maybe let's uh go to the gun range, maybe let's go get pistol training classes or you know, uh, short-barrel rifle training classes, and you know, let's start to practice small unit tactics, and then maybe we take over a precinct, and then maybe you know, and you can expand from there.
As long as the boys are together, we're fraternizing, we're doing what needs to be done.
That is exactly how you change a content.
elijah schaffer
Can I bring this up, though, real fast?
I do want to, I have to, we have to talk about this, by the way, Gina and Mike.
Um, are you guys, you guys haven't had anything to drink, have you not?
unidentified
What happened to our vodka?
elijah schaffer
Right here, you have to take a shot.
We all have to take a shot on camera of water.
mike lerner
I'm right.
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
elijah schaffer
Of water.
Of water.
john doyle
This is deep.
Whoever sends in the largest super chat determines what we are toasting to.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
If you send a super chat right now, we will toast to it.
Whoever sends in the largest, like, we're going to wait on this for we're going to pour it.
unidentified
Here you go.
elijah schaffer
That's not, it's water.
john doyle
Yeah, thanks for this.
mike lerner
I'll just go out of the I don't mind if Gina does a partake.
I'll do it for you.
elijah schaffer
Okay, Gina, are you?
aldo buttazzoni
I would like to toast.
john doyle
Just say pregnant.
Everyone knows what you're saying.
elijah schaffer
I do want to talk about this, though.
Hold it for a second.
Hold it for a second because we're going to see who sends a super chat.
They can make their toast.
Oh, Mike and Gina say one positive, one negative to each other about whites and yellows.
aldo buttazzoni
Ready?
elijah schaffer
All right, Gina, you got to say one positive, one negative about whites, and Mike, you got to say one positive, one negative about yellows.
unidentified
Go.
Whites are good drivers.
mike lerner
Yeah, yellows are bad drivers, but have good fast food.
elijah schaffer
Oh, you didn't say it.
You didn't say a bad thing about whites.
john doyle
Yeah, Gina.
unidentified
They have stinky feet.
elijah schaffer
Oh, that's true.
aldo buttazzoni
Actually, exclusive to whites.
Is that exclusive to us?
unidentified
And they wear shoes in the house.
Like, what is wrong with you?
mike lerner
Wait, when you came to my house, was I wearing shoes?
john doyle
I've never seen shoes.
I've always taken my shoes off inside.
Go back to your class.
mike lerner
Actually, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
I used to be very, very critical of people who would take off their own shoes coming into my house because I would say, listen, it's fine.
Wear shoes.
But I understand now, you know, after having a kid and having all, you know, the kind of stuff that they put in their mouth, it's actually pretty respectful to kind of take your shoes off.
Yeah, I've turned.
I've turned.
elijah schaffer
I will say this, though.
If you give the super chat, by the way, can you put the ghetto chats on the screen, Brian?
If you guys want to give chats, we're demonetized everywhere.
So the ghetto chats, you can put on the screen the super chat, the ghetto chats.
We invented ghetto chats.
There's a link in the description.
It's a real way through Stream Labs or Venmo or PayPal.
We'll read them at the end, anyways.
We have a whole chance.
You guys already sent a bunch of Venmos and I'll read, I'll read every question you guys sent.
We read them all and we'll read them probably in about 30 or 45 minutes.
These dudes, they're staying up late.
Gina's a healthy person.
She's pretending to be unhealthy for one night.
What time do you go to bed, Gina?
unidentified
I go to bed at like 9:30 or 10.
Saints.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so I'm old.
Yeah, you guys are up.
You guys are up, and we're very proud.
I want to bring this up, though.
Let me go to where we at.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
We have to talk about this.
We have to talk about this.
mike lerner
And this is to us?
elijah schaffer
This is to all of us.
Let's just, let's, there's so many, there's, there's so much to go with.
So an open secret posted, I know.
I have to read.
By the way, if you ever, if you reference CP, please reference it as CP.
I just could do this so it doesn't even pick up.
But Nick Fuentes' key lieutenant arrested by FBI for credible mass violence threats against TPUSA, possession of CP on cell phone, Alejandro Richard, Velasquez, Gomez, 18 aka Latina Zumer, and Mestizo Zumer.
And if you go to the actual article, this is from, this is local news, by the way, here in Texas.
FBI says in South Area Teen, San Antonio teen made credible mass violence threat against conservative student group.
And the article goes on to say, a graduate of Wagner High School has been charged in a federal anti-terrorism investigation.
I also went dark after allegedly making online posts that the FBI claims shows that he was planning an attack on conservative student group in Florida.
And I think it goes down to explain what he said.
So he basically said, oh, yeah, here it is.
Velasquez alleged that threat against the Student Action Summit concluded with SAS will be turning point of Latino Zoomer lore.
And it said here that, where did it say something specifically?
Oh, he said like that it was going to be a we're going to have his retribution or something like that.
And he's booked here.
Yeah.
The tweet itself, you can take it off the screen, seemed pretty, pretty innocuous.
What do we feel about the FBI in general?
Because the planting of child porn on his phone, like, I'm not going to defend, I'm not defending anyone, but I want to say planting.
Well, they, you know, that Alex Jones won the case against the federal government, that they literally planted child porn on his servers.
john doyle
That is very real, but in this case, I want no, no, no, no, wait.
elijah schaffer
I'm not saying anything.
I'm coming to this.
I'm saying, I'm coming on both sides of the coin here.
On one end, they're saying the planting of child porn is real.
That's what Fuentes is saying was planted, right?
So let's go to my full screen here for a second.
So to break this down, my full screen of me.
So on one end, there's two sides of the point to where they're saying, hey, this guy is a creep.
He's looking at child porn.
He wanted to kill Charlie Kirk and people.
aldo buttazzoni
No, go ahead.
elijah schaffer
He wanted to kill Charlie Kirk and people, and he was looking at child porn.
The other side is saying, hey, the FBI is not to be trusted.
The FBI caused problems.
They planted this.
And his threats were broken down to like in-cell 4chan lore.
I don't have a conclusion yet.
It's just broke.
I don't know about this.
But if this is real, this is potentially very hurtful.
It's hard to know because there's so many fake attacks against Fuentes and these people.
I know why they're credible, but either this guy is a creep and dangerous, or he's a victim.
Let's talk the conversation.
Let's start with Gina and Mike.
Is this guy a victim or is he really a creep mass killer?
unidentified
Where do you lie on this?
mike lerner
You probably don't know too much about this.
I don't know about this kid.
I'm pretty sure the language that they use, like key lieutenant, is absolutely suspect.
I think Nick is Nick.
I've seen him disavow this kid having anything to do with AF or anything to do with himself.
If he's turned up with two Daniel Defense rifles and a new truck, then maybe I'd be more likely to think that the FBI is involved and creating a false flag.
And I don't know.
I don't really know too much about it.
unidentified
I'm just initially skeptical of anything the FBI is involved with.
Yeah, that too.
And initially skeptical of any public attack on Nick Fuentez in America First because he's one of the most politically persecuted people in the country.
And so, I mean, not to say that all of it's false, but I'm just always initially skeptical of happy birthday to Nick.
mike lerner
It was his birthday a couple days ago, so I want to wish him happy birthday.
unidentified
Oh, was it?
mike lerner
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, I missed that.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
That was your whole synopsis on this.
By the way, if you guys donate now, if you donate now, we're ordering pizza to the studio so that we all feel good.
If you donate money, then we're waiting for you guys.
Where was the super chat?
Did anyone give a ghetto chat so we could do the toast?
Did anyone give a ghetto chat toast?
john doyle
No, no one cares.
No one cares.
elijah schaffer
We're literally.
aldo buttazzoni
I haven't even taken my shot.
elijah schaffer
No, we're waiting to give a shot to whoever donates to see if we...
We took the Venmo first.
unidentified
Oh!
Sorry.
mike lerner
We already took a shot.
unidentified
Yoko.
Hold up.
elijah schaffer
We took the Venmo.
Let me check it.
unidentified
Hold up.
elijah schaffer
Oh, wait, we might have had this.
Hold up.
We might have had this.
john doyle
The Latino Zoomer saga.
You know, I'm online.
I'm on Twitter.
elijah schaffer
Remember this is live and nothing can be taken out.
john doyle
I was sort of following this.
I think that I don't know exactly that he was actually a threat to anybody.
I think that he was probably just being edgy.
This kid seems to be really online.
But that being said, some of the other allegations were probably true based on what's been leaked with his conduct with other people in the sphere, particularly underage women.
That being said, the way that they're trying to link this by extrapolation to Nick Fuentes is just ridiculous.
You know, key lieutenant.
This guy had no position of leadership or relative authority within America first.
He was just more or less a super fan.
You know, they're showing, oh, well, he was at this event.
He was at this event.
Yeah, super fans like to go to event.
You know, this guy was a big fan.
He was really, you know, invested in everything.
But that doesn't mean that he was actually acknowledged by the leadership, let alone Nick Fuentes.
So they're just trying to slander him guilt by association, a tale as old as time, by taking this kid's, you know, anecdote and tying it to America first and Nick Fuentes.
And it's just totally ridiculous.
unidentified
So.
mike lerner
I agree with you.
Also, I don't know too much about it, so I'd rather not kind of.
elijah schaffer
Well, I don't know either, but like, but like the reason, okay, so do you know about this?
So this is a good discussion, actually.
The foreign international community is really upset with the United States on Russia because they said that they couldn't.
john doyle
Where is that from?
elijah schaffer
Well, I'm saying this, and they couldn't believe the United States saying that Russia was going to invade Ukraine because the United States intelligence has been so dishonest about Afghanistan, about Iraq, etc., right?
So there's a huge freaking problem that's going on in the country.
They don't believe us on wars.
And I feel like that's the same problem with the intelligence community, right?
It's like, I want to believe, like, someone would be like, oh, Gina, you're so bad.
This guy really did have child porn.
He's horrible.
He's evil.
And he was trying to kill people.
And you're like, yeah, but I would believe you if you also weren't investigating Elijah with an open investigation for wiretapping for January 6th.
Like, meaning, like, I know bad people exist, and I know you probably do catch them, but then why are you politicizing and finding fake fake bad people?
I don't know.
I heard the air kick on.
But fake bad people.
I'm saying that's the problem.
It's like you hear the problem with all these people is that it's just the agencies are not consistent, so we don't trust them.
It's like, well, Epstein, you know, well, we really care about this guy with child porn.
We don't even have Epstein's logs.
We don't have Epstein's video cameras.
You guys care about child porn, but you don't care about children being raped?
Like, that's a problem.
john doyle
That's a really good point, and it's totally true.
However, you have to look at who they're targeting.
You know, nobody is looking at Latino Zumer and being like, this guy's a threat to the establishment.
We're going to plant CP on his phone.
This, you know, you can go ahead and Google this or maybe look it up on Twitter or YouTube.
There were things about this particular individual that were less than becoming in terms of his conduct with women, particularly underage women.
And so it's not exactly surprising that, you know, this stuff would be found on his phone.
I don't think it was a plant.
I also don't think that they planted it just so that they could try to guilt by association Nick Fuentes.
It's already going after Nick Fuentes.
They don't need a guy named Latino Zumer to do that.
I think that this really was just a case of a kid who slipped through the cracks.
He's really just spends too much time on the internet.
He's disillusioned.
He's disaffected with his life and he gets caught up in bad stuff.
And then fortunately, he's going to be paying the price for that for the rest of his life.
elijah schaffer
Look at my screen.
That's him.
I mean, like, put it up there with us for up.
Like, dude, he looks like a child.
How can a child have child porn?
That's very weird.
unidentified
He's a child.
How old is he?
Is he 18?
john doyle
Probably 18.
elijah schaffer
He looks like a minor.
john doyle
He got caught up because he had been allegedly simping after a young woman.
And then they leaked all the screenshots.
They were trying to really dunk on this guy, humiliate this guy, and I felt badly for him.
So, you know, I tried to be nice to him.
I think I met him in an event or something.
We took a photograph.
I was trying really to be nice because my thinking was that if this guy got exposed for simping and he's still showing his faces at these events, he's not unaware of that.
He must be calculating.
He must be plotting his revenge.
So I was like, this kid's going to snap.
I want to be in his good graces.
And then this comes out and he's, you know, taken into custody by federal police.
And it's like, okay, I feel vindicated, frankly.
But it's also like, you know, you really have to be careful to the boys, to the young guys who spend too much time on the internet.
You really have to make sure that they're doing all right, okay?
The Forgotten Gamers of America.
We have to pay very close attention to these guys because they are one or two ratios on Twitter away from doing something that they cannot take back.
elijah schaffer
We do have some.
aldo buttazzoni
He also had a, you know, on his own Instagram, I think he posted something about, you know, turning 18, and that's not going to make me unattracted to minors.
So we have to say, I've displayed some of this behavior before.
john doyle
Are we going to take the shot?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we actually did get a lot of Venmos, but we have one here.
This is Laif Opland.
This is to Gina and Mark.
They love the show, especially the Destiny stream.
John Doyle, you are commanded to stream with sneako Kai clips and thick Nuentes and break the internet shots to the world.
Okay, here we go.
To water.
john doyle
To Gina and Mark.
elijah schaffer
To water.
Where are you guys at, Gina Mark?
Why do you guys look like you guys are...
Are you guys done?
Are you guys frozen?
They dropped out.
What happened?
aldo buttazzoni
They're gone.
They are gone.
elijah schaffer
Hey, text them.
That looks like they just dropped out.
Hold up.
Here, can you just text them real fast while I'm on screen?
unidentified
There you go.
elijah schaffer
Thank you.
Okay.
Next topic.
No, they dropped out.
Okay, so that, yeah, I don't know.
It's weird.
It's strange.
I'm quite odd.
Okay, let's talk about this.
Okay, so New Zealand, by the way, is Brian.
If we can get the sound down a little bit on the videos, perhaps, just a little bit.
People in New Zealand, because of the injectables, are getting sick.
So it's compromising their immune systems.
We don't know that though.
It's not scientifically proven.
But we're finding that Western countries are having a declined birth rate, an increased death rate, and also they are getting sick faster.
So New Zealand, which, by the way, has 114% dose mitigation.
So meaning they literally have 114% dose rate, which means they have more doses than they've even given out to people, but they have almost 100% compliance.
Suddenly, their population's immune system is dropping and they don't know what caused it.
And I want to watch this from News at NewsHub.
Let's watch this.
unidentified
Everyone's sick.
Yeah, we've been asking the same thing, Sam.
And well, COVID numbers are especially fine.
elijah schaffer
It's still full screen, right?
unidentified
Every day, it seems like our workmates are off with some kind of bug.
So is there more sickness in the air right now?
And if so, what the heck can we do about it?
Are you sick of being sick?
You're not imagining it.
More Kiwis are coughing, sniffling, and calling off work.
Our immunity against a whole lot of things is sort of a little bit down because we haven't been constantly, I feel like, primed all the time.
So of course, we've got lots and lots of different viruses coming over.
And it's not just the coronavirus.
Of course, lots of things are.
Seasonal flu, gastrobugs, conjunctivitis, even foot and mouth.
It's all making everyone's lives just that much harder.
And that's despite COVID numbers finally going down.
Community cases are at their lowest since February.
The data reported in stuff.co.nz suggests compared to last year, respiratory illnesses have doubled.
The Wow Kiwis survey found double the number of us are experiencing cough, fever, illness, runny nose, and sore throats.
And when looking at pre-pandemic levels, we're actually seven times sicker.
So what's going on?
If we haven't learned anything from this pandemic, it would be a bit disappointing.
And one of those things is that when you've got a cold or something like that, don't take it to work.
We know what stops viruses from spreading.
And so masking up and keeping a distance isn't just about COVID.
It's about, you know, all sorts of respiratory viruses.
And it's not just the experts who've noticed.
Yeah, there's been a few more days off, for sure.
Our daughter's gone to kindergarten this year.
So yeah, it's a bit unusual.
It's hard to say, but she's, yeah, we've been sick as a family.
Yeah.
But I know a lot of my friends have been sick.
It's the worst flu I've maybe ever had in my life.
Yeah, so definitely worse.
I don't think it's my immune system because I've been trying to be healthier than usual.
So what can you do to avoid all the nasties without having to live in your own personal lockdown?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, what was that?
So they said pre-pandemic, they're seven times sicker than they were before.
Seven times.
Like, so if you think about this, so if you're like seven times more prone to anything, then that's a huge like catastrophic issue.
But to the Kiwis, we're glad coronavirus cases are down, except our bodies are not responding well.
What changed in the last two years?
Why is everyone dying?
Why are people getting sudden adult death syndrome?
Why are people dropping down?
I don't know.
Maybe it's the bloody shit you put into your body while you were telling us it's good for us.
I am so glad I did not take any jabs.
I am so glad, man.
I am like genuinely very enthralled that I did not, although, because I could not handle it.
This is my rich husband Langolin, thank you so much We officially were able to buy dinner.
I'm going to order pizza for us.
We'll eat pizza on stream too, by the way.
I ordered pizza.
I'm going to do Papa John's because it's closest to our house.
I would do better pizza, but nothing's better.
Papa John's is a patriot.
aldo buttazzoni
You don't like us.
You just want us to eat.
elijah schaffer
Thank you, Langeland.
I appreciate it.
No, it's true.
That's such a blessing.
No, but I mean, like, it's crazy because they go like, what could be causing this?
But I also get humanity, although, because I get that oftentimes they're like, well, why am I sick?
It's like the diabetic.
Like, well, why don't I feel good?
Because you're fat.
But then you don't want to lose weight.
You just want to take insulin.
It's like, oh, well, why is our country fucked up?
Well, maybe look at the election.
Look what you did.
Why are we sick?
Look how you responded to the coronavirus.
You shut everyone down.
You took away, you know, natural herd immunity, and then you injected them with shit that you haven't tested long term.
That's a problem.
aldo buttazzoni
I mean, you've seen over the last year, like, many athletes in their teens and in their 20s dropping dead of cardiac arrest.
I think in the Pfizer trials, did you see this, Elijah?
In the Pfizer trials, what was it?
One out of six women.
I don't remember the exact term, but a ton of women that were in these Pfizer trials miscarried who were pregnant.
Was it half, John, you said?
Half of the women that were in the Pfizer trials that were pregnant had miscarriages.
And so, yeah, I mean, it's, but here's the thing is, though, I never took the vaccine.
I'm glad that I never got jabbed.
But I see it on both sides of the coin, right?
I saw tonight, our friend Lisa Reynolds, she tweeted out, you know, I judge everybody that got the vaccine.
And I understand that.
You know, I do too, a little bit.
If you got the vaccine, then you bowed down to the establishment and to the regime, and you got this experimental vaccine.
But I do feel for the people that were under threat of losing their jobs, that were going paycheck to paycheck, that needed to get it.
But, you know, and then I hear the counterargument that it was only because you gave in that they had this authority over you.
So I see both sides, but I was in college at the time.
I literally dropped out of college and moved states.
elijah schaffer
Let's toast to real traditional values.
I recently bought 40 acres of wild in the Ozark to plan to make an escape for vacation cabins for every close friends and my close family final payments.
Okay, I'm making a toast real fast.
aldo buttazzoni
Sorry.
elijah schaffer
It interrupts.
They pay to interrupt.
It's part of it.
aldo buttazzoni
They always do.
unidentified
They do.
elijah schaffer
Where is this?
It's an interruption.
john doyle
Okay.
elijah schaffer
I'm sorry.
So this is Deep Eddie Water from Deep Eddie Lemon Water.
It's Deep Eddie Lemon Water.
aldo buttazzoni
Okay.
john doyle
Fun fact, Savannah Hernandez's favorite vodka.
When you save Simps, get that date with her.
This is what you buy.
elijah schaffer
No, you need this.
aldo buttazzoni
I took a shot.
elijah schaffer
No.
Since when?
aldo buttazzoni
I'll come over after this.
Take a shot.
elijah schaffer
No, let me give it to you.
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
john doyle
A fucking key.
Take the shot of fucking Key.
aldo buttazzoni
What is this?
elijah schaffer
Deep Eddie Leonard?
That's a little shot, but go ahead.
aldo buttazzoni
Sure.
john doyle
Beta shot.
Beta, man.
elijah schaffer
They literally just gave to the stream to make it happen, to make it worthwhile.
aldo buttazzoni
So here's the thing, though.
Here's the thing.
elijah schaffer
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'll do it together.
Did we get Gina then back on the stream?
Did something happen?
john doyle
She said she was going to call back.
elijah schaffer
Did they not?
Does anything bad message?
aldo buttazzoni
I'll message the producer.
elijah schaffer
I will.
I will.
Okay, here we go.
Here we go.
To the $100.
Thank you so much.
Congratulations on your property.
john doyle
To black people.
elijah schaffer
To black people.
aldo buttazzoni
But I mean, John, what do you think?
I want to hear your take on this because I get it from both sides.
Some people say, right, I disrespect everybody that took the jab.
You were weak.
You bowed down.
But I also see it on the other side that some people actually do go paycheck to paycheck.
They were under threat of losing their job and they didn't have any choice.
And that was really the malevolence, the evil in forcing the jab on people is they didn't have a choice.
And I do want to, everybody has a choice, right?
But it put people in such a bad position.
And I'm somebody that was fortunate enough to where I wasn't in that tight corner.
I did drop out of college because they were forcing me to get the vaccine.
I said, screw this.
I'm going to withgo the or forego this semester in college and move down to Texas with my good buddy John.
But I do see it on both sides.
How do you see it?
john doyle
Yeah, I agree.
We were put into a very fortunate circumstance where actually you even had to sacrifice more than I did to simply not get the jab.
But it's like, you know, even if it was the right thing to do by that meaning not getting it, which I think is still correct, you can't come at it from a place that is not from sympathy.
Where, you know, you're looking at the guy who's working a blue-collar job who doesn't have a choice.
I mean, what is he going to do?
Like, miss two weeks of pay and then not feed his family?
And, you know, he gets the vaccine.
Maybe he doesn't really believe necessarily all the things that are being propagated about it.
So it I still think fundamentally was the wrong thing to do.
I think it was still basically bowing down to a regime that ultimately hates you.
But that being said, you know, it is what it is.
It's water under the bridge.
You can't really berate these people.
It's not really American or the right thing to do, I think, to be like, I told you so.
I think you really do have to come at it from a place of sympathy and understanding.
Otherwise, it's like, well.
elijah schaffer
Put on the screen there with us, ghetto chats before I want to say one thing.
Ghetto chats.
Remember, you guys are asking how you can give, how you guys can support, because we're demonetized everywhere.
It's kind of even funnier.
At least you don't have to give to YouTube.
You don't have to actually support YouTube.
You can give ghetto chats like link in the description, at Elijah Schaefer on Venmo, PayPal.
These are our ghetto chats.
We love it.
John, don't we love it?
Don't we love this?
It's a ghetto chat.
john doyle
We love ghetto chats.
Yes, we love ghetto.
elijah schaffer
Put up a little more.
Put up a little more.
john doyle
Chats.
elijah schaffer
A little ghetto chats.
Oh, drink blood, E-Raw, meat, and organs.
This is a species diet for humans.
You're such a fucking truth.
Heal our bodies.
Also, Ed Jennis Vanderplant says your body.
john doyle
I just agreed with you.
unidentified
No, I know.
elijah schaffer
You're not dancing.
aldo buttazzoni
You were talking about Mike.
unidentified
Oh, there we go.
Come on.
Come on, John.
Let's go.
elijah schaffer
That was better.
unidentified
Um.
elijah schaffer
No, it's actually so helpful.
aldo buttazzoni
It's really your cool card.
elijah schaffer
I was literally, you guys literally just raised money for dinner, and I just ordered pizza on because you guys literally bought us pizza.
It's on its way here right now.
I'm so happy.
john doyle
If you guys super chat enough money, we will peer pressure.
We should peer pressure the pizza delivery guy to sitting down and miking up and giving his taken.
elijah schaffer
Oh, my.
john doyle
That'd be good content, right?
elijah schaffer
Oh, my.
john doyle
That'd be good.
elijah schaffer
If the pizza delivery guy will come on, we will give him $100 to come on the show.
Let me see if they're here.
Let me see.
We have a lot to do.
By the way, t.me/slightly offensive.
Drop your memes.
Oh, he's all.
I think he's already gone.
He's already gone.
Sorry.
I do want to say this, though.
I want to talk about a couple of things that are very, important to me that I find to be very, very, very important.
So, number one, did you guys see this?
There was a mob.
We call this a Tuesday in LA.
Can you go to the screen here?
So these new layouts are nice, right?
These overlays?
aldo buttazzoni
I do like them.
elijah schaffer
I stole these from an old show once that existed.
So I just stole them.
It was here.
But I stole them.
aldo buttazzoni
It was here.
elijah schaffer
So, look, so this was a group, a group of young people.
You'll notice something common on the internet here is they're always young and they're always in hoodies.
And so we call them hooded youths.
They were in LA, which is my hometown.
I'm shocked.
Like, people are not shocked.
I'm born and raised in LA.
Because honestly, John, like, you guys are from Detroit, so you know the exact same thing.
john doyle
You know who's fucking with that 313, Jiff Vimy?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I doubt it.
I'm like, hey, hey, Oms.
john doyle
Let me throw on the Weister.
elijah schaffer
You have Edgar spawning.
aldo buttazzoni
There's a buff on the missing with the glass.
john doyle
Hey, I got the buff song.
aldo buttazzoni
Hey, say it to me.
unidentified
Hey, Oms.
Buff song while la shoes.
john doyle
Do we want missy through the glasses?
unidentified
There we go.
elijah schaffer
I grew up with Edgar's with Jaquans.
aldo buttazzoni
On a lodge with it.
elijah schaffer
They were like, oh, les, au de l'éons.
Hey, ohms.
aldo buttazzoni
You know what I really like about this clip?
Is first of all, there is a lot going on.
unidentified
There's a lot of stuff.
elijah schaffer
The white woman in the back, scared of her water.
aldo buttazzoni
But why did they disrespect the COVID glass like that?
I don't see anyone wearing a mask.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
aldo buttazzoni
Why not?
They must not have grandmothers.
elijah schaffer
The aplexi didn't really protect anyone from the scratch-offs have to be scanned to be valid.
unidentified
I'm pretty sure.
aldo buttazzoni
This reminds me of what Kathy Hochlin in New York did today, where she's legislating pronouns.
You can't say mailman or fireman anymore because it's gendered language.
The people in New York are legislating language at the same time that there's mass homelessness, there's mass drug, you know, drug epidemic, fentanyl overdoses in New York.
They're overrunning hotels with illegal immigrants, people that cross illegally housing them in our country.
And their priority is legislating pronouns, legislating language to stay in LA, right?
They're letting people dope up, do drugs, run tent cities.
I don't even know what to say.
elijah schaffer
Look at this.
aldo buttazzoni
Like, we're living in Mad Max.
elijah schaffer
You see this, though?
Oh, cancel.
Elderly man dies after being sucker punched by one of his employees.
What do you notice, John, is the common similarity between these people that are killing white people across the country?
Oh, sorry, old people.
They're young, right?
john doyle
They are Democrat voters.
elijah schaffer
They're Democrat voters.
john doyle
But it's just like, I mean, this is, you know, what they got Blake Masters for a few months ago.
They unearthed an old podcast clip of him where he was talking about what gun violence really means in practical terms.
And he said something to the effect of, frankly, it has a lot to do with violence between gangs of black people.
And this is the sin of America, which is a country that worships black people.
The same way that France under a Catholic monarchy would think to themselves in any institutional level in terms of decisions being made.
Well, how would God think about, or what would God think about this decision?
This country thinks when decisions are being made at the institutional level, what would black people think about this decision?
Well, how are the black people going to think about this?
So Blake Masters said something to the effect of, you know, it's black people who are committing gun violence against each other during gang shootouts and what have you.
And this is an issue where the fact checkers aren't even going to attempt to gaslight you as to the reality of the situation.
So they simply ran the headline such that it would make him seem like he were a racist and, you know, completely irrational actor.
Because it's just true.
I mean, everybody knows, frankly, that like this is the problem.
If you're going to talk about gun crime, you're going to talk about crime in general.
You're going to have to be a little bit more specific with who you're talking about is committing the crime.
And, you know, you see these people were going into the 7-Eleven.
And whether it's me, whether it's Blake Masters, whoever, the cardinal sin in America is to accurately describe the behavior of different groups of people.
Because our overriding religion, the religion of America in 2022, is egalitarianism.
Practically defined as everybody is equal, obviously, by every metric.
Anything that you would try to measure the different groups of people by is irrelevant because we are all the same.
And so if you accurately describe the behavior of different groups of people, that is a sin because it goes directly against the nature of the overriding narrative, which is that everybody is the same.
There is no difference between any group of people.
We are all the same.
And if there is a difference, it's actually because of racism.
Oh, you're going to have to pick that up.
Our host has left us.
It's the Aldo and John show.
Locker room talk alpha testing.
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
aldo buttazzoni
I can't even believe you said that just now.
john doyle
I know.
aldo buttazzoni
That hits home very hard.
john doyle
I know.
unidentified
I know.
john doyle
The OG fans will understand this.
You want to gossip about Elijah while he's not here?
aldo buttazzoni
You know what?
I kind of actually like this a little bit.
You know, there's so many.
I don't even want to call them disagreements because, John, you and I will have a lot of heated discussions.
Would you agree with that?
You and I really do have a lot of heated discussions where it's like we agree on like the outcome or like the destination, but we come from different places.
I don't even know what to call it.
john doyle
Yeah, yesterday we got into it when we were lifting about certain people in America.
And I was telling this story actually to somebody and I was describing it like, yeah, it seemed like Aldo was just like trying to prove to me that he could speak English or something.
Because I'm like hearing everything you're saying and I was like, okay, but you know, look, man, we still agree at the end of the day on like the key point here.
Like, why are you trying to argue semantics or like the little details with me?
But no, it's a good time.
aldo buttazzoni
No, we do, but it's like, yeah, I hate the devil's advocate just as much as the Nest guy.
I think they're super annoying.
But I don't even know what it is about us.
Because again, we agree on so much, but maybe it's just the framing.
I think that's what it is, probably.
Like the way that we frame things.
I think it's the lens, like the lens that we see the world through.
unidentified
Well, let's see.
aldo buttazzoni
The lens that we see.
john doyle
Let's give the people what they want.
What is the disagreement?
What is the deviance and lens?
How would you interpret this video differently than myself?
aldo buttazzoni
This one?
john doyle
Yeah.
aldo buttazzoni
Well, it's the same thing with the isms and the phobias where, you know, I don't see, I see the sexism, racism, homophobia, all these things.
I see them as illusions.
I don't see them as actually real.
I think they're distractions and they're there to make you mad and angry.
I think there's two truths, right?
It's either right or wrong.
It's good or evil.
And I think that if you narrow your lens and you look at the world through those mindsets, again, right and wrong, good and evil, then the way that you view everything becomes a lot more simple and you can tackle policy issues a lot easier.
Whereas I'm not advocating against nuance.
I think it's important, but I just think that some nuance is irrelevant or it distracts you or it's not helpful in the real world, right?
Is it good?
Is it evil?
Is this guy committing a crime?
Yeah, let's throw him in jail.
I don't care if he's white.
I don't care if he's black.
I don't care if he's gay.
Right, wrong, good or evil.
john doyle
I agree with that, but in the spirit of nuance, I think it is important to consider that all of these people are voters.
And, you know, I remember we got into this exact discussion yesterday when we were doing a push day.
unidentified
We did.
john doyle
Like these people are all voting and they are overwhelmingly voting for liberal district attorneys who refuse to prosecute crimes like this.
Like I don't know in what city precisely this particular incident took place, but I know that in cities like San Francisco, they're refusing to prosecute theft in instances where I think over or less than $1,000 worth of merchandise has been stolen.
So I think that we can all agree that murder and theft and rape and things like that are wrong.
But if we want to move closer towards a society which reflects that, we might have to be a little bit more honest with who's exactly doing what.
aldo buttazzoni
So, you know, perhaps, perhaps, I would like to say two things.
One is that our good buddy James Klug is in the chat.
Hello, James.
john doyle
Let's go, Captain.
We salute you.
Do you have rum?
Can we take a rum shot for James Klug?
aldo buttazzoni
You know, for the viewers not watching, the rum shot is a very, how would you describe it?
An honor.
Sacred tradition between James, John, and I.
It's called pirate mode.
Rum only.
I would like to say this, Joe, John, you know, and I tweeted this a while back, is that you make very good points, right?
You know, your sources are great.
unidentified
True.
aldo buttazzoni
Your explanation is great, but can you bench 225?
john doyle
Oh, shut the fuck up.
I'm never talking about.
unidentified
This is like literally Kai Clips.
john doyle
You know, Kai Clips can bench 225, and I choked him out twice a couple weeks ago.
So maybe after I debate you successfully on black people, we'll step out into Elijah's backyard and we'll go at it and we'll see who can.
elijah schaffer
Wait, who just gave this the ghetto chat?
aldo buttazzoni
Well, we've never wrestled, John.
We've never gone toe to toe.
john doyle
We've never gone toe-to-toe.
We never stepped into the ring.
elijah schaffer
Who is it, Brian?
aldo buttazzoni
Oh, Mike.
Gina, how are you guys?
john doyle
Mark and Gina.
elijah schaffer
Oh, they're back.
Hi.
Welcome back.
unidentified
Hi.
mike lerner
I mistakenly didn't have our laptop plugged in.
elijah schaffer
Hey, boys, there's full-on pizza there.
Ready if you'd like some, John.
aldo buttazzoni
So if you guys, we want to catch you up.
We were talking.
What were we talking about?
We were talking about looting.
I don't know if you guys saw the looting in LA, this flash mob that took over this gas station in L.A. John and I were talking about some of the differences we had.
Not in the conclusions we make about race and about crime, but maybe the way that we get there, I guess the starting point that we get there, I was talking about, I don't really see racism, sexism, homophobia, all that, all those isms as, I guess, you know, good and useful in assessing policy.
It's either right, wrong, good, or evil.
And I think if you make it simply down to those four points, then, you know, public policy and law becomes a lot easier.
So we debated that.
But how are you guys doing?
Good to see you guys back.
mike lerner
Doing great.
unidentified
We're doing great.
mike lerner
Doing great.
unidentified
Oh, I'm out.
john doyle
Because I'm doing great, Shaw.
You're doing great.
That was really clever.
aldo buttazzoni
I'm doing great.
mike lerner
Clever.
Was there a question there?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, why are gay people?
aldo buttazzoni
No.
mike lerner
Why are gay people?
aldo buttazzoni
Just kind of filling in.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
No, I'm going to ask you.
I want to do some things with you guys real fast.
Hold up.
mike lerner
Wait, do we miss a super chat that was directed towards us before we had multiple.
john doyle
I wanted to know how seriously you take absolutist free speech, and they requested that Mike say the N-word.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, with the hard R. Wow.
mike lerner
Do I have to say it like in context of something?
elijah schaffer
No, don't say it, actually.
No, I'm not saying that.
But I want to try a question with you guys.
Let me ask you this.
mike lerner
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Here we go.
Let's bring up some random topics here that I'd like to talk about that are very important.
So number one.
So, you know.
john doyle
I ain't gay.
elijah schaffer
Rick Drugmore isn't gay.
Congratulations for anti-coming out of the closet.
No, wait, isn't this almost better than super chats, right?
Like they, you can, like, like trigger confetti and have a good time.
And like, you don't have to give money to Susan Wajeki and her globalist elites.
john doyle
Why'd you point at me?
You got to stop doing that.
First, it's 6 million.
Now it's globalist elites.
elijah schaffer
Globalist elites.
No, no.
Okay.
But here we go.
Because we're at the point of the show almost, by the way, Gina, where we're going to start calling Telegram people.
And we start just live calling people on air, which is very dangerous.
We have live conversations with people.
So let me go in here real fast to Telegram and let me tell people, hey, would you like to be called?
And we're going to have real conversations, okay, before this.
So we're going to give about three or four minutes here.
We're going to start live calling people.
Gina and Mike, you guys need to have questions because you guys are going to be in control of the questions here for live callers.
Okay.
mike lerner
Wait, why do we have to ask them questions?
elijah schaffer
No, but like in charge of the questions.
They're going to ask you questions and you guys are going to be like the ones in charge of like, yeah, you're in charge of the questions.
Correct.
So like, and counter questions.
We're all going to join in, but it's going to, oh, look, we're already at 18 people, 20 people want to be called.
This is how quick it happens.
mike lerner
Let's do it.
elijah schaffer
Okay, here we go.
Let's try our first person here, Abel Garcia, who's been on the show before, detransitioned.
Let's see if we can get full screen here.
Hello, Abel Garcia.
Is there any way you can go?
Can you go a video here?
unidentified
Hey, Elijah.
elijah schaffer
Hello, Abel.
So you're on air here live with a few thousand people here on Slightly Offensive.
You have Gina and Mike from the I'm Doing Great podcast.
Gina, go ahead and they're here.
Do you have anything you'd like to ask or talk about here, Abel?
unidentified
Not off the top of my head right now.
I'll take questions if you guys have anything to ask.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so he detransitioned Gina from a female to a male, got full surgery, everything.
Go ahead, Gina.
unidentified
I'll say you can't get the full surgery, Elijah.
I still have my genitals.
elijah schaffer
Okay, the genitals.
Go ahead, Gina.
unidentified
So did you get any surgery?
No surgery.
mike lerner
Can you hear us, Abel?
elijah schaffer
Can you hear him?
aldo buttazzoni
Abel, did you get full surgery?
Any surgery at all?
How's a Gina?
unidentified
I got breath implants, and I had them removed.
And I had my chest reconstructed.
elijah schaffer
Could you hear Gina when she asked that down there?
Could you hear that or no?
unidentified
I did not hear her.
I do apologize.
mike lerner
Can you hear Mike?
elijah schaffer
Can you hear him or no?
mike lerner
I guess you can't.
You guys can hear him.
unidentified
I didn't hear Gina.
I heard the other gentleman.
He asked about the surgeries.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, go ahead.
Put them full screen, Brian.
Brian, put them full screen.
unidentified
So for the surgeries that I have had, I did get breath implants.
I had the implants removed and I had my chest reconstructed.
mike lerner
Aldo, can you relate the question?
elijah schaffer
No, he can hear you.
He can hear you.
aldo buttazzoni
He can hear you, Mike.
mike lerner
Oh, you can hear me?
Oh, okay, gotcha.
Oh, weird.
That's interesting.
elijah schaffer
Wait, you can hear him, right?
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
mike lerner
okay so here's here's the question um why why is it do you think that trans people feel that they be saying anything right now i can't hear anything okay Okay, okay, so go ahead, Mike.
elijah schaffer
Give me your question.
The live can hear you for sure, though.
mike lerner
Okay, that's fine.
Here's the question if you can relate to him.
Why do trans people feel, if they truly do feel they are a man or a woman, why do they necessarily need to have the surgeries done?
aldo buttazzoni
So Mike asks, you know, if trans people think that you really are a man or a woman, why is it necessary to have the surgeries done?
unidentified
Now that I look at it, I don't know why I want people to have these surgeries.
It's.
For me, you're castrating yourself.
It's best to get genital surgeries.
mike lerner
Can you ask him at the time why he felt that way?
Why he needed this?
unidentified
Because a lot of people eventually do become miserable.
So they don't feel that bad.
aldo buttazzoni
At the time when you made the decision to have the surgery, what was your mindset then?
What were you thinking as to why you needed to undergo the surgery and that you couldn't just be transgender as is?
And who was influencing you when you made that decision?
unidentified
Good follow.
Those who influenced me were my medical professional team, which was a therapist and the health clinic that I was going to.
The reason why I wanted it was because at the time I thought it was transgender.
I was told I can become a woman.
And obviously under disillusions, I believe them.
aldo buttazzoni
Now, looking back on that, do you think they led you astray?
And do you think that there should be any type of repercussions for medical professionals that are leading people like you down this road?
unidentified
Oh, definitely.
I would love to sue all medical professionals, but unfortunately, I have passed statue of limitations.
There are way more de-transitioners like myself.
The youngest out of the world.
Can you ask him to be a little bit of a young girl in California?
At the age of 13, she started puberty block red and testosterone.
At 15, she got a double mastectomy.
And at 17, she realized she made a mistake.
She is on social media under the name of Chloe Cole.
That is another one who is currently having her name dragged through the mud as another example.
aldo buttazzoni
How old were you when you made this decision to undergo these transition surgeries?
And what would you say to the youth that are contemplating doing these surgeries now?
unidentified
I was 19 when I did this, and I would obviously tell anyone who wants to do this, obviously do not do this.
You are going to have a lifetime of pain and suffering compared to what you actually believe.
mike lerner
Are you still if there were a lot of people around him that were feeling transgender as well, or if he was kind of a loner in that?
aldo buttazzoni
Were you alone in your group of friends, I guess, or people around you that were transgender?
Were you the lone, I guess, transgender person in your social circle?
unidentified
I didn't know a lot of other countries.
I communicate with a lot of and again, I was the user just can you say that again?
aldo buttazzoni
What was that?
unidentified
So I knew a lot of transgenders when I was still transgender.
I communicated with a lot of them, but in the end, I was just alone.
aldo buttazzoni
Was this real fast?
elijah schaffer
Real fast.
Real fast.
So, Abel, we're going to have you back on the show, and I'm really enjoying this.
And I'm really, by the way, you look like a dude again.
Last time I saw you, you looked like a chick.
unidentified
Thank you.
Wait, no, last time you saw me was an MFET.
elijah schaffer
No, no, no, but I mean, on air.
So, so, yeah, I don't equate my private life to my public life, meaning I meet people all the time that I've never met before.
So, you know, I have a lot of meetings and stuff with individuals.
So, I like it to see you.
mike lerner
Elijah, can you let him know that we're praying for him?
elijah schaffer
Mike wants to let you know that we're praying for you.
And what would you like prayer for?
He actually wants to know with him and Gina.
unidentified
For everyone and anyone listening to this, just pray.
I would love to say everything that I can, but I'm fortunately have a lot of stuff I cannot say on air.
But for at least right now, just pray that other de-transitioners like myself are able to get the support that they want.
And for those currently transitioning, realize their mistakes.
aldo buttazzoni
Can I ask real quick, are you still dealing with any medical complications from the surgery today?
And how long has it been since you did those initial surgeries?
unidentified
So the first surgery I ever had was in 2018 of May.
I had breast implants, and issues I've had since then are, obviously, I can't feel my chest anymore.
If you want it to stab me in a certain part, I probably wouldn't even feel it.
Wow.
My genitals have atrophied.
I have difficulty using the restroom.
And the left half of my body shakes uncontrollably.
I have been told I might have developed MS. For those who don't know what that is, I do apologize.
I'm going to butcher the name really bad, but it is multiple sclerosis sclerosis.
Multiple sclerosis, yes, correct.
That is what I have more than likely developed on the left half of my body.
elijah schaffer
You know what, Abel, that's the degeneration of the myelin sheath on the nerve nodes.
So we are really sorry.
I was going to ask you, would you ever be willing to go on the I'm Doing Great podcast down there to talk about detransitioning on Gina and Mike's podcast to explain what's going on?
Would you ever be willing to talk to them and the public about what that's like?
unidentified
Yeah, Elijah, you know me.
I would love to talk to everyone and anyone.
elijah schaffer
You know what?
Thank you so much.
Abel, we're praying for you.
We love you.
I'm going to pop you off here.
Let's talk soon.
You have my phone number.
Have a good one, bro.
aldo buttazzoni
Thank you, Abel.
unidentified
All right.
I'll send you a message.
I want to say anything.
elijah schaffer
Thanks, Abel.
aldo buttazzoni
Wow.
elijah schaffer
That's crazy, right?
That's crazy.
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
aldo buttazzoni
Well, I just got to say real quick is for Abel, that was extremely brave and courageous for him saying that stuff.
And I can't even imagine what he's going through having such traumatic, invasive, life-altering, unchanging surgeries done to your body at such a young age.
I think he said 19 is when those happened to him.
And it's so heartbreaking to hear that he had people around him encouraging him to do that to himself.
So I just got.
mike lerner
Crazy, too, because I assume he's Latino.
So it's like his parents were probably incredibly unsupportive during that time.
If I had to assume.
elijah schaffer
Let's try this.
mike lerner
He was alone and had another.
elijah schaffer
We're going to try a couple people.
Let's try this here.
Let's see.
If they don't pick up, we've had multiple people not able to pick up.
So let's see for a second.
Oh, this looks like it's going to be a good call if they pick up.
If they don't pick up, it's fine.
People say they want to be called and we're calling people live.
It's very.
Would you say this is questionable on a show to be calling people off Telegram Live?
We do this every.
Oh, okay.
Hello, sir, ma'am.
Are we out with a man or a sir?
unidentified
Or some sometimes when they great.
elijah schaffer
Can you do video or are you trying to stay anonymous?
unidentified
I can do video.
elijah schaffer
All right, let's go.
Let's see who we're talking to.
Let's go.
The boys and their phones right here.
I'm the only one here.
Are you going video?
Turn on the video aspect there if you can.
See if you can.
unidentified
Oh, God.
elijah schaffer
Are we having trouble here, sir?
So life goes.
unidentified
Goddamn pro there.
elijah schaffer
I don't know.
Can you come on the screen full time here?
Or are we having a problem?
unidentified
I press video.
elijah schaffer
We don't see you, though.
I see me.
We don't see you.
mike lerner
Quite the existential problem he's having.
We can see him.
He can't see us.
unidentified
It's quite, but it's like, what is video calls?
elijah schaffer
This is like Pinocchio.
What is sight?
It's because sometimes we see it.
mike lerner
It's something like Pinocchio.
We send the body of the whale.
unidentified
Sometimes it's the best actual JVP.
elijah schaffer
Sometimes we don't understand what's happening.
aldo buttazzoni
JVP.
elijah schaffer
Call us back.
Hold up.
I'm sorry.
We have to go off that one.
Hold up.
Let me go here.
Wilson David said, call me daddy.
Okay, here we go.
Let's try this.
aldo buttazzoni
That's good, Mike.
Very nice.
unidentified
Sometimes it's not about seeing, but it's about knowing.
mike lerner
I'm not going to do it.
elijah schaffer
Wilson Davids, can you turn your video or are you trying to stay anonymous?
Let us know.
unidentified
I'll turn it on real quick.
elijah schaffer
If you can, that'd be great.
We'd love to see you here and your permissions.
mike lerner
Prayer beads.
elijah schaffer
It shouldn't be.
Let us know when you have it on.
All right, there we are.
Let's go full screen, Brian.
All right, Wilson, how are you doing?
You're here with Gina Bontempo.
You're here with everyone else.
Mike Lerner, Alda Badazzoni, John Doyle, myself.
Do you have any questions, anything you'd like to discuss?
unidentified
Well, first off, I just want to say thanks to both of you guys.
I listen to your guys' podcasts all day at work.
It's good for getting through the day.
elijah schaffer
Awesome, dude.
mike lerner
Is that directed to us?
unidentified
But yeah, no, I don't know.
Let me come back.
I have a quick question real quick.
Shoot.
mike lerner
Aldo, can you ask him if that's directed to us?
unidentified
I'm just kind of trying to stay positive right now, Baron.
Like, I don't know, you got a lot of shit going on.
I know we got some wins here and there going on, but how do you kind of try to stay white-billed during these times?
aldo buttazzoni
So, real quick, though, you know, when you said you listened to the podcast, was that also directed towards the IDG people?
unidentified
Yeah, no, I love their podcast.
They have some great guests on.
I love the variety.
aldo buttazzoni
Hell yeah.
Love to hear that.
elijah schaffer
Okay, real fast.
Brian, take him off screen real fast.
I'm going to see if I can.
aldo buttazzoni
Wait, wait, you're them for some reason, but we'll be relaying.
elijah schaffer
No, no, let me see real fast.
I might have an issue.
I might know what the issue is.
Hold up.
In terms of, let me just see if I have the issue here.
Audio source.
No, it's system audio.
Wait, hold up.
Fuck, Brian.
aldo buttazzoni
What's going on here, Mike?
How long have you guys been doing the IDG podcast?
Because I see you guys, obviously.
This is the first time.
mike lerner
Third week of December we started.
unidentified
Yeah.
End of last year.
There we ended last year.
aldo buttazzoni
Awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I'm sorry.
I don't know why they can't hear him in the call, Brian.
We don't have the problem with that.
But just you can't hear us.
Wilson, David, you can't hear us, but I'm going to let them speak and then we'll reiterate it to you very shortly.
unidentified
Yeah, I was watching on the stream.
I can hear the IDG guys, but yeah.
elijah schaffer
Can you hear them on the stream?
unidentified
I don't have the stream up.
It was on my phone.
elijah schaffer
Can you hear them on this?
We'll check, actually.
Yeah, you can hear my story.
unidentified
I can hear it on the call, though.
elijah schaffer
Okay, yeah.
So go ahead.
I know we can hear you on the stream.
So go ahead and let us know what you think and we'll reiterate it back to him.
So go ahead.
How do you say white-pilled in moments like this?
Yeah, you won't hear them, but we'll tell you.
mike lerner
So yeah, just you can reiterate every sentence after I say it because obviously you can't hear us.
Let him know that Mike used to be blackpilled and he said so a couple times on the show.
aldo buttazzoni
Michael black pilled and he said so a couple times on the show.
unidentified
So it's just going.
mike lerner
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to keep going.
So I'm going to take my headphones off so I don't hear you.
But we've had a couple of Christian guests.
aldo buttazzoni
They've had a couple of Christian guests who have helped me come to the white light.
unidentified
Okay, so for me, this is so retarded.
I stay white-pilled.
You got to stay in the word every day.
Reading the Bible on a regular basis, being a part of a Christian community.
And for me, it's my daughter.
Like, I just look at my daughter and I'm white-pilled.
mike lerner
Have kids.
Yeah, have kids.
unidentified
Have kids and have many.
That keeps me white-pilled.
elijah schaffer
So she just said, stay in the Bible, have kids, follow God.
And that should be the perspective.
What are your thoughts on that?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm trying to work towards that a step at a time.
I've heard you mention a lot.
It's kind of like a day-by-day sort of battle.
You take the wins you can get.
So right now, I live in California.
I don't live in the bad parts.
I'm sort of in the Northern California region.
And it's not as bad here, but you definitely see kind of despair going on, I guess.
Just like the homeless people, the crazy people, man.
It's pretty wild.
And funnily enough, I'm looking to move to Tennessee and kind of try to get some land out there and become more independent than where I'm at right now.
But it's, I'd say, I have a lot of, I look to that to try and look to having kids and like try to make that my reason for the white pill and try and make a better society.
So that's kind of where I'm at right now.
mike lerner
Yeah, and I think that's telling them to come to Tennessee.
elijah schaffer
They said come to Tennessee.
that's mike said that and i will say because because the audience i have a bachelorette for you in tennessee she has a She has a bachelorette for you.
And I'm going to tell you this, my friend, is this is why we have to be very careful not to be judged by people because this is why the SOBs are slightly offensive backers.
We're all bit misovets.
We're a bit weird and we're a bit strange.
But we also understand that like, that's why even Mike was like, oh, you said cunt and a Bible verse in one sentence.
It's true.
It's because I understand there's a lot of people who can quote Bible verses and a lot of people who can be crass, but a lot of us are somewhere in between.
That's why we have the new podcast, Messy Christianity, in general.
We're just complicated individuals.
And the way you do better is just every day.
It's like you look at porn last night.
You fuck a hooker.
You hang out with Hunter Biden, smoke crack, and have 37 hookers.
I'm not that cool, man.
Yeah, I'm not that cool either.
But I'm saying, like, my point is you wake up today, you feel bad.
What's your decision?
You either A, repeat your mistakes or you choose to try to do better.
So, so that's all it is.
You wake up in the morning.
Do I try to do better or do I not?
And what's my standard for better?
Is it the left?
Is it the world?
No, it's God.
Can I believe in God and still be a worldly person?
Yeah, you can.
Is it good?
No.
But you go, I feel anxiety.
I feel pain.
I feel hurt.
I feel separated from people.
I feel separated from God.
Why?
Because my own sin, my own mistakes.
So we try to do better.
I appreciate you.
We're going to let you go and we'd love to talk to you in the future.
We're going to call a couple other people.
Any last words?
unidentified
Thank you so much.
mike lerner
Alan, we appreciate it.
unidentified
Brian, we appreciate it.
mike lerner
Can you ask him if he's a citizen?
unidentified
I love work every day.
I hope so.
So keep on getting on.
elijah schaffer
We love you, bro.
Mike, want to know, are you a citizen?
unidentified
I'm not.
Well, I'd say I'm a citizen, but I haven't joined the men's club yet.
I'm going to get there.
I got rent coming up in two weeks, man.
I'll pay the rent.
I'll be a citizen.
Let's go.
elijah schaffer
Let's go.
unidentified
All right.
Come to Tennessee.
I'll find you a bride.
All right.
elijah schaffer
We're going to take a couple more.
We're going to take 11.02.
Okay.
We're going to take two more calls.
Yeah.
Good.
He had pizza.
I got, I got everyone pizza.
Hi, John.
john doyle
I'm doing great.
elijah schaffer
Can you guys put on the super chat, the ghetto chats real fast, Brian?
Ghetto chats.
Brian's in the chat.
We got a ghetto chats.
Here we go.
Brian put it up.
Ghetto chats.
Yes.
Link in the description.
Venmo, PayPal.
We'll read them.
We have two more calls.
Then we'll get the ghetto chats and the memes.
I'm really happy.
Isn't that really great, ghetto chats?
John is fading.
How are you fading?
unidentified
How are you fading?
john doyle
Join the ghetto chats.
Look, nobody loves the ghetto chats more than me.
I will say that.
And I'm not fading.
mike lerner
I'm going to give the kid a coffee.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Can we get?
I'm going to tell Kevin to give him a coffee.
Oh, been in the gym a ton.
Yes, I'm a John Doyle fan.
john doyle
You know what's funny?
Someone who's watching the stream just texting me like, oh, you're drunk, drunk.
elijah schaffer
No, he's not drunk, drunk.
john doyle
He's from.
He's drinking water.
You know, I have.
So it's sort of weird because I have like the Irish tolerance, but also the I don't drink lack of tolerance.
And so Elijah Shaver's passing me shots.
And I just want to talk about politics.
elijah schaffer
You know, I want to.
No, he's fine.
It's a live stream.
I'm looking for a girl real fast just because honestly, okay.
unidentified
Tipsy John.
elijah schaffer
Okay, only call me if John talks to me.
This is Jackie.
Let's go.
Here we go.
john doyle
Thank you.
I guess I talked to a woman.
elijah schaffer
John, this is your call.
Sorry about the technical issues, guys.
I find this myself.
I don't know what's going on.
Half the shit, I just make it up.
And when you guys give, by the way, it helps pay the producer because he's doing it for free, by the way, this whole show.
And then if you guys give, he gets a percentage of the ghetto.
Yeah, he has a percentage.
He's doing that.
john doyle
I'm praying for Brian.
Oh, meant my life.
elijah schaffer
Really?
Do you want to block Jackie from messaging you?
No, let's try one more time.
Jackie, you said call me if John wants to talk to me.
And then you just gave up.
john doyle
Jackie, you just block her.
elijah schaffer
Two minutes ago.
How'd that even happen?
The women don't pick up.
That's the problem.
I try to call women.
They don't pick up.
Someone's going to clip that.
I try to call ladies and they never answer their phone.
Jackie.
unidentified
Hello.
elijah schaffer
Jackie, are you willing to do a video?
Are you not in a position to do that?
unidentified
Wait, I'm sorry about what?
elijah schaffer
Are you in a position to be on video right now or no?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Can you turn on the video if possible just because, yeah, fuck it.
Let's go.
mike lerner
We love calling our Johnson.
elijah schaffer
Everyone on Telegram has to be 18.
So if they're not, that's Telegram's fault on ours.
mike lerner
Okay.
elijah schaffer
Oh, we can't see you, but hey, Jackie, can we bring on some light, something here?
There you are.
Jackie.
unidentified
Is it like super dark?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we can see you now.
Jackie, John Doyle is actually here talking to you.
john doyle
Hi, Jackie.
How are you doing?
unidentified
I know.
I really feel like I'd like for this to happen.
I was just messing around.
john doyle
Gina, are you okay?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you thought, you thought, but also, Jackie, so we can barely see you, but you look very beautiful.
You look lovely.
You have a nice voice.
We love you.
You have any questions, any concerns, anything going on here?
unidentified
You know, a couple weeks ago, I tried to rate your podcast on Spotify, and it wouldn't let me get past four stars.
It was so weird.
elijah schaffer
Really?
unidentified
Yes, it literally, I was trying to put five stars, and it wouldn't let me submit it.
mike lerner
She's talking to us.
unidentified
Really weird.
I think she's talking to Elijah.
mike lerner
No, she's talking to us, I think.
I think she's talking to all of us.
elijah schaffer
Are you talking to I'm Doing Great or myself?
unidentified
About what?
I'm sorry.
elijah schaffer
Are you talking to me, Elijah, or to Mike and Jackie?
unidentified
Yeah, to you, Elijah.
elijah schaffer
See, it happens to all of us.
mike lerner
We had the same problem.
Yeah, okay.
unidentified
I'm not talking to you, Eliza.
elijah schaffer
But you can't leave even one star on She-Hulk on Rotten Tomatoes.
You know about that, right?
You can't leave one star reviews.
They don't let you leave one star.
mike lerner
86%.
I completely believe that.
elijah schaffer
Well, Jackie, Jackie, you're one of the...
Can you hear them, by the way?
Can you hear Mike and Gina?
unidentified
Hi, can you hear us?
elijah schaffer
Well, I don't know what's happening with that.
I will say this, though.
So one of my main questions is for you is you're one of the 30% of females who watch this show.
We have the I'm Doing Great podcast here.
You guys need to subscribe.
If you don't subscribe, you're retarded.
You have to go subscribe.
Go to I'm Doing Great.
Subscribe.
If you're watching this live, there's no description on the show, but there will be when it posts.
We'll have all their socials.
So make sure you go in.
Because it's such a good podcast.
One of my favorites to listen to of all times.
They even had Bryson Gray on recently.
You got to watch John on there.
It's so good.
They even have Fwick Nentes.
But Jackie.
mike lerner
Had him on twice.
elijah schaffer
Do you have any questions for anyone or any discussion points you'd like to bring up on the chat here?
unidentified
Honestly, I really didn't expect you guys to call me.
I was just messing around really.
So I'm a little bit embarrassed almost.
elijah schaffer
We love it.
Any question for John, for Don Joyo?
Or any comment?
Would you like to say anything to him?
unidentified
He's listening.
I'm not drinking right now.
elijah schaffer
Nah, he's just a little buzz.
I was there.
It didn't happen like that.
john doyle
Yeah, no, he knows the whole story.
Doesn't know what happened.
It's just kids talking shit.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, nobody, nothing happened.
Any comments for him?
Because he'd love to hear it.
He's a single guy.
He likes to know what's going on in life.
unidentified
No, I know.
He doesn't like when girls simp over him.
So, nah.
john doyle
See, Jackie gets it.
She at least understands what's going on.
elijah schaffer
All right.
unidentified
All right.
I know.
I shouldn't say anything.
I'm just going to be like, I like your content, John.
I like all of your guys' content.
elijah schaffer
We love you, Jackie.
We're going to let you go.
We appreciate it.
We'll take one more caller here before we go to memes.
Thanks, Jackie.
unidentified
All right.
Bye, guys.
elijah schaffer
Bye.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
We'll take one more here.
Let's go.
Last caller here.
I know.
I don't know what.
Okay, we'll figure that out.
I'm doing great.
I would say at least once a month or every other month, this group needs to get together.
Would you agree with that?
At least.
unidentified
I'd do it.
elijah schaffer
I would say we need to get together just to like, just to dig, take drinks, and hang out.
No drinks.
Actually, let's see.
One more person.
Where are we at?
Call me.
That would be sick.
Jesse Hughes says that would be sick.
Okay, Jesse.
You better be cool.
I'm going to fucking fuck you up.
Here we go.
Jesse Hughes, you are live on the offensive podcast on Saturdays.
We can see you here in your backwards cap.
What's up, motherfucker?
unidentified
I don't know why my headphones aren't working.
What's up, guys?
How are y'all?
aldo buttazzoni
Hey, what up?
elijah schaffer
What's up, bro?
All right.
So you are live in front of an audience.
You're on Blaze TV.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Let's freaking go.
I'm doing great.
Just got fished.
It's welcome week here at Liberty University.
We just got finished watching.
Sick.
That movie is wild, but you know it is what it is.
I love it.
mike lerner
What do you say?
Can you ask me to repeat that?
elijah schaffer
What movie did you say?
What movie?
You broke up there for a second.
What is it?
Mega Monro Jesse okay, so we have the I'm doing great podcast here on.
You can't hear them because I'm ghetto, but do you have any questions or comments or anything you'd like to talk about or anything you'd like to ask anyone here in the room, and we'd love to answer them for you.
Ready that the floor is yours?
unidentified
Yeah so um well, the first thing uh John, I know I got cars in the text you every day, but check your email, bro.
But secondly uh, so i'm like starting to dip my feet into the um podcast world.
Uh, doing some of the stuff y'all inspired me to do some stuff like that with uh podcasting, with youtube, and I was just wondering from all of y'all uh, just like some practical tips on more of the uh promotion side of things and like trying to draw more attention, because you know, i'm still working on building a brand, i'm still working on doing all that kind of stuff.
But uh, just the um practical side of everything of getting uh, my name out there, getting some of this stuff built up.
All that John, Oh Uh.
john doyle
Well, there's two things as a person.
One, my attention span has been eroded by the internet and by full screen john.
Go full screen, john.
So i'm not willing to watch something that is like a podcast, that is long form, unless I am familiar with you.
Which gets into the second point, which is like, if i'm not familiar with you, i'm not going to give you 40 minutes, 45 minutes of my time.
That's the one resource I cannot create more of for myself.
I don't know you.
Why would I click on a video or a podcast of yours?
It's 45 minutes, it's an hour and a half if I don't know who you are.
So what I would say is that record the podcast, record the content that you want to record however, clip that, market it, even pay for third-party advertisements if you have to.
That will allow my initial viewership.
Exactly that will bump you up into the algorithm.
That will allow you to be competitive.
That's the strategy that I did, probably the strategy that ID is doing, which is why they've been so successful for a long form, a long form podcast just showing up on Youtube and they've already got like what, 15 000 subscribers in less than a year, so you know the content can be good 17 recently they went up like excuse me well, excuse me okay, first of all, nobody respects Id more than myself.
I will say that.
But secondly, that's what you got to do.
The content can be good, but the question is, how do you get that content in front of people?
And I think the strategy is being willing to invest money into advertising and doing so competitively, like everybody else does, and coming on the show too.
elijah schaffer
Just being on people's shows helps so much with credibility in terms of seo.
No one talks about this like like the the effect, and I and I say this like i'm going on Timpool is a very big podcast um, and I go on, I try to go on there pretty regularly um, I never gain maybe more than like 200 subscribers.
If you're new to the podcasting world, you probably gain 10 000, but I gain like 200 and and uh, Gina would know this the reason why it's important is called relevancy.
So staying in the algorithms, so like just going on other big name shows.
It's not that I gain subs, just that, like when you search up Elijah Schaefer.
It takes relevancy or slightly offensive.
And then I show up on TIM POOL, I show up on Crowder, I show up on FOX NEWS.
You show up on a lot of places like in the search, and they're not gonna go on a, you know a Tim Pool episode from two years ago.
They're gonna take one from this year and what's happening now.
So get them as many podcasts as possible, because you never know who's gonna blow up.
You never know what's gonna happen.
Um, we are gonna let you go.
I appreciate you, but we have to get into some of these things.
john doyle
Appreciate you, bro.
elijah schaffer
What's your podcast?
unidentified
Plug your podcast Right now, it's literally just called the Jesse Hughes SHOW.
It's on Apple Spotify, all of that.
I use Anchor to record.
And I've been in D.C. doing an internship this summer, so I haven't had that much time to record stuff.
But now that I'm back here, and now that I, weirdly enough, being at school, have a little bit more time to do things.
I'm going to get back into it.
I'm going to get into the grind again.
But thank you guys so much.
On behalf of the College Republicans of Liberty University, you all have open invitations.
John, you literally have an invitation in your email.
Please email me back.
elijah schaffer
Have John and I come out together because I have a few speeches.
John and I are going to speak in Miami too in October.
unidentified
What?
elijah schaffer
We're speaking in Miami in October, I thought.
john doyle
I don't know anything about that.
elijah schaffer
Okay, I think so we are.
I have quite a few speeches lined up with John and I. Have John and come out together because John and I do well.
We'll share it.
We share.
We share a lot.
unidentified
I would love to have both of y'all.
We're still trying to work on fundraising and stuff right now.
But I would love to talk behind the scenes, get y'all out here.
elijah schaffer
But yeah, if you want this, email me, Elijah at slightlyoffensive.com.
I'll actually get back to you.
unidentified
Gotcha.
Sounds great.
elijah schaffer
I'm sorry.
I'm like 13 years older than John.
mike lerner
We appreciate him.
unidentified
No, I've literally had to get.
I met Carson Wolf a few weeks ago in an event.
I've literally had to get him to text John for me and stuff.
elijah schaffer
John is too busy.
He's working too hard on his next piece of content.
He can't get him out in time for it.
Real?
aldo buttazzoni
That's literally half my life.
People are in my DMs.
They're like, hey, can you relay this information to John Doyle?
I'm like, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I have an assistant for a reason, but you can.
I have to go, bro.
I'm going to hit let you go.
I have to let him go.
Okay.
We're going to finish with some meme reviews here.
Just give me a second here.
So let's start with some of these.
Let me see if I can get some of these up here.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
So meme reviews.
Oh, they're trying to call me back.
I can't talk to them.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
Meme review for tonight.
Here we go.
Let's go on.
Meme review.
Sorry, that was bass.
We can't take you.
I'm so sorry.
Wow.
next time so that was um yep that that's who's sniping my p Is that out of time?
john doyle
Have you ever noticed how Elijah's memes are just like photographs that have Elijah or various characters from his universe inadequately photoshopped onto like other entities within the environment?
Like they're not like memes.
They're just like images that look cursed.
elijah schaffer
What's wrong with that?
john doyle
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.
It's just an obstacle.
elijah schaffer
Gina, Mike, what's wrong with memes like that?
Look at this.
Look at this.
Ready for this?
Go that?
I'm too cool to dance.
aldo buttazzoni
So true.
So true.
John, you were dogging on Mike at the beginning of the pod or at the beginning of the episode for not turning in his cool card.
You won't turn in your cool card to dance?
john doyle
I'm an animated guy, okay?
I'm engaged in the program.
I'm making commentary.
This is what Mike was doing.
He was going, I'm Mike from the IDG podcast.
I'm going to keep a straight face and be stoic.
That's what he was doing, okay?
I've turned in my cool card.
I'm not going to dance, all right?
I'm not going to dance for $10.
It's called humor.
unidentified
He gets sleepy when he's drunk.
mike lerner
It's called humor.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
Is anyone like me too?
aldo buttazzoni
He's not wasted.
That's why he's not drunk.
That's not dancing.
john doyle
No, bait.
John is black people.
No, I'm not.
Okay.
unidentified
John is sharp.
aldo buttazzoni
I know what state we're in.
mike lerner
He might be a little dangerous.
aldo buttazzoni
Oh, God, Elijah.
unidentified
Elijah.
john doyle
Oh, here we go.
Look what you did.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
We're doing this.
aldo buttazzoni
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
john doyle
Look what you did, Aldo.
mike lerner
Elijah, has anyone ever told you to cut out sugars out of your diet?
unidentified
What?
mike lerner
No, being serious.
I looked like that not too long ago, and I want you to get cut, dude.
elijah schaffer
I'm bulking.
Every day's a bulk.
aldo buttazzoni
All right.
mike lerner
Cut out the processed sugars.
john doyle
Me when I ordered $200 from Uber Eats Chick-fil-A every day as well.
aldo buttazzoni
Well, Mike, you bring up a kind of a good point.
I was talking to John today about what are the, what are the, I asked him, what are your, what do you think are the three biggest threats to America right now?
Mine were incels, the three-letter agencies, specifically the FBI and the ATF, and seed oils.
So I feel like with your processed sugars, you know, seed oils.
Seed oils are in my top three.
I kind of want to.
mike lerner
I'd say liberal white women.
john doyle
Real.
mike lerner
Abortion and seed oils.
unidentified
I would say the trans agenda.
elijah schaffer
Transgender.
aldo buttazzoni
You got two more.
Gina, you got two more.
Top three.
unidentified
I would say seed oils is included in just the standard American diet in general.
It's a huge threat.
Yeah, it's one of the biggest threats.
elijah schaffer
I'm just feeling good because I can do like 245 right now.
unidentified
I'm feeling like, oh, so we're keeping this up.
aldo buttazzoni
Yeah, hell yeah, John.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
Woo!
Oh my god.
elijah schaffer
Let's go.
I only did it.
I only did it because I'm a monkey.
john doyle
I'll dance for $10.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, shut the fuck up, John.
You bitch.
All right.
Ready for this?
Okay, here's this one.
aldo buttazzoni
Ready?
elijah schaffer
We went shirtless because it's actually one of the things is that I'm actually really, really enjoying this.
I'm great at controlling my anger.
I do it all the time when I'm cat called in the street when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me.
I do it pretty much every day because if I don't, I get emotional or difficult or I might just literally get murdered.
So I'm an expert at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you.
So there's that.
mike lerner
10 out of 10.
10 out of 10.
elijah schaffer
Yep.
Okay, next meme.
Like, what is this?
I don't even understand this one.
aldo buttazzoni
John, how much would it cost somebody for you to take your shirt off?
elijah schaffer
I'm going to back on my shirt.
john doyle
Take my shirt off?
aldo buttazzoni
Yeah, how much?
elijah schaffer
I don't care what to take my shirt off.
Who the fuck cares?
unidentified
Not a lot.
I don't know.
aldo buttazzoni
What's the price, John, for somebody to take it off?
mike lerner
Should everybody in the room take his shirt off if a super chat is sent his or her way?
aldo buttazzoni
That's a good point.
mike lerner
Someone's like, here's 20 bucks for Mike to take his shirt off.
I'll take my shirt off.
aldo buttazzoni
I kind of like that.
mike lerner
I would want to defend her honor.
Gina keeps her shirt on.
unidentified
It's not happening.
Yeah.
aldo buttazzoni
All right, meme.
Next meme.
Here we go.
elijah schaffer
So the next meme.
No.
We're getting fucking bulked as fuck.
unidentified
Can you put on a different shirt or is it the same shirt?
mike lerner
Same shirt.
elijah schaffer
I just had to do that to make John, because people would meme John.
And so now I had to take away their meme power being like, oh, John's so this.
Let me meme this.
Now I just shirtless on a stream.
I've never done that before like that.
So now I have to take it away so that people don't fuck with John.
I got John's back, right?
John, did I get your back right now?
john doyle
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Because that's not the biggest part.
It's not John's garlic sauce nationalism.
All right, go to my screen.
All right, we got this here.
We got the girl.
What is that?
john doyle
It's what I'm talking about.
Your memes are just photos.
Your face photoshopped over them.
unidentified
Wait, what was the IRS one?
elijah schaffer
I don't know.
aldo buttazzoni
That's a good one.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
elijah schaffer
Oh, it's pretty good.
aldo buttazzoni
That's a good idea of color.
I like that.
elijah schaffer
That was pretty good.
unidentified
That was cool.
elijah schaffer
That was pretty good.
aldo buttazzoni
Gina and Mike, did you guys see the...
mike lerner
This is literally how we'd like...
Yeah.
aldo buttazzoni
Did you guys see the Buzz Lightyear film?
unidentified
No.
aldo buttazzoni
Okay.
mike lerner
The other question I wanted to ask before was, would we be making as big of a deal about the She-Hulk bullshit if it wasn't on Disney?
Like, if obviously it's a bigger issue because Disney Plus is pushing it to a specific group or, you know, age demographic.
Like, if it was on Hulu, I don't think it'd be as big of a deal.
It's all trash on there.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but I talked about Sandman on Netflix was like a good show, but it was so woke.
It was bad in terms of like, it was a very good storyline.
And they actually stayed true to the comics in terms of it was genuinely interesting of a show.
But the fact that everyone was gay was weird.
So like, it's like they mixed good and bad together.
mike lerner
Most base part of any movie that I've ever seen, I did watch the They Them movie, and there is a scene where these people go to like a gay conversion camp or whatever it is, and Kevin Bacon, who's the camp counselor, separates the group of kids into male and female.
So, this you see this female-looking person go into one of the showers, and he takes off his clothes, and you see him from behind.
I say, wait a minute, that doesn't look like a girl ass.
One of the camp counselors comes in, pulls the woman out of the group, out of the shower, brings her to Kevin Bacon, and he's like, You lied to me.
And she's like, What do you mean?
I'm a woman.
He's like, No, you're not.
john doyle
You're lying.
unidentified
What's the plot line of this movie?
mike lerner
It's just there really is no plot to it.
It's just some transgender person saves the day.
I don't want to go into it.
But anyway, Kevin Bacon just called out a trans person for occupying the wrong gender at the camp, and I thought that was amazing.
unidentified
Huh?
elijah schaffer
We have more.
We have more.
Here you go.
I doubt that.
Here's this one.
Here you go.
It's me and Kez.
You guys are so fast and so good at this.
I know.
unidentified
Like, this Brian Stelter.
elijah schaffer
Okay, pretty good.
We have.
Who's that?
aldo buttazzoni
Monolith made that.
elijah schaffer
Really?
Who's that?
mike lerner
Lisa?
aldo buttazzoni
I don't want to get into it.
elijah schaffer
There's me as Brian Stelter.
It's pretty good.
Good.
That's just weird.
aldo buttazzoni
I don't know what that even means.
elijah schaffer
Me neither, but like, it's weird, but it's very much on brand.
Please come on.
Where'd you guys get that picture?
It's the weirdest.
You guys find the weirdest pictures.
I never even get them.
And I don't know where you find these images of me from, but they're so good.
They're so good.
There's John Transgender.
john doyle
Post-op John Doyle.
elijah schaffer
What do you guys think about?
Let's get a rating of post-op John Doyle.
unidentified
I give him a solid strong five and a half.
john doyle
I think a strong six.
unidentified
Really?
elijah schaffer
No.
That's way too low.
Yeah, I would say it's a.
Yeah, he looks good.
No, too big.
mike lerner
He's too big.
elijah schaffer
That's the Ben Shapiro sister issue coming happening right now.
There's something under there.
No, there's something under that.
She looks buff, but there's a little more pack and heat.
Anyone see?
Let me see.
All right, where are you at?
Let me give me a second.
mike lerner
The heavies.
John Doyle with the heavies.
elijah schaffer
Oh, there's that.
mike lerner
Wait, Joan Doyle with the heavies.
aldo buttazzoni
Joan Doyle.
elijah schaffer
Someone's got something.
Look at this.
Someone's got something like a projector.
That's crazy.
Someone's like projecting this in a room.
That's a projector.
We got this too.
That one's good.
And then faded.
john doyle
What does that say?
elijah schaffer
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
Let's see.
Is it ghetto chats?
That is me.
It's me.
unidentified
Please, my ghetto chat.
elijah schaffer
Okay, that was pretty good.
I just want to talk about politics.
john doyle
Real.
unidentified
True.
elijah schaffer
They're asking you, John.
mike lerner
Come on, big guy.
unidentified
For $10?
john doyle
What do I look like?
unidentified
Some sort of somebody for $10.
aldo buttazzoni
You said you would if someone sent money.
elijah schaffer
Oh, I love this meme.
We have to break this down as a group here.
We're in the last part of the show, but look at this.
This is my favorite meme right now.
Pitbull and it's like, her name is Pancake, and she's a sweet.
john doyle
Yeah, that's Mike.
Yeah.
Mike moment.
aldo buttazzoni
Wait, where did I see that?
You sent him that Gina?
I think it was on Elijah's story that I saw that.
elijah schaffer
No, listen, I just had a GM.
mike lerner
I just get this meme sent to me about 20 times a day.
It's just, it's not funny.
elijah schaffer
I don't like pit.
What is this real?
What is this?
unidentified
It really affects him when he sees these.
mike lerner
Elijah, that is a real pit bull.
aldo buttazzoni
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I know that.
I like Mike's subtle digs.
Mike, what should we do to not be buff as fuck?
How should we be cut like you?
What should we do?
What is a pit bull owner?
What should we do?
mike lerner
Talking to me?
unidentified
Yeah.
mike lerner
As a pit bull owner to get cut?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, since you're in the wise advice mode tonight, we want to hear you.
Wanna hear you're not being fucking psyched.
So if I don't want to lift 245 pounds, if I want to cut down by 100 pounds a lift and raise a pit bull, what do I do?
mike lerner
I don't understand the premise of the question.
unidentified
Gina, would you explain what a woman swing of tamer class?
Tell him tell him how to be a ripped pit bull owner.
What does he need to do?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, what do I do to lose 100 pounds of my lift, but look try to fuck and raise a pit bull, not have a purebred vijla and fucking be able to kill most people's parents.
What do I do?
mike lerner
Oh, well, dude, I already told you, if you give up refined sugars and gluten for about a month, you'd actually get cut and you probably lose a significant amount of body fat.
As far as owning a pit bull, I don't know how the two are related.
elijah schaffer
I related them.
mike lerner
I want you to be in your best physical shape so the pit bull that you one day own can look at you and be proud of you.
Okay, and not have to impress you by bringing you the bodies of babies.
unidentified
Is that going to prevent it from mauling kids?
mike lerner
Yes.
Yes.
If a pit bull's owner is cut.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Let's have John into this.
What do you think, John?
elijah schaffer
Wait, wait, Mike, where are you coming in shirtless?
Are you coming in or what?
Are you ashamed?
Why are you ashamed?
mike lerner
No, where's the super chat?
elijah schaffer
If you guys, someone gives 50 bucks, he'll take off his shirt.
I'm not joking.
It's real.
mike lerner
And here's the thing, though.
Honestly.
elijah schaffer
I'll send it to him, too.
I'll demo him 50 bucks.
unidentified
I will.
elijah schaffer
I'll demo him.
mike lerner
Okay.
Well, when it hits, I'll get a notification.
But we've discovered that there's an age difference in the pit bull apologist.
The older you are, the more of an apologist you are.
The younger you are, the more that you hate the pit bull.
Yeah.
It seems to correlate.
unidentified
Oh.
Oh, is that why Kai hates pit bulls too?
Because he's young?
mike lerner
I think Kai is just emulating some of his friends.
I don't think he really thinks that.
john doyle
Hey, hey, whoa, Kai is a very intelligent young man.
He's perfectly capable of forming his own opinions.
And I think even with these opinions, they tend to be derived from someone get John a water.
mike lerner
Hold on, look at who hates the pit bull.
You have John Doyle, who's under 27.
You have Elijah.
How old are you?
unidentified
He's 29.
mike lerner
Okay, he's 29, so he's maybe just crossed there.
So he might end his hatred soon.
You have Kai, who's significantly young.
Nick is significantly young.
The brain hasn't fully formed until you're 27.
So I think after 27 years of age, you might be able to accept that a pit bull is just a dog and not a human who you can impart human characteristics on.
aldo buttazzoni
Wait, John, you explain that.
mike lerner
They do all the time.
john doyle
This nibba is trying to make the argument that when I'm 25 and my prefrontal cortex develops, I'm going to be like, wait a minute, pit bulls are just dogs too.
No, they are biologically predisposed to be attackers, to be vicious, more so than other dogs, which is why, by majority, pit bulls are the most likely to maul children, to maul women, to maul people.
And actually, they're not even that courageous.
Pitbulls will run away from boxers, from Rottweilers, from Rhodesian Ridgebacks.
They're not even that courageous.
They only step up when they want to maul toddlers and pedestrians and what have you.
And, you know, the typical pit bull owner responds, the pit apologist response is, oh, it's not a bad dog.
It's just a bad owner.
You ever realize all the bad owners have pit bulls?
You ever realize that?
mike lerner
I've never seen a bad parents of these kids or, you know, the older people, the older generation who are getting attacked by these dogs.
What are they wearing?
What kind of sense do they have?
Because I'm going to victim blame for as long as I live.
Okay.
You got to watch what you're dressed in when you're around a pit bull because they do.
unidentified
So what should toddlers wear around pit bulls?
mike lerner
They shouldn't wear showy onesies.
Shouldn't wear frilly dresses, honestly?
john doyle
When you read a story, which you read about.
elijah schaffer
But the pit bull thing is people are like, oh, I just pissed.
You guys don't understand that the pit bull conversation is so personal for all of us.
It's not about me being mad.
It's about me being an advocate for humanity.
It's about me fighting for mothers being victims.
It's about me fighting for George Floyd.
This is so big.
Like, I mean, oh, like Martin Luther King Jr.
I'll celebrate Labor Day.
I'll celebrate D-Day.
Have you ever fought against pit bull owners?
Then you haven't fought shit.
Welcome to the real world, the real history.
John, go ahead.
john doyle
I was going to say, pit bull owners are the epitome of late-stage liberalism.
And these people are willing to make any excuse for the behavior of these creatures.
And yeah, I mean, he said it himself with, oh, what are they worth?
mike lerner
Here he goes again, like equating, like a dog, to types of people who.
unidentified
That's why John says that the white women who own pit bulls fuck them when their husbands they do.
john doyle
They literally do.
This is a thing that happens and we just need to accept what it is.
Some types of species.
mike lerner
Well, does it say anything that pit bulls are more alpha than their own husbands?
elijah schaffer
Do you know?
One in 200, do you know?
Do you know this?
One in 200 pap smears has dog semen in it, and they can find out.
One in 200 pap smears i'm not just not a joke one in 200, like pap smears, has dog semen in it, which means that women are being rough in their meow.
You know, i'm saying so, let's just listen.
mike lerner
Just for anyone that is unfamiliar with us, go back and watch Elijah's first appearance on the podcast, where he actually looks at photos.
unidentified
Oh, you mean the episode where John called his friend.
mike lerner
Yes, correct.
elijah schaffer
Yes, no one understands.
So no one understands this show.
In the chat they're like, oh, is Elijah really mad?
Yes, this is real anger.
I have a genuine thing.
It's Alliebeth Stuckey and I have zero things in common besides the fact that we both have the pit bull thing.
But yes, the pit bull thing, Allie stuck and I have found common ground.
She she, she appears on my show now because we both don't like pit bulls.
Why?
It's not because we don't like pit bulls, it's because we love children and we love the future offspring of America and we want to see them sick.
unidentified
Do you love children, Mike?
elijah schaffer
Oh, I love children yeah oh okay, justify me so so, so here's the thing someone wanted to know, am I always for real angry at my guests?
Yes, like when I chopped off, uh quarter Black Garrett's arm with a sword.
That was real.
Oh okay, I didn't know that, but we appreciate it now.
unidentified
I, now I gotta take a rhythm.
elijah schaffer
Now you gotta take it.
Yes, you gotta take, you gotta take go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
unidentified
Here goes the cut.
elijah schaffer
Here's my cut.
Here goes my cut.
Here we go.
Here it goes.
Here it goes.
Take it off Mike Alright Alright well listen to him for a second Johnny taking it off John or no Not today Probably not today This is all like Not eating processed sugars And bread for about two months All right.
aldo buttazzoni
Honestly, my favorite thing, Gina, about you is your diet, your nutrition stuff.
I think it's very healthy.
I really respect you for that, and I appreciate your content.
unidentified
It's the 85-15 rule, people.
85% of the time you eat what you know you should eat.
15% of the time you enjoy life.
mike lerner
Maybe shortlist.
aldo buttazzoni
So can I ask you, Gina, real quick?
For me, at least, I always say that the greatest thing that my parents instilled in me is my appreciation for good food.
You know, we've been going to the farmer's market since I can remember.
It was always raw milk, good, you know, good proteins.
And so when I see other people that, you know, really appreciate good foods, I really respect it and I really appreciate it.
But it makes me feel bad for the people that have never been taught good nutrition and who just think going to the grocery store, buying box macaroni and cheese is a balanced diet.
So was it the same for you that your parents instilled in you an appreciation for organic, nutritious, healthy food?
unidentified
Yeah, my mom was definitely, ever since I was a kid, she was always into healthy eating.
And I grew up in South Georgia, like a very small town in South Georgia.
It only had one stoplight.
So the typical diet that people eat there was very different than what we ate at home.
But my dad grew up very unhealthy.
So my mom completely changed the way that he ate.
And then, you know, obviously that trickled down to me.
And I remember when I was in elementary school, my mom was like, okay, you and your dad are getting kind of fat.
We need to really switch things around.
And that's when she, you know, taught me about what healthy food is, how to cook and how to bake too.
So that's kind of where it all started for me.
aldo buttazzoni
Yeah.
No, it's such a great thing.
mike lerner
Listen, my wife is no longer vegan.
unidentified
Yeah, good.
mike lerner
This is a real thing.
unidentified
Because it's really sad.
You know, although you say it's really sad that people think they have to go to the grocery store and they think it's, you know, fine to just eat box macaroni and cheese.
But what I think is also really sad is that people think that healthy means eating salads and not eating red meat and avoiding eggs because of cholesterol.
Like that makes me really sad because we've been programmed by public health organizations to think that grains are really good for you.
I mean, the food pyramid, like how many cups of grains do they recommend that we eat every day?
And grain literally causes brain atrophy and brain atrophy is the number one thing that causes autism in Alzheimer's.
So it's really sad that people, what they think is healthy, like I've had girls post on my page, they're like, you know, I eat really healthy.
All I eat is salads and I gave up meat.
And I'm like, that's a fast track to depression to not eat any animal products and just eat vegetables all the time.
So I find that to be sad too.
So everything that public health organizations tell you to do, just do the opposite.
Eat eggs, eat meat, eat raw milk, drink raw milk.
aldo buttazzoni
No, exactly.
And I love when you talk about the nutrition and how to lose weight, you know, as a female.
I don't know the female diet as much as you do, obviously, but about eating more protein and that helps you lose weight.
But when I was young, it was even, again, the sad part about our system is that we were buying raw milk from our farmer's market guy for years and years and years.
And then all of a sudden his insurance company, this raw milk producer, dropped him from liability because of the bacteria in the milk because they didn't want to take responsibility for it anymore, right?
Because the bacteria could cause problems, cause death, whatever.
So they dropped him.
And so as a result, we were unable to buy this raw milk.
And so that's another thing that I think is really unfortunate and just so crazy in America is that the FDA and insurance companies won't let us drink raw milk and discourage us from having these organic options.
But they will continue to allow people to drink what?
Multiple Sodas a day with 60 grams of sugar in it.
Like, how is that allowed?
mike lerner
Aldo, would you consume human breast milk as an option?
unidentified
I'm sure he's suckle-pilled.
aldo buttazzoni
Oh, God.
John has been trying to suckle pill me.
I don't have the full story here, but dude, it's a short story.
elijah schaffer
Have you ever seen the oxytocin and the chemicals that go from when contact goes on the nipple to the brain back to the alveolar mix?
And then you go down like your lungs, then you're in these glands and they squeeze the milk in.
It looks gross to many.
To me, it's like a paradise.
I'm going to read some Venmos here.
Let's go into this.
Christina Axberg sent $5.
Thank you.
And Maverick McFarlane, no one sent questions, but there you are.
Catherine Tucker said, live arm wrestling contest right now, please.
Sorry, no, it's not happening.
My whole dollar is on Elijah.
Thank you.
Also, have you heard of Jennifer Lull?
Her insight in the fertility industry is insane.
We'll look into that, Catherine.
Thank you so much.
We also have from Life Oakland said, nothing.
Thank you for the $5.
$10.69 from Ben.
He said, ghetto chap, this is a whole lot of money for your 40s.
What's your favorite non-scissor ghetto drink?
So non-alcohol ghetto drink.
I would say Topo Chico.
aldo buttazzoni
Oh, so good.
elijah schaffer
Topo Chico.
aldo buttazzoni
Mike and Gina, are you guys?
mike lerner
Does it have to be alcoholic water drinks?
elijah schaffer
No, non-scizerp.
So non-alcoholic.
aldo buttazzoni
Are you guys?
mike lerner
Oh, I go quarter water.
aldo buttazzoni
Are you sparkling water pilled?
I'm obsessed with sparkling water.
elijah schaffer
If you don't get, yeah, you have to be sparkling water.
unidentified
John?
mike lerner
Come on, dude.
unidentified
It's got to be Faygo Rye.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
aldo buttazzoni
Anyway.
elijah schaffer
Gina?
Non-alcoholic drink?
Non-alcoholic, non-water favorite drink.
I love this.
I'm a professional.
Everyone drinks.
I'm like.
And I'm like, let's go.
unidentified
All right.
mike lerner
Are we talking about what we're drinking now or like what?
elijah schaffer
No, what's your favorite?
No, no, it's just like, what's your favorite drink?
So for me, like, for instance, like, like, like, I don't like to date drink.
And so if, like, if someone's like, hey, you want, you want a drink on a, on a show, I just ask them for a Topo Chico and I'm cool.
Like, I'll, like, like, if I don't want normal water, like Topochico lime, I'm cool with that personally.
I love Gatorade G2.
I know it has bad dyes in it and shit.
Don't worry about it.
mike lerner
Oh, the olipops are good.
elijah schaffer
Olipops are bomb.
mike lerner
Yeah.
unidentified
I guess I heard the question.
It was like, if you're talking about taste, for me, I just love a cold Dr. Pepper.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Oh, love it.
unidentified
That's great.
elijah schaffer
My sister's an executive there, actually.
We can get free if you want free Dr. Pepper.
Cameron Short said, sick stream today.
Best host and best show on Blaze.
Thank you, Cameron.
Kristen Zaldivar said nothing.
We have another Laif Opland said, Gina and Mark love the show.
Big fan of you guys.
Especially the Destiny stream.
mike lerner
And someone in the chat just said, I take myself too seriously?
Does this guy not know?
unidentified
Like, what the hell?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you do.
unidentified
I think you take yourself too seriously.
Well, it's because you read comments like that and you take them seriously.
elijah schaffer
We have Tyler Jimmy sent some stuff.
Laif again, he said nothing.
Thank you.
Trevor Crump sends some stuff in nothing.
Another Trevor Crump, nothing.
Thank you, Trevor.
We have another Laif.
He said, John comes off as Nancy Pelosi's angry grandchild, but he finally danced and can appease the volcano spirits.
Also, here's my take John's shirt.
aldo buttazzoni
Mark, you weren't reading the chats before, but you and I, I feel like together were getting dragged earlier.
I embraced it.
It is what it is.
But yeah, I was definitely going to.
mike lerner
Well, no, well, I mean, I don't want to drag the chat, but most of these people are retarded.
unidentified
Kai wants us to read his comments.
Hi, Kai.
aldo buttazzoni
Re tweeting.
unidentified
Don't read those comments.
Read mine.
Hi, Kai.
When are you coming back on the show, Kai?
Come back to Tennessee.
We have unfinished business because your flight was delayed last time.
Okay.
I think John needs to go to sleep.
mike lerner
Oh, talking about chest.
Listen, this is very fucking high-tee chest hair.
Is what happens when you're a fucking actual man and you're not a fucking 17-year-old kid on the internet.
elijah schaffer
I had to share that recently.
Dude, you know what?
unidentified
John's not going to remember this.
aldo buttazzoni
John's blacked out right now.
elijah schaffer
No, he's not.
No, he's this.
aldo buttazzoni
No, I was in an hour.
elijah schaffer
I was with you.
Never had anything to drink.
John, I was with you.
You didn't even drink anything.
What is this?
Was I not with you and you had nothing to drink?
john doyle
When I drink, I get quiet.
aldo buttazzoni
John, what state are we in?
elijah schaffer
Wait, wait, hold up.
Joseph Thomas said, Love you, Elijah.
Keep being you, my man.
No, he's Joseph Thomas also said, Doyle, when are you making more videos?
Hard being a plant trust without content, just saying.
We also had the that was base said, Damn, you could make a fur rug out of all that hair.
Joseph Thomas also donated more money to take John's shirt off.
And we also have, yeah, we had Sizzy Spakey put $20, say, take it off, Mike.
You did that.
Tell me about Satanic Gay.
More John, take it off from the Toker download.
Where's the rest of these streams?
And then we love it.
It's been so good.
We're so happy with that.
I'm going to read one last for my brothers on Cash App.
Give me one second before we wrap the stream.
Dude, this is a great weekend stream.
It gets a lot of viewers, and it's like, I made this up, and it's not even slightly offensive.
We might even make a new channel for it, but it's doing so well.
I'm really happy with you guys.
You guys are fucking cool.
How do we even read these?
Hold up.
Does anyone know how to read the donations here?
Hold up.
Fuck.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
Oh, yeah.
Here we go.
Here we go.
mike lerner
I love Kai Clips, dude.
unidentified
I love Kai Clips.
mike lerner
I love him.
aldo buttazzoni
Have you guys had him on IDG?
mike lerner
Yeah.
Yeah, we had a little bit of a problem, though, because what was his flight was delayed, so he was only able to be on the show for about 45 minutes.
unidentified
But he promised that he would come with John next time.
Yes.
john doyle
Real.
aldo buttazzoni
Are you guys in Nashville?
unidentified
Hold on.
mike lerner
Maybe I'll call you.
unidentified
Right outside Nashville.
mike lerner
Hold on.
I can call Kai.
I'm just going to put him on the phone.
elijah schaffer
I'll call him on Telegram.
I can bring him on this main screen.
mike lerner
Hold on.
I'll just put him on the freaking speaker.
unidentified
You can put him in video.
elijah schaffer
But I can put him on video here.
Tell him.
mike lerner
Then he wouldn't be able to hear us.
Then he wouldn't be able to hear us.
elijah schaffer
Okay, that's true.
Okay.
You have a point.
So our last caller.
unidentified
Do you have him as Kai Clips in your phone?
Yeah.
mike lerner
Oh, oh, no.
unidentified
Wait, Some more memes.
elijah schaffer
Here we go.
Let's look at these last ones.
Here we go.
Hey, baby.
See this one?
We have that one here.
We have When Alcohol Hits You with That Dollar Store Buzz.
We have Elijah, software engineer.
We have streaking.
mike lerner
Can you go back to Gina as a man?
aldo buttazzoni
Go back to Gina.
Go back to Gina.
unidentified
I'm actually shocked at that facial hair.
You look pretty shy.
aldo buttazzoni
It looks good, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Let's go through here.
unidentified
I'm impressed by my beard.
elijah schaffer
Wait, hold up.
We have Elijah.
mike lerner
John, Kai is on one of the memes.
elijah schaffer
Hold up one second, John.
We have, oh, there's Mike Lerner as a transgender.
We have.
mike lerner
I don't look all that bad.
unidentified
You look pretty.
elijah schaffer
A little neck fat.
I love that.
Hey, John, you know that's top quality meme.
Like, like, like low resolution, bad masking.
That's best.
Yeah.
That's really nice.
We love shirtless Saturday shit stream.
We love that.
That's so nice.
I feel good.
I'm confident about myself.
I love my vagina.
I love that.
Her, like, wait, us as we're going shirtless and her just like, huh.
And then we have, we had empires run by emperors, then now kingdoms run by kings.
And now we have countries.
I've been looking forward to this.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha.
elijah schaffer
Pit bulls.
My pit bull.
I'm sorry.
So he's like, ah, grain's bad.
And then we have, I'll protect you, Elijah.
Okay, that's it.
That's it.
That's me and a Burka, by the way, underneath there.
Okay, Kai, we have you on.
You're ending the show tonight.
mike lerner
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Elijah wants to talk to you.
I want to know if you can hear him.
Hold on.
elijah schaffer
Kai.
mike lerner
Okay, go ahead, Kai.
You're on speaker.
unidentified
Hey, what's up, guys?
john doyle
Hello, chat.
You guys are so freaking awesome.
I'm teasing at every one of your comments.
mike lerner
Stop being so mean, though.
john doyle
You people are mean for no reason.
unidentified
We need to put more chipper, jovial, mirthfulness into the world.
elijah schaffer
And I happen to be an expert.
I'm taking that in college.
john doyle
My major is actually joviality.
unidentified
What's up, John?
What's up, Elijah?
elijah schaffer
College is gay, Kai.
unidentified
Good to see you guys.
john doyle
This is so freaking awesome.
elijah schaffer
Kai, why don't you come on a stream sometime soon?
mike lerner
Elijah wants to tell you to come on the stream someday soon.
elijah schaffer
Why don't you come on the 27th?
Absolutely.
john doyle
I'm always down.
elijah schaffer
The 27th, 27th.
With Adam Krigler and Chad Prater.
Wireless, remote.
mike lerner
Wireless, remote.
I think he said sure.
elijah schaffer
Okay, you're on.
27th.
I put you in books.
You're here.
mike lerner
Okay, bye, Kai.
Talk to you later.
unidentified
Bye, Kai.
mike lerner
Bye, Kai.
unidentified
I'm going home too.
Bye.
elijah schaffer
All right, so as we finish, okay, we're wrapping up.
Oh, oh, I thought you guys exited.
Okay.
Gina and Mike, where can people find you and follow you?
mike lerner
Well, where do we go?
Do you go on Instagram, IDG the podcast?
On YouTube, just search I'm doing great with an exclamation point, and then all our info is in the link trees in the Instagram.
unidentified
Easy peasy.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
aldo buttazzoni
Aldo, you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter.
Just set my name, Aldo Budazzoni.
And I just made a YouTube channel, so I'm going to be posting some short form content on there.
Also at Aldo Buttazzoni.
So follow me there.
john doyle
And John, I actually, throughout the course of the evening, started my first YouTube channel.
You can find it at youtube.com slash John Doyle.
And I will be posting content there in the near future.
What are you laughing at?
What are you laughing at?
Gina, you're sounding like you trust her.
mike lerner
Hold on.
Have you ever turned up on another live stream before?
Is this like a new thing?
unidentified
This is the first time.
john doyle
This is the first time I've been doing it.
elijah schaffer
No, we're neighbors.
This is my friend.
This is my home studio.
If you're on the Telegram, you would get it.
This is a very small room.
It's about the size of my studio at Blaze.
But this proves I can do whatever I want without any fucking support, right?
It's good.
john doyle
I don't know anything about politics or content or media or the right way.
Okay.
elijah schaffer
Let me tell you this, though, guys.
Support the show right here.
I co-produce a new movie.
You guys might not know this.
I can't fly you out, Gina or Mike, but if you'd like to fly out, I can get you tickets to the premiere of this in Dallas.
The new movie, Uncle Tom 2, I helped co-produce this.
So if you type in my code, Elijah E-L-I-J-A-H, it's my code.
I helped co-produce this.
This movie costs so much money.
It is a red pill movie.
It'll wake everybody up to the truth.
It's about how the elites practice in the black community how to destroy wealth, natural identity to use on a whole country through COVID and everything else.
So it explains how they basically practice destruction of a culture and of a race in order to take away their self-worth and their ability to grow so that they could keep them slaves to a system so they could use it on everybody else in this country and eventually the world.
It's really crazy.
It'll make you cry.
It's a red pill movie.
It's not even political.
But if you watch this, it'll wake people up to the reality.
I wanted to be involved in the movie that would change lives.
We worked on this for three years.
It's insane.
I co-produced it.
I helped with camera work.
It's by the same people, 2000 Mules, everything.
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My code Elijah E-I-J-A-H, 30% off.
Please get this movie.
Do not stop ordering it.
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I'm not joking.
There's stuff broken in this that we got from Yale archives, Harvard Archives.
People try to hide shit about our history that we unearthed.
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UncleTom.com promo code Elijah, and it just gives you the whole track record.
Do not miss this.
If you're already red-pilled, it'll red pill.
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Don't forget to follow us on social media, everywhere you can find it.
Remember, this podcast, this new show, Offensive Live, might not be on YouTube for very long.
I don't know where it's going to be.
We keep getting these pulled, so I don't know how long it'll stay up on here.
Might go on Rumble exclusively.
We'll talk to them.
I'll see what will happen.
But thank you so much to my guests, Gina, Mike, to John, and to Aldo.
You guys are awesome.
Make sure to click links in the description.
Make sure I'm doing great podcast.
You guys are on Spotify, iTunes, yes?
mike lerner
Spotify, Apple, Amazon has a streaming service that we're on.
unidentified
Everywhere.
mike lerner
Everywhere.
elijah schaffer
Everywhere as well as on YouTube.
I'm doing great.
Please follow them.
Thank you so much again.
My name is Elijah Shea for the best worst host here on Slightly Offensive.
But this is now the new Offensive Live, which is separating from the original podcast.
Have a great rest of the day, and may God bless the United States of America.
Thank you so much to Brian, our remote producer.
He's fucking cool.
And to all the ghetto chats, let's cut the stream, Brian.
unidentified
Fuck this shit, I'm out.
No tanks, don't mind me.
I'ma just grab my stuff and leave.
Excuse me, please.
Fuck this shit, I'm out.
Nope.
Fuck this shit, I'm out.
mike lerner
All right, then.
unidentified
I don't know what the fuck just happened, but I don't really care.
I'ma get the fuck up out of here.
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