The Horrifying State of Humanity | Guests: Zuby & Philipp Tanzer | Ep 226
Working is now a privilege, eating meat is now racist and misogynistic, yoga classes are now being offered at a discount (but only for people of color), and the skin color of your emojis dictates your knowledge about "white privilege." Zuby joins us to discuss how far America has degraded and how insane the modern day has become. Philipp Tanzer, former gay porn star turned Christian, also joins us to talk about how there is redemption no matter what your past may be.
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I can imagine the ugly things that go through your mind and the thoughts.
I wouldn't want to live in your head for one minute.
Very ugly.
Do you go to work like that?
Chad, how insensitive of you to think that I work?
I mean, really, I'm a disabled American and you think I can get up and go to work.
I don't have that privilege.
I want all of you to know that all of you that get up in the morning to an alarm clock and you guys have the privilege to actually get up and take a shower and get in your car and go to work.
Do you have any idea what a privilege that is?
Any idea, really?
And then you're going to sit here and say, I bet you don't even have a job.
Well, of course I don't.
I'm disabled.
And really, and how insensitive of you to point that out.
And you actually, you come here and you, I mean, this is rich.
You actually come to a disabled woman's live feed, and yet you mentioned employment and work.
Now I'm not a betting man, but if I had to put my money on a one bet, I would say that our thoughts were not the ugliest thing about that interaction that we just had right now.
I mean, let's talk about this.
First of all, there was the major shocker.
We found out that was a woman.
So our standards have really lowered.
And also, I found out that I'm so sorry to assume that you should work for yourself, for clown self.
Just because you're disabled doesn't mean you need to look like you're about to rat on some gangsters, Takashi6ix9ine.
I mean, what happened to you after you got out of prison?
This is some bad stuff, but we see this victimhood everywhere where people are complaining that they can't change, they can't help themselves, that the world is just messed up, the system is corrupt, and the only thing I can do is become a fat, disgusting piece of lard and then blame my disability for the reason why I'm unhappy.
Not my obesity, not the fact that I look like I'm a part of a freak show, but of course, it's the fault of everybody else asking, why don't you do something for yourself?
On that note, welcome back to Slightly Offensive, the best worst show on Blaze TV, where we always have that person's hair color confetti in 8K coming down on our faces, the COC.
We have an amazing guest in the studio today, content creator, rapper, visionary, and of course, somewhat of a Twitter genius.
And not to be so rude to the person, like just to tear down their appearance, just saying it's so interesting that people who tend to look like that or be in that position end up placing themselves in the superior position to condemn and to judge us and to tell us that in society, the problem is not with them.
Obviously, you've seen here that we have our diversity coalition because it is Black History Month, which we know is very important that we celebrate it every day.
We are also joined in the studio by the lovely and the beautiful diversity hire, Savannah Hernandez, who's in the studio today with a confetti of color, host of the Rapid Fire podcast, and also our resident reporter.
I went to the gym and I got to watch a lesbian black couple making out.
And then I looked in the kids' section and then I got to watch the Disney channel, you know, just doing all this Black History Month cartoons for the kids.
So I'm just really feeling the Black history this month.
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We're not fully there yet.
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They tend to not fit really well around the thighs.
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I'm actually wearing them right now.
Savannah, can you not confirm that I showed you my waistband?
So speaking of feeling secure, like you said, we are in the situation Zuby where it is fact from fiction has become nearly impossible to derive in so many situations where it's like the difference between the not the B and the Babylon B satire is confusing and to the point to where a fact check and a fact check that needs to be fact checked is indiscernible.
And like, and I don't know about you, but even for someone, you're a highly intellectual person, you're well educated.
you're well respected and even you watch that video and you're like uh, what the hell?
And you know, something that is important to say, especially for being here in the US and a lot of American listeners, is that I often hear people say that the world has gone mad.
And it's not the world, it's the West, especially the Anglosphere right.
It's the West, it's UK Canada Australia, New Zealand, the USA and some Western European countries that have gone off the rails over the past 10 years on so many various issues.
It's not the entire world.
You can go to parts of Asia, the Middle East, South America Africa, and stuff is normal.
A man is still a man, a woman is still a woman.
You know you can distinguish From satire.
And there's something really weird that's been going on.
I want to say, especially in the past seven to eight years, it's really just accelerated.
And sometimes I don't know if we give stuff like this too much attention.
And people like this then create these TikToks and these crazy tweets and all this stuff to get attention because it works and people react and respond to it.
But I think it's important for people to recognize this is not necessarily a global phenomenon.
This is something that's peculiar to our countries and to our societies.
If we can go to, if we can put video two on B-roll for a second here, Savannah, just in the middle, like we've gotten to the point with this, like this inner, this interdimensional goblin person.
That's what Savannah calls it.
It makes absolutely no sense.
But it also comes to the point too, to where you realize this is not just infecting a strange person who doesn't work, but we've seen this movement to even where, like, when I grew up, when I was in school, teachers were, it was considered like a classier profession, meaning it wasn't even just business casual per se.
People dressed very nicely, even in a public school.
But I've seen this sort of degradation, this level of standards lower to where people wonder why they're unhappy.
People wonder why they have no purpose in life.
And I think part of that's because they don't hold themselves to any standards.
They don't believe there's a net necessity for a health standard, for a psychological standard, shoot, even a spiritual standard.
Like I'll admit that there are days, there are weeks where I'm like, oh, crap, like I'm pretty far from God.
I haven't been reading my Bible.
I've not been praying.
I got to go back.
I got to like fast.
I got to pray.
I got to snap back into this.
There's a standard.
And I started noticing this, that even from a young age, there's nobody to look up to in our society anymore to know what a standard of professionalism is.
If we can play video number four, Savannah, I want to show you.
I'm really shocked at what public schools are now allowing for the dress code for teachers of our impressionable students.
Let's watch that.
So this says, would you do a video of the outfits that you were while you were teaching?
I went to an international school, though, but even in an international, more liberal school, this would not have flown.
And it's so interesting what you say about standards because that's totally correct.
We've had people trying to obliterate standards for the past couple decades.
And I can understand where it stems from because in anything, there are always two ways you can look at something, right?
You can look at it internally or you can look at it externally.
You can try to change yourself or you can try to change the world and everybody around you.
And despite it being much easier to change and control yourself and your actions and your behavior, a lot of people, especially those who have this more victimhood type mentality, they're always trying to shift the entire world.
They want to blow up the standards, change the entire system, control everybody around them, rather than just taking that personal responsibility and ownership and controlling their own behavior.
And it leads to a lot of misery, leads to a lot of lack of success, leads to a lot of frustration and anger, even projected onto other people.
And that seems to be what's going on.
Instead of people saying, hey, that's the standard, let me at least strive towards it.
Like we always fall, we all fall short on various things.
There is something good that we should strive for in all these different avenues.
But there are people out there who want to just obliterate the standards.
So instead of themselves raising up, they just say, no, that standard is incorrect.
The problem is with you.
The problem is with society.
If you don't accept me, you know, someone could be 300 pounds, morbidly obese.
And rather than them saying, you know what, I should lose weight.
I should control what I'm eating.
I should do some exercise.
And then I can become healthier, objectively healthier, more attractive, better looking, have more energy, all of that.
They say, no, the problem was with society.
They're fat shaming.
They have false beauty standards that you want to change the whole beauty standards of society and change what men and women are attracted to and change what is considered healthy and try to delude everyone rather than you just taking that ownership.
And I think maybe we need to be a little bit more firm with, we need to be a little bit more firm with people who are promoting this stuff because it's important to listen to all kinds of different ideas.
And of course, everyone has freedom of speech and all that.
But I think in the West, people have just become so soft on everything where it's like, it's considered more wrong to rebuke that kind of idea and being judgmental.
That's worse than the thing that you're judging, right?
At no cost are we supposed to judge anything.
We're not supposed to condemn anything.
We're not supposed to say anything is better than anything.
You're supposed to wholeheartedly accept, embrace, and promote everything.
And I don't disagree with that.
You can listen to all different opinions, but then you can say, no, okay, this is wrong because of this, or that is better than that, objectively, because of XYZ.
Well, yeah, and that's what you said with this changing of standards.
I find it to be, I would feel quite disrespected because I know, because you're not even American, but you know that Americans have the most interesting and strange relation with race.
It is so bizarre.
I feel like there's no other country that has a stranger relation because even this new BLM movement that kind of spread a little bit to the UK, a little bit to Australia and Canada still originated here.
Pretty much anything super epic and anything super bullshit probably came from this country at this point.
It's like we produce the best music and the worst music, right?
It's like, it's like this sweet paradoxical balance.
But nothing is more, I guess, exemplary of what we're talking about than this class from Frank Lindst Yoga, which was offering pricing for our classes, Franklin Street Yoga Pricing, which is $18 with the assumption, right?
I love how this, what's funny, is that it's the assumption that white people are doing yoga because the price is $18.
So they're already assuming like the natural, the natural mating call of a new age white woman.
They've got to get the Lululemons, right?
That promote LGBT rights, but probably use some sort of like indentured slave labor in another country to some extent.
And then they pay $18 and maybe a guy pays $18 just to watch them bend and do what they want to do.
They feel like they're better than you.
They're sweating.
And then it says $11 for the BIPOCs, the BIPOC, the buyer, isn't that Black Indigenous People of Color is what that stands for.
And so instead of like, you know, believing that somebody who's black or indigenous, which I reject the Indigenous phrase already because there's no such thing as an indigenous person to really any land, technically, whoever's conquered it at the time or whoever runs and rules it technically is owns it and runs it.
That's just been a fall of history.
However, the black indigenous people of color thing is like they're $11, basically saying, which is about like a third cheaper, is that we don't believe y'all can pay the same price, that you guys cannot work the same.
You cannot earn the same.
You cannot have the same net worth or value.
And so instead of encouraging you to rise up, we're going to set the standard lower for you, which I have found to be the most disrespectful thing personally as a BIPOC myself.
No, but I just meant like, I just think, you know, it's somewhat interesting that that's what we've come to in terms of how do you solve, which I also think is a largely fabricated racial disparities, kind of like the gender disparities.
You can usually explain why.
We're going to then just charge people less, which is unfair to both groups.
And it's like, it's like, how could you function in a society where, depending on who lives there, the standards are different, yet you say we're all the same?
And I know that we can sometimes laugh at this stuff, but like ultimately, because I love casual racist humor, and I think I do.
I genuinely do.
Only because you're like, I think almost like when you can't do something, it pushes you more and more to want to talk about it.
It's the same reason why where they like try to solve anti-Semitism or like solve, you know, some sort of criticism of the Jewish people.
And then they force all these people who are critical of Jews into like these corners of the web to where they end up in these echo chambers and they end up feeding each other.
And they actually end up exasperating the problem.
Then they make alt troll accounts and then they go on to every sort of, you know, internet site and they just keep spamming this stuff.
And then they get deleted and they essentially make a problem out of something that didn't need to be because you start telling a bunch of young kids, here's something you can't do or you can't talk about.
It actually, it actually backfires, right?
It's a little bit like the war on drugs.
It's like, it's the understanding, I get where you're going, but the execution ends up creating a different kind of or a bigger problem.
And that's what I see with this stuff too.
It's like you actually are creating more problems than you're helping.
And this is the kind of stuff I find like what that ticket pricing thing, right?
That despair.
That's the kind of thing that I find actually offensive.
Like I'm quite hard to offend and I'm not offended by like little jokes or whatever people trying, but stuff like this, because this sends a really deep message.
Like this, this is actually quite a deep thing.
It might look kind of silly, but if you really think about the thinking behind this, this is actual, I've often said that the woke stuff is left-wing white supremacy because it is.
If you see the way they treat race, the way they talk about people of color, BIPOC, POC, and the way they talk about white, it's all under this assumption that white people are superior.
All the thing, even the term POC, it just means non-white.
BIPOC.
It means non-white.
The only groups who it's literally, it's KKK language, right?
Why do you need to separate all of humanity into white and not white?
That's why they're lowering standards for non-white children to go to school or to university.
They're doing all of this weird stuff under this guise of we are addressing the issue.
And it's like you are perpetuating institutional and systemic racism by proper definition.
You are enforcing racist policies.
If I'm running an event and I have different, I have the Gentile ticket price and I have the Jewish ticket price, regardless of which one is higher or lower, like WTF.
What do you, what?
That's insane.
This is the ticket price for black people.
This is the ticket price for non-black people.
Like, that's so obviously racist.
Like, obviously.
So it blows my mind that people even can do this sort of thing.
And not everybody immediately sees that as like, yo, what the heck?
Well, it's a distraction too from the class issue because, you know, that's the assumption that all black people are just poor is another race, another racist assumption.
So it is interesting, though.
And that's why I find that most of these discussions on race are to get us off the class issue.
Because it's not like, oh, we have fixated pricing here, which, by the way, before people that disagree with fixed pricing based off of income, you actually probably do agree with it to some extent.
Meaning, people always do this for like vet, like for active duty military, the assumption that they're not making as much money, but they're giving a sacrifice for the country.
So we'll respect them, give them a discount for their sacrifice.
Number two, people have student pricing, right?
Or like even like young adult pricing at gyms.
They'll have like under 21.
18 to 21 is like $50 off a month or whatever.
Meaning, we do understand there are brackets.
There are especially, you know, you're 18 to 21.
How much money on average would you have unless your parents, you know, you had daddy's money?
So, I mean, there is that understanding that, and there's also like, you know, even grants or things where like, you know, a company like YMCA will take donations to be able to help people who make low income to be able to subsidize.
There's nothing wrong with that stuff.
It's private people working on that.
But the assumption that you should be treated differently, this comes down to the fact too, that when you go, it doesn't stop at skin color.
It's not just arbitrary.
It goes on to like this idea of us and the other and creating these two groups has been taken to the point of such absurdity that it's even gone into eating meat.
And I, this, this status, Savannah, did you put this in here with any meat racist and misogynist?
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And that's the absurdity of what we've gotten into is like, okay, let's start from the beginning of that, you know, this idea that the corpse might not have chosen you.
There's like this misogyny that I don't, I don't, maybe I'm getting this wrong, but like men eat more meat than women or something.
And it's like a misogynist thing.
And somehow like, cause if you don't eat meat, then you're a soy boy, which is the construct of like eating meat is overtly masculine, which is actually a true, very objectively true statement.
Preparing meat can also be masculine as well, like in certain ways.
Like in my house, my wife never cooks the red meat.
I always cook the red meat and she cooks the non-red meat.
That's just an agreement we make.
And so it's like, it's an understanding.
I mean, some women do cook good steaks, but I still think men can always cook better than women in the end, especially with grilling.
Long story short, I also think we enjoy it.
I don't think women enjoy the grilling, the simple nature stuff.
But the red meat on the grill, like when we're just hanging out, they cook out of necessity, but in the Western countries, we love just grilling grilling.
It's just like, it's so strange, though, to me, too.
Like, that's why I mean, like, how it's racism.
Like, and you're right.
And that's what I was saying.
Women do prepare meat very well.
And sometimes they handle meat very well, both their hands and on the grill.
And that's very good.
But I will say, on top of that, is that like this idea, though, of them saying that meat is racist, part of the attack on this is that men, it's a great holistic protein source in order to get strong.
Someone's getting swollen here and vaccinated, and then there's the newest member of the vaccinated community, Savannah Hernandez, getting so swole.
So, what I think it is with women specifically is that we're very emotional creatures, and our entire society has weaponized racism very well against white women.
So, they feel very bad about their skin tone, about eating meat, about all of these fake constructs that society pushes in on them, which is why they're the ones who are the biggest apologists for this.
That's why they're the ones that are like, oh, we're going to give you yoga classes at a discount because you're brown and we feel bad because we've gotten to profit off of our white privilege.
So, just to build on your point there, I think that the reason why they're like that is because women have the propaganda has been weaponized so brilliantly against them.
And in saying that, though, like, I want to say this, like with the insanity and what's going on, this idea of putting everyone to class, right?
Meat eaters can't just enjoy meat.
They're misogynistic.
They're racist.
It's always got to be this system of breaking people apart into an in-group and an out-group.
And the weird thing is, though, is that life didn't always used to be like this.
In fact, there was a time when the binary of gender, I even hate using these words, you know, when four years ago on this, when the show started, those were words we were introducing to people.
And Savannah, I would even say as early as 2019, some of this stuff, like neurogenders and demi-queers and things, were things we were introducing to our audience, and they were like shocked this was real.
And now these have become literally a part of the academia, like a part of the institutionalized part of our countries.
And I don't know if that shocked you how quickly we've deteriorated down into this.
No, but for real, I think I think a big problem in the West is that there's this idea that every individual and every idea needs to be treated with the same degree of seriousness and everything needs to be like really thought through.
And like, some stuff is just dumb.
It's stupid.
Like all this claptrap she just said, stupid.
Laugh at it, mock it, like even getting into some deep intellectual debate and trying to unpack her ideas.
Like, no, you, you just said a whole bunch of tribe.
The notion that the notion that a man can just, you know, throw on a dress and become a woman is laughable, right?
The fact that we're even entertaining this idea so much.
Go around Africa and promote some of these ideas.
Just go around to anyone, villagers, people in the city.
That would be like, go away.
Like, what's wrong with you?
Like, you're an idiot.
They won't even entertain the idea because it's so absurd.
I'd love her to take that idea and go around to the Middle East and Africa and parts of South America and promote that.
Like here, people will listen and, you know, they'll still clap and they'll be like, hmm, some interesting idea.
I'm like, no, that was just a bunch of clap chop.
That was a bunch of nonsense.
There was nothing there that is worth delving deep into or that is really useful or whatever.
And she should have the right to speak and to explain all of her nonsense.
But we also, I think, by giving it, by treating it seriously, we're giving some of these ideas too much credibility.
You know, this, and this is how we've ended up in this madness, especially with some of the gender ideology stuff, where people are like, yeah, you know, like, literally, 10 years ago, sex and gender meant the same thing and nobody debated it.
Synonyms.
Sex, gender, cool, same thing.
Right?
Sex can have some more meanings because it can also refer to intercourse, et cetera.
But now people are like, okay, maybe, yeah, sex and gender are different things.
So once, because once somebody accepts that, then that's how the ideology can take root.
If you accept that sex and gender are totally different, separate concepts, like you're, you're, you're on your road to indoctrination now.
Because now, once you accept that parsing out, then someone can say, oh, okay, well, now a man is different.
And man is now separate from male.
Female is separate from woman.
And this is the trick they do, right?
So they say, oh, no, you're referring to female.
You're talking about sex.
I'm talking about a woman.
That's a different concept.
That's a social construct.
And then they can do like their language manipulation and their magic to get people to believe whatever the heck they want.
And suddenly you've got men, men inverted commas, menstruating and getting pregnant and being able to compete in female sports because it's women's sports.
And once you accept some of the premises, then they've got you.
So, man, if you go to my screen here, NPR, which is partially government-funded, almost fully, this is similar to our BBC.
I don't know if you know that.
But, you know, they put out really, really good journalism, journalism.
I'm really proud to say.
You know, I actually kind of got my career started on NPR, actually.
So thank you.
Shout out to NPR LA for talking to me about when I got put into a corner as the only straight white male at my work and everyone had to explain how I was the oppressor and they were the oppressed.
This is many years ago before this was really well known and I went public with it to all you racist Islamic supremacists and female supremacists.
You also thanks for getting me out of teaching.
That would have been a doozy.
NPR says some white people may choose the yellow butt plug because it feels neutral.
But some academics argue out that the superior butt plug, no, I'm just kidding, the white butt plug, that's what they're trying to say, right?
So this is the, this is again where they're going, the superior thumb, okay?
And I know, guys, my thumb's still jacked up, but this is what they're saying.
You, some say that if you opt out of the white one, it signals a lack of awareness about white privilege, akin to society associating whiteness with being raceless, meaning it's like, if you don't accept that the uniqueness of being white and see the privilege that comes out of that, and that, you know, again, that you're superior, that there's something white supremacist concept.
Yeah, you're superior.
Your butt plug is the most secure, secure, and superior by choosing the yellow.
Now, maybe that's because they, because of stop Asian hate, they don't want us choosing the yellow one.
I don't know.
That might be the Chinaman.
But I will just say that it's like the yellow was literally meant for no other reason, I think, than to prevent this.
Like, I don't even see why we needed the color emojis.
It was like, hey, nobody's a yellow guy.
Okay.
Nobody's a yellow guy.
So let's literally take this color that nobody is and create a generic expression with facial features and facial expressions that everybody does, like this or like this or just something.
And instead, we had to turn it not only into just like, there's like a white and a black, it's like there's a black, black, a mixed black, a Hispanic, a mixed white Hispanic, and then a white person and then Kongmen Lee.
So I'm going to say, so some white people are going to choose the non-white thumb because they just want to be neutral.
But some academics argue that if you opt out of your white identity and your white thumb, it signals a lack of awareness about your superiority of your white skin, akin to a society associating whiteness with being racist, meaning you can't escape the superiority of your white skin.
Yeah, like whenever I read this, this woke stuff, it literally reads the exact same as some actual white supremacist stuff from 100 years ago.
It was the same thing when they had that stuff with the Smithsonian.
Do you remember where they had like things like belief in the scientific method, keeping on time, personal responsibility, logic, all of these things being white, being symbols of whiteness, right?
Being on basically everything that makes an individual or success or a society successful, all these things were attributed to whiteness.
I was reading all of this.
I was like, this literally could have been written by a full-blown white supremacist.
Like they agree with these ideas.
They agree that these things that make individuals and society successful are specific to white European people.
Like, so it's impossible to determine when you get these like hyper-woke, race-obsessed people or organizations, and I read what they're saying or I listen to what they're saying.
It is identical.
It's indistinguishable from true white supremacist rhetoric.
And I do not know if they're aware of that.
I doubt it because they lack awareness.
But that's the thing I find most, I find most mind-blowing about it all.
I'm just reading it and I'm like, dude, this is a huge regressive step backwards.
Yeah, you know, and I was going to say this, though, like I was saying, that we can see people can change because I want to watch two videos.
Joe Biden actually, you know, recently had switched his stance on gay marriage.
And I want to remind you of this.
Let's go and let's watch this with Joe Biden just a few years ago was saying about this gender stuff before we've completely switched into all this insanity and the racism.
Things used to be a little bit normal in this country in some ways.
Let's go ahead and let's watch this.
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I can't believe the American people can't see through this.
We already have a law, the Defensive Marriage Act, where we've all voted, not where I've voted and others said, look, marriage is between a man and a woman, and states must respect that.
In fact, Joe Biden used to be very much more aligned with my political views than he is.
Like people always say like, you're extreme.
It's like, actually, in some ways, when I look at Democrats back in the 90s, I'm like and early 2000s, I'm like, I don't say this shamefully, like maybe I would have been a Democrat.
Like, I don't know.
I just, because there was a little bit of a difference in the parties.
I think people often forget that, how quickly things can change.
I mean, I remember, I very, very clearly remember the 2008 election when Obama got elected.
And it's so interesting to even watch some of his speeches and stuff from back then because he sounds like a modern day Republican, whether he's talking about that aforementioned issue or he's talking about immigration and border policy or he's talking about certain things to do with the family.
He just sounds like a Republican.
And it's amazing that in under 15 years, there has been such a strong shift.
Now, regardless of someone's individual position on something like gay marriage, you know, that's a whole other conversation.
But what is undeniable is just the speed at which something can change in society and go from fringe to mainstream.
Not just that, but for the former mainstream to become unthinkable or unsayable is pretty bonkers.
And I guess depending on the issue and someone's feeling on the issue, they may think that's good or bad or, you know, case-by-case basis.
You know, it's good that people are no longer advocating slavery.
I see people are going back to new forms of segregation.
But it's interesting.
It's interesting.
And it also shows the way that language, the way that language changes.
Because again, regardless of someone's position on, say, this particular issue, the word marriage was redefined.
It was redefined intentionally to go from, you know, the definition of marriage historically, all throughout most human history was between a man and a woman.
And so the definition was changed and expanded in order for this political agenda to go through.
Now, someone may think that that's fair and that's a good thing.
I'm not here to judge on either side of it, but that's what happens.
So now the majority of people in the world, I believe, are now anti-vaxxers by the dictionary definition.
Even if you've taken every vaccine under the sun and you're very pro-vaccine, whatever, if you don't think other people should be forced to take it, you don't think it should be mandatory, by dictionary definition, you're now an anti-vaxxer.
And that's very Orwellian.
It's very disturbing.
And maybe the most disturbing part of it is that people don't realize when it's happening because most people are not following these things as closely as we are.
And before we come back to that, guys, we're going to talk to someone named Philip Tanzer, who was a gay porn star.
And he turned to Christ in his sort of changed his entire life around.
He's now in a straight relationship and is here to talk to us about, you know, that struggle with what sort of made him become gay, how he lived as a gay porn star, what the lifestyle was like.
It's not graphic.
It's fine for anyone probably 13 and older.
I usually say the show is good for 13 and older.
And sort of like what that's like, you know, finding out that he can live a straight lifestyle.
He can honor God.
And then the struggle that he has with same-sex attraction and how do you live with that as an individual?
It's a great story.
And since this is the day of celebrating people from around the world, he's also in the United Kingdom.
So we had a film it at a previous time.
But anyway, we want to welcome to slightly offensive Philip Tanzer, previous gay porn star, turned Christian in a straight relationship.
I'm sure this is not the first time you had COC in your face, which we won't get too much into.
I guess it's spelled a little different.
You're not clearly not ashamed of your life story or anything.
You're not embarrassed.
You're here.
You're here to talk about it.
So let's just jump right into your life.
Obviously, being a former gay porn star before the porn, there is some insinuation that you identified as being gay.
Can you talk to me a little bit about your life story when you realized or thought that you were gay and coming out about that and when you sort of embraced that identity?
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Okay.
I would say that I always felt same-sex attracted.
And I would think that it has to do with, let's say, not childhood trauma, but a lack of strong father figures in my childhood.
My father lived in the family, well, was with me when I grew up, but he wasn't the father that I needed in some ways.
I think I could have done with a more masculine, stronger father figure, more involved in many ways.
When I was a teenager, I identified as asexual with a tendency towards men.
So the whole non-binary or like weird categories things, I already did that 25 years ago.
But when I identified it as asexual with a tendency towards men, society, not the LGBT community, but wider German society, pushed me towards saying, oh, so you're gay and you have to be proud of being gay.
And after a while, I just gave up and I started identifying as gay.
I had sex with men.
It didn't feel right, but it felt, let's say, hot.
But up until the, let's say, when I was 27, I barely had any sex.
And then I do, I started doing porn pretty much from doing no sex to doing porn.
So obviously, you know, there are those elements we've talked about on the show where I think it's quite complex of why people have same-sex attraction.
I think besides it being, people say it's unnatural.
I would say almost opposite, as in like it's natural, meaning it's natural to the nature of a sinful human being, of somebody who would have something, some air or something that is wrong with them.
And when I say it's natural, I don't mean that it's good.
I don't mean that just because, you know, a lion mauling us and ripping our limbs off in the middle of a Sahara, or not Sahara, but in the middle of a savannah, might be a natural occurrence.
It's not good and it wants to be avoided.
So there is a difference in that.
And so you said there was a bit of this confusion and you felt like you had society sort of pushing you to identify as being gay.
What did that look like?
What do you mean by society was sort of influencing your sexuality?
unidentified
Well, people wanted to put a label on me.
And already 20, 27 years ago, around that time in Germany, there was a huge push towards gay pride.
And people just automatically assumed that the reason why I wouldn't call myself gay was because I didn't feel comfortable, which wasn't the case.
I just felt that I needed time and I wanted to understand where this same-sex attraction came from and if it was the right path for me or not.
And society, sorry, that was my dog.
Oh, I had a dog design for you.
Sorry about that.
And overall, there is this strong push, and I think it's getting younger and younger for people to identify as something.
And nowadays, it's identifying as trans, identifying as non-straight, because it gives you brownie points.
And I find that incredibly dangerous.
Let children and young people be just people and let them experiencing themselves with guidance.
I still have a same-sex attraction, and I don't try to get rid of that.
But I expanded my view, so to speak, and I realized that I could have wonderful, intimate relations with women.
And I'm currently in a happy relationship and we want to start a family.
Tell me about how you got into porn from being someone who wasn't having sex to doing this as a career.
And what sort of life was like both emotionally, spiritually, and professionally working in the gay porn industry?
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Like I would say, pretty much everybody or almost everybody, I did it because I needed money.
And I know that a couple of days ago, you had a female ex-porn actress who now does OnlyFans.
And I disagreed with a lot of her views.
I think that it's usually not a real choice.
You feel like you have to do it.
There are very few exceptions.
And I decided to do porn.
This is going to sound weird, but I actually wanted to bring something positive into the porn industry as well.
Because when I saw porn, it was always completely heartless and there was no connection.
And I thought maybe I could bring something positive into the business, which is almost impossible because it's such a huge business and they want to make money, obviously.
And cuddly, lovely sex doesn't really sell that well.
Now, being in the porn industry, and I'm sorry that I have to say that, but it was actually a positive experience, at least behind the scenes.
I was working in San Francisco, and all the people that I was working with were great people that really cared about me.
And there was a strong emphasis on keeping me safe in many ways.
But at the same time, a lot of actors, porn actors, they are drug addicts or become drug addicts.
Almost all of them take steroids.
And on top of the porn industry, which is already harmful, I think the even more harmful bit is that a lot of them go into escort services.
So, yeah, having sex with customers.
And I think that's even more harmful than the porn industry.
Why do you say that?
Because in the porn industry, the sex that you have is very cold.
It's in some ways, obviously, you know, MTV jackass.
And to me, it felt often like jackass.
You just do something weird and funny with your body.
And it's easy to step out of that because there is the light crew and the person who gives you something to drink.
And then they say stop, and then they say start again.
And you know why you're there.
You're there to create a product.
I'm not trying to defend it at all, but when you work as an escort, and I thought I had to do that for a couple of days and then I immediately stopped because it burnt my soul immediately.
You are being treated like a piece of meat and you feed people's needs that are already in a pretty dark place sometimes and they take you into a dark place with them.
And so, you know, you're in the middle of all this.
I appreciate the honesty, though, too, because I really hate when people just try to talk about, oh, yeah, this was so bad and I left, as if God can't also rescue you out of things that appear good or positive, meaning not everything that is wrong in the world, not everything that God expresses is wrong, feels necessarily wrong, or the experience is somehow depressing.
But in the end, I think the reason why a lot of people are on anti-anxiety, a lot of antidepressants, is because when we're not living in the design that God designed for us, we're not living the way we should, we feel a sense of discomfort, a sense of displacement.
And I think that's what we're seeing in mass in society.
So you went through this, you said about 27 to 32.
Talk to me about how you went about getting out of the porn or retiring from the gay porn industry and then ended up somehow, from what I read, renouncing your homosexuality identity as being gay.
And then you ended up in a straight relationship.
I mean, this sounds, the world would say this doesn't happen.
This is crazy.
How could this happen?
So I'm curious.
I'd love to know what was that adventure and that timeline?
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I can obviously only talk about my own experience.
And I think I was always protected.
So even though I lived a sinful life, I was always very close to God, or God was always very close to me.
So I always was protected.
I never took drugs.
I always did protected sex, used condoms.
So, and I would say in many ways, my heart and my soul were protected as well due to my faith.
At one point, I could see, well, first of all, porn was not a long-term solution for me.
And I spent very little time in porn, even when I was a very famous porn star.
I lived in Germany in a small garden house with my dog next to the forest.
That was my life.
And then I would fly over to America for a couple of weeks each year, produce some of these scenes, make money, and then I would go back to a very, very normal and quiet life.
And that really protected me.
The porn industry, when I entered, it was okay.
There were positive aspects, as in people still cared about each other.
But the pressure to free online porn became so great on the porn industry that they couldn't care as much about their models anymore.
They had to start doing barebacks, so unprotected sex, which was for me never an option.
And for me, it was also the time just to leave and move on and do other things.
It didn't feel right for me.
And I felt like this is the right time to protect myself and to leave.
At the same time, or before I left, I realized, well, I could never see myself in a relationship with a man.
I tried it, but I was like, I'm a man myself.
Having in a relationship with a man is just the same of me.
And I was looking for something that could actually complement my soul.
And so at the age of 32, I thought, I think I should try to open myself again for women, which was really difficult because do you just go into a bar and say, hey, I'm gay, but I want to have sex with a woman again.
That feels awful.
And just diving into a relationship with a woman, if you don't even know if you can enjoy heterosexual relationships, is also not the right way.
And in the end, I ended up actually going to a prostitute.
I can't say that I'm proud of it, but at the same time, it's very hard.
It's very hard if you haven't had experiences with women for such a long time to see if you could actually be happy with a woman.
And I realized I could.
And very shortly after that, I met a wonderful woman who I had a great relationship with.
And so the journey, though, is kind of touching briefly.
Where do you say you've come from there?
From someone from a prostitute to getting a relationship, where's your mindset now about the process?
Which I think the church is very dishonest with people about healing sexually or about finding your identity in Christ.
I think they really kind of make it this like product.
Like it's just like one day you're baptized and then you're healed and then you're gone.
But you said even today, you still have the same sex attraction.
You still have that part of you.
So where are you at right now?
Because I believe life is an ongoing development.
Like who is Philip Tanzer now and where is your heart and your mind on the issue?
And where do you want to see yourself in 10 years?
unidentified
I think that any kind of attraction or addiction is a little bit like alcoholism.
You will never be completely freed of it.
The demon will always be there.
And to be honest, what I don't like about the church is that they make such a huge differentiation between a homosexual, promiscuous lifestyle and straight promiscuous lifestyle.
And I think a little less of the demonizing homosexuality and a little bit more of the demonizing all sin would be positive for the church.
And overall, the church should be stricter again, anyways.
Where I am right now, I have a wonderful girlfriend and we are trying to start a family.
There is a reason why we are not married yet.
That is too long and not too personal, but too long to get into.
But we want to start a family and get married.
And in a couple of years, I hope I see myself with three or four or five wonderful kids that I can raise with my wife.
And the same-sex attraction, to be honest, is no problem for me at all.
It's the same as with straight people.
You're straight, you're married.
That doesn't mean you don't find women attractive anymore, but you made a conscious decision to just focus on this one woman that you love.
And I do the same thing.
And to be honest, I haven't had intimacy with man for, I think, something like two years, and I don't miss it at all.
I have that attraction, but I don't want to live it.
So, in closing, you know, people today honestly have a really hard time with this subject because I think there's really two sides of the argument here.
There's one side that's telling you literally embrace every kink, every weirdness, every trauma, and basically like become this sort of fluid sexual person that embraces who whatever, whatever sinful desire you have, which is why like in the last episode, we watched some things like someone went from being gay to queer to trans to not, you know, like basically they just keep embracing whatever next wind of doctrine kind of like you know shakes and rattles their ship.
But people have you know a lot of struggle with the same sex attraction because on the other side, a lot of people, you know, on the very fundamentalist, trad, right-wing religiosity can be very condemning rather than offering redemption or an understanding.
So for anybody watching this show that, you know, maybe they're struggling with same-sex attraction, maybe they're in the middle of it.
They identify, totally have embraced the identity or they have friends, family that are, you know, grappling with this, both religious and non-religious.
What's your advice to those people about understanding and their approach to sexuality like that?
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I think my biggest advice is love.
Love yourself, not as in love your sin, but love yourself and take your time.
Don't force yourself into a heterosexual relationship if you're not ready yet.
Reduce your sinful behavior and move and take yourself out of the things that tempt you.
I think that's a very important thing.
And for those who want to help other people and those who judge others with sinful lifestyles, use love.
Yes, you have to call out the sin.
And I think that's absolutely good and right.
And the church actually doesn't do enough of that.
But if we don't do it with love, compassion, and understanding and real deep care for the sinner, then we will just push them deeper into their despair, which just will just push them deeper into the sin.
So reaching out, reaching your hand out and actually helping and understanding and understanding, then people need time to let go of sin.
Do it the same way you would do it with an alcoholic or any other addict.
Yeah, I know we could probably talk a lot more about this, but I really appreciate this.
If you want to know more about Philip, if you want to follow his life, you want to understand his ideas and somebody who's going through this, or if you want to connect with him, I don't know if his DMs are open, but I'm sure there's some way to professionally contact him.
If there's ever inquiries for shows or whatever, Philip, where could people find you online?
What's the best place they can access your profiles?
unidentified
Well, you can mostly find me on Twitter under Philip Tanzer1.
I used to have a lot of followers, but Twitter cleansed me because I supported President Trump.
So that's where you can find me.
And you can also Google my name on YouTube.
I did interviews with Benjamin Boyce, who talked with me a lot about same-sex attraction and how I changed my lifestyle.
So there's a, I think, two-hour conversation with Benjamin Boyce.
And may God continue to help you on the journey of your life to continue to make peace with both your identity, who you are, where you came from, where you want to be.
And we wish that you will one day have many offspring and can just continue to be a testimony, not to this once saved, always saved.
I was once bad and now I'm clean, but the constant renewing of the mind that God brings us daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly as we need it consistently.
That was a really great interview from Philip Tanzer.
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