Portland has fallen...again. The Portland Police Rapid Response Team that prevents Antifa vandalism and attacks has disbanded. Andy Ngo joins in studio to discuss the rapid decline of the city while also detailing his thoughts on Tim Pool’s critical tweets regarding the brutal assault he endured a few weeks ago while covering Antifa. YouTuber Eric July represents an anarcho-capitalist perspective to bring balance.
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| Black block terrorists are free to roam the streets as it is breaking news from post-millennial comes out. | |
| Portland police riot squad, not to be confused with the journalist riot squad, resigns following an indictment of officer. | |
| This is a huge story considering the most recent and violent attack of Andy No. | |
| And to talk about the police, Portland, the collapse of American cities and the madness of it all, I have two amazing guests with some conflicting viewpoints that I'm really excited to introduce. | |
| We have Andy No, the author of the New York Times best-selling unmasked, as well as a journalist and a insane exposer of all things far left. | |
| You keep people accountable, Andy. | |
| Welcome back to the show. | |
| Thank you, Elijah. | |
| We're very happy to have you here. | |
| I'm glad to see you in One Piece, and I'm glad to see you smiling. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Awesome. | |
| We also have Eric July, young Rippa, YouTuber, musician, rapper, everything that you want to know, anarcho-capitalist, which we'll find out later. | |
| Welcome back. | |
| Hey, man, appreciate you having me, as always. | |
| We are excited. | |
| So obviously, this is an insane thing. | |
| If you can go to my screen here, if you guys were following, I'm sure Eric, you know this. | |
| Andy, you definitely know this. | |
| This had come out a little while ago that author Andy No, who exposed Antifa says that he was beaten by a masked mob. | |
| In case you're not familiar, an author who recently published the book exposing Antifa said he was beaten and chased by the left-wing militant group while covering ongoing protests in Portland, Oregon. | |
| Quote, Antifa tried to kill me. | |
| The big word again, he tweeted late Wednesday, yet he's not dead and he's here. | |
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| So let's just jump right into this. | |
| Andy, you said that they tried to kill you, they, Antifa, but you're alive. | |
| How are you doing? | |
| Just in general? | |
| Um, it's been a difficult number of weeks since the assault on the 28th of May. | |
| Psychologically, I think this has been a more difficult injury than the one that I had two years ago that many people know about that resulted in the brain hemorrhage. | |
| Even though the physical injury is not as severe this time, the emotional and psychological impact of kind of reliving the fact that they were so close to killing me, really, because I was at one point pinned on the ground and the whole mob, one was holding me down and the mob behind them was pursuing. | |
| And I knew that if they got their hands on me, they would carry out what they've been threatening and promising to do for the past two years as they write around Portland and graffiti, kill Edino, murder Edino. | |
| It's that I got out with the injuries that I did actually means that I'm lucky. | |
| So and I'm not giving up. | |
| I think a lot of the criticism that I got from people who, broadly speaking, on my side, our side, criticized me for going out there, saying, why would you go out to a situation that you know was dangerous like that? | |
| You're referencing Tim Poole or others as well. | |
| Tim Poole and others. | |
| Yes, I'm trying to be diplomatic. | |
| And I have not responded to it really directly, but I will now. | |
| I think Portland, as autonomous as it wants to be perceived as, is in the United States of America and as the child of parents who fled communist tyranny. | |
| As an American citizen, I absolutely refuse to accept that on American soil, journalists and press can be assaulted and intimidated and harassed with impunity. | |
| And I never gave into the politics of tyranny and terrorism from Antifa from two years ago. | |
| I continued. | |
| And the fruits of that labor is the book Unmatched, which has been, I think, one of the largest efforts at informing the public about the truth about Antifa. | |
| And so, yes, it's dangerous, but that's also why we have war correspondents that go into actual war zones and risk life and limb. | |
| And that's how we know what we do about conflict zones. | |
| And the response from the press should not be to demonize journalists who take that risk. | |
| And so what was disappointing, though not surprising, was just seeing the entire establishment, elite media class, not stand in solidarity with me. | |
| In fact, blaming me and saying that I wasn't a journalist anyways and somehow implying that I was deserving of the assault and everything that's happened. | |
| But I've been through this meat grinder before. | |
| It happened two years ago. | |
| I've been through all the hit pieces and smears and all that in character assassinations. | |
| So, you know, I would be lying if I said none of this affected me, that I can just brush it off my shoulder and move on. | |
| It's hard. | |
| It's hard to see when you Google my name or go on my Wikipedia and it presents somebody that I don't recognize. | |
| So, But nonetheless, I continue forward and I really appreciate that I have the opportunity to speak to you today and that I am fortunate that I can speak because I was so close to being permanently silenced a few weeks ago. | |
| Yeah, and we are really grateful that you're here. | |
| And Eric, this is an interesting thing. | |
| I mean, just a quick take. | |
| What was your take on that? | |
| I'm sure you're aware of the Andy No incident that happened and Tim Poole and stuff. | |
| I mean, he's here and you've never been known to hold back even in front of people. | |
| What are your thoughts on that? | |
| I mean, with what Tim said and with what Andy did? | |
| Right. | |
| I saw what Tim said and saw what other people have said. | |
| And I say this is a guy that obviously I've been on Tim's show. | |
| I have a great relationship with those guys. | |
| I love Tim, yeah. | |
| Right. | |
| But it's the same approach. | |
| And I can't be a hypocrite on this because I talk about this stuff with, for example, people that are resisting, let's say, a police officer when they've done nothing wrong. | |
| Right. | |
| And I would never jump to demonize someone for avoiding an act of aggression because that's their right. | |
| Their right is not to be aggressed upon, right? | |
| Like that, that's that's what the actual right is. | |
| So we can sit here and talk about risk assessment all day long and say, well, maybe you should not do that or whether you're analyzing a particular situation and you're saying, I, you know, you maybe shouldn't have put yourself in that situation. | |
| That's one position and that's one argument to make. | |
| But that doesn't make sense if we're talking about actual principle because if Andy is just going to cover these guys and who it is that they are, the aggression is upon them, right? | |
| So that's the focus. | |
| And to me, that's where the book, of course, there may can be some sort of larger conversation, not larger conversation, but another conversation on the side to be had. | |
| Like, okay, is this a risk worth assessing? | |
| Now, everybody does something, no matter who it is that you are, in which that's you may not get out on the other side of it. | |
| It doesn't matter if you're playing sports. | |
| It doesn't matter what it is. | |
| COVID for that matter. | |
| But to act as if someone is in the wrong, or rather, they're making, let's say, even an ill-advised position and focusing so much on that, completely losing sight on the fact that, well, people did not have the right to use aggression upon Andy, yet they did it, right? | |
| That's the only focus. | |
| That's the only story here, right? | |
| You don't have a right to be, the only right that you do have, obviously, is to not be aggressed upon. | |
| So I've always thought that that conversation was weird because I did see that happening where everybody was, you know, people that are chiming in and said, well, now it's not about the story. | |
| It's about Andy. | |
| And while, yeah, that may have been the case, but that's because of the fact that, okay, he's covering a story in which other people, these groups have now assaulted, have now attacked him. | |
| That's the story right there. | |
| So I commend you for continuing to go on. | |
| I mean, there was a once upon a time that was what journalism was about. | |
| It was a time when journalism was about intentionally putting yourself in the position that you need to be to get the story that you need. | |
| Not intentionally putting yourself in the way of violence, but just inserting yourself into the exact mode, undercover journalism, guerrilla journalism. | |
| Those are even words I feel like that shouldn't even be a part of our dialogue. | |
| That should just be the one word journalism in terms of people willing to do what it takes. | |
| But now journalism is simply blogging in your New York 500 square foot flat, using other people's information to create your show. | |
| And everyone always mistakes commentators for journalists, too. | |
| And that's not the same thing. | |
| On that note, guys, I just wanted to get it off the table. | |
| We're going to continue to explore this, but I just, I thank you guys for being here. | |
| And we're going to explore some of this. | |
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| This is the broom closet, and we are live here with Andy No and Eric July. | |
| Andy, after the attack, as what you're talking about, I know we all have very different views. | |
| You are a little more liberal, but you, you know, in some ways you can lean right. | |
| I know you're an anarch or capitalist. | |
| I'm like a TikTok liberal where I just don't know what I am anymore. | |
| I'm like, I'm like politically confused. | |
| I just know I'm like getting pushed further and further towards taking stronger positions. | |
| That's all I'll say. | |
| Things have happened recently. | |
| Developments have happened in response to Antifa. | |
| This is an ongoing issue, one that I was wrong about, Andy. | |
| One of the many issues that I've been wrong about where I thought they were going to die down. | |
| You told me I was incorrect. | |
| Andy No posted this just the other night. | |
| He said, breaking Portland police's entire rapid response team, the unit tasked with responding to riots, has resigned from their roles after the district attorney Mike Schmidt announced the prosecution of one of them. | |
| And Oregon DOJ is investigating another. | |
| Let's get into the story. | |
| The rapid response team, which you may have seen famously in many of our videos, I'm sure you're familiar with that too. | |
| They are pretty rapid. | |
| Voted unanimously to resign on Wednesday following the criminal indictment of an officer for assault stemming from a riot in August of 2020. | |
| There they are looking completely badass. | |
| Even if you don't like cops or you like cops, you got to admit they always look pretty intimidating with all of their armor. | |
| From Katie Davis court, it says this. | |
| Let me exit out of their nice ad. | |
| The rapid response team, a unit within the Portland Police Department, voted unanimously to resign. | |
| This follows the criminal indictment of the officer for assault stemming from a riot in August 2020. | |
| Sources when the police bureau told the post-millennial officer Corey Budworth was on the rapid response team, a group police of officers that volunteer for the posts and are deployed to respond to riots, civil unrest, and demonstrations in Portland. | |
| Budworth was indicted and charged with one count of fourth-degree assault, a misdemeanor by Montmont District Attorney Mike Schmidt's office on Tuesday. | |
| And on the night of August of 18, 2020, Antifa militants threw a Molotov cocktail into the county sheriff's department headquarters. | |
| That's not good. | |
| As the rapid response team struggled to contain the riot. | |
| And in a statement released after the indictment, Smith said that in this case, we alleged that no legal justification existed for Officer Budworth's deployment of force and that the deployment of force was legally excessive under the circumstances. | |
| Okay, first of all, Andy, what is fourth-degree assault? | |
| I've never heard of that in my life. | |
| And also, what did he do that he was going to be charged while dozens to not hundreds of Antifa over the last year have had their charges dropped in the same area? | |
| Fourth-degree assault is a misdemeanor. | |
| So first-degree assault would be a felony. | |
| Second-degree assault is a felony in the state of Oregon. | |
| So fourth-degree assault is in terms of a criminal charge of assault is the most minor that it can be. | |
| So background context. | |
| This alleged incident happened in August of last year at the height of nightly mass violence and rioting and arson attacks. | |
| And the rapid response team every night was tasked with being the only responders. | |
| So, and you've been on the ground. | |
| You see how aggressive and vicious and brutal the rioters are towards law enforcement as well as regular citizens and residents in the areas that they terrorize. | |
| This officer is accused of using excessive force during a riot against an accused rioter. | |
| So now, Portland police have been in the county, Montnoman County, the city council, the district attorney, everybody has had their clause out for wanting to one defund police, which they did last year, to abolish parts of the police, which they did. | |
| They abolished the gun violence reduction team. | |
| That's resulted in the record number of shootings and homicides they're experiencing in our city. | |
| And the other thing is they wanted to bring criminal convictions against police to show that we're on the side of BLM. | |
| We're going to hold our police accountable. | |
| So there was first a civil lawsuit. | |
| One of the far-left communist-linked attorneys in Portland worked with this alleged Antifa rioter to say that she was injured. | |
| She identifies as press. | |
| I mean, as far as I know, she just wore press markings, but all of her politics. | |
| These are the fake Antifa. | |
| We call them here the fake Antifa press, meaning they're just activists with press badges. | |
| So they assault officers and they use press for immunity to go ahead. | |
| So this is one of the fake Antifa pairs. | |
| And they act as human shields and they intentionally ignore lawful dispersal orders. | |
| They try to make it impossible for the riot to be cleared. | |
| So she and the lawyer sued Sibyl. | |
| The city settled for $50,000. | |
| And then the Multnomah County district attorney in response was thinking, oh, maybe there's merit in this civil case. | |
| We're going to charge this guy and a grand jury, which is held in Portland. | |
| Portland is a political monoculture of the hard left and left, chose to indict him. | |
| And so the rapid response team, that's a volunteer assignment. | |
| Like you have to choose to take on that responsibility of responding to riots and civil unrest and all that. | |
| And they voted earlier this week to all of them would resign from that post. | |
| And the seriousness of this is it means that when a riot breaks out in Portland, there's no trained team to respond. | |
| It would just be regular cops, cops who don't have crowd control training, who don't have the right gear. | |
| Who may not even be familiar with these people? | |
| Like that's an important factor, by the way. | |
| And I want to throw this over to Eric before we go on. | |
| I mean, this idea of sort of dismantling the normal status quo, like you're talking about, let's say they're going, okay, we want to get rid of this force, which they confront nightly that they say uses excessive force on them. | |
| I don't know about you, but fourth-degree assault doesn't sound extremely excessive. | |
| I mean, you're not a big fan of law enforcement. | |
| I know that you see some need for law and order in some regard. | |
| I mean, is this a good move on behalf of Portland to get rid of this team? | |
| Or what do you think about this? | |
| Well, no, I mean, because you got to look at everything in context. | |
| And yeah, I am an anarcho-capitalist, so it'd be my position that when we look at law, it's private, private law society. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Not some monopolized law, which is what we generally have everywhere in this country. | |
| But it's that, I don't want to say a perfect storm. | |
| I mean, I guess that's what you can call it, where you have a combination of a bunch of different issues that are happening at the same time. | |
| So in places like Portland and places like Seattle and, you know, Upper East Coast and those areas, the Chicagos of the world as well, where you have let allow a beast essentially to manifest itself, right? | |
| And unfortunately, people that are, which they're pretty sure there are good people that are in Portland, of course, who want no part of this. | |
| Well, they've been either completely just de-armed. | |
| It's nearly impossible for them to be armed. | |
| And most importantly, which is what we saw at, for example, in Minneapolis, when you do even respond to an act of aggression, like on your own property. | |
| I don't know if you guys remember the pawn shop owner. | |
| Pull out the gun on people trying to harass him. | |
| Sean's own house or whatever or in the shop. | |
| Right. | |
| And instead of them looking, even the police, and I think this is where you agree, you agree with me on this in terms of the police, where they go act like he's the criminal for defending himself and his property, right? | |
| So you've allowed that idea to manifest. | |
| So you've entrusted them to have to deal with these sorts of problems. | |
| The individuals can't. | |
| It's not like a private militia could say, okay, we're not going to have this allowing these guys to do whatever the hell it is that they want on our streets where our businesses are, near our homes. | |
| We're not going to allow it. | |
| Well, that's going to be obviously illegal and you're not going to, you're going to be the one that's going to get messed up in the event that you do that. | |
| So then the people that you have, again, entrusted with this ability or right rather to break this up, they bail, right? | |
| So again, at this point, it's not even like a power vacuum or anything. | |
| It's just, well, nobody can do anything. | |
| And if you do do something, you're going to be the one that gets punished. | |
| So when we talk about defund the police and we talk about all these other concepts, I know I get a lot of people asking me about this because generally I'm going to be on the opposite side of the police, which is true, right? | |
| But I'm not irrational in the sense that I understand the reality of the actual situation. | |
| And that is that you have this monopolized fortunate form of law. | |
| And then the people that are within it, the individuals, the people that actually need the protection have been basically left just, for lack of better terms, assed out. | |
| And in any event that they do respond, they are the ones that are going to be perceived as the criminals. | |
| So it sucks to be in an area like that, to live out there like that, where it's like, okay, if you're not going to protect me, right? | |
| And you're not going to protect my business and you're not going to protect where I live, let me do it. | |
| And I think that would be, if there is to be a common ground, that's it. | |
| But in places like that, definitely these uber liberal areas, definitely when it comes to gun ownership or even private militias, they aren't the most fun of that. | |
| So unfortunately, a lot of people out there with this stuff, because that question doesn't get answered. | |
| They're only looking at it short side, only looking at it from the police, police bad, and that's it. | |
| Well, they're the ones that are going to be left assed out. | |
| So when there is a bunch of violence that does break out and people's businesses are going to get ransacked and there's going to be absolutely nothing out there, it's going to be a very unfortunate situation. | |
| Right. | |
| This brings up the question because about, you know, who do we hold responsible? | |
| And we've become a society that is catering to the rioter, that is catering to the violent protester. | |
| Yeah, we're like, we're like, it's one thing to be skeptical of law enforcement, which I am skeptical of law enforcement because they are an extension of the executive. | |
| They're an enforcement of law. | |
| And if you don't trust who's writing and who's making the laws, then you probably won't trust the enforcement of those laws. | |
| So I think a healthy skepticism of people and accountability is good. | |
| It's not only good for society, it's good for the officers themselves so that they're not feeling pressured by their superiors to do things that are outside of their comfort zone. | |
| But it's like when we see that people demonize, let's say, a journalist for recording them, demonize the police for trying to corral them in, demonize shop owners and homeowners for defending their property from them, but give these people praise, it only continues to embolden them to go out and do more violence. | |
| And Andy, this is my question. | |
| I mean, as somebody who's been a victim multiple times, but also been one of the greatest arbiters of documenting these people, again, you can see Antifa Unmasked, you get on Amazon or anywhere else you want. | |
| New York Times bestseller, amazing book. | |
| You know, you barely see any prosecution. | |
| And this is an article from Postmillennial, and I want to get your thoughts. | |
| It's like, well, alleged Portland Antifa member faces federal charges over a $164,000 riot rampage. | |
| An accused writer was caught on surveillance video is facing charges for causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage to federal property at three separate Portland riots. | |
| And you see him, you see him, this is him, right? | |
| Here? | |
| Okay, so talk, talk to me about this because we're hearing about everyone else being held accountable but Antifa, but they would point to this. | |
| No, we do hold Antifa accountable. | |
| What is this story? | |
| What is going on here? | |
| So that's one of the more recent federal charges. | |
| You have to remember that the rioters last year and this year have been attacking both city property, private property, as well as federal property. | |
| So it's up to the federal government to choose to investigate and to prosecute those who were involved in, for example, trying to destroy the federal courthouse in downtown trying to set it on fire. | |
| This alleged rioter is accused of throwing dozens and dozens of projectiles, most likely rocks, and breaking out dozens of windows at three separate riots at federal property, the U.S. federal courthouse and the local immigration and customs enforcement facility. | |
| In the local reporting on this, or if you look at the press release from the federal government, it names him and it names his charges and it names what he's accused of allegedly doing on the specific dates. | |
| It makes no mention of his politics and affiliation to Antifa. | |
| So that report that you just pulled up was something that I worked on recently with my colleague Mia Kathel. | |
| And all you have to do is just look at if you pull up the criminal complaint as I did, there were pictures of him at the arrest. | |
| And if you zoom in on one of the pictures, you see he's wearing an armor type thing and there's an Antifa emblem on it. | |
| I looked through his social media, which he's now changed, but he used the Antifa 2 flag logo on his Twitter as well as his Facebook. | |
| And all this is important to document because the Antifa are built on deception. | |
| They want you to believe that they don't really exist, that it's a figment of the imagination of the right in a boogeyman of the right. | |
| But one reason why they really hate me and why they say I dox them is because I look through their own personal writings and save it and screenshot it before they have a chance to delete it. | |
| Most of them have deleted it, but some of them, there's still things up, and you can see, oh, here's where they identify with Antifa. | |
| Oh, here's with the pick a photo of them holding up the symbol either in a flag or posing in front of it with weapons. | |
| So I don't allow them to delete the record that's out there. | |
| And that's why they really view me as an existential threat. | |
| Because if you add up all of this, rider after rider, and you look at the evidence, this is an organized networks of groups. | |
| They're not just people who are protesting peacefully for racial justice or social justice. | |
| These are people who identify with an organization, use its symbols and such. | |
| And all of that is important, I think, for the federal government to apply RICO charges and other investigation tools that would help dismantle Antifa as similar to some type of cartel group or the mafia. | |
| The tools are there. | |
| So my frustration from the last administration to the current one is that none of these tools that the federal government has to break up Antifa is being used. | |
| Instead, we see things like endless roundabout on people with the 6th of January or discussions about overblowing the threat of white supremacy, so on and so forth. | |
| So I'm not saying that there's no threat from the far right. | |
| I think I always have to say on record all the time that obviously we have the body count of people who espouse far-right or racist beliefs involved in killing people for political reasons. | |
| But Antifa has also killed. | |
| Antifa has also maimed. | |
| Antifa sets fives to buildings with people inside and carry out death threats in an organized manner. | |
| Can we also clarify, too, the attempted murders of Antifa are much higher than people talk about because the way that they lay light buildings on fire and block doors with people inside? | |
| I mean, you could go, well, the death count isn't as high. | |
| And it's like, well, there's been rapid response teams luckily before then. | |
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| So Andy, you know, you were mentioning specifically, you know, with what's been going on with Antifa, what's going on with the police, with people not being held accountable, with the fact that they've committed violence as well. | |
| And I need to throw this to Eric because Eric is somebody who understands this. | |
| You're say you're an anarchist. | |
| How are you not bad? | |
| And they're and they're like, what are they doing wrong? | |
| Like, what is it that makes them bad anarchy and makes you good anarchy? | |
| Because I'm damn confused by everything. | |
| Like that when you talk to me, I don't even get it. | |
| Yeah, obviously, you know, we talk about me being an anarchist, an anarcho-capitalist coming from the completely different side of this, this, if there is to be an anarchist wing. | |
| I'm not even one of those that believes in people that just call themselves anarchists. | |
| They actually are when you consider some of the things that they advocate. | |
| Definitely with these Antifa types, they would absolutely prefer effectively their sort of state. | |
| Maybe if you, you know, even go on the Karl Marx route of the dictatorship of the proletariat. | |
| And those guys are anti-private property rights, right? | |
| Which is the foundation of what it is that I absolutely believe in. | |
| And this is why when you look at the Antifa types and where we differ so much, and when you see guys like, I don't know if you've seen the memes, people see them and they're like, okay, this is how people envision anarchy. | |
| And they'll show you a picture of some idiot Antifa weirdo or communist weirdo throwing something into a window. | |
| And then you have some like loving family on the other one says, actually, that's not what it is. | |
| This is more so what it is, the loving, loving family being, because we're about peace. | |
| We're about voluntarism and voluntary interaction. | |
| Where these guys are about aggression and violation of obviously private property rights. | |
| So they differ completely and fundamentally, which is why we act so different, right? | |
| And this is why, even when we talk about, for example, with the police brutality, and I've always said that you'll never see me, and I've been on many networks or rather shows on the blaze, and I've reiterated this time and time again. | |
| And that is that the people that, if there is to be someone that has a point in a protest, even if it starts to ruffle a little feathers, it's the ones that are going directly at the aggressors. | |
| They almost never do that. | |
| Almost, that's never the case. | |
| They generally will not go to, okay, if they police bad, they go directly to the precinct, take their issues up with them. | |
| It's not what we generally deal with. | |
| They'll destroy the entire block on maybe the way to it while they're trying to set it off. | |
| Why is it they have a problem with the police? | |
| And I know when they attack police precincts, that it's a normal thing, but that's so you're saying that's the difference between you, an anarcho-capitalist, and like just an anarcho-communist would be like, they believe that they can kind of use any means and destroy private property. | |
| You're like, look, if you have a problem with the state, if you want to fight back against the state, that's one thing. | |
| But individual citizens living in there, leave them out of it. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Because, you know, it makes sense for people to combat their own government. | |
| And I'm not promoting violence. | |
| I do understand it. | |
| I even understand left-wing violence and right-wing violence against the state. | |
| Not promoting it. | |
| Right. | |
| Just understand it, but against fellow citizens. | |
| Like, what the hell did a shop owner do to you? | |
| If you're mad about police brutality, how does Mr. Wong's, I know that came up, I said Mr. Wong right as you went to Andy. | |
| Sorry. | |
| But like, how does Mr. Wong's like little like? | |
| I can't answer that. | |
| Yeah, what? | |
| So from the outside, the politicians in Portland and such who are now, some of them in residence are getting fed up with the weekly destruction and vandalism of the Antifa do. | |
| They say, what's this have to do with the BLM message or purchase? | |
| Well, there's actually a lot of meaning in that in the eyes of Antifa. | |
| The reason why they destroy businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with connections to police or anything like that or racism is because they view property ownership, capital businesses as itself linked to fascism. | |
| They believe the system of capitalism allows fascism to grow and to foster and to spread. | |
| And so that's why they target businesses and private property. | |
| That's why they're justified in their mind. | |
| So, you know, right about this in my book, the people who in the mainstream left, idiot liberals on like CNN or MSNBC who come out and defend Antifa, they're showing their ignorance on the Antifa ideology. | |
| And they're trying to gaslight us all into thinking Antifa just means anti-fascism, that they're comparable to American soldiers who liberated Europe from fascism. | |
| Like, you know, they're standing and pissing on the graves of the veterans who gave their lives to fight for freedom and liberty against fascism by even using them in the same sentence as anti-fair, anti-fi, anarchists, communists. | |
| We hear a lot about insurrection. | |
| Antifa is by their own labels, a anti-government insurrectionary movement for anarchist communism. | |
| And what they want to do, when people be like, when people say things like, you know, Antifa are fighting for a world without racism, the world they're fighting for is no government, no state, and communist communes that operate autonomously. | |
| And we can look to see what that looks like. | |
| You look at the autonomous zones. | |
| I know you were in the autonomous zone in Seattle. | |
| I was there. | |
| There was one in Portland. | |
| There's one in Minneapolis and other places. | |
| These are areas that become areas of murder and chaos. | |
| The shootings that happened in the Seattle Autonomous Zone in Portland last December. | |
| They actually set up booby traps on the street and had stations set up where there were rocks and bottles ready to throw at anybody who entered. | |
| They had checkpoints and people armed with guns and knives questioning you if you walked in. | |
| This is what they mean by their autonomous zone. | |
| So you don't have to take my word for it. | |
| Go and look at what they actually do when they take over territory. | |
| Yeah, and this is, I'm going to, Eric, this is interesting because Andy's speaking this weekend in Denver. | |
| Amazing. | |
| And of course, I think it says here, do you have this image, Savannah, that says, help us serve milkshakes to fascists? | |
| I'll add it in post. | |
| Okay, you added in post. | |
| Okay, so they, I didn't go to my screen though. | |
| We can go to their event page at least. | |
| Let him post. | |
| So you're the Western BLM and Tifa Summit, which they had last time they did this. | |
| Somebody was killed in Denver, if I'm not mistaken. | |
| I don't think they, it was ended being a security guard for a news crew. | |
| Somebody ended up getting shot a right-winger, and no one talked about it. | |
| Nobody cared about it. | |
| It was swept under the rug. | |
| But they've already decided that they're going to be doing plant-based milkshake throwing at what I can only assume to be the attendees as well as to Andy No. | |
| And thank God, though, when it comes to milkshakes, I thought, how dare you take a giant cup of non-vegan material and throw it at people? | |
| At least, please save the animals. | |
| I was really, I was flabbergasted. | |
| Be like, you would throw whole milkshakes? | |
| At least go with oat milk. | |
| They heard my cries. | |
| They heard the public's request and feedback. | |
| And they've decided to make vegan milkshakes with like oat milk and plant-based materials. | |
| And they even created a graphic. | |
| This is the first communist milkshake I've ever seen. | |
| You can see there's the hammer and sickle with a rainbow because most of them are transsexuals or gay or have committed to one or the other, which is a true, it is a true statement. | |
| Many are transsexual, many are gay, and there's a big LGBT connection. | |
| I mean, this is a pre-planned assault on people. | |
| This is a pre-planned assault on a journalist. | |
| A pre-planned, this is premeditated. | |
| How are the organizers of this not in jail? | |
| How is this event allowed to stay on Facebook? | |
| Like, what is this double standard? | |
| Well, and that's why people that are generally, let's say, on the side of liberty, but still entrust the government to try to get us out of any situation should be looking and paying attention to that. | |
| It was like that with the January 6th thing, right? | |
| And how they tried to word that is always hilarious to me when they try to say, well, you know, this is different because they're attacking us. | |
| They're attacking our democracy. | |
| Like, first of all, they ain't got nothing to do with me. | |
| But when these people will, albeit premeditated, will go and attack you. | |
| They just sit there. | |
| They'll stand by. | |
| Sometimes they'll sweep it under the rug in the event that someone gets killed. | |
| But then there's this hyper emphasis anytime it's on, or they think that they could place this shoe on other foot. | |
| Now, granted, what's January 6th? | |
| We found out much of what the initial irrational reportings were were all false. | |
| Like with the Brian Sicknego, beating the head, beating to death with a fire extinguisher. | |
| That was a lie. | |
| And they will lie in order to get their way. | |
| But when you see that, and going back to the previous point as well, you see the fundamental difference between these guys. | |
| And this is why I would never let these, definitely these anarcho-communistic people who pretend as if they are anti-state. | |
| They like to say that the guys like myself are actually not the anarchists, but they are anti-we look at like, for example, with the autonomous zone, which was effectively a mini-state anyway, albeit a failed state. | |
| It was, yeah. | |
| Effectively a mini-state. | |
| They don't believe in. | |
| Pyongyang Jr. | |
| They don't believe in, they're not anti-anti-stateism. | |
| It's just that they want generally control over it, albeit for their own personal ideals. | |
| It's anti-again private property. | |
| And Andy's completely right. | |
| That's always been that ideology and why they would, again, claim that the anarcho-capitalists aren't the anarchists because they associate it with being anti-property, right? | |
| And that's exactly what it is that they are. | |
| But it also shows why they act so different, differently. | |
| But they themselves are ignorant on history as well. | |
| I've always thought it was a hilarious thing that communists, this is what I've said. | |
| I've said it on News of Why It Matters many times: that if you're using a political, let's say, spectrum that places communism on the opposite side of fascism, it's ahistorical. | |
| When you look at the Italian Fascist Party, when you look at the Mussolinis of the world, the Giovanni Gentiles, they were not classical liberals. | |
| They were literally communists. | |
| He got kicked out for being too radical. | |
| When you look at the Mussolinis of the world, when you look at the Read the Doctrine of Fascism, when they talk about that they were this pro-collectivist movement, that's why they were against liberty. | |
| They were anti-individualistic was the term that they actually used in the doctrine of fascism. | |
| But these weirdos like to think that they're on the opposite side of the people that they think generally are the most evil sons of guns. | |
| And why I'd argue that, yeah, I wouldn't argue against them being evil. | |
| I just think they're more akin to those people as they would like to lead others to believe, which is why, again, it's hilarious. | |
| It is a war, unfortunately, on rhetoric, a war on information. | |
| They've been able to use the, you look no further than that. | |
| You look at the universities and all those being long compromised when they have been able to convince large swaths of people that fascism is on the opposite side of communism when they belong on the exact same side. | |
| It's extremism. | |
| And they rise to balance each other out. | |
| People don't realize that a lot of the history of fascism has been a response to communism into some level or form. | |
| Meaning, I think the reason why they exaggerate the threat of fascism is because historically speaking, one of the greater threats to communism has been fascism or also liberal democracies, even in the more recent decades. | |
| But it's like, it's funny because it's so vogue to be communist. | |
| Like if you had a Facebook and you put a swastika like this, go to my page here. | |
| If you were like a page called Denver Fascists and you had a swastika and we're like, hey, there's a BLM LGBT rally and we're going to come throw milkshakes at them. | |
| The FBI would be at your door. | |
| Facebook would have your page deleted. | |
| I mean, this would be a very serious threat, as Merrick Garland says, to our democracy, which we never ever, no one ever told me when we became a democracy. | |
| I don't know when that happened, but apparently the Biden administration changed our ruling, reigning government. | |
| But they say things like this. | |
| It's like the BLM and Tifa summit organizers, apparently, this is the event you're speaking at, aren't buying Hunt's line that the COVID caused the drop in expected attendance from 2,000 to 500. | |
| Bro, yes, I've spoken at many events recently. | |
| If they don't get canceled, then you're lucky for people to even show up. | |
| Even if the speakers call out, it's ridiculous. | |
| Anyway, they go like this year, big names have been replaced by lesser losers. | |
| I always love their terminology. | |
| Like, these are like, I have words to describe these people that would get me kicked off air. | |
| Lesser losers like Grifter and professional victim Lauren Bobert. | |
| I might be mistaken, but she's not a grifter. | |
| She's like in government. | |
| So that's another thing. | |
| Lakewood anti-gay cake maker Jake Philip, Jack Phillips, Portland right-wing provocator and infamous milkshake wearer Andy No, among various other D-list culture war reactionaries, says the communists unironically, and it's like when you see this, what is the intent? | |
| Like, why does a tech company like Facebook, what do they have to gain from, for instance, allowing, promulgating, and I would in this way say, indirectly promoting violence against people on the right wing and therefore also sanctioning and allowing communists and people who are responsible for up to 100 million deaths or more in the 20th century to have a platform to continue to gain ground. | |
| I just don't understand this. | |
| Like, why are they given special preference by tech companies and allowed to organize violence on their websites when it's like, I can't even call someone like a, I can't even say the word, but I can't even call someone something derogatory. | |
| The institutional capture of big tech by the left needs to be discussed more because you're seeing these platforms, Google, Facebook, Twitter, et cetera, they get to determine essentially what is considered extremism and what is not allowed to be promulgated into the public. | |
| And so they've done a very, very good job at identifying the far right. | |
| And in fact, I would say they've cast the net so wide that they unfairly target a lot of people who are conservative and accuse them of spreading extremist materials. | |
| On the flip side, I think I would have less protestations if the if big tech applied as wide of the net to the far left as well. | |
| And they don't. | |
| So that's why you have antifa fundraising by sharing links that get shared through their networks on Twitter. | |
| That's how they get a lot of the crowdfunding. | |
| That's how you have an event up on Facebook right now for this BLM Antifa summit that is explicitly threatening assault. | |
| I mean, the branding and imaging they're using makes it look cute, right? | |
| Rainbows and milkshakes and all that. | |
| The imagery that they're using to promote the event is of my assault in 2019 when after they punched and kicked me and gave me a brain hemorrhage, they pelted all their drinks at my face so I couldn't see. | |
| They're using that imagery to promote this event and it's not taken down. | |
| When I was on the ground recently before the beating in Portland, I was listening to what the Antifa were saying and they were talking about how if we, this was the quote, if we don't have Twitter, we would not be able to do mutual aid. | |
| Mutual aid is what they call when they fundraise and gather some type of material support for whatever direct actions that they're doing. | |
| So they know how to. | |
| Just to clarify for the listeners or the blind viewers who don't know like direct action is and this kind of terminology, maybe you're not familiar with this stuff. | |
| This is like this is they always use this phrase direct action, like taking action into the streets, doing, if I'm not mistaken, this is like their direct action teams and they go out and they take and they break windows and they respond to things quickly and that's like kind of their like cultural revolutionary communist phraseology. | |
| Am I wrong or is that correct? | |
| Direct action has been used historically by the left to just refer to any type of protest action where you take things into your own hands. | |
| It can include things like civil disobedience. | |
| That's considered, you know, let's say sitting on the ground and blocking people from being able to enter a building. | |
| That's a form of direct action. | |
| When ANSIFA use it though, they're referring to physical confrontations with people, assault, arson, property destruction, criminal activities. | |
| Right. | |
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| I'm going to get into this here. | |
| Is that, you know, we talk about not being held accountable, and I kind of want to bring into this whole around with accountability with anarchists because how do you hold an anarchist accountable? | |
| I know, Andy, you just released this, and people would say this proves our conversation wrong about them not being held accountable, Eric. | |
| From the New York Post, more than two dozen Antifa rioters are charged for Portland mayhem. | |
| It says here, I think we have this video that is just a Portland police video that we didn't have downloaded. | |
| But this is some of the mayhem apparently that they are charging people with. | |
| I don't know if I can skip ahead here for a second. | |
| Oh, there you go. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Is there an incendiary thrown here? | |
| Yep. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, so I can speak to that eventually. | |
| By the way, I wrote this article for the New York Post. | |
| The video you're seeing is of allegedly Malik Mohammed throwing a homemade inundary device at the rapid response team. | |
| The group of police officers, one of the police officers' foot and leg was caught on fire by this. | |
| And he's been charged with attempted murder, among other crimes. | |
| He's from Minneapolis, and he's accused of traveling all the way to Portland as well as other cities to learn about rioting and to riot in Portland. | |
| And so he, out of the more than a thousand people who have been arrested for riot-related crimes in Portland, he faces the most serious charges in that he's charged with attempted murder and other very serious felonies. | |
| He was held by the state of Oregon on a $2.1 million hold in jail. | |
| And the Portland bail fund bailed him out. | |
| They paid $2.1 million or they hit 10%, maybe. | |
| They paid 10% of it. | |
| They paid over $200,000 cash to get him out. | |
| And then the federal government stepped in and he's been rearrested and charged federally for crimes related to his activities because there was interstate travel. | |
| So, yes, there are people who are facing serious crimes, even those who have pled guilty for federal crimes related to riots since last year. | |
| But that number is really, really a token. | |
| And if you actually look at the ones that have been convicted, they're sentenced not to jail. | |
| They're sentenced to probation or a short amount of time of home detention. | |
| I mean, one of the antifa rioters in Portland got just a few years of probation for assaulting a federal officer. | |
| You know, and you can compare and contrast that to the charges levied against those accused of violent activities at the Capitol on the 6th of January. | |
| They're getting solitary without bail. | |
| Some of them are assaulting an officer. | |
| I mean, they're in solitary without bail, not even gone to trial. | |
| The political prisoners, even if they committed a crime, they're not receiving fair treatment in terms of in proportion to it. | |
| Let's say, if, yeah, if you were a left-wing Antifa and you assaulted an officer at a federal building, the charges might even be dropped. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So recently there's been a little bit of a shift in the wind. | |
| I think the prosecutor, Mike Schmidt, who was elected last year and identifies as progressive and hard left and is for criminal justice reform, restorative justice, all these buzzwords. | |
| It's been on him that there's been essentially a catch and release of the rioters. | |
| But after a year of that, Portlanders, many of their left-wing, they're getting sick of the violence and arson and destruction. | |
| So I feel as sort of throwing a little bit of red meat to people who are going to vote for him when he runs for election next time is who actually makes charges stick on some of these people. | |
| And that's related to some of these recent felony charges. | |
| But it should have been that way from last year. | |
| You have over and over, as I documented last year, when I would release the mugshots and the names and the charges and whether or not their case was dropped. | |
| You see over and over, these were people who were accused of really serious, felonious crimes, and they weren't being held accountable. | |
| And that allowed the problem to grow to what we see today. | |
| And back to the rapid response team for Portland police, the so-called riot police. | |
| All the violence that we saw in these shocking videos, Elijah, some of which you saw, some of which your friends and colleagues recorded, all of that happened in the context of there being a riot response team. | |
| And that's how bad it was. | |
| So you can imagine when violence breaks out again on the streets, there won't even be that police response. | |
| And that's what scares me. | |
| And that's why, is that a net negative? | |
| I mean, if you have to sum this up, and this is an ongoing conversation that we have to have and we have to continue to discuss, but with, you know, Andy being beaten up, all of these things, the perspective from the right, yours is always unique. | |
| And it's like, what do we do? | |
| A normal citizen, you're here in Texas. | |
| I mean, what the hell do we do as a country when a city like Portland has fallen and can't contain its own crime problems? | |
| And I have friends who live there. | |
| I have people who don't want to deal with this bullshit and they're over it. | |
| It's like, what is the right response? | |
| Is it a federal response? | |
| Is it a state response? | |
| I mean, how do we handle the growing threat of left-wing extremism that is not being dealt with by the government? | |
| Well, again, and that's why I'm such an advocate of decentralization, right? | |
| Because I think what happens is when you have something as big and massive as the federal government, people unfortunately tend to lean towards it and lean on it for a solution. | |
| So we're not even looking for it at all. | |
| And again, going back to instances like in Minneapolis, I think it would be different in Texas and the Floridas of the world, but where your hands are literally tied behind your back. | |
| So even when you got the solution, like this solution is simple. | |
| We're not going to allow you to act a plumb fool on our block where our businesses are and where our homes are at. | |
| We're not going to allow it. | |
| Unfortunately, that is not the case for a lot of different areas. | |
| So you have to, one, I think we focus so much on decentralization and we need to because what it does is it gets people more looking towards the actual solution to what obviously is around them. | |
| An analogy that I always use is like it's easier for me, for example, to fight the government of Texas than it is for me to fight the United States government, federal government. | |
| It's easier for me to fight Dallas County than it is Denton County, Collin County. | |
| than it is for me to fight the state of Texas, for example. | |
| And we have to, again, get rid of more, obviously you can talk through this abolition or through just do peer decentralization in order to actually start to even have an honest conversation about this instead of looking to someone to or more this major big institution, which is showing you time and time again that they aren't certainly on your side because again, they will see you as the actual criminal in the event that you act. | |
| But these milquetoasts, unfortunately, these guys are in blue areas. | |
| Maybe they have fallen. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm a little more optimistic. | |
| Hopefully the pendulum starts to swing because like Andy mentioned, there are also people on the left who see this, definitely old blue dog Democrats, people that are older, that's been maybe in Oregon and Portland for their entire life. | |
| Property owners who don't want to see their properties devalued because of a lack of police. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And they may generally vote Democrat top to bottom, but they see it and they're like, you know what? | |
| This maybe isn't for, this is what I think of justice or something like that. | |
| And yeah, you're driving our property down and it's also not making a safe place for myself or my kids or my kids' kids to live. | |
| So I'm optimistic in that regards, but people have to start looking towards the solution that is nearest to them. | |
| And part of that has to do with having a very difficult conversation, as we mentioned earlier, with the people that are around you, because a lot of people, unfortunately, are in on it. | |
| These politicians are in on it. | |
| I can imagine when you get some like DA or something that's told you that they're on the side of the actual enemy, what problems that that creates, which is why I'm such an advocate of people linking up with other like-minded individuals, liberty-minded individuals. | |
| I believe absolutely in the power wealth community because at the end of the day, that is what's going to be most likely to defend yourself, which is ultimately what we're talking about. | |
| Defend yourself in the event that the crap hits the absolute fan, which may be sooner than later. | |
| It's sooner than later. | |
| You know, it may be sooner than later, but we're on that fast track to getting there if we continue on with this idea that the government and definitely federal government is supposed to be the ones that are going to save us because like even with this situation, they'll throw your bone. | |
| They'll throw your bone every now and then to get you to shut up while they still continue to do the corrupt stuff and continue to unfortunately run your life into the ground. | |
| This is why we don't trust them. | |
| And, you know, on that note, I want to thank you so much, Andy No, author of Unmasked, which you get on Amazon. | |
| Links in the description as well. | |
| Follow him on social media and subscribe to his YouTube channel. | |
| You can track his work actively on the far left on Twitter. | |
| This is a long-standing conversation. | |
| I know you'll be back. | |
| I thank you for joining us. | |
| And Eric July, YouTuber, musician, artist. | |
| You can find the link. | |
| Subscribe to his YouTube channel. | |
| It is amazing as well. | |
| Great commentary every day. | |
| You go live a lot on different platforms. | |
| Just YouTube. | |
| I think it's, you know, yeah, I'm on YouTube. | |
| We do the Odyssey stuff as well, but YouTube. | |
| YouTube? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so on that note, we're going to continue. | |
| And I'm glad that you're safe in Texas. | |
| Constitutional carry just passed. | |
| So we'll be safe here and carry a gun anywhere. | |
| Please remember, guys, if you are a blind viewer of the show, we are doing an amazing job. | |
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| So we've really, you guys have stretched us so far the last year. | |
| They wanted goals for the show for audio by December. | |
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