March 26, 2021 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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'Chad Crusaders' Battle 'LGBT Warriors' on Degeneracy | C-TMZ | Ep 139
What happens when you put two conservative straight men and two LGBT members in a debate? It turns into a fiery and explosive conversation surrounding whether or not degeneracy in America is a sign of freedom or a sign of deterioration. If you enjoyed the first Conserva-TMZ episode, get ready for the second installment of this series, which is way more explosive than the first. ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ FOLLOW JC MOUNDUIX ⇩ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/JCMounduix YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/c/JC%20Mounduix ⇩ FOLLOW BRYSON GRAY ⇩ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/RealBrysonGray WEBSITE: https://brysoncreates.com/ ⇩ FOLLOW TIFFANY STARR ⇩ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/tiffanystarrxxx?lang=en ⇩ FOLLOW JOHN DOYLE ⇩ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/johndoyle WEBSITE: https://heckoffcommie.com/ ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ TODAY'S SPONSOR ⇩ NORTHWEST RETENTION: If you're looking for a high-quality holster for your firearms, trust the brand used by the Slightly Offens*ve team! Go to https://nwretention.com/ and enter promo code OFFENSIVE to get 10% off. ________________________________________________________________ Become a subscriber at BlazeTV https://get.blazetv.com/slightly-offensive/ use my code "ELIJAH" to get $10 off a full year ________________________________________________________________ Slightly Offens*ve Merch: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/elijah-schaffer ________________________________________________________________ DOWNLOAD AUDIO PODCAST & GIVE A 5 STAR RATING!: APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/slightly-offens-ve-uncut/id1450057169 SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/7jbVobnHs7q8pSRCtPmC41?si=qnIgUqbySSGdJEngV-P5Bg (also available Google Podcasts & wherever else podcasts are streamed) ______________________________________________________________ ➤BOOKINGS/INQUIRIES: ELIJAH@SLIGHTLYOFFENSIVE.COM _________________________________________________________________ ⇩ SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ ELI'S LINKTREE https://linktr.ee/elijahschaffer ➤ SAV'S LINKTREE https://linktr.ee/savsays ➤ INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/slightlyoffensive.tv ➤ PARLER https://parler.com/profile/Elijahschaffer/posts ➤ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/officialslightlyoffensive _________________________________________________________________ The Idea Of A Free Society...For Kids! Head to https://teachrealprinciples.com for a unique book series that introduces the important ideas that schools no longer teach.
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you listen to what tiffany just said and you are a christian or just a normal human being and it didn't discuss you then it should well welcome back to slightly offensive the best worst show on blaze tv where we always have the best confetti of color Remember, it's always the noun first and then the description because we have to stay politically correct.
As always, I'm your top 17 host, Elijah Schaefer.
And today we have an amazing panel of guests that have come on to talk about the future of America and what makes us strong.
Are we going to decay as a nation?
It's something that really has concerned me recently.
Are we digressing as we progress, or is the progress we're seeing really beneficial to our society?
And it's actually the result of a free and liberal place that we call the United States of America.
We're going to weigh these options between each other by getting into things.
First, I want to welcome Tiffany Starr, who, of course, is a Twitcher.
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And I want to thank her so much for coming on the show as well as Bryson Gray.
He is a Christian conservative rapper, and he is here as well.
We have John Doyle, who is a conservative e-boy, as he described.
I consider myself more right-leaning, but I have very also very central thoughts.
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It has its flaws, but I feel like we can rectify them if we just implement policies that push us the right way.
I believe that America is stronger with diversity.
I know some people might not agree with that, but America is a diverse country and with diverse people and cultures.
And it's great for that reason.
We're not bland for one thing.
I just want to maximize happiness, like I said at the beginning, for as many Americans as possible.
You know, good health care, good infrastructure, more like better education, a military that will defend us really well.
We already have at least one of those.
So, I mean, I feel like we just have to push a little harder on some of the systemic issues that we're dealing with and reroute some of the money that we're diverting to causes we probably shouldn't be pushing for.
We're going to come back to this in a second, but let's jump to JC just so we can get his take.
I can tell that Tiffany's already ready to jump into the next question, but what do you think is the foundational values of America, including moral values?
Well, before I answer your question, let me clarify to Greg, because I think he's a huge fan of Pikachu.
I don't know why that was, I don't go around dressed as a Pikachu.
That was literally a Halloween party in college and we all go crazy.
What are the dorms?
And I dress up that day and we took pictures.
I mean, how old was I?
Like 19, 20.
I don't know why he, to my understanding, he might be into like some kind of like furry thing or whatever, because I have never done anything furry related.
I actually don't even really understand the concept of the furry thing.
I've never had anything to do with any of that.
But good look.
I mean, if I can satisfy some hiding fantasies, good for you, dude.
Anyway, so America.
I come from a very, very communist dictatorship.
So to me, how I see America, I mean, first of all, I see America as my mother, my everything.
You don't understand how much I love this country.
I have no words.
To me, it's the best country in the world.
And no matter what anyone says, it's always going to be the best country in the world.
And the main thing that I actually really appreciate about here is the freedom.
Holy cow, as someone who's literally lived in a communist country, the freedom and right now talking here, right now, with people who think different than me and we have like different, I don't know, point of views and just expressing my opinion.
This is like the main thing that I really, really appreciate about America.
I mean, the opportunity of like growth, to, I don't know, to have your business, to make money.
It's such an inclusive and I get really excited when I talk about America because honestly, dude, I like, I had never loved anything that much in my life.
Like I love this country.
And yeah, so to me, like the main value and what I see the most about living in a country like this is the freedom that we have here, the individualism, the opportunities.
And I also appreciate all the religions and beliefs that we have here and how we can just like survive and move forward and respecting each other.
I think I'm okay with all that, dude.
Like I just, like I said, I just love this country.
I think the best thing that we could look at as far as the foundational values of the country would be the men who built and constructed the country, which would be the founding fathers, and even the constitution.
You know, every law that we make in this country, every document that's written basically makes some sort of declaration or judgment as to how things ought to be oriented, whether that's a law banning murder or a speed limit or something like that.
And so, if you look at the Constitution, for example, which was written by, well, who's regarded to be the father of the Constitution, is a guy named James Madison.
And he even wrote that the Constitution was written for a moral and virtuous people, and that without that population living under that Constitution, the people would basically just devour each other because everything would just be total chaos.
And so, a word that's often used in the right more broadly, but people who are patriots and who love America is this idea of liberty.
And America is great because we have liberty.
And even the founding fathers regarded such to be the case.
However, the way that we understand liberty has changed a lot in the last few hundred years.
And if you look at the men who were studied by the founding fathers because they were scholars, you know, whether that's in the Greco-Roman tradition with who would that be?
Cicero, Aquinas, or not Aquinas, Cicero, Plato, or Aristotle, or then in the Christian tradition with Aquinas, Dante, or who's another one, Augustine.
They would always regard liberty to not be total freedom, but rather discipline.
And you would cultivate that discipline in order to truly be free and free from desire.
Because if you have total freedom, you're just eventually going to be a victim and a slave to your own desires, given the flawed nature of man, which they understood.
So what we're living under now really isn't liberty and the definition that's always been understood throughout history, even by the founding fathers.
It's really just a modern form of slavery where we're all free in the sense to pursue our own preferred method of self-destruction, which is ultimately just a form of like neo-slavery, so to speak.
Some people think we're at the greatest apex of our society ever in terms of freedom and rights.
We have a lot of talk about trans rights, et cetera.
I know you guys are familiar with this stuff and the conversations.
And so I want to just straight up bring this question.
As we've moved, and I would say the key defining factor of this era, other than being in 21 years of nonstop wars in the Middle East, would be this move for sexual liberation and freedom in society and culture.
And so this movement, the LGBTQ movement, number one, would you say that it has a net positive or a net negative effect on society as a whole, being more included in the national conversation and in everyday life?
Actually, while researching this topic of sexual liberation, I was disappointed to discover that there aren't many studies on this specific topic.
Most results are opinion pieces, which disinterest me.
However, the few studies I did happen to swing to find swing in the left's favor a bit.
A 2014 study found that socio-sexual, unrestricted individuals reported a higher well-being and lower stress after casual sex.
It's important to note that casual sex may increase depression depending on why you engage in it.
For example, someone using sex as a way to deal with emotions or for revenge purposes will most likely feel less fulfilled as opposed to people who engage in casual sex for enjoyment or to discover more about their sexuality, which, according to this study, is beneficial.
It also mentioned that sexual freedom can help prevent regrets, which is one of the leading reasons why people get divorced.
Many marry, sorry, people marry young and regret doing so and because they don't fully embrace the young adulthood because they feel stuck or tied down.
You feel like that sexual freedom and this idea of living sort of, I guess some would say, a promiscuous lifestyle, if you're a Christian conservative, do you think that that is a net positive or a net negative as a whole in our society?
For context, something that's interesting actually on that point is that originally it wasn't called AIDS.
It was called G-R-I-D because it was understood by the medical community to be something that was disproportionately and almost exclusively affecting gay communities.
And the gay people infiltrated the American Psychiatric Association.
They referred to themselves as the gay PA and they lobbied to have the name of it changed to AIDS so that it wouldn't marginalize gay people.
Anyways, so no, no, I was just saying, like, it's actually really not smart to think that HIV or STDs in general.
This is actually something that anyone can be affected by.
Me, as someone who was in college, I don't have stray friends and I had like gay friends and trans friends.
I've met gay people who are actually very, very monogamous that they've been in one relationship for like 20 years.
They only focus on the business.
They only focus, you know, and like in this type of like simple and conservative life.
And I've had stray friends who actually every single week, weekend, have like tense sexual partners.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think it's very stereotypical.
I don't even know how to say, you know, just put this only on a specific group of people.
I think it's a matter of probably like education.
I mean, we probably get better at educating people about like all these facts and how all these STDs actually, you know, transmit and stuff like that.
Then we will be doing better.
But I think it's just not a good thing to just about like a specific group, like about like gays or about like, I don't know, black people or, you know, smart people.
I know the LGBT community has very, very, a lot of negative things.
And I'm one of the first ones always like actually being very outspoken about that.
But one of the things that actually they have been doing really, really good is they have programs and a lot, a lot of them about testing people, even outside the clubs.
They are like very, very active about like, sorry, guys.
Reaching people who could have like an STD or anything like that.
So they actually do a really, really good job chasing all these STDs and HIV cases.
That's probably why you see more cases probably on the LGBT community.
I've been in a bar and I came outside at 12 a.m. and I've seen a little truck right there asking me if I want to get tested.
So if we have all these programs and we have all these, even right here in LA, I would say in every single mile, they have a building that is the Association Healthcare for AIDS or stuff like that.
And they provide pre-testing, pre-treatment, stuff like that.
Maybe it's because we are actually evolved till the point that we've just been chasing every single case and every single people who could be at risk.
And that's probably why we get diagnosed if we come up with one of these diseases.
In the straight community, this is not something that you see that often.
Like even if I tell my mom right now, hey, have you ever got a screen for STDs?
My mom will be like, well, I guess when I go my annual, I don't know, like physical, that they did it, but they don't really have the knowledge or the same educations that we get in the LGBT community when it comes to.
I think with the STDs, it's a little bit of a chicken versus egg type thing.
Like, do we have the testing because we have the diseases or do we have the prevalence because we have the testing?
I think what's interesting about male sexuality, especially with homosexuals, is you can actually see exactly how relationships with human beings would manifest if the female and male sexualities were actually identical.
And you can see this in the gay community because monogamy is basically non-existent.
I mean, I think 50% of gay relationships are open.
If you ask them if they're monogamous, like oftentimes they'll just laugh at you.
You've shared anecdotes with me about that.
The average gay relationship lasts less than two years.
And so, I mean, they've even done studies like, you know, with the pinnacle of gay behavior would probably be like 1980 San Francisco.
And they find like the average man there had like 500 partners in some studies.
So that's because men are fundamentally wired to basically just try to get everything pregnant.
But if you're homosexual, you know, you're going to be manifesting that behavior with other men.
And so casual hookups are a staple of gay culture.
This is not even remotely controversial or hidden within those communities.
So I think that would probably be the best explanation for why we're seeing that amount of STDs within the community, not necessarily just that they're getting tested more for whatever reason.
And that I know that like men want to like things, but not every man.
Like if it was like an internal biological thing that they had to like reproduce then or everything to reproduce, then there wouldn't be straight men who don't want kids.
And there's plenty of them.
And what I was going to say is, I did see the statistic that you brought up, Bryson, and it is pretty alarming.
But the good news is that HIV rates are actually down.
So when you look at the sexual liberation movement, one of the questions that I get asked a lot, and I think that people disagree with, and I want to have constructive, and I emphasize constructive conversation on this.
You know, some people see sexual liberation and this idea of the LGBTQ community as a sign of progress.
And other people see it as a sign of social degeneration in our country.
So do you believe that the LGBTQ community, and I would even just say like straight promiscuity, is a sign of, is this degenerate behavior?
Or is this a, I would just say like a cross-benefit of living in a free and liberal society?
What's wrong with taking a picture with Lady MAGA or Blair White?
You do realize that there is bad people who happen to be gay, and there is bad people who happen to be straight.
So many, I know so many straight people and so many gay people who have like the most amazing personalities ever and super educated, and they are like wonderful people.
So, why are you generalizing?
That's that's what I'm seeing right now.
For one second, let's say, hypothetically speaking, that you get your way, and we just uh make all homosexuals disappear right now.
That's this, we disappear all over, all over.
Do you think that all these new straight people who are gonna like keep reproducing are not gonna have uh homosexual children in the future?
So, you're just gonna like disappear them right now.
Starlight reproducing, the more homosexuals we're gonna have in the future, it's never gonna stop.
Okay, first off, the problem with a picture of Lady MAGA, and that is a 6'3-grown man in a dress.
He needs to be playing basketball, a hoop, and go on the pig skin or something.
He needs to be in some sports.
But unfortunately, unfortunately, he wants to dress up like a woman.
And he told me in real life that he don't even like dressing up like a woman.
So, yes, in real life, he said that.
Yeah, facts.
So, and I got witnesses, of course, and he has to admit it.
But, so, obviously, it's degenerate.
And I wouldn't want to take a picture with this person because you're promoting degeneracy.
So, that's obviously your second question: if all gay people, because everybody's gay, trans, all y'all gay in some kind of way, and all y'all disappear, guess what?
We wouldn't have no people boycotting Chick-fil-A.
We wouldn't have nobody saying we need gay representation in TV shows, and then the last of Gen Z will be gay.
And then, hey, you don't realize that most of the people who are actually screaming, who are actually screaming and crying about representation on TV, are actually like straight liberals.
You do realize that, right?
Because I know so many people who are actually like very quiet.
Yeah, that is two or three, but the straight liberal are the ones that are always doing the most.
Every single time I see one of these white cheeks, like with yellow hair or whatever, they're straight, and they're all like pro-LGBT and pro-pronounced and 100,000 pronouns.
Like, whatever you're saying right now, you just put it on a group of people, but it doesn't even make sense.
Maybe your experiences are different from mine, but I'm really not just.
I think the biggest problem with degeneracy is that, especially with men in particular, our greatest desire is sexual desire.
And so, your ability to control yourself basically manifests in every aspect of your life.
So, if you can't control your sexuality, then you're not going to be able to have discipline in all other regards.
And so, I think that the people who are sexually deviant are basically sexually narcissistic in that they believe that they have to, like we were talking about, be represented in all aspects of things because they derive their identity from their sexuality, especially given the fact that we've lost all national identity, all identity with God, etc.
And so, as a country right now, as a civilization, for the first time in recorded history, our life expectancy is actually decreasing because people are committing suicide.
They're overdosing on drugs.
Everybody's depressed, middle-aged white women in particular.
I'm looking at you.
And we think that we're somehow making progress because we can go kill brown children in the Middle East so that we can teach like their sisters about gender theory or something.
We basically have elevated sexual deviancy to the altar of eternal and universal progress, whereas everything else, I mean, everybody's fat now and out of shape, but we tell ourselves that because people can walk in a parade waving colored flags, that this is like the measure and metric of progress as a society, which isn't true.
And even with degeneration, for example, degenerating from our roots as a Christian nation, that would like, by definition, be what these types of acts would be.
Then I want to actually answer the initial question you made.
First off, Bri, if homosexuality wasn't natural, then homosexuals wouldn't exist.
People don't choose to be gay.
The reason the reason people rallied against Chick-fil-A is because they actively donated to anti-LGBT organizations that advocated to make our life harder.
Also, John, my identity as a person doesn't hinge on my sexuality.
I meant more than the movement, sexual liberation movement, not homosexual people ornately, just like this movement and this push to further and further fight for.
I said that the LGBTQ community, meaning I said their prevalence in the social conversation and their influence in it, meaning as this has progressed and they've gained more and more momentum, has that been a net positive effect on society or a net negative?
Not is a gay person's life valuable or not valuable.
Because the initial question made it sound like people assume that lives are valued inherently less in society, depending on who they are.
There's actually a bunch of bipartisan research on this topic, as well as obvious benefits with studies on AIDID.
Americans are becoming more accepting of LGBT people.
Back in 2006, only 51% of American thought homosexuals should be accepted.
But as of 2016, that number has increased to 63%.
I haven't found any data more relevant than 2016, but that's fairly recent and still rising, by the way.
This could be due to the fact that LGBT people have been granted more exposure over the past decade, as well as the number of people who identify as LGBT increases.
There are more LGBT people coming out now than ever before.
Studies show that there's no scientific evidence that people, I can talk, I promise.
Study shows there's no scientific evidence that parenting effectiveness is related to parental sexual orientation, meaning that same-sex couples are just as likely to provide supportive and healthy environments for children as LGBT people are.
In fact, the only negative to LGBT people in the workplace I can think of is the fact that they face more discrimination and aggression from other co-workers.
70% of LGBT people passed over for a job due to their sexual orientation or gender identity.
10 to 20% receive a negative performance evaluation or passed over for a promotion because they were gay or trans.
And 41% of gay and transgender workers were verbally or physically abused.
Seems to me like LGBT people just want to live their lives and be productive members of society.
Only the ignorant and bigoted are trying to make their lives a lot harder to do that.
I think since the early 1990s, the public perception of same-sex marriage, which is what we'll use for this example, has like literally inverted so that the amount of people who used to be against it are now in support of it and vice versa.
And oftentimes with these social movements, we tend to think of it in terms of like, oh, we just know better than the people 30 years ago did.
But that's not actually true.
It's actually the result of calculated political movements and funding and resources being allocated properly, et cetera.
There were strategy guides literally written.
I think the most common would be How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 1990s was written as a strategy book for how we're going to get America to accept LGBT people.
Well, actually, at the time, it was just gay people.
And one of the ideas was that we need to frame it as love is just love.
It's just the same as a man and a woman wanting to get married.
And it's just like they're victims.
We need to feel bad for them.
These are all political strategies so that America would eventually come to terms with this and so that they could feel accepted in society.
And so I don't think that it's a matter of us all of a sudden just being like, oh, wait a minute.
No, this is like fine.
It's actually just like a calculated movement of basically different apparatuses coming together to push this agenda.
Because if you look at the data from Pew Research, for example, as far as when people are coming out at what year, if that were true, that all of the sudden people are more accepting so they feel comfortable to come out.
You would expect the age at which people are coming out to be about the same as far as the trends going upward.
But that's not what you see.
You see people who are like older and people who are middle-aged.
It's about the same as how many of them are identifying as gay.
But for some reason, it's the younger people who I think it's now one in six are identifying as LGBT plus.
And the reason for that, and you said this earlier, too, you said something to the effect of if gay people weren't natural, then there wouldn't be gay people.
And you've actually sort of proved our point in that because it's true that there is no, you know, natural reason that, you know, gay people would reproduce because, you know, they're not attracted to that and they wouldn't be creating children.
And science has tried and failed over the last 60 years to find what's referred to as a gay gene.
They found some like minuscule correlations with different things.
But ultimately, what the reason is as far as like why this manifests in people, a lot of it comes down to prenatal hormone exposure.
But ultimately, it's basically that it won't manifest without some sort of environmental influence, whether that's trauma, whether that's other mental illnesses leading people down this path.
And so, what's happened is society has continued to push these narratives.
People have decided that, okay, maybe, especially children, that they're confused about things, they're depressed, and they seek identity in these different movements and social trends.
Pornography, for example, is something that leads into this quite often.
And it can literally warp people's sexualities into like this permanent state of being sexually deviant.
So, because I can see you here, so I can even refer to you because I okay.
So, I believe that every and all extremes are bad.
Like, extremes, like right now, we have like Gray completely, uh, completely lost in a completely conservative, religious far right.
And uh, and I also think that I completely far left this ideology where all these trans issues and gay issues, whatever, is mostly mostly about like being trendy and stuff like that.
I do think that right now, things are taking a little bit out of um a context, a context, and we see a lot of young people right now coming out as trans.
And it's probably like the new emo, you know what I'm saying?
I don't believe that everyone coming out right now as trans and and and gay and different sexualities or whatever are 100 real.
I think it's it's just becoming way too trendy because it's it's it's it.
I mean, I mean, it's what is what I'm seeing.
But at the same time, I see some of the people, like for instance, uh, these people, these people here talking, saying that if homosexuality, this, if homosexuality, that you do you really think I pick to be a homosexual and have all this freaking drama in my life and like family drama because I come from a very religious family too, and friends drama and all like that.
Because I was just born at home and I decided one day, okay, I'm gonna be a homosexual.
Let me get into all this type of uh dramatic and miserable life.
No, no, it wasn't like that.
I've always been this way.
I can't change my I can change who I am.
I'm not gonna change who I am just because some guy here is saying that this is something I picked.
You know what I'm saying?
We're trying to do the best that we can.
We have bad people in our community, we have good people in our community, we have slots in our community, we have people in our community who are really good, big winners, who have families who are created empires.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I don't think that, um, like I said, I have a very like central, um, a very centralistic opinion when it comes to that.
And I'm attacked all the time.
I'm attacked by the right, I'm attacked by the left, I'm attacked by huge leftist organizations.
Like, you know, because not everyone can just come to the conclusion that probably maybe we just want to be left alone and we just want to be like everyone else.
Gay people can say whatever they want on the internet.
But as soon as a straight Christian male says something against homosexuality, something against transgenderism, something about genders, then they can get banned in a heartbeat.
But what I can say for a fact is I've watched people call Jesus gay, Jesus racist, which should be considered offensive to you, no, I don't know, Christians, but nobody, nobody cares.
You don't get banned for that.
And then when you go out, like, when you look at the radio station, the Christian radio station said they would not play my song unless I took this is a Christian radio station.
They would not play my song unless I took out the part about the LGBT community.
But they, but oh, one of the biggest up-and-coming Christian artists is some homosexual.
Yeah, I just want to mention to John that I just posted a link in chat that pretty much says the exact opposite of what you were talking about, how gay, gay and trans people choose to be that way.
And I think something that's important to point out with this panel that we did.
He's right.
He's right when he says that.
And I think something that's important to point out with this panel and the other one that we did is while certain actors, whether this gentleman or Blair White, they may not personally believe that we should be deplatformed for speaking out against the agenda, for disagreeing with or whatever.
The problem is the broader coalition in which they operate, which by the way doesn't really like them because they view them as traitors.
They do believe that about people like myself or people like Bryson.
So that, like Bryson said, is the actuality of the situation.
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So while certain actors may not personally, you guys seem that all of us are like that.
And every time you open your mouth, and I have open his mouth, talking about the whole LGBT community in general, you should be like, no, some people, the same thing I'm telling you right now, some religious people are so accepted.
Wait, Let me jump in here real fast, Tiffany, and say just an example.
I know you have your examples too, but a popular Christian conservative group called Focus on the Family, I believe that's what it was, was banned off of Twitter for misgendering.
I believe the new assistant health secretary, which it was a biological man that is claiming to now be a woman and is obese and is now in charge of health policy.
And I know that they talked about this with a man.
Well, what I'm saying is, I think this is what they said.
I'm saying, like, I think they said what I said on a tweet.
I want to Tiffany, do you think I just to just clarify, and this is an honest question and I have have no like, i'm not being maniacal in any way when we bring up this image here of uh, the assistant health secretary, Rachel Levine, um, do you feel like this would be considered female passing or not?
Quick, before this conversation keeps getting like this deep.
So, in my opinion, I don't, I'm not the kind of guy who actually and loves, um, I don't know, judging people by the looks or whatever.
I feel like if they're gonna pick like a secretary of health or whatever they're gonna pick, I don't believe in the pandemic thing, I don't believe it has to be a woman, trans, a black person.
I believe they have to pick someone who's actually um capable and has all the knowledge and they can they and the correct fit for that position.
So, in this aspect right here, because you guys are just like going in a deep looks hole, um, I just believe that whoever should be in a position in the government or any position in general, it should be because what they are capable of and not really because they're a woman or because they want to pound it to minorities or anything like that.
So, you see, like right here, we all have like different views, and I don't think it's just okay to be talking about this um Levine, whatever her name is, um, because I don't really know what her qualities are, or like if she's really, I mean, she has it, she was just accepted, I believe, um, less than a week ago.
Uh, the Senate, the Sene confirmed there.
So, um, I think we should be focusing on what people are capable of for the position they are, they, they, they're about to start, but it's not, you know, no looks.
I don't think talking about looks is a good look for us.
Because of neuroplasticity, no, it's that research has actually been called into question women that like other women, it's not like no, your brain is actually incredibly plastic, which is partially well, actually, by majority, probably why pornography is so harmful.
You want me to find my data that's uh scientific about trans women's brains resembling that of cis women's right because of neuroplasticity, you know, that's a biological component, right?
If you live, if you live your life as like a woman, if you are biologically a man, eventually your brain will start to like manifest that and it will look similar.
That's why it's not because of some genetic component and the manifestation.
I'm not talking about Lupi, I'm talking like this is why that happens.
And if you do the reading, like that's what it will reflect ultimately, which is why that research, by the way, isn't even like in the pamphlets, for example, that are released by like HRC, uh, like these different ACLU, even like they even acknowledge that the research for that is like flawed because of the effects of neuroplasticity.
So, I don't think that like an incredible institution is even backing that.
So, if like what you mentioned, someone who feels intrinsically that they are a woman, if maybe biologically they're male, they feel intrinsically that they are a woman.
Why then do they have to take hormones if they are a woman already?
Like, why would they need to have that non-biological component?
You can't transition to another gender, which is why if you feel like a woman, you still can't go get pregnant, which is why when you feel like a woman, you still have to go get surgery or you still have to go take pills or you still have to go do that or you can't perform or you can't perform in women's sports because you're not a woman.
Why would you act like these things exist?
And this is the problem I have.
When we start giving them the A that it even exists, then people like Tiffany Starr think they have data in science.
All their science is based on nothing because you can't transition into another gender.
Gender, their original definition, was literally based on sex.
I think Ryan T. Anderson, whose book actually just got banned off Amazon because it was very, no, he had a really good, he had a really good book with, you know, the bibliography had like several hundred.
Do you guys think that maybe because of your position right now, so against LGBT and against trans people in general, and it's so strong and be so verbal and vocal about it,
Is the reasons why you guys are throwing some of these people in this group so far left that they are like coming out with like all these crazy stuff and one of the genders and doing the most because you guys actually like put so much pressure and so much, I wouldn't say, pressure most like these big ideas out there that no, you cannot be trans or you can, I don't know, like dress up as a woman or you can identify as this and that, because it doesn't go, because it goes against my beliefs.
Do you guys think that, because of your strong opinions and so um, sometimes a little bit like it could be rude too is why some of the people actually take those um stances on, like going all the way because i'm I don't consider myself one of those.
I do not think that is one of the genders out there.
I do think that probably Tiffany is way too on the left for me.
I think the opposite is true, just because of you and I don't.
I don't think, I don't think Bryson or myself would be against uh or, speaking for myself, I guess I don't think that we're against, like homosexuals or Lgbt people in general.
I think the whole discussion was basically centered around their political movement, which it is um, and I hope I haven't come off as rude because that wasn't my intention at all, so no no, I was talking about you too, but I was referring mostly to Greg.
Like, I respect you, Grey, in the sense, like, I know you're a conservative and I know you are deeply religious.
I could see that I never really saw you before this little debate right here.
But I did see, like, when we started this thing, you referred to me as Pikachu and furry and one stuff.
And just because I wasn't in Halloween custom, I'll let you talk.
And just because.
Just because I wasn't in Halloween custom, and you already started like assuming things about me like right away without even knowing who I am.
And I didn't even know who you were.
Maybe you think that you're doing that with the community in general that you're not even like giving them like a five cents to let them like some of them, not the whole community, because I accept that the whole community can be really crazy sometimes.
But some of them, and maybe I don't know, come to some kind of agreement.
Like, okay, well, you have your way of saying it doesn't affect my life.
Okay, to be fair, you are a meme, which is the only reason I know about you.
You're a meme on the inner right-wing community in the Pikachu suit.
And I genuinely thought you were all the time.
So if I was wrong about that, then I was wrong about that.
And I'll take that.
So I'm not going to lie.
You're mean.
But do not confuse it.
I do not agree with the LGBT community at all, at all, period.
I don't love them anything.
So it's not going to happen.
Secondly, it's degenerate.
Thirdly, I think it's a mental illness, which is why they act the way they do.
Not because of anything I say.
I think it's genuinely mental illness.
And homosexuality was an mental illness less than 30 years ago.
And now, of course, it's not.
Of course, transgenderism is now still considered a mental illness, but all of it is, in my opinion.
And also, the thing is, when you say y'all want to live your life peacefully, that's a lie.
I am in the conservative movement.
I go to these events.
I am personally attacked by the LGBT Trump supporting community all the time.
They throw dirt on my name to the Trump campaign.
All this is facts.
The Trump campaign texted me and said, the Trump campaign texted me and said, Bryson, we can't promote you if everybody's telling us you're homophobic because y'all don't let here the thing.
All this started because I say Bible versus on my Twitter and Brandon Strzok and all of these homos come to my page and have the audacity to think their opinion matters to me.
And it doesn't.
So I'm outspoken about what I believe in and y'all don't like it.
When I say y'all, I'm not talking about exactly you understand y'alls and LGBT people and y'all don't like it.
How do some people, I understand, I understand why some people wanted to bring their, some people on the LGBT wanted to completely bring your agenda to you and try to make your life live that way.
I understand you getting like that.
But how does it affect you?
For instance, people like me, like let's talk about, like, let's just not talk about anyone, like me.
Like, I'm just here living my life, working.
I don't consider myself a promiscuous person.
Honestly, I only work and work out and mind my business with my friend.
Why do you think that my existence is gonna like influence um, your livelihood or your family?
Where I come from?
I lived in Cuba right, and homosexuality, Communism doesn't play around.
Communists don't like homosexual, like you know, and I I wasn't raised in any.
I wasn't raised in uh in, I didn't even meet any gay people around me when I was, when I was a child.
Never, I didn't even see a gay people.
I didn't see a gay show, nothing.
And I, i'm still gay.
So why do you think that uh, this influence thing that you're talking about is gonna affect your family?
I'm telling you right now, it's an experience that me, who was raised in a, in tyranny in, literally in a dictatorship, that I was not allowed to see any of that.
We only have two channels on on tv and it was mostly like Fidel Pastor giving speeches.
So why do you think that I don't know someone working out at the gym when you're working out with your with, with your son, if you have one, is gonna like somehow affect your family?
Because I, me myself, I never, I never saw any of these.
All right, all right Bryson, then we're gonna go 10 seconds, go Tiff, all right uh, so i'm gonna, i'm gonna respond to both uh Bryson and I didn't.
I wanted to ask John something uh, uh.
I just like how uh Bryson keeps throwing around the word degenerate, yet he has yet to establish how Lgbt people are actually degenerate like no no, like really degenerate.
You gave, you gave a lot of feels there, a lot of feelings.
No, it wasn't, it's not.
Uh anyways, I just want to say uh currently, gender dysphoria is considered a considered a mental illness in the Dsm5.
However, there are talks and even plans to have it removed, of course, and some argue that leaving it in would actually benefit the community in some ways, but opinions on split on that.
Additionally, even though that it's still in the Dsm5, the World Health Organization hasn't considered gender dysphoria to be a mental illness since 2019.
No, um uh, I just think it's funny that you mentioned uh Ryan T Anderson as one of your sources.
Uh, someone from the Heritage Foundation who is vehemently Anti-lgbt, as if that's like an impartial uh study where all the studies I am by, like i'm posting a bipartisan.
Also, I want to know what political movement and agenda you think Lgbt people have other than trying to establish rights to be uh on equal terms with everyone else and just live happy lives, because that's all we want uh.
I would counter that question, with what rights Don't they currently have?
And as far as where I'm deriving my material from, you haven't read the book, you haven't looked through the bibliography, you just googled his, I believe that, but you just googled his name and saw that he's affiliated with the Heritage Foundation.
And so to dismiss that just because of his affiliation would be fallacious.
But it's getting to a point where if you don't agree, or I'm sorry, if a child expresses that they are not binary or they are not the gender that they were assigned at birth is the language, it's going to get to a point like it has in many Western countries where the state will step in, consider that to be child abuse and remove the child from the parents' household.
There's an example of a father who actually wouldn't accept his daughter.
I think it was, I might be wrong, but I think it was either his daughter, I think that was identifying as a man, and then he wouldn't accept the new trans identity.
And then the state sort of barred his ability to have custody of his own daughter.
I know that hasn't gotten there in the United States yet that I know of, but I know in Canada, which has, I think, people are much less resistant to the state there, I would say.
You know, there in Australia, I think people are pretty passe on politics.
They have moved in that direction.
And so then kind of going to you, Tiffany, like, do you feel that that is like, where do we draw the line?
This one end on the last question then.
You know, like, where do we draw the line on the sexual liberation movement?
Is that going too far to where the state can remove a father from custody of their child based on the fact that he doesn't accept their sexual identity?
Like, where do we draw the line?
And we'll start with Tiffany.
This is our last question.
So please get everything you want to say out in this question.
If it's just based on what you said, I'm not sure.
I'd have to look at the data.
I don't think, I think that's a bit too far to just take custody of the kid, but I have to see the article in order to know exactly all the details.
So I'm not comfortable saying what I think.
I think I heard about the story and that the father was.
That doesn't mean that he shouldn't have his daughter or son or whatever they identify as, but I still need to read the data.
I do want to say, though, that kid, like young kids expressing their gender identity, you know, it's not like they're being forced to like transition or anything.
A lot of kids will show signs that they could be trans.
And if parents notice them, they usually take them to a professional.
And that professional over a course of a year or two will determine if that child is actually trans.
And even then, they like if they're put on blockers or something like that, even then, if the child decides they don't want to transition afterwards, they can just stop the blockers and they'll go through their natural puberty as opposed to satting them on hormones.
But that's when they're like older.
And we're not talking like seven, eight, nine-year-olds.
This is like, it's not like they're just giving sex changes the kids or anything.
So I don't think they should be stripped away, but I do think that if you're a good parent and you're not a bigot and your kids do show signs, maybe bring them to a professional.
And who knows?
Maybe they're just going through a thing.
I know that there are plenty of young boys who wear dresses and it's nothing to do with like their gender.
They just really like to do it or they'll play with like G.I. Joe's and Bobbies, that kind of thing.
So that's where you would draw the line on this, thinking that state-enforced homosexuality is where we draw the line saying, as long as these choices and these liberties homosexuality, that was trans.
I've just meant the whole LGBT community.
I get all the names sometimes mixed up in my head.
Meaning, like, I just mean the whole sexual liberation movement, including heterosexual promiscuity, is like we draw the line to where it's the state getting involved, but when it goes in just personal liberties, personal freedoms, then it would be you would consider that just to be overall a net positive.
Okay, hormone blockers, you got to give them pills.
Um, so if you listen to that and I didn't discuss you, then something gets wrong.
But the problem is, we should have been drew the line.
The problem is, we've let, like I said, in the beginning, we gave the LGBT an inch, and now we're here, and we only can blame ourselves because once you allow one type of degeneracy, which is homosexuality, and act like that's normal, then all of this is coming.
Next is pedophilia, then maybe BCLI.
That's already started.
Actually, it's called zoophilia or something like that.
And I'm talking, um, and that's that's where we're heading currently.
So, if you like I said, if you listen to that and you're a Christian, I blame you because you haven't been standing up to the homosexuals.
And now, you got people like this telling you that you should give your kids hormone blockers and try to force them into something.
First off, they can't be another gender.
But one thing that trans people do a lot is kill themselves.
So, if you, so they're already mentally ill, and all you're gonna do is make it worse by giving them all these pills and things like that.
So, if you if you listen to this, you think any of this is okay as a Christian, I'm questioning you, and you need to look into the mirror, Elijah.
With parental support, the rate at which trans people attempt suicide is cut down to 1/15th out of like 40%, 1/15th, which is still above average, which is still above average, way above average.
Wait, 1/15th out of 40%, 1/15th, yeah, that's still above it.
All right, so I keep my um centuries position on this debate.
The first thing I want to say, because I think this is our conclusions, right?
The first thing I want to say is that there is a new wave of young Republicans and socialists coming these times, these last years.
So I feel like it would be so good for our country if we could actually put all this energy against like all the communists and socialism taking over the United States.
Because you know what?
Like, what are we going to do if they actually, like, if they actually take over the United States?
What are we going to escape to?
Because I already escaped to the United States.
What am I going to escape to?
And you're wondering, why are you talking about that when we're talking about like, you know, all this sexual thing?
And it's just because I just don't see really the point and the point of being all this hate.
Yeah, I'm going to call it hate or like probably, I don't know, discrimination too, a little bit about like people who are just think different than you and stuff like that.
First of all, we are in Canada.
Whatever is going on in Canada, Canada is kind of like a lost case.
In the United States, I completely stand for the freedom of speech, even on social media too.
Everyone should have their right to say whatever they want, even if it offends me, or even if I offend someone, I should also have the right to say whatever I want.
And I just think that we could just be a little bit more united and honestly defend the interests of this country and this nation and what we are going to be from now on.
And honestly, dude, yeah, like I said, I stand for freedom of speech.
And if some things bother some people or whatever, it's just, I mean, it is what it is.
Freedom of speech is always going to be there.
I'm always going to be anti-communist, anti-socialist.
I'm always going to be like understanding of religion of deep religion, religious people, even though like some of them don't understand me.
And to finish this on a good term, I'm actually very happy to say that these years, the polls show that the majority of Republicans support gay marriage.
So this is something like something that is just going to keep going better, whether you like it or not, Greg.
And you and this message for Grey, even though like you are a religious person, I really hope you find God one time in your life or something and gives you the opportunity to see the good on all the peoples and not only receive the bad energy that you receive from so much.
This is just the view.
This is just the view of Gay right now.
And just, you know, and lets you like, I don't know, be more open-minded and be just more happy with yourself.
I think that there's a reason that trans people are disproportionately represented with substance abuse, with depression, with adjacent mental illness, with suicide attempt rates.
And it's not because they're bullied.
And this can be most clearly reflected through two things.
Right.
This can be most clearly reflected through two things, one of which being that if you look at the propensity of people who are being bullied just generally, their suicide rate is much lower proportionately than I can give it to you.
Right.
And the difference for that would probably be that they are suffering from adjacent mental illnesses and the same thing with the future.
So there was data that also showed that trans people who say that being trans has had no negative impact on their quality of life, their baseline suicide attempt rate is still 33%, which is disproportionately higher than the average population.
So there's that.
And as far as drawing the line, I don't remember exactly what the specific question was, but I did want to respond to what the guy said because he was talking about our purpose as a nation being that we need to be against the communists and be against the socialists.
And that's all good.
But as a nation, very few nations throughout history have survived and propagated and maintained prosperity by being against something.
We need a purpose and we need to be for something and we need to have an actual idea of what our imperative is in the 21st century.
And right now, we don't have that.
We're basically doing whatever we want and thinking that our unified purpose can be that we have nothing in common except that we're all consumers in this grand shopping mall that we have.
And I don't think that that's sustainable.
And I think that we're witnessing the deterioration resultantly.
I'm going to cut you guys all off here because we could say a lot of stuff on this.
And I'm really excited to get this out tomorrow when it comes out.
But honestly, thank you guys so much for coming on.
Honestly, Tiffany, JC, Bryson, John, I know you guys have a lot more you guys could have shared, but this is the kind of conversations we need to keep having.
And I realize, and I call this conservative TMZ because I think we're past the point of having fully constructive conversations in society.
I think whenever sides come together, it's a little bit of drama, but it's a lot of fun.
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