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March 19, 2021 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Death of the Western Man | Guest: Jack Murphy | Ep 137

Masculinity is now illegal in some Western countries, and the attack on the traditional family gets worse by the day. Jack Murphy, author, podcaster, and founder of Liminal Order, discusses how we can fight back against the attack on men and exposes the evil intention behind the destruction of the Western man.

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The age of Western male dominance is over.
All across the West, we are seeing changes in policy to help women get ahead while crushing masculinity.
As we just saw, Sadiq Khan Mayer of London said, by the way, guys, misogyny will now be recorded as a hate crime.
That's true.
Of course, misogyny, if you look it up, a simple dictionary search says it's just a dislike of maybe women.
So apparently you can no longer be a gamer in the UK.
And this sort of anti-male rhetoric is spreading across the world.
And it's here in the United States.
This is the death of the Western man.
Obviously, we have a problem today with masculinity and defining what it means to be a man, specifically a Western man.
And this is a conversation that nobody really wants to have in the mainstream media.
But of course, we're going to talk about it here.
And you may have already noticed, I may not be the best example to talk about supreme masculinity.
So I brought in somebody else who is Jack Murphy, who is the founder of Liminal Order.
He's an author and an amazing podcaster who's breaking out all across the scene.
Jack Murphy, Master Beardsman, welcome to the show.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Happy to be here.
Yeah, I really, I really appreciate you being here because if you could bring my screen up, Savannah, you know, we have a really tough challenge ahead of us right now, trying to define what it means to be a man.
And the dictionary really doesn't help us because if you look it up, it just says that a man is an adult male human being.
But unfortunately for us, we are in a society right now where it has never been more important to actually define than what it means to be a male beyond just biology, but also into what it means in the family, what it means to be in the values and the quality of life and the leaders of this country.
And that's why I want to bring you on to talk about that.
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And in that note, let's bring on the man of our dreams, Jack Murphy.
So obviously we are in a problem here, and I want to talk to you about this.
If you can see here on my screen, we are in a crisis on defining what men are.
Now, Elliot Page, I believe, which is the new name for the previous person, Ellen Page, is the trending topic because the society says that we can change ourselves just through surgery to become the man that we always want to be.
I mean, this is where we're going to begin.
And what do you think about this?
Wow.
You know, this is quite a story because it really is the focus point, sort of the last battle for the culture war.
And if we back up and chunk it up, you know, much higher, like really zoom out.
The reason that the trans issue is so important is because the radical left, the Marxists, the social justice warriors, critical race theorists, et cetera, they have as a goal what they call the queering of society.
And what that means is they want to destroy the boundaries and barriers that we have erected as a way to create identity.
They want to destroy the boundaries and barriers between genders so that there are no sexes.
They want to destroy the boundaries and barriers between the family and the rest of the world so that they're, you know, so it takes a village.
And so it can, you know, the Black Lives Matter theory of disrupting the nuclear, the nuclear family.
They want to actually even destroy the boundaries and the barriers that we have between countries.
All this is done to just destroy individual identity, to break us all down, to give us, to sort of unanchor us from reality and create a sense of chaos so that they can offer an alternative solution, which, of course, is collectivism and state-run society, culture, and economics.
And so the trans issue is something that I find difficult to be involved in because I, on one hand, believe that adults should be able to do whatever crazy thing they want to do to themselves.
Go for it.
I support it.
I really do.
I do support individual expression and individual choice.
In fact, I want the government to leave me alone just as much as it sounds like you do there, Elliot, or I'm sorry.
I think Elliot is the correct name now today, whatever they're going by.
Yeah.
So, but the idea here is that this, the trans battle is a battle in a larger war of queering everything and of eliminating all boundaries and all barriers so that we just explode into chaos.
Yeah, I think you bring it up very, very perfectly.
I think that there is a war on malehood, on masculinity.
And even in this incel community that we're seeing developed, we'll get into, there is this attack on all things that make us who we are.
Because if they attack the men, then they weaken society.
If they can weaken society, they can literally, there's nothing to stop these elitists, these people who want power from implementing their insane globalist elitist tactics.
And I want to talk to you about this with this story.
So, right, because on Time magazine, they put this picture up.
And I got to say this, and I'm not attacking transgenders, but this person does not look well.
They don't look physically healthy.
They do not look mentally healthy.
This looks like a depressed, pre-pubescent, somewhat eating disorder-challenged individual who listens to too much, you know, as I lay dying or something like that.
I mean, this is not a holistic person.
And I think what's interesting is that that's where the categorization that we're being told to men is that the only thing that can make you a man, what defines you, is the fact that you are self-defining yourself, meaning like there's no standards anymore.
So it's just that like, if you want to wear clothes and do your hair in a short haircut, now you are a man, but there's nothing else more to that.
And it's like, this is a sad part.
If Elliot, this person, feels like this is the road to becoming a man.
I don't know whether we're supposed to call it a he or a she or they.
I don't really care about the pronoun argument.
But I got to say, like, what kind of example is this setting for young men, even for young women, on what kind of men they're supposed to be?
They're supposed to look for?
Well, again, the big battle here, the big war is the fact that all societies have been oppressive.
All societies have been patriarchal.
Therefore, the patriarchy is a source of all oppression.
What is the source of the patriarchy, but male power?
What is the source of male power?
Masculine energy.
So for these people to conclude their struggle against destroying our society and our culture, they have to take aim squarely at masculine power, masculine energy, masculinity itself.
And that's not just speculation on my part.
This is in the literature.
You can read it.
This is what their goal is, is to destruct and deconstruct masculine energy so that it has no more power, so that it has no more power.
Now, Elliot does look sick.
That person looks sick, emaciated, unhealthy, pale, unhappy, miserable, shoulders up, not back, not a proud position, not your typical man's up, shoulders back, chest out, you know, confident display.
And you bring up an interesting question about who determines whether or not you're masculine.
I got, I had a huge thread a few weeks ago about who determines whether you are masculine or not.
And I argue that it is other men.
Other men are the ones that determine whether or not you are masculine, that you've earned your place in the masculine hierarchy.
And you do this through demonstrating honor, courage, loyalty, mastery.
You do this through being a builder, a protector, a provider, an instructor, a creator.
If you exhibit masculine energy and you turn around and there's people following you in whatever you're doing, then you are by definition a masculine leader.
If you say that you're masculine, you say that you're a man, but you look around and no one agrees with you, no one's following you, and you're not moving up the male hierarchy.
Well, then sorry to say, but you just haven't earned your masculine stripes, which are only conferred upon you by your peers.
In contrast to femininity, femininity arrives.
There is a moment in a woman's life where femininity arrives.
It is given to her.
It is a gift.
Men, on the other hand, have to earn their status.
Masculinity comes through action.
You know, and I actually agree with that because to kind of bring it personal here that makes me kind of bring this up.
Like you see these pictures here of Elliot Page, right?
And I bring this up because it shows, they're trying to show, well, look, Elliot Page, or previously known as Ellen Page, sometimes wore boys' clothing.
So therefore, Elliot is actually a man, as if somehow like putting on garments are what make you into actually being somebody.
And I bring this up because, you know, like my whole life, I was severely bullied.
I think bullying, I'm not going to get into that now, does play an important role in toughening up weak men.
I think there's a level where, you know, adults should cut things off because they become actually abusive and long-term detrimental rather than helpful.
But, you know, I was always abused.
I was a scrawny kid growing up.
Then I got chubby.
Then I got scrawny again.
I just did a lot of drugs, kind of a weird guy, still a weird guy.
But I've also noticed too that, you know, as I got older and I got tougher and as people and the pressures of life sort of strengthened me to become more resilient, especially even more recently, as I've started putting, you know, myself out there, started entering into dangerous situations.
Like I didn't ask for anybody to respect me.
I didn't change the direction, but I noticed my audience started growing.
I noticed that my, you know, my writing started getting more traction.
I started being invited to appear in movies, one with you, by the way, which is a link in the description, a really amazing film that we were in together by Lauren Southern.
And even more films coming up.
And I go, well, what was that that changed that?
And the constant thing that I get is like, hey, look, man, you've really proved yourself that point.
You've proved yourself by your actions that we can trust what you have to say because you've shown yourself to be somebody who has character and persistence.
I'm not puffing myself up.
I'm not that great.
I just mean it's interesting that that being said, is that as a man, you don't gain that respect.
You don't gain that privilege.
You don't gain that place in people's minds until you go out and you do something out of the norm, until you represent male characteristics.
And yeah, I have a high voice.
Yeah, I'm a little bit camp, whatever.
And I dress a little metro.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Not to mention the colors of my studio, which I'm going to change, guys, by the way.
Audience, I don't know how we ended up with the bisexual transgender flag.
I don't know how I asked for aqua blue and fuchsia and I got the bisexual flag.
Anyway, that being said is like I have seen that and experienced that for myself.
And I think that that's the problem with a lot of men in our society because society is feminized to prevent natural male behavior from ever taking place.
So men can never learn, earn, or become what they were meant to be.
Well, the first thing I noticed when I saw you on camera here is your traps are getting big.
So, you're obviously not too scrawny or chubby anymore.
You're looking a little bit yoked there.
And that's a sign.
People can see that, right?
Because power manifested is masculine energy.
And you're absolutely right about what I call demonstrated acts of courage.
And that is something that I have found to be the most powerful way to build a following.
Not that that's why I ever did these things, but when you do demonstrate acts of courage, when you're out there in the field, when you're showing yourself to be courageous and bold and risk-taking and competitive, and when you want to build something, create something, when you want to demonstrate your mastery, these are the ways that people find you and want to be, you know, follow you as a leader.
And I'm not talking about in some weird demagoguery kind of way.
I just mean like, you know, we do all need leaders in our lives and we all do follow and pay attention to people based on their performance, based on their demonstrated masculinity in this case.
And I am not surprised at all to hear that your audience is picked up and the energy behind you is picked up after your crazy summer, which I followed.
I saw you all over the place in some of the craziest, hairiest situations around.
I too found myself in similar situations, getting shot in the throat by rubber bullets and tear gassed and assaulted by Antifa and the whole thing.
So I totally get where you're coming from.
And it's funny because if you truly are just living out your values, if you just embody your values, well, first, if you're able to even understand what your values are, and then have the strength by which to embody them, you turn around and you'll find there'll be people right behind you following you, feeling like you're authentic, feeling like you're real and actual, because you can't fake action.
You can't fake mastery.
You can't fake courage.
And when you do it over and over again, that's how you earn your status in a masculine hierarchy.
And I'll point out that they don't ever want to let men have these opportunities anymore.
They don't want to let boys have opportunities to demonstrate their courage and their skill and their masculine power because, you know, competition, competitiveness, risk-taking, aggression, these things have been labeled toxic as mental health issues by the APA, the largest mental health association in America.
And now the AMA as well, the largest medical health association in America, they both are on the woke train 100%.
Our doctors, our psychiatrists, our psychologists, all of them now are thinking: A, everything is corrupted by racism and mass and misogyny and masculine power, and we need to eradicate it.
And today, it's counseling it out of you, you know, through therapy and shame.
Soon, it's going to be castration through hormone pills for those who are just too masculine.
And of course, right now, if your 14-year-old daughter says that she is a man and she says that she wants to go get testosterone to become a man, and you say you don't want her to do that, if you live in Canada, you go to jail if you continue referring to your own daughter as your daughter.
Yeah, we have this article here real fast.
I know you brought this up.
You shared this, right?
From post-millennials.
His father was jailed after referring to a biological female child as his daughter.
This is absolutely insane.
Check this out.
There's a man in Canada who can only be alluded to as he who shall not be named, Robert Hoogland.
For the sake of natural justice, it is important to speak this man's name.
He is now the Canadian state's prison of conscience.
The warrant was issued by a judge for the arrest of a father after calling his biological female child his daughter and referring to her with pronouns she and her.
Hoogland was found to be in contempt of court.
He is a father to a gender non-conforming biological female 14-year-old who identifies as transgender and prefers, what happened there?
Oh, and basically prefers to be used by male pronouns and has repeatedly called this person his daughter, though the court has forbade it.
So it's like, this is the attack on the Western men.
Like a father saying, No, for my child, my child is not going to be subjugated to the propaganda of the world.
And even if my child does have sexual confusion, which by the way, there's real problems that happen in development with sexuality.
If everybody wasn't sexually confused at some point, then you didn't grow up.
And I don't mean bisexual or gay.
I mean, if you thought that you were going to, you know, to have 100 harem when you grew up, like King David or something, you know, you're at 14.
And or maybe, you know, some people weren't felt like they weren't very sexually active.
There's a lot of people who thought that something was wrong with them in high school because they weren't interested in sex till a later age.
I mean, people have you figure out your sexuality.
It develops over time.
But that's not to say that if you're 14 years old, that you have any authority in your life to come up and tell your parents what they need to call you.
And now the state is saying that they are more important than fathers.
And I think that's where the argument comes in: the reason why they're attacking and they're trying to kill the masculine, strong Western male is because if he is weakened and he doesn't exist, the only person to take his place is the state.
That is exactly right.
And, you know, if my daughter came to me and said that she wanted me to call her by whatever, we could have a conversation about it.
Maybe I'll accept it.
But I will not accept the government telling me what I have to do with my own children.
I will not accept the government forcing me to use particular words when in my own home dealing with my own child.
And then I would be that guy in jail.
There's no question about it.
I know my personality.
And if the government was telling me I can't talk to my daughter how I want in my own home, I would certainly have pushed that button and made a big deal out of it because I'm just that kind of guy.
But this man seems to be just standing up for what is right.
Standing up for what is right in a time of chaos takes insane courage.
Kudos to that man for having the fortitude to stand up for what he believes is right.
Now, everybody does have some element of confusion.
Hormone mix makes confusion.
It's part of the process.
It is a liminal process, as it were, a transformation, puberty.
And it's hard enough as it is without people on the outside saying to you, Hey, look, you know that confusion you're feeling?
Guess what?
It's going to get worse.
Guess what?
I have the answer for you.
And the answer is here in taking male hormones to turn you into a man.
This is the part of it that gets me the most upset.
The feminists and the radicals will tell you over and over again that there's no such thing as essentialism, that there's no biological determinism, that who we are born, our biology, none of that matters in terms of our quote gender expression.
They will tell you that gender identity is completely socially constructed and it's injected into your brain and you can actually reject it.
They think we can reject the social constructions.
But when it comes time for a trans person to quote consider their social constructed gender identity, the first way that they go about remedying this is by what?
Injecting them full of the male hormone testosterone as if biology is the driver of masculinity.
So this whole thing is filled with contradictions.
It's irrational.
It's unsafe.
It preys on children, all at the altar of destroying, quote unquote, the patriarchy.
All of this, the trans issue, which exploded overnight, like five years ago, maybe all of a sudden it was the biggest issue in America, cover of National Geographic, PR program, all spread all over the place.
All of a sudden, this issue, which affects less than 1% of the population, right?
Keep that in mind, is now been elevated to the forefront of our discourse because it is the last remaining battlefield.
If the radicals can win this fight, then they have successfully obliterated the barriers between men and women, the boundaries that define us, and they will have actually won.
This is the fight.
This is where we have to really dig in because if it goes past this point, I don't see the bottom.
There's no bottom from here.
Right.
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But though, you can't see this.
I'm going to bring this up on the screen and I'm going to try to describe this to you.
So we like to celebrate men in our society right now.
Some men, right?
We used to celebrate certain aspects.
Now, this is a biological man.
This is on CNN.
And of course, they're celebrating that this person named or who calls themselves Lena Bloom makes history in sports illustrated swimsuit issue.
I think back here, this tweet says, what is this?
Yeah, as the first, oh, this is such a mouthful.
The first black and Asian transgender woman to be featured in a swimsuit issue.
So, you know, you look at this, whether you're into black chicks or you're into Asians or whatever.
At a first glance, I mean, you're not going to be able to tell this is a man.
Some of you are somehow are really good at spotting that stuff.
I don't know how much you check out men.
That really makes you able to figure that out.
But there are some features, including the snake hips that let you know this is definitely a biological male.
And our society takes this and says, you know what, men?
This is what's very confusing, the death of the man, saying this is the epitome to become famous, to become respected, to become on the front cover of a magazine is for you to delegitimize your masculinity to not only, not only physically, but chemically,
To castrate yourself, to fillet your penis open, to invert it and stuff it into a cavity inside of your groin, and then to use the tip of your genitals to create a fake labia majora minora and to create a that you know is a mat, like a, just a mashed up form of your former malehood.
And that men, is how you do good, oh yeah.
And also stick these bags in your chest and get, get you some fat adipose tissue, you know, sucked out of your thighs and your butt and injected into your, your chest, and then you, then you can be seen as brave.
That's what real bravery is.
This is bravery, and i'm not mocking people who go through that surgery by gone.
If you go through that surgery, I believe you have gender dysphoria.
I mean, if you're going to cut off your, you know, if you're going to fillet your penis, you really do have some.
You, I believe that you believe who you are.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not against that, i'm on board.
But i'm never going to accept in my society that this is what we're going to tell men.
This is how you become famous.
That's what's screwing people up is that young men have been told that the best thing they can achieve is fame.
And right now there are more young men who want to be youtubers shame on us, but who want to be youtubers than actually want to become astronauts or join the military, or become doctors or do great things or be ranchers or whatever.
And so there's this fame in our culture that is given this femininity of these men who want to, you know, be approved by the world rather than to care about what just men think.
And this has devalued our system to now where the world says, well then, here you go men, here's how to be popular.
Fillet that pee-pee open and that's how you get on the front page of of CNN now, and it's like That's apparently working.
And that's what young men are doing.
I mean, it really is alarming that this is what we worship on the altar of saying this is peak malehood.
I mean, it does, it is a gross male.
It shocks me, though, that we've gotten here this quickly.
Fillet my pee-pee.
That's a heck of a lie.
Fillet my pee-pee.
Well, here's the irony: the deeper irony is this, also: let's destroy masculinity.
What's called, you know, we'll vilify the male gaze, right?
We argue that men shouldn't objectify women.
And then this dude becomes a woman and then goes in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit mag and lays around half naked for the pleasure of men to gaze at her, him, her.
That is some deep irony.
So there's a lot of things that people say, and then at the end, they reveal their own actions, right?
If masculinity wasn't really a thing, if it wasn't something to be championed, if it wasn't something to support, if it wasn't something to honor or respect, or if it wasn't even something that was essential to our development as human beings, then why are you going to go on Sports Illustrated Swimsuit magazine and lay around half naked for men to look at you in honor of the male gaze?
Well, it doesn't make sense.
You saw this?
Did you see this?
Do you remember this?
No.
Do you know who this is?
Is that the makeup guy?
It's the makeup guy, I think.
Steph, are you on camera?
Can you get on camera for a second?
Yes, I'm here.
I'm here.
Yes, that's James Charles.
He's a makeup.
You put that in the script.
I put that in the script because, again, I feel like this is just an example of where masculinity has got.
Where we have men now photoshopping themselves to be pregnant like women, and we are just living in such a time of dysphoria.
And what's going on genuinely?
You know, what's interesting to me is when I was younger, we had, you know, maybe I'm getting into trouble for saying these words.
I'm not saying them pejoratively here.
I'm just referencing them historically.
In the old days, when I was growing up, we had fairies and tomboys.
And these were our versions then of gender non-conforming people, right?
If a girl dressed like a man a little bit, maybe had short hair, was a little bit more aggressive, you know, we called her a tomboy.
And you know what?
I think that they wore that badge actually with pride.
And then you had the guys that were a little more feminine and they, you know, they were called fairies.
And, you know, maybe that was mean.
But the point is that there was a place.
There was a category.
There was a simple process that didn't involve destroying sexuality and biology and rendering biology meaningless and throwing and throwing science in the garbage.
We didn't do any of that back then.
And that's why this is clearly not just a social issue, like trying to help these people find inner peace.
It's more of a political war.
These people are pawns, just like that 35-year-old single liberal girl that you went to college with, who was pretty normal and basic when you were younger, but now she's like, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter.
Of course, Black Lives Matter.
Nobody argues with that.
But this girl that we're talking about, she has no idea that she's a pawn in a larger battle that is backed by communists that want to destroy the country and take away all personal accountability.
They just don't know.
And so there's a lot of that happening right now, right?
There's a lot of people who are uninformed, who just think that some of these things have healthy elements to it, but they've been duped.
They've been duped.
And they're not like us, Elijah.
They don't have time and resources and a budget and a team to research all this stuff every day, right?
And to really understand what's going on and to interview experts and spend years of your life trying to understand.
And then you get the casual participant who's like, yeah, Black Lives Matter.
And oh, yeah, trans is fine.
Sure, of course.
All which sound fine on the surface, but underneath there's a much darker element.
If we eliminate and destroy our understanding of the differences between men and women, we will have destroyed our root foundation for understanding the world, period.
What could have been an earlier sensation in our human experience than understanding that there's a difference between men and women?
Maybe you're hungry, maybe you're tired, maybe you don't want to be eaten by an animal, and maybe you understand that that's a woman and I'm a man and we make sex and have babies.
Those probably all happen right around the same time.
So if you eliminate this idea that there are men and women that are separate, then you also eliminate the need for them to come together in union, which is the point, and then to create something else which comes together in union, which again is the point, and to create the family.
And then the family is the building block of society.
And then your communities become the building blocks of your nature.
So they have zeroed in all the way down to the root issue.
And if they could just destroy this last little bit, then the entire rest of the infrastructure on top of the sexual identity and male-female identities will come collapsing down.
And I think we're on our way there.
Now, I will say that, and I hope people are paying attention.
Tom Brady, for example, there are still some masculine leaders out there, people you can look to and appreciate their energy, their drive, their masculine power.
Tom Brady is certainly one of the few remaining.
The guy's about my age, he's winning Super Bowls, leading teams, going from one team to the next, dating us, you know, living with a supermodel, the whole thing.
Like he's living it.
But then I see today, Captain America, okay, today I saw Captain America is now going to be an LGBTQ person during Pride Month.
There you go.
And, you know, I just don't understand that one.
I don't understand that one.
And let's dissect it a little bit, right?
Yeah.
Can we please?
Because I actually had this in there.
And I'm just going to tell you that this, like, there's already a little bit of a gay element to superheroes that I, that a lot, it's very unpopular opinion, like just men wearing spandex and like getting tights and letting the bolts show.
Yeah, costumes and getting real into like leather and stuff like that.
There's a little bit, but this is like what they just cut off his sleeves, gave him an under t-shirt, some overalls, and was like, yeah, this is what a, this is what a gay, a gay guy would wear.
Well, the little flare kick and the septum ring, which I call the cow thing, the cow thing in the nose.
It's a solid tail there, but there it is.
And the little leg kick and that little, the face.
So what I just was wondering is like, why did they pick Captain America to be the gay one when the alliance of the LGBTQ, et cetera, BIPOC alliance, immigrant, basically everyone other than straight white males, their mission in life is to destroy American society, is to rewrite American history, is to take away the power of our American narratives.
And America was built on masculine energy.
Let's not forget that.
Manifest Destiny is expressly a masculine energy.
And here we are.
They're going to now use Captain America as a way to inject their agenda, but at the same time, forgetting that Captain America is Captain America.
So are they celebrating 1776 America?
I don't know.
Or are they trying to inject 1619 America into this Captain America figure here to explode it, to destroy it, to take away its power?
It's possible.
I really don't know.
But what I don't understand is like why, I just don't understand why someone's sexuality, who they want to have sex with, needs to be this important.
And if they're going to go half-send here, they might as well go full send and tell us he's not just gay, but is he a top?
Is he a bottom?
Is he a pitcher?
Is he a catcher?
Why are you going to leave these things open?
Let's just drill down on that, Marvel.
Come on, just lay it all out there for us.
Hey, I think the four, the forearm tattoo, the forearm tattoo that was poorly done of like that sort of like Pacific Islander tattoo is what gave it away to me that he was probably a top or something because this is at least some dominance, at least some masculine energy coming.
I also like too, how he suddenly became a lot thinner, too.
They put him like from like it changed his whole body frame from being this super Chad buff guy.
And I want to bring this up then.
Like, this is where, I think I have an article here.
This is an old story.
We're not going to get into this, but this is where I want to get into like with this fact of this death of the Western man starting when boys are young and a problem that I'm seeing develop that's going to be very unpopular with my audience, but let's say something unpopular with the audience.
So there's a destructive character that obviously I think a lot of Generation Z is seeing the polarization of a reaction to this where a lot of Gen Z are fully embracing this 1619, this terrible critical race theory nonsense, and they're fully becoming like transgender by like 13.
And I was laughing.
This is no, no hate on the gay people, but I was like, read a meme that was like, Doug, you're 13 and gay.
Like, did you even try to get boo?
Like, how did you, like, how did you decide that 13?
Did you try enough?
Because like, you're 13 years old.
How do you know that you don't like like, and maybe, maybe, maybe that's being like, maybe that's being ignorant.
Maybe, maybe I am being ignorant, but I just thought it was a funny meme anyway.
But you get into this and you realize that there is this whole culture of young people who are like gravitating towards this BLM, LGBT, this totem pull of oppression of how, you know, when I was in school, you weren't cool when you were disabled and black and this and that.
And the more that you get, you're cooler and cooler because you're a victim.
But I would say that there's this pendulum swing of these other people who are a lot of, it's very big in like the gamer community specifically.
A lot of gamers are sort of like adopting this.
You see a lot of rhetoric, like, oh, talking about what's a Chad, a lot of arguing about who's a real man, always talking about, you know, judging every YouTuber who's gay and who's not and who's a real man.
But the problem that I find with this community is because they are not being led by men, it's a lot of just boys and young men that don't have any real leaders or examples in their lives.
It's like when the Bible says the blind leading the blind, and they're kind of hitting the opposite, rather than actually becoming men, they're reacting to this feminization of culture by almost becoming incels and becoming this sort of like negative, toxic sector of society that is very lonely and is still not really dating.
They're not getting married young.
They're not reproducing big families.
They're just still staying single.
So it's like they're not, they are reacting and rejecting the weird sexual perversion, all the toxically feminine aspects of society.
But at the same time, it's like not in a healthy reaction.
And I'm not seeing them rise up as actually being leaders.
And I don't know if you've seen this.
There's not a lot of really powerful young Gen Z, like YouTubers that are out there that are balanced, that are really bringing that energy that the millennials brought.
And it scares me because I'm seeing those two contradictions.
And it's like, I think that the world is crying out then, like, where are those strong men that we can look to that aren't these boomers who destroyed our country, honestly, through failed immigration policies, through wars, you know, in Iraq, we got to bomb some brown people and, you know, at their weddings because, you know, America, you know, like, that's just what we got to do.
And I think these young people are like, they're hurting and they're hiding in a cave of their Twitch streams and their live streams.
And it's like they're looking for an answer.
They're looking for a way out.
But like, what is that way out?
Like, how do they level up and become the men that they desire to be?
That's a big question, sir.
That is a big question.
There's a lot in there.
I mean, the dating market's completely screwed up right now, mostly because women have been able to raise their status financially and professionally.
And when they do do that, what happens then is for women themselves, fewer men become attractive.
So it's not necessary.
We're not saying like women shouldn't make any money or shouldn't have power.
No, what I'm saying is, is women, as you earn more money and gain more power, the trade-off is you will find fewer and fewer men attractive.
And then you will find yourself looking around and say, where did all the good men go?
Well, there is some truth to the fact that men have diminished in quality over the last several years.
Without a strong male leader showing them how to be a man, they have failed.
They failed.
In fact, a lot of them act like they're mothers.
And that's part of the problem.
And no girl's going to find a mother attractive sexually to them.
So we've got two issues.
We've got the men sort of falling apart, and we've got the women increasing their status.
And I'm saying they graduate high school more frequently.
They apply to college more often.
They graduate from college more often.
They make more money out of school in 150, 148 out of 150 metropolitan regions in the United States.
Over time, they accumulate more professional and managerial positions.
And when they die, they control more wealth than men.
So these, all these things about women's status growing, fine, there are consequences in that they're not going to find as many men attractive as they once did.
And so what do we do about that?
It's tough.
It's tough.
For men, what I tell them is you have to just simply become the best man you can possibly be.
You have to raise your game.
You have to raise your status.
And the very first thing you need to do is get your in shape.
You can't be a man, a real man, and be fat, out of shape slob.
Your body is your business card.
It is your entry ticket into being masculine male, into that status hierarchy, and frankly, into the sexual status hierarchy as well.
So if you're not squatting today, boys, get on it right away.
There's nothing better that you could do with your time today than start squatting, start exercise, and start working out.
And after that, these guys need to figure out the actual realities, the biological realities of how things work dating-wise, how attraction works.
Sucking up to a girl is never going to get you anywhere.
Being a bold, decisive man that doesn't care, that will get you very far.
In fact, embrace the Chad meme.
It's a meme for a reason.
I've started to embrace it myself.
I made a meme of me doing a side profile with the word no, and I've just been dropping it in threads around.
But you need to embrace that.
It's a meme for a reason.
Being an incel is a temporary state.
You can improve your way out of that.
And also just keep in mind, I mean, look, the country has decided to not emphasize marriage.
The country has decided to not emphasize even long-term relationships.
The country has decided to emphasize women's fancies, basically.
That is the focus of our society today.
So it is not about building families.
It's not about long-term relationships.
It's not about having mothers and fathers.
And so, you know, to be surprised that there's a breakdown of relationships is to just be uninformed.
It's part of the strategy.
So we have to fight back.
How do you fight back?
Become a better man.
Surround yourself with other men who want to become better men.
Iron sharpens, iron, steel, sharpens steel, whatever the phrase is.
The point is, is that a brotherhood of masculine men is the place in which men can become more masculine, can become better creators, protectors, providers, builders, instructors.
And it is through a brotherhood of masculine men that you can find accountability.
Find accountability because you don't want to look like a kind of cuss on this show.
Yes.
You don't want to look like a in front of your boys.
That's what accountability is, is surrounding yourself with people that have something that you want and then not wanting to let them down.
So this is the answer, guys.
That's why they don't want us to have male spaces.
This is why they destroyed the Boy Scouts.
They destroyed the Boy Scouts and said that girls need to be able to join the Boy Scouts.
While at the same time, the Girl Scouts homepage, at least the last time I checked, says in black and white, it is benefit.
Science has proven that single sex education experiences are beneficial for children.
That is why we have the Girl Scouts.
Funny enough, that same argument is why we had the Boy Scouts, but that argument doesn't hold up for boys.
So it's clear that they're trying to destroy all male spaces.
They're trying to destroy your associations.
They don't want you comparing notes with other men.
This is the biggest objection that there is to quote the manosphere.
If you're familiar with this, it's, you know, it was an internet niche that started about like, how do you pick up girls?
Then it evolved into how do you become a better man.
You know, the reason why people make fun of or hate on the manosphere is because it is a place where men are connecting.
It is a place where men are building community.
It is a place where men are like taking their information from the field, coming back and comparing notes with their boys and being like, oh, that didn't work.
Maybe we should try this now.
It's an iterative process of self-improvement, which is why at the end of the day, the manosphere really just became about self-improvement.
How do you become a better man?
How do you do it?
You need a team.
Masculine, masculinity plus brotherhood equals sovereignty.
And this is what they do not want you to have.
They don't want you to have personal sovereignty.
They don't want you to have political sovereignty.
They don't want you to have sovereignty over your family.
They don't want you to have sovereignty over your own children, as evidenced by what sounds like the most lunatic thing that's ever happened in this world, where a man is in jail right now or was because he called his daughter his daughter.
This is the extent to which they want to corrupt your autonomy and your sovereignty.
No, and I, and I'm with you.
And I, and I kind of to bring like an anecdotal evidence to this too, you know, like I tend to be like one of the strengths that I have in my life.
And I think that men need to know this too.
Like stop listening to the people that are negative in your life that are tearing you down because like a lot of times women also will tear you down.
And like I have a friend who's like, you know, had an ex who just ripped into him and said all of his weaknesses.
And I said, even if they are true, man, don't let those define you because you're on a journey and you're improving.
And that person is holding you to your weakest elements, but your brothers are going to pick you up where you're weak and hold you up to your strongest elements.
That's why you need men because I told him, I go, I go, look, man, that's why when I moved to Texas, right, I moved to a new community.
So I had my wife, which is great.
And I agree.
Like when men say my wife's my best friend, my wife's my best friend, but she can never be that sort of friend like a man.
Just like a man and my men, I can never, you know, have the relationship I have with my wife.
It doesn't mean that you can just have your wife.
So with married men, you can't just be hanging around your wife.
Then we come in.
I get my friend Sidney Watson, who's a great YouTuber.
He should consider having her on your show.
All these people I mentioned are great guests, but she's like, so she comes and Savannah, my producer, moves in and I'm hanging around all these women.
And I tell my friend John Doyle, who's a great YouTuber as well.
I'm like, bro, I need you guys to move down here from Michigan because they were like isolated from the shutdowns there.
I was like, bro, move here because like we got to start growing that male community together.
I go, because I'm going crazy over here because I'm just around women.
And even though I love them all and they're Savannah and Sydney and my wife, Kez, they're amazing women.
They're all beautiful.
They're smart.
They're talented.
That's great.
But I go, there's just something about that.
And, you know, and they came down and I'm telling you, I was sitting last night for St. Patrick's Day.
We celebrated and my buddy John Doyle, he was over.
We, you know, we sat outside, you know, we had a couple drinks.
We smoked some cigars.
We started creating communities where we get together, smoke cigars.
On Sundays, we have Bible study together and we learn about, we're going through like the pagan world in Romans and trying to learn about how to be, you know, men in a, in a pagan world.
We talk about relationships and dominance.
And he's even like, dude, this is so great being down here, like being around other men who are like making good money and out in the world and doing real things and influencing culture.
And I was like, yeah, bro, that's why they did the shutdowns.
That's why they did this stuff.
That's why they cancel people.
They don't want us to just sit together, read our Bible, smoke a cigar, have a drink and actually speak.
Because when we speak, this is like from experience, even now.
It's like you realize, oh my gosh, as a man, I'm not crazy.
I'm not like perverted and insane and messed up.
Like, other men are the exact same way, and we've got to learn to just sharpen each other rather than feel like, oh, we're this like man trying to live in a woman's world.
No, this is a man's world.
And yeah, women live in it too.
But God designed this world for men to be the head of the households and in culture and in society to be the leaders.
Some women are great leaders, but not, I would say, they're not, they weren't designed for that purpose.
Some women are forced to lead homes because men walk away and run away from the relationship or don't continue to raise their kids or for other reasons.
I get it.
I'm not speaking down poorly on women who are in positions or who have made life work or who are eager to achieve something for themselves.
That's fine.
It's a free country.
But I think the promotion is strongest is like when you're just sitting there realizing this is the strength of our country when men come together, young men, start getting together, spend time, have conversations, talk about uncomfortable things.
Talk, don't just talk about sex and you know, asses and tits, like also talk about just like developing and getting a strong sex life in your marriage and your relationship, starting kids, what it means to be a father, how you're going to relate and going out, have guys' nights, have times together with the girls too.
But you know, I'm even planning a vacation with a bunch of friends that we're all going to go out and spend time together and have guys' times, girls' times.
It's like build that community.
And that's what I've been finding personally has been strong in a world that's shut down, in a world that's digital.
I've been trying to bring people together physically, especially men, spending more quality time, just investing into each other and not just on video games, you know, talking to each other while you're playing Call of Duty or Minecraft or something, or you know, whatever games I'm sounding dated, probably.
I have no idea what people are playing today.
I think they still play Minecraft today, buddy.
Oh, yeah, man, exactly what you're saying.
110%, man.
I feel all of that.
I feel all of that.
Community.
Community is so important.
Community, brotherhood.
Brotherhood has in it community, accountability, loyalty, and service.
This is a value that I hold very dearly to me.
Masculinity, again, mastery, honor, courage, loyalty.
You get together with other men and you find accountability.
You find opportunities for service.
Service is a spiritual act, getting out of yourself.
So much of what we face today could be solved if you could just get out of yourself, do something spiritual.
It doesn't even have to be religious.
Something spiritual, getting out of yourself, meditating, being mindful, being outside.
All these things are the antidote to the problems.
Man, I have identified these issues, same as you, and I've gone about creating a solution because as men, we don't just sit around and I am tired of people defining themselves by what they're against.
So, what I decided to do is I started the liminal order.
It is a community of men all across the world.
We have 500 members now with 5,000 people on the waiting list waiting to get in.
Every time we open up seats, they fill up in one day.
We have guys in every part of the country, every industry, every profession, mostly 35 to 55 family-oriented guys.
But all of us have in common the values.
And when you build a community based off shared values, you can do anything.
People started businesses together, social initiatives, recreation.
We have trips all over the country, even in the middle of Corona.
We've got guys going to the gun ranges, guys taking hikes, guys doing service projects, guys doing cleanup work.
The power of community cannot be overstated.
Community makes you happier, healthier, and wealthier.
Science.
That's why humans were able to thrive because we do operate in small collective units around shared imagined orders, which are values.
So, the goal here for the liminal order at the liminal-order.com is the we're creating the antidote to all of these issues that we have described today.
Our tagline is we help men help mankind.
This is the goal.
And so, we're taking action and we're making this thing happen.
And it sounds to me like you're doing the same.
I've met John Doyle before.
He and I talked about doing a collaboration years ago.
And, you know, to the extent that you can build those physical connections and to surround yourself by your boys, that is the past.
It should also be the future.
Just remember, not everything old is bad and not everything new is good.
This is a mindset that we need to begin to adopt.
I think that for so long, many of us believe that everything old was tainted and antiquated, and everything new was improved and better, but that's just not the case.
We are at an inflection point where our new is worse and our old is better.
And we can easily just look back to the past to find the solutions.
If you're familiar with this phrase, lindy, it is a Nassim Taleb term that basically says that if something for if the longer something has been around, the longer it's going to be around, right?
Is there anything more lindy than masculinity?
I don't think so.
Masculinity goes all the way back to the beginning of time.
Masculine energy is how we built our society.
It's why we built our society.
And to destroy the most lindy element of our society today is a recipe for disaster.
So we are Elijah, yourself, liminal order, men like us.
We're basically holding on to a flame.
The flame that fueled our civilization, our development, our expansion, our construction, that fueled all the benefits that people are taking advantage of today, reduction in poverty and women's rights and the end of slavery and all these things.
That flame, they're trying to blow out.
The flame of masculine energy, they're trying to blow it out and we are protecting it.
And there's only a handful of us.
Because if you do this, if you take this position, if you advocate for masculine energy, if you advocate for men, what's the first thing people say to you?
Ah, you must have a small.
Oh, you're an incel.
Men who talk about masculinity are never masculine themselves.
All they do is they just try to chip away at you.
They try to diminish your status.
They talk about your sexuality.
They make fun of you simply for saying masculinity is a positive force in the world and we should have more of it.
So hold on to the flame, guys.
The storm is here.
They're trying to blow it out.
And if they do blow it out, we're dead.
We are dead.
No masculine energy animating our society.
We are dead because there are other cultures out there that understand the power of masculine energy and they will pounce on us when we are at our weakest.
And unfortunately, unless trends change, I don't see this situation getting any better.
No, I agree.
And honestly, guys, on that note, this is Jack Murphy.
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Anyway, Jack, I really appreciate you coming on the show.
Is there anything specific, last word you want to leave to men just to encourage them?
Women that are, you know, obviously even women that are surrounded by men that want to encourage the men around them to be strong.
I mean, what would you tell them to leave them with?
If it ever feels like the world right now is split between masculine men and the women who love them versus everybody else, you're absolutely right.
Masculinity is under attack by design.
This is not Tim Foil hat nonsense.
It's specifically in their literature.
And the rise of masculine energy and this focus on fostering, embodying your masculine energy and then manifesting more of it in the world around you.
This is a natural response to an attack on masculinity that has been foreshadowed for decades, is now here.
And in fact, is almost assured victory for the feminists.
This is a societal fight.
This is a civilizational fight.
This is not nonsense.
We're not making this up.
And the best possible way that you can fight back right now is to embrace your masculine energy, find a woman who supports that and complements that with her feminine energy.
Have a bunch of babies, lots of sons, and teach them everything that you know and encourage them to live their life in the same way as you do.
This is the long-term answer.
And if you want to join us, liminal-order.com, come check it out.
Follow me on YouTube, on Twitter, Jack Murphy Live, everywhere for more content like this, deep dives, wide expansive interviews, come on down there and join me.
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