EXPOSED: The Ruling Class is Planning A Civil War | Guest: John Doyle | Ep 107
BLM riots, looting, COVID restrictions, the stripping of our liberties, it’s all a part of a master plan. There are bad faith actors, both American and international, Democrat and republican, men and women, who are trying to bait nationalist populace players into using force against the ruling class so that they can do away with them once and for all. It’s a trap and a fight they likely won’t win. John Doyle joins me in studio to discuss this insane plot to dismantle America as we know it ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ TODAY'S SPONSOR ⇩ TOMMY JOHN: If you’re looking for maximum support for your manhood, then you have to try Tommy John’s new hammock pouch. For a limited time, go to https://TommyJohn.com/OFFENSIVE to get 15% off your first order.Become a subscriber at BlazeTV https://get.blazetv.com/slightly-offensive/ use my code "ELIJAH" to get $10 off a full year ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ FOLLOW JOHN ⇩ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnDoyle/featured WEBSITE: https://heckoffcommie.com/ ________________________________________________________________ Slightly Offens*ve Merch: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/elijah-schaffer ________________________________________________________________ DOWNLOAD AUDIO PODCAST & GIVE A 5 STAR RATING!: APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/slightly-offens-ve-uncut/id1450057169 SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/7jbVobnHs7q8pSRCtPmC41?si=qnIgUqbySSGdJEngV-P5Bg (also available Google Podcasts & wherever else podcasts are streamed) ______________________________________________________________ ➤BOOKINGS/INQUIRIES: ELIJAH@SLIGHTLYOFFENSIVE.COM _________________________________________________________________ ⇩ SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/slightlyoffens ➤ PARLER https://parler.com/profile/Elijahschaffer/posts ➤ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/officialslightlyoffensive
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And I think that that guy who poured the water onto that poor guy without a mask probably thinks he's the good guy.
But why are these things happening?
Have you ever asked yourselves why we're turning into a culture of shame for not putting a piece of cloth on your face?
You ever ask yourself, where did BLM go?
Where did the Black Lives Matter movement, the movement of our century ago?
How about the public support for Antifa?
Why did that stop all of a sudden?
Well, I have a theory, and I think it's that we are being honeypotted into a civil war.
I think that civil war might be the only option going forward to redeem the republic for many people, but I think it's a trap above all else.
We're talking about that and a lot more here on slightly offensive, the best, worst show on Blaze TV.
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So you've obviously probably heard a lot about the idea of us having a civil war.
People keep saying 1776 will rise again.
You know, and people keep crying out.
Obviously, you're heckoff commie.
Even talk about the fight against communist takeover, against the left-wing takeover.
Before we even jump into our evidence for this supposed civil war that I think we're being trapped into, do you think we're headed towards a civil war?
I would actually be curious to hear your theory first as to why.
Just to kind of give my analysis of it, I guess I would say that I don't think a civil war is likely in that I don't think that the right, broadly speaking, has the infrastructure or the organization to ever pull something like that off.
If anything, I think it would basically just be like a backlash and something that kind of fizzles out pretty quickly.
What I think we're heading towards, more precisely speaking, would be a form of government-facilitated anarchy where they selectively enforce laws against people like you and I, whether that's because we're going to church or because we're defending ourselves in a self-defense situation against Antifa or Black Lives Matter rioters, and they would put us in jail for that.
But they would also enable those people to behave in those ways in the first place.
And what that would do is effectively displace us as the people who care about the country and the people who care about getting her back in whatever capacity you would interpret that in, to basically make us impotent and unable to do that in a real political sense without even getting to the point where it would be like an arms deal or a civil war type situation.
But you never think that maybe the civil war wouldn't be between states, but it could be just a populist movement against, let's say, the government that's in place that ends up getting backed up by NATO, for instance, by the UN, ends up coming to keep peace.
And they look at it as a rebellion or like a coup, like an uprising, but it's really just these factions of people.
If you look at like the history of the Civil War, right?
It started with small skirmishes like we're seeing in 2020 in these riots.
We'll talk about a little bit about this.
I think that people, a lot, a big portion of Americans believe a civil war is possible.
I don't know if it actually is going to happen, but my point is, is that I think that we are being trapped, or at least a portion of right-wing people and American-loving people are being trapped and instigated and honeypotted into trying to start a civil war.
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It says, it's funny how once the election cycle came to a close, BLM disappeared again, proving once again that their sole purpose is to help elect Democrats.
It has nothing to do with helping black people.
Everyone who fell for the scam should feel pretty stupid right now.
So this is a loaded statement, but this is where we're going to start off.
I guess that would have been back in, what, February or something?
Because it was actually, if you look at the timeline of the whole thing, it was actually a right-wing position to be skeptical of COVID and to be, I guess, sort of anti-China when it first started.
But then once the data and everything started coming in, our side became the side of like rejecting that.
Whereas the left had initially started out by saying, no, don't close the borders.
That's xenophobic.
Trump is making this into a big crisis to instill fear so that he can help his reelection prospects and things like that.
But when it first happened, I mean, I had maybe met a few dozen people.
So if I get it, I get it, but I wasn't too afraid of it.
But I remember that everyone thought that that was a big gotcha moment.
They were, you know, pushing articles around like, oh, look what they did.
They endangered public health because they had to have their little CPAC event and stuff like that.
And then obviously shortly after in like March or whatever, we started seeing these Black Lives Matter riots that started.
And my initial thoughts when I saw these things were, this is orchestrated by design.
I mean, there's no way that cities in the United States of America are being burned to the ground systematically around the country at the exact same time without somebody in power allowing this to happen.
Why do we have to, a lot of different group chats that you're involved in?
And I think you have a better understanding of the structure of these different systems than I do, especially because they've literally put hits out on you before, which is incredible.
But we haven't seen that actually in Michigan.
Our police department did a really good job in Detroit, for example, making sure the city didn't burn down, which was a victory because everyone always likes to make Detroit be the butt end of everything.
Well, that's actually the problem is there was stuff to burn down, as a matter of fact.
And basically what's happened in downtown, at least for the last 30 years, is we've made something of a comeback in what they would refer to as the gentrified area.
And so for 30 years, you've had kids that grow up in Royal Oak or Dearborn or the suburbs of Detroit.
They go downtown for Tigers games or something.
And then they always hear from people like you, Detroit sucks, Detroit sucks.
And so those kids are now in the Detroit Police Department, in the riot squad.
And I saw their faces out there like, no, we're not going to let you burn this stuff down.
So this says here that when George Floyd died while in police custody in late May, most agreed his premature death was a tragedy.
Oh, correction.
I said March earlier.
It was May.
Yet the discussion on criminal justice reform that emerged in the weeks after Floyd's passing was quickly overshadowed by rioting, looting, and violence.
So dozens of people were killed.
And it says here that as Axios reveals that the total insured property losses were between $1 to $2 billion.
However, Brad Palombo goes down to say that the arson and the vandalism and the looting will result in at least one to $2 billion of paid insurance claims.
And if you go down, you actually look at the money that was brought into this, you know, that's only through June 8th, according to this costliest civil disorder.
But, you know, if you go down past June and there was a lot more riots that went on, I covered.
I mean, I make a living off of it.
The damage was absolutely enormous.
I mean, did it, did what did it shock you watching all this happen?
Especially from Detroit?
The fact that your city looks like it had a continual riot since like 1960?
No, it didn't really shock me on, I guess, a national level because I don't think, like with what you said earlier about the Civil War, the Civil War happening back then was significant compared to now in that we were more unified in the sense of everyone still agreed on things like, you know, basic religious outlook, the Constitution, fundamental rights, things like that.
There's nothing under which we as a country right now could unify that just doesn't exist.
There is no common culture or language or religion or anything.
And so we're very polarized right now.
And so when you look outside and then the culmination of that is that everything's on fire, it didn't surprise me at all.
I guess it was shocking to actually see it happen, but as far as the evolution as to like what got us here, it wasn't surprising at all.
And so, yeah, like we said earlier, I think it's like 40% or something of the country, 30, high 30s, think that we're headed towards a civil war.
I think more Democrats than Republicans with the recent data just because they're under President Chido, Orange Hitler.
And so, I mean, I guess it could happen, but I just don't think that the infrastructure is there for either side to really pull something off.
And I also don't think the people in power want it to really happen or would enable it to happen.
I think they prefer to keep us divided to kind of have control over us and to literally drain wealth from us and pad their own pockets.
So if we look at this, this article, this is more than one month old, it's telling me from The Guardian.
But okay, so this movement happened, right?
And we agree it was costly, but it was also costly in terms of human life.
The most hypocritical and ironic part about this is that 25 Americans were killed during the protests and political unrest, which is like approximately double or about double the amount of unarmed black people that were killed by police that people were protesting.
So like the riots themselves not only didn't accomplish anything for black people, it didn't accomplish anything for the country, but it also was did the opposite effect.
I believe it actually made the country more racist.
This is going to come across wrong, but from talking to a lot of white people, I feel like people that I knew that were very actually liberal and open and like never had a problem with race relations and people are actually hyper aware now of their interactions with people of that of darker complexions.
Like meaning, like I'm not going to say who, but a lot of people I know who feminists, these people walk around and are like, when I'm around black people now in public, I think that they think I'm racist and they hate me.
And I feel like I have to watch my words.
And I feel like this has created greater racial division.
And when you look outside and all your cities are on fire, like it makes you very aware of the sort of tribal tendencies that people have and how this can be exploited for political purposes.
Like even when they say black lives matter, like that is a reference to the value of lives.
But when they say black lives matter, that's a political statement.
And they politicize those deaths because their value is not that they are human beings or even that they're black human beings.
It's that those lives right now are political capital.
And that's the value that they have to use to forward their agendas.
And I think what's weird about this movement, though, and the reason why I think this is the first step of like why I say a honeypot is because I feel like when I say honeypot, I mean I feel like it's like the interview.
Yeah, yeah, no, it really is.
But I, but this is a political term is that I sense that there's this movement to try to eradicate the power of the national populace.
Like, I don't want to get too conspiratorial here, but you know, I have this theory that I've looked at throughout all of history is that, you know, global elites, for instance, people in power, the bourgeois, are always in this weird predicament of like, how do you hold enough power so that you stay in power?
But then how do you give enough power back to the people that they don't depose you?
You know, they don't like forcefully move you like you saw in the American Revolution or in the French Revolution.
So you have right centuries and centuries, perhaps millennia of these empires fighting against one another.
This was the bourgeois of different empires taking over and this usurping of power, the next high class.
And then, you know, you move on and you have this enlightenment and you have the development and they overthrow the bourgeois and then you have the development of the nation state.
And the nation states become allies and then these basically become their own empires, right?
Like the Third Reich and the Western world and the Eastern world.
And now they fight for global dominance.
Well, that didn't work either.
Two world wars later, even a Cold War, and we didn't get anywhere.
So what do we have to do?
We have to create a one-world government.
We've got to come in a way where we distribute the wealth of the world into a few countries like Western Europe.
I mean, we'll give some to China now, Japan.
We'll distribute the wealth of the country of the world here.
We'll retain our power here.
We'll try to unite the world together.
And we will also give the people a capitalist structure, a way to feel that they get some of the wealth as well.
However, I believe that when Donald Trump was elected, that he wasn't supposed to be elected according to the global plans.
I think that he is not a globalist.
I think that he is a populist leader, even if he's a rich man.
And I think that not only was it not enough for these global elites to make sure that he wasn't elected by using dishonest means like fraud and irregularities in the election, I think that they specifically have to do more than that to remind the populace that they're in power.
They had to destroy our economy.
They had to put totalitarian laws in place.
They had to demoralize us.
They had to do more than that because they were like, maybe we gave the people too much power.
They feel too free.
And it was like a slap in our face.
It's like literally a dick slap across the face, just like telling us for all of history, maybe we gave you guys too much power.
And in the end, your constitution doesn't even matter.
Your capitalism doesn't matter.
We can do whatever we want.
And that's what we're saying today.
Maybe that's a far-fetched theory, but that's my theory.
No, I think that we're actually kind of saying the same thing in a sense with as far as how they displace and they demoralize people like us, like the populist types who care about the country and want to see what's best for or it.
And even the people with whom we disagree, like they have now made it so that they will mobilize the opposition against us by convincing them that we are literally Nazis and the most hateful people ever.
They will then rationalize violence and enablize that on their platform or enablize that.
Enable?
Yeah, enable that on their platforms.
But then they'll deplatform people like us, me and your producer specifically.
And so you guys both got kicked off of Twitter.
Not even for anything cool.
Like, I don't know if I, yeah, 10 minutes ago, you said you get kicked off of Twitter.
I got kicked off Twitter because I told people to call their representatives.
We shared Google Docs with the names and phone numbers of state representatives and we said, hey, call and encourage electoral integrity.
And then a bunch of leftist streamers forwarded their audiences to mass report those tweets.
And then there was like an automated ban.
And then they lied.
They further said that, well, John Doyle was actually banned because he was doxing people.
That's in reference to something else that I tweeted that evening, which was evidence that there were dead people voting in the precincts in Detroit.
And then it was a very blurry image.
And you could kind of make out the name and address of a dead person.
And so they, well, no, he got banned for doxing.
That's not true.
Email that I received said it was for spam and harassment because of those tweets specifically.
And like with the theatrics of all of this, right?
Whether it was Black Lives Matter and pretending to care about Black Lives.
Can you go to my screen real fast, Sav?
Right.
The end result of all this was not only more people dying, but like, look, as we defunded the police, carjacking is up 537% amid Minneapolis City Council plans to further defund the police.
I mean, this was a complete joke.
I think that this was made to destabilize not only race relations in our country that I think were improving vastly before this point, but to create a distrust amongst cities.
But I think that even more, the global elites came in not only to suppress our trust with each other, but like their propaganda is so blatant that it's actually bad.
Like just watch this clip.
This is so effing ridiculous.
This is a real clip and I got it from a feminist page and I put it up because I couldn't handle this watch.
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Well, according to a new survey, 38% of people in this country are planning to celebrate with 10 people or more in their house.
Well, it psychologically conditions people to think that I don't even have to address this idea.
Look at, I'm hearing this laughter.
Look at John Oliver.
He's British.
That means he's smart.
Like everyone is just kind of like conditioned to think that these ideas are not even worth addressing because they're laughable and they get conditioned into that mentality.
He's very effective at what he does as far as propaganda is concerned.
But yeah, people think that they're immune to propaganda.
Like a right-wing John Oliver in a way, not in a propaganda, but like if you, this is what's so funny, is like people say that you're propaganda and he's not when you're really telling the truth.
Yeah, and have you ever have you ever noticed this?
This is two factors that I want to get into about this demoralization, the way that they've weaponized media between the two between the two parties that they've kind of basically created a false reality to the world, not only through Black Lives Matter.
That was a complete sham movement, not only through COVID, which we're going to talk about about some of the hypocrisy, but also through the media.
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So once Black Lives Matter didn't work, it didn't trigger enough people.
It did its work.
We've moved to this next stage of the coronavirus, which still didn't work.
And we have this clip I want to play before we jump into this from LA Mayor Eric Garcetti.
This is just absolutely surreal.
Let's listen.
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Good evening, Los Angeles.
Thank you.
Hey, Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said the next three months are going to be the most difficult in the public health history of this nation, largely because of the stress that's going to be put on our healthcare system.
We're beginning to feel that stress here in Los Angeles.
So in the end, if he says, I don't know why that was so long, it was just supposed to be the part where he says, so in the end, we've got to cancel everything, including walking.
He canceled.
I'm not even joking.
Most forms of walking have now been outlawed in Los Angeles.
He came in and said to people, look, if you're not tired of your cities being burned, if you're not tired of losing your job, we're going to show you how much power we have.
And here's Dick Slap number two.
We're going to come right into your face, bring that right up to where it hurts.
And we're going to show you that we have the power to tell you what you can or cannot do, even to walk.
And to me, I feel like this is something that is intentionally being done, not to fight a virus.
I don't believe any of this is being done to fight a virus, which we'll talk about the media after this.
I believe that the response to COVID was meant to destroy small business, demoralize the population, and to make us apathetic so that they could rig the election.
It was, I think, probably one of the greatest transfers of wealth in the history of the world.
If you look at what's been done to small business and how the net worths of Jeff Bezos or whichever one of these CEOs from these mega corporations has gone up, it's probably, I can't think of in our lifetimes, a greater human rights violation that we'll ever see than this whole shutdown thing.
I mean, even like we were talking about before we started, we started going about the deaths of despair that have happened because they've shut people's businesses down and just taken their livelihoods from them.
And we're being told that it's okay because grandma, like, ostensibly will be kept safe or something, even though she still has like a 97% chance of surviving.
So it's just totally disgusting.
And it was totally done to demoralize people and probably even for the election, you know, with mail-in ballots and everything that we've seen there.
This is the same guy who told us we need to cancel everything just a couple months ago at a BLM rally in Los Angeles without a mask on back to theatrics.
I mean, this is my point is that this is how you know the COVID response and BLM response were connected.
These were strategic reasons, I believe, to make people hate each other, divide each other, and to just stop caring about the real demon in the room, which is the elitist class of people, which are trying to reset the country through the great, the Great Reset, through the World Economic Forum, through the UN Agenda 30.
John Kerry actually just said the other day that Biden is working in complete conjunction with the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset to greatly transform the landscape of American society and the economy.
And these people are doing it at the cost of us.
Why?
Because they don't care about us.
And ultimately speaking, which we'll get into, I believe the reason why you go, well, in the end, aren't they afraid of people rising up?
Aren't they afraid of small factions?
Well, I don't think they're afraid of a statewide civil war.
But I think that ultimately speaking, that I'll have more evidence for this.
I think that they want people to revolt.
They want the populace to revolt because if we actually end up revolting, they can finally do away with the leaders who are problematic.
They can finally do away with them.
Meaning, right now they can block you, they can ban you, they can shut down your office, but they can't arrest you.
They can't shoot you.
They can't depose of you entirely.
But if they can get people to completely feel like they're in a place of desperation, that they have nothing else to do but to fight, that's exactly the best way to honeypot the people that they need to get rid of in society and remove them in a global coalition to get rid of those who are opposing the new world order.
Not necessarily what, you know, Alex Jones talks about.
Maybe it is, but specifically speaking, this idea of this new globalized, homogeneous world where everybody's gender fluid, your kid is trans, Christianity doesn't exist, and we are all working towards this hedonistic, amoral society where a utopia where we are cashless and we all move into peace.
And I think that the only thing that's standing in their way are these populous Americans that are just like cancer because they got rid of the guns in Australia.
They got rid of the guns in New Zealand.
But during our problem, we sold 17 million guns since March.
And that's the thing, especially with men, when you take away everything that a man has, like you're going to push him to a point where he realizes that there's nothing or not at least a whole lot that he has left to lose.
And at that point, something maybe could pop off.
I don't think it'd be sustainable.
I think probably more realistically would be something like you've prophesied, it would be used as an excuse to arrest people, to execute people.
We think we're immune to that as the right.
We like to point in, oh, they executed the political opposition in the USSR.
That's going to be us.
That's me and you.
You have already had threats against you, like credible threats.
I've had a few, but like, that's a legitimate thing that we have to think about for our future.
My dad has a small business too, and he was shut down because of stuff like that.
And they're so out of touch.
That's really what it comes down to because they've never actually worked.
Like they claim to represent the working class, more specifically the minority working class, because they don't like the white working class.
They don't.
They think they're uncultured.
They think that their ties to family and community and country are archaic.
Like they wouldn't go through, like, I was going to say a town like close by.
They wouldn't go through like Appalachia and see working class white people having a barbecue and waving American flags and be like, yo, you're one of us.
Like that's not who they actually claim to represent anymore.
They've never worked a job like that.
They've never had experience with small business.
They don't know what that is like to not only just have a bad month or a bad quarter, but for the government to say, you actually can't run your business and we're not even going to bail you out having locked you down in the first place.
It's just like such a betrayal of the American people.
No, but is it like this is where I'm not, I'm going to watch my wording because I'm not going to self-censor.
I'm just saying like, I'm not asking anyone to do this.
I'm clarifying.
I'm not asking anyone to shoot their leaders and stuff.
But just looking at the history of the country, right?
I mean, I know that it's not enough to say that really the Boston Tea Party was really about the tea, right?
If you really look at with John Adams and what was going on in that time and you look at the illegal quartering of troops and you look at the some of the massacres that had taken place, where they had shot some young men in the streets of I think it was in Philadelphia and you really look at what's transpired, obviously the tea was more of like a tipping point.
It was like F you guys like we're not going to do this.
Yeah, but when you look at the tipping point here, when you look at where the American people feel, nobody has felt this pain and this deposition from the government more than the American working class.
Because even speaking now as we go forward, you know the only recovery like Biden's recovery plan is to help black working class, is to help Black people.
It's always to help people of color.
But what about the white working class?
What about white people?
There's an entire war to demoralize white people, I believe, to honeypot your patriot, American-loving, hardworking person into feeling like the government is now their enemy.
Because I think they want to get rid of that patriotism, that nationalism that still is inbred in the white communities.
And people might say that that is a racist thing.
Yes, it is racist.
It's racist from the government because the global elites don't, people don't realize they don't look at things by Democrat and Republican.
They don't look at things by black and white.
They look at things by who holds the power and who's the threat to the power.
And so when you have people like Dan Crenshaw talking crap on Lynn Wood last night, it's like just two days ago, I was warning everyone about Dan Crenshaw and the way that he's connected to the World Economic Forum.
And people in the comments are like, Dan Crenshaw, what's wrong with Dan Crenshaw?
Then his two colors show last night where he's like, don't follow Lynn Wood.
Don't follow these people that are trying to stop the steal.
Don't follow any of them.
I'm the real G.
And it's like, dude, are you freaking kidding me, Dan Crenshaw?
Like, just because you're a veteran doesn't mean that you're a good for the country.
In fact, he's on their list on the World Economics Forum's list of leaders that they are behind.
Yeah, they, and that's the reason they don't like white men.
That's why white men are like the demographic that they go after with their media and their institutions, because just the way that the country is built historically and demographically speaking, those who have the most invested and those whose roots are deepest in this country that would have the most on the line and I guess the most that they'd be willing to sacrifice for are white men.
That's just the way it is.
Same way that if you went to China and you wanted to like usurp power from China, you would go against the Hans or whatever.
And so that's just the way it is.
And so as we become more of a majority minority country or head towards that, the white man is going to continue to be vilified so as to, like you said, demoralize and crush any chance of them trying to reverse the trends in this country of demoralization and vice and hedonism and all that stuff.
And I think, I think that that's where like people don't realize that it's not just a war against white people.
It's a war against the values of this country.
Yeah.
The national populace, which includes those are ingrained in the white culture.
That's why they brought in, I believe, they had the immigration shift in the 60s and the 80s, which I completely disagree with.
Not because I'm against people of color or whatever they say, not because I'm racist, but because I'm against letting people into our country who didn't come on merit, who didn't come because they loved this nation.
I love Cuban people in Florida.
I think Cubans are awesome.
I think that they hate communism.
I think that they, in general, they love the country.
They statistically vote more populous.
You can't control anyone in America.
I also think that the Cubans who don't vote populist and right-wing are because of the indoctrination towards Latino people, trying to tell them that they need to vote, you know, Democrat or whatever to get ahead.
But it's like, I think that the attack has been going on since right after World War II in our country, and it's been trying to get us to become a member of the global system.
No, that was a strategy after World War II that was passed around in a lot of different intellectual circles, basically.
How do we avoid it?
And I understand it.
You know, if you see that level of destruction on a mass scale, I mean, countries just torn apart.
The strategy was basically, or I guess the question was, how can we avoid something like this ever happening again?
Never again was the phrase.
And so they decided, and people wrote about this, like Karl Popper, for example, with the Open Society and its consequences, which inspired George Soros' Open Society Foundation.
They wrote about this, that if you can take away from a man his ties to nation and culture and community and family and things that might compel him to take a stand for something, you can avoid that mass conflict because if nobody has anything for which they're willing to stand, they're not going to be willing to fight for that.
And so there will never be conflict.
They did the same thing with truth, for example.
They wanted to have a modest opinion of truth in the sense that, well, I have my truth, you have your truth, but we're just going to kind of agree that those are both different and subjective so as to not have conflict.
So we can't agree on an absolute morality because if we differ, then there's going to be conflict.
And that's why, you know, you watch speeches with people like Ben Shapiro, for example, and he'll talk about subjective truth and things like that, talking about, well, the left is now doing this.
The left has been doing this for 70 years and it's just now kind of coming up to bite us.
And we're realizing that some of the people that we promoted, whether it's Hayek, for example, Hayek was somewhat adjacent to Karl Popper or Popper himself, who I guess would be classified as like more of a liberal, who some conservatives might want to defend as like a classical liberal.
Like these are things that have been going on for 70 years.
We're talking about, well, I like the liberals.
It's these leftists that are the problem.
The last 10 years, they just took it too far.
We're hesitant to acknowledge that what we're seeing now from the left is the culmination of a very logical and traceable progression of ideas, like you said, since after World War II.
And I think that one interesting thing is, is, like you said, where this is where like the fight comes over of like, well, what do we tolerate and what do we allow?
And I think the people are rising up.
We, we have, there was a Manhattan bar in Manhattan, New York, that was shut down.
And there was a viral video that they called people to rally.
And if you weren't aware of that, basically they used 40 officers to shut down a bar that was following social distancing, following masks, which apparently aren't working nationally.
People say that if you have 80% compliance, that it'll work.
Well, in states, like I think the highest rate right now is in Illinois, which has some of the strictest measures, have the highest rate, and they are extremely strict.
I've been in Chicago a lot in the area, and they are sky, they have the highest like daily numbers right now.
It's crazy.
So it shows you that maybe it doesn't really work.
Maybe that, not that there aren't ways to prevent this virus, but ultimately speaking, that's not the way to do it.
But don't believe me, just look at the numbers for yourself.
But obviously, people are waking up.
They're buying.
They're seeing what you're seeing.
They're going, I want America back.
And look at this site.
I mean, this is so beautiful.
Do you see that?
I mean, that is like, they came out in massive support.
And they're just saying, by our actions, we believe that what we are being baited into is to accept a country that isn't what we know, what we love.
And unfortunately for us, though, I will say this: this is where, like, I really hate the infighting of people like, what's a real conservative?
What's real right-wing?
I go, you know what?
You can keep fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting.
But I'll tell you this: we're down to the line here.
This is down to the constitution, down to the rights here.
You are at a point where you might not be able to argue very soon about what is or isn't a conservative because you might not no longer have a point, uh, a place in the public square.
You might, and people are already finding that the people who are complaining the most are already getting kicked off of pretty much every platform.
You're a moderate person, you're getting kicked off a platform.
I have a minority producer, she is a woman, and she's what are you, Filipino, Filipino, sure, something.
She's something mixed that makes her skin darker than mine.
And she gets kicked off too.
Meaning, we're not in an argument about women's rights and gender rights.
We're at a point where the people in power are flexing.
They know they're in power.
They don't give a shit about you or me.
They don't want us to get ahead.
And people, they want us to be divided.
And people are busy there fighting each other of who is going to have power of what?
Of the losing side?
It's like being the smartest person with Down syndrome.
I think like I do a lot of like calling out what I think is fake conservatives.
So I guess I would just ask, where do you draw the line between grifting and just like that kind of unnecessary infighting?
Like, do you think it's necessary to call out people who are profiting and taking up volume in the discussion with conservative politics that could be given to people who have like actually productive and helpful things to say?
I mean, yeah, sure, but I'm not really talking about media.
I'm talking about the fact that like people are saying, oh, I'm saying because people are saying, oh, what's a real conservative?
Well, I'm saying, well, in the conservative party, even if you want to know, that guy might be a real conservative, but he's a global elite.
That's what I'm saying.
The argument's wrong.
You're saying these global elites, like George Bush is a global elitist.
He doesn't matter if he was conservative.
It doesn't matter if he had policies against transgenderism or gay marriage or whatever he had.
In the end, he got us into all of these proxy wars in the Middle East.
This guy is just pandering to conservatives by saying, Well, yeah, I mean, I'm a Christian guy, go to church, you know, here in Texas.
I'm just a normal person like you while he's playing to the global elites.
My point being is that people are arguing about who's really conservative and who has the control.
Well, we're the laughingstock because while we're busy fighting each other and calling each other out, the global elites are in complete power of the right-wing party.
They run the GOP, they have not backed the populace.
They've pulled out all support for Donald Trump.
We've watched them mock us, telling us, just accept the Biden presidency, just accept it.
This is not real.
You saw Ben Shapiro the same night of the election, like calling out Trump, like, you know, oh, you're very, it's very, what's it called, like, irresponsible of you.
My point being is, dude, you, you're like very conservative.
This is not a conservative show.
This isn't, this is just a show about life, liberty, the America.
I mean, you can even find some of his old Facebook posts that take issue with a lot of things like that.
I do think it's interesting that you brought up the kind of Ben Shapiro-esque, like, this isn't how a president should behave.
Like, there's almost this tone deafness among some of the top people on our side who fail to recognize that one of Trump's greatest qualities is that he doesn't speak like a politician.
Like they almost have this fantasy about what it means to be a politician, to be so sophisticated, to speak with such a high verbal IQ and to have that appearance.
They don't understand that that is so divorced from the average American and the average working class family that that is why Trump won and why he deserved to win because we are so disenfranchised and disillusioned in this country with the way the power has been taken from us and the way that our leaders have sold us out on both sides, especially like the Bush family, the Clintons, all those people.
And that's why we put Trump into office as literally a middle finger to that system.
And that's why you'll see pictures of Obama, of Bush, and of Clinton all buddy buddy at a baseball game, but you'll see Donald Trump by himself.
He will never be in that club.
And they might even go after him.
They might even prosecute him after he gets out of office because of that, just to let him know and to let other people know in the future that you cannot challenge that power.
I mean, like, look, we're even talking about Dan Crenshaw or Ben Shapiro elitism or these things.
I happen to, you know, respect Ben Shapiro for who he is, but he went to Harvard.
He's an elitist and he speaks like someone who went to Harvard, right?
There's this sense of, I know what the country needs.
And that's what I hate.
And so sometimes what it comes down to is like, yes, if you want me to start listing off people on Instagram that like just basically sell t-shirts and that's like what they do by saying things like black and white people can get along.
Yes.
It's like bullshit.
That's so stupid.
Like you total griff.
If you want me to start calling out organizations by name that really do nothing, oh, believe me, I have a lot.
But the reason why people say, well, why don't you do that more? is because my fight is way bigger than that.
It's like, I don't, I actually don't care about that organization because that organization is, yeah, maybe that organization or that person or that person is stupid and I think they're dumb.
This is the bait to get us divided and to look at each other.
It's like, no, I'm going after the red meat here.
I want to know who are the players, who's fighting for this country and who's not.
I don't care if you have if you're a bit different than me, if your views are different.
When we get control of our country, then let's have that talk.
Then let's have those debates.
Then let's hash it.
But right now, we're losing.
We're losing badly.
We don't have control of our states.
We've lost most states in the union.
We don't have our liberties right now.
We are losing control of our businesses.
We have lost control of our economy.
And we might have lost control.
Maybe if even if the Georgia elections don't go right, we could lose control of all of the houses, the house, and everything except for the judiciary.
My point is, is I'm in war mode, but I don't want to get into a civil war because I think they're trying to call people into a civil war to fight to get rid of them.
I'm going, I want to actually be out there and fight.
Why am I going to waste my time, you know, talking shit on Turning Point USA and Prager U and stuff?
Why waste my time there when it's like, when it's like, yeah, I have the leader of the Republicans, Dan Crenshaw, that's being pushed by the World Economic Forum to create a new generation of globalist-minded individuals who want to stay in wars overseas, want to accept rigged elections.
Like, that's what I'm concerned about.
I'm not concerned about whether someone has a stand with Israel speech.
And it's like, you can't do anything with that person.
They have been brainwashed by decades of like Fox News and talk radio to where like that's what they think the problem.
If you went out and you handed out a pocket constitution to every member of Antifa and Black Lives Matter, they would just be like, oh, wait, you're saying that I can pursue happiness?
That's just it.
Like it just clicked just now.
And that's just not at all what the problem is.
It's fundamentally a problem of identity and of social issues that we have become so polarized irreparably on.
And if you don't capitalize on the right-wing momentum, they're just going to walk all over you.
And then you won't even have the Bill of Rights anymore.
It'll be gone.
Not only in terms of like them eliminating those rights effectively, but like they'll take it out of the national mall.
It'll just be gone.
They won't have it in DC anymore.
They will amend the Constitution.
They will create a new document.
They'll say, we need a living, breathing document finally this time.
And can I say, because obviously when people are going, some people are going to write in the comments, like, oh, or backlash, like, oh, no, we should be calling people out.
Here's my explanation for that.
Why I'm saying, yes, I don't give a shit.
Call anybody out you want.
Good, do it.
My point being is this.
People are distracted, like calling people out in media because it's like, well, they occupy space and they're influencing people.
My thought process is, I want to know and call out the people who have so demoralized conservatives and the right wing to the point where they're literally getting all their talking points and ideas from these stupid influencers.
Like, why are the people so stupid that they're trusting these Instagram influencers for their version of what conservatism is and what life is?
Meaning they're attacking like the pro like the byproduct, the symptom of what I'm fighting.
Meaning, it's like, well, that Instagram influencer is just showing her tits and she just has American flags.
And that's not, she's a grifter.
Yes, she literally is.
In fact, a lot of women do that.
You ever heard of women taking advantage of situations for monetary gain?
But, like, that's like a conniving method that a lot of women have used to survive throughout history.
Men and men, some men too.
But my point being is: like, people are like, you know, but there's all these stupid people in conservatism that are just grifters.
And this, yes.
My question is: who's following them?
They're grifting because people are following them.
Why are people following them?
Because they believe that this is what conservatism and politics are.
Why are they so stupid?
Like, I don't follow these people.
I don't give a crap what they do.
They're irrelevant to my thinking in my life.
Books, articles, understanding of the world, trying to perceive it is a personal mission.
I'm a populist thinker.
I want to get out there and see what's right for myself or the country, for my own family, and I want to live that individual life.
This is a symptom of American culture.
And who's doing this?
These are people who are in power who have degraded the education system in our country.
They have degraded the social system in our country.
They have got us addicted to all types of vices and things, put the priorities of what American values are.
They've eradicated them.
And so now, yes, conservatives and liberals are very similar in the fact that they're just both blindly looking to stupid celebrities to tell them how to think, and they're not really thinking at all.
And so it's like, why am I going to waste my time with some stupid idiot with 600,000 followers, you know, on social media when it's like, I want to, I'm, I just need to know why 600,000 people are listening to this person.
I think that even you being behind the desk right now is symptomatic of your interest in those things and as far as like following things and kind of tracing the money and your interest in because people fundamentally like you're always going to have that where people follow somebody in mass and they probably don't even know why they're following them.
I think the problem is that they're following the wrong people, not necessarily that they lack the agency to like really be out there doing the same research that you and I probably do, because you're always going to have that.
The problem that we have in this country on the macro with like the elites or even on the micro with conservatism in general is that the people who are pulling the strings hate us and they're taking advantage of us.
I think we're always going to have that hierarchy there.
And I don't think that everyone is going to be able to take that level of interest in politics and kind of form their own opinions.
I think there's always going to be kind of a trail and someone that people look to.
And yeah, I'm just going to take all my opinions from them.
I think the problem now is that the people giving those opinions are grifting or they're dishonest or they're doing so maliciously to kind of subvert what it means to be a conservative and kind of redirect 90% of them.
I literally just like read articles, show videos, and talk about things and present what's going on in the world and what things are and just kind of disseminate information and let people think of themselves.
I'm actually a little more, I'm actually like, I'm not even going to say I'll say it.
No, I'm saying I'm actually pretty, pretty, pretty far right wing in general.
Like I know it's, it's, but, but see, the point is, the show is intention is not to get everyone to be right wing.
I'm very happy with the fact that a lot of people from diverse political spectrums watch this show.
Why?
Because I think that world events disseminated with truth and with conviction are enough to change people's minds.
And that's what the point of the show is, right?
I consider the show to be like a marijuana of political shows.
100%.
This isn't heroin.
You're not going to sit here like Jordan Peterson for like four hours and die because you heard so much information, but you will come and you'll get a consistent look on what's been going on in the world, what's happening around you.
And I want people to feel the freedom to think for themselves and to wake up.
Why?
Because ultimately speaking, and I'll tell you this, sadly speaking, I've got, I've seen the same BS from the right wing recently as I've seen from the left wing.
Just people that are just grifting, changing, fighting.
And while they're over there doing their own things, getting mad about, you know, like it's like, what's it called?
Like the left wing's like, oh, what's your gender identity?
How do you label yourself?
The right wing's like, what kind of conservative are you?
I'm like, no, I don't care about what you think you are.
I want you to see the potential of what you can become.
I want you to realize that your labels do not define you, that there is a truth, an absolute truth out there, that there's a way that not only that you should live constitutionally, but there's a moral truth for God.
There's a Bible.
There's a transformation of the gospel in your life that you can change for the good.
And that I want people to take control of their own lives.
Meaning I don't want to disseminate, like, here's, you need to think like this, which is, I appreciate people like you because you help me understand the world in terms of like ideology.
But it's like at the same time, you're rare because you're one of the few people that does it without being elitist.
And so many people on the right fail to realize that, which is why I'll always come to your defense because you represent, like you said, kind of a laid back.
We're just going to talk about the world.
And even I know that what got you interested in this was you saw like social justice warriors and you were like, this is interesting.
I'm going to cover this.
And so someone that might be off put by the explicitly like left-wing commentary that we have, they stumble across your channel and you're just a guy, you're vibing, you're just covering news stories and stuff like that.
But you're not going to, you know, recite arguments and try and get people to think about things a certain way.
And so that can introduce people in a very friendly manner to like right-wing politics as like a right-wing person.
And your opinions are de facto right-wing because of how leftist everything has become in the last 30 years.
And so it works really well to bring people like to our side.
It's like, hey, you can think about something like this and not actually be a racist or a sexist, where someone like myself kind of has the same strategy, but with a more explicitly right-wing framework.
Like my job or my strategy, I guess, is to kind of appeal to a broader spectrum of conservatives and try to bring them more to what I would regard and what I believe is more authentically conservative.
And I have the, you know, people on the left call me a boomer LARPer because I have a set, a set that, you know, has like World War II propaganda, the authentic M1 Grand, the intros in black and white.
It's like, you know, 1950s porn, basically.
And so it's like, that was all a strategy because it's like, what do conservative, like, if I had to pitch to a conservative focus group, like what gets them all the most excited?
It's like that type of stuff.
And so I pitch this wide net.
I get people to watch my videos and then they're like, oh, I never thought of it that way.
And so I can kind of bring people and cement a more like authentic conservatism.
And then they go from there.
It's like a butterfly effect.
And that all has great utility.
And so I get crap for that because I'm a boomer LARPer and, you know, I appeal too much to old conservatives or whatever.
They don't like my branding.
Or you get crap for that because you're like not here and reciting like talking points from Russell Kirk and stuff like that.
Most Americans are just reasonable people and they're just trying to do what makes sense.
And a lot of times even what's pure on the outside isn't what makes sense.
Meaning you could be like, isn't it true that you should live with your parents till you're 22, then get married at 23?
And then, yes, but that's not how life actually works.
So a lot of people are living in the real world.
They don't sit behind their computers and play video games and live stream and do bullshit like that.
They're like living in the real world and they're forced into these situations and they're trying to understand how to understand the world in a real applicable way.
It's just like when pastors are like, you know, no, no sex before marriage.
Yes, the Bible does say no sex before marriage.
That is true.
But when you approach a young man or a young woman who's in a relationship having sex outside of marriage, they probably and they know that.
It's like, well, what's this, what's going on?
Let's really talk about exactly what, why is this happening?
How do we move into a position where you can remedy this?
You either should work to break up or you should try to get married.
You got to answer questions.
You got to take people for real, where they're at in their life and present to them reality, not present to them, you know, hype dreams and hopes that, you know, that they somehow adopt some pure form of what it means to be an American.
They go on to the real world and they're like, oh shit.
Like it's kind of like the left-wing agenda.
Online, it's like, here's how the world really works.
Everyone's transgender and fluid and you get in the real world to a job and like they don't even care about you.
The right too often fails to sympathize with people.
And I would blame that on libertarianism because it basically, so much of our dialogue assumes the perfect ability of the individual.
And you can see this with economic decisions, for example.
And that's the thing.
Libertarianism makes so much sense on paper in the abstract.
It flows so logically, but then you apply it in practice.
And that's just not how human beings work because it assumes that human beings are fundamentally rational, for example, in terms of economic decisions.
That's not true.
Or even like what you're talking about about like social behavior, for example, things that we might regard to be immoral.
Conservatives would say, hey, you're not supposed to have sex outside of marriage.
You're not supposed to do this.
Or, hey, your dad died.
And so you're like, in you're struggling to pay the bills for your family.
And, you know, you just need to work harder.
It's just like this, this idea of like, I can sit here as someone privileged.
And I know that's a buzzword in the right, but someone who has privilege, someone that says went to Harvard Law School, someone that's always been making over six figures or something like that.
And they can be like, well, you should just work harder.
And it's like, true.
However, do you understand like the slope of difficulty?
Like for you to say that to somebody?
And maybe that is true.
But if the other side is selling them, no, you actually don't have to work harder.
We'll just take care of you.
Even if that's not necessarily the noble thing to do, that's a more attractive message to people.
And there's nothing noble and there's nothing conservative if conservatism is defined as that which conserves the American society.
There's nothing conservative about not caring about your neighbor.
There's nothing conservative about, well, I have my problems.
Like I've talked about this before too.
Drug addiction is a problem.
Pornography addiction is a problem.
You should take interest in your neighbors and make sure that they're doing well.
Well, why is that my problem if they're doing that?
It's like, because they're your countrymen.
Like, what do you want to do?
What is your point of being an American?
What does it mean to be an American?
Like, you just want to sit here and dwell like it's almost a pod and you just occupy this space and you've got your guns.
You've got your subscription to black.com.
And this is what it means to be an American.
This is why Washington crossed to Delaware.
That's not what it's about at all.
It's about establishing those bonds as a community.
You do have to sympathize with people and understand that human nature is fundamentally flawed.
And that's why I think it can largely be blamed on libertarianism, not only because of the philosophy, but also libertarianism doesn't put as strong of an emphasis, if an emphasis at all, on religion.
Whereas traditional conservatism would like understand that man is flawed.
And because of that, you can't just pitch ideals to them.
You actually have to understand that man is flawed and he's going to do things that deviate from those societal ideals.
And you have to be willing to work with them.
Like you said, like, okay, if you guys are fornicating, you should break up or you should try to get married or do something.
You don't just condemn them and say, bro, you're not a real conservative.
We should throw you off a building or something.
You have to work with these people, symptomatic of the fact that you love them because they are human beings and because they're your brothers and sisters or fellow countrymen.
I think that most of you guys are really, really, really cool and up and up and all this stuff.
And you love the variety of shows.
I mean, like Tim Poole is definitely like a fence sitter.
And he's a friend of mine.
I love him.
I think his show is great.
Lydia's producer is a good friend of mine.
And, you know, I think that there's a lot of room in the space for that.
I think that there's room in the space for a show like this that will challenge and look at things and try to understand things.
I have, I don't, can't tell you how many liberals watch the show and say they became right conservative from watching this show.
And it makes me so, nothing brings me greater joy than finding out some of you guys have left transgenderism.
You've walked away from sexual confusion because you realized that this show opened you up to other ideas and it put you down the rabbit hole.
I love that.
And for the casual listeners too, but if you guys want to go a little bit deeper into understanding really what it means to hone in your right-wing ideas into conservatism, there are people out there that are not toxic that the left would say it's toxic, but they really read and they study someone like John Doyle.
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