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March 13, 2019 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Trump Is Not That Bad | Social Exp #2

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elijah schaffer
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elijah schaffer
Love Trump, hate Trump?
unidentified
F ⁇ Trump.
elijah schaffer
Alright, that's one way to say it.
What is up then with people thinking that LGBT community persons cannot be supporters of Trump?
unidentified
That's just stupid.
elijah schaffer
What do you guys think?
I'm white?
What?
Did you just apologize for me being white?
It's pretty much a jackass thing to say, but whatever.
unidentified
What about you?
elijah schaffer
You think Trump is better or worse?
unidentified
I'll just say this.
CNN is fake news.
elijah schaffer
We got a truther here.
Josh Peck was right.
Welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
We are here at Cal State University Long Beach in Los Angeles, California, letting students know that, hey, Trump isn't that bad.
I know there are some negative things against him, and fair.
We'll concede that to you.
But don't forget about all the good things he's done, too.
This is a non-partisan event, just trying to raise awareness that Orange Man is not bad.
So this, this thing, it says Trump's not that bad.
Some people think he's evil.
Some people think he's a god.
What's your take on him?
unidentified
He's a horrible person.
elijah schaffer
What's up?
unidentified
Trump.
elijah schaffer
So yeah, so what do you think?
You think he's better or worse?
unidentified
Worse?
elijah schaffer
Can I get your opinion?
Just, all right.
Trump, what do you think?
Anything other than Trump or nah?
unidentified
I'm not, well, I'm not really impressed by anything he has to say.
To be honest, I think some of the things he says are offensive by calling some countries whole countries.
I was obviously offended because I'm from some of those countries.
So I don't really like his rhetoric.
If I had to be honest.
elijah schaffer
I'm from America and I'm not offended if people call this whole.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Well, I am.
He's just a person, but I think he's doing a great job so far.
I hope he gets re-elected in next year.
elijah schaffer
Trump's not that bad.
You think that's a true or false statement?
Wait, can I get your opinion on that?
I honestly want to know.
unidentified
What?
elijah schaffer
Well, that's really sad.
I don't want to, that's hard to do.
I don't have a big enough f ⁇ ing.
unidentified
Well, you're trying.
elijah schaffer
You're deliberately being a troll.
No, I'm literally asking your opinion.
Right or wrong?
No, we don't all know.
You clearly don't.
All right.
Well, I'm a closeted heterosexual anyways, so my wife might be pissed if there's a guy f ⁇ ing me.
I like the guy.
Why do you like him?
That guy just sig hailed me.
That guy was weird.
Why are you going to hail Hitler in the middle of school?
He's a weird guy, man.
Isn't it weird that they're like, he's, I know what he's insinuating, as in, like, we are like Nazis, but then at the same time, he's the one sig hailing Hitler.
Yeah, strange guy, man.
But you know, like, National Socialist, right?
He's a socialist, right?
unidentified
So.
elijah schaffer
That guy's a national.
Well, yeah, that would that, Zach, do you know that guy?
Is he a socialist?
unidentified
Pretty sure, yeah.
elijah schaffer
What about some of the good things?
Could you name three good things he's done?
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
Prison reform, record low unemployment rate, defeating ISIS.
unidentified
I don't think he's responsible for any of those.
I think he inherited that.
elijah schaffer
Being more Obama, it's Obama's plans than he inherited it?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, why does he not get the credit for the good things, but then he gets blamed for the travel ban?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Because Obama made the travel ban and then he put it into effect, even though Obama made it.
Why does he get blamed for being racist and Obama doesn't?
unidentified
You're saying that Obama initiated the travel ban?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, all those countries, that was a full plan drafted by the Obama administration, and then Trump had implemented it.
Do you guys know Trump's not that bad?
Run!
Run!
It's a picture of Trump, go!
unidentified
scared um that was really that we actually got scared Did you see that?
elijah schaffer
Wow.
I didn't say he's that good.
I just said he's not that bad.
You know, his policies have really, I mean, not that this would even necessarily matter, but they've largely affected beneficially minority communities, especially black communities, with the recent prison reform, right?
That was massive and huge.
First president in many administrations to do any reform that helped lower sentences for nonviolent crimes, low drug offenses, which really affected black communities specifically.
Lowest unemployment rate in over 40 years in black communities.
Highest home ownership rate ever in black communities.
I mean, there's over 4 million people off food stamps.
I mean, it's like really cool.
And $800 billion as well back into the pockets of retired minorities, especially black people in those communities that had been robbed.
So a lot of his policies have helped communities, like specifically minority communities.
What's your opinion on the guy?
You think he's alright?
You think he's terrible?
unidentified
Yeah, I think he's kind of terrible.
elijah schaffer
That paper you have right there is a bunch of accomplishments that Trump has done.
Have you ever seen those?
unidentified
I've heard of them.
elijah schaffer
Do you feel like defeating ISIS is bad?
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
It's not that bad, right?
Let's just concede and say everything that you think that is bad is bad because it's your opinion.
It's not, you can't be wrong for having an opinion.
What about any good things that he's done?
unidentified
I'm not that educated, so I'm not going to say anything.
I said, I go by his rhetoric.
I don't know that much about his policies.
elijah schaffer
Do you feel like a president is defined by his rhetoric or his policies?
unidentified
Both.
elijah schaffer
Well, how do we know him if we only know his rhetoric?
unidentified
That's a good question.
elijah schaffer
I'm going to give it to you straight.
unidentified
And as a socialist, and I'll self-admit it, he knows, he knows it.
He knows it.
He knows it.
elijah schaffer
You can't really be a socialist in America.
unidentified
You can.
elijah schaffer
Well, because you don't live in a socialist system, so it's like...
unidentified
Yeah, we do.
You ever heard of corporate socialism?
elijah schaffer
We don't actually live in a socialist system.
unidentified
We're tax credits.
elijah schaffer
Do we give tax credits to corporations?
Well, yeah, I think that we have a flawed system of capitalism, but that's not pure socialism.
unidentified
And we can't give that money to people who need it.
elijah schaffer
Well, that's what I'm saying.
We aren't in that system.
unidentified
Are we giving money?
elijah schaffer
It's easy to be a socialist when you don't live in a socialist country.
unidentified
Mexico is a socialist country.
elijah schaffer
Would you like to live in Mexico?
unidentified
I used to live in Mexico.
elijah schaffer
Why are you here?
unidentified
Huh?
My parents aren't here.
elijah schaffer
Well, I don't.
Well, then, I mean, you would really rather live in Mexico than here?
unidentified
I live in both places.
I have dual citizenship.
elijah schaffer
What do you guys think?
I'm white.
She says, I'm sorry, you're white and wouldn't talk to me.
I don't remember a time in history when people used to say, I'm sorry, you're a certain skin color.
I don't want to associate with you.
unidentified
Hmm.
elijah schaffer
Sounds pretty recent.
You guys agree, disagree with this statement?
Anybody think he's better or worse than he is?
Trump 2020.
Trump 2020.
What's up, man?
You have an opinion.
I really want to hear your opinion.
I want to imp Donald Trump.
Well, you could say f Donald Trump, but that's what I want to hear.
unidentified
Why?
He expanded it.
elijah schaffer
I don't think he expanded it, no.
unidentified
I think he did.
elijah schaffer
I don't believe he did.
It was like actually, because that's why seven of the top Muslim nations weren't on it, because it wasn't a Muslim ban.
It was terror-prone countries that Obama made.
So I'm just, and I'm not saying that Trump's the best guy in the world, by the way.
unidentified
What's the reason Trump did it?
For racist purposes?
elijah schaffer
I mean, maybe just to put into effect.
unidentified
Blatant racist.
elijah schaffer
Well, I mean, they're terror-prone countries.
unidentified
Sexist.
elijah schaffer
He has a lot of women in his cabinet.
unidentified
He loves other dictators because that's what he wants to emulate.
elijah schaffer
Who does he love?
unidentified
This is bad news.
Kim Ol Jung, Putin, of course.
elijah schaffer
I think he loves them.
We got reoccurring characters here.
I'd be happy to reoccurring characters.
You guys might know this guy from the same school.
What's up?
Are you with the club or are you just around here or what?
unidentified
No, I'm just wandering.
All right, awesome.
elijah schaffer
So you just wonder.
What's your name?
unidentified
My name is Riley.
elijah schaffer
Are you wandering physically, or is that also metaphorically for your life as well?
unidentified
Sure, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Pretty deep stuff right there, right?
unidentified
Hating on Trump is cool.
Like it's a cool opinion to have.
And like people are afraid to have an opposite opinion to that because they're afraid of not looking cool or not being like socially accepted.
elijah schaffer
So the Progressive Church of Humanism, they have a song they sing every Sunday and it's called Donald Trump.
unidentified
Yeah, no, isn't it YG?
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
I just know that a lot of people, that's a humanist church theme song.
unidentified
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, have your own opinion, man.
elijah schaffer
Like, don't I love it.
unidentified
Stop.
Who gives a being cool?
Like, who gives a f about being cool?
I'm talking to you.
Like, all the slightly offensive fans out there, all the slightly offensive subscribers, you know, looking cool, f being cool.
Have your own opinion, man.
If you like Donald Trump, say it.
Don't be afraid.
If you don't like Donald Trump, say it, you know?
Just either way, don't be an asshole.
elijah schaffer
College students, any intelligent college students want to chime in on what they think about Trump?
Good or bad?
You like him?
Do you hate him?
Make your school proud.
Top three worst things you think he's done?
We'll exclude things he's said, but like things he's actually done.
unidentified
Honestly, don't really know.
I hear majority of what he said.
elijah schaffer
Do you think it's problematic, though?
And this is a real question.
Like, Obama had really good rhetoric, but his policies failed the black community specifically.
I mean, Chicago never even changed at all.
unidentified
Obama was president for eight years, and yet Chicago never changed.
And, I don't know, wait, what are you trying to say now that, like...
elijah schaffer
For the most part, I can't really think of anything that actually changed under his administration.
So while I'm not here to vouch for Donald Trump's rhetoric or what he says, because I'm not going to waste my time trying to do that, don't you think that it's weird that we can look at Obama as a good president because he sounded nice, even though his policies didn't move the needle and change our country for the better?
You know, in fact, he actually got us in a lot of mess with bailing out banks and big corporations, which are opposite to Democrat ideas.
Meanwhile, Trump is actually moving the needle for all Americans, including minorities, which are often forgotten.
He says things that aren't popular, but yet do we judge, how do we judge a president?
Is it off of what they say or what they actually do?
unidentified
I think...
elijah schaffer
Is that a B?
unidentified
No.
No, it's not.
It just, I don't like the button.
elijah schaffer
I thought it was like flying AIDS or something.
I don't know what it was.
unidentified
Sorry.
elijah schaffer
It's California.
We can have anything here.
unidentified
Actually, I don't really know.
I just think it comes down to how you judge a person.
Like, when you see a person that you think is a bad person, what do you judge them off of?
elijah schaffer
Primarily their actions.
So what are we getting so far?
What's the consensus?
austen fleccas fletcher
We're talking to people and they're saying stuff about the things that we're saying.
And then they were going, what?
I didn't know that Trump wasn't this bad.
He must be great.
And I'm like, yeah, you're a Trump supporter now.
And they're like, cool, can I work for you?
And I'm like, yeah, sure.
So everyone we talk to has been loving us.
elijah schaffer
You're useless.
I asked you to do one thing and to support the show and just say something useful and you've wasted 20 seconds of the viewers' time.
unidentified
All right.
austen fleccas fletcher
Well, at least you're not recording in 4K.
What do you need me to say?
Hey, I'll do your sound bites for you.
Yeah, you know, at the end of the day, the media convinces us we're all left and we're all right and we're all Nazis and we're all socialists.
We're really not.
We're mostly just in the middle.
So we're here today to spread some awareness and tell people that, you know, Trump's not that bad.
elijah schaffer
Thanks for demonetizing my video by using the phrase Nazi.
Yeah, he wasted your time.
austen fleccas fletcher
Elijah's all right.
Elijah's all right.
unidentified
When it came down to Obama, I never seen like things that made me like, oh, he's a sus.
Like, I'm not down with it.
elijah schaffer
He did lie to cover up, I mean, the killing of our own foreign ambassador in Benghazi.
unidentified
Wasn't aware of that.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he fully, publicly lied, colluded with Hillary Clinton to blame it on a video when they had knowledge of the attack and then didn't put in help and then they covered up and lied like publicly.
He ended up getting tortured and burned alive, our ambassador, and he didn't send in troops.
And that he also got caught in a scandal like selling with his cabinet selling firearms to Mexico that got lost.
It was a huge, huge scandal, Fast and Furious.
It was on the news for like a year.
And we have a bunch of illegal firearms now used to commit murders across Mexico and the border that were due to his plans and his administration.
Not saying that everything he did was bad either, but just saying sometimes we don't hear about the bad that happened under his administration.
unidentified
Yeah, okay, well, let's take into account that when Obama was elected, I think I was like 10, so a lot wasn't...
elijah schaffer
You were 10.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, like my first introduction into politics is like this whole situation with Donald Trump becoming president and things like that.
So this is my first.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I'm sorry for expecting you to know that because I understand that.
What do you think?
Trump, is he bad?
Is he good?
What's your opinion?
unidentified
Definitely not.
I'm conservative, so I feel like Trump is doing an excellent job.
Way better than Obama was.
austen fleccas fletcher
I mean, Obama wasn't even doing nothing.
He put us in Trudin's dollars into debt.
unidentified
And we needed a businessman to get that solved, honestly.
austen fleccas fletcher
So that's what I think.
unidentified
You did.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
austen fleccas fletcher
What was your name?
unidentified
Jonathan.
elijah schaffer
Jonathan, appreciate it, man.
Keep it real.
What?
unidentified
No, I was just going to ask if you're slightly offensive.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, actually, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, I just wanted to introduce myself and say it's really nice to meet you.
elijah schaffer
Dude, nice to meet you.
Yeah, what's your name?
unidentified
My name's Sam.
elijah schaffer
Sam, nice to meet you.
unidentified
So yeah, that's all I have to say.
Perfect.
elijah schaffer
That was very good.
You're very good on the fly.
I'm not going to shake your hand because you're eating a, what is that?
unidentified
A vegan cupcake.
elijah schaffer
Did you buy that?
unidentified
Oh, no, it's just right there.
elijah schaffer
We're watching a video of like dead animals, right?
unidentified
Yeah, it was kind of sad.
elijah schaffer
It wasn't worth a cupcake to me.
I was like, I ain't watching chickens die for a cupcake, but you're bolder than I am.
unidentified
I think things aren't black and white.
I think Donald Trump is an opinionated person.
I think Donald Trump has a very particular worldview, which leads to him being political in the way that he's political.
I think that Donald Trump is an.
I do.
I think he says things without thinking them through and can be offensive and hurtful and can have negative effects on the way people see the world because he's our president, right?
He's at the top.
So what he says has a lot of impact, especially on young people.
Do I think that makes him inherently bad?
No.
Do I think his intentions are bad?
No.
I think that Donald Trump does what he does while trying to do what he thinks is best for our society.
Do I agree with everything that he thinks is best for society?
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