Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer - Democrat Debates Slightly Offens*ve at Turning Point USA
Aired: 2019-01-08
Duration: 14:02


=== Different Views Collide (05:15) ===

[00:00:00]  Did our liberal friend show back up?
[00:00:01]  Where is he?
[00:00:03]  Is he liberal?
[00:00:04]  No, but where's the liberal friend?
[00:00:05]  We have someone here who likes Ocasio-Cortez and is a liberal here.
[00:00:09]  Yeah.
[00:00:09]  Is that you, our friend?
[00:00:11]  Come back.
[00:00:11]  Come back.
[00:00:12]  Come in.
[00:00:17]  All right.
[00:00:18]  So who am I here with?
[00:00:19]  My name's Michael.
[00:00:20]  All right.
[00:00:21]  My name is not Michael, but we're going to run into this.
[00:00:24]  So you said that you're a Democrat.
[00:00:25]  I am.
[00:00:26]  Dude, congratulations for jumping right into the lion's den.
[00:00:29]  Are these people as bad and as scary as you thought they would be?
[00:00:31]  Oh, no.
[00:00:32]  I never thought any of you guys were bad.
[00:00:33]  I'm actually here just because I wanted to see your point of views and learn more about you guys and try to close the gap between the Democrats and the Republicans.
[00:00:38]  Do people still do that?
[00:00:40]  Not as often as I'd like.
[00:00:41]  I do it too, though.
[00:00:42]  I'm always going into Democrat echo chambers to talk to Democrats about why they believe what they believe.
[00:00:46]  Believe it or not, we have a lot in common.
[00:00:47]  Yeah, I think we share most of the same ideas, but our approaches are vastly different.
[00:00:54]  One of ours is successful and the other one's ruining America?
[00:00:56]  I mean...
[00:00:57]  I'm joking.
[00:01:00]  Can you unlock this again real fast?
[00:01:01]  Okay, that's totally joke.
[00:01:02]  Okay, but I want to, before I read anything to you, tell me your thesis.
[00:01:07]  Why are you a Democrat and not a Republican?
[00:01:09]  I grew up in Miami, basically a blue county, been Democrat my whole life.
[00:01:13]  I mean, I believe it started as a party for the blue-collar worker.
[00:01:18]  I mean, it's not as much as it was back then, but I still believe that it can be done if it's done the right way, it'll work.
[00:01:27]  Fortunately, right now, the way it is, we're doing bad policies.
[00:01:30]  We're not living up to our expectations.
[00:01:32]  It needs to be reformed, I think.
[00:01:33]  Well, yeah, you don't think, like, realistically, you don't think the Democrats have completely lost their word that rhymes with it and starts with an SH?
[00:01:42]  I mean, yeah, some of them have gone a little too far with the open borders.
[00:01:46]  I don't agree with what they're doing.
[00:01:47]  And this gender crap?
[00:01:48]  Yeah, and keeps kids in drag.
[00:01:50]  What are 11-year-olds dancing at gay bars with dollars?
[00:01:53]  Remember that?
[00:01:54]  I mean, as far as the gender thing, I'm like, you know, if you want to identify as it, that's fine, but if you want to force me to say it, then I'm not okay with that, because first and foremost, I believe in free speech, First Amendment rights.
[00:02:05]  Besides that, everything else, yeah, we're going a little too deep off the rails, and we need to kind of check ourselves and use some logic to see what's actually reasonable and what's not reasonable in this day and age.
[00:02:16]  Well, whose fault is it that the left has gone so far deep?
[00:02:18]  Is it the lack of the base, the reasonable base, to reel them in, or is it the fact that the party really has lost its foundation, has no true leaders, and people are hijacking it with crazy, crazy BS?
[00:02:28]  I mean, I partially blame it on the media, mainly on the media.
[00:02:34]  Huge influence there, which are liberal.
[00:02:37]  Mostly.
[00:02:38]  Somewhat.
[00:02:39]  You don't think the media is mostly somewhat like somewhat liberal?
[00:02:41]  I think we didn't put CNN or MSNBC on the liberal side.
[00:02:44]  What?
[00:02:45]  You would put them on the far left side.
[00:02:47]  Or I would put them more center-left.
[00:02:48]  Are you- wait, wait a second.
[00:02:50]  Hold up.
[00:02:50]  To be honest with me.
[00:02:51]  Rachel Madow is center-left.
[00:02:54]  Yeah, okay, I'll give you that.
[00:02:55]  She's like, oh, she's okay.
[00:02:57]  Like, there's no way.
[00:02:58]  I mean, someone just quoted her here at the 2016 election telling people, this is America.
[00:03:03]  You're not dreaming the night of the election.
[00:03:05]  And you think that's center left?
[00:03:08]  I mean, it's kind of like the same way when, let's say, Obama, when Obama wins, it's always going to be some type of dysfunction, something that pisses someone off.
[00:03:16]  They're going to say something that they don't think it's the right way.
[00:03:18]  I don't think necessarily what she said was true.
[00:03:20]  I mean, I, for in fact, don't hate Trump, even though I'm a Democrat.
[00:03:24]  I like some of the policies he's put out there.
[00:03:26]  I like some of the things he's saying, some of the things he's trying to fight for.
[00:03:28]  I agree with it.
[00:03:29]  I think it was needed, to be honest.
[00:03:31]  I hate some things about him, too.
[00:03:32]  Bad hair dye, very bad hair dye.
[00:03:35]  Weird bronzer, very strange.
[00:03:37]  Not a big fan of the frumpy suits either.
[00:03:39]  But his policies, he looks pretty good in a pair of white shorts.
[00:03:41]  If you ever seen him play tennis, he's thick.
[00:03:43]  But the reality is, is, let me ask you a couple of Democrat politicians.
[00:03:46]  Give me your opinion of them.
[00:03:47]  Anti-Maxine Waters.
[00:03:48]  No.
[00:03:49]  Don't like Maxine Waters.
[00:03:50]  Try to stir up, you know, basically, essentially I would consider violence.
[00:03:53]  I didn't agree with that message.
[00:03:55]  I think she's too far left for me.
[00:03:58]  That's too much.
[00:03:59]  I'm more centered left over here.
[00:04:01]  Okay, center left.
[00:04:02]  Then you said you like Alexandria Casio-Cortez.
[00:04:05]  How the hell do you like a Democrat socialist, aka almost borderline communist, when you're center-left?
[00:04:10]  Like, I don't like fascists or like Nazis.
[00:04:12]  Although if you read Google searches, they would say I am one.
[00:04:15]  But the reality is, is how could you align with somebody who's like absolutely insane?
[00:04:20]  Well, I understand that the media has portrayed her as a democratic socialist.
[00:04:23]  says she is.
[00:04:24]  Everything she's, yeah.
[00:04:25]  She's She says she is.
[00:04:26]  They don't portray it.
[00:04:27]  Like, they portray me as a Nazi, but I'm not.
[00:04:29]  That's different.
[00:04:29]  They portray her like what she says she is.
[00:04:31]  Everything she's fighting for within social democracy, not democratic socialism.
[00:04:35]  It's vastly different, two different ideologies.
[00:04:37]  She wants universal health care and open borders, basically.
[00:04:39]  And so how are you going to like, it's policies that contradict each other.
[00:04:42]  It's a paradox.
[00:04:44]  No, to open borders, that's wrong.
[00:04:45]  No open borders.
[00:04:46]  But to the universal hair care, I think the way she wants to go about it, I think it's wrong.
[00:04:49]  I think she wants to do it on the big stage, the big government says, I don't think that would ever work economically.
[00:04:53]  How do you do a universal health care off the big government stage?
[00:04:56]  And try to work with each representative of each state and try to save something that works within their economy, within their state's economy.

=== Red-Controlled Areas Tax Myth (08:00) ===

[00:05:03]  But it doesn't work.
[00:05:04]  Universal health care doesn't work with any state's economy.
[00:05:05]  It's not being tried.
[00:05:07]  I live in California, and they're trying it, and it's terrible.
[00:05:10]  California is butchering it, you're right.
[00:05:12]  And that's the best representation of a liberal state.
[00:05:14]  There are 55,000 homeless.
[00:05:16]  We have some of the lowest forms of happiness in the entire country, according to USA Today.
[00:05:20]  We have the most poverty.
[00:05:21]  We have some of the most outrageous housing prices.
[00:05:24]  I pay $2,500 a month for a crappy apartment where I walk out and I try not to step on needles with hepatitis.
[00:05:30]  I'm blessed when people leave me human shit on the floor of my apartment.
[00:05:33]  Like, literally, they come in, they just dump on the front.
[00:05:36]  And I'm paying the price more than a mortgage in another state.
[00:05:39]  And you're going to tell me that that's...
[00:05:40]  I'll be the first one to tell you California is not doing it the best way possible.
[00:05:44]  The way they're doing it, it's disproportionate.
[00:05:45]  But we're a Democratic supermajority.
[00:05:47]  It's almost all Democrats.
[00:05:48]  They can do whatever they want.
[00:05:48]  So that's a Democrat perfect state.
[00:05:50]  Now, the people are so radicalized over there in California that it's come to this point where the politicians are just trying to bend so much to the people's will to make sure they get it re-elected over and over again that they're not really thinking of the consequences of what they're doing.
[00:06:01]  The policies are trying to implement California, which is why California is in the state it is right now.
[00:06:05]  Right.
[00:06:06]  But you know, one of our congressmen in California, you know, his platform, including Cisineros in my district, he said that his main stances for the American people were for sanctuary cities and to resist Donald Trump.
[00:06:19]  To make it a place where they wouldn't cooperate, local law enforcement would not cooperate with federal agencies like ICE or Border Patrol to extradite or criminalize even immigrants who committed crimes or didn't.
[00:06:29]  So it's like Sanctuary City.
[00:06:30]  We're a sanctuary state actually at this point.
[00:06:32]  I don't particularly like ICE.
[00:06:35]  Like in your drinks?
[00:06:37]  Because it waters down my sodas.
[00:06:38]  No, I don't like ICE.
[00:06:39]  I don't think ICE is necessary.
[00:06:40]  I think we've had border.
[00:06:41]  We've had Border Patrol before ICE.
[00:06:44]  I mean, ICE was established in 2006, about two years after the Patriot Act.
[00:06:48]  Okay, but Cosby and Cortez basically likened them to a terrorist organization.
[00:06:52]  She went down to the border.
[00:06:53]  I think it was actually CBP, but I think she thought she was at an ICE detention facility.
[00:06:57]  She was confused.
[00:06:57]  But she was yelling through the gate, telling them that basically, like, what are you doing?
[00:07:01]  And she's supposed to be a federal, like, basically representative, yelling at an own agency, and she says that we should abolish ICE.
[00:07:07]  Do you agree with that?
[00:07:08]  I agree with the abolishment of ICE, unfortunately.
[00:07:10]  And what do we do instead?
[00:07:11]  Unfortunately, if you believe it, why is it unfortunate?
[00:07:13]  Because I think it's unfortunate because people will lose their jobs.
[00:07:16]  And I don't want people to lose their jobs.
[00:07:18]  But I think at the same time, ICE is an unnecessary thing.
[00:07:20]  We have Border Patrol agents.
[00:07:22]  We've had that.
[00:07:23]  We don't need that.
[00:07:23]  So you think that our Border Patrol is doing a good job?
[00:07:25]  Do you know how many illegals are in this country?
[00:07:27]  I think our border patrols are doing their job.
[00:07:28]  Is it because they suck or is it because the funding's wrong?
[00:07:30]  I also don't think the illegal immigration problem is a problem.
[00:07:32]  I think that it's a problem.
[00:07:33]  So illegal immigration problem is a problem.
[00:07:35]  It is a problem.
[00:07:36]  I will not be like, I'm not that type of leftist who's going to be like, oh, no, it's not a problem.
[00:07:39]  We need to let them all in.
[00:07:40]  No, no.
[00:07:41]  But I think what needs to be worked is not Trump's zero tolerance policy, but at the same time, I think that it's needed to show how the law.
[00:07:48]  Because he's just enforcing the law.
[00:07:50]  And sometimes the best way to show a bad law is to enforce it, to let everyone know.
[00:07:55]  And I think that's what he's doing here.
[00:07:57]  I think what needs to be done is to make the legalization process easier to let them in and then they can pay their taxes and then they can be held more accountable for whatever they're doing in this country versus when they're illegal and you know they can just roam about and do whatever they want and not have to worry about taxes or anything like that.
[00:08:11]  So you're against illegal immigration?
[00:08:13]  Are you for higher taxes or lower taxes?
[00:08:15]  I think we should add new tax brackets.
[00:08:17]  Tax brackets, yeah.
[00:08:18]  Okay.
[00:08:18]  I think the terminology, because I mean right now.
[00:08:21]  You think about Charlie Kirk's idea of a flat 10% tax?
[00:08:24]  No.
[00:08:25]  So what about 40% of Americans not even paying taxes?
[00:08:27]  That's a problem, clear, obviously.
[00:08:29]  But I think first we have to change, because you always hear on the left side, oh, we have to tax the 1%, the 1%.
[00:08:35]  The 1% is people who would make roughly, what, $600,000?
[00:08:37]  That's like the last tax bracket.
[00:08:39]  And they're paying roughly about 37%.
[00:08:42]  I think what we need to do is establish new tax brackets that as you keep making more and more money, then you have to pay a little more and more.
[00:08:48]  And I think that's, that would be a- So like a system that punishes people for success?
[00:08:52]  You're not punishing people because you're not- Like, hey, you did a good job.
[00:08:54]  Let's take more from you.
[00:08:55]  It's not really punishing because you still have to pay your taxes regardless.
[00:08:58]  Yeah, but I mean, why should you get to a point where the better and better you do in a society, they penalize you and penalize you more.
[00:09:04]  How is that a good system?
[00:09:05]  So if I said, hey, kids, look, if you do three out of ten of your chores, I'll give you ice cream.
[00:09:10]  But if you do 10 out of 10 of your chores, I'm not going to give you anything.
[00:09:13]  It's like, if you don't reward people for doing a good job in your society, then what's the point?
[00:09:18]  Now, I'm not, I believe rich people, I look at them like, man, why'd you waste your money on that?
[00:09:22]  That's not my, my opinion doesn't matter.
[00:09:24]  That's their life.
[00:09:25]  That's independence.
[00:09:25]  That's their liberty.
[00:09:26]  If you want to buy stupid things and waste your money, I don't think it's wise, but it shouldn't be illegal.
[00:09:30]  And if you're going to take money away from people, taxation is theft.
[00:09:34]  I mean, I don't think taxation is theft.
[00:09:35]  I think taxation is a necessary thing that we need to govern properly.
[00:09:38]  And I think it benefits the economy.
[00:09:40]  And they're not getting up there.
[00:09:43]  They're not getting to that status of wealth without.
[00:09:46]  It's theft where it's at today, because if people are voluntarily agreeing to a bracket and giving money to form the government, that's not theft.
[00:09:52]  That's a voluntary agreement.
[00:09:53]  But right now, the government, just like in my state, they don't even ask you.
[00:09:55]  They just put taxes on things and then raise it, like the gas tax.
[00:09:58]  What is the gas tax in your state?
[00:09:59]  I'm sorry, I don't know, California.
[00:10:00]  So we pay over a dollar more per gallon than every other state.
[00:10:03]  That really is unfortunate because it keeps rising every year.
[00:10:06]  They artificially keep the gas at a certain price, even when it's dropping, just to keep the tax high.
[00:10:11]  That's no, that's no bueno.
[00:10:13]  But so if you look at, so ending on this conversation, if California is, in my estimation from looking at across the entire union, is the best example of a state that's almost entirely influenced by Democrat policies, and it's terrible.
[00:10:25]  And then you look at red states, like Texas, and he's like, wow, this is such a good state.
[00:10:29]  Then people from blue states are like, let's go to the red states and flip them blue.
[00:10:32]  Like Orange County, way nicer than LA County, traditionally a red county.
[00:10:36]  This time it switched all blue.
[00:10:37]  So in my opinion, Democrats come in and they go, wow, what a great place.
[00:10:40]  Let's go to that red place and flip it blue and it'll be even better.
[00:10:43]  And it's like, no, it was good because none of y'all were here.
[00:10:46]  And then look at your places.
[00:10:47]  Go to LA.
[00:10:48]  LA is a piece of shit.
[00:10:50]  It's terrible.
[00:10:51]  And I don't mean that in a joking way.
[00:10:53]  I mean, there's so much human feces on the floor that it makes the news, right?
[00:10:56]  It's actually becoming a piece of poop.
[00:10:58]  And so the whole actuality of this is when you go to red-controlled areas, it's like, oh, it's got low taxes.
[00:11:03]  It's got easy and affordable housing.
[00:11:05]  You know, there's this idea of the right to work.
[00:11:07]  There aren't these unions and inflated costs for business owners and business and income tax and whatnot.
[00:11:11]  And then blue people come in, like my sister, they start moving to Texas because it's better opportunity.
[00:11:15]  They vote the same stupid ideas that made their state bad.
[00:11:18]  And how is that helping the country?
[00:11:20]  Well, at the same time, we have to look at how the country, I mean, before it all happened in California, how was California before all that?
[00:11:26]  I mean, better?
[00:11:27]  Was it better?
[00:11:28]  Yeah, it's like in the last 50 years is when it's declined entirely.
[00:11:31]  And mind you, once again, I reconceded that California is like...
[00:11:34]  Yeah, but I'm saying if the best example we have of the Democrat supermajority is a terrible state, how can we justify trying to make other states more democratic?
[00:11:41]  But at the same time, look at some of the best cities in the country are blue.
[00:11:45]  Where?
[00:11:46]  Okay, so let's see.
[00:11:48]  What would you do?
[00:11:49]  Democrat supermajorities.
[00:11:50]  Not just Democrat, but like look, of all of the top crime cities, I believe that six out of seven of them are run by only in Democrat mayors, right?
[00:11:57]  Of the highest crime regions, it's run by Democrat mayors.
[00:12:00]  Always in highest gun crime, highest violent crime, highest homicide.
[00:12:04]  When we look at the worst cities with the highest crime rates, what states are they in?
[00:12:07]  Some of these blue cities are in red states.
[00:12:09]  So we have to also look at the fact that the red policies could be influencing the, because I mean, they're just a city.
[00:12:14]  No, that's bullshit because you can't say that.
[00:12:15]  This local governance, that's what they're doing.
[00:12:18]  Like, if we look at the actual lifestyle of people inside of the city, the state is fine.
[00:12:23]  Okay, the state's fine.
[00:12:24]  But why is it that these poor areas, these bad areas, aren't getting better?
[00:12:28]  Like, in my opinion, and I'm not talking smack on you.
[00:12:31]  I know that you are actually a probably balanced person.
[00:12:34]  But if we don't, you can't just sit here and look at me and be like, well, I'm balanced, so my party's balanced.
[00:12:38]  Or like, I know what I'm talking about, so they don't.
[00:12:40]  I will call out my party on any injustices they do immediately.
[00:12:44]  That's what we did when we elected Donald Trump.

=== America Needed Trump? (01:15) ===

[00:12:46]  We were so tired of the party just misrepresenting us, working against us.
[00:12:49]  We elected a man who we wanted to represent our rights, even though it's unpopular.
[00:12:54]  The media hates him.
[00:12:55]  The inside establishment hates him.
[00:12:56]  Even Republicans hate him.
[00:12:58]  You have all these never-Trumpers.
[00:12:59]  I even work for a guy who's always openly hated him.
[00:13:02]  And the reality is I love him.
[00:13:03]  And a lot of us love the guy because he's, I mean, the new spending bill, $5.7 billion for a border wall.
[00:13:08]  I mean, we could have taken Amy Schumer, laid her down, she could have made up half the wall, but we decided to fund for the entire thing.
[00:13:14]  And that's the reality.
[00:13:15]  And personally, I don't want the wall.
[00:13:17]  I think that's a waste.
[00:13:18]  I think that's not going to stop the problem.
[00:13:21]  But I think at the same time, as far as Trump goes, we needed him.
[00:13:26]  We needed someone like him to come in.
[00:13:27]  Did a Democrat that supports Okasi-Cortez just said when it comes to Trump we needed him?
[00:13:31]  We do.
[00:13:42]  I want you to say I'm a Democrat and say that what you said earlier, America needed Donald Trump.
[00:13:48]  This is true.
[00:13:48]  You said it, dude.
[00:13:49]  We gotta get to say it.
[00:13:50]  Say it.
[00:13:51]  Just please for us.
[00:13:52]  I'm a Democrat.
[00:13:53]  My name's Mike, and America needed Donald Trump.
[00:13:56]  That's right.
[00:13:56]  Let's get a round of applause.
[00:13:58]  That was good.
[00:13:58]  That was good.
[00:14:00]  Dude, come here, man.
[00:14:01]  That was good.
[00:14:02]  Thank you.