Yeah, so I think that, you know, first of all, being in California, it's not that you try to interview the left, it's just that that's the kind of people you run across, typically.
It's like a random poll of, you know, you go out there and it's just, hey, oh, you're liberal?
No way.
I mean, yes, and this is a state, believe it or not, I had to use a paper straw to drink my Thai tea out of before here.
It makes it taste like cardboard.
It's disgusting.
But that being said, I think that paper straws are probably a big enough deal of motivation just to want to interview the left.
Like, why'd you ruin my drinks?
Like, no, I mean, how do you do that?
You know, but the reality is, I think what happens is you notice that maybe at one point you weren't so right-wing or conservative or whatever, and you probably still aren't, but the left has drifted so far left and they claim to have taken the center with them.
So they keep saying that we're moving in this direction and we are still in the center.
They keep calling everyone who's conservative, who disagrees with them, racist, fascist, bigots.
And when I started noticing that people were calling me things that I never identified as, that I was never close to, and I realized that there was an entire portion of the population that believed this stuff, I realized that you got to get out there and you got to start finding out why they believe what they believe, if they even know why they believe it, and to try to change some minds, hopefully, by putting it out on the internet for the rest of the world to see.
And it's just because we've been the silent majority for so long.
And I think it's time that we be less silent because we can't just give up the culture.
We can't just give up the narrative because we want to be polite and not offend people and not be called certain things.
I think the days of the silent majority are kind of over.
So I created my channel to kind of show people that it doesn't take a journalism degree or a nice equipment or millions of dollars to go engage with people and make content.
I mean, all my stuff, my camera I got for free.
My microphone is a spoon.
I wear like the crap clothes.
I have like this dung fat face and the beard.
And I kind of just go out there and talk to people.
And I just wanted to show that it's really doable.
I'm the normal guy.
I can go out there and shoot stuff.
And if you guys maybe see me out there, and maybe that'll encourage you to go out there and do the same thing or do something different that you like even more.
So I think a big thing is just being less silent going forward and realizing that if we don't speak up, it's going to get worse.
It's like things like going out, again, like they were saying.
We don't go and like, okay, I want to talk to a lib.
It's kind of just, we just go out, talk to people, and they happen to be liberals.
People ask me why, oh, why are you always bashing libs and making libs look stupid?
It's like, well, I've never asked anyone if they're Democratic or Republican or liberal conservative before I interviewed them.
In fact, sometimes, a lot of times, they're conservative and people have messaged me saying, oh, I know that guy, he's a conservative.
But he answered the question wrong and he looked stupid on camera.
But for me, it's like things like Antifa, you know, you guys see how the news talks about Antifa and what they say about them, but we've actually been around Antifa, so we know how they actually are.
And you can already tell that journalists like CNN Don Lemon, he's never been around an Antifa member.
You can just tell by the way he talks about that because he's saying, you know, they're saying things like, oh, they're African-American protest group.
I had someone yell on camera on Hollywood Boulevard: street shut down, there's permits for a protest.
And this young woman had a megaphone, and in front of everyone, she screamed, Donald Trump is worse than Hitler.
It's a classic moment.
It's a callback joke now.
She's at every event, and she's a leader of the organization that refused fascism that does all the events in LA.
So that was a good one.
I had an older woman tell me that if you can get an AR-15, what's stopping you from getting a nuclear weapon?
I was kind of stunned.
They never respond.
So I'm like, there's one way to look at it.
And then I had, what was another one?
During the MS-13, when Trump called MS-13 Animals, someone said Trump's a pig for doing that.
And then another person said that, you know, it's a big gang.
Not everyone in the gang is doing the murders and the crimes.
It's a big gang.
So I just really saw people pulling at straws and trying to justify their anti-Trump point of view no matter what.
And the most danger I've ever felt was actually here at CSULB for the Charlie Kirk thing.
There was a guy there who grabbed my camera and was getting in between our shots and trying to, you know, trying to get physical and trying to escalate things.
And that wasn't the best.
And then one time someone pulled out a huge knife when I was talking to him.
So those are probably the scariest moments.
But yeah, I think actually on this campus was when I felt most in danger.
It was fine.
It wasn't that bad, but people were definitely trying to raise the stakes.
So if you guys ever go, if you go to my CSULB video, we have a zoom-in of that guy, and we call him Melted Candle Face because he looks like the candle from Beauty and the Beast, but his face looks like it's like there's like a gravity pole.
Not mean, you're going to watch it.
You think I'm a jerk.
And then you're going to look at it like that's a melted candle.
And so if you look at him, he shows up in a lot of my videos.
He's assaulted us multiple times.
Try to identify him.
See if you know him and see if you can see him at future events.
And like, yeah, for me, I've never felt like I was in danger, but I've always felt like other people were in danger.
If you guys have seen a video of me, one of my first experiences was going to in front of Maxine Waters' office when you saw these crazy black people burning their American flag and dancing around it like a weird colt.
Yeah, kind of commenting on that, actually, it's very funny.
One of the people that runs WorldStar, the account, uploaded a video from the side of us running away from people like bats and chains.
And it's really funny because all you see is like, you know, it says this Nazi, KKK is, you know, in our hood, which I don't know who they were talking about, but all you see is me running across the screen.
And then you see Mike behind me, and suddenly there's like this swarm of just like thuggish looking people, and they're just like running, and they just all just like pass Mike.
And it's like he's just like this invisible piece.
They just flood through him and then he's still behind them and they just moved right past.
And I don't even know why.
But yeah, I was going to say, if you want to know if I ever feel in danger, yeah, there's like a 12-minute compilation video of just me getting assaulted by people.
So there's like literally 12, and that's like only like a fifth of the footage of me getting assaulted.
A lot of it, they break cameras and things and I don't get it on footage.
But I mean, definitely I don't feel safe.
And people, you know, have pulled out knives, they've cracked the rib of one of my cameramen.
You know, they've split open heads of one of my security guards.
We've had three cameras destroyed while filming.
Yeah, I've been hit multiple times.
I mean, it just happens on a regular basis.
But I think if you're going to fight a war, then, you know, this is a culture war.
It's not a bad war, but it's an idea to fight for what matters in this country.
And if you're not willing to get dirty, if you're not willing to handcuff yourself to Twitter, if you're not willing to get out there and to do what you think is best, then I don't know why you're in the fight at all.
Because we have to stand up for what's right, even if it costs us something.
No, I think it's a funny, I think the reason why I think it's funny is because you just go up like, hey, why do you believe what you believe?
And they go, whack, and they just like smack you.
And then they look like idiots because they're hitting you when you're trying to ask them a question.
And I'm not trying to get assaulted or trying to throw myself in the way of danger.
I just want to show that in order to ask a simple question, it puts you in danger.
And that's the weird thing about leftist culture right now, is that if you try to question them, they don't have a response.
And the typical thing, even when settlers or different people came into countries and the people didn't know what they were seeing, they would attack what they didn't know.
And so these people, they don't understand your beliefs.
They don't know why you're coming at them.
So their immediate response is violence.
And that shows a flaw in their ideology.
And I think that videos on YouTube like mine or theirs or anybody else's are exposing that and young people are waking up.
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So a lot of these Antifa mobs basically say that they're protesting hate speech.
For me, when I look at just hate speech and censorship, for me, I always try to turn it around on them.
You have to remember that the left is playing the game of identity politics.
It's like they're playing monopoly.
And a lot of times, as conservatives, we try to come to the table with a different board game.
You know, we start trying to play sorry or life.
But we're playing monopoly.
So we need to beat monopoly and then put a new game in play that we or everyone can play.
So we're playing identity politics.
If you guys seen the videos, Elijah's videos, people call me a token.
What I do is, okay, that's hate speech.
You shouldn't be allowed to call me that.
Just turn it right on them.
And they're like, okay, well, that doesn't really make sense.
I want, but you're a token.
It's like, well, what about hate speech?
What about censorship?
So you turn it on their heads with things like that, but hate speech is free speech because if you bar people from saying certain things that you don't like, what about the people who it's not that case?
So you look at issues with in the past the civil rights movement, you know, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and black protesters were basically thrown in prison for preying on the steps of Civil Hall in Albany, Georgia.
So obviously we believe that Dr. King, his message, you know, wasn't hate speech, but to the white southerners, it was.
And then you also have cases where the ACLU was protecting neo-Nazis from they're defending them so that way they can have a march in I think it was Skokie, Chicago, and people didn't like that.
But if we bar the neo-Nazis from march and express themselves, then we also have to bar people like black protesters, Black Lives Matter.
They should be censored as well.
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So if you want the good, you have to have the bad.
And we, as conservatives, or, you know, even if you just like the Constitution, you don't have to necessarily be conservative.
I feel conservative is the word that we attribute to anyone who's not within the mob of the left.
But if you're not within the mob of the left, you should be open to hearing new ideas.
When the left censors people and shuts people down, they're putting more people into the shadows, which is the problem.
And I think as a free market person, you can almost apply that to free speech.
So it's like, to use an extreme example, if the KKK wants to come here and have a rally, the left would rather shut them down because they're scared people will join or that they'll make good points and people want to be a part of it.
Or they kind of take humanity away from us and don't believe that people are good or can make good decisions.
I think if the KKK came to this campus, I don't think they'd gain a single member.
I don't think anyone would be like, oh, those guys make some good points, like cool outfits.
Definitely not what's going to happen.
And by putting, so I think that the way to combat this is to always be a beacon of truth.
And if your goal as a leftist is to, I think the way to really handle this would be free speech-wise, let's let everyone talk and hear what everyone has to say and let the people decide.
They, instead of shining light on the darkest parts of our culture, they're creating more shadows and pushing more people away.
So say tonight, if we had gotten shut down, the next time we go wanting to do an event, they'll say, oh, well, CSULB shut them down.
They must be some problems.
They must be inciting violence or must be dangerous.
And then we just get lumped in with these far-right, far-left KKK people that actually do incite violence.
And it's not really fair.
And bigger picture, it's just like a slippery slope that leads to less and less conversation, less and less dialogue, and more divisiveness, which is the last thing we need.
So it's almost like they have the right intentions.
Their goal is to liberate us from hate, which is a great thing, honorable thing.
I think we all kind of want to do that.
But the way they're going about it is the opposite.
They're pushing more people into the shadows instead of shining light onto the problem.
I mean, I know some people don't think hate speech exists, but in some aspects it does.
The better question is really even, is it a big problem?
And I know one recent study that I can't remember the exact source, but you can look this up, found that in far-right beliefs, only about 6% of the country identifies as being far-right.
Now, I don't know all the standards of what they said that is, but a lot of people were sharing the study on Twitter and on Instagram saying, well, only 6% of the country, it feels like it's a lot more.
And that's the key thing we have to realize here, is whether you're looking at the ridiculousness of the far left or even where they might be looking at some things that they think are hate speech from what they call the far right, it's very much a minority of the country that maybe has a loud voice and we're giving credit to something that is not a big threat.
I don't think the biggest threat to our country is climate change.
Sorry, Obama, I don't think so.
And next, I also don't think the biggest threat to our country is white supremacy.
I don't think that is the biggest issue.
I do think people are hateful.
I think people say things.
But the key thing here is when you start policing this, then you have to know the motives of the person saying it, their intent, and you have to take into account the way a person received it.
And when you start allowing individuals to decide what they feel is hateful based on how they perceive it, that opens up, you can feel threatened by facts.
I mean, we know with the Spanish Inquisition and these kinds of things, the church felt threatened by science and by truth.
And we can't let institutions feel threatened by stats.
If something's sad in a community and it's threatening and it's upsetting like single motherhood and black communities at such a high rate, that's upsetting.
I'm white and I'm upset about that.
And if I was black and I saw that as a community that I felt identified with and that was true and someone reminded me of that, I would feel upset too.
But we don't say that's hate speech, you're racist, it's not your place to say that as a white person.
We say, hey, this is a problem.
It's threatening, it's upsetting, but let's deal with it.
Let's learn how to confront it.
Because we don't grow as a nation by avoiding the things that hurt us or by trying to silence the people we disagree with.
We learn how to live with them and be a United States of America.
And so I think if you police hate speech, you start policing liberty.
And that's when we start threatening our own constitutional rights.
And yeah, basically we know that hate speech is just speech you don't like.
So when you try to censor that, what happens is that you actually attack people who are marginalized.
If there's actually a oppressed group anywhere, it's always the people who are marginalized that are affected by that censorship.
Like I was explaining how the civil rights movement, how much censorship was going on for the black protesters of Martin Luther King Jr. when they were protesting segregation and whatnot.
For the Jews, the Nazi Germans were literally controlling what the Germans were allowed to hear and say, and that's why they believed the evil Jews.
And we all know that censorship did not work well for the Jews through that.
How many books on African American culture are censored right now?
The autobiography of Malcolm X is censored in a lot of places.
What's it called?
I Know Why the Cage Bird Sings is censored.
The color purple is censored.
So there's a lot of African American books that are censored because people don't like the content in it.
And not even just African American books, just books in general.
Huckleberry Finn, they want to censor that.
So when you censor these things, it's always people who are trying to, who are literally oppressed.
I'm not talking about people who say they're oppressed now, but aren't actually.
I'm talking about people who are literally marginalized and being oppressed by a majority.
It's always them who suffer the most from it.
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That's great.
You guys talk about censorship.
Since you guys are working within the media to an extent, what would you guys say is like there are liberal bias there?
Do you guys feel that there's a liberal bias and how does it affect you if it's still there?
Yeah, I'm definitely demonetized on YouTube a lot.
Basically, every time I put a video out, YouTube automatically demonetizes it and I request a manual review, meaning someone should, YouTube, I would like them to check it out and confirm that's the case.
And they say, oh, no problem, 48 hours, we'll get back to you.
And then like 47 and a half hours later, they message me saying, oh, your video's fine.
You can make money on it now.
But I missed two days of good viewership.
So that's kind of how they demonetize me.
I hear all the time that people are getting automatically unsubscribed from my channel.
Same on Instagram.
They can't comment certain times.
They can't follow me at certain times.
And it's unfortunate, but it kind of, you know, I'm a big believer in staying alive in the game as much as possible.
The way Mike described it before is really good.
How we're, you know, we're playing their game right now.
They control the media, so we have to play their game.
You could easily make a certain type of video that would get you kicked off of all your platforms right away.
And while it is good to push the lines in certain areas and bring attention to certain things, you do have to stay alive in the game as long as possible and help push your message and certain narrative as long as possible that you agree with.
Because as soon as they do take you off, they take all your power away.
So you have to get as much work done as possible, get as much influence out there as possible until you're taken off the platforms is kind of how I see it.
Yeah, I think, I mean, some examples of this would be like, I mean, I've been locked out of my Instagram account and then telling me without any reprimand, hey, if you put one more, I'm actually on the last warning for my Instagram.
It's going to get deleted if I put up one more post.
And it was all just because I wore a dress to a protest and claimed to be a trans woman.
And anytime someone touched me, I said, you're hitting a trans person.
But of course, you know, Instagram says, hey, you know, you can't put that up.
And I think when you look at, let's say, people like Gavin McGinnis or Milo Yiannopoulos, who pushed the bar, am I going to somehow insult them or say they're doing anything wrong?
No.
They're doing what they're doing the best that they know how to do it.
People are mocking Laura Loomer, some people for what she did with handcuffing herself to Twitter.
You know, I'm not going to comment on these people.
All I'm going to say is that right now here, when it comes to censorship, you got to play your role the best that you can.
And like you said, when you're trying to stay in the game, it's not that you're ceding to the people, it's just that you have to realize you're playing their game right now.
And the key thing is, is when you're in war and somebody's attacking you on your base, there's a different mode and a rule of action than when you cross enemy lines and you go on to their base.
Right now, the laws are in their favor.
It's private enterprise.
I don't want to get into the ideas of regulating these private companies at the moment.
I know there's people have different opinions.
But now you've got to realize online and in these places, you play on their home base.
And so no, you're not giving up by playing by some of their rules.
You're being smart.
You're being tactful.
And I know this because look at what happened with the U.S.
We fought the biggest organized military in the world, but we won.
Why?
Not because we're the strongest, but because we played it smart and we did it.
And you think that you can't win?
A bunch of people feel like you're in a hole.
Imagine this.
Imagine the strongest country in the world in the modern era being in a war in a place it maybe shouldn't be in.
I'm not going to comment.
For the last 15 or so years, fighting people in caves who still wear dresses or whatnot.
And they're out there and you say, no, and you're like, what's going on?
We haven't won.
Okay, we haven't won.
Because the reality is, it's the tactics that matter.
And so when I'm on YouTube, they age restrict my videos.
They demonetize me.
One time they froze my account for an entire week with no views and told me it's because they thought I was getting artificial views.
That's what they do.
And I just say, oh, sorry, there was none.
You waited out.
And so I think with the liberal bias in the media, it's there.
And if you're on their turf, know that.
And play smart.
Don't be stupid.
Don't try to provoke the dragon.
Don't poke a hungry bear.
You know what I'm saying?
Be honest, be real, and be tactful.
And my advice to that is, is like I'm going to be putting out a video.
It's going to be talking about some maybe some issues with a certain group, but I'm going to change the name to Christians instead of that other group because I know that you can talk smack on Christians online.
So I'm going to make sure I'm telling you guys it's not a video about Islam.
You can hear it here.
It's not a video about Islam at all.
It's not.
About Christians and about how they flew across into the Twin Towers.
Everything was crazy.
But it really is.
It was terrible, right?
It was terrible.
But I'm saying, you know, that's the idea: you've got to learn to do that.
And also, if you're ever like, hey, you want people to comment someone who's talking smack, I always say, hey, why don't you guys send this person some love?
Or here's this person.
Go ahead and bless them with your greatest blessing.
And that's the way you do it.
And you play by their rules, and then you don't get banned.
Yeah, and just to piggyback, like the same thing, I get censored all the time.
So I have like what YouTube does, if you don't know, is like you get a lot of traffic.
Like Elijah's saying that he froze his entire account.
So I've had it where I'm getting a lot of traffic and a lot of subscribers and viewers, and all of a sudden it just stops.
It's like, oh, look, I'm getting one subscriber a day.
It's like, okay, what the heck is happening here?
But just to piggyback what Elijah is saying, it's like we got to play their game.
We're fighting a culture battle.
So the videos that Fleckis and Elijah are putting out, we're exposing people, showing them for who they are and whatnot.
It's getting thousands, millions of views altogether, and people are seeing it.
So they're seeing what the reality of the left is.
And we already know that when it comes to big tech, like YouTube, Facebook, whatnot, I think Jack from Twitter is under investigation for possibly lying under oath, you know, about how he censors on his site Facebook.
I personally believe Facebook's going to be dead in the next five, ten years.
People don't, it's going to die.
They've had how many issues have they had in the past six months where they've been hacked like three times and they're under investigation for all sorts of things.
Instagram is sort of the best or the least worst kind of.
YouTube is pretty bad.
We know Prager U is suing YouTube and Google because they're censoring 80 plus videos that they have.
The video me and Will Went did, we went to Cal State Northridge and Will dressed up like a Native American or an Indigenous man and I dressed up like a black pilgrim.
They exist.
I looked it up.
And that got taken down on Will's Instagram and Prager U's Instagram.
It's still on mine.
And it's on YouTube and Facebook, but Instagram took it down.
So these things are happening.
And I always tell people, if you don't think that there's media bias or censorship, you're probably not a conservative.
I mean, again, and I hate to bring this up, but I really do believe that right now, anybody who is leading the fight to show this deserves some credit, even if they're using methods that you wouldn't have liked basically to have used.
And I want to sort of bring up this idea that if you don't know who Laura Loomer is, you should follow her venture a few times just because of what she's been doing.
She's really leading the fight against Twitter and these ideas for silencing people who speak out in ways that they disagree with.
But the reality is that when you go out there, the way to actually combat this bias, the way to actually look at it is to see one example.
It's when Jim Acosta, okay, or the accosting Jim Acosta, who basically got his press credentials, his permanent press credentials, by the way, not even his full press credentials.
He could get in upon request, but he got it revoked temporarily for doing something that the executive thought was inappropriate.
The media should cry out for the media to protect journalists.
But then somebody like Laura Loomer, who considers herself a journalist, hasn't done anything, hasn't assaulted anybody, who has her own views, gets permanently banned, those same people sneer and they go, ha, good for you, you deserve it.
Look at her.
They start attacking her.
She's fat or she's this or she's that.
And they start attacking the way she looks.
And so you see that for their own, you know, for what is it called?
And I think one of the things that we have going for us, which the left doesn't, is our audience is highly engaged.
One of the worst pieces of advice I got in the beginning when I started making my videos was that I should make videos that are short because people have a really small attention span.
They're not going to be able to pay attention.
So it's like, all right, I have to go make videos of me like eating spicy peppers or jumping off of stuff.
And I didn't want to do that.
But I quickly learned that that's not the case because the right is so deprived of content that they're willing to watch.
Like my average watch time is almost as much as my entire video because We don't have Netflix, we don't have Hollywood, we don't have things on TV that actually appeal to us.
So when someone makes content like us or whoever you guys like, it's like a lot easier to be engaged and watch the whole thing and actually care and enjoy it.
So I think play the game for as long as you can, fight the censorship, stay in the game for as long as you can, and then eventually take it off of the platforms, maybe onto your own website or something like that.
And it seems like a hard idea, like a daunting task, but the audience will go with you because our audience is kind of like guerrilla media right now.
And our audiences need us.
So it's like they'll follow you to a website.
They'll follow you to a pay site, whatever it is.
So I'd recommend kind of just building your audience, building your voice, and then as soon as you're able, get off the platforms.
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You guys generally talk about how it affects you guys right now.
How do you think it affects like the general masses of people who are in America?
I always tell people, if there's anything you should fear, it's deception.
Because if you have a mass group of people who are deceived and they don't know it, and then you see how it is when you try to show them that they're deceived.
So it's always like, you see us, we're at the protests.
When I was at the Trump Star when they pickaxed Trump's, you know, Hollywood star, they're just screaming, you know, Trump is racist, Trump is racist.
And I asked one question, I said, why?
And they're like, they're just like, what do you mean?
Yeah, and it kind of just matters where you fall within the echo chambers.
I think a big mistake I made early on was I believed that everyone was seeing what I was seeing.
So for one week, it was like the Antifa, I saw a week where Antifa poured water on a disabled veteran, they were throwing bricks through windows, all this stuff.
And I'm like talking to my friends who don't follow politics and I'm like, oh, how about this Antifa stuff?
And they literally said, what's Antifa?
So you have to kind of remember what you're seeing, know not everyone's seeing the same stuff as you, and just kind of be able to talk about it, kind of like how Mike said.
You have to be able to defend your views and just be able to actively engage people, be really polite, because at the end of the day, the far right and the far left are a lot smaller than the media wants you to believe.
And the real war is going to be for the rational people in the middle.
It's like the people you guys know from class who are like, yeah, I don't really care about politics.
I think I'm liberal.
You know, I'll probably vote Democrat.
I don't really follow it.
I don't know what's going on.
Those are the people that are going to wake up in the next few years, and there's millions and millions of them, and that's the most important group to reach out to.
Like, when I make my videos, people think that I'm being kind of mean to the people I interview, which I don't think I am.
I think I'm pretty polite.
But my goal, believe it or not, it would be nice, but my goal isn't to have this lady come around and think that Trump's a good president or that Charlie should speak.
My goal is to show her and her views to everyone else in the middle who's kind of watching both sides trying to make up their minds.
And I think that's more important because the far left is going to be the far left forever.
I don't think we're going to convince Antifa to come onto our side.
But the people in the middle who are kind of watching it all play out, that's who we're shooting for.
Yeah, and I think there's something that I do that I'm not going to recommend you doing this unless you want to have a problem going to sleep, which is like spend a night in liberal or leftist echo chambers on Instagram.
Like just find some like weird liberal posts and start clicking on tags and rabbit trail your way deep into the dark cesspool of confusion where a lot of our problems probably originate.
And what you're going to find there is something very interesting.
I found that when I'm in the liberal echo chamber, something I read the other night, which shocked me because it's not true, is it said, did you know that white people came in and massacred 100 million Native Americans?
Ridiculous number, you know, like just 100 million, you know?
And I started reading, I started going through and it's like, white slaves raised money for this guy, white supremacist broke his head open, shared a week ago.
I go look for the GoFundMe page.
This happened like three years ago and he was really not the same picture.
And then you go down even more and it's like, Trump's a racist.
Did you know that Trump said General Lee was actually a good general and he praised the Confederates?
And then it's like, wait, no, he actually said Grant was a good general.
And you start going in and you look and you're like, man, if I lived in this and I was exposed to this many lies and delusions and misguided, and also too, our personalities are attracted to negativity.
And while the conservatives are more likely and continually pushing towards stats and facts and truth, you're in a world where people are like, what I feel and what I've seen.
And so you know what?
A lot of people don't even get into politics, you're going to find.
And they just go into one or two of these posts and you're going to find out Trump is terrible.
The government is trying to hurt black people and silence liberals.
And liberals are the free thinkers and the open-minded people who want to take back for the minorities what the white man stole.
And I'm telling you, just one hour in there and you're going to see why people believe it.
And it's so negative that I think coming to people in the real world who are negative and bringing a positive light to what you believe.
You know, I believe in the verse in the Bible that says that you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
And I think when you let people know the freedom and the joy of finding the truth, not becoming red, not becoming conservative.
Remember, red pilling is not making people vote red.
It's getting people to think for themselves and to see the truth.
And if you believe that the truth and the facts are more in your favor in your political party, then you should assume and trust that they'll end up voting according to the values that you know are best for this country.
But you want to open and illuminate their mind, not push them to another side of a ticket.
And when you take that friendly approach, and I'm here to help you see the truth, and I want you so that you have a better life.
Once you wake up and you're like, oh, shoot, like, maybe it was better if I thought I think Ariana Grande was the biggest thing that happened in the world.
And adding to that, we are convinced right now as a culture, the left especially, that any sort of success comes from privilege, and any sort of failure is from oppression.
And we're teaching people to not be accountable or not to persevere.
So, if you have a failure, instead of going back to the drawing board and saying, Where did I go wrong?
What could I have done better?
How can I improve?
You say, Oh, I didn't get this because this person treated me this way because of XYZ.
That's like something you can't control.
And that's a very dangerous mindset.
That's kind of what we're up against.
And that's why they want to censor us so bad.
Because at the end of the day, if you go at them in a rational way, in a calm way, and take the emotion out of the debate, facts will win every time.
And for the most part, I feel like that's why I'm attracted to the conservative movement.
That's what we deal with.
We deal with facts.
And maybe we could be a little more sympathetic or empathetic.
I'd say the left is like 90-95% emotions, 5-10% facts.
And maybe the other side, the right, maybe we're 90% facts, 10% emotions.
So maybe we can kind of, you know, be more, show that we're empathetic and sympathetic.
I think that's where they think we're not.
They think we're these like horrible monsters.
But at the end of the day, we just realize that there are certain harsh truths that need to be dealt with.
So I think as long as we lead with the facts and be rational and nice and polite, they can't really deny us unless they do something illegal or censor us.
And they're kind of leading the idea of being a free thinker with Candace Owens and the Blexit movement.
And what I always tell people is that just because you're conservative doesn't necessarily make you a Republican.
And I think that's what a lot of people think.
That if you're conservative, you're automatically Republican.
Or they tell me I have allegiance to Donald Trump or I have allegiance to the Republican Party.
That's not necessarily true.
It's I'm a conservative.
I'm also a free thinker.
I have libertarian values.
I have a wide array on a lot of things.
But at the end of the day, I'm a free thinker, meaning I have opinions and we can sit down and we can talk about it.
And I think that's how we will lead the movement right now, because there's a lot of people who are leaving the Democratic Party and saying, I don't want to be Democrat anymore.
But they're also saying, but at the same time, I don't want to be Republican.
Well, now we're saying, well, okay, now you have these Democratic refugees who are kind of in the middle just walking around.
And what we have to do is we have to show them and say, okay, I'm not asking you to be Republican.
I'm not asking you even to like Donald Trump.
I'm just saying you need to understand that there are other thoughts right now.
So one of the hottest topics right now in the political cycle is immigration with the migrant caravan.
And I always try to tell people, it's like, you do realize that 80% of Hispanics believe in a merit-based immigration system.
80%.
But you're telling me that it's racist to think that.
And you're also, and do you know that people in Tajana, Mexicans, are protesting the migrant caravan right now.
But you're telling me it's racist to want a border wall.
So it's getting them to understand that there are other sets of ideas.
And that's why I tell a lot of, I like to call them the uppity radical blacks, who it's very different.
It's kind of like they're radical Muslims and there are Muslims.
There are radical blacks and then there's black people.
And then there's another word for black people that we won't call.
They call themselves that.
But the uppity radical blacks, they say things like, well, you know, Donald Trump is racist and I'm oppressed and yada yada yada.
And I tell them, it's like, you do realize that there's a large group of black conservatives.
You do that, realize that.
And what the left and the mainstream media want you to believe is that minority conservatives do not exist.
There's no coverage of minority conservatives anywhere.
Unless you make your own YouTube channel or you found your own business or you get hired by TPSA and you found a Blexit movement and gather them around it.
But you have to produce your own media content, which is what we're doing.
Because the mainstream media wants people to believe that minority conservatives don't exist.
And that's the cultural war we're fighting right now.
Yeah, I think you have to realize that there's this little annoying thing that's basically like the Constitution Bill of Rights, which people like to ignore these days.
But policies at Harvard don't supersede your rights as a citizen.
And I think it's very important to know your rights and to know your ability.
Now, I'm not telling you to be one of those people, those dumb people that get stopped by a police and they're like, I don't have to roll down my window.
This is an unwarranted search and seizure.
It's like, just stop, just pay your speeding ticket.
Like, this is unnecessary.
You know what I'm saying?
They try to invoke their rights to cause a problem.
But I think when you invoke your rights to avoid a problem, see the cost and make sure if it's worth it.
Because the reality is that there were moments when I was in college where, look, I just wrote a BS paper and I just said, yes, oh, I even wrote things in my paper.
I tried to be even PC in one, and then I got a C on it because I said colored people, not people of color.
And I was like, are you serious?
And that's what I was like, what in the world?
And there's a fighting battle and there's not.
I also had some problems at Cal State LA because white people were the minority.
So I tried to get a Euro and Transatlantic Australian Student Union for white people at the college, which did not make me popular there.
Because we were a minority.
We were like a small percentage.
And we were one of the minorities who didn't have a minority student union.
So I mean, just kind of pick your battles and figure out what you want to do.
But also maybe choose a major where you're not really confronted with a lot of this stuff that might be more useful for the future.
You know, I mean, right now, welders and make like $80,000 a year by the time you're like 21, Gavin McGuinness was saying today.
Also, $300, I think $350,000, $380 a day for tree cutters and tree trimmers.
I mean, and yet we're still saying that a college degree is the way to freedom.
So I think kind of ask yourself if you're confronting these problems regularly and on the basis, maybe even question if your degree is worth it, if it's useful.
And maybe rethink what degree you're in.
If you're in one of those degrees, my bad.
But STEM degrees, myself, I'm saying from somebody who studied molecular biology, I don't know what that has to do with what I do today.
But I didn't confront much problems except for a professor who tried to blacklist me after I graduated, who told me at one point, he's Brown Pride and said that my race was on the decline, that we were declining.
And he was very, he was Metcha, he was very out there.
So I know that it actually cost me my career, and that's how I got into YouTube primarily, was I couldn't get into the scientific field because he kept calling in and blacklisting me from my potential jobs.
And that's what sucks, and that's what happens just because he disagreed with my politics.
And that's the reality.
And so it can cost you your job, but I believe God always makes a way where there's no way.
I think it's a tough time, obviously, for conservatives right now.
We're kind of the underdog.
But at the same time, it's an uphill battle, but it's not one we can't win.
I think what we have going for us is we are doing well online.
We are getting censored, but we are creating these strong followings online.
And I think we should take that off of the computer and create strong followings in person.
I think what the left does is they put, they create a community that surrounds being a victim.
So everyone in the left's community is like, oh, you're a victim, I'm a victim, we're oppressed like this, oh, you're oppressed like that.
And it doesn't make for a progressive culture in a way because instead of building things up, they tear down the problems they see within society.
So I think the best way to combat that is to create a more enticing culture, to create a more enticing community on campus with your family, in your town, wherever it is, wherever you have the opportunity to do so.
If we create a more enticing community, when the people, the Democratic refugees that might call them, when they leave the left and they leave the mob, they're going to need a place to go.
If they see our community and our culture is strong and the people are good and the content and the entertainment and the interpersonal interactions are all something great that they want to be a part of, it's going to be a lot easier to have them come in as opposed to them kind of like joining conservatism based on what they thought it was, which is not what it is.
My favorites right off the bat were Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, these guys.
I like Anomaly, I like Will Witt, Laura Loomer, Milo, Gavin.
And I think, you know, it's a group of individuals on the right.
That's what it is.
And the left is a group of the group.
And on the right, we're individuals.
So, you know, we can like certain things from certain people and disagree with other people, but we don't deny them a place on our side.
So it's like, you know, if you see Laura Loomer out there doing what Elijah's talking about, you know, handcuffing herself to Twitter, you don't have to go do that to be part of the conservative movement.
You know, just go be the best you you can be.
Find what you like to do, whether that's maybe long form, maybe it's on camera, off camera, whatever it is.
Find whatever it is you like and go do it.
And just kind of appreciate, you know, everyone for their differences.
If Laura wants to go shut down plays and handcuff herself places, great.
Let's talk about why she's doing it.
If Gavin wants to say crazy stuff and get thrown off Twitter, fine, go do it.
And let's talk about why he's getting thrown off of Twitter.
But just kind of find your role, build your audience, build your voice, and then after a little bit, break out of your comfort zone and start trying to do more.
Yeah, for me, a lot of Ben, Ben Shapiro was like the beginning foundation for me of influencers I was listening to.
Steven Crowder, Dave Rubin, a classical liberal.
The thing, like Fleck was just saying, is that for the conservative side, we are individuals.
We're not monoliths.
I think that's our strength, the fact that we can have people who, I don't know if you guys know, a lot of these high-profile conservatives, they disagree on a lot of things.
It's just that the platforms that they have when they're together, SAS is coming up.
It's very easy in those echo chambers, I guess, because they are, for you to easily see what they all agree on.
But there's a lot of things, Dave Rubin's going to be, there's a lot of things David Rubin disagrees with with Charlie Kirk.
And even Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens, don't think that they agree with each other, but Charlie's not going to fire Candace for her free thinking.
That's the difference.
And that's why I like a lot of them.
I think Candace Owens right now is my favorite.
A lot of people don't like her.
But right now, we already know in 2020, besides Donald Trump himself, she's going to be the biggest voice in politics.
I think Alex Jones gets a lot of flack for being crazy, or people on the right hate him because of some things that he's done, which I gotta say, Redemption, which he's even disavowed some of the crazy things he's done recently and said.
But he was an inspiration.
And the reason why I think that's true is I started to realize when I clicked on videos.
Here's the difference.
To this day, people are like, oh, do you know this person?
And I'm like, no.
And they show me a video.
I'm like, no, I've watched tons of videos by them.
This is why it's hard for me to say who.
Because what the left does, they go, oh, you know, I love Justin Bieber, or I love Justin Timberlake, so I love them.
So let me take everything they say as true.
But the right isn't, I think, even as much about personality as it is about ideas.
And there are some people who represent those ideas well.
So I went from Alex Jones into a pool of ideas and I started getting in contact with all these new voices that I'd never heard.
And I found that old people were edgy and cool, you know, like Gavin.
You're like, whoa, this guy's like pretty sick.
And you know, you even have lovely people like Lauren Southern and people out there that were rocking it.
But I didn't go to them for their name.
I went to them for their ideas.
And so my most that's all I want to say is as the right, I don't look up to anybody.
I look up to people who stand.
And that even as individuals who are not famous or don't have a following, like I look up to a lot of us in this room because of what we fight for and what we stand on, not who follows us.
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So this is going to be the last question.
We're cutting short on time right now.
So what are some words of advice that you guys would have for anyone who are trying to pursue what you guys are trying to do or just for conservatism as it is?
So first thing I would say is don't try to necessarily just like copy people.
Be your own person.
Like Fleckers was talking about before.
It could be, yeah, going out and talking to people.
If that's what you want to do, then yeah.
But it's also finding your niche, finding who you are as a person.
Before I got into this, I was an English major.
I was doing it, pressure from the parents to graduate from college.
I hated it.
I was failing my classes.
I changed my major to journalism.
And the last semester I was supposed to graduate, they kept doing more journalism stuff and then just decided to go out and get a camera and just interview people.
I didn't know who Elijah was.
I seen a couple of Flex's videos, but barely knew who he was.
So me going out was this is it was like a fire in my heart.
Like I explained it before, like as a journalist, I wanted to go find out and do it.
If you're a conservative, do whatever you can to get information out.
There's a lot, just not just Turning Point.
Other organizations like Turning Point, like PragerU does like Prager Force, where he helps share videos, ideas, and whatnot.
Turning Point does a lot of stuff.
You guys have those flyers in your chair talking to people.
Find your liberal friends and talk to them.
If you guys have seen that Willwick video where he asks Libs if they have Republican friends and they all say no, and then he asked conservatives and they said, Yeah, we do, but you know, they kind of hate it when I bring up politics.
I think, like we're explaining before, we have the advantage because we don't blow off our liberal friends.
You know, we may not hang out with them, but you would invite them to your house party or your graduation party.
You would invite them.
They probably wouldn't invite you, but you would invite them.
So, having conversations with people is the best way.
Seek to understand before being understood.
That's the biggest thing.
We live in a society where people don't try to understand each other, and that's why we're so polarized right now.
I think a big advantage for us and going forward is something we need to focus on, and just be cooler than them.
Just be cooler than them because eventually their side is going to eat itself.
They're not going to be able to make certain jokes.
What they're able to work with will get smaller and smaller, and the group will get smaller and smaller.
As long as we're cooler than them, and we're nice, and we're polite, and we're not scared to talk.
I think that's another thing.
If we stop being so silent, I mentioned this in the beginning, but if the silent majority was less silent, it would put a face to our name, it'll put a face to our side, and it'll humanize us more.
Because right now, in the echo chambers, we're getting dehumanized every single day, and people never you know, they think there's Nazis behind every corner, and they create this boogeyman that doesn't exist.
So, if we can just be cool and not be afraid to talk and be able to, you know, deliver our points and show where we're coming from, be willing to change our point of view if we hear a better idea, which is something that we do well, and just consistently do that in an interpersonal way, I think we'll win the culture war.
It's just all going to be about what we do interpersonally.
Just the people you know in your dorm, the people that you sit next to on a flight, people in your family that maybe you don't talk to because of politics.
All these people, if we can talk to them and be rational, polite, and kind and cool, we'll win in a few years.
Yeah, and I want to bring this up: let's play on our strengths.
And here's the truth: you might look at something like the Woman's March coming up January 19th, I believe, and you see that they can get 20, 30, 40,000-plus liberal people to show up, and you feel weak, you feel like you're disenfranchised.
Like, where's our army?
Where's our battle?
But you have to realize that the reason why they are so successful at these rallies is because they are the masses and they are sheep and they follow one shepherd.
So, if you tell them, go to this place, we all like turkeys, they just like flutter over like Orange Man Band, you know, and they're all there, and it's this reality where they're all in this position, and you're like, Man, I wish I had that.
No, we don't wish we were sheep.
And that's the key thing that I want to let you know: don't try to beast a shepherd to pull in the sheep, and don't think that you've got to be some big name in order to be important.
What makes us strong is the very reason why right-wing rallies are typically weak.
Not Donald Trump's rallies, but right-wing rallies can be very weak because we don't need the masses, we're strong as individuals.
And so, your best bet is not to start a YouTube channel or to become a media personality.
It might be your job is to become the strongest representative of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the ideas that make this country great.
Okay, not President Trump, not your political party.
It's to understand fundamentally what you're fighting for, to have conviction and to know where you stand.
And if you're a strong voice, people will listen to you.
And your individuality does not come from recognition.
Don't think that you're smart and your ideas matter when people start to like you more.
Believe it or not, you might be getting smarter, and you might even be getting what's not famous, infamous, and more people might not like you.
But that doesn't make you valueless.
You matter very much, and just because you're an individual, you're not often in the groups you think you're alone.
You're not alone.
Remember the movie 300?
I don't even know if that was real, but I will say that it was great.
CGI.
And the whole point of that movie, though, there's a lesson is that 300 skilled warriors that put thought into it together could do something greater than the masses.
And I will say that's our strength.
This individuals who are strong alone are greater.
You can be one bearded person with a spoon and enter a crowd and suddenly you're defeating a crowd with a cooking utensil.
So I'm just saying that's the truth.
And that's where you have to feel empowered, be empowered, and know that the power is with you and not with the masses.
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Okay, that was great.
So actually, we have some good news if you guys are interested.
So instead of us actually migrating all the way across campus, the administration said it's cool if we do our QA right here for about 20 minutes, then we could actually do a meet and greet outside if you guys are interested in that.
I also had a question about how your teacher has sabotaged your career.
Do you think it's worthwhile to, say, keep quiet in class in order to maintain a career instead of risking it all just to speak up for what could be just a couple months of fun?
I think if you're going to speak out, do your best to calculate the cost and find out if it's worth paying.
And that doesn't make you weak because sometimes the strongest voice and the most free your speech can be is when you have the self-control to shut up.
And so I know that liberties and freedoms are not best contained outwardly, but the true free man is a man who has self-control.
And that includes woman, too, for all those that think I'm a misogynist.
But the reality is, is that, you know what, in that moment, I thought it was worthless.
I thought it was terrible.
I was afraid it frustrated me.
I put all this time and work for nothing.
But I found an alternative.
And that doesn't mean I don't want to take responsibility if someone isn't able to.
So look at yourself and realize this.
And then also ask yourself, am I getting into a career where I can't speak my mind?
So am I putting money or something that I'm thinking is going to make me happy ahead of what I really know I believe in?
And if you're pursuing something and you realize you're going to be unhappy, unsatisfied in it, you might be willing to admit that you might be on the wrong course.
And you might want to think about a better alternative or a path where you can actually feel more free and who you are.
But that's not to say it's not the other way.
So I don't know if that answers your question.
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It does, thank you.
I actually didn't have a question.
I just wanted to thank you guys for coming out.
I know we all appreciate it and I just wanted to vocalize that.
And it's something that gets put in the back burner because men come from the place of privilege so many times.
According to the left, I think it's just going to come down to consistently engaging with people and person to person, finding where you disagree, finding where they're maybe misleading, and trying to expose the truth.
It's all going to be a quest to expose the truth.
And all these battles, all these disagreements can all boil down to who has the truth and who's trying to hide it.
So as long as you come from a place in facts and a place in truth, I think over time we will win.
This is kind of the hard part now, where certain things are misrepresented.
I mean, we're misrepresented, and it seems kind of daunting and impossible to stand up to the mob.
But if people stand up individually, over time we'll win.
I know it's kind of a corny answer, but it's just going to be consistently calling things out when you see injustice and being prepared to talk about it.
Yeah, so I'll just add something to that real quick.
Basically, we know that men are under attack because we see the destruction of the family.
We see the single motherhood rate in all communities is too high.
Divorce rate, you look at the divorce rate right now, and that's basically what the culture war is about: destroying the family.
When you destroy the family, you don't have fathers in the home teaching boys how to be men.
And then basically, current feminism is about anti-man.
So that's why if you do anything as a man, you can't talk about abortion, you can't talk about anything because you're a man.
It's my body.
I do what I want with it.
And it's these silence tactics that try to make men look and feel inferior than not saying that men are superior, but I'm saying than what they actually are.
And when people ask you about it, be willing to talk about it and be proud of it.
And then that spreads a lot more than people realize.
And then if you hold yourself to a high standard and you have kids and they hold themselves to a high standard, it really does spread over time and it's powerful.
Just start with yourself, start internally, and then it'll naturally, you know, go out from there.
Yeah, and I'd like to leave on this comment for your question: is that the attack on men is actually a push to make people dependent on the state.
And it's a typical left-wing idea, which is to break up family units so that the family is no longer responsible for raising the child, for teaching the child, for providing for the child, but the person is dependent upon the state for all of the above.
And obviously, that in that turn, that brings power.
That also brings a subservient population because the population can no longer defend themselves.
They must keep the state for their pure survival.
And so by demeaning men, not only does it break down the way that families are best operated and run, not everyone came from a nuclear family, as the left calls it.
That doesn't mean you're a bad person or you're a good person because you came from one.
What it means is that they are trying to dismantle the very pillars of our society.
And so by taking down men and making men weak, I mean, half the people I interview, I don't want to fight, don't let them be drafted.
If you want them to not be drafted, please.
Because I know some women stronger than some of these little soy boys.
And so, you know, as men, our responsibility is not just because we're misogynist and we're trying to keep power.
We realize that in order to have a strong country, you need strong men.
And in order to have a good society, you need good men and honest men.
And so if they fight against us, they're fighting against their own peace in our country, and we're not going to let that happen.
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Hello, and uh, my question was that I'm somebody who's very like I'm very scared to like come out as like a someone who's conservative, you know, even like saying to myself like hey, I'm a Trump supporter or something, like it's really hard just to say to myself, and I'm really scared to just tell it to my peers because I'm really scared to lose friendships and stuff like that because I think they're very sacred and I treasure them a lot.
So I know if I came out even as a conservative, I would lose friends and I'm really scared to do that.
I was wondering what advice you guys had on that and how I would go through that.
So I'm not the most empathetic, I guess, with this.
Whenever people tell me this, I'm always like, well, they're not your real friends.
They're idiots.
Like, who cares?
That kind of thing.
And that's like my instinct reaction.
But that's not the answer.
And I'm going to try and be better about that.
If you were to tell your friends who know you really well after years, months, whatever it is, and you sat them down and said, hey, I support the president that won the election, and they, after that, are going to hate you and turn on you, it's kind of like, all right, maybe there's some better friends for you somewhere else in your own, you know, within the college community.
I would just go at them in a polite way and like almost like an intervention.
Like kind of like bring your top five friends, like sit them down like this.
It seems crazy, but I think if you did it that way, and maybe, you know, you'll know what they're going to say.
You know, how can you feel that way as this person?
Or how can you feel this way based on what he said about this?
Like, you know, have your defense ready.
But I think if you reached out to them in a polite way and tried to engage, I think they'll break away first and they'll stop first.
And maybe you will lose a couple friends, but I think if you search for the community that exists within the right and that's growing, I think you'll be happier in the long run.
Because I lost a bunch of my friends when I started making my channel, like all my friends that I knew over time just like, you know, fell out of my life.
But the people that I became closer with on the conservative side, it's like for as many friends as I lost, I was caught by the right when I kind of jumped in.
And they caught me.
And there is a major support group on the right.
The community on the right is stronger than the left.
There's just, we're just less vocal about it.
So for as many friends as you're going to lose, you're going to gain 10 times more.
So my advice, and I always tell people this, is stop trying to make friends.
Basically.
Honestly, the concept of friendship, it's honestly embedded in our culture.
People don't know how to be friends.
People don't understand what friendship is.
Just stop trying to make friends because what's going to happen is that you live your life the way you want to live it.
You make your decisions according to the integrity of your heart.
And the people who need to be around you will be around you.
You don't need to worry about, okay, if I'm a conservative and I'm going to lose this person.
And like Fleck was saying, if they don't love you and care for you as who you are, then they're not your real friends.
And that's why for me, I stopped trying to make friends a long time ago.
And the people who are around my life, they're around my life.
You know, I met Elijah, I met Fleckis, you know, I have friends in here who I've met who just stuck around, you know, but I didn't try to make them my friend.
I just lived my life and I lived my life according to the integrity of my heart and these people showed up around me.
And there's always going to be better people.
You know, I know people think that we're all equal in some way, but there's some people who are very crappy people.
Honestly, it's true.
Some people are very crappy people and there's better people out there who can be around you.
For a lot of people say, well, okay, if I lose these people, I'm going to be alone.
And I'm someone bringing humanity into this.
I hate being alone.
I hate the idea of being, not feeling like I have a support system.
And so, you know, whenever I conservatives say, but there aren't any conservatives, it's like the crying girl who's never dated and is like, there's no good guys out there.
It'll be tough in the beginning, but in the end, down the road, the community that the friends you have from the conservative community will be ten times better.
