Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer - Californians Decimated by Slightly Offens*ve
Aired: 2018-10-11
Duration: 12:29


=== Talking About Trump's Border Wall (05:23) ===

[00:00:00]  I don't always care about facts.
[00:00:02]  I care about like other people's happiness.
[00:00:10]  Well, as a trans non-binary person, I do appreciate having a gender-neutral space for children.
[00:00:17]  I mean, kids need to be able to grow up in a place where they feel accepted and, you know, where they're allowed to be in.
[00:00:23]  That being said, I understand why Girl Scouts has tried to keep themselves in a gender-specific kind of space because women are still, you know, a sort of oppressed group in America.
[00:00:36]  How are they oppressed?
[00:00:38]  You want me to get into a couple, like five facts?
[00:00:42]  Oh, five facts.
[00:00:45]  I mean, lived experience.
[00:00:47]  Yeah.
[00:00:47]  Probably should talk about the wage gap that still exists in America.
[00:00:52]  Should talk about the fact that women make 73 cents on the dollar to men, but it's been debunked and proven that they just have different life choices.
[00:01:00]  And then if women actually made less money than men, why wouldn't companies just hire women?
[00:01:06]  Yeah, I don't believe that because I've taken a couple feminist theory classes.
[00:01:09]  Off the top of my head, I can't actually state any facts.
[00:01:12]  I wish I could pull some up right now.
[00:01:15]  But no, it is definitely a sexist world that we live in.
[00:01:19]  As a reporter myself, I'd like to say that it's interesting that you're inserting your own view when you're asking these questions and kind of inserting your comments in between in order to kind of change the dialogue.
[00:01:31]  I don't think that that's necessarily the kind of approach that most reporters would say is...
[00:01:36]  I'm not most reporters.
[00:01:37]  Yeah, you're not.
[00:01:38]  No.
[00:01:40]  Why did he deserve a Nobel Peace Prize?
[00:01:43]  Like, okay, I get it.
[00:01:44]  Like, okay, he ended the war.
[00:01:46]  But he just striked.
[00:01:48]  What did he strike?
[00:01:49]  Syria, I think?
[00:01:50]  Yeah, he just striked them.
[00:01:52]  So how he going to do that?
[00:01:53]  And the war, but trying to start another one.
[00:01:55]  Let me ask you this.
[00:01:56]  President Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 after a few months in office.
[00:02:00]  And he actually is the one that started strikes in Syria.
[00:02:02]  And he also started strikes in Yemen.
[00:02:04]  He started strikes in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia.
[00:02:07]  He started eight different strikes around the world, and he got the Nobel Peace Prize.
[00:02:10]  So on those grounds, wouldn't that still qualify Donald Trump for the Peace Prize?
[00:02:14]  Nice.
[00:02:15]  But Obama is great.
[00:02:17]  Obama is real good.
[00:02:19]  Let's talk about the good things he didn't do.
[00:02:21]  He didn't bought us Obamacare.
[00:02:22]  He didn't bought us some other things.
[00:02:26]  Obama is just good.
[00:02:27]  And he won two turns.
[00:02:29]  I don't think Donald Trump is going to get his second term.
[00:02:31]  What's your name, man?
[00:02:31]  Yabali.
[00:02:32]  Yabali.
[00:02:33]  We're here to talk and ask people what they think about Trump's building the southern border wall.
[00:02:36]  Is it a good idea or a bad idea?
[00:02:38]  I think it's a bad idea.
[00:02:39]  Last Mexican president actually expelled over 150,000 people out of his country.
[00:02:42]  So if Mexico believes that it's right to expel people out of their country and protect their borders, why do we not have the right to do the same with our southern partner?
[00:02:49]  Well, it's kind of hard to explain how, but they just don't want, they don't, they have, they don't like the idea, the one he made.
[00:02:56]  So what would be the benefits of not having a border?
[00:02:58]  Just destroy it, let them pass, probably.
[00:03:01]  Okay, and what would be the negative sides of having a border?
[00:03:06]  Carl, this is a hard part.
[00:03:08]  What'd you say?
[00:03:09]  It's a hard part.
[00:03:09]  A hard question.
[00:03:12]  Yeah, I just wish they can blow up the border.
[00:03:18]  I just wish people can come in.
[00:03:20]  Want to blow it up?
[00:03:20]  What kind of explosives do we use to blow up the border wall?
[00:03:23]  Look, like hammer or C4 or something?
[00:03:25]  Like explosive hammers?
[00:03:26]  Yeah, explosive hammers.
[00:03:28]  Okay, that's pretty good.
[00:03:29]  And other than like explosive hammers and those kinds of things, where do you think we could get the explosive hammers?
[00:03:35]  We're going to ask the military guys if they can understand what does.
[00:03:38]  They want have a new lie.
[00:03:40]  They want to make new friends, new family, new jobs, new cars.
[00:03:43]  All right, so you're in college and you're looking at me right now.
[00:03:47]  I mean, you have eyes, right?
[00:03:48]  You're not blind.
[00:03:49]  No.
[00:03:49]  And you accepting that I am a black gay woman.
[00:03:53]  Yes.
[00:03:53]  Why?
[00:03:56]  You said you wanted to be one, so I guess that's what you are.
[00:04:00]  Okay, so if I wanted to be a bicycle, would you agree that I'm a bicycle?
[00:04:06]  I mean, I guess in my head, I wouldn't walk past you and think he's a bicycle.
[00:04:11]  But if you kept telling me you're a bicycle, I guess I would just, in my head, let you be a bicycle.
[00:04:15]  I believe it's a bad idea.
[00:04:17]  Could you explain why you believe it's a bad idea?
[00:04:19]  Because everyone should be treated the same.
[00:04:22]  I don't think people from Mexico should be borderline.
[00:04:25]  I think they should be part of our country.
[00:04:27]  So if you know that the Constitution actually outlines that the president's job is to secure our borders and to secure the sovereignty of our country, so by doing that, he's actually just doing his job.
[00:04:35]  Do you think that he's doing the right thing by following the Constitution or the wrong thing in that place?
[00:04:39]  I mean, I feel he's doing the wrong thing because many presidents before him haven't done what he's trying to do now.
[00:04:44]  Like, did you know that President Obama deported more Hispanics to Mexico than any president before him?
[00:04:50]  No, I did not know that.
[00:04:51]  And did you know that President Obama also deployed and militarized the southern border with National Guard before Trump ever did that?
[00:04:58]  No, I did not know that.
[00:05:01]  But it's pretty crazy how that happened and everything like that.
[00:05:04]  With all the fallback that comes from being transgender and all the problems you receive, it's not so much a mental issue as it is just an issue in society, I think.

=== Judge Of Your Own Role (07:20) ===

[00:05:12]  Okay, so who decides what's mental issues?
[00:05:14]  The doctors.
[00:05:16]  Yeah, so basically the scientists decided it was, but you said it's a social issue, so who changed it to being a social issue?
[00:05:25]  Sorry.
[00:05:26]  It's just that no one changed my opinions.
[00:05:29]  I see that and I don't see it as a mental issue.
[00:05:32]  I don't think it's a mental problem.
[00:05:33]  You're kind of like the judge of your own role, basically?
[00:05:35]  Yeah, I would say that.
[00:05:37]  So then who decides truth?
[00:05:39]  I'd leave that up to the doctors and which decided it's a mental illness.
[00:05:43]  Yeah, fine men and women who actually put their lives into, you know, deciding these things.
[00:05:49]  Right, so the ones that you put your trust in decided it was a mental disorder.
[00:05:53]  So then wouldn't that make it a mental disorder?
[00:05:55]  Yeah, that makes me wrong.
[00:05:56]  Do you believe in that there's more than two genders?
[00:05:58]  Yes, I do, actually.
[00:05:59]  How many genders are there?
[00:06:02]  I don't know how many genders there are, but I just know everybody is who they want to be.
[00:06:08]  Female, male, liquid, whatever they call themselves.
[00:06:12]  So like liquid, like how do you identify as a liquid?
[00:06:15]  Liquid transgender.
[00:06:17]  I've heard that that's people that just, one day they just want to dress as females, some days they want to dress like more maleish.
[00:06:23]  That's as far as I know as I've seen on.
[00:06:26]  But you do say you're a believer in science, correct?
[00:06:28]  Yes.
[00:06:29]  Okay, so are you familiar with genetics?
[00:06:31]  Yes.
[00:06:31]  Okay, so did you know on our 23rd chromosome, it's actually our XRY or XX, which determine our sex.
[00:06:37]  And basically in every human being, we have a component inside of us that determines whether we're male or female.
[00:06:43]  And there's actually no genetic alternative that tells us whether we're anything different.
[00:06:46]  Although there are some anomalies, like Kleinfelter syndrome, which you could be intersex.
[00:06:50]  It's a rare genetic anomaly.
[00:06:52]  Being the fact that our sex actually determines who we are, do you think it's possible then for someone to be male or born female and then turn into the opposite gender?
[00:07:03]  Yeah.
[00:07:04]  How so?
[00:07:06]  I don't know, but I'm born female, and then I have feelings for other females.
[00:07:12]  Right, which would be bisexualism, which is sexual attraction, which has nothing to do with your gender?
[00:07:16]  Yeah, I don't know, but I believe in that.
[00:07:20]  I believe that that could happen now.
[00:07:23]  So what defines someone's gender?
[00:07:26]  How do you define when someone's a male or a female?
[00:07:30]  Honestly, I wouldn't know how to answer that.
[00:07:32]  Then how can we guarantee they could change it if we don't even know how they are what they are?
[00:07:36]  That's a good question.
[00:07:39]  Don't know.
[00:07:40]  I don't know.
[00:07:41]  I'm a non-binary man, so there's a part of me that's not entirely man.
[00:07:46]  And there's a part of me that's non-binary as well.
[00:07:49]  I identify as bi-gender.
[00:07:50]  I'm a femme boy, so I'm a man who sometimes, or most of the time, dresses up or experiences the female side of me.
[00:07:57]  So in the 2016 election, who did you vote for?
[00:08:00]  I don't even remember who was running.
[00:08:03]  Did you vote?
[00:08:05]  I think, I'm pretty sure I did, yeah.
[00:08:07]  No, I didn't.
[00:08:08]  I did not.
[00:08:09]  No.
[00:08:09]  Okay, so who do you think was running in 2016?
[00:08:11]  Like, if you had to take a guess.
[00:08:13]  Wasn't it Obama and Close?
[00:08:17]  Wasn't it?
[00:08:17]  No, it was.
[00:08:18]  Let's try this.
[00:08:19]  I believe in you.
[00:08:21]  2016, what is it?
[00:08:22]  It is currently 2018.
[00:08:27]  The election was in the...
[00:08:29]  It was too...
[00:08:31]  Who was it?
[00:08:32]  It was.
[00:08:33]  I'll give you a hint.
[00:08:34]  He's got orange skin.
[00:08:36]  Oh, it was Trump and freaking Clinton.
[00:08:39]  I've been saying this, like, all day.
[00:08:41]  Why are the cops here?
[00:08:43]  Probably to protect people.
[00:08:44]  Don't you guys want to be protected?
[00:08:46]  Well, security does not equal police.
[00:08:49]  And police, like, in the United States, are like way over-militarized.
[00:08:54]  And so they're a force that are harming people more often.
[00:08:57]  So then who would protect us with guns in case there was like a terrorist attack or something?
[00:09:00]  That's just like my question.
[00:09:02]  Security does not equal police.
[00:09:04]  We don't have to have police here.
[00:09:05]  There's like maybe private citizens with guns or not?
[00:09:08]  No, It's like armed security?
[00:09:11]  think so I think that it's just that the police are not trained well and there's not like a lot doing security are trained better than police I don't think that.
[00:09:20]  I think that there's like a widespread harm being done from all of these like well militarized like forces against citizens.
[00:09:31]  And I don't have a solution to be honest with you, but I know that it's not to have militarized police at any event.
[00:09:37]  Okay, so gender isn't real.
[00:09:40]  Well then I have a question.
[00:09:41]  Shouldn't they probably cancel the Girl Scouts?
[00:09:44]  I mean they could change the name because like it's also scouts and they do some different stuff.
[00:09:50]  So like the one could be for people who want to do more outdoorsy stuff and the other could be for I don't know what the Girl Scouts do.
[00:09:58]  Guys can join the Girl Scouts or guys can work at Girl Scout camp at least.
[00:10:03]  Working is different.
[00:10:03]  I mean I work, I mean there's like all boys schools and there's female teachers.
[00:10:08]  You said that gender isn't real.
[00:10:10]  Could you explain that?
[00:10:12]  I mean it's really however you want to perceive yourself like masculinity and femininity or anything in between and like the sex that you were born with doesn't really matter for how you want to identify.
[00:10:24]  So maybe we should only let girls who identify as boys join the Boy Scouts?
[00:10:29]  No.
[00:10:31]  Because gender is definitely like it's not necessary.
[00:10:35]  It's kind of like I guess it's more like mentally kind of if that makes sense.
[00:10:41]  Where'd you learn that?
[00:10:43]  Here?
[00:10:45]  Personal experience.
[00:10:46]  So what do you think?
[00:10:46]  Do you agree or disagree?
[00:10:49]  I think that there are certain like standards like gender standards that are placed in the Boy Scouts where it's like, oh, like to become men, it's like you have to do these things.
[00:10:59]  It's like straw.
[00:11:00]  Like strong, brave, learn how to use skills and then.
[00:11:06]  Do you like those skills in guys?
[00:11:08]  They're fine.
[00:11:10]  I think they're positive skills?
[00:11:12]  Yeah, I mean, as long as it's not just like...
[00:11:15]  If we have to go to war, do you want weak, non-brave men out on the battlefield?
[00:11:19]  No.
[00:11:19]  Right, we want like strong, brave men who can lead our country.
[00:11:21]  So wouldn't that be good to have like the Boy Scouts?
[00:11:24]  Do you want to get drafted as well?
[00:11:26]  Yeah, I mean that's.
[00:11:27]  Can you pick me up?
[00:11:28]  Can you pick me up and carry me?
[00:11:30]  Currently, no.
[00:11:32]  That's all I'm asking.
[00:11:33]  If I got shot, who want to try?
[00:11:35]  There are definitely people who could be able to do that.
[00:11:38]  I'm 205 pounds, but if we let women have the exact same rights and they need to be drafted too, right?
[00:11:43]  I mean, yeah, but like, that's not.
[00:11:46]  It's not really fair, right?
[00:11:46]  If I can die for my country, you don't have to.
[00:11:48]  And you get to reap the benefits.
[00:11:49]  No, I mean, that's why I'm saying that everybody should be drafted, and like, it doesn't really matter.
[00:11:53]  But if you're drafted and you're on the battlefield, how could you carry me if I was wounded?
[00:11:56]  Well, I'd go through military training, and obviously, I'd get stronger.
[00:11:59]  And so would I. I'd probably gain 30 or 40 pounds.
[00:12:01]  Okay, well, there are other, like, people who are, like, stronger than me, and they would be able to actually carry you.
[00:12:08]  Right, so I'm saying, so that's probably good then that we have individual groups in our society that train men how to become strong and brave?
[00:12:14]  Um, yes, in certain aspects, but I but I don't know how to answer that.
[00:12:20]  So, you think they do that maybe because there's differences between men and women?
[00:12:24]  I don't know how to answer that.
[00:12:28]  You think there's differences between men and women?