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Arena Tours and Middle East00:01:30
Andrew Schultz is with us.
Your new special out on Netflix right now.
Yes, sir.
Title.
Life.
You did a huge tour, arena tour all over the world.
A lot of Middle Eastern countries.
A lot.
You're loved there.
You feel Amelie Schultz.
You do the stadiums in like in the wildest.
You'll be like in a soccer stadium in like Bahrain.
You're like Qatar.
It's wild.
Well, if you do a decade of like women are annoying jokes, you really ingratiate yourself.
A decade of pitch get in the kitchen.
People start to go, we like this guy.
What is different?
Is there anything different about doing comedy over there?
Honestly, they're all educated in America.
It's like more similar to doing like you've done Europe, right?
Yeah.
And you know how like there's they're like aware of shit, but they also have their own TV shows.
So like they're also not aware.
Yeah.
Whereas in the Middle East, like they get all of our shit because they're not making their own TV shows really.
Right.
So they're way more aware of you know, just random references.
And like they all get educated here and not at fucking NYU.
Do you get a talk?
Is there any?
Because I've never done anything over there.
I told them, don't tell me.
So they come to you, like Live Nation comes to you, and then they'll come to your manager and shit.
And they'll say, hey, and I just say, just don't tell me.
Don't say XYZ.
Just don't tell me.
The American Dream in Malibu00:09:47
Gotcha.
Okay.
But I just don't want to know.
Because that was my question.
Is there something where they go, don't?
Hey.
Yeah.
I mean, don't talk about Mo.
Like, I think that's like the basic rule.
What's that?
Muhammad.
Like, you can't.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like, I even had some like, I thought you met Mo Amer.
I'm like, he's FBM.
They threaten you.
They're like, do not speak about him.
I'm like, that's interesting.
That makes sense.
But besides that, like, I had jokes about like Muslims and shit like that.
They were cool with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They've all went to school at like central Tennessee State.
Like they know?
Yeah, they know America America.
Right, okay.
So they're not at all like worried about it.
Yeah, interesting.
I was in Abu Dhabi, though, so it's maybe a little different than if you're going to, you know, Saudi Arabia.
I want to do, I want to just do, because I'm not going to be able to sell the tickets you sell, but I want to do Pakistan.
Like, put me in real, kind of small.
You got to get that black radical.
I don't want any Westernization.
I want radical places where I can go where it's like real deal nightmare.
Did you cover the story of the chick from Brooklyn who was in Pakistan?
She was the story in Pakistan, for you know it's amazing.
And get some of her up, because that's, to me, is what the Costco family should have been.
Okay, like that woman that you know, you know the Costco obviously, the cookie people double chunk chocolate cookies oh uh, the BOOM or whatever.
Yeah yeah yeah, AJ and Big Justice and the whole gang yeah, to me it's my Costco family was this woman who went to meet a dude in Pakistan and they're all being nice to her, they're buying her McDonald's, like the Pakistani people kind of absorbed this.
They thought it was amazing, they welcomed her yeah, and she went over to meet a man yeah, and then she wanted 50 grand yeah, to fix Pakistan.
Though she was like right, give me 50 grand, I'm gonna fix the roads, the railways.
Yeah, we're fixing Pakistan.
That's a crazy quit.
We're.
Building airports and she just met a dude online.
Yeah, that she catfished.
And then so when she he was down until she pulled up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He thought she was different.
Yep.
He thought she was a different thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This woman.
Yeah, I mean, she looks so cool.
I love the way she looks.
She just has like a get a video of her up because she's making demands of the Pakistani government where she's like, I saw her sitting over there.
Yeah, there you go.
American woman who arrived in Karachi.
Did they, did they flew her home?
I think they flew her to Dubai and then something happened in Dubai.
She might have been a little bit more.
You could only tolerate that for so long before, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, here she is.
An amazing woman.
Paper, that y'all going to give us money tomorrow or by the ending of this week.
We need 50K.
We need 50K.
It's the most American thing to show up to another country and then ask for money to fix their country.
There's nothing more American than showing up going like, I'd like to fix your country.
That's so funny.
Like, why did we react like she was doing something so crazy?
No, this is all we do.
This is Iraq.
This is Iraq.
This is Afghanistan.
This is Afghanistan.
This is everything.
This is the most.
Yeah.
We're just like, you need our shit.
Yeah.
You just need what we got.
And we just need 100 grand.
That's all we need.
We need a little money to give you what you want.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's what we do.
That's our game.
Can I ask you a question, Tim?
Have you spoken on your show about your recent photo shoot?
Have you talked about it yet?
No.
The one in California?
Yeah, the California photo shoot.
Because I saw it proliferating the internet and I was incredibly impressed.
You know, people don't think of me as a model, but the definitions are changing.
And I wanted to go down and see the devastation of the California wildfires.
And because, again, I sold my home here.
I was lucky enough not to have a house burned down, but that doesn't matter.
Doesn't really matter because like a casino, anything can happen to anyone at any time.
I've paid taxes here.
I've lived here.
I've participated in this culture.
I wanted to kind of spend some time with the nightmarish reality of what fire can do.
So I went down there.
And the National Guard has stops you in the Palisades and they stop you going into Malibu.
And you got to have, you got to take out your license and you got to have a good line of shed.
And so you had, well, how'd you get in?
What was my producer sitting in the front row of the front seat of my car and he looks like a junkie because he's from California.
So they look like the drug addicts.
They have long hair and they have a stupid look to them and they're all glazed over.
And I, and I, he actually said to me, he goes, just say you're dropping me off at a sober living.
And I go, wow.
So we stopped.
The National Guard guy stopped us and he goes, what are you doing?
I said, we're taking this kid to a sober living.
And they were like, good for you.
And I went, yeah, it is.
Yeah, yeah.
It is actually.
And then we drove there and I just started taking some photos in the wreckage, which I think we can find pretty easily.
Yeah, they were nice.
I mean, any specific homes?
Like, were they no, they were just things that I saw that caught my eye.
I don't think they'll ever rebuild it there.
I don't think they will ever, I don't think they will ever like, I mean, people are saying that they'll rebuild it, but would you rebuild it?
Would you build another $20 million house in an area where that could happen?
Okay.
This is so interesting that you're even saying this.
I was talking to the all-in guys earlier.
Yeah.
And I think it was Chamath was saying this, like, this idea that there's like a home on like 0.4 acres that's worth $100 million.
It's crazy.
So there's just these crazy ideas that we need to completely rethink.
Get rid of.
I agree with you.
And they were speaking in economic terms that are like far beyond my understanding and shit.
But just this idea that like.
It's far beyond their understanding.
They're fair and all in people.
I'm kidding.
I like them.
I like those criminals.
They said an interesting thing.
And you probably know about this from your time doing mortgages or whatever, that like pushing the American dream of like purchasing a home.
Yeah.
Right.
And that the, I guess the U.S. government has inflated, I'm going to say inflated the market, but in an effort to push people and support that market, essentially not letting that market fail, which it would suck if it would fail, obviously.
They've inflated the prices of these homes and essentially priced out the first generation of people to buy homes.
For sure.
Now they're much more expensive.
They've done a lot of things.
It's the main thing in our country is the main dream is that everyone owns a home.
Yes.
So number one, we're one of the only countries with a 30-year fixed mortgage.
Nobody takes a loan out and gets 30 years of stability at one rate.
And the reason that we're able to do that is the government came up with these things called GSEs, government-sponsored entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
And they give what they call an implicit guarantee.
So they back it no matter what.
Back it.
And even though it's not explicit, it's like implicit.
Like you understand that it's going to be okay.
It creates a security necessary for the market.
Exactly.
So it allows a bank to go out and lend a 30-year fixed mortgage at a favorable rate.
They also depress interest rates so that people can get in the game.
And then they create these asset bubbles where like houses are worth an absurd amount of money.
And, you know, I mean, look at this, right?
So this is a car.
Yeah.
You know, people just left.
This is how quickly these things came on.
That's a Bentley burnt.
Go to the next photo.
That's someone's house.
You look slim.
Burnt.
I look great in that.
I really think you do.
Yeah.
I think that's a great photo of me.
And you know what?
It's worth whatever happened in the background.
I think so, too.
And look, so take a look at all of this.
Here's my question.
Here's my issue.
You really start to realize once these houses are gone, it's kind of interesting.
It's like LA when Hollywood is kind of died.
It's like, it's almost like this town is now like Cinderella.
You know, it turned into the pumpkin.
And she's like, so what?
It's a pumpkin.
And you're like, no, bitch, it's supposed to be a carriage.
We're supposed to believe it's a carriage.
You look at that shoreline.
I don't think anything on that's worth anything.
Isn't it funny?
Straight up.
You look at that and you go, what the fuck is that?
Somebody spent $80 million to live here.
Somebody spent $70 million to live on that shoreline with that gray water and that overcast sky.
It's like when crypto hits zero and you just go, oh, yeah, that's how much it should be.
Right.
And then the only reason Malibu was ever Malibu was because Hollywood was in LA.
So you wanted to be two hours or an hour or an hour and a half, depending on where you were, from the epicenter of Hollywood.
And now you're like, well, if Hollywood's not centered in LA and it doesn't have this, then Malibu, it's still, Malibu might not be Malibu anymore.
People might just go, fuck it.
I'm going to get a beautiful home in Mexico.
I'm going to get a beautiful home in the islands.
I'm going to go somewhere else because the world now is smaller and people are more comfortable going other places.
They don't need to be an hour and a half.
So what do you think happens with LA?
Like, give me the next like five, 10 years.
It could become a vassal state of China, meaning like, and I'm kind of for that, where Chinese billionaires come in and just buy all the real estate.
So like Vancouver.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Canada's the future of a lot of things.
Where Canada, it's peaceful, it's calm.
No one's getting rich.
It's full socialism where people get mad at me for saying that, but I don't mean in like the economic sense.
I understand that it's capitalist, whatever, blah, blah, blah, but I mean like no wine bar.
Come in and get pizza.
Nobody cares.
No one's drinking.
You go into the supermarket.
Soulless Corporate Hell00:06:31
There's two types of peanut butter.
It's a soulless corporate hell.
And you walk around and it's just like, you know, I was kidding around like they should have places just called warm.
It's warm in here.
Like it's nothing unique.
There's nothing interesting in most parts of Canada.
It's just natural beauty.
That's kind of what I worry about with LA because there is, you know, the only thing that made LA interesting at all was the fact that it was the home of myth.
It was the home of pretend.
It's a city with a college football team.
Yeah.
That's what Hollywood is.
Yeah.
And then if the football team leaves the city, it's over.
So what do you think happens to Columbus, Ohio, if Ohio State leaves?
That's right.
And Les Wexner.
If Les Wexner and Ohio State leave, it's over.
Give him immunity.
Shout out to Les.
Give him immunity.
You think he talks?
No.
He's 90 years old.
No.
What does he have to lose?
He's 90 years old.
You know, here's what they have to lose.
Why let him win at 90?
Why open your fat yap at 90?
So you could, do you die with some peace?
Peace?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I don't think he wants peace.
No, what is peace is?
I think he's gotten a piece.
I think he's got more than one piece.
That's probably it.
I think these guys, and it's fascinating, because if you look at the ruling class, you go, the vast majority of them have no idea what's going on.
They just know that the shrimp is good.
Who is the ruling class to you now?
Me, you, Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan.
No.
Like, is it still the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers?
No, no, no.
It's just, you know, the richest, most powerful, politically connected people in society.
Like, this guy owns a bunch of companies.
He's a big political donor.
He's got a lot of friends.
You know, you would.
So are the Ivy League Nepo babies, are they like, are they masquerading as the ruling class?
They're all like in trouble.
They came to my party in Nanhamptons.
They all want to be like comedians and writers.
I mean, they're in trouble.
So that's the thing I was wondering.
Like, I said.
They almost dropped dead when you walked in.
I go, your families killed people.
He goes, that's Andrew Schultz.
I'm like, what happened here?
So there's this, like, I saw this post, like the oldest hotel in the world, like in Japan.
It's like, starting the year 703 and it stayed in the same family for 52 generations.
Yes.
Right.
And you look at that and you're like, well, that's kind of impressive because you look at these American families and within three or four generations, all the wealth is completely gone.
And you're right.
They all want to be comedians and writers and all this shit.
Because they've been rich.
So they're bored.
Yes.
And they go, they want to be famous.
And also we got this thing here, which it's like, you know, follow your dreams and do whatever you want, which I think we need to push.
Don't get me wrong.
But there's like a little.
There's, yeah.
But what we don't have any of here is, what is that thing where it's like, my dad was a cobbler and I'm a cobbler.
What is that called?
I agree with you, but you're right.
And I don't know the term for it, but it's certainly a, it's, it's, number one, it's a respect for history.
It's this idea that you and your family specialize in something and that you must carry on that tradition.
And there's like societal utility in it and you're not a loser for following in your family's footsteps.
That's right.
You're actually doing something honorable and carrying off.
That's why succession was such a good show because the whole show is Logan looking at his firstborn son and going, you're a pussy.
You'll never be able to do what I do.
You'll be eaten alive out here.
And a lot of these guys, the Les Wexners, now he has kids.
I'm sure they're lovely people.
But he's probably looking at them going, you guys are soft.
You're never going to be able to put a Ukrainian woman in a crate.
You're never going to be able to do it.
Now, so what?
So what?
And it doesn't mean they're bad.
They're not bad people, the kids, but I think Les Wexner looks at them and goes, you'll never be able to do what I had to do to get here.
You're never going to have to watch.
You're never going to be able to sit in a room while the mafia tortures some guy to get him to do something like you guys don't have it.
You grew up watching Degrassi and your sweet kids.
And I think there's part of that because.
But do they want them to do it?
That's the thing that no, probably not.
They don't.
So there's all this like ego in it where we're like, you're a pussy.
You can't do what I do, but I really don't want you to do what I do.
I don't want you to have to do it.
Just go and do something nice.
Make your mother happy.
Yeah.
Because I believe less.
And again, nope, shade.
No shade to less.
No shade at all.
No shade to less flex.
No shade.
I think he's one of the guys who, whatever he did, didn't do.
There are people that I believe are operators.
I don't think it's most of those people.
I think most of the people are like, we're rich.
This is good.
I have a, I work in this thing.
I work at this bank.
Yeah.
My wife is cool that I disappear occasionally.
Yeah.
And I come back.
I think there are guys, though, that know how things work and can make things happen to a degree.
You're talking about like real power.
Yeah, those guys who like.
Yeah, there's probably 10% of the rich people that are kind of going, hey, let's, you know, make something happen.
Let's, yeah, let's move industry in a way that's favorable for them.
Yeah, I mean, there's probably a lot more bad money mixed in with good money than people think.
I think people think they look at drugs and weapons trafficking and human trafficking and all these things.
And they kind of in their head, they put it into one group.
Yeah, as if that family is different than the Sacklers or something like that.
Right.
Or if that money and Wall Street money ain't all fucking together.
Yeah.
And if all this money isn't together, like all this money's hanging out together.
Money's friends with money.
Oh, so a cartel boss, you're saying, might be friends with maybe not the boss of the cartel, but whoever's managing the money at UBS for the cartel.
A thousand percent.
He's also managing the money for the MIT endowment or something.
Some of these guys now with the Epstein case, they all have to come out, these guys.
It was just a guy in Europe that had to do it, a guy in the UK.
And he goes, I, because he was managing all the Epstein's money.
And it was for barclays, I believe.
I believe.
Get this right because I don't want to piss off.
I want to get killed by the right people.
But they were, and they were going, you had this business relationship with, yeah, this, yeah, right.
So this is a guy here, Jess Stanley, Stanley.
And he was basically, they said to him, they go, hey, man, why are you still working with Jeffrey Epstein long after you knew he had all these problems?
And the guy's going like, the real answer is the money's green.
Epstein Money Cartels00:03:56
Yeah.
But he can't say that.
He has to go, well, I don't, you know, I mean, it's hard to, well, I mean, you know, but the reality is the money is green.
Began his second day in the witness box at his appeal against a proposed ban, a 1.8 million pound fine, saying he had no idea about the late financier Epstein's, quote, monstrous activities.
So everybody's just got to run around now and say, hey, we're sorry we took the money.
But everybody takes the money.
Do we even care that they took it?
I feel like we're just looking for somebody to punish.
So now we're just going down the ladder and we're like, okay, you're assistant.
You knew.
Yeah.
We want closer.
We want justice closure or something.
So I think that we're trying to isolate these people and go, all right, we'll get you.
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What are your thoughts on JD Vance?
Smart.
Very smart.
Had him on the show.
Oh, you spoke to him.
Had him on the show, interviewed him.
Yeah, what was your election?
How prepared was he for you?
I think prepared.
Like he was acutely aware.
Yeah, I think JD Vance is a guy who's wanted to be at the highest levels of political life for a very long time, like Kamala Harris.
Yeah.
They're not dissimilar in that way.
Right.
Whereas I think Donald Trump's kind of a guy who's like just this wrecking ball of fame and, you know, interesting these raw political instincts.
JD Vance is a trained operator.
Emotional intelligence through the roof.
Very high, knows what he's doing, has to tech people, has the Catholics.
Disarming.
Disarming.
He's got a little bit of that like Clinton disarming with the accent.
I think understands a lot of where, what is motivating and incentivizing people right now in the political sphere.
Now, what they do in the next four years and how it plays out is going to, I think, determine his future because he will, I think, to an extent own whatever happens.
So here's the thing.
What does he believe?
That's my only concern with him.
Like I'm in, I'm impressed with the guy that like comes from like a really tough family situation, broke, goes to Yale, navigates the IV league thing without having any sort of like familial connectivity to it and really nothing to offer in value.
It's not like I can understand if he was like a brilliantly talented minority or something and there was like tenorancy.
He was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah.
Wait, did he, what did he do?
No, no, no, I'm saying if he was.
Oh, yeah, if he was an athlete or some shit, right?
Manages that, says some crazy shit about Trump, ends up being the VP.
Like, clearly, this guy knows how to make people feel comfortable.
That's why I'm asking him when he's with you.
Is there like a, in the pre-conversation, is he doing things to disarm you?
No, no, it's, it's all very, I think it's very, um there's, there's largely an understanding of the messaging and the messaging on that campaign was from his perspective, pretty, pretty tight.
Trump was all over the place because Trump can be all over the place.
JD Vance was out there going, the elites have destroyed the country.
Yeah.
Class war.
Class war.
Yeah.
They've betrayed American working people with endless immigration, bad trade deals.
The liberals are out of touch socially, culturally with the public.
He hit a lot of those notes.
I think they were accurate at the time.
Class War Resentment00:03:54
What the solutions will be is then that's the question.
But he understands what was motivating people just like Trump did.
I think, you know, and part of me speaking to Steve Bannon, it was very interesting when the Democratic Party became largely a party of college-educated coastal people.
There was a pretentiousness.
It was a pretentiousness.
He would talk down to people.
And it didn't mean that there aren't elites all over the place, right?
Musk is an elite.
All these guys are elites.
But there was a certain...
But they're embarrassed about it.
When you're like a little bit elitist in like the South, there's that thing, don't put on airs.
You know, that's it.
Well, there's that, but there's also a clownishness that almost saves Musk from being, he looks retarded at the time.
So it's almost like he's can't, it's not that he's talking down to you.
Yeah.
He's crazy.
And I think that like, not that, and I've, I haven't said a good word about him recently, but like, there is something about that coastal elitism that when you talk down to people and you, people just recoil at that.
Yeah, we, yeah, they hate it.
And you can also like see the pendulum swing to the middle.
Like American culture, like country music is the most popular form.
Right.
Like it just, like when we were growing up, it was the heyday of the coasts, right?
And we, what do we call them, flyover states?
Like we really felt it.
Yeah, sure.
I don't know if you felt it growing up, but like we even felt it in the city.
Right.
Like if you're from Long Island, that's a little different.
We were a little bit more, but that's what I'm saying.
Like half and half.
It wasn't even like Tennessee is a flyover.
You're like, oh, you're from the outer boroughs.
Right.
You're from something.
So there was this constant at least, which I imagine like drove people fucking crazy.
But I guess maybe there's like an aspirational quality too.
You're like, I'm going to get there one day or I'm going to get that crazy house.
I think it's, you know, it's a lack of invectives.
A little bit of a lack of investment in those regions and kind of letting those people, you know, shipping their jobs overseas and then letting them kind of fester and not caring about them.
And then going, why are they all pissed?
But I also think like the like letting, it's not like, not say letting, right?
But, you know, when they dropped interest rates to like zero or whatever, and then you have all these tech guys take out loans at zero percent and then dump it into the market after the crisis and then make insane amounts of money.
And I think the rest of America who are like financially illiterate like me, you have this feeling, you're going like, hold on, why are they getting so rich?
Right.
I'm not getting anything.
And you have this runaway train where American excellence and opulence is leaving you behind.
So I understand the resentment of that.
Yes.
And you have to find a way to include those people in it.
Yes.
You have to have a country that works for as many people as possible.
And you have to have a culture that does.
That's the other thing.
You can't dictate to people deeply personal things.
And I think that's become apparent.
What do you mean by that?
Meaning, you can't tell people that their children are the property of the state or the education system.
And, you know, for example, if a seven-year-old feels weird about their gender, you know, having a public school teacher tell them how things work is never going to make people happy.
People really want to parent their children.
Yeah.
And I think that the overreach has been creating this, you know, cultural space where like you feel like you're losing control of your family values, whatever they happen to be.
Just the autonomy of your family.
The autonomy of your family to public institutions that you may or may not agree with.
And then you're going to naturally resent those public institutions.
Family Autonomy vs Institutions00:02:34
And you naturally resent them.
So a lot of it's overreach.
It's like it's never enough.
No one gets power and goes, I'm good.
Yeah.
It's always like more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it happens on the right.
It happens on the left.
It's just people want more of the thing that they have.
It's just human nature to try to go, oh, it's this way for me.
Well, it's going to be this way for you.
Yeah.
And I think I've never been interested in that.
Our job is a weird job because we're outside a little bit.
We just get to make fun of who's in power.
That's right.
It's very fun.
We get to, well, we also just kind of like, we don't depend on the structures other people depend on.
It's in a different way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To me, we're not in a corporate job.
I don't know what a human resources meeting is.
I don't know what a educate college board is.
We're just kind of accountable to the people that listen and come to see the shows.
But people that are in those environments felt this stuff more than I did.
Like a lot of the stuff that was coming in over the last four years, they kept having meeting after meeting after meeting.
And then they'd go to a meeting and you would show up to your job and they'd put you in a meeting and go, all right, so tell the whole team the last time you were racist.
And you'd be sitting there and your black colleagues would be looking at you like, all right, and smiling because a lot of people were like, this isn't for us.
Like, this is hilarious.
So it's just weird thing.
Like, I remember DeStefana was on a show.
I forget.
It was like backyard bar wars or something.
And then like in the beginning of the backyard bar war show where they're reviewing tiki bars built in people's backyards, one of the producers said, let's have a moment of silence for Asian hate.
Yeah.
And you had to kind of stand there and then they would go, okay, good.
All right.
Anyway, this tiki bar is shit.
And I'll tell you what.
Bro, every time I'm up in Canada doing like a show on like native land or whatever, you have to do a land acknowledgement.
Right.
Have you done this when you have a course?
And they get up there and they go, hey, this used, you actually sometimes have to say, you're like, this used to be native land or whatever.
And I always felt like, this feels like we're rubbing it in a little.
Yeah, it's a weird thing when you land in Australia, they're like, we lot to give, you know, we ought to acknowledge the past, present, and future guardians of the land, the elders, the tribe of it.
And you're like, isn't acknowledging it the least you can do?
It's the least.
It's just for you.
They're not happy with the acknowledgement.
It's the least you can do.
But we're also living in a time now where it's almost like, if that's what you want to do, all right.
Yeah.
I don't, don't leave me alone.
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Yeah.
Leave my money alone.
Yeah.
That's fine.
Yeah.
That's okay.
Is that your only idea?
Okay.
We'll do that.
We're going to do that because the next idea is going to be, by the way, where's all your money?
Yeah.
And it's not going to go to help anyone.
It never does.
It goes to fund some bullshit thing that pays a bunch of six-figure salaries to people to study problems and never solve them.
But yeah, it's like there is just a certain amount of like, it's like you would say grace.
And I'm not denigrating grace or religion or whatever, but that's kind of what it feels like.
It's like you say grace, then you eat.
It's like, oh, we landed in Melbourne.
Okay, great.
We're going to just say this.
Hopefully it's good.
Hopefully it's good.
It's weird.
Do you think that?
Yeah, I'm trying to think.
Yeah, like the performative measures.
I wonder if that goes away.
I wonder if that with this administration.
I think it will go away.
I think a lot of that will probably fade only because it's like it culture moves quickly.
And I think that people are just going to get bored and of pretending.
Yes.
And I think there's an exhaustion.
There's an exhaustion.
It's exhausting.
And I think that hopefully where we find ourselves is a nuanced place where people realize the world is complex, people are complex.
And we go back.
Like my dream is to go back to the 90s.
My dream is to go back to like, you're an individual.
You sit on like a clunky big couch.
You drink a cappuccino out of a big fishbowl.
You listen to music.
You tell your friend about it.
They don't like it as much as you do.
That pisses you off a little, but you don't let them know.
You think we're too invested in politics now?
Not only are we too invested in politics, we're too invested in the collective.
In like, my business is your business and you got to do what I say.
And to me, that's uninteresting.
What's interesting is like figuring out how much you can, you know, develop yourself as a human being.
And I think that gets really lost when you're constantly in these like collectives with people.
That's why I like it at LA.
LA still, comedically, you go in, you do your spot and you kind of just go, thanks, everybody.
There's no hang.
And you miss that sometimes in New York.
I go, there's more of a hang in New York.
But sometimes it's really good to not have 20 people in your ear.
Sometimes it's good to be like, let me just use my own fucking brain and figure out what I think independent without the social pressure of being.
And social media has made that harder.
No, that's a good point.
Social media, it's created like in these like digital hangs that are informing your opinions about the world.
And there are people who are terrified if their opinion goes against their like hang group or whatever.
Rejecting Social Pressure00:02:13
Right.
Yeah, that can, and that's kind of how you saw comedy come up where each scene had a style.
Right.
And it was kind of like everybody fit within the style.
Like, I remember when everybody was doing a tell in New York.
Do you remember when everybody sounded like a tell?
Yes.
And there are people listening right now that probably know comedians who came up under a tell that might not even be familiar with a tell.
That's right.
But they're whatever gremlins off his back or whatever that is.
Sure.
Yeah.
That's that's interesting.
Like there's a Colin Quinn school.
Yep.
There's Etel School School, Petrie School.
Like there's all those different things.
And like it's impossible to not be influenced by people.
I just think right now it's like there is something nice about just going like being a product of not a political reality, but of a culture and an environment going like, oh, I'm from Louisiana.
We eat this.
This is what we believe.
We like getting drunk.
This is what we value.
Not like, oh, I'm a fucking like communist, socialist, fascist, Marxist, Democrat, Republican, libertarian.
Okay, yeah, but tell me more about your life.
Where'd you come from?
I wonder if like, I wonder if that's more what I'm interested in.
But yeah, but that's also probably more your life.
Like you're a gay guy who is could, I don't even want to say you're conservative.
What do you conserve?
I would say Nazi.
Like a gay guy who's a Nazi is really what I, that's kind of what I'm feeling.
Gay guy, Nazi, Jew lover.
I like a little Jew money.
Gotta watch him.
Gotta watch.
Where are they going?
Hey!
Hey.
You don't know where Dove is right now.
I love the Jews, but I feel it's like a dog at a park.
It's like, are they getting into something?
So that's the thing.
Dove is rented out the other half of the studio right now to someone else.
It's just three tailors to somewhere.
But yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Like your life is probably more individualistic.
I have a weird fucking life.
Yeah, but I think you embrace that, obviously.
I think it's you're not trying to conform.
No.
And I conform to certain degrees.
Like what?
I don't think you conform in the way you dress.
I don't think you conform to your ideas.
Gay Nazi Paradox00:15:09
I'm pretty wild in that shit, but I think we're all products of, like, I want to do well.
Is that conforming?
No, maybe not.
Like, the people who reject, I mean, we talked about this a little before, but like the people who reject like wanting to do well.
Or trying.
Or trying.
It's just like you're afraid of failing.
And that's okay.
Like, we're all afraid of failing.
That's right.
Fail, pussy.
Like, don't, it's okay to try.
It's okay to make a sick studio.
It's okay to also have a sick one in New York.
It's like, right.
Trying is cool.
And we admire that.
That's right.
But like doing the trying is gay thing.
Yeah.
I can't wait till culture moves past that.
Like that I think is the most un-American thing in the fucking world.
But I've always thought interesting people to me are interesting.
And that's what makes life worth it, not groups of people or even the political realities of like this way or that way.
To me, it's like, I like to meet a person who's fucking weird.
And like one idea doesn't correspond to the other.
And you go, how'd you get there from there?
But are you getting that in LA?
I feel like there's, I feel like the is like the epitome of group fake out here.
Yeah.
It's a star-driven town.
Everybody gravitates to the heat.
I feel like New York is a little bit more where the misfits can kind of thrive.
New York is more unique, but I'll give LA this.
As it craters to Earth, like asteroid, it will develop more of that.
Yeah.
It will develop more of that.
For a long time, it had the cockiness.
Yeah.
And now it doesn't.
It's kind of interesting.
Now, it's depressing and horrible, but there is something interesting about seeing a town like this get really humbled.
Yeah.
And the people here are not, there's bad vibes everywhere.
You go to a coffee shop, all these people, they just feel bad.
They know they're writing a script no one will ever read.
They know they're in a relationship with someone who doesn't love them.
They know that being fake doesn't even help anymore.
They know that it doesn't even matter the bullshit political stuff you post on social media because nobody even cares.
They know that none of it matters anymore.
They're simply going through the motions.
They go to Pilates.
They walk out.
The homeless are barely into it now.
You know, the homeless with the knife that's like barely chasing.
Everybody is, I think, going through the motions here.
And it's interesting.
And nobody's not good, though.
Like LA.
LA people, I mean, America in general runs on the idea that everybody's going to be a millionaire.
And LA runs on the idea that everybody's going to be famous.
And the second they stop thinking they'll be famous is when shit gets a little rough.
That's when the cults start.
And that's why I'm still here.
Oh, you're waiting for the cults.
I will put 50 people in a backyard.
Don't think I will not put 50 people in a backyard.
The cults are, we are right on the edge of a thriving cult environment here.
The conditions are ripe.
The conditions are right.
If you are a 20-year-old actor, let me help you.
If you're a male, we're not going to do the females in the cult.
It distracts it.
So it's a male cult of people in their early 20s who have dedicated their life to fitness and acting.
And if it's not working out, there's other places we can go vibrationally with energy.
Vibrationally with energy, you know?
But no, there's going to be, I'm telling you, my prediction, when you say, what's going to happen to LA?
Vassal State of China with the real estate because they're going to come in and buy all the real estate and then cults as far as the eye can see.
I mean, you want cults like you, I mean, cults.
Like these fuckers will be in the backyard of a coffee shop in a, in a thought circle.
There'll be rampant meditation.
Some will go into Islam.
Bitches will have burqas walking around Weeho.
They are going to find this is going to be, it's like Scientology had the whole monopoly on cults here for a long time.
But now it's going, it's like in Chicago, they bulldozed this big project to Brini Green.
And what happened was you had lots of smaller gangs.
They put all the people that had ran that for a long time in jail.
So then all the younger guys were like, well, all just started a gang on every street.
And then it got crazy.
That's going to be cults in LA.
I believe the future is cults.
Like this.
Because people, the cult was fame.
The cult was sex.
The cult was money.
After fame and money are gone, you'll just have sex.
So then you need a charismatic cult leader to put everybody in the backyard.
Go to the desert.
Get in the van.
Get on the bus.
And that's why I'm, that's why I find it interesting, actually.
We in Rema 1000 have made it easier to be a chylling.
All our chylling grows slower, and gets more time and place to break my fjäran.
And then it becomes easier for you to choose chylling.
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Rema prices with better animal welfare included.
So you don't stop thinking about it.
Yes, it's easy, it's often the best.
Rema 1000, alltid lave priser.
What's Joshua Tree?
A dump.
It's where people go to take a bunch of shrooms and go, why isn't it working?
I'll tell you why it's working.
You suck.
You're bad.
You're bad.
They got to commune with these entities and these entities because they're bored.
That's a little my thing with like the ayahuasca and shit.
It seems like there's like quick fix, like you're depressed.
I know.
First of all, ayahuasca was not invented so you could get a Range Rover.
That's not why the Incans were doing these ceremonies.
It was not so you could strategize how to get a walk-on roll on hack season four.
It was so that you could commune with elders that had left the physical reality that you were in.
It was the whole point.
That's so funny.
So all these people take it.
If you're a shaman, you're not going to get a job.
No, if your shaman is named Jessica, she's not a shaman.
She's a white chick from Phoenix.
You're a junkie.
You're a junkie.
You're doing ketamine therapy.
You're a junkie.
And there's nothing wrong with it.
Just admit it.
We get it.
Yeah.
So people go to Joshua Tree.
It's pretty and whatever, but they're going there to have some experience.
But I see people from LA like treating it as their like getaway.
They're two-hour geta.
I want to see it.
This is what they want.
Look at that.
Is that a nice getaway?
It's called Iraq.
Bagram Air Force Base.
They go out there and they take a bunch of psychedelics and then they communicate with some entity and the entity goes, it's the entity so tired at this point.
And they're because the entity is in the realm and the entity's like, hello.
And then you're like, ETA is kind of, they're kind of hit pocketing me.
And the entity goes, you're not bringing anything to the table.
There's nothing for you.
And no, listen, it's a town about making the unbelievable believable.
So you got to go into the desert and take a bunch of drugs.
That's okay.
Yeah.
That's okay.
Nothing wrong with it.
No.
Nothing wrong with it.
That's where I got banned from Airbnb.
I can never rent an Airbnb in my life.
I cannot put a property I own on Airbnb because of the two lesbians in Joshua Tree.
Still to this day.
To this day.
And have you had any communication?
I had Rogan ask the CEO.
He's like, no, we're not putting it back on.
Wow.
I'm going to change that for you.
I would love that.
But I also say a lot of negative things about Airbnb and we'll continue to.
All right.
Well, I might not change that for you.
What is this?
What is that?
Is this Joshua Tree?
Is it people tripping out?
Yeah, some guys on shrooms in a Joshua Tree Airbnb.
Welcome.
Please, take a seat.
Join us in the world's very first shroom room.
So we're at Petite Noir, one of our properties, and we decided to make this room into your own sanctuary in Joshua Tree.
We made this room so people can just, you know, play.
Is this a joke?
Is it a sketch?
Enjoy the serenity and peacefulness of Joshua Tree.
And it might be a polarizing thing for many people, but we know what I'm talking about.
Right.
With the sketches and the actual promotional material.
No, I don't know what it is.
I love that they put up shroom wallpaper.
They're like, we've created a sanctuary.
People out here are different.
And that's the problem.
What else have you been plugged into?
Recently, I'm really interested in the what I'm really interested in now, actually, is like the people that are obsessed with living forever.
Oh, yeah.
And like super foods and like the way they're all trying to hack immortality.
Obviously, there's that Brian Johnson or whatever his name is, who's like taking his son's blood.
But there's also a lot of other like cottage industries popping up right now to just increase more to like people that are just like, I want to do it forever.
Forever.
So that's kind of interesting to me.
That's the ultimate hubris to me is that you'll beat death.
That's fun to me.
I like that.
I like when human beings get silly and it's a little silly to me to go, I'm going to beat death.
That's a fun one.
I like that.
I know a guy who's a producer and now he's like up in like Santa Barbara area and he's like, you know, doing superfood stuff to try to like hack biohack immortality and like, you know, live to 130.
So it's interesting.
Yeah.
That stuff is fun to me.
Yeah, I sat down with the Brian guy.
What did you think about him?
I thought he was interesting.
Like he believes it.
Like that's the thing with a lot of these guys, like whether it's, you know, aliens or like there's, there's certain people who they don't believe it, but they're making money on it.
Yeah.
And then there's certain people who believe it, even though we might believe they're crazy.
That's right.
And I like the people who believe it a little bit more because now they're more con artists.
It's kind of nice.
So I don't think he's a con artist, but he is like, I think he was like a pretty devout Mormon then went through some crazy shit.
I think he's kind of replacing that the void that leaving the religion has created has maybe been filled with I'm going to live forever and help everybody else live forever.
That's right.
And interesting.
I also think there's like there's virtue in it.
Sure.
Like I'm going to help everybody else be healthy.
And I'm going to give yourself a purpose and a discipline.
And that's what I think a lot of people in life lack.
Is purpose and discipline.
Well, yeah, you got to, you got to, we, we tell people you got to get rich, you got to do this, you got to do that, whatever.
But we, we, we should be telling people that they should develop genuine interests.
Yeah.
And those interests may or may not correspond to financial gain.
Yeah.
And they're, those are two different things.
But you should be a person who has interests and cares about things and has hobbies and has a full life.
And like, you know, you don't have to be rich.
You don't have to be, you know, it's nice to have more money than less.
Yeah.
But like, you know, I think what happens is it almost feels weird to me.
This guy goes, I want to live forever, but what about the quality of life?
Yeah.
What exact for what?
Yeah.
That's who, that's a question.
That's what we asked him.
It was just like, is this worth it?
Like, you might live forever, but the life seems horrible.
It seems odd to just want to live forever without a purpose.
Yeah.
I understand people that go, I want to live forever because I'm finally going to do this thing.
And when I, there should be something that you can accomplish where then you go, and now I'm ready to die.
If there isn't, life has absolutely no meaning.
If there's not one mountain to climb, you know what I mean?
There's got to be something you can say where you go, I did it.
I did it.
I'm cool leaving.
Yeah.
I'm good.
At the end of the day, there's got to be something there.
Yeah.
What about the people that don't have an interest?
I think that's the tricky thing about, I guess, maybe, I don't know if it's like the dreamer culture in America is like, not everybody got a fucking dream.
No, of course.
And then they feel like losers when they don't have the dream.
Those people, I think, can be the happiest people in the world if they not only accept that, but they, then they have to develop, because not everyone has a dream or a purpose.
That's cool, but everybody has things they like.
Exactly.
So things they like.
Yeah.
But here, if the thing you like doesn't make you money, then you're just like a loser with a hobby.
When in reality, you could be the happiest person on the planet.
You'd be the happiest person on the planet.
There are people I know who just, for whatever reason, have a few things they like.
Yeah.
And their lives are arranged around how often they can do those things.
And some of those things are narcotics.
Some of those things are cheating on.
And you can't tell me they're not the happiest people.
Some of those things are marital infidelity.
Some of them are narcotics.
Some of them are driving under the influence.
Whatever you're doing.
No, but I do think you got to arrange your life.
Like I have friends that just like to travel.
Travel to me, and this is a take that people get mad at me for, is the most overrated thing.
No, why?
I'll tell you why.
I always have a reason.
You never have to ask why.
No.
I think it's the most overrated thing.
The least intelligent people I know are the most well-traveled all the time.
It's a sub-travel.
It's the sub-travel.
I absolutely love it.
Okay.
It's fine.
Maybe you're the exception.
Okay, go, But I think you probably are the exception.
Most people who travel feel that it is a substitute for having a genuine personality, a genuine perspective, genuine takes.
They never spend long enough in a place to learn anything valuable.
It is the aesthetic of going, taking a few photos, throwing them up on social media.
For example, my grandmother lived in the same town for 50 years, went to one or two different countries.
There were 200 people at her funeral.
I guarantee she had a fuller life and knew more about the world from watching that town change over 50 years than somebody who takes photos.
We know comics and they'll be like, when I was in Kuala Lumpur, and I'm like, you're homeless.
I know that you traveled there, but now.
So yeah, you're talking about like Instagram travel for sure.
A little bit of that.
Yeah.
Listen, you're doing that.
You're performing for people.
You're doing something in the country.
I like traveling in general, but I also have like a real curiosity about these places that I'm sure.
For sure.
So there's certain places I'm going to go where I'm like, this looks like an awesome fucking hotel.
Like the Ammans are the best hotel I've ever been to in my entire life.
Unbelievable.
Great.
And but outside of that, like just going to these different places has been fantastic.
But I'm like a nerd about travel.
Like I get like a tour guide to take me around the city and teach me everything about that city.
I'm in Istanbul with a tour guide, me and my wife, and we're just walking around and then I'm asking questions or writing notes.
Sure.
Okay, if that's what you're doing, well, that's terribly annoying.
It seems horrible.
And I'm sure that like it drives my wife crazy at times.
But for me, like if I'm diving, like when I went to Japan, right?
Everybody goes to Japan.
They're like, oh my God, it's the best place in the world.
Japan is torture to me.
It is absolute fucking torture.
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It is.
People are going to hate this.
Yeah, because they don't understand life.
Like, that's why.
I've never been.
You could be right.
You'll have the best pizza you've ever had in your entire life.
You'll have the best steak you've ever had in your entire life.
They're done with their culture.
Now they're just refining other culture shit.
And they have this like beautiful cultural specificity where they have to make everything perfect.
There's a shame in them.
Like, you know how everybody in America turns 30 and they want to be a DJ?
There's no shame in us.
Right.
We have no shame to do something mediocre.
I know.
Matter of fact, it's to the not try hard thing we were talking about.
They are separate.
They kill themselves.
If they are not, they deny.
I would rather be dead than the shame.
Now, what they have is there is no love in the culture at all.
Interesting.
So you go there for a few days, you take your pictures and you're like, oh, this is awesome.
You see the little harijuki girls and stuff like that.
You don't really notice much.
And then you leave and you're like, Japan is the coolest place ever.
You don't see a single women stop aging at 13 years old.
They're not allowed to be elegant and beautiful.
They can be cute.
You go to every any fucking clothing store.
Every skirt is at their fucking knee or they're dressed like a cartoon character.
Like it is.
I've been to a bunch of places.
It's by far the most sexy place I've ever seen in my entire life and like oppressively sex.
Like I don't even know if a single woman in Japan has had an orgasm with a Japanese dude.
Okay.
Because it's just not part of like, oh, we need to do that.
Right.
Like I was speaking to these women.
They were like, we went out to eat with a couple people.
And they're like, it's the most absurd thing you've ever said.
Like dating here is unbelievably painful.
They got to like develop cultural mechanisms for them to meet people now.
Right.
Like knocking on a wall.
A lot of people just go to the sex cafe and jerk off with the cat.
They've just, they've like.
But that's what they're doing.
I think they, and I think that's good, actually.
But they've like, yeah, they've, what is it called?
They've like monetized every little aspect of culture that you can eat.
Oh, you need a nap?
Here's a nap.
Like there's no just like a free willingness that you might have in like in Italy or even like the Caribbean, this like natural love.
You have a kid around and everybody starts coming around and saying hi and pinching a kid's cheeks in this fucking love.
So I'm in it.
I got scolded.
Me and my wife are in like an underground illegal bar and I kiss my wife and the bartender scolds it.
We're in an illegal bar.
And she says, you're not allowed to kiss your wife?
The dude.
Oh.
The bartender.
Wow.
So it's just this, we have this idea of it and they have a beautiful thing.
You're going to have the best of the best.
Is there honor?
In what?
I don't know.
It feels like an honor bound culture.
There's honor.
Yeah, I feel like people say that, but like honor for what?
It's like, I don't know.
You're saying there's no love is zero love.
What'd you say?
Zero love.
But is maybe there is what we're recognizing as love, like the ooey gooey American kissy-huggy love.
They have honor instead of love, I think.
I think another word is sacrifice, and I think that the culture is built around sacrificing like what you want, like maybe we're the complete opposite, where we like don't want to sacrifice at all.
Right, what makes me feel good?
Give it to me, injected into me right right um, and just seeing yeah, it's just so.
Yeah, just seeing it, it was like really hard to be in.
Can you play this?
Play this woman?
I want to hear what she?
This is kind of interesting.
I i'm, i've never been, so I think yeah, You have dated American person, right?
Yes, yes.
I've been in a relationship with American people.
Dating culture in Japan, in the States.
Any differences?
Yes, I would say my Japanese ex-boyfriend, I had to assume a lot of things because they are not really communicative.
So we assume something, you know, testing the water.
But like in America, you have to say whatever you have to say.
I learn myself a lot through the relationship because sometimes I have to bring up something that I don't feel comfortable with.
My ex-boyfriend says something that makes me feel uncomfortable, but because of that, I get to learn about myself a lot.
So you're open to date Japanese person or date American person?
Or do you have any preferences right now?
After dating both?
I don't think I have preferences, but I would say at least showing interest in Japanese culture or Japanese language would be really big for me.
Or like Japanese people who speak both languages because I'm bilingual, I don't really see myself feeling super comfortable only speaking Japanese anymore.
I like to mix the language, you know?
It doesn't really matter they're Japanese or American, but if they're bilingual or biculture, I feel more comfortable being around them.
They're coming on board, bro.
Yeah, they want the, they want the Americans.
It is interesting.
Where would you say your favorite place that you've gone is?
You've now just destroyed Japan as a loveless.
Also, we went to like Kyoto.
That's another thing, which is like a Disney world.
Like people love it.
It's like, oh, it's ancient Japanese.
You have these little geisha girls walking around.
It feels so performative, nonsense, bullshit.
It's like people love it, though.
They love it because they don't.
Right.
I'm not disagreeing.
I just have never seen it.
They love it like they love Austin.
Like, you don't really love it.
Austin's the greatest city in the world.
Okay.
I agree completely.
It's amazing.
It's great.
Well, I like, here's what I like to do.
You come to a place that doesn't have a restaurant and then you move there.
You're like, oh, my God.
I love that the trees are dead in all of the seasons.
Yeah, that's the beautiful thing.
That's the night because how do you want to see life?
Sometimes trees have leaves and then they go away, but in Austin, they're just always dead.
Always dead.
I like it.
And it's too windy to eat outside.
Oh, a tomato fell out of my salad because of the wind.
It hit me on the chest.
Well, that's where we should eat out.
You're down one tomato, but you're also down listeria, which you would have gotten from it.
You know, that's a good point.
You're assuming I didn't eat it.
The produce is not washed.
You're assuming.
It's from Mexico.
It's unwashed.
It's good, though.
It is good.
Best place?
Best place.
I mean, it depends what you want, but like indulgence, France, 100%.
Yeah, South of France.
I love the South France.
South France is amazing.
And it's like whatever, pretend you're saying, I don't give a fuck.
You love Italy?
I love Italy.
But I also, like, for different reasons.
Like, the French are like, hey, listen, we are done with anything that is inconvenient to us.
It got to smell the best.
It's got to taste the best.
It's got to feel the best.
The bed has to be the most comfortable.
I'm not going to be inconvenienced in any way.
I have to work how many days?
We're not going to do that.
Like, the whole culture is built around make me feel good in the moment.
So if you want to go someplace for three days and feel fucking good, it's South of France.
You can go there.
It's very nice.
Italy, amazing, obviously.
Just like raw passion about everything.
Turkey, you love the history.
Yeah, Turk, that's like, that's some cool shit.
If you want to get into the history, I think that's some cool shit.
Absolutely.
Italy, you love all of the.
You know what's Italy?
What was surprising?
Dessert?
S.
Yeah, because they use oil and not cream.
You're such a, you're a culture.
For a guy who doesn't travel, you're a real culture.
That's why the guys at the stand, whom I love, stop with this.
Whatever you're doing there.
I've given you 50 suggestions about what desserts to do.
And they still bring out like Nona's olive oil.
Can you break this down to the people out here who might not understand?
Just because the pasta and the sauce and these things are delicious doesn't mean you have understood dessert.
Remove the ego of the olive oil.
We get it.
It's good for your fucking heart or some shit.
Get it out of there.
It's dessert.
We're not caring about our heart.
When I choose dessert, their whole thing, I think, is it's a little termisu, gelato, but it's not, you know.
But look, you've named the two things that got cream.
That's two things that are cream.
Everything else is not good.
If it doesn't have milk in it, we don't want to have it.
And by the way, here's the other thing.
I have, you know, are you a guy that says Italian food is in Italy?
How much better is it than in America?
I don't like this idea that it's like that much better.
That's what I agree with you.
This is the other thing where it's like, we often say things that like people will agree with us.
It's like the idea that New York doesn't have comparable food.
It's psychotic.
It's like what I will say is the regular mom and pop restaurant on the side of the road in Italy is better than the regular.
But if you're going to elite Italian, honestly, it's probably better in New York.
It might be a crazy take, but it might be better in New York.
New York's your favorite city.
Yeah.
It is the best.
It's the best in the world.
But it is the best and it's not even like an argument.
I'm not arguing with you.
But who would, what would be the argument against it?
That's what I'm trying to understand.
Knowing that you can go out east if you want to.
There's a certain feeling in July when you dip into Lake Austin in the green, in the greenness, and the brain-eating amoeba swims up your nose and attaches to your brain.
You have 48 hours to live.
And you spend that 48 hours on 6th Street watching horse fights.
Cops on horses fight with people and paralyze frat kids who are fighting.
It's just something special about 190 degrees.
And then just having a nice refreshing slab of brisket.
I mean, that's the perfect food when it's 190 degrees.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, no, I listen, respect.
I like Dallas and I like Houston and Austin, you know, it's, we, we have our, we have our things.
I like comedy.
I love Joe.
If we didn't love comedy, we wouldn't love it.
We love comedy.
We love it.
It's a good place for comedy.
We love to do comedy and we love our friends, our brethren.
This looks insane here.
It just looks like a me, you know, the fights on the street, it's a melee.
It's a melee.
It's fun when you're 19.
Yeah, it's like when you, it's like somebody took New Orleans and was like, hey, how about no culture?
We'll just do this.
I've said the exact same thing.
It's a cleaner New Orleans.
Yeah.
And what's nice about New Orleans is it's dirty.
It's dirty.
It's interesting and it's cool.
And it's cool.
It's history.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like New Orleans.
Where's a guy like you think about, do you ever think of, you know, a lot of New Yorkers have like a spot in a garden district and live in New Orleans, but that's too much.
Like occasionally going down.
Maybe.
I mean, I just like it.
Maybe to visit.
Too many actors I know have done it.
It just feels too.
It's like it's hack now, you're saying?
It just feels a little, it's just, I don't know, it's a certain type of person who's doing it.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, I just like it.
I feel like I don't like, I feel like it is large.
Like when I lived in Texas, I was like, they don't want us here and I don't want to be here.
And it's not, because they have a culture that I respect and actually like.
I like Texans.
I love Texans and I love their culture.
And I don't, I feel good visiting and appreciating it.
I don't want to pretend to be it.
Yeah.
What I talk about is like when we have these conversations where people start pretending it's like on the level of global cities is like Paris or Mexico City.
It's psychotic.
People, yeah.
Maybe in 400 years, maybe we'll be there.
I just, you know, I like cultures to be their thing and I like to appreciate it.
I like to go to Paris and go, man, I appreciate this culture, but I'm not going to go there and put on a beret.
Yeah, we don't need to do that's the thing.
We don't need to do that.
I think everyone's got, and if you feel genuine like that is your culture down there, then God bless you and I respect you and love you.
Here's a really fucking pretentious one.
Yeah.
But some, I mean, sometimes they get it right, these rich motherfuckers.
Yeah.
A lot of times.
A lot of times.
Like St. Bart's, have you done the St. Bart's?
I never have.
I've seen you do it.
I've never done it.
And listen, I'm like, I'm sure they've gotten it right.
And again, I'll tell you, like when I experience something, I'm not like on some gatekeeper shit.
Like, I love being the guy who had nothing.
Not nothing.
Obviously, I was good stuff, but like compared to these billionaire motherfuckers.
I like going to their shit and then just telling everybody about it and then ruining it.
Yeah.
So I like you go like, I'd like to be a guy that has nothing.
You're like a famous multi-millionaire.
I'd like to be a guy that has nothing.
Compared to them.
Finds myself.
No, I mean, like, I could never, like, my family would never be able to go to St. Bart's or something.
No, of course.
But then.
Look, it's stunning.
Pretty.
It's interesting.
So this island, right?
It's actually kind of fucked up.
But like all the islands in the Caribbean had like people there.
Yeah.
And here's the one that like miraculously didn't.
Right.
I wonder where they went.
Right.
Anyway, like Norway owns it or something like that.
Then France gets it.
And France just goes, yo, we're going to make South of France on this island.
Right.
But there's no indigenous population.
So we don't got to feel bad about like oppressing a group of people who already live here and like eliminating their culture.
Right.
So they just made South of France on this island so that when it's cold and they can't be in South of France.
They go there.
They go there.
I got to try it.
I've never been in South America.
Oh, you could.
You would love it.
And also like the people there, obviously, all like, I'm sure all your fans know this now, but like the elites love you.
You like roast them more than anybody on the planet, but they fucking love you for some reason.
Maybe it's like a self-loathing or something.
Thank God.
Well, I have no power to do anything to them.
But they love you.
They fucking.
I'm not Lena Khan who's going to throw antitrust break up their companies.
Every time.
I can't let this idiot with sunglasses say whatever he wants.
Every time I go to Polo Bar in New York City, the whole staff is like, yo, when is Timmy coming in?
That's very important.
Well, that's sweet of the staff.
And I keep telling them that you're going to come and then what happens?
No, I never go.
I should go.
Yeah.
I have my weird spots.
I'm a creature of habit and I go to like a few places.
I feel like you really like that.
You like it.
You like a wasp.
It's important.
It's important we have people who don't cry and are stoic and that we need a little bit of that.
Do the Jews in the Northeast want to be wasps?
Some of them, but not really.
I think that the WASP culture is the American culture and people don't like to hear that, but it is very much the American culture of like privacy, minding your business.
It's not the Irish Catholic culture.
The culture that I come from is like wailing and screaming and crying and singing and fighting and all this.
The WASP culture is like stoic, Calvinist, Protestant, like shut up.
Own your house.
Keep your shit clean.
Don't be ostentatious.
Like, don't drive a dumb car like me.
Don't wear these dumb sunglasses.
Don't be a monster.
It is very much the American culture.
And then it's fun to have these little enclaves that are not that, Beverly Hills and this and that.
But the WASP culture is the American culture.
And like Tori Birch lives out in Southampton.
She's a Jew that has become a WASP.
But I feel like Ralph Loren is another version.
He's another one.
He's another one.
I feel like almost like we grew up in New York City and there's this perception that like those cultures have like molded.
Some of them, but we also have the loudest and most Jewish people ever in New York.
Got it.
Where you would say that the WASP would look at that and be like, eh, you're causing a scene.
Why are you making a big deal about this?
Yeah, it's just the WASP things.
There's a few places that they dwell.
And it's like Nantucket and Cape Cod or whatever.
Yeah.
And even there's parts of the Hamptons, like the Southampton Bathing Corp is very WASP-y, but the rest of Southampton isn't.
And the Hamptons has kind of been colonized and taken over.
And there's a little bit in the Berkshires, the WASP culture, but like the WAP cult, the WASP culture.
And there's a little bit, you know, a little bit in Northern California, Santa Barbara, whatever.
And there's a little bit around Georgia, Sea Island, places like that, Palm Beach.
But it's dying.
It is dying, but I feel like the Jews have embraced it and marketed it better than the Wasps ever could.
Yeah, they figured out how to sell it.
And you sell like, it's amazing.
The WASPs that I talked to Tucker about this became drunks.
And they didn't, and they had these fortunes that they were living off of.
And they all went to these elite boarding schools and their parents had fortunes, not billion-dollar fortunes.
Some of them were, but a lot of them were like a lot of money, just enough money to not try hard and not really work.
And a lot of these people just retired to Maine or wherever and just kind of like moved into their summer houses and didn't keep, didn't keep pace with Jewish people and Arabs and the Chinese who now are the big money players.
Sorry, Irish.
Not you.
Yeah.
So there's just not enough ambition in it, you're saying?
Yeah, it's like the old Spanish Empire living off the largesse of having gold and stuff.
It's like just and not having to innovate and just kind of becoming decrepit.
I think part of that is the story of the, of the American WASPs.
A lot of them, you know, the government was a lot of WASP, it was a lot of WASPs at the CIA and Skull and Bones.
And a lot of them went into politics and they went into the machinery of government.
And there are some great fortunes there, but not nearly as many.
And none of them are new.
A lot of the new fortunes are the new IPOs.
And a lot of that, that's not WASPs.
They're in very traditional modes of making money, which is like banking and real estate insurance.
It's kind of boring.
They're not as likely to be in tech or any of the, you know, kind of the new money players.
It's weird.
Like, it's almost like the generational wealth in America.
Like in other countries, they would just like own sugar.
Right.
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Like, what happened to that in America?
Like, I thought all the rich people just owned the commodities.
Most resources in America can be produced cheaply other places.
So those families lost their competitive advantage.
Well, they also don't want to pay Americans to do it.
So they're like, why are we going to pay Americans to work at these places when we can ship all of this stuff?
And that's a lot of what JD Vance and these guys are talking about.
Now, how they're, you know, these tariffs, it's a long play to bring back manufacturing.
There's going to be a lot of blood in the water.
It's a long play.
But the reality is, you know, people that don't have jobs and, you know, because they worked in those sectors of the economy, manufacturing being the primary one that we're talking about, have been the beneficiaries of very cheap products and goods.
But it still hasn't given their lives purpose and meaning they don't have that job.
They, you know, they don't have that community.
Those communities got hollowed out.
Those factories got shipped overseas.
You know, so I think that like that's a big reason that, and you're correct to notice that, that like where is that pride in American ownership or American-made stuff?
We don't really have it.
We just have pride in the result, the money and however it's made.
So it is interesting.
I mean, this is a very interesting thing.
That's why if you own assets, if you own real estate or stocks, you've made a lot of money over the past 50 years because all of those things have gone way up.
Bonds, all that.
If you're somebody who makes money on the W-2, if you're a wage employee, you're not really, you haven't seen your wages increase.
And things have gotten more expensive.
So you're getting fucked, but the people that own stuff aren't.
So I think that's the challenge is to try to balance that out.
Tell me about Steve Bannon.
Very interesting guy.
He's a rich guy, made a lot of money, has been saying, he's like Bernie Sanders in the sense they've been saying the same thing for 30 years.
Whether you like him or hate him.
Does he want to help?
Does he want to just cause a ruckus?
No, I think he wants to help.
I think that I wouldn't agree with him on all down the line everything, but I think he understands overall the idea that we've created a situation with China that seems untenable, meaning that we've put ourselves in this position with Taiwan, with these chips, where we are vulnerable in ways that people don't imagine we are.
And I think he's recognized that outsourcing all of our manufacturing, having 90% of our antibiotics made over there and things like that have made us vulnerable in ways that people don't think we are.
And, you know, and this idea, the trade-off of like, hey, but the shirts are cheap at Walmart isn't a trade-off that makes sense to him.
And it would make sense to other people.
There's smart people on the other side that says, no, it is better.
And here's why.
We have a service sector.
Go be a bartender or something.
I don't know.
Steve Bannon's whole point is when you take the manufacturing core out of the country and you replace it with a gig economy of people driving Ubers and DoorDash and Lyft.
All of those people are going to need some form of government assistance because their lives have been kind of immiserated by these conditions of like not being able to have a steady income at a job.
And I think he says, you know, he goes, that is a big problem.
Now, the people that make a lot of money from importing people to come into America to cut grass and do nails and babysit your kids and tutor your kids and the tech guys who like to bring these visas, there's indentured servants and you put five guys in a room and go just code.
I don't want to pay America.
Steve Bannon, who everyone calls it racist, was the only person I've ever said.
I've never heard anyone say there should be more black and Hispanic people in tech and it's a crime that there's not.
That's the Steve Bannon quote.
That's the Steve Bannon quote.
So is America first from Bannon?
Is he the...
I think so.
I think he's the one.
I think he's the guy that put that political philosophy into perspective in a very eloquent way.
There's very few people that have done it the way he's done it.
How does he feel about the current administration?
He's very skeptical as I am about a lot of the tech people.
He thinks they're using Trump.
He thinks they were Democrats till about five minutes ago.
Which seems like they were.
And then they all became Republicans and they all have tons of money.
He likens them to oligarchs.
I think he's absolutely right.
And a lot of them want to, you know, go to Mars or put chips in people.
A lot of them are transhumanists.
And, you know, their goals are pretty radical when measured against what American people are talking about right now, which is like better wages or healthcare or whatever the case may be.
A lot of people are not super invested in going to Mars.
So I think Bannon thinks they're laundering their, what they want, the Bezos, Andreessen, Mosque, Bezos, Zuckerberg people are laundering their true intentions through this America First thing.
And now they're all like, hey, I like bow hunting and I think we should be less woke or whatever.
But Bannon's like, no, the end game for these guys is to just suck money out of the government the way the big financial institutions did in 2008 when they put a gun to the head of George W. Bush and said, we need trillions of dollars or this whole market collapses.
He thinks that that moment is coming where the tech people go, we need a Marshall Plan.
We need all of this tax revenue so that we can go compete with China with AI because the deep sea king came out.
And if it is to be believed that that is true, we are behind in AI.
We are losing to them with TikTok.
They have a much more addictive algorithm.
The biggest app in the last five years is a Chinese app.
So we're losing to them.
So he thinks the tech people are going to go and put a gun to Trump's head and go, we need trillions of dollars now, and that is going to be financed by the taxpayers.
If the tech CEOs say we need trillions of dollars, is their goal benevolent in that they want to beat China in this AI race?
Or is that a Trojan horse so that they could just funnel that?
It's a little bit of both.
I think they do want to be competitive, but they're also, they've become the wealthiest people that have ever lived.
They're probably going to be trillionaires very soon.
And the country is suffering from a tremendous amount of wealth inequality.
And that's driving people to political extremism, to fentanyl addiction, to our cities, a lot of them are unlivable.
These are problems.
And I think Bannon recognizes that you can't have five trillionaires deciding the fate of humanity.
They also want to merge with AI.
They want to get rid of human beings.
They want to put chips in us that will significantly alter your humanity so that you can compete with AI.
They want the end of the human race.
I mean, that's truly what they want.
They don't really even disguise that.
So Bannon's a devout Catholic.
I'd probably disagree with him on a few things.
Some I wouldn't.
But I do think that he's very interested in human beings staying human.
And so do you think he's been given an unfair shake by media?
For sure.
I mean, listen, I think everyone will always be.
I don't even think it's worth even noting.
I mean, listen, everyone is going to be given an unfair shake.
I give people an unfair shake.
It's what the job of any of us to do because a fair shake would be like, oh, I'm your friend.
You know what I mean?
Like, because we're all human beings and contain multitudes or whatever.
I give Gavin Newsome an unfair shake.
I just know that the fucking beach, I like to go to the beach.
It's all fucking burned.
So I think we all give each other an unfair shake.
He's talking about issues no one's really talking about that are the most interesting things, which is the future of human beings.
And everyone's avoiding that.
In five years, when you, you know, I'm literally taking what he said verbatim, but when people go, there's only so many openings at Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, whatever.
And do you give your kid the chip and give them the advantage?
And these are really interesting questions.
And do you chip, you know, maybe not yourself.
Maybe he goes, I'm going to ride this out as a human being, but fuck it.
My kids are going to have the competitive advantage.
I mean, they're already kind of doing that with Adderall or whatever.
All that's different.
I mean, it is a massive advantage.
So, yeah.
Have you ever taken Adderall?
Yeah, yeah.
Like as an adult, I never took it when I was like younger and like struggling to pay attention while taking the fucking SATs and doing the reading section.
Like it's a huge advantage.
So that's the question that I think the big questions that are coming up now.
Where do we, where do we go?
The most interesting thing right now is not Russia, the Ukraine.
It's not Israel-Palestine.
It is and always has been China.
This will be the most interesting.
Do you believe the deep seek?
I don't know.
I don't know enough about it.
I know very smart people.
Some of them believe that it's exaggerated.
Didn't they open source it?
Didn't they come out and say, hey, look at here's all the.
Yeah.
Some of them believe it's slightly exaggerated.
And some of them believe, no, it's a Sputnik moment.
Like it's a real thing that is we are we are way behind.
And I don't know.
It's a problem for us to create the chips here.
It might be a pretty stupid question, but like supposedly from what I understand, it's half art, half technology.
You've got to have a highly specialized training to do it.
And again, everybody here wants to put their pussy on the street and be famous and be on, you know, it's the, you know, I mean, I think that it's just we haven't steered people into that.
But there must be some sort of hardware that they have in Taiwan that some of it.
But I mean, it would just be, it's the same kind of question where it's like, could they set up Wall Street in another city?
Of course.
But it's just been Wall Street forever.
It's like there's more that goes into it than people realize, right?
Like, I think it's part cultural.
It's part economic.
It's part, you know, there's all kinds of things that go into the development of any industry.
Could you move it to another place?
Absolutely.
Is Austin going to be Hollywood?
Absolutely not.
Hollywood will either not exist, but it will never be that.
Yes.
Will a few comedians get really, really big?
Absolutely.
And that's great.
You cannot transfer an entire, the movie business will just die.
It's not going to Texas.
Renee Zellweger.
Doesn't mean that Texas is a bad place.
It means that they'll make some films there like they make them in Atlanta, but it's not going to be an entire city that's revolving around.
Yeah, it's not going to be.
And maybe there'll never be another city that revolves around it again.
But it won't be that.
You can't pick up an entire industry and just airdrop it into Bastrup, Texas, and go, good luck.
It's not the way it works.
Culture develops over a very long time.
You know what I mean?
And I think that like, that's the whole thing.
And I think that the China-U.S. collision course is the most interesting.
And you think it's all going to be AI-based?
I think it's going to be fighting for tech supremacy.
I think it's going to be satellite supremacy, fighting for the supremacy of satellites.
I think we're blowing our satellites out of the fucking air.
I think we're blowing theirs out.
I think they're blowing ours out.
I think some of those drones were them.
I have good sources on some of those drones being them.
Not all of them.
Some of them being them.
But they did the hot air balloons or whatever.
Of course.
I think some of those drones are them.
I think they are incredibly capable.
And I think so are we.
Yeah.
Good news is so are we.
We've got our version of the spy balloons.
We've got our version of the spy balloons.
We just don't have an ability to influence culture over there like they do here.
They shut it down.
Yeah.
They shut things intelligently so.
And they also shut down like the tech, the tech guys, I feel.
But they weirdly need us.
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So it's interesting.
There's a dependency on our consumption.
Yeah.
But there's also our dependency on their creation.
So we're all in this bed together.
Which is kind of good.
So why we keep acting like there's like a war impending if we both need it?
Because there probably is.
Like you actually think hot war?
No.
I believe China feels that if they've fired a shot and Bannon talks about this, that they will have lost.
They believe in insidious methods of warfare, infiltrating societies, corporate espionage.
It's far more effective.
Far more effective.
That could also mean, you know, outages and, you know, like electromagnetic pulse attacks, things that are hard to trace to them, things that will just make society more chaotic.
But I feel like you can even do that more effectively and subversively through the social media stuff.
All of that, yeah.
Like owning, like I never thought about how powerful like our social media is in disseminating like sexy, sugary American culture throughout the world.
Sure.
And now that like China, let's assume China has control of the algorithm and they can like feed different communities what they need to feed.
You can sow more civil unrest, you know.
Like to me, that's way more effective than a power outage.
Just get people in America hating America.
Well, that's they're absolutely doing that.
And I think they'll also look at attempts to hack a grid or whatever.
And I think they're also looking at corporate espionage.
And they're also, I mean, I think it's all over the place.
Okay.
So what about this idea?
Every American is born.
The government puts $10,000, $2,000, whatever the fuck it is in the S ⁇ P 500 for them.
So basically open up a Vanguard account.
Yeah.
Right.
So now every single American born is immediately invested and they can't take it out until they're 22 or something like that.
It's immediately invested in the success of American industry.
Right.
So now those like CEOs that are making all that money and that you're furious at and you hate that they're taking money from the regular people.
Now you're actually almost rooting for them because the better those companies do, the better your portfolio does.
Now you're invested in the success of America.
Yeah.
I don't hate the idea of people getting some of that.
I just want people to beans test it.
What does that mean?
Meaning like there's a lot of people who don't need that two grand.
Even better, like do it for the people who are less fortunate, obviously.
But like to me, the most important thing is this huge swath of people that have kind of been forgotten about post the question is what would two grand do in that span of time?
Or 10 grand.
And by the way, I'm not against that idea at all.
Compound interest.
I think the average American, myself included, I'm like financially illiterate.
I didn't know what compound interest was in the effect.
I just had money like sitting in a bank account when I'd come back from like a funny bone every weekend.
I didn't know what to do with it.
I think that's a good.
You were smart.
You knew real estate.
So the second you made money, you were able to.
I was just in that business.
I wasn't smart.
But it was just, it felt like a good place to have money, not even multiply it ridiculously, just have it.
And then it could go up, but it's not, you know, crypto and all that shit is a way to make real money quick.
I actually think what crypto is on some level is Americans who feel like they've missed out on massive stock gains, trying to find a way to get that incredible success that they see all these other people get.
Some of them are having it.
And they are.
Some of them are having it.
It's more accessible than opening up a Vanguard.
I think that's a good idea.
I think investing people, I agree with you.
I think giving whatever it is, whatever amount of money that is, I don't hate that idea.
It doesn't have to be giving, but like, how do you be giving?
That's where I would want it.
That's where I would go with it.
Say again?
You wouldn't want it back.
Yeah.
100%.
It's giving.
But like, I don't know.
I just feel.
It's a good idea.
You want patriotism.
You want people to love the country.
Get them invested in the success of the country.
If they feel left behind, of course they're going to be resentful when these CEOs are making $50 million a year bonuses.
I think people just, I agree.
I think people just want a reasonable shot at a good life.
And I think that's gotten too difficult.
And I think that you should do that.
I think CEO pay is only, it bothers people in the sense that they see themselves and their families falling behind.
Yeah.
So if there's a way to make, you know, people, you know, more secure, I don't think they're worrying about what a CEO is making unless it's so egregious or whatever the case may be.
I think the problem we play, we play a game in the financial markets where it's like people bet their company's going to fail.
They make money off that.
Like there's all these secondary market where you could play a lot of games.
It's gambling.
It's not investing.
It's gambling.
It's just, it's divorced from value.
And I think a lot of people are going, hey, man, I teach your kid or I put your son or daughter in an ambulance if they're on the road.
I should be able to live.
Yeah.
Because what you're doing, which is, you know, playing games on Wall Street or whatever, it has, you know, whatever, but it's like, I'm putting your kid in an ambulance.
Yeah.
I'm doing something more important.
I'm in their mind.
Yeah.
In their mind.
It's to me, no.
I think it's, no, but I think it's like, it's some kind of importance.
It's some kind of importance.
What do you want out of the next year?
You're incredibly successful.
I mean, where do you go from here?
Isn't it a scary place to be?
You sold out arenas all over the world.
There's nothing left to do.
There's no place for you to go.
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What do you do now?
You're at the pinnacle.
Let's be a dad.
Is it not a terrifying place to be?
No.
Just be a dad.
Aren't you not terrified?
No.
This doesn't scare you.
No.
Aren't the worst things in the world not getting what you want and getting it?
That's a line from the movie Limitless.
I'm like.
I don't know.
I'm not like, I don't have the same bottomless pit that like some people have.
Ooh, we got a lot of bottomless pits.
Yeah.
Where it's like, oh, there's pits that have no bottom.
And you just listen to these people complain.
It's like, what are you, what are you complaining about?
You fucking, dude, you did everything.
Like, I had specific things I wanted to do.
So like after doing them, I feel really good.
And anything after that, I'm like, oh, my God, this is like gravy.
I got a kid.
I want to spend as much time as I can with a kid.
I don't want to like abandon the kid.
I don't want to be on the road all the fucking time.
Of course not.
And then any other like creative endeavors I come up with, I just want to try to make really cool shit.
But I need to like live a little bit.
I can't be on the road all the fucking time.
Yeah.
You end up doing like an impression of your act if you just never stop.
At least I.
Well, you're also, you're a dad now.
You want to be a human being a little bit and just and they have more stuff to talk about.
And that's very interesting.
Yeah.
I think that will make the best.
Like I think this, not, I'm not trying to like plug, but I think this thing that I made was the best thing I made because it was actually something that really impacted me and it was very important to me.
For sure.
And I put a lot of time into it.
And I wasn't like, oh, I need a new hour so I can make money.
Right.
It was something you wanted to do.
I really was excited to do it.
I wanted to do it.
So hopefully I take a little time off and maybe there's another thing I'm like really excited to do.