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Lawsuit Over Cotton Field Project00:10:03
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan Show.
We are here.
Thank you, everybody, for watching the special and your kind words trended on Netflix for about a week.
Maybe still trending, don't know.
One of the top search things on that platform.
We really appreciate that, as well as, you know, Tom Segura and Joe Rogan having me on to hang out, promote that with them, had fun discussions with both of those gentlemen and Christina P.
We did a crazy live stream at your mom's house, and then we did Joe the next day while we were down in Texas.
And now we are back here in Los Angeles.
And really excited.
A lot of people really feedback is very positive.
So we're happy about that.
And, you know, it's, you know, it's good to have it out there and done.
And then, you know, we are moving on to other things, to many other things.
Books and films and all kinds of stuff that is not in the immediate future, but hopefully in the not too distant future.
We are working on a lot of stuff.
There's a, I sent this article to Ben.
This was really strange.
And, you know, usually when people sue, I always go, like, you know, do you really need to sue?
Because we're such a litigious country.
Every billboard is like, sue them.
There was a billboard when I was growing up.
Me and my dad used to pass on the highway.
It was called 1-800 Sue Them.
And that was the billboard.
And it was about, you know, your ability to sue anyone for any reason at all.
That's the type of country that, you know, we have.
We have a country where the legal system, you know, basically exists as a place for personal vendettas, for get-rich-quick schemes, as a way to arbitrate any and all disagreements.
But then there are things where you go, okay, I get it.
I get it.
Now, whether you're a fan of lawsuits or not to handle problems, there are certain stories where I go, oh, I could see that.
I could see a lawsuit there.
That makes sense to me.
Black mom sues LA Unified, which I believe is a school district over a cotton picking project at elementary school.
Yep, this is going to be one of the lawsuits that I can understand.
A black parent filed a civil rights lawsuit last week against the Los Angeles Unified School District and the Board of Education saying that a cotton field was set up at an elementary school in 2017 that was intended to teach students about the experiences of slaves.
Roshanda Pitt said her 14-year-old daughter, who was referred to as SW in the lawsuit, experienced emotional distress as a result of the project at Laurel Span School that her social justice teacher said was to help students, quote, gain a real life experience as to what African American slaves had endured.
Oh boy.
The suit also names the school's then principal and social justice teachers defendants.
Since the project, Laurel Spanned School was closed and a new school, Laurel Cinematic Arts Creative Tech Magnet, was created in its place.
She said in September of 2017, her daughter, who used to vibrantly share her day with her mother, became very quiet and reserved.
And imagine this.
One day, as Pitts was dropping off her daughter on campus, she saw a cotton field in front of the school and called the office to speak with the school's principal, Amy Diaz, who was unavailable.
Pitts spoke with the assistant principal who explained that her daughter's class was reading Frederick Douglass's autobiography and that the cotton field was created so students could have a, quote, real life experience of slavery.
Well, they had a whole big thing.
This was right over in West Hollywood.
Of course.
Of course it was.
They had a whole big thing.
And so she didn't have to pick the cottoner daughter, but she had to watch other students complete the project while she cared for other crops in the garden.
I mean, God, God, God help us.
So I like they say, well, we're teaching the white kids about what happened with slaves.
So they're going to have to pick the cotton.
But why don't you go tend to some okra or some other vegetables in a garden?
So they have to have, they're making a black girl tend to vegetables in a garden while watching white people do the cotton thing.
And this is a good idea.
This was someone's idea of a good idea.
And now there's a lawsuit.
And there's a lawsuit now.
I don't know how much emotional distress the daughter experienced.
I imagine it's something, but a jury will decide.
But again, it's one of those things where I go, of all of the things that people sue over.
If your daughter came to you and said, I, your black daughter, came to you and said, I, today at school, they did a project where we picked cotton to learn about the experiences of slaves.
I can imagine that you would be upset about that.
That would not go over big.
So there is a lawsuit and we don't know what will happen.
We are waiting here with bated breath.
We don't know.
Sad.
They tried to change the name of the school.
They tried to, but this is going to follow them.
It's going to, there's no getting around this.
The problem with this is when people, when people start to use their imagination and they're trying to be good people, they tend to do the most horrific things that have ever been done.
This is not uncommon.
When people are trying to be good people and they don't know how to be and they think they can flip a switch and understand something or be a quote part of the solution on the right side of history,
whatever it is, and they start using their imagination, they start being creative about how to do that.
The horror is unending.
It's a terror will be unleashed.
They will do things that they think are genuinely good until people see them and go, what the fuck is this?
I mean, they will literally, I mean, the idea that they had a cotton field in front of the school.
Like they had to, this was not an accident.
This was planned.
It happened with the full knowledge of many, many people that had to sign off and go, this is a good idea.
Let's get the kids out there.
Let's get them picking cotton.
Then they'll understand what the slaves went through if they have to pick cotton in front of the school.
Insane.
But this is what happens when you have people that are going, like, how can we creatively show children what slavery was like instead of worrying about other things?
They go, how can we, let's put our heads together.
How can we recreate slavery today for the kids?
No, no, no.
I know, I know.
We got the math test, but we want them to feel the lashes on their back and the calluses on their hands.
We want to recreate chattel slavery today at school.
How can we recreate settler colonialism after lunch?
Yeah, it's a bad idea.
This is a bad idea.
This is not a good idea.
This is the opposite of that.
West Hollywood Crime and Gas Chambers00:02:59
But this is not surprising.
I know some people that would do something like this thinking that it is good.
You know?
No, we built a gas chamber in the gymnasium to teach the kids about, what do you mean you're upset?
What are you upset about?
How are they going to know what the Holocaust was like if we didn't build a gas chamber in the gymnasium?
We wanted to give the kids, yes, well, some of the kids got to be little Nazis and then some of them got to be Jewish people.
It's to because they're becoming better people.
What is wrong?
It's absurd, but this is the this is what happens.
So go get the money.
Make them cough up some money.
I'm going to talk about the condominium in LA right now that's on the market for $50 million.
Don't you want to spend $50 million to own a condo in West Hollywood?
Google West Hollywood and hit news.
West Hollywood.
Okay.
Let's see here.
First article, member of Rappers Entourage shot.
Ends up in West Hollywood before dying in hospital.
Three sought in fatal shooting at gas station near Beverly Center.
A buoy.
West Hollywood is a problem.
You're not good.
For crime, if you Google West Hollywood crime, you can just read some of the stories about things that are going on.
That's not good.
Two weeks ago, the crime has risen by 38%.
Man shot near Weho.
Gun owner thwarts home invasion.
Go to the sheriff's weekly crime report.
See what's going on.
Assault, grand theft, grand theft, residential burglary, strong-armed robbery, strong-armed robbery, strong-armed robbery, grand theft, burglary, robbery, vehicle burglary, vehicle burglary, vehicle burglary, other weapon.
Vertical Living in Los Angeles00:08:19
Well, how about $50 million to live in the penthouse of a new building, a new, because in Los Angeles now, they're trying to introduce this concept of vertical living because people, you know what's happening?
Los Angeles has always been the home of the single family house with your yard and maybe your pool and your dogs and kitties running around and the husband tinkering with the car and you're in the back, you know, looking at the lemon tree or the orange tree.
Idyllic, lovely, yes.
But now people are coming in the windows.
They're climbing over the fences.
They're hanging out in the yard.
Maybe a bit of rape, they say.
Who knows?
And they're killing.
So what they're trying to do is they're introducing vertical living because people say, good news, we'll make condo buildings and we'll charge millions and millions of dollars for these condos and we'll put guards outside of them so the people that want to rape and kill you can't get in.
And we'll put all of the things you'd want, all the finishes, the bathrooms and the kitchens and the marble and the wood and the pine and the oak and the traverteen marble and the this and the that.
And you get it all and it's all behind guard gates, guards and gates and guards and gates and gates and guards and guards.
And it's going to be like the castle from the Wizard of Oz with the flying monkeys.
And we'll have an army of flying monkeys if anyone comes near us and we'll have a moat and we'll have alligators in the moat.
And if you have the little key fob, you can get in.
You get right through and the alligators say, well, how do you do?
And they let you in.
It's not a big deal.
50 million is the penthouse apartment.
This article says a special kind of crazy in LA, a $50 million condo in the land of homeless tents.
There's something funny about Los Angeles, the idea that it has the biggest homeless population in the world.
And all the hit shows about LA are about real estate.
It's all about high-end real estate and everybody is living in a, you know, like a cooler.
Everybody's living in like a Coleman cooler and nobody is seeing any of the irony in that in that it is the selling sunsets and the million dollar listings and the beverly.
There's more shows, so many shows all about the privilege of selling real estate or buying it in Los Angeles, California.
And they're trying to sling a $50 million condo in Los Angeles.
Wow.
I mean, big time.
And you can, from your condo, that is 50 million, look outside and you will see people who are filthy,
dirty people from head to toe, soot, lesions, maybe they look like lepers, pushing shopping carts full of their belongings in the hot summer.
And maybe people like that.
Some people might like that.
That might be a benefit.
But that is a potential view from a $50 million condo in that area.
You might, I mean, imagine paying $50 million for a condo.
And then outside, you're staring and you're just watching society unravel in front of you.
Interesting.
Get up the video of these realtors talking when the fire alarms are going off and the police are going off.
This is a very, very funny thing.
A bunch of the top real estate agents in Los Angeles, California are gathered together to talk about how great it is to live in Los Angeles and the pride of it and the weather, how great it is.
Go to Con or wherever.
Let's just listen to this.
For the summer, for the year, whatever.
I think a lot of New Yorkers are coming for the summer with the intention of maybe staying.
But they all want to rent first.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why Malibu is so crazy.
Malibu is sold out.
You can't.
So let's.
I have one for the month of August.
I have one left on Los Angeles.
I always forget the name, not Los Flora.
So Josh, what do you think?
Josh, you're saying you have one.
You can just hear in the background.
You're going to only have one friend, police sirens and fire trucks as the city burns.
I'm not spending $180,000 on La Costa.
That's literally what I love.
$180,000.
And guess what?
He actually did get it.
He leased it for two weeks for $60,000.
Two weeks for $60,000.
They have to address the police sirens in it.
You have to have a 31-day rental in Malibu.
For those who are tuning in just now, you're with The Real Deal, TRD Talks Live.
We're with some of LA's top brokers talking about the market and the changes since COVID.
Steven, let's zoom out a little bit.
Night Frank puts out the well-proportioned year.
This one must have come out in January, February.
And they had, you know, they rank, they sort of rank LA against the other alpha cities, New York, London, Miami, et cetera.
Investment, lifestyle, many other, many tiers.
LA was sixth or seventh in sort of the running compared to some of these cities.
What's your sort of unscientific take on where it could be now after all?
There's going to be a reversal because if you look at the cities above LA that on the Night Frank chart, they're all high-rise cities.
And you have Hong Kong above LA.
Which is the density of everyone.
Yeah, but with the political upheaval going on there, prices are going to go down and people are going to leave.
They're not going to give up their freedom and COVID.
So Los Angeles, because of horizontal living and the incredible weather, I was surprised to see livability that Los Angeles was down in the 10 or 12.
Maybe traffic?
Well, traffic, but if you have to work and live in a big city, there's no place like Los Angeles.
There's no snow.
The air is relatively clear now.
Yeah, traffic, but you wind up living.
You wind up living where traffic isn't an impediment.
You're not driving from Covino to get to your office here in Jerry City.
But let's talk about our police department.
Listen to it.
You can hear them right now.
Two minutes response time.
No, less.
Yeah, so they're ill.
They're all mentally ill.
So they're all sick.
And to live here to do that job, and God bless them, but they have to be ill.
So they're sitting there telling everybody what a great city it is and how the weather is amazing and you can't live anywhere else.
How could you live anywhere else?
And in the background, it is the sounds of hell.
Just sirens and fire trucks and cops responding to, you know, I don't know, some woman who lit her children on fire or, you know, two homeless people who are eating each other in the street.
Like, but they all got to smile.
And it's, you got to keep it light.
Keep it.
Hey, keep it light.
It's like a Saturday Night Live sketch.
If you know, that was a thing you would laugh at.
But this is so funny.
You just got to, hey, keep it light.
Keep it light.
What about our, what about our police response time?
Hey.
And they know full, they know full well what's going on here.
They know full well, but I get it.
Judges, Prisons, and Evil Parents00:09:52
They can't, I mean, get that money.
So, I mean, I'm just saying, if you have $50 million and you want to buy a condo, there's no better place to do it right now than in West Hollywood, California.
It's a great investment of $50 million into a condominium so you can do stand-up comedy if you so choose.
You can go and tell people what gets you going.
What is your problem?
So, this judge that sold a bunch of children to, um, former judges who sent kids to jail for kickbacks must pay more than 200 million.
These are some evil fucks.
They were selling kids to jail, to private prison.
Are those kids worth 200 million?
Great question.
But U.S. District Judge Christopher Connor awarded $106 million in compensatory damages and $100 million in punitive damages to nearly 300 people in a long-running civil suit against the judges, writing the platinums are, quote, the tragic human casualties of a scandal of epic proportion.
In what came to be known as the Kids for Cash scandal, Mark Civarella and another judge, Michael Conahan, shut down a country-run juvenile detention center and accepted $2.8 million in illegal payments from the builder and co-owner of two for-profit lockups.
Now, if you remember any of this, this was the guys they were giving draconian sentences, very long sentences to kids because this is where they were making their money.
Civarella ordered children as young as eight to detention, many of them first-time offenders deemed delinquent for petty theft, jaywalking, jaywalking, truancy, smoking on school grounds, and other minor infractions.
These guys should be executed, truly.
They should be put to death and killed.
I mean, this is insane.
The judge often ordered youth he had found delinquent to be immediately shackled, handcuffed, and taken away without giving them a chance to put up a defense or even say goodbye to their families.
Should we have on the show a thing called point for Hassan Piker?
And should we have like a little thing?
What is he?
What race is he?
I can look it up.
Let me see.
Is he Turkish?
Hassan is of Turkish descent, it says.
So should we have a little Turkish delight, the candy?
And when something very bad happens in the capitalist system, should we say, point for Hassan Piker?
We put the little Turkish delight over there.
The little cube.
The little cube.
Don't you like that?
Is that a candy that you like?
Yeah, you got me in Australia.
Yeah, I don't love it.
But this is a point for him who did, he did like a 71-minute reaction video to my Joe Rogan rant.
Oh, really?
I think so.
I don't know.
Who knows?
I mean, it's, you know, the guy streams 38 hours a day.
Okay.
I mean, I get it.
I'd be doing it too.
I'd be doing it too.
Tim Dylan eats pancakes.
Let's react to that.
But what does it say about the capitalist system?
It's unlikely the now adult victims will even see a fraction of the eye-popping damages award, but a lawyer for the plaintiff said it's a recognition of the enormity of the disgraced judges' crimes.
I mean, the judges, this is the evil of people that pervert this system.
You should not have private for-profit prisons.
It's a bad idea.
Now, do they sponsor our show?
I don't know.
Probably.
But they're still not.
It's not a good idea to have private prisons where children as young as eight years old are going there for jaywalking.
Isn't that crazy to you?
Of the 280 people, it says 79 were under the age of 13.
79 of these kids were under the age of 13.
That's horrible.
And they were sentenced to these crazy long sentences, right?
How long?
I mean, it would vary, but I mean, enough to really ruin your life.
Look at this.
Several of the childhood victims who are part of the lawsuit when it began in 2009 have since died from overdoses or suicide.
Yeah.
Can we just for a minute?
Can we for a minute think about this from the judge's perspective?
I said for one minute, not forever.
Okay.
Kids are pieces of shit.
No, it's listen, it's still, these judges are bad.
They should be executed.
Really?
I mean, they're evil.
This is evil.
This is insane.
Kids for Cash Judge released from prison over virus concerns.
Yeah, I missed this part of the article.
Because of COVID, they let him do, what's it called?
I don't know.
It's called this.
Release to home confinement with six years left on his sentence because of COVID.
So he like.
What?
Someone, I mean, Jesus.
What happened to Vigilante Justice here?
If that was my kid, I would kill these.
I would kill these judges.
I'm not saying you should, but I would.
You know?
Some of these parents might have been like, take this kid and get it out of here.
I got things to do.
Man, evil behavior from these guys when you're talking about...
And by the way, this isn't okay if people are older either.
I'm not trying to do one of these things where I go, oh, the guy's 25, you can sell him.
This is a bad idea.
And in fact, fucking schools should start building private prisons in the playgrounds to teach the kids about confinement in a for-profit institution.
And if I was a teacher, and I should be, we would have private prison simulations all the time where kids would be locked up and we would explain to them why this happened.
That seems like a good idea.
And I'm for it.
These judges are horrible and hopefully they die.
Yeah, I mean, this is crazy.
Have you, you know, a lot of like people, like, and I know some people do.
I don't know anyone that went to one of these private prisons.
I don't know.
As a kid, I don't know anybody.
My neighbor Jill once put a pins petition on me, person in need of supervision.
And Jill lived next to me and my parents would sometimes be gone.
And I was in the backyard with a friend of mine and we were smoking pot.
And I think we threatened her with a knife.
But it was like a joke, but we like waved a knife right and we're like, we'll kill you.
But it was like not, you know what I mean?
She called the police.
I got a pins petition, person in need of supervision.
And I had to go to like family court to get that lifted or get that removed.
So that was like CPS or something?
CPS, exactly.
Child protective services.
And they tried to put a pins petition on me.
And you had to go to my uncle.
And we went to court and we got that removed.
And I said, I've been doing the right things.
And, you know, I'm a good person.
But this is a this is a real problem.
If you do not have a family that can help you and a judge like this sentences you to a situation like this, you will end up ODing or you will end up turning to drugs.
And it's incredibly sad.
So these guys are pieces of shit.
Point for Hassan Piker.
Do you imagine Turkish Delight?
We put it there.
We'll stack them up.
What's the other side?
What?
Well, is there another side?
Yeah, when he's not right.
Cobra Kai Dojo for Homeless People00:04:38
Okay.
And then that's also Turkish Delight.
No, that would have to be like an American food of my heritage, like a potato.
So if he's wrong about something, we'll put a potato on one side of the scale.
I like that.
Like a big scoop of mashed potatoes.
It will fulfill the desk and see who's correct.
I, of course, I'm kidding.
You know, I just, this is an egregious example of the horrors of the current system.
I mean, really.
Can you find...
And by the way, I want to talk about this.
This new season of Cobra Kai is insane what they're going to do.
Okay.
No, and I didn't know.
Well, you don't know that.
You don't, this is not.
Okay.
I have inside information here.
And I barely want to discuss this because this is going to enrage people.
And I don't want to be the first one to talk about it.
Cobra Kai is a show on Netflix about karate, right?
It comes from the karate kid, right?
It's in its fourth season.
It's fourth season on Netflix.
It is a, what would you call this?
A reboot or an extension?
It's a sequel to the original karate kids.
It is a sequel to the original Karate Kid films.
What they're doing is they have these dojos, these warring dojos of these martial arts groups, kids, they fight each other and they dislike each other, right?
Cobra Kai on Netflix.
They're adding a dojo.
This is true of all unhoused people in Los Angeles, homeless people who are forced to beat the shit out of each other for food.
And the kids and the homeless people fight each other.
There's a third dojo this season and it's all homeless people in Los Angeles.
And the kids go and fuck them up.
The kids are like grabbing their fucking chopping carts and threatening just beat the shit out of them.
And then the homeless people learn karate and they come back and they fuck these kids up.
The homeless people learn the art because it's martial arts.
They learn how to control themselves and it is actually the pathway for many of them to get housing and to get sober martial arts.
And this is the whole idea is that martial arts is actually what needs to happen with the homeless.
And then it is not more funding or even more police or more enforcement.
Literally, it is martial arts is what changes the, the changes the thing for these homeless people.
And I just think that's a little weird personally that they would do this Cobra Kai on Netflix would do a whole season where you have a dojo of homeless people being forced to beat the living shit out of each other.
I mean, to me, it feels wrong.
You know what?
It feels tone deaf to me personally.
It feels tone deaf to me personally.
They teach the homeless people, many of them who have like, one of the new characters is a guy with like Iraq war flashbacks.
Okay.
And they teach him how to quiet his mind.
And Michael LaRusso grabs him and goes, quiet your mind.
He's like, you don't know the things I've done in Fallujah, the things I did for this government.
And he's like, quiet your mind and beat the shit out of that kid.
And now you have just homeless, homeless people learning karate because that's really and you know, in all seriousness, it's probably the reason that many of them are homeless is that they don't have discipline.
And actually, in Cobra Kai's defense, martial arts is like a great organizing principle of how to like structure your life.
So like it, it's maybe not the worst idea to give homeless people free karate lessons and let them join the dojo.
There are certainly worse ideas that I've heard.
Yeah, especially for that show, I think.
Yeah, that show took a shit around season three.
Villains, Cheating, and Stage Cameras00:15:21
Yeah.
And it's over now.
It's all over.
You know, the kids on Stranger Things are like 38 years old.
They're like divorced twice.
You're going to bump into one of those kids in LA in like three years.
It's going to be like, I'm divorced, bro.
Like Finn Wolford's going to have like a divorce in like five years.
And he's going to be like sitting there, like drinking coffee in a cafe, like smoking cigarettes, staring at the ground.
And you're going to be like, hey, what's going on, Finn?
You're going to be like, hey, yeah, what?
What's going on?
He's like, yeah, I'm fucking divorced.
I can't work because I'm 40 and I still look like a freak.
I'm kidding.
You know, Rosebud Baker, a comedian, just did some movie that he directed.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I don't know which one.
I won't show it on screen.
I'm just curious.
We're not trying to give these people publicity.
They're doing enough on their own, really, frankly.
You know, who helps me?
Does anyone help me, by the way?
Does anyone help me?
Or do I have to keep pumping everyone else?
Can anyone help me, please?
Yeah, his first feature film.
It's called, what's it called?
Well, I think that's what he's to write and direct new horror comedy film, it says here.
Yeah, why am I not in it?
Why am I not in it?
Am I not funny?
Nice.
Am I not horrible?
His directorial debut.
What's it about?
Let's see.
Oh, write and direct a new horror comedy.
It's called Hell of a Summer.
Plot details and storylines are being kept hush-hush, and it's unclear when the film is slated to hit leaders.
What?
Why can't we know what it is?
Hell of a summer.
Is it about when we put my mother in a home?
These things always suck.
Horror comedies?
Always bad.
Yeah.
Always Cabin in the Woods.
What else?
I was going to say Army of Darkness.
Okay, there's some things that are Sean of the Dead, things like that.
Oh, yeah, I love that actually.
But what?
We just keep naving.
No, no, you're...
No, you're right.
It's like three.
Ben's a fan of art.
I'm a creator of it.
We have very different, we have very different opinions.
True, we have very different opinions on things.
I am a creator of art.
Ben is like a fanboy.
So we have different, we have different reactions, but he did direct a Netflix special.
And by the way, I don't think people understand how difficult it is to direct a Netflix special because you stand-up comedy special because you have to point the cameras at the stage.
It is one of the hardest things that anyone has ever done, which is why every member of Ben's family has tagged him 95 times in the thing that says directed by Ben Avery because they're so proud of him.
And they have a reason to be proud of him because the people that shot the special work for Louis, C.K. and Joe Rogan, this group of people.
So they were incredibly new at this.
They were novices.
They had only done, what, four specials with Joe and four with Louie or something?
They hadn't done a lot.
So Ben made sure that they all pointed the cameras in the direction of the stage and not, I don't know, the lobby of the theater or someone else.
How was it working with them?
What were the real challenges of the challenges of getting the cameras to face the stage?
Well, first of all, I was thwarted immediately because I tried to leave all the lens caps on the cameras when they were shooting.
Because I was actually trying to sabotage the whole thing.
Well, but no, let's think about it.
Your family's incredibly proud of you about this.
And they're very proud.
And do they understand that any of them could have done this?
Like, do your brothers and mother understand that they too could have done this thing that you did?
Should we say they are also executive producers?
And by the way, why is my fat agent on a...
That I did not know.
Why is he, why special thanks to him?
I think, well, he got me the meeting with Brady.
So he set up a Zoom meeting with Brady.
Did he put himself?
Did he put himself as special thanks?
Because no one put him.
Oh, no, I think it's Sam Talent, Wendy, who runs.
And I think it might be Justin.
I know it is, but who put him?
That's hilarious.
No, I mean, literally, who put him?
I have no idea.
As special thanks.
Who put him?
I don't know, man.
I put Sam Talent and Wendy.
Who put him?
Once it got into Netflix's hands, someone could have just sent them a note.
Well.
It wasn't me.
Well, it's just a little bit absurd and insane that my agent who sat there through the first show that was unusable eating spaghetti or whatever he was doing has put himself as a special thanks.
You know who no one thanked?
Me.
Everybody else got thanked.
The agent, you.
Well, it was difficult.
It is difficult.
It's not an easy thing to do to point cameras at a stage.
It is very difficult.
And I'm very happy that Ben did it as well as he did.
It was tough and trying, but we appreciate that.
And we are very, very, very grateful to him.
A genius of a man who was able to point a camera at me for an hour.
It's like this show.
It's exactly.
Well, this show is more difficult.
Occasionally you look something up.
It's a little harder, right?
But it was, you know, that was pretty big.
Andrew Tate, they've removed him.
I don't know why they're removing him.
They're just removing people now they don't like, it seems.
Yeah, and they never give a clear-cut here.
Yeah, they never give a reason.
I mean, by the way, I've heard a lot of what he has said, and I know some of it gets people going, but, you know, some of what he says that I've heard isn't that crazy.
What is this?
Misogyny is a hateful ideology that is not tolerated on TikTok.
What?
That's not true.
Yeah, I just, they seem like they're removing people with whom they have underlying ideological differences, and they're just trying to figure out how to get rid of them.
And again, I'm not joining Hustlers University.
I won't be signing up, but I don't think you should, this guy should be removed.
I don't, you know.
What is like, do they even tell anyone why?
Well, they just say you're misogynist, but then they don't like.
The thing is, they don't link you to the specific thing.
But wasn't he a misogynist a month ago when he was on too?
Like, this is what I don't understand.
What's changed?
Why can't a misogynist talk?
I don't understand.
He thinks, let's say he thinks men are better than women.
Let's say he has that belief.
I mean, I don't know.
Should he not be able to say anything?
You know?
I'm just, I'm unmoved.
People will counter his belief with their own beliefs.
Some of them will be quite persuasive.
You know, I just don't understand why.
Now it's like misogyny is the grounds.
Yeah.
And now getting kicked off.
And apparently he's been booted from Twitter as of 2017 because he tweeted.
Now, here's a specific one.
Right.
He tweeted that women who are sexually assaulted bear some responsibility.
Now, I don't know the context of that post, but, or what made him think it, but I think if you look at his larger quote, his larger context, he said something to the extent of if you go out and get drunk and go home with a guy and get into his bed and he does the wrong thing, you have to analyze some of your behavior.
Now, by the way, you could be offended by that.
It's absolutely appropriate to be offended by that and say, I think that he's justifying or excusing rape.
But I also don't think, by the way, that that is a crazy beyond the pale opinion that is not held by lots of people.
And what I mean by that is this.
There are a lot of reasonable, rational people out there that think that, yes, men are violent.
Certainly when you add alcohol to the mix and they're strangers and it doesn't justify their behavior at all.
But the idea that a woman doesn't have to take extra care to protect herself in our society is probably naive to believe that.
So I don't, you know, again, I just think that like they want a villain and he may want to be the villain.
I don't know.
I think they're casting him in the role as the villain and maybe he wants to be that role.
I don't know him.
But if I look at the examples I'm being given here, I'm not seeing anything sufficient to remove this guy from social media.
Yeah.
Completely.
I don't see any reason for that.
And again, no one's going to care what I say.
Right.
But I did just speak on the Joe Rogan show and I said the most I said the most meaningful thing that's ever been said on his show.
That rant I had was the most articulate, meaningful thing that's ever been said in the history of the world.
To be honest, it was.
Do you believe there was anything that's ever been said that's better than that?
Sermon on the Mount.
What's the Sermon on the Mount?
I think it's that one Jesus did where he was like, we should all be nice to each other and stuff.
Yeah, how'd that work out?
I'm like, it's like I'm talking about shit that's real.
It's going to actually happen.
You're talking about fairy tales.
Yeah, I just listen.
I'm not saying that women should be blamed for rape.
I'm saying that someone should be allowed to offer an opinion on a controversial situation.
In one video, he demonstrates how he would attack a female partner if she ever accused him of cheating.
Quote, it's bang out the machete, boom in her face, and grip her by the neck.
Shut up, bitch.
It's bang out the machete, boom in the face, grip her by the neck.
Shut up, bitch.
What's he doing there?
Cutting her head off?
He's just describing how he would attack a female partner if she ever accused him of cheating.
And he goes, it's bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck.
Like you got to threaten her.
She got it right up next to her.
Well, but if my whole thing is, if he didn't cheat and she's accusing him of cheating, how's he supposed to respond?
I'm confused.
Maybe it's in, maybe it's in a better context here.
Should we play this?
Maybe it'll make sense.
Yes.
Okay.
A man can only cheat if he loves someone else.
If I have a woman who I truly love and I go out and fuck and I come back to her and I don't care about her and I only love my girl, that's not cheating.
That's exercise.
If she even talks to me, it's very funny.
By the way, that's incredibly funny.
Yeah, it's not that bad.
Well, you know, listen, man, people are going to, this is what's going to happen.
The bigger you get, the more of a target you become.
And listen, I'm not saying Andrew Tate is, you know, I don't think he should be the go-to for, I think young guys listening to him probably will get some bad ideas in their head.
But young people often have bad ideas in their head and good ideas in their head, and they sort them out as they get older.
This is not new.
None of this is new.
I had bad ideas in my head when I grew up.
And you know who they were from?
My parents.
You know, now there's people on the internet that can influence people for sure.
But there's a lot of other people that can influence you too, positively, negatively.
I don't see any rule.
The ruling is gavel, put him back on social media, please.
I don't see any reason holding the machete to someone's neck.
If that's a problem, well, I don't know.
Get me out of here.
He didn't do it.
He said it.
I'll put a machete to someone's neck.
I mean, that's...
Hypothetically speaking, he would do such a thing.
If.
He said, if.
Right.
X, then why.
If I'm accused of cheating, I'll use the machete.
But he's not really going to do it.
It's probably a goof.
It's a joke.
I don't know.
He's got to be a villain all the time.
Where a society, and you make a lot of money being the villain, by the way.
People like villainizing you.
And around the time the UK police were investigating abuse, Tate is understood to have left the UK for Romania.
In one video, explaining his reasons for the movie suggested it was because it'd be easier to evade rape charges.
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He goes, this is, quote, probably 40% of the reason.
I'm not a rapist, but I like the idea of just being able to do what I want.
I like being free.
Well, but does that mean he's raping people?
Technically, no.
He's saying he likes the idea of having it as an option.
Because you could read that two ways.
He goes, listen, I'm not a rapist.
I like the idea of being able to do what I want.
I like the idea of doing that when I'm free.
So I think there's a way to interpret that where he's going, listen, I'm not like Sasiko.
I just don't want to be, I don't want to live in a nanny state.
But I didn't know.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think he's.
Then in April, the Brothers Mansion was raided by police following a tip off from the U.S. Embassy that a 20-year-old, 21-year-old American woman was being held against her will.
Tates were taken in for questioning before being released and denying wrongdoing.
The Romanian authorities said last week that the investigation later expanded to cover human trafficking and rape allegations was ongoing.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know about any of this.
He just had a cam house where he would like, there was like cam girls and stuff.
I mean, what are you going to do?
I mean, you know, my problem is when you take somebody off social media, they can't respond to any of this.
Right.
This is the big problem.
If you destroy people's ability to respond, you can say stuff about them.
And this is a Gavin McGinnis point, actually, that I'm making here many years ago when I knew Gavin.
He is also controversial.
But Gavin said, yeah, they kicked me off all these things and I couldn't respond.
So people could say anything about me.
They could say I'm a Nazi.
I'm this, I'm that.
And I did not have any place to respond to what was being said about me.
So no matter what you think about Gavin, that is a valid argument that if you kick somebody off and you call them names, maybe they're true, maybe they're not, but that person now has no recourse to talk back.
And then you can kind of villainize them and create this character that they may or may not have been.
And this seems to be the MO of a lot of these companies.
This is what it seems to be.
It does not seem to be changing.
And I do believe this ultimately will lead to a kind of a schism.
Google schism and tell everyone what it means.
This is going to lead to a schism.
It is a split or decision between strongly opposed sections or parties caused by differences in opinion or beliefs.
That's correct.
This is what it means.
What it means is that I believe you're going to see, I think Rumble's one of the first attempts at this with a lot of people on it.
You're going to just further see people retreating into their corners here.
You think Tate will go to Rumble?
He could be a Rumble guy.
I could see that.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Or as a pickup artist guy, those guys usually have their own websites.
He could go on a pickup artist forum and probably destroy behind his own paywall, though.
Right.
Listen, I don't know what he's doing.
I'm sure the courses he teaches are not going to lead you to be a billionaire.
But I think when you just take somebody off all of social media, it is, you know, there has to be some.
There has to be Andrew Tate's Hustle's University Affiliate Program shut down following meta-ban.
This guy got so big so quick.
Yeah, they put a stop to that.
Yeah.
And again, I don't know much about him.
So, I mean, it's very possible that he's not a good guy, but there's a lot of people that aren't a good guy, right?
It's also possible he's misunderstood or whatever.
And, you know, I don't care.
You know, whether people are good or bad to me is such a boring and it's like, it's like, what is the greater, what is the, what is the greater threat?
This guy or companies deciding whether or not you can speak?
It's like, is this guy, this like pickup artist guy with the university the biggest threat?
Is he a bigger threat than the collusion of government and big tech?
This big blob of power that's completely unaccountable that can shut you off at any time.
Is that not dangerous at all?
Does that not merit a discussion?
And we're talking about whether a Romanian guy got in a fight with his girlfriend in 2017 because he's hot on the internet for three months.
This is the thing.
He must be vanquished now.
Before what?
He becomes the president?
I'm confused.
As always, again, it's not defending, you know, the forest for the trees, which is something that no one can see and people choose not to.
If fathers cannot go back to talking to their sons, we're all doomed.
Doesn't matter if it's Andrew Tate or whoever.
If people cannot go back to educating their children about how to act and behave, then I don't know what hope there is, really.
So this guy can be this kind of a scapegoat and he's got some wacky ideas, but at the end of the day, you know, I think it's, you know, you got to look at really what is the reason for his popularity.
What is the reason for the popularity of a lot of people?
Is it because we do live in a world where many manifestations of traditional masculinity are kind of bemoaned and demonized and called toxic, and that Dudes are trying to figure out and navigate a new landscape.
And sometimes it just feels good if somebody goes, hey, fuck it.
Fuck it.
I'm going to say egregious, crazy shit because the new world is exhausting, tiring, and there's nothing in it for you.
They're building a world where if you're a straight white guy or any straight guy, really, you're constantly told that inherently your nature is a danger and a problem.
And there's somebody who comes along and goes, no, it's not.
You're actually fine.
You're okay.
And that's popular.
Well, of course it's going to be pop.
Why wouldn't it be popular?
Now, yes, does it go too far?
And does he say crazy shit?
I'm sure.
It's the internet.
But well, why is it?
Why is it getting an audience?
Why is it gaining traction?
Because no one is speaking to these young kids, young men, young dudes, they're not being served by anybody speaking to them.
Groups of people that are being championed or being included in a discussion or being praised do not include a lot of these young dudes who have no idea where they fit into society.
So it's the job of their fathers or the job of their families, communities, but maybe all that shit's not working, right?
Maybe it's not happening.
Enter Andrew Tate.
Enter whoever.
And, you know, some of what he said, I think that I've heard has been pretty good.
It's like, stop whining, figure yourself out.
There are ways that you can be self-reliant, productive.
You know, this doesn't mean that these are all going to work, but I do think some of it is positive, for sure.
And I've always had a problem when everybody goes, yeah, we're just going to delete people.
And then everyone goes, good.
And then they enjoy the deplatforming of their enemies.
And then when it happens to them, they don't, they don't make the connection.
They fail to make the connection.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I would not, I don't know if I'd be buying his course.
I don't really, I don't know how many people's course I would buy.
What is his course at Hustlers University?
Is it like lesson one, how to choke a bitch out with a machete?
I don't know.
It's supposed to be like, helps you with investing.
But I'll join it if it's about the machete.
Thanks for all the positive feedback with Ben's directorial debut.
TyndaleComedy.com for any live dates if we put them up.
We have a merch drop.
When's that coming?
You've handled that too.
When's that coming?
Well, didn't you say you want to move?
Is your family going to do that?
Are they going to go, congrats on the merch, Ben?
Ben emailed the designer who did the merch.
You think we'll have like seven of those things?
Congrats to Ben.
He emailed the merch guy.
Congrats.
Yay.
So when do you think it comes out?
Like January?
Like when you sing like October 1st?
I would like it to come out in late September, October.
Do you think that's possible?
Very possible, yeah.
Ben's angry with me because we ended up recording the episode late, so he harbors a lot of resentments and rage.
He's a very rageful and angry person, but that anger only destroys him.
It has absolutely no impact on me.
You understand?
No, I'm a sober person.
I don't have resentments.
Ben white knuckles his sobriety and has resentments and rage issues and anger.
But I don't have those things.
Yep.
Every second you spend hating is like stealing a precious jewel from yourself.
That's right.
You know what resentments are?
It's hating someone while they're out dancing.
They're unaffected.
So I'm unaffected by your hatred of me.
You've been very hateful all day.
You don't feel like that.
I thought I'd been like funny and fun.
You've been very sloth-like and hateful.
Sloth-like.
Yes, you've been very tired.
You've been like spaced out and kind of out of it.
And, you know, it's just the behavior.
Just the behavior.
It's not my.
It's not my fault.
It's not my fault.
Right?
What's not your fault?
Whatever you're going through.
I don't think I'm going through anything.
Okay.
I'm just, I'm just.
You're tired.
No, I'm just, I'm not even tired.
I'm just chilling.
I'll be up till five.
Why will you be up till five?
Get the episode out?
You're like the slaves on the plantation outside of that school picking the cotton.
You want to sing an old slave song together?
Oh, how about what's that one?
I don't know.
Really low voice.
Well, that's not a slave song.
It's Old Man River.
That's a slave song.
No, he's just on a...
He's on a river boat.
But is he like, I don't pick cotton?
Oh, yeah.
He does say that.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, I didn't.
You know what it is, that.
Yeah, I guess it's true.
Do you have anything else to plug here?
Well, can you get them excited about the merch?
You keep downplaying the merch.
You're like, oh, it won't be.
It's going to be good.
It'll be fine.
I came up with one of the designs for it.
What is your design that you came up with?
The golf one.
The golf.
Okay.
I chose the typeface.
Yeah.
I came up with a design for the knife fight.
Well, don't tell him.
Don't tell him.
Surprise.
Supposed to be a surprise.
No one's supposed to know.
I came up with fake business.
You came up with the Enron logo in the Alph.
But I came up with the actual fake business.
But I edited the podcast that you did that went out.
That's correct.
And I could have, like, the camera could have been out of focus the whole time.
Maybe I could have forgot to hit record.
That's right.
Lost the sands of time.
That's right, but you didn't do it.
I'm sure you'll do that more and more often as you try to kill me.
Which is fine.
Stop imitating Joe.
It's so wrong of you.
No!
Stop.
Idiot.
The delusional.
It's 1.03 a.m.
We've got three more hours to go here.
Unless I put it out tomorrow at six, because I wonder if it'll mess us up in the algorithm to put it out so early.
When are you gonna put it out?
I'm thinking maybe tomorrow at six since it's so late.
If we put it out, no one's gonna be up, no one's gonna be watching it, and then it's just gonna get yeah, put it out tomorrow at six.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Oh, I forgot it's Saturday, yeah.
What can you play Aquafina doing the black scent from?
Following the Queen to Saturday00:01:39
Yeah, I just can't play the uh video.
Yeah, yeah, I'll just do the audio and do the audio, yeah, yeah.
Aquafina black scent.
Oh, there's like compilations of her doing this.
Oh, that's amazing.
Black scent compilation.
Yeah, I just won't play.
Uh, we just leave with this because I think it's funny, okay, and I don't know why anyone's mad at it.
And I actually think it's I like this, I think it's fun.
Sorry about Danny.
This is the Ocean H recruitment scene.
Oh, I gotta slide through this now.
She hit him back though.
She likes, she likes it.
Oh, here we go.
Three card Monty.
Okay, follow the queen, live your dream, but don't sleep.
Don't sleep.
Cause she might disappear.
I like it.
That's crazy to me.
She likes you.
All right, let's hit it and we're following the queen.
She said, let's hit it inward.
We're following the queen.
I like it.
I think it's good.
I think it's fun.
Wait a minute, Jack.
Now, by the way, is that Andrew Tate's fault?
Dude, that's so crazy.
Is that Andrew Tate's fault?
Is there a way to blame that on Andrew Tate, too?
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