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Elevating Voices of Color00:02:09
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan show.
Starting off a little seriously this episode, we've been thinking a lot about the show and the direction that it's going in.
And, you know, I was at the dinner the other night and somebody said to me, you know, you've never had a woman of color on the show.
And this is true.
And it's because, number one, it's because I don't have guests.
Usually it's a show without guests.
It's kind of me ranting.
You guys are familiar.
But I started to think about it and I started to think about like that I needed to kind of make some changes and why not use this platform to elevate people that have been marginalized historically.
And why not use the platform to bring on a woman of color to speak?
I think that's very important.
So I think now it's time to kind of throw a bone to progressives, listen to people, reach across the aisle, you know, in terms of everybody should be listening to each other.
So I said, I was like, I absolutely, at dinner, I said, I 100% am going to bring a woman of color on the show.
I think it's the right thing to do for somebody like me that has a platform.
I truly believe that.
And I'm not kidding.
I know I'm a comedian, but I'm not kidding about that.
So without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Candace Owens.
Candace, thank you so much for being our first woman.
That one.
You're our first woman of color on the show.
And I really am grateful that you came on.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
I love being the first one.
What a pioneer.
And yet I feel that it's not going to go as you planned in the comments section.
Well, I'm just, I'm hoping that everybody recognizes that I'm, you know, really trying to elevate.
She doesn't count.
Is it weird to you?
Is it funny that there is so much of a push to listen to people of color, women of color?
And you, who are an author, you've got millions of followers.
You drive the national conversation.
When you say something, people listen.
But no one would ever think for you to be the woman of color that anyone should be listening to.
Right.
Laughing at Political Caricatures00:04:32
That's because progressives only like black people if they're going to complain about being black and say they're a victim and sort of fall into that narrative, the ism narrative, as I like to refer to it as racism, sexism, you know, whatever it is.
And because I am a content person, because I like America, because I don't hate white people, because I don't hate men, that disqualifies me from the oppression Olympics.
So I do find it to be hilarious because I think it reveals who they actually are, that it's not about giving a platform to black people.
It's about uniformity.
And I am not uniform.
So kind of.
And you're also, you know, it's interesting because I observe you.
You're a happy person.
You're happy.
Like you enjoy your life.
You're happy.
You got a great husband.
Congratulations.
You're pregnant.
You have a baby on the way.
You're not a miserable person and you don't seem invested in other people's misery.
Like you, yeah.
And I think, is there a psychological component to a lot of politics right now that we're not realizing where you see some of these people, when I see somebody with purple hair screaming, I go, there's something else going on and it's not always political.
It's usually just a mental disorder, which none of us are equipped to address.
You know, with trying to make yourself unattractive, screaming, shrieking, finding, you know, issues with everything.
Like you just, anything that, you know, screams normal to them, they have to attack it.
They're just like, this needs to go because it's too normal.
It's a horrible way to live.
So I always say, if you look at the life of a leftist, they wake up every day and they are trying to figure out what to be upset about.
Eventually that has to rot your soul.
Like, you know, to be looking around, to walk in through a grocery store and be like, you know what?
These Aunt Jemima freaking pancakes have to go.
You know what I mean?
Like, I look in and I'm like, ooh, like, what's in the meat section?
Um, so I just can't imagine they don't realize the weight of their own mentality.
Um, and I'm the exact opposite person, I'm always happy, and that's partly because I have a family.
Um, we just have a very good sense of humor.
We just always made fun of each other growing up, we don't take ourselves too seriously.
So, I think having a sense of humor just makes life better, and the left just does not have a sense of humor about anything.
Well, it's true.
I mean, one of the things there's so many comedians that do respect you, and a lot of them don't say so publicly because you really live by that code of listen, you can say whatever you want about me, I'm gonna laugh it off.
We did a video where I dressed up like a coronavall, and the coronavall said that the coronavall is gonna come and go up your nose and find you in a grocery store.
And I know Chappelle's talked about you and other comics and SNL.
You really roll with it, like you don't care, you laugh it off.
I love what you said about SNL.
I think you tweeted, your show hasn't been funny since 2009, which is true.
Yeah, why, why are you able to laugh things off?
And why are so many people on the left, but also you have certain people on the right just not able to do it?
Well, you know, I think first and foremost, I, like I said, I love humor.
So, like, I grew up watching all of the stand-ups, and I think it's sad that comedians aren't allowed to say things unless they're politically correct.
Political correctness is not funny, it's just not funny, right?
Um, so like I always say, uh, it was Chris, Chris Rock's bigger and blacker.
It's one of my favorite, all-time favorite stand-ups.
And you, if you watch it from start to finish now, he could have never performed this in 2020.
Um, he would have been burned over the coals.
Um, and what's beautiful about it is he starts out the first thing he says is racially charged.
He comes out on stage and he's like, White people in the back tonight.
Then he starts going on about all of these stereotypes, making fun of black people for the baby mama culture, making fun of white people, being like, if it's a school shooter, you know, it's a white kid, right?
You know, all of these things like you could never say today.
And by the end of it, this incredible thing happens where everyone in the audience, no one escaped, whether you were Chinese, black, white, gay, straight, no one escaped.
And you sort of realize, you know what, we all kind of suck and we're in that together.
And there's, there's a beauty in that, there's a humanity in that and not taking yourself so seriously and being able to laugh at yourself.
Like, I appreciate the stereotype, even the caricature of Candace Owens, right?
So, like, I found your thing to be very funny because it was hitting at this caricature of like, Candace Owens doesn't think I'm real.
And that's funny.
I should laugh at that and not be like, how could he make fun of a woman of color expressing her opinion about the pandemic?
Like, it's just so boring.
It's funny.
Debating the Daily Wire Stereotypes00:09:11
Are you ever invited?
You know, when they do, because you will debate anybody, you'll talk to anybody.
You'll sit down with anybody.
Are you ever invited to these colleges for these debates when they talk about critical race theory or intersectionality?
Does anybody ever say, let's bring Candace in?
Or is, I mean, even as I ask the question, I feel like I know the answer because you'll go, like, you'll show up and you will bring your ideas to people.
But do you, are you surprised by how little that happens?
No, I'm not surprised because everything, everything that they believe in is a lie.
It's a misrepresentation.
And it relies on no one in the audience having a modicum of intelligence to be able to counter it or being too fearful to counter it.
So you could be sitting in the audience when the left is spewing their, you know, racist, sexist, misogynist, BS, but you're white and you're straight.
So you got to shut up, right?
And they built that safe, they built that safe space around themselves because you just have to shut up.
Unfortunately for them, according to their own rules, I'm at the top of the progressive stack.
So they have to let me talk, which means that it relies on two people locking based on intellect.
And the left cannot lock with me on intellect because I'm going to hit them hard.
I know that all of it's BS.
So they do what they, the only thing that they can do is pretend that I don't exist.
Is there any really smart person, whether it's Dr. Cornell West or whoever where you go, it would be a tough debate.
Like, do you ever look at somebody on the left and go, because I remember asking, I think I asked Ann Coulter this.
I was like, and I think she said maybe it was Pat Cadell or Mickey Kaus at one point, who's kind of drifted maybe to the center now.
But is there anyone on the left where you go, yeah, this is a person who I don't agree with, but I kind of respect them and I think they're smart.
So you brought up Cornell West.
I've debated him.
Right.
Right.
I've sat down and I spoke with him.
And the thing is, is he doesn't play far left when he's in the room with me.
And we actually agreed on a lot because he's smart enough not to say ridiculous things and drive himself to the far left, which is just making no sense.
Right.
So we were able to have a respectable dialogue.
And to be honest, now I feel that those sorts of moderates have all sort of kowtowed to the far left and their arguments are getting more and more ridiculous.
So there isn't anyone that is kowtowing to the far left that I'd be afraid to be in the room with and debate.
I find much more fear in debating people on the right that I mean, like I would never debate Larry Elder.
That is one person that I have been open about.
Like, thank God we're on the same side because the man is an absolute, he's absolutely brilliant.
He doesn't forget a single fact.
And I think he's got like a photographic memory.
But on the left, I mean, there's women can be men.
Men can be women.
Like, what do I need to prep for?
Right.
Like in a debate about that.
You know what I mean?
Like, kids should be able to pick their gender.
They have the agency.
You know, they can't figure out not to stick their hands in toasters, but yeah, sure, let them decide on their entire, you know, lifestyles when they're two years old.
So they're just so crazy right now that no, there's no one that I'm fearful to sit down in the room with.
Right.
Now, you got some flack.
You, you often do.
And this was about Harry Styles wore a dress on the cover of, I believe, Vogue or Vogue.
A ball gown.
You get it right.
A ball gown.
Now, my whole point was that no one can afford, if you told me, Tim, go get Harry Styles dress on the cover of Vogue.
I mean, if my mother was like, you know, you're about to kill her, I couldn't find a ball gown.
I don't even know how to buy these clothes.
They're too expensive.
Most people don't.
I talked about it on my show.
I'm like, I don't think this is such a huge problem because nobody has a job.
But what, that was a firestorm.
So what about that?
You saw that and you go, they're trying to get rid of traditional masculinity.
Do you think it's, do you think it is kind of that plot?
Or do you think it's kind of just like Harry Styles trying to get attention and being ridiculous?
Like, I feel like there's probably not a lot of dudes in the country that are going to start dressing in like Christian Dior ball gowns.
Yeah, you say that because our generation, and when I say our generation, I'm speaking about millennial, older, a bit younger, sure.
Because we didn't grow up with this with culture telling us that men should be women and women should be men.
Actually, that was something this is a new crazy that the left has unleashed, really has unleashed it, I would say, over the last five years now, where they're kind of harping on these kids to understand that gender is made up.
And, you know, your kid, I mean, who's the chick that's always naked on Instagram?
Emma, Rata, Digi, Ja, Rodakowski, Rogowski or something.
Yeah.
She's always naked, always says it's a new reason.
You know, oh, I'm naked today for this issue.
That's what we call it.
In America, by the way, she does have a nice body.
I wish she would just be like, I'm naked because I have a nice body.
It's a tangible.
There's some social issues, but whatever.
So she's pregnant.
And the first thing she does is issues a long statement saying that she's going to be part of the parents that raise their kid to have no gender and wait for their kid to tell her when she's 18 what gender it is.
By the way, there's no way at 18 that that daughter or son is still speaking to Emily Radikowski.
She better get that.
She better get that.
She better get that sooner.
It is weird.
Like we saw that you, I think it's a, you, You tend to, you, you tell it, what is the church?
Unitarian.
The Unitarian video where they bring up the young kid who was on Twitter who's like two, and they're like, hey, tell everyone you're transgender.
It was weird.
It was all the creepy elements of religion.
It's weird.
It's just weird.
Yeah, it's weird.
And it is because of now we're sort of treading towards this atheist society that they're looking for new forms of religion.
These are new types of cults that are happening.
The left has become a cult where they just want to undo things that we didn't have a problem with.
At no point when I was growing up as a little girl was I like, man, I really wish I could go into the guy's bathroom.
It's just not fair.
Or like, you know, I really wish like I could just act like a boy and all of a sudden it never had those feelings.
I was a tomboy for a period of time, but my mother never said, well, this must mean that you are deep down inside a boy.
And thank God she didn't because I grew out of it when I went through puberty and suddenly I thought that the guys were not cool, but cute.
Right.
So, I mean, in terms of the Harry South thing, I said something that everyone reasonably should have agreed with.
He's not masculine when he's wearing a dress.
And you have to pay attention to those trends because whatever they're putting on the cover of Vogue, that's what's around the corner.
That's what's around the corner culturally.
And I'm just staunchly against, you know, this trans agenda, as I call it.
Of course, if you're a trans person, you're suffering from gender dysphoria, which is a real issue.
Right.
You know, then, you know, you should be afforded every protection.
You should never be attacked.
No, I'm always, I'm always for maximum freedom.
I think maximum freedom.
Too much of progressivism now seems to be about reducing the freedom of others.
It seems to be about corralling people and going, you need to think like I do.
You need to believe this or you are a problem.
Transphobe, homophobic.
Like, you know, and that's what I got for saying that he was not masculine in a dress.
You know, I got called a transphobe.
Like, I'm not afraid.
Phobia means a fear of.
I'm not afraid of men in dresses.
I'm stating my opinion that why can't we just have normal?
Why can't we just see a nuclear family on the cover of any of these magazines?
They're just trying to get freakier and freakier and freakier.
And I think that there is a difference between diversity and perversity.
And now the left is treading towards perversity.
It's not about being diverse.
It's about being how perverse can you get.
And I'm just not for it.
So I say what I say.
And that's that.
Now, you recently joined Daily Wire.
I did.
You're on Daily Wire.
That's very exciting.
Now, why did you just, because now you and Ben Shapiro have kind of, you're a little bit of a team in a way.
Not a team, but you're on the Ben Shapiro team.
Right.
Now, you guys are kind of different ideologically, right?
I mean, you're very similar in many ways, but like I would say he's more maybe a kind of an old school conservative.
And I think you're more of a kind of a nationalist, if that's right.
Am I wrong there?
We do have differences.
Without characterizing it, I would say you're absolutely right.
You're hitting at we are stylistically different.
Right.
And we have had, we've butt heads in the past, Ben and I.
And now what, so what about that move was the move?
You just said, I'm going to do it.
I think it's the right thing.
I think it's, I think what the Daily Wire invites, and people may not realize it now, is that there are people that completely disagree with Daily Wire.
Michael Knowles and I actually tend to agree on stuff more often than not.
And him and Ben Shapiro disagree on a lot of things.
And Michael Knowles has been a part of the Daily Wire team for a very long time.
So I think that they're, you know, they are smart enough to realize that they're not trying to inspire groupthink.
They're trying to, you know, lift different voices and sort of take over, if you will, like, you know, become an alternative to the left.
And everything that we see on TV is always a leftist perspective.
So we, Ben and I will still disagree on certain people, different ideas, but we do so, you know, and are able to make fun of one another and not take it too seriously.
He has a pretty good sense of humor too, I think, for the most part.
I see him.
He has a pretty good sense of humor.
He's not.
Now, about COVID, you know, I just have my producer here and I just ordered two COVID tests.
Navigating Pandemic Economics00:05:39
You know, we have no symptoms.
we're not sick, but I'm spending about $600 to have a guy come in here.
We do this a lot.
Like they talk about canceling student loan debt.
I want them to cancel the thousands of dollars I've spent on COVID tests where I don't even know if they're accurate.
No one really knows all a guessing game.
And then the doctor comes over.
They barely, they don't have a mask.
I'm like, you're not afraid.
So now COVID, COVID's clearly real.
It's clearly a problem.
But you have, and I don't know that I agree with you here, but you make kind of a compelling case that this is part of something larger, that the, that the, that it's been inflated to a degree.
Now, and how would you say that?
Because I was listening to you.
You did a live stream, I think, last week where you said, I have been calling out how COVID is going to be used to get Donald Trump out of office for a while.
You've been calling it out probably since February.
That's right.
But it's happening all over the world.
And it is something that's an actual disease and it can be quite devastating.
But what do you think has been done on the left, in your estimation, to inflame the situation or to make it a catalyst to remove Trump?
Well, first and foremost, COVID was never going to kill millions and millions of Americans.
That was always a lie.
It was about basically transforming America, a free society, into a totalitarian state.
Going into this year, Trump had a roaring economy.
And there used to be that expression, it's the economy stupid.
It guarantees you a second year.
We did not have a mail-in ballot system, which is the most fraudulent, susceptible system that you could possibly have in terms of voting, implementing that entire system virtually overnight in all 50 states and just going, there's no way there's going to be any fraud.
So I was calling that out, which seems obvious.
So his economy got crashed.
You changed the entire way that America votes, which allows for more fraud.
And at the same time, you're crashing American businesses when we know that China was very close to, I mean, essentially what China has been trying to do for those of us, you know, who study foreign policy has been taking the Belt and Road Initiative, getting all of the world to turn to China as the world leader.
And that's very much happening right now.
I mean, China, despite implementing genocide on the Muslims, somehow has a seat on the humanitarian board at the UN, which makes entirely no sense.
China was able, a country of 1.3 billion people, right?
I've been to China.
Everyone's like this at all times, was able to knock out the coronavirus and reopen everyone's businesses in two weeks.
And we just can't figure it out in the West.
They can't figure it out anywhere.
And our infection rates, first they were playing around with the death rates and we had the censorship from the tech.
People were coming out and saying, yes, my father died of cancer and COVID-19 is on his death certificate because in post-mortem testing, which has never been done, they're looking for a strand of this virus, which the majority of people who get it are asymptomatic.
I mean, I've probably had COVID 10 times.
I've declined to wear a mask.
I've traveled to at least four countries.
You know, right at the height of it.
I've had, I've had, and I say this in my act, I believe I've had COVID for 10 years.
Yeah, I mean, there's no way I don't have it.
So if this is the big, deadly virus, guys, and by the way, here's the thing about the left.
If they actually thought that it was a big, deadly virus, we were all going to die, they'd be encouraging Trump rallies.
They hate Trump supporters, right?
They'd be like, yes, all of you go into a pit and then we expect all of you to die.
I hosted events with thousands of people.
They were sanctioning protests, but then saying, so, I mean, it was just the entire mainstream media narrative made entirely no sense, but they wanted us to be home.
They wanted us to be on our cell phones.
They want us to be essentially just paying attention to them.
And the psychological game of it, the death ticker, that was the thing that I was like, this is like next level creepy stuff because no matter what you have going on in America, you have never seen a death ticker.
You've never seen the news tell you every time somebody dies of something.
How they even were able to do that, considering your health records are private, yet they were somehow telling you how many people were dying of COVID-19 was completely bizarre.
If there was a death ticker to tell you every time somebody died in a car accident, you'd never get in your car because it creates psychological trauma.
And that's what they were trying to do, psychologically traumatize people to fundamentally change the way that we act every single day.
And it happened.
People bought into it.
I mean, I just was at the grocery store and a woman came up to me and she just said to me, Excuse me, you're pregnant.
I want to let you know if your mask is not over your nose, like you're going to catch this thing.
Ironically, you know, me, I love Whole Foods.
And I turned to her and I said, I, I don't care if I get coronavirus.
I mean, what is wrong with you?
What weird, like, I'm a young, springy, 31-year-old woman.
If I get coronavirus, I promise you it's not going to be anywhere near as bad as the flu I had two years ago, which wiped me completely on my butt.
And we've never had a flu ticker.
We've never had anybody talking about flu is more likely to kill children.
We never made children wear masks during flu season.
I just saw kids.
10 times more likely.
I just, I rented a house in California and I'm, and I'm, we're driving to get breakfast and me and my producer and we see high school kids running in masks and it was very odd.
Like they're at gym and they're running outside in masks.
That's when I go, this doesn't make any sense.
I understand you're in a crowded place.
You want to wear a mask, whatever, but running outside a mask, it does feel cultish and weird.
Yeah, it's just weird, especially because the statistics are in.
The kids are more likely to die of the flu.
So why was why weren't we masking these children every flu season?
And it's because it's all about the psychological trauma of seeing a child in a mask and we're all in this together.
Arguments on Justice and Jail00:15:35
All of this like commie type rhetoric.
We're all in this together.
It's your quote on the other night.
It's your global family now.
Don't have Thanksgiving with your family.
We're all a part of a global family.
I'm like, I don't care.
You could say something to me a million times.
I am a pretty strong-headed, bull-minded.
I'm going to be with my family.
I'm not going to mask my family.
In fact, I have a strict no-mask policy in my home.
So I respect how you want to live, you know, run your home.
You're not allowed to wear a mask in mine.
And that's just my, my kid's going to grow up like a normal kid.
He's going to breathe.
So if you have an issue with that, then you can hate Candace.
What?
Are you?
Do you think, do you think there's any chance that Trump pulls this out?
I do 100%.
Really?
Candace, really?
Yeah, I think the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court has, I have been talking about the fact that this election was going to end up in the Supreme Court since February.
You can go back and watch my interview with the Daily Caller.
It might have been early March.
And I have said this is the most rigged election, just looking ahead at what was down the pipeline in terms of what we were, how we were fundamentally transforming our society.
I expected there to be a lot of fraud.
And I expected that Trump would appeal to the Supreme Court.
So at the end of the day, this is going to come down to whether or not they are able to prove and not just prove, but be able to communicate what they are saying about the fraud.
I am sorry.
I don't care if you are on the left, if you're on the right.
If you believe that Joe Biden secured the most votes, like that, that there was more energy for Joe Biden than there was for Barack Obama in 2008, you're kidding yourself.
What would the argument be that it was an anti-Trump vote?
Nobody was excited about Biden.
It wasn't.
It just, it's not even, it wasn't because it wasn't an anti-Trump vote.
You know, we know that 30% of people didn't even bother voting.
Right.
So despite the fact that we are completely submerged in politics, not all of America is.
So for me, it's every day, it's stay in and day out.
But I also know that my cousins that live in the projects couldn't give a stuff about anything that I do.
Like my cousins literally, I went to eat with one of my cousins.
Her name's Mia.
And I'm like, I was talking about Brexit.
And she was like, what's Brexit?
I want to hang out with her.
I want to hang out with her.
I'm sick of LA, everybody, talking about politics.
I want to go hang out with your cousins and the projects tomorrow.
And I said, I said to her, I said, Mia, it's, you know, the Brits left the European Union.
And she goes, what's the European Union?
Yes.
And I was like, I love you.
Yeah, I love her too.
I love her too, by the way.
I want to go hang out with her.
Do you, do you, what explains, and I mean, you have a huge part of this.
I think I tweeted that.
I said, Candace Owens is a huge thing.
Now, the black conservative movement is very, no, it's not covered by the media at all.
And you're the biggest voice in it, but there's tons of people out there, Coleman Hughes, whatever, a lot of different people.
And the media ignores this like it's not happening.
And some of the most interesting conversations that are happening online are black conservatives that are talking about American policy and disagreeing.
And it's very, very interesting.
Trump made gains with minority voters.
What do you think explains that?
Because we've had the most strenuous year for race relations probably that I can remember.
And Donald Trump, who's a very volatile figure, gains with minority voters.
What would you attribute that to?
People like me, independent voices.
People are not buying it anymore.
And goes back to what we talked about earlier, the fatigue of victimhood.
I mean, if you weren't tired of being just black this year, when everything, oh, you're struggling, you know, just being black.
I mean, at a certain point, I kept saying black America is going to wake up to this game.
You can't just keep doing this every four years and popping around and then Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, disappearing like a magic act and then jumping back in, you know, for the next election cycle.
Eventually, black people are going to get smart.
And that's what's happening.
You know, we're having conversations.
We have our own platforms.
This is the reason why the left is ignoring us, but at the same time, pushing for social media censorship, because it's problematic when people like Candace Owens can gain, you know, millions and millions of followers and, you know, they are no longer relying on the mainstream narrative about race, right?
They have another option.
And that option sounds a lot better than waking up every day and being miserable just because of the color of your skin and seeing yourself as a victim.
Like it's, it just feels better.
I have a better product, right?
You get to go out and be happy and live your life.
You can do anything you want because this is the greatest country in the world versus you are a victim, permanently a victim.
Your life is going to suck forever because you were born with brown skin.
But I think it's, I think it would be fair to say that black people face a different set of challenges than white people.
They, they, you know, in many, in many cases, right?
And that way specifically.
Well, I think that if you look at where I grew up, I grew up in Long Island.
In Long Island, a lot of my friends were able to inherit homes because their parents got loans after World War II or their grandparents got loans after World War II to buy these houses.
And they created the suburbs.
I think a lot of black people were excluded, not only from those loans, but also from like those communities, like realtors that showed black people houses would be threatened.
And it was like, so the suburbs and the house, which seemed like the engine of wealth for a lot of middle class families, right?
Building equity in something, ownership.
Black people were excluded from that.
So I feel like there is a little bit of catch up being played, certainly.
There's not because that doesn't explain or account for the reason that black Americans during my grandfather's time did better than black Americans during my father's time.
So that defeats your entire argument, right?
Well, there's more ownership.
So what happened from, you know, the 1950s through to the 1970s that black Americans became more impoverished, you know, owned less homes and became more reliant upon the government structure.
And the truth is, is we married the government, welfare.
And whether you want to argue whether or not that was strategic and whether it's the fault of the government and Lyndon Baines Johnson, you know, for opposing the Great Society Act, which is what married black women to the government, that's an argument you can have.
But you can't say it's because there's this longstanding black American just couldn't break away.
If you look at the 100 years following slavery, black Americans did well.
The fact that Black Americans performed better economically under Jim Crow laws than they are doing today, you just cannot point to a systemic racism.
It has to do with choices, the choices that we made to marry the government, and the fact that we cannot outthink this government structure.
That, you know, Black Americans still believe in the victimhood and will take the handouts, that black Americans will take to the streets and demand.
You know, AOC right now is saying we need to make sure black and brown people, the government pays them to stay home.
Well, hello, welfare policies that were the first thing that crippled Black America in the first place.
They're being reintroduced right now under COVID-19.
So I always see right now, we have a choice right now if we're going to give another 100 years to black poverty by all of us saying yes to more government handouts.
We don't need government handouts.
That's the biggest issue is more and more and more from the government.
The government is not our parent.
It's not our mother.
It's not our father.
It was an attack on the black family.
But if we don't wake up to that, we're never going to get ahead.
Black people make the worst decisions out of every out of every group in America.
And you can compare us to who is, well, who is the most successful group in America?
It's not white Americans.
So your argument about, you know, white Americans.
Is it Asians?
It's Asia.
I forget who it is.
Is it Asians?
Asians, Indians do well.
Indians do well.
I'm Irish.
We haven't done great.
Yeah.
So nobody wants to talk about Asians because it defeats all the arguments.
Well, white people had it easier because no one's going to say Asian people during World War II were Japanese people in internment camps.
Well, that should be the title of that.
Why are they right to both white Americans today?
The title of your next book should be Nobody Wants to Talk About Asians by Candace.
I know.
Exactly.
Yeah, I do understand, but as a white person, I always say to myself, I was a druggie.
I drove around.
I did not get pulled over nearly as much as my black friends.
I feel like they 100% are more likely to get pulled over, more likely to go to jail.
And we're doing a lot of the same things, right?
I was, you know, irresponsible, reckless human being.
And I just feel like I maybe had, I definitely had certain advantages that put me in a better position versus a kid.
You know, just the idea that I had money for a lawyer.
So if like, if there's a black kid who got caught smoking blunt and went to jail and he went to jail and my parents could maybe get me a lawyer to get me out of it, that to me is it's easier being white than if that's the right.
But here's what's wrong.
You just brought up a good point and then you racialized it.
Okay.
Rich people.
Yes.
Economic privilege is a real thing.
It didn't happen because you're white, right?
So it didn't matter if you think that Puff Daddy's son is not going to be better off being pulled off if he has pot, right, than some poor white kid.
You're wrong.
But you've accepted the argument that it's because of the color of your skin, not because of your economic circumstances.
It's because of your economic circumstances.
Oprah Winfrey doesn't have any offspring, but I'll guarantee you that if they ever got into trouble, they'd be able to get out.
Malia and Sasha Obama, who we know like to smoke pot, good, you know, good for them.
They're, you know, they're enjoying their teenage years, right?
They are not going to go through the same things that a poor white trash kid is going through.
Stop racializing.
Do you think we should lead?
People have more privilege.
Do you think we should?
That's common sense.
Do you think we should legalize weed so that we don't have this crazy drug war that's putting people in jail?
No, I mean, listen, I have to think through those arguments more because I do think that first and foremost, I think conservatives that pretend like pot is the worst thing in the entire world are just completely crazy and out of control.
But the issue is the slippery slope argument.
And we know that's real because right now in California, what are they doing trying to with heroin and methamphetamine?
They're trying to make it so you just get a ticket and keep going.
So the problem with the left is that you never just stop at one thing.
You're not like, okay, you legalize pot and they're going to be done, right?
They're like already in California pushing for decriminalizing methamphetamine and heroin.
And this is now an argument that we have to fight.
So it's hard to find what the right answer is when you know that it's never enough to do one thing.
Meaning a couple of years ago, it was all about just gay marriage, just gay marriage.
I mean, the second the Supreme Court passed gay marriage, we were on trans rights and it has been shoved down our throat.
And now we're at kids picking their gender and bathroom signs need to all be all inclusive and men need tampons in their restroom.
So, I mean, I don't know where I stand on it completely because I understand.
But isn't there a little bit of a, you know, listen, the slippery slope argument certainly makes a lot of sense, but isn't there so much pain happening because of nonviolent drug offenders being in jail for so long?
It's disproportionately affected.
People that are, as you said, economically disenfranchised, lots of them happen to be black and Hispanic.
I just feel like there's so much pain.
There's so many real world consequences to that particular law that we should, especially when it is legal in case.
You should criminalize it.
Yeah, it is legal in certain parts of the country and people are becoming millionaires.
Yeah, okay.
So we did.
Decriminalizing is different than saying making it legal.
And I agree with you.
I think we spend a lot of time, you know, the idea of anyone being in prison for smoking pot is just ridiculous.
Now, where are you on?
Where are you?
Are you strictly pro-life?
No abortion, no matter what?
See, I don't know.
We don't know where Candace Owens feels about every single issue.
We don't, are you like 100% never can have an abortion or is there any gray area with you?
The problem is that there's no gray area with the left, right?
So I'm pro-life.
I'm unapologetically pro-life because I understand now as someone who used to be pro-choice, just how brainwashed you are as a young girl in school about abortion.
I mean, until I was 25, I thought it was just a clump of cells, which is crazy.
I mean, that's just so.
That's they're fundamentally teaching you that abortion is birth control and that you it is the responsible thing for you to, you know, kill your child.
And when you look, when I actually understood the history of abortion and studied Margaret Sanger and understood that it was actually a eugenicist movement um, where people were trying to get rid of black people having any offspring, and when you look at the numbers and you realize that it is black Americans that are giving disproportionately it, the black population would be double today if it wasn't for abortion that's a scary thing to even say and that these clinics are being put strategically in black and Hispanic neighborhoods um, you know,
I haven't I have an issue with what abortion was designed to do and the fact that it's been largely successful um, you know, by Margaret Sanger, but you know through and through, is an American success story.
You know she wanted to make sure people um, that were black and brown um, as well as immigrants from eastern Europe uh, were not able to have any offspring.
So I have an issue because i'm educated about it um, and I think the thing that bothers me so much is, I know that the other argument is, well, all of these people having kids, unless you're going to take care of their kids.
You know, first and foremost it.
It makes it seem like people cannot be responsible at all.
You remove responsibility from the person, and we know that the majority of people are not getting raped.
So that extreme argument of like well, you know what if you're raped um, and then you get pregnant and now you're forced to have this killer's kid the left has to rely on that because the majority of the time, you know, it's not rape, It's just people being irresponsible and then deciding that they want to get rid of it.
There's a lot of people that are like, okay, we don't want abortion.
And we, because I understand pro-life people, I'm pro-choice because I don't want to tell somebody else that may have had an experience, whether it's rape or not, that they don't want to carry a child to term.
I don't necessarily think it's my position to tell them that they have to do that.
But then there are people that go on the right, they go, no contraception, no plan B, nothing, nothing.
I don't believe in that.
Okay.
Yeah.
You need there needs to be some.
Yeah.
You know, I don't like late-term abortion.
I think it's, but at the end of the day, I feel like, you know, there seems to just be a, you know, like unwillingness to imagine that we're living in a society where people do have other moral codes.
So not everyone's going to have the moral code that you do.
Not everyone's going to have the moral code that whatever that I may.
At the end of the day, it's like, I think that we need to figure out a way to exist in a society where people can have different beliefs.
And as long as they're not infringing on your ability to live happily, then they can kind of live as long as they're not compelling you, you know?
Candace, you froze.
Candace, we lost you.
Sorry, I just do not accept you talking about abortion when I'm eight months pregnant.
Yeah, I was just, I was just about to say, I said, I, you know, it's just one of those problems.
Recently, we moved our show to CIA.gov and they promised that there would be nothing that they would do, but they said we're going to leave the show as is.
CIA.gov is where you can find the Tim Dillon show now.
But that's my thing.
It's like, we're all, you know, we're all living in a society.
Everyone's going to believe different things.
And I think that we should all try to, we should try to respect each other.
I know that that seems like a crazy statement, but I feel like, you know, people shouldn't infringe on each other's freedoms, if at all possible, unless it's something absurd.
So let me, let me just say something to you.
And I'm going to bring up what I said earlier to you.
So I said earlier to you that, you know, the stuff about women being men, it wasn't the thing that they pushed when we were in school.
Right.
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And that's the thing now the younger generation is grappling with.
They're being told women can be men, men can be women.
Well, our generation was actually what was pushed upon us was sexual freedom, right?
So if you're a millennial, the whole concept, it's just a clump of cells.
Everybody's having sex.
All of this stuff was basically shoved down our throat.
Generation before didn't get that, right?
So you, your perspective on abortion is actually you being a product of your own generation.
And the way that I learned about this, and it's a really good book written by Thomas Sowell called Inside the Education System, The Dogma Veles, the Deception.
He talks about this.
Sounds like a fun read, like a light, fun read.
I mean, I love Thomas Sowell, but he talks about this push for, you know, sexual freedom and everybody's doing it.
And like, but is it, aren't we all products of our generation?
Like, isn't the idea that you, my, me being okay with you voting means I'm a product of my generation too, right?
Yeah, no, there's, there's always some good things.
And but what I'm saying is that your perspective and what was my perspective.
So I'm not even calling you out on it.
I agreed with you.
Right.
I know.
It's, it's what they, there's something that they give to every generation.
And we became the like, yeah, sex, it's whatever.
It's a woman's body, my body, my choice.
I mean, that was the poison that was taught to us.
And that I've kind of reversed that with the exception that I don't, now I'm also not the person that goes around and a woman got an abortion and calls her a baby killer or believe it.
I don't believe that's helpful dialogue.
I believe that everyone can be educated and you can decide to become educated later about something like I did without being vicious towards people that have made different decisions in their life with the information that they had available at that time.
Now, in terms of the police, because there does seem to be an issue here with the police and the black community, this is from what I've casually observed.
How would you address this issue?
Yeah.
As somebody that we make Candace Owens president tomorrow, what do we do?
Do we demilitarize the police?
Do we de-incentivize?
No, we don't.
Well, isn't there a way to demilitarize them?
Because I'm not saying defund them, but do we need for the police to be like stormtroopers running around the country, kicking down doors because somebody might be smoking a joint?
There's got to be a way to rein the police in a little bit, no?
Let's be clear.
The police are not kicking down your door because you're smoking a joint.
Okay.
So that is like, that's like, that's like leftism fantasy land.
Like, I'm just smoking a joint and the police officer just kicked down the door.
And because they're just like military right now, like, come on, that's ridiculous.
Like, maybe you're a drug dealer and you happen to be smoking a joint and the police came at that moment.
But let's be, let's be real about that.
Secondly, I have this crazy.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
I'm just smoking a joint, man.
You just came in here.
Guns away, man.
But what I will say, I'm a big believer in teaching your kids to respect police officers.
So if somebody can point to me to the case this year where the person who we saw being, you know, aggressively pursued by the police was listening to the police officers' instructions, then I would say, okay, maybe we do have an issue with police officers.
Every single case that is brought to the public forefront, the thing that never gets discussed is why couldn't this person listen to police orders?
And I mean, we're not talking about like the police snapped on the, I'm talking the police officer is saying 18, 20, 30 times, giving them an instruction and they don't do it.
And they keep coming towards the police officer.
A police officer's life needs to be protected too.
And these people are crazy.
What we saw in Philadelphia with that guy, Walter Wallace, wielding a knife.
I mean, and still Black Lives Matter protested and rioted and looted because he was shot and killed, as he should have been shot and killed because he tried to kill police officers.
The problem is that we have arrived suddenly into a society where people do not believe that they have to respect adults, period.
And this is what happens when you have an entire generation of people who have grown up without fathers in the hold.
You know, the idea of listening to any type of authority feels to them to be like an assault.
Why should I have to listen to a police officer?
Why should I have to listen to my teacher?
Why should I have to listen to my guidance counselor?
We have an authority issue in this country in terms of having basic respect.
And it's not a hard request.
When a police officer pulls you over, I've been pulled over.
I listen to his instructions.
That's the first thing.
Right now, you have parents teaching people you don't have to listen to police officers' instructions if you are black.
But when we look at this is going to lead to more black death.
When we look at a lot of these videos, we see incidences where police seem to be using excessive force, right?
Now, the most extreme example is George Floyd, who lost his life.
But then there's other examples where we look at the videos and we go, wait a minute, what in God's name is happening?
Why are the cops doing this?
Why are they sitting on a guy?
Why are they cutting off his airway?
Like, can't, shouldn't cops be trained to basically get someone in cops and then put them in a police car and not use a lot of these techniques that they're using, whether it's a chokehold or something where you can do serious damage to somebody.
Wouldn't that be good to kind of do more training?
I mean, more training is not a bad idea, right?
For the police?
I'm just saying, when has a cop done a chokehold on somebody without asking them to first abide by basic instructions?
And let's use George Floyd as an example because they refused to release the full tape in its entirety until it leaked to Daily Mail, you know, some eight months after the riots had stopped, right?
He was asked to get in the vehicle.
He was already in cops and was asked to get in the vehicle.
He resisted getting in the vehicle as he was standing.
It was already copped, said he was claustrophobic and didn't want to get in the vehicle and asked to be put on the ground, right?
This is after they had gotten him from a car.
So we knew he wasn't claustrophobic when he was in the car trying to get rid of his fentanyl, right?
Then they try to put him in the police cruiser and he starts saying, I can't get in there.
I'm claustrophobic, saying I can't breathe as he's standing up, right?
So once again, we have a situation where we're so keen to say what police officers could have done differently.
What can human beings, you know, people that are not police officers do?
Follow basic instructions.
Well, we got to imagine that the chokehold.
Right.
But that's not.
The job of a cop is you're dealing with people when they're not at their best, right?
Now, I have people that I know that are cops that tell me our job is we're already, if we're at a situation, you're already dealing with somebody that's not at their best.
They might be drunk.
They might be on drugs.
They're basically, this is not the best moment of their day.
And I just think that it can't be like, hey, abide by me or the immediate next step is chokehold.
There does have to be some value in de-escalation training or we cannot stand on someone's head.
I'm sure you agree with the George Floyd.
You know that.
Like what they did to George Floyd was murder.
It was crazy.
I mean, I agree with that.
And I've said that over and over again that it didn't have to end in that situation, even though I do feel it's important to point out that George Floyd, by his, you know, according to his death record, he did not die from a chokehold.
He died from a fentanyl overdose.
I'm sure the chokehold didn't help.
I'm sure it didn't help, but he was not restrained in a way that stopped his breathing.
No, no, that's a media misrepresentation that should be clarified.
But regardless, I don't think a police officer should be on anybody's neck for nine for nine minutes.
And so I will agree with you on that assessment.
But what I also am disagreeing with you on is the idea that this is the standard across police officers.
You know what I mean?
I mean, millions and millions of arrests every single year.
And we're talking about 20 of them that go wrong.
All right.
And nine black men where the situation went wrong this year down from when Obama was in office.
So we're hyper focusing on an issue.
Nine arrests that went wrong in all of 2019, despite 2020, despite all of these arrests.
And why are we doing that?
Human beings are not perfectible.
So you're never going to be able to beat that amazing number of nine going wrong.
Right.
But and this is the reason why we know the names of every single black person that has ended in an unfortunate circumstance with police officers because it doesn't happen often.
So we're able to know every single one of their names.
And, you know, again, I believe in pro-source responsibility and accountability.
I think police officers are treated horribly more often than the other way around.
And the data and statistics back up my point.
Police officers are killed by black men 18 and a half times more than black men are killed by police officers.
So now you're putting the honest on police officers to be even nicer, even though they're 18 and a half times more likely to end up dead than the other way around.
No, it doesn't.
It's a dangerous job.
It's a dangerous job.
And it's one of those jobs where I think like a nurse, like I joke around about nurses now that are yelling and screaming on Facebook about how tough their job is.
I get it.
It's a tough job.
But when you were a nurse, you also signed up for the idea that sick people were going to come into hospitals.
This is part of what you signed up for.
So I just feel like with cops, like they signed up for a job that was potentially deadly.
It was very dangerous.
And they are not the ones complaining and protesting.
Right.
All right.
But listen, sometimes they complain when you do, when you ask them to, you know, potentially, you know, you know, like take a look at their behavior or their culpability.
I've heard cops just like reject it out of hand, but I've heard other really smart people go that are police go, listen, there should be more de-escalation training, right?
There should be more training.
Cops should be able to use other tools other than a physical hold immediately or a chokehold or something like that.
There should be more psychological training.
That immediately.
I hate when people say that because they don't do that immediately.
That is not an instinct of a cop.
It has not been the instinct in any of the police videos we've seen even this year to assess.
It always escalates that situation after a long period of peace.
Again, the George Floyd video was not nine minutes.
They were dealing with him for almost 30 minutes, you know, trying to get him to get out of the car.
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Sir, can you please come out of the car?
So, you know, it's so easy to be perfect in the retrospect and say, here's 18,000 different things you could have done.
But when you're dealing with a violent criminal, especially big violent criminals, George Floyd was huge, right?
Right.
Who can hurt you?
The Raysard, Rayshard Jackson Rayshard Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta.
They were so nice to him.
Sir, can you please get out of the vehicle?
You're sleeping at a Wendy's, blah, blah, blah.
Nice.
Can you turn around?
We're just going to cuff you all the stuff.
Yes, you're right about that.
Police officers.
Oh, so let's look back at a tape though, Tim, and go, well, here's how they could have de-escalated.
I mean, I did feel that guy was asleep in a Wendy's.
That guy was asleep in a Wendy's drive-through.
Yeah, that guy was asleep in a Wendy's drive-thru, and I've been there.
But when you're woken up, you just have to have the cops go.
You just have to leave.
I've been asleep in a Wendy's drive-through.
So going forward, on a positive note, does Candace Owens ever run for office?
Oh, this is the first time I've gotten this question.
No, you get it all the time.
I do.
I do.
Listen, I do not have any plans to run for office at this moment.
What an answer.
You know, everybody, people are saying Candace 2024.
I've seen that on Twitter.
Maybe.
About that, maybe.
Maybe you'll reverb.
Any part, well, by the way, I want to, you are really, what amazes me about you is you have a great sense of humor.
You're always willing to have a discussion.
You're a fan of good comedy.
I think that the world would be a better place if more people had your attitude.
Not all of your attitudes, but the one about open dialogue and open discussion.
And I want to congratulate you on being a mother.
Thank you.
Are you excited about that?
T minus six weeks.
I will be a mom.
Are you going to be softer when the baby comes out?
Does Candace Owens go a little softer when she's a mom?
You know, I think that the idea that Candace Owens is super hard now is more of a media caricature.
I'm actually quite nice, very funny.
It's the number one thing people say about me when they meet me in person is they're surprised how much of a sense of humor I have.
And it's because the media has built me up as this like, oh, you know, person, like 300 style all the time.
So, yeah.
Do people recognize you and are they friendly for the most part?
Yes, people recognize me everywhere I go.
And yeah, they're always friendly because leftists, unless they are, you know, planning to be in a group of 300 Antifa supporters are fundamentally cowards.
So if they see me and they don't like me, they shut up.
You know, you're not going to approach Candace Owens and be like, I think that's going to go well for you.
I don't give off the energy that I'm going to be one of those like, oh, please leave me alone.
You know, I'm like not playing this game.
I'm not like, I'm not afraid of a little Antifa thug in an airport, you know?
Yeah.
I didn't even mean that.
I just meant you go out to dinner in DC.
Is the people, the political establishment, are they kind of like, hey, Candace is a potential ally?
Do you ever like, don't, you don't have to say who.
Are there ever people behind the scenes that talk to you that are, because you have a very big platform, you have a very, you know, big reach.
Is there anybody that's like, hey, we got to get Candace on our side?
Well, no, I will say there are a lot of celebrities, A-list celebrities that I speak to regularly.
And I think it would shock people.
You know, Kanye's probably the only one that's been out public about his beliefs.
What has shocked me because I live in Los Angeles and I know there's a lot of people that, you know, watch what you say and read what you write.
And some of them have big Instagram accounts so they can follow me and follow conservatives.
Some of them don't agree with you.
Some of them do agree with you, but they find what you say very interesting.
Right.
Yeah.
I think, and I think that that's kind of why I'm here is just because there's just been such a dogmatic approach to culture and to politics.
And I just want people to think.
And I also want to make it okay to be normal.
Like suddenly normal people have to shut up all of a sudden.
Like it's like unless you've got some something going on.
So I'm just like, listen, I'm a happy person.
And it's like a lot of these people that are trying to be not normal are actually trying.
Like they're not artistic.
They're not, they're not like a genuine where you'd be like, oh my God, that person's a freak of nature.
They're amazing.
It's like someone who's truly trying to exist outside of this spectrum for no reason other than the fact that they don't have much going on.
I mean, I know a lot of people that were like, okay, you have purple hair and whatever.
It's supposed to be non-binary.
But let's be honest, you just work at Geico.
Like there's nothing wrong with it.
You're just answering claims at Geico or you're at Oberlin.
They're just at Oberlin College and they're like, I want to be interesting, special, and different.
Yeah.
Everybody wants to be a special little snowflake.
And I get that.
I mean, you see that, of course, you see that in Hollywood so much too, where it's like, they're complicated for no reason.
That's what I mean.
It's like, why did Harry Styles put on a dress?
Because like, there's nothing really wrong with Harry Styles, right?
He's very talented.
He's good looking.
He's a great singer.
So it's like, how can I just be controversial and put myself in some weird minority box?
I'm going to be a man that wears a dress.
Like, okay, we get it.
You know, you know, like Miley Cyrus.
There's nothing wrong with you.
Grew up with money.
Dad's famous.
I'm going to shave my head and say that I sometimes feel like a man to woman.
Okay, we get it.
You want to be a special little snowflake, right?
But like, there's nothing wrong with you.
Like, you know, and so I poke fun at them and it drives them crazy because they're trying so hard to be different.
And it's just like, dude, just be freaking normal.
It's fine.
Like people will like you either way.
You don't have to try to be so subversive all the time.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, the answer is if you want to be different, you want to be special, be Tim Dylan, be Candace Owens.
That's all.
Tell everyone where to follow you if they don't already.
And they probably do.
Follow me on the internet.
Okay.
Buy my book, Blackout.
Yeah, Blackout is out.
The book is out.
Blackout.
Buy that.
The Blexit movement.
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Are you doing any more live events?
Yes, as soon as we can figure out what state is allowed to have human beings in a capacity where they're allowed to be next to each other.
We're moving to Nashville.
Are you moving in that?
So you're going to move.
I am.
I'm moving to Nashville.
I just did Zaney's, the comedy club in Nashville, and it was great.
I did seven shows there.
I saw that you were there that night.
So that was the first, that's when I bought my house that night.
Yeah, I was there, and it was a great time, and it's a great city, and I think you're going to love it.
Yeah, I think so, too.
I'm thinking one more year in LA and then I might get out of here.
I might go to Texas.
I don't know where I'm going to go, but it's just getting the amount of money we pay in taxes versus what you get.
Yeah, it's stupid.
Like prison.
It's just stupid.
I'm like, why are you, why do you live there?
I say to people, I'm like, what are you doing there anymore?
Well, eventually they're going to build walls to keep you guys in because, I mean, everyone's fleeing.
Well, Candace Owens, and you're still holding on.
Last question.
You're still holding on.
You think you believe there's a chance Trump gets inaugurated again?
I mean, what a, that would be wild.
Candace, that would be wild.
I think it's going to the Supreme Court.
So, I mean, but I've always thought that I didn't adjust my opinion after this.
No, you didn't.
You've been remarkably consistent the whole time.
I will say that.
This is where you do kind of win an award.
You have been like consistent the entire year about what you thought was going to happen and where it would go.
Yeah, exactly.
And we're here now.
So I'm just like, you know, I think it's going to go to the Supreme Court and we have the courts.
And by the way, if he wins, there's going to be a civil war.
So hope everyone's pro 2A because this is not going to be, it's going to be an issue in this country because they all actually believe that Joe Biden's already the president-elect.
He's not.
You know, it's just Trump hasn't conceded.
And so we'll see what happens.
I, you know, I obviously, for the sake of the country and us not getting swallowed by China's Belt and Road initiative, I hope that Trump wins.
I hope I pray that Trump wins.
Well, if there's a civil war, hide that ring.
That's a real rock over there.
Put that in a vault if there's a civil war.
I mean, that thing is, that is crazy.
You've done well.
You've done well.
And I appreciate that.
And if and if things take a turn for the worse, you can always go to your cousin Mia and she can sling that in the projects.