The Tim Dillon Show - 178: 178 - Secret Society

Dec. 15, 2019 - The Tim Dillon Show

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178: 178 - Secret Society

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Trash Can Intro 00:14:50
	Hi, I'm Timmy the Trash Can, and I love trash.
	Popcorn boxes, pops, and candy wrappers.
	Mmm, they all taste so good.
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	Welcome to the Tim Dylan show, everybody.
	We are resuming regular video in 2020.
	I don't know how many times we have to say that.
	We know that everybody gets very angry.
	Video is coming back regularly every week in 2020.
	People are gonna beat their meat.
	People gotta fucking beat their meat.
	We get it.
	It's too windy to shoot outside and too cold in California.
	So, what we're doing is we're gonna get a studio.
	We're looking at a few.
	We're gonna have one 2020.
	It's great.
	Do you think you have a not everyone worrying for most people?
	But do you think you have a few people who look some people might be attracted to you and jerk off you for that reason?
	But I'm saying more like they like what you're saying and they're just getting into a frenzy, jerking off too, not sexually you, but just a feeling you're evoking.
	I would say that a fair amount of people listening to the show are such degenerates and so lazy that they just do two things at once and they just jerk off and listen to the show.
	And it's like one has nothing to do with the other.
	Yeah, I imagine a lot of people that listen to the show just spend a lot of their life in one position.
	I think I probably jerked off listening to ONA, but watching porn, but having no way.
	Right, it's just you got done things like that where you're like, I'm not jerking off to what's going on, but it's just time to get it out.
	Yeah, they're gonna ban people are talking about banning porn.
	What?
	There's a discussion.
	Who's talking about that?
	Somebody on Twitter.
	Nobody really.
	That's the thing.
	You would think, like, there's no money in porn, right?
	Like, someone's making money, but there's got to be something.
	It's a billion.
	Is it still a billion?
	They always say it's a billion-dollar industry.
	Is that true when you mean it?
	I don't know.
	I know a lot of it's free.
	You know, the big stores, they have their version of Patreon, their webcam shit.
	Yeah.
	And like, you know, and you get a pair of their panties or whatever.
	It's all soiled.
	It's nice.
	But like.
	How do you know that?
	From an article you've read?
	We had Wendy on years ago.
	Okay.
	Is that it?
	That's all from just that episode.
	I've never paid.
	I paid for porn a couple times.
	Right.
	I've never paid for like a garment or interaction even with you.
	Interesting.
	I would love to pay for you to have an interaction only to watch it start.
	Only for you to be like, hello?
	I think I could pull.
	Ho.
	I think it would be amazing.
	I mean, I'm very happy with Lucy.
	Are you judgment?
	But I think it would be interesting.
	I think she'd be behind it 100%.
	Yeah.
	For to get me to try to pull a webcam girl.
	What do you mean, pull a webcam?
	Like, actually, like, date her.
	Date a webcam girl.
	Start out paying.
	First of all, it goes without saying.
	Start out paying.
	But then, then, like, woo her.
	But, you know, so a lot of people, a lot of people start out.
	That is the fantasy.
	Right.
	Like they're about.
	Not the whores I was seeing back in the day with processes.
	Good ones.
	Yeah.
	Is that like, because they make you think that like you kind of like it, right?
	They kind of like it.
	You think that one day she's just going to look at you and go, hey, put the money away.
	Hey, put that money away.
	I just want you.
	There was some documentary I was watching about a guy who has just been paying this webcam girl.
	If you know what it is, you can tweet me or whatever, DM me.
	I forget what it was, but he was paying her for like years, a lot of money.
	And then she went and spent a weekend with him, and it was fucking weird for both of them.
	She was like, this is weird, and I don't, because they were so used to that digital relationship.
	She even, I think, maybe wanted to try to give it a go.
	Well, he's like, how's school going?
	Oh, you know, my professor is like, well, I went, but he's probably like, you know, I went to college and this and that.
	And they had something in common, maybe.
	Yeah.
	Or whatever.
	Like, and it's just like, yeah, but that's different than like, I mean, look, look, you go on Tinder.
	You go on, I don't know if there are gay Tinder is just Grinder.
	There's all kinds of matters different.
	The point is, you go on these dating apps and like you strike up a rapport, but like a fraction of those actually work well in the date.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, right.
	It's much easier.
	The barrier to entry is so much lower when you're just online.
	Right.
	And the idea that something could work.
	And then when you're with somebody and you're in their physical presence, it's much harder, especially for a prolonged period of time.
	Yeah.
	It's one thing.
	A weekend is a long period of time.
	Oh, that's insane.
	That's absurd.
	Right.
	So it's like you could go out to dinner, get hammered, but a fucking weekend.
	He should have played it like, hey, I'm going to be in town for the weekend.
	Maybe we'll get dinner.
	Not we'll go have a weekend together.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, why?
	But like, see if you can get something going.
	But the pressure for a weekend, that's crazy.
	Yeah, but that, so that's interesting.
	I had a girl effectively do that after like a first date, but then she got made because I wouldn't buy her groceries.
	When was this?
	Years ago.
	But basically, I think she was trying to like, I don't think she had a good living situation.
	Oh, I'm certain she didn't.
	I would imagine she had a very sad living situation.
	She was sleeping in my bed with me, but she didn't want to have sex yet.
	Okay.
	She said she was on her period, which is all right.
	But then, but eventually she let me jerk off like next to her.
	And this was one night?
	Well, it was like a night that turned into a few nights.
	Oh, so she just really wanted a place to stay.
	I think so.
	And the furthest you got was jerking off next to her.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's romantic.
	And did she, how was she, when you were jerking off next to her, was she laying down?
	Was she fainting?
	She was laying down next to me.
	Was she looking at you?
	She was like in, yeah, she was engaged.
	Okay.
	Was she fully clothed?
	No, she had her top off.
	Okay.
	And no touching.
	I could touch.
	I could tell.
	Like her kits.
	I mean, that was fair game.
	This was what, night three?
	Did you live there for six months?
	No, I ended it quick because she was a liar.
	And hold the phone.
	Yeah.
	This woman was being dishonest, Raymond.
	She had a very dishonest vibe.
	She looked at you and she said, I'm going to get over on him.
	Right.
	And I felt that right away.
	Yeah.
	It felt sketchy right away.
	And it was the kind of thing.
	It was like.
	How does it feel sketchy right away?
	How do you meet her on Tinder?
	I think we met on Tinder and she's like, we were having rapport back and forth.
	We actually got dirty right away.
	I think she must have initiated because I wasn't the guy to go, hey, you want to see my dick?
	Right.
	But, you know, we were sending dick pics and stuff back and forth.
	And then she's like, I think it was at school at the time or whatever.
	And we basically met up at Applebee's.
	And yeah, I guess we were striking.
	It wasn't the best date, but she's like, you want to go watch a movie at your place?
	And I'm like, sure, which is odd.
	I mean, for the first date, which is like, we met for like half-price apps kind of thing.
	It wasn't like we didn't have like a two and a half hour show.
	She was wowed by the half-price apps.
	Right.
	I'm saying she initiated the movie at your place.
	I knew it was like, this seems quick.
	Right.
	I was like, but you know, this is the time when I was running and I was, you know, five miles a day and I was like in better shape.
	So, you know, maybe she just wants some pipe.
	Right.
	Maybe not.
	I mean, I could fuck.
	I still can fuck.
	But I'm saying, like, I was, you know, it's possible.
	I'm not a bad looking guy in that moment.
	Yeah.
	And, but it raised a flag.
	And then we get back to my place.
	We watch, I think that's Joan Rivers dock.
	Oh, that piece of work.
	Yeah.
	Comedy dock.
	Yeah.
	And then we ended up, she's like, we ended up like, she slept on.
	I remember her wanting to go to your home is a red flag.
	Well, like that raised a flag.
	Well, it was just very quick.
	It wasn't like we, right?
	Here's the thing.
	Usually in my experience, maybe if you have a great jawline, a great body, it's a little more quick.
	But it's like, you know, you're hanging out, you're building rapport.
	You know, usually we're drinking, but not like no one's getting super drunk.
	We're drinking and you have that kind of usually a few hours goes by.
	You're hanging out.
	A van pulls up.
	You got a few people in there.
	You put her in there.
	It's a practical joke.
	You explain to her that it's a joke.
	Everything that's happening is a joke.
	And then she's going to be okay.
	And it's okay.
	And you're just saying, these are your friends and they help you move.
	And you got a moving business on the side.
	And then you put her in the van and then you explain to her that it's for her own good that you've restrained her because people could get hysterical and she can hurt herself.
	You just don't want her to hurt herself.
	So I understand that your usual process, notwithstanding.
	It usually is a little more of like, you know, you're a tug of war, literally.
	It's a tug of war.
	No, it's just, you're having a good time.
	You're vibing.
	I can't.
	I understand.
	And it really wasn't that much vibe.
	When I talk to somebody online and they're too, you know, too eager, I'm like, oh, you're just trying to fucking, you want me to send you my bank account info.
	Right.
	And so, exactly.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, but she ended up like crashing in my bed.
	And we like, you know, I think I spooned her.
	She probably took her top off, whatever.
	We didn't fuck.
	That's fine.
	Like, whatever.
	I mean, it was quick anyway.
	It was soon anyway.
	Right.
	And then I think she left in the morning.
	And then she, like, the next day, like, you know, supposedly went to school to work or whatever.
	She's like, oh, you want to hang out?
	I was like, all right.
	And she came over to my place and she was like, oh, you want to just, like, I don't have anything to eat.
	Like, oh, you want to go to super.
	We can go to the supermarket.
	I'm like, all right.
	So like, we started picking a few things up to make like, you know, salad.
	And then she, like, at one point grabs this really expensive salad?
	Well, I think she wanted a salad.
	Okay.
	But, like, she bought this really, she was buying this really expensive like dressing.
	Okay.
	It's like yogurt-based dressing.
	And she's like, picking certain things out.
	You say.
	And then that's when you knew.
	Well, at that point, we got to the checkout and I basically, I forget exactly how I signaled it, but I was like, should I go off separate?
	Yeah, separate.
	Yeah.
	And she, yeah.
	Because I can see she was like, she thought I was going to buy everything and she's just picking out her groceries.
	This is a real moment in this relationship.
	Right.
	You are walking around a grocery store with her.
	And this is what, where is this?
	It would have been like Holbrook area.
	So you're, it's a stop and shop or I think it's a stop and shop.
	Yeah.
	So you're at stop and shop with her.
	Yeah.
	She starts padding the wagon with high-end items.
	Right.
	And then you get, now there's no discussion as to who will pay.
	Right.
	And yeah.
	Does it seem like she's it's for more than just one night?
	Uh, it seems like she's gonna take this in my head.
	Is she gonna take this shit home with her?
	Now, maybe, now, but was it more like would it have just been for one night?
	Look, maybe.
	I wasn't making a ton of money back then.
	Maybe not now.
	You were being really careful.
	I was being careful because it seemed, it just seemed like a weird move.
	It seemed like.
	So let me explain.
	Yeah.
	When you're at the cash register and you say separate, how do you decide who's buying what?
	Because you're just, you have one.
	Well, I think I picked out certain things.
	That's the thing.
	She didn't go, hey, this would be really good.
	You want to get this?
	It'd be like, she started picking things out.
	Right.
	And like, didn't discuss it.
	I was like, this is.
	I think I was.
	Day two.
	Yeah.
	And I think I was saying, oh, I can make this.
	I can make whatever it would be.
	I forget what I was cooking at the time.
	Maybe it was quesadillas or something.
	I don't know.
	I was going to make it.
	Chili Riña.
	I mean, this is your famous thing: Chili Riños.
	You tell everybody.
	I make chili riños.
	It's really good.
	Deviled eggs and chili riños.
	These are two things.
	I am a little bit of a chef.
	So, yeah.
	I mean, so basically, all these weird things that she was picking out and carrying.
	I live about it.
	And now, when you say separate.
	Oh, the vibe.
	You can see it.
	What is it?
	Jim, she, I mean, she didn't play her hand.
	Now she goes cold.
	You could see it went a little cold.
	But that's not what ruined it.
	I mean, that might have been the seed that ruined this.
	Interesting.
	But that didn't.
	Now, what ruins it?
	So days go by.
	Look, I mean, I take the IHOP then the next morning.
	And we're like, so we both get omelets, right?
	And then she orders crepes on the side.
	Now, again, I wasn't making a lot of money at the time.
	Now, let me ask you: you're ordering an omelet at IHOP because you're doing a high-protein thing.
	You don't decide you and her don't decide to split pancakes.
	It wasn't just we both got our own meals.
	Okay.
	And then she goes, I want to get crepes on the side.
	I'm like, okay, that's fine.
	Like, it was more to me.
	It was more like, oh, you know, it was racking up the price.
	But I didn't say that.
	It's like, I'm like, oh, that's fine.
	Look, she's cute.
	What are crepes?
	$3?
	Like $7 or $8.
	Here's the thing.
	I'm not going to begrudge it to her.
	I'd rather it doesn't rack up all these bills, but whatever.
	I'm not all these bills.
	Three days in.
	Younger base salad dressing, crepes.
	I'm just saying, here's the thing.
	She doesn't eat them.
	She doesn't eat them.
	Eat the crepes.
	She barely, she eats like maybe half her omelette at most.
	Right.
	She's about to take one bite of the crepe.
	What does she look like?
	What does this woman look like?
	That's just a thin woman.
	She's thin.
	A thin, blonde woman, attractive.
	A little older, probably getting into her mid-30s and like used to be like hotter.
	And now she's a thin blonde woman and she's in her mid-30s.
	Yeah.
	And does she look worn?
	No, no, she wasn't super worn, but she was, you know, but it was on the good side of almost worn.
	Right.
	She'd seen some maybe late nights.
	Well, she claimed she used to run a fashion line in the Hamptons.
	Yeah, there's a lot of people make a lot of claims.
	Exactly.
	There's a lot of everything.
	Everything's suspect.
	Everything, like, so everything.
	My point is, so look, she orders crepes, doesn't even eat them.
	And it's like, oh, what is that?
	Like that.
	It's like, there was a certain none of them.
	She doesn't even have a forkful.
	She might have one forkful, maybe.
	Okay.
	And to me, it just screamed, like, I want to see if you'll spend money.
	She's trying to see what kind of man you are at the IHOP.
	I guess so.
	She's trying to judge me by how much crepes I have.
	How do you handle the situation?
	I didn't say anything.
	I let it go.
	But it's like, it's in the head.
	It's in my head there.
	Okay.
	And then I'm fucking, then we go with Starbucks and she gets her coffee and we go and whatever.
	So she paid the bill at IHOP.
	Paid the bill.
	And then we come back to my place.
	She leaves for the night.
	I think this was like a Thursday or a Friday.
	We make plans.
	I had a photography shoot in like, you know, Huntington, somewhere up north in Long Island.
	That Saturday.
	We were supposed to hang out.
	And we're supposed to hang out Sunday.
	That's our plan.
	We're going to hang out Sunday because I'm busy on Saturday.
	So it's probably a Friday L S R.
Zucchini Fries Fight 00:02:26
	And so I guess she'd been texting me.
	We talked about this before.
	North Shore Long Island, we went there.
	No, there's a sell signal.
	You can't get a fucking sell signal.
	Not for us, not for Sprint.
	No, not for slaves, like us.
	Slots.
	So I'm out there.
	I'm shooting whatever, a Sweet 16 or whatever the fuck, a wedding.
	And I guess she'd be like, I basically get when I get out of there, I get all these voicemails from her, like just cursing at me, calling me a fucking piece of shit for not like, we made plans.
	And I have to call her back, like, babe, you know, not babe, whatever.
	It was, you know, the sweetie pie.
	Tweeter pie.
	Twitter pie.
	You know, it's all good.
	We're going to be fine.
	I was just like, I had no reception, but kind of aggressive.
	You know, she's kind of an aggressive person.
	We end up going to a Greek restaurant that I like on Sunday.
	And she starts ordering zucchini fries and not eating them again.
	And telling me about this business she used to run.
	And that's when you broke her nose.
	I mean, that's when I got into the thing of like, I started like second-guessing the business stuff.
	Like, why would how did this fall apart?
	What happened?
	Oh, because she pushed with the zucchini fries and you decided to call her out for being a fraud.
	Yeah.
	And then she wanted to go, she wanted to go to LaserTag, I think.
	How old was she?
	36.
	And she wanted to go to LaserTag?
	Yeah.
	She wanted, at one point, I was like, why do we have to go out?
	I mean, Long Island should sink.
	Yeah.
	Because she was like, she kept telling, look, I want someone to date me.
	And like, what does that mean?
	Like, we have to do things, activities.
	And so, yeah.
	So she starts, we have a big, you know, screaming match in the car because I was basically calling her out.
	I started calling her out about her how I think you're a fraudulent fashion designer.
	I don't think you had a business.
	And you ordered these fries.
	What is she firing back at you?
	She's saying, you fat piece of shit.
	Yeah.
	You know, this and that.
	You cheap fuck.
	Like, why are you ordering zucchini fries?
	Why are you ordering these fucking fries?
	It seems like you've been married for 10 years and it's day three.
	Yeah.
	What a hell.
	And I didn't come see you because I wanted zucchini fries.
	Like, well, why'd you order them?
	Like, yeah, yeah, I'm not made of money.
	Right.
	And yeah, so we basically got back to my place and she left.
	And she sat in front of my car, my house for like two hours.
Fraudulent Fashion Designer 00:02:12
	And I came out at one point, like, what are you doing?
	You have to leave.
	Yeah.
	And she's like, I'm on the phone with my mother, like, crying.
	And I'm like, all right.
	And then.
	Do you think she told her mother she thought like she thought you were the one?
	She thought you were a good man.
	I mean, I'll be honest.
	Do you think like she got on the phone with her mother and she was like, Mommy, I've met a boy.
	I've met a man named Raymond.
	And then she had to call her mother up crying and go, he wouldn't let me or eat zucchini fries.
	Well, she was telling me how she fucking, like, I must have been like, she'd been telling me the whole time how like her living situation was kind of weird.
	She was staying in some room and she was going back to school at Suffolk or whatever the fuck.
	Right.
	And like the landlord was shitty.
	And like, you know, it felt like a scam.
	In hindsight, it's like, maybe I was badly, as I'm saying it, like, maybe I was being a little cheap.
	Right.
	Maybe being a little bit of skin flame.
	You know, but like, but I think the vibe was got to protect yourself.
	I don't like being like, I'd rather not get laid than be used.
	And that's where we get back to porn.
	Yeah.
	As negative as porn can be and how it can lead to alienation, is it any worse than what happened with you and that woman?
	Would you both have been better staying at home and having the cyber experience?
	I was really good at driving off the porn at that point.
	I was really like, I had great loads.
	I knew how to just charge it up, like just kind of stretch it out.
	I think there's got to be a happy medium between people saying we should have the government enforced morality and recognizing that, yeah, ODing on porn is not good.
	Except I use it too much.
	The excessive consumption of pornography has negative effects.
	It's also like it is like, I mean, here's the thing.
	I probably watched too much porn for years.
	And they say, like, oh, it fucks you up.
	You can't get stimulated.
	I'm in a healthy, loving relationship.
	It's very sexual.
	We're very sexual.
	Right.
	So I don't know if the long-term effects are as bad as they make them out to be.
	Right.
	But it isn't the best way to live.
	One of the guys that I used to watch on porn went to Iraq and had his legs blown off.
	Did he start doing porn again?
	I don't know.
	No, but I mean, it's just an interesting way.
	It's an interesting life story.
	Sure.
	Was it?
	Was he not?
	Was he on like amateur porn?
Drag Queen Agenda 00:09:59
	No, he's a website.
	He was like official dude.
	And he went to Iraq to be a soldier?
	He was a soldier.
	I mean, and then he just, you know, he lost his legs in the war.
	So, I mean, this, you know, I don't know.
	I mean, support the troops, but not, you know.
	I mean, so the idea.
	Did you ever pay him?
	No.
	I mean, I didn't, I'm paying for that stuff.
	I'm not stupid enough to fall for that.
	I don't mean pay.
	I meant more like pay, like, I like at one point.
	Paywall.
	I subscribe to like Bang, the Bang Brothers version.
	Because, like, look, now it's a little easier because it's not like I've never watched porn.
	Now I watch, but no, no one year as much.
	But like, you can get full-length, like, high-quality stuff free.
	But like, back then, it was a little more like- You sound like a guy telling like his nephew at Christmas, listen, you can get full-length, high-quality stuff free.
	You don't need to spend any money.
	You don't know how good you kids have it.
	I just have to pay money.
	I was a subscriber to Bangba.
	You don't have to be a subscriber.
	Well, dang.
	I mean, like, at that point, it was a little more.
	I mean, if you're really savvy, sure, but it was a little more of a hassle to like, unless you wanted to watch a four-minute clip.
	I want to make a point.
	Even though I know it's fake, and I know it's like, you know, not actually, you know, a job interview, it turns into fucking, but I still like the story.
	I still like the fantasy or whatever.
	I think, you know, I was just performing in Bridgeport, Connecticut, and I think what's funny about some of these moral questions is they are luxury questions to debate.
	Just the idea of like, you know, people debating like, you know, what drag queen story hour at libraries or whatever, or, you know, which has inflamed people.
	Like, I mean, it's like, to me, I'm like, it's people in wacky costumes reading the kids.
	I don't, you know, it doesn't seem to be like a library.
	Yeah, it's like, that's the thing that every, but that's a new cultural issue that's like driving everyone insane is like drag queens reading to kids library.
	I'm not making a verdict here or whatever.
	Yeah.
	But doesn't it seem weird that like for all the appropriation talk and all that and like and the self-eating left kind of thing?
	Yeah.
	That like no one's like you would think the trans people would have gone after the drag queens by now and go, well, you know, and like there'll be no friction.
	I'm sure they will.
	I don't know.
	I tend to think that it's drag queens should not be reading to kids not because they're inherently degenerate, but just because it's fucking boring and like you should be doing other stuff that's funner and it also seems forced and weird.
	It seems forced and weird.
	Like it's like, why don't like have a dominatrix or have a like, which is there's nothing wrong with that either.
	Like there's nothing wrong with being a dominatrix.
	No, I mean, I don't know.
	It'd be weird if a dominatrix had a reading program in school.
	That'd be odd.
	The idea of a drag queen outside of the drag, because that's the thing about drag queens.
	They don't really live like that, right?
	They only go when they do drag.
	I think some of them don't.
	I think what bothers people about.
	But if you do live like that, aren't you basically trans now?
	Is that more the term?
	Because drag queens.
	It doesn't matter.
	Forget that.
	But my point about drag queens is like, it's a performance thing.
	And I get it.
	It's a tradition, whatever.
	Right, but you're taking it out of that realm, but you put it into a different realm.
	It's weird.
	Well, their realm is whatever they want it to be.
	I mean, they host shows on television.
	It's not just.
	It's about dragging, yeah, but it's not just a nightclub.
	I mean, I think drag queens are people that exist in the world.
	Like anyway.
	Now, yeah, a lot of them do not choose to live their whole life in drag, but the drag economy is huge.
	I mean, people are into it and people go to the show.
	I mean, the shows do very well.
	There's a lot of what I've been doing.
	Well, yeah, I mean, it's supposed to used to be very funny.
	You know, I said on the Shane Gillows episode that, like, now what's funny is like they're making drag queens into moralists, which I think is insane.
	But the idea is that it's sexualizing this drag queen story hour sexualizes kids.
	I don't know if it does or not.
	I will say this.
	It seems like it is forced.
	Yeah.
	It does seem like there's an agenda, and it does seem like I will say that drag isn't inherently sexual.
	It's more, to me, it seems like more of like costumes.
	Like, does anyone want to fuck a drag queen?
	I don't know.
	Some people, yeah.
	Maybe.
	But no, but I totally.
	To me, it's not a sexual thing.
	It's like a goofy.
	Of course.
	And that's the problem.
	If you don't go so far as going, you're sexualizing children, because then you have to like the legitimate world that we're not.
	But the real thing is more like, I don't want to explain this to my five-year-old kid.
	It's just complicated.
	It's more like it's complicated and annoying.
	It's not because I think there's anything wrong with you.
	Yeah.
	But maybe you should.
	But it's also like, it's just they'll figure it out in time, but it's a little young to even like.
	Yeah, I'm not a guy that has a strong opinion either way, other than it does seem forced to me.
	It seems weird.
	I've been heavily critical of the idea that young pre-pubescent or even pubescent children should transition with the help of doctors and take hormones.
	I've said that that is, I think, tantamount to child abuse in the sense that you're taking a very young child and enabling them to make decisions that will affect the rest of their lives.
	They may not want those.
	Now that we have a more permissible social structure, yeah, they can study it for like 15 years and see how it turns.
	Because maybe 15 years ago, look, it really is, we can really say that 99% of these people never change their mind and go, maybe they should be allowed to.
	But it really is kind of like, it seems at this point, jumping the gun to be a game.
	It's jumping the gun.
	And I also think that a lot of the people that supposedly would have, a lot of the people that don't transition turn out to just be gay.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Now, I am, so I have always said that I don't think giving hormones to children, I think that's wrong.
	And I, you know, the, the, you know, but again, if the kid wants to dress up like a girl, fine.
	I don't care what, you know, Lizzy, if you're a parent and, you know, I don't think stifling your child's expression is the right way to go.
	I think that only will make things more difficult later on in their life.
	I just don't think that you should be giving them hormones.
	Here's the thing.
	It's like, look, should we have started to make this more acceptable years ago?
	Sure.
	But that being said, we haven't.
	And like, let's not just rush to like, same thing with the whole trans in fighting and sports.
	It's like, yeah, maybe eventually we can figure this out.
	Maybe when they transition to earlier people, they will have the same level of testosterone.
	It won't be as uneven.
	But give it time.
	And for now, it's like, maybe, yeah, maybe some people just get screwed over and can't do MMA professionals.
	Too much right now doesn't make sense.
	And I think the problem is you're seeing a real backlash against gay people and trans people because you have a very politically active wing of whatever you want to call the LGBT community that is redefining so many things at once.
	Gender, biology, who can play what sports and compete against who.
	It's really this much change at this pace.
	People are becoming very uncomfortable with it.
	And the whole thing is they're like, you know, what's interesting is a lot of the dudes that I meet or I'll talk to and go out with are guys that either are not out of the closet or they're just they're out to a few people, but they're not public, that public about it.
	Some of it is because maybe there's more fluidity and sexuality, but I think some of it is like they're like, well, I don't want to make this my whole identity because I don't, I don't, then I'm forced to be in this position where I have to co-sign.
	Right.
	All of these other things that I don't agree with that are being shoved down everybody's throat.
	Well, it's like the women thing or the women in media kind of thing.
	Yeah, because, like, look, you had Ridley and Alien, you had me, George Rich and Fifth W. You have a certain amount of like female, like, you know, protagonists.
	Oh, Sarah Connor and Terminator.
	I love how this will have nothing to do with the conversation.
	No, but you know how it is.
	No, you're not me, La Jovi.
	People like that.
	People aren't against it, but it's when you start like, when you start to try to do, we're going to, we're going to make Lady Ghostbusters.
	We're going to make, you know, the four, like, Star Wars.
	It's really silly.
	Even some of this Avenger stuff is never good.
	Like, my point is, it's never the people who are making it their point to get this representation.
	First of all, they're not regular people.
	They're people in power who are like, they have an agenda.
	And what they force is never really reflected by, like, the women never seem to, when they really talk to them, don't seem to like it.
	I think it's probably, I can't speak for the gay community, but I think a lot of this stuff isn't representative of the gay community, like extremes.
	It's like, no, the stuff you force.
	Nobody wants this.
	Nobody, nobody.
	This is a small group of people who are pushing a lot of this stuff.
	They're not people you rarely bump into them.
	They're people that occupy positions of power and feel that pushing this narrative and this agenda is a way for them to solidify their power.
	That is what it comes down to.
	Sure.
	And there should be plenty more representation across the board, but it doesn't.
	I mean, it's shocking to me that there's not more athletes that have come out of the closet, that there are not more actors that have come out of the closet.
	And I know behind the scenes that there's a lot of people that identify as either gay or bisexual that are not coming out of the closet.
	One of the reasons is because I think there's such a politicized identity.
	There's a lot of gay people who just go, I just want to be a human being.
	And there's such a politicized identity to it now where they're like, well, wait a minute.
	Why am I now have to be for third trimester abortion?
Politicized Identity Crisis 00:04:47
	Right.
	I mean, look what they did to Kevin Spacey when he came out.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is a man who lived his life helping children make, you know, where, what, what do you think?
	It's a good, it's, it's an interesting question.
	I was by, I was in, so I was in Bridgeport.
	My point about these whole luck, these luxury things, I'm in Bridgeport.
	Bridgeport, Connecticut is a sacrifice zone.
	It is one in 43% chance of being a victim of property crime, one in 112 or something percent chance of being a victim of a violent crime.
	It's like an abandoned city.
	Does it seem like a like what you call a slum, or does it seem like a suburb is just rotting away?
	Whatever it's worse than a slum.
	It's the next step.
	It's basically you have an urban area, a city center that has been pretty much abandoned.
	All of the buildings, it says available everywhere.
	And then you see, you know, there's a couple of crackheads walking around, this that and the other thing, but it's desolate.
	Right.
	It's abandoned.
	And I was talking to my friend's father.
	My friend's father said that, you know, Sikorsky Helicopters is the biggest employer in that whole area of Connecticut.
	They employ like, I think they have one facility that employs 8,000 people, and then they have another facility that employs around 2,500.
	And then a lot of the feeder companies that make the parts for Sikorsky helicopters.
	And he said to me, he goes, listen, he goes, Bridgeport has been bad for 30 years because a lot of those factories moved down south.
	But he goes, the reality is if Sikorsky helicopter leaves, this entire area becomes like a little Detroit.
	He goes, we have massive problems.
	It's amazing to me how many areas are reliant on one or two corporations.
	And that if they go away or if they automate even half their jobs, you're looking at serious economic was like half of upstate, isn't it?
	Like, most of it is probably.
	Yeah.
	Because like probably Bridgeport was never anywhere as big as Detroit.
	Right.
	But like, but I think a lot happened to a lot of upstate, a lot of probably the Midwest too.
	Like, I mean, Detroit's remarkable just because how big it is and how widespread.
	But I think a lot of this country's already gone through a lot of those scenarios.
	100%.
	And that's when you start looking at like, wow, a lot of these, you know, whether we're talking about morality, which certainly, listen, those conversations have a place, but it's so funny to me that down the road, we might be like, oh, remember when things were good?
	Right.
	We were arguing about drag queens and reading in libraries.
	Well, it's crazy that the only candidate really talking about his gang.
	Yeah.
	And like he's a goofball.
	He's the only guy that seems to be like, guys, the problems are so deep.
	Yeah.
	And they're not necessarily given easily to political solutions.
	Right.
	And even his solution, it's like $1,000 a month.
	And it's like, oh, just might not even like, it's like, even we kind of know that's like, if he's right, that ain't going to work properly.
	It's probably not going to work.
	But what he is doing is he's at least saying, here's the problem.
	What they, it's this weird thing.
	I was talking about the Uber driver in a way here because we're talking about how bad Uber is doing.
	Like, how do they keep losing money?
	And I'm like, well, spending $400 million a quarter on RD.
	It's like, you know, and probably so they can make it like self-driving cars worse.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Where is that?
	Where is that 400 million going for research?
	What else could it be?
	I mean, researching, you know, what are they researching where people get drunk and need boobers?
	Yeah.
	You know, so it's like, and like at a certain point, and he's got in his 60s, and like, I'm the one saying, like, you know, he should be in my shoes.
	But I'm saying, like, at a certain point, you know me, like, I have a free market-ish kind of background.
	I'm not libertarian per se, but like, but I'm like, I'm saying, like, at a certain point, why can't you?
	I'm not good looking enough to be a Marxist or a fascist.
	Fair enough.
	That's the reality.
	But a certain point, like, why can't we just outlaw certain technology?
	If it's that this, if it's that disruptive to the public uh good, to the, to the general good, that like well because, talk truck drivers, like we're gonna, why not?
	Why are we gonna allow an entire industry of people who are the most vulnerable?
	Why can we not legislate progress or the pace of progress?
	That's pretty much your question.
	I mean look, it's not like we have a free market anyway, we don't we?
	The only time we err on the side of the free market is when we look within.
	So here's the arguments you're going to be used.
	They're going to say, if we legislate the pace of progress in one industry yeah, it could have unintended consequences in other industries, things like healthcare, where the, where i'm just telling you what the arguments are going to be.
	And they're going to say hey, if UBER can't automate their cars, then how are we going to get this vaccine to you when you need it?
	I mean, these are going to be, the response is, can you at least take your dick out of the kid before you say that?
	Right, what are we doing here?
Mocking Dark Arguments 00:09:06
	What is this?
	They'll be making that point on the, on a, on an altar.
	On an altar during a black mass.
	You know they take their mask off.
	They're like, here's the point, dummy.
	Do you have any idea the percentage of money that this healthcare system pumps an r d um?
	Speaking of of, of sacrificial altars, I went to New Haven.
	I walked around Yale.
	I'd never been to Yale.
	Oh nice, have you ever been to Yale?
	What do you think?
	Okay, the the point is, first of all, I want to go.
	It was like goodwill hunting, but the guy's really an idiot.
	You know who let you in here.
	Yeah, why would you write?
	Listen, what are you writing on the board?
	Just writing nothing, Jordan Dicks.
	Listen, i'm a.
	I'm an unrecognized genius.
	I've been cleaning the school for a long time and then they're like, all right, let them write that.
	You just start writing in cell.
	You know the liberation of women, Beckonies And Stacy's.
	Stacy's got a fuck Becky's name.
	What I wanted you so bad to be there because I wanted you to, I wanted to film you outside the Skull and Bones tomb.
	Me and you, I wanted somebody to film us yelling, you think you're better than me.
	There was something to me that was so funny about that idea of you being like, you think you're better than me?
	You think you're better than me?
	Mr. Ross Chow Rockefeller.
	Here's the thing.
	I don't think I don't think that anyone gets called.
	Like, it's not like a Bush, you know, George W. Bush gets a phone call and they arrange to have us removed.
	But you think there's like, look, a lot of them become presidents or senators.
	By the way, do you think that anyone has to like remove us from what?
	That's a great question.
	Remove us from what?
	You know, my plan to broadcast from somewhere outside of Tampa in two years.
	Like, from the tomb.
	Oh, yeah.
	But my point.
	It'll be security.
	But like, yeah, I do feel like, look, a lot of them become presidents and presidents of Goldman Sachs or whatever.
	Presidents of something.
	Yeah.
	And there's got to be at least a couple who hang around campus, though.
	Well, so I looked up, so the Bonesman, there was a, you know, I think it was around 2000 and I don't know.
	But Facebook made a lot of photo albums public that were once private.
	So then there was just this photo album of all these Bonesmen, supposedly bones kids.
	Bones kids?
	Well, you know, Yale Bonesman, whatever you call them.
	But, you know, not older people, like, you know, new inductees or whatever.
	And they, you know, there's this upstate New York, there's this island, Deer Island, which is a private Skull and Bones Island.
	It's kind of a dump, right?
	But these kids and probably older members of the thing, they all go there together.
	The thing about Skull and Bones is I actually think, you know, from having Russ Baker on the show and all that stuff, it is just a fraternity of the wealthiest people in the world.
	Right.
	That being said, I'm sure within it, there are constellations of power.
	Sure, but yeah.
	But also, that ain't nothing.
	That ain't nothing.
	No, it ain't.
	A fraternity of the wealthiest kids in the world.
	Yes.
	And they are laying in coffins and drinking fake blood.
	And there's mock sacrifice.
	I'm always in this thing, Bohemian Grove, mock sacrifice.
	Skull and bones, mock sacrifice.
	Why are we doing all these mock sacrifices?
	You know what I mean?
	Here's the thing.
	Here's my example.
	I look at menus of restaurants.
	I'm not going to eat in all the time.
	And I have like, I have a mock meal.
	I look at what I'd order, but I'm fat.
	Right.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Because I really eat a lot of the time.
	Right.
	So the idea that you're like just mock, it's always a mock sacrifice.
	No, it's a metaphor.
	It's a metaphor.
	Here's the thing.
	How many other fraternities are there at Yale?
	Probably.
	Scroll and Key, Wolf's Head.
	There's a lot of elite.
	Let's just say 10 elite fraternities.
	Yes, 10.
	If you're in any one of them.
	Yes.
	You're almost controlling the world.
	You're doing something.
	You're maneuvering.
	I'll tell you what.
	You know how many friends I knew from college?
	I don't think I remember.
	One.
	He runs a bread root from Martin.
	We're not.
	Which I have.
	I have lobster salad from Sables, by the way.
	And I wanted you to bring potato rolls.
	I have great lobster salads from Sables up town.
	It's phenomenal.
	But the point is, like, so the idea that, like, one step more.
	No, we're in the most weird elite one and we do weird shit.
	Yeah.
	So you can call it like, of course, this is like you're already rich kids who have influence.
	It's just like Skull and Bones isn't the Nexus of Power.
	It's just the Facebook of Nexus of power.
	Yeah.
	It's just their social media back then.
	Yeah.
	It's just what it is.
	Right.
	And it's just the way it's the entrance point into a world.
	So I looked at these because I looked at the pictures of these kids and they just look like college kids, diverse, diverse college kids, women, everything.
	So I started looking up some of them and their LinkedIns and everything.
	It's kind of funny.
	Like some of them are like SJ Dubbs.
	I think it's the Skull and Bones SJW is great.
	And I bet that's actually a thing.
	Like the kids are like, I'm an activist, but you know what I mean?
	They truly believe they're making the world better.
	I mean, what was David Rocket?
	Who is David Rockefeller's grandson?
	He's a global warming activist.
	Who is it?
	Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
	It's not being his name.
	But the point is, the Rothschild kids are like, they have some shit there trying to save the world.
	Right, right, right.
	It's like, yeah.
	Stomping around in dirty white converse shoes.
	It's like, we need to start doing better so that they don't remove us from power.
	Yes.
	That's what it is.
	Like, no, grandpa was able to fucking strip mine Africa.
	I just love it.
	It's like, how do they square the it?
	How do they make it all work in their head?
	Because they look, best case.
	Yeah.
	I don't think they fully believe it, but no, because look, someone has to make it better.
	And they have their hands on the wheels of power or close to it.
	And it's like, we need to bring this the mechanisms of power into the 21st century of equality and anti-slavery, anti-racism.
	Right.
	We need to make the world better.
	We're going to make it.
	It's not stable.
	We can't let it.
	It's all going to go to shit.
	It's all chaos.
	How can we?
	I want me and you to do a show at Skull and Bones where we get up there in the dark because we can't see anyone in the group.
	Now, I want to pitch this to Yale.
	I'm dead serious.
	Now, of course, this is not going to happen because they employ several levels of people to make sure nothing like this ever happens, ever, ever, ever.
	But the idea.
	They wouldn't even let Chomsky do this.
	The idea, honestly, just go with me for a second.
	Chomsky is not funny.
	The idea that me and you come out on the stage, okay?
	We have like top hats to go with this.
	The kids, the bonesmen, they're all in whatever.
	They're in their coffins in their seats in the dark.
	We come out on stage and we do our bit.
	We do our hour.
	You know, we cover the Long Island Diner, the Luciferian Elite.
	You know, you go on about Kermit Roosevelt for a while.
	It's we do our whole hour and then we just get out of it.
	Maybe we have a dance routine at the end.
	Sure.
	You know, something fun for everyone.
	And we can be compensated, but I would do it pro bono.
	I would just do it for the experience of doing it.
	I just don't think that they, it's sad, Raymond, that they don't have the sense of humor.
	That's what saddens me.
	I think about these snowflakes and skull and bones.
	Who is very popular right now in comedy?
	Like, who's like Kevin Hart?
	Yeah, I would say him the best.
	I mean, like, you know, Fluffy.
	Whoever the big people really like, Amy Schumer.
	They can get any of them.
	Yeah, but they don't even want any of them.
	But from their perspective, like people like anything's funny.
	Kevin Hart wouldn't waste his time there.
	They can't afford him.
	The point is that.
	Do you think they can't afford him?
	They could, but they wouldn't.
	And he's one of those dudes who like does it.
	Like, my point is like, our act is for them.
	Sure.
	Isn't part of their thing.
	Of course it's not.
	But isn't part of their thing that they don't really care about whatever the art is.
	They just want the prestige.
	We had Kevin Hart come down.
	But they don't talk about any of it anyway.
	This is my point.
	Do you see my point now?
	Okay.
	It's all the same when you can't talk.
	Right.
	There's a soft piano.
	Everything feels good in the dark.
	There's a soft piano.
	Me and you come out.
	We're doing something.
	It's pretty choreographed.
	We're for bigger benefit.
	We're pretty light on our feet.
	Not quite Jackie Gleason, but we're pretty damn good.
	Yeah.
	You know, we're doing a little thing, a little soft shoe.
	Hello, my own.
	Hello, my right.
	Nobody likes that.
	Nobody thinks that's funny.
	They might like it.
	I mean, I'm just putting it out into the world because a lot of people listen to this show.
	And maybe, maybe you're, maybe you're in Skull and Bones and you're afraid to reach out to us, but don't be.
	We have a picture of Stalin up on the projector.
	Yes.
	You got a friend of me.
	Yes.
	Now I like the way you're thinking.
	We do a whole, you know?
	It's like literally, it's like Stalin, Genghis Khan, all the, and it's like, we are the world.
	We are the children.
Soft Piano Moments 00:12:45
	Yeah, yes, this is what I'm going for.
	Just a fun, it's a fun romp.
	That's all.
	Yeah.
	And then.
	I think we should.
	I'm just saying.
	Look, we've broached this idea.
	I know somebody that knows someone who works at Yale.
	I have floated this idea, and the response I got was no.
	You have a manager, you have an agent, but we've broached the idea of...
	But we are not creative these fuckers.
	But we've broached the idea in the past of me, for certain purposes, being your, you know, your, your agent.
	Or I will negotiate with Yale.
	Yes.
	I will get them on the phone.
	I will make threats.
	Well, yeah.
	And the idea, just because my agent's husband listened to this, this was not a serious consideration.
	There may be my agent.
	But there would be nothing funnier than having you negotiate on my behalf.
	You're like, listen, here's the reality.
	Listen, the money you need to understand what we're going to deliver.
	Two words.
	Murray Rothbard.
	You've never seen a show like we're going to.
	Fractional Reserve Bank.
	We got to talk about it.
	This is like the circus when you could hit the animals, you know, when things ran efficiently.
	You want to stick things in us?
	Yeah.
	Pete.
	It's all game.
	It's all game.
	I mean, there's something I like about the idea of, you know, I always wanted to be an elite, Raymond.
	I've always wanted to be an elite, but I was fat and I came from Long Island.
	You want it too much.
	I know.
	You got to take the, but take a cue for me.
	You got to take it for the pedals.
	Because you present as homeless and disturbed.
	But did you ever see that movie of Joe Pesci, where he's a homeless guy at Harvard?
	That's the vibe I'm going for.
	No, but I did see the Irishman.
	I wanted to kill myself.
	So the reality is, I'm just saying, these skull and bones guys, what do you think it's like to be in an institute?
	You get tapped, skull and bone.
	I mean, I went to NASA Community College.
	What's interesting is like, so Bush's kid gets in.
	Kerry's kid gets in.
	Bush's daughter doesn't want to be in.
	She got tapped.
	She said, no.
	Do they have a lot of females?
	They have females now, yes.
	Well, that's the interesting thing.
	There's a couple levels here.
	Because A, it's like there is that elite crop.
	What is the level?
	Like, what is the more marginal, like, who are the guys who like earned their way into Skull and Bones?
	The guys who stole Geronimo's skull, like Prescott Bush and things like that.
	Was he the first?
	He was the first Bush to get in?
	I think he's one of the first classes of people.
	But you know what I'm saying?
	My point is, is it all legacy or some of these people...
	No, people are in their way.
	There are people that are looked at as leaders.
	They go, this person's going to be a leader for whatever reason.
	So those guys are interesting, but also, is it the same way when you know about the Navy...
	Like the Navy SEALs aren't called Navy Seals.
	It's like Dev Grew and there's a SEAL Team 6, but it's not really SEAL Team 6 anymore.
	They changed the thing.
	So is Skull and Bones even the thing anymore?
	Like if Jenna Bush is going, I don't want to be a part of this.
	Is there something else?
	Is there just like, you know, Bahamut's social club or whatever?
	Hey, you're a bonesman.
	I'm actually in Bahamut's social club.
	I'm just saying the idea of being an elite, forget the secret society.
	Just the idea of being at Yale, going to Yale.
	I think it's here's the thing.
	Right.
	I have friends that are elites.
	I don't think it's great.
	Remember George?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think George Bush Sr., the first, you know, George Prescott Bush, or the Walker Bush, whatever.
	Who cares?
	The one who's in the CIA director, you know, the first President Bush.
	I think he, because his role in the CIA and probably killing Kennedy and getting Nixon, like he enjoyed the work.
	But I think most of these guys, you look at a guy like Hitler.
	You look at a guy like Stalin.
	Stalin was a criminal.
	Hitler was whatever the fuck.
	He was like a fucking soldier who turned into a fucking degenerate.
	Yeah, let's just that quote.
	Stalin's a criminal.
	Hitler's a soldier.
	It's just, that's going to be great for the new podcast app Transcription Service.
	No, I'm thinking he would be like a degenerate artist.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My point is, these guys didn't come from elites.
	The people who really want to go crazy transforming the world in their own image usually don't seem to come from these circles.
	So it's probably, it does seem to be, unless you...
	Raymond, I've never been invited to like someone's compound.
	I've never, do you know what I mean?
	I've never been, I have no friends that went to Ivy League school.
	Do you never show up to a party in high school that you weren't invited to?
	Yep, Ray, it's Long Island Party.
	It's a different story.
	We make a fucking nice mac and cheese.
	We make a fucking quiche.
	I know, but I'm saying that I...
	Oh, so you're saying that's the way we just get in?
	You show up with a keys?
	We bring a bottle of champagne.
	Now I like why you're talking.
	But don't you ever say, I just want to be, listen, I'm in the inner sanctum of comedy and I realized how much it sucks.
	Right.
	Then I want, it's not that it sucks.
	It's just different from the rest of you guys.
	The whole of you out there that think that it's going to be a certain way once you get in these groups, it ain't that.
	It's not what you think, right?
	It's just what it is.
	You know, sometimes you'll be around people and you'll be like, oh, this is somewhat different than I'd imagined.
	I just want to know, I wonder if you burrow into the elite sanctum, you know, the inner sanctum.
	I don't think they like it.
	I don't like it.
	Except for the guys who are actually with the hands.
	We have a lot to offer, Raymond.
	I'm saying, but we would.
	That's the point.
	We're not trying to preserve anything.
	Right.
	These guys, look at a guy like Jeff Bezos or a guy like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs.
	They're disrupting and becoming rich and pushing out the old people.
	Yes.
	And like, and the more power or like when Rockefeller and Carney.
	So is that why they want to let us in?
	They're afraid of us.
	I'm trying to follow your logic, right?
	Well, my point is.
	Yes, they're afraid of us.
	We're better than them, Raymond.
	We could do a better job.
	We can do it all.
	But the point is, their job is to be, is to preserve the wealth that came before it.
	They can't let us in because we're charismatic and they fear us.
	Yeah.
	And they can't use us because no one likes us and we're not attractive.
	Exactly.
	That's interesting.
	They can't really blackmail us or use us in any sexual way.
	They can fuck us, but I mean, whatever.
	We'll let them fuck us.
	Interesting.
	But they can't really use that because we'll just let people fuck us.
	It doesn't really matter.
	Right.
	Dale Carnegie fucked me.
	That's how Charlie Rose.
	He's like, what?
	Who are you?
	Is Dale Carnegie still alive?
	I don't think so.
	I read his audio book years ago.
	How to win friends with him for a while.
	I just love it.
	That's what your character at Goodwill Hunting writes on the chalkboard.
	Dale Carnegie, he fucked me.
	They're like, let's take a look at this theorem that he came up with.
	What did he write?
	He wrote Dale Carnegie, he fucked me.
	That's what he came up with.
	But here's my whole thing.
	I've always had a fascination with the elites.
	They've never had that fascination back with me.
	I mean, you're very good at crowd work.
	I don't know if I...
	I have material too.
	I know.
	I'm going to say that.
	What do you say?
	No, no, no.
	I mean, you have jokes.
	You have great jokes.
	I love your Navy Seal bit is great.
	It's a fun one.
	All your bits are Epstein bits, great.
	They're fun.
	Point is, I don't know if they value that as much as we do.
	Interesting.
	I think they tend to.
	Now, here's the thing.
	They all can't be fucking and eating children.
	No, but they're fucking like grown women or men.
	Right.
	They're doing something.
	They're doing.
	Look, when you, look, you know more.
	You haven't dealt with the elite, but you've dealt with rich drug addicts a little bit, right?
	Yeah.
	Doesn't it seem like comparative way you enjoy drugs, they enjoy it less?
	Great.
	Yeah.
	They enjoy everything less.
	There's less thrill to it.
	Yeah, they enjoy everything less.
	Yes, there's a numbing effect.
	And I'm not one of these idiots who's saying it's better to be poor.
	Right.
	But, you know, but I'm saying.
	Let's not say that.
	But my point is, like, I don't think that they appreciate it.
	They would kill themselves if they became poor.
	Right.
	But they don't have the context to really get a thrill out of it or to enjoy the way that you berate, you know, like, look, if Prescott Bush's grandson, whoever he is, Archie Bush, whatever, was in the car, was in the car, Pierce Bush, was in the car with us, when you're yelling at a Taco Bell worker for leaving out your nacho cheese.
	I think it's hilarious.
	Yeah.
	We started to attack, but you know, and jump through the window.
	I want the best for people.
	Yeah.
	And when I see them not performing their tasks.
	Right.
	And listen, I only yelled right because she laughed at me.
	She just didn't understand.
	She laughed.
	You knew she laughed in my face.
	Right.
	Well, you said you wanted my face.
	I think she laughed because you said I want nacho cheese and I want to dip my like apple slices in it.
	Which you meant.
	This is why the bagel guy was not that wrong.
	Yeah.
	There are people that let she just laughed at me.
	She thought I was funny.
	I was not trying to be funny.
	She thought you were nothing to worry about.
	And right.
	And I just went at her.
	And I, and you know, you make a whole big deal out of this.
	You keep bringing it up.
	No, it's a fun time.
	I liked it.
	You were an unpredictable guy.
	She was really starting to be.
	She was terrible.
	She was a terrible person.
	Yeah.
	She's probably an MS-13.
	So she has nothing to fear from me.
	Right.
	But now that I'm recounting this, I understand why many of the elites would not be a party to her.
	Right.
	Like, they're just going to be like, ah, can you shout me off?
	Like, they're not going to.
	I enjoy your company.
	Right.
	They don't like unpredictability.
	You're a little bit of a wild card.
	Yeah, I guess you're right.
	I guess that's what it is.
	I'm a little bit of a wild card, and so are you.
	Yeah.
	But we should be proud of that.
	I am proud.
	That's what America is.
	I'm trying to stick it to these guys.
	We're American and you're doing a great job.
	We're American.
	I'm just, it's interesting to me when you walk around in Yale and you go, you know, these people aren't better than us.
	I don't believe they are better than us.
	No, some of them are.
	But I think we're as smart as they are.
	We're smarter.
	We're smart.
	You are smart.
	You are smart.
	But I feel like we just lack discipline.
	We lack.
	What would have had to happen in our lives?
	Think about this.
	Yeah.
	For us to have gotten into Skull and Bones.
	We've never had a shot.
	No.
	Even if I got into Yale.
	I think, look, they look at you.
	Look, because our parents for them are poor.
	Yeah.
	Like, because, I mean, they look at us probably worse than like scholarship.
	Like lower-income people who get scholarships, like pure, like, like inner city people.
	Yeah, our parents are worse than that.
	We're worse.
	Yeah, to them.
	I mean, like, I think our level, like what they think of as poor is people whose parents are like, you know, successful surgeons.
	Right.
	Or like, you know, they own a small company and aren't the president of an international bank.
	Right.
	Like, so I don't know that even if we got in, I mean, we'd have to do something like the capital statue.
	Like, or like, is that what people say?
	Yeah, we'd have to really make it.
	We'd have to burn down the food court or whatever they call it.
	You know, we'd have to like.
	Imagine we burned down the food court because we thought it would get us into skull and bones.
	We just ended up in jail.
	Like, what are you idiots?
	We wanted to make a statement.
	We burned down the food court thinking we were going to get tapped in the fucking skull and bones.
	And now we're in jail.
	Can somebody please, if you, can somebody please, my dumb fans are all going to, by the way, do this.
	And can somebody please DM me anonymously and tell me about how they got into Skull and Bones or Scroll and Key or Wolf's Head or any of the opportunities.
	Make an Instagram account.
	Just DM me anonymously.
	Now, I know what I've just invited and I know that it's just going to be a million people calling me fat.
	But please, seriously, if you are serious about it, do a dummy account.
	We'll never know who you are.
	Just DM me and tell me how it happened.
	Period.
	And to grease the wheels.
	To grease the wheels.
	You can fuck us.
	You can fuck.
	Listen, you want to come in here and fuck us?
	You can fuck us.
	Even if you need a real human sacrifice, so many of our friends will gladly be sacrificed by you.
	I look.
	What are they going to do?
	Go to the bar every night, making my podcast.
	Please listen to my podcast more.
	Maybe I won't feel this way, but it's like it's starting to feel like.
	Listen, here's the deal: if you let us in for just a week, sacrifice.
	Yeah, sacrifice both of us.
	It's a great ending.
	It's a great ending.
	Let us in.
	Show us how it really is.
	And then light us on fire.
	Now, what if they did that and they go, this sacrifice won't even appease the gods.
	Like, it won't even, like, we can't even do that.
	He's actually going to get mad at us.
	Yeah.
	He gave us this.
	Like, hey, we sacrifice young virgins.
	You slops, you fat.
Wild Card Sacrifice 00:08:22
	Occult shit is weird, though, right?
	I mean, it is interesting, but it is weird.
	Hello.
	There is some weird shit going on.
	Of course, look.
	I mean, Washington, D.C., the amount of symbolism.
	Yeah, it's super weird.
	You don't have to go that far to go, like, oh, is it designed like a pentagram so it can channel energy from Satan?
	I don't know, maybe.
	It's just weird.
	We do enough evil shit, whether we're challenging it.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like, well, that's that's the thing.
	That's the same thing.
	Why does it matter if the kid fuckers are wearing goats?
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	Why does it matter if the George Washington statue is designed after Bahamas?
	I think what it is, is what it does is that just it, it here's what it really does: it illustrates how wrong you could have gotten everything.
	Sure.
	That's what I think.
	I think it's also, do you think it's anything to the idea of like they wanted to let the Pope know?
	Like, don't even fuck around.
	There's something to that.
	Like, when they were, the Vatican at that point was still more.
	Also, Church of England.
	Yeah.
	Do you think it was a certain level of like...
	There's absolutely that type of paganism is a way to because the Enlightenment did kind of play with secularism and all that.
	And the symbolism of Freemasonry was like about Enlightenment.
	But maybe it was also like, hey, like Church of England or fucking Pope.
	Like, we got our own thing going on here.
	I think, yeah, I think part of it was 110%.
	Nick Bryant said it perfectly.
	He's like, some of it is optics and the appearance of things.
	And he goes, some of it is not.
	There are some people that are, you know, really occultists that are deadly serious about it.
	You know, who's who?
	Very hard to know.
	No, who knows what rank they are.
	Very hard to know because me and you have been kept completely out of every circle of, you know, other than the comedy.
	And here's what I, because the elite in comedy, I've been allowed into that circle just seeing some of the funniest people in the world.
	And it's not necessarily what you would think, right?
	It's just not what you would think.
	It doesn't mean it's better or worse.
	It's just kind of different.
	So I wonder if you got it.
	I'm sure the skull and bones kind of sucks.
	I'm sure, because you know what?
	Nobody in Yale is really that good looking.
	I was walking around looking at Yale.
	I'm like, these kids aren't that hot because they're smart.
	They're not that hot.
	And I mean, San Diego State, much hotter.
	You're kind of saying, I know you've dealt with executives and all sorts of people, but like calling these people the elite of comedy is like calling Coltrane the elite of jazz.
	Yeah, he was, but like, that doesn't mean he's the most talented ever, or one of them.
	But like, doesn't mean like the talent is never the quote-unquote elite.
	It doesn't really go hand in hand.
	Interesting.
	Like, the elite are people like David Geffen, who runs the records in this.
	Well, you understand what I mean.
	What I'm saying is that I've had a vantage point to see comedy at its highest levels, but really nothing else.
	Nothing else.
	I've read about a lot of other things, but the only rooms that I've ever been in where I've seen some of the top people in an industry have been in comedy.
	Sure, but you're still not like in a closed room with Lauren.
	No, but I'm pretty close.
	I'm pretty sure.
	I know.
	I know what those rooms are like.
	I've heard the stories from those rooms firsthand.
	Right.
	My point is that what I'm saying is the tentacles into comedy from power aren't really that many, and they won't really get used for that much.
	And we've got like, and like as great as you are, you've kind of done a lot of ways stumbled your nose rightfully because you, you know, they well, they're just right.
	I mean, yeah, you're correct.
	I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a guy the industry of comedy respects and I'm very funny, but I'm also not a guy that they consider to be malleable.
	Right.
	And they're, yeah, no, 100%.
	I'm just wondering when I walk around an institution with Yale, I'm like, I wonder how wrong we have it or how right we are.
	That's the question.
	I think the I think it's just what's interesting to me is they've probably seen some horrific shit or they're they've heard of it.
	They're one degree separated from some horrific shit.
	But the level of boredom that they have with you know so like Les Wexner's kid supposedly is like a bonesman.
	Right.
	So like, is that weird?
	Does anyone turn around and go, hey, like, what's going on with dad?
	Why not?
	I don't think he talks his kid about it, but I think when you're his kid.
	Yeah.
	That's the kind of successional ones where you're his kid.
	You know the stories.
	You guess what's up.
	You start piecing together.
	It's kind of Sopranos with the kids starting to realize that that's why.
	And like, oh, is that why the FBI was doing it?
	Oh, is that who that guy is?
	Oh, that guy's a cat.
	Oh, and all kinds of.
	And so as you come of age, it's not so much that he ever tells you per se, but you kind of go, oh, I probably got to start doing some dirt.
	You know, I probably got to start fucking.
	Well, it's just interesting.
	You wonder what gets talked about in a place like that.
	Will somebody bring it up?
	Will somebody bring something like that up?
	Well, that's a great point.
	Because very, like, very rarely, probably.
	That's what I mean you.
	But they're all doing drugs, aren't they?
	I don't know.
	You think you would think so, right?
	I would think they're having their year in college.
	Yeah, let their guard down.
	Yeah, no, I think they talk about it.
	But they probably bond over, yeah, I think my dad might like, you know, kill people too.
	Like, they don't really know.
	Right.
	Because like, why?
	I don't think those parents ever tell the kids that much.
	Maybe they're older, like when they're 50.
	Of course, they're not telling the kids that much.
	I'm just wondering what, like, you wonder in that group, are they Boy Scouts?
	Are they like, hey, man, I don't know, shit happens.
	Like, no, no, no, no.
	They're smart enough.
	They're not.
	I don't either.
	They're not that stupid.
	Look, they don't have the ambition of a true sociopath person.
	Like, they're a certain kind of sociopath, but the kind who would get into that club on his own.
	But they, they're not bored.
	Like, look, it's the kind of thing where they think they're like decent guys, but like, they've all witnessed date rapes and does nothing.
	They've all gotten chicks drunk.
	Like, they've all paid for hoker.
	Many of them, yeah.
	Well, man, sure.
	I'm saying it's kind of like.
	Maybe not.
	Maybe I'm wondering if these kids are kind of like cucks.
	And I, by the way, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that non-date rapist, but I mean, like, maybe they're not doing drugs and partying.
	Maybe some of them are.
	Maybe they're, you know, how many of them are men?
	How white and how many of them are Ron from Harry Potter?
	How many Liver the Redhead kids?
	Well, I did when I was a kid.
	Don't give me a face like you're better than me.
	It was when I was a kid.
	I watched it.
	I was reading Animal Farm as a kid.
	Yeah, you're reading Animal Farm.
	You want to see what your future is.
	No, I think most like, look, if you look at drug use in general with rich kids, it's like pretty common stereotype that a lot of them end up like drug problems.
	Look, we were talking about like that Robert Koa stuff.
	My dad got me that Robert Kowasaki River book.
	And like, yeah, it's really hard for rich kids, for instance, to like build wealth on their own and not to be prized on their family's wealth.
	Like, it's hard.
	So if you're part of that system, I think it's hard for a lot of them to not fuck around with drugs and alcohol and then push boundaries.
	Those parents are always like high-power people who aren't paying attention anyway.
	So, like, why wouldn't they be getting into trouble?
	So, the odds of them being Boy Scouts, it's like, yeah, that's that's I'm wrong on that.
	Yeah, I think so.
	They're smarter, they're shrewd.
	Yeah, they see how like they have a sense of like their dad has a like he drops little pearls of wisdom, like right.
	Oh, well, you know, Qaddafi thought he was smart, too.
	Right, go clean your room, right?
	So, it's like they, I think they get the whiff of it, and by the time they're in college, uh, I think they're piss ants in a lot of ways, and I think they're and they don't really know.
	I'm not saying that they're qualified to do any of the dirt, real dirt, but I think that I don't, I think that they're totally willing and think and think more of themselves than they are, and they think they're bred for this when it's all horseshoe, but they think they're bred for it.
	And that's, I think the arrogance of thinking you're bred for it is a lot of it.
	The arrogance that that builds into you makes you into the kind of sociopath that eventually can, because all you're really doing is manipulating the wheels of power.
	Kurt Vonnegut, we must be careful what we pretend to be.
	Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's really, that's really what it is.
	Very interesting.
	It's a very interesting discussion.
	And what it would really hits home to me is that we will never, ever, ever, ever, even accidentally, be welcomed into what if we get a job at the local pizzeria and we maybe deliver a pizza one day.
Human Contact Taste 00:04:26
	We bide our time.
	What if we're delivered?
	Yes.
	Like in March of the Wooden Soldiers, we get delivered.
	We pose as hookers.
	And we pop out of a box.
	Yeah.
	Or a bomb.
	Pop out of a bomb.
	I think that, and you know what owns like Deer Island, what owns Calm Bones and Russell Trust Association.
	I also think they own Yale.
	I mean, it's like, it's big money and big power players.
	And you know what?
	I mean, I got to be honest with you.
	Is anything there more elite than what goes on at Nassau Community College, which is where success starts and continues?
	You kid, but I mean, I've heard.
	It is the top community college in the country.
	I've heard that they've had in the past 10 years, like 30 people become partners at Goldman.
	Have you ever been to the top flight food court?
	No.
	Well, it's phenomenal.
	It used to have a Taco Bell, and I would get a grilled stuffed burrito.
	It's nice.
	Does Goldman recruit out of Nassau?
	Actually, I was kidding about that.
	I would say no.
	Okay.
	But I'll tell you who does.
	The Suffolk PD.
	I'll tell you who does recruit out of Nassau Community College.
	Well, I'll tell you that.
	That campus put the Brentwood campus of Suffolk where I attended to.
	To shame.
	Oh, Amerman sucks.
	No, I didn't go to Admiral.
	I went to Brentwood.
	Oh, that's still wet.
	Brentwood's terrible.
	Brentwood is like, they don't even have grass.
	It's just like crab grass.
	And the buildings are all just like, they look like that, like a Brench Davinian complex or something.
	Well, it's what the people deserve.
	With your wake-up time.
	I would like to go back to Yale with you.
	Yeah.
	Let's go now.
	Let's fucking get an Uber.
	Well, no, I want to go get the Christmas log cake right now.
	I love a Swiss roll Christmas cake.
	It's very, and the restaurant that's doing it is keto.
	Are you still keto?
	Yep.
	Two months.
	Keto.
	Keto.
	I'm wearing smaller pants.
	He's a keto man with a keto plan.
	I'm fucking, I'm just getting the hard dig and strong abs.
	Well, I don't know about that.
	I haven't seen that.
	And it's good for your blood flow.
	It might be.
	Yeah.
	But I also think that, you know, there's all kinds of debates about what is good and what isn't good.
	Look, at the end of the day, people go, is that healthy?
	I'm like, being massively overweight isn't healthy either.
	It's only bite the bullet for a bit.
	The reality is being alive isn't healthy.
	Yeah.
	Let's be honest.
	Being alive is not healthy.
	Right.
	That's the reality.
	What a dinner that wasn't.
	I mean, it was meat.
	It was meat.
	A little disappointing.
	It was a lot of fat.
	I mean, the thing, here's the thing.
	You asked, I don't want to disparage the woman.
	She meant well.
	She was being a little too flirty for my taste.
	She was, she grabbed your arm.
	The waitress grabbed your arm.
	Yeah.
	Now, when you grab a man like your arm, she's taking her life in her hand.
	I'm getting, I mean, I didn't get hard.
	But like, you'll, but here's the thing: if you'll, you might just bite.
	Well, I'm not gonna bite her.
	Well, no, but just as a reaction.
	Look, I'm just saying I'm in a healthy relationship.
	I'm getting laid.
	I'm being doesn't matter.
	That's that's neither here nor there.
	I'm being milked.
	But my point is that you know, certain points, certain times in my life, I'm more lonely.
	That human contact, I get a taste for it.
	Maybe I start seeking it out.
	You don't know what that is.
	That's why it also is very expensive.
	Was that you had what three bourbons?
	Two.
	Oh, just two?
	Yeah.
	I think you had three.
	I had two.
	Are you sure?
	She asked me to want a third.
	I said, no.
	Okay.
	Two bourbons.
	That's fine.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	No, you could have as much bourbon as you want.
	You know, I think by her touching you, caressing your arm like that.
	Yeah.
	She's taking her life in her hands.
	I might have bit her.
	I mean, I probably would have pet her.
	You just.
	Worst case, I'm saying I would have like grabbed her head.
	Here's what I could say.
	I would have started petting her head.
	Here's what I could see happening.
Reality Show Manifestation 00:15:27
	Yeah.
	She caresses.
	She caresses you.
	Yeah.
	You turn around and grab her hand, and now she automatically knows she made a mistake.
	And you look deeply in her eyes and go, I feel something too.
	I feel something too.
	And she immediately knows.
	Now, what does she do?
	Is it like an anaconda?
	Because when you're an anaconda bites you because its teeth curve backward, you have to actually force your hand deeper into its mouth before you can get it out.
	What does she do?
	Does she just pull away or does she caress you a little bit, even though she's very fearful, terrified for her life?
	She keeps caressing you so you loosen up the thing and then go.
	Well, I would say, you know what to do, stick it in deeper, take it deeper.
	But no, but like, yeah, she, but she was a little too familiar.
	We were talking at dinner about the lack of real activism when it comes to Hollywood people.
	Like, and because some of it would be a little funny, right?
	Like, you know, why isn't like Lizzo a truther?
	It would be funny if Lizzo, but not a 9-11 truth.
	No, Sandy Hook truth.
	Just Sandy Hook truth.
	Yeah.
	Because Lizzo does these things on stage before she performs, or she goes, I want you to put your lights up.
	That light represents the light inside you.
	And I want you to look at yourself and you say, I love you because you're beautiful.
	And I want you to look around and realize that you are the only one you need.
	I want you to also ask yourself this question: Why would they build another school where the Sandy Hook High School was?
	Does that make any sense to you?
	I don't think it's good.
	Well, whatever it was, middle school.
	Why would they level a building and build a completely new one?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	That's all.
	Right.
	And then she would just go into her stuff, you know?
	Yeah, I just picture her having that giant ass, and there's also like a facility, a festive.
	What do you call it?
	A facilitate.
	Facsimile of building seven just collapsing under.
	I just want you to love yourself.
	Ladies, love yourself.
	And also realize, let's be honest, that the Mossad planted the bombs in the towers.
	Your children are crisis actors.
	Your children, have you ever met anybody that died in Sandy Hook?
	I don't think so.
	There are no death certificates for any of them.
	Where are the death certificates for the kids?
	Okay.
	Jerome.
	Jerome.
	Drag your ass home.
	What's his name?
	Little Zeke or little...
	I don't know.
	Little Lil Zan?
	Little Zan.
	Lil Zan.
	Well, he doesn't even know where he is.
	Somebody at Elohim City?
	Yeah.
	Yo, the craziest shit that happened to Elohim.
	You know, like, you know, remember Terrence Yeeky?
	He fucking, yo, son just, he dead and shit because he knew that McVay did not act alone.
	All right, now here's my new song.
	It's called I Love You Bitch.
	Who do you think would do worse in a crowd that was there to see Lizzo and little Little Zan?
	The Beastie Boys or Dick Cheney?
	I feel like Dick Cheney would do better.
	No, the Beastie Boys would do a lot better.
	That's how relevant they are, though.
	They might as well be.
	They're not as relevant.
	They're so relevant.
	My friend Michelle went to go see them when they were in Brooklyn.
	I just love an interview with Doja Cat where she really starts talking about, you know, like, you know, some, like where she just goes off about the Anunnaki.
	And they're like, listen, you know, juicy is about butts.
	She's like, yeah, it's about butts.
	But it's like also about that we were created as slaves to mine for anatomic gold, which is the only way that the Anunnaki on their planet is the only way they could breathe.
	I believe the asshole is your third eye.
	Your asshole, you can see through your asshole, and it's like your pineal gland.
	You have to open your asshole up because that is where you're going to see the truth through your asshole.
	That's why it's protected by all that fat.
	That good, beautiful fat, gelatinous fat.
	But yeah, none of these fucking people, none of them take it where it should go.
	I mean, look, they all want to talk shit about like.
	It's got to be everybody's woke, but nobody's really woke.
	Yeah, no one knows.
	Like, it's like, oh, you know, fucking COINTOL PRO.
	Right.
	But no one wants to admit, like, yeah, who was this?
	Like, I want to thank my manager and my agent.
	I want to thank all the fans.
	And I want to thank Larry Silverstein for saying, pull it audibly on tape.
	Before Building 7 came down, he said, pull it.
	Bitch ain't listening to his dumb wife.
	He's the fucking...
	Oh, my wife's on a skin tag.
	I gotta get a skin tag.
	I just want to say this, the dream come true to stand up here in the American Music Awards with so many talented people.
	I also want to say, let's be honest, if they had a million death camps working 24 hours a day, they never could have got to 6 million.
	That's just the way it is.
	That's just the way it is.
	We just see people like, what?
	Stop mid-clap, just really confused.
	Why doesn't that happen more often?
	Why don't people, why don't people just have, like, like, almost have a mini stroke and say something crazy more often?
	Why don't the people who've been given houses in Laguna Beach question the No, you know what I mean, though.
	Like, these people are on so many drugs, a lot of them.
	And somehow they stand.
	Now, this is where people are going to message me.
	They're going to be like, mind control.
	But it's like, every now and then, like, Sean Penn would have a slip up.
	Oh, Kanye, Kanye.
	But it's like interesting that a lot of people.
	Even Kanye, as ballsy as Kanye, as much as you don't really give a fuck or supposedly doesn't give a fuck.
	You remember that?
	Like George Bush doesn't care about black.
	But even that, he looked nervous.
	Well, sure, because that was, you know, I mean, I'm saying, like, when's the last time you saw someone just really like when they do have those little spurts, it always comes out.
	No one's just going like dropping knowledge in a ball.
	Yeah, well, it's just that, listen, the system works and they're not going to jeopardize what they have.
	But I just find it funny that, like, you know, Roseanne goes off, right?
	Sure.
	Roseanne's wild, but she's also mentally ill.
	I think you got to have a little mental illness to risk so much.
	You got to realize you're living.
	Well, first of all, like, I think she's a little more freewheeling after she lost the show.
	Yeah.
	Not that she wasn't pretty out there.
	She was pretty, she was pretty out there before.
	But she's also such a maniac.
	Yeah.
	That, like, even though, like, I think a lot of people thought, well, she's so crazy.
	No one's going to take it seriously anyway.
	And then she kind of went further than they thought she would.
	Look, you can argue the whole tweet thing.
	It did come.
	Look, to me, it came off.
	Was she wearing the clothes of Dr. Zayas?
	I get, but, you know, it came off like, ooh, why is she being that racist?
	Yeah, it didn't look good.
	It was a good look.
	But in general, when she's like, no, the crystals and the onions.
	I just think she's one of the only people that even looks into that.
	I think a lot of people out there.
	Into what?
	Like numbers and all the counting of the numbers?
	Into anything.
	It's nonsense.
	Into anything.
	She's just one of the only people that looks into how the government is run.
	I don't think a lot of people.
	I don't really know if she is, though.
	What do you mean?
	Well, I mean, it's QAnon shit.
	Some of it is.
	Some of it's not.
	Some of it's not.
	I listen to her.
	Not the whole thing.
	Some of it is QAnon shit.
	Here's my thing.
	I mean, dude, if you don't want QAnon shit to get popular, I mean, you know, don't kill Epstein.
	Don't fucking know.
	Sure.
	I love a crazy woman as much as the next guy.
	Yeah.
	I'm just saying, I don't think that these people even have a clue.
	Like a lot of the people that are in Hollywood that are actors or actresses or big musicians, I don't think they don't think they've looked into anything.
	What do you do?
	So Kylie Jenner.
	Because, I mean, look, Kim is one thing.
	But Kylie Jenner, does she just think she's like an Egyptian god or some shit?
	Like she's just some like, like, does she even realize how fucked because I feel like Kim, you know, she had to have a porn tape first, and it was a little, it was a little more messy.
	And then she had the reality show.
	But Kylie's like a billionaire.
	She's like, what, like 16 years old?
	Yeah.
	I'm just saying, like, she just thinks she's like a fucking reincarnated like god.
	Like, does she even realize how because she should be ground zero of knowing how fucked it is because she's part of this weird apparatus.
	But I feel like she doesn't.
	Are you asking if Kylie Jenner is questioning things?
	If she's questioning.
	I'm asking if she's reading the Ness, the Ness report on Building 7.
	I don't think so.
	No, but seriously, is she questioning, like, is she aware?
	Wow, I'm just getting over or is she just deluded, like self-delusion?
	I don't think she thinks she's getting over.
	I think they're a smart family, right?
	They're shrewd.
	They know how to fucking operate.
	And they're just fucking, dude.
	I know some people that know them.
	I've never met them.
	I don't know anything about them.
	I know a few people that know them.
	They're all about business.
	Chris Jenner is about business.
	They're fucking just, you know.
	So, I mean, she started what?
	She's a billionaire because of a makeup line.
	Yeah, I'm not putting it down.
	I'm not just.
	No, I'm just saying, yeah, I mean, you know.
	Do you realize like you're like you're part of this weird nexus of reality TV and sort of a porn thing and it's weird like these sexualization?
	Do any of them feel guilty about Trump?
	That's an interesting question.
	Like to any of those people realize that the world that they helped build gave people Donald Trump.
	I don't really well.
	I mean, I feel like he was doing his show before they did, didn't he?
	I'm talking about the world.
	I'm talking about, and I'm not saying that they're responsible.
	I'm just wondering if they ever look at what, you know, they've, you know, contributed to and the type of celebrity obsessed culture.
	I mean, Trump comes from an obsession with celebrity and celebrity culture.
	That's all that's left in America.
	You know, everything's rotted.
	The only thing we have left is an obsession with celebrities.
	You know what I mean?
	I got no love for them.
	And it'd be easy for me to agree with that.
	But I kind of feel like Trump is this kind of primal celebrity that's almost like a Barnum and a P.T. Barnum type.
	That's exactly what they are.
	That's exactly what they're doing.
	He would have resonated in the 80s.
	Well, he did.
	He didn't.
	He wasn't the president.
	He absolutely wouldn't have.
	Trump is important is impossible without the Kardashians.
	Without people like that.
	But Trump doesn't exist.
	Without the real housewives, without the onslaught of reality television where you're watching a show that is fake and you don't care.
	Go with me for a second.
	You're watching something that isn't real and you don't care and you still enjoy it.
	And you know that it's heavily manufactured and that, you know, best case, heavily manufactured, worst case, completely manufactured.
	And you don't care and you still enjoy it because it's real enough.
	It's just real enough.
	The houses are real.
	The outfits are things they might wear.
	They live in the places that they live, but the actual interactions and things are all heavily manufactured, arranged.
	I think without that, and I think that, and everyone focuses on social media, which is absolutely true.
	Social media has made us more coarse and callous and the way we deal with each other and process information.
	But if you look at reality television, the way that that's helped shape culture, I mean, the way that people act on a reality show, the way that they act, how aggressive they are, that they just fight each other, that they throw wine at each other, and that you enjoy the spectacle of that.
	Okay.
	And I mean, it's a Roman Coliseum.
	Fair point.
	It's been around forever.
	This is the latest manifestation.
	The way he brought a bunch of sexual assault victims to a debate.
	100%.
	Yeah, no, you're right.
	This is a move that's a move from the series season finale of your favorite show.
	And reality TV is the world that, you know, America, you know, is a reality show.
	Right.
	And, you know, people said that, and it's kind of like, I don't want to say hack at this point, but it's a cliche thing to say, but it is a reality show.
	People, you turn on the news now not to get news.
	Right.
	You turn it on for drama.
	What is the big selling point for reality TV is drama.
	Here's a weird thing.
	We're old enough.
	And I think you as a kid watch some news as a kid.
	You remember what the news was like.
	I remember the news.
	Kids who are like 20 now didn't grow up with that at all.
	They have no idea.
	The news was boring.
	They think the news is boring because they don't care about anything.
	Right.
	But the news used to be, I mean, if you watch the NBC Nightly News, it's still a little dry.
	Right.
	But I mean, like, but no one's watching that.
	I'll tell you this.
	Kids that are growing up now, nothing is boring.
	Right.
	The idea that anything is boring, everything is entertaining unless they turn it off.
	We used to have like people, I mean, it's still, yes, PBS is still like that.
	But like, but I mean, you used to have shows.
	But look, PBS, like when you watch PBS now, if you're a young person listening, go watch the Jim Lear news hour on PBS.
	Right.
	That's what the corpse.
	Yeah.
	And that's, and he's dead now.
	Compare, compare, ready?
	Charlie Gibson, Sam Donaldson, Cokie Roberts.
	The most you got was, what's his name?
	The McLaughlin group.
	And he was still a fucking like geriatric.
	Sean McLaughlin was a wallflower compared to any of the people now.
	Compared to fucking Tomi Laron.
	Right.
	Compared to Alex Jones.
	Compared to anybody.
	I mean, even a maniac like Pat Buchanan, he's still sitting there most of the time not saying crazy shit.
	Right.
	I mean, he's like responding to questions.
	Compare that to Bill O'Reilly.
	Compare that to Hannity and Combs.
	Pat Buchanan would just be like, well, no, Archie.
	He'd just be explaining the answer.
	And then sometimes he would say, well, whore, but you know, whatever you were.
	Whore, the whore.
	But I mean, like, that's the, he was a clown.
	But, I mean, still, like, it is the level of theatrics that the news has become.
	Well, part of it, I think, is that, you know, 24-hour news, CNN came in in the 1990s with the Iraq war.
	And then, like, the O.J. Simpson trial changed a lot of it.
	People, that was the first news story that I think ran round the clock.
	And then we started the process of becoming a tabloid.
	I feel that Nancy Grace really was the final level of it.
	It wasn't good.
	I mean, she was maybe the, I think the final level is I'm Donald Trump, and I take the oath of office.
	Fair enough.
	Maybe as far as like, could be, even with Greta, even Greta Sustrin, really.
	Yeah, Van Sustrain, she was much better than before the plastic surgery.
	But like, she made her name off for Court TV in the OJ trial.
	But she was still like, oh, she used to be a journalist and she's kind of a respectable person.
	Well, this whole idea that you had point counterpoint.
	Right.
	Like the politicization of the news to where it was like, this guy says this, I say that, point counterpoint.
	There are no facts.
	There's just interpretations of a story.
	And then the idea that you had two people on either side of it.
	And then you had two networks on either side of it.
	Then you had Fox at MSNBC.
	And then, you know, things just splintered into a million different versions of reality.
	And now, so it's interesting, like, what is the next iteration?
	Because we're a tabloid country.
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	We're a celebrity-obsessed culture.
	Where does that go?
	Like, where do people get totally turned off by that eventually?
	And what is the, because here's what I'm watching now.
	I'm starting to kind of watch like Jeffree Star, who's this trans, very wealthy guy on YouTube was huge.
	And like, I don't watch it, but I like, I like try to keep tabs on what, what's going on on like, because in LA, it's hard to ignore like the hype beasts, these kids that buy sneakers and shirts.
	They stole my phone.
	Yeah, they stole your phone.
	I try to do that on stage when I do your accent and everything.
	It's like, oh, I was like, I buy a goddamn hype beast.
	But the reality is there's an interesting level of materialism.
	Like, Jeffree Star and Shane Dawson just released this conspiracy theory, I believe, like line of makeup.
	What?
	Yeah, I'm not kidding.
	They did this thing on YouTube called Conspiracy Theories, where they investigate conspiracy theories.
	I don't know if you're familiar with this.
	This is a, this guy, Jeffree Star, is, I mean, look him up.
	Look up Jeffree Star.
	We're talking about massive.
	We're talking about, in terms of YouTube numbers, you know, maybe one of the biggest YouTubers.
	So Jeffree Star, just to give you an idea, his channel, he got 16.7 million subscribers.
	Okay.
	How many?
	16.7 million.
	And now Shane Dawson, who's like...
	Oh, wow.
	This is a trans person.
	Yeah.
	And then Shane Dawson, you know, you're looking at his channel.
	He's got 23 million subscribers.
	So then he did this.
	They do this thing.
	You know, conspiracy theories.
	There was makeup.
	Is it Jeffree Star approved?
	So here's, here's, here's what's interesting about all this stuff.
	This kind of rampant materialism, which I've noticed.
	Well, there's also that makeup kid.
	What's that guy?
	That guy's name, the young kid?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	He gets like 7 million viewers.
	There seems to be a real obsession with makeup, with accessories, with clothing.
	By the way, there was always fashion when I grew up.
	There was always the idea of Gucci and Prada and whatever.
	They'll figure it.
	And then there was always styles.
	I grew up with baggy jeans and eventually it was Jenkos.
	I had a starter jacket.
	Yes.
	Materialism isn't new, but there's this new iteration of it.
	Right.
	And it's very interesting.
	And I wonder where that goes.
	Well, here's, I mean, look, it is crazy.
	I wonder if, because look, you watch these guys and like in these makeup kids and like the plastic level of it.
	And like, right.
	And like, I don't think most of the people watching it are like you, when I watch that video, I feel sick.
	Not because the guy is like, you know, has style or is glamorous, but just like it's all so fake and weird.
	And I get depressed.
	Right.
	This is what kids are like.
	I don't think kids, I think it's just more like, I don't think, I think a lot of the kids are just watching it and going like, they're not really, but that being said, like...
	It's so fake.
	It's so overdone.
	It's so over the top.
	What, yeah, what is the attraction to that?
	Is it because there's such an emptiness all around us that the idea that something is so almost like, it's like a fairy tale or it's like the way people are made up, it's like they're so.
	Well, look at pop music, right?
	They almost look mystical.
	I don't know.
	Is this a thing of is this an offshoot of comic book movies?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	I mean, look at pop music, right?
	Yeah.
	And the way we, like, when our generation had it.
	When you come to LA, you are opening for Doja Cat.
	Of course.
	A lot of people think that I'm lying about that, but you are opening for Doja.
	No, I mean, how did you meet her?
	I was at an Arby's and I was throwing up in the bathroom.
	Yeah, why was it, was it bad meat or was it too much?
	I think I say too much.
	Okay.
	And she's banging on the door.
	Like, I got to think of shit.
	Right.
	Come out and go, you look framers or something.
	And she's like, bitch, I'm Doja Cat.
	Oh.
	Tim Dylan talks about you.
	Oh.
	And she goes, what that fat, that greasy motherfucker?
	She said faggot.
	Don't put your tongue back in your mouth.
	I saw what she said.
	I said fat.
	But we got some drinks.
	You got some hennessy?
	A little bit.
	Got a little henny.
	A little honey.
	She got a little henny with her.
	Doji Katrick and Henny and paper cops and Arby's.
	Yeah.
	And then she said, why don't you know, are you going to do music?
	What are you going to do?
	I'm going to do my synth music, but also like I make electronic music.
	Everyone knows that.
	And I'm going to do like spoken word over it.
	We got to do a show in LA where you just do synth music and spoken word.
	I'm not even kidding.
	That would be amazing.
	So what are you trying to say?
	All right.
	So we grew up, right?
	Let's look at the generation, the boomers, too.
	Yeah.
	So look, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles and like, they were good musicians, right?
	But then you have like the generation after, like, the Van Hanlons.
	And I'm saying, like, there were, like, we grew up in the 90s with Grunge, Nirvana, right?
	And, like, and Nirvana was kind of legit.
	Like, there was a troubled guy.
	But all the other bands are around them.
	There was a definite currency in authenticness, whatever you want to refer to.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Right.
	And we, and like, whether it was horseshit, but there was a value to that.
	And we, and you needed to have it.
	And even pop music at the time wasn't as much that.
	But, like, Millie Vanilli, like, when they found that they lip synced, they were shunned.
	Right.
	Right.
	And that's gone now.
	Like, like, anyone caring if anyone's like, like, I'm not even saying that no one's authentic, but that no one cares if you are.
	That's not part of the deal.
	Maybe country music.
	Part of, yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right.
	Part of the attraction to a lot of these people is that they do style themselves as, I don't want to use the word freaks in a negative way, but like people that are so over the top and so out of this world that you wouldn't necessarily like, they're glamorous to luxurious as your buddy contra points, opulence.
	Like the idea of it just being over, it's just overkill.
	You know what bugs me about it?
	You look at Ziggy Stardust or like Aladdin Saint, like Bowie's different looks and personalities.
	And he was doing it in a time when like no one necessarily wanted it.
	It was weird.
	So much of this stuff now, it's like no one even, like, there's no one said, I mean, I'm sure like there's fucking pastors out there going, this is the terrible.
	Do you think part of it is that people have actually gotten pretty boring and they're actually trying to figure out a way to seem unique and different, 100%.
	But that social media technology has kind of flattened people, whereas people and they're corralled very easily into all liking one thing so that individuality has kind of been destroyed.
	So the only way to do it is you just paint yourself.
	I mean, I see it myself.
	Like, I and some of it's just, you know, me being a blowhard idiot, but you know, but I'm a relatively nuanced person.
	And I'm not the, I have good tweets sometimes and then people, you know, stuff resonates.
	You instruct your client to answer the question.
	The question was, when was the last time he saw the victim of this crime?
	He has said he is a nuanced person and that he has good tweets.
	The question was, when is the last time you saw the victim of this crime?
	Narbus.
	All right.
	Keep going.
	No, my point is like, yeah, no, like, it's what's rewarded, generally speaking, is more monosyllabic or more like things that are just kind of more digestible.
	So that's one element of it.
	But it's also, we were talking before, like, yeah, like, Lizard was great.
	And like, a lot of these people, Doja Kask, yeah, she's good.
	But like, it's not Whitney Houston.
	Right.
	And then Aretha's Franklin.
	Like, right.
	There isn't like, I don't know where.
	Because so much of it now goes into the marketing.
	A lot of it is the marketing.
	And it's not so much.
	I mean, I mean, I think it's interesting.
	And I think, so what you, what you see now is you see on the left and the right, you see like these discredited ideas, whether it's communism or whether it's fascism or whether it's, you know, white supremacy or whether it's these Jew conspiracy theories, like Jewish conspiracy theories.
	Sorry.
	But they all come back.
	We all, you know, and there's something interesting about the idea that maybe we are reaching the end of a stage and that because technology has gotten that we are going to, you could technologies become so, you know, powerful that the next stage of our life is going to be unlike any that we could imagine.
	Like it's not going to be, because we seem to be in a loop where we're just trying, we have the same problems we had 100 years ago, other than that, you know, that have been made better by technology or medicine or whatever.
	We have the same issues with each other.
	We have the same problems.
	We have a lot of the same conspiracy theories.
	We have the same fears.
	We have the same maybe at a certain point, it's just we're on the verge of taking that next leap into whatever the future is going to be.
	And it might be where the human era is over.
	I mean, it's interesting because I'm never going to be one of the guys like who, oh, like, is there too much, not opulence, but like permissiveness in society and all this shit.
	But there is something weird that happens when the permissiveness or whatever you want to call it, or just the lack of taboo in society means that art has no more power.
	There is no potency to art ever anymore.
	There's really almost nothing you can do to shock.
	And not that you want shock effect in art per se, but that like you like even South Parkinson, which is great and still brilliant, isn't really shocking people.
	I would say that it's, I think it's a great point about the permissiveness in society, but it's also what happens when the satire becomes the news.
	Like Trump is the president.
	Kardashian, Kim Kardashian is at the White House campaigning for it.
	Well, that's more what I mean.
	The overstimulation and the overall there isn't, I mean, all of the possibilities, or many of them, have been realized.
	I mean, we are at a point now where to satirize or you can't heighten anything anymore.
	We've talked about that.
	And you just wonder at a certain point where it's like, how, you know, the human race in general, it's like, you know, are we at the furthest we can go?
	I mean, is look, there's different types of totalitarianism, right?
	Right.
	Like the Nazis clearly evil, Stalin evil.
	The Roman Empire killed a lot of people.
	Yeah.
	But I feel like it was a little less like, you know, race driven, maybe.
	Maybe not.
	I don't know.
	Well, regardless, I'm not promoting it, but is this kind of almost a natural, like, almost like the Matrix, the whole, when he meets that fucking, the colonel, the Colonel Sanders guy.
	My point is a cyclical.
	It's this thing of like, you know, society will get to a point where every because this is kind of reminds you of Rome and Caligula in a way and hero.
	Well, here's the problem.
	We as biological beings are just not efficient.
	We're just not, right?
	And the phone that we hold in our hand, all the technology around us is so much more efficient than we are.
	We're kind of gumming up the system with our stupid ideas, right?
	With our racism or whatever.
	We're just gumming it up.
	We're fighting with each other.
	It just is what it is.
	At a certain point, we're going to have to be made more efficient.
	And I don't know how that's going to happen.
	I don't know if that's going to be.
	Efficient for what?
	Meaning that I think as AI gets more powerful and as automation gets more powerful, there's probably going to be ways to fuse with that technology to make us potentially more productive and efficient.
	I'm not saying this is going to be a good thing.
	I just don't get if that's the goal.
	I think it's just going to happen.
	It's already happened.
	But the best the outcome that the people in power are cool with or would be cool with.
	Sure.
	And we know who's in power really from the end of the day, what they're into, what they're willing to allow.
	Like, why are they, what keeps us around at that point?
	Oh, I don't know much.
	I don't think we're.
	I just.
	Are they going to really pay for that fat guy at Walmart to get melded with the computer?
	No, I mean, and it's part of why I think you see the gates being, you know, every house is a fortress and people have their own private security.
	And I think part of this is the long con of how exactly do we let large sections of the country fail.
	Do you think they hope?
	You talked before how LA, like cholera is coming back and this.
	Oh, all of those things.
	Do you think that's, I'm not going to go as far, although I would, I'm going to start going to, that they're doing it on purpose.
	But do you think they're kind of actively hoping that diseases spread?
	I don't know what they're doing.
	I wouldn't say that, but I think they are making contingency plans and have been for a very long time to just allow large...
	And listen, Youngstown, Ohio, Flint, Michigan, Detroit.
	This is not Bridgeport, Connecticut.
	None of this is speculative.
	And to be clear, this is not about reptilians controlling population.
	This is about, and it's not about saying they're right, but it's about saying we know that there's a certain lack of humanity in the ruling class.
	And at that point, like, why would they keep around the poor?
	This is part of why you don't want this high society because this is what it leads to.
	The reality is you look at what's going on and you say that these, you know, they've already let cities.
	Detroit did not have to fail.
	That's number one.
	Sure, it didn't have.
	Detroit did not have to fail.
	I mean, globalization didn't have to go down the way he went.
	All of it didn't have to happen.
	But the point is that there's a certain callousness that the ruling elites have towards human beings.
	It's just, it's just not.
	I don't see it.
	Now you also have tech.
	Now, the guys that are at the head of these tech companies a lot, and I've been reading about them recently, a lot of them, you know, they're utopians.
	They do believe that they're making the world a better place.
	Yeah, for who, though?
	Well, correct.
	Now, when you have those two things happen, when you have the callous, cold-hearted, you know, very pragmatic in a sinister way, elite, have all these tools and all this technology, you know, what happens, I think the only thing that happens is they let large sections of the country fail.
	And most people will then at that point flock to cities for work.
	And those cities will become mega cities, which is why the Pentagon studies fighting what's it going to be like to fight urban warfare in mega cities.
	These are things that the Pentagon studies because they assume that by 2040, the populations of Los Angeles and New York have grown exponentially.
	But like, they're not really like you look at how New York is growing, quote unquote, and it's growing with these like massive towers for the rich.
	But like, they're really not expanding where like, I mean, I guess the suburbs are more like, but you know what I'm saying?
	Like, it's not like there's a ton of jobs in the city that are being absorbed into the city from Detroit.
	It's more like those people, most of those people are just out of work or in fast food or whatever.
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	100% service.
	I think what happens and what they're imagining that will happen is Detroit is not going to be a rarity.
	It's going to be one of many things.
	Right.
	And I'm making a point that we're not going to, I don't, I think having super cities seems like an optimistic outcome compared to what we've seen.
	No, I mean, super cities, I don't know what you mean.
	I'm talking about you will have like very crowded, I mean, similar to Asian cities where they're very crowded and the majority of people.
	But why who's flying?
	Look, people in poverty.
	People who've been pushed out of their work aren't going to flock to New York because that's the last place you want to live.
	They can afford to.
	But they can't afford to live there.
	They live in slums.
	They live in slums.
	Go to Hong Kong.
	They live in slums.
	Mumbai.
	They live in slums.
	I'm telling you, the future of this is from the Pentagon.
	This is not from me.
	This is from the Pentagon.
	They were ran by Iraq.
	No, I mean, I'm telling you.
	I'm telling you.
	I'm telling you.
	People are go, do you want to go to East New York and you want to go to these places and you want to see how people...
	I used to live right next to the Brownsville.
	So you know that poor people live in New York.
	I don't understand what you're assuming.
	But poor people didn't mass migrate there.
	Of course they did.
	They've been doing it for 200 years.
	Why do you think this fucking poor people have been coming to New York City forever to work?
	Well, immigrants come through New York, right?
	That's part of it.
	But they came through New York.
	You have all kinds of people that grew up in horrible places that come to New York in rust belt towns that are shot.
	Where do you think they go?
	Youngstown, Ohio.
	They come here.
	Absolutely.
	They're people.
	They are people that are here to be waiters.
	I don't know what you're saying.
	New York is a whole entire population made of people that escaped from somewhere else.
	So if all of those things, if those areas continue to not be able to support populations, they're going to come here.
	They're going to go to L.A.
	They don't have a choice.
	Right.
	But I'm saying like at a certain point, it's just the jobs will be filled.
	Well, yo, yeah.
	Okay.
	That was your argument.
	Yeah, no, the jobs are filled now.
	Right.
	They're going to live on the street.
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, I'm saying, see, the guy thinks the Illuminati is like, but Howard, where are they going to work?
	They're going to live in tent cities.
	They're going to live in Hoover.
	Okay, but we're saying super cities.
	We just mean cities with a lot of homeless people.
	Yeah, dummy.
	I don't mean super cities like they're fucking super, you fucking retard.
	Well, it's a weird either.
	They're mega cities.
	Go to Hong Kong.
	There's large underclasses in all of these cities.
	You just don't see them.
	They're in New York.
	People just don't see them.
	They don't see them.
	And they're going to, it's going to be more and more prevalent as time goes by.
	I'm telling you.
	Because also there's no services that come here for government services.
	We have more services here.
	California has more services.
	Don't they push everyone upstate?
	They tried.
	They will continue to maybe try.
	That was back, but still, there are still more services here than you're going to get in a rural part of the country.
	Why don't people just start farming again?
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	I mean, we used to be like, honestly, though, it's like it's you wonder.
	It's like the soil is going to be poisoned.
	But also Monsanto is just that people, people, a lot of them cannot farm.
	They're like not allowed to.
	There's all kinds of laws and regulations that prevent them from doing it.
	And nobody has those fucking skills.
	That's the weird thing.
	Well, I'm going to get that.
	It was a silly thing to say, but it's like the weird thing is you're watching this all happen, and there's no reason why it has to is my point.
	Like we have resources still.
	Well, no, no.
	We have a reason why.
	Because rich people want to take everything.
	That's why it's happening a lot.
	You know, they don't, they're not content with having $100 million.
	They want $100 billion.
	They're not content with, you know, this is the level of consolidation in these major industries, like media and finance.
	I mean, it's just wild.
	Look, I mean, we're acting pessimistic, but Trump might clean the swamp.
	Oh, yeah, he's going to drain the swamp.
	He's going to drain the swamp.
	None of it has to happen, but all of it's going to happen.
	It's going to happen for the same reason that your family, you could get along better with your family.
	But you don't.
	And it's your family.
	So the idea that a guy who's just been raised, you know, completely wealthy is going to give a fuck about somebody.
	It's just not going to happen.
	It just doesn't happen.
	You know, it's just not going to happen.
	And all people can really do at this point is get on a cam and start flicking their bean.
	Yeah.
	And hope to God.
	Hope to God that somebody's into that.
	Hope to God that you're a fetish.
	I would love to.
	Hopefully you're a fetish.
	Look, you have a bigger following now than we were doing.
	Yeah.
	I think we should start a website.
	I need your help.
	Maybe Ben could help with it.
	Yeah.
	I want to be a cam girl.
	I want you to be a cam girl.
	Listen, folks, the way out is being a fetish.
	The way out is going to be a fetish.
	I'll eat things that you tell me.
	A mukbang.
	A mukbang.
	Putting a roasted chicken in your ass.
	I'll wear a thong.
	That's going to be the way out.
	That's going to be the way out.
	I'll suck all sorts of dildos.
	You're going to have to do it all.
	You're going to be dressed up in Jeffree Star makeup.
	I would like to see you get a makeup tutorial.
	You should do makeup tutorials.
	You should get glamorous.
	We should glam you up.
	That would be great.
	When you come to LA, maybe we'll glam you up.
	Yeah.
	You'll be a real glamorous.
	I'll be a glamour pig.
	I mean, gender is dead.
	Everything's, it doesn't matter.
	Who gives a fuck what I got in my pants?
	It doesn't matter.
	Nobody.
	It doesn't matter.
	You're just going to be fucking glam.
	I mean, honestly, sex seems passe to this generation, doesn't it?
	Yeah, nobody's fucking.
	No one seems to want to fuck.
	Nobody's fucking.
	And I get it because I like fucking, but I could also, you know, if I had to, yeah, let's just fucking get glamorous.
	That's what it is, man.
	People are coming in different ways now.
	Yeah.
	You know, so much of it is just, you know, performative.
	Everything's performative.
	You just want other people to validate you.
	Sex is like, you know, it's earthy.
	It's like old school.
	You stick something in your nose and you start coming.
	It's fine.
	Yeah.
	You just, people want to be glamorous now.
	They just want to be, you know.
	And ass isn't even sexual anymore.
	It's just an affirmation.
	That lizzo thing?
	Yeah.
	It's just affirmation.
	It's just, that's not, no one's jerking off that big ass.
	I want you to put your lights in the sky.
	Those lights represent love.
	They represent the love that I want every inside of every single one of you.
	Okay.
	And I just want you to, I want you to tell me one thing.
	I want you to tell me why a bunch of Jewish art students were in the World Trade Center.
	They were bomb technicians for the Mason.
	They put bombs in those towers and they fell.
	Let's go.
	Why a man, Gray?
	Because it gotta be great.
	Thank you for listening, everybody.
	Please forward your complaints to my agent manager.
	I'm kidding.
	Where can people find you?
	Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Ray Cump.
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	There are going to be a YouTube presence probably.
	So 2020 is going to be big for the Cump universe.
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	We have just announced Austin, Texas.
	I'm going to be there in January.
	It's fucking great.
	I'm really excited about that.
	So if you are in Texas, I'm telling you right now, don't be stupid.
	Fucking go and come see me.
	January 15th through the 18th.
	I'm going to be at Cap City.
	Cap City.
	Cap City in Austin.
	It's one of my favorite clubs.
	Okay.
	Also, I'm going to be in January.
	I'm going to be at Magooby's in Maryland, right outside of Baltimore, Maryland.
	I'm going to be up in Toronto at a great theater.
	I'm going to be at the House of Comedy in Arizona.
	I'm going to be in Minneapolis.
	I mean, you just got to go to TimDylonComedy.com.
	All the dates are there.
	Grab the tickets.
	We have links to all of the places I'm going.
	It's easy to navigate.
	And yeah, like I said, if you are in a secret society or you were tapped to be in one and you didn't choose to be in one, very interesting.
	Or if you have a friend that was in one, DM me on Instagram or DM me on Twitter.
	And again, many of you will do this as a prank, but I don't care because I will find the real one.
	Doesn't matter.
	Many of you are going to be like, I wasn't.
	I would do it.
	You're fat.
	I know.
	We get it.
	It's a funny joke.
	It's a funny joke.
	Those guys aren't fucking us.
	We're not letting them fuck us.
	You're not fucking us.
	Only legit.
	Legit people that are in a secret society that want to tell us how it works and also want to sacrifice us.
	Let's keep the conversation open.
	Yeah.
	Let's keep it open.
	I have an agent manager.
	I will put you in contact with them if you want to sacrifice both me and Raymond.
	Put us on spikes and roast us like guinea pigs.
	I just want to feel something.
	100%.
	Goodbye.

Chapters

00:00:26 Trash Can Intro
00:15:16 Zucchini Fries Fight
00:17:43 Fraudulent Fashion Designer
00:19:55 Drag Queen Agenda
00:29:54 Politicized Identity Crisis
00:34:42 Mocking Dark Arguments
00:43:48 Soft Piano Moments
00:56:34 Wild Card Sacrifice
01:04:56 Human Contact Taste
01:09:23 Reality Show Manifestation
01:24:50 Tabloid Country Future
01:40:08 Mega City Warfare
01:43:16 Glamorous Cam Presence