Dark Journalist - Dark Journalist & Dr. Joseph Farrell JFK Assassination & UFO File Revealed! Aired: 2023-07-29 Duration: 01:33:48 === JFK Assassination and UFOs (14:56) === [00:00:00] Hello, everyone. [00:00:01] This is Dark Journalist. [00:00:02] Tonight, I have a special part two interview with Giza Death Star author and Oxford scholar Dr. Joseph Farrell. [00:00:08] Now, Dr. Farrell outlined the deep state forces behind the wall of secrecy in the UFO file and its connection to the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963. [00:00:19] Today, he'll go even deeper, revealing the fascist paperclip element in the assassination and the creation of the Central Intelligence Agency, and how that relates directly to the false CIA UFO disclosure happening in Congress. [00:00:32] Please join us. [00:00:33] Now. [00:00:50] We have been living with the repercussions of that coup d'etat ever since. [00:00:58] And if you want to know why America's a mess, November 22nd, 1963, that's why. [00:01:04] No question. [00:01:05] No question. [00:01:06] When you pointed out so many of the players there on the paperclip side, if you were to tell someone in a nutshell, basically, the best representation of the Nazi influence around the assassination, what would you point to? [00:01:27] Well, there are actually two different things. [00:01:30] The first one is the symbolism of the alleged assassination weapon. [00:01:38] Because originally the weapon reported by Walter Cronkite on CBS News was a Mauser. [00:01:47] That's right. [00:01:48] A 7.65 Mauser. [00:01:52] And then it's changed to a 6.5 Italian carbine. [00:01:58] Well, what's the symbolism? [00:02:02] Well, the symbolism is you've got two weapons of the two European Axis powers. [00:02:08] Right. [00:02:08] That seems to be a rather obvious one. [00:02:11] Yeah. [00:02:11] But the Mauser, the interesting thing about the Mauser, the caliber of the Mauser that was alleged, was that that was a version of the Mauser that was never used by the German army. [00:02:23] The German army used a much bigger caliber Mauser for their main rifles, like M1 Garand in the American army. [00:02:32] It was a honking big rifle. [00:02:36] That Mauser was a special edition Mauser that was produced for the Argentine army. [00:02:43] Oh, another symbol there. [00:02:45] Oh, wow. [00:02:45] Yeah, that's the post Nazi. [00:02:48] Yeah, you bet you did. [00:02:49] Yeah, you bet you did. [00:02:50] Juan Perón and all our. [00:02:52] Juan Perón, Evita, you know, that whole thing that you've got going down there in Patagonia. [00:03:00] That's Third Reich 2.0, right? [00:03:02] That's Third Reich 2.0 right there, folks. [00:03:05] Wow, that's fantastic, though. [00:03:06] It is. [00:03:07] It's incredibly symbolic. [00:03:08] Yeah, oh, absolutely. [00:03:10] The other thing, there is a little known book. [00:03:15] And I've mentioned this to you before in some of our chats. [00:03:18] I did not even reference this book in my JFK book, even though I did talk about the Nazis. [00:03:25] And the reason I didn't reference this book is number one, it's written as fiction. [00:03:30] And number two, it would have been too difficult to include in the book simply because I would have had to do so much explaining. [00:03:40] As to what's going on. [00:03:41] But the book was actually published in Great Britain. [00:03:45] And it was written by a man by the name of Mikhail Lebedev, a Russian. [00:03:52] And the book's title is Treason for My Daily Bread. [00:03:56] Oh, yes. [00:03:57] And it's a story about a Russian that was recruited during the Second World War, a Russian prisoner of war. [00:04:02] It was recruited by the Nazis and turned into a deep cover sleeper agent. [00:04:08] And he is tasked. [00:04:10] With being involved in the assassination of President Kennedy. [00:04:14] And he makes no bones about it that this was ultimately something that the Nazis themselves pulled off and were involved in. [00:04:23] Now, interestingly enough, at the time that I was made aware of that book, there was another book that had not yet appeared that was A Life of Colonel Skorzeny, Otto Skorzeny. [00:04:37] Right, yes. [00:04:38] When that book came out, in the book it mentions that he was somehow involved in the assassination and was in Texas during the assassination. [00:04:50] And I'm thinking, Otto Scortzani, you know, what was he doing? [00:04:54] Staying at George Bush's house, you know, who can't remember where he was or what he was doing. [00:05:01] One of the weirdest historical pieces of all time. [00:05:04] Oh, the guy's a liar. [00:05:06] I mean, come on. [00:05:09] I mean,. [00:05:10] The FBI makes a note. [00:05:11] Oh, a George Bush called and said there's going to be an assassination attempt again. [00:05:15] But it's not the same George Bush. [00:05:16] It's another George Bush. [00:05:18] Yeah. [00:05:20] Incredible. [00:05:22] Yeah, it's just nuts. [00:05:23] So Scorsese is there in Dallas. [00:05:26] According to this book, yeah. [00:05:28] Now, you know, Scorsese is a commando. [00:05:33] I mean, he does stuff like this for his living. [00:05:36] Right. [00:05:38] So it doesn't surprise me. [00:05:39] Then you had that book in. [00:05:43] That Robert Grodin, when he did his documentary on the assassination, got in charge of some lawyer for a Frenchman that maintained that a Jean Souletre, who was an assassin for the OAS, you know, the Organisation Aime Secrete in Algeria, came over and was one of the gunmen. [00:06:02] So, you know, you've got Algerian right wing French army officers. [00:06:07] Right, yeah. [00:06:09] Otto Scorsese. [00:06:11] Right, yeah. [00:06:12] Everyone's there. [00:06:13] Everyone's there. [00:06:14] So, my question is okay. [00:06:16] Who would be in a managerial position to be able to pull something like that together? [00:06:23] Right. [00:06:24] First name that pops into my numbskull is Alan Dulles. [00:06:29] Yeah. [00:06:30] Yes. [00:06:32] He was the one who had the background with the Nazis. [00:06:34] He's the one that had the background with the Nazis. [00:06:37] He certainly had contact with the Organization Armee Secret. [00:06:41] And he certainly knows the mob. [00:06:44] And it's General Galen's CIA, after all. [00:06:47] And it is General Galen's CIA. [00:06:49] Yeah. [00:06:51] They are, as far as on the ground human intelligence inside the Soviet Union, they are absolutely dependent on German intelligence at that point. [00:07:00] So, you know, and the Hunts, you know, the Texas oilman, Peter Dale Scott, made it abundantly clear that their private intelligence network was none other than the German BND. [00:07:11] So, you know, that's General Galen, folks. [00:07:17] I mean, it's absolutely amazing. [00:07:19] So, are there Nazi fingerprints on the assassin? [00:07:22] Well, yeah. [00:07:23] Yeah, absolutely. [00:07:24] Some rather large, muddy ones. [00:07:28] Everyone looked to H.L. Hunt, the oil billionaire, because for a number of reasons that he despised Kennedy and he represented this whole Texas oil men group. [00:07:42] Absolutely. [00:07:42] But the idea of him being connected in with that intelligence unit out of Germany opens things up rather well. [00:07:50] I think, as I recall, Professor Scott even mentioned that on the actual. [00:07:55] In the actual aftermath, the days following the assassination, Hunt and Merkison both hightailed it out of Texas and hid somewhere in northern Mexico. [00:08:05] And I'm thinking, okay, well, if they're hiding in northern Mexico, guess who has those safe houses at their disposal? [00:08:12] Oh, interesting. [00:08:15] Oh, that is really, yeah, unbelievable connections there. [00:08:19] Oh, yeah. [00:08:20] When you think about that. [00:08:22] The aspects of the assassination, here we are, 60 years this November. [00:08:30] It's still moving around with the weirdness of the files. [00:08:34] Yes. [00:08:34] There's no explanation. [00:08:37] And then you have moving in for the 54th anniversary, the moon landing here. [00:08:46] So we're right in the middle of all this. [00:08:49] And here we are in 2023 with UFO hearings with Phony Grush and all of his. [00:08:55] I saw, you know, I heard all about aliens and crash dead pilots. [00:09:00] And I didn't see any of it, but we're holding 12, you know, craft in these different hangars and stuff. [00:09:06] So, he's taking the real histories of things and he's just become this regurgitation machine where he's putting it all out there. [00:09:14] Schumer is saying, We're going to put this across and we're saying that it's just like the JFK Records Act. [00:09:19] We're going to get that UFO truth out. [00:09:22] So, when you look at this, it's a very strange situation to be in 60 years later around this. [00:09:28] And it suggests there was a massive secret that was kept at the time of the assassination that the deep state was trying to prevent Kennedy from revealing in the first place. [00:09:39] Yeah. [00:09:41] You know, it's particularly poignant for me because I was 66 years old. [00:09:52] Incredible. [00:09:53] And I was six years old when the assassination occurred. [00:09:58] And Daniel, it is as what happened that weekend, you know, what we went through in the Pharaoh household that weekend is as vividly imprinted on my mind now as it was then. [00:10:18] I can tell you for a certainty that what we were not thinking at that time, and particularly me, was that 60 years down the line, we would still be talking about this and no closer to a resolution than we were back then. [00:10:41] What we all knew back then was that what we had just witnessed, you know, it was Kennedy is assassinated on Friday. [00:10:51] Oswald was murdered on television. [00:10:55] I remember watching that as a boy. [00:10:57] Murdered on live television on the following Sunday. [00:11:02] So that whole weekend was just consumed with this. [00:11:11] And I even remember listening to Walter Cronkite quoting Victor Zorin. [00:11:20] The spokesman for Soviet Russia, you know, communist shill, you know, and all this stuff that Cronkite is saying. [00:11:26] Well, Victor Zorin was actually the former Soviet ambassador to the UN Security Council. [00:11:32] He was the guy that you see Adley Stevenson talking to during the Cuban Missile Crisis. [00:11:39] You know, don't wait for the translation, you know, just come right out. [00:11:43] Oh, right, right. [00:11:44] That's Victor Zorin. [00:11:45] Amazing. [00:11:47] And, you know, Zorin was right out of the gate. [00:11:50] I remember this vividly watching it on CBS News. [00:11:54] Zorin was right out of the gate. [00:11:55] Everybody who knows anything, and this is what he said everybody who knows anything about security around world leaders knows for a fact that Kennedy's security was inadequate. [00:12:06] He basically said right on TV that Kennedy's security was stripped from him. [00:12:11] Wow. [00:12:13] So, you know, I remember my dad smoking his pipe, listening to this, and grunting, You better damn well believe it was. [00:12:24] One of the few occasions I remember my dad agreeing with the Soviet diplomat. [00:12:28] But no, the whole weekend is, you know, it's like I can relive minute by minute. [00:12:35] And if you had told me back then that we would be no clearer or no further along back then than we are today, I probably would have disbelieved you. [00:12:49] But the fact remains, you know, as you're pointing out with Schumer and this, we need a UFO act like the JFK, that means they're still trying to cover something up. [00:12:59] And it's interesting now, there's an aspect to this. [00:13:03] That I think is obvious, but it's one of those obvious things that needs to be stated so that people really appreciate what's going on. [00:13:11] When Schumer comes out and says we need for UFOs a JFK assassination act, what he's really telling you is number one, the two things are connected, and number two, we need to tighten up the JFK records by putting them under the aegis of this UFO thing that we've also got to keep under lock and key. [00:13:33] That's what he's really saying. [00:13:35] Yeah. [00:13:36] Yeah, excellent point. [00:13:38] And he's the same guy who pointed out that Trump had gone against the CIA and you can't do that and they're going to get you, basically. [00:13:45] And he came out very blatantly. [00:13:47] Yeah, he did. [00:13:49] So this is somebody who likes to keep secrets, very much like Harry Reid did. [00:13:53] And the fact that he invoked Harry Reid, I thought, oh, this is interesting. [00:13:59] Yeah. [00:14:01] He's doing what a politician always does when they're signaling their obedience to the hidden directives of their real masters. [00:14:12] Right. [00:14:12] He's signaling his obeisance through choice references, symbolic references. [00:14:21] To the public, he's coming out and coming across as being fully on board with Dr. Greer and disclosure. [00:14:31] And I have some questions about that whole narrative, too. [00:14:35] But what he's appealing to is this public need for transparency and blah, blah, blah. [00:14:45] But in reality, what he's really signaling is we're going to put this even in a much stronger lockbox and we're going to bury it even deeper. [00:14:54] That's what he's so deep in the deep state, it'll never get out. === Fascist Italy's Secret Files (10:27) === [00:14:57] It'll never get out. [00:14:58] And you'll get this phony show and headlines, and News Nation, you know, will run away with the headlines. [00:15:05] And New York Times will say, oh, you know, there's crash retrievals and it'll just be a big dog and pony show forever, pretty much. [00:15:13] I'm waiting for them. [00:15:15] I don't put anything past these people. [00:15:17] What I'm waiting for them is to. [00:15:20] Claim to have recovered a living extraterrestrial and claim to have figured out how to communicate with him. [00:15:27] We're going to modify their voice and blot out their appearance and put them on faux news or CBS and have an interview with them. [00:15:38] He's going to come out and confess that, yeah, we're really all about trying to enslave you guys and we're ready to invade. [00:15:44] The fleet is coming and nothing you can do about it. [00:15:49] I'm just waiting for it. [00:15:51] I really am. [00:15:52] I don't put anything past these people. [00:15:55] Well, it's fascinating because the UFO threat aspect gives them emergency powers. [00:16:01] It gives them a cap launch. [00:16:03] Yeah. [00:16:04] And the infrastructure that they're putting in place through the hearings and through the arrow office, this is the infrastructure they need to implement. [00:16:11] Yeah. [00:16:12] And even if it's at this stage now, what they're trying to do, it's interesting to me, is, and this gets back to Professor Scott's work as it goes into the continuity of government aspect. [00:16:22] Ding, ding, ding. [00:16:23] When you get into COG, somehow, whenever there's a huge thing, including around the Kennedy assassination, any deep event, we've got COG personnel, which means there's some trial by fire that you go through when you're on that deep state team that has to do with working inside of the continuity of government program. [00:16:43] And it's interesting because when you hear those descriptions of people who've worked around it, you hear, oh, you know, you go a thousand feet down underground and everything there is like a mall, hotels, you know, casinos, and all the rest of it. [00:16:57] So, you think of that as the structure underground. [00:17:00] And then when you go a little bit further with the continuity of government program, you realize, oh, the major players that are involved aren't just in government. [00:17:09] Right. [00:17:10] One of the things that Scott pointed out is that the head of CBS News, for example, was in the COG team in the Kennedy era. [00:17:18] Yeah, Paley. [00:17:19] So, you know, when you think of it that way, you realize it is a media, intelligence, government, geopolitical piece, probably. [00:17:32] Even entertainment. [00:17:33] Oh, absolutely. [00:17:34] It has to. [00:17:35] You know, continuity of government for these people means you have to continue all the institutions of the culture. [00:17:44] Right. [00:17:45] That gives it its power of narrative. [00:17:50] That's right. [00:17:52] Yes. [00:17:52] The narrative is sacred. [00:17:55] And the narrative is sacred. [00:17:56] There's one crucial one that they've forgotten, and it's going to bite them in the you know what. [00:18:01] Oh, what is it? [00:18:03] The church. [00:18:04] Yes. [00:18:05] Yes. [00:18:06] Absolutely. [00:18:07] You know, this culture doesn't exist without it. [00:18:12] So, in other words, they've made plans for everything except that one thing that their secular blinders blind them to. [00:18:20] Interesting. [00:18:20] And it's that that's going to bite them and bite them hard. [00:18:25] Well, Joseph, here's an interesting little piece from Grush from the friendly CIA UFO whistleblower Grush. [00:18:37] He comes along and he says, I have proof. [00:18:39] I've seen proof of Mussolini covering up in Italy UFO crashes. [00:18:44] I wrote about it in Reich of the Black Sun in 2005. [00:18:47] Exactly. [00:18:48] Yes. [00:18:48] Right. [00:18:49] He probably read that and came out. [00:18:52] I even put the Italian documents in that book. [00:18:55] 2005. [00:18:56] Yes. [00:18:56] It's there. [00:18:57] It's there. [00:18:58] Yes. [00:18:59] But it's interesting. [00:19:00] Now, he is a smattering. [00:19:01] It's almost like they took every, you know, they took the Betty and Barney Hill story. [00:19:06] They took, You know, the story of the Malmstrom. [00:19:09] Yeah, they're here. [00:19:10] Exactly. [00:19:12] And they took this story. [00:19:13] But I found it interesting. [00:19:15] And I said to myself, I wonder if there isn't a little blackmail with the whole thing by saying, well, the Pope was involved with the cover up. [00:19:22] And so that's how we can get this involved. [00:19:24] You know, we can have the Vatican as part of it. [00:19:28] Yeah, there's nothing that's happening in Mussolini's Italy that Pius XII doesn't know about. [00:19:34] Yes. [00:19:38] And Pacelli, Pius XII, The interesting thing about him, like many popes of that area, he's nobody's fool. [00:19:51] You know, he's an extremely well educated man. [00:19:54] And in addition to that, the family that he comes from, the Pacellis, are Italian nobility. [00:20:01] You know, it's an old, old family. [00:20:03] And he was a prince, you know, literally in that family. [00:20:08] So the idea that Mussolini is going to have this super secret organization. [00:20:15] Of UFO stuff and keep it out of the whispering that goes on in the circles of power in Italy is nonsense. [00:20:24] The more interesting possibility for me, however, is that if you look at what Mussolini establishes as their UFO disc, he buries it as deeply as he can, of course. [00:20:42] But the fellow that he puts in charge of this is Guillermo Marconi. [00:20:49] And, you know, with the presence of someone like that in charge of this thing, I have to wonder two things, and they're very disparate things. [00:21:03] But I have to wonder is there, therefore, a connection to the UFO thing through Marconi defense system? [00:21:13] Oh, yeah. [00:21:15] You know, how much of what whatever fascist Italy knew, how much of that? [00:21:21] Got into the actual corporation that eventually has Marconi's name attached to it. [00:21:28] I, you know, you've got to wonder that. [00:21:31] The other thing that I have to wonder is that once Mussolini and Hitler signed the Axis Pact, what most people don't realize, I tried to bring this out in my book, The Third Way, is that Italy and Germany also agreed to an amalgamation of their patent law. [00:21:55] To make technology transfers between the two countries much easier. [00:22:00] Ah, yeah. [00:22:00] Now, this is significant because, of course, Italy is sitting on top of the University of Milan's patent for a nuclear reactor, you know, that Fermi builds in this country. [00:22:13] You know, he simply brings the whole patent with him and let's build it, you know. [00:22:18] But it's actually something that would easily have been viewed as a national security patent in fascist Italy. [00:22:27] So, you've got the potential for technology transfer here that I strongly suspect may have included as a component any secret files that the two countries had on the UFO. [00:22:42] Yeah, absolutely. [00:22:45] Absolutely. [00:22:46] Because you've got to remember, if you're following what I wrote about the Nazi bomb, there were always, for some reason, you know, there were always these Italian officers present at the tests. [00:22:59] Interesting. [00:23:00] And, you know, what I'm trying to point out is that fascist Italy has got something to do with the Nazi bomb that we're not being told. [00:23:08] And I can tell you what it is. [00:23:10] I don't even have to think about it. [00:23:12] The Germans were the ones that had difficulty with graphite moderators and reactors, they could never get the graphite to enough purity. [00:23:21] Italians didn't have that problem. [00:23:23] Interesting. [00:23:25] So, you know, it may have been Mussolini's Italy that made the whole thing practical for them. [00:23:30] Yeah. [00:23:31] Whoa. [00:23:32] And you got to remember, Mussolini, you know, Mussolini, the Italian Air Force, unlike the German Luftwaffe, did have several long range planes. [00:23:42] And the Italian Air Force was modifying these things to be able to get to the United States and back. [00:23:48] And the question is, what are they doing? [00:23:50] What are they doing that for? [00:23:52] Well, I can tell you what they're doing that for. [00:23:56] You know, it's interesting when you mentioned Pius XII, it reminded me that he is the person who inducted Frank Scully. [00:24:03] Yes. [00:24:04] Who wrote the first major flying saucer book into the order of St. Gregory? [00:24:09] Yep. [00:24:11] Which is highly. [00:24:11] I wonder why he would be doing that. [00:24:18] That's quite a crisscross, my goodness. [00:24:21] Well, again, if Pius XII is doing something like that, he's got a motivation for it, and it's not just to be Mr. Nice Guy. [00:24:31] And I'm not saying Pius XII is not a nice guy. [00:24:33] I'm not saying that. [00:24:34] I'm just saying that this man is a very carefully calculated guy. [00:24:39] I mean, if you've read anything about his life, I mean, it's calculation from the get go. [00:24:46] Incredible. [00:24:48] That UFO connection, deep. [00:24:50] Oh, very deep. [00:24:51] Yeah. [00:24:52] Very deep. [00:24:52] On the Italian side. [00:24:53] And it's interesting because all those proclamations by the popes in the early 2000s saying, oh, it's okay if there's aliens out there, there are space brothers, we're totally easy with that. [00:25:06] It doesn't change anything. [00:25:08] Those were weird. [00:25:12] They. [00:25:16] No one is asking a very important question there. === Benedict XVI Theological Hints (04:09) === [00:25:24] Because these statements by the popes, Benedict XVI and later Francis, but I think it was Benedict XVI that was really. [00:25:37] And coming from him, we have to remember this man was a very well trained. [00:25:47] Theologian, in terms of Roman Catholic dogma, he knew it backwards, forwards, in, out, upside down, and all the nitty gritty details. [00:25:59] When he comes out and says something like that, this means that somewhere within the bowels of the Roman Church, there has already been a theological study. [00:26:08] And I'm going to put it in terms of a question that your listeners are going to have to think about. [00:26:14] In the actual dogmatic formulations, the Fourth Ecumenical Council, this is a council that The Orthodox Church shares in common with the Roman Catholic Church because it's from a very early era, prior to the split between the two. [00:26:29] In the Fourth Ecumenical Council, the doctrine of the Incarnation in a nutshell is that the one hypostasis or person of Christ shares full and complete divine nature and human nature. [00:26:49] So, in other words, two natures in one person. [00:26:52] Now, the question. [00:26:54] For the theologian, is what does the term nature in this context mean? [00:27:02] Particularly human nature, what does that mean? [00:27:05] Thesis anthropici, what does that mean? [00:27:10] And the suspicion I have, in other words, how would you put that definition in terms of the taxonomy that a biologist would use in terms of The genus Homo or the species Homo sapiens sapiens. [00:27:33] To what then does the term nature actually refer in that context? [00:27:40] So, what Benedict XVI, I think, is telling everybody, and my suspicion is here that his reasoning would be very similar to mine, that these types of terms in theological doctrines are analogous. [00:27:59] To an X, Y, or Z in an algebraic equation. [00:28:04] They are placeholders meant to hold a place that are left undefined deliberately. [00:28:12] Oh. [00:28:13] And this is something that people have to understand. [00:28:15] Theological definitions are really, in many cases, full of placeholders that are left deliberately undefined for a reason. [00:28:26] And I suspect that Benedict XVI may have been thinking that we're dealing with such a case here. [00:28:34] Right. [00:28:35] And if that's the case, Then the meaning of the incarnation is that you are taking a nature that influences the entire genus, not simply one species within it. [00:28:52] And when you put it that way, it becomes truly cosmic. [00:28:56] Now, you know, you don't have to go very far to read in the church fathers that the doctrine is understood cosmologically. [00:29:04] So, Benedict XVI, I think, particularly when he's coming out and making these kinds of statements, That this is the way he's thinking. [00:29:14] Well, let's turn the clock back then to what you mentioned about Pius XII. [00:29:18] Why would Pius XII be honoring a man with a clear UFO connection? [00:29:23] Well, I think, you know, the Roman Curia is the oldest political chancery in continuous operation in the world by far. === Swift Moons and Sagan (08:30) === [00:29:33] So, you know, they take a very, very, very long view of things. [00:29:39] And, you know, you want to talk about narrative prep, they are centuries ahead. [00:29:45] Of everybody else. [00:29:46] Wow. [00:29:47] So you're dealing with a lot of narrative prep there, I think. [00:29:50] And it's very careful and very deliberate. [00:29:54] Wow. [00:29:55] That is fantastic. [00:29:57] And it's interesting, too, because the amount of information kept in the Vatican vaults on. [00:30:03] Oh. [00:30:04] Yeah. [00:30:05] And that's something that we just don't have any access to. [00:30:06] It's one of those stealth archives we know about. [00:30:11] Well, you mentioned the Vatican archives. [00:30:16] The interesting thing is, there's also a connection there to the hidden system of finance. [00:30:22] And I mentioned that in my books. [00:30:24] I pointed out that Eugene Cardinal Tisserand, at one point, the French cardinal, well known French cardinal, was in charge of the Vatican archives. [00:30:37] Well, he's the same cardinal, the very same cardinal, that was fingered by New York police being involved in a huge. [00:30:47] Securities forgery operation to the tune of $900 million in the 1970s. [00:30:55] Incredible. [00:30:56] It was Eugene Cardinal Tisseron's signature authorizing the creation of these fake bonds. [00:31:03] So, in other words, here we're dealing with a guy who's not only an archivist, but somehow is involved in all of that secret financial stuff that's swirling around the Vatican Bank at the time. [00:31:15] Oh, wow. [00:31:16] And, you know. [00:31:17] And again, if there's a cardinal within that particular time period, in that particular curial circumstance, that would have known about Pius XII and what he's really up to with Frank Scully, it would have been Eugene Cardinal Thieser. [00:31:34] Fast. [00:31:36] Yeah, it's endlessly interesting. [00:31:39] I wonder if he wasn't doing a kind of black market with the archives as well. [00:31:43] Yeah, he could very well have been. [00:31:46] Hey, I got some interesting collateral for you. [00:31:50] Hello, Richard Helms. [00:31:51] Yeah. [00:31:52] Yeah. [00:31:54] Can you read Gothic runic script from Scandinavia? [00:31:58] You know, stuff like that. [00:32:02] Yeah. [00:32:03] Who knows? [00:32:04] But I will ask. [00:32:07] Whenever I go back and I think about who has held this knowledge, I always get around to the mystery school side of it. [00:32:14] And you brought up something which I think is pure mystery school knowledge come out to the public, which is the Jonathan Swift story. [00:32:23] Can you tell that, Hannah? [00:32:25] Yeah. [00:32:27] I think I mentioned that in it was Covert Wars and Clash of Civilizations. [00:32:34] Exactly. [00:32:35] Fantastic book. [00:32:37] Jonathan Swift, you know, everybody knows him, the guy that wrote Gulliver's Travels, you know, British satirist. [00:32:44] Okay. [00:32:47] Which makes you kind of wonder about where is the satire here in Gulliver's Travels. [00:32:53] When he starts talking, he writes about the discovery of the two satellites of Mars. [00:33:02] I think this is like 1767, thereabouts. [00:33:07] And, um, He writes about the two satellites of Mars and he goes on to mention their orbital periods. [00:33:18] And there's a teensy, teensy weensy little problem here because it turns out that we don't discover the two satellites of Mars until about 100 years later. [00:33:33] Wow. [00:33:34] Yeah. [00:33:35] And it just so happens. [00:33:38] That they're more or less exactly where Swift said that they would be, and that their orbital periods are more or less exactly what he said they would be. [00:33:48] It's incredible. [00:33:49] Yeah. [00:33:50] And I'm thinking, okay, you're batting 1,000 here, Jonathan. [00:33:58] That's pretty good for being 100 years ahead of the curve. [00:34:02] You pointed out that Carl Sagan had tried, looked at this and, like, oh, I don't know. [00:34:06] Yeah, Carl Sagan. [00:34:07] Carl Sagan is the one that pointed this out. [00:34:10] And Carl Sagan, in turn, Only mentioned it because he's getting the information from a book published by a Russian astronomer by the name of Shakvili or something like that, in a book called Intelligent Life in the Universe that was published in the Soviet Union and that Sagan decided to take it upon himself to translate and publish in English without consulting the original Russian author. [00:34:39] Wow. [00:34:41] So, yeah, we've got Jonathan Swift discovering the two moons of Mars. [00:34:46] Before they're discovered. [00:34:48] And I'm thinking, okay, now wait a minute. [00:34:52] The problem, if you dig into astronomical history, is that the big mystery with regard to Phobos and Deimos, the Martian moons, is that the astronomers wonder why they were never discovered before they were discovered in the late 19th century. [00:35:17] And the reason they were, you know, they're mystified, it's kind of like, why did it take so long for us to make a laser? [00:35:24] The physics was there for it in the early 1930s. [00:35:27] Right. [00:35:28] You know, well, my answer is the Nazis did make a laser and they were using it for isotope enrichment. [00:35:35] Gee, that's what was going on. [00:35:39] So, anyway, the telescope technology in the 18th century during Swift's time would have been more than adequate. [00:35:49] For anyone to take a telescope, look at Mars, and say, Oh, this has got moons. [00:35:55] And that's actually what I think happened: is somebody in Great Britain had a telescope, they spotted the moons of Mars, and Swift learned about it and published it in terms of fiction because, for whatever reason, my suspicion is exactly like yours, there was a mystery school secret society occult, you know, BS going on in the background, and that for whatever reason, [00:36:23] it wasn't time to reveal their presence. [00:36:26] It's either that. [00:36:30] Or the other thing that the Russian astronomer, Slosvili or something, mentions as a possibility is that the reason that they weren't discovered in the 18th century is because they weren't there. [00:36:50] And someone parked them there in the 19th century and for whatever reason happened to park them. [00:37:01] In such a way that Jonathan Swift's orbital predictions were. [00:37:07] Wow. [00:37:07] Now that is really scary. [00:37:11] Yeah, that's some serious dark journalism right there. [00:37:15] That's some serious dark journalism right there. [00:37:20] Joseph, there's a weird piece in Steiner's work about how the mystery schools around the time of Pythagoras changed and switched Venus with Mercury. [00:37:37] In terms of the name of the planets, or? [00:37:40] Yeah, in terms of how they were identified by astronomy. [00:37:44] And astronomy picked up this switched version. [00:37:47] He never explains why they did it. [00:37:49] He said they did it for some occult purpose. [00:37:51] But have you ever heard of anything like that? [00:37:53] And what do you think of that? [00:37:56] In all honesty, no, I have not read it. [00:37:59] You'd have to send me the reference and let me see what he actually says. === Moon Occupation Physics (14:36) === [00:38:04] I've only read a couple of things of Steiner. [00:38:06] There is something very interesting if he's talking about Venus and Mercury. [00:38:13] That's what he said, that they were swinging. [00:38:16] Mercury, you know about the perihelion of Mercury and Einstein's prediction about the perihelion. [00:38:30] It's one of the things that falls out of general relativity, that the orbit of Mercury. [00:38:37] Was always a puzzlement to astronomers because it never fell out in Newtonian calculations. [00:38:45] It was always outside the margin of error if you were using purely Newtonian methods of calculation. [00:38:52] And what general relativity did was Einstein was able to look at these orbital eccentricities of Mercury and was able to say that these fall entirely within the predictive equations of general relativity. [00:39:08] Now, here's a noodle baker for you. [00:39:13] Okay? [00:39:15] And those of you who've been listening to me lately on my website will know exactly where I'm going with this. [00:39:26] What's the speed of gravity? [00:39:32] The reason why this is a significant question is that it takes exactly, you know, if nothing moves faster, if there's no interaction, Information transfer faster than the velocity of light. [00:39:48] Pace what people think falls out of general relativity. [00:39:56] It takes light approximately nine minutes to reach Earth from the sun. [00:40:04] Nine minutes. [00:40:07] But when you look at the orbit of the Earth, you're not calculating the Earth's position based on a speed of gravity that is. [00:40:18] As fast and no faster than the velocity of light, because that would mean that the Earth would be reacting to the position of the sun nine minutes ago, not where the sun actually is now. [00:40:35] All right. [00:40:37] Now, here's the problem. [00:40:38] And again, I'm really relying upon Dr. Tom Van Flandern. [00:40:43] We've talked about him before, you know, the comet guy. [00:40:48] The exploded planet guy. [00:40:50] Well, Van Flandern also had difficulties with general relativity in that no astronomer ever uses general relativity in this way to calculate the positions of stars and planets. [00:41:04] It doesn't work. [00:41:06] Interesting. [00:41:09] So, in other words, gravity itself, if it is traveling at a speed, because remember, in Newton's system, it's instantaneous, there's no velocity calculation at all. [00:41:25] You know, and people wonder why physics is a mess. [00:41:28] You know, you'd think they'd think of things like this when they're coming up with their equations. [00:41:37] But anyway, yeah, it's true. [00:41:40] No one is making their calculations in this fashion. [00:41:46] In fact, astronomers are still using the good old Newtonian method, which can also lead to some problems. [00:41:53] Okay. [00:41:55] So, in other words, what's the velocity of gravity? [00:41:57] Well, it would appear, if you're thinking in terms of Van Flanagan, that it's considerably faster than the velocity of light. [00:42:05] Wow. [00:42:06] Which would make sense then for how gigantic structures like the Milky Way galaxy are able to cohere and hold together. [00:42:16] There's something else operative that's not falling within these nice little Einsteinian boxes that we've been told we're supposed to think in. [00:42:27] And again, I'm making a hack out of Einstein. [00:42:31] He never said what I'm saying that public consumption of physics is made at stake. [00:42:38] But nonetheless, I'm just trying to get across some of these obvious things. [00:42:45] But these obvious things, again, are pointing to the fact that there's a whole physics that's completely off the books. [00:42:53] Oh, right. [00:42:55] Hidden system of finance. [00:42:57] Hidden system of physics, hidden, you know, all of the stuff that's hidden, and they want to keep it all to themselves. [00:43:03] And part of the reason is they haven't figured it all out yet. [00:43:09] They haven't a clue as to how all this hangs together or how it actually works. [00:43:14] Wow. [00:43:14] You know, you don't want to pick a fight with ET until you've figured that out. [00:43:19] That's incredible. [00:43:21] Yeah, fascinating. [00:43:23] I knew there was something in that piece about the Switch. [00:43:27] I said, This is weird. [00:43:28] I've never seen this. [00:43:29] Anywhere else, and you can kind of feel like there's some control of the narrative by the mid-summer. [00:43:35] They've got to have it. [00:43:36] Yeah. [00:43:37] Mercury made no sense. [00:43:39] And if you stop and think about it, well, if Mercury makes no sense, that's going to have an effect on Venus. [00:43:44] Now, why the switch? [00:43:46] There's got to be something else of not simply a physics nature, but it's got to be, in my thinking, it's got to be something occult. [00:43:57] There's a, my guess is, I'd have to, again, I'd have to read the Steiner, but my guess is there's some sort of symbolic reason that this was done. [00:44:10] And the other thing I'd want to know is when does Steiner think. [00:44:15] That occurred, and why does he say that it occurred? [00:44:20] Yes. [00:44:22] I have something lodged in my mind about Marduk restructuring or remeasuring the structure of the deep after a certain planet explodes. [00:44:35] Right. [00:44:37] Yeah. [00:44:37] Fascinating. [00:44:39] You know, was the switch because Mercury wasn't there before? [00:44:45] Or, you know, Exactly, what in the name of sense is that little? [00:44:50] I mean, you know, you look at the pictures of the surface of Mercury, and there's some strange stuff going on there, too. [00:44:57] What are you thinking of? [00:44:58] Well, there's clear anomalous stuff on the surface of Mercury. [00:45:02] And some of it, incidentally, lies right along the limb. [00:45:06] Interesting. [00:45:08] Yeah. [00:45:08] Mercury is kind of like the moon, it's got one face permanently toward the sun, which is hot, as you can imagine. [00:45:16] And then the other face is. [00:45:17] Cold, and then there's the limb line. [00:45:21] Fascinating. [00:45:22] Yeah. [00:45:23] That always has been the weirdness about the moon, which is that, hey, you know, permanent dark side of the moon over there. [00:45:30] Well, again, you know, somebody has to, you know, the moon is rotating just like the Earth on its axis, but it's rotating in such a fashion at such a speed that we only get to see one face of it. [00:45:43] 60% of the surface is permanently turned to our observation, even though it's rotating. [00:45:49] And the other we don't get to see. [00:45:51] So interesting. [00:45:52] Make that celestial mechanics work on the capture model or on, oh, it just came out of the Pacific Basin model. [00:46:03] Please make that celestial mechanics work. [00:46:08] And, you know, I'm with Isaac Newton here. [00:46:10] If you're going to try that, then the moon is the only thing that's going to give you a headache. [00:46:15] That is fascinating. [00:46:16] Can't be done. [00:46:18] There was a weird thing that came up when I was on the Alex Jones show. [00:46:23] And Alex got into some very interesting things. [00:46:26] I went on there a couple of times recently. [00:46:29] And during one of those, he was remembering being at this meeting, and Trump and Musk were talking about a project that Trump wanted on the dark side of the moon that Musk couldn't do for one reason or another. [00:46:44] Oh, wow. [00:46:44] And I thought to myself, isn't that interesting? [00:46:48] A project on the dark side of the moon that Trump wanted Musk, Elon Musk, to do? [00:46:53] Yes. [00:46:55] Holy cow. [00:46:56] Yeah, and Musk resisting it. [00:47:00] Holy cow. [00:47:01] Yeah. [00:47:02] And that's all he knew? [00:47:04] I mean, he didn't have any more details about what Trump wanted on the dark side of the moon? [00:47:09] Well, you know, it was interesting because Alex was kind of like, you know, I don't know how much I should say, but they were getting into it. [00:47:16] He was doing that kind of a thing. [00:47:17] But he said, I can tell you that it was taking place on the dark side of the moon and that Trump wanted Musk to set up his project there. [00:47:24] It was a super secret project. [00:47:25] Yeah. [00:47:26] So, you know, for what it's worth, that was. [00:47:29] Kind of interesting insight. [00:47:32] Well, it is interesting if you've looked at some of the pictures of stuff on the far side of the moon, I should say far side of the moon because it's not really dark. [00:47:44] There are some very interesting anomalies on the far side, not the least of which is an almost complete absence of the so called Maria, you know, the glazed seas that face planet Earth that we see. [00:48:02] It's, you know, the far side is almost completely nothing but craters. [00:48:07] Yeah. [00:48:08] With the exception of Silkovsky. [00:48:11] And if you look at Silkovsky, I defy anyone to look at that and not see a massively huge structure to it. [00:48:22] I mean, there hasn't even been an attempt to disguise it on anybody who's taken pictures. [00:48:28] United States, Soviet Union, China, no one's attempted to disguise it. [00:48:35] My suspicion is and has always been that if there is anyone occupying the moon, they're going to do it on the far side. [00:48:46] And I also have a sneaking suspicion that it's a perfect, you know, if I'm Donald Trump and I'm aware of all of this space stuff via Roy Cohn and JFK Jr., um, I'm thinking, okay, we need a permanent observation point that is completely and totally secret. [00:49:16] And what better place than the far side of the moon? [00:49:19] Oh, wow. [00:49:19] Because it'll be facing out pretty much all the time. [00:49:27] And we'll be able to keep a closer eye. [00:49:32] And I would, pardon me, got the hiccup suddenly. [00:49:36] I would imagine that. [00:49:38] That another part of it would be we need to put an optical telescope there. [00:49:46] Oh, right. [00:49:47] Yes. [00:49:47] I see that. [00:49:49] Yeah. [00:49:49] No atmospheric distortion. [00:49:52] So you can, you can, you know, if you can pull off something like that, you get a pretty good eye on what's out there without having to look through the atmosphere. [00:50:04] Yeah. [00:50:04] Joseph, what are the implications of ruins like what you were mentioning on the moon? [00:50:12] What does that tell us? [00:50:13] Well, it tells us, first of all, that the moon was occupied at one point. [00:50:19] It implies the possibility, as the Russians during the Soviet era came right out and said, you know, the moon is nothing but a spaceship. [00:50:27] Someone parked it there. [00:50:30] You know, the interesting thing about the Soviet Union was because of its materialistic atheism, it was able to entertain all of these hypotheses that would have been absolutely laughed out of court in a Western scientific journal. [00:50:44] Right. [00:50:45] But, you know, The Soviets can walk you through all the physics and say, now, does that make sense? [00:50:50] No, it doesn't make sense. [00:50:52] So, the only logical alternative is someone parked it there. [00:50:56] Amazing. [00:50:57] Yes. [00:50:58] If you're parking something that big in orbit around another planet that is not much bigger than what you're parking, then you've got to have some pretty sophisticated technology to do all this. [00:51:13] So, could they build structures there? [00:51:16] Yeah, sure. [00:51:17] So, it may also mean that the moon is still currently inhabited. [00:51:20] You know, we don't know, quite frankly. [00:51:23] Right. [00:51:24] And if you've got a bunch of stuff underground, we're not watching what's going on on the far side of the moon. [00:51:29] People could be coming and going. [00:51:31] They could have a regular airport up there with air traffic control. [00:51:35] Who knows? [00:51:36] Exactly. [00:51:36] Yeah. [00:51:37] We would never learn about it. [00:51:38] We would never learn about it because we'd have to put our probes up there. [00:51:42] Just look what the Chinese went through to get a probe to the far side of the moon and able to communicate back to Earth. [00:51:50] Yeah. [00:51:50] That's an enormously complicated engineering feat and they pulled it off. [00:51:56] Incredible. [00:51:57] Yeah. [00:51:57] Incredible. [00:51:59] So, If Trump is going to do something like that, I suspect that the other thing in his mind is, yeah, we've got a bunch of strange stuff up there. [00:52:10] And we need to go there and find out what it is and who put it there. [00:52:15] Yeah. [00:52:15] You know, the Blair cuspids. [00:52:16] I just did a blog that'll come out this week about the Blair cuspids. [00:52:21] Everybody knows this. [00:52:23] You can go look them up online. [00:52:25] And if people do, the thing I urge you to do is look at the shadows cast by these things. [00:52:34] Because the shadows cast by these things are regular. === Apollo Secrets and Cosmic War (12:17) === [00:52:40] There's not little jagged edges. [00:52:42] There are straight lines. [00:52:44] And in one case, the shadow looks like the shadow from an obelisk. [00:52:49] Fascinating. [00:52:49] And they're straight lines, and three of these things are in a little line themselves that you can see. [00:52:56] So, in other words, there's stuff up there we've known about for a very long time. [00:53:03] Yeah. [00:53:04] So, you know. [00:53:04] Yeah. [00:53:05] I think the implications are huge. [00:53:07] Oh, they're totally huge because obviously you've got this thing up there parked around this planet. [00:53:14] And if anybody parked it there, as I think is the only rational explanation once you're really honest with yourself, because the fission model makes no sense. [00:53:25] The capture model physically makes no sense because if it's captured as it comes into the gravity well of the Earth, it's going to zip by and then it's going to get. [00:53:36] Pulled back, and it's going to be in this elliptical orbit. [00:53:39] It's going to be doing this. [00:53:42] But it's not doing that. [00:53:43] It's going like this, which means that as it's coming into the gravity well of the Earth, someone is slowing the damn thing down. [00:53:53] They're putting on the brakes. [00:53:54] That's simple physics, folks. [00:53:59] That's all you need to think. [00:54:02] You think it's being artificially engineered? [00:54:06] On some level, the orbit itself, like I say, it's someone parked it there. [00:54:09] It's parallel parked. [00:54:11] Incredible. [00:54:12] You know, again, it would speed up as it's entering the gravity well of the Earth. [00:54:17] And then as it's pulling away, it would slow down. [00:54:20] And that would mean that the orbit's doing this. [00:54:24] Okay. [00:54:24] It's not doing that. [00:54:26] Right. [00:54:27] And if it's not doing that, the only explanation is someone put on the brake. [00:54:33] It's slowed down as it's entering Earth's orbit so that the capture. That occurs is perfectly circular. [00:54:40] And on top of that, it's positioned at exactly the right distance from the Earth so that it perfectly blots out the entire coronasphere of the sun during a solar eclipse. [00:54:53] And on top of that, it's rotating on its own axis so that only one face of that thing is showing to the surface of this planet at any one time. [00:55:03] It's remarkable. [00:55:05] Tell me how you do all of that if it's just a happenstance capture. [00:55:11] Got any good explanation? [00:55:12] No, I don't either. [00:55:13] Neither did Isaac Newton. [00:55:15] Neither did Isaac Asimov. [00:55:17] And the Soviets finally said, okay, well, then someone parked it there. [00:55:21] That was the last conclusion. [00:55:24] Yeah. [00:55:26] So, the Space Force then may have been for something far beyond what Trump was saying. [00:55:32] Of course. [00:55:33] What I'm telling you, Daniel, is by the time, I mean, I go back to Isaac Newton. [00:55:40] What did Newton say? [00:55:41] The moon is the only thing that gives me a headache. [00:55:44] Yeah. [00:55:45] Why? [00:55:45] Because he knows what it's doing there. [00:55:48] He knows that the only explanation for why it's there is someone parked it there. [00:55:53] Right. [00:55:54] And everybody, you know, just do the physics. [00:55:56] Everybody has known it since Newton. [00:55:59] Yeah. [00:56:00] And they're not talking about it. [00:56:02] Yeah. [00:56:03] Absolutely. [00:56:04] That's what's going on. [00:56:08] When this country decided in the 1950s to go to the moon, the first thing they did, the very first thing they did, is they did a top secret mapping of the surface of the moon visible to Earth using optical telescopes. [00:56:26] Top secret study. [00:56:28] Every last bit. [00:56:30] Of the surface of the moon was mapped with as much accuracy as we were capable of optically by telescopes here from Earth. [00:56:36] That study, incidentally, is still classified. [00:56:39] Oh. [00:56:40] Yeah. [00:56:41] Kawhi. [00:56:42] What year do you think that is? [00:56:44] That was in the 50s. [00:56:47] Still classified for what? [00:56:50] Well, maybe they were looking for good landing areas and interesting things that we could look at once we got up there. [00:56:59] That would be my gift. [00:57:00] That's a damn good reason. [00:57:02] There's the guy, I mean, there's the NASA employees who've been like, oh, yeah, there were all these, you know, things that we had to wipe out of the pictures. [00:57:09] I mean, they're on record. [00:57:10] They're career employees. [00:57:11] They're not likely to lie. [00:57:13] So that's just, you know. [00:57:15] Just look at Mars. [00:57:17] Yeah. [00:57:17] I mean, look at some of the stuff on the surface of that planet. [00:57:20] And I defy anybody to tell me that it doesn't look like it's a machine part of some sort. [00:57:26] Yes. [00:57:26] You know, I mean, it's all over the place. [00:57:29] Okay. [00:57:30] Well, if, you know, this. [00:57:32] Brings home the other reason I think all of this stuff is secret. [00:57:36] Because if you read the ancient texts in a certain way, the way I've attempted to do in some of my books, you come to the conclusion that all of this wars of the gods stuff, I don't care if you're Vedic or Greek or Roman or Australian, Aborigine, they've all got these tales, are real. [00:57:56] Yeah. [00:57:58] And if they're real, then whoever was doing the fighting back then, May still be out there. [00:58:06] That's your cosmic war. [00:58:08] That's my cosmic war. [00:58:09] It is. [00:58:10] That's a fantastic book and an incredible thesis, as it were. [00:58:14] Well, to me, this is all one story. [00:58:18] And it's the reason why so much space related stuff is so classified because they know all of this. [00:58:25] These aren't stupid people. [00:58:26] Yeah. [00:58:27] And they know that, okay, if there was a war, they may still be out there. [00:58:31] And if they're still out there, we have to watch our step because we don't know what they've got up their sleeves. [00:58:37] You know, in the last hundred thousand years or so. [00:58:42] And if we're good, maybe they won't notice us. [00:58:49] Then there's that whole quarantine thing, which oddly enough, Stanton Friedman was really into. [00:58:55] Yeah, I know he was. [00:58:59] I think he was on the ball there. [00:59:00] Oh, I think he was on the ball too. [00:59:02] Yeah. [00:59:03] You know, for one thing, he was Jewish and part of the esoteric tradition of Judaism. [00:59:10] It's very familiar with all of this stuff. [00:59:12] Yeah. [00:59:13] You know, so you've got that working in the background, and you can't, you know, I can go pull off in my patristics library, I can pull off people like Lactantius or Athenagoras, some of these very early apologists that are writing very glibly, you know, as if it's commonplace to them. [00:59:36] Oh, yeah, there's some giants here, and we've got stuff out there. [00:59:45] You have that wonderful Jeans, Giants, and Monsters book. [00:59:49] Yeah. [00:59:51] It's not new. [00:59:52] What's new is the post Enlightenment materialism that's infected the West so that we think all of this stuff is strange. [01:00:02] It's well known. [01:00:06] It's what you thought about it, not that you didn't think that it was possible. [01:00:16] It's well known. [01:00:18] So. [01:00:20] Yeah, I think the whole cosmic war, plus you've got the physics of the moon, to anybody with an ounce of common sense, especially when World War II rolls along and all of a sudden you've got all this strange stuff flying around the skies. [01:00:36] The Luftwaffe thinks it's the British, and the British think it's the Luftwaffe, and the Japanese think it's the Americans, and the Americans think it's the Japanese. [01:00:47] And it may have been all of the above, plus. [01:00:51] Yeah. [01:00:52] Yeah. [01:00:53] Right. [01:00:53] Thor is out there. [01:00:54] Thor is out there and he's slinging the hammer around. [01:01:01] You know, kind of early Space Force action. [01:01:04] Well, I think, Daniel, and I've argued this many times why did we send so many probes out into our solar system with little plaques saying we come in peace for all mankind? [01:01:18] Yeah. [01:01:18] And what I honestly think is that this was not simply a. [01:01:24] A nice kumbaya gesture, no goodwill. [01:01:28] No, this was a statement of legal intention. [01:01:33] Ah, we are not in violation of any of your treaties, right? [01:01:38] Right, absolutely. [01:01:40] Yeah, that's fascinating. [01:01:43] Uh, and it stands to reason, it really does. [01:01:46] It's absolutely incredible, Joseph. [01:01:49] I recently interviewed Walter Bosley and I asked him the question Do you think we went and did the Apollo mission before the Apollo mission? [01:01:57] And his answer was yes. [01:02:01] What do you think of this same question? [01:02:03] If I were to ask you the question, what do you think about Apollo since the moon landing? [01:02:07] Earlier? [01:02:08] Yes. [01:02:10] Well, let's put it this way I've personally had my doubts, but let's play devil's advocate. [01:02:17] Sure. [01:02:21] Name me one project. [01:02:27] In history, along the nature of Apollo, that has not had a secret beta test precursor. [01:02:40] Ah, yeah, excellent point. [01:02:44] Not one. [01:02:45] You've pointed this out about the discovery of America, in fact. [01:02:49] Right, right. [01:02:50] Yeah, Columbus's voyage was the public announcement voyage. [01:02:55] Did people know about the New World long before? [01:02:58] Sure, they did. [01:02:59] Absolutely. [01:02:59] They kept it secret. [01:03:02] In part, you know, Venice, you know, think of Venice. [01:03:05] Yeah, we know there's a lot of gold over there. [01:03:08] That's where we're getting all of our gold from. [01:03:10] That's why we are able to manipulate the bullion markets. [01:03:13] Got to keep that secret as long as we can. [01:03:17] You know, it's the same old game. [01:03:21] But in the case of Walter and Apollo, we had, I think it was at the 2014 Secret Space Program Conference, in fact. [01:03:32] And I remember having a discussion with Walter once we got into the motel about this. [01:03:38] Because, really, what do you need to get to the moon? [01:03:43] What would you need? [01:03:45] Well, you'd need a pressure hull. [01:03:48] Right. [01:03:49] You'd need something that allowed you to have a self contained little atmosphere in the vacuum of space. [01:03:57] And, you know, submarine technology by that time had advanced sufficiently to allow you to do that sort of thing. [01:04:05] So, that's not a problem. [01:04:07] You just got to get that pressure hull up there. [01:04:13] And you certainly have a primitive rocket technology at that time. [01:04:17] If you were able somehow to scale it up, you could do it. [01:04:21] And then, in addition to that, you've got all of this stuff that Walter has been talking about in connection with the airship mystery that there does appear to be some sort of weird, what we would consider advanced or exotic technology in connection with the airship mystery. [01:04:39] So, put it all together, you know, you've got the possibility, at least theoretically, of maybe pulling something like that off. [01:04:46] Fascinating. [01:04:47] Absolutely. [01:04:48] You know, so how long before Apollo would this have occurred? [01:04:52] I don't know. [01:04:54] You know, go back to Aubert. [01:04:56] We had help. === Harmonic Series Sound Theory (08:36) === [01:04:57] Right. [01:04:58] Well, help from who? [01:04:59] Help from where? [01:05:00] Help doing what? [01:05:01] You know? [01:05:03] And the Nazis, I guess, would be prime suspects for that early version. [01:05:08] Sure. [01:05:10] When you see back, speaking of this Nimza piece, when you look at Charles Delchow's paintings that depict the name Trump, Do you feel like there is a real predictive programming in that? [01:05:25] How do you feel about that? [01:05:28] I think, oh boy, oh, this is a can of worms. [01:05:34] I think it's possible. [01:05:36] Yeah. [01:05:37] The reason why, and I think I mentioned this in a previous conversation that we had, I mentioned it with Walter in an interview that we had. [01:05:49] I'm toying with an idea, a kind of a basic idea. [01:05:53] Conceptual idea that an event is composed of several elements. [01:06:05] It, by its nature, takes place at a certain time and in a certain spatial context and has certain elements going to comprise the event, whatever the event, you know, the assassination of Kennedy. [01:06:20] Well, you've got people involved, it takes place at a certain time, at a certain place, and so on. [01:06:25] So it's an event. [01:06:26] An event. [01:06:27] As such, if you were to mathematize an event, it would be a set of elements. [01:06:37] So let's look at the elements in a hypothetical event set as a fundamental in a harmonic series. [01:06:52] As such, any overtone of that fundamental is, so to speak, an echo of that event. [01:07:03] And therefore, if you hear quotations around here, if you hear an overtone of an event, you are more or less able to reconstruct the original fundamental tone or tone set of the event. [01:07:24] So, in other words, if you view time in this sense as a series of harmonics and And fundamentals, overtones, and fundamentals, then prediction becomes theoretically possible. [01:07:41] And if you are sufficiently advanced in your science of knowing what comprises an event set, you could be extremely detailed in your ability to reconstruct the fundamental. [01:07:57] So, in other words, do I think a predictive thing like Trump and the Delshow things is possible? [01:08:03] Yes. [01:08:04] What I'm trying to do is discover. [01:08:08] A mechanism by which that might be rendered possible. [01:08:15] Now, there are others that are going to be easier to talk about once the new book is out, but this idea of time as a harmonic is fundamental to it. [01:08:28] Here I go again, speaking in harmonic terms. [01:08:31] I think in harmonic terms because, you know, I'm a pipe organist, I grew up with it. [01:08:36] Right, right. [01:08:37] I grew up with it. [01:08:38] Yes. [01:08:38] So, you know, I think that way. [01:08:39] You know, all those knobs and buttons are just ways of playing around with the whole Gurdjieff system. [01:08:46] Yes. [01:08:47] All harmonics. [01:08:48] Harmer said Pythagoras, Mystery School, they kept the information through the tonal relationships. [01:08:54] Yeah. [01:08:55] Pythagoras, if you look, you know, I've been, if you've read my books where I talk about Pythagoras carefully, especially Microcosm and Medium in that second chapter in that book, I point out that if you're really paying attention to what Pythagoras is saying, What he's saying is something very close to the modern Western tempered system of music. [01:09:25] In other words, if you have the natural harmonic series that nature hands to you and you try to comprehend it at the piano keyboard, and for those of you listening who are not familiar with this, go listen to the first lecture of Leonard Bernstein at Harvard in 1973. [01:09:44] It's called The Unanswered Question. [01:09:46] And he will demonstrate this at the piano keyboard so that you can actually see and hear what he's talking about. [01:09:54] But in the natural harmonic series, if you approach it musically, you reach an overtone. [01:10:03] It's the fourth overtone above the fundamental that cannot be played on any modern keyboard instrument. [01:10:13] And the reason why is that that overtone lies in the crack. [01:10:17] Say you take the note C as your fundamental. [01:10:20] Then that overtone will lie in the crack between A natural and B flat. [01:10:27] And because of that, if you're dealing with the natural harmonic series, you can never change key in the middle of a piece of music. [01:10:39] You're locked in to one fundamental and its series of overtones. [01:10:46] What Pythagoras suggested was if you tweak the tuning. [01:10:55] Of that fundamental, or pardon me, that overtone either up or down a half step, you will create a system whereby all the harmonic series of every note will function as an overtone when every other note is the fundamental. [01:11:16] In other words, what that tuning allows you to do is it's the first unification in physics. [01:11:26] I'll repeat that. [01:11:28] It's the first unification in physics. [01:11:32] Interesting. [01:11:33] That's of cosmological significance. [01:11:38] Because if you were able to find a similar mathematical interval for the entire harmonic series, not just the audio series, but the optical series, you would have a key, so to speak. [01:11:57] A literal key, like in a keyboard instrument, that would be able to oscillate the entire harmonic series without having to be retuned. [01:12:09] Ah, that's the reason that the Pythagoreans guarded this secret so closely because they realized it. [01:12:18] You know, I wrote about this in Grid of the Gods. [01:12:22] This was a cosmic secret. [01:12:24] Once they had understood that the universe is presenting us with a puzzle to be solved. [01:12:32] And that by simply tweaking what's presented naturally, we can invent modern Western music. [01:12:39] Everybody from Palestrina to Bach to the Beatles has been using that system ever since. [01:12:46] And that was a secret of a mystery school that got released. [01:12:52] That is fascinating. [01:12:54] During the Renaissance. [01:12:55] Wow. [01:12:56] Incredible. [01:12:57] Incredible. [01:12:58] Now, take the same principle and extend it to the entire harmonic series. [01:13:03] Mm hmm. [01:13:04] Then you end up with the possibility not only of pipe organs, these massively powerful instruments able to literally grip a building and oscillate the entire range of human hearing. [01:13:20] The secret behind it may be a kind of sound. [01:13:25] Oh, yeah, absolutely. [01:13:26] Of course. [01:13:26] Yeah. [01:13:27] Yeah, absolutely. [01:13:28] I've been saying all along that it's oscillating electroacoustic waves. [01:13:33] Amazing. === Giza Death Star Publisher (03:21) === [01:13:34] Tesla. [01:13:36] Colorado Springs, Thomas Townsend Brown. [01:13:41] What are they all playing with? [01:13:42] Well, they're all playing with longitudinal waves. [01:13:45] What are longitudinal waves? [01:13:46] Well, sound is a longitudinal wave. [01:13:48] Right. [01:13:49] Yes. [01:13:51] Classic. [01:13:51] You're looking at a gigantic cosmological pipe organ. [01:13:55] Amazing. [01:13:57] And the Giza Death Star Revisited, that's the book that you just put out. [01:14:02] And it has that section. [01:14:04] Again, Tesla's in there. [01:14:06] Yes. [01:14:06] And you've expanded on it. [01:14:07] But wow, what an incredible ride. [01:14:09] The name of the new book, what is the name of the new book? [01:14:12] The new book is called The Demon in the Acre. [01:14:15] Right. [01:14:16] And the subtitle is Plasmas, Patristics, Pyramids, and Demons, or something like that. [01:14:24] Two things on that. [01:14:26] One is when is it available? [01:14:28] September 2nd. [01:14:29] September 2nd. [01:14:30] That's what I've been told. [01:14:31] Okay. [01:14:32] And Joseph, in a nutshell, what's in it? [01:14:35] All right. [01:14:38] In the original Giza Death Star book, When I first sent it out, I didn't send it out to Adventures Unlimited. [01:14:44] I actually sent it to a different publisher. [01:14:47] And as you know, I like epigraphs at the beginning of my chapters. [01:14:54] Right. [01:14:54] Well, in the original version of the Giza Death Star that I sent out to a completely different publisher, I had an epigraph of Zechariah Sitchin in the original book. [01:15:05] And as the publisher that I sent it to was considering whether or not to take the book, it took them three months to make up their mind. [01:15:14] I continued crunching numbers. [01:15:18] And the publisher sent the book back to me, rejected the book, and I thought, good, because I can put all this new stuff in it, and I can take that original epigraph of Zechariah Sitchin out, because I thought, no, if we put that in there, I'm going to have to explain it. [01:15:31] And it's so out there, I don't even want to go there. [01:15:36] I've got my hands full as it is. [01:15:39] So I removed the epigraph from the book. [01:15:43] When I decided to redo the original three books and kind of put them in a Neater order and I hope clearer arrangement. [01:15:55] I decided to restore that lost epigraph of Zechariah Sitchin in Giza Death Star Revisited because it touches upon a subject in modern physics that at the time the original books were written, I didn't want to tackle because I was already dealing with a nutty hypothesis. [01:16:24] To begin with, I didn't want to make it even nuttier. [01:16:28] And that literally was my reasoning. [01:16:31] I restored it because someone else has come out with a book dealing with the nutty aspects of the nutty hypothesis. [01:16:38] So I don't have to do that. [01:16:40] I can simply refer to the other book and then say, oh, and in addition to what he's saying, here we've got all this. [01:16:48] It sounds absolutely like the kind of cherry on top of the entire Giza Death Star series. === King Chamber Microwave Lens (04:50) === [01:16:56] It's a cherry on quite a big Sunday. [01:16:59] Yeah, it really is. [01:17:01] But I don't, you know, again, I don't want to talk about it because people have to read it. [01:17:05] And then we're going to go back and we're going to go all the way back to Michael Faraday and 19th century luminiferous ether and James Clerk Maxwell and Tom Newton and scalar physics and hyperdimensional physics and atom bombs and hydrogen bombs and their connection there too. [01:17:29] All of it. [01:17:31] Did you use it? [01:17:31] It's going to be tied up in a neat little package, and it's going to. [01:17:35] I hope it blows people's minds because once you understand the implications, then you'll understand that these nutcases that we have in Swampington, D.C., are indeed literally playing with fire. [01:17:47] And I don't mean thermonuclear. [01:17:49] I mean something much, much, much, much bigger by several orders of magnitude. [01:17:57] Incredible. [01:17:59] Wow. [01:17:59] Well, everyone wants to. [01:18:02] Get their hands on this come the fall. [01:18:04] The thing I want to. [01:18:05] It's available for pre order now. [01:18:07] Oh, great. [01:18:08] Great. [01:18:08] Because of Deathstar.com. [01:18:10] You know, the significance of the empty sarcophagus in the King's Chamber. [01:18:17] What do you think is going on there? [01:18:19] Because that's not a tomb. [01:18:21] No. [01:18:22] No, I think Chris Dunn has it absolutely correct that it's an optical cavity for what was probably a maser. [01:18:32] In other words, you know, you think of. [01:18:36] The optical cavity for a ruby laser being a little artificial ruby crystal. [01:18:41] Well, that's what the sarcophagus is. [01:18:45] If you look at the ends of it, you know, on the long end, the end, each end is slightly concave. [01:18:53] So, in other words, it's lensed. [01:18:56] Yeah. [01:18:57] And, you know, that would be the perfect sort of thing for a microwave. [01:19:01] And there are other, if you read Dunn's work very carefully, he points out that the air shafts that come into the King's Chamber, that they both have what appear to be microwave horn antennas. [01:19:14] I mean, the resemblance between. [01:19:16] Between what's in the king's chamber and the pyramid and an actual microwave horn antenna is creepy. [01:19:23] That's wild. [01:19:24] Yeah. [01:19:24] Yeah, the whole structure is just wild. [01:19:29] Do you think there could be anything about resurrection in that pyramid, the Great Pyramid? [01:19:39] Possibly, but in a kind of, in a kind of, humans are going to misunderstand the physics of this sort of way. [01:19:50] Because if you're dealing again with time and events as harmonics in nature, then an overtone or a harmonic of a fundamental could be misconstrued as a resurrection, or for that matter, misconstrued as a reincarnation. [01:20:13] And they're not. [01:20:17] Interesting. [01:20:18] That sounds incredible. [01:20:20] Yeah. [01:20:21] I can't wait to get my hands on this one. [01:20:23] Well, you can go online and pre order. [01:20:25] You'll see the cover of the book. [01:20:28] It's not a long book, it's only about 150 pages long. [01:20:31] And I've written it deliberately in such a way as to suggest connections for people to follow. [01:20:38] Whether people will follow out exactly the way I do remains to be seen. [01:20:47] People will probably come up with some of their own plausible explanations. [01:20:52] I wanted to write it that way because. [01:20:54] The implications to me are so sweeping. [01:20:57] But I do plan, and I've said this to my own members, that once the book is out, I do plan to do a webinar on my website spelling out explicitly why I think the hypothesis that someone else wrote a book about is so sweeping in its implications. [01:21:18] It applies to everything that you and I have ever talked about without any fancy footwork. [01:21:28] It's crystal clear. [01:21:29] When I say ether, Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell, scalar physics, biophysics, mystery schools, all of it. [01:21:41] Yeah, this is a great unifier. [01:21:43] Absolutely fascinating. === 2024 Election Decent Man (06:31) === [01:21:46] Joseph, before we leave, the 2024 election is coming up. [01:21:51] We got the UFO file. [01:21:52] You shank. [01:21:56] The UFO file, the JFK file, 60th anniversary. [01:22:00] You've got Trump under indictment from every which way the deep state can get him, but he's leading heavily on the Republican side. [01:22:09] And he's leading versus the Democrat Biden by about six or seven points, which is pretty remarkable considering the hit job that he's been taking. [01:22:22] You've got RFK Jr. in the middle of all this bringing transparency around COVID. [01:22:27] He's actually talking about the UFO file now. [01:22:29] Yeah, I know he is. [01:22:31] So, this is getting very interesting. [01:22:33] What are we heading into for 2024? [01:22:36] Chaos. [01:22:38] I honestly, you know, I'm one of those. [01:22:41] I'm kind of with Lieutenant Colonel McGregor here that, you know, we may not have an election. [01:22:48] Yeah, this was an unusual statement on his part. [01:22:51] Well, you know, it's either that or I think the potential for massive fraud is there again. [01:22:59] Yeah. [01:23:01] But by the same token, I'm thinking fraud or not, they may have so pissed everybody off that the turnout is so overwhelmingly against this. [01:23:13] Alleged president and his criminal family. [01:23:18] I don't know. [01:23:20] I don't know how to predict this. [01:23:22] And, you know, it may be that Trump does something that is such a gaffe that even for him, people can't ignore it. [01:23:30] Or it may be that DeSantis pulls his thumb out and gets his act together, or that Biden is removed physically from office or collapsed into the shambling idiocy that he really is. [01:23:46] I don't know. [01:23:47] You know, this one is hard to call. [01:23:50] RFK Jr. [01:23:57] I dearly, dearly wish that he would end up somehow being the Democratic nominee. [01:24:04] Yeah. [01:24:05] Because if for no other reason that he is not the run of the mill Democrat that we've been watching ever since, well, really, Jimmy Carter, and I'm not saying that Carter, I happen to disagree completely with Carter. [01:24:21] But I liked the man. [01:24:23] Yeah. [01:24:23] Oh, yeah. [01:24:24] You know, he was a decent man. [01:24:26] Yeah. [01:24:27] And it's time that we had a Democratic presidential candidate who's a decent man. [01:24:33] You know, I'm sorry, but Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and this turd in the punch bowl. [01:24:43] No, these are not decent people. [01:24:45] Yeah. [01:24:46] So, you know, I would like a decent man for at least on one of the party tickets. [01:24:52] I know, right. [01:24:52] Yeah. [01:24:53] Jesus. [01:24:54] Give us one. [01:24:55] You know, we'll take that. [01:24:59] It's been a long time. [01:25:00] It's been a long, long time since we've had a decent man on one of the two party tickets. [01:25:07] I can't think of the last time. [01:25:08] But, you know, if you think that they can't get Biden over the finish line, do you think, well, where would you place the percentages of the SCOG style event? [01:25:21] Do you know what I think of Biden and the finish line? [01:25:26] I can't get that image from Weekend at Bernie's. [01:25:31] Exactly. [01:25:33] Where they're dragging Bernie's corpse behind them on the speedboat as they're racing through the canal. [01:25:42] And every now and then Bernie hits a buoy and you hear the clang. [01:25:50] And this is what I think of Joe Biden and the finish line. [01:25:55] It's like watching Weekend at Bernie's. [01:26:01] Is the man live or Memorex? [01:26:03] I mean, is he really alive? [01:26:06] Is it even Joe Biden? [01:26:07] We don't know. [01:26:08] I know, right? [01:26:12] I don't know. [01:26:15] The only reason I can think of them wanting to get that creep across the finish line again is they want to keep ruling from behind the scenes. [01:26:24] Right. [01:26:26] And they can't. [01:26:28] No one wants cackling Kamala. [01:26:31] I mean, she is. [01:26:36] She's just insufferably stupid. [01:26:39] There's no other word for it. [01:26:40] Yes, no question about it. [01:26:43] Bless her heart, she tries hard. [01:26:45] It's incredible. [01:26:46] Yeah. [01:26:47] How did she ever get through law school? [01:26:49] I don't care. [01:26:51] Listen, you know who I'm referring to. [01:26:54] I'm not going to mention by name. [01:26:58] I have read other people's notes that they've sent to me to cobble together into some sort of decent prose for a book. [01:27:05] Yes. [01:27:08] With Kamala, Daniel, all I can think of is whoever. [01:27:13] Got through law school, it wasn't her. [01:27:15] It was somebody shilling for her. [01:27:18] Yeah. [01:27:20] Yes. [01:27:22] Someone showed up for the moot court and played her. [01:27:29] Boy, that's really true. [01:27:30] Yeah. [01:27:31] Yeah. [01:27:32] I mean, can I imagine this woman as a counselor in a courtroom? [01:27:36] No. [01:27:38] No, I can't. [01:27:39] I'm sorry, Your Honor. [01:27:43] I don't really know what a writ is. [01:27:47] Take the word law, for example. [01:27:48] Three letters. [01:27:48] Take the word law. [01:27:50] Yeah. [01:27:51] We have three letters here. [01:27:56] No. [01:27:56] And that's with coaching. [01:27:57] Jeez. [01:27:58] And that's with coaching. [01:28:00] I mean, this woman is, I feel bad for her because she's just insufferably stupid. [01:28:07] Oh, yeah. [01:28:09] You know, she's been promoted all the way to the top because she is stupid. [01:28:16] There's the connection there. === Howard Hunt Watergate COG (05:29) === [01:28:18] Yeah. [01:28:19] It's just, I don't know. [01:28:21] I don't know what these people are up to. [01:28:24] I just honestly don't. [01:28:27] All I can say, Daniel, is that when they decided to put in Biden and Joe via monumental election fraud, and yeah, folks, I'm an adherent to that interpretation of things. [01:28:47] They definitely, yeah, it's kind of hard statistic. [01:28:51] I mean, if you have an ounce of Statistical common sense, you'll know that the idea 81 million votes, which just magically appeared in the four days that we extended the count. [01:29:05] Well, random sampling doesn't do that, folks. [01:29:09] It's that simple. [01:29:11] But I don't know, Daniel. [01:29:16] This is a hard one to call. [01:29:19] There's not an election like it. [01:29:23] Yes, absolutely. [01:29:26] I mean, never been anything like it. [01:29:28] No, no, never. [01:29:31] You know, this election has the potential to, you know, the last time we faced an election with national consequences like this was the election of 1860. [01:29:44] Yeah. [01:29:45] And say what you will about that, you at least know where people stood. [01:29:53] Absolutely. [01:29:54] Yes. [01:29:56] This one, no. [01:29:59] This is the wildest ride. [01:30:01] It's unbelievable. [01:30:03] Yeah. [01:30:03] And I think there could be a COG component to it. [01:30:06] Oh, absolutely. [01:30:07] You think so? [01:30:08] Oh, yes, absolutely. [01:30:10] Yeah. [01:30:12] How do you transition from this train wreck of an administration without it? [01:30:19] I mean, put the question that way. [01:30:21] How do you get from this administration, pardon me, to whatever it is that's going to follow it without COG? [01:30:30] You don't. [01:30:33] This has been such a disaster. [01:30:36] You can't do it. [01:30:39] Unbelievable. [01:30:40] Well, we're going to see where it all heads, but we already have heavy duty indications on the wall. [01:30:46] Oh, yeah. [01:30:48] So, with any luck, we'll have a front row seat to the whole thing. [01:30:54] Oh, you know, we're, in my opinion, Daniel, we're well past the Harper's Ferry 2.0 moment. [01:31:04] Amazing. [01:31:07] I really think we're headed for a crack up, COG or no COG. [01:31:10] Mm hmm. [01:31:12] Because there's only so many dirty tricks that you can keep pulling and before society collapses. [01:31:18] And my biggest fear is that we're looking at that. [01:31:21] When I said earlier that we're living through the collapse of the Soviet Union, we are. [01:31:27] Oh, yes. [01:31:27] No, I totally agree. [01:31:29] Joseph, absolutely amazing and great to have you here. [01:31:34] Thank you, sir. [01:31:35] And we're all looking forward to the new book in the meantime Giza Death Star Revisited and GizaDeathStar.com. [01:31:42] It's all there or Adventures Unlimited Press. [01:31:45] And before we go here, let's watch the testimony of Watergate lawyer Douglas Caddy on E. Howard Hunt's CIA confession of JFK being assassinated over the UFO file. [01:32:00] E. Howard Hunt, the CIA super spy, best known as the coordinator of the Watergate burglars, revealed to his close friend and attorney for the Watergate 7, Douglas Caddy, the nature of the desperate struggle between JFK and the CIA over the UFO file. [01:32:15] Caddy revealed to me what Hunt told him in this interview. [01:32:20] And then we walked out, and on the street there, I thought, well, this is the last time I'll see Howard. [01:32:25] I'm going to make one more stab, okay, at seeing if I can get something here, you know. [01:32:30] And I said, well, Howard, why was John Kennedy assassinated? [01:32:35] He said, why was John Kennedy assassinated? [01:32:38] He said, John Kennedy was assassinated because he was about to give our most vital secret to the Soviets. [01:32:45] About to give our most vital secret to the Soviets. [01:32:49] And I was stunned by that. [01:32:50] I mean, John Kennedy, our president, Soviets, and the I never even thought about, heard about such a thing. [01:32:57] And I said, Well, what was that? [01:32:58] And at that point, he leaned forward and looked right in my eyes, direct in my eyes, and he said, The alien presence. [01:33:06] And he reached out and shook my hand and then turned and walked away. [01:33:10] And that was the last time I saw Howard Hunt. [01:33:13] It didn't mean that much to me. [01:33:14] I knew it was important, but it did not mean that much. [01:33:16] There's no way I could, in the alien presence, I was not really familiar with that either, you know. [01:33:22] But I remembered it, I knew it was important. [01:33:24] This breakthrough revelation from a top CIA officer to his friend in private gives us the real mandate of X Protect. [01:33:32] Any official, even the president, who wants to reveal the true nature of the X technology in the UFO file must be eliminated. [01:33:40] They've used this protocol for decades, but their attempts to conceal their actions have at times taken an unexpected turn.