Dark Journalist - Dark Journalist X-150: JFK Blue Secret Space Program UFO File
Aired: 2023-05-27
Duration: 03:26:40


=== Blue UFOs and JFK Mysteries (04:19) ===

[00:00:04]  And we are live.
[00:00:05]  This is Dark Journalists.
[00:00:07]  What a fantastic crowd we have out there in the ideas from already.
[00:00:11]  Of course, tonight I am joined by the lovely Olivia.
[00:00:14]  Hi, everybody.
[00:00:15]  And Olivia, it looks like it's, well, it's UFO time.
[00:00:21]  And this is Blue UFO or the Blue Secret Space Program and JFK and the UFO file mystery.
[00:00:27]  These pieces for our 150th X Series episode are going to come together seamlessly tonight and bring kind of as much of that vision that we've been laying out.
[00:00:37]  In relation to this story.
[00:00:40]  And that's all going to come together tonight because we're going to piece together some of those crucial threads that we've been working on.
[00:00:47]  It's so interesting when you reflect on the episodes that we have done because the world now, you know, when we started off with this series, the world is starting to catch up.
[00:01:01]  And it's interesting to see how many things that we've been putting out there from the series have been picked up, and a lot of people have run in this and that direction with it.
[00:01:10]  On the UFO file side, we've seen a lot of poor developments in relation to the CIA and marketing ops and all this kind of thing that we just have to put up with.
[00:01:21]  We're right in the middle of one right now, and I'm going to talk about that one tonight also.
[00:01:25]  But tonight is JFK Blue Secret Space Program, UFO file mystery.
[00:01:30]  This is X Series 150, yes.
[00:01:33]  Made it to 150 episodes.
[00:01:36]  Technically, of the X Series, there's 198.
[00:01:40]  Episodes.
[00:01:40]  Isn't that interesting?
[00:01:41]  That means there are a lot of part twos and supplementary episodes on top of that.
[00:01:45]  And then besides that, 250 episodes of The Dark Journalist Show.
[00:01:50]  So that's a lot of material for everyone.
[00:01:54]  And it's great to have worked with everyone over the course of these episodes there in the ideas room to put these ideas together because, of course, we couldn't do it without you.
[00:02:05]  Now, tonight is special because threading together this narrative of the blue.
[00:02:12]  Which is the name that's used, the code name that's used for the Secret Space Program in classified circles, has been maybe about three and a half years in the making.
[00:02:22]  And I think since I first started doing this work, we've been on the Secret Space Program part because it's crucial.
[00:02:30]  But in fact, the Secret Space Program and the way that they've maneuvered it is very much like ex steganography, where they've moved it through different government agencies.
[00:02:42]  And in order to do that, they need code words and a steganography to communicate with each other without giving the whole game away.
[00:02:50]  And there's been a lot of different candidates for the naming mechanisms that they've used.
[00:02:56]  But Blue came out over and over again.
[00:02:59]  As a matter of fact, I found 380 classified references to it.
[00:03:04]  And once you thread those together with some of the public offerings in the space, like Blue Origin, SpaceX, and all the rest of it, we're deep, deep in that side of it.
[00:03:13]  So tonight we go deep on the technology.
[00:03:16]  This is a two part episode.
[00:03:17]  So tonight we'll do part one, and next Friday we'll do part two.
[00:03:22]  I think the idea of doing them all in one shot just is a little hard, I think, for everyone to process on this.
[00:03:31]  Blue gets us into interesting territory because you're dealing with all sorts of representations there.
[00:03:41]  So it's very hard to step between what they would actually be referring to.
[00:03:46]  But when you drill down, I'm going to present some documents tonight that are going to open up the whole idea of what a classified space program is all about, why they've done it in this fashion, and who is holding that information back as we get into it here tonight.
[00:04:01]  Of course, I'm going to take questions in the second half of tonight's program.
[00:04:05]  Before we go any further, I want to remind everyone, especially if you're new here, to go to darkjournalist.com and sign up for our free newsletter because that keeps us in touch regardless of what's going on, especially with the incredible censorship that we've been seeing and been in the middle of here for quite a while.

=== Election Year Secrets Revealed (05:55) ===

[00:04:23]  But it's particularly ramped up and leading into an election year.
[00:04:27]  They're just going bonkers, mostly against RFK Jr.
[00:04:32]  And he comes up tonight.
[00:04:34]  And of course, the Trump censorship is just always off the charts.
[00:04:37]  So we're used to that one.
[00:04:39]  But Bobby is a particular flavor.
[00:04:41]  And I'm starting to think that Bobby is more public enemy number one, even than Trump at this point.
[00:04:47]  And I'm going to explain why as well.
[00:04:50]  And the UFO file threaded right in the middle of the 2024 election.
[00:04:56]  Can you get any more sort of a buildup in terms of an election year?
[00:05:02]  Actually, that bit about the election.
[00:05:06]  And this is really interesting because I've been saying the people who are in the race now.
[00:05:13]  Actually, before I jump into this, how's the temperature out there?
[00:05:16]  Good.
[00:05:16]  I do have one question.
[00:05:18]  Sure.
[00:05:18]  If you want it.
[00:05:19]  Joaquin Carica says Since Trump was so serious about not being able to drop the JFK files in conversation with Napolitano, what changes?
[00:05:28]  Why is he okay with doing it now?
[00:05:29]  And Karen Carpenter said Trump could have, should have, would have done a lot of things but didn't.
[00:05:34]  Why would he this time around?
[00:05:38]  Yeah, it's interesting.
[00:05:38]  I mean, he did some things.
[00:05:42]  And he got us out of the WHO, for example.
[00:05:44]  You know, there's this big battle over if the WHO does this pandemic treaty, then they can come in with UN troops into the US.
[00:05:52]  That's the craziness of belonging to the WHO and giving them money, the World Health Organization.
[00:05:57]  Absolute insanity.
[00:05:58]  There should be an entire reform of the relationship of the United States to these entities.
[00:06:05]  And Trump got us out of the WHO.
[00:06:09]  So, you know, I'm up more at this point for giving Trump credit for the things that he did, because when you compare him or contrast him with Biden, it's like night and day, because Stepford Biden is so in the grip of the neocons, is so in the grip of the globalists, and is just a mindless puppet in the middle of that being run by committee.
[00:06:30]  And so the situation is incredibly dangerous.
[00:06:33]  For us to have arrived at this point in the 21st century is astonishing.
[00:06:40]  And it's an incredible throwback.
[00:06:41]  You know, you wonder, like, why did we go all through all these things as a nation?
[00:06:45]  And if you review the history, you go back to the 50s and the civil rights movement in Vietnam and all these things and the self help movement and, you know, Desert Storm, 9 11, all this, just to get to this point, you know, where we're basically dogging another nuclear power over Ukraine and getting a lot of people and soldiers killed in Ukraine for nothing.
[00:07:08]  So, you know, we've gone tremendously off course.
[00:07:12]  The only thing that can save, The future is either an RFK Jr. presidency or a Trump presidency, in my opinion, on that leadership level.
[00:07:21]  Now, of course, we, the people, can do it.
[00:07:24]  But I think of the body politic, you know, there's a lot of talk around independent media saying, well, you know, forget about that.
[00:07:32]  Doesn't matter who the president is, they're interchangeable.
[00:07:34]  Not true this time, because you have such a kind of a psychotic cabal running the United States government that.
[00:07:44]  And the world, that if they continue in that leadership position, then there's not going to be any conversation to have about things.
[00:07:52]  We need to have that force coming in on the RFK Jr. Side of the Democratic Party and the force coming in on the Trump forces on the other side.
[00:08:01]  And they have to squeeze the middle, which is the Biden administration and the Biden regime.
[00:08:10]  And they need to knock that whole potentiality out for elections so that we get something else at the head of the body politic in the United States and then thereby the world, because we know very often so the United States goes, so goes the world.
[00:08:27]  And sure, it takes everyone on the ground to do this.
[00:08:30]  And it takes all of us, you know.
[00:08:33]  There are people who will roll it out there and say, you know, I hear this too much about the presidential elections don't matter, anything on that level, everyone's corrupt and all the rest of it.
[00:08:44]  And it misses crucial aspects, you know.
[00:08:48]  So they'll say, make sure you know who your councilman is, right?
[00:08:51]  Or something along that line.
[00:08:53]  And that's all fair and well.
[00:08:54]  Make sure you know who your sheriff is.
[00:08:57]  But, you know, my thing is make sure you know who your COG general is, who's the commander of Northcom.
[00:09:04]  This is going to come in very handy.
[00:09:06]  And so when we look at these situations, we have to be realistic that somebody on a local level can fight and lay a foundation, but you need that power at the top because if they go off on a federal level and go after the locals, and the locals, as we saw during the pandemic, shut down.
[00:09:27]  And so we need that across the board piece.
[00:09:31]  But the presidency is crucial and it's a powerful position.
[00:09:34]  It is the most powerful position in the free world.
[00:09:37]  And we've had some presidents who've made a difference, and we can be in a situation like that again.
[00:09:43]  I think it is crucial.
[00:09:44]  But in terms of that question about Trump and whether or not Napolitano's question, we made Napolitano's question famous.
[00:09:53]  He made this little side recollection, and I thought it was absolutely fascinating.
[00:09:58]  We brought it forward, and then everyone picked up on it.
[00:10:01]  Thank God, because it is a crucial thing.
[00:10:03]  And basically, the setup for that is that Judge Napolitano, who is a libertarian, was on Fox News, now does his own thing.
[00:10:10]  And it's just an incredible legal expert and was friends with Trump, although that's a tempestuous relationship.
[00:10:16]  They're not always on the same side.

=== CIA Files and Chain Reactions (02:51) ===

[00:10:18]  And sometimes they call each other out, you know, so it's not, they're not the coziest of friends, but they are friends.
[00:10:24]  And they share mutual friends.
[00:10:27]  So they had this conversation before he was leaving office where he said, you know, you should release the JFK assassination files.
[00:10:32]  You said that you wanted to when you got in there.
[00:10:35]  You made a really big deal of it to me.
[00:10:37]  And Trump was like, yeah, you know, I've looked at it and there's no way that stuff's ever coming out.
[00:10:46]  Now, it's interesting.
[00:10:48]  The things that could scare Trump off from doing that are very important to consider.
[00:10:54]  And when you think about it, what would really make him stop from releasing those records?
[00:10:59]  Well, he was supposed to release them by law, October 26, 2017.
[00:11:04]  They were mandated by a congressional order, which became law, called the JFK Records Act, which said whoever's in the presidency needs to release those records.
[00:11:14]  Early that morning, the Central Intelligence Agency came in and said, Oh, it's going to cause an upset and a real big problem in this area, this area, this area, and it's going to expose our agents and ways and means and the methods that we use.
[00:11:30]  It's absolutely ridiculous.
[00:11:31]  All the agents are dead, one.
[00:11:32]  Two, if you're still using methods from 1963, then you probably should get yourself a new central intelligence agency.
[00:11:39]  So those arguments are just to hide what's lying in those files.
[00:11:45]  Now, it is an interesting question because a lot of people say, well, what could be in the files anyway?
[00:11:50]  The CIA could just rub it out.
[00:11:51]  It's very important to recount that RFK, after his brother's death, had a meeting with the CIA director and he said, Come to my farm in Virginia now.
[00:12:03]  And within an hour of the assassination, he met him.
[00:12:05]  And it's my opinion and my belief that RFK Jr. put something in the Central Intelligence Agency files that, if it were to be removed, would set off a chain reaction.
[00:12:17]  And that that has always been sitting there inside the government.
[00:12:21]  RFK was just sharp enough.
[00:12:24]  To understand that system.
[00:12:27]  And tonight we're going to get into some of the briefings that he got as a senator on the UFO file and some of the things that Philip Corso, the late Colonel Corso, had to say about what he was doing with the Kennedys in relation to the UFO file.
[00:12:43]  And it's a major piece of this whole thing because when you understand that the Kennedys were working and were in that battle of the nexus of X Protect and those intelligence groups in that corridor, the defense contractors on the aerospace side, And the intelligence groups, that sprawling but secret infrastructure is something, is exactly what they came up against.

=== Debunking Florida Rumors (12:19) ===

[00:13:10]  That's why you have two major assassinations in the leadership in the 1960s.
[00:13:15]  And there are other reasons in terms of the war machine, yes, and finances, et cetera.
[00:13:20]  But it's the UFO file that becomes the number one reason.
[00:13:23]  And I'm going to get into why tonight.
[00:13:25]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[00:13:27]  So great to be here with you, X Series 150.
[00:13:31]  Just fantastic.
[00:13:32]  So many of you in the ideas room tonight with us and Miss Olivia.
[00:13:35]  And Miss Olivia, before I go any further, what do you got?
[00:13:39]  William Ledger says, Any thoughts on the COG satellite phones recently recommended for 50 Senate members?
[00:13:44]  And John Howard says, That's what I'm talking about.
[00:13:47]  Something bigger than elections is coming.
[00:13:50]  Yeah.
[00:13:52]  Yeah.
[00:13:52]  Here's the thing.
[00:13:53]  Now, there have been a lot of rumors about this, but a lot of them are true.
[00:13:59]  So, There's a lot of senators who will be spending Memorial Day in a bunker as part of a test of the continuity of governance emergency system.
[00:14:11]  Now, how that came about or why they're doing it now, we don't have good answers on that.
[00:14:17]  And there's runaway, you know, everyone's postulating a different idea about this.
[00:14:23]  But for me, it's very clear that the threat of emergency powers being seized and continuity of government being called into play is ever present now.
[00:14:34]  Especially in the situation with Biden being in a feeble state.
[00:14:39]  So, you know, I don't think there's any other way to put that.
[00:14:42]  What's interesting to me is that they would try this on Memorial Day weekend.
[00:14:48]  So it was set up in advance.
[00:14:50]  And then it, but the way it was leaked out, it was leaked out on purpose.
[00:14:54]  So they wanted everyone to know hey, these senators got 50 emergency phones, satellite phones, and all the rest of it.
[00:15:02]  You know, that's not exactly advanced technology either.
[00:15:05]  But, um, You know, for me, the fact that they let that out means they want us to be questioning something about an emergency possibility.
[00:15:15]  And maybe they wanted to, you know, snuff out some activities that were going on under the surface.
[00:15:24]  You know, they wanted to see what kind of reaction they would get.
[00:15:28]  But it's unusual.
[00:15:29]  I agree with you.
[00:15:30]  And anytime you catch them talking, you know, it's a major bill before Congress.
[00:15:35]  I think it's SB 488.
[00:15:38]  I have a thing on it tonight, but there's a whole thing in there about when they enacted new rules in COG in 2016.
[00:15:47]  It was the Bush administration in 2008 that really took it up a notch.
[00:15:54]  And it took it up under the September 11th emergency, which we're still living under.
[00:15:59]  The last conversation I had with Professor Scott, he reminded me, you know, by the way, you know, none of that stuff has ever been lifted.
[00:16:05]  And whenever I check, it's there because nobody ever asks for it to be lifted.
[00:16:11]  It's part of the National Defense Authorization Act now.
[00:16:13]  Every president, Trump, Bush, Obama, whoever, signs off on it, and the military gets their trillion dollars.
[00:16:20]  And there's the big boondoggle.
[00:16:21]  The problem is attached also to the National Defense Authorization Act now is the UFO Defense Office, UFO DOE, or ARO, as they call it.
[00:16:31]  And that was a sneaky maneuver that was done inside government.
[00:16:35]  So when we look at those things, there's a lot of things going on, which eventually there's no media to cover it.
[00:16:42]  It's just us.
[00:16:44]  And so we have to do our best with it, and we have to do it in a way that doesn't sensationalize it.
[00:16:50]  Now, this brings me into the UFO story that came up.
[00:16:53]  That Corbell and hang your head for shame, George Knapp with Corbell, absolutely terrible.
[00:16:59]  The two of them together put out, they said they'd been working on this for two years.
[00:17:04]  I hope not.
[00:17:05]  They put out this thing, which is the most dreadful UFO footage I've ever seen in my life.
[00:17:11]  It is a flare dropping and it was debunked within 20 minutes.
[00:17:15]  If they'd been working on that for two years, they didn't get their money's worth.
[00:17:19]  But there's a whole thing going on around UFO reporting.
[00:17:22]  It has to be a key.
[00:17:23]  Point of how we go forward with things because there has to be an understanding that if there is the UFO file reporting that we do on this program and there are other people who do it in good faith, and then there's this other thing, there's CIA disclosure and this marketing circus thing that goes on.
[00:17:41]  Now, Corbell is part of that circus thing, and here's the idea with what they want to do with Corbell what they want to do is have this idea that he has inside guys and then they leak him stuff, and then when he puts footage out through the media because he has those channels set up somehow.
[00:17:58]  He just plugs into everybody immediately and they get all the pops and clicks, but there's no substance to the stories.
[00:18:03]  But in all of those things that he releases, there's a big copyright thing.
[00:18:08]  And this is the privatization of the UFO file publicly, you see.
[00:18:12]  So they're not interested in his podcast and all that stuff.
[00:18:15]  I'm talking to people who've had regular UFO experiences and then showing their photos or sharing their experiences.
[00:18:22]  No, no, no, no.
[00:18:24]  It's just this insider stuff that he can copyright and then trot out and then make money.
[00:18:29]  You know, they get Knapp to promote it, and then those people support Elizondo and that whole CIA circus.
[00:18:35]  So it's an incredible intermix of BS on the UFO file side.
[00:18:41]  That's dangerous because knowledge about the UFO file, good information about it, is going to be crucial going forward because of the level of technology that's involved and how the breakaways now are in a position where they need to break back in to roll the technology out.
[00:18:59]  This is another factor that we're going to be caught flat footed if the CIA and marketing people, you know, like Corbell and Knapp now have become.
[00:19:11]  Now, by the way, both, you know, well, I don't know about Corbell, but Knapp has solid background in the whole thing.
[00:19:18]  He could do it and he could do real cases and the whole bit, but he's joined the circus.
[00:19:23]  So, you know, that's the way it's gone.
[00:19:25]  And a lot of, I've had to kiss off a lot of UFO researchers, frankly.
[00:19:30]  And I've been shocked by my conversations with some of them because.
[00:19:34]  A lot of them have said to me, Oh, if you don't go along, you know, you'll be made to look foolish and all this kind of.
[00:19:39]  Can you believe it?
[00:19:40]  So just think of what's going on there.
[00:19:44]  They no longer care about the audience.
[00:19:45]  They care about being that fly in the wall, as if some intelligence agency is going to give them some reward, you know, a little pat on the head for keeping with their narrative.
[00:19:55]  You know, so we're smashing through all of their narratives tonight and none of that stuff.
[00:20:00]  We're going for the real UFO file, not these horrible flare stories.
[00:20:03]  By the way, that thing is being debunked so fast that heads are rolling and those people are doing major damage control.
[00:20:09]  So whoever was in charge of their little hokey marketing operations, just, you know, they basically pulled.
[00:20:17]  You know, I don't know.
[00:20:18]  It's almost like Corey Goodlover.
[00:20:21]  I hate to even conjure the name.
[00:20:23]  I didn't hear about this.
[00:20:24]  Mark Hospion says, What about those two airports that were closed due to UFO sightings this past week?
[00:20:31]  Well, I heard about one in Russia, but I'm not sure the ones that you're referring to.
[00:20:36]  Is it the Russian one that you're talking about?
[00:20:38]  So you can let us know.
[00:20:39]  If you have any information on anything like that, admin at darkjournalist.com is the best way to go.
[00:20:46]  And there is some unusual UFO activity going on.
[00:20:50]  In the past couple of weeks, and it has nothing to do with that hokey thing that they're running through.
[00:20:56]  And like CBS News picked up this thing, you know, but guys like the Black Vault and things like that debunked him within a few minutes.
[00:21:07]  Easily debunkable.
[00:21:10]  Let's talk about a few other weird things in UFO circles for a minute here.
[00:21:14]  And it goes to Ron DeSantis.
[00:21:19]  Here's a story I try to keep up with, and we have to remember with the promotion of.
[00:21:23]  DeSantis, there's a UFO angle.
[00:21:25]  And I've been trying to point out to both campaigns, the Trump campaign and the Kennedy campaign, that you have to get on the UFO file disclosure piece with the election campaign.
[00:21:37]  Don't leave it to the other sources because they're going to pick up the ball and run with it.
[00:21:41]  And there are going to be false disclosures and the potential for real ones.
[00:21:46]  So you don't want to be left in the dust on this, especially since you both have a good background on it.
[00:21:51]  And if you don't, I'll be happy to brief you with everything I know.
[00:21:55]  Ron DeSantis' biggest donor is a budget hotel tycoon with a passion for UFOs.
[00:22:00]  Bigelow's $10 million puts him at the top of the contributor list.
[00:22:06]  There's an updated, this is from Bloomberg.
[00:22:08]  There's an updated Time article that says the quote from Bigelow is I'm willing to spend my fortune to get DeSantis elected.
[00:22:15]  Why?
[00:22:17]  Now, DeSantis is governor of Florida, that is the space coast, but there's something weird going on on the UFO side in relation to DeSantis.
[00:22:27]  Another thing is, of course, all this favoritism that was shown to him by Elon Musk, and Musk directly tied in to all the space moves with SpaceX and everything else.
[00:22:39]  DeSantis signs bill shielding Musk's SpaceX from spaceflight entity liability.
[00:22:44]  The Florida governor's signatures come a day after his 2024 presidential campaign announcement on Twitter with Musk.
[00:22:51]  That's dramatic because Musk can say all he wants.
[00:22:54]  Well, I'll get the other candidates on.
[00:22:55]  Yeah, whatever.
[00:22:57]  To launch, and it was a disastrous launch, all the tech went down and everything else.
[00:23:02]  But nonetheless, you know, to be having this kind of Ron's my guy thing early on, something is going on there with DeSantis promising the world.
[00:23:14]  And Bigelow and Musk have picked up on that.
[00:23:17]  And they both plan to benefit from it.
[00:23:19]  But it's another strike on Musk, who is gathering a lot of strikes first for his appointment of this horrible WEF CEO.
[00:23:28]  That's one problem, the World Economic Forum leader.
[00:23:32]  That he made CEO of Twitter.
[00:23:34]  Bad decision.
[00:23:36]  And then this promotion of DeSantis and doing it in such a transparent way.
[00:23:41]  If you're going to announce people's candidates, hey, invite them all on.
[00:23:46]  And you could say, well, yeah, I'll get to them later.
[00:23:48]  But whoever you announce first gets the big boost because that's the first time you're doing it.
[00:23:52]  And it backfired because the technology failed.
[00:23:55]  But still, there's a lot going on there behind the scenes.
[00:23:59]  And Musk being, again, right in the center of playing with that.
[00:24:04]  And it's becoming more and more transparent what this guy's up to.
[00:24:09]  So, a little bit about this.
[00:24:10]  Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed a bill regarding spaceflight on Thursday, just one day after he announced his presidential run in a glitch filled interview with Elon Musk on Twitter Spaces.
[00:24:21]  DeSantis signed into law CSSB 1318, Spaceflight Entity Liability.
[00:24:28]  Along with 27 other bills, the law exempts spaceflight entities from liability for injury or death of a crew resulting from spaceflight activities under certain circumstances.
[00:24:39]  The measure also requires a spaceflight entity to have a Crew sign a specified warning statement.
[00:24:46]  Florida is known as the launching point of SpaceX aircraft.
[00:24:49]  So basically, he's guaranteeing himself with this bill, you know, they're giving him carte blanche.
[00:24:56]  And that looks like that kind of political favoritism immediately.
[00:25:01]  So we have to wonder why then is Bigelow, who wants to do hotels in space, and Musk both lining up behind this guy?
[00:25:12]  I'm going to show you a lot of companies, some of them you haven't even heard of tonight, and figures who are involved in this blue secret space program now.
[00:25:20]  But let's not forget the third member in all of these activities, and that is Jeff Bezos.

=== Illuminati Connections Exposed (15:14) ===

[00:25:29]  And of course, it's Blue Origin.
[00:25:31]  And that's going to play very heavily tonight because the blue classification means that he is poised to inherit much of what the secret space program has developed.
[00:25:43]  As SpaceX is signaling they are willing to use the X technology.
[00:25:48]  So, how those two play it out is going to be quite remarkable.
[00:25:51]  And we're going to get into that tonight.
[00:25:54]  The only other thing I wanted to point out was NASA selects Blue Origin as second Artemis lunar lander provider.
[00:26:02]  So, it's SpaceX and Blue Origin, baby.
[00:26:05]  Artemis all the way.
[00:26:09]  And some of the promotion that our friends over there at Blue Origin are doing fly to space on New Shepard.
[00:26:19]  And, you know, Blue Moon and all this kind of heavy, heavy duty pieces associated with it.
[00:26:25]  Now, the thing I want to point out is in naming mechanisms, you get all kinds of tricks that are involved with code in the military.
[00:26:35]  When you get space things involved, then the level of security, because it relates around the UFO file, is so heavy that it goes beyond the atomic bomb and it goes beyond nuclear secrecy.
[00:26:52]  Because the UFO file and what it contains in there, and the things we've talked about on this program, like apotheosis and these effects that take place, are classified above.
[00:27:02]  And we have that confirmed now.
[00:27:05]  It's not like an MJ 12 document guess or something like that.
[00:27:10]  That's confirmed by a top physicist I've cited on this program many times.
[00:27:13]  He passed away in the 80s, but he confirmed it in the 50s, confirmed it in the 80s.
[00:27:18]  He's on record.
[00:27:19]  That's the end of that.
[00:27:21]  The UFO file is the top.
[00:27:23]  One of the interesting things also that Robert Saarbarker, the physicist, talking about, mentioned was that they, yeah, not only had they studied the craft, but they'd studied the bodies.
[00:27:36]  And he said that the bodies were constructed in an insect like fashion to allow them to withstand the tremendous speed that was taking place.
[00:27:47]  That was his, you know, that's directly from him.
[00:27:50]  And I've done enough programs, I think, that include Saarbarker that I won't get into him tonight so much, but.
[00:27:55]  What I want to point out is that's on record.
[00:27:58]  So, the UFO file, as we discuss it, the sources cited are not something we need to guess at or hope that we got an MJ 12 document or something.
[00:28:12]  Those things are fine, and you might find threads in all of them.
[00:28:16]  But Sarbacher's on the record.
[00:28:18]  You don't need to look any further than what he said about it.
[00:28:21]  And the people that he pointed out as hosting and leading the UFO file research, controlling it.
[00:28:28]  Vannevar Bush, John von Neumann, you know, these are the people in charge of the Manhattan Project.
[00:28:35]  But the things that they have in common crisscross with our geopolitics heavily, because if you go deep enough in there, you're going to find, on one hand, the Kennedys deeply involved through Forrestal, the UFO file, and you're going to find Trump's through his uncle, deeply involved through his mentor, Vannevar Bush at MIT.
[00:28:56]  So when we understand, The political, geopolitical situation and the UFO file piece, all of the thing, all the antics around the UFO file start to make a lot more sense.
[00:29:09]  We're going to try to make even more sense of them tonight through some unusual stories that I'm going to start the program right off with.
[00:29:18]  Some of them have to do with companies that I believe are engaged in the rollout of the breakaway technology.
[00:29:27]  And, um, Some of these figures you may not have heard of, but I want us to put them on the map as we put Van Herk on the map two years before he came out and took over last February the whole situation relating to shooting down those UFOs.
[00:29:48]  I consider that a heavy duty UFO file, watermark that the New York Times and all these people were picking up his comments about shooting down UFOs, even though they were talking about balloons or whatever.
[00:30:00]  And then eventually they didn't.
[00:30:01]  You know, except for that one Chinese balloon, they didn't show us any of the footage that they promised to.
[00:30:05]  So, whatever was going on there, we didn't get the real story.
[00:30:08]  No transparency at all on that.
[00:30:12]  So, I want to introduce us to Lieutenant General David Deptula.
[00:30:18]  David Deptula is an incredibly well credentialed and decorated retired general.
[00:30:27]  And this is somebody who I could sit and read his resume all night, but there's only a few pieces of his resume that truly interest me.
[00:30:36]  But he had some very interesting things to say in relation to the UFO shootdowns.
[00:30:42]  He came out right away and they went to him as kind of a go to in all of this.
[00:30:46]  Detula, as I went into his history, and by the way, this guy's incredibly articulate and he can take questioning on the UFO thing.
[00:30:56]  He's not afraid.
[00:30:58]  And he's also, he knows how to be kind of hide things while being transparent.
[00:31:04]  You're going to be seeing this guy a lot.
[00:31:06]  He's a very talented communicator and he knows a lot.
[00:31:10]  And he's somebody, he's one to watch, as they say.
[00:31:13]  DJ?
[00:31:14]  Yeah.
[00:31:15]  How do you spell his name?
[00:31:16]  Yeah, it's interesting actually.
[00:31:18]  It's D E P T U L A, Depula.
[00:31:24]  And I'm going to give us a lot on his background here.
[00:31:31]  He's associated with a number of aerospace companies and he's the chairman of a nonprofit aerospace group as well.
[00:31:41]  But his choice of companions in these space programs really interested me.
[00:31:48]  I'm just going to read you a little bit.
[00:31:50]  Of him and one of the interesting things that he was involved with.
[00:31:54]  This goes back to the Obama era.
[00:31:56]  So rewind the clock.
[00:31:57]  Do you have music for rewinding the clock?
[00:31:59]  I can't remember back that far.
[00:32:01]  Doot, doot, doot.
[00:32:03]  United States Air Force punishes former top general over defunct airship project.
[00:32:10]  US Air Force is barring one of its own retired top generals, one who often appears on CNN to advocate for the use of air power.
[00:32:17]  Yeah, he's advocating that we, you know, support Ukraine to the hilt to.
[00:32:23]  Blow Russia away.
[00:32:24]  So, this guy's a real hawk.
[00:32:26]  Retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant General David Deptula has long been respected for his experience in strategy and war planning and so on.
[00:32:35]  And they give a big overview Operation Desert Storm, all the rest.
[00:32:39]  This guy is decorated to the nines.
[00:32:41]  Deptula is now barred from engaging the government on business matters until February 2016.
[00:32:47]  This is in 2012.
[00:32:49]  This happened.
[00:32:51]  Breaches of post employment rules.
[00:32:55]  He also.
[00:32:57]  Is the CEO for the Air Forces Association Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies, a nonprofit advocacy group which does not have contracts with the service.
[00:33:10]  Now, what's interesting is he went through this whole thing about saying we should put all this money and everything behind this airship.
[00:33:19]  And the airship was called the Blue Devil.
[00:33:24]  The Blue Devil, too, was something he wanted to use in all of these military operations.
[00:33:28]  And it was interesting.
[00:33:31]  It was kind of like, you know, using a strange technology, but it was kind of like a blimp that collected intelligence, very much like the Chinese balloon that came across America.
[00:33:43]  But anyway, at a certain point, the Air Force said to him, hey, no way, and stop this.
[00:33:49]  He went ahead and kept doing it anyway.
[00:33:51]  And he actually set the program up.
[00:33:52]  And so then they finally punished him.
[00:33:55]  Now, at issue was the deputy chief of staff that he was advocating for the Blue Devil II airship project.
[00:34:03]  The debarment memo says Blue Devil 2 was intended to be an airship housing a variety of imagery and signals intelligence sensors and contain an unprecedented ability to fuse the data into actionable intelligence.
[00:34:14]  So, this thing was like a huge Intel sensor machine.
[00:34:19]  And what's interesting, pay attention to this part.
[00:34:26]  Now, he was ordered to pay 125 grand to the Department of Justice.
[00:34:30]  But what happened was while they were in the middle of the whole rigmarole, this happened.
[00:34:37]  Depula was also found to have 125 classified documents on his personal laptop, 10 labeled secret, 14 labeled top secret.
[00:34:49]  I guess he tops President Trump and Mar a Lago on that.
[00:34:52]  And one with the protection of secret compartmented information.
[00:34:57]  That's the top.
[00:34:58]  Grandin accepted Depula's explanation that the illegal presence of these documents on his laptop was unbeknownst to him.
[00:35:05]  I don't know how they got there.
[00:35:07]  Jeez, that should be Trump's thing.
[00:35:09]  I don't know how that stuff got in Mar a Lago.
[00:35:11]  But he got away with it.
[00:35:15]  So, the debarment is related solely to his conduct and lobbying for the Blue Devil 2 project and his unwillingness to heed Air Force general counsel.
[00:35:24]  Now, here's the upshot of the whole thing this guy got behind this Blue Devil project and the airship, Blue Devil 1 and Blue Devil 2.
[00:35:35]  And he basically put the Air Force resources behind it.
[00:35:40]  And when they said step down, he kept doing it.
[00:35:42]  And then when they were investigating it, they went into his laptop and said, oh my God, he's got all this.
[00:35:46]  Top secret stuff he's not supposed to have, and there was some kind of agreement where they're like, if you just say, you know, that you didn't know why that stuff was there, then fine.
[00:35:54]  But Deptula is collecting intel there for sure, and when you go later into his career, it gets very, very interesting and wild.
[00:36:02]  So let's do that now.
[00:36:03]  Um, now CNN loves this guy, which is I also found kind of interesting.
[00:36:12]  So during the bringing things up to date during the February UFO balloon shoot down and all that stuff.
[00:36:19]  They were going to him in these articles.
[00:36:21]  What is the high altitude object shot down over Alaska?
[00:36:24]  Remember that?
[00:36:25]  Yeah, it's going to play a part here.
[00:36:28]  The classification on the object shot down by U.S. fighter jets is pretty quizzical, says retired General David Jepchula.
[00:36:35]  First, there's been no indication of the origin.
[00:36:38]  Second, it was described in the short news conference at the Pentagon as having not resembling an aircraft.
[00:36:46]  So he's picking up on these things, and he is somebody who's right in the heart of that aerospace.
[00:36:54]  Well, I found he was connected to five very, very interesting companies.
[00:37:00]  And one of them having a direct correlation with this secret space program, blue naming mechanism.
[00:37:13]  Let's go back in time again, this time 2015.
[00:37:17]  And this is the Long Island Press, and it says Mysterious drone company stays mum on Riverhead factory plans.
[00:37:25]  Now, one of the things that they did is they put up this unusual imagery of this medieval astrology, basically, with the sun in the middle and this whole bit.
[00:37:39]  And they called the company Illuminati, not Illuminati, but Illuminati.
[00:37:45]  And there was a whole history that was interesting about the CEO, Daniel Preston, the thrust behind Illuminati Aerospace.
[00:37:55]  Now, this guy did have an interesting background.
[00:37:57]  Um, and when they talked about his uh history, we got into some interesting territory with him because um, he he was caught in he was sort of like a child genius and he came up with all these patents and things.
[00:38:14]  But what did you have for me?
[00:38:15]  No, I just Luminet, who are they?
[00:38:17]  Are they trolling us?
[00:38:18]  What are they doing?
[00:38:19]  They know that's gonna stir up the conspiracy theorists.
[00:38:23]  Uh, so this is from 2015.
[00:38:25]  Now comes Luminati.
[00:38:28]  Around which the rumors are flying almost as fast as Preston, topping the list, whether the client is Facebook or a similar global enterprise that plans to use drones to laser beam internet connectivity into hard to reach locales.
[00:38:44]  And they're saying, well, you know, he's being pretty tight lipped about it.
[00:38:47]  Quote, we're not secretive by nature, but there's a proprietary aspect to what we're developing, said Preston, who holds 100 patents in 17 countries.
[00:38:55]  I have to respect that confidential nature of the program with our client.
[00:38:59]  Now, I think that this program was involved and engaged in rolling out some of the technology that they've been holding back.
[00:39:07]  But something, a lot of things went weird with it.
[00:39:11]  What's interesting to me is on the board of this Illuminati company is our friend, Lieutenant General Deptula.
[00:39:21]  This is already such a weird episode.
[00:39:23]  It is.
[00:39:24]  You know, well, you ain't seen nothing yet.
[00:39:27]  So here's the weirdness that kicks in around this.
[00:39:33]  Now, he goes forward and he's putting together these things.
[00:39:38]  And then, out of the blue, As he's facing these kind of challenges with the company, he goes through some very public controversies, Preston, about this company, Illuminati.
[00:39:50]  And he posts this on his website at the end of last year.
[00:39:57]  It was the same thing he started off with, this kind of weird medieval astrology thing.
[00:40:02]  And I don't think anyone knew what to make of it.
[00:40:05]  And they were starting to wonder what's up with this guy and this company?
[00:40:09]  And what is that symbolism all about?
[00:40:12]  Because remember, when he started, That's the symbol that he used, also.
[00:40:16]  Well, he had a very untimely death in the middle of all this, and that's kind of the sad part of all of it.
[00:40:24]  But again, going to that Illuminati cast of characters there, I just want to point this out because I need to get this on the record.
[00:40:36]  So that's Depula there, but that's only one of five companies that Depula is going to be associated with.

=== Celestis and Deep Imagery (15:32) ===

[00:40:43]  So just.
[00:40:45]  Hang out as we roll this out here.
[00:40:47]  It gets very, very interesting.
[00:40:49]  Now, unfortunately, Preston, who was the CEO of Illuminati, this spacefaring company, he dies at the young age of 52.
[00:41:05]  And it's quite out of the blue.
[00:41:06]  The whole company is shocked.
[00:41:07]  And basically, the company goes down.
[00:41:11]  And their assets are kind of gobbled up in the middle of all this.
[00:41:16]  Daniel Preston, owner of a company with stake in Calverton land deal in town, dies at 52.
[00:41:21]  That was earlier this year.
[00:41:24]  All the unusual things around it, the astrological things, the fact that he had bought a major Masonic building the year before his death and then started to live in it, he moved into it.
[00:41:38]  Just a lot of very, shall we say, strange things about that company.
[00:41:43]  And then all the technology that they were going to come out with supposedly had to do with solar powered space vehicles.
[00:41:50]  And they demonstrated this technology through space planes.
[00:41:55]  And they got beyond the drawing board on some of them, but then on others, they had some issues with.
[00:42:00]  That was one of the companies, Illuminati, that our friend General Depula was associated with.
[00:42:07]  Let's follow the general along a little bit further here.
[00:42:11]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[00:42:13]  Deep tonight, we're going into the blue secret space program.
[00:42:18]  There's a JFK.
[00:42:20]  Uh, tie in with all of this aerospace tonight, and of course, the UFO file mystery is core.
[00:42:25]  We're going to take your questions in the second part of tonight's program, and um, Miss Olivia is putting those together now.
[00:42:32]  How are you doing out there?
[00:42:33]  Uh, Joseph has three questions, Joseph.
[00:42:36]  Yes, it's great to see you.
[00:42:38]  Um, so does DJ think it is possible that General Deptula may represent a private intelligence/space power?
[00:42:46]  Bingo, two, could it be connected to the 19th century airship mystery and therefore to three, Walter Bosley's Nimsa idea?
[00:42:53]  Interesting.
[00:42:57]  Well, you know, it's for me what was happening with him was interesting because the Air Force was giving him a hard time.
[00:43:06]  So he wasn't their guy.
[00:43:09]  And then further on, he's connected with all these unusual enterprises about releasing futuristic technology.
[00:43:17]  But he's also an incredible hawk.
[00:43:20]  So his connections and who they are, he's connected somehow with that group of advanced technology.
[00:43:28]  So the secret aspect and the advanced aspect are pretty good signatures around him.
[00:43:35]  The Nimza thing is always interesting because.
[00:43:39]  You know, the way that they appear and reappear in history for me, you know, makes you think, yeah, you know, this anything when they come out with really advanced stuff in this period of time, I connect it exactly back to something like what Bosley was researching.
[00:43:53]  What's interesting and how we can track this guy in public is he was behind the development and sale of something called the Phoenix Ghost, which they used and they shipped over to Ukraine and really made a difference.
[00:44:09]  In defending Ukraine, you know, but more profits for the military industrial complex.
[00:44:15]  But the Phoenix Ghost is directly connected to the company that he was with, which is Avex Aerospace.
[00:44:23]  This is company number two.
[00:44:24]  Remember, there's five.
[00:44:26]  And AEVEX Aerospace is the next company.
[00:44:31]  So let's get some things on board about them.
[00:44:35]  So Depula is on their board.
[00:44:37]  He was on the board of Illuminati.
[00:44:39]  Now let's go to AEVEX.
[00:44:42]  Avex Aerospace could not be reached for comment.
[00:44:44]  The company, which lists a variety of drones for different purposes, does not feature Phoenix Ghost on its website, even though they develop it.
[00:44:52]  Avex owns a training range in Roswell, New Mexico.
[00:44:58]  I think we're getting closer to who he's involved with, which is likely where the company tested the Phoenix Ghost.
[00:45:05]  The Phoenix Ghost is a different type of aircraft.
[00:45:07]  It's a one way aircraft that is effective against medium armored ground targets, said retired Lieutenant General David Depula.
[00:45:14]  Dean of the Mitchell Institute of Aerospace Studies and member of the AVEX board.
[00:45:19]  The drone can take off vertically, fly for six plus hours, searching for or tracking a target, operate at night using infrared sensors, Depula said.
[00:45:28]  Phoenix Ghost has a longer lawyering capability than Switchblade, which can only fly for an hour.
[00:45:36]  So, this other company, a lot of weird things happened with this other company.
[00:45:43]  And one of the things that happened was.
[00:45:46]  People started to get very curious about what they were doing at their Roswell location in terms of their experimentation.
[00:45:55]  They wanted to know what they were keeping there.
[00:45:57]  And I guess there were rumors that it was, you know, something more than just traditional, hey, I'm testing drones out.
[00:46:04]  And so there was a city council meeting where they were giving them a hard time.
[00:46:09]  And they said, well, we want more access to the thing.
[00:46:12]  And in the middle of all that, our friends Avex sent a note back to.
[00:46:17]  The Roswell Chamber of Commerce and said, Don't worry about it, we're going to move.
[00:46:23]  So they're still in the middle of that.
[00:46:25]  But the fact that they've been in Roswell for four years and developing this Phoenix Ghost, which is already active heavy on the battlefront.
[00:46:37]  Now, let's take a look here and a few other things relating to this company.
[00:46:45]  Here, another company that comes into the picture, and it's a sort of sideways connection.
[00:46:53]  Is this company Enterprise?
[00:46:56]  Now, Enterprise uses a very heavy duty blue steganography to everything that they do.
[00:47:03]  This company is very unusual.
[00:47:04]  They've been around since 1981, and it's only in the last five years that they're really in the mainstream.
[00:47:13]  But the company is actually Celestis and Enterprise as their program.
[00:47:17]  Check that out for some blue secret space program activity.
[00:47:22]  Now, listen to this DNA from four American presidents will launch into deep space.
[00:47:28]  What?
[00:47:29]  DNA from Presidents Washington, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Reagan.
[00:47:34]  Will be launched into deep space by this Celestis company.
[00:47:40]  Now, I'm going to explain exactly how they get involved, but their whole thing is about oh, you know, bring your loved one's remains into space and survive forever.
[00:47:56]  But interestingly enough, the guy who founded the company is a friend of Bush Sr. and has this really heavy duty background in real estate.
[00:48:09]  So, now a couple of things that came up about them, which is they've been around, like I said, since 81, and they were involved with bringing out DeForest Kelly's ashes, you know, Dr. McCoy from Star Trek.
[00:48:24]  This is their, this is kind of what put them on the map recently in the last few years.
[00:48:29]  And so that's even how they came up, period.
[00:48:32]  So, I think we're looking with Enterprise at another piece of this, which is bring your DNA, bring your.
[00:48:40]  You know, connect with space.
[00:48:43]  And that's going to come into play here as we go along tonight, looking at Blue Origin and others and what they're trying to set up in relation to this.
[00:48:53]  But also think about this the choice of presidents Reagan, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Washington.
[00:49:00]  Now, think about it.
[00:49:02]  Kennedy, incredibly deep on the UFO file, Eisenhower, incredibly deep on the UFO file, Reagan, incredibly deep.
[00:49:09]  The one who stands out, interestingly enough, is Washington for me.
[00:49:15]  And I started to think about their connections, and I went back all the way to this story about Lloyd Birkeland and the International Geophysical Year from the mid 50s.
[00:49:30]  And that's going to bring us into this other aspect of the UFO file, and we're going to come back to what these companies are doing.
[00:49:37]  And this is layered on top of some of this early work that was done by Lloyd Birkner at his Science Institute.
[00:49:45]  And some of the strange things in the development of the secret space program that came up and is now being rolled out at this level.
[00:49:54]  And they've waited long enough.
[00:49:55]  And the guy who's going to be sitting right in the middle of it all is our friend Buzz Aldrin, because Buzz not only has the outer space connection, and I always like to point out that his mother's name, her maiden name was Moon, which is just, you know, how much destiny is involved there?
[00:50:14]  Think about that.
[00:50:15]  Unbelievable.
[00:50:16]  But, um, and that family moon is very unusual too.
[00:50:21]  If you go back, there are stories that take us back to medieval England and these very unusual group called Moon and the unusual abilities that they had.
[00:50:35]  Um, so what we're looking at is a whole wave of technology that was developed here in the 1940s and 50s.
[00:50:47]  This whole piece was opened up, shall we say.
[00:50:49]  It was developed a long, long time ago.
[00:50:52]  But the laying it out, holding it back, by the way, was just an incredible discipline that was going on.
[00:51:01]  And it had to do with the idea of if we put it out there, these other countries will pick up on it.
[00:51:06]  So they had to let it out in certain types of ways.
[00:51:10]  Again, when you get to a secret space program, when you get to secrecy aspects, you're dealing with all kinds of contingencies and cover stories.
[00:51:19]  One of the things that we know for certain in relation to the secret space program has to do with the NASA hacker, Gary McKinnon.
[00:51:28]  That story is important and comes from around 2001.
[00:51:32]  But when you go deep into that story, it actually opens up the entire picture.
[00:51:37]  But we're going to find tonight that it was William Cooper who talked about the real and all in caps space program, the things that he had heard in relation to what the real space program was.
[00:51:50]  So you just replace real with secret, and you've got the same thing.
[00:51:54]  What's weird is there's a memo from 1963 with President Kennedy that got declassified in 2015, which has him giving instructions to Robert McNamara.
[00:52:06]  About a program called Blue Gemini and how he felt that every program he was sending over to NASA was being duplicated.
[00:52:13]  And he was wondering why there's two tracks of a space program.
[00:52:17]  That is the snapshot of the secondary program.
[00:52:21]  And that's what's going to open up so much of the conversation tonight.
[00:52:24]  Going back to McKinnon, McKinnon gives us the doorway because by hacking in as he did, he was looking for information about UFOs.
[00:52:34]  And he found that some of those computers were pretty easy to hack.
[00:52:38]  And the security level wasn't that great in that period.
[00:52:42]  And what he found in there that grabbed my attention was an off world officers list, which is the same thing you'd have for like a Navy group or a group of Marines.
[00:52:54]  But we don't have off world officers.
[00:52:57]  You know, we've had astronauts and now we have space guardians, which by the way, Deptil is an honorary space guardian for the Space Force.
[00:53:07]  That's the title.
[00:53:08]  A space guardian, yeah.
[00:53:10]  Wow, everything is becoming a comic book, isn't it?
[00:53:13]  God, it is, yeah.
[00:53:15]  Um, before I leave the uh, our little Celestis company, and I'll come back to these guys, I wanted to show you, and again, keeping this blue thing in mind, take a look at that Celestis 21 Ascension.
[00:53:32]  Look at that, Miss Olivia.
[00:53:34]  Wow, how many points on that star?
[00:53:39]  That's a good question.
[00:53:41]  Uh And that's from Cape Canaveral, there that they're taking off.
[00:53:46]  This is some of the imagery I believe is involved intentionally in this blue secret space program.
[00:53:52]  And I'll get into why as we go.
[00:53:54]  Now, if there is an off world officers list, it means that there's an off world core, which the regular public doesn't know anything about.
[00:54:04]  One, two, it means there's a whole infrastructure up there in relation to space officers.
[00:54:10]  And, you know, the.
[00:54:13]  Basically, when you think about the Space Force, it's like that's the public version and this is the private one.
[00:54:19]  Now, what's going on in relation to space, and we've done a lot of speculation and bringing forward facts and all kinds of incredible stories about the secret space program over the years.
[00:54:31]  We know about all of the hokey secret space stuff that came up through Gaia wanting to exploit the subject and all the rest.
[00:54:38]  So let's just forget about all that.
[00:54:40]  But the real thing I think is very worthwhile.
[00:54:44]  Now, what's interesting is going back to McKinnon, he has this whole thing and he finds a number of things, and all those names, Solar Warden and all that stuff, come out of what he hacked into.
[00:54:59]  So now the U.S. wants him very badly and they want to extradite him for charges.
[00:55:07]  So his mother comes forward and says he has Asperger's and can't stand trial, and there's a big back and forth over it.
[00:55:15]  And at a certain point, Obama goes over there and he's giving a press conference with James Cameron, and they nail him with the question about Gary McKinnon.
[00:55:25]  That's the level, presidential level, that this question about McKinnon was on.
[00:55:31]  So whatever he had grabbed onto was hot stuff.
[00:55:36]  And they wanted to threaten him, spook him, whatever it happened to be.
[00:55:41]  And somewhere it was decided no, don't do it.
[00:55:45]  You know, basically.
[00:55:47]  And of course, Gary can give us the story better than anyone else.
[00:55:51]  But what he found in there is another one of those confirmations of what's in the files at NASA.
[00:56:00]  NASA becomes very important in moving around and shaping this conversation, and it becomes a problem for a very good reason.
[00:56:07]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[00:56:09]  This is Dark Journalist Episode X 150, JFK Blue.

=== Wilhelm Reich Versus UFOs (03:31) ===

[00:56:15]  Secret space program, UFO file mystery.
[00:56:17]  We're going to take your questions in the second half of tonight's program as well.
[00:56:22]  Before I go any further, Ms. Olivia, you're right.
[00:56:25]  Matt Zell says, Earth equals blue planet equals an outsider's category for our world?
[00:56:31]  And Russell Gill says, when conducting military operations, your friendly forces are referred to as the blue force.
[00:56:38]  Could these blue operations be conducted with off world forces?
[00:56:44]  Oh, that's really interesting.
[00:56:45]  Yeah.
[00:56:46]  And it's interesting the terminology because you think, well, What would be the use of blue anyway?
[00:56:51]  And then why would you use blue for steganography?
[00:56:54]  How would it apply for a secret space program?
[00:56:57]  When you go through the various programs like Blue Book, like Blue Beam, and Blue Origin, all this stuff related to it, you get a definite pattern.
[00:57:07]  And it has to do with the mystery aspect of the technology itself.
[00:57:13]  And that's what's being referred to in the blue aspects.
[00:57:18]  So it's, you know, out of the blue, as it were.
[00:57:21]  But there's also an odd link on the blue, which I should probably jump to now.
[00:57:27]  It has to do with Wilhelm Reich.
[00:57:30]  And Reich has a lot of supporters out there.
[00:57:34]  He had some pretty wild ideas, and he was hunted down by the government, thrown in jail, and then died unceremoniously in there.
[00:57:44]  And they destroyed all his research.
[00:57:46]  One of the things they were able to use against him, because he was a psychologist and a scientist, was in his psychological practice, he talked a lot about.
[00:57:56]  Orgasm energy and what they called it orgone energy.
[00:58:01]  And in the 50s, they were able to make him, you know, look like, oh, well, you know, this guy is up to no good.
[00:58:07]  And that's how they were able to trip him up.
[00:58:10]  But what's interesting is when you get into his unusual commentary about the UFO file, you're dealing with something very unusual and very deep.
[00:58:21]  And this guy was a scientist who had dealt with Einstein.
[00:58:25]  And Einstein had a communication with him and cut it off very abruptly.
[00:58:29]  I'm sure at a certain point they just said, get rid of this guy.
[00:58:33]  So he was no flash in the pan.
[00:58:36]  He was certainly eccentric, no question about it.
[00:58:39]  But one of the things that he tripped into when he was working on weather manipulation for all these places in the Southwest that were experiencing droughts was the UFOs were easy to observe in the work that he was doing.
[00:58:58]  And he was starting to realize, oh my God, the UFOs are much more plentiful than they're even telling us about.
[00:59:05]  So he was tripping into something.
[00:59:07]  Interesting account by a family member, his son.
[00:59:12]  If you go back, To High Times Magazine.
[00:59:17]  There's a whole piece in there, Wilhelm Reich versus the UFOs from the archives.
[00:59:21]  My father, Wilhelm Reich versus the UFOs, a 50s childhood.
[00:59:28]  And there's an incredible overview in this article about Reich from the point of view of his son growing up and the different scientific experiments he was doing.
[00:59:40]  Some of them were pretty wild, targeting these clouds, trying to make them rain and trying to.

=== Cloud Busters and Blue Energy (14:18) ===

[00:59:47]  Tap into these different types of energy sources and everything else.
[00:59:51]  Now, the UFO aspect became kind of an obsession with him during the 1950s, and he has several very powerful essays in relation to it.
[01:00:06]  Here's a little bit now from a student of Reich, a guy named George Atwood, who wrote an essay on it, and then a little bit from his son.
[01:00:18]  I'm going to read from both.
[01:00:19]  So, first from Outwood, the discovery of the orgone.
[01:00:22]  Have you ever wondered why it is that the sky is blue?
[01:00:26]  I learned why from Wilhelm Reich.
[01:00:28]  In research during the late 1930s, he discovered a mystical energy radiating from the sun, streaming through the Earth's atmosphere.
[01:00:36]  He came to recognize that it pervades the entire cosmos.
[01:00:40]  Reich called this energy the orgone.
[01:00:42]  Orgone is blue in color.
[01:00:44]  You might have heard other explanations about why the sky is blue, but they're not, they're wrong.
[01:00:51]  Here's how he discovered this energy.
[01:00:52]  Reich one day was looking through a powerful microscope and saw before his eyes glowing particles, much smaller than individual cells, and they were blue in color.
[01:01:03]  He called them packet amoeboid bions.
[01:01:08]  They seemed like tiny amoeba moving about in a lively manner, charged with a mysterious energy.
[01:01:14]  Reich had found the atom of life, the fundamental element of the biological world.
[01:01:20]  Bions may aggregate and assemble themselves into clumps.
[01:01:23]  Precursors, he realized, to living cells were all made of bions.
[01:01:27]  It's not only that, Reich was able to observe these tiny entities coming spontaneously into existence, including out of entirely inorganic materials.
[01:01:36]  One might think this is impossible since there's no carbon in something like sand, but Reich showed otherwise.
[01:01:44]  Okay, so they go on here, and he said, What happens is they glow with a beautiful blue light.
[01:01:51]  The particles of life are everywhere.
[01:01:53]  People wonder if there's life on other planets.
[01:01:55]  Reich discovered the universe itself is alive.
[01:01:58]  Reich took samples of the preparations which he had found the bions into a special room from which all the light had been extinguished.
[01:02:05]  As his eyes adjusted to the darkness, the materials he had been examining became visible with their blue glow.
[01:02:14]  He saw something else.
[01:02:16]  The energy radiating from his samples seemed to be producing little sparks of light swirling up into the blackness.
[01:02:23]  Later that day, he removed the bion cultures from the dark room and went back to take a nap.
[01:02:27]  When he awoke, the blue glow and the sparks, although faint, were still there.
[01:02:31]  So, this is kind of a scientific breakthrough that he made on his own on this very unusual piece.
[01:02:37]  And so he says, a daring conclusion emerged from this experience.
[01:02:40]  The blue energy did not come from the little bions.
[01:02:43]  It did emanate from them, for sure, but it was also everywhere in and outside the room, the atmosphere, and the sky.
[01:02:49]  And that's where the whole Oregon energy thing comes up in Reich's work.
[01:02:53]  Now, in an article where they were kind of trying to bust his chops a little bit in Vice magazine, they had a thing where they were talking about his cloud buster, but there was a point in there I wanted to read.
[01:03:13]  It was then that Reich began to build massive orgone guns he called cloud busters.
[01:03:19]  These he claimed could reverse desertification and create rain.
[01:03:24]  While the government had been using cloud seeding technology since the 40s with silver iodide or dry ice, Reich took a less conventional approach.
[01:03:32]  His cloud busting technique purported to draw orgone energy directly out of the atmosphere through a series of hollow pipes.
[01:03:39]  So he's got this whole method for weather manipulation, etc.
[01:03:44]  Now, during this time, Reich claimed that his experiments with Cloud Busters had generated interest from some unexpected visitors.
[01:03:51]  He believed that alien UFOs or energy alphas were attacking the Earth with orgone radiation.
[01:04:00]  Reich purported to have seen a number of alien craft over Maine, where he was living.
[01:04:05]  He said he and his son had used the Cloud Busters to engage in a full scale battle.
[01:04:12]  In Reich's last years spent in his home outside of Rangeley, Maine, he thrust himself Into observing this alien invasion.
[01:04:21]  So he's seeing so many of these things that he's shocked by it.
[01:04:25]  Now, his son recounts in this High Times article some actual discussions with his dad.
[01:04:31]  This one is pretty interesting.
[01:04:34]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, Blue Secret Space Program, UFO File Mystery, the JFK part, deep, deep in there.
[01:04:45]  So he's talking to him and he says, Daddy, I spotted one in the east.
[01:04:47]  It looks pretty big.
[01:04:48]  I think it's the Southern Bell.
[01:04:51]  Pushed his chair back and stood up.
[01:04:52]  Let's go and look.
[01:04:53]  We both went to the roof and we looked at it for a long time.
[01:04:58]  He said, Go downstairs and call Bill and Eva.
[01:05:01]  Tell them to come over immediately.
[01:05:02]  Some friends who were kind of doing this with him.
[01:05:05]  And so he goes and he gets the two people and they go back and they're watching these.
[01:05:10]  I looked through the telescope and focused it.
[01:05:12]  It was bright, blue, and glowing.
[01:05:14]  I couldn't see the windows.
[01:05:16]  After Daddy began making reports to the Air Force about his work, The UFOs, Air Force jets started to come over our home a lot more, sometimes real close, sometimes far away.
[01:05:29]  When they were high in the sky, they left long white vapor trails.
[01:05:33]  After a while, Daddy said he thought the Air Force was helping him by telling him where the UFOs in the atmosphere were.
[01:05:41]  Daddy was really sure the Air Force knew and understood what he was doing.
[01:05:45]  And on his way out west, he and two friends and I stopped at Wright Patterson Air Force to talk to a general about flying saucers.
[01:05:55]  So, there's a whole thing going on there with Reich seeing this blue energy thing and all that, then using these cloud busters and encountering over and over again this UFO aspect.
[01:06:09]  And the UFO aspect for him, whatever he was witnessing or observing, he felt that it was not a healthy presence.
[01:06:20]  And he also had a very interesting idea about our use of atomic tests and atomic weapons and how that was creating.
[01:06:29]  Negative energies.
[01:06:31]  Now, a lot of these aspects about Reich run really deep, but the fact that all of his research was removed and he was dumped into a jail where he died, strangely, of a heart attack, you know, it gives you pause about the whole Reich story and what he was really looking into.
[01:06:52]  But the blue aspect, again, we're following this thread around when we're getting around the UFO file, we're going deep, deep.
[01:07:00]  Into the blue.
[01:07:02]  And when we have that blue signature now, and we start to think in terms of that as a representation around this secret space aspect, we're starting to maybe open up some doors and understand why.
[01:07:14]  Okay, so we're going to go a little deeper with it before I go any further.
[01:07:18]  Ms. Olivia, you're.
[01:07:18]  This is fascinating.
[01:07:20]  David Termina said Vannevar Bush to fund, quote, blue sky research projects.
[01:07:25]  Yeah.
[01:07:25]  And W.C. Ray says Otis T. Carr's flying craft emitted blue light when taking off and maneuvering.
[01:07:32]  Interesting.
[01:07:33]  Huh.
[01:07:34]  Yeah.
[01:07:35]  Well, I happen to think the things that Carr was experimenting with is, you know, he was taking the same things that were in black projects, but they, you know, the stuff, the information, the reports was public, you know, that people would have access to it.
[01:07:56]  And so I think that was the big crime around Carr's work for the establishment is, you know, they're like, oh my God.
[01:08:03]  This guy's doing this incredible work, but it's public.
[01:08:08]  But that's interesting in relation just to this visual because I'm going to find, we're going to find together tonight Thomas Townsend Brown and these other aspects in relation to it.
[01:08:19]  So it's opening up as we go.
[01:08:23]  I mentioned earlier in relation to the 2024 campaign that the UFO file was going to play a crucial role and we were going to be deep, deep in the soup for it.
[01:08:33]  And whichever campaign picked that thread up and ran with it was actually going to have a tremendous impact.
[01:08:38]  Advantage, in fact, and in fact, they will.
[01:08:44]  It's very important not to let the Central Intelligence Agency and that whole apparatus run away with the UFO false disclosure piece.
[01:08:55]  You always want to be on the track of the real disclosure and not pander to the circus of the UFO disclosure through the CIA.
[01:09:04]  But that's the one that's being pushed in the media.
[01:09:06]  That's the one that's being pushed for emergency powers.
[01:09:08]  That's the one that's being pushed for clicks through Corbell and that whole circus.
[01:09:13]  So, it's very important to separate the two, to have the UFO file research on one hand and this other CIA disclosure circus.
[01:09:22]  But the election, the election, the election around this, deep in there on the Trump side and on the Bobby Kennedy side, both campaigns need to click in on this.
[01:09:33]  Now, there are these public stories, of course.
[01:09:36]  Trump says he's heard very interesting things about Roswell, site of an alleged UFO event.
[01:09:42]  And I've pointed this out.
[01:09:43]  You know, Trump has made some unusual statements around this.
[01:09:49]  And he also tries to avoid it at times.
[01:09:52]  But when he gets nailed on it, he opens up.
[01:09:56]  And in this discussion with his son, there he was giving away the store, saying, Well, I know there's interesting things on that front.
[01:10:04]  When we get to Trump and the UFO file, you're dealing with a lot.
[01:10:09]  Now, we discussed DeSantis and the UFO file, and DeSantis bringing forward that whole piece.
[01:10:18]  Getting the favoritism going.
[01:10:21]  But Bezos and the projects that he's bringing forward, he's switched his whole thing from I'm the CEO of Amazon to I'm the chairman, I'm the head honcho of Blue Origin.
[01:10:36]  So there's always been a space part with him.
[01:10:39]  Blue Origin, in fact, was incorporated in Washington state in 2000.
[01:10:44]  So it's always been a piece of the pie for Jeff.
[01:10:51]  What we need to keep in mind with Jeff is that he.
[01:10:55]  He's the number one star at the Bilderberg and Davos.
[01:10:59]  He's deep on the food side after purchasing Whole Foods.
[01:11:02]  He's deep on the media side after he bought the Washington Post.
[01:11:07]  And he's awarded the CIA his cloud contracts and all these types of things that you just see that he's deep in that system.
[01:11:16]  So, whatever it is that Amazon is going to do in space, as it were, he's going to be on the side of doing this.
[01:11:25]  And the same thing with Elon.
[01:11:28]  This is not an independent entrepreneur going into space.
[01:11:30]  This is someone who, with government subsidies and government control, is being allowed to explore these things.
[01:11:39]  And so, unfortunately, I think we need to.
[01:11:45]  It's tough when it comes to Elon Musk because Twitter was in such a mess that when he got in there and was like, hey, I'm going to restore free speech and all that, sure, that's a healthy development.
[01:11:56]  You can't say that it's not.
[01:11:58]  But at the same time, you know, I think we have to be really straight up about who this guy is.
[01:12:04]  The other thing that's interesting, I think, when we get around Twitter, if I can make just a side comment on this, is if its whole development now is to become the X Everything app, then I think that Musk needs to explain, you know, today is the day that he got FDA approval for Neuralink, which is basically putting a chip in your brain.
[01:12:25]  So is his goal to merge that Neuralink aspect with the Everything app so that?
[01:12:31]  Basically, Twitter's in your brain.
[01:12:33]  And, you know, just what kind of a Frankenstein show is coming in under the guise of, hey, I love free speech.
[01:12:42]  You know, be honest, be straight up.
[01:12:45]  And, you know, I think we on our side need to tell these people we reject anything along that line and that we can see through the game.
[01:12:55]  I think it actually helps when we do that on the culture side.
[01:12:59]  Yes.
[01:12:59]  Well, you have to wonder whether that's linked at all with his choice for CEO.
[01:13:03]  Twitter CEO.
[01:13:04]  Yes.
[01:13:05]  Is that the deal that he made?
[01:13:07]  Absolutely.
[01:13:08]  I mean, look, she probably is really good at marketing, but you can't talk such a good game about free speech and, oh, I'm against the WEF.
[01:13:20]  They're unelected and all that stuff and laugh at Klaus Schwab and then, you know, make basically Klaus Schwab's darling your CEO.
[01:13:29]  That's ridiculous.
[01:13:32]  Sometimes I wonder about how they rate the public's intelligence as well, you know.
[01:13:36]  And they tap a lot into that thing I call the sports thing, where people really like to say, hey, our team's winning, you know.
[01:13:43]  And you see a lot of that on the liberal conservative clash thing.
[01:13:47]  And you see ridiculous caricatures of what liberal people are and ridiculous caricatures of what conservatives are.
[01:13:53]  And it's meant to create this kind of animosity.
[01:13:57]  So we've seen that kind of cultural manipulation, media manipulation on a very deep basis.
[01:14:03]  And that does play into all of these aspects.

=== Apollo Moonchild Exploration (06:45) ===

[01:14:05]  But when we get to Bezos and Blue Moon, what's the goal here?
[01:14:11]  Well, you know, his thing is moon and Mars again, just like Elon.
[01:14:17]  And their whole point is that, hey, want to be in space, want to be an astronaut?
[01:14:21]  You can go to space with us.
[01:14:24]  What are they really developing?
[01:14:26]  What are they really working on here?
[01:14:28]  So we need to kind of clear our minds of typical notions of, hey, you know, those billionaires, they're so crazy they want to go into space and think, ah, they're part of a program that was rolled out as soon as they stopped doing manned missions to the moon.
[01:14:43]  And this is a crucial aspect when you get to the end of the Apollo missions.
[01:14:48]  You have a 50 now, 50 plus year gap, 51 years going on, 52 years, and you don't have any manned space flights.
[01:14:57]  And when you get to the Challenger and the incredible destruction of a manned space crew in 1986 under the Reagan administration, that disaster happened.
[01:15:14]  You know, I mean, you take the space program from the idealism.
[01:15:20]  That it had under President Kennedy.
[01:15:22]  And then he had made all these rules to make sure that space never became a warfighting domain.
[01:15:28]  It was supposed to be for science, for exploration, and everything else.
[01:15:32]  And so the end of anything manned is 1972.
[01:15:38]  And then when you get to kind of rebooting this program, you know, they take it out by destroying the Challenger.
[01:15:46]  So when you start to look at how they've lined this up over time, the space program has languished in the background publicly.
[01:15:55]  So, and they've reduced NASA numbers dramatically over those years.
[01:15:59]  The question is, and NASA's having a UFO press conference on May 31st, by the way, for those of you paying attention.
[01:16:08]  For me, I have to say that there's something dramatically wrong with the history books on this.
[01:16:15]  You can't have a program just stop for 52 years and then say, hey, we're going to do Artemis and we're sending people to the moon.
[01:16:24]  What they decided.
[01:16:25]  Somewhere in there is that the revelation of the technology that they were using could be picked up by someone else.
[01:16:33]  And so, therefore, they reverted to completely secret means of development.
[01:16:38]  And the problem is the public's been on the hook for this.
[01:16:42]  One, and two, it's left the public at an incredible disadvantage where the people who've studied the UFO file, the people who've studied the advanced technology, the people who've studied the exotic technology have too much of an advantage over the average guy.
[01:16:56]  And they're operating on a totally different.
[01:17:01]  System of medicine, system of science, system of exploration of space.
[01:17:07]  So you get this kind of schizophrenic situation that gets developed.
[01:17:11]  And I think part of the group inside the Davos crowd, et cetera, thinks to themselves that depopulation is a way to handle that.
[01:17:20]  And that's where I think you get a lot of the problems that we've been seeing, the ops that we've been seeing, the emergency powers that we've been seeing.
[01:17:28]  So we need to kind of keep that in mind as we go down this track of finding out what.
[01:17:34]  What was it that went on there in relation to the advanced space development?
[01:17:38]  That's what we're getting to next.
[01:17:39]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[01:17:41]  This is X Series 150.
[01:17:44]  Yes, we made it to 150 episodes.
[01:17:47]  Actually, 198, but you know.
[01:17:50]  And it's the JFK Blue Secret Space Program UFO File Mystery.
[01:17:55]  We're going to take your questions coming up here maybe in about 20, 15, 20 minutes.
[01:18:00]  Miss Olivia, what do you got?
[01:18:02]  Joseph says Since we're talking about Apollo and disclosure, What does DJ think of Dmitry Rogozin, former head of Roskmos, saying there is no proof of Apollo having got to the moon?
[01:18:13]  That's incredible.
[01:18:14]  Is it Roscosmos?
[01:18:15]  Is that what it is?
[01:18:17]  You know, that's fascinating.
[01:18:20]  And there was a big article that came out where they said the Russians were going to examine from top to bottom the whole story of Apollo and if we actually got there.
[01:18:33]  Now, what I think is interesting when we get around Apollo also is that apparently there are incredible mystical effects from being in outer space.
[01:18:43]  And one of the stories that came back was that the first Apollo mission and the second.
[01:18:50]  That when they got to the moon, they saw their dead relatives and spoke with them and interacted with them.
[01:18:59]  Now, when you get outside of the bounds of Earth and outside the bounds of gravity, maybe you are available to a totally different mystical set of consciousness.
[01:19:10]  That's what was the belief of Jack Parsons.
[01:19:13]  That was the belief of Alistair Crowley.
[01:19:17]  So, when we get into Moonchild, a lot of people think, you know, Moonchild was all about.
[01:19:24]  Creating a devil baby, Rosemary's baby kind of situation.
[01:19:28]  Interesting if you go deep on it, Moonchild is about a child that can survive in space.
[01:19:36]  That's what the whole ritual is set up around.
[01:19:39]  Now, they may think that being in space releases them from any kind of spiritual obligation.
[01:19:46]  That may be part of what this is about.
[01:19:49]  But the mystical tie in goes also to the story that Russell Targ.
[01:19:56]  Told me, and he's going to be on the program to be able to tell this to everyone.
[01:20:00]  But, um, he's been on, you know, we've done three or four interviews, but he's going to come on because he has a new book out, which I'm really excited to see and have everyone read.
[01:20:11]  But, um, Tariq said, Look, you know, basically, uh, Werner von Braun took him aside and said, I want you to build this ESP machine because I want to test the NASA astronauts, I want to test their ESP level.
[01:20:27]  The psychic interface around space needs to be a factor that we need to understand.
[01:20:34]  It's funny when we have this whole UFO circus aspect I talk about, all they want to know is, oh, this thing, it defied gravity and spooked these people, and oh, it was a drone, whatever it happens to be.

=== John Mack and Apotheum (14:20) ===

[01:20:51]  They keep going back to real basics around technology, but ignoring all the effects.
[01:20:58]  And one of the things I bring up about the effects of the UFO experience is Apotheum.
[01:21:03]  Apotheum is crucial because I got it in my head when I had a friend when I was in college who worked for John Mack.
[01:21:15]  And what she was telling me that Mack was doing was teaching people astral travel as a way to stop the abduction experience.
[01:21:27]  And that they had done all these things like set up cameras.
[01:21:31]  And all that stuff, and none of it had worked.
[01:21:33]  And he was teaching them other things.
[01:21:34]  He was teaching them mystical techniques.
[01:21:37]  I don't know where he got them.
[01:21:38]  Harvard psychiatrist, he got them somewhere.
[01:21:42]  But one of those interesting stories that came up around Apotheum is the Betty Andreessen affair, which took place here in Massachusetts.
[01:21:53]  And the UFO thing, remember a lot around New England, you're deep in the soup.
[01:21:57]  New Hampshire is major with the Betty and Barney Hill case, incident at Exeter also.
[01:22:03]  There's a lot of heavy duty cases that have taken place around here.
[01:22:08]  But if you really think about the grays that pick her up, by the way, they're in blue uniforms.
[01:22:16]  They take her through objects and one of her own depictions there of her experiences with these grays.
[01:22:24]  And they themselves move in a jerky fashion, leaving behind kind of a version of themselves.
[01:22:30]  So it's like if you walked and your shadow was behind you and then kind of caught up.
[01:22:34]  So they're not quite here in the full sense of the term.
[01:22:39]  They're.
[01:22:39]  It's a little bit different, whatever is going on there.
[01:22:43]  I've been reading extensively about, in some of those early cases around the UFO factor, all this thing about angel hair and how this would be an aftermath of it.
[01:22:57]  Another thing is when the craft were around, they would leave this incredible fog.
[01:23:04]  And these were all aspects around the apotheum, which again, you know, seems to reverse time when people are missing time.
[01:23:12]  It seems to, um, Make people disintegrate.
[01:23:17]  It makes them able to go through objects.
[01:23:20]  So it defies any kind of normal physics that we understand.
[01:23:23]  They're operating with something else.
[01:23:27]  And also, I think, you know, that's the whole Betty Hill star map thing.
[01:23:32]  When we get into those cases, I think we're looking at.
[01:23:37]  There's a lot of apotheosis that goes on with Betty and Barney Hill as well.
[01:23:41]  I think what we're looking at really is an entirely.
[01:23:45]  Different set of physics operating in the reality when these beings are present.
[01:23:51]  So that's where the whole Apotheum aspect comes in.
[01:23:56]  It goes back very, very early and it goes back into the Atlantean experience and the things that took place there.
[01:24:04]  There are records of Apotheum, as it were.
[01:24:07]  And so when we get around the UFO file, one of the things I've said about the X technology is that inside.
[01:24:15]  The UFO file is the X technology.
[01:24:18]  And one of the things that they're afraid of and why they have X Protect and all the rest of it is because the ability to utilize it is not perfected, even after all this time.
[01:24:28]  And the ability of what it can do, what it can unleash, is not always controllable for them.
[01:24:35]  So they've been able to control a certain amount of it, have certain advantages as a result, but there's a whole other piece of it which completely mystifies them.
[01:24:43]  That's the piece that has to do with psychic development.
[01:24:45]  And that's why no regular science.
[01:24:49]  Is ever going to be able to solve the UFO file and know, like, you know, hey, check out the G force on that UFO is ever going to, you know, that's not going to get to it.
[01:24:59]  We need to understand why Von Braun was coming to Targ and saying, build me an ESP machine.
[01:25:06]  It's because there is this psychic aspect involved in the UFO file.
[01:25:12]  That's the way to understand it, in fact.
[01:25:15]  And that's what we're going to do here tonight.
[01:25:17]  There's a.
[01:25:19]  Just as a kind of a side thing, I went through a number of French cases that were taking place in the 1950s.
[01:25:28]  And I just want to suggest these as little side vignettes.
[01:25:33]  But, you know, there was a point in time there in the 1950s, if you go back, that our culture and all these other cultures are experiencing craft coming down, people getting paralyzed, and these weird little beings coming out, doing something, and then going back into the craft and taking off.
[01:25:52]  And there were tons of these stories.
[01:25:55]  And some of them, you know, may have been hokey or whatever, but some of them, this guy actually, in this French case, I actually found his interview on YouTube from 1955.
[01:26:08]  And, you know, he was a railroad worker in France and he saw a craft land on the railroad and these two little things came out of it.
[01:26:17]  They didn't have arms.
[01:26:18]  And he was like, what's going on here?
[01:26:21]  So, you know, you've got a whole list of potentialities going on.
[01:26:28]  You have the possibility that these are genuine alien visitors.
[01:26:32]  You have the possibility that, um, you know, these are tests by government, seeing how people would react to the fact that there's alien intervention.
[01:26:43]  And then you have the idea that there's a group operating here which has technology that's more advanced than ours, but they're very similar to us, but not quite.
[01:26:53]  Uh, and that's going to get us into a quote from Maurice Jessup and, um, You know, Jessup studied the UFO cases and was convinced this is absolutely legitimate.
[01:27:05]  And he was bumped off by X Protect because of how close he was getting to the truth.
[01:27:10]  And there were a lot of important cases in that period.
[01:27:14]  The case of the Aztec crash intrigued him because, again, in that case, there were supposed to be bodies involved.
[01:27:23]  But Jessup, somebody I go back to again and again because he's one of those people who understood archaeology, the Atlantean part, the advanced technology part.
[01:27:35]  And also, the whole thing about the Philadelphia experiment.
[01:27:42]  And this is interesting to me that his best friend was J. Manson Valentine, who found the Bimini Road.
[01:27:49]  And the fact that he, you know, lent basically that Jessup lent too much credit to the UFO research area meant they needed to get rid of this guy.
[01:28:00]  And they also needed to get rid of him because he'd been put on the radar.
[01:28:05]  About the experiments the Navy was doing about invisibility.
[01:28:09]  And there was that whole thing about the Vero edition of his book, The Case of a Flying Saucer, which had all these annotations describing this kind of intense Tesla technology being utilized with the UFO file.
[01:28:24]  What's interesting to me is later you're going to find Valentine right in the middle of bringing forward the Casey prophecy around the Bimini Wall and doing all that Atlantis research.
[01:28:37]  I don't think that's an accident.
[01:28:40]  This is what Jessup had to say, giving sort of his best shot on what the UFO piece was all about.
[01:28:46]  Quote On the basis of the evidence of an antiquity involving epochs of 50,000 to 200,000 or 300,000 years or more, we postulate the ancient development of some kind of science which either produced spaceflight or was brought to this third planet through spaceflight.
[01:29:06]  I do not believe it is of great significance to our thesis at the moment whether one or the other is true.
[01:29:13]  Of these assumptions, of which one is most likely to be true is irrelevant.
[01:29:18]  Either is abhorrent to science and to some religions, yet, either presents a background of conditionality favorable to an extremely ancient development of wingless flight.
[01:29:31]  Nothing else answers all of the conundrums presented by observed and recorded facts.
[01:29:37]  Now, listen to how deep you can kind of see when you read Jessup why they got rid of him.
[01:29:42]  It's no longer necessary to explain them as visitors from Mars.
[01:29:47]  Venus or Alpha Centauri.
[01:29:48]  This is 1957, he's writing.
[01:29:52]  They are a part of the Earth Moon.
[01:29:54]  They are a part of our own immediate family, a part of the Earth Moon binary planet system.
[01:30:02]  They didn't have to come from all of these millions of miles from anywhere.
[01:30:06]  They have been here for thousands of years.
[01:30:09]  Whether we belong to them by possession like cattle, or whether we belong to each other by common origin and association is an interesting problem and one which may soon be settled.
[01:30:22]  If we keep our heads, isn't that just absolutely fascinating?
[01:30:27]  And so Jessup brings us into this whole aspect.
[01:30:31]  Now, there's a third explanation beyond they're aliens visiting from another planet, beyond they're an ancient civilization which developed the technology and went underground.
[01:30:46]  I mean, I guess there's the interdimensional one too.
[01:30:47]  So you could say this is the fourth, but it is the time travel one.
[01:30:52]  And this is important because, you know, There is, I mentioned this movie, The Manifold to Earth, which is Bowie playing an alien coming here and trying to develop kind of like what SpaceX is doing with Musk.
[01:31:07]  You know, he develops all these corporations all at once.
[01:31:10]  And the whole idea is with the space corporation, he's going to send water back to his planet.
[01:31:15]  So he's developing these space probes, but the company is too overstimulating economically.
[01:31:22]  And so they interfere with all of his plans of going into space and all the rest of it.
[01:31:28]  But It's an interesting movie, and it's interesting also that Bowie at the end of his life came back and wrote a musical for it, meaning it meant something extra to him.
[01:31:38]  But the original book's from Walter Travis, and the book is from 63 or so.
[01:31:43]  And there is that scene where he's trying to convince a scientist to work with him.
[01:31:50]  And what's fascinating is when they show him, the whole thing is shot in New Mexico, including Roswell.
[01:31:59]  Before the Roswell story came out, remember, because even though Roswell happened in 47, it didn't get revealed until 1980.
[01:32:07]  It's very interesting because there's a scene where he's driving and he looks off into the distance and he sees a kind of family from the beginning era of homesteading.
[01:32:21]  And they're early Americans, you know.
[01:32:23]  And the person who's with him can't see what he's looking at, but he's literally time traveling.
[01:32:31]  And then when they look at him, they see his limousine going down this thing as a UFO.
[01:32:37]  And I always thought this was a snapshot inside the man who fell to Earth.
[01:32:41]  There's actually a lot about the UFO file.
[01:32:45]  One of the things that happens in the beginning of the movie is his craft crashes into the water and he goes up a mountain and comes down the other side.
[01:32:56]  And later on, he'll say, I came alone, no one saw me.
[01:33:01]  But they show in the beginning, One of these kind of men in black type guys looking down at the mountain of him walking into this.
[01:33:09]  So it's a fascinating thing.
[01:33:10]  I'll probably do a whole show just on the man who fell to earth.
[01:33:13]  But for me, that tie in of the time traveler aspect with the alien aspect is important because there is a whole piece about did we at a certain point in the future kind of phase out, have a problem, and then we have to come back and see ourselves in this period of time.
[01:33:35]  Because we need the essential DNA and all the rest of it.
[01:33:38]  I think it's worthy and a worthwhile theoretical framework to work with.
[01:33:45]  One of the things that makes sense about it to me is that the intense reporting of abduction experience that happens between the 1940s and into basically the early 2000s and then stops.
[01:34:04]  And then you hear fragments of it, but it becomes something changes in the whole setup of it.
[01:34:13]  There's almost no one who comes forward with an abduction experience now that's credible.
[01:34:19]  So that's unusual.
[01:34:21]  Where did that whole experience go?
[01:34:24]  Well, what came upon us, you know, in this period of time, we definitely had the 9 11 piece, but the other piece we had was the incredible COVID op thing and all the medical interference that took place.
[01:34:38]  So if you were working off that kind of a theory, you could say, well, the whole time travel aspect, they knew in advance that's when humanity was at a kind of a pretty good prime to go back.
[01:34:50]  And deal with their DNA, and they were close enough to us after that.
[01:34:54]  That's my theory.
[01:34:55]  I'm taking credit for it.
[01:34:56]  They get mutated into it.
[01:34:58]  No, go further.
[01:34:58]  Go further.
[01:34:59]  No, that's it.
[01:34:59]  You said it.
[01:35:00]  You laid it out.
[01:35:00]  No, no, go further with it.
[01:35:02]  I did want to actually throw this out to you.
[01:35:03]  Nanette Chris said, When my mother died of heart failure, she was given an electric shock by Archangel Michael, who a lot of people say is associated with the color blue.

=== Mind Control Tests Explained (05:05) ===

[01:35:11]  Interesting.
[01:35:11]  And everything in the room glowed blue.
[01:35:14]  She was revived and lived another 20 years.
[01:35:17]  Wow.
[01:35:18]  That's remarkable.
[01:35:21]  I think when we look at this, We have to take in mind that something is interfered in the general timelines of things.
[01:35:32]  So, therefore, when we look at an Atlantean route for the advanced technology and the idea that an early Atlantis civilization went off world, then we could go a little bit further and say that's pretty viable.
[01:35:50]  It's pretty viable.
[01:35:53]  Also has a viability to it, but not in the traditional fashion of, hey, aliens are coming here, and it's just like, you know, when aliens showed up during Columbus, you know, Columbus shows up and hits the Native Americans, you know, it's not going to go well for anybody.
[01:36:10]  Any of those aspects have too much of a, you know, us versus them.
[01:36:18]  It's too traditional a story in a way.
[01:36:22]  It doesn't lend itself to any facts as far as we know.
[01:36:25]  And so I think that's important.
[01:36:27]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, X Series 150.
[01:36:31]  This is JFK Blue Secret Space Program UFO file mystery, going deep here in understanding where we're taking it.
[01:36:42]  And for me, you know, I think that of these different features, we don't need to select a particular theory, but I think we need to understand it is a longer, Trajectory of information, and that we've been getting this information as a culture for a long, long time.
[01:37:05]  And I think the interference aspect, when you look at some of the creatures that people see when they're dealing with, I remember meeting Charlie Fultz, who was part of the Allagash incident.
[01:37:20]  This is very interesting because I met him by accident walking down the streets.
[01:37:25]  And He'd come out of a bookstore.
[01:37:28]  I'd heard him talk about being on television, and I just asked him what he was on television for.
[01:37:34]  He gave me a look, like, You really want to know?
[01:37:37]  And I said, Absolutely.
[01:37:39]  And he told me the whole story.
[01:37:40]  I wasn't familiar with the case until he told me, and then I looked into it.
[01:37:44]  And then later, that case really got picked up.
[01:37:47]  What's interesting to me was he remembered, and he was with two mass art teachers who were both twins.
[01:37:56]  This is also interesting.
[01:37:58]  And they had gone and helicopted into the Alligash because you can't get in there ordinarily.
[01:38:04]  They were going to do this three day fishing thing and then come out.
[01:38:07]  So the Alligash is the upper main, very, very thick forest up there.
[01:38:14]  So they have this whole experience and they get grabbed.
[01:38:17]  And it's a traditional kind of abduction experience.
[01:38:21]  But one of the things that he told me was when he was looking at it, he didn't get the sense that the creature that he was looking at looked, he said, it looked like a bug.
[01:38:34]  It looked literally like an insect in spandex.
[01:38:39]  And, you know, they were doing their tests and all the rest of it.
[01:38:43]  And he said, if anything, they had a very kind of professional tone to them, what they were doing.
[01:38:48]  And that he was amazed later thinking about what's happened with people and experiences aboard UFOs because they attribute all these kind of religious things to them, or they think of them as demonic because of what has taken place.
[01:39:04]  He said, You know, to me, it seemed like they were scientific techs, they were technicians.
[01:39:10]  And a couple of the other things he described to me is that when he looked into the eyes of the being who was looking over him, he would start to float up into the eyes.
[01:39:21]  So, I think that that's very interesting.
[01:39:23]  Now, a lot of I've heard a lot of smart people say a very unsmart thing, which is why you can explain every UFO case as mind control.
[01:39:32]  It's actually not true at all.
[01:39:35]  There's too many factors that take place.
[01:39:37]  There's too much trace evidence when the crafts land that nothing grows there.
[01:39:45]  You know, there's too many other factors involved, as I've described these different things.
[01:39:51]  One of the things is that power.
[01:39:53]  Entire power grids of cities go down when these things appear.
[01:39:57]  So, you know, we get into a territory that isn't, does not lend itself to just strictly mind control.
[01:40:05]  We're talking about something else.
[01:40:07]  In the case of somebody like Charlie Phelps, for example, I definitely get that impression.
[01:40:11]  Yes, Miss Olivia.
[01:40:12]  You know, it's interesting.
[01:40:13]  I'm just going to say this has never happened to me before.

=== Fletcher Prouty Coup Theory (07:40) ===

[01:40:16]  Every time I try to say something in the ideas room, I am getting booted out.
[01:40:21]  It's like an error.
[01:40:22]  It's not letting me, I have to go in like two, three times, and everybody else is reporting the same thing.
[01:40:27]  That's a burst.
[01:40:29]  Uh oh.
[01:40:29]  Well, more censorship.
[01:40:31]  The tech industry continues.
[01:40:34]  I'll say in the meantime, this is X Series 150, and it's JFK Blue's secret space program, the UFO file mystery.
[01:40:41]  We're going deep tonight.
[01:40:42]  It's great to have so many of you.
[01:40:45]  Well, I guess Joseph said it's happening to him, too.
[01:40:47]  So this is a very interesting wave that is taking place there of people on the tech side disrupting the chat.
[01:40:57]  But we'll see what happens with the ideas, if that all works itself out.
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[01:41:14]  And it is remarkable, you know, the kind of suppression that takes place.
[01:41:21]  But for me, the best way to stay in touch is that newsletter because basically what happens is you get it once a week, but it lets you know the remarkable, and I mean, remarkable things that we have coming up for you in terms of interviews that are going to blow your mind in June.
[01:41:35]  You're just not going to believe it.
[01:41:37]  And exciting X series episodes when we come back with a new episode later in June.
[01:41:43]  So, this is going to be incredible.
[01:41:46]  And there are events coming up.
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[01:42:10]  Now, JFK and Lloyd Berkner.
[01:42:15]  Before I go any further, I can't wait for this.
[01:42:19]  We're going to be taking questions also, Ms. Olivia.
[01:42:22]  Let's say we'll do them in 15 minutes.
[01:42:24]  Sure.
[01:42:25]  I'll finish everything by then.
[01:42:26]  All right.
[01:42:27]  Fantastic.
[01:42:28]  Now, one of the things I want everyone to say with me right now is International Geophysical Year, I G Y.
[01:42:43]  It's going to become absolutely crucial in all the work that we do around the UFO file.
[01:42:49]  And understanding things like CERN and Antarctica to understand what happened in IGY, which is 1957, 1958, they called the International Geophysical Year, and Lloyd Berkner's deep involvement, Admiral Byrd's deep involvement, and so on.
[01:43:07]  But this is going to really kind of bring us into a different understanding about the period.
[01:43:13]  And the more I got into it, the more fascinating it became because all of the people who had become so deep.
[01:43:22]  Involved around the UFO file, around the Kennedy assassination, and around various machinations of secrecy in the government were all sitting there in the heart of the International Geophysical Year.
[01:43:33]  And something that got discovered, in my opinion, set them on a completely different course, science wise and secrecy wise.
[01:43:43]  And it's kind of funny to think of the two periods because when you go back into that period, they still, in their letters and in their conversations, have some obligation to the public and they consider how would the public respond to this now?
[01:43:54]  Forget it.
[01:43:55]  You know, they're literally, you know, we're lowest on the totem pole, but you have to wonder why.
[01:44:02]  What is it that happened there?
[01:44:03]  What was the switch?
[01:44:07]  Let's take this in reverse.
[01:44:10]  We're going to go to November 22nd, 1963, and we're going to go to Dallas and President Kennedy's assassination.
[01:44:20]  A lot of the unusual things that are taking place there is that Ed Lansdale, who's Major operator in the Air Force and CIA with all the black projects going back to World War II, suddenly on Halloween retires.
[01:44:34]  He says, I'm out.
[01:44:38]  Well, he sets it up so that the person who's in charge of JFK security has to go to the South Pole, and that's Fletcher Prouty.
[01:44:53]  Fletcher Prouty would later write a book called The Secret Team about.
[01:44:59]  What he felt the people in the Pentagon and CIA had done to create the conditions for the assassination.
[01:45:06]  And then later he would write in 1997 in the second edition of it, and I've put this quote up on Twitter and other places, that they used the threat of the Russians in order to accomplish this.
[01:45:18]  And now the thing that they were priming in 1997 were aliens and UFOs as the next major threat.
[01:45:28]  The UFO threat, if you go into UFO literature like Ray Fowler, for example, who did the Betty Andreessen case and others, he talks all about how the national security apparatus is creating the threat.
[01:45:40]  As soon as I brought up the threat stuff, when the UFO community was celebrating all these CIA people coming in through the New York Times and saying, we're going to give you disclosure, and all these really hardcore researchers saying, hey, that's great.
[01:45:53]  The CIA is great.
[01:45:57]  It was interesting to me because we raised the whole piece of the UFO threat to such a point that it became noisy.
[01:46:06]  It just caught on.
[01:46:07]  And all of these people were like, no, no, you know, and like really established researchers, 30 years of UFO research.
[01:46:14]  No, no, they're not trying to do a UFO threat.
[01:46:17]  Why are you like, you know, suggesting that?
[01:46:20]  And then later turning hostile and all the rest of it.
[01:46:23]  It's very interesting to me because, in fact, That's exactly what their ploy was.
[01:46:29]  But all the UFO researchers knew that beforehand.
[01:46:31]  For some reason, as soon as the CIA disclosure from the New York Times and Elizondo and TTSA came out, they all forgot that.
[01:46:40]  Somewhere along the line, they lost it.
[01:46:42]  And we lost the entire UFO field, except for a few people, because they all got thrown into this thing this washer machine of CIA influence and favors, which I don't want anything to do with.
[01:46:58]  Now, it's interesting to me because Lansdale is kind of the representation in 1963 of the deep state versus Kennedy's version of freedom.
[01:47:14]  And Proudhon will discover that he's wandering around there in Dealey Plaza during the assassination in the aftermath.
[01:47:23]  And that when they take these three tramps in to be fingerprinted and arrested and stuff, there's a picture of him walking right by them.
[01:47:32]  The presence of Lansdale there lets us understand the impact and the force of the Black Project world stepping over and saying, We need to make sure that our top guys are there when this thing happens.
[01:47:45]  And then, you know, we need to make sure not only that the assassination goes down properly, but that the cover up happens.
[01:47:52]  So it has to be an acknowledgement that there was a coup inside the country from this group.

=== 1928 Trademark Meeting History (04:27) ===

[01:47:57]  The Black Project group that participated was related directly to this X Protect.
[01:48:04]  Intelligence wing that dealt with the UFO file and the Central Intelligence Agency.
[01:48:09]  There's a piece in there that's very shadowy.
[01:48:14]  The CIA is always shadowy.
[01:48:16]  The X Protect group is so shadowy, dealing even on a level that I refer to them at times as the Astral Agency.
[01:48:24]  The whole Men in Black thing, that whole piece comes directly out of that X Protect group.
[01:48:29]  So, President Kennedy going into ambush there, it's not often formulated or asked where he was headed.
[01:48:38]  Where, in fact, was the next stop on this incredible journey from Love Field through Dallas and past the Texas School Book Depository that was owned by D.H. Byrd, who was the cousin of Admiral Richard Byrd, who famously made all these incredible trips to Antarctica and was really, you know, just the celebrated hero of Antarctica?
[01:49:04]  Well, somebody went to Antarctica.
[01:49:09]  With Admiral Byrd from 1928 to 1930.
[01:49:13]  And his name, he was a radio whiz, he was a young guy.
[01:49:16]  His name was Lloyd Berkner.
[01:49:19]  But that was 1928 and 1930.
[01:49:22]  Who was it that Kennedy, as he goes by that building to get shot, was going to visit?
[01:49:27]  He was going to visit Lloyd Berkner at the trademark, and they were going to give a speech together.
[01:49:33]  So you have the Texas School Book Depository being used for the assassination.
[01:49:39]  You have the owner being connected directly and even having a name of a mountain being named after him in Antarctica, D.H. Byrd.
[01:49:49]  And then you have Kennedy going to meet at the trademark.
[01:49:53]  Lloyd Berkner, who'd been there with Admiral Byrd at Antarctica.
[01:49:57]  And it is Berkner who will create the whole International Geophysical Year for 57 and 58.
[01:50:04]  If we follow Berkner, we follow the UFO file and the secret space program.
[01:50:10]  You got both wrapped, rolled into one.
[01:50:13]  And I'm going to show you how.
[01:50:14]  But just remember now we're moving from the Texas School Book Depository, we're going to the trademark.
[01:50:20]  What was supposed to take place there?
[01:50:22]  Something.
[01:50:23]  Significant.
[01:50:24]  And I'm going to see if we can bring out of that history what it was.
[01:50:30]  Now, here's the letter from Lloyd Berkner to his staff after this happens.
[01:50:41]  It's the Graduate Research Center of Science that he had set up there in Dallas, and which President Kennedy was going to have the ceremony and speech with him.
[01:50:52]  This is what he says to the faculty and staff.
[01:50:55]  To the Graduate Research Center, Dallas, Texas.
[01:50:59]  We're all stricken with grief by the events of the day of tragedy, November 22, 1963.
[01:51:04]  That the president was here as the personal guest of our institution can only deepen our sense of mourning.
[01:51:09]  The day started as a happy one with the clearing weather.
[01:51:12]  Both the president and our now new president, LBJ, spoke to me warmly of our scientific and educational goals.
[01:51:20]  President Kennedy was to have made a major national and international address in Dallas.
[01:51:28]  His first words were to have been about the center and its place in the development of the social fabric of our nation in the future.
[01:51:36]  I know you'd like to see what he planned to say, and I am conveying to you his never spoken words.
[01:51:45]  I know that these tragic events will move us all deeply, and that we will unconsciously redouble our efforts to build the intellectual qualification of our institution, our nation, about which our late president, here as our guest, was to speak so graciously.
[01:51:58]  The crisis of events of our time will rally the support of the region around the objectives as never before.
[01:52:04]  Lloyd Berkner.
[01:52:06]  Now, what's interesting is he's giving us something very important there.
[01:52:10]  He's saying he never made this address, but he was about to say something that was going to have staggering national and international news included with it during his address at the trademark.

=== Philip Corso UFO Purpose (12:50) ===

[01:52:25]  Now, if you go in, there's all this speculation about the unspoken.
[01:52:31]  Speech of John Kennedy, 1963.
[01:52:35]  So much so, this became a huge buzz that a lot of people wanted to get their hands on the speech.
[01:52:42]  Now, before I go into that part, let's find out what the setup for the whole thing was.
[01:52:49]  And this gets very, very interesting to me.
[01:52:52]  One of the things that happened is there's a series of people who were working around the ceremony itself.
[01:53:01]  And it's a very unusual ceremony because Kennedy.
[01:53:04]  Writes notes to his aides saying, I need the flag that flies over the White House for this ceremony.
[01:53:13]  They want that particular flag.
[01:53:15]  So this is not just get me an American flag.
[01:53:18]  I need to hand this guy an award.
[01:53:20]  This is, I want the flag that goes directly, flies directly over the White House.
[01:53:28]  Berkner, as I said, he was on the Robertson panel.
[01:53:32]  This is another piece we need to keep in mind.
[01:53:35]  He supposedly led the argument for secrecy with the Central Intelligence Agency because of the things that he knew in relation to what were in the UFO file.
[01:53:48]  And that comes through James McDonald, the researcher, who said that.
[01:53:53]  In fact, they were going to release a lot of it, and with the information that Berkner brings forward during the Robertson panel, they decide, Oh, we have to completely keep this thing.
[01:54:06]  You know, we're going to sanitize it and put out this BS version later.
[01:54:11]  But, um, remember this also that Berkner, because of his service with Bird, who and I have a number of things from Bird giving him all these gifts and awards and saying, You're my trusted friend, being there with me for two years, and they named An island that's under ice in Antarctica after Berkner, Berkner Island.
[01:54:35]  One of the things I want to say as a sideline about IGY, the International Geophysical Year, is that as a result of them doing it, they got to take pictures of UFOs all over the world.
[01:54:48]  And IGY, especially when they get down to Antarctica, the reports of UFO sightings are dramatic and off the charts.
[01:54:57]  This is interesting.
[01:54:59]  One of four overexposed.
[01:55:01]  But successful photographs taken near Trindade Island by a Brazilian International Geophysical Year expedition.
[01:55:11]  And that is that shot there.
[01:55:14]  I have a close up of that shot, but this is a very interesting side effect and maybe a purpose behind what was going on with IG.
[01:55:25]  Remember, what happens with Berkner is he comes right off of the Robertson panel and then he gets an incredible light bulb moment.
[01:55:32]  Let's do an International Geophysical Year.
[01:55:35]  And get all these scientists down to Antarctica.
[01:55:38]  It sounds like there could be a good reason for that.
[01:55:43]  For me, Berkner and his presence in not only the story of Admiral Byrd in Antarctica, but also the Kennedy assassination and the trademark story, and then on the Robertson panel is just a stunning triple play in history.
[01:56:01]  And there he is giving a speech with Governor Conley in the background.
[01:56:07]  Will also be shot during the ambush in Dallas.
[01:56:11]  Now, it's interesting there, you know, I'm very big on time capsules, but one of the things that was taking place after the president's visit is we have all this Lloyd Berkner laying a cornerstone in the building of a time capsule.
[01:56:34]  It could very well be that they were going to make a staggering.
[01:56:39]  Statement when they got to the trademark.
[01:56:42]  What that statement could have included is the fact that they were going on a joint moon mission with the Soviets to the moon.
[01:56:51]  And Kennedy couldn't be allowed to get there to announce that.
[01:56:54]  We know later that, you know, it's going to come out that the CIA agent E. Howard Hunt would tell the Watergate lawyer Douglas Caddy, who told me on this program, well, you know, what he said to me was that.
[01:57:09]  Kennedy was going to give our most vital national security secret away to the Russians.
[01:57:15]  And when he asked him what it was, he said it was the UFO file, the alien presence.
[01:57:19]  If you take that, and there's a number of pieces along that line, one of them from Philip Corso, which I'm going to read tonight, and a quote from Joseph's book, actually.
[01:57:30]  Which book is that?
[01:57:31]  Let me see which one that is.
[01:57:33]  It's Covert Wars and the Clash of Civilizations.
[01:57:37]  Great things in here that this book is from seven years ago.
[01:57:42]  I think it's seven years ago.
[01:57:43]  And it reads, a lot of it reads like, you know, The headlines from today.
[01:57:50]  But what's interesting is when we go into that kind of aspect of it, we're looking directly into someone who is associated not only with Antarctica, not only with the UFO file, but with the Kennedy assassination.
[01:58:09]  It really starts to open our eyes when we get to Berkner.
[01:58:14]  So let me get a couple of things down on Berkner while I go into this.
[01:58:20]  Miss Olivia, what do you got?
[01:58:21]  I do have a question about Berkner.
[01:58:22]  W.C. Ray wants to know Is Berkner in any way connected to T.T. Brown?
[01:58:29]  You know, it's interesting to consider they must have looked at T.T. Brown's work because T.T. Brown, they called in around the Robertson panel.
[01:58:39]  The problem is they didn't want publicly the T.T. Brown stuff out.
[01:58:45]  So it's hard to say.
[01:58:48]  What's interesting, and what I did find him in a scientific group with, was John Trump.
[01:58:54]  I found them both on the same board.
[01:58:58]  So that's kind of interesting.
[01:59:00]  Let's face it.
[01:59:02]  So there's a Berkner John Trump connection.
[01:59:04]  I think you're going to probably find a T.T. Brown connection, but nothing overt I can put on the record right here.
[01:59:11]  Let's put this on the record and then I'll read the Berkner piece from the memo.
[01:59:23]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[01:59:25]  Okay, this is X Series 150.
[01:59:28]  We made it to 150, right?
[01:59:32]  And it's great to have all of you out there in the ideas room.
[01:59:34]  This is going deep on the Blue Secret Space Program and JFK's association with that deep aerospace secret and the UFO file mystery.
[01:59:47]  We're going to be taking your questions here shortly.
[01:59:49]  I'm going to bring in a little bit more about this Kennedy aspect and Lloyd Berkner.
[01:59:58]  And James McDonald.
[02:00:00]  And of course, we know just a week before Kennedy's assassination, he was out there talking to Von Braun and talking all about what they were going to do with the space program from there.
[02:00:15]  And he thought, finally, you know, we kind of have, we're both operating with the same space program.
[02:00:24]  These guys aren't making their own and they're double tracking everything.
[02:00:26]  What was going on there?
[02:00:28]  At a certain point, he sends in Robert McNamara.
[02:00:31]  His defense secretary actually threatened NASA to say, Look, I don't know what you're doing with these guys, but if you take Blue Gemini and make this duplicate program of it, I'm going to kick the whole thing back to the military, even though NASA is supposed to be non military.
[02:00:49]  I'll just have them deal with it.
[02:00:51]  And so, guys like Von Braun and James Webb and all that are like, Oh, don't worry about it, Mr. President.
[02:00:56]  We'll make sure that the effort isn't duplicated.
[02:00:59]  But they were duplicating those efforts, and he was watching it early on, and he was saying, This is a problem.
[02:01:05]  Because he, I think he must have dawned on him that they were creating a secondary program that the public couldn't see.
[02:01:13]  And his whole thing was about a public space program.
[02:01:15]  That's why he wanted the Russian involvement for kind of world transparency.
[02:01:19]  So there's a lot, a lot of problems with that for the deep state.
[02:01:24]  Now, Philip Corso, most of you.
[02:01:27]  Before you move on, Jason T. May wants to know.
[02:01:30]  So Berkner was MJ 12, right?
[02:01:32]  Yes.
[02:01:33]  He's listed in all the MJ 12 documents.
[02:01:36]  I have another piece from Berkner.
[02:01:38]  I haven't given up on that yet.
[02:01:41]  I'll do a little more on him.
[02:01:43]  But just to give you Corso supporting this.
[02:01:47]  And you know, the day after Roswell, one thing we can say about Phil Corso, he was who he said he was and where he said he was, which is unlike a lot of people in these different stories.
[02:01:58]  General Trudeau was, you know, the person who sponsored him, and he worked in the Eisenhower administration for Kennedy and Johnson and all the rest.
[02:02:10]  And he said that they moved the UFO file through the Foreign Technology Office, which is how they hid it.
[02:02:18]  And how they kept it out of the public's hands.
[02:02:21]  Now, there's an article here that goes back to 2010, but it just touches on the types of briefings that he was giving to Robert and John Kennedy.
[02:02:33]  Newly released video interview reveals that Robert Kennedy, while U.S. Attorney General, received a classified briefing on a crashed UFO that was extraterrestrial in origin and whose technology was secretly being reverse engineered.
[02:02:47]  According to Lieutenant Colonel Philip.
[02:02:49]  Corso served as the head of the U.S. Army's foreign technology desk from 61 to 63.
[02:02:55]  He personally briefed Kennedy about the Army's effort to seed extraterrestrial technologies into the private sector.
[02:03:01]  Interviewed shortly before his death in 98, Corso revealed for the first time that Bobby Kennedy contacted him for his knowledge on highly classified national security information.
[02:03:13]  Corso, from 53 to 57, had served on a number of National Security Council committees under the Eisenhower administration.
[02:03:22]  Corso's revelation is further evidence that President Kennedy was aware of the extraterrestrial origin of UFOs.
[02:03:28]  Kennedy sought to gain information on UFOs from various sources, and Bobby Kennedy sought him out.
[02:03:34]  Now, what he would say is that he briefed Kennedy weekly on the UFO piece.
[02:03:42]  And what's interesting, and of course, he died in 98, and some videos came out later through an Italian interviewer.
[02:03:51]  And those videos are available.
[02:03:53]  You can watch what he had to say.
[02:03:54]  But what he said was that the X 15, which I've cited here before, constructed by paperclip Nazi Walter Dornberger, who ties into the JFK mystery, if only through the fact that his protege, Michael Payne, was who Lee Harvey Oswald was staying with outside of Dallas.
[02:04:18]  What's interesting is when you get around the whole piece relating to Corso, You start to see that the X 15, the way he describes it, was not just to have a technological marvel, but it had a very specific purpose, which was it was meant to chase UFOs to get further information on them because they were so fast that we needed the fastest possible manned space plane.
[02:04:48]  So we could get that kind of real time data.
[02:04:50]  That's interesting.
[02:04:51]  And I think that starts to open up a whole piece about.
[02:04:57]  What that technology is for, and why we were working to break those limits.
[02:05:01]  And it seemed after the while we were like, oh, we don't want to go to the moon, we don't want to do anything.
[02:05:06]  But back then, we're furiously going crazy trying to figure out what the UFO file is.
[02:05:12]  Then, publicly, all that disappears.

=== Kennedy Speech Disappearance (09:50) ===

[02:05:15]  The transparency of the Kennedy administration goes away, and you're stuck with Johnson and Nixon.
[02:05:21]  And that's basically it.
[02:05:24]  What's interesting is I found information and a letter from Carter trying to see if NASA will reopen the UFO question.
[02:05:33]  And then he gets shot down from NASA and the military saying there's no way to approach this now.
[02:05:42]  We also know that the CIA director was George Bush at the time, and that he asked Carter for all the UFO files, and he says, You don't have a need to know for that.
[02:05:52]  And Carter fires him.
[02:05:54]  So, you know, there are some interesting things that take place right in the heart of all this that I think open up the door.
[02:06:02]  Okay, Lloyd Berkner, we're not done with you yet.
[02:06:07]  There's a lot coming on IGY and Berkner, by the way, just to let you know.
[02:06:12]  But in terms of this episode, let's talk about what was going to happen at the trademark, what the ceremony was about.
[02:06:22]  So there's a series of articles about it that came out in 2008 in the Dallas Morning News.
[02:06:31]  And it says To make the most of this moment in the national spotlight, they detailed three options for consideration.
[02:06:39]  The most elaborate of the plans required a helicopter, a military honor guard, and a high school band.
[02:06:44]  The proposal had Kennedy presenting.
[02:06:46]  To Berkner, a flag that had flown over the nation's capital at Kennedy's request.
[02:06:52]  This is the interesting thing the flag would be couriered probably by a center scientist from the site of the presentation at the Dallas Trademark through helicopter to the Richardson campus.
[02:07:02]  Closed circuit TV broadcasts from campus would show the courier being met by the honor guard and band awaiting Kennedy's command to raise the colors with the new flag.
[02:07:13]  Another plan drew on World War II military service that linked Kennedy and Berkner.
[02:07:18]  Kennedy famously commanded the U.S. Navy patrol boat PT 109 in the Pacific, and Berkner was a rear admiral in the U.S. Naval Reserve.
[02:07:28]  They're saying that he gained global recognition for the scientific breakthroughs that he made while he was in the Navy.
[02:07:35]  In this scenario, Kennedy would present to Berkner a ship's bell engraved with the quotation from Kennedy's 1960 inaugural address.
[02:07:44]  Now, the copy of the speech disappeared.
[02:07:51]  Nobody knew how to get it.
[02:07:53]  And so a number of people asked LBJ and his staff for it.
[02:07:58]  And he was like, oh, yeah, we'll get that for you.
[02:08:01]  In 1966, a phony version from the establishment comes out and says, oh, yeah, Kennedy was going to talk about like science in general.
[02:08:10]  But it doesn't make any sense to what was going on with his ceremony with Berkner.
[02:08:15]  So the actual speech disappeared to history.
[02:08:18]  And then there's another piece here.
[02:08:23]  So fate intervened, however.
[02:08:25]  The carefully crafted agenda was abandoned when the word came Kennedy and Texas Governor John Connolly had been shot while riding together in an open car through downtown Dallas.
[02:08:37]  Now, on their way to the trademark, Mitchell, who was putting together the ceremony, later wrote If President Kennedy had been taken by helicopter to the campus and thence to the trademark, would the course of history have been changed?
[02:08:51]  Mitchell's question can never be answered, but the president's undelivered speech remains unobtained.
[02:08:59]  So, what's interesting is there's that whole piece that happens about Berkner and his own shock.
[02:09:08]  But let me give you a weird shock about Berkner.
[02:09:11]  So, Berkner, although publicly skeptical, just like his friend Donald Menzel, who we know was a double agent on the UFO file, publicly debunking it privately, as Stanton Friedman found over here at Harvard, researching the daylights out of it.
[02:09:31]  Berkner in a similar role, he gets approached by James McDonald, who has all these ins in the LBJ administration.
[02:09:42]  And LBJ says, Look, I cannot stop James McDonald.
[02:09:45]  Like, get him in there and let him figure it out.
[02:09:49]  I'm going to send an aide over there, and Berkner and my aide and McDonald are all going to meet and give me a report when it's done.
[02:09:57]  So, in a house in Texas, James McDonald.
[02:10:01]  Who's this very outspoken UFO researcher, scientist?
[02:10:06]  He meets with Lloyd Berkner in 1966 and he meets with LBJ's aide.
[02:10:15]  They have a three hour conversation.
[02:10:19]  McDonald takes a series of notes, et cetera.
[02:10:25]  Berkner, two weeks after this meeting, will go to Washington.
[02:10:32]  To meet with a group, an aerospace group, and give a presentation.
[02:10:37]  Along the way, he goes and he has a fast food burger.
[02:10:42]  And when he goes up to give the speech, he dies in front of the entire group.
[02:10:48]  Two weeks after meeting with LBJ's aide and James McDonald about the UFO file.
[02:10:56]  So that was the end of Berkner unceremoniously, who had been involved, as I said, with our friend.
[02:11:07]  Down in Antarctica, Colonel Byrd.
[02:11:10]  What's interesting, Admiral Byrd, what's interesting is something happened there.
[02:11:18]  He was, I believe, 62 years old.
[02:11:22]  So, you know, certainly he had more of a career left to him.
[02:11:28]  When we go back into that period of time, the secretiveness around the UFO file and the development of the Blue Secret Space Program against Kennedy's wishes.
[02:11:38]  We were a major football in all this, and Berkner himself, um, you know, may have put two and two together that this big announcement that Kennedy was going to make with him, with this flag over the White House and everything else.
[02:11:54]  Now, you can go really far and say they were going to announce UFO disclosure.
[02:11:58]  I don't have any idea what the announcement was going to be, but in Berkner's memo, he says it was going to have big implications internationally and nationally.
[02:12:08]  So he could have easily have announced we're going to the moon with the Russians, which would have Completely short circuited this whole Cold War stance on the part of the deep state.
[02:12:20]  So, did they find out what he died of?
[02:12:23]  He had a heart attack.
[02:12:24]  Oh, like the heart attack gun?
[02:12:26]  Yeah.
[02:12:26]  I mean, there you go.
[02:12:27]  They could have, they said, well, you know, when he was in his 20s, he had, you know, something with his heart when he came back from Antarctica.
[02:12:34]  It could have been, I suppose, but some of the timing there right after he met with McDonald seems to be shocking.
[02:12:40]  And McDonald had waited for that meeting with Berkner for years because.
[02:12:44]  He'd been around the whole thing of the Robertson panel and criticized it.
[02:12:47]  I'm going to read some quotes of that.
[02:12:50]  But remember, it was Kennedy sending in McNamara over and over again to NASA and basically saying, I don't want the paperclip group to duplicate the regular space program.
[02:13:02]  Why are there two versions of Blue Gemini?
[02:13:04]  This is a very crucial aspect.
[02:13:07]  And there's a whole episode we did on Blue Gemini.
[02:13:09]  I think it's X Series 8.
[02:13:11]  So some nostalgia there as well.
[02:13:14]  A couple of quick things here that I'll get, and then we'll get to your questions.
[02:13:20]  Uh, five minutes, Miss Olivia.
[02:13:22]  I've really gone over time.
[02:13:24]  Okay, JFK had managed to achieve three major agreements which worked to stop the militarization of space.
[02:13:31]  Um, one was open space, which was a tacit agreement with the Russians whereby reconnaissance satellites were allowed.
[02:13:39]  The second was a nuclear test ban treaty and which would eliminate testing of nukes in space.
[02:13:46]  That was crucial.
[02:13:47]  Kennedy understood that.
[02:13:48]  The third was a Russian US UN agreement banning.
[02:13:53]  WMD in space.
[02:13:54]  John J. McCloy was JFK's arms control negotiator.
[02:13:59]  McCloy wound up running the Warren Commission.
[02:14:01]  Immediately after the assassination, LBJ stopped any efforts to demilitarize space.
[02:14:08]  They held true, that held true throughout his presidency.
[02:14:12]  His only achievement was a treaty in 67, which was only formalized.
[02:14:16]  It was the tacit agreement which JFK had already reached with the Soviets.
[02:14:22]  The major issue of space weaponization was reconnaissance.
[02:14:25]  For this purpose, the National Reconnaissance Office was set up, the NRO, which the public wouldn't learn of in earnest until 1995.
[02:14:33]  They would learn something about it in the 70s.
[02:14:35]  But again, this is what I want to point out with the period that we're in and the way that people talk glibly about how the government will give us some kind of transparency on the UFO file.
[02:14:45]  There may be organizations set up right now dealing with this who are already taking us into a totally different place in terms of UFO secrecy, et cetera.
[02:15:00]  We don't even know the names of the organization.
[02:15:03]  That's how the government can be.

=== Alvarez Pyramid Secrecy (15:16) ===

[02:15:05]  They can literally play this out.
[02:15:08]  So we can't be sort of sitting ducks for that or for any kind of CIA version of UFO disclosure.
[02:15:14]  That is for sure.
[02:15:15]  Okay, a couple of quotes from McDonald here, James McDonald, and what he had to say about the Robertson panel.
[02:15:24]  You got something?
[02:15:26]  Oh, Uber Fighter said the minor league baseball team in Roswell is called the Roswell Invaders.
[02:15:32]  And that's great.
[02:15:33]  And I was remembering that it was the Roswell Grays in X Files, right?
[02:15:37]  Yeah, I can tell you that.
[02:15:39]  Well, I'll save that one because we have a very interesting baseball thing coming up.
[02:15:46]  So I'll save what it is.
[02:15:47]  But you reminded me of it.
[02:15:50]  The Roswell Grays.
[02:15:51]  Okay.
[02:15:54]  McDonald talking about the Robertson panel.
[02:15:59]  In my opinion, that panel set back UFO research 20 years, he said.
[02:16:04]  Five of the finest scientific minds in the country, each one a specialist who could have attacked the problem from the most puzzling aspects UFOs present to us.
[02:16:13]  Dr. Robertson, a mathematical physicist, a veteran of wartime intelligence missions specializing in relativity and cosmology.
[02:16:23]  Luis Alvarez, a nuclear physicist who co invented the GCA system of tracking aircraft in fog and rain.
[02:16:33]  Now, I want to say this about Alvarez.
[02:16:36]  Alvarez was on the Robertson panel with Berkner.
[02:16:39]  Alvarez created all of the photography specialty for Blue Book.
[02:16:46]  So, all the UFO file photo reconnaissance, that's all directly the result of Alvarez's work.
[02:16:53]  Later, he would be called in to create a phony rundown and rebut once the Zapruder film got out.
[02:17:02]  He was the photo expert that the media went to and said, rebut this.
[02:17:06]  So, he was used for that.
[02:17:07]  But what I found out about him is that he was using the cosmic rays piece.
[02:17:16]  Through SRI for measuring if there was a gap or a secret room inside the Great Pyramid.
[02:17:24]  So you have Alvarez on the UFO file working with the Robertson panel.
[02:17:31]  You have him as the guy rebutting the Zabruder film.
[02:17:34]  He's a triple hitter.
[02:17:35]  There he is inside the Great Pyramid using cosmic rays to determine if there's a secret chamber in the pyramid.
[02:17:42]  Very unusual, and more on Alvarez to come.
[02:17:49]  Then he says, Do you have any idea how many underwater anomalies are listed in Blue Book files?
[02:17:57]  They had Thornton, an astronomer who was an underwater weapons specialist.
[02:18:02]  Why did he never comment on this?
[02:18:04]  Then he says, Lloyd Berkner was an expert on the ionosphere and terrestrial magnetism.
[02:18:13]  Where's his report?
[02:18:15]  Aren't you curious about UFOs that are reported by groups of witnesses, including men on Navy ships, emerging from and diving into lakes and oceans?
[02:18:23]  And Lloyd Berkner, right there on the panel with you, and an expert on ionization, would he be interested in knowing that a top scientist at JPL is hypothesizing that the Heflin photos, which are the classic 1952 UFO photos, possibly show that the UFO was surrounded by ionized air?
[02:18:45]  So, you know, basically, McDonald gets to question one of the Robertson panel people named Early, and he.
[02:18:54]  Is just hitting him with all these questions.
[02:18:56]  And then he gets stonewalled for over a decade.
[02:19:00]  So he understood what was going on there.
[02:19:04]  And so the final thing on McDonald, I want to bring this to the point, which is he said, I requested a Xerox copy of the Robertson report.
[02:19:12]  The copy was prepared for me, but not given to me because a superior officer suggested that since another agency, quote, was involved, they'd have to check before releasing it to me.
[02:19:22]  McDonald was assured that he would receive a copy within a few weeks, but he didn't.
[02:19:27]  Quote, In fact, I never received it.
[02:19:29]  The other agency was the Central Intelligence Agency.
[02:19:32]  They ruled that this document did not come under the 12 year rule and reclassified it.
[02:19:38]  Although a so called sanitized version was later released, the full document remains undisclosed.
[02:19:44]  That's from 1968.
[02:19:48]  Now, he gave reports to Congress saying, you know, we need to get this UFO file piece out there.
[02:19:56]  And he took more and more flag.
[02:19:58]  Eventually, they did the whole thing.
[02:20:00]  Oh, he got depressed, and then, you know, he wandered off.
[02:20:05]  So then he was found in a hospital, and they said, Oh, he shot himself in the head and he was blind now.
[02:20:13]  Then he takes off from the hospital, wanders around, and falls down a mountain.
[02:20:18]  That's the inglorious end of James McDonald, who asked one question too many deep, deep on the UFO file.
[02:20:25]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[02:20:27]  This is X Series.
[02:20:30]  JFK Blue, Secret Space Program, the UFO file mystery, going deep.
[02:20:35]  And now, Miss Olivia, we're going to turn it over to you and your questions.
[02:20:39]  All right.
[02:20:40]  You're up.
[02:20:40]  Let me get to the Specious Exchange.
[02:20:42]  Sorry, it has a lot of questions.
[02:20:45]  So, wait, why did he call it the Blue Secret Space Program?
[02:20:49]  I must be behind, lol.
[02:20:53]  Wait, why was IGY tied to UFO sightings?
[02:20:58]  And is there any credence to the covert Kubrick interview about moon filming?
[02:21:03]  Oh, they're all great questions.
[02:21:05]  Look, I pointed out that the International Geophysical Year, they caught a number of UFOs on it, but the person who set it up was Lloyd Berkner, who'd just come off the Robertson panel.
[02:21:18]  Who was a key person on the UFO file?
[02:21:22]  Now, the other thing that's key about him, of course, is his Antarctica connection and then his connection with being the person that Kennedy's going to visit and give a national, international speech with at the Dallas trademark.
[02:21:39]  So his UFO connection is gigantic.
[02:21:43]  What's interesting is the teams, as they go around, they photograph all of these UFOs.
[02:21:48]  One of the places, That I have a series of declassified reports from is Deception Island.
[02:21:57]  What?
[02:21:58]  A place in Antarctica called Deception Island.
[02:22:01]  Who named it that?
[02:22:03]  It's interesting.
[02:22:04]  It's named that because of its unusual shape.
[02:22:06]  It's actually a very large landmass.
[02:22:10]  But what's interesting about it is the amount of UFO reports pouring out of that place from just the people who are there, and it's international.
[02:22:19]  So you have the IGY people saying, hey, look, there's UFOs all over the place.
[02:22:23]  Join.
[02:22:24]  And then if you go through and you check it, you'll see this guy who's doing work there.
[02:22:28]  He reports, well, you know, this Argentinian sailor, while he reports, there's all this UFO activity right down there.
[02:22:35]  When we go into Operation High Jump, which takes place in 47, and we have Admiral Byrd revisiting, you know, his old stomping grounds, something happens down there, which spooks him dramatically.
[02:22:49]  They call the rest of the thing off.
[02:22:51]  When he comes back, he says, we're going to be engaged in this battle with something else.
[02:22:57]  We know there's a huge something that he encountered down there.
[02:23:03]  And the rumor has always been that he saw UFOs.
[02:23:06]  Well, if you look at the reports for UFOs at Deception Island in Antarctica, then you'll find they were having tons of reports around this.
[02:23:18]  And then the people who were doing the International Geophysical Year, which looks to me like an excuse for two reasons.
[02:23:26]  One, I think that it's about recon.
[02:23:29]  And UFO espionage, because there really wasn't any reason to do it again.
[02:23:37]  They realized, oh, yeah, they did one in the 19th century, let's do one now.
[02:23:42]  Berkner put it together, and it was a way to utilize satellites for the first time.
[02:23:48]  And what's interesting is the first satellite that gets launched is Sputnik.
[02:23:52]  So the Russians supposedly beat us in that.
[02:23:55]  And it is Berkner who announces to the world that the Soviets have beat us.
[02:23:59]  From a New York press conference.
[02:24:01]  So Berkner, very interestingly placed all along the way.
[02:24:06]  Remember, as a young whiz kid, he went along for two years with Admiral Byrd to the frozen wastelands of Antarctica and set up a radio station.
[02:24:16]  This guy, definitely, absolutely fascinating background.
[02:24:20]  Yes.
[02:24:21]  Okay, so let's talk about Alvarez for a minute.
[02:24:24]  Tara Petra Wild says Alvarez was the first to describe the dinosaur asteroid impact, I believe.
[02:24:31]  So, everybody learned about Alvarez in geology class.
[02:24:35]  And Giza Death Star community says a Nazi connection to Luis Alvarez of the interviewer of Dr. Heinz, forgive me, I don't speak German, Schliecke fame.
[02:24:46]  So.
[02:24:48]  Wow.
[02:24:50]  Yeah.
[02:24:51]  Well, I mentioned this to Joseph the last time we talked off camera, which is that the International Geophysical Year was going to require your incredible.
[02:25:06]  Aptitude for names and people because the people that I've found associated with it, just that I've laid out here, absolutely fascinating.
[02:25:14]  But the things that you could find with it, watch out.
[02:25:17]  So I'm hoping I'm going to send you some info about IGY and I'm hoping that you can look at it through that lens because a lot of those people, yeah, watch out.
[02:25:29]  And it's interesting too about Alvarez that you really get to see kind of the foundation of the X series when you look at Alvarez.
[02:25:37]  He's He's a real X character, and I'll show you why.
[02:25:40]  I always talk about X Protect and X Share.
[02:25:43]  And by the way, I think Berkner is right between the two.
[02:25:45]  I think he's an X Share, X Protect.
[02:25:48]  He's positioned between the two.
[02:25:49]  I think he's trying to please both.
[02:25:52]  But it's interesting because if you look at Alvarez, what does he have?
[02:25:57]  As I said, he's in charge of making sure that the Sapruder film doesn't show what it shows.
[02:26:05]  One, as a photography expert, two, he's also.
[02:26:10]  In the Robertson panel, and he has to publicly play down anything there.
[02:26:13]  So, UFO file, Kennedy assassination.
[02:26:16]  What else is he associated with?
[02:26:18]  Cosmic rays searching the Great Pyramid for what?
[02:26:21]  Atlantean ruins, basically.
[02:26:22]  So, you've got the Atlantis piece, you've got the UFO file, and you have the Kennedy assassination.
[02:26:27]  That guy, he's an ex player.
[02:26:29]  If you want an ex player, Alvarez.
[02:26:33]  Very, very strange.
[02:26:34]  And when I was reading his bio, it's one of those things where you could not put it down.
[02:26:39]  And then over and over again, when they would get to something that you could tell.
[02:26:43]  Was going to lead into a controversy, they spun away from what it was.
[02:26:48]  And I found myself over and over again saying, Why didn't they follow up on those?
[02:26:52]  Why didn't they follow up on that?
[02:26:54]  So Alvarez is just deep in the heart of all this.
[02:26:58]  And then they're saying his expertise is nuclear physics.
[02:27:02]  Yes.
[02:27:03]  Najat Madhuri, there's a theory out that JFK and Khrushchev were going to invade the underground city in the moon and the beings who run it.
[02:27:11]  That's why JFK had to go.
[02:27:13]  What does DJ think of that?
[02:27:18]  I think it's more likely that they were going to go to the moon together with the idea that they would show what was really on the moon.
[02:27:31]  I don't know.
[02:27:32]  I haven't really seen anything.
[02:27:35]  I've seen convincing things that Kennedy was aware of the danger of the UFO file and that there were threat cases associated with it.
[02:27:46]  So he also was worried about the Russians taking.
[02:27:50]  A UFO over a nuclear base because he was aware of the interest of UFOs in nuclear bases.
[02:27:56]  So he was taking this whole approach of, like, well, you know, I want to make sure this doesn't happen.
[02:28:03]  So how do we make sure this doesn't happen?
[02:28:05]  That was part of sharing the high threat cases in the memo that comes out November 12th.
[02:28:12]  Now it comes out in tandem with documents that are at the JFK Library about outer space affairs having to do with a joint mission.
[02:28:22]  There's no question about that.
[02:28:24]  Sergey, who is Khrushchev's son, confirmed that in the background, Kennedy was sharing letters back and forth, going around the State Department about setting up this moon landing.
[02:28:35]  And he thought, we'll put the whole space race behind us.
[02:28:38]  We'll do it for the good of the world.
[02:28:40]  We'll lower nuclear tensions.
[02:28:41]  It's a win win everywhere.
[02:28:43]  Why does this have to be the job of one nation to go and outdo the other guy?
[02:28:47]  We're going to do this together.
[02:28:49]  The paperclip people are looking at that and they're saying to themselves, we.
[02:28:54]  Fought and killed 25 million Russians.
[02:29:00]  We're not going to go to the moon with them and we're not going to share the UFO file with them.
[02:29:04]  No way.
[02:29:05]  That's why, if you really thread it, that's why E. Howard Hunt's comment in private to his best friend saying Kennedy was assassinated over the UFO file makes sense because he was going to, he says he was going to give our most vital national security secret to who?
[02:29:23]  To the Russians.
[02:29:25]  He was going to share the UFO file.
[02:29:28]  For them, this is blasphemy.
[02:29:31]  Because from where they're coming from on the CIA paperclip side, they're going to their superior place, and the Russians are going to be totally not included in this.
[02:29:42]  They're going to be dominated by a Pax Americana.
[02:29:47]  So we still have this problem.
[02:29:48]  Look at the Biden administration chasing over a nuclear cliff to try to force what?
[02:29:58]  The change out regime change of Vladimir Putin.
[02:30:04]  It's insane.
[02:30:04]  It's an insane policy.
[02:30:06]  And here we are, $120 billion later in Ukraine, and they've lost what, a quarter of a million people?
[02:30:14]  It's insane.
[02:30:16]  So they're pursuing the same course.
[02:30:18]  There's something strange about it that runs even deeper than what we know, though.

=== Dulles Translator Profile (04:56) ===

[02:30:21]  And it may rest with the UFO file because they tried to make sure that there was someone present during Kennedy and Khrushchev, and he said, no.
[02:30:32]  Just the translator.
[02:30:34]  Now, this is interesting because they tried this again.
[02:30:38]  Remember, they didn't have meetings during the Johnson era with the Soviet counterparts.
[02:30:44]  That's weird, too.
[02:30:46]  But, you know, Nixon would do it.
[02:30:51]  But then you get to Reagan.
[02:30:53]  And then when Reagan meets Gorbachev, he also says, I don't want anyone but a translator when we go to Reykjavik.
[02:31:02]  And they're like, no, no, George Shultz, you know, all these other people have to be with you.
[02:31:06]  Well, we know later that Gorbachev will say, Reagan came to me and says, if the aliens attack us, will you help us?
[02:31:12]  Can we work together on this?
[02:31:14]  So there's something strange going on about that.
[02:31:17]  Trump and Putin, they freaked out.
[02:31:20]  You had to peel them off the ceilings.
[02:31:22]  People still can't remember this.
[02:31:24]  They went bonkers to the point of, I thought they were going to bark on TV.
[02:31:30]  What happens if they start climbing trees like monkeys?
[02:31:32]  I mean, the CNN, MSNBC resistance to the Trump.
[02:31:38]  Putin's relationship was insanity.
[02:31:40]  And they spent all this time and money trying to prove he was a puppet and all the rest of it.
[02:31:44]  That's all UFO file to me.
[02:31:46]  So, this is the, you know, when you really are looking and working from that perspective of the UFO file and geopolitical affairs, the whole thing makes a lot more sense.
[02:31:57]  You throw in the archaeology wars and you're getting even closer.
[02:32:01]  Yes.
[02:32:02]  Najat had a follow up.
[02:32:03]  It had to be the translator who sold out JFK and spilled the beans.
[02:32:13]  I think that there were preparations on the dullest side for Kennedy's assassination from day one.
[02:32:22]  But I think that the plans got moved up and he was able to get other people on board with him because of the UFO file request.
[02:32:31]  And they, you know, there's a very interesting thing in a book by a guy named Corson.
[02:32:42]  And he talks all about how the CIA had done a personality profile of President Kennedy, but it was an unusual one.
[02:32:53]  And they usually would do these after the person was elected, but before they took office.
[02:32:59]  And when Kennedy got in the race, they did a psychological profile on him.
[02:33:05]  And in that profile, I guess there were a lot of different things.
[02:33:09]  But one of the things they thought they could do, they were worried about him because he had a lot of independent ideas.
[02:33:15]  But one of the things they thought they could do was, you know, add this kind of fatherly advice from Dulles.
[02:33:22]  And when Kennedy got into office and realized the amount of things that.
[02:33:27]  The CIA had been snowballing the Eisenhower administration on.
[02:33:30]  He didn't trust them at all.
[02:33:31]  And once they got him involved in the Bay of Pigs thing, they openly and nakedly tried to show that they could blackmail him into attacking Cuba.
[02:33:42]  And instead, he turned the tables on them and fired Dulles, which, you know, it's funny to say fire Dulles.
[02:33:48]  It's kind of like fire Fauci.
[02:33:50]  He was such a part of the government, he had such deep tentacles that firing Dulles was an incredible earthquake.
[02:34:00]  And we know that Dulles's deputy, that Charles Cabell, was the brother of the mayor of Dallas.
[02:34:10]  And who's going to shepherd Kennedy into the attack zone, you know, the ambush zone, but the mayor of Dallas?
[02:34:17]  So these things are important.
[02:34:21]  Like that piece becomes available to us over the lens of time.
[02:34:25]  This is the problem with the era that we're in.
[02:34:27]  Just like so much of the reporting around 9 11 seems ridiculous now.
[02:34:31]  You think about it.
[02:34:33]  The guy's passport came out of the building and an FBI agent found it on the ground.
[02:34:36]  I mean, it's ridiculous, right?
[02:34:38]  But in that period, you could be, the public at large could be convinced of almost anything.
[02:34:46]  And as we get further and further kind of erudite around these subjects, the thing about the Kennedy assassination is just complete absurdity.
[02:34:57]  Because the Kennedy assassination is one group removing the leader of another group to take over the presidency and not doing it at the ballot box.
[02:35:06]  Doing it at the point of a gun.
[02:35:08]  This is the nature of the problem.
[02:35:10]  And that's a huge realization.
[02:35:14]  And, you know, people have believed it for a long time.

=== German Scientists Nazi ET (07:15) ===

[02:35:17]  But what's not included and what's missing is the aerospace aspect, because it's the aerospace aspect that gives the power base, the trigger mechanism, and the secrecy aspect.
[02:35:30]  That's related to the UFO file.
[02:35:32]  So for me, that's the big piece that's missing in all this, as you can tell by me bringing it up so.
[02:35:37]  Darn often.
[02:35:38]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist X Series 150.
[02:35:42]  This is JFK Blue, Secret Space Program, UFO File Mystery.
[02:35:46]  We're taking your questions and we'll take some more right now with Miss Olivia.
[02:35:51]  Karen Carpenter.
[02:35:52]  So, along with the UFO File, Operation Paperclip is at the crux of world events then and still is today?
[02:36:00]  Well, yeah.
[02:36:01]  I mean, the setup, the problem is the philosophy.
[02:36:08]  Of the people coming in through the paperclip program.
[02:36:13]  And it's interesting because RFK Jr. talks also about the Japanese paperclip, you know, taking in a lot of those scientists, the kind of big pharma types from Japan, the germ warfare types.
[02:36:28]  So there's a problem with the nature of taking this on.
[02:36:33]  Now, don't get me wrong, the Soviets also took their fair share of German scientists, but supposedly we got the cream of the crop.
[02:36:40]  And what's interesting about this, though, is the command structures of the people that we got.
[02:36:46]  Stayed in place.
[02:36:47]  And in some of the cases, and I always found this interesting, and it's actually in the book, the Covert Wars book I mentioned by Joseph Farrell, that Werner von Braun insisted that he get Walter Dornberger, who was his boss, and that they get him out of the judgment at Nuremberg for crimes against humanity for the mistreatment of slave labor for building the V 2 rockets.
[02:37:17]  So That he gets him out of that mortal danger of execution, basically, to become the vice president of Bell Helicopter.
[02:37:26]  I mean, it's incredible if you think about it.
[02:37:29]  And then the irony is so beyond irony because it's going to be his protege, Michael Payne, that Lee Harvey Oswald stays with.
[02:37:41]  That's, you know, you're really touching into the vein of what happened, what took place with the assassination when you get around that.
[02:37:53]  And you're around NASA, you're around the end of the German technology coming out, and you're around that secret support structure of these people supporting each other and getting back into power, as it were.
[02:38:08]  And I think it's very interesting that we get these comments later from von Braun saying, look, you know, they're going to pull out these different things, and the last one is going to be a UFO threat, and they're going to use it for emergency powers.
[02:38:22]  That, to me, is a prediction that's coming true.
[02:38:26]  There's no question about it.
[02:38:27]  Yes.
[02:38:29]  Liz Starwalker.
[02:38:29]  So the German scientists actually did have ET contact and were given technology?
[02:38:35]  I mean, I think that there's an ET component with the Nazi aspect.
[02:38:43]  So you can easily see that they may have achieved the development through their.
[02:38:51]  Remember, they did all these programs looking for their roots in Atlantis.
[02:38:55]  They had a deep, deep occult program, as we know.
[02:38:58]  So, you can definitely ascribe aspects of the advancement of the technology.
[02:39:03]  But when you look at how advanced the Germans were, I mean, this might be something that goes beyond just, hey, you know, aliens gave them advanced technology.
[02:39:12]  They may have been the reincarnated Atlanteans.
[02:39:16]  And there's a fascinating reading from Casey in 1937 where he says if you look around at the rulers of the world right now, you know, nine out of 10 of them are basically back, you know, Atlanteans.
[02:39:30]  Back to wreak havoc or fulfill themselves.
[02:39:33]  So, there's an aspect there, which is that advanced technology comes in with a soul group and they're fighting it out.
[02:39:43]  And can they fight it out again this time without destroying the world as they did in Atlantis?
[02:39:48]  This becomes a question.
[02:39:50]  That's where my head goes with that one.
[02:39:53]  But, you know, it's pretty interesting.
[02:39:57]  I'll tell this story because it's X Series 150 after all.
[02:40:01]  But I've gone on record about these unusual meetings I had with someone who was very much like Casey, a guy named Rick Thurston.
[02:40:09]  And I'd asked him in a number of different readings to give me information about all these things.
[02:40:18]  One of the things that he saw when he was coming out of the reading that he had given for me were all of these Germans in uniform carrying a craft physically.
[02:40:32]  In uniform, carrying it through this forest, and it was a down craft.
[02:40:38]  But that one was always interesting.
[02:40:42]  It was his vision, yes, but he had an unusual quality, like a Casey like quality to him.
[02:40:49]  And, you know, I think that they did have access to that.
[02:40:55]  And I think in Gigi Young's work, we find the connection, the occult connection on the Atlantean side with the Nazis, inescapable with their advancement.
[02:41:06]  And we have to remember, if you look to the Olympics in 1936, they televised it.
[02:41:14]  So, you know, we didn't have, we developed television in 1926.
[02:41:22]  There was a patent for it.
[02:41:23]  In fact, I think Germany hired the guy to come over and make it for them.
[02:41:27]  And he was a very interesting character.
[02:41:30]  But we didn't have it in America until 1950.
[02:41:34]  So think about how advanced they were on that front.
[02:41:38]  So, we have a very advanced culture going in.
[02:41:41]  By the time the end of the war, where they've accelerated everything with the Bell technology and all the rest of it, and spiriting away the Bell technology to God knows where, but most likely Argentina, then we're in unusual waters in history.
[02:41:59]  And what's fascinating is when Kennedy goes over to Berlin to see East Berlin and all the ruins in West Berlin.
[02:42:11]  With Forrestal after the war.
[02:42:14]  And he's invited him not as a congressman.
[02:42:17]  He's not even in office yet.
[02:42:18]  He's a journalist.
[02:42:20]  And he writes there that, you know, he didn't believe, from all the things he was hearing, he didn't believe that Hitler had been killed in the bunker.
[02:42:28]  Think about that.
[02:42:30]  An early conspiracy theorist, our friend JFK.

=== Hemingway Villa Vault Secrets (02:55) ===

[02:42:33]  Yes.
[02:42:34]  Ready?
[02:42:34]  Yeah.
[02:42:35]  Wilbur Wobbler, is Admiral Byrd's secret diary that popped up a few years ago credible?
[02:42:43]  Yeah, I've heard things about it, and I think what's interesting about the diary is it gives different dates.
[02:42:59]  You know, it's been challenged because it gave wrong dates for things or whatever, but it's possible that it's the real thing.
[02:43:07]  Yeah, I would say it's possible.
[02:43:08]  A lot of these people did keep diaries and they kept them vouchsafed.
[02:43:12]  What's interesting is there was a fascinating.
[02:43:17]  Whole thing about Ernest Hemingway we've done in relation to the hot zone.
[02:43:21]  But what Mary Hemingway did was she got all of these documents and things out of Cuba.
[02:43:27]  But one of the things that I believe that she had was footage that Ernest had been doing on all of these cities that were underwater between Bimini and Cuba relating to ruins in the hot zone, Atlantean ruins there, because we had talked about how Casey's family and Hemingway's family were close and he gave.
[02:43:50]  Readings for Ernest and the mother, and everything else.
[02:43:53]  And then suddenly, Ernest has this incredible fascination, has to live in Bimini, you know, where Casey said, Well, there's a temple rising.
[02:44:02]  I think that all that was in Hemingway's villa in Cuba, and that there was a vault there that they needed to get out.
[02:44:15]  And a document came out, and oddly enough, it involved Ed Lansdale, who I mentioned earlier, and it was RFK, and it was.
[02:44:25]  The CIA director and it was Lansdale, and they were discussing a national security incident that would take place at Hemingway's villa.
[02:44:37]  And when they went back later and they were like talking to Kennedy historians, like an aide, you know, like Arthur Schlesinger, and they'd say, Well, what was this?
[02:44:47]  They say, I have no idea.
[02:44:48]  I don't even know what it is.
[02:44:50]  Well, I think obtaining the information in the vault.
[02:44:56]  That Ernest had gathered over the course of time for a different intelligence agency searching for these things was part of what that was.
[02:45:06]  And, you know, what happened instead was that Kennedy somehow arranged it so that a shrimp boat smuggled the stuff out.
[02:45:17]  Still, probably a lot of stories about what really happened there, untold stories indeed.
[02:45:24]  But it's a fascinating question.
[02:45:26]  Yes.
[02:45:26]  Timothy, guessing, has DJ ever discovered a connection between JFK?

=== Harvard Menzel Outreach Letters (03:52) ===

[02:45:29]  Kate and Donald Menzel?
[02:45:33]  Yes.
[02:45:34]  It's actually very fascinating.
[02:45:36]  And it happened in my discussions with Stanton Friedman.
[02:45:39]  This is absolutely remarkable because he went through over at Harvard all of the Menzel communications and he found something had been left in there, which was this outreach to Kennedy saying, basically, I have all these skills, you know, and intimating I can help you with the UFO file.
[02:46:01]  You read me?
[02:46:03]  And it turned out the more he dug into it that Menzel had been on all the Magic 12 boards and everything else, in that he was living a double life.
[02:46:14]  He was an agent for the debunkers to be a Harvard astrophysicist, saying none of this stuff exists, but he was offering himself to Kennedy in this role.
[02:46:23]  And what's interesting is Friedman went with all this information to Menzel's family and says, you know, do you want to investigate this together?
[02:46:33]  Because, you know, We could really make some tracks and, you know, explore the work that he was doing or whatever.
[02:46:40]  And they were like, no, no, you're wrong.
[02:46:42]  You know, he was against the UFO thing.
[02:46:44]  Like, he was a patriot.
[02:46:47]  Stay away from us.
[02:46:49]  And it's interesting because he revealed so much of that on my show.
[02:46:54]  And I thought it was a staggering breakthrough on his part because this is how the UFO file thing operated, the real UFO file thing operated in secret, exactly like that.
[02:47:06]  The false disclosure piece, which includes, you know, Avi Loeb, Gary Nolan, Elizondo, those are just people that are fed, you know, they're all CIA working people.
[02:47:22]  They're just fed information from the CIA controllers to feed out to the media to have this fake idea of the UFO threat come to fruition and the different aspects that they're working through.
[02:47:36]  So, you know, when we get into understanding the relationship of somebody like Menzel publicly debunking but privately researching, that reminds me, I think of like Mark Lehner and Zahi Hawass privately getting the intel from the Casey Foundation and the support and publicly debunking, you know, saying, oh, you know, Casey was wrong.
[02:47:59]  There are no Atlanteans.
[02:48:01]  You know, the Egyptians built this with slaves.
[02:48:07]  You know, that whole nonsense that we've lived under, you know, and a lot of that is falling away through incredible efforts of people who've done the work over the years and the people in the ideas room.
[02:48:19]  I think it is these types of conversations that open us up dramatically on this.
[02:48:24]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[02:48:26]  This is X Series 150, and it's fantastic to be here with so many of you.
[02:48:31]  We're going to be taking a few more of your questions here, and it's JFK Blue, Secret Space Program.
[02:48:39]  This is the name.
[02:48:40]  That they use to develop the secret space program, Project Blue Book, Blue Beam, and others.
[02:48:47]  The UFO file mystery have been deep into it tonight, but Miss Olivia, it will get deeper with your next question.
[02:48:53]  You can actually just go off on this question because this is the meta question.
[02:48:58]  Luminesa Lux, what is to gain from keeping the UFO file so secret that would merit the killing of presidents and such?
[02:49:06]  What are they protecting?
[02:49:08]  Because it's a lot.
[02:49:10]  Yeah.
[02:49:13]  Oh.
[02:49:15]  Well, it's not just the presence of aliens, in my opinion.

=== Car Technology Effects Mystery (02:43) ===

[02:49:22]  It has to do with the effect that the technology generates.
[02:49:29]  And I call the effect apotheum because it's a kind of physics splitting, physical reality distortion thing that happens.
[02:49:40]  And it's so interesting because when you really go through those cases, the thing that always got me.
[02:49:46]  About UFOs.
[02:49:47]  There's an interesting story, for example, in Ray Fowler's books.
[02:49:53]  And it takes place in Massachusetts, in Lemonster.
[02:49:57]  How far away is Lemonster?
[02:49:58]  Maybe a half hour.
[02:49:59]  I don't know.
[02:50:00]  Maybe about 45 minutes from here.
[02:50:02]  And there's a couple, it's 1968, who are driving back and they go directly to, they're heading home and they pass a cemetery in Lemonster.
[02:50:16]  And there's a UFO hovering over the cemetery, and it's got this incredible glow about it, and there's all this fog around it.
[02:50:28]  And this guy can't believe it.
[02:50:29]  And their car stops.
[02:50:30]  So that's the first weird electronic problem.
[02:50:34]  Then he gets out of the car, and he's like, I have to see what this is.
[02:50:39]  He gets closer, and he's paralyzed by a beam that comes out of the thing.
[02:50:43]  Then he's paralyzed, and then the wife starts to freak out.
[02:50:48]  And the car turns on and off and does all these types of things.
[02:50:53]  Then the craft takes off, and that cloud starts to move in their direction, and they're covered in the stuff.
[02:51:04]  And the car is covered in the stuff.
[02:51:06]  And they get back in the car, the guy can kind of start to feel his physical body being able to move again.
[02:51:12]  He does have a car accident later that night.
[02:51:15]  But so Fowler gets into the case, tracks down the relatives that they call, the police that they got in.
[02:51:22]  Contact with, you know, verifies just what good witnesses they are.
[02:51:27]  You know, whatever those are, apotheum effects that are taking place, and you find over and over again the thing about paralysis, the thing about sleep, the thing about missing time, the thing about passing through objects.
[02:51:41]  Um, the fact that this thing was in a graveyard is so weird, I guess that's the real spin on that one.
[02:51:47]  But, um, there are so many cases like that that I think we can really learn a lot about the UFO file.
[02:51:54]  Isn't there a like I'm trying to remember the name of that movie with Johnny Depp.
[02:51:59]  About the 1950s cult movies about grave robber aliens.
[02:52:05]  Oh, yeah.

=== Oath Schools and Unpredictability (15:56) ===

[02:52:06]  That's right.
[02:52:07]  I think that is, yeah.
[02:52:10]  I can't believe it.
[02:52:11]  Plan nine.
[02:52:12]  Yeah.
[02:52:12]  Plan nine.
[02:52:13]  Ed Wood.
[02:52:13]  Ed Wood, great movie.
[02:52:15]  Yeah.
[02:52:16]  Fantastic.
[02:52:18]  Well, they did just about everything with UFOs in the 50s movies.
[02:52:21]  It is interesting, though, because you get into unusual stories like that.
[02:52:26]  And what you realize is we lose all those stories and everything.
[02:52:30]  When you get into the whole like Knapp, Corbell, Circus, Elizondo thing, it's all this weird stuff about threats, you know, weaponized, you know, all that stuff.
[02:52:42]  All the weirdness, the paranormal activity associated with this phenomena goes out the window.
[02:52:51]  And that's by design because those are the real things that are associated with it.
[02:52:55]  This other thing, you know, forget it.
[02:53:00]  You know, it's clickbait, one, it's CIA bait, two, and it has nothing to do with real UFO research.
[02:53:09]  It's just, you know, the CIA getting off of their own UFO threat thing and hoping the public will go along with it.
[02:53:17]  So it's very interesting how distinct it is.
[02:53:20]  And when you study the literature of guys like Friedman, Fowler, John Mack, and all the rest of it, it's such a different world.
[02:53:27]  You realize that they've done down the culture of research when the whole thing should have gone up, right?
[02:53:33]  Those guys would have looked ahead and said, Hey, there's going to be incredible things about UFOs.
[02:53:38]  The only thing is that maybe UFOs are more widely spoken of in the controlled media because the CIA allows them to, because, hey, they're ready to release the Kraken of the UFO threat.
[02:53:50]  Yes.
[02:53:52]  State Wench 2.
[02:53:53]  Does DJ think the UFO beings could be Atlanteans that survived with their tech?
[02:54:00]  Yeah, that is the question.
[02:54:02]  It has to be considered.
[02:54:04]  Look, When you look at the information from the mystery schools, the public mystery schools like Anthroposophy, Theosophy, the Casey work, Gurdjieff's work, they all mention how advanced the Atlanteans are.
[02:54:19]  I always bring up the story about Ezekiel and how they asked Casey, can you describe to us what the Atlantean technology was like?
[02:54:29]  And he says, well, it's the same thing that Ezekiel described, but that was a much later date.
[02:54:36]  That Ezekiel describes has all these, you know.
[02:54:38]  I saw the face of a lion, and you know, I heard the incredible like lightning and the clouds and all this stuff.
[02:54:48]  So, the craft that he encounters, according to Casey, is an Atlantean craft.
[02:54:53]  So, somebody around 2000 BC, when Ezekiel's around, still has the Atlantean technology.
[02:55:00]  So, it must open up the question that somebody kept it.
[02:55:04]  You know, the only question is.
[02:55:06]  Where did they keep it?
[02:55:10]  And this becomes, you know, a really interesting question because when you get later into this whole rediscovery of these things in the culture, did somebody keep the genuine article over time?
[02:55:26]  Including when you get into Da Vinci and you're looking at some of the airship drawings, you know, you have to look at that and say, this is somebody who understood a lot about aerodynamics or somebody.
[02:55:41]  Who's talking to him does.
[02:55:43]  So, possibly we're talking about a traditional history that goes by.
[02:55:47]  There's no flight, you know, there's the dark ages and all the rest.
[02:55:52]  But maybe a group has preserved the whole thing, you know.
[02:55:56]  And I don't think that there's any doubt that the mystery schools held on to the information and the technology of certainly the knowledge of it.
[02:56:08]  And the whole thing about the two eye stone that Casey brings back up what does he say is in the Atlantean Hall of Records under the Sphinx?
[02:56:16]  He says, Well, it's the whole thing about Atlantis top to bottom, but the construction for the two ice stones in there, that would make it a very attractive target for the archaeology wars.
[02:56:29]  So, all of the intrigue around people getting thrown off the Giza Plateau, you know, they're just like, Hey, we don't want Robert Schock and Graham Hancock on there, you know.
[02:56:37]  I mean, that's changed now.
[02:56:39]  They can go there now, but for a while, they were literally prevented from doing their research.
[02:56:43]  It's ridiculous.
[02:56:44]  So, I think.
[02:56:48]  That piece, you know, and the whole Pawgate thing that we brought forward.
[02:56:52]  Remember, there's three Hall of Records.
[02:56:55]  There's the Egyptian one, which, you know, we can see it's very difficult to get at.
[02:57:01]  But the Bimini one, maybe, maybe there's some possibilities to get at that.
[02:57:06]  The one in Yucatan, there's a lot, you know, there's actually a sphinx and a paw in relation to that as well.
[02:57:16]  So, one of the things we brought forward in Pawgate is that the paw may be the symbol.
[02:57:23]  For keeping the Atlantean history and the knowledge of the two eye stone, the advanced technology of that period.
[02:57:31]  I don't think there's any doubt that there's a reason why there's a Yucatan Sphinx you've never heard of until we did it on this program.
[02:57:39]  Yes.
[02:57:40]  I got to read this one.
[02:57:41]  Kay Gray says, My aunt lived by a graveyard, and one night she saw a UFO in the sky over the graveyard.
[02:57:46]  She said it came down and was hovering over the graves.
[02:57:49]  This is back in the 70s.
[02:57:50]  I love this.
[02:57:51]  See, this is UFOs are fun.
[02:57:53]  Yeah.
[02:57:54]  And they have not been fun for the past five years or so.
[02:57:57]  It's been a drag.
[02:57:59]  But this is fun.
[02:58:01]  Right, right.
[02:58:02]  Since the New York Times bogus thing.
[02:58:03]  Yeah.
[02:58:04]  Well, that's the thing because the CIA squeezes the life out of everything.
[02:58:10]  That's the nature of what they do.
[02:58:11]  Man, ain't it the truth?
[02:58:12]  You know, it's interesting too, though.
[02:58:15]  One of the things you find, speaking of the technology surviving and all the rest of it, is the amount of accounts of cigar shaped craft.
[02:58:27]  Is very interesting and it's it recurs through all of the early cases of the UFO file.
[02:58:34]  When you look at a dream that Casey has, a prophetic dream that he gets a reading on, he has a dream that he reincarnates in 2100 in Nebraska, and Nebraska is on the coast, and that he knows everything about Edgar Cayce at seven years old, and he goes and he tells scientific authorities, and they take him in a cigar shaped craft.
[02:59:02]  And they bring him to New York, and he's looking down at all of the different places, and they are all made of glass, all the houses.
[02:59:10]  So that's really interesting.
[02:59:11]  Yeah, what do you got?
[02:59:12]  Rehoboth Farm says now they're abducting dead people.
[02:59:14]  Good grief.
[02:59:15]  But, you know, just thinking about what we were talking about earlier about abductions and searching for, you know, uncorrupted DNA and knowing what we know now about them taking like woolly mammoth DNA, you know, they're bringing back, just like Jurassic Park, these beings to life.
[02:59:34]  Why couldn't you do that?
[02:59:36]  With beings that are in a graveyard.
[02:59:40]  I'm just wondering out loud.
[02:59:42]  I think the abduction thing in hindsight looks a lot more like a DNA harvesting operation over the course of about 80 years.
[02:59:54]  Might have gone on much longer than that.
[02:59:56]  But whoever was grabbing that could have been doing it, it could have been for multiple purposes.
[03:00:04]  There might be like a Noah's Ark thing to it.
[03:00:08]  Or it could be, you know, there could be time travel associated with it.
[03:00:12]  I think that these things have to be looked at as scientific possibilities, regardless.
[03:00:18]  Because the UFO phenomena, look, it's so the level that we have it on that they have fed it down to us.
[03:00:29]  Forget about anything that they have said on the government level.
[03:00:32]  It's a joke.
[03:00:33]  What we have learned are from people's individual accounts.
[03:00:38]  And we also can learn throughout history the sightings, accounts, the interactions in particular, fascinate me.
[03:00:46]  And it's fascinating to me that that is the thing that the CIA and the media like to play down the most.
[03:00:54]  They don't want people to talk about having experiences with these things at all.
[03:01:00]  They really don't.
[03:01:01]  That's not what they're interested in.
[03:01:03]  They're interested in, oh, there's an ominous threat out there, and X Protect needs to protect you.
[03:01:09]  And, um, You know, we need to have emergency powers to prevent.
[03:01:14]  You know, it's all about you have to be safe.
[03:01:16]  It's a wonderful thing.
[03:01:17]  I actually did print it out.
[03:01:20]  RFK Jr. made a couple of fantastic points.
[03:01:25]  One of them was about how they had turned safe into the new religion and that it didn't matter.
[03:01:32]  You know, never mind if you're free, never mind if you're this, everything is about safe, right?
[03:01:38]  But I was about to say I had it to read, but.
[03:01:43]  I'll probably find it before we end here.
[03:01:45]  But he started to talk about how they've used this as a way to kind of centralize.
[03:01:53]  It's like the ultimate psychological jujitsu, because in fact, you're becoming less safe by the moment that they're telling you you're safe and that you should do nothing and be safe.
[03:02:03]  Go ahead.
[03:02:05]  Wendy Eater, do they, in quotes, intend to keep the secret, in quotes, of the space program, in quotes, for their own benefit forever?
[03:02:14]  And Caitlin Fallon says, how can we force their hand?
[03:02:19]  Well, the first thing is not to fall for this phony version of disclosure.
[03:02:25]  That's the first thing.
[03:02:27]  So once they know they're dealing with a savvier public, they won't try as hard.
[03:02:36]  But I think the way to force their hand is to put certain people under oath.
[03:02:42]  And I think in relation to the UFO file, there's a way to do that.
[03:02:46]  And the mechanism would happen through Congress and through the White House.
[03:02:51]  One of the people I've suggested that you could put under oath and learn a great deal from, who's still with us, is Bobby Inman.
[03:03:00]  And I think, you know, he's somebody who, as deputy CIA director afterwards, talked exactly and said, We know exactly who's piloting the craft.
[03:03:13]  Not only that, you know, not only do we know about UFOs and try to redevelop them, but we also know who's piloting them.
[03:03:20]  Well, how about having him under oath tell us who that is?
[03:03:25]  And I don't think that his security oaths would still be in full force.
[03:03:32]  I think.
[03:03:33]  You know, it would be a good time to be able to do that.
[03:03:36]  He knows a great deal because, you know, there's a wonderful picture of him giving the career lifetime intelligence award to George Joannidis, who we learned was behind and created the Oswald Project, the ultimate psychological operation for the government.
[03:03:56]  He could tell us why they gave him the career intelligence medal, and he could tell us why he said that.
[03:04:04]  Not only did we know who was operating the craft, but we knew who was inside.
[03:04:08]  You could put him directly under oath.
[03:04:09]  I mean, you know, that would be something that you could do right off the bat.
[03:04:15]  Inman's 90 years old now, I think, but he's still with us and he's still a healthy Navy guy.
[03:04:21]  I would love to see that.
[03:04:23]  And, you know, it's not just him, there are others.
[03:04:25]  But I think he could do that in a way also where he could say, well, you know, I kept the secrets for this government because they told me to, but he could reveal a whole heck of a lot.
[03:04:37]  And he's somebody who's in a position to know a great deal about the UFO file and the things that they've kept from us.
[03:04:44]  See, I wouldn't trust something like, you know, Elizondo or something.
[03:04:49]  He, you know, he's already been given his CIA marching orders and now it's all about book deals and stuff like that.
[03:04:56]  Those guys, those people, their job, just like Nolan, is to create.
[03:05:01]  Nolan admitted it.
[03:05:02]  That was the interesting thing he put on the record.
[03:05:06]  He said, We used the threat narrative.
[03:05:08]  I played his clip in the last show, in fact.
[03:05:11]  So, Nolan's on record saying, you know, what Dark Journalist was trying to tell you for the last three years about the UFO file, that we were trying to gin up a UFO file threat, is true.
[03:05:24]  And that the people who were in the UFO field who were saying, no, they're not doing that.
[03:05:29]  Well, if they weren't doing it, why is Nolan saying that they've been doing it?
[03:05:33]  And Nolan's in the CIA.
[03:05:35]  I mean, it's obvious that they're doing it.
[03:05:37]  So, that's not really a discussion anymore.
[03:05:41]  So, the people who, you know, Are doing this thing in the UFO field who are like big figures in that field who are saying, No, there's no threat.
[03:05:52]  Now you really have to wonder.
[03:05:54]  It's like, What?
[03:05:55]  You know, that's how I got.
[03:05:57]  I was like, It was like invasion of the body snatchers.
[03:06:02]  The people in the UFO field when the TTSA showed up started acting the exact opposite of who they were.
[03:06:08]  It was very strange.
[03:06:10]  And it continues.
[03:06:11]  It's absolutely bizarre.
[03:06:13]  Yes.
[03:06:14]  Foo provider, I feel fairly certain that they singled out many of.
[03:06:17]  Us as 1950s, 60s children for early efforts to tap psychic capabilities unfettered by excessive critical thinking?
[03:06:27]  Oh, yeah.
[03:06:28]  There are all kinds of programs.
[03:06:31]  And this is what's the terrible thing about Gaia TV doing all that exploitation of the super soldiers and all that kind of thing, because those are real programs.
[03:06:40]  And they targeted psychic kids.
[03:06:44]  You know, it's interesting.
[03:06:45]  When I was on Alex Jones' show, he knew a lot about it.
[03:06:51]  And that was really interesting because, you know, I think that what happens is at a university level, they do it, but they do it much earlier also.
[03:07:06]  And I think, you know, if they could get their hands on someone who is a natural psychic, if they could get like a Gigi Young, you know, they probably consider it a missed opportunity when they don't because they need those types of psychic.
[03:07:24]  Interactions in order to operate the craft, also.
[03:07:28]  This is something that we've learned, which is the craft doesn't operate.
[03:07:31]  You can't send a mechanic in there to fly a UFO, you know.
[03:07:37]  And they're very unpredictable stuff.
[03:07:39]  The idea of those UFO pilots, what you hear is that when they send them in there, bad things happen.
[03:07:49]  One of the reasons that Von Braun asked Russell Targ, as I mentioned earlier, To develop a way for them to test their ESP.
[03:07:59]  And you can get that app at espresearch.com.

=== Digital Craft Pilot Solutions (12:32) ===

[03:08:02]  It's free.
[03:08:03]  It's the same app that he developed from von Braun years ago.
[03:08:06]  It's an iPhone app now.
[03:08:08]  And I think it's absolutely fascinating.
[03:08:12]  Yes.
[03:08:13]  Space Ghost.
[03:08:15]  So, which aerospace company makes the Phoenix Ghost drone?
[03:08:18]  And are there links to Brennan, Elizondo, and Count Detula?
[03:08:23]  You know, I'm going to play.
[03:08:24]  Thank you for mentioning Detula because.
[03:08:28]  He's very important, I think, in all this.
[03:08:33]  I'm going to play something.
[03:08:35]  This is him talking about UFOs and in relation to the February sightings and the shoot down, and our good old friend, General Van Hurck.
[03:08:51]  Hold on.
[03:08:53]  Quite frankly, the classification of this object.
[03:09:03]  Second, it was described in the short news conference that the Pentagon had as not resembling an aircraft.
[03:09:12]  But then again, they didn't confirm that it was a balloon.
[03:09:17]  So it will remain an unidentified flying object until we get further verification of what it might be.
[03:09:25]  This is interesting to me because there he is right in the heart of things.
[03:09:30]  And there they are pulling him in.
[03:09:33]  And this is the guy directly associated with all these different aerospace companies.
[03:09:38]  Including the kind of unusual ones that we cited at the beginning of the show.
[03:09:43]  And he's the expert that they call in saying, well, you know, I don't think that Van Herk really gave us too many details, but it's obviously a UFO.
[03:09:53]  This guy, you know, this guy is in the line of the secret space program, and he's part of that.
[03:10:02]  His knowledge base, you can tell, just listen to the guy and research him a little bit, is off the charts.
[03:10:09]  And his experience in NATO and aerospace and all the rest of it, you're going to be seeing this guy in the middle of all this.
[03:10:17]  And he does not show the arrogance of, you know, I'm going to just ignore all this stuff.
[03:10:28]  He seems to me the kind of guy who's going to go out and, you know, talk and be like in the scene and talk about the UFO thing openly and sort of hold a very interesting position on it.
[03:10:42]  But yeah, it's David Depula.
[03:10:44]  And I'm never going to get over that name.
[03:10:52]  He's a perceptive guy.
[03:10:53]  He's smart.
[03:10:54]  You can see why they have him on the battlefield.
[03:10:57]  He's a hawk.
[03:11:00]  And he thinks that the only way the Ukraine war is going to end is if we beat Russia.
[03:11:06]  He's going for Curtis LeMay, too, on that one.
[03:11:10]  And let's not forget, city officials, aerospace firm to vacate.
[03:11:15]  The test and training site in Roswell Daily Record.
[03:11:19]  Well, the Aerospace Company was testing something in Roswell.
[03:11:23]  What the heck was it?
[03:11:28]  I found the Kennedy quote actually.
[03:11:30]  And how would you like to read it while I find the other thing I'm looking for?
[03:11:37]  I can.
[03:11:37]  You can read a little bit about it.
[03:11:39]  It's RFP Jr.
[03:11:39]  Yes.
[03:11:40]  This is a great quote.
[03:11:41]  Go ahead.
[03:11:42]  Something monstrous is taking shape in America.
[03:11:45]  Formerly, It exhibits the synergy of state and corporate power in service of a tribal zeal that is the hallmark of fascism.
[03:11:54]  Yet, anyone who spends time in America and is not a brainwashed zealot can tell that it is not a fascist country.
[03:12:00]  What is coming into being is a new form of government and social organization that is as different from mid 20th century liberal democracy as the early American Republic was from the British monarchism that it grew out of and eventually supplanted.
[03:12:14]  A state organized on the principle that it exists to protect the sovereign rights of individuals is being replaced.
[03:12:19]  Replaced by a digital leviathan that wields power through the opaque algorithms and the manipulation of digital swarms.
[03:12:26]  It resembles the Chinese system of social credit and one party state control, and yet that too misses the distinctively American and providential character of the control system.
[03:12:37]  Wow, unbelievable.
[03:12:39]  This is the quality that we're getting with RFK Jr.
[03:12:42]  And I've still seen people kind of, you know, picking him apart for this or that policy thing.
[03:12:49]  Look how incredible this guy is and what a fascinating presence he is.
[03:12:54]  On the world stage.
[03:12:56]  And the idea that he could rise and take the Democratic nomination from Stepford Biden.
[03:13:02]  I mean, it's really, you know, this is quite a moment in history.
[03:13:05]  And I think RFK Jr. is somebody who could bring a lot of this forward.
[03:13:09]  In answer to your question about which company it was that made the Phoenix Ghost, it's Avex Aerospace, A E V E X.
[03:13:19]  And they were the ones who had the training range in Roswell, New Mexico.
[03:13:22]  They still have one there, but they're moving it out because they got problems.
[03:13:26]  Through the city council, thinking that they were secretive.
[03:13:29]  The Phoenix Ghost is a different type of aircraft.
[03:13:31]  It's a one way aircraft that's effective against medium armored ground targets, said retired Lieutenant General David Depula, Dean of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies, and a member of the AVEX board.
[03:13:43]  Like I said, one to watch for sure.
[03:13:47]  I want to round this all out by saying that it was President Kennedy's vision of peace in space and that the whole human race could gain by this endless ocean of discovery.
[03:13:58]  In space, and the idea of arming space was the exact opposite of what he was trying to prevent.
[03:14:04]  And when he pledged us to land someone on the moon and return him safely to Earth in the decade of the 1960s, I'm not even sure that he realized what he was getting us into, but it was an attempt to bring the world into a better place.
[03:14:22]  And that legacy of Kennedy's work, I think, remains with us.
[03:14:27]  And that spirit of Camelot, it Is there with RFK Jr.?
[03:14:32]  So I think it is something that we can have and something that he did fight for.
[03:14:39]  And it's an incredible sacrifice that he made, including the fact that he saved the world from nuclear holocaust by not listening to the neocons who are the same, very same types that are going now and bringing us to the brink of nuclear war with the Russians.
[03:14:56]  So we need exactly that kind of leadership.
[03:15:00]  And I can see in that big kind of Archetypes screen that force coming in on one side, and it is the Kennedy force with RFK Jr. on one side to smash the Biden regime, and then on the other side, the Trump forces coming in to smash the Biden regime.
[03:15:22]  That regime and its incredible neocon lust for war and secrecy and general depravity and degeneration in the culture needs to be stopped.
[03:15:37]  One of those two individuals can do it, and uh, so in that sense, they both have my support at this point, Miss Olivia.
[03:15:45]  Okay, um, so everyone is asking where they can find this quote.
[03:15:50]  This is a Twitter quote from Kennedy, yeah, that's actually on his Facebook.
[03:15:54]  Um, and I'm I think that he repeated it also on uh, here, I'll take that.
[03:15:59]  Can we just have you actually post this on Twitter?
[03:16:01]  Sure, um, it's uh, yeah, it's it's in a uh.
[03:16:09]  An article for Tablet, and he tweeted it.
[03:16:15]  He posted it on his Facebook and tweeted it on social media as well.
[03:16:20]  But yeah, that is very powerful.
[03:16:24]  And I think we can learn a great deal from the things that he's putting out there.
[03:16:28]  And we're going to see some very exciting things, I think, come out of RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign, including the fact that he's being harangued by the media as this anti vax zealot and all this stuff.
[03:16:43]  And there's a lot of censorship in store, but um, watch out, this is going to get heavy duty.
[03:16:50]  Uh, so and with that, I want to end on this note, yes.
[03:16:54]  So, Jay Vandervest says, What practical solutions can we peasants do?
[03:16:59]  So, from a kind of body, mind, spirit angle, hitting all of them, first and foremost, we have to keep our sense of humor because then we keep our humanity.
[03:17:10]  I just wanted to add that.
[03:17:11]  It's really true.
[03:17:12]  And also, you know, you have to see, you have to look through a kind of positive lens the way that things are happening because just as this destructive force enters in, it's calling up.
[03:17:26]  Almost on a primal level from humanity, this response to it.
[03:17:31]  And I will say that with the technology, the stakes are higher than ever before.
[03:17:38]  But, you know, I think we faced off against dictators and the kind of world domination powers before.
[03:17:49]  This will be a unique battle in that they have tools that they've never had before.
[03:17:53]  But, you know, we're all in the fight.
[03:17:56]  And for me, you know, I think that.
[03:18:02]  There's a very important change that's happening.
[03:18:06]  But the thing I think that's important is there needs to be a kind of quickening on the part of the public in order to push off and head off a number of these disastrous tracks.
[03:18:22]  And going political, getting rid of the Biden administration is crucial because of the amount of centralized power involved.
[03:18:34]  And how they are part of this world government ethic.
[03:18:39]  So that's crucial.
[03:18:41]  But always on a day to day level, you know, it's getting that connection and doing what you do best, you know.
[03:18:47]  So hopefully with me, that's dark journalism.
[03:18:51]  So that's what I'm going to show up here to do for you guys.
[03:18:54]  And it's been fantastic being here with you tonight and also to celebrate 150 episodes of the X series where we've brought forward these ideas and gotten so much from you there and the ideas from it's been.
[03:19:07]  Excellent, Miss Olivia.
[03:19:08]  With that, I think we'll wrap up the evening.
[03:19:10]  Okay, I just wanted to add you know, everybody wants kind of the like just sound of a one sentence answer, and like there's a formula of what we can do, like the answer, right?
[03:19:24]  But ultimately, individually, we just have to be our best, and we know personally where we're failing or we're not living up to our own potential, whether it's with diet, we're taking the time for meditation, whatever it is, you know.
[03:19:37]  Having integrity with relationships.
[03:19:39]  That's it.
[03:19:40]  That's all we're asked to do is kind of take care of our own little corner of the world.
[03:19:44]  But if each one of us does that, then we kind of upgrade the culture.
[03:19:49]  And we will, once you take care of low hanging fruit, then we will be able, capable of handling fruit at a higher level.
[03:20:01]  Yeah, I think it's definitely one day at a time.
[03:20:04]  That is the nature of the kind of situation that we're in.
[03:20:08]  You know, nobody's as smart as all of us.
[03:20:11]  So I think coming together and finding those solutions together is definitely the way to go.
[03:20:17]  And remember, it is these conversations that we're having exactly the things that they're trying to prevent in the grand scheme of things.
[03:20:24]  And then the question becomes, why?
[03:20:27]  Because they're not going to stop these types of conversations.
[03:20:31]  It's not going to happen.
[03:20:33]  And with that, Miss Olivia, you're up.

=== Gary Robinson Prayer Strength (03:44) ===

[03:20:35]  The super chat is.
[03:20:36]  I actually want to throw this out there too.
[03:20:38]  Early, I think before we started, I was talking to Joseph about whether we pray for people like Bill Gates, et cetera, or do we basically pray to God to smite them?
[03:20:49]  And so Psalm 35 came up, he recommended, and it's, May they fall into the pit they've dug for us, may they become entangled in the net they've laid out for us.
[03:21:00]  But first, you pray that they repent.
[03:21:03]  But if not, this is what you pray for.
[03:21:05]  All right.
[03:21:07]  I can get behind that.
[03:21:07]  Okay.
[03:21:08]  All right.
[03:21:08]  So we have a bunch of super chatters to thank.
[03:21:11]  Yes.
[03:21:11]  Gill and Joy R., Eurythmia is Fun, Catherine Rorden, Kristen K., Bill Mayo, Robert Scott, Globe Atlantis, W.C. Ray, Erica Swenson Elliott, Wait a Minute 72, A. Maria, Medley Childress, Chris Joseph, Occult Fan, Bobby Boxglove,
[03:21:26]  John Folden, Wayne Peake, Sun Hero, B. Brax, Karen Carpenter, Terry Doherty, KLC Inspired, Doreen Hewitt, Eve for America 11, Jimmy Lyle Kenimer, Nathan Coldis, Susan Blackstone, Shelby C., Channeling the Heart, Barbara Joyce, Mer Bowman, Anunnaki, and State Winch2.
[03:21:45]  Thank you so much for your generous super chats.
[03:21:48]  Wow, incredible.
[03:21:49]  Yeah, your support means everything to us here and doing the show.
[03:21:53]  And to all those who supported us and our subscribers, thank you for keeping us going.
[03:21:59]  It makes all the difference and it allows us to bring these reports to you.
[03:22:02]  We will be back with you next week.
[03:22:05]  And we have some very exciting things coming up for you in June, including interviews that are going to blow your mind and new episodes of the X series as well.
[03:22:15]  But it's been so great to be here with you.
[03:22:17]  I'm going to shout out a couple of people here.
[03:22:21]  Gary Robinson, thank you very much.
[03:22:26]  I'm going to highlight you.
[03:22:28]  Give us the strength and knowledge to overcome them.
[03:22:31]  That's really, yes.
[03:22:33]  I like that.
[03:22:34]  That's a good one.
[03:22:36]  Jimmy Keminer, that's it.
[03:22:43]  Joseph, okay.
[03:22:44]  Thanks, DJ.
[03:22:45]  Olivia, good show.
[03:22:47]  It's great to have you here, sir.
[03:22:48]  I know you were just coming off your video chat, so fantastic.
[03:22:52]  Mod Wiz, go T cell on pathogens.
[03:22:57]  I think, listen, I agree.
[03:23:01]  Danielle Jorgensen, Eric Atkus, let's see, Alien Scientist, it's good to have you out there, sir.
[03:23:11]  Gary Robinson, Tim Houston, Montana Geology Tours.
[03:23:18]  Wow, I can only imagine the stories that you have.
[03:23:21]  Montana geology tours.
[03:23:22]  So many fascinating things about Montana.
[03:23:25]  Be the change you want to be.
[03:23:27]  Hey, hey, I like that one.
[03:23:29]  Starts with us.
[03:23:30]  Yes, it's always true.
[03:23:32]  It's what it comes down to.
[03:23:33]  I remember there's the Gurdjieff quote about, you know, when Ospensky says, What's the problem with students?
[03:23:39]  Like, what's the biggest problem?
[03:23:40]  And he said that they all expect roast pheasant to fly into their mouth fully prepared.
[03:23:48]  And, you know, we don't make roast pheasant these days, but I get the idea.
[03:23:52]  Oh, let's see.
[03:23:53]  Daniel for president.
[03:23:54]  That's hilarious.
[03:23:56]  Dodie Schmidt.
[03:23:57]  Now we're talking.
[03:24:00]  Blue Hearts.
[03:24:01]  Jennifer and Bucks.
[03:24:02]  This is a late good question.
[03:24:04]  Gary Robinson, how will RFK Jr. overcome the super delegates?
[03:24:10]  It depends on the level of demand, but we've seen a lot of power coming out of the RFK Jr. camp.

=== RFK Jr. Super Delegates Battle (02:20) ===

[03:24:19]  And if he has the votes, he has the votes.
[03:24:22]  They're not going to be able to do it.
[03:24:24]  So, but it is an incredibly uphill battle, and he's going to need every good intention, and he's going to need a lot of power behind him.
[03:24:33]  But he's an unusually articulate, strong, capable candidate.
[03:24:40]  And he really, in my opinion, has everything that's necessary to be a great president.
[03:24:48]  So, you know, we'll see how this comes together with him facing off against Stepford Biden.
[03:24:54]  That's really where a big piece of the fight is.
[03:24:56]  And then the other piece of the fight is, you know, them moving the classified phony.
[03:25:02]  Ginned up case against Trump on classified docs when we know they blow it off for everyone else.
[03:25:07]  Between that and the Stormy Daniels case, and you know, whatever else they can dream of, but um, they're going to try to stop Trump, they're going to try to stop Bobby.
[03:25:16]  And the question is, how is that all going to play out?
[03:25:20]  Um, if anything, we're going to be letting you know how that's going, but also hopefully right in the middle of it.
[03:25:27]  Uh, and you know, a few solid voices can change the uh, the outcome dramatically.
[03:25:34]  So, Ray Carr, Karen Carpenter, Doyle Wayne.
[03:25:38]  Excellent.
[03:25:39]  Great to see you all.
[03:25:40]  I know Kate's out there.
[03:25:42]  DJ Dees.
[03:25:44]  Excellent.
[03:25:47]  Blue.
[03:25:48]  Blue.
[03:25:48]  We're going to be doing a lot more on Blue.
[03:25:50]  You'll see.
[03:25:51]  You shall see.
[03:25:54]  Fantastic.
[03:25:55]  Karma Doc.
[03:25:56]  So many great people.
[03:25:57]  It never really ends.
[03:25:58]  Trident Five.
[03:25:59]  You took my line.
[03:26:00]  You got it.
[03:26:01]  We will see you all next week and have a fantastic weekend.
[03:26:04]  Of course, we'll be back if there's any special reports.
[03:26:07]  Or anything like that going on.
[03:26:08]  Otherwise, you'll see us next Friday and get ready for a stellar, and I mean stellar June.
[03:26:14]  Thank you so much, everyone.
[03:26:15]  And never let it be forgot that once there was Camelot.
[03:26:21]  God bless everybody.
[03:26:23]  And it says end broadcast after all.
[03:26:25]  But it never really ends.
[03:26:27]  It never really ends.
[03:26:29]  Thank you for X150, everyone.
[03:26:32]  We'll see you soon.
[03:26:33]  Happy Memorial Day.
[03:26:35]  Yes.
[03:26:36]  Happy Memorial Day.
[03:26:37]  Make it a fantastic, important weekend.