Dark Journalist - DARK JOURNALIST X-SERIES 58: SECRET ROSICRUCIAN AMERICA RUDOLF STEINER & FRANCIS BACON!
Aired: 2019-07-05
Duration: 02:47:47


=== July 4th Special Show (12:01) ===

[00:00:03]  And we are live.
[00:00:04]  This is Dark Journalist.
[00:00:05]  It's fantastic to be here.
[00:00:07]  It's already a huge crowd for this special July 4th show.
[00:00:11]  And as usual, I'm joined by the lovely Olivia.
[00:00:14]  Hi, everybody.
[00:00:15]  Olivia's very, she had the whole cowboy hat thing going on.
[00:00:19]  So she's celebrating the best of America.
[00:00:22]  And, you know, we have a very special show for you about the founding of America because, of course, we also know so many things about America and its mystical origins, but a lot of it is still shrouded.
[00:00:35]  In secrecy and kind of misinformation.
[00:00:38]  So it's quite important in this X episode 58 that we get into the Rosicrucian America.
[00:00:45]  And if you're going to go Rosicrucian America, you're going to find yourself standing face to face with Francis Bacon, who's a very, very fascinating character, a contemporary of Shakespeare and a major 16th century player.
[00:01:01]  And we're also going to bring in Rudolf Steiner and Anthroposophy and the stream of reawakening.
[00:01:08]  And bringing that Rosicrucianism into the 20th and 21st century, which was a very difficult role and something that Steiner pulled off with quite uniquely, let's say.
[00:01:22]  Steiner gives us real insight into the Rosicrucian creation of America and their version of what they called New Atlantis, which was something that a book that Bacon wrote at the end of his life.
[00:01:38]  So we're going to get into all this tonight, and it's going to be absolutely fascinating.
[00:01:41]  I'm so looking forward.
[00:01:43]  To getting into this with you because as I've been studying this over time, it really has come upon me that there's not so much about this in the public eye, and we really need to bring all those threads together and strip away some of the junk conspiracy around it to get right to that very potent facts.
[00:02:04]  Yes, Miss Olivia.
[00:02:06]  Do you want to get diverted immediately?
[00:02:09]  You knew it was going to happen.
[00:02:10]  Well, there's so many things for us to catch up on, of course, because we.
[00:02:15]  You know, we played the live Graham Hancock event while we were working on something.
[00:02:19]  But what do you got?
[00:02:21]  David Villanueva says Any comments about Dolan defending TTSA and calling ridiculous the claims of CIA PSYOP?
[00:02:28]  Do you want to address that at all?
[00:02:31]  Well, it's an interesting thing.
[00:02:32]  Of course, you know, Richard Dolan is someone who's been on this show, and I talked to Richard.
[00:02:37]  We're big fans of Richard's.
[00:02:39]  Yeah, I don't have any problem with Richard Dolan.
[00:02:41]  I will say this that generally, the move of the TTSA.
[00:02:47]  Is to try to co op these people in the UFO field.
[00:02:52]  And there's no doubt about it.
[00:02:55]  I've talked behind the scenes with a lot of people.
[00:02:57]  They're moving around with influence and with promises of things to come, et cetera.
[00:03:02]  And, you know, unfortunately, their biggest co op in the whole field is George Nat.
[00:03:08]  And that's very unfortunate because I've always appreciated George's work also, and I've spoken with George before.
[00:03:15]  So, yeah, it's nothing personal, but I'm not going to let the CIA into.
[00:03:20]  The UFO file, as far as the independent media is concerned, it's not going to happen on my side of the fence.
[00:03:27]  And anyone who is joining in that endeavor is going to find that these guys are very fair weather friends, as they've proven in the past anyway.
[00:03:35]  So it's a really bad move to get involved with them or to trust them.
[00:03:39]  And if you want really the opinion of people like Knapp and Dolan on the CIA, just go back to what they were saying in 2010.
[00:03:48]  They have a very hard line about the infiltration of the UFO community by intelligence types.
[00:03:53]  So it's not going to go down easy if suddenly they accept a counterintelligence agent who's connected to the Central Intelligence Agency, like Elizondo, who's been proven to be a liar and just misinforming the public left and right in relation to the things that he's brought out.
[00:04:11]  And this has really gone down easy at the Block Vault, which is John Greenwald's excellent site.
[00:04:17]  He has tracked the timeline, and we've had John.
[00:04:20]  On, and that was actually a great show.
[00:04:21]  Probably have him back for an update.
[00:04:24]  And I think when you get right down to it, it's very simple keep the CIA out of UFO disclosure.
[00:04:30]  What they like to do is send troll bots and all this kind of stuff after people who can out them.
[00:04:36]  And I have the background, and a number of researchers do.
[00:04:41]  You know, we're people who were schooled by Professor Peter Dale Scott.
[00:04:44]  So it's not going to fly very well to try to get the CIA as, you know, this kind of savior.
[00:04:52]  Group who's fighting demons in order to this mysterious threat that's out there.
[00:04:56]  Right, you just saw some sort of another History Channel special that was talking about the threat.
[00:05:02]  Yes, they are.
[00:05:03]  Now they have a new, now that as soon as TTSA's show is over on Friday, and it's kind of fascinating because that was good.
[00:05:11]  It actually said connection lost on the mouse.
[00:05:15]  They're already gunning for the mouse.
[00:05:18]  But that is pretty interesting, actually.
[00:05:22]  There's a show coming on, it's like a two hour special, and it's like the ET threat.
[00:05:25]  And they have everyone and their grandmother on that show talking about is ET coming to get us?
[00:05:30]  And this is the new thing for the History Channel.
[00:05:32]  They figured out that fear works because the TTSA and the CIA involvement in that organization that's to the Stars Academy, Tom DeLong's organization with Luis Elizondo, who's CIA, and Jim Semivan, who's three decades CIA, and everyone else in that corporate board is all CIA, CIA, Lockheed Martin, CIA.
[00:05:53]  So, you know, they definitely have a A definite agenda to co op the UFO file and make us think basically that they invented it December 6, 2017, which is a joke because that was just something that they pre arranged with Harry Reid in the New York Times.
[00:06:08]  So it is interesting though because we have all these things running this kind of stream of fear and threat, and that's what the CIA is about.
[00:06:18]  So when they get their hands on a narrative like the UFO file, that's the only thing that they want to push out there because they know they can succeed with that.
[00:06:25]  This entire thing and all the people like Chris Mellon.
[00:06:29]  Who is a deep intelligence guy for the Bush, Bush 2 W, and who gave us the Iraq War and all that stuff.
[00:06:39]  And he's a major figure to the Stars Academy.
[00:06:43]  So these are just the wrong people.
[00:06:44]  I'm sorry.
[00:06:45]  That's all there is to it.
[00:06:46]  And people and groups who've tried to cooperate with the CIA to try to get to the truth will find that the CIA is a double talking organization by nature.
[00:06:59]  And especially when they send counterintelligence people out there.
[00:07:02]  The ball game's over because those are professional liars by trade.
[00:07:05]  So it's a very different thing.
[00:07:07]  But yeah, I don't mind addressing that.
[00:07:09]  It was funny.
[00:07:10]  Somebody said you should debate Richard Dolan on this.
[00:07:12]  I said, I don't want to debate Richard Dolan on it.
[00:07:14]  I want to debate Luis Elizondo and Tom DeLong because it's their op.
[00:07:19]  They're the ones who are being kind of used as puppets and they're the ones who are putting this kind of hoax out on everyone.
[00:07:27]  Now, I do think that there are things popping up in the UFO field that are interesting.
[00:07:32]  And as you know, if you've been watching this show, I'm I think the UFO file is a very important part of transparency we need to bring forward.
[00:07:40]  That's why we do so many shows on it here on the X series.
[00:07:44]  And, you know, so it's just a simple rule keep the CIA out, and you'll end up doing a lot better.
[00:07:51]  And, you know, careful on the marketing hype as far as it goes.
[00:07:57]  But I think that it needs to be discussed.
[00:07:59]  You know, the elephant is already out of the closet on that.
[00:08:01]  They've already lied, they've already been proven liars.
[00:08:03]  The Intercept picked up on their lies as well.
[00:08:06]  So it's in major media now.
[00:08:08]  So it's not just, you know, dark journalists that's saying that.
[00:08:11]  There's a wide swath of researchers looking at this stuff and saying it's an op.
[00:08:15]  So.
[00:08:16]  Very important, though, you're going to see more and more around the UFO file confusion because the operations that they're trying aren't working as well as they wanted them to.
[00:08:27]  And so you're going to see this real kind of hit you over the head with, you know, this kind of ET fear aspect.
[00:08:35]  And we really have to be ready for something like that.
[00:08:37]  I have a great question.
[00:08:38]  I don't think anybody has the answer, but it's Ian Gifford.
[00:08:41]  How much of the high level clearance secrecy from the UFO file has to do with black ops money being stolen versus actual alien?
[00:08:49]  Information, secret tech, et cetera?
[00:08:54]  This is the big question.
[00:08:56]  No, they spend a lot of money to redevelop the UFO file and the technology involved.
[00:09:01]  But remember, it's a very important context for this show, which is that the UFO file resides, the X tech resides in the UFO file.
[00:09:11]  The X tech is something, though, that goes way back.
[00:09:14]  It goes all the way back.
[00:09:15]  You can find references to that X technology, the X steganography, all the way back to the Book of the Dead.
[00:09:23]  So, that secrecy that was kept for so long by these mystery schools through time is a very important cornerstone of what we're doing here.
[00:09:32]  So, it's funny because as we talk about groups and mystery schools that have kept that tradition for thousands of years, we can also talk about the secrecy that runs rampant through the government and how there are people in the government who are part of these secret societies.
[00:09:45]  So, that's a very kind of interesting arrangement back and forth.
[00:09:50]  But I think, in terms of an actual statistic, if you were looking to break down how much money is being stolen that way, I think that they do spend a lot of money redeveloping that work.
[00:09:59]  And I think that it's pretty easy to blow this money out the back door, developing up an entire space economy and a space grid, a global control grid to control everything on the surface.
[00:10:11]  This is what the goal has been.
[00:10:13]  And that's why you don't get any, you know, moonshots or anything for 50 years, no trips to the moon.
[00:10:19]  And suddenly they're like, hey, we're going back in 2024.
[00:10:22]  So, yeah, it's 52 years later, but thank you.
[00:10:24]  It's nice.
[00:10:25]  How much money have you spent in this program?
[00:10:27]  I mean, it's quite significant.
[00:10:28]  So, They've spent 50 years getting ready for the privatization of space.
[00:10:34]  And this is, I think, the really crucial aspect of what we're talking about here.
[00:10:39]  So, yes, you got any more questions around?
[00:10:41]  I think we should get to the show.
[00:10:42]  This is a really fascinating topic.
[00:10:44]  I knew.
[00:10:44]  Look, there's the earthquake that started off today with July 4th with a bang.
[00:10:49]  And we're glad that all of our friends in California are safe.
[00:10:53]  And this one is pretty close, though.
[00:10:55]  It was right between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.
[00:10:57]  So, very populated areas.
[00:10:59]  So, I think they dodged a bullet.
[00:11:01]  If it was a 6.4.
[00:11:03]  So good going.
[00:11:04]  We know that these are tricky areas, and there's a lot of lore associated with this whole thing about earthquakes and California going down and all this stuff.
[00:11:15]  And we hope that none of that happens.
[00:11:17]  But there's been a lot of warnings about this very active areas of earthquakes.
[00:11:22]  But the truth is, you just never know where those are going to hit.
[00:11:26]  But the people in California are very used to it.
[00:11:27]  I know when I lived out there, it was a shake a minute.
[00:11:34]  So.
[00:11:36]  Okay, episode 58.
[00:11:37]  This is very interesting.
[00:11:40]  I think since we're looking at July 4th here, and we're now talking 243 years of this incredible experiment of independence and freedom.
[00:11:51]  And that initial kind of burst of liberty that was happening, which took place here and took place in France, and really was this wave that was unstoppable, is definitely closely associated with the mystery schools.

=== Eastern And Western Initiators (03:45) ===

[00:12:05]  And you can find through the work of the public mystery schools, like anthroposophy, like theosophy, That they were anticipating this wave and that they, in fact, tried to oversee aspects of it to make sure that it went in the right direction.
[00:12:22]  And there's no doubt that the American Revolution was a major piece of that.
[00:12:25]  Many of the founding fathers were Masons, were very well steeped in esoteric brotherhoods and esoteric lore and signs and symbols.
[00:12:36]  But it goes much more than just these were some spooky occult guys.
[00:12:41]  They understood that there was a tradition building to this moment of America that went all the way back to.
[00:12:46]  Ancient Egypt and the incredible schools that had kept this information over thousands of years.
[00:12:54]  I think one of the things that we need to figure out immediately is how can we get this idea of Rosicrucians into the mix?
[00:13:05]  Rosicrucians are very important because they inform the mystery school tradition publicly.
[00:13:11]  And the Rosicrucians, meaning literally the fraternity or the order of the Rosicross, They are an esoteric Christian branch of the mystery schools.
[00:13:21]  They are the Western mystery tradition.
[00:13:25]  When you study the mystery schools, you're set up between the Eastern mystery schools and the Western version.
[00:13:31]  The Eastern mystery schools have laid this out for us over decades with Buddhism and with the great knowledge and wisdom of Confucius and things like this.
[00:13:42]  But it is a foundational approach, the East.
[00:13:45]  It was meant to kind of set up everything that was going to happen in this particular period of time.
[00:13:51]  And so early on, there was a lot of back and forth in relation to this, in that there were Eastern initiators and Western initiators.
[00:14:01]  And oddly enough, although you might think of it as just one kind of galactic, worldwide federation leading humanity forward, there's a lot of disagreements in those higher circles in the mystery schools about how to help humanity and how to move this whole situation forward.
[00:14:20]  The fundamental idea behind the mystery schools is that there are groups, there are people.
[00:14:26]  Who have learned a great secret.
[00:14:28]  They've understood the nature of reality.
[00:14:30]  And through time and through working in communities and being connected to higher knowledge, they've kind of transcended the earth and they are trying to help move the culture in a positive, peaceful direction that's very productive for development, spiritually and emotionally, psychologically.
[00:14:56]  The development of an ideal society, and they've been working on this project since Egyptian times and previous to that.
[00:15:05]  America was definitely the shot, the attempt by the mystery schools to bring forward this ideal society.
[00:15:13]  This was the shining city on the hill.
[00:15:15]  This was the ideal that they could.
[00:15:17]  This could be the New Atlantis, and that's where we get Francis Bacon and New Atlantis, and that's where we get the odd overtones around this period.
[00:15:25]  Shakespeare and The Tempest are going to play into this quite a bit.
[00:15:30]  The Rosicrucians themselves having this incredible explosion there in that period of time, 15th century, they would come back in the 19th century to really help push out theosophy, to really help with anthroposophy and bring us right up to date into this period that we're in.

=== Bacon's New Atlantis Vision (06:53) ===

[00:15:50]  So the Rosicrucians being a central core of these great white brotherhoods.
[00:15:55]  Now, when we study these levels of brotherhoods, when you think about theosophy, they have the ascended masters, and you know, they They name the ascended masters, Kutumi, Saint Germain.
[00:16:06]  And Saint Germain plays into this quite a bit.
[00:16:08]  He's going to come up quite a few times in this.
[00:16:11]  And you might say, Saint Germain in America, how does that work?
[00:16:13]  Well, we're going to show you.
[00:16:16]  But I want to start off with a few quotes in relation to this so we understand kind of the weight of the people that we're talking about.
[00:16:24]  First of all, I always say start the show off with a TKO, right?
[00:16:29]  All right.
[00:16:30]  The book, New Atlantis, which was written by Francis Bacon, this is a great picture of Francis Bacon.
[00:16:36]  Look at this.
[00:16:37]  That's incredible, quite remarkable.
[00:16:40]  And this is a fact.
[00:16:40]  It looks like he's wearing leather.
[00:16:43]  It says with the shrine.
[00:16:45]  He's an incredible figure, a very learned man of his period.
[00:16:50]  He was in Queen Elizabeth's court, and his family was, you know, kind of very well to do and very well connected, which is why by the time he's 22, he's actually in Parliament.
[00:17:03]  But he goes through some personal challenges, which are quite remarkable.
[00:17:07]  His father dies when he's young, and he's left without.
[00:17:10]  That inheritance because he's the second son of a second marriage.
[00:17:14]  And so there's a number of challenges.
[00:17:17]  He's not someone who you could say was just like a rich kid, but certainly he grew up in this environment.
[00:17:22]  There were so many rumors around him from the start that he was Queen Elizabeth's child because she doted on him so much and wanted him to do so well and appointed him to all these incredible positions.
[00:17:33]  And in fact, he did grow up in the court, so she kind of adopted him that way, though we don't have any evidence that he was actually her child.
[00:17:41]  I will say, in relation to Bacon, there's a depth of esoteric knowledge, and the Rosicrucians themselves acknowledge him as one of their leading figures.
[00:17:54]  But it's very interesting when you get into it because he's also known as the father of scientific discovery.
[00:18:01]  And so he's given us kind of a dual legacy in a way because part of that scientific discovery led to the scientific materialism, which by the time we got to the 19th century almost overwhelmed.
[00:18:13]  Humanity completely, and we can see it's very much in our face right now with all the transhumanism that's going on.
[00:18:21]  So, let's start off with the connections between Bacon and the American Revolution that have to be understood in order for us to get a real snapshot of how the Rosicrucians are involved with America.
[00:18:32]  And they are.
[00:18:34]  There's no America without the Rosicrucians, in my opinion.
[00:18:39]  So, here's something here's the TKO to start off with.
[00:18:43]  Stationer's Register.
[00:18:45]  This is something that, you know, whenever a new book came out or a new product or service, it had to be registered there and be available through the Stationer's Register in London.
[00:18:57]  Bacon's New Atlantis was added to it on, are you ready?
[00:19:03]  July 4th.
[00:19:06]  Now, this is very interesting because Thomas Jefferson, who we're going to quote a little bit later, he will say in that quote that.
[00:19:15]  Bacon is basically the greatest, one of the greatest people who ever lived.
[00:19:22]  And his admiration for him is over the top.
[00:19:24]  And what's interesting is Thomas Jefferson drags his heels in getting the Declaration of Independence signed because it's all set to go on July 2nd, but there's some heel dragging and there's some delays to get it up to this point of July 4th.
[00:19:40]  Bacon's New Atlantis being actually released on July 4th, coinciding with this date.
[00:19:46]  When you're dealing with esoteric outlay schedules and looking at the kind of timelines they put together, there is always a magic around certain dates, times, numbers.
[00:19:58]  And July 4th, we'll find up over and over again, is going to be a date that is highlighted and spotlighted, which really is some kind of a doorway, is some kind of a portal to something else.
[00:20:12]  And so, this date that we're on, July 4th, here, sitting here, we're right in the middle of it, celebrating it, trying to figure out beyond just the celebration of America, what it all means.
[00:20:22]  And certainly, there are some good things to celebrate.
[00:20:25]  Now, Jefferson's quote on Bacon, I'm going to give it to you in full.
[00:20:30]  And this remembers the third president of the United States and only one of two presidents who signed the Declaration of Independence.
[00:20:41]  Bacon, Locke, and Newton, I consider them as the three greatest men that have ever lived, without any exception, as having laid the foundation of those superstructures which have been raised in the physical and moral sciences.
[00:21:03]  So, Locke, of course, being the famous philosopher who brought so many of these ideas together that gave them a century before the foundation that they would use for the American Revolution, and Isaac Newton, who connected so many different ideas about the natural world.
[00:21:23]  But Bacon is the one he mentions first.
[00:21:25]  Now, why did Thomas Jefferson think Bacon was the greatest?
[00:21:29]  Let's think about that.
[00:21:32]  And he says, without any exception.
[00:21:34]  Now, New Atlantis, the book is very interesting.
[00:21:39]  This is something that Bacon wrote.
[00:21:42]  I'm going to jump ahead in the timeline a little bit.
[00:21:45]  He wrote it in the 1620s, just before he died, and it was actually released after he died, three months later.
[00:21:54]  Interestingly enough, almost as if it was vouchsafed and something that he needed to keep until he did pass.
[00:22:03]  And oddly enough, there's a lot of rancor and Confusion in history about whether he actually died when they said he died because he seems to appear in other places later.
[00:22:15]  So he's one of these figures that is going to, like a lot of mystery school people, assume different identities at different times.
[00:22:23]  Just check out C.G. Harrison, for example, for an example of that.
[00:22:28]  So when we're getting into this with Bacon, it seems to me that with New Atlantis, he's leaving us major clues.
[00:22:38]  With the development of this utopian ideal society that he brings forward.

=== Early DNA Work Clues (06:03) ===

[00:22:44]  And it is quite remarkable to go into it.
[00:22:47]  I'm going to just get the cover here, real quick.
[00:22:52]  There's a lot of really fascinating things in relation to Bacon and the New Atlantis.
[00:23:00]  Now, if you're familiar, of course, with the episodes we've done on Atlantis, Atlantis being this incredible society that was very advanced and, of course, comes up so often in the work of Plato.
[00:23:12]  And really, the general description of this very advanced society that gets to this point where it kind of angers the gods and then it becomes corrupt and then the gods take it out, essentially.
[00:23:25]  But what happens is that in the esoteric literature of Edgar Cayce, Rudolf Steiner, Helena Blavatsky, we are seeing threads, streams of ideas that Atlantis had the kind of technology that we have.
[00:23:43]  But more developed, more advanced.
[00:23:45]  And that what took place is that they actually used this technology for dual purposes spiritual purposes, on one hand, to communicate with spiritual beings, and on the other hand, this completely different purpose, something that was completely physical and they could dominate other groups with.
[00:24:05]  Now, by the end of it, it looks like there was a major split between two groups.
[00:24:11]  And Steiner calls the one group.
[00:24:14]  Aramon, and Casey calls it Belial, but they are twain.
[00:24:18]  Those are the same groups.
[00:24:20]  And it's a kind of a lower astral force which comes in, and these groups dominate using something called the Two Eye Stone, which was the power station in that period.
[00:24:33]  The Two Eye Stone is interesting because in the Casey readings on Atlantis, he describes it extensively, saying that they had developed entire groups to be purified and interact with the Two Eye Stone in order to.
[00:24:48]  Interact with these spiritual figures in the outer spheres.
[00:24:53]  So, getting to a level of spiritual communication that isn't possible just in a regular physical existence.
[00:25:00]  So, it's a very heavy thing to think about what the Two Eye Stone is.
[00:25:03]  But the entire lore of Atlantis comes back as something that was incredible, ideal, realized when men were as gods and humanity had these amazing powers that were psychic and they could do manifestation and they had incredible technology.
[00:25:22]  Now, by the time Bacon writes the New Atlantis, they have started now to let out things to the regular kind of run of people, like Plato's Timaeus.
[00:25:38]  And people are starting to hear these things about Atlantis, and he is infusing this Atlantis idea because he comes out of those mystery schools.
[00:25:48]  So when they put this out, it's actually inside of another book.
[00:25:54]  And this is going to be interesting too because there's a huge X steganography connection to this other book.
[00:26:00]  And we're going to get into that.
[00:26:02]  That book is called Silva Silvarn.
[00:26:05]  And it's basically a natural history of 10 centuries.
[00:26:10]  But when they refer to the book, it's always called Silva X.
[00:26:15]  And there are many volumes of this book where you can find it called Silva X.
[00:26:19]  This book is quite remarkable because inside of it, as he's going through these different centuries and these different chapters about it, Right in the middle of it is the strange, unfinished novel, The New Atlantis.
[00:26:34]  So, someone thinks that they're reading this little scientific treatise of the period, and then, boom, right in the middle of it, we have a very unusual New Atlantis book.
[00:26:43]  So, Bacon here is putting something in.
[00:26:48]  He's getting something in so that it's undeniable that those who are following him are going to get it.
[00:26:56]  So, it's coming in a natural history book, so it's not going to be thrown out as a heretic book.
[00:27:01]  You have to remember that the Inquisition was still happening in these periods.
[00:27:05]  So there's a lot of fear.
[00:27:07]  And actually, on a couple of different occasions, he was sort of excruciated as a heretic.
[00:27:14]  And he was held for bribery and things, for taking presents as a member of parliament.
[00:27:20]  And he actually spent a little time in the London Tower up there.
[00:27:23]  That couldn't have been fun.
[00:27:26]  Now, there's a lot of things about New Atlantis I want to mention.
[00:27:30]  But what I want to do is go to the thrust of the book at the end, which tells us what it is that we can anticipate.
[00:27:40]  Based on this New Atlantis.
[00:27:42]  And basically, the story is that you have these sailors who are trying to find their way and they take a wrong turn somewhere near Peru and they find this island that no one knows about.
[00:27:53]  And the islanders tell them, well, we've kept this a secret for all this time, but we're actually this very advanced society.
[00:27:58]  It turns out the reference is to America here.
[00:28:02]  And this is something that may have occurred a long time before Columbus came to America because we have all of these stories about the Templars being here in America.
[00:28:13]  And setting up this kind of mystery school fortress here long, long before Columbus gets here.
[00:28:20]  So, this list that Bacon has at the end of the New Atlantis is quite remarkable.
[00:28:29]  So, let's see what this list says, and you're going to, I think, find it like I do very 21st century.
[00:28:35]  Let's see.
[00:28:37]  Now, this page 30 actually of New Atlantis.

=== Life Extension Goals (05:22) ===

[00:28:47]  The prolongation of life, extending lives, life extension.
[00:28:55]  The refining of youth in some degree.
[00:28:58]  The retardation of age, slowing down the aging process.
[00:29:03]  Mitigation of pain, taking away that pain.
[00:29:06]  This is the kind of utopian ideal that New Atlantis is bringing forward for our future.
[00:29:13]  Increasing strength and ability.
[00:29:17]  Increasing ability to suffer torture or pain, mind over matter, altering complexion, shearing of stature, altering of features.
[00:29:31]  I'm sorry, altering of stature.
[00:29:34]  I guess this is almost like early DNA work.
[00:29:38]  Increasing and exalting of the intellectual parts, making of new species.
[00:29:50]  Very unusual.
[00:29:52]  What kind of new species are you talking about?
[00:29:54]  Transplanting of one species into another.
[00:29:57]  This is a scientist at heart.
[00:30:03]  So the destruction, instruments of destruction of war being put away, exhilaration of the spirits and putting them in good disposition, force of the imagination, either upon the body or inside the body itself.
[00:30:25]  Force of the imagination, quite remarkable.
[00:30:31]  Acceleration of time in maturation, time in clarification, time of putrefaction.
[00:30:41]  This is somebody who's looking at all the processes of life for humanity, making rich comforts for the earth, impressions of the air.
[00:30:56]  And raising of temples, great alteration, turning crude and wary substances into glorious substances, drawing on new foods out of substances now not safe.
[00:31:18]  So he's talking about feeding the world, very unusual.
[00:31:22]  Natural divination, interaction with spirits, being natural instead of some unusual occult practice.
[00:31:30]  Greater pleasures of the senses, artificial minerals and cements.
[00:31:40]  And again, there's this piece, it actually ends on artificial minerals and cements, which I find quite unusual.
[00:31:47]  But there's, if I can sum this up, basically what he's bringing forward is versions of improving humanity, making humanity spiritually worthy, making humanity the greatest that it can be.
[00:32:01]  Giving it the opportunity to develop intellectually, spiritually, physically, improving it.
[00:32:08]  And then making it a better vessel for holding these high spiritual energies.
[00:32:14]  This is the goal of New Atlantis.
[00:32:16]  The tale in there about these sailors coming upon this magic island and these advanced brotherhoods giving them all this information is quite remarkable.
[00:32:26]  But I think the thrust of the book is in that list I just read you.
[00:32:31]  And of course, going through them one at a time, we can bring them out more.
[00:32:35]  Yes.
[00:32:35]  Does reincarnation come up in this all?
[00:32:37]  I'm just curious.
[00:32:38]  Well, you know, it's interesting because reincarnation becomes what Steiner says is the Rosicrucian stream into the 19th century.
[00:32:48]  But reincarnation is not mentioned back here because, again, you're dealing with the Inquisition already.
[00:32:53]  You throw that into the mix and, you know, you're just asked, you know.
[00:32:57]  I mean, obviously, underground, they would have believed in it.
[00:33:01]  Oh, they certainly knew.
[00:33:02]  Yes, absolutely.
[00:33:03]  Great point.
[00:33:03]  The, the, um, The mystery schools held it as a tenet.
[00:33:07]  They understood it just like the Essenes understood it all the way back to Christ's time.
[00:33:11]  So, I'm going to just jump ahead.
[00:33:13]  So, what's the point of creating utopia so that you could have eventually, if you can perfect man to hold the highest vibrate, to hold our higher selves in physical bodies, would it eventually be to ascend off of the planet?
[00:33:34]  Because you know, so what you create a fantastic society, everybody's creative.
[00:33:39]  No, I think it's all integrated.
[00:33:41]  I think so, but eventually, would that be the goal of creating a current society?
[00:33:46]  I think the idea would be not to be bound by the earth.
[00:33:52]  Um, I don't know if it means getting off the earth, okay, yeah.
[00:33:56]  Um, so the idea is it's like in the Bible, it says, um, subdue the earth.
[00:34:04]  Now, that doesn't mean chop down the rainforest, it means to subdue the inclinations.

=== Not Bound By Earth (04:05) ===

[00:34:10]  So, don't be, you know, this is the thing.
[00:34:12]  Don't be a slave to your own emotions.
[00:34:14]  Don't be a slave to just lower chakra battles, you know, fight or flight, that kind of thing.
[00:34:23]  So, I think we do have some interesting things that the brotherhoods are looking at here.
[00:34:30]  The mystery schools look out and they say, how do we get this to this wider audience?
[00:34:33]  Especially when we're in the 1500s and we're looking around, things have just, I mean, we still have the Inquisition.
[00:34:39]  It's still a dark period of time.
[00:34:41]  And here they're starting.
[00:34:43]  Out with the Enlightenment.
[00:34:44]  They're starting to get into this.
[00:34:46]  And there's no doubt that Bacon is bringing everything up to a higher level.
[00:34:50]  But he, you know, Steiner will point this out.
[00:34:53]  They will use a lot of Bacon's discoveries to bring in that scientific materialism.
[00:34:58]  So, so much of what he's doing is almost like considered a mixed bag on the mystery school level.
[00:35:06]  Just to remind everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[00:35:09]  It's fantastic to have everyone here for this July 4th, very special show that we're doing tonight, episode 58 on a topic that I have to say I think is.
[00:35:20]  Absolutely fascinating, which is Secret Rosicrucian America.
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[00:36:15]  And it really is a shambles out there with them throwing people off of social media.
[00:36:20]  These companies know no shame, and they are definitely going to reap the whirlwinds.
[00:36:26]  At some point.
[00:36:27]  But I do find that the crackdown is particularly obvious and in your face.
[00:36:32]  So that's something the censorship is just beyond belief.
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[00:37:04]  All the X series episodes are going to be off the charts.
[00:37:07]  Of course, we just had the interview with Secretary Fitz and Catherine did an incredible three hour interview for us here on the 23rd, I guess, or the 21st.
[00:37:19]  And just incredible, totally off the charts.
[00:37:22]  Yeah, everybody says it was the greatest Fitz episode ever.
[00:37:25]  That is no question.
[00:37:26]  Possibly our greatest episode ever.
[00:37:28]  So it was an incredible honor to hear about that.
[00:37:30]  It was just great to have her here.
[00:37:33]  You know, we realized when it was over that that was the 20th show that she's done with us here on the show.
[00:37:38]  So amazing.
[00:37:41]  And that she was the guest for the very first Dark Journalist show.
[00:37:44]  Okay.
[00:37:45]  Can't get better than that.
[00:37:46]  I mean, I knew Catherine before that anyway.
[00:37:48]  But it is interesting too, I would say, because, you know, the information was so vital and so timely.
[00:37:55]  And it related, on one hand, to the missing money part.
[00:37:59]  And everyone was very fascinated by that.
[00:38:01]  However, the spiritual warfare aspects, those questions that came in, and you were very curious about this.
[00:38:06]  I wrote 20 questions, I think.
[00:38:08]  That I wanted the answer.
[00:38:09]  We didn't get to cover all of them, but I had been desperate to ask her for years, so I'm thrilled that I was able to answer.

=== Torsion Physics Aspects (09:35) ===

[00:38:15]  Well, it's great.
[00:38:16]  That's your first time that you were ever able to talk to her, too.
[00:38:18]  How fascinating.
[00:38:20]  And there's no question about it.
[00:38:23]  Catherine's work is some of the greatest stuff I think that's available right now.
[00:38:27]  She's going to be coming back on the show this summer.
[00:38:30]  Now, a couple of interesting things in relation to New Atlantis before we let that go and move into the Rosicrucians.
[00:38:38]  Okay, I know you're not going to.
[00:38:42]  You're down with a two-eye stone, right?
[00:38:44]  Well, no, go ahead.
[00:38:45]  Okay, so I have a couple questions.
[00:38:47]  It's all related.
[00:38:47]  Go for it.
[00:38:48]  So, a cult fan wanted to know is the Two Eye Stone entirely physical or was it in both realms very directly?
[00:38:57]  Oh, well, it's very interesting.
[00:39:01]  Happy July 4th, a cult fan, by the way.
[00:39:03]  I know you know a lot about Rosicrucians and so on.
[00:39:08]  I will say this in relation to the Two Eye Stone.
[00:39:11]  Whenever it's spoken about, Casey really gives us the impression that they were.
[00:39:19]  They had the use of a spiritual etheric ability for physical purposes.
[00:39:24]  So it resides, its very presence there can be seen in the material realm and in a kind of etheric realm.
[00:39:32]  So it exists simultaneously.
[00:39:35]  And what's very interesting in relation to the Casey readings is they talk about the etheric realm having matter, etheric matter, a different kind of matter.
[00:39:46]  I'm thinking a higher vibration matter.
[00:39:50]  So, certainly it exists simultaneously in both.
[00:39:55]  I think part of the problem and part of what we call on this program, Apotheum, which was this event and this kind of memory that the mystery schools brought through, which had to do with upsetting physics and creating reality distortion fields, comes from the misuse of the two eyed stone in Atlantean times, which is why that whole process seems to be continually reawakened when we get around the UFO file.
[00:40:23]  Because the UFOs, when they're sighted, tend to cause the very same type of reaction.
[00:40:30]  So, really, in an interesting situation when we get into Apotheum, because it seems like the secrecy that's been built in the 21st century around the UFO file is largely based on Apotheum.
[00:40:43]  And Apotheum is something that the mystery schools tried to keep secret using extegenography.
[00:40:51]  So, it's a memory of using an ability of physics that literally.
[00:40:56]  Throws the idea of physical evolution out the window because it disrupts and creates a kind of a runaway physics situation.
[00:41:04]  So we have to understand that the groups, some of the secret societies in mystery schools, and at times they get a bad rap because of the nature of secrecy and hiding things.
[00:41:15]  And there are certainly different types of schools from, you know, the left hand schools have this ability to use this kind of these techniques for very base purposes.
[00:41:29]  But when you get right down to it, What we're talking about is this kind of fear element that takes over in these groups that create these walls of secrecy on the government side in relation to the X technology, because somehow that's associated, that's why it's in the UFO file.
[00:41:49]  Those things are associated with the Sapothium effect, which they don't know how to control.
[00:41:53]  And they don't have the kind of consciousness, let's say, ability to grasp how to contain and maintain that.
[00:42:02]  But we'd have to imagine it.
[00:42:05]  It's something that Professor Farrell talks about, or Dr. Farrell talks about in relation to.
[00:42:12]  That's a good title for him.
[00:42:14]  You always do that.
[00:42:16]  I know.
[00:42:18]  I think that what he talks about is how that particular type of physics makes the atomic bomb look like a firecracker.
[00:42:28]  And we have to think about that, the torsion physics aspect.
[00:42:31]  And I think that when people have talked about torsion physics, they're getting into that apothegm.
[00:42:36]  But we can understand it because the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Chaldeans, they had knowledge about it.
[00:42:42]  They kept the knowledge about it.
[00:42:45]  And it's quite fascinating as we go back to Bacon and Shakespeare and the Rosicrucians.
[00:42:52]  It's quite fascinating because when you get into this period, it's like there's a reassembly that's taking place.
[00:42:57]  It's like the Templars had part of it, the Hermeticists had part of it, the Alchemists had part of it.
[00:43:02]  They realized, oh, we all used to have this stuff.
[00:43:06]  It used to be part of the thing, you know, the Library of Alexandria.
[00:43:09]  And somehow it all got split off because the mystery schools had been persecuted and it all went underground and they split it.
[00:43:16]  And Gurdjieff describes this a lot in Search of the Miraculous, actually.
[00:43:20]  And I've always found it fascinating because he said that theory was moved to one place, practice was moved to another, and philosophy was moved to another.
[00:43:31]  So we have like Egypt, Persia, India, these places where the mystery schools split up their knowledge base.
[00:43:38]  But by the time you get into the 15th or 16th century, these groups are starting to see this kind of unified picture again.
[00:43:44]  And I think this is quite important in relation to that.
[00:43:48]  So I do also feel that maybe when we're talking about the Rosicrucians, we're talking about a group that simultaneously existed as a very powerful group around the time of Pythagoras and was an echo of the deep mystery school tradition.
[00:44:04]  The later version, the American version of Rosicrucians, would go back and harken back to Akhenaten, etc.
[00:44:12]  But I think that what's happened is that there was a major explosion of this information that came from Christian Rosencruz in the 15th.
[00:44:23]  And in the 16th century.
[00:44:24]  That's what they brought through.
[00:44:26]  And they worked with it.
[00:44:27]  And again, they worked with it in a 100 year period, which seems to be this kind of cycle thing that the mystery schools do.
[00:44:34]  Here's 100 years of it, then we're going to back off.
[00:44:39]  But it's funny because if you look at Steiner's work later, he says that the mystery schools worked, the Rosicrucians worked directly with Blavatsky.
[00:44:47]  So you think about that.
[00:44:48]  They're a Western school tradition.
[00:44:50]  Blavatsky winds up being an Eastern tradition through theosophy, but she starts with Isis unveiled.
[00:44:56]  According to Steiner, with a very Western version.
[00:45:01]  So, this is all very interesting, and it's funny, I saw somebody ask a question about a time capsule, and we're going to get to a very interesting point about the Rosicrucian's time capsule.
[00:45:10]  Don't let me forget.
[00:45:13]  I want to point out something quick in New Atlantis, real quickly.
[00:45:16]  Yes, what do you got?
[00:45:18]  I know this will come up later.
[00:45:19]  John Lodgery wanted to ask Is Francis Bacon clairvoyant?
[00:45:24]  And Nicholas Carupas wanted to know Did Francis Bacon ever encounter Apotheum?
[00:45:31]  Well, now here's the thing.
[00:45:33]  If you look at stories about Bacon, there's no question that he has extrasensory abilities.
[00:45:37]  I think that his ability to create this whole idea about science and to create the whole, you know, penetrating into higher light and things like that shows that he's a very deep curiosity on the esoteric side.
[00:45:53]  I would say that if, in terms of Apotheum, this is a guy who experimented a lot and worked with the mystery schools.
[00:45:59]  He's familiar with the concept, he understands what to stay away from.
[00:46:03]  But he's also a public figure, member of parliament.
[00:46:07]  He's somebody who's in the Queen's Court.
[00:46:09]  I mean, he's a remarkable figure that he has to have kind of a double life.
[00:46:14]  And I will say this that at the end of his life, we'll get to some interesting quotes from him because basically what he says is, you know, I spent the latter part of my life really working on philosophy and esoteric science, et cetera.
[00:46:30]  And he said earlier on, I had this kind of almost like flashy, Political lifestyle.
[00:46:36]  And I wish that I could basically just get rid of that, blot that out, and have the whole thing have been working around this philosophy.
[00:46:43]  So, it's a very interesting double life in two worlds that he had to exist in.
[00:46:47]  But his incredible knowledge of language, his grasp of Latin, French, his incredible knowledge of culture through these different travels may very well have been the source that we get the incredible Shakespeare plays from because we know there's been such a connection with Bacon and Shakespeare.
[00:47:07]  And there's been so many things that don't add up about Shakespeare having all of this knowledge.
[00:47:11]  And it seems like the Shakespeare work is something that the mystery schools wanted to let out directly, whether it was Shakespeare or Bacon.
[00:47:19]  No, but that's a really good question, actually.
[00:47:21]  And we're going to be wild with the format tonight, but do ask the questions in caps.
[00:47:26]  It'll be easier for Olivia.
[00:47:27]  Ordinarily.
[00:47:28]  Yeah, I'm the only mod tonight.
[00:47:30]  All by my lonesome.
[00:47:32]  Hey, listen, you can handle it.
[00:47:34]  I've seen you handle it before.
[00:47:35]  I can do it.
[00:47:37]  There's no doubt about it.
[00:47:39]  So we're looking at a situation where if you get into this period of looking at Bacon's final work, The New Atlantis, we are.

=== Rosicrucian Imagery Codes (07:38) ===

[00:47:50]  We see very unusual references to Atlantis itself in here.
[00:47:54]  And one of them I wanted to point out is when he's talking with one of these elders in something called Solomon's House.
[00:48:04]  And this is like the major kind of university where they teach everyone these mystery traditions.
[00:48:10]  And it seems to be even something that overrides the government.
[00:48:15]  They're in total control, they're kind of the wise men.
[00:48:19]  And they're giving him kind of a backdrop on.
[00:48:23]  What has gone on?
[00:48:24]  They say to him, towards the east, the shipping of Egypt was likewise great, China also, and the great Atlantis, and then in parentheses, that you call America.
[00:48:37]  Now, this is interesting.
[00:48:37]  They had just discovered America in 1492.
[00:48:41]  This book is 1626.
[00:48:46]  So we've got the idea, and he's saying, in here, the great Atlantis that you call America.
[00:48:53]  So they're suggesting in the new Atlantis, That the great Atlantis is America, and that this whole story, this whole idea about Atlantis is America.
[00:49:03]  So he's tying in again this idea so that we can get back to this magic land, this new Atlantis.
[00:49:09]  Great Atlantis is America.
[00:49:11]  Very important to keep in mind.
[00:49:14]  Okay, so we're going to move on now and just cover a couple of quick things about New Atlantis.
[00:49:21]  To just call it a utopian novel, I think is quite ridiculous.
[00:49:24]  It's layered and it is rich with esoteric symbolism and esoteric ideas.
[00:49:30]  And we're going to see that those ideas came through this Rosicrucian stream.
[00:49:35]  Let's talk about the Rosicrucians real quick.
[00:49:40]  This symbol, this is the kind of modern symbol that they use of the Rosy Cross.
[00:49:47]  And what we find is that throughout history, there is this level of imagery incorporating the X steganography and these roses.
[00:49:59]  And then the cross part seems to be interesting.
[00:50:02]  Like the Cairo, it Brings out a mix of the X and these other symbols around it.
[00:50:09]  Let's take a look at a few of these.
[00:50:14]  So, in the early 1600s, so we're getting into the 17th century, they start to release works by Christian Rosenkreutz, who is ostensibly the founder of the Rosicrucian Society fraternity.
[00:50:32]  Now, the Rosicrucians put out these books and they put out these kind of pamphlets and things telling everyone what they're doing.
[00:50:41]  They're saying, you know, we're coming out, we are this mystery school, we've kept this knowledge, really being very bold about it.
[00:50:47]  And this happens in Germany.
[00:50:49]  But it takes about 100 years for the books that they write to actually penetrate to that larger mass, almost as if the inside groups needed to work on them over time.
[00:50:58]  And what we get as kind of the height of this is something called the chemical romance.
[00:51:04]  Um, now this is very interesting because, um, the steganography that's incorporated into the cover is quite remarkable.
[00:51:15]  Uh, and get just a quick idea here this is very Rosicrucian imagery, um, incorporating these symbols, which is the sun here, and we have that's she's standing on the moon on the feminine aspect.
[00:51:30]  We have this ex steganography, uh, here incorporated into the star and into the cross directly.
[00:51:38]  They are standard bearers of the ex steganography when they're introducing this chemical romance idea.
[00:51:47]  And it is definitely, it's looking like the ex steganography is incorporated directly into the Rosicrucian imagery.
[00:52:00]  Here, if we look at Johannes Valentine's crest, this is quite fascinating.
[00:52:08]  Let's take a close look at this.
[00:52:10]  Here is the X incorporated with, and these are four roses, by the way.
[00:52:15]  That is a black and white shot, so it's not so easy to see, but I think you get the idea.
[00:52:20]  This crest, which we're looking at in this period with Valentine, actually shows up a couple hundred years earlier if we're looking at this.
[00:52:29]  Let's look at this crest.
[00:52:33]  This is again the X with the four roses.
[00:52:37]  And this almost looking like a separated heart with, again, the X with the four roses.
[00:52:41]  And these roses, again, the Rosy Cross is a central portion, a central image for the Rosicrucians, being that they are bringing forward the esoteric version of Christianity.
[00:52:54]  This is the very deep mystery tradition.
[00:52:58]  So, what happens is it's discovered that this look, this entire crest, goes back even earlier, and it goes back to Gothenburg, Luxembourg.
[00:53:13]  And it's fascinating because when we're looking at this period, this is more in the 14th century and it has to do with the king of Germany at the time.
[00:53:27]  So we're seeing that this is spread out far before the Rosicrucian materials reached the public.
[00:53:33]  Yes, Miss Olivia?
[00:53:33]  No, I'm fine.
[00:53:34]  Okay, good.
[00:53:36]  But I do feel.
[00:53:37]  So does the rose represent the soul the way the lotus represents the soul?
[00:53:41]  Well, it's interesting because in Egyptian, they incorporated.
[00:53:45]  In the lotus into Egyptian imagery this way.
[00:53:48]  And what it represents is a good question.
[00:53:51]  There's a number of different inferences we can take from it.
[00:53:54]  But I think the color may also be important because we also have this red cross idea and we also have this idea of red as the blood of Christ and all the rest of it.
[00:54:08]  Well, on the esoteric side, the red rose is quite interesting because it's a different variation on the idea.
[00:54:14]  This is what has happened.
[00:54:15]  All these roses have grown as a result of this action of sacrifice.
[00:54:20]  So it gets certainly deep as we go in deeper, but we can take a look at these different crests and see that it's St. Andrew's Cross again.
[00:54:32]  And again, this is the post Christian tying in of that steganography of the cross and the Cairo.
[00:54:40]  So you've got the X and the cross mixed there.
[00:54:43]  So the Rosicrucians are just like the Christian tradition.
[00:54:49]  The Christian tradition, if you go by the esoteric lore, Goes back all the way to Egypt and it goes back to 10,000 BC, pre Sans Egypt.
[00:54:59]  So they had developed this whole idea.
[00:55:01]  It was a program to get to that point where they could have this incredible spiritual resurgence through Christ.
[00:55:08]  But this also happens with the Rosicrucians, who are a mystery school in Egyptian times and then later become this incredible force in the 16th and 17th century, leading up into our time.
[00:55:24]  Groups like Anthroposophy and Theosophy, and their incredible kind of influence on those groups.

=== Steiner And Tradition Roots (02:39) ===

[00:55:28]  Yes.
[00:55:29]  Big Papa Pump wants to know Did Steiner get the Roses and Cross exercise from the Rosicrucians?
[00:55:35]  Well, there's a lot of different stories about people who were initiated into the Rosicrucian orders, and when they come out to be initiated, it's Steiner who comes out decked out as a Rosicrucian to initiate them.
[00:55:46]  So he was deep, deep, deep in those brotherhoods and couldn't speak so much about them.
[00:55:52]  I would definitely say, I think a lot of what Steiner came forward with.
[00:55:57]  Came from the Rosicrucian tradition.
[00:55:59]  Now, in America, there's something called Amoric, and we're going to go through that actually.
[00:56:05]  They have a list of people who were a part of the Rosicrucian society.
[00:56:10]  No, no, I want you to read it.
[00:56:10]  You want me to read it?
[00:56:11]  Well, pick out a couple of interesting people.
[00:56:12]  Okay, well, no, this is a good list.
[00:56:14]  George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Benjamin Franklin, Leonardo da Vinci, Isaac Newton, Francis Bacon, Giordano Bruno, Rene Descartes, Napoleon Bonaparte, Rudolf Steiner, Annie Besant, Manly P. Hall, Walt Disney.
[00:56:28]  And Gene Roddenberry.
[00:56:29]  Now, definitely, Walt Disney is a part of A Mark, which is the American version of the Rosicrucian Society, which was founded in 1915.
[00:56:38]  So, this comes way after the original wave.
[00:56:41]  So, they're two different things, but it's a modern group picking up on what these people did before.
[00:56:46]  But they have all these incredible people associated with it.
[00:56:49]  Are you going to mention Obama?
[00:56:51]  Yeah, yeah, that's also important.
[00:56:54]  Well, Obama writes them a letter on their anniversary, but we're jumping ahead in the story.
[00:57:00]  And, you know, Gene Roddenberry was very deep giving us all the cultural depth of something like Star Trek.
[00:57:08]  And then when you think about Walt Disney, though, you think about all the diceier stories about Disney, this Disney star that just came forward talking about child abuse.
[00:57:15]  So, you know, it's very interesting how these groups can be manipulated, also.
[00:57:20]  But I just think it's interesting.
[00:57:21]  If you go down that list, it's an incredible list of celebrities.
[00:57:26]  But I'm going to jump back to the chemical romance of Christian Rosenkreutz because this book in particular.
[00:57:32]  Gives us the keys in which Rosencruz wrote to give us those keys to understand what the whole Rosencrucian movement was about.
[00:57:42]  And I'm going to read from that first page where he's in bed, basically, the hero of the story, and suddenly out of the blue, this angel, this incredibly beautiful angel, comes in and hands him a letter.
[00:57:55]  And it's actually an invitation to this wedding.
[00:57:58]  And I'm going to read this.
[00:58:01]  This is what came in.
[00:58:02]  This day, this day, this, this.
[00:58:06]  The royal wedding is.

=== The Chemical Wedding Invitation (15:26) ===

[00:58:08]  Art thou thereto by birth inclined and unto joy of God designed?
[00:58:14]  Then mayest thou to the mountain tend whereon three stately temples stand and there see all from end to end, keep watch and ward thyself regard.
[00:58:27]  Unless with diligence thou bathe, the wedding can't thee harmless save, deal damage.
[00:58:35]  Have that here, delays.
[00:58:38]  Let him beware, too light that weighs.
[00:58:43]  And then there's something very interesting, which is this Monus hieroglyph over here.
[00:58:53]  It's known as the Monus hieroglyphica.
[00:58:56]  I love how the text just disappears, but you can see that.
[00:58:59]  I got a bigger version of it.
[00:59:03]  Now, here's the first tie between John D. Francis Bacon and this Rosicrucian Christian Rosencruz movement.
[00:59:14]  This is John Dee's hieroglyph.
[00:59:16]  He's the one who brought it public.
[00:59:19]  And we've got the moon and we have the elements here.
[00:59:24]  We have the sun and then we have fire.
[00:59:29]  This is very interesting because now Rosencruz, who apparently is writing this 100 years before it comes out, he is using that imagery.
[00:59:39]  He's using that very same.
[00:59:41]  Glyph that John Dee is going to use 100 years later.
[00:59:47]  So now we're starting to see this tie over from who are the mystery schools that are informing John Dee.
[00:59:52]  I should mention John Dee.
[00:59:53]  We've done shows on him and we'll do more actually, but he's the Queen's Conjurer and he's this incredible kind of magician in Queen Elizabeth's court.
[01:00:04]  So, and he's known as 007, and there's so much lore around him, but he's a real person.
[01:00:11]  And he certainly utilized his psychic heightened abilities and scrying and things for interacting with the spirit world.
[01:00:20]  So he's quite remarkable a figure.
[01:00:22]  He presents this glyph.
[01:00:24]  And then when the book comes out for Christian Rosenkreuz, we find the glyph incorporated right into the story.
[01:00:32]  Quite interesting.
[01:00:34]  So now we're seeing connections directly between the Rosicrucian movement, because that's Christian Rosenkreuz writing the book, John Dee, and Now, Francis Bacon.
[01:00:45]  Then it comes into question well, both of them were in Queen Elizabeth's court.
[01:00:50]  Did they know each other?
[01:00:52]  It's very interesting.
[01:00:53]  Thank God that our friend, because a lot of people try to say it didn't happen, thank God that John Dee kept a diary because in his diary he lists that he has met Francis Bacon and that they went through their library together.
[01:01:08]  This is important because it's on the record and it's not something we have to guess about.
[01:01:14]  So now we have John Dee.
[01:01:15]  With Francis Bacon.
[01:01:17]  And we have Christian Rosenkreutz incorporating the Monas Hieroglyphica.
[01:01:24]  Now.
[01:01:25]  Can I insert something?
[01:01:26]  Yes.
[01:01:27]  We were talking about this earlier.
[01:01:28]  David Donaway just wanted to say that John Dee may have suggested to Queen Elizabeth to pursue corporate colonization of the world, the New World, before the papal backed Spain and Portugal took over the world.
[01:01:40]  Oh, no question about it.
[01:01:42]  They wanted, for this mystery school side, the John Dee side, they wanted it for Britain.
[01:01:48]  There's no question about it.
[01:01:49]  And they knew that Spain had an early claim because of Columbus.
[01:01:52]  But there are a lot of reasons why that's true also, because Spain had incredible influence from Arab experts, and they had a very deep mystery tradition from the Arabic side.
[01:02:08]  So there's a whole idea of the mystery schools there saying the Arabic side could only go to the height of the senses, and that these other mystery schools had the ability to go higher, and that that's what was necessary.
[01:02:22]  So it's very interesting.
[01:02:24]  And certainly, Spain was already very accomplished.
[01:02:27]  To just create Spain, too, it wouldn't have been so great.
[01:02:30]  But this idea, this striving for new Atlantis, is something that had come up all the way through, even with the Templars.
[01:02:36]  And, you know, there's this idea of creating this new land, this new Camelot.
[01:02:42]  And I think a lot about the Merlin, King Arthur imagery in relation to this.
[01:02:48]  But they found the new land, they had the new world to do it.
[01:02:51]  But yeah, that's a great point, actually.
[01:02:52]  I think it's important to consider how powerful Spain was at the time.
[01:02:57]  So, something happens to try to cut this off, which is these books have gotten out.
[01:03:02]  Everybody wants to know who the Rosicrucians are.
[01:03:05]  We are in the early 17th century.
[01:03:09]  And now, you know, Bacon is very late in his years.
[01:03:15]  He writes New Atlantis and then dies.
[01:03:17]  And we have this kind of scramble for people who are taking in this Rosicrucian information.
[01:03:22]  And a lot of them go to Germany and also they want to join the Rosicrucians, who they've heard so much about through these books.
[01:03:28]  And the books are just circulating anonymously.
[01:03:30]  So, no one's taking credit except for this Rosencruz who had died 100 years earlier.
[01:03:35]  So, we have a very strange situation.
[01:03:37]  Then it pops into the heads of these heads of state and governments that we can't let this go on.
[01:03:42]  Whatever it is, we've got to crack down on it.
[01:03:44]  So, now they're after these Rosencrucians.
[01:03:46]  It's a very strange situation.
[01:03:48]  In the middle of all this, we have the person who was using the unusual X with the roses, this Johannes Valentinus Andreas.
[01:04:01]  He's a very unusual figure.
[01:04:03]  He's a German theologian, and he claims, he comes out and he claims, I'm the author of the chemical romance of Christian Rosencruz.
[01:04:13]  And this is his way of undercutting it, saying that he just made it up as a novel, and what's the big deal?
[01:04:17]  Forget about these Rosencrucians.
[01:04:19]  So he's actually like a very early bobo, think about it.
[01:04:24]  Do you think he was put up to that by somebody?
[01:04:26]  I do, as I've studied his story.
[01:04:28]  Now, there's a couple of things that He claimed to be the author of the ancient text known as the Chemical Romance of Christian Rosencruz.
[01:04:37]  Now, it's interesting, too, because the Chemical Romance of Christian Rosencruz just has him assisting with a royal wedding.
[01:04:44]  It's not him who's getting married, but the title kind of intimates that.
[01:04:48]  This became one of the three founding works of Rosencruzianism.
[01:04:51]  Good point, which was both a legend and fashionable cultural phenomena across Europe in the period.
[01:05:01]  He was a prominent member of the Protestant utopian movement, which began in Germany.
[01:05:06]  This is something that was going on.
[01:05:08]  But what he tries to do here is say, oh, you know, basically, there are all these things going on about secret ancient wisdom, and I just wrote it as a lark, basically.
[01:05:22]  But oddly enough, he is, in any picture that you see of him, his crest has that X with the roses.
[01:05:27]  Very, very unusual.
[01:05:29]  But we know that that's borrowed from three centuries earlier.
[01:05:33]  Let's see if there's anything else.
[01:05:35]  Okay, so his role in the origin of the Rosicrucian legend is controversial.
[01:05:40]  In his autobiography, he claims that the chemical wedding of Christian Rosencruz was one of his works.
[01:05:48]  And he said in old age that he wrote this fake document in his youth.
[01:05:55]  In his later works, alchemy is treated as a subject of ridicule and placed with music, art, and theater and astrology in the category of less serious sciences.
[01:06:05]  Okay, that's nice.
[01:06:06]  Well, music and art is a less serious science for you.
[01:06:09]  He's a pious Orthodox Lutheran.
[01:06:12]  So the Lutherans and the churches generally need to smack down this Rosicrucian thing.
[01:06:18]  They elect this guy to come out and say, Look, I wrote this as a joke, no big deal.
[01:06:23]  But there's no proof that he wrote the chemical romance.
[01:06:26]  And in fact, in the mystery school traditions, everyone knows that Christian Rosencruz is a real figure.
[01:06:34]  But it's a very interesting, really disinformation plot to kind of knock the whole story out.
[01:06:39]  And they are using the ex steganography.
[01:06:40]  Well, who else uses the ex steganography in this period?
[01:06:44]  The Rosencruzians themselves, always putting the human being at the crossroads of that ex steganography.
[01:06:50]  Right in the middle of it.
[01:06:51]  That's a particularly beautiful image.
[01:06:53]  Yeah, that's a great one.
[01:06:54]  Unbelievable.
[01:06:55]  And there are so many, I mean, there are so many images that they use.
[01:07:00]  There are a number of books that incorporate the steganography in the period.
[01:07:05]  And actually, I want you to draw on this one for me because I know you have such a steady hand.
[01:07:11]  But I want to show this up because there's something that comes up here which links up D, John D, the Queen's Conjurer, with X steganography on this list.
[01:07:23]  And Here he is, in fact, creating for the person who came out, Trithemius, who came out with steganography in this period.
[01:07:35]  This is D making a chart for him.
[01:07:37]  So, again, we're getting that tie in.
[01:07:40]  This particular document is very interesting, too Comte de Gabalus, because we can see the X suggested there, and this is another early cipher in the same period related to all these individuals.
[01:07:56]  And what I'm going to have you do, Olivia, is just draw the X, fill in those lines for me, because it's going to come in handy later.
[01:08:03]  I need a pen.
[01:08:04]  Well, you can use this one.
[01:08:07]  Olivia is quite an excellent artist, by the way.
[01:08:11]  And if I did that, it would be all over the joint.
[01:08:13]  Well, this is pretty easy.
[01:08:14]  There you go.
[01:08:15]  Fantastic.
[01:08:17]  Okay.
[01:08:18]  So here's the X steganography for those who knew.
[01:08:23]  So they understand when they're looking at it ah, it's an X document.
[01:08:26]  Fabulous.
[01:08:27]  But if it was there sitting with a huge X, then everybody would have freaked out and said, What is that?
[01:08:33]  Let's get a few things in here about this chemical wedding of Christian Rosenkrutz.
[01:08:42]  I think I said chemical romance before.
[01:08:43]  That's actually the name of a band.
[01:08:45]  Yes.
[01:08:46]  He took chemical wedding.
[01:08:48]  It's not bad.
[01:08:48]  They're not bad.
[01:08:50]  In 1616, a third work appeared.
[01:08:53]  Now, this one is from the Rosicrucians, the history, mythology, and rituals of an esoteric order.
[01:08:58]  This is Christopher Mackintosh's book that he wrote and hung out there for 20 years and then he revised it.
[01:09:04]  But I'm still using that original book.
[01:09:06]  It's quite good.
[01:09:07]  In 1616, a third work appeared, the strangest of all.
[01:09:11]  It was published at Strasbourg in German under the title The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz.
[01:09:18]  In it, the narrator, supposedly Christian Rosenkreuz himself, describes his experiences as a guest, not the bridegroom, at the wedding of a king and queen who dwell in a wondrous castle.
[01:09:31]  The wedding develops into an extraordinary sequence of events in which the guests are subjected to tests of their worth and they are killed and brought to life again during an alchemical operation.
[01:09:44]  Occult imagery abounds.
[01:09:45]  There are portals guarded by lions.
[01:09:49]  Gigi Young would love that.
[01:09:51]  Magical fountains and ships corresponding to signs of the zodiac.
[01:09:55]  This is a very deep mystery school attempt to bring this out.
[01:10:01]  This luxuriant symbolism has lent itself to countless interpretations, but the connection between the chemical wedding and the other manifestos is not clear, nor are there precise motives of the creators producing it.
[01:10:14]  Although the chemical waiting was published anonymously, This other guy who we just were talking about, Valentine, comes out and says, I wrote it.
[01:10:24]  But this is very important because the symbolism of the wedding is also goes back to the esoteric Christianity because in the original Christian setup, Christ is the bridegroom and all of his followers, you know, that's who's going to marry.
[01:10:42]  So this is very interesting when we tie it in from that end of things, we get the esoteric Christianity wave.
[01:10:50]  And this very unusual chemical wedding.
[01:10:53]  Alchemical wedding, actually, but it's called the Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkruths, is about the seeker going on a journey to find the mystery wisdom and how it makes them into something else.
[01:11:05]  Like when you're single and then you get married, you're part of a couple.
[01:11:09]  It's a different entity.
[01:11:11]  When you are a seeker on the path of finding the mystery school knowledge, when you find it, suddenly you're a different entity.
[01:11:19]  You've joined with this information.
[01:11:21]  You're still yourself, but you've Something else has happened, taken place.
[01:11:25]  A transformation has taken place here.
[01:11:29]  Now, we're going to jump ahead a little bit here to Rudolf Steiner and the influence of Rosicrucianism creating anthroposophy and spiritual science.
[01:11:41]  I want to remind everyone you're watching the Dark Journalist program.
[01:11:45]  We're going deep here on the real secret Rosicrucian America and the influence that it had on the founding of America and the incredible idea of blossoming of spiritual independence.
[01:11:58]  And the ability to, you know, freedom of worship, freedom of religion, freedom of speech.
[01:12:04]  This is the core mystery school tenets bringing forward an entirely new Atlantis, as it were, or in this case, a new America.
[01:12:14]  So before I jump in there, Miss Olivia, how are you doing over there?
[01:12:16]  Would you like a question?
[01:12:18]  Sure.
[01:12:18]  Okay, Salim Salam wants to know Francis Bacon wrote the book New Atlantis.
[01:12:22]  Does it mean he knew about the old Atlantis?
[01:12:26]  Oh, he knew about the old Atlantis.
[01:12:28]  How did he know?
[01:12:30]  Well, he was one of the people who translated Plato's texts for Timaeus.
[01:12:37]  So that has the whole Atlantis story in it.
[01:12:39]  So he understood that aspect.
[01:12:41]  But his relationship with mystery knowledge, and if you study the mystery schools, it starts to become obvious who was in and who was out.
[01:12:52]  But the Rosicrucians themselves, the deepest mystery school, no question about it, connected directly to that great white brotherhood.
[01:13:01]  And again, white being representing the aura of purity in the esoteric sense.
[01:13:08]  It doesn't relate to anything to do with race or anything else.
[01:13:13]  But the Great White Brotherhood is the standard for understanding the Ascended Masters.
[01:13:18]  If you look on the esoteric side and the esoteric traditions, once you get into people who are looking into Rosicrucianism, it's direct, it's like interlocked.
[01:13:32]  The Rosicrucians are right in the heart of the Great White Brotherhood.

=== Great White Brotherhood Mission (08:39) ===

[01:13:35]  So I think when you're looking at the Rosicrucians, you're looking at the top of the mystery school ladder.
[01:13:40]  And we've talked about this before how there are different ranks of schools, and all of them have incredible knowledge for humanity to move the culture forward.
[01:13:51]  But the very top schools, you know, it's very interesting because I have a quote here from Bulwer Lytton relating to this, and it talks about how you, by the time you get to really understanding them, we might not even be talking about a school that's here on Earth.
[01:14:11]  They may reside in an actual Spiritual domain and etheric domain.
[01:14:16]  So it's, you know, it gets very cosmic when you get deep into it.
[01:14:21]  Yes, Miss Livia.
[01:14:22]  Zara Drew just said, I found a lovely map of secret societies and political order to see arrows and linking connections.
[01:14:29]  I would love to see that.
[01:14:32]  Send it to us, please.
[01:14:33]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:14:34]  Some people do fantastic research on this, as we've seen.
[01:14:39]  I wanted to point this out too.
[01:14:40]  This is a picture of a Bacon statue.
[01:14:44]  This is in the Library of Congress.
[01:14:47]  Now, again, Bacon being revered here in America at the Library of Congress, certainly he contributed so much, but when you think about America traditionally, there's nothing to suggest that he contributed anything to the actual American Revolution experiment.
[01:15:03]  So it's interesting what he's doing there.
[01:15:07]  And of course, all you have to do is check the record to find out that he was, in fact, a driving inspiration with New Atlantis for us to create the great American experiment.
[01:15:22]  A couple of interesting.
[01:15:23]  One more question?
[01:15:25]  Oh, sure, yeah.
[01:15:25]  Okay.
[01:15:26]  All right, Najat Madhuri.
[01:15:28]  Great questions tonight.
[01:15:29]  Yeah, everyone's off the charts.
[01:15:30]  I can't wait till we get to the question section.
[01:15:32]  Okay.
[01:15:32]  Any chance Trump is a Rosicrucian or part of the White Brotherhood?
[01:15:36]  He and his family, including Uncle John?
[01:15:41]  Well, Trump was an avid student of Norman Vincent Peale, who was part of that New Thought positivist movement.
[01:15:53]  Which is, you can make it happen with your mind by being positive about it.
[01:15:57]  And Norman Vincent Peale was one of the best at that whole bit.
[01:16:04]  So that suggests a kind of mystery school interest.
[01:16:07]  You don't get into positions relating to very high positions in the United States government without having some real connection on the secret society side.
[01:16:18]  Now, unfortunately, very often those secret societies are not what we're talking about in terms of the noble and ideal mystery schools.
[01:16:28]  Although sometimes we get a break, you know, we get a Kennedy.
[01:16:33]  And so I think when we look at it from that perspective, then it's a little bit different.
[01:16:38]  I would say, in terms of Trump, there's a lot of deep knowledge there in his family relating to the X technology.
[01:16:45]  It's obvious directly through his uncle.
[01:16:47]  And he had the connections to Vannevar Bush, who was a master mason.
[01:16:52]  So I think that we're looking also at Trump as a builder.
[01:16:56]  I think I would look to the Masonic side for his.
[01:16:59]  Kind of mystery connections, as it were.
[01:17:02]  And again, you know, the Masons are a public mystery school in that sense.
[01:17:08]  They seem to be saying in the chat that he might be a Knight of Malta.
[01:17:13]  Oh, well, that's interesting.
[01:17:14]  Yeah.
[01:17:15]  Yeah.
[01:17:16]  Well, I don't think that there.
[01:17:18]  It's hard to say in relation to Trump what guild he belongs to, but I would lean towards the Masonic end of the spectrum.
[01:17:28]  But there's a little something about Trump which is a wild card, and I get the impression that.
[01:17:33]  It's because of the information that his uncle gave him, which we covered.
[01:17:36]  You know, it's our most popular episode, actually, of the X series.
[01:17:40]  I think it has close to maybe 400,000 views, but it's Tesla, Trump, and the time capsule.
[01:17:47]  So you can review that episode if you want more of those Trump connections, which I highly recommend.
[01:17:52]  Let's look at Steiner's references around this.
[01:17:58]  First of all, let's get grounded on what Steiner was talking about in terms of what this information is for.
[01:18:05]  Again, you're watching the Dark Journalist show, and we're going to take your questions in the second part.
[01:18:11]  Ask them all in caps, and it.
[01:18:14]  We'll get to them in about a half hour, somewhere in there.
[01:18:17]  Okay.
[01:18:18]  Steiner, quote The great task of theosophy or anthroposophy is to bring to the world the rejuvenation of which it stands sorely in need.
[01:18:29]  Rejuvenation.
[01:18:32]  We must get beyond the banal and purely material to recognize soul and spirit as powers operating in life.
[01:18:40]  This must be the aim of the work in our groups more and more.
[01:18:45]  We must be permeated with the knowledge that the soul can gain mastery over the external world.
[01:18:53]  This is very important.
[01:18:54]  This is the mission of theosophy.
[01:18:57]  It's the mission of anthroposophy and spiritual science, which are the public mystery schools.
[01:19:02]  This is what they're looking for that the soul can gain mastery over the external world so that we're not subject to it, so that our spirituality isn't threatened by it, that we're not subject to it.
[01:19:14]  So it's don't leave the world, you know, be in the world, but not of the world.
[01:19:18]  So, don't leave the world, the world will leave you.
[01:19:20]  It is the power structures and the kind of lower activities that take place in the world as we see it now.
[01:19:29]  And, you know, let's face it, right now we have a major junk culture.
[01:19:33]  But riding right beside it is this explosion of knowledge and information.
[01:19:37]  And they must have felt very similar, I would say, in Steiner's time.
[01:19:44]  I do feel that when we're looking at Steiner, we're looking at somebody who was trying to give us.
[01:19:49]  That reference, he was trying to say, This is what you're going to need for the 21st century.
[01:19:53]  And he was, you know, especially when he's looking around in this period of time, um, about 100 years ago, he's saying it's all going to happen in 100 years, and that's the period that we're in here.
[01:20:05]  This is a window, uh, so it's the mysteries, it's the return of the mysteries, and how do we deal with that?
[01:20:14]  Uh, so we get these periods when they're very active and they're very deeply public, and we see them, like when anthroposophy came out and theosophy exploded.
[01:20:23]  And then they go kind of quiet for a while, and you get kind of spin off groups, and they see what happens, and then boom, it comes back.
[01:20:30]  So, we're definitely in the swing of these schools coming back, that knowledge being rolled out.
[01:20:34]  And we need it more than ever because the threat from the scientific materialism aspect is just showing up in every corner of our lives.
[01:20:46]  So, it's a crucial thing, I think, that information comes out.
[01:20:49]  Yes.
[01:20:50]  Michael Kowalski said Rosicrucians worked in 108 year cycles.
[01:20:54]  Is this perhaps what Rudolf Steiner was referring to?
[01:20:57]  That would make the year 2023 important, 1915 plus 108.
[01:21:02]  Yeah, well, that's interesting.
[01:21:05]  You could also, certainly, they're working on some schedule.
[01:21:10]  And there are guesses and there are ways and means of looking at those dates.
[01:21:15]  As I understand the 100 year remark, it's 1916.
[01:21:21]  So if they were working on 108 years, that would be 2024.
[01:21:24]  But I've also seen in Theosophy, Them use this thing about the early 21st century.
[01:21:33]  And there are also some other references of Steiner talking at different points of time saying this is taking place around, you know, that in that period past 2000.
[01:21:47]  So it's kind of, you know, we know that we're in the window.
[01:21:51]  That much is for certain.
[01:21:53]  I wish he had just come out and said, hey, look, 2020, that's your window.
[01:21:56]  You got 20 years, make it happen.
[01:21:58]  But he said in 100 years' time, there would be a window.
[01:22:03]  So, There's no question that if you look out from 2016 to say about 2046, that seems to be the window that he's talking about.
[01:22:13]  Let's get it.

=== Secret Societies Reassembled (16:00) ===

[01:22:14]  You know, Manly P. Hall is someone that I think really brought a lot out in relation to the mystery schools with the secret teaching of all ages.
[01:22:24]  And I don't think his story has ever been really well.
[01:22:30]  It's so interesting.
[01:22:31]  He's such an unusual character.
[01:22:32]  It's almost like five people in one.
[01:22:34]  It's almost like he is one of these St. Germain type characters.
[01:22:37]  He's amazing.
[01:22:38]  But he did, in fact, bring forward this information, and who knows where he got it?
[01:22:43]  I mean, he obviously was a deep initiate himself.
[01:22:46]  And later on in life, when he was almost 80, there was a Masonic group that gave him an honorary title because of all the knowledge that he knew.
[01:22:56]  So a lot of people just say, oh, that Manly P. Hall was just a Mason, whatever.
[01:23:00]  But they just gave him the honorary title because he put the information out.
[01:23:02]  They knew that he knew what they knew.
[01:23:06]  So it doesn't look like he had a lifelong.
[01:23:09]  Masonic membership.
[01:23:10]  Let's get into his impression of the Rosicrucians.
[01:23:13]  Quote The Rosicrucians and other secret societies of the 17th century used watermarks as mediums for the conveyance of cryptographic references and books presumably containing Baconian ciphers.
[01:23:27]  That's Francis Bacon.
[01:23:30]  They're usually printed upon paper bearing Rosicrucian or Masonic watermarks.
[01:23:35]  Often there are several symbols in one book, such as the Red Cross, urns, bunches of grapes, and others.
[01:23:42]  Remember, this is a language.
[01:23:45]  We have cryptography and then we have stenography.
[01:23:47]  The X stenography is something that is the cornerstone of what we're researching here in this program.
[01:23:54]  At hand is a document which may prove so remarkable a key to a cipher beginning in the tragedy of Symboline.
[01:24:02]  So far as known, it has never been published and is applicable only to the 1623 folio of Shakespearean plays.
[01:24:11]  The cipher is a line and word count involving punctuation.
[01:24:16]  Especially the long and short exclamation points and the straight and slanting interrogation points.
[01:24:22]  This code was discovered by Henry William Bierce in 1900, and after it has been thoroughly checked, its exact nature will be made public.
[01:24:32]  No reasonable doubt remains that the Masonic order is the direct outgrowth of the secret society of the Middle Ages.
[01:24:40]  Nor can it be denied that Freemasonry is permeated by the symbolism and mysticism of the ancient and medieval world.
[01:24:47]  Worlds.
[01:24:48]  Sir Francis Bacon knew the true secret of Masonic origin, and there is reason to suspect that he concealed this knowledge in cipher and cryptogram.
[01:24:58]  Bacon is not to be regarded solely as a man, but rather as a focal point between an invisible institution in a world which was never able to distinguish between the messenger and the message, which he promulgated.
[01:25:15]  This secret society, having rediscovered the lost wisdom of the ages and fearing that the knowledge, Might be lost again, perpetuated it in two ways.
[01:25:29]  And he goes on.
[01:25:31]  Now, I will say this that there's something really key that he's getting at here, which is that the secret societies realized once they had reassembled this information that had been split up that the possibility existed again when you look down the road that if we got into the 21st century, there could be a nuclear exchange, there could be all these societal upheavals, and we would lose it again.
[01:25:58]  Now, we lost it for a long time, all the way back from the Egyptian.
[01:26:03]  Mother culture into the Egyptian, the Atlantean mother culture into the Egyptian Book of the Dead period.
[01:26:11]  And then there's a long wait before the Rosicrucians come back and bring this information forward.
[01:26:18]  So they were looking at it and figuring out how can we do this?
[01:26:21]  And this is where steganography comes in.
[01:26:24]  This is where the communication of the ideas comes in.
[01:26:27]  But they were also looking for people who they could train, who could carry on the tradition without.
[01:26:34]  Letting that secrecy out.
[01:26:36]  This is why there's such a hardcore secrecy veil over masonry and in the deeper aspects of Rosicrucianism, because only through that secrecy can the actual work survive.
[01:26:49]  Because letting that out to the modern society allows them to become the target.
[01:27:00]  So they moved in, just like they avoided the Inquisition, for example, they moved in ways to get that information out.
[01:27:08]  And by the time you get to Blavatsky, they figure, okay, the onslaught is on, scientific materialism is here, bam, let's let it out.
[01:27:15]  Psychic information, meditation, reincarnation, ascended masters, cosmic significance, it's all hammered out suddenly 1875, boom, there we go.
[01:27:25]  Yes.
[01:27:25]  I think it's really important.
[01:27:27]  I mean, someone was just saying that they hate secret societies, Jennifer Mimon.
[01:27:32]  And I understand that I came from that perspective, but I have to say, I'm leaning more into understanding.
[01:27:41]  The necessity of keeping things secret only because I've seen what's happened, sort of, I'll say it with a Q movement and things like that.
[01:27:54]  There's, you let a little information out and it wreaks havoc and people abuse it.
[01:28:01]  That's by design.
[01:28:02]  That's interesting.
[01:28:03]  It's by design also because once they have the information, they might be able to do something with it.
[01:28:08]  Yeah, that's a great point.
[01:28:09]  Could you talk a little bit about the risks?
[01:28:12]  Yes.
[01:28:12]  I think theosophy.
[01:28:14]  And Steiner both outlined this incredibly well.
[01:28:18]  Here's the thing the government lying about, say, advanced technology or taking your money to work on projects and then running, you know, creating this black budget backdoor to harvest the citizens and using a wall of secrecy like the National Security Act to say we have the right to do that because we're protecting you.
[01:28:42]  That's the kind of secrecy we need eradicated from the society.
[01:28:46]  Because it doesn't allow the society to grow in the same rate and with the same information that a small group of elites get to do.
[01:28:56]  So we never get to that place because a small group has pirated it.
[01:29:01]  The problem is also that the small group that has pirated the information is not very spiritually advanced.
[01:29:06]  They're some of the most base people around.
[01:29:09]  So that's also part of the issue.
[01:29:12]  It might be a little bit different if they were spiritually advanced and knew how to get it out to the public.
[01:29:16]  But erecting that wall of secrecy and having henchmen like the NSA and CIA protect it while breaking down constitutional rights of individuals, you know, that's a major problem.
[01:29:29]  Now, let's talk about the mystery schools and the information that they let out.
[01:29:34]  The mystery schools had this battle, remember, it's recorded by Steiner, in 1840, in 1845, where the scientific materialism was so overwhelming that they looked down the road.
[01:29:48]  A small group inside of those schools looked down the road and said, by the time you get to the mid 20th century, you won't recognize humanity if you let it go like this.
[01:29:56]  So we better let this stuff out.
[01:29:58]  But there were still groups who were just only good at secrecy.
[01:30:01]  That's what they knew how to do.
[01:30:02]  They were mystery schools who kept the rights and they kept the information and they knew what to do.
[01:30:10]  But they didn't know how to let that information out.
[01:30:12]  They didn't have a good program for releasing that to the public.
[01:30:15]  But there was a group that said, We can speed this up, we can do this.
[01:30:19]  And there was a lot of back and forth.
[01:30:21]  And so what happened was there's a decision that was taken to introduce spiritualism.
[01:30:26]  This was the first real move spiritual healing, mediumship.
[01:30:31]  And the spiritualism craze that took over in the 1850s America.
[01:30:35]  That's part of that decision.
[01:30:37]  You know, it's interesting.
[01:30:38]  I'm just sort of putting things together right now as I'm listening to you.
[01:30:42]  It's actually Gurdjieff's movement was better.
[01:30:44]  It should have been that movement because theosophy was too, it fed into everybody's fantasies too much.
[01:30:55]  And it wasn't about preparing a vessel, it seems, like just being able to work hard, right?
[01:31:01]  Like, can you build a pile of rocks, right?
[01:31:05]  All of that.
[01:31:06]  Seems like you have to start from the ground up, right?
[01:31:08]  It's true.
[01:31:09]  To prepare the vessel to receive the spiritual insight, and that everybody wants to cut to the chase.
[01:31:15]  Can I see visions?
[01:31:16]  Right.
[01:31:16]  Can I see angels?
[01:31:17]  Can I see dead relatives?
[01:31:18]  All of that.
[01:31:19]  Yeah, they want the enlightenment.
[01:31:21]  It is interesting.
[01:31:23]  I think they're different formulas.
[01:31:24]  They don't know what's going to work and what's going to help the society, but they are that guiding hand, and it is experimentation.
[01:31:32]  But I will say this Theosophy is incredible.
[01:31:38]  It is.
[01:31:40]  At its cradle stood true initiators.
[01:31:42]  That's what Steiner had to say about Blavatsky and her work.
[01:31:45]  Theosophy gave us the message.
[01:31:47]  They helped us get out of the dark ages.
[01:31:50]  So we got that incredible boost.
[01:31:53]  I think what happened was about 30 or 40 years in, it lost its way because there were people who were just running around saying, Well, I represent this ascended master or whatever, you know, just like we have clowns around now who say they're galactic ambassadors or whatever.
[01:32:08]  All that stuff was active then too.
[01:32:10]  And they had marketing machines and there was disinformation.
[01:32:13]  And exploitation.
[01:32:15]  Oh, yeah.
[01:32:16]  I mean, if you go back and really read those things, half the time they're like, you know, how can you be basically saying all this fraudulent stuff about the Theosophical Society?
[01:32:26]  Because there's a lot of competition generally, I think, in that period.
[01:32:31]  And just like now, we have them and we deal with them all the time in the circle.
[01:32:35]  You know, look at JFK Jr.'s alive and this kind of BS that gets thrown out there just for people to get their heads working on something, you know, some.
[01:32:44]  New crazy mystery.
[01:32:46]  That's not what it's about.
[01:32:47]  That's a kind of titillation that is entertainment.
[01:32:50]  The mystery school work literally uplifts the culture.
[01:32:54]  It has a track record.
[01:32:55]  Look at Steiner's work.
[01:32:58]  We have biodynamic farming, Eurythmy, the Waldorf schools.
[01:33:02]  This has made a better culture.
[01:33:06]  Casey's work, no one's more documented.
[01:33:08]  Four decades, affidavits of people, healing, prophecies, all the rest of it.
[01:33:16]  This is the, you know, The incredible fruits of the work these people did.
[01:33:21]  But Blavatsky's work, I think, is spoken of with reverence by people like Steiner because they knew it was the breakthrough and that the real masters of wisdom tradition was working through those schools with Blavatsky.
[01:33:35]  And even though in that particular line, she laid the foundation, but then wasn't able to kind of finish the package.
[01:33:44]  And the people she gave it to, again, were high minded, like Besant, who did incredible work.
[01:33:51]  But it took Steiner's work bringing it back to this Western.
[01:33:55]  Initiators' esoteric version of Christianity that was going to that was the setup for what we were moving into in the 21st century.
[01:34:03]  That was the tool that we needed.
[01:34:05]  It is the tool we need for the harmonic transhumanist aspect.
[01:34:08]  It is interesting though when you think about the connecting the dots on that, it's quite wild.
[01:34:12]  Yeah, um, did you want to say something else about that?
[01:34:16]  No, but there's just I can't, I actually can't wait till you finish off suits because I want to get to the questions.
[01:34:21]  I love that.
[01:34:23]  Um, Olivia speaks her mind, everyone.
[01:34:25]  You're watching the dark journalist program.
[01:34:27]  This is a very, very interesting deep dive into these characters.
[01:34:32]  And I have to say that when we get around Steiner, when we get around Francis Bacon, when we get around Blavatsky, we're starting to get a sense that there's a movement that is parallel with everything else that's happening in society.
[01:34:49]  It's a group, and they're watching and trying to guide humanity.
[01:34:53]  And what we're trying to do is tune in to that through the things that they've left behind for us.
[01:34:59]  And it's very interesting, we're talking about Notre Dame.
[01:35:02]  That was one of the gifts, basically, from these schools.
[01:35:06]  And very interesting when we get into that the fires that they're having in Paris.
[01:35:11]  And you see that legacy that they've left behind.
[01:35:15]  So, all those things are incredible losses.
[01:35:20]  Okay, so let's cut here.
[01:35:23]  You know, I had that quote, which was John Dunn, and it's the For Whom the Bell Tolls quote.
[01:35:33]  I like this part, I will read it, which is No man is an island entire of itself, every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.
[01:35:41]  If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or thine own were.
[01:35:53]  Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
[01:36:05]  That's John Dunn, but Ernest Hemingway would bring it out an incredible book for whom the bell tolls.
[01:36:11]  That is someone again, this is that literary tradition of the mystery tradition influencing these very deep insights, I will say.
[01:36:23]  Quick thing here on Bulwer Lytton, Edward Bulwer Lytton, who wrote Zanoni, and he was referenced by both Theosophy and Anthroposophy as being an initiate.
[01:36:35]  And Zanoni is all about.
[01:36:37]  A Rosicrucian angel.
[01:36:40]  And he also wrote The Coming Race and just quite remarkable stuff.
[01:36:45]  But this is somebody who was directly influenced by the Rosicrucians.
[01:36:48]  Bulwer Lytton was also, by the way, a political figure.
[01:36:50]  I guess in England, you can have that kind of double life where you're a literary figure and you're also a famous politician.
[01:37:00]  I guess Francis Bacon had both as well.
[01:37:03]  But Bulwer Lytton is more 19th century, and his books are like 19th century sci fi.
[01:37:09]  Giving us things about concepts about Vril and the coming race, and just incredibly the insights that were going on with these people, trying to give us some idea that there was some extra technology that was related to this spiritual advancement.
[01:37:23]  We're still catching up to it.
[01:37:24]  But this is what he had to say about the Rosicrucians, and I quote Venerable Brotherhood, so sacred and so little known, from whose secret and precious archives the materials for this history have been drawn.
[01:37:41]  Ye who have been retained from century to century, all that time has spared of the august and venerable science.
[01:37:50]  Many have called themselves of your band, many spurious pretenders have been so called by the learned ignorance, which still, baffled and perplexed, is driven to confess that it knows nothing of your origin, your ceremonies, or doctrines, nor even if you still have local habitation on the earth.

=== Etheric Spiritual Realm (04:37) ===

[01:38:15]  Edward Bulwer Lytton and Zanoni.
[01:38:18]  This is the reference to this other thing.
[01:38:21]  What is it?
[01:38:21]  What is this guiding hand that is keeping humanity going?
[01:38:26]  And it is this mystery tradition operating sometimes on a spiritual level and sometimes on a physical, that interface.
[01:38:36]  But certainly we're getting an idea there, but he's saying, not even if you still have local habitation on the earth.
[01:38:45]  Gets us into this idea that they might be operating from this etheric spiritual realm.
[01:38:52]  Very important to keep in mind.
[01:38:54]  Steiner's impression and a couple of real interesting keys that he gave us in relation to the Rosicrucians was that they represented the full force of the Western mystery schools and that they were basically the deepest school.
[01:39:11]  Steiner's anthroposophy, in many ways, is patterned after the Rosicrucians and Steiner himself.
[01:39:21]  You know, although he didn't come out and say this, the impression is that he is in, he said he was an initiate, had been initiated by one of the masters of these schools.
[01:39:31]  He didn't say what the school was.
[01:39:34]  So there's a kind of secretive thing there.
[01:39:37]  But in my opinion, it was the true Rosicrucian schools.
[01:39:41]  Now, let's touch on real briefly the Americanization of Rosicrucianism.
[01:39:48]  And remember, it was the original.
[01:39:51]  Rosicrucians that came over here and helped found America.
[01:39:54]  And that was in Philadelphia in the 17th century before the American Revolution.
[01:39:59]  It's very important to keep that in mind.
[01:40:04]  Now, one quick thing, and it's a little gem here from Steiner, I want to give.
[01:40:08]  We're going to do a show on St. Germain coming up, but I want to let this piece out now, which is it seems to me that when he talks about the past lives of these individuals, it's quite remarkable because St. Germain.
[01:40:25]  According to Rudolf Steiner, was Christian Rosenkreutz.
[01:40:31]  Of course, Saint Germain shows up as an actual figure during the time of Casanova and in the royal court, and he's spoken of very highly in theosophy and anthroposophy.
[01:40:44]  But he is a transformative figure, and in Steiner's looking at this through the Akashic Record, he singles out Saint Germain as the reincarnation of Christian Rosenkreutz.
[01:40:57]  And he says that Christian Rosenkreutz.
[01:41:00]  Is the reincarnation of Lazarus, who Christ raised from the dead.
[01:41:04]  So, we're getting a real deep input there as to why this is such a high figure, why this is such an important aspect that Rosenkreutz is able to bring forward, because he is basically, he has this spiritual background from these different lives.
[01:41:22]  Yes, Ms. Olivia.
[01:41:23]  I'm just laughing.
[01:41:25]  Steve Bosco said, Is that Chris Elliott?
[01:41:29]  This is definitely that, you know, that picture is pretty classic, but yeah, he's.
[01:41:35]  I love those pictures of the ascended.
[01:41:37]  Well, they're idealized.
[01:41:38]  Yeah, they're fantastic.
[01:41:39]  And some of them really glow off the page.
[01:41:44]  Okay, let's do this.
[01:41:48]  Now, going into Rosicrucian influence in America, let's touch on the fact that there's this very unusual story about how the American Constitution got passed in the first place and the Declaration of Independence.
[01:42:05]  Now, There was a lot of push pull around the Declaration of Independence, and there were a lot of these different states that didn't want to go along with it, were afraid of the retribution, etc.
[01:42:17]  It's just like, I guess, groups are afraid of Google and Facebook now, and they're teetering on an edge.
[01:42:26]  But what I will say is that there's always been mystical stories in relation to it and how it got passed.
[01:42:32]  And one of the stories that Jefferson told is in Manly P. Hall's Secret Destiny of America, which is Definitely a good one for us to touch on here at this point.
[01:42:41]  Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[01:42:43]  It is a fascinating thing for us to take a deep look at what's happening with the real Mystery School influence in America.

=== Declaration Of Independence (02:56) ===

[01:42:52]  And it seems to me, as we look closer at it, their presence here is no accident.
[01:43:00]  This is their experiment.
[01:43:02]  This is their New Atlantis.
[01:43:04]  We are their experiment.
[01:43:06]  Yes.
[01:43:06]  Right?
[01:43:06]  Yes.
[01:43:07]  We have to see it that way.
[01:43:08]  No doubt about it.
[01:43:09]  Now, of course, they.
[01:43:11]  They operate all over the world and they have different experiments, but certainly the New Atlantis America is one of their prizes.
[01:43:21]  It's a great crowd tonight.
[01:43:22]  Already fantastic questions.
[01:43:25]  And for any questions that come up, all in caps, it'll make it a lot easier for Miss Olivia, who is really playing incredible tennis over there.
[01:43:35]  Okay, now this is straight from Manly P. Hall's book.
[01:43:38]  According to Jefferson, it was late in the afternoon before the delegates gathered their courage to the sticking point.
[01:43:45]  The talk was about axes, scaffolds, and the gibbet.
[01:43:48]  And the gibbet sounds pretty bad.
[01:43:51]  When suddenly a strong, basically saying, we don't want to be hanged, you know, we don't want British retribution, there's some fear among these delegates.
[01:44:01]  Suddenly a strong, bold voice sounded gibbet.
[01:44:05]  They may stretch our necks on all the gibbets in the land.
[01:44:08]  They may turn every rock into a scaffold, every tree into a gallows, every home into a grave.
[01:44:17]  Yet the words of that parchment can never die.
[01:44:21]  The Declaration of Independence.
[01:44:24]  They may pour our blood on a thousand scaffolds, yet from every drop that dies the axe, a new champion of freedom will spring into birth.
[01:44:33]  The British king may blot out the stars of God from the sky, but he cannot blot out his words written on that parchment there.
[01:44:42]  The works of God may perish, his words never.
[01:44:47]  The words of this declaration will live in the world long after our bones are dust.
[01:44:53]  To the mechanic in his workshop, they will speak hope, to the slave in the mines, freedom.
[01:44:59]  But to the coward kings, these words will speak in tones of warning they cannot choose but hear.
[01:45:06]  Sign that parchment.
[01:45:08]  Sign if the next moment the giver's rope is about your neck.
[01:45:12]  Sign it.
[01:45:13]  Sign even if the next minute this hall rings with the clash of falling axes.
[01:45:17]  Sign by all your hopes in life or death, as men, as husbands, as fathers, brothers.
[01:45:25]  Sign your names to the parchment.
[01:45:30]  Or be accursed forever.
[01:45:33]  Sign, and not only for yourselves, but for all ages, for that parchment will be the textbook of freedom, the Bible of the rights of man forever.
[01:45:45]  No, do not start and whisper with surprise.

=== Sign Your Names To Parchment (07:19) ===

[01:45:49]  It is truth.
[01:45:49]  Your own heart witnesses it.
[01:45:51]  God proclaims it.
[01:45:52]  Look at this strange band of exiles and outcasts suddenly transformed into a people, a handful of men weak in arms, but mighty in godlike faith.
[01:46:05]  No, look at your recent achievements, your Bunker Hill, your Lexington.
[01:46:11]  Then tell me, if you can, that God has not given America to be free.
[01:46:18]  It is not given to our poor human intellect to climb to the skies and to pierce the counsel of the Almighty, one.
[01:46:26]  But methinks I stand the awful clouds which will veil the brightness of God's throne.
[01:46:34]  And then he goes on a little further and then collapses in his chair.
[01:46:40]  He's in a very unusual outfit, too, which is interesting.
[01:46:43]  It's a kind of uniform.
[01:46:45]  And he leaves on his own and he enters on his own, which you're not allowed to do because it's guarded.
[01:46:50]  This is a very unusual figure that showed up to help pass the Declaration of Independence, according to Thomas Jefferson.
[01:47:00]  Quite remarkable the Mystery School impact in those moments.
[01:47:05]  I see these figures as initiates coming forward to complete the plan and to give those people courage.
[01:47:11]  At really dire moments where they thought that their entire lives were on the line.
[01:47:15]  That's the courage that we needed to create the nation, to get this Declaration of Independence.
[01:47:22]  And it's the same courage that we need more here, right here in the 21st century, face down with this kind of technocracy and this kind of transhumanist movement that's moving in.
[01:47:38]  But I will say this from Bacon to Steiner.
[01:47:43]  And the influence of the mystery schools through Shakespeare.
[01:47:49]  If we look at it, if we really see what the program is, they're moving the culture because they know these forces, it's going to be the clash, and they're trying to give them that ancient wisdom as a tool to help them reconnect with their spirit, and that will reconnect them with their courage in order to move the culture to a deeper place.
[01:48:12]  And it seems like.
[01:48:14]  You know, when we look at Kennedy facing down the missile crisis or even Reagan negotiating the nuclear reductions, when we look at these different things that have happened in history and people causing, you know, a great pushback against the government when it's been out of line, we can see that that courage exists and they understand that they have the tools to help bring it up in humanity's consciousness.
[01:48:43]  This is really the period that we need it where.
[01:48:47]  In the regular run of things, they're making us try to forget that ability over and over again and just think of ourselves as a consumer and under a control grid and what can you do and all the rest of it.
[01:48:59]  The mystery schools have those answers and they've been bringing them forward.
[01:49:04]  And it was, in fact, the Rosicrucians who helped to give us that initial message through the New Atlantis of Francis Bacon.
[01:49:12]  Yes, Miss Olivia.
[01:49:13]  Nancy Dunn is articulating probably something that a lot of people.
[01:49:18]  Think and I wanted to get your take on it.
[01:49:20]  Yes, so she says the secret destiny of America is the takeover of our country by these secret societies and their quest for world domination with Lucifer as their king.
[01:49:30]  What do you say?
[01:49:32]  Well, you're talking about left hand schools, so left hand schools have an occult agenda that's upside down.
[01:49:40]  So when you talk about the Rosicrucians, like the Rosicrucians, um, they're not coming from that place.
[01:49:48]  Now, here's the other risky thing about This information and this knowledge, which the mystery schools possess, can be misused.
[01:49:57]  And when we look at that and we see the kind of people who grasp for power, then you can see how, when you have great abilities that have been vouchsafed down through noble groups, then stealing those secrets or pirating them and parodying them is something that is a constant threat.
[01:50:23]  But so I think we have to separate when you're talking about a mystery school versus a kind of a left hand secret society.
[01:50:31]  The left hand secret societies want to use, in a Crowleyan fashion, they kind of want to use the ability to dominate, to have an advantage.
[01:50:42]  And their whole answer to everything is power.
[01:50:45]  So that's a very different thing from what a mystery school is, though.
[01:50:49]  So we have to not, you know, get out of the Mickey Mouse caricature version.
[01:50:54]  Of, hey, you know, those guys use secret symbols.
[01:50:57]  They must be evil, you know.
[01:51:00]  No, the sacred symbols are given down through the highest brotherhoods and they are given down through mystery traditions of incredibly advanced individuals.
[01:51:10]  And in some cases, individuals who have transcended physical existence and operate on a spiritual plane.
[01:51:17]  So we have to understand what we're talking about.
[01:51:20]  And, you know, it's a nice punchline.
[01:51:24]  But we have to be careful not to just say, oh, you know, that's Lucifer or Satan or something like that, when you're dealing with an incredibly exalted group that goes all the way back to Akhenaten, for example.
[01:51:39]  Right.
[01:51:39]  The other thing is, you know, our founding fathers are getting maligned left and right these days.
[01:51:44]  But when you really think about it, it's just very basic.
[01:51:47]  These were, you know, landed gentry.
[01:51:50]  They had power, they had influence.
[01:51:52]  They didn't need this.
[01:51:54]  They didn't need to fight the British.
[01:51:56]  No, they did not need this.
[01:51:57]  So, why did they bother doing it?
[01:52:00]  They had a destiny.
[01:52:02]  They definitely had a destiny.
[01:52:05]  Well, here's what I want to do.
[01:52:06]  I'm going to jump to Amor, the kind of modern Rosicrucian verb.
[01:52:16]  And while I'm jumping there, Miss Olivia, if you've got one more, it's okay.
[01:52:21]  The piece that you just read out loud, who wrote that?
[01:52:26]  I forget which one I was reading.
[01:52:27]  The one about sign it.
[01:52:29]  Oh, that's Manley P. Hall.
[01:52:31]  And he's quoting St. Germain?
[01:52:34]  No, no, no.
[01:52:34]  It's Thomas Jefferson's story.
[01:52:37]  There were a number of stories that came out about how the Declaration of Independence got signed, and this one came in the period through Thomas Jefferson saying, Well, this is what happened, that's how we got it passed.
[01:52:49]  Now, the story got kicked around for a long time before anyone understood what was going on there, but it's obvious that there was some kind of Brotherhood Mystery School influence on it.
[01:52:59]  Let's take a quick look at Harvey Spencer Lewis.
[01:53:04]  He started the American version of.

=== Jefferson's Time Capsule Story (14:33) ===

[01:53:08]  The Rosicrucian school and the Rosicrucian order called Amorc.
[01:53:17]  This is a very interesting individual.
[01:53:19]  He founded it in 1915.
[01:53:21]  He had a great interest in Egypt.
[01:53:23]  Wow, that's nice.
[01:53:24]  He definitely had a spiritual way about him.
[01:53:26]  What's fascinating is that he makes reference to getting these circulating occult esoteric information files.
[01:53:38]  And then he starts talking about the Hall of Records under the Sphinx.
[01:53:41]  It's very interesting to me because obviously the person who was circulating that information was the ARE in case he's reading in 1932, which predate him talking about this 1936.
[01:53:51]  So he was picking directly up on that.
[01:53:54]  I mentioned the Sphinx because this group, oddly enough, in the 1930s, actually, let me get the actual date here.
[01:54:05]  Yeah, this is actually 1936.
[01:54:09]  What they do after they build this Rosicrucian temple.
[01:54:13]  And they've been around for 20 years and they've put together and taken these Egyptian artifacts from different museums and collections, and people have given them to them to form the biggest collection of artifacts on the West Coast and almost in all of America, including some of the best, like Metropolitan Museum of Art.
[01:54:33]  They have some of the most incredible Egyptian artwork and artifacts.
[01:54:38]  So they erected this temple in San Jose, and he himself apparently was very psychically inclined.
[01:54:47]  But I think that he actually does a mighty effort to get this going.
[01:54:54]  He's not somebody who I see in the same way as like a Steiner or a Blavatsky.
[01:55:00]  He's different.
[01:55:01]  As we get a lot of these figures in the 20th century, they're drawing on the work of other people and they're just kind of good at doing things on the ground.
[01:55:08]  This guy had incredible business jobs.
[01:55:11]  So in 1936, they put a time capsule, let's see here, in there inside of the Sphinx.
[01:55:18]  At the Rosicrucian Center in San Jose, which is the big temple.
[01:55:23]  Now, if you know anything about stealth archives from watching the X series, you know that time capsules are a big part of that, and that everyone who's involved with those from different presidents like Eisenhower and Nixon and other figures, you also know about the Nixon time capsule story that we brought forward here from Robert Merritt.
[01:55:47]  So there's a great legacy.
[01:55:49]  In these stealth archives, that this information is all going to come out at some point and it's going to move the culture forward.
[01:55:56]  And those people who have been involved with it wanted in those time capsules to let that information out that they were the role that they played involved with this.
[01:56:06]  Now, in their case, it was very odd because there was a news story in relation to it that came out.
[01:56:14]  I'll just give you the headline here, real quick it says Rosicrucian philosophy buried in crypt until year AD 8113.
[01:56:22]  And the story goes archaeologists of 6,000 years in the future will have made the most startling discovery in the history of man when they forced their way into the crypt of civilization in Georgia, which is where they put it.
[01:56:34]  The temple Sphinx is in San Jose, but somehow they wound up putting their time capsule in Georgia.
[01:56:40]  The Rosicrucians, according to Jean de Paix, a local member of the Philosophical Order, have been asked to make an important final contribution to a project begun by Oglethorpe University.
[01:56:52]  So, knowledge to civilization for the year AD 8113.
[01:56:58]  That's pretty far off in the future.
[01:56:59]  It's an odd date, too.
[01:57:01]  The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC, just sent its archives at San Jose, California, upon the request of Dr. Peters.
[01:57:07]  An archivist at Oglethorpe University manuscripts containing the essence of its philosophical doctrines to be included with other chosen works of music, art, science, etc.
[01:57:18]  So they do this and they take part in this, and this thing is going to be opened in 8113.
[01:57:26]  Something very strange happens, which is in 2015, the time capsule gets opened prematurely.
[01:57:36]  And what happens is the leader of Amor, the modern American Rosicrucian version, puts a new time capsule in there.
[01:57:46]  That's him doing it.
[01:57:47]  There's a picture of it.
[01:57:48]  There's an entire ceremony of this online on YouTube, by the way.
[01:57:52]  They don't explain why the timing, but there is a 100 year interval between when it was started and this picture.
[01:58:00]  So this is a 100 year curve.
[01:58:02]  Now, something else rather extraordinary happened on that 100 year anniversary.
[01:58:07]  The White House, and I have double checked this letter.
[01:58:11]  President Obama on March 12, 2015, let's see if you can see this letter real quick.
[01:58:15]  That's a signature down here.
[01:58:17]  Sent them this letter This is from President Obama to AMORC, the Rosicrucian Society in America.
[01:58:25]  I am pleased to join in celebrating your 100th anniversary.
[01:58:29]  In America, history is not only made by presidents and generals, change often comes when caring and engaged individuals join together to build a brighter, stronger future for themselves and for the generations to come.
[01:58:43]  For years, you have carried forward a proud tradition by bearing to imagine the world as it could be and working tirelessly to realize that vision.
[01:58:51]  You're helping America reach a better tomorrow.
[01:58:54]  Congratulations on your anniversary as you reflect on your years of service to your community.
[01:58:59]  I hope you take pride in what you have achieved.
[01:59:02]  I wish you all the best for the years ahead.
[01:59:06]  President Barack Obama, writing to a modern day mystery school.
[01:59:11]  This is quite remarkable.
[01:59:14]  I mean, well, you know, we were doing research for the show, and some people suggested that Obama himself is a Rosicrucian.
[01:59:22]  Very interesting.
[01:59:24]  Yeah, he's definitely highly aware of them sending them that letter.
[01:59:30]  That's their center there in San Jose, obviously.
[01:59:32]  It's got the Ankh up here and lots of Egyptian imagery built in.
[01:59:37]  Now, a couple of interesting things about that.
[01:59:42]  The whole thing about.
[01:59:46]  Amor is that they're drawing on a tradition.
[01:59:49]  So they are, you know, what they're working with is what was brought over.
[01:59:57]  So it's not so much that it's a living tradition, but they are perpetuating the tradition by keeping the ideas alive, which is valuable.
[02:00:06]  And I think that the last active real stream of the Rosicrucian Brotherhood was coming directly through anthroposophy.
[02:00:16]  Now, there was something that said that.
[02:00:18]  Spencer was, you know, he was taken in France and he had gone through the Rosicrucian initiations.
[02:00:26]  I don't know if that's true, but I will say that their presence is interesting.
[02:00:31]  But it seems to me that the real push from the Rosicrucians in the modern era comes directly through the stream of anthroposophy and the Rudolf Steiner schools.
[02:00:44]  That's where it seems to me to be the most vital.
[02:00:46]  But I will say this.
[02:00:48]  Interestingly enough, they have the Francis Bacon Auditorium there when you go to the Rosicrucian headquarters in San Jose, and they claim Bacon as an honorary, you know, someone who they know was a Rosicrucian.
[02:01:05]  Now, the record would tend to agree with them, but I think it's interesting that they're so bold and outspoken about it.
[02:01:14]  So the Sphinx imagery, the time capsules, The mystery school, something very interesting going on with that.
[02:01:22]  And then the letter from Obama.
[02:01:24]  I couldn't resist that aspect.
[02:01:26]  And with that, Miss Olivia, I'm going to turn the floor over to you.
[02:01:29]  Okay.
[02:01:30]  So could you clarify about that time capsule in Georgia?
[02:01:36]  Because people are wondering if it has anything to do with the Georgia Guidestones.
[02:01:40]  Well, that's pretty interesting.
[02:01:43]  It's to be opened in 8113.
[02:01:46]  And the story itself is odd.
[02:01:49]  I will say that what they're saying is 50 such capsules will be placed in the time crypt and they will contain 320,000 pages of knowledge.
[02:02:02]  Cecil Poole, Supreme Secretary of the Rosicrucian Order, said the request for the Rosicrucian manuscripts was made because they represent a contemporary philosophy with its roots in the systems of thoughts which began centuries before the present era.
[02:02:17]  The crypt was officially sealed in May of 1940.
[02:02:21]  Now, What's weird is the Rosicrucians have their own time capsule situation.
[02:02:26]  So it's interesting to me.
[02:02:28]  I guess Oglethorpe University in Georgia could answer that question.
[02:02:34]  And maybe that's where you get some answers if it has any relation.
[02:02:37]  Now, the Georgia Guidestones, on the Guidestones, they talk about a time capsule.
[02:02:43]  And interestingly enough, they talk about that time capsule.
[02:02:46]  They even give directions to it there, but it doesn't make any sense because it says it's six feet from blank.
[02:02:54]  But they know that there's a time capsule aspect.
[02:02:57]  It's recorded there in the Georgia Guidestones.
[02:02:59]  The Georgia Guidestones overhead, not to be spooky, but form an X.
[02:03:04]  They definitely have the X steganography embedded in its RC Christian, Rosicrucian Christian, basically.
[02:03:12]  So the person who put it there, it's been surmised from a number of people, was a Rosicrucian, this RC Christian.
[02:03:21]  So we know that there's a tie in there.
[02:03:24]  The 8113 AD.
[02:03:27]  Date is very odd, I think, and bears a little further investigation on that.
[02:03:33]  The 100 year time capsule, which the Rosicrucians opened there at their school, they just placed a new time capsule in there.
[02:03:43]  I guess that one is for 100 years.
[02:03:45]  I'm not sure.
[02:03:46]  But they showed a map of all the time capsules that they have, and there were a number of them all over the world.
[02:03:51]  And interestingly enough, the majority of them were in Europe, which is where Rosicrucianism, of course, started in Germany.
[02:03:58]  So, however, that Breakthrough to America, and the group that came over here and brought Rosicrucianism to America to influence the founding fathers.
[02:04:09]  That whole thing that happened came from Germany over to America.
[02:04:14]  So, these groups were definitely coordinating there at this kind of period of time that Bacon is in.
[02:04:21]  No question about it.
[02:04:23]  Okay, so this is a big question from Salim Salam again.
[02:04:27]  Mr. DJ, what is so special about Germany?
[02:04:31]  This is a fascinating question.
[02:04:33]  We've wondered this ourselves.
[02:04:38]  Well, look, whenever I've studied Germany, I can tell you this most of our technology comes from Germany.
[02:04:47]  And whenever I went into it, I would always find it was German this, German that, phones, televisions, everything.
[02:04:54]  So then, when you think of this great philosophy and the great movements, science movements, and all the rest of it, all through Germany.
[02:05:03]  So there's something kind of remarkable about this stream of culture emanating from there.
[02:05:13]  And I will say that there are so many roots in Germany and.
[02:05:19]  The surrounding area that gives us the culture that we have today.
[02:05:25]  Now, there is a legend about, you know, Rudolf Steiner talking about these initiates that go off to Europe, and some of them definitely land in India.
[02:05:39]  But the Atlantean initiates, some of them, although we know that the grand majority start the Egyptian culture, there are others.
[02:05:47]  And I think it's quite likely that they spawn.
[02:05:52]  This whole incredible German culture.
[02:05:57]  And it is quite remarkable.
[02:05:58]  And I do feel like there is something very special to remember.
[02:06:01]  Okay.
[02:06:01]  And I know this is going to be very controversial to bring up, but I'm going to bring it up.
[02:06:05]  Sure.
[02:06:06]  So we were watching a World War II special, and I can't remember which Nazi said it.
[02:06:12]  Maybe Himmler.
[02:06:13]  He said this is a very, I know what you're talking about, actually.
[02:06:16]  This is when I got this video, which was Mengele's son.
[02:06:24]  Actually, and he talked about how Mengele had been hiding out in South America for so many years, and the son tracked him down.
[02:06:31]  They had a meeting, and he started to talk to him and get to know him for a few days.
[02:06:38]  Hey, Daddy Mengele.
[02:06:41]  Mengele is one of the worst, you know, one of the biggest monsters in terms of manipulating human physiology and, you know, plunging kids into cold.
[02:06:53]  He's a psychopath.
[02:06:54]  Well, no question about it, but he would plunge them into ice to see what.
[02:06:57]  You know, what kind of changes would take place, and then he would, you know, excessive heat and things like that.
[02:07:02]  I mean, the guy was definitely trained to treat human beings like laboratory mice.
[02:07:09]  Now, what's interesting is about the second week that he's there, the son is like, I couldn't hold back anymore.
[02:07:17]  And I, you know, I wanted to know how could you ever be a part of these such horrible experiments?
[02:07:22]  And Mengele got very ticked off at him and couldn't believe he was like, how arrogant, you know, it is for you to say all these things.
[02:07:30]  I was working.
[02:07:31]  You know, for a cause and a people.
[02:07:34]  He said, Don't you get it?
[02:07:35]  The only thing that was going on there is there were two great races that were trying to fight over the rulership of the world.

=== Nazis Versus Jews Conflict (15:57) ===

[02:07:42]  And the two great races were the Nazis, Germans, and the Jews.
[02:07:46]  And that this is the nature of the whole thing.
[02:07:48]  And I was just like a foot soldier and all that.
[02:07:51]  Now, it is quite interesting because that whole perspective, you know, there's always a justification.
[02:07:57]  People always have worked that.
[02:08:02]  Floored by the whole thing.
[02:08:03]  The larger picture of it is Are there these races of people that dominate at different points that are kind of looking to outdo each other and become the master race?
[02:08:15]  And we know that the Nazis took that to the ultimate limit and with very tragic results, unfortunately.
[02:08:20]  What I thought was so fascinating about that is that he was acknowledging that the Jews were a great race.
[02:08:26]  That he said, We are, the Germans are a great race, the Jews, and that this is sort of a fight to the death.
[02:08:32]  And, you know, it just, To get into the psychology, the consciousness.
[02:08:36]  It is.
[02:08:36]  Well, Mengele, though, remember so many of those high ranking Nazis had the whole thing was about a race battle and that they had to be the ultimate race.
[02:08:47]  And they were taking their cues and distorting all kinds of different types of esoteric information, including Darwinism.
[02:08:56]  But, you know, you can, like, do you remember when I was reading about New Atlantis?
[02:09:00]  You could take Bacon's ideas when he was talking about, you know, improve the race, improve the culture, improve their physical ability, improve their intellect.
[02:09:08]  And then think about the kind of real circus that the Nazis had with their, like, well, if you have a certain slant to your forehead, you're advanced, and if you don't, you're not.
[02:09:19]  And if you have blue eyes, you're advanced.
[02:09:21]  I mean, that was really, that's like they were doing this whole kind of false thing to present themselves as superior.
[02:09:30]  So they were distorting the information.
[02:09:32]  But it is interesting, whenever you look over all of those, Leaders that are in the Nazi movement, you'll find them very interested in Blavatsky's work around the Aryan culture, which existed in Atlantis periods.
[02:09:48]  But again, they're distorting the information.
[02:09:50]  So anytime you see these specials, sometimes about Blavatsky or whatever, and they'll be like, she inspired the Nazi movement.
[02:09:57]  I mean, it's a ridiculous thing on its face because you can take information and use it any way that you want.
[02:10:03]  But there's nothing in Blavatsky's information that says, go exterminate a whole different race.
[02:10:08]  Right, exactly.
[02:10:09]  But again, this sort of validates.
[02:10:12]  The mystery schools keeping things.
[02:10:14]  This is the tricky thing.
[02:10:15]  You release it and you don't know what's its unintended consequences.
[02:10:18]  It is.
[02:10:19]  Well, think about it.
[02:10:19]  The symbol of the swastika was maintained.
[02:10:22]  It was even an early part of the Theosophical imagery, and that was a topsy turvy X.
[02:10:29]  So it is quite fascinating.
[02:10:30]  When you get into it on that level, wow, it's totally off the charts.
[02:10:35]  But you can see the most base reading of it is we'll be superior, we'll have the esoteric information and we'll dominate.
[02:10:41]  That's like Belial or the Aramonic thing.
[02:10:44]  So it is, yeah, it's totally off the charts.
[02:10:46]  Go ahead.
[02:10:47]  Okay, so Pam Sutson, where are most of the Rosicrucians today in 2019?
[02:10:55]  Most of, well, you want to talk about the secret ones or the ones that are in public?
[02:10:59]  Both, of course.
[02:11:02]  Certainly, America is an incredibly robust Rosicrucian scene through AMARC.
[02:11:10]  But I would say the vast majority is concentrated there in Germany and France and in other Central European countries.
[02:11:19]  There are lodges for a mark even as far as Australia.
[02:11:24]  And listen, Rosicrucian ideas are foundational ideas of philosophy, advanced spirituality.
[02:11:32]  So it's just a matter of, you know, when you're looking at mystery schools, I make this delineation sometimes.
[02:11:41]  You've got the actual mystery schools, then you have other schools beneath it.
[02:11:45]  And the lesser schools, as it's understood, have about, you know, a certain percentage of that knowledge of the larger.
[02:11:52]  Like the Great White Brotherhood of the Rosicrucians.
[02:11:55]  The lesser schools would have parts of that, but they need to work more to get up to that level.
[02:12:01]  And then there are other groups that are schools of where they just kind of repeat these things.
[02:12:09]  They're arcane schools.
[02:12:11]  They know the rules, they maintain the tradition.
[02:12:14]  And then you have private groups underneath that.
[02:12:18]  And then you have public study groups that work in small groups around a set of ideas.
[02:12:25]  And in the final analysis, you have public groups, which is what most people know of as mystery schools.
[02:12:30]  So in that whole mix, the Rosicrucians and the Masons have their public version.
[02:12:35]  Which is just, it's kind of like a caricature of the whole thing.
[02:12:40]  And you can learn things just on a surface level from those groups without being a deeper member.
[02:12:46]  But if you were somebody in the inner kind of esoteric circle of something like the Rosicrucians, that's probably a very different experience than working with AMORC, which is more of a public organization so people get acquainted with ideas.
[02:12:59]  Yeah.
[02:13:00]  Okay, so Windhammer asks Is there not also a divide in the Western schools, i.e., black and white magic?
[02:13:06]  And Marco Zerpa wants to know who is the opposite?
[02:13:09]  To the Rosicrucians in today's society?
[02:13:11]  Someone suggested that that would be Scientology.
[02:13:18]  Oh, yeah.
[02:13:19]  Well, you can get very deep if you go into Hubbard's end of things.
[02:13:24]  What I would say is this about we have to understand the left hand schools.
[02:13:28]  Look, the Golden Dawn, for example, was a school of magical scrolls that were found in the mid 19th century.
[02:13:41]  And those scrolls were put together by the same person, by the way, who put together Trithemius, who put together ex steganography and let that out.
[02:13:52]  Well, he didn't go for the ex steganography, he just talked about steganography.
[02:13:56]  And it is known as a text within a text.
[02:14:00]  That is the kind of hidden message that only an initiate can see.
[02:14:04]  But in steganography, remember, it's hidden in everyday life.
[02:14:08]  So it's not something that you know is a puzzle and you have to solve, which is more like cryptology.
[02:14:14]  Or cryptography.
[02:14:15]  So it's very interesting when you look at these different developments because, again, that what the Golden Dawn found was related to what Trithemius was putting out.
[02:14:31]  And so they reinterpreted it, everybody got reinvigorated, and boom, they had this schism inside, and it nearly destroyed the whole thing.
[02:14:40]  And then people like Crowley and stuff picked up on elements and aspects because they were good.
[02:14:46]  They were good at.
[02:14:48]  Understanding ritual.
[02:14:49]  They were good at these aspects of it.
[02:14:51]  But their ideals weren't similar to something like what a real Golden Dawn mystery school would be.
[02:14:56]  So we have streams, you could almost call them polluted streams of information that exist around the mystery schools.
[02:15:05]  And what you have to do is try to extract the best that you can from the different offerings.
[02:15:13]  But there have been good people associated with movements like the Golden Dawn, for sure.
[02:15:17]  You've had some of the great literary minds associated with it.
[02:15:21]  And so, some people out there, like Dion Fortune, over time have given us a good idea of some of these different groups and what's good about some groups and what's not so good about others.
[02:15:33]  But in terms of who the Rosicrucians opposite would be, there are secret groups.
[02:15:41]  See, what's weird is what people don't really understand is there are actually harmonic groups, quite a few, actually.
[02:15:48]  Oh, God, yes.
[02:15:49]  Yeah.
[02:15:52]  So, you know, they're spread out.
[02:15:54]  And so you have this kind of public battle that's going on between groups that want to bring forward something that is useful to the culture and other groups that are kind of trying to harvest their members.
[02:16:09]  So that's where we get all these cults and everything else from.
[02:16:11]  Okay.
[02:16:11]  On the most basic level, aren't there basically just two paths?
[02:16:15]  And one is we want to worship God or we want to become God, right?
[02:16:23]  Is it, I mean, you could.
[02:16:24]  Well, yeah.
[02:16:25]  I think that.
[02:16:27]  It is.
[02:16:27]  Look, there are many ideas, right?
[02:16:30]  We have a series of ideas, and Eastern ideas, Western ideas, cosmic ideas.
[02:16:35]  But if you could split them just into two at the highest level, there are those that sort of do not seek to become gods, presume upon God, and there are those who do.
[02:16:49]  They just sort of want to wipe out the idea of a heavenly father, a creator, and they want to deny his existence and become as gods, right?
[02:16:58]  Ultimate rebellion.
[02:16:59]  Yeah.
[02:17:00]  Well, you could also say, though, it's interesting because a lot of this gets to ideals, too.
[02:17:07]  Those groups, those two divisions exist the way you talk about them, exactly.
[02:17:12]  But I would say this somebody could think that, you know, I'm showing up for church and I'm learning this stuff by rote and that's how I'm getting along.
[02:17:20]  But that can actually, doing things mechanically can actually promote Arman.
[02:17:25]  So I can be a Bible thumper and be promoting Arman.
[02:17:30]  So it's very, so it's tricky.
[02:17:32]  It doesn't, It's hard to get into the black and white aspect, just like you were talking about with Gurdjieff.
[02:17:37]  Gurdjieff was saying you have to work and get in touch with your body in order to ascend this way.
[02:17:42]  And Theosophy was saying you have to understand that there's a higher order that you can be a part of, that you have to kind of tune into the masters.
[02:17:50]  And it's interesting because there are different avenues for that higher knowledge.
[02:17:55]  But if you go into something like OTO, and if you're talking about Crowley and this whole end of things, there is do what you want.
[02:18:04]  Will is the whole of the law.
[02:18:05]  That's a very different ideal than trying to help humanity.
[02:18:09]  It's totally different.
[02:18:10]  Yeah, what a lot of people are saying is basically service to self or service to others.
[02:18:15]  It is.
[02:18:16]  It is.
[02:18:16]  That's a very good way to.
[02:18:18]  I like simplicity, and very often I don't like getting away with simplicity, because I know there are layers to these things.
[02:18:26]  Let's think of it like this that fundamentally, let's face it, all the knowledge in the world, and you can build the atomic bomb.
[02:18:35]  But if you don't have the wisdom of how to use it, you blow yourself in the world up.
[02:18:42]  It doesn't matter how smart or how erudite your culture is.
[02:18:45]  This is part of what was happening in the Cold War.
[02:18:48]  These groups were looking across from each other and saying, My God, with the press of a button, just like now, we're having these tensions with Russia.
[02:18:57]  It's so absurd that we could just wipe out culture, all these things that have been worked for by millions, billions of people.
[02:19:06]  To move the culture forward.
[02:19:08]  And you've got this ridiculous situation where the mastery of physical science has given us the ability to obliterate everything.
[02:19:17]  So you can see that that's not the answer.
[02:19:20]  Simply subduing physical matter isn't the answer.
[02:19:25]  If you don't have the spiritual counterpart, it's a losing battle, ultimately, although a lot of people are very happy to play that game.
[02:19:33]  Yes, Miss Olivia.
[02:19:37]  I love these questions, by the way.
[02:19:39]  Before we go any further, I want to remind everyone you're watching the Dark Journalist show.
[02:19:43]  We're going to take questions for about 10 more minutes.
[02:19:45]  We probably get three or four more questions in.
[02:19:47]  It's been fantastic touching on the new Atlantis.
[02:19:50]  Whenever we get into it, there's so much more for us to sort out, shall we say.
[02:19:57]  And we can see that during the course of the X series, we're trying to bring this information forward and give us a place to start.
[02:20:05]  And the X steganography is a fundamental place to start if we work with the idea of the mystery schools and the things that they have left behind.
[02:20:14]  And very often we're darting to the next revelation or whatever it might happen to be.
[02:20:19]  The question really is, though, what have they left for us?
[02:20:21]  What do they have there for us to interpret?
[02:20:24]  And that's what gets us to the next step by using the information that they've left.
[02:20:28]  Yes.
[02:20:29]  Hi, Perian.
[02:20:30]  Steiner said the Aramonic force would manifest as the Antichrist in the early 21st century.
[02:20:35]  He specifically said the Antichrist would be born in the latter half of the 20th in America.
[02:20:42]  Well, I don't have that information.
[02:20:47]  No.
[02:20:47]  I do think that he talked about this period of time, but he didn't talk specifically saying, hey, he's going to be born in such and such and then manifest here.
[02:20:58]  So, I've read a lot of Steiner.
[02:20:59]  I haven't seen that one.
[02:21:00]  If you have something like that, you can email it to info at darkjournalist.com.
[02:21:07]  And I think that when he talks about a physical incarnation of Araman, he does say it's going to happen.
[02:21:13]  That's absolutely right.
[02:21:16]  But it's not pinpointed as to exactly when.
[02:21:21]  We know that we're in the general window.
[02:21:24]  So, it could happen sometime, say, over the course of the next 100 years.
[02:21:30]  But He certainly, there's nothing about Ahriman where he says he's incarnated in the late 90s and he's going to be 20 or whatever.
[02:21:39]  It doesn't exist.
[02:21:41]  But any of those lectures where you think that there's a reference that might be to a date, please send it over.
[02:21:50]  I've read the Ahriman lectures pretty thoroughly and I haven't seen anything like that.
[02:21:54]  Yeah.
[02:21:55]  Okay, David Donaway.
[02:21:56]  Was Atlantis corrupted absolutely?
[02:21:58]  And what will make a new Atlantis different?
[02:22:02]  Well, this is the thing, which is we are the new Atlantis.
[02:22:06]  And so it, you know, in the.
[02:22:09]  We are repeating history.
[02:22:10]  Yeah.
[02:22:11]  In the esoteric tradition, we in Atlantis messed up.
[02:22:15]  We were these spiritual beings that could do anything.
[02:22:18]  And we reverted to this very physical technology and blew everything up and created an apothecary effect, which almost destroyed the entire wave of advancement.
[02:22:30]  So, What we have to do is face it again.
[02:22:35]  So they made the mystery schools help make the new Atlantis for us to work that out and move into that role as mastering the lesson instead of being subdued by it.
[02:22:49]  So there's no question about it that we are the returning Atlanteans.
[02:22:53]  And if you look at the work of Casey, I mean, of course, you have to believe in reincarnation for this, but I happen to.
[02:23:00]  And in the mystery schools, they're all set up around reincarnation.
[02:23:06]  Because they understand once you get to that level that there are incarnations that take place for humanity.
[02:23:12]  So, the group, the time period that we're entering now is the same period when the Atlanteans had this clash between the Amelius group and the Belial group.
[02:23:20]  And they are active, ever so active again.
[02:23:24]  And here we are.
[02:23:26]  Yes.
[02:23:26]  So, what do we need to do?
[02:23:28]  What did we fail to do in the original Atlantis that we need to do now if there's still time to save things?

=== Lucifer Gnosis Interface (14:04) ===

[02:23:39]  Well, I mean, I think from the mystery school point of view, there's definitely time to save things and that it's an ongoing situation.
[02:23:50]  It's very clear if you look at the esoteric tradition that the big mistake was getting locked into material thinking only and losing the spiritual connection and kind of separating that part of our.
[02:24:09]  So, to be very concise about it, it seems like getting obsessed with power and getting obsessed with the material plane is an imbalance on a soul level.
[02:24:24]  We've seen it happen with people over and over again.
[02:24:26]  We were just reading this incredible story, and it had to do with actually the brother of this fellow who works for TTSA and Mellon, his younger brother, because they're the Mellon family.
[02:24:43]  And this guy had everything going for him.
[02:24:44]  He was a Bitcoin billionaire and everything else.
[02:24:47]  And he was on this incredible, you know, kind of hamster wheel of taking drugs and just this incredibly stimulated lifestyle.
[02:25:01]  And it burned him out at 54 when he was trying to get rehab, actually.
[02:25:06]  And it's amazing when you think about it because people can have all the opportunities handed to them that other people would dream about, but they can still be mishandled.
[02:25:17]  On a personal level.
[02:25:19]  So you see that that information drawing forward, getting closer to your own spiritual understanding, can sometimes be the difference between life and death, depending on the situation that you're in.
[02:25:34]  And in his case, you know, he had become addicted to this lifestyle.
[02:25:38]  And we've looked at many cases like this.
[02:25:42]  You know, it's always interesting, I think, Olivia, when we look at this, because.
[02:25:48]  We always, you know, it becomes difficult to understand how did somebody go over the edge?
[02:25:52]  They had everything going for them, but it was this addiction to, you know, in this case, it was drugs.
[02:26:00]  But it is that physical embodiment, it's the projection too much of the self into the physical environment.
[02:26:08]  And as we see, it's very easy to do.
[02:26:10]  So let's talk just a little bit about Lucifer and Aramon.
[02:26:14]  So, Richard Humphrey will say, do Lucifer and Aramon exist on the same plane?
[02:26:23]  Well, it's very interesting.
[02:26:24]  One of the things that anthroposophy in Steiner's work has brought forward is very significant about Lucifer and Aramon.
[02:26:30]  They bring forward Aramon as the actual Satan.
[02:26:33]  That's what we understand as the evil force in the Bible and all the rest of it.
[02:26:36]  That's Aramon.
[02:26:38]  Lucifer is different, but also is working across purposes with humanity.
[02:26:44]  So what he says is not so much, we're not supposed to kind of flee from these.
[02:26:52]  Forces.
[02:26:52]  We're supposed to face them and gain knowledge from that facing up to them, gain something, meet the test, and overcome it.
[02:27:02]  So, you know, it's understood that in esoteric lore that the Luciferic, what they call Lucifer Gnosis, gave us the ability of speech a little too early.
[02:27:13]  So there were groups that were operating with humanity early on when it was developing.
[02:27:20]  And some of them, you know, gave us incredible gifts, you know, of culture.
[02:27:26]  And others were very detrimental.
[02:27:29]  The harmonic force was always detrimental.
[02:27:32]  The Lucifer Gnosis, depending on how we interacted with it, if we could face it and just take the advancement of it, it was different.
[02:27:42]  But unfortunately, the Lucifer Gnosis acts more like the harmonic force now.
[02:27:46]  So they're all, you know, it is down this path.
[02:27:49]  What's interesting is if you go into those esoteric texts, Lucifer Gnosis is known as a light bearer, light bringer.
[02:27:59]  So they see the knowledge and the information and the wisdom.
[02:28:03]  Differently, and they tried to separate out the idea of Arman from Lucifer Gnosis.
[02:28:08]  But because in Steiner's work, if you look at Arman and you think of it, if you merge those two, you're missing a lot.
[02:28:18]  And it actually is much better if you understand them separately because you can face them separately.
[02:28:24]  But in either case, they are extremely problematic.
[02:28:28]  But Arman in particular is trying to create this eighth sphere.
[02:28:34]  And it is, in fact, that's kind of like a harvesting, a soul harvesting thing.
[02:28:39]  Now, that's a cosmology that we're talking about there with Steiner, but the eighth sphere is an artificial step in our evolution.
[02:28:48]  So, in anthroposophy, you'd go through these steps, you would leave the earth and have these different incarnations on the planets in these different environments.
[02:28:58]  You wouldn't be in a physical body, you'd be in something else.
[02:29:02]  And then you gain in that system.
[02:29:04]  But if you move from this system into an artificial eighth sphere and then come back to the earth, you become more base.
[02:29:11]  You don't move through these different systems and develop that kind of wisdom and spiritual warmth.
[02:29:21]  What happens instead is instead of us, humanity, and this is again Steiner's system, we're supposed to be creating with this mystery school knowledge the ability to create new Jupiter, which is basically going to be the new version of Earth in the evolutionary tract.
[02:29:37]  This is the cosmology.
[02:29:39]  Now, what happens instead is if Armand and Lucifer are successful in completing the eighth sphere, they harvest humanity by keeping them in this zone, not creating this extended new Jupiter.
[02:29:58]  So that is the issue, which is humanity is unaware and falling prey to this transhumanism, and that is this eighth sphere trap.
[02:30:09]  We've done shows in the eighth sphere, but that is basically the thrust of the Mystery School message, which is these forces, the harmonic forces keep you, and you think that you're advancing actually.
[02:30:23]  You have all these, you know, it feeds you fantasies that you're advancing, but what's actually happening is you're getting sucked into this eighth sphere.
[02:30:31]  So, yeah, that's kind of a long answer for that, but I think you get the idea.
[02:30:35]  Okay, we'll take two more and then we're out.
[02:30:37]  Three more.
[02:30:37]  Okay, so sometimes people, somebody just comes up with the question.
[02:30:41]  Yes.
[02:30:42]  Peter Bayonne.
[02:30:43]  Is all the talk about Luciferianism in the Truth Committee just a distraction from Aramon?
[02:30:49]  Whoa.
[02:30:49]  Boom.
[02:30:50]  Well, now we're talking about Aramon.
[02:30:52]  See the difference?
[02:30:55]  In Steiner's work, look, Aramon is the evil character in the Persian mythology.
[02:31:02]  It's very interesting to me that Aramon got revealed through Steiner's work.
[02:31:08]  Aramon's twin is Ahura Mazda.
[02:31:12]  Ahura Mazda is the Christ figure fighting Aramon.
[02:31:17]  But they're twins.
[02:31:20]  Now we see a lot of twin mythology in ancient Greece, we see it in Persia, Chaldeans, and so on.
[02:31:29]  So, they're trying to give us a hint there that something about we're involved with the development, the evolution.
[02:31:37]  They are involved.
[02:31:38]  The challenge of evil, the challenge of Araman is involved with our own development.
[02:31:43]  It's not something we can just easily get out of.
[02:31:45]  And we have to face it.
[02:31:47]  And in order to face it, we have to be spiritually conscious.
[02:31:50]  That's what the kind of mystery school training is all about to develop a complete being that can face these forces and then move on.
[02:32:00]  When the being isn't developed, when it's undeveloped, or if it's underdeveloped in certain aspects and encounters something like an Aramonic force, it can easily be kind of magnetized into this eighth sphere, false version of a kind of a fantasy.
[02:32:19]  And we see it over and over again, like we were talking about with people with addictions and things.
[02:32:23]  That's purely Aramonic.
[02:32:26]  So I think that we get into a situation where they've given us the keys to start to look at this.
[02:32:33]  There is a cosmology involved as well.
[02:32:37]  But there's no question that there's an overemphasis and we don't quite understand.
[02:32:44]  I don't think that we have quite the understanding of, you know, it's too simplified, a lot of the versions of the devil and Satan and things like that.
[02:32:52]  I mean, you can have someone online who you don't agree with who thinks you're the devil because you don't, you know, agree with them.
[02:32:58]  So, yeah, I mean, we've seen this all the way back to witch burnings and stuff.
[02:33:03]  We have to advance in our concepts of what good and evil are all about.
[02:33:06]  There's no question about it.
[02:33:08]  Yes.
[02:33:09]  Okay, so Philip Blair.
[02:33:10]  And by the way, I don't like them trying to eliminate Christ from things like schools and newspapers and all this kind of stuff.
[02:33:19]  I think that under the guise of being liberated from bad religious practices, that we just get rid of all the religious aspects.
[02:33:29]  No, no, no, no.
[02:33:29]  That's not good for society at all.
[02:33:32]  Okay, so Philip Blair is desperate to find out why the Dalai Lama sounds like Rudolf Steiner or vice versa?
[02:33:41]  Basically, were Blavatsky and Steiner influenced by Buddhism or Jainism?
[02:33:45]  Oh, yeah.
[02:33:46]  Well, no question about it.
[02:33:47]  I mean, Blavatsky in particular, you know, you could say that that's really a lot of her work is an Eastern interpretation of mystery school methods.
[02:33:58]  But it is, you see, that the Eastern aspect gives us the foundation.
[02:34:02]  It is without it, we can't move forward into that Western tradition and have this moment.
[02:34:06]  However, if you look to the mystery schools, the timing is such that the Western mystery schools have to take the lead now.
[02:34:12]  If we let the East take the lead again, it would be like, you know, it's almost like your parents set you up for school and they put you through college and then you have to face it off on your own.
[02:34:23]  It would be like getting out of college and then asking your parents for money to live.
[02:34:28]  You know, it's time for the Western mystery school to move forward and take on the challenge.
[02:34:36]  It's not the time for the East.
[02:34:37]  The East set up the Western.
[02:34:39]  And so that's where we are.
[02:34:40]  The great challenge is apparently.
[02:34:44]  The sweep of materialism that the temptation for people in Western cultures to get caught up in that materialism, as we've seen, and lose those traditional understandings, spiritual understandings, that's a great danger.
[02:35:00]  And so that's society wide, we see it.
[02:35:03]  And there's kind of a collapse of a moral structure.
[02:35:07]  But there's also a collapse of cultural norms that goes with it.
[02:35:11]  And that's the thing that we can see so obviously.
[02:35:13]  Yes.
[02:35:14]  Okay, Najat Madri, last question.
[02:35:18]  And it's a big question.
[02:35:19]  How do we avoid the eighth sphere?
[02:35:23]  Well, by studying the mystery schools' information about it, no question about it, they've left an incredible legacy.
[02:35:32]  So the question is, what have we done with the legacy?
[02:35:36]  The Steiner work lays out in great detail what the eighth sphere is and how the harmonic forces are gearing up early in the 21st century here to really make a major move.
[02:35:50]  So definitely getting.
[02:35:52]  Sucked into it's funny because you know, I've pointed this out before, but I spent all these years as a technology editor, and so I'm a big technology guy.
[02:36:02]  It's all about, you know, the technology though adds with it that element of danger because it has the ability to kind of convert your attention.
[02:36:13]  And so, in operating like that, it can be very dangerous if you have to find a way, a kind of a practice to interact with the world.
[02:36:22]  It's like be in the world, but don't be of the world.
[02:36:24]  Like we started, so um, but I think just being conscious, uh, in your daily life and avoiding a kind of mechanical routine is the first step towards avoiding the kind of harmonic eighth sphere activity.
[02:36:38]  But I would study uh, knowledge of higher worlds, um, any of the Gurdjieff teachings, theosophy, these things I think are a definite antidote to what we see going on now.
[02:36:52]  But I do feel like there is a the thing that we're seeing the most is people who grow up with the technology.
[02:36:58]  Have to see it as outside of themselves and stop kind of, you know.
[02:37:04]  Right, because they're about to bring it into their own bodies.
[02:37:06]  Yeah, they're projecting it into the Borg, and it's going too far.
[02:37:10]  And that represents a danger.
[02:37:12]  You know, we were talking about how Elon Musk, who's very, always says these things, you know, against artificial intelligence, but he went on record saying that he wanted to project his consciousness into a cube.
[02:37:26]  The reason I bring that up is, you know, you can't.
[02:37:32]  So, you know, your soul is connected.
[02:37:35]  If you understand anything about mystery schools, they give you the information about how your soul is connected to your astral body and your ethereal body.

=== Higher Worlds Knowledge (04:19) ===

[02:37:44]  And that goes through a chain of glands, including your pineal and pituitary gland and your leydic glands.
[02:37:52]  And that is part of an actual, your endocrine system.
[02:37:57]  It's kind of a spiritual interface.
[02:37:59]  So the idea of you blinking out into a box, it's not going to happen.
[02:38:04]  Okay, incredible questions tonight.
[02:38:07]  And I, you know, we have a show on St. Germain coming up.
[02:38:11]  We're just going to draw in all of these characters we've talked about tonight again, but with more information.
[02:38:18]  And St. Germain, there's some very special things about it.
[02:38:21]  I have quite a fondness for the Ascended Masters.
[02:38:25]  Yes.
[02:38:26]  Well, they're talking your language.
[02:38:28]  That's what it is.
[02:38:28]  Yeah.
[02:38:30]  Well, I mean, I think we need help.
[02:38:33]  Well, here's a tantalizing.
[02:38:35]  Clue for the Saint Germain show.
[02:38:40]  Annie Besant, who took over the leadership for the Theosophical Society, claimed to have met Saint Germain in around 1900, but Saint Germain on the books is said to have died about 1801.
[02:38:56]  So it's very interesting to think about who she met there.
[02:39:03]  And Blavatsky, who Was fond of saying different things about Saint Germain, said something to the effect of, Oh, he's about 300 years old now.
[02:39:16]  So, something very unusual about Saint Germain, and certainly some of the things attributed to him were basically like junk conspiracy back then.
[02:39:25]  However, these figures, these ascended figures interacting with us on a daily level, how possible is that?
[02:39:34]  That's a real deep level, looking at the mystery schools.
[02:39:37]  But the ascended masters, it's a different class.
[02:39:40]  It's a different class of people.
[02:39:42]  So, regular rules just don't apply.
[02:39:45]  And again, are we talking about people who've jumped up to the etheric level?
[02:39:49]  It's tough to say.
[02:39:51]  That one we're going to have coming up for you.
[02:39:54]  But we will be back next Friday.
[02:39:57]  Yes, Miss Olivia.
[02:39:58]  Okay.
[02:39:58]  So, if some, there are sometimes we get some newbies who haven't watched the other shows and they are wondering what occult book to start with.
[02:40:06]  What if you just a real primer on the whole thing?
[02:40:09]  Start with X Series number one.
[02:40:11]  Oh, no, actually, what book?
[02:40:13]  No, I know, but I'm saying start with X Series number one because the books are in there.
[02:40:19]  I like knowledge of higher worlds.
[02:40:21]  Or Theosophy by Steiner.
[02:40:23]  And I think that that's a terrific place to start.
[02:40:26]  Tertium Organum by Ospensky.
[02:40:28]  Yeah, these are highly intellectual books.
[02:40:32]  Yes.
[02:40:32]  Well, Knowledge of Higher Worlds, though, is like, I always call that Steiner's hit single.
[02:40:36]  It's the only time you ever talked kind of very down to earth.
[02:40:40]  But certainly, I think that one's an excellent one to start with.
[02:40:45]  I think that those are better to recommend than Manly P. Hall's, because Manly P. Hall's is, if you want to become a real expert.
[02:40:53]  But yeah, I would definitely insert the miraculous as another one.
[02:40:56]  Of course, that really takes you on a journey.
[02:41:00]  So you have to be ready for that.
[02:41:03]  But highly, highly recommend any of those.
[02:41:07]  New Model of the Universe by P.D. Ospensky.
[02:41:09]  It's a remarkable book.
[02:41:11]  And of course, a lot of those are dated.
[02:41:13]  If you want something, I mean, they're classics.
[02:41:17]  But if you want something, some of the more modern stuff from the Gurdjieff side would be Bennett's work, for example, Transformation, which I think he wrote in the 70s.
[02:41:29]  That stuff is quite remarkable.
[02:41:30]  Autobiography of a Yogi.
[02:41:33]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[02:41:34]  Sorry, it's my favorite book.
[02:41:35]  I've read it more times than I can count.
[02:41:37]  Yes.
[02:41:37]  It is a touchstone for me.
[02:41:39]  If you want a place to start that's more Eastern, that's what I would recommend.
[02:41:44]  Yeah.
[02:41:48]  Jocelyn Goodwin's books on Atlantis and sussing out the histories are very interesting.
[02:41:54]  Any of the Casey books, quite remarkable, I would say.
[02:41:59]  But fantastic.
[02:42:00]  Wow.
[02:42:00]  What a great crowd tonight.
[02:42:02]  Unbelievable.
[02:42:02]  Off the charts.

=== See You Next Week (04:56) ===

[02:42:03]  We will see you next Friday.
[02:42:06]  Okay.
[02:42:06]  So that's not tomorrow.
[02:42:07]  It's a week from tomorrow.
[02:42:09]  Well, a week from tomorrow, we will have the actual next X series.
[02:42:13]  However, you never know tomorrow or Saturday, something else may come up.
[02:42:18]  Something else may be happening.
[02:42:19]  Okay.
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[02:42:32]  We've made it very affordable, and you're going to want to be a member of Dark Journalist this summer in particular, because we have some incredible things that are going to be coming up for subscribers.
[02:42:43]  As those who came to the Graham Hancock event just found out a little while ago, it pays to be a member.
[02:42:51]  And yeah, it's incredibly inexpensive.
[02:42:54]  It's like $5 a month, and it helps move the information out there.
[02:42:59]  And I always say we need to get behind the things that are moving the conversation and moving the culture.
[02:43:05]  And on this July 4th, what I can say is it's important for us to recognize the role of the mystery schools in setting up this incredible freedom experiment and independence that is America at its best.
[02:43:20]  And hopefully, we get to live up to all the gifts that those who created this situation for us and this environment and the great experiment to really move forward.
[02:43:34]  So, that's my hope on July 4th, 2019.
[02:43:38]  And we will see you next week.
[02:43:40]  Okay.
[02:43:40]  I did want to say I wanted to dedicate this episode to Destiny X938.
[02:43:47]  This is a message from his wife.
[02:43:48]  Hi, everyone.
[02:43:49]  My husband watched this every week.
[02:43:52]  I don't know how much he interacted with y'all, but I wanted to let you know he died last week.
[02:43:56]  I'm messaging from his account.
[02:43:58]  Oh, my goodness.
[02:43:59]  So we are so sorry for your loss and grateful if we could add any value.
[02:44:05]  Incredible.
[02:44:06]  Incredible.
[02:44:08]  Well, we're so glad that he watched and.
[02:44:12]  You know, we wish you all the comfort in the world.
[02:44:14]  I have to say that it's so important sometimes when we think about the incredible spiritual experiences that people are going through that, you know, sometimes it seems that the world is very superficial, but there are people who are going through very deep lessons.
[02:44:31]  And that's something which I think we can all be closely a part of.
[02:44:37]  And I have to say, you know, it's great to see everyone coming out today, it's just fantastic.
[02:44:44]  There's a few people.
[02:44:47]  Esoteric369, fantastic to see you.
[02:44:50]  Bruce, great.
[02:44:52]  Catherine Harris.
[02:44:53]  Catherine Harris.
[02:44:54]  A cult fan.
[02:44:55]  A cult fan.
[02:44:56]  He's out there.
[02:44:57]  Kate, I do want to thank you.
[02:44:58]  David Romina.
[02:44:58]  It's good to see you.
[02:44:59]  Hyperion, it's been great tonight.
[02:45:01]  Hyperion, fantastic.
[02:45:04]  Ting Ting Shiny, there we go.
[02:45:06]  I like that one.
[02:45:07]  Brenda Fisher, fantastic.
[02:45:10]  And we have some super chatters.
[02:45:11]  If I'd take a minute to thank them.
[02:45:13]  Yes.
[02:45:14]  Okay, so Carol Andrews, GDNPB.
[02:45:18]  Gabriel Akari, Bill Gomez, Igor St. George's Butler, Anita Grinwald, Scabtree Scabby, Jessa Lynn, Robert Ordaz, and Russell Boyles.
[02:45:29]  Thank you so much.
[02:45:29]  Fantastic.
[02:45:31]  Thank you.
[02:45:31]  We really appreciate it.
[02:45:33]  And finally, I have to say to everyone that this weekend is Olivia's birthday.
[02:45:39]  And so we all applaud Olivia and wish her the very best for a very happy weekend.
[02:45:46]  Where is my cupcake?
[02:45:48]  There was no cupcake, but we still have time for that one.
[02:45:51]  A large round of applause.
[02:45:52]  Applause for all the incredible things that you do.
[02:45:55]  Thank you so much and happy birthday.
[02:45:57]  Thank you.
[02:45:57]  Incredible.
[02:45:59]  And everyone out there, I know that everyone is wishing you a happy birthday.
[02:46:04]  I can feel this wave coming through.
[02:46:07]  And we definitely want to.
[02:46:10]  Yes, what do you got?
[02:46:12]  William Quimby decided to donate to my birthday, my birthday cupcake.
[02:46:17]  Thank you.
[02:46:18]  Exactly.
[02:46:18]  So, Miss Olivia, as usual, you get the last word.
[02:46:21]  What's for dinner?
[02:46:22]  Well, I'm going to have to do something.
[02:46:23]  I need a candle on my birthday.
[02:46:25]  I just do.
[02:46:26]  So, we'll have to remedy that immediately.
[02:46:29]  You're doing it.
[02:46:30]  Preferably on something chocolate.
[02:46:35]  Pretty good.
[02:46:36]  We will see you all next week.
[02:46:39]  And it's been fantastic to have everyone with us.
[02:46:42]  And all I can say is oh, someone else asked about books.
[02:46:45]  Secret Destiny of America by Manly P. Hall.
[02:46:48]  That's a short read.
[02:46:49]  It's actually a nice book to give us a good snapshot of the Secret America.
[02:46:57]  Some major fireworks here in about 10 minutes.

=== Whistle The National Anthem (00:47) ===

[02:47:00]  I can hear it off the distance.
[02:47:02]  Aha.
[02:47:02]  Thank you so much, everyone, and we will see you next week.
[02:47:05]  Thanks, everybody.
[02:47:09]  Just listen to those explosions in the distance.
[02:47:12]  Actually, I'm surprised we haven't heard more yet.
[02:47:14]  I thought you were going to whistle the national anthem.
[02:47:17]  You know, I can't whistle.
[02:47:20]  That is not the national anthem.
[02:47:26]  It's like the little sailor theme.
[02:47:30]  I keep picturing George Washington marching.
[02:47:37]  Oh, it's got to be like that.
[02:47:41]  What is the national anthem?
[02:47:42]  Star Spangled Banner, right?
[02:47:44]  I'm not going to whistle that.