Dark Journalist - DARK JOURNALIST X SERIES PART 36: JFK & THE ERNEST HEMINGWAY X-ENIGMA IN THE HOTZONE!
Aired: 2018-11-24
Duration: 02:55:22


=== JFK Assassination and UFO Files (07:02) ===

[00:00:04]  And we are live.
[00:00:05]  This is Dark Journalists.
[00:00:06]  It's fantastic to be here with everyone in this post Thanksgiving broadcast for the 55th anniversary of the JFK assassination.
[00:00:15]  As usual, I'm joined by the lovely Olivia.
[00:00:18]  Hi, everybody.
[00:00:19]  And it's been a fantastic week just seeing everyone kind of get geared up for this Friday and their holiday.
[00:00:26]  So I hope everyone had a fantastic Thanksgiving.
[00:00:29]  Of course, we've had a very busy couple of weeks here coming into this special broadcast for the JFK assassination.
[00:00:37]  And I have said leading up to this that we're going to bring some things to the fore here in this episode and in next Friday's episode and Saturday, a week from tomorrow.
[00:00:47]  Those are going to be three episodes that encompass this whole report.
[00:00:51]  And the report relates completely to the connection between the famous writer Ernest Hemingway and JFK and a number of things that have come up in relation to this.
[00:01:01]  Now, given that we have the 55th anniversary of the JFK assassination, with still very little word on the official side about what really happened.
[00:01:11]  We're going to go in the first segment here into a number of things that have happened on the paperwork side that is trying to get papers from the government relating to the assassination, and also having people like RFK Jr. come forward saying that they don't believe the official story and that John Kennedy's brother Robert didn't believe the official story to go deeper into what actually happened.
[00:01:34]  Now, we've presented a few things that were particularly noteworthy in terms of historical value.
[00:01:41]  In relation to the JFK assassination, of course, I always cite the work of Professor Peter Dale Scott and his remarkable deep politics in the death of JFK.
[00:01:50]  I want to say this in relation to Professor Scott that Professor Scott coined the term the deep state that you see thrown around so much in mainstream and alternative media and really never really capturing the essence of what he meant by it.
[00:02:05]  So we're going to get into that tonight because, in my opinion, the work of Professor Scott, who we've had on the program, On a number of occasions, and who really has had a large influence in the way I think about these deep state events.
[00:02:19]  You know, we're going to spotlight his particular take coming into this, too.
[00:02:24]  And then on top of that, I'm going to bring the vision that he had of the continuity of government players involved in this into that secret space aspect so we get a nice full picture of how the UFO file comes into play here on the political side.
[00:02:40]  Of course, Professor Scott doesn't get into the UFO file, and we wouldn't expect him to.
[00:02:44]  But certainly, taking that model of the way that he thinks about these things with all the nested details and levels around it, we get a much better picture of how to look at an event like the JFK assassination.
[00:02:57]  Of course, the psychic shock of an event like that worldwide, but particularly in America, and the policy changes that followed that really wound us up in this situation some 50 years later.
[00:03:08]  Now, this is the X Series episode number 36, and it is all about the JFK.
[00:03:15]  Hemingway X mystery and how this is going to play in.
[00:03:18]  Now, a quick thing here about the X series is that what we do in this series is we look for the steganography that will guide us to the answer to a number of truths relating to secrecy.
[00:03:30]  And the secrecy we see over and over again in government programs is something that I've researched over the course of about five years here using this X as a kind of a guide.
[00:03:44]  And what I noticed was that these programs all used the X.
[00:03:49]  And that they were using it as an internal signaling router.
[00:03:55]  And that internal signaling router would let these people know which programs were top secret and which ones had gone black and which ones had reemerged through various government agencies.
[00:04:07]  And I always refer back to the series of X planes that started as a secret project under Walter Dornberger, who plays into both the John F. Kennedy assassination and also into the development of X technology.
[00:04:20]  Of course, Dornberger was wanted for crimes at the judgment at Nuremberg for.
[00:04:26]  Having slave labor build V 2 rockets in Nazi Germany.
[00:04:29]  And his pupil, his star pupil, was Werner von Braun, the father of the American space program.
[00:04:35]  But just a minute, the actual father of the American space program was Dernberger.
[00:04:39]  And that's why he plays such an important role as we get deeper into what actually happened with that assassination.
[00:04:47]  But the X technology and the way that it is hidden and guided through that UFO file is very crucial.
[00:04:55]  One of the interesting things I found out about Midway.
[00:04:58]  Through my research on this, it is that the X steganography is very old.
[00:05:04]  It actually comes from a mystery school tradition and it's been transplanted into these 20th and 21st century programs of secrecy.
[00:05:11]  However, you can find it all the way back to the Book of the Dead.
[00:05:14]  And if we knew more about prehistory, it's hanging out back there.
[00:05:18]  And so that X designator, this steganography through history, that symbolism guiding these mystery schools through the reemergence of the mystery schools at the end of the 19th century.
[00:05:30]  And again, using the steganography to signal what they were doing.
[00:05:36]  And I think that we can get to something of a deep, deep realization when we understand the mystery school aspect combined with the deep state secrecy aspect.
[00:05:48]  If we can put those two together, you get a much bigger picture.
[00:05:51]  You know, very often you get spectacular scholars and researchers and historians on this one end of the spectrum, and they know the documentation, they know the programs, they know the players.
[00:06:03]  That's very valuable insights.
[00:06:05]  However, if they don't know what's fueling the ideology, then they kind of have a blinder.
[00:06:13]  There's one blinker on, and when they're looking out into these deep subjects, they're missing about half the picture.
[00:06:20]  Very often, people who study the mystery school histories don't really have so much of a taste for modern politics with all its shenanigans and circus activities and all the rest of it.
[00:06:30]  So they tend to go in a very scholarly fashion into that deep history, kind of ignoring.
[00:06:36]  The modern political situation.
[00:06:38]  However, it's been my experience that if we can bring these together, if we can take that deep state understanding of, like, a Professor Scott, for example, and combine it with the overview of a Rudolf Steiner through anthroposophy into that prehistory and groups like Theosophy and Anthroposophy and the histories that they've brought forward, if we can understand that key element that's missing in this, which is the mystery school influence on the modern geopolitical process.

=== History Changing Mystery Schools (04:46) ===

[00:07:07]  We're going to be in a totally different ballgame.
[00:07:09]  So that's really where we're headed tonight because this isn't going to be any ordinary JFK assassination special.
[00:07:17]  As I said, we've presented history shaking things before.
[00:07:20]  Last year, of course, we presented on HBO the very interesting documents relating to space that President Kennedy released and the space program.
[00:07:32]  And of course, we've brought forward Watergate, the former Watergate attorney Douglas Caddy, with his story about his close friendship with CIA super spy. E. Howard Hunt, who told him that the reason that President Kennedy was assassinated was over the UFO file.
[00:07:47]  This is very significant.
[00:07:49]  It needs to be entered into the record as we've done.
[00:07:52]  And the kind of earthquake from some of these realizations as we go, I think, really are going to get us to where we need to be led to.
[00:08:02]  Now, also, I want to say that the work that we've done bringing forward Robert Merritt's story, who worked in the Houston plan for President Nixon and came forward last February on this program to tell us that President Nixon had kept a time capsule for disclosure, is absolutely crucial to the large scale picture of the.
[00:08:26]  Things that we're searching for through these various leads.
[00:08:30]  And that his declaration that it was about an energy formula that would make the U.S. energy independent is a crucial linchpin to how all of this can be understood.
[00:08:46]  So, you know, we get sort of recurrent updates from Robert Merritt and his story, but fundamentally, what we have on the record here is that Nixon kept a time capsule in the White House.
[00:08:59]  With that information intact because he wanted to safeguard his legacy.
[00:09:03]  As we've pointed out in this show, a number of presidents have done this with the time capsules.
[00:09:08]  And from what I can tell, it starts with Truman, but certainly the books that they've done in relation to Eisenhower talk all about his Project X time capsule, which is meant soon to be open in, well, it's actually 2053 on that one.
[00:09:22]  We have to wait a while.
[00:09:26]  And that is something that is widely known now.
[00:09:28]  It's not something that we have to guess at.
[00:09:31]  A number of very mainstream writers, including Evan Thomas of Newsweek, is about as mainstream and as opposite from dark journalists as you're going to get.
[00:09:41]  He knows all about it and has written about the Project X time capsule to be released.
[00:09:46]  On this program, we've shown, and we will tonight, the X letters at the LBJ Library to be open soon in 2023.
[00:09:53]  These stealth archives are going to tell us a lot when they're revealed, but their presence is such, like the Nixon time capsule, that we can't get our hands on them.
[00:10:04]  Even though we know that they're there, but we know that we're going to get our hands on them.
[00:10:08]  So they're waiting for something, and we're waiting for something.
[00:10:10]  It's a very interesting back and forth.
[00:10:13]  But largely, unless you look for these things and know how to look for these things, they're going to remain elusive for us.
[00:10:20]  That's just a fact.
[00:10:21]  Interestingly enough, the steganography, in my opinion, having worked with it for some time now, the ex steganography through history and through the mystery schools, through the secret symbolism of these societies, and through the government.
[00:10:36]  The process of the government agencies and how that secrecy moves about through these agents will work very much like the Rosetta Stone.
[00:10:45]  So we're in a totally different paradigm.
[00:10:47]  Of course, the Rosetta Stone, with its discovery in 1799, opened up Egyptian history because it gave us the understanding of Egyptian hieroglyphs.
[00:10:55]  And that's something that these Napoleonic expeditions got us.
[00:11:01]  Before that, the hieroglyphs were just a bunch of pretty pictures.
[00:11:04]  And when we think of it that way, then We really are looking at something which is going to change history.
[00:11:12]  Tonight's program and the three programs that will follow are three programs on the JFK Hemingway Connection, including next Friday with Gigi Young, who really has played a fantastic role in helping us develop some of these concepts in the X series and make some breakthroughs.
[00:11:30]  She's going to be here next Friday to come aboard for part two of this.
[00:11:36]  So, with that, I'm going to jump into my presentation, but first, I'm going to Ask Miss Olivia how we're doing out there.
[00:11:42]  We are doing great.
[00:11:44]  Do you want a question?
[00:11:45]  Sure, absolutely.
[00:11:47]  Kantiki Man wants to know, did you get the X narrative in Oliver Stone's JFK movie?

=== Secret CIA Garrison Files (02:46) ===

[00:11:54]  Of course, that's Mr. X, who is a character that came forward to Garrison.
[00:12:00]  And actually, it was Fletcher Proudy, who had been the intermediary between the Pentagon and the CIA.
[00:12:05]  It is quite fascinating.
[00:12:06]  Of course, Garrison plays a major role tonight.
[00:12:09]  And, you know, Garrison investigated.
[00:12:16]  President Kennedy.
[00:12:17]  That's historic.
[00:12:18]  It's quite important.
[00:12:20]  And a number of people came forward to him, including disinformation agents and including the real deal.
[00:12:26]  And he had to sort through all that information while being targeted himself.
[00:12:30]  So it's quite an epic saga that they covered there in the JFK movie.
[00:12:34]  And it's funny because it's an amazing thing that Oliver Stone did bringing Garrison's book forward, which is On the Trail of the Assassins, which is still one of the greatest books on the JFK assassination because he was there.
[00:12:48]  One of the things that is not really being talked about that I think is very significant is one of the key sets of records that's being blocked right now by the Trump administration.
[00:12:57]  It's actually the CIA, and they've convinced the Trump administration to go along.
[00:13:03]  Is the records pertaining to Garrison's investigation.
[00:13:09]  Now, this is quite unusual because the CIA did interfere quite a bit in the JFK investigation, and particularly with Garrison, but there's something about Garrison's files that they just do not want out.
[00:13:20]  So, whenever A set of files comes out.
[00:13:22]  Garrison's files are never there or they're whited out.
[00:13:24]  So there's a set of files that are actually called secret CIA files on Jim Garrison.
[00:13:30]  It doesn't get any more obvious than that.
[00:13:33]  And those 14 files, which contain somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 to 500 pages, would be extremely eye opening because one thing that we can tie all this together with is Garrison came to the conclusion that it was actually the heart of the conspiracy to remove President Kennedy.
[00:13:54]  On November 22nd, 1963, was devised inside of the aerospace agencies.
[00:14:01]  This is significant because, as we brought forward on this program, the continuity of government players work through these military agencies, and they are the contractors around military agencies and aerospace agencies.
[00:14:19]  For him to have come to that conclusion, specifying now groups like Boeing, like Lockheed, Shows the growing influence or impact of the military industrial complex over American government in that period and how we've wound up with the situation now that we have,

=== Deep State Aerospace Plans (07:41) ===

[00:14:40]  you know, we're tumbling towards this transhumanist future where they want to kind of rip up the Constitution and march us into these corporate zones and control everything through software and AI.
[00:14:51]  That has a root.
[00:14:53]  It didn't just come about, it's part of a long term plan.
[00:14:56]  And if we understand the plan and get to the heart of it, then we certainly.
[00:15:02]  We have a better shot.
[00:15:02]  But yes, it's an excellent question.
[00:15:04]  And Garrison, whenever you get into the JFK assassination, you have to go to Garrison's work because over and over again, he was face to face with the real hardcore players.
[00:15:13]  Yes.
[00:15:14]  Right, that's one more question.
[00:15:15]  Absolutely.
[00:15:15]  Okay, so Zara Drew says Don't the people own these records?
[00:15:22]  Yeah, but there's something in the classification that says if the CIA, for example, can control ways and means and methods that are still in there, then they can.
[00:15:36]  Block any records from coming out.
[00:15:38]  Interestingly enough, you have to imagine after 55 years, first of all, some of those countries don't even exist.
[00:15:43]  The Soviet Union doesn't even exist.
[00:15:46]  And the leadership in Cuba is different now.
[00:15:49]  So there's a number of things there that just don't add up.
[00:15:52]  And certainly, agents that were in the field then, in their 20s and 30s now, would be 80 and 90.
[00:15:58]  I don't think they're out there playing James Bond.
[00:16:01]  So none of the reasons for blocking those records makes any sense.
[00:16:04]  It's an excellent point.
[00:16:04]  I hate to ask this question because I know it's going to be a detour and a very long one.
[00:16:09]  JJK wants to know Do you believe LBJ had prior knowledge to the assassination?
[00:16:14]  Absolutely.
[00:16:15]  Yeah, I've done a number of programs on that, and he had to be on the inside of it.
[00:16:20]  And if we look into the confessions of E. Howard Hunt, who was the major CIA agent of that period, and the things that he told Caddy are one thing, but his own confession to his son related to the fact that LBJ worked with Cord Meyer to, you know, so he worked with the CIA and developed it to help install himself.
[00:16:44]  And the CIA and Johnson were.
[00:16:48]  Had a mutual interest in moving forward in Vietnam and militarizing the world.
[00:16:53]  And Kennedy's sort of push for freedom and push for getting away from that war and push to go into space in a peaceful fashion was very much the anti vision of the Central Intelligence Agency, the deep state of the period.
[00:17:10]  And LBJ was a crucial character in that.
[00:17:13]  It's misunderstood very often, too, about LBJ because he associated himself so well with civil rights later.
[00:17:20]  But his chief contribution, if you look at his record, was to NASA.
[00:17:25]  And as a matter of fact, in the 50s, LBJ was known as Senator NASA.
[00:17:30]  So he was the one who got the appropriations money for NASA.
[00:17:33]  He was the one who worked with the CIA to develop that tight NASA program.
[00:17:36]  He's the one who worked with the paperclip Nazis.
[00:17:38]  I mean, Johnson is a crucial figure.
[00:17:40]  And the heart of that assassination, when you think about Johnson giving up being the majority leader in the Senate to get the lowly post of vice president, he had to understand that he was going to.
[00:17:52]  Inherit this presidency, and he wasn't going to wait eight years to do it either.
[00:17:57]  As we know, also in relation to Johnson, JFK was going to throw him off the ticket because by the time the assassination took place, he was in a world of legal trouble for accepting bribes.
[00:18:10]  And two of his tightest compadres, Billy Celestis, and well, there's actually three because Bobby Baker went to prison also, but they were already in prison or going to prison, and LBJ was next.
[00:18:24]  So When the shots went off in Dealey Plaza and Kennedy was assassinated, that problem was solved because they weren't going to take this guy to trial after they had just lost a president.
[00:18:35]  So it's quite an education there.
[00:18:37]  What I want to focus on tonight is the deep state CIA level in relation to this and how it interacts with the aerospace element that Garrison had found himself face to face with.
[00:18:48]  Now, I want to remind everyone that you're watching the Dark Journalist show.
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[00:19:55]  Yes.
[00:19:56]  Okay, David Tormina has a great question.
[00:19:58]  So, DJ, are you saying the plot to kill JFK was hatched as soon as he was elected?
[00:20:04]  No question.
[00:20:05]  No question.
[00:20:06]  They had it in mind.
[00:20:07]  A lot of people don't understand this that they didn't expect Kennedy won to get the nomination on the Democratic side.
[00:20:14]  That's crucial.
[00:20:15]  They thought LBJ was going to get it, but they forgot about the long arm of the Kennedy money.
[00:20:19]  We have to remember that Kennedy was like Bill Gates.
[00:20:23]  For his period, he was one of the richest people on the planet.
[00:20:28]  So he really was not under the thumb.
[00:20:31]  We can see in relation to Trump, for example, we've had this as well.
[00:20:37]  Where, when you're not under the thumb of the money handlers and that whole process, then you're a real danger to the CIA.
[00:20:45]  That's when they get their antenna up, they get their back up, and they say, We can't manipulate this guy.
[00:20:49]  What are we going to do?
[00:20:51]  Because money is a big piece of that power struggle.
[00:20:54]  We were talking about how when Obama left the White House, he gets a $50 million deal with Netflix.
[00:21:00]  Well, how long has that been brewing?
[00:21:01]  And how many policies did he have to follow in order to get that big cash kickback at the end?
[00:21:07]  This is the way so much of the government is working now.
[00:21:09]  And it has to be uppermost in our mind that when someone goes in there and they already have financial security and you can't buy them, as it were, it becomes, it's definitely a much more dangerous situation for the central intelligence guys, the deep state guys, because they don't know what that person's going to do.
[00:21:28]  In Kennedy's case in particular, they said, here's this young guy, okay, 43.
[00:21:32]  He's actually the only reason he's not the youngest president of the 20th century.
[00:21:39]  He's the youngest elected.
[00:21:40]  But Teddy Roosevelt, you know, acceded by the assassination, you know, from the vice presidency into the presidency there early in the 1900s.
[00:21:55]  So he was actually 41.
[00:21:57]  So technically, Teddy Roosevelt was the youngest president, but he wasn't the youngest one elected.
[00:22:00]  Kennedy was the youngest one elected at 43.
[00:22:03]  And, you know, he was shaking up this establishment, which was largely run by older men who had been there since World War I, you know, and they were really kind of looking at this guy and saying, You know, he's a playboy, he's got a lot of money, and he's been in the Senate.

=== CIA Psychological Profile of Kennedy (04:06) ===

[00:22:21]  This guy's very interested.
[00:22:22]  You know, he has a great following, he's very interested in freedom, but he thinks he can run the world.
[00:22:28]  But we're the ones who do that, and we're going to have to get him up to speed.
[00:22:31]  And interestingly enough, I found in a book, this is fascinating because it relates directly to the book is called The Armies of Ignorance.
[00:22:43]  And interestingly enough, it's written by William Corson, who we've traced to Gigi Young's.
[00:22:50]  Background, family history.
[00:22:51]  So Gigi just keeps showing up, of course, in the very heart of the X series.
[00:22:56]  But interestingly enough, one of the things that he lets us know is that the CIA developed a psychological profile on Kennedy.
[00:23:04]  And this is a crucial thing because what they figured they could do is that with that profile, there's the cover of the book, too.
[00:23:13]  So everyone knows that's William Corson's book, The Rise of the American Intelligence Empire.
[00:23:18]  Absolutely crucial reading.
[00:23:19]  And this is a guy who worked closely with the CIA.
[00:23:24]  Had been in the military for years and really resisted them in the 60s and 70s.
[00:23:28]  And also, the work of Victor Marchetti, I would also recommend for this, The Cult of Intelligence, which is an excellent book.
[00:23:36]  But anyway, in this book, he talks about that psychological profile that the CIA had for Kennedy.
[00:23:40]  And what they figured that they could do is appeal to his kind of intellectual idealism and also kind of like a pinch of arrogance on the intellectual side.
[00:23:53]  So the whole thing with the Bay of Pigs, which is so, you know, Such a crucial early piece with the CIA and Kennedy, and that everyone just focuses there.
[00:24:04]  Well, we're going to take that out and really enlarge it in this episode.
[00:24:08]  But one of the things about the Bay of Pigs, which was the failed invasion of Cuba, was that the CIA had convinced him that military advisors had worked on this and it was a perfect plan, and they kept people away from him.
[00:24:23]  And in fact, the plan was there when he was inaugurated, but he hadn't actually put any of the pieces together.
[00:24:30]  So it was already scheduled to happen.
[00:24:32]  There in that March or April.
[00:24:35]  And when it actually went down, of course, they tried to fake out JFK into a full scale invasion of Cuba.
[00:24:41]  And he realized that they had been tricking him all along.
[00:24:45]  And he removed Alan Dulles as a result of this.
[00:24:48]  But Dulles had been in the power station, he'd been in the power spot for over two decades.
[00:24:55]  And he actually created the CIA with Truman.
[00:24:58]  So this was a really big thing to do.
[00:25:04]  And it set up this battle between the CIA and Kennedy.
[00:25:07]  Now, what's fascinating is we understand the battle with Cuba and the tensions over Cuba in one fashion.
[00:25:13]  Before the set of three episodes is over, we're going to understand it in a very, very different fashion.
[00:25:19]  And Ernest Hemingway is going to play a very significant role in that.
[00:25:22]  So, what I'm going to do in the first half of this episode is really lay out the things that we know about the assassination and the intelligence aspect of it.
[00:25:30]  But the Hemingway part is going to be the real breakthrough.
[00:25:35]  In this episode, in next week, and a week from Saturday.
[00:25:38]  Okay.
[00:25:38]  I just wanted to throw it in.
[00:25:40]  Carol Crumlish says, Bill Corson was my cousin by marriage.
[00:25:44]  He was totally brilliant and a good friend of JFK.
[00:25:47]  Oh, yes.
[00:25:48]  Well, that's fascinating.
[00:25:49]  Carol, I had no idea you had those types of connections.
[00:25:52]  Please do email me at info at darkjournalist and discuss Bill Corson because he is a very significant player here.
[00:25:59]  And I'm sure Gigi Young is going to be interested in this too because she's related to him.
[00:26:06]  But everybody, yes, it's going to be one of those nights.
[00:26:09]  We have tremendous people in the house.
[00:26:11]  It's a huge crowd tonight.
[00:26:13]  And, you know, there's this smell of apples in here because Olivia brought in this apple crisp that she cooked up.
[00:26:20]  And that thing is dominating the post Thanksgiving scene here, no doubt about it.
[00:26:25]  That thing's incredible.

=== Covert Government Takeover (10:22) ===

[00:26:27]  You've got to mark it.
[00:26:28]  It's the best.
[00:26:29]  Unbelievable.
[00:26:30]  I could win awards.
[00:26:33]  I'm sure, I'm sure people would.
[00:26:36]  You know, well, you can't give away your secret ingredients, I suppose.
[00:26:39]  No, but if we ever have a conference, I will make tremendous batches so everyone can have a little bit.
[00:26:46]  That's quite a commitment.
[00:26:48]  Of course, everyone's going to come near and far for that.
[00:26:50]  Yes.
[00:26:51]  This is extraordinary stuff.
[00:26:54]  And it seems to me like everybody had a good Thanksgiving buzz going on this year.
[00:26:59]  There's good vibes this year.
[00:27:01]  There's no question about it.
[00:27:04]  I didn't notice that usual kind of stressed out thing, although it plunged to what, like, 12 degrees here in Cambridge, and now it's kind of back to normal.
[00:27:14]  It's like 45 again, which it should be.
[00:27:17]  Of course, we had some very, very interesting things in relation to Hemingway and the JFK library that we're also going to get to as well.
[00:27:25]  But let's start off with this.
[00:27:28]  This is the proclamation that Trump gave in relation to why the JFK records wouldn't be released.
[00:27:35]  And I just want to give a little bit of hint of this.
[00:27:38]  Subject Certification.
[00:27:39]  This is from Trump.
[00:27:41]  Certification for certain records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
[00:27:46]  Okay.
[00:27:47]  Trump says As I explained in my temporary certification on October 26, 2017, that was the day that we did the special and we live streamed it.
[00:27:57]  The American people expect their government to provide as much access as possible to the President John F. Kennedy assassination records so that they may, as they deserve, finally be fully informed about all aspects of this pivotal event.
[00:28:11]  Absolutely.
[00:28:12]  Over the last 180 days, executive departments and agencies have reviewed all the information within records temporarily withheld from release and have proposed to the archivists of the United States that certain information should continue to be redacted.
[00:28:30]  Because of identifiable national security, law enforcement, and foreign affairs concerns.
[00:28:35]  The archivist has reviewed the information agencies proposed to withhold and believes the proposals are consistent with the standard of Section 5G2D of the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992.
[00:28:49]  In fact, they are not.
[00:28:51]  So whoever told the president this has completely misinformed him.
[00:28:56]  I do want to say this that the records.
[00:28:59]  were mandated by Congress in 1992 as a result of the JFK Oliver Stone movie.
[00:29:05]  They developed the Assassination Record Review Board, which was a civilian group that would oversee what records would be released.
[00:29:12]  And then they said within 25 years, all these agencies have to give all of those records up.
[00:29:17]  Well, instead, we get the runaround here.
[00:29:20]  And they've given Trump the runaround.
[00:29:22]  And now he has to go on board and come out with a statement, unfortunately.
[00:29:27]  Now, Trump says, I agree with the archivist's recommendations that the continued withholdings are necessary to protect Against identifiable harm to national security, law enforcement, foreign affairs that is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest and immediate disclosure.
[00:29:43]  So that's a big mistake because, in fact, President Trump could gain tremendous support by outing the CIA on this in relation to their role in the Kennedy assassination.
[00:29:55]  Unfortunately, this sounds like Obama could have written it.
[00:29:59]  So it's one of those, you know, the CIA is right type documents.
[00:30:04]  There's no way that national security, law enforcement, or foreign affairs could be jeopardized by revealing the fact that a group inside of the national security state organized the assassination of President Kennedy.
[00:30:16]  It would be a shock to the system.
[00:30:18]  It would be embarrassing, but it would be a much better outcome because the truth is the only way when it comes to this.
[00:30:26]  And who are we protecting anyway?
[00:30:27]  The agency?
[00:30:28]  I mean, the agency is so powerful that, if anything, the agency needs to be pulled back.
[00:30:35]  So it's unfortunate that Trump went along with this.
[00:30:38]  He does say here, though, that they will release all the records on October 26, full public disclosure, no later than October 26, 2021.
[00:30:50]  That's pretty close to the LBJ library saying that they're going to let out the LBJX letter on 2023.
[00:30:59]  So some of these people, maybe they're starting to coordinate this timeline, but in any case, they're still standing up against the records.
[00:31:07]  Now, what I find interesting about all of this is that Trump is in kind of a mortal battle with his intelligence services.
[00:31:18]  And it seems to me that the best way to get them, you know, kind of on the defensive would be to out their past so that we have a better hearing in the public about this.
[00:31:33]  This is absolutely crucial because, in large part, the CIA is running the country and using the military contractors like Lockheed Martin, which Catherine Fitz refers to as the United States of Lockheed.
[00:31:46]  You know, these groups are largely running the country and the political process is suffering.
[00:31:51]  As this public disclosure around these things.
[00:31:53]  The more the documents come out, the less powerful the CIA is, and the more we understand about an incident involving the assassination of a president here that was duly elected by American citizens 55 years ago.
[00:32:08]  I mean, if you can't get the truth on that, you're not going to get the truth on anything because, you know, if after 55 years they can't own up to that, you have to wonder what they're hiding now, and it's not looking good.
[00:32:19]  And it's not in President Trump's interest, in my opinion.
[00:32:23]  To go along, to get along.
[00:32:25]  Let's put it to you that way.
[00:32:26]  But let's read a little something in relation to this, because Frank Church was a very courageous senator who started the Church Committee in the 70s to reel in the CIA and the NSA.
[00:32:37]  And he brought forward so much information that really blunted them in their tracks and opened up a number of things.
[00:32:44]  Of course, a decade later, they shut all that information down.
[00:32:47]  And the history books try to make us forget a lot about Frank Church and the work he did.
[00:32:52]  But in Professor Scott's brilliant American Deep State book, He opens with a quote from Senator Frank Church.
[00:33:01]  I'm going to read it to you here.
[00:33:04]  Quote I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America.
[00:33:11]  We must see to it that this agency, the National Security Agency, the CIA, and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss.
[00:33:28]  That is the abyss from which there is no return.
[00:33:32]  Now, remember, Church had seen the declassified files.
[00:33:38]  He understood the nature of these programs and how unconstitutional they were.
[00:33:43]  This is 40 years ago.
[00:33:45]  So, the situation that we're in now with the heightened technology, the post 9 11, you know, kind of savaging of our freedoms, the post Snowden revelations of them.
[00:33:59]  Gathering all the data from every call around the world into Bluffdale, Utah for future use.
[00:34:05]  These are the things that we're talking about here.
[00:34:07]  They go right to the very aspect, the core aspect of a republic and a democracy that is under siege by small groups with large scale technology.
[00:34:20]  And it becomes a major political issue.
[00:34:23]  And we have a number of symptoms as a result of that, like the immigration crisis, like the war powers, and the different things that we've seen, the aggressions throughout the world.
[00:34:34]  And the kind of Bilderberg Davos crowd influence.
[00:34:39]  So, we're in a very kind of interesting situation here that we have to need to get a handle on it.
[00:34:43]  And one of the ways we can do that is by apprehending here on this 55th anniversary of the JFK assassination exactly what transpired there that allowed the covert side of the government to take over the overt side of the government with the help of the mainstream media.
[00:34:59]  Because 55 years later, we've got the same problem.
[00:35:02]  And, you know, we've seen in the case of Trump, regardless of if you like his politics or not.
[00:35:08]  The CIA has tried the same types of things to eliminate him with a story about Russian collusion, which they didn't produce any evidence for.
[00:35:17]  So we see the same factors at work here that were at work against JFK, maybe not for exactly the same reasons, but certainly for the core reason of wanting to control the executive branch, wanting to control the policies, and whenever they feel they have a character in there.
[00:35:36]  And I have to say, since JFK, I don't think they've had one like Trump.
[00:35:40]  I mean, I I think this is a real wild card in their deck.
[00:35:43]  But they've had some resistance from people.
[00:35:46]  They helped throw Nixon out.
[00:35:49]  They helped get rid of Jimmy Carter with the October surprise.
[00:35:52]  But by and large, the person I think who really has given them a hard time here is Trump.
[00:35:58]  So it's very current.
[00:36:01]  And I want to really stress this that although we're looking deep at history here, it comes right up to exactly the fact that the CIA has blocked the JFK records and that the Trump administration has gone along with it.
[00:36:16]  Now, I want to read some core documents here that are there at the JFK Library.
[00:36:22]  And they relate to a number of unusual, quite fascinating moves that JFK was making before.
[00:36:31]  This is JFK, just.
[00:36:33]  This is actually only a minute and a half before his assassination.
[00:36:38]  Now, JFK was in Texas, and previously he'd given a speech there in. 1962, about how we were going to go to the moon.

=== UFO Cooperation and Bomb Threats (14:51) ===

[00:36:49]  And what he had done instead of making it into a space race is he had negotiated behind the scenes with the Soviets to do a joint space mission, which means we had to share our space technology with them.
[00:37:01]  And there were a number of people who resisted this as an idea.
[00:37:05]  The National Security Action Memorandum number 271 that Kennedy signed was for the administrator of NASA, James Webb.
[00:37:16]  You might have heard about this Webb telescope out there now that's looking for planets and stuff.
[00:37:20]  That's the same Webb.
[00:37:22]  And what it says simply is cooperation with the USSR on outer space matters.
[00:37:27]  Now, this is quite interesting.
[00:37:31]  This is Kennedy's quote directly to Webb I'd like you to assume personally the initiative and central responsibility within the government for the development of a program of substantive cooperation with the Soviet Union in the field of outer space, including the development of specific technical proposals.
[00:37:50]  I assume that you'll work closely with the Department of State and other agencies as appropriate.
[00:37:56]  Now, this is a pretty big breakthrough because what he's saying is we're going to share information with them related to the moon launch and that they're going to have a technology sharing thing and that we're going to use it as a way to develop peace and end the Cold War.
[00:38:12]  Now, the military and the deep state and the groups and the guys like Alan Dulles, who had been controlling the situation.
[00:38:22]  Became the biggest obstacles for Kennedy.
[00:38:25]  And of course, Kennedy fired Dulles after the Bay of Pigs.
[00:38:29]  And he said, There's a great quote about how he did it, which he said, If this was England, I'd have to go, but this is America and you have to go.
[00:38:38]  Because he had given him fake information, basically, about the strength of the Cubans.
[00:38:43]  And he had kind of dogged him to get in there and start World War III.
[00:38:47]  But the trick is, and it's quite a significant trick, which is Alan Dulles and his brother Foster Dulles had run American policy, foreign policy.
[00:38:58]  Literally since World War II, the beginning.
[00:39:00]  So they'd already been in there for two decades.
[00:39:03]  And Dulles was a Wall Street lawyer, Alan Dulles, and John Foster was the Secretary of State under Truman and under Eisenhower.
[00:39:14]  So, quite significant in terms of the power players that they were, and getting rid of them was a very bold thing to do, but it caused that ultimate breach.
[00:39:27]  I think from that moment, they really started to say, now we're going to get rid of this guy.
[00:39:32]  Now, Foster Dulles died previous to this, but Alan Dulles was the major power player.
[00:39:40]  Strangely enough, when Kennedy died, they put Alan Dulles in charge of the Warren Commission to find out really to lock down all the intelligence leads so that we wouldn't find out that Oswald was associated with intelligence, which anyone who's looked into the case can tell you is a fact.
[00:39:53]  So the Central Intelligence Agency had a lot, a lot of things to hide.
[00:39:58]  Now, a couple more things from this memo.
[00:40:04]  Dated November 12, 1963, at the JFK Library.
[00:40:09]  It's just sitting there.
[00:40:10]  There's no question about the document's authenticity, et cetera.
[00:40:13]  Next, these proposals should be developed with a view to their possible discussion with the Soviet Union as a direct outcome of my September 20th proposal for broader cooperation between the United States and the USSR in outer space, including cooperation in lunar landing programs.
[00:40:31]  Read the Moon Program.
[00:40:34]  So, putting a man on the moon with the Russians, basically.
[00:40:38]  That's where he was going.
[00:40:39]  All proposals or suggestions originating within the government relating to this general subject will be referred to you for your consideration and evaluation.
[00:40:48]  Now, he goes on further and says, Talk to the Secretary of State.
[00:40:51]  He's going to give you more info on this.
[00:40:53]  This is 10 days before the assassination.
[00:40:56]  This next document is particularly important.
[00:40:59]  It's been cited 3,000 times in various news articles.
[00:41:03]  It came out as the result of the Freedom of Information Request Act.
[00:41:07]  The CIA has never disputed the document.
[00:41:12]  But every once in a while, you hear people say, since it mentions UFOs, that it's not a valid document.
[00:41:17]  In fact, it is valid, and over 3,000 news agencies have claimed it to be so.
[00:41:22]  It's based on the same day, and it's a top secret memo for the director of the Central Intelligence Agency.
[00:41:31]  Now, the subject is classification review of all UFO intelligence files affecting national security.
[00:41:37]  Now, he's going right to the heart of the UFO file, which you have to understand.
[00:41:42]  Contains the X technology.
[00:41:43]  So it's at the very heart of the X steganography that we cover on this show.
[00:41:48]  When Kennedy goes for this 10 days before his assassination, this is kind of the final straw because he's already had incredible power struggles with the Central Intelligence Agency representing the deep state.
[00:42:01]  He's already gone to bat on the civil rights issue.
[00:42:04]  He's gone to bat on a number of things, including giving the Federal Reserve a run for their money by printing our own silver backed money.
[00:42:13]  So he really is a A character and a transformational figure.
[00:42:17]  We have to understand him deeply than as just the guy who went to Berlin and made a speech and, you know, the young hunky president who had a zany sense of humor and a lovely wife and all that stuff.
[00:42:30]  We get on PBS and all these specials about Kennedy.
[00:42:33]  Kennedy is the smartest president we ever had, bar none.
[00:42:37]  He was the most well educated.
[00:42:39]  He came from the most politically connected family.
[00:42:44]  He certainly understood after 14 years in Congress how the government worked.
[00:42:50]  And he was dedicated to freedom.
[00:42:52]  I mean, you know, his heroes were people like Thomas Jefferson.
[00:42:56]  So, when we look at Kennedy, we're getting a very different type of president than, say, Eisenhower, who was largely, you know, towed the line from the military and had won World War II.
[00:43:09]  And even he had tremendous problems.
[00:43:11]  And when he came forward and spoke to Kennedy, he gave him that heads up that these guys have control of the UFO file now.
[00:43:18]  So, let's read what he has to say here to the CIA director As I had discussed with you previously, I've initiated and have instructed James Webb, the head of NASA.
[00:43:29]  To develop a program with the Soviet Union in joint space and lunar exploration.
[00:43:36]  It would be very helpful if you'd have the high threat cases reviewed with the purpose of identifications of bona fide as opposed to classified CIA and Air Force sources.
[00:43:48]  What he's saying here the UFO file and the off world case is the genuine craft that we can't identify.
[00:43:56]  I want you to give me the high threat ones, those that are over nuclear facilities.
[00:44:02]  Those that outrun our planes and all the rest of it.
[00:44:04]  I want to understand and share those files.
[00:44:07]  And he's saying, I need you to separate them from your own stuff.
[00:44:11]  In other words, the breakaway technology, the stuff that you guys are working on and flying in the skies.
[00:44:20]  Now, interestingly enough, of course, we found out about things like the U 2 and all that and the stealth technology eventually.
[00:44:27]  And he's referring to a lot of that.
[00:44:28]  However, the things that people were seeing in the 40s and 50s, these craft, We've never determined that any of them were part of an American defense project because, oddly enough, they've been kept in such a clandestine fashion.
[00:44:43]  There's no way for us to know.
[00:44:45]  So, the truth is, those craft that were kind of drove the whole thing around the UFO file and what we understand about UFOs in the public imagination have never been, you know, you'd think after like 40 years, if we had developed the saucers in the 50s, you know, after 50, 60 years, we'd know what they were, just like we know about stealth technology and how we know about the other technology.
[00:45:05]  So, either they're kept in such a secret underground Fashion or the genuinely off world craft that have nothing to do with our defense programs, only in as much as you know until we get our hands on them and try to kind of redevelop them.
[00:45:22]  So let's finish Kennedy's memo to a CIA director about UFOs.
[00:45:26]  Yes, there is a memo out there.
[00:45:28]  Yes, it is authenticated.
[00:45:30]  Yes, it is November 12th, the same day as the other menu, as the other memo.
[00:45:36]  It's important that.
[00:45:39]  We make a clear distinction between the knowns and unknowns in the event the Russians try to mistake our extended cooperation as a cover for intelligence gathering of their defense and space program.
[00:45:52]  In other words, if we can give them what we don't understand about the UFO file, if we can say these are the different types of crafts, then they might cooperate with us more as opposed to thinking we're flying over their stuff and inspecting the nuclear facilities.
[00:46:06]  When this data has been sorted out, I would like to arrange a program of data sharing with NASA where unknowns are a factor.
[00:46:14]  This is a very important.
[00:46:17]  This is saying we need to now share the UFO file information with NASA.
[00:46:22]  Straight up.
[00:46:23]  NASA is technically a civilian agency, not a military agency, so they wouldn't get that understanding.
[00:46:28]  This is where the X steganography comes in because you can have NASA following the UFO part without even knowing that they're following it if you just name the programs X.
[00:46:36]  So we're going to go deeper into this, but anyway, quote, this will help NASA mission directors in their defensive responsibilities.
[00:46:48]  Now, NASA mission directors have no defense responsibilities.
[00:46:55]  So it's a very unusual line.
[00:46:59]  Now, what it relates to is the fact that NASA was used to observe and to track the UFO file and the crafts associated with it.
[00:47:10]  I'd like an interim report on the data review no later than February 1st, 1964.
[00:47:16]  And that's President Kennedy's signature on 1112.
[00:47:19]  1963.
[00:47:20]  There's a lot of stuff still blacked out on that document, but we do get the thrust of it.
[00:47:27]  At the same time, one of the biggest problems that JFK had was actually the Rockefellers, who were giving him a tremendous hard time challenging his business practices and all the rest of it.
[00:47:39]  So, what he had a habit of doing was having Nelson Rockefeller, who had become governor of New York, come into his office and really dressing him down for all the things that his brother David was doing.
[00:47:52]  And some of these pictures I've always found quite fascinating because it looked to me that's Kennedy really giving it to them hard about this kind of corporate control of America that they're building.
[00:48:04]  So we start to put these factors together.
[00:48:06]  The CIA is looking at this and saying, okay, he wants us to share the UFO file one with the Soviets, which they don't want to do, two with NASA.
[00:48:15]  And remember, NASA still has a little bit of wiggle room, they're still not quite completely military and they're not completely under the grip of the CIA.
[00:48:24]  So because they're fairly neutral.
[00:48:26]  If they get information about the UFO file, then it's the CIA giving up the control over the UFO file.
[00:48:33]  Now, I've pointed out in the X series that we're not only talking about technology in the UFO file, we're talking about an effect that's created by this X technology, which sometimes we get in UFO cases directly when they say there's time distortion when people have missing time or when a number of things happen that cause machinery to malfunction.
[00:48:57]  This is the runaway physics that's associated.
[00:48:59]  I've given the term a Apotheum, too, just because it seems to me to be the best word to match the scenario.
[00:49:08]  The apotheum is something that is fundamentally impossible to control.
[00:49:16]  And this is where the mystery school side of it gets into when we look back through history.
[00:49:23]  The thing that they're using the X for is that at a point in ancient history, this technology was active again, relating to the Apotheum effect and this whole thing about the UFO file and the way that they safeguard that security, it's like a rediscovery of this kind of wild physics that when it meets and greets our physics here in the regular world, it distorts everything.
[00:49:47]  It's kind of like an upside down world at that point.
[00:49:50]  So when we get into that, we start to understand why the secrecy exists.
[00:49:55]  It's not just, you know, one thing that Robert Sarbacher pointed out for us is that.
[00:50:02]  Physicist Robert Sarbarka, who was removed basically largely from history for pointing this out.
[00:50:09]  But that what he was trying to say really is that the UFO file, the redevelopment program around the UFO file was large scale, but that they did not have the complete control over the results.
[00:50:22]  I think that this is quite crucial.
[00:50:25]  And the apothecary effect that they're safeguarding inside of that UFO file, the X factor, the X technology.
[00:50:35]  Robert Sarbacher said that the UFO file was classified far above the atomic bomb.
[00:50:41]  So, you have to think about the atomic bomb, especially in 1950, when he originally said that.
[00:50:49]  The kind of classification that it would have would be extraordinary because you have there these nuclear powers, the ability to do Hiroshima and all that.
[00:50:58]  If you have something classified above the atomic bomb, you have to wonder just what the factor is that's involved.
[00:51:06]  But if you distort physics, then you'd actually defeat the very fabric of reality.
[00:51:11]  So, you have a reality distortion field.
[00:51:13]  And that's highly dangerous, especially if they can't control it.
[00:51:17]  So, a lot of the secrecy comes out of that apotheum effect, a lot of the echoes in the mystery schools of this event that happened a long time ago, where this was unleashed and causing the destruction of a former advanced civilization.
[00:51:29]  We have to keep these things in mind as we go forward in the X show here.
[00:51:35]  And so, now I'm going to get into how we kind of arrived at this point of secrecy.

=== Secrecy and the Patsy Oswald (09:52) ===

[00:51:41]  But before I do, I'm checking in with Miss Olivia.
[00:51:45]  And how are we doing over there?
[00:51:47]  Doing great.
[00:51:47]  Do you want a couple questions?
[00:51:48]  Yeah, it's a huge crowd tonight, and I see everybody is really pumping the questions out.
[00:51:53]  I should have said at the very beginning to ask the questions in caps.
[00:51:56]  Ah, they're used to it by now.
[00:51:58]  No, there's so many new people all the time.
[00:52:00]  Ask the questions in caps, and don't make comments in caps because we won't be able to separate what's what.
[00:52:06]  That's so self defeating.
[00:52:08]  You're watching the Dark Journalist program, and in the second part of the program, we're going to take all of your questions relating to this.
[00:52:15]  We're discussing the 55th anniversary of the JFK assassination.
[00:52:19]  I recently went to the JFK Library Museum looking into the Ernest Hemingway aspect, and there's a large Ernest Hemingway exhibit included with the Kennedy Museum, and it's quite fascinating.
[00:52:38]  I've done some really remarkable research, and things have really come to the surface as a result of that.
[00:52:45]  You know, there's a lot of really fantastic researchers.
[00:52:48]  As I mentioned, Gigi Young is going to be here with us next week.
[00:52:51]  And I also want to mention Kate Schneider, who came with me and did some remarkable research herself at the JFK library.
[00:52:59]  So a lot of this is a result of us getting in there and really spending some time with it.
[00:53:05]  And I think you're going to be quite fascinated with the results by the time we get to the outcome, which we're going to do over the next three episodes here.
[00:53:13]  So I think that kind of covers it.
[00:53:14]  Okay, yes.
[00:53:15]  Okay, so Jim Roy the Heretic says Nixon and JFK were friends before 1960.
[00:53:20]  Was it because JFK was read into the 1950s Nixon run X program through JFK friend MJ12 Forrestal?
[00:53:30]  Well, JFK had his own, yes, he did.
[00:53:33]  He had Forrestal on his side.
[00:53:35]  I have some pictures of Forrestal here.
[00:53:39]  This is actually JFK visiting Forrestal's grave as president, which I think is very, very telling.
[00:53:45]  And taking that time out to, you know, when you're president, to visit a former Secretary of State's grave.
[00:53:53]  Forrestal is a fellow Catholic.
[00:53:55]  He was the first defense secretary, and it was under Truman.
[00:54:00]  He's the first defense secretary of the country, period, because they didn't even have the Pentagon before that.
[00:54:05]  We have to remember just how World War II changed everything, it changed the whole mentality.
[00:54:09]  And Forrestal was read into the MJ 12 program, and from what we've been able to ascertain, Forrestal didn't like the idea or became disturbed at the idea of us not disclosing that to the wider public.
[00:54:24]  So he became the odd man out, and little by little, they kind of Fundamentally, it drove him crazy or made him look crazy, and finally threw him out of the window at Bethesda Naval Hospital.
[00:54:36]  It's a very unusual past and a very unusual background, and an interesting footnote also when looking at the Kennedy assassination.
[00:54:45]  It's like an early indication of what they're willing to do.
[00:54:48]  Now, I've talked about X Protect on this program, and the thing that they're protecting inside the UFO file is the X technology.
[00:54:56]  And the X Protect people, some borrowed from CIA, some borrowed from contracting agencies, will stop at nothing to maintain that secrecy.
[00:55:05]  And we've seen it over and over again when we come up to these witness lists and these large scale deaths.
[00:55:10]  Lists associated with things like the JFK assassination or subsequent investigations.
[00:55:17]  When you get close and around that technology, or when you get close and around these programs, the X Protect group, as we've seen, particularly on the UFO side, when someone gets close to that information, they can have their careers destroyed and their lives ruined.
[00:55:36]  There's another function that X Protect does, which is they are good at eliminating national security threats, what they consider national security threats.
[00:55:44]  Basically, though, those are just citizens looking into the UFO aspect.
[00:55:47]  So there's a problem there.
[00:55:49]  We have to understand X Protect in relation to the JFK assassination because it's a crucial linchpin event in history.
[00:55:59]  And I think the way that it's been doled out over time by the media saying, well, maybe some Cubans were involved, it doesn't work that way.
[00:56:08]  We have incredible security forces and it had to be worked on the inside.
[00:56:14]  And so when we look at the reasons and the people who studied it, People like Garrison, for example, then we get to the heart of it.
[00:56:24]  Where did he find it?
[00:56:24]  He found the aerospace companies were involved.
[00:56:28]  Well, why would the aerospace companies want to remove Kennedy?
[00:56:31]  Well, we've just read his memo here telling the CIA to share that technology and to share the UFO reports.
[00:56:39]  For them, this is anathema.
[00:56:42]  And they're used to keeping those secrets.
[00:56:45]  That's what they do.
[00:56:46]  So we think about JFK.
[00:56:51]  And seen here with the astronauts at NASA, you know, he took a major role.
[00:56:58]  He is the man who stepped forward and said, by the end of the decade, we're going to have a man on the moon.
[00:57:03]  So he is the key figure in NASA.
[00:57:06]  He is fueling this entire enterprise.
[00:57:09]  But they've been working in the background that is, the deep state people and the CIA and the groups that came out of Paperclip who are, you know, they come out of this fascist international.
[00:57:23]  They're working for the American government.
[00:57:24]  And we've seen a lot of reports, and people have done some good work on this over time.
[00:57:31]  But I think understanding that paperclip influence when we look at the Kennedy assassination is crucial because it's not brought in enough.
[00:57:39]  So basically, if you're at NASA and you're a Walter Dornberger and you're working on X technology, and you realize this guy is coming in here, he's going to share information with the Russians, he wants to share information publicly, he wants to get the UFO file.
[00:57:54]  On the fast track, so that these nations don't have a nuclear skirmish over this stuff, you're looking at him as public enemy number one.
[00:58:01]  And as a matter of fact, when assassination details come out, and we hear little things in records and we hear things related to how people were thinking about it, they thought that they were eliminating a national security threat.
[00:58:17]  I mean, it's a kind of a convenient thought for them to have because it gives them carte blanche to do anything they want.
[00:58:22]  But this nexus that operated inside.
[00:58:27]  Of the aerospace agencies like Boeing and Lockheed working in lockstep with the CIA, which had been thrown out under Kennedy, people like Dulles.
[00:58:39]  That forms a kind of a deep state nexus where the covert aspect makes these plans.
[00:58:44]  They've been in control of the government now for over two or three decades.
[00:58:49]  It's easy for them to assemble and cause this assassination to take place and then instantly work with those top pieces of the media, those top players.
[00:58:59]  And cover the whole thing up and roll out, you know, hapless Oswald, who was the CIA patsy.
[00:59:07]  And I did a documentary called Agent Oswald, the CIA patsy, that shows exactly how they put him into that situation.
[00:59:14]  And, you know, I'll put the link in the description when we're done with the episode.
[00:59:17]  Remind me, Miss Olivia.
[00:59:19]  And what else have you got over there?
[00:59:21]  Okay, well, I'm just dying to ask this one because I know you're not going to get to it tonight.
[00:59:25]  Okay, Marilyn Monroe.
[00:59:27]  What do you think?
[00:59:28]  Wow.
[00:59:29]  Okay, what do you think JFK told her to get her whacked?
[00:59:33]  Listen, there's an actual FBI document, and this comes out of the work of Ken Thomas.
[00:59:41]  And that FBI agent said that part of the pillow talk that JFK had with Marilyn related to the UFO file, and particularly to crash retrieval programs where they'd redeveloped the technology.
[00:59:54]  And he talked about off world visitors.
[00:59:57]  So there were these things where she said that she was going to cause a press conference.
[01:00:03]  And she was really losing it.
[01:00:05]  And there were all these calls recorded to the White House, 28 unanswered calls.
[01:00:09]  So she was looking to be this kind of regular contact, regular mistress of JFK, but he realized it was too dangerous and he got out of there.
[01:00:20]  So no one knows what that was going to be all about.
[01:00:23]  What's fascinating for me, and people don't often point this out, is that Marilyn Monroe and Dorothy Kilgallen were really close friends.
[01:00:29]  And Dorothy Kilgallen is the first person, she was on What's My Line.
[01:00:32]  She was a popular kind of socialite journalist of the period.
[01:00:36]  She wrote for the New York Times.
[01:00:40]  And she died under very mysterious circumstances.
[01:00:43]  Yeah.
[01:00:44]  As a matter of fact, there was a guy who put forward some information recently to the Manhattan DA to reopen that entire case from 1966.
[01:00:52]  But what I think is important is that she's the first one who talked about the crash retrieval programs and alluded to it in her columns.
[01:00:59]  And it's very interesting because it may very well have been that she was getting that information from Maryland, which JFK was just kind of, you know, bragging about.
[01:01:09]  So it's always interesting.
[01:01:11]  When you get into that level of intimacy, that level of interaction, wow, unbelievable.
[01:01:18]  Yes.
[01:01:18]  Since we mentioned Oswald there, for years, people said about Oswald, oh, he was a disgruntled loner and all the rest of it.
[01:01:28]  And we know anyone who takes a deep look at the case, we have to understand that Oswald was just set up as a patsy.

=== Junk Conspiracy Against Truth (15:51) ===

[01:01:34]  And the whole thing about him and the gun and all that is just malarkey because they actually found a totally different gun that wasn't related to Oswald.
[01:01:43]  And they found that.
[01:01:44]  Through the sheriff's deputy Roger Craig.
[01:01:46]  He was the first one in the building and he found a totally different rifle, a type of rifle.
[01:01:55]  So, the one that they attributed to Oswald, which by the way was never bought under Oswald's name, it was bought by someone named A.J. Heidel, who they claimed that Oswald was using a fake name.
[01:02:08]  But the Mauser rifle that they found just disappeared from the reports.
[01:02:16]  Craig had found it with another.
[01:02:18]  Deputy and the deputy had a sporting goods store, and they both saw Mauser printed on the barrel of the rifle.
[01:02:24]  So, those are the guys who were the first ones who got a look at it.
[01:02:28]  That's what they said it was.
[01:02:29]  Later, when they found out that Oswald had a Manlicher Kirkano rifle, which is one of the worst rifles on the planet, none of the story makes sense when you break it down.
[01:02:40]  That's what I did in Agent Oswald.
[01:02:43]  But the fact is this that since they had the media to go along with it, even 70% of the public doesn't agree with it.
[01:02:50]  But because the media went along with it, it became the official story.
[01:02:54]  Now, what have I said here before about dark journalism?
[01:02:56]  Dark journalism.
[01:02:58]  Posits that there are three types of information that are available in any deep event, like the JFK assassination or 9 11 or any of them.
[01:03:06]  And it is the official story, which is often in place to protect the institutions.
[01:03:11]  There's the counter story, which is put forward by professors, researchers, dark journalists like me.
[01:03:19]  And those things usually get into the real details and they point out the flaws in the official story.
[01:03:23]  And the media calls them the conspiracy theory.
[01:03:27]  But the third level is particularly significant, and the third level is junk conspiracy.
[01:03:32]  The junk conspiracy is often funded or used by the people who put out the official story to make the second story of looking into it look foolish.
[01:03:42]  And that's where you get things, you know, whereas you have a real secret space program, for example, and you look at those details and you get key people like Joseph Farrell and Catherine Fitz looking at those details and trailing those finances back.
[01:03:54]  And then you get, you know, galactic ambassadors and guys who are claiming they're going to Mars every week.
[01:04:00]  And that gets attention and they wrap the name around secret space programs.
[01:04:03]  So if you do a Google search because of the keywords, You'll get all the crazy guys, right?
[01:04:08]  That's the way you keep an important story down by using the junk conspiracy.
[01:04:14]  And we're flooded in junk conspiracy from Flat Earth to Dancing Galactic Ambassadors and Wars.
[01:04:21]  But the principle is always the same official story, counter story, called the conspiracy theory, and then the third story to try to drive the public back to the first story.
[01:04:32]  Because if they look at a story like, you know, the Secret Service agent killed JFK, Or the driver did it or something.
[01:04:38]  People just look at it and say, Oh, it's so crazy.
[01:04:40]  I'm going back to that normal story about the weird guy with an old gun who supposedly pulled off this amazing magic bullet shot.
[01:04:48]  But let's take a couple of things here.
[01:04:50]  The official story about Oswald is that he, you know, Jim Garrison, who brought forward Oswald's connections to the intelligence agency, said he was connected with David Ferry, who Jim Garrison had charged or had questioned in relation to the JFK assassination and was going to bring to trial.
[01:05:08]  Before he strangely wound up dead, suicided out of the blue.
[01:05:13]  And all of those people, like Gerald Posner, who protected the official story, they just roll these guys out on these news stories and they never say anything.
[01:05:20]  They're all CIA back.
[01:05:22]  And they would always come out and say, Oswald didn't know David Ferry and couldn't have because of this and that and this and that.
[01:05:29]  So, this picture that came out of Ferry, who was a CIA pilot and organizer for intelligence, and created the same unit that.
[01:05:41]  Barry Seale came out of when he was running cocaine for the Contras.
[01:05:46]  That's a picture of Ferry here.
[01:05:50]  Even the critics agree now that that's Ferry.
[01:05:53]  And this is Oswald here.
[01:05:55]  That's Oswald at 15 years old, right in the Civil Air Patrol.
[01:06:02]  And I have another picture of Oswald that I'm going to show later.
[01:06:05]  But we have to understand that Oswald is created like a legend.
[01:06:10]  They have a thing in intelligence circles called legend, where you have different people show up and do different things.
[01:06:16]  And before they leave, they say, by the way, my name is Lee Oswald, and they storm off.
[01:06:21]  And so, you have a number of people do that and build a foundation over time.
[01:06:25]  So, when you go to use this person as the patsy, or as Professor Scott calls the designated culprit, he's been well, his legend has been put in place very well by a number of different people.
[01:06:37]  So, then you just have this guy show up and you say, You're going to be working on something very important.
[01:06:42]  Make sure you stay in that second floor of that building and wait for a call.
[01:06:45]  You're going to be having coffee or whatever.
[01:06:47]  And this is a very important thing.
[01:06:51]  The assassination takes place, and this guy who's they've moved around like a chess piece on a board, you know, he's sitting there, and the cops wonder, hey, where's this guy?
[01:07:01]  You know, he was an employee in the building, and he takes off, and they grab him, and you know, he figures, well, I'm going to go to trial, I'll somehow figure this out, and you know, they get Jack Ruby to kill him.
[01:07:14]  So it's interesting the way that they just eliminate the patsy in this case.
[01:07:18]  They went to extraordinary lengths.
[01:07:21]  And took extraordinary risks to come out on top of this.
[01:07:23]  So, the crucial thing for them was that they needed to come out.
[01:07:26]  So, what do we do now understanding this story and saying 55 years later, well, Kennedy was assassinated by these intelligence groups and they used people like Oswald as a patsy, and now we have significant evidence for it.
[01:07:40]  But the CIA, in the meantime, is still blocking records.
[01:07:44]  So, you know, we're in a kind of a quandary.
[01:07:47]  It's a schizophrenic situation where people understand the nature of what the CIA did in relation to this.
[01:07:53]  And they understand they've been fed a phony story, and we understand it on this program because of all the research we've done in relation to it.
[01:08:00]  But yet, that remains the official story.
[01:08:03]  And if you were in high school right now and you were asked a question about history and you said, Well, who killed President Kennedy?
[01:08:10]  Was it the CIA, the mafia, or Lee Harvey Oswald?
[01:08:13]  Well, if you don't check Lee Harvey Oswald, you're going to fail the question.
[01:08:16]  So, this is the nature of just the control of the narrative.
[01:08:21]  But in this case, a narrative that just has no support and no substance.
[01:08:27]  One of the other things I want to point out in relation to the CIA and the people that they use to do these things is that the mind control programs that are operative, you know, we were talking last week with Joseph Farrell about Sirhan Sirhan, who killed another Kennedy for the same reasons, who was heading toward the presidency, and who understands a lot of the foibles of the CIA removing his brother.
[01:08:52]  There was this fascinating movie that came out that we were talking about, which is The Manchurian Candidate, where whenever he sees the Queen of Diamonds, He goes into this catatonic state and they give him instructions.
[01:09:03]  This is the deep, deep hypnosis that the CIA was noted for and that these deep state groups are so good at.
[01:09:09]  And I've seen, you know, this pattern runs all the way through the 40s, all the way up to, you know, all the recent shootings.
[01:09:15]  I mean, the Batman shooter is a fantastic Manchurian candidate on these.
[01:09:22]  And what happens is, what's particularly interesting is that Joseph Farrell, in our episode and in his recent book, Suggested something called a Manchurian patsy, who's not only set up as a scapegoat, but he won't remember what he's done.
[01:09:40]  I think that's very important.
[01:09:41]  And we have to start to understand how that type of mental process works and how those types of capabilities were developed through experimentation.
[01:09:52]  And a lot of the experimentation for doing this started with the Nazis.
[01:09:56]  And that we got so much of the Nazi experimentation and mind control from that program of taking the Nazis into our intelligence apparatus.
[01:10:04]  The question is, how much did it corrupt the process from the very beginning, and how much reform do we need for the intelligence agencies?
[01:10:11]  We can't get around the question.
[01:10:13]  And now the CIA is more powerful than ever, influencing our dialogue, influencing the media, influencing programs like Homeland, for example.
[01:10:24]  So it's a significant issue.
[01:10:26]  A lot of people might be surprised to know that the CIA has their own Air Force, for example.
[01:10:33]  And John Brennan, who was one of the key Obama CIA directors, he was known as the Drone King because he just offhandedly decided to go drone these terrorists that he would find over there.
[01:10:47]  I think that tremendous powers, all this needs to be reviewed.
[01:10:50]  And if we can look back on it, if we can kind of grasp the JFK information and what he was trying to do and what he was trying to accomplish and why the intelligence agencies made it their job to remove him and how the media went along with that, we got a fake history that when we have the histories now, you know, the media will say it's 55 years later and people still can't accept that it was Lee Oswald with an old gun, you know, and incredible shooting abilities, even though he hadn't shot in a year and a half.
[01:11:18]  You know, It's a schizophrenic situation where we understand the truth, anyone who's looked into it deeply, and so here we are.
[01:11:26]  And so we've arrived at the middle of the schizophrenia, the very heart of it.
[01:11:29]  And that's what the deep state is really good at.
[01:11:32]  So the way we can unravel that, especially over time, is that so many of the facts have fallen apart on the narrative.
[01:11:40]  And so getting to a real disclosure around this is possible.
[01:11:45]  And the records are significant in that regard, especially the Garrison records, which are in court right now.
[01:11:53]  There's a guy named Jefferson Morley who is suing for records.
[01:12:00]  Now, Jefferson Morley, I just want to point this out real briefly Jefferson Morley is a Washington Post reporter who quit the Washington Post because he had found information related to somebody who had created the Oswald Project for the CIA.
[01:12:14]  The guy's name was George Juanides, and no one knew who he was.
[01:12:19]  Interestingly enough, he was kind of the James Bond.
[01:12:24]  Type.
[01:12:27]  Not as slick as all that, but certainly operating in the same position.
[01:12:31]  And Joe Annides is quite fascinating because what happened was Morley basically tracked some records and found him operating in Miami during the period of Lee Harvey Oswald and found him operating in New Orleans.
[01:12:46]  And later he became the liaison for the CIA on the JFK records part.
[01:12:52]  This is a very significant picture I'm going to show here.
[01:12:55]  Of George Genides here, receiving a lifetime achievement award from the deputy CIA director Bobby Inman.
[01:13:04]  Now, Bobby Inman is quite significant because he's the only CIA official who's ever gone on the records suggesting that we have used redeveloped off world technology in crash retrieval programs and use that technology to make craft with it.
[01:13:23]  This combination of things, and we see the CIA around the UFO issue in the Tom DeLong case and the TTSA.
[01:13:29]  When they roll out Luis Elizondo and they try to make him the hero of the whole thing, he's a counterintel.
[01:13:34]  He's one of these guys.
[01:13:35]  He's a counterintel agent.
[01:13:37]  And the idea is that they're going to control the UFO file by using these quasi CIA officials who have counterintelligence credentials, which means, quite frankly, they're good at lying.
[01:13:51]  So when we get into that situation, the key thing, what's so important about alternative media and independent media, it has a voice to be able to do this.
[01:13:59]  It has to, with a single voice, reject.
[01:14:02]  The CIA takeover of the UFO file.
[01:14:05]  It's just, you know, it's simple.
[01:14:06]  When the CIA shows up, especially if they identify themselves as CIA, it needs to be resisted.
[01:14:12]  And if it's not, if you see people going along with it, and we see kind of a lot of the old guard around the UFO issue going along with this and being like, hey, Elizondo is great.
[01:14:20]  He's going to give us a secret, like, UFO threat information.
[01:14:25]  There's so many bizarre holes in the story of Elizondo that, you know, any kind of real journalistic effort would just completely expose him.
[01:14:35]  So when you see groups like MUFON and stuff getting behind it, they're not.
[01:14:39]  Working in the public interest, I guess I'd put it that way.
[01:14:42]  So let's talk a little bit about Janides here in Inman and why this picture is so important.
[01:14:48]  Janides created the Oswald Project, and then when he took over as the liaison some 15 years later for the CIA with the public about Congress getting information from the CIA relating to the JFK assassination, it's quite interesting because the mandate from Congress was you cannot have been active as an agent during that period.
[01:15:14]  And you can't have anything to do with the major players.
[01:15:16]  Well, I'd call Oswald a pretty major player.
[01:15:18]  So, if this guy created the Oswald project, then he's a pretty significant player.
[01:15:23]  So, they already violated their own rules there.
[01:15:25]  That's one.
[01:15:26]  Two, his records now aren't even in the Trump release records that are still being blocked by the CIA.
[01:15:34]  They're a totally separate group of records because no one knew this guy existed.
[01:15:39]  So, Jefferson Morley right now is suing this guy.
[01:15:44]  Peter Dell Scott has joined that suit.
[01:15:47]  At various times in the past, also because they're recurring suits.
[01:15:52]  Trying to get the records of Janides, who nobody knew existed, but apparently ran the entire Oswald project.
[01:16:00]  And this very uncomfortable kind of scene of him with Bobby Inman, who controlled, came out with this kind of quasi CIA disclosure a la TTSA.
[01:16:10]  He's kind of the CIA version of this in the 90s.
[01:16:13]  Quite remarkable, quite remarkable combination.
[01:16:16]  We're going to go deeper into Joe Anides, but I wanted to mention him here because.
[01:16:21]  It's significant for us to know that as much as we're looking at the records that the CIA has, there are things that the CIA has done and covered their tracks so well with that we need to, in relation to the Kennedy assassination, in order to clear the history, we need a new investigation of the CIA role in that assassination.
[01:16:42]  So, getting the records is one thing, but actually, the congressional investigation of the CIA's role in the JFK assassination is crucial.
[01:16:50]  And you can't really get Things back to normal without that.
[01:16:54]  Yes, it's 55 years later, and yes, people have heard a number of theories and all the rest of it, but I think anyone with a prosecutorial eye on history could certainly do this.
[01:17:06]  Most of the main players are dead, of course, but I think it would be absolutely significant.
[01:17:12]  And so we're going to go a little deeper on that before I do, Miss Olivia Europe.
[01:17:16]  Okay, George Ivankovich wants to know what does DJ think about George Bush Sr.'s involvement in JFK's assassination?

=== Bush Family and CIA Ties (12:47) ===

[01:17:26]  And Planet Lupa wants to know: don't the Bushes connect to the Nazis?
[01:17:32]  Yes, and yes.
[01:17:36]  Well, this is very interesting because the Bushes are cited by J. Edgar Hoover in relation to CIA agents that he's working with.
[01:17:48]  And he actually refers to George Bush.
[01:17:51]  And I've tracked this down with Jim Mars, actually.
[01:17:53]  And I did an interview with Jim Mars, the late Jim Mars, the late great Jim Mars.
[01:17:57]  On the JFK assassination, which really goes deep into this.
[01:18:01]  And I highly recommend that interview, which is on this channel.
[01:18:04]  One of the things I would say about Bush's involvement is this.
[01:18:09]  Bush had an oil company called Zapata, and there is a book by Russ Baker called Family of Secrets that tracks this crisscross quite well of the Bushes around the JFK assassination.
[01:18:22]  But suffice to say, two key things.
[01:18:24]  One, Zapata was the codename for the Bay of Pigs operation, the invasion of Cuba under the Kennedy administration, taken on by the CIA and kiboshed by.
[01:18:36]  Kennedy, eventually.
[01:18:41]  Zapata was also the name of Bush's oil company.
[01:18:44]  Bush was in Texas during that period of the assassination and he worked in the oil business.
[01:18:51]  There's another person who was close friends with him who worked in the oil business named George DeMarnchill.
[01:18:56]  And DeMarnchill was an oil geologist and he was the overseer, he was the handler of Lee Harvey Oswald.
[01:19:07]  Went over there and gave them presents and hung out with their family and took them out to dinner.
[01:19:11]  He just oversaw them for a number of years.
[01:19:14]  He was brought before the Warren Commission.
[01:19:16]  Later, he started to unravel because he didn't like the fact that Oswald was killed and was portrayed as this thing.
[01:19:24]  Something happened with him there.
[01:19:26]  He wrote a letter, which became public, to the CIA director at the time, which was George H.W. Bush, who became future president.
[01:19:36]  You know, me and my wife are in this situation ever since I went to write about Oswald.
[01:19:42]  Apparently, it made a lot of people angry, and I'm surrounded by these murky groups, and they're tracking me.
[01:19:48]  Can you do anything to help me?
[01:19:49]  Basically, it's my last letter to you to help this.
[01:19:52]  And then the House Assassinations Committee went ahead and subpoenaed George DeMarinshield trying to find out about his role and what he knew about Oswald and his association with the CIA.
[01:20:04]  And he was found suicided again.
[01:20:07]  You know, these guys using these strange rifles to blow their brains out.
[01:20:13]  So, this is how you eliminate the whole witness elimination programs that go on whenever you're investigating the JFK assassination.
[01:20:21]  Every time an investigation comes up, these people get bumped off.
[01:20:25]  And that was true in the Garrison situation as well.
[01:20:28]  So, there's no question that there's some extra dimension on the Bush side relating to, I mean, think about it.
[01:20:37]  We were getting a certain type of dynasty, I guess you could say, with the Kennedys.
[01:20:40]  And it was going to be John, Robert, and.
[01:20:46]  Teddy.
[01:20:47]  And instead, what we got was the assassination of both those brothers, and Teddy got Chappaquiddick, and we got, you know, G.H.W. Bush, G.W. Bush, who, you know, destroyed so much of our reputation with the Iraq War.
[01:21:04]  And they tried to get Jeb Bush, right?
[01:21:06]  He was the other piece of it.
[01:21:07]  Thank God he failed against Trump.
[01:21:09]  So that's the dynasty that was organized, and the deep, deep ties that.
[01:21:16]  The Bush family has to the CIA.
[01:21:19]  Of course, Bush was a CIA director, so that's obvious.
[01:21:24]  But the other thing is, Prescott Bush, his dad, had some very interesting allegiances too.
[01:21:28]  And there's a certain point, if you study the history, where Alan Dulles, who we've pointed out here as the CIA director that Kennedy fired, Alan Dulles and Prescott Bush, who was the father of George H.W. Bush, both were in a bank, Union Bank, that was seized by American authorities for doing business with Nazis.
[01:21:49]  And at the time, Prescott Bush was the head of the USO, which is one of the reasons that Mars gave me for why they didn't prosecute him.
[01:21:56]  But there's no question that the whole trading with the enemy aspect of the Bushes and their deep, deep connection to that German money, I think, is so crucial.
[01:22:07]  So that's a very dangerous family, it has been for the American political scene.
[01:22:12]  That's a great question, actually.
[01:22:14]  All right, I'll take one more.
[01:22:16]  All right, let's get this out of the way.
[01:22:18]  Breach123 wants to know Did Jim Mars find the Grassy Knoll shooter in the prison interview of James Files?
[01:22:26]  Oh, interesting.
[01:22:27]  No, I think he just thought Files was another guy with a story, actually.
[01:22:31]  And it's interesting that people go to James Files because we've always wanted the person, you know, to talk to the person who actually was involved in this shooting.
[01:22:44]  And I understand that, but there's nothing in file, there's a number of people around the JFK thing where, you know, they might have been around the scene in that period.
[01:22:56]  And I'll tell you what's remarkable when we get to the actual assassination, thinking about Dealey Plaza at the time.
[01:23:02]  If you look at who was there in Dealey Plaza and some of the arrests that were made, it's quite significant.
[01:23:07]  One of the ones that Jim pointed out to me originally was Michael Mertz, who was a French hitman.
[01:23:14]  He just happened to be kind of wandering around there in Dealey Plaza.
[01:23:17]  It's almost like the amount of people that were just there in that one little square gives you an idea that everybody knew something major was going to go down.
[01:23:24]  So, who's Michael Mertz?
[01:23:26]  Well, it's quite interesting.
[01:23:28]  Michael Mertz was this assassin who had been.
[01:23:34]  Paid to kill de Gaulle and they were trying to prosecute him for that.
[01:23:39]  And he was in Dallas on that day.
[01:23:41]  He was in Dallas.
[01:23:42]  He was in Dilley Plaza and they caught him just sort of hanging around.
[01:23:45]  He said, Oh, I was just using the phone.
[01:23:48]  And it's so great because in a conversation I had off the record with Jim Mars about him, he gave me all these details about Mertz and who had a number of names and was associated with this de Gaulle assassination attempt.
[01:24:00]  We have to remember that the Central Intelligence Agency tried to remove de Gaulle in France and that de Gaulle survived that coup attempt.
[01:24:08]  But he understood that it was, you know, the United States Central Intelligence had tried to team up with elements there in order to get him out because he was a real crusader as well.
[01:24:20]  But so I had this whole back and forth with Jim Mars about it.
[01:24:23]  And he had all these details, et cetera.
[01:24:25]  And when I did the interview with Mars, you know, we'd gone through so many subjects.
[01:24:28]  And when I got to Michael Mertz, he was like, Yeah, there were a lot of suspicious people in Dilly Plaza.
[01:24:32]  I was like, Oh, no, give us the details.
[01:24:35]  But he, I'd really worked him over.
[01:24:38]  So we never got it on the record.
[01:24:39]  So whatever happened to Michael Mertz?
[01:24:42]  He got deported back to France.
[01:24:44]  Well, I mean, it's very hard to track a guy like that, but quite significant.
[01:24:48]  While we're in the French connection for a second, Top Shelf Grower wanted to know do you put any stock in the Marseille assassins theory with the exploding bullets?
[01:24:58]  Yeah, I should.
[01:25:01]  In the Men Who Killed Kennedy series, which was a series of nine episodes by director Nigel Turner, where he took a lot of heat, a lot of political heat for bringing these facts out.
[01:25:14]  One of the people that he brought out was an assassin named Lucien Sarti, who they had learned through this kind of heroin connection that the assassins that were hired to eliminate President Kennedy were hired out of that milieu.
[01:25:30]  And the story about Sarti was backed up actually by E. Howard Hunt, who said that the French assassin was the shooter, the main shooter who did the headshot.
[01:25:41]  So there's no question that.
[01:25:44]  What's also interesting is the KGB, when they did their own investigation, they tracked it to that drug network too.
[01:25:50]  So, those were the best assassins, the hardest assassins to track.
[01:25:54]  And I think that looking at that into the history is quite significant.
[01:25:59]  What's important for us, beyond who the players were, is what did the assassination accomplish some 55 years now?
[01:26:09]  It completely transformed the media's role, which became just to protect the institution's role.
[01:26:14]  It completely consolidated an invisible government's control over the policy of the United States.
[01:26:21]  And it took.
[01:26:24]  You know, it took this deep state control, which had operated side by side with the public state control, the regular things that we're used to, law and order, government, elections, and all the rest of it, and it just turned that system upside down.
[01:26:39]  And we've seen a series of what Professor Scott calls deep events since then, and we have the same type of pattern happen over and over again.
[01:26:47]  So, when we're looking just at the pure assassination part, there's a number of things where we understand we haven't been given the real truth on the matter.
[01:26:58]  That President Kennedy was pressing forward to release information relating to the UFO file and that he was looking to share that information and cooperate with the Russians in space.
[01:27:09]  Those things are on the record now.
[01:27:11]  Now, one thing I want to point out that we've done is by bringing forward the revelations of former Watergate lawyer Douglas Caddy about his close friendship with E. Howard Hunt, which is just on the record and undeniable.
[01:27:28]  Caddy might be the most significant figure.
[01:27:31]  In understanding the UFO file motivation for the assassination of President Kennedy, because his close friendship with Hunt ended up with them in that conversation where Caddy is saying, before Hunt goes to prison for Watergate crimes, and remember that Caddy's the first legal representative for the Watergate burglars.
[01:27:53]  It's on the record.
[01:27:55]  He's not somebody we have to guess about, he's not one of these people out there.
[01:27:59]  He has a very engaging track record over five decades.
[01:28:04]  And his close relationship with the Hunt family, you know, just ask St. John Hunt, E. Howard Hunt's son.
[01:28:10]  So, in essence, what he did was he asked Hunt who was responsible.
[01:28:17]  Why was Kennedy eliminated?
[01:28:20]  Why did they assassinate him?
[01:28:21]  And Hunt said, President Kennedy was assassinated because he was about to give away our most vital national security secret to the Russians.
[01:28:30]  And Caddy asked him what was the secret he was going to give.
[01:28:35]  And Hunt sent the UFO file, you know, basically this alien presence.
[01:28:41]  So, that from a true inside CIA person on the record to his friend, not for public dissemination, just talking to his friend before he went to prison, is remarkable.
[01:28:58]  And I think it gives us that inclination that the group that we've called Majestic over these years that controls the UFO file and this oversees this apothecary.
[01:29:08]  Aspect that's inside of it gives us an idea that, you know, this is where the power base is in the government.
[01:29:16]  And that if we don't get a handle on that, we won't understand the deep state events that have taken place over time.
[01:29:23]  That's crucial, I think.
[01:29:25]  And so, Caddy has given us something quite remarkable, I think, on the story there.
[01:29:31]  When we look at that in relation to the memo that we've read off with Kennedy giving that information to the CIA saying, you need to share.
[01:29:40]  The UFO file, then the picture becomes a lot more clear.
[01:29:44]  And we need to bring that forward because we're looking at the CIA now trying to co opt the UFO file and talking about the aerospace threat program and how they need money to combat that.
[01:29:56]  And you have people like the Drone King coming forward and saying, yeah, I think we should study the UFO thing.
[01:30:01]  So these are the same people who have eliminated leaders who wanted to be open about this.
[01:30:08]  It's the worst possible place for the UFO file to be under the umbrella of.

=== Hemingway and Orphic Mysticism (15:39) ===

[01:30:14]  Yes.
[01:30:15]  We haven't even hit on Hemingway yet.
[01:30:17]  No, no, that's part of it.
[01:30:18]  This is the three episodes that we're doing.
[01:30:20]  This is the arc of it, which is I'm laying out the 55th anniversary of the JFK assassination where we are at now.
[01:30:29]  Next, here in this episode, we're going to open up the Hemingway aspect and we're going to follow it up dramatically next Friday and next Saturday.
[01:30:38]  So, but that's a good place for us to stop and say you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
[01:30:44]  And Olivia, of course, is knocking the questions out of the park as usual.
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[01:31:11]  We're on part 36 of the X series, and this is the JFK assassination special and the connection with Ernest Hemingway.
[01:31:21]  And.
[01:31:22]  You know, I think one of the things when we look at Ernest Hemingway that's quite remarkable is he's undeniably a Nobel Prize winning author, and his stories have so much of his own humanity in them.
[01:31:38]  That is, this is not somebody who was really a backbencher and just a daydreamer.
[01:31:45]  He lived so many of the stories that he went out there and wrote about, and some of the deep classics of American history and literature.
[01:31:54]  Like the sun also rises, to have and to have not.
[01:31:58]  I mean, so many things that he brought to us for whom the bell tolls give us that sense that this is an extraordinary person.
[01:32:07]  Well, I'm going to tell you some things about him which are going to make him seem even more extraordinary because he was a remarkable individual and he had remarkable connections to another remarkable individual, which is President Kennedy.
[01:32:20]  And we're going to see how all this comes together and comes about.
[01:32:24]  Another thing I want to include is that.
[01:32:27]  You know, on this program, through the work that I've done studying the mystery schools, we get a lot into ancient Atlantis and the ancient advanced culture.
[01:32:35]  And we do it very often through the figure of Edgar Cayce.
[01:32:39]  Well, Edgar Cayce takes a role in this story as well.
[01:32:43]  So, you know, we're going to dive directly into that at this point.
[01:32:48]  But what's going to happen eventually is that we're going to place the JFK presidency, Ernest Hemingway, the work of Edgar Cayce.
[01:33:00]  Atlantis and Cuba all together.
[01:33:05]  Remember the mystery schools on one hand, the deep state, and the political process on the other.
[01:33:11]  These things form the heart of the X series and what we need to study.
[01:33:16]  And this is exactly where we're going next.
[01:33:19]  But before we do it, Miss Olivia, okay, go ahead and give me that.
[01:33:23]  I just wanted to ask you how did you first find out that there was a link between Hemingway and JFK?
[01:33:29]  Because I'd never heard of one.
[01:33:30]  Yeah, it's.
[01:33:31]  Quite fascinating, actually.
[01:33:34]  And this is why it's going to be so crucial to have Gigi Young on the show next Friday.
[01:33:39]  Because while I was aware of some unusual factors about Hemingway being in Bimini and of Hemingway's connection to Edgar Cayce, the JFK aspect was something that came out of the blue when I was working on material with Gigi Young.
[01:33:57]  And Gigi Young told me that the, you know, Gigi Young being a sensitive that we brought in to work.
[01:34:05]  And really give me some insight on the mystery school aspects of the X series.
[01:34:10]  And you know, Gigi is just a great friend and ally to everything that we do here.
[01:34:16]  And I got to tell you guys in the audience, because you don't know this, when DJ and Gigi are rattling off back and forth, I mean, they go for hours with these like instant messages back and forth, and she's channeling information and he's responding.
[01:34:31]  I'm like, and I'm talking like six hour stiffs.
[01:34:33]  And it's wild.
[01:34:34]  That's inside stuff there.
[01:34:35]  I know, but it's so exciting.
[01:34:38]  I am.
[01:34:40]  You know, when you're getting that information through Gigi, Gigi's such a remarkable person.
[01:34:46]  I remember just coming across her work originally a few years ago and just thinking this was a remarkable person.
[01:34:53]  But now I've done some work with her.
[01:34:57]  Her abilities are exactly what we hear about in relation to the mystery schools and the people like Steiner and people like Casey who have those abilities to tune in and get information relating to a subject.
[01:35:10]  Her intuitive abilities are.
[01:35:12]  Just off the charts, exceptional.
[01:35:14]  And one of the things that she said when we were going back and forth on this particular issue was that she wanted me to know that she had gotten something about for whom the bell tolls.
[01:35:26]  And it was quite interesting, of course, that is the quote that Hemingway used, and it's for whom the bell tolls, don't question for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
[01:35:36]  And this is really, I think, Hemingway's most remarkable book.
[01:35:42]  What was interesting about that is it started to jog my memory about Hemingway and Casey.
[01:35:48]  And then what was odd is she and I happened to be talking about the JFK political aspect, and it just came together over a few weeks of studying this.
[01:36:00]  And by the time we got to the point of the JFK Library hosting an Ernest Hemingway exhibit and all the stories around that, and having seen that, It really opened the picture up dramatically.
[01:36:19]  This is the power of the X series, too, and this is what happens when you use the steganography.
[01:36:23]  It is like the Rosetta Stone because things open up that just weren't apparent before.
[01:36:28]  But let's figure out a few things here in relation to JFK and Ernest Hemingway.
[01:36:33]  One, there's a large scale exhibit inside of the JFK library relating to Ernest Hemingway.
[01:36:39]  Two, all of the papers that were obtained by Hemingway's widow from Cuba.
[01:36:48]  Went to the JFK Library through her friendship with Jacqueline Kennedy.
[01:36:55]  Let's take a look at a few of these interesting players around us.
[01:37:00]  Of course, nobody more interesting than Ernest Hemingway himself.
[01:37:07]  And in terms of the information we're going to cover, literally from here through the next two episodes, we're going to go deep into Hemingway and his connection to this because it is quite remarkable.
[01:37:22]  But this is Ernest Hemeneutha's Old Man in the Sea, became an incredible book.
[01:37:30]  This is somebody who, in his early life, had been a journalist and had opened up by traveling through Spain and through Paris to all these different artists like Cezanne and Gertrude Stein and all these different people.
[01:37:50]  And they had made this remarkable impact on him.
[01:37:55]  And I think he really got that up.
[01:37:57]  Close experience.
[01:37:59]  And one of the things, one of his famous quotes about that period when he went to Europe was that we were poor and we were happy.
[01:38:07]  How often do you hear that?
[01:38:09]  And I remember reading a very interesting quote from him where he was so poor that he was starving.
[01:38:18]  And he would walk into the museum and get these very unusual impressions from the paintings and the impressionist paintings that he was seeing.
[01:38:27]  And he would understand them on this deep level because he was in this slightly altered state.
[01:38:31]  There's a number of fascinating psychic quotes about Ernest Hemingway.
[01:38:37]  One of the most interesting I found is that Gertrude Stein, who had been mentored by William James, who started the Psychic Research Foundation, and also was a teacher at Harvard, and wrote the classic Varieties of Religious Experience, was a remarkable writer and teacher in her own right.
[01:39:03]  She became a very close confidant in Paris with Hemingway.
[01:39:07]  And she said over and over again, the conversations would come back to the fact that Hemingway wanted to know about fifth dimensional time and why the ancients were aware of this and we were not.
[01:39:23]  This was his obsession.
[01:39:26]  Now, differences in time, ancient civilizations, it's not the kind of thing that you would associate really with Ernest Hemingway.
[01:39:34]  Ernest Hemingway, after all, being the man's man, going to bullfights, a hard drinking man on the sea, writing, living this incredible, kind of edgy existence, really.
[01:39:52]  But then we start to understand that there are psychic aspects associated with Hemingway and his interests.
[01:39:58]  Now, one of the most fascinating things that I found, and that is available at the ARE Library, Is a reading for Hemingway that Edgar Cayce gave.
[01:40:11]  Now, interestingly enough, Edgar Cayce, who we know quite well in this program, was the most extraordinary psychic of the 20th century and really is somebody who moved that mystery school knowledge and information into the public eye over time and really was a remarkable, gifted psychic and who could also diagnose people at a distance.
[01:40:38]  Well, as it turned out, Hemingway's mother was quite curious about Hemingway because Hemingway's mother felt that she was psychic.
[01:40:50]  We start to get a little picture of who this family is, what's happening.
[01:40:55]  Well, she suggested the reading for her son because she was basically concerned about his future, and because after all, he could be a hard drinking man and he was prone to extremes.
[01:41:06]  And Casey went very much in detail.
[01:41:09]  With Ernest Hemingway.
[01:41:11]  And I've read the reading over a few times.
[01:41:16]  And fundamentally, it says that Hemingway himself was a mystic in Egyptian times, and that he carried those abilities over into this life, and that he could use them for good or for not so good.
[01:41:32]  But something about that incredible ability that he had translated over.
[01:41:39]  Now, Hemingway's mother, being aware of Casey, would be aware of his readings relating to Atlantis.
[01:41:49]  Casey's readings about Atlantis during this period suggested that Atlantis was actually rising from the seafloor and that there would be a point later where we'd be actually able to see parts of Atlantis by looking down at the seafloor.
[01:42:03]  That was rising.
[01:42:04]  That land would actually rise off of the east coast of America.
[01:42:09]  This is very significant for a number of reasons, but one of the key Places that he identified, as any Casey student will tell you, was Bimini.
[01:42:20]  Now, this is quite fascinating because Hemingway spent almost all of his time in Bimini and Key West and Cuba.
[01:42:30]  Now, what's fascinating to me is that the Casey connection around Hemingway starts to open up, on one hand, the interest that we'll find about Atlantis around Hemingway.
[01:42:45]  Including the fact that his brother founded something called New Atlantis off of Jamaica.
[01:42:51]  There was something in these circles about Atlantis in this period.
[01:42:56]  One of the things I want to point out, if you're somebody who watches the X series, is you understand that the Orphic Circle, which Emma Britton brought forward and gave us information about, which was a 19th century circle that included prime ministers of England and literary figures like Charles Dickens.
[01:43:15]  And Bulwer Lytton were always honeycombed with the literary people, the literary stars of the day.
[01:43:24]  Somehow that literary aspect got you into the door of those interesting Orphic Circle mystery meetings.
[01:43:33]  When I see someone as powerful as Ernest Hemingway going over there to Europe and becoming in those circles, like with Gertrude Stein, et cetera, I instantly start to think of the Orphic Circle and those relationships.
[01:43:49]  This was somebody who was a deep, deep seeker.
[01:43:51]  By the time we get around to the idea that his mother is getting a psychic reading from Edgar Cayce about his past lives, we're definitely going to have to look at his past, his history, in a totally different light.
[01:44:10]  We're going to have to see that Atlantis plays into it, which is maybe a large part of what he's doing in Bimini, the Keys, and Cuba.
[01:44:18]  We're going to have to see that his brother.
[01:44:21]  And he both had a fascination with developing a new Atlantis.
[01:44:24]  That is, if it was knowing it was going to rise, being part of that.
[01:44:29]  And we're going to have to take a look at things where people say that he constantly spent time looking for things underwater and that they felt he was looking for German U boats, which really doesn't make any sense at all.
[01:44:43]  We're going to have to take those types of pieces of information totally differently than we have in the past.
[01:44:51]  We're going to have to reassess the entire character.
[01:44:53]  Of Ernest Hemingway in history, as the incredible writer, of course, and as the incredible literary talent and presence and influence on America.
[01:45:07]  But now we're going to have to look at his association with something very crucial, which is the Atlantean aspect of the Casey readings.
[01:45:16]  How does that get us around to JFK?
[01:45:20]  Well, I've said before on this show that you'll find in the very heart of the geopolitical considerations of the deep state the essence of the mystery school activity.
[01:45:34]  And we, over the course of the next couple of episodes, are going to find exactly that.
[01:45:39]  And we're going to find Ernest Hemingway.
[01:45:41]  In the very heart of those discoveries.
[01:45:45]  Some of the information is quite remarkable, and as we're laying it out here, I think you're going to get a sense of how powerful this information is.

=== Mary Hemingway's Cuban Letter (14:45) ===

[01:45:53]  Of course, when we take a look at Hemingway starting out, that figure who'd been, after all, through World War I and who'd had an out of body experience where when a shell blew up, he left his body and came back and described this.
[01:46:16]  We're looking at somebody who had a kind of a mysticism built in.
[01:46:23]  And if you look at his Casey reading, you really get a hint for that.
[01:46:26]  But Hemingway himself, in his kind of day to day life, didn't reveal so, so much of this side.
[01:46:32]  However, it comes through loud and clear in his characters.
[01:46:38]  So, interestingly enough, on the JFK side, let me give a little bit of an outline here.
[01:46:45]  First of all, there's a series of letters between JFK and Hemingway.
[01:46:51]  And JFK, these letters are so unusual because JFK asks him questions about where certain quotes came from, etc.
[01:47:02]  And he asks him to contribute something to the inauguration.
[01:47:07]  But even before he's president, as a senator, he'll write him letters.
[01:47:13]  And JFK will also turn out to have been close to Gertrude Stein when he was in Europe.
[01:47:21]  Who was a close friend of Hemingway?
[01:47:24]  Starting to get a real interesting connections picture when we look at this.
[01:47:30]  But as it turned out, Ernest Hemingway had something they called a vault in Cuba.
[01:47:40]  In the vault, yes, Miss Olivia.
[01:47:42]  Is that anything like a time capsule?
[01:47:44]  It is indeed.
[01:47:45]  So it is, for our purposes, we can definitely call it the Hemingway capsule because that's what it turns out.
[01:47:53]  That it is.
[01:47:55]  In the vault, he keeps things that people don't know what he's keeping in there.
[01:48:01]  After all, he's Ernest Hemingway.
[01:48:03]  He has this incredible ranch there in Cuba, which they called Finca Vigia.
[01:48:14]  And interestingly enough, this ranch house that he had became quite a fascination during the Kennedy administration.
[01:48:25]  After Ernest Hemingway had committed suicide.
[01:48:30]  Now, when Ernest Hemingway, one thing we have to keep in mind about Hemingway is that the FBI and the CIA hounded him his entire life.
[01:48:39]  So he was somebody who was in their target zones, and we've never quite understood why.
[01:48:45]  And we haven't known exactly the nature of that surveillance.
[01:48:51]  There's a lot of records about surveillance, but they never say are they tracking him because they think he's a communist?
[01:48:57]  Are they tracking him because he's.
[01:48:59]  Associated with revolutionaries in Cuba?
[01:49:01]  What is it?
[01:49:01]  What is it about Hemingway that they're so obsessed with for years?
[01:49:07]  Well, this story, which I think is quite compelling, talks about this letter from Ernest Hemingway's widow that could solve the Cuban farmhouse mystery.
[01:49:23]  It's a great little picture of Mary Hemingway, who became a very important figure in Hemingway's life.
[01:49:32]  And when they were married, you know, they were inseparable.
[01:49:39]  After Hemingway dies, a strange thing happens, which is Mary Hemingway goes through channels to get to President Kennedy, who, after all, had his own back channels to talk to Hemingway, to talk about X.
[01:49:58]  And she says, Ernest, his capsule, this vault, is in Cuba.
[01:50:07]  We need to get it.
[01:50:11]  And Kennedy turns to his national security team, taking this suggestion very, very seriously.
[01:50:18]  Let's see if I have this picture of Mary Hemingway and Kennedy together.
[01:50:25]  Wow, how often, when I'm looking for a picture, do I actually find it?
[01:50:28]  This is kind of impressive.
[01:50:29]  What do you think of that?
[01:50:31]  Quite remarkable.
[01:50:32]  Wow.
[01:50:33]  Mary Hemingway.
[01:50:34]  Very cool.
[01:50:35]  What year is that?
[01:50:36]  This is in 1963.
[01:50:39]  After Ernest has committed suicide, here we have President Kennedy with Mary Hemingway, Hemingway's widow.
[01:50:51]  Mary Hemingway has come to him to get the capsule from Ernest Hemingway's ranch in Cuba, which, in the midst of all this revolutionary activity, has become out of her grasp.
[01:51:11]  And she's concerned about it.
[01:51:14]  Kennedy works with the national security team to send a group, to send a team into Cuba to obtain the capsule.
[01:51:28]  And then he decides through direct channels to provide her with a note.
[01:51:38]  He sends her into Cuba undercover.
[01:51:43]  She walks directly to the ranch, and Fidel Castro is there.
[01:51:51]  She hands Fidel Castro the note that neither she nor we know what it says, but it's a note directly from Kennedy to Castro.
[01:52:03]  Mary Hemingway is allowed to take the capsule that Ernest Hemingway left and leave Cuba, come back to America with it, all based on the power of this note.
[01:52:17]  That Kennedy did independently outside of his own CIA State Department.
[01:52:24]  The note, we don't know what it says, however, we do know that Mary Hemingway was smuggled back into America with the capsule on a shrimp boat.
[01:52:41]  That's basically one of those ops which you're really carrying something quite undercover.
[01:52:49]  Now, Subsequently, President Kennedy's assassinated.
[01:52:57]  Mary Hemingway gives the capsule to Jacqueline Kennedy.
[01:53:07]  Jacqueline Kennedy makes it a part of the JFK library that gets started.
[01:53:18]  Now, the material for what was really in the capsule and why Ernest Hemingway would be keeping secret material, after all, Hemingway's manuscripts, you know, you put them in a safe, you're all set.
[01:53:32]  What is this vault?
[01:53:34]  What is the capsule?
[01:53:37]  Well, we get a lot of insight on what that is.
[01:53:40]  Let's start with Ernest Hemingway's brother.
[01:53:43]  I'm gonna break in here.
[01:53:45]  Yes, everybody wants to know, they want to cut to the chase.
[01:53:48]  Okay, Deborah Gale asks, first of all, it's gonna take three episodes, trust me.
[01:53:53]  Okay, but they want to know this.
[01:53:55]  Um, okay, Deborah Gale says, Does DJ think that?
[01:53:58]  Hemingway really committed suicide, or was he suicided?
[01:54:02]  Can you just give him, throw him that bone?
[01:54:05]  Well, what's interesting, and I'll say this, which is his brother, who I'm just about to talk about here, felt that he was suicided and he felt that he had been removed.
[01:54:17]  And what's interesting about all this is that Hemingway himself felt, especially during the last year of his life, that they were closing in on him.
[01:54:30]  And he had become paranoid about this when, in fact, he had dealt with 30 years of scrutiny from the FBI and a couple of decades of scrutiny from the CIA.
[01:54:40]  But he really felt that they were closing in on him, and nobody quite understood why they would be closing in on you, and he never explained it.
[01:54:48]  However, if Hemingway and his escapades around Bimini, Cuba, and the Keys were all related to the work that Casey had brought forward about Atlantis Rising.
[01:55:02]  And that's where we get the Bimini Road.
[01:55:07]  We need to study this aspect really closely to get a handle on it.
[01:55:11]  Remember this there's no doubt that Hemingway got a reading from Edgar Cayce, it's on the record.
[01:55:23]  There's no doubt that he had a capsule in Cuba.
[01:55:27]  There's no doubt that Kennedy worked through a back channel directly with Castro to get that.
[01:55:36]  It's all on the record.
[01:55:39]  So we don't have to guess at that.
[01:55:42]  The curious thing is what's in the nature of the capsule?
[01:55:48]  What's in the nature of Ernest Hemingway's life in Bimini, which, after all, is where Casey said Atlantis was rising, and where the Hall of Records on this side of the hemisphere would be?
[01:56:06]  After all, we know about the Egyptian Hall of Records that the Atlanteans left under the right paw of the Sphinx, according to the readings.
[01:56:15]  What about the time capsule Hall of Records on this side?
[01:56:19]  Well, Casey said there were two other places, because remember, there are three places for the Hall of Records.
[01:56:25]  One, a temple in Yucatan, set up by Iltar and his followers, who was a leader in Atlantis.
[01:56:36]  Another sunken in a temple of Poseidonia off of Bimini that would rise and that would become a major breakthrough for us understanding there was a large scale lost advanced civilization under the waters off Bimini.
[01:56:52]  That's Casey doctrine.
[01:56:54]  That's hardcore Casey information.
[01:56:59]  To find Ernest Hemingway in the very heart of that is remarkable.
[01:57:06]  But furthermore, we get the most detailed information, not just about Bimini and the Bimini Road, which is a large scale structure under the water that they discovered in 1968 when Casey said they would, that's part of that temple of Poseidon arising.
[01:57:22]  There's another story with facts about a civilization discovered relics, pyramids, cities off Cuba by Paula Zelitsky and her husband.
[01:57:39]  Paula Zelitsky, being a Russian who was an engineer, oceanographer.
[01:57:50]  In fact, she had worked since the late 60s for the Russians.
[01:57:58]  Off Cuba, studying the ocean supposedly.
[01:58:02]  In 2001, Paula comes forward with large scale discovery.
[01:58:08]  Let's take a look at Paula and some of her discoveries.
[01:58:13]  I guess first let's look at Ernest Hemingway's brother Lester.
[01:58:19]  Ernest Hemingway's brother Lester founded New Atlantis.
[01:58:23]  Ernest Hemingway's brother Lester searched for ancient Atlantis.
[01:58:30]  He was featured in a special a couple of years before he committed suicide, going deep into Bimini to find a healing well.
[01:58:41]  The special itself is quite remarkable.
[01:58:44]  And the things that he says in relation to the Atlanteans is that the well that was created was created by this advanced civilization that existed in Atlantis.
[01:58:57]  This Atlantis psychic aspect of the Hemingways.
[01:59:02]  That's never really been brought to light in any major connection.
[01:59:07]  But the connection with Edgar Cayce, the connection with JFK, and the connection with the capsule in Cuba, and the fact that the Kennedy Library is hosting this Hemingway exhibit right now.
[01:59:25]  You know, it's interesting.
[01:59:26]  I was talking about Kate, who went with me to the Kennedy Library, and Kate Schneider, who's doing her own journalism, and we got together on this, and it's remarkable because we both had that feeling there, which is what is this doing here?
[01:59:51]  Why is Ernest Hemingway's work displayed in the Kennedy exhibit?
[01:59:58]  If we really think about it, I mean, James Joyce, there's so many.
[02:00:06]  Things that would go along with the Irish president, selection of literary people, sure.
[02:00:13]  One author, Ernest Hemingway.
[02:00:17]  Let's go a little deeper into why.
[02:00:19]  I mentioned Paula Zelitsky.
[02:00:22]  Paula Zelitsky, with her husband and a team, went deep off the coast of Cuba.
[02:00:31]  Of course, she'd been off the coast of Cuba now since 1968, working for the Russians.

=== Hemingway's Underwater U-Boat Search (02:57) ===

[02:00:38]  And their explorations.
[02:00:40]  Well, they obviously found something down there.
[02:00:42]  In 2001, she announced through the Cuban government that they had found cities, pyramids, roadways.
[02:00:52]  This is what Casey was referring to.
[02:00:56]  This is Paula, who is in Canada now.
[02:01:00]  She's a very active person.
[02:01:02]  I've reached out to Paula, and I hope to have her come forward.
[02:01:09]  She does have an autobiography out there, but she hasn't done anything actively since 2013.
[02:01:16]  And the story around the city off Cuba has also suffered a little bit of a blackout.
[02:01:26]  But I do feel that Paul's work is significant.
[02:01:30]  And when we take it together with what Ernest Hemingway was working on and his fascination with searching for U boats underwater, these things are starting to come together.
[02:01:47]  We're starting to understand the fundamental nature of this.
[02:01:52]  What Casey had seen as a large scale rising of Atlantis, the Temple of Poseidonia, and the Hall of Records off of Bimini, is related to what we've seen about the unusual circumstances of Ernest Hemingway living in Bimini, his brother living in Bimini, his brother founding the new Atlantis with a new constitution.
[02:02:22]  Hemingway's own readings with Edgar Cayce.
[02:02:27]  Who predicted this in the first place?
[02:02:29]  Edgar Cayce.
[02:02:30]  Hemingway's mother saying she's psychic.
[02:02:37]  The Cuban Missile Crisis.
[02:02:41]  Well, we understand the Cuban Missile Crisis from one political angle nuclear missiles being put in there.
[02:02:47]  Why the incredible hotspot over Cuba?
[02:02:50]  Really?
[02:02:52]  Let's think about it with different eyes.
[02:02:57]  If it had been determined that those ruins were there by the Soviets and they had gone in to kind of back that up to make sure nobody was going to get their hands on what they had found, it explains them playing their hand that heavily in that period of time.
[02:03:19]  It also explains a lot about them funding that revolution.
[02:03:23]  Sure, there's a kind of traditional communist story about.
[02:03:28]  These Latin leaders getting backed as a way for the Soviets to have a sphere of influence in this hemisphere.

=== Sonar Scans of the Pyramid Rock (05:55) ===

[02:03:36]  Absolutely.
[02:03:38]  But to bring the world to the brink of World War III?
[02:03:44]  Let's think about it a little bit deeper.
[02:03:47]  I do feel also in the family of the Hemingways, trust me, over the next two episodes and the rest of this one, we're going to touch on this.
[02:03:59]  Mariel and Margot Hemingway.
[02:04:02]  Also, have some very interesting things to say in relation to how they were kind of taught to think about Ernest Hemingway and his life, and in many ways to not ask too many questions.
[02:04:23]  Of course, Margot Hemingway died of suicide.
[02:04:27]  Was it actually on the date of Ernest Hemingway?
[02:04:29]  I think it was a couple days off.
[02:04:31]  Yeah, so.
[02:04:33]  I believe that's 1996.
[02:04:34]  Unfortunately, a very difficult life for both of them.
[02:04:37]  Very talented models and actresses, just remarkable people, and Muriel Hemingway on a very different, would you call that new age now?
[02:04:46]  Yeah, definitely.
[02:04:47]  Absolutely.
[02:04:48]  So she's got, you know, she's thinking about her health.
[02:04:52]  She's thinking about this whole kind of attitude adjustment.
[02:04:56]  She sees the world through positive eyes.
[02:04:59]  Let's take a look at a couple of things that might start to jog this picture together a little bit further around JFK.
[02:05:10]  This is something I took a picture of.
[02:05:13]  It's a piece of moon rock that was brought back to Earth by Apollo 15 mission.
[02:05:19]  The rock is called Breccia, it weighs 160 grams, it's more than 3 billion years old.
[02:05:26]  The astronaut James Irwin had it.
[02:05:29]  Take a look at this unusual stone inside a crystal pyramid inside the Kennedy Library.
[02:05:36]  That's really something.
[02:05:40]  There's a little bit of this metaphysical overhang that does not quite go with a political library.
[02:05:51]  Let's take a look at a little more.
[02:05:53]  The Kennedys engaged, as soon as he got in as president, in a program to preserve relics from ancient Egypt and to preserve temples, and they invested money they could have been very well criticized for doing.
[02:06:12]  This is one of the statues that resided in the White House, and they obtained it from Egypt.
[02:06:20]  It was found by the Great Pyramid, and it's an unknown figure, but the wig indicates that the person is of a very high rank.
[02:06:31]  There are special instructions designed by Jacqueline Kennedy for how to display this.
[02:06:40]  And with the slope of the angle he needs to be standing on, the type of enclosure.
[02:06:47]  She's incredibly hands on with this.
[02:06:48]  In other words, she understands whatever this is all about.
[02:06:51]  She's very, very deep on it.
[02:06:56]  Now, I think that we need to kind of orient ourselves to this new reality about looking at the Kennedy administration and Ernest Hemingway in this new light.
[02:07:08]  Let's look at what Zelitsky found.
[02:07:15]  When she came forward with her team and asked for more research because she had done these sonar scans.
[02:07:24]  This is the point of Cuba underneath the water that she had found it in.
[02:07:33]  This is the sonar scans that she did that are heightened for contrast and all the rest of it, but clearly we see pyramid type structures.
[02:07:44]  Now, this was clearly.
[02:07:46]  Predicted by Edgar Cayce, identifying the region as Poseidonia, where that was the most advanced portion of Atlantis before it went down.
[02:07:58]  Now, one of the things I want to point out is that this picture, I'm going to do another version of this picture, but basically you get the idea.
[02:08:08]  Here are the walls from the Bimini Wall that Cayce predicted would rise up again in 1968 and start to become visible.
[02:08:19]  In fact, they did.
[02:08:21]  The Vimini Wall was there, and this represents the Temple of Poseidonia, according to Casey.
[02:08:27]  Now, of course, Hemingway would have been aware of this, and he was probably spending all that time looking underwater for these ruins.
[02:08:37]  Let's take a look at a few more.
[02:08:41]  This is again more of that.
[02:08:47]  These are the temples under the water that Zelitsky identified, and further over here at a depth of 2,000 feet.
[02:08:57]  Now, that's hard to get at.
[02:08:59]  They were sending sonar.
[02:09:01]  Robots down to flash this stuff.
[02:09:04]  But the stories were carried even in mainstream journalism.
[02:09:11]  New York Times, Washington Post, National Geographic.
[02:09:15]  These were the things that were discovered.
[02:09:19]  Now, Paula Zelitsky is kind of really, everyone's very, very curious about her work.

=== Bermuda Triangle Cover Up (13:07) ===

[02:09:32]  But she's also in a tough spot because.
[02:09:36]  On one hand, she works for a Russian team.
[02:09:38]  On the other hand, the Cubans control the entire area.
[02:09:44]  So they control what she can come out with, also.
[02:09:48]  So it's not like she can rattle off because she wants to get down there and do this work.
[02:09:53]  So she said it wasn't an area that a scuba diver could go down to, it was something literally where they had to send a machine down and control it.
[02:10:01]  So again, this is Ernest Hemingway's home.
[02:10:08]  His compound there, his ranch in Cuba.
[02:10:13]  And this is where Mary Hemingway mounted those stairs to get the capsule from Castro carrying a note from President Kennedy.
[02:10:27]  You know, Kennedy is really in an incredible bind there with Cuba.
[02:10:35]  And remember, we've had the situation with the Bay of Pigs where the CIA tried to invade it.
[02:10:40]  And it's become such a hotbed, and eventually they'll put missiles in there and bring the world to the brink of World War III.
[02:10:46]  For Kennedy to be able to communicate directly with Castro about this and get that capsule back, something quite extraordinary had to take place.
[02:10:57]  It's very interesting to me that the CIA, in essence, removes President Kennedy because he's going to share the UFO file with the Russians.
[02:11:12]  Is the sharing Of information going to apply to the lost civilization that's found off the coast of Cuba?
[02:11:21]  And is this part of the dance that goes on there?
[02:11:24]  Did they reach that accord?
[02:11:27]  And is this part of why Kennedy is eliminated and Hemingway is hounded?
[02:11:36]  These things start to make a lot more sense when we see the pressures that are being applied.
[02:11:42]  What kind of a ripple would it have?
[02:11:44]  You know, people ask this very much about disclosure in relation to the UFO file.
[02:11:47]  What would happen if UFOs were announced openly?
[02:11:50]  Well, yes, it would be quite extraordinary.
[02:11:56]  But what if we discovered straight up an advanced civilization of our own that had nothing to do with an off world civilization but possessed incredible technology?
[02:12:05]  It would also do all the same upheavals of religions and all history, and it would throw all that junk out.
[02:12:13]  So it's also an incredibly hot subject.
[02:12:21]  And it's the kind of thing that would activate that X Protect mechanism.
[02:12:28]  So we're in a totally different territory now, considering these things, because we've got connected Hemingway, Casey, JFK, Hemingway's capsule, Mary Hemingway obtaining it from Castro, and Paula Zelitsky's find.
[02:12:50]  Of Cuba, which matches Hemingway's brother being in Bimini searching for Atlantis based on the Casey readings.
[02:12:59]  This is a whole different paradigm.
[02:13:05]  None of this information has been collected in this fashion before.
[02:13:11]  We have something to move forward in based on the ex-Deganography, which basically, in essence, led us to this.
[02:13:21]  So now we're in a totally different situation.
[02:13:23]  And over the course of the next two episodes, I'm going to present information that literally will change history.
[02:13:35]  And with that, Miss Olivia, I'm going to turn to your questions.
[02:13:39]  Okay.
[02:13:39]  So David Tormina says DJ, is this the real reason why Cuba remains a communist nation, opposed to the U.S.?
[02:13:49]  Is Cuba completely controlled by deep state X Protect?
[02:13:52]  To maintain secrecy of the truth about Atlantis.
[02:13:57]  Well, see, now it starts to make more sense.
[02:14:02]  It starts to make a lot more sense.
[02:14:04]  It sounds crazy.
[02:14:05]  I think, honestly, David, that you're onto something deep there.
[02:14:11]  What it is fundamentally, by the way, under Obama, what had been waiting for years and years happened, and there was very little fanfare, which is the United States opened an embassy in Cuba for the first time.
[02:14:25]  Since the Cold War and since the revolution in 1959.
[02:14:32]  Now, when that happened, we sent a number of diplomats down there and they all suffered extraordinary headaches, stomach upset, blood disease, concussions.
[02:14:46]  No one could figure it out.
[02:14:47]  If you look for their stories, they're all over the New York Times, they're all over the Washington Post, they're in the mainstream, they're in the alternative.
[02:14:56]  What was happening?
[02:14:57]  Why didn't they want the American diplomats there after all?
[02:15:01]  Now, you can think of a number of political reasons, but it's still quite an extraordinary thing.
[02:15:08]  Atlantis rising off the east coast of America with these temples intact, which remember Casey said held the Hall of Records, is an extraordinary, history changing, paradigm changing, world changing event.
[02:15:28]  And yet, it's in the Casey readings.
[02:15:30]  And here we see the Hemingways were deep, deep into this.
[02:15:37]  They were studying Atlantis.
[02:15:38]  Hemingway was studying psychic subjects.
[02:15:41]  Hemingway himself spent all this time in Cuba and the Keys and Bimini.
[02:15:50]  His brother lived in Bimini.
[02:15:57]  We have to start to kind of get.
[02:16:00]  Our heads wrapped around this totally differently.
[02:16:03]  Now, there are channels also that I'm going to reveal between JFK and Hemingway that are going to be astounding.
[02:16:10]  But let's keep rolling.
[02:16:12]  Okay, so old hat.
[02:16:15]  Why did the National Geographic renege on the investigation?
[02:16:20]  Well, are you talking about Paula Zelitsky's investigation?
[02:16:22]  Yeah.
[02:16:24]  Well, it's quite interesting.
[02:16:26]  It seems like she couldn't get any more permission to disclose things at a certain point.
[02:16:33]  And I also think that they were trying to shut her down.
[02:16:36]  What's interesting is, and this is quite remarkable in terms of tying the two together, I was reading through New York Times archive articles today about it.
[02:16:45]  And one of the archive articles states clearly that this could be Atlantis or it could be leftover equipment that the Soviets had there for the Cold War.
[02:16:57]  So we'll see.
[02:16:58]  It's like a wait and see thing.
[02:16:59]  I thought it was interesting they tied it into the Cuban Missile Crisis.
[02:17:04]  It seems to me that there was a cover up that took place there in 2001 relating to this, and that she would surface from time to time giving out the information that she could.
[02:17:15]  And when she finally published her biography there in 2013, And she's an excellent scientist.
[02:17:21]  And there's nothing, you know, I wouldn't say anything about Zelitsky's work.
[02:17:27]  It's not like she's hiding anything.
[02:17:28]  It's that she's working for people who allow her to say so much about the project she's working on for the Cuban government.
[02:17:37]  But if you look at her autobiography, you're going to find that since 1968, she'd been working in Cuba for the Russians studying the ocean.
[02:17:46]  Well, did they take one of their best people and say, We've got ruins down there.
[02:17:52]  Tell us about what's going on here.
[02:17:57]  Now, it is strange that in 2001, some 33 years later, she can say this.
[02:18:01]  So, in essence, she may have been looking all that time and finally found something.
[02:18:06]  But in any case, it was announced.
[02:18:08]  We all know about Zelitsky's find.
[02:18:11]  But nobody goes down there to see it.
[02:18:14]  It's 2,000 feet down, and the Cuban government controls the space.
[02:18:21]  This is quite remarkable, because if that is Atlantis, And it sounds like it, it looks like it.
[02:18:28]  What else would it be after all?
[02:18:33]  Then a lot of the political tension, the extremes, the World War III push, all these different things about Cuba and the United States start to come into clarity, including the fact that JFK, if he was working through back channels with Hemingway and Castro to somehow bring these things out in a joint position, Just like he was trying to bring out the UFO file in a joint position, which we have in an actual CIA document.
[02:19:02]  It's not somebody guessing, he was trying to do that.
[02:19:06]  This other part is very interesting, though, and Hemingway's capsule goes deep because what we do know is that saying that the capsule just had old stories and things that he had written.
[02:19:26]  No, that doesn't add up.
[02:19:29]  And also the fact that they said that the contents were delivered to Jackie Kennedy and then she subsequently put them in the JFK library.
[02:19:39]  Certainly, there are aspects of Hemingway's life in the JFK library, yes, but what was actually in the capsule?
[02:19:49]  So there's a lot of different pieces to this now.
[02:19:52]  Okay, Miss Olivia.
[02:19:53]  It's interesting.
[02:19:54]  The chat's getting very quiet, very focused.
[02:19:58]  They feel you're onto something huge.
[02:20:00]  Yes.
[02:20:01]  No question.
[02:20:01]  Nobody can wait till next week.
[02:20:02]  Yes.
[02:20:03]  Okay.
[02:20:03]  Anyway, that said, Najat Madri, any connection to the New Atlantis and Bermuda Triangle?
[02:20:10]  No question.
[02:20:12]  Look, the Bermuda Triangle, the fundamental story about it is that if you study the Casey readings, and we've talked at length about the Two Eye Stone being set in reverse, the Two Eye Stone was something that powered the entire continent of Atlantis.
[02:20:30]  When it was set too high and went into reverse, basically it pulled down aspects of the landmass with it.
[02:20:38]  Now, it happened over a series of cataclysms over years.
[02:20:42]  So, What we see going round and round there, when we have ships disappearing and planes disappearing, that's the apothegm effect of the two eye stone, which again upsets the runaway physics of our reality.
[02:21:00]  It's a reality distortion field.
[02:21:01]  That's what the mystery schools cautioned us about.
[02:21:05]  That's why they left the X steganography in place about it when they referred back to that technology.
[02:21:09]  It was the big no no.
[02:21:11]  It's locking up the X over and over again and just a few people being able to see what that is.
[02:21:16]  So, absolutely, the Bermuda Triangle is associated with this, no question.
[02:21:22]  This is intriguing.
[02:21:23]  Real Ufology says Hemingway was an intelligence asset suspected of being a double agent working for the USSR.
[02:21:30]  FBI accused of killing him.
[02:21:32]  Nobody wants to believe he was a spy.
[02:21:36]  What was the accused of killing him?
[02:21:37]  The FBI was accused of killing him.
[02:21:39]  Oh, yeah, interesting.
[02:21:42]  Well, his brother, Lester, felt that Hemingway had been killed by the CIA.
[02:21:50]  So, Lester himself, just a couple years after he appeared in the special about this Bimini well related to Atlantis, and they showed him swimming in the well, he was found having committed suicide.
[02:22:11]  If you look at the Hemingways, right down from the grandfather there, he took a bunch of papers out and set fire to them on a table and then shot himself in his driveway.
[02:22:26]  And then when we look at Hemingway, who really seemed to love life and take on every challenge, you know, if he's so suicidal, why was he afraid people were going to take him out?
[02:22:36]  Wouldn't he have just said, hey, that's great.

=== Manly Hall and Astrological Secrets (05:11) ===

[02:22:39]  I'm suffering, let them take me out.
[02:22:42]  Now, something very strange about his suicide, the subsequent suicides in that family of his brother and of his granddaughter, Margot, I think are also very unusual.
[02:22:56]  And if they relate to this knowledge of this ancient civilization that came through the Hemingways because they studied the Casey material and got readings from Casey, well, I think we could be looking at an extraordinary situation.
[02:23:13]  So, in terms of how these people die, becomes very, very important.
[02:23:22]  And then, when we consider Paula Zelitsky's work for the Cuban government, And how it's kind of like one of these stealth archives again, where we know it's there, but we can't do anything about it.
[02:23:34]  We can't get our hands on it.
[02:23:37]  I think it's remarkable.
[02:23:38]  It's a remarkable connecting of the dots when we do it.
[02:23:42]  A picture starts to form, which is based on public documents, which is based on anecdotes, which is based on political history.
[02:23:56]  This is not somebody coming to us and saying, Hey, I saw something.
[02:24:01]  I had this incredible experience.
[02:24:03]  We've got an actual document trail, we have historical figures involved.
[02:24:07]  This is something we can get our hands on.
[02:24:10]  Okay.
[02:24:12]  A cult fan wanted me to ask you about Manly P. Hall's astrological prediction of JFK's death.
[02:24:18]  Absolutely.
[02:24:19]  Well, this is something that's been on the record for a while.
[02:24:23]  But Manly P. Hall, being associated with the mystery schools, he knew a lot about astrology.
[02:24:33]  And the mystery schools, the way they read astrology is extraordinary.
[02:24:36]  I think somewhere Steiner pointed out that they knew.
[02:24:40]  Blavatsky was going to be born, and they were concerned about it.
[02:24:43]  Think about that.
[02:24:45]  So, that all came out of their astrological knowledge.
[02:24:48]  So, their ability to read exactly what's happening, I think, is phenomenal.
[02:24:53]  But what Manly Peace said in relation to JFK's assassination was fairly close to it, which I think makes it significant.
[02:25:02]  Wasn't it like a month apart?
[02:25:05]  And he said, literally, his astrology reads one, that his health isn't so good, and that they The danger factor is so high that, in fact, Manly P. Hall and Gene Dixon had both predicted the JFK assassination.
[02:25:24]  But I think particularly interesting is the connection with the mystery schools, Manly P. Hall coming out and telling his students about this a month in advance.
[02:25:33]  It is quite extraordinary, and you can find it.
[02:25:37]  You definitely can find it because so many of Manly P. Hall's lectures are out there.
[02:25:40]  So, yeah, this is an exceptional story.
[02:25:43]  Okay, keep running.
[02:25:44]  Carl Jung has the most interesting comment here.
[02:25:47]  Says the CIA uses dark spiritual forces to go after ones they deem termed expired.
[02:25:55]  Even if Hemingway pulled the trigger, forces inspired him to do it at the request of CIA black magicians.
[02:26:04]  Well, that is a really, really deep read there.
[02:26:08]  And whoever said that, he calls himself Carl Jung.
[02:26:10]  Yes.
[02:26:12]  Very interesting.
[02:26:13]  Well, Carl, you're correct that.
[02:26:18]  When figures like that die violently, there's a program in circles to contact them in that state.
[02:26:28]  And that is something that Steiner calls one of the chief secrets of the left hand schools, because that's not something a mystery school would do that was committed to moving humanity forward.
[02:26:42]  It's more on the black end of the spectrum.
[02:26:46]  It's also ultimate plausible deniability.
[02:26:49]  You know, if someone pulls the trigger and you say, Ah, they were passionate artist type, and oh, well, yeah, there's a couple things there.
[02:26:57]  I mean, he's speaking very metaphysically here, so we're talking about the esoteric, but just as a tool rather than having to get your hands dirty or paying an assassin, you know.
[02:27:06]  Well, uh, I mean, there it is interesting when you look at it that way because you're going to look on the esoteric end first, which we just did with this interesting question, which you can find in the heart of the Steiner work.
[02:27:19]  He talks about this method that's used, but um.
[02:27:24]  On the straight up side, if the CIA was aware that Ernest Hemingway had in his travels, in his investigations, come across information relating to a lost civilization, especially one that Casey had indicated had high technology, they would be very concerned about him and what he discovered and what he would share with the local leadership there, Castro, connected to the Russians.

=== Hieroglyphics and Noah's Ark (04:47) ===

[02:27:51]  So they would really have that kind of intensity for Ernest Hemingway.
[02:27:57]  That explains a lot of why they would track him so hard and be so vicious.
[02:28:01]  That's one aspect.
[02:28:03]  What's also interesting is this.
[02:28:06]  You can look through CIA files about how they studied and looked for Noah's Ark and spent a substantial amount of time and resources trying to find that.
[02:28:15]  Why?
[02:28:18]  Because they understand the power of these different things and they understand the story and the echo of that ex steganography around the events that led to the demise of the previous civilization.
[02:28:32]  The extent of their knowledge of it, when you think about the resources that they have, they cover a lot of bases.
[02:28:37]  But if they're so interested in Noah's Ark, can you imagine how interested they'd be in the two eye stone from Atlantis?
[02:28:43]  It would be completely off the charts.
[02:28:47]  All right, keep rolling.
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[02:29:51]  This is kind of perfect timing.
[02:29:53]  Now, we're going to take the last round of questions here for Miss Olivia, make sure they're all in caps.
[02:29:58]  And remember, now that we're talking here about Edgar Casey's readings relating to Bimini, yes, we did start off with the 55th anniversary of the JFK assassination.
[02:30:10]  We went through that.
[02:30:11]  But now we've moved into territory about.
[02:30:15]  Ernest Hemingway, his position in Bimini and Cuba, and the possibility that he found links to this ancient civilization that Casey said was rising, and that the work that Paula Zelitsky has done for the Russians off of Cuba and for the Cuban government is related to the exact reason why Hemingway was there and why he was so hassled.
[02:30:39]  So that's where we're going.
[02:30:40]  Okay, Europe.
[02:30:41]  Okay, Emily Lynn wants to know when did Casey say Atlantis would break water, or will it always be submerged?
[02:30:51]  Well, what he said is it was rising from the slime of ages, and that the Temple of Poseidon was rising.
[02:30:57]  So let's think about that for a moment.
[02:30:59]  This is how he saw it rising.
[02:31:04]  He also said that at a certain point, lands would appear off the East Coast that were formerly Atlantis.
[02:31:11]  By the way, other land masses will be submerged.
[02:31:14]  For example, California is supposed to be destroyed.
[02:31:17]  But this is a gradual, not a cataclysmic activity that is.
[02:31:22]  It's not like we can expect California to drop off.
[02:31:26]  And I hope it doesn't.
[02:31:28]  I hope that Casey was wrong in that regard.
[02:31:30]  But he's outlining these things.
[02:31:33]  He's giving us an idea that there are going to be earth changes.
[02:31:36]  But part of those changes are not just negative.
[02:31:38]  That is, it's very positive if this new landmass comes up.
[02:31:42]  But the landmass itself, in this process, as the water is lowered and the land rises, is going to reveal that there was a form of civilization there.
[02:31:51]  So long before it breaks the surface, we're going to see, like what Paula Zelitsky is seeing, these advanced buildings, you know, the monoliths, the things that are such a signature of these advanced civilizations.
[02:32:07]  It looks basically, you know, look, Zelitsky, if you really study her work, she's gotten so close as to look at the buildings and what's on them.
[02:32:16]  And what she's seeing is a type of hieroglyphics.
[02:32:19]  Okay, so the hieroglyphics is what she's seeing.
[02:32:23]  But when they asked her directly, do they look like Egyptian hieroglyphics?
[02:32:25]  She said, no, they look like Mayan hieroglyphics.
[02:32:28]  Well, this is that Western portion of Atlantis that became the Mayan and the Incan civilizations.
[02:32:36]  So it's pretty deep.
[02:32:37]  It's pretty deep.

=== Mayan Hieroglyphics in Cuba (02:39) ===

[02:32:38]  And when we're looking at this, if we can tie Zelitsky's work into the Casey Bimini work, into the reason why JFK spent so much political capital to get this capsule out of Cuba.
[02:32:56]  I think we're in a totally new paradigm when looking at these figures and these events in history.
[02:33:05]  Okay, you're up.
[02:33:06]  Okay, Najat wanted to know could those contents of Hemingway's capsule be in that Egyptian sculpture in the JFK library?
[02:33:14]  It's a fun idea.
[02:33:20]  Well, you know, it's a very interesting, it's not really big enough to hold all that material, but that statue is quite remarkable.
[02:33:27]  There's no doubt about it.
[02:33:29]  I will share a story from a friend of mine who formerly worked for the Kennedys.
[02:33:36]  And the story goes back now a little while, but she was working for them.
[02:33:42]  I won't identify her name because she doesn't work for them anymore, but she certainly spent a good deal of time with them.
[02:33:51]  And one of the paintings had broken and had fallen down, and she was going to call somebody about it, and what she found was.
[02:34:04]  Something behind the painting inside of it, which was a transcript, a couple pieces of paper, kind of like this, basically, folded over inside the picture.
[02:34:15]  And when she opened them up, they were transcripts of FBI surveillance of the Kennedys.
[02:34:24]  I found this story very interesting because that ongoing surveillance of the Kennedys and their knowledge about it and how they apparently were hiding it even in their own pictures.
[02:34:37]  I think it's really quite remarkable.
[02:34:40]  And I think, like with RFK Jr. coming out recently and saying he didn't believe the official story on Sirhan Sirhan murdering his father, you know, the Kennedys have always kept a low profile on these things.
[02:34:53]  And we might be looking at a sea change, a dramatic sea change in relation to this.
[02:34:59]  Okay, Miss Olivia, we'll take the last couple of questions.
[02:35:01]  Okay, so Eric Ackerley wants to know what was Castro's relationship with Hemingway?
[02:35:06]  Did they ever meet?
[02:35:07]  They did.
[02:35:08]  And that is something I'm going to get into next Friday.
[02:35:11]  And you're going to be surprised.
[02:35:13]  But yes, they met, and I have pictures and correspondence between them.

=== Fountain of Youth and Atlantis (10:58) ===

[02:35:18]  And it does seem like, you know, Hemingway had a respect for the revolutionaries because, again, he was very real, right?
[02:35:27]  This is somebody who was very hardcore.
[02:35:31]  And so when we're looking at it this way, you know, we're getting some idea of.
[02:35:39]  His respect for the revolutionaries on one side.
[02:35:41]  But on the other side, he may have been going with the tide because he wanted to remain there and continue to live his life there and search for these ruins.
[02:35:49]  So he may have been kind of cozying up.
[02:35:52]  But what's interesting is, of course, when Castro first came to power, he came here.
[02:35:56]  He went to New York and he met with Vice President Nixon and he made a speech.
[02:36:03]  And they didn't know how to regard him, they didn't know he was going to go communist and all the rest of it.
[02:36:07]  But that's interesting too, because did it relate to the ruins that they were finding there off of Cuba?
[02:36:14]  And is that why he took the backing of the Russians on this?
[02:36:17]  Because the Russians had the.
[02:36:20]  Technical know how to go down there and find it.
[02:36:22]  I mean, there's a lot of things that come into play now that might explain things from a less than political point of view that we'll have a better understanding of.
[02:36:34]  But in essence, Hemingway had to leave Cuba anyway because it had become such a pariah country to the United States.
[02:36:42]  And when he left, he had to leave his capsule behind.
[02:36:46]  I mean, it looks like he left in a hurry.
[02:36:48]  No question.
[02:36:49]  Okay.
[02:36:50]  Robert Graff wanted to know could the well be what Ponce de Leon called the fountain of youth?
[02:36:57]  Well, this is what it's interesting.
[02:36:59]  You can actually find this if you search in YouTube for In Search of Bimini with Leonard Nimoy.
[02:37:09]  And it's like a 22 minute documentary.
[02:37:11]  They still show it on the History Channel once in a while.
[02:37:14]  You can find it.
[02:37:15]  But you will find, of course, we love In Search of.
[02:37:17]  We love it.
[02:37:18]  You will find Ernest Hemingway's brother.
[02:37:22]  Going into that well.
[02:37:23]  And this idea of the Fountain of Youth and Ponce de Lillian giving us that information that when he went into that area, they had told him, those natives had told him about this Fountain of Youth that transformed all these people.
[02:37:39]  And the thing that Lester Hemingway is trying to tell us, I think, in the clip that's so fascinating is that people recover from arthritis, they recover from these different conditions that they have, but also that the well is developed in such a way that Only an advanced civilization could have chiseled it out the way that they did.
[02:37:58]  And another thing, which I'm going to show next Friday, are these overhead shots that show a series of lines, much like the Nazca lines, that actually crisscross right at the well.
[02:38:09]  So there's something quite significant, I think, with that.
[02:38:12]  And I don't know the state of the well.
[02:38:13]  I've been trying to find out the state of the well and if it's been covered back over since, because that took place in 1978.
[02:38:20]  So we're talking about 40 years out.
[02:38:21]  But yeah, we're deep on it now.
[02:38:24]  Okay, keep rolling.
[02:38:25]  Okay, this is kind of a big question, but Planet Lupa wanted to know how does all of this tie into Joseph Farrell's ideas about Nazi International and the killing of JFK?
[02:38:35]  Yep.
[02:38:37]  And Ryan Hedenkamp wants to know how do we discern UFO from drill slash Nazi tech?
[02:38:44]  Yes.
[02:38:45]  Well, it's interesting you bring up Joseph Farrell in this relation because certainly on the Nazi International side, that is the group.
[02:38:55]  The fascist international group that survived after the war with a lot of Nazi loot and went to South America.
[02:39:03]  As a piece of history now, we just don't know the extent to which how large that group was that left, but we know they had a lot of clout.
[02:39:13]  So certainly it comes into play because of their own advanced technology and their work with Bell that Joseph Farrell has done some excellent research on over the years.
[02:39:24]  They'd be very, very interested.
[02:39:26]  Listen, the Nazis sent out expeditions to find Atlantis.
[02:39:28]  To Antarctica, to Tibet, to Central America.
[02:39:32]  Okay, they were very, very deep on this and they would hold a complete fascination for it.
[02:39:36]  If it came up that this was something that was being discovered.
[02:39:42]  And also, listen, the mystery schools intentionally, through Casey, in my opinion, let this information out, or else it wouldn't have been allowed to come out.
[02:39:52]  So, the mystery schools wanted us to know about Bimini.
[02:39:55]  They wanted us to know about the Atlantis connection, and they used Casey as the conduit.
[02:39:58]  And Casey basically sacrificed his life to bring that information to people.
[02:40:04]  And, you know, it's fascinating to me because I think the Casey Foundation.
[02:40:12]  Don't give enough credence to his Atlantis work, probably because it spooks some of his followers who were just looking for that kind of holistic information.
[02:40:22]  But the Atlantis part is crucial.
[02:40:24]  And the apothecary connection to the Atlantis part is very important, relating to the two eyed stones that ran the continent of Atlantis with this kind of worldwide energy system.
[02:40:35]  It's a great key also to our own past.
[02:40:37]  And do we become awake when we think about these things?
[02:40:41]  Do we become awake and aware when we remember that culture?
[02:40:46]  It's quite remarkable.
[02:40:47]  So, yes.
[02:40:49]  I don't think you said this, but Kontiki may want to know regarding Dr. Farrell, did the Ananerba ever do research on Cuba?
[02:40:58]  Central America, but maybe more like Honduras, maybe more that El Salvador.
[02:41:07]  I've never heard about them being in Cuba, but that's interesting.
[02:41:11]  That is certainly an interesting question.
[02:41:15]  I'll find out if they've been in Cuba.
[02:41:21]  You know, there are famous stories about those boats that were trying to leave Nazi Germany and got turned away at Cuba.
[02:41:28]  So that's something that pops in my mind right away.
[02:41:30]  But I think, in terms of the Nazi archaeology, we do know they were in Central America.
[02:41:35]  That's damn close to Cuba.
[02:41:38]  So it's quite possible.
[02:41:40]  Certainly possible.
[02:41:41]  Okay, we'll take two more.
[02:41:43]  Okay.
[02:41:43]  TJ Liberty Bell, do you think Trump has any meaningful access to the file?
[02:41:50]  Yes, I think that Trump wants more access to the UFO file.
[02:41:57]  I think through John Trump, his uncle, who worked and was mentored by Vannevar Bush, who controlled the UFO file, that John Trump knows a great deal about and worked on the UFO file and that passed along that information to Trump.
[02:42:12]  I don't think there's any doubt about it.
[02:42:14]  I did an episode called Tesla, Trump, and the Time Capsule.
[02:42:16]  We just crossed 300,000 views on that.
[02:42:18]  It's the most highly watched episode of the X series, it's the runaway episode, the runaway physics episode.
[02:42:27]  And a lot of that is covered there.
[02:42:29]  A lot of that is covered.
[02:42:30]  So, yes.
[02:42:32]  But Trump wants more, which is what the announcement of the Space Force is all about.
[02:42:36]  Don't forget it for a minute that there was no political reason to announce the Space Force when the Space Force has to go through committee, it has to go through congressional hearings, it has to go through the Senate, be voted on.
[02:42:48]  You can't say to the military, start a Space Force like he did over the summer.
[02:42:54]  That was a very deaf.
[02:42:56]  Political move.
[02:42:57]  We'll see if it pays off.
[02:42:59]  But yeah, pretty wild.
[02:43:00]  I certainly, when I look at Trump, I feel that he knows a great deal more than he's given credit for.
[02:43:08]  There's no doubt about it.
[02:43:11]  Okay.
[02:43:11]  Okay.
[02:43:12]  David Termina is advocating for Najat and Bokrils who want to know if this fight goes all the way back to the Spanish invasion.
[02:43:20]  I think what people are kind of trying to piece together here is fascism, where fascism meets.
[02:43:28]  The cover up of ancient magic, really?
[02:43:31]  Well, look, the Nazis were very, very aware of and very, very well studied in theosophy.
[02:43:43]  They understood it very well.
[02:43:44]  They drove Steiner, you know, they burnt the Gurney Autumn to the ground.
[02:43:50]  They were, got rid of Waldorf schools.
[02:43:53]  You know, they were very esoterically minded for their own dark interests.
[02:44:01]  So, they, but they studied theosophy.
[02:44:03]  They understood Atlantis and they understood the root, the power of the root culture.
[02:44:08]  They may have twisted the meaning of what Blavatsky came out with and developed that Aryan thing into their own Superman mythology.
[02:44:17]  But in essence, they understood the fundamentals, which was that Atlantis existed and that there was a great power to it in our own discovery.
[02:44:25]  And that they had expeditions all over the world trying to find it, including Antarctica, as we know.
[02:44:30]  So, yes, I think that.
[02:44:35]  Their understanding, their searches, their excavations in search of this shows a depth, a level of esoteric knowledge that inspires the entire Nazi movement.
[02:44:54]  The question is what is it that they discovered?
[02:44:57]  And I think if they didn't have their hands on the ruins under the water of Cuba, which was very hard to get to at the time and still is.
[02:45:08]  The timing wasn't right either because the land was rising.
[02:45:10]  I don't think they got their hands on that.
[02:45:13]  But I think a lot of people want to get their hands on it now.
[02:45:17]  And some of those may be Nazis.
[02:45:18]  Okay.
[02:45:19]  We'll take one more, Miss Olivia.
[02:45:20]  Ben Jojo says How did dark journalists become so ridiculously schooled and versed on this history?
[02:45:28]  It takes a little time.
[02:45:29]  It takes a little time.
[02:45:30]  Thank you.
[02:45:32]  No, really, listen, I think that when you get something that you're passionate about, you spend a lot of time with it.
[02:45:37]  And if you spend enough time with it, then.
[02:45:41]  You start to kind of inhabit it in a sense, and ideas occur to you and things open up over a series of years.
[02:45:50]  And so I've been on it for a long time.
[02:45:54]  And the way I look at it You had to have a start on all of us because you started when you were a kid.
[02:45:59]  I did.
[02:46:00]  I did.
[02:46:00]  I've been reading this stuff since I was seven or eight years old.
[02:46:03]  One of the earliest books I remember having is John Keel's Eighth Tower, which is pretty good.
[02:46:08]  That's good reading for an eight year old.
[02:46:10]  So I guess that explains a lot, doesn't it?
[02:46:12]  Olivia.
[02:46:13]  Yeah, but your parents always talked to you about Atlantis and whatnot, right?

=== Kennedy's Spiritual Political Insight (02:57) ===

[02:46:16]  Because of Casey.
[02:46:18]  No, no, they didn't actually.
[02:46:20]  No, but there is, I mean, I wouldn't say they talked to me all the time about it, no, but it's something that they were open to.
[02:46:28]  And I think that my, when I look at my dad in particular, I would say he was somebody who understood that there was a culture back there that was significant.
[02:46:41]  And I think that there's, He aroused a kind of a curiosity in me about what that could be.
[02:46:49]  And also being very kind of electrically minded the way that he was, I think he was fascinated with the technological aspect.
[02:46:56]  So, yeah, absolutely.
[02:46:57]  He did give me that inspiration.
[02:47:01]  And, you know, my mom was very much into astrology.
[02:47:04]  So, yeah, there are, they definitely, I mean, there's a lot of different things I think that I picked up from them.
[02:47:16]  But no, I think in relation to this kind of work, it is something that got momentum over time, you know.
[02:47:26]  So, yes, I thank you very much.
[02:47:30]  We'll take one more question.
[02:47:31]  Okay.
[02:47:34]  Zach Girard, who do you think actually killed Kennedy?
[02:47:40]  Well, I think that Professor Scott put it well, which is the assassination of President Kennedy was the first deep state revolt against the White House.
[02:47:51]  When we think about President Kennedy, it's important for us to remember this.
[02:47:55]  He's portrayed as, you know, just this young leader coming in and having a vision of Camelot, but his vision was so transformative for the people who had set up the country and had set up the world, like the Dulles brothers and like that Cold War apparatus that was put in place.
[02:48:15]  They knew where they wanted to go to control the globe.
[02:48:18]  And Kennedy represented a totally different vision.
[02:48:21]  He was coming from a completely different place.
[02:48:23]  He understood freedom.
[02:48:24]  He was very well read and he understood he'd been all over the globe.
[02:48:30]  His father had been ambassador to England, some since he grew up there.
[02:48:37]  He'd been in World War II.
[02:48:39]  His own boat got sliced in half.
[02:48:42]  And, you know, I think that experience and being close to death over and over again gave him a kind of a spiritual insight that was informed by incredible political experience.
[02:48:52]  And they were looking at this guy and thinking, We can't control him with money.
[02:48:57]  We can't control his political idealism.
[02:49:01]  What are we going to do with this guy?
[02:49:02]  And I think by the time he got around to reclaiming the UFO file aspect, in addition to all the other reforms that he had created, he had so many enemies as a president, it's quite unusual.

=== Deep State Enemies Abolished (02:59) ===

[02:49:14]  I mean, most presidents have enemies here and there partisan enemies, past enemies.
[02:49:19]  But Kennedy, everywhere you turn, you're looking at the Rockefellers opposing him, the steel companies opposing him.
[02:49:28]  Elements of the deep state, the CIA, and the mafia opposing him.
[02:49:31]  So it's the kind of position that somebody who's a real reformer finds themselves in.
[02:49:40]  But I don't think, I think when he was looking at the situation, I don't feel that, you know, I don't think with the people that he was working with, when he got into these situations of tracking the CIA, he would say, I can't believe that they're doing all these things without my authority, including creating a second space program.
[02:49:59]  And he would rein that in over and over again and talk about how to scrap the CIA and smash it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the breeze.
[02:50:08]  I mean, these are natural enemies.
[02:50:11]  So he understood it was an extra constitutional force.
[02:50:14]  And interestingly enough, Harry Truman, and I had a picture of Truman and Kennedy that we'll end on here today.
[02:50:23]  That's kind of an important shot there because Truman, one month to the day after Kennedy's assassination, would come out and say, the CIA needs to be reformed or abolished.
[02:50:33]  And he ran in the Washington Post his own editorial about it.
[02:50:38]  And that night, according to Truman's aide, Alan Dulles, who has been fired by Kennedy, came to Harry Truman and said, You need to rescind that editorial.
[02:50:54]  You need to scrap it and disown it.
[02:50:56]  And Truman said, Look, I'm old.
[02:50:57]  You can't do anything to me.
[02:50:59]  I'm not going to rescind it.
[02:51:00]  Get out of here.
[02:51:01]  That's what we need to say to the CIA today.
[02:51:05]  In terms of these records, those are our records.
[02:51:09]  And if they reveal anything in relation to the death of President Kennedy, then we need to see them.
[02:51:16]  So, you know, I think we need a little bit of Harry Truman on there.
[02:51:19]  What's interesting about Truman and people don't really understand is that he created the CIA.
[02:51:23]  So, for him to call for it to be abolished is extraordinary.
[02:51:29]  And they've tried to cover that editorial up over years, but you can find it.
[02:51:33]  It's there.
[02:51:33]  I printed out a copy of it, it'll be there forever.
[02:51:37]  And You know, if anything, I think Truman was signaling look, you know, they aren't in a position, they should not be in a position where they can remove president because they don't like his policies.
[02:51:48]  And I think we need to keep that in mind when we see so much CIA resistance against Trump from either side of the parties.
[02:51:57]  Even if you're a Democrat, we still don't want the CIA running the country.
[02:52:01]  And I think the deep state's role now is so entrenched that, you know, we have to really bring this out to the surface and bring the abuse of power.

=== See You Next Week (03:08) ===

[02:52:13]  The overgrowth of this agency.
[02:52:15]  I mean, what are we talking about?
[02:52:17]  All it's supposed to be is an intelligence gathering arm for the presidency.
[02:52:20]  That's it.
[02:52:23]  But they're making policy in all these other countries.
[02:52:25]  So that's something that Kennedy understood.
[02:52:27]  And 55 years later, we're still in the same battle.
[02:52:30]  So I think it's important for us to look at this.
[02:52:33]  This is part one of three episodes dealing with Hemingway, dealing with this capsule, dealing with this new revelation around the lost civilization and the work.
[02:52:44]  Of Paula Zelitsky.
[02:52:46]  This is going to run deep and this is going to change things.
[02:52:49]  So I want everyone to take this into consideration.
[02:52:54]  Next Friday, we're coming back with Gigi Young and we're going to go deep on this, looking at it from a mystery school angle as well.
[02:53:03]  And then Saturday, we're going to close the show, we're going to present more information about it.
[02:53:08]  With those three episodes, we'll change history.
[02:53:10]  And this is part one.
[02:53:11]  We're doing a back to back show next week?
[02:53:13]  Indeed, we are.
[02:53:13]  I did not realize that.
[02:53:15]  I should probably tell you this stuff.
[02:53:18]  What else would you like to add, Miss Olivia?
[02:53:19]  That's it.
[02:53:20]  A lot of people are saying this is the best X show ever.
[02:53:23]  Isn't that wonderful?
[02:53:24]  Thank you so much.
[02:53:25]  Of course, we love you guys out there, and you submitted great questions.
[02:53:30]  We've moved a lot of the conversation on Twitter, too.
[02:53:32]  If you go at dark journalists and at ohwingsgirl, is that it?
[02:53:38]  That's even good.
[02:53:39]  On Twitter?
[02:53:39]  Yeah.
[02:53:40]  Yes, it's ohwingsgirl.
[02:53:41]  Unbelievable.
[02:53:42]  Olivia just holding court on Twitter is remarkable.
[02:53:46]  And of course, we're doing the updates on dark journalists.
[02:53:49]  On Twitter as well.
[02:53:50]  So definitely pay attention there and sign up for the newsletter.
[02:53:55]  We will see you next Friday with Gigi Young and more on the Hemingway JFK connection.
[02:54:01]  Thank you so much for tuning in with us tonight.
[02:54:03]  And the last word, of course, Olivia, what's for dinner?
[02:54:07]  That leftover apple crisp is calling my name.
[02:54:11]  You brought that apple crisp in.
[02:54:12]  That's amazing stuff.
[02:54:15]  The trick is not to eat the rest of it.
[02:54:17]  Well, the stuff's made to be eaten, isn't it?
[02:54:20]  Yes.
[02:54:21]  I would agree.
[02:54:22]  A little post Thanksgiving buzz for everyone.
[02:54:25]  And we will see you next week.
[02:54:29]  One thing I want to point out for everyone, too, is that you really, this is kind of like the perfect time for us to have that connection going on.
[02:54:39]  So go to the site, sign up for the Dark Journalist newsletter, keep yourself informed.
[02:54:45]  And it's a fantastic crowd tonight.
[02:54:47]  I want to shout out to a couple of people I see out there.
[02:54:49]  Of course, Breach123, excellent questions.
[02:54:51]  Lee Veltman, thank you for being here with us.
[02:54:54]  Christine Taggart, Always great to have you out there.
[02:54:59]  And Bo Krill's a cult fan, just terrific people coming in and submitting great questions.
[02:55:05]  And I've been getting great emails from you as well.
[02:55:07]  We will see you next Friday at 7 p.m.
[02:55:12]  Okay, good night, everybody.
[02:55:13]  Have a great weekend.
[02:55:16]  Apple crisp.
[02:55:17]  I can't wait to start.
[02:55:21]  Bye bye.