Dark Journalist - ALICE X IN CERN MYSTERY SCHOOL WONDERLAND! DARK JOURNALIST X SERIES PART XV
Aired: 2018-06-23
Duration: 02:39:32


=== The Foundation of the Series (10:41) ===

[00:00:03]  And we are live.
[00:00:04]  This is Dark Journalist.
[00:00:05]  It's great to have everyone here.
[00:00:06]  We have a very special show fee this evening.
[00:00:09]  So, you know, it's one of these things where there's a number of factors coming together in our research right now, and a lot of things are opening up, you could say.
[00:00:21]  But one of the great things about what we're doing with the X Series tonight is we're going to take us back into this period of the 19th century and then bring us forward.
[00:00:33]  To today.
[00:00:35]  And the 19th century piece is going to contain elements of the Orphic Circle, which we touched on here before, but we're going to expand the picture of how it relates to one of the most important literary pieces of all time, which is the children's fantasy Alice in Wonderland, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.
[00:00:56]  And it's going to really open up the whole focus around how the X fits into this and how the tale itself comes from a Rosicrucian.
[00:01:08]  And we're going to explore deeply Lewis Carroll's Theosophical and Rosicrucian links and also his status inside the Society for Psychical Research, which saw him really as one of the best psychics anywhere.
[00:01:26]  And very late in his life, he will admit that he was, in fact, quite psychic.
[00:01:29]  Of course, we're joined here by the lovely Olivia.
[00:01:32]  Hi, everybody.
[00:01:33]  And, you know, it's interesting because it smells like perfume in here, I guess.
[00:01:37]  It does.
[00:01:39]  I'm thinking that there's someone to blame for that.
[00:01:45]  But it's great to have everyone here.
[00:01:46]  It's already a great crowd.
[00:01:48]  And we are, I want to mention that tonight we're not going to have a guest.
[00:01:54]  I'm going to do the show in complete form.
[00:01:58]  And we have a very special guest who's going to come on the show.
[00:02:02]  And I spoke to them today at length.
[00:02:04]  And we are preparing their appearance on the show.
[00:02:07]  And they're going to be a fantastic link.
[00:02:09]  For the X show, and I believe we're going to have them on in the first week of July, if I read that correctly.
[00:02:15]  So that's fantastic.
[00:02:17]  Also, coming up next week is Catherine Austin Fitz on the space economy and the space force.
[00:02:22]  So lots of incredible things coming up.
[00:02:26]  But let's get into it tonight because one of the important things about tonight is we're going to find ourselves in the middle of modern day pop culture, modern strange moves around technology.
[00:02:42]  The modern political system.
[00:02:44]  And then we're going to find our roots deep, deep in that 19th century mysticism, which harkens back to an earlier period of 16th century Hermeticism.
[00:02:54]  And that we're going to find links even further back.
[00:02:58]  But let's bring it in.
[00:02:59]  Of course, the X series, just for people who are not familiar with some of the things that we've been doing here.
[00:03:06]  Basically, my research, I found something which is this X steganography that rides throughout these programs that went black that were associated with.
[00:03:15]  A certain technology that I'm referring to as X technology, and we find it in the UFO file and in other places.
[00:03:22]  But in the UFO file, we have its most obvious trail because we can trail it as it comes out of the Air Force projects and the Black military projects and CIA projects, because the project was so vast and so secret that they needed a way to track it that would be public.
[00:03:42]  And so they couldn't just kind of ascribe to a technique.
[00:03:47]  That would be more like a cryptography where they would just hand this around, you know, with a secret password type thing.
[00:03:56]  They needed something which was right out there in the open, which is what steganography is.
[00:04:00]  So it's visible in the open, but only somebody who knows about it can see it.
[00:04:04]  That is the X steganography.
[00:04:06]  And the X steganography, I found actually 160 examples of the X steganography of programs that were going black and would reemerge with this X.
[00:04:17]  And also, we featured people like President Trump's Uncle John and his connection to Tesla.
[00:04:26]  And we featured people like Vannevar Bush, for example, who was deep, deep inside the UFO file program.
[00:04:34]  But somebody might say, well, you know, the X stuff, how would that all relate to Alice in Wonderland?
[00:04:40]  And it's quite fascinating because, believe it or not, the X steganography and the kind of way we've been tracing it back has great resonance with the mystery schools and with this whole period.
[00:04:53]  And we know that there are a lot of stealth archives that we've run across, and they consist of things like these X letters, which these presidents leave behind and which we discover are there in these presidential libraries and in these different places.
[00:05:07]  But nobody can get access to them because they're not to be opened until 2023 or 2053.
[00:05:12]  And I've shown many examples of them, and you can bet tonight I'm going to show examples of them also.
[00:05:17]  Now, interestingly enough, when I was decided to come forward and do dark journalist work, of course, I was doing journalist work before that for a decade, but I wasn't doing anything along the lines of, say, the black budget or some of the deeper investigations that I do as dark journalists.
[00:05:36]  But what I selected, just kind of out of my Imagination was this X.
[00:05:44]  And it's quite interesting because the X will form the foundation of the series over time, interestingly enough, because I was studying how this X steganography was popping up.
[00:05:56]  But this year, something interesting happened where the research kind of took up an extra level, an extra notch, where some of these letters actually came forward.
[00:06:03]  And one of them that I thought was particularly compelling, and I often show them.
[00:06:08]  So if you've seen them before, forgive me, but I want to show them for people who haven't seen them.
[00:06:11]  This one is the X envelope that comes from the LBJ library.
[00:06:17]  Let's take a good look at that.
[00:06:18]  That's a particularly important one because it's not to be opened until 2023.
[00:06:24]  And LBJ actually had quite a role in developing the UFO file.
[00:06:29]  And so, so many of these X letters about these presidents telling people in the future that they are going to be a major part of the things that they did, what they contributed to developing that X technology.
[00:06:44]  And they want their roles known eventually when it's safe.
[00:06:47]  For them to say it well, you know, it's already on the record.
[00:06:50]  We've shown the tight relationship between Nixon and Trump, which I think is quite important, including this letter from Nixon to Donald Trump in 1987, telling him to run for president and predicting that he will win.
[00:07:05]  We've gone to great lengths to show that Jean Dixon was closely associated with Nixon and giving him these kind of prognostications where he's really running the country with her information.
[00:07:15]  And there again, we see this overhang from what I call the Orphic Circle.
[00:07:20]  And that's what they, the best name that Emma Britton gave to it.
[00:07:24]  One of the things that I'm going to do, and Emma Britton is somebody who is a 19th century somnambulist, medium spiritualist, who was a part of theosophy, is one of these mystery schools we've been covering.
[00:07:37]  And whenever we cover this political end of things, we end up back at the mystery schools over and over again.
[00:07:43]  So those things are inextricably linked.
[00:07:45]  There's no question about it.
[00:07:47]  The other thing I want to show, which I often show, is John Trump himself.
[00:07:52]  Nice quick look.
[00:07:54]  At Uncle Trump, who was an MIT professor, excellent, you know, quite an engineer and just kind of a fantastic mind.
[00:08:05]  He was called in, of course, after Nikola Tesla was, you know, he was being surveilled by the FBI and they found out, oh, he's got this death ray.
[00:08:14]  And so when he died, they swooped in to get the information.
[00:08:17]  But they asked Trump, and this is something that I found out from the interview that he had, John Trump had before he died with Standeo.
[00:08:27]  They said, you need to find in his research something that will relate to the taking down of flying objects at a distance.
[00:08:37]  So, of course, unidentified flying objects becomes the keyword there for the FBI shortly after that.
[00:08:45]  So, there's no question that the two were related.
[00:08:47]  And when I was investigating Trump, as fate would have it, I went over to the MIT library, which is close by, and I was looking for the information, the papers that.
[00:08:58]  Trump had left behind because I was doing a study on the Rad Lab, which we did a couple of episodes on.
[00:09:02]  Absolutely fascinating group inside of some of the most major developments and helped us win World War II.
[00:09:10]  Of course, Vannevar Bush is in that crew along with John Trump.
[00:09:13]  And I often show this, but Trump's box, when I went over there with Olivia, we went over there and we found out it was box X where they kept all of John Trump's papers.
[00:09:25]  And so the X steganography, even when we weren't looking for it, would come up.
[00:09:31]  We were determined to find out at that point exactly what was going on with John Trump, and the story gets deeper.
[00:09:38]  But we'll save that for another time.
[00:09:40]  You get the kind of background, just this idea that the sex steganography is something that's coming up over and over again, and it doesn't have any legitimate explanation, except that in these circles, you need a way when you have a secret project to be able for large groups of people to carry on and to see this without it being obvious to the outside.
[00:10:01]  World, but the outside world has to see it as something normal, hence the X steganography.
[00:10:06]  So we're deep in there.
[00:10:09]  So that will kind of bring us around on the X.
[00:10:13]  Okay, let's take us back in time a little bit and find out why Alice in Wonderland is an esoteric tale of the highest order, why it is deeply related to the mystery schools, and why it plays such a major role in understanding theosophy and understanding what the X is.
[00:10:35]  And what the X technology represents.
[00:10:37]  Because what we find over and over again when we're dealing with the X is that we're encountering this effect.

=== Alice in Wonderland Esoteric Tale (08:57) ===

[00:10:44]  And in a modern parlance, we would talk about the effects of a contactee, for example, who has missing time, or people who encounter craft and their car goes dead or something.
[00:10:56]  There's some kind of reality distortion field that accompanies very often this whole business of.
[00:11:06]  Interacting with anything around the UFO file.
[00:11:09]  But what's interesting is even when it's not related to that, when you go deeper into the mystery schools and the effects that they were kind of passing down through the schools, we find this effect also, which is a reality distortion effect.
[00:11:23]  So I've called it Apotheum as a way we can kind of keep the effect in mind.
[00:11:29]  And I'll get deeper into Apotheum at some point.
[00:11:34]  One of the things I want to point out here about Lewis Carroll right off the bat, let's give a few biographical Bits about him.
[00:11:42]  And it's quite fascinating, actually, his whole history.
[00:11:46]  But a synopsis would be he's a mathematician and photographer.
[00:11:50]  He's a philosophy major and some of the best mathematicians.
[00:11:53]  He's an incredible mathematician, this guy.
[00:11:56]  So much so that at certain points he's meeting with the top mathematicians.
[00:12:01]  They're visiting him from all over.
[00:12:04]  And he's also found to be very close with Queen Victoria, who is absolutely obsessed with his books.
[00:12:13]  He, in fact, is a librarian at the Oxford, the University of Oxford Library.
[00:12:20]  So, access to incredible documents and different publications.
[00:12:27]  And one of the publications is the Library of Rosicrucian.
[00:12:32]  And the different Rosicrucian histories, their pamphlets, their teachings, and all the rest of it.
[00:12:38]  And this Brotherhood of the Rosicross is right at the heart, the very crisscross of the mystery schools passing down the knowledge prior to theosophy and anthroposophy.
[00:12:47]  So, Lewis Carroll, he actually, his real name was the Reverend Charles Dodgson.
[00:12:53]  And as a reverend, you know, he always had problems with it because he definitely had a spiritual mind, but he felt very constricted by the church and the way that they taught things.
[00:13:05]  And when it came down to it, he asked, you know, can I, when the training was almost complete, he's like, can I bow out of this and still be a part of Oxford?
[00:13:13]  And they agreed.
[00:13:14]  Actually, he formed a great friendship.
[00:13:16]  With the Dean of Oxford.
[00:13:20]  And in fact, Alice Little was, who was Alice in Wonderland, who was the inspiration for it.
[00:13:28]  She was the daughter of the Dean of Oxford.
[00:13:31]  So we're getting a lot of really kind of high end influences here.
[00:13:34]  Now, one thing that I'm going to show by the time we get to the end here is that actually, the real true, when you get right down to it, the true, true, true Alice in Wonderland.
[00:13:47]  Was someone I pointed out on this show previously, which is this character here, Emma Britton.
[00:14:01]  I want to bring her in immediately because Emma was this incredible somnambulist, trance medium, trance channel, we'd call them now.
[00:14:11]  And Helena Blavatsky, who was the founder of the Theosophical Society and really has these incredible credentials.
[00:14:20]  On the psychic side, in terms of who's got the goods and all the rest of it, she said that Emma Britton was the best psychic medium that she'd ever come across.
[00:14:30]  You think about that kind of a compliment coming from someone like Blavatsky, it's quite extraordinary.
[00:14:35]  And what's interesting when we contemplate also that one of her great quotes is about if she could only combine Emma Britton's psychic ability with Annie Besant's oratory, she would have the kind of perfect blend in a person for teaching theosophy.
[00:14:52]  So, this is how.
[00:14:53]  She laid it out there, and I find it quite interesting when you get right down to it.
[00:14:58]  This picture is actually of Emma when she was an actress on stage and she was a musician, a dancer, and quite remarkable.
[00:15:07]  Emma would go on to be a very important medium in the court of Abe Lincoln and his whole administration, and really bringing that interest around when the spiritualism craze hit.
[00:15:20]  And of course, she did tours for Lincoln, going out there and speaking politically also.
[00:15:24]  So she wasn't just.
[00:15:26]  Limited to doing her mystical work.
[00:15:28]  She was quite extraordinary on the political side, also.
[00:15:30]  This is Emma Britton, who I'm going to show was actually the real role model archetype for Alice in Wonderland.
[00:15:39]  Not to take anything away from Alice Little, who's fascinating in her own right, as we're going to get into here.
[00:15:45]  But let's get the Emma Britton part down.
[00:15:48]  One of the extraordinary things about Emma is the circle that she describes early on in her life that would make a great difference.
[00:16:00]  And this is a group, an occult group, that included some of the highest figures that you could find in English royalty, and also included exceptional authors, and also included just the real ranking noblemen of the period.
[00:16:16]  So people like future Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli was in there, Bulwer Lytton, who, of course, we know was a Rosicrucian, who's another one of these guys who brought forward so much with his novels.
[00:16:32]  And he features very prominently in this episode, as you might imagine, and appears to be the link as to how Lewis Carroll is associated with the Orphic Circle.
[00:16:42]  But the Orphic Circle would be this group that was a very high end political group, as I just described, and they would recruit young people.
[00:16:50]  And the way that she describes it, I get the ages that she mentions basically seem to fall between nine and 14.
[00:16:58]  And what they would do with them really was train them to be these great trans channels.
[00:17:05]  And very often the children came from these different elite families.
[00:17:09]  And in Emma's case, her dad was the link in there, but it turned out that she was the granddaughter of this incredible wizard who lived in Wales.
[00:17:22]  And apparently they had targeted her out very early for this.
[00:17:29]  And so one of the things that Emma says as she gets into this whole describing her past at the end of her life.
[00:17:37]  And she was still very standoffish about giving too much information about the Orphic Circle because even though she, you know, kind of granted them permission to use her for these psychic experiments when she was very young, maybe like 10 years old, she still felt the bond of having agreed to certain things with them.
[00:17:55]  But later she would identify people like Bulwer Lytton and prime ministers and political figures as being part of the Orphic Circle, which she said was the most exclusive secret occult society in London at the time.
[00:18:07]  And I absolutely believe her.
[00:18:09]  So, quote, This is Emma describing it.
[00:18:12]  When quite young, in fact, before I became acquainted with certain parties who sought me out and professed a desire to observe the somnambulistic tendencies for which I was then remarkable at nine years old, I found my new associates to be ladies and gentlemen, mostly persons of noble rank, and during a period of several years, I and many other young persons assisted at their sessions in the quality of somnambulists or mesmeric subjects.
[00:18:40]  And we've gone through mesmer previous, but basically, That whole kind of going into a state to obtain information, going into an altered state to obtain healing.
[00:18:52]  These were mesmeric, the way that she's using the term.
[00:18:56]  So she's saying, I was a somnambulist, mesmeric subject of this group.
[00:19:02]  It was one of their leading regulations never to permit the existence of the society to be known or the members thereof named.
[00:19:09]  So that's the first rule that you learn.
[00:19:13]  Until they passed from earth to a higher life.
[00:19:15]  So if somebody died, then you could come out and say it, and no one would believe you anyway.
[00:19:19]  But it was very important while they were on Earth and functioning.
[00:19:22]  So, the secrecy factor was high.
[00:19:24]  It is in virtue of this last clause that I'm at liberty to say that Lord Bulwer Lytton, the Earl of Stanhope, and Lieutenant Morrison, better known as Zadkiel, the author of Art Magic, belonged to this society.
[00:19:38]  And Art Magic is actually quite a fascinating piece that we'll bring into this.

=== Lord Bulwer Lytton Society Members (04:58) ===

[00:19:42]  And we're going to find that some of the art aspects of Alice in Wonderland come into this.
[00:19:48]  The Society of Occultists, to whom I can now only allude, And who are named in Ghostland, which is her book about encountering spirits in the other world as an incredible medium.
[00:20:02]  So she says, who are named in Ghostland as the Orphic Circle, obtained knowledge by means I am not at liberty to mention, but they obtained knowledge of those persons whose associations they desired.
[00:20:16]  None of the members were known as such outside their circles.
[00:20:19]  The existence of the society was undreamed of.
[00:20:24]  And those whom they choose to affiliate with, they knew of and called.
[00:20:29]  I, having thus been favored, obtained a clue to my own exceptional early experiences, which the subsequent developments of spiritualism stamped as natural seership.
[00:20:41]  She had incredible psychic abilities, predict events, interact with relatives who had passed away, and so on.
[00:20:47]  So, this life of Emma Hardinge Britton gives us the clue, the setup.
[00:20:55]  To Alice in Wonderland.
[00:20:58]  Now let's go to Alice.
[00:21:02]  You know, there's a few interesting things.
[00:21:04]  Some of the most compelling images were done right in the period when the book came out.
[00:21:10]  And then later versions kind of Disney it up for sure.
[00:21:14]  But here's an early Alice, of course, watching the rabbit curiously as he goes down the rabbit hole.
[00:21:19]  And she, just like we are going to go down there with him tonight.
[00:21:25]  And I think one of the things I want to keep in mind is the.
[00:21:28]  The rabbit is a major symbol.
[00:21:30]  There are so many great characters that pop up in Alice in Wonderland, and there is no way I could do a kind of a good evaluation of all of them.
[00:21:38]  I have a pretty good idea of where some of them are going, but the rabbit I absolutely understand.
[00:21:42]  And the rabbit is what's going to lead us into understanding what the story was about and what kind of truths were vouchsafed for us in this kind of incredible story that really became the ultimate children's classic.
[00:21:56]  And I want to say right off the bat that.
[00:22:00]  What we have there is an incredibly spiritual person in Lewis Carroll feeding out this story to try to embed in children some understanding and appreciation for these esoteric mystery school truths.
[00:22:15]  And one of the things I should mention is in the title, of course, it says CERN Wonderland.
[00:22:21]  CERN Hadron Collider, of course, being this kind of oversized, bloated, bizarre, mystical, and highly secretive project that's going on.
[00:22:30]  Where they smash these particles together to try to obtain the Higgs boson, which is this kind of mythical god particle about what happened during the Big Bang.
[00:22:41]  Well, oddly enough, as it turns out, there's quite a substantial reactor inside, particle accelerator reactor inside of CERN, named Alice.
[00:22:55]  And there's a whole background to that.
[00:22:57]  So if you're curious about why we included that in the title, in the second part of tonight's program, we're going to get into Alice at the CERN part.
[00:23:05]  But here we're going to go right into who else was and what the esoteric aspects are.
[00:23:10]  Still with me there, Olivia?
[00:23:11]  How are we doing over there as far as questions?
[00:23:14]  We're doing great.
[00:23:15]  Oh, that's one thing we should mention right off the bat, I suppose.
[00:23:18]  In the second part of the program, we are going to be taking questions.
[00:23:22]  And one of the best things I think you can do, really, is ask the questions all in caps so they're easy for Olivia to catch because she's working a lot with the material that you have in there.
[00:23:34]  And she's going to select the questions that are most pertinent to the actual conversation.
[00:23:39]  So let's not go too off topic or start talking about chemtrails.
[00:23:43]  Tonight's not the night.
[00:23:44]  We're going to stick with the esoteric CERN and Alice in Wonderland.
[00:23:47]  Go ahead.
[00:23:49]  Yeah, it's a little, it's a Randy crew tonight.
[00:23:56]  Just a wee bit Randy.
[00:23:57]  Yes, well, you know, it's Friday and all, but we're going to get very, very focused now because we're going to need to be focused.
[00:24:06]  But, you know, Friday night brings out the best and the worst.
[00:24:10]  That's the way it goes.
[00:24:11]  But we always have the best here.
[00:24:13]  Now, one of the important things I do want to mention is also as far as questions go, you know, just ask the question, put it up there.
[00:24:23]  We'll grab it if it's pertinent to the show.
[00:24:26]  Don't worry about it.
[00:24:27]  Sometimes people get into this thing about asking the question over and over again.
[00:24:30]  And I love all the questions.
[00:24:32]  We do usually get to the vast majority, and sometimes we'll separate them out into different shows.
[00:24:37]  So if you've asked the question, you're looking good.

=== Orphic Circle Psychic Child (10:48) ===

[00:24:41]  But I appreciate all of them.
[00:24:42]  And you guys ask the best questions, I have to say.
[00:24:45]  So I'm definitely glad when it feels like everyone is following this story closely because it gives me an idea we can have this rapid porn interaction.
[00:24:57]  This rap or rap, or hey, that's John Rapapor.
[00:25:01]  But there is that kind of feeling with it where you know it's better when it's a full on conversation.
[00:25:11]  Let's take some indications of Alice Little being used as a psychic child in the Orphic Circle, just get some of the early photography that our friend did with her.
[00:25:27]  And she's a remarkable child.
[00:25:29]  And as an older woman, she spoke very fondly about Carol.
[00:25:33]  And, you know, people try to make up things about Carol that because he was such a sort of nevish character, because he was a mathematician and he didn't have great social skills.
[00:25:45]  And, but there's actually been nothing ever that's come out about Carol that showed that anything in his dealings with the little family and the whole, you know, the family and the girls.
[00:25:58]  That was inappropriate.
[00:25:59]  He seemed to be, in fact, somebody who had a real naturally high moral character.
[00:26:06]  And I have to say that what I got when I got a little bit deeper into Carroll was a much greater appreciation for him as a philosopher, as a mathematician.
[00:26:15]  He invented a number of games.
[00:26:17]  He's just a remarkable guy.
[00:26:19]  I guess instead of talking about him so much, we should show him.
[00:26:24]  But no doubt he was kind of like a Morrissey type of his day.
[00:26:28]  It's an emo quality to our friend Lewis Carroll.
[00:26:32]  And he was always making things up.
[00:26:36]  He came from a large family with seven sisters.
[00:26:38]  So he had a real kind of lock in with that feminine intuition, female intuition, female imagination.
[00:26:46]  And, you know, what I found about him is just how incredibly advanced he was in areas of psychic phenomena, in areas of the fourth dimension, and all the rest of it.
[00:26:58]  So later on, we have Alice Little.
[00:27:03]  And there's not much explanation for these pictures, but it looks to me like she's graduated from the Orphic Circle and she's on her way.
[00:27:11]  As I understand the Orphic Circle, when you are, they kind of send you off after a certain point, at least by the time you're 15.
[00:27:21]  And somehow they have isolated this period, this kind of five year period, where these women, these young women, were at their height of psychic ability.
[00:27:34]  And it's quite fascinating the way that they used, because what they do is they put them into these trances and they will channel these different entities and they'll channel these different.
[00:27:45]  Bits of information.
[00:27:46]  So sometimes the Orphic Circle would be used for, let's say, state secrets and, you know, it would be used for different types of circumstances.
[00:27:56]  But really, what we're getting at is they also would check out the nature of reality.
[00:28:01]  So they would channel in these beings and try to get to the history of mankind, the psychic abilities, you know, reincarnation.
[00:28:09]  All of these questions came up while dealing with the Orphic Circle.
[00:28:13]  At this point, again, more mystical images of Alice Little.
[00:28:19]  Now, Alice Little, there's a fun little piece of steganography in Alice Through the Looking Glass, which lets us know that it was, in fact, Alice Little, because there's a poem in there that I'm going to show before we're done, which, if you check out the letters down the side, it spells out Alice Pleasance Little, which is her name, and that's L I D D E L L.
[00:28:44]  Okay, a couple of interesting things to keep in mind before we get into the rabbit.
[00:28:49]  Oh, here's another.
[00:28:51]  Kind of Orphic Circle image of Alice.
[00:28:58]  And in this case, you know, the kind of Mystery School influence in the Orphic Circle is predominantly benevolent, but other groups will seek to manipulate this.
[00:29:13]  So you've got kind of good people and bad people inside of the Orphic Circle, and it's quite fascinating.
[00:29:20]  But whoever they are, they're all quite advanced, which is why I think in this period when you come out of it, You get exceptional people like Steiner, for example, who had an incredible sense of his mission for mankind.
[00:29:32]  But then on the other end of the spectrum, you get like Crowley, who's also touting the same type of information.
[00:29:40]  But his purposes are completely deep, and he's more kind of deep into that dark occult version of events.
[00:29:48]  So, you know, with the information, this was the danger that the mystery schools faced.
[00:29:55]  We understand all of this information on is what Rudolf Steiner gave us, which is that in 1840, the mystery schools came together and said, you know what?
[00:30:04]  We're looking at a dire situation because scientific materialism has been announced and it is rifling from Germany over to America and it's going to take over everything.
[00:30:15]  And they're going to size everything down to some kind of scientific formula, as they call scientism.
[00:30:21]  And these people won't know what hit them.
[00:30:23]  They're going to lose their religion, they're going to lose any sense of spirituality, and they're going to become slaves to this system which says, If it can't be measured, it isn't real.
[00:30:34]  So the mystery schools, which had taken a chance for so many years, you know, and really had been prosecuted and persecuted on the surface anytime that they came out, including the Rosicrucians when they came out in the 16th century, they decided, you know what, we need to release some of this information.
[00:30:55]  Well, some of them decided it was a good idea.
[00:30:57]  The rest of them were like, you know, we've been doing good with the secrecy for a while.
[00:30:59]  Let's not let this out.
[00:31:01]  How does that sound?
[00:31:02]  Let's say we don't do that.
[00:31:03]  We keep it to ourselves.
[00:31:04]  We help mankind on the sidelines and bring them along.
[00:31:07]  Well, according to Steiner, there were groups who just said, you know what, we're going to be toast if that scenario goes.
[00:31:13]  And in 100 years, we won't even recognize humanity.
[00:31:17]  So let's not do that.
[00:31:20]  Let's go in this other direction.
[00:31:22]  So there's a major clash there.
[00:31:25]  And the kind of trade off of the whole thing becomes Blavatsky.
[00:31:29]  But at first, they try out this different spiritualism.
[00:31:32]  They identify these people who have these abilities.
[00:31:35]  So I can tell that a piece of that from the research.
[00:31:41]  A piece of that is definitely the Orphic Circle.
[00:31:46]  The Orphic Circle is a major part of that, bringing that information forward.
[00:31:51]  But the problem is, some of the people in the Orphic Circle will become future prime ministers.
[00:31:56]  Even Bulwer Lytton was a member of British Parliament, and even though he was openly writing these books.
[00:32:03]  So, you know, we're looking at a scenario in a situation where they're getting all this psychic information and they need to keep it.
[00:32:11]  Completely secret and completely isolated.
[00:32:13]  So the Orphic Circle becomes sort of the depth of the clash of the mystery schools.
[00:32:21]  Half the group is in with the idea of secrecy, the other half wants to open this up to humanity, and it becomes quite a battle just inside that one group.
[00:32:31]  But like Emma is saying, they have to be incredibly secretive about the whole thing, especially about using the young women as psychic trance mediums.
[00:32:41]  Okay, so.
[00:32:44]  Part of the things I found interesting, I want to show this too, which is quite wild because, you know, this is a picture that our friend, Lewis Carroll, kept of Alice.
[00:33:00]  And it's obviously from a negative, but when he died, they found that.
[00:33:04]  And I found that quite interesting because this was her at that age of nine.
[00:33:09]  And there she is, kind of in this weird, mediumistic pose in the negative.
[00:33:16]  Quite fascinating.
[00:33:18]  One other interesting thing, which is that the actual, if some people have looked at Alice and said, well, she doesn't look like Alice in Wonderland or whatever, that's true.
[00:33:26]  They actually used this girl as the model for Alice in Wonderland, and she just became kind of the generic, you know, not generic, I should say the archetypal Alice mystery girl of the 19th century.
[00:33:42]  Now, what's interesting about all this is if we go back again to Emma Harding's relationship with the mystery schools as she described, We're looking at something quite fascinating because Alice is more of an archetype than any one individual.
[00:33:58]  But the archetype that we have information about, who came out of the Orphic Circle and talked about, is Emma Britton.
[00:34:05]  So when we bring up the idea that Emma Britton is Alice in Wonderland, it's actually true because she is the person who, after being with them three or four years and doing this transmedium work for them, really is this is barely a teenager.
[00:34:23]  She forms.
[00:34:24]  The kind of archetype for what they'll do.
[00:34:27]  And it wasn't just her.
[00:34:28]  So Alice is a group, but she certainly is the representative that we have here that we know about because she did something remarkable.
[00:34:39]  She came out of the Orphic Circle and shared that information, and nobody had ever done that.
[00:34:43]  The Orphic Circle was widely unknown, it was rumored, but no one knew what it was.
[00:34:48]  And even her responses about it are keeping a lot of things hidden, as in that Rosicrucian tradition.
[00:34:57]  But one of the things and the questions that I really have about the Orphic Circle is did the process itself and the information that was coming through become abused?
[00:35:06]  Because I think the information becomes dangerous, part of that dangerous clash between one side of the mystery schools, which are referred to in C.G. Harrison's work, who I think does a good job of tracking that battle as the left versus the right.

=== Super Chat Community Contribution (03:07) ===

[00:35:29]  And there's no political connotation there, just the left being a little more self serving, the right being, you know, adherence to higher goals, higher belief systems.
[00:35:42]  Okay, so let's talk a little bit about the rabbit symbolism there.
[00:35:47]  Now that we've established the, and I'm going to get deeper into the links of Carol with Theosophy and the Psychic Society for Psychical Research, but let's start off with the idea that, okay, he wrote a book.
[00:36:00]  In a long essay in four years before the Alice book came out, called All About the Fourth Dimension, basically.
[00:36:09]  And how are we doing over there, Miss Olivia?
[00:36:10]  We are doing great.
[00:36:12]  Fantastic.
[00:36:13]  They're asking about Super Chat.
[00:36:16]  Second time tonight.
[00:36:17]  I don't know if you want to address that right now.
[00:36:18]  I'm giving them links to the website.
[00:36:20]  Yeah, well, it's interesting.
[00:36:22]  There's a lot of things with Super Chat, and I think it's a good idea.
[00:36:29]  A large portion of what people contribute.
[00:36:33]  And I don't think, you know, it's enough for Google and YouTube to get all the viewers and all the shows that we do, and they provide a service to us, of course.
[00:36:42]  But I think at the point where they start, you know, doing a split, like I think, what do they take over 40% or something like that?
[00:36:48]  It just seems absurd to me.
[00:36:50]  I appreciate the idea.
[00:36:52]  And if people want to get behind the work that we're doing with the X series and with Dark Journalist, go directly to Dark Journalist.
[00:36:58]  There's a contribute button, there's a subscribe button.
[00:37:00]  If you subscribe, You know, you get the deeper aspects of the episodes, you get all the audio files, and you're going to get some very big surprises this summer.
[00:37:09]  And I think, what is it, $4 a month?
[00:37:11]  That's something that I think, you know, is good for you guys and also helps support the show and the things that we're doing.
[00:37:19]  Remember to sign up for the newsletter when you go to darkjournalist.com because that keeps us in touch.
[00:37:24]  Because very often the social media platforms are not reliable, as we've discovered, and as you've heard me say many times.
[00:37:30]  But the truth is, The only way that we can actually have that ongoing communication secured is if we have that ability to contact you in your inbox.
[00:37:41]  And the only thing that happens there is we send you an email once a week and you get an idea of what shows are coming up, who the guests are.
[00:37:49]  And if you're a subscriber, you get your login there and your login links and you're all set.
[00:37:54]  You're off and running.
[00:37:55]  So, you know, my big thing is getting behind.
[00:37:58]  And I had a conversation with Catherine Fitz about this today actually, because we're doing the show next week.
[00:38:04]  And You know, we were talking about it and how much it makes a difference when the people get behind the work that's going to help them, you know, the stuff that they do appreciate that brings the information.
[00:38:17]  And there's so many, and I'll mention them all before we're done here tonight, but there's so many people doing good work in alternative media that that is where I think we should put our major support.
[00:38:28]  And just getting behind them, you know, because it helps, it gives them the confidence to continue as well.
[00:38:36]  You think that answered the question, Olivia?

=== Colonel Fourth Dimension Article (13:23) ===

[00:38:37]  It did.
[00:38:37]  Can I throw out a kind of wild card question right now that I just caught?
[00:38:41]  Yes.
[00:38:42]  Okay.
[00:38:42]  William Climax, did Carol's Alice directly lead to Hugh Hefner's establishing Playboy via the CIA?
[00:38:50]  Well, you know, it's interesting because they felt the ability that they could manipulate all kinds of symbols at a certain point when you get into intelligence.
[00:38:59]  So there's no question about it.
[00:39:01]  I've never seen a direct correlation to that, but there you have your Playboy bunny, of course.
[00:39:06]  Let's talk about a different type of bunny here.
[00:39:08]  Great question.
[00:39:09]  Unbelievable.
[00:39:10]  My God.
[00:39:11]  There's so many bunnies going on tonight.
[00:39:13]  Unbelievable.
[00:39:16]  Okay.
[00:39:17]  Let's look.
[00:39:18]  Let's see how many of these show up, by the way.
[00:39:20]  I've been noticing that.
[00:39:23]  Oh, that's good.
[00:39:24]  Okay.
[00:39:24]  So you can all read that.
[00:39:26]  And what it reads, of course, the incredible, enigmatic rabbit in the Alice in Wonderland story comes forward and says, How long is forever?
[00:39:35]  And the answer is sometimes just one second.
[00:39:39]  It's very unusual.
[00:39:41]  You're feeling a little apothecary coming on?
[00:39:45]  It's a good reason.
[00:39:47]  Here's another one which is familiar to anyone.
[00:39:53]  That's it.
[00:39:53]  The hurrier I go, the behinder I get.
[00:39:58]  Huh.
[00:39:59]  It sounds like he can't go forward in time, no matter what he tries, but he's always late and he's always working on it.
[00:40:07]  So wherever he is, time doesn't work in a normal fashion.
[00:40:11]  That's one of the first things that she notices and kicks her off into this incredible journey.
[00:40:17]  Now, the rabbit hole and the rabbit is Rosicrucian imagery, and I'm going to show us all how that works.
[00:40:25]  But first,.
[00:40:32]  Let's just take a quick look just to get us in the vibe.
[00:40:36]  There's another apothecary effect that occurs in here.
[00:40:43]  And it is when she's talking to this hookah caterpillar, and she says, I knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then.
[00:40:52]  This is pretty interesting because let's think back to our friend Emma Britton here.
[00:41:00]  And Emma Britain, who is channeling at a very young age.
[00:41:04]  So when they bring in Alice as Emma Britain, and she says, I knew who I was this morning, but then I channeled a few people, and now I'm different.
[00:41:11]  Who am I now?
[00:41:12]  So, you know, and there's no doubt that's kind of a mystical figure there with the pipe and all the rest of it.
[00:41:18]  And we know that they would use different types of things to get the channel into, you know, the state to achieve these spiritual visions, to get the information, to get higher information, contact with higher worlds, to get.
[00:41:33]  This entire astral doorway completely open.
[00:41:39]  And what's fascinating is apparently in their research, what they figured out is that younger people, because their minds weren't so crammed and overloaded with adult junk, had the ability to open up better to these realms.
[00:41:53]  This is what the Orphic Circle, this is one of their big secrets.
[00:41:58]  But they had to be quiet about it and they had to basically.
[00:42:03]  Employ a lot of methods for that.
[00:42:05]  So, one of the things that Emma Britton talks about is how when she was younger, she was kept from having friends and she had a very unusual life.
[00:42:12]  She was kept away from the crowd.
[00:42:15]  And how many times does this come up when you're talking about sort of MKUltra situations or things of this nature?
[00:42:22]  It is true, you know, those situations happen and the kind of mind control situations like Kathy O'Brien.
[00:42:27]  So, you can see that as a kind of a misuse, as the upside down version of what they were doing here in the Orphic Circle.
[00:42:34]  But the same type of techniques.
[00:42:36]  Okay.
[00:42:37]  So we've got this kind of apotheum effect being mentioned in Alice in Wonderland.
[00:42:44]  So we're getting a little bit of a handle on that.
[00:42:49]  The original title of Alice in Wonderland was Alice's Adventures Underground.
[00:42:56]  Now, that's quite significant because Bulwer Lytton had written this book called The Power of Rill, The Coming Race.
[00:43:04]  And in it, of course, there's an underground civilization that gets contacted, and they're very unusual.
[00:43:10]  They have all these powers and abilities, and they're going to take over the people that are on the surface.
[00:43:15]  Now, that plays directly into Lewis Carroll's associations in the Orphic Circle.
[00:43:21]  And actually, You know, Bulwer Lytton had been doing books for years by the time Carroll came along, but he was very active in the same period.
[00:43:30]  And we know that Charles Darwin was also part of this group.
[00:43:34]  So once you're a great writer and identified, you're invited in, especially if you have the credentials, which Lewis Carroll did, if you think about it as being the librarian at Oxford and being this incredible mathematician and having this Rosicrucian background and being part of the Society for Psychical Research.
[00:43:55]  I mean, it's quite extraordinary.
[00:43:56]  And eventually he'll become a well known, sort of a deep adherent to theosophy.
[00:44:05]  And interestingly enough, it's AP Sennett who will introduce him to that.
[00:44:09]  And AP Sennett being one of the kind of hardcore, you know, the biggest and the baddest, coming out with esoteric Buddhism, which released all that information about the eighth sphere, which we did cover a couple of episodes ago.
[00:44:24]  And that's very important information because it was hidden, according to Steiner, and had to come out and set the record straight.
[00:44:33]  Okay, so I mentioned the fourth dimension there and how our friend Lewis Carroll had written about it and done essays on it before Alice in Wonderland.
[00:44:47]  And also, I found a whole group of mathematicians who studied Alice in Wonderland, and what they were looking for was these absolutely fascinating passages in there that all relate to different math problems.
[00:45:01]  So we can see that he's putting layers and layers of mysticism, mathematics, and all these other things inside of a very straight ahead children's story.
[00:45:13]  Okay, so in the Army Navy Journal in 1910, something quite interesting was revealed that relates to all this, which is there's an article called The Fourth Dimension Explained, and this very unusual, I'm going to get the name here, this unusual colonel.
[00:45:35]  Let me dig up his name.
[00:45:36]  Bear with me.
[00:45:40]  How are we doing there, Miss Olivia?
[00:45:41]  Good.
[00:45:42]  You want a quick question?
[00:45:43]  Yes.
[00:45:44]  A cult man wants to know Was Sennett the one who messed up the eighth sphere?
[00:45:49]  He is.
[00:45:50]  He's, I mean, he didn't single handedly mess up the eighth sphere, but what he did is he presented it the wrong way, saying that the eighth sphere was the moon, which is exactly what the Aramonic forces want people to believe.
[00:46:05]  So, in fact, What's going on there is Sennett thinks he's getting this information from a master the way that Blavatsky did, but there's a group kind of conjuring a version of lookalike on the astral plane.
[00:46:20]  So it gets quite something.
[00:46:23]  Colonel Graham Denby Fitch.
[00:46:28]  And Denby is D E N B Y.
[00:46:31]  And the last name is F I T C H. Colonel Graham Denby Fitch compiles a massive essay proving Alice in Wonderland.
[00:46:40]  Is penetration into the fourth dimension, and that Alice is the first person in hyperspace.
[00:46:49]  That's quite interesting, but what's more interesting, and this is the original article, I'm going to put this up so that everyone gets to review the document, and so we're going to make PDFs out of these in a little while.
[00:47:05]  But anyway, the article goes on to say, you know, Scientific American, it lists all these people, and then it goes into this stuff about Denby.
[00:47:16]  And it says Colonel Fitch's essay had the statement that it is the fourth dimension simply explained.
[00:47:22]  It can hardly be included under the heading of easy lessons for beginners.
[00:47:27]  In fact, the essay that he did on the fourth dimension is too long for any republication.
[00:47:32]  Well, how long is that?
[00:47:34]  What did he do, write 10,000 pages?
[00:47:37]  Quite unusual.
[00:47:39]  So it's too long for republications.
[00:47:41]  Only the people who heard it, I guess.
[00:47:43]  And his superiors.
[00:47:45]  By the way, this is 1910.
[00:47:46]  Okay.
[00:47:47]  Okay, the essay's too long.
[00:47:49]  It is not susceptible of condensation.
[00:47:52]  That is, you can't edit it down.
[00:47:54]  It's too extraordinary.
[00:47:55]  It has to be read all in one big piece.
[00:47:59]  It would indicate that Alice, whose adventures in Wonderland are so entertainingly described, as so entertainingly described by Lewis Carroll, must have entered into the fourth dimension or hyperspace, as Colonel Fitch would call it, when she passed through the mirror.
[00:48:15]  Of hyperspace, Colonel Fitch says, in hyperspace, a sphere is flexible, could without stretching or tearing be turned inside out.
[00:48:26]  Two rings of a chain could be separated without breakage.
[00:48:30]  Our knots would be useless.
[00:48:31]  Should I go on?
[00:48:32]  I think you get the idea.
[00:48:36]  But what's really fascinating, he goes on and on by basically indicating that.
[00:48:45]  The circumstances that are described that Alice is going through when she goes underground describe to a T the experiments they're doing about the fourth dimension and how she is the first traveler in this other dimension.
[00:48:57]  Now, if you understand the X part and how John Keeley, from the shows that we've done, and Keeley was an inventor like Nikola Tesla, if you understand that aspect, then you see that the thing that the mystery schools are protecting when we get into them protecting the technology around Keeley.
[00:49:16]  When we get into them handing down the information about Atlantis and not coming out with it until the 19th century, what we're seeing is that they're protecting the regular public from what corporate and the kind of ruling class would do with the information.
[00:49:35]  So they're preventing this information from falling into the wrong hands and it's getting to be a struggle.
[00:49:41]  This is the Mystery School War and why it's so important.
[00:49:46]  A quick thing there.
[00:49:47]  That is the cover of Zanoni, which is Bulwer Lytton's book.
[00:49:51]  And that is a picture of the Rosicrucian Invisible College.
[00:49:54]  You might hear that name bandied about once in a while because it's been bastardized over time.
[00:50:01]  But the Rosicrucians were the original ones who used it.
[00:50:04]  I'm going to get a real good look at that.
[00:50:08]  This thing always looked to me like a big air war taking place.
[00:50:12]  Another very interesting shot of Zanoni.
[00:50:17]  And that's him speaking to this angel that kind of gives him information.
[00:50:23]  So, very kind of Orphic Circle side, but he's the hero in all that.
[00:50:27]  Okay.
[00:50:29]  Bulwer Lytton, just a quick synopsis on him 1803 1873.
[00:50:35]  So he's in that kind of crucial period.
[00:50:39]  And he'll die about 10 years after Alice in Wonderland is put out.
[00:50:44]  But he's doing the work with Emma Britton that takes place around 1840, somewhere in there.
[00:50:51]  And he also, you know, he was a politician, he was a poet, he was a playwright.
[00:50:58]  And he brought these ideas of the Rosicrucians to the public and the whole idea of Vril and all these secrets that related to.
[00:51:09]  Different occult schools, he brought this information out.
[00:51:11]  So the esoteric information flowed from him and people like Steiner and Blavatsky, who we consider now, you know, as the kind of top line from the mystery schools that came out and created these public mystery schools with theosophy and anthroposophy.
[00:51:30]  They're saying that basically Bulwer Lytton's a high adept and that he's coming out working with these groups to get this information around later.
[00:51:41]  You know, the Nazis and stuff would use the idea of real and try to incorporate it into their work.
[00:51:46]  And so there was some bastardizing of these things.
[00:51:49]  And it just so happens that these groups get a handle on it.
[00:51:53]  Okay, that's kind of a nice twist for us on Bulwer Lytton.
[00:51:58]  Okay, the rabbit.

=== Rabbit Symbolism and Disguise (15:12) ===

[00:52:01]  The rabbit, the rabbit, the rabbit.
[00:52:02]  Becky Smith has the right idea up there.
[00:52:06]  The point of the rabbit gets deep.
[00:52:11]  But if we're going to understand the rabbit, we have to understand the Rosicrucian rituals that are associated with the rabbit, something called the Hunt of Jupiter, which is very obscure.
[00:52:23]  You have to dig deep and find it in Latin texts and things of this nature.
[00:52:27]  I mean, very unusual pieces of information there.
[00:52:32]  Let's take a look at something called the Three Hairs.
[00:52:38]  The Three Hairs legend goes across the world.
[00:52:44]  China, Iran, Egypt, Germany, England.
[00:52:52]  One of the most recent studies I found on it, they found over 20 churches in Devon which had this three hairs.
[00:53:03]  Let's take a look at the three hairs because it's the key to the Alice story.
[00:53:09]  Okay, here's the Egyptian version.
[00:53:15]  We can see that each one of them has two ears, but there's three ears there.
[00:53:21]  They're all connected.
[00:53:22]  So there's three of them, and they're all connected.
[00:53:26]  Let's go a little further with this.
[00:53:28]  This is where it's going to get fun.
[00:53:29]  I have a page of quotes here somewhere.
[00:53:32]  Olivia, did I leave the quotes page?
[00:53:35]  No, no.
[00:53:35]  Okay.
[00:53:36]  Okay.
[00:53:36]  Actually, this is it.
[00:53:37]  I know you had too many things to print out tonight.
[00:53:41]  It's the way I like it.
[00:53:42]  It's the way I like it, after all.
[00:53:45]  Today was as mad as a hatter.
[00:53:46]  What can you do?
[00:53:50]  Boy, there's some great stuff here, but no.
[00:53:53]  Let's see.
[00:53:55]  The three hairs.
[00:53:57]  Okay.
[00:53:59]  Here's the legend, the little poem that goes with the three hairs.
[00:54:02]  Three hairs sharing three ears, yet every one of them has two.
[00:54:08]  But it is something to one who does it.
[00:54:11]  This is one of these strange nursery rhymes associated with it.
[00:54:15]  Turn and turn again, and we will also turn, so that we give pleasure to each of you.
[00:54:23]  And when we have turned, count our ears.
[00:54:27]  Is there without any disguise?
[00:54:30]  It is there without any disguise.
[00:54:32]  You will find a marvel.
[00:54:34]  Let's do it again.
[00:54:36]  But it is something to one who does it.
[00:54:38]  Turn and turn again, and we will also turn, so that we give pleasure to each of you.
[00:54:45]  And when we have turned, count our ears.
[00:54:49]  It is there, without any disguise, you will find a marvel.
[00:54:55]  One last time.
[00:54:57]  But it is something to one who does it.
[00:55:00]  Turn and turn again, and we will also turn.
[00:55:05]  So that we give pleasure to each of you.
[00:55:08]  And when we have turned, count our ears, it is there.
[00:55:11]  Without any disguise, you will find a marvel.
[00:55:16]  Okay.
[00:55:18]  Let's look at these rabbits, these hares, I should say.
[00:55:24]  Well, there's the real root.
[00:55:31]  This church, let's see if we can get a good look at this.
[00:55:35]  We have this symbol.
[00:55:38]  This is the triskelion, and throughout churches in Europe that are older, you're going to find this.
[00:55:48]  The triskelion is, in fact, this exact same image, but in some cultures, they're going to incorporate this rabbit.
[00:55:57]  But over and over again, they'll incorporate the rabbit.
[00:55:59]  Let's find out why.
[00:56:01]  Okay, here's another version.
[00:56:02]  This is the Celt triskelion, which really is the root of a lot of this tradition.
[00:56:08]  They're the ones.
[00:56:09]  Inside of their mystery schools, that we tied it over.
[00:56:11]  They say it's a symbol for fire, but unfortunately, historians don't know very much about the Celts.
[00:56:17]  So occasionally they're like, you know, they'll throw something out like, well, we think it's part of their hunting ritual or something ridiculous like that.
[00:56:25]  No, it has nothing to do with hunting.
[00:56:27]  Okay.
[00:56:28]  Let's find the rabbits, the hares, the three hares right here with the X's in this very interesting ancient monastery in England.
[00:56:43]  And you will find them in stained glass throughout, accompanied by these X's.
[00:56:50]  Giving us an idea again.
[00:56:52]  And remember, it's three hairs sharing three ears, yet every one of them has two.
[00:56:58]  Here's a little bit more.
[00:57:00]  Again, these hairs.
[00:57:04]  Are we getting this?
[00:57:06]  Here's some runes here that go with it.
[00:57:07]  Of course, we have the double X's here and something that is almost a swastika, a sun image, but a little bit different.
[00:57:20]  By the way, upon deep, deep, deep research and reflection on this, you will find that nobody knows anything about these rabbits.
[00:57:30]  The three hairs symbolism is a complete mystery to everyone who studies it.
[00:57:34]  No one knows what it means.
[00:57:36]  Some people, they've tried to rope it in because we see it in certain church traditions with the Holy Trinity and things of this nature.
[00:57:44]  But it was around, as we'll find out before that.
[00:57:47]  So, we're looking at something that is quite compelling.
[00:57:50]  Let's take a deeper look at some of these.
[00:57:53]  This one, ancient Germany, inside of an X again.
[00:58:01]  Always touching.
[00:58:03]  So, as we go along here, we're noticing that the rabbit, the white rabbit, becomes a symbol very often with these different medieval manuscripts.
[00:58:14]  There's one from the 13th century that was kind of compelling.
[00:58:18]  So, I put it out here just to give us an idea.
[00:58:21]  And the rabbits are showing up as a mystical symbol all over the place, but no one seems to know what they mean except the people who are drawing them because there's no record behind left of what they are.
[00:58:33]  Let's move a little bit further.
[00:58:35]  Here's a rabbit who is performing resurrection.
[00:58:40]  Okay.
[00:58:42]  Let's get a little bit more into the idea of the esoteric meanings behind it.
[00:58:46]  I got a lot of images tonight, so I'm going to keep rolling, and you will have the ability to rewind.
[00:58:51]  You're going to need to.
[00:58:52]  But I'm going to supply a lot of images with this.
[00:58:56]  Okay, the Rosicrucians have a tradition where that was largely secret and still very little is unknown about it.
[00:59:05]  And I have the description of what it is, but first I'm going to show it to you and then we're going to describe what it is.
[00:59:14]  This is one of their main rituals where the original kind of teacher and the neophyte get brought into what they call the seven worlds.
[00:59:25]  Let's take a look at this.
[00:59:27]  Down here, We'll take a good look.
[00:59:31]  We can see these rabbits, and they are, in fact, running into these rabbit holes.
[00:59:38]  See them there?
[00:59:39]  That's the rabbit hole.
[00:59:40]  There they are.
[00:59:41]  The core of the Rosicrucian tradition, and the student in this case is blindfolded over here.
[00:59:53]  They're bringing them into the mysteries, but they have to go through this process.
[00:59:55]  And let me tell you, it is an incredible process, and it brings in aspects of astrology.
[01:00:01]  And kind of yogi magic, you know, sort of walking on nails type stuff.
[01:00:07]  So, but it brings in the understanding of the elements and the understanding of resurrection, all these different aspects.
[01:00:16]  The rabbit hole imagery comes down to us from the Rosicrucian tradition.
[01:00:22]  The Rosicrucian, Lewis Carroll, is using it to bring us into this idea, this reality around Alice in Wonderland.
[01:00:31]  Okay, and then.
[01:00:33]  Just to show how far flung this tradition goes, this is a white rabbit in China mixing up the immortal elixir.
[01:00:44]  And some of you might be familiar with the rabbit on the moon, which is quite remarkable.
[01:00:52]  But these rabbits having mystical, magical qualities, I think it's quite an important way for us to look at it.
[01:00:59]  The symbol stripped, as we showed it previously, this.
[01:01:08]  That would be it there.
[01:01:09]  And that again comes from the Celts.
[01:01:14]  Sometimes they assume that it's fire when they're looking at this.
[01:01:19]  Other times they assume that it's related to fertility and things of that nature.
[01:01:25]  But again, whenever they've gone back and looked at these nature religions or if they've looked at the agricultural religions and a lot of the pagan stuff, they're always looking for that fertility thing, but understanding it in this very one dimensional.
[01:01:40]  Way, which is, oh, hey, they want a good crop this season.
[01:01:42]  That's enough for them.
[01:01:44]  When in fact, people in that era looked at things on a number of levels and had deep, I mean, just look at Stonehenge.
[01:01:51]  You know, they're not building Stonehenge just to get good crops.
[01:01:55]  It's a magical function, and that's a kind of very advanced technology.
[01:01:59]  So it's something that we need to look at in the right way if we're going to get a handle on what they were doing with it.
[01:02:05]  And just one last thing on the symbol it does turn up here.
[01:02:15]  As these three legs going down, sometimes it shows up as a gorgon where the snakes are the hare.
[01:02:25]  So, quite remarkable.
[01:02:28]  This is the passing down of the mystery school knowledge.
[01:02:36]  And what happens when we're looking at the rabbits is.
[01:02:42]  They are there interacting the nature of reality, which is why they're always turning, just like the planet is revolving and all the rest of it.
[01:02:50]  There's a deep, deep symbolism in it.
[01:02:53]  And in order to get a handle on it, you have to literally come into a mystery school and understand it in depth.
[01:03:02]  It's a mystery school symbol.
[01:03:04]  But one of the things that we can say about it, and one of the handles that we get on it, is that the rabbits are representing an alternate reality.
[01:03:15]  So, when we get into Alice in Wonderland and the rabbit's relationship to time, he is the main instigator of all the events when you get right down to it, because without him, nothing ever happens.
[01:03:28]  So, later, you know, as time goes on and we do Alice through the Looking Glass, we get a kind of a deeper look at what that aspect was all about.
[01:03:36]  How are we doing over there, Missile?
[01:03:38]  We are doing great.
[01:03:39]  I'm having a hard time keeping up.
[01:03:43]  Well, Olivia, you.
[01:03:44]  Are you going to go over that rabbit on the moon thing?
[01:03:47]  You kind of mentioned it, then you dropped it.
[01:03:50]  Well, I think the rabbits that we're most concerned with tonight are going to be related to that.
[01:03:55]  But I agree with you.
[01:03:56]  It's an important thing to bring up.
[01:03:59]  And so, again, it's great that everyone is here.
[01:04:03]  You're watching Dark Journalists, and we're going deep into the ex steganography through the symbol of these rabbits, who again connect in this very unusual way, as we've seen.
[01:04:16]  And there's always three of them, and they're always.
[01:04:20]  Turning in this triskelion.
[01:04:23]  Okay.
[01:04:28]  Where was Lewis Carroll coming from?
[01:04:30]  By the way, Alice Little would eventually name one of her children Carroll with two R's, like Lewis Carroll.
[01:04:40]  So we get some idea of the kind of link that those two had later in life.
[01:04:48]  Carroll writes in the intro to a later novel called Sylvie and Bruno Concluded, quote, It may interest some of my readers to know the theory on which the story is constructed.
[01:04:59]  I have supposed a human being to be capable of various psychical states within varying degrees of consciousness.
[01:05:09]  So let's take some of the quotes now directly out of Alice and Alice through the Looking Glass.
[01:05:14]  If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense.
[01:05:17]  Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't.
[01:05:21]  And the contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be.
[01:05:23]  And what it wouldn't be, it would, you see.
[01:05:27]  There's definitely a mathematical function in there, but they are describing something.
[01:05:34]  So at one point, she encounters the March Hare.
[01:05:36]  And this is interesting, actually, because the March Hare seems to be saying these things in relation to the Mad Hatter and time that I find quite unique.
[01:05:47]  And I want to just touch on them briefly here.
[01:05:51]  And if you are just joining us, yes, this show is about Alice in Wonderland and the deeper connection she has to the ex steganography and the information from the mystery schools.
[01:06:02]  It is related to CERN, and we're going to get into the CERN Alice aspect here just shortly.
[01:06:07]  How are we doing on time?
[01:06:09]  We've got.
[01:06:11]  Okay, yeah, we've got plenty of time.
[01:06:16]  Okay, so she runs into the March Hare and takes some more tea, the March Hare said to Alice very earnestly.
[01:06:23]  He wants her to have that tea.
[01:06:25]  I've had nothing yet, Alice replied in an offended tone, so I can't take more.
[01:06:29]  Yeah, what are you talking about?
[01:06:32]  He said, Well, you can't, you mean you can't take less? said the Hatter.
[01:06:37]  It's very easy to take more than nothing.
[01:06:42]  So, we're getting formulas here about the nature of the reality.
[01:06:48]  Wherever they are, this apothecary effect that I've described is completely active.
[01:06:54]  So, there's no way to control it with the normal physics that we engage in on a day to day basis.
[01:07:03]  In Through the Looking Glass, we find the Red Queen, and she's saying to Alice, Faster, faster.
[01:07:11]  And Alice runs.

=== Red Queen Faster Faster Run (09:33) ===

[01:07:13]  You know, they're running along, and what happens is that the trees and other things around them don't change places.
[01:07:21]  They're remaining the same.
[01:07:23]  And so, the line in when people look at this, you have researchers who look at some of these things and they say, however fast they went, they never seem to pass anything.
[01:07:32]  And they're thinking about it like, huh, that's an interesting little, you know, alternate world scenario.
[01:07:38]  But it does suggest a different quality.
[01:07:41]  Again, it's a reality distortion from the physical world.
[01:07:44]  And it's why this unusual kernel said she's in the fourth dimension in hyperspace.
[01:07:51]  Because if you really look deeply at what's happening with her, beyond the imagination, if you really just look at it in terms of a set of actions and reactions, she's in a world where physical force doesn't apply, right?
[01:08:08]  If you try to run fast, nothing changes.
[01:08:12]  I wonder if all the things move along with us.
[01:08:16]  Alice, thanks.
[01:08:17]  Also, if you look at some of the interpretations, people try to zero in on the fact that the Mad Hatter is over and over again comes up in relation to time, like the rabbit does.
[01:08:33]  One of these is the Hatter says it's always six o'clock now, it's always six o'clock now.
[01:08:44]  And there's another interesting segment where the March Hare. Is saying to Alice, Well, yeah, it is always tea time.
[01:08:52]  You know, that's the way it goes around here because the Mad Hatter has killed time.
[01:08:59]  I haven't been able to find out if that's where the term killing time comes from, but I found it quite fascinating.
[01:09:03]  So the Mad Hatter has killed time.
[01:09:06]  The rabbit is always out of time.
[01:09:10]  And in this effect that's going on, which I'm referring to as apotheum, the quality of time changes.
[01:09:20]  As a matter of fact, sometimes forever is one second.
[01:09:24]  So, when we look at it from this perspective, we're getting the whole missing time UFO file thing is coming back to me.
[01:09:32]  I'm thinking of contactees who get into these incredible states and they're like, oh, you know, like Travis Walton is gone for a week and he said, oh, I thought it was an hour.
[01:09:42]  Betty and Barney Hill, you know, they go through these incredible experiences and then they're back on the road and they don't remember what happened to them.
[01:09:49]  I think that we're getting the idea from the mystery school treatment of this that whatever it is.
[01:09:58]  That relates to the UFO file seems to produce this effect that they're referring to in these mystery school texts or in the imaginative literature based on the mystery school knowledge.
[01:10:09]  So let's put it that way.
[01:10:10]  Okay, a couple more.
[01:10:14]  The opening poem to Alice in Wonderland, which I think part of this is worth really paying attention to.
[01:10:20]  All in the Golden Afternoon gives us an idea of the Orphic Circle and the mystery school aspects of Alice.
[01:10:26]  And again, I'm putting Emma Britton in the Alice seat because if we go back and really study Emma, we can see the work she was doing is what they had Alice doing.
[01:10:41]  All in the golden afternoon, full leisurely we glide, for both our oars with little skill by little arms are plied, while little hands make vain pretense our wanderings to guide.
[01:10:52]  Okay, it's kind of a sing song y type thing.
[01:10:55]  Ah, cruel three, in such an hour, beneath such dreamy weather, to beg the tale of breath too weak to stir the tiniest feather, yet can one poor voice avail against three tongues together?
[01:11:09]  This is getting at that thing where the Girls, the little sisters would say, Give us another story.
[01:11:14]  And he was apparently incredible at telling them the stories, which is where so much of his ability to do the Alice stories came from, connecting with their kind of childlike fascinations and fantasy.
[01:11:28]  What's interesting, though, is if we interpret it just a little bit deeper and see this as they're kind of his own personal Orphic circle, these three little sisters.
[01:11:39]  Let's go further.
[01:11:42]  Anon to sudden silence, one, I'm moving down.
[01:11:45]  In fancy, they pursue the dream child moving through a land of wonders wild and new in friendly chat with bird or beast and half believe it's true.
[01:11:57]  So he's getting into this dream child idea, this idea that they're getting special information when they're in this dreamlike state.
[01:12:05]  And ever as the story drained the wells of fancy dry and faintly strove the weary one to put the subject by, the rest next time, it is next time, the happy voices cry.
[01:12:15]  They really want the story.
[01:12:16]  Thus grew the tale of wonderland.
[01:12:18]  Thus, slowly one by one, its quaint events were hammered out, and now the tale is done.
[01:12:23]  And home we steer a merry crew beneath the setting sun.
[01:12:28]  Alice, a childish story take with a gentle hand, lay it where childhood's dreams are twined in memory's mystic band, like pilgrims' withered wreath of flowers plucked in far off land.
[01:12:43]  So, there's a lot in that poem.
[01:12:45]  I think he's telling us, he's giving us that impression that this stuff is.
[01:12:50]  On a different level, and if you can tune into that level, you're kind of going deep into the place where Alice goes.
[01:13:01]  I did promise you this one.
[01:13:02]  Let's see if it shows up.
[01:13:03]  This is a boat beneath the sunny sky from Alice through the looking glass.
[01:13:06]  Here's his version of steganography, okay?
[01:13:08]  Because it's in plain sight, but we don't know it's a puzzle until you read it.
[01:13:12]  So all the letters over here, and it's a boat beneath the sunny sky lingering onward dreamily in an evening of July.
[01:13:19]  We have July coming up right here in a few weeks.
[01:13:22]  But if you look at the letters on the side, they spell out Alice Pleasance Little.
[01:13:28]  So we understand which Alice he is referring to.
[01:13:32]  I think that's pretty significant, actually.
[01:13:34]  That gives us the key to Alice.
[01:13:39]  The next part, before we go into CERN, there's one other thing I want to get to on here, which is this idea and the presence of the Orphic Circle.
[01:13:52]  Using these young women in order to obtain this higher information, this higher knowledge.
[01:13:59]  And, you know, from their point of view, in a benevolent fashion, and also, you know, investing in them.
[01:14:08]  Because, like in Emma Britton's case, they teach her how to be an incredible musician while they're doing this, you know.
[01:14:13]  So they're taking the time and investing it.
[01:14:14]  It's not that she's being dragged to some terrible place and made to perform trance functions.
[01:14:22]  But it is interesting the secrecy that they guide her around with.
[01:14:25]  They definitely don't want their activities being known.
[01:14:27]  Let's look at a few good examples of this.
[01:14:33]  The Wizard of Oz, of course, written by a theosophist, as you may know.
[01:14:39]  Here we have kind of the good aspect of the Orphic Circle and the evil side of the Orphic Circle.
[01:14:50]  They're both looking for her magic, which in this case are the slippers, but it is quite fascinating when we look at Dorothy because both sides want her.
[01:15:02]  The good witch wants her to do her thing, and she is kind of encouraging her to be a flip and not to give the, you know, she's giving her the good instructions don't give the sandals to the ruby slippers to the wicked witch.
[01:15:16]  And we know that's one of your favorite scenes, Olivia.
[01:15:22]  And, you know, it's kind of something when we look at it, we're getting an idea here of this message pervade through entertainment, you know, Alice in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz.
[01:15:35]  What's interesting is Alice in Wonderland is the first female lead of a young female lead in any of the children's books.
[01:15:42]  So it's quite a breakthrough in that sense.
[01:15:46]  And the Wicked Witch will pull out at a certain point in The Wizard of Oz this incredible.
[01:15:53]  She pulls out a couple of references to time, but at a certain point she's got the hourglass out.
[01:15:57]  She says, when the hourglass fills out, you're going to be finished.
[01:16:04]  Has its own deep qualities, and a lot of you have seen it.
[01:16:07]  Of course, as Bowie is the goblin king doing a great job, but he's got 13 o'clock there in the background as he's trying to get Sarah to basically become join him, join and become part of this kind of special magic kingdom that he's running.
[01:16:23]  These are all the references that are running through it, but they come out of this Orphic Circle idea.
[01:16:29]  Let's go a little bit further with that when he gets her, of course, into this.
[01:16:34]  Trance, basically, it's what he's looking to do.
[01:16:38]  Um, Linda Blair and the Exorcist, one of the most incredible movies.

=== Rosicrucians Source for Alice (06:07) ===

[01:16:47]  But here we can see again this process is being turned upside down, so you could have these incredible forces being channeled through these, you know, students that were prepared and young, and they could achieve this information through the Orphic Circle, but also.
[01:17:07]  In things like The Exorcist, which was based on a real story, we see that that process can be reversed and that there's a vulnerability associated with it, and that evil can come through in that sense.
[01:17:17]  So, the kind of evil end of that mystery school, the more secret society end of the mystery school side, can come in and sweep through using the same type of technique of knowing that at this particular age they have the ability to reach out psychically.
[01:17:33]  So, there's safeguards that need to be built in there when you do it.
[01:17:38]  These are the messages of a lot of it.
[01:17:40]  Now, let's see a couple of things.
[01:17:48]  One is in relation to this, there was a couple of odd things.
[01:17:57]  One of them is that the Rosicrucian initiation setting always shows up with this Mercury, which represents Hermes at that period.
[01:18:09]  Now, this is going to be enough for a different episode, but anyway, suffice to say, Hermes, the messenger of the gods associated with building the Great Pyramid, You know, the incredible knowledge of Hermes brought down to us.
[01:18:24]  That's where we get Hermetic, you know, the Hermetic tradition of these hidden kind of techniques, this hidden knowledge, this hidden history, and all the rest of it.
[01:18:36]  So there's a character named Basil Valentine who was around in 1600 and who came out of the blue with this gift of these 12 plates.
[01:18:50]  Now, I didn't publish all the plates here, but just to get an idea of what they were doing, he's deep in the Rosicrucian Brotherhood.
[01:18:59]  When his stuff gets put out, they always dedicate it to the Rosy Cross, the Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross.
[01:19:05]  But what I noticed was when we got to his X plate here, which had some Kabbalah style writing to it, but that's interestingly enough, even though that's Hebrew, the letters and the words aren't anything that can be deciphered.
[01:19:24]  Here we see that again, that Mercury shows up.
[01:19:28]  And it's something that we have to keep in mind that when we're dealing with the Rosicrucians, who become the major source for Alice in Wonderland, who become the major source for the Orphic Circle, and who are really one of the major sources for anthroposophy, and Steiner saying that, yeah, Christian Rosencruz, who put together the Rosie Cross, that's a deep Western tradition, mystery school, the kind of a Christian esoteric.
[01:19:58]  Mystery school with some of the deepest knowledge, and that's where we get the legends of things like the Great White Brotherhood and these masters existing in these schools.
[01:20:07]  The Rosicrucians are deep in it.
[01:20:10]  Um, now we've touched on the Rosicrucians, one of these shows is going to do a whole thing on the Rosicrucians.
[01:20:15]  One of the things I want to point out before we get out of the images is this incredible embodiment of the position of humanity, and of course, it's right in the center of this massive X, and you have the globe.
[01:20:29]  Surrounding the individual, and something representing light and the sun.
[01:20:35]  So, we're getting these messages brought over to us that in these mystery schools, they have a tradition, which is they understand the sacred symbolism and they let it out at different times.
[01:20:51]  But when we get it, we have different ways of interpreting it.
[01:20:56]  And there are also lots of ways and means to abuse it.
[01:21:03]  Oh, I wanted to show this before we left off.
[01:21:05]  That is from Lewis Carroll's original take on Alice in Wonderland.
[01:21:12]  And there he was.
[01:21:14]  That was his version of Alice there in the book and the early version of it.
[01:21:20]  At the time, he wound up writing a book and an essay on the fourth dimension and later got back to this.
[01:21:27]  Interestingly enough, and I haven't figured out the significance of this yet, but I'm working on it.
[01:21:33]  Which is that July 4th was when he started the book, and that's when he credits this incredible boat ride with the Little Sisters as giving him the idea for Alice in Wonderland.
[01:21:44]  And three years later, on July 4th, he would publish the book.
[01:21:46]  So, there's something quite remarkable about that, seeing as that's the birth date of America, which is also tied in with that Masonic Rosicrucian tradition.
[01:21:54]  Okay, these, hang on there, let's look at this.
[01:22:02]  Okay, now we're going to jump ahead from the 19th into the 20th century.
[01:22:09]  Do you remember these guys?
[01:22:12]  Our friends, the Varian brothers.
[01:22:15]  The Varian brothers invent something called the Clystron, but the Varian brothers came out of the Halcyon.
[01:22:21]  Temple, which was the height of this breakaway theosophical group that Annie Besant had inspired, and John Varian, who was the top Irish theosophist, had founded in California.
[01:22:37]  These guys, along with Fred Terman, go on to found Silicon Valley, but before that, interestingly enough, they will be part of the Rad Lab, which engages in all this work on the X technology to help.

=== CERN Analysis Inner Space (09:52) ===

[01:22:54]  us win World War II in America.
[01:22:57]  Okay, they were referring in their work to the particle accelerator in 1939.
[01:23:03]  They're actually marketing one.
[01:23:05]  Now we're going to move into ALICE, which is the CERN project, a different collider called ALICE, A L I C E. There's a look at it.
[01:23:20]  And what ALICE is supposed to do is take us into a different kind of understanding of reality.
[01:23:26]  Now, Before we get too far ahead of ourselves on Alice, this is CERN's description from the New York Times.
[01:23:41]  Crashing together in the bowels of Atlas and similar contraptions spaced around the ring, the particles will produce tiny fireballs of primordial energy, recreating conditions that last prevailed when the universe was less than a trillionth of a second old.
[01:23:54]  Livy and I were watching a special where they brought in this whole thing about how the Alice. Collider, which is in France, is taking the signal from CERN and it is creating the hottest and the coldest condition anywhere.
[01:24:16]  That is hotter than the sun, colder than deep space.
[01:24:20]  You think CERN is a normal scientific project after hearing that?
[01:24:23]  It's quite unusual.
[01:24:26]  And there's reasons for that.
[01:24:29]  Before we go any further with this, too, I want to remind everybody to go to darkjournalist.com.
[01:24:35]  And sign up for the newsletter so that we're staying up to date and in touch.
[01:24:38]  And Olivia, I want to check in with you.
[01:24:41]  How are we doing over there?
[01:24:42]  Did the rowdiness subside or what?
[01:24:44]  Yes, randiness.
[01:24:45]  And yes, everybody's a little bit better behaved and really trying to focus and listen.
[01:24:51]  Excellent.
[01:24:52]  They are adding a lot of great questions and great information that they have too.
[01:24:58]  Well, that's great.
[01:24:59]  We have fantastic people.
[01:25:01]  Daniel Natal is out there, Lee Veltman.
[01:25:05]  It's great to see you guys.
[01:25:05]  Josh Randall, David Donaway, Erica McLaughlin.
[01:25:11]  Gang's all here.
[01:25:12]  That's good.
[01:25:15]  You're watching Dark Journalist, and this is the X series, part 15, deals with the X steganography.
[01:25:21]  One of the things that we're trying to do is figure out what the X has been an emblem of all these years through the mystery schools and then later in secret government projects relating to black projects predominantly, and where it sits now because.
[01:25:38]  All of this information leads us up to the present.
[01:25:42]  But if we can get a grasp, some kind of a handle going on what was happening there in the past, everything else is going to make a whole lot of sense.
[01:25:49]  Okay.
[01:25:50]  I just want to say Joseph is here.
[01:25:53]  Hey, Joseph.
[01:25:55]  It's great to have you out there.
[01:25:57]  And of course, Dr. Farrell's work is great inspiration.
[01:26:01]  And I can't wait to find out what that new book is.
[01:26:04]  I'm waiting for information to filter down and filter down.
[01:26:08]  So he's going to give us a clue, I can tell.
[01:26:12]  But thanks for telling me.
[01:26:16]  Okay, so back to the New York Times article.
[01:26:18]  This is relating to CERN analysis.
[01:26:20]  Whatever forms of matter and whatever law and forces held sway back then, relics not seen in this part of space since the universe cooled 14 billion years ago, will spring fleetingly to life over and over again in all their possible variations as if the universe were enacting its own version of the Groundhog Day movie.
[01:26:41]  Now, do you notice this is quite interesting because.
[01:26:45]  In Alice in Wonderland, we're having that whole effect take place, the apothecary effect, where it's always six o'clock and the rabbit's always late and they can never get a handle.
[01:26:55]  And when she's running with the Red Queen, they're not getting anywhere.
[01:26:58]  When I mentioned Groundhog Day, I was interested in that because I was thinking about the eternal recurrence theories that Nietzsche had and Espensky picked up on, because there is a book that spins out of that, which is called The Strange Life of Ivan Ossikin.
[01:27:15]  And What is fascinating about that is that also has this quality of it.
[01:27:21]  And in that case, every time he gets to a certain point in his life, he goes back to when he was in high school and the whole thing happens all over again.
[01:27:29]  So Groundhog Day is a take on that.
[01:27:31]  But I do think it's interesting they mentioned it here.
[01:27:33]  Okay, if all goes well, they will leave their footprints in mountains of hardware and computer memory.
[01:27:39]  Quote, We're now on the end game, said Lynn Evans of CERN, who's been in charge of the Large Hadron Collider, as it is called, since its inception.
[01:27:48]  Call it the Hubble Telescope of Inner Space.
[01:27:53]  Inner space, this is very interesting.
[01:27:56]  So, everything about the collider sounds well large from the 14 trillion electron volts of energy with which it will smash together protons, its cast of thousands, and the $8 billion it cost to build.
[01:28:12]  That's no kind of lightweight project.
[01:28:17]  I mean, you think of that's pretty hardcore money.
[01:28:24]  To the 128 tons of liquid helium needed to cool the superconducting magnets that keep the particles whizzing around their track in the 3 million DVDs worth of data it will spew forth every year.
[01:28:36]  One of the things that Dr. Farrell pointed out in an episode we did on CERN, which is my favorite CERN description, and it's CERN Apotheosis.
[01:28:45]  It's back there on the channel, and you can find it on the Dark Journal's website, is that CERN is one of the biggest users, if not the biggest user, of the internet.
[01:28:57]  Every time they do those particle experiments, they're sending out this information over to these different kind of redundant scientific institutions, and everybody's taking a crack at it.
[01:29:09]  But in looking at this Alice, it's quite interesting because their description of it on their own site now, so we don't have to guess.
[01:29:20]  And here are their own allusions about Alice and Alice in Wonderland.
[01:29:24]  Welcome to Alice, a journey to the beginning of the universe.
[01:29:28]  ALICE is the acronym for A Large Ion Collider Experiment, one of the largest experiments in the world devoted to the research and physics of matter on an infinitely small scale.
[01:29:40]  Hosted at CERN, the European Laboratory for Nuclear Research, again, let's remember that it's nuclear research they're doing there.
[01:29:47]  This project involves an international collaboration of more than 1,500 physicists, engineers, and technicians, including the 350 graduate students, and so on.
[01:29:57]  The ALICE experiment is going to search for answers to fundamental questions using the extraordinary tools provided by the Large Hadron Collider, which, remember, the Clystron was created by the Varian brothers who came out of Theosophy.
[01:30:09]  The Clystron and the particle accelerator that they created in 1939 became the foundation for CERN, according to their own documents.
[01:30:20]  I mean, that's what CERN says.
[01:30:23]  Although they don't cite the Varians, they cite the technology.
[01:30:27]  Okay, quarks, protons, and so on.
[01:30:30]  I want to get to the naming aspects here.
[01:30:32]  Just bear with me.
[01:30:34]  Oh, here we go.
[01:30:37]  Detailed experiments.
[01:30:38]  It also offers an insight into the scientific community gathered around this project and highlights its contributions to the advancement of our understanding of the universe.
[01:30:46]  So, no matter what your involvement with physics, you're invited to tumble down the rabbit hole with the wonderful Alice, all in caps.
[01:30:54]  And they have more photos of it in here.
[01:30:56]  I found a very interesting line, though, at the end.
[01:30:58]  Let's see if I can dig it out.
[01:31:01]  It is in Sergey, France, and it's just a little bit from CERN and the Swiss border.
[01:31:14]  The interesting thing is, in their literature, there's a thing about they often talk about the uninitiated.
[01:31:21]  And I thought that was kind of a fitting thing, seeing as that we're bringing in the mystery school aspects.
[01:31:27]  So the Alice CERN project, Alice in Wonderland being all about.
[01:31:32]  The reality distortion factor, that apothecary idea that we've put forward out here.
[01:31:38]  Interestingly enough, the mystery school connections with Lewis Carroll, the fact that he did work on the fourth dimension, the fact that this army colonel that we've cited here, Fitch, said that Alice in Wonderland was a description of hyperspace, bring all of these factors together.
[01:31:59]  CERN bringing forward the Alice experiment, creating these conditions.
[01:32:04]  The hottest, hottest in the sun, coldest in space, but creating this kind of reality distortion.
[01:32:12]  And then all the effects that happen when CERN is turned on, which many good researchers have come forward and discussed.
[01:32:19]  That really brings us into understanding the link between the mystery school and what I would say the mystery school battles or the mystery school struggles about information that they've brought out and what could be done with it.
[01:32:33]  Because their biggest concern, according to Steiner was that the information would get misused.
[01:32:38]  And again, when Blavatsky comes forward and she's talking about Keeley's work, she says the mystery schools will never let it come out.

=== Pine Gap Whistleblower Connections (15:03) ===

[01:32:47]  Not because they're trying to hoard technology, but because they don't want people like the corporate raiders in our society to get a handle on it.
[01:32:54]  They don't want those people to come forward and become the kind of chiefs of society by oppressing everyone with this more phenomenal technology than the stuff that we have now.
[01:33:04]  But when we look at Alice in Wonderland through the prism, Of the information that we have now, and we understand the Orphic Circle group, who was a mystery school, that Emma Britton brought out.
[01:33:16]  And I would say this about Emma Britton.
[01:33:19]  I think it would be a fantastic idea for anyone to read her autobiography because she exposes in here, and again, she was a theosophist who Blavatsky said was the best psychic that they had, basically.
[01:33:37]  And she had a remarkable life anyway.
[01:33:39]  The book is incredible, and all of these kind of trance mediums that she knows when she goes to New York from London after the Orphic Circle.
[01:33:48]  Her dad dies and her connection to the Orphic Circle is gone, so they move her over to France and they're like, hey, go over here, study music, study art, just fade into the background and forget about all the things that we did with you.
[01:34:01]  So I'm going to read you a couple of quick things from Emma Britton's autobiography.
[01:34:07]  So she's saying when she was young, and this is one of the reasons they chose her, at the time, these very unchildlike experiences no one around me understood.
[01:34:15]  The servants of the family would often say in low tones amongst themselves that the child had described some of their dead relatives and also that what I Ever I had prophesied was sure to come to pass.
[01:34:26]  So, even at five or six years old, she had this ability.
[01:34:31]  So, she talks about getting on the radar of the Orphic Circle, and we went over who the Orphic Circle was, now we know who it is.
[01:34:39]  Let's start with this.
[01:34:41]  The Society of Occultists, in whom I can now only allude to, and who are named in Ghostland, which is her book, as the Orphic Circle, obtained knowledge by means I am not at liberty to mention.
[01:34:54]  None of the members were known as such outside their circles.
[01:34:57]  Okay, so I touched on that.
[01:35:00]  As the powers so mystical in my own person were thoroughly comprehended by the adepts of the Orphic Society, there's a change there.
[01:35:10]  Orphic Circle, Orphic Society.
[01:35:12]  Now she's indicating there's something else.
[01:35:17]  I shall sum up this portion of my early life, quoting a few lines of an article written by one of my occult associates and published.
[01:35:24]  In a book called Medium, quote, a ghost seeress, somnambulist, improvises to music.
[01:35:33]  She is a prophetess, a strange, weird child, Emma Floyd, which was her original name.
[01:35:39]  Interestingly enough, the Orphic Circle gave her the name Emma Hardinge, and then she got married, and that's Emma Hardinge Britain.
[01:35:48]  She was the terror of her nursery attendants and the problem with all who knew her.
[01:35:51]  It seems the hereditary influences were prevalent in this child's nature, descended from the renowned Welsh wizard.
[01:35:58]  Owen Glendower.
[01:36:00]  Little Emma also partook of the characteristics of her father, a man of phenomenal powers of prevision and other qualities of a spiritualistic order.
[01:36:10]  So we've come full circle around seeing how this Emma Britton becomes the kind of archetype for Alice in Wonderland and how this group develops all this information in the Orphic Circle by working with her.
[01:36:25]  But then when we go and run it up to the 21st century and we're looking at Alice, And its relationship to CERN, we're getting this interesting crisscross that's telling us that the people who are doing CERN are also aware of the material that we're talking about.
[01:36:40]  They're aware of it, they're not late to the party, and they're very keen on the kind of Rosicrucian Mystery School impact.
[01:36:49]  And with that, Olivia, I'm going to turn it over to you.
[01:36:52]  Oh, are we, it's time for questions already?
[01:36:55]  Excellent.
[01:36:56]  Yeah, well, we've been on for almost two hours.
[01:36:58]  Oh, wow.
[01:36:59]  Oh, my God.
[01:36:59]  I have so many questions, I don't even know where to start.
[01:37:01]  All right, so do I.
[01:37:03]  Yeah, one quick look again at this is Alice, right?
[01:37:07]  Alice Little, right in the heart of the Orphic Circle, but in this case, Lewis Carroll's Orphic Circle.
[01:37:17]  And there she is again.
[01:37:19]  That's pretty, she's looking pretty mystical in those.
[01:37:25]  And later, when she came to America as an older woman, she made some very interesting references about things that would lead you to believe that she was working in this occult society.
[01:37:36]  Okay, you're up.
[01:37:37]  All right.
[01:37:38]  So the first thing is, I think that we should refer everybody to the CERN episode that you have up on YouTube with Joseph, right?
[01:37:49]  Yeah.
[01:37:49]  Because you're asking lots of questions, and I'm sure that YouTube covered a lot of that.
[01:37:55]  Yeah, that is.
[01:37:57]  And it's fascinating.
[01:37:58]  There's so many things that there's a book by Dr. Farrell, which is called The Third Way, which covers how CERN got into being, how we even got CERN in the first place.
[01:38:10]  So that's fascinating.
[01:38:12]  And it gives us the kind of jumping off point.
[01:38:14]  So I would suggest everyone read that.
[01:38:17]  The third way, that also gives us a big background on this kind of post war fascist influence.
[01:38:24]  And one of the really revealing things in there is that CERN is discovered to be a sovereign entity.
[01:38:32]  So when you have these scientists who go to sue it, basically, because they think their experiments are dangerous and that a lot of the things they're going to bring forward could create like little black holes that would suck in matter.
[01:38:45]  They find that they don't have a leg to stand on because CERN is a sovereign thing.
[01:38:49]  It's like suing a country.
[01:38:51]  So that's quite remarkable.
[01:38:53]  I mean, we're learning all these things about CERN through the deep research of people like Joseph Farrell.
[01:39:00]  And the episode is CERN Apotheosis, but it's part of a series, as you'll see back there, if you look on the channel or on darkjournalist.com.
[01:39:09]  If you're at darkjournalist.com, sign up for the newsletter because that way you'll stay up to date on the shows we have coming up.
[01:39:15]  Okay, what do you got?
[01:39:18]  Uh, well, William Climate was asking about Alice Springs in Australia.
[01:39:23]  Oh, isn't that interesting?
[01:39:24]  Did you do any research on that?
[01:39:26]  Yeah, well, Alice Springs was named after.
[01:39:30]  This is an interesting thing.
[01:39:32]  They thought initially that it was named after the children of the explorer, but later it came out that that wasn't the case.
[01:39:41]  So it was up in the air, Alice Springs.
[01:39:44]  Who named it?
[01:39:45]  Why is it called Alice?
[01:39:47]  And certainly the Alice in Wonderland thing.
[01:39:49]  We know that Wonderland is the name that they attributed to areas like Area 51, where they do this kind of research.
[01:39:59]  And this is another kind of incredible shot from the period, one of the original covers for the book, which I think gives us that emphasis around Alice and the rabbit.
[01:40:11]  But yeah, it is quite interesting.
[01:40:13]  It could very well be that they named it Alice for that reason.
[01:40:17]  Great call.
[01:40:18]  And weird things happen in Alice Springs, by the way.
[01:40:22]  There's whole groups, and so many people have communicated with me about this.
[01:40:26]  There are whole groups who just kind of hang around and watch these strange beams and strange craft hover around Pine Gap and take off and stuff like that.
[01:40:37]  So it's very common knowledge there.
[01:40:40]  Even, I mean, it's maybe like 100 miles away, there's like a UFO park, you could say, with all this kind of graffiti of UFOs and stuff.
[01:40:49]  So quite a far out scene.
[01:40:51]  Okay, next.
[01:40:52]  Okay, Don Forbes wants to know is there any connection between CERN and the Goddard?
[01:40:57]  Tunnel opening ceremony?
[01:41:01]  Well, theoretically, you know, we've seen unusual activity around CERN that relates to rituals.
[01:41:12]  And, you know, there was kind of a mock human sacrifice there.
[01:41:17]  We know that Kali and a lot of these different mythological images are there.
[01:41:24]  What they're up to, if we look and we understand the Rosicrucian mystery school aspects and the deeper.
[01:41:32]  Aspects of that whole alchemy side of things.
[01:41:35]  I think we get a much better handle on who these groups were.
[01:41:40]  But when you look at what's happening now and where those types of secret societies and occult societies, what they're using CERN for, absolutely, there's a big tie in.
[01:41:51]  And I think it's important to get a handle on it without people just saying, well, CERN is a big devil worshiping Satan den.
[01:42:00]  It's not that.
[01:42:01]  It's that.
[01:42:03]  There's multiple layers of secrecy to CERN, scientific, secret society, in terms of their sovereignty.
[01:42:11]  I mean, it's not a normal thing.
[01:42:14]  You're not really able to have that kind of secrecy in the modern age.
[01:42:17]  So I think it's something worth this deeper investigation that we give it.
[01:42:22]  Okay.
[01:42:22]  Jack Bricker is asking Where did the funds for CERN come from with uncertain results and uncertain gain or return on investments?
[01:42:32]  I think that's interesting.
[01:42:33]  I would refer you to.
[01:42:36]  My interview with Farrell, CERN Apotheosis, and I would refer you to the third way book.
[01:42:42]  I mean, that's, I think, the best information on that.
[01:42:44]  But I think, as always, it's, we're really looking at something that is, even the funding has hidden tracks to it.
[01:42:54]  Okay.
[01:42:55]  Okay.
[01:42:56]  So, Aaron Moon, what does DJ think the nines in the CERN logo mean?
[01:43:01]  They can be read as nines or sixes, right?
[01:43:04]  Yeah.
[01:43:07]  You know, it's interesting.
[01:43:09]  It looks to me that there's something embedded there.
[01:43:13]  So, when we talk about steganography, and we've talked so much about steganography with the X, it's something which looks plain and ordinary to the average person.
[01:43:23]  And with steganography, I make the example often of this Falcon and the Snowman movie, which relates to Pine Gap because, you know, Pine Gap is really the kind of hardcore hangout for the Intel society.
[01:43:38]  That's where they do most of the eavesdropping on the rest of us.
[01:43:41]  And the movie is centered around this.
[01:43:43]  Guy who gets all this cryptology and information back, and uh, he accidentally gets all this information relating to top secret surveillance of these officials, especially trying to get uh, Gough Whitlam, who's the prime minister, out of power because he wants to get rid of Pine Gap.
[01:44:04]  So, what he does is he teams up with his Russian counterparts and uh, he's selling secrets basically because he objects to what the U.S. is doing.
[01:44:13]  It's a true story, but um.
[01:44:16]  What he does is he places these X's on these telephone poles, and they're indications for those spies who see it to go and meet there that they're going to have these meetings at such and such a time.
[01:44:27]  But for an average person, they just see an X on a telephone pole.
[01:44:30]  It wouldn't look like anything or be really that out of place, even.
[01:44:33]  So that type of thing gets us into understanding steganography and how it works, but in a logo in particular.
[01:44:42]  So we might look at it and be able to throw, project things into it like 666 or whatever.
[01:44:48]  But certainly, I think it's a highly mystical connotation symbol that they're using there.
[01:44:55]  Okay.
[01:44:56]  I don't claim to know what it is.
[01:44:58]  Tom Sawyer is asking Do you know any whistleblowers from CERN?
[01:45:04]  Well, I talk to a lot of people.
[01:45:06]  As you can imagine, as a dark journalist, I talk to a lot of people who have a lot to do with these different types of projects.
[01:45:13]  But I probably, if I was talking to a whistleblower from CERN, I probably wouldn't talk about it publicly because I'd be trying to get information about it.
[01:45:22]  And that's how we always say, you know, when we get these.
[01:45:27]  Kind of secret space program whistleblower type people, and they're like, oh, hey, I'm out here, and all the rest of it.
[01:45:32]  When you understand real secrecy and you understand the lengths, and you talk to people like Bill Binney, who was the NSA person who came up with Thin Thread and the types of things he suffered, and the threat of prison and having a machine gun in his face in the shower, those are real whistleblowers.
[01:45:48]  That's real stuff.
[01:45:49]  The other stuff goes into fantasy entertainment.
[01:45:52]  But real whistleblowers, very hard.
[01:45:55]  Yeah, there's quite a price to pay.
[01:45:57]  Absolutely.
[01:45:57]  So Najat is asking Could the hidden mathematical equations in Alice have formulas that can manipulate time or other supernatural abilities?
[01:46:07]  Well, let's think about Lewis Carroll being one of the top mathematicians of his day.
[01:46:12]  He's also a philosophical major, he's also a great writer, he's also a reverend, he's also the librarian at the University of Oxford.
[01:46:25]  This is very interesting because.
[01:46:29]  I've read these different entries by mathematicians who are absolutely obsessed with the math puzzles that he is putting in there throughout Alice in Wonderland.
[01:46:43]  And one of the quotes that he says now, earlier I read his quote where he said, You know, I believe that the psychic realm is something we need to understand as a very concrete, because he was part of the psychical society at the time.
[01:47:03]  But one of the things that he says is at the end of his life I've placed things in there in different meanings with different, using different ideas, using different formats, using different ways to express it.
[01:47:17]  And the reason I did that is because when I was in church, I would see the most simple people becoming incredibly enraptured and just, you know, besides themselves and absorbing this incredible feeling that they were getting from the music.
[01:47:34]  And he thought about it and he said, you know, interesting.
[01:47:36]  They didn't need to understand the musical structures.
[01:47:39]  They didn't need to understand how it was created and so on.
[01:47:42]  They just needed to absorb the effect.
[01:47:45]  And so, what he's doing with us is giving us that in the book, Alice in Wonderland.

=== Deep Mathematical References (08:46) ===

[01:47:50]  Actually, when you read it, it transports you on a conscious level into the fantasy of Alice and all the great characters and all the great dialogue, these iconic images.
[01:48:00]  But there's deep, deep, Mathematical references in it.
[01:48:06]  There's a language to it.
[01:48:08]  So, where does that take us back to?
[01:48:10]  I mean, when you look at some of these ancient structures, and I think about the Edgar Cayce reference to the Great Pyramid, that if you understood the mathematics in the Great Pyramid, that you could actually predict events and pinpoint people down to their street names.
[01:48:26]  So, there's a mathematical language in the geometry of these buildings.
[01:48:32]  And so, when we get to that, They're operating on a totally different level.
[01:48:37]  They're trying to communicate something to us, like Notre Dame.
[01:48:43]  This is the great buildings, the great churches, even the church that I showed earlier, where we had the three hairs symbol and the triskelion.
[01:48:53]  These are messages that transport directly past the intellect and go deeper into that place.
[01:49:00]  That's what Alice in Wonderland does.
[01:49:01]  So I hope that answers your question.
[01:49:04]  What else you got?
[01:49:05]  Okay, so Brenda Fisher, how does CERN's Awake project relate to Alice?
[01:49:11]  I don't know.
[01:49:13]  I know that the Alice project is unusual because it employs, it's kind of a strange offshoot.
[01:49:21]  And for them, when I found out that their subdivisions, Inside the Alice project that are called rabbit holes.
[01:49:29]  Now it seems very obvious, but here they are using this incredible imagery of Alice.
[01:49:34]  And you know, the way that they described it in the name, as I read earlier, was a large, you know, the way that they did it, they didn't have to do it that way because they didn't have to use the word A.
[01:49:43]  They wanted to call it Alice and they want to call those subdivisions working with it that are setting up that collider.
[01:49:51]  They want to refer to Alice in Wonderland and the rabbit hole.
[01:49:55]  And you Start to wonder where it is that they're going with that.
[01:50:00]  And what I'm thinking is this effect that they're referencing, this kind of reality distortion effect in Alice in Wonderland about time and all the rest of it.
[01:50:12]  They know this is their little message among their own community about what it is that they're up to.
[01:50:17]  So when I see the CERN Alice thing, I'm thinking directly about the issues underground that are taking place in Alice in Wonderland and how that's the reality distortion.
[01:50:30]  And also, what's interesting when you consider it is, you know, Zanoni or the coming race, the power of Rill, that's all about underground structures.
[01:50:43]  So here we have a Rosicrucian telling us about the underground in Lord Bulwer Lytton, bringing this forward.
[01:50:50]  People like Blavatsky and Steiner saying he's an adept, not just an average Rosicrucian, but an adept.
[01:50:56]  And then we have Lewis Carroll, who You know, he's at Oxford.
[01:51:05]  He's a Rosicrucian, and he's later part of Theosophy.
[01:51:09]  He's talking about the underground.
[01:51:12]  So they're trying to give us a hint there about this.
[01:51:16]  And of course, CERN operating deep, deep underground.
[01:51:21]  David Donaway, do the rabbits always spiral in the same direction in the steganography?
[01:51:28]  That's a great question.
[01:51:29]  From everything I've seen, there's a great book called The Three Hairs.
[01:51:33]  One of the guys is a filmmaker.
[01:51:35]  His name is Chapman.
[01:51:36]  And they've gone around the world doing it.
[01:51:38]  I've shown many of their images here tonight.
[01:51:39]  There's probably a few I haven't, didn't get to.
[01:51:41]  But let's just take a quick look so we all know what he's talking about again.
[01:51:53]  So, yeah, that image, the three hairs, that triskelion, that Celtic image of fire, as they say.
[01:52:06]  Over and over again, the idea seems to be the trick into it is that poem, which has that little part in there about how they have two ears, but they're three.
[01:52:22]  And how if you watch them turn and turn again, they will, you'll get it, basically.
[01:52:30]  So, but from everything I've seen, they do.
[01:52:33]  They're always going in the same direction.
[01:52:36]  And remember this that imagery can be seen before Christ.
[01:52:40]  From Iran, China, Egypt, Germany before Christ, and in England, throughout the English churches later.
[01:52:53]  Three hairs sharing three hairs, yet every one of them has two.
[01:52:57]  That's a puzzle.
[01:52:59]  That's some steganography right at the heart of the things that we're talking about.
[01:53:03]  I just wanted to mention off of that that Erasmatronic said Did you guys also consider that the rabbit is a fertility symbol, Eastern bunny?
[01:53:11]  I remember seeing a bunny being played as Christ figure, the same figure crucified in the axis mundi, which is the X cross.
[01:53:23]  Oh, that is very interesting.
[01:53:25]  I like the way you brought all that together, actually.
[01:53:29]  I'll tell you something.
[01:53:31]  We know that in everything from the Mayan moon goddess, which is a rabbit, to the earlier pagan traditions and all the rest of it, That it's referring to the feminine side of things, it's referring to the moon, it's referring to fertility.
[01:53:48]  That's true.
[01:53:49]  But I think when we see a rabbit and we see a hare, you know, looking at this, we should kind of remove some of our predisposition about that.
[01:54:03]  Because it's interesting, as I mentioned, that there were some early.
[01:54:12]  People who really got into this were Rosicrucians.
[01:54:17]  And one of them was this Basil Valentine.
[01:54:21]  And the 12 keys that he left, and when he was associating it all with Rosicrucian imagery, it's absolutely fascinating and it gets deep into the alchemy.
[01:54:34]  But one of the things that came out of his work and the group around him was this idea that that imagery was culled from something called the Hunt of Venus.
[01:54:47]  The hunt of Venus shows up very sparingly, and it's usually in Latin.
[01:54:54]  And it has nothing to do with a regular hunt.
[01:54:57]  And people have tried to say, well, maybe the thing is about a hunt.
[01:55:00]  But when you're dealing on a mystery school level or dealing with alchemists and things along this line, the first meaning, the direct meaning, like a rabbit being fertility, that part's understood.
[01:55:13]  It makes sense.
[01:55:15]  But you want to go deeper than that to see what it is that they're trying to refer to.
[01:55:19]  So, when I say hunt and I say Venus, you know, we have to go beyond their traditional meanings to figure out what it is they're referring to.
[01:55:30]  What's interesting is when we get around to some of the 12 keys that are involved with Valentine, and we're going to cover Valentine more in depth.
[01:55:37]  We had to touch on him lightly here because Alice is the star.
[01:55:42]  But it is interesting because Valentine, when he brings this information forward in his 10th key, we've got Mercury again.
[01:55:51]  You have Mercury as Hermes.
[01:55:54]  And that whole piece of it comes forward.
[01:55:59]  And what it says on the side in Latin is, I am a servant or I am of the order of Hermes.
[01:56:06]  So that's a long way around saying that basically they're working on a deep level because what's happening is out of that school, the Hermetic school comes the as above, so below, that ricochets for years and reverberates through these traditions.
[01:56:26]  And so, as above, so below, the hunt for Venus becomes a little bit different.
[01:56:31]  Are they talking about a certain astrological alignment?
[01:56:34]  That's the first thing that jumped into my head.

=== Atlantis Mystery Schools Echoes (09:07) ===

[01:56:36]  So, yeah, fascinating, fascinating stuff.
[01:56:38]  Okay, you're up.
[01:56:38]  Inquiring Mind has the ultimate question here.
[01:56:40]  Do you think that the purpose of CERN is to benefit mankind or is it of a destructive nature?
[01:56:48]  It's a great question.
[01:56:50]  Look, CERN is a hidden mystery, okay?
[01:56:53]  But through the work of people like Dr. Farrell and others, we've gotten a handle, at least, on some aspects of it.
[01:56:59]  That is the incredible secrecy that they're utilizing it for, and that has a normal cover story, which is hey, we're looking for the Higgs boson.
[01:57:06]  Oh, by the way, we found it, but supposedly.
[01:57:10]  So we've got the God particle.
[01:57:12]  Now we're going to go further.
[01:57:13]  Give us more money and let us be more secret.
[01:57:16]  You see, I don't want to attribute all these evil things to CERN, but I think there are some projects which, you know, I mean, cry out for more investigation because I think what we're looking at with CERN is if I had to look at it in the grand kind of esoteric tradition, it reminds me a lot of the two eye stone that Casey talked about, which was the crystal.
[01:57:41]  That was utilized in Atlantis and that could do these remarkable things, including let craft go through mountains and just this incredible solar device that he called a Firestone.
[01:57:56]  But that whole end of the technology, remember, we're getting back to the X technology that the mystery schools hid for so long.
[01:58:04]  Why did they hide it?
[01:58:05]  Because it almost wiped everything out.
[01:58:08]  And the message was at that time, the men in Atlantis were like gods.
[01:58:13]  And they were using this.
[01:58:15]  So that crystal was accidentally turned too high, the two eye stone.
[01:58:21]  And that brought all this destruction to Atlantis the first time around and split it into three islands.
[01:58:26]  And eventually it took the whole thing down.
[01:58:29]  But they were using it for all these different purposes.
[01:58:32]  And so it's got this physical counterpart where you look at it as a physical technology, but you also have to see there's a kind of like a spiritual ramification.
[01:58:42]  When they understand that interface, You know, one of the things that Casey says in relation to the crystal is that the Belial group used it for different purposes than the followers of One.
[01:58:55]  So the followers of One were using it to do what?
[01:58:58]  They weren't even using it for the incredible physical technology, they were using it to interface with spiritual beings.
[01:59:04]  That's what they had developed.
[01:59:06]  So the Belial group, you can understand that type of spiritual technology in their hands, that's what destroyed Atlantis.
[01:59:14]  When you think about CERN, it feels, it has that feeling to me.
[01:59:19]  Of an advanced, you know, reaching into these other dimensions.
[01:59:23]  We started out this episode with Emma Britton.
[01:59:28]  It comes down to a single person, right?
[01:59:30]  She's in the Orphic Circle as a girl, you know, at, you know, she's there for many years, like five years almost.
[01:59:38]  But there she is, like 12 years old.
[01:59:40]  They're using her as a somnambulist trance channel to understand the nature of reality.
[01:59:47]  So, you know, she's interfacing with the spiritual realm.
[01:59:50]  For me, CERN, You know, Alice, CERN, is they're doing the same thing.
[01:59:58]  They're interfacing with dimensions, a different realm, and they're trying to get information.
[02:00:04]  They're trying to interact with it.
[02:00:06]  So, can it be used for traditionally evil purposes?
[02:00:11]  Absolutely.
[02:00:11]  I mean, there's no question about it.
[02:00:12]  I think it's a very suspicious phenomena that's going on.
[02:00:16]  We don't know a lot about it.
[02:00:19]  I think that's a major problem.
[02:00:21]  Okay.
[02:00:22]  Erin Moon is asking She says, We were wondering if the rabbit hole could be like a wormhole.
[02:00:28]  And Snods88 is asking, is CERN a time machine?
[02:00:33]  I know that the 88 part of that is really funny.
[02:00:37]  You got me there.
[02:00:38]  The second one, the time machine one, I think is interesting.
[02:00:41]  What was the first part again?
[02:00:42]  Oh, I erased it already.
[02:00:43]  Sorry.
[02:00:43]  No, that's okay.
[02:00:44]  I got the message of it.
[02:00:45]  I just wanted to hear the specifics.
[02:00:47]  Basically, the upshot is this CERN comes out of the blue as this program now that they figured out.
[02:00:58]  But we know from our research that who does it go back to?
[02:01:04]  It goes back to them the Varian brothers.
[02:01:10]  The Varian brothers were in the Rad Lab with John Trump, who had Tesla's information.
[02:01:15]  And who was the other guy who was there, who was Trump's mentor, was Vannevar Bush.
[02:01:20]  That's the UFO file in a nutshell, right there, that whole group in the Rad Lab at MIT.
[02:01:27]  The Varian brothers come out of Halcyon, the Theosophical group, which we know well from this program.
[02:01:37]  Who was in charge of Halcyon?
[02:01:43]  In theosophical terms, it's Master Hilarion.
[02:01:45]  And what does he do according to Ledbetter, who's one of the main figures of the society?
[02:01:50]  He influences the scientists.
[02:01:53]  Now, for good, you know, because Hilarion is one of these forces, one of the ascended masters that does this.
[02:02:02]  But that's who the whole society of Halcyon is set up under.
[02:02:06]  It's not the other list of ascended masters, it's specifically scientific.
[02:02:11]  So when we get the Varian brothers out of the Halcyon experiment in theosophy in California, And then they create the Klystron, and then that becomes the foundation of what we use for deep space radar.
[02:02:25]  And they create the first particle collider and actually sell it in 1939.
[02:02:33]  Here we are 80 years after they created it.
[02:02:37]  And they're doing the experiments with CERN using the variance technology.
[02:02:41]  It's all mystery school related if you unpack it.
[02:02:46]  It goes back to.
[02:02:48]  Theosophy, the Rosicrucians, Halcyon, Anthroposophy, John Keeley's work.
[02:02:55]  These things are related.
[02:02:56]  I mean, there's no, when you really get down to it, and the thing that has helped us track it, how did we get to the variants?
[02:03:03]  It was through the X steganography that came out of the hidden programs of technology, of advanced technology that we ran across that went black and then showed back up with the X.
[02:03:13]  No, no, we're deep, we're deep, deep on the trail here.
[02:03:16]  There's no question.
[02:03:17]  Okay, you're up next.
[02:03:19]  Okay.
[02:03:22]  Olivia, you're doing a killer job with questions, Paula.
[02:03:25]  I mean, I have such, I think I have more questions tonight than I've ever had before.
[02:03:29]  Fantastic.
[02:03:30]  So, Grant Alexander wants to know what secret society has the most info on ET and UFOs?
[02:03:38]  Well, it's a great question.
[02:03:40]  I would think that the more advanced groups, you know, it's interesting because any group that goes back to Egypt in Atlantis, All those mystery schools that harken back to that tradition, there's an echo of what happened back there because there's no doubt there were off world civilizations involved if you look at the information from this point of view.
[02:04:10]  Now, I think when you look at things like the UFO file, it's apparent there's an off world civilization in the stuff that they're recovering.
[02:04:20]  But there's something else in this X technology thing.
[02:04:25]  And I think it comes.
[02:04:26]  From this interaction with the mystery schools.
[02:04:31]  Whatever it is that they encounter when they kind of go into this place, when they're developing, you know, whether it's the Atlantean technology or John Keeley's technology, that's not Atlantean.
[02:04:44]  That's a human technology raised up to a spiritual level somehow.
[02:04:49]  And it echoes back to Atlantis.
[02:04:51]  So, in a way, the groups that have information about Atlantis have far more information than anything about ETs, because one thing that we have to remember is that inside of humanity, we have the links.
[02:05:05]  Directly to access this kind of spiritual higher realities.
[02:05:10]  I mean, that's the message of the mystery schools.
[02:05:13]  That's the real mystery of the universe.
[02:05:15]  The fact that we have peers who are off world civilizations, you know, a lot of people would be inclined to kind of worship aliens or things like that.
[02:05:23]  I don't see it that way.
[02:05:24]  It's really, I think that if there are groups that are off world civilizations visiting here, they're peers and that you wouldn't pray to a peer, you would engage with them.
[02:05:35]  But in terms of which school, I think that the most influential mystery school are the Rosicrucians.

=== Gene Dixon Spiritual Faculties (07:59) ===

[02:05:43]  And there are a lot of other candidates for that, including when you refer to something like the Great White Brotherhood, there's all these sub brotherhoods going right out.
[02:05:55]  You get public theosophy, anthroposophy, right?
[02:05:58]  Eastern blend, Western blend.
[02:06:01]  So I would say they all have some understanding of the ET factor, if that answers your question.
[02:06:07]  Okay.
[02:06:08]  JJK wants to know, was Lewis Carroll a drug addict?
[02:06:11]  And David Tormina wants to know how much a role hallucinogens played during this period.
[02:06:18]  Yeah, absolutely.
[02:06:19]  Well, they did.
[02:06:21]  What's fascinating is that he did have a leg issue that was chronic and he took laudanum for it.
[02:06:30]  But I don't think that that influenced his work so, so much.
[02:06:33]  I think what was happening was he was influenced, though, by a writer who wrote a book called Confessions of an Opium Addict.
[02:06:41]  This is in 1862, I believe, 1861.
[02:06:46]  And I don't have the guy's name handy, but Carol was absolutely obsessed with his work.
[02:06:53]  And what's fascinating is, you know, there are many descriptions of these drug experiences that this guy has on opium, where, you know, the world kind of expands and things like that, that seem to pop up in Carol's work.
[02:07:07]  But I'll give you an even better source for Alice in Wonderland, some of the things that happen, which is.
[02:07:13]  Some people have compared the experience, the kind of shamanic experience of someone like Carlos Castaneda and the things that he went through, where when he goes into certain initiatory rites doing these shamanic rituals, he expands and he becomes taller because he's doing all this work in his astral body.
[02:07:33]  And in the beginning, when you reach a certain level, it's hard to control that expansion.
[02:07:39]  So there's a kind of effect there, a reality distortion effect that takes place.
[02:07:44]  To me, There's an awful lot of shamanism involved in Alice in Wonderland.
[02:07:53]  There's no question about it.
[02:07:54]  And less drugs, more shamanism.
[02:07:57]  That's actually good.
[02:07:57]  That's our slogan for the year.
[02:08:00]  Slogo.
[02:08:01]  I like that even better.
[02:08:02]  Titan Ludden.
[02:08:05]  Did the Orphic Circle find women more adept for the work they were doing?
[02:08:10]  Yes.
[02:08:11]  There's no question about it.
[02:08:12]  What she refers to, Emma Hardinge Britton, they're really using her because of her abilities, but it seems like this is the model, which is the girls generally are around 10 to 14, and there's a kind of an openness of their psyche.
[02:08:32]  They're not overloaded by certain aspects.
[02:08:36]  Now, it's interesting because if you look into Steiner's work, what does he say in relation to women generally?
[02:08:43]  Woven in matter and their etheric body.
[02:08:46]  So, you know, there's different ways to look at etheric body and physical body and all the rest of it.
[02:08:51]  I'm not going to get too deep into that, but suffice to say, what he is saying is that women are naturally more spiritual.
[02:08:59]  If they're naturally more spiritual, we've heard of this, you know, women's intuition and all the rest of it.
[02:09:04]  But it does seem to me that women have it more naturally.
[02:09:08]  But when a man has that kind of psychic ability, it seems like they are absolutely remarkable, right?
[02:09:15]  So, I think it would be more common.
[02:09:17]  When we get into the story of Emma Brinton and how she is kind of the prototype for Alice in Wonderland, I think she's very important.
[02:09:26]  And what she gave us in the story of the Orphic Circle was that prime ministers, the leading people of the society, Charles Dickens, Bulwer Lytton, they were in the Orphic Circle and they were using these young people who were predominantly girls around the age of 10 to 12, 10 to 14, to do these.
[02:09:49]  Trance to open up in trance channels, and what kind of information did they get?
[02:09:52]  Well, they got state secrets, one, they got information on the nature of reality, two.
[02:10:00]  But in a third category, she talks about how later the whole thing was kind of a blur to where her memories started to come back, and she remembered one particular occasion where she came back out of the trance in the start, and the whole room was trashed, and there were beings that had been conjured basically.
[02:10:21]  Who were doing the contact with this Orphic Circle?
[02:10:23]  So, you know, we have all this kind of wildness about spiritualism there in the 19th century.
[02:10:29]  So, people would have seances and things like that.
[02:10:31]  But this is on a whole different level.
[02:10:33]  So, I think a lot of the memories, frankly, for her of being in the Orphic Circle when she went into trance, she wouldn't remember very much like Casey when he came out of his readings, when he was giving readings.
[02:10:46]  He had no knowledge of what had been, what had taken place or what he had said or who he had contacted.
[02:10:52]  It was all depending on who was directing.
[02:10:55]  The activity.
[02:10:56]  And so in this case, the Orphic Circle was taking Britain and they were directing her activities and getting information on the nature of reality and other things.
[02:11:05]  Okay, two more questions.
[02:11:07]  There's so many left.
[02:11:08]  Okay, Ice Angel mentioned it has surprised me to no end how extensively the esoteric schools were used by the highest circles of political types.
[02:11:18]  I thought you might want to go into why that would be.
[02:11:21]  Oh, absolutely.
[02:11:23]  Great question, my God.
[02:11:24]  And great catch, Olivia.
[02:11:27]  Here's the deal.
[02:11:30]  Let's look at our modern ish era and look at the connection of Gene Dixon with Nixon.
[02:11:38]  She was so close when they were doing research for the 9 11 Commission, trying to figure out things about terrorism task force.
[02:11:46]  They ran across the interesting fact that Gene Dixon had visited or spoken on the phone with Nixon over 80 times during his tenure.
[02:11:58]  I've made the remark that Gene Dixon, who's known as the psychic astrologer from the 60s and 70s, At that point, she was probably the most powerful woman on the planet because she was influencing the decisions of the president.
[02:12:10]  So, there is this tradition.
[02:12:12]  Now, what's interesting about Dixon, when did she start doing this?
[02:12:17]  Well, it's well recorded that she started giving her psychic intuitive advice about Russia and World War II and Germany to FDR, even telling him how long he'd have to live so he could plan out what he was doing properly.
[02:12:30]  Edgar Cayce was brought in by Woodrow Wilson to help formulate the famous 14 points about the League of Nations and things like that.
[02:12:43]  You know, this tradition of, look at Rasputin, and if you think about the whole impact that he had on the Tsars, this is a tradition that goes back a long ways.
[02:12:55]  And I think what happened over time is they try to discourage the public from looking into the psychic aspect, but they kept it going on their side.
[02:13:04]  And the great breakthrough about the Orphic Circle, which again was just rumored and nobody really knew anything about it.
[02:13:14]  When Emma Hardinge Britton comes forward and tells us about the Orphic Circle, who do we find inside of it?
[02:13:20]  Benjamin Disraeli, who becomes Prime Minister, Bulwer Lytton, who was a member of Parliament and this incredibly influential author, Charles Dickens.
[02:13:35]  You know, let's think about that.
[02:13:38]  These are the movers and shakers of society, and they are penetrating hardcore into the mysteries.

=== Orphic Circle Famous Members (14:38) ===

[02:13:43]  And I had.
[02:13:45]  Probably a quote from her on this.
[02:13:49]  But anyway, yes, that's the answer to that.
[02:13:53]  No question about it.
[02:13:54]  We have a great gift there from Emma Britton.
[02:13:59]  Okay.
[02:14:00]  Just give me a couple more questions to ask.
[02:14:02]  I wanted to circle back around to the rabbits because I thought this was really interesting.
[02:14:07]  Randy Brown said the Fibonacci sequence was born out of a study on rabbits.
[02:14:13]  And John Rhodes said, Lepus the rabbit constellation under Orion's belt.
[02:14:19]  We know Orion has very particular.
[02:14:22]  Oh, that is absolutely fascinating.
[02:14:24]  Yeah.
[02:14:25]  I didn't know that about the Fibonacci sequence.
[02:14:27]  That's interesting.
[02:14:29]  And I do feel like, you know, we're going to, because of the three hairs mystery and how it came up in the center of the Rosicrucian work, we're going to discover now a lot that we just weren't looking at before.
[02:14:43]  Because while I may have seen those things and been aware of them and been aware of the Triskelion, I. Relating it deeply as it shows up with the ex steganography.
[02:14:54]  Now I know it better.
[02:14:55]  Now, so we're going to integrate that better.
[02:14:57]  And there's no question that, you know, like we talked about in China, they have this rabbit on the moon mythology.
[02:15:07]  We've seen the very unusual Mayan princess with the rabbit there.
[02:15:14]  And, you know, it's fascinating to me because we don't know a whole heck of a lot about these things.
[02:15:20]  This is the problem, the nature of the problem.
[02:15:22]  And when we go.
[02:15:23]  Deeply the way that we're doing tonight, we're just touching the surface.
[02:15:29]  Because, and I can say to you that in terms of the X series, you know, we've covered maybe about 10 to 12 percent of what I've uncovered.
[02:15:36]  I mean, we're getting into it, but there's it's changing.
[02:15:39]  I mean, it really has the potential to change the entire way that we look at the mystery schools one, our modern political situation two, and three, the way that the secret technology is being addressed.
[02:15:53]  Okay, you're up, and I'm going to make room.
[02:15:54]  Let's do five more questions.
[02:15:55]  Okay.
[02:15:55]  Inquiring mind again, were the movers and shakers of the Orphic Society also secret society members?
[02:16:01]  I think we need to establish what the Orphic Circle really was.
[02:16:06]  Yeah, well, no, we've established it very well.
[02:16:09]  Here's the thing the Orphic Circle was rumored as the kind of ultimately secret London sect that was studying with great occultists the nature of reality and alchemy and things of this nature.
[02:16:30]  Now, we haven't, we never got anything about them that was concrete.
[02:16:35]  This is why I've focused on Emma Britain.
[02:16:38]  Emma Britton was in the Orphic Circle.
[02:16:41]  She was brought up as the somnambulist trance channel.
[02:16:45]  Her father was associated somehow with the Orphic Circle and got her in there, elected her.
[02:16:51]  When he died, boom, the connection is gone.
[02:16:53]  She shipped off to France to become an actress and to play music.
[02:16:58]  And then she comes to stage here in America.
[02:17:01]  And, you know, she becomes a great medium here, but she starts to remember that whole thing about the Orphic Circle.
[02:17:07]  And she doesn't make the whole book about the Orphic Circle, it's a little aside, but it gives us great.
[02:17:13]  Idea.
[02:17:13]  So there's a few people who've looked into the Orphic Circle and they're starting to find those connections.
[02:17:20]  And what we've done is created a map of everyone who would be associated around the Orphic Circle.
[02:17:26]  And if that comes into some kind of a form where I feel like it's at least semi finished, we're going to bring it out on one of these shows.
[02:17:34]  But let's think about what they were part of.
[02:17:37]  You have people in the era like Queen Victoria, who is close friends with Lewis Carroll.
[02:17:47]  We have Lewis Carroll being associated in these circles, people like Dickens, Bulwer Lytton, the Rosicrucian connection.
[02:18:00]  There's a part of the Oxford Library called the Ashmolean aspect, and it is this incredible record of documents that were left behind there by someone who was a deep Rosicrucian.
[02:18:18]  And he wrote one of these books about the Kabbalah back then.
[02:18:25]  So we have these connections.
[02:18:26]  And the Orphic Circle itself, using these girls from 10 to 14 as somnambulists, becomes the echo when we get to Alice in Wonderland to understand what it is they're looking for.
[02:18:38]  So, really, we get a better understanding of Alice in Wonderland by looking at what the Orphic Circle is about by looking at what he's trying to portray there in esoteric secrecy in the book.
[02:18:51]  So, when we get her encountering these time problems, that's what I focus on because time is always standing still in this environment, as we've seen.
[02:19:00]  You know, he's always looking at his pocket watch, the White Rabbit, and, you know, there's always these conversations about very unusual things, like we've talked about the Mad Hatter killing time and it's always six o'clock and all the rest of it.
[02:19:15]  This, I think, gets us closer to what it is the mystery schools.
[02:19:19]  There's a timeless aspect where kind of time stands still.
[02:19:24]  And, you know, this is a part of the mystery that they're trying to convey to us on a deeper level.
[02:19:30]  But I also think that they relate that there are dangers involved with it, which is why when we talked about, and I often go back to Annie Besant hiding Keeley's research because she's worried about something.
[02:19:42]  They hide it away in Theosophy.
[02:19:45]  And Keeley, you know, the work, what was it that he was trying to create?
[02:19:51]  He was trying to create basically an esoteric motor, right?
[02:19:54]  A motor that would run on psychic force.
[02:19:57]  So, We're getting deeper into what this is all about, for sure.
[02:20:02]  But I do think it's fascinating.
[02:20:04]  When you get into the Orphic Circle, there's a lot to explore, but the good place to start is her autobiography, which we've started on here.
[02:20:12]  By the way, her book Ghostland contains all sorts of information about the Orphic Circle.
[02:20:18]  For me, the only hardcore information that we have is that the Orphic Circle existed in this period.
[02:20:27]  We're talking about, I'd say, between 1830 and onwards.
[02:20:34]  In the 19th century, what it morphed into and became is a good question.
[02:20:38]  Is it still around today is a good question.
[02:20:41]  But certainly, the period that it's active there is all through the 19th century.
[02:20:45]  And by the time we get to theosophy and anthroposophy, we have Rudolf Steiner saying, What?
[02:20:51]  Well, the mystery schools had a battle because in 1840, scientific materialism was going to take over.
[02:20:56]  They had to engage this question.
[02:20:59]  And what he says actually is interesting because there are so many mystery schools, but he says it's 14 people.
[02:21:05]  Who come forward and change the paradigm of the whole thing by letting information out.
[02:21:10]  And what they do starts the spiritualism craze with people like the Poughkeepsie Seer, Andrew Jackson Davis, and the Fox sisters, which starts this craze.
[02:21:20]  It's like an experiment from the mystery schools.
[02:21:22]  Can we teach these things to the public?
[02:21:25]  So we need to come at it from that level, I think, if we're going to get a handle on it.
[02:21:28]  By the way, you're watching Dark Journalists.
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[02:22:31]  Okay, back to the questions.
[02:22:34]  John Kay, could Alice in Wonderland been also used as a teaching text for occult members?
[02:22:42]  Absolutely.
[02:22:44]  I mean, yes is the answer.
[02:22:46]  And Alice in Wonderland is consciousness raising, it's consciousness changing.
[02:22:53]  It does have the wonderful effect of being a young person's book and expanding a young person's mind and letting their imagination lock in.
[02:23:02]  But you know, I've seen a lot of children's books over the years, and Alice in Wonderland really, I think, is the remarkable standout of the whole badge.
[02:23:10]  It's got so many interesting flavors to it, and I didn't really understand until I looked into the fact that he was such an incredible mathematician who was obsessed with the fourth dimension.
[02:23:21]  That's how this stuff started to make sense.
[02:23:26]  And there's that scene, right, Olivia, where the cup is going round and round the table and it can't be stopped.
[02:23:33]  That's a very mathematical equation thing that he's leaning on there.
[02:23:38]  And also, that question they ask at some point where Alice gets asked, you know, she says, Can you help me?
[02:23:46]  I'm lost.
[02:23:46]  He says, Where are you going?
[02:23:47]  And she says, I don't know.
[02:23:49]  And he said, Well, I can't help you.
[02:23:51]  It's good.
[02:23:51]  Then it doesn't matter which way you go, actually, is what he says.
[02:23:53]  And that's interesting to me because.
[02:23:56]  Those are deep mathematical symbols that he's conveying there.
[02:24:01]  Nobody wants to know about the 12 keys possibly being the 12 signs of the zodiac.
[02:24:08]  And you're going to do a follow up show on those 12 keys.
[02:24:10]  Yes, absolutely.
[02:24:12]  I know.
[02:24:13]  And the Valentine keys are incredibly important.
[02:24:18]  It's a secret that's been left out in the public and just left over.
[02:24:23]  And we have it.
[02:24:24]  And they are so unusual.
[02:24:25]  And talk about putting you into an altered state.
[02:24:29]  I mean, you don't need drugs or anything.
[02:24:32]  Just look at those keys.
[02:24:33]  Just put you in a different place.
[02:24:35]  But I would say that they are compelling.
[02:24:38]  They do come right into this.
[02:24:40]  And by the way, they come right into the heart of the Three Hairs information, also, and that information about the Hunt of Venus.
[02:24:49]  So we are definitely going to get into that.
[02:24:51]  There's going to be a show just focusing on these leftover texts that have really sat out there, and we don't really understand them very, very well, but they're alchemical texts that.
[02:25:04]  You know, and some of the work of people like Robert Flood, for example, I don't think that we have a good handle on what that tradition was about, to be honest with you.
[02:25:14]  And it's not to be arrogant, it's just to say that I think a lot of things were missed, at least in the literature that I've seen on it.
[02:25:23]  Okay, fantastic.
[02:25:24]  We'll finish on this.
[02:25:26]  JJK is asking So, all the signs and symbols, clues or exclusion for the masses, and Bo Krills, says Daniel.
[02:25:35]  Are they writing the books because of the supposed rule that if they tell us what they plan before they do it to us and we do nothing, then it is us agreeing to the plan, or is it insiders trying to help?
[02:25:50]  Well, that's really interesting.
[02:25:52]  You really have a handle there on both because there's no question that there are insiders.
[02:26:01]  The only reason that these mystery schools feed out this information publicly, in my opinion, in the grand scheme of things, is to.
[02:26:10]  Help the culture rise.
[02:26:13]  Now, some of the more kind of pernicious groups put information out to communicate with each other, and also some of the rules that you're talking about where they have to announce some of what they do before they do it.
[02:26:29]  I don't think we should get too hung up on second guessing what they are.
[02:26:33]  I think what we can do is understand that, in general, the idea of the mystery schools is this there are a There's three different types of groups fundamentally.
[02:26:47]  There are groups that are dedicated to the advancement of humanity.
[02:26:53]  There are groups that are dedicated to the advancement of the people they serve.
[02:26:59]  And there are groups that are leftovers who just know how to keep secrets and actually don't know what to do with them.
[02:27:09]  And I will tell you that that category comes up a lot, and it is neither one nor the other.
[02:27:16]  But Steiner and C.G. Harrison, who I think have provided the most blow by blow texts on the battle of the mystery schools back and forth, tell us this, which is that they associate the left and the right, sometimes called the brothers of the left and the right, but brothers and sisters.
[02:27:38]  And the left being the group that is in it for themselves and the people they serve, and the right, these have no political connotations, and the right being.
[02:27:51]  Those who are most compelled to work with developing humanity, groups like the Great White Brotherhood, which are well known in this kind of esoteric world.
[02:28:04]  But this other group hanging out in the middle that just has kept all these secrets, and that's what they're good at, their job is to just keep the secret, and their aim is a little bit maybe lost over time.
[02:28:16]  That group I find very interesting because I think things slip out of those groups very often.

=== Reading Opens Spiritual Aspects (07:39) ===

[02:28:21]  But I also want.
[02:28:24]  To you to understand the idea when we talk about this, from what I can see, the mystery schools need us as much as we need their wisdom.
[02:28:32]  Because this is something that Gurdjieff talked about, which is that a teacher can't move up to the next level until he's elevated someone to the space that he's at.
[02:28:43]  So there is this law.
[02:28:45]  Let's look at that law.
[02:28:46]  That's a little more compelling, I think.
[02:28:48]  Okay, fantastic question.
[02:28:49]  Great questions tonight.
[02:28:50]  Amazing people out here.
[02:28:53]  And I am impressed.
[02:28:57]  Indiana Joan, Indiana Joe, sorry.
[02:29:00]  Alice in Wonderland is out there.
[02:29:01]  Hey, hey.
[02:29:02]  Now we're talking.
[02:29:05]  We could have had her on as a guest.
[02:29:08]  Ice Angel, terrific to have you out there.
[02:29:11]  And I really like seeing everyone show up for the show.
[02:29:14]  You're watching Dark Journals.
[02:29:15]  I am going to take a couple more questions because I think everyone's on a roll.
[02:29:18]  Okay.
[02:29:18]  And then we'll wrap it up in a couple minutes.
[02:29:20]  Eric Ackerley wanted to know could we get a suggested reading list from DJ, maybe for the next week, kind of homework for those who want to do some further study?
[02:29:29]  Love X. Haven't missed one great show.
[02:29:32]  Well, this, thank you very much.
[02:29:35]  I really appreciate that.
[02:29:36]  The Autobiography of Emma Britton.
[02:29:38]  There are versions of it online.
[02:29:40]  I like actually getting the book and reading it and spending time with it.
[02:29:44]  That's a fantastic book.
[02:29:45]  I do feel that, you know, Cosmic Memory by Rudolf Steiner gives us an idea of what it is they might be hiding with the X steganography and that advanced technology angle.
[02:30:02]  Joseph Farrell's third way book, excellent.
[02:30:04]  If you want to know anything about CERN and the post war Nazi international, there's also a great section in there on McCarthy, which I think is fascinating, also.
[02:30:14]  So, yes, that would be my suggestions from this.
[02:30:18]  And you're up with your last question, Olivia.
[02:30:22]  Choose thou wisely.
[02:30:25]  Okay, get ready.
[02:30:26]  This is heavy.
[02:30:27]  So, Matt Murtaugh says, Does Steiner or other authors say that reading the literature improves your progress?
[02:30:33]  And JJK is asking, What did Steiner actually define as progress?
[02:30:40]  Oh, those are great.
[02:30:41]  Wow.
[02:30:42]  Well, I'm glad we waited.
[02:30:47]  Absolutely.
[02:30:47]  What it is, you know, reading the book can't do it on its own.
[02:30:52]  It's the application of the knowledge, and it's creating a center, a magnetic center, that starts to magnetize the type of information.
[02:31:07]  That you want to advance with.
[02:31:11]  So, if I'm reading all these Eastern texts, you know, like Yogananda or Autobiography of a Yogi, that's one of the Eastern ones I say.
[02:31:19]  My favorite.
[02:31:20]  There you go.
[02:31:22]  That would be one you introduced to me.
[02:31:25]  I would say that it creates a certain effect and a certain feeling.
[02:31:30]  And you understand it opens up a kind of reality for you.
[02:31:33]  And so, reading opens up that aspect.
[02:31:36]  And then there's another step.
[02:31:38]  That's required that goes beyond reading.
[02:31:40]  Because if you could read yourself to nirvana, you certainly would, but that's not how it works.
[02:31:45]  Reading is, they're like instruction manuals.
[02:31:48]  And most of this stuff is experiential.
[02:31:52]  That's what kind of causes the major changes and all the rest of it.
[02:31:56]  But for example, in Steiner's Knowledge of Higher Worlds, there's an exercise where you enter into someone else that you know, their reality, and try to see things through their eyes.
[02:32:08]  And you don't judge anything.
[02:32:09]  So you take someone who's maybe a friend of yours who's not into the same types of things, and you spend some time projecting yourself as them.
[02:32:20]  Thinking about how they view the world, what they're thinking about, and that kind of thing.
[02:32:25]  And this is an exercise in his book.
[02:32:28]  So he lays out knowledge of higher worlds that if you use these exercises, you can kind of achieve a certain mindset that helps you advance.
[02:32:37]  It's kind of like evolving your spiritual consciousness.
[02:32:40]  So there are things in books, there's no question.
[02:32:43]  But this idea that you can just, what it does is the intellectual part just stimulates the process that goes deeper.
[02:32:52]  And there's a deeper process that doesn't respond or correlate to the intellect.
[02:32:57]  For example, if you're in a museum or a cathedral, the thing is communicating to you in a totally different way.
[02:33:03]  And that's why, you know, in theosophy, they talk about thought forms.
[02:33:08]  And one of the great things they did is they went from a cathedral, you know, to a jail and the incredible difference in the thought form and the thing that enveloped them.
[02:33:19]  So, yeah, there's no doubt that there's a different way of seeing and that we get an incredible handle on, you know, The deeper aspects of our own abilities, our own realities, our abilities to achieve mystical states of consciousness.
[02:33:34]  And very often it's all about, you know, why?
[02:33:38]  Why would you want to do that?
[02:33:39]  Well, I think for many people, there's a great curiosity on one hand, but there's also a knowledge, a memory of using these more spiritual faculties.
[02:33:54]  There's an understanding in it.
[02:33:56]  But where in the regular society, which is Basically, designed to harvest you and keep you in a kind of what Graham Hancock calls channel normal, because it can deal with you there if you start changing your consciousness.
[02:34:09]  Even when people talk about things like ayahuasca and things like that, which I have no interest in taking, but I think the society crack down on those people because they don't want them experimenting with their consciousness because God knows, God forbid, what they're going to find.
[02:34:26]  And that's why the culture at large, I think, discourages.
[02:34:30]  Things like telepathy or knowledge of psychic information, or tries to treat it kind of like, you know, a frivolous thing, a game or whatever.
[02:34:39]  No, these groups, I think, that are in charge of society and that design things are very, very aware of what's going on because, hey, they know about the mystery schools.
[02:34:50]  They're familiar with them.
[02:34:52]  According to Steiner, they interface directly with them.
[02:34:55]  And we know that in Blavatsky's case, she went right to the American political mystery schools and said, I want to join you.
[02:35:02]  And they said, Hey, you're a woman, you can't.
[02:35:05]  And she said, Well, if you don't let me in, I'm going to go to this other mystery school in France, and then I'll let out all your secrets.
[02:35:14]  And they blocked her in with this, what's called occult imprisonment.
[02:35:18]  I've spoken of this before, but we have to understand that link in that story to political power in the mystery schools.
[02:35:27]  So to close out episode 15 here, Alice at CERN Wonderland.
[02:35:35]  Think about it this way.
[02:35:37]  What we've been given by these people like Lewis Carroll is a glimpse into that other reality and an idea that maybe the mystery schools have held onto this information, trying to give it to those individuals who could accept it and trying to spill it out widely into the society at large and stories like Alice in Wonderland to give us something to work with.

=== Closing Alice at CERN (03:31) ===

[02:36:01]  And that the groups that are hiding and that are great at secrecy.
[02:36:07]  And that are hiding things like the UFO file and the ex steganography related around that, and those black projects and all the rest of it, and the purposes that they have are very much what Blavatsky warned about, which is saying that the mystery schools wouldn't allow certain things to get out because people like that would get their hands on them.
[02:36:25]  So once in a while, I wonder did people like that get their hands on them?
[02:36:29]  And is that why we're in the kind of situation that we're in today?
[02:36:33]  It's a great question.
[02:36:35]  Thank you, everyone.
[02:36:36]  Excellent show.
[02:36:37]  It's great to be here.
[02:36:38]  And Olivia, what can I say?
[02:36:40]  One last question.
[02:36:41]  Unbelievable.
[02:36:42]  Daniel Nuttall wants to know what your favorite movie is.
[02:36:47]  Favorite?
[02:36:48]  That's tricky.
[02:36:49]  That's very tricky.
[02:36:50]  Okay, top three.
[02:36:53]  Well, there are so many great ones.
[02:36:55]  I can tell you, Harvey's in my top 10.
[02:36:58]  Hey, that's what we should have done a rabbit related list.
[02:37:02]  There's no doubt Harvey is great.
[02:37:04]  My God, it's fantastic.
[02:37:07]  I think some of the movies we like to put out there, They Live, I think, is a fantastic movie.
[02:37:14]  Um, I don't know.
[02:37:17]  I like all kinds of movies.
[02:37:18]  I really like JFK.
[02:37:20]  JFK is a fantastic movie.
[02:37:21]  One of the movies I'd like to really point out is The Third Man.
[02:37:25]  I think it's an incredible, fantastic meditation on character.
[02:37:32]  Uh, so I love all Orson Welles' work, and uh, I love North by Northwest.
[02:37:36]  And uh, you know, God, there's great things.
[02:37:39]  The Manifold Earth, uh, you know, just fantastic stuff.
[02:37:44]  I know there's some sci fi stuff I'm leaving out, but of course, Planet of the Apes, the original.
[02:37:48]  I think.
[02:37:48]  Maybe my, if you're talking top three, I would say Excalibur has to be really one of the tops.
[02:37:58]  Um, thank you, everyone.
[02:38:01]  Excellent question, I really appreciate it.
[02:38:02]  And the only question left is, What's on the menu tonight?
[02:38:06]  I need a tequila, big time tequila, it is, but me, I'll just have lemonade, you know.
[02:38:13]  That, yep, thank you, everyone.
[02:38:17]  Uh, it's great to see you, and we will be back actually.
[02:38:20]  Next Friday, we are going to have an incredible recorded interview, which I'm going to do with Catherine Austin Fitz for Friday.
[02:38:28]  And then on Wednesday, July 4th, part 16 of the X series, be here.
[02:38:34]  We're going to be here at 4 o'clock Eastern on July 4th.
[02:38:38]  And I'm going to be looking forward to it.
[02:38:40]  And, you know, we didn't get to all the questions on CERN.
[02:38:43]  There are so many of them.
[02:38:45]  Rest assured, we will address that issue again.
[02:38:48]  We're going to have a big show on CERN coming up.
[02:38:50]  There's no question.
[02:38:51]  It has to be addressed.
[02:38:53]  There's no doubt about it.
[02:38:54]  Thank you, everyone.
[02:38:55]  It's great to see everyone.
[02:38:56]  I love to do the shout outs when we can get our hands on them.
[02:38:59]  Nicholas, Nicholas, Indiana Jones, Christine Taggart, Ice Angel, a cult fan, Roger Wilco.
[02:39:09]  Fantastic.
[02:39:10]  Fantastic.
[02:39:10]  Aaron Moon.
[02:39:11]  Great to have everyone out there.
[02:39:13]  We will see you next week and have a great night.
[02:39:17]  Bye, everybody.
[02:39:18]  Thank you, Olivia.
[02:39:19]  Wow.
[02:39:20]  I mean, really.
[02:39:21]  Great job.
[02:39:23]  I mean, you did a great job, sir.
[02:39:25]  I get it.
[02:39:26]  Self congratulatory.
[02:39:27]  Well, you should be.
[02:39:30]  It's only going to get better here.
[02:39:32]  Have a great night.