Dark Journalist - GARRISON VS CIA DEEP STATE UFO X-PROTECT! DARK JOURNALIST X SERIES XII
Aired: 2018-05-28
Duration: 03:06:04


=== Special Memorial Day Broadcast (04:24) ===

[00:00:02]  And we are live.
[00:00:03]  This is Dark Journalists.
[00:00:04]  It's great to have everyone here on this Memorial Day holiday.
[00:00:09]  And I'm joined, of course, by the lovely Olivia.
[00:00:12]  Hello, everybody.
[00:00:13]  And, you know, tonight's very special because what we decided to do is start a little bit earlier because it's Memorial Day.
[00:00:22]  And we have a special broadcast for you.
[00:00:26]  We're going to go all the way to 7 o'clock in Eastern Time, going into something called X Protect.
[00:00:32]  So this is part 12 of the X series.
[00:00:35]  And,.
[00:00:36]  I want to say right off the bat, thank you to everyone for supporting the X series and getting behind it and really understanding the themes that we're bringing forward.
[00:00:45]  The feedback on this series has been tremendous.
[00:00:48]  And I'm really heartened by that because I know that it is complex, it's rich, it has many winding roads and many side areas.
[00:00:57]  But I'll tell you, we get closer and closer using the X steganography to understanding the deep state picture, to understanding the mystery school picture, and to understanding things that stretch out really.
[00:01:09]  Over so many different avenues of politics, economics, mysticism.
[00:01:16]  You know, we're really in deep, deep territory here.
[00:01:20]  And as we go further and further into the series, let me tell you, we only go deeper because we have the force of all that understanding and all that feedback and all that research behind us as we go along.
[00:01:31]  So, one of the things I do want to point out is in the second part of the show, we are going to have questions.
[00:01:37]  And it's a great crowd out there.
[00:01:38]  I can see already we have some of our real regular.
[00:01:44]  People, actually, I wanted to make a note that if you do go ahead and ask questions for later in the show, just do them all in caps.
[00:01:52]  That's easier for Olivia, and she can tell you how to do it, actually.
[00:01:54]  Just, you know, basically, you lay them out.
[00:01:58]  Everybody knows what to do.
[00:02:00]  Well, no, no, there's always new people.
[00:02:03]  Please ask your questions in all caps.
[00:02:05]  I'm taking questions right away, and so feel free to ask them now.
[00:02:10]  Yeah, and that's the thing.
[00:02:11]  She'll put them aside as we go along here, and that way, by the time we get to the question period, they're all there, and you don't even have to think about it.
[00:02:17]  And neither do we.
[00:02:18]  We can just go right into the questions.
[00:02:20]  Now, one of the things I want to point out is that on Friday we had Catherine Austin Fitz, and we were going into these levels of control in that episode.
[00:02:30]  And we're going to have Catherine back on at the end of June to go into her new report on the space economy, which dovetails nicely with our X episodes for June.
[00:02:40]  So that is going to be absolutely explosive.
[00:02:42]  And I do want to remind everyone before we start to go to darkjournalist.com, sign up for the newsletter.
[00:02:48]  That's the way that we stay in touch.
[00:02:50]  And you know how the touch and go social media aspects and these platforms are.
[00:02:55]  We're never sure if they're going to be there tomorrow.
[00:02:57]  And the best way for us to stay in touch is just that inbox communication.
[00:03:01]  And the more information, the more communication that we have going on, the less and less these networks have the ability to break our stride, as it were.
[00:03:11]  So, one of the important things that we've been working with is the X steganography.
[00:03:17]  And I want to do a quick setup here of what that is for people who are new.
[00:03:21]  And For people who understand it, you know, we're all going deeper with it all the time.
[00:03:26]  But the idea is that over and over again, when researching these deep black projects that were kind of underground technology projects from the 40s and 50s, I kept running across this X coming up as a naming system.
[00:03:42]  And later we would discover that there was a series of X letters left behind by presidents like Eisenhower, who left his X, Project X time capsule to be opened in 2053.
[00:03:54]  And LBJ, who left the X letter.
[00:03:58]  And of course, all of these I've kept very interesting track of, and there's multiple levels to them, but this is kind of the simple version, and I think it's important.
[00:04:09]  I just like to show this one because I think it's just extra special.
[00:04:12]  It is the X envelope at the LBJ Library, if everyone can see that.
[00:04:17]  And that envelope contains information which was only to be released 50 years after LBJ died.

=== The X Letter Time Capsule (15:09) ===

[00:04:26]  So he died in 73, we get it in 2023.
[00:04:28]  That's the way it works with these X letters.
[00:04:31]  And the contents of these letters, interestingly enough, all pertain to the same thing.
[00:04:37]  And I'm going to get into how that works.
[00:04:39]  But what we kept discovering as we were going along here is that the ex steganography was being used as a coding system.
[00:04:47]  And people who were in these high positions, like presidents and directors of the CIA and directors of these technology companies, were using it as it was weaving its way through these government agencies and this kind of corporate apparatus.
[00:05:00]  It was some mix of political, part political, part corporate.
[00:05:05]  And as we got further and further into the X, we also ran across the X with the Nixon time capsule.
[00:05:12]  And there was a reference to Planet X in there.
[00:05:15]  So, you know, we're looking at X being used, and that's kind of the basic level.
[00:05:20]  But then we start to wonder when did they start using it on the FBI level?
[00:05:24]  And that was the fascinating thing because it was all due to this period of time where they had adopted this kind of attitude towards Nikola Tesla's work.
[00:05:36]  They were very worried about what he was developing.
[00:05:39]  In his older age.
[00:05:40]  And they had kind of kept him off from different corporate gigs.
[00:05:43]  They'd kept him off from the larger public.
[00:05:46]  And he was living in this hotel, but it was kind of an impoverished situation and it was very roped in.
[00:05:51]  He couldn't really do anything.
[00:05:52]  He didn't have a lot of access to the media and all the rest of it.
[00:05:56]  And they liked it that way, but they were concerned about what he was developing.
[00:06:00]  He had been kind of put in this artificial shell back in 1909 because they didn't, after he developed the Wycliffe wireless energy towers, they were like, let's get this guy out of here.
[00:06:12]  And JP Morgan saw to that.
[00:06:14]  But he was working and tripping into, with somebody else named John Keeley, this X technology.
[00:06:20]  And the X technology would have shaped the 20th century and the 21st century in a totally different fashion had it come out to the public.
[00:06:27]  But there were reasons on the negative side about suppressing it.
[00:06:31]  And there were also concerns on what I would call the mystery school side about letting that stuff out.
[00:06:36]  And we've covered that extensively on this show.
[00:06:38]  But it comes up again, even though we're talking about Garrison and we're talking about the CIA and X Protect and the things and the lengths that they will go to.
[00:06:47]  To protect the technology.
[00:06:49]  In this episode, again, we find ourselves face to face with the Theosophical Society and with other mystery schools.
[00:06:56]  And so we start to wonder again, what is it that's happening here?
[00:07:00]  And what I've been able to deduce is a kind of formula that we can relate to on this, which is the war of the mystery schools, if we take a look at it, the deep state is just a symptom of the war of these mystery schools.
[00:07:14]  If we understand that, we've got the 20th and 21st centuries in pretty good perspective.
[00:07:20]  And the 19th century, of course, is the foundational period where those wars started to happen under the surface between those secret societies, those mystery schools.
[00:07:30]  Some good, some not so good.
[00:07:33]  But this is the crucial aspect.
[00:07:34]  If we start to understand their battles, then we understand what happens on the surface.
[00:07:39]  We understand the wars.
[00:07:40]  We understand the presidential assassinations.
[00:07:43]  We understand the abuse of power.
[00:07:45]  We understand the corruption, you know, taking certain individuals down, taking certain leaders out, that kind of thing.
[00:07:52]  Everything we get a much more clear picture on.
[00:07:54]  So, a couple of things I want to jump into right away, if that's kind of a good enough explanation of the X, that I'll try to plug in more as we go along.
[00:08:07]  In this episode, we're going to talk about something called the Silence Group, which is the X Protect Group.
[00:08:17]  And they were referred to as the Silence Group among these early UFO researchers and people who were diving deeper into where's all the secrecy coming.
[00:08:25]  From the Air Force side.
[00:08:26]  But in fact, it turns out that in every case, they were protecting the X technology and access to the UFO file.
[00:08:33]  So over and over again, we see this X Protect group come up and sort of scare people, like with the Men in Black type stuff, or we see them interfering in elections, we see them putting pressure on presidents.
[00:08:46]  I mean, it's quite a remarkable thing.
[00:08:49]  Now, the person who coined the term the X, the Silence Group, is Donald Kehoe, who was an Air Force major, and he understood immediately when these reports were coming in that there were two programs one to feed out fluff to the public, and the other to really go for it and research the stuff under wraps.
[00:09:11]  And what happened is the people who would stand up for the openness and the transparency in that period were shut down hard, or as time went along, they were written out of history by this X Protect program.
[00:09:25]  And some of them were so significant that you're going to It's going to take a minute.
[00:09:30]  I mean, we're going to have to all kind of feel the shock with how many people were written out of history.
[00:09:36]  And some of them are so significant that you think, you know, when people talk about the Mandela effect, well, this is the real thing because they're literally taken out of our reality and out of our consciousness, even though they were just as significant as any other major historical figure.
[00:09:50]  It's almost as if we woke up one day and someone wrote Einstein out of the history books.
[00:09:55]  That's where this is going.
[00:09:57]  So we're going to get into them.
[00:09:58]  And I'm going to go into who these X Protect targets were.
[00:10:03]  And I'm going to quickly run off this list and then we're going to jump back and move around and figure out how they did it.
[00:10:10]  So, the silence group of X Protect silenced Donald Kehoe, James Forrestal, who was the first Secretary of Defense of the United States under Truman, and who was working closely with Vannevar Bush, who was heading up MJ 12, which we know is a UFO redevelopment program.
[00:10:30]  President John Kennedy.
[00:10:32]  President Kennedy was so close to moving us into that reality of understanding.
[00:10:37]  The deeper technologies.
[00:10:38]  He was sharing the understanding of the UFO file with the Russians at the time, and this is what they were trying to stop.
[00:10:45]  And the silence group put pressure on him, as we'll see, but inevitably they wound up just assassinating him outright because he was opening up those secrets.
[00:10:55]  And the problem with him was, you know, they had a multitude of problems with him, but they really were not going to take this.
[00:11:02]  This was just beyond because they regarded the UFO file as a higher level of secrecy than the atomic bomb.
[00:11:10]  So, when we think about it that way, this was the feel that they were playing on.
[00:11:15]  And again, one thing I want to stress in the way that we look at what the UFO file is and how this is a little bit different than what a traditional researcher will look at.
[00:11:25]  When we say the UFO file, we're looking at a kind of an effect.
[00:11:30]  So, instead of thinking of it outright, as some people will think, well, that's just Nazi technology or they'll think it's off world technology, what I'm getting at and what we've been able to trace in this series is the effect.
[00:11:44]  And I've named the effect Apotheum.
[00:11:48]  And the reason is it's a reality distorter.
[00:11:51]  It changes the reality, and that's the problem with what's going on there.
[00:11:56]  So, on one level, yes, they're chasing after technology and these things that are flying around.
[00:12:00]  Where are they coming from?
[00:12:01]  What's the origin?
[00:12:02]  But the effect that they create is actually what the issue is because it changes time.
[00:12:07]  We've seen people have missing time.
[00:12:09]  It has all this adverse impact on the environment, all this impact on electricity.
[00:12:16]  And we've seen it kind of destroy nuclear missile systems.
[00:12:20]  That kind of haywire reality distorter is the apothegm, and that's what the problem is on their side with the UFO file, even as they develop it and try to kind of rule the world with it.
[00:12:31]  It's very unpredictable, and this is part of the issue that's been kind of handled through the years by the mystery schools before this became a 21st, 20th century issue.
[00:12:44]  Okay, so the targets: Donald Kehoe, James Forrestal, President Kennedy, Morris K. Jessup.
[00:12:53]  Morris Jessup.
[00:12:55]  Was very important in his early work on UFOs, and those books were some of the best where he took, you know, he was one of the best intellects on it, and he understood it quite well.
[00:13:07]  But he tripped into aspects around the Philadelphia experiment and that whole aspect, which is Project Invisibility and all the rest of it.
[00:13:16]  That's getting into the UFO file, that's getting into that apothegm.
[00:13:20]  And so this guy, who is generally known as an upbeat, you know, had a lot to live for, was doing great, his books were doing great.
[00:13:26]  They find him on a highway.
[00:13:28]  After supposedly wiring it so that he was going to ingest carbon monoxide.
[00:13:35]  This was a guy who was getting close.
[00:13:36]  And they have all these reports that came out through the Navy that they were studying his work.
[00:13:40]  And people were sending them books.
[00:13:44]  And there's a classic story about this fellow, Carlos Allende, who sends this book in of Morris Jessup's.
[00:13:50]  And it has all these notes all over the place.
[00:13:52]  But in those notes, it has all of these Navy secrets.
[00:13:57]  And they're like, what's going on here?
[00:13:58]  So they give Jessup extra attention.
[00:14:00]  They realize he's too much of a threat.
[00:14:02]  Boom, he's out of there.
[00:14:03]  And they always promote the kind of stranger ones in this period.
[00:14:06]  You notice that some of the people, when you go back there, the really kind of far out Venus people, they like that.
[00:14:12]  They were pushing that.
[00:14:13]  And the hardcore people, the scientists, the Keyhoes, the Jessopes, and all those people forget it.
[00:14:18]  They wanted them out of there.
[00:14:22]  They wanted them to swim with the fishes, right, Olivia?
[00:14:25]  So, Russell Varian, Sigurd Varian.
[00:14:32]  I added them.
[00:14:33]  We've done so much work exposing the work of the Rad Lab and Russell Varian and his brother Sigurd, who developed the Klystron and really created all the things that we know of as CERN today the particle accelerators.
[00:14:48]  And they also gave us the really advanced radar that helped us win World War II.
[00:14:53]  They were tapping right into that X UFO file technology.
[00:14:58]  And the deal is with them, once you get Kennedy coming in office, That whole period, they've kind of fallen out of favor.
[00:15:06]  And I think that there's distrust going on in those deep state circles, looking at these guys and saying, we know where they come from, this kind of theosophical, idealistic, philosophical background, the Variants, that is.
[00:15:19]  And so Sig Varian, who's a great pilot, suddenly has a plane crash.
[00:15:24]  And then Russell Varian dies of a heart attack in his 50s.
[00:15:28]  So it's quite unusual.
[00:15:30]  So, there's certainly, in my opinion, X Protect needed to get rid of them completely.
[00:15:37]  Mary Meyer, who was Cord Meyer's wife and JFK's mistress, Cord Meyer being a high ranking CIA officer who was involved in the JFK assassination.
[00:15:46]  And her relationship with JFK was complicated, goes back years, but she was always the person feeding him more and more kind of enlightening things, trying to get him out of this circle of people that were around him who were.
[00:16:00]  Who were really warmongers and wanted to figure out how that national security state could really dominate the world?
[00:16:05]  She's a very important figure, and there's a book called Mary's Mosaic that really gets into her background, but we're going to touch on her today.
[00:16:12]  Mary Sherman, of course, who was deep in the medical program, and a lot of this came out that she was actually killed with a particle accelerator, so that same CERN type technology, and her arm was completely ameliorated by this situation.
[00:16:30]  So she, She in particular had stumbled into something, and they were really sure that they needed to get her off the track.
[00:16:39]  Dorothy Kilgallen was another one.
[00:16:41]  She was a close friend of Malmon Rose.
[00:16:43]  She had interviewed Jack Ruby after the assassination.
[00:16:46]  She was the only person granted that one on one relationship.
[00:16:50]  And she had developed a lot of material that was getting into two issues that X Protect didn't want to deal with the JFK assassination and the UFO file.
[00:17:00]  You put those together, and it's explosive.
[00:17:02]  And you see all these things happen, all these strange deaths.
[00:17:05]  And in some cases, the X Protect group will act in such a way that it's almost like they have to do it.
[00:17:11]  Like, you know, they have to expose themselves and even let us know that it's a fake out, you know, that there's no way that this was a normal situation.
[00:17:21]  So it's a strange thing when they have to move and act in the physical environment.
[00:17:27]  And I'll explain that.
[00:17:29]  One of the other things that they do is they create the classic 1984 term is unperson.
[00:17:37]  And that's where we get to Jim Garrison and his investigation.
[00:17:41]  And one of the things that's interesting about this episode is it's the background is the Kennedy assassination, but in fact, the real subject matter we're going to be covering is when Jim Garrison, who was the New Orleans DA who studied and made the first investigation into the JFK assassination that was a legal investigation, when he was doing it, thinking, hey, you know, I've got this guy subpoenaed, I have this situation, I have this guy down.
[00:18:09]  He's actually running into these very strange, very, very strange resistance points that aren't just, hey, you're getting into a political hotbed here.
[00:18:21]  It's something else, something deeper.
[00:18:23]  And over and over again, he runs up against this deep state aspect.
[00:18:29]  And the deep state aspect is protecting, when he gets to a certain point, the aerospace connections to the Kennedy assassination.
[00:18:36]  That's where our takeoff is for X Protect, because Garrison comes into direct relationship with X Protect.
[00:18:43]  And it's not, you know, it's an unusual situation.
[00:18:48]  It's not that he knows, hey, you know, I'm stumbling into their UFO secrecy aspect, I'm getting into the UFO file, and that's why I'm facing resistance.
[00:18:57]  He's not even aware in the beginning of the resistance level he's getting is intelligence related.
[00:19:02]  It takes him a little while to understand.
[00:19:05]  And once he understands that, he gets on board quite fast.
[00:19:08]  But he's an incredible figure, and he really took on this expert tech group.
[00:19:16]  Along with the CIA, and of course, they're highly related.
[00:19:19]  That is Jim Garrison, who really they've tried to make an unperson in many ways, and people themselves have just fought back against that because Garrison's courage in exposing the CIA's role in the JFK assassination is crucial.

=== Steganography Keys and Puzzles (07:02) ===

[00:19:36]  But as a spokesman years later, they really try to take him out of the picture and they try to make him an unperson.
[00:19:42]  And they try to say, oh, you know, his trial was all made up and all the rest of it.
[00:19:46]  When in fact, he brought some of the best leads in the JFK assassination.
[00:19:53]  Instead, they wanted to feed people this idea, oh, Cubans and mafia, la, la, la, Fidel Castro and this nonsense.
[00:20:02]  In fact, the forces behind the assassination were very apparent to him by the end of his investigation.
[00:20:10]  And in his terms, it was the aerospace companies.
[00:20:14]  And he said, I'll name three of them.
[00:20:16]  And the companies that he named were Boeing, which was crucial at the time.
[00:20:23]  There's a whole thing that comes out of Boeing, too.
[00:20:26]  Lockheed Martin was the other one in General Dynamics.
[00:20:29]  But they had, in effect, become a separate power grid outside of the government.
[00:20:36]  So they formed a major aspect of what Peter Dale Scott would later call the deep state, which is an extra constitutional force that operates that is side by side there with the public state.
[00:20:49]  But it's this kind of covert aspect, this covert wing of a small group.
[00:20:55]  Of interests who occasionally have to move their way into that public state and do these things in order to get a change of policy.
[00:21:03]  And they needed to change Kennedy's policy badly, but we've seen them do it in other cases like 9 11 and the financial coup of 2008.
[00:21:11]  When they need to change the whole dynamic of a society, we see them come out of the shadows.
[00:21:16]  And then there are all these questions when they withdraw and we try to figure out where they are and where they're coming from.
[00:21:21]  And it's funny because in relation to the UFO file, it's some 70 years later.
[00:21:27]  And we're just getting that handle now.
[00:21:29]  And I wanted to say this from reviewing a lot of exceptional work by so many different authors and people that they've all done great work and they've all led us up to this point.
[00:21:39]  However, with this series, we're into something actually new, which can make their research much more rich and make a whole lot more sense because the X Steganography is like a key that's been dropped.
[00:21:54]  It's very much like the Rosetta Stone, in that the story of the Rosetta Stone.
[00:21:59]  Is that when they came across it, it had the hieroglyphs, which were so hard for our archaeologists to make out.
[00:22:06]  It was impossible.
[00:22:07]  We'd see all these buildings and it meant nothing to us.
[00:22:10]  In a way, it was the ultimate steganography because it was there in plain sight.
[00:22:13]  If someone knew how to read hieroglyphs, you could understand everything about Egypt way back when.
[00:22:19]  But it took this Champollion, he was someone who realized oh, wait a minute, this script that we found in this stone.
[00:22:30]  That's the Greek version, you know, that's an Aramaic version, and here's the hieroglyphs, and they all are the same script.
[00:22:36]  So now we know how to read hieroglyphs.
[00:22:38]  It's like putting something up there in Italian, French, and English, but it's the same script.
[00:22:43]  So it was the key to the language.
[00:22:46]  The X steganography is the key to understanding the 70 years of research around the UFO file, and it's the key to understanding so many of the things that the deep state is involved with.
[00:22:58]  That's why I think we're in a new, a very new vista, a whole new territory when we're looking at this, because we didn't have the X steganography publicly until we brought it out in this program.
[00:23:09]  And my own research into it, taking time, it was only when the accumulated evidence was overwhelming that I felt like this is the stuff that we need to bring out public.
[00:23:22]  But at this point, even in the 12 episodes that we've had here, we've shown that the X steganography is.
[00:23:30]  Absolutely, what they're using.
[00:23:31]  So, we have a key that we didn't have even a couple months ago publicly to use.
[00:23:36]  That unlocks so much.
[00:23:38]  You know, there's so much research from people who've been going after the UFO file, going after the deep state, and trying to understand what some of this balance is.
[00:23:48]  But once you get the X, you start to understand the connections by how the X moves through the different offices of the government and through the different corporate channels.
[00:23:59]  That's a crucial thing.
[00:24:00]  And one thing I want to say about the X steganography is this.
[00:24:04]  You know, in an ordinary situation, just so we understand steganography, a cryptology, a cipher, that's a certain way of hiding things, but it lets you know we are looking for something.
[00:24:19]  Something is hidden and we can't get at it, and we're going to spend time trying to crack the code, as it were.
[00:24:26]  Steganography is totally different.
[00:24:27]  Steganography is something where it's hidden in plain sight, but you have to be able to.
[00:24:35]  Read that.
[00:24:35]  So, you know, I show this classic example often of in The Falcon and the Snowman, which is this movie about the NSA and these people getting in trouble for sharing these secrets.
[00:24:47]  And it actually relates to Pine Gap and this prime minister getting thrown out unceremoniously in 1975.
[00:24:54]  And we have a show on Pine Gap coming up, and we've included it in a couple.
[00:24:58]  But what he has to do is on these lampposts, he has to post an X.
[00:25:05]  And then take off, and then those spies see the X, and they know that means meet me at Tuesday night, you know, at such and such a place.
[00:25:13]  So that's a good example of steganography.
[00:25:15]  People walking by it don't understand it in any way, shape, or form, nor do they think it's a code to be understood and a puzzle to really be solved.
[00:25:23]  It's just something that's there, but for people who can see it, it's a whole different matter.
[00:25:29]  It's a puzzle piece that's waiting to kind of open up so many doors.
[00:25:33]  So it's a real key.
[00:25:36]  The X is very much like that.
[00:25:37]  We have to keep that in mind as we get into this X Protect group because they've used it in this very obvious way.
[00:25:45]  Because when they're operating in secrecy, they're still living in a world that is ostensibly free and open.
[00:25:55]  So they're going to be needing to communicate with each other beyond just the kind of communication that you'll get in secret circles.
[00:26:03]  They need a way with something that's out in the open that they can all get at.
[00:26:08]  To send communication back and forth.
[00:26:09]  And the best way to do it was the series of X planes that they developed and the X technology that they've been running through since the 1940s all the way up to now.
[00:26:22]  And what's interesting is if you really get into what the X technology is, like we have in this show, you're going to find yourself in the heart of the 19th century, working with what the mystery schools were doing with the emerging technology and some of those things that came up.

=== Maintaining Official Stories (14:39) ===

[00:26:38]  And we've covered it here with John Keeley and Nikola Tesla.
[00:26:42]  Those things all tie in together.
[00:26:45]  I mean, they're directly related because, of course, when we get later into Tesla's work, we're looking at John Trump being brought in.
[00:26:53]  And that's something else that we've pointed out on this show.
[00:26:56]  And one thing I want to say about John Trump, who was uncle to President Trump, is the more I study him and the more work that we get into relating to John Trump, it's kind of amazing the level of knowledge Trump has going in as president, much more than the kind of fluke businessman who just showed up on the scene.
[00:27:21]  So that's something I think that helps us now get into it now.
[00:27:25]  All right, let's take a quick look at some key players here.
[00:27:32]  This is President Kennedy, and beside him is Gordon Cooper, who later would write a letter to the United Nations regarding the off world visitors.
[00:27:46]  And this picture, interestingly enough, here I'll show that again.
[00:27:51]  That's Cooper over here.
[00:27:54]  This picture is six days before Kennedy is assassinated.
[00:27:57]  And he went and visited NASA.
[00:27:59]  This is his visit.
[00:28:01]  And one of the things, the message he was carrying was, I want to share this information with the Soviets regarding UFOs.
[00:28:11]  Now, he also was talking about doing a joint space mission program.
[00:28:15]  So there's no hostile space race idea.
[00:28:18]  Let's do this together.
[00:28:20]  And according to Khrushchev's son, who his dad was leading the Soviet Union at the time, Khrushchev was like, he's really being sincere about this.
[00:28:30]  I'm going to do it with them.
[00:28:31]  And they had worked this out.
[00:28:35]  But one of the things that Kennedy wanted to do here as a sign of good faith was share the information around the high risk UFO cases.
[00:28:46]  And this is what the documents that have come out have shown us.
[00:28:50]  Some of those documents reside at the JFK Library and are completely undisputed.
[00:28:54]  And then others come from different sources, Freedom of Information Act requests.
[00:29:01]  So there are levels of authenticity, but certainly the actual files that JFK gave out.
[00:29:09]  That the library still has here in Boston.
[00:29:12]  You know, I mean, there's no getting around that he was moving this program forward only 10 days before he died.
[00:29:18]  So that's just a fact of history.
[00:29:20]  Very often people like to say, well, we don't know what happened back there.
[00:29:23]  Well, yeah, we do.
[00:29:27]  That's an important thing, I think, for us to keep in mind also as we go.
[00:29:31]  Now, one of the crucial factors in this environment of Kennedy saying, I need to, you know, share parts of the UFO file with the Soviet Union is the X Protect group.
[00:29:43]  Has been spending time since the late 40s, completely shutting down any outside attention on the UFO file.
[00:29:53]  And here's how it works we have the waves of sightings, and you have the whole hysteria in the 50s around it.
[00:30:00]  As a matter of fact, it's much deeper even than when we look back on it, or we realize it's absolutely stunning.
[00:30:05]  There are newspapers full of the stuff.
[00:30:07]  UFOs were all over the skies in the 1950s.
[00:30:11]  So, what was happening there?
[00:30:14]  You know, when we look at it, we have to understand that there's two different groups involved.
[00:30:20]  So, an MJ12 style group, which we've gone through here, which is Vannevar Bush managing a group, being the top scientists from the US, managing these groups, redeveloping the technology, taking a look at it, studying it, trying to figure out its application.
[00:30:38]  That's kind of the positive group.
[00:30:40]  So, you know, those are the creators and the guardians of the X technology.
[00:30:47]  They're the people who create.
[00:30:49]  This system to study it.
[00:30:52]  But the other group, X Protect, is very different.
[00:30:56]  Their goal is to make sure that nothing about the UFO file ever comes out that's not under their umbrella of stories.
[00:31:05]  So if something factual relating to the UFO file and this strange effect, reality distortion effect, comes out, then they need to get to the root of it, discredit it, or eliminate the source.
[00:31:17]  So they have a lot of tools at their disposal.
[00:31:21]  Behest to be able to accomplish this.
[00:31:23]  And what's interesting, when we look at the way that the CIA operated, they seem like the best candidates for the people who were running X Protect.
[00:31:36]  And X Protect, however, would be their most covert wing.
[00:31:40]  That is, nothing that is identifiable in that structure.
[00:31:45]  So even when we get to the JFK assassination, there are elements like the fired CIA director Dulles.
[00:31:52]  Who is there and is a public figure and is actually involved in the Warren Commission?
[00:31:56]  That's the public play of it.
[00:31:58]  But there's a whole host of parties that he represents.
[00:32:03]  And that's the X Protect that I'm speaking about.
[00:32:07]  So I want to understand, I want us to get a handle on the fact that before we get into the Garrison stuff and what happens with him when he tries to go at the real points and show that the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination, he instead finds himself dancing with X Protect.
[00:32:23]  But X Protect, it's not like Vannevar Bush and the committee who's studying this material, the scientists, have anything to do with this elimination group.
[00:32:33]  The X Protect group is totally different.
[00:32:36]  So I don't want us to think of them as some kind of MJ12 majestic group hanging out doing things back there.
[00:32:43]  Those people are making the scientific decisions about the usefulness of the tech that's being redeveloped, they're studying effects.
[00:32:52]  That's different.
[00:32:54]  X Protect is like if this gets out.
[00:32:58]  Then our future is ruined and there's too much pressure on us.
[00:33:02]  We need to eliminate people in these circles who are bringing the real aspects of the UFO file out.
[00:33:09]  X Protect has a very simple agenda, which is they need to maintain the official story around the UFO file.
[00:33:16]  Simple.
[00:33:17]  When it comes to political actions, they need to maintain the official story around things like the JFK assassination or other deep events that change history.
[00:33:27]  So their goal, they're patterned after this enforcement arm.
[00:33:33]  And their goal is to keep the narrative in place, anything at all costs.
[00:33:38]  They have to be on the winning side.
[00:33:40]  So when X Protect gets involved, things get very, very loose, though, I will also say.
[00:33:47]  That is, they're so public about their means of silencing or eliminating people involved in opening up the aspects of the UFO file that I think over and over again, it's almost like an overplay where.
[00:34:07]  They're doing things and people are starting to understand what's going on.
[00:34:11]  So it's like they have to be so public about it.
[00:34:14]  Even the public execution of John F. Kennedy is really such an abrupt thing to do to change an entire society, to change policy.
[00:34:26]  But what it lets at least half the population know is that there's something wrong with the governance structure.
[00:34:31]  That's how X Protect works, too.
[00:34:34]  It's kind of a desperation move, in a sense.
[00:34:38]  And they're absolutely committed, regardless of the cost, to coming out on the winning side.
[00:34:44]  But strangely enough, what's happened is a kind of schizophrenia has developed in culture generally, where we understand that they're playing the game.
[00:34:52]  And we understand that, you know, we'll take it into pure terms over the last decade, things like chemtrails or depopulation and these things.
[00:35:03]  Boy, I mean, you know, we have a pretty good understanding of what's going on in that larger picture and how they're harvesting the lower level.
[00:35:12]  In the 50s and 60s, There were very small minorities who understood how this worked.
[00:35:19]  So, in a way, groups like X Protect have sort of shown themselves.
[00:35:24]  And I think people kind of subconsciously recoil at that kind of power management, that kind of treacherous wall of secrecy.
[00:35:38]  I don't think it sits well with people subconsciously.
[00:35:40]  And this is where we get into that situation where there's a cycle of disrespect between the leadership.
[00:35:46]  And the citizens on the ground.
[00:35:48]  And this is kind of what we're face to face with when we get into this episode.
[00:35:52]  Okay, great.
[00:35:52]  How are we doing over there, Olivia?
[00:35:53]  Fantastic.
[00:35:54]  Excellent questions already.
[00:35:57]  That's awesome.
[00:35:58]  We can actually take a question while I get into position for the Garrison stuff, if you've got one you want to ask.
[00:36:05]  Well, you know, I don't know if you're going to dip into this later.
[00:36:07]  You're going to talk about RFK Jr. at all?
[00:36:10]  Oh, yeah.
[00:36:10]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:36:11]  Well, RFK Jr. has come out and he has a book coming out where he's talking about, you know, what's happening is we have the.
[00:36:20]  The RFK anniversary is coming up on June 5th.
[00:36:24]  That's the 50th anniversary of Robert Kennedy getting assassinated while running for president in 1968.
[00:36:31]  And what happened recently is RFK Jr., who's been very vocal on controversial issues like vaccines and the connection with autism and things of that nature, he's certainly not a guy who shies away from a controversy.
[00:36:46]  I'll give him credit.
[00:36:48]  And basically, he came out and said, you know, My dad understood that the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination.
[00:36:57]  And he actually revealed recently that he went to meet Sirhan Sirhan because he's convinced now that Sirhan was being used as a Manchurian candidate.
[00:37:05]  So this is going to be explosive, the more that's coming out about it.
[00:37:09]  We're going to do a show on the RFK assassination, and we have a lot of feelers out on this story.
[00:37:15]  So I think history is opening up here.
[00:37:18]  And it's because it's becoming too obvious.
[00:37:21]  To deny.
[00:37:23]  I think that's an important fact to keep in mind.
[00:37:26]  And interestingly enough, that story came out in the Washington Post, which we know is a CIA front.
[00:37:31]  And I wondered instantly what are they doing running this story?
[00:37:36]  Do they realize that they need to renegotiate the history there?
[00:37:41]  Are they going to try to put a spin on this because they understand people just won't accept that official story around the Kennedy assassinations?
[00:37:48]  You know, it's very simple.
[00:37:49]  I speak of it as a war that took place 50 years ago.
[00:37:52]  And what we're doing, we're kind of Going back before the war to figure out what was going on here before the war broke out and they blew everything up.
[00:38:03]  But that war wasn't called a war back then, but certainly the war between those groups, you know, when leaders get killed, that's a war situation.
[00:38:13]  So, you know, when you look at a situation where, for example, RFK, JFK, and MLK were assassinated in the 60s, but the people who were in power, like J. Edgar Hoover, LBJ, Nixon, You know, they didn't die these mysterious deaths, so it's pretty clear which side was on the winning team.
[00:38:34]  But I think that is absolutely fascinating.
[00:38:35]  We're seeing more and more of this history break.
[00:38:38]  Yeah, that's a good one.
[00:38:42]  And I think the other thing that I want to remind everyone to do is make sure absolutely go to darkjournalist.com and sign up for the newsletter because one of those things that we've done, you know, in creating this like newsletter, it goes out once a week, shows up in your inbox, and you're able to stay on top of what we're doing with the live shows.
[00:39:03]  And also, if anything breaking happens, we have direct access with each other.
[00:39:07]  I do find it mysterious how many people.
[00:39:10]  Tell me that they do not get notifications from YouTube.
[00:39:13]  And so that's why people subscribe to the newsletter and subscribe to Dark Journalist, the site.
[00:39:19]  So you get a whole different level of interacting with us and the work that we're doing here.
[00:39:25]  And my big thing now that I've really understood looking back over a few years is getting behind the things that are important.
[00:39:34]  You know, with me, it's getting behind the work of somebody like Catherine Austin Fitz or Dr. Joseph Farrell.
[00:39:43]  Who did want to join us for this show, but he wasn't able to make it.
[00:39:46]  But he is going to come on and talk about the kind of Garrison affair with us shortly.
[00:39:55]  But I think it's important to get behind those sites, you know, like Giza Death Star and Cryptagon, Forbidden Knowledge TV.net.
[00:40:03]  It's Alexander Bruce.
[00:40:05]  You know, these are the sites that we need to kind of keep this flow going of the good information.
[00:40:11]  Get behind that stuff, support that stuff.
[00:40:14]  And let's collectively kind of support the things that are important to us when we're getting into these deep levels, because not a lot of these sites, not a lot of these media outlets can handle the kind of information that we need and that we're dealing with.
[00:40:30]  And I think getting more and more away from the sites where those people are just yelling at you and saying, wake up, we're waking up, and inciting everyone to anger to get us all into this kind of hyped up state.
[00:40:43]  For me, that's nothing like waking up.
[00:40:46]  I think you have to get into a kind of objective state in order to arrive at good conclusions about what's happening.
[00:40:54]  And it's not in an excitable state, you know.
[00:40:57]  I mean, it's good.
[00:40:58]  Sometimes you need to get angry about things, but I think that there's a tool in media to really manipulate people with an excited state.
[00:41:06]  And what I think we can get the best information when we are objective and clearly getting at what the facts are.
[00:41:13]  Okay, so we run a little bit into.

=== Guy Bannister and SMX (02:25) ===

[00:41:18]  The case where Garrison starts to get rolling with this.
[00:41:22]  And what Garrison does is in 1963, he is the DA of New Orleans.
[00:41:29]  And when the assassination happens, it just so happens that somebody says to him, Hey, turns out Oswald was here last summer.
[00:41:38]  And Oswald had spent time working out of the office of Guy Bannister.
[00:41:44]  Well, Guy Bannister, for anyone who's been watching the X shows, shows up over and over again with the X steganography.
[00:41:49]  And A couple of things that I think are going to come in handy here.
[00:41:56]  And this one, I've got a little bit of everything here.
[00:42:00]  My God, this is going to be a challenge.
[00:42:03]  All right, this is Guy Bannister, who was the FBI head of the office in Chicago and had a kind of illustrious career working with covert elements and would infiltrate college campuses trying to get information on radicals.
[00:42:21]  You know, he's a real hardcore J. Edgar Hoover kind of guy.
[00:42:24]  But as it turned out over and over again, the information that Garrison was getting was that Lee Harvey Oswald was working for him.
[00:42:32]  And as a matter of fact, he was working out of the same office.
[00:42:38]  So, you know, and later in interviewing his secretary and all the rest of it, she's like, oh, yeah, Oswald was in here all the time.
[00:42:46]  So, what was happening was this ultimate right winger, for some reason, is hanging out with what they've tried to portray as a lefty Lee Oswald.
[00:42:54]  Well, of course, if Oswald is working for right wing Guy Bannister, then all of that stuff is an intelligence cover to make Lee Oswald look like.
[00:43:02]  The crazy commie who shoots Kennedy a few months later.
[00:43:06]  This is absolutely crucial information, and the figure of Guy Bannister becomes more important because he's at the heart of X Protect.
[00:43:14]  So we start to think, oh, he's a key figure in the Kennedy assassination.
[00:43:18]  Well, that's true.
[00:43:20]  Garrison said he thought he was the most important figure in the Kennedy assassination that he ran across in his investigation.
[00:43:27]  But what was he doing in the late 40s during the UFO sightings?
[00:43:33]  He was the FBI chief.
[00:43:36]  Agent studying in out of Montana, studying the UFO reports, going all through the Northwest with those reports.

=== How the Deep State Operates (11:46) ===

[00:43:43]  And there are all these newspaper clippings of him.
[00:43:47]  And I think what happens is we start to get a handle on the fact that Guy Bannister is the original, he creates SM X, which is Security Matter X in the FBI files.
[00:43:59]  Now, they had an X designation relating to the Tesla file, but SMX, Security Matter X, He's studying the UFO file aspects on the security matter level, and he's the deep investigator on it.
[00:44:12]  Turns out a decade later, he is creating this whole scenario where they're setting up Lee Harvey Oswald to be, you know, acting like he's in support of Cuban communism and he's visited Russia and he wants to, you know, renounce his citizenship and all this kind of thing.
[00:44:30]  It's going to be crucial that they give him that cover because when the president is assassinated, they want to be able to grab him.
[00:44:39]  And just say, hey, look, this crazy communist did it, and then wipe him out before he has a chance to say, hey, no, I was part of the CIA.
[00:44:47]  So, what they were using Oswald for, and it's been the conclusion of a lot of different deep researchers.
[00:44:53]  So, I'm not saying this off the cuff.
[00:44:56]  This is the result of five decades of research.
[00:45:00]  The best research on the Kennedy assassination is from Professor Peter Dale Scott, who coined the term the deep state and who's been on this show many times.
[00:45:07]  And I've spent many hours with Professor Scott.
[00:45:11]  And I spent so much time with his books, actually, that his books, for me, the American Deep State, gives us the whole picture of how that deep state operates.
[00:45:20]  And the kind of clumsy way that the mainstream media uses the term is ridiculous.
[00:45:25]  And I don't think a lot of people in alternative media know what they're talking about when they say deep state, unfortunately.
[00:45:31]  Deep State was coined by Professor Scott, and it doesn't relate to bureaucrats that are left over from different political institutions.
[00:45:42]  And administrations over time.
[00:45:43]  That's nonsense.
[00:45:45]  The deep state is, in Professor Scott's terms, a system that develops that is extra constitutional.
[00:45:53]  And it's at the intersection of intelligence groups on one hand, corporate forces, Wall Street forces, oil companies, and intelligence agencies with organized crime, and then intelligence agencies and the contracting agencies that they hire out to kind of do their dirty work that they don't want to be accountable for.
[00:46:15]  Constitutes a deep state, a covert arm that can act in an extra constitutional fashion against the public state.
[00:46:22]  So you have a covert state and an overt state, and they can interact that way.
[00:46:27]  So this is what a deep state is.
[00:46:28]  It's no bureaucrat that we can point to and say, hey, he's a deep state guy.
[00:46:32]  Look, he's from the Clinton administration and he stayed over, you know, or, you know, he's an Obama guy, but he's still in the Trump administration.
[00:46:42]  The deep state isn't a structure like that.
[00:46:47]  It's not like a classic structure that we can point our finger on and say, hey, that's a deep state bureaucrat.
[00:46:53]  Check it out.
[00:46:54]  What you can do is you can see deep state aspirations and connections with people.
[00:47:00]  For example, who are connected with the continuity of government program in the United States.
[00:47:05]  So, deep staters like Donald Rumsfeld and Cheney, they have a history that traces them back to the continuity of government stuff.
[00:47:12]  So, we can see that they're deep state players.
[00:47:14]  That's how the deep state operates.
[00:47:16]  And that's kind of in a capsulized form.
[00:47:17]  But I think it's important because I've seen people just kind of throwing this thing around saying, you know, you would get the impression that the deep state was completely a Democratic thing and the Republicans were all the good guys, which doesn't make any sense at all.
[00:47:31]  And, you know, I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat.
[00:47:34]  But I do see this kind of grabbing people in the other team and saying, well, they're deep state, you know.
[00:47:43]  And that has nothing to do.
[00:47:44]  The deep state is not Republican or Democrat.
[00:47:46]  The deep state moves through those people for what it wants.
[00:47:50]  Now, let's talk about how deep state is related to X Protect, because X Protect is a group that's dedicated to maintaining the official story on the UFO file.
[00:48:00]  X Protect is responsible for what we have in the public.
[00:48:05]  Realm for stories like The Men in Black, for situations where we see these UFO investigators getting assassinated.
[00:48:14]  And it was a very dangerous business in the 50s and 60s to be involved with this.
[00:48:19]  So, what's fascinating is we look back at a lot of those guys and we don't understand just kind of the yeoman's work that they were doing bringing this out.
[00:48:29]  So, this one is Frank Scully, and I highly recommend his books because they try to shut him down so hard.
[00:48:38]  But what happened was he was informed about this crash that took place in New Mexico called the Aztec crash in the 40s.
[00:48:48]  And he got firsthand information about the crash, the retrieval operation, and all the rest of it.
[00:48:53]  So he was right at the heart of the UFO file.
[00:48:55]  And of course, in popular culture, they use the term Scully in the X Files, which is quite amusing, but it's a reference to him and the work that he did.
[00:49:06]  But one of the things that he did was he laid out exactly.
[00:49:12]  How that operation was conducted, what they got from it, what the systems were that were involved.
[00:49:16]  And instantly there was an FBI clampdown on him.
[00:49:19]  They try to say, oh, he's involved with hoaxers, he's this, he's that.
[00:49:23]  And they really kind of tarnished his name back there and harassed him.
[00:49:26]  And this is X Protect going into overdrive.
[00:49:29]  Now, what happens shortly after that is we see that, you know, what they can do goes into a different range of things.
[00:49:39]  One of the things that they can do is just make somebody kind of.
[00:49:45]  You make their lives miserable.
[00:49:47]  They can give them a bad reputation and they can, you know, get them into a situation that's very uncomfortable, as they did Garrison.
[00:49:56]  But I think one of the worst things that we've seen them do is when they actually go into and create situations of, you know, like rendition or assassination, you know, in order to achieve a result around people getting silenced.
[00:50:12]  And what happened was there was a guy named Albert Bender who was also.
[00:50:19]  Like Scully, he had information around the UFO thing.
[00:50:22]  And they were getting very annoyed with him because his publications were getting very popular.
[00:50:27]  And he said, well, he understood what was going on with the whole flying saucer mystery and all of the UFO file reports.
[00:50:36]  So he comes forward to do this and he gets visited by these men in black.
[00:50:40]  Now, the men in black story is interesting because, of course, it's been overblown in culture and all the rest of it.
[00:50:47]  And people have made kind of a mockery of the whole thing.
[00:50:50]  But nonetheless, it was a real phenomenon that very important people wrote about.
[00:50:55]  One of those people was Frank Edwards, and he wrote this book.
[00:51:00]  Which was flying saucers, serious business.
[00:51:04]  Now, his key focus was on the men in black.
[00:51:09]  And Edwards was no slouch as a journalist.
[00:51:12]  He was highly respected in circles, writing about all kinds of different things.
[00:51:16]  Here is a picture of him with Harry Truman, and Harry Truman of the, of course, managing the UFO file hardcore, and he of the President X election of 1944.
[00:51:31]  There's no doubt at all that Scully.
[00:51:34]  And Edwards were known to the political class.
[00:51:38]  And, you know, aspects of the political class enjoyed this relationship back and forth with them.
[00:51:43]  Other people in that political class just said, we have to get rid of these people.
[00:51:47]  That's why they threatened people like Bender and got rid of some of those early UFO guys.
[00:51:53]  And then later on, we have people like James McDonald, who was a leading scientific voice around UFOs, and he's found suicided.
[00:52:03]  You know, and Jessup, who I referred to.
[00:52:06]  Is writing really the key books in the 50s about the UFO file.
[00:52:09]  You know, he's a real intellectual, gifted writer.
[00:52:15]  And, you know, they found him on the highway, as I explained.
[00:52:17]  So the suicide trick was one of the best ones that they used.
[00:52:25]  And of course, we've seen later, you know, when they wanted to do things like get at the really good writers who were talking about the crack epidemic and the CIA relation to it, we saw some really hardcore crackdown and like, Suddenly, everyone's the new fashionable thing was to commit suicide.
[00:52:45]  So, very, very strange and unfortunate.
[00:52:47]  But in the case of X Protect, we see this is one of their key patterns.
[00:52:55]  This is one of their key things that they use, one of their key tools.
[00:53:01]  So, just a quick thing about Bender.
[00:53:06]  Actually, I should go right into what Bender and Edwards were getting at was that whenever people would have these UFO encounters, especially if it went deeper than just a sighting, then they would get these visits from men in black who would act very awkwardly around them and subtly threaten them, shall we say.
[00:53:29]  And over and over again, it was, it would be better if you didn't talk about this, you know, that kind of thing.
[00:53:35]  But they had a very unusual appearance.
[00:53:37]  And very often people would say, well, they appear to be Asian.
[00:53:41]  But they're these men in these suits and they're kind of short and they have impeccable cars, but they're very old.
[00:53:50]  And, you know, and they're guys in their 40s who are just really well dressed.
[00:53:55]  So, John Keel, who became a follow up on the work of Edwards and Bender, he decided that he was really going to study these men in black.
[00:54:04]  And of course, we get so many things from Keel, like the Mothman prophecies and all the rest of it.
[00:54:08]  One of the things that he discovered that I think is fascinating that the Actual description bothered him about them being Asian.
[00:54:15]  It didn't make sense.
[00:54:16]  So he decided that what they were saying when they were talking about them being Asian was they were just kind of using a catch all term for some quality about their features.
[00:54:27]  And so he decided, I'm going to show them 12 different races.
[00:54:31]  I'm going to have them pick out characteristics that look the most like the men in black.
[00:54:35]  And so he laid them all out on the table.
[00:54:37]  And what it turned out that they actually looked like was not Asian at all.
[00:54:41]  They looked like Laplanders.
[00:54:46]  You know, that whole kind of mystery about Laplanders and, you know, mostly up in Finland and Sweden, and those people that really have a fascinating history.
[00:54:59]  This is an example of a Laplander.
[00:55:02]  And so we can see that somebody at a quick glance dealing with someone, they would say, you know, there's something that could be denoted as Asian, but not really.
[00:55:13]  So, in fact, what they were trying to say about these people was that.
[00:55:18]  They look like laplanders.
[00:55:20]  So that gives us a hint and an idea of what's going on with these men in black and what's happening with the UFO X Protect group that Garrison runs into as we get along here.

=== Introducing a Fascinating Key Figure (14:25) ===

[00:55:29]  How are we doing over there, Olivia?
[00:55:30]  Fantastic.
[00:55:32]  Excellent.
[00:55:33]  It's great to have so many people joining us on Memorial Day here.
[00:55:37]  And I was glad to get an opportunity to do a show on Memorial Day because, you know, I like doing shows on holidays.
[00:55:47]  And I also figured that if we did it a little earlier, Might be good for a lot of you guys.
[00:55:53]  So I'm very glad that everyone's around because you never know if anyone's going to be around for the holidays, but it's a huge crowd and it's terrific to have everyone here.
[00:56:02]  Now, the person who coined the term, let's see if I have this picture here.
[00:56:09]  The person who coined the term silence group is Donald Kehoe, who I described earlier.
[00:56:16]  But Donald Kehoe, he was convinced that the silence group, which is X Protect, That they were committed, that they were kind of vulnerable at this stage of the game because the UFO thing was real.
[00:56:29]  And he was right.
[00:56:30]  So, that the kind of techniques that they used, they would use pretty dark techniques later also.
[00:56:36]  But in the 40s and 50s, it's particularly dark.
[00:56:39]  And it starts off with getting rid of James Forrestal, the Secretary of Defense.
[00:56:45]  And that is done so unceremoniously by throwing him out the window and pretending it's a suicide that it raises eyebrows.
[00:56:53]  And as a close friend of Kennedy's, it gives Kennedy a heads up.
[00:56:56]  About what's involved here, because Forrestal was a member of the group that was managing the UFO file.
[00:57:04]  And his position, his stated position, was according to sources that are pretty good, I think, he didn't like the idea of the secrecy around the UFO file.
[00:57:19]  This is early on, this is the Truman administration.
[00:57:22]  Let's take a picture.
[00:57:24]  Quick look.
[00:57:25]  That's Forrestal in the middle with Harry Truman.
[00:57:29]  And Forrestal had a great life.
[00:57:31]  He was a partner at Dylan Reed.
[00:57:35]  You know, Dylan Reed is the same company that Catherine Austin Fitz was a partner in years later.
[00:57:41]  Huge Wall Street firm.
[00:57:43]  He was the Secretary of the Navy, the first Secretary of Defense.
[00:57:45]  I mean, the guy had impeccable credentials and he did an impeccable job.
[00:57:50]  Suddenly, you know, after becoming the Secretary of Defense with the National Security Act and the way that they broke out the agencies after World War II, He gets involved and he gets invited to manage the UFO file.
[00:58:07]  And he starts to realize oh my God, you know, this whole thing about off world technology is real.
[00:58:13]  I'm dealing with it.
[00:58:14]  But whatever it is that happens with him, and there have been suggestions that he had actual telepathic communication with some of the kind of specimens that they got from these crashes.
[00:58:29]  And even though that sounds far out, I'm going to back it up with physicist Robert Sawbarker here shortly about that whole aspect.
[00:58:37]  But interestingly enough, this is a shot of Kennedy visiting Forrestal's gravesite after he becomes president.
[00:58:46]  That's an important thing because they were close, and Forrestal had taken him to Germany after the devastation of World War II, taken him to Berlin and shown him that whole thing and really clued him in.
[00:58:59]  They were both Catholics.
[00:59:01]  They were tight when you get right down to it.
[00:59:03]  And this kind of getting rid of Forrestal over the UFO file rocked Kennedy very early on.
[00:59:10]  It's kind of a marker of where we can see the situation is going to go and the showdown is going to go between Kennedy and the CIA.
[00:59:17]  And the CIA, I have no doubt that X Protect borrows the kind of know how and personnel from the CIA to do these things.
[00:59:27]  So it's a crucial thing when we're talking about X Protect, you know, it's a deep element, a deep covert aspect in that covert arm of the CIA.
[00:59:39]  This picture is also important because it's Forrestal with Vannevar Bush.
[00:59:46]  And Vannevar Bush was the head of MJ 12, as we know, not from the MJ 12 documents.
[00:59:52]  But from Wobbler Smith in Canada, who gave us that information.
[00:59:58]  So we're in a position where we have official documents now that say that.
[01:00:04]  And a lot of people like to instead, when examining this, the incredible whitewash around it is like, well, MJ12 documents could have been faked or whatever.
[01:00:14]  Well, now we have these other documents which are on file with the Canadian government that show.
[01:00:22]  That Vannevar Bush was in charge of the UFO program.
[01:00:25]  So, game over on that one.
[01:00:26]  There's no more discussion on that.
[01:00:29]  But I think it's important because we can see with the X Protect that Forrestal had a difference of opinion on the secrecy side with this.
[01:00:39]  And they had invited in the masters of secrecy, Vannevar Bush, and the Rad Lab.
[01:00:45]  And in that Rad Lab from MIT, which I think is an important thing to point out here, were the variants.
[01:00:52]  We've done a lot of coverage on the variants, and we're going to do a lot more because people really need to know who these guys are.
[01:00:57]  They really jump started that whole world of Silicon Valley.
[01:01:02]  In fact, by creating the Kleistram, they created this whole new level of technology.
[01:01:09]  But from there, they went further with Robert Terman, and that's where Silicon Valley comes from.
[01:01:14]  So we need to understand the roots of that thing.
[01:01:17]  Go back before Steve Jobs, go back before all that stuff to understand where did that wave come from.
[01:01:23]  And once we do that, then The variants are in the very heart of it, but the variants are very much in the heart of the Theosophical Society, as we remember.
[01:01:34]  John Varian was the founder of the Theosophical Halcyon Temple.
[01:01:39]  So, I always want to include this so we stay on course mentally with the deep state thing, even the X Protect thing.
[01:01:48]  We're talking about underneath the war of the mystery schools, they're there, they have differences of opinion, have led to a kind of open warfare between those groups.
[01:01:59]  So, um When we talk about the deep state, we get into that.
[01:02:03]  In my opinion, the deep state is a symptom of that war.
[01:02:07]  So we have to keep that as a regular principle and going forward to get a better idea.
[01:02:12]  That's why theosophy keeps coming up.
[01:02:14]  But you know what?
[01:02:15]  Even if I wanted to ignore the theosophical aspects that come up in the ex steganography research around the technology and around the UFO file, I couldn't because they are throughout.
[01:02:25]  I'm not sure how they have not been connected before.
[01:02:29]  I think it's the ex steganography that has given us the ability here, you and I, to connect this together.
[01:02:37]  And Olivia, too, who really can be an excellent pair of eyes on this stuff.
[01:02:47]  Okay, so we have Kennedy here.
[01:02:50]  Kennedy, deep discussions with Truman and deep discussions with Eisenhower.
[01:02:56]  And they're sharing with him look, you know, the military industrial complex aspect, what Garrison called the industrial complex, is out of control.
[01:03:05]  And this is the thing that you need to rein in.
[01:03:07]  And Truman's saying, by the way, I created the CIA.
[01:03:09]  Here's some of the things that you can use to kind of rein those guys in.
[01:03:12]  And Kennedy will spend three years literally trying to rein in the CIA from the things that they're doing and bring the power back under the presidential umbrella.
[01:03:20]  Ultimately, when he gets some headway going on that, they decide we need to step up this game and get rid of him because who's coming after him but Bobby Kennedy?
[01:03:31]  This will be a dynasty.
[01:03:33]  That'll ruin all of our plans.
[01:03:35]  So he runs straight on into those forces in the deep state that decide we need a revolt against the presidency.
[01:03:44]  Now, I think a lot of JFK researchers would agree with me on that.
[01:03:49]  The aspect that they probably don't.
[01:03:51]  Understand as well is what we're bringing forward relating to the UFO file and John F. Kennedy.
[01:03:58]  So, the presidential assassination, in my opinion, the things that they were looking for, the war with Cuba, the militaristic stance, and all the rest of it, do give them all the incentive they need to remove Kennedy.
[01:04:11]  It's a fact.
[01:04:12]  But I think it's the UFO file that makes them act.
[01:04:15]  And where I'm backed up on that is from an unusual source, which is Douglas Caddy, who I've had on this program talking about his good friend E. Howard Hunt, who was a CIA super spy.
[01:04:27]  Now, Hunt told Caddy before he went to prison that for Watergate crimes, and Hunt has an incredible resume of criminal activity back there.
[01:04:40]  But one of the things that he told him was that Kennedy was assassinated over the UFO file.
[01:04:46]  So that gives us a direct connection to it.
[01:04:51]  We understand that Kennedy knew more than the other presidents relating to the UFO file.
[01:04:56]  We understand that he really.
[01:04:57]  Was the one involved in warfare with the CIA to get some of that power back.
[01:05:02]  And it's a crucial thing to understand.
[01:05:04]  And what happens is Garrison going into this situation, he walks into that.
[01:05:10]  He is trying to figure out the assassination.
[01:05:12]  He's figuring out, oh my God, the CIA was involved in this thing.
[01:05:16]  But it's the X Protect end of it, which is such a covert arm of the whole thing.
[01:05:22]  That's what makes this story so unusual.
[01:05:25]  Now, since I mentioned Theosophy, before I dive into the Whole hardcore.
[01:05:34]  Well, I guess there's it's all connected anyway, but I want to introduce someone here who really is going to be a fascinating key along the lines of the research that we've been doing with the X steganography.
[01:05:52]  And that is Arthur Middleton Young.
[01:05:59]  This fellow is so important because he.
[01:06:04]  Is the person who created the Bell helicopter.
[01:06:08]  And he was an unusually gifted engineer.
[01:06:11]  And he really had an incredible mindset.
[01:06:17]  He was almost one of those kind of walking genius guys.
[01:06:22]  And one of the interesting things about him is when he developed the Bell helicopter, he gets involved with all of these X programs.
[01:06:35]  And suddenly, he turns up a decade afterwards as a Theosophical teacher.
[01:06:42]  I'm not kidding.
[01:06:42]  It's theosophy again.
[01:06:45]  And he, if anyone out there is familiar with the Nine and that whole group of activity about Paharich putting these people together who were kind of wealthy people involved in spiritualism and kind of a 20th century update of the Orphic Circle groups that we've covered with Bulwer Lytton from the 19th century.
[01:07:09]  What's so fascinating about Arthur Young is that.
[01:07:14]  He comes into the center of this whole activity around Garrison and JFK, and I'll explain how.
[01:07:22]  Now, and he brings theosophy into it with him.
[01:07:25]  And one of the things I want to say relating to theosophy is obviously the mystery school element when we get into these deeper political battles has to be understood.
[01:07:39]  We have to get a better handle on what groups like theosophy and anthroposophy had vouchsafed for us in the 21st century.
[01:07:47]  Because In 1916, there's an announcement that Steiner makes with the onset of World War I that it will take 100 years for the mystery school work of Anthroposophical Society to take effect and get a chance again.
[01:08:01]  And that leads us to right where we are now.
[01:08:03]  So we're talking about this, we understand the history, but it's a very present tense kind of situation.
[01:08:08]  I guess that's the way that they saw it.
[01:08:10]  And I'm trying to key in on their thread and why they were saying that this was the period of time.
[01:08:15]  Actually, we're right in the bullseye of that period.
[01:08:18]  So, what was it about this period that they understood?
[01:08:21]  And does it relate to the idea that the sex steganography is going to come forward?
[01:08:27]  Is that going to change the paradigm that we're in?
[01:08:30]  I think that these are the crucial questions that are coming up.
[01:08:32]  So we need to really take a look at this stuff.
[01:08:36]  And how are we doing over there, Miss Olivia?
[01:08:39]  Lots of great questions coming from different angles.
[01:08:42]  Okay.
[01:08:42]  You can go ahead.
[01:08:43]  Well, we're going to do a full section on questions at the second half of the show.
[01:08:48]  But go ahead.
[01:08:49]  You can go ahead and rifle one off as I get into Arthur Young.
[01:08:53]  Okay, do you want a general one or do you want something really specific?
[01:08:57]  Well, if you have something kind of specific, maybe that's a good trade off.
[01:09:00]  Well, I don't know the answer to this one.
[01:09:02]  Was Forrestal a Jesuit?
[01:09:05]  He's a Catholic.
[01:09:07]  So, you know, there's an interesting way to look at this, you know, but I think that that's pretty much you get your answer there.
[01:09:16]  If Kennedy and Forrestal were Catholics, and, you know, that's where.
[01:09:23]  That whole thing came up about Kennedy.
[01:09:25]  Is he going to have his allegiance to the Pope or is he going to have his allegiance to the Constitution?
[01:09:32]  And so I think when you get into the whole thing with Forrestal, you're looking at someone who seemed to operate with idealism in mind.
[01:09:43]  And the minute he's done telling Harry Truman and MJ 12, I think we should share this with the public about the UFO file, and I don't think we should hold it back.

=== Oswald's Aerospace Connections (04:00) ===

[01:09:54]  You know, they're all nice to him, and he goes out and he gets hammered with these stories about, you know, oh, well, you know, he basically ripped off all these people at Dylan Reed.
[01:10:03]  He was sleeping with his secretary.
[01:10:09]  They basically smeared him any way that they could and made him a nervous wreck so that they had the kind of background, the predicate, in order to put him into Bethesda.
[01:10:20]  And some other people have been eliminated by going into Bethesda also.
[01:10:24]  So I do think that Forrestal is important.
[01:10:28]  And it's something that I think we understand that there's a reason why in a public, Hospital, you know, like in a public story like this, that when somebody goes out a window, I think we understand that the people behind that and making it look like a suicide have something big to hide.
[01:10:51]  So, what was it?
[01:10:52]  And it was confusing for people back then because they didn't understand the UFO aspect to his story until later.
[01:10:58]  So, it is, yeah, absolutely.
[01:10:59]  It's fascinating.
[01:11:02]  So, Arthur Young and Bell Helicopter.
[01:11:03]  Why is Bell Helicopter important?
[01:11:07]  I wonder if anyone out there can tell me.
[01:11:09]  Well, it's interestingly enough, Bell Helicopter plays a big role in the Kennedy assassination because the person that Oswald and his wife were living with, with their child, were the Paynes, Michael and Ruth Payne.
[01:11:23]  Now, Michael Payne was the star engineer for Bell Helicopter, and his mother was Young's wife.
[01:11:37]  So, Arthur Young, the theosophist who developed.
[01:11:40]  The Bell helicopter.
[01:11:44]  His wife, he married Ruth Forbes Payne, and she was the mother of Michael Payne.
[01:11:53]  And those pains, by the way, went all the way back to the Revolutionary War.
[01:11:58]  And this is a very interesting thing.
[01:11:59]  When you get to the Kennedy assassination, over and over again, you are dealing with the main kind of Brahmin class.
[01:12:06]  They are the big money families that are moving around this assassination.
[01:12:11]  But as it turns out, In this case, they're also moving around the UFO file.
[01:12:16]  So, interestingly enough, she is very much, well, Ruth Forbes Payne, Michael Payne's mother, is very much into spiritualism.
[01:12:30]  And so is Arthur Young, who developed the Bell helicopter.
[01:12:33]  And what happened actually, which is that Michael Payne, their young stepson and her son, basically he wasn't doing so well.
[01:12:42]  He floated in and out of Harvard, he didn't graduate.
[01:12:44]  And he was not showing a particularly dynamic future.
[01:12:49]  So, Young used his connections with Bill Helicopter, which he had developed, and he said, Can you give him a job, basically?
[01:12:57]  And they were like, Yeah, you know, we'll give him, we'll build him up.
[01:13:01]  And within two years, he became a really great engineer for them.
[01:13:05]  So, but that's how he landed in there.
[01:13:08]  Now, what gets interesting is okay, so we have Arthur Young marrying Ruth.
[01:13:16]  Forbes Payne, and Forbes is the famous Forbes family in Forbes magazine, Forbes Money here in Boston.
[01:13:25]  But this Michael Payne marries another Ruth.
[01:13:28]  It's very interesting here, and that's Michael and Ruth Payne.
[01:13:34]  And Michael Payne just died recently, interestingly enough, but one of the things that we can say about them that is quite odd, which is in the middle of all this, they're hosting the Oswalds.
[01:13:46]  So here we have Oswald, who's supposed to be this kind of nobody, a loser who's unhappy with his life and a communist and all this.

=== The Coffee Company Links (04:45) ===

[01:13:55]  And every time we turn around, he's with some other incredible hotshot.
[01:14:02]  And another very interesting thing that we find out about Oswald is that whenever he turns around, he has an aerospace connection wherever he goes.
[01:14:11]  And let's explain that for a moment.
[01:14:13]  This comes back to Garrison.
[01:14:16]  And this is Garrison's book on the Trail of the Assassins, which is quite excellent.
[01:14:20]  I have to say, it's his real kind of opus of everything that happened.
[01:14:25]  So he's looking at these different people.
[01:14:31]  And what he's trying to do, and he's He's figuring out that Oswald spent all this time at Riley Coffee Company when he worked in New Orleans.
[01:14:41]  And he said, Oh, he's working there.
[01:14:42]  You know, let's go talk to some of his co workers, get an idea of what he was up to and what the whole deal was about.
[01:14:50]  And they're all gone.
[01:14:52]  He's like, This is odd.
[01:14:53]  What's the deal here?
[01:14:54]  So that's the setup for this.
[01:14:56]  And I'll just read a little bit.
[01:14:59]  So he sends his person over there to check them out.
[01:15:04]  And he goes, Sometime later, I came across this name again, Dante Maraccini.
[01:15:09]  I'd wanted to talk to individuals in the Riley Coffee Company who had worked with Lee Oswald or at a level immediately above him.
[01:15:16]  So I sent my investigator, Frank Klein, over to the company to get their names and respective positions.
[01:15:23]  He returned rather quickly.
[01:15:25]  They're all gone, he said.
[01:15:26]  Anyone who had any connection with Lee Oswald left the Riley Coffee Company within a few weeks after Oswald did.
[01:15:34]  Hmm.
[01:15:36]  Uh,.
[01:15:37]  He laid a sheet of paper in front of me.
[01:15:39]  Here are the names and their new jobs.
[01:15:42]  So, this guy did some pretty good work pretty fast.
[01:15:45]  This is Garrison talking now.
[01:15:46]  I glanced down at the list.
[01:15:48]  One name jumped out immediately Dante Maraccini.
[01:15:52]  This is somebody who is following in connection to Oswald.
[01:15:55]  He'd begun to work at the Riley Coffee Company on exactly the same day as Oswald.
[01:16:00]  Several weeks after Oswald's departure, Maraccini left the coffee company and began life anew.
[01:16:07]  At the Chrysler Aerospace Division at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, or NASA.
[01:16:14]  On the eastern side of New Orleans, I then noticed that Alfred Claude, who hired Oswald for the Riley Coffee Company, had also gone to work for Chrysler Aerospace Division at NASA.
[01:16:26]  Then I saw John Brann, who had worked with Oswald at the Coffee Company, had also left for a job with NASA.
[01:16:34]  At about the same time, Emmett Barbie, Oswald's immediate boss at Riley, Left the coffee company and also inaugurated a new career with NASA.
[01:16:46]  After seeing what happened to all of these men associated with Oswald at the coffee company, and after seeing Maraccini's name again, my curiosity about 1309 Dauphine Street returned.
[01:16:57]  I called Lou Ivan in and asked him to find out if James Llewellyn, Ferry's former apartment mate, now resided at 1309 Dauphine Street.
[01:17:06]  This is Ferry's house.
[01:17:07]  It was one of these characters who worked with Bannister, who was in charge of the UFO file in the late 40s.
[01:17:13]  So, moving down, took Ivan a couple of days, but he came back with a fairly predictable piece of information.
[01:17:19]  Llewellyn had gone to work for Boeing out at NASA.
[01:17:24]  Lou and I kicked this interesting situation around a bit, and then we both became curious about what had happened to Melvin Coffey, who had accompanied Ferry to Texas on the eve of the assassination.
[01:17:34]  And this is really kind of the thing about Ferry roped Garrison into the assassination in the first place, because he got this tip.
[01:17:42]  That Ferry had taken off for Texas the day before the assassination.
[01:17:46]  And Ferry was a character who worked with Bannister and was basically a CIA pilot a la Barry Seale, let's say.
[01:17:56]  Ivan was back the next day, his assistant here was back the next day.
[01:18:00]  Melvin Coffey had been hired by the aerospace operation at Cape Canaveral.
[01:18:05]  Perhaps it was mere coincidence that all of these men associated with David Ferry, Clay Shaw, and Lee Oswald ended up working for NASA, but I doubted it.
[01:18:13]  I know by now that when a group of individuals gravitated toward one another for no apparent reason, keep the X protect in mind, or a group of individuals inexplicably headed in the same direction, as if drawn by a magnetic field or coincidence, piled on coincidence too many times, As often as not, the shadowy outlines of a covert intelligence operation were somehow becoming visible.

=== Walter Dornberger and NASA (02:29) ===

[01:18:40]  Now, this is the crucial, really crucial aspect of Garrison's logic, which is he's starting to understand that, on one hand, he's studying the Kennedy assassination, but he's landing head to head with NASA and the aerospace companies over and over again when he's doing the research.
[01:19:00]  Now, at first, He wondered what's the nature of this, but he's a good enough investigator to say, Wait a minute, what do we got going on here?
[01:19:10]  So, um, interestingly enough, now things change a little bit because he tries to get Michael and Ruth Payne on the stand, and what he realizes is that Ruth Payne, her sister, and Michael Payne both can't get their tax records because they're classified, meaning, well, he's doing classified work for Bell Helicopter, but the sister is.
[01:19:36]  An intelligence asset.
[01:19:38]  So that is giving us a better picture of where these people are coming from.
[01:19:41]  Now let's go back to Michael and Ruth Payne again.
[01:19:45]  Michael Payne is a star engineer at Bell Helicopter.
[01:19:49]  His dad is Arthur, his stepdad is Arthur Young, who got him the job.
[01:19:53]  His mother, Ruth Forbes Payne, who now is Ruth Forbes Young.
[01:20:00]  Who is his immediate boss and who basically makes him his protege at Bell Helicopter?
[01:20:10]  That person is Walter Dornberger.
[01:20:14]  Walter Dornberger is the paperclip scientist that we brought over here, who is in charge of all of the X plane technology.
[01:20:22]  He is the hardcore member, and he's the one who creates all of these various things relating to, you know, basically, he creates the outline of these programs that the X technology is tied to.
[01:20:35]  So we're looking at the hardcore space planes that still hold the records in terms of speed.
[01:20:43]  And they're done in the 60s.
[01:20:45]  Okay, so you'd think we beat those records years and years ago.
[01:20:49]  In fact, the speed records are still held by Dornberger's X series.
[01:20:54]  Dornberger is the paperclip Nazi that we brought over to become the president of Bell Helicopter.
[01:21:01]  Michael Payne is his understudy.
[01:21:05]  Michael Payne is hosting the Oswalds.

=== Locked Garrison Files (09:14) ===

[01:21:10]  That's the end of Oswald being this kind of.
[01:21:13]  Lonely guy who just roamed around.
[01:21:16]  So we can see there that when Garrison's running into the aerospace interests, and now we have Oswald sitting at an aerospace company, living in Bell Helicopters' Star Engineer's house, that the Oswald operation is moving through the aerospace companies.
[01:21:34]  Now, an interesting thing happens, which I'm going to jump ahead to here, which is that Garrison, when he gets into the situation with The trial and stuff, things are getting a little bit out of hand.
[01:21:49]  So there's a guy named Hinkle who's an editor at Ramparts magazine.
[01:21:56]  Ramparts is kind of like a hardcore magazine, I mean, politically.
[01:22:03]  And it's sort of like a village voice, Rolling Stone type of magazine.
[01:22:08]  And what happens is this guy is getting information from Garrison about the assassination.
[01:22:14]  And over and over again, they're trading this stuff.
[01:22:16]  But this guy starts to get weird visits, like the Men in Black style visits.
[01:22:19]  This is the X Protect group saying, if you continue to talk to him, you know, this is a bad scene.
[01:22:24]  So he's actually trying to hide from Garrison.
[01:22:26]  So Garrison's tracking him down.
[01:22:28]  He calls him in the mail room.
[01:22:29]  And he actually gets him on the phone and he says, I need to tell you this.
[01:22:34]  We've been wrong about looking at the Texas oil men being involved.
[01:22:39]  They weren't involved in the way we think.
[01:22:41]  I've isolated down the Kennedy assassination to the aerospace wing of the industrial military complex.
[01:22:50]  So, this is where Garrison had arrived.
[01:22:54]  This was the threshold he had arrived at in all of his investigation looking at these things.
[01:22:59]  What happened was.
[01:23:01]  The Ramparts guy was scared of this information and never posted it.
[01:23:06]  And Garrison said that he was taking an enormous chance by sharing it with him.
[01:23:09]  So, Garrison, we can see, is getting some heat there.
[01:23:12]  And he was also taking incredible threats against his life and what he was doing and against his family and everything else.
[01:23:20]  So, the X Protect aspect was working overtime to get rid of him.
[01:23:26]  But what happened instead here is very interesting.
[01:23:30]  Hinkle.
[01:23:32]  Basically, lets this information out.
[01:23:37]  And we can see that Garrison himself refers to this aerospace aspect in this book, but it's never brought out specifically in that hardcore fashion.
[01:23:49]  But there are these files that are being blocked by the CIA now that were supposed to be out.
[01:23:58]  And I'll tell you something about these files.
[01:24:00]  In the middle of those files, as anyone who's really studying that can tell you, are the Garrison files.
[01:24:07]  And Victor Marchetti said that he was, now, Victor Marchetti was an assistant of Richard Helms, who was the CIA director in the 60s.
[01:24:15]  And he said that Helms just wanted reports every day about Garrison and Garrison accusing Clay Shaw of being involved.
[01:24:23]  And Clay Shaw was one of their guys.
[01:24:24]  And Garrison had actually accused him of being involved in the Kennedy assassination.
[01:24:28]  They went to trial, and eventually Shaw was acquitted.
[01:24:33]  But an interesting thing to keep in mind is that they were nervous as hell.
[01:24:38]  During this whole period, and he'd never seen this Marchetti character working with CIA director Richard Helms.
[01:24:44]  He'd never seen him so wired.
[01:24:46]  Every day he wanted to report about what was going on with Garrison and Clay Shaw.
[01:24:50]  So Clay Shaw denied being an asset and an agent for the CIA, but it came out in the House Assassination Committee records that, in fact, Clay Shaw was a CIA asset and had been working with them for a long time.
[01:25:08]  Interestingly enough, There's a piece of history that came out, which is that Wernher von Braun, when he submitted himself to the Western authorities and the Allies coming in, that it was Shaw's troop that had taken him on.
[01:25:23]  And he had those really incredibly deep, deep connections.
[01:25:27]  So Shaw, somehow in Garrison's world, he could get at the whole thing by getting at Shaw.
[01:25:36]  Now, interestingly enough, when we look at this period of time and we see what's going on now, The CIA is still blocking the Garrison records.
[01:25:44]  And the reason is Garrison's hardcore focus leading up to the trial and the acquittal of Shaw was the aerospace companies.
[01:25:55]  And he had to make a decision at a certain point.
[01:25:57]  I'm just going to say that it's the CIA, but it's the aerospace companies in association with the CIA.
[01:26:05]  That's the aspect that the CIA doesn't want out because otherwise there's no reason to just let the JFK Garrison files out.
[01:26:12]  That set of files, I guarantee you, are the hottest set of files that they're blocking right now.
[01:26:17]  Interestingly enough, in 1992, there was something set up based on public demand because the JFK movie had come out by Oliver Stone covering some of the aspects of Garrison's life and the trial of Shaw.
[01:26:31]  And what happened was there was this explosion in the public and demand for congressional hearings, and they got them.
[01:26:38]  And Clinton had to sign something, which was this setup.
[01:26:43]  You know, it was Bush on his way out and Clinton on his way in.
[01:26:47]  And they had to sign this document.
[01:26:50]  Announcing this group called the Assassination Record Review Board, which would study all of the hidden files and figure out which ones should come out.
[01:26:57]  Now, by the way, I don't think they're going to leave any smoking guns in those files.
[01:27:01]  It's not so much that, but I do feel that there are connections still in those files that they want to block, big key being Garrison's files.
[01:27:09]  So let's go a little bit further.
[01:27:10]  As we go down in time, looking at what happened with that, they announced, look, October 2016, 2017, you have to release all the records.
[01:27:21]  That's what they said in 19.
[01:27:23]  They said, we'll give you 25 years and you can do it.
[01:27:26]  So that date rolls around, and Trump's saying, I really am looking forward to getting this transparency out and all the rest of it.
[01:27:34]  Well, as it turned out, the CIA and the FBI came to him and said, Please don't let this out.
[01:27:41]  They're operational people, things we're protecting.
[01:27:43]  Give us six months.
[01:27:45]  And so Trump comes out and says, Well, I'll let some of these out, but the ones you want to block, I'll let you block them.
[01:27:50]  And he kind of buckles to the deep state here.
[01:27:54]  But what happens is interesting because April 26 rolls around.
[01:27:58]  And by the way, when we did this, we did a special for HBO on this.
[01:28:02]  And, you know, we were set up that day for all the files to come out.
[01:28:08]  And boom, the hammer came down no files.
[01:28:12]  You're not getting anything.
[01:28:14]  And so we were starting to see that the CIA was really moving on this.
[01:28:18]  But I kept asking for the files that they let out that weren't in the rolling series did they let the Garrison files out over and over again?
[01:28:26]  No.
[01:28:27]  The Garrison files are part of what's under lock and key right now.
[01:28:30]  And they're important because they relate to the aerospace aspect, the X Protect being a big part of the JFK assassination.
[01:28:37]  Okay.
[01:28:38]  So, April 26, 2018, President Trump's presidential memorandum here.
[01:28:44]  Memorandum for heads of executive departments and agencies, subjects, certification of certain records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
[01:28:52]  As I explained in my temporary certification on October 26, 2017, The American people expect their government to provide as much access as possible to President John F. Kennedy's assassination records so that they may, as they deserve, finally be fully informed about all aspects of this pivotal event.
[01:29:11]  Yes, that's correct.
[01:29:12]  We do deserve that.
[01:29:14]  Over the past 180 days, executive departments and agencies have reviewed all of the information within records temporarily withheld from release and have proposed to the Archivist of the United States.
[01:29:27]  That certain information should continue to be redacted because of identifiable national security, law enforcement, foreign affairs concerns.
[01:29:37]  Let me get at this a little bit.
[01:29:38]  Basically, they're saying this is what they use when they say we still have agents in the field.
[01:29:41]  If you release their information, their families could be at risk or whatever.
[01:29:45]  Well, it's 50 years later, and the countries that were involved actually, the Soviet Union isn't even there anymore.
[01:29:51]  And also, Castro doesn't run Cuba.
[01:29:54]  So that's not a good reason, as a matter of fact.
[01:29:58]  And check it out you were mandated by law, by Congress in 1992, to let those records out already, October 26, 2017.
[01:30:06]  Okay.
[01:30:08]  So Trump says I agree with the archivist's recommendation that the continued withholdings are necessary.
[01:30:14]  To protect against identifiable harm to national security, law enforcement, or foreign affairs that is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in immediate disclosure.

=== Operation High Jump Secrets (02:40) ===

[01:30:25]  And that's where it sits.
[01:30:27]  So they didn't let the garrison records out.
[01:30:30]  And now let's take a look at why that X Protect is such a big secret.
[01:30:36]  I think we're getting, we're starting to get the idea.
[01:30:37]  All right, but first let's take a look at Oswald here.
[01:30:42]  That's Oswald at 15 in the Civil Air Patrol.
[01:30:46]  I want you to notice his hat.
[01:30:49]  That hat's going to become interesting in about a minute here.
[01:30:55]  This is the head of the Civil Air Patrol and the man who created it.
[01:31:01]  And his name is D.H. Bird.
[01:31:03]  You notice the hat is the Civil Air Patrol hat.
[01:31:07]  D.H. Bird is the owner of the Texas School Book Depository.
[01:31:13]  And it's interesting because so many things that took place.
[01:31:19]  Around Oswald in the building were all controlled by the evidence that you get in the building.
[01:31:25]  So you have the control of the evidence here with D.H. Bird, and you have Oswald basically being a puppet.
[01:31:33]  But also the other evidence that, remember, he never had a trial, but the other evidence that convicts Oswald in the public eye is what?
[01:31:39]  The evidence that comes out of the Payne household.
[01:31:41]  So you have the Aerospace Payne Company, Michael Payne, who is the protege of Dornberger, is a paperclip Nazi running the X. Steganography, the X program for the X planes.
[01:31:54]  Those are the space planes.
[01:31:56]  Dornberger, as we've brought forward in this program, is the crucial X figure in terms of the technology moving forward.
[01:32:05]  So Michael Payne is Dornberger's understudy, and Oswald's staying with him under the umbrella of this aerospace thing.
[01:32:13]  Garrison has concluded oh, the NASA tied all of this, the aerospace wing.
[01:32:22]  Now we're in deep twit.
[01:32:24]  Actually, I've concluded that we're wrong thinking about Texas oil millionaires and all the rest of it.
[01:32:28]  It's the aerospace companies that did it, it's that wing of the military industrial complex.
[01:32:34]  Then we have our friend here, D.H. Byrd.
[01:32:38]  Now, here's something I brought out last year about Byrd that just wasn't on the record anywhere that D.H. Byrd is the cousin of Admiral Byrd of Operation High Jump in Antarctica.
[01:32:52]  So now we have a real military aerospace aspect because, of course, all the Questions about high jump and the UFO file aspects that he encountered when he went there, and all these discs basically harassed his expedition.

=== Robert Saarbacher's Crime (15:20) ===

[01:33:05]  He had to come back and he told the reporter in Chile, Well, you know, we're shaping up for a whole new war and the polls with these discs.
[01:33:14]  So we're getting hardcore on the NASA connections directly into the JFK assassination.
[01:33:21]  The aerospace wing is residing right in the middle of the entire situation, and Garrison is running up against it.
[01:33:30]  And he's so what does he decide to do?
[01:33:34]  He says, I have to get some answers.
[01:33:35]  I'm going to subpoena Alan Dulles.
[01:33:39]  Alan Dulles was the CIA director that Kennedy fired, and who was also the guy who was in charge of all the intelligence leads for the Warren Commission, i.e., the man they needed in the background to whitewash the entire event.
[01:33:58]  That's a shot of Kennedy there.
[01:34:01]  And that's only 20 seconds before his assassination.
[01:34:07]  So, um, Interestingly enough, when we look at what Garrison was doing, he was saying, I'll put them on trial.
[01:34:17]  I'll put the CIA on trial, and we'll get right to the whole bottom of this entire matter, which frankly was probably so impractical a thing to do.
[01:34:25]  And yet, when you think about where we are now, if that had been done and the reforms had been done on the deep state and the intelligence communities, all the next 50 years of history with 9 11 and all that junk probably wouldn't have happened.
[01:34:42]  He was moving in the right direction.
[01:34:46]  So Dulles tells LBJ, I have this subpoena.
[01:34:55]  What am I going to do?
[01:34:56]  And LBJ says, rip it up and I'll back you up.
[01:34:59]  And that's what they do.
[01:35:00]  So they rip up the subpoena that Garrison gets for them.
[01:35:05]  So the CIA becomes, in that moment, untouchable.
[01:35:09]  X Protect reached into Garrison directly as a public law enforcement.
[01:35:16]  Enforcement officer can't get a reaction.
[01:35:18]  They can rip up a subpoena.
[01:35:20]  So, X Protect under this umbrella of the CIA becomes an extra constitutional force.
[01:35:27]  They don't operate under laws.
[01:35:28]  You can't subpoena them.
[01:35:31]  That's a historical fact.
[01:35:34]  So, to get a feel for X Protect on that level, which I mean is really a high, obvious level, which is a CIA director, somebody who's Available for public consumption and out there, you know, people know the name and all the rest of it.
[01:35:54]  I'm not even talking about the ex protect people behind them.
[01:35:58]  This is Richard Bissell, who was one of Dulles's lieutenants in the CIA.
[01:36:07]  Bissell is an unusual character, an unusual appearance, being six foot eight, and he had a very secretive nature being in part of the CIA, and he was.
[01:36:22]  A big, he was handling the U2 program.
[01:36:25]  And what had happened was Garrison had put together the fact that Oswald was associated with the U2 program and extra technology at Tsugi, which is this wing in Japan, which is basically a CIA wing of the military.
[01:36:40]  Bissell was a graduate of Yale, had all those connections.
[01:36:44]  His brother was a big member of Skull and Bones, and he was the CIA deputy director of plans.
[01:36:50]  So, what happens is, in terms of the X Protect aspect, Kennedy, when he's reaching into this UFO file area, he gets the obvious excuse to get rid of Dulles.
[01:37:02]  But when he's trying to get information related to the UFO file, his biggest block is Bissell.
[01:37:10]  And Bissell becomes the person who creates that ability in our satellite system to not only spy on enemies here, but to look out.
[01:37:21]  So many of his programs were about UFO recon that Kennedy wanted to get involved and say, What is it that they're using them for?
[01:37:28]  And Bissell is the big block.
[01:37:30]  So, guess what?
[01:37:30]  Kennedy fires him too.
[01:37:31]  You can see, you know, you're building up here with Kennedy.
[01:37:37]  He's becoming an enemy of the CIA.
[01:37:38]  There's no question about it.
[01:37:39]  That's bad enough.
[01:37:40]  But X Protect, which is set up in this fashion to basically eliminate threats, they're in a situation where I think even if you had something where you looked at a situation and you said to yourself, you know, X Protect, the regular CIA has ways of undermining the presidency, they can do all these things.
[01:38:03]  The X Protect wing.
[01:38:04]  Needs to protect the technology and the curtain around that technology at all costs, as I've outlined here.
[01:38:10]  So, when we get into the way that they handled the JFK assassination, what do they do?
[01:38:16]  Well, they take Guy Bannister and they take his protege, who's Oswald, they make him look like a communist by handing out communist literature.
[01:38:25]  Guy Bannister, of course, managed the UFO file for a decade before he went to New Orleans.
[01:38:31]  And he's deeply associated with it.
[01:38:33]  It's on record.
[01:38:36]  So, They take Oswald, and what does Oswald say when he's leaving Riley, just like all these other people?
[01:38:41]  He says, I'm going to work for NASA.
[01:38:43]  So they were going to move Oswald and all those people out into this NASA situation.
[01:38:49]  And they said to Oswald, You know what?
[01:38:50]  You need to go back to Texas for a while.
[01:38:54]  And we have this job for you set up at the Texas School Book Depository.
[01:38:59]  And guess who owns it?
[01:39:00]  The guy who ran the Civil Air Patrol, which you were a part of.
[01:39:04]  So D.H. Byrd, and D.H. Byrd has that connection of Admiral Byrd.
[01:39:09]  And Admiral Byrd encountering the UFO file up front and personal when he went.
[01:39:15]  So, all that stuff is on record.
[01:39:16]  So, the question becomes what do we do?
[01:39:20]  What do we got there?
[01:39:22]  We've run headlong into Garrison's X Protect group.
[01:39:26]  And we saw that early on, before we even got to the Kennedy aspect, those people like Frank Scully, like Albert Bender, like Morris Jessup were encountering X Protect.
[01:39:40]  In the form of these intimidation tactics and men in black.
[01:39:46]  That's where the whole thing comes from.
[01:39:48]  And then we see that Edwards was an incredible journalist on this.
[01:39:55]  And in those political circles, he was well respected.
[01:39:58]  You know, I showed a picture of him there with Truman, but there are other pictures of him in these circles.
[01:40:03]  And they understood that his research was good.
[01:40:06]  So interestingly enough, Edwards dies very unusually of a cerebral hemorrhage in the middle of all this research about the men in black.
[01:40:14]  So he's encountered X Protect, and you know, whenever we get around the JFK assassination, you've got this death list of the witnesses.
[01:40:22]  One of the most important of those being Mary Meyer.
[01:40:32]  And I'm just going to touch on Mary Meyer here briefly because Mary Meyer being the wife of Cord Meyer, and Cord Meyer being identified by people like Hunt, who was the CIA super spy referenced earlier.
[01:40:48]  But he said that LBJ and Cord Meyer had coordinated the assassination aspects and worked on it as a team over time.
[01:40:57]  But Mary Meyer was close to JFK.
[01:41:01]  And this is kind of like that aspect where she kept a diary.
[01:41:07]  And there's this fantastic story where her sister is married to the Washington Post publisher, Ben Bradley.
[01:41:15]  And when she's found shot in these unusual circumstances, her sister and Ben Bradley go to her apartment and they encounter Jesus James Angleton.
[01:41:31]  And he's the operations director for the CIA.
[01:41:35]  And he's just, he's in her place.
[01:41:38]  And they try to get some answers out of him what's going on here.
[01:41:42]  And they figure out that he was looking for that diary of hers, which apparently JFK had shared information.
[01:41:49]  Relating to the UFO file with Mary Meyer.
[01:41:55]  Now he's out of the picture.
[01:41:56]  Now she's out of the picture, but they have to make sure that diary doesn't surface somewhere.
[01:42:00]  So we've come across this over and over again with people like Dorothy Kilgallen, who I mentioned earlier, who people knew from TV shows in the 60s, like What's My Line.
[01:42:11]  Whenever they get around the UFO file in relation to the JFK assassination in that period, those people are eliminated by X Protect.
[01:42:18]  And I do think that in the normal course of Political espionage around an assassination of a president, you would have a lot of witness deaths and you'd have that death list.
[01:42:31]  But I think the X Protect really shows us the overdrive of it that they need to get rid of not only people who are aware of the JFK assassination, but anything relating to the UFO file being spilled publicly, because that's part of what they're up to as well.
[01:42:47]  So let's go even further along the line now and let's recap a little bit.
[01:42:53]  D.H. Bird.
[01:42:54]  Owned the Texas School Book Depository.
[01:42:57]  I've discovered that his cousin is Admiral Burt, who encountered, according to his own account, a massive fleet of disks when he went to Antarctica and actually gave an interview to that effect.
[01:43:11]  We've seen that Michael Payne, who housed the Oswalds, was the stepson of theosophist Arthur Young and his wife, Ruth Forbes Payne, and that.
[01:43:29]  The pains in housing the Oswalds, all the information that will convict Oswald in the public eye will come out of their house.
[01:43:41]  So, in terms of that aerospace wing, in a way, Oswald made it.
[01:43:46]  He went to work for aerospace, all right.
[01:43:48]  It just wasn't NASA.
[01:43:49]  It was this weird, freaky wing of the whole thing.
[01:43:53]  So, we've also encountered the fact that Garrison.
[01:43:58]  Really, and I'm going to tell you, I've studied the JFK assassination very, very closely.
[01:44:03]  Garrison got closer to the reality around it than anybody because he went for the aerospace aspect, which is the crucial aspect, in my opinion.
[01:44:13]  So it's very important, I think, that we keep Garrison's investigation in mind whenever we're exploring these subjects.
[01:44:19]  So, what is it that we have here on the X aspect?
[01:44:23]  We've got, let's keep in mind, we have Vannevar Bush.
[01:44:31]  And Vannevar Bush was set up to manage the UFO file.
[01:44:36]  He was there to manage the X technology.
[01:44:39]  He created a whole system for it because he had come out of the Rad Lab at MIT and created an incredible system of secrecy.
[01:44:46]  He ran the Mason Lodge at MIT, so he understood very well about secrecy.
[01:44:51]  And the Wall Street Journal pointed out at the time in an article that he had better secrecy with the Rad Lab than they had.
[01:45:02]  In the army or in other branches of the military.
[01:45:05]  So that's pretty good secrecy.
[01:45:08]  I have to say that when we get to Vannevar Bush and his interaction with all of this, we get an idea of what's happening.
[01:45:15]  So he's in charge of the scientific part of managing the X technology.
[01:45:22]  So we've seen that on this end of the spectrum, we have these people who manage it scientifically, get the products out of it, create the scenario for its use out of the UFO file.
[01:45:35]  On the other end of the spectrum is X Protect.
[01:45:38]  Somebody gets out of that line, like a forest doll wants to reveal it to the public, they either get discredited or wiped out.
[01:45:44]  So let's talk about the ways in which they can wipe out an individual's reality.
[01:45:52]  Just make them a non person.
[01:45:53]  So in 1984, what they would do is they would change the past over and over again.
[01:45:57]  They'd go back to the newspaper article, and Winston, who's the main character in 1984, he has to sit there and paste in another picture and use a different name.
[01:46:06]  And he takes the other person and says non person and shoves them down the memory hole.
[01:46:10]  So we just forget who they were in the first place.
[01:46:13]  This is something, of course, that he observed in the late 40s with the kind of propaganda that was going on by these different things after the war.
[01:46:23]  But I want to show you an actual non person who should be very well known.
[01:46:34]  And let's take a look at him.
[01:46:37]  His name is Robert Saarbacher.
[01:46:42]  And for people who really know, he was the top physicist. In America.
[01:46:49]  The only person that had a better clearance or more impact, supposedly, than him was Oppenheimer himself.
[01:46:59]  So Robert Saarbacher should be somebody who we all know very well, is very accessible in the public and all the rest of it.
[01:47:08]  Well, I'm going to show you something.
[01:47:11]  This is a search of Wikipedia for Robert Saarbacher.
[01:47:14]  And it says Robert Saarbacher does not exist.
[01:47:22]  Now, I'm going to point something out here, which is, and I mentioned this to Olivia, which is that there's a dwarf from The Wizard of Oz who has his own Wikipedia page.
[01:47:33]  Robert Saarbacher, the top physicist in America, is not represented on Wikipedia.
[01:47:39]  How do you do that?
[01:47:40]  What kind of power do you need to have to do that, to take somebody out of the encyclopedia that we're using?
[01:47:49]  Well, Let's think about why they would do that.
[01:47:53]  Interestingly enough, they rub out his memory, but they also rub him out.
[01:47:57]  And we're going to talk about how they did that.
[01:47:59]  What was Sarbacher's big crime?
[01:48:02]  Who did he work with?
[01:48:03]  What did he know?
[01:48:06]  Let's start with Vannevar Bush again.
[01:48:11]  He worked with Vannevar Bush, redeveloping the UFO file, working with the X technology directly.
[01:48:20]  Interestingly enough, And, Olivia, I'm going to ask you to hand me that red book.

=== Vannevar Bush and UFOs (14:32) ===

[01:48:26]  No, it's this one.
[01:48:27]  Sorry.
[01:48:28]  Because if I do it, I'll knock the whole thing over.
[01:48:31]  Is this the H1?
[01:48:31]  Yes, the H1.
[01:48:32]  I have pointed this one out.
[01:48:34]  Gracias.
[01:48:36]  I have pointed this one out before.
[01:48:38]  Nicely done.
[01:48:41]  This book is UFO Crash at Aztec.
[01:48:43]  It is a thrilling book.
[01:48:45]  It is 600 pages.
[01:48:48]  Okay.
[01:48:51]  Early 90s, by a guy who doesn't show up in studying UFOs again, really.
[01:49:00]  He kind of was a scholarly guy.
[01:49:01]  He came into the UFO subject, boom, did an incredible job and got out.
[01:49:06]  Bill Steinman.
[01:49:08]  It's quite a book, though, and there's a lot of secrets, powerful secrets in here.
[01:49:15]  In there, he tracks down Sarbarker before Sarbarker is disposed of.
[01:49:21]  And I have no doubt that this is all related.
[01:49:23]  Sarbarker is living in Florida, and his Harvard life is behind him.
[01:49:30]  He's been the head of this technology company, he's retired.
[01:49:33]  He's done all this kind of work around scientific communities.
[01:49:37]  He still gives lectures and all the rest of it.
[01:49:39]  But he's pretty much off the board.
[01:49:44]  So, Steinman has a reputation, this author, of really hounding down people for the info that he wants.
[01:49:53]  And he gets great stuff because he does that.
[01:49:57]  He really is, he's in the face of some pretty hardcore people.
[01:50:02]  And one of the things I want to point out is in his letter here to our friend Sarbarker, I'm going to read the whole thing.
[01:50:12]  So, I'm actually, what I'm going to do is read the response.
[01:50:14]  Actually, so he basically asks him, you know, we have this information about MJ12.
[01:50:22]  Vannevar Bush, like, do you mention, do you know anything about these people?
[01:50:25]  You're mentioned as being part of this program.
[01:50:26]  What's the deal?
[01:50:28]  And then after a while, Steinman's letters to Sarbacher get to be kind of almost cynical.
[01:50:35]  They're like, well, I'm sorry, you know, apparently you're not going to answer me, but, you know, they're kind of passive aggressive in that sense.
[01:50:41]  They're like, well, you know, thanks for acknowledging me, I guess, you know, that kind of thing.
[01:50:45]  So here we go.
[01:50:46]  Quote Robert Sarbarker, top physicist in America.
[01:50:50]  They say the only person who outclassed him as a physicist is Oppenheimer.
[01:50:58]  Dear Mr. Steinman, I'm sorry to have taken so long in answering your letters.
[01:51:01]  However, I've moved my office and have had to make a number of extended trips.
[01:51:06]  To your last question of your letter of October 14th, 1983, there's no particular reason I feel I shouldn't or couldn't answer any and all of your questions.
[01:51:15]  He asked him about the UFO work.
[01:51:18]  I'm delighted to answer all of them to the best of my ability.
[01:51:21]  We can see that he's going to be written off by the deep state pretty quickly.
[01:51:25]  First, relating to my own experience regarding recovered flying saucers, I had no association with any of the people involved in the recovery and have no knowledge regarding the dates of the recoveries.
[01:51:38]  If I had, I would send it to you.
[01:51:41]  Regarding verification that persons you list were involved, I can say this John von Neumann.
[01:51:49]  Was definitely involved.
[01:51:52]  Dr. Vannevar Bush was definitely involved.
[01:51:55]  And I think Dr. Robert Oppenheimer was also involved.
[01:51:59]  So they had Oppenheimer working on the UFO file.
[01:52:03]  My association with the Research and Development Board under Dr. Compton during the Eisenhower administration was rather limited, so that although I had been invited to participate in several discussions associated with reported recoveries, I could not personally attend the meetings.
[01:52:22]  I would have loved to have asked.
[01:52:24]  Dr. Von Braun and the others that you listed questions, and they may or may not have attended.
[01:52:34]  This is all I know for sure.
[01:52:36]  I did receive some official reports when I was in my office at the Pentagon, but all of these were left there at the time.
[01:52:42]  We were never supposed to take them out of the office.
[01:52:46]  I do not recall receiving any photographs such as your request, so I'm not in a position to answer.
[01:52:52]  I have to make the same reply.
[01:52:54]  As on your other question, I recall the interview with Dr. Brenner of the Canadian Embassy.
[01:52:59]  I think the answers I gave him were the ones you listed relating to talking about the UFO program that was active in the United States.
[01:53:06]  That letter he's referencing is from 1950.
[01:53:09]  Naturally, I was more familiar with the subject matter under discussion at that time.
[01:53:14]  Actually, I would have been able to give more specific answers had I attended the meetings concerning the subjects.
[01:53:19]  You must understand that I took this assignment as a private contribution.
[01:53:24]  We were called dollar a year men.
[01:53:26]  My first responsibility was the maintenance of my own business activity so that my participation was limited.
[01:53:33]  In managing the UFO file, Sarbach is saying he's on the periphery.
[01:53:37]  About the only thing I remember at this time is that certain materials reported to have come from flying saucer crashes were extremely light and very tough.
[01:53:50]  I'm sure our laboratories analyzed them very carefully.
[01:53:55]  There were reports that instruments or people operating these machines were also very lightweight, sufficient to withstand the tremendous deceleration and acceleration associated with their machinery.
[01:54:08]  I remember in talking with some of these people at the office that I got the impression these quote aliens were constructed like certain insects we've observed on Earth, wherein, because of the low mass, the inertial forces involved in operation of these instruments would be quite low.
[01:54:29]  I still do not know why the high order of classification has been given and why the denial of the existence of these devices.
[01:54:37]  I'm sorry it's taken me so long to reply to you.
[01:54:40]  But I suggest you get in touch with the others who may be more directly involved in this program.
[01:54:44]  Sincerely yours, Dr. Robert I. Sarbarker.
[01:54:48]  P.S., it occurs to me that Bush's name is incorrect as you have it.
[01:54:52]  Please check the spelling.
[01:54:54]  Didn't want Banifer Bush to be misspelled there.
[01:54:59]  This is quite remarkable when you think about Sarbarker.
[01:55:04]  What's happening is by giving this letter to Steinman, he is opening up on a factual basis all of the stories about the UFO redevelopment.
[01:55:13]  Program around the UFO file, the re engineering of the technology.
[01:55:19]  He's opening up the UFO file, and the X Protect thing is going to wipe him out.
[01:55:24]  He's wiped out.
[01:55:25]  You can't get information on him.
[01:55:27]  The only thing you can see with him when you do real searches, unless you go to universities, which I have, is you'll find predominantly him roped into just kind of the most superficial kind of UFO reporting you can imagine.
[01:55:42]  There's nothing about his incredible accomplishments, the level that he was at.
[01:55:47]  This guy is a Harvard physicist at the top grade.
[01:55:51]  Even Harvard doesn't list very much about him online.
[01:55:54]  It is fascinating.
[01:55:55]  It is completely Orwellian what they've done with Saar Barker.
[01:55:59]  That's what we're talking about.
[01:56:01]  That is non person.
[01:56:03]  So the X Protect can definitely create a non person.
[01:56:09]  Now, I have one more thing to say in relation to our friend Saar Barker.
[01:56:17]  Let's see.
[01:56:20]  This is a little more in discussion with Sarbaker.
[01:56:23]  I'm going to go a little bit into overtime with him because I think this is crucial.
[01:56:29]  There's a reason why he's been eliminated from public memory.
[01:56:35]  And I keep going back to what he said about the UFO file here.
[01:56:38]  I don't think anybody has blown the whistle as much as he has.
[01:56:43]  There's something in here that he said which is crucial.
[01:56:49]  So let's go back and look at more of what he said.
[01:56:56]  So he's getting asked more questions.
[01:57:01]  So he's talking about, oh, yes, regarding the UFOs, gee, I'll try to remember exactly.
[01:57:06]  They call me a dollar a year kind of guy then.
[01:57:09]  This idea that we won't pay you, so it won't be on the record.
[01:57:15]  Sarbarker.
[01:57:16]  I was told they had recovered a UFO with some people in it.
[01:57:22]  Top physicist.
[01:57:25]  We were having a meeting at Wright Field and I couldn't go.
[01:57:30]  That's when Carl Compton was down there.
[01:57:37]  By the way, the reason I stopped on Compton is because I believe this is the problem.
[01:57:41]  This is why Saar Barker has to be a non person.
[01:57:43]  Carl Compton will come back.
[01:57:46]  We were having a meeting at Wright Field.
[01:57:47]  I couldn't go.
[01:57:48]  But later on, one of those fellows said to me that these guys, if they were people, were made like insects, they didn't have any skin on their bodies.
[01:57:56]  So They were saying that's how they were able to accelerate and decelerate without being torn apart.
[01:58:03]  You see, if we were going a thousand miles a second and stopped a minute, well, you'd be squished.
[01:58:09]  Excellent point from a real physicist taking a look at this.
[01:58:13]  Okay.
[01:58:19]  So the question gets asked was this about a crash that just happened or that it happened sometime before?
[01:58:24]  And Sarbacher says, well, yeah, the conversation was that it had been recovered.
[01:58:30]  So he's documenting here that they're saying to him, We have a recovered craft.
[01:58:36]  It crashed.
[01:58:37]  That's why they were talking about it.
[01:58:39]  We were going to have a meeting going out to discuss it.
[01:58:45]  And this is a transcript of the conversation on the phone.
[01:58:51]  This one is, the other one was the letter, so that that part gets missed.
[01:58:54]  Okay, here's another key fact.
[01:59:04]  So the author says, Well, you're quoted as saying that the UFO file is classified two points higher than the H bomb.
[01:59:15]  In fact, the most highly classified subject in the US government at the present time.
[01:59:21]  And Sarbacher says, Yes, I don't have the slightest idea why.
[01:59:26]  Now that's interesting.
[01:59:29]  Sarbacher, they have not informed him of the depth of the power and the reach of the UFO file.
[01:59:37]  But because he's opening up what they were telling him, what they did relate to him about redeveloping this program, suddenly, from being sitting pretty here in 1983 on retirement, just doing these gigs here and there, celebrated in history, then things have to change for him.
[01:59:57]  We're going to see that things don't go very well for him after he admits this stuff.
[02:00:02]  But let's get a little more confirmation from him in this exchange.
[02:00:05]  Okay.
[02:00:11]  Who else was involved besides Vannevar Bush, who he said was the head of it?
[02:00:16]  Well, after Bush left, somebody else came in.
[02:00:20]  Now, who was it?
[02:00:23]  Bush was the head of the scientific advisory board to the president.
[02:00:28]  His official job, though, he was the director of the Carnegie Foundation.
[02:00:32]  His memory is working perfectly there.
[02:00:33]  It's absolutely true.
[02:00:36]  And so the conversation goes back and forth.
[02:00:39]  And then he goes, Oh, Compton came down.
[02:00:41]  And from MIT.
[02:00:45]  This is the part.
[02:00:48]  So they're going back and forth, and they say, Well, what about the crashes that happened in the late 40s, particularly 47?
[02:00:58]  And out in New Mexico, New Mexico 1947.
[02:01:02]  And then he starts to talk about Los Alamos and all the rest of it.
[02:01:05]  So what happens is a little later on here, all of his memories kick in, and he starts to talk about Compton.
[02:01:14]  Compton is the person that he suggests took over the program from Vannevar Bush.
[02:01:19]  Nobody knew that.
[02:01:20]  That's not one of those kind of pieces that it's been in UFO lore.
[02:01:25]  Compton doesn't show up at all in UFO lore.
[02:01:30]  And let me see if I can find the final denouement on this.
[02:01:37]  They talk a little bit like he's basically saying to Steinman, you know, well, you've done a good job.
[02:01:44]  Yeah, you're really pushy, but you're good.
[02:01:47]  And the upshot that we have there is that Sarbacher.
[02:01:53]  Being one of the top physicists, he wasn't available to work in the heart of Vannevar Bush's group, but they wanted to spin ideas by him and say, Look, we're going to share certain facts with you and you're going to tell us a little bit back and forth.
[02:02:07]  And although he wasn't the key man in the middle of the program, he knew enough being a physicist, he retained enough memory of what it was in the letter and in the conversation.
[02:02:17]  And he did open up things.
[02:02:18]  So we found out about people like Eric Walker who are crucial in all this.
[02:02:23]  So What do we get from all this?
[02:02:26]  Well, it's kind of fascinating.
[02:02:28]  Sarbaker is created to be a non person because he's revealed the secret about the UFO file.
[02:02:36]  But more importantly, he's revealed who took it over.
[02:02:40]  And the person who took it over is Carl Compton.
[02:02:43]  Well, Carl Compton, interestingly enough, has all these amazing scientific accolades as a physicist.
[02:02:50]  By the way, it's not hard to find out any of his information, you'll find it all over the place.
[02:02:55]  He hasn't become a non person like Sarbaker.

=== Project X-15 and X-20 (12:41) ===

[02:02:58]  Well, not yet.
[02:03:00]  So let's do a quick wrap up on this because we're going pretty deep into the actual reasons behind all of this.
[02:03:13]  And when we get to Sarbacher, we're looking at the absolutely crucial point.
[02:03:17]  Now, let's take a look at something to round this all out.
[02:03:23]  This article in Business Weekly this is Here are the X planes, some of the most ambitious and secretive flying machines ever made.
[02:03:35]  Okay, let's see.
[02:03:39]  The important one that they list in here is the X 15 and the X 20.
[02:03:49]  The X 15 and the X 20 are both Walter Dornberger projects.
[02:03:53]  The X 15 still holds the record among manned powered aircraft.
[02:03:59]  The North American X 15 still holds records for the highest altitude, 67 miles, and greatest speed, Mach 6.7.
[02:04:08]  And that was all the way back in the 1960s.
[02:04:11]  Isn't that interesting?
[02:04:12]  Walter Dornberger, he of the X technology, moving the X steganography through testing out these different programs that still trump what we have now.
[02:04:25]  Then we think about Dornberger and Payne, and we think about Payne and Oswald, and that gives us an idea of the whole force of the X Protect, what exactly they were protecting here.
[02:04:38]  And that's why Garrison runs into all these problems.
[02:04:40]  Okay.
[02:04:41]  The plane took off from the underwing pylon of a B 52.
[02:04:44]  The X 15 achieved spaceflight twice according to international standards, making it the first reusable manned spacecraft in history.
[02:04:54]  Interesting.
[02:04:56]  What was the next plane?
[02:04:57]  The X 20.
[02:04:58]  Well, guess what the X 20 was?
[02:05:00]  The X 20 is called the Dinosaur, D Y N A S O A R. Why is this important?
[02:05:07]  We brought it up in different shows here in the X series.
[02:05:11]  This is kind of the pearl of all the Dornberger work.
[02:05:17]  Let's take a look at Dinosaur for a second.
[02:05:19]  Here's the patch.
[02:05:21]  Notice, of course, it's the X20 there.
[02:05:24]  Take a good look at that.
[02:05:27]  Now, let's reorient ourselves.
[02:05:31]  What is the deal?
[02:05:33]  What is the problem with X20?
[02:05:36]  What is the X Deganography that's moving here?
[02:05:39]  Why did we bring it up?
[02:05:40]  Why is it a part of this series?
[02:05:43]  X20 and the Dornberger programs come out of this Blue Gemini.
[02:05:51]  To refresh everybody briefly, President Kennedy sends Robert McNamara, his defense secretary, in to the people at NASA and says, Look, there's something strange going on here.
[02:06:04]  We have a space program, but in fact, there's another space program that these people are pursuing on their own.
[02:06:12]  We need to get rid of that program.
[02:06:15]  This program had somehow snuck in over a billion dollars in financing, Blue Gemini.
[02:06:23]  Before it could get off the ground, one of the things that Philip Corso, who of course gave us the day after Roswell, and he was somebody who worked, it was Colonel Corso, worked for the Foreign Intelligence Office for four decades under three different administrations.
[02:06:40]  And he said, These planes that Dornberger built that were breaking the speed records back then, what were they for?
[02:06:47]  UFO recon.
[02:06:49]  They were chasing UFOs.
[02:06:51]  That's what the whole thing was about.
[02:06:53]  When they get to Blue Gemini, They've decided this is the perfect UFO recon thing, but they don't want to share the UFO file with Kennedy.
[02:07:00]  This is part of the battle over it.
[02:07:03]  X Protect is saying you can develop this on your own and forget about the Kennedy administration.
[02:07:08]  They can't reach into this other level.
[02:07:11]  Basically, with the information and the technology, it will become out of their reach.
[02:07:15]  They'll have to work with us or die, basically.
[02:07:19]  So, Blue Gemini becomes the kind of crucial breaking point because it's a revolt.
[02:07:28]  On Kennedy's side, saying, No, I'm going to send my defense secretary in there to NASA and to pull it away from the paperclip people who have developed Blue Gemini.
[02:07:37]  I'm going to give the program to the military.
[02:07:39]  Now, this is shocking because Kennedy was very careful with not giving the military too much power.
[02:07:44]  But he said, You know what?
[02:07:45]  Rather the devil that I know than the devil that I don't.
[02:07:47]  And he kicks Blue Gemini back to the military, completely flattens the program out.
[02:07:52]  Blue Gemini never goes anywhere.
[02:07:53]  That's the end of it.
[02:07:54]  Kennedy dies, assassination, boom, X 20 dinosaur.
[02:07:59]  We're back.
[02:08:01]  X 20 Dinosaur was not contemplated as a weapon system or even as a prototype of a weapon system.
[02:08:07]  It was a narrowly defined program, limited primarily to developing the techniques of controlled reentry at a time when the broader question of do we need to operate in near Earth orbit had not yet been answered.
[02:08:20]  I don't think that we should start out on a billion dollar program until we lay down very clearly what we will do with the product if and when it proves successful.
[02:08:31]  That is Robert McNamara speaking after.
[02:08:34]  Kennedy is killed in 1964 to the U.S. Congress, trying to flatten out the funding for X 20, which he knows is part of that program, that Blue Gemini program that got plugged out.
[02:08:48]  Now, I'm going to bring up something which has never been brought up and that I found in doing this deep research.
[02:08:56]  So take us back to Guy Bannister for a moment.
[02:08:59]  Guy Bannister was the person who was associated with Oswald, he was the FBI director.
[02:09:04]  Garrison knew him, and he was the person who has the original X Files.
[02:09:10]  He created the SRX designation, and he was the guy who tracked down saucers for the FBI in the 40s.
[02:09:17]  He's the guy who runs Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans.
[02:09:24]  Now, when the Warren Commission comes out, Kennedy's assassinated, Guy Bannister is also killed.
[02:09:35]  So he's out of there.
[02:09:37]  But his wife is there.
[02:09:39]  And a couple years go by, and all of his files have been gone.
[02:09:44]  They've been taken, and all these different things happen where they wanted all that information.
[02:09:48]  After the Kennedy assassination, there's an incredible scorched earth policy where they just want to suck up all the information and make sure none of these people ever can come back to haunt them.
[02:09:58]  So they get rid of Guy Bannister.
[02:10:00]  But Bannister's wife held on to some of his effects.
[02:10:05]  And a couple years later, she gets into financial trouble and she tries to sell those effects to different agencies.
[02:10:12]  Some of them just archive.
[02:10:14]  Some of them survived.
[02:10:16]  And the files themselves didn't survive.
[02:10:19]  They indeed got sucked up.
[02:10:21]  However, one of the things that did survive, and this is absolutely fascinating, is a listing of what the file names were.
[02:10:29]  Now, in Bill Davies' book, there's a record of it.
[02:10:35]  The names of those different files.
[02:10:39]  So, you have the JFK assassination is in that listing.
[02:10:46]  It lists these things about radicals.
[02:10:48]  It lists these things about infiltration of different communist groups and all the rest of it.
[02:10:54]  And right in the middle of the document, right underneath the JFK assassination, it says X20, dinosaur.
[02:11:06]  The trek, the circle is complete for X Protect.
[02:11:10]  One of their own guys, they got rid of him.
[02:11:12]  The X 20 sits right in the middle.
[02:11:17]  The X 20 program being the descendant of the Blue Gemini program that Kennedy shut down because it was an explosive end of the aerospace wing taking power and creating a secret space program, in essence.
[02:11:29]  He sends the military defense secretary into NASA to get the power back on Blue Gemini, pulls the plug on it.
[02:11:36]  They come back with the X 20 dinosaur, which is Dornberger's pet project.
[02:11:42]  And McNamara comes forward and says, You can't do this.
[02:11:45]  However, the X 20, interestingly enough, and the X 15, they will hold the records for speed for manned space planes.
[02:11:57]  And they still do using that X technology.
[02:11:59]  That fight, the battle that went on there between Blue Gemini and Dinosaur, is recorded in the file listing for Guy Bannister in his files, the names of his files.
[02:12:12]  Guy Bannister, Mr. UFO file studying the X steganography, using the X steganography for the FBI in the 40s.
[02:12:22]  He's the guy who lists dinosaur.
[02:12:25]  Why on earth would he list dinosaur on his files?
[02:12:30]  The Dinosaur X Protect program was in play.
[02:12:33]  Kennedy had moved against the aerospace agencies.
[02:12:36]  Garrison had said all the people associated around the assassination have gone to work for NASA.
[02:12:43]  In the middle of his investigation, he decides, oh my God, I've been looking at the wrong angle.
[02:12:47]  You know what it is?
[02:12:48]  It's an aerospace wing that's assassinated the president.
[02:12:52]  What do we have now?
[02:12:54]  The records that are being blocked are the Garrison records.
[02:12:57]  They're literally called the CIA secret files on Jim Garrison.
[02:13:01]  Those are the records that they don't want us to see because they're going to say, We were doing all this observation and surveillance on Garrison.
[02:13:09]  And what was he doing?
[02:13:10]  He was looking into X 20 Dinosaur.
[02:13:13]  He was looking into Hughes Electronics.
[02:13:16]  He was looking into Boeing.
[02:13:18]  He was looking into Lockheed, the United States of Lockheed.
[02:13:21]  And he was looking into General Dynamics.
[02:13:24]  That's where he felt that the assassination resided.
[02:13:28]  Now we have Guy Bannister, who's in the heart of the JFK assassination.
[02:13:32]  With X20 Dinosaur as his file name.
[02:13:36]  There's no reason for Guy Bannister to be studying X20 Dinosaur in any capacity, any way, shape, or form.
[02:13:45]  So, there we bring all of those elements around.
[02:13:49]  And, you know, there's a lot of people and a lot of things I try to fit in there.
[02:13:53]  Let's take a look at Lockheed's X jets.
[02:13:59]  Well, they're doing great now.
[02:14:01]  You know, here they come.
[02:14:03]  They've got the X technology and They're getting ready to deploy it.
[02:14:08]  And that's why, you know, some of the episodes that are coming up are going to deal with the space fence because this is the major operation that they're engaged in.
[02:14:18]  But we have closed the circle on UFO Protect, at least in terms of those connections.
[02:14:24]  We've now placed Guy Bannister in the middle, in the heart of this battle that went on with Blue Gemini.
[02:14:31]  And we've now put in the context what Garrison was getting at, which was the JFK assassination was the result of.
[02:14:40]  The aerospace companies, they were the ones behind it.
[02:14:43]  And in the grand scheme of things, if you want to take into account what Douglas Caddy has brought forward by saying that Hunt told him that the assassination was the result of Kennedy trying to share the UFO file with the Russians, then this all makes sense.
[02:15:02]  They were building a separate space program that was going to be extra constitutional, that was going to be answerable to this hierarchy.
[02:15:08]  They were building it based on the fact that they had the X technology.
[02:15:13]  That's why they eliminated people from Sarbacher out of the public record.
[02:15:16]  I mean, can you understand?
[02:15:18]  It still amazes me to go somewhere to look for information about a public individual with incredible accomplishments who's not been publicly shamed in any way and has, you know, it's not like there's any legitimate reason to keep Sarbacher out of the history books.
[02:15:33]  This is insane.
[02:15:36]  I mean, it's pretty incredible.

=== Eliminating Public Records (14:38) ===

[02:15:39]  How do you do that?
[02:15:40]  Well, let's take.
[02:15:43]  Just a quick moment here to say this in relation to Sarbaker, which is that strangely enough, he dies of a heart attack shortly afterwards there.
[02:15:56]  And he's disturbed by the fact that there was a weird sticky substance on his card door handle when he was leaving.
[02:16:09]  And he, a little while later, he's dead.
[02:16:13]  And people like Wendell Stevens.
[02:16:17]  Talked about this very thing, saying, Well, you know, Wendell Stevens was a great UFO investigator.
[02:16:21]  And he said, Well, you know, the sticky stuff that was on the door handle, that's what they used to get rid of them.
[02:16:28]  So, you know, he'd been in the military.
[02:16:30]  He understood how the operations work.
[02:16:33]  So, we have to understand the level that groups within the deep state, like the intelligence agencies, are willing to play at, which is why when you see the CIA people get around the UFO file and these public companies come out saying, hey, look, I have this ex CIA person, he's going to reveal the UFO thing to the public.
[02:16:50]  We have to understand exactly who we're dealing with there.
[02:16:54]  You know, and we have to understand it.
[02:16:57]  It is the crux of the battle that took place here 50 years ago.
[02:17:02]  And that's how we understand our history and get a handle on it.
[02:17:06]  The question is, how do we get a handle on them now?
[02:17:12]  Knowing this, the information is the first step.
[02:17:16]  That's my basic suggestion there.
[02:17:18]  And with that, I will turn this over to Olivia, who is right in the heart of the discussion.
[02:17:27]  First of all, do you have anything left to drink or do you need water?
[02:17:30]  No, I still have that bottle of water.
[02:17:31]  Thank you.
[02:17:32]  That's a good point.
[02:17:33]  Jeez.
[02:17:33]  All right.
[02:17:35]  So a cult fan starts the night.
[02:17:38]  Hey, a cult fan.
[02:17:39]  So, Olivia, can you ask how hopeful Daniel is that we can turn things around, RE, cap, or does he have a darker view on the future to come?
[02:17:49]  And Deborah Blair says it would be good to know Daniel's sense of the future.
[02:17:53]  Will it shift for the good despite all the corruption and darkness so many are engaged in?
[02:17:59]  Wow.
[02:18:03]  Well, the future is a mixed bag.
[02:18:06]  I mean, it really is.
[02:18:08]  It's going to come down to forces on our side and forces on their side.
[02:18:14]  And there is an awakening that's going on.
[02:18:17]  I think we've seen it that's taken place.
[02:18:20]  The question is when we really get into technological overdrive, that is, if we're too controlled by things that get rolled out, you know, like the entrainment through the 5G technology and all the rest of it, I think that, you know, we run the risk there of.
[02:18:42]  Of having a weakening of resolve due to that kind of technology interference.
[02:18:50]  There's a lot of people, you know, it's nice to be in a situation like this where there's a lot of conscious people in this conversation and we're able to trade ideas on a very high level going back and forth, even here.
[02:19:04]  But the vast majority of people aren't getting exposed to this kind of information.
[02:19:10]  You could say it's available maybe more than it was, but they're flooded over.
[02:19:15]  With you know Fergie and junk like that, so we're in a very interesting um place where we have to figure out how are we going to move this kind of information to people who are being programmed with a lot of junk.
[02:19:34]  Um, and I think the way that we do it is by I apply those rules of dark journalism, which is getting at the official story and developing a counter story and really.
[02:19:45]  Getting rid of the junk conspiracy third force narratives that pop up in the space.
[02:19:50]  It seems to me that's the clearest way to get the information out.
[02:19:54]  You know, I'm a journalist, so I'm a really information guy.
[02:19:58]  So I see things coming through having more information.
[02:20:02]  You know, I love the knowledge is power thing, but it's knowledge applied that becomes the power of it.
[02:20:10]  So, how do we apply this knowledge?
[02:20:12]  We, by investigating things, We're taking the power away from false narratives.
[02:20:19]  That's the first rule.
[02:20:21]  And the next rule, I would say, is to be able to develop a true picture of our reality as it stands.
[02:20:30]  That seems to be the process we're engaged in here, you and I. Hot past 79.
[02:20:37]  If there is a war, who is winning?
[02:20:42]  Well, we saw, I mean, I pointed out that the Kennedy part had real warlike aspects.
[02:20:50]  So in that war, the deep state won.
[02:20:54]  They took out Kennedy, MLK, and Robert Kennedy.
[02:20:58]  And so they won, but they played dirty.
[02:21:05]  That is, they couldn't win at the ballot box.
[02:21:07]  And so they won with a coup, and then a double coup, and then elimination.
[02:21:14]  So I would say this the war is always on being able to identify.
[02:21:23]  Who the adversary is.
[02:21:26]  And the adversary in this case resides more in this collusion of political and corporate force and their interaction with covert levels of power.
[02:21:39]  So, the only thing that we can do to kind of level the playing field is bring more transparency.
[02:21:45]  When you have that, you get a people force because awareness, you know, it's like a great wind that blows these.
[02:21:54]  Great tides.
[02:21:55]  And what happens is we're looking at a situation where we're getting propagandized.
[02:22:02]  You know, we're getting the battle that we're seeing these forces fighting with each other in America and then across the world.
[02:22:11]  And it's relating to this kind of global governance structure, which is based on a corporate model and versus independent sovereignty of nations working together.
[02:22:21]  That's where I think the heart of the battle is because.
[02:22:24]  If you have a sense of identity, if you have a sense of your history, if you have a sense of tradition, you're not going to suck into the transhumanist version of this hyper technological future that they're building with the X technology.
[02:22:36]  It's totally different.
[02:22:37]  So you're going to be, they're going to want to make you an unperson.
[02:22:40]  They're going to want to make you and I an unperson.
[02:22:43]  And to the extent that we take people like Saab Barker out of the unperson file and bring them back into transparency and the reality in the background, Garrison is another one.
[02:22:59]  That's the power that we have to do that, and it does, it moves.
[02:23:02]  These things do move.
[02:23:05]  Okay.
[02:23:05]  Okay.
[02:23:06]  David Donaway said, Knowledge is power to those who have the power to use the knowledge.
[02:23:12]  It is always about energy.
[02:23:15]  So I think that's where you're giving us all this new information, and I think people are curious about what to do with it now.
[02:23:23]  How do they apply it?
[02:23:26]  Yeah, well, that's a good point.
[02:23:31]  Application is the wisdom of the sages, right?
[02:23:34]  That's the real trick to it because this is what's going to happen.
[02:23:40]  We're going to get into a situation where we realize, oh, you know, we can see what not to do.
[02:23:45]  That is, people get a little bit of information about something, and then they're, you know, we see all these people spending all this time saying, well, we're going to put Hillary in prison and all this stuff.
[02:23:57]  Okay, maybe a worthy cause, but.
[02:24:01]  It's not going to change things fundamentally.
[02:24:04]  So, we can see that the trick is with more information not to become this kind of committee, judgmental committee, and just create these realities of the world is against me and all those people need to go to jail and all the rest of it.
[02:24:23]  I think what it is is we have to start to see through the reality of things and get past the kind of fairy tale that they've laid on us through the media.
[02:24:33]  If we do that, we have more awareness.
[02:24:36]  We have Our intuitions are working better, and we have the ability to have a greater impact on people.
[02:24:42]  Now, I don't think, I never think in terms of, you know, I have this information and let's start a political movement with it.
[02:24:52]  It's more that, like great ideas that have come forward, like the work of Professor Scott or like the work of Joseph Farrell or Catherine Fitz, it changes the reality because thoughts are things.
[02:25:07]  And so, once you're thinking, Is opened up once your thinking becomes informed, then the reality becomes different, and that's really what we're after.
[02:25:18]  I mean, even in going into this UFO file situation, you can see that in those groups and those covert groups like the CIA, they understand the public quest for information about these mysteries is too heavy for us just to shut down.
[02:25:34]  What we need to do is co opt it into a threat idea.
[02:25:37]  Now, that's the most dangerous.
[02:25:40]  Turn of events, you know, when they move in that direction.
[02:25:44]  So there has to be a very definite, which is why when the TTSA came out, there has to be a very definite move against that.
[02:25:52]  That is the CIA intel presence around the UFO subject.
[02:25:56]  And we have seen, you know, this is the terrible thing, which is some of the really good UFO authors, we've seen them kind of cozying up to these figures coming out and playing the CIA game.
[02:26:09]  And, you know, I don't like those things where everyone comes out and calls everyone else like a A shill and all that stuff.
[02:26:16]  I'm not saying that.
[02:26:17]  What I'm saying really is that it's not worth it.
[02:26:21]  So I would say to the really good UFO investigators who've studied these things in the past and informed the public around the dangers of working with the CIA and intel groups that they're always spreading misinformation.
[02:26:38]  And the idea that you're going to come out with an openly, a group that openly says, you know, we're.
[02:26:44]  We're a bunch of Lockheed Martin CIA people and work with them.
[02:26:48]  It's just so against the grain of the kind of research that UFO authors and deep state authors have done that, you know, it would be like Noam Chomsky chumming around with the CIA director.
[02:27:04]  Yeah, it's a picture that does not come together.
[02:27:08]  So we have to make the first statement, I think, out of all this work is number one, the CIA around the UFO file is a deadly combination.
[02:27:17]  So, that has to be rejected outright when it comes up.
[02:27:21]  That's really first in the present environment around these topics.
[02:27:26]  And the second thing is to understand and decode what they've been doing with the X steganography, what it is and how it shapes our world now.
[02:27:35]  It's getting a handle on what is actually going on.
[02:27:38]  And with that handle, I can make an informed decision.
[02:27:40]  So, there are so many different people, we make so many different types of decisions, but if I have the information, I can make an informed decision.
[02:27:47]  Okay.
[02:27:48]  Now, John, I'd like me to read a famous quote.
[02:27:51]  Which I've heard before and it's great.
[02:27:52]  And it is when I despair, I remember that all through history, the way of truth and love have always won.
[02:27:59]  There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.
[02:28:04]  Think of it always.
[02:28:08]  Oh, very interesting.
[02:28:09]  That's good.
[02:28:10]  Najat, you have Christine Taggart out there.
[02:28:12]  Excellent.
[02:28:13]  Ice Angel, it's nice to see you.
[02:28:16]  Hotpants8267 says I would like to know if and how all this research has changed your own belief system.
[02:28:23]  Thanks for all that you do.
[02:28:25]  Thank you.
[02:28:27]  Oh, my God.
[02:28:27]  My belief system has been changed for so long.
[02:28:29]  I can't remember the time when.
[02:28:32]  It's converted over.
[02:28:33]  But I will say this that, you know, interesting thing about me and the work that I've done is even since I was very young, I've kind of been putting things aside that I've always been kind of a dark journalist in that sense.
[02:28:49]  And what's been happening, I think, recently is that the X series has allowed me, there's been a kind of a quickening of the types of research that I do, and it has moved.
[02:29:04]  Into another level, which you know, I was told this once by a musician about when you practice music that there's a point when you're doing it where something happens, it's unquantifiable, but you just move into a different level, you're at a different level with how you play.
[02:29:21]  And, um, I think with the stuff that we're researching now, it feels like that hour is upon us.
[02:29:28]  How's that for you?
[02:29:30]  Uh, okay, so John Kay, under which department of the federal government was the X Protect group?
[02:29:37]  Well, what's interesting, and I find this really fascinating, is they were under the atomic.
[02:29:48]  And it's actually, they've used a few different acronyms for this.
[02:29:53]  AISS was one of them.
[02:29:56]  But it's something to protect atomic secrets.
[02:30:00]  And that is how they were able to, you know, it's kind of like when they put things under the Continuity of Government or Emergency Powers Act, they get all these powers to not leave a paper trail.
[02:30:10]  And the X Protect group was definitely working under this atomic umbrella of keeping atomic secrets.

=== Protecting Atomic Secrets (06:47) ===

[02:30:18]  And there was security force oriented with that.
[02:30:24]  Okay.
[02:30:25]  TJ Liberty Bell asks Can we fan out and help you in any way to collect information?
[02:30:31]  You do.
[02:30:32]  You all do.
[02:30:33]  I get tremendous tips and tremendous background from people in there.
[02:30:39]  And I just want to say, you know.
[02:30:42]  It's phenomenal and I use it.
[02:30:44]  So, but certainly if you find things that you think are related to the research we're doing here, send them to me at info at darkjournalist.com for sure.
[02:30:55]  And while you're there, sign up for the newsletter so we have that communication so that that string can't be broken by, you know, if Twitter decides that my content is objectionable.
[02:31:06]  Remember that Olivia and I were looking at this a couple of days ago where when I got to Twitter, they were looking at my video on Pine Gap and it said, Do you want to see this sensitive information?
[02:31:20]  Yes, I want to see the sensitive information.
[02:31:22]  Thank you, Mommy.
[02:31:24]  Okay, what else you got?
[02:31:25]  What's up?
[02:31:26]  Says, can a sitting president declassify classified files?
[02:31:32]  Yes, he can write an executive order and he can say it's in the best interest of the country to do it.
[02:31:40]  Now he will encounter what Trump encountered, which is the CIA comes forward and says, officially on the record, we're going to go against you.
[02:31:48]  Well, what else is new?
[02:31:50]  Unfortunately, it's very strange to me, except that he does like to kind of hold cards in dealing with these people.
[02:32:02]  But my advice to President Trump on the JFK files was release them because it brings greater calls for reform and more transparency to the covert intelligence agencies.
[02:32:16]  And that's what he needs because they've been, you know, in the first year and a half that he was in office, that this.
[02:32:22]  This is their sole job, and regardless of what someone might think of Trump, he's a duly elected president of the country.
[02:32:30]  And we don't want the deep state through the CIA to change the results of an election.
[02:32:35]  So, um, yeah, that's big stuff.
[02:32:39]  Uh, topographic relayer, in your opinion, could the X effect be a function of AI in the future trying to avert/slash provoke a post-human disaster?
[02:32:49]  So, reality is a Wikipedia entry being edited constantly.
[02:32:55]  Wow.
[02:32:55]  Well, you're obviously a writer, the way you put that.
[02:32:58]  Excellent.
[02:33:01]  And of course, you, Olivia, are like the ultimate voiceover artist as well.
[02:33:06]  But I would say this when it comes to future stuff, it's interesting because some of these people who've been able to remote view the past and could read Akashic records have been able to project themselves into possible futures.
[02:33:19]  But I think that because we have free will, the future is always moving, it's a moving diagram, and therefore, It's hard to say what could be being sent back, but I don't doubt for a moment.
[02:33:32]  Just like when these people that we've talked about, like Rudolf Steiner or Annie Besant, when they enter into that Akashic Record idea, they feel the events like they're there.
[02:33:43]  It becomes real for them.
[02:33:46]  But I don't know, you know, I don't see them taking part or changing history so much, but I do see them kind of re experiencing it as a reality.
[02:33:56]  There is something to be said.
[02:33:58]  For the idea that it's possible to actually change the past, I think that's a fascinating theoretical discussion.
[02:34:07]  It's the kind of thing that Arthur Young would have really gotten into, by the way.
[02:34:11]  And I wanted to say this about Arthur Young, who developed Bell Helicopter.
[02:34:16]  In running across his work and finding out that he was a theosophist, and that whole thing about him being involved with the Nine and all that, his work is fascinating.
[02:34:27]  I mean, he's not somebody that I see as a villain.
[02:34:31]  But I do think it's interesting that the Paynes, Michael and Ruth Payne, were so obviously a setup, you know, a kind of a safe house, in a sense, for Oswald to become a Patsy.
[02:34:46]  I do think it's rather fascinating.
[02:34:48]  But I think some of these other characters that are around it, like if you look at Arthur Young and his wife, Ruth, and the things that they did, they tried to create a consciousness academy.
[02:34:58]  And, you know, they did things that you could tell.
[02:35:01]  They understood that there was something wrong with the situation on planet Earth and it needed to be improved.
[02:35:06]  And I actually think that studying Young's work is a fascinating venture and it's so influenced by theosophy.
[02:35:14]  And here we go again with the importance of the mystery schools, like we've brought forward Halcyon and the Varian brothers.
[02:35:24]  This thing comes up over and over again.
[02:35:25]  And in the last episode, we had it with President X, right?
[02:35:29]  Henry Wallace, who was a big theosophist from Halcyon.
[02:35:34]  So, you know, these episodes, what do they say that history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme?
[02:35:42]  There's something very, very interesting going on here with the mystery schools in the public.
[02:35:46]  And we're getting it because we're jumping in through the X steganography, the symbolism.
[02:35:52]  We're getting a handle on it in a way we couldn't, in a way I couldn't say a year ago.
[02:35:58]  So we're moving into different territory together here.
[02:36:03]  And it is fascinating, absolutely.
[02:36:05]  Okay.
[02:36:06]  Giovanni Delgado says You probably already said it, but what is the evidence to prove Mr. Payne worked for Dornberger?
[02:36:14]  Oh, that's not even something that they deny.
[02:36:20]  It's understood that Dornberger had Michael Payne as his apprentice and that Dornberger was his boss.
[02:36:28]  So that's just a historical fact.
[02:36:31]  It's not something that needs to be sussed out.
[02:36:34]  It'll be in any account of Payne's life, of his work at Bell Helicopter.
[02:36:39]  If you study Bell Helicopter and their arrangement, his immediate superior.
[02:36:44]  Was Dornberger.
[02:36:45]  Dornberger was in Texas at the same facility.
[02:36:48]  That's very well documented.
[02:36:50]  So, yeah, no, that's a fact.
[02:36:51]  That's not somebody's theory.
[02:36:53]  It's just a fact.
[02:36:54]  As is the fact that Payne's father in law, Young, and his mother, Ruth Forbes Payne, were part of the nine.

=== The Spiritual Perspective of Secrecy (14:29) ===

[02:37:06]  Paharich and Andre Paharich and that whole idea of these nine people channeling these alien entities.
[02:37:16]  That were supposed to be hovering in some mothership.
[02:37:20]  You know, those things are on record.
[02:37:22]  They're not, that's not guesswork.
[02:37:25]  Was John Newman murdered?
[02:37:31]  Well, it's interesting.
[02:37:33]  No, but Newman is in our next episode.
[02:37:38]  So you'll find out more about Newman.
[02:37:41]  I'm not going to let that out.
[02:37:43]  So, Ton Hedema, what is the real reason for the government to keep the UFO files secret?
[02:37:50]  Wow.
[02:37:53]  In my opinion, this is the crux of the X series.
[02:37:59]  The apothegm effect.
[02:38:03]  There are many reasons why they want to keep the UFO file secret.
[02:38:08]  The wall of secrecy gives them power.
[02:38:11]  Secrecy equals power in these situations.
[02:38:14]  When you're not transparent, you have to share everything with everybody, right?
[02:38:20]  But the deal is, other countries.
[02:38:22]  Have their own crash retrieval programs.
[02:38:24]  It's just that ours is the most advanced.
[02:38:26]  And you could even argue that there were decent reasons for holding back on the UFO file at the time.
[02:38:35]  But after 50 years and seeing the ethics of the people who've been in charge of it, it's no longer, you know, that's not going to be a situation that is tolerable.
[02:38:45]  So I think what we're looking at with the secrecy around the UFO file is there are aspects to it that it is not only advanced technology.
[02:38:56]  But the effect is something that's been recorded in our own history all the way back to Atlantis, which is a reality distortion effect.
[02:39:06]  And there's some aspect of it, which is if we get our hands on it, the potential for disaster in the wrong hands, which I would say now it's slid into the wrong hands, the potential for disaster is what kept the mystery schools transferring that through the years, passing it down in these environments.
[02:39:28]  Now we're in a situation where kind of the worst thing has happened, which is that UFO file has slipped into the hands of these people and they're developing it.
[02:39:38]  But they've shown this small aspect of this group that we do refer to as the deep state.
[02:39:46]  You know, that group has shown a lack of, I mean, in the assassinations, in the control.
[02:39:54]  They're a reckless, power hungry group, and that UFO file in their hands is a bad thing.
[02:40:00]  Uh, you know, we're trying to get out from under of that situation, so their reason for the secrecy might be a greedy one.
[02:40:07]  Uh, I would say absolutely, but the larger picture of why this was kept hidden through those mystery schools, and when Keeley's research came up, and Blavatsky said, Well, mystery schools are blocking that from coming out because what will happen is the small group like the Davos crowd will control the high end technology and just make everyone else basically their slaves, you know.
[02:40:32]  Such a waste of all this civilization and all this time we've spent building up this incredible American Revolution, all these different things that have happened.
[02:40:41]  You know, it's funny.
[02:40:43]  You can lose it pretty quickly if you're not careful, as they found out in World War II when Europe was in a pile of ruins.
[02:40:50]  So we can see the caution around the mystery school side.
[02:40:54]  The national security state, that's a different story.
[02:40:58]  Kathy Carr, 207.
[02:40:59]  How did Daddy Bush become such a big player and titan blooded?
[02:41:03]  Says, if Papa Bush goes, do we get more JFK docs?
[02:41:09]  Yeah.
[02:41:12]  You know, it's quite interesting.
[02:41:16]  I think that there's really like two things that need to be understood in relation to this.
[02:41:21]  One, the Bush dynasty and the Rockefellers, they're on their way out.
[02:41:28]  The Rockefeller, the main Rockefeller died, and that power play that they.
[02:41:33]  Existed under one of the things that Fitz has pointed out, Catherine Austin Fitz, and I think it's a fascinating point for us is this we have to, uh, is that those people, the Rockefellers and the Bushes, actually cared about their public image.
[02:41:51]  But according to her, the group that's coming in cares very little about their public image, they like to just go for it, shoot the works, and they figure we've got the predatory technology, we're going to be the bosses, it doesn't matter what people think of us.
[02:42:05]  That's a scary thought.
[02:42:06]  Um.
[02:42:08]  Can you imagine going down a level from the Bushes and the Rockefellers?
[02:42:11]  This could be a very tricky ride here.
[02:42:13]  But I do think it's a fascinating question.
[02:42:16]  I think when Bush goes, it's not going to make any difference because you still have the Bushes' son, W, who's a former president.
[02:42:23]  I've never bought that line that people said Trump is holding off on releasing the files until Bush dies.
[02:42:29]  It's just not true.
[02:42:31]  It's a Q like excuse.
[02:42:34]  But a very interesting question.
[02:42:36]  I think deeper underneath it is the question that we always talk about why would anyone give up their privilege?
[02:42:42]  Yes, absolutely.
[02:42:44]  Well, it's like the advantage.
[02:42:46]  You know, once you get the advantage, what is the good logic for giving up the advantage?
[02:42:52]  And that's the way that these people think.
[02:42:54]  What's interesting, and one of the things that I think I've concentrated on with Dr. Farrell, is that we're talking about a kind of a small group.
[02:43:03]  That's the interesting thing, I think, for us to keep in mind.
[02:43:07]  But yes, when we're dealing with the UFO file, when we're dealing with the X steganography, when we're dealing with this kind of history layout, and as we've talked about X20 and dinosaur, it's like a separate group operating with all of our public money, all of our public institutions, and all of our progress.
[02:43:28]  And they are deciding, you know what, we can move this among these 20 different families and groups and just control the whole thing.
[02:43:36]  And in the meantime, You know, what is it that Marie Antoinette is supposed to do?
[02:43:42]  Oh, what?
[02:43:42]  Let them eat cake?
[02:43:43]  Exactly.
[02:43:44]  So, I guess, you know, in this case, GMO cake, you know, but this is really where they're at, I think.
[02:43:50]  And that power play has been in place, even though there have been some noble forces in power on our side.
[02:43:57]  And certainly the Kennedys are a great example of that, which is why exposing what was done to them will help us ultimately here around the world.
[02:44:08]  Absolutely.
[02:44:09]  David Taormina, DJ, why does it seem that benevolent forces always take a backseat to secrecy and greed?
[02:44:18]  Well, it's the power struggle on planet Earth, and we all have to play our parts out there.
[02:44:28]  But, you know, it's interesting because groups like Theosophy or Anthroposophy, their answers to situations aren't power because they realize that.
[02:44:39]  Taking that type of approach binds you to the earth and the kind of super materialist thinking.
[02:44:47]  That's not actually a way towards any kind of spiritual progress or soul evolution.
[02:44:53]  And it doesn't move things in the culture that way.
[02:44:57]  But there does seem to be this overwhelming need for this kind of militaristic attitude on earth that we see.
[02:45:05]  And those two forces fighting, I think, is something that we've.
[02:45:10]  You can see it when you go into any important period of history.
[02:45:16]  And it is shocking.
[02:45:17]  I mean, when you go back to the kind of descent of the Roman Empire, you see a lot of that too.
[02:45:23]  And they had all the power, and you thought, oh, it's such a waste because the things that they could do with all the civilization that they had built up.
[02:45:30]  So you could say that it's not only human consciousness that's in play there.
[02:45:36]  There's definitely a war going on that goes beyond just what we would consider sort of ordinary.
[02:45:42]  Human consciousness.
[02:45:43]  Okay, we'll take a couple more questions.
[02:45:45]  Okay, David Donaway.
[02:45:46]  Do intelligence remote viewers tap into the Akashic records?
[02:45:51]  Does their association impair their purest psychic capacity?
[02:45:56]  Yes.
[02:45:58]  There are systems.
[02:46:00]  Remember, like a good black magician, for example, would be able to access all kinds of different things, but they're not using.
[02:46:14]  You know, they're basically creating the scenario in there that is going to consume them.
[02:46:21]  When you are working with that type of information, if you certainly have the ability to use it negatively, and you certainly have the ability by using the methods and the process to achieve results, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
[02:46:39]  So you could say, on one level, the energy doesn't discriminate.
[02:46:44]  Because it's a free will zone.
[02:46:46]  However, when you get into actual spiritual realms, and that's basically where your conversation is going, your vision, your ability to function is based around your level of purification.
[02:47:03]  So, if you're already somebody who's engaged in black magic or whatever, your levels, you're only going to have access to pretty base levels of information.
[02:47:15]  Kathy Carr 207 has a follow up question, which is So, then would you say we are in a spiritual war?
[02:47:25]  Well, I think people who've gone very deep on the spiritual side, the Steiners and Blavatskys and Besant, They would say it's a spiritual war.
[02:47:39]  And what's interesting is, I think Steiner in particular steps up and says it's not something that can be avoided.
[02:47:47]  In fact, it should be something that is embraced, which is the battle of it.
[02:47:56]  Because ultimately, it's inevitable.
[02:48:02]  So I do find that there are a lot of different ways for us to look at spirituality.
[02:48:06]  So I hope that.
[02:48:10]  By looking at this, you know, aspects of history where these things have played out between people, we get a better sense of how important that spiritual perspective is in dealing with this.
[02:48:25]  So, I do think that when you look at that period and you see someone like JFK, for example, trying to make things more transparent for the public, trying to keep us out of wars, and you have other groups that are running drugs, like intelligence agencies.
[02:48:45]  And they want to overthrow other countries and stuff.
[02:48:49]  I guess it's pretty obvious who's sitting on the good side or the evil side in that spiritual balance.
[02:48:55]  If you want to look at it that way, there's no question.
[02:48:59]  Okay.
[02:48:59]  Topographic Relayer says Does DJ have planslash inclinations to sublimate this vast X series into a book or feature documentary?
[02:49:09]  What does Topographic Relayer mean?
[02:49:15]  That is a fantastic question.
[02:49:18]  And yes, and yes is the answer.
[02:49:23]  It is the presentation of the whole thing, I'd say we've let out now about 8% of the information, like definitely under 10% of what we have to put forward on the next series.
[02:49:36]  So there's more coming and different formats.
[02:49:41]  John Kay, I'm curious have there been any men in black whistleblowers?
[02:49:46]  Well, I'll tell you what's weird, and I want to say this in all seriousness.
[02:49:52]  We're not convinced that the men in black that they've sent forward are human.
[02:49:59]  So it's pretty tricky information.
[02:50:07]  I think that there's a level of X Protect individual personnel who are deep covert operators and they just seem menacing.
[02:50:20]  When the work that they're doing or highly manipulative.
[02:50:23]  But there's another group which shows up which appears like these Laplanders, and there's very strange things about them.
[02:50:30]  And they, I'd say that they seem, they're definitely coming, they're extra dimensional.
[02:50:41]  I mean, they're not a normal human being, and they don't display characteristics that you would associate with a normal human being.
[02:50:49]  So, yeah, highly, highly dangerous, and I think the accounts, I think we're still understanding exactly what is going on there.
[02:50:59]  But they're certainly at the heart and directly associated with the X Protect stuff because the people that I spotlighted early on in the show, like Albert Bender and Frank Edwards, they were all intimidated by these people.
[02:51:14]  And they say, in the case of Frank Edwards, that they just got rid of him as they got rid of Morris Jessup.
[02:51:19]  So, very strange chapter there with Men in Black.
[02:51:24]  Okay, we'll take one more.
[02:51:25]  Chris Hall wants me to ask you about Cliff High's statement that they're about to release X technology to save the economy.
[02:51:32]  Well, it's very interesting.

=== Intimidating Researchers (11:45) ===

[02:51:36]  I would like to hear more about what he had to say about it.
[02:51:39]  And we know that Cliff High certainly pays attention to a lot of trends and spends a lot of time on that.
[02:51:48]  I wonder about what they're going to release because of the phony New York Times UFO disclosure push from December that instantly you knew 2018 was going to be very strange.
[02:52:00]  Put it that way.
[02:52:01]  Wow, these are great questions.
[02:52:03]  And we still have a fantastic crowd with us.
[02:52:07]  Okay, listen, you're the boss.
[02:52:08]  I've told you this before.
[02:52:09]  You're the boss.
[02:52:10]  Draw smart.
[02:52:11]  You say, no, what you do is you say jump and I say how high.
[02:52:13]  That's how it works.
[02:52:15]  Says, what was Garrison's motivation?
[02:52:17]  Anti mob?
[02:52:21]  No, no.
[02:52:22]  Actually, what's interesting, you brought in the mob aspect because what they tried to do, because New Orleans has such a history of mob activity, you can't avoid it.
[02:52:32]  You know, it's funny because they talk all about Russell Long and the senator Russell Long and how he had all these things, but He was the son of Huey Long, and Huey Long was such a big deal threat to FDR and stuff.
[02:52:48]  He was this hardcore politician.
[02:52:51]  And it's a very early situation of the JFK assassination.
[02:52:56]  They actually shoot Huey Long while he's waiting to give a press conference there because the aspects of organized crime are so embedded in the culture of New Orleans in that period.
[02:53:08]  But when Garrison gets in as DA, his job is basically he wants to clean things up.
[02:53:13]  And they're saying you can't be like operating as DA in New Orleans without being dirty with the mafia.
[02:53:19]  Well, the thing is, organized crime, if you went to Chicago or New Orleans or Texas, they were just part of the thing that you had to deal with when you were a public official.
[02:53:27]  So I think that Garrison's real point of view on the JFK assassination was that it became obvious to him that the intelligence players, and it wasn't obvious immediately, by the way, it took him a while to come to this conclusion.
[02:53:45]  When he first did his investigation right after the assassination, it was weird to him, but he waited for three years.
[02:53:51]  And then he got on this plane with Russell Long, and Russell Long said, You know, the Warren Commission is fiction, and there were multiple shooters.
[02:53:59]  And he was like, Oh my God, now that makes sense, given my first look at the whole case.
[02:54:04]  And he went back into it.
[02:54:05]  He bought the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission.
[02:54:08]  He read them all.
[02:54:09]  This is the kind of genius that Garrison was.
[02:54:11]  And, you know, we had so many things to cover today that I'm not really sure I. Gave Garrison enough credit, but it was his incredible bravery that gave us the information to be able to look at the situation, to understand that the aerospace companies were involved with this,
[02:54:29]  and to understand the incredible battle that the CIA, that JFK had with the CIA, and the incredible risk that Garrison took taking on the CIA elements and the X Protect group.
[02:54:44]  It's amazing, but we not only get the information about JFK.
[02:54:47]  From the Garrison investigation.
[02:54:50]  Because of his conclusions on the X Protect and the aerospace companies, we get the impression or we get the facts on our side that those are the records that they're keeping.
[02:55:03]  Now we understand why they're keeping the Garrison CIA records.
[02:55:05]  That's where the battle is on the transparency side with the Trump administration and the CIA now.
[02:55:13]  And I just want to say to anybody who hasn't seen it, watch JFK.
[02:55:17]  It is one of the greatest movies, and we have seen it.
[02:55:21]  We own it and we watch it and we quote it.
[02:55:26]  And, uh, well, there's so much in that movie.
[02:55:28]  There's so much, it's an incredible, it's a walking library of what happened.
[02:55:32]  But yes, people like David Ferry and Jim Garrison and Guy Bannister, who really, I mean, in a way, the Guy Bannister information from tonight is pretty mind blowing because now we have a whole course of information about Guy Bannister and Dinosaur, and it's documented.
[02:55:55]  It's not a conversation.
[02:55:57]  It's not, you know, somebody's speculation or whatever.
[02:56:02]  We know for a fact that one of his files that he was working on was on Dinosaur, and that is the Blue Gemini secret space program we've brought out here that Kennedy shut down.
[02:56:13]  Now, that supports what Garrison is saying, and it also supports the show that we did on Pine Gap.
[02:56:19]  So it's quite remarkable.
[02:56:22]  It's quite remarkable.
[02:56:23]  That one's going to sink in for a while, and we're going to get into what that was all about.
[02:56:27]  And I just want to say, if people don't know, Crossfire by Jim Mars was purchased for creating the screenplay for JFK.
[02:56:35]  As was.
[02:56:37]  Where is it?
[02:56:39]  There's so many good books here.
[02:56:42]  As was On the Trail of the Assassins.
[02:56:44]  Both of those form the foundation of the movie.
[02:56:48]  So let's do this.
[02:56:50]  It's been fantastic being with everyone.
[02:56:53]  We're going to wrap up tonight.
[02:56:55]  We're coming back Friday.
[02:56:57]  And what we're going to do is.
[02:57:00]  Make sure in the meantime that you sign up for the newsletter.
[02:57:03]  Stay in touch with us.
[02:57:05]  If you want to get in there and get the really hardcore content we're going to roll out this summer, become a subscriber at darkjournalist.com.
[02:57:13]  And also, you know, make sure that when you're signing up and putting out the Dark Journalist stuff to spread the links, tell people about it.
[02:57:25]  And, you know, you've all been incredibly supportive on the X series.
[02:57:27]  There's only more to come, and we're only going to do better.
[02:57:30]  So I can tell you some of the stuff that we're going to roll out is.
[02:57:34]  It's going to shake some major pillars of secrecy, and that's what we're going for.
[02:57:42]  And I would say, no, hold on, that the last thing I would say is that maybe we're looking at, you know, with the next couple of shows, we're definitely at the end of June looking at some of the Space Vent shows.
[02:57:59]  So we'll do that.
[02:58:00]  Olivia Europe.
[02:58:01]  Okay, let's do two more questions.
[02:58:03]  All right.
[02:58:04]  So Casey Walden asks Are the documentaries, The Men Who Killed Kennedy, accurate?
[02:58:11]  Yeah, The Men Who Killed Kennedy.
[02:58:12]  Well, Nigel Turner took tremendous risks to bring that information forward, and particularly the final set that was banned, which Olivia will attest to, we have a copy of, which is hard to get.
[02:58:26]  That was called The Guilty Men.
[02:58:28]  And that, in particular, I think is the important crux of the entire series because the series had run from 1988, and they did these small documentaries.
[02:58:37]  So they do like an hour documentary every couple of years.
[02:58:41]  So we have 1988, 1995, and then 2003.
[02:58:46]  And it's that last set, I think, the guilty men.
[02:58:49]  That is absolutely crucial and gets into a lot of what we were talking about, but the LBJ, the importance of that.
[02:58:56]  Okay, last question.
[02:58:58]  Mr. Edshin, who is at the very top of the control hierarchy of the X Protect group?
[02:59:06]  Well, if we knew that, I can tell you this, which is.
[02:59:17]  When you get people like John Brennan, who's the drone king, coming out, who was the head of the CIA under Obama, when he comes out and starts advocating for more research around UFOs, you know that you're somewhere in the ballpark on that front.
[02:59:35]  But I do think that that's a deep system of power on X Protect, and you're going to find people involved with.
[02:59:48]  You know, the Atomic Commission, you're going to find people involved with intelligence agencies, and you're going to find deep, deep financial pockets in it for sure.
[02:59:58]  But in terms of labeling who the individual is, I couldn't tell you.
[03:00:04]  Okay.
[03:00:05]  Do you want more?
[03:00:06]  You got the last one.
[03:00:06]  You can come if you want.
[03:00:07]  It's up to you.
[03:00:09]  I know you've got that look in your eye.
[03:00:11]  Well, actually, Brenda Fisher asked something.
[03:00:13]  The solar eclipse in 2024 forms an X over the US.
[03:00:17]  DJ Sons?
[03:00:18]  Wow.
[03:00:20]  Unbelievable.
[03:00:21]  Well, you said it all right there.
[03:00:23]  No, but I will say this there have been aspects beyond just the normal research information around X that have come out.
[03:00:32]  And it seems like this is an incredible period where we are awakening to certain things, information we just didn't have even a few years ago.
[03:00:41]  And I want to go back to the idea that the X steganography is like the Rosetta Stone and that we can unlock certain types of information that weren't available to us.
[03:00:52]  And it really can open up a whole new period.
[03:00:55]  And I think it should for anyone who's studying this, you know.
[03:00:58]  And I'm happy to bring that kind of information forward for us all to research on and get an incredible handle on it.
[03:01:06]  Wow, fantastic show.
[03:01:08]  And Olivia, I have to say, you really did an incredible job.
[03:01:11]  Thank you.
[03:01:12]  You're top notch.
[03:01:13]  And that's even without talking about how much of a retro dance queen that you are.
[03:01:19]  And, you know, seeing Olivia dance to.
[03:01:24]  You want to be starting something.
[03:01:25]  Let me tell you, you've never seen anything like that in your life.
[03:01:29]  So, yes, expertise.
[03:01:34]  Can I ask one more question?
[03:01:36]  Yes.
[03:01:36]  All right.
[03:01:37]  I had this, I really wanted to ask it.
[03:01:39]  Jesus Garcia says The real question for me is what on earth do these people have on all the countries to make them quiet about this reality?
[03:01:50]  What?
[03:01:51]  Well, that goes very much to Catherine Austin Fitz and what she has to say about Mr. Global.
[03:01:59]  But they do have the goods on them because if you step out of line, just like with the black budget, then you become an example for other countries to step out of line.
[03:02:10]  So if you do that and I pull your IMF loan, and then like Greece, you have this guy who comes out and talks a good game, and then they start monkeying with his money and he has to go along with the system.
[03:02:24]  It's a fascinating control system, but you're getting right up against the control and the controllers when you do that.
[03:02:31]  I do feel that.
[03:02:33]  It's hard for other countries.
[03:02:35]  They don't exactly know where we are at with the UFO file.
[03:02:39]  And they have their own programs, but I don't think anyone is anywhere near as advanced as we are on the UFO file, which gives us a great incentive for that kind of secrecy.
[03:02:50]  And, you know, normal types of secrecy, I don't think, are any problem.
[03:02:54]  This, you know, we've had this excessive schizophrenic wall of secrecy.
[03:02:59]  And what's happened as a result of it is unethical groups inside that structure have used it as an excuse.
[03:03:07]  That's the main problem.
[03:03:08]  They've used it as an excuse.
[03:03:10]  To bring more power to themselves, to get rid of their enemies, to try to degrade the public discourse.
[03:03:17]  I mean, that's really the issue, which is the misuse of the secrecy.

=== Fighting for the Truth (02:42) ===

[03:03:21]  So, yeah, here we are.
[03:03:22]  But I do think on this program and with Olivia and with you guys, we are breaking down that wall of secrecy.
[03:03:29]  And it's kind of fascinating because it's happening.
[03:03:31]  It really is happening.
[03:03:33]  I think we have material in our hands that we just didn't have a couple months ago.
[03:03:38]  I wonder if you could just go into the missing trillions.
[03:03:42]  We're going to do a show on the missing trillions.
[03:03:44]  And Catherine Austin Fitz and Professor Mark Skidmore have done an entire audit and they found $21 trillion missing from HUD and DOD.
[03:03:56]  That's for starters, folks.
[03:03:58]  So we have noticed that there are some press forces coming out, some media angles trying to discredit that.
[03:04:05]  And all I can say is that when you get Fitz on the job, you know, it's like you're not going to get any better than that in terms of figuring out.
[03:04:13]  The map of where we are.
[03:04:15]  So that's absolutely crucial.
[03:04:16]  But yes, we're going to be doing a show on that.
[03:04:19]  I do want to say it's terrific to have everyone out there.
[03:04:22]  And thank you so much for joining us on Memorial Day.
[03:04:25]  It's very important for us to keep in mind the people who have fallen trying to do the right thing.
[03:04:30]  And under that type of scenario, that type of umbrella, I'd like to point out that John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy very much are fallen heroes here for doing the right thing.
[03:04:43]  Fighting the good battles.
[03:04:45]  And that's really what it's all about.
[03:04:47]  And for guys like Garrison, I have to say, you know, I have great admiration for people who've stood up to that kind of pressure.
[03:04:56]  And I'd like to know the kind of superhuman stuff that they're made of, frankly.
[03:05:01]  So thank you.
[03:05:03]  And it's great to have everyone here with us.
[03:05:06]  I really had a great time.
[03:05:08]  And I have to say, it'll be great to see you on Friday.
[03:05:11]  And shoot, what's on the menu tonight?
[03:05:13]  What do you think?
[03:05:14]  I want fish food.
[03:05:15]  What does that even mean?
[03:05:19]  That's the frozen yogurt.
[03:05:22]  Froyo it is.
[03:05:24]  Olivia wins again.
[03:05:25]  Unbelievable.
[03:05:26]  Chocolate, marshmallow.
[03:05:27]  Can't go wrong.
[03:05:29]  Nicely done.
[03:05:30]  Thank you, everyone.
[03:05:31]  It was a great crowd tonight.
[03:05:32]  Fantastic questions.
[03:05:33]  I'm overjoyed that you could be with us, and we'll see you on Friday.
[03:05:36]  7 o'clock Friday?
[03:05:37]  7 o'clock Friday.
[03:05:38]  Yeah, normal time.
[03:05:39]  This was special, right?
[03:05:41]  I'm special.
[03:05:42]  You're supposed to say special.
[03:05:45]  So special.
[03:05:46]  There you go.
[03:05:46]  Oh, that's all you can do?
[03:05:49]  How about a little bit better?
[03:05:51]  So special.
[03:05:55]  Thank you, everyone.
[03:05:56]  Thank you, Unchrissy Hind.
[03:06:00]  No, you sound great.
[03:06:01]  Okay.
[03:06:01]  Good night, everybody.
[03:06:03]  Ciao.