Dark Journalist - UFO SECRECY MEDIA CENSORSHIP & FALSE LIGHT! DARK JOURNALIST GIGI YOUNG & ALEXANDRA BRUCE
Aired: 2017-12-06
Duration: 01:56:46


=== Subtle Esoteric Societies (15:24) ===

[00:00:01]  And we're live.
[00:00:03]  Hi, everyone.
[00:00:04]  It's great to be back here.
[00:00:06]  I'm here with Alexandra Bruce from Forbidden Knowledge TV.
[00:00:10]  Hello.
[00:00:10]  Hi, Alexandra.
[00:00:11]  And I'm here with Gigi Young.
[00:00:14]  Gigi Young is joining us for the first time in the live broadcast, although we had her on the show in October.
[00:00:18]  And let me tell you, everyone loves that show.
[00:00:21]  I keep hearing about it.
[00:00:22]  So it's nice to have you, Gigi.
[00:00:24]  Thank you for having me.
[00:00:25]  Hi.
[00:00:26]  So we're going to get into secrecy, all different levels of secrecy tonight.
[00:00:31]  We're doing.
[00:00:32]  UFO secrecy, New Age secrecy, government secrecy, because they're all interconnected and interlinked.
[00:00:38]  And the great thing about the work that Alexandra and Gigi have done is we're really talking about levels of secrecy.
[00:00:46]  So it's kind of a subtle thing in a lot of ways.
[00:00:50]  Political secrecy is very dramatic.
[00:00:52]  Over the last month, I've been covering the JFK assassination.
[00:00:56]  And we've done shows on that.
[00:00:58]  You go so deep into the deep state and you understand their levels of secrecy and what it's about.
[00:01:03]  But that's a labyrinth too.
[00:01:05]  But there's this whole other level which gets into the spiritualistic level, UFO secrecy, which occupies both a kind of government secrecy on one hand and an esoteric, almost religious secrecy on the other.
[00:01:19]  So we start to mix in with those kind of concepts.
[00:01:22]  So, since Gigi is joining us live for the first time, I'm going to ask you you've been doing some very interesting videos about false light.
[00:01:32]  And I really want you to tell us what that's all about.
[00:01:36]  And give us an idea of what the phrase means.
[00:01:41]  Okay, well, I did a video on false light.
[00:01:43]  And so, false light is just, it's basically a term to describe a structure of energy.
[00:01:52]  Usually, it's referred to as being in like the fourth density or lower astral.
[00:01:56]  And it's where you would incarnate or where you would get stuck, or it basically contains a lot of trauma energy or distorted energy.
[00:02:08]  And this level has a lot of tethers and connections to where we are here.
[00:02:13]  And it kind of acts like a membrane separating the fourth and the fifth density.
[00:02:19]  And this is a little bit new agey, these terms, but when we meditate or when we relax, we do start to project ourselves into higher densities and higher places.
[00:02:31]  And so this is just one of those places.
[00:02:33]  And it's also the place that we would know, it's going to get a little dark, but it's also the place that we would recognize things like.
[00:02:41]  Satanic things coming from, or really dark, gross, distorted things.
[00:02:47]  And so that's basically what the weird thing about false light is that these beings can actually be disguised as light beings, or it just gets very weird, but that's basically false light in a nutshell.
[00:03:00]  Fascinating.
[00:03:01]  It's very interesting because it gives me this idea of, you know, a masquerade, kind of a spiritual masquerade.
[00:03:11]  And Alexandra, I know when you were working on the 2012 book, which is Science and Superstition, which is that and the Montauk book are two of my favorites of yours.
[00:03:24]  But you were getting in there and saying, well, here's the science part, here's the superstition part.
[00:03:29]  And you weren't really taking any sides about it.
[00:03:32]  But you noticed that there was a lot of things around spiritualism and a lot of areas that were kind of like gray areas where it was hard to figure out what was going on.
[00:03:42]  Well, I think that especially in the New Age movement, what you find is this very, what's been called boomeritis by philosopher Ken Wilmer, where a lot of these sort of me generation American, sort of, you know, socially ascendant ideals about, you know, about thinking positively and how that's why you're rich and things like this.
[00:04:15]  Basically, very materialistic American values as being proof that you're spiritually developed or something.
[00:04:26]  And so that's just one aspect.
[00:04:31]  But what you see a lot in New Ages is sort of things that are reassuring to the ego, you know, but cloaked in some kind of spiritualistic gobbledygook.
[00:04:45]  Yeah, that's very interesting, actually.
[00:04:47]  Because when I think about that, I think about that whole wave of the secret, actually.
[00:04:54]  That's like the apex of sort of thing.
[00:04:57]  Well, it's very interesting because a lot of people were into it, but it seemed like there was an activation problem for some people.
[00:05:03]  They were like.
[00:05:04]  Well, just because they conflate materialistic values with spirituality and that.
[00:05:09]  Oh, it's stupid.
[00:05:12]  In a nutshell, but really, say what you really mean.
[00:05:17]  I think it's kind of fascinating because when we look at levels of secrecy, obviously there's secret knowledge, there's mystery school knowledge.
[00:05:25]  And if we go back, there's alchemy, there's the Rosicrucians holding on to knowledge.
[00:05:32]  And we have all these different levels of secrecy that go back and back.
[00:05:36]  And one of the things when I looked into anthroposophy, and I've spent a lot of time on Steiner's work, which is fantastic, fantastic stuff.
[00:05:45]  And of course, anthroposophy is still thriving now with Waldorf schools and biodynamic farming and all this.
[00:05:51]  Other things that Steiner left behind.
[00:05:54]  But one of the things that he really got into is that all of those mystery schools had a political counterpart so that you understood when you were rising the ladder.
[00:06:04]  And this is back then.
[00:06:05]  I mean, we're talking about basically turn of the century 1900.
[00:06:12]  All those schools had a political counterpart.
[00:06:15]  So you had to be a brother in that school, you had to be, you know, part of that machinery.
[00:06:23]  So, when we tear into it now and people have some information, you know, we're going off, flying into this thing, saying, well, you know, we see a lot in the alternative media, this person's Illuminati or, you know, Hillary Clinton's Illuminati or something, you know, we sort of understand it, but not really.
[00:06:41]  There's sort of a gap in our understanding of what we're talking about on an average level.
[00:06:46]  Yeah, that's something I don't really know too much about.
[00:06:48]  You see lots of references to it.
[00:06:50]  Juju probably knows more about it.
[00:06:52]  For example, Hitler was supposed to have been a theosophist.
[00:06:57]  Or at least he read a lot of Blavatsky or something, and you hear about secret society, you know, this Illuminati thing.
[00:07:05]  I don't really know what the role is of mystery schools in our geopolitical reality, you know.
[00:07:13]  Oops, somebody's calling me.
[00:07:17]  Yeah, I think that mystery schools and the occult is one of the best kept secrets.
[00:07:25]  And I think it's the best kept secret for a reason.
[00:07:28]  Because when you discover who you are and you discover how to use the laws of the universe, which the secret poorly attempted to do, but I actually think did succeed in helping people awaken to their personal power, although I think that they chose a materialistic way to do that.
[00:07:43]  But it suggests that we can create our own reality, which is something that if you were a grimy person, you'd want to keep all those secrets to yourself and amass wealth, and you wouldn't want other people to know.
[00:07:56]  And I think that there are.
[00:07:58]  Esoteric societies who know a lot about this, including aspects of our history.
[00:08:04]  And I do think it's hidden.
[00:08:05]  And I think that there are different lineages of misuse schools that have splintered and started to battle with each other.
[00:08:12]  And I think that that's kind of, I think that it actually, I think that if we had that information, I think that we'd actually understand our political climate a lot better.
[00:08:22]  I think it's kind of a missing piece.
[00:08:24]  It's kind of a missing piece.
[00:08:26]  And I would be, I mean, I'm sure there's people who know, like really know, but I do feel like it's a missing piece.
[00:08:34]  What do you know, if anything?
[00:08:36]  I know nothing.
[00:08:38]  About mystery schools?
[00:08:39]  Yeah, and their interpenetration of the global powers.
[00:08:42]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:43]  So Egypt was a huge place for mystery schools.
[00:08:47]  And this is going back a very long time because things tend to happen in cycles.
[00:08:51]  So I think that's when a lot of really intense esoteric ideas were being grounded about healing, about just health, prophecy, connection, things like that.
[00:09:01]  And I think that since then, some major schools have splintered off and created a lot of different ones.
[00:09:11]  And you could name them.
[00:09:14]  I think people probably know what I'm talking about.
[00:09:15]  Maybe like the Rosie Cross, or maybe I think some of them have even, it seems that they've infiltrated into universities with things like the Skull and Bones Club.
[00:09:25]  I don't know how esoteric that is, but the point is that now I think that they are far, far, far cries.
[00:09:32]  From anything that we would have recognized or known a long time ago, I mean, look what Hitler was doing.
[00:09:37]  I mean, I don't think that the mystery schools or that the esoteric, creepy meetings are anything near what they used to be.
[00:09:46]  And I think it would be hard to even name them at this point because I think that they are really hidden and shadowed.
[00:09:54]  I don't even know if I'd want to name them on a Google Hangout broadcast on YouTube, to be completely honest with you.
[00:10:01]  So, because they watch it.
[00:10:03]  Yeah, right, right.
[00:10:04]  No, it's an excellent point.
[00:10:07]  This goes all the way back, of course.
[00:10:10]  Even when they founded America, George Washington warned them about the Bavarian Illuminati and how they were going to penetrate and watch out, basically.
[00:10:18]  And we have this idea all the way back to the Knights Templar, where they're involved in political activities, but they're working in mystical areas.
[00:10:29]  Yeah, you have to because it equals power, and you don't get political power without esoteric power.
[00:10:37]  It's like astrology.
[00:10:38]  We have people in power who are known to utilize astrology, numerology, things like this.
[00:10:44]  You can look at the calendar and you can look at certain moon phases where things happen or certain alignments where things happen.
[00:10:52]  And the weird thing is, the moment that you start to get educated, like really educated in symbology and esoterica, you start seeing it everywhere.
[00:11:02]  I was on a hike the other day and I actually found a just totally open solstice circle.
[00:11:10]  That was basically built by the city that I live in, just outside of Austin, Texas.
[00:11:14]  And if you know where to look, you'll find these things that are completely esoteric.
[00:11:19]  But if you're not educated in symbology or you don't know that kind of stuff, and it doesn't take very long actually, then you won't notice it.
[00:11:27]  And that's how these things have been able to go on.
[00:11:30]  But it's under our nose.
[00:11:31]  That's absolutely, yeah, it's a really good point.
[00:11:33]  Actually, some of it has to be right out in the open.
[00:11:36]  Yeah.
[00:11:37]  You know, an example of that, which I don't know the answer to, was Malaysia, you know, Malaysia Flight 370 in 2014, in 2014.
[00:11:49]  I think that the symbol for the airline is like this trident, like a Poseidon sort of trident.
[00:11:55]  And these tridents were showing up everywhere.
[00:11:56]  And the only thing I could think, the only place where I had really seen a lot of.
[00:12:00]  Tridents was with Hindu deities.
[00:12:03]  Seems like all Hindu deities have a trident in their hand, not just Poseidon.
[00:12:09]  So I don't know if you know what the symbology of a trident is?
[00:12:13]  Well, there's Masonic symbology involved with that.
[00:12:19]  And it's very interesting because in the Masonic sense, you've got a real deep mystery school parading around in the open.
[00:12:28]  And anyone who would say to you, well, the Masons control everything or something, You know, they're probably talking about really in the 1500s and 1600s, but there is that deeper aspect.
[00:12:39]  And so you're always dealing with this esoteric circle inside and the exoteric outer public display.
[00:12:46]  There are groups that have to have that, you know.
[00:12:49]  So in Masonic work, one of the things that was good about Gurdjieff and a lot of the work that he brought out along this line is he said, the what to do is always public.
[00:13:03]  That is, in Christian terms, turn the other cheek would be something.
[00:13:09]  In Buddhism, be still and know or something like that.
[00:13:14]  But in the other part, which is so important, is the how to do it.
[00:13:20]  And that part is always persecuted and always goes underground.
[00:13:23]  So you have the what to do and how to do it.
[00:13:26]  So the what to do, I can talk to you a million times over and say, control your emotions.
[00:13:33]  For example, or as religions do, say, love your enemy and things like that.
[00:13:37]  And you can't really get it because you don't know how to do it.
[00:13:41]  So the how to do it is often very hidden.
[00:13:45]  So when we look at something like the Masonic Order, we're really talking about people on the outside of it who just joined as members.
[00:13:53]  They don't know anything about the deeper esoteric history of this thing.
[00:13:56]  I mean, they might learn about it, but they're not in that inner circle.
[00:13:59]  That's a very small, protected circle, and it is in any kind of occult.
[00:14:03]  Situation or esoteric organization, and that includes like the Rosicrucians or anthroposophy or any of them.
[00:14:11]  So there is always that inner circle that draws to itself, it sort of magnetizes people.
[00:14:18]  Now, what's fascinating about Blavatsky, and you know, you brought that up about her, is when those groups are making those decisions and looking at the scientific materialism that's taking over, they know that there's a force coming in and sort of moving society in that direction.
[00:14:35]  And they have to make a decision to themselves do we let this information out?
[00:14:39]  Now, it can be argued that groups like the Nazis took something like Blavatsky's racial theories about Aryans and exploited them into this whole other thing.
[00:14:49]  So, that's the chance that they take when they put in this kind of fascinating, deep information out into the public.
[00:14:57]  So, when this information is esoteric originally, once it gets into the public circle, it acts mechanically again, it acts as the everyday way of life, but it started off as something special.
[00:15:09]  So, I think there is a risk there for those groups that hold secrecy.
[00:15:12]  By the way, I can imagine that not all secret groups are bad groups.
[00:15:16]  We always think of the evil underground or something.
[00:15:19]  But certainly, there are, you know, you were talking about the Egyptian schools, Gigi.

=== Shifting Into Sovereign Spirituality (14:50) ===

[00:15:26]  Those schools were schools where you were developing to become an adept.
[00:15:31]  And, you know, then you could kind of lead your people spiritually and things like that.
[00:15:36]  So there was a reason to keep that information underground.
[00:15:40]  Absolutely.
[00:15:42]  I agree.
[00:15:44]  You, one thing that's interesting about your stuff, though, and I want to get into this here, is.
[00:15:49]  We touched on it a little bit in our interview, but it's sovereign spirituality, which is basically most of your work comes under the umbrella.
[00:15:58]  That's your teaching, isn't it?
[00:15:59]  That is something that I'm very interested in.
[00:16:03]  Absolutely.
[00:16:03]  And I think it's actually the answer to what you were just saying, where when you are actually a complete system.
[00:16:12]  So whatever you want to know, whatever you want to remember from past lives, or even projecting into the future, even things like earth history or whatever.
[00:16:22]  Actually, all exists within you.
[00:16:24]  You have the capacity to access it.
[00:16:27]  And so, when it comes even to mystery schools, you know, I think that's the biggest secret is that we actually already have the ability to do that.
[00:16:36]  So, I think that's the biggest secret.
[00:16:41]  Right.
[00:16:41]  It's all in us.
[00:16:42]  And that's what sovereign spirituality is it's knowing that other people can inspire you or ignite your path.
[00:16:50]  But at the end of the day, the majority of it actually has nothing to do with meetings or anything like that.
[00:16:54]  It's all you.
[00:16:56]  And you getting to know your inner world, how you perceive higher realms, your unique abilities, all of that.
[00:17:02]  So much of it is actually inner work.
[00:17:04]  Such a small portion of it is actually outside of you, even in things like meetings or things like that.
[00:17:11]  Can you extrapolate it out to be like, you know, what happens?
[00:17:15]  So it's sort of like you get out of the guru game.
[00:17:19]  You're not looking to a leader, you're not looking for the latest download from your leader.
[00:17:24]  No, you're using, you begin to look at everybody as having a piece of the puzzle.
[00:17:29]  That is valuable to you.
[00:17:31]  Yeah.
[00:17:32]  And we're all the same.
[00:17:33]  And you become, and it's so true.
[00:17:36]  It works as an intuitive.
[00:17:38]  And so no matter who I'm reading for, their higher self is going to read better than me.
[00:17:45]  Like I am second to anything that they could possibly do.
[00:17:48]  And that's the reality.
[00:17:50]  That's the reality.
[00:17:52]  It's very interesting, actually.
[00:17:54]  There's a Casey quote when he's referring to someone actually asked him, Where do you get this information?
[00:18:02]  In the middle of a reading, and he said, from the subconscious mind of the individual seeking it.
[00:18:08]  So that kind of goes right along with what you're talking about.
[00:18:11]  Absolutely.
[00:18:12]  You can train yourself, and anybody can train themselves to be an intuitive.
[00:18:16]  It is not special.
[00:18:19]  You actually kind of end up in a way, preferably with our permission.
[00:18:25]  If you don't get people's permission to communicate with their higher self or dig in there, some things may happen to you.
[00:18:31]  But yeah, you're essentially.
[00:18:34]  Merging and enmeshing with them.
[00:18:36]  And I kind of liken it to checking the mail.
[00:18:38]  That's kind of, I'm checking your spiritual mail, whatever is there to be harvested or that's ripe.
[00:18:46]  But yeah, you're essentially kind of just enmeshing with both of your higher selves or subconscious minds.
[00:18:52]  When you get into, you know, looking at where we are now in the 21st century, if we're looking around at the kind of spiritual situation that we're in, and certainly it's very different than it was even.
[00:19:08]  20 years ago, really.
[00:19:10]  But even the course of, say, 100 years of development.
[00:19:14]  How is the climate in the 21st century right now for the kind of spiritual development that you're talking about?
[00:19:22]  I mean, is this culture in any way ready to take those kinds of steps?
[00:19:27]  Or, you know, we've been fed so much kind of media and we've been fed so many things to keep us trapped in smaller paradigms, you know, in a very limited consciousness view, one that's very good for marketing teams that can sell us things or for political situations that can manipulate us.
[00:19:45]  But, um, Is this culture ready to make a move?
[00:19:52]  Can sovereign spirituality become something that a culture that's hooked on Wi Fi and Netflix gets somewhere with?
[00:20:01]  I think it's imperative.
[00:20:03]  I think that unless people start to connect with their intuition, I don't think they're going to be able to discern any information.
[00:20:10]  I think they're just going to go crazy or something because you need to have that core developed in order to navigate in this world, I would argue.
[00:20:18]  As for who is.
[00:20:20]  You know, as for is everybody going to get on this board?
[00:20:23]  Some will, some won't.
[00:20:27]  That's just how it is.
[00:20:29]  But I can say that I do think the younger generations are already there.
[00:20:34]  And I think that if the older generations don't start to take account for their higher self or start getting into it, I think the younger generations will take over and push consciousness forward anyway.
[00:20:50]  So you think it's kind of like it's a toss up?
[00:20:55]  Well, you mean as for a number of the number of people who are going to awaken or?
[00:21:03]  Well, that's a good point.
[00:21:04]  Let's think of it this way.
[00:21:06]  You know, let's think of the American Revolution, for example.
[00:21:09]  They say, in fact, that it was 5% of the population that got involved and changed things.
[00:21:15]  So, you know, it is an interesting thing in terms of a numbers game.
[00:21:19]  So you look at something else like the civil rights movement, it took a certain level of the culture to inform the other level of the culture.
[00:21:27]  You know, to come to those types of changes.
[00:21:31]  Certainly, there's a kind of, I'm going to go on the record in saying there's a kind of spiritual depression that's been going on.
[00:21:38]  And I'll use America for now, but I'm sure in other countries also, where America has kind of lost some of that identity around spiritualism.
[00:21:47]  And, you know, there are kind of organized movements that kind of help that process along.
[00:21:55]  So we're looking at it, you know, Some of it's very organized targeting because they don't want you to access that type of power in your spirituality.
[00:22:03]  So I'm thinking just in terms of that situation changing because we're coming into a period, a cycle here, moving into, we're already in the second decade of the 21st century.
[00:22:20]  Are we prepared?
[00:22:21]  You take a culture like at the point of the 60s, for example, they're very interested in yoga, they're very interested in meditation and consciousness raising and all these things.
[00:22:31]  And then that kind of got marketed out, and we got the 80s, which is very much about money.
[00:22:36]  And then the 90s kind of had to switch back, and people were looking at spiritual things again.
[00:22:41]  And then we went into the terrorism decade.
[00:22:44]  And so we're in this weird period now where it seems like there needs to be a move forward on the spiritual front.
[00:22:51]  I think that the cell phone addiction thing is a big stumbling block to any kind of leap forward that you're talking about.
[00:23:01]  It seems like people are more distracted.
[00:23:05]  By this information overload and by technology, than ever.
[00:23:12]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:23:14]  So you think that the technology is kind of interference?
[00:23:17]  Absolutely.
[00:23:18]  And it might even be on purpose, for all I know.
[00:23:20]  I mean, they're going to tell you what you should be thinking about and focusing on.
[00:23:23]  It's totally distracting from spiritual development in many ways.
[00:23:27]  I mean, unless you're actively using the technology to explore that kind of information and learn more about it, I would think.
[00:23:36]  Well, it's funny, right?
[00:23:37]  Because here we go with the mixed bag thing again, because it's a mixed bag, because of course you can access a lot more information now.
[00:23:43]  It's not like technology in itself is bad, it's what it's being used for.
[00:23:47]  And right now, I think it's really being used to distract and to deflect attention away from wherever they don't want your attention.
[00:23:56]  What is the aim of the transhumanist wave then?
[00:24:01]  I think that whoever, I've been thinking about this a lot lately.
[00:24:06]  In some of the papers, you see that the complaint is that the human body is too soft.
[00:24:12]  I think they don't like the human body and they want to engineer it.
[00:24:16]  To be something tougher.
[00:24:19]  I think they do want to depopulate, and I think they want less humans, and they want to transform the human into something that's unrecognizable, something that's more technological.
[00:24:30]  Like a cyborg kind of thing is what you're talking about.
[00:24:33]  It's really interesting, actually.
[00:24:35]  I mean, that's the transhumanist, that guy Ray Kurzweil, I mean, this is what they're all talking about.
[00:24:43]  Oh my God, yeah.
[00:24:45]  And he's one of the worst, let's face it.
[00:24:46]  Crazy.
[00:24:46]  I mean, it's like, do you really think you can download your brain into a.
[00:24:51]  Ship or upload it into a robot, and that's going to be.
[00:24:54]  He really does.
[00:24:55]  He really does.
[00:24:56]  So stupid.
[00:25:03]  If I think about something like this, there was a period in time where, like alchemy and things like that, you know, say 16th century, very underground.
[00:25:14]  And there were all these teachings that showed how the tree of life, you know, they kept this sort of ancient knowledge.
[00:25:23]  And the tree of life.
[00:25:25]  There was a level there which was animal, and the next level up was mineral.
[00:25:30]  And this is, you know, yeah, right.
[00:25:35]  And so, um, the step actually, though, in the tree of life was animal to mineral, and the mineral side being um, technology.
[00:25:52]  So, I'm thinking about this.
[00:25:55]  I did an interview with Joseph Farrell about.
[00:25:57]  About this particular period of time and what they were aiming for in that type of magic, let's say.
[00:26:04]  So, there's a certain kind of technology in that magic at the time.
[00:26:07]  But the idea is my next level, if I can get out of the animal and into the mineral, then that's what you're talking about.
[00:26:16]  That's somebody going into.
[00:26:17]  That would be a silica based life form, which has been sort of the wet dream of sci fi writers for decades.
[00:26:24]  Because silica is, if I recall, it's almost the same thing as oxygen, except it has a neutron.
[00:26:31]  In the nucleus.
[00:26:34]  So it's just a little weightier.
[00:26:35]  It has two electrons, you know, it has another, or I don't know, whatever.
[00:26:39]  It's got a neutron that the oxygen doesn't.
[00:26:41]  And that's the only difference.
[00:26:43]  Well, do you find it kind of interesting, though, when you get into different levels?
[00:26:46]  Like, even when, if there are transgender people who are watching how society is handling this push behind transgender, it's kind of interesting because it's really being pushed so dramatically with like the whole Bruce Jenner thing and all that.
[00:27:02]  And so it's not even like a natural development.
[00:27:04]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:27:05]  I think it's being ruled out very much together with the whole idea of having sex robots and marrying your robot.
[00:27:13]  That's all sort of being pushed out at the same time.
[00:27:17]  Right, right.
[00:27:20]  And this is a whole industry they hope to create also.
[00:27:23]  Well, I think it's whatever.
[00:27:26]  This is definitely, to me, this sounds Luciferian or this sounds like some really dark magic stuff.
[00:27:33]  I mean, I don't know.
[00:27:34]  Gigi, can you speak to what we're.
[00:27:37]  What we're talking about, I just like thrilled my mouth like four times there.
[00:27:41]  Um, so I think that things come in cycles, and I think that we're at a point where we have to evolve.
[00:27:50]  I think my say with technology would be that it's neutral and that it tends to just illustrate to us what we are, and um, because nobody's making uh, someone do 50 selfies a day, I mean, that person is.
[00:28:08]  They have a problem, right?
[00:28:11]  So I think that it's doing us a good thing and showing us what we are so that we can look at it and say, wow, you're a narcissist.
[00:28:22]  And, you know, let's do some work on this.
[00:28:24]  So I think it's actually kind of getting us to ask ourselves really deep questions about who we are.
[00:28:30]  It's a great mirror.
[00:28:31]  And I can say that, you know, had technology not be here, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing and I wouldn't be able to connect with so many awesome people.
[00:28:41]  And I think that's amazing.
[00:28:43]  But when it comes to that evolutionary shift, what if the shift has to happen?
[00:28:50]  And if you don't do the evolution into a higher consciousness being, what if you have to become like, what if technology then steps in?
[00:29:01]  You know what?
[00:29:01]  I don't know if that makes any sense, but I was just thinking that where there has to be an evolution.
[00:29:07]  And if you're not going to do it naturally, then maybe this artificial thing comes in to satisfy that urge.
[00:29:14]  And I agree that it is.
[00:29:15]  There is a really strong, weird, Luciferian kind of connection with that.
[00:29:22]  And it's very creepy.
[00:29:23]  I mean, some of these people that have these sex dolls, I mean, I was watching them on Facebook, and the way that they just, the way it's, there's something happening in there.
[00:29:34]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:29:36]  I saw something like CNN has a technology show, and it was showing a French woman who was going to marry the robot that she was designing and building.
[00:29:46]  And they were just like, yeah, well, whatever to each his own.
[00:29:49]  They're making it normal.
[00:29:50]  It's like, no, this woman is like really sick.
[00:29:55]  Well, that's interesting, actually.
[00:29:59]  See, it's interesting because the technology is opening up this door that the culture is not ready for.
[00:30:04]  That's what we're seeing.
[00:30:06]  And it's like we have to speed up.
[00:30:08]  You know, we're getting the impression of basically like technology being dumped on us at a rate that we're not able to absorb.

=== Kids Grounding Against Cults (08:29) ===

[00:30:16]  So, you know, it's almost like giving.
[00:30:20]  A caveman, a laser gun, right?
[00:30:23]  There is this catch up phase.
[00:30:26]  And also, the technology, for example, we can share ideas here using the technology, and there's all these great aspects about communication and all the rest of it.
[00:30:35]  But let's face it, 98% of it is an online mall, right?
[00:30:38]  So it's more about that kind of knowledge and wisdom coming in.
[00:30:45]  And it's just like the creation of the atom bomb.
[00:30:48]  You catch up to the reality that you can do this.
[00:30:50]  And you don't use it, or you face the consequences.
[00:30:55]  But here's an interesting question around this, and I didn't even know this was going to come up.
[00:30:58]  But, you know, so the opportunity for somebody, and this is for you, Gigi, if somebody's in like an Amish kind of lifestyle, you know, and if they're working the farm, they can't have a phone and they can't have connection with the outside world as far as television and things like that go.
[00:31:17]  Just in terms of pure soul development, I mean, right now, if you take a snapshot in society, do they have kind of an advantage?
[00:31:26]  I think in one way they have an advantage because just being near the earth and just even having your shoes off on the earth is actually extremely healing and it's extremely balancing.
[00:31:38]  And I think that there's a huge connection to the planet and each other as a community that I think we lack.
[00:31:48]  But I don't think they're doing themselves any favors when they're really, really, really strict and they're putting themselves so far away from being relatable.
[00:31:58]  I mean, I think that there are people.
[00:32:00]  I mean, I'm not going to say that it's bad or anything, but I think that they're good in one way, but I think they probably hold themselves back a little bit.
[00:32:08]  Well, especially their children.
[00:32:10]  You know, with that, when they turn 16, they get to go crazy.
[00:32:14]  And then if they want to leave, it's a bit culty.
[00:32:16]  There's a bit of a cult aspect there.
[00:32:19]  But I think that they have some things right.
[00:32:23]  No question.
[00:32:24]  There's no question about it.
[00:32:26]  Do you think that, you know, Obviously, in evolution, the thing is, we're supposed to make this step and use the technology wisely.
[00:32:35]  So, the best of the two worlds would be to use the technology but not lose yourself.
[00:32:42]  A hundred percent, I think that's part of the evolution.
[00:32:44]  And I, and again, I think technology is just showing us what we are.
[00:32:49]  And I think we have to go through this phase and be like, I can have all this stuff from Amazon delivered to my doorstep in moments, and I can have sex with a robot.
[00:32:57]  And you know, we have to, I think, like a Pays.
[00:33:01]  It's really weird.
[00:33:02]  Our kids, kids, kids are going to be like, that was really weird what you did with those robots.
[00:33:06]  They're going to look back and be like, you know, but I think we have to go through it.
[00:33:11]  I think it's a growing pain.
[00:33:15]  No question.
[00:33:15]  No question about it.
[00:33:17]  Alexandra, you produced Heal for free.
[00:33:20]  Yeah.
[00:33:21]  Well, you were talking about grounding before.
[00:33:23]  And this is, yes, this is, you know, our technological civilization has taken us off the earth.
[00:33:31]  I mean, that's where we're from, and we used to be.
[00:33:34]  On it and in contact, physical contact with it.
[00:33:38]  And now it's very rare for people in America, for example, to actually physically touch soil at any time.
[00:33:48]  No, and there's children who grow up in inner cities who never actually really even get their little feet on the earth and they just live in sneakers and concrete.
[00:33:57]  And what that does for the psyche is probably depression, anxiety.
[00:34:02]  All of these things are meant to be released into the earth, whether it be symbolically through a grounding cord or literally going.
[00:34:08]  And I think that's why there's so much mental illness, to be honest.
[00:34:11]  I think that's part of why we have so much mental illness this lack of connection with the earth, which naturally calms and soothes and everything else.
[00:34:19]  Yep.
[00:34:20]  That's the kind of technology right there you're describing.
[00:34:22]  The best technology.
[00:34:24]  The best technology.
[00:34:25]  You can't, there's nothing that will ever.
[00:34:26]  I mean, I heard these weird things where it's like tie this copper thing to your toe and then put it in the ground and like just go outside.
[00:34:35]  That's right.
[00:34:36]  That's true.
[00:34:39]  Oh, yeah.
[00:34:39]  Well, that's always the gimmick, right?
[00:34:41]  We see a lot of gimmicks.
[00:34:43]  Yeah, it's free, but you can also buy this grounding sheet and put it on your bed.
[00:34:50]  Plug it into the grounding rod in your house, and you'll be, don't even have to go outside.
[00:34:56]  I'm laughing, but then, like, I'd probably try it.
[00:34:58]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want one.
[00:35:00]  I want one too.
[00:35:01]  I, you know, I should try it.
[00:35:03]  I'm going to show this next picture, and anyone who is watching, you know, there's no accounting for taste on this, but this is an article out of Medium, okay, which is kind of like a BuzzFeed type of website.
[00:35:20]  And it's all about how someone went undercover.
[00:35:25]  Can everybody see that?
[00:35:27]  And basically, did an investigative reporting sting on this guy, Bentinho, Massaro, who runs a cult in Sedona and Boulder.
[00:35:39]  And they call him Tech Bro Guru.
[00:35:41]  So, okay, I've never, how did you find out about this guy?
[00:35:45]  Oh, well, he's very close in with a lot of that Gaia crowd, shall we say.
[00:35:50]  So, I've run across him a few times.
[00:35:53]  And I always, you know, I kept an eye on what he was doing.
[00:35:55]  I always thought it was a little unusual.
[00:35:58]  So, it's this promotion of this guy in his 20s basically saying, I'm a super being, and Jesus was seventh density, I'm eighth density, and all this stuff.
[00:36:05]  And that is like the holocaust of bad.
[00:36:09]  It's just a holocaust.
[00:36:11]  Well, it's interesting, isn't it?
[00:36:12]  Because when we look at it, we're seeing a situation with a guy like that where, and it's not even that I want to focus on him.
[00:36:23]  I just want to go into this aspect again that we kind of touched on about implants and stuff.
[00:36:29]  When we see this whole wave of Of something masquerading as a kind of a quick fix.
[00:36:35]  It's kind of too simple as spirituality.
[00:36:38]  And we're flooded by that.
[00:36:40]  And it's supposed to be some kind of an antidote to this other flood of all the technology being dumped on us with no purpose.
[00:36:47]  You have to get the latest update or whatever.
[00:36:51]  So you have these kind of two forces along.
[00:36:55]  And on one side, they're harvesting your money, dumping all this technology on you.
[00:36:59]  And on the other side, they're marketing your spirituality.
[00:37:03]  They're harvesting your kind of.
[00:37:06]  And your money.
[00:37:07]  Well, totally.
[00:37:07]  I mean, he seems like a very classic case of a, you know, maybe demonically possessed.
[00:37:13]  You know, this is talk about dark light.
[00:37:16]  I mean, eighth density dark light.
[00:37:18]  I mean, that's what that is.
[00:37:21]  Yes, yes.
[00:37:22]  It's supposed to be spiritual, but it's like a sex cult.
[00:37:25]  What?
[00:37:25]  Yes.
[00:37:26]  And so, what does that tell us about this kind of period where we're kind of very vulnerable, in a sense?
[00:37:33]  Well, if we believe the Hindus, we're in the Kali Yuga, we're in the age of vice, we're in the age of.
[00:37:40]  Darkness.
[00:37:42]  Yeah, and I think that we were just talking about how technology has all these shadow sides.
[00:37:49]  So does the new age.
[00:37:50]  So does spirituality.
[00:37:52]  And there's nothing better to teach discernment than to fall, unfortunately, prey to something like that or to see that.
[00:38:01]  Then you're finally going to get the nuances.
[00:38:03]  And that's why, unfortunately, so many people get caught up in this stuff and they, you know, It's ultimately for discernment, to teach discernment.
[00:38:14]  That's what I think is going on.
[00:38:17]  And hopefully, everything and everyone who is doing weirdo stuff gets exposed.
[00:38:24]  And everything, seriously, because there are some great things about the new age, about consciousness, about meditation, and as you were saying about the earth.
[00:38:35]  And I would like to get into that stuff, please.
[00:38:38]  You know, like I'd like to get into the good stuff rather than some of the weird stuff I'm hearing about that just makes everything look bad.

=== Vertical And Horizontal Mystics (13:45) ===

[00:38:46]  It does.
[00:38:46]  And there is kind of a shadow cast by that type of work.
[00:38:50]  There's no question about it.
[00:38:52]  But, you know, it is laugh or cry when you get into those situations because it's enough.
[00:38:57]  You know, with the whole masquerade around the UFO stuff, you have this incredible, you know, great research, even over the past 70 years on the UFO topic.
[00:39:09]  And you have solid researchers who've done it.
[00:39:13]  There's a lot of research history and there's a lot of contactees around it.
[00:39:16]  Who were also very solid, and they had very consciousness raising experiences around it.
[00:39:22]  And then we have the circus, the kind of circus like the stuff we were looking at, that kind of uses UFOs as a flashpoint to say, you know, let's get into disclosure, man, and let's kind of, you know, create this Facebook group about it and then start harvesting everybody about it.
[00:39:42]  And, you know, here's an interesting thing when I worked at the Wall Street Journal, there was something that you had to understand.
[00:39:50]  When you did business analysis, when you looked at a business, you had to understand their vertical and their horizontal.
[00:40:02]  The vertical would be the space that they were in, and then the horizontal would be the different aspects of the space.
[00:40:11]  So, for example, if you were looking at technology, that would be the vertical, and the horizontal would be like Apple, Google, Microsoft, and it would be like software and all these different things.
[00:40:22]  And what was fascinating was when I applied that grid onto alternative and new age and UFOs and looking at this, and there were some cable companies that were cable TV companies, which everyone's very familiar with, who were marketing these types of ideas and not really going for grounded stuff, just going for anything that had a good headline and you could get people to subscribe to.
[00:40:50]  And what I started to see was by 2015, this grid.
[00:40:55]  Was there again, and I was like, Where have I seen this vertical horizontal thing going on?
[00:41:02]  And now I had seen it so often from business analysis and things that I looked at previously around a more corporate type environment.
[00:41:11]  And here it was sitting in the middle of the kind of UFO New Age spiritual world.
[00:41:16]  And I recognized it and I realized, Oh my God, they're picking up this horizontal and that horizontal and this horizontal.
[00:41:21]  And there's a whole formula to how it gets done because they're doing it for business purposes and they're.
[00:41:27]  Competing with each other, but this is supposed to be a grid for the corporate world when they compete for different things.
[00:41:33]  It's not the kind of thing that you would expect, for example, a spiritual or a new age type community to move forward with.
[00:41:40]  But I see it replete throughout the entire new age and UFO movements now.
[00:41:47]  So it's a very tough thing because on one side, you have this onslaught of the media world and the mainstream media, you know, and getting you into kind of a Kardashian gender mentality.
[00:42:01]  And You want to get away from that and you want to move into something that is important.
[00:42:05]  Like you were saying, there's so much, there's so many good things about the legacy of New Age.
[00:42:12]  And the, you know, it started in 1908 with A.R. Raj, who put together this magazine and he put these ideas together and he started talking to people in theosophy, started talking to people in anthroposophy.
[00:42:24]  And before you knew it, you know, there were all kinds of things that were happening as a result of that.
[00:42:29]  Meditation was getting big, yoga became very popular.
[00:42:32]  The Theosophical Society did the first.
[00:42:34]  Cremation in the United States.
[00:42:36]  I mean, that's a huge movement.
[00:42:38]  There's a huge move there.
[00:42:40]  And with some of the other groups like Anthroposophy and stuff, they brought in Waldorf schools, you know, alternative education, things like that.
[00:42:49]  So there's this incredible legacy.
[00:42:50]  And now we've come up to this weird period where people like the Sedona Tech Bro guy are pretty much, you know, making millions of dollars.
[00:43:00]  And it's kind of a harvesting operation, you know.
[00:43:04]  And so we've kind of moved into this period where some of those tools in the internet have backfired.
[00:43:12]  Yeah, well.
[00:43:16]  It, yeah, it's interesting.
[00:43:18]  I don't so much have a problem with people earning money doing whatever they're doing.
[00:43:23]  I have a problem with just what they're doing is wrong.
[00:43:26]  Yes.
[00:43:27]  For me, it really comes down to are you connecting with this?
[00:43:31]  Is what you're saying true?
[00:43:33]  Is what you're presenting correct?
[00:43:36]  What are your intentions?
[00:43:37]  That's really where it is for me.
[00:43:40]  And you know what it is?
[00:43:42]  You know what it is with mystics is that the best mystics you will find don't like to be in front of people.
[00:43:49]  They don't like it.
[00:43:50]  Some of the best intuitives and stuff I've ever known, they just prefer to be out in the woods or they're just very to themselves.
[00:43:58]  They have their own little quiet lives because they're very sensitive.
[00:44:02]  And so I think that there's a lot of people that end up gaining huge popularity and becoming beacons or heads of the new age or heads of spirituality because they like attention or there's a narcissistic.
[00:44:18]  When I think a lot of mystics, I think it's very rare to find an intuitive or mystic that really enjoys being in front of people.
[00:44:27]  I think that's a rare mix.
[00:44:29]  Yeah, it's a different kind of focus.
[00:44:33]  Yeah, and when you're really sensitive, it can be a lot to be in front of people.
[00:44:40]  So it's not a mystery to me that some people that are really narcissistic in the new age are doing that.
[00:44:52]  Absolutely.
[00:44:52]  Well, let's talk about the flip side of the coin, which is what is the serious penalty about being cynical about things like intuition, your higher self, understanding your purpose in the world?
[00:45:05]  I mean, you lose a lot when you get cynical on these things, right?
[00:45:09]  You want to be pretty neutral.
[00:45:13]  You want to not believe everything that you see.
[00:45:15]  You want to have a strong core.
[00:45:17]  You kind of want to categorize things.
[00:45:18]  I really resonate with this.
[00:45:20]  This is questionable, but I kind of like it.
[00:45:23]  I don't know.
[00:45:23]  You know, don't be afraid to categorize things within yourself.
[00:45:28]  But yeah, you want to be careful with the cynicism because the risk is that you cut yourself off from your own soul.
[00:45:39]  You cut yourself off from your own heart and your own potential.
[00:45:42]  And you become, I believe that it causes depression.
[00:45:46]  You know, it's when you're missing yourself.
[00:45:49]  And you really cut yourself off from an aspect, a valuable aspect of your own being.
[00:45:53]  So that's why you don't want to be too cynical.
[00:45:56]  Absolutely.
[00:45:57]  Also, originality.
[00:45:59]  One of the biggest things you cut yourself off from is your originality, your creativity, your genius.
[00:46:04]  That comes from your spirit, in spirit, inspired.
[00:46:07]  So you risk losing your originality, original thought, that kind of thing.
[00:46:14]  It's interesting you said original thought there because one of the things that you've pointed out, and you did it in your most recent video, which was about plagiarism.
[00:46:26]  Yeah.
[00:46:26]  I thought that was fascinating because it's so important.
[00:46:29]  And there is this kind of airy quality in spiritual research about nobody owns anything, basically.
[00:46:38]  But that's not true, is it?
[00:46:41]  It's not true in my books.
[00:46:44]  It's like any other art.
[00:46:46]  And I appreciate it when good material is out there for sure.
[00:46:51]  But the problem is if you just let everybody copy everybody else and there's no big deal, it's very difficult.
[00:46:57]  To discern whether someone is genuine or someone's not genuine, because if you're genuinely creating something, then you're connected to a completely different place spiritually than somebody anybody can copy something.
[00:47:11]  So, it's really important to have those boundaries so that you can actually tell who is giving you the information and what they're connected to.
[00:47:19]  Because it's one thing to create something, it indicates that you're connected to your spirit, that you're going into higher realms, maybe a 5D.
[00:47:29]  Maybe above that.
[00:47:30]  You're going beyond the false light that we were just talking about.
[00:47:34]  But copying doesn't take that.
[00:47:37]  So it indicates where the person is rooted in.
[00:47:41]  How dangerous are imitative movements that are using spiritual tactics, you know, using marketing tactics in spiritual lingo?
[00:47:57]  Some people will go into them and they'll.
[00:48:00]  Actually, probably benefit from it and get out or whatever.
[00:48:04]  But for others, it will be detrimental, it'll be traumatic, it'll be traumatizing for them, depending on how dark they are.
[00:48:13]  I mean, sometimes these things can get pretty dark.
[00:48:17]  It really depends, but it can be really detrimental.
[00:48:21]  Ultimately, again, I think it's for discernment to get into, you know, sometimes you have to experience that to learn those nuances, to feel the emptiness.
[00:48:30]  I think that's a really big thing intuitively or empathically.
[00:48:34]  One indicator of knowing whether something's real or not real is depth and a full body feeling.
[00:48:41]  And sometimes you can feel into things psychically and you can feel an emptiness, like boom, like it's hollow or an emptiness or things are very shallow.
[00:48:47]  That's a first indicator psychically, using your psychic senses, that something's not there.
[00:48:53]  So, and I'll leave that.
[00:48:56]  Wow.
[00:48:57]  So it's kind of an intuitive test.
[00:48:59]  It's an intuitive test, and it's really important how to feel truth in your body and to trust that.
[00:49:04]  But sometimes you have to go into those experiences.
[00:49:07]  And I've certainly had experiences in my life where I was not like following the wrong people and stuff, but it taught me nuance and it taught me how to recognize certain patterns so they are useful, but it's hard to watch.
[00:49:20]  It's hard to watch these things happen because you remember the pain of, you know, the betrayal and things like that.
[00:49:29]  So it's hard to watch, but there is a bit of a necessity to it, I feel like, as well.
[00:49:34]  Yeah, right.
[00:49:35]  It's there, it's kind of a test.
[00:49:38]  It is, it is, it is like a test.
[00:49:42]  But some people, they certainly, they are certainly tested.
[00:49:48]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:49:49]  What's interesting, Alexandra, you, how do you cultivate a sense of humor with, you know, Forbidden Knowledge TV?
[00:49:56]  You're covering political corruption, you're covering chemtrails, you're covering transhumanism.
[00:50:05]  You know, how do you, in the middle of all that, how do you cultivate kind of a good worldview?
[00:50:12]  I don't know that I do.
[00:50:14]  No, I mean, you have to say.
[00:50:17]  You have to, you have to get the humor.
[00:50:20]  I mean, there's also, you know, at the same time that everything exists, it also doesn't.
[00:50:30]  It's just, it doesn't, it kind of is meaningless.
[00:50:34]  And it doesn't mean anything that it's empty and meaningless.
[00:50:40]  You know, I mean, you can detach.
[00:50:43]  I mean, you don't want to stay in a place of meaninglessness because I don't think that that's healthy for people.
[00:50:48]  But things don't really, if you make things, you know, you really are the person who makes things mean.
[00:50:53]  Things to you, and that it's coming from the information that you were raised with and the information that you're running on, you know, your database.
[00:51:04]  But that's when it's good to just clear everything and just realize that it doesn't really mean anything.
[00:51:14]  And then you can start making things and working towards making things mean something that are empowering and make life worth living.
[00:51:28]  Well, I'm thinking that it's an interesting thing because, of course, we have this great balance, and you know, it's like you have to be able to go into something like the deep state, for example.
[00:51:43]  So, I have to be able to analyze the deep state, and you know, when I'm looking at it, I have to be able to, without becoming cynical about the entire world and the entire political process, the same way that.
[00:52:00]  Gigi has to take a look at these different teachings, and she's saying to people, Don't be cynical because you're missing out if you become cynical.
[00:52:08]  So it's interesting with you because I think you're more on the front lines than almost anybody because you're pitching stories and putting them together every day.
[00:52:16]  And you know, very often, a lot of the stuff and the work that you do drives what I see.
[00:52:22]  You know, people pick up on your videos and they're reposting them everywhere.
[00:52:25]  So I just think it's interesting because you know, it's sort of like keeping that distance.

=== Solar Wind And Geomagnetic Reversal (02:09) ===

[00:52:31]  How much.
[00:52:32]  News is too much news.
[00:52:33]  How much knowledge is too much knowledge?
[00:52:34]  Well, to do what I do, it's too much.
[00:52:39]  Yeah, it's interesting though, because it takes a certain type of intellectual fortitude and sort of like a spiritual shield in a sense, would you say?
[00:52:49]  Yeah, it does.
[00:52:54]  Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[00:52:57]  What was the story you posted today, by the way, Alexandra?
[00:53:00]  Today was a story about, it's an interesting.
[00:53:04]  Scientific hypothesis about it's called star water.
[00:53:08]  Which, okay, there's a lot of evidence that the Earth is currently undergoing a geomagnetic pole reversal.
[00:53:18]  And what happens with that is that our magnetosphere becomes weakened, and the solar wind, which is full of these charged particles, ions, mostly protons, electrons, and alpha particles, which basically hydrogen.
[00:53:39]  Is just an electron and a proton.
[00:53:43]  So that's, you know, what these ions that are coming out of the sun are basically the building blocks of hydrogen.
[00:53:50]  And then in our upper atmosphere, which is now weakened and more susceptible to solar wind, is full of accessible oxygen.
[00:53:59]  And so this one theory is saying that star water is this phenomenon when, say, that there's a coronal mass ejection and that blows all of these charged particles.
[00:54:11]  Towards our upper atmosphere, towards the ionosphere, it creates, it possibly can create the star water, which is water that's manufactured in our upper atmosphere.
[00:54:24]  Or I shouldn't say atmosphere, it's in the ionosphere and above.
[00:54:28]  And in that, there may be the great flood of Noah's Ark, and in so many mythological traditions all over the world, might have come from some kind of an event like this.

=== Mayan Calendar Cycles (08:58) ===

[00:54:40]  There are a lot of biblical references, and even in the Greek languages, I've heard that in ancient Greek there was no word for the color blue, which is completely nuts when you think of Greece today.
[00:54:52]  I mean, it's almost like color blue is part of the definition of Greece itself.
[00:54:57]  I mean, when you think of the blue Mediterranean, the blue is in the flag of Greece today.
[00:55:03]  But they say that in very ancient times there was not even a word for the color blue.
[00:55:10]  So, what is that all about?
[00:55:11]  And there are many other things in the.
[00:55:16]  In the ancient Iranian tradition, I'm forgetting the name of their version of Noah's Ark, but they were talking about how there was a time when it was an eternal spring, when it was the same, it was never harsh weather, it was always nice.
[00:55:30]  And this also speaks to ancient Greek and Hindu ideas of the yuga, of this kind of, it's a cyclical, this idea of cyclical ages.
[00:55:44]  And there being golden ages where everything's perfect and golden.
[00:55:48]  And then it decays.
[00:55:51]  Yeah, right.
[00:55:52]  It's natural.
[00:55:54]  Right.
[00:55:55]  So.
[00:55:55]  Natural falling away, in a sense.
[00:55:57]  Right.
[00:55:57]  It's just a cycle.
[00:55:58]  It's just like a breath of Brahma.
[00:56:00]  I mean, it's like it goes in and it goes out.
[00:56:04]  It's like King Arthur.
[00:56:05]  It comes along.
[00:56:06]  Right.
[00:56:07]  It happens and then it fades away and then it comes back.
[00:56:10]  We've got legends of Excalibur back there, and then a thousand years later we pick up on it.
[00:56:15]  It's really interesting, actually, because.
[00:56:18]  You wrote something about Terence McKenna and his waves.
[00:56:21]  Do you remember what that was called?
[00:56:23]  The time wave zero graph that he made.
[00:56:26]  And did that have anything to do with that?
[00:56:28]  Yes, it did, actually.
[00:56:30]  He did something.
[00:56:32]  He crossed the I Ching with the Mayan calendar.
[00:56:36]  That's what he did, with the cycles of the Mayan calendar.
[00:56:39]  And he came up with a graph that charted novelty in Earth and human history.
[00:56:49]  This graph would predict, it would show times of great extinctions, it would show times of great invention and novelty.
[00:57:00]  And he was, what his graph was showing was that 2012?
[00:57:04]  I don't remember if it corresponded with 2012, but yeah, maybe it did because the Mayan calendar did.
[00:57:11]  Right.
[00:57:12]  If the Mayan calendar has been rectified correctly with the Western one, that yes, that novelty would.
[00:57:22]  Become overwhelming and it would be the end of history.
[00:57:25]  That's what he said.
[00:57:27]  He didn't live long enough to see it.
[00:57:29]  That's fascinating.
[00:57:29]  Oh, he knew so much, actually.
[00:57:32]  What's that?
[00:57:33]  He knew so much.
[00:57:35]  Yeah, well, he was an incredibly erudite and well read and incredibly articulate person.
[00:57:42]  But didn't he get a lot of his knowledge from psychedelics?
[00:57:45]  Isn't that part of it?
[00:57:46]  Yes.
[00:57:47]  I mean, not only.
[00:57:47]  I mean, he was like a professor, his brother was.
[00:57:52]  He was an anthropologist who studied South American cultures and their use.
[00:57:59]  What he said is that these Native Americans, the Amerindians of South America, that their contribution to humanity was using their bodies as a laboratory of consciousness.
[00:58:13]  And that's really what they had given to the greater family of humanity.
[00:58:19]  That was fascinating.
[00:58:21]  Gigi, you recently.
[00:58:25]  Gave your overview on something that is very overused in this entire lexicon of alternative media, independent media, independent research, which was about Anunnaki.
[00:58:43]  Yeah.
[00:58:44]  How did that go when you did that?
[00:58:45]  Did you get some Anunnaki fans that gave you a hard time?
[00:58:50]  You know, there are certain videos that I make that you get some weird comments from some weird accounts.
[00:59:00]  That was one of those videos.
[00:59:02]  That was the false light one.
[00:59:05]  Yeah, that was interesting.
[00:59:08]  On the cycles, I don't know if you guys have ever heard of Greg Braden.
[00:59:15]  He talks about that as well.
[00:59:17]  And he also brings in finances and says that finances have a season as well.
[00:59:23]  And you can tie the financial markets into it.
[00:59:26]  And you can also tie war into it.
[00:59:28]  And he has a book, I think it's called Fractal Time.
[00:59:32]  And so he does, he works on that as well.
[00:59:35]  It's fascinating.
[00:59:37]  Yeah.
[00:59:38]  I've seen him a few times and he's very impressive, I think, in terms of the way he lays things out.
[00:59:45]  Yeah.
[00:59:45]  And he, I think, I believe right now, when he did his interpretation of the cycles, we are in a time that's, there's a high propensity for war right now.
[00:59:54]  And, but the finances, I believe he said about finances that we're in like a spring of finances.
[01:00:00]  Yeah.
[01:00:01]  That the financial, it's a spring or something.
[01:00:03]  I think.
[01:00:04]  But it's interesting because as you guys were saying that, I thought about Greg.
[01:00:08]  Spring is better than winter.
[01:00:10]  There's no question.
[01:00:11]  Well, it seems kind of like we're in a spring or summer anyway.
[01:00:13]  I don't know.
[01:00:15]  But he did do some interesting work, so people can check him out too on it.
[01:00:20]  Well, you know, just back to the Anunnaki thing a little bit.
[01:00:26]  What was it that you were saying that didn't sit right with you about this concept?
[01:00:31]  Because I think that you penetrated the idea well.
[01:00:34]  You went in there and said, there's something missing here.
[01:00:37]  I like this outline from Samaria, but there's something wrong with this whole paradigm about slavery.
[01:00:44]  Yes.
[01:00:45]  So everybody knows Sitchin's work.
[01:00:48]  And it's probably the most recognized story about human history, but it's a small, small, small piece.
[01:00:55]  And I think it's very bloated.
[01:00:57]  I'm just not a big person, I don't resonate with that.
[01:01:00]  Everything that I've gotten from my own memories and my own guides is very different.
[01:01:04]  And I think that the fact that it's presented as humanity being a slave, Like basically, part animal, part slave.
[01:01:12]  I think that that serves as a function to keep people thinking in an inferior way.
[01:01:19]  And I think that there are still people that would like to have that be the way that we think.
[01:01:26]  And I think that's why the ET issue is so guarded and so, I mean, that it is so incredibly guarded.
[01:01:33]  It's guarded by hidden files that are obviously top secret, but it's also, we guard ourselves from it.
[01:01:39]  I mean, I have like members of my own family that think I'm nuts.
[01:01:43]  We police each other.
[01:01:44]  With it.
[01:01:45]  It's so guarded.
[01:01:46]  It's so taboo.
[01:01:46]  And I think that that's because we're not supposed to get to the next level of our origins where we remember who we truly are, which is actually a lot of different star races.
[01:01:57]  And there's actually a strong connection with the planet itself.
[01:02:02]  And the planet has a whole story and a history that we're also represented in, and things like that.
[01:02:06]  There's so much more to it.
[01:02:08]  And it just would change everything.
[01:02:11]  And so I do think that there's a lot of, like, I do think that there's kind of almost like a reason.
[01:02:17]  This is me with my tinfoil hat on now.
[01:02:21]  It looks good on you.
[01:02:22]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:02:24]  I was actually going to make one for this evening.
[01:02:26]  And then I was like, cool down, your sense of humor.
[01:02:30]  So, yeah, that's what I think about Anunnaki.
[01:02:35]  I think it's a half truth.
[01:02:36]  I think it's a half truth that doesn't serve us.
[01:02:39]  And I think that there are still people that would like to keep that there and would like to control that and kind of control disclosure so that that's still connected with it.
[01:02:49]  No question.
[01:02:50]  No question.
[01:02:50]  It's fascinating, too, because.
[01:02:53]  When we get into this issue about disclosure and that whole thing, you know, for example, disclosure really, Steve Bassett and Greer and all those people came along to push this.
[01:03:06]  And a lot of this really came out of the 90s.
[01:03:09]  And I think it's interesting because there is a kind of a wave there in the 90s when you're getting into things like the Phoenix Lights and you're getting into things, you know, the whole culture is adapting very quickly to it.
[01:03:23]  And the other high point, I think earlier, was the 70s.
[01:03:26]  There are these waves that come up and get knocked down.
[01:03:29]  But I think that we don't understand how to integrate that into the culture from the leadership level, let's say.

=== Government Secrecy And Disclosure (14:20) ===

[01:03:39]  I mean, I think actually average people could integrate it quite well.
[01:03:42]  And on the ground, a lot of them seem to know that reality.
[01:03:44]  I think I always refer to polls that say that the majority of people do actually believe in off world civilizations.
[01:03:54]  It's just the being able, I guess, To make it into a conversation piece and have other people believe it, you know, it's very tricky.
[01:04:03]  Now, what's interesting is I came across something I wanted to get everybody on board with.
[01:04:09]  And it is, there's two things actually.
[01:04:13]  If I can get them without destroying the entire broadcast, let's see.
[01:04:21]  Okay, I got it.
[01:04:24]  The first thing this is a letter from Gordon Cooper, the astronaut, who's Really, you know, one of the best known astronauts, in addition to Edgar Mitchell, who was in your Heal for Free movie.
[01:04:37]  And this is his letter to the ambassador of Grenada to the United Nations, November 9th, 1978.
[01:04:48]  Ambassador Griffith, dear Ambassador Griffith, and this is Cooper's letter, I wanted to convey to you my views on our extraterrestrial visitors, popularly referred to as UFOs, and suggest what might be done to properly deal with them.
[01:05:02]  I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets, which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth.
[01:05:11]  Nicely, nicely put.
[01:05:12]  I feel that we need to have a top level coordinated program to scientifically collect and analyze data from all over Earth concerning any type of encounter to determine how best to interface with these visitors in a friendly fashion.
[01:05:28]  We must first be able to show them that we have learned to resolve our problems by peaceful means.
[01:05:34]  And it goes on, and at the end, he said, You know, I've not yet had the privilege of flying a UFO, nor of meeting the crew of one.
[01:05:44]  I do feel that I'm somewhat qualified to discuss them since I've also been on the fringes of the vast areas in which they travel.
[01:05:53]  And I did have occasion in 1951 to have two days of observations of many flights of UFOs of different sizes flying in fighter formation.
[01:06:05]  So this is all very interesting.
[01:06:07]  Now, here's an astronaut who's been in space, who has witnessed UFOs, who understands the culture around.
[01:06:19]  That group in the military and in the astronaut culture when they share secrets about UFOs.
[01:06:25]  And he's writing very openly in a letter to the UN about his experience.
[01:06:31]  So, you know, it seems to me that's the kind of disclosure that we have needed.
[01:06:38]  And, you know, these are the types of people who have given it to us.
[01:06:41]  And so we already have that.
[01:06:42]  We don't need the government to say yes to Gordon Cooper.
[01:06:46]  What we need is to acknowledge it ourselves on that level with somebody like Cooper.
[01:06:52]  Who, you know, was in space.
[01:06:54]  I mean, this is somebody who can speak to the issue the same way somebody who's the captain of a plane can speak about pilot issues.
[01:07:03]  I mean, this is his issue and this is where he came down on it.
[01:07:06]  Interestingly enough, the United States invaded Grenada a couple years later.
[01:07:11]  It's just an odd thing.
[01:07:12]  Apparently, yeah, isn't that?
[01:07:16]  But there is something to that because when we think about Cooper, we definitely have to look at the fact that this ambassador that he wrote to.
[01:07:26]  Had an open mind about UFOs.
[01:07:27]  So there were.
[01:07:28]  Why was he writing to the Grenada guy?
[01:07:32]  Well, apparently he had the impression that this guy would be open because of things that he heard about it.
[01:07:39]  But it is on record.
[01:07:40]  So there we have it.
[01:07:43]  But I think it tells us that, you know, it's more about what we bring to the table on these things.
[01:07:49]  And by the way, when I was doing research around this, I kept coming up against people who would say things like, Oh, we need disclosure.
[01:08:02]  And I would say, You mean UFO disclosure?
[01:08:07]  And they would say, Well, yeah, I guess.
[01:08:12]  It's like they don't even know what disclosure means.
[01:08:14]  It's this weird meme that's out there, and people are like, Oh, God, I just want to wake up and have disclosure.
[01:08:20]  And it's like the UFO part is even separating from it.
[01:08:23]  That would be when everybody becomes telepathic.
[01:08:27]  Well, perfect disclosure, right?
[01:08:29]  So, what does it even mean?
[01:08:31]  You've got something which is.
[01:08:34]  Basically, you know, we have levels of disclosure.
[01:08:38]  So you could be disclosing free energy, you could be disclosing that there are UFOs, you know, but the way it's been.
[01:08:44]  9 11.
[01:08:44]  I mean, the truth is basically from 9 11.
[01:08:48]  Exactly.
[01:08:48]  I mean, I guess what's become unmasked is that more and more people understand we know that we live in a national security state.
[01:08:56]  That started in 1947 with the National Security Act.
[01:09:00]  Yeah.
[01:09:00]  Where we really began living in a very formal era of secrecy.
[01:09:05]  And before that, there had been secrets in secret societies, secrets kept by the Vatican or whatever, and other groups.
[01:09:17]  And that's where I see the architecture of secrecy is pretty much split down the middle between that which is trying to corner information that maintains their power and control.
[01:09:36]  And that's what Edgar Mitchell said about the UFO phenomenon.
[01:09:39]  That it's not being disclosed for reasons of power and control.
[01:09:43]  And then the other side of it is liability.
[01:09:47]  Right, so just open that up a little bit.
[01:09:49]  Well, is people being liable for, for example, in Fukushima, it was a plant that was built by GE, basically, and so there's all kinds of radiation coming out of that place, and not just the Japanese government, but GE, it's in their interest to keep a lid on.
[01:10:14]  What's really happening with Fukushima?
[01:10:16]  Right, right.
[01:10:17]  That's a liability.
[01:10:18]  That's a secrecy, an architecture of secrecy that's rooted in liability rather than in maintaining power and control.
[01:10:26]  A lot of it.
[01:10:27]  I would say that at least 40% of the stuff that I write day in and day out is dealing with forbidden knowledge, secret type stuff.
[01:10:38]  And I would say that a huge amount of it is liability oriented.
[01:10:41]  Isn't that the name of your site?
[01:10:44]  It's forbiddenknowledgetv.net.
[01:10:47]  This is very interesting, though, because, for example, chemtrails, right?
[01:10:52]  So, if you're living on the West Coast in particular, you're very aware of these things.
[01:10:59]  It's just part of your everyday life.
[01:11:01]  Up here, you're aware of it where I am in Cambridge, but it's not as prevalent, I would say.
[01:11:07]  I think the wind is too turbulent up here.
[01:11:10]  That's what it is.
[01:11:11]  That's what it is.
[01:11:12]  Must be.
[01:11:12]  Yeah, I've heard that too.
[01:11:14]  But this is what's interesting about it that brings in your liability thing, because I'm going to keep it secret in case it backfires.
[01:11:21]  What if there are health concerns?
[01:11:23]  What if there's health fallout?
[01:11:24]  Then we have a half a million lawsuits against the government.
[01:11:27]  That's the end of the show, right?
[01:11:30]  So I have motivation to keep secrecy there.
[01:11:32]  UFOs, government secrecy around it is incredible.
[01:11:38]  I mean, so we've run into this period of time when UFO secrecy, we've learned, is a higher secret than the atom bomb was.
[01:11:47]  So you're not going to crack that kind of secrecy.
[01:11:49]  And whenever we get around it, weird things happen.
[01:11:51]  That's where the whole men in black thing comes from.
[01:11:54]  And certainly, There is the issue of the off world civilizations visiting also not wanting to disclose their presence.
[01:12:06]  There's a little bit of that in there too.
[01:12:08]  So we have an interesting picture there.
[01:12:10]  So disclosure is a much bigger thing than this just catchphrase meme.
[01:12:15]  Just like the secret space program is kind of a ridiculous term at this point, it's a gigantic architecture we're talking about.
[01:12:22]  We're talking about a gigantic space economy, and it's a kind of space economy that includes things like space tourism and space mining.
[01:12:31]  And, you know, so we're building an entire infrastructure.
[01:12:35]  And as you know from all the work that I've done talking to people like Eleanor Freeland about the space fence, well, Lockheed Martin finally comes out and says, this is what our space fence looks like.
[01:12:46]  And guess what?
[01:12:47]  It looks like a gigantic fence around the Earth.
[01:12:50]  So some of these, you know, things that fall into conspiracy five years ago just become acknowledged.
[01:12:57]  And hey, you know, hopefully nobody's paying too much attention.
[01:13:00]  One thing I think is kind of fascinating, I wanted to bring up.
[01:13:04]  Along this line, is this.
[01:13:07]  This is very interesting.
[01:13:09]  This is a story in the Smithsonian.
[01:13:13]  And the headline, I'll read it here it's Reagan and Gorbachev agreed to pause the Cold War in case of an alien invasion.
[01:13:19]  I've showed this video of Gorbachev talking to this group, this New York Press Club, and all the major political forces are there, like Henry Kissinger, and Charlie Rose is interviewing him, and George Shultz is there, and they kind of want to go over the Cold War stuff and be like, how did you avoid a nuclear war?
[01:13:38]  And we've heard many of these details before.
[01:13:40]  In the middle of it, Gorbachev stops and he says, You know what happened when we went to Reykjavik and did the summit with Reagan, don't you?
[01:13:47]  He said, Reagan came up to me the only time we were alone, basically looked in my eyes like this and said, Will you help us in the event of an alien invasion?
[01:13:58]  And he was dead serious.
[01:14:00]  And that Gorbachev said yes.
[01:14:03]  And Reagan said, good, we'll help you too.
[01:14:06]  So, this little interesting twist left everyone in the room with their jaws dropping.
[01:14:11]  It was just this phenomenal piece of information.
[01:14:14]  And this can't be disputed because it's on video.
[01:14:16]  I've actually shown the video in a film, an episode I have called SSP and COG, which is about the secret space program and the continuity of government rules.
[01:14:26]  That governs it, and anyone who wants to see it can check it out.
[01:14:29]  But what's interesting about that to me is, you know, we kind of understand and can see through these people into the fears and the concerns that they have.
[01:14:41]  And so when we look at somebody like Reagan talking on this level with somebody like Gorbachev, it's because they're observing this phenomena.
[01:14:50]  And we have some incredible data from Norm Berggren, who was somebody who was advising scientifically the Reagan administration.
[01:14:59]  And he was saying we were observing craft that almost were as large as planets themselves.
[01:15:05]  And Catherine Austin Fitz notes in this regard that around that time, all the Iran Contra funding black budget stuff goes off the charts.
[01:15:14]  So, my point is, you know, there is this acknowledgement out there that this happened because Gorbachev went on the record.
[01:15:24]  So, what do we do with it when we get the information?
[01:15:26]  I mean, there it is Gorbachev saying, Reagan asked me to help in the event of an alien invasion.
[01:15:32]  You know, that's pretty much high level acknowledgement there.
[01:15:35]  Gorbachev just gave you disclosure on that front.
[01:15:39]  That's what you can expect, as far as that's about as good as you're going to get from the government on that.
[01:15:44]  So, isn't that, you know, what do we do with that information?
[01:15:48]  And the media, they couldn't even help this from getting out because by the time Gorbachev said it, it was too late.
[01:15:55]  I think it's awesome.
[01:15:56]  Yeah, apparently that story seems to be true.
[01:16:00]  You know, we see another aspect of it in the crazy, in the Bud Hopkins witnessed.
[01:16:05]  Story with Linda Cortile and the UFO that everybody saw, which was, according to Stephen Greer, a complete fake holographic mind control project that was engineered to stop disclosure.
[01:16:24]  That's what that whole event was about.
[01:16:26]  It was to freak people out and to stop it from happening, to stop it in its tracks, because the ambassador to the UN, Paris de Cuellar, was on his way to like a midnight meeting.
[01:16:38]  To talk about disclosure, and then this happened, and that made everybody freak out and put the kibosh on that whole idea.
[01:16:45]  Interesting.
[01:16:48]  Of course, somebody like Grayer will always say there's some holographic element.
[01:16:53]  It's hard to prove that aspect of it, but the fact that everyone saw it, I think we can prove that.
[01:16:59]  It is interesting, though, because that's a pretty high level thing right there, that event that happened.
[01:17:06]  So, what is it, in fact, that people are looking for?
[01:17:09]  Take the story that you told about the Phoenix Lights, Kurt Russell.
[01:17:12]  Can you just kind of remind me on that again?
[01:17:14]  Well, he's a pilot and he was flying a friend of his to Phoenix from Los Angeles, which, as the crow flies, as a pilot, it's not very far.
[01:17:24]  And so he was just dropping off a friend in Phoenix.
[01:17:27]  And as they were approaching the airport, he saw, I think he reported five lights.
[01:17:33]  And he was just a civilian pilot and he reported five lights that were odd.
[01:17:40]  And he didn't think about it again.
[01:17:41]  He landed with that incident and flew back, turned around and flew back to Los Angeles.
[01:17:46]  But years later, he was with Goldie on the sofa watching some show, and they were talking about the Phoenix Lights.
[01:17:53]  A civilian aviator had phoned in a report about five lights, and he realized that was me.

=== Civilian Pilot UFO Sighting (07:16) ===

[01:17:59]  Right.
[01:18:01]  There's always been that story out there about somebody.
[01:18:04]  Right.
[01:18:05]  It's amazing.
[01:18:06]  So that didn't come out until he was stumping for a movie just a couple of months ago over the summer.
[01:18:11]  So that was interesting.
[01:18:12]  Fascinating.
[01:18:13]  You know, what it tells me is look, we have their celebrity.
[01:18:16]  Here we go.
[01:18:17]  Major actor, right?
[01:18:18]  The president.
[01:18:20]  The former Soviet premier, and Gordon Cooper, former Gemini famous astronaut, and Edgar Mitchell, who was probably one of the greatest astronauts of all time.
[01:18:34]  So they've all, you know, stepped up on it.
[01:18:36]  So even Jimmy Carter, former president, there's another former president who, you know, actually reported seeing UFOs.
[01:18:45]  So, you know, can we take a look at that and say, well, that is, you know, it already is.
[01:18:51]  So now what about the citizen level?
[01:18:53]  What about the Personal level, like Gigi was talking about, and you know, Gigi, you were saying people in your family would say, Well, you'd be crazy to believe in ETs or anything along that line.
[01:19:05]  Yeah, I think that all of these little things will happen and they exist to invite us to ask questions and to invite us to go inward.
[01:19:16]  I work with people all the time who have had some phenomenal ET experiences people who are nurses, teachers.
[01:19:26]  Company owners, just it's happening all the time, actually.
[01:19:33]  And I don't really think that we necessarily need external disclosure.
[01:19:39]  It's happening.
[01:19:39]  A lot of people have had experiences, but they forget and their brain locks them away from experiencing it because it's too radical, it's too weird.
[01:19:49]  So the joke is that it's happening to probably everybody to a certain degree, but we're not remembering it.
[01:19:58]  And all of these.
[01:20:00]  Experiences, the Phoenix lights, and all these things just chipping away.
[01:20:05]  Hey, we're here, or some of them are probably military or not genuinely, probably has a similar effect on our consciousness anyway.
[01:20:13]  But it's already happened.
[01:20:15]  Disclosure is an inside job, it always has been.
[01:20:17]  And I think a lot of the stuff on the external is a distraction.
[01:20:20]  And I find it fascinating, absolutely.
[01:20:23]  But I think that the experiences that people have had and that I've had and that I know.
[01:20:30]  My colleagues have had that do this kind of work as well.
[01:20:34]  They're phenomenal.
[01:20:36]  And they're so rich in information.
[01:20:38]  Whereas I feel like with the government stuff, we're constantly knocking on a door to get crumbs or something when there's actually, it's already happening.
[01:20:48]  Do you think it's that's a kind of a state of mind there that we need something that we're not getting from the government as if you're asking your dad for the car keys or something?
[01:21:00]  Yeah.
[01:21:01]  And I think that it's this.
[01:21:03]  We were talking about like the Kali Yuga, and a part of that is this obsession with the material side of life.
[01:21:12]  What can I have?
[01:21:13]  What can I get?
[01:21:13]  Because indulgent, it's all about the external.
[01:21:16]  And I think that that's kind of what's happening with the UFO scene where we're really focusing on the external.
[01:21:21]  Like, please show me the UFO files and give them to me.
[01:21:26]  And it's like, what if we just had a meditation practice, ate healthy, went outside, meditated?
[01:21:35]  I bet you would be starting to see lights in your own backyard.
[01:21:39]  That's the reality.
[01:21:40]  And lots of people have done that and have had incredible experiences in meditation in higher realms with ET beings.
[01:21:47]  And there's so much information there that, quite frankly, the government's not going to be able to get you because they don't even know what's going on.
[01:21:54]  Right.
[01:21:55]  They just don't know.
[01:21:56]  They know less than probably, it's so compartmentalized, they probably don't even really know at this point either.
[01:22:05]  Wow, fascinating.
[01:22:06]  Absolutely fascinating.
[01:22:09]  Well, just a quick question on that.
[01:22:11]  How does acknowledging this kind of ET reality change your everyday life, the way you think about things generally?
[01:22:22]  He changes everything.
[01:22:23]  I think that you begin.
[01:22:27]  One thing that when you're starting to interact with ETs telepathically, or you're just communicating with a higher aspect of yourself that is ET, you start to realize the human potential.
[01:22:38]  And you start to realize what you can do.
[01:22:40]  If this being's telepathic, if this is going on, if they have these kind of crafts, if they can heal themselves with light, if they live symbiotically on their planet without needing to pollute it and do all this terrible stuff, we start to realize our own potential.
[01:22:52]  We become incredibly inspired.
[01:22:55]  And also, with that connection, you get to know what your individual life purpose is, which is so important.
[01:23:02]  So many people go to nine to five jobs, or there's nothing wrong with that.
[01:23:05]  There's nothing wrong with that.
[01:23:07]  More like jobs that they don't like that are very structured.
[01:23:11]  And it's not their purpose in life.
[01:23:14]  And that keeps them more and more disconnected and more and more asleep.
[01:23:18]  And so, when you start to connect with these higher aspects of yourself, you remember who you are and you start having a completely different relationship with people.
[01:23:26]  With the cosmos, with the planet, it just changes who you are.
[01:23:30]  And it's weird that it involves ETs because that's uncomfortable.
[01:23:34]  What we're really looking at is ourselves, ourselves in different timelines.
[01:23:41]  We're looking at ourselves in different bodies and different expressions.
[01:23:45]  It's so much more than just an ET, it is consciousness.
[01:23:49]  And that's why it's so life changing.
[01:23:52]  Oh, it's fascinating.
[01:23:53]  It's absolutely fascinating.
[01:23:55]  And I think it is really just in terms of.
[01:23:59]  Your regular experience, it has to enlarge your entire worldview.
[01:24:04]  Oh, I mean, okay, like if I go back to before I had my experiences, I was like, ooh, I think I'll just stay working in fashion or I think I'll just keep doing this.
[01:24:18]  And then you have that experience and you're like, oh, nope, I'm going to make YouTube videos and look like a crazy person.
[01:24:24]  That's what I'm going to do.
[01:24:27]  So your life path, I think, can totally change.
[01:24:31]  And I think that if everybody started to get in there, I think we'd see the planet change in ways that we're really looking for.
[01:24:39]  Politically, everything.
[01:24:43]  It is such an important realization.
[01:24:46]  Well, those videos, let me tell you something if it's a crazy person making them, it's great stuff.
[01:24:52]  I recommend everybody check it out because it's one thing you get an idea, basically, of the kind of work that you do, but it is very powerful stuff.
[01:25:01]  In the work that I do, I listen and watch a lot of different material.
[01:25:05]  And your stuff is very original, and you're coming from such an interesting place with it.
[01:25:11]  So, I know that we're going to hear a lot more from you and what you're doing.

=== Star Wars And Missing Time (05:53) ===

[01:25:15]  And, you know, people that are watching your stuff, your fans are very enthusiastic.
[01:25:21]  They love the work you're doing.
[01:25:22]  Yeah, I have the greatest people.
[01:25:25]  If anyone's watching, I love you.
[01:25:27]  Hi.
[01:25:27]  Hello.
[01:25:29]  No, I really am so lucky.
[01:25:31]  I have the best people that support me, and I love them.
[01:25:35]  No question.
[01:25:36]  No question.
[01:25:37]  Alexandra, you saw a UFO in New York.
[01:25:41]  I've seen UFOs in New York at least five times.
[01:25:44]  I've seen them.
[01:25:47]  On three different continents.
[01:25:49]  Wow.
[01:25:50]  I've had like almost 30 sightings.
[01:25:53]  Did you get anything?
[01:25:55]  Did you get any, like when you saw it, did you get a feeling or did you get like a knowing or anything like that?
[01:26:01]  Or was it just kind of a sighting?
[01:26:02]  No, there's something, unfortunately for me, it's always incredibly baffling.
[01:26:10]  Every time I see one, it's more baffling than the time before.
[01:26:15]  It's never the same looking thing, too.
[01:26:18]  Well, a few times it's been a silver ball, but.
[01:26:21]  It's always different movements, different shapes.
[01:26:25]  It's just completely baffling.
[01:26:27]  Fascinating.
[01:26:29]  And you actually try to get regressed by John Mack.
[01:26:32]  By John Mack, yeah.
[01:26:34]  Did you have missing time?
[01:26:35]  When you saw them, did you have any missing time or anything?
[01:26:37]  Well, there was one time, like this very major sighting that I had over the course of 45 minutes with my neighbor when I was living in Brazil.
[01:26:50]  There's sort of a possible evidence of missing time because it just didn't make sense that.
[01:26:55]  Her parents would be out cold at 6 p.m.
[01:26:59]  It looked like it was 3 o'clock in the morning when we went to their bedroom.
[01:27:04]  So that was strange.
[01:27:05]  That's in Brazil, right?
[01:27:07]  Yes.
[01:27:07]  And then also, we had had our eyes on this thing for 45 minutes.
[01:27:11]  We took our eyes off and we looked up and it was gone.
[01:27:15]  It had taken an hour to travel from the edge of the atmosphere down over our heads and we took our eyes off, looked up, it was gone.
[01:27:22]  So that was weird too.
[01:27:25]  Wow.
[01:27:26]  Incredible.
[01:27:29]  I think it is.
[01:27:30]  It's one of those things when you go through an experience like that, you're really getting.
[01:27:38]  Then it becomes a reality for you.
[01:27:42]  It became one where people were making fun of me or accusing me of doing drugs or something.
[01:27:46]  So I stopped talking about it.
[01:27:48]  And then many years later, I thought, I'm going to take a look at this.
[01:27:53]  And then I dove deep and suddenly I had like 40 books on the subject.
[01:27:58]  Before you know it.
[01:28:00]  Sort of like close encounters or whatever, you know, when the guy's building the mount, you know, a little bit like that character for a while.
[01:28:07]  You were in mad scientist mode with your.
[01:28:12]  That's cool.
[01:28:14]  And then I went through, I got cycled through the sort of new age bullshit machine, and I was just like, I'm out of here.
[01:28:26]  It is interesting.
[01:28:27]  It is interesting because it's hard.
[01:28:30]  It's hard to get really solid.
[01:28:32]  Good information about that type of experience.
[01:28:35]  But it is possible, I think.
[01:28:38]  There are good sources out there.
[01:28:42]  But it's interesting we're talking about cycles tonight because one of the craziest cycles that I've ever seen is around the UFO thing if you study it.
[01:28:50]  Because when you go through the 70s and you're looking at this culture that's doing close encounters, and you think that we're on the doorway of really acknowledging this and meeting this other off world civilization.
[01:29:05]  And then you get these kind of shutoff modes, you know, like we move from that into Star Wars.
[01:29:12]  And Star Wars becomes, we're going to fight them, you know, and that's maybe the military arm sort of twisting Reagan's arm and saying, those crafts are not friendly.
[01:29:22]  We need to build Star Wars, the space defense.
[01:29:26]  And that whole SDI program is kind of legendary in a way because it's a very unusual thing for him to be doing at that time because we had a treaty in 1968 that said, You can't build weapons in space, right?
[01:29:39]  That we signed on to, and you know, I just spent November going through this whole JFK connection with the UFO thing and him requesting data from the CIA that he wanted to share that data that NASA had on UFO high threat cases with the Soviet Union.
[01:29:55]  Here we have again this it's almost like this thing about the UFO is the ultimate secret, in a sense.
[01:30:04]  You know, I call it the UFO file or whatever the alien presence.
[01:30:08]  Because whenever you get around it, that deep state apparatus, whatever that thing is, kicks in and bizarre things start to happen.
[01:30:17]  You know, presidents are assassinated.
[01:30:20]  I mean, interestingly enough, if you look back to that period of Reagan doing Star Wars and Iran Contra kicking in right afterwards, it's like whenever they get around this UFO part, their careers go in the tank.
[01:30:35]  And I really think it's.
[01:30:38]  It's just a highly held secret.
[01:30:40]  And I don't think that presidents like the current president or Obama have access to that information at all.
[01:30:48]  I think they all lost that information under Bush.
[01:30:55]  And one thing that's interesting about that, Alexandra, is I want you to reveal before we're going to, if you guys can stick around, we're just going to take a few questions.
[01:31:03]  But can you reveal your Rumsfeld story?

=== Hall Records And The Sphinx (07:48) ===

[01:31:09]  Oh, well, Rumsfeld was my stepfather's boss for about a decade, I think, at Searle Pharmaceuticals, which was purchased by Monsanto.
[01:31:19]  And he gave, that's why we were living in Brazil.
[01:31:21]  My stepfather was working for Searle in Brazil and hired by Don Rumsfeld.
[01:31:26]  And so he came down, he wanted to see how my stepfather's accommodations were and how he was doing.
[01:31:34]  He came down straight off the plane.
[01:31:37]  My stepfather had set up this whole dog and pony show, like, Having all his employees have presentations ready to show him, but the only thing he wanted to see were the company's books.
[01:31:51]  And when my stepfather wanted to take him out to lunch, he said, No, order it in.
[01:31:54]  And he was just looking at the spreadsheets and everything.
[01:31:57]  And then he said, Okay, now I want to see where you live.
[01:32:01]  And so I got home, and there they were.
[01:32:05]  And I was like, I knew him.
[01:32:06]  I knew he was the guy who gave my stepfather a job.
[01:32:09]  And I, what was it?
[01:32:12]  I got into, like, I was just getting jocular, I guess, with him.
[01:32:16]  What happened?
[01:32:17]  What he said is that he arrived at our house and said, Can I please have a shot of vodka?
[01:32:24]  My stepfather was like, Okay.
[01:32:26]  Gave him a vodka and he said, Can I have another one?
[01:32:29]  Gave him a second one.
[01:32:30]  He said, Could I have another one?
[01:32:32]  Gave him a third one.
[01:32:34]  And so I guess that's about when I showed up from school.
[01:32:38]  And I don't know how it was.
[01:32:40]  I guess by this time he was kind of lit.
[01:32:42]  And I don't know what.
[01:32:44]  Somehow I challenged him to a one armed.
[01:32:47]  Push up contest and I was doing one arm push ups, and he was, and I was as good as he was.
[01:32:55]  That's great, like 50 pounds.
[01:32:57]  One arm push ups with the deep state Alexandra could pull that off.
[01:33:00]  Then I said, I because I had read the People's Almanac when I was 12 from cover to cover and I remembered everything.
[01:33:07]  And so I challenged him to a bet about the easternmost territory of the United States.
[01:33:15]  And he said that place in Maine where everyone goes for sunrise on New Year's Day.
[01:33:20]  And I said, Nope.
[01:33:22]  And I said, Diego Garcia.
[01:33:24]  And we shook on it.
[01:33:26]  And I have, I'll put it up someday.
[01:33:28]  I have to scan it.
[01:33:29]  I have it here.
[01:33:30]  I haven't scanned it yet, but I found it incredibly.
[01:33:33]  It's all moldy and stuff.
[01:33:35]  It's a beautiful, moldy place.
[01:33:37]  But he didn't, both of us were wrong.
[01:33:43]  It turned out to be one of the Aleutian Islands.
[01:33:46]  It's actually over the international dateline.
[01:33:48]  It's in the Orient.
[01:33:51]  So, the best in most territory of the United States.
[01:33:56]  Wow.
[01:33:58]  Just as I can't let Alexandra get away without her Rumsfeld story, I'll tell you something interesting.
[01:34:04]  You do some very interesting videos around Atlantis.
[01:34:08]  And one of the things I cover a lot on the show is this search for the Hall of Records.
[01:34:14]  And the Hall of Records is interesting because it's supposedly a stash of records planted under the foot of the Sphinx, the Pall of the Sphinx, by the Atlanteans who were fleeing destruction.
[01:34:28]  And a few things have come up.
[01:34:30]  There have been some stories about them doing digs in that regard.
[01:34:35]  And two of the guys who were involved.
[01:34:37]  One of them was Zahi Hawass, who's a real pain in the neck archaeologist.
[01:34:42]  And whenever I say Hawass, something like that happens.
[01:34:48]  And his friend Mark Lehner.
[01:34:49]  And they were both funded by the Casey Foundation back in the day.
[01:34:54]  I won't say Hawass anymore.
[01:34:56]  Oh, I said it again.
[01:34:58]  But anyway, they were funded by the Casey Foundation back in the day.
[01:35:00]  And then they turned their backs on all that information and said, oh, that's all foolish New Age nonsense.
[01:35:06]  But nonetheless, they took the money and they got these positions.
[01:35:09]  At one point, Hawass was in the cabinet of Mubarak.
[01:35:13]  He was going to be in, and they threw out Mubarak, so they threw out Hawass, and he got hit with a bribery charge.
[01:35:18]  And over here, you know, he was the kind of the guardian of all that stuff.
[01:35:22]  Like National Geographic, it would be like Zahi Hawass, you know, he's this archaeologist who's just like Indiana Jones, and he would get all of the specials, and he always had these dry things like, Look, I found the quarters for the slaves who, you know, built the pyramids, and all this kind of claptrap.
[01:35:38]  So, my question for you is when you've done these kind of Atlantean.
[01:35:44]  And you've peered into that part of history.
[01:35:47]  What do you think about something like the story of the Hall of Records being in Egypt?
[01:35:53]  I have never done a reading or channeled anything specific with the Hall of Records.
[01:36:02]  I think that there were a lot of records, or there was a great migration from, you know, Atlantis to Egypt and Atlantis to other places as well.
[01:36:12]  It wasn't just Egypt, they went to other places.
[01:36:14]  So, I actually think there are several records and several artifacts and things that were taken to different locations.
[01:36:20]  What I sometimes play with with the hall, the closest that I can get to that, because I know that Agnitha Pa, the Sphinx, everyone connects with that, but I kind of think that what if the Hall of Records is a metaphor for our memories?
[01:36:37]  That if a lot of human beings have had or can connect in with their past lives in Egypt, or that it's almost like a beacon or a place that we can connect with to remember who we are.
[01:36:53]  I don't know if that's making sense, but I kind of take it as more of a metaphor, as a place to begin searching or a place to begin connecting to, that it will set up a chain of events inside.
[01:37:09]  For many people, it will, I believe.
[01:37:12]  So many people, as children, they start drawing these pyramids out of nowhere.
[01:37:19]  They have these memories of Egypt, and it seems to be one of those places where very significant things happen.
[01:37:28]  So I think it has importance on a metaphorical level.
[01:37:31]  As for physical records, I have never seen anything that would confirm that.
[01:37:35]  I've never really asked or looked.
[01:37:37]  I can't say against it.
[01:37:38]  But I think there's a lot of physical records that have been spread out in a lot of different places.
[01:37:44]  Does the idea of having been in Egypt appeal to you?
[01:37:48]  Do you think maybe you were there once?
[01:37:50]  Yeah, I haven't really done that.
[01:37:54]  I'm so busy reading other people that whenever it comes to my own stuff now, I'm just like, no.
[01:38:00]  Right, right.
[01:38:01]  I do feel like I probably have a connection.
[01:38:03]  I know I have a connection to Atlantis and Lemuria and perhaps Egypt as well.
[01:38:09]  I haven't felt as pulled there as other places, but it could be because I haven't really got into that myself.
[01:38:17]  Fascinating.
[01:38:18]  Wow.
[01:38:19]  You know, it's very interesting.
[01:38:21]  It really is when you get into it.
[01:38:23]  And whenever it comes up, you know, recently they found out about this shaft in the pyramid because they were using this new type of kind of x ray on it.
[01:38:32]  And, you know, you hear about these things, they pop up once in a while and they just take years to gestate.
[01:38:38]  It takes so long for us to hear anything about it.
[01:38:42]  But I do think that what we use as traditional kind of Egyptology comes from the 18th century.
[01:38:48]  I mean, it's very old.
[01:38:49]  And it's not the kind of thing that you'd expect a 21st century culture to be dealing with.
[01:38:53]  So I think that story is going to be rewritten drastically.

=== Sumerian History And Cuneiform (15:31) ===

[01:38:58]  So let's call in our moderator here, Yvonne.
[01:39:02]  She has some questions and then we'll wrap it up.
[01:39:05]  It's been great having everybody here.
[01:39:07]  So we'll take a few questions.
[01:39:08]  Let me see.
[01:39:10]  Yvonne, are you out there?
[01:39:16]  Alexandra, you can sing here in the interim.
[01:39:23]  She's going to be joining us.
[01:39:24]  Okay.
[01:39:25]  So, but the idea is I wanted the viewers, because I couldn't see their questions this time, and I wanted them to be able to come in.
[01:39:33]  Let's see if she's going to pop in here.
[01:39:36]  And welcome to technological, fast paced society in the 21st century.
[01:39:42]  There she is.
[01:39:43]  Oh, there she is.
[01:39:44]  Hey there.
[01:39:45]  Hello.
[01:39:46]  Good evening.
[01:39:47]  Hello, everybody.
[01:39:48]  Your voice is so deep today.
[01:39:49]  Look at that.
[01:39:51]  I've been fixing cameras and microphones, and here I am.
[01:39:56]  And then you caught me right when I was drinking some tea.
[01:39:59]  So, good evening, everyone.
[01:40:01]  How are you?
[01:40:02]  You know what's great about that is, as you know, the switcher broke down this evening.
[01:40:08]  So, I've been a high scale production team over here switching each time somebody talks when that normally happens on its own.
[01:40:14]  Oh, right, right.
[01:40:16]  And I'm texting you Hey, you're hopping up the camera.
[01:40:22]  Move over there.
[01:40:24]  I've been loving every minute of it though.
[01:40:25]  Yes.
[01:40:29]  You've been doing a fantastic job out there.
[01:40:32]  And of course, the stuff you do is Groovy Bean.
[01:40:35]  Everybody in the chat knows your stuff, but you do Dark Brew, which is an excellent show on your own.
[01:40:41]  And there's so many interesting things that are going on there.
[01:40:44]  But give me what you've been putting together out of the questions for tonight.
[01:40:49]  You bet.
[01:40:50]  And thank you for having me on.
[01:40:51]  Good evening.
[01:40:52]  And let me give a shout out to that busy chat.
[01:40:55]  Some of you are feisty, feisty this evening.
[01:40:59]  I tell you.
[01:41:00]  Okay.
[01:41:01]  Yes.
[01:41:02]  So, and I'm trying to keep an eye on that chat too.
[01:41:05]  So, let's see here.
[01:41:06]  So, Alexandra, this is from Cece Jarvis.
[01:41:10]  Please ask.
[01:41:11]  Very kind of you, Cece.
[01:41:13]  Alexandra, do you have any understanding of mass being frozen light?
[01:41:20]  Well, that's kind of a deep question.
[01:41:27]  I mean, I've kind of heard new age references to this.
[01:41:30]  No, the answer is no.
[01:41:33]  I'm really not.
[01:41:35]  You got into that thing about star water.
[01:41:37]  Earlier, yeah, that's the next level, right?
[01:41:40]  It's actual particles that create water, you know, right?
[01:41:44]  Okay, okay, yep.
[01:41:46]  Next, next one here.
[01:41:48]  That was a tough question.
[01:41:49]  I see that in the chat.
[01:41:50]  Okay, uh, Gigi, and hello, Gigi, pleasure to meet you.
[01:41:55]  Hi, hello, Gigi.
[01:41:58]  Do you know anything about Maria Orsic from the Varille Society, World War II?
[01:42:05]  And did she really do you know if she really received any communications from the Octurians?
[01:42:13]  I believe I'm not familiar with Orsic channeling the Arcturians.
[01:42:19]  I believe that she did Aldebaran.
[01:42:23]  That's the star system I believe she connected with.
[01:42:26]  I do know who she is and her crew of ladies that would channel for Hitler.
[01:42:31]  I believe that they felt like they were doing something good, but it was manipulated.
[01:42:38]  I don't know actually too much about Maria Orsic, but I think she'd be fascinating to.
[01:42:44]  Look into.
[01:42:46]  No question.
[01:42:47]  No question.
[01:42:47]  We know the Nazis were deep, deep, deep on another level, esoterica.
[01:42:54]  They were into some cosmic things.
[01:42:57]  No question.
[01:42:59]  All right.
[01:43:00]  Another question.
[01:43:01]  Just making sure I didn't know if anybody else was going to comment there.
[01:43:04]  Oh, yeah.
[01:43:05]  Before I jump in.
[01:43:06]  Okay.
[01:43:07]  This is for how did Gigi and Alexandra balance the energetic backlash from putting information out there?
[01:43:18]  Constantly being as a sensitive, so as an empath and as sensitive people that I think we all seem to be.
[01:43:26]  So, how do you balance that energetic backlash?
[01:43:30]  I do it not very well, frankly.
[01:43:33]  You know, I've started out very successful in making a lot of money doing this publishing, and basically, I've had many very naked attempts to destroy my business.
[01:43:46]  There's really no other way to put it, and it's a drag.
[01:43:50]  I don't know how else to say it.
[01:43:54]  It's a challenge.
[01:43:55]  There's no doubt about it.
[01:43:56]  Chi Chi, what do you think?
[01:43:57]  Yeah, well, there definitely is a point where you have to take care of yourself.
[01:44:05]  If you think for one second that you're going to be putting yourself out into the world and not taking care of yourself, you're crazy.
[01:44:13]  It will ruin you.
[01:44:14]  You have to sleep.
[01:44:15]  You have to drink water.
[01:44:16]  You have to exercise.
[01:44:18]  You have to do those things.
[01:44:19]  And when you miss and you stop doing one of those things and you say, oh, I don't need to take care of myself anymore, you will lose your balance.
[01:44:25]  So, I think that when you're in the public eye or you're doing something controversial or you're putting yourself out there, I think that you have to take care of yourself.
[01:44:34]  And it's almost like when you don't, you can start to feel, you can start getting in your own mind about things, and then it's even more augmented.
[01:44:43]  So, for me, it's remembering to take care of yourself.
[01:44:48]  Absolutely.
[01:44:50]  Beautiful.
[01:44:52]  Inner work.
[01:44:52]  Inner work.
[01:44:54]  Yep.
[01:44:55]  Okay, from Nephilim Slayer Ask Gigi, please.
[01:45:00]  If and when disclosure happens, which alien race would be the most reliable in what information they communicate to us?
[01:45:10]  Well, I think that there are already ET beings walking among us.
[01:45:17]  I already think there are hybrids here.
[01:45:19]  I think if there was a disclosure, I think it would be hybrid people, and I think they'd look very similar to us.
[01:45:26]  I don't think they're going to be beings that look really different.
[01:45:29]  I think that it's going to be intertwined with our history.
[01:45:34]  And then that's more of the public communal aspect.
[01:45:40]  But then remember that everybody has their own connection to the cosmos.
[01:45:44]  That's even more important than anything collective.
[01:45:46]  Right now, we're really in an individual disclosure.
[01:45:50]  And I want to keep bringing it back to the inner process of disclosure because you, everybody, has a different mixture of cosmic heritage and energy through your soul, even through your physical DNA.
[01:46:03]  You want to make connection with that first.
[01:46:06]  Whatever that is for you.
[01:46:08]  Some of these races are known.
[01:46:09]  We could name them off Pleiadian, Arthurian, Syrian.
[01:46:12]  That's all there.
[01:46:13]  But then some of them are not so well known that are still important to you.
[01:46:17]  You want to figure out your makeup first.
[01:46:20]  And then from there, what will happen is externally, there will be things coming forward.
[01:46:27]  Small groups at first and then getting larger and larger.
[01:46:31]  But it really is more of an internal process.
[01:46:33]  That's what I would say.
[01:46:35]  Absolutely.
[01:46:39]  Some more questions.
[01:46:39]  Is that okay?
[01:46:41]  Let's take one more.
[01:46:43]  One more.
[01:46:44]  Find the really golden nuggets.
[01:46:48]  Chat is busy tonight.
[01:46:50]  Let's see.
[01:46:51]  Okay.
[01:46:51]  Does that sound good?
[01:46:53]  Two final questions.
[01:46:54]  Now we're out.
[01:46:55]  What's that?
[01:46:55]  Okay.
[01:46:56]  Are we going down the same path as Atlantis?
[01:47:00]  Are we not using technology for positive instead of weapons of mass destruction and anything that is harming society?
[01:47:09]  Daniel?
[01:47:13]  Well, I would answer this with the Casey and the Steiner work around people who are reincarnating now, and they are all supposed to be from that period when there was the Atlantis destruction.
[01:47:24]  So it seems to me a natural that people who are looking at this saying, hmm, I have seen this movie before, it looks familiar, something's going on here.
[01:47:33]  There's one group that's running over the cliff and taking everybody else with it, and there's a lot of people running with them, and there are these other voices that are saying, not so fast.
[01:47:44]  We don't want to run into our own destruction.
[01:47:46]  So there's no question, you know, the parallels are dramatic when you go into the story.
[01:47:51]  And of course, Plato's version of the story is a great, you know, aspect.
[01:47:57]  But when you go really deep on the esoteric side and you look at some of those sources, and, you know, I always say this about the Casey version of Atlantis.
[01:48:06]  The Casey work and the people who put it out, they had kind of a line to, Which was, don't freak the world out about Edgar Cayce and what he said.
[01:48:19]  The Casey readings are so edgy when it comes to Atlantis that he talks about the Atlanteans projecting themselves through mountains.
[01:48:29]  He talks about them using the technology to communicate with spiritual forces.
[01:48:34]  So his version of Atlantis is incredibly high tech, and he's writing about this in 1920.
[01:48:42]  He's talking about television and all the different things that they had.
[01:48:48]  So when you think of it that way, it's very edgy stuff.
[01:48:51]  We actually don't even know unless you really go into those records with a certain mindset.
[01:48:57]  You know, I even see a whole cloning thing in the Casey records about Atlantis.
[01:49:02]  So they were very advanced on all these different levels.
[01:49:05]  So if they are reincarnating now, if we are part of that wave, and I definitely think that that's true, then that whole Atlantis thing has to come up to this kind of crescendo once again.
[01:49:19]  And I think we're building up toward it.
[01:49:22]  The idea is to make the right decision this time, but it's not guaranteed.
[01:49:29]  I agree.
[01:49:30]  That was a good one.
[01:49:30]  That was a good one.
[01:49:31]  Yeah.
[01:49:32]  Final question.
[01:49:33]  Oh, goodness.
[01:49:34]  Okay.
[01:49:34]  Okay.
[01:49:34]  This one's interesting.
[01:49:35]  I thought, and this is by Terry.
[01:49:39]  Terry is saying Stitching thoroughly debunked Joe Nolan.
[01:49:43]  What discrepancies have you uncovered while doing your own translations of the original Sumerian tablets?
[01:49:52]  Is this for me?
[01:49:54]  Yes, we know that you're deep into your own Sumerian.
[01:49:56]  Well, you know, when I got my degree in ancient language, I have not read the Sumerian tablets, and I don't feel like I want to because I think that the Sumerian tablets only cover a very small portion.
[01:50:13]  I think we need to go back further, and I think we need to see the bigger picture.
[01:50:18]  And I think we need to let go of artifacts determining who we are and where we're going.
[01:50:25]  And I think we need to basically get to a different state of being where we use our full mind, which is a I'm trying not to be too new age, but it's kind of like claircognizance, where you just use your own consciousness to basically time travel and go back and see these different things yourself and what they mean to you.
[01:50:45]  So we're really kind of, and I think Daniel and I have talked about this as well how the artifacts change or things are discovered after the fact, and that time is not linear but very flexible.
[01:50:59]  We really need to change our idea about time, actually.
[01:51:02]  And so, this is such a big thing, it's more than who are the Anunnaki, it's how are we viewing time and what's our history?
[01:51:09]  We need to get out of this locked thing.
[01:51:12]  And that's how we're going to get through this.
[01:51:16]  That was not too new age, I can tell you right now.
[01:51:20]  You scored on that one.
[01:51:24]  Alexandra Sitchin, I want to say this about Sitchin.
[01:51:27]  He certainly brought a lot to the table, but it's not the whole picture.
[01:51:35]  I think that.
[01:51:36]  I'm not mad at him.
[01:51:39]  Like, I'm not mad at Sitchin, but I just think that there are some issues there.
[01:51:45]  And I think we need to go beyond it and go to the questions that I kind of just went into.
[01:51:49]  But I'm not, it's not like I think that what he's done is useless and I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way.
[01:51:55]  Just more, just further.
[01:51:57]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:51:58]  Absolutely.
[01:52:00]  No, I think that you lay that out in your video about it.
[01:52:04]  You walk a really good balanced line on it.
[01:52:08]  Alexandra, you said something to me earlier about Sitchin and somebody else who was interpreting the same tablets.
[01:52:14]  Well, I think that the.
[01:52:17]  I was lucky enough to study Sumerian history in fourth grade in my school, and we read the Epic of Gilgamesh when I was eight years old.
[01:52:27]  And we had, I lived in Chicago back then, and there's the Oriental Institute that has a lot of Sumerian artifacts, so we got to see this stuff.
[01:52:36]  So it was really kind of amazing, and I'd bring in you like talking about JFK, because he was a history major at Brown where I went to college with him.
[01:52:46]  Years later, like 10 years after we had been in college, I said, You know, I was talking about the Sumerians.
[01:52:51]  I was reading about Sitchin back then.
[01:52:54]  I could never get myself to read Sitchin.
[01:52:56]  I found his stuff illegible.
[01:52:58]  I bought some of his books and I just couldn't get through them.
[01:53:02]  But I read, you know, sort of about what he was saying, and I read stuff by R.A. Boulet, who was another government cryptologist, another rare person who could actually read Sumerian cuneiform script.
[01:53:16]  And I remember telling John Kennedy about, yeah, I'm reading this Sumerian stuff, and he's like, What's Sumeria?
[01:53:22]  I just thought you were a history major.
[01:53:24]  How can you not know?
[01:53:25]  Oh, my goodness.
[01:53:27]  Yeah.
[01:53:28]  So that was funny.
[01:53:29]  He's busy having a good time.
[01:53:30]  Come on, you can't blame him.
[01:53:31]  Yeah.
[01:53:33]  So, what I, you know, the stuff that I find the most fascinating about what Sitchin says and what the Sumerian records reveal is that it's basically a lot of the first instances.
[01:53:48]  As far as history goes, of legends and stories that we then read about in subsequent traditions that came later, such as the Bible.
[01:53:59]  Right.
[01:54:00]  You know, so you read about the flood and things like this, and, you know, like the Epic of Guilt, you know, you read like about Noah characters that appear in the Bible, but, you know, a couple of thousand years before.
[01:54:17]  So it seems like some of the legends that are in the Bible are derivative.
[01:54:22]  Of legends that came or oral histories that came from Sumeria.
[01:54:27]  So that is fascinating.

=== Ancient Legends Before The Bible (02:16) ===

[01:54:29]  A much older, much older period, yeah.
[01:54:31]  Right, and not only that, I've heard things like even Chinese characters, some of them they claim seem to be descended from cuneiform.
[01:54:42]  Absolutely fascinating.
[01:54:43]  They're still the same, that they're almost the same as today.
[01:54:47]  The characters are almost the same as the cuneiform pictogram.
[01:54:50]  So that's very interesting.
[01:54:52]  Unbelievable.
[01:54:54]  Everybody, you did a fantastic job tonight.
[01:54:57]  Thank you so much.
[01:54:58]  Wow, incredible session.
[01:55:00]  And we went a half hour longer than we were going to.
[01:55:02]  And every, I could go another hour.
[01:55:05]  But you guys did fantastic.
[01:55:07]  And this is the kind of information, you know, it's the kind of stuff I enjoy.
[01:55:11]  So that's what's good about doing the work that I do.
[01:55:14]  ggyoung.com.
[01:55:16]  That's where you can find Gigi's work.
[01:55:18]  And it's the kind of thing, really, where I think, you know, Gigi's videos.
[01:55:26]  Are something that's out there and available for free.
[01:55:30]  And it's remarkable because it's a great resource of information and ideas.
[01:55:34]  And I highly recommend everyone check it out.
[01:55:36]  Just very, very fascinating work.
[01:55:39]  And Alexandra, of course, for bidknowledgetv.net, fantastic.
[01:55:43]  And, you know, that's what I read when I'm checking things out.
[01:55:47]  And it's great to see you.
[01:55:50]  Yvonne, thank you so much.
[01:55:51]  You did a fantastic job tonight.
[01:55:53]  And thank you for everyone in chat.
[01:55:55]  The questions were exceptional, I have to say.
[01:55:57]  Yeah.
[01:55:58]  And we're going to say goodbye now, but we'll be back again later this week.
[01:56:04]  Is my interview with Catherine Austin Fitz?
[01:56:08]  And next week we'll be back live.
[01:56:10]  Of course, we just finished the HBO special, and you can find that if you go to darkjournalist.com.
[01:56:16]  It's me commenting on the JFK files on the 54th anniversary and the UFO secrecy factor.
[01:56:24]  It was very interesting, actually.
[01:56:25]  I give those guys at HBO Vice News really good props for doing a great job.
[01:56:32]  And so thanks, everyone, for joining us.
[01:56:35]  And thanks to Alexandra, Gigi, and Yvonne.
[01:56:39]  We will see you all very soon.
[01:56:42]  Have a good evening.
[01:56:43]  Thank you.
[01:56:43]  Bye, everyone.
[01:56:43]  Bye, Gigi.
[01:56:44]  Bye.
[01:56:45]  Thank you.
[01:56:45]  Thank you.