Sheriff Mack, the first to beat the federal government at the Supreme Court on Second and Tenth Amendment grounds, details how his legal challenges halted five Brady bills. He recounts Las Vegas Sheriff Kevin McMahill's defiance against judges regarding a repeat offender under electronic monitoring and critiques White House security lapses during the Cole Allen dinner. The discussion spans TSA ineffectiveness, JFK conspiracy theories including the missing brain, and alleged DEA corruption in Colombia, ultimately promoting the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association as a vital local defense against federal overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
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Vegas Immigration Arrests00:11:32
All right, joining us now is Sheriff Richard Mack, and he has a constitutional sheriffs and peace officers association.
That is CSPOA.org.
And we've got a lot of things to talk about.
There's a very interesting case back and forth because we always see all this catch and release stuff that's happening with repeat offenders.
And there's a case that is happening in Vegas, which I think is very fascinating.
We're also going to talk to Sheriff Mack about the shooting and what happened to the security at the White House.
Correspondence dinner that just happened over the weekend.
So joining us now is Sheriff Mack.
Thank you for joining us, sir.
Well, thanks for having me, David.
It's always a pleasure to be with you.
You and I go way back.
Oh, yeah, we do.
But you know, in all that time, I never realized until I was doing research for this interview that when you won in the Supreme Court, and of course, Sheriff Mack was the first sheriff to challenge a law to the Supreme Court because he was fighting for both the 10th Amendment as well as the Second Amendment.
He won.
And I never realized before that there was a series of five Brady bills.
They were going to release them once a year, like a sequel, a bad sequel.
And so basically, you stop the empire from striking back.
They put those on hold, I guess, until a better time because of the win that you had in the Supreme Court.
That's very important.
Yeah, it was amazing.
I worked closely with the NRA on this case and then also Gun Owners of America.
Gun Owners of America was actually the one that discovered that there were five Brady bills to be scheduled one year after another until the Second Amendment was completely gutted, if not completely destroyed.
Wow.
I really like Gun Owners of America.
I have a long history with Larry Pratt.
He goes back many, many years.
His son is now there now.
But they have been solid and uncompromising.
I mean, they're not willing to sign on to a bad bill just so they can say they've got a victory.
Exactly.
And you know what you're going to get.
If.
As all the gun rights organizations nationally say, that the Second Amendment is about freedom.
If it's about freedom, then don't compromise because compromise freedom is an absolute sin.
It's going the other way, it's helping the other side.
That's right.
Yeah, we never want to compromise our liberty for the promise of security because that promise is always broken.
That's what history has shown.
We have a really interesting case that's developing in Las Vegas.
You've got a guy who has.
He's 36 years old.
He's had 35 arrests.
So I looked at that.
I laughed at Sheriff Mac because I thought, well, this guy's gotten arrested every year since he was two years old.
So I guess we could say he's a career criminal.
And they're not just petty things either.
I mean, he's got manslaughter charges against him and a lot of issues like that.
And so you had a situation, and I wanted to talk about this because it raises a couple of interesting points.
We see a lot of times we see arrests for immigration, and they want to say, look, this guy's got a long rap sheet.
And he did this serious crime and that serious crime.
And I'm thinking, why is he on the streets then?
Right?
Who released this guy?
Right?
Why is he even?
I mean, you would look at this and think, well, they're going to go around the prisons and they're going to deport these people who've got this long rap sheet and it might be child rape or murder or something like that.
But they're out on the street.
And so, how does that happen?
How do you have an illegal immigrant who comes in, commits these serious crimes, and then they're turned out on the street?
Well, here's a good example of this.
And so, you've got this guy who's a repeat offender, he's got a lot of arrests.
And there is a back and forth with him over this.
It's called a justice court.
What kind of a court is that in Vegas?
Is that like a little district court or something like that?
Or justice of the peace?
What kind of court is that?
I'm pretty sure it's the same in Arizona as the Superior Court.
So I think that's it because justice court has to be a higher one up, or it's not a justice of the peace court.
That's why I was asking, is this a justice of the peace?
Just go marry somebody and leave us alone.
But he's hell bent for some reason on letting this guy out under an electronic monitoring system.
And under state law, this is not a case of a sheriff.
The sheriff got into an argument with this, or legal argument, we should say.
I mean, they didn't, they weren't yelling at each other, but he wanted this repeat offender released with electronic monitoring.
And the sheriff said, no, we've looked at it.
He's too dangerous to do this.
And actually, and then the judge got upset, threatened contempt on him, and then they appealed it to the state Supreme Court.
And it turns out that there is a law that says that the sheriff has the ability to make that determination if they think the individual is too dangerous because.
They have to administer this program.
Tell us a bit more about that, some of the details.
Well, that's Sheriff Kevin McMahill in Las Vegas.
And this is one of the greatest examples of what sheriff's offices should be nationwide, not just because of what he did here, but way back.
I don't even know when it started, but it was way back, maybe 100 years ago, that the Clark County Sheriff was in charge of Las Vegas Metro Police.
And so, Las Vegas Metro is Clark County Sheriff's Office.
And that's how it should be nationwide.
And why?
Because the sheriff is elected.
And the people must know that they can depend on local law enforcement to answer to them instead of a city council committee or the town manager.
The town manager is not the boss of the sheriff, the boss of the sheriff is we, the people, his constituents, the voters.
And so we, the people, are in charge of this government.
As Abraham Lincoln said, We, the people, are the rightful owners and masters of the courts and Congress, and not to pervert the Constitution, but to pervert those who would pervert the Constitution.
So that's our job, making sure that they're doing it right.
As far as Sheriff McMahill, I met with him a couple of years ago at his request.
We met at a funeral for another sheriff in Nevada.
And we became pretty good friends.
And I kept in touch with him.
And I told him, hey, I want to stop by and make sure that you're familiar with my Supreme Court case.
And this is it, David, as you're probably familiar with this.
I put together this pamphlet that is a review of the highlights of the case.
Every American should have this in their pocket, in their car, in their home.
Show it to your kids.
But the most important thing you could do with this is they're three for $5, okay?
They're very inexpensive.
But you should be getting dozens of these and passing them around to your city councils, your county commissioners, your county manager, your county attorney, and especially your sheriff if he doesn't already have this.
And Sheriff McMahill is a great example.
Once you show people the truth, they do something about it.
And so here, Sheriff McMahill is now having the courage and the creativity and the wherewithal to tell judges, we're not going to do this cash and release crap anymore.
With felons who have hurt other people who are going to continue their recidivism.
And this is this you asked the question, why would they do this?
A very good question to ask these judges.
Why do you put hardened criminals, career criminals, back on the streets and what McMahon told them to do more harm to the American people and to law abiding citizens?
I agree.
Yeah.
That's why I asked what kind of court is this?
Are these, is this an elected or an appointed judge?
Pretty sure it's elected.
Well, see, that's the key.
You know, when we talk about everything that's happening, and a lot of us don't like the way the country is going.
And I think the most important thing and where you're going to have the most effect is going to be at the local level.
In situations like voting for judges or voting for sheriffs or whatever, it's difficult to get information about them, however.
And so that is part of the problem.
And I got to say, I'm as guilty as anybody else.
It's hard for me to find information locally.
I can get all kinds of detailed information about what's happening locally.
Uh, nationally, globally, that type of stuff, but it's difficult to get that information locally.
Part of it is that we've really kind of lost our local reporting because of economic reasons and consolidation of media.
So there's not much reporting that's happening there, uh, but it's difficult for us to get that information.
Uh, but that's where it really makes a big difference.
Now, in this particular case, I had some other questions out there were kind of strange because, uh, this guy, even though there's this back and forth between the judge and the sheriff, apparently was able to get out, uh, on his own somehow.
Because he's been arrested again, and there's now a different judge who refuses to give him bail.
Tell us a little bit about that.
How did this guy get out?
I actually think he posted bail.
Okay.
Yeah, he posted bail, but I thought that they weren't going to let him out as long as because the judge's condition was that he put on electronic monitor.
You can't stop bail.
Oh, okay.
Bail is there, and he posts it, he's out.
Well, I looked up this thing that said that.
They got a call that somebody was going through mailboxes.
So they go out in the area and they find that he's got like a special file key to get into the mailboxes.
And they found some other things on the guy as well.
So they arrested him again.
He's got another 27 charges.
They found him with a shaved mail key, fraudulent ID, other people's credit cards, meth on him.
And when they call him, he was going through the mailboxes at an apartment complex.
Yeah, big surprise.
So now he's got another 27 charges against him.
And this judge is not giving him bail.
Wow, it only took 37 felonies.
No, and then he might be a good judge.
There are some good judges left in America, but and the statistics with what McMahon has done, he's done this to four different judges in the Las Vegas area.
It wasn't just the one judge.
He's done it to four different judges on 11 different inmates.
Why?
Because he's concerned about public safety.
And these judges, I got, you know, some reporter needs to ask these judges.
Why do you keep releasing these people, these career criminals, on law abiding citizens?
Why do you keep doing that?
We want to know.
Yeah, that was my question.
I look at this and it's like, okay, so you're a judge and you decide that you're going to put this guy on electronic release, and the sheriff comes back and says, well, wait a minute, this guy, I don't think we can handle this guy on electronic monitoring.
Wouldn't you have the humility to look at this and say, maybe I got this wrong?
Public Safety Concerns00:02:50
Let me reconsider that and take that as an opportunity so that you don't have this?
On your record, in case you let this guy go and he kills somebody.
But he didn't do that.
Instead, he fought against all of this and the guy got released anyway.
Yeah, exactly.
So I really want everyone on your program, Dave, to look at this sheriff and what he did.
Okay.
This is where the solution for America lies sheriffs doing the right thing for the right reason in defending the American people.
This is what CSPOA does.
This is why we want every one of your listeners, your supporters here on your program, Go to our website and become a part of the CSPOA.
Oh, you're not a sheriff?
Oh, you're not a deputy?
Great, because we formed this organization for you.
And that's why we have the CSPOA posse that you can become a member of.
Yeah, there's a little fee $11 a month or $8.50 a month, whatever, if you go annually or just monthly.
But, folks, this is the greatest solution since sliced bread.
And I should say, since the militia was formed.
The American people, Jefferson warned us.
That we have got to be involved.
And he said, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
Folks, we provide that opportunity to you 100% for you to be involved in the holy cause of liberty and taking back our Constitution and our Constitutional Republic.
Join us at cspoa.org.
And, you know, that's the key thing.
I mean, like I said, it's hard to get that kind of information locally as to what's happening.
Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.
Helps you to get that kind of information.
The kind of questions that you can take around as a group of you can meet with a sheriff and ask him those types of questions.
John Birch Society has got voter rolls for all the state legislators and things like that.
So there are some organizations that are focused on establishing change at the local level where you can get that kind of information.
And it's very important to work with those.
I like what you had to say about your organization here.
You said it's an organization that brings citizens, law enforcement, sheriffs, and elected officials together.
Solution oriented, taking our country back in a peaceful and effective way at the local and the state level.
That is the key because I think it's just too far gone at the federal level.
And the key thing I do too.
The federal level is so far gone that what they do is not only they're doing the wrong thing, but they're bribing people with fiat printed money to do the wrong thing at the state and local level.
Well, that's the Southern Poverty Law Center bribing people to help them.
Local Police Cooperation00:07:01
Make hate bigger and better.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Talk a little bit about what happened with the White House correspondence dinner.
And because I played a clip where there were a couple of Fox reporters who were laughing about it.
They said, Yeah, they just got a couple of small ladies over there holding the door open for people.
That's what the security is here.
They just couldn't believe it.
And of course, the guy who put the manifesto out, the alleged shooter, was mocking it as well.
What's your take on that as somebody who's run security for things like that?
Well, you know, yes, I have.
As a matter of fact, the last time I did it personally and with my sheriff's office was when Pat Buchanan came to Arizona in 1996.
And I worked with the Secret Service that was in charge of his event.
And we coordinated with them and they coordinated with us.
Maybe the current Secret Service needs to do that more with local sheriffs.
Now, look, they had local police.
Obviously, at Washington DC PD there and others.
But where did the security break down?
The minute this Cole Allen got on the train, there's no security on trains.
There's no metal detectors.
There's nobody checking luggage.
There's nobody checking what you have.
People could be going and bringing bombs on trains, and the train people wouldn't know any different.
What has to happen there is what I wish would happen at the airports that the airlines and the train companies would do their own security.
Quit waiting for the federal government to take care of your problem.
Okay.
And yeah, as a matter of fact, when they cut off the money, that's right.
When they cut off the money, there were several airports where they basically do the same TSA stuff.
And I look at it and I've said, my opinion is it's security theater because whenever they test these guys, they fail like 90% of the time.
I said, so what you take away from that is that there's not really a threat at the airports and airplanes.
And of course, we had a case that basically the TSA said that in their internal.
Uh, communications.
There was a guy who was challenging the body scanners.
And as part of his discovery, he was able to get that.
Now, of course, when they posted it on pacer.gov, which is where they put the lawsuits, they wanted to redact that, but they made a mistake and they put up the unredacted lawsuit.
And then they discovered it later in the day.
And then they put up the redacted version, took the other one down.
Uh, and we were able to get both copies of that.
And so we could see what they didn't want us to see.
And so they said in 2011, there's no threats to airports or airplanes.
And that was at the same time that they were threatening to make Texas a no fly zone.
Because they were going to stop the body pat downs of children and things like that.
So it is kind of interesting.
And when I talked about it, I said, you know, here's a situation.
It's almost like a joint session of Congress where you got the president, the vice president, and the third person in the line of secession, the speaker of the house.
They were all there in that one spot.
And yet there's no security there.
Isn't that interesting?
I was just talking about this.
Who's number four?
Is that Secretary of State?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I'd have to go back and look.
I'd have to look that up too, because I. Hey, I can't remember.
And I know I know that, but I forgot it.
Maybe Rubio was there too.
I don't know.
Well, he is Secretary of State.
Yeah, yeah.
Who knows?
Yeah, I think he's a big party.
And I don't know who the Senate majority leader is.
I don't know where he is on the list.
You would think he would be right after Johnson, but I don't think he is.
But anyway, but the other part of the security lapse is that he's allowed to check into a hotel.
And again, there's no body scanning there either.
Yeah, you know, I mentioned that because when I went to Bilderberg in Copenhagen, we knew which hotel it was going to be.
And we booked into that hotel a couple of days earlier, hoping that we could be there at the hotel where these guys are so we could get some pictures that are close up.
Turned out we didn't need to.
That year, Bilderberg, they had a hotel that was right on a main road.
And the furthest they got anybody away was across the street on a four lane road that went through there.
So we were able to see everybody that was coming and going, which was.
Really unusual for Bilderberg, but we went in the day before they were supposed to meet to get our hotel rooms, and they already had the place covered with people in uniform and uh scanners and all this other kind of stuff.
And they bum brushed us right out the door when we went in there.
And and yet, here's a situation where you got like you know the top three office holders are all going to be meeting there the next day, and this guy's allowed to stay, you know, they don't hassle him at all, yeah.
Kind of interesting, you know.
And and we were talking about this before the interview, I said, Yeah, this is the same hotel where.
Hinckley took a shot at, actually hit him, hit Reagan, John Hinckley did.
And I said, maybe what they'll do is have the next White House correspondence dinner at Dealey Plaza.
I don't know.
And James Brady, for whom the Brady bill was named, I sued and won.
And I do want to recall when I was at the U.S. Supreme Court, he was there in his wheelchair.
He took a shot to the head, and four of them were shot at that time.
A Secret Service, a police officer, Reagan, who they didn't even know was shot until he was on his way away from there in limousine.
And then James Brady got it the worst, and he was confined to a wheelchair after that, but he was still really sharp.
And I shook his hand at the hearing where we were suing his bill.
It was really his wife's bill.
He's a good man, and I've always liked him.
And I thanked him for his service to Ronald Reagan and to our country.
And he said something very gracious to me.
He said, Sheriff, I really admire you for what you've done, and you're standing for what you believe in.
And that really meant a lot to me coming from him.
Yeah, you know, it's a tragedy, but we have to look at the larger principles that are involved here.
And that's really what you were talking about.
It wasn't simply about his personal tragedy.
And so often we see that it becomes a cause celeb, you know, and it's all organized around something bad that happened to one person.
And it is not, it doesn't really undo what happened to that person to set up a really bad law that's going to cause a lot of damage.
His wife, Cerebrating, was the one that exploited him for the gun control movement.
Known as the Brady Bill, and she should have been ashamed of herself, but she wasn't.
And no, so I didn't like her at all, but I really liked James Brady.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you said when we're talking about presidential assassinations, you said you've been to Dealey Plaza twice.
Marilyn Monroe Investigation00:06:54
What was your impression of it?
I've been there as well.
The first time I went there, I have to tell you, I was with my son, and he was like 18 years old, about to graduate from high school.
And I took him through it and showed him the museum and showed him the Theory of the magic bullet and the pristine bullet and all that.
And he laughed.
He laughed.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it worked for Arlen Spectre.
I mean, they elevate him up to be a senator for life, basically.
He got paid off for putting forward the magic bullet theory.
Well, and not only that, the Warren Commission report.
If you want a good laugh, read that.
It's another laughable thing.
But the main thing that I thought when I was there, Is how spooky it was because it looked exactly like it did back in 1963 at the assassination.
It was everything the same the picket fence, the grassy knoll, the book depository, where it actually happened now, like I said, is a museum and it kind of gives the evidence of all of it.
And I thought every bit of it was like walking through history, walking through time.
And it was amazing.
The thing that we've included in my new book that's going to be out in about a week is Dorothy Kilgallen.
I'm sure you remember her.
Yeah, the name's very familiar.
What was it?
What's My Line or something?
Yeah, she was a regular on What's My Line.
Before that, she became very famous about a national, a worldwide race.
And I can't remember what they were racing for, but she was involved in this race.
And she was also a reporter.
And after she was in that race, she gained a lot of notoriety and she was invited to be on What's My Line All the Time.
Well, that was a pretty good movie.
I mean, a show, a game show on TV back in the late 50s, early 60s.
I think the host was Gary Moore.
Yeah.
And they would guess people's profession when they'd come out.
They'd ask them questions.
Yeah.
Right.
And so she took it upon herself to do an investigation on the Kennedy assassination.
And right off, I mean, right as soon as it happened, and she started and she was extremely relentless and dedicated to it.
And she was good at what she did.
And she actually got an interview with Jack Ruby, who murdered Lee Harvey Oswald.
And so she's really getting into this.
And then, of course, she ends up dying, and they don't even know how.
They said it was an accidental death, but it was exactly how Marilyn Monroe supposedly killed herself.
And we don't believe she did.
In the book, we bring out what really happened to Marilyn Monroe was murder.
And what really happened to Dorothy Kilgallen was also murder.
Because, and I'll tell you one reason why, David, you're not going to believe this.
So she has amassed all these reports and evidence.
About the so called assassination, the inside job that it was on JFK.
So she accidentally died, right?
According to police reports and what everybody said.
Then why was all her evidence missing from the scene of her death?
Wow.
Yeah.
They never found it again.
No one ever did a criminal investigation.
And, but all they said is, well, that's coincidental and weird.
All of the evidence that she had amassed and all the notes she took, reports she wrote, were all gone, missing, stolen.
Wow.
Yeah, that was obviously the murderer.
Yeah, that was obviously a seminal event for a lot of Americans changing their opinions of government.
I remember, you know, it was around Thanksgiving that we all got together with a family.
I was only eight years old, and people were watching TV live as Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
And I remember all the adults in the room were like, Okay.
I think we know what's going on here now with this not a loaned shooter scenario that's happening with that.
And that was kind of a seminal moment for me, actually, as well.
So, another thing that I brought up ever since I was at Dealey Plaza.
So, if Lee Harvey Oswald is up on the fifth floor and he's looking down, when the president's motorcade turned right on Houston and is going northbound right towards.
The book depository, straight, a perpendicular, straight line right towards Oswald, supposedly holding the gun.
Why didn't he shoot him then?
Nothing was in his way.
Clear shot, clear path.
And he has this white shirt on the president that he could have taken that shot.
Oh, no, no.
He waits for him to turn down Elm.
And now he's behind trees.
He's at a weird 45 degree angle now.
The other one was straight on.
The first shot was the easiest one and he missed the entire car.
Yeah, then when he's much further away, much farther away, and a very difficult shot, he somehow shoots him in the front part of the right side of his head.
Yeah, and he's behind him at a 45 degree angle.
The best shot he could have possibly got would have been right here on the right rear of his head.
Oh, no.
He shoots him there.
Wow, talk about magic bullets and a massive gun and a bunch of lies.
And that's what it was.
And then by the time that the body of President Kennedy was taken back to Bethesda, Maryland, at the naval base there, his brain was missing.
Why?
Where did the brain go?
And so you have to know that the brain, more than anything, more than the skull ballistics that the bullet caused of the hole in his head, and a big chunk of his.
Skull was back on the trunk, and that's what Jackie was in her fit of panic was crawling back on there to get a piece of his skull and bring it back to it.
She was trying to make him better, and of course, she was out of her head with panic.
And so, the key component here is the brain could have shown the exact trajectory of the bullet, so they had to get rid of that evidence, and they did.
FBI and DEA Hearings00:14:41
Wow, yeah, it's such a um.
It's such a horrible situation, and what it showed us about our own government is horrible as well.
As a matter of fact, I just played a clip this week of Glenn Beck talking to Kash Patel.
He says, Yeah, I've seen the Kennedy stuff and everything.
You're not even asking the right questions.
And I can't tell you what I've seen.
It's like, you know, I am so sick and tired of a government that keeps everything secret from us in the name of national security, that lies to us so obviously, and they think we don't know that they're lying.
That really has become the hallmark of our government, hasn't it?
Right.
And they did it even at 9 11.
The FBI said, well, we hurried him and got rid of all the evidence because we wanted to bring closure to this horrible, horrible situation.
We want to help heal the American people.
That's not your job.
Yeah.
Your job is to investigate.
That's right.
We'll worry about bringing closure with our clergyman.
But you're not our counselor.
You're not our family counselor.
You're not our national counselor.
And I'm just, I am.
I'm fed up with government.
That thinks they have to take care of me and help me through a hard time.
We hired you to investigate, not throw all the evidence in the bottom of the ocean.
Well, just look at what recently came out about the Epstein Ranch, the Zaro Ranch, a large ranch they had out there.
They just reopened that case because they said the FBI came in and said to the state and local investigators, we've got this, we're going to take care of this.
And then they just shut it down.
And when that came out in this recent document releases, they opened it up again.
The state legislature said they appointed, they appropriated like millions of dollars for them to do their own investigation because the FBI shut down.
And I've seen this so many times.
I saw it with Flight 800, where there was a question as to whether or not the plane was shot down accidentally as part of the naval exercises that happened.
And there'd been something that was exactly the same type of thing that happened with Iran.
And they had been conducting U.S. naval operations there, and they accidentally shot down a consumer jet.
And they compensated people in Iran for that, but they denied it here.
And you had people who had been involved as far as air traffic controllers.
They had documents.
The FBI went around to their house and confiscated the evidence and then just shut the investigation down.
And if you ask me, Dave, they're pretty close to doing the same with these 11 or 12 scientists that have been murdered and kidnapped or both.
Since 2022.
And I don't get this at all that they waited till the 11th scientist was murdered to start an investigation.
And Comer announced, oh, we better start a congressional investigation.
If I want a good investigation, that's the last place I want investigating.
Yeah, we've seen that over and over again, not with Trey Gowdy and Benghazi, and we've seen Jim Jordan do dog and bunny shows over and over again, and nothing ever comes of any of that stuff.
It's just grandstanding, is what it is.
Yeah.
And Trey Gowdy, I mean, when they discovered that back in like 2015, that DEA agents down in Colombia were having sex parties with the cartels.
And they had a big hearing about that.
Trey Gowdy, you know, he was really pointing his finger and yelling at the director of the DEA, the first female director ever.
And the only thing that happened after they found out that this really did happen, and they were taking no action, no disciplinary action on these criminals, these DEA crimes having sex parties with the cartels is about five different felonies per event.
And they were doing it for years.
And so, not only were none of them disciplined, none of them were charged criminally, and some of them got reassigned.
Oh, and then this is the really thing that will take care of it.
The female director of the FBI resigned.
I mean, of the DEA, resigned.
That's all that happened.
You can look that up, folks.
Don't believe me.
Look it up DEA sex crimes in Colombia, and you'll get all sorts of information about it.
Well, I laugh because it's just so far over the top.
It's like, it's just absurd.
It's.
It's just crazy.
Typical government doing nothing about real serious criminal activity by the people we're paying.
They're supposed to be arresting and going after the cartels.
Instead, the cartels are providing sex parties for all these DE agents every year.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, look at the fact that it's the U.S. government that created the CIA, created the crack cocaine epidemic.
And so the whole thing has not really worked out too well for us.
But, you know, talking about the Constitution, Sheriff Mac, I say this all the time.
We have two amendments in the Constitution that testify to the fact that the government doesn't have any constitutional authority to prohibit anything like that.
And so we had to have a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol.
Why did they go to all that trouble?
Well, because back at that point in time, people actually tried to stay within the Constitution.
We just don't care about that anymore.
No, no.
And obviously, they don't care about the Constitution, or there wouldn't be 20,000 gun control laws.
Mm hmm.
That obviously makes gun control against the law.
The Second Amendment makes gun control in America against the law.
That's right.
So, what does Congress do?
Form the BATF that can monitor every day, every citizen who has a gun.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
Talk about your book here.
It's called The Democrat Murder of America Demagoguery in the First Degree.
Don't you love that title?
Yeah, that's about to come out, isn't it?
Yeah, it's a great title.
Well, it should be the e book, it should be out in about a week.
Okay.
And we keep getting more we have to add to the book, like what Virginia did.
We already had Virginia on what they did in their election, electing an attorney general who supported killing his opponent and his children.
That actually happened.
But of course, he won anyway because Democrats don't care about violence.
They celebrate violence, just like they did when Charlie Kirk was murdered.
And even now, they're celebrating the recent assassination on Trump.
What are they celebrating?
Great.
Let's do more gun control.
That's all that meant to them.
Do you think that Trump will go along with that?
Because, I mean, we did see in his first administration, he had Dianne Feinstein right there next to him.
He had, what's the guy that's running for reelection as a senator in Texas?
I forget his name.
Cornyn.
Cornyn.
So the two of them are sitting on either side of him, and he's saying, Well, fortunately, there's things that I can do with a pen right here.
And it's like, No, you can't.
You can't amend the Constitution with a pen.
And, you know, so I don't know.
It seems like he's amenable to that.
What do you think?
I certainly pray that he's not.
Because gun control only affects the law abiding citizen and helps arm even better the gangs and the cartels and the bloods and the crypts and the trend de agua.
And so we've got to make sure that we understand why the founding fathers put the Second Amendment in the Constitution in the first place.
And it wasn't for duck hunting, it was to fulfill the part of the Declaration of Independence that says it is the right of the people, it is the duty of the people to throw off such government.
And establish new guards for our happiness.
No, it's gotten way off.
But to make sure that everyone gets this, you've got to be involved in the process of restoring freedom to America.
And what's going on right now is the utter destruction.
And yes, okay, are there some Republicans who are problems?
Yeah, but most of them were really acting, a lot of them are Democrats.
Who switch parties to try to control the party, the other party from within.
Yeah.
And then you have the rhinos who say they're Republicans, but they're really not.
And so it is really the Democrat Party.
And people say this uniparty.
Okay.
I get it.
There's a few things that they do similarly and agree on.
One is national debt, they both cause that.
I get that.
Yeah.
Both of them help fund Planned Parenthood.
Yeah.
Democrats, way more than the Republicans.
But yes, some Republicans did it too.
And then the utter corruption of Washington, D.C. that's both of them.
Yeah.
But again, I will still put more blame on the Democrats.
That's why, you know, I look at this and it's like we really have to do something at the state and local level.
As a matter of fact, there was something I thought was really.
That's right.
You know, it was Elon Musk who said, you got to hand it to George Soros.
He understands how to do this.
He's spending a lot of money.
On attorney general, attorneys general at the very state level, and also at the DAs and various places, putting millions of dollars in these races and getting the kind of people he wants in there so they can just turn people loose.
And he said he's getting so much more bang for the buck by operating at the state and local level when you look at how many voters there are and how much you can get, the leverage you get for your money.
He said it makes a lot of sense.
And so, just from a pragmatic standpoint, that's really where we should start to try to refocus our.
Our understanding.
We need to understand what the national and the global agendas are because those are going to come at us.
But the way that we stop it is where the rubber meets the road, and that is at the state and local level.
Because as you showed with your lawsuit, we can nullify, that's the middle road there, is to nullify these bad laws and to refuse to be commandeered by them.
And so we can shut that down.
And so the local sheriff and the elections for judges, those are so important.
The juries are vitally important, and we've lost jury trials.
Pretty much.
People have given up on jury trials because that has also been rigged.
That needs a lot of reform because if you're going to let the lawyers pick the jurors, that's it.
It's kind of like redistricting.
We need educated juries.
We need educated citizens.
And if you're not educated, it's going to be easy to be manipulated by the attorneys there, including the judge.
That's right.
But what we do, when they pick the juries, it's kind of like this battle that's going on in all these different states about the gerrymandering.
If they can go in and pick the voters, they know they're going to win if they do that.
And that's what they do with the jury trials, they go in and pick the voters on the trial.
And so there's some room for reform there, but people are not even talking about that yet.
So, anyway, I'm proud that our case stopped the Brady Bill movement because Howard Metzenbaum actually introduced Brady Bill 2 just two weeks after I filed.
And at that time, I'm completely by myself.
I was the only sheriff in the entire United States doing this lawsuit out of 3,087.
It didn't really change too much because only six others joined me in the lawsuit.
So, there's seven of us.
Doing this out of 3,086.
So the percentage didn't really change that much, but it helped save the case.
And I have to tell you, when Brady Bill 2 was introduced, it got stalled in committee because they brought up that there was a sheriff suing on Brady Bill 1.
How can we promulgate the second one when the first one's in court?
And so they put a stall on that one, they put a hold on it.
And then when we won, Brady Bills 2, 3, 4, and 5 never came up again.
By the time the fifth one would have been passed, the Second Amendment would have been completely destroyed.
And this is about the third time it was the first time, but there's been two times since where sheriffs have actually stood strong for the Second Amendment.
There's been three times in recent history since 1997 where the sheriffs of this country have literally saved the Second Amendment from.
The federal government and whoever, whatever administration was in there at the time.
It happened under Clinton, it happened under Obama, and it happened under Biden.
Thank you, Sheriffs of America.
Folks, if you want to be a part of that movement, join us at cspwa.org.
Yes, that's very important.
And what you mentioned is really important.
We talk all the time about precedence and the importance of precedence.
And there it is in your case, you know, because you had the case at trial, and then even more so because you won.
That set up a precedent.
And so, in that particular case, we got a good precedent that is being set.
But usually, we don't see that.
Usually, it's going the other way.
So, it's nice to see a good precedent being set for once.
And I really do thank you for doing that.
And again, folks, go to cspoa.org.
And is that where they can find your book, Sheriff Mack?
Yeah, I have other books.
I've written seven books, but my new book will be on there very shortly.
Yes.
Okay, great.
And you can join as part of the posse, and they've got an information kit that.
Sheriff Mack and I have talked about in previous interviews a set of questions.
And it's a great thing.
If you've got a bunch of friends who have this questionnaire from the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officer Association, you can get a meeting with a sheriff and you can ask them questions about, give them this questionnaire to see where they stand on some of these issues.
That'll give you more information than you're ever going to get out of any of these websites that will go through and ask them a question.
These questions are a lot more thoughtful and probing.
So, you might be able to get, if you've got several people with you, as we've talked about in the past with Sheriff Mack, usually they'll let you talk to them.
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You say, We're a committee here from such and such a jurisdiction.
You know, we're from this neighborhood, and, you know, oh, well, okay, we got a group of people here that I can talk to if I.
And every Wednesday, we have training for the Posse members.
So, CSPOA Posse webinar is every Wednesday.
So, it'll be tomorrow.
Hopefully, you'll join and be ready to go with us tomorrow.
But we help train you how to work with your sheriff.
That's great.
That's great.
Well, thank you so much, Sheriff Mack.
It's always great talking to you.
Love the history.
It was really fascinating today.
Thank you so much.
Well, thank you too.
See you next time.
All right.
Bye bye.
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