The David Knight Show - The COVID Index: The Science Was Never Settled

Nov. 4, 2025 - The David Knight Show

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The COVID Index: The Science Was Never Settled

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	Hi, my name is Brian Hooker and I'm the Chief Scientific Officer for Children's Health Defense.
	And I want to talk to you about an important initiative of CHD called the COVID Index.
	This is the information that the Powers at Be did not want you to see.
	This web repository refutes the narrative, the official narrative, regarding COVID-19.
	It has a very, very comprehensive, easy-to-use search engine.
	So you can search readily and also get direct excerpts from every entry in the COVID index.
	There's so much information out there that needs to be curated.
	And this is a place where it has been done and is being done continuously.
	So I highly recommend that you check out this resource at www.covidindex.science.
	All right, welcome back.
	And that was a little introductory video that you'll find at that site, COVIDindex.science.
	I didn't even know they had a .science.
	I guess they did that in honor of Fauci.
	It'd be interesting to get the domain name.
	I am.science.
	Joining us now is Dr. Brian Hooker.
	He's the Chief Scientific Officer at Children's Health Defense, formerly the department chair and professor emeritus of biology at Simpson University.
	And I have been following his very valuable research and the very valuable things that Children's Health Defense had through this massive pandemic MacGuffin that we always talk about.
	And it's good that, you know, we can look at this stuff and we can understand the motivations of these people and we can sanity check it.
	But it's important to have the scientific information that's there as well.
	And that's what Dr. Hooker provides.
	You know, it was actually Children's Health Defense, and I think ICON that when they sued the CDC, the CDC is part of the vaccine holding them not responsible for any damage that they did to the kids.
	I forget the exact name of it, the 1986 Act.
	And you probably know what that is, Dr. Hooker.
	What's the name of that official act?
	It's called the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and it set up the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.
	And the program was up and running in about 1989.
	And they were supposed to be tracking as part of that agreement.
	They were supposed to track the adverse events and to make recommendations and so forth.
	And so I remember RFK Jr.
	and Del Bigtree at ICON asked them, you know, we'd like to see your records and see what recommendations you have made and so forth and so on.
	They stalled, installed, installed, and wouldn't comply with it.
	Finally, they had a judge that forced them to give the information.
	You could see that for 30 plus years, they had not been concerned about any of this stuff.
	They've kept no records at all.
	And so it's very important when we come into this, if we understand what the priorities of these people are, that it's not your health, that it's the profits of the corporations and the revolving door that is there, that's an important thing to start with.
	But what Dr. Hooker has provided is beyond that, and it gives us the tools that we need in order to try to help educate people.
	And they've got a new resource now, COVIDIndex.science.
	So with that long introduction, thank you so much for joining us.
	I really do appreciate you coming on today.
	Well, you're very welcome.
	And I'm excited that Children's Health Defense is hosting COVIDIndex.science.
	It is such an amazing repository of information of all things around the COVID era and now what's going on the post-COVID era.
	You know, the mess that was created by the whole pandemic needs to be cleaned up.
	And that's, you know, the fallout.
	We're continuing to see publications come out and publications that we feel are bad or fraudulent that are not good science.
	We want to make sure that those are critiqued in the COVID index and then also the good science that's coming out so people will know what's going on with things like remdesivir, hospital protocols, the vaccine, the therapies that work that have been disparaged like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and vitamin D3 and zinc.
	And, you know, so we've got sort of a historical basis and we've built this edifice of information and it's a living database.
	We're always updating the COVID index.
	So when things come out, then we can feature the new information and some of the information pouring out like ties to things like autism as well as neurodevelopmental disabilities for individuals that got the shot in pregnancy.
	And also, you know, one of the things that practitioners are talking about are turbo cancers.
	We're seeing so many turbo cancers that we believe that the vaccine played a role in either causing that cancer or hastening the growth of that cancer.
	Yes, I remember.
	And I remember pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole talking in the spring of 2021 as it was really starting to roll out in a large way.
	He said, I'm looking at patients and I'm seeing that it's damaging their killer T cells.
	And he goes, and that's when I first heard the term turbo cancer, I think.
	He was talking about that.
	He said, it's really going to cause that to explode because that's your body's first defense against cancer cells, the killer T cells.
	And so I guess the first question I would have for you, what about people who got the shots?
	Many of the listeners have, hopefully they haven't gotten it, but perhaps they have family or friends who have.
	What types of things, are there going to be resources there at COVIDindex.science that would help people who have been exposed to this pathogen?
	Yes, there are resources on recovery from COVID vaccine injury.
	That is a part of the database.
	And I would also encourage those individuals that are suffering and they really don't know where to go because so many practitioners either don't acknowledge that it happens or they'll throw up their hands and say, I have no idea what to do.
	So I would encourage those individuals to email us at info at children'shealthdefense.org and ask that question directly.
	You know, I can't really recommend practitioners, you know, in an interview or in that particular setting, but at least we can let people know what practitioners are in the area or what practitioners are specially are specializing in those types of cancers or in those types of difficulties.
	Like, you know, long COVID vaccine injury is extremely prevalent.
	A lot of people are having symptoms that are similar to fibromyalgia that either got COVID or got the COVID shot.
	And we're finding circulating spike protein in these individuals that got the COVID shot for upwards to two years after they got their last vaccine.
	So things can be done and things need to be done.
	Yes, I had an interview years ago with an injured orthopedic surgeon who could no longer work because his hands were shaking.
	And he kept going to fellow physicians.
	And as soon as he would say, he thought it was a vaccine injury and this is what they would just basically, I can't help you.
	They would run away.
	It just tells us so much about the state of medicine right now, doesn't it?
	Even to the extent that he finally went to somebody and the guy said, all right.
	I've got some things here that I think will help you, but we're not going to talk about what caused it.
	I mean, that kind of fear is like a totalitarian Stalinesque state.
	I mean, this is the kind of stuff that Solzhenitsy talked about in the Soviet Union.
	It is.
	And, you know, we were so fortunate.
	California had a bill to actually codify that so physicians and providers could not deviate from the standard of care.
	They could not talk about things that were outside of like Remdeservir or Paxlovid or Monoholvinir that were the sort of, you know, patented technologies that were going to give the most money, you know, to government scientists.
	And so they could not deviate from that line.
	They could never talk about ivermectin.
	That bill passed, but fortunately it was overturned by a court decision and the bill, the California legislature withdrew it.
	But many practitioners do not know that, that they have the freedom to be able to deviate from the standard of care.
	Many are afraid, you know, because of individuals that have been persecuted, that have lost their certifications, things like that.
	But, you know, quite honestly, I know the practitioners that have gone through the persecution, that have lost their certifications.
	They fight back, they win.
	And so many of them are still in practice today.
	And I'm glad for people like Ryan Cole, for Peter McCullough, for Pierre Corey, that have really fought the system and are still seeing patients, treating patients, and doing a lot of good.
	That's great.
	Yeah.
	It is horrific to look at how corrupt the system is.
	And, of course, they got a lot of different ways that they can come after you.
	I'm pretty sure it was a Children's Health Defense article where they were talking about how the insurance companies will come after the pediatricians who don't follow the vaccine schedule and get a certain percentage of their children vaccinated on schedule.
	They will basically cut across the board what they will pay these pediatricians and basically put them out of practice.
	Even if you don't get some review board to pull their license, they can pull that economic trick on you.
	I think that was from Children's Health Defense.
	They have done that and they threatened that all the time.
	We were able to get the incentive program for one of the largest HMOs in the United States, and it was Anthem Blue Cross.
	And what we found was that pediatricians stood to make over a half a million dollars a year if 63% or more of their pediatric practice was fully vaccinated.
	They could get $600 per patient if they had 1,000 patients that were fully vaccinated.
	That was $600,000.
	And that was a yearly incentive.
	So, you know, those individuals that have been fired from pediatric practices because they haven't been following the vaccine schedule, that's why it has nothing to do with health.
	It has everything to do with a pediatrician on the take.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And of course, we look at the whole COVID thing.
	I was absolutely amazed.
	I remember it was in August of 2020.
	The American Hospital Association was saying, wait a minute, you told us you're going to give us a 20% bonus and now you're telling us that we've got to give you our PCR tests.
	You told us at the beginning that you didn't have enough of them and that they didn't work anyway.
	Right.
	This is amazing.
	I've been shouting about that now for five years.
	And people just don't realize how they use financial strings to get their way with people and how they were financially incentivizing people.
	So you just point at them and say they got COVID, $9,000.
	You put them on a ventilator.
	We're going to give you $39,000.
	We'll give you a 20% bonus on everything that you do if you say this person has COVID.
	I mean, the whole thing was bought and paid for, wasn't it?
	It really was.
	And that, you know, there was sort of an economic dearth right during the shutdown because they were shutting down hospitals and taking elective surgeries and things like that and telling them to stay home.
	So then they waived these incentive programs come, you know, July, August of 2020 to the providers, to the hospitals, and really, you know, forced them into a situation where many of them just had to go along.
	You know, let's diagnose COVID.
	Let's diagnose.
	You know, we're not going to give effective therapies.
	We really want to put people on ventilators because they got more money for ventilated patients that were in ICU.
	And so that forced many, many more patients into that whole system where they got worse and worse and worse.
	And I think a lot of them, David, died of bacterial pneumonia, but they, you know, they were never tested for the presence of bacteria and they were allowed to die.
	It was just a crying shame.
	And people should go to jail over this.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Putting people on the ventilator and that type of thing.
	We have Grace Sheriff's case, and they're reopening that again.
	And that was another one of these cases, just basically hospital murder.
	Put a do not resuscitate and put her on a ventilator.
	But I wanted to ask you a couple of things because there's been some disappointment on my part and as well as a lot of my listeners with what's going on with Maha.
	I'm disappointed that the mRNA jab is still there.
	I mean, we've had the process.
	And I understand there's a lot of inertia here.
	I understand there's a real political fight there.
	And I kind of watched this as it's been developing in Florida with Joseph Latipo there.
	First they came back and they said, well, we don't recommend it, you know, but if you get it, you can go ahead and get it.
	But they're not going to ban it.
	And they're gradually moving into that, you know, first saying we strongly, we don't recommend it.
	We're not going to force anymore.
	But now we strongly do not recommend it.
	But they won't actually come in with a ban on this kind of stuff.
	And it's so frustrating because we have seen in the past when a handful of people died over a vaccine or over medicine, they would pull it.
	And that is not happening now.
	They will pull it if you've got a couple of children who die because of a faulty baby crib.
	They pull all of them off the market.
	But they don't do that with this.
	And so the question is, you know, what is happening?
	Why don't we see a ban of the mRNA?
	And of course, what Latipo has moved to is to say that now pointing out the fact there's a lot of DNA contamination in the vaccines and say this is something that should cause you to pull this off the market, but it's not.
	And so at what point do you think this is going to happen or is it going to happen?
	I want it to happen desperately.
	You know, we have things that are not on the open market that are not sold or distributed ever because they're poisons.
	We call them poisons.
	And so when you look at the mRNA shot, it is pure poison.
	It is basically, you know, when people unfortunately are up in arms that they want their COVID boosters, they want their COVID boosters.
	I know people personally that are on their seventh or eighth booster and they are addicted to these things and you wonder like, well, why are you still around?
	Because they are so, so toxic.
	And we've seen so many people affected.
	You know, I believe that in the United States easily, if the calculations were done, we'd see over a million people who have died because of the COVID shot.
	But the HHS has been dragging its heels.
	And I think that part of it is, you know, the more the administration end of it and not the HHS end of it.
	Because I know, you know, I know Secretary Kennedy.
	I worked with Secretary Kennedy for, you know, 12 years before he became Secretary Kennedy.
	And it is his heart and his plan to be able to get rid of that technology because it never should have been rolled out.
	People knew historically that that type of technology was bad news.
	And it was a grand medical experiment.
	You know, basically a big clinical trial that was head up by Tony Fauci.
	And it should have never happened.
	That man belongs in jail.
	You know, we're pushing as hard as we can push.
	And honestly, there are people on the inside of HHS that are rooting for us and saying, no, push harder, push harder, because we have this behemoth of an organization that doesn't want to change.
	We have deep state people in HHS that don't want to change.
	So we need more pressure.
	And of course, when we look at this, I think we really dodged a bullet there with Susan Monarez being taken out of the CDC.
	And she was somebody who was at BARDA and ARPA-H and very focused on mRNA plus AI.
	And we know that Trump was pushing that on like his first day in office with Stargate.
	He had Larry Ellison there saying, yeah, we're going to do an AI assessment of you and we'll custom make an mRNA thing there.
	So I was very concerned as to what was going to happen there.
	And of course, that's created a lot of pushback against RFK.
	And they said, well, you just fired her because of a personal disagreement or something, you know, insubordination because he wanted some of these other people fired.
	And she said, no, no, no, I'm not going to fire them.
	And so he fired her.
	What do you know about that?
	Do you think that he gets that, that he's pushing back against the mRNA that's basically being put out there for everything?
	I mean, we had at USDA with this administration, with the Trump administration, we had Brooke Rollins, who, with all this bird flu insanity and the mass culling of chickens so far that was happening with Biden, her big solution was, well, we'll give the mRNA bird flu shot to all the chickens and then that'll be fine.
	And also to the cattle and to the pigs as well, all of our food supply.
	And so she has the authority to approve that for agricultural issues.
	But on the other side, the mRNA things that are there, especially when you combine it with artificial intelligence, very concerning.
	What do you know about what's going on with Monterey's and the rest of the stuff?
	When you talk about deep state, I mean, that's what I think of as BARDA and ARPA-H and these insidious programs that are out there.
	It seems like there's a lot of people in the Trump administration.
	Trump is working with Larry Ellison.
	And of course, Brooke Rollins is in on all that as well.
	What's your take on that?
	Well, not all that litters is gold, even in HHS.
	And so, you know, by Susan Monarez being fired and then other CDC officials taking their toys and going home, I mean, they did us a huge favor.
	Yeah.
	You know, they needed to be fired anyway.
	So it was like, okay, you know, don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.
	So we were very, very fortunate to that.
	There has to be more of a mass exodus of these individuals because mRNA technology is sort of this new play toy.
	And scientists think, oh, well, it's plug and play.
	We can just program AI to tell us what the next pathogen is.
	And they have this buzzword that they're hiding.
	behind called universal vaccination.
	And so when you look at the buzzword universal vaccination, even Jay Bhattacharya put it out in a memo talking about a new vaccine platform.
	It was mRNA written all over it.
	That needs to go.
	You know, I've already emailed him directly and said, you know what?
	Universal vaccination is code word for gain of function.
	And so that means that you're weaponizing and you're basically giving permission for scientists in the NIH to weaponize H5N1, to weaponize, you know, SARS-CoV-2 or whatever, monkeypox, and so they can have the pathogen du jour.
	And if that leaks out, then that's the whole pandemic that, you know, Fauci is sitting on the edge of a seat waiting for so he can, you know, somehow swoop in and save the day again.
	But these, these are bad.
	These are horrible technologies.
	Nobody has talked about innate immune suppression that happens when you get mRNA shots.
	Nobody's talked about the effect of the lipid nanoparticle on the immune system.
	And I think you're taking shots.
	Excuse me.
	I think you mentioned that at the very beginning.
	I remember in the fall of 2020 when they were talking about it, there was an article, and I think it was you that was involved in it that questioned the idea of this pegylation, the PEG encapsulation.
	And he says, this is going to create anaphylactic shock.
	And I've told this to people many times.
	I said, they told you to, you contacted the FDA and said, well, we don't care about it.
	Contact Pfizer.
	Of course, Pfizer doesn't care if the FDA doesn't care.
	That was you, I think, at Children's Health Defense, was it?
	It was Children's Health Defense.
	And I was working with a distinguished colleague, Lynn Redwood, on that.
	And it turns out that because of exposure to PEG, 75% of the population in the United States carries PEG antibodies.
	And so that meant, you know, that, and many people did go into anaphylaxis and, you know, sudden anaphylactic shock after getting the jab.
	And so, you know, it was predictable.
	It was highly predictable.
	Why would you coat, you know, this lipid nanoparticle with a known allergen?
	You know, it's a recipe for disaster, but it's convenient.
	People say, oh, well, you know, you have immune reactions all the time.
	They frankly didn't really care.
	They didn't want to do the experimentation.
	They just wanted to roll out a vaccine.
	And they were paid handsomely to the tune of about $250 billion over the course of the pandemic in sales of those shots.
	Yeah, amazing how many billionaires they coined with that.
	But it just shows the utter disregard for safety and health that exists in these institutions and these corporations.
	I've got a question here from Flower Sower.
	Thank you for the tip, Flower Sower.
	Please ask Dr. Hooker when Children's Health Defense is going to pursue and promote removing the protection the pharmaceutical industry hides behind with the 1986 Act.
	Why isn't this a priority for CHD?
	She asks.
	Well, I am so grateful for that question because we are working on it.
	We're working with key legislators that we can't name right now on being able to abolish the 1986 Act.
	We're also working with HHS, who is trying to re-envision the act.
	I mean, frankly, my own opinion is that it just needs to go.
	It needs to go away.
	And then we need guardrails for protection of families of vaccine-injured kids.
	We need at least a one-time look back for those that were denied justice, especially around the omnibus autism proceedings.
	You know, my family, and this is why I fight this.
	My family was in vaccine court for 16 years.
	We filed our claim in May of 2002, and we did not get a decision, and we were not allowed to even go to oral arguments because of a sort of a vendetta, I believe, that our special master had against our expert witnesses, you know, regarding the toxicity of mercury.
	You know, my son got a full wall of mercury from his vaccines that never should have been in there.
	And arguably, mercury does cause neurodevelopmental disorders.
	And so we were never given our day in court.
	There are thousands upon thousands of families just like that, and they all need justice.
	They all need their day in court.
	They were promised that by the Seventh Amendment and the 14th Amendment, and they were never given it.
	And that's one of the things.
	That was the key aha moment for me when I found out about the 1986 Act.
	Very important.
	That's why, you know, I've talked many times about Dr. Andrew Wakefield's movie, 1986, The Act, I think is the name of it.
	And it's a dramatization of how it affects a family.
	When you do something like that, basically that shows what this is truly all about.
	And that should be the moment.
	I think we need to spread the news far and wide.
	If we can't stop this, if people at least understand that they have absolutely no liability and that, as we said before, if somebody you've got a crib and you might have one or two freak accidents with that crib, they recall all of them and massive fines for the manufacturers.
	But nothing for this, no matter how many people they kill.
	It's absolutely amazing the damage that they're allowed to get away with it.
	And it's that type of stuff that I look at and it's like, okay, well, I know what's going on here.
	That's how I make my decisions.
	But it's always good to have a scientist who's going to go through and tell people what the mechanisms are to get them to understand that.
	There was just a recent article on Reason.
	I haven't covered it on the show yet, but I was absolutely stunned to see this article from Reason saying, well, we were told we're all going to die.
	And look, I'm still alive.
	I got the vaccine.
	I know a lot of people got the vaccine and they're still alive.
	And again, this is another one of the issues why when you have the COVID index.science, it's good to have the truth that is out there.
	We had a lot of people who made predictions that everybody that got this vaccine is going to be dead within a year or so.
	A guy that I used to work for said that.
	And that is making the, that is essentially an alibi for these people because they can point to that exaggeration and say that didn't work.
	And of course, when Reason looks at this, they should know, first of all, that the statistics are being suppressed.
	They're being lied to about it.
	They understand that.
	They see that all the time, whether you're talking about unemployment figures or talking about inflation figures, they know the government lies with statistics.
	They should expect that the government is going to lie with statistics about this when they rush something to market.
	But the other part of it is the individual variation that we see from person to person.
	But there's a third thing I wanted to ask you about.
	And that is there was research that was done by Naomi Wolf, and they went through and looked at the different batches.
	Remember at the very beginning of this, again, back in August, September, the CDC was putting out information about a form that they wanted the health providers to collect information on about the vaccine.
	And so they wanted all your personal information, your address and so forth and so on.
	And the only other thing they kept about the vaccine was the lot number.
	And I talked about that at the time because I said it's kind of ominous that they get all this personal information and there's a box there that says refused.
	I said, what are they going to do with that?
	And so I said, you know, be aware of that that's there that, you know, they're going to keep a record of you if you refuse.
	But they kept the lot information.
	And she went back in her research and they found a tremendous variation.
	I think it was like 30-fold from the least to the most active ingredients that were in there.
	Is that something you're aware of?
	Is that something that is still going on?
	It is still going on.
	And lot-to-lot variability with this type of technology is very, very, you know, the margins for error are really, really large.
	And that's not something you want to see in anything that you would put in your body.
	We saw that, you know, the first batches that were rolled out had so many adverse events that, you know, maybe 80,000, 60,000 would be distributed.
	And then they would quietly pull them off the market and not tell anybody that that was a hot lot.
	And you can actually go, you know, to a tracking site that tracks the adverse events on vars and just Google how bad is my batch.
	And that will tell you, you know, what adverse events have been reported for that particular batch of vaccines.
	That's the lot information that you need.
	And we know that historically, lots and lots of vaccines, not just the COVID shot, have been subject to this level of poor biotechnology processing.
	You look at the Merck MMR vaccine, MMR2, that was introduced, I believe, in the United States in about 1978.
	Nobody knows the exact concentration of virus in that vaccine.
	Nobody has ever really done the quality control.
	And so the lot-to-lot variability is very, very high.
	And the only thing that we do know because of whistleblowers that have come out of Merck is that the maximum concentration of virus in that vaccine is much, much higher than what the FDA ever approved.
	And so it's another grand medical experiment.
	And we know when that happened, it happened in 1999.
	They started doing a process called overfilling the batches and boosting the virus concentrations.
	That's when anaphylactic shock really started in earnest and death really started in earnest for the MMR vaccines after they boosted those virus concentrations.
	You can see it clear as the nose on your face if you do a VARES analysis.
	Wow.
	And that's the other thing, too.
	You know, besides the fact they don't have any liability, so they don't have to care.
	It's just the lackadaisical, haphazard attitude of this.
	Of all things, medicines and pharmaceuticals that are very concentrated, they are carefully controlled in terms of the amounts of whatever that it is that you're getting.
	And that I always looked at that and I kind of thought, Dr. Hooker, that maybe what they were doing was that was maybe part of the experiment, you know, experimenting on everybody.
	Because when you're trying to roll out something, you're trying to find the sweet spot between something that is going to be toxic because it's too much and something that's going to be ineffective because it's too little.
	I said, it looks to me like a massive experiment to play around with people.
	But it's just absolute disregard for any standards of safety or medicine that's there.
	Really, it is abysmal.
	And when you look at the level of contamination in biologics, you know, FDA is separated into two divisions, two main divisions or centers.
	There's the centers for drugs evaluation and research, and then the center of biologics evaluation and research.
	It's called SIBER.
	But historically, those biotech drugs, they come from a soup that has been fermented with a particular genetically modified organism.
	A lot of times it's E. coli that is involved in that.
	So you get carryover of E. coli proteins, you get carryover of yeast proteins, you get carryover of foreign DNA.
	And in the case of the mRNA jabs, then you have carryover of virus particles like SV40.
	And SV40, we know, causes cancer.
	It is known to be carcinogenic.
	Yeah.
	It's just awful.
	I've got a couple of questions here, several questions, as a matter of fact, from the audience.
	Jerry Alitalo says, please ask Dr. Hooker how he feels about ENF A-K-Y-I-L-D-I-Z public admission that COVID mRNA injections are nanoscale machines programmed for human injection.
	I don't know who that individual is.
	Are you familiar with his work and that statement?
	No, I'm not sure.
	What do you think of that statement?
	I'm not familiar with the work, but I will say I have not observed this directly.
	I obtained some of the mRNA technology shots myself, examined them under the microscope, just used face contrast microscopy to see what I could find, and then tried to incubate it over a period of time at physiological temperature.
	And the batch that I saw did not have that in it.
	I'm not saying that it doesn't because again, you know, David, nothing surprises me anymore when I see the things that the government has gotten away with and knowingly gotten away with with, you know, with horrible poisons that should have never been introduced like remdesivir.
	You know, remdesivir killed the organs that caused the lungs to fill up with fluid.
	And then the patients had to be intubated to force the fluid out of the lungs because the tissue in the lungs was dying.
	So so many different things have been foisted.
	Is that technology readily available and off the shelf?
	Oh, most definitely.
	Most definitely they could do that.
	Did they do it?
	That's something I'm still investigating, and I honestly do not know.
	Let me ask you this.
	This is something else I covered.
	I remember when it happened.
	In Japan, they had two different batches of over a million each.
	It's like one was a million, the other was like 1.2 million of these Pfizer or Moderna mRNA things.
	And they noticed that there were black particulates in it.
	And they also noticed that they interacted with magnets.
	And they threw all of them away.
	And that was briefly reported and then disappeared.
	And I was just wondering, are you familiar with that?
	Could you verify that, that that happened, anything?
	I know individuals that you could do that experiment on and at the injection site and it was magnetic.
	What I make of that, were there magnetic particles in the vaccine?
	Yeah, the technology exists.
	So it is, we need all of the documentation of Pfizer.
	There's a big, big reason why Pfizer wanted to seal those records for 76 years.
	Yeah.
	Because, you know, that is, you know, we're going to find a witch's brew in there.
	Yes.
	And I think that's.
	The connection with DARPA.
	Yeah.
	Connection with DARPA and BARD and everything right there.
	That points to a witch's brew of some sort.
	I was just wondering if maybe it showed up in Japan because of the long travel time.
	Maybe there was an issue with refrigeration, the unusual issue about how unusually cold it had to be kept.
	But it's also, it seems like the Japanese are a little bit more open and honest about some of these things.
	They were the first ones to report about the biodistribution issues.
	And that was something that people reported on.
	That got severely punished in the West, but they reported it in Japan.
	Exactly.
	I'm thankful for that information because we didn't know the biodistribution.
	We were told lies.
	And I think that they were bold-faced lies.
	I don't think that they were just mistakes or misspeaking.
	I think those people had the distribution.
	They did animal studies.
	Surely they had the distribution information at that time.
	In fact, what was leaked in Japan was a Pfizer document.
	Yes, yes.
	Got another question here from Karen Carpenter, 27 with Nights of the Storm.
	She says, question: please comment on Susan Monarez and the vaccine safety data link.
	Is the VSD accessible for studies?
	That is a horrible mess.
	And I think that we need to apply pressure on HHS.
	I think we need to apply pressure on Congress to open up the vaccine safety data link.
	The vaccine safety data link is an ongoing record of about 10 million patients enrolled in 10 different HMOs.
	It's all de-identified, anonymized, so you can't figure out what patient is what.
	You can't get any type of identity information from that.
	But the Dr. Doscalakis, I forget his first name, he hid, literally hid and then bragged about hiding the vaccine safety data link from Secretary Kennedy for the first seven months that Secretary Kennedy was in office.
	And then Dr. Daskalakis then ended up resigning in protest with Monterey.
	Now we know it's there.
	Now we know that the vaccine safety data link is there.
	But there are contractual hiccups that keep anybody from getting data from 2002 on.
	We do not have that information.
	And we need to demand that information because, you know, there are so many different things.
	There are so many different vaccines that were introduced that have never been adequately studied.
	There are even unvaccinated individuals in the vaccine safety data link because it's not required.
	The patient enrollment doesn't require vaccination.
	So I know they have, you know, they have tens of thousands of records for individuals that have never seen a vaccine.
	So we need all that information.
	Monterey's was hiding it.
	Dascalakis was hiding it.
	Should go to jail.
	And now the head of the immunization safety office, I believe his name is Mike McNeil, is stonewalling to allow Secretary Kennedy and his advisors to get access to that data.
	Again, it's deep state gurus that have been there forever.
	They're hiding this information.
	It needs to come open.
	Well, again, it's the sort of thing in another field that I was working in.
	We were trying to get climate data from Dr. Michael Mann, and it was something that he had done at a public university on their work computers.
	And he had published the information and it had been used to create public policy.
	But he absolutely refused to show us the data.
	You know, when I see something like that, same type of thing that we're seeing with Susan Monarez and the CDC doing, trying to hide this vaccine safety data, that is an admission of guilt.
	And it's an admission that, you know, science is not on your side.
	If you are afraid to show people the data and you just want them to do what you say because the position you're in, that is the antithesis of science.
	I've got another question here from Guard Goldsmith of Liberty Conspiracy.
	He said, I wonder if the doctor has any knowledge of breakthroughs for long COVID.
	I still search, finding some interesting hope.
	What do you think about that?
	I, you know, I am not a practitioner, and I know many, many good practitioners that are starting to have breakthroughs using different cocktails of antivirals, antiparasitics, and antibiotics.
	That, you know, that's where I'm hearing the success.
	There are also, you know, and David, I thought I'd never hear myself saying this.
	There are also individuals that are using hypochlorite, hypochlorite solutions.
	You know, they're not, it's not bleach.
	Everybody says, oh, it's bleach.
	You know, no, these are very, very dilute, very, very safe solutions.
	And they're doing nasal lavage on patients.
	That is helping clear the virus.
	That's helping clear the spike.
	And then there are myriad sort of recipes.
	Homeopathy is, you know, I'm hearing from those practicing naturopaths and homeopaths are having really, really good success with long COVID and COVID vaccine injury.
	So, you know, follow the rule that, you know, try it, do one thing at a time, see if it works.
	If it doesn't work, ditch it and move on to the next thing.
	I mean, you know, because you shouldn't suffer.
	We've brought my son a tremendous amount of weight with his vaccine injury that he sustained at 15 months.
	And my house is the house of many clinical trials, whether it's allopathic, whether it's naturopathic, you know, where it comes from, you know, I honestly don't care if it's effective.
	You need to use it.
	And if it's not effective, then move on.
	I agree.
	I look at it.
	And if it's something that is not going to be harmful, you know, I'll try it.
	You know, how much does it cost?
	I'll buy it.
	Going back to the old song from the 1970s.
	Let me ask you about what's going on with autism because I know that you spend a lot of time with autism, focusing on that.
	I'm looking at this Tylenol thing.
	To me, it looks like a red herring.
	It looks like they're trying to dodge the connection for the vaccine stuff.
	What is your take on that?
	I mean, I just don't see that Tylenol has corresponded, uptake in Tylenol has changed radically that would explain the radical change in autism.
	I just don't buy that at all.
	What do you think about that?
	What do you think is that?
	I think, you know, I've done a lot of research on this and spent a lot of time with the lead researcher in that whole field of acetaminophen, neurodevelopmental disorders, and autism.
	His name is William Parker.
	You know, I actually sat down with him for five days and said, look, convince me, you know, because he was hounding me about this.
	And so the thing that's really convenient about Tylenol is that it is a quick solution to a not-so-quick problem.
	And I think that, yeah, there are cases that are definitely associated with some type of infection, some type of vaccination, followed by acetaminophen, definitely, you know, sort of a one-two punch.
	But Tylenol itself is a necessary component, but it's not sufficient.
	You can't just say, oh, you know, Tylenol is bad.
	It is the individuals that have genetic susceptibility that then have a huge amount of oxidative stress, like multiple vaccines all at the same time.
	And then you add Tylenol to the mix.
	That's really the perfect storm.
	So you can't just take care of one and say, oh, we've broken the chain.
	All of them need to be taken care of.
	All of them need to be addressed.
	I think that the administration came out with regarding Tylenol because they thought it's an easy fix.
	But, you know, it is, we didn't get here just from Tylenol.
	We got here from years of abuse of the system.
	And that needs to be fixed.
	And then we can see the autism epidemic go away.
	That's good.
	Yeah, I feel like, you know, when you look at this, it seemed to coincide with a rapid escalation of the vaccine schedule.
	Now, what is going on with that?
	You know, what is happening with that?
	I know you were involved with the measles issue, you know, where they said a couple people died in Texas and you investigated that with the families.
	I know the media is still selling that narrative.
	I think you effectively debunked that that was what had happened there.
	Yeah, they died of bacterial pneumonia that was left untreated.
	Yes.
	But I'm still seeing mainstream articles say, oh, it killed two people and so forth.
	And, you know, so what are the chances of us pulling back on this vaccine schedule?
	I know that it's tremendous support within the bureaucracy and the corporations and the media.
	And I guess that's another part of it.
	What's going to happen with the ads?
	The issue with that?
	I know that RFK Jr.
	has talked about that.
	Well, my hope is that, you know, direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising will go by the wayside.
	I mean, it's gotten ridiculous.
	It is absolutely inane.
	I watch news and old people TV.
	So, you know, my wife is a serial addict to the Hallmark channel.
	And so it's all the drugs, biologics, and vaccines that you can push on old people.
	You know, every day, every ad.
	It is very infrequent that you see anything else.
	And so those need to be pulled.
	And I believe that Secretary Kennedy is working stepwise to get there to that.
	I believe that they're de facto fraudulent, you know, in the sense that, you know, ask your doctor, well, you're not, you don't understand.
	They're not giving you all the information that you need to make an informed decision.
	And so it is really fraudulent what they're putting out there.
	Even if they have somebody rattling off very rapidly, all the adverse effects that they are going to talk about, it's still not sufficient to be truthful, I think.
	No, no, it doesn't tell you how effective that particular therapy is.
	It doesn't tell you how effective the vaccine is at preventing that particular disease.
	I mean, we see, you know, over and over again, RSV, shingles, pneumonia, you know, flu over and over again.
	But they don't, you know, the dirty little secret is some years that when you get the flu shot, you're more likely to get the flu than if you didn't get the flu shot.
	Oh, yeah.
	And so, you know, they.
	We've seen that over and over again almost pretty much every year.
	People who get it, they get it right away.
	Yeah.
	And we know individuals that got the trivalent, the quadrivalent flu shot, got them for their babies, and the babies died within hours.
	I mean, we're investigating several cases of SIDS right now that were the quadrivalent flu shot.
	And it's just, it's such a shame, you know, when you see these babies die.
	Yes.
	And then, you know, the entire system is there to cover it up.
	We want to be able to expose it.
	That's just horrific.
	Yeah, I've played a clip several times of a lady that was on social media, and she said it wasn't until she saw the sudden adult death syndrome stuff that was out there that it clicked with her.
	And she said, I killed my baby.
	And I said so many times, I wish I could talk to her.
	She didn't kill her baby.
	It's people who lied to her, people who knew better, who killed her baby for money.
	That's the saddest thing about it.
	I've got a couple more comments here.
	Real Jason Barker with Nights of the Storm said the CDC took down the publicly available tools that show excess death spikes after the vaccine rollout.
	That's very damning info right there in reply to a person who said, I can't even get the excess death statistics anymore.
	I could in 2022 for every year since it started to be recorded.
	What's going on with that?
	And do you have that information there at COVIDindex.science?
	That has been pulled down.
	And I believe that that's addressed in COVIDIndex.science.
	We do not have the new data regarding excess deaths.
	And it is weird because I published on excess deaths in DMED, the Department of Defense Medical Epidemiological Database.
	I published on excess deaths in 2022 from, you know, from the rollout of the vaccine.
	And all of a sudden, all this stuff just dried up.
	CDC was no longer reporting excess deaths on their website.
	There's so many show games on, you know, you go to the National Center for Health Statistics.
	They never say flu deaths.
	They always say influenza and pneumonia.
	They combine those two categories so people will get scared and get their flu shots, even though they're not effective at preventing death, preventing serious illness, and many times not even effective at doing the flu.
	So yeah, a lot of those databases are pulled down.
	I do encourage any and everybody to FOIA the CDC for specific information.
	It's as simple as an email.
	Just, you know, FOIA request at cdc.gov, F-O-I-A-request at CDC.gov.
	You know, put very concise language of what you want, limit, you know, the ask to specific information, and then by law, they have to respond to you within 30 days.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I remember when they did that with the Defense Department's database of D-Med stuff.
	I remember there's some doctors that saw how things were exploding in a lot of different areas.
	And their absurd reply was, well, not that there was something going on with the vaccine, but they went back and they looked at it.
	They compared it over five years.
	They said, well, all of our data for five years is wrong.
	And it's like, come on.
	Right.
	And then the next thing you know, they pulled it all down.
	I mean, if this isn't the most juvenile cover-up, it's just absolutely amazing.
	It would be comical if it wasn't so horrific what it's doing to people's lives.
	I've got, let's see, Bulldog says they could have very specifically targeted people by lot number.
	Yeah, they could.
	SG Sutton, can Dr. Hooker tell us about the volunteer opportunity with the COVID index?
	Oh, that is so good.
	That is such a great question.
	If you look at the COVIDIndex.science, there is a box that you can click on to volunteer.
	And these volunteers, they're basically individuals that go out and they get new information, newly published information for the COVID index.
	They curate it.
	You know, it's very, very simple.
	You fill out a very, very simple form.
	And then once you filled out that form, then it goes to a very small committee.
	And then they give you a thumbs up or thumbs down, like, oh, yeah, this should go in the COVID index.
	About 95% of it does go into the index.
	But that helps us keep it up to date.
	We have an army of volunteers that do that.
	And we're recruiting more volunteers.
	You get free COVID index merch.
	You get free CHD merch.
	And we love our volunteers.
	We want, I mean, I know there's a lot of people out there that want to help that are really studious and nerdy like me, and they like to read this literature.
	And so, you know, if that is your vibe, if that's the thing that you like to do, make sure that you check out that volunteer opportunities tab on COVIDIndex.science.
	That's great.
	That's great.
	And again, yeah, COVIDindex.science.
	And they have, I guess, most of them are one-minute videos that you can just very easily click on a thing and share it on social media.
	Get this information around.
	That's the most important thing.
	People are not informed or they're misinformed about what's going on here.
	And so it's very important to get those videos that they put together out there.
	I got one more question here from Karen Carpenter when I was a storm.
	It says, does Dr. Hooker think that ultrasound and Wi-Fi, EMF, could play a role in autism?
	What do you think about that?
	I absolutely believe that it plays a role in autism.
	A lot of autism researchers have looked into this and they find statistically significant correlations with EMF.
	You know, there was very little reason for 5G.
	5G is basically there for surveillance purposes.
	Not so you can have better internet, but so the government can know more about you.
	And so you look at all these new technologies, the internet of things.
	So my phone can talk to my computer, my refrigerator, and my ironing board or whatever.
	That is producing energetic signals.
	It's producing energetic signals in the IR range, in the microwave range.
	And that is bad for you.
	I mean, there's nothing good about it.
	I mean, if I had my choice, my own house would be hardwired.
	But what we do is we turn off our devices and Wi-Fi at night and have just like an old clock that tells us the one that you have to change during daylight things and just tells us what time it is.
	Just sleep with it off.
	Just start with turning your Wi-Fi off because there is a connection.
	I don't believe that it's completely causal, but there is a connection with Wi-Fi and with excitatory excitotoxic processes in the brain.
	And you still don't want to stimulate that.
	I agree.
	I mean, when I was going back trying to do some research on Monster Slowy, I found all these different conferences that he was speaking at, Fauci was speaking at, and Francis Collins was speaking at.
	And they were all talking about electroceuticals.
	And I thought, well, this is going to be the next big thing, electroceuticals.
	And it's like, okay, well, if you're going to treat people electrically with things like that, then clearly EMF is going to have a big effect on people.
	Yeah, it's a tacit admission, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	EMF does have an effect.
	If we can manipulate it to, you know, do, you know, some type of medical intervention, then what is it doing every day?
	Yes, exactly.
	And, you know, we had Alan Fry, who worked for the Navy doing experiments, and he documented the fry effect, which you can, certain frequencies, you'll hear it like a clicking type of thing.
	You know, just like we had, you know, the military discovered microwave cooking, you know, the radar ranges of a mana in the early days, you know, then just noticed that their coffee was getting hot.
	Well, if you see something like that, there's a little bit of smoke there.
	There's got to be a fire there somewhere as well, I think.
	I started looking at that in conjunction with the Havana effect that was out there because people were saying they were hearing a clicking stuff.
	It's like, oh, wait, that sounds like the fry effect.
	Maybe that is some kind of directed EMF.
	I'm not sure.
	And I got another question here.
	We're just about out of time.
	This is from Jerry Alitalo.
	He says, please ask Dr. Hooker how he felt immediately after listening closely to DARPA Associated neuroscientist James Giandaro's horrifying public lectures.
	Thank you.
	You know, that one stumped me.
	I know of those lectures.
	I just don't know enough about those lectures.
	I apologize.
	I should know this information and my defense is that we're playing whack-a-mole with everything right now.
	That's right.
	There's so many different.
	I mean, these people have billion-dollar budgets and they're constantly coming up with one bizarre Frankenstein experiment after the other.
	It truly is a scary situation that we find ourselves in at this particular time.
	It is an interesting time and it is a very dangerous time, but thank you so much for the work that you do at Children's Health Defense and for the COVIDIndex.science.
	Thank you, Dr. Hooker.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
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