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Sept. 23, 2025 - The David Knight Show

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Aleksandr Dugin’s Fourth Political Theory

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	This is an article from RT, and it kind of goes into the philosophy of Alexander Dugan, if you remember him, the guy that they say is uh Putin's Rasputin or Putin's brain.
	Uh he is a philosopher, his daughter was assassinated.
	Uh they were trying to get him.
	And I had the opportunity to interview him when I was at InfoWars, which is kind of a uh strange interview.
	I wasn't quite sure where the guy was coming from.
	This was at the beginning of the Trump administration, and at that point, there was a lot of enthusiasm uh amongst general Russians thinking that, well, this is great, we're not going to have the Russia, Russia, Russia fear anymore.
	We're going to normalize relations with uh Trump.
	He even had, if you remember a small town named a street after Trump, temporarily until Trump showed that he was on the same team with these people.
	But as part of that, there was a guy who used to work for Fox News, and he uh contacted uh InfoWars because he was now working with a TV network in Russia, and he said they'd like to get uh Dugan on.
	I was the one that they uh had interview him, and unfortunately, I wish I had had the time to read his book.
	Uh I didn't know about his book, uh, didn't understand that I was looking at some other articles about it, just came up very quickly.
	But he wrote a book talking about the uh fourth approach.
	And when I interviewed him, it was kind of strange because I I perceived this guy uh as coming from a more traditionalist, almost a czarist nationality, because a lot of the stuff that he talks about is very nostalgic for that period of time and that type of thing.
	So I thought, this is a guy who's anti-communist, and maybe this is why they want us to interview him.
	And so when I asked him, there was some talk at the time, some of the people were saying, we've got to get Lenin out of Red Square.
	You know, they've had his decaying body there and Red Square since he died.
	Um, I don't know, maybe we're getting close to a century ago.
	And um, so there's some people who wanted to move his body out there, and so I asked him about that.
	He goes, Oh, no, no, that's part of our history, and we honor it.
	And it's like, okay, where's this guy coming from?
	He likes Lenin and he likes the czars.
	He's all about culture and history.
	And so he sees all of that as playing into a cultural history.
	And uh his view is that instead of having a philosophy, a political philosophy, an economic philosophy that can be used for world domination, we need to uh have the world set up with multiple cultural and ethnic diversity, really.
	It's real diversity that we're talking about, real multiculturalism, where you have uh national cultural, ethnic identities, and people are operating in their own interest.
	In other words, what we had before this kind of globalism, and and when you look at the three philosophies, communism, fascism, liberalism, liberalism, meaning uh what we have in the West, you know, and I guess really that that kind of liberalism, which is uh not really about liberty, but uh that's how they try to sell it.
	And so in all of these, they have all resulted in governments uh who seek to have global domination because we understand that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they can never have enough.
	Uh, these people who are in political power are just like the billionaires.
	You could be a billionaire, you could be a trillionaire, and it still won't be enough of these people.
	They always want more.
	And so you can be the leader of the world's largest country, richest country, most powerful country, and you're always going to want more.
	You're gonna be want to be the leader of uh a region or a leader of the entire world, and we see this play out, it's just human nature.
	And so this is an interview that RT had with a guy who was co-founder of Austria's identitarian movement that believes that liberal Europe has lost its way.
	So, what is the identitarian movement?
	Well, it's about nationalist preservation, cultural, ethnic, natural, uh, national identities.
	And uh so this guy was inspired by Alexander Dugan and his fourth political theory.
	And um it is uh uh again, like I said, liberalism, communism, fascism, but then he puts out a he envisions a world of multipolarity, a world of distinct civilizations with their own culture of values that rejects universal ideologies.
	But key to all this is that he sees it as being led by Russia.
	He thinks that only Russia can lead this.
	Also, when I talked to him, it was kind of interesting, his view of America as just being a successor to Great Britain and its sea power.
	And so he saw continuity of sea power versus land power.
	Russia, of course, being land power, China as well being land power, but the American and British tradition was one of sea power, which led them especially to be able to do global domination economically.
	And so he sees Russia as the only counterweight to this kind of Western globalization.
	Markovic is the guy that they interviewed.
	He's moved, he said, beyond a single focus issue on immigration, turning instead to a broader philosophical program that champions Eurasian unity, a sovereign European civilization, and resistance to the West's rule of deceit.
	Today serves as a Secretary General and press spokesman for an institute that was named after a famous Russian military commander.
	So this is a Vienna-based organization founded in 2014 to promote Austrian Russian dialogue and to safeguard Europe's cultural heritage, he says, from liberal globalist erosion.
	So you can imagine he's got a big target on his back here with the Austrian government.
	And we have seen that the Austrian Nationalist Party, even though they won the election, the last election, all the other uh parties got together because a multi party uh election, nobody's gonna get past fifty percent.
	So you've always got to have a coalition.
	Well, as we saw in France and with the Nationalist Party that's there, all of the other parties set aside all of their differences over everything else.
	And the communists, the socialists, the uh the liberals over there, they all united against the nationalist party to make sure that it didn't uh form a government, so it's in opposition.
	Which also went to show you just how little difference there is from the liberals, the socialists, and the communists.
	They were they're all interchangeable.
	They're all for the exact same thing.
	France is the same as it was before that happened.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Um they he's been branded as a Russian agent, because he is working for a Russian institute that is there.
	You probably take that as a compliment.
	He is a devotee of Alexander Dugan's fourth political theory, and um for him the struggle is existential, a battle for Europe's soul in the face of unipolar collapse.
	He envisions a continent that is reborn through faith, tradition, multipolar solidarity with Russia.
	In his view, Austria can either remain a compliant satellite of Brussels and Washington, in other words, the EU or the US, or reclaim its historic role as a bridge between East and West.
	The choice he warns will determine whether future generations inherit a sovereign European civilization or a museum piece.
	I would describe it more as a cut flower.
	The problem with Europe is far more fundamental than any kind of political or philosophical issue.
	It is a cut flower because these people have cut themselves off from the vine, the vine of the Lord Jesus Christ.
	They want the fruit of a Christian society, but they don't want Christ.
	That is the fundamental issue, and it is not about political theory.
	The fundamental issue, culture and politics, all that stuff is downstream from your relationship with God.
	And it's not something that you can even operate yourself.
	If you shake your fist against God, he's going to shake your country back.
	And uh this is, I think what we're seeing here.
	Western media often labels you as far right and as a Russian agent.
	Is this just a smear campaign to discredit multipolar voices?
	He says, yes without question.
	In Austria today, any Christian who openly declares belief in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is branded far right.
	Anyone questioning NATO's expansion since 1991, or calling for an end to arms deliveries to Kiev is accused of being a Russian agent.
	Even communists and socialists are smeared with the same labels if they criticize fascism in Ukraine or Western involvement in the Maiden coup.
	Conservatives who affirm biological reality that there's only two sexes are attacked just as fiercely.
	If advocating peace and a multipolar world order makes one a fascist, then half of Austria would qualify under these absurd definitions.
	He says they asked him, Do you believe the West's unipolar dominance is collapsing?
	Yes.
	Since the so-called war on terror began in 2001, the West has been in a permanent state of crisis.
	And this is by design.
	It was an inside job to create a permanent state of crisis.
	The COVID was the other shoot or drop, as I've said many times.
	The migration crisis, the financial crisis now, the war against Russia have all accelerated the breakdown of Western unipol unipolarity.
	That was a massive global strike against us.
	So I 9-11 was targeted towards America.
	But COVID was really a global agenda.
	Same type of thing.
	This collapse, though, he said, offers hope.
	The end of liberal totalitarianism.
	Think about that.
	That's kind of it looks at first like it is a contradiction in terms because you know, if you think liberal, I think classical liberal.
	But uh I think that truly is liberal totalitarianism, is uh what we're really seeing here.
	You know, it also brings danger, as governments may adopt ever harsher measures to cling to power.
	The fall of the West is inevitable.
	The only uncertainty is how and when it will conclude.
	So they asked him, is the conflict between Russia and the West really about Ukraine?
	Or the clash of civilizations?
	He said, it is a class of civilizations.
	As Samuel Huntington predicted, the West is fighting the rest of the world to preserve its dominance.
	On the opposing side stands the BRICS nation.
	And uh this this multipolar multipolar order and what we see them trying to do with BRICS really flows out of Alexander Dugan's philosophy here.
	He said, Our goal is not a global 1984, but the great awakening of all people.
	Now look, this all sounds wonderful, doesn't it?
	Just remember we're talking about politicians here.
	And they always come up with some grand scheme that sounds wonderful.
	The communists had a great marketing plan as well.
	Uh Austria has fallen victim to a globalist and forced conformity.
	They even have a German word for it.
	And they have abandoned their sovereignty.
	Restoring that sovereignty is essential if Europe is to exist as an independent pole in a peaceful multipolar world.
	Europe is in the midst of cultural suicide, ruled by decadent liberal globalist elite that despises God and worships wealth.
	This elite promotes gender confusion, endless wars, and mass migration, while ignoring collapsing birth rates.
	And he says, Russia must be willing to aid in Europe's re-Christianization.
	I just don't uh think that they are the model that we need to see.
	And again, he talks about the uh freedom party that's there in Austria, how they were blocked after they won the election, and as we said before, in France, even as uh uh Le Pen's party um uh trashed them in the European elections and then the first round of the French elections, uh they gained even more votes.
	And in the second and final round of the French elections, they picked up even more support.
	So how was it that they crashed from first place to third place?
	It's because Macron and all these other political parties, regardless of what their stated political philosophy was, they agreed that they would look to see who in every region, they would say which of our parties has the strongest candidate, and we will have all the other parties drop out so that and and throw their support behind that candidate in order to oppose the National Party.
	That's the game that they played.
	Uh here in America we've only got two parties to start with, and these guys are playing the game of gerrymandering.
	So it operates a little bit differently here.
	And uh you're always going to have a winner in a two-party uh thing.
	So we don't we form our coalitions before the elections instead of after the elections.
	It is the uh political parties That are going to determine who the candidates are.
	That's why it was such a big deal when Mike Johnson went to this meeting with uh Jewish elites and said, we're going to police out people who are opposed to you out of the party.
	They can make sure that you don't win, and even if you run in a primary, they can uh utilize their forces to run everything against you.
	And that's the way it's done in the U.S. instead of done after the election with the coalition.
	Music The common man.
	They created common core to dumb down our children.
	They created common past to track and control us.
	Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing.
	and the communist future.
	They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary.
	Harry.
	But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God.
	That is what we have in common.
	That is what they want to take away.
	Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation.
	They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us.
	It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide.com.
	Thank you for listening.

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