you Well, the clock has struck 13 once again, and it is Tuesday, the 17th of June, year of our Lord, 2025.
I'm Tony Arterburn, filling in for the great David Knight, and of course, now Travis Knight.
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I'd say it's 12 and a half.
She's probably just a little bit heavier now because of treats.
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There's no woodland creatures in this office or studio.
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Well, headlines make my job easy.
Not that I enjoy the dystopia or the upside down or the quickening or whatever you want to call it, the soon-to-be singularity of neoconservative, luciferian ideology converging at once.
I remember something that the philosopher Plato wrote that only the dead had seen the end of war.
And that sticks with me because you'd like to push back against that.
You'd like to think that people learned lessons.
But the only lesson we learn from history is that we do not learn from history.
So I get to watch all of this stuff happen again.
I remember when I was a kid, I watched Oliver Stone's platoon.
And it's around 1987, so I think I was about seven years old.
And I watched Platoon.
That's for a young kid.
That's not a great movie.
But anyway, I watched it.
And I remember the end scene with Charlie Sheen.
There's that monologue going over the last credits about how they can never let this happen again, to tell their story.
Well, it happened again, and then it's going to happen again.
And it looks like it's just continuing this awful, satanic cycle of war.
But let's pray that it does, and maybe I'm wrong.
I like to think that there's been progress made on the anti-war front, and certainly 2016 was a big turnout for those who wanted America first.
Remember that?
We've lost our way.
MAGA kind of absorbed America first and destroyed the essence of it.
It took what I believed in, and this is something when I ran for Congress, A candidate that was like Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan, I believed in these principles.
And that cost me dearly, by the way.
I mean, the establishment hated that.
I mean, you talk about trade policies or bringing the troops home.
It's like showing a crucifix to a vampire.
They hated it.
And I was on the radio station.
The radio station hated it.
So it wasn't very popular.
But I think 2016, that really showed me that there was a lot of people out there that, And maybe they couldn't intellectualize it.
But that's in their heart and their gut.
They knew that something was wrong with living in the American Empire, not the American Republic.
But something happened.
And the way that politics hijacks good things sometimes, like you go back to the 19th century, we had the Populist Party.
A lot of people don't remember that.
We had a third party that was actually very powerful, and it got a lot of things done.
It was trending towards breaking up the duopoly between the Democrats and the Republicans, and then they took us to war in Spain.
So that was used for that, by the way, which was to reset the left-right paradigm, to get us back on track of infighting and this false choice between Left and right.
Looking at the headlines, folks, and we'll dive into that today.
I've got first hour, Just Be Me, and we'll go over some headlines together and a couple of articles that I picked out.
Second hour, I've got Charlie Robinson, host of Macroaggressions.
One of my good friends, he authored a book called The Octopus of Global Control.
He also said The Control Demolition of the American Empire, many other things.
He's got a great podcast.
And he's going to come on.
I've enjoyed his Twitter account the last couple of days.
He's on fire.
I want to talk to him about this stuff.
But that's just what's going to dominate the show today, unfortunately.
I've got a little bit of a look at warfare and then getting outside of the fiat system.
These are the two things that are in my wheelhouse.
And I'm going to do my best to make sense of it all for you.
Let's go to the first article.
What should we do?
Let's go to the headlines.
Look at Drudge, and then I'll take you from there.
We'll go to a couple of articles that break down what's happening.
Caitlin Johnston wrote a great article up on LewRockwell.com.
I definitely want to cover in this hour.
In the third hour, by the way, I would like to do with the chat, because unfortunately I wasn't able to get the kick stream up today.
Because I needed another sign-in code and I didn't want to bother Travis at like 6.30 in the morning.
But next time I host, I promise I'll have.
I have almost everything else up.
Next time I host, I'll have that up.
But on the third hour, I'd like to have an ask me anything.
I mean, ask me stuff that's in, you know, to talk about on the show.
I mean, ask me anything.
Within the realm of, you know, geopolitics, history, philosophy, whatever.
And if it's, you know, try to make it relevant to what is going on today.
If you can do that, we'll have a comment section.
I'll do that in the third hour.
Maybe Charlie will stay on for a little while.
But in the third hour, and we can cover that in the third.
So be ready in the third hour.
Hit the comments.
And if you want, I'm streaming over on my YouTube.
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So if you want to hit at Tony Arterburn on YouTube, you can join there and comment as well.
But I'll check the rumble for David.
Let's throw the headlines up.
Let's see what the intelligence agencies want me to talk about.
I do this because of what Sun Tzu admonished.
To know your enemy, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm not a fan of Drudge.
But it's got a nice radiation symbol in the nuclear biological in the left-hand corner.
Iran could resort to unconventional means of retaliation.
Nice headline to throw out there.
They're just leaving it there.
Even though they don't have a nuclear weapon, just leaving it there.
IDF underestimated military strength.
Oh, it's kind of like we did in Iraq War II, where Donald Rumsfeld thought that you could hold the country with 50,000 troops.
Bunker busting missiles shake faith and safety.
There's also a report of a.
Okay.
And of course, they throw around, just much like Lindsey Graham, resident stooge for Satan in the U.S. Senate, much like Lindsey Graham just throws out, you know, assassinating world leaders that hold nuclear weapons like he did to, I mean, I know we have short memories in the country, but do you remember, it wasn't that long ago, we had Lindsey Graham calling for the assassination of President Putin, of Russia.
They're psychotic.
And Netanyahu, same thing with the Ayatollah.
Just throwing that out there.
You know, just world leaders, you know, inside their own nations.
You aren't safe from the war machine that's been set up through Tuck, this is funny.
Yesterday I saw the Sebastian Gorka.
You know, Sebastian, he's just, let's see, what is he?
What would you define him as?
An establishment shill, a faux intellectual.
I don't want, it's just David Shills.
I don't want to dress Sebastian Gorka down too much.
But he's exhausting.
He has all these ideas that failed, gods that failed.
And he throws up this, and he's such a sycophant, too.
He throws up a post yesterday on Instagram, and I'm just doing this by memory.
He throws up this post, and he says, President Trump has spoken.
And it has something about it.
Kooky Tucker Carlson.
This is from Trump.
Kuki Tucker Carlson, somebody tell So this is what this next headline, Tucker Carlson conflict end of Trump's presidency, according to.
So, day five.
IDF drones hunt over Tehran.
Iran prepares largest strike.
G7 is split.
Trump leaves the summit.
And they ask the question, is USA officially going to join the war?
Well, it's hard not to see how we wouldn't, right?
You hope that some sort of rationality prevails.
It reminds me of the 13 Days movie, and Kevin Costner plays Kennedy's aide.
He just kind of breaks down and says, you know, maybe the sun will come up tomorrow and the goodwill will prevail, the will of good men.
I hope that's the case.
All right, let's X out of this, and I want to take you to kind of the fallout of what happened after these strikes and the tension, Trump leaving the G7 summit.
This kind of rhetoric, I don't know.
I mean, if you study history, it's not necessarily outside of the realm of precedence, as David calls precedent Trump.
But, you know, there was this offhand remark that, you know, Reagan had.
When he was warming up for Radio Free America, whatever he was doing, it was one of the radio broadcasts that the president does, and he didn't know he was being recorded.
He was just warming up and thought he was joking a little bit and said that he's outlawed Russia.
You can find the audio clips.
I've outlawed Russia, and the bombers are on their way.
it's just a joke um uh but you know you fast forward to our time and then you And that was prior to Gorbachev.
He never said that again.
Of course, by the end of the 80s, he's walking shoulder to shoulder with Gorbachev in Red Square, patting him on the back.
Epical moments.
The end of that decade was really staggering for peace, and there was a lot of hope.
There were things that could happen at the end.
Of course, that's all history.
And we can certainly go over that and what was lost, but this kind of rhetoric, you can decide for yourself what this means.
This is Trump.
Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran.
The apparent threat comes amid indications that the U.S. may begin bombing Iran directly.
And this is by Dave DeCamp over at antiwar.com.
President Trump on Monday appeared to threaten Iran, writing on his true social account that Iran should have signed a deal in calling for the immediate evacuation of Iranian capital of Tehran, a city of about 10 million people.
Iran should have signed the deal.
I told them to sign.
What a shame.
A waste of human life.
Simply stated, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
I said it over and over again.
Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran.
Well, you know, in an age of nuclear weapons and being the foremost, I don't know what you want to call us anymore, we're used to be, especially after the end of the Cold War, we were the lone superpower.
Maybe we're a superpower now, something like that.
We used to have, you know, the greatest, we used to be the greatest creditor nation.
We used to be a productive nation.
Now we're the greatest debtor and we import everything consumptive.
Consumption reminds me of the old Westerners.
He's got consumption.
Yeah, he's sick.
He made the threat while attending the G7 summit in Canada.
White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levine said after Trump's post that the president would be leaving the summit because of what's going on in the Middle East.
It's kind of interesting.
Why?
You can do everything.
From there, what do you need to do?
That's interesting.
What's going on in the Middle East?
I'll tell you how this doesn't even make sense, too.
I read that yesterday, and I thought, okay, so they're going back, and you've got Pete Hegseth making the rounds.
He's on Fox News, and everybody's kind of with bated breath, like, when are we going to hit?
There's a certain demographic, and I've learned this in being in so-called conservative talk radio.
There's a certain demographic of people that they target with the Fox News headlines, and they just love war.
They love the action of it.
They want to have embedded reporters.
They want to see Oliver North with a camera behind a bunch of Marines blowing up stuff.
They like that.
They like the bombs falling.
They love to call into shows.
I know this, by the way.
I mean, I know this firsthand because I would follow Mark Levin.
My show followed Mark Levin.
It's a station that no longer exists in San Antonio, but I would go there every evening.
And I would have the same people listening, but I would throw on the phone lines.
I'd open up with something like this, talking about the neocon.
They didn't understand what I'm saying.
They were like, when are you going to talk about bombing Iran?
Seriously.
And that's what they called in about.
They're very animated by it.
And Pete Hegseth, he really highlights that.
U.S. officials have denied rumors that the U.S. began striking Iran and have said that the U.S. remains in a defensive posture in the Middle East.
Trump's post came after Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said that he ordered the deployment of additional U.S. capabilities to the Middle East.
U.S. officials confirmed that a massive deployment tanker aircraft was related to the Israel-Iran war.
The first casualty of war is the truth.
How did this even start?
Well, I mean, if you're watching Fox News, then you don't know.
You have Caitlyn Jenner, you know, or Bruce or whatever.
He's having a sipping wine in a bunker praising Trump and Netanyahu in Israel.
It's kind of the clown world thing that we're in now.
Because nobody really knows.
Like, well, we're going to get these terrorists.
I'm like, Israel bombed Iran.
Of course, soon, if this kicks off and accelerates enough, you won't even hear from people like me.
I won't even be able to broadcast because of the 1917 Espionage Act.
Woodrow Wilson threw people in jail because they criticized World War I. A great war.
You know, World War I, one of those wars that really helped us, if you can ever find anybody who can even explain it to you, because you can't, I promise.
I mean, they'll try, but they just can't.
It's just a bloodletting.
It was a ritualistic banker's war.
Sources familiar with the matter have told Antiwar.com editorial director Scott Horton that the Trump administration is poised to enter Israel's aggressive war against Iran directly by launching airstrikes, which will almost certainly provoke attacks on U.S. bases in the region.
Which is, yeah, if you do X, then Y will happen.
I think cause and effect.
And they know that, by the way.
1,000%.
They know that.
Which would be escalation.
We'll take a lot of pressure.
You know, war hides a lot.
You can hide a lot of things in war.
You can hide the fact that you've neglected your own people, your infrastructure.
America is decaying and you can't drink the water in a lot of these places, or the rail lines are 80 years behind, or the airports are broken down and the highways are always being worked on, and veterans are this massive amount of...
Kids going to sleep hungry at night.
You have an entire generation of young men have given up in areas like the Rust Belt that are on drugs and other things because we pawned America's soul.
We don't have living wage jobs.
We just have a Mitt Romney style venture vulture capitalist economy.
Thank you.
Israel started bombing Iran on Friday, two days before the U.S. and Iran were due to hold another round of nuclear negotiations.
Trump had been demanding Iran eliminate its nuclear weapons program, which was a non-starter for Tehran.
Despite the apparent impasse, Iran was set to present a counter-proposal to the U.S., but the talks were canceled after Israel launched its war.
That's a great line.
It launched its war.
This is Israel's war.
They started it.
They should finish it.
And we should let them do that.
We've been fighting for them for decades.
It's funny, you know, the Israeli lobby pushed real hard to get us into both Iraq wars.
That got Pat Buchanan in trouble, you know.
Said famously on the McLaughlin Group back in the early 90s, like 1990, that the only people that supported the Gulf War were, I think, the contractors in the Amen corner at AIPAC.
That was considered, like, really controversial.
You're not even supposed to mention AIPAC, the American-Israeli Political Action Committee.
You're not supposed to mention that.
That's, wow, you're fringe that you recognize something.
They pushed really hard for that.
I never saw an Israeli troop, though.
Not one, ever.
Ever.
But they definitely wanted that, toppling.
It's good for them.
And they have a right to do that.
They have a right to try to get whatever happened to benefit their nation.
So do we.
We don't do that.
Our leaders don't really steer our country that way.
It'd be nice, but we really don't look out for the interests of the United States that way.
The way that Israelis do.
I mean, they put themselves, at least their perceived benefit, way before others.
And good on them.
And we should have the ability to call that out and say, yeah, that's not how this country is supposed to work.
You'll get labeled something else.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu launched the war under the pretext of stopping Iran from developing a nuclear bomb.
This is 2025, right?
I've been watching him say that since the 90s.
But it has been the consensus of the U.S. intelligence community that there was no evidence Tehran was working toward a nuclear weapon.
Yeah, that seems to be the consensus because that's true.
It's for this fact.
And the whole thing about...
Can you really blame any country?
What's the lesson learned from the Iraq war or from Libya or Syria?
What's the lesson learned?
What do we teach?
We teach, if you don't have the bomb, we're going to do this to you.
You're going to get regime change.
You're going to be invaded.
You're going to be defiled.
If you do have the bomb, well, then you're North Korea.
Saddam didn't have the bomb.
As a matter of fact, the Israelis blew up his nuclear reactor he was working with.
The French is called OSIRIC.
It's back in the early 80s.
just blew it up using American-made fighter aircraft.
Thank you.
And, you know, we wonder, like, why do they hate us?
You have these occupied territories, you know, by the Israelis and flying over in American-made helicopter gunships.
You know, there's an association there.
Interesting.
I got some comments over on my YouTube from Jim Nike.
I'm hoping I'm saying that right.
Trump has put himself in an inescapable trap.
If he backs Israel, American blood will be spilled and MAGA will turn on him.
If he doesn't back Israel, the Zionists will turn on him.
I think the calculated bet there, and I think you've made a great point.
I think the calculated risk on his part is you've got to look where the money and the influence comes from.
I don't think that MAGA really, or whatever that means now, it's been so diluted.
It's kind of like the Tea Party movement.
By the way, the Tea Party movement was started by Ron Paul.
It was started on December 16, 2007, I remember.
And that's when he raised more money, I think, in one single day than any presidential candidate in history from regular people.
From actual human beings that, you know, he ran on peace and prosperity and liberty.
And that was a great day.
I remember it.
And that's what the Tea Party was founded on.
And then as time went on, it became, as you know, you get the Koch brothers involved and you got others that use that as a, because again, principle has to be backed up by something.
That's why.
You know, good on them, like the Catholics are very much, I went to a private Catholic university after I was out of the army called the University of Dallas.
Very prestigious school.
I studied philosophy for a couple years and I loved it.
It's a very expensive book club.
But they welcome, you know, debate on their faith and everything else and I thought that was good.
You can't do that really in a grassroots movement anymore because it's hard for them to defend it.
So the principles get changed from the top.
It's very fluid.
And I remember by the time I ran for Congress, it was like a lot of the principles that Ron Paul had talked about got lost because you would see people, this Tea Party movement would be flying an Israeli flag.
And I'd go, now wait a minute.
That's not what the Tea Party movement was for.
You carrying that flag also represents foreign aid.
It represents interventionism.
It intervenes militarism.
bloated everything, right?
The antithesis Or get your government hands off my Medicaid, stuff like that.
It just got diluted.
And so I think that's what's happened to whatever MAGA is.
And there's a lot of great people.
I think their heart's in the right place.
But unfortunately, that's what politics will do.
I mean, it just takes...
She wasn't much older than me, but she's been in the game a long, long time.
She's very smart, and she told me, don't do this.
Just get into what you want to do.
Start a PAC or a non-profit.
Talk about what you want.
Push the ideas, but stay out of this arena, because it's just where ideas go to die.
Really, she was right about that.
And I remember that lunch.
She was like, if you could just stick to the ideas, like stick to radio, stick to things, like push the ideas, but stay out of this thing.
And she was right.
We'll see.
And that comment was from the Lazarus man.
Thank you, Lazarus man.
All right.
I'm going to go to the rumble chat and check on what's going on over there.
And then we got an article by.
Caitlin Johnston.
I may get to...
I will harp on war, won't I?
Such an honor to be filling in for David, too.
And I got a text in back.
I got a text from him yesterday.
Love the audience.
Love you guys.
Let's check on Rumble.
Hold on a second.
Whenever I click on that, I have my little voice coming back to me.
Let's see.
Trucker Chris FTW.
I followed Caitlin Johnston on Twitter before I was banned this past weekend.
Well, you might have been banned for following her.
Great.
She's got a lot of great articles.
I don't always agree with her, but I think she's definitely a sound thinker.
Yeah, remember the Liberty.
Yes, sending our 53-year-old aircraft carrier out to be sunk by Iran.
Right, sunk by Iran.
We'll talk to Charlie Robinson in the next hour.
He's got something to say about that.
Let's see.
Let's see.
You guys have a lot of chat over here.
I take that for granted.
I'm building, if you want to follow me, I'm on Rumble.
I'm not live right now, but I'm over on the America Unplugged channel.
And I have the Arterburn Radio transmission.
I do every Thursday at 11 a.m. Central Time, 12 Eastern.
KWD68 says MAGA will support Trump until the last bomb falls.
Yes, they will.
Whatever that means to you, whatever MAGA means.
But it's the base.
He'll have outliers.
I don't think Tucker Carlson's going to refit back into the whatever mold.
I think he's kind of gone a certain way, and that's a journey.
I think he understands, if you look at the trend of journalism, media, whatever it means to you, that the old ways and the legacy ways are gone, the establishment, all of this stuff, traditional foreign policy, all of that is not the trend for the future.
Yeah, Gardner Goldsmith, the great Gard Goldsmith.
Trump is going to make it.
Impossible for other national leaders to enter negotiations with the U.S. Yes, he will.
Always great to hear from Gard.
Gard's got to be hosting sometime this week.
You guys stay tuned for him.
He's got to be back here.
Let's talk a little finance.
I'll leave the Caitlin Johnston article.
I definitely want to spend some time on it, and I realized I went a little long on the Trump piece about evacuating Tehran.
We'll talk a little finance.
And this is what I was going to bring up earlier.
So the rest of the world and, you know, the...
But they decided, as of yesterday, before Trump left the G7, okay, so this is interesting, that they felt like the war between Israel and Iran was contained geographically between those two nations.
Interesting, because the price of gold reflects that.
But then you have Pete Hegseth.
This is what I was going to segue into, but I get sometimes lost in the stream of consciousness.
Then you get Pete.
He's jumping on Fox News.
We're ramping things up.
We're sending things over.
Why are they doing that when the rest of the world feels like it's contained geographically?
These are the little tells, right?
These are things that I watch.
I'm like, well, the rest of the world, you know, finance it.
Well, this looks like it's contained.
Looks like it's proportional.
And this is from Kitco.
Middle East chaos won't drive gold prices to $4,000, but this will.
It's the Bank of America.
Gold prices have fallen back below $3,400 an ounce as the conflict between Israel and Iran has not seen regional escalation.
But while the precious metal continues its broader consolidation, commodity analysts at Bank of America say it still has a path to $4,000 an ounce.
In its latest report, the bank's precious metals team, led by Michael Weidner, stated that gold retains significant upside potential as investment demand has only just begun to grow.
However, the analysts also cautioned that the chaos in the Middle East So this is the analysis from traders and things like within the last 48 hours.
Somehow, but our government's ramping things up.
Interesting, isn't it?
Although gold is a popular safe haven asset, historically, Event-induced demand has never proven to be sustainable.
Some analysts note that gold is facing selling pressure at the start of the week as the conflict has not impacted global oil supplies, an event that would typically drive oil prices higher, influencing inflation and global economic growth.
yeah I checked the price that's the first thing I checked this morning was the price accrued it's actually down just a little bit and I have a good friend of mine who's in the Middle East right now works for a A large oil company has been an executive there for years.
We talk energy sometimes.
And we're talking both about the straight-of-whore moves.
I remember talking to my dad about that 25 years ago.
That's always been the play.
And maybe this has always been the war plans.
Maybe this is like our version, the West, the neocons and that alliance between the establishment.
That's what the Germans had in World War I. They worked on it for years and years.
At the Franco-Prussian War after the 1870s, they worked on this plan to invade France through Belgium and mobilize all the troops, especially after the advent of modern troop transports and things like that.
They had the von Schlieffen plan.
Maybe this is just playing out because I've been hearing about this for my whole life.
What was going to happen if Israel was attacked?
Spoiler alert, they started it, right?
When it comes to gold, Wars are not always a clear-cut bullish price driver, the analyst said.
The conflict adds, however, to the confluence of factors that have been supportive for the yellow metal.
Rather than focusing on specific geopolitical events, Bank of America analysts are monitoring the broader economic landscape and gold's growing appeal as the important global monetary asset.
Well, they're right.
And it hasn't really done anything.
Gold had its all-time high, again, a month ago or so.
It was $3,500 an ounce.
And the silver was at $35 an ounce.
So it's 100 to 1 on the silver to gold ratio.
So this really hasn't, not yet.
And, you know, there are some terrible ifs out there if you have the outliers or the Let's hope that doesn't happen.
But all the fundamentals are still there.
Of course, gold is poised to go to $4,000 an ounce.
It's poised to go to whatever number you can conceive.
It will go up in terms of dollars.
That's just math.
I mean, that doesn't mean you're a genius trader.
It just means that you understand that fiat is fake.
And it's, fiat has no bottom, and gold and silver and Bitcoin have no top.
So, you know, on a long enough timeline, it's like Zero Hedge, you know, quoting Fight Club, on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everything drops to zero.
This comes as the U.S. government debt continues to grow at an unsustainable pace.
Bank of America noted that gold is attracting new interest as Congress debates a new spending bill that aims to cut taxes, which is expected to increase the deficit by trillions of dollars.
That's not really what increases.
It's not the tax cuts that increase the deficit by trillions of dollars.
It's the trillions of dollars that we print.
It's the trillions of dollars that we borrow.
You could have no income tax.
Just have some tariffs and some consumption tax.
You could do that.
You could dismantle the...
You don't need, what, 700 bases in 132 countries.
You don't need that.
It's definitely not for American security.
Market concerns over fiscal sustainability are unlikely to fade, regardless of the outcome of Senate negotiations, the analyst said.
Rate, volatility, and a weaker U.S. dollar should keep gold supported, especially if the U.S. Treasury or the Feds is ultimately forced to step in and support markets.
Yeah, we've got less than a year, and it looks like Jerome Powell.
Trump will be replaced.
Trump will look to be hawkish.
Hawkish for rate cuts.
That's the opposite of what the Fed is.
I think he'll be looking to rev that engine, do those rate cuts, and maybe drop them to zero.
Who knows?
Because it'll be just on the heels coming up on the election cycle.
So there'll be a lot going on there, ladies and gents, and that's going to drive, you talk about, I think that's going to drive prices crazy.
It depends on what happens between now and then, too, with geopolitically.
Although gold appears a little crowded as prices have consolidated elevated levels, Bank of America believes it still has room to grow.
Thank you.
Yeah, we're still going to be, and they said the, They expect gold between $3,000 and $3,500 an ounce just normally.
Says the final supportive factor for gold is the broadening rally in the precious metals sector.
As silver and platinum have attracted new bullish momentum.
Well, you know why, though?
Silver and platinum have been outliers for a long time.
Especially platinum.
People started ordering some platinum from me recently.
I've sold it over the years.
One customer, I won't say his name, this has been a few years, had a very large IRA rollover.
He did like, I'm saying large.
He did like 30% in platinum.
And I thought, really?
But he bought one ounce Canadian platinum coins.
So sovereigns.
And he's done well.
I was looking at his charts the other day just because I keep records of everything.
I thought, wow, that was a good trade.
Like the whole thing.
Because he just bought physical precious metals with his IRA.
So he had a whole bunch of paper.
And put it all into some great products.
And that's all stored in a vault.
So he's got physical precious metals.
You guys, not that I...
If you want to roll over paper assets, especially if you're looking at the actual metrics like me, if you want to roll over paper assets into something, you call me.
Go to davidknight.gold and reach out and we'll take a look at what you got.
I promise I won't plug that much.
I'm not really a plug guy, but that just made me think of that because those are outliers for a reason.
Gold and silver, I mean, we talk about gold like they just go together that way, but silver is starting to do its own thing.
Contracts that got called, there's other physical issues with the above-ground supply, and it's finally having, it's like, if you notice, gold went in the red from yesterday, went over $3,400 an ounce and down below that.
So let's see what the price is right now.
But I'll just give you an example.
Yeah.
As I was talking, silver broke $37 an ounce.
It's $37 an ounce and two cents.
Gold was at $3,400 plus, and it's down under $3,400, $3,394.
So it's down about a point from opening this morning.
So they're going in different directions.
Silver is becoming its own market again, which is great.
And I think it's just the beginning of something.
And the reason why, and it's like the fundamentals in that article, like the geopolitical tensions can drive something.
It's like if you're a day trader, that's something you really want to watch.
But if you're long-term like me, and that's just what you're going to be in, you start looking at these trends for accumulation.
And silver is being added as a strategic reserve asset, places like Russia.
Other countries, multinationals, they're starting to move into it because it's affordable, it's real, you can store it, it's a commodity, it's industrial metal, all that stuff.
So is platinum.
Platinum has the same properties and it's been kind of an outlier and it hasn't done much.
But that is, I think, a trend that you'll start to see.
An upward trend in pricing because of what's happening with the dollar.
It's just another one of those commodities.
I saw something.
We'll see if we can get to it.
I want to keep this Caitlin Johnson article.
It was something that I think you're going to see a growing trend.
I try to just bring you the trends.
I'm only on ever so often.
Maybe some more on gold and Bitcoin.
But it's something to watch.
A lot of what's happening right now, a lot of these multinationals and big companies are starting to become Bitcoin treasuries.
And there's one that I saw that I thought, well, that's new.
And it's just a trend you're going to need to watch.
There's all these companies that are starting Bitcoin treasuries.
They started with MicroStrategies with Michael Saylor.
And that became a very profitable deal.
He raised capital through stocks and they'd buy Bitcoin and put it on the balance sheet.
And these other companies started to do that.
Actually, a couple of the Trumps were involved in that.
But this is something different.
One more comment from the Lazarus man.
I believe Trump's biggest concern is how he's going to have all his supporters remember him as a rich and powerful leader who is surrounded by beautiful women.
Yeah, something like that.
Like, you know, the same concern that Cicero had.
We live in interesting times, which is the Chinese curse.
We live in interesting times.
It's also really stupid.
It is idiocracy.
is dangerous and that's what I'll have my mind in whatever timeline.
That's how my mind works.
It's kind of weird.
Whenever I read something, I kind of think in timelines.
And, like, I'll put myself there.
And, like, I'd want to see how I would react with these characters or whatever, especially if you're, like, talking about the beginning of the 20th century, And one of the things that I've always noticed about that time is how brilliant people were.
I mean, they speak several languages.
They were masters of their craft.
I mean, it was just a different time.
If you went to travel then, it's kind of like in the 1960s, you show up to the airport with a suit on.
Now you go and people just walk around with buckets of Coke and like everybody's dressed like, like they're going to bed or something.
It's just, you know, So it's like, wow, what are we going to do?
Let me jump over to this article, and we've got just a little bit of time.
But this is a trend.
I want you to pay attention to stuff like this.
It's not just me touting my businesses.
There's something to this.
If you're looking in the realm of finance, And it's not just about investing.
The reason I bring these articles to your attention is because this is the global shift of the monetary system, which is a revolution of money.
And that's going to mean everything to domestic policy in the United States, to foreign policy, everything.
It's all tied in together.
And so you see, it starts with what's considered, we don't have a free market anymore, but the market, it starts there.
And then you start seeing these trends.
And it's de-dollarization by companies, not just governments.
Let me put this up on the screen.
This was on Zero Hedge.
It just caught my attention.
It says the UK gold mining company, Bluebird, is to convert revenues into Bitcoin.
Bluebird Mining Ventures LTD, a pan-Asian gold project development company, recently announced a major strategic shift.
It plans to convert future revenues from its gold mining projects into Bitcoin and adopt Bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset.
See, that's key there.
I listen to a lot of Bitcoin podcasts.
I listen to as many gold ones as I can.
Before the end of the show, I'll let you know, and I'll get the links today, but I'm starting a new show.
It'll be something I haven't done before.
We're going to do it every week, and we're going to have a newsletter with it.
So stand by.
That's going to be like in the next 30 days, I'll have it locked in, dialed in.
But we're going to talk about this kind of stuff.
And I've been following these podcasts.
And what I'm finding is a lot of these big companies are starting to become Bitcoin treasury companies, which, again, it's not me talking about Bitcoin.
It's the move away from the dollar, folks.
So this is all happening inside of the Great Reset.
This is by Oscar Zaraj Perez via BitcoinMagazine.com, by the way.
They put out a tweet, strategy shift to convert gold into digital gold.
Combining income streams from gold mining projects and recycling these revenues into a proactive Bitcoin in treasury management.
By adopting a gold plus a digital gold strategy, it offers the company an opportunity to turn the page and look into the futures to seek to attract a new type of shareholder.
And that's what I've been saying for a long time.
I mean, some people can be really myopic.
And maybe you don't like Bitcoin.
You don't have to.
I look at it from the standpoint of what it's supposed to represent.
And that is, in a sea of infinite fiat, it's finite.
It's the same thing with gold and silver.
And if you look at the actual charts of how much supposed wealth there is in the world, it's not as much as they say there is.
It's probably, like they say, it could be $1,000 trillion or whatever, $500 trillion.
Who really knows?
Exactly how much, but it's a wash in fiat currency.
The market cap of gold is like $20 trillion.
So 20 out of hundreds?
And that represents all the what would be considered money in the world, because in everything else, gold is money.
Everything else is debt.
Everything else is, like JP Morgan said, is credit.
The market cap of Bitcoin is like $2 trillion.
So gold's at $20.
Bitcoin's at like $2.
And that's nothing in the scheme of things.
So this is stuff to watch because the world, and even starting with companies, is shifting away from the fiat system.
And that's where the revolution's taking place.
That's why I bring it up.
The announcement comes as Bluebird.
Progresses towards a key agreement on a flagship Philippine project.
So much mining going on, too.
It's another thing with gold mining.
There's a junior miner.
There's so many projects happening right now.
And I think you want to see, you should start paying attention to what's going on with silver.
Because silver, a lot of the silver mining companies, like there's so few of them because it hasn't been profitable because of the...
But I would look at that.
That's a trend because a lot of the silver that's mined just comes from gold mining companies that go out and find silver just because they're mining for gold or mining for zinc or mining for copper or whatever.
And they pull it out of the ground.
If you have some silver, they'll refine that too.
It's going to become profitable again to mine silver.
These companies will be popping up.
Mining will be a big thing because it's a race for commodities, ladies and gentlemen.
Bluebird plans to recycle revenues from its mining operations directly into Bitcoin, aligned with what it describes as an innovative treasury approach.
Let's see, this is not just them.
Whole host of companies that are just putting Bitcoin on their balance sheet.
Why would they do that?
There's a lot of stuff coming out.
It's back in January of 24 when BlackRock announced the ETF.
I said, watch this.
I think Bitcoin was trading at $29,000 or whatever it was.
It was low compared to what it is now.
But that's what drove that price.
Thank you.
Combining income streams from gold mining projects and recycling these revenues into a proactive Bitcoin and treasury management approach.
So there's two things.
They're pulling gold out of the ground.
it's slowly becoming recognized again as the world's reserve currency which will change everything and I think at the end of the day like they have to have run you know you have the
They have that setup, that simulation, but they also have to run the simulation.
If we wanted to have a functioning world, how do we do that?
You have to reset from fiat.
And those who have used fake money to accumulate assets would be sitting in the best position.
So you'd have to, if you reset the dollar to gold, it's estimated that Because then you have to have lawmakers who understand law and math.
You wouldn't just be able to print like we have been.
You'd have to go back to budget constraints and there'd be debates on that.
They don't even know how to do that anymore.
It's Hollywood for ugly people at this point.
But if you did, it's estimated gold would be minimum $10,000 an ounce if you reset it.
Which I'm not even for, by the way.
You could do something different.
Maybe just have governments not be in the currency business.
That would be great.
That's a utopia, right?
That's never going to happen.
But I always like to ask why.
Why do you do that?
I don't need you.
We already have, but we know what our money's worth.
If you deal in gold, silver, or Bitcoin, you can look and see.
Private institutions do much better at that.
I should be expecting Charlie Robinson any minute.
Let's go check out Charlie's Twitter.
There he is.
I'm going to pull Charlie in real quick.
All right, this is my friend, Charlie Robinson, macroaggressions fame.
Welcome back to the David Knight Show, sir.
Thanks for having me.
Are we reading Zero Hedge?
We were reading Zero Hedge.
I had an article up, there's a Blooper.
Yes.
I've got it set to go up today on Activist Post.
Yes.
I wanted to mention Activist Post.
I was just pulling your Twitter up.
I had a bit of a run yesterday, the last two days.
I never get any traction on that site.
I'm talking to myself as far as I'm concerned.
I did make a kind of offhanded comment that when they were moving the Nimitz, I said it looks like they're positioning the false flag or they're moving the false flag piece into that one right there.
1.4 million views and 48,000 likes.
I've never had that before.
My favorite is the comments.
Did you read the comments?
Every single one of them.
As far as I could see, and I didn't read every single one of them, but almost everyone I saw was like, yup, uh-huh, it's coming.
There wasn't a single person going, oh, you're crazy.
Get out of here with this stuff.
They were all like, yeah, I could see that happening.
I mean, once you know the playbook, it's like football.
Once you know the plays the other team runs and they line up in that formation, you go, I know what's coming next.
Based on the game film I've been watching.
And we've been watching Israeli game film for a long time.
We know how this works.
We know how they operate.
By way of deception, thou shalt do war.
So expect covert means.
Expect some sort of false flag.
Expect something.
It may not be the Nimitz.
It may happen in Nebraska.
It may be one of those situations where it's easy to dismiss.
Americans aren't going to get all riled up into wanting to go into World War III if something happens in the Red Sea or someplace.
But if it happens in Kentucky or Arizona or someplace that you're not expecting it, then it sends the message that if it could happen in this small town Americana, then it could happen anywhere.
And if it can happen anywhere, then everybody needs to be afraid.
I was thinking on my way into the studio this morning about For some reason, the movie Patton popped into my head, and George C. Scott, and it has that scene where he's going to fight Rommel for the first time, and he'd been studying Rommel.
So he actually read Rommel's book on tank tactics, and then he's excited because he has this small skirmish, defeats him, and says, you magnificent SOB, I read your book!
It's kind of like where we are now.
You're so right.
I mean, it seems like they run the same play.
And it is like the world, by the way, like rational, I say semi-rational people, but markets, I was talking about this earlier, Charlie, markets already anticipated that they're like, okay, we see the back and forth between Israel and Iran.
We see this is geographically contained.
So the price of gold pulls back because they're like, well, nothing else here.
This will burn itself out.
It's geographically contained.
Meanwhile, the Trump administration, he's rushing back from the G7.
You got Pete Hegseth going on all hands on deck for Fox News hyperventilation.
And you're going, so wait a minute.
What are you doing?
And then you have all the talking heads and the sycophants for the military-industrial complex are already saying, look out for terror attacks here, which has nothing to do with what's actually happening there.
Yeah.
Speaking of knowing the Israeli play, in my Octopus book, I wrote a chapter called Student Body Right.
And Student Body Right is an old play, an old football play that the USC Trojans used to run in the late 60s when they had OJ Simpson as their running back.
We won't get into what OJ wound up doing in the future.
But the play was, hand off the ball to OJ.
Pull your tackles.
Pull everybody and run everybody off to the right-hand side.
Everybody's going to block.
We're going to call it student body right.
The entire student body is running to the right side.
We're going to block.
OJ's going to run.
It's an unstoppable play.
The reason why I named that chapter student body right with regard to Israel was because they run the same play over and over again.
If it's unstoppable, they will run it until somebody proves that they can stop it.
I wrote that in the context of calling everybody anti-Semitic and labeling the Jewish people as victims constantly.
Constantly the victim.
And how they prey on your emotions to get you to feel guilty for not standing with Israel enough or talking about the Holocaust enough or whatever it is.
Whatever the thing is that they want you to do, they have a tactic that they run over and over again.
It's guilt.
And shame in trying to make people feel like they're anti-Semites if they don't properly support this terrorist regime in the Middle East that's infiltrated the United States government and has affected our foreign policy for the last 60 years.
So the tactic when it comes to false flags is the same.
I mean, how many times do people need to watch the dancing Israelis on Israeli television talk about, we were there to document the event?
Why were you there to document it?
Did you get lucky?
Did you get a fortune cookie that told you to go document the event?
Or were you involved in it?
Of course, the answer, we know who was involved in 9-11.
We know.
It wasn't just the Bush administration and those lunatics.
They had help.
And so when they start talking about wanting to draw us into an unpopular war, just go to the playbook.
And the playbook says, look for a false flag to be blamed on their enemy.
Osama bin Laden in the early 90s, whatever, to kick off this war in the Middle East, this seven countries in five years.
And of course, Iran has been on the drawing board forever.
And the United States and Israel have been looking for an excuse to do it.
So you just work backwards.
And I think what has changed in the last, I don't know, maybe decade or so, is that it used to be that the American people, by default, would think, oh, We, the people, don't want war.
So therefore, our government doesn't want war.
So they're trying to keep us out of this potential war.
But things keep happening.
We keep getting drawn in.
No, no.
You don't want war.
I don't want war.
Our government wants war.
They want World War III.
They're not trying to figure out how to not get in it.
They're going to the Patrick Clausen quote.
I, frankly, find it hard to figure out how our president is going to get us to war with Iran.
Not get us out of a war with Iran.
Get us to war with Iran.
So we have to change our thinking.
We can't export our mentality or our morality onto the government, onto the United States government.
That's insane.
They don't want the same things we want.
We want peace.
They want war.
So instead, once people start to look at this as they want us to get into a war and work backwards, how would we do that?
The American people galvanized to go fight this.
It'd have to be like planes flying into buildings in New York City or something like that.
And so you go, okay, well, is Iran going to do that and give us the justification to start this war?
Of course not.
Have they done that before?
No, the Israelis have plenty of times.
Have the Iranians?
No.
They always get blamed for stuff like this.
So I just open my playbook and say, What will happen is the Iranians will not conduct a terrorist attack against the United States, but that doesn't mean one won't happen and be blamed on them.
The Israelis will because, you know, they do that.
They talk openly about it.
They're the ones that want it.
If you were investigating a crime, a murder, and you dragged all these people down to the police station, you would say, who has motive and opportunity?
Who wants this more than any?
Qui bono?
Who benefits?
The Israelis.
They need this.
What would you do if you were Iran?
Would you take a big stick and whack the hornet's nest of the United States?
Of course not.
But that doesn't mean it won't happen.
And maybe, Tony, maybe it's not something that happens in the U.S., like on our homeland, though I think it may be.
What if it's that just all of a sudden our military bases that are in Iraq and Syria, what if they just up and blow?
What if Diego Garcia gets turned into a parking lot?
Then what?
You know, then we're in from a military standpoint.
You know, it might not have the general public support for it, but, you know, the media will work 24-7.
The new mainstream alternative media will be talking about when do we start World War III?
Tomorrow, next week, the next month.
I mean, there'll never be an off-ramp to like, let's not do this.
So I'm very concerned about the situation that we're in now because there are...
And then on top of all, you and I have had plenty of conversations about money, hard money, the economy, fiat currencies, things like that.
Let's also not forget about the impending economic collapse that needs to be papered over and covered up before it happens.
And what better way to do that than to distract everybody on their televisions with war and also give the printing press the justification to go berserk and start Printing money to try and paper over this collapse that's coming.
I totally agree with you.
The entire synopsis, because we're being led to it, and it's Kubono.
You look at who benefits.
It's amazing historically, and not that Iran's a great nation or something that I want to live there, but if you look how restrained they've been, you go back to our intervention.
Operation Ajax in the early 1950s and the overthrow of Mosaddegh and installation of the Shah and everything else.
And it was supposed, like at the time, General George Marshall opposed the recognition of Israel.
I think that would drive a wedge between Iran and the West.
Even back then, that's what the thinking was.
And it certainly did.
But we kept intervening, doing the overthrowing, put in the Shah.
That led to the 1979 revolution and really the start of modern day what you would perceive as Islamic radicalism.
I mean, that's Shia, but that's the beginning of, of course, 1979, the same year that we recruit Tim Osmond, the head of Al-Qaeda, to kill Russians in Afghanistan for us, and that's Osama bin Laden, for those who don't know.
And so that's a big radicalization point there.
But they call Iran the largest exporter of terrorism in the world, and I'm watching them get hit preemptively.
This is a preemptive strike.
That is not a just war strategy.
That's not coming from a moral superiority.
It's not the St. Augustine's just war synopsis.
This is something totally different, very Third Reich-ish, if you ask me.
I don't know.
The definition of largest exporter of terror in the world is laughable at this point.
What's the latest from Assad?
How's Qaddafi doing?
How's Saddam Hussein right now?
We gave Saddam Hussein the gas to take on, and gas used chemical weapons against the Iranians in the 1980s.
So there's a lot of data there, so they're pretty restrained as far as we've been everywhere since then, and invading and bombing, and the Israelis too.
When has Iran done a preemptive strike on someone else's nuclear facility?
Never.
It's all, as we rightly recognize, it's all classic projection from the American empire and the Israeli...
Terrorist ethnostate.
They're the ones doing this.
And accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of.
This is just classic psychopathy.
It's projection.
It's every speech Hillary Clinton has ever given.
I mean, it's frustrating.
But the thing is, once you learn the language and you decipher how this works and you start And the Toastmasters, the thumb on that.
We've got to start.
You watch these things and you go, okay, I'm getting neurolinguistic programming here.
I'm getting classic psychopathy.
I'm getting projection of the utmost degree.
I'm getting appeals to authority.
I mean, like you could just go through the checklist and when you watch these speeches.
In fact, a great...
They start freeze-framing what they're talking about and pointing out Barnum statement.
We're all in this together.
You watch the speeches and there's two versions.
There's the words that are coming out of the person's mouth and then there's the translation.
If you were the sign language person, the sign language person would be giving you a much different translation.
It's like, oh, this lady's crazy.
This lady's accusing the enemy of things that they're about to do.
You know, talking about Iran is about to kick off terrorism in the West and everything.
No, no.
Okay, so what does that mean when I hear the Israeli government talking about how Iran is going to kick off terrorism inside America?
I've run that through my filter.
My translation is, oh, we, the Israelis, are about to do a false flag in America to drag you into war.
Oh, that's, you know, they're our greatest ally.
They're our greatest ally.
We'll reexamine that.
Run that through your BS detector, please, everybody.
Go back and look.
Let's talk about the Liberty.
Let's talk about a variety of things.
Let's talk about the King David Hotel.
Let's talk about Menachem Begin, one of the founders of the state of Israel, being described by somebody as an international terrorist.
And he corrects them and says, no, I am the godfather of international terrorism.
You go, was he misquoted?
No, he felt he was misquoted when he was only called just an international terrorist.
He wants to be known as the godfather.
They go, this is the guy who started your country.
This was one of your first prime ministers.
This is the guy who set the mood for it.
This is a guy who was involved in bombing hotels.
So, you know, excuse me.
If I don't just get on my knees for our greatest ally, because our greatest ally has been a parasite on this country, has been destroying America from the inside for a very long time.
And I think that a segment of the general public is starting to wake up to this.
And 9-11 didn't do it because a lot of people couldn't.
Figure out the fingerprints.
And they got wrapped up into, you know, the patriotism and the songs and America and all this stuff that was going on.
And we saw what happened to the Dixie Chicks and anybody that stood up and said, well, I have questions about maybe us going into Iraq.
You are anti-American, right?
And all that stuff.
I don't know if those tactics are going to work this time around.
I think a lot of people have seen through this.
And I think, you know, I mean, it's evidenced by my...
Yes, we see this as a possibility.
This isn't crazy conspiracy theory, although it is technically a theory, I suppose, but it's not crazy.
It's just connecting dots.
It's looking at history.
It's pattern recognition.
It's knowing your enemy.
It's knowing your allies.
It's knowing a lot of things.
And so I wonder.
I wonder if they're going to have the ability with a defunct mainstream media that's lost its touch and has zero credibility.
I wonder if they can really sell another unpopular Middle East war these days because the next time Netanyahu starts talking about anything, is this babies in the incubator or is this yellow cake uranium?
Because I'm getting confused as to which...
But I know it's a lie.
I'm not sure if Rand Corporation wrote it for you or if it was coming out of some Hill& Knowlton PR firm that's writing this.
Which one?
Because we're not getting the truth.
I think we're aware of that.
And to sit by and cheerlead America into World War III, I think is disgusting and we should want no part in it.
1,000%.
Historically, you talk about the difference between this 2001 and now as far as culture.
There's a gap.
There's a vastness of the difference between the consciousness.
I talked about partisanship and stupidity this morning, the blending of things, like what happened to the Tea Party movement.
I saw what that, because originally it was Ron Paul's, and it was real, and it was substantive, and then it turned into whatever, kind of a clown world version, funhouse mirror version of itself.
But I do believe that there's a disparity as far as the knee-jerk support that I saw when I got home from Iraq.
Foreign war, and I got home, and I was done with the military, and the way that people in North Texas, the way that they would view the Middle East, I don't hear that as much anymore.
It's a disappearing demographic, and I think that the power that the Israeli lobby has, and I talked about this yesterday on the show, I think is waning.
I think their high watermark was probably about 11 years ago.
Now, it's still very powerful.
And you can see that because nobody wants this war, but yet you've got...
They want to work on this country.
And anyway, he's doing it unilaterally, it looks like.
And just because of the powerful interests and powerful lobbies.
but that's not as powerful as it once was.
I think that...
I mean, you mentioned something about the fingerprints of 9-11.
Well, you know, there's investigations that may or may not happen that even, you know, Tucker Carlson had on, was it Senator Ron Johnson, had him on about looking at Building 7 again.
You start, if you uncover any of that, you'll find what you just talked about.
And, you know, back when there was some journalism in this country, Brit Hume.
They covered the dancing Israelis.
That was a Fox News clip.
I forget the other guy's name, but he used to be on Fox News as well.
They covered it.
It was quickly washed away, but they did cover it.
Those guys, the dancing Israelis, spent 70 days in federal prison.
And were released under the Bush administration.
They traded them for something and did something and they released them.
And that's when you talked about them being on Israeli television saying that they were there to document the event.
Just a little bit of push and we would see that that operation was not what we were told.
The official story is ridiculous on its face with everything in it.
But you're right.
In the playbook over and over again, Kubono, who benefits?
You know, the ties to not only the military-industrial complex, but the interests of the Israeli government.
I mean, Netanyahu said, you can go look this up, he said 9-11 was good for Israel.
Yeah.
And the person who got the dancing Israelis out of prison was Michael Chertoff, a dual Israeli citizen who...
So somebody who had advanced knowledge of the event.
He was there to document the event as well.
So I think with Israel's influence, it's two-part.
It's their influence over the American government, which has not waned, in my opinion.
It's still fully captured, which is the reason why we can rightly see Now, the population, the opinion, the popular opinion, that is definitely going away.
That is waning in terms of Israel's influence.
The general public is not blindly supporting these Israeli endeavors.
They're starting to ask questions like, well, does this help us?
Because we've got a lot, you know, it's one thing when you're in a booming economy and everything's fine and you're not worried about 10 million people coming across the southern border or taking your job or AI taking your job or the dollar devaluating and hyperinflating.
If you don't have any of those things, you can maybe say, yeah, sure, let's get into some foreign escapade in the Middle East and stay there for a decade.
But when you've got problems at home, It's very difficult to sell that the United States needs to invest trillions of dollars in yet another war like we had in Afghanistan where you replace the Taliban 20 years later with the Taliban.
You can't sell that to the American people anymore and get their support for it.
You might be able to put the troops on the southern border.
For half the country, you'd probably be able to sell that narrative.
Put the troops in Egypt and stage them there to fly them into Iran?
No, this feels like it's an unsellable...
You'd need the economy to be in good shape.
You need the media to still have teeth, which they don't.
You'd need for there to be some sort of They're in their RVs driving around the country not paying attention, not interested in this any longer.
Trying to spend all their money so they don't have to give it to their kids when they die.
So, you know, filled up with spike proteins and statins driving around their RVs, looking for a KOA on the side of the road somewhere.
But I don't think you can get those people to support another war.
You certainly can't get the younger demographics.
They're the ones that are rightly calling out Israel, which I've been pleasantly surprised for.
That young, that 18 to 28 demographic, like in that age range there, you ask them their feelings on stuff.
In the Middle East, if they even know what's going on, they're not interested in foreign excursions, be it China, defending Taiwan.
We go, wait, why?
We're not interested in that.
That's not our fight.
Or you want to start another war with Iran.
I don't think that you're going to have the support of the people.
But Tony, unfortunately, I don't know if that's even going to matter.
Because it's not as though the government is going to go, oh, you know, we did a poll.
We called 2,000 households and we got the poll results back.
And it seems that war is unpopular.
So, you know, Donald Trump, don't start a war because you'll be unpopular.
You won't get reelected.
Oh, wait, you don't have to worry about re-election.
Do it anyway.
You know, people are going to think that you've sold out to Israel.
People already think you've sold out to Israel.
It doesn't even matter anymore.
And of course we see His blue pills no longer needed the blue pill.
But this is where we go with this, unfortunately.
I have to kind of laugh at the absurdity of it all just to keep from crying because this is real scary.
I have no beef with the Iranian people.
Why would I?
They're not bothering me.
I'm not bothering them.
I don't see the need for a war to start off.
And yet, here we are in the middle of 2025, and I think that by the end of this year, the world may be a very different place.
And that's a shame, because it doesn't have to be that way.
And these people are choosing to do this.
This is an entirely preventable situation.
If you had people that wanted to prevent war, but unfortunately, I think the mask has been off lately.
We've seen these people for who they are.
They want this.
We knew Lindsey Graham would cheerlead.
It's the other people, the people that were semi-moderate that are getting on board with this.
And then you have to start asking, is this what you really want or are you being controlled?
Are you being manipulated from the shadows?
Is your APAC handler in your office telling you this is the way it's going to be or you're going to get primaried and we're going to replace you?
I mean, we saw what happened with Cori Bush and not that I have any love for Cori Bush.
I think she's a lunatic, but she came out strongly against Israel, got primaried.
The new guy who's in her place might as well, you know, Brian Mass showing up wearing an IDF uniform and an Israeli cape for all we care.
So they'll get somebody in there that will support their cause if you don't.
If you're a politician and you don't, if you're Cynthia McKinney or Thomas Massey, they know who you are.
They'll try and get you out of there.
One of my favorite tweets of all.
You kill it on Twitter.
One of my favorite tweets of all time was you after the October 7th that just said, not dancing today.
Not dancing today.
Yeah, that IDF uniform by the congressman.
I thought, is there any historical reference that I read a lot about congressional history?
Going back to guys like Sam Rayburn and Lyndon Johnson and things, I was always interested in that.
Congressional history, Senate history.
I can't think of anything remotely like that.
That'd be like you showing up.
I was thinking, what if you were just dressed as a federale?
Maybe we'll be a cowboy or you could be a pirate.
But it's even more dangerous because it's the assumption that this uniform is better.
And that's the thing about the Israeli worship that I've always just had such a problem with growing up.
And this is the danger that it leads to.
It's like everything they do is right.
They're better.
It's what we're supposed to do, especially you get the Christian element that unfortunately falls for that.
It's so, so sad.
the Schofield Bible and other things that point to that.
And it's just really, um, If you know what we know, just do a little bit of digging and you will find that this is not in our best interest.
And it certainly wasn't the purpose of the United States or the Constitutional Republic to get involved in any of this kind of stuff.
And the sacrifices will have to be if this continues to escalate, which is, you know, Charlie, if we do airstrikes.
And there's retaliations on U.S. bases.
Have you ever seen the picture of all the bases that surround Iran?
I'm sure you have.
If Iran doesn't want to be attacked, why did they put their country so close to our military bases?
They're everywhere.
We're all over the place.
And if you watch the movie W by Oliver Stone, I think Josh Brolin plays George W. Bush.
Oh, gosh.
Is it Christian Bale?
No, it's not him that plays Cheney that time, but it's another Cheney, right?
Cheney goes on the board.
I forget who plays Cheney in the movie.
But Cheney goes on the big board, you know, and then it's all about Iran.
That's the whole push of the seven countries in five years, Wesley Clark on 9-12-2001.
That setup, this could be this endgame, and I don't know if they're in some sort of hurry-up.
Offense kind of system or mode now because of the politics that are going on.
It is interesting that you mentioned, and I've noticed this too, they don't poll anymore.
The last couple of election cycles, they didn't even talk to people about what was going on in their lives.
It was like, this is what we're doing.
This is the contrast.
But then not ever looking at what people actually wanted.
So that is interesting.
We've kind of been in a post-political world.
I don't even know why anybody would study political science anymore, honestly.
I mean, I'm not even saying that facetiously.
I don't even know.
Is there a science between one of these two things is going to win because they'll contrast each other, but they have the same goals in mind.
So that is something very interesting to watch.
I, I fear the, um, That was the, and for, you know, there's two people, there's two versions of people reading that comment.
The optimistic version is saying, oh, well, As long as there's hope, as long as the Iranians don't attack our bases or our Nimitz or whatever that's out there that's a big neon flashing target that says attack us, as long as the Iranians don't do that, we'll be fine.
It's like, no, no, no.
What they're saying, that's the setup.
That's how you know you're about to get attacked.
It's like, well, you know, the one thing that'll get us into this war, I hope they don't do the one thing that gets us into this war.
And then you look at Iran, and Iran's going, we're not going to do that.
We know exactly what will happen.
And yet, it will happen anyway.
And it will happen because it will be the Israelis that do it.
And they will pin it on the Iranians.
We've watched this movie.
We know how it plays out.
If you see an American military base in the Middle East, it'd be in...
You see one of these bases all of a sudden explode and, I don't know, 2,000 American troops die, 40,000 American troops die, whatever.
They all get hit at the same time.
Or the Nimitz that's being positioned into the area that's an old ship set to be decommissioned in a year and that thing winds up miraculously at the bottom of the sea.
It will not be the Iranians.
It will be the Israelis doing it as a false flag to draw America in.
When America says, oh, please don't throw me in the briar patch, and then you're going to get thrown in the briar patch.
That's just how it's going to go.
This is the signaling that they say.
Because then Trump can go back and say, well, I told them not to do it, and then they did it anyway, so I've been given no choice.
I mean, we told you what our red line was, and they crossed it anyway because they're crazy, and they want us dead, and they hate our freedoms, and they hate America, and they hate us for apple pie and blue jeans, and they just want bullos to run the world.
Iran's not bothering me.
I don't see Iran.
Interfering in my life at all.
I don't see Brian Mast wearing his Iranian uniform.
I don't see any of that going on.
I see a lot of Israel worship happening.
I see a country that is desperate to start World War III, to get us to fight World War III, by the way.
Not them to fight World War III, but for us big brother to come in here and give them the targeting information that they need, the bunker busters that they need to get these facilities in the mountains or drilled into the mountain that Iran has.
They need us to do this.
And the only way that they can get us And the one justification is if we get attacked.
So what do you think is going to happen?
We're going to get attacked.
And who's going to get blamed for it?
Iran.
And who's going to be the one doing it?
Not Iran.
It might even be us.
You know, it might even be a special forces.
I mean, this is what you could, the Patrick Clausen interview or, Are you familiar with this guy?
He's the Israeli guy.
He talks about an Iranian crisis instigation, an Iranian sub.
Sometimes they go down.
Sometimes they might not come back up.
Who would know why?
He does the whole thing and you go, oh my God, they're talking.
He's not drunk at a bar talking to his buddy saying, hey, don't tell anyone.
He's on a podium with microphone cameras everywhere.
He is talking about how they want to start a war with Iran.
And so when it kicks off, that piece of footage needs to be admitted as evidence.
Everyone needs to watch that and go, this is what you're working against.
You could say all the nice things to Iran, say we're not going to attack.
It doesn't matter.
The Israelis are going to do it and pin it on them.
We know this because they talk openly about how they're going to do it.
So again, like if I were, if, if I committed a crime and I'm in the pull up a video of me from a week earlier or a year earlier, explaining how, uh, And then a crime gets committed exactly like that.
Wouldn't you pull that video up and go, well, here's you talking about it.
You're basically plotting it.
This is premeditated.
So when this kicks off, and unfortunately I think it will, because I think Netanyahu and his team are backed into a corner.
I don't think they can stop without all going to prison or worse.
So I think that this is – I think they got their guy in office, Trump, who is either ideologically captured, he's captured from blackmail.
I don't know how much they need.
No one says, oh, I bet they got the goods on Trump.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't.
I don't know how much they need to have the goods on Trump.
I think he wants this.
I think he's on this team.
So I'm worried for humanity.
As in any war, I fear for the public who has...
They're just on the receiving end.
The people in Iran, the people in Israel who don't want this war, who are held captive by their own government in the same way we are, by ours.
I know there's a segment of the Israeli population that are throwing their hands up saying, we're not in this either.
Much in the same way you say this.
When the Middle East accuse Americans, they say, you and your government are involved in this.
No, no.
I'm not involved in this at all.
I don't want this war.
I don't want war.
Our government does.
Let's separate governments from the people.
But I just worry for the people because we're always the ones that pay the price.
Because Lindsey Graham's not getting a helmet and a parachute put on.
No matter how much we fantasize about that outcome, it would be fantastic if it happened.
But until it happens, we will be guided into these wars.
Lindsey Graham is a homosexual man with no kids.
He has no stake in the game.
That's why a lot of the people, the Alex Carps and Peter Thiel's and Harare's of the world, they're all homosexual men with no children.
I think that matters.
I think it matters if you have skin in the game for the next generation.
If you don't, and you're plotting dystopian wars, Or autonomous drones that are murdering people or AI running the next theater of war.
I think you need to have kids.
I think it matters.
I think you need to have a bloodline to protect.
Because if you don't, and I'm starting to notice a pattern with a lot of people in positions of power here.
I think when you don't, it changes your decision-making process.
Yeah, I agree with that.
And you look at that.
Certain set, that's a huge portion of intelligence and military-industrial complex operators.
From intelligence to direct military, that is a big portion.
Yeah, and you're right.
And the mindset is not about the future, it's about now.
It's hard to imagine being that person who wants any of this right now.
I mean, just stepping back and logically looking at it, I got a text from my dad.
Right when it kicked off.
By the way, it kicked off on Friday the 13th.
Anybody else notice that?
Where's all my symbology people?
I mean, that's Friday the 13th.
Come on, Matria, guys.
Get in there.
I haven't seen you guys yet.
I noticed it right off the bat.
It was Friday the 13th, and my dad texted me and said, and he was very thoughtful and has been around, so he understands business cycles.
He's like, this is going to be really bad for most businesses.
He said, it may be good for yours.
And I thought about that.
I don't know that it would be, but if it is, I would rather not have it.
I would rather just work on the future.
I'd rather just build something and be creative.
like who is sitting around?
Like you got to think about the type of person and it does make you This is just criminality.
It's pure evil.
Because it has nothing to do with keeping people safe.
It actually is the opposite.
It's about just the ritual of war itself.
And that's what's so heinous and unforgivable about any of this stuff.
And then there's no turning back at this point.
We go through with this.
And I want to get your opinion on what, where goes alternative media at this point, where goes the whole.
because this will break every promise.
If this is the case and we go headlong into this thing, and it may be the unintended...
If we continue, there will be a catalyst for it.
Where do we go?
Because the world's going to change.
America's going to change.
There's going to be a whole host of changes.
I think that politically, culturally, it'll have a profound effect.
But I think one of the first places you'll see it I know there's a big portion of alternative media that's controlled in some way because of sponsors or whatever.
There's an analysis that can be made on that.
But this is a big chunk of it is alternative media.
Trump's the peacemaker.
Trump did this and that.
And this is taking down the deep state.
That kind of just destroys all of that overnight, doesn't it?
I would hope so.
I would hope that people, I mean, but You're never going to wake them up.
They're going to be MAGA forever or they're going to be Build Back Better Biden people.
That's just where they are.
And you don't really worry about them because you can't reach a segment.
It's the free agents in the middle that I'm looking for.
I think alternative media has a real opportunity here, actually.
The actual alternative media, not the mainstream alternative media that David Icke has sort of talked about.
We recognize that the corporate press is dead.
They've lost their...
CNN's down almost 50%.
They can't...
There's no takers.
They had to put it in a different investment vehicle.
It's called Spinco.
They moved it in there so that it would be off their books so that their stock price wasn't hammered by it.
It's a tax write-off for them.
They're going to write off MSNBC for nothing.
by the way, reminder that the MS and MSNBC stands for Microsoft.
So when you hear anything about pro vaccines and all this, So those companies, MSNBC, CNN, they're dead.
There's no appetite for them.
And sort of especially, side note, if RFK Jr. does sign the legislation to ban the mainstream media.
The United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow direct-to-consumer advertising from the pharmaceutical industry.
If they get rid of that, there goes 60% of the ad revenue for mainstream media news as well.
So that would just cut off the lifeblood to them.
So they're either dead or in some sort of zombie state right now.
The next tier, the tier that they've been planning for is now what David Icke has called the mainstream alternative media.
This is the Daily Wires of the world, Tim Poole, all this group.
Anybody who's had a picture taken with Netanyahu.
Right.
That's Jim Hoff, Joe Hoff, the Gateway Pundit guys have got those pictures of Breitbart sitting around a table with Netanyahu back in the early 2000s.
You know, all those guys.
You can see that influence there.
So it's the next level down.
It's, oh, I'm not with the CIA anymore, Sean Ryan.
I just have this great studio and I'm against the CIA, but I fly in all these people and we talk about all these interesting narratives and we're definitely not spooks or anything like that.
So there's the podcasting world that's getting infiltrated, which we knew would happen.
Actually, we sort of thought either it was going to happen that way or they would just throw us off, which may happen eventually.
But so it's the new version.
I'm not turning on my TV to get the news anymore.
I'm turning on my computer.
So it's not the mainstream media anymore.
It's something else.
But is it something else?
Because it feels very much like a new version of the mainstream media, allowing the dialogue and discussion to happen within the accepted parameters, not allowing anybody outside of that to talk about real things, and to have these sort of fake fights in there.
Then there's us.
Then there's the actual alternative media.
And I say that we have a big opportunity here because there are a lot of people that are, I consider to be media, They're looking for information.
They know that the corporate media is compromised.
They don't trust them anymore, be that after COVID or after Joe Biden is healthy or Kamala is filled with joy or whatever it is.
They just watch this and they go, none of this is true.
You guys are just liars.
I need information and I don't know where to get it.
And I don't need to be told how to feel.
Because I can make up my mind on how to feel.
I just need to give me the information and I'll decide how I'm going to interpret this.
And that is a huge opportunity for us.
It's part of the reason why the activist post purchase for me was timely because I felt like this is going to be a pivotal platform.
It's going to be a place that I know I can send people.
All of us can go to get information, to get news articles that you're not going to see anywhere else.
Articles about things that are 18 months early.
We'll talk about them at the dangerous time.
It's one thing when Tucker Carlson's like, you know, I have questions about these vaccines in 2025.
You go, yeah, well, where were you in 2021 when we were doing it?
We were getting deplatformed and all of this stuff.
So some of it is the information that you put out.
But Tony, another part is the timing of which the information is put out.
Are you putting it out when it matters most?
Are you putting it out when it's dangerous?
Are you talking about this stuff when you're in the heart of it, right in the middle of all the insanity?
You're calling out masks, you're calling out vaccines and doing that because we were doing that and we can show our track record of starting that up early in 2020 as soon as the COVID kicked out.
So for these alternative media platforms, We're going to have an opportunity to grab these people, to say, come over here.
I'll give you the news.
You figure it out yourself.
You figure out how you feel.
If it does make you angry, does it make you support one side or the other?
That's your decision.
You go off and internalize that on your own.
We're going to give you the information.
As far as Activist Post goes, I didn't borrow money to buy it.
I bought it with an all-Bitcoin transaction.
I have nobody standing above my shoulder saying, don't put that story out.
Don't do that.
Don't let that person's article get published.
Censor this.
None of that.
There's no censoring.
If there's any censoring, it'd be me, and I'm not going to do that.
I take the articles and republish them the way that the writers intended.
That information goes out there essentially unfiltered.
That's going to be a huge opportunity for people who are Just trying to get their bearings.
So if there's somebody in your life who you can kind of reach and you want to do it in a way that isn't you sitting them down and let me tell you, let me lecture you about what's going on in the Middle East, that doesn't work.
Your friends won't like that.
They'll fight that.
But if you're able to say, hey, here's an article.
Check this out.
What do you make of this?
Have you heard anything about this before?
Check out this article about...
Or what's happening in Africa?
or what's going on with your health.
So we've got a nice wide variety here of topics and categories that people can discuss There's always something going on over there.
I added podcasts as well.
And most importantly, there's a solution section too.
So if you find that all this information is overwhelming and you want to do something about it, but you're not really sure where to start, go to the solution section.
You can read through a bunch of articles there.
You can get my free book.
So I think that this could wind up being the golden age for the alternative media.
I mean, I know that there'll be a lot of infiltration.
be a lot of people that you're going to have to keep your head on a swivel to make sure people aren't getting paid off that the person that you've been following all this time isn't taking pictures with Benjamin Netanyahu at Mar-a-Lago or wherever.
But once you sift through, I think it's a great opportunity for us to reach a segment of the world out there who's just looking for information and doesn't need the...
We learned a lot from 2020-21, didn't we?
Those of us who are out just way out front talking about, you know, the medical tyranny, people like David Knight.
I mean, just before anyone else calling it the lockdowns and what was to follow and everything else and what it was all about, you know, like trying to trying to decipher that was.
And you have shows like that.
It's such an honor to host for David.
And then meeting you and other people like Billy Ray Valentine and Don Jeffries and others.
We just kind of been out in front of a lot of things.
And then, you know, years later, you'll have these same...
I'm like, that was the story.
We were covering that five years ago.
What is it with you guys?
And they tiptoe into stuff in territory that's already, like we already laid on the barbed wire and said, run over our back.
Come on.
And then these guys kind of just waltz in.
So that is a portion of it I think you're.
Absolutely correct.
And then I love it that you've done this with Activist Post.
And you and I have been talking, and you shared this with me a while ago.
I'm so cool to watch this be put together because I know you and I know, you know, your heart and like what you're who you are, why you do what you do and your passion for it and the consistency.
And I love this because this is coming from a place where I know I can if I go here, I know that.
It's just like yesterday, Charlie.
It's such a teachable moment.
The headline of Drudge for the Minnesota shooter was the MAGA maniac, and then you go over to Zero Hedge, and he's the No Kings killer.
It's literally two separate things at the same time.
I'm like, well, let's figure out what this even means.
Somewhere in the middle is the truth, probably.
But not, I mean, this extremes of like something that Drudge does now with whatever it is.
And then you just can't trust it.
All that, you're exactly right.
People just want to, can you just tell me what's going on without lecturing me?
I just want to know, what's the intelligence?
let me make a decision.
And I think that's what I want to make better.
That's the reason I do what I do, like whether my show is, you know, it's parapolitics and it's, I do precious metals analysis and I do Bitcoin.
I do that macro economic stuff, big picture.
That's what I like to do.
And I do it to try to figure out myself what's next because I can't, I can't control the political environment.
It's like, I think at this point, we're a lot like meteorologists.
Like, hey, here's a tornado.
It's going to probably strike here.
I can't make the tornado go away.
And I try to use that analysis.
The best thing I can do is tell you what I believe is next, and you can make those decisions however you want to react to that yourself.
And so I love this.
Could you imagine someone coming out and screaming at you, though?
How dare you talk about the tornadoes?
You know what I mean?
That's true.
We have to support.
We have to support.
And you just go, I'm just giving you the news.
I'm just giving you the information.
You deal with it however you want.
But there's always going to be the anti-tornado crowd out there.
You know that.
It doesn't matter.
You see it coming.
You call it.
Everybody can clearly see it.
But if you point it out, you clearly hate weather.
And you are a bag of tornadoes on their way.
I think that's also sort of essential for this, too.
We have to have a sense of humor.
I don't mean this to be disrespectful.
I mean, I know we're talking about World War III.
There's nothing funny about it.
But you do have to get yourself to a position where you can laugh at the absurdity of it all.
I think it helps you process it.
And I think that for the general public, the normies out there, as Corbett calls them, You've got to ease them into this information.
You cannot drop Building 7 on them on day one.
It's too much.
You sort of have to start the process of...
of, you know, for those in our lives, our orbits who are near to us and we want to talk, we want to have these conversations because much in the same way we're warning about the tornadoes, we want to warn our friends and family, like, hey, this is what we see, you know, but you've got to do that in a very careful way.
And I've done it every wrong way you can do it, including bringing up 9-11 at Thanksgiving dinner, which I don't recommend, or sitting somebody down and saying, now let me tell you what's going on and just opening up like an information fire hose.
Nobody wants that.
But I'll tell you, if you can get your family members or friends who you want to connect with.
Hey, what do you make of this?
Or send them an article from Activist Post and say, hey, what do you make of this?
Look at this.
Read this article.
This seems crazy.
What do you think about it?
Because a lot of the times what I've noticed in these situations is that the person who I'm trying to connect with, I ask that question, they've never really thought about it.
They've never really verbalized it.
They've never worked it out if they've even thought about it at all.
But you get them talking.
I remember I had this conversation with a buddy of mine who was a good friend.
I asked him, what do you make of the statistics of the flu?
This was 38 million cases of the flu in 2018, 38 million cases in 2019, zero cases in 2020.
But then the flu just went away.
I go, what do you attribute that to?
He goes, I don't know, masks?
Really?
Why couldn't we do that?
And so I'm sort of probing to get his level of knowledge on this.
Don't you find this a little interesting that the numbers are so wonky on this?
And every now and then you're, well, yeah, that is kind of weird.
I never thought about that.
Or I never saw that.
Or they're working off of different source material than we are.
We're used to this information.
We're used to the CDC being liars.
We're used to the White House and State Department telling us that everything's fine when it's not.
But a lot of our friends, they have their heads down.
They're in their nine-to-five jobs.
They're going to work every day, and they haven't really thought about this.
So your boomer uncle that you want to connect with, you've got to make it a dialogue, not a monologue.
You've got to open that line of communication and get them to start talking about what it is.
Because it's an important time to reach people, and you can do it the wrong way, but you can also do it the strategic way, the right way, and that is to have the conversations, and you'll get a lot of information from it.
You'll find out where their level is.
What's this guy's baseline level?
Are you understanding where I'm coming from with this question, or are you just completely out of it?
And you'll find from time to time, there's some people you can work on.
And there's some people that go, oh, I know all about this.
The false flag's coming.
and you go, "Oh my God, I didn't think you'd Like, no, no, no.
I know what's happening.
So every now and then, you'll find that somebody in your orbit is a closeted conspiracy theorist.
And you get them talking a little bit.
You pull them aside at Thanksgiving dinner.
And they're like, oh, I know exactly what's happening here.
And you go, okay, you're one of us.
Start that process of having conversations with people in your orbit, people that you think you can reach, because we're going to lose the information war if we're not careful, and we're going to get everybody thinking that World War III isn't just a must.
It's that we should have done it sooner, that we should have started it years ago, or we should have taken out Iran when we had the chance 10 years ago, or whatever it is.
No, no, no.
We've got to have these conversations now, because Because I feel like the time is running out.
For those of us who see what's happening here, we are sprinting into a third world war.
And boy, once that starts, all the models are incomplete.
You just don't know where everything's going to go.
And everything is impacted.
The economy, travel, small business, big business, currency.
Everything is connected.
And oil, God, they shut off the Strait of Hormuz.
20 to 30% of the world's oil and natural gas is coming through there.
They turn that off all of a sudden.
And oil goes from whatever it is now, 65 a barrel or whatever, to 165 overnight.
You think that's not going to impact your little small town shop?
It's going to impact everybody.
You know, so all of this matters and it's all connected in this.
And for those of us paying attention, it's our duty and obligation to try to wake up those in our orbit that we think are able to be awake.
But I'll tell you what, Tony, I put a quote in my octopus book, a Navajo proverb.
It says, you cannot wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
And unfortunately, I fear that there are a lot of people in this world who are pretending to be asleep right now.
And that is dangerous.
I think it's an excellent and chilling summation, my friend.
That's where we are.
And our job, really, I think, trying to talk with people and not at them.
And the Socratic method, like you mentioned, it takes more time, but it's more effective than just yelling at somebody.
And we didn't really recover after COVID-1984.
I mean, I fly around.
I travel for business.
I show up places.
I think this is not the same world.
And it's not that far away from the world before, but as far as timelines, so something happened.
It's traumatic.
And that's what, if this is allowed to happen, and I think you and I agree that the trains left the station for a world war.
It's what it looks like to us.
Unfortunately, I think it will change a lot of things.
And so we have to even, we have to double and triple down to our commitment to, to analysis and history for the sake of history, for history's sake, to get this right.
Because you're absolutely, I mean, correct on think of the revisionist history that you get from World War II, you know, like people that, If you really break it down, it doesn't make any sense.
But people build their entire careers off of these silly narratives and things that It's absolutely off the mark and it's going to cost you more lives.
The takeaway from World War II was you can't have any sort of negotiation.
It's appeasement.
Peace in our time and Neville Chamberlain and all that stuff.
People forget it was England declared war on Germany, not the other way around.
Stuff like that.
It pays to know what the established history narrative is and then you've got to Unlearn that and then relearn a different version, the true version of history.
That was something I was unprepared for once I left my schooling, my compulsory schooling, and got out into the real world.
What I found was that so much of what I thought I had known about the history of our world has been a lie.
And as they say, history is written by the victors.
And it's written for a variety of reasons.
Let's not allow ourselves to get seduced into a third world war, a good war, the final war.
It might be the final war.
That's the problem.
Head on a swivel.
Pay attention to what's coming.
If we get ourselves in a scenario where there is a false flag event, make sure to connect with people close to you saying, you know, let's not be so quick to...
This is how they do these things.
Well, tell us what's next on macroaggressions on your podcast and tell people where they can find you.
Well, the Wednesday's episode, I had to re-record.
I recorded it three weeks ago.
I tried to get some of my podcast episodes done in advance.
Block out some time so that I can write because it's tough to do both at the same time.
I want to really kind of get in writing mode for a new book I'm working on.
So I recorded this episode and I had to rerecord it because between the time I did it and I was saying, expect chaos in the streets.
Expect something to kick it off.
Well, and then we got the Los Angeles thing.
So I had to go back in.
I had to re-record the episode to make it a little bit more, you know.
Up to the times, because I predicted something that was going to happen.
It wound up happening before the episode went out.
So you can catch Macroaggressions wherever podcasts are served.
We do two a week.
One on Wednesday is a monologue.
On Sundays, it's interviews.
We have Steve Poikinen on right now promoting Third Eye Carnival in Pueblo, Colorado, the weekend of 4th of July.
If you're going to be in the area of Pueblo, Colorado, we're having something called Third Eye Carnival.
Again, this will be the third year in a row at the Blowback Art Gallery.
It's great.
Weekend show.
We've got bands playing.
We've got live podcasts going on.
You'll love it.
It's a fantastic place.
If you want to connect with me, macroaggressions.io is the website to do that.
And of course, Activist Post.
Activist Post.
Bookmark it.
We didn't make an app for your phone because we didn't want to centralize control into the hands of Google and Apple in their app stores because we saw what happened with Zero Hedge.
So you're going to have to just pull it up on a browser on your phone, but I promise it'll fly.
Works really well.
We rebuilt the whole website.
Launched it in January.
So activistpost.com is a place to do that.
Thanks, Tony, for having me back.
I always appreciate our conversations.
I do too, brother.
It's always a pleasure.
Charlie and I were texting and just didn't even mention what we're going to talk about.
I'll see you tomorrow.
I'll see you tomorrow.
I'll see you Tuesday.
See you next Tuesday.
Just popped in and we can have these kind of talks.
I love your mind and appreciate all your work, my friend.
So let's stay in touch.
I'll do a show soon, okay?
All right.
Well, folks, we're still live.
Got one hour left here on the David Knight Show.
Charlie's so much fun.
Makes radio easy.
Makes podcasting easy.
He's always got so much to talk about and references.
If you haven't, I highly recommend all of his books, but The Octopus of Global Control.
Very well done.
And one of the things that will blow your mind, if you get the octopus of global control, and I need to have Charlie back on just to do a whole show about it, was the Boston bombing.
The one that happened in 2013 or so.
Got to check that out.
There's some interesting, highly interesting tidbits in there.
All right, as I promised, if you go to my YouTube, if you go to at Tony Arterburn and subscribe, I don't know how long they'll let me run it there, but it's fun.
I didn't know there wasn't one under my name, so I grabbed it.
And I generally will do a live show.
My radio show's there.
I might do America Unplugged there.
But if you want to join that and join the chat, this is kind of an ask me anything.
We'll open it up.
You want to talk about gold, silver, Bitcoin, geopolitics, history, anything.
You can throw that in the last hour.
I thought that would be fun here.
For the last hour, I'm going to host for a while.
I don't know when I'll be back.
Hopefully sooner than later.
It's been too long since I went the last time, but always a pleasure.
So if you want to hit that, anything that...
Let me go, and I'll have to go back and forth between...
I have to stop the audio.
So if you're on Rumble, you want to send some comments in, you certainly can.
And I'll check that.
Let me see what's going on on Rumble.
What a great segment, too.
Love having Charlie on.
Wakes my brain up in the second hour.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Still just waiting on some comments.
you guys anything on Rumble, anything you want to as Y 'all should talk about the Las Vegas shooting.
Yes, we should.
I don't have that show.
We haven't done it yet.
I need to do a show on the Boston bombing.
But in Charlie's book, The Octopus of Global Control, he writes about that.
It's very well done.
Let's see.
All right.
In between questions, I will go and check out this last article I had up over on LouRockwell.com.
We've got a couple more things we can cover, but as you can see, my wheelhouse, I feel like every problem's a nail and I've got a hammer, but it's the most important stuff.
War and the financial system, these are the macro things, what's most changing in our world.
In the politics of it, it's hard to get excited about politics anymore.
And when I was a kid, it fascinated me.
And I remember being eight years old, and I tell this story, I've told it many times, but being eight years old, watching the vice presidential debates between Lloyd Benson and Dan Quayle.
Now, Lloyd Benson was a Texas Democrat senator.
He was the vice presidential candidate running in 1988.
With Michael Dukakis against George H.W. Bush.
And I'll never forget the exchange that he had.
Dan Quayle said something about John F. Kennedy.
And Lloyd Benson said, I knew Jack Kennedy.
Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine.
Senator, you know Jack Kennedy.
I watched that.
Eight years old.
I was interested in politics.
I'm not really interested anymore.
Mainly because of what Charlie said, where the majority of people, they don't even poll.
Do they even poll for anything anymore?
Like, if you're studying political science, why?
Like, what is the science behind it?
It's just demographics now.
And it's sad because there should be, you know, the only way to have, you know, any sort of real discourse would be to have, you know, a political movement to mean something.
I don't see that really making a difference.
And this is LewRockwell.com.
If it's to be war with Iran, let it be the war that nobody comes to.
This is by Caitlin Johnston.
So let's make this clear.
If the U.S. bombs Iran, Iran will kill U.S. military personnel in response.
If this happens, it will not be Iran's fault that those military personnel died.
It will be Trump's fault.
It will be the fault of everyone whose decisions led to the attack which resulted in their deaths.
And they will have died for nothing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Anyone who dies in a war with Iran will have died for nothing.
They will not have died fighting for anyone's freedom.
They will not have died protecting their country.
The warmongers and propagandists will try to spend their deaths in this way, but they will be lying.
The bereaved parents and partners of those who die will also try to frame their deaths in this way.
But they will only be fooling themselves because the truth will be too painful to bear.
I quoted out an article that I wrote 10 years after the war in Iraq, the first article I ever had published, and I quoted the philosopher Nietzsche who said that most of us rarely have the courage for what we already know.
You already know that.
You know, you're trying to frame things.
And it is sad, you know, as a combat veteran, because I sympathize so much with people that, you know, I serve with.
They have to frame it in a way.
And that's fine.
You know, do what you need to do.
But that is the truth.
Like, anything that happens from this point on, you'll die for nothing, unfortunately.
Because it has nothing to do with American security or American prosperity or the Constitution.
Or the Bill of Rights.
Or your family's safety.
As a matter of fact, it makes it worse.
Ironically.
And sadly.
Tragically.
And the truth is that everyone who dies in such a war will have died because a few powerful people made some extremely evil decisions out of their own self-interest and for no other reason.
She goes on to say, do not join the U.S. military.
Do not join the militaries of any nation which normally participates in America's wars.
If you are in those militaries, you should get out by any means necessary as quickly as possible.
If further on down the track there is a draft for a war with Iran, you should dodge the draft.
You should absolutely do that.
Because I'm going to remind you of the genesis of what just happened.
See, they'll be swept under the rug, right?
Gore Vidal called this the United States of amnesia.
But he was an old, he was the gay Pat Buchanan, if you will, but he was very much an old Republic stylist of anti-war.
He's anti-war left, which, where are you guys?
It's like, there's more Bigfoot sightings.
And literally more actual footage of UFOs than the anti-war left.
I haven't seen you guys in forever because you got the spirit of the Jacobin.
You got that operator speak.
I know you guys now.
And it's funny because I talked about that yesterday with the No Kings protests and stuff.
They have the spirit of the revolutionary.
They don't have the spirit of the anti-war.
They don't have the same liberal mindset going back to Howard Zinn.
Who wrote The People's History of the United States.
Howard Zinn was a thoughtful man.
I mean, you can't agree with everything he said, but as a left winger, who speaks for the left anymore?
Howard Zinn, he was the first bombers in World War II.
It was the end of the war.
They'd already won, but his squadron carried out dropping the first jellied gasoline.
On people.
And it was also known as, became known as napalm during the Vietnam War.
And that so affected him.
And like he went home and became a history professor.
But yeah, that's, you know, he wrote against government overreach, war, the national security state.
They don't do that anymore on the left.
I don't know what the left actually is anymore.
It's like a death cult.
But the right's not helping itself either.
I'm stuck in the middle somewhere between these two clowns.
If you fight in such a war, you'll be fighting for nothing.
If you die in such a war, you will die for nothing.
If you lose your limbs in such a war, you will lose your limbs for nothing.
If you suffer permanent brain damage in such a war, you will lose your mind for nothing.
Even if you manage to survive such a war, your body and brain intact, you will live the rest of your life with the knowledge that you killed human beings for nothing.
Thank you.
Read this on Fox News.
You know, Giddy, one of the disgusting things, and you talk to people like Charlie, and I try to be as thoughtful as I can.
I don't want clicks, and I don't really care about followers or anything, so I'm fine.
So I just do the best analysis that I can on my shows just for me.
This is literally a support group.
I do this for myself, and I do this for you, and I do this for me.
It's like I try to give back.
It's symbiotic.
But every once in a while, you think about it, like I just talked with Charlie about, and how psychotic you have to be to be ramping this up right now.
Like, what kind of sick, sick person?
Would be wanting to throw us into some no-win, unconstitutional war for the state of Israel.
That's what it is.
Israel attacked Iran.
And by the way, even if they didn't, it has nothing to do with American security.
We let people every day walk across, waltz over the border, trafficking children and drugs and whatever.
I mean, not that I care about drugs, but I care about American security.
The criminality on the South.
I care about the ecological damage that's happened on the South.
I care about my country.
I care about the rule of law.
What are we doing all this for?
That just happens, but we're going to do something about over there, which is infuriating.
And the mere fact that you have so many in high levels that have weaseled their way up there.
They get to pull these levers against the wishes of the majority of American people.
It's an affront to my sin.
You know, veteran cemeteries are packed full of people that thought they were defending the Constitution.
Some of them are people that I miss every single day.
And they believed in something.
And then these people just throw us into...
It really is.
And there will be consequences.
Like this is the, when you throw this into the matrix of things, like there's a ripple effect.
And it will have unintended consequences.
But it's good that we have the origin story.
I'm paying attention.
I am awake for this one.
I'm awake.
I know exactly, same as what Charlie's saying with the Nimitz, you know.
Same thing that happened to the USS Liberty.
It doesn't have to have the same kind of thing.
History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.
I am awake for this one, ladies and gentlemen.
There's a stanza from Carl Sandburg's The People, Yes, which has been bubbling around in my consciousness a lot lately.
The little girl saw her first troop parade and asked, What are those?
Soldiers?
What are soldiers?
They are for war.
They fight each.
They fight each tries to kill as many of the other side as he can.
The girl held still and studied.
Do you know I know something?
Yes.
What is it you know?
Sometime they'll give a war and nobody will come.
Yeah, that's always been the question.
What if they threw a war and then none of us showed up?
If the U.S. directly attacks Iran, and it's looking increasingly likely that it will, Iran can be expected to kill as many U.S. soldiers with powerful attacks on U.S. military bases as they were within striking range of its missiles.
If that happens, the U.S. can be expected to launch a full-scale regime-change war on Iran.
If that's to be, then let this be the war that nobody comes to, because the alternative is to fight and die in a stupid war waged by evil people for nothing.
Now I know who's on the Epstein client list.
Anybody who supports this in public office or that has influence, there's your de facto Epstein client list.
Because nobody, no rational human being, nobody who knows anything about history would support this.
And you will see Your favorite politicians and all your heroes.
Being from Texas is exhausting sometimes because we have the worst people.
Like the worst politicians.
We have the best people.
It doesn't reflect Texas.
I just meet the people that would, you know, farmers and ranchers and small business owners and hardworking people and it's like you meet and then you see the politicians and you're like, what?
What happened?
All right.
Well, Well, that's Caitlin Johnston, ladies and gents.
Excellent piece.
I'm going to see if you guys got any.
We're still going to make...
Twisted Communicate said, make Tony's bookshelf great again.
Am I in decline?
I keep pulling books off of it, and it's...
Melissa set this up for me in 2020, and I'm not maintained it well.
If you could see the front of what I'm looking at, it's like all this equipment that doesn't work.
I'm running everything off of a laptop.
Twisted communique, Tony.
This bookshelf does not receive Israeli money.
Uh, yeah.
Thank you.
This is great.
Anything you guys want to talk about on the chat?
You go to the Rumble chat, that's probably the best place to go.
If you've got anything you want to ask me, you want to put in the chat, I'll talk about it.
Wise Wolf Gold represent.
Love that silver, but...
Oh, appreciate you.
That's Truth Speaker 1977.
Gar Goldsmith says, I can't wait for Charlie's new book, Octopus, was fantastic.
Wasn't it, though?
That's such a great book.
It's one of those books, like when you're in alternative media, that when you need to kind of like reframe your mind, like right now, I need to kind of go back to the catacombs, go back to source.
And start re-reading some of those works like Charlie Robinson and Don Jeffries and David Icke and things.
Gary Goldsmith said, oh yeah, Tony Junebug, Governor, the bookshelf doesn't have War as a Racket on display.
It used to.
And I don't know, maybe it's, I've gotten it off before and pulled it and read from it.
You guys, my life can be chaotic sometimes.
Guard says one more book will fit on Tony's bookshelf.
Charlie's next.
Yeah, one more.
Just one more.
I have a question, Tony.
Gold, is that a green screen, bro?
Like me on a green?
No, this is just my bookshelf.
This is just me.
I have a green screen in Texas.
I sometimes use the backdrop to war games.
Of NORAD.
That's fun.
Tony, how is AI impacting the gold and silver space?
Oh, I read an article about that last week on my show.
And it's going to increase the price of commodities because, again, like the – fiat system falling apart and I think commodities will go up with that but it's also the robotics and other things that the industries that will be produced by AI machines and other things supposedly is going to drive the price of of everything up
You guys got an active chat.
Oh, Boogeyman Ketchup says, Tony, do you still do heavy squats?
No.
I do squats.
This is a fun question.
I do deadlifts.
Yesterday I did deadlifts.
My hip flexors are so sore.
I've been working on that.
No, I do like the Hatfield squats where you've got the weight more positioned out front.
I'll do front squats.
I don't do them heavy anymore.
I could, but it's just not conducive to anything.
We can go all kinds of topics, guys.
That's fun.
Yeah, Truth Speaker 1970 says, silver having a nice run today.
It is having a nice run today.
What's silver doing?
We're just over 37. Yeah, it was over 37, back under 37, but it's still, I mean, it's staying strong.
You've probably got some profit taking.
Let's see.
I've got back over on YouTube.
I have always considered our freedom comes from the millions of people owning millions of arms, not from the wars fought to make evil men rich.
I hate that so many fought, killed, and died for a lie.
I do too.
This is from Denny.
Yeah, that's that one thing, right?
Still are an armed nation.
We still have the Second Amendment.
We still have the right to keep and bear arms.
That does for the security of a free state, right?
That is necessary.
And that has been a bulwark against globalist tyranny.
And that's something that we can make a difference on.
As far as gun ownership and things like that, that's still something you can make an absolute difference on.
And free speech is another thing.
I think there's been some Improvements on speech over the last six, seven years.
I'm proud of that.
I think there's been some good...
But then we get into situations like today, and you just can't get drowned by the partisanship of it.
You have to step back and call it for what it is.
And I think that's absolutely necessary, and it's okay.
There's always going to be challenges, and I think it makes you better.
If you met no resistance, that's the thing about becoming the optimal self.
If you don't have resistance, then you won't.
If you don't have anything pushing back against you, it's arguably something that happened during the Cold War.
Part of its best self in some of those times, you know, or did it represent the best of its ideals because of, and you can argue, look, I know you can argue all things about the fakeness of it, but I think at some time it was, you know, the America of 1985 of Rocky IV, that's a completely different America, don't you think?
You know, the way that it was represented, at least when I was a kid, and what it looked like to me, and the ideals of it.
And I think that it spawned from entertainment.
It spawned from popular culture, from politics at the time.
And it's not perfect, but it seemed a lot more cohesive.
Of course, it was a different country then.
Demographically, you could have the Reagan Democrats and Reagan wins 48 states in 1984.
Is anybody carrying 48 states ever again?
Probably.
They'll be blue.
It'll be whatever blue means to you.
But that's just because of demographics.
Interesting times, folks.
I'm going to continue.
There's another article I want to read.
I'll go back and forth to the chat.
We've got about 35 minutes.
We've got about 35 minutes.
This was fun today.
Again, I'm going to keep you in the wheelhouse of the monetary system, global finance.
I can't really announce what I'm going to call the new show yet.
I need to have everything drawn up before I do that, but you guys are going to love it.
And we're going to do a weekly broadcast that is in conjunction with a newsletter.
And the newsletter will go out the same day, and we're going to cover those articles that are in the newsletter, and it'll be interactive.
So we'll put that out to our – it's a free – So you got to stay tuned for that, and that's going to be a great project.
That'll be, I think, the biggest thing I've done so far.
In my podcast, because we're going to be on every channel, and it's geopolitics somewhat, but it's mostly precious metals, Bitcoin, monetary system, Intel, and open source.
And I think that will hopefully keep us from having to suffer too much against censorship or getting banned.
So we'll be able to reach more people, because we're going to be covering these macroeconomic topics.
but you guys know my background.
My origin is out of the conspiracy theory of history because that's where scholarship is.
I didn't get into the realm of conspiracy by wanting clicks.
I got there by reading a lot and thinking.
And then seeing how things work.
It's just evidence-based.
Conspiracy theory is just grown-up time.
That's what that is.
All right, this is Zero Hedge today.
Gold, the global financial system's lie detector.
It has a little question mark there.
Author by Matthew Pippenberg via Von Gehr's Gold.
Is gold calling out a broken financial system?
It's funny because I've used this same rhetoric.
Early this year, I was asked to give my most heretic opinion about the global financial system.
This was an unusual yet bold question.
And after a brief pause, I answered that the entire system was, well, a lie.
This may seem like a sensational response and an industry sometimes prone to the sensational.
However, if we look at some stubborn facts, the answer is truer than it's extreme.
When it comes to a financial system rotting from within, the Botox-like beauty of a ballooning S&P and centralized credit market hides an aging and decrepit disease.
That is...
Hiding financial truths and the forked tongues and euphemistic lingo is literally all around us.
This is from the...
Very era of my birth, the list of lies is almost comical.
And this has a picture of Nixon saying, your dollar will be worth just as much as tomorrow as it is today.
Okay.
Thank you.
It wasn't, though.
That's August 15, 1971.
No, it wasn't.
You know what's funny is by, and I don't take pleasure in this, but he had John Connolly was his secretary of the treasury.
John Connolly was in the car.
He was governor of Texas.
He was riding in the car with Kennedy.
That's where you get the magic bullet theory.
And I was joking.
He created the magic monetary theory and the magic bullet theory at the same time.
separated by less than 10 years.
So 1971, Nixon was in love with him.
This is the greatest thing.
I think by the early 80s, though, John Connolly had filed for bankruptcy.
Nothing wrong with sometimes having to file for bankruptcy, but it doesn't make you lord of finance.
Not to say that I am, but I wasn't secretary of the treasury either.
In 1971, for example, when Nixon decoupled the dollar from gold, thereby allowing his own and future administrations the unfettered luxury and sickness of expanding, debasing the money supply, he promised the measure would be temporary and that our dollar would be worth just as much today or tomorrow as it is today.
Both statements, of course, were open lies.
Fifty years later, the dollar remains unchaperoned to gold.
And when measured against a milligram of that same precious metal, the USD and other major fiat currencies, it has lost 99% of its purchasing power.
And that's the experiment of what I've been talking about, and I think I can continue to pay attention to that because that's the big story.
And maybe it's just me.
Maybe it's just that I'm interested in it, but I think it's bigger than me.
What even we give it credit for.
It's not just about having a higher price in your silver or having a higher price in your gold or your Bitcoin or something like that.
This is a monetary revolution of the highest order.
So we're literally watching something of major historical importance.
Possibly the biggest story.
And it will change everything.
And like I said earlier in the show, I mean, that is...
It's like, what will they do?
They can't do what they're doing forever.
So it has to change or you have a complete implosion of the entire system itself.
Like the death of currency.
The difference between currency and money is the magic trick.
Because Just like this article mentioned, it's 1971.
You go off the gold standard.
Gold's $35 an ounce on August 15, 1971.
You end the decade.
1979, by the time I was born, gold's close to $800 an ounce.
And that's in 1979 dollars.
I don't think we've reached even parity of then, as far as purchasing power is concerned.
And that's what happened to the dollar.
There was a lot of effort that went into Putting that aside and buying some time.
But whatever was accomplished inside this past 54 years, it is, I think, a reckoning that's happening.
Meanwhile, gold is rising faster against the USD and other world currencies as their purchasing power is diluted by desperate policies to inflate away their debt with debased currencies.
That's the thing.
It's worldwide, folks.
Just forget about the dollar.
You should look at even understanding what's happening to the Bank of Japan.
If you go on the Twitter handle, Gold Telegraph, he brings that up a lot.
What's happening with the Japanese yen.
And that's another lesson in centralized control of central banking and fiat currency.
And then what ends up happening when you talk about deficit spending and borrowing.
The owning of government debt by the central bank, it's just a snake eating its own tail.
And that's why you look at the price of gold or something that is a hard asset or something finite like Bitcoin, it's hard not to see the dichotomy there.
Like one's going one way, one's going the other.
And you can see like the big capital starting to trend into a new monetary order based off order.
Lying to our founding fathers.
It's also worth noting that fiat paper dollar unbacked by gold is a direct contradiction to our constitution and in my mind is itself just another lie.
Wilson's Fed, Woodrow Wilson.
But long before the lies of 1971, let us not forget the lie of 1913 when Wilson signed an equally unconstitutional Federal Reserve into law, a so-called independent bank, which is anything but independent.
It's effectively a fourth branch of government and is neither federal nor a reserve.
It runs things, folks.
Put it that way.
They were even asking, That should be a big tell for you if you're like an establishment hack.
It's like, well, can President Trump not fire Jerome Powell?
We don't even know what he can do.
Well, that's interesting.
I thought this was a part of the government.
I think the president, by its charter, gets to appoint a new head of the Federal Reserve or gets to select from a group of people.
Like in name only, right?
To the Fed, the president's like whatever the king or queen of England is to the parliament or something.
It's a figurehead.
Larry Summers.
Fast forward to the great financial crisis of 2008, which was effectively a mortgage-backed security credit implosion driven by an unregulated derivatives market.
Even more staggering dishonesty.
A decade before this levered credit implosion, Assistant Secretary, Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, was called to Congress to answer Brooklyn Bourne's concern as the head of the CFTC that these derivative instruments, if left unregulated, would destabilize markets.
Summers publicly embarrassed Bourne and then told the world, That the bankers in charge of these OTC instruments of levered destruction were more than sophisticated enough to manage the risk.
Of course, by the 2008 market implosion, we all know that assertion was a lie.
That was a weird time.
Because so much was out in the open that even as a 28-year-old I was watching, I was like, that can't be right.
Can't be right.
The markets aren't that strong.
They're not doing well.
And then you just see these financial analysts saying, it's great.
It's great.
Everything's fine.
It's all very sound.
And then Bernanke, Yellen, and Powell.
We all...
would only be a temporary measure, was just another lie.
I remember that too.
It was the euphemistic quantitative easing.
That was referenced here was Bernanke.
And I remember the price of gold was hitting close to $2,000.
Now he calmed everybody down.
That's when silver hit its last $50.
That was 2011.
Calmed everything down.
Won't happen again.
This is QE1 was soon followed by QE2, 3, 4, Operation Twist, and then the unlimited QE by 2020.
That's unlimited.
But such lies are nothing new to central bankers.
Remember Yellen?
He says, you will never see another financial crisis in your lifetime.
Janet Yellen, spring of 2018.
I do not worry that we could have another financial crisis.
Janet Yellen, fall of 2018.
Wow.
Wow.
This is so much fun.
He's breaking it down.
Alright, I'll see what else is in the chat before.
I don't want to let the clock run out too far.
I don't want to let the clock run out too far.
Thank you.
Let's see.
This is a twisted communique.
If Rambo, Waylon Jennings, and David Knight had a nephew, his name would be Tony.
And Blue Collar Eric says, Bookcase Tony ain't that tough.
I like you, Blue Collar Eric.
I ain't that tough.
But Twisted Communicate is very kind, sir.
I would never claim to be tough.
It's hard to look tough when you walk around with a chihuahua.
It's kind of funny.
It's kind of incongruent.
But hey, try to figure that out.
What am I trying to communicate with walking around with my chihuahua all the time?
He's my best friend.
Again, if you want to throw some questions out to me, you're definitely welcome to as we close out.
We're in the last 21 minutes of the show.
Professor SDN, where is David Knight?
He's taking some time off.
convalescing, sir.
He's just getting better, ready to come back to the I'm just keeping the chair warm for him, the best of my ability.
That's over there on my ex or Twitter or whatever it's called.
I don't like rebranding.
It's like when they did the new Coke.
Remember that in the eighties?
Let's see.
Tony, how do you dance and still look tough?
Is that a real question?
Like you're talking about the dancing Israelis.
Do they look tough to you?
I'm not sure I dance that much.
Is that fun?
That's Patrick Swayze.
I don't know.
Can you dance?
I don't know.
Can you still be tough?
And you can two-step.
Is that a thing?
I think you can be, that's somewhat You guys are fun.
You have to go check out America Unplugged's channel over on Rumble.
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We do that.
I used to do an everyday show.
I kept a one hour.
It's kind of a remnant.
But we're on episode 506, I think, coming up 507.
Coming up this week.
So, yeah, do join.
Okay.
Okay.
And what will you do when the government outlaws gold?
That's a great question because I get that all the time and I don't know.
The people that kept the gold when FDR wrote his executive order in April of 1933, the people that kept the gold did really well.
They just didn't get caught.
I know that they kept the gold because I buy that gold all the time, which is some of the funniest things because the pre-1933 gold coins, there's still a ton of them out there.
A lot of people said, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Because you have to think, if you're holding that gold coin and you realize that there's a whole wider world out there and just because the U.S. outlaws it or something, He made it illegal for you to hoard, and you were able to keep a certain amount of it.
I just don't fear that as much because the government's going to do what the government does, but if you read history like I do, then you find that gold prevails.
It outlasts governments.
It outlasts tyranny.
It just outlasts us.
It's God's money.
If you want to call it that, it's not from a scriptural standpoint.
It just means That it is finite.
It's from our earth.
Well, part of it.
It's from the formation of it.
And it'll be here forever.
And that's the way it works.
Blue Collar Eric says, Tony, you are the man, all jokes aside.
Well, you can joke with me anytime.
I love that.
I'm fine with that, as a matter of fact.
I'll tell you guys a story.
I work a lot on maintaining, I think, as I read more, understand about presence and the presence of mind, which is to make good decisions and to be in the moment and to be the best version of yourself.
We teach these little boys.
I was taught a lot of this stuff.
Show your emotions.
Control it is actually what you should say.
Because as a man, it's something I study a lot.
It's having a presence of mind and then just this internal trying to be calm.
Make decisions and then not react immediately because you can make better decisions.
I don't always do well.
With that.
And maybe 10, 15 years ago, you know, a comment or something set me off.
I'd think about it, you know, keep me up at night.
No, it doesn't.
Matter of fact, I had beans with me.
And I took her into this little restaurant, this little Mexican restaurant, down the street from my house in Denison.
And I just, she sits on my lap and just, I mean, she doesn't do anything.
She just sits there and I'll eat a little bit and read, you know, at the end of the day.
And this guy had been drinking way too much.
He was a Gulf War veteran.
I found out he was telling me where he served in the Gulf War.
And he was a Marine.
And I said, oh, you look like a military man.
I said, I am.
I just wanted to eat.
I didn't want to eat and read.
I didn't want to talk.
And he just kept going.
I said, you know, what about your basic training?
What kind of basic training do you have?
Well, we, you know, he was, I went in the 80s and you could still get hit and beat up there.
And I said, yeah, well, you know, I had a tough drill sergeant, you know, in the Army.
He was, I love my drill sergeant.
He was an awesome guy.
Somebody I looked up to.
I didn't say much.
The guy kept going.
He said, well, you know, and then he made the point.
He said, if he'd just gone through a tougher basic training when they could still hit people, he wouldn't need that dog.
Talking about me.
Like I was, I need beans to like, you know, function or something.
And I just thought that was like 10 years ago.
I might have been like incensed by that.
I really want to call him out for, because first of all, like, you know, I did three.
Three wars, you know, and invaded countries.
I mean, it's a little bit different than Desert Storm.
I'll take anything away from that.
But I don't need my dog that way.
I want my dog.
I hang out with my dog.
And so it made me laugh.
And so I think that's where we can, I think it's a good thing.
Like, I start with that, especially if you're watching all these headlines.
And yeah.
You can be passionate, but there's a fine line.
You get too much, you can get pulled in.
This is exactly what they want.
Let's see.
Twisted Communique said, the Shah said, the West installed the Ayatollah.
Will the Ayatollah be taken out?
Or are we just cleaning house for him, taking out domestic secular hardliners?
Oh, that's an interesting question.
Yeah, it gives us an enemy, too, like the boogeyman.
1979, very critical year.
That's when Saddam Hussein came to power, too.
It's like, how far do they plan these things out?
Yeah, don't take that off the table.
We just need people to fight, according to the establishment.
Guard Goldsmith says, my grandfather didn't turn in his gold.
Of course he didn't.
That's fun.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You guys are great.
Anything else you want to shoot my way?
Go ahead before we close out.
Bob Earthday Honeybadger said, sadly, the controllers will have their war because they own the government.
Well, they may get their war, but I think if we do our job and we talk with people, not at them, we get information out.
It's hard to control a populace who doesn't believe.
You may have it for a while, but it's one of the things that the cultural Marxists learned.
When they were kicked out of Hitler's Germany in the 30s and fled here in the United States, it's known as the Frankfurt School.
And they were ardent Marxists, you know.
And they just saw the Soviet Union and said, that's not really what we are.
The people have to obey the government.
But they don't believe that's why they started the cultural revolution of cultural Marxism inside the universities.
And that's where you get the The 1960s was a direct correlation of the Frankfurt School and cultural Marxism because they wanted to start with the youth and make them believe it.
But you change your mind and it's hard for this stuff to stick.
And I think that a lot of their ideology is bankrupt because of that already.
I think they've gone too far.
Let me finish one more thing on this article or so and then I want to tell you about some things with DavidKnight.gold, some things I'm seeing.
I want to talk to you about Wolfpack.
Since I've got you here, we've got more than 1,200 people.
I don't know how many on Rumble, but I don't know if I can see that on this side.
We've got a great deal of people watching.
I'll talk to you about some of the stuff going on, how you can support David.
Where you can find me, all that good stuff, and keep this stream going.
This is MMT, Modern Monetary Theory, or as David calls it, the magic money tree.
For example, it's neither modern nor monetary nor a theory.
The fantasy of believing a nation can solve a debt crisis via more debt, which is then monetized by creating fake money, has been tried from ancient Rome.
In 1789 France to 1990s Yugoslavia, but as history confirms, it has failed every time.
Other such lying euphemisms, from the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security to the safe and effective of our now-pardoned-trust-the-science leadership, may be less economic, but they are also less dishonest by being far more about centralization than anything patriotic or security-driven.
In sum, so many lies, so many examples.
Yeah, I've said this for years.
When you, and that's why I call them Luciferian bankster notes, LBNs, if you're going, I'm betting against the system.
Period.
End of issue.
I'm betting against it.
I'm betting on, like, I don't hold a bunch of stocks.
I don't hold a bunch of interest.
I don't have a bunch of sponsors necessarily.
I sponsor myself.
And I'm betting against what the system has created.
Thank you.
And the fact that 99% of our nation is now openly distrusted by greater than 40% of the U.S. population.
Media outlets are owned by just five megacorporations.
Is it any wonder that such lies, as Mark Twain quipped, Can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting it on its shoes.
I always thought that quote was the truth was putting his pants on.
Gold is the ultimate lie detector.
Toward the end, we clearly know we are reaching an inflection point in the global financial system.
When even the liars have started to confess the truth, much of the truth is golden.
In recent reports, they warn the rising demand for physical gold over 2,000 tons from London to NYC in 2025 could send the European Union into collapse.
Did you see that?
The European Central Bank warned that gold is a threat to the system.
Because gold officially supplanted the euro as the second held most reserve asset by central banks.
It went from a pet rock to a massive threat to the global order.
Because you start monetizing in gold and it's a totally different world.
And you talk about budget constraints and other things.
You have to start showing your cards.
How much liquidity do you have?
You have to balance things again.
You just can't go to the printing press and create a new war or a new program or have open borders and all the stuff that we do.
He says, why?
Because the Eurozone, already teetering on skyrocketing debts and rising bond yields, hence the interest rates, doesn't have the money nor the goal to meet their 100 to 1 levered gold derivative contracts.
Hitherto, floating on the London and New York gold exchanges with a gross exposure of over $1 trillion.
He says, yes, $1 trillion.
Amen.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Wow.
Sadly, we've been warning of this derivative time bomb and COMEX insanity for years, yet only now the ECB is confessing its trillion-dollar problem out loud.
Well, war covers up a lot.
If you notice the war against its own people that they carried out in 2020, Rockefeller lockstep style, the lockdowns, the mirroring each other around the world doing the same things.
And that was a lot due to what was happening behind the scenes financially as well.
And notice that in 2020, the currency injections went from QE to QE Unlimited, as this article states.
Thank you.
Well, excellent piece, and I do think that this is like the end level of what Gresham's Law.
Gresham's Law states that when bad money enters a system, then good money goes into hiding.
And then the end game of that is that The bad money dies.
And then you're left with what we have now.
So, that is the changing economic landscape.
Ladies and gents, I appreciate all of you being here.
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You can sign up for any sort of updates or news, where to watch him live.
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And I heard from David yesterday I need to reply to him.
I just got in the studio early and I didn't want to wake him up.
I don't think you can wake David up when I get up.
He gets up earlier than me.
But I didn't want to disturb him.
So you guys, check that out.
Hey guys, I hope you can, let me know if you can hear me.
My internet cut off at my office in Branson.
So I've been trying to come back in for the past five minutes so I could close out the show.
So I won't have any of the intros.
YouTube would be a good way to do that.
I can't pull up any of the other sites.
I just need to close out okay, make sure you guys knew where to find me and where to find David and all the rest.
If you could let me know on YouTube, that would be great.
If you can hear me.
Hopefully you can.
It says that you're picking up my mic.
So anyway, thanks to everybody for tuning in.
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