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Telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
It's the David Knight Show.
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plays* Well, the clock struck 13, and this is Monday, the 16th of June, year of our Lord, 2025.
I'm Tony Arterburn.
I'm filling in once again for the great David Knight and also Travis Knight.
It's been a long time since I've hosted, and ladies and gentlemen, the equipment that I have has aged, a lot like me, but maybe not as gracefully, I hope.
A lot of the stuff I had doesn't work anymore, so I'm running the show.
Off a laptop.
And we're going to get through this.
It's kind of went from sophisticated to Fisher Price or something like that, but we're going to be just fine.
I've got the legendary Don Jeffries in the second hour.
I've got Billy Ray Valentine in the third.
Lots to cover.
I saw at least two real psyops in the last 48 hours we can dive into today.
Parapolitics, Precious Metals, all that good stuff for the next two days.
I believe we're going to have a very special guest on Tuesday, so tomorrow.
And I'll mention him in a second because it made me laugh this morning going through show research to see one of his tweet responses to Stephen King.
So anyway, glad to be back.
It's been way too long.
So much to cover.
So let's just jump right in.
We're streaming.
I got everything set up, if you can believe that.
We're on Rumble.
We're on BitChute Live.
I've never done a BitChute Live, but we're on BitChute Live today.
David's Twitter.
We're on my Twitter.
We're on my YouTube, at least for now until the overlords throw me off.
But let's jump right into some headlines.
I saw this and it really, I think this is a, it caught my attention as a teachable moment.
Yeah.
Let's start with the moniker, the nomenclature of the No Kings protest.
Now, did anybody catch that?
That was something interesting.
I just heard it drop like, you know, about a week or two ago.
And I started asking, what does that mean?
And then finally you kind of drill down to it and it's a, Maybe there is overreach, but that was, this is their push, right?
And it made me think about something, kind of the, and it's so funny when you do this kind of show research and you start thinking on like a line of logic, other things pop up.
I'll show you guys later, like the last article I have today.
It kind of ties in with how I'm going to start.
In an interesting way, like another point of view.
But when I heard the term, no kings, and this was a protest that was nationwide.
Okay, so it's nationwide, and it's coordinated.
Okay, and it's on Trump's birthday, and it's the same day he has his military parade, all that stuff, the ridiculousness of that.
But we're going to go into what that means.
Anyway, there's a Newsweek article.
How this flows into the manipulation of information, the manipulation of news, and what you're supposed to think.
Anyway, no kings, right?
And it made me think about the 18th century encyclopedias.
you know this is the 18th century like the the edge of what you would what would be later referred to as the enlightenment and you have people like Voltaire and you had the and Diderot had a quote, I read this like 20 plus years ago, but it always stuck with me.
It was that mankind would not be free until the last king was strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
And this is how those guys thought.
They were very anti-clerical, anti-religion.
They didn't dare not be Christian in some way because they couldn't replace the morals, they couldn't replace the tradition, they couldn't replace the structure of society, but they wanted to tear down what had made it.
And it's always stuck out in my mind because it was really the catalyst for things like the French Revolution.
And if you look at how just bloody and awful and godless it was, you know, and of course they...
And it'd be like the Church of Reason and other things.
But it was a major bloodletting.
As a matter of fact, I pulled up just for some historical fun before we get into the headlines.
During the French Revolution, various events led to significant loss of life.
This is between 1,176 and 1,614 people were killed in September alone of the Reign of Terror.
That was from 1793 to 94. Estimates suggest 20,000 to 40,000 people were killed.
Official death sentences, 16,594 were issued.
This was supposed to be, you know, The celebration of not having a king.
Marie Antoinette, who never actually said let them eat cake, she was beheaded.
And King Louis XVI was beheaded as well.
And there was all sorts of underlying historical forces going on there.
It's not just the surface level stuff.
Even Thomas Paine, who wrote Common Sense, you think of him as like an ally of the Enlightenment.
You know, the throwing off the Ancien regime, you know, all this historical forces that would produce somebody like Thomas Paine.
Well, they almost killed Thomas Paine.
I mean, that's how bloodthirsty they were.
And it was just an accident that somebody put the wrong marking on his cell door.
So Thomas Paine, you know, was over in Paris at the time.
almost lost his life.
So I watched that sort of Let me put this on the screen, just this Newsweek article.
I watched that sort of...
Do you really believe that?
Do you really believe, like, is that really what your, is that the basis of what your motivation is?
I highly doubt it.
Let me put this on the screen.
We'll just look at this article.
Just, you know, fun times to, the nomenclature always makes me.
Pause and think so.
Anti-Trump, no-Kings protests.
It spread across the nation.
Multiple groups carried out demonstrations against President Donald Trump's military parade in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, the most prominent of which was the no-Kings protests that spread to many states.
Well, you know, to have a coordinated nationwide protest, I hate to spoil all the fun, and I usually do, for politics, but It has to be funded.
You have to be funded.
It has to be coordinated by an upper-level management.
Nothing really truly is organic, ladies and gentlemen, especially when you talk about something that gets branded in a very short period of time.
You probably have Madison Avenue involved in this.
You've got news outlets, and I'm going to show you some real live.
Propaganda.
I mean, you guys have probably already seen it, but it's a lesson in mind control.
We're going to go over here in a second.
Several protests have already taken place against Trump and his administration's policy, especially in the aftermath of his decision to deploy the National Guard and Marines to Los Angeles.
Most of the protests in Los Angeles have been peaceful, but some have taken the opportunity to burn or vandalize property, loot, and throw projectiles at law enforcement.
Trump responded to these incidents with his military deployments, but doing so against the wishes of California Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Boss, escalating the situation and tensions with the Democratic leaders.
Similarly, the protests on Saturday have largely remained peaceful, with little interaction between law enforcement and protesters, but as the afternoon dragged on, tensions between Los Angeles and New York City started to rise and small clashes broke out.
Well, fun times, right?
And I don't think this is like a delayed reaction.
We're finally going to get what we were seeing in 2020, which, you know, coordinated efforts across the country, flying people back and forth, dropping off the pallets of bricks.
It's probably like a melding between high-level finance, intelligence, power structure, just trying to disrupt.
Whatever we have going on here in the country, so make sure we're never actually content or, you know, have a peaceful mindset so we can think and plan ahead and always going to keep up, kind of like a military operation.
Actually, it is a military operation for tempo, right?
Keeping the pace ahead of you so you can never really fully grasp what's going on.
They get to the next level, the next thing.
And if you're not, if you don't have any continuity, Of what happened 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago, if you just kind of go with the news cycles, then you're in trouble.
And I'll show you how much trouble you're in.
You go look at something like...
First, headline of Drudge, okay?
And we go through the Minnesota shooter.
I just want to show you this because this is what stuck with me as being...
You can show anybody, like, this is how propaganda is made.
This is Operation Mockingbird 2.0 or whatever you want to call it.
And the fractured legacy media, you know, and they've got outlets like Drudge, but it's the fracturing of that.
And even based off partisanship, it's harder and harder to.
Let me share this screen.
Let me just show you really quick the headline of Drudge because we're He's a MAGA maniac, okay?
You know, this goes, murders two different couples, lawmakers, in Minnesota, this, you know, evil nutjob.
But he's a MAGA maniac.
So if you're just tuning in to just going to scour the headlines and see before you actually read an article, if you want to look at what's happening, there's your MAGA maniac.
He's a devout Christian.
Voted for Trump.
Right?
That's what Drudge says.
He's a MAGA maniac.
So they just label him that.
If you voted for Trump or if you're considered on the right, whatever that means anymore, but conservative, if maybe you're a Christian, you put yourself in that camp.
Now you've got your own MAGA maniac.
That's what Drudge says.
But if you go to, I mean, just yesterday, just looking at the headlines, you know, going to places like Zero Hedge, let's pull up Zero Hedge.
Let's find a little bit more.
Drudge has right there.
We're going to go ahead and make that.
The NEWS, which, you know, the NEWS is an acronym.
It's North, East, West, and South.
It's the lay of the land.
It's what NEWS is supposed to mean, right?
You've got to get an accurate depiction of the lay of the land.
And so you're looking at it and saying, oh, okay, we've got ourselves a MAGA maniac here.
Well, not so fast.
Let's pull up Zero Hedge from yesterday.
And I think they updated it, which flows together with my first article.
No King's Terror.
Fake cop assassinates Minnesota Democrat who blocked health care for illegals.
Breaking.
left-wing Dem activist named in shooting of Minnesota moderate Dems.
A Democrat activist and 29...
2019 appointing of Governor Tim Walz.
This is, again, Vance Luther Bolter, a Democrat activist in 2019 and appointee of Governor Tim Walz, is the suspect in a targeted shooting of Minnesota lawmakers, Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman.
Both are moderate Democrats.
Would you keep scrolling down?
Bolter posed as a police officer when he first shot Senator John Hoffman and his wife at home early Saturday, leaving them seriously injured.
He then proceeded to the home of former Democratic House Speaker Melissa Hortman, where he fatally shot her and her husband.
Two shootings were located several miles apart in northern Minneapolis.
Police engaged the suspect in a hail of gunfire at Hortman's home, but he managed to escape on foot.
Screenshots from suspected Minnesota attacker Vance Luther Bolter's public LinkedIn before it was taken down.
Fourth image shows he indeed volunteered for the governor's Workforce Development Board in Minnesota.
It says Tim Walls has a lot of explaining to do.
You see where I'm getting with this?
Like, somewhere in the middle is the truth, right?
So it's in the extreme you've got, he's a MAGA maniac.
And on the other side, it's like we're preloaded to try to keep any kind of mass shooter or defective person out of whatever desired camp.
We've got to keep them out of that.
But it's interesting.
I mean, it's probably more, I think the zero hedge leans more into the truth of where it actually is.
But that's how the mind control works.
But he's also running it.
Of course he is.
This, just like, you know, mid, what, summertime.
We got a year ago.
We're coming up on a year since the assassination attempt.
The first one on Trump in Pennsylvania.
And then you have the guy that they caught in the bushes with an AK at the golf course.
I forget his name offhand, but he was clearly tied to NGOs and intelligence.
He was recruiting people from around the world, like recruiting Afghans to get them to go fight in Ukraine.
And if you listen to the guy speak, I'm like, oh, that's an operator.
There's a certain mindset and dialect that a lot of those people have that I've heard before.
They also have that same kind of spirit of just war for the sake of it.
It's their raison d 'etre.
It's their whole purpose.
So they've really given their life over to a deity they worship, and it's like hot wars.
they got to get into them.
You can hear it in the people, especially if, you know, He's very much like he has a reflexive.
It's painful for him to hear like anything that is peaceful or anti-war or getting out of places that are no win or something like he has a reflexive physical reaction to like getting out of Afghanistan or leaving Iraq or I've seen him answer questions on it, which is interesting.
There's a spirit to it.
So this is what the advanced bolter was running.
This international NGO is called the Red Lion Group.
Reading this description of what they're supposedly trying to do reads like pure NGO fraud and this guy was trying to siphon a salary at an expense account.
Well, this NGO stuff, non-governmental organization, which, you know, they get international, they get 5013C stat or whatever they get.
Right back to intelligence, ladies and gentlemen.
He was also connected to a Minnesota entity called You Give Them Something to Eat Incorporated.
Well, fun times, right?
This is...
the passport was found in the rebel, you know, They leave these clues like breadcrumbs.
Wasn't the...
I should do, like, a Paratruthers series.
Myself and Mr. Anderson talk about it all the time.
There's just so much to break down.
Like how great, like the, they left, the hijackers left in the rental car, like a copy of the Quran and a couple of the, like, Yeah.
The New York Post noted that Bolter left behind a manifesto listing the names of 70 politicians, including Walls and his lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan.
And a stack of papers stating no kings in reference to the nationwide anti-Trump protest.
But he's a mega maniac.
Yeah, that's...
See, this is like colonizing your mind.
This is what it's supposed to do.
Or pick up on people who won't.
You're just going to be captured by that fulcrum of whatever that outlet wants you to think.
That's how important it is for you to not believe anything like that.
Just start with that's a lie and then reverse engineer it.
Just walk it backwards.
How much truth is in that headline?
And by the way, that filters into financial headlines as well and clickbait.
That's why shows like this The David Knight Show is a treasure.
And I've known David for years.
And the amount of research that he does, and Travis does, and the amount of thinking that has to go into a three-hour show.
First of all, David comes from a place of just wanting to know the truth, just wanting to seek that.
And I know his character.
And I've seen him and I've watched it in the face of pressure and like the Those of us who are trying to have some discernment in this world where you're trying to be the best analyst you can be in the face of all the partisanship and the propaganda and the nonsense.
Yeah, you have to watch your audience leave, which is really tough to do.
As a broadcaster, I've been in radio since 2013.
It was my first show out of Dallas.
And I enjoy radio.
I've listened to radio since I was a kid.
I love podcasting.
I love radio.
I like the spoken word.
I like the ideas.
And I know how I've watched people that I was with, you know, get syndicated and everything else.
But I didn't believe what they believed.
And by the way, they weren't right.
But that doesn't matter.
It's because you get to watch.
you have to, if you stick with principle and that's why I'm so honored to, to fill in for David when I can.
And, uh, hopefully, And that's just a small example of the type of psychological warfare that we're up against.
You have to clear through so much of the headlines.
That's why David is such a treasure.
All right, let's jump into this little bit of financial stuff.
And you guys watched, and we're going to talk in this show and probably tomorrow too, but about the Israeli strike on Iran and the war pigs that want to get at the neocon automatons for Satan who want us to jump high level into a new, unwinnable, unconstitutional war.
Let me pull this up.
Let's talk a little finance real quick.
And this is in direct correlation of what happened post-strike on Iran.
This is Kitco.
Safe haven disconnect.
And there's a reason I picked this article over like the other seven.
The other seven articles that talked about why gold spiked after the strike.
And some of that, you know, it's just typical stuff that gold does, but there's something else.
Safe haven disconnect.
Gold soars while the dollar stalls.
Conflict has once again erupted in the Middle East following Israeli attacks on Iran.
Surprisingly, however, the global economy has remained relatively unshaken as financial markets have not responded in the way one might have predicted, an outcome that could carry significant implications for gold moving forward.
As expected, Israel's preemptive strike triggered a sell-off in equity markets and a spike in oil prices.
Safehaven demand pushed gold prices to their highest level since April's all-time record high of $3,500.
Yet the biggest surprise is that bond yields and the U.S. dollar have barely moved.
Okay?
That's the reason why I chose this article.
That's the tell.
Because the system...
We've seen that time and time again.
But the metrics and all the stuff that used to work, like when you raise interest rates like Jerome Powell has, like you could lose the price of gold supposed to go down like it did in 2011 when there was some – It doesn't happen anymore.
Now you're seeing that the U.S. dollar and the bond yields, they don't move.
The gold market is ending the week with a 3.7% gain while the U.S. dollar appears poised to close the week with a 1% loss, trading in its lowest level in roughly three years.
The weakness in the U.S. dollar is surprising given the current environment.
The U.S. economy is generally viewed as a stable anchor for the global economy.
When fear rises, investors traditionally seek safe assets to preserve capital.
Typically, U.S. dollars and treasuries long considered top-tier safe haven assets.
In such scenarios, safe haven demand typically drives both the U.S. dollar and gold higher in tandem.
See, they're decoupling.
This is where you get to see, like, stress tests for the global monetary system.
What we've just taken for granted, like, well, today will be like yesterday, because that's what the day before was like and all the rest.
And, like, you can get normalcy bias.
It sneaks up on you.
This is how rapidly the global financial system is changing, even in the face of something that, I talked to my good friend who's about to be over in the Middle East and travels a lot because he works for a large oil company and a really, really smart guy.
I talked to him about geopolitics and the price of crude and where it's going and energy and all the rest.
And we're on the same page.
This is in a CA, especially if something happens with the Strait of Hormuz.
You know, a further widening of the war, which could be already baked into all this.
I mean, that's maybe what the planners want to do.
This is the opening round of Salvo, whatever it is.
We have to really pay attention to the headlines here, and I'll be talking with Donald Jeffries here in the second hour.
He's got a new article out.
I want to touch on this as well, but there's a lot to unpack.
The point of this in this article, the reason I brought it up, was the change.
They're subtle.
It's kind of like you go back to 2022.
You have Russia invade Ukraine, finally goaded by NATO to do that.
They just pushed into that, in my opinion, and that was the point of it.
And sanctions were placed in this massive fall in the purchasing power of the ruble.
And ruble just has this free fall.
All of a sudden, there's this reset in Russian financial policy, and then they talk about pegging some of the ruble to gold or so many grams based off so many rubles.
It happens within 90 days.
But during that time, the U.S. dollar starts to lose its hegemony.
I mean, it went from high 50s in usage around the world to low 40s.
And that continues to happen.
That's called de-dollarization.
And, uh, this is a good example.
The world.
And it's funny because I was talking to Travis last week and I'd been, I'd covered this like a year ago, but they put out the article that said that, um, gold supplanted the Euro as the second held most, So the euro used to be number two.
Now it's gold.
Number one is the dollar.
So only one more to go.
Gold is already the world's reserve currency, folks.
I said that on tinfoil hat in December.
I'm like, I really believe that.
It's just in name only.
They're still denominated and having to do business in dollars.
Nobody's running into the dollar.
Not like that.
Not like it used to.
Just like this article said, used to be safe haven and now no longer.
Yeah.
The weakness in the U.S. dollar is surprising given the current environment.
The U.S. economy is generally viewed as a stable anchor for the global economy.
When fear rises, Investors traditionally seek safe haven assets to preserve capital.
This time, however, gold appears to be climbing alone.
Over the past few months, markets have increasingly questioned America's reliability as a trading partner.
Since President Donald Trump's Liberation Day, investors have been reluctant to buy U.S. debt, anticipating that trade war will lead to higher inflation and slower growth.
The global economy has suffered trillions in losses as bond yields rose from 3.98% before April to current levels of around 4.42%.
We are now beginning to see the real consequences of this erosion of faith in the United States.
As fear escalates, there are fewer perceived safe harbors.
Gold continues to shine as the most attractive safe haven asset free from geopolitical third-party risk.
In a world where old certainties are unraveling, gold isn't just a hedge against inflation or volatility.
It's becoming a refuge from a system in flux.
Well, that's exactly what it is.
A system in flux and, of course, a system that is being replaced.
That's what the Great Reset is all about.
They even have a name for it.
Alright.
Let me go to the chat really quick.
If you'll forgive me, I'm on my laptop.
So much fun.
I've got to go by.
I'm going to send Houston out.
I'm going to get all new.
I'm going to get some new equipment for both Texas and Missouri.
By the way, I'm broadcasting out of beautiful Branson, Missouri, this morning along with my co-pilot and co-host, Beans the Brave, which is my 12 and a half pound, maybe she's had some treats lately, my chihuahua mix who travels the world with me.
I woke up in my cabin this morning, my acreage, and drove in and just having a time looking through these headlines with you, ladies and gents.
Always a fun, fun day.
Alright, I'm over on Rumble.
It's good to see everybody.
David has a very active chat.
There's a KWD68.
America's been involved in every war, assassination, civil unrest, and regime change since 1945.
Yes, you are correct.
Yep.
Since 1945, that's a good place to start.
I was talking to my son.
He asked me, have we had any years of peace, Dad, like in the last 150 years?
And I said, well, from 1945 to about 1947.
Because in 1947, you got the National Security State.
That was the NSC document 68 that Harry Truman signed.
And that's what gave birth to the CIA, the NSA, the Air Force, a few other entities.
But that was really the birth of the national security state, and that was on the heels of Roswell.
And other factors that, you know, the emergence of the Soviet Union is an atomic power.
And, of course, 1949, you get the fall of...
Mainland China to the communists.
No, we precipitated Korea.
Let me see.
There was a comment over on Rumble.
You thinking we can expect another false flag attack to garner the sheepless support for another Mideast war?
Well, that's my fear.
It's like the sum of all fears for me is...
partisanship really is where independent thinking where wisdom goes to die.
Partisanship is where you And it is really terrifying to watch, especially you can see that in the.
It's why I think they like whatever MAGA is like molding it into whatever.
It's very dangerous because you have people that you've got Kash Patel and Dan Bongino sitting there like, you know, Epstein did kill himself.
And we can't really release the files, but he really did.
and then you got people like yes, FBI is on our side I'm like that's I think that's how dangerous politics is especially if you're
And if you're outside of the system looking at it, saying, this is not my America, this is not the country, this is not the republic that I want to serve, I don't understand this, we're going to be in some useless satanic war.
Because that's what it is.
I mean, it's a ritualistic thing.
It's awful.
I can't, there is no, um, They are all inside the borders.
I mean, yeah, you just have to look at how foreign policy works.
but if you talk about the Middle East or, um, we have to hit a target or we have to invade or do regime chance, absolute nonsense.
And, um, but you see like people like Pompeo and, uh, They're just coming out like, oh, now look for the terror event, you know, because Israel hit Iran.
Look for the terror event in the U.S. You know, a little known, I want to talk to Billy Ray Valentine about this in the third hour, but I remember something.
This is funny about having a memory.
January 6th.
In 2020, there was a report that there would be a bombing and or some sort of terror attack by Iranian terror cells, Sleeper cells, right?
How they know this is...
This was an intel.
You can go look it up.
This was dropped a couple of days before, but it was scheduled for the 6th.
Of course, it never happened.
But that's what they were dropping.
Iranian terror cells were going to hit the U.S. January 6, 2020, in response to the killing of General Soleimani a year earlier.
I covered that on the David Knight Show in Austin, filling in for David.
That was a big day.
That was an act of war.
You know, we'd taken out this prominent Iranian official, and Trump had done that unilaterally, you know, with, I think, drone.
I think they used to drone or something like that.
It was a targeted attack.
And the blowback from that, that's, you know, even, you know, a great deal of these terror networks, if we've learned by things like Al-Qaeda.
Which means the database, right?
It doesn't mean the base.
It means the database.
Or ISIS or, you know, people like John McCain would stand there and, you know, have pictures with people in ISIS.
What we learned is that they are controlled.
They have some control by intelligence.
They can be steered for regime change or boogeyman and other things.
But blowback's a real thing.
I mean, you look at the concept, you can get the populations motivated to...
And that's really sad because the American people aren't that way.
But it's really sad to watch the public opinion, too.
Like, if you look at public opinion, that's why it's such a good question on a false flag.
I think they've done polls.
Like 80% of Americans or so that get polled online, they don't want anything to do with a Middle Eastern war.
So why do we keep getting involved in them?
I mean, I know why, but it's the small majority of lawmakers, well, not necessarily lobbyists, let's put it that way.
Lawmakers are pretty much lockstep for war and crossed both aisles.
But you have this small group of special interests that push you into war, and then the people are left completely out, because Congress abdicated its power a long time ago.
Shield Your Eyes says, Radical Islam is really a myth as far as threats to national security goes.
Yes, it is.
It is.
And only so much as we make it a threat.
I see you in the comments.
I know what you want me to do.
You guys are funny.
All right.
Let me get on this last article on LewRockwell.com.
I saw one of the comments.
I may not have, have has live everywhere.
Maybe tomorrow I might have this up on DLive and Kik.
I just saw that comment.
So that's on me.
All right.
I found this one interesting.
It's a good piece over on Lou Rockwell, and we're about to be joined by...
Always fun to talk to.
You know what's funny?
Before I have Don, I never know what I'm going to talk to him about.
He just shows up and we just roll.
He's that good.
Let's put this.
And you'll see where I tied into the first 20 minutes of the show.
This is LewRockwell.com, a parade for Trump.
And it's Eric S. Margolis.
This came out today.
This is the last American military parade that I saw was the inauguration of President Dwight Eisenhower in 1953.
It's not counting my days in the U.S. Army.
It was a hell of a show.
What impressed me most was the giant M65-203mm atomic cannon that was wheeled up Washington's Pennsylvania Avenue.
I was so deeply impressed by General Eisenhower.
There was no huff or puff with him, no wildly inflated claims, no bluster, no efforts to lay the groundwork for a military-run regime.
None of what the Soviets used to call Bonapartism.
Just a real soldier who served America proud and became the finest president of modern times.
I still like Ike.
But I also detest militarism and fake patriotic warmongering.
Every spring, I walk the blood-soaked battlefields of World War I in France and sick at heart by the botchery and stupidity of the First Great Modern War.
Having been a GI and covered 14 wars and conflicts as a news correspondent, I hate all forms of militarism, flag-waving, and patriotic oratory.
Just for a second, this reminds me of Gore Vidal, who was a World War II veteran, and the way he said it was like, no one ever said a patriotic thing.
It's just an awful duty you have to carry out.
Only weirdos.
Kind of like those operators.
That operator speak.
Like the guy that was in the bushes at the golf course with an NGO.
They love that kind of stuff.
Except one.
This is funny.
Except one that he says is worth the patriotic flag-waving oratory.
France's Bastille Day on 14 July.
Much as I am an ardent anti-militarist, few things thrill or move me as much as seeing France's mass soldiers and firefighters marching down lovely Champs-Élysées and the thunder of hooves of the armed cavalry of the Republican Guard.
What a magnificent spectacle.
It reminds me of what another great president, Thomas Jefferson, said.
Every man has two homelands, his own and France.
Who has a beating heart that cannot be moved by the mighty strains of the Les Marseilles?
France's national anthem, which was originally called the War Song of the Army of the Rhine.
Yeah, the 1812 Overture has that in it, too.
Yeah, the 1812 Overture is not about the War of 1812.
It's about the Russians expelling Napoleon.
From Moscow.
Bastille marked the beginning of democracy and human rights for the world.
The French Revolution also brought the terror and the Napoleonic Wars, but it's still an epical moment in mankind's history.
Without great amounts of financial and military aid from France, the United States might not have gained its independence.
It might still be ruled by the same bunch of nincompoops in London who have brought Great Britain so low.
Well, in many ways it is because you have the banking institutions and CFR.
Ironically, France's gross overspending on supporting the American Revolution led directly to its own revolution in 1789 that overturned its monarchy.
All of which is true.
This week we'll see a newly minted military extravaganza in Washington whose real purpose is to glorify a president who avoided military service in Vietnam due to a questionable foot problem.
As a veteran, this fake triumphal parade leaves me feeling unwell.
militarized politics, just what recent past presidents have avoided.
I had been accepted to a PhD At Britain's Cambridge University that would have kept me out of military service.
But in an admittedly quixotic act, I enlisted in the regular army to serve in the infantry in Vietnam.
Fate kept me in the U.S. teaching senior officer strategy and tactics, but I had at least done my duty as a citizen.
In retrospect, Vietnam was a lousy, unjust imperial war, but I had served my country, which had given New life to both my parents.
I limp through Army basic and advanced infantry training with a broken bone in my left foot, unlike our current commander-in-chief.
I wish the government would spend the estimated $45 million earmarked for this ego fest on wounded veterans.
You know, you find this a lot.
I like this article.
And you find this a lot in people that actually...
Speaking to a friend of mine the other day, I was talking about a book that I loved written by a World War II veteran.
It's a well-known historian named William Manchester.
It's called Goodbye Darkness.
He's about my age or a little bit older at the time, so he's getting up there.
He decides he's going to go back to the battlefields that he fought in the Pacific as a Marine in World War II.
He's flying over there.
He's retracing his steps.
It's just haunting because he's reliving a lot of the stuff that he went through as a young man.
I love that book because it Really is not painting some picture about how glorious things were or whatever, but you still have the pull of being proud of certain things and seeing certain things or the value of the fighting spirit.
So it really is a push-pull.
And I like the subtle jabs because I do not like militarism either, especially in the face of We literally have, like, multiple psyops going on.
Who's funding that?
Side note, I was with Melissa on Saturday, and we had an event at our gym here just outside of Branson.
And she was tweeting something, and you can go look at her.
She's MoArcWildWoman on Twitter.
And she asked Grok, like, Who funded No Kings?
And it doesn't answer.
It never answered.
Like three different tweets.
Who funded it?
Which is always what you should always ask first.
Who funded it?
Where does the funding come from?
That's always the case, right?
We just get the effect, but not the cause.
Alright.
Let's go over I had this pulled out.
This will make you laugh.
Just a little bit of levity this morning.
Hopefully it's still up there.
Oh, no.
Let me see if I can find it.
I think the Twitter reset.
Oh, that's unfortunate.
Let me see if I can pull up Charlie's.
Because we're going to have the great Charlie Robinson on tomorrow.
Host of Macroaggressions.
Author of The Octopus of Global Control and The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire.
I may have to just paraphrase it.
I may have to paraphrase it.
Yeah, I lost it.
I lost the tweet.
Anyway, there was a tweet up by Stephen King talking about different myths.
It's too good.
Let me see if I can just type it in and find Stephen King.
It was just so good.
If you want a good laugh.
Courtesy of Charlie, by the way.
It's so funny when you find something you like and then it's hard to get it back.
Okay, this is what Stephen King said.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is no Santa Claus, no tooth fairy, also no deep state, and vaccines aren't harmful.
These are stories for small children and those too credulous to disbelieve them.
And my friend Charlie Robinson replied, you sound vaccinated.
Oh, my God.
Oh, Charlie.
I look forward to having him on.
We'll be fun.
We'll talk about that tweet and more tomorrow.
Let's go over some...
I like to go to Gold Telegraph and see what Gold Telegraph's got going on.
One of the most fascinating stories of our time right now is that if you look at the Do you realize that the Federal Reserve Bank, it posts losses in the hundreds of billions.
I think it got up to like a 900 and some odd billion dollar loss last year.
And I guess I just find that fascinating because The people that make the money lost money.
Just so much fun.
That's the kind of, and of course they don't put it that way on financial, it's got to be very complicated.
It's not that complicated.
You lost money and you make the money.
You literally make it out of nothing and you lost money.
I just, crazy.
Gold approaching $35.50 in U.S. dollar terms.
Let me put this up.
Let's look at some gold telegraph headlines.
Always fun.
Great account over there.
Let's see.
While we're waiting for Don, just a few more minutes, we'll have the great Donald Jeffries over here.
Yeah, this is one of the great stories.
And I'm seeing this.
I've actually looked into this.
I have posted this before, but it's worth highlighting again.
This is a gold ATM in China.
It melts the gold and transfers the amount corresponding to its weight to your bank account.
Gold Telegraph says the future is calling.
These kind of things, I think, are when you start to see Gold, I mean, it is already getting there.
And I have two gold and silver locations.
And I promise you, like, the urban gold mining is starting to go on.
People are going to garage sales.
People are going to thrift stores.
People are finding.
And that's true of silver, too.
I mean, with silver past, you know, $36 an ounce, there's going to be silver, urban silver mining as well.
And you can get in on that.
If you make some extra money, that's a...
Making extra money by just being...
If you need help, you want to learn how to buy a little bit of gold, just put an ad out that you buy gold.
You can do that.
It's a great way to make a little bit of extra money.
Or go find it yourself.
Just go hunting and pecking.
It's fun.
Sometimes I think about the term gold bug and how people mocked anyone serious about gold as crazy.
Now it's the world's second largest reserve asset and a key piece on the geopolitical chessboard.
It says, today with everything unfolding, it's almost reckless not to pay attention.
Well, that's true.
And what's weird is that the traditional legacy finance and everything, there's so much that's going to get left behind.
And that's why I think, I've been watching this really closely on the other end of the spectrum, another part of my business, which is Bitcoin.
You have BlackRock and Larry Fink and all these people, these big players, these hedge fund people.
Slowly, not necessarily slowly on BlackRock's part, but some of the other wealth funds are looking at Bitcoin and you see all these treasury companies popping up.
We're hitting, gold's part of this, silver's part of this, but we're hitting an era where there's moving away from the fiat experiment.
You have to understand, like, that's an experiment.
1971, Nixon goes off the gold standard, takes us off the gold standard, closes the gold window, so we have a free-floating fiat currency.
That's an experiment.
The average lifespan is about 26 years in history.
They all go to zero.
We can't go to zero.
I mean, the lights go out.
So, like, they have to do something.
be, but they can't continue just to print because that's just debasement into oblivion.
I think Somebody will do something, if we still lead.
It might be the BRICS nations that do it.
We might just be so distracted by cultural Marxism and mental illness that we can't get anything done anymore, which would be terrible.
But the world's going to reset the monetary system, and it'll have maybe a basket of – It has to change, though, and the inverse is really the only option because just expanding the bubble, and maybe that's where stablecoins come in and it's where the danger of a backdoor central bank digital currency as well.
But that's what we cover over on the Art of Burn radio transmission, so go subscribe to my show if you can.
We're going to be coming up with a new show.
Very soon on geopolitics, precious metals, bitcoin.
It's going to be a weekly thing.
I'll let you know once a week.
We're going to announce that pretty soon.
Working on it.
Let me see if we've got Don yet.
Not quite.
Mr. Jeffries likes to jump in right at the last minute.
He's a lot of fun.
I was going to go back to the, check on the comments.
Thank you.
As free-thinking Florida moms on my exes, there are solutions to this nonsense going on.
David has interviewed Dr. Shiva and the application of system science as a way out of this slavery to a broken system.
Please revisit this with him.
I don't, yeah, when's the last time?
He's been on the show.
you guys can get them back on.
Nibiru Nibiru2029 said, if you own gold today, the government will own it tomorrow.
Let's hope not.
That's why I don't really...
My thing, we already have a gold standard ourselves.
It's almost like when the government itself...
Actually, there's no example.
And if you look at something like what happened in 1933, and this is where you have some wisdom here in your statement, is that it became illegal for you to own gold in the United States.
It wasn't until 1974, Gerald Ford, I think coming up on Christmas Eve, made it, in 1974, made it legal, free to own gold.
So all that whole time we were on a gold standard, you know, in the 1933 and onward, it was illegal for you to own gold.
Thank you.
I need to get my chat as healthy as David's chat.
Thank you.
Let me go back and check and see if Don's hearing it.
There he is.
Who's Mr. Jeffries?
Donald Jeffries.
How you doing, Tony?
Good to see you.
It's been a while.
Yeah, it's been a while.
I'm getting an echo.
Are you?
For me.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you want to try coming back in?
It might be just your audio.
Do you want to try to reset it and come back in?
It should be okay.
Sometimes we have to do this.
Sometimes we have to reset the audio, folks.
That's what you do when you're your own producer.
I need to have a Travis or a Whistler.
How about now, Don?
Okay.
Now I still hear it.
Really?
Yeah.
It's just an echo when you speak?
Yes.
But not me.
No, not you.
You want me to try clicking on the link again?
Yeah, maybe try that.
Yeah, I'm not so sure why you would have an echo, sir.
Okay, okay.
All right, folks, stand by.
We'll see if we can get Don back in here.
If not, we'll see if we can power through it with his echo.
That's really, I mean, you try to do shows and you can't, like, it's hard to hear yourself, too.
I've done that, and it's pretty maddening, so I don't want to drive Don insane.
Okay, okay, is this working?
Still?
Well, I guess I'm doing it.
Well, I guess I'm doing it.
just get distracted.
We'll have, you know, if you wanted to, you could go You wouldn't have the headphones.
I mean, you just have a different kind of audio.
You could do it on your phone, Don.
Yeah, I could try.
If you wanted to try that.
Let me just try this.
Change the setting here again.
I don't think it is.
Yeah, I think you're I can't hear you there yet, Don.
This is like me every week now.
No, I still have it.
It's bizarre.
Let me just try my...
Okay.
Okay, okay.
Can people hear that?
Yeah, I can hear you, Don.
You still get an echo with that?
Do you really?
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Maybe you can text me.
See if you can try it one more time with your USB mic since I stopped the screen.
See if that helped.
Just making sure.
And if not, we'll...
Okay.
Okay.
Do you want me to text it to you, Don?
Yeah, I guess.
Okay.
Let me see what I can do.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
Thanks.
That's all right.
Here's what I'll do.
Let's see.
If you have an echo when I remove my microphone, see if you still have an echo.
Hello, how are you?
No, I don't have an echo now.
Alright, you cover the show really quick and talk about your new article that's up on Lew Rockwell.
I was going to talk about your new article that's up right now, and then I'll send you a link and you can come back in through your phone.
Okay, okay.
Well, good to see everybody out there.
I'm seeing there's people in the chat here.
I hope you guys should be able to hear me okay now.
I don't know what's going on here, but they I haven't.
I don't know.
Maybe it's part of a shadow ban or whatever.
But yeah, I hope those of you who are not subscribed to me on Substack will do so.
It's donaldjeffries@substack.com.
It's called I Protest, just like my weekly live streaming podcast on these same fine platforms from 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. Eastern.
You can go there.
My latest one is about the mostly peaceful protesters, which I guess turned out to be pretty much a big nothing.
and kind of juxtaposed against the military parade, which I think kind of unfairly, it was kind of a strange coincidence that it coincided with Trump's birthday, but it was actually planned before that.
It was a Okay, hopefully not now.
Let me know in the chat if you can hear an echo now.
Yeah, it should be gone now.
Because I can't hear it anyway.
But, you know, so that was really a military thing that was planned.
It's still pretty stupid, I think, and it's not a good look.
I'm not sure why you would want to celebrate the military at this point, maybe when, you know, we're getting ready to go into World War III.
Oh, good.
Here, it's gone.
Thank you for your thinking.
But, and that was, and then you have the kind of theatrics, the Trump and Stein thing, where Trump is kind of, And of course, the other side is saying that Trump's rally was a big nothing burger and that he's mad and was upset because the No Kings rally had more people.
Who knows?
I don't know.
They're both pretty stupid, to be honest with you.
And again, it kind of illustrates the...
And I said in my article, it's as if I was right about the Trumpetstein project, and there's a director offstage that is telling Trump, okay, now we want you to do exactly what people think Hitler would do.
Because that's what it was, basically.
I mean, he's sitting there saluting the tanks and everything.
You know, it's just ridiculous.
It was not a good look.
But, so again, that's, and I will definitely be addressing, I'll be writing in the next couple of days, I'll definitely be talking about the Iran-Iraq, the Iran-Israel conflagration, which, you know, it's very interesting that, once again, you know, this is, Unequivocally, Israel started this.
They struck first, and yet they're probably still using the same defense that, you know, Israel has a right to defend themselves.
Defend themselves for what?
You did, and not only that, Marjorie Taylor Greene is lost now.
She had a beautiful tweet out there where she was saying this is really stupid to be supporting Iran and everything.
But I mean, to be supporting Israel at this point.
But they did this in the middle of what were supposed to be peace talks.
They were supposed to be negotiating peace and Israel launches a Pearl Harbor type attack.
And then they wonder.
How much of this is real?
I don't know.
There are people out there who believe this is all staged.
I had Susan Olson on my show yesterday.
Those of you who don't know, she was Cindy Brady on the Brady Bunch.
She's a good friend of mine and very awake.
And she's always a great guest.
But she was one of those people who kind of believes maybe the stuff in California was staged.
And she was talking about, you know, a lot of people think that these videos are from a previous date.
That they're not live.
So who knows?
And she lives in California.
She's not necessarily near there.
She's not in Los Angeles.
But she said, you know, I didn't see any signs of it.
So who knows how much of this is scripted and theatrical.
But all we know is that when the dust settles, as always, I don't make any predictions.
I'm not going to be like Alex Jones and, you know, come on, closer to World War III than we've ever been, which he does pretty much every show for the last five years or so.
I'm not going to do that because I don't know.
They've been holding back on this, thank goodness, for a long time.
And I hope they continue to just use the fear porn.
But I get the sense that I could be wrong because they could come up with a Pearl Harbor type false flag that will convince the masses.
Remember, back before Pearl Harbor, American public opinion was dead set against us entering.
The European war, World War II.
And you had lots of the left was involved in the America First movement, which I loved when Trump used to say America First.
Now, you know, he hasn't said America First for a long time.
Make America Great Again, that's not the same thing.
America First was definitely a shout out to that movement, which was a great movement.
And it consisted mostly of left-wing people, classical liberals of the day, who most of them had their careers ruined.
By Franklin Roosevelt and the earliest example of cancel culture that we can find.
But so, you know, here we are.
Are we on the brink of World War III?
I don't know.
But I do think that it looks on the surface like Israel may not be quite the match for Iran by themselves.
You know, it's like this is a boxing match and they stepped in the ring.
It's like with Buster Douglas against Mike Tyson.
You know, Buster Douglas is knocking him down, you know, and it's like.
I really think that because it looks like, again, to whatever degree this is real, then it looks like they're inflicting some damage on Israel and giving at least as good as they're getting.
And so clearly Israel is calling for our big brother, us.
I don't mean big brother, but the big brother that always defends them against the Arabs who just have a...
I mean, we've created the third most powerful military in the world in Israel.
Israel is about the size of Rhode Island.
So without us, they are nothing.
And I'm not saying I want that to happen, but they would have been overrun by all those angry Arabs a long time ago.
Without us, the only thing that has kept them afloat is our military technology, our military assistance, when we need to be.
And that, right now, apparently, they need more.
They need, and, you know, will Trump, do you have any confidence Trump is going to stand up to them?
Who knows?
Maybe if I was Iran, I still hear it.
You want to go ahead and try off, I texted you the link on your cell phone.
You want to come back in, Don?
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Okay.
I'd hate to cut you off.
You're doing so good, but I wanted to.
You're right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
We'll wait for Don to come back.
Yeah, this, I was thinking of just while he was speaking about the history of, you know, Israel and the wars that it's been in.
And it really is kind of a counterintuitive thing.
what threatens Israel's nation states.
You go back to 1967 and the Six-Day War, and that's where you get, that was at the same time at the USS Liberty, you know, trying to bring that in through a, you know, false flag operation, trying to widen that because that was, Israel was on the brink of, Of losing its nation estate.
I mean, it's losing its sovereignty because the Arab states around it were pushing for its destruction.
Same thing in 1973 with the Yom Kippur War.
And that just happened to find a very inebriated Richard Nixon holed up in the Lincoln sitting room.
Getting very angry that he had to deal with that at the same time as his presidency was taken apart by Watergate and the Deep State.
And he decided to, he just basically, drinking Johnny Walker Scotch, told Kissinger and others that they better let the Russians know, let the Soviets know, and of course their counterparts, like Egypt, that if Israel is invaded, that he'll drop the big one.
And that's pretty much what saved Israel.
And then there was some flights and other things.
But he used some military aid and some rushed things in there.
But it was really the threat of U.S. intervention.
So Don is absolutely correct.
And that's a long lineage of Israeli foreign policy and the U.S. being unfortunately joined at the hip.
Let me add Don to see you.
How do we sound now, Don?
Okay.
No, I still have an Echo.
Are you on another device?
Are you still logged into your other computer?
No, I left the computer.
That's bizarre.
Well, you know what?
Here's what I want to do, Don.
I want you to come back in on the computer like you're comfortable.
I'll just hop off the stream and let you finish because you were making so much sense.
I'll just join the comments.
You want to do that?
We'll put Professor Jeffries back in for the rest of the hour.
I'll go, I'll jump in the chat.
I understand it.
Why don't we just do that?
Go back to your article.
Thank you, sir.
We'll do that, ladies and gents.
We're going to wait for Don Jeffries to pop back in.
These are the fun times of the technical difficulties.
Everything updated.
As a matter of fact, not that this is boring, It'll work on Zoom calls, but not this show.
And then I couldn't hear them, and then last week they couldn't hear me, so I'd do it on my phone.
So fun times.
We're working on it.
Anyway, but that's...
And, you know, look at the history of it.
And then I was thinking of, was it, I think it was 1983, I could be wrong about that.
It was close to that.
It was Osiric, which, you know, the Iraqis were working with the French on a nuclear reactor, and the Israelis just blew it up.
And the reason is because they already, you know, they don't want nuclear proliferation, even though they were proliferating nuclear weapons.
So, you know, through us, by the way, it's another.
And Don can speak to this about.
But the U.S. and the Israelis have a long history, unfortunately, with intertwined, not mutual interest, by the way, not at all mutual interest, but very much intertwined foreign policy.
And that is the rub.
Let me put on Don.
Don, I'm just going to let you continue.
I was going to say...
The Israelis just blew it up.
I talked about the USS Liberty, you know, back in 67, with, you know, it's kind of a false flag to pull the U.S. in, or, you know, Lyndon Johnson covered that up, but also the nuclear proliferation.
I just threw that out there.
So all this, you know, with...
So anyway, I'll let you, I'll let you go and, and, and finish and I will, uh, I'll be in the chat with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Keep me on target.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
Thanks.
Thanks very much.
Thanks to Tony for understanding.
And I'm sorry.
I can't believe that he thinks my voice is coming out of Tony's end.
So it gives it though.
I don't know.
I don't know what it is, but it's, it's really bizarre that it, uh, it was working on, uh, You know, the same thing, I was having that effect on the phone as well.
But anyway, I think it's, you know, what I find amazing at this point is that for the first time in my life, you really have more and more talk about Israel as getting more criticism in America than they ever have.
The entire left, and that's why I haven't heard, maybe, you know, maybe you guys have heard more because I don't watch mainstream news, but I'm getting the impression that the left doesn't seem to care quite as much about Iran as they do about Gaza.
And they should care about Gaza.
But I would like to see, you know, I dared Gavin Newsom.
Not that he's going to pay attention to me, but he was, you know, you see him on Twitter.
He's adopting this tough guy mode now.
You know, he's out there and he's, you know, he's going to kick Trump's butt, basically, is what he's saying.
And he's acting like this tough guy.
And so I said, hey, you know, Gavin, show us you're really courageous.
Condemn Israel's first strike on Iran.
Condemn that.
And then condemn the guy, you know, that you can't stand Trump.
Condemn the fact that he's supporting it.
I've heard that he's done that.
I don't think he will.
But if the left does do that, if the left now starts condemning, because they seem to have been restricting their criticisms of Israel to the treatment of the Palestinians, which is certainly true.
They should, you know, be criticized for that.
And who knows how many people they've killed.
In Gaza, and you can see the wreckage in Gaza.
It's obvious it's something horrific has happened there, so they should be criticizing that.
But I'd like to see them criticize overall ties with Israel.
And not just because it's an apartheid state or whatever, you know, stuff that they want to frame it in woke terms, but because it's an artificial state.
It was created.
And I guess that's why I go back to the beginning.
I'm with the Arabs, you know, that said in the beginning, I think we need to look at this from the very beginning.
And that doesn't mean, you know, that people in Israel, every human being has a right to exist.
Of course, they have a right to exist.
But that doesn't mean they have a right to exist there.
You know, we all have a right to exist.
But if you decide to, you know, I'm going to take over my neighbor's backyard because You're not going to get very far.
Nobody's going to sympathize with you, at least of all the neighbor that owns that yard.
So you just can't do what they did and expect no reaper.
And it's amazing that there hasn't been a world war precipitated out of that before this, to be honest with you, because this is, you know.
That seems to be one of the culminations of World War II.
What happened afterwards?
Well, Zionism was born.
Not only the Cold War and the Iron Curtain over Europe with, you know, suddenly our allies, Uncle Joe, Stalin, and then suddenly they became the hobgoblins.
And we had to fight them indirectly, of course.
We never, you know, that's an answer to a trivia question for those of you out there.
The only world leader that ever confronted the Soviet Union directly on the battlefield was Adolf Hitler.
For what it is, just as we never did.
We never confronted the Soviet Union indirectly.
We had proxy wars in Korea and Vietnam, certainly, but we never did anything to them, just as we weren't about to do anything to China.
And I think we're seeing a little bit of that American attitude.
Well, you know, I don't know if we're, you know, we've been picking on these third world countries that can't fight back.
And Israel has a little bit of that attitude, too.
And they may be looking at Iran that looks like Iran can fight back.
Again, to whatever degree this is legitimate.
This could all be theater.
We don't know.
But I do.
Maybe I'm wishful thinking.
But I think that because of the world we have now, America 2.0, you've got the generation of youngsters in America that would have to serve.
I mean, Bobby Kennedy, very memorably, I assume he's correct.
He studies this stuff, you know, and I think he's accurate.
So something like 70% or maybe over 70% of draft age, you know, if they reinstituted the draft because they'd have to if they had a world war, service age Americans would not be physically or emotionally or mentally.
They would have some kind of issue that would cause them to be 4F or whatever.
They wouldn't be able to serve in the military.
So I don't know that you could form an army.
I mean, I don't know.
I hope they're not going to go for, you know, truly old guys like me or something.
I threatened to go to Canada back in Vietnam.
Luckily, I barely missed that end.
So, you know, I'd have to go to Canada then, I guess.
But I don't get the sense that anybody, and I think against because of the left, especially the base of just the common voters fed up with Israel, and it's mostly that.
But I don't think that you're going to get the left support.
On this at all, because Israel has become one of their boogeymen, clearly.
So I don't think they're going to, you know, they're going to send their kids or themselves are going to go and fight for Israel.
It's just it's so obvious, and especially when the way this started.
Where, you know, Israel fired the first shot.
And I heard Alex Jones and others, you know, apologize while claiming they're not apologizing, but they are apologizing for Israel saying, well, you know, Iran attacked Israel a while back.
Okay.
And I don't know the nuances of that, but I'm sure Israel attacked them first.
That would be my guess.
And so this is the problem that when you have, it's basically a rogue state out there.
I don't know that we've ever had a nation like that in the history of the world, that it's a parasitic state where it feeds off the lifeblood of another state.
I don't know what kind of industry Israel actually has, but they depend so much on our lifeline that I think if we just finally cut them off, they'd be like a trust fund kid.
This trust fund was cut off and okay, now you got to go figure out how to deal with the world.
I don't think they could do it.
And I think they would be overrun.
And I'm not saying I want that to happen.
I don't want anybody to be hurt.
But clearly, it doesn't look like there's any way to cause, you know, Jimmy Carter tried.
In the 70s, you know, I give him credit for that.
He was the closest thing to even handed in the Middle East we've had since JFK.
As Tony mentioned, you know, JFK was involved in a very heated war of words with David Ben-Gurion, the original president of Israel at the time of his assassination, just coincidentally enough.
And people can look at that the way they want.
I don't think Israel was the main.
Trigger man behind the JFK assassination.
But it looks like there was some kind of involvement because the recent JFK font releases, what we saw is that all of the formerly redacted items, virtually all of them, had to do with Israel.
And give Tulsi Gabbard credit for that.
There's something that she she got rid of the redactions.
And I don't know what there's, you know, there's people who go deep down the rabbit hole and say they want people to know this for some reason.
This is something maybe they want.
The anti-Jewish sentiment?
I don't know.
Because you're getting that.
If you watch YouTube, especially the black YouTubers now.
Jason Whitlock, and it's amazing.
Jason Whitlock is part of the Blaze Network.
That's Glenn Beck.
And Glenn Beck has been on the air saying how committed he is to Israel.
It's his favorite country.
He's an American.
He's not Jewish.
So you wouldn't expect to have a Glenn Beck.
It's almost like being on The Daily Wire with Ben Shapiro.
Jason Whitlock says whatever he wants.
He interviewed Michael E. Jones, who very much has the views of David Duke.
He interviewed him, and Whitlock openly talks and smiles and chuckles and talks about the tribe.
I mean, I sit there and I can't believe this guy's doing this.
But I don't know if it's because he's black, he's allowed to.
And if you look at kind of a more humorous note, if you look at the Hodge twins.
Who are, again, they're not intellectuals, but they have good kind of common sense.
They're like a lot of people I worked with back in the days who know a lot more than Ivy Leaguers in terms of what's going on, street-level smarts.
And they've had David Duke on there.
But they talk openly about Jewish power and mock Israel and everything.
Again, they've got millions of subscribers.
Mark Dice, I was watching the video for him yesterday.
I don't think Alex Jones is going to invite him back on anytime soon.
He is very, very openly, you know, anti-Israel and skeptical of the power the Zionists hold over American society.
It was, you know, it's great to see.
So it's this is wonderful to see that at least a large portion of the and even Tucker Carlson.
I think Tucker Carlson said What did he say?
Of course, it wasn't anything that extreme, but he kind of said something like, you know, this is we should not be involved at all.
You know what Trump should say?
I can't remember exactly.
Maybe people probably read it.
But the idea that somebody that mainstream is doing it, I think we've we've reached a point where I don't think they're going to be able to sell this.
And maybe they don't care and they'll just they don't claim if they can sell it or not.
And they'll just come out and Be as tyrannical as they want to be.
And I hope that all these other skirmishes between Israel and whether it's Lebanon or Syria or, you know, Iran, Iraq, all of the litany of enemies that we become involved with because it just happened to be something that the enemies of Israel and Israel's worried about them.
And that's, you know, they've captured an entire foreign policy.
And when's the last time we, I mean, you can argue Trump Some of the things he's done go against the Israel.
He's certainly trying to off and on, you know, it's maddening, but he reaches out an olive branch to Putin all the time.
And I don't know if you heard recently, this is one of Trump's great suggestions that you'll probably never hear again.
He said, hey, let's have Putin be the intermediary and broker peace between Iran and Iraq.
Can you imagine that?
But that's what Trump suggested.
I don't know if he'll go along with that.
He'll come up with something else the next day or something.
He might say, let's let Ben Shapiro do it.
I don't know, for all I know.
So I think when you have this pro-Zionist, obviously, that run things in our society, in our government especially, and you have more and more Obviously an anti, you know, Zionist sentiment against the people, especially when you had that left, which is so supposedly run things.
When you have Greta Thunberg, I mean, I thought it was interesting that, you know, people like James Woods, who is this a lot of interesting stuff, but he's in the boat for Israel.
All these guys are in the tank for Israel.
But they all started making fun of poor little Greta Thunberg.
I mean, you know, we all kind of chuckled and made fun of her, because, you know, how dare you?
You know, she comes from a, you know, A major acting family in her country.
I know that's, you know, hard to believe, but clearly she was, as Jason Whitlock says, she was installed.
They installed her for a purpose on climate change.
But was that by accident she went off the reservation and now they're trying to rein her in when she started talking about Israel?
Or was that, again, part of the script?
But wasn't she arrested or something by the Israel on a boat?
I don't know.
I haven't kept track of it, but I know she's been ridiculed by You know, even some of the people that used to like her because now she's, you know, she's not talking about climate change.
And Tony here, this would be the question.
If you could hear us in the comment, the high watermark for right-wing Christian Zionism was passed circa 2014.
It declined now, but still very dangerous and oppressive in America.
Yeah, I would say it probably has to.
And I think that's the only thing that keeps it afloat is the fact that these people, and again, I don't want to offend anybody listening, whatever, but.
If you look back at the history, the rapture and Christian fundamentalism, it's, what is it, maybe a little over 100 years old?
I think it's the Schofield Bible or particular Bible.
I've heard, you know, certainly not in the Dewey Reams Bible, you know, which is what I have.
It's an old Catholic Bible.
But so I think that a lot of that, because that's the only way you can sell this.
What Israel's done from the beginning.
And, you know, Tony mentioned Menahem Begin, who was, if he wasn't a terrorist, I don't know what was.
He participated in blowing up the King David Hotel right after Israel was born.
And lots of people were killed.
And they just, they glossed over the stuff.
And this is probably what got people like James Forstall murdered.
And maybe Joe McCarthy too, because James Forrestal was a German secretary of defense.
And he was, Probably the most high-profile critic of Israel, saying this is really stupid.
And he was Secretary of Defense, so you weren't going to get too far in building Israel with a Secretary of Defense like that.
Before, he was actually the first Secretary of Defense.
Before that, it was Secretary of War.
He was the first modern Secretary of Defense.
But as people may or may not know, he ended up supposedly jumping from a window at Bethesda Naval Hospital.
Most of us think he was pushed.
And Joe McCarthy certainly thought he was.
Joe McCarthy was his big, it was a good friend.
And I quote this all the time.
I do it on Rents.
All the Rents loves it.
But supposedly, and I think it sums up the conspiracy we're facing better than anything else.
And that's what James Forrestal supposedly told McCarthy at one time, because they were good friends.
You know, McCarthy, if there wasn't a giant conspiracy, once in a while they'd make a mistake in our favor.
And I think that sums it up perfectly.
Once in a while, they'd make it, once in a while, there'd be something random.
There'd be something, there'd be good, like some, a Trump would come along.
A renegade billionaire that couldn't be controlled or refused to be controlled would come along because that was what sold me to Trump.
You know, Roger Stone, when he was the first prominent person, you know, that's when I knew maybe I had something in his history, my first book, because he contacted me and said how much he loved it.
And he ended up writing a forward to the paperback.
So, for good or bad, his name's associated with mine because his name's on the cover of, by far, my best-selling book.
But he was telling me, you know, Trump saw this stuff behind the scenes.
He's been making his money.
And that made sense today, you know, that you would make money, you'd play the game.
And in his early rhetoric, Trump would talk about that.
He'd say, you know, I yeah, I took it.
I took advantage of the bankruptcy laws, which he still made fun of.
And it's true.
He declared bankruptcy ten times or whatever.
But that was a good strategic movement for somebody in his class because the bankruptcy laws are built for people like that.
And people don't know Barack Obama, the man of the people.
He changed the bankruptcy laws during his administration to make it harder for average people to declare bankruptcy.
I think chapter seven maybe is what most people use, but whatever Trump and his ilk use, that's still there.
That's still allowed.
But, you know, Trump, it made perfect sense to me that he would be, you know, at cocktail parties and, you know, checking out all the young women, which is what he did, and just biding his time and saying, you know, I got kids because I think, you know, what we feel to do is when we demonize people, we think that they're, you know.
They're these devils and they don't like and that's what made John Kennedy so great in that American University speech.
And we just passed the the anniversary of that 62nd anniversary at American University.
And the you know, when he was the first American first world leader I know who's to see his enemies in human terms.
And he talked about at the time the Russians were enemies.
Now, ironically, they are again.
But he said, you know, they breathe the same air we do.
They cherish their children's future.
And I don't think I don't think any like the World War Two, you can't imagine Roosevelt saying, oh, you know, sure, we're fighting the Germans, but they cherish their children's future.
Most Americans wouldn't believe they were they were human enough to even care about their children.
And so I think that's why we look at now when something like that, where somebody like a Trump, I mean, no matter what you think of him.
I haven't heard anything really that he's not, you know, that he's a horrible father or anything.
So maybe he cherished his children's future too.
Not that they, you know, they have much to worry about.
But maybe he looked at that and said, hey, I want, you know, I want a bet.
I don't want everybody.
I made my money.
They're set financially.
But I don't know.
Obviously, it didn't look like that was true.
But that's what Roger Stone was telling me.
So if there wasn't this monolithic conspiracy.
To stop people, then you would have, or you go back to Ross Perot in 1992.
Ross Perot seemed more genuine than Trump, obviously.
And he wasn't talking about all the issues Trump was, but you had the basic sense, hey, something's wrong, you know, and we need to, certainly we need to stop the trade deal so we don't have the giant sucking sound.
And he was one of the most, you know, important people that were trying to, he sent a private team over to try to rescue POWs and MIAs, you know, a completely forgotten issue.
We just left them there.
And who knows how many died because of that.
But, you know, Perot looked great.
And I was skeptical at the time.
I said, you know, Larry King's interviewing him and all these people.
It's like, you know, you're going to run for president.
It's like they wouldn't do that to a real outsider.
But he sounded great.
All indications were he was a real nice guy in person.
And then he suddenly drops out of the race when he's ahead in the polls.
And that, you know, did they have the conversation with him?
Was he legitimate?
And then they take him aside and say, you know, this is over.
You're not going to be able to win.
And then he jumped back in belatedly.
But jumping out, he lost enough support.
So instead of, you know, he lost about half his support because in most of the polls, he was ahead most of the time in like the high 30s percentage.
And then you had Bush and Clinton trailing behind, both in 30-some percent.
When he came back in, he ended up getting 19%, which was still the most, the highest amount since Teddy Roosevelt in 1912, whatever it was.
But it was 19, yeah, 1912, I think.
But, you know, so this is something that's possible, but we never see any randomness.
So when Forrestal told McCarthy that, he was exactly right, that, you know, we would have...
but obviously it doesn't work.
You know, you can joke all you want, but you don't joke about this stuff.
And he talked about he was the only Republican in Congress that didn't have an AIPAC babysitter.
He didn't have an AIPAC handler.
AIPAC is the Israeli lobby and it's, you know, it controls Congress, obviously.
And boy, you know, after that interview, it was less than a week.
His wife suddenly died.
His wife was in great shape, early 50s.
They had just taken a vacation with the grandchildren.
And I still have not, I wrote an article on Substack at the time, but I still have not heard any explanation given for her sudden death.
And to my amazement, Massey didn't suddenly become a supporter of Israel.
He was one of those who boycotted Netanyahu speaking to Congress, and he's still speaking out.
So it didn't shut him up.
But I have to think that those two events were unfortunately connected.
But you would have more people like Massey.
Because let's put this, let's say, you know, people know my heroes.
Those of you who know me know my political heroes, Huey Long.
And but somebody selling what you could take Huey Long speeches word for word and have a charismatic figure come out today.
And that would be so appealing to the masses.
I mean, you talk about something selling the sizzle that would sell like hotcakes.
Lisa Douglas used to say on Green Acres, hotcakes, you know, that would sell very easily.
And How could people not be receptive to that?
Because you would get a cross-section of the left and the right.
You would get true populism.
All those people out there, the working class, that are not getting raises anymore.
They've had their pensions taken from them, but are still required to pay pensions of all these civil servants that have sometimes six-figure pensions, very often has six-figure pensions.
That would really resonate with them.
You know, why do we have to keep making the sacrifice?
We have nothing we can sacrifice.
But no one's done it.
Nobody in Huey Long's family.
I mean, there's not a single member.
And I think it's because they can't.
Because if they try to, it would happen.
I mean, I've thought people, you know, mentioned to me running to Congress many times over the years.
I've thought about it because I'm pretty sure I could sell something to the people.
But the problem is neither party would let me.
And you can't, if you're not, Tony knows that better than anybody.
When he tried to run for Congress, if you're not part of that two-party system, unless you're somebody like a Ross Perot that came out of nowhere and for whatever reason, you know, was getting interviewed by Larry King.
And you saw what happened to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
He wanted to be an independent.
And, you know, even though, what happened to all those polls that have RFK Jr. with well over 20% early on?
And no one's explained that.
And suddenly just it just How did he have all that support and then he didn't?
They just don't want any.
Pat Buchanan, you know, wonderful.
He was selling some great stuff, 1% in the polls.
So that's what they would do.
If somebody like me or somebody came along, they would just use those pre-election polls, which serve no purpose other than to manipulate the vote.
And they would claim that, you know, this guy's got 1%.
And then what happens is most people say, well, okay, I'll go to my second choice.
You know, this guy, Lindsey Graham, you know, they find somebody that that was was higher in the polls and these ridiculous fake polls.
So that's why, you know, for somebody to think that this.
We're not to believe that this is this is just one giant conspiracy.
Everybody says to me, you think everything's a conspiracy?
Well, yes, I do, because we're run by conspirators.
It's so predictable.
Peace never happens.
Something good never happens.
Trump was talking up the infrastructure.
The Democrats are talking about that, too.
I don't see, as I'm driving around, I live in one of the richest counties in the United States, and I see how the condition of the infrastructure is in here.
The other night, you know, the power went off for an hour and a half or something, you know, at night.
It was just a rain.
And our lines are underground.
That never happened 50, 60 years ago.
It just didn't.
And so we regressed because we haven't updated the sensors in our power grids, which are made in China.
You really need...
They don't realize how important the infrastructure is.
I mean, we have a great infrastructure upgrade under Eisenhower, the national highway system.
One of the greatest achievements we've ever had.
And we're still living off it.
But we don't do anything.
So I'm driving around my area, which I don't do that often.
So a lot of times there are months between where I'll go to a particular place and I'll say, oh, well, this road work hasn't progressed at all.
And all I see is lanes closed everywhere.
You know, people in hats standing along the side of the roads, apparently not doing anything, holding up slow or stop signs.
And I don't see any actual work being done ever.
So I just claim it's perpetual road work.
It never gets done because I never see, I never drive out and say, oh, wow, this road's really cool now.
No more potholes.
Doesn't happen.
It's perpetual road work.
It never gets done.
And again, I think it's, you can go back, you talk about conspiracy, you go back to Charles Dickens, one of my favorite writers, and he wasn't necessarily that political of a guy other than just an advocate for the poor, but in reform, classical liberal.
But in one of his novels, he made fun and he talked about The men who know how not to get it done.
And this was 1850-ish.
We're still being run.
And that's the incompetence part.
You have a stew that the Americans and the world are being subjected to.
You have the corruption, which everybody sees.
Everybody knows that.
And we have the incompetence.
The incompetence factor is that.
The men who know now women.
The men, women, they, thems, whatever.
They know how not to get it done.
It doesn't get done.
And they know how not to get it done.
So anybody that tries to do something, they block it.
No, no, no.
And they'll come up with a reason why you can't do something good.
Now, if you need another billion for Ukraine, then that gets done right away.
Israel needs anything, and that's why you'll see if Israel wants We're kicking you out of the nest.
going to do that.
But if so again I think that this is If you haven't listened to me before, this is kind of what I do.
I kind of have a free-flowing form where I kind of rant back and forth and tie things together from history.
And I don't know.
Some people like it, so hopefully you guys do.
And again, I'm sorry I've had to take over the show here, but with my ridiculous echo thing, but at least I don't have the echo now.
So I think that there's no way...
The Fireside Theater also, I like to quote that all the time.
They used to say, everything you know is wrong.
That was their credo.
Long forgotten comedy troupe from the 60s.
And everything Americans know is wrong.
That's why when I'm writing my hidden history books, you know, the people that read them are always like, wow, this is amazing.
I mean, I'm not making anything up.
And most of this stuff is hidden in plain sight.
It's out there.
It's very easy to find.
So you want to know how, you know, especially with people fighting over free speech now, and most Americans probably not believing in free speech anymore.
We know neither side does.
The left doesn't believe in it remotely.
There's a million things they don't want you to be able to say, and they'll claim it's hate speech.
And the right doesn't want you to say anything attacking Israel or Zionism, or they'll claim that's hate speech and they want to outlaw it.
But if you look back at the history of this, they'll say they put an asterisk on the...
That's what Woodrow Wilson used as precedent.
Eugene Debs, the great socialist leader, and others took it to the Supreme Court.
The great liberal benefactor who still has a great reputation but in reality was a eugenicist like all these Wilson and all these other liberals were and was a warmonger who never saw a war he didn't like like all those you know establishment liberals at the time.
Holmes ruled in favor of Wilson and that's where the phrase you can't yell fire in a crowded theater came from.
Now there's probably not one in A hundred million Americans that has any idea of that.
I didn't until, you know, I was researching the book.
That was before Chris Graves and Peter Seacosh came along to do lots of my research for me.
So this one I had to do research myself.
And I couldn't believe that.
I said, wow, that's where that came from?
And I thought, you know, and I've said many times, no matter how you, even if you can come up with some kind of justification, he was using that to justify putting anti-war protesters in prison.
So however you look at it, Protesting a war is not yelling fire in a crowded theater.
And yet you tell that to, and they'll give you a blank look, just like you try to explain the banking system to them.
You know, under the fractured lending system, it used to be, you know, you only had to have 10% reserves on hand.
That means 10% real money.
So just imagine you and your buddy, I don't know if I tell Tony, hey, Tony, I want to, you know, you're doing well, you know, you're doing great.
You're with this gold and silver thing you got going on.
Can you lend me some money?
Tony, if he uses the Federal Reserve model, if he was able to do that, he would say, well, sure, okay.
What do you want?
How about $1,000?
And Tony would only have to have, what, $100 to do that?
Under the old system.
And now, according to Ron Paul and others, he wouldn't need any money.
I don't think there's any fraction.
So if you can explain the difference between that and counterfeiting.
Let me know.
Obviously, the individuals out there, especially all the people that are struggling, the 70-some percent of Americans that are living paycheck to paycheck, imagine being able to just print money.
That's why these 3D printers, has anybody thought to do that?
I don't know how that works.
I worked with printers.
How does a gun come out of a printer?
But that's what they claim you can do.
To me, if I look at it, I say, hey, let's use the Federal Reserve model.
Let's print some money here.
And, you know, just imagine what that could do for people.
They could print their own money.
But obviously, they would be met and treated far differently than the Federal Reserve Bank.
And in Hidden History, I think it was, I have a quote from the person that if you doubt that, how that system works, the Federal Reserve.
The guy that ran the Federal Reserve Bank in Boston back in the day, he answered a question.
I said, yeah, that's true.
We do lend money we don't have.
So, I mean, just think of that.
Our system is built on this.
This is Tony's wheelhouse.
But I try to tell people that.
And I think, again, they don't believe it because it's incomprehensible.
They could not possibly believe something that ridiculous because we've all seen counterfeiters.
Going back to the G-men and J. Edgar Hoover, you know, going out to the counterfeiters.
These are bad guys.
You know, I remember Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble had a counterfeiting thing going on one of their episodes back in the day.
So it goes back to the Stone Age.
But, you know, people recognize you can't do that yet.
Our entire, what a joke.
Our entire banking system is built on that.
But if you try to tell people.
They just give you that look.
And again, I don't think they believe.
The average normie doesn't believe anything I say about that because even if I can cite the source, and I can, I try to source everything I have.
Because as J. Edgar Hoover said, he was one of the all-time great conspirators, but he was talking about the communist conspiracy, but it applies to everything.
When he said, the average citizen just cannot comprehend evil this large.
Something this monstrous, this big.
And that's when we're trying to talk about these things to the average person, especially if they're doing well.
Anybody that's successful in this system, how are you going to sell this to them?
What are you talking about?
Get a job, buddy.
Go get some skills.
That's their favorite thing to say.
Learn some skills.
Okay.
Or the AI.
Don't worry about the AI.
The low-priced H-1B visa workers and the illegal immigrants, don't worry about that.
Just learn some skills.
That works for 20% of the people.
I call this casino economy.
People know how the casinos work.
20% have to win.
80% have to lose for 20% to win.
That's how the casinos work.
And that's pretty much how our economy works.
20% win to one degree or another, varying degrees, and 80% lose.
To one degree or another.
And the bottom 50% are really losing because they make less than $28,000 a year.
And that's growing with every new migrant that comes in the country.
They're entering at the bottom.
That's why it's very, it's destructive to any type of first world economy.
But I don't think we have a first world economy anymore.
So, I don't know, Tony, I'm hoping I'm not droning on too much.
I'm kind of all over the place.
You said they're getting a history lesson.
You're getting a hidden history lesson here.
So you've, and actually, believe it or not, they did let me, I don't think, I don't think They took away my email, so I'm probably not.
But for several years, three, four, five years, my county adult education program let me teach a course on the JFK assassination.
First it was the JFK assassination, and then it became And I just played Oliver Stone's JFK every class and just would stop it and comment on it.
I said, you know, this is easiest money I ever made.
Talk about a labor of love.
But COVID, you know, like it killed so many other things that kind of killed that deal.
And it was only once a quarter.
So it wasn't like I, you know, I made even less from that than I do from my books.
And that's saying something.
So it wasn't a big moneymaker scheme.
It was nice.
But even then, you know, when I did that, that's the subject, that's what I can lecture best on.
If I'm going to lecture on subject, I know the JFK assassination inside out.
I started in the mid-70s working as a teenage volunteer for Mark Lane, the most prominent critic of the Warren Commission.
So I know this issue better than just about anybody or as good as anybody.
But I put together a PowerPoint presentation I thought was great.
For this class.
But every one of my classes would always have very few people because, you know, not that many people.
And it was, you know, I think they were charging 70, 80 bucks or something, which I thought was outrageous.
But, you know, I don't control that.
So I can see why people didn't, you know, want to pay that.
But to listen to some, you know, thought criminal like me talking about it.
But I would always get one of the people in there.
Almost all the time, there'd be one.
It was almost like they were placed there.
There would be a lone nutter.
And no matter what, it frustrated me.
At first, it really frustrated me because I said, look, I can't, I can't put together a better presentation than this.
I can't put together a stronger argument.
And yet I can't convince this guy.
A lot of times it was a young kid.
And I would say, and what do you do?
I mean, if they just keep, they're ignoring everything.
You know, putting the crime was never investigated, you know, talking about the bullet holes were too low and all.
In the clothing and the autopsy face, you know, all these things, the condition of the bullet, all these things that are obviously great evidence, the chain of possession problems, and they just they don't believe it.
They believe Lyswell did it.
And I don't I can't believe that these are all people that are part of some kind of conspiracy.
So you're dealing with that kind of mentality.
And unfortunately, even the JFK assassination field at the height back in the 70s, maybe, I think it was 90% of the American public.
Believe there was a conspiracy.
And now it's like 60% or more.
So that's the impact that the right wing has had.
And even though the MAGA right type all believe, you know, that JFK was killed by conspiracy, there's enough there.
And also the woke left as well.
They've done a damage on Kennedy's reputation.
So a lot of people don't care anymore.
They say, well, yeah, you get killed, but who cares?
You know, he was no good.
He was a womanizer and keep having sex with all these movie stars while he's almost dead all the time.
He was too unhealthy to be president, but he was having nonstop sex with movie stars and, you know, Nazi spies and all.
They can come up with anything.
And oh, yeah, that's true.
JFK did that.
Consortium with the mafia, his brother attorney general was the only one ever to be rounding them up and trying to prosecute them.
So it's.
And so when you have that kind of smear campaign against somebody, so eventually it gets to the point where people don't care with you.
Who cares?
He wasn't a good guy.
Because you think of somebody that was killed by a conspiracy, you're thinking, well, this was a heroic figure.
And that's why when you come to the Trump assassination, whatever it was, you know, whatever that was, and again, millions of people, that's where, look how far we've gone, where we've had such a rabbit hole element now, the Sandy Hook factor, where...
And, you know, there's a lot of elements to it.
It does look pretty fishy.
But just imagine that even, you know, 15 years ago, it would have never been the case.
And, of course, Trump, you know, doesn't help with his personality.
It's basically him and his people are just, Cash Mattel is sitting here saying, well, there's nothing to see here.
And while he's saying Epstein killed himself, and it's like, and that, you know, that, This is probably the most obvious conspiracy of modern times is that Epstein didn't kill himself.
I mean, that's pretty much, I would say probably 99% of the public believes that, but we're supposed to believe that except for the people that could do something about it.
And then you have Dan Mangino saying, yeah, I've seen the file.
What file have you seen, Dan?
The missing evidence that was taken from Epstein's It's safe in his mansion and they tell you, "Oh, we can't find it." It's like the original Apollo moon landing.
We don't even know where they're at.
It's right there with them.
I don't know.
We can't find them.
Nikola Tesla's papers that Uncle John Trump, Donald Trump's uncle, was sent by the government.
They're all missing.
They're all together somewhere.
I don't know where they're at, but we can't find it.
And people just say, "Okay, that makes sense.
We can't find it." Sure.
Why wouldn't you?
You know, the original Apollo moon landing tapes are important.
Probably tape the Super Bowl over it or something.
You know, why would you keep that?
That didn't make any sense.
And, you know, something like the Tesla papers, you know, it's just free energy and earthquake machines and all this great stuff he was working on.
And nobody else apparently supposedly has ever been able to since.
But, you know, we don't need to see that.
There's no reason to to to see that.
And now, you know, Epstein's whatever is in there, you know, it's like he's.
And I've said Jelaine Maxwell, I think, you know, she should be pardoned because it's unfair that she was convicted of sex trafficking minors to no one because they didn't announce anybody she trafficked them to.
If I had been her defense attorney, I would say, Your Honor, they haven't produced a single name.
Who did my client, you know, can you tell us who she trafficked these young ladies to?
Well, no, we can't.
And she's still in prison there.
How many subjects have I covered here, folks?
I'm going to talk about my new book I'm working on, my book on sports, which is going to be my most controversial one yet.
When do you read that folks?
That's a, that one won't be I don't think I'll be able to get a publisher for that because I'm going to be talking about the racial dynamics in sports and nobody, nobody has ever touched that.
So, uh, that's where, uh, But so it's and I've seen Tony says I sound great.
So I don't know how many and I hope certainly we all hope for David to come back soon.
I know I don't know much about it, but I know when I've been listening to it recently, Travis, his son has been on here.
So it's great.
You have obviously Tony's filling in and I think Jason Barker and Karen Carpenter filled in one time as I heard right.
Good friends.
Of ours.
But so at any rate, that's I pretty much summed up.
I summed up the world and and had a great.
But I think you need to look, especially something like Israel, Israel, we need to look at what we're seeing.
It's front and center.
People need to understand the history.
Tony mentioned the liberty.
We go back to the, you know, certainly the founding of it and how even after the King David Motel terrorism incident.
People didn't stop.
You know, you had people like Forrest all saying, look, this is mad.
But they did.
People like old Joe Kennedy.
And if you look at one of the great letters, and I was going to include it as an appendix in American Memory Hole, my latest book, but it's a letter from a 22-year-old JFK, and it's an incredible letter.
And if you want to know why I love JFK so much, read that letter.
Because he is so astute.
And he is so mature.
And he...
And so it's like eight years, seven, eight years before Israel became a country.
He talks about what a disaster this was.
He analyzes the situation.
It's a letter to his father, who is well-versed on the subject and was one of the early critics of Israel as well.
And he talks about how this is mad.
It's not going to work.
And so this is why history is important.
So you go back not understanding JFK's feelings and where he came from, from his father.
His father, old Joe Kennedy, was also one of the behind the scenes, one of the first critics of the Federal Reserve.
This was a banker.
He knew how ridiculous it was and it wouldn't work.
Again, but they don't tell you that.
They come up, they make up stories about the mob and all kinds of stuff like that, which were all lies, CIA and mafia lies.
But this letter, if you read that, it tells you, wow.
You know, this guy really had something.
And so later, when he becomes president, it's natural that he was getting in a war of words with Israel behind the scenes about them developing nuclear weapons.
And it's ironic because now you have supposedly Iran on the verge of developing nuclear weapons, and they've been on the verge since 1979.
You know, it's been the last thing since then.
We've been right there.
You know, we've got to do something about this since 1979.
And I don't think it's any accident that JFK was the last president.
To stand up there as well.
No one has.
Jimmy Carter was fairly even-handed.
But JFK stood up to him, said, no, you were not to develop nuclear weapons.
And then he was killed.
So you want to say that had no part to play on that?
I don't know.
Tony, are we going for another hour?
I'm not sure.
We still got the Echo done.
Okay.
No, I don't have the Echo now.
I worked on a few things in a great segment, by the way.
I wanted you to keep going.
I like the stream of consciousness.
That's the way I do my shows.
Probably just learned a lot by watching you.
So I go into that whole cycle, kind of going back and then tying it in a bow at the end.
So we did magnificent, sir.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I hope people liked it.
I saw the numbers going up, so I guess people are listening.
So that's good.
Yeah, it was a good history lesson.
You can use history as a guide, as you do, for the future, except there's so much with the technocratic age that is something, you know, Harry Truman said, the only thing new under the sun is the history you don't know.
That's generally true, except for now with the leaps in technology and AI and blockchain and other things.
It could be great.
It's kind of like a weapon that can be used for good or it can be used for evil.
I often have that historical sense, but it's hard to make heads or tails anymore, Don.
You go back to the political influence.
This is the future.
We're going to be talking a lot about the Israeli lobby and AIPAC and the influence.
That it has on our government and our foreign policy.
And back, gosh, you remember this, Don, you go back to the 90s, and I mentioned this before, but, you know, Pat Buchanan, just on the McLaughlin group, just in an offhand comment, said, you know, nobody, and this is talking about Desert Storm.
So this is like 1990s.
Nobody really supports a hot war besides the people over at, I forgot, I think it was like some defense contractor in their Amen corner at APAC.
The amen corner.
And I thought that was great.
And so that was cutting edge back then.
And you were quickly disposed of if you were anywhere near like just saying, hey, there's this very powerful foreign nation lobby that it's that's made up of Jews and they're going to.
On my bookshelf, I've got a book from the 80s called None Dare Speak Out.
Paul Finley, yeah, representing Paul Finley, yeah.
Yes.
And that was, again, that was cutting edge.
What I see now, and I want to get your opinion before Billy joins us.
What I see now is that there is a, I see a massive decline in that being, you know, reigning people in.
Like, you had the Ron Pauls and you have, you know, Thomas Mass.
These are outliers, but there will be more who, like, even with trends, like you see Tucker Carlson talking about Zionism and political Zionism.
So I think it's very healthy that we have this conversation.
Obviously, you can, you know, in this country, you can have that opinion that that Israel is more important than America, especially a lot of.
I grew up in the South and the Christian Zionism is really strong.
And I didn't get that when I got back from, you know, my, my tours.
And I, especially I got home from Iraq and I, I did not understand the viewpoints of people that I went to church with.
And I, that's, so it's like it, To me, I had to jettison that so I could have a relationship with Christ.
I could get past the political aspect of it.
To me, it was Christian Zionism and that idolatry.
You see the waving of the Israeli flag in John Hagee's church down in South Texas.
It's very idolatrous.
So antithetical.
I'm trying to find it in the Bible here where Jesus wanted me to support a nation state to bomb people.
I can't find it.
But that's what you find.
But it's a dead end.
And I think that history will show that those of us who were skeptical way back, like you, when I ran for Congress, I had to go meet with AIPAC.
If you don't meet with them, you're arguing.
They didn't know what to make of me.
They had somebody come in and take notes.
I had a lot to say about demography.
I had a lot to say about foreign aid.
They had not been a proponent of eliminating foreign aid to countries that burned the American flag.
They wanted to support foreign aid for everyone.
I thought that was interesting.
We got Billy here with us as well.
Let's put him on.
We got Billy Ray Valley.
He's out.
You're out.
You're walking the streets.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
I didn't know we were going to get a cameo.
We're going to get like a real I figured it'd be a good idea to let everybody see the South Bronx for a little bit.
It's not fully exposed to the world.
You know, everybody has a preconception of it.
Well, we're going to walk the streets of the South Bronx today while we're doing the interview.
What's up?
What's up, guys?
What's up, Tony?
It's good to see you.
Good to talk to you.
How are you doing?
We're doing great.
I'm happy that we dispelled the echo.
We had an echo with Don for something.
I was able to adjust some settings.
I think we're okay now.
What's up, Don?
How are you doing?
Alright, so it's like America Unplugged back, huh?
Because, you know, I get people asking me what's going on with America Unplugged, so here's your kind of an unofficial America Unplugged, I guess.
Right, right, right.
What's up, Tony?
We're going to plug in on Saturday.
What's going on, Tony?
I just wanted to get your take on, you know, I had the first hour, talked about the no Kings protests.
I talked about, uh, I looked at just the high level of propaganda in the news cycle the last 48, 72 hours.
I thought that was interesting.
Don and I were looking at the geopolitical ramifications of Israel doing preemptive strikes on Iranian targets and all that's going on there.
But I just wanted to get your feel.
Get your spidey senses.
What are they saying?
Who's the Magamaniac?
Is that the guy that killed the Minnesota lawmakers?
Yeah, that's such a weird thing because Drudge has it as the Magamaniac and then Zero Edge has him as the No Kings shooter.
Yeah, he worked for Tim Walz.
Didn't Tim Walz appoint him?
I swear.
I think that's just kind of where we are, Bill.
You don't know mind control.
You understand.
Well, this is all fifth generation warfare.
It's my way of explaining all the nonsense that's going on, all the probable psyops that are going on.
It's fifth generation warfare.
These people have left the old playbook behind.
They're not operating the same way they used to.
They are colonizing the minds of the people, us included.
So when we have a MAGA shooter or whatever they're calling them, the MAGA maniac or the No Kings shooter, whatever, it's something different for both sides.
Both sides believe something different about the guy.
There's a lot of disinformation going around, and that's just the...
The disinformation is a real thing.
We have to try to weave our way through it.
And in all actuality, there's no real way to know what the truth is.
You know, yeah, the guy worked for Tim Waltz, right?
But his neighbor said, or his roommate, says that he listened to Infowars religiously, which I can believe.
You know, like, what needs to happen to a person?
How much does a person need to be radicalized in order for something like this to happen?
You know, so I can certainly believe that he used to listen to InfoWars, you know, or he still listens to InfoWars.
That's what his roommate said.
And then he was also, if the footage is correct from what I saw, he was also a preacher in a church.
Talking about how the Democrats got demons in them.
You know, so, you know, we get to this point and people die.
I've been saying something similar to this for a while.
I think we all have.
That we keep pushing this rhetoric.
People are going to die.
People are going to get hurt.
And that's already happened on both sides because of the fifth generation warfare that they're running on the people.
I'd like for us to get back to a place where we're like, okay, it's different.
We have different ideas.
We disagree with one another.
And that's fine.
It's fine to disagree with one another.
But we're not going to say that the other side is vampires, you know, kid traffickers for the most part.
If you're going to say that, if you're going to say they're kid traffickers, let's have some proof of that, right?
And if the only proof we have is Epstein, we got Bill Clinton in there, and we got Donald Trump.
So we got both sides, right?
We got MAGA.
MAGA is very well represented in the Epstein side.
And then we got Bill Clinton and we got Prince Andrew and all these other scumbags that went to that island to do whatever the hell they went to do.
You know, but beyond that.
It's propaganda.
This is what they're doing.
This is how they win elections.
This is how they mold reality.
It's a different perception of reality for everybody.
Depending on your views and depending on what bubble you live in, what news you're getting.
Because everybody has a tailored news feed, pretty much.
If you're on Instagram or something like that and you're clicking on a news feed, they're going to keep feeding you certain things that are similar to what you watch often and keep giving that to you.
That's on purpose.
It could be for marketing purposes, but it can also be...
They've admitted this.
So I think that's where we are with this.
You know, can I believe that this guy went out and shot people?
Yeah, I can totally believe that because he probably thinks he's saving the country.
You know, like Michael Flynn said, and big shouts to David Knight if he's listening.
God bless you.
I hope you're feeling better.
Shouts to Travis.
You know, but Michael Flynn gave birth to the Digital Warriors.
You know, he's like, oh, you're Digital Warriors.
You are in the battle with us.
This isn't a battle that excludes you.
We need you to participate in this battle.
And people are invested in that fashion.
So nope, I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if this guy did.
But people, it's the alternative media.
So people are going to say, oh, he's a liberal.
Oh, he's whatever.
I don't subscribe to that at this point in time.
I don't believe there's enough evidence besides him working for Tim Waltz.
And his roommate said that that was something that he just did for the community.
He just did this for the community.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I tend to believe, especially when InfoWars came around, and David Knight would know a lot about that, and so would you, Tony.
As soon as InfoWars came around, I was like, oh, man, I could believe it.
Because the nonsense that comes out of that filth rag of operation is incredible.
And people believe it.
I believed it for many, many, many, many years.
Thank to the Lord God that I don't believe it at this point.
I'm probably caught up in some other way, but I'm not caught up in that one.
And I'm very happy about that.
I found it interesting.
I want to get Don's take on this, too.
As far as him being a MAGA maniac or a left-wing activist or whatever, I found that to be interesting that he had the markers of both.
And you look at the shooter Crooks in Pennsylvania, that kid, whoever he was, when they went to his house and everything was cleaned and hermetically sealed and all the stuff, he was both.
And he had both ties.
And same thing with Lee Harvey Oswald and others.
The congresswoman that was shot, and Don, off the top of my head, I don't remember her name, but her husband.
Gabby Giffords?
Yeah, Gabby Giffords, yes.
And I was thinking of Gabby, but I couldn't remember.
I remember that guy was the same way.
That shooter was like, is he left-wing or right-wing?
He has all the things.
And I think that's interesting that they just use these.
And I don't know if it's they, but there's so much mental illness anymore.
But it was a – This was premeditated.
It was really bizarre.
Anyway, just something interesting to look at.
I'm with Bill.
I think it's 5th Generation Morphids, but this is more on your mind.
You see both sides are eager to dispel or say, well, that shooter was from this camp or that camp, but they make it both.
The guy had no King's Flyers in his car.
The same thing.
Interesting.
And he had a manifesto.
All these people seem to have a manifesto.
That never jives with me.
If I'm going out to do anything like that, I'm not writing it down.
It's like I'm not making a list and leaving it there for people to find.
Like, this guy had a list of Democrats that he wanted to kill.
I think Tim Walts was one of them.
Don't quote me on that, but from what I remember, I think he was one of them.
You know, but all of them have a manifesto.
I don't get that.
I mean, that's not what I would do if I was doing something like O.J. Simpson, you know, what I would do if I committed the murder.
But I don't understand.
So that's the part that makes me skeptical.
I am, you know, a conspiracy theorist, a conspiracy analyst at heart, no matter how hard I'm trying to get out of the freaking rabbit hole.
I still think.
Why do all these people feel necessary to write this down?
Maybe it's a medical condition that I'm not aware of, but it raises alarm bells for sure.
What part of the float and the parade were you in in Washington, D.C. this past weekend, Billy?
Oh, man.
The one that resembled North Korea most.
I don't know which one that was, but no, I was not there.
But I heard that it was a disaster.
I don't know.
I mean, to be honest, I expected more from what I saw, from the footage that I saw.
I expected more uniformity.
I expected, I don't know, it was just very black.
Like, even for a military parade, like, if Donald Trump is doing it, you would think it would be all, you know.
Like a very awe-inspiring thing or something, you know, because he has such a pompous personality.
But no, I mean, that's another thing.
You know, all these things that are going on, everybody's thinking about, what's this distracting me from?
You know, like, what's this distracting me from?
What's the issue here?
I think it's important.
That we realize that all these things are going on, maybe not to distract, but to overwhelm.
You know, you have the wars.
We have in the Ukraine and, of course, what's going on in Iran with Israel.
You know, we have Donald Trump causing all types of distractions.
You know, we have this military parade and we had the No Kings parade all over the nation.
You know, it was crazy.
So everybody starts to automatically think, what is this?
I don't think it's meant to distract.
It's meant to overwhelm.
It's meant to overwhelm.
This is per Steve Benning.
It's flooding the zone.
This is the strategy.
And I know he doesn't have much control over the Israel thing, so that popped off.
But anything else that's going on with Trump or in that world, it's meant to overwhelm.
They're hitting you with everything they possibly can to overwhelm you.
All of these things are important.
What's going on with money is important and what's going on with our civil liberties is important.
All of these things are important.
They're not, in my opinion, they're not meant to distract.
They're just meant to overwhelm you to the point that you can't do anything about it.
You know, that's why I think Stephen Miller is the de facto president of the United States.
I think he's literally setting things up for Trump and Trump says great because he tells him he has a nice head of hair or something like that.
And he's a very dangerous individual.
And he twists, he uses pseudo-law.
He uses semantics in order to change the law into something that will fit whatever he wants at the time.
So that's being thrown at you actively.
And that's an admitted strategy on behalf of MAGA.
It's an administrative strategy.
This is psychological.
If people don't see it now, I don't know personally how to change people's minds or how to make them realize that we're all being manipulated here.
But it's being admitted by the people that we look up to, not that I look up to Steve Bannon, but I'm saying there's people that do.
You know, or in the MAGA movement.
And even, you know, on the left, these things are admitted now.
It's all mental manipulation.
So there's that.
No, I didn't go to either of the parades.
I didn't go to the No Kings parade, even though I would have if I wasn't doing anything.
But my wife had set something up for me, and if I said no, I'd be in really big trouble.
So I had to skip the parade.
But I certainly wasn't going over to D.C. If I did go to D.C., I would go see the pandas, you know, at the zoo, not for the parade.
Well, last week on my show, before this latest cycle kicked off, I talked about, again, it's like the headlines came up, and it was just kind of a political nonsense story, and I said, what else is going on?
And I talked about Bilderberg.
Bilderberg was happening this last week, and as soon as Bilderberg's over, Friday the 13th kicks off, and now we have a whole new war.
That's true.
I mean, that was the next day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
it kicked off.
And so, um, interesting, uh, that we're, we've kind of, I mean, it's so many things happening at once, and that's meant to disrupt you.
It's like the tempo.
You can't stay ahead of the new side.
We've been talking about this for years, but it does accelerate.
and these are the times they wipe the slate clean put a new operation Caitlyn Jenner or whatever, sipping wine in a bomb shelter in Israel saying, go Trump, you know, that's true.
And I'm like, I live in the upside down, you know, it's like these terrorists aren't going to win.
I'm like, Ian Carroll put out a tweet I thought was funny.
I reposted this and it made me laugh.
I just threw a rock through my neighbor's window.
Please pray for me as I have to endure their regret.
You know what?
I think it was Ted Cruz that said something similar.
He was like, pray for Israel.
Pray for Israel.
We need you right now.
They were the ones that struck Iran, right?
As far as I know.
He's like, pray for Israel.
Where are we living?
What kind of 1984 stuff is this?
What's up, Seth?
That's how politics, and that's, I think, the upside – Another great tweet was Gareth Icke, and he said, like, the upside of all this is now we get to see who's on the Epstein client list, whoever supports this.
It's on the Epstein client list because it's so blatantly anti – it's anti – It's a preemptive strike.
You saw that in Iraq.
That's very Third Reich-ish.
A preemptive strike is against all principles of sound warfare.
By the way, you can go back through history.
A preemptive strike usually ends in a defeat.
And I'm just kind of thinking through my wheelhouse, like, you know, the Japanese did that, too.
We did that in Iraq, and we don't rule Iraq.
You can't even trade in dollars there.
It's illegal.
So, I mean, you could go through, and Germany did that with the invasion of Poland.
You know, so there's a whole host of, you know, historical references for that.
But we do, they did reset the, you know.
The tempo, and they reset the news, the headlines, and everything else that's going on.
So that has been interesting to watch, but I noticed it in real time, and I called it out because I was like, hey, Bilderberg's meeting.
You know, the Bilderberg meetings, it's funny because this is one of the benefits.
Like, I don't regret being in the rabbit hole with Alex Jones for as long as I was because I wouldn't have learned about David Knight or yourself, Tony.
Well, maybe you, we met separately from InfoWars, but I certainly wouldn't have known about David Knight, but when I was, What did you say, Tony?
You said something so it could jog my memory.
What were you talking about?
I was just talking about how they reset the news cycle in Bilderberg.
Oh, Bilderberg.
So back in the day when I was watching InfoWars, Bilderberg was a secret.
You know, it legit was a secret.
Nobody reported on it.
And when the mainstream did report on it, they said it was a lie.
You know, or very secretive.
Now we have access to the Bilderberg invitees list on Drudge.
No, I'm not sleeping.
Who is that?
Now we get to see it on Drudge.
You know, it's open for everybody to see.
I thought it was hilarious.
I clicked on it and you see Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, you know, Zaid Zachariah or whatever his name is from CNN was on the list.
It's like, okay, now it's mainstream news.
Bilderberg is here.
Here's the list.
So I look at Bilderberg like Area 51 now.
You know, everybody knows about Area 51. They still try to keep you away.
But I mean, And what are they really doing at Bilderberg that we're not going to find out about?
You know, everything is laid out there at this point.
So when I saw that, I was like, look at this.
We've come quite a long way.
I mean, they've reported on Bilderberg for some time.
But to be that easy to find a client list, I remember back in the day we had to dig for that.
You know, and right now we just click on it and boom, there's the client list.
I mean, the client list, I'm sorry, all the people that were invited to show up.
At Bilderberg.
It's become that open at this point.
I don't put too much emphasis on Bilderberg like I used to back in the day.
It's like, oh my god, it's happening.
Now it's like, okay, it's a meeting.
I think over time the legacy media and real journalism, whatever there ever was real journalism in this country or in the West has dissipated so much that you can pretty much with impunity Do what you want, whether you're the World Economic Forum or the UN or Bilderberg or Bohemian Grove or any secret society.
You can pretty much run roughshod over the rule of law or the Constitution because you have the two parties now.
They're so dumb.
Everything's dumbed down.
It was real scholarship back in the 80s.
Don knows this better than anybody.
70s, 80s, and 90s, there was some real scholarship.
And journalism going on that actually frighten the establishment.
I don't think anything frightens them anymore.
They did a lot of suppression of people that were digging into conspiracy research and hidden hand and deep state stuff.
But that's not so anymore.
I mean, because it's so fractured, and I think they control so much of the...
And then you hear that in alternative media.
I've been called everything because I'm just going to give my analysis based on what I think is true.
And then I won't be enough for one side or I won't be enough for the other side.
It's crazy.
Then you'll be called a shill or a controlled op or whatever.
But there really is controlled ops.
And it's funny that the more controlled they are, the less people can see them.
That's another interesting part about all of this.
I think that's why, Billy.
It's just so much easier for them to run everything out in the open.
That goes back to the fifth generation warfare.
I don't think they have to do half of the things they used to do back in the day.
They have social media now.
It's the biggest tool for manipulation that maybe has ever been.
In our, what is it, in humanity's time here on Earth.
Social media can manipulate people in ways I've never, I mean, I can't.
I still have a hard time understanding how we are where we are right now.
Although I have, you know, theories and there's a lot of circumstantial evidence to back up certain things, it's still hard for me to figure out how the hell we got here.
It's so obvious to me.
That the road we're traveling down is filled with thorns and narrow.
And, you know, it's just not a good deal.
But people want to go down this road anywhere.
I don't understand.
And social media is one of the ways that perception is manipulated.
All of us got to see it in the election of 2024.
You know, and now people are turning around.
And saying, wait a minute, this is not what I voted for.
Like the head of Latinas for Trump, she came out and said, wait a minute, this is not what we voted for.
You know, maybe you weren't paying attention.
You know, I mean, maybe you weren't paying attention hard enough, I guess, you know, but people are starting to.
To what degree, I don't even know.
Because there's research of hardcore magas that still subscribe to Donald Trump and still think they're giving him time.
It's going to work out.
So they look at Trump as the chemotherapy that hurts now, but eventually you'll get better.
And that was all laid out by Trump and by Elon Musk as well.
You know, but that's how we got here, man, through the social media.
And these people are operating on a different level.
We have to get to that level.
We're trying to see it.
We're talking about fifth generation warfare and we're talking about mental manipulations.
But we're still, I think, divided into camps, even though we think we're not.
You know, I think we're still divided into the teams of MAGA and the teams of liberalism or maybe whatever economic system.
You feel that serves us better.
Like, we're still all divided into that.
And these are all discussions we should be able to have without getting triggered and without calling people all types of names or accusing them of evil things, which, just to circle back, would lead to somebody getting shot, you know, because they legit think these people are evil demons.
You know, people talk about New York like it's evil.
Like, it's part of the country.
You know, it's part of America.
You know, it's one of the fueling engines of America.
People talk about L.A. the same way.
Like, oh, my God, I can't live in L.A., whatever.
Maybe it's not for everybody, but to hate it to the degree that people do, I don't understand.
You know, so it's what California is the fourth biggest economy in the world.
It provides for a lot that we have here in the United States.
You know, but that's where we are.
To the point that I used to rule out, when people used to talk about a civil war, I would rule that out.
And secession, I'm like, no, that's not going to happen.
These are real possibilities at this point.
I hope it doesn't happen.
I don't know what the likelihood of it is.
But secession, if things continue this way, there are some states that are going to want to secede from the nation.
And that's going to trigger a civil war.
You know, so I don't want to see anything like that.
But it's likely.
I don't know how likely it is, but at least I can see it happening.
I definitely think states need to take more of an autonomous role in the future.
That's the only way that liberty really has a chance to exist, is smaller, more localized.
It just has to.
Thomas Jefferson recognizes it.
The larger the state, the smaller the citizen.
So I think that could be maybe a positive trend.
Hopefully it doesn't lead to a kinetic civil war or something like that.
I'd like to see states make more of their own decisions outside the federal government, which was the original intent of the founders, pre-Civil War, certainly.
I want to ask you both a question, just kind of shift gears a little bit, but back to the geopolitics of the Israeli strike on Iran.
Trying to figure out why the timeline was moved to this or why it's so hurried.
The only thing I can think of is that, and I've mentioned this before in the last America Unplugged that we did about a month ago that I was on, and I said, the issue with politics is it looks permanent, but it never is.
Don, I want to ask you, do you think, just knowing what you know about history, Does it look pretty likely that we're going to have some sort of democratic sweep in 2026, which would set us up for impeachment hearings and all that stuff that happened post-2018, last time with the first Trump administration, but maybe even worse this time?
If that's the case, is that why this war got moved up?
That they're just trying to do a hurry-up offense?
Are you following my logic here, what I'm trying to see?
Like, I'm wondering why all this has to happen now.
Yeah, well, I think that's typically what happens.
And then certainly with all the craziness that's going on, the people that the Democrats certainly ought to be, you know, fired up to, you know, vote for Democrats in the off-year elections.
But, you know, there's, as Billy was mentioning about the, Fifth generation warfare.
Fifth generation warfare.
That makes sense.
I don't know what the hell it is, but it makes sense.
You talk about that shooter guy.
I mean, all the serfs, like you go back to the guy that shot the CEO of the healthcare company.
That was very cut and dry.
This guy was upset about it, and he shot him.
So, I mean, I don't know whether it's more real or fake or anything else, but there was a motive, and there wasn't anything beyond that.
Now, you have with this guy, He shot Democratic lawmakers that had crossed over and voted against health care for illegal aliens.
So they're sending that message.
Well, it looks like a cut and dry method.
He was pissed off about that because he doesn't want to get illegals to get through health care.
That seemed to be the motive.
Apparently, he's got a neighbor talking about who listens to InfoWars.
He certainly wanted to get that mindset from InfoWars.
And he's got no King's thing.
So it was very Lee Harvey Oswald-like.
Because, you know, if you go back and look at that, Oswald had, you know, fingerprints.
He was a Marxist.
He defected to Russia, supposedly.
But he associated with anti-Castro Cubans.
And he obviously was an intelligence asset.
So that's the kind of things we call fifth generation warfare.
I don't know.
But again, it's to muddy up the waters.
And you mentioned Jared Lee Loeffner.
Tony, the guy that supposedly shot Gabby Giffords.
And again, that's all over the place.
You don't know what that guy was.
And so what is the motive here?
So what is the, you know, what are they going to do in terms of Democrats and Republicans?
I would think it's in their best interest to have Democrats take both houses.
And that might happen anyhow, naturally.
I don't know, but because they want So the best we can hope for is gridlock, which is a hell of a commentary on our political system.
But you can see this is playing out like the first Trump administration.
The first Trump administration, he had both houses in Congress for the first two years as well.
And he got nothing done.
He has both houses here.
He's getting nothing done.
So once, and then it'll be tailor-made once he gets in, the Democrats come back just like last time.
Well, what do you expect them to do?
Well, the Democrats run Congress.
What can you do?
Couldn't get past those Democrats.
And especially if they start impeaching him again.
Which, I mean, if they impeached him on the nonsense they did the first time, I'm sure they can find something, you know, at least, you know, more substantial than that they can try to, you know, impeach him on.
So I see that probably happening, but I don't make predictions.
I don't know.
Like, I still, I'm holding on hope that we're not going to, that this is going to be another head fake and more fear pouring for World War III, because that's been hanging over our heads now for, as long as we've been doing an American plug, because we talked about it almost every show.
How many years is that?
So I think that this looks like it, but I really think, as I was saying to Tony earlier, I think that, or saying to your audience earlier because we couldn't talk as my echo, but it looks like however real this is, it looks like Iran is not like those other countries.
And I have a connection there because my brother-in-law is an Iranian.
I've met tons of Iranians over the years.
My sister lived in Tehran for many years.
And I know the people, and I can tell you, that whole, and I've known a lot of Afghanis too, because Afghani, you wonder why we didn't, we in Russia couldn't win in Afghanistan.
You have to meet the people.
This is the ultimate macho.
These guys, that's why you see the Palestinian kids throwing rocks at tanks.
They will do that.
So if they really want to do this, they're going to have to wipe out every one of those people.
Maybe they want to do that.
But you're going to have to do that because you're not going to get them to surrender.
And that's why I think, you know, you remember Saddam Hussein, I remember he said, bring it on, it's the mother of all wars or something.
It was ridiculous.
He really had no defense at all.
It was a joke.
But that was the mindset.
That's the mindset of the people and the Iranians especially.
And they rightfully have a reason because, again, Iran's never done anything other than the hostage situation, which can be tied to the politics of the time.
We screwed around in Iran going back to Mossadegh when the CIA overthrew him in 1954.
We installed the puppet, the Shah, for the 1960s, who was one of our friendly dictators.
We've been involved there and then they saw, you know, and I can tell you from my sister lived in Iran, I don't know where the religious fundamentalists were, but they didn't exist then.
There was no, there was, they had no power at all.
Iran was very Americanized in the 1960s.
You can see pictures of bikinis and everything.
I mean, it was, and I know my sister lives very, they had a lot of Americans living there.
And when the fundamentals took over, I don't know where this came out, but now they have a different mindset and it's obviously, I don't know what happened, but I'm sorry.
I'll talk about this as long as I can, because if we actually do go to war, and we go on the war side of Iraq, I mean, Israel, which we would obviously do, we may not be able to talk about this.
Because we're at war.
So I'm going to get it out while I can, but this is absolutely ridiculous.
When you can have a country bomb Pray for Israel?
What are you talking about?
Does Iran not have the right to defend itself?
So I have no problem with them fighting back.
I don't want to see anybody die, but there's a lot of people over there in that part of the world.
If I had been bombed and I'd seen a thing like that, I would have every reason to applaud.
If they got their, you know, if they got their gestures, desserts.
And so it'll be interesting to see.
But if I was around, I'll put that out there.
Do any Iranians have any influence over there?
To whatever degree Trump's personality is real, he obviously has this ego that I think is mostly an act, but whatever he has.
I would try to play on that if I was the Iranians.
And I would try to put something out there.
Hey, you know.
I know you're the first guy to be able to stand up to Israel Trump.
No one else could do it but you.
You can stand up to him.
You're not going to let that Netanyahu push you around.
You're not going to be a puppet for these guys.
I know they can't do that to Trump because he's too powerful.
Maybe it will work.
I don't know.
I would try it.
I don't know.
Nothing else would work.
One second, real quick.
I want to ask Don something about 1917.
That's the Espionage Act, right?
Woodrow Wilson, Don.
Didn't they in prison?
Was it Eugene Debs that went to prison for speaking out of World War I?
There's a precedence for if you're anti-war, especially if it's bipartisan, you run the risk of being silenced.
Anyway, that's why I wanted to, before I lost that train of thought.
Go ahead, Billy.
No, I just I think that Don is correct.
I think that Iran Don't be so open about it, but definitely because I think that's what's happening right now anyway with somebody like a Stephen Miller, you know, or a Steve Betti.
They will stroke this guy's ego and they're able to manipulate him as a result of that.
You know, that's really as easy as it was.
And I remember telling Tony, I don't know if you remember this, months ago.
I'm like, Tony, I think they figured this out.
I think they got this guy totally controlled, and it's not even the way we would think.
I think they just stroke his ego for a little bit, and then he's good with it.
It's just whatever.
So I understand that.
If I was the Iranians, I would take that position also.
Yes, you can do it.
There's no one else that can do it.
Only you.
You were sent by God.
You were sent by God to change this, Mr. Trump.
And I love your shoes.
You know, just throwing everything in the kitchen sink.
And I think it would work.
I really do.
Well, at least to a degree, it would work until somebody got their claws from his present administration.
But the initial question, Tone, was what do you think is going to happen?
Like, why are they...
Why are they accelerating things?
Because, you know, 2026, 2027 is coming up, 2026 elections.
Like, you know, sometimes, and I'm trying to not listen as much because I value my eardrums, but I listen to Steve Bannon from time to time, and he's been talking about this from almost the beginning of the administration.
He's like, 2026 is going to come around.
And we are going to lose.
We are going to lose.
So we need to get everything out now.
We have two years.
We have two years before the Democrats take the House and maybe the Senate.
This is his words.
This is what he's saying.
So we need to get everything out as soon as possible.
Pedal to the metal.
And he also thinks that they're going to attempt to impeach Donald Trump, which I am 100% for.
I would like impeachment and removal of that maniac.
He is a maniac.
If we're going to slow this down, right?
Tony mentions it all the time on America Unplugged, and Don just mentioned it today.
We need some friction.
We need some gridlock.
We need it.
And if we're going to do that, I know a lot of MAGA people subscribe to the authoritarianism that's going on right now.
I certainly don't.
I know an authoritarian when I see one, and I know when our liberties are being yanked from us when I see it.
So I don't want that.
I don't want that.
We need gridlock.
And we need it now.
So I'm fully for it.
I'm fully for an impeachment.
I'm fully for a removal.
I'm fully for the Democrats taking over the House and the Senate.
And what is that going to result in?
Is it going to result in any of the things that you want to get done?
Probably not.
But it will slow down this inevitable rolling down this hill to the end of the United States.
And I'd like to avoid that.
I'd like to avoid World War III.
Which looks more and more likely under this big orange buffoon.
You know, I'd like to stop that somehow.
He wants Putin to mediate between Israel and Iran.
I'm like, what is this guy Putin?
I'm like, at some point, we really need to start talking about his mental stability.
I'm like, this guy just is fighting a war already, and you want him to mediate?
Like, what happened to you?
I thought he was the ultimate dealmaker.
That's going to solve everything.
Like, I really wish Donald Trump was the president of the United States at this point, because this war in Israel and Iran certainly wouldn't be happening.
I tweeted that out the other day.
I'm like, if he was president, that wouldn't be happening.
Clearly, he is president, and it is happening.
He is a liar.
He is a con man.
And I know saying these things, like putting them out there, is not going to change anything.
It'll just cause people...
That's the way it's meant to proceed.
Once you attack this guy, you take it as a personal attack on yourself.
You're like, oh, you're attacking Trump, you're attacking me.
I remember I saw Kid Rock when Trump got shot.
He came out and made a video.
He's like, you F with Trump?
You F with me?
And I'm like, what does that have to do?
What is he going to do?
What are you going to do besides dress up and play bad music?
What are you going to do?
Meanwhile, Kid Rock's restaurant got shut down because he had nothing but illegal aliens working in the back.
And they wouldn't show up to work because they thought they were going to get arrested.
So his restaurant had to shut down for a couple of days.
I'm going to talk about the hypocrisy there.
Trump is still employing illegal immigrants, apparently.
He was using them the other day for something.
It's just hypocrisy upon hypocrisy upon hypocrisy.
So yeah, in 2026, I don't know what the likelihood is.
I thought these things were no-brainers.
I guess not.
It's a very different America than I thought I lived in.
So I don't know if that'll actually happen in 2026, meaning the Democrats will take back power.
But they're actively planning for it.
You know, and if you guys want an inside look on what's going on in MAGA, you want to be three, four, five months ahead, tune in to Steve Bannon.
He's a horrible talk show host, but he's a brilliant man.
He's an evil man, maybe, but he's a brilliant man.
And he strategizes all of this stuff.
And that's the main reason I know what's going to happen with MAGA two months ahead is because he's saying it.
He's just saying it.
He's openly saying it.
You guys used to say it.
Anybody that used to listen to Infowars, they were like, oh, well, I'm not a genius, right?
I don't have a crystal ball.
These documents are open.
They're out in the open.
They're all out there is what he used to say.
Well, it's the same deal here.
Steve Bannon is openly saying what's going to happen, and he's been talking about 2026 for some time, and he seems to think that there is a big possibility that the Democrats are going to take over and they're going to try to impeach Donald Trump.
Well, I mean, that's what I would just think that right off the bat.
That's just for me, just studying history and politics, which I'm not even, it's hard for me to even be interested anymore, given the left-right paradigm is so fake.
I mean, you talk about the only thing you can really get gridlock on is when there might be something beneficial to the American people, whether it's infrastructure or drug prices or regulation or some sort of like, hey, let's make sure that the free market works or semblance of.
It's not a free market anymore.
But that's the only time you get gridlock.
Where you get, like, the skids are greased is you get warfare, welfare state.
Both parties agree.
Both parties are puppets for the technocracy.
So, I mean, nothing really stops the technocratic push in a different form, whether it's CBDC or through some back or stablecoin thing.
It's the same deal.
It's the same.
To me, it's the same people.
Doing the same thing, doing the same dance.
But you mentioned something earlier, which Trump wants to put Putin in charge of the negotiations for Iran and Israel.
I just saw, before we went live, I just saw a story about Zelensky saying how Iran was such a threat, so obviously he's taking his orders for Israel.
So that would be interesting if we could get Zelensky to negotiate with Putin over the scope of Iran.
Maybe we could do that.
Miracles do happen.
Maybe we'll get some peace finally.
If we get some peace, I'm all for it.
Let them do it.
Let them take credit for it.
I'll be very happy with it.
But I think, Tony, I think ultimately you're right.
But things have devolved in a way where we need gridlock to stop Things like having, you know, posse commentatus just, like, ignored, right?
Or, like, habeas corpus.
Like, this is on a level that I haven't seen in my lifetime, you know?
And everything goes in cycles.
We'll survive it.
You know, we'll survive this.
Everything goes in cycles.
But we won't be a superpower anymore.
It's debatable whether or not we're a superpower now, you know?
It's just not going to happen.
Besides that, the people of the United States are under real danger here.
And I want to stress here, there's a lot of racial profiling going on because of these deportations.
And these are American citizens, which I said was going to happen on America Unplugged months ago.
It's happening.
And I mentioned this the last time I was on with Travis.
If you have to push back just for selfish reasons, go ahead and do it.
Go ahead and do it.
You may not care what happens to other people, but maybe you care what happens to you.
So push back on this stuff, because eventually it's going to knock on your door.
It's going to.
This is lawlessness what's going on here.
So we do need...
We need some people to push back on this.
And I would urge everybody to participate in the process.
I haven't voted for the majority of my life.
You guys know I voted for Ron Paul.
That's the only time I voted.
I'm going to go out and vote for every single thing I can here.
And I'm not voting MAGA.
Notice I didn't say Republican.
I'm not voting MAGA at all.
At all.
I will vote for a piece of driftwood before I vote for MAGA.
And that's in the best interest of every American at this point, what they're doing to day-to-day people on the street, innocent people.
Putting on masks, throwing them in the back of Vans, that's not a good look for anyone.
So I would urge people to try to do something about that before it knocks on your door, because it inevitably will.
I regret now that I have to return all of the birthday presents I got you this year.
I didn't realize you were so anti-MAGA, Billy.
Oh, damn.
But if you got me a pair of the MAGA sneakers, I'll take those.
And the MAGA guitar, I want one.
So I'll take those if you did that.
It's what's going to be hard to return.
It's the shipping on that giant Trump idol from the CPAC.
Go.
I got that one for you.
I want that too.
It's the Golden Gate.
Hey, Don, do you have to go?
I appreciate it.
Good talking to you guys.
DonaldJeffries.substack.com.
I protest.
The only place in the chat about it.
I appreciate it.
It was great being with you guys.
Thank you, Don.
Later, sir.
Take care.
You know what I really want, Tony?
Since you have the means, I know you do.
So what I really want is the Ark of the Covenant that he has.
Why do I have domains for the Ark of the Covenant?
I don't know.
You go off on missions all the time.
I'm fully aware of this.
I know all the artifacts you have stored over there in Wise Wolf.
Listen, all I want is...
It's not even a real one.
Just take it from him and give it to me.
I'd love for you to do that.
Well, I would love to.
I'd like to take, if I could get the actual Ark of the Covenant, take it to Congress, and then me and you would just have, like, ready blindfolds, and we'd just open it, have everybody look at it, you know, and it's like the end of the Raiders.
Don't open your eyes!
Don't open your eyes!
You know, we'll just go back-to-back against the post.
I'm like, don't look directly at it.
Right, right, right.
We already have the heads up.
You know, Off topic.
I mean, on the topic we're talking about now, I think about that often.
I'm obsessed with the Ark of the Covenant.
One of these days, I want to go to Ethiopia because they claim they have it there.
And I know they have something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm familiar.
It's in, I think, Atum, right.
Ethiopia where they have it.
And the guy that's in, there's one guy that's dedicated to...
That's it.
He never leaves.
And they did an interview with him once and his eyes, he has something wrong with his eyes and he says it's the Ark.
He said it was a thing of fire.
And that's what did damage to his eyes.
You need to do a series on it.
You got to get back to what's interesting.
That's a great idea, actually, Tony.
You should do it with me.
Yeah, do it with me.
Paratruther.
I have some paratruthers I want to do, but all history stuff.
I'm going to do the Fourth Reich and some of the stuff in Operation Paperclip.
I've got a great interview on Gold coming up.
We only got like two minutes left, and I want to close right.
So tell people where they can find you, Billy.
I know we're just kidding.
Well, you know, if you so choose, BRV 17 That's the Bavarian Illuminati, not anything related to MAGA, guys.
So BRV1776 at gmail.com.
Hit me up there.
America Unplugged, 12 p.m. Eastern every Saturday and my show on Ground Zero+.
We should talk about that tone because you could do a paratroother before me if you want.
Since you typically do that anyway, but we could do it back-to-back.
You know, I've been operating without a name over there at Ground Zero Plus, 7 p.m. on Sundays.
I'm going to call it Gorilla Underground.
Shouts to my boy, Twisted.
That's what I'm going to call it.
So that's 7 p.m. on Sundays over there on Ground Zero Plus and on Tony's X. He's nice enough to let me stream there, so I appreciate it.
Thank you, buddy.
That's it, man.
That's all I got.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate the audience, and thanks for bearing with us through technical difficulties.
We ended up having 1,228 people watching live, so that's fun.
I'll be back tomorrow.
I've got Charlie Robinson on, Octopus of Global Control, the controlled demolition of the American Empire.
Myself, we'll get into some parapolitics and precious metals.
Thank you, Billy.
I'm going to see if I can play the outro.
Hold on a second.
We're going to see if we can do this, and I'll have to take us offline to make it work right.
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Let me see if I can make this work.
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