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March 5, 2025 - The David Knight Show

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Tue Episode 1964: Ukraine Pipeline Corruption, Car Price Explosion, and Vaccine Vipers

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	The End
	In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 4th of March of our Lord 2025.
	Well, today we're going to take a look at tariffs.
	They've already landed, I guess.
	We're going to take a look at what the effects are going to be.
	They were delayed for 30 days.
	We're also going to take a look at RFK Jr., who has done what many of us thought he was going to do.
	Joined with a pharmaceutical company, isn't it?
	Pushing the measles vaccine.
	Doing an op-ed piece on Fox News.
	Fox News and this Dr. Mark Siegel guy.
	One of the biggest pushers of vaccines.
	He's so excited about all this stuff.
	Maybe they should change the way they spell their name.
	P-H-O-X. In honor of their pharmaceutical owners.
	Owners.
	These people pushed the Trump shot.
	And so did others like Breitbart, who are also making excuses for RFKJ. I guess a J stands for jab.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	Well, we had a comment we had a comment left over from yesterday that I didn't see until the very end.
	We were talking about Nicole Shanahan, who was the running mate of RFKJ. She seems to be a sincere person, if somewhat naive, but nevertheless, she was talking about her personal testimony.
	She was talking about her child who was named Echo.
	Echo.
	I already had one of the best comments.
	Does Echo have a twin?
	Because it'd be chamber, right?
	Save that comment.
	I'm going to talk about that tomorrow.
	But let's get to the tariffs.
	Trump announces his 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico take effect at midnight last night.
	He said they're all set.
	He announced these things 30 days ago and said, I'll give them 30 days to comply, to stop all fentanyl trade.
	And of course, you know, we're looking at a microscopic amount of fentanyl that's coming across the border from Canada.
	And yet, you know, you know that he was just preparing for how they were going to roll this out and preparing everybody.
	You know, it's a gradual, how do you do this kind of disruption?
	As Fauci said, you do it from the inside.
	You do it with chaos and you do it iteratively.
	Well, that's what he's doing with his tariffs.
	So he said, they've got no room left for talks to avoid this.
	He said, the journalist asked him yesterday, on the terrace, is there any room left for Canada and Mexico to make a deal before midnight?
	No room left for Mexico or for Canada, he said.
	No, the terrace, you know, they're all set.
	And they go into effect.
	Midnight, last night.
	So Trump added that the new terrace on Chinese-made goods would be 20%, twice what he had originally said, about 10%.
	And, of course, China, Mexico, and Canada are coincidentally the top three sources of imports, collectively.
	And about half of the goods sold in America flow through these countries, so you can expect prices to go up significantly on things, especially on cars, since, as I pointed out, The cars, in many cases, the parts are going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
	Why did they do that?
	Well, because they were encouraged by Trump and the first Trump administration as he continued and built upon NAFTA and this thing that he just rebranded as NAFTA, right?
	The USMCA, he called it.
	It's like YMCA. And that's what I said when he did it.
	I said, YMCA. Why don't you just get rid of this thing?
	NAFTA has always been a bad deal.
	NAFTA was always a giant sucking sound.
	You know, I think it's kind of interesting that Trump flirted with the idea, seriously, of running as the candidate in the Reform Party, the one that had been set up by Ross Perot.
	And yet, in his first administration, he was all about these free trade deals and about unifying North America.
	Into the North American Union type of thing.
	Well, he's got bigger plans now.
	Now his idea is that he wants to include Greenland and Canada, and he wants to rule over them, like the technocrats always said.
	So maybe he'll do it more coercively.
	And so he had propagated this fraud of NAFTA, and now he is, because of that, He had these people building automobile plants in Canada and Mexico, things like that.
	And now he's pulled the rug out from underneath them.
	What do you think he's going to do with the crypto stuff?
	He's encouraging people to jump into that kind of stuff.
	What kind of a rug pull is he going to do on those people?
	It's his character, folks.
	It's his character.
	It says there's likely to be notable impact on consumer costs.
	That's an understatement, I think.
	All three major U.S. stock indexes spiraled downward.
	They think that it's going to be negative for the economy.
	I think so, too.
	And so does Trump.
	He says, oh, it's going to be tough at first.
	Are you going to get used to it?
	Same thing that Biden said.
	About when he's arbitrarily banning appliances and heaters and all this other kind of stuff because of his green agenda.
	Well, it's going to be really painful for you.
	And you're going to be a lot poorer.
	But we've got to go there.
	That's where I want to go.
	That's my geopolitical goals are the green agenda.
	Well, Trump's got another agenda, which he hasn't really articulated exactly.
	We can try to guess what it is.
	But he doesn't care about you.
	He cares about his agenda.
	It's a war against you.
	It's a war against your prosperity, your freedom, your liberty.
	And it's what he wants to do.
	He doesn't really care what happens to you.
	He, like Biden, has an agenda.
	This is a little bit different.
	But you are expendable.
	So is your lifestyle and your life if it gets in the way.
	All three major stock indexes spiraled downward.
	The Dow Jones was down by 1.5%.
	The NASDAQ was down by 2.6%.
	And, you know, Trump used to use the stock market as his main metric of success, which it's not, right?
	Except for people like Donald Trump, who only care about the elites.
	Trump and the Mexican president rushed, rather not Trump, but Trudeau.
	And the Mexican president had rushed in this 30-day period to say, we're going to stop all the fentanyl smuggling and the illegal immigration.
	And, of course, the illegal immigration across the U.S.-Mexican border is down significantly.
	Trump doesn't care.
	So now he doesn't have that excuse.
	There's no illegals coming across the Canadian border in spite of the nonsense that Jack Posobiec is trying to put fear into people.
	Just a reprehensible person doing that kind of stuff.
	You know, the border traffic is way down for whatever reason.
	And so he doesn't have that excuse.
	So he falls back on fentanyl.
	Fentanyl.
	And as I pointed out, that is also an excuse.
	And Brian Shalhavi has got an excellent article about that.
	It was always a flimsy, ridiculous excuse for Canada.
	Canada doesn't have...
	We're not having massive numbers of illegals coming across the Canadian border.
	We're not having massive amounts of fentanyl coming across the Canadian border.
	That is a bowl-faced lie, and everybody knows it.
	The mainstream media and the Trump supporters will tell you otherwise, but everybody knows that's not true.
	As a matter of fact, you look at what Canada interdicted, and it's like, we've got 28 pills.
	Okay.
	And, you know, don't tell me that fentanyl is dangerous.
	I know that fentanyl is dangerous.
	Guess what?
	It's just as dangerous if it's made by a U.S. pharmaceutical company as it is if it's made by China.
	Isn't it?
	Who gave us the opioid epidemic?
	Johnson& Johnson.
	Purdue Pharmaceutical and the Sackler family.
	Did they come after them and seize all of their assets like they did El Chapo?
	No.
	Was their epidemic worse or as bad as anything we ever got from El Chapo?
	Yes.
	Why didn't they go after those drug dealers?
	You know the answer to that.
	And that is really the reality here with fentanyl.
	Trump is also put on tariffs on steel and aluminum.
	Why?
	To protect American producers of steel and aluminum.
	Why do you think he's coming after the fentanyl stuff, right?
	He's lying about it, except in Mexico.
	But, you know, the Canadian thing is a lie.
	The Mexican thing is true.
	There is a lot of fentanyl coming through Mexico.
	He wants to make sure that the pharmaceutical companies have got a monopoly on that.
	Just like he wants to make sure that, you know, our fentanyl needs to be made in the U.S. Our steel and aluminum needs to be made in the U.S. I think that's a big part of it.
	The other part of it is that...
	He's an agent of case.
	This is not going to work out well.
	It is not.
	So, the perfect example, I would say, of, you know, we talk about fentanyl coming across from Canada.
	He says, vast amounts of fentanyl have poured into our country from Mexico, and as you know, also from China, where it goes to Mexico and goes to Canada, he says.
	There's a perfect example of what people say.
	Never take him literally because he lies.
	But take him seriously, because he's dangerous.
	China is a primary producer of the fentanyl that killed at least 279,000 Americans over the past four years.
	I mean, it is a serious thing.
	But, you know, when we look at the drug war that has been going on now since 1971, so 54 years nearly, I don't know what date it was enacted, but it's coming up to 54 years.
	As with every prohibition, When you prohibit something, you wind up creating black market monopolies, gangs that are very, very dangerous.
	They kill their competitors and a lot of innocent people in addition to it, just like the alcohol prohibition, people being machine gunned in the street.
	You also get concentrated in more dangerous forms of whatever it is that you're trying to prohibit.
	During alcohol prohibition, it was bathtub gin that was causing some people to go blind.
	People didn't go blind from drinking alcoholic drinks until you had prohibition.
	And what we have seen is they've even intensified marijuana.
	And so everything that you prohibit, you wind up getting an intensified black market version of it.
	It corrupts law enforcement.
	It corrupts courts.
	It corrupts politicians.
	And then they use all of that to take our liberties.
	And so basically the CDC, this is CDC saying fentanyl is all coming from China.
	They're covering for big pharmaceutical companies again.
	They covered for the big pharmaceutical companies throughout the opioid epidemic that was destroying people's lives.
	So Trump has enacted stiffer penalties on steel and aluminum as well to protect the producers of that.
	So now we're going to protect the producers of fentanyl, the big pharmaceutical companies.
	He wrote on social media Monday that he would be adopting agricultural tariffs on April 2nd.
	Backfire big time because that is one of our big exports.
	And the people who are the customers have more of a say on that.
	In other words, Trump can enact tariffs on China because we get a lot more from China.
	They don't buy much stuff from us.
	So they don't really have a way that they can retaliate.
	Now, Canada probably does have a way that they can retaliate against us economically.
	But China can't because...
	As Trump would say, we hold all the cards here, right?
	We got all the cards.
	We're the ones who are the customers, so we don't have to buy your stuff.
	But far more than the agricultural tariffs, which in the last time did hurt a lot of farmers, and they had to, after Trump did that, he had to give them some special relief.
	Stimulus check type of thing, right?
	After he shut them down, he gave them a little bit of a stimulus check.
	It still put a lot of them out of business because it wasn't enough, just like what he did with COVID. But what is...
	Even more concerning to me is what is going on with the eggs.
	And of course, that is part of the vaccine agenda, the pharmaceutical agenda as well.
	And that's Trump's USDA. He's basically putting sanctions on our eggs.
	And it's for the pharmaceutical companies again.
	There could be some temporary short-term disruption, said Trump, and people will understand that.
	No, I won't.
	I won't.
	I didn't understand it.
	When Biden said, it's going to be a lot of pain, but it'll be temporary because we've got to get to where I want to go.
	Well, Trump is saying the same thing.
	You're going to have to suffer because I've got something I want to do.
	Isn't it nice how they work for us?
	So the markets sink as he confirms the tariffs and as everybody confirms the consensus that this is bad for business, bad for consumers, bad for inflation.
	Let's be clear.
	If Trump is imposing tariffs, we're ready, says the Canadian official in charge of this.
	Jolie noted that Canada did not want a trade war, but would hit back if the U.S. started one.
	Said, tariffs are an existential threat to us with thousands of jobs in Canada at stake.
	And again, they don't have the cads.
	Just like China, because we're more of a customer of theirs than they are of us.
	So, again, it's a 180-degree turn from his NAFTA rebrand.
	But here's what the car companies are saying.
	Car prices are poised for a $12,000 surge.
	Surge, you know, like Fauci's surge.
	We've got a surge here, car prices.
	On the Trump new tariffs.
	This is not the car companies per se.
	They've been pleading with Lucky Lutnik, who is setting up his crypto casino.
	And he doesn't care as Commerce Secretary.
	But this is the analysis of an automotive company, Anderson Economic Group, an automotive consultant firm in East Lansing, Michigan.
	They said it's going to wreak havoc across the intricate web of automotive supply lines spanning the continent.
	You can pay more for spare parts, too, probably.
	So, again, it's a back-and-forth.
	In a lot of regards, it's going to be like a VAT tax where the taxes hit each time it goes back and forth.
	The cost to build a crossover utility vehicle will rise by at least $4,000, said Anderson Economic Group, while the increase would be three times that for an electric vehicle that they examined in a study that they put through.
	They said that kind of cost increase will lead directly, and I expect almost immediately.
	To a decline in the sales of the models that have the biggest trade impact.
	Tariffs of 25% on imports from Canada and Mexico threaten to exacerbate an automotive affordability crisis that is already driving buyers out of the market.
	Even before these new taxes, they call them duties.
	You can call them tariffs, you can call them duties, whatever.
	It's a tax.
	New taxes from Trump.
	A tax and spend Democrat from New York City.
	So, it's an affordability crisis.
	Before the duties, sticker prices were already approaching $50,000 on average.
	I remember it's just a couple of years ago that I was talking to Eric Peters.
	He said, can you believe it?
	You know, the average cost is now $40,000.
	Well, that's escalated up big time.
	It's kind of like eggs.
	Why are car prices going up like eggs?
	Well, the eggs are going up because of our government.
	The car prices are going up because of our government.
	They're the ones who are doing this through regulation, through killing, everything, our food supply, our mobility, everything.
	Car prices now averaging $50,000.
	Up more than 20% from five years ago.
	So it was only five years ago that we're talking about that.
	At $40,000, it would have been up by...
	25%, but it was probably about five years ago that we were talking about it being about $40,000.
	The situation also calls into question Trump's campaign promises to stem inflation as consumer confidence falls to a four-year low on fears of the impact of his import taxes.
	Trump has brushed aside industry leaders who've warned that the measures will cause severe damage to industry sales, profits, and employment.
	They said it also affects some of the industry's most recognizable and best-selling models, such as Chevy Silverado pickup and the Ford Bronco Sport SUV. Now, here's one thing.
	I didn't look at it, but it just dawned on me as I'm reading this to you, that I don't think that Tesla makes his cars in Mexico or Canada.
	I think they're all made in Texas, really.
	And he does make cars in China, but those are cars for the Chinese market.
	He doesn't have them for export to the U.S., I'm pretty sure.
	So interesting that these policies will help Elon Musk, I think.
	Far more than they help Ford General Motors or Stellantis that owns Chrysler.
	Top executives from GM Ford and Chrysler parent Stellantis last week spoke in a Zoom meeting with the Commerce Department.
	That's Lucky Lutniks.
	Pump and dump crypto department.
	Same people coming up with this.
	Hey, let's give a gold card to everybody, all the foreigners who will pay us $5 million.
	Let's give them a gold card.
	And we're going to talk about that coming up as well.
	What is the gold card plus?
	You know, it's actually green card plus is what he said.
	So, you know, like I said when I first talked about this.
	American Express has got its green card, the ordinary American Express.
	And then if you want the gold card, you know, that's a prestigious thing.
	He's just thinking along those lines.
	You don't want that Visa card.
	You want the American Express, the Trump Express, we'll call it.
	Making American Express a metaphor again.
	So, during the meeting, Ford and Stellantis executives stressed that the White House should focus instead on the millions of imported vehicles.
	With no U.S. parts content.
	In other words, if we hit U.S. parts on this, that means that it's going back and forth, the parts at least, and the components are going, and they're getting taxed as a VAT tax.
	So, just put an import on things that don't already have U.S. parts.
	Nope, going to put it on all the stuff.
	Consumers may find some vehicles vanish altogether as automakers stop producing models that are squeezed especially hard.
	And even if the tariffs prove to be short-lived, car makers are already taking steps to contain the fallout.
	You see, it's kind of like a one-two punch, isn't it?
	Biden puts all kinds of emissions regulations and fuel economy regulations and, you know, you've got to change over to EVs.
	Okay, okay.
	So a change of EVs are losing money in massive amounts because nobody wants them.
	It's a Biden mandate.
	Nobody wants these Trump tariffs either.
	And so Biden does regulations and then Trump comes in with taxes.
	So one-two punch to kill cars so that we all have to get our cars from Elon Musk.
	We rent them by the ride if we're allowed to go anywhere at all in our 15-minute freedom cities.
	A large SUV with significant content from Mexico would see a nearly $9,000 increase, while a pickup would see an $8,000 increase, the study found.
	Tariffs on the scale that Trump has threatened would have a sharp negative effect on auto sales, said the automotive analyst at Anderson.
	Car sales are already falling.
	As consumers, we're grappling with higher prices and much higher interest rates.
	Oh, you don't need me to tell you that.
	Some of those vehicles can't be produced in the U.S., just probably won't be made for a while, they said.
	GM produces its full-size Chevy Silverado pickups in Mexico, Canada, and the U.S., while Stellantis makes Ram pickups in Mexico.
	Because Trump told him to.
	We're going to do this U.S.-Mexico-Canada deal.
	Oh, no, that's all off.
	Chaos.
	An agent of chaos.
	The expectation is that at worst, they're around for a couple months, and at best, they keep getting pushed off.
	These are not intended as trade actions.
	These are border security negotiations, said one of the automotive consultants.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Don't take Trump literally.
	Take him seriously.
	You better take these terrorists seriously.
	This isn't about fentanyl.
	Not at all.
	So, you know, he has said, actually, you'll make the cars and things in America, you won't make them at all.
	So if people don't make them in America, we won't have them either.
	Or we can pay really, really high prices, which he and his buddies don't care how much it costs them.
	Right?
	Look at the money that they blow on dresses, for example.
	Not that Trump is wearing dresses, unless it's something I don't know about it.
	We haven't seen any pictures of him in a blue dress, like we saw Bill Clinton in a blue dress in Jeffrey Epstein's place, but who knows?
	I mean, he was pushing the trannies into his beauty contest.
	We may find out someday.
	Maybe that's in the Epstein list, in the Epstein files.
	Find out whether or not Trump wears a dress.
	I don't know.
	No, but I'm talking about Melania, the ridiculous, absurd amounts that she spends on her wardrobe.
	In the meantime, auto companies are stocking supplies to cushion the blow.
	Ford's engine plant in Windsor, Ontario, is racing product over the U.S.-Canada border in anticipation of the tariffs, said the local union representative.
	He said the company has spent the past month securing warehouse space in the U.S. to store finished engines and parts.
	Non-productive efforts.
	They're not producing anything.
	They're scrambling around trying to avoid these ridiculous tariffs that he's putting on everything.
	Incurring extra expense.
	Move the stuff in real quickly.
	Find some warehouses.
	Let's put that stuff in.
	This is what regulations always do.
	And taxes always do.
	It is the power to destroy.
	So we usually store them here until we're ready to send them to the truck plants, he said.
	But they're finding places in the States to store those engines so they won't get tariffed.
	But the potential blow is immense, considering that the industry is struggling to maintain single-digit profit margins and losing billions on its new electric vehicle model lines.
	Again, the one-two punch from Biden and Trump.
	Regulations and mandates.
	And then the tariffs.
	Regulations and mandates from Biden and the tariffs from Trump.
	And then you look at how this is all working out.
	It's now become a regular thing for sports fans because they get caught up.
	They're primed for this partisanship stuff.
	I am firmly of the belief that that's the whole purpose of sports from junior high school on.
	It's to train you to think like a tribal hive, right?
	I was laughing about that when we were in high school.
	You know, it's like, okay, we're playing Plant City this week.
	And so, you know, Plant City, they're horrible.
	You know, Plant High School wasn't Plant City.
	Plant City was where Karen talked about.
	Plant High School is where we were playing, right?
	And so, yeah, they're the enemy, you know, and they're, oh, boo, boo, you know, and they have these big pep rallies and stuff, which I had to attend because I was in the band.
	And those of us in the band were laughing at them and screaming, make them bleed!
	Go for everything!
	You know, just kill these guys!
	Kill them!
	And then, you know, the next week it's Hillsborough, you know?
	I mean, it's just, you always have this, and it was straight out of 1984. This week, we are against Oceania, you know?
	It's whatever.
	It was just, it was crazy, but they prime people for that.
	And these are the people who love this Republican-Democrat blue-red stuff.
	You even got colors for them.
	Got mascots, all the rest of the stuff.
	And they've got their sports heroes as well.
	So Canadians are booing the U.S. National Anthem, this time at a WWE Elimination Chamber.
	This was in Toronto.
	And this has been going on now.
	Since Trump started his, we're going to make Canada the 51st state.
	We're going to tax things coming out of Canada.
	This is the first time the Canadians have booed the playing of the U.S. National Anthem in the last, far from the first time, in the last two months.
	Nearly every game and every sport where a U.S. team has traveled to Canada has been beset by Canadians booing the American National Anthem.
	Isn't that great?
	You know, when I look at Trump, do you remember, I think it was, was it A Hard Day's Night?
	We had The Uncle or something.
	The Beatles, black and white film.
	I remember they were on a train or something, and one of them had a really old uncle.
	And he used to delight in mixing it up with everybody, making everybody mad at each other, starting fights, you know.
	Every time I'd look at Trump, I'd think about that movie.
	When I saw it, I thought, that's the strangest thing.
	I've never known anybody like that.
	Now I do.
	It just exists to create conflict and chaos and animosity where none existed prior.
	New York Rangers fans, of course, as I pointed out, they booed the Toronto Maple Leafs on Friday night.
	So here we are, you know, now the sports fans.
	Again, the people who fall into this left-right partisan paradigm stuff.
	Perfectly.
	They're out there booing each other.
	So, we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to talk about what's happening with the Nord Stream pipeline.
	It appears, based on German reports, that we're about to do a deal with the Russians and help them get this started again.
	Kind of like Vietnam or something, isn't it?
	OctoSpook said, we are the soldiers in the tariff wars.
	It'll be the average American pocketbooks on the front line, and food will be...
	The first tariff battlegrounds.
	I agree.
	Yeah, we're the ones who'll pay for it.
	Floored Patriot.
	How many Epstein clients were indicted yesterday?
	I love the headline from one person.
	What if I told you there were no Epstein files?
	What would you think?
	It's like, yeah, what if I really told you the truth?
	Would you believe me?
	No, they will never believe you.
	They'll never believe you.
	That's why I couldn't believe it when I saw...
	All of these influencers, like DC Drano and Libs of TikTok and all the rest of the stuff, they're there and say, oh, look, I got all the information now.
	This is great.
	I'm special.
	I got invited to the White House to lie and propagandize you.
	And it's like, you know that they're not going to do anything.
	If they did anything, it would incriminate Trump and Melania.
	I mean, they would both be involved in this.
	So there's not going to be any Epstein files if they still exist anywhere.
	There's not going to be any information coming out of that.
	And all these people, he's just throwing out this stuff to them for what they want to hear.
	And then the whole thing is a show.
	So, a circus.
	And the question is, what's the purpose of the circus?
	Nibiru, 2029, Trump has one purpose as president now, collapse the nation and usher in the World Economic Forum agenda.
	I think so.
	So we're going to take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	grandfather.
	You remember, you remember.
	He's good, he's good.
	Modern Retro Radio, and he knows his music and his music history, that's for sure.
	Let's talk a little bit about what's going on with Nord Stream.
	This is an article from RT, U.S. and Secret Talks, to revive Nord Stream 2. They're quoting, that's RT, but they're quoting Das Bild, a German newspaper.
	Trump's special envoy is Rick Grinnell.
	This guy that he had in intelligence, so he's got a special secret mission for you.
	Better get smart.
	Multiple trips to Switzerland.
	Because he doesn't know if he's working for control or chaos.
	It's chaos and then control, right?
	Multiple trips to Switzerland to negotiate the restoration and the reactivation of the Nord Stream gas pipeline after Biden blew it up.
	Nord Stream 2, which was intended to complement the already operational Nord Stream 1, was completed in 2021 but never commissioned.
	In September 2022, the pipelines were targeted by a series of underwater explosions which caused severe leaks.
	Last year, the Wall Street Journal suggested that they had been sabotaged by Ukrainian team.
	Yeah, right.
	The same Wall Street Journal.
	They were the same people who were, you know, they ended their puff piece for Zelensky in support of Zelensky after that, you know, wrestling match at the White House.
	And I said, I had a quote from Zelensky, well, you don't have a say in terms of making me step down.
	That's the Ukrainian people.
	Oh, so that's why you stopped the elections and arrested your opposition.
	But Wall Street Journal just left it there.
	They didn't talk about him stopping the elections and arresting his opposition.
	What?
	Shameless.
	Provocatory as they are.
	Wall Street Journal.
	Anyway.
	So, yeah, as we all talked about, and as was shown, Ukraine doesn't have the capability to blow up that pipeline.
	And so it was the U.S. that did it.
	We had Seymour Hersh actually did, and I trust his journalist.
	He's a great investigative journalist.
	And he'll follow the truth and tell you the truth, regardless of where it leaves.
	And if it embarrasses or antagonizes or infuriates the CIA, so be it.
	He's not going to cover it for them.
	And so Seymour Hersh documented it very well.
	Logic tells you that it could not have been the Ukrainians.
	They don't have that kind of technology to do a deep-sea sabotage like that.
	So there was a pipeline coming from Russia.
	There was a second pipeline that was going to be coming into Germany.
	The German government, at the insistence of the American government, refused to open that pipeline that was filled with gas.
	And then the U.S. blew it up.
	And then the U.S. sold them a lot of liquid natural gas, right?
	And because the U.S. wanted to be the primary supplier to Germany.
	It's one of the things that Trump was complaining about.
	He says, you're too dependent on Russia.
	You're buying.
	And what he meant was, you need to buy your gas because that's really what runs the country.
	It's not being run on solar panels.
	Come on, let's get serious.
	All these people have to have real energy, which means fuel.
	And so what they were trying to do was to make sure that America was going to sell them the stuff instead of Russia.
	It's just that simple, really.
	It's like the fights over the pipelines in Syria.
	You know, America wants it to be its stuff and pipelines that it controls rather than the other side.
	That's a big part of what the war in Syria was always about.
	Slenty and I have talked about that for years.
	The Syrian war is about pipelines and getting in a government that is going to use your pipeline.
	So, during his first time in office, Trump was critical of the Nord Stream 2. He targeted it with sanctions, and he was lecturing the Germans.
	You shouldn't be buying your energy from Russia.
	Buy it from us.
	Then Biden blew it up, and they had to buy it from us, for the most part.
	Except, there's still some other pipelines.
	And the interesting thing here...
	And remember this.
	The Europeans spent more money buying Russian oil and gas than the amount of aid that they sent to Ukraine in 2024. You think they're serious about war?
	You think this is some kind of existential threat like 1939 or 1940?
	No, of course not.
	If it was, they wouldn't be buying the Russian energy.
	And they wouldn't be giving more money to Russia to buy their energy than they are giving weapons to Ukraine.
	They don't believe any of that stuff about an existential war that they're selling you.
	So don't believe it yourself.
	So, the deal would reportedly see American investors preventing Nord Stream 2 from bankruptcy by acquiring a stake in the company.
	You see, government is a protection racket.
	And it'd be a shame if you were to lose that pipeline again, you know.
	I think you should cut us in on it.
	This is part of the deal that they're making with Russia, of course.
	Hey, Russia, you want to sell that gas?
	Okay.
	That'll be part of the deal that we sweeten up.
	You know, we'll let you start selling gas into Europe, but, you know, so that we're not fighting each other.
	Let's go into partnership on this thing, right?
	Otherwise, we might blow up your pipelines again.
	It would be a shame if anything would happen to that nice new pipeline.
	So, again, this is going to be, you know, give us a cut, and we'll let you start doing this again, and we'll make that a part of the peace deal.
	You see, government has always been a protection racket, just like the mafia, and Trump understands that very well.
	You've got to cut the deal, we've got the cards here, we're going to cut the cards, and it is a protection racket.
	Cut us in on a piece of this, and we can do business there.
	I need to dip my beak in your pipeline.
	The deal would enable the U.S. to profit if it becomes operational following a potential ceasefire in Ukraine and lifting of Western sanctions.
	Additionally, it would give Washington significant influence over Germany's energy supply, the article stated, which is what they always wanted.
	Both Trump and Biden.
	Well, actually.
	Not them, but the people who control them, the people who put them in office, that's what they always wanted.
	That is also key.
	While the U.S. government would not directly be involved, American financial investors intend to participate in the potential gas deal.
	See, these are the Trump friends, the Trump cronies.
	This is the crony corruption, not crony capitalism, crony corruption.
	So Trump will set up some of his well-connected backers.
	Billionaires and other people.
	Everything is for sale in the Trump administration.
	American land is going to be for sale.
	Citizenship is for sale.
	Crypto.
	Meme coins are for sale.
	Everything is for sale.
	We're going to get a piece of this.
	They all want a piece of this action.
	And I tell you, they're there to collect.
	The second Trump administration, the first one was just a setup for him.
	He got to the fourth year and everything.
	Now he's there for the big payola.
	The German government has been involved in reported talks.
	Not been involved, rather, I should say.
	They don't know anything about it.
	Sources in Berlin claim they were unaware of Grinnell's meetings in Switzerland.
	How about that?
	He kept it secret.
	He kept it safe.
	U.S. is going to cease all offensive cyber operations against Russia as well.
	Another part of the peace deal that we're starting to see here.
	In order to get Putin to the negotiating table.
	So, you can rebuild your pipeline.
	We're going to stop the cyber operations and attacks against you.
	We can do a deal.
	You can help my friends here, who are my financial backers.
	You can help them make lots of money.
	And you can make lots of money too, Putin.
	You know, we can just run this stuff through.
	So, Hillary Clinton attacked Pete Hegseth, who announced that the cyber operations were going to stop.
	She said, wouldn't want to hurt Putin's feelings, she said.
	Trump's Defense Secretary Hegseth orders Cyber Command to stand down on all Russian operations.
	Well, Hegseth didn't take him too long to go back and put up that picture of Clinton smiling with the Russian Foreign Affairs Minister Sergei Lavrov, who's still the Russian Foreign Affairs Minister.
	That was back in March of 2019. Remember when they said, we're going to do this reset?
	And she was Secretary of State.
	And they had a button that was there.
	Well, he posted that picture.
	It's amazing to see the difference in Hillary Clinton.
	She's gone full lesbian now.
	Her hairstyle, see if you can pull up that picture.
	Her hairstyle, she's got it slicked down and short like a man and parted on the side like a man.
	Look at that.
	She's gone full lesbian.
	Always rumors about that.
	So, no.
	So when it comes to the Meemors, I guess Hegseth won that first round with Hillary Clinton, which is not too difficult.
	Not too difficult at all.
	Well, Elon Musk, as somebody pointed out yesterday, Elon Musk is calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme.
	And that was the top of drudge report.
	And of course, it really is.
	It really is a Ponzi scheme.
	It always was designed that way.
	I used to joke with Karen.
	I said, when we were in college, I said.
	I think that there will be UFOs before we get anything from Social Security.
	You know, they'll pull this UFO thing on us.
	Well, I was right about that, too.
	I never thought I would get any Social Security.
	Still haven't.
	But it's to be seen if we're going to get it or not.
	But it is a Ponzi scheme.
	In the sense that a Ponzi scheme, besides being fraudulent, the Ponzi scheme...
	It requires more people to keep coming in to sustain the thing.
	And that's what everybody means when they say it's a Ponzi scheme.
	That's nothing that is new or unique to Elon Musk.
	I mean, we've been calling it a Ponzi scheme all my life.
	Everybody who criticizes this welfare state, look, we'd be much better off with our own money instead of putting that, I'll never get my money back.
	I should live so long, as they would say, right?
	All the money that I put in is like, you know, what is it, 15%?
	You put in 7.5, your employer puts in another 7.5, it's like 15.62% or something.
	And you put all that money, that's off the top.
	You don't get any deductions off of that.
	Think about that.
	If you had all that money that you put, even if you made some bad investments, you'd have more.
	Plus, whatever was there, you'd be able to pass on to your heirs.
	That doesn't happen with Social Security.
	I don't like Social Security.
	But now you've got the Democrats, as they always do, when anybody talks about how bad the program is, the fact that it needs to be reformed, they always strike fear in the heart of everybody.
	Oh, they're going to stop paying you.
	They're not going to do that either.
	So, again, to talk about Social Security, this is a favorite piñata of both the left and the right.
	Nothing is really going to happen with any of this stuff.
	I think and always believe that the best thing that they could do...
	Would be to honor their commitments to the people who are elderly and who have paid into this stuff all of their life, at least honor those commitments, and also understand that Social Security has a massive welfare component to it.
	It's not just about retirement money, right?
	That's what everybody thinks about it being, but it's also there with a lot of welfare aspects as well.
	But I think the best thing they could do would be to honor their commitments to the elderly people and then say to people at a certain age, You can opt out if you wish.
	And, you know, if you want to just abandon that and say, well, from here on out, I'm not going to contribute 15.5% of everything that I make.
	So, you know, give people that option if they want to while it's still working.
	But the commitments need to be honored.
	And if people had the option to set up their own private retirement issues there.
	And see, the problem with all this, and one of the reasons he's talking about it probably as a Ponzi scheme, I did not watch the Musk-Rogan interview.
	I'm sorry, I can't bring myself to do that.
	But it's...
	You know, it is a Ponzi scheme in the sense that it needs more and more people to support the system.
	And the problem with it is that we have a declining population.
	And so there's not more and more kids that are coming in to support the older generations.
	That's the real issue with it.
	But I don't think that there's, I think for the people who have already paid into it, an extraordinary...
	Been compelled to pay into it?
	I remember when Ayn Rand was criticized because somebody said, you're going to take Social Security?
	Is this hardcore libertarian that she was?
	She said, of course.
	Well, you're a hypocrite.
	No, I was forced to pay money into all that stuff.
	Honor your commitments that you said you were going to do in it.
	And I think that's the real issue.
	But this person on Gizmodo.
	Yes, people who are working now pay for Social Security that the retirees are enjoying.
	And that's not a Ponzi scheme.
	It's how most social programs work.
	Because the social programs are Ponzi schemes.
	They're all Ponzi schemes.
	That's the way they all work.
	He also claimed that there were 20 million people marked as alive in the Social Security database.
	They were actually dead.
	They didn't present any evidence and so forth.
	And we've talked about this as well.
	We've talked about all these people who are hundreds of years old.
	And part of that is just...
	You know, careless record keeping.
	They were saying, well, we're going to show you that they're not actually getting checks.
	These are people that they didn't have a birth date for them or something like that when all this stuff was kicking off.
	So they just go with some default things that are in there.
	You know, there was a Citibank along those lines.
	Citibank just had...
	I forget the exact amount.
	I don't have the article here.
	But it was something like, you know, it was trillions of dollars that they transferred to somebody.
	And it's like, what?
	And they just had this situation a few years ago where they did massive transfers, something like millions of dollars.
	But this was trillions with a T. They said, how in the world can this happen?
	And they said, well, the problem was is that the data field there defaulted with like, you know, 12 zeros or whatever it is.
	Okay, nine, no, 12, yeah.
	12 zeros in that data field.
	And the person who's filling it out didn't catch it.
	And then it was supposed to be another person who was supposed to check it out and didn't check it.
	And then even a manager did not check it.
	I guess until they got to the end of the night, they're trying to reconcile the register, you know?
	That's what we all used to do in the retail stores.
	It's like, I've got a problem here.
	I'm trying to reconcile the register, and I'm like, $9 trillion off.
	I don't know what's going on here.
	But that's kind of what happened with Social Security.
	You know, they had these default fields, and they didn't put anything in it, and at various times, it came up with a date that was really, really ancient.
	Anyway, Rogan said, it was an interesting narrative that Musk should not be allowed access to the most highly sensitive data at the Social Security office.
	I mean, he should have access to everything, right?
	Musk insisted that every member of Doge who had been given access had gone through the proper channels and had been vetted properly.
	Again, like everything that Musk says, there's no evidence presented to prove that the people at Doge had been vetted properly.
	We're going to be talking to Catherine Austin Fitz later in the program.
	And it's one of the things I want to talk to her about.
	She is very, very concerned.
	And she is somebody who has always blown the whistle and focused on fraud.
	She was the deputy.
	I'll have to go back and look at her resume and I'll introduce her.
	But she was like the deputy secretary at HUD or something.
	And she has been a whistleblower about pension fund fraud and trillions of dollars that were missing and so forth.
	So she's very concerned about fraud, but she's also very concerned about what DOGE is doing.
	So the DOGE actions threaten an interruption of benefits.
	Says the ex-agency head.
	And this is the Democrats pulling back, trying to scare everybody again about Social Security.
	And I would take all that with a grain of salt.
	Recent actions at the U.S. Social Security Administration by Musk so-called Doge are putting monthly benefit checks for more than 72.5 million Americans at risk, says the former commissioner, former Maryland governor, Martin O'Malley, said this on CNBC, said ultimately you're going to see the system collapse.
	And an interruption of benefits, I believe you will see that within the next 30 to 90 days.
	Absolutely not.
	You've got 72.5 million Americans that are getting money from Social Security.
	Do you realize that the politicians would be more afraid than even of Trump?
	They'd be more afraid of those 72.5 million angry people.
	They'd be more concerned about offending them than they would even Trump.
	Everybody is very concerned about not offending Trump, but they would not allow that to happen.
	Democrat Congressman John Larson from Connecticut said the moves are a backdoor benefit cut.
	He said, let me be clear, laying off all of the workforce at Social Security Administration and shuttering field offices will mean delay, disruption, and denial of benefits, he said.
	I think there will be delay and disruption.
	People who are signing up for things.
	I would think that that would happen if they have a shortage.
	And it's not going to be the type of thing that the former head said.
	Social Security Administration said it does not set any reduction targets in response to reports that it plans to cut 50% of its employees.
	So that's the rumor that's out there.
	They're going to cut half of the employees, and Social Security Administration is denying that.
	Along with denying the fact that they're paying millions of people who are hundreds of years old.
	So a lot of this stuff is theater and circus.
	We're going to take a quick break.
	When we come back, we're going to take a look at the theater and the circus revolving around RFKJ. So stay with us.
	we will be right back.
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	In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	All right, welcome back.
	Let's talk about some of the comments here.
	Brian Taylor, the most disgusting thing about the Epstein files was that they came out all happy and smiling.
	You would think that they would be more depressed, angry, considering the files were supposed to contain info.
	They didn't know what any of that stuff was, whether they had anything in there or not.
	Pam Bondi didn't know that there was anything.
	I mean, she pretended that she had seen them.
	She went on the night before with, I think it was Jesse Waters or something, some stooge at Fox News, and said, this is going to make you sick, what is in these files.
	And it wasn't anything in the files.
	She had not even looked at them, and she's hyping it, saying it's going to make you sick.
	Well, if there really was anything about Jeffrey Epstein, yes, you would be sick.
	But she hadn't looked at them to know that they were basically empty.
	And, of course, these people, these influencers, telling you the Trump administration, the most transparent organization out there.
	I said, yeah, you can see right through him to the people who are pulling us strings behind him.
	Guard Goldsmith.
	Good to see you, Guard.
	Liberty Conspiracy on Rockfin and on X. He says, selling something that allows a man to save money is not an attack.
	Ordering a man a...
	Offering men a tool to lift his burden and allow him to get more for his toil is not evil.
	But tariff proponents love to punish trade.
	Well, you know, all of taxes are a punishment.
	I'd be really happy to get rid of all the taxes.
	And, you know, the thing that we've got to do is get rid of government.
	And no matter how you try to change this evil of taxation, it is still evil.
	And so it needs to be minimized at the very least.
	The problem is, you know, when everybody has talked about different forms of taxation, we used to always say, yeah, but you know what they're going to do?
	They're going to wind up with the income tax plus this new thing until Trump came along.
	But with Trump, the plan is for you to trust him.
	And so I know that even though Trump is going to put on this massive new tax on us, that he's going to get rid of the income tax.
	No, he's not.
	He's not.
	I mean, even as he's talking about it, he's talking about how he's going to make the tax cuts permanent.
	Well, that means that the tax is going to be permanent.
	It's just insane that these people can't figure this stuff out.
	By the way, that reminds me.
	I kept this.
	This was a gift that was sent to us.
	And he says this is from IRS Machine Gun.
	Your only friend at the IRS. How does he know that?
	I hope that's not true.
	I hope I have some other friends there, but it probably is true.
	But he sent me this great picture of Jimmy Stewart from Shenandoah.
	I'm sure that's what it's from.
	I recognize that.
	And it's a costume that he wore.
	And so he said, I was going to get you a frame, but maybe Karen will be better at picking one out for the desk.
	But I really like this.
	My only friend at the IRS. I really like that.
	But we will get that framed.
	And thank you.
	So I do have somebody who likes me at the IRS. So anyway, we'll have to see what happens.
	I don't guess I've got any friends at the external revenue service.
	They're going to be stealing money from me too.
	Karen Carpenter says, I hope...
	David asked Catherine about her take on RFK Jr. She knows him fairly well.
	I will.
	Yeah, I will.
	I think it is interesting.
	Audi, Modern Retro Radio.
	Thank you very much for that tip.
	I appreciate that.
	It's very kind.
	ModernRetroRadio.com.
	He says, Good morning, David Knight family.
	Thanks for being consistent in your values, commentaries, and reporting.
	A rare find these days.
	Well, thank you, Audi.
	I appreciate that.
	Trucker Chris for the win.
	That'd be the key, DK, they need to prevent German industry from linking up with Russian resources.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Well, let's talk a little bit about RFK Jr. He's next on the agenda here.
	He wrote, oh, we got one more comment here, a tip from DG8. Thank you.
	He says, David, one of Grinnell's main objectives under the first Trump administration was to promote the LGBT agenda.
	Yeah, he was their liaison to the LGBT people.
	He was always there with all the rainbow stuff and everything else.
	And he was the big spokesperson for that.
	That was his secret mission.
	Kept it secret for the most part from the conservatives.
	Some of us talked about it, but, you know, Breitbart, World Net Daily, they're not going to talk about it.
	But the Trump cult denies it and they turn a blind eye to it.
	They love Rick Grinnell.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	And this other guy, Presley.
	Presley has got the long hair.
	He's a real pal of Charlie Kirk and everything, promoting the LGBT agenda.
	Well, now RFK Jr. is promoting the pharmaceutical vaccine agenda, as many people figured that he would.
	He's always back and forth.
	Well, you know, I'm a big proponent of vaccines.
	I got myself and all my kids are vaccinated and all the rest of the stuff.
	Well, he talks about autism and talks about, I just want to make vaccines safe and effective.
	And so, because he says he wants to make them safe and effective, those of us who know anything about vaccines say, well, that means that's just code word for eliminating them, but that's not the case.
	And so there's been this tension as to which side RFK Jr. is going to really come down on.
	But as I said before, When he got confirmed, he said, my mission here is to reestablish trust in the institutions.
	Same thing Tulsi Gabbard said about these criminal, satanic intelligence organizations.
	My job here, Tulsi Gabbard said, is to restore trust in these institutions.
	These are institutions that should never be trusted.
	These are institutions that you cannot find in the Constitution.
	And so by their very nature, they are untrustworthy.
	But we have seen what they have done over and over again.
	And so it turns out that RFK Jr. apparently is also there to restore trust in the MMR vaccine.
	Because how convenient it was, and even the Children's Health Defense, the organization that he started now stepped away from, even they said, isn't it interesting that as soon as RFK Jr., who has expressed skepticism, who believes that the MMR vaccines are responsible, along with many of the others, For this, you know, you've got to get 72 of them shot into you by the time you're a young child.
	In the U.S., nobody else does that.
	We're the suckers for Big Pharma because they own the politicians and they own the press here, unlike in any other country.
	And so Americans just get stuck over and over again.
	And you look at that vaccine schedule, 72 vaccines, that's not 72 different assumed viruses that they're trying to stop.
	No, they're doing it three or four times for each thing.
	That was something I didn't realize until just recently.
	I thought, well, what's this thing about these COVID boosters?
	Does it work or not?
	And you look at their vaccine schedule, they're doing three or four shots for all this stuff for the kids.
	And so all of his concerns about autism and everything, just out the window.
	Children's Health Defense said, is this a coincidence?
	Do they claim to have a measles epidemic?
	And of course, look, as I said before, you've got 32 million people in Texas alone.
	Do you have?
	I don't know if they've got 154 people that are sick with measles.
	Let's say that they've got 154 people that are sick, and they're sick with measles, not with something else that they identified as measles, which I think is probably the case.
	But if you had 154 people out of 32 million, that's nonsense.
	That's not a pandemic.
	It's not even an epidemic.
	A pandemic is an epidemic all over the place.
	By their definitions, that's not what it is.
	This is an op-ed piece that he wrote, and he put it up on Fox News.
	Now, you spell that P-H-O-X for their pharmaceutical sponsors.
	And they also ran reports to...
	So he puts up the op-ed piece on Fox News, and Fox News grabs Dr. Mark Siegel.
	This is the guy who, and I remember when it happened in 2020, and I had a lot to say on the program, and even when I was working at InfoWars and Alex Jones was telling everybody, take the Trump shot, it's great.
	This Mark Siegel character goes to the Trump White House, and they stand six feet apart so they don't have to wear the masks and be clowned themselves, right?
	And tell everybody, oh, we're following the six-foot rule.
	Yeah, right.
	Did you step on any cracks?
	You know, you'll break your mother's back, that type of thing.
	Did you knock on wood?
	Did you walk under any ladders?
	Or did you walk around them?
	All these different superstitions, right?
	So we're six feet apart.
	So now we don't have to wear the mask.
	And so he's interrogating Trump.
	Are you going to take the vaccine or not?
	Are you going to take it right away or not?
	And Trump said, oh, I'm going to take the vaccine.
	I don't know.
	If I take it right away, everybody will say I'm jumping in line ahead of everybody else.
	But if I don't take it, they'll say that I'm afraid of it.
	So yeah, I'll take it.
	I don't know.
	We'll see what happens with it.
	And Mark Siegel is doing all this stuff.
	On the Tucker Carlson program, because Tucker Carlson wouldn't say anything about the vaccine.
	When somebody would bring it up, he would do an eye roll, you know, or he might just say, well, I'm not getting it.
	And that was it.
	He wouldn't tell anybody the truth about the history of vaccines.
	He wouldn't tell people how ridiculous this was that we're looking at a genetic code injection.
	And that's what I always called it, a genetic code injection.
	That's exactly what it is.
	I think this is perfectly encapsulated in this picture here that I got some AI to do for me.
	I'm very proud of this.
	This is a hypodermic needle that transitions into DNA on the other side of it.
	And I really like that.
	You're going to see that more and more as I talk about the genetic code injection.
	I always said that from the very beginning.
	But he wouldn't talk about that.
	He wouldn't talk about the fact that they're going to rush out this brand new approach without any testing.
	He'd just say, well, I'm not going to take it, if he'd say anything.
	Most of the time, Tucker would just do an eye roll.
	And he was the one that they put that segment on.
	They hadn't put that out there.
	And it was Mark Siegel.
	So, this is RFKJ. Which we now know stands for JAB, not Junior.
	He said, as the Secretary of the U.S. Department of HHS, I am deeply concerned about the recent measles outbreak.
	The situation has escalated rapidly.
	146 confirmed cases out of 32 million people.
	Tragically, he says, is it tragedy?
	I wonder how many people have gotten sick from various other things.
	In Texas, out of the 32 million people, why would you focus so heavily on 146 people that you claim have measles?
	Tragically, this outbreak has claimed the life of a school-aged child.
	Prove it.
	Prove it.
	Now, I would say, so what?
	But it is a tragedy when any child dies.
	But prove that it was a vaccine.
	Prove that, you know, there wasn't other issues with this child.
	We don't know anything about this child.
	We don't know if this child had comorbidities.
	It was dying of something else, and they labeled it measles.
	We don't know if this child was given a measles shot after the child was sick.
	Because the measles shot plays all kinds of havoc.
	The MMR shot plays all kinds of havoc on your immune system.
	And so the manufacturer says, don't give the shot to someone who is sick.
	So we don't know about that.
	We don't know what kind of treatments this kid was inflicted with at the hospital.
	We don't know any of that.
	So it's a tragedy that a child dies, but it's also a tragedy that they lie to us like this, isn't it, for their agenda.
	No questions, no details from RFKJab.
	Measles says RFKJab is a highly contagious respiratory illness with certain health risks.
	Especially to unvaccinated individuals.
	Now he's a vaccine cheerleader.
	He hasn't done anything to make the vaccines safe or effective that he said he was going to do.
	He's just now cheering them.
	You know, when you look at this, people who sell out like RFK jab will always tell themselves, you know, I can do good if I can just be in that position.
	And to be in that position, if I need to lie to people, Or even harm people.
	Down the line, I'll be able to do something that's good, that'll atone for that, and it'll be more important.
	That's the lie they always tell themselves.
	And guess what?
	The next time they betray us, it gets even easier.
	Every time they do that to themselves, it gets easier.
	I'm going to do evil so the good may come.
	So now he's telling us, especially it hits unvaccinated individuals, certain health risks.
	The virus spreads through direct contact with infectious droplets when an infected person breathes, coughs, or sneezes.
	And so, symptoms include fever, cough, runny nose, red, watery eyes, followed by characteristic body rash.
	Now, the body rash is the only thing there that is unique.
	I mean, how many different illnesses cause red, watery eyes, fever, cough, and runny nose?
	So it's the rash that is there.
	But again, most of us had that when we were young.
	Everybody my age and older had it.
	Most cases are mild, he says, but rare complications can be severe, including pneumonia, blindness, and encephalitis, which I had never heard of.
	Nobody in 20th century America had ever heard of that stuff.
	This is RFK jab hyping the measles fear so that he can hype the MMR jab.
	A total betrayal.
	Didn't take too long, did it?
	How far are we into this Trump administration?
	Let's see.
	Five, six weeks?
	Total betrayal.
	And he hasn't been HHS for that long.
	I don't know how long he...
	He's probably been confirmed for less than a month.
	And just a couple of weeks.
	And he's already betrayed all of his principles about the vaccine.
	So he goes on to say, RFK Jab says, involved individuals who had not received the measles, mumps, and rubella MMR vaccine.
	So now he, first he sells the fear of measles, now he sells the MMR as a panacea.
	Shame on him.
	Shame on him.
	In response to this outbreak, I have directed the CDC and the Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response, I've never heard of this, ASPR, to work closely with Texas health authorities.
	Where's your justification for this in the Constitution?
	RFK jab.
	The feds don't have any jurisdiction here.
	Oh, we're going to advise them.
	We're going to give them money.
	That's what they will do.
	He said the CDC... is in continuous communications with Texas health officials, ensuring a coordinated, effective response to contain the outbreak.
	And I have spoken with Governor Greg Abbott and Texas public health officials.
	Oh, I bet you have.
	He says parents play a pivotal role in safeguarding their children's health.
	All parents should consult with their health care providers to understand their options to get the MMR vaccine, says RFKJab.
	Sellout.
	Sellout.
	He said vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but they also contribute to my pocketbook and power.
	I don't know.
	He says to continue to community immunity.
	Now he's selling the lie of herd immunity, right?
	You can have, according to their virus paradigm, you can have herd immunity without vaccines.
	As a matter of fact, but these people redefined everything.
	You can only get herd immunity with a vaccine.
	You know that now, don't you?
	Their idea is that the vaccine is going to train your immune system.
	Would you rather be trained with the real thing and survive?
	It's like going to war.
	Who's the better fighter pilot in a dogfight?
	Somebody that's played a flight simulator or somebody who's actually survived an actual dogfight?
	Well, they didn't even have flight simulators back in the day.
	They would just throw these guys up, and they would try to get them to talk to the other people about how they survived.
	But if you survived that, you were likely to continue to survive it.
	Most of the time, people would succumb in the first battle.
	But no, these people tell you that you want the simulation, you don't want the real thing, because the simulation is going to give you something that you can't get.
	By winning the real thing.
	And of course, that's their virus paradigm.
	And it doesn't make any sense.
	Their own paradigm falls apart when you look at the inconsistencies.
	And then when you understand that they haven't isolated anything, that they haven't done any science, they haven't taken somebody who's sick and somebody who's not sick, take the sick person over, and they can find evidence of a concentration of something that is there with that sick person that is not there with the healthy person.
	They don't do that.
	They don't do science.
	And so until you do the science, I'm not buying your virus hypothesis.
	So, but he says vaccines not only protect individual children, But they also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons.
	Your vaccine doesn't protect you.
	It protects other people.
	Your mask doesn't protect you.
	It protects other people.
	Your seatbelt doesn't protect you.
	It protects other people.
	Your motorcycle helmet doesn't protect you.
	It protects other people.
	He says tens of thousands died with or of measles annually in 19th century America.
	By 1960, he says, before the vaccine's introduction, improvements in sanitation and nutrition had eliminated 95% of the cases.
	Well, that's not true, evidently, because when you look at this newspaper clipping that was sent to me by listeners, this is 1962. And what they're saying in this particular...
	Clipping here.
	This is from Minneapolis Tribune, 1962. And what they were saying was, Minneapolis is on its way into a measles year, with 2,325 cases reported by last week, just in one town, Minneapolis, compared to 755, same period last year.
	Dr. Carl Mundberg, Chief Health Officer for the city, said that.
	Children's diseases, particularly red measles, Seem to come in cycles of two or three years, said Lumberg.
	The cycle pattern occurs because the disease is so highly contagious.
	He said everybody gets measles during the epidemic so they become immune.
	And then it dies down again, he said.
	And so what he suggested parents do, he said the big problem is you need to ease the child's boredom.
	So, get some games.
	You know, get some quizzes.
	Get one of the magic screens.
	Remember that?
	You can twirl the dials and you can draw on this thing.
	It had X and Y knobs on it.
	Or a ballerina dress-up kit.
	That's what he was suggesting.
	And he did warn them.
	He said, you know, you can get old magazines, but make sure that you're going to let them cut and paste stuff, that you get some blunt scissors.
	So, he was worried.
	That the biggest side effect of the measles would be that you might injure yourself with scissors.
	You know, don't run with them.
	And be careful.
	Get some blunt ones when you're doing the cutting.
	That's the way it was always dismissed when I grew up.
	It was not a major health threat.
	And you know, we didn't have autism either.
	Because we didn't have the MMR vaccine.
	And now, the power and the money.
	He has shown what RFK Jr. really is.
	What he really is.
	He's really shown his true self.
	Hasn't he?
	So he goes on with this.
	He tries to redeem himself by saying, you know, it was sanitation that got rid of it and not the vaccine.
	But you need to get that vaccine.
	First he does that.
	He kowtows to the people who gave him the power and can take that away from him.
	And then he tries to redeem himself towards the end of it.
	He said, good nutrition remains the best defense against chronic and infectious illnesses.
	Vitamins A, C, and D and foods rich in vitamins B12, C, and E should be a part of a balanced diet.
	And so when he throws that in there, he gets hammered for putting that in there.
	Don't you dare talk about healthy food.
	You need to be injecting people.
	With aluminum and formaldehyde and all the rest of this garbage and junk DNA and genetic modification stuff.
	Stop talking to them about healthy food.
	The measles outbreak in Texas, he says, is a call to action for all of us to reaffirm our commitment to public health.
	It is a call for action for all of us to reaffirm our convictions and our commitments to opposing vaccines everywhere.
	Boy, I tell you, it is just amazing to see this.
	So, for more information about measles, please visit the CDC that sells most of the MMR vaccines, which used to talk about it.
	Now he promotes the CDC. Now he promotes MMR. And Time.
	Time Magazine says, well, he has a troubling emphasis on vitamin A and diet.
	He should be emphasizing vaccines.
	Come on, you know?
	That's what's going to make us all healthy.
	Vaccines.
	He now supports measles vaccine as a Texas outbreak bills, says Breitbart.
	Breitbart always pushed the Trump shot.
	As a matter of fact, John Nolte really beclowned himself, lost all credibility.
	Former editor, he now does entertainment stuff.
	I guess he's kind of semi-retired.
	And everybody, I would read the comments that said, shut up, you don't know anything about this.
	Quit pushing this stuff.
	But Breitbart always has, because Breitbart has always pushed the pandemic.
	Breitbart has always pushed the genetic code injection.
	And Breitbart has always pushed the GOP. And Israel, of course, as well.
	They got their hobby horses.
	And they will not tell you the truth about any of those issues.
	RFK Jr. loses a top staffer over the disagreement on measles response.
	You know, just to show you how out of step I am with these people.
	I saw this headline and I thought, only one person quit when he betrayed his principles and his supposed life work, you know, with that stuff?
	What he was telling everybody for all these years and he just, you know, throws it off and only one person quit?
	No, no, no, no.
	How wrong I was.
	Nobody quit because he was pushing the MMR stuff.
	This person quit because he wasn't pushing it hard enough.
	Wow.
	And this person who quit, It was not some hangover from the Biden administration.
	He was a hangover from the first Trump administration.
	Thomas Corey, who had served in Trump's first administration, had returned to government last week as Kennedy's top spokesman.
	But he issued a terse statement Monday on his LinkedIn page announcing that he was quitting immediately, reported Politico.
	If he'd only waited just a little bit longer.
	He could have seen how RFK Jr. kowtowed to the vaccine industry that he is supposed to regulate.
	How he kowtowed to the vaccine industry that has always had this revolving door that has harmed Americans so much.
	Now, he quit because RFK Jr. didn't push the jab enough and soon enough.
	Corey resigned after clashing with RFK jab and his close aides over their management of HHS amid the growing measles outbreak.
	150 people, if that's even true, out of 32 million is nothing.
	But of course, Trump's former HHS head, Alex Azar, CEO of Eli Lilly, before he came in, he declared a pandemic in America when they only claimed six people out of 330 million.
	There were even cases.
	Nobody had died.
	Nobody was really sick.
	Corey had served during Trump's first term as Senior Advisor and Communications Director at the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
	So, he would have been involved in Trump's paying hospitals to kill people.
	One of the most reprehensible aspects of this.
	I mean, the two things about Trump.
	Well, three things.
	Well, I could come up with more.
	But, you know, with the lockdown and how you did that to everybody and the consequences of that, social as well as financial and everything.
	But then the murder that they paid the hospitals to do.
	You point at somebody and say they've got...
	COVID. You don't even have a test.
	We don't have enough tests.
	They don't work anyway.
	You point at somebody, you make a clinical diagnosis that they've got COVID, and I will give you $13,000.
	And then if you put them on a ventilator, then we got Peter Navarro doing a masterful job of manufacturing these ventilators, which will kill nearly 90% of the people.
	If you get them on a ventilator, I'll give you $39,000.
	The ventilator only costs $50,000.
	Now they got $52,000.
	In addition to that, wait, there's more.
	Got a deal for you.
	This is better than the gold card for foreign citizens, foreign billionaires, right?
	There's more.
	I'll give you a 20% bonus for everything that you do with them.
	That's why Handy said, you know, bring in some guy who's really well into a major heart attack.
	First thing they do for him is to send him in, give him a COVID test, because now everything that they do, they get a 20% bonus on.
	They were killing people.
	And this guy, Corey, It was with the very organization, CMS, that the Trump administration was using to bribe the hospitals to kill people.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	But you talk to these MAGA people.
	Trump didn't do it.
	It was the bad governors that did it.
	Yeah, right.
	He knows very well.
	These are the people, again, you know, they're the people who are caught up in these partisan sports paradigms, you know, cheering, booing Canada and all the rest of this stuff.
	They haven't a clue what's going on.
	And Trump knows he cuts the funding to things that he doesn't like.
	He doesn't like Zelensky.
	He's going to cut his funding.
	He doesn't like and says his policy is against putting the trainees and the girls' showers in dressing rooms.
	Well, he cuts their funding if they do it.
	Obama will cut your funding if you don't do that.
	And Trump was saying that.
	He said, I'll cut their funding if they do this.
	So he says it all the time.
	He didn't cut the funding of any of the bad Democrat governors, did he?
	No, he didn't.
	He kept the money flowing.
	So, Dr. Jane Ruby, as a reminder, she said these two measles vaccines contain cells from lung tissue of a 14-week-old aborted male baby and lung tissue from a 12-week-old aborted female baby.
	And here's a video of what a 15-week-old baby looks like.
	Yeah, it's not a clump of cells, is it?
	That's the abortion.
	That's the abortion, the babies that they aborted and then used their body parts to create the measles vaccines.
	So, RFK Jr., RFKJab says, Measles outbreak is a call to action for all of us.
	And PHOX News hosted this along with Mark Siegel.
	Just amazing to me that these people are still running this stuff.
	These vax mongers.
	You know, we've got warmongers, people who sell war.
	We've got whoremongers, people who sell sex.
	We've got vax mongers, people who sell vaccines.
	Mass murder and poison.
	Cody's Law.
	This is Florida lawmakers trying to set up the first state law to compensate vaccine injury victims.
	A bill named after Cody Hudson, a previously healthy college student injured in 2021 by the Pfizer vaccine, would expedite this review and the payment process for vaccine injury claims under Florida's Medicare, Medicaid, and Medicaid Medically Needy program.
	Isn't that interesting?
	It was Medicare and Medicaid people at the federal government that were paying the hospitals to injure people.
	And now you've got the state Medicare and Medicaid is going to be building up, you know, hiring more people, I guess, to help the ones who've been injured with all this stuff.
	So they're going to expedite the review on the payment process for vaccine injury claims, I said, that passes.
	I call it Cody's Law.
	Subtitle, Florida...
	No vaccine injured patient left behind.
	Echoing George W. Bush.
	When he started that no child left behind stuff, I said, yeah, it's really more like no child left alone.
	It's really what he's coming after.
	But no, this is something that needs to be done.
	It'd be the first such law in the U.S. and it could supplant federal vaccine injury compensation programs.
	You know, the 1986 law that Fauci put in.
	That Ronald Reagan signed.
	That kicked all the stuff off.
	Cody's mother advocated for and drafted the legislation.
	She said the law would fill the gaps of all the vaccine injury compensation programs and of Social Security disability.
	That's what we're talking about.
	Social Security, not just retirement.
	So, unlike the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, the 1986 law that prevented you from getting compensation.
	Isn't that nice how they always do that?
	You know, they call it the National Compensation Program, which is defined to not give you compensation.
	It's always exactly the opposite of what they say it is.
	You know, you don't even need to read the bill.
	You can just look at the title and you can say, it's not that, you know, whenever it comes out of the federal government.
	Hopefully, this is not an inversion of what it is, this bill at the state level.
	So in the few cases where it does make awards, it pays only for unreimbursed medical expenses and only up to $50,000 per year for lost wages.
	Joseph Sansone, PhD, author of Ban the Jab, a book offered a resolution that was adopted by 10 Florida counties.
	And Cody's Law would be a pioneering state-level initiative.
	So we've now got 10 counties that have banned the jab.
	Good for them.
	Good for them.
	Because they're pushing it out through these county public health things.
	Cody was severely injured.
	He was given three days to live.
	He was left permanently and terminally injured by the COVID shots.
	It's amazing to think what one shot can do to you.
	What one antibiotic pill can do to you.
	The mission in my family...
	It's to try to impose such an understanding, not even a fear.
	You don't need to have fear.
	You need to have understanding of what this poison has become from the pharmaceutical companies.
	They have perfected it.
	They have concentrated it so that they can kill you and or destroy your life with one shot, with one pill.
	They keep making these antibiotics and these vaccines more and more dangerous, going down to the cellular level, going down to the genetic level with the vaccines, with all this mRNA stuff.
	Folks, you can die from an infection, but there's natural remedies for infections.
	And so we need to educate ourselves about the natural remedies that are out there.
	Stay away from this temptation and this fear that they put in people whenever you're sick to turn to pharmaceutical stuff.
	You're literally playing Russian roulette, and you really don't know what it's going to do to you.
	And along those lines, I would say, please continue to pray for Whistler.
	He has gotten to the point where he has good days, and when he first got, he couldn't even get out of bed for weeks.
	He couldn't use...
	A keyboard or a mouse for weeks.
	He can now get up and he can do those things, but if he does the show, and he's not doing the show today, if he does the show, he can't sit up for very long because it starts hurting his hips.
	If he walks much, it starts hurting his ankles and things like that.
	So please pray that he would have complete healing.
	That God would take this away and restore his body to where it was.
	And I pray that you would take this to heart.
	What has happened to us?
	What has happened to other people?
	Please don't use this poison.
	I don't care what slime bags like RFK Jr. and Powell of Epstein and stuff.
	I mean, you look at these people.
	They haven't changed.
	That's who they are.
	That's who they are.
	These people will say and do anything.
	I mean, you look at his background, what he's done with his wives, his little black book, and all the rest of the stuff.
	You tell me that he's not an Epstein crony, just like Donald Trump and Melania?
	She worked for him.
	She was one of his prostitutes, Melania Trump.
	She's out there saying, oh, I'm going to take the lead on revenge porn.
	We're going to stop that kind of stuff.
	Okay, so...
	No revenge porn, but porn for profit, because that's where she came up.
	And she's proud of that.
	She's just touting that in her biography.
	You know, it's just these people.
	Anyway, we're going to take a break, and we'll be right back.
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	We're All Dead said Social Security won't be able to honor its commitments as is by 2028, so it needs to be a lot less people or a lot more people jump in.
	Well, I think that had to do with, I think that was a factor with what they did to us with COVID. I really do.
	They focused on older people, but the jabs kill younger people as well as older people.
	But they really wanted to go first for the older people.
	And now we have this new phenomenon of young children having heart attacks when they play sports.
	Never saw that in my life either.
	Never saw people dying from measles, and I never saw kids dying from heart attacks.
	Thank you, Big Pharma.
	Thank you, RFK Jr., for joining with them.
	Traitor.
	I'm Marty says, my brother died at 49. Some illegal is gloaming his Social Security moolah.
	I guess, you know, I mean, it's like the voting in North Carolina.
	Vote early, vote often.
	They had the longest period of time.
	They did not require any photo IDs.
	And as I've said before, in 2012, my brother-in-law knew someone who said, I just want to vote.
	And they said, I'd already voted.
	You know, all they would give them a name and an address is all he needed to vote.
	And they said, I'd already voted.
	And they said, and this other person at your address voted as well.
	I said, that's my mother.
	She died years ago.
	But it doesn't happen.
	Especially not in Democrat-run places like North Carolina was at the time.
	Obermensch, thank you very much for the tip.
	He says, great job in tying in history with the stories.
	Keep it up.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	I hope Catherine Austin Fitz talks about the danger of using biometrics for your personal financial records.
	The vaccines are related to this.
	Yes, she does, and we'll talk more about that today.
	She's very big on personal financial privacy.
	You have to have private financial transactions, and that is very, very important to her and to all of us, but she focuses on that as well.
	Stealth Patriot, thank you for the tip.
	He says, what actions are we going to take now that Moderna's mRNA vaccine has been approved for chickens and is about to be approved for cattle?
	I'm in Tennessee like you.
	Do our laws prevent it from being sold in Tennessee?
	No, they don't, as far as I'm aware.
	You had a physician who is also a legislator a year or two ago, and when I was talking to Senator Nicely, he was involved in helping that go through.
	And that was blocking them from putting vaccines.
	They were bragging about how they're going to put mRNA and lettuce and other things like that and actually feed it to us.
	And so everybody was ridiculing him and saying, you're just a conspiracy theorist.
	He goes, no, here's the article where they're reporting it at mainstream media and they're interviewing the scientists who are doing it and it's a plan.
	They haven't done it yet.
	We should stop it before they do it.
	But there was nothing at that time about injecting animals.
	And I think that's the key part of this.
	I think that's why they focused on the chickens and eggs and stuff.
	You know, which comes first, the chicken or the egg, if you want the vaccine to get out there to everybody.
	And if you want to be able to vaccinate all animals, all livestock, and do it for multiple conditions and do it multiple times a year, well, I guess what comes first is the chicken and the egg, right?
	So, yeah, I don't think that there's anything that stops them from vaccinating livestock right now.
	Find somebody that is organic, and then you'll know that that is going to be the case.
	But it's going to be up to us to do that.
	L.T. Oracle of Truth says, I predict RFK Jr.'s next job will be CEO at Merck or Pfizer.
	It has been a revolving door, hasn't it?
	Certainly worked out well for Trump's previous HHS people.
	One of them went to Moderna.
	The other one went to Pfizer.
	It was, you know, he had two HHS heads, and they both got nice, cushy jobs.
	Well, I want to read this to you from a listener, and this is from someone who is a nurse.
	She said, I wrote during COVID, as a Wyoming nurse, I've always listened, recently have listened, and donated as Auntie Opal.
	So, thank you very much.
	I appreciate that.
	I was just listening to Thursday's show, and I wanted to chime in about the flu vaccines.
	Back in the 90s, I got my degree in microbiology, and one of the things that I never forgot is the head of the department professor's explanation of the process of how they predict the yearly flu infection for vaccination.
	This was one of the clues.
	First, there's the making sure that you can't sue them for what they do.
	That's the big flag right there.
	And then this other stuff is the flu vaccine, where they are meeting, and it was news because The meeting got canceled this year where they were going to get together and hold a seance or something and ask the spirits what the next vaccine was going to be.
	I said, we should do one of these things.
	Vax to the future.
	And we're laughing about that.
	So, Doc, what are you working on?
	Oh, Marty, this is really big.
	I'm going to figure out what the vaccine is going to be like next year.
	And in the future.
	So she explained, the professor's explanation was, that the flu season happens earlier in China.
	So they sample the duck ponds in China, where many people have toilets over duck ponds, and they pick the three most prevalent strains of flu and develop the yearly vaccine against these three strains.
	Well, I guess it beats killing the ducks and reading their entrails.
	Or maybe not.
	I don't know.
	I've tried to verify this.
	It's not easy to chase it down.
	The CDC does have a vague reference to this process.
	I'm not surprised because it does sound preposterous.
	It sounds posterior, actually.
	I have decided over the years that it's just junk science, however they predict it.
	The record of effectiveness is so dismal, I'm including a chat from the CDC website that shows their record of how effective the vaccine has been over the years.
	And of course, it has been effective at harming people.
	Prior to the Trump shot, it was the biggest injurer of people by far and away.
	Even more dangerous than the MMR. The numbers are terrible.
	Even in the best years, the effectiveness is very low.
	And hilariously, in 2021, there is no data.
	They didn't bother to collect it.
	Nothing to see.
	Because they were labeling all of the flu cases as COVID, right?
	Flu just disappeared.
	Now, that wasn't a real tell either, was it?
	One explanation seems to be possible.
	The flu vaccine or any vaccine weakens and challenges the immune system with an adjuvant, aluminum, mercury, etc.
	And while in the weakened state, the person comes in contact with another virus or toxin or weather fluctuation and becomes sick.
	Exactly.
	You see, all these people, especially the celebrities, I remember Glenn Beck did it, and immediately got sick.
	And we see this all over and over again.
	I saw it with, I don't know if he did it publicly or if he just talked about it, but Bill Maher talked about it.
	He said, hey, look at all the people who get this stuff.
	They immediately get really, really sick.
	And, you know, I've seen it happen over and over again with these public vaccinations and this stuff because it does affect your immune system and makes you sick.
	So this year is terrible.
	Everyone around me has tested positive for influenza A. Of course, they are tested with a PCR test, which is just more junk science.
	Everyone seems to have the same symptoms.
	I'd be interested in seeing what the CDC publishes about the effectiveness for this year.
	I wouldn't believe any of it.
	I don't even believe they're unemployment figures coming from the Labor Department, and neither do they.
	I mean, they adjust them up by over 800,000 jobs and all the rest of this stuff.
	Everything they tell us, whether they're talking about inflation or jobs or flu cases or vaccine effectiveness, everything that the government does is a lie.
	Everything.
	I mean it.
	I can't find anywhere where they tell us the truth.
	This was sent to me by another listener.
	Madras says, And there's a link to Medical Express saying parents rushed to vaccinate children after the measles outbreak hits Texas.
	And of course, now after RFK Jr. has even come out and said, you really need to have that MMR shot.
	Oh, you got to get it.
	And so Madra said, you know, this child might have been recently vaccinated.
	If they consider anything under a few months as unvaccinated, we don't know anything about the child.
	All they say is, well, what did the child die from?
	Did the child have any?
	Complicating.
	Oh, unvaccinated.
	Where did the child die from?
	Unvaccinated.
	Were there any complications?
	Pre-existing medical conditions.
	Well, the kid was unvaccinated.
	You know, unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated.
	That's all they'll tell you about it.
	So she'd now see whether or not this kid is real.
	I think the kid was real.
	I think somebody died.
	I think that they certainly misattributed this, though.
	But...
	You've had, and I mentioned this, the vaccine companies say that it is, you do not use this vaccine on somebody who's sick.
	Again, going back to what we're talking about, how it affects your immune system.
	So I said, don't give somebody the MMR shot when they're already sick.
	So she said, we also don't know what's in those vials.
	It's roulette.
	Absolutely is.
	Absolutely is.
	We don't know what the hospital is doing to the child.
	And then finally, This is from another listener talking about modifying the egg supply, putting mRNA in egg yolks, and he found an important study going back to the COVID nonsense.
	Back in February of 2023, he said, this study says multiple studies show egg yolk antibodies are blocking the binding of multiple SARS-CoV-2 spike protein variants.
	So in other words, they went back and they looked at this spike protein thing that they designed as a bioweapon and put it in the shots and got your body manufacturing it so that it never stops.
	And they said, this is doing something that supposedly blocks this virus.
	Now, if that were true, as he points out, he said, don't you think if egg yolk would block the virus that they would tell people about it?
	I mean, what's the adverse conditions for egg yolks?
	Don't say cholesterol because it's not an issue.
	But, you know, wouldn't they tell people that?
	Of course not.
	And if that was the case.
	And then he goes on to say, well, maybe that is why they're coming after the eggs and the chickens.
	And I think it is because they want to come after anything that's healthy.
	I read you what RFKJ said to try to redeem himself.
	And he was attacked by mainstream media.
	For talking to people about eat healthy food.
	Get vitamins.
	Where are you going to get those vitamins and healthy food?
	You're going to get it from eggs.
	We're going to take a quick break and when we come back I want to talk about this guy who was telling everybody that trying to convince Christians that the vaccine would redeem abortion.
	Yes.
	He actually said that.
	that.
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	He says, David, RFK can be a switch hitter for the pharma team.
	All of the mainstream media should wear the pharma team uniform.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's not just Fox.
	It's that Fox is there to convince the conservatives, you know, to get them to trust.
	Trust the plan.
	OctoSpook.
	I should think RFK's work will first be getting real data to justify what he does.
	As all he has been left with is garbage.
	Yeah, well, he could tell people the truth that 154 people is nothing to be concerned about.
	He could tell people the truth about measles.
	He could tell people, even if he doesn't tell them the truth about a virus.
	And I know most people, you know, think that there are viruses in contagion.
	I used to think that as well.
	Everybody's like, you know, it's one of these things where...
	When you start to question it, it's like, really?
	Because that's a major paradigm shift.
	But he doesn't even have to go to that major paradigm shift.
	He can just tell people the real truth that we all know.
	He doesn't need to find any data.
	The data is there.
	And he's been telling people that data for the longest time.
	And now he's contradicted everything, all of his research, all the data from Children's Health Defense.
	He's now just contradicted all of that.
	Let's talk about contradiction.
	And I've talked about this guy before, Curtis Chang.
	He is one of the Judas goats, and I mean that in every sense.
	He's one of the big Judas goats of Christianity.
	Pushing people, and he had Robert Jeffress.
	He did a video with Robert Jeffress, who got this big mega church in Dallas and was cheering Trump along with all this stuff.
	And they were talking, they did a series of videos back in the day, and I talked about it at the time.
	Of how you can convince pastors to be Judas goats to their own people.
	They didn't call it that, of course.
	Get the pastors to convince the people that trust them.
	Trust.
	That trust them to do everything that Trump and the public health people and Fauci tell them.
	Tell them that they've got to be good citizens and obey the government.
	And even worse than that, Curtis Chang was saying that the Trump COVID vax Quote, redeems an abortion in the same way that Jesus redeems us.
	And so this is back in 2023. Or actually, it was earlier than that.
	See the date on this story here.
	Back to the original story.
	I think that this was earlier than that.
	But I had covered and played on the show many videos that he did.
	He actually set up an entire website that was called Christians and the Vaccine.
	But it was really focused to Christian leaders, the wolves among the sheep, to gaslight their people.
	Now, his main website that he set up in 2019 was called Redeeming Babel.
	And then he set up this one, Christians and the Vaccine.
	And I went to Christians and the Vaccine for this show.
	And guess what?
	That website is gone.
	The website where he was working with all these traitorous Christian leaders like Robert Jeffress, these Trump suckers, and all the videos he had, that's all gone.
	Christians and the Vaccine has been deep sick.
	You get some Asian game site now or something.
	And then I looked for the videos where there was a CNN video.
	And it showed up pretty high in the search rankings.
	And the title of the CNN article with a two-and-a-half-minute interview with Curtis Chang was titled, Former Evangelical Pastor Calls for an End to Religious Exemptions for Vaccines.
	Now, why would you ever do that?
	First of all, a pastor should never...
	Anybody should never encourage someone to violate their conscience.
	If you have a deep conviction about something and you violate that, that's a sin.
	That is something that Paul wrote extensively about when he's talking to meat sacrifice to idols.
	I understand this doesn't mean anything, but if somebody thinks it does, don't get them to violate their conscience.
	And so you should never, ever try to get people to violate their conscience.
	But he wanted to violate consciences, bodies, souls, and all the rest of this.
	So he's flushed all that stuff.
	But here is, I was able to find this, where he's talking about the vaccine redeeming an abortion.
	The COVID vaccine?
	Can serve as an image of God's redemption.
	Redemption is God's ultimate answer to the problem of original sin.
	This guy is Satan reincarnated.
	And reworking that thing into something good.
	The Bible tells us that in his death and resurrection, Jesus redeemed human sin.
	The very human line.
	1 Corinthians 15:22 puts it this way: "For as all die in Adam, so also all shall be made alive in Christ." In other words, Adam's original sin had an impact on us all.
	We are descendants of his spiritual line and we are impacted by his original sin.
	But the sinful origin is not the final verdict.
	The spiritual line of Adam has been reworked by Jesus so that what began as a story of sin and death Now listen to how he twists the truth, Like Satan.
	Well, it's hard for the human mind to grasp.
	This is why we need images of redemption in the world.
	We need examples that can serve as metaphors of what Jesus accomplished that show us Jesus' redemption.
	So now you can explain Jesus' work by showing the COVID vaccine.
	That the COVID vaccine is an image of redemption.
	Isn't that amazing?
	Yes.
	The vaccine may have a distant origin story in abortion, but that past has been reworked and redeemed into something that saves life.
	We can point to the vaccine and say, Jesus' redemption is kind of like that.
	Cannibalism is great too.
	The production of a vaccine in less than a year?
	It's really a miracle.
	Something like this has never happened.
	Heard that from Al Mohler, too.
	I personally believe God's redemptive power was present in the process.
	So my invitation to pro-life Christians who may distrust the COVID vaccine currently is this.
	Please remember that the Christian story is the story of redemption.
	Every one of us has an origin story in sin.
	None of us can avoid this.
	Yet, each of us has had our story reworked by Jesus into new life.
	That's what it ultimately means to be pro-life.
	Isn't that amazing?
	This guy is like the incarnation of Satan himself.
	He's going to take scripture, he's going to take the work of Christ, and he's going to spin it and twist it into convincing you to partake of a poison.
	Boy, is that not the Garden of Eden all over again?
	Man!
	Man, the COVID vaccine can serve as an image of God's redemption, says the serpent who wants to kill you and your children.
	I propose the COVID vaccine is an image of redemption.
	Yes, the vaccine may have a distant origin in abortion.
	Yeah, you know, like this.
	This is how they got the MMR shot.
	A baby this age.
	Yeah, but it's okay.
	You know, we could do that.
	And, you know, if you're hungry, cannibalism is okay, too.
	Because it may have had its origins in murder, but, you know, look at the good.
	I mean, you had a nice meal, right?
	And, of course, there isn't anything that is redeeming about this poison.
	We know what it has done to people, but that's what these satanic lies are really about.
	By the way, Trump paid him.
	The reason I wanted to get his original website...
	It was because when I talked about it, he was getting grants from Trump's Ad Council.
	He's getting grants from the CDC and all.
	He's getting all these different organizations within the Trump administration.
	We're giving this guy money to do this kind of stuff.
	So he says, so that's what it means to be pro-life.
	To be pro-life is to be pro-redemption.
	And to be pro-redemption, in my view, means being pro-vaccine.
	Boy, you talk about a silly syllogism.
	Does not follow.
	Does not follow.
	But again, it goes back to what RFK Jr. was doing.
	Do evil so that good may come.
	That kind of logic.
	Well, now in an update to this, and this is the reason why I'm going back and grabbing this.
	In an update to this, as we see some of the stuff from USAID, guess what?
	He was getting money, and some of the other people who were working with him on that were getting money for another similar type of project that was out there.
	And, of course, he was working with leftist people like David French and this other guy who was with the Southern Baptist Convention.
	What is his name?
	His face is very familiar.
	But, let's see, Russell.
	Moore, yeah, Russell Moore, David French, Curtis Chang.
	Mark those names.
	I'm serious, mark those names.
	Very dangerous people.
	But they're being funded by the CIA as well.
	That's what USAID is.
	And what was the CIA funding these wolves among the sheep with?
	This is an article from Dissenter.
	He says the so-called aid agency has been nothing but taxpayer-funded slush fund for the leftist agenda.
	But it's not leftist.
	It's satanic.
	It is the death agenda.
	And depravity agenda of the CIA. Whether you're talking about their coups, their wars, or their bioweapon shots.
	For a country that's already drowning in debt, hemorrhaging taxpayer dollars to fund anti-American nonsense is beyond foolish.
	It's criminal.
	Why should hardworking Americans be forced to bankroll groups like World Relief, a so-called Christian organization?
	Actually, you know, he got money from the Trump administration.
	That guy I just showed you.
	That takes millions in federal funding only to push leftist open border policies and soft-pedal woke ideology under the guise of compassion.
	By the way, if you haven't read up on them, do yourself a favor.
	He's got a link at dissenter.
	He spells that D-I-S-N-T-R dot com.
	He's got a link to World Relief is a Left-Wing Front.
	He said these organizations are not Christian ministries.
	They're just Democrat-aligned activist groups wrapped in Bible speak.
	No.
	Look, this is far worse than Democrat.
	This is demonic.
	It's demonic-aligned activist groups.
	And as he points out later on in this article, he gets conservatives like Bill Kristol.
	It is not left and right.
	Get out of that paradigm.
	That is another thing that's being used to control you, the Hegelian dialectic of left and right, this partisan cheerleading of booing this national anthem and booing that national anthem and cheering this one and fistfights over it and all the rest of the stuff.
	You know, understand where this is coming from and understand what it is.
	And oppose it on the basis of what it is, not what it is aligned with.
	It's evil in its own right.
	You don't have to connect it to bad people, to deceptive people.
	But it is always interesting to see these connections, isn't it?
	Because there is like a genealogy, according to that.
	Redeeming Babel created the famous after-the-party curriculum.
	To be given to adults in Sunday school.
	And what that meant was we just got to get rid of partisan politics.
	And yet, as he points out, it was highly partisan.
	With Curtis Chang, Russell Moore, David French, and so, they are highly partisan.
	And this after-the-party thing was funded by USAID. Along with other taxpayer-funded grants.
	The money trail is as filthy as it is predictable.
	The Defending Democracy Together Institute, a group run by none other than neocon Bill Kristol, is directly funding Redeeming Babel, Curtis Chang's organization behind the after-party.
	And where does DDTI get its money?
	From the Hopewell Fund, from the Rockefeller Fund, Philanthropy Advisors, Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors, and a host of other progressive grant-making organizations, many of which receive federal grants, including USAID-funded entities.
	All right, see in the picture now, USAID has been nothing but a taxpayer-funded money funnel for the leftist agenda.
	But again, it's not leftist.
	He's even talking about how it's Bill Kristol.
	It's globalist.
	It's demonic.
	It's satanic in what it wants to do.
	It's going to tell people, take the vaccine.
	If you take the vaccine, that redeems the abortions.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Just amazing.
	Okay, so, yeah, we don't have our guest.
	Catherine's not here yet, but I've got some comments here, too.
	Handy says, I've been suspecting our nursing home influenced the outbreaks.
	We've seen it over and over again from celebrities who do it to encourage people.
	Get your flu shot.
	I'm getting my flu shot.
	Well, they're really sick.
	I've known people who've gotten Guillain-Barre syndrome.
	I've known two people who have gotten Guillain-Barre syndrome wound up in the hospital after getting a flu shot.
	But going back to Handy.
	He says, I know that January 2021 had an obvious spike.
	And very sick patients shortly after in-house COVID jab clinics in our nursing homes.
	And that's what got me banned for two years on Twitter.
	And I remember I played, Handy was talking about it, and I also remember it was a young black guy who was in tears because he said, I worked all last year and we kept our patients safe and nobody got sick during the quote-unquote pandemic.
	He believed that it was a pandemic.
	And he said, now we just rolled this out and we vaccinated our patients.
	And he said, we've had like 14 of them die within a couple of days.
	And he goes, and then a lot of the other people, not most of them, but many of the other people are just kind of sitting there in a fog.
	And he said, and we never saw that.
	He said, I just can't do this.
	And he was in tears.
	I remember playing that several times.
	Cecilia14, David Knight, I read today, proof the U.S. and the U.K. hospitals vaccinate people.
	When under sedation for surgery without their consent.
	And that could be what happened to this child.
	Who knows?
	Isn't it horrific?
	You know why they do that?
	It's for money, but it's the slavish devotion to a cult.
	You know, people will talk about the Freemasons or something like that.
	Alex has actually got a guy who says, I'm a 32nd degree Freemason, and he's pushing it on the Alex Jones show.
	Freemasonry now, they're pushing.
	What that place has become is just unbelievable.
	But, yeah, I mean, talk about a cult.
	The vaccine stuff truly is.
	While we're waiting for Catherine, I want to talk a little bit about what's coming up with the Bitcoin Reserve because I want to ask her questions about this.
	So let me lay down some of this while we're waiting for her to come on.
	So I'm going to take a quick break.
	And then we're going to come back and we'll talk about what is going on with the Bitcoin Reserve.
	We'll get into more detail with that with Catherine Austin Fitz when she joins us.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We were not back on here.
	You have, with a goal card...
	There's something that, you know, the program that it replaced, if somebody could, like, give a million dollars or they, you know, set up a business with $800,000 that had a certain number of employees, and they could get in on that program.
	And there's been, you know, a few thousand people who did that each year.
	But with a gold card, with $5 million, they're going to say that you only have to pay taxes on the money that you earn in America.
	Isn't that nice?
	And I'm just kind of wondering if there might be a loophole for Roger Ver in all this stuff.
	You know, since the IRS is coming after him, since he renounced his citizenship, and they said, you know, that they thought that the Bitcoin that he sold was worth more than it actually was.
	I wonder if he could exercise that as, do we have Catherine on the line?
	Okay, you need to tell me up here.
	But, all right, so let's go to Catherine Austin Fitz, who is now on the line, and I want to welcome her.
	Thank you for joining us, Catherine.
	It's always great to have you here.
	I hope all is well in Tennessee.
	Well, thank you.
	Yes, it's a great place to be, as you know as well.
	But let me introduce Catherine.
	And of course, she has residence in Tennessee.
	She spends some time in the Netherlands as well.
	But she has a very interesting history.
	She was Assistant Secretary for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
	She has had a lot of experience as an investment advisor at the Hamilton Securities Group.
	And she now has Solari, which is a great source of information About culture as well as finances.
	Primarily finances.
	But I love the stuff that you have on culture as well at Solari.
	She has Heroes of the Week.
	She has Music of the Week and Art of the Week and all these other kinds of things because it really is about us reclaiming the culture and taking back our lives.
	And money is an important part of that, but it's not the only part of that.
	And so I really do like Solari.
	They cover in-depth different issues with publications on a regular basis.
	This is nothing that is new, but what do you think is going on with Doge?
	What's your opinion of it?
	So, I think DOGE is, the public goal is to cut current expenditures and rebalance basically the federal model.
	And DOGE is certainly cutting some current expenditures.
	I think one of the goals of DOGE, and I think it's multiple goals, is to cancel The old tools of empire and build the new tools of empire.
	And I would say Doge is an operation.
	Technically, they finally found somebody to admit to being the head of it.
	That was funny, too, wasn't it?
	That he says, well, you know, he's not an employee, he's not this or that.
	I mean, they tried to disclaim that he was...
	So who is the head of it if it's not Elon Musk?
	Well, actually, Musk...
	You know, and I would say all 30 of the Elon Musk characters.
	Because I don't think Elon Musk is a person.
	I think it's an operation.
	And if you look at how many Elon Musks there are doing how many things.
	It's like multiplicity.
	Remember that movie with Keaton?
	I just watched a video, which was clearly one of the newer actors who didn't quite have the shtick down yet.
	And he was wearing sunglasses.
	I guess the mask was slipping or something.
	I don't know what the problem was.
	But anyway, but I think Doge, one of the goals of Doge is to lower current expenditures.
	But also what they're trying to do is cancel the old tools.
	You know, in the old model, in the unipolar model, you'd go into a country and you'd throw a lot of money around and put everybody on the payroll.
	So in the United States, you put them all on the payroll of defense contractors and government contractors abroad.
	You put them on all these NGO boards.
	So if you're changing the model of how, you know, if you're going from a unipolar to a multipolar world, as Rubio has announced, You don't need all those tools.
	And so, you know, instead you've got SpaceX satellites flying overhead and all sorts of surveillance, and you've got drones and other things.
	So you have a different model of how you're going to implement your power, and that means you need to switch the money from the old to new.
	The other thing that I think is going on is that there is an effort to build the control grid.
	And part of building the control grid, one of the chief components of building the control grid, Is to put the fiscal side of the house under the control of the bankers.
	And you do that by getting rid of the civil service.
	So part of what you're seeing is the gutting of civil service so you can move in corporate contractors.
	So remember Elon Musk, who's sort of the titular face of Doge.
	He's not running Doge, but he's the face of Doge and he's sort of the PR on Doge.
	You know, his companies have received, we now estimate, $38 billion of contracts or grants from the U.S. federal government.
	Over what period of time?
	Was this prior to this or since this?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, prior.
	I remember when it was only like $4 or $5 billion about 10 years ago, and L.A. Times did a story about how he was the king of crony capitalism.
	So we've talked about that, but now it's up to nearly 10 times that amount.
	Right, and I don't object to somebody.
	So, for example, I don't object to somebody doing rockets through a SpaceX in a private company.
	You know, there's a way to use, for government to use private services, which is, as far as I'm concerned, could be perfectly legitimate.
	The problem is, one of the things you're watching with Doge is you had many different agencies, 11 +, who were doing investigations or regulatory actions of different Musk.
	And so all of those, you know, first the White House ethics officer was fired.
	And if you, Musk is technically a government special employee.
	And if you look at the laws that are being broken in terms, you know, it is against the law for government special employee to be involved in decisions that affect them personally, their personal profit.
	You know, pocketbook.
	And if you look at all the decisions that it appears that Musk is being involved in, it's inconceivable to me that you're not violating those laws.
	And that's a criminal violation, by the way.
	But then you have 11 plus agencies doing, I think, almost 18 to 20 investigations.
	Of Musk's companies in a variety of forms, or regulatory actions.
	And in most of those agencies, the inspector generals have been fired.
	One of the big ones, the SEC, they've done an executive order saying, you know, we're in control and you report to us.
	You know, that's the president, but that's the kind of...
	That will put the fear of God into anybody in any of those agencies from doing anything that would touch muscular companies.
	But then the last thing, and probably the most outrageous, if you look at the data transfers that appear to be happening, those are data transfers that if they're going into AI could make that AI phenomenally more valuable.
	At the very same time that...
	Musk is out, according to public reports, in the private market raising capital for XAI, which is a separate company, that's the AI, and then SpaceX.
	And we also see the FAA now deciding they were expected to give a contract to another firm, but they're now switching it to SpaceX.
	So if you look at the patterns of the data transfers, if you look at the patterns of the capital raising, if you look at the patterns of targeting agencies that have regulatory enforcement, I think 20 of the people who oversee the portion of the FDI that looks at medical equipment that would go in the head.
	So that would be overseeing Neuralink, they've been fired.
	So whether it's regulatory actions, investigations, things related to raising capital in the private markets, or government contracts, etc., etc., you've got every indication.
	I mean, if there was a real serious person who was trying to enforce the law, You know, this would require a special prosecutor to look at all the potential violations.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, you know, I've reported on the fact that he was under investigation.
	Starlink was under investigation for what was going on in Ukraine.
	And so we see this type of thing happening over and over again.
	As you point out, 11 different agencies, and the first one to go was the Ethics Committee.
	This is somebody who has always profited.
	He's become the wealthiest man in history by doing what the government's won.
	And even when you look at Tesla.
	You know, he was there at the very forefront of pushing the electric cars and pushing self-driving cars, which is the first project that DARPA had that they opened up to competition.
	And when you look at the crashes that they've had with the self-driving cars, they've had crashes at a rate that far exceed deaths, that far exceed what was happening with the exploding Pintos back in the 1970s.
	And so I imagine there's some investigations there that got shut down.
	That they were going to get the rule canceled that you had to publicize the number of crashes and whose car it was.
	Here's the thing.
	I don't think you're looking at corruption.
	I think you are looking at literally, because I don't think Musk, don't think of Musk as a person.
	Think of it as an operation.
	There's a Musk theater and a Musk operation.
	And I think what you're watching is the wholesale privatization.
	of whole sections of the U.S. government at the same time that you're bringing in the control grid and you're also trying to shift the line operation into corporate control so the bankers can control it out of the hands of Congress.
	I agree.
	When you talked about the fact that being able to take all that massive amount of information that he has access to and turn it over to his AI. That has always been the issue.
	Big compute, right?
	And I think it was part of the motivation of why he wanted to get Twitter, you know, and turn it into X, because that gives him access to big data.
	It's one of the complaints that they had about TikTok.
	Besides the influence, they said, look, it's getting all this information on Americans.
	They said that during the first Trump administration about 5G. They said, well, we don't want Huawei getting all this information about us because it's too easy to spy on people with 5G. Well, the U.S. government wants to be the one to spy.
	Yeah, but let's look at how the money works at the big picture level.
	So in the last 10 years, what we've seen is China take the lead in science and technology away from the United States.
	Yes, yes.
	And this is a very...
	You know, one person I heard the other day said, you know, we went to the big defense contractors and the big tech companies and said, okay, we'll give you a monopoly if you maintain our hegemony.
	And so they got a monopoly and everybody got to be billionaires, but they didn't maintain the hegemony.
	So this is a very dangerous situation because we've gone from leading.
	There's an Australian think tank that's started by the Australian government that tracks the top 64 technologies.
	You know, in 2008, we were leading in 60 of 64. Now we're leading in 7, and China's leading in 57. I mean, that's a huge shift.
	That's number one.
	Part of our strategy, the neocon strategy in Ukraine, was we were going to implode Russia again, and we were going to use Russia's resources to maintain our hegemony vis-a-vis China.
	What happened was the strategy of hybrid warfare failed.
	And now we see Russia much stronger.
	And as a result, having to depend on China, making China much stronger, making Iran stronger, making Turkey stronger, making North Korea stronger.
	And so now that you can't plunder Russia, who can the American syndicate, who can the deep state plunder?
	Well, they can plunder Europe and America.
	Who was it?
	Was it someone?
	Was it you?
	Someone was talking about, in a video I was watching, about when a bear goes out, if they can't find food, when they come home, a black bear, they eat their cubs.
	You only have to run faster than the slowest person if the bear is chasing you as a group, right?
	Well, but here's the thing.
	Americans don't understand what is underway.
	That's right.
	It's interesting, before coming in, the administration, the various people in the administration used the term shock and awe a lot.
	We're going to have so many executive orders lined up, so many actions lined up, it's going to be shock and awe.
	And that's what they're doing.
	They're doing shock and awe.
	Yeah, I think that's incredibly dangerous to be ruled by executive order.
	We criticized that when it was Biden, but now the same people who criticized Biden for ruling by executive order now have no problem with Trump doing it to a far greater extent.
	They just want a czar, they want a king, and I think it's a very dangerous thing.
	But getting back to what's coming next.
	If you look at the polls, I don't think they want this.
	I don't think there's as much support as you think.
	I hope not.
	I get a lot of pushback from people when I criticize Trump as acting as a king with executive orders.
	No, no, no.
	You can't imagine the pushback I've gotten for the last two years on this.
	I bet.
	I bet.
	Well, you know, when you talk about what is coming, I've said that I agree with you absolutely that he's trying to dismantle this state for the next one that is coming.
	Let's talk a little bit about that.
	I said I think he's trying to minimize government, meaning the bureaucracy, so he can maximize governance through AI. And I said, you know, I'd much rather have an army of IRS agents than AI auditing everybody.
	I do not see one indication that they are planning on Lessening government.
	Okay.
	So the question is, does government serve the general population or does it serve the billionaires?
	Yeah, that's right.
	So I think they're changing who the government serves and how it serves.
	And I think they're changing the tools.
	But I think they need government more than ever.
	I mean, if you're Elon Musk and your companies have gotten $38 billion, how are you going to get your next $38 billion?
	You're not going to get that from the general population.
	You're going to get it from government.
	So these guys are...
	You know, they're switching money from the other syndicates to their syndicate.
	Yeah.
	But I don't see any...
	Any indication, they look to lessen government's power.
	Well, what I mean by that in terms of minimizing government, I mean minimizing the employees and starting to roll out this whole thing where AI is replacing jobs, especially white-collar jobs.
	Rolling that out in the bureaucracy, that's kind of some low-hanging fruit.
	And then having AI be the surveillance grid that is controlling us, that would really kind of maximize their governance, right?
	There are 6 million people working for the federal government, 3 million in corporate contractors.
	and three million civil service.
	They're simply looking to move as many functions as possible to the corporate contractors.
	Okay?
	And that means the central bankers can control and operate.
	So let me explain how the U.S. government works today.
	Okay?
	All right.
	So approximately a little bit less than a third, well, about a trillion dollars or a trillion-plus dollars every year has to be borrowed to keep the government going, right?
	Bye.
	Right.
	The primary dealers, of which Howard Lutnick's firm is one of the biggest ones, sell debt into pension funds, retirement funds, wealth-solving funds all around the world.
	And then that money goes in the New York Fed as depository for the U.S. government in the Treasury and other agency accounts.
	And then the money gets spent.
	If that money were to stop today, the whole operation would stop.
	Because the bank account wouldn't execute the transactions, and the primary dealer network and the Fed wouldn't borrow the money, right?
	Okay, so anything that's going on in the government is going on because that's what the New York Fed and its owners want, right?
	Because they could stop it like that, right?
	Okay, so they control.
	Now, you have a bureaucracy of 2.9 million, you know, I always round off to 3 million people, and the problem with that bureaucracy is they will insist, by and large, on getting written instructions.
	So they won't act unless they get written instructions, and those written instructions have to be in accordance with the laws and the budgets promulgated by Congress.
	Okay.
	Now, when I was Assistant Secretary of Housing, the only exception to that was the corporate contractors who would completely ignore what Congress said and would do according to some other mysterious set of instructions that they somehow magically got, right?
	Which is, you know, we've come to call that the deep state.
	But they basically implemented the deep state's wishes and...
	The problem with bureaucracy is they wanted written instructions, and you can't give written instructions for, you know, the deep state, what the deep state wants, because it's not in accordance with the appropriations in the law.
	I'm closely oversimplifying, but essentially, these guys don't want to cancel government, they just want to control government.
	Right, right.
	And they want plenty of government because they can't get, I mean, if you look at any of Musk's operations, it can't get along without subsidies.
	I agree.
	But don't you think that part of his thing is massive?
	You know, we're talking about the big compute and his access to data there.
	You know, he wants to sell a lot of artificial intelligence.
	And I've got to say, I'm really concerned about the efficiency of government, especially when it's doing things I don't like it doing, things that it doesn't have any authority to do.
	And I think it can make it a lot more dangerous.
	And I've thought this from the very beginning when it focused on efficiency.
	That he was pushing towards a kind of technocracy approach with artificial intelligence and things like that.
	How do you see that?
	No, efficiency is just the word they use to sell it.
	I mean, it's just a way of describing a coup, okay?
	You can't say, David, I want to take all the data.
	And steal it.
	I just want to ignore the laws and take all the data and privatize it so I can rule you.
	You can't say that, right?
	That's not a marketing spin.
	So you say, I'm making it more efficient because I'm firing the Democrats.
	You know, I'm firing all these people who wasted your money on...
	DEI and all this other stuff.
	And from what I can tell, they're firing a lot of great stuff that ought to be stopped and is a waste of money.
	If it really does go through.
	And of course, the jury is still out with a lot of the stuff that they've announced as to whether or not...
	It'll actually be followed through, or the fights that they're going to have in the courts over things like that.
	I agree.
	I'm for cutting government down as much as possible.
	With you, I don't think that they're really about making government smaller.
	I think they're about just changing the structure for their own benefit.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So here's the thing to know, though.
	If you really want to fire all these people...
	You can do it as long as you follow procedures.
	You know, for grants and contracts, there's always a way to end them or to just not renew them or whatever, but it's neurosurgery, okay?
	You have to go in with a scalpel, and you have to pay attention bottom-up to what the terms and conditions of the legal contracts are.
	But there is a way to cut a lot, a lot of stuff, and to cut it relatively quickly.
	It just requires neurosurgery instead of chainsaws.
	Yeah.
	You do chainsaws because you want to scare and shock and awe.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	And that's what we got right now.
	Right.
	Neuraling chainsaw surgery.
	Then you're going to get a complete mess in the courts because, you know, and here's the thing.
	Let's say I want to cancel a million-dollar contract.
	You know, according to the terms and conditions, I can cancel that contract if I follow the procedures, the protocols.
	So let's say I need to give 30 or 90 days notification or whatever the terms and conditions is.
	If I instead just cancel it, shock and awe, they go to court, they win, and instead of paying them a million dollars, now I've got to pay them a million dollars, I've got to pay the attorneys over at Department of Justice to keep them going, I'm going to have to pay their lawyer fees, maybe there's fines, and the next thing you know I'm out $2 million.
	So you didn't save any money, you just made a mess.
	And I've been suspicious from the very beginning that there would be a follow-through on it because of what Trump did with DARPA, for example.
	Not DARPA, DACA. When he comes in, he says he's going to do that, regardless of what...
	Anybody thinks about the policy.
	He had the authority to counterman an executive order from the Obama administration.
	And so he says, well, I'm going to cancel this.
	And they said, well, you can't do that.
	You've got to ask the courts.
	He takes it to the Supreme Court.
	And they say, no, you can't cancel them.
	It's like, what is this about?
	And so I've looked at this and thought, you know, well, they can always come in, like you're pointing out, with a chainsaw and do a chainsaw massacre and then say that the courts shut us down and I've got to abide by it.
	Because he already did that in the first term.
	He already said, I can't.
	Cancel an executive order from Obama.
	So we don't really know what's going to happen with this stuff.
	Right now, it is a lot of shock and awe.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Well, let's talk a little bit about the Bitcoin reserve thing, the summit that is coming up on Friday.
	I'd like to get your take on all of this Bitcoin reserve and just on Bitcoin and crypto in general.
	I think everybody was truly amazed to see that rather than it being a Bitcoin reserve, he throws it out with three cryptocurrencies that most people were not aware of.
	Well, because if you're trying to build the control grid, you want a payment system, crypto.
	Yeah.
	So XRP is in the lead, but then you have also two Swiss ones.
	And the first three he throws out are designed to promote the payment system.
	So if you look at the article we published about two weeks ago about Trump administration building the control grid, so I said one of the chief components of the control grid is replace the civil service with corporate contractors so that the central banks can control.
	But one of them is we want a digital ID and we want an all-digital monetary system, which means you need a real payment system.
	So Bitcoin is basically a Ponzi scheme.
	It's a pump-and-dump tool.
	That won't do.
	And so what you need to do is pick out some of the crypto that you want to be significant payment systems.
	XRP already is.
	You know, for the banks on a wholesale basis.
	Now, it's interesting, after there were complaints, we get another tweet saying, okay, we're going to add Ethereum and Bitcoin.
	Now, we've published a big piece, it's up at Solari, called Bitcoin Bailout.
	And I can't think of a more corrupt action by state or federal government in this day and age than buying Bitcoin.
	I just, it is...
	Literally, I mean, I would rather see a strategic national reserve in jello and silly putty.
	No, no.
	At least you can do something with those, right?
	Well, there is a reason for a petroleum strategic reserve.
	That is a real asset that we need and we use.
	There is a reason to have gold.
	We all know what it is.
	There is a reason to have...
	various food stockpiles okay there is no reason to stockpile a speculative asset that's essentially a ponzi scheme which is what bitcoin is and and the notion that you are cutting you know radical cuts because you need to get current expenditures down because you need to pay down your debt
	you can't take on more debt but you're going to go out and put money in speculative assets and if you look at the polls most americans do not favor putting their money in speculative assets They don't.
	I mean, they just don't.
	And the notion that you're going to tax people and use their money to invest in a speculation?
	You know, David, if you've done anything with government money, it's the most outrageous thing I've ever seen.
	When you look at Bitcoin, a very small percentage of the holders own a great deal of Bitcoin, and their problem is it's not a liquid market, it's a thin market, and they can't get out without trashing the price.
	So there's no way they can exit at the current price.
	So they want to get out on a high.
	The only way they can do that is by bringing in a flood of new investors.
	Well, there's nobody at retail who's going to hold the price up.
	The only way you can do it is if you can get government to mandate purchases.
	And then you can hold the price up and you can run the price up and you can hold up long enough so you get out.
	Now my concern is the way they want to get out is to swap it for land.
	Yes, I agree.
	The federal government owns a tremendous amount of land and mineral resources.
	We see Howard Lutnick in the transition talking about the U.S. balance sheet has $500 trillion of land and mineral resources.
	I agree with him.
	I don't know about that number.
	I'll point out, in the first Trump administration, Trump authorized a U.S. Geological Survey survey of all the mineral resources in the country.
	So, you know, there is a real effort to identify all the assets.
	And frankly, if you can run up Bitcoin with government purchases and then swap for the land, you can do a land grab that is a steal.
	Oh, I agree.
	And it's, you know, Lutnik said it, and Besant said it.
	Besant said, we've got a lot of resources, meaning the natural resources, and we're going to put them to work.
	You know, and you also had Doug Burgum say that, who is, you know, Secretary of the Interior.
	And he talked to us specifically about that.
	I absolutely agree.
	And I think that is, that was the next thing I wanted to ask you about.
	But before we move on from this, again, I think it's very interesting.
	Can I just point out one thing?
	A Ponzi scheme only works if you get a new flood of investors.
	The problem with being the last investor in a Ponzi scheme is you're left holding the bag, right?
	So if you're a government and you use your purchases to run the price way up, there's no one else to come in and take you out.
	And if you swap for your land at that high price, then you've given up a precious resource and gotten nothing because now you're headed to zero.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	It's a scam.
	And, of course, all of the Bitcoin people and everything were saying, you know, well, this is where we want to go.
	We know that governments are going to adopt this.
	I mean, they've been kind of angling towards this Ponzi scheme from the very beginning.
	You know, if we can get the governments to come in, they can be the greater fool.
	And we can give the bag to them.
	Right.
	So you mentioned Roger Ver.
	And in 2017, I did a very serious due diligence as an investment advisor at Bitcoin.
	I came away with the conclusion, okay, it's a Ponzi scheme.
	But I didn't begin to have the knowledge that Roger did.
	And when he published Hijacking Bitcoin, that was what gave me really the ability to publish Bitcoin bailout.
	Because I had...
	You know, basically an insider's story of how Bitcoin had gotten hijacked.
	And to understand Bitcoin, you really need to understand how what was initially a very ingenious design got hijacked and changed from a payment system into a pump and dump, you know, tool.
	And we did a great interview with Steve Patterson.
	If you don't know Steve Patterson, he's Roger's co-author and an absolutely brilliant, very good person to teach you about this whole space.
	And the two of them have written a magnificent book.
	I said it was the book of the year last year.
	It was just amazing.
	Hijacking Bitcoin.
	Yeah, hijacking Bitcoin.
	And what it does is it explains to you how it got turned from something that could have been a great payment system into essentially a pump and dump tool.
	I agree.
	And what's amazing is if you look at the...
	It wasn't until Roger published that book that I think a lot of people could turn around and say, stop already.
	This is a Ponzi scheme.
	Stop it.
	And it's funny, we have videos in our commentary on Bitcoin bailout of Peter Thiel.
	Basically saying as much, saying, you know, I didn't put a lot of money in because it can only work if you can get more people in and there's nobody left to come in.
	Except the government, yeah.
	Well, he wasn't thinking, okay, we're going to give hundreds of billions of dollars in donations during the 2024 campaign and then we're going to get a lot of politicians to basically get.
	Taxpayers' money.
	I mean, my attitude is if you can afford to buy Bitcoin, then you can afford to cut taxes.
	I mean, if you as a private citizen want to buy Bitcoin, great.
	But, you know, cut taxes, give people their money back, and let them go.
	Speculate or invest in whatever way they want.
	Oh, I agree.
	Yeah, when he's talking about a Bitcoin reserve, again, that's the angle that you're talking about, which is also dangerous, you know, the pump and dump and grab the land and that type of thing.
	But I thought it was interesting that he focused on these other three.
	It was XRP, which is attached to the company Ripple, ADA and SOL. And all three of them are really kind of transaction processing things.
	That's where they are.
	And so, to me, I look at this, and it sounds like you agree with us as well, that they're moving us towards a kind of a private version of central bank digital currency, maybe as an intermediary step or something like that.
	It seems to me like that's what they would be getting these three for, while they also run the pump and dump with Bitcoin.
	What do you think?
	So let's look at the different component parts of the control grid.
	And this is what we wrote about.
	I have a commentary called the Trump administration built the control grid.
	The first thing you need is a digital ID. And we've talked about all the push for a digital ID. And part of using election fraud and immigration is an excuse to get the digital ID system in.
	Okay, so that's number one.
	The second thing you need to do is you need to move control of fiscal policy to the central banks.
	You're doing that now through Doge.
	That's ongoing.
	You need, essentially, a social credit system by moving all the government data into AI and whatever they're doing.
	That starts to give you the basis of a private social credit system that you can use when you marry it with an all-digital monetary system.
	To get to the all-digital monetary system, you either need a CBDC or the equivalent in private crypto.
	All digital monetary system is much more dangerous than a CBDC. And I'll tell you why.
	In the United States, the Federal Reserve, which has been trying to get out from under for years, has never been able to get out from under the fact that they are a creature of Congress and they are subject to disclosure and reporting to Congress.
	If you can begin, if you can get this going...
	With a private crypto and a private social credit system, then you can do the control grid with no legal responsibilities whatsoever to the general population, and you're much more protected from constitutional powers that would be in place if it was being done by the central bank.
	I agree.
	So this is much more dangerous.
	I agree.
	And, you know, the people who would support Trump, some conservatives or whatever, but the MAGA people, a lot of them have never really paid attention to politics.
	But they trust Trump.
	They trust corporations.
	So it's easier to pull the wool over their eyes if you come at them from a public-private partnership.
	And they don't see that coming.
	And you can bring in the same functions.
	Everybody understands now, I think, what CBDC is.
	You've got some states that are saying, we're not going to have CBDC. But you can maintain these same functions, call it something else, run it through some private companies, and have the functional equivalence of that where you've destroyed what you always refer to as financial privacy in your transactions.
	So, I want to bring up the topic of neurological weaponry.
	Because if you look, you know, I'm in Europe right now.
	And one of the reasons I sometimes enjoy coming back to Europe is the mind control is a lot less invasive here.
	It's what it feels like to me.
	But, you know, we are dealing in the United States through all the digital mechanisms, through the phones, through the digital flat-screen TV, through the Internet.
	We're dealing with huge amounts of what I call entrainment technology and subliminal programming.
	And a lot of politics is driven by essentially propaganda, disinformation, and brainwashing.
	But we're talking about neurological weaponry.
	And if you look at what they're proposing to do with the Stargate function, we're all talking now about the Internet of Bodies and how we've got chips in our bodies from the food, from the spray, from the injections that they're using to hook us up and interact with us.
	Including influencing what we're thinking.
	So what I'm watching is, you know, for all the reasons we've talked about in terms of the food and the injections, a real slipping in the IQs in the general population in America and a real slip in cognition and a tremendous amount of brainwashing.
	Yes, yes.
	So I just think you cannot underestimate the role of brainwashing in this thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	And the pervasive control of the media, as we see through the pharmaceutical companies.
	What do you think of RFK Jr. and his embrace of MMR that he's just done here?
	I look at it and I hear him say, as well as Tulsi Gabbard, their position there is to restore trust in the institutions.
	And I'm afraid that that is exactly right.
	I think that they're trying to get people to...
	Trust pharmaceutical companies and rebuild the trust that was lost during this COVID thing.
	What is your take on that?
	So, we had a meeting of the cabinet.
	It was the first cabinet meeting, and there was a video of Musk addressing the cabinet.
	And RFK, his whole body language suggested...
	I'm in charge, not the president.
	Mm-hmm.
	And if you look at Trump's body language, he was signaling the same.
	It was a very uncomfortable thing to watch.
	And ever since then, somebody's been putting the squeeze to RFK.
	Mm-hmm.
	They put the squeeze to him on measles, tried to trap him.
	Mm-hmm.
	Now, you know, then they put him on the squeeze on MMR, and then now they put him in a squeeze with an anti-Semitism tweet.
	And it looks to me like they're just trying to squeeze him out.
	And I don't know whether it's the Doge operation, I don't know whether it's the pharmaceutical industry.
	I don't know.
	Somebody's trying to squeeze him out.
	And he's being put through sort of the ritual humiliations.
	And his strategy, and I'm just taking it from what he said publicly, is to get into HHS and get the data and get it out.
	And that's going to take time.
	So what he's got to do is he's got to stay in there long enough to get the data and get it out.
	And my guess is, from looking at what he's doing up to right now, he's just going to do whatever he has to do to stay in there, get the data and get it out, and try to make a real difference.
	But in the meantime, he's going to look, you know, This looks terrible.
	It looks ridiculous.
	How much of what he's put out is being written for him and he's being told this is what you're going to do?
	I don't know what the gun to his head is.
	Yeah.
	But there's a gun to his head.
	Well, sometimes we hold the gun to our heads because we think that if we, you know, we've got some mission down the road that we can accomplish and maybe I'm going to have to do a little bit of betrayal, maybe a little bit of lying or whatever in order to achieve that.
	But it just makes it easier to...
	To go off mission, you know, I just, I feel like, I know that's the way a lot of people view their, you know, their strategy.
	You know, you call it 4D chess or whatever, but I just, I don't think we ever get there by compromising our principles.
	I know that politics is the art of compromise, but that's one of the reasons why politics looks the way it is.
	So here's the way I say it.
	There's an inside game and there's an outside game.
	When Trump won, I started to, I can't tell you how many phone calls I got asking me if I would go back in.
	And every time I said, not a chance.
	I will never go back in.
	Period.
	End of discussion.
	You know, I'm all in for an outside game.
	I have a boss.
	They're called the Salary Report subscribers.
	I love my boss.
	It's the best job I've ever had.
	I'm not leaving.
	So I have no intention of playing an inside game.
	You know, I'm playing an outside game and that's it.
	Now, Kennedy decided he wanted to play an inside game.
	Why, I can't tell you, but he did, and he really thinks he can make a difference.
	So, now that he's gotten in, I hope he stays in long enough to see what he can do in terms of getting the data out and moving the machinery.
	I don't know how much he can do.
	But if you've started in, you've got to see it through, if you can.
	Yeah, of course, he was in the outside game with Children's Health Defense, and he had exposed a lot of information, and you can expose a lot of, just like you did with Solari, you can get a lot of information from the outside, and we can also sanity check and consistency check what they're telling us to show that it is a lie.
	We knew all the stuff that was eventually in the Twitter files.
	We knew that long before we knew that that was being done by the government.
	I mean, it was pretty obvious it was done.
	We didn't need to have the receipts.
	I've had an up-close view of what's been done to Kennedy, because I did one speaking tour in Europe with him, and I watched the attacks, and I was there to listen and hear and see, and I got a really inside view.
	And you can't imagine the brutality of the attacks he's dealt with for years and years and years.
	And if you look at the brutality of the attacks he's dealt with for the last two weeks, they're extraordinary.
	And if you look at the brutality of the tax he's having to take from many of his traditional allies because they, of course, feel betrayed, right?
	So, you know, he's in the thick of it.
	And what's incredible to me that, I mean, I've known it intellectually, but it wasn't until I saw his confirmation hearings.
	If you look at the depth of the brainwashing, it is so frightening, especially on vaccines.
	You had, I watched 13 or 14 senators, U.S. senators, who refused to face the fact that we have an extinction-level event in childhood disease in this country.
	It is an extinction-level event, and they refused to face it.
	They refused to take responsibility for it.
	They refused to put something better on the table than what Kennedy was proposing to do.
	And they just smeared him in the most, you know, ridiculous way.
	I agree.
	The one thing we have to talk, so if you look at what's being done to him and what he's doing right now.
	Let me ask you this with the senators.
	Do you think it was brainwashing or was it greenwashing?
	I mean, did the pharmaceutical companies convince these guys or pay them off?
	What do you think?
	Here's what I think.
	I think we are poisoning.
	And killing our own children.
	Yes, I agree.
	I agree.
	And I think there are many different reasons why people won't face that.
	But they literally cannot face that.
	I mean, I think if you're a senator, it's either at a conscious or a subconscious level.
	If it's a conscious level, you know you and your family will never be safe again if people understand what you've really been doing.
	You've been committing mass atrocity.
	That's right.
	On scale.
	Not just in the United States, but globally.
	Do you really want to face that?
	Do you want all your neighbors to know?
	Do you want all your family to know?
	And that you knew it?
	And of course, it escalated with the COVID stuff.
	The whole scam on steroids.
	And they don't want people to know what it is.
	And so you've got everybody now, left and right, pushing this idea of a lab leak because that says, well, we did the best we could, but it was a real thing instead of a fraud.
	And by the way, there's going to be another one.
	So we still have to have all this biosecurity apparatus there.
	We've got to have all the MRAs ready to roll out and everything.
	I mean, the lab leak.
	It really just helps to propagate this, but it does provide them with an alibi, I think.
	What do you think about that?
	Here's the thing.
	I think they're all scared.
	They should be.
	So, you know, after the litigation with the Department of Justice was over, so I was in litigation for 11 years with the Department of Justice.
	After it was over, I published a book to help people understand what had happened.
	And every time I tried to turn that book into a hard copy, I ran into massive amounts of trouble.
	The third time I tried it, which was four years after the litigation ended, I was basically, it was a very sophisticated operation, but it was basically communicated to me that if I went ahead and published it, they would murder, they would kill somebody in my family.
	And at which point I stopped.
	And I said, you know, I didn't, you know, my family should not be responsible for my...
	Efforts to, you know, bring transparency to what's going on in Washington, right?
	So I just stop.
	And you don't know until you're in that position.
	I mean, I was poisoned eight times.
	I had 18 autism investigations.
	I had $6 million of litigation.
	I worked for 36,000 hours for free to deal with it all.
	You know, on and on and on.
	If you haven't been in that spot, you don't understand how scary it is because if you're a senator, they will kill you and they will kill your kids.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they would kill your grandkids.
	These are people who did mass murder around the world.
	Of course they would, yeah.
	Right.
	So whether it's because, I mean, how many people on that committee and how many people in this current administration have major files in the Epstein operation?
	The only guy who doesn't look scared about the whole thing is Howard Ludnik because he had the house next door.
	Right?
	That's right.
	He was real lucky on 9-11 as well.
	He got the advance warrant.
	I'm assuming he got downloads of the Epstein tapes over in his house.
	I don't know.
	Could be.
	So, I mean, now we're into this kabuki theater over the Epstein files.
	And there's no...
	I mean, between the administration and Congress, how many people do you think can...
	We stand real transparency around the Epstein files.
	That's right.
	It's been going on for a long time.
	I remember, you know, both, and I've talked about it multiple times on the show, how both Truman and Nixon were talking about J. Edgar Hoover's massive blackmail operations, how he had files on everybody.
	A similar type of thing.
	Government has always run that way.
	Right, but digital technology has made it far more sophisticated.
	I remember when I was in Washington, the cabinet secretary I was working for was compromised in the Franklin cover-up, and when the Washington Times started running stories about the Franklin cover-up prostitute networks at the hospital, he just went crazy and was being blackmailed, and I was in the middle of it because he was trying to order me to do illegal things and I wouldn't do it.
	So, you know, but I saw, I've never seen a human being more terrified of, more afraid.
	I mean, he was just terrified.
	Because here he is, you know, a big family man and a Christian, and somebody's blackmailing him, presumably over pedophilia, and he's scared to death.
	Well, just like a Dennis Hastert.
	You know, and this is a guy who was a wrestling coach.
	I presume that they knew that there was pedophilia there because he was later blackmailed by one of his students.
	But, you know, they get him into Congress and then they put him in as Speaker of the House for the longest term.
	Now, if they wanted to do anything about this pedophile stuff, it'd be the first thing that they would do if they wanted to stop it or reform it, I think, would be to get rid of the statute of limitations.
	But they won't do any of that stuff because I think that it is something that touches.
	So many of them, so broadly.
	Let me mention one thing, because Epstein was not a sex network.
	I mean, yes, there was sex going on to build control files.
	Epstein's operation supported a massive money laundering.
	And if you look at when we raped Russia in the beginning of the 90s when the Soviet Union fell, those laundry lines went...
	You had a couple of key spots.
	The Ukraine, tremendous amounts coming out through the Ukraine.
	Remember, and we were teamed up with the Russian Mafia.
	There's a wonderful book called Red Mafia by Robert Friedman about the Russian Mafia.
	And the important thing to understand about the Russian Mafia is they're 99% Jewish.
	So you have enormous rat lines through the Ukraine, into Israel, into New York, and London.
	So, London, New York, Israel, Ukraine.
	So, we're talking, when we talk about the Ukraine, you know, you can think of it as a war.
	I think of it as a huge financial money laundering operation.
	Oh, yeah.
	And we've seen that with the Biden family as well, you know.
	Right.
	That exploded in the public eye, that part of it.
	Right.
	But the Epstein operation is right in the middle of that.
	In other words, Zelensky at the White House in the Epstein files.
	You know, everybody thinks they're two different stories.
	To me, they're one story.
	That's good, yeah.
	That's right, they're one story.
	That's an interesting way to look at it, yeah.
	Right, and when Trump says to Zelensky, you don't hold the cards.
	Zelensky's thinking, no, my name is on the bank accounts, and I still got pots of money, and I got all the intel about where the money came in and where it went out.
	So he does hold cards, is what it looks like to me.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And as I said, he also is going back to Europe and asking them to unfreeze the Russian $250 billion or whatever, you know, put it in the microwave or something so he can have access to that.
	What do you think is going to happen with Europe?
	I mean, they're doing all this blustering talk about how they're going to go it alone.
	I don't see any of that happening.
	Here's the problem.
	If you look at this not as a war, but as a huge financial fraud operation, you know, starting, you know, go all the way back to when we laundered the money out of Russia.
	Because remember, that was the goal of the Neocon Strategy, to do it again.
	And it failed.
	And you know the way we do wars in the West, is you borrow money, you use it to do a war, and then with the booty that you win, you pay back the debt and take your profit, right?
	That's how you finance wars, okay, with the bond market.
	Okay, so they did it again.
	So we decided, okay, we finance a lot of loans, a lot of borrowing to finance the war, except now there's no booty because Russia didn't implode again, right?
	So now everybody's sitting, and remember, whatever money I've gotten already, I don't want to give it back.
	I've spent it, I've invested it, whatever.
	But now, the story that I told about how this is going to work, the public story is no good.
	The truth is no good.
	I can't tell everybody what the truth is because, you know, the fact that you're laundering weapons and money all around the world, you can't tell that.
	So how are you going to come up with a new story?
	Right?
	That's right.
	And how are you going to keep it from imploding in a way that could destroy you and your family?
	I mean, I just think they're trying to figure out how to come up with a story and a way forward.
	And here's the problem.
	It's back to the black bear, you know, coming home and cannibalizing his club, his cubs.
	Now, who can Europe, where can they get booty?
	Well, they're going to have to get it from their own population.
	So now you're talking, if they want a war in the Ukraine, it's because they need a way of managing their own populations.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	You've got to do, you know, Germany's talking about doing a draft.
	And they are in such a situation as they've been taking their populations down with the green agenda.
	They've been de-industrializing and impoverishing people, bringing in other groups en masse.
	And so people are pretty upset with them.
	And I think they need a war as a distraction to save themselves.
	I agree.
	Okay, so if the Trump administration is pushing to do a control grid?
	It's a control grid to control the people of the United States.
	Or if they do it with Europe, it's to control the people of the Western world.
	It's not to control Russia.
	It's not to control China.
	That's right.
	Now, here's the thing.
	If you're the Trump administration and you want to get back in the game, you're going to immediately say, wait a minute.
	You know, there's 64 important technologies.
	We've lost the lead on 53 of them.
	We're going to get the lead back.
	A big meeting, let's create a czar, a technology czar, and have a meeting at the White House to figure out how we get the lead back on all 64. They're not doing that.
	They're saying, let's have a meeting on speculative assets.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's not how a great country returns to power.
	That's right.
	And when you look at the hegemony, you said, hey, keep us in the lead, and we'll pay you the money.
	This has gotten to the point where, just like any other welfare program, people get weak and dependent, and so they've fallen behind.
	When we saw this deep-seek stuff, you've now got open AI running to government.
	Part of their game was to tell everybody, look, we're so advanced, we're going to create the next self-aware, artificial, general technology.
	Well, it's very interesting because Xi Jinping held its first meeting in many years with his business leadership.
	So you can see the competition is causing...
	Yeah.
	More integration between business and government on both sides of the aisle, so to speak.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, but I think here's the question for all of us is what do we do?
	Mm-hmm.
	And what we have to do is we have to get really, really smart about in this environment how we, you know, because we have to get good at the new tools.
	Who was it?
	Somebody said the other day.
	You're not going to be replaced by AI. You're going to be replaced by a guy who's using AI well, right?
	So we have to understand how to use the tools, but we have to do it in a way that builds resilience, and we have to do it in a way that creates community.
	So when I'm in the States, I live in Tennessee, you've moved to Tennessee, there's a reason we're in Tennessee, right?
	That's right.
	And that's because you have a much more grounded culture.
	You have a much more Christian culture, and you have a very hard-working ethic.
	And you have lots of fabulous farmland and water.
	So this is not something that we can do by ourselves.
	It's something we need to do in community.
	One of the reasons, if you come to Salary, we have a wonderful book called What the States Can Do.
	And it's a real agenda for states or for citizen lobbyists to work with their states to protect financial freedom.
	I would just note there's a wonderful story of this citizen lobbyist in Idaho, went to a senator, was very upset by what Trump was doing with the mRNA vaccines.
	He never was a complete citizen and just started working with the senator.
	And they've got a bill to outlaw mRNA vaccination in Idaho that's come out of committee and it's going into the full house now.
	Let me ask you about that because we had some state legislators who said, "We're not going to do mRNA in the food." But now they're talking about vaccinating all the farm animals.
	Is there, somebody asked me earlier, and maybe you know, is that outlawed in Tennessee, or is that something we still need to pursue?
	So last year, one of the people we work with tried to run a bill that if you were selling interstate only within the You know,
	everybody, tell your Farm Bureau guys to get with the program.
	There's been a real...
	Anyway, so we need to do that in Tennessee.
	We need to stop mRNA technology.
	In our food system.
	Yes.
	And we need to do that in Tennessee.
	I agree.
	And I agree with what you're saying.
	You know, we have to work locally.
	And it is so much, it's not easy to get it done.
	But it is a lot easier than to try to get it done in Washington.
	And, you know, you're closer to the issue and your community.
	So I think the solutions really lie with us.
	As you pointed out, the grounded people here in Tennessee, the fact that it's a more Christian environment.
	All of this stuff, all the politics is downstream from that, isn't it?
	Right, right.
	Well, thank you so much for joining us.
	Catherine Austin Fitz, I'm sorry, you had one more thing?
	Go ahead.
	No, I just wanted to say, as what the Trump administration is doing and what Doge is doing, as the real implications roll out, I think you're going to have, particularly in a place like Tennessee, you're going to have a lot more people starting to understand, oh...
	This is not what we thought.
	They're not cutting waste.
	I hope they do.
	Well, that's our job.
	That's what we work for, trying to make that happen.
	And again, thank you so much for joining us, Katherine Austin-Fitz.
	And you can find the excellent work that she does at Solari.com.
	Tom, thank you so much.
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