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Feb. 14, 2025 - The David Knight Show
01:02:56
The Shocking Truth of Brian Mock's January 6th Ordeal
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one of the j6ers and he's got a very interesting story and as all of them do and every story is And so he is somebody who was a VP of sales and marketing for a landscaping company in Twin Cities prior to J6, father of four boys, and he went to Washington, D.C. on J6, and we'll let him tell you why he went and what happened when he was there.
Thank you for joining us, Brian.
Thanks for having me on.
Appreciate it.
Well, I think it's important to have you on.
As I've said, every time I have somebody from J6, whatever anybody thinks about J6, we need to think about our Justice Department, about due process and the Constitution, and how this politicized persecution of people that were their political opponents, how heinous that was.
And you're also involved in trying to make that right as well.
So we're going to talk about that coming up.
But first, tell us why you went on J6. Yeah, I guess first off I would tell all of your listeners, anything that you've seen about January 6th is a flat-out utter lie.
I dive deep into the Jan 6th committee's propaganda, and literally they have left out 120 extremely important minutes of that entire day, and that's actually where...
Where my charges came from was five minutes out of that 120 minutes.
So I get people that might be skeptical of me or of other people that were there and go, well, you shouldn't have violence against police.
But I'll start with letting you know everything that you have heard, and I mean everything, is an utter lie.
So if you can keep your mind open for the next 40-ish minutes, you're going to hear some things you probably have never heard before.
Well, that's good.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
So going back to Jan 6, the reason I showed up there, first off, I was never that political.
I referred to myself as being painfully aware.
I knew what was going on in the country.
At least I thought I did.
Having gone through this, not close.
But I knew the corruption.
I knew the things that we see coming out right now in USAID. We all really knew it.
It's a different thing seeing it firsthand and having that open up.
In front of you going, hey, us crazy conspiracy theorists, we were all right for all these years.
We've been trying to tell you.
And so that kind of opens you up to go, okay, well, what else was going on here?
So it's going to be an amazing four years if the first three weeks are any indicators.
So, you know, going back to Jan 6, it was one of these things where...
We had just gone through all the COVID lockdowns.
I had been fighting with walls while my business was shut down for a few weeks.
We had managed to actually prove that we were essential and get to go back to work.
But we were still fighting through those things.
And so you look at a year where I was in Minneapolis and I had watched the Floyd riots firsthand.
And I saw all the lies that the media had told through that.
Things that me and my neighbors had experienced and my clients were nothing compared to what they were showing.
So that was one of the things that kind of started me down this path.
And then I watched what happened during our election.
I had my own Facebook censored on a regular basis because I dared to question the narrative that was put out there.
As that all progressed, I got to the point where I heard about January 6th.
I saw that we had permits to be at the Capitol.
And what I was really looking to do is I had dived down into this and looked at all the politicians that were backing over 100 congressmen and senators that were saying they were going to vote to decertify that election and use the provisions within the Constitution to send that back to those respective states.
to investigate and make their decision on what they were going to do with their electoral votes.
And so we were there, you know, I would say a vast majority, 99.9% of the people who were there were there for those same reasons and that was to have a show of a million people to show those congressmen and senators when they looked out their window and were having to go through and vote and stand up Which was not an easy thing to do, that they had the support of the people there.
This wasn't just, you know, a Donald Trump thing.
I wouldn't have been there if it was just for him.
So that's why I got in my truck with my best friend and a gal that I'd been dating for about 30 days jumped in the vehicle with us last minute.
And we drove through the night and showed up there in the evening on January 5th and started off to the ellipse.
Did she get in trouble?
The one who went with you?
No.
Neither of the two that went with me got in any kind of trouble.
They were in the same area.
Actually, the DOJ tried to turn both of them against me.
They never were able to bring them as witnesses, but they did use her as a reason to lock me up pre-trial.
So I was detained at the D.C. Gulag for a year based on lies that they said.
It was basically, they were using hearsay, and looking back at it, literally she didn't really turn on me.
They just used their questioning of her to claim that I might be a danger to obstruct justice by tampering with her, which had no validity.
That's actually what led to me getting out, was we were able to prove that what they said at the first bond hearing was an utter lie, and the government had no answer to it.
They literally just said, well, we still object to Mr. Mott being released.
But I was one of the only ones that got out of the gulag after being detained.
So selectively using her comments just like they selectively use the video footage, right?
Exactly.
And we've seen that over and over again, especially in political trials.
And I'd covered a lot of political trials.
I went back to the Bundy Ranch and that type of thing.
I knew how they would railroad people that they wanted to get.
And I warned people.
It was listening to me at the time.
He said, don't go to January 6th.
It's a trap.
It's going to be 18 provocateurs.
And I did everything I could to warn people, but I got fired for warning people about that.
But anyway, so you're there January 6th.
So then what happens on January 6th?
So the morning, we showed up there at 6 in the morning, and there was already hundreds of thousands of people that had shown up that early.
It was unbelievable.
So the numbers...
We're drastically bigger than their official narrative of, what, 8,000 to 20,000?
There was a sea of people.
I grew up in the D.C. area, and that's the biggest crowd I've ever seen in D.C. It was monstrous.
And everybody was peaceful.
We were walking around talking with people from all over the country.
Everybody's in a festive mood.
They're playing music, praying, singing.
We're listening to various speakers talk before Trump.
and then Trump came up.
We already all knew we were going to the Capitol, and that's one of the things that they never mentioned in his speech, is that he said, I know that you're planning on going to the Capitol, and we're going to go do the peacefully and patriotically march down there, and that was the plan.
It had always been the plan, and so I listened close to the end of his speech.
We left just before it finished because we were down towards the Capitol end, and it was hard to hear whenever anyone would cheer, so we kind of wrapped it up and started meandering towards the Capitol, stopped for something to eat quick at a food truck, and then walked up towards the Lower West Terrace where and then walked up towards the Lower West Terrace where a bunch of people were gathered, and then quite literally walked into a war zone.
So what did you think about the fact that he didn't go down to the Capitol?
What did you think about that?
I'm not surprised.
Yeah, in retrospect, I mean, to the size of the crowd and what Secret Service would actually have to do to ensure his safety.
It was just unrealistic from a logistics standpoint.
I don't think they really could have made it happen.
I think they made the right call on that because they couldn't have done their job.
There was no way.
So I don't blame him for not going.
I think he wanted to, but you know how the Secret Service works?
That's weeks in preparation.
To ensure the safety.
So they did their job.
What do you think about, you said you struggled with the pandemic and you were upset about that and the fact that BLM was allowed to run riot literally without any of the restrictions on there.
What did you think about that and about the vote by mail and everything?
Because that all happened under Trump.
How did you feel about that?
Yeah, I thought it was another sham.
You know, watching, Trump was in this, Terrible spot, quite frankly, with all of the COVID shutdowns, right?
You know, this was widely being done, you know, by governors, and we saw the disparity in certain states, you know, some that remain pretty much wide open versus ones with these massive lockdowns and, you know, draconian measures.
I was in a state where Walls, you know, definitely here in Minnesota, went pretty draconian.
I'm actually sitting in one of the restaurants that refused to shut down, Larvita McFarquhar.
They tried to put her in a work farm because she refused to bend the knee and kept her business open.
Well, you've seen, though, that the president has a great deal of leverage when it comes to money.
For example, Obama would take away funds if you didn't put boys in the girls' bathroom, and Trump said, I'm going to take away your funds if you do put boys in the girls' bathroom.
So they have a tremendous amount of leverage with money.
If they fund it, they can control it.
And the money was going to all these governors, and regardless of whether they were good or bad, they kept the flow of money going to it.
What do you think about that?
I think we were...
At the time, I think there was a lot of evil at work, and that's being slowly brought to the surface, and I think over the course of the next year or two, we're going to see what was really at play there.
And I think Trump, quite frankly, I think Trump was trying to do the best he could through all that.
I think we were being fed a lot.
I think we were all being, this was all a setup.
I think this was all being used to get Trump.
And whether it came out accidentally or whatever, it definitely was used.
Or if it was just a plan all the way along, I'm not going to go down complete conspiracy theory road because I don't know and neither do most people out in the public.
But I think at the end of the day, yeah, there was mismanagement all the way around.
I think in retrospect with the team he's got around him right now, I don't think that that would happen the same way.
Yeah, I think you'll change it up a little bit and do the same thing.
So we disagree on that, but let's talk about what happened with the aftermath of this, because I think what we both agree on is the criminal actions of the Biden administration, the Department of Justice.
But I've got to say, I've seen this going through, whether it's Democrat or Republican, I've seen this type of stuff happening for the longest time.
I've seen the FBI since its inception doing this kind of politicized persecution.
So this is institutional rot.
That has been there.
It's a bipartisan rot that's been there.
But it's manifested itself in a whole new magnitude with the J6 stuff and the 1,500 or so people that they got and their dragnet.
So let's talk about then when and how you got arrested.
It was about six months later, right?
Five or six months later.
Yep, and let me just real quick...
Oh, we didn't talk about what happened.
Yeah, we didn't talk about what happened.
Yeah, let me hit this, and then I'll do it as quick as possible.
So I'm on the Lower West Terrace, and basically, looking back at video, I showed up roughly a half hour into when, you know, quote-unquote violence occurred.
What really happened that day is there was a group of people that showed up on the Lower West Terrace.
And we're lined up in front of Capitol Police officers, the ones that are trained, clad all in riot gear, and trained to handle crowds of that size, because this happens all the time.
There's protests every week in D.C. So the entire group of protesters were lined up across from the police.
They make it seem like, oh, there's this outer breach of the snow fence, and all of a sudden this group just attacked the Capitol and overwhelmed police.
That wasn't close to what happened.
What they were doing is standing right in front of these officers, big group of people, roughly 3,000 to start, and then everybody else that showed up from the Capitol.
And as they're standing there, they're talking, and this is going on for probably 10, 15 minutes.
Nothing is happening.
And there was one little pushing match between basically three guys.
Who, quite frankly, were probably itching for a fight.
Who knows if they were drunk or otherwise, because out of hundreds of thousands, a million people, you're going to get a few idiots.
But the Capitol Police were handling that.
It was just a little push.
But from up top, the next level on the inaugural stage, the Metro PD was there, and they were ordered to open fire into the crowd.
So they've started shooting rubber bullets and balls down into the cloud.
And you'll see Joshua Black get shot in the face, got a big hole there, there's blood on the ground.
And then the Metro PD comes down and they grab these bike racks out from underneath of the scaffolding and start using those as weapons to shove into people and start pushing the crowd.
This crowd that's coming up from the Capitol and they're shoving back.
And at that point, they started indiscriminately tasing people.
They started throwing flashbangs.
They're beating people.
They're shooting OC spray.
They start throwing tear gas into the crowd.
And basically, we're all stuck in this little fishbowl, and we're all begging the police to stop.
And this goes on for roughly 120 minutes before people are finally...
And that hasn't been shown to the public at all.
You know, you can find bits and pieces online, and those exist, but they literally coerced us into signing a protective order that said that we would not release any of our evidence to the public.
So they scared us with getting more charges if we showed this to the public.
Meanwhile, they cherry-picked anything they could to put out there and show that we were these violent insurrectionists, and that just simply wasn't the fact at all.
So my whole charges stemmed from one push on a shield.
With an officer who I'd actually been leading officers out of this doorway as the Lower West Terrace kind of fell, and I'm patting officers on the back.
I'm communicating with them.
them.
I tried to pick one up off the ground, not be violent in any way, shape, or form, and actually keeping a distance from them, but, you know, keeping pace with them as they're leaving so that they have a little bit of pressure to leave and get out of there, because I've been watching them beat the crap out of old men and women for the last...
last hour and over an hour.
So one officer that I come to after I've led these out, he says something to me, which I honestly do not remember at this point, but my hands go up.
You can see it in the video.
My hands go up and I step back and then he threatened to shoot me and his hand comes off his shield and comes down to his right side.
And instinctively, I just reached out and pushed the shield.
Unfortunately, he was standing on another shield at the time.
His foot slips and he falls down.
Well, to my right is the entire press corps.
So I've got Fox News, CNN, MSN, BBC, all taking video of this.
And then so that push became one of the images of this incredible violence on January 6th.
And I've been saying for years that he threatened to shoot me.
And I actually found the body cam of the guy next to him.
And you can hear, you can't hear the first part, but you hear the end of saying, or I'll shoot.
And that's when, just after that, my hands contact the shield and he slips.
So they literally took that one clip.
It took them five months to build a BS narrative around following me all around the Capitol.
And they took a still-framed picture of my foot off the ground when I had gone down to try to pick up an officer and missed him in this whole melee.
I was trying to pick him up, and I'd pick somebody else up.
But in the process of stepping away from that officer, My foot was up off the ground for a moment because I was slipping on a flagpole, and I put my hand on another guy, and they took the still frame of my foot off the ground and said I'd kick this officer.
And so that's what they used to charge me, to be like, oh, there were multiple counts of violence.
Someone claimed that I was home, and I had said that I was bragging about beating the shit out of six officers, and I was in the Capitol and destroying things.
Well, what they did is they left the in the Capitol and destroying things out of that statement, knowing that I never went in the Capitol and used the, oh, he's at home bragging about beating the shit out of cops as this thing to hold me in jail pre-trial.
So they had initially, when they came and arrested me, I was put in front of the Minnesota magistrate.
She ruled me released, and before they could do that, the DOJ appealed it to the chief judge in D.C. who started screaming at me in court, calling me a leader, holding me single-handedly responsible for making America a laughingstock and claimed there were no conditions that could be holding me single-handedly responsible for making America a laughingstock and claimed there were no conditions that could be placed upon me where the general
And so then I was shackled hand and feet and transported across the country, flown con air into D.C. and thrown into the Gulag.
Wow.
And that started...
That wasn't even the worst.
That started my persecution in this whole thing.
And I've been in places reporting, or I've seen the police do exactly that type of thing.
Initiate the force and start attacking the crowd and that type.
And then, you know, statements going back and forth.
They're yelling that they're going to shoot at somebody.
And then they deny that they yelled that they're going to shoot you with this and so forth.
So I've seen that type of thing.
It's not unusual.
But this is very unusual in terms of how...
How extensive the persecutions were, and how draconian they were, and how unfair they were there in the D.C. Gulag.
So that's what happened from your perspective there, and you also were able to get the footage, and we're going to talk about that coming up.
So they arrest you in Minnesota, they bring you back to the D.C. Gulag, and how long were you there in the D.C. Gulag before your trial?
Well, I was approximately a year pre-trial before a combination of Minnesota getting transferred and being in the Gulag, so I don't know the exact dates, but roughly a year pre-trial, a couple of months in transfer, and then a majority of that year was spent in the Gulag.
They initially threw me in with GenPop.
They were supposed to have us in an individual...
I didn't know any of them existed, and I had been talking with some other guys on the Transport Inn in Oklahoma, and after hearing the story and hearing me talk, they go, well, you're intelligent enough, you can figure this out to represent yourself.
Your lawyer isn't going to help you fire them and proceed pro se.
And I was like, well, that sounds like a terrible idea, but, you know, I'll pray about it.
And I don't recommend it to anyone.
However, in our situation, it actually worked out better that some landscaper from Minnesota was a better lawyer than any single one I could find in the whole process of this.
So I get to D.C., and they threw me in with 120 black guys, told them all I was racist, extremist, and dangerous, and then they opened up the cells and let us mingle.
Oh, great.
So, I figured I was going to die there.
I literally had to fight from day one in there.
I watched people getting stabbed in front of me.
I watched the officers lynch people in there.
They were responsible for murders.
They brought in drugs.
It's one of the worst jails in America.
They were setting up these guys to try to at least beat me, at best, kill me.
Well, let's stop there a second.
You saw somebody lynched in the jail?
Absolutely, multiples.
There was one guy that was killed in a cell next to me just before I showed up, and they still had that taped off, and then they were trying to do it to a young black kid, a 19-year-old, who they hated, and if they hated you, then they singled you out and went after you.
So is this lynching being done by the mob that was in there, the black mob that was there, or was it the guards?
The guards, and the guards would single out certain people they wanted, and they would send...
And so, yeah, I stood up to the guards when they went after this young kid, and they were withholding his seizure medication from him, and they'd get him worked up, and then they'd videotape him getting worked up so they had excuse to pop the cells and go in and beat him up, spray him, and drag him off to the hole.
And so, I stood up to them.
We had some choice words, and we had a little Mexican standoff there.
Between the three of them, and I called them out for being racist.
They didn't know what to make of a white guy calling them racist.
So I'm up there calling them racist and told them to get off killing young black kids.
And the next thing I know, every guy in there is banging on their cells and going off, and the guards' eyes get all big.
Uh-oh, we screwed up on this one.
And so they kind of slink off, and the door closes, and I'm out in the hole.
Well, everybody else is locked up, and all of them are putting their hand through the meal slot, and, hey, I want to shake your hand.
I've never seen a white guy stand up for a black guy like that, and they were calling me a hero and all this stuff.
Like, hey, if that was on YouTube, be famous.
And I'm like, well, does anybody got that on tape?
Because I could use that right now.
And then I asked them, yeah.
Is anybody here going to mess with me?
And they're like, oh, no, you're cool now.
You're just light-skinned.
And the funny thing was, when I told them about the persecution and stuff they're doing, every single one of those guys in there agreed with me because they have been living themselves for how long, and they know what the system is.
So basically, in that time, I thought I was going to die at one point, and I broke down in solitary.
I was in my own cell.
And I just broke down.
I said, God, get me out of here.
And he answered me.
There were two times that God spoke to me in there, and they were both in solitary.
And that was one of them where he answered me, and he said, you have all the talents and abilities to get yourself out.
I was like, huh, that's not the answer.
Send me Superman or a super lawyer.
I'll take either one, but don't put this on me.
And so I stepped out in faith, and two days later I went in and I fired my attorney.
I said, I want to represent myself.
And they brought me back in a week after that for a Ferretta hearing to determine if I was competent and able to defend myself.
And on the way there, I met my first other Jan Sixer, which was Brandon Fellows, the other guy in that gulag who was defending himself or in the process of making that happen.
And so he tells me, hey, we've got this separate pod you're supposed to be in.
So I managed to have a sit-in and get myself there.
And that's when I got the one piece of discovery.
It was 850 pages.
That actually showed a report of DOJ police reports of alleged misconduct.
It was officers who they had alleged had misconduct.
And it wasn't officers that were beating people.
It was the ones that weren't beating people.
They were looking for the quote-unquote inside man of January 6th.
So they were interviewing these ones that were taking pictures with people and fist-bumping and that weren't doing enough to beat them.
These guys were defending themselves, and their own words, their narrative was counter to the entire BS narrative that was put out by the media and the politicians and the DOJ. And so in that, I found that there were 50 of these that were supposed to be there.
But at most, they only gave us 27 of them.
There's 23. There's 27 missing.
And I asked for these repeatedly, and no one would turn them over.
So these were damning, and I put out a motion.
I hand-wrote a motion on paper three times in triplicate, filed it.
It got thrown out, of course, because it didn't make a legal argument.
But my whole point in that, in the last three pages of that motion, was that I said, basically wrote about our conditions.
That I didn't have access to discovery.
They refused to give me my discovery.
They refused to give me access to any legal materials.
They refused to give me access to even call my standby attorney.
They weren't allowing basically anything.
They didn't allow haircuts.
They didn't allow us.
Now, every other inmate had that except us.
We couldn't get haircuts.
We weren't getting basic hygiene.
They were withholding food.
At times, they turned off water in our cells for punitive reasons.
They didn't allow video visits.
They didn't allow lawyers in half the time.
And all I had at one point to defend myself against the full weight and might of the federal government was a pen, a piece of paper, and a pocket constitution that I had traded some food for.
Let me interject.
When you're talking about the fact that you can't get your hair cut, you can't get basic hygiene, these pro-lifers who just got out...
They said they went without toilet paper while they had some trannies that were there, and they were getting lipstick and perfume and all the rest of this stuff.
They didn't even give the pro-life.
I mean, you talk about a politicized system from the courtroom to the jail.
That is the essence of it.
And so, yeah, absolutely.
I'm sure that that happened to you guys as well.
Yeah, it's insane.
The two-tiered justice system is alive and well.
And so we had been fighting with the jail to get our discovery.
It was the biggest thing that we're focused on is just get us our evidence.
And so at one point, I ended up having a kind of a sit-in because I was demanding my evidence.
And a lieutenant came up, ordered me in my cell, and I said, not until I talk to this captain and get my discovery.
It's been, you know, six months or so.
And so in response, this lieutenant ordered everybody else back in their cells, which they did.
I refused.
And because I refused, they sprayed me with OC spray.
She followed me around the entire unit spraying.
So much so, she sprayed herself.
What is OC spray?
What is OC? Basically like bear spray or pepper spray.
They use the really hyped up version, so it's awful.
It was so bad that three guys who were in their cells got overcome by it and had to go to the infirmary.
She called the ERT team after she sprayed me.
They beat me, threw me in solitary, and I sat in solitary confinement for over 100 days because I demanded my discovery.
For those hundred days, I continually went into court and kept telling the judge I don't have my discovery, and the prosecution would say, no, the jail says he has it.
And so the prosecution and the jail were working together because what they wanted was us to sign a plea deal.
I had a 30- to 36-month plea deal on the table.
All I had to do was say that everything they said was true, plead out to something I didn't do, And tell them that Trump made me do it, and I could go to a different jail, I'd go to a different prison, I would get, you know, humanely treated, I'd be taken out of solitary, all that, and I refused to do it.
And so week after week, I'd go in court, and the judge would say, where's your discovery?
I said, I haven't got it.
Prosecutor would say, no, he does have it.
And it got to the point where the general counsel was ordered into my hearing.
And 30 minutes before my Zoom meeting, all of a sudden, a computer shows up with my discovery so that the general counsel could go in there and say, oh, we just got it.
It was human error.
Oopsies.
And so in that hearing, I said, Your Honor, by international standards, anything more than 15 days in solitary is considered torture.
And I ran through the litany of all my civil rights that had been infringed upon.
And the fact that the Constitution...
Didn't exist in my case that I was literally being tortured by our federal government.
And I said, well, you know, more than 15 days by international standards is considered torture and I can continue to be tortured by my government and I don't know how much longer I can hold out mentally because solitary confinement does indeed break you and make you insane.
Or I can take your unfair trial.
Now, you have pushed my trial against my objections.
I've requested a speedy trial from day one.
You've kept pushing that off.
I said, do not do it again.
Set this trial, or I can't endure this treatment anymore.
So he set the trial.
Within 36 business hours, they removed me from solitary and put me back in with the other Jan Sixers.
So then he's going to set a trial.
How long did he give you to take a look at the discovery that you had just gotten?
About 90 days.
I never had the trial at that point.
It ended up getting pushed off for two more years, and that was because I managed to make bond in that time frame.
So I was able to show that the government had lied egregiously in my case at the first bond hearing, and he ended up granting me bond.
Now, the interesting thing is in between these are several months where the government screwed up and actually opened up the evidence.com database, the entire thing.
To those of us who were in the Gulag.
So I was able to see evidence that quite literally nobody has seen.
So much so that when I was looking for legal representation of someone who was representing 20 some odd Jan Sixers, their legal team after about 10 minutes on the phone offered me a job to come in and work for them because they were like, I'd seen more evidence than anybody in the world at that point outside of the DOJ. And we had the protective order.
Which I'm fine saying now, because I'd love the DOJ to come after me at this point.
I went and leaked a bunch of this evidence to the Epoch Times, and that was the story that came out about there being undercovers at Jan 6, and they're identified by this rainbow bracelet on their left wrist.
That led to Christopher Wray having to come back in front of Congress and being like, oh, oopsies, about that whole not having undercovers there, well, we might have had some.
And then it progressed to, you know, oh, well, maybe 20. And some other stories that came out that were a lot of different, there were a lot of different sources that, as this information's kind of trickled in about Jan 6th, the conspiracy that did exist in the setup of January 6th, the day of, and then the subsequent cover-up, all of those things really did stem from information that I was able to smuggle out of the gulag.
How'd you get it out?
On a flash drive.
I downloaded a bunch of stuff that I wasn't supposed to be able to download because they screwed up.
The jail isn't that competent.
They screwed up and gave me the wrong computer that had ability to download, and I downloaded everything that I possibly could.
A couple other guys have done similar things.
Brandon Fellows has more discovery that he downloaded than anybody's seen.
And all of this points to the fact that this was a setup.
I came out day one on the very first podcast I went on and said Nancy Pelosi is directly responsible for what happened on January 6th.
And I stand by that statement at this point.
I actually have further evidence that she conspired with Milley, the FBI, Schumer, McConnell.
There's a number of others that she worked directly with to remove security there.
Basically set, sunned up, the chief of police of the Capitol Police, set him up to be the fall guy because they took all these different agencies that they combined in the lead-up to this and made him responsible for the intelligence, which makes absolutely no sense when you've got the NSA and FBI involved why you would put the Capitol Police chief in charge of this.
And so once you see what happened with that and the pipe bombs that were coincidentally scheduled for 1 o'clock that weren't actually bombs that pulled people away from the Capitol, And the fact that three days before January 6th, when Trump had offered the 10,000 troops that were turned down, she went to Milley at the Pentagon and made a change to how Sund could actually request troops.
He could no longer call Sund directly.
He had to go through the House Sergeant-at-Arms and the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, who answered directly to Pelosi and Schumer.
And so, when Jan 6th, before it ever popped off, while everybody's still in session, Pelosi was the first person removed from the Capitol and moved down to the bowels of the Capitol.
Before anybody talked about a riot, before anybody was called out of session, she was the first one to be removed.
And so when Sun called over to the Pentagon to seek help before anybody ever breached the Capitol building, he was denied and said that they didn't like the optics of sending troops over there to help.
So he went back through the House and Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, which went directly to Pelosi and Schumer, who both denied him access to those troops.
And that continued throughout the day until 530 when they finally brought in troops.
They had exactly what they wanted, wrapped it all up, and had this whole false narrative wrapped up in a nice little meat bow and presented it to the American people and subsequently hid any evidence.
To the contrary, from the American people for the next four years.
And my goal right now is to get an investigation, an actual investigation, in Jan 6. I've got a dozen people who have information that would blow your mind.
And my goal right now, it's why I've been going to D.C. for the last two weeks, is to get in front of Congress and put this information out there so the American people can see what actually happened and who is directly responsible for what happened on January 6. And it will absolutely blow your mind.
It is the single biggest conspiracy in U.S. history.
Well, that's good.
I think that needs to be exposed.
Now, when you got this information from the Access to Discovery database, you were able to smuggle that out.
Was that documents?
I mean, was it video footage of what actually happened?
Was it documents of communications between Pelosi and Milley and all these other people that were there?
How much of that have you put together from other sources, and how much of that was what you got out of the Discovery database?
I brought out documents, a flash drive, which actually a former reporter for the Epoch Times has.
For whatever reason, and I really can't say, I know, but I can't say, she was only able to do two reports on what she had of mine.
So she still has that flash drive that she's shopping around a story right now on this.
So if you go back and find that story about the Metro PD technology, The Electronic Surveillance Unit and the Epoch Times, you'll figure out who that reporter is.
I think it's worth giving her a call and maybe seeing what else she has there because there's some major stories.
So what I was able to get out...
So Epoch Times didn't want to have her do any more than the two stories that she did, is that right?
That's, to my understanding, yes.
And you can investigate why.
Yeah, that's interesting because, you know, the other thing that we were told, and maybe you know more of that, I was under the impression that Tucker was able to get all the video footage and, you know, he's going to have staff that was going to go through it and everything.
That never happened.
What is your understanding of that?
That got shut down as well?
I don't know why, but I have my suspicions there.
The evidence that existed there...
Between that and the open source that was out there on sites like, if you Google what Parler saw on January 6th, these were open source videos.
You put those together with those 14,000, and actually it's more like 24,000 at this point, videos that the government had.
You put those together, there is absolutely no conclusion that you can come to other than the government.
Opened fire on their citizens and were responsible for exactly what happened on January 6th.
But further, if you really go look at it, we had a special ops guy in the DC Gulag, and he said, this is exactly what we did in other countries.
And he was able, because he's trained to do it, to sit there and point out on these videos, here's a team.
Right here, these three guys.
And we were always like, Jeff, you're crazy.
No, there isn't these three guys.
And then we'd watch and see other videos, and all of a sudden we see them interacting with the police and behind police lines and whispering to them and pointing things out.
And you actually, when you go through this, we have found no less than several dozen individuals who are clearly undercovers, who are clearly working with the police, and were clearly orchestrating things.
As well as others who have never been identified that were actually the ones causing damage on January 6th and breaking into the Capitol, a vast majority of these have been, you know, unidentified, but we see them all acting suspiciously.
You know, when we talk to people who work with the government, who've worked at high levels with CIA and things like that, all of them go, this is exactly how we're trained to operate.
This is an operational team right here.
We know it.
So those are things that need to get exposed.
So Tucker absolutely dropped the ball on this, at the very least.
I think there potentially was something more nefarious going on with that, but, you know, that's conjecture, and I just won't go down.
Well, I think so, too.
I mean, you look at it, and it's like, clearly, you know, Pelosi and these others were up to something.
I think, though, that it's not simply just the Democrats that were doing it.
I think there's a lot of people...
And the Republicans' side that have been participating in this as well, I think there was a lot of Republican media that was doing it.
I think there was a lot of alternative right media that stopped the steal people, and I think it was enticing people to go in it.
And so I, you know, from the very beginning of this, I was opposing this.
I could see this happening with the people that I was working with.
I was working with Alex Jones at the time.
I knew what Stop the Steal was about.
I knew the lies that they were putting out there two days after the election, saying that It was a sting in that they already had 20,000 troops out there arresting people.
It's like, there's no way that's happening.
And you're setting people up because you want to make money out of this thing.
So there's a lot of people that had their hands in this pie.
And it's not just Democrats.
It's Democrats and Republicans.
And it's not just the Democrat media that was setting people up using cherry-picking stuff, as you talk about, clips.
But it was also the Republican media and the alternative media that set people up and all this stuff.
So it's a really big ball of wax.
And so I hope you're able to unravel some of this and expose some of this for the public.
You know, again...
I'm not surprised at all that there were teams of agent provocateurs, and I said that for months prior to that, and the day of I was telling people, stay away, there's going to be agent provocateurs there.
But what has happened in the aftermath of that is equally troubling, because...
of the torture that we see that's happening there.
And I've seen that again in many cases.
Whenever you go up against the government and you blow the whistle on something or you are trying to establish a constitutional principle that they've run roughshod over, they will run roughshod over you for trying to expose that.
So I've seen that over and over again with various issues.
But then tell us a little bit about the trial that was there.
What was it like representing yourself?
Because a lot of times people represent Yeah, so in the two years up to my actual trial,
which was in summer of 23, June and June and bled into July, there was a break in there about two weeks, but my attorney literally, the court-appointed attorney I got, About a little less than, I want to say, like six to seven months before my actual trial.
This guy offered no defense.
He had no witnesses, no evidence, even though I had given him a ton.
And his whole defense was to put me on the stand and let me talk, which wasn't actually the worst thing in the world, but he had said 999 times out of 1,000, he wanted the judge to know as little about his client as possible.
He said I was the one exception where he wanted the judge to know as much about me as possible.
So for whatever good that is, I took it as a compliment.
But then he got into trial, and he just crapped the bed so hard in a day and a half that I finally, he lied about me in front of the judge.
And I had to, he had already done his damage.
I lost the ability to cross-examine some people that should have happened.
I wish I had dumped him day one.
But I stood up in court, fired him, and then represented myself.
I flew in all my own witnesses on my own dime that night, pulled together whatever evidence I could quickly, pulled some witnesses off the street.
And jumped in the next day.
I knew if I got through the end of the day and didn't rest that I would have a two-week period because the court was booked.
I'd have a two-week period to put together some more evidence, come back in, and put together some semblance of a case.
So I got my kid on the stand, an ex-girlfriend on the stand, and Tommy Tatum, of all people, was in town, and I put him on the stand.
But what we ultimately were able to do was for the first time we got on the record that Roseanne Boylan was murdered.
By U.S. Capitol Police Officer Lila Morris.
And that had been, every single time that that was, someone wanted that brought on the record, it got shut down by the government.
And my case was the first one that that got on.
So that was kind of cool.
And then just the process of, it was actually kind of fun up there trying to defend myself.
And to his credit, my judge was actually pretty cool with me.
And I think after a while of three years of watching this, because what the government did is when I turned down their 30 to 36 month plea deal, they went and got a superseding indictment.
So they tacked on the 1512 obstruction, a bogus, deadly and dangerous obstruction charge, a deadly and dangerous assault, and then another bogus assault, just to fluff it all up.
And so I went from a 30 to 36 month sentencing guideline range to like 20 years.
And all my misdemeanors were enhanced to felonies.
So I rolled into court with 12 felonies, beat the one deadly and dangerous charge because it was a joke.
I was getting hit with a flagpole and I reached up and a piece broke off in my hand and I tossed it out of my hand into an area where nobody was.
So the judge, to his credit, literally laughed it out of the courtroom.
Did you have video evidence of that?
Yeah.
And so it was just a joke.
But that was what they were doing.
What they were trying to do is go, hey, if you turn down our plea deal, The word was to everybody else, if you turn down a plea deal, you go, look at Mr. Mock, you went from 30 to 36 months up to 20 years.
We will crush you if you don't take the deal.
And they do that all the time.
That's why we don't have jury trials anymore.
Exactly.
Everybody caves to that because that's been a standard operating procedure.
It's part of the corruption of the DOJ from the top to the bottom.
100%.
And that's what you see when I went into prison, because I got found guilty.
It was crazy.
I proved that the kick never happened.
The cop that they brought on the stand said he couldn't say if he had been kicked.
And then my lawyer, before I fired him, showed a picture of a guy who was standing closer to him than me.
And he said, well, if you were kicked, which you say you don't know if you were, if you were, which one of these guys might have been the guy to do it?
He looked at me, looked at the picture, looked back at me, looked at the picture, and picked the other guy.
So he couldn't pick me out of a two-man lineup in court, couldn't say if he'd been kicked, and then I proved I would have had to have been 12 feet tall to have actually kicked him, and I was still found guilty of an assault.
This should give you some idea of how bogus these charges were and what a sham the actual trials were.
Yeah, I've known people that had competent lawyers, and they were just amazed at how rigged this whole process was.
And that's the whole point of bringing everybody back to D.C. So, you know, this guy might have been incompetent, but the whole thing was rigged anyway, as you found out.
And so they found you guilty.
Now, you had the re-sentencing stuff based on this 512 obstruction thing.
That was overturned by the Supreme Courts.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is extremely important because what I found when I got into prison was that the first Step Act that Trump signed into law back in 2018 allowed for prisoners, low-level prisoners, who qualified as a low recidivism level, which I did and most of the Jan Sixers did.
That you could earn up to 15 days off your sentence for every month that you would program.
Now, the programs were just classes.
Idea being you get rehabilitated, but the prison's got more money for every person that successfully took these classes.
Well, long story short is over the six years, they had not been applying those credits properly.
So they were illegally holding people in prison longer than they should have.
Colette Peters was the director of the BOP, came into court in the summer, or in front of Congress, and came up with a litany of excuses as to why they weren't applying this, because people had been complaining.
But they wouldn't allow them to actually show up in court to argue it.
What they would do is force them to go through an internal BOP process.
So by the time that it would get to the courts, if someone hadn't been released yet, the courts would simply shut it down.
And so nobody was able to bring it to court for the last six years.
So what I did is I knew my judge wasn't going to give me time off for the 1512 because he had said so at sentencing.
I only got 33 months when the DOJ was asking for 10. He actually came back to the original plea deal.
He was actually asking for 10 years, right?
10 years.
Yeah, and I got 33 months.
So my judge was actually kind of, he praised me a lot in court, which was amazing.
Meanwhile, finding me guilty.
Let me ask you, was this a judge?
Who was he appointed by?
Well, initially, he got to the bench through Bush, but Obama appointed him as federal judge.
He wasn't a fan of Trump's by any stretch of the imagination, but I think I kind of won him over in the process.
Everybody said that it sounded like he liked me, and he sat there and really praised me in court.
And the fact that he came back to where the original plea deal was, the original sentencing guideline range, he basically overlooked the entire 1512, the bogus other charges that they brought, and he said, really, it's this one charge that I'm looking at.
And he said, you know, more or less, I'm not going to tax you for having gone to court.
And through trial, I'm going to give you this 33 months.
So what I did with that, though, is I had been fighting for my FSA credits, and I kept getting jerked around by the BOP. Well, what I figured out is there was two separate databases that they were creating, one that I would see as an inmate and my case manager, which was the true FSA credits we were earning.
But then there's another database that they created that the DOJ, the judges, and probation would see, or anybody else on the outside that would care to look.
And they were not applying credits properly.
So, again, what would happen is you think you're ready to go to a halfway house, and then all of a sudden they say, oh, no.
You still got another year.
And then people would start losing their mind.
Well, most inmates don't know how to fight this, and they count on that.
Those that do would end up getting shut down, and no courts would hear it.
So I piggybacked off the 1512 getting overturned by the Supreme Court.
And so I figured out real early on, I'm not going to be able to get in front of this judge.
I ran through my internal remedies, which take about four to six months to do.
Got denied on all of them or ignored, kept my paperwork, and so when I went into court on the 15-12, I backdoored it and argued the FSA. And so what happened in court was extremely important because I had paperwork that showed that I should have been out November 4th.
This is January 3rd, so I was already two months overdue for having should have been released.
The DOJ came in and argued that I shouldn't even be released until the summer.
And then when the judge asked the Minnesota probation, probation agreed with my math, which was the legal correct amount, and that I should have already been released.
So then the DOJ says to the judge, you don't have jurisdiction here, Your Honor.
And I'm sitting back going, well, I didn't go to law school, but that doesn't sound like how you start off an argument with a judge.
I'm like, I'm going to go home in a couple hours.
I'm like, keep it up, buddy.
So he starts that off and he says, you don't have jurisdiction.
This is an internal BOP bureaucratic issue.
You sentence on the 1512. Mr. Mock is not arguing the 1512. He's arguing these FSA bureaucratic issues.
And I was like, yeah, no kidding, buddy.
You just figured that out.
I've been planning this for the last six months.
Welcome to the chess game.
And so he criticizes me.
And meanwhile, I'm sitting back laughing, like, yeah, and it's going to work, too.
So for the first time, this gets hurt in court.
And the DOJ said this, Your Honor, while our heart goes out to Mr. Mock and his plight.
Sure it does.
If you went throughout the BOP, you would find out that Mr. Mock is not unique in this situation.
There would be literally thousands of men who are being held and are dealing with the same bureaucratic issues with the BOP. And if you rule on this, Your Honor, it will open a Pandora's box to where these inmates can now seek relief through the courts.
And for that reason, you cannot rule on this.
The judge did, in fact, rule.
He ruled in my favor and gave me time served on the 3rd, and I had to sit in a hotel room for 17 days waiting for my pardon so that I could come back to Minnesota because Minnesota wouldn't allow me back in the state.
So that was heard.
I've talked to lawyers since then, and the fact that the DOJ knew that the BOP was illegally holding people in prison that long, that they colluded with them and conspired to keep those people in there and to keep it away from the courts, and that the judges, Had subsequently not allowed any of these into court, which they should have.
There is a massive, massive class action suit that should be brought because this is tens of thousands of people who have been illegally held in prison.
This was on a law that had bipartisan support through the House and Senate and was signed into law by Trump.
So there are, most assuredly, I cannot wait for Doge to get involved into this one and start digging this up.
And I've actually been in contact with some people who work directly with Elon Musk's lawyers, and I'm fully expecting that when I go back into D.C. that I'll be having those conversations, because I'm sitting here right now with the paperwork in my hands that proves That the DOJ, that the BOP has been illegally holding people in prison.
And now that it's been admitted, they said the quiet part out loud for the first time ever in court.
It's amazing.
I really think it's a God thing that I lined up to be able to do this.
And now I've got the ear of some very powerful people.
So you got the transcript.
You got the transcript of what they said in court.
And they admitted to this in court.
So that's great.
You've got them dead right.
Yeah.
So moving forward, that's going to be very important.
And again, they're just kind of a law under themselves, and they don't care what the law is.
They've got their own little fiefdom, and they do whatever they wish with that.
So, at this point now, you got out, let's see, that was January the 3rd.
You said they made you stay there for another 17 days?
Is that it?
I stayed in a hotel room for 17 days waiting to get pardoned.
I actually got to go back up to the jail and reunite the one other Jan Sixer I was in there with his mom.
He hadn't seen her in two and a half years.
So, I got to drive him up.
But you got out just before the pardons from Trump then.
So around the 20th or whatever like that.
Just before he became president, you got out.
Well, that's amazing because we've seen a lot of stories about people.
You know, you're talking about keeping people in prison.
We've seen a lot of stories about how they move people all over the country.
You know, knowing that they're going to get pardoned and get let out by Trump.
They move them to remote areas and these guys, you know, don't have any way to communicate with people.
So I've seen a lot of desperate stories about that as well.
There's still five locked up, so until those five get released, we're still fighting on behalf of Jan Sixers.
Why are those five locked up?
There were other charges that they brought against them based on...
Most of it was, I think all of them, quite frankly, were basically Fruit of the Poisonous Tree.
It was stuff that they came up with when they went and raided their houses.
A few of them were...
They had previous felonies, and they hit them with possession of a firearm or ammunition, even though they were in houses that weren't their houses.
It was their brother that had a gun, a rifle, and there was some ammo that didn't match the rifle.
So it was trumped up stuff, really.
And then Jeremy Brown's is one of the worst.
Dive into his case.
It's a conspiracy like you wouldn't believe.
The FBI set him up for their own reasons.
And they hit him with some garbage charges.
So they need to be released.
Until that happens, we're going to keep fighting.
And then, obviously, fighting for the truth.
But, you know, I've been around the country since then.
I jumped in a truck with my girlfriend, and we've literally been videotaping, meeting other Jan Sixers.
You can find me on X at Brian Mock, P-P-O-W, like Political Prisoner of War.
And check out some of our stories.
If you want to help keep some gas in the tank, my give-and-go, help Brian Mock.
That's how I'm living right now.
They literally wipe me out.
This has cost me about a million dollars, my career, my family, my dogs.
I've got my truck left and what other people can stick in a storage unit.
Any bit helps.
I appreciate that.
I'll keep fighting.
my goal right now is to get this to happen in dc because until this story gets told right i'm i'm going to keep screaming about it anywhere i can and that's the key thing you know the the the uh how this messes your life up you know the fact that even though you're out and of course you you did your time but it's important the pardon was still important to you because that restores a lot of rights that you would not have even if you had finished your time
but it's just the disruption that it does to your life is just horrific uh and um and to look at how this i hope that you're able to with these people, be able to put something together to I know how the new cycle is.
People, something else happens and everybody runs off to that and they forget what had happened before.
But this has been going on for a long time.
It's a deep wound to a lot of people.
So I hope you really do get this out and get this before people.
It's important.
And there's a lot going on the last couple weeks, so I get the distraction.
Yeah, that's right.
A couple of comments here from listeners.
Angry Tiger says, people don't understand the Bureau of Prisons can do what they want, pretty much.
They can even ignore judges' orders, except when it comes to release.
But they played all kinds of games with these J6ers as well at the end.
M. Sellers says, cruel and unusual punishment is against the law.
How can we follow up?
After these J6ers and get some of this taken care of.
Has there been any, you know, when you talk to Doge and Musk and all these other people, I mean, you know, some people have pointed out that Merrick Garland was not pardoned.
There are a lot of prosecutors who are not pardoned.
There's a lot of judges, I think, who need to be impeached with this stuff.
So, I mean, hopefully that is on the menu of actions that people need to take.
Has there been any discussion about that?
When I was in D.C., I spoke with Marjorie Taylor Greene's office, met with her briefly, but her chief of staff had indicated that there is, and actually a couple other chief of staffs had indicated that there have been talks of investigation.
Barry Loudermilk's office is handling that.
So I would encourage everybody to call to Barry Loudermilk's office.
Not necessarily my favorite politician in the world, but we'll see where it goes with that.
It seems like it's going to fall on him to do something with this, and I think everybody needs to be calling his office, emailing, demanding that we Jan Sixers...
Not that I'm the end-all, be-all of the information on Jan 6, but I have a group of guys who've been living and breathing for four years.
They need to be talking to me, and that's one of the things I'm going back to D.C. this next week to try to make happen.
That solves all of it.
You know, if we tell the real truth of what happens and they see the evidence, the impeachment of judges, the DOJ, the FBI, the BOP, all of this happens as a result of us being able to tell our stories and show the truth.
And that's all we've ever asked for.
Roughly 1,600 of us, all of us to a man or woman has said we don't care about any of the other things.
All we want is the truth to come out.
And so when you've got a government who's hidden all this for years and we're saying just we'll trade all of the torture and all of the abuse and all of the loss to simply expose the system.
So that this never happens again, because it can and will happen again.
We are not unique in this situation.
Oh, it's happened over and over again, hiding exculpatory evidence that would show somebody who's innocent.
That is a hallmark of all the stuff, the trumped-up charges that they add to people to get them to plead with it.
I've got one question here from a listener.
It says, David, can you ask your guest if he regrets going to D.C. over an election instead of going there for a government and administration that didn't respect our rights during COVID? Somehow that's been whitewashed.
What would you say about that?
Well, I really did both, because I fought against walls in the process.
But, yeah, no, I don't regret a thing.
Actually, I'm quite honored at the fact that the government was so threatened by a landscaper in Minnesota that they had to come after me to absolutely destroy me, throw me in a hole, and torture me, and deprive me of all my constitutional rights.
I did warn them, though, when I first represented myself pro se and went to my very first Zoom meeting, I stood in front of the...
The prosecutor and the FBI agent and I said, you arrested the worst person on January 6th and not for what I did because there will come a time when you rue the day that you ever heard my name if you do not drop these charges and got up and walked out of the meeting.
And that day is coming very soon where they are going to rue ever hearing my name.
So, no, I am totally honored.
I am blessed.
I don't think you meant about that, but I think you meant about the fact that these people are not going to pay a price.
I wish they would rue the day that they locked us down and did the rest of the stuff, because I think we're going to have another shot at that.
I think the next time they do this, we need to have some pushback against it.
But it's kind of strange to me that throughout the world, as this was happening everywhere around the world, it wasn't just in America.
It was a global agenda.
And as it was happening, the only place where people really pushed back was in Canada, that trucker rally.
And that was a hallmark protest, I think.
The way they did it, they did it peacefully, and they tried to smear them in every way possible, and they got so desperate that they jumped in and started taking financial moves against people, and that really exposed them.
So it worked out even better when they did that, because they showed who the real villains were and all that.
But tell us why.
We're about to run out of time.
We've got about 30 seconds left.
Tell us again where people can find you and how they can help you.
Yeah, on X, at Brian Mock, P-P-O-W, and then my Give, Send, Go is Help Brian Mock.
That'd be awesome.
Also, check out my song.
I wrote a song for my kids when I was in prison, came out, got it recorded.
If you go to YouTube and look up Brian Mock music, it's called The Stand.
The Give, Send, Go that's on there isn't current, but hit mine up if you can.
I appreciate any support.
It literally is helping me in this fight right now.
To make sure this gets exposed.
And actually my girlfriend has fought against the COVID stuff.
She's one that's out there fighting to expose those who were involved in the COVID and the draconian shutdown.
So between the two of us...
The government really hates us, and we will make sure we fight until we get to the bottom of all of it, I assure you.
Yeah, we can't just walk away and say, okay, well, it's over.
We've got to get some response out of this stuff for all these things that were done to us over the last five years or so.
Thank you so much for joining us, Brian, and best wishes for you getting your life together.
And we're all hoping that you're going to be able, with the other people, to get some exposure and to get some justice, and most importantly, to get some reform, because this stuff is...
It's been going on for a long time.
It's just this thing festered out in the biggest way that we've seen so far, and we need to pull this in before it happens again, because it will if we don't pull it in.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Absolutely.
Thanks for having me on.
Thank you.
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