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Nov. 14, 2024 - The David Knight Show
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INTERVIEW Tony Arterburn, What's Going on with Bitcoin and Gold
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All right, joining us now is Tony Ardaban of Wise Wolf Gold, and Tony has kindly set up davidknight.gold to take you to his website and let him know that you're coming through us.
And it is a very interesting time for gold.
We have seen this stuff skyrocket over a couple of months, hitting all-time highs every other day.
Now the same thing is happening with Bitcoin, and gold is going down.
And so I wanted to get Tony's take as to what is happening in the overall market.
Thank you for joining us, Tony.
Always great to be here, David.
Gold hit its all-time high 35 times this year, and now it's pulled back.
Let's see what its spot price right now for gold.
But we pulled back into 2,571.
Luciferian Bankster knows, make a troy ounce of the yellow metal.
And again, we talked about this on Halloween, two weeks ago, about election outcomes.
This is all psychological.
Yes.
I think if there had been a Harris administration, gold would probably be at 2,800 right now and climbing.
Silver would be probably close to 40 right now.
And Bitcoin would be pulled back into the 55,000 range or so.
That's what I predicted.
I agree with you.
Yeah, because it was clear that Harris and the Democrats are going to go to war with crypto.
They've been doing that.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I think there's just been status quo, but this is the unknown, and I think the psychological effect of a Trump victory and a Trump administration, it's funny, the underlying fundamentals, though, that's what you've got to remember.
All that's still there.
The dollarization, the fiscal house that's on fire, the global tensions, all the things that drive the price of gold are all still there, but we have this temporary low, and if you look at Most market analysis right now, they're saying, well, gold's still going to be climbing to, you know, $2,800 into $3,000 into next year.
That's all still predicted.
But we have to get through this little phase that people are in right now.
The markets are in a phase.
I do think that Bitcoin fundamentally is reflecting true price.
I think we're probably getting closer to that.
And that really has to do with the amount of Bitcoins that exist, David.
A lot of people say, well, there's 21 million Bitcoin.
Well, actually, there's not.
There's only 16 million if you take into account the millions that are lost and will never be recovered or Satoshi's wallets.
I think that the Bitcoin price is probably not too much of a hype, but I think it's hitting faster than it would have been under a Harris win.
So we're just post-election...
This is all psychological, moving the markets, and I just tell people, this is a time to look at bargains.
When you look at the silver price right now, David, it's $30.44.
I bought a lot of silver in the last few weeks, and it's hurting right now because I've got to sell a lot of silver that I bought.
It's bought $33, $34 that I'm still holding.
So we're cutting into a little bit of my problem.
That's just the game that you play when you're in the precious metals business.
But fundamentally, the price of silver shouldn't be this cheap.
And honestly, neither should gold.
All the things that drove the prices prior to the election are still there.
So it is a time for bargains.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you said, all the fundamentals that were causing gold to go up, it wasn't going up because of madness of crowds and popular delusions.
It was going up because of the fundamental things that were there.
And it had been a long-term thing.
It was just starting to come up a little bit faster.
So it's a rate at which things change.
And I think when you talk about Bitcoin, as you pointed out, it's not only just the expectation of what Trump is going to do and people around him like Lutnik, but it's also the fact that it's after, you know, was it six months after they did their halving thing, you know, or they cut it in half.
So there's some things like that that are happening there as well.
But I think you're seeing a lot of people looked at gold and said, hey, it's that...
All these all-time highs and it looks like everybody's jumping on the bandwagon for crypto so we can cash out of gold and jump on the crypto market, I think.
That's really lovely.
Yeah, I look at it as it's Black Friday early.
Yeah, you texted me that.
That's true.
It's Black Friday early, and all this is really, just fundamentally, it's profit-taking.
People that held positions in a lot in the paper markets, especially for bullion and contracts, they liquidated those contracts after the election results to put it back into the market.
And a lot of that's flowing into crypto.
So the outflows are really coming out of the gold ETFs.
The inflows are going into the Bitcoin ETFs.
And that's the way it's going to be probably until first quarter of 2025.
But I think, again, when the dust settles, the fundamentals will come back.
We'll still see the BRICS nations advancing their cross-border payment systems.
Gold really is the reserve currency of the world now, even though it's still king dollar, but you see de-dollarization happening.
And, again, that's, I think, really built into the narrative here is to pay attention to what really is and not what the markets are telling you.
I think this is just temporary.
Yeah, when you look at Lutnik, who is the co-chair, you know, it's interesting.
The other co-chair of the transition team for Trump is the wife of McMahon, the guy that did the WWE wrestling thing.
Vince McMahon.
What's his name, McMahon?
Vince McMahon, yeah.
Yeah, McMahon, yeah.
What a joke.
Anyway, I guess during the transition period, that's where you see the presidents change into a dress or whatever, you know, change their clothing.
They have a transition period.
They turn into something completely different.
They identify as a different gender, maybe, or as a different political party.
Anyway, so he's there, and he's been a big advocate, as I'm sure you saw, who was at Nashville, making the case for the government to own crypto as reserve, and also saying that it should be given the treatment that precious metals get that should be treated as and also saying that it should be given the treatment that precious metals get that should be And so with all that stuff that's there, that is, I think, a lot of what is driving it.
Now, as we look ahead, though, and we look at the fundamentals, and you look at Lutnik and what he's been involved in at Cantor Fitzgerald, he was the king of ESG. And he's now, because there was a competition back and forth between Bessner and another guy, I can't remember his name, and the other guy dropped out.
And so now Lutnik has put his name in the hat for Treasury Secretary.
So we've got a choice between a kind of a Larry Fink ESG guy and Soros' right-hand man.
Those are great choices.
Yeah, what do you think is going to happen to the deficit and all the rest of the stuff in the Trump administration?
And that's where the fundamentals are, right?
Well, absolutely.
And, you know, Larry Fink of BlackRock has been a huge advocate of the Bitcoin ETFs.
I mean, really, they started it and has been pushing it behind the scenes.
He's also anti-gold.
If you notice, there's comments that have come out over the years.
Larry Fink is criticizing developing nations for gold mining and gold activities and things and getting away from the dollar and the traditional financial system.
It's interesting.
I think that, again, Bitcoin's being pushed by, and you have to just kind of shrug and take this with the information with what you will, because, again, I was in Nashville, too.
I watched that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
talking about, you know, if he was elected president, he would order the Treasury to buy 500 Bitcoin a day until it hit about 18% of the world's Bitcoin reserves.
Trump followed and said that he would make Bitcoin a strategic reserve asset for the United States.
That's what the Bitcoiners call game theory, where around the world other nations start hoarding Bitcoin and using it as a strategic reserve asset.
I do agree with that.
I think that that's one way that you can do it electronically.
But forgetting about precious metals and forgetting about the role that gold has played throughout history, I think is really short-sighted.
And it may be a head fake, along with JPMorgan Chase and what they've done with silver, shorting the silver market over the years.
And you go dig a little deeper and you find out that JPMorgan Chase is the largest holder of silver in the world.
Why would they short the silver market?
Why would they want to make the price go down?
What's about accumulation?
So again, this might be just a blind spot, a head fake.
You can put a lot of people into Bitcoin.
It's easy to accumulate.
It's easy to get.
It's electronic.
But I don't think that it will supplant gold's role as a reserve currency in the world.
I just don't see that.
I think, again, history...
Is our guide here.
There's something, there's a role that precious metals have in the story of humanity.
And I don't think that's going to go away.
It'll be a part.
And I think Bitcoin, if it continues on this trajectory, David, and it's interesting to watch, if it continues on this, it will have, I think, a rollout that will, I think, exceed a lot of expectations of even people that have been in the Bitcoin space since 2016, like I have.
I'm really surprised.
I said earlier on previous shows, I think $100,000 Bitcoin was in range by the end of the year.
I think we're going to reach that.
We were at $92,000 and some change yesterday, just within striking distance of $100K for Bitcoin.
Again, it's just about supply.
It's about what's moving into the ETFs and about liquidity, and that will drive price.
How long will it last?
I don't know.
I think a lot of this is just market euphoria.
Based on, again, just based on psychology.
Nothing else.
Nothing changed on November 5th except the expectation that there will be different policies in January.
We'll see.
I agree.
And I think what concerns me, and I talked about this on Monday, is the different policies in terms of the green stuff.
And so we see Musk, who became the world's richest man by exploiting this green nonsense, greenwashing everything.
We see Luknick, who is part of the ESG stuff, and we see that both of them have been very involved in carbon taxes.
And the kind of thing that I see developing with all this, and I see, and of course, they've even talked about incorporating a side, what is it, side chain or something of Bitcoin in order to track some of these things.
I see this as a way for them to essentially usher in A public-private partnership for CBDC. Because if they can start to sell carbon credits, if they can process carbon taxes.
And, of course, all these guys that are on the financial side with Trump, they're heavily involved in the carbon capture markets, the carbon taxes, and all the rest of the stuff.
And this is a way for them to, on the side, as Elon Musk has said, he's looking at X as being something to process half of the world's financial transactions.
He said money, whatever that happens to be.
Well, that could be carbon credits.
It could be anything like that.
And so, to me, it seems like these guys are coming together.
seems like these guys are coming together they've got some kind of a tokenized etf scam on the side here some kind of derivative thing that i'm very concerned about and and so when i look at all this it's not just that it's a bubble thing because we you know we look at the fundamentals as you said nothing has really changed but the thing that concerns me is um the fact that they want to tokenize this stuff they want to create derivatives
They've got some kind of a tokenized ETF scam on the side here, some kind of derivative thing that I'm very concerned about.
And so, when I look at all this, it's not just that it's a bubble thing, because we look at the fundamentals.
As you said, nothing has really changed.
and these guys who are running um all of these things that are part of the expectation are people who were kind of piggybacking on the in-your-face prohibitions from the biden administration saying you're not going to be allowed to have anything other than electric appliances electric cars electric heat electric air conditioning all the rest of the And people say, no, I don't want that.
It can't work.
So then what do they do?
They come in and say, we can have anything that you want, but you have to pay me an indulgence fee.
You have to pay me a carbon tax in order to do that.
And we've got the mechanism right here with all of this crypto stuff.
That's what concerns me.
Did somebody say Hegelian dialectic?
Sounds like that's what's happening, isn't it?
We have a thesis, we present the antithesis, and we have synthesis.
And that's really what's happening here.
I don't think it's a thesis.
I think it's feces is what it is.
Even better.
But you're right.
And nothing, again, the technocracy knows no party.
Understand that you're inside the 2030 agenda decade.
That's right.
They've been pushing since the opening in this decade.
I'll never forget, you know, I opened up your show at the beginning of this decade and it was, I mean, fireworks right off the bat.
Trump had assassinated The General Soleimani, the Iranian general, the hashtag was World War Three's right prior to COVID-19.
We have not, the pace has not slowed down since then.
All these rollouts, and of course we got the left-right paradigm in this country.
Again, the fundamentals For all the reasons that you and I talk every Thursday about finances and parallel economies and being outside the system, all of that is still there.
It just comes in a different guise.
It's coming in a different face, a different form.
And it could be public-private partnerships, which again, fascism is exactly what that is.
So I don't trust any of these people.
You know, David, I'm concerned with...
Those who went out and voted, and I said this on my show on Halloween two weeks ago, I said the most important thing out of this election, if there is a difference, it's going to be in foreign policy.
If Trump really means what he says about staying out of these wars, it'll come out of personnel as policy.
Well, then he nominates this Hegseth guy from the Fox News comic.
If you look into what he said, and you've played these clips of him talking about...
Vladimir Putin being so, you know, pro-Ukrainian and other things.
I mean, echoes of neocons, of, you know, kind of a Donald Rumsfeld-ish approach in so many ways.
I've listened to a lot of his commentary.
I don't agree with him.
And it seems to me we're signaling, if I'm looking at this cabinet pick and what's being rolled out, it looks to me like we are preparing for some sort of kinetic conflict.
That's my take.
That's right.
And I think so...
Waltz as well.
Ratcliffe as well.
Hegseth.
All these guys, you know, big, belligerent.
I mean, they sound like Lindsey Graham when you listen to these people.
And I think, you know, it was already in the cards pretty much that we're going to join Israel with a war against Iran.
So that certainly has escalated to all this stuff.
But then the question is, you know, they've made real belligerent statements about China, all the rest of the stuff, even with Ukraine.
There might be some kind of a brokered peace deal, but if not, they're going to go much heavier into the Russian war.
And I think that if you've got war on the horizon, I think that then argues in favor of gold.
Historically, it has.
Right.
And that's why I think a lot of this stuff is just still on sale.
These countries, the BRICS nations especially, that are wanting to get away from the dollar system, not even war, I think, is going to stop those cross-border payments and trade systems and being outside of sanctions.
You know, nothing really...
I mean, Gerald Salente is right.
When all else fails, they take you to war.
But that looks like what is happening.
I mean, they're planning it.
I don't think it stops the de-dollarization.
All the fundamentals are still there.
You know, they're just setting up a – this is a different regime, different operation, same goals.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
The value of Russia's gold reserves hits a historic high.
They're not changing what they're doing based on the election.
They don't see any change of that.
They're going to continue down the same path.
It hit a historic high in October.
The share of gold's international reserves for Russia went up to 33%.
They said the value of gold holdings grew by almost 4% just last month.
Breaking the record that was set in September.
I think that, like you said, BRICS, Russia, China, others, they're going to continue to, the central banks especially, going to continue to go into gold.
And so that type of thing is what we've seen driving this in the past.
None of the fundamentals in terms of debt and inflation, in terms of war, none of that has changed.
I think the amount of Russian gold, I think it was at 200 billion, is it like 32% of holdings?
It's like 200 billion is the number that they're holding.
And, you know, if you dig a little deeper into the holdings of gold by these central banks, David, what you'll find is a great majority of them are still evaluating based on the Bretton Woods Agreement of 1944.
It's still $35 an ounce.
They have not re-evaluated.
I think they're holding weighting For the Great Reset.
That's what they're doing.
They're waiting to re-evaluate all of their precious metals, their commodities, their holdings.
Another story that you and I have covered before, and I was speaking with Andy Sheckman from Miles Franklin a couple weeks ago, and I said, I go, what do you think about this story with the Russian government?
And it was only covered in a few outlets, but they started putting silver as a reserve asset on their books and accumulating.
He said it's one of the biggest stories of our time.
And I thought the same thing.
It's going to change pricing.
It's going to change the way that we look at precious metals.
And again, that's the whole point of BRICS. The point of BRICS is not, in my opinion, not to...
Create a competing currency against the United States dollar.
It's to reprice and reevaluate all commodities.
And then that starts with gold, and that will reset all of their currencies.
You know, there's 52 times more currency on Earth today than when I was born, so in 1979.
That's how, and again, we're just inflating our way out of it.
Nothing changes.
The fundamentals are all still there.
And we can float for a little while, and you'll see prices go up and down, and they'll be all over the place.
But in the long run, gold wins.
I think gold wins this game, especially in this decade.
There's no escaping it.
They tell you what they're doing.
They're doing a great reset.
That's what they're signaling.
We're five years out from their milestone and their goal of 2030, and all those things that we talk about every week are still there.
That's right.
I look at it, and when you look at Bitcoin, gold, and silver, all of that is a reaction to the creation of fiat currency.
And yet, the other thing, and of course, the cycles that are there, the debt cycles and all the rest of the stuff that they have built up.
But what is different for the physical metals is that it gets you out of what I believe is being set up as this technocratic trap.
I think it's a net, it's a web, it's all these different things they talk about.
And I don't want to be caught up in that.
I want to go in the opposite direction from anything that can be used to surveil or to control me.
And of course, Bitcoin is, when you look at what these people are using with it, that's my concern about it.
They're still projecting, you know, Bitcoin and $150,000 or something like that.
I see a projection here from Brian London.
Gold price has room to hit $8,000 this bull cycle as the Fed deals with the next crisis.
And again, this is the crisis once people realize that everything has not been solved by this election, by putting Trump in.
That's the naivety of this madness of this crowd.
That's the popular delusion.
The 3D chess, the three levels of delusion that we've got with this stuff.
That's the popular delusion.
Okay, it's a whole new world.
And everything is solved now because Trump won an election.
And as you've been pointing out, nothing at all has changed.
Nothing.
We've got a couple of comments here.
Junk Silver says, yes, I highly recommend Wolfpack.
You get to the end of the year and you realize you've significantly increased your Stack with an interesting assortment of metals without even realizing it.
And of course, Wolfpack is the ability to...
That's what Tony has set up.
It's kind of unique.
And you can just determine the dollar amount that you want to buy each month, and every month you just gradually accumulate it.
Paleo Armory says, I wish I would have never started a 401k.
If I just did gold and silver, I would have never lost a dime, ever.
And you'd probably have some silver dimes as well.
That's right.
Some real silver dimes.
That's true.
I mean, if you put, it's funny, and because gold, it just is what it is.
I mean, it's Warren Buffett criticized.
It doesn't do anything.
It just sits there.
Yes, but against fiat currency, it keeps and holds its value.
And even, you know, if you look at the S&P 500 and other indexes, gold's outperformed many of them and has stayed ahead of the curve, ahead of inflation.
You know, and you get mirrors, in many ways, it mirrors the The debt accumulation of the United States and the price fluctuation.
So, gold's just a safe haven.
Gold is money.
You know, gold's not...
I don't claim it to...
You won't find the word investment anywhere on any of my websites.
I don't use that word.
I don't advocate gold or silver as an investment.
But gold and silver are money.
Fundamentally, they are stores of value.
They're stores of energy.
And that's going to be more and more...
I think, again, the price is going to be really surprising to people over the next five years because I don't think folks really understand the debasement that has gone on.
If you study this every day like I do and you look at just the sheer numbers and the currency creation that's gone on and, of course, the debt that you and I talk about.
The trillion dollars that's being accumulated every, what, 60 days now, if you go by the new math of everything that they're doing.
And then you look at institutions.
This is part of the fourth turning, but institutions are digging in their heels.
Look at what Jerome Powell said when asked if he would step down if Trump asked him to.
And he said no.
You know, he doesn't have to.
You were so right.
Congress authorized the Fed.
Congress can defund the Fed, can audit the Fed, can end the Fed, can do what it likes.
They didn't do an amendment to the Constitution.
As a matter of fact, I can't believe that nobody really ever challenged that.
If you look at the Constitution of the United States, only Congress can coin money and it has to be gold and silver specie.
And nobody really ever took that to task because you have this outside international banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve that's not federal and not a reserve.
Again, but these are institutions, I think, that are also on the chopping block for reform in this fourth turning.
Know your history.
Look at the end of the last fourth turning, what happened in the new financial world order that was set up at Bretton Woods in 1944.
We're on the cusp of a new financial world order.
I don't think that king dollar will reign supreme for much longer.
It won't be tomorrow or five months from now.
But inside this decade, we'll see massive change.
And again, we'll look back at some of these prices.
And gold and silver will look extremely cheap.
I promise you that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, as a matter of fact, Karen, pull up the picture for this.
The Great Kentucky Horde, $2 million in Civil War-era gold coins discovered.
I saw that and I thought, yeah, that's a couple of interesting things.
First of all, that was two fourth turnings ago.
We had the Civil War when everything changed.
Everything was reset.
And what was real money then?
Was it the greenbacks that Lincoln was putting out there and put on income tax on people at the time?
Was it the Confederate fiat currency, the Confederate money that became famous as a worthless currency?
Or was it gold?
That was what they were really looking at.
And so they found this stash of Civil War gold now worth $2 million, these coins that they've got there.
But, you know, I think that's an interesting thing.
To me, it speaks of the permanency of the value of gold.
And it speaks of what people turn to in troubled times, doesn't it?
It's just a part of the human story, and the more I read on the history of gold, the history of the monetary system, it's just going to be with us.
I mean, you can get into the cyberspace all that you like.
I'm in it too, and I do love Bitcoin, and I think decentralized cryptocurrencies are fantastic, and you should learn how to use them.
You should do all the research you can because it's part of our future, in my opinion.
But nothing will ever replace Physical gold and silver, it'll always be a part of our story, and it's a way for you to be, like, you know, if you really want peace of mind, you know, you want to store value, to me, physical precious metals, no counterparty risk whatsoever, that's my first choice.
That'll always be my first.
When I look at, to me, gold is cash.
You know, if I've got a one ounce gold coin, I know that I can liquidate that at any time or I can trade it.
But I've got a store of value right there and I've stopped the music.
I mean, again, it's a game of musical chairs with fiat currency and who gets left with nothing.
And that's eventually the game runs out.
The average lifespan, as I've said many times, of a fiat currency is 26 years, and we've doubled that here in the U.S., mainly because we are the reserve currency of the world, and the rest of the world is still using dollars.
But after losing the petrodollar, David, we lost that in June.
Nobody said anything.
Those countries like Saudi Arabia, like China, Russia, they are starting to use other means to purchase crude oil and to denominate them in their own currencies.
So 80% of all the energy transactions in the world go on in dollars.
That is declining as well, as well as usage of the dollar.
So all that stuff is going to matter here.
And it may not matter tomorrow or during this, Happy days are here again market that we're seeing that I kind of shrug and say, well, that's fantastic for a lot of people.
I hope your 401k looks good.
But none of that's permanent.
I think we're just riding a wave of euphoria.
And again, it's this psychological value that we place on this economy.
All the things that have caused our pain over the last five years, especially, are still there.
Yeah.
It's the sort of thing I know from my past experience, I get burned with...
The dot-com bust and stuff.
And I thought I was playing it safe.
I thought I was investing in the companies that were selling the switching equipment, but everything went down.
And so, you know, when I look at what happens with the market, and I know that it's the madness of crowds, and you get swept up in that, and so there's an element of that that's happening.
We've seen an element of that with the AI industry.
fad and all the rest of this stuff and um it is um you know when that when that goes down so much of the stock market has been concentrated in in the ai hopium and and just in a couple of companies that uh when that goes down it's going to be really huge and who knows what the effect of that is going to be so i'm just at this point in my life i i don't ride roller coasters anymore at the park and i don't like to ride roller coasters in the market i just don't have the the constitution for it i can't stand
i can't stand it so uh you know i'm just looking for something that is safe and consistent that is tangible that's real that's outside of the virtual system that these people are creating because i don't trust the people that are creating these virtual systems at all So, I mean, that's really where I'm coming from.
But, you know, again, whatever people want, we're just trying to...
We're trying to kick the tires and see what we see here, and people can listen to us and make their own decisions about where they think things are going.
Anything you want to tell us about what's going on at Wise Wolf?
Well, we just got, again, we're a lot of challenges.
In the down market, there's some great deals going on right now, and we're going to readjust Wolfpack invoices probably a little bit later today just to reflect those price changes.
So good for all of our members are going to get a little bit lower pricing, and supply is still the issue.
You know, again, I talked to, you should go look at, if anybody's interested in the interview I did with Andy Sheckman and Miles Franklin, it's up on my podcast channels at the Wise Wolf Golden Crypto Show.
We had an interesting conversation.
And towards the end of the show, he said, hey, you know as well as anybody that if there was an uptick in the ordering of physical precious metals that you couldn't deliver.
And I said, I know.
And, like, everybody knows.
It's the little secret, folks.
If you join Wolfpack, you go to davidknight.gold, and you get into Wolfpack, we have guaranteed delivery of product.
And I put my name on it.
So I've slowly built up enough to where even we had about we got at least a month of inventory that I can do as a reserve.
But I can't guarantee anything else after that.
I mean, direct sales will.
I mean, if you look at the first quarter of 2020, David, we after the lockdowns on Friday the 13th of March, after the lockdowns, it was six weeks out to get a silver delivery.
People forget that.
You know, if you ordered a significant amount of silver, and I was down to just ordering silver dollars and things, that's how tight the market got after the lockdowns in 2020.
And then it, you know, again, towards the spring and into the summer, it eased up a bit.
But we've never really recovered from that point in time.
The variety isn't what it used to be.
And so I do caution people.
I mean, if you're on the fence about getting into precious metals or just accumulating a little bit at a time, look at the prices now, where they are, and get something physical in your hand, because I don't know how long it will last where you can continue to get supply.
And when the prices go down like this, people hold.
So there will be even less supply.
The precious metals business is antithetical a lot to economics.
It doesn't always reflect supply and demand.
I mean, there's been times when you couldn't buy any physical silver because of runs on physical silver, like the Reddit Raiders that did that back in February of 21.
in the spot price on paper because they sold off 1.5 times the annual supply in paper stock in one day.
So they drove the market down.
Yeah.
So I would just...
That's what the paper stuff is for, And that's what concerns me, is because these guys who do the securitization, the tokenization, and all the rest of this stuff, I mean, these guys, they're the manipulators who brought us the real estate market crash in 2008.
They're constantly manipulating everything.
So it's like, yeah, just get out of that and try to get something that is real, that is tangible.
Because the thing that really killed it for people with real estate was that, yeah, it was physical, but But you didn't own it outright.
You had mortgages on it or whatever.
And so that was where they got people.
They got them underwater on their mortgages and things like that.
So that's a key thing, having something that is real there.
Jason, thank you for the tip.
He says, Jason Barker, Tony says, let people know they can do a one-time Wolfpack purchase when they have some extra cash instead of a subscription if they can't afford the monthly.
Well, that's true.
Yeah, we make it really easy at Wolfpack.
I mean, you can get one-time any of the tiers from 35, the Wolf Cub, all the way up to the highest level.
You can get one-time purchases.
And if you join and you have to skip one, you can do that, too.
We make it really...
I've got a great team.
We're very quick...
On changing anything with your subscription.
We don't give you a hard time.
There's no contracts or anything like that.
You get in and out just like I would want to do if I was you on the outside looking in.
I would definitely want to have the freedom to move in and out or purchase whatever I wanted to do.
And we make it that way at Wolfpack for sure.
Well, it's a great thing.
And it's the kind of stuff I like dealing with you.
I trust you.
And you're also innovative and you provide some services that other people don't.
I really do appreciate that at Wolfpack.
Appreciate you.
Thank you very much.
Again, Tony Arterman at Wise Wolf Gold, and you can get there through davidknight.gold.
Let's him know that you're coming through us.
Thank you so much, Tony.
We're living in interesting times, and I think things are going to get real interesting real quick.
In the next few months, I think it's going to be really crazy.
That old Chinese curse just continues not to disappoint in this decade, David.
Like I said, it started out with a bang.
We have been running, I mean, full steam ahead into Agenda 2030.
That's what I want to continue to remind people of.
And even in these little...
You know, again, a lot of times it's a blessing to see these psychological shifts in markets and things.
It gives you a pause, gives you a time to think and take in a breath.
But we're going to get right back, I think, in 2025, right back to fundamentals.
I have my show next at 11 a.m.
Central Time.
I'll be on my Twitter at Tony Arterburn and Rockfin and Rumble on the America Unplugged Network.
I think I'm just meditating.
Yesterday I was driving up from Texas.
I'm up in my Branson office today.
And I was thinking about a book that Pat Buchanan wrote back in 2011 called Suicide of a Superpower.
And the subtitle was, Will America Survive to 2025?
And he asked all the big questions, you know, trade deficits, actual deficits, currency, culture.
And I remember, you know, being a big fan of Buchanan at the time and had read The Death of the West as one of the books that changed my life.
And I was thinking about that book and how spot on he was.
I'll talk a little bit about that.
Yeah, we're living in some very interesting times that are coming up, and you know, that's the Chinese proverb.
The other thing, too, is that they build their picture characters, they build them out of different concepts, right?
Another thing for a crisis is opportunity and danger, and that's really kind of where we are right now.
We've got opportunity and danger, and it's not going to change.
So we're going to take a quick break, and we will be right back.
Thank you for joining us.
Again, Tony is going to be coming up right after this program, and you can go to davidknight.gold.
We'll be right back.
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