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The David Knight Show - 02/27/2024

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	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 27th of February.
	Dear Lord, 2024.
	Well, today we're going to take a look at the death of Rothschild, Jacob Rothschild.
	And we're not going to look at what most people are talking about.
	We're going to look at the connection to someone who is running for president.
	A very interesting connection, I think, and it's not been talked about too much.
	We've forgotten about this for the last eight years, haven't we?
	We're going to bring it back up again, and then of course we have a lot of news about suppression of speech at many different levels.
	We've got state laws that are coming up into the Supreme Court.
	We've got laws coming from Europe.
	you We have supposedly freedom organizations, even though they have a leftist bent, applauding censorship.
	Strangely, as if it were the speech of the censors, who we know and always have known for working for the government.
	We've even got the documents now, but we knew it forever, years and years ago.
	We'll be right back, stay with us.
	Well, Jacob Rothschild has died.
	They call him Lord.
	I don't call him Lord. The British can call him whatever they want.
	I've got some other names for him privately.
	But a dear friend, said Tony Blair, a dear friend and wonderful human being.
	This is Tony Blair, the former Prime Minister of the UK, who was right there with George W. Bush.
	With Iraq and pushing globalism, and he's out there pushing CBDC and everything else.
	He's got an institute now, the Institute for Global Change, run by Tony Blair.
	You can make your checks out to, I don't know, Tony, or to the Institute for Global Change.
	You know, it's a Klaus Schwab wannabe.
	He said, Jacob was a dear friend, a wonderful human being.
	His impact was global. His support for great causes such as the arts and the environment.
	I wonder how Rothschild felt about these climate extremists to throw paint on art.
	How do you reconcile that conflict there?
	As a matter of fact, Travis, pull up the picture here.
	That they put on Zero Hedge article.
	It's the second one there. Lord Rothschild dies at 87, they say.
	Everybody calls him Lord.
	But they put him up there.
	That's Monty Burns. And he does bear an uncanny resemblance.
	Perhaps they patterned him after Monty Burns was perhaps patterned after him.
	Who knows? I mean, look at that.
	That's pretty amazing. From The Simpsons.
	Oh, Smithers, it's hot down here.
	Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, when you look at It's a Wonderful Life, they patterned that banker after J.P. Morgan, both in his demeanor and the way he looked kind of as well as what he actually did.
	Rothschild began his career at the family-owned Rothschild& Sons Bank in 1963.
	It's a guy who started at the top and now has gone way, way down the top.
	And they're coming to the common end that we all do, right?
	You know, all these people die just like we die.
	In 1980, he departed from the Family Bank to focus on the Rothschild Investment Trust, which ranks as one of the most prominent investment trusts in the UK. Hence the praise of Prince Charles, King Charles now.
	And Tony Blair and all the rest of them.
	They love that. It soared by as much as 1,300% over the years.
	But as Zero Hedge points out, let's revisit some of Rothschild's previous warnings.
	In 2015, he said the geopolitical situation is most dangerous since World War II. Are you talking about the fourth turning?
	Because that's really what we're talking about here.
	As a matter of fact, 2015...
	It was pretty clear. We were already, we'd kicked off the fourth turning with the 2007-2008 real estate crash.
	And so we're already, you know, at that point, seven or eight years into it.
	So he noticed that.
	Good for a man of insight.
	One year later, he again warned about the outcome of, quote, what is surely the greatest experiment in monetary policy in the history of the world.
	Then in August of 2017, he cautioned that share prices have in many cases risen to unprecedented levels at a time when economic growth is by no means assured.
	So we have an artificially inflated stock market?
	We have an artificially inflated fiat currency?
	What's going on here?
	In 2018, he said the new world order is at risk.
	Well, let's hope so.
	But of course, These people burn it all down.
	Monty Burns. And so, you know, a lot of people are going to be talking about the Rothschild family's role in the creation of the State of Israel a century ago and that type of thing, where they have been consigning him to hell and all the rest of the stuff.
	But I want to focus on something that is more germane, really, to what is happening right now and to the presidential election.
	And to this mania that is happening right now.
	Meet Wilbur Ross, who once bailed out Trump in Atlantic City and was now his pick for Commerce Secretary, going back to 2016.
	I've got articles here from the LA Times, from Forbes.
	Isn't that conspiracy theories?
	This is just relationships.
	The guy who saved Trump when he was circling the drain was a Rothschild banker.
	Wilbur Ross realized just how popular Donald Trump was.
	He saw how the people loved him back when he was having issues.
	He's always been a celebrity.
	It's like... He had this keen insight.
	We could use that.
	Just like the Rothschilds use information about a war.
	It's that type of thing.
	I've got some information.
	His information was, this is a guy who's got political ambitions.
	He'd be an excellent demagogue.
	We could really use him.
	And apparently they did.
	Before he was scooping up Rust Belt factories, Wilbur Ross, the banker, was sizing up another troubled asset, Donald Trump.
	More than two decades ago, Ross represented bondholders who were gunning for Trump after he failed to pay back the high-interest loans he had taken out to build his casino empire.
	Ross embarked on a strategy that helped Trump avoid a personal bankruptcy that could have derailed his unlikely trajectory from real estate mogul to reality TV star to president.
	Consider it another investment that has paid off for Ross.
	Trump recently tapped, this is 2016, to lead the Department of Commerce.
	What is the Department of Commerce?
	Well, it's another one of these vaguely defined, aggressive, expansive bureaucracies for which there is no constitutional authority.
	And, you know, this is not a knock on Trump, per se.
	He doesn't care about the Constitution, of course.
	But none of these presidents do, or they get rid of the Department of Commerce, along with a lot of other of these things.
	But the Department of Commerce's mission statement is to promote economic growth.
	And that's what they do.
	The rich get richer. We have recently gotten a glimpse of what Biden has done with it, for example.
	Just recently, in the last couple of months, the Commerce Department was tapped by the Biden administration to say, well, if OpenAI or any of these other artificial intelligence companies decide they're going to take off with a new product or go in a new direction, you need to notify the Commerce Department first.
	So is it kind of like central planning of the economy, communist-style thing, or what is it?
	No, it's crony capitalism.
	They pick the winners. They pick the losers.
	And so you've got to let us know if you're going to go into, if you're going to do something different with artificial intelligence, you contact the Commerce Department.
	Because, quite frankly, artificial intelligence is the stock market right now.
	It is the hopium.
	You look at, like I said, NVIDIA and these other companies.
	You know, they are what the hopium is being snorted in Wall Street is all about.
	And so, as a matter of fact, also, just in recent months, back in October, the Biden administration...
	I notified gun exporters and said, we're not going, the Commerce Department is going to ban you exporting firearms and ammunition.
	If you're an American manufacturer of firearms, I'm sorry, you can't export those right now.
	Can't do that. Commerce Department.
	When you make up something like this, it's malleable.
	They're always looking as to how they can expand their mission statement.
	Just look at the EPA, right?
	It was supposed to be about pollution.
	Well, they're defending the pollution of our water and fluoride, and then they are allowing other things to happen to us while they prohibit cars.
	They moved over to prohibiting cars.
	While they allow our water to have toxic chemicals, but our drinking water.
	The EPA was set up to clean up the environment, to clean up water.
	Instead, what they do is they have people like racist Rachel Levine, A tranny who is hiding information showing how bad fluoride is.
	There's a trial that's just, you know, they finished with their arguments.
	It's now being considered.
	But they've done everything they could to support the poisoning of our water, to support the poisoning of our crops, of pesticides, and things like that.
	That's what they were designed to do.
	Instead, they have pivoted over to controlling transportation and shutting down our energy supply.
	They want to shut down not only all internal combustion engines, but they also want to shut down coal and oil and natural gas power plants that supply electricity to the grid.
	This is the EPA. But back to the Commerce Department.
	Wilbur Ross was a private equity billionaire who once led a secret Wall Street fraternity.
	This is the LA Times.
	Ross, I mean, not a conspiracy theorist rag or whatever, but this is mainstream media.
	Ross is among the rich, loyal insiders that Trump picked for a cabinet that is shaping up as the wealthiest in history.
	The 79-year-old veteran investor will spearhead trade policy and business development in the new administration.
	Business development. Why do we want the government spearheading business development?
	How's that working out for these automobile companies who followed Biden into his EV fantasy world?
	Trump rejected criticism that Ross was too out of touch to serve.
	Said during a rally last week in Chicago that Ross was chosen because, quote, this guy knows how to make money, folks.
	Money, money, money.
	Yeah, that's what he's about.
	And he added, I put on a killer.
	Ross, however, once spared Trump.
	The future president-elect at one time owned a quarter of Atlantic City's casino market.
	But Trump was heavily in debt, and he started missing bond payments on his and Atlantic City's largest casino, the Taj Mahal, in 1990.
	Ross was then an investment banker working for Rothschild.
	And he helped bondholders negotiate with Trump, whose finances were unraveling.
	The final deal reached Trump's ownership stake, reduced it rather, his ownership stake in the Taj, but left him in charge.
	Bondholders were unhappy when Ross presented the plan.
	They said, this doesn't make any economic sense.
	Why did we make a deal with him, one asked, according to a book by Rosenberg.
	And Wilbur Ross says, well, the Trump name is very much an asset.
	And so they were grooming this guy for something else.
	He grew up in New Jersey.
	He went to a Jesuit prep school.
	Then he went to Yale. He went to Harvard.
	Then he went to work for the Rothschilds.
	How could you go wrong with a pedigree like that?
	The Commerce Department, he would oversee a portfolio containing responsibilities as diverse as weather research, geoengineering, and promoting minority-owned businesses, DEI, and the Trump administration.
	However, with Trump in the White House, foreign trade likely will be the issue that gets most of Ross's attention.
	Trump has promised to remake free trade deals.
	And so when you look at, again, that was L.A. Times.
	Forbes. Getting Donald out of debt.
	The 25-year-old ties that bind Trump and Wilbur Ross.
	America's first billionaire president is riding into the White House with popular support, and he's bringing his billionaire friends with him, says Forbes.
	They're the ones who create the list of the wealthiest people there.
	Let's stop and think for a moment about the Trump cabinet.
	You know, kind of tentative in 2016.
	It's like, well, this guy's got some real character issues.
	But look at Hillary. What are we going to do?
	Well, you know, we know what Hillary is, said Julian Assange.
	We know she's a criminal and a warmonger.
	We don't know about Trump yet.
	Well, immediately we started getting inclinations about what he was doing.
	Goldman Sachs, Bankridge, you had Cohen taking a $250 million early golden parachute.
	So, with the encouragement of his Goldman Sachs people, go, go, go, go.
	We'll give you an advanced payoff.
	We'll speed it up. Because we want a man on the inside.
	So, Gary Cohen goes in.
	Rex Tillerson... An Exxon executive who is a rabid environmentalist pushing the Paris Climate Accord, and he made sure that the Paris Climate Accord did not get removed during the Trump administration.
	He did a little head fake after the election in 2020, but for four years it remained in place.
	They supposedly took it off for one, two months, and then Biden put it right back on.
	They left it. They left it.
	That was what Rex Tillerson got.
	All these people were writing me at the time.
	You're a fool. You don't know.
	Rex Tillerson was the president of Exxon.
	He's not for this environmentalism.
	He's not against fossil fuels.
	And I said, oh, really?
	Really? You don't understand how that works, do you?
	You don't understand that these oil companies have bought into this renewable scam at the base level?
	Yeah, they're going to keep their old business, but they're going to make a lot of money off their renewables as well.
	And then, of course, he had the two Alex's.
	He had Alex Azar, the CEO of Eli Lilly, one of the highest, you know, the best, most politically connected of all the pharmaceutical companies.
	He put him in as HHS head over Francis Collins, over Fauci.
	The one who declared the pandemic in the end of January, Alex Azar.
	And now Eli Lilly, by the way, is likely going to be the first trillion dollar pharmaceutical company.
	That's the guy that Trump wanted running HHS and the vaccine program.
	And then he had Alex Acosta.
	Alex Acosta, who was the so-called prosecutor of Jeffrey Epstein.
	But he gave that sweetheart deal to Jeffrey Epstein, whose defense attorneys were Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr, the guy who gave a sweetheart deal to Bill Clinton.
	And so he brought him in.
	You know, the friend of Epstein was brought in to labor.
	The friend of Big Pharma was brought in to run HHS. The Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was brought in to keep Paris Climate Accord there because the previous Secretary of State said we've self-ratified this.
	So we've got to do that. We've got to keep that self-ratified Paris Climate Accord there.
	And then we have Wilbur Ross, the Rothschild man, who saved Donald's behind financially.
	Who's going to save him this time?
	Right? He's in real financial straits.
	I mean, he's got to find that cash, and he doesn't have much money in cash, quite frankly.
	That's a significant half a billion dollars.
	That's like a quarter of his net worth, and he doesn't have a quarter of his net worth tied up in that.
	As a matter of fact, when we look at what happened when he got bailed out in the 1990s, and of course there's been a lot of inflation since the 1990s, but the Taj Mahal thing was over $675 million in junk bonds.
	He's going to be up to that pretty quickly with these interest rates, unless they start grabbing properties in New York.
	But the interesting thing about this junk bond situation, as I said before, how does somebody go bankrupt with a casino?
	I mean, that's like a license to print money.
	The house always wins.
	That's like having the Federal Reserve, and you just print money out there all the time.
	The whole thing is set up.
	Everything, every game is set up so the house wins.
	The longer you play, the more certain it is that the house wins.
	How could you go bankrupt in a situation like that?
	Well, he borrowed the money to buy Taj Mahal.
	Yeah, the art of the deal.
	I'm going to use other people's money and all the rest of the stuff.
	And he did it at 14% interest rates.
	This is the 1990s.
	This isn't, you know, the late 1970s and 80s when home loans were close to that.
	We had our first home.
	We had a 13% fixed mortgage.
	We were stupid.
	Really stupid. How do you justify this?
	And of course, at that point in time, they went up to like 18% or something, I think, eventually.
	But how in the world do you justify this as a businessman who's supposed to know his way around?
	He desperately wanted these casinos for his image, that he would do anything to get it.
	And so he borrows $675 million at 14% interest rate.
	And he was struggling to make payments within months, said Forbes magazine.
	And so then Wilbur Ross and the Rothschilds stepped in.
	To represent the bondholders who were thinking about forcing the casino into involuntary bankruptcy and ousting Trump.
	Ross reportedly saw crowds pressed against Trump's limo windows.
	And as he looked at that, like, this is a guy we can use.
	This is a guy we can use.
	The Rothschild globalist bankers.
	This is a guy. We can sell him as an anti-globalist and they'll buy it, won't they?
	Yeah, that's right. That's what they did.
	You realize the value of Trump's celebrity.
	So, they offered a bankruptcy deal.
	Trump would give up 50% of the stake in the Taj Mahal.
	But he would receive better debt terms.
	You know, less than 14% interest.
	I don't know what the better debt terms were or not.
	He would get better debt terms and he would remain in control.
	That was the important thing.
	That he be seen and control.
	And then he ultimately made similar deals for his other troubled properties, and he climbed out of debt and back onto the Forbes 400, writes Forbes.
	But it didn't last long.
	He went bankrupt on these things.
	He couldn't manage them. It wasn't even the foolish $675 million debt at 14% interest that Trump did.
	He still couldn't manage these things.
	And make a profit out. So they had six casinos that went bankrupt.
	Ross, on the other hand, went into private equity in 2000.
	Formed a company called W.L. Ross and Company.
	He still runs it back in 2016, but he sold it to an investment firm, Invesco, in 2006 for $375 million.
	And then in 2013, Invesco partnered with Trump's son-in-law.
	Jared Kushner.
	Oh, isn't that nice?
	It's like All in the Family.
	It's like, you know, a little Dickens novel where everybody knows everybody else.
	You have all these incestuous business relationships.
	So then he goes into partnership with Jared Kushner and others to buy five industrial properties from the Jehovah Witnesses in Brooklyn for $240 million.
	How'd they get that kind of money?
	I mean, we're talking Joel Osteen-level wealth here.
	Or Copeland level.
	You know, private jets and all the rest of this stuff.
	Nearly all of Trump's wealth is tied up in real estate, said Forbes back in 2016.
	See, this is the rub. This is the danger to Trump right now.
	He's got 30 days to do this.
	And like I said, he doesn't have the cash.
	He's going to have to liquidate something or they're going to steal it.
	And who's going to loan him the money?
	I mean, who's got that kind of money?
	Going to go down to your local bail bondsman?
	Get that kind of money?
	And I'm not saying that he deserves to have this stuff taken from him.
	I think it's completely fraudulent what they're doing.
	Nevertheless, this is going to play out in a very bad way for him.
	I don't support what Letitia James is doing.
	I don't support that bad law.
	I don't support that judge.
	What is his name? Ingeron or whatever it is.
	And so, but they said he also, most of his money is in real estate.
	But back in 2016, he also owned stocks.
	And one of those holdings was $250,000, not million, $250,000 to $500,000 in Invesco stock, the same company that Wilbur Ross merged with, that he runs, that Jared Kushner got involved in.
	Trump and Ross were also neighbors in Florida and New York, just like he was with Jeffrey Epstein.
	Because, you know, these rich people have places in Manhattan and they have places in Palm Beach.
	So Ross had a 16,000 square foot home just up the road from Trump's 126 room Mar-a-Lago.
	Ross's penthouse in Manhattan is just two blocks from Trump Tower Triplex.
	And of course, you know, Epstein, maybe three of them partied.
	Who knows? I don't know. I definitely know that Trump and Epstein were partying together.
	And then you had, in 2018, more...
	A research into the relationship, a researcher, Jake Morfanios, discovered that when Trump was in bankruptcy in the 1980s, just when he was about to lose everything, bailed out by the Rothschilds, he claims that Trump is now serving the financial interests of the Rothschilds global enterprise, especially in the Middle East.
	Where the U.S. engages in wars that covertly are waged to bring oil resources under the control of the Rothschild oil companies and, of course, the American government.
	If Morphonius is correct, this would be reminiscent of the maneuver that was documented by G. Edward Griffin in Creature from the Jekyll Island.
	He, not the Jekyll Island, the creature from Jekyll Island, he pointed out that the Rothschilds, acting through the Bank of England, bailed out J.P. Morgan during the Wall Street Panic of 1857.
	Thereafter became hidden controllers of the J.P. Morgan banking dynasty.
	So did they do that to Trump?
	Well, we'll eventually find out the rest of the story.
	We'll be right back.
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	And I want to talk a little bit about an update to what happened with Google's Gemini racist images, as I said last week.
	One excuse I've not come up with is, well, it was black history.
	So we made everybody black, right?
	I said, why are we working to address recent issues with Gemini's image generation feature?
	While we do this, we're going to pause the image generation of people, and we'll re-release an improved version soon.
	So the problem for them is that everybody realizes now, because one picture is worth a thousand words, you look at what they have done in response to these prompts, and you realize that Right away, what their agenda is.
	And you realize that these people are just hardcore propagandists pushing a racist, anti-white agenda.
	There's no question about it.
	X-users compiled several X-posts from the Gemini Experience's Senior Director of Product Management, Jack Krazyk, I guess is how you pronounce his name.
	I'm not sure if it's a Polish name.
	But going back, this guy who was head of Gemini, you go back and look just a couple of years ago.
	They went back to 2018, 2021, 2020, another one from 2018.
	White privilege is effing real, he said.
	Don't be an a-hole and act guilty about it.
	Do your part in recognizing bias at all levels of egregious.
	At all levels of egregious, that's what he said.
	Another one. Tribal values now supersede personal morality as an animating force.
	Quoting an article from Reuters.
	And he says, For what it's worth, my personal beliefs are that I don't mind paying more taxes and investing in overcoming systemic racism and reversing climate change that has not only social but economic benefits.
	It puts him right there in the same bucket as this racist Rachel Levine.
	Dick Devine, I call it.
	Well, climate change is racist.
	Everything is racist to these people.
	And again, all that is ESG, DEI. All of this is about climate, about racism, about Marxism is what it's truly about.
	Another one. No, Jesus only cares about white kids.
	I'm pretty sure that's in the Bible.
	Let's confirm it with Jeff Sessions.
	Well, you know, Jack would never, let's say, open the Bible and actually read it, would he?
	Yeah. What a racist douche nozzle, said Elon Musk.
	Is that... Okay, so whatever that is.
	Anyway, so he shares his built-in racism with you via Google.
	That's what this is all about.
	Artificial intelligence is one of the biggest mind games that has ever been devised.
	It is the perfect tool of propaganda, surveillance, control, and Propaganda.
	The big lie.
	We should all be very concerned about artificial intelligence.
	That's what's really dangerous about it.
	Yeah, they may, you know, do some kind of mass murder event.
	Blame it on autonomous killing machines.
	You know, that gives them a nice plausible deniability for some kind of a false flag thing like that.
	But understand, it is the heart of what they want to do with this complete omniscient, omnipotent state.
	We are aware that Gemini is offering inaccuracies in some historical image generation depictions.
	You think it doesn't do it otherwise?
	It's just that it's glaring and false, glaringly false in those.
	We're working to fix this immediately as part of our AI principles.
	We design our image generation capabilities to reflect our global user base.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	So we're working to improve these kinds of depictions.
	Gemini's AI image generation does generate a wide range of people, and that's generally a good thing.
	So ZeroHedge says, was that an apology?
	Maybe they thought they could get away with it.
	Maybe it was being done for some higher purpose.
	And of course, you know, we've all seen the pictures now.
	Draw me some Vikings.
	Draw black people.
	Draw me some Scots and, you know, American revolutionaries.
	And they're all black or Asian or American Indian or whatever, okay?
	Clownish. Clownish. Even to the extent that they've now, you know, draw me a...
	You know, black and Chinese female revolutionary soldiers all over that.
	1820s Scotland, full of sub-Saharan Africans.
	And of course, the coup de grace, they had to put a black guy in a Nazi helmet.
	You know, because even the Nazi troops were black, you realize.
	Medieval queens of England, all black.
	Popes, all black.
	17th century physicists, all black.
	Asian, all this. It's beyond belief.
	But this picture, this is a picture of what Google is truly about.
	Google is the massive lie.
	I've said for the longest time it's a search engine designed to hide things, but it's also a search engine designed to create rewriting of society, to create chaos.
	You know, what Google is doing It's really equivalent to what the weather underground did in the 1960s and 70s.
	You had Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, and they picked up what one guy, Marxist, said, we need to create a race war.
	We'll do it by creating this thing called white privilege, make that the villain.
	And so that's what they did.
	They called it, you know, it was white skin privilege initially, and then it became white privilege.
	And they stopped bombing buildings and killing people.
	And, of course, they got away with it because they were the kind of revolutionaries that the system wanted.
	And so then they went into education, started bombing kids' minds with this idea of white privilege.
	That's Bill Ayers and his other Marxists.
	It will allow searches for a white woman, but three out of four of them will still be non-white.
	And then again, you know, Nazi soldiers from World War II, well, they were black as well.
	Asked to generate an astronaut on the moon holding Bitcoin, all the images look like the same Indian woman.
	And so, as they have shut that down, People are now looking at still the texts that are coming out.
	And the texts that are coming out from Google, by the way, they forgot to put her hand in the glove, so I don't know how that works.
	You know, you're in a space suit.
	Forgot to put your gloves on.
	Okay, let's end the story there.
	Anyway, now critics are pointing out similar issues with the text responses, of course.
	As one person said, it struggled to say whether Hitler or Elon Musk's tweets have been worse for society.
	And it wouldn't promote meat, and it said it wouldn't help to promote fossil fuels either when somebody asked it for an ad campaign.
	I did that kind of stuff with OpenAI chat GPT when it first came out.
	And of course, you know, it's just a joke.
	It's just, you know, it can do some useful things.
	For some people, but I wouldn't trust it because of the hallucinations that it has.
	But when it comes to anything that is political or religious or whatever, be careful of this thing.
	It's got an agenda.
	It's very, very subtle.
	And that's one of the things that Elon Musk said.
	He said, well, first of all, I don't think they're going to fix it because of the culture of that company.
	But he says, if they do, it's going to become even more dangerous because it'll become more subtle.
	See? He gets it. He gets it.
	The danger in this stuff is a subtlety.
	And so, Ben Thompson, a tech analyst, I've struggled to say whether Elon Musk or Hitler are more dangerous.
	I guess maybe it was kind of hung up on that douche nozzle thing.
	Is that a German term?
	Schnitzel! Anyway, Google's internal culture has been too influenced by left-leaning workers and critics.
	As I point out, of course we know that, but it's not the left-leaning critics, folks.
	Google was created by the Pentagon, by DARPA, by the intelligence community.
	It was created by the venture capital firm, In-Q-Tel, created by the CIA. Venture capital people on all the boards.
	We can now believe that because now you've got a Trump official who remained quiet about that for six years or so.
	But now he's gone on with Tucker Carlson and told you that.
	So now you can believe that. I was telling it to people for years, but I couldn't believe that.
	So, yeah, from the start, that's what it has been pushing.
	And this is the Marxist agenda of our globalist government, because our government in Washington is the seat of globalism.
	Forget about Davos and the UN. You know, of course, the UN is in New York, right?
	We are the globalist government.
	We have met the enemy, and they is us.
	Yeah, our bureaucracies are the globalist government, folks.
	Better understand that.
	And so, our globalist government...
	That has taken over the American government that is the one funding these types of things and demanding that they do it.
	So, Google no longer hems and haws when asked to compare Hitler with Musk's tweets, but it's also, said one person, is also willing to help me to brainstorm now a sales campaign for beef, suggesting that I, quote, connect beef with Americana and the heritage of grilling and of family meals.
	And then it is still a conscientious objector when it comes to a fossil fuel ad campaign I wanted help with, he says.
	It's going to be a problem for Google because it has already said that it is trying to influence the way people, the results for their artificial intelligence.
	In other words, this isn't just something that is happening because, well, it just got out of control, it started hallucinating.
	No, they're very consciously doing it, and all of them are.
	I've talked about the fact they pay people minimum wage in other countries, which is really high pay in other countries, in order to build in the bias.
	They're scraping this data off of the internet, off of what all humans are doing on the internet.
	But then they're paying other humans to insert a bias into this artificial intelligence.
	That's what makes it so artificial.
	It's going to be red meat for anybody who wants to argue that Google or any other big tech company is too woke.
	Let's not use that term.
	This is Business Insider, of course.
	No. It's Marxist.
	These are struggle sessions.
	They're struggle sessions. And I'm, again, you know, we've now had Tucker talk about the fact that Big Tech had a guest who talked about the fact that Big Tech has been running all of this censorship stuff and running these social media companies.
	They were designed to control us, the Internet itself.
	Of course, his guest didn't say this.
	It goes back to J.C.R. Licklider in the 1960s, a psychologist who came up with the idea of the Internet.
	The 90s, when it became practical, they invested in the venture capital firms.
	But now Tucker's also had Xi Van Fleet on, who is great.
	People need to read her book, Mao's America, A Survivor's Warning.
	And she points out this is not wokeism.
	It's Marxism.
	And what people like Jack, who at Google, whatever his last name is, what these people are promoting are classic struggle sessions that she explains.
	They did that in China just as they did it in Russia.
	This is a Marxist tactic.
	You can't just be non-racist.
	You've got to be anti-racist and you've got to struggle with yourself.
	You have to denounce yourself and you have to denounce other people.
	This is what this is all about.
	This is what all these people are doing in these companies that are supported by our Marxist globalist government.
	And so this guy who works for Google, senior vice president, I can't even pronounce his name, Prabhakar, Raghavan, Google Senior Engineer.
	Because our users come from all over the world, we want to work well for everyone.
	If you ask for a picture of football players or someone walking a dog, you want to receive a wide range of people.
	Just not any white people, of course, right?
	Yeah, foreign privilege.
	How about that? You want to be the head of one of the big tech companies?
	Well, it helps to be a foreigner.
	That's who they want to hire now.
	Remember that after several days of terrible press over dumb image generations, Google eventually pulled Gemini's image generation feature to try to make the story go away.
	Pulling it all together would be a considerable black eye for Google.
	But now it's open season on Gemini.
	And you can rest assured that a lot of people on the internet are going to spend a lot of time trying to find other examples of wokeness?
	No. Of struggle session.
	And it's not going to be hard.
	As a matter of fact, a guy has gone public.
	Former Google employee said his name is Sean McGuire.
	He said he was told by Google that he cannot be promoted because he's a white man.
	A white man. He said this happened at Google.
	Absolute trash. What a dumpster fire that's there.
	He teased the story back in December of 2023.
	It's two months ago.
	But now with all this stuff that's happening with this racist image generator that they have.
	That was back in December 2023.
	He went public with it.
	He had asked in December of 2023, should I go public with this story by the time I was told I can't be promoted for being a white man?
	Then he says, well, I'm really not supposed to tell you this.
	It could get me fired. But you're one of the highest performing people here, they said.
	But I can't promote you right now because I have a quota.
	My hands are tied. You'll get the next slot.
	Please be patient. I'm really sorry.
	I guess they did fire him.
	So, as he pointed out, Gemini is just the tip of the iceberg.
	They need to fix the bias in their culture, which trickles down into all their products.
	But, of course, where is that coming from?
	The trickling down begins with our government that created them, that pushes them, that directs them who to censor.
	Whenever we talk about free speech, don't ever lose sight of that fact that this has always been coming from the government.
	We have always known this, and now we've got the documents as well.
	Musk said on Thursday that he's glad that Google overplayed their hand as it made their insane, racist, anti-civilization programming clear to everyone.
	Again, a picture's worth more than a thousand words.
	In this particular case, people instantly got the hatred, the racism, the bias, the bigotry of Google.
	I hate Google.
	Google hates me as well.
	They censored me back in 2013 because I was talking about the Federal Reserve.
	I must be some kind of a white racist bigot to talk about the Federal Reserve and the creation of the Federal Reserve and the deception around all of that stuff.
	Boy, you've got to get rid of me.
	They even shut down my Christmas music channel.
	Well, they hate me intensely.
	So this is a bit of a schadenfreude here to see this happen.
	So as they compared Musk to Hitler, they were asked by people, what is the difference between Hitler and Musk?
	And it came back and said, well, it's difficult to say.
	It's difficult to say.
	Can't think of anything right now.
	I'm trying to think, but nothing happens.
	When asked about pedophilia, if it was wrong, The Gemini Google said, well, it's nuanced.
	It started plattering on about minor attracted persons.
	They can't control what they are attracted to.
	It also refused to write a hypothetical job advert for an oil and gas company, as I mentioned before, or an advertisement seeking to sell a goldfish because of ethical concerns.
	We shouldn't sell goldfish?
	But human trafficking of children is okay.
	We just don't want to sell goldfish.
	All right. When asked if it was acceptable to misgender the transgender celebrity Caitlyn Jenner, If it was the only way to prevent a nuclear apocalypse, of course, it said no one should misgender Caitlyn Jenner to prevent a nuclear apocalypse.
	And I always refer to him as Bruce Gender.
	Bruce Gender replied and said, no, they should have said yes.
	So there we go. I guess I can call him Bruce Gender even to prevent a nuclear apocalypse.
	Would that be something like Sodom and Gomorrah judgment?
	Is that what they're talking about?
	The chat box now unambiguously condemns pedophilia.
	They fixed that. So, Musk continued on with this because he's got a competing product.
	By the way, there is, he calls his AI Grok, you know, from the science fiction thing, G-R-O-K. There was another one that has just surfaced, and it is spelled G-R-O-Q. And it is super fast, and they say it's unbiased.
	It doesn't have the bias built into it.
	And they copyrighted that name about eight years ago.
	So why the gap?
	Why did it take them that long to go from, you know, registering that name, trademarking that name, or whatever, I guess, not a copyright, trademark, you know, G-R-O-Q. What have they been doing?
	Well, interestingly enough, they've come up with some purpose-driven CPU instead of using a graphics processing unit, like the NVIDIA stuff.
	And so they've come up with something that's purpose-driven for this.
	So that's why the lag.
	But there isn't any lag when you answer.
	It is really fast.
	And when you look at side-by-side as quickly as it puts out the answer.
	But Musk has got Grok with a K. He says the Gemini AI, maybe he's going to have to change it to X or something.
	XAI. Gemini AI will be at the heart of every Google product and YouTube.
	And this is extremely alarming.
	He said, the senior Google executive called me again yesterday and said it would take a few months to fix, said Musk.
	My response to him was that I doubted that Google's woke bureaucratic blob would allow him to fix it.
	Unless those who caused this are exited from Google, nothing will change except to make the bias, like I said before, less obvious and more pernicious.
	And that's really what is going to happen.
	Because that's one of the reasons why our globalist government at war with America creates these corporations instead of just doing it themselves directly.
	They want to have plausible deniability.
	Even to the extent that Zero Hedge is saying, well, is Google going to be the next go-woke-go-broke trade?
	Comparing it to Bud Light, for example.
	And I guess I've got a question.
	Will the Trump family bail out Gemini like they bailed out, tried to bail out Bud Light?
	Oh, Bud Light's good. Transgenders are fine and all the rest of the stuff.
	That's the Trump family. That's Donald Trump Sr.
	and Donald Trump Jr.
	Microsoft, same thing.
	Microsoft bragging about paying minorities more than white people for the same work.
	Who runs it? Well, there's a guy whose name I can't pronounce, but there's also...
	The U.S. government, the Pentagon, DARPA, they were the ones who were behind Microsoft.
	They partner with all this stuff.
	As a matter of fact, they're working with Microsoft to do the CCPA. The Chinese Communist Party of America.
	No, it stands for Coalition for Content, Provenance, and Authentication.
	A conspiracy between the Pentagon, between DARPA, who's funding it, Microsoft pulling in hardware CPU manufacturers as well as the software app manufacturers to shut down your speech.
	And, of course, part of that is going to be the gatekeepers, like the BBC and the New York Times, to tell them who to censor.
	And then they will censor you with the hardware and the software on your computer.
	Microsoft, so deeply embedded.
	And always has been, since they pulled Gates in.
	He was clearly involved in intellectual property theft.
	He was clearly involved in...
	All kinds of monopolistic practices.
	They brought him to heel.
	He's been their agent ever since.
	And, of course, he's fully on board with the depopulation agenda of the globalists, so they got a common cause right there.
	Microsoft also boasted about instilling far-left ideology in its employees, with 96.4% reporting some awareness of allyship.
	Allyship. Whatever that is.
	So, Breitbart says...
	Follows a trend of major corporations like Disney putting DEI over equality.
	No, it's not about equality.
	It's not about equality.
	We've got to distinguish between an equality of opportunity and a forced equality of results.
	That's what we're talking about here.
	Equal opportunity is going to result in unequal results.
	Meanwhile, in Britain, the transport police there have just removed a compulsory fitness test because it was too unfair for women.
	They had to be able to run for 3 minutes and 35 seconds on a 15-meter track.
	They couldn't do it, mostly, so now we're going to get a lot of people who are physically unfit.
	To be police officers for the British Transport.
	One person said, it's embarrassing to see my colleagues who can barely fasten their stab vest.
	In other words, they've got a, not like a bulletproof vest, but a vest to keep them from being stabbed.
	They can barely fasten it because they're so heavy.
	And knowing that they might not even be able to manage a two-minute jog...
	It's not only concerning, but it's dangerous.
	Especially for this guy, because you're going to stop and think about it.
	Are you a police officer? Maybe you're fit, but maybe your partner isn't.
	They're not going to be able to help you, right?
	They're certainly not going to be able to help the public either.
	So, I've got a couple more here before we take a break.
	The U.S. Supreme Court, I want to stay on the free speech thing.
	So, the U.S. Supreme Court...
	It's going to hear a landmark social media case.
	And these are kind of on the dock as the idea of whether or not states can do something to stop the censorship of big tech.
	Both Florida and Texas have passed laws, and they're slightly different.
	Florida, unfortunately, their law is not very good at all.
	It only protects politicians.
	From having their speech censored on social media.
	Texas' law is broader.
	But this article from CNN is very interesting to see the bias of the left press.
	And of course, CNN is so bad at what they do.
	They don't want any competition.
	They don't want competition from citizens who see something and say something.
	They don't want competition from alternative media, real alternative media, not just the big con media, the big conservative alternative media.
	They don't want any competition anywhere.
	And so they're cheering on the censorship of the social media platforms, CNN is.
	U.S. Supreme Court set to make a pivotal decision about what Americans can see on social media.
	So, again, from the very first sentence, they don't see a problem with that?
	Do you see a problem with that? Why should government determine what I see anywhere?
	Why should government, any branch of government, at any level, determine what I see anywhere?
	That right there, that very first sentence of the CNN article, is in direct opposition to the principle of free speech and the First Amendment of the Constitution.
	The court will consider arguments on whether to give Texas and Florida significantly more control over social media platforms and their content, highlighting the central role those services now play in modern American life.
	Now, throughout this piece from CNN, they present Florida and Texas who are trying to stop censorship.
	They present them as the censors of big tech.
	Poor big tech.
	Don't tell Google and Microsoft or Facebook what to do.
	How dare you as a government tell them what they can do?
	And I see that argument a lot from conservatives and libertarians, who when this stuff started rolling out publicly, you know, they were doing it subtly, perniciously, secretly.
	They were doing all this stuff, and then they started doing it overtly.
	And you saw the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and these people said, well, the corporations can do whatever they want.
	No, they can't. Yeah, John Stossel, writing for Reason many times, said, they're censoring me.
	I hate the fact they're censoring me, but we must stand for the rights of corporations to do whatever they want.
	These are private companies.
	Private companies, corporations are creatures of the state.
	They have no rights.
	States have no rights.
	You know, when we talk about states' rights in the terms of civil war and things like that, states have no rights.
	They have powers.
	People have both power and rights, you see.
	In the 10th Amendment, it says anything that's not expressly delegated to the federal government, these powers are reserved to the states and to the people.
	But we have rights because we are created by God.
	All humans have rights.
	Corporations are created by a government.
	They exist as a privilege.
	A privilege is different from a right.
	But we just gloss over these fundamental differences here.
	So, throughout this article, if you want to stop the corporations from doing what they want, that is censorship.
	That is censorship.
	They must be free to shut down anybody that the Pentagon and the CIA tells them to shut down.
	That's it. And CNN wants to carry that water because that shuts down their competition.
	Can these platforms decide for themselves what content goes on their sites and what can be removed?
	Well, see, the real issue here is that this is a corporate beard.
	The real issue is that Jack Dorsey has said eight to nine times under oath when he's talking to Congress that Twitter and the social media companies are the digital public square.
	And at the end of this article, so does CNN. They say this is the digital public square.
	Well, we've already had the Supreme Court weigh in on this, and I don't know if anybody's going to bring that argument up.
	Back in 1946, Marsh v.
	Alabama, you hear me say this all the time?
	Somebody passing out flyers, religious flyers, in the public square.
	And as a corporate-owned town, the town was owned as a coal town, and the coal company owned that town.
	And I said, no, you can't do that.
	This is privately owned.
	And the Supreme Court said, even if it's privately owned, you can't censor speech in the public square.
	And that's where we should be.
	And I had this discussion, a disagreement with Robert Barnes when I was at InfoWars, and we talked about it publicly as well.
	But he said, oh, it's very different.
	There's been some Supreme Court decisions since then.
	Well, you know, there's different opinions.
	But that was the right opinion, quite frankly.
	That was one that was consistent with human rights and the First Amendment and the Constitution.
	But when he talks about subsequent cases, he's talking about cases where people have set up in a shopping mall, which is not the public square.
	A shopping mall is retail space.
	Even if you're out in the so-called common area, that's still retail space.
	They still have people who are selling things out there.
	So it's not Speaker's Corner.
	It's not a digital public square.
	And so that is not the same thing.
	Texas and Florida officials argue that there are laws imposing restrictions.
	See how they always put this?
	Oh, they're the bad guys. They're the ones who are imposing.
	No, it's the CIA and Big Tech and the Pentagon that are imposing restrictions.
	They argue that their laws imposing restrictions on content moderation are constitutional because they seek to regulate social media platforms' business behavior, not their speech.
	And that's the argument.
	They keep coming back.
	They say, content moderation, that is corporate speech.
	I don't care about corporate speech at all.
	They've got all the money in the world.
	They can buy all the ads that they want to buy.
	Content moderation is not corporate speech.
	It is censorship, and we need to understand what that is.
	This is a lot of doublespeak.
	What they're saying here is that censorship is speech.
	That's like the Orwellian phrase, war is peace.
	This is what CNN and even the Electronic Freedom Foundation, which is about freedom, and they get some issues right, but they're leaning left, and on this issue, they're absolutely dead wrong.
	Because censorship is not speech.
	War is not peace.
	These are completely antithetical to each other.
	They will go through all kinds of arguments, and I hope that there's enough people on the Supreme Court who will push back against it.
	But again, I don't even believe that the Supreme Court is completely devoid of pressure that is being put on it.
	They're not going to decide this case strictly on the merits.
	Some of them will. But there's those swing judges that won't.
	So the Florida law is really only about politicians' speech.
	It was signed by DeSantis in 2021.
	It prohibits tech platforms from suspending or banning the accounts of political candidates.
	Nobody else gets speech?
	It also allows individuals to sue them if they claim that they've been unfairly censored or deplatformed.
	A Texas law signed the same year by Abbott.
	So you got Abbott and you got DeSantis.
	But it's the legislatures, Republican legislatures, that brought this up.
	The Texas law makes it illegal for any large social media platform to, quote, block, ban, remove, deplatform, demonetize, deboost, restrict, deny equal access or visibility to, or otherwise discriminate against expression.
	That is not limited to politicians, and it also allows individuals to sue them.
	And then here's the kicker from CNN, who keeps telling everybody that content moderation, that censorship, is speech.
	CNN says social media platforms are now so important as a new public square.
	Now, nobody says anything about Marsh v.
	Alabama being used. You know, I didn't find that.
	It was actually a tech writer at Breitbart, Alam Bakari, if I'm pronouncing his name correctly.
	An excellent writer. I think he's one of the best they've got at Breitbart.
	I think he's still there. He was the one who brought that up.
	Early on, I said spot on, that's exactly what this is about.
	But other than him, you know, the first person to talk about it, he hasn't really hammered it at Breitbart.
	Other writers at Breitbart have not talked about it.
	I've not heard anybody else talk about Marsh v.
	Alabama. He got that absolutely right.
	CNN says social media companies are more like newspapers and cable companies, which can freely choose to curate what they show, and they enjoy the same constitutional protections against government speech mandates as those industries.
	Well, you understand that newspapers and cable companies are publishers, and what these people are saying is we get protection under Section 230 because we are not publishers.
	We're not publishers.
	They're merely hosting what a third party is doing.
	And so that is a complete non-sequitur.
	These people want to have the cake and eat it too.
	CNN will try to come up with any kind of an argument to shut down any competition.
	So they end up by saying, forcing social media companies to publish all speech.
	No, what you're telling them is that they can't censor.
	That they can't censor.
	They said that would be a form of compelled speech.
	No, you are not the publisher.
	We're not telling you what you have to publish.
	I was just saying you can't censor this because it's a public square.
	And so they said it could lead to precisely the sort of government interference the First Amendment was meant to guard against.
	Not at all. Absolutely false.
	Absolutely false. Do you think for a moment that Madison and Jefferson and all these things, you think they didn't understand the difference between censorship and speech?
	You think they would have supported the biggest, most powerful, wealthiest corporations we've ever seen in the world?
	No. As victims being compelled to do something, they're not compelled to do anything.
	They've got a platform there.
	They don't have to pay any attention to any of this stuff.
	They said, the larger the platform the state seeks to control, the greater will be the state's influence on public and political discourse, said the Committee for Freedom of the Press.
	That is another one of these trade guilds that is trying to shut out everybody except government-approved press.
	But here's the reality. The state is controlling.
	That is the issue.
	The state is controlling all of this censorship.
	It's not that the tech companies told you that for years.
	We've seen the documents.
	We've seen the conspiracy notes going back and forth between Biden and these social media platforms.
	Get rid of this one. Get rid of that one.
	The state is controlling it.
	And instead, when you try to stop that by saying you can't kick people off, you can't silence them, They come back and say, well, now the state's trying to control speech.
	Just amazing how they turn things upside down and inside out.
	By the way, somebody sent this to me.
	Infowars is banned videos now being blocked by X. This is not censorship, by the way, of them particularly or their viewpoints.
	This is something that Musk has done for all platforms.
	You know, he did it with BitChute.
	He did it with Substack. He sees...
	He wants X to be, you know, the AOL, if you will, of the Internet.
	You know, AOL used to try to keep everybody in their universe.
	He wants everybody to go on to X on Twitter and stay there.
	He doesn't want you directing anybody out to anything else.
	That's what this is about. But again, you know, they're trying to make this about a victimhood thing.
	But... I don't know.
	Maybe it just doesn't work when you suck up to Musk, does it, Alex?
	Conservatives are going to get wrecked.
	A new Florida free speech poison pill.
	And again, you know, when you look at what Florida has done, even that law that I would support, except it's too narrowly defined, it's only for politicians.
	Florida took the lead in terms of hate speech in order to get money from Jewish donors in Florida.
	He goes to Israel and he signs a bill making quote-unquote hate speech, making that a felony. And now they've got something else.
	They're going to modify the libel laws. And as Stephen Miller, who was a Trump speechwriter, says this is going to be horrible.
	This is going to result in lawsuits shutting down conservative alternative press.
	Maybe that's the purpose of this.
	Because what it does is it changes the definition of libel.
	The bill would narrow the definition of, or defamation I should say, would narrow the definition of a public figure in such a way as to make it easier in most cases to win a defamation claim.
	Unelected public officials.
	Who are we talking about here?
	We're talking about bureaucrats like Fauci.
	An unelected public official.
	Don't criticize them.
	If they had to defend themselves against accusations, you'd criticize somebody like Fauci, an unelected public official.
	Under this Florida law, Fauci could sue you and not have to prove actual malice.
	You couldn't say that, look, he did this or he did that.
	Even if it's factual, he could say, well, that's defamation and sue you.
	They've got some bad ideas about free speech in Florida.
	That, I think, was DeSantis' Achilles heel, really.
	And it's really going to be bad in Florida.
	And then finally, before we take a break, in Ireland.
	The Irish should reject the new hate speech bill, writes Paul Coleman in The Critic.
	He said the Republic of Ireland could soon become one of the worst violators of the human right to free speech in the Western world.
	They claim to espouse liberal ideas, but the bill called Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offenses Bill.
	All this stuff is always coming in with hate offenses.
	Would usher in a dangerous new standard for state-driven censorship.
	The expression or the possession of content or even ideas deemed hateful would be illegal under the law with serious implications for everyday people simply seeking to live according to their convictions.
	Well, it didn't take long for God to judge the nation of Ireland, did it?
	After they made abortion legal.
	That's my opinion.
	That's where I think this is coming from.
	The Irish need only look to the case of a Finnish member of parliament, whose name I cannot pronounce.
	It's got too many umlauts on too many vowels.
	I have no idea. The woman who was a Finnish minister through a couple of different...
	She'd been an elected official.
	She'd been appointed. She's criminally prosecuted and has been undergoing this now for over four years because she had a Bible verse tweet.
	And the Finnish state prosecutors have lost twice, and now they're appealing it to the Supreme Court.
	They're not giving up.
	It's now going into its fifth year, and she's being charged under the Finnish criminal code titled War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity.
	What was her so-called crime?
	She shared her Christian position on marriage and sexuality in a 2019 Twitter post.
	Oh, you can only have a certain opinion about marriage and sexuality, right?
	And that wasn't her opinion.
	You see, free speech is always tied up with free elections, free exercise of religion.
	Always. That's why when you look at the First Amendment, you've got the right to protest, the right to redress your grievances, the free exercise of religion, not the establishment, but the exercise, the individual exercise of religion.
	All those things are tied up with free speech.
	And it's not just a free press.
	Free speech is about speech of you and I. It's not about CNN. And so her church decided to be a sponsor at a Helsinki Pride event.
	She said, well, the Bible says in Romans, you know, says this, and so they are now prosecuting her, continually prosecuting her for crimes against humanity and trying to set this up as an EU precedent.
	In addition to her comments on a 2019 radio debate and in a church pamphlet that she authored nearly 20 years before, the Lutheran bishop was also charged alongside her for publishing the booklet for his congregation.
	Hate speech laws are pervasive throughout Europe.
	Ireland, however, is setting a new low bar for censorship.
	The draft bill that they have in Ireland will have a sentence of up to five years in prison for the mere possession of hateful material.
	Well, you see, if you quote the Bible to them, and they say that's a hate crime, and they're going to take you all the way up to the Supreme Court, multiple hits at this, guess what they think of the Bible?
	They think the Bible is hate speech.
	And so the mere possession of a Bible in Ireland under this law Could be a felony for you.
	Back to Fahrenheit 451, right?
	They say that they have to do this because the rising violence in Ireland following a surge of incidents largely tied to tensions over immigration.
	Yeah, the open borders have become a cat's paw for chaos.
	And then here's your solution.
	Well, we got open borders.
	We're going to have to have you get a digital ID. We're going to have to track and trace your movement.
	We're going to have to make you get permission to get a job.
	And we're going to have to shut down your free speech because people are getting angry over this open border thing, you know.
	We got all these people being brought in without any means of support who don't want anything, don't want to be a part of this culture, this country.
	They just want what we've got.
	It's a massive army of looters.
	And people are getting angry about that.
	So now we've got to shut down your free speech because you're angry about that.
	The thought of Irish police raiding homes to seize materials, including books, Bibles, and I would say Bibles.
	They don't mention Bibles there, but of course there's going to be Bibles.
	Even something as ridiculous as memes on a phone.
	You think that they're going to come after memes on a phone?
	They're not going to come after the Bible?
	Well, they've read Romans.
	They've read Leviticus. They know what the Bible says.
	What is clear, per the draft law's wording, though, is that even refusing to turn over your phone password to authorities could be enough to land you a conviction.
	So if you don't allow them to go through your phone looking for stuff, they could convict you on the basis of that.
	Furthermore, the bill contains an infinite number of gender identities as protected characteristics.
	Better use their preferred pronouns.
	Or you've got a felony hate crime.
	This is the problem with hate crimes.
	These would be given the protection of criminal law, creating a situation where perceived criticism is criminally persecuted.
	And finally, hatred is not defined.
	And when they asked government ministers about it, they see that as a feature, not a bug.
	But it is a bug. Because...
	What they say is it's left subject to the whims of those people who are in power.
	In other words, it's not objective.
	There's not an objective standard of hate.
	It's all subjective.
	As ominously put by Irish Senator Barry Ward, he says, Well, I don't think there's any doubt in people's minds about the material we're talking about.
	Yeah. So there's no definition here, right?
	We've rejected the inclusion of any definition in the bill, said the Irish minister for justice.
	He said it would hamper our ability to secure convictions.
	If we had an objective standard, we couldn't just come after anybody we dislike.
	And if we had a written law, Then I couldn't dictate to you what the law is.
	You see, a dictator, the law is in your mouth.
	It's whatever I say.
	It's whatever I think at any given moment.
	We don't have something written down to be objectively determined.
	It's all subjective.
	And if I don't like you, well, it's precisely the vagueness inherent in defining hate that makes the law appealing to a state seeking to wield its power.
	This person rightfully says.
	Is this the future that Ireland wants?
	Well, if so, then those who favor this should be honest enough to admit it.
	It truly, truly is criminal.
	Well, the...
	We're going to take a quick break. I've got a new song here.
	I was going to play for you what the little ditty was that I based this on.
	It was, since we're talking about Ireland, it was a virtual instrument, an Irish harp, that I got for free.
	And in it, they had a little MIDI sequence.
	It was a demo of the harp and some of its capabilities.
	I thought, well, that's kind of interesting.
	And so I built this.
	We'll use this as a bumper here.
	I built this around the little Irish harp diddy that you'll hear at the center of this.
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	Let's talk a little bit about gold.
	Super Bowl market in gold is about to start, says Charles Nenner.
	He is a geopolitical and financial cycle expert.
	He says the war cycle will continue to amplify until World War III breaks out.
	Same thing Gerald Slenty is saying, right?
	Meanwhile, unpayable debt will continue to explode until another Great Depression hits America again.
	Fourth turning, as we point out.
	Always financial unrest.
	And a fourth turning. Always.
	But usually accompanied by war as well.
	Again, the previous fourth turning is about every four generations, about every 80 years.
	You have a massive restructuring of institutions accompanied by financial unrest, usually accompanied by war.
	The previous fourth turning was the Great Depression and World War II. Prior to that, Civil War.
	Prior to that, the American Revolution.
	Strauss and Howe, who coined the term millennial, went back 500 years in British and American history to show that cycle, repeated over and over again, and the different characteristics of the different four generations.
	Again, they coined the term millennial.
	Everybody looks at these different generations now.
	But the press that talks all the time about Generation X and Z and all this stuff and millennials, they don't want you to see the cyclical nature of it.
	And they don't want you to see the time and the season that we're in.
	So they won't address the fourth turning specifically.
	But again, as I also pointed out, when they predicted that it was going to begin in the middle 2000s, they said that in the early 90s.
	You know, about 15 years before it kicked off.
	They said, the mid-2000s is going to be some kind of a global financial issue that's going to kick off the fourth turning.
	And it'll probably result in war, and it'll probably be finished about 2029 or something like that.
	But when you look at the timing, and you look at the fact that it is usually accompanied by war, they also mentioned, like I said, they went back 500 years in American and British history, and But they said, now the world has become synchronized.
	Synchronized. We're all on the same cycle because we have global media and, you know, there's so much feedback that is happening with that.
	Everybody is on this cycle.
	This is why this fourth turning is going to be really big.
	Different civilizations have had fourth turnings at different times, depending on whether or not they were in close contact with each other.
	Russia's The 72-year flirtation with communism was like that, but it wasn't synchronized.
	But when we go back and we look at the Civil War, we were synchronized in the Industrial Revolution with Europe.
	And so you had several of these consolidation moves, which is what the Civil War was.
	You had the Civil War in Italy at exactly the same time, 1861 to 1865.
	And it was about the Industrial Revolution.
	The dollar's buying power, he says, could possibly be cut in half.
	He said, that's the reason why we expect a Super Bowl market in gold and silver when the cycle bottoms.
	You remember I came on and said, coming but not yet, to the person he gave the interview to.
	He says, I said it was too early, but now we're getting very close to a bull market.
	Gold could still have one more down move because the cycles are still down.
	But again, regardless of the timing of all of this stuff, that's one of the reasons why, you know, Tony's got his...
	There's a program where you can gradually purchase gold in his Wolfpack thing at Wise Wolf.
	And again, you can get there with davidknight.gold will take you to Tony Arterman's Wise Wolf.
	But, you know, just buying it as you want to set aside some time, set aside some money in terms of savings, average out your costs, because it is coming.
	We don't know the exact timing of all this.
	On Bitcoin, Nenner says, we had a high of $54,000, and we said if we hit $52,000, we would sell ours.
	He says, I don't believe this story that Bitcoin will hit $100,000 based on my work.
	He says, it's been proven that NASDAQ and Bitcoin go up and down together.
	Why? Because people are buying them out of greed, he says.
	And we've got more to say about what is happening with Nigeria coming after their war on crypto as they try to push through CBDC. But before we leave the war angle, this is another one from Von Greerz.
	And I like the headline.
	War plus inflation equals gold.
	Well, that's where we are right now.
	Inflation and war.
	Pointing to gold.
	Says all the fundamentals are now in place for that equation to be true.
	Wars will sadly not go away, but instead escalate, since there is zero, all uppercase, zero desire for peace from the U.S. neocons or from the weak Europeans.
	Inflation and interest rates will increase rapidly, driven by deficits and exponential growth of debt.
	Wars and inflation will lead to major shift into gold by central banks and the BRICS as well as for wealth preservation purposes.
	He said, Aristotle said 2,300 years ago, poverty is the parent of revolution and crime.
	And he said, and I would also add war.
	Poverty, the parent of revolution, crime, and war.
	He said, I added war since this is often the consequence of poverty and bankruptcy for a nation in a desperate attempt to borrow more money and to blame the war for the economic woes.
	This is one of the reasons why Gerald Slenty says, well, when all else fails, they take you to war to reset the table.
	He said, the U.S. is not led by a visible leader.
	That's right. We're not being led by Biden.
	Everybody likes to say everything that happens is Biden's fault, and technically it is.
	It's his administration. You know, we call it the Biden administration because, you know, he's there, but, you know, he's kind of like the corporate symbol, like, you know, Mickey Mouse is for Disney.
	Mickey Mouse is not real.
	Mickey Mouse is not making the decisions, but he's the visible face of the corporation, and that's what Biden is.
	That's what Trump is, the visible face of the corporation.
	So we're not led by a visible leader, but by an invisible and unaccountable group of neocons who only want war.
	And of course, as Christians, we understand we don't struggle with flesh and blood.
	We struggle with rulers in high places, an unseen realm that is evil, that is conspiring.
	That's why this all looks like a conspiracy, because it is.
	It is a multi-generational conspiracy.
	You know, we can talk about some of the families that are tied in, like the Rothschilds, for example.
	Or the Rockefellers or whatever.
	But, you know, this goes through multiple generations, through multiple institutions and everything.
	And, of course, a lot of them pass this on as well.
	But this relentlessness that is there, this dogged determinism that is there.
	Also, I am so tired of the term neocon.
	I think we've got to do away with it.
	They're not conservative and these ideas aren't new.
	Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
	These are just socialists.
	They're communists. Stop.
	Just stop it with these terms.
	Yeah, they like to call themselves conservative because it used to be cool to be called a conservative.
	It's kind of losing its coolness here now.
	They're now MAGA-cons, I guess.
	But yeah, you're right.
	It's, you know, the neocons.
	These are people, you know, the reason this came up was because you had...
	You had people who had been Democrats, especially during the Reagan administration.
	What was that woman's name?
	I can't remember. She was one of the worst warmongers.
	But she was a good example of this.
	Oh, well, now I'm a born-again conservative, right?
	She never was. And as I've said many times, you've heard me say it.
	You know, the Democrats of my youth are now communists.
	The Republicans of my youth are now socialist Democrats.
	The Republicans have now become the socialist Democrats of my youth.
	Everything has shifted to that degree.
	So he said, we don't have a visible leader.
	We've got a group of warmongers.
	And in Europe, there's no statesman to be found.
	Instead, we have weak European leaders who are following a headless U.S. The U.S. neocons want to crush Russia by any means.
	If the war against Russia carried out in Ukraine escalates, Russia will have many friends on their side, like China, North Korea, Iran.
	The U.S. and NATO do not have the capacity to win a war on the ground, so any war involving the West will be in the air, very likely nuclear.
	It's kind of interesting, you know, we sent them the M1 Abrams tanks, which I believe are state-of-the-art tanks.
	They haven't been redesigned for several decades, but they didn't really need to.
	They were so dominant, and still dominant compared to what other countries have.
	But tanks are not really doing well in this war.
	It's kind of like battleships in World War II. They were of use in previous wars, but not so much now.
	And so, that had already been said.
	And so, at the end of the week, last week, we had the first of the M1 Abrams tanks going to war.
	And they put up a video of it in Ukraine, and it's going down this muddy road, and, you know, it pauses, and it shoots a long distance, and you see something blow up.
	It shoots the second time, you see something else further on blow up and everything.
	And so they did this, and they put it up.
	This war, folks, is a product placement war for the military-industrial complex.
	Oh, look, here's our M1 Abrams tank in battle.
	And it gives them bragging rights so they can go to some ten-pot dictator and sell their multi-million dollar hardware to him.
	Look at how well this is performing and everything.
	What they don't want to see are pictures of their premier product burning.
	And that's what's happened now.
	They put it in the service at the end of the week.
	At the beginning of the week, the first one is taken out.
	And Russia put the picture of that up.
	And it said, the M1 Abrams tanks burn like all the rest of them.
	Now, of course, as we look at this, it's not simply about the hardware, but it's also about the people inside, isn't it?
	Do they care about the people inside?
	The people running NATO, the people running our government, don't care about the people inside of the tank, and they don't care about the people inside of Ukraine either.
	Because they... Created this coup a decade ago, 2014.
	And for eight years, that government that they put in place shelled civilian populations in Donetsk and Crimea for the sin of wanting self-governance or the sin of wanting to be with Russia because they had a Russian culture.
	They shelled civilian populations for eight years.
	The people in Ukraine were already sick of war.
	And they voted in 2019.
	After five years of that, they voted for a party that promised peace.
	That was Zelensky's party.
	And Arrestovich, who I've talked about many times, Alexei Arrestovich, who was going to be their negotiator.
	And they come back and the Ukraine press says, so what's the chance of peace?
	He says, none. As a matter of fact, it's going to get worse.
	We're going to be devastated. Oh, that's horrible.
	No, the good news is we're going to get into NATO. And so that's the ruthlessness of our government.
	Just like they overthrew Iran with the Iranian duly elected leftist.
	Yeah, he's a leftist. He was going to nationalize the oil industries and stuff, but they elected him.
	All these people would say, well, democracy this and democracy that.
	They elected him in 1953 or something.
	The CIA overthrew him in a coup.
	They put in the Shah, a king.
	They trained his secret police, the Savak, To ruthlessly shut down any opposition.
	And what did we get from that?
	That ruthless Shah regime and the Savak created the Ayatollahs, put them in power as a blowback against all of that stuff.
	The U.S. also wants to crush the Muslim Arab world.
	The U.S. is also supporting Israel against Hamas and the Houthis in Yemen.
	By the way, the Houthis just blew up An undersea cable, communications cable, cutting off Europe from the people in that area.
	The hooties. I wonder if they used a blowfish to do that.
	A cyber war is also very likely.
	The U.S. has absolutely no desire for peace.
	War plus inflation equals gold.
	Now that's the thing that you, what can you do about this stuff?
	Well, you know, there's certain things that you can do and certain things you can't do.
	You really can't stop these people who are hell-bent on war, hell-bent on a World War, a World War III that already got three, you know, two hot areas, and they're working on a third one with China.
	You can't do anything about that.
	But you can prepare financially.
	For the effects of war plus inflation.
	You can do that with gold. Again, davidknight.gold will take you to Tony Arterman.
	Let's take a look at the CBDC thing.
	Nigeria is blocking access to Coinbase, to Binance, to Kraken as their Naira, their currency, as it falls to record lows.
	Nigeria has taken drastic measures in an attempt to stabilize its plummeting national currency by blocking access to major cryptocurrency exchanges, reports the Financial Times.
	This move comes as the Nigerian government attempts to crack down on currency speculation amid record lows for the Naira.
	The Nigerian Communications Commission issued orders to telecom companies late on Wednesday to restrict consumer access to websites of major cryptocurrency platforms like Binance, Coinbase, and Kraken.
	So in other words, they launched a cyber attack, if you will.
	You can do the same thing by a false flag cyber attack or something like that, but they're just going out and saying, no, you're not going to buy crypto.
	Why? Because they have tried...
	What is interesting about Nigeria is that it's the canary in a coal mine for this globalist scheme of imposing CBDC on the rest of us.
	And so they went there because they said, well, there's a lot of people who are using cryptocurrency in Nigeria compared to other comparable countries in the third world or, say, the developing world or whatever.
	And so there was already a lot of people using cryptocurrency.
	So I said, well, we think that they might be amenable to a CBDC. And so they introduced the CBDC. They tried to shove it in very quickly.
	They tried to remove cash.
	A whole thing blew up in their face, and everybody ran to crypto.
	So what's the response?
	We're going to shut down the exchanges.
	Yeah, shut down the crypto exchanges.
	This came out as people were talking.
	It looks like they've blocked access to this stuff.
	And so the special advisor for information and strategy to the president of Nigeria went to social media to say, yes, the press reports are correct.
	The Nigerian government is blocking Binance, OktaFX, Coinbase, and others, he said.
	So the cryptocurrency exchanges have played a big role in establishing unofficial market prices for their currency with platforms like Binance offering or often serving as benchmarks for local foreign currency exchange rates.
	You see, you have something that...
	You can't just arbitrarily go in and change the value of it, and you can't manipulate it.
	That's what the cryptocurrencies are about.
	That's what gold and silver are about.
	You have something like that that's not easily manipulated by them, and it becomes a problem for them in terms of manipulating the value of their fiat currency.
	As I mentioned before, years ago, Jim Rogers, who was an assistant to Soros at one point in time, but he doesn't share Soros' politics, but Soros kind of got rich off of Jim Rogers' savviness.
	But back in the early 90s, he wrote a book called Investment Biker, and he went around the world.
	Of course, he had to take planes and boats to some of the places, but he went around the world on a motorcycle, With his girlfriend, making observations about what life was, and mostly financial observations.
	And the key one that I remember from that book was he said, you can always tell how corrupt a government is by looking at the difference in exchange rate between the official exchange rate and the black market exchange rate, the real exchange rate.
	And if that is really wide, you know it's a very corrupt government.
	Well, you know that about Nigeria now.
	Crypto should be banned in our country.
	Or else this bleeding of our currency will continue unabated.
	This person is coming from the same place as Liz Warren and these other people.
	Nigeria's adoption of rash methods to defend its currency, including shutting down websites, declaring certain cryptocurrency entities illegal, Highlights the challenges the countries face in managing economic stability.
	But this is all about them pushing CBDC. That is really what they're focusing on.
	Finally, one last monetary article here.
	I thought this was ominous.
	You have national parks are quietly going cashless.
	Cashless. April of last year, Death Valley Park in California, for example, announced they would only receive credit and or debit card payments.
	They claim that they took in $22,000 in cash payments, but it cost them $40,000 to have it processed.
	Oh, really? I don't believe that at all.
	I mean, what about your credit card fees?
	No, we know what this is about, and we know this is about gradually strangling the use of cash to limit our travels, for example.
	We're not going to go to a national park.
	I think it's bad enough that we should have to pay to get into the parks, don't you?
	I think it's an outrage that the last park that they didn't have an entrance fee to, the one here, Great Smoky Mountain National Park, they had to claw their way into that because there was already a road running through it and they couldn't just shut down the road.
	And so there was an agreement with the state of Tennessee that they would not charge any admission to it.
	It's one of the reasons why it was the most heavily visited park.
	So they came up with a workaround and said, well, okay, it's not going to be an entrance fee, but if you stop your car, we can give you a ticket for parking unless you pay.
	And now you're going to have to do that cashlessly because that is what is being forced upon us.
	We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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	I'm going to play a song for you.
	I want to talk a little bit about what is happening with Trump's trials and tribulations, of course.
	And there has now been a new development.
	According to Jim Jordan, he says he's got a whistleblower saying that there was a Biden operative inserted into the Fannie team.
	And so the corruption just keeps building for this corrupt district attorney, Fannie Willis.
	It looks like both she and her boyfriend, who is married, Looks like both of them have committed perjury when questioned about their relationship.
	This is a pretty serious charge that is happening, but of course, it was also amazing when she talked about her use of cash.
	Well, I just don't have any records about what I did with him.
	Especially in light, as Reason Magazine pointed out, in light of her department, Using RICO laws and civil asset forfeiture laws to such a great extent.
	Anybody else other than her, you have a stash of cash?
	Well, that is criminal. Let me have that cash.
	Because civil asset forfeiture is going to appeal to somebody who is a criminal.
	It is a criminal operation.
	When they start stealing cash and not convicting people, let alone even charging them with a crime, That's just government theft.
	And you wind up, when you go along with that, you wind up with people like Fannie Willis, who on the trial was asked about her cash hoard, and she thought something else was being asked of her.
	My words. Cash hoard that you had collected over time.
	Cash what? Hoard. H-O-R-D-E. I thought you said something different, sir.
	No, I'm afraid I wouldn't say that.
	Any circumstances to you or in hoard.
	All right, back on track. The hoard.
	Cash hoard. I would not.
	She's not taking this very seriously.
	That's how drunk with power she is.
	Yeah, I did all this stuff and broke all these laws.
	But they can't touch me.
	I'm a district attorney.
	She also had this to say about her stacks of cash.
	But I always have cash at the house.
	That has been, I don't know, all my life.
	If you're a woman and you go on a date with a man, you better have $200 in your pocket.
	So if that man acts up, you can go where you want to go.
	So I keep cash in my house.
	And I don't keep cash as good in my purse like I used to because I don't go on many dates, but when you go on a date, you should have cash in your pocket.
	So my question was, where did that cash originally come from if it didn't come out of the bank?
	Cash is fungible.
	We've had cash for years in my house.
	So for me to tell you the source of where it comes from, when you go to Publix and you buy something, you get $50, you throw it in there.
	It's been my whole life.
	When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that.
	Like, to tell you I just have cash in my house.
	I don't have as much today as I would normally have, but I'm building back up now.
	You just put money in. It's a very good practice.
	I would advise it to all women.
	Unless there's some kind of a district attorney like her, somebody who's involved in the scam of civil asset forfeiture.
	So many times people pulled over.
	What's the cash you've got in there?
	You've got a stack of cash in there.
	Well, I just sold something and I'm on my way home, you know, even if they can prove it.
	The cops and people like this district attorney will steal it from them.
	One standard for them, another standard for us.
	And then there's this.
	Was this being orchestrated by Biden?
	Well, of course we know it was, right?
	But now he says he's got a whistleblower there.
	The Biden administration, says Jim Jordan, planted a Democrat operative in the Fulton County office to target former President Trump and to coordinate all this stuff, right?
	Well, here's the thing.
	Yes, we are a banana republic.
	But the question is, I would ask Jim Jordan, who I think is one of the worst showboaters out there, when are you going to shut up and do something?
	You keep holding these hearings and yet you won't pass any laws to reform any of this stuff.
	They do nothing except preen for the cameras.
	You got all this corruption.
	Why can't you make this a federal crime?
	You know, that's what they say the FBI is for.
	Well, we got corrupt local officials who bring in the federal officials to keep them in line.
	You don't do anything, Jim.
	You and the Republicans do nothing about any of this stuff.
	We all see what's happening here.
	But does everybody see how passive these Republicans are about it?
	How they normalize this or they might come in and say well, we're gonna do it ourselves So the guy that supposedly is coordinating with him his name is DeSantis, but it's with an eye so I guess it's Dysantis I don't know interesting coincidence there, but Again They said you know on that grand jury there wasn't a single conservative person on that grand jury Well, of course not. The grand jury is a rigged process, as we've heard and said over and over again.
	They set up these grand juries so they can indict a ham sandwich.
	And they're just testing their case.
	And they test their case frequently with people who are not, you know, going to be questioning it too heavily.
	I thought this was an excellent article from Peter Leithert on First Things.
	And he's not a Trump supporter, just like me.
	And the question is, why is Trump still wildly popular?
	A question I continue to ask myself.
	He states it like this.
	He says, despite a mountain of indictments and relentless media assaults, Trump remains wildly popular with a large portion of the American people, despite his history of sexual promiscuity, dishonesty, exaggeration, despite his evident fickleness, his recklessness, his narcissism, his vulgarity, his adultery.
	I could go on and on. He stops there at vulgarity, but millions of Christians will vote for him.
	He says, self-identified evangelicals who aren't active churchgoers are his strongest supporters.
	But there's plenty of enthusiasm among committed Christians and Jews as well.
	He says, some have explained this phenomenon by charging that evangelicals have adopted a religion of power, exchanging Messiah Jesus for Messiah Donald, the Savior of America.
	No doubt there is slippage and rationalization amongst Christian Trumpists.
	But that can't be the whole story, he says.
	Nor is it a matter of dispassionate political calculation, as if Trump were marginally better than the other bad options.
	Christian support of Trump this time around is not grudging, but fervent, often gleeful.
	It won't do to dismiss these millions of people as deluded hypocrites or hordes seething with anger.
	Most of them are old-fashioned Americans, good church-going neighbors with jobs, children and hopes for the future.
	Only a sociologist could suspect them of harboring authoritarian tendencies.
	He says, I don't share the enthusiasm for Trump, but friends and millions of fellow citizens do.
	And so I wanted to understand what they see.
	He says, I found Rene Girard's theory of sacrificial crisis and scapegoating to be helpful in grasping the political rationality at work in the pro-Trump order.
	And so as an example of this, I want to play for you.
	This is something going around on social media now.
	You have the ability with artificial intelligence to clone voices and to also translate into different languages.
	And so somebody took a fragment of a Hitler speech, and they cloned his voice and translated it into English.
	And I want you to, first it shows him in black and white, you know, screaming in German, which sounds a lot scarier.
	But then he starts talking in English, so that you can understand what he's saying.
	Ooh! My work for real.
	If you think that I was fast, that I do my work for correctness.
	Whether you believe that I have been diligent, that I have worked, that I have advocated for you in these years, that I have been decent, I have spent my time in service of my people.
	Now cast your vote.
	If yes, then stand up for me as I am.
	Stand up for me as I have stood up for you.
	I've worked hard, diligently.
	Look at what I have sacrificed.
	Look at what I have suffered.
	I'm between you and them.
	They're only coming after me because I'm between you and them.
	Yeah. According to Gerard, he says, humans desire things because other people desire them.
	We want to keep up with the Joneses or be like Mike.
	The problem is many things cannot be shared.
	If two men desire the same woman, for example, they cannot both have her.
	They become rivals.
	They form a classic love triangle with all the scarce resources.
	When desire doubles itself, it inclines toward violence.
	As a society reaches a sacrificial crisis that Gerard talks about, when everyone is locked in rivalry with everyone else over everything, society dissolves into a war of all against all.
	At that point, ancient cultures had a ready solution.
	You bring forth a scapegoat who is marked by some distinctive physical features.
	Lame or blind or black sheep or something like that.
	Heap up all the accumulated hostilities and hatreds on him so society can be reconciled around a common object or hatred.
	After the scapegoat is expelled or killed, peace reigns until the next crisis.
	Scapegoats can be corporate.
	It can be Jews. It can be Trotskyites.
	It can be Christians in the Roman Empire.
	It could be white people today in the eyes of the American government, right?
	They're the problem. Everything comes back to white privilege.
	Everything comes back to this and that.
	We've seen this over and over again.
	This is not simply to...
	You know, it's to unify the country against a common enemy, is what he's talking about.
	And of course, that's what the Nazis did with the Jews.
	That's what the American government is doing with white people.
	According to Gerard, Christianity undoes this scapegoat mechanism by insisting on the innocence of the scapegoat.
	Jesus is not guilty and never pretends to be.
	Neither do his disciples or the early Christian martyrs.
	And remember, martyr is simply Greek for witness.
	These are people who were killed because they refused to deny what they had witnessed.
	But again, they were not guilty.
	They insist that their killers are the guilty ones.
	When the scapegoat doesn't cooperate in his own execution, the whole system grinds to a halt or implodes, and a new ordering of society becomes possible.
	A fourth turning is what we're in.
	American society is at a critical moment, he says.
	We have a war of faction against faction against faction against faction.
	One faction trots out an orange-haired scapegoat, Trump.
	And for many of our elites, Trump is a moral threat to democracy, the chief source of disorder, the mobilizer of the deplorables.
	Remove him and peace will flow like a river.
	He must be destroyed to save democracy.
	The problem is Trump isn't acting like a scapegoat, whatever his personal religious convictions, if he has any.
	In this drama, he's acting the part of an early church martyr.
	I've done nothing wrong.
	It's a witch hunt, he keeps saying.
	And from that standpoint, he's right.
	And this is what makes him a sympathetic victim.
	And this is what makes his popularity skyrocket every time they indict him.
	So that's why they gave him 92 indictments and why they've got this sham case in New York.
	Because the Democrats want him.
	They want him there.
	As the anti-scapegoat, he refuses to admit guilt or defeat even when he is defeated.
	As long as he plays the anti-scapegoat, as long as America remains contentious, Trump's enemies don't win.
	Many Christians and conservatives believe his enemies are also their enemies, which means that Trump's intransigence keeps their enemies from winning too.
	Well, again, this is, you know, what Hitler was telling people as well.
	You know, they're coming after me because I worked hard for you.
	Now vote for me, support me, that type of thing.
	The elites who despise Trump disdain benighted Americans who cling to their guns and their religion.
	The people who want to destroy Trump want to reprogram the millions whose restless discontent he's done so much to unleash.
	And so what do we do about this?
	Well, the reality is, The principles matter.
	We have to see the overall game.
	We have to understand the game that both sides are playing in this.
	You have to go back and you have to look at his, is he really the scapegoat?
	Or is he a fake goat?
	Is he a Judas goat?
	You see, that is how I see him.
	That is how I see him because of what he did in 2020.
	That is how I see him because of January the 6th in 2021.
	And that is how I see him today.
	A man totally devoid of any principles, who is driven by narcissism, revenge, and I would also add greed, endless greed.
	And he is available to whoever wants to pull his strings and to give him cash.
	And yet, that's the way people see him.
	They see him as a scapegoat.
	And we should be very careful about that.
	Again, without calling him Hitler, we need to understand the dynamics of that and the psychology of that.
	And we need to not see him as a pathetic, helpless victim.
	He refused to give a helping hand to even his own followers.
	He refused to help Julian Assange.
	He refused to help the January 6th people.
	He refused to help Middle America.
	He called Middle America non-essential.
	So I hope you can see what he does and see beyond this play.
	It's a theater, right?
	Professional wrestling, it's theater.
	And these are the archetypes that you're being fed.
	Meanwhile, when we look at the actual reality of what is happening on the ground in terms of, like I said, rightly or wrongly, and I think it's wrongly, this conviction in New York that he has, But the massive amount there, that's a big problem for him.
	And now, even as he puts in Laura Trump, and of course they're going to, you know, by Super Tuesday, by March 5th, they just had Rona McDaniel say she's going to leave the RNC. And so he will consolidate himself as the anointed king after Super Tuesday.
	Nikki Haley says she's going to stay in until Super Tuesday.
	She'll get out. She most likely will continue to go on with no labels or something like that because they said they're not going to make their decision until after Super Tuesday.
	She's going to stay until Super Tuesday.
	They're going to make their decision after Super Tuesday.
	We'll see what happens with that.
	Meanwhile, Trump will be the anointed nominee, and that's when the changing of the guard happens at the RNC. Now, Trump has already said that she's got one job there at the RNC, and that is to make sure that every penny Every penny that is raised by the Republican National Committee goes to electing Trump.
	Forget about any governorships.
	Forget about Congress.
	Democrats can have Congress.
	All we need is Trump in the White House.
	He can do everything by himself.
	It's a destruction of the RNC from the inside.
	They've already, though, had some pushback on this.
	The RNC, people have said, well, we want to make sure that the...
	Money that the RNC has is not going to be used to pay for Trump's legal debt.
	And you have a columnist saying that the RNC plans will not pay for that legal debt.
	So that depends on whether or not that's going to hold on.
	He's going to put his, you know, a person who has close ties to him in, plus his daughter-in-law to do that.
	So again, he's got this $454 million judgment.
	In this New York civil case.
	And he needs to appeal, but he's got to come up with that money or they're going to start confiscating property.
	But this appeal is going to go on for quite some time.
	And this appeal is going to be made to an intermediate.
	This is a state court, by the way.
	This is not federal.
	And so, who is he going to appeal this to?
	Well, first there's going to be an intermediate court.
	Ultimately, he's going to go to the Supreme Court of New York.
	And look at this.
	All rise, this all African-American bench, which happens to have all women,
	Well, isn't that interesting?
	So when he gets to the New York Supreme Court, I don't know what's going to happen in the intermediate stuff, but when he gets to the New York Supreme Court, He's going to be going up before all of the members, or all black women.
	There'll be Democrats just like Letitia James.
	And as they point out, despite only accounting for 1.5% of lawyers, 100% of the New York State Supreme Court are black women.
	What are his chances with that?
	Getting a fair hearing. Well, I don't think it's looking too good for him in New York.
	And of course, it is all political.
	And we know that these justice appointments are all political.
	It is not blind justice by any means.
	But did you notice that when they're introducing those Supremes, you know, it's all black girl group, that one of them was named Diane.
	So we'll go out with something from the Supremes.
	Let me breathe, why don't you, baby?
	Get out my life, why don't you, baby?
	Cause you don't really love me You just keep me hanging on You don't really need me But you keep me hanging on Why do you keep coming around?
	Playing with my heart Why don't you get out of my life And let me make a new start The Common Man They created common core to dumb down our children.
	They created common past to track and control us.
	Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing.
	And the communist future.
	They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary.
	But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God.
	That is what we have in common.
	That is what they want to take away.
	Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation.
	They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us.
	It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide.
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	TheDavidKnightShow.com Michael Lawson, he just told me he couldn't hear the Supremes.
	He loves that group, but he didn't get the audio feed of the music coming out there.
	Jack Lawson, publisher of Civil Defense Manual, the two-volume book that you can find at civildefensemanual.com.
	We talk about it here frequently.
	It covers so many different topics.
	But, you know, today we've got a lot of different topics to talk about here because there are so many different threats on the horizon and they're all escalating in so many different ways.
	So joining us now is Jack Lawson.
	Thank you for joining us, sir. Always a pleasure, David.
	Always a pleasure. Good to have you on.
	Let's talk a little bit about, you know, the first time we ever talked.
	Let's begin with what happened with AT&T last week because the first time we ever talked, we talked about how fragile the infrastructure is.
	And so, you know, we had the cell phones go down and part of And that was, as I talked about last week, the effect that happened was it grounded a lot of transportation, a lot of trucking was shut down because it created complications for them and dispatchers and other stuff like that.
	So we see over and over again how an attack on some ancillary part of the infrastructure, for example, the pipeline, the colonial pipeline, they shut down their accounting system.
	So then they shut down the pipeline.
	No oil is moving if we can't get paid for it.
	You shut down things like the cell phone system, and of course they have a lot of different apps many truckers depend on when they are running that, so you just shut down all the shipping.
	So it's very easy to shut down stuff like this.
	You've been looking at this, and your son is kind of a computer expert as well, a cybersecurity or something.
	What is your take on it?
	Do you think it was...
	Multiple choice here.
	Was it Solar Flare?
	Was it ransomware? Was it an AT&T upgrade, or was it a hack?
	What do you think? Probably a little bit of everything.
	When I say that, I mean it in this light.
	I've got a friend who I graduated from high school with.
	He's a dirt poor farm kid like me.
	He ended up being a director of electronics for Lockheed for their skunk works.
	And he has a program.
	A lot of them that he looks at, he's retired now, but one of them is the measurement of solar flares.
	And he warned me a couple of days ahead of time that there were going to be some really bad X-class solar storms, which would interfere most likely with a lot of our frequency systems in the country.
	Second thing being, My son is, he's a very intelligent boy.
	I had to joke he was sergeant of his Marine Corps scout sniper unit.
	And I said, you survived that and you still got an IQ of 165.
	So he's gotten himself a really good job.
	He's a very intelligent guy.
	He's the cybersecurity, one of the managers for a Fortune 500 company.
	There's only a couple of them there.
	But he has a very unique perspective of what goes on.
	And he said the hacking has got an epidemic.
	It's never going to stop, no matter what they put in for systems.
	And I think the third thing that everybody is overlooking is the...
	What I actually term the destruction of human productive time by technology colliding with itself.
	When I say technology colliding with itself, I'm talking about such things as normal functions people use on a computer that are constantly being updated, or they're getting to the point to where Two-stage identification, pingbacks, all of this are causing problems with them interrelating with other programs that they've been with.
	I spent an hour and a half yesterday on the phone with my banker and I get a lot of, they helped me out quite a bit and it was, it blew me away what we had to go through to reconnect one particular system. And it's all, it's all from, from some, some of this is
	necessary because of the hacking but I think some of it is also, I was involved with software development one time.
	It was what I call the what-if syndrome.
	People that are working on these programs and are MIS directors are always saying, what if it could do this?
	What if it could do that?
	And they diffuse their activities.
	And in the process, they think that Their system is the only one you're dealing with.
	So, consequently, what you end up with, constant changes to programs that look simple to them and beneficial to the customer, but are a total disaster and are functioning without relating together.
	Yeah. I really think you probably hit part of it there is the, I don't think so much hacking as the solar flares.
	Yeah. No, I looked at the solar flares.
	I thought, well, it looks like this is more heavily focused on AT&T than it is on other carriers, although there were several carriers that were done.
	And I didn't see that anybody, even AT&T, when they came out with it, they said, well, we messed up a software update.
	It's like, okay, well, if you messed up a software update, how did that affect these other companies?
	And if it was a solar flare, and, you know, some people put that out, talked about the X flare that was coming out, but then they also, I think it was NOAA, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said, no, it wasn't a solar flare.
	But when you look at a solar flare, I would have expected that just like an EMP or something, it would have affected a wider range of hardware.
	And it would have been hardware-based, and it would have affected more than just primarily a handful of carriers and primarily AT&T. So I looked at it, and I thought, well, as you point out, it certainly is hardware.
	A cybersecurity nightmare now and is getting worse all the time.
	I just look at this stuff and that's usually my default fallback position.
	Somebody's messing around with something deliberately somewhere.
	Now, who it is, we don't know, right?
	If it's a state actor, anybody can...
	Can look like anything that they want to.
	A Vault 7, we know that, right?
	They've got the tools to disguise themselves as Russia or North Korea or anybody.
	But, you know, is it done because of a criminal gang or is it done by a state actor?
	That's always the things that we can never really know when something like that is happening.
	But it does show the vulnerability.
	And regardless of what happens, whether it is a physical thing Or whether it is a hack attack, whether it's done for private criminals wanting to make money or because of a state attacking another state or because of a false flag attacked by that.
	The bottom line is that we have a very fragile infrastructure, and it continues to get more and more fragile, doesn't it?
	My God, I can't believe how we've painted ourselves in a corner.
	Yeah. We really don't have...
	Much of anything for defense against this type of thing.
	I mean, these people have hacked everything.
	The postal system's tracking service was down from what I can determine during that time.
	My mortgage company, one of the biggest, if not, I think it's the biggest in the nation, my mortgage company was down for 11 days.
	Somebody got inside their system and I don't know what all happened Whether it was a ransomware thing somebody wants 300 million dollars or or whatever to put them back online, but They were feverishly working to get the system functioning yet. Yeah, I cannot believe how we painted ourselves in a corner They it I mean you talk about dropping a nuclear bomb on this country. It just is about as bad Yeah shutting his computer computer systems down. Don't you think?
	Oh, yeah. As a matter of fact, one person I talk to frequently about cybersecurity issues, he just goes by the name of Goatree, he says, you know, when he looks at this, he's a consultant that they hire him to troubleshoot this stuff.
	His fallback position is when something like this happens and it's some kind of an attack or some kind of equipment failure, first thing he looks for is, okay, so what's going on with the people who might profit from this on the inside, you You know, he typically looks at us like an inside job, not necessarily a hack from the outside by a state actor or by a criminal group for ransomware, but usually sometimes it's going to be somebody doing something on the inside because, you know, they're getting ready for retirement and they want to do something.
	Look at the janitor. Yeah, exactly.
	Or the CEO. Yeah, it's just incredible how...
	People don't...
	They just don't have any concept.
	Shut your cell phone off for a day.
	You get an idea of...
	What is the term they have?
	They have a term for it. Addiction.
	No, it's like an abandonment complex for a baby being left outside.
	You know, that's the effect it has in your mind.
	And it just blows me away how...
	Absolutely critical it is that these systems that we're relying on them.
	Yeah. And it just blows me away.
	But outside of that, I'm not any expert on X-class solar floods.
	I just know my friend called me out of the blue.
	And he's got all kinds of electronics degrees.
	And he said, look out, you know, in the next couple of days.
	And there were problems.
	Yeah. Not severe enough to destroy the electronics, but severe enough to enter...
	I've had...
	I was in electronics in the Air Force.
	Archaic now, but it wasn't severe enough to destroy semiconductors.
	It causes a reverse current through them that too...
	It blows them up, essentially.
	When it comes down, it doesn't know which way it's going in a circuit.
	And... If it goes in, it goes in the wrong way.
	It'll go against what is the normal semiconductor flow pattern, and it'll burn it out.
	But it wasn't bad enough for that, but it was bad enough to disrupt the RF signals that were being sent out.
	Yeah, and of course, you and I have talked in the past about EMP and the fact that the government's not doing anything to protect against that.
	But even just the simple stuff, the gross neglect that we see in the border situation.
	That's a whole other area there that we need to be concerned about, and that is the fact that we just have rampant crime, gangs that can come in, that type of thing.
	I mean, your take on the border and the kind of threat that that presents to us and the kinds of things that we need to do to address that threat.
	Well, what blows me away is I ran across something the other day.
	We're talking about, and I'm not picking on anybody's church because there are plenty of them to pick on here.
	I've never even heard of some of these organizations.
	A number one got $742 million.
	Last year was Catholic Charities, U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
	Lutheran Church got $471 million.
	I don't know what Church World Services is.
	433 million.
	World Relief, that's supposed to be another church.
	416 million.
	Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, 186 million.
	the Episcopal migration ministries, whatever that is, 146 million.
	These people don't need anybody to put anything in the offering plate anymore.
	I mean, they have money coming in left, right.
	And Senator, apparently this money is being paid by us, our taxes into the UN and being dispersed back for those people, not on any other basis other than they get paid per head.
	I think it's $300 a head for each person.
	I don't know that for sure.
	Yeah, yeah. It's astounding.
	It's a perfect thing for that because they can always make the case that they're doing it out of compassion and humanitarian interest, and yet there is also a mercenary aspect of it, and they become tools, regardless of what their motivation is, They've become tools of this whole network of NGOs, and I guess maybe Soros is the Pope of some of those churches or something.
	Could be. Or Ursula Fonda Bligh.
	Maybe she's a Pope of one of these churches.
	They can say whatever they want to justify themselves, and I've got this lunatic thinking in my family, too.
	I'll just say this. If you want to live in a third-world country, bring the third world here, which is exactly what they're doing.
	They have no concept of what 6 or 30 million people...
	That are totally alien to our culture, will do to this culture.
	That's right. And as far as these churches professing Altruism on this.
	My last, I parachuted into Zambia in 1978, and I was astounded.
	These guys said, come over here, look at this.
	And I walked over to a pile of suds.
	Suds is ground mealy corn.
	It's like flour is to us.
	It's ground wheat to us. They grind up big kernels of maize corn and put water in it and cook it.
	And I went over there and I just about, if I'd had false teeth, I would have dropped in the ground.
	I could not believe.
	Donated by World Consulate Church's Methodist Senate.
	That's a church I was baptized in.
	That's a church I was brought up in until I told my mom...
	Even despite her threats to waterboard me, I wasn't going anymore.
	And I didn't go to that church for a long time, but I saw this and I was furious about it.
	They knew exactly where this was.
	This was a communist camp, and that's where the food was going, and they knew where it was going.
	And then I find out that 60 Minutes has one full hour on this thing, somewhere around 1984 or 5, Of course, they always report the news when their side has won and they've got another thing to bash, and it was bashing Christianity through this article, but they showed the same thing that I saw.
	And my mother played the organ for 50 years in the Methodist Church.
	I told her about this, and she refused to believe me.
	You know, I mean, rest her soul.
	She's a good woman, but she just couldn't conceive that somebody would do this thing.
	So they can say whatever they want, bringing these people in.
	When Venezuela empties this prison system out, and they're bringing them in, I mean, it's already started to happen.
	Cops were getting attacked.
	And we've seen this before. I grew up in Florida.
	I remember when Castro emptied out his prisons and sent them into Florida.
	That was nothing compared to the scope of what is happening with this.
	And when you look, I've talked many times about that small island in Italy where they had a population of 6,000 people, small island.
	And they brought in 18,000 young single males into that area that was supporting 6,000.
	That's total chaos. That is completely destroyed.
	And that's by design. And again, as you point out, our government is paying for it.
	What do you think about what is happening at the border?
	I mean, I look at this and, you know, at first you can say, well, at least the governors are saying, We have to take some responsibility for this, and if the federal government's not going to act, we need to do something.
	But they're not doing anything.
	I've seen Abbott do these little displays of parking state trooper cars down at the border in a small line.
	I've seen him do that kind of stuff before.
	This is all focused on just one little town in Eagle Pass, right?
	Do you think that anything is going to change, even with these governors talking about this?
	No. I don't either. They're going through the motions like typical politicians do.
	Go through the motions, appear like you're doing something.
	You know who Michael Yahn is.
	He is very, very distrustful of Abbott.
	And I tend to believe what Michael Yahn says because...
	He has sources, I believe, that are calling him in the middle of the night, telling him really what's going on.
	This is all purposeful.
	The attempts by states to stop this certainly won't happen in Arizona, won't happen in New Mexico.
	They're never going to put any kind of a border resistance, or California, Texas, yeah.
	They're going through the motions, but Eagle Pass is not going to stop these people.
	No. And it's only like a two-mile area there that they're talking about.
	Two and a half miles or something.
	And people have gone down the border and said, look, there's nothing down here.
	We got no wall or big doors on the wall and that type of thing.
	That's my take on Abbott as well.
	And I've interviewed Michael Young in the past.
	I think he is a straight shooter.
	I don't think that the Republicans are straight shooters.
	They understand... What people are concerned about, and they will position themselves and signal that they are doing something about it when in actuality they don't do anything at all about it.
	So it's really up to us.
	You just said the definition of a politician.
	That's right. Well, unfortunately, the Democrats will do some of the stuff that they promised to do.
	If people go to mycivildefensemanual.com Look at my latest interview I did.
	I did it with a group that I support.
	It's a disabled organization.
	And a guy by the name is Stan Szymanski.
	He's a brilliant man. He first attracted my attention by some of...
	He was a financial planner.
	Some of the articles he wrote about...
	The potential for disruption of our economy attracted my attention years ago.
	And Stan, we did a back and forth thing.
	We call it Wargaming the American Apocalypse.
	Because doom and gloom, well, I don't care what you want.
	It's realism. It is going to go down.
	There are so many issues happening.
	Confronting this country that have never collectively been there.
	You'll hear this from anybody with a sound mind.
	There's so many issues affecting this country that I can't possibly see mathematically that one of them doesn't happen.
	And Yan says there's a hundred some thousand plus Chinese in.
	He will not disclose his...
	sources, but I believe it's probably patriotic Americans in the Justice Department the CIA the Homeland Defense There are still people in there. I think probably 80% of these organizations don't like what's going on, but the hierarchy and 20% of them are basically pulling all the illegal things that they want to do. So the point point being this
	If there are that many people inside this country, it's no different than having troops in uniform He says they're all intelligence, police, or military people.
	The vast majority of them.
	Again, don't know where he gets his information, but I tend to believe what he says.
	He doesn't just come out and make stories up.
	Oh, yeah. And we had a thing a couple of weeks ago.
	I didn't really cover it on the show, but there was a guy who was playing piano in a public area in the UK. And there was a group of young Chinese that were kind of there in the background, and they were talking and everything.
	And they got on his video. And then they realized that they were in the field of view of his video.
	Yeah.
	and that became a viral video that the fact that they would demand that they have to have anonymity because they're here with the Chinese government and all this you know that that type of thing that is happening all over the place and and we've seen indications of that the Chinese are getting involved in universities and other things like that it's a very deliberate process.
	I've I've had quite a bit of the experience.
	I come from a color crayon box family.
	I don't have any Chinese, but I've got Koreans and Vietnamese in my family.
	They're Orientals.
	Again, you know, I love them or don't talk to them depending on the way they treat me, you know, but I get along with most of them.
	And it's not based on the shape of eyes or color of skin.
	I've got blacks in my family, too.
	Point being this... The Chinese are very xenophobic.
	They're It amazes me.
	I have a good Chinese friend, highly educated, who told me they were the original capitalists.
	And I said, what?
	You're communist China.
	No, no, no.
	That's all by the wayside.
	No matter what Mao Zedong did or anybody else, we're all capitalists at heart.
	It's in our DNA. And I was astounded to hear this person tell me That's why they came up with this marriage between capitalism and this economy they have and the Communist Party.
	It's because they can't get rid of two things in the Chinese.
	The Chinese secretly worship God.
	Most of them are Christians.
	And the second thing is, they can't get this capitalism out of them.
	No matter how many times they execute somebody for secretly selling cigarettes on the street or whatever, they all do it.
	And I was astounded to listen to that.
	But we have 100,000 of them in our country.
	I mean, one rifle, you can shoot a hole through the bottom of a transformer.
	This was done. Medford, California, I believe, was the place they did it to.
	Something coordinated, a spotter, two marksmen, absolutely put a large part of the California electrical grid down.
	And that was with about three or four shots from high-powered rifles.
	We have 100,000 of them.
	If only 2,500 of them get out and start doing that, that's 50 people in every state.
	I noticed where I live, the power company has started positioning a vehicle outside of their transformer station.
	That happened for about two or three weeks a month ago.
	Then it just disappeared again.
	Yeah, they heard a thread about that or something.
	Yeah, and the problem is that there's not a lot that we can do about it.
	We can't get the government to protect the border.
	And then even when you look at the government protecting the border, the concern is, are they going to set up some kind of, you know, virtual wall that is going to be a surveillance system?
	Is that then going to migrate into the rest of the United States? Is the wall going to be used to keep people in?
	And when you look at it from just even an economic standpoint, we have this giant welfare magnet pulling people in. That can bankrupt us.
	You know, how do we push back against this? You know, is it going to be used as a cat's paw to get us to accept a surveillance state, to accept a digital ID in order to try to bring back some sense of order?
	There's a lot of chaos that's being sown.
	But what do you think is the key threat right now for America?
	To me, the key threat is...
	Exactly what, well, let's put it as a key threat, are all of these illegals in this country that we don't know anything about.
	We don't know where they are.
	Nobody's watching them, as far as I know.
	And that is the key threat.
	They could bring our infrastructure.
	You talked earlier about how dependent we are on We're good to go.
	I can imagine, but I don't want to live through what goes on after that happens.
	95% of the people in this country got two or three cans of beans in their pantry and that's it.
	They don't have any food.
	They don't have any water stored up.
	And that's the first thing that's going to kill people is lack of water.
	Why? Because I've read stories.
	I've been without water for four days.
	I know what it's like.
	You start going out of your head.
	And I've read and had people tell me that they knew people that drank motor oil just because it was fluid.
	It's the insanity that takes over your head.
	I was close to that, too.
	I mean, it was...
	Well, I know there's the tales of people who get, you know, shipwright, the ship goes down, they're in a lifeboat, and they're hoping that they can get rescued or whatever some of them do.
	But, you know, they start, against their better judgment, they'll drink seawater.
	You know, and that's it.
	Well, we drank our 5% drip solutions.
	Did it help us? Temporarily, but it puts you in a worse state afterwards.
	Luckily for us, I was too stupid to know what I was doing.
	Luckily for us, we got out of it before too long.
	But we're in such a fragile state that it actually frightens me.
	I think the biggest thing is an attack.
	I think that we...
	Don't tell me that these people couldn't go door to door with lists of people.
	You, me included, judges, policemen, sheriffs, federal officials, and just kill people.
	What's to stop them from doing that?
	I'm seeing things about the Chinese coming in.
	I don't want to pick on them, because there's plenty of other ones from other countries.
	They're going to shooting ranges and shooting.
	Now, part of that is because the Orientals are deprived of guns.
	The Japanese, they come to Las Vegas, they'll go and spend $4,000 in a machine gun range because they don't get to shoot or have any weapons over there.
	But the point being this is that I think the biggest danger we have, immediate danger, is The possibility of a coordinated attack.
	And everybody's got information on who is, you know, who fits into the conservative side or traditional side, who's a troublemaker like you and I. You know, that is a possibility.
	I prepare for that type of thing.
	But the bottom line is, and you need to too, but the bottom line is...
	I don't think it'd be that so much.
	Why should they waste their time doing that?
	They can take out this system by taking the electrical grid out.
	And that happens without people shooting holes in transformers.
	That happens periodically.
	And of course, it could happen in slow motion.
	We're looking at what's happening in Mexico City.
	They're facing a massive, massive water shortage.
	And again, it's an urban area, so these people don't have any backup system.
	They don't have any well that they can draw from or anything.
	They're totally dependent. We're good to go.
	It's incapable or unwilling to provide an infrastructure.
	And then you pack people together.
	And this is a hallmark of what is happening at the border with all of these Central and South American countries, you know, sending up prisoners, sending up cartels.
	And I'm sure easily be very easy for the cartels to start doing incursions across the border.
	They've gotten right up to the border, having shootouts with Mexican federales and that type of thing.
	Yeah, they've got some incredible military hardware, too.
	I mean, I've seen pictures of stuff that, I mean, you know where it came from.
	It came from Afghanistan, most likely there, or the Ukraine.
	There's a lot of corruption going on there, but I think that people don't really understand the water is taken for granted.
	Water weighs eight pounds per gallon.
	If you're going to haul...
	Five gallons of water, you're hauling 40 pounds.
	Water is much more difficult to keep from spoiling, so to speak, as bacterial growth.
	Much more difficult to store and keep long-term than food is, really.
	I feel like an insurance salesman sometimes trying to talk to people about Food, because they take it so granted.
	Water, they take it so granted.
	It's like an intangible, unseeable insurance policy.
	Because not that they can't see these, it's just their mind can't conceive of being without them.
	Yeah. But... And, of course, people go to civildefensemanual.com.
	You've got a free chapter there from the book about water, because that is so key and so core that you want people to have that information.
	You know, another thing, too, Jack, in just the last week or so, the mainstream media has picked up the case of this Amish farmer, Amos Miller.
	I don't know if you saw that or not, but he's in...
	I thought. Anything with the State Department of Agriculture there, but they really want to shut down individual farms.
	Thomas Massey has got his Prime Act, and he's taken this as an advocacy, and it's really resonated with a lot of Republicans, even with a lot of Republican officials at the state level.
	And so now the mainstream media is pushing back against all this stuff.
	It is really vital for them to keep us dependent on And so that's a key thing that you talk about when we talk about our current food supply and how do we get this garden-to-table type of food supply for our own benefit.
	Yeah, and it's worse than guarding a table.
	The systems they have now, you go to the grocery store and buy a loaf of bread, it's automatically ordering another loaf of bread before you walk out the door.
	So buy... Within probably 12 to 24 hours at the latest, they've restocked with every loaf of bread that went through their cashier line.
	So if there were 1,000 loaves of bread, there's another 1,000 loaves of bread that are delivered probably by 2 o'clock, 4 o'clock in the morning.
	And in the process of this direct from manufacturer, To the grocery store, there's no reserve anymore.
	It's an absolute hand-to-mouth system as far as supply.
	They used to have warehouses full of foods, and of course they would move those fairly quickly, but it's no longer there.
	So they're literally...
	We are standing at the end of the water pump and waiting for somebody to crank the handle before we can get our cup full.
	It's the way it is, and it's that way with food also.
	It's very disturbing to look at it from that side.
	A lot of people don't want to realize, hey, we're America.
	We've never had anything like third world problems like this.
	That's because geographically, Probably geographically more than anything.
	We have never really had to face these issues.
	But now the illegals inside this country and the technology...
	That we have saddled ourselves with are threatening to change that defense we had, that geographic defense.
	It's no longer there.
	And of course, you know, the technology has made us dependent on it in so many different ways besides the just-in-time delivery.
	That was the first thing you and I ever talked about.
	All these different legs of, you know, the supply chain.
	We saw that busted significantly during 2020 after we had talked about it.
	I talked to you the first time.
	It was way before 2020.
	But, you know, we saw a bit of what happened with that when we just had the arbitrary closure of so many different things and even changing the way that the products would be delivered.
	You know, you're not going to be able to We're good to go.
	It's so easy in this kind of complex system to break it, just as we saw with the cell phones and shutting down a lot of truckers because they couldn't get their cell phone to work.
	So it's incredibly fragile.
	And I guess, you know, that's one of the reasons why your book is so important.
	I think it's very important for people to start to take some measures, anything that they can do from the beginning, as you pointed out, just, you know, getting a few, you know, occasionally buying cans of food and setting them aside because it's going to last for quite a while.
	Just gradually doing things like that.
	They can simply start storing some water.
	Water is the first thing that's gonna kill people, either the lack thereof or drinking something that isn't potable, something that's not safe to drink.
	That could be anything, water, bad water, or anything other than that.
	You can get water out of a stream up in the mountains that looks so crystal clear, oh my God, this is from God.
	This is God's hand that's giving me this water, and if you drink it, you'll be sicker than a dog I've done this. I've been through it.
	I think that the funny thing is, we are so abundant here.
	My wife, being from Zimbabwe, Africa, formerly Rhodesia, she still is amazed to go find a tube of toothpaste because there are 40, 50 different types of toothpaste.
	Yeah. What kind do you want?
	What flavor do you want?
	What consistency do you want?
	Jelly, you want a paste?
	And she has never gotten over this.
	She's been in this country 40 years.
	And she is blown away because she's been back to Africa.
	And you go to this toothpaste section, there's maybe one tube or there isn't any there.
	Or they've got baking soda set in a place to use.
	It's a mindset that's caused Americans...
	To think that we're invulnerable, we're invincible.
	We can't have these things happen.
	And we've set ourselves up for a fall with all this digitized infrastructure.
	Yeah, you're talking about a Disneyland mentality that people have, that everything's going to be just fine, right?
	Yeah. Yeah, until it isn't.
	That's right. And simple math, being...
	Being in Las Vegas, I'll never forget the guy, Jimmy the Greek.
	He was an odds maker who was very, very popular.
	And he made a statement.
	It's pretty much a maximum of mathematics now.
	The further you are from the point of something happening, the more probability you have that it will happen.
	And we have gone for...
	What? 70, 80 years?
	We've never had our food system, which consists in most people's mind of the grocery store.
	Now it's pre-packaged delivered food or a restaurant.
	We've never had any of those fail us.
	That's right. And we've really become kind of helpless, kind of like Eloy or something.
	Karen and I went to New Zealand in 1998, and we went on a jet boat ride.
	That they had there. That's one thing that they kind of developed there because of their shallow streams and stuff.
	But they would take down these canyon walls where there were, you know, rocks and everything.
	They go really fast. And he goes, oh, you're Americans.
	Well, let me explain this to you.
	He says, this is not a ride at Disneyland.
	He said, if we're going towards something and it looks like you're going to hit your head, duck, because you're going to hit your head.
	Oh! It's like, wow, that's the way the world sees us.
	And I guess really he's kind of right about that because, you know, we really do believe that everything's going to be just fine.
	We're going to be taken care of.
	Everything's been thought of and everything is planned out.
	And that's not the way the world works, you know, and you find that out and you get the punch in the face.
	Yeah, I learned this from you, I think, a couple of interviews ago.
	You made a statement that people driving in the third world, they don't have any line down the center of the road, any dotted line.
	They don't have a line on the outside, a white one that tells them, hey, you're too far to the right or too far to the left or whatever.
	They don't have that type of thing.
	And consequently, they're alert for other drivers.
	They don't even have stop signs.
	I remember driving in the mountains on an island called Roatan in Honduras and I had a pickup I rented and I came roaring around the corner.
	They've set rocks up.
	The road washed out.
	So they set rocks up.
	No warning signs, nothing.
	I went over the hill and I barely missed eating those rocks.
	But you brought the point up which is very valid that Americans have so much of this Drawn out that it's become mindless for us to even drive.
	You got a light that tells you to stop.
	Even if you go through that green light and there's a car from the right coming towards you, most Americans would look to the right and say, look at that damn fool.
	He's coming towards me.
	You know, he's going to T-bone me.
	You know, instead of putting the brakes on, we've just become...
	Way too complacent with all of the issues that are hand-delivered to us and take the fear of.
	And I have a sense of entitlement.
	I've got the right-of-way.
	Oh, you're going to be dead right, you know?
	About this thing if you don't pay attention to it.
	But even to the extent that, you know, now the sense of entitlement extends to the fact, well, you better not say anything that offends me, you know?
	I mean, I'm supposed to be protected from any contingency, even from hearing harmful things, you know?
	I mean, it's just, we have become so pacified, so controlled, and we demand safety over everything else, and yet...
	It's not safe at all if you are not aware of your surroundings and if you don't have the ability to be able to provide for yourself.
	That's why I like to recommend Civil Defense Manual because that's a good place for people to start.
	You've got a lot of different areas where people can start, whether you're talking about food or water, whether you're talking about defense, whether you're talking about organizing in a community.
	That's something we need to do even for a political standpoint.
	Absolutely. To start organizing at the local level.
	You know, people talking about Christian nationalism.
	I said, no, talk about Christian localism.
	You know, you need to build from the ground up.
	This book will save people's lives.
	I've gotten into a battle in my family.
	I've got a big family. I've got like 55 cousins and grandchildren, nieces, nephews, all that.
	That's why I got rid of my iPhone, because the texting was driving me crazy.
	They all think Uncle Jack's a cat's meow.
	Well, I don't want to hear everybody's life story all day.
	So... I've gotten into a battle in my family, and that battle is over freedom of speech.
	And I'm not going to take the liability for telling your listeners this, but I refuse to shut my mouth about things.
	If somebody brings something up, I will counter it right there.
	I am not going to let tyranny rule over my family.
	When you've got an obnoxious brother-in-law looking at you like, oh my God, you've got to...
	You know, it's like you're holding a dead fish up in your fingers, you know, and it smells like terrible, you know, and we don't talk about things like that around here.
	Well, maybe you don't, but I do because you guys brought it up.
	You know, I've started doing it.
	I get into it with my wife because she's English and she's A person that's used to being reserved and polite, which most people in the world, to a degree, are that way, much more than Americans.
	We're pretty outspoken, but we're stopping that, and I'm going the other way now.
	Yeah, they want to intimidate you.
	They want to intimidate you, and you know what they don't want you to say, and you can't self-censor yourself.
	That's gotten me in a lot of trouble.
	Yeah. It's got to be a lot of trouble with all the social media and YouTube and all the rest of these people because I'm not going to self-censor.
	If I'm going to talk about the vaccines, I'm not going to use a euphemism.
	You know, I'm just going to tell you what this thing is.
	The vaccine is going to do this and that to you.
	I'm not going to, you know, dance around the topic like that.
	And so as a result... You get banned for doing that.
	But to me, that is the worst thing that we can do.
	That's what Solzhenitsyn was saying.
	Don't live by lies.
	Even if they're going to pressure you on this, you've got to speak the truth as you know it and not deliberately live by a lie in order to please other people.
	And I think right now where we are is with the pronouns.
	I'm in the How ridiculous is that?
	But that's a good example.
	I started to support an organization at one point until I woke up.
	I don't know why I didn't see this in the first email, but the director sent me.
	I took this personal lunch.
	I was interested in helping these young kids.
	That were being bullied at school.
	Because I was terribly bullied at school.
	A lot of people were. Oh yeah.
	But I started seeing the her, she, he, they, it pronouns, and I just cut it off right there.
	I couldn't understand why this person was using...
	This refuge type thing, and I think they're doing more, they're trying to, I think, indoctrinate these kids if you don't know your sexuality.
	That's right. They want to confuse them.
	Yeah, we were all bullied in school, but now the kids are bullied and gaslit, you know, and groomed.
	You know, they just added that to it, and they're still being bullied over the pronouns and other things like that, just in a different way and by a different group of people.
	The people at the top are bullying them.
	Right, right. Most of the people I graduated with haven't been more than 500 miles from home.
	I've been all over the world, and I'll never regret whatever they think they have and what I've had and seen through my eyes and heard and felt going around the world.
	But let me go back to one thing you were talking about, that Amish farmer in Pennsylvania.
	Yeah, Amos Miller. I mean, what is that?
	Raw milk is going to maybe kill somebody?
	You know, the government has a monopoly on death.
	They can give you a vaccine and try to force you to take it.
	And, well, we can kill you with something that wasn't even tested.
	But, boy, you can't have raw milk.
	I come from a farm that we milked a lot of cows.
	I don't know. I'm 77.
	I think I'm pretty healthy.
	I don't know. I might be dead tomorrow, but the bottom line is I drink raw milk all the time, and what's bad about it?
	I don't know, but somebody's conjured this up, and Government, if they're there, they need to control.
	They don't feel like they're complete.
	And the day has, when the sun goes down, if they haven't gone in and rousted somebody and told somebody the way it is, they don't feel like they had a productive day.
	And that may sound a little bit opinionated, but it is my opinion of At least in other countries, governments usually stay away from you.
	You either bribe them.
	They're all taking money under the counter.
	And I'll admit, I've done it.
	I've gotten a friend out of getting arrested by the Thai police one time.
	He was a lieutenant colonel, and I went over and gave a...
	He shook hands, moneyed with the lieutenant and the tourist police, and said, look, I'll take him home.
	He didn't really mean anything about that.
	I took him home, told him to stay inside and shut your mouth, because he was criticizing the king of Thailand, and that can get you in some serious trouble.
	I've seen an Australian about 6'5", with about 15 or 20 ties, beating...
	the ever-living daylights out of him just because he made a smart remark and Trudno and and you just learn to keep your mouth shut about the king who's a great guy I mean he took care of that country so I don't I'm not advocating that type of government but he did what he needed to do for his people and you keep your mouth shut about it you're in there just like if somebody comes in my living room don't start telling me how ugly my artwork looks you know even I drew it, you know.
	Anyway, I just think it's incredible that they did what they did with this farmer.
	And, of course, with your experience in so many different places, and, of course, you have seen communism in action, and, of course, ChatGPT and the Google Gemini say you can't criticize communism.
	That's not allowed, you know.
	But we know what it really is, and you've experienced it firsthand.
	You mentioned an encounter that you had with somebody from Cambodia, Phnom Penh.
	Talk a little bit about that. Well, I went all through Southeast Asia.
	I don't know how long I stayed there, but when you go to these countries, obviously, if you've got the money, you stay in a nice place.
	I stayed in probably the nicest hotel.
	I think it was seven or eight stories high in Phnom Penh.
	And I was sitting there one evening.
	I didn't drink.
	I don't drink anymore. But I didn't drink any alcohol.
	I was having a cup of tea.
	And I'm looking across the Mekong River, which is probably a mile and a half wide there.
	And I'm astounded.
	It comes out of Vietnam and wanders up into Cambodia, I think into Laos.
	And I'm sitting there looking at it.
	It's so peaceful. The people were so extremely nice.
	I had to think back to when the Khmer Rouge took over in 1976.
	In three years, the Khmer Rouge communists killed, if anybody can believe this, 1.7 million people.
	One-third of their population.
	Wow. And it was crazy because they were trying to get rid of anyone educated.
	So if you wore a pair of glasses and...
	You were taken as being an educated person because most people over there, now if somebody had bad eyesight in an organization or somebody got them glasses, a person could have no education.
	But they took these people out in the swamp areas north of Phnom Penh and it was a place called the Killing Fields.
	It was a huge long swamp area.
	And they wouldn't put a bullet in the back of your head.
	They were getting rid of all the intellectuals, everybody, and they were getting it down to the peasants, and it was going to be a totally farming country.
	There was going to be no attorney's offices, none of this.
	They did a pretty good job. 1.7 million people were killed by peasants.
	Executioners putting a plastic bag over their head, suffocating them to death.
	Down to kids that were three months old.
	Where do you find this stuff?
	You can go to a place called Toll Slang.
	It was a school.
	They tortured to death 17,000 people in there.
	Who were their jailers?
	Most of them were young 12, 13, 14-year-old kids.
	People were killed there, but the majority of them And I'm sitting there, and I can't believe it.
	And I have this exceptionally nice waiter, and I asked the guy, what's Phnom Penh stand for?
	And he says, it means the city of four faces.
	And I thought, well, that's pretty much justly represents what happens with humanity.
	People don't think anything like that can happen in your society.
	Those people went from being that pleasant person to the evil faces went on and the executioners came out and it didn't stop until they killed one third of their population.
	That'd be like us killing off 110 million Americans.
	Wow. And it devastated the country.
	It set them so far back.
	But you go over there now, and people in Vietnam don't remember anything.
	Most of them are in their 30s and 40s.
	And I was just totally astounded how that could happen.
	And I've seen this other places, and we think we're immune from this.
	I hope it never comes, but people can't put it out of their mind.
	Food, store food, store water, buy yourself a shotgun and 500 rounds of shotgun shells, double-odd buck, And some slug.
	And I'm not...
	I used to say, go get yourself something for protection.
	But some people think protection is having pepper spray.
	That's not going to do you any good.
	Unfortunately, if it comes down to defending yourself the most efficient...
	Mm-hmm.
	You, if things go bad, are going to need other people to help defend your area, to keep some civility, to keep people from getting harmed by gangs and whatnot, which is going to be the first threat.
	That's what I like about your book.
	It talks about the psychology of getting together in a group.
	You know, things to do that are good, things to do that are not good.
	And that is very important, especially now that the government has started focusing on, well, if you've got a group of people and they've got rifles, they're militia and they're bad and they're a threat to us and they're sovereign citizens or whatever labels they want to hang on people like that.
	It's very important that you realize about that.
	I get around that in the book, and I specifically go in to the definition of militia, and people are forming what I call neighborhood guardians for the defense only of their area.
	And it blows me away how some of the people that think they're traditional now and conservative, Have been so propagandized over the years in, oh, you can't do that.
	Oh, that's against the law.
	Well, not really, because I sat in a police board.
	I got a pretty good idea about obstruction of traffic and obstruction of law enforcement and that type of thing.
	Let me tell you something. If things go sideways, which they will, if they go sideways, people are going to end up In their neighborhoods, they control their area.
	Law enforcement is going to love them.
	One less area to go in and deal with.
	Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right.
	And that's the other side of this.
	You know, I interviewed a long time ago, Sheevan Fleet, and Tucker just interviewed her, talking about her book, Mao's America.
	She said, I went through all this stuff you call woke now.
	She said that struggle sessions and the self-denouncement and all this other kind of stuff that they're now doing in universities and teaching people on that.
	She said that was all done, you know, when she's warning Americans what this looks like.
	And it's true. All the stuff you talked about with Cambodia, that was what Mao was doing with his cultural revolution.
	He was executing intellectuals.
	He wanted everybody to be in agriculture, all that type of thing.
	And so we see that. But then on the other side, one of the things that I'm concerned about, of course, is all the talk when we see at CPAC, all these people, well, if we lose the election, it looks like it's a civil war.
	Everybody seems like on both sides of this are being primed.
	To come after each other.
	And we're at a time, you know, like about every 80 years, you know, everybody gets antsy and they change all the institutions, have a big financial crisis.
	But everybody is primed to come after other people.
	It seems like the way this country is being divided, very, very concerning to me.
	That is as concerning as what is happening at the border to me.
	I blame most of this attitude and this polarization on the technology.
	One of the worst violators is Facebook.
	Yep. People have learned to say things over a computer that they wouldn't say in front of you, to your face, because you would punch their snout through the back of their skull. That's right.
	You know, to put it crudely, people would not put up with his face to say.
	So what they do is they read this. They're angry.
	And it builds a pressure up in them.
	Yes. Just like it does kids when you have a zero tolerance policy.
	My football coach, our gym coach, used to take us to the wrestling room and we would have what we call murder brawl.
	And it would be kids in a class.
	All of us kids in a class. He'd divide them into two halves and one is padded in this room.
	And he'd throw a soccer ball out there.
	And the point was to get the ball and touch the wall on the opposite end.
	And of course, while everybody's looking for the ball, there's usually three or four guys over there punching it out because they don't like each other, you know, and they get it out of their system.
	We didn't bring firearms to school and shoot each other.
	So it's like the gun-free zone.
	This type of zero tolerance is doing the opposite of what it should do.
	That's right. And, you know, I'll never be able to argue that with the teachers in my family because They got PhDs.
	They can't tie their shoes, but they got PhDs.
	It's piled higher and deeper.
	Yeah, that's the key thing. You know, the technology is isolating us from each other, from human contact, doing that so they can monitor and surveil everything that we do.
	But as you point out, the other side of that that comes along with this isolation is that when we do interact with other people, we don't see them as human.
	And so it builds up this animosity because we're at a distance, and it just seems like everything that is being done to us now is being done to heighten division, to sow chaos, and whether it's the border or whether it's what is happening inside the border, it seems like it is all compounding.
	Well, it's been great talking to you, and again, I love your book, Civil Defense Manual.
	I had a guy who picked it up.
	He said, that is worth $1,000.
	He said, I love the information that's in there.
	You sell it as a pair, but I would encourage people to go to the website, civildefensemanual.com.
	You've got interviews there.
	You've got articles that are there.
	You've got excerpts from the manual that are there.
	A great resource.
	People always say, well, you know, what can I do about this?
	We need to be able to take action.
	We need to be able to do this as individuals and as a community.
	That is the key thing. And you've got a lot of answers in that book and you've got a lot of experts who have chimed in on that, that you've created great resources there.
	Always great talking to you, Jack.
	Good to talk to you, David.
	Take care. Thank you. Thank you very much.
	Talk to you later. Bye. Well, that's it for the program today, folks.
	Thank you so much for joining us, and I hope that you learned something, and I hope that you've got some resources somewhere that you're going to depend on.
	Again, CivilDefenseManual.com is a great one, and great book, and you'll see that if you take a look.
	I think he's also got a free chapter there besides the water.
	He's got another one on nuclear war, that type of thing, and that's a real eye-opener.
	from somebody who has a lot of training, a lot of experience and also expertise in that area.
	Thank you for joining us. Have a good day.
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