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The David Knight Show - 09/28/2023

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Thursday, the 28th of September, 2023. 23.
	We're going to get our feet under us here, and we're going to talk about the cashless cyber anarchy that is coming our way.
	You know, there's a method to their madness as we see the cities being destroyed, and it's kind of interesting how they're pushing us into this cashless society in very subtle ways.
	No, we don't have any cash in this door.
	Leave us alone, please.
	Because the police won't protect us.
	We'll take a look at that. We'll also take a look at kid porn.
	You see, it's important to get porn to kids.
	You just don't want to have porn of kids or you go to jail.
	But not nearly as long as you go to jail if you're January the 6th.
	Yeah, we'll talk about what our society has become when we return.
	Stay with us. Well, I want to begin with some general news.
	And I'm not really going to talk about the debate.
	The debate was such a joke.
	Why are we even doing with this?
	There's absolutely nothing of any substance there.
	The only thing interesting about it was the fact that You had Fox News pushing amnesty.
	The debate was held at the Reagan Library.
	Well, you know, Reagan gave amnesty to these people and it was an utter failure.
	We'll talk about that briefly, get to some of your emails, but I want to begin.
	I saw article after article and op-ed after op-ed, even people that I respect their opinion on other issues, focusing on Fauci and the CIA, as if this is some new revelation.
	Look, folks, as we've said about Dark Winter for the longest time, and as a matter of fact, it's what I wanted to interview RFK Jr.
	on with his book, Fauci.
	He accepted it and then canceled it at the last minute.
	Kind of like, you know, is that where I'm coming from?
	But the, you know, I really wanted to talk to him.
	I thought it was an excellent chapter, the 12th chapter of his book, Fauci.
	It was all about the CIA involvement and not foreign labs.
	But it was about CIA involvement in the germ games that began with Dark Winter two months before 9-11.
	Then a CIA-run anthrax attack one week after 9-11.
	We know that. That's not a question.
	And then the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act.
	They got put out two months after that anthrax attack.
	They've been involved in this from the very beginning.
	As a matter of fact, in the first germ game in Dark Winter, two months before 9-11, you had former CIA director James Wolsey playing the role of president.
	And they've been deeply involved in this.
	Fauci's been deeply involved in it.
	Wouldn't be surprised if his...
	His double the salary that he's supposed to have isn't a function of him having two jobs.
	Maybe we'll find out decades from now, long after I'm dead, that Fauci was also working for the CIA and getting a salary from them as well.
	It's just ridiculous.
	But now we're seeing, because of a book that's come out that's making these statements, and a lot of people are talking about Fauci and the CIA. Maybe we need to rethink his name.
	Maybe it should be Fow CIA. Just add an A after it and put a dash to separate the two.
	He's always been involved with the CIA. But I think one of the reasons that this is happening, and it bothers me a great deal, is I think that they're using this narrative now to misdirect people away from the real bioweapon.
	It didn't come out of a lab in Wuhan.
	It came out of DARPA and the CIA. And Fauci.
	And these people have been working on that a long time before it was dropped on us, just like they're working on the lockdowns and the masks, and you've got to stay there until we roll this vaccine out to you and all the rest of this stuff.
	That's the bioweapon.
	And that's what they don't want you to see.
	It's kind of interesting to me as I look at this.
	You know, in 2020, as a matter of fact, going back to 2019, December 2019, I was actually the first one at Infowars to talk about the fact that, hey, this wet market where they said it came from bats, that's right next to the only biosafety level four lab that they have in China, Wuhan. But then when I, like I said before, I saw what they were doing with the lockdown.
	It's like, well, I know what this is.
	This has never been done before, but this is what they've planned for 20 years.
	And all the fake people falling in the streets and all the garbage about, well, you know, nobody's died yet.
	We've had four people that died or something, as Gerald Salenti pointed out in January, and he's talked about that many times with us.
	Yeah, four people died out of one and a half billion people.
	We've got a worldwide pandemic now, just like that.
	You know, there's no evidence of people dying.
	We now know, you know, we look at the flowchart of medical murder.
	By the way, this is from the interview that I had the other day with Gracie's dad.
	Gracie, the Downs young adult who was murdered while the parents were kept away.
	And they witnessed the murder live and were interacting with people live on Zoom.
	Can not get them to resuscitate her.
	They put a do not resuscitate tag on her in spite of what they said.
	And this is his flow chart that he had put up.
	He says, well, you know, we had, this is the medical murder flow chart.
	And you see three different sections here on the left side in green.
	You see the good old days.
	Before the Rockefellers, not that long ago, you'd contact the doctor to set your broken bones and bandage wounds, and the doctor would visit the patient at home.
	Maybe he'd get chickens as a payment or something like that, right?
	And your death date was determined by God.
	This came from Gracie's dad.
	And then today, what does it look like?
	Well, today we've got the medical system killing us.
	And the old way that they used to kill us was with CMS and insurance companies who then had standards of care that would hasten death, like drugs and radiation and chemo.
	You'd have hospitals and doctors who would implement that.
	You'd have the nurse as an advocate for us, but it would still hasten death.
	And Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement rates would increase for following that plan, which came from the Rockefellers.
	But then the new way, as they began with this pandemic in 2020, the new way that was instituted by Trump, you know, he was the one who was there when it really rolled this out.
	Of course, they planned it long before him, but he was their guy.
	NIH and CDC and FDA will have protocols that directly kill.
	Remdesivir, ventilators, the jab.
	Then you'll have the hospitals and doctors implemented, and the nurse then becomes an accomplice, and they actually kill you.
	And they get paid for submission to the agenda very, very handsomely.
	The bonuses that were instituted during the Trump administration for all of these things.
	You know, for the ventilators, you get a bonus for that.
	Get a bonus for identifying them as COVID and all the rest of the stuff.
	And he says, so what's the future going to be?
	Well, the future is we'll have the WHO, we'll have an ESG score, we'll have a birth certificate value, we'll have AI customized standard of care, and then the death date of the slaves will be determined by an AI idol.
	I think he's spot on, quite frankly.
	We didn't show that.
	We didn't talk about that during the interview, but I had that, and I wanted to get to that.
	So when we look at Fauci, Fauci and the CIA, let's understand that, you know, I started pushing back against that, and InfoWars started leaning heavily into this idea that this was a lab leak.
	We saw Zero Hedge that was kicked off of Twitter at the time.
	I said, you doxed somebody.
	Well, all they did was they looked at his bio, somebody that worked at the Wuhan lab, who said that he was specializing in coronaviruses and bats.
	I was like, well, that's interesting, isn't it?
	And they pushed very hard against anybody who was putting that out.
	And, of course, it was important...
	To get that out and to make that something that was forbidden knowledge, wasn't it?
	You're not supposed to know that.
	And because the people were pushing it, like Alex, like Mike Adams, they were pushing it to conservatives.
	Conservatives who perhaps, even with Trump in place, might have had the second thought about the masks and the lockdowns and the jabs and all the rest of the stuff.
	And they eventually did have, many of them, second thoughts about the jabs.
	But they went along with the lockdowns.
	They went along with the masks.
	Why? Well, because it was coming from Trump and because you had people like Alex telling people that it was coming, it leaked out of a lab and we're all going to die.
	Made record profits.
	Doing that. And so now, why the pivot?
	Why did they push so hard to stop that from getting out?
	Oh, they wanted it out.
	They wanted it out.
	But they were going to discredit that at the same time.
	They wanted it out for the conservatives.
	Now they're pushing it back because people caught on to the jab.
	And now they want you to think that the jab is not the bioweapon.
	But that it came from Wuhan.
	And that the enemy is not Trump and Biden and Fauci and the World Health Organization and Gates and the CDC and the FDA. They're not the enemy.
	China. China is the enemy.
	It's another reason for us to go to war with China.
	They did this to everybody.
	The Wu flu.
	Right? And so that's what this is about.
	Now it's in their interest to make it look like a lab leak.
	Now it's in their interest to do the lab leak because nobody believes that it was the virus.
	You go back and you look at this, what was killing people?
	It was that hospital protocol.
	That's why I began with that.
	It was Trump and Fauci's hospital protocol.
	They were paying the hospitals to kill people.
	You had pulmonologists who were saying, I've never seen this as a protocol before.
	Where'd this come from? None of that made any sense.
	What they were doing to people with a ventilator made no sense whatsoever.
	Just like the magic number six feet apart and all the rest of this stuff.
	And the lockdowns and the masks.
	None of that made any scientific medical sense.
	It had never been done before.
	Still doesn't make any sense.
	But it was important.
	That we not blame Fauci, Trump, and Biden, and the CIA, and the CDC, and the FDA for this stuff.
	We've got to blame the Chinese for it.
	And you've got to believe now, as you're starting to get skeptical, that there was ever any virus out there.
	We've got to tell you that it actually did leak from a lab.
	So that you believe in the virus.
	And all the things that you see happening to people.
	That's long COVID. It's not vaccine.
	You understand? That's what they want everybody to believe.
	Look, I disagree with these conspiracy theories.
	I like, you know, the people who have put this up, typically.
	Jeffrey Tucker, even at the Brownstone Institute.
	I think he's totally wrong.
	I like his work in general.
	I think he's totally wrong about this.
	Look, the reality is the shot.
	Don't fall for this.
	And I think he's falling for it.
	I think a lot of people are falling for it.
	A lot of people who are good, who should know better, I think are falling for this.
	And especially the people who are supporting Trump.
	They hate the vaccine, but they love Trump.
	Trump made the vaccine. If you love Trump, you would have got the **** thing.
	That was his baby, right?
	Warp speed. Excuse me, warp speed.
	You all have warp speed in you right now.
	You have Trump juice inside your body.
	Warp speed so quick.
	It was supposed to take five years, but I made it in two days.
	Warp speed. You have experimental Trump juice in your body, floating around.
	Warp speed. Nobody makes it that quick.
	Nobody feels tiny when they get it.
	Big. Very big.
	If I like Trump, I'd be like, give me that Patriot pinch.
	Give it to me. Come on. I've got my NRA tattoo and my mRNA tattoo.
	Come on. Making vaccines great again.
	I don't mind if you're big.
	I don't mind if you're small.
	Mind you so magic.
	One size fits all.
	I'm a big barber and I'm here for you.
	I mean no harm.
	I just want to help my choosing free for you, my friend.
	Cause I know you'll be back again and again and again.
	I mean no harm.
	I just want to help my choosing free for you, my friend.
	Cause I know you'll be back again and again and again And again and again and again and again and again Drop it, stand up!
	Do not surrender your bodies to these bulls in sheep's clothing pretending to help you when the exact opposite is true!
	Do you really think they want you healthy when they are financially dependent on the ship?
	Do not let them deceive you into their medicinal temple of doom, protecting you to death with their ungodly toxic closures.
	You are not their experiments.
	Resist.
	Do not comply.
	Rise up.
	I'm out.
	We'll be right back.
	.
	Thank you.
	Yeah. So we won't be talking about the debate.
	That's what they won't talk about.
	What you just saw there.
	Well, that's a perfect video.
	I played that for a while.
	The debate, nothing of any substance.
	Nothing. Nothing.
	Nothing about the coming smart cities, CBDCs, vaccines.
	Nothing about any of that stuff.
	The usual pablum that they sell for part of the age-old, it's been in my entire life, left-right division.
	And then, this cringy, petty, grasping for the spotlight.
	Fighting for attention that you see going on.
	You know, between Nikki Haley and...
	Tim Scott. I mean, just look at me.
	Look at me. Look at me. Let me grab the spotlight here.
	While Fox is using this as an opportunity to push for illegal alien amnesty.
	Oh, this is the Reagan Library.
	You know, Reagan was just so...
	We all admire Reagan.
	Reagan was just God, and he gave amnesty.
	Don't you think you should be like Reagan?
	Everybody, every Republican wants to be like Reagan, right?
	Well, he was wrong about that.
	You know, and they said, well, all these people come in, and we've heard this song and dance over and over again.
	We're going to give people amnesty, but now we're going to protect the borders.
	Now we're going to get tough. All right, we're not going to do anything to the people already here unless they are homeschooled Christians from Germany.
	Then we'll throw them to the wolves.
	But, you know, anybody else that comes here, any other country, For any other reason other than religious persecution, we'll accept them.
	We don't want any Christians coming here fleeing for their lives from any of the countries I've been talking about.
	Or fleeing here because they don't want their kids taken away.
	Or because they're being fined more than their total income just for homeschooling their kids in Germany.
	No, we don't want people like that.
	But the people who came here illegally...
	We need to give them amnesty.
	Well, guess what? They didn't want it.
	There's about half of the people that Reagan gave amnesty to even bothered to apply for citizenship.
	They don't want to be Americans.
	They don't want freedom.
	They don't want our way of life.
	They don't want our culture. They don't even want our language.
	They just want the stuff that's here.
	And so that was what Fox was doing, pushing that.
	Meanwhile, what's the Senate doing?
	The Senate is wasting time with their shorts legislation.
	They got very upset because Fetterman is wearing shorts and a hoodie all the time.
	And so Joe Manchin took the lead in all this.
	And Joe Manchin, who by the way has been to Davos, to the World Economic Forum, talking about how social media is a problem.
	It has to be controlled.
	And so, you know, he gets away with that, and nobody pays any attention to Joe Manchin going to Davos and talking about how they've got to clamp down on social media.
	We've got these extremists on the left and the right, and we've got to shut them out.
	We've got to control that narrative, said Manchin at Davos.
	But, you know, nobody pays any attention to that.
	Instead, what they do is they applaud him because he pushes through a bill and says, you've got to wear pants when you come to the Senate.
	For Fetterman. That's what they're focusing on.
	They're not concerned about any of our problems.
	That's their problem. That's their priority.
	Look at how quickly they were able to run through an amendment to put pants on Fetterman.
	Now, I understand he's a big problem.
	He's big. He's a problem.
	Nobody wants to see that.
	But, you know, it just shows how inwardly focused they are.
	On trivial details.
	While the country burns.
	And while tyranny and the digital chains that are being put on us are multiplying and solidifying.
	So I got this email.
	It was a clip from Peggy in Australia.
	Here's Dan's new job at the World Economic Forum, Dictator Dan.
	Dan Andrews. His payoff for being a puppet.
	And so he will serve as, and this is a press release put out by the World Economic Forum.
	He resigned. He wasn't thrown out.
	He had scandal after scandal after scandal.
	And when you look at the clips, like I showed you, you know, the tyranny that he unleashed against his own people.
	Paid no price for that whatsoever.
	He was re-elected last year.
	And then all of a sudden, he just decides that he's going to leave, and they've got him covered at Davos.
	He will serve as Australian delegate to the World Economic Forum from 27th of September to 2023.
	They got a nice job for him.
	It's kind of like the people who are running Trump's FDA. You know, he had two FDA commissioners.
	He had the first guy, Scott Gottlieb, who came from Pfizer and then returned from whence he came after he'd done his work.
	He came from Pfizer, he went to Pfizer.
	And then you also had Han who went to Moderna after all the warp speed stuff.
	But of course, we know that Klaus Schwab has got his puppets.
	He brags about it. What we are very proud of now is the young generation like Prime Minister Trudeau, President of Argentina and so on, that we penetrate the cabinets.
	So yesterday I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau and I We know that half of this cabinet, or even more half of this cabinet, are actually young global leaders of the world.
	Yeah, they're actually young leaders of the world.
	Yeah, that's how they're operating this thing.
	So, Jay and Jessica asked me a question about a four-day work week One day I'd be interested in your thoughts about the push toward a four-day workweek.
	I know this is on the table with the ongoing UAW negotiations, United Auto Workers, and news stories are increasingly common.
	This concept, like remote work, is also pushed heavily by the World Economic Forum.
	I know that the borderless employee, quote-unquote, was used to move jobs to countries like India.
	We know they are restructuring every bit of society.
	I can't help but see this as another strategy.
	Perhaps I'm wrong. Maybe this is a viral idea that is actually to our benefit.
	It may not be of importance since it deals with labor and corporate business model.
	I'm interested in what benefits or consequences would be attached, if any.
	And so, here's what I think.
	You're spot on, in my opinion.
	I think this is really about pushing several things.
	I think, ultimately...
	This is about pushing remote work, which means that they don't have to bring employees here.
	As long as they can push your job more and more onto the internet and make your presence more and more virtual, that makes it very easy for them to shift to employees from India or other places to do the work.
	And we saw this during the lockdown.
	They're very proud of that. They said, well, look, we've got these convenience stores here, and it's just there's cooties everywhere.
	We can't have anybody go in and actually stock the shelves.
	So we've got this guy who's controlling a robot arm, and he's hooked up with this VR set, and he's controlling the robot arm to stock the shelves remotely.
	Oh, okay, well, that could be done from somebody in any country.
	And you just send them the hardware and give them a little bit of training, and they can do that.
	The thing that's going to really be, and so that pushes us more and more in that direction, and it pushes us more and more towards universal basic income after they take our job.
	And we therefore then own nothing, and we are dependent on the little scraps that they give us.
	That was another thing that Trump set a precedent for.
	That was a test, and we failed that test big time, bigly.
	You know, let's give people a stimulus check.
	And see how they respond to that.
	Well, just one or two stimulus checks.
	People didn't want to go back to work.
	And that told them everything that they needed to know.
	They will be moving in this direction a lot more.
	And so, moving us to a four-day work week, making things more virtual and all the rest of this, it is something that...
	It makes our jobs more vulnerable to their schemes, but it also makes our jobs more vulnerable to artificial intelligence, not just exporting it to other countries.
	And one of the ways that we know that this is an agenda that they're moving on very rapidly is if you just go back and look, especially it's accelerated.
	They've been talking about four-day workweeks.
	Since even before the lockdown, but it's accelerated since then.
	And in just the last couple of months, there's been a tremendous number of articles about a push for a four-day school week.
	A four-day school week.
	And as some jurisdictions are pushing for it and have already implemented it, the parents, of course, you know, school for most parents is daycare.
	And so if you don't have them covered one day, what do you do?
	Well, you're either going to have to work from home yourself or you're going to have to go to a four-day work week because the costs are prohibitive for them.
	And that's what they're saying. People who have low-paying jobs cannot afford health care costs even for one day.
	Now, this might be something that might break to our benefit, but, you know, it's going to require that we somehow escape this top-down slavery they're imposing on everybody.
	I mean, if we could go back to a situation where, you know, the kids are home one day a week and you're doing something with that, you might actually get more attached to your family.
	You might start turning the hearts of the parents to their children.
	And that could have some interesting consequences.
	Of course, the other thing that you would have to do then is you'd have to find some way to work away from the giant multinational corporations, the deputized state.
	So it remains to be seen whether or not that would happen.
	By the way, let me thank truck driver Ron.
	Thank you for the tip on Rockfin.
	And thank you to Roger on Subscribestar.
	Thank you for that tip there.
	And for the compliment.
	I saw this.
	This is something very strange that came out on Monday, and I just saw it yesterday.
	And it was put out by the New York Post.
	And it was the fact that the mayor of New York City and the police commissioner of New York City Had a secret meeting in the Governor's Mansion.
	In the Gracie Mansion.
	Sorry, not the Governor's Mansion. The Mayor's Mansion.
	Gracie Mansion. It was on Saturday.
	And they didn't have it anywhere on his schedule.
	But somebody posted it up on Facebook.
	And so on Monday, the New York Post saw it and wrote an article.
	It was a Master Mason secret ceremony.
	At Gracie Mansion, the place where the mayor is.
	For the mayor and for the city police chief.
	The Prince Hall Masonic Temple, also known as African American Freemasonry.
	See, that makes it okay. You know, Freemasonry, but hey, if it's African American Masonry, well, that's another thing, right?
	Brothers and sisters, today we hold an occasional Grand Lodge with the Grand Line officers and brothers for the first time in history at the Gracie Mansion.
	And New York Police Department Chief of Department Jeffrey Madry was also raised as a Master Mason during the ceremony.
	The head of the New York Police Department's Office of Intergovernmental Affairs is one of the lodge's officers.
	He's a grand junior warden.
	The New York Police Department Square Club is also a recognized Masonic organization.
	Adams himself is a retired Newark Police Department captain.
	And so, you know, when, again, it was not anywhere on his schedule.
	They didn't want to talk, put it on his official schedule.
	But it got posted by the Masons on Facebook.
	Uh-oh. And a lot of people noticed it.
	Well, you know, are they just a harmless club?
	First of all, it's a club and you ain't in it, I hope.
	I hope you're not in it.
	This is what the New York Post says.
	Known for its secret handshakes and symbols, admission to become a Freemason.
	It's quite simple. You've got to be 18 years old and believe in a supreme being, though not in any religious denomination.
	Well, actually, it is its own little religion.
	A lot of people focus on, there's a bunch of Freemasons that started this country and run this country and all the rest of this stuff, but it is also a religion.
	I got introduced to it in an interesting way.
	I had just sold the business.
	We had video stores and I just sold the business and I had a little bit of downtime and I thought we'd sold it.
	It turned into a real mess.
	But anyway... I had somebody that, you know, we used to, it was an interesting business because, you know, we would kind of hang out and we'd talk to people and I kind of liken it to Cheers, you know, the bar where people come and you know everybody in the neighborhood.
	And you talk because you get to know people, you know?
	At the very beginning, Karen and I worked at a lot and, you know, people come in, you know, what's new?
	What kind of movie? Well, what kind of stuff?
	Tell me movies you like and everything.
	So then I, you know, make them some recommendations for something.
	And got pretty good at that, you know, scoping out the types of things that people wanted.
	But, you know, you kind of get to know people.
	You talk to them about movies and you'd start to get to know who they were.
	So this guy got to know me.
	And when we sold the business, There was a book that was currently, at the time, being sold at Barnes& Noble.
	And I don't know if he just picked this thing up and he thought it was interesting, or if he was a mason and he's trying to recruit me, but he sends me this book.
	And the book was just...
	It's like, what?
	The whole book was about how the Shroud of Turin...
	It was actually Demolay that they look at, you know, it was him and not Jesus.
	It's like, what is this about?
	And how he was tortured and suffered and all this other kind of stuff.
	They made him into this Christ figure, and I thought, you know, that's really strange.
	It's so important for them to substitute their organization for Christ, for Christianity, that they go to these absurd lengths.
	And so he said, here, here's this book.
	I'd like for you to read this and let me know what you think of it.
	Well, I had time at that point in time, and I read it, and I wrote him about a 20-page essay about what I thought about it.
	And he was really surprised.
	But, you know, that was the first time it really hit home with me, not the political stuff, but, you know, just...
	How much of an occultic religion this thing is and what lengths they will go to to try to elevate this institution.
	Speaking of how our society is being transformed, West Point, after they went to a great deal of trouble to purge anything about Robert Lee just a few months ago, Because, you know, Robert E. Lee, when he went through West Point, they called him the Marble Man.
	They said, oh, they're going to make statues about this guy.
	He went through without a single demerit in a system where they're constantly trying to give you demerits.
	He eventually became the superintendent of West Point.
	One of the reasons why he was so successful as a general was because he had taught these people he was opposing, and he knew them personally.
	But he was a man of honor, so he had to be purged.
	As West Point has now got a new degree, they are now going to offer a degree in equity and diversity.
	And this is the way our institutions die.
	And that's the way you ought to put those diversity, inclusivity, and equity.
	That's the way they should die.
	Just reorder that.
	Instead of DEI, it's D-I-E. And part of the curriculum, this has gone through Campus Reform has looked at this.
	Western Journal has looked at this.
	You've got a five-course minor.
	You take two out of three of these classes, Social and Equality, Power and Difference, The Politics of Race, Gender, and Sexuality.
	And then you've got to take one out of four of these classes, World Religions, Sex and Civilizations, Race, ethnicity, nation, or society and culture in American history.
	What do you think is going to happen when we have a war?
	We're going to reap the fruit of all of this insanity.
	U.S. Military Academy says campus reform at West Point also offers a diversity and inclusion studies minor, which requires classes in power and difference in social inequality.
	In response to campus reform's request for comment, West Point clarified that the program was started in 2018 to balance faculty and student interest with the superintendent's strategic goal of leveraging diversity and fostering inclusion.
	The Western Journal says that when we saw this recent decision shutting down diversity, reverse discrimination by the Supreme Court, they gave an exception to the military academies.
	They said the decision that nixed racial admission policies at Harvard and the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill determined that because no military academy was party to the suit, the opinion did not include admissions issues at these schools, quote, in light of the potentially distinct interests that military in light of the potentially distinct interests that military academies may present.
	Thank you.
	Well, yeah, they do have a distinct interest, don't they?
	But they are not focused on that.
	This makes about as much sense as Sam Britton being put in charge of nuclear waste.
	This is what is happening to the military.
	And it's going to be hell to pay.
	And then after, this is from Information Liberation, after the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020 and the shutdown as big corporate America comes back, roaring back, they added 300,000 jobs in 2021.
	94% of them Went to non-whites.
	6% went to white people.
	94% to non-whites.
	I don't know what the breakdown of male versus female, but I imagine you'd see a similar thing like that.
	And information liberation comments, the only way to achieve these numbers is through proactive discrimination.
	Nike in particular showed a very dramatic shift.
	They are 40% Hispanic, 23% Black, 22% Asian, other races are 8%, and white are 6%.
	Not really representative of our society, is it?
	Isn't that what we were told?
	You've got to have a percentage of people that represents male and female.
	It should reflect our society demographics.
	The skin color things should reflect that, but they don't.
	It is a proactive system of discrimination against people.
	As a matter of fact, we just had the Department of Justice suing Elon Musk because he was not putting illegal aliens into jobs where they would be involved with things like launching satellites and have to do with military security.
	And of course, this is where these people have been directing us for quite some time.
	When we come back, we're going to talk about the cashless cyberarchy.
	Because I don't call it, you know, maybe we should call it that.
	Because it's going to be exercising their technocracy through cyber methods, through the internet, through cyberspace.
	But it also heavily involves anarchy.
	We call it cyberarchy.
	But finally, before we take a break, we have Rand Paul talking about the fact that if the government shuts down, of course, they're going to not pay U.S. government workers, but Ukrainian workers will be paid by the U.S. taxpayer, even in a lockdown.
	And so Rand Paul says there's nothing in the Constitution that allows for spending like this on another country that violates every precept of the Constitution.
	Well, that's true. Pretty much everything the federal government does, Rand, violates every precept and letter of the law of the Constitution.
	Where were you when they did that with lockdown, with warp speed, with everything else like that?
	I agree with him. You know, this is an outrage.
	They'll continue to pay Ukraine.
	Of course, it's always Ukraine first or any other country and never do anything for the United States.
	So that's par for the course, but so is violating the Constitution.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	Well, Audi, Modern Retro Radio, thank you very much for that tip.
	I appreciate that. That's very kind.
	He says, thank you, David, for not only bringing us informed commentary, but uniting several of us who probably wouldn't be friends otherwise, because he has been on with Jason talking about ghost guns.
	I think it was last week, but he said he's going to be on Jason Barker's podcast tonight discussing music, the foxhole.
	And that should be an interesting discussion.
	I know that Audi has got a lot of experience in that.
	As he said before, he plays himself and there's radio.
	He knows a great deal about music.
	So that should be a very interesting show.
	I had somebody, I was going to read it, but I went past it.
	Somebody sent me an email and asked, well actually sent an email to Travis and asked Travis if my music was available anywhere.
	Aldi has put it on Modern Retro Radio on an indie weekend where he had a lot of stuff.
	He put a couple of songs up there.
	I don't have it anywhere.
	You know, I tried putting Christmas songs up.
	I'm not even going to try to put any political stuff up on YouTube.
	If I say anything of any substance about any issues that are really important, it'll get shut down, so why even bother?
	But I thought, well, let me just create a new persona, get a different email and all the rest of the stuff, and I put up Christmas songs that are used during the season here as bumper music.
	And that lasted for about six months, and they terminated the channel without explanation.
	I can't even put Christmas music up on YouTube, so I don't put it anywhere.
	It's just here. I'm working on putting together, I'm doing a lot more, got an earlier start this year.
	I've done several new Christmas songs.
	I thought, you know, I might just put this out as an album.
	If people would like to get mugs and stuff like that, maybe they'd like to buy the album.
	But even more importantly, the reason I started doing all that stuff, the reason I got the virtual instruments to do orchestral stuff, or even the music like you just heard there, more guitars and fiddles and mandolins and things like that.
	The reason I got all that stuff and started putting it together was to do some Christian songs that I've written over.
	Several decades. And we used to do some of them when we used to meet in our home back in North Carolina with people.
	So I wanted to get some of those things out.
	And so I started putting that together when I was still working at Infowars.
	At Infowars, I didn't need to do my own music.
	Alex was on radio stations and he would just use their licenses to play whatever we wanted.
	But since I had been heavily censored for copyright issues, I wanted to make sure that I was playing the music that was there.
	And so I started doing that, and that's become kind of the primary focus for some of these other things.
	But I need to switch it over to that.
	I just don't have much time.
	By doing this much content and things before and after the show, I just don't have much time for it.
	for it, but I'm going to try to do more of that.
	I'm getting a little bit faster the more I do it, and so it's gradually accelerating, and that's what I would really like to get out.
	Anyway, let's talk about what is going on with the cashless society and the push to do this.
	In Oakland, of course, California, San Francisco Bay Area, crime is rampant because of the Soros district attorneys, and because if they bother to catch anybody, they just turn them loose again and And after a while, the police or the Border Patrol say, what's the point of this?
	Right? Why take the risk and go to the trouble and get in a fight or whatever with somebody to arrest them, get them off the streets when they're just going to be turned right out again with a district attorney by Soros?
	And when I saw this sign at one of the, first of all, we got some Oakland stores are trying to get the attention of the local government to do something about this.
	So I said, we're going to go on a two-hour strike.
	All the stores in Oakland are going to shut for two hours to try to get the attention of the government there.
	Well, good luck with that.
	As a matter of fact, you just had the Oakland mayor fire the police chief there, even as murder rates were going up.
	So that's not going to make much of a difference.
	Their politics are going to be entrenched there.
	But they also put up signs saying, we're cashless.
	We have no cash. Our restaurant has been robbed three times this year.
	There's nothing valuable.
	There's no money inside anymore.
	Please don't break in again.
	And this is one of the ways that I think, you know, you look at the chaos by design that's been put out there by Soros.
	It is to burn down our society, but with a very definite direction that they want to push us.
	And I think this is part of it, the no punishment stuff.
	And the, you know, no punishment for crime, we're not going to do anything about these people.
	That all pushes people towards a cashless society where, you know, you can't rob somebody with a gun.
	You're going to have to have a computer to rob us.
	And that's what I think even for the remaining small businesses, trying to push them into a cashless society with this rampant crime.
	We don't have any cash in the store, right?
	I think that's how they get them to buy into it.
	That government, as envisioned by Soros and the Democrats, we see in these Democrat cities and states, government provides nothing there.
	Nothing that people want or need.
	There's nothing there for your safety.
	And, of course, they come after your liberty.
	They don't provide law.
	They don't provide order. They don't provide infrastructure.
	They don't provide education.
	They don't provide anything that you want.
	They're merely another class of predators.
	Another criminal class to loot you in a different way.
	So participating members say they're losing customers even and foot traffic because the customers are being robbed.
	It's not just the businesses, but the customers are being robbed.
	So again, trying to train the individuals not to carry any cash or valuables because you will be robbed.
	Better just, you know...
	Have that phone and make sure that your phone operates off of your biometrics.
	So these people can't take it.
	Well, you know what they'll do is they'll just cut your fingers off and do it.
	Anyway, also in that area, Target announced that it was closing nine stores in four states because of crime and retail theft.
	Three of those stores in the San Francisco Bay and Oakland area, so one-third of those stores that are closing are right there in that area.
	Earlier this year, the newly elected progressive mayor, Xing Tao, fired Oakland police chief after he criticized the Oakland City Council for cutting the police funding as murders were rising.
	His firing was recently found to have been improper after an investigation by a retired judge.
	So, in Philadelphia, there was massive rioting because the Soros District Attorney there had the same people that let all the criminals go.
	There was a shooting of a man who was carrying a knife by a police officer, and the Soros District Attorney came after that police officer.
	And the judge dismissed it and even said charges should never have been filed in this situation.
	This is a dangerous individual on the attack.
	The police officer stopped him with a gun.
	What he's supposed to do.
	And so the people in Philadelphia saw this as an excuse to go looting.
	And there were a lot of things that were put up on social media that not only is it an excuse to go looting, but they're proud of the fact that they're looting.
	They're filming themselves looting.
	And guess what? You're not going to see the Soros District Attorney charge any of them.
	Here's one of them. This woman is shouting, everybody must eat to justify this.
	Oh, yo, brother, look at them out!
	Here they are, busting through one store after the other.
	Everybody must eat! Everybody must eat!
	Everybody must eat!
	Yay! Everybody must eat!
	Everybody must eat! She looks like she's been eating quite a bit.
	Everybody must eat!
	That's what I'm talking about. And you see the comments going up there, all laughing emojis.
	Line after line of them.
	Yeah, grab me something there, they said.
	Yeah, and you see the comments there.
	Where are we going next in some of these other ones, people that are writing there?
	It's just started. We ain't finished yet.
	That was their excuse to go rioting, the fact that a police officer had actually stopped a violent criminal.
	And again, it's the same thing we're seeing from the Biden administration that we see from these district attorneys, the source district attorneys.
	And that was a priority for Obama as he was leaving office in the transition period between Trump getting elected in 2016 and taking office in January 2017.
	In that transition period, Obama and Eric Holder got together and They're talking about how they're going to get district attorneys put in all these different jurisdictions as well as state attorney generals.
	And that's, you know, the person who funded that effort was Soros.
	But that is the push. Retailers have lost more than $112 billion in 2022 to crime, and it's going up again this year.
	In LA, San Francisco, Oakland, Houston, New York, Seattle, listed by the National Retail Federation as the city's most affected by organized retail crime.
	I thought it was interesting that Dick's Sporting's Good is having a lot of losses.
	And because, you know, they were the ones out there saying we're actually the CEO at Target.
	I'm sorry, Dick's actually hired a lobbyist.
	To push, to take guns away from people.
	To be able to defend themselves.
	And then Target, which has been pushing the LGBT stuff and drag for as long as we can remember.
	I mean, way before this was normal.
	They were putting guys dressed up like women and their customer service stuff in conservative North Carolina where we lived.
	So Target is now being dragged into losses as well.
	Yeah. $500 million in losses for Target.
	So what goes around comes around, I guess.
	They're going to close nine stores, as I said, in four different states.
	One in East Harlem, New York.
	Three in San Francisco.
	Three stores each.
	One each in Portland, Oregon.
	Sorry, one in Portland, Oregon, and two in Seattle.
	So you'll notice it's going to Portland, Seattle, New York, San Francisco.
	You see a pattern here?
	The Democrat mobocracy.
	Target said it has invested heavily in strategies to prevent and stop theft, such as adding more security team workers, using third-party guard services, installing theft tools like locking up merchandise, but none of that has worked.
	It continues to escalate.
	And so they said in some of these areas, it's unsustainable for us to stay in business.
	Well, you know what's going to happen?
	These mobs are being trained in these areas, and they're now organized.
	In the same way that alcohol prohibition organized and trained Al Capone and other people, in the same way that 50 Years of Drug Prohibition has trained and organized these cartels, these dangerous cartels in Mexico, you've now got these mobs who are practicing and learning how to do this.
	They're not going to stop doing it just because the stores shut down in their town.
	They're going to go elsewhere.
	They're going to come to your town, your neighborhood.
	And that's part of this plan, I believe, to spread this out.
	Late last year, Congress passed a bill called the INFORM Act that seeks to combat sales of counterfeit goods and dangerous products by compelling online marketplaces to verify different types of information, including your bank account, your tax ID, your contact details for sellers who make including your bank account, your tax ID, your contact details for sellers who make at least 200 unique sales and earn a minimum of $5,000
	You see, whenever the government creates a problem, as the government has created these problems everywhere, then they come up with a solution that seems to always be another excuse to get more information about you and have you have an ID and all the rest of this stuff.
	Well, you know, the crime is everywhere, so I guess we're going to have to go to a cashless society.
	Well, you know, crime is everywhere, so I guess if you're going to sell anything online...
	Or sell anything to anybody, you're going to have to prove who you are with an ID. You see how this works?
	Crisis, solution.
	Crisis, solution. Government created crisis or problem always to push us to their solution of looking at everything that we do.
	Now here's another example of this.
	CVS, the big drugstore chain, The big drugstore chain that I was talking about was one of a couple of different places that was charging excessive amounts of money for generic drugs.
	CVS charging $6,000 for $55 generic drugs.
	$55 from other people normally, $6,000 from them.
	And you know, the ridiculous thing is that probably the $55 price is probably tens of thousand percent markup.
	Probably costs them nothing to make those generic drugs.
	Anyway, they are now going to close 900 stores by the end of next year as they battle, they said, rampant retail theft.
	So, you're telling me that...
	When other people are making thousands of percent profit, charging 55 bucks for this stuff, you charge $6,000 for it, and you still can't stay in business because there's so much theft, I'm not buying it.
	Number one. There's something else going on here, and I'll tell you what it is.
	These people themselves are stealing from you.
	CVS is stealing from you.
	They're a bunch of thieves. And now they're saying they can't do this because there's too many thieves that are stealing from the retail store.
	So they said, we're going to have to reduce our retail footprint.
	And so they said, we're going to go to online sales of pretty much everything.
	We will keep retail stores open, but we will use them to offer shots and to do testing.
	You see? So this is the way they will use the chaos and the theft.
	They'll use it to essentially go from CVC to CDC. They're going to be the arms and legs of testing and shots.
	And, of course, they make absurd profits off of doing the shots.
	But they're going to convert their stores into, quote-unquote, healthcare destinations.
	Healthcare destinations.
	Shots and testing are as much healthcare as these genital mutilations that they do to kids or the abortions.
	It's not about healthcare at all.
	Keep that in mind.
	When you see a CBC, drive past them and go to somebody else, anybody else.
	Boycott those people.
	And going back to the San Francisco Bay Area, San Francisco and Oakland.
	It's gotten so bad there, they actually now have pirates.
	Pirates. Shiver me timbers.
	They're not even just going from store to store.
	They're actually robbing people in the water.
	They're stealing boats and then using those stolen boats to take over other boats and steal everything from them and then sink the boats.
	That's actually happening in Oakland.
	Pirates are...
	Um, they steal anything of value.
	They sink the ships or dump the remnants of plundered boats miles away in the Oakland Harbor or along the shorelines.
	And here's the problem.
	They just can't figure out what to do about it because, you know, um, you talked to all these different law enforcement agencies and go, well, I'm not sure who's got jurisdiction about this.
	I guess I don't have to do anything about it.
	So everybody's passing this hot potato back and forth.
	It's like, well, we're the police. We're not the shore patrol.
	Or is this the Coast Guard?
	Who's supposed to do something about this?
	Not me. It's not my job to do any of this stuff.
	It's everybody everywhere.
	Another example of passing the buck and saying, well, it's not my job.
	Colony Ridge, somebody asked about, just north of Houston.
	And this is a development that has been set up.
	It has now, you know, they have been investigated nine times and been given massive fines eight of those nine times.
	It has now become a hub for illegal immigrants and a strategic center for drug cartels.
	It's become such an amazing problem that you've got people throughout the state clamoring for something to be done about it.
	But the problem is, is that Greg Abbott is friends with the guy who is running this scam.
	Serious concerns have been raised about what's going on in the Colony Ridge area, said Greg Abbott.
	We're trying to put together as much information as possible so I can add this to a special session.
	What a joke. He knows what's going on there.
	Like I said, there's been nine investigations of what's going on there.
	Everybody in the state is talking about it.
	And he pretends like, well, we'll get to find out something about that, you know?
	It's like DeSantis and Latipos.
	Well, you know, we need to look into these vaccinations.
	I've heard that they're bad.
	Maybe we should ask the Florida Supreme Court to set up a grand jury to investigate it, because I'm not going to do anything about it, right?
	That same type of thing.
	Abbott's response to Colony Ridge has come under scrutiny due to political donations that he's received from the development's owner, William Trey Harris, who donated $1.5 million to Governor Abbott's campaign.
	Abbott has still yet to address his relationship with Harris.
	And again, nine investigations, and they have had eight times they've been fined on this.
	DeSantis chimed in on this.
	He blamed, quote, So, you know, Greg Abbott, Does his virtue signaling by putting a few people on a bus, while the guy who gave him $1.5 million is making out like a bandit and setting up a cartel town north of Houston.
	Houston, one of the worst places for crime nationally.
	And then we look at the cybercrime aspect of this.
	It was just recently, of course, that we had multiple hotel chains in Vegas that were hacked.
	And then we had Toyota was completely shut down.
	Remember that? In Japan. Their factories were hacked in Japan and shut down.
	Now, in Germany, Volkswagen's factories in Germany have been shut down over a hack.
	An IT malfunction, they said.
	IT disruption of network components at the Wolfsburg location.
	Nothing is currently working in the offices of the Wolfsburg headquarters.
	A newspaper noted an attack from outside is considered to be unlikely.
	This is always a story, right?
	No, it wasn't a hack. It wasn't a hack at all.
	And let me just say, you know, after they hacked Toyota, after they've hacked Volkswagen, Do you trust the security of their highly electronic connected cars?
	I mean, they're all pushing to make sure these cars are connected, wired up to the internet.
	If their factories and their manufacturing facilities are vulnerable, do you trust their cars?
	It's kind of like the Pentagon.
	If the Pentagon and the CIA and the NSA are constantly being hacked by other people, do you trust, for example, that the F-35 was not hacked for it?
	You know, as an example.
	The only good news is that the Volkswagens and the Toyotas do not have ejector seats.
	Unlike the F-35.
	You know, they may put them on autopilot.
	You may wish that they had ejected you, but they don't have any way to eject people as of yet.
	Yeah, like the old Hertz commercials.
	You know, Hertz put you in the driver's seat.
	These people want to take you out of the driver's role, but they don't want to necessarily do it that way.
	Now, we look at what is happening.
	There's a good article at Technocracy.com About what was just done at the G20. How they're pushing the digital public infrastructure.
	You know, just like I always say.
	Make the retail bricks and mortar shops not only hard to compete against Amazon and all the rest of the stuff, but just make them too dangerous to even go to.
	We're going to have a cashless society, but even beyond that, let's not even have any physical locations.
	Let's just do everything online.
	Push everybody into cyberspace.
	We can more easily be controlled.
	And that was what they were pushing very hard at the G20 meeting in India.
	India, as the host country, put out a document proposing what needed to be done.
	One Earth, One Family, One Future, was how they titled it.
	And of course, India has been at the forefront of this, thanks to Bill Gates.
	Bill Gates worked with India to institute the Adhar system, a Mark of the Beast system where you're not going to be able to do anything unless you've got that ID. And of course, pushing it to the poor people, saying, we'll give you welfare, we'll give you health care, but you're going to have to take the number.
	And that's what they're pushing us into as they burn down our society.
	First, they've got to take away your ability to earn a living.
	They've got to take away the middle class and that type.
	They've got to make everybody poor and dependent on them.
	And then they will say, and we'll give you some food, but you're going to have to do this and that.
	That's how they enslave us.
	And they practiced it on the poor people in India.
	Bill Gates, World Economic Forum, and the Indian government.
	And so as they were meeting in India, as the technocracy news says, you know, you go back to a 1934 course, they planned all this stuff out in the 1930s.
	I've said this many times, Elon Musk's grandfather, Joshua Haldane, You know, at the same time, you had H.G. Wells putting out Things to Come, Shape of Things to Come.
	It was a book, and they made it into a movie right away.
	They loved it. It had Raymond Massey in it.
	I've shown that many times. But, you know, they made that as a, you know, did the book, immediately made the movie.
	And in the 1930s, Joshua Haldane, Elon Musk's maternal grandfather, Tried to overthrow the government in Canada and institute a technocracy.
	They charged him, but they were unable to convict him, so he got out of town and he went to South Africa.
	But again, going back to this 1934 document at the same time, and this is sweeping through everywhere.
	The intelligentsia loved eugenics.
	They loved the idea of a technocracy.
	You had these movers and shakers like H.G. Wells.
	You had Julian Huxley, brother of Aldous Huxley.
	Aldous Huxley's writing books like Brave New World.
	His brother Julian is working in eugenics and transhumanism.
	It was Julian Huxley who coined the term transhumanism.
	But here's this document from 1934.
	And see if it doesn't read like something.
	It had seven points.
	And see if this doesn't exactly fit into what we have now.
	They didn't have the technology to pull this off.
	In the same way that when you had a DARPA psychologist in the 1960s, J.C.R. Licklider, came up with the idea of the Internet, and he called it the Intergalactic Computer Network, and then they shortened it up to the Internet.
	When he came up with that idea of psychological control, It had to wait for another 30 or so years before technology caught up and allowed them to implement it.
	So when you go back and look at this 90 years ago, they wanted to, number one, register on a continuous 24-hour-per-day basis the total net conversion of energy.
	Well, smart meters.
	Number two, by means of the registration of energy converted and consumed, Make possible a balanced load.
	Well, you know, balance this stuff off.
	If people use too much energy, carbon taxes, things like that.
	Number three and four sound to me like artificial intelligence.
	Provide a continuous inventory of all production and consumption.
	Provide a specific registration of the type and kind of all goods and services, where they're produced and where they're used.
	And of course, this is something that even with computers would be too burdensome for people to do the data mining and the collation.
	The computer has to be able to mine that data and collate and organize and present that data.
	That's where we need artificial intelligence.
	So that takes care of three and four.
	Provide specific registration of the consumption of each individual, plus a record and a description of that individual.
	Well, there you go. There's CBDC and the digital IDs.
	Allow the citizen the widest latitude of choice in consuming his individual share of the continental physical wealth.
	Nobody's going to own anything.
	It'll be collectively owned.
	There's your collectivist, communist, neo-Marxism of the Silicon Valley technical elites.
	And then finally, distribute goods and services to every member of the population.
	Universal basic income.
	We will decide what your share is going to be, and we will distribute it to you accordingly.
	But technology news, technocracy news, Editor says, look, this is not socialism, communism, or fascism.
	It is technocracy. Technocracy is a particular type of authoritarianism, just like socialism, communism, and fascism are.
	So the G20 leaders there, again, it's one earth, one family, one future was the motto.
	And what they focused on was a new concept of digital public infrastructure, DPI. DPI. And as they want to shut down our physical infrastructure and push us into something that is digital.
	And so, again, he goes back and he traces the origins back to the same types of things that were talked about in the 1930s, but then again in the 1970s, 40 years later, by Zbigniew Brzezinski, in his book Between Two Ages, where he talked about the coming technocratic age, And said things like, we're going to monitor and control everything that everybody does, and we're going to know before you do what you want to do, all of this type of stuff.
	He said that in the 1970s.
	They liked that so much, they put him in charge of the Trilateral Commission, then they put him in charge of Jimmy Carter.
	And so... Now, the G20, this is some of the statements that they made about their high-level principles, quote-unquote, and their lifestyles for sustainable development.
	We need to leverage data to support and to enable the last-mile behavior change towards adopting and incentivizing sustainable lifestyles and consumer choices.
	Yeah, choices in the sense that you had a choice about the vaccine.
	They're going to behaviorally modify you, and you will make the correct choice.
	They also said we need to unlock the full potential of AI, equitably share its benefits and mitigate the risk.
	We will work together to promote international cooperation and further discussion on the international governance for AI. They're not going to govern AI. They're going to use AI to govern you, and it will be global.
	It is, as we've said many times, this global government is not really a political government.
	It's going to be a technocracy, a corporatocracy.
	It's going to be a merger of these corporations as well as the governments.
	The governments will continue to Just like we see states continue to exist as the central government takes over everything.
	They left the states there and gradually suck the life and the power out of them into the federal government.
	By the way, we're going to have as our guest coming up in the third hour.
	Tony's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour.
	In the third hour, I recorded this interview yesterday.
	Connor Boyack, who does the Tuttle Twins, you may know him from that.
	They sold five million books of that.
	And if you see it, when you see the interview with him, you'll understand why.
	This is what I wanted to pull up here.
	They've now gone to an animated series.
	But he's also got a commercial selling the books with his young kids as well.
	But, you know, good books about politics and economics and other things like that directed, as he said, for elementary school kids and congresspeople.
	Those age groups.
	But one of the key things we talked to him mostly about was his efforts at a state organization to affect public policy at a state level.
	And he is very much of the same opinion than I am that the federal government is too far gone.
	And people put all of their effort into trying to control the thing that they have the least control over the federal government.
	He's been very successful in Utah where he lives in terms of getting laws changed.
	And so we talk about effective strategies about how to do that.
	So that's going to be in that interview coming up in the next hour.
	And so anyway, key technologies in the digital economy where all transactions will be monitored is what they're looking for.
	And we see that, you know, to facilitate vaccine delivery and climate change, this is what they're doing with CVS. And so, again, going back to what the G20 themselves said, we welcome discussions on the potential macro-financial implications arising from the introduction and adoption of CBDCs, central bank digital currencies, notably on cross-border payments as well as on the international monetary and financial system.
	So they welcome those types of discussions, but those types of discussions are not welcomed by Fox News or the people who run the conservative debates.
	And again, the Trump administration, just like the Biden administration, both of them, 100% behind CBDC. 100% behind 5G and all the rest of these technologies.
	So, again, you know, the BRICS are not necessarily, they're not a counterbalance to this.
	Klaus Schwab brags about how Putin is one of his own.
	And, of course, this is the G20 was held in India.
	And it was India who put out this digital public infrastructure document.
	So there is, at least India is a bridge to that, but so is China, really.
	Rockefeller and Gates Foundation is omnipresent.
	The whole agenda largely follows the lockstep scenario that we've talked about from Rockefeller Foundation back in 2010.
	Part of the lockdown, you know, kind of described the lockdown scenario, says the writer of Technocracy News.
	This part of the global coup d'etat, which ultimately manifests itself in the UN's Our Common Agenda, And the tightly knit alliance that's been formed between global megacorporations, financial institutions, and the UN. This is what Paul Raskin of the Great Transition Initiative and the Club of Rome refers to as the New Earth Order.
	And I think that's an important distinction because it shows how it'll be focused around the climate MacGuffin, the climate change MacGuffin.
	And so finally, this article from Daily Skeptic, the coming tyranny of smart technology is worse than you think.
	But there is hope. And I have to say, I take hope in the fact that I see all of these hacks that are being done out there.
	And that's essentially what he is saying here at the Daily Skeptic.
	You know, we see people who are able to get into these very sophisticated things, even into these government facilities, the Pentagon and the CIA and the NSA, hack and steal their and expose their tools for hacking into other people at the same time.
	They are, again, what they seek to do to us is, as he said, worse than you think.
	But they have a vulnerability.
	In the sense that these politicians really don't know what they're doing.
	He said he likened it to a drunk who doesn't look at the lamppost for illumination, but for something that he can lean on.
	And he said that's really what is happening with these people.
	They've never done any coding.
	They don't understand how these things work.
	They're leaning on other people.
	And we just need a few liberty-minded people to pull this system apart.
	They're completely dependent on us for this.
	And if we have a few people who say they're not going to be their slaves, that will be the key thing.
	One of the things he talks about...
	It's the concept of Law 3.0, where they use these smart technologies.
	Smart technologies, they call them self-monitoring and reporting technologies.
	He said it'd be better understood as surveillance, monitoring, and repression technologies.
	He gives an example of Law 3.0.
	He said, let's say you got a golf course that is out there, and they don't want people driving on the grass.
	You know, you stay on the path, the golf court path.
	So they could put up signs and they could try to punish people.
	That's the traditional way to do it, right?
	If you get onto the grass.
	Or they could buy golf carts that will not let you get off of the golf course and get onto the grass.
	So it'll look at it and as soon as it recognizes that it's grass, it will refuse to go there.
	And it'll only stay.
	It'll let you drive wherever you want as long as you stay on that path, but you can't get onto the course.
	That is law 3.0 paradigm.
	We're not going to ask you.
	We're going to coerce you into doing what we want you to do.
	And he said, whenever you've got a device that is reliant on remote updates, then that is where we are.
	Your phone is a perfect example of this.
	The person who paid for this is not the ultimate authority.
	It's like those slides mocking us.
	From the NSA, prior to 2013, we had the Ed Snowden leaks that already done the thing, said, who would have thought in 1984, they show the Apple 1984 commercial, that this would become Big Brother and they show Steve Jobs holding up a phone.
	And the third slide is that the zombies would line up to pay for it.
	There's your zombie apocalypse.
	You know, you don't have to be concerned about October the 4th and whether somebody is going to hack your phone.
	They're hacking your phone all the time.
	I used to be relentlessly trolled by Apple to update your phone, update your phone, update your computer.
	I've got an Android-based phone now, and they don't even ask.
	They just do it. And so that's where we are with this.
	You accept this update, it cripples your functionality.
	And we're going to put in any telemetry that we want to report back on you for anything that we want.
	I mean, you know, it doesn't have to keep your phone off on October 4th.
	They can update this stuff at any point in time.
	What a naive understanding of where we currently are with these phones.
	Phones are way beyond anything that they're trying to scare you about on October 4th.
	They pass, you know, that cow got out of the barn a long, long, long time ago.
	And so he says if you can't fully control a piece of equipment, if you cannot repair it, you know, because of the Digital Millennial Act, then you don't really own it, no matter how much you paid them.
	Under any previous social system, this would rightly be regarded as wrong, but under Law 3.0, this bug is now a feature.
	Now you can be made to pay forever for things that you should own.
	Now your devices will be deactivated by banks.
	Now your property will serve as your master.
	And will serve those masters who want to surveil you and control you.
	But the good side of this, as he points out, is that this is technology.
	And whoever controls that technology is going to be able to do something about this.
	You know, we can look at this and we understand that this hacking stuff is being done for criminal purposes or maybe it's being done from government to government and that type of thing.
	But I take heart in the fact that the power of the state is not complete, total, and we don't have an omnipotent state.
	And we will never have an omnipotent state if people refuse to serve it.
	We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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	Well, before Tony comes on, we've seen the news yesterday just filled with information about the judge's decision about Trump's businesses.
	And, you know, they're saying that it was fraudulent, so we're going to take away his business licenses and all these other punishments.
	This is even before the trial begins, as I pointed out yesterday.
	And so everybody was pushing back on it, saying, well, look at this.
	He evaluated Mar-a-Lago.
	At $18 million and so forth, and everybody says it's absurdly low.
	A lot of people evaluated it.
	The Wall Street Journal, I think, talked to evaluate it somewhere $300, $380 million or something.
	Eric Trump gets on and says, is this worth at least a billion dollars?
	And somebody said, well, good luck with your property taxes now if you...
	We're going to do that. They were going basically on the tax evaluation of it.
	But, you know, it was not just that.
	It was his hotels and all these other things and his apartment buildings that were being evaluated.
	But everybody's focused on Mar-a-Lago.
	But I want to focus on what happened in a South Carolina trip.
	Donald Trump went to a gun show with Marjorie Taylor Greene in South Carolina.
	And as he's walking around, a guy shows him a Glock.
	That has his face on the grip.
	And this is a gun that goes for $830.
	It's expensive because it's all carved with commemorative stuff to Trump.
	It's the special Trump edition.
	Features his photo on the handle with the words Trump45 on the chamber.
	And Trump says, well, I'm going to buy one.
	I want to buy one. And he asked the guy, he says, do they sell well?
	And the guy says, yes.
	Or what's he going to say? He says, well, they like me.
	Yeah. And I like me as well.
	And it was kind of funny to watch the video that was posted up by somebody who worked for him because he was not really comfortable with the gun.
	He didn't really want to take it.
	Eventually, you know, he stands there kind of Uncomfortably holding it, to take a still picture, he's about as uncomfortable with a gun as he is with a Bible.
	He's not one of those bitter clingers that Obama called us.
	So anyway, his campaign spokesperson wrote that Trump did buy the gun.
	And then people started saying, wait a minute, he's indicted for felonies.
	He's not allowed to own a gun.
	And so this whole thing goes back and forth.
	And they do a retraction.
	No, he didn't buy the gun. And, you know, if Trump had bought the Glock, says Daily Mail, there would have been questions about the legality of him buying it.
	Yeah, take the gun.
	Well, then there's going to be some due process later, right?
	He's not allowed to purchase a gun.
	Because, you know, once you're indicted, they treat you as if you're a convicted felon.
	And the law is really out of control on this.
	Reason had a great article about how out of control these laws are.
	You should be innocent until you get your due process.
	But isn't it fitting that the very guy who said, take the gun and do the due process later...
	The system would deny him the due process of being found guilty of a crime and having his gun rights blocked.
	No, they're going to take the gun from Trump before he gets his due process.
	Fitting. Fitting.
	Some federal judges, however, have ruled that such a rule is not consistent with the Constitution, meaning Trump could have challenged the issue in court.
	But then in addition, there's more things, right?
	He couldn't have bought it in South Carolina.
	He would have had to have it shipped to Florida.
	South Carolina, you're required to have a concealed carry permit or an instant background check done in order to purchase a firearm.
	So he would have had to fill out an ATF form.
	And if he had done that...
	It asked not just the questions that Hunter Biden lied about, are you a drug user, addicted to drugs or something like that, but also asked, are you under felony indictment?
	So if he would have filled out that form to buy the gun, then he would have been in the same situation as Hunter Biden.
	And that's one of the things that Reason Magazine talks about.
	They said, you look at this and you say, well, this is a legal trap here, and it's a bad law.
	Even if you don't like the person.
	And it shows just how we are in this country, how we'll excuse any conduct, whether it's rape or sexual harassment or, you know, you name it, if we like the person.
	Just like Russell Brand, or you should call him Russell Brandon, I guess.
	But they don't care about the actual policy.
	They just care about the person.
	Well, Tony is ready. I don't want to get Tony on because we have a lot to talk about today.
	And after we talk to Tony, we have, again, the interview that I had with Conor Boyack of the Tuttle Twins and of Libertas, the Think Tank in Utah, and what we can do at the state level.
	So we're going to take a quick break and connect with Tony, and then we will be right back.
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	He also has kindly set up DavidKnight.Gold, which will direct you to Tony, let him know that you came through us.
	But we always like to talk to Tony about what's going on in the markets, especially gold and silver.
	Tony, earlier I was talking about the move to shut down retail everywhere.
	I really think all this crime stuff that is happening, As I saw the people that, you had these stores in Oakland where it's really bad.
	They went on a two-hour strike.
	All these different retailers just shut down our stores for two hours.
	Maybe we can get the attention of the government.
	But the government doesn't want that.
	They've also got signs out there saying, we don't have any cash.
	There's no cash on board. Leave us alone.
	And they're robbing people of cash.
	And I said, you know, all of this chaos that's being pushed by these Soros District attorneys, I think that's got a purpose to it.
	I think that they are trying to get people afraid to carry anything of value like cash.
	They want us to shop online.
	They want us to be afraid to get out of our houses and go to the store.
	I think that's what's happening here.
	I think it's part of the agenda to push us into that cyberspace and out of physical space, don't you?
	Absolutely. It's Cloward and Piven, creative destruction.
	We saw this in the summer of 2020, post-George Floyd, and a lot of those coordinated riots, in my opinion, had people flying all over the country and funded by someone.
	A lot of the places that were hit were competitors to Soros.
	You go back and look at that, a lot of places that were burned down, or things that could be insured.
	Yeah, but I think that's exactly what's happening.
	You've got... We're good to go.
	And I'd like to know how that happens when they're the biggest thieves out there.
	They're selling drugs that cost $55 generic, and they're selling them for $6,000, and they say they can't keep their stores open, that they're going to only do business online, except for the people who are going to go now, they're going to maintain a physical presence so they can give people shots and do tests on us.
	Like, wow. Just change the V to a D, CDC. Yeah.
	Well, it's also a way to get bailed out in another aspect.
	Too big to fail.
	Too big to be in a retail space, and they need to be bailed out because they carry out...
	You know, the wishes and needs of the ruling order, these multinational corporations.
	And, you know, that's when you talk about 15-minute cities, or as Trump calls them, freedom cities.
	There's like, oh, well, you're just a walk away from a pharmacy.
	Yeah, it's one, right?
	It's one company, one company.
	One entity, and there's only one of anything in there.
	So again, that's just part of the system is taking away choice and making it look like you cannot go anywhere.
	And again, it's just all part of the fear.
	Yeah, yeah. And that's one of the reasons why these corporations are doing everything they want, because they want to have that concession.
	They want to be the one vendor of whatever it is that they're selling.
	And that's going to be the idea, as you point out, with a 15-minute city.
	There'll be one of this, and one of that, and one of that.
	And who are the people going to be that run that?
	It's going to be the same store in every one of these 15-minute areas.
	So why do you need to go to a different 15-minute?
	It's just going to have another CVC there.
	So just go to the one that's close by to you.
	No difference between these stores.
	They've all been given this monopoly concession by the government because they do everything that they want them to do.
	That's really what they're trying to corral us into.
	I've always thought it was interesting that the demographics researchers, for whatever, the CVS or Walgreens, they're pretty lazy.
	They just wait for one guy to put up a corner, and then they'll go to the other corner on the other side.
	Somebody's following somebody, but I don't know who's actually paying a demographics team or researcher if they just copy whenever that goes in.
	Yeah. I think, again, just trying to vie for who is going to be.
	It's kind of like the banks that right now are competing.
	I used the word auditioning last week when I talked to you about who's going to help roll out the central bank digital currency, which was going to be the closest to the Fed.
	That's what we're watching right now.
	Yeah, well, you know, in terms of authenticity.
	Especially with the Citi just put out that blockchain token.
	Yeah, let's talk about that. But, you know, the thing I talked about yesterday, I mentioned it, was the fact that you had J.P. Morgan and you had Bank of America tell Intuit that runs QuickBooks, don't do business with any gun retailers or gun manufacturers.
	And so J.P. Morgan, I forget which one, I think it was...
	Well, I can't remember. J.P. Morgan went after, let's say, retailers and Bank of America went after wholesalers, or it was the other way around.
	J.P. Morgan admitted it.
	They're absolutely unashamed about it.
	And that's what Intuit said.
	Said, look, we stopped doing business with them, with gun people, retailers and manufacturers, because they told us they were going to shut us off.
	If we didn't do it. Bank of America denied it.
	But we've already seen Bank of America, you know, turn coats about January the 6th, turning in a list of anybody that made any purchases anywhere around the Washington, D.C. area on January the 6th.
	And then also giving lists of gun purchases to the FBI. Say, here, put this together, you know, voluntarily offering that stuff up, according to the FBI. And so we've seen Bank of America do that type of stuff.
	But J.P. Morgan is just completely unashamed about it.
	And this is how they can...
	Can tighten the screws down on us even with these subordinate companies like QuickBooks.
	It truly is amazing how broad this is becoming and how the banks and financial systems and whether social media companies, how they're all weaponized to control us.
	Absolutely. If you are with a national bank right now, you need to pause and reflect.
	Going into the future, the extension of the government is going to run through the banks.
	Again, the extension of the government is an extension of the Fed.
	This is the implementation of CBDC, the control system.
	I've had run-ins with these national banks, especially being in the gold and silver business or being in the crypto business.
	They will crush you.
	And I've had it even in the convenience store business, David, where we were depositing money orders that were ours, that were taken from our customers, and Bank of America froze it.
	We had $25,000 in the account, and they froze it for about eight weeks.
	So if you were just, if you had one store and luckily we had other deposits and we could flunk for a while, but that would have bankrupted anybody else.
	And we had, you know, attorneys calling them.
	They just held it as they can.
	I would all, I'd much rather deal with a regional or more local bank.
	You may not have all the bells and whistles and the technology, but you get a person usually.
	It used to be that way in Texas, but, you know, Texas used to have in their constitution where you had to have Every bank had to have its own charter from the state and had to have its own president.
	I watched that change in the 80s.
	My dad chartered a bank when I was a kid, and they broke up Texas banking.
	And again, when they replace it with these national chains, is lending better?
	Is customer service better?
	Or does the average person have more access to lending?
	Absolutely not. This is something that's...
	Field gets narrower and narrower as the years go by on who can get access to anything when it comes to banking.
	Yeah, yeah. I remember when that happened.
	It was the merger of Nations Bank and Bank of America.
	Bank of America was in California.
	Nations Bank was in North Carolina.
	And they were given that merger and everybody said, you can't do that.
	That's going to set off a precedent.
	It's going to consolidate the banking industry.
	And this is making big national banks.
	But it was the Clinton administration that did it.
	And the guy who was pushing it.
	Was somebody who was, I think he was the Chief of Staff at the White House at the time, Erskine Bowles.
	But he had always been in the banking industry there in North Carolina.
	And so they got this thing rammed through, and that's, you know, 10 years later, we had just a handful of banks that were too big to fail.
	And we've gone, as you point out, from really state-focused and controlled banks to these giant international banks, but, you know, certainly national banks.
	And as we see what was happening with the...
	The central bank in the interest rates last week has put a lot of fear into the U.S. stock market.
	This is MarketWatch saying extreme fear has returned to the U.S. stock market.
	Investors in the grip of fear for the first time in six months, they said, as they looked at the fear and greed index.
	So what they're fearing...
	And this is coming up right in time for the, you know, the corrections always seem to come in October, don't they, for the stock market, these big disasters.
	And so now there's extreme greed and fear, and this is all being talked about in terms of the volatility index.
	Everybody is concerned about that.
	And as I look at this stuff bouncing around, as I look at, you know, all these other fads and stuff like NFTs and things, It is interesting to see gold there.
	You know, you see the value of gold that is changing in terms of the dollar, but is it gold that is volatile or is it the dollar?
	Is it gold that's volatile or the stock market or the NFTs and all the rest of the stuff?
	I don't think it's gold. I think it's those other things.
	Well, yeah, going October into the fiscal year, October 1929, October 1987 for crashes historically, and there's other examples.
	Yeah, it really comes down to the psychological aspect of the economy.
	You know, you have on one side, you've got the mainstream, you know, you've got Robert Reich, you've got Paul Krugman, all these court economists coming out saying this, Bidenomics is working, it's the strongest economy ever.
	I've talked to It's Michael Meharry from Schiffgold put out an article on Zero Hedge about, you know, you have the mainstream saying one thing, but Americans aren't buying it.
	The economy is not in good shape.
	You know, the ability to borrow, the interest rates, inflation, all baked into that system.
	People are not optimistic.
	But the market, again, it's kind of schizophrenic.
	You've got traders that are fearful of the future, but why isn't gold blowing past 2,000?
	Because gold is usually where people run to, especially traders, when it comes to not...
	You know, looking at the future with a sense of optimism.
	But you also have these other numbers that are saying that everything's great and it's pushing the price of gold down.
	You know, you looked at Reuters had an article.
	It's like, well, gold's at a six month low because the dollar is strong.
	I don't know how you can have a strong dollar when it's not backed by anything.
	It's and, you know, Treasury yields are up and the dollar looks great and economic output, even though rates have been raised at the fastest rate ever.
	fastest rate ever um by jerome powell in the fed they're still looking at strong economic data so they say so um you know you put that in juxtapose that to the chinese demand for gold is is is massive and still climbing uh and i think in july they they bought 23 tons of gold and in august it's 29 tons of gold and just keeps adding and going up and up and these central banks adding gold so So the price of gold, you know, we discussed this too.
	There's a disparity between the Shanghai Exchange and the exchanges in the West.
	And I think that's because our economies, the Western economies, the fiat currency economies, well, all current economies mostly are fiat, but especially in the West with the dollars of the world's reserve currency status, these are driven by Wall Street and other markets in London.
	There's just so much fake.
	So it's hard to know what's real.
	I just know that if you're looking at the big picture, I'm betting against the system.
	The system itself is something that I think you'd ask, is it gold that's volatile or is it the dollar?
	I don't know. I mean, history teaches me that if you dig up a coin from the Roman era, it's still worth something.
	But the paper dollar has lost 98% of its value since 1913.
	I don't know. I'm going with gold. Yeah.
	And, of course, there's other things, too, other signs on the horizon, and that is oil.
	Oil jumped 3.5% on the West Texas Intermediate Benchmark thing last week.
	It's getting close to $100, but they're also looking at it and saying, well, we think this might go to $150.
	Now, if you see something like that, you know, Jamie Demon at JP Morgan has been saying, well, we're going to go into stagflation.
	That's the way you get stagflation.
	You can shut down the economy with high oil prices and create massive inflation at the same time because we lived through that with the OPEC shock to the system.
	But now we've got Bopec, I guess, the Biden petroleum boycotts that are going out there.
	That's what I see.
	And again, so you're going to have this combination of inflation and also a slow economy.
	I think because of the inflation, that would be an important thing for Goldman.
	But I still look at gold, Tony, as a way to get outside of their system.
	You can't really predict what's going to happen with inflation or these other things and how that's going to be timed.
	But you know that gold has got real value, and you know that it's going to give you an opportunity to get outside of this control grid called CBDC. And that's what I think is the most valuable thing about it.
	Well, I agree with you on that.
	Going back to energy, the average consumer is being priced out of having cheap energy, affordable energy, on purpose.
	We talked about this before.
	Biden, the entire plan is not to add infrastructure.
	It's not to add new products.
	New drilling, new sources of energy, not energy independence.
	And again, they're just going and saying, well, we're going to release oil from the Strategic Reserve and then not replace it.
	It's insane. But this is part of the Great Reset.
	You have a complete agent of the Great Reset in the White House right now, which is Joe Biden, and they're carrying that out.
	This is the technocracy takeover.
	They want to push everything to EV, and EV just means you're not going to go anywhere.
	That's right. That's the start of the Great Reset, is the strangulation of the U.S. economy through energy.
	And that will drive up the price because of the supply.
	I don't know if the demand is really increasing, David, but the supply is dwindling.
	And there's not as much exploration.
	There's not as much investment because what's the incentive?
	So you're seeing that cut off and that's going to...
	I think energy is what broke the 2008 bubble.
	Because I was running a gasoline station at the time.
	I mean, you know, we're doing about 250,000 gallons a month.
	And I would watch the price go up and up and up and up.
	And finally, you start seeing these gallons go down, the demand goes down.
	But by that time, people have spent their money.
	And they have to choose, you know, am I going to get to work or am I going to pay this mortgage payment?
	So you're going to see a lot of defaults across the board, which is going to, I think, going back to FTX and the crypto markets, it starts seeing the stress on these regional banks, these smaller banks and lenders.
	That causes the crash.
	So I think that's what you're going to be seeing.
	But, you know, going back to gold, right now is a bargain.
	And I don't mind seeing the prices when they're in the red.
	I think it's just an opportunity for you to get in and be able to afford gold finally.
	It's only a six-month low, but still when you've seen the damage done to the economy, it's still a massive bargain.
	I think having physical gold, whether that be silver or gold itself, It's always a way to be outside of the system.
	I know more and more people just because I'm in the business that are trading in it for just services.
	I do this all the time.
	What I know about metals, I'd much rather have gold coins in my pocket than cash any day because I know how liquid gold is.
	I can always convert it.
	I know exactly what to do.
	Once you have that knowledge, you won't want cash either.
	I mean, it's just to me, I can always get in and out of silver as fast as I want, or I can use it directly.
	So it's always a good option.
	Yeah, just like Menendez believed that as well.
	Except he had a bad mix.
	He had too much cash relative to gold, I think.
	I guess he spread out all of his stash of cash and gold.
	And all of that is being used, of course.
	Look, anybody that has cash and gold, they're criminals like Menendez.
	That's another way that they're trying to use that.
	But yeah, he wanted the anonymity of having...
	Golden and cash.
	Unfortunately for him, he was also texting these people with foreign governments and using his wife as an intermediary.
	So that kind of aroused some suspicion and got him looking at that.
	But you're right about the housing bubble and the fact that they created this housing bubble.
	They did it with low interest rates and with...
	These securitized instruments that they came up with, these scams that they invented, but then the pin that burst that bubble was energy, and we've seen that over and over again.
	Go back to the thing that made such an impression on me because I was still in college, but I was about to start work when all this OPEC stuff started.
	And the thing that was the big issue with that was, you know, it was a power play on the part of OPEC. Just like this is all a power play in terms of energy on the part of Biden and the UN and the World Economic Forum and all these people are trying to create a one earth government through this world.
	Global warming nonsense and all the rest of it, but it is a deliberate attack on us to try to extend their power.
	That's clearly what's going to happen, but it's going to have some big economic consequences, and it's been the number one priority of Biden from his first day in office.
	First thing he did, you know, start to shut down pipelines and have other things off-limit, but of course they don't have any...
	They're not making any more refineries.
	So they're turning everything over to China, and they're deliberately shutting this down for all of that.
	And all of it is targeting to have financial controls over us.
	And that's why I think that gold and silver are so important, is because it gets out of that control grid that they're trying to set up for people.
	That's a key thing. Yeah, go ahead.
	Well, I was going to say, David, I think another aspect of the rising energy prices, it's kind of like a shadow bailout for the banks.
	And I say that because there's a hidden cost inside every time you go to the pump that most people never, ever talk about.
	And that's your credit card fees.
	Who eats those?
	Who pays those fees? So if you're talking about $3, $4 gasoline, that's $0.09 a gallon that's going to the bank.
	And the average gasoline retailer is only going to make about $0.04 maybe on a gallon of gasoline.
	So you've got all of these major banks and credit card retailers going We're seeing the lion's share of the increase in energy prices.
	And that's, I mean, billions and billions and billions of dollars.
	And so the more that the gasoline goes up, the more that are going to go flood into the coffers of these banks.
	And it's hidden. You don't see it.
	So in my opinion, these banks, the larger ones, are going to cheerlead rising higher energy prices at the pump, especially.
	I agree. Yeah, it is interesting as people are looking at this and you look at the financial news and say, well, you know, we're going to have interest rates higher for longer.
	So that is, you know, something that people say, oh, let's get into the dollar and we'll get out of gold, that type of thing.
	So it depresses the price of gold for a short period of time.
	But at the same time, as you pointed out, China is going...
	Big end of this, and it's not just the Chinese central bank, but it's also the Chinese public because they're seeing this property crisis that's happening there.
	And that is a massive thing looming over the horizon here.
	Commercial real estate, that's one of the things that's blowing up the Chinese market, and it's certainly going to blow up the market here in America.
	Salenti has been talking about that for a long time.
	Ever since the lockdown, you know, what it's going to do and people being reluctant to go back to work.
	That commercial real estate bubble bursting, and it's happening in kind of a slow motion way, but it's going to be coming here as well.
	That's a big part of what's happening in China in terms of people turning to it.
	And it always, it just underscores, as usual, I think, Tony, that You know, people turn to gold when there's a big crisis, and when these things have been pumped up that don't have any real intrinsic value are shown for what they are, people run to the real stuff, and that's what's happening in China right now, isn't it?
	That's exactly right. And you've got bubbles going on in China.
	You've got the commercial real estate bubble.
	And I believe even a housing bubble here in the United States.
	And people are going to have a harder time finding a place to park value.
	And that's why gold is important.
	You've got it. Gold has been money for 5,000 years plus through pretty much all of recorded history.
	It's never been zero.
	It's not ever going to be zero.
	So you have a stable money that you can hold.
	And again, am I telling you to go out and buy gold because it's going to go up two or three times or whatever percentage is going to make you rich?
	I don't know. I just know where the dollar is going.
	And when you have inflated prices and assets everywhere that aren't real...
	Whether you're talking about paper stocks, the stock market itself is a casino.
	80% have to lose so 20% can win.
	That's probably generous.
	I get that from our friend Donald Jeffries.
	He wrote the book Survival of the Richest.
	You look at the rich get richer and their assets continue to inflate because of their access to the markets and to the Fed and with ESG and all the rest of that.
	So you have these fake markets.
	So eventually you're going to have a crash in the housing market, a crash in the commercial real estate market.
	China's, the people there, I mean, you talked about the central bank and the people, the people themselves buying physical gold.
	And because we're just going, this new era is about a revaluation of currencies.
	I mean, it's unsustainable.
	You know, I was talking with my mother yesterday and she said, well, tell me the difference between, you know, was the economy really good under Trump And I said, well, I would say it was a better economy because you have to go back in time because of the amount of money that's been printed or currency that's been printed since then.
	But I told her about the, you know, you and I were, that's when we first started talking.
	We were talking about the repo markets.
	The first time I ever came on your show, we were talking about the repo markets.
	And even you and I, we were talking about, well, this is, you know, the Fed was taking what you would consider like the GDP of a small country every single month and pumping it into these overnights in the liquidity markets.
	But even you and I didn't know the full extent.
	It was $6 trillion.
	Yeah. Estimated $6 trillion that was completely made up.
	And I said, so this was all going on behind the scenes where you have this supposed Trump red-hot economy, but you also had the largest exodus of CEOs in history in the last quarter of 2019, right before COVID-1984.
	So, you know, coincidence?
	I don't think any of that's a coincidence.
	So, you know, the COVID-19 and the scandemic was a great cover for all the damage that's been done.
	The cover is off now, so I think we're floating way past the damage that's been done.
	So, to me, I think you're going to see...
	These little lulls happen.
	These economists are out of their mind.
	People know.
	I see a change in my business.
	It's a very fundamental change.
	People selling me more.
	I'm seeing larger... Items coming back into me where I'm buying them and cashing people out of the market instead of the other way around.
	So there's a lot more selling to me than purchases because people need to raise cash because the economy is not healthy.
	This is a fact.
	That's true. Yeah, it's interesting.
	I said before, I joked about Menendez, but there's actually an article on New York Post.
	Here's a headline, Tony.
	Costco sells out of one ounce gold bars as Bob Menendez faces federal probe over gold stash.
	So they tied it together as if that's what's driving demand.
	People, oh, Menendez got gold bars, so we should go to Costco and get some.
	But they're even sold out, and their price is not nearly as good as yours is.
	And, you know, people ought to deal with somebody that you know that's on our side that's local, or at least, you know, that you know, even if Tony is not local, you can deal with him by mail.
	But what I'm saying is that, you know, there is this...
	People are looking at this, and if they don't need to pull this out because they're suffering economically, they understand...
	What is safe? They just may be going to the big box retailers rather than looking at people who are on their side who've got a better price.
	Tell us a little bit about what's going on at Weiswolf.
	Well, yeah, absolutely.
	And, you know, Costco, I'd learned that they got in the gold business a while ago.
	And some of the other major retailers, I think Walmart has some sort of ties to Atmex.
	You know, they just match some of the big boys.
	They have, you know, supply chains linked up with some of these big online retailers.
	That's one of the first things I do when somebody calls me is I show them my competitor's page.
	Yeah. I'll take you here.
	This is what they're retailing for.
	Yeah. I'm never threatened by, you know, any of the big box.
	They'll get into it, but eventually, you know, you can't buy gold at the paper spot price anywhere.
	I can't. As a dealer, you know, having access to the trading floor and all, you're still going to have to pay a premium somewhere.
	And I honestly, over the years, I've learned...
	with people when it comes to precious metals.
	In the future, that will matter a great deal.
	So yeah, you might be able to find some deals at Costco or some of these online deals.
	And I've had more power to have people call me and ask me all the time, is that real?
	And I'll look and say, yeah, that's real.
	You can go get that.
	But I really think that in the future, a gold dealer will be defined by the ability to get supply.
	And I promise you, Wise Wolf's been working on that for the last year and a half because I saw this coming and I'm like, okay, we've got to have several avenues.
	They don't have it at Costco. You know, they can put some stuff up, and this is the other game you see people put up.
	It's like, well, you know, if we had it, it would be this price.
	And it's like, but you haven't got it. So they make it look like they've got a great price, but they don't even have it.
	And that's the key thing, though, I think, is the relationship.
	And that's one of the reasons why you set up Wise Wolf.
	You set up the Wolfpack so that people can have a relationship, not even with just you, but also with other people who are looking to invest in gold.
	And so I think that's the important thing, and that is the relationship that is there.
	Well, that's true. And the difference between myself and Costco is that when you call me, if I don't have it in stock, you can lock in the price.
	You can lock in the trade.
	We can do that. We're different than just about any other gold company I know.
	You call me, I'll lock in that price, and I'll get you your gold.
	Even if I don't have it in front of me, I'll source it, and the price is guaranteed.
	And thanks for bringing up Wolfpack, too, David.
	I know you've got to go here pretty soon.
	We've got your interview coming up.
	I told your listeners last week I was going to do something for any David Knight listener that upgraded or joined Wolfpack because we're trying to get as many members as we can before the end of the year because I want to do some bigger buy-ins and this is part of the The power of Wolfpack is everybody who contributes and joins, it makes sure that everybody gets a better price down the line and we can source that.
	So I'm giving away, and I've talked to Kenzie because we have a big inventory of constitutional silvers.
	That could be dimes, quarters, half dollars, even silver dollars.
	I've got a big supply of that.
	So if you join...
	Wolfpack or how join, you're going to get some constitutional silver.
	If you join or upgrade, I'm going to give you free constitutional silver, but we're about to run on the website.
	I'll have promo codes.
	And if you recommend someone, if you can help me track that, if you recommend Wolfpack to a friend or family member, let me know.
	We can give David credit, and I will also send you constitutional silver.
	So we're going to run this most likely through into Veterans Day.
	We're going to have a big, big push.
	I'm going to put a clock up on the website.
	And I'm talking about a big constitutional silver giveaway.
	So that's fractional silver to put in your safe and you can use it for bartering later.
	And silver is extremely cheap right now.
	So you're going to see an uptick, I think, in prices.
	I think one of the things we evaluate.
	So a big constitutional silver giveaway at Wolfpack.
	Always deals coming through Wolfpack as well.
	I mean, you're going to get a text or an email when we have flash sales.
	We just had a huge flash sale on one-tenth-ounce American Eagles.
	Saved people about $30 or $40 per unit over what J.M. Bullion was doing.
	So go check us out.
	Go to davidknight.gold and click Join Wolfpack and see what that's all about.
	We've got a big giveaway going on.
	That's great. Competitive...
	Competitive prices, being able to lock in the prices, always having the ability to get stuff, that's always important, but also the community and the special deals.
	Thank you so much for doing that, Tony, and thank you for supporting the program.
	Always a pleasure to have you on.
	Thank you. Thank you.
	Again, Tony Arterman, you can get there, davidknight.gold.
	It'll take you to tonyswisewolf.gold.
	All right, we're going to switch over to our interview that we had yesterday with Connor Boyack.
	We'll talk about the Tuttle Twins and also what you can do in the right way, very powerful things that you can do at the state level to really have more of an effect on government than you can ever have on the federal government.
	So here's the Connor Boyack interview.
	Hey parents, kids like us have a problem, and it's one that you can help solve.
	But most parents aren't even aware the problem exists.
	Here's the issue. Most schools today aren't teaching young kids some really important concepts, like how the economy works, or what our rights are, or the definition of true laws.
	Back before you were born, schools often taught the principles of a free society.
	But not anymore. That's why our parents have us read The Tuddle Twins.
	These books teach children about economic and civic truths that we need to learn, and there's nothing else like them in the world.
	Each book covers a different topic, helping us learn how the world really works.
	For example, these books teach kids things like how the free market is the key to prosperity, the history of the money we use, What our rights are and why we should protect them.
	How kids can be entrepreneurs.
	I definitely want to be my own boss someday and these books will help.
	Kids like us absolutely love these books.
	Maybe because they don't treat us like little children.
	Instead they help us learn important ideas and develop critical thinking skills.
	Chances are your kids are missing out on learning these things, especially in a way that's fun and enjoyable for the whole family.
	And even better, when you buy this set, you also get the awesome activity workbooks for free!
	Now listen, there are a lot of crazy ideas out there, and you need to prepare your kids.
	Yeah, if you want to raise a free thinker, you're going to need something that teaches about freedom.
	So purchase your books now!
	But be careful. Your kids will learn ideas that many adults don't even understand.
	It makes for some really interesting dinner conversations.
	Those kids are cute, but I bet yours are cuter.
	And imagine how much they'll enjoy the books!
	So what are you waiting for?
	or click the link and grab your set.
	Joining us now is Connor Boyack, and I'm really excited to talk to him about I've had a lot of people tell me who the Tuttle Twins are.
	We don't have young kids or grandkids, so I didn't know it yet, but a great series for homeschoolers, and of course, he's also involved with the Libertas Institute, and they've done a lot at the state level in Utah, so I want to talk to him about that as well.
	So, homeschooling topics, and he's got other books that he's written besides the children's books, so joining us now is Connor Boyack.
	Thank you for joining us, Connor. Thanks for having me.
	It's great to have you on.
	Those two kids that are there, it says in your bio that you've got homeschooled two kids.
	Were those your kids that are in that video?
	That's correct, yes. I thought so.
	They were very, very cute.
	I really enjoyed that.
	They're good salespeople.
	What's that? They're good at sales.
	They help promote all the books.
	Well, it's a good example of what you've been able to create with homeschooling.
	Tell us a little bit first about the Tuttle Twin books.
	So these are children's books that teach the ideas of human flourishing, what healthy societies look like.
	We're talking entrepreneurship, sound money, property rights, personal freedom, the dangers of socialism and central planning and so forth.
	And so these are story-based books that allow kids to access these often adult-level complex things.
	People often ask me what age they're for.
	My go-to answer is our children's series.
	We have toddler books, we have books for teens, but we're best known for our children's series.
	So my answer to them is they're about for age 5 to 10 and members of Congress.
	So... That's kind of the running gag.
	We've sold over 5 million copies.
	We have a cartoon now.
	All kinds of stuff.
	And it's heavily of interest with homeschoolers.
	I should also note, we have a huge contingent of our audience where their kids go to public school, private school, charter school.
	And for those families...
	The homeschool families are using it more as curriculum.
	Like, hey, we're going to learn American history or we're going to learn economics.
	For the public schoolers, private schoolers, their parents are recognizing that their children are not getting these ideas in the school, and so it's a supplement.
	I might almost even say it's a counter-agent because they know that not only are the kids not getting it in school, they're getting opposite type of ideas, victim mentality and entitlement mentality and so forth.
	So they're of broad appeal to families and really trying to fill this void that's been in the marketplace for resources that can help parents talk to their kids about real-world ideas and what that means for them.
	And we were homeschooling our kids about 15 to 25 years ago, whatever.
	And so we would go down and we would look at, we'd go to Barnes& Noble and take a look at what your first grader needs to know, your second grader needs to know.
	And we would do a lot of counter programming, just like you talked about.
	You know, they say, well, this is what we're teaching the kids.
	And it's like, they need to understand how the what this is.
	We're not going to just ignore it.
	We need to define this for them and counter it.
	But I think that and then we also, you know, just kind of kept an eye out for where they needed to be.
	But I think that's a real important thing.
	But I think the most important thing is to have a positive vision.
	You know, we don't want to just be negative, but we do want to say, now this is reality here.
	And have it in mind, the other stuff that they're being taught.
	It's great to see that there's this type of resource.
	And you said a cartoon.
	Is that what the Tuttle Twins show is?
	A cartoon? That's correct.
	So we partnered with Angel Studios.
	They're best known for doing The Chosen or Sound of Freedom.
	And so we partnered with them.
	We already have a season and a half complete and out, free to watch, no cost, no sign up.
	You just go to Angel Studios on your favorite app platform, your Apple TV, your Roku, your phone, whatever.
	And it's funny.
	These cartoons, the whole writing team, it's me and a bunch of comedians.
	And so they come up with funny jokes and really make this an entertaining show for the whole family, where we then kind of sprinkle in these ideas of freedom, but just have a lot of fun.
	So that's a blast, and we hope that we turn it into the new Simpsons, where there's like 30 seasons, but enriching content.
	Not this dumbed-down stupid stuff, but really informative, enriching content, but also super fun for the whole family.
	That's really good. I was just saying, I noticed somebody say, you can't win the culture wars if you don't have a culture.
	We have to produce content.
	And so that's what's really important with the Tuttle Twins, with your Tuttle Twins show and the rest of this stuff.
	We need to, we've lost this ability, again, to define what culture really should look like in a positive vision of politics, economics, and just what society looks like.
	That's really, really important.
	Let's talk a little bit about Libertas.
	Tell us what is going on with the think tank there.
	And you've had a lot of effects on laws.
	Your bio says that you've had about 100 laws that have been changed there in Utah.
	And I think that's important because of the focus on what is happening at the state level.
	Because I think that the federal government is gone.
	And I think we need to make changes at our state and local level.
	We saw this, especially in the last few years.
	The things that really mattered were having good local officials.
	They could make things much worse or much better throughout this lockdown and all the rest of this stuff.
	So tell us a little bit about what is going on at the state level.
	You know, I think it's a tragedy of our civic system where everyone's attention is drawn to the level of government that they can impact the least.
	Everyone is so focused on the federal issues, national crises, congressional stupidity.
	And I'm not saying don't pay attention.
	I'm not saying you need to completely shut it off.
	But everyone's energy is so focused on talking about and complaining about what's happening at the national level where the average person has statistically zero influence.
	Yes.
	The contrast to that is when you focus on a state and local level, you can have a disproportionately high impact.
	So I cut my teeth politically working on Mike Lee's campaign when he first ran for the U.S. Senate from Utah in 2009 and 10.
	So I was one of like five or six people on his early campaign.
	There were a dozen other candidates.
	We got Mike through the primary and he got elected.
	And we remained good friends and talked often.
	But here's a guy who has wanted to go support the Constitution and limited government and restrain government largesse.
	And I love Mike, but he and everyone who believes like him have been woefully unsuccessful.
	Because, you know, the system is stacked against you.
	Meanwhile, so, you know, Mike's up in Congress doing this thing.
	Meanwhile, I work here at the state capitol level, and As you pointed out, we've changed in the same amount of time, less time than Mike Lee's been in office, not to pick on him, but just to use that story as an example.
	We've changed like over 100 laws.
	We've got a ton of amazing legal reforms passed to protect people's freedoms and so forth.
	And it's not that hard.
	I'm not an attorney by training.
	I'm not an economist. I used to build websites for a living.
	And I launched this nonprofit and kind of pivoted and...
	Kind of changed my career trajectory, but I have no formal training in this.
	If I can do it, anybody else can do it.
	And it's amazing.
	Like, think of your city council.
	You go to city council meetings, who's there?
	Maybe a couple Boy Scouts, maybe the Miss, you know, whatever pageant queen, maybe a few developers trying to get, you know, zoning approvals and stuff, and nobody else.
	More importantly, there's no journalists anymore because the whole newspaper model has been blown up and these guys can't afford to have people sitting in city council meetings to play the watchdog role, which means that no one's paying attention.
	These people are getting away with a lot.
	And if you just show up, if you just ask questions, if you just show them that you're watching, you can have a big impact.
	And so I spend a lot of my time inviting people, pleading with people.
	Turn down the national news.
	Pay attention a lot less.
	It's, I think, really designed just to get this class warfare constant battle and distraction going on.
	I'll recommend a resource to your audience.
	So you mentioned Libertas Institute, which is our organization in Utah.
	We work across the country on a lot of stuff, but primarily in Utah.
	There's a group in, I believe, every single state from a conservative, libertarian perspective working on state-level policy.
	Here's where your viewers can find out about that.
	The organization I'll point you to is called State Policy Network.
	And their website, very simply, is spn.org, State Policy Network.
	And they've got a map there, a directory, that you can click on, find your map, find the group working in your state, subscribe to their newsletter, their email, follow them on social media, go to their events, donate and support them.
	These are the people working in the trenches in your state, and it's very easy for people to go get involved and be a part of it.
	That's so important, and that is really good.
	The State Policy Network, SPN.org.
	Now, you pronounce it differently than I thought it would be Libertas.
	You pronounce it Libertas or...
	So, when I started this organization, I went to a linguist, and I said, how would the Romans have pronounced it?
	It's Latin. It's a dead language.
	You said, well, there's two schools of thought.
	There's the Germanic, like, libertas, which, to be fair, is what 95% of Americans pronounce it as.
	And then there's the, think of, like, the Italian, the romantic language is libertas.
	And I was like, oh, that sounds sexy.
	I want to do that. So, we say libertas, and everyone else says libertas, but I'm a libertarian, so I don't care how you pronounce it.
	That's great. So tell us, you know, when you go to the state level, and I know from the standpoint of what I've seen, when we were homeschooling our kids, we were in North Carolina, and I know there was a constant battle, especially at the very beginning, from the teachers' union to try to shut it down.
	And this very powerful union with a lot of connections to state government was shut down by letter-writing campaign, by grassroots organizations.
	I know that they look at this stuff by the pound, and you're not necessarily going to change these people's minds with an argument.
	But they're looking at the quantity of responses that they get, and that does have a big impact on them.
	What have you found to be most effective in terms of working at the state level?
	You said going to the meetings and that type of thing, but give us an idea of what this looks like when you get involved in this.
	So here's how the average person, any of your viewers, can be impactful.
	A little pro tip that few people do, and if anyone wants to get involved, make a difference without a lot of time, here are a couple ideas that have a huge leverage in terms of your time versus your impact.
	Number one, gather 10 or 15 friends at your home for a little cottage meeting.
	Have some dessert and invite your local state senator or state representative or mayor or city councilman to come speak to your group.
	Super easy. These people love to talk about themselves, by the way.
	So they will take you up on the offer.
	Food attracts everybody.
	And more importantly, what's happening here is you are fostering a relationship with that politician to show them two things.
	Number one, you're creating value for them by giving them an audience of people to talk to and get support from.
	But number two, you're showing them that you are a connector.
	You're an organizer.
	Mm-hmm. The worst thing that you can do in politics is go up and say, I don't like this tax, or I don't like this law.
	You're one person with an opinion.
	They're not going to pay attention to you.
	By contrast, if you start an organization, let's say you have your cottage meeting, and you call it Connor's Cottage Meeting on Mondays, and that's the name of your group.
	And I go up to the Capitol or City Hall and say, hey, I represent an association, a cottage meeting group where a lot of us get together and blah, blah, blah.
	We're really concerned about this and this is something that we're paying attention to and we'd like you to vote against it.
	You've shifted it from I to we.
	It's not I think this, it's we think this.
	They don't know if there's a thousand people in your group or five.
	And they don't need to know. The point is that you're...
	It's like those animals that when a predator approaches, they puff up and get really big so as to signal that they're dangerous.
	That's what you need to do if you're the average person.
	You need to puff up a bit and show them that you mean business.
	So do a cottage meeting.
	Super simple. Do it once a year.
	Do it once a quarter and invite different local politicians or people and rotate them through.
	Okay, number two, take a politician to lunch.
	Don't do it during their busy season.
	So if it's the legislature's in session, then maybe wait a while.
	But you just say, because everyone's got to eat, and you've got to think through, like, how can you create value for them?
	So if I were to do this, I would find my state representative on the website.
	I would see what bills he's been running or what he's been working on, and I would email him or text him, and I would say, hey, I really love this bill that you were working on.
	Super important.
	I've been talking with some friends of mine and some stakeholders.
	I've got some ideas for how you can actually improve this or something else related you can do or whatever.
	Could I take you to lunch? And very often they will say yes.
	Now they will say yes even more if you are known as a connector.
	So if you do step one and then step two, if you do the cottage meeting, the networking, and then you start making those requests, you'll be very more successful.
	This doesn't take a ton of time.
	It's hardly any time.
	But this all boils down to relationships.
	That is what drives this business.
	This is why lobbyists are so successful.
	You need to foster relationships.
	When you just show up to the Capitol or to City Hall and you raise your fist and say, you know, I don't like this.
	They all know that you're just going to speak your mind and go back to sleep.
	You're not going to be there every week.
	You're not going to be watchdogging them, whatever, right?
	But if you have relationships, when I text a legislator like, hey, I got questions about that vote you just made or, hey, are you going to work on that bill?
	They know that I'm out there not only watching them, but talking to a ton of people because they know I'm a connector, that I'm not going away, and that I have a lot of relationships that can be helpful to them or harmful to them.
	So the average citizen, you want to get involved, you've got to start developing some relationships.
	And these are just a few of the very easy, low-cost, low-time ways that I think the average citizen could start to do it.
	That's really good. And of course, that is a key thing because you're also making, you're not just connecting to politicians, but you're also making connections with the people that are going to be meeting with you.
	And having that community doesn't just magnify you to the politicians, but that's a real value to all of us.
	And the future, you know, depending on what is going to come down the pike from Washington, we really need to have those local communities.
	That's so important in so many different ways.
	Tell us a little bit about what you have focused on, these hundred laws that you got changed.
	What have you focused on there?
	I know you're conservative, libertarian focus.
	What types of things have you guys been able to get through there?
	I'll give you a small and silly example, and then I'll give you a more weighty and substantive one.
	So the small and silly example.
	A few years ago, we saw some headlines across the country where little kids' lemonade stands were getting shut down for not having a business license or a food handler's permit.
	One of the stories, it was a four-year-old girl selling 50-cent cups of lemonade We're good to go.
	We go up to our legislature, we came up with a model bill, and it passed, I think, unanimously or close to unanimously, which now says that if you are under 18 in Utah, You do not need any license, any permit.
	You don't have to collect and remit sales taxes, like a literal free market for minors to encourage them to be entrepreneurs.
	You know, let's let them wait until they're 18 before the crushing weight of the state comes upon them and all its taxes and regulations.
	But at least while they're minors, now they're free.
	We've helped a few other states pass similar laws, but Utah's remains the gold standard.
	That's a silly example.
	That's great. That's a really fundamental thing.
	That's such a great idea.
	And what legislator is going to want to go out there and be the Scrooge that says no?
	You're going to have a license from these miners.
	That's a great idea.
	That's exactly. Okay, so here's the other example.
	Let's say I'm Elon Musk, and I have a car company, Tesla, and I want to do something different where I don't want to have car dealerships.
	I want to sell my cars directly to individuals, a direct-to-consumer model.
	However, in a whole bunch of states, including my own of Utah, it was illegal.
	It was literally against the law for a corporation to sell a car directly, or a manufacturer to sell a car directly to a person.
	Because the car dealers are very politically connected, and over the years, they've gotten all these laws passed saying that you have to go through car dealers, and you have to do it this way, and you have to pass these inspections.
	So I'm Elon Musk, and I'm thinking, well, what do I do?
	Well, I've got a lot of money, so I can hire lobbyists, and I can hire lawyers, and I can go sue, and I can go lobby to get the laws changed.
	That's what Elon and his buddies did, right?
	They had the resources to We're good to go.
	I'm a tradesman who has a business idea.
	I'm sitting at my kitchen table scribbling this idea on the back of a napkin, and I'm like, this is awesome.
	I pull up Google. I start researching.
	Lo and behold, my awesome idea is against the law.
	There's some 35-year-old arcane law on the books that prevents me from doing what I want.
	I have no huge life savings.
	I don't know any lobbyists and lawyers.
	I have no network, no connections, no leverage.
	I abandon my idea and move on.
	My American dream goes poof because of my inability to muscle through the process.
	What we innovated, what we got past in Utah, and we've helped dozens of other states work on this as well, is a concept called a regulatory sandbox.
	What this is, let's use this tradesman, we'll call him Bob.
	So Bob's got this business idea.
	Bob can now apply to the state to come into the regulatory sandbox and he can pinpoint a law or a regulation that stands in his way and he can say, that's preventing me from launching this business.
	The regulators will talk.
	They'll have an opportunity to review his request to be shielded from that regulation or law for two years so that he can do R&D or he can go to market, right, and start to prove and collect data like, hey, there's no consumer harm.
	There's no lawsuits.
	There's no nothing.
	Can we get rid of this regulation, right?
	Because, like, everything's okay and we're, you know, and so it's a way to develop real world data like a pilot program almost under a lower regulated environment.
	The chief problem that we've seen over the last decade is we'll go up to the capital and think of, like, food trucks that.
	We passed the country's first and only food truck freedom law to knock down all these local regulations and zoning crap and stuff that gets in their way.
	And so we go up to the Capitol and we say, hey guys, the world will be so much better if we allow these micro-entrepreneurs to just operate where they want and not have all these city restrictions and so forth.
	And then the city lobbyists go up there and they say, oh no, local control, we need to allow our cities to ban food trucks and to say that they can't operate within half a mile of a restaurant because competition is horrible, whatever.
	You're a legislator.
	You're trapped in the middle of the free market guys with their talking points and the incumbent industry protectionists with their talking points.
	And both sides are claiming the sky will fall or it will be great.
	Well, with a regulatory sandbox, now the legislators don't have to say permanent yes or no to either side.
	They can say, well, let's give it a try and see how it works.
	And put these people in a sandbox, watch them for a year or two, gather some data.
	And then at the conclusion, they can say, should we amend that regulation or law?
	Should we fully repeal it?
	And we have some data to inform that process.
	So we led Utah to become the first state to have a regulatory sandbox, any business, any industry, any size.
	And now we've helped a number of other states pass these programs as well to promote entrepreneurship and innovation, level the playing field so it's not just the Elon Musks that can muscle their way through.
	Now the little guy has a shot to launch their American dream.
	Yeah, that's very important.
	Of course, the people who got there already, they always want to saw off the lower rungs of the ladder of success so that you can't get started with it.
	That's a great approach.
	Let's talk a little bit about what do we do about what is looming over the horizon.
	We've got so many things that we see being pushed forward.
	From the international level down to the national level in the Biden administration, all of these regulations trying to take away appliances, just basic conveniences that we have taken for granted for a very long time.
	And now, since we took them for granted, the federal government is looking to take them away.
	And so, you know, there's this big push.
	Most of the stuff is now coming on the basis of climate.
	They want to take cars, they want to take appliances, and on and on.
	Is there anything that you're working on there in Utah to address that type of, you know, confiscatory regulations that a lot of it coming from the EPA?
	But, you know, anything that's coming from the federal level?
	I know here in Tennessee, where I live, they have told the government when it comes to a lot of the regulations about transgender type of thing.
	They said, well, we're willing to forego $2 billion worth of bribery in order to do things the way that we think they ought to be done.
	And that really is the way that the federal government usually insinuates itself in the process, since they don't have the direct legal authority because of the Tenth Amendment.
	They will bribe local and state governments to do what they want with money.
	So how do we tackle this looming monster that's being pushed down on top of us?
	Oh, man, you are hitting all the buttons.
	Such a challenge.
	By the way, in Tennessee, I would encourage you to look up the Beacon Center.
	They are the think tank there in Tennessee.
	They do an awesome job.
	I will. Thank you.
	They would be great to connect with.
	Now, what you're talking about is so tough because there are so many disincentives for people to engage in the process.
	I think of the road like there's this meme floating around the Internet right now.
	How often do men think about the Roman Empire, you know, and everyone's kind of joking about it right now.
	I think about it quite often, and in particular, the aspect of bread and circuses, where they would often feed the citizenry, have gladiators and all these big spectacles designed to distract the populace from what was happening politically.
	A distracted society is a disengaged society, in particular with the federal regulations that you're talking about.
	I'm a big believer in state interposition and state nullification.
	What do those things mean? Yes.
	State interposition is the state coming in between you and the federal government to say, no, we're shielding Connor from that gun control law that Connor passed, or people like Connor, not just a single individual.
	But the state interposes itself and passes a conflicting law to say, no, we're not going to enforce this.
	We're going to protect you, and our attorney general will go sue the government or federal government on your behalf.
	So the state can interpose itself to be this protecting shield.
	Even better than that is state nullification.
	There's a fantastic book written about a decade or so ago by Tom Woods called Nullification that gets into the American history of what this is.
	This is basically when a state gives the middle finger to the feds.
	And the feds pass some law, let's say it's an EPA thing, and imagine Tennessee, the legislature getting together and passing a resolution and saying, in this state, That EPA regulation is null and void.
	We will not enforce it.
	We will not tolerate it.
	We will not allow any federal officials to enforce it within our state.
	And it is the state asserting itself.
	Well, here's our chief problem.
	Ever since the Civil War, the Union of States has changed from a voluntary union into this serfdom-like subservient status where state legislatures see themselves as subunits of the federal government.
	We now have a national government where it controls and regulates the states.
	The states do not assert their own authority.
	They do not stand up under the 10th Amendment that you pointed out and the 9th Amendment to say that these are our rights.
	We did not delegate this to you.
	There's so many fantastic stories here, especially from the Kentucky and Virginia resolutions with Jefferson and Madison.
	When they were basically giving the middle finger to John Adams and the Federalist Party and trying to undermine what they were doing by getting state legislatures to say, we are not going to comply.
	There are modern examples.
	Think of medical marijuana.
	Federal law still says that cannabis is illegal, and most states have given the middle finger to the feds, and the feds have just decided to not enforce it, and they've had their attorney general memos and their There are things to...
	But it's still on the books, and that's the power of what the states can do.
	By contrast, here's another example that I'm sure your audience will have.
	Well, that one, before we leave marijuana, that was excellent because, you know, I love that one because the left are the ones who have been doing the nullification.
	And they're the first ones to scream racism.
	This is about slavery or whatever, you know, when you start nullifying.
	And so that really nullifies the left as well when you use this example because this is Schedule I drug.
	And they say there's absolutely no use for it.
	As you pointed out, more than half of the states either have a medical exemption or recreational exemption.
	Jeff Sessions, that was a key issue with him.
	But he wouldn't touch it because he knew that he didn't have the constitutional authority for that.
	So that's an excellent example he has.
	Yeah, go ahead. Here's an unfortunate one.
	By contrast, so medical marijuana is kind of a winning one in terms of state sovereignty, states standing up for themselves.
	Here's a losing one. Real ID. When Congress over a decade ago passed the Real ID Act, this national driver's license, national ID, there was a huge uproar.
	Massive uproar across the country.
	State legislatures were passing resolutions, were passing laws.
	They were standing up and nullifying.
	They were giving a middle finger to the feds.
	And so the feds retreated and they, okay, you know, we lost the battle.
	And what did they do?
	You mentioned it a moment ago.
	They bribed the states into compliance over the next decade, not not wholesale, but piecemeal.
	They would attach financial incentives to particular aspects of the Real ID Act, even though, you know, what is no longer being passed or enforced.
	And they would bribe the states into compliance and the states eager for money.
	These politicians wanting more money for their programs would say, OK, yeah, we'll do that.
	Okay, yeah, we'll do that.
	You fast forward a decade, and now, like, you know, I travel the airport all the time, my driver's license has this stupid, you know, yellow star at the top now.
	That means real ID compliant.
	My state, over a decade ago, stood up and said no, and now I have a driver's license from my state that is real ID compliant.
	Yeah. Isn't it interesting that they did the yellow star?
	It seems like there's some point in history where that was used.
	I should, you know, it's a white star inside of a yellow circle, I guess.
	No, it's described to me when I changed, we moved here, it was described to me, because we did that about two years ago, it was described to me as a yellow star.
	They described it the same way, and I thought, I don't really want a yellow star.
	Yeah. We have to be watchful.
	These people are persistent.
	They are patient. They have the long view in mind.
	And so we, like, think of the Tea Party, right?
	TARP and the bank bailouts and everyone's like, ah, you know, all these conservatives erupt.
	The Tea Party is a huge thing.
	There's Tea Party Patriots, Tea Party nonprofits, Tea Party everything.
	And two or three years later, nothing.
	That's right.
	They went back to sleep.
	They went back to work and family and everything like we, you know, people on the right focus on that actually improves our society.
	But they disengaged politically.
	These elitists, these leftists, everybody knows they just have to wait out the storm, let everyone like get really in an uproar, pass their resolutions against real ID.
	And then we'll just work on this incrementally over time and still get what we want.
	So we are playing a losing game by not engaging and being watchful and being persistent when the other side absolutely is.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
	And of course, you also have to have a goal.
	And I think that was always a problem to me for the Tea Party.
	Taxed enough already.
	OK, so what do you want to do?
	You want to cut spending or cut taxes?
	Or what do you want to do? Which taxes do you want to cut?
	Which spending do you want to cut?
	There was just nothing there.
	And you had everybody jumping on board with that to make money.
	The people who are organizing it.
	And I think the people also looked at this and said, well, there's not really anything here.
	And it kind of fell away. But you're right.
	The good example... Is the real ID thing.
	Because people just went to sleep.
	And now we've got the TSA out there doing facial scans, taking it to the next level.
	You know, what do we do about the TSA? Because here's my concern.
	You know, a key thing that we saw, especially in the last few years, what was it that helped us to survive this lockdown?
	And that was mobility.
	And it was cash. And it was being outside of the system.
	They now want to take away our cash.
	They want to take away our mobility.
	If they're able to take away our cars and make us dependent on renting our rides, you know, renting a vehicle by the ride, not even, you know, leasing a vehicle.
	If they're able to do that, if they're able to take away our cash, they really have got us and there's not really anything we can do.
	So what do you think we should do about it?
	And what are you working on in terms of that in Utah?
	This is such a challenge, what you're pointing out, because I'll use your last example just as a direct response.
	This rent your vehicle, like imagine a world two decades from now, which I don't think is a far-off fantasy.
	Probably sooner. Yeah, probably sooner.
	Where I can have my car drop me off, a self-driving car, fully autonomous.
	It drops me off at work.
	Rather than sitting here, it's right outside my office window, right here outside a frame.
	Rather than sitting there for eight hours, I can monetize that vehicle.
	And I can have it go basically play Uber and earn revenue for other people who will pay it.
	And I just say, hey, you just need to be back here at 5 o'clock to pick me up.
	Well, all of a sudden, you no longer need parking lots.
	If you have a society where there's very few people who are just owning their car and sitting there You can at least substantially reduce the size of parking lots because you don't need just all these big empty spaces.
	That can do tremendous things.
	So I am someone who loves technology and sees a huge upside to improving society when implemented the right way.
	Things like AI. I think it can bless humanity in a whole ton of ways.
	But these things like self-driving cars, or I'm a big fan of Bitcoin, but then you've got CDBCs on the other side, this kind of dark version of what's going on, or self-driving cars, or Tesla robots that they're building right now, Neuralink, Like, all these things can do so much good and make our lives so much more convenient, enjoyable, productive.
	But we have to have a philosophical base in our society of human freedom and flourishing to inform and guide and limit all those activities to keep them constrained.
	Otherwise, I'm worried that these amazing technologies, while they have their positive side, are going to emerge with the dystopian side with these kind of elitists in control.
	I'm not one to say, well, because our philosophical base is not there and we don't have a society that believes these things, let's shut all this technology down and make sure that we don't have this Orwellian future.
	I am one to say, look, the toothpaste is out of the tube.
	These things are going to happen anyways.
	Let's focus on strengthening that philosophical base so that the innovators and the regulators and the politicians and everybody else Approach this and handle everything the right way so we can have the positive outcomes while minimizing the negative ones.
	And that's where the Tuttle Twins comes in.
	Because you've got to set up those values, those bases.
	And it's because we've had families atrophy and schools and churches have atrophied.
	And we don't have those types of values that are being put out there.
	As you point out, all this stuff is tools.
	And, you know, a very powerful tool can be a really good thing or can be a really bad thing depending on who is wielding it.
	And so we have to shape the people who are going to be wielding it, which is going to be our kids and the future generations.
	That's why it is so important, you know, taking that approach.
	And I'm glad that you have put that resource out there.
	You know, people need to take a look at that.
	More people need to be doing that type of thing as well, because that's really where the battle is.
	The battle is really for the spirit and the soul and the heart.
	And the battle for the future is the battle for the soul and the heart of our children.
	And so that's the key thing.
	Talk to me a little bit about your books.
	You've got a couple of different books.
	Mediocrity, Children of the Collective.
	Maybe there's some other ones here.
	Tell us a little bit about Mediocrity.
	So, that was a fun one.
	I'll share the story this way.
	In April of this year, it was the 40th anniversary of a report that the Reagan administration put out April 26, 1983.
	They titled it, A Nation at Risk.
	It was the conclusion of an 18-month study that a team that called themselves the National Commission on Excellence in Education...
	Their study went across the country.
	They were on a listening tour, talking to teachers, parents, reviewing textbooks, curriculum, everything else, trying to understand what's going on, trying to assess education in America.
	They write this report, A Nation at Risk, and in that report they said, and I quote, America's educational foundations are being threatened by a rising tide of mediocrity, and that if a foreign government had attempted to impose upon America the very mediocre educational performance that now exists, we might have viewed it as an act of war as it stands we've allowed this to happen to ourselves 1983 when i share this story
	when i'm out speaking i'll ask audiences okay raise of hands who here in this audience believes that education in america has substantially improved in the last 40 years to date Today, maybe I'm an intimidating person and people are scared of raising their hand in general, but no one has raised their hand ever because we all know that education has gotten worse.
	If they said in 1983 that it was mediocre, this rising tide of mediocrity, What words would you use to describe what it is today?
	I might choose some four-letter words that might not be too family-friendly.
	Consider this data point.
	I've got so much I can share here, but I'll just share this.
	A few weeks ago, a couple months ago now, the NAEP scores came out.
	These are the kind of statistical assessments, all the standardized testing that they do for kids.
	And they do it, you know, fourth grade and eighth grade and twelfth grade, and they've been doing this for decades to track academic progress.
	Not that I'm a fan of standardized tests, but they're at least one useful way to kind of have your finger on the pulse.
	Well, the data that came out Just a couple months ago, this particular data point is from 8th graders across America.
	And it found that only 13% of them are proficient in civics in American history.
	1-3, not 3-0, 1-3.
	13% proficiency.
	I mean, that's like way, way, way worse than a failing grade.
	So now fast forward 20 years, 40 years, 60 years.
	These kids...
	Who have been educated, so-called, in a system of sub-mediocrity are now voters.
	But they're ignorant.
	They're historically illiterate.
	They're civically disengaged.
	They're distracted by the bread and circuses.
	They know nothing about their history.
	You know the quote, those who don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
	So they're much more likely to support the authoritarian thugs and the socialist crazy people who are repeating every doomsday failed We're good to
	go. One might say in response, well, yeah, COVID, all this learning loss.
	No, no. This has been a down and downward trend for a very long time, pre-COVID, absolutely.
	So my plea to parents out there is not necessarily to homeschool, although I'm a big fan of homeschooling.
	It's just... Do something else.
	It could be a private school, a micro school.
	It could be a homeschool. It could be a homeschool co-op.
	There's so many options today.
	But why would you want to send your children not only to an intellectually sub-mediocre system, even if you think, oh, well, I live in a good community.
	How many libs of TikTok videos have we seen now from conservative communities where the schools are teaching garbage and parents don't realize it until it's too late?
	So do something else.
	Wake up. Don't think, well, I went to public school and I turned out fine.
	It is a different world and you need to pay attention.
	You need to be intentional and take action to save your kids.
	I'll end with this. Pastor Vadi Bakum has this quote I love where he says, Can we as Christians, in his case, this religious quote, can we as Christians really be surprised when we send our children to Caesar's schools and then they return home as Romans, right?
	And so we have to realize if we're surrendering our children to certain people, then it's those people's values and worldview and things that are being put into our kids.
	We need to wake up and be more intentional and rescue our children from this sub-mediocre system.
	That's right. Yeah, it was a real blessing, I think, in disguise as the schools went to Zoom classes, parents could finally see what was happening in their child's classroom.
	They always had this, when I talked to them, you know, for decades, oh, it's not happening in my kid's classroom.
	Even if it's happening in the same school, same school districts, you know, and all the rest of the stuff.
	But it seems like, you know, you talk about the Reagan administration.
	I remember that report that you talked about.
	And I remember Charlotte Isabe, you know, goes to Washington to help to shut down the Department of Education, which was created during the 1980 campaign, as Jimmy Carter created it, and Ronald Reagan was going to get rid of it.
	And yet they didn't do that.
	And so she got out of it, and she wrote the book Deliberately Dumbing Us Down.
	We're able to dumb us down, but now they're going into a kind of a depraved mode.
	You know, let's take the kids even deeper.
	Let's take them subterranean.
	And that's what they're doing with the social engineering that we see.
	And I think it's very key that the Obama administration and the Biden administration have been using the power of the purse to incentivize this.
	But now it's gotten to the point where when you talk about...
	People getting active locally, showing up and talking to people.
	Not just criticizing, but also making relationships with people.
	But when you have these school board meetings, it's kind of interesting how over the last couple of years now, since the COVID stuff, how the school board meetings have become of national interest.
	The Department of Justice is taking an interest in this.
	And you've got to look at this and say, why is this so important to them?
	And why is it not important enough for us to just do this completely differently?
	You know, it seems like these people are pushing on this institution that's not going to change, but they keep pushing on it.
	And that seems to be really the way that they want to run this through.
	You know, what do we do to wake people up to get them to try something different, as you're pointing out?
	Well, I think of the Reagan quote, as you point out, you know, he was supposed to repeal the Department of Education.
	That didn't happen. But he himself said that the closest thing to eternal life on Earth is a temporary government program, right?
	And here we are with this Department of Education and all the billions of dollars that they've spent And can anyone point to a single statistic and a single educational outcome that has measurably improved as a direct result?
	I'm not even asking for causation.
	Let's even just go to correlation.
	Do you have any correlated data to suggest that education outcomes in government schools has improved in the past 40?
	No, you don't. No one does.
	These guys have just been spending all this money while they oversee the decline and the dumbing down, the deliberate dumbing down I think of a public school teacher.
	His name is John Taylor Gatto.
	He passed away a few years ago.
	He was a public school teacher in the state of New York for, gosh, almost 30 years.
	And he was someone who would work within the system.
	He hated the system of which he was a part.
	He really struggled with it, but he was working from within because he loved kids.
	He wanted to inspire them and connect with them.
	His classes got rave reviews.
	His students loved him.
	They kept in touch for a long time.
	He would buck the trend.
	He would take the kids on impromptu field trips and just go to the park and get them outdoors.
	He's this guy that loves kids.
	So then he gets awarded later in his profession New York City Teacher of the Year.
	And then the following year, he gets awarded New York State Teacher of the Year.
	Keep in mind, these awards, these Teacher of the Year, are from the establishment, the PTAs, the teachers' unions, and so forth.
	He wins New York State Teacher of the Year.
	And in the very same year that he wins this award, he writes an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal titled, I Quit, I Think, in which he goes on to say, if anyone knows of a profession where I can help kids without also hurting them, please let me know.
	He quits his profession.
	He starts writing books and goes on a speaking tour in his last years of life.
	Amazing guy.
	But it shows what we're up against.
	This system, like I had a teacher, not a teacher, a parent, a few months back, I was speaking to a parents group.
	And this woman in the Q&A after raised her hand, said, look.
	You know, critical race theory, social emotional learning, garbage books in the libraries, all this, you know, pet litter boxes in the classroom now, and like all these, not for pets, right?
	For the furries, yeah. Furries, right.
	And so she's rattling off all these problems, and she says, the school system's so broken.
	I said, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on.
	I'm going to respectfully disagree with you.
	I do not believe the school system is broken.
	I believe it has been perfected based on a flawed design.
	When you go back to its originators, its creators, you go back to Horace Mann.
	Here's a guy who brought over the Prussian education system.
	First commissioner of education in the country, Massachusetts.
	He's this Fabian socialist, secular humanist guy, and a collectivist.
	He wanted to take children from their different religions and cultures and values and family traditions and homogenize them into one single American culture.
	That was his dream behind his common school.
	So he brings over this Prussian model to America, this very authoritarian model, which is the model that our government schools are now based on.
	He's got this quote where he says, we who are involved in the sacred cause of education should look to parents as if they have given hostages to our cause, referring to their own children.
	He talked in another quote about how men are like cast iron, children are like wax.
	It's very hard to change the mind or the heart of an adult.
	It's like cast iron, very firm, but children are like wax.
	This is exactly what... You know, all the authoritarian thugs, the despotic dictators, the Hitlers, the Maos, the Stalins, they all say similar stuff.
	They all go after the kids because they want to propagandize them and brainwash them.
	So back to this woman, I say, I don't think it's broken.
	I think all these manifestations you're seeing are outgrowths of a particular design that was designed with intentionality.
	These people did not want to create a populace of critically minded people.
	excuse me, critical thinking, independent minded, entrepreneurial individuals.
	They wanted to create a society of subordinate soldiers and citizens who would do what they were told and follow orders and learn their station and support the collective.
	That was their intent.
	What we're seeing today is just an outgrowth of that.
	We need to discard the design and reboot the system in a way that will produce the outcomes that we want rather than kicking against the pricks and getting frustrated that why are kids turning out this way and why are the schools not doing this?
	It's because they were designed this way.
	We need to scrap the blueprints and build something better.
	That's right. It's doing exactly what it was designed to do.
	And when we look at the different means of control, again, it's the purse, showering people with money.
	But then they create the standards out of their regulatory.
	You know, the Department of Education has been very, very powerful in terms of providing the money, the bribes to do this kind of stuff.
	But also the standards.
	You know, when they put out those standardized tests, that's a way for them to control when you do do something different.
	Like, you know, if you want to have some kind of an independent school or set something up, if you want to get it accredited, then they're going to tell you what you have to teach the kids and what they have to regurgitate in order to get accredited.
	So the standardized tests are going to control the content.
	They're going to control the textbooks and all the rest of the stuff.
	But at the same time, you know, the bread and circus thing has taken itself to the level for our kids of the furries or whatever.
	It's gone to not just a banality, not just to a mediocrity or stupidity, but it's gone to a depravity.
	Because, again, it's very much like Brave New World where they want to take them into a world of sex and drugs so that they're not a threat to them and a way for them to control the kids.
	That's what we need to be aware of.
	I think that's really what we need to push back against.
	I'm sure that that is what you were referring to when you talked about Horace Mann and his approaches to that.
	But that has always been the issue.
	You're right, going back to the middle 1800s, these socialists said, well, we can't change society the way we want to because we can't get to these kids early enough.
	So let's get them at a very early age.
	And, of course, you know, God tells us you train up a child in the way they should go, and when they're old, they won't depart from it.
	We're being told this by everybody from God to Hitler has told us this stuff.
	Maybe we ought to pay attention to it, right?
	Yeah, no, I think you're on to something here.
	That book in particular, Children of the Collective, was the result of a quote I read years ago from Michael Novak.
	I've got the quote pulled up right here.
	The entire book is basically an expanded version analyzing why this quote is so true.
	Here's what he says.
	Between the omnipotent state and the naked individual looms the first line of resistance against totalitarianism.
	The economically and politically independent family, protecting the space within which free and independent individuals may receive the necessary years of nurture.
	So he illustrates, on the one hand, you've got this omnipotent state, you've got naked individuals, socially naked, emotionally naked, spiritually naked, physically naked, in terms of their insecurity and weakness compared to the authoritarian state.
	And in the middle, he's got this first line of resistance.
	What I find fascinating, which is the politically, economically independent family.
	So our families need to be independent.
	We need to be financially independent.
	I mean, think of the founding fathers.
	Who would have been there had those particular individuals not had had the financial station in life to just go sit in a room and debate politics for weeks on end, right?
	And so being financially free is critical, not just so you can go relax on a beach, it's so that you can move up Haslow's hierarchy of needs and you can actually do greater things to bless humanity because you're not hand-to-mouth working the whole time.
	And so what I find fascinating is he says this economically and politically independent family unit is the first line of resistance to So then you think, well, it doesn't say it's the line of resistance.
	It's the first line.
	What are additional... Like my skin.
	Let's say someone in my office sneezes or something.
	There's pathogens floating around the air.
	My skin and organ is my first line of resistance.
	But if that pathogen, like if I have a cut on my skin or if I breathe it in or whatever, my body has additional mechanisms to still try and fight that pathogen, even if it gets past this first line of resistance.
	If the family is the first line of resistance, what are additional ones?
	Well, I think the extended family certainly is a really important one beyond the nuclear family, having multiple generations under one roof or in one community where you can support one another, but beyond that.
	I would say, and you're asking a lot of good questions about, like, what can the average person do, or what can people do, or what's the message?
	Here's a critical one, I think.
	When Alexis de Tocqueville was sent to this new nation to kind of survey what the heck was going on in America, he wrote the books Democracy in America.
	It was his survey in the early 1800s of what was going on here.
	And he talked about, with a sense of awe and wonder, what he called mediating institutions.
	He says it was so remarkable that throughout Europe, he says, whenever someone would have a problem, they would raise their hand and ask some minister of government, some public functionary, some elected or bureaucrat person, they would go to them for help to solve their problems.
	That was the common thread behind problem solving in Europe.
	By contrast, he said, when Americans have a problem, they form a society.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
	There's a gentleman named David Beto, B-E-I-T-O. He wrote a book a few years ago called From Mutual Aid to the Welfare State.
	It is a phenomenal book highlighting how these mediating institutions were basically put out of business by the omnipotent state, by the welfare state.
	That in early America, whether you were Irish or you were Protestant or you were Mormon or you were Mexican or whatever, all these communities fostered mutual aid societies where they would help one another.
	We're talking life insurance, death insurance, orphan care, elderly care, And America was littered, littered with these mutual aid societies.
	Very economical and very, I mean, think of like the Kiwanis and the Rotary and all these other groups that are kind of legacy holdovers and have really just decayed because our society no longer values these things.
	But in early America, they were everywhere until the welfare state started to be passed.
	They started passing these laws.
	Suddenly people were like, wait a minute.
	My membership dues for this mutual aid society are $10 a year.
	This was, you know, back when inflation wasn't nearly as in effect.
	I'm paying $10 a year for this mutual aid society, but I'm paying taxes of like, you know, $18 a year, and that's providing all these welfare benefits.
	Why am I still in this mutual aid society?
	So everyone made the rational decision to, I mean, they went out of business literally like, I mean, not literally, but figuratively overnight because of the state.
	This is why, this is why we need not only strong families, But we need mediating institutions.
	We need to rebuild social fabric.
	You can have libertarians like me out there saying, shrink the government, stop passing stupid laws, let's vote that person out of office.
	But if our society is not strong, then the state will be.
	That's right. I think that has the answer as well.
	To fight the collectivists, to fight these central planners, to shrink the state.
	We've got to focus on our families.
	We've got to rebuild social fabric.
	We've got to strengthen our society.
	And then, naturally, the state will go weaker because fewer people will be turning to it to be the source of their comfort and providing for their needs.
	They'll turn to these social programs, in the true sense of the word, societal programs, mediating institutions.
	That's where we need to be as a country.
	So well said. And, you know, as you're talking about this, I'm thinking about it.
	I've talked about this many times.
	We've had Charles Murray talked about the effect of the welfare state.
	I started to say deliberate dumbing down of America, but it was Losing Ground was his book that he did.
	Now he's out there pushing universal basic income.
	You know, it's amazing to see how this shift has happened.
	And it's been done in a very subversive way in the sense that—and it's subverted not just the poor people in the inner city.
	You know, I've talked to Jack Cashel, who's got a book, Untenable.
	He was talking about how he saw this happen in the city where he was.
	I've talked to people who have— Ben, who are my age, and they had vibrant black communities, and it was decimated.
	They had businesses that were working.
	They had intact families.
	And then the welfare state comes in, and everybody just starts taking the free money.
	And it's a very corrupting thing.
	They want to do that with universal basic income.
	But as you're talking about this, I'm thinking, you know, It hasn't just taken the poor, it's taken the middle class, the upper middle class, because the government is always there to hand you money to get you to do whatever they want you to do.
	And there is so much money that just this unlimited printing press coming out of Washington...
	Well, let's allow people who are homeschooling to get money and to come and participate in these activities.
	And I've always opposed that because I realize what a corrupting thing it is We have to start taking responsibility for what we want to do in our families.
	And it's even corrupted the churches.
	The churches used to be a part of these mediating institutions.
	The churches would start hospitals.
	The churches would start schools.
	They don't do that anymore.
	The government does everything for everybody.
	And so we don't even connect to our fellow man anymore.
	We're all connected to the government, as you were talking about earlier in the program.
	Everybody's like, well, what's going on in Washington?
	And who can I vote for in Washington?
	Why? Because that's where the money is flowing from.
	And so that's the thing that I think we've got to get past and beyond.
	You know, these standardized tests, but it's really the money that is flowing through all this stuff.
	And, you know, DeTocqueville said everybody is focused on what's the government going to do to fix the situation.
	We had voluntary libraries, voluntary fire departments.
	We did our own schools, our own hospitals.
	Now everything has got to come from Washington.
	We've been trained. We're like wild animals who used to be able to take care of themselves, and we've been hand-fed for so long by the government that we're dependent on it, and now the government has turned feral.
	And when you go to the national parks, you see the signs that says, don't feed the animals for that precise reason.
	If we care about their long-term health and strength as a little animal community, they need to be able to survive on their own.
	You're actually harming them by supporting them.
	And so if the government is supporting us, it is harming us.
	And just like the education system is being deliberately dumbed down, I think it is also deliberate that we are being, so many of us are financially supported.
	Are directly financially supported by the state.
	If you talk about government schools as well, it shoots to like 90%, right?
	But excluding the schools, direct payments, it's over 50%.
	No wonder voters are increasingly shifting blue.
	No wonder many of our red states are turning purple.
	When people are directly connected to the state, they are much more forgiving of it, and they are much more tolerant of its abuses because they don't want the gravy train to end.
	That's right. Yeah, what we have now in the area where I live, the Smoky Mountains, they're very concerned about people not feeding the bears.
	Our federal government has essentially gone through everybody's neighborhoods putting trash cans to give us junk, and we've been so acclimated to this garbage food and the trash cans, we would never be able to survive without it.
	It seems like, but we've got to break that dependency somehow.
	A great way to do it is with the next generation, with the Tuttle Twins books, and you've got TuttleTwins.com, right, where people can go find that, as well as, I'll just pronounce it as Libertas.org.
	So TuttleTwins.com and Libertas.org.
	It's really been a pleasure talking to you, Connor.
	Thank you so much. Likewise.
	Thank you. Thank you. Connor Boyack, doing great work there.
	Thank you so much. Well, folks, that's it for today's program.
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