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The David Knight Show - 06/01/2023

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	The End
	free speech to free minds.
	Soon.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's the 1st of June.
	You're our Lord 2023.
	Well, today we're going to take a look at the debt ceiling.
	They sealed it. They sealed our fate there in the House.
	It passes on to the Senate.
	But even though most of the Republican candidates are speaking out about it, Trump has been silent.
	He's going after Kayleigh McEnany.
	Calling her Milk Toast.
	That's a deeply wounded narcissist.
	We will talk about that, but we have some really serious information as well.
	One of the things that's been very concerning to me is the C2PA. It's actually the CCPA. That's the way I like to refer to it.
	It's like the Chinese Communist Party of America.
	It is a high-tech coalition.
	To essentially do pre-speech censorship.
	That's the way you need to think about this.
	Pre-speech censorship in our pre-crime banana republic.
	We'll be right back.
	We've had the House vote to raise the debt ceiling.
	McCarthy got his way.
	He had 29 Republicans who opposed this.
	I'm sorry, 71 Republicans opposed it.
	46 Democrats.
	In other words, he got 68% of the GOP to go along with him.
	78% of the Democrats, and they expect to have about 78% in the Senate as well of the Democrats.
	Does that tell you something about it?
	Do you remember that Kevin McCarthy said, there's nothing in this at all for the Democrats.
	Then why are they supporting it at a much higher level than the Republicans?
	That should be a big warning sign for us.
	You know, they're happy to say, you know, we're going to raise the funding for the IRS by $80 billion, even though their current budget is $16.
	We're going to raise it by $80 billion.
	And the Republicans say, how dare you?
	We're going to protect the taxpayers.
	We're only going to raise the budget of the IRS by $60 billion.
	And they cry crocodile tears in the Democrat Party.
	And the Republicans tell their base that they're doing something about this.
	It does not cut any real federal spending.
	That's the bottom line. It gets rid of the debt ceiling for the next two years.
	And it says, well, we have a resolution that we would like to, you know, Get fiscally responsible in four years after the next election.
	Great. That's like saying, next week we're going to go on a diet.
	That's what we always say around our house.
	It never happens.
	And it never happens in Congress either.
	These people are feeding at the trough with everything they can find.
	By then, the total U.S. debt will be at least $35 trillion dollars.
	And as Zero Hedge points out, well, on its way to unsustainability.
	They really don't care.
	After today, I'm going to put a commission together to look at the entire budget, said McCarthy.
	This debt is just too large.
	The diet begins in two years.
	So you had the rule for the debt ceiling was opposed by 29 GOP-ers.
	But anyway, things are going as planned, said Biden.
	That's right. The controlled opposition.
	The Republicans who want big government just as much as the Democrats do.
	You can see this in people like Lindsey Graham and Trump clamoring to get back federal control of abortion, for example.
	We have a horrific attack at an abortion clinic on two elderly men.
	One in his 70s, the other was 80 years old.
	Broken facial bones and all the rest of the stuff.
	They're standing there silently praying.
	What did you expect from people who chop babies up and support that?
	Anyway. The Hill says the bill is likely to get over 40 Senate Democratic votes.
	In other words, 80%.
	It'll likely need at least 10 to 20 yes votes from Senate Republicans.
	Mike Lee has threatened to use every procedural tool at my disposal, he said, to slow down the bill.
	Rand Paul has also...
	Said that he's going to be demanding a vote on his conservative alternative that would cut total federal spending by $545 billion over two years.
	It's kind of the penny plan type of thing.
	Let's just, you know, gradually, you know, we don't have to go on a full starvation fest tomorrow.
	Cold turkey. Let's just cut down a little bit of what we eat.
	Let's cut out one meal or something.
	They're not even asking for that.
	They're not even asking for a third.
	That's a very tiny amount.
	According to Lee, the current bill simply does not do what its proponents claim it does.
	It's not even close.
	Rand Paul said that he won't vote for any bill to raise the debt ceiling if it doesn't balance the federal budget in five years.
	Which would require $500 billion in future cuts.
	And we're talking about real cuts.
	You know, when they say cut, what they mean is, you want to increase this program by $80 billion, we'll increase it only by $60 billion.
	We cut it by 25%.
	Okay?
	No, you didn't. You didn't cut it by $20 billion.
	and he raised it by 60.
	Also opposing the current deal are Senators Rick Scott and Mike Braun.
	The bill leaves us with trillions more in debt, they said.
	No clear path to less inflation.
	This is Scott talking.
	Or a balanced budget.
	I appreciate the work of Speaker McCarthy to try to negotiate a good deal when Biden refused to engage, but I cannot support this bill.
	So the question was, I looked at and I saw that Thomas Massey had not opposed this.
	He had signed on to it.
	I voted to get it out of the committee and then voted for it.
	And the reason he voted for it, he said, was because they put in one thing that he wanted.
	It's not a pork barrel project.
	It's a complicated thing.
	And because they put everything together typically in an omnibus bill, that makes it impossible for anybody to cut spending.
	And so his one thing that he was able to get put in there is the reason that he voted for this.
	And the one thing that he did was to break out, instead of having an omnibus bill, you go back to the way that it was just a couple of years ago, you know, before Pelosi started doing all these omnibus bills.
	You go back to where you have at least 12 different votes on different parts of the federal government's spending.
	And if you do that...
	You have an opportunity to actually look at it in a little bit more detail.
	Still not much, but it's a big improvement over just one bill that covers everything.
	And so he looks at this as an essential reform of what Pelosi did and was continued on by the Republicans.
	And so for that reason, he signed on to it.
	The provision to restore what is called regular order.
	He said, if we want to control the overall amount of spending, then that's our opportunity.
	He says, I don't like this process that led to this bill.
	I'm not going to lie, sending one person to go into a room with another person, no camera in there, and they come out and say, up or down, take it or leave it.
	He said, that is not a good process.
	But that's not the process that we're going to follow when we get to the appropriations, and there are things to dislike and things to like about the bill.
	But the redeeming portion for me is section 102, where he put that in what I just talked about.
	The spinning hunk became known this year for wearing a debt limit counter on his suit jacket.
	He's got a little electronic lapel thing that is counting out the debt.
	There's an app, not an app, there's a website for that.
	There's probably an app for that as well, but there's a website where you can go to see that.
	He's got it on his lapel.
	One of three stalwart conservative Republicans who sought a place on the Rules Committee, along with Chip Roy and Ralph Norman, As part of the agreements for Kevin McCarthy to become Speaker.
	Roy and Norman have been vocal opponents of the bill.
	And so Massey broke with him because he said, we've got to change the way we put these omnibus bills together.
	Yeah, I understand that.
	I mean, we can disagree over that detail, but it is a very complicated situation.
	And again, you know, when you look at these budgets...
	It's kind of like voting for president.
	I've said many times, it's like being able to go shopping once every four years.
	And when you get to the store, you don't get to walk up and down the aisles picking what you want.
	You've got two baskets there that they put the stuff in there.
	Candidate A or candidate B. And you take it or leave it.
	That's what you've got.
	So you're going to wind up with a lot of stuff you don't like.
	And you're going to pay for a lot of stuff you don't like.
	See, the problem is the two-party system.
	The problem is too much power in Washington.
	The problem is that the federal government has put everything into its basket.
	Government is too big.
	There's too many different issues.
	You'll never have a good resolution of it.
	That's why I always focus on what we can do to nullify the federal government at the state and the local level.
	That's where we need to focus.
	They're not going to give up power.
	They'll only have the power taken away when Their empire collapses because of financial stuff or because of war, because of both of those things.
	That's the only way that power is going to be taken out of Washington.
	It's not going to be done in an election.
	Come on. You know that.
	It's a selection.
	And they've got it rigged anyway with these different candidates.
	We can talk about the important policies.
	We can get an understanding of how they're going to be coming at us.
	But, you know, when you understand how they're going to be coming at you, that's why, you know, last week when I talked to Senator Nicely, He said in Tennessee, they understood how they were going to be coming after us.
	And so they made some advanced preparations to say, you're not going to enforce federal rules against our laws.
	And then they said, if it's something that is legal here, and the feds say it's illegal, you're not going to do anything about it.
	And then they specifically made the pistol braces legal.
	And today, in many states, as of today, June 1st, I believe, was when it went in, You have a lot of people in a lot of states are in real jeopardy from this new ATF rule.
	But not in Tennessee.
	They saw it coming and they did something about it at the state level.
	And that's how we need to focus on it.
	We need to be more focused on that than we are on the presidential election.
	And as I say that, that's going to be the next subject that I talk about.
	And I talk about it Not because I don't like Trump, because I don't like Trump.
	I don't have a favorite candidate there.
	But I talk about it because I want people to get out of that mindset.
	You know, the thing that offends me most about the MAGA mindset is their obsession with the presidency, their obsession with solutions in Washington, and their obsession with the obvious failure of Of Trump thinking that he's going to fix everything in a second term that he didn't do in the first term.
	Let me tell you, every president is better in the first term than they are in the second term.
	In the second term, they really sell you out because they know they don't have to worry about re-election.
	That's when they get really bad.
	You know, you see this all the time.
	Conservatives get elected, they go to Washington, and then they start to go native, right?
	You see it with Supreme Court justices.
	They get appointed, and at first, you know, they've got some good constitutional liberty decisions and everything.
	All of a sudden now, they're voting with the left.
	And that always happens with presidents in their second term.
	Anyway, the great student loan non-payment boondoggle is now going to be over with us.
	This is one good thing that comes out of this, perhaps.
	It's from Reason Magazine.
	The agreement between Biden and McCarthy would prohibit the Biden administration from extending the pause on student loan repayments.
	That have been in place since Trump's executive order, March 2020, even if it does not block the administration's student loan forgiveness plan, which would wipe out up to $20,000 in federal loans per borrower and is currently being weighed by the Supreme Court.
	The plan was announced last year, but it's not yet been implemented.
	Late last year, Biden extended the payment pause, which postpones roughly $5 billion per month We're good to go.
	But remains silent on the student loan forgiveness plan, which will, however, likely be nixed by the Supreme Court.
	And so the interesting thing about this is also financial concerns, as Reason points out.
	You've got a lot of people, consumers who took advantage of this program, have now had 39 months' worth of deferred payments.
	And they've kind of gotten used to this.
	Thinking that it's going to continue to go on.
	Now when they have to start making these payments again, they said people in this age group are typically going to be spending money more on services and entertainment.
	And so it's going to be, that's going to be part of the economy that's going to be hit pretty hard.
	And they said it will be a pretty hard hit.
	They said the average student loan payment is just under $400 a month.
	And so, for 39 months worth of payments, they've had an additional, on average, over $15,000 in additional discretionary income during that period.
	Now that's going to disappear.
	And again, the kind of discretionary income they're going to cut back on is typically going to be not on the consumption of goods, but on the consumption of services.
	We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to talk about the election.
	We'll be right back. Let me tell you, The David Knight Show, you can listen to with your ears.
	You can even watch it by using your eyes.
	In fact, if you can hear me, that means you're listening to The David Knight Show right now.
	Yeah. Good job.
	And you want to know something else?
	You can find all the links to everywhere to watch or listen to the show at thedavidknightshow.com.
	That's a website.
	Well, Axios refers to the Trump attacks and the back and forth between DeSantis and Trump as vicious.
	I would say that is... Pretty accurate.
	When you look at what he did with Kayleigh McEnany, his former press secretary, she was on Fox News, and she falsely reported, just made an honest mistake.
	People make a mistake. He could have corrected it, but it was something that greatly offended his ego.
	She said that he was up 25 points on Ron DeSantis, and he angrily retweets back, He says, I'm up 34 points on desanctimonious, not 25 up.
	And they called her Milk Toast McEnany.
	The rhinos and the globalists can have her.
	Fox News should only use real stars.
	Republicans in name only, he said.
	Can anybody in his campaign get control of him?
	That's the...
	Candace Owens...
	Said, anybody that's telling Trump that attacking Kayleigh is a good or justifiable idea simply does not have his best interest at heart.
	You don't punch down, number one.
	Number two, you don't bully nice people.
	Number three, you don't punch down and bully the people that you had as your employees representing you in the past.
	Oh, she's lightweight.
	She's milquetoast. She's not a real person.
	She doesn't have any real...
	Why did you have her there?
	It's kind of a bad reflection on him, but of course, that's his character.
	And, you know, she said it's sloppy, and any worthy strategist would tell him as much.
	Well, you know what? The people who work for him, who take his money in the campaign, are a bit as afraid of him as the people in the MAGA media.
	You know, people like Alex, people like Breitbart, and all the rest of them.
	They're all very concerned about offending this deeply wounded narcissist who is incapable of acting except out of his own perceived self-interest or revenge.
	And as one of his former lawyers said, Ty Cobb, boy, if that isn't true.
	And just as everybody, the MAGA media kept telling them, please, you're making us look bad, you know, as much as anything.
	Stop cheering the vaccine.
	After you got out of office, right?
	The MAGA media was free to say that the vaccines were bad.
	But they don't want to connect it to Trump.
	But Trump was hell-bent on connecting the vaccines to himself.
	Over and over. I'm the father of the vaccine.
	I saved millions of lives and all the rest of this stuff.
	I did it so fast we skipped all the testing and all the rest of this stuff.
	It's like, tell him to be quiet.
	Is there anybody who can stand up to him and tell him to be quiet?
	Well, evidently, he eventually got that message.
	After a very, very long time, and you had people like Alex say, well, I can't support him anymore.
	Well, now I support him.
	I can't support him. Now I support him again.
	So eventually, he stopped with that as he started running for president.
	Maybe it even got through to his ego that it wasn't a good idea for him when his own crowd would boo him on that issue.
	But the problem is that these people around him are afraid.
	Because he's a petty tyrant.
	He ran this country in 2020 into the ground like any authoritarian dictator would do to a banana republic.
	And that's the way he operates.
	He operates just as any tin-pot dictator you've ever seen.
	You know, Idi Amin.
	You know, the North Korean little dictator.
	These people, you know. Oh, he criticized me?
	Kill him. Kill him. That's what he aspires to.
	That is his character. And it is also concerning to see this in the MAGA cult.
	Jenna Ellis, who worked for him as a campaign lawyer, she got caught up in all of this election nonsense after the thing.
	And it was nonsense.
	It was just a fundraiser for him.
	Nothing was really being done.
	And if you want to do something about it, we'll talk a little bit about what could be done.
	But of course, they just want to use this...
	To portray themselves as victims, to create anger and support, but it's also creating a civil war.
	Literally. So, former campaign Trump lawyer has accused Trump supporters of harassing her for expressing support for both DeSantis and the former president.
	Oh, well, you can't do that.
	You can't do that.
	Anybody who is on Twitter knows that if you put something up that says something good about something that DeSantis said, You're going to be called DeSantis bot or worse, right?
	Surrogates from both campaigns got into an ugly back and forth over Memorial Day weekend about DeSantis and other Trump enemies' service in the military.
	Well, the only military experience that Donald Trump had was a quote-unquote military school.
	What is he even talking about with this stuff?
	Yeah, DeSantis was deployed.
	He also went to Gitmo and I had a We recorded an interview with John Kiriakou that will play for you tomorrow.
	Really interesting interview.
	I mean, John Kiriakou has been involved very deeply in so many things.
	We talked about 9-11, his views of 9-11, and we have to disagree about that.
	That concerns me. But he was, you know, when we talk about what has been said about Ron DeSantis at Gitmo, that is a concerning thing about his character.
	And he had an interesting comment about that.
	I'll leave it for the interview to happen tomorrow.
	But now, as part of this war, you now have the Babylon Bee being drawn up in this war.
	Yeah. Kayleigh McEnany and the Babylon Bee.
	Now the enemies of Trump and his cult.
	It's amazing. Laura Loomer, back in February, said, look at this.
	The Babylon Bee got a $21,000 payment from a DeSantis pack.
	And they responded and said, you know, it's for jokes and speechwriting stuff.
	Right? We did that as a consultancy thing.
	They said, you could consider us as speech-writing consultants, said Dylan.
	We help find him funny angles on Democrats.
	We don't attack Trump for him.
	That's silly. That's false.
	Well, that's Laura Loomer.
	They have never suggested that we write anything about Trump.
	Trump can't take a joke, again, because he's like a Banana Republic dictator.
	And like that other Republican candidate said, it's not fair to criticize Banana Republics.
	They've got a lot of really nice managers who work for them.
	Sometimes Republicans can't take a joke.
	Sometimes they are the joke.
	Tim Scott, Mr.
	Nice Guy, has come out and joined many other Republican presidential candidates to oppose this debt ceiling bill.
	Trump has not said anything, though.
	Isn't that interesting? Trump spends his time attacking Kayleigh McEnany, the Babylon Bee, Ron DeSanctimonious, because he has the audacity to try to protect children and parental rights against the LGBT groomers.
	He's sanctimonious, right?
	Because you've got to understand where Trump is coming from.
	That's why I played those clips yesterday.
	He's been operating in that Epstein world for a very long time.
	And so he certainly looks at this stuff as sanctimonious.
	You know, I could get some LGBT votes if I attack him on that.
	But he stays silent on the debt ceiling for two reasons.
	Number one, he doesn't care about any policies.
	This is all about him.
	He doesn't care whether the U.S. goes bankrupt or not.
	He was the one who set us on that trajectory, and that's the second reason why he doesn't talk about it.
	He has absolutely no credibility.
	To talk about reducing spending when he set us on this new trajectory of bankruptcy that has been continued by Biden.
	Let's be fair. Biden is not against it either, of course.
	But you've had Ramaswamy, Haley, Nikki Haley, Pence, DeSantis, all coming out publicly opposing this because it continues to spend money.
	But not Trump. He's going to focus on attacking his former press secretary because she misreported the poll numbers.
	I'm ahead by 34 points, not 25 points in that poll.
	You know, he could have quietly corrected that, but he called her a disgrace, called her a milquetoast.
	No, actually, he is a disgrace in all of this.
	It's really kind of a form of projection, isn't it?
	So... The key thing about Donald Trump, the key news, which has been much quieter than all of his yelling and screaming at his enemies, real or perceived.
	The interesting thing about this is that they now have a tape of him talking about classified documents that he kept after leaving the White House.
	Now, I have to say that I don't think that this is an important thing.
	I don't think any of this document paper stuff is an important thing.
	And I think it is and will rightfully be perceived as politicized persecution.
	One rule for you and a different one for me, right?
	That's the way this is going to be perceived, and I think that's an accurate perception.
	The problem and the thing that keeps repelling Trump, and I think it's intentional on the part of the Democrats, is It's to keep coming up with one false charge, one exaggerated charge after the other, and to do it in a way that is obviously hypocritical, where they give themselves a pass for keeping papers in their, you know, Biden gives himself a pass for keeping papers from vice presidency and all the rest of the stuff, keeping them in the garage with the garage unlocked and all the rest of this stuff.
	So that's going to be the issue.
	But they're going to continue with this.
	And now they've got an audio recording made in the summer of 2021.
	Trump acknowledging that he held on to classified Pentagon documents about a potential attack on Iran.
	Multiple sources told CNN. So if they've got these recordings, they're definitely going to proceed further with this with their special counsel, Jack Smith, and all the rest of this stuff.
	And that is going to continue to push us further and further into a civil war.
	And, you know, I hate to see this happening.
	But this is, it is exposing just how corrupt the federal government is.
	And it is going to continue to divide the country.
	Well, we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to take a look at some news.
	We have Tony who's going to be joining us today.
	And we also have an interesting guest coming up in the third hour.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	you you you Well, welcome back. I've got a couple of comments on here.
	Rumble, Duke, thank you very much.
	He said I rock.
	Well, thank you. And username, 2014.
	David, your show and the people with you are an incredible bunch.
	Well, thank you. I think so.
	That's my family, too.
	Each of you are amazing.
	Do a wonderful job. We appreciate you all.
	Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that.
	And I just want to tell everybody I appreciate all the support that we got.
	We totaled everything up last night, all the stuff that came in at the last minute over the weekend.
	And we're up to 85%.
	So that's good. We're not in Bud Light territory.
	It's starting to worry me.
	It's like, okay, so is my Trump opposition?
	Is that putting me in the Bud Light category here?
	But we're not in that category.
	So I appreciate that.
	Thank you very much. And yesterday we had somebody leave a comment, a tip, and said something about Wise Wolf.
	And it confused me because I thought, I don't recognize that name, but a lot of times people use a different name on Rumble or Rockfin than they will in emails.
	And I knew that for several months we'd had a listener who had, his name is Austin.
	I'll just give you his first name.
	And he's been a listener for a long time.
	We've had back and forth conversations about what he went through during the lockdown.
	Horrific experience that he had during the lockdown.
	And he got back to me yesterday.
	He said, you mentioned today you didn't know who had set up the subscription for you on Wise Wolf.
	He said, I set that up a couple months ago.
	I understand.
	I would just, you know, I thought, is this the same person that is there?
	But anyway, he said, I know you said yesterday you didn't want people to consider giving you their tithe to you, and it was more important to give to their local church to be able to maintain their local community.
	He said, well, some of us...
	Our homeless truck drivers, and this is the closest thing to a local community that we get at the moment, I split my tie between you and the man who helped return me to God, and the only church whose drug and alcohol rehab that would give me a place to stay when I was truly homeless, when all other shelters required vaccination.
	Well, I am really honored to be compared to that man who runs that.
	So, thank you very much.
	But he said, yeah, we got a lot of horrible news, and we need to have the good news of the gospel.
	And I gotta say, that's the only thing that got me through that really bad year of 2020.
	And it's the only thing that got him through it as well.
	He says, I understand that you don't want to be perceived as a I'm a televangelist or somebody like Michael Flynn, and that's the key thing.
	I don't want to ever be seen as using Jesus in order to increase my popularity or my credentials with people, and I see a lot of people doing that in the MAGA media now, and it disgusts me.
	They use Jesus just like they use Trump, and as I said yesterday, I know these people and I know that when the cameras are off, they despise both Trump and Jesus.
	I know that's where they are and it makes me sick to see that happening out there.
	I talk about this because I just give you my honest opinion whether you agree with me or not about things, and that is just, you know, it is what affects the way that I see the world.
	And whether you agree with it or not, that's just my honest opinion.
	One of the things he said, he said, during COVID I refused to wear a mask and so I was fired.
	That's how he became homeless.
	So I got kicked out of my father's house, became homeless, traveling first on motorcycle, camping around the country.
	Then I flew down to Columbia with very little money.
	I had planned on partying my little money away and then giving up on life.
	I did the first part, but haven't done the second part.
	Because of Christ.
	Like I say, 2020 was a really dark time for me too.
	It seemed like there was nothing that I could say that I could get across to people while it was happening.
	And I'm just watching this.
	Well, the front row seat.
	I knew what was happening back in December when they started doing this and they first start with the lockdowns and stuff you see in China.
	It's like, that's exactly what these guys have been rehearsing for 20 years and all the rest of this stuff.
	And the over-the-top response to it, the fact that nothing but what I say is going to be allowed, it was just, I could not get that.
	Because I was being opposed, you know, there at Infowars by Alex, by Mike Adams.
	You know, they're contradicting everything I would say.
	They would hide what I had to say.
	Just amazing. And it's like I'm just watching the world melt down.
	And I felt like I couldn't get across to anybody.
	I know that all of you felt the same way as well.
	They were all isolated and the world has gone mad.
	Now we start to realize as things have gone on that, you know, there were a lot of us who saw this happening.
	And a lot of doctors who have now given up on their career or they've retired and they're blowing the whistle on what had happened.
	And so we're not alone anymore, but we've got to continue on this because they're going to try to do it again.
	But anyway, thank you, Austin.
	I appreciate that. He says, the tagline, he says, remember, you can't stop freedom when it's in nugget form.
	That's true. It's the gold standard of...
	Gold is the gold standard of liberty.
	Because it ultimately does come down to that for control.
	And I want to thank Benjamin, who also sent something on Zelt last minute.
	You know, we have a problem with Cash App.
	And I had somebody contact me yesterday.
	We've not been able to get an answer from anybody yet on this.
	We're going to just have to persist on this thing.
	Camp out on the phone over the weekend to try to get an answer as to why people can't find us on Cash App.
	I've had people send us screenshots, said, this is what I typed in, this is what it says, and they had it right.
	So I don't understand why that's not showing up.
	But he supported us on Zelle.
	He left a note. Typically people don't, and I don't have any way to respond to people on Zelle.
	But he said, here's some Trump juice for the much-needed DK machine.
	So I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
	Let's talk about something that I think is very serious.
	I've mentioned this for a long time.
	It gets virtually no press coverage whatsoever.
	Alam Bokhari at Breitbart is really good.
	He's on the forefront of what is happening.
	A lot of what's happening at Breitbart is just Trump cheerleading, GOP cheerleading, but he does really get the bigger picture.
	It was Alam Bakari who first showed me what was going on with the 1986 Marsh v.
	Alabama Supreme Court case about, you know, you can't, even if the private square is publicly owned, you can't shut down free speech on it.
	And I think that's a, he's the only person I've seen talk about that.
	I've talked about that, you know, if you listen to this program, over and over and over and over again.
	It is, you know, Jack Dorsey at Twitter.
	He used to say, and he said it like eight times under oath and congressional testimony, that Twitter was the digital public square.
	So it's pretty clear.
	So he's always been at the forefront of this, and he's got an article about a new move to move us towards this Coalition for Content, Provenance, and Authentication.
	The CCPA. I call it the Chinese Communist Party of America approach to speech.
	They don't want you to see it as CCPA. So they put it in as C2PA, the number two.
	And it is a coalition.
	That is a coalition. It's been put together by Microsoft.
	And it is...
	A coalition of tech companies, hardware and software, and the mainstream media.
	And so they got the BBC and they got the New York Times and other places like that.
	They're going to identify the people who they disagree with.
	The people who are the new enemies of the state.
	Those of us who question their narrative or debunk their narrative.
	So they'll be identified by the BBC and the New York Times.
	And then you'll have software companies like Adobe, one of the key partners in the CCPA or the C2PA. They will put into their software content creation to mark you as the creator.
	So they want to know who is creating this stuff.
	So if you create a text document because you do an article or something, or if you create a meme, or if you have a picture, or if you create a video, they will stamp that with your ID. So they've got to have a digital ID for everybody and everything.
	And this is a way of tying your speech to you.
	Because the first thing they have to do, you know, we know that the CBDC is going to be about stopping preemptively our actions.
	And the CCPA is about preemptively stopping our speech.
	It's like the CBDC that says you can't buy any more meat this month.
	You've used too much gasoline.
	You can't have any more of that.
	So this is saying, we don't like your speech.
	We've marked you as an enemy of the state.
	And we're not even going to allow you to upload this.
	And it even goes beyond the software.
	It goes down to the CPU. We'll be doing this as well.
	So if you think you're going to go out and get some different software that's not Adobe, well, they're going to do it with the CPU there as well.
	And so you have Intel, you have the ARM family processors in the company, they've all signed on to that as well.
	And now you've got camera companies that are signing on to it.
	You see how this is metastasizing?
	Nikon and Leica.
	You know, Travis likes Leica.
	I like Nikon. My favorite cameras, but he's got a really nice...
	He found an old, old Leica they found used, and it does take really nice pictures.
	Anyway, they are joining in with this.
	And the headline is, Ministry of Truth, Nikon and Leica are adding Adobe New York Times misinformation tech to cameras.
	A tool developed to spot misinformation, quote-unquote, by software development company Adobe, in collaboration with the New York Times and Twitter, is being added to new Nikon and Leica digital cameras by default.
	You see, they have a couple of different programs.
	So this is the Content Authenticity Initiative.
	But it's also the same players that you have for the CCPA or the C2PA. This is, again, New York Times, Adobe, in collaboration with Twitter, announced a partnership with Nikon and Leica to bring image-marking technology to new cameras, the Nikon Z9 and the Leica M11 cameras.
	And so the way that they're going to sell this It's to say, well, you know, artificial intelligence gives people so much power to fake stuff.
	And that is a big problem.
	So they create the problem with artificial intelligence to fake everything.
	And then they use that to put chains on our hands and gags in our mouths.
	You see? Because that's how it's ultimately going to be used.
	They'll sell it to say, we've got to be able to stamp this thing so people know this is a real picture.
	How are we going to deal with all the ability to fake stuff?
	Well, we've got to have a way to sign it and seal it.
	But that is also going to be used because the same people have this other thing that is there to censor your speech.
	It's a real bait and switch.
	It's amazing. Securing provenance information at the point of capture, including location, time, and how the image was taken.
	The CAI, the Content Authenticity Initiative, joined forces with Project Origin, a similar effort started by Microsoft and the BBC that is also focused on tracing the history of digital images in order to create the Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity.
	Provenance means who owns it, is this authentic, has it been changed, that type of thing.
	This has so many different opportunities for censorship.
	You could use this, for example, to extend digital copyright and things like that to absurd extremes because copyright has been one of the earliest ways that they would use to censor people.
	First thing that I had censored, first thing that Infowars had censored was in 2013, and that was my video about the Federal Reserve.
	And they used a bogus copyright claim on it.
	I took a few clips from the full movie, It's a Wonderful Life, and the full movie was up and had been up for something like eight years and had nearly a million views on it.
	I took a couple of snippets there, added it to a lot of my content, did commentary over it.
	That's fair use. It was a small part of the actual content in terms of time.
	But it was a key analogy, and they didn't like that.
	And to add insult to injury, the copyright for It's a Wonderful Life expired a long time ago, and they played all kinds of legal and political tricks to reestablish it in the first place.
	They didn't even have a legitimate copyright on that.
	But YouTube didn't pay any attention to that copyright in the U.S., except for when you compared it to the Federal Reserve.
	C2PA, or as I like to call it the CCPA, describes itself as, quote, an open technical standard, providing publishers, creators, and consumers the ability to trace the origin of different types of media.
	Yeah, the origin. The origin.
	And the content.
	Whether or not they agree with it.
	That's why they've got the BBC and the New York Times and people like that.
	With a goal of addressing the prevalence of misleading information online through the development of technical standards for certifying the source and the history or the provenance of media content.
	In other words, they tell you right up front this is about censorship.
	Because we know that's what misinformation is.
	It's just what they call censorship.
	Information that you may have missed.
	Information they don't want you to hear.
	Information that they want to censor.
	The term does, in theory, have an objective meaning.
	But in the era of AI deepfake images that are indistinguishable from the real thing, it may shake off some of its ideological baggage.
	The involvement of the partisan New York Times in the Adobe Project will likely undermine any attempt to present this effort as politically neutral.
	But again, it's just another downside of AI. And the way you need to understand this is that this is like pre-crime.
	Speech that...
	Questions or challenges the government's official story, whether you're talking about 9-11 or you're talking about the vaccines and the pandemic or the climate or anything.
	If you disagree with the government, you're censored.
	It's declared to be misinformation, disinformation.
	And this is their mechanism for stopping it before it gets even on the Internet.
	So this is, once speech becomes a crime, this is the pre-crime method to shut down that criminal free speech.
	It is pre-speech censorship.
	That's what Microsoft and Adobe and Intel and the New York Times and the BBC and the federal government that is behind all of that.
	That's what they're doing.
	Well, some people pay the price for free speech in the U.S. And pull up this picture, Travis.
	Two pro-life advocates beaten outside Planned Parenthood in Baltimore.
	It's truly horrific when you see the picture of this man's face.
	Look at that. The attack happened just before 10.30 at a clinic.
	And they had these two men.
	One of them was 73 years old.
	The other one was 80 years old.
	And the pro-life outlet...
	Obtained photographs of what appear to be facial injuries.
	That is, LifeSite News had these photographs.
	This is a Breitbart story, but LifeSite News had the story originally.
	So, one of the men was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.
	I'm not sure if that's the man who was hospitalized or if it was the other one.
	Because I think it was the other one.
	I think the guy that's hospitalized is in much worse shape.
	Detailing the extent of the injuries, one individual was taken to the hospital.
	I had his upper right cheekbone completely fractured.
	He is bleeding from some unidentified area behind his eye.
	The bone eye orbit is completely shattered and will have to be replaced with metal, according to the doctors there.
	This is in Baltimore, by the way.
	Baltimore County. I think that's Baltimore.
	Yeah, it is Maryland. Yeah.
	So they started to GoFundMe.
	For his medical expenses, he was brutally beaten praying in front of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Baltimore City.
	For years, he has prayed in front of the Planned Parenthood clinic in Baltimore City to let the scared, young, abortion-minded women know that they are loved, that their baby is loved.
	He has put up a GoFundMe goal of $10,000.
	He has now received $13,000 in donations.
	He alleged in the email that the assailant asked a nearby Planned Parenthood escort to hold his drink before lunging at him.
	So, you know, we don't know yet who this guy is.
	They've got video of him.
	There is, you know, he's there with a Planned Parenthood guy.
	He says, basically, hold my beer.
	And he starts beating on these guys.
	Mark, who was in the street, tried to go to Dick's aid and was hit in the face, knocking him on the ground.
	And then the man started kicking him in the head.
	The guy who tried to stop the initial attack on his friend was the one who got hurt the most.
	It was then that a client from a nearby pro-life pregnancy center screamed, prompting a nurse from that facility to come to the aid of the men.
	Baltimore City Police said investigators obtained video footage of the incident.
	The man was a white man with brown hair, full beard, and they described what he was wearing.
	The suspect was allegedly seen having a visibly aggressive conversation with one of the pro-lifers before he became physical.
	The suspect is then observed to, about to turn away, but then rushes at Crosby and tackles him over a large flower pot.
	Schaefer reportedly tried to help.
	Crosby was shoved to the ground and cut his hand.
	Officers said the suspect then continued to punch and kick Crosby while he was on the ground.
	That's why he got such severe injuries.
	So I guess Karen and my daughter got off light when they just spit on him at the Planned Parenthood clinic in Austin.
	Just amazing what these people have.
	The hatred. The true hatred that they showed.
	Not Even as Karen got the video of them, you know, the hatred.
	I kill my kids, she said into the camera.
	I mean, it's just, they hate their own kids.
	Of course they're going to hate you.
	It truly is satanic, what you see in these people.
	You know, Governor Lee is holding a special session in August, and many people are concerned about what's going to happen with this.
	As Senator Nicely said when I talked to him, he said, you know, these left-wing activists can come from all over the country to this particular thing because the other legislatures are shut down in August.
	They got nothing to do.
	People are concerned about what's going to be happening, and they should be because you've got a Seattle far-left A guy who calls himself a reverend is training students in Tennessee at Vanderbilt University in Nashville to protest over gun control.
	This guy's last name is Seacal.
	He came to Nashville to work with the Doors Worker Solidarity Network.
	Back in April. And of course, these so-called legislators who don't want to file a bill, they want to take over the House and scream with a bullhorn.
	They have been trained by him.
	And so it's going to be kind of interesting to see what happens as the Republican governor virtue signals, Governor Lee here in Tennessee, virtue signals to the left and to the country and western celebrities in Nashville saying, I'm going to do something about gun control.
	It'll be interesting to see what happens.
	His trainee, Justin Jones, was a ringleader at the Tennessee Capitol in the days following the Covenant school shooting.
	Jones incited a massive group of students to attempt to push their way into the Tennessee House.
	It was an insurrection.
	It was everything that the Democrats claimed that January the 6th was and was not.
	This was actually got their hands on legislators pushing them and so forth.
	And again, the state police, fortunately in Tennessee, Did not put on a bunch of gladiator armor and start beating people or it would have really been a bad situation for everybody involved.
	Instead, you know, they used themselves to shield the legislators who were being pushed.
	And then the floor was taken over.
	But those people were celebrated by Joe Biden.
	They were celebrated.
	Brought to the White House.
	Jones and his left-wing colleague, Justin Pearson, Later expelled, but then subsequently reinstated by their left-wing constituents in Nashville and Memphis.
	I had mentioned just briefly in passing yesterday the two-year-old who was sentenced to life in prison after his family was found with a Bible.
	Found with a Bible and sentenced to life in prison.
	And they didn't, you know, everybody says toddler, send life in prison.
	His entire family. That's how that worked.
	His Mother, father, the toddler, brothers and sisters, all of them.
	You'll never get out of this prison, simply because they had a Bible with them.
	North Korea has long been known to be the most repressive place in the world for Christians.
	Always at the top of the list of the organizations that look at it.
	Worse than Saudi Arabia. Worse than Iran.
	There's no place that is worse.
	Because communism is its own religion and the most violent of all political and religious systems.
	The most intolerant of them all.
	And it's taking over our universities.
	And it's training the people who are running our institutions.
	And so this is coming to us.
	You have to understand that.
	People facing intense persecution simply for having a Bible.
	The U.S. State Department's 2022 report I think is why This is now surfacing.
	One story in particular, I think, out of that report.
	A two-year-old being sentenced to prison camp for life stands out for its unique brand of ghastliness.
	One case involved the 2009 arrest.
	They've been there for a while. Fourteen years already.
	So this two-year-old is now 16.
	The rest of the entire family, based on their religious practices and their possession of a Bible, the entire family, including the two-year-old, given life sentences in political prison camps, estimated that between 50,000 and 70,000 Christians are imprisoned in North Korea due to their Christian faith, with non-profit persecution tracking site called Watchdog is Open Doors, talking about that.
	You know, we talked about the organ harvesting and the China prisons and everything.
	It is interesting to me how the mainstream media, and this is not a mainstream media report, it's interesting to me how the mainstream media completely ignores all Christian persecution, even in China.
	They'll talk about the Uyghurs and what happens to them, the Muslims, and they should.
	They should. And they'll talk about what happens to the Falun Gong.
	The Falun Gong has a very large media outlet, Epoch Times is associated with them.
	And the guest that I had on who was talking about it, he's part of Falun Gong, and so he was talking about it from his perspective.
	But, you know, we all know that it's happening to the Christians as well.
	He admitted that as well. And that's understandable.
	I mean, you know, since he's Falun Gong, he's going to be focused primarily on what is happening with the Falun Gong people, just as I would be primarily focused on the Christians.
	What I think is strange is how the mainstream media completely ignores it for the Christians.
	They said North Korean officials view Christians as the most dangerous political class of people.
	They're right. You're right about that.
	We are your worst enemy.
	We're not going to come after you with guns.
	We're going to come after you with the power of the Holy Spirit.
	Christians are not the only people oppressed in North Korea.
	They come after other religions as well.
	They got one person who was a shamanist, shamanism, I don't even know what that is, beaten in horrific conditions in the camp.
	He didn't get a life sentence, but he was practicing shamanism, and so they put him in the camp.
	He said people routinely beaten, verbally abused, Not fed appropriate meals.
	I guess the Chinese can afford to feed people and keep them alive to harvest their organs.
	Anyway, North Korea, their entire society is taken down.
	I've said many times, if you want to look at political systems, you want to know if this Marxist system that's being pushed And the schools and all of our universities.
	Oh, we hate capitalism.
	We've got to institute markets.
	We've got to tear this society down.
	Well, you want to know what that looks like? I've said over and over again.
	Look at what happened with North and South Korea.
	Look at what happened with East and West Germany.
	You take the same people with the same skills, the same attitude to life, and you cut these two countries in half.
	One of them divided east-west, the other divided north and south.
	And you run them under not even a fully free capital system, but just quasi-capitalist system in some cases.
	And you put them under an authoritarian communist regime.
	And look at what happened to those two places.
	I mean, when you see a satellite picture of North Korea, it's just filled with lights.
	And North Korea is completely dark at night.
	They have nothing. Just abject poverty.
	And it's because of that system.
	And that is why the globalists have chosen that system to impose upon us.
	It is the worst possible political system, the worst economic theories, the worst political organization that has ever been developed.
	And they want to merge it with the most advanced technology that mankind has ever had.
	Officials worked as hard without feeding us properly.
	I suffered from malnutrition and I was sure that I would not survive, said the shamanistic shaman or whatever.
	I don't know. Maybe they put him in jail because he had the buffalo hat.
	Anyway, that's a different guy, I guess.
	But anyway, they starved him.
	He said he got down to only 77 pounds.
	He said, today I'm 132 pounds.
	I mean, even 132 pounds.
	This is really lightweight.
	He said, I was a skeleton back then.
	He said, I kept having diarrhea even when I only drank water.
	Open Doors ranks the nation as the absolute worst place in the world for Christians with the organization labeling the regime, quote, brutally hostile toward believers.
	Day-to-day worship isn't permitted, forcing Christians into underground churches.
	That's how you build strong churches.
	No ice cream socials in North Korea.
	You're not going to have people showing up for the ice cream.
	There's nothing wrong with ice cream socials.
	But it's the equivalent, that or the programs or whatever.
	That's the equivalent to the loaves and fishes of Jesus' time.
	They're not coming for the stuff.
	They're coming because they're hardcore believers.
	And I said, you know, we are the worst enemy of the communists.
	We really are. Of all the religions, because our religion was the one that was the foundation for the concepts of liberty that you see in America.
	Because of our understanding of the nature of man, of the nature of government, and God's role in society, that's why we have the kind of liberty that we used to have in America that is rapidly disappearing.
	It was founded on those Christian principles.
	They go back to the Protestant Reformation.
	And that's why we don't stop.
	That's why we're not afraid of these masks and lockdowns.
	Open Door said, capture or death is only a mistake away for all these people.
	Well, we as Christians understand that we're all one breath away from death.
	And we don't fear that. That was one of the things that concerned me so much about the lockdown in 2020.
	Before we take a break, I just want to cover this last thing here.
	A Stanford medical professor It says, aliens 100% live among us.
	And this is the kind of stuff you see all the time.
	Typically on...
	And I just talked about how I really love Alam Bakari's work.
	This is his article. But, you know, and I disagree with this article completely.
	I mean... First of all, I don't care if he is a medical.
	Has he done an examination of the aliens to tell us?
	What is the fact that he works at Stanford and he's a medical professor?
	What does that tell us anything about?
	This is an argument from his titles or where he works or his educational background or something like that?
	Well, as someone who's watched a lot of the X-Files, I don't agree with him.
	See, that makes you an expert right there.
	See? You watched a lot of the X-Files.
	I didn't know you had watched a lot, because I have not.
	I don't think I've ever seen a single one.
	I'm very familiar with the premises of it and everything.
	I don't think I've ever seen a single one.
	Dr. Gary Nolan, a professor at Stanford University's Medical School, who worked with the CIA. Was he part of Project Blue Beam, or what was he?
	I don't... I mean, this is the...
	So, he is...
	And then we've got a NASA... You know, report or meeting or conference or committee or something like that yesterday.
	I saw the news about it and I didn't even get into the details of it.
	Are you really going to believe the people who gave you that moonshot stuff?
	Which I'm going to say, I'm not buying that anymore anyway.
	Yeah, the CIA, the people who gave us peak oil.
	The people who told us about the domino theory in Vietnam, all the rest, go on and on.
	The people who pushed the JFK thing.
	People probably, by the way, that's one of the things with the John Kiriakou interview.
	Something very interesting about the JFK assassination that was told to him by RFK Jr.
	So, you know, it's an interesting interview.
	I was really surprised at one thing that he said.
	I didn't I didn't think John had bought into the whole CIA thing that deeply, but he was.
	And he wrote a book about how to know if you're being surveilled and how to try to keep that from happening, but how to detect it.
	And in talking about that, he recounts the situation that happened in a foreign country.
	And I understand that it was...
	In kind of a situation where he's in kind of a wartime situation.
	But I was really kind of surprised as to what his plan of action was going to be to this person.
	I'll just leave it at that.
	I'll play that for you tomorrow.
	Anyway, the New York Post said the mediator asked Nolan if he believes extraterrestrial life has visited Earth.
	And he says, I can go a step further.
	It hasn't just visited, it's been here a long time, and it's still here.
	I can go a step further than that.
	I can say that extraterrestrial intelligence created this Earth.
	And of course, Crick and Watson would agree with me.
	You know, when they discovered DNA, they said, oh, well, you know, here's this common code of life.
	Very complicated.
	With error correcting and all the rest of the stuff.
	And everything has that in common.
	Every animal, as well as all plants.
	Looks like there was a creator.
	But it had to be aliens.
	And we see the same thing coming out now with Richard Dawkins.
	He's debating, saw a great debate that he had with a mathematics professor from Oxford.
	Who said he became a Christian because of being a mathematics professor.
	And of course, Isaac Newton, Maxwell, who did Maxwell's equations, connecting electricity to magnetism.
	Many, many scientists.
	Francis Bacon, who developed the scientific method, have been Christians.
	Pascal, and many of them.
	Anyway... He was debating Richard Dawkins, and Richard Dawkins was saying, well, we know that it's aliens.
	It's like, how do you know there's aliens?
	You don't even have anything that, you don't even have a written document from an alien saying, I created you, right?
	Like you do with the Bible.
	If you had such a document, You could start to examine it from a logical standpoint.
	See, how does this jive with what we see?
	If you had a document like that from aliens that said, I created this entire universe.
	And here's what I'm going to do in the future.
	And you could go back and you say, did that happen?
	Well, yeah, it did. There's a lot of prophecies in the Bible that were fulfilled.
	So, you know, but they don't even have a document.
	Why would he jump to that kind of an illogical conclusion in it?
	He says, you know, people talk about the wow signal, looking for extraterrestrial intelligence.
	The wow signal is that people see it on an almost regular basis.
	The communication that is already there.
	And he's talking about a burst of radio waves.
	Well, that's nothing, right?
	That is supposedly periodic and they had quasar first time they saw that turned out that they later identified that as a rotating object in space that was polarized and so it was generating electromagnetic pulses on a regular basis when they saw the rate and spinning you know and generating that but when they saw that on a regular basis they said oh well that's intelligence That's why when you go to all this trouble with the Search for Extraterrestrial
	Intelligence, SETI, you go to all that trouble listening and watching, hoping that you're going to see some kind of a regular repeating thing that can't be explained by ordinary phenomenon, then you ignore the complicated signal that is in your body, the DNA, and everything else that is there that we're starting to find out.
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	We'll take a real quick break and we'll be right back.
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	I had one person who did not like what I had to say a couple of days ago.
	When we had a comment, somebody said the fact that, well, are we going to see some false flags here?
	We had 60,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate that disappeared.
	And I said, you know, when I talked about that, I said, yeah, you know, they said that they loaded up this U-Haul or whatever it was, Ryder truck, was it, I think?
	Or Penske, I don't remember what the brand of the truck was, the Oklahoma City bombing.
	But if you look at the blast pattern, a retired general whose specialty was demolition, I did a very long article about it.
	I remember that it was covered by the New American at the time.
	And he said, that was not a point blast, if you look at it.
	It took out all across the front of the building.
	And so he said there'd have to be multiple places that were there.
	But they just made it about that particular thing.
	60,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate, that's a lot of explosive.
	And so then kind of off the hand, I had seen this article.
	I hadn't really planned on talking about the airbag thing.
	And I mentioned that I was surprised to see that ammonium nitrate is in airbags.
	And so I had a guy, a listener, his name is Chuck.
	And he says at the bottom, he says, I've been involved in auto safety since a college student in 1977.
	About to retire soon.
	Started in Detroit, but I've been in Germany and the UK for the last 34 years.
	And he said, I'm very troubled by your out-of-date level of information on auto safety.
	He said, you said on today's show, that was the 30th, two days ago, that airbag inflators are comprised of ammonium nitrate.
	No, that is absurd, he said.
	Solid propellant inflators for the driver side use typically smokeless gunpowder, the stuff they use for the military.
	Passenger inflators have been maybe solid or gas, mostly argon, and a small solid propellant heating element.
	Side curtain airbags are typically stored helium.
	When airbags were first introduced in the early 90s, the propellant of choice was sodium azide, solid rocket fuel, But that is highly toxic and prone to catch fire.
	Well, you know, I was not just making this up.
	I was basing what I had to say on a report by the Associated Press.
	And the Associated Press does get a lot of things wrong.
	But it's typically things that they get wrong because of political bias, and that's pretty easy to spot.
	In this particular article, they were talking about a recall of a lot of different airbags.
	And they were the ones who said that it was ammonium nitrate.
	They said as part of this particular recall, this is happening, the airbag inflators in question are out of Knoxville, a company called ARC. And they said they're still investigating it.
	They said the situation, said a person who is in the business, Michael Brooks, who is executive director of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety, called on the National Highway Traffic Safety Association, we'll just call it NHTSA from here on out, to have them release a list of the affected models.
	He said the situation is reminiscent of the early stages of the Takata airbag inflator, recalls, in 2001.
	It took years for all of the affected vehicle models to be announced.
	He said both ARC, which is the company here in Knoxville, and Takata used ammonium nitrate to inflate airbags.
	So maybe he got it wrong, but, you know, there's different companies that make things in a different way.
	Perhaps that's where the confusion is.
	Takata's situation was more dangerous, he said, because in its inflators, the chemical could deteriorate over time when exposed to high heat and humidity.
	Well, I thought that it was more the electronics that was deteriorating.
	So maybe this guy is wrong. I don't know.
	But that's where I got this from.
	Unlike Takata, ARC uses ammonium nitrate only as a secondary chemical to inflate airbags.
	ARC's problem appears to derive instead from a manufacturing defect.
	GM, which says it doesn't know what caused the inflator to explode, has hired an engineering firm to help investigate.
	We disagree with NHTSA's new sweeping request.
	When extensive field testing has found no inherent defects in their airbags, said ARC in a statement.
	And, of course, this is a serious situation.
	We've had at least two deaths here in the United States from this Takata airbag situation.
	They're now up to 33 deaths, at least, worldwide.
	Many more people who are injured.
	Associated Press, and this is the headline that got my attention, this is a May 19th story, more than 33 million drivers are at risk from potentially deadly airbag explosions.
	They said that, again, NHTSA is demanding that ARC Automotive of Knoxville, Tennessee, recall 67 million inflators.
	And they're fighting this. They said, well, this is, you know, they've had two people who've died, seven others.
	So that's still, as Fauci would say, rare, right?
	That is very rare to have that happen.
	Furthermore, they said it's not clear that it's our inflators.
	It might be a manufacturing issue that was there from their subcontractor, even for the airbags, let alone for the cars.
	And finally, they're saying, we don't really have the legal responsibility to recall this stuff.
	That is something that you can force the automakers to do, but not something that we would do.
	So they could put an order on the automakers to do that.
	And then they denied that it was something that was inherent in their things anyway because it was so rare.
	They said it might have been a manufacturing defect and it might not have been a manufacturing defect from them.
	But again, two people have been killed in the U.S. and Canada.
	One of those killed was a 40-year-old mother of 10.
	From Michigan's Upper Peninsula, who was struck by metal fragments when her 2015 Chevy Traverse SUV was involved in a minor crash in 2021.
	She and four of her sons have been on their way to get ice cream.
	The sons were not hurt.
	It was a very minor crash.
	And this is one of the reasons why I say airbags, seatbelts, masks, jabs, you name it, It's my decision.
	It's not the government's decision.
	I don't trust them to evaluate the safety or the efficacy of anything.
	Give me your information.
	I'll make my own decision about what I want to do.
	So anyway, they said, ARC, the company in Knoxville, No automaker has found a defect that is common to all 67 million inflators, and no root cause has been identified with this.
	So this is a back and forth.
	A lot of people involved in this, a lot of people pointing fingers at each other.
	But anyway, the listener, Chuck, goes on to say, you said that if an airbag goes off without a crash, it can still kill you.
	In the early 90s, that may have been the case.
	But people have been working for 30 years to reduce this likelihood.
	There is a U.S. test protocol for out-of-position testing of airbags with small female and child dummies positioned on the module and a standing child in front of the passenger airbag.
	Well, I still believe they're dangerous, and I've taken it out of my car.
	Mainly not because I was focused.
	I gotta get that airbag out of here.
	I changed my steering wheel.
	I wanted something smaller. Make it faster to turn.
	Anyway. And as part of that, you lose the airbag.
	And I was fine with that.
	I even contemplated doing it on the other side, but I didn't want to spend the money.
	I didn't want to take it out myself because it can be dangerous to handle.
	And I remember in the early 90s, the arrogance of the National Highway Traffic Safety Association.
	When they knew that this was injuring and killing small children and women, they refused to allow people to have a switch to turn it off, you see.
	That's the key. Just like the masks, just like the jabs.
	We will decide what is safe for you.
	We will decide what is effective.
	And so now they have allowed people to put switches in.
	They still have precautions, I think, about putting a child in the front seat in a car seat or something like that.
	Maybe there is a fix on that in terms of weight, I think, with some of the cars.
	But if you remember Madison Cawthorn, the young representative from North Carolina who was in a wheelchair, The reason he was in a wheelchair, the reason he was paralyzed for life was because he fell asleep as a passenger with his legs up on the dashboard.
	And the airbags put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
	And then he says that he is appalled to hear me and Eric Peters say that cars are safer without seatbelts.
	Now, I didn't say that.
	I said they're safer without airbags.
	And the reason I say that is because statistics show that the seatbelt does make a difference, and the airbags do not.
	As a matter of fact, the airbags are identified as a supplemental restraint system for a reason.
	It's very dangerous for you to not use your seatbelt and have the airbag go off on you.
	That is a riskier situation statistically.
	And so that actually decreases your chance of survival to have no seatbelt in an airbag.
	It is used as a supplemental restraint system.
	And in terms of seatbelts, statistically, they are safer than not wearing a seatbelt.
	But that's not the case in every case.
	My father would have been killed in a car accident if he'd had a seatbelt on.
	This is the early days when most of the cars, if they had them, they were really crude lap belts, and most of the time they wound up being stuck down in the bench seat.
	He was in a Cadillac, a bigger car, and somebody ran a stop sign and ran right into the driver's door and And if he'd had a seatbelt, he would have been pinned there, and there was nothing left there.
	But the impact initially hit him, knocked him across the car to the other side, and he had minor injuries, but the car was totaled.
	He would have been totaled if he had been fixed in that particular place.
	But you can make arguments depending on the accident.
	The seatbelt can make you a lot safer or it can go the other way.
	Statistically, most of the time, it's going to increase your chances of survival when we play that statistical game.
	What I've said about the seatbelt was when it was mandated...
	I had been wearing seatbelts for a couple of years at that point.
	I'd been driving for a long time, and I was in college when that was mandated.
	Karen knew me at that point in time.
	We were already dating. And I refused to wear my seatbelt for two years.
	You know why? Because I think that a government that can dictate seatbelts to you 50 years ago can tell you that they're going to put a jab in your arm And it's safe and effective, and they're going to make that decision for you.
	I find that kind of government to be a much greater threat to my safety than any seatbelt or any airbag or any accident or any so-called pandemic.
	It was an act of rebellion against a government that had gotten out of its constitutional zone.
	And so, just to bring this up to date, In terms of the number of airbags, again, that's 33 million drivers with these airbags.
	That doesn't seem to be as much of a risk as the Takata airbags.
	And the Takata airbags are still having recalls after all these years.
	In February this year, Honda recalled another 8,200 cars.
	Why is this taking so long for them to do this?
	You had, as of May the 4th, A do not drive warning put out by the National Highway Traffic Safety Association, NHTSA. Over 90,000 BMWs.
	These are cars that are 17 to 22 years old.
	And the issue in that is the Takata airbag.
	Going off and exploding in people's chests like a shotgun.
	Or shrapnel. Putting metal shrapnel on.
	33 deaths worldwide.
	24 of these deaths occurred in the U.S. 400 injuries in North America alone.
	And you see, this is why we were talking so much about airbags.
	Was contrasting this To the draconian measures taken by the EPA, by the federal government, another branch of the federal government, against Volkswagen over their emissions.
	$4 billion criminal charges against one of their executives because they quote-unquote said they cheated on an emissions test.
	Nobody died.
	You've had situations with the Pinto.
	You've had situations with the Takata airbag, where a lot of people died.
	They didn't get those kinds of sanctions and penalties on that.
	So, before we go to Tony, he's going to be joining us in about five minutes.
	When we were talking about, and this is kind of relevant to what we're going to talk to Tony about a little bit, because there's some update information on Texas' attempts to create a digital currency backed by gold and silver.
	But, you know, Dade Phelan, who is the Speaker of the House in Texas, he has been accused of, and I think rightfully so, as we look at what's going on with the Texas bill on digital currency with gold and silver, the Conservatives in Texas have been very concerned about him.
	He has foiled them on many things that they would like to get past.
	He's been a thorn in the side to Greg Abbott on many issues as well.
	And so politically, they don't like him, and so a lot of people are just looking at this as a political thing between him and the Attorney General Ken Paxton, who was impeached by the House that Dade Phelan is, you know, Speaker of.
	And Ken Paxton, according to Texas Law, has been removed as Speaker of the House pending the trial that is going to happen in the Senate.
	In August. But we were laughing about this because Ken Paxton's response was, again, it's a political thing.
	Well, this is all just political and you're drunk.
	And my son said, well, he could have said, well, tomorrow I will be sober.
	But you'll still be corrupt.
	That really is what is happening in Texas.
	And I don't know.
	Yes, he was drunk. I played the clip for you on the floor that night, late at night.
	Certainly, it appears to me.
	He didn't take a breathalyzer.
	But if you look at the clip, I think it's pretty clear.
	You look at the way he normally talks and the way he was talking that night, I think it's pretty clear.
	But that really doesn't have anything to do with the corruption charges that Ken Paxton's involved in.
	And of course, part of that corruption, I think, that made it even more egregious was the fact that what he did for this guy that, you know, they say it was the favor that he did for this guy.
	Was to put a moratorium on foreclosures and evictions all over Texas to protect this guy who was about to lose his stuff.
	I don't support that when it's done by Biden.
	I don't support it when it's done by Trump, and Trump was the one who first started.
	And I don't support it when it's done by a so-called conservative Trump-supporting attorney general like Ken Paxton either.
	These people have very low respect for the law, in my opinion.
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	There you go. That's it. I just can't get past that.
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	All right, joining us now is Tony Arterman of wisewolf.gold.
	And Tony has kindly set up davidknight.gold that will redirect you to there and let him know where you're coming from.
	He's joining us now. You know, Tony, we usually talk about gold.
	Well, there's an interesting thing that came out of Citigroup.
	They're projecting $30 silver in the next 6 to 12 months.
	Right now, it's just under $24, I guess, somewhere around that area.
	So we're looking at something that is, you know, 28, 30% increase over the next 6 to 12 months.
	That's pretty interesting.
	I think that it should have been higher a long time ago.
	I've talked with you about the paper exchanges and some estimates are that for every real ounce of silver that exists, they're traded 250 times on the ETFs.
	And so I'm skeptical of that number.
	I'm skeptical of the value of silver because of the modern stock market, because of the ETFs.
	And I go back to the gold and silver ratio, David.
	Mm-hmm. Throughout history, most of the time, it's been between 10 to 20 ounces of silver make one ounce of gold.
	I think it's estimated geologically.
	It's in the ground, 17 ounces of silver to one ounce of gold.
	Our founders set up the system 16 to 1, and that lasted until 1933.
	And it went really askew after Franklin Roosevelt had people turn in their gold.
	And we had this, you know, the Bretton Woods system, and it was a paper gold standard.
	You weren't legally allowed to own gold.
	And so everything with silver went really haywire.
	As a matter of fact, here's a peace dollar from 1923.
	This was a silver dollar.
	It was the last silver dollar that the U.S. ever made.
	And that was, you know, that was our currency.
	We didn't have gold currency anymore.
	So it's interesting that people are starting to, and institutions are starting to realize that with the amount of silver demand for the Green New Deal electronics, for solar, all of that stuff, literally can't mine it.
	Right now and keep up with demand.
	I think that we're going to see an explosion in silver price.
	But again, this isn't investment advice.
	I'm not telling you to go out and buy silver because you're going to make a lot of money.
	I think it's basic economics that silver has been suppressed.
	Silver is, I think, poised to really have a bull market here in this decade for sure.
	Well, you know, this article on Zero Hedge says it's currently in a dip.
	It went down about 7% this month after it had gains of 20% over the past two months.
	But they also talk about what you're just talking about and have talked about many times, and that's the gold-to-silver ratio.
	They said it fell to about 30 to 1 in 2011, below 20 to 1 in 1979, but right now it is at 83 to 1.
	And so to put that in perspective, the average in the modern era, after everything got messed up that you're talking about with FDR, the average in the modern era has been between 40 to 1 and 50 to 1.
	And so then he looks at the supply side that you're talking about.
	And he says, right now, if you look at the demand for solar panels, which uses a lot of silver, University of New South Wales in Australia, they said solar manufacturers will likely require over 20% of the current annual silver supply by 2027.
	And by 2050, they think that solar panel production would use approximately 85 to 98% Of the current global silver reserve.
	And so they said at the same time that is exploding, the supply of silver, you know, as they're mining it on a regular basis, that's remaining about constant.
	So it's pretty amazing when you look at what is happening with silver.
	Well, I think there are certain entities that really are playing 4D chess.
	It's not Donald Trump.
	I look at the giant banks, and this has been my philosophy for a while, my thesis, is that these giant banks like J.P. Morgan, which I believe is the largest private silver holder in the world at this point, I think they have a vested interest in keeping the price of silver low.
	It keeps the general public out of the physical silver market.
	So the paper silver is traded.
	It looks like it's always going down.
	I'll never forget that big silver run.
	I talk about this all the time, but it was so shocking to me that silver run back at the beginning of 2021, you had the GameStop people from the Reddit pages that were telling everybody, go out and buy physical silver, we'll drive the price up.
	So, I mean, they had People like me in my shop was cleaned out of silver.
	I was trying to lock in silver at the trading floor.
	It was three weeks out. Every shop I knew was cleaned out.
	The next day, David, the price of silver went down because the powers that be, the bullion traders in the big houses, traded 1.5 times the annual supply in one day and sold it off to make that price go down.
	I think I think that the large entities and the banking consortiums have a vested interest in keeping the price of silver down so they can continue to buy the physical.
	And there's a great story I covered almost about a year ago.
	A Texas female billionaire wanted to just go ahead and diversify some of her holdings and she wanted to buy silver eagles and some 90% silver.
	She called up brokers and she wanted to spend $100 million.
	It took... It took several exchanges all over the U.S. and they had massive delays just to fill that one order.
	And they couldn't fill it.
	It had to be done in chunks.
	It had to be done with several brokers.
	So if you really look at the amount of silver that exists in real world and trying to go get it, if you wanted to write that check, if you were a billionaire, you can do that on Wall Street because it's paper, but you cannot do that in the real world and source it anymore.
	And that's one of the reasons I'm here in Denison, Texas.
	I'm in downtown Denison. I had to set up a second shop because I need supply.
	And supply is not what it used to be.
	It's not like when I started.
	And I think it's going to get even tighter.
	We're talking about that Texas billionaire mix.
	Wasn't it E. Bunker Hunt who tried to corner the silver market or something?
	That's right. Yeah. That's the Hunt brothers.
	Yeah. The year I was born, silver was, and this was 1979, silver was right at $50 an ounce.
	And that's another indicator that we have cheap silver.
	I mean, you know this, David. I mean, what was $50 in 1980?
	Yeah. That's like $200 today in purchasing power, at least, right?
	So I think, you know, silver at 50, and that's when you mentioned it was 20 to 1 in 1979.
	I think that we have an artificial number on silver.
	I think it's a great thought experiment.
	What would make something, you know, all throughout history, 10 to 20 to 1, go to 83?
	And by the way... I remember this clear as a bell.
	You go back to the scamdemic after Trump signed the executive order, the stock market whipsawed.
	If you remember, it had its largest day, one day it had its biggest day ever, a big rally, and then a week later it had the lowest since 1929.
	Silver was at 126 ounces to one on gold at one time.
	It was 126 ounces.
	Wow, I miss that.
	I don't remember that happening with silver.
	That's pretty amazing. No, you couldn't buy it for that, right?
	There was like $11, $12 silver.
	I had people calling me. I said, the price is just artificial.
	You can't buy it for that. Yeah, that's crazy.
	But everything about that was artificial and manipulated, wasn't it?
	And that's the key thing.
	My thing about, you know, gold and silver again is as a hedge against whatever they're going to do in terms of trying to make us a cashless society, in terms of trying to push us into CBDC, take out crypto, all these other things.
	And silver, as you and I have talked about many times, that is because it's lower intrinsic value.
	It makes it easier for you to deal with people on regular exchanges than with the gold that is there.
	And so those are the kind of things that I look at with gold and silver.
	You know, that hedge against what the Federal Reserve is going to do and what Washington may do in terms of prohibitions.
	Well, I totally agree with you.
	I mean, just, you know, look at what silver, it's a great monetary metal.
	It has industrial uses.
	It's used in medicine. You know, there's the famous stories you hear about people putting the silver dollar in the milk on the wagon trains, you know, back in the 19th century because it would keep the milk better longer and without spoiling.
	I think that we're going to see an explosion in people purchasing silver and using silver as tradable and barredable.
	I think that's going to be something that's going to happen in our future, especially with the currency issues, with the de-dollarization, with the people trying to get outside of the system of the digitized currency.
	When you and I spoke on the war on cash, it's only ramping up.
	We see that around the world.
	It's not just in the United States.
	There's a war on cash in every country.
	And I would remind your audience that every country on earth is a fiat currency.
	We just happen to have the best of the worst, and we have the best fake currency out there.
	And there was an article today about Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe looking to increase their currency by backing it with gold and having a digitized currency.
	And I think, again, that's something we're seeing.
	We're going to see countries trying to peg something to value and escape this fiat debt cycle.
	I mean, you talked about the beginning of the show.
	You talked about the debt ceiling.
	Most people don't realize that this has really never happened in our history where we've had the debt-to-GDP ratio constantly above 100%.
	If you look back through the charts, David, you'll see that we've had times where it has exceeded that, like 1946 years.
	Just coming after the end of World War II, there was a spike.
	I think we hit a little over 100%.
	But then that calmed down.
	I mean, 1950s, it was 30-something percent.
	1960s, 40%.
	Even at the...
	Exit of Nixon, the last time we ran a trade surplus in this country in 1974, it was under 40% of debt to GDP. It's 125%, 130% now with this new debt deal.
	And it's only going to increase.
	This is unsustainable.
	No economist would sign off.
	No real economist would sign off and say that you can have a sustainable functioning government and economy with a debt to income GDP ratio like that.
	It's nonsense.
	No real economist would, but you have people, I think it was Paul Krugman who said, it doesn't matter.
	Krugman, yeah. It doesn't matter.
	We just have to be able to service it.
	Well, if it constantly stays, you know, 20, 30% or more over your total income, that is not serviceable.
	You know, a temporary spike, as you pointed out, is serviceable, but that is not.
	We've talked last week about Texas...
	And the gold-backed cryptocurrency they're trying to put in.
	That's one of the reasons why I wanted to go back and revisit Dade Phelan, who is the left-leaning GOP Speaker of the House.
	They were able, it appears, to stop that in the House.
	And so, again, you know, Dade has done his thing.
	It's not going to get through there.
	But it is kind of interesting.
	There was a Substack article by John Rubino who said, well...
	You know, CBDC is, if it's managed by some combination of the Federal Reserve and the military industrial complex, of course, that's going to be bad, you know?
	But if it's backed by gold or silver, and if it's run transparently by people who respect their citizens' privacy and agency, then it's potentially part of a brighter monetary future.
	And it's like, wait, stop right there.
	If we're going to have... We're going to have a system that is going to be dependent on good people running it.
	That's not a very well-designed system, whether you're talking about finances or politics, because we all know that people are not inherently good.
	So there's got to be something there. The gold and silver does have a possibility of keeping it honest, but that is...
	That is still a big issue.
	And of course, now we know that, at least this year, it didn't get through the House.
	So, you know, I think there is something to the criticism in Texas that the Speaker is left-leaning and working with Democrats to stop a lot of the agenda of Abbott and other more conservative Republicans who want to get some things through.
	So right now it looks like it's now theoretical at least.
	Well, I didn't like that bill.
	I didn't like the concept.
	Again, you at first glance and you hear it, you go, yes, a digital currency backed by gold.
	And then when you couple it with the state's going to run it, if you know anything about what's going to happen to Texas, and I'm not, this isn't just me being a pessimist.
	I look at numbers.
	So Texas is going to be what you would call, and I don't like the terms either, neither do you, the blue state.
	It's going to be a blue state.
	It's going to turn purple first and then blue.
	It's demographics, folks.
	The Republicans wanted an open border.
	They'll run against it and raise money.
	They've been doing it since I was a little kid, saying they're going to do something about the border.
	No one ever did. So we're going to have a massive demographic shift in Texas, even with all the people fleeing other blue states.
	I think you're going to have that shift.
	And so eventually you're going to have Democrats in charge of Texas.
	They were when I was a kid. That was Blue Dog Democrats.
	Totally different era.
	And it's going to be the Democrats.
	They've got an open border to California, too.
	So it's going to be those California Democrats like Elon Musk and everybody else.
	I was telling everybody this week. I can't believe we got out just in time.
	He put up his big complex there, just south of Austin, really close to where we used to live.
	And it was kind of, I didn't realize what the construction was when we were there, but yeah, escaped that.
	But there's going to be a tremendous amount of that moving there, a lot of billionaires moving there, a lot of Silicon Valley billionaires, as well as the demographics of people who are coming.
	So it is absolutely going to be a blue state, and it's going to be also a very polarized state with a big underclass and the Silicon Valley billionaires at the top.
	That's a real concern, I think.
	Well, that is the concern.
	And that's why, you know, again, any state-run currency, any digitized currency, I'm going to oppose.
	I mean, it sounds good on paper.
	Joseph P. Farrell, who wrote a great book called Babylon's Banksters, he's been a researcher for a long time.
	He had a podcast just after you interviewed me on it, and it was saying the same thing.
	I said, well, I'm in good company, saying that this is something to be skeptical of.
	And I mentioned, you know, Zimbabwe, they were doing the same thing.
	But again, you can't redeem that currency in real physical gold.
	So I think there's a lot of maneuvering here, trying to see if they can get a backdoor with the CBDC, because the direct approach is getting some resistance from the grassroots, saying we're skeptical of this, we don't want this currency, it's digitized slavery, it's going to be a monitoring system disguised as cash.
	And I think people are, again, there's enough people to be skeptical to push back on it.
	So be mindful that they do use other means, other backdoors to do that, to satiate the doubters.
	I think that's any currency that, we have options now.
	Look at the worldwide gold standard.
	I've mentioned this before. You can go look at it.
	It's the same in every country around the world.
	You have a Bitcoin standard.
	There's many decentralized ways in private currency, and I think that's really what's going to be competing with the dollar, along with the BRICS nations.
	But we the people can use our own currency.
	We don't need the government. That's right.
	And there's a lot of different ways that you can slice this thing.
	You know, you had... When we were in Hong Kong, I looked at the paper money, and it's...
	Well, look, this is the same denomination, but it's a different size.
	It's a different color. They're both Hong Kong dollars.
	And then, you know, I looked into it, and they had private banks that were issuing the notes, which is the way it used to be in the U.S. And they had to have the actual reserves there.
	So, you know, it was...
	You know, still the reserves are going to be reserves of U.S. dollars for the most part and things like that.
	But the bottom line is that they kept a certain level of honesty there.
	And so there's a lot of different ways that we can slice this thing.
	Even when you look at it from a state standpoint, I thought one of the interesting legal issues that would come up with it, you know, what would the federal government's response be?
	If a state were to kind of create its own gold currency, it doesn't have to be digital, but it could be, you know, like they've done in other, starting to do in other places with the gold that's embedded in the paper, you know what that is.
	What is that? The Goldbacks.
	The Goldbacks, yeah. Okay. Goldbacks.
	You know, you can do that type of thing.
	There's a lot of different things that can be done that way.
	The Constitution actually says that states will not accept anything other than gold and silver coin.
	It says that the federal government has the power to do that, but it doesn't say that's their exclusive power.
	So, you know, if we have a situation where the federal government spins us into oblivion, we have a crash of the financial system, we could still have, legally, under the Constitution, and I think it'd be a real tough thing for them to challenge it in the same way that Jeff Sessions did not want to challenge the nullification of the drug war on marijuana as state by state was legalizing it.
	I think if state by state, if they started to say, we're going to coin our own money in gold and silver, they wouldn't have anything they could do about that.
	I think that's a part of our future.
	I think states will do that.
	I think they will legitimately challenge the federal government and they will say, we're doing your job.
	This is one of the things you're supposed to do.
	Only Congress can coin money and it has to be gold and silver.
	This is in the Constitution.
	1913 did not override that.
	As a matter of fact, it's an illegal bank.
	It's an illegal central bank, a private central bank.
	The Federal Reserve is not federal, and it's not a reserve.
	Again, that's something that was never, ever really truly examined or challenged.
	And I think it will be. And it will be challenged by the states.
	I mean, I think those are the only entities really that could challenge the monetary policy of the United States.
	I think it's a good thing. Yeah.
	Just like the CDC is a vaccine company.
	It's not federal. It doesn't have any reserves.
	Yeah, they're pulling this on us in a lot of different ways.
	But I think, you know, if I remember correctly, it just says that Congress will have the power, but it doesn't say only Congress will have the power.
	And so I think there's an opportunity there for a lot of activism at a state level to start to lay the foundation to protect the citizens and to keep the state solving.
	It's one of the things that Frank Nicely is doing here.
	He says, look, the state government is a really big entity, a big part of the economy.
	We need to be able to make payroll and got to do other stuff like that.
	So from that standpoint, It's important for the state to have some solvency to own gold and some other things like that.
	That's why he's trying to push so hard on that.
	When we look at...
	The ways that they can get to us, of course, CBDC is just one way, the fastest way, I think, to get their digital ID. But we've got, in Europe, four different programs that are out there to give everybody a universal ID. And we know that it's going to turn into one global ID really lightning fast once they do that type of thing.
	But that is what is at the center of everything they're doing with the CBDC. They've got to get everything identified and tagged.
	They want us tagged just like we are a piece of inventory with an RFID. That's their ideal situation.
	That's what they're all working towards.
	And that's one of the things that makes CBDC so dangerous, I think.
	Well, you're absolutely right. It's surveillance disguised as money.
	It's a top-down totalitarian control system.
	Again, I've been reading the history of money, going back and looking at stuff.
	I want to know how we got here.
	And if you look at how civilizations perish, the rise of empires, it's interesting.
	They follow that same line where they'll amass a certain amount of riches through trade, they'll have a gold standard, they'll flourish for a long time, and then they'll go to war, then they'll debase their currency, and the cycle basically winds down where that country disappears.
	Every country that it has had or empire that has had a massive holding of wealth and then debased their currency has fallen.
	This isn't going to be true of the United States as well, unfortunately.
	And again, I'm an American.
	I love this country.
	I served in the military because I love the country.
	Now I look at the foreign policy and anybody listens to my show because I'm very skeptical of the American empire.
	And I think the American empire is coming apart.
	But I think these things go together, debasing a currency, overreaching geopolitically, overextending yourself, not having a border, having a corrupt political system.
	These things all go together.
	So if you're looking at this from a historical standpoint, those who did well in any age that were looking at the implosion of the country in which they lived or the empire, they did well to hold on to real assets.
	You know, don't buy into the system completely.
	I mean, this is something, there's a phenomenon happening that isn't picked up by most of the mainstream media, and that is central banks buying gold.
	I mentioned it on your show, but if you look at the staggering amount of gold being ordered, especially in developing countries, David, this is the tell.
	Mm-hmm.
	2023, it beat the first quarter of 2022 by 176% it was over for the previous year.
	So again, we're talking about almost 1,200 tons of gold ordered from central banks in 2022.
	The average is about 400.
	So they, again, almost a triple.
	And then they're looking at 2023, getting close to that.
	But again, they're just continuing to order.
	That's what's driving the price of gold up, in my opinion.
	I mean, it's really the private sector is having some demand, but it's those giant purchases from central banks, especially after the sanctions on Russia.
	That's what's driving the price.
	So there's going to be a new financial system.
	So my point of all this history is the reason I look at money, what happens during those times is If the one continuous pattern and devaluation and collapses of currencies and economies is the people that did well held on to value and were able to outlast that system to weather the storm better.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, on the international level, people are able to see that with the Russian sanctions, and the central banks are doing that, getting away from the tyranny of the American hegemony and that type of stuff.
	On the individual level, we could clearly see that with what happened with Trudeau and the truck protests that were there.
	Now we've got the Department of Justice here not going in and directly seizing accounts, But the people that have been trapped in all this January the 6th stuff, they're still using it politically as a weapon for people who had GoFundMe legal funds and things like that.
	They're now going in to claw that back with fines equivalent to what they had collected from GoFundMe.
	So you got $16,000 from GoFundMe.
	We're going to take that back in terms of a fine and send you to jail for an excessive period of time as well.
	So it's interesting to see How everything is devolving into a politicized weapon.
	They're not doing it exactly the same way that Trudeau did, but they're very close to doing it.
	The individual citizens don't see this as clearly, of course, as the central banks in different countries understand how this financial system is being weaponized against them.
	And they can do things like that even before they get into a CBDC scenario.
	Sure. Well, look at FedNow.
	FedNow is supposedly going live in July, or at least the bones of it.
	They ran it off the, I think it was Bank of America, the larger banks they used to piggyback the system on the beta test.
	That's a payment-structured system trying to put it into the hands of the central bank and away from places like Cash App or Venmo or PayPal.
	I think that's dangerous.
	Yeah. I like decentralization.
	You're talking about payment systems and who monitors the movement of monies across bank accounts.
	The last entity I want being in charge of that is a Federal Reserve Bank.
	Again, that's where we're headed.
	If you're looking at the CBDC and you're looking at Biden's executive order to have all those executive branches look at how they could implement central bank digital currency, this is real.
	It's going to be, at least...
	It may not be a complete reality the way we see it.
	I think that it probably will be.
	But I think if we resist it, it could fail.
	And I think we're in that pivotal stage now where if more people are informed about it, it's kind of like that bill in Texas.
	It didn't get passed, even though there's probably had a lot of support.
	We have to be skeptical of anything that's coming out of the central bank, especially central bank digital currency.
	Again, they're going to piggyback off these payment systems.
	This is a way they can control you politically.
	Yeah, absolutely. It's going to be difficult.
	They're looking at all kinds of control mechanisms, as I pointed out earlier in the show, even to have pre-speech censorship.
	Even before you can get your stuff uploaded to the digital public square, they will shut you down in the launch phase.
	It's like taking out the intercontinental ballistic missiles.
	You know, they're easier to take them out in the launching phase.
	So they're working on all of these things, a total control grid that is out there.
	And that's the key thing.
	You know, freedom is going to come in the nugget form as my, as my listener, Austin, who is there with Wise Wolf as a donation to the program said it does.
	Freedom is going to come in the nugget form.
	We've got to get outside of the system.
	We've got to have something that is real and not virtual.
	For all those reasons, you know, privacy, private financial transactions, that's what Catherine Austin Fitz is trying to work with here in Tennessee.
	We've got to preserve that transactional privacy that is there.
	And that's why these things are so important.
	Tell us a little bit about what is going on.
	You're there in Texas now.
	You've got the big buffalo head behind you.
	If you kind of scrunch down, you look like the shaman on January the 6th there, maybe, right?
	Where are those horns coming from?
	That's a good idea, David.
	It might be my next act if Wise Wolf doesn't work out.
	Yeah, I'm here in downtown Denison.
	Again, I had to set up a second location because I promised people that we were going to have a supply chain for gold and silver, especially if you join Wolfpack, and Wolfpack's my monthly membership program.
	That's guaranteed delivery.
	There's no delay. If you join after your credit card runs or your PayPal runs or whatever, we have it within, I think it's 48 hours, we'll have a tracking code for you usually.
	So I promised a supply, so that's one of the reasons I set this location up.
	It's about an hour to the gold and silver trading floor in Dallas, so it allows me a little bit of leeway.
	But I'm here a week in Texas, and I go back to a week in Branson, Missouri.
	So I'm usually on the road now.
	But it's been great.
	We're building a pretty steady stream of customers here, people selling, people buying, all that good stuff.
	And Wolfpack's growing.
	That's something I really think in the future, and I've talked about on your show, I'm just one man, so I'm trying to...
	Thank you.
	I'm trying to... Get a certain supply of silver running for Wolfpack and gold for Wolfpack.
	I'm trying to keep that steady.
	So I've been working on growing that and working on getting it as a community.
	That's something that I've been talking to you about.
	And so I'm one guy. I'm working on that.
	And so I want to tell people if you'll join Wolfpack, For David Knight listeners only, I've talked about this before.
	We're going to put goldbacks into the packages.
	I have a long list of everybody who joined since then.
	That's going to be going out this month.
	We didn't have Kinsey for the last time.
	We had about three weeks last month where I didn't have Kinsey.
	So it really hurt my logistics there, but I'm getting caught up on that.
	But I bought a load of silver dollars, David, and that's why I was showing...
	At the beginning of the show, these are 1923 peace dollars.
	I've got some Morgan silver dollars.
	So the last silver dollar runs that the U.S. ever did.
	I've got about 150 of those.
	I'm going to give those away.
	If you join Wolfpack, if you enlist David Knight, you go to davidknight.gold, hit join Wolfpack.
	And if you go check it out and find a tier that you like, if you join today under David Knight's band, I'm going to send you a silver dollar.
	Wow. And that's just for David Knight listeners.
	I bought a load of silver.
	I've been holding on to it for two weeks.
	I decided last night, and this is going to drive Kenzie up the wall.
	So I told him, like, I got to do something.
	We need to push it. We're trying to get to 1,000 members.
	We're real close. I think once we hit that number, it's going to make the buying power of everybody collectively a lot stronger.
	So free silver dollar for everybody who joins Wolfpack under David Knight's banner.
	David Knight listeners only. I will not say this anywhere else or on my podcast.
	That's great. Well, thank you for doing that, and that's a good opportunity for people right there.
	And you can join at pretty much any level, and that's a key thing.
	The power of doing this on a regular basis is very important.
	It's great talking to you, Tony.
	Before you leave, give us an update on what's going on with Kenzie's family.
	Was it her sister, I think, that...
	It was her sister.
	Yeah, her sister. She used to actually work for me a little bit.
	Kenzie and her worked together.
	And so, you know, it hit really close to home.
	She lost her little girl, Kenzie's niece.
	It was just a tragic accident.
	They had the family that lived near a river or waterway.
	And the little girl got outside, got into the river somehow.
	And, you know, it just kind of just really shocks the system to think about and makes you want to hug your loved ones a little bit tighter.
	Those kind of things happen.
	They aren't tragic.
	But the family rallied together.
	There was a lot of support.
	There was a lot of great support from David Knight listeners as well.
	I just want to say thank you for that.
	And the whole Wise Wolf team, we just really wanted to make sure Kenzie was okay.
	We made sure that she didn't have to worry about her workload or anything that was going on.
	But she's back at it.
	And if you have anything going on with gold and silver through davidknight.gold, chances are you'll talk to Kenzie.
	So we appreciate all your prayers and support.
	That's good. Yeah, I've interviewed Kenzie once, and it was great talking to her.
	You got a real find with her.
	I'm really sorry to hear about that happening with her family, but again, we've kept her in our prayers, and so we're hoping that's going to be something that they're going to have to work out over a long period of time.
	But it's always great talking to you, Tony.
	Thank you so much. And again, that special deal for people who sign up for Wolfpack today.
	Get a free silver gold dollar if you do it through davidknight.gold.
	So thank you so much, Tony, for doing that.
	Appreciate that. We're going to take a quick break, and we're going to come right back.
	And I see on Rockfan, we got a question from Audi MRR. Can somebody tell me the best way to get some of David Knight's original music?
	If you send me, I know you're going to be playing some of that on a special program we got.
	You mentioned that. If you send me an email and tell me where to email it, I'll send you.
	We transfer of the files so that you'll be able to pull that down.
	So just let me know, and I appreciate you doing that.
	And it's coming up on this weekend on his station, MRR. So just let me know where that is.
	And thank you, Nick.
	Thank you. Appreciate the tip on Rumble.
	Humble, thank you very much.
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	Thank you for joining us, sir. Thank you, David, so much for your work.
	Thank you for having me. Oh, it's great to have you on.
	Now, you're in California, right?
	Downtown San Francisco, yes sir.
	Oh wow, you're the epicenter of a lot of these problems here.
	Tell us what you're seeing on the ground there in California from a liberty perspective.
	Are they getting over this pandemic panic or is it still got the mask stuck on their faces?
	There's a lot of people who are stuck in that, as you can expect.
	And throughout this all, I've just been kind of encouraging people, you know, you can spend all your time focusing on the hyenas of the world, the Klaus Schwab types, the Bill Gates types.
	And if you spend too much time there, you got to know what they're doing.
	But if you spend too much time there, you're going to bum yourself out.
	You can spend a lot of time, you know, there's this other group of people who are kind of Kind of sheep-like.
	I don't mean to be pejorative with that, but they're just kind of looking to not stick their necks out and to try to stay with the folks around them, look for the best leader to follow.
	If you spend too much time looking at those folks, you know, your neighbor who's wearing five masks still and who's been jabbed 12 times, you're going to bum yourself out.
	You want to know what they're up to too, but if you can just kind of find the lions in your midst and help wake them up a little bit, help to encourage them, You're going to have really enjoyable moments overwhelmingly.
	And that's kind of what I'm focusing on a lot and seeing a lot.
	And this is people who three years ago would have not even worried about anything political, would not even have asked questions about how the government's functioning, what's going on in local affairs.
	They're turning into these amazing grassroots warriors, and the establishment's starting to figure out they're not going away.
	And it's really special to be part of that and to be seeing that.
	Yeah, that's good. Yeah, it's difficult to get people to understand that even if you're not interested in politics and policy papers and stuff like that, all those people are interested in you, and they're eventually going to tackle you to the ground and put a mask on your face, you know, whoever.
	Who would have thought that would be the method of tyranny?
	But yeah, that's what we did see.
	And that's been a big wake-up call for a lot of people.
	And I hope they don't go back to sleep.
	I hope they don't feel like, well, now we've won.
	And I think it's especially true in places like San Francisco and the Pacific Northwest when I would travel up to Washington State and to Oregon.
	That would be where the people were most likely to recognize me.
	And... Because they're living in the midst of a very repressive, big government system, and they're searching for how do we fight back against this?
	And so it made sense to me as I thought about it.
	It becomes a very polarizing thing.
	it becomes a way to increase people's resistance to things in the same way that when you have repression of a communist government against churches or something it drives them underground but it makes them a lot stronger you know if it doesn't kill them it makes them stronger as the saying goes and so I think it's the local area and it's got to be really hard to find people like that in San Francisco things like run people who are going to be the sheriff That's such an important thing.
	If we can focus around people like that, that can make a huge difference.
	It's difficult to do something at the state level in California because the state is so big and so far left, but maybe at a local level.
	Absolutely. Absolutely.
	And this, you know, you bring up the churches there, this closing down of the churches.
	Yeah. I had a chance for a few years after college to live in former Czechoslovakia, in former communist Czechoslovakia, and I constantly...
	I couldn't answer this question of what...
	What is it that caused such a prosperous place to turn into this abject communism?
	And such really heavy-handed totalitarianism, communism, really ugly, some of the stuff that happened there.
	And I left there saying, you know, one day I want to just kind of understand, you know, what's going on.
	And there was a difference between there and the U.S., and it wasn't the Second Amendment.
	I didn't perceive that as the necessary difference.
	I think guns are super important for protecting from tyrants, but what I perceived as the key difference was the church.
	And in the US, almost the entire world, the wealthier a country gets, the less likely people are to go to church.
	And the US is very different in that regard.
	For whatever reason, as people get wealthier in the U.S., church attendance does not drop off.
	I don't know what that is. But it's something special about the U.S. When the Ides of March 2020 came, the churches closed down.
	It was kind of a...
	It was a potent wake-up call to me that that institution that I thought was going to be there is becoming super compliant.
	Not a bulwark, but super compliant.
	And I've watched you bring up the sheriff topic earlier.
	Yeah, and let me say before we get off the churches, you know, and what has happened is you see that these churches closed down and stayed closed down.
	Some of them closed down because they thought, well, it's just a real emergency.
	And then after a few weeks, they start to realize, wait a minute.
	Now, this isn't what they said it is.
	And then as they ramped up the regulations, you had a lot of them saying, wait, they're telling us that we can get together if we wear masks and we stay apart and have only a certain percentage.
	But they're telling us we can't sing.
	All right, we're done. We're not going to do that anymore.
	So there was this whole spectrum of different reactions to it.
	But I think the churches that really grew, the stronger their reaction was against this kind of dictate, the stronger those churches came out on the back end.
	And the churches that complied with it and continued to comply with it, they were weakened on the back end.
	And so that's been kind of a sifting and a sorting there as well.
	So it strengthened some of them, and it showed the others what it was really about.
	And so I think that's an important part of it as well.
	But yeah, talking about, as a matter of fact, there in California, you've got Calvary Chapel.
	They're still getting hit with fines.
	They're still coming after them with fines.
	Some of the places, like in L.A., I remember, had massive fines against the big church there that John MacArthur has, and they won, and they got those fines taken care of and their legal fees taken care of.
	But I was surprised to see they're still coming after, I think, where is it, San Jose or something, the Calvary Chapel Church in San Jose?
	Still coming after them to try to collect these fines.
	In San Jose there, that's the center of Silicon Valley.
	People who don't know California's geography, that's called Santa Clara County.
	That's right. If the local population hated all the health mandates, and they don't, it wouldn't matter.
	But there's quite a vocal minority there.
	But it just wouldn't matter because there's such a dynamic there where the big tech organizations...
	They want their public health department experimental.
	They want their public health department very eager to control things.
	And they almost seem to like the compliance mentality that is established by the public health department.
	Oh, yeah, too. Yeah, you look at the people who push universal basic income.
	And what is that? Well, that's how they keep us under control, as Bloomberg said, right?
	They want this system of universal Marxism where they take everything from us.
	They keep us pacified with some kind of just a very basic income.
	And you see all these people in Silicon Valley rally around Andrew Yang.
	You had Elon Musk, a big supporter of his.
	I think Peter Thiel was.
	But it's all these Silicon Valley billionaires.
	They love that control.
	George Gilder calls them neo-Marxists because of that kind of stuff.
	So, yeah, I understand exactly where those people are coming from.
	Yeah. So that specific one that you speak of, you raise a great point bringing up Calvary Chapel San Jose because of that location.
	And I think that Public Health Department is not going to back down on that one.
	They're going to want to fight that until they're proven woefully wrong.
	I grew in my faith.
	Because of 2020. I look back on this as I would go to a church very close to me, a big, beautiful church, and they would preach.
	It wasn't the right place for me.
	They'd preach gun control from the pulpit more than they'd say Jesus' name.
	And I went there because it was convenient.
	And that was it. I lived a busy life, and it was near my home.
	And I just wanted to be somewhere, praising the Lord on Sundays, and if it wasn't perfect, whatever.
	I drive, the closest church I found, I didn't know about Calvary San Jose at the beginning, the closest church I found that was open was three hours away from me.
	That was the first church I walked into that was open.
	And I haven't left there since.
	I drive three hours each way on Sunday because it means so much to me that that little church in the middle of nowhere, they said, we're going to stand up against Big Bad Newsome.
	We've had, through into that little church, we've brought speakers like Simone Gold of America's Frontline Doctors, or Arthur Pawlowski, the preacher from Canada.
	And it's a tiny little church, and just that decision to stay open, just to speak to what you said, David...
	I remember when this whole thing kicked off, you know, middle of March, and it had been gone on for a couple of weeks and had been talking about it.
	You know, John Rapoport was on it from the very beginning.
	He said, hey, look, we've got two weeks' worth of data from Italy.
	It's just old people dying in the usual way.
	They have multiple comorbidities, and they're past the average age of life expectancy, but they're calling this a pandemic.
	And so he was on that from the very beginning.
	I remember he came on And it was a couple weeks still before Easter.
	And he said, In defiance of this, and people can see that they didn't all die, but to keep the churches open because they're not afraid of death, because they really believe what they say.
	And so that was an opportunity that was missed, unfortunately, by so many places.
	But you're right. If you can find a church like that where they really live, What they say they believe.
	We've always had churches who have stayed open throughout the worst kinds of pandemics, real pandemics in Europe.
	They never closed the doors. We never closed.
	We've had big pandemics in the past, so we never closed the doors to churches.
	And the worst part of it is that you had unelected bureaucrats telling you you can't meet.
	And that was by design.
	It truly was a litmus test, I think.
	David, may I make an activism request for your audience real quick?
	If... To you listening right now, and to David as well, perhaps.
	If... I don't want you to necessarily hold a grudge against those who closed down.
	There were people who were scared and they might even still be scared.
	But that's a different story if you're still scared in 2023.
	But I would like you please to have that sober conversation with your pastor.
	Right now, if that happened again, what would you do?
	And you need a real clear answer that that will never happen, that they will never close down again for any reason.
	That's what you need right now.
	I personally do hold some grudges against those who close down.
	That is... I don't want you to hold those same grudges.
	I'm not trying to encourage that kind of grudge.
	I do think that conversation has to happen, though.
	And the only reason I really hold those grudges is because I continue to see people copping out of those conversations.
	And I just think that's important to have.
	And you should probably have yourself at a church where they're going to stand up next time that happens.
	I agree. And I think it's a real, you know, as I said, it's not a grudge situation, but you just want to know that they're going to live out what they believe.
	And what do they trust in, right?
	Do they trust in masks to protect them?
	Do they trust in God?
	Are they willing to do the types of things that Christians always have?
	You know, we had hospitals, first hospitals were being done by Christian churches.
	By doctors who were not afraid of it.
	I had this story that I mentioned many times to people trying to encourage the churches to have some courage about this and to not be afraid of it.
	When I was young, they thought that I had meningitis.
	They thought I was going to die. They kept everybody out, including my parents.
	But the pastor of my church came in to visit with me.
	Oh, praise the Lord. He wasn't afraid to die.
	Praise the Lord. Yeah.
	He really came in to visit you, huh?
	Yeah, yeah. That's beautiful.
	It was. He wasn't afraid to die because he knew.
	He had a confident expectation in what lay ahead.
	How old were you about?
	You were like 8? You were like 12?
	Oh, no. I was like 5 years old.
	It made a lifetime impression on me.
	It really did. Wow. Were you old enough at five to recognize what was happening, you think?
	Oh yeah, yeah. Wow!
	Everybody was thinking that I was going to die.
	They misdiagnose viral meningitis many times with other things.
	So I guess they erred on the side of caution, that type of thing.
	But my parents were freaking out.
	I knew that was happening.
	And I was in solitary confinement, and nobody would come in there except the pastor.
	It was amazing. It is a beautiful story.
	Yeah. And so I told people that.
	I said, you know, why did he do that?
	And what did it teach me as a young child about genuine faith?
	And that's what we need to be looking for in the churches that we attend.
	Authenticity, genuine faith.
	They're trusting in God.
	They're not trusting in their vaccines or their medicines or their masks or their public health directors.
	They're trusting in God because they genuinely believe that.
	And they're not playing church.
	Well said. Well said.
	Well, what is happening there politically?
	There's a sheriff's race there that you contact me about before.
	Because the sheriff's race is really, really big.
	Of all the local offices, that is the key one.
	And so what is happening there that you see with the sheriff's race?
	Tell people about that story. It's amazing.
	I spend quite a bit of time going up and down the California coast, helping to organize groups, getting activists, More prepared to do the things they want to be doing in life.
	And just some real heroes emerge over and over again.
	One of them is named Ann Colton.
	Ann, A-N-H, not Ann, Ann.
	She comes from Southeast Asia originally.
	Immigrant from a communist country.
	And a legal immigrant.
	That gives you a backbone, doesn't it?
	Yeah. Those people can know what's happening a mile away because they lived under it.
	Oh, I recognize this.
	And they see it way before we do here in this country.
	Ann's a homeschool mom.
	Ann's a Christian. And she's not just a Christian.
	She's the one in the room who will speak up every time.
	Something's not right in the room.
	She's going to speak up.
	And She felt called to run for sheriff.
	And in California, now some of your listeners might not like this detail here.
	In California, there's a protection in place.
	A protection for law enforcement, I'll say.
	Just like There was a time where an outsider ran for sheriff about 40 years ago and became this really popular sheriff and he reformed how jails were run and things like that.
	And the law enforcement lobby said, listen, the doctors get to have their union, their union where they Say who's allowed to practice medicine, who isn't.
	And the lawyers get to have their union, and they don't call it a union, but that's what it is.
	Anyone who's not in the union, you're going to go to jail if you try to heal someone.
	You're going to go to jail if you try to go represent someone in court.
	The lawyers get to have their union to say who can be in and out.
	It's more like a guild, isn't it?
	It's more like a guild, isn't it?
	Yes, medieval guild.
	And the...
	Law enforcement said, we want to make sure only our kind get to run for sheriff.
	So Ann said, I'm running for sheriff.
	And the DA at this point says she had no law enforcement experience.
	Ann said, I'm running for sheriff.
	And she ran without this law enforcement experience.
	And the DA came to her and said, hey...
	You gotta drop out of this race.
	And this is... The ballot's already printed.
	The stuff's already there.
	And she said, I'm running.
	I'm running. And Ann for quite a few months struggled with this.
	She believed God was calling her to run.
	And she didn't want to...
	She just still felt called.
	She was supposed to run. She didn't want to back down.
	And she'd go to these events.
	She's not, they say she committed perjury.
	This law, this law that, that says only law enforcement can run the state legislature.
	Once upon a time said, fine, we'll give you that law, but we're not putting any teeth into it.
	You're not going to be able to put anyone in jail over this.
	You're not going to be able to point one in court over this.
	It's a law.
	And there's many, many laws like this, but they have no teeth.
	You can do nothing with the law.
	Hey, Dr. Fauci, you violated a bunch of laws.
	Oh, well, those laws have no teeth.
	What are you going to do to me? He violated laws that do have teeth, too.
	I don't mean to compare her to Fauci, but just to say that there are many laws that don't have teeth, and we know that.
	So the DA manipulated the situation so that he can go after her with perjury.
	So they're trying to put her in jail for four years because she ran for sheriff incorrectly.
	I estimate a million instances of perjury happen a day in the U.S., whether it be with private documents, government documents, or in court, where Individual instances of people lying.
	Maybe it's a complicated document and you don't see the clause there, and that's how they trap you up.
	Exactly. It's kind of like, you know, when you talk to the FBI, we find something factually wrong, like Martha Stewart, they didn't send her to jail for insider trading.
	They sent her to jail because they claimed that she had lied to the FBI, that type of thing.
	So that is a very serious charge.
	Is this a Soros district attorney?
	One of our listeners wanted to ask.
	It's a... It's...
	Not a Soros district attorney, but it could be.
	It's a big tech district attorney.
	He's been there since before Soros started that movement.
	And he is going after her precisely because she would show up at these forums and she'd say the things that were very unpopular.
	She'd say things about illegal immigration.
	She's a legal person.
	Legal, legitimate immigrant.
	She'd say all the gamut of things that you don't expect an establishment candidate to say.
	This is why they're going after her.
	Wow. So where is it at this point in time?
	What is the status of the case?
	Yes, yes. She's been arraigned.
	She's been arraigned.
	She is going to appear back in court in early July in Santa Clara County, in San Jose.
	Wow. Well, if she wants some attention for her case, I'd be happy to give that to her.
	I know that if somebody is under an illegal trial or something, it's not wise typically for them to talk about it, but if she's got a lawyer and the lawyer wants to talk about it, and frequently the lawyers do, I'd be happy to talk about that case.
	That's something that needs to have a lot of attention because she's going to need to have Some help and some eyes on this nationally, I think.
	So, yeah, if you know her, let her know, and let her know that I'd be happy to talk to her lawyer.
	She could be there with her lawyer if she wants to do that, but I'd be happy to give some attention to her case.
	That's really amazing. But that is a key thing, you know?
	It is, I think, some of the best sheriffs would be the people who don't have any law enforcement because they have...
	Seeing perhaps the other side of it.
	And that's a perspective needs to be there.
	And clearly, you know, policy is being set by the sheriff.
	You know, he's not going out there and actually, you know, doing the enforcement typically.
	It's going to be his deputies.
	It's going to be a position or she.
	It's going to be a position where they're setting policy.
	Right. That's well said there.
	They do decide what gets to be implemented.
	So what do you think is the answer for us?
	I think you're focused on local things there in California.
	What are some of the things that you found that work?
	Because again, we don't want to just complain about what the system is.
	We want to give some people some ideas of things that they can do at the local level.
	What is it that you think is a priority for people to focus on?
	Yeah, absolutely. Thank you.
	Thank you for that. I don't like complaining either.
	And there's, I mean, it's California.
	I can complain about a lot of things.
	And part of it, I think...
	Part of what I have seen in communist lands I've visited and studied is that part of it is to encourage a brain drain to other places.
	Even though the state is to own your brain and things like that, if you're a little bit too much of a troublemaker, they kind of want you in jail or they want you to leave.
	And California is increasingly behaving that way.
	It's encouraging people to migrate away.
	I think if one were to choose...
	The most magnificent frontline to be fighting on right now.
	The most magnificent frontline to protect America from.
	I would choose California right now.
	And I don't pretend that there's bullets flying.
	It's not a kinetic war, but there's a psychological war happening.
	There's a spiritual war happening.
	And I think that I'm in such...
	I am so honored that I get to be in this situation that I'm in.
	I have no chance that I'm fleeing the front line.
	And if there were bullets flying and a friend of mine moved away from the front line instead of fighting next to me, no friend of mine would ever do that.
	I know that. But it's easier when there's not bullets flying to say, I'm just going to move away.
	I'm going to go fight the fight somewhere else.
	The People always say to themselves, you know, yeah, I don't want to have this fight, but if things get really serious, then I'll get involved.
	Of course, they won't. The more serious they become, the less likely they are.
	It's the same type of thing where it's like, well, you know, this may be betraying my principles, and it may be a betrayal of what I promised when I ran for office, but I've got to play 4D chess.
	Eventually we're going to come back and I'll do the right thing.
	But the most important thing is right now I've got to win.
	I've got to stay in office or whatever.
	Once you start making those compromises, then you're going to continue to make those compromises, especially when things get more difficult.
	You've already done it once.
	You started down that path of least resistance and you're going to stay on that path.
	So, yeah, right there at the front lines of where you are.
	You mentioned how the communists would typically put people in jail or expunge them from the, you know, Purge him out of the country.
	That's what they did to Solzhenitsyn.
	You know, first they put him in the gulag for a long time, and then they said, okay, now we're going to just throw you out of the country, because I guess it was building, the fact that he was in prison was building his reputation, so they just kicked him out.
	And most people would break in that situation.
	They don't, you know, some small percentage of people don't break, and then you got to still deal with them.
	Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's true.
	Yeah, what types of things, other lessons could you tell us from what you've seen there on the front lines?
	With what I just said, some of your listeners have fled places like California, and I don't want to When you move to a better place, I just think it's important not to take the apathy, the inaction with you.
	It's not just the blue state people moving to your special place that make it a bad place.
	It is the silent majority, if you ask me, being silent that is part of the problem instead of standing on their values.
	And, you know, as simple as, I don't know, maybe...
	If Target's a big deal to you right now, then maybe it's worth a quick call to Target headquarters.
	It's going to take you about three minutes to figure out their phone number.
	And just that they know, just that they know you're not silent, but that you have an opinion too.
	And that's not my most important point.
	It's not a big deal to me.
	It's just an issue in the media right now, how easy it is to quickly voice your opinion.
	The When in the situation I'm in, and I think the situation that many people are in, if you can be looking around you and saying to yourself, who is like me around me?
	I think this is almost the most important thing you can be doing anywhere you live if you care about liberty.
	Just asking to yourself, who that I'm encountering over the course of the day is like me?
	And when you're...
	The masks were kind of a blessing because if you were walking around and someone was unmasked in a setting where, you know, there was everyone must comply, where there was a compliance checkpoint and everything, you knew automatically that that's my kind of person.
	I gotta go... I hope you spoke to that person.
	I hope you got their phone number. I hope you said let's go have cucumber sandwiches.
	Let's go to the park.
	Let's go have our kids hang out.
	Whatever goofy reason you can come up with to want to hang out.
	And I want you to do that now.
	I want you to be looking for people like you and saying, hey, how do I keep in touch with you?
	And I know it's a weird thing to do, but you just have to be the community builder right now.
	You have to be saying to yourself, hey, how do I keep in touch with you?
	And I think any liberty loving person right now, once a month, twice a month, you should be coming up with some excuse to get together with people like you.
	And whatever that excuse is, it doesn't matter.
	Just get together. And your list of three people, two people, it's going to turn into 20 or 30 people before you know it.
	People are going to be friends. And you don't have to be an expert in anything.
	You don't have to plan any activism.
	You just get people together.
	And you get those right people together.
	Before you know it, they're going to be friends.
	Hey, this just happened to me.
	What do you guys think of that?
	Oh, well, let's go all three of us over there to talk to that manager right now.
	Let's go all 20 of us over there to talk to that manager right now.
	That's going to happen before you know it.
	Just by getting them together, you will have been promoting liberty in such tremendous way.
	If you can invite, if you can introduce five people to each other this year who didn't know each other otherwise, you will be doing phenomenal things for liberty this year.
	That's right.
	Yeah, that's what Jack Lawson talks about in his book.
	He said, you know, we get together in the neighborhood.
	And, you know, we just get together for a social event or whatever, but you start to get to know people who are going to be like-minded, people who are interested and say, well, you know, when everything hits the fan, what are we going to do to protect ourselves around here?
	That type of stuff. And it gradually builds from that.
	But it's just getting involved with people at the local level.
	In his particular case, he's kind of focusing on people who are geographically close.
	But, yeah, especially during this last three years, you see somebody without a mask.
	I probably should have run.
	Of course, I didn't see too many people that were like that before we were.
	But somebody who's not wearing a mask, you go over and try to get their phone number.
	That's a great idea. I love that.
	Love that idea. Yeah, go ahead.
	This thrust in modernity is, so much says to us right now, and I think COVID-19, it's not an exception.
	Some people like to point it as like, wow, that was such a big exception to the past.
	We've never done anything like this before.
	I think the truth is, for many decades, In the United States specifically, there's been this push toward modernity where we are to, you know, when you go to the grocery store and you check out, there's a human being there checking you out.
	And you are supposed to perceive them much like you perceive an ATM machine or much as you perceive a bubblegum machine, a gumball machine, where you say, I give it this input, I get that output reliably.
	And that's how the interaction is supposed to go.
	You know, that person's, until there's smart enough computers to replace that person, that's what it's going to be.
	And that's inculcated from us from a very young age, you know.
	Totally. This increasing paranoia throughout my entire life, largely kind of in a...
	Organically in the sense that local news, people who watch the local news, they would always lead with a bleeding story, right?
	And it could be a crime that was committed across the country, but they would pick it up and they would talk about it.
	So it would be this perception that you're living in this crime-ridden area and everybody starts getting increasingly paranoid.
	We're afraid to go out and go trick-or-treating.
	We're afraid to have our kids go anywhere.
	You know, when I was little, we went everywhere.
	And we had bicycles and we went all kinds of places.
	That was shrinking up, and now you don't see any kids out playing in the yards or doing anything.
	And sometimes if you do, they get CPS called on them.
	And so there's been this kind of withdrawal.
	Everybody's staying in their house, everybody being isolated, and technology has only accelerated that.
	And that is also another thing coming out of Silicon Valley, the fact that they want to have us all connected only through their portals, that they can watch and control everything that we're doing.
	And I think that is by design, but it is certainly a bad experience.
	And it really escalated during the lockdown, the fact that people are going to be disconnected from each other and connected only through the technological channels that they provide for us.
	And this here, what you just said, this to...
	The real fight against this corona communism that came into place around the Ides of March 2020, I believe the real fight there, we can focus on individual mandates and we can focus on who's in office.
	These are useful things to focus on, but the broad picture there is what you've just described, that There is this absence of community and connectedness that has become an increasing kind of encouragement from the world to let mom die alone.
	Thanksgiving is an evil thing.
	Being with family is an evil thing, right?
	There's all these pushes that became more magnified in COVID-19 but existed.
	And when I say get the number of the person similar to you and then be that person who makes sure you get a few folks together once a month or so, twice a month, when I'm saying that, I'm asking you to take this bigger picture and to start rebuilding that community.
	That's right. Yeah, when you look at some of the ridiculous and hypocritical restrictions that they had, okay, you can go to a casino, but you can't go to church, right?
	And that went to the Supreme Court, and Neil Gorsuch was just talking about that.
	Well, what is it? If you look at the—there certainly isn't any medical reason for that, to distinguish between those two.
	But you can go to a casino because you can sit there and interact with a slot machine.
	But you don't want to go to church because then you're going to be interacting with humans.
	That was the real agenda behind all of this stuff.
	The isolation of each and every one of us because that's the way that they control us is when they cut us off from everybody else.
	And so we need to create a herd that has immunity against that, don't we?
	Yes. And this is a danger.
	I tend to...
	Put myself in a libertarian or a conservative camp.
	And this is...
	When you take some of those ideas to an extreme, there is this ultra-focus on the individual that can leave you a lone wolf.
	When really, like, the idea of individual rights, it's within the context of the community.
	And how... If you are merely a lone wolf, you are just waiting for the opportunity for someone to come along and take those rights from you.
	If you recognize yourself in the context of community, if you're constantly building those networks around you, then it's just not going to happen.
	You're there to protect others.
	They're there to protect you. That's right.
	Yeah, I remember an interview I had once with J. Ward Griffin, and he said, you know, we need to, as libertarians, people who value individual liberty, we need to learn how to act collectively for individual liberty.
	And that's a hard thing for us to understand.
	The left, because they're always talking about, you know, collective this and collective that, they call themselves communitarians and so forth.
	But it's really not a solution, just as we saw with public health.
	Public health is not about the health of the individual.
	If you focus on the health of the individuals as individuals, then you will have public health.
	You'll have a healthy community of healthy individuals.
	But if you focus on this abstraction of quote-unquote public health, that is a...
	A license for these people to run roughshod over each and every person.
	That's what I was saying throughout this whole lockdown.
	It's like if you're going to trash the individual health of each individual, you don't have any.
	This public health thing is just a useful abstraction for control of people.
	I like this word abstraction you're using.
	There's a common public health degree is MPH, Master of Public Health.
	I challenge any member of your audience to find anyone with an MPH degree.
	I know one person that fits this.
	I challenge a member of your audience to find anyone with an MPH degree who is not heavily indoctrinated in Marxism or some very similar view of the world.
	It is... Public health is, from its very roots in the 1870s, 1880s, is meant to be an attack on individual liberty.
	That is, it is not about health.
	It is about using that in order to attack the individual.
	Yeah. Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah, that's the way they do it. You know, the communists say, yeah, we're good.
	Everything for the common good.
	No, from each according to his ability to each according to his need.
	That sounds wonderful. You ask a lot of people, you know, where did that come from?
	Doesn't that come from the Bible or something?
	It sounds like a great principle, but it doesn't work.
	Because it's all about empowering an elite group of people, you know, in a particular case like these, that's their religion, you know, but it's a false religion and they don't live up to it, right?
	Well, what other things have you found that might be helpful in terms of local organization?
	Yeah, there's this in...
	Late 2020, a friend of mine who spends half of his year in Portland, half of his year in Puerto Rico, he said, hey, are you involved with this group, People's Rights?
	And I said, I have no idea what you're talking about.
	And this guy...
	He gets me involved in all kinds of stuff, and he is three steps ahead of me on the next cool thing.
	And a lot of people think I'm really early to the next cool thing.
	This guy's really... He's my source for how to get the next cool thing.
	And just every few months, he'll say, are you involved in this yet?
	And so he mentioned this peoplesrights.org to me.
	It's not my organization.
	It's an organization I became involved with.
	I've found them.
	I've interacted with hundreds of organizers and thousands of Activists and individuals and people just trying to get through the checkpoint and trying to see their doctor with no mask and things like this since the Ides of March 2020.
	Lots of my readers are constantly asking, you know, write me with, what do I do about this thing now?
	And so this peoplesrights.org, it's not...
	It doesn't have a specific political agenda.
	It's not trying to do anything to organize people to go rally around a cause other than if government ceases to protect your rights.
	And we know government has long ago ceased to protect rights.
	Government exists almost entirely to seize our rights at this point.
	The if government ceases to protect your rights, then you can't be alone.
	You need to have some insurance policy.
	You need to have some mechanism to be protective of your own rights.
	It is incumbent upon you to protect your rights.
	So if government is not who you can turn to, if that phone call to 911 is almost pointless in certain situations, then you need neighbors that you can turn to.
	Yeah, I talked to Emin Bundy about that because I think he started that up in Iowa.
	I talked about that in 2020.
	And I thought it's a great idea and it really did work well up in Idaho when they have somebody, you know, they have a medical kidnapping case or something like that where, you know, somebody's had a baby and they, well, you know, we want the baby vaccinated and you don't want a baby back, so we're going to take the baby away from you or something like that.
	They would put out a call and everybody would show up and they would start to protest and they would get these people to back down.
	And, um, So it's very effective.
	Does it work well in your area?
	Because I signed up for it when I was in Texas, and I never heard anything from anybody, and I didn't have the time to take over.
	I know that they've decentralized this, and he didn't want to run some kind of a national organization.
	So he just wanted to set this thing up and say, hey, you can sign up for this here, and you can sign up to be a coordinator, and all this other kind of stuff, and we'll get in touch with you if there's something.
	I never heard anything back from them on that, but...
	In Idaho, they did.
	And it's all very dependent on whoever the local coordinator is and if they want to get active.
	Is it working there in your area there in California?
	It works where there's coordinators who step up.
	And with what you just described, there's so many people.
	I bet if I looked at your area right now, I bet I'd find 100, 200, 300 people who've signed up.
	And there's probably no local organizer.
	That's the only reason. Or maybe someone stepped up as an organizer and not doing anything.
	There is... Just anyone listening to this, I think you should sign up for the organization.
	I think you should consider it insurance policy, peoplesrights.org.
	I think you should say to yourself, if I don't have a local organizer right now, I'm going to go do it.
	And have a meeting.
	Send a note out. Get some people together once a month for whatever your excuse is.
	Whatever hobby you're into, just put a note out saying, hey, come do this hobby of mine with me.
	Let's get together and meet each other.
	And you do that.
	You do that. A few times, you're going to start to get a personality for who's interested in things locally.
	And the goal of the organization is 10 neighbors in 10 minutes.
	That 10 minutes after you put a call out, hey, public health just showed up to close down my business.
	I closed the door and told them, give me a few minutes.
	Can you guys show up and help me?
	10 minutes after you put a call out, you're supposed to be able to have 10 neighbors there.
	And it takes a lot of organizing to make that happen.
	But it is in...
	In my neck of the woods, we have a strong people's rights group.
	I don't know if we can get 10 people in 10 minutes.
	Probably the right situation we could, but it takes a lot of organizing to get there.
	It takes a lot of building. It takes a lot of community time to do that.
	That's right. Yeah, there's nobody that's going to do it for you at a national level, and again, it was a great idea that Ammon had.
	They had it working very effectively in their area, but it does require you to be the crew.
	And that's it.
	You know, it's like Buckminster Fuller said, there's no passengers on Spaceship Earth while on Spaceship Liberty.
	There's no passengers.
	Everybody's crew or you don't have it.
	The whole thing just crashes and burns.
	So you've got to be the crew to make these things work.
	It reminded me very much of Homeschool Legal Defense Association.
	That was a little bit different.
	You paid to be in that, and if you had a situation where somebody attacks you because you're homeschooling or something like that, some kind of a CPS attack, they would give you legal advice.
	You could call them up, and they would be there on the phone, and they would talk to the people and say, Now you've got to lay off, and they would actually give you legal representation.
	And so it was a collective thing like that.
	And, you know, maybe that is the missing thing on the peoplesrights.org.
	Maybe they need to have some kind of a financial skin in the game to help people to organize this.
	I don't know. But it is a great idea.
	I agree with you. You've just recently worked on something in the case for Robert Kennedy, you said.
	And you got a PDF copy of that where people can find that at realstevo.com.
	That's S-T-E-V-O, realstevo.com.
	Let's talk a little bit about Robert Kennedy.
	I agree with him on so many different things, on CBDs.
	And specifically, let me say real quick, if you go to realstevo.com, you can sign up for my daily email newsletter.
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	C-A-S-E. And the book is The Case for Robert Kennedy, so that's why it's case.
	If you go there, I'll give you a PDF of the book for free.
	You can get it on Amazon too, but...
	If you want the PDF for free, take it.
	Let's talk about it because, you know, Gerald Slenty that I talk to frequently is a big fan of him because of the war issues and things.
	I agree and appreciate the fact that he's spoken out on CBDC, and I think it's very important that we got people in both political parties speaking out against that.
	He's been there on the jab stuff, on CIA, of course, and now talking about free speech.
	But on the other side of that, and let me ask you about this since you've written a book on him.
	And I said this from the very beginning.
	I said, you know, but it was like 10 or 15 years ago, and climate is a big issue for me because I see that as an opportunity for them to take everything away from us using the scare tactics of the climate.
	It's amazing how similar that is to what has been done with the pandemic.
	As a matter of fact, I call them both MacGuffins because it really is just, they got the same objectives, but they just give you a different motivating factor.
	And with climate, I fought with these people to try to get their, I was with a group that tried to get their data.
	You know, okay, you've done this research and we're creating public policy on this.
	You've already published it. Let me see your data.
	Nope, can't have it. And so a lot of the similar stuff that we saw with all the pandemic lockdowns and everything, And so there's other issues with RFK Jr.
	in terms of things like climate, in terms of things like guns.
	Of course, there's other issues that are important to me like abortion, parental rights and religious rights versus the attacks that are coming from the LGBT. I'm not really sure where he is on those things, but especially starting with a free speech thing.
	I wish that he would come out and clarify that and say that he disowns those remarks about locking people up that are climate deniers and things like that in the past.
	What is your take on...
	What's your read on that?
	I know that he very well may have changed because of all the censorship things and the attacks that were done to him over free speech, but he needs to say it, I think.
	May I speak generally about objections to him and then get specific about this one?
	Sure. So, I believe...
	I like Donald Trump for 2024.
	I want to see...
	I'm going to sound crazy right now.
	I want to see Donald Trump get his third term in 2024.
	I think that's good for the American people.
	And I'm not trying to say Donald Trump's president right now.
	I'm not making that argument.
	But I believe the 2020 election cannot be...
	It is not a legitimate election that took place.
	And that's from watching elections in many countries, observing elections in many states over 30 years now.
	I like Trump in 2024.
	If I am to...
	Look at the political terrain.
	What happens all the time is that we have globalist shill number one versus globalist shill number two, and that's what every election year looks like for many years in the past, going back many years.
	I want to see American dinner table candidate number one versus American dinner table candidate number two.
	I have watched how Trump running has been so formative on the Republican Party.
	The Republican Party is structured in a way that makes it ideal for takeover by the grassroots.
	The Democrat Party is structured in such a way that makes it very resilient to take over by the grassroots, unfortunately.
	But Trump Trump has inspired people in a way that I've not seen in some time to go be that grassroots to go take over their local parties.
	And that's happening in a lot of ways.
	And I believe RFK, RFK Jr., being the Democrat nominee, will have a similar impact on the Democrat Party.
	There's lots of reasons that I can say RFK is not my dude.
	But if I'm to look at the landscape and I imagine a future where it's Trump and RFK challenging each other, This is going to be...
	It will reshape the political landscape and pull it away from this globalist shill model that has become the norm.
	So that's my general argument.
	Even though there's many reasons to disagree with the guy.
	Now, should we go into the global warming a little?
	Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm...
	And my audience knows that I'm not...
	I was done with Trump in 2020.
	I can't forget that.
	I can't look past that.
	You can look at it as either a total betrayal or a total failure by him of having any spine to stand up to anything.
	It was such a failure.
	I could not support him again.
	So that's why I'm looking at other policies that are out there.
	Again, I think, as we spent most of the time talking, Can I agree with you?
	I believe the worst year in American history, arguably worse than what happened during a single year of the Civil War, took place in 2020 under Trump's leadership.
	I want to agree with you entirely.
	Huge, huge failure.
	I agree, yeah. But, you know, and again, we spend a lot of time talking about local activism and other things, you know, peoplesrights.org.
	That type of stuff, I think, is really what we need to focus our efforts on.
	But I think we need to understand, you know, where the threat is going to be coming.
	And I think it's a different type of threat depending on who is going to be winning the election.
	And I think it's important for us to have a discussion about the policies as well.
	So, yeah, go ahead and tell us a little bit about the individual issues or whatever you want to talk about with RFK. Go ahead.
	To speak to your local organizing, the impact I've seen of Trump has been inspiring people locally to be more involved.
	And the involvement I've seen after that, one woman came to me, for example, a huge San Francisco liberal, total atheist, militant atheist, She said to me one day, in 2020 I came to Trump.
	In 2021 I came to Jesus.
	This impact I see at the grassroots I think is very important.
	RFK has a similar kind of grassroots Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah. Yeah. Where he talks about the out-of-control bureaucracy.
	And he talks about corporatism and that type of thing.
	You know, big pharma. And that really is what he's focusing on.
	I think that is a very good thing for people to hear.
	He's... Even though he has difficulty speaking, he's a very eloquent speaker if you look at the content that he has to say.
	I thought it was interesting when he was being interviewed.
	I think it was Russell Brand who interviewed him.
	And he said, I talked to Ron DeSantis and he said he wanted to burn the CDC and the NIH to the ground.
	And I thought, well, that's kind of interesting.
	And he said, but I would take a more surgical approach.
	I thought, yeah, that is kind of more of a Democrat way of looking at it.
	Let's preserve the institutions and try to reform them, but we've got to keep them there.
	And then Ron DeSantis' reply to that, he said, well, I was actually much harsher than that in my comments.
	He didn't even back down on any of that.
	He said, I was much harsher than that.
	And RFKJ replied to it and he says, that's true.
	And so there is a kind of openness and an integrity that's there with RFKJ to come back and say, yeah, that's true.
	He really, that's what he said.
	And, you know, not this kind of partisan hatred that you see or mocking that is so characteristic in so many different ways.
	So I think that's interesting to have those kinds of conversations.
	And I think it is an interesting approach as somebody that has fought The pharmaceutical industry, the vaccine mandates, and that type of thing is so hard to come back and say, well, I think I can still reform these things.
	I don't know. That's kind of interesting.
	What do you think of that? And he says the same about the CIA that killed his uncle when he's nine years old, kills his dad when he's 14 years old, right?
	He grows up with no dad.
	He goes through the next...
	Decades of his life with a lot of difficulty.
	He had a lot of support around him.
	You know, he's a Kennedy. He had the trust fund and everything.
	But just imagine.
	That can be a snare, you know.
	That is a bad thing to have that much wealth and fame and everything.
	That's yet another type of test that's put onto you as well.
	And he really did struggle with that.
	But yeah, that is interesting because he did say the same thing about the CIA. Yeah, yeah.
	That wouldn't burn it to the ground or would change it, so...
	He sees the evils in the system, certainly.
	I think all of us come around at our own point to how much we're able to reform and how much needs to be burned to the ground.
	I think that he's...
	I think sometimes he speaks about things being burned to the ground, and sometimes he's really more of a reform kind of guy.
	And that's just like you said.
	That's a Democrat kind of perspective.
	I agree. I don't expect him.
	He also talks about FDR being great.
	Right next to me, I'm teaching a class today.
	It's starting today. It's Conceived in Liberty by Murray Rothbard.
	This is the most radical representation of what happened at the American Revolution.
	It's a class, American History for Activists.
	I am not...
	No FDR for me.
	No big government solutions.
	I understand. No, no, no.
	I agree. You bring up Russell Brand.
	He's a funny guy. He gets some stuff right.
	I'm like, ugh. I know.
	Well, it's important for us to look at all the different options, and it does cause us to think about, well, what is the right approach?
	Should we burn it to the ground? Should we try to fix these things?
	Maybe we ought to try the Constitution.
	That would be an approach we could take.
	But thank you so much.
	It's great talking to you.
	And Alan Stevo, the website is realstevo.com.
	If you go to forward slash case, you can see him making the case for Robert Kennedy.
	Thank you so much. Before we run out of time...
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