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The David Knight Show - 05/25/2023

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	Transcription by CastingWords You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Wednesday, the 24th of May, year of our Lord, 2023.
	3.
	Actually, it is Thursday, the 25th of May.
	But we have a lot of news that's happened over the last 24 hours, so much so that I forgot what the date is.
	No, we are going to take a look at the Santa's announcement on Twitter.
	I've got a different take on this.
	Yeah, it was a bit of a disaster, but I think more so for Twitter.
	And there was a very interesting interview that DeSantis had with John Stossel that we're going to take a look at.
	A lot of content in that.
	But we're also going to take a look at what is happening in the war.
	Was NATO beaten by a restaurateur and a bunch of convicts?
	Is there a second Russian Revolution coming?
	And when we look at default, it turns out it's yet another characteristic of a fourth turning.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	And we're also going to have, in the third hour, in the third hour, looking forward to talking to Guard Goldsmith, He's going to be our guest. And at the midpoint in the show, we're going to be talking to Tony Arterman about all things financial.
	And there is a lot of financial news out there.
	So yesterday, it was 6 o'clock.
	It was supposed to be an announcement, an interview with Musk and DeSantis.
	And there was a lot of talk leading up to it about how Musk was displacing Murdoch.
	Now, Twitter was moving away, you know, basically replacing Fox News.
	And it was widely put out by Axios and other people.
	Drudge put it up there.
	And, of course, Drudge does not like Fox News.
	He didn't like them when he worked for them.
	He knew what they were about.
	And, quite frankly, Fox News has been faux conservatives.
	I used to spell it, Fox News, F-A-U-X, because they've been faux-conservatives.
	And Rush, and not Rush, Drudge knew that, right?
	He did the baby Samuel picture so that he could get out of his contract with Fox.
	He knew that they would fire him if he showed a very powerful picture that was pro-life.
	They're not conservative.
	Never were. I've said that for the longest time.
	He looked at it and he said, well, talk radio is predominantly conservative, so I will go in with a liberal channel.
	And took in Alan Combs.
	If you remember him in the early days, it used to be Hannity and Combs, and they would debate each other.
	But it crashed and burned.
	It wasn't that the world was waiting for liberal talk radio.
	The world didn't want liberal talk radio.
	The world wanted conservative news.
	He gave them conservative news on Fox, somewhat, that was limited hangout.
	Tucker Carlson is a limited hangout as well, but far more conservative than what they have there.
	So if you look at what's just happened in the last month after they fired Tucker Carlson, their ratings have plummeted.
	In many cases, they're below even Newsmax, which is surprising because, you know, CNN has tanked.
	Again, people want conservative news, so they're going to Newsmax rather than to CNN. And then you've got Tucker Carlson saying that he's going to put his program on Twitter.
	I wonder if he changed his mind yesterday.
	That's the thing. They said, I look at this...
	And there's a lot of information that did not get out there about DeSantis with his failed launch on Twitter.
	He had a subsequent interview with Trey Gowdy, which is, you know, typical Fox tripe.
	But he had a very good interview with John Stossel.
	They talked for almost an hour.
	And it was, you know, John Stossel engaged him on a lot of different issues.
	And it was very interesting.
	And I've got some excerpts from that and some quotes from that.
	So that was really where the meat of it was.
	It was when he finally got back onto Twitter for a little bit.
	He read a prepared statement, rushed it through.
	It was just everything about it was a disaster.
	As a matter of fact, the hashtag was disaster.
	By the time I got on Twitter looking at what was happening with this thing, it was a disaster.
	And so when you look at that, that's one of the things I'm surprised that nobody has done an article about.
	And that is, Tucker Carlson is really going to do a new version of his show on Twitter?
	They crashed and completely crashed Twitter with 600,000 people.
	I don't think that it can support Tucker Carlson's audience of millions, or more than a million.
	It's not ready for primetime.
	The not ready for primetime players, that's what they used to call the Saturday Night Live crew at the beginning, right?
	Well, that's what we saw yesterday.
	They're not ready for primetime players, and it's not ready for Tucker.
	It certainly isn't.
	Now, Ben Shapiro and The Daily Wire said that they're going to put their entire slate of podcasts, many of them videos, on Twitter.
	Beginning at the end of the month, we've already started doing that.
	And the reason that I got the blue checkmark, and we started doing it as of yesterday, as a matter of fact, the videos that we cut out of the three-hour show, you know, we cover so many different topics, and it's so long that I will put in the description time codes to link to where we put in where we go to a different topic or something like that so people can find it in a three-hour show but still we cut out shorter clips you know
	anywhere from two minutes to 20 minutes and we post them up on the video sites as well and twitter does not like you linking to video sites they do everything they can to prevent it And so we decided, well, what we're going to do since, you know, with the blue check mark, I think you can put up like an hour of video in a link.
	And that's not what we're doing with the show.
	We're streaming it. And that's a different thing that kind of comes in.
	But, you know, in terms of just uploading the video.
	So the full show is there. It's streamed live.
	And then we will put the cuts up on Twitter.
	The rest of them, the rest of the places where we are, we will post links to where the videos are.
	But anyway, they're going to do that at the Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro.
	And so it was kind of a bust because they weren't able to get this thing through.
	But again, I think the real takeaway from it It's not the bricks that are being thrown at DeSantis.
	When I went there, the Trump campaign had already produced a ton of memes of people doing silly stuff with DeSantis' head, you know, mapped to it and Trump's head mapped to the other characters, you know, as they do. They had been waiting for him and they really did it.
	I got to say, you know, they did a great job in terms of ratioing the The announcement.
	They just completely took it over with their people on Twitter.
	But there is some substance to be talked about with some of this.
	Conservatives aren't just defecting to Twitter.
	They're throwing grenades at Fox News.
	This article talking about how Twitter was going to replace Fox News.
	Well, not just yet. The Daily Signal that is owned by the Heritage Foundation.
	I talked about this a couple of days ago.
	It was the leak of the employee handbook showing how they're doing all the gender stuff and everything at Fox news.
	Uh, Matt Walsh says Fox news is fully woke on trans ideology as he saw this stuff.
	But Fox news replied and said, well, these are the laws that are mandated by the cities and the States in which we work, including New York and California.
	Well then move, right?
	You don't have to do that kind of stuff.
	If you go to Tennessee, uh, But that really does reflect the true heart.
	And where is this stuff coming from?
	Well, it's coming from a leak, an employee leak.
	Some of the articles even mentioned that there were former people who had worked for Tucker Carlson.
	This is a war of leaks between Tucker Carlson and Fox News that is happening here.
	And you're going to see a lot more of that from both sides.
	So when you look at the size of their audiences, Twitter has grown to 55 million this year.
	People who are on social media, Fox has dropped to 66 million.
	So they're getting close to each other in size.
	But of course, you can't really compare the social media interactions with people sitting there watching the news.
	And of course, now is what we've seen with this release last night.
	Is that Twitter's got a long ways to go to get this thing to work so that they can replace cable news.
	But it really has turned into identity politics and celebrity news.
	That's what the presidential race really is.
	It's always been about horse races, all these polls.
	At this point in time, absolutely meaningless, but look at the amount of headlines that are put out there about these polls.
	And of course, it is ridiculous to even think that it's going to make a big difference with the president.
	But it is important to have these policy decisions.
	It is important for the American people to understand what's going on with things like CBDC and that type of thing.
	So with that in mind, you know, a couple of days before the official announcement, you had the interview John Stossel did with Ron DeSantis, and you'll find it at his website, Stossel TV, but it's also on Reason.
	He said, recently we sat down for an hour interview.
	I started by praising him for keeping Florida largely open during COVID-19.
	Again, he did more.
	He did it earlier than anybody else, but he didn't do enough, in my opinion.
	But they get into a very interesting back and forth.
	Stossel defending people.
	He says, yeah, I don't believe in the masks anymore, I guess.
	But he says, what if a business owner wants to require everybody to wear a mask?
	Or what if he wants to require his employees to wear a mask?
	And so it's an interesting back and forth as to where they draw the line on individual liberty.
	DeSantis said, I just had to make a decision as a leader.
	Are you going to worry about the daily news cycle?
	Are you going to worry about your personal popularity?
	I didn't know how it was going to work out politically, but I was going to do what I thought was right.
	And, of course, the media just savaged him over all of that, if you remember.
	But, of course, he was right, and he stuck it out, and that's to his credit.
	And they've done the same thing with parental rights.
	Well, so don't say gay bill.
	No, it's about parental rights.
	And they try to characterize the removal of pornographic books for children in schools and libraries.
	I want to call that a book ban.
	No, it's not a book ban. We have always said you can't give pornography to kids.
	And we're right to do that.
	No apologies for that.
	Even though I... You know that I support the First Amendment.
	But I oppose censorship, even censorship of hate speech.
	We're talking about pornography for kids, and we're talking about you make a different set of rules for kids.
	By the way, when we talk about propaganda and things like that and hate speech, that ought to be prohibited for kids as well because they're not able to discern that.
	For adults, it's hard enough.
	And you need to have the ability to debate.
	That's why I don't want to make it a crime.
	Which, unfortunately, DeSantis has done.
	Twice now. For a foreign government.
	But when it comes to Propaganda.
	And when it comes to hate speech and lies and things like that, yes, the kids do need to be protected from it.
	That's why you don't put them in school.
	Because somebody's going to be lying to them about everything.
	I mean, the textbook, it's a textbook case of propaganda because that's what textbooks are all about.
	It's about taking events in history or whatever and slanting it to their opinion.
	But it's taken a really absurd turn when you look at what is happening in Florida.
	You know, the NAACP saying, well, Florida is not safe for black people.
	It's like, give me a break.
	They've just sunk to such a low level of absurdity.
	Anyways, talking about the pandemic, he went on and said, since the pandemic started, Florida gained more than 500,000 jobs, said Stossel.
	He said, my state of New York lost more than 200,000 jobs.
	Florida opened schools quickly.
	As a result, kids suffered less learning loss.
	Well, actually, they got back in time to get the CRT propaganda and the LGBT grooming, didn't they?
	DeSantis also banned the mask mandates.
	And this is interesting, the back and forth with them.
	DeSantis said, some local police departments were going to fine people We kneecapped them with our clemency power.
	Do you remember that? I thought that was a great move.
	And it showed real creative thinking, a lot of the ways that he pushed back against the cruise industry, against school boards, against police departments that were involved in tyranny.
	He said, well, okay, they can go out and fine people, and I'll just forgive it, and you won't have to pay it.
	So I was like, why? That really did kneecap it.
	What's the point of going out and giving somebody a fine?
	If he's going to just erase it.
	Which is what's happening in the Democrat cities with real crime, with real violent crime.
	The police are starting to look at this and say, well, if we catch people and we bring them in, the district attorney is just going to let them loose, so what's the point, right?
	We do want people arrested for that, but not fined for not wearing a mask.
	He said, no penalties for wearing a mask or not.
	It's your choice, he said.
	And so then John Stossel says, well, your choice is a great thing.
	In his comments here. But DeSantis' laws and executive orders often limit choice, he said.
	Today, no Florida business may require its customers wear masks or show proof of vaccination.
	And so he said, so I pushed back on him.
	I said, but if it's my business and I'm scared, why can't I do this?
	Let me just say here that, you know, John Stossel, who I've always respected his work and I like his work generally, I don't always agree with him on things.
	And here's where I think it's a big blind spot for reasons.
	The big blind spot for Reason and for the Cato Institute and for libertarians in general is they don't realize that corporations are doing the bidding of the government.
	They are the deputized state.
	It isn't some small businessman saying, for the most part, that could happen, right?
	But it isn't some small businessman who's saying, oh, I'm scared.
	I want to make sure all my customers wear masks.
	Look, if that person is that scared, they're going to not open up.
	And if they're foolish enough to believe that the masks are going to save them from a real disease, if they think it's a real disease, they're not going to be able to stay in business.
	They're just too stupid to succeed.
	But that's not what's happening.
	This is being done by corporations doing the bidding of the government because they want to ingratiate themselves to the government.
	It's just another form of ESG. We call it M-E-S-G, Medical, Environmental, Societal, Government, Governance.
	It is currying favor with the government.
	And that was what was happening with this.
	And that was the giant loophole.
	And by the way, I told everybody, yeah, if Trump gets reelected, they said, you better hope that Trump gets reelected, because if Biden gets reelected, he's going to mandate the vaccines and the masks and all the rest of the stuff.
	And I said, well, we saw the masks being mandated everywhere, and Trump kept encouraging that, funding that.
	I said, with a vaccine, he'll do the same thing.
	And they'll roll it out through the companies.
	As opposed to doing an executive order.
	And I said, we'll actually have a better chance of stopping this if we have Biden doing an executive order.
	Because then people see it for what it is.
	They see it as a hard tyranny in your face instead of this soft tyranny.
	So that is what Stossel and Reason and Cato and other libertarians do not see.
	That this is a form of tyranny.
	They don't see the connection.
	They think that businesses and government are these two polar opposite things that they never mix with each other, that business can never do anything wrong, government can never do anything right.
	And of course, you know, the Democrats are just the opposite.
	Well, you know, government can never do anything wrong.
	And businesses can never do anything right.
	Corporations can never do anything right.
	It's not that simple.
	And what they both miss is that they have merged into a kind of corporate fascist governance.
	So, he tries to make his case that businesses are people too, right?
	Now, DeSantis doesn't go there where I go.
	When people make that argument to me, Yeah, but we got the rights of the business versus the rights of the individual.
	The rights of the business versus the customers or whatever.
	Or even the employees.
	And I say, well, you know, a business, a corporation, is a government construct.
	It's created by government.
	People, on the other hand, are created by God.
	People have rights.
	Governments create these businesses and corporations, and they have privileges.
	Government-granted privileges.
	It's a very different thing.
	If the government grants those privileges, the government can take those privileges away.
	But a corporation, as an institution, does not have rights in the same sense that a person does.
	And so, he says, but if it's my business and I'm scared, why can't I? said John Stossel.
	And DeSantis says, well, you do have freedom to choose, but so do individuals.
	In Florida, we just consistently sided with the individual.
	So you've got to decide who you're going to go with.
	Are you going to go with business or are you going to go with bureaucrats?
	Libertarians will go with business and a lot of conservatives.
	But for the most part, the Republican politicians, as well as certainly all the Democrat politicians, will side with bureaucrats.
	And who represents the individual?
	Well, we don't even care about that.
	Individuals are the problem.
	Individuals have to be controlled.
	John Stossel says, but people who own businesses or who want to be surrounded by masks are individuals too.
	Well, it used to be the case when I was working in the Libertarian Party, we'd have this saying, and we'd say, you have the right to swing your fist all over the place if you want, but your right to swing your fists ends with my face.
	Well, guess what? So does your paranoia end with my face?
	Your idea of slinging your paranoia and projecting your fears ends with my face.
	You don't get to put that on me and your mask.
	You think a mask works?
	You wear it. I'm not wearing a mask for you or anybody.
	I've seen this for three years and still the libertarians don't get it.
	Well, I tell you, I've had so many arguments with people over this, more than I've had over anything else in my life, this mask stuff over 2020.
	I've never, I don't, I never have any confrontations with people in a business or a restaurant or something.
	I had nothing but confrontations.
	Businesses, restaurants, banking branches and everything.
	You don't get a right to tell me to project your fear onto my face.
	End of story.
	There's nothing else to talk about here.
	Man, I tell you, why can't they understand this?
	And so then, you know, John Stossel, still excited about this mask, right?
	And it is. It is important.
	It is a symbol, an avatar, whatever you want to call it, for individual liberty.
	And he just doesn't get it.
	But DeSantis did.
	He said, so why can't parents choose a school with a mask mandate?
	DeSantis says, because it's irrational.
	He said hysteria took over the evidence-based analysis.
	The policy shouldn't be based on fear.
	Well, that's not how I would answer it, but I'll just say this.
	What would John Stossel and these other people say if a business said, get out of here, you're gay, I'm not going to serve you?
	What would he say about that?
	I don't know where they are on that.
	But we have all kinds of restrictions that we put on businesses.
	Or get out of here, you're black, I'm not going to serve you, right?
	What would he say about that?
	So Stossel said, while mask mandates were often irrational and possibly harmful to children, one size fits all rules are harmful too.
	That's his final say on all of this stuff.
	Yeah, let's just play along with the OCD stuff, the insanity.
	Even though we know that they don't work and we know that they're harmful, especially to children, let's just go along with it.
	You know, if people want to do that, they want to harm children, they should be allowed to harm children.
	They should be crazy and, you know, we should embrace the insanity here of the last three years.
	Anyway, he said, then I changed the topic to immigration.
	He said, last summer...
	DeSantis flew 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard, a stunt meant to expose the hypocrisy of places that declare themselves sanctuary jurisdictions.
	And of course, you know, Martha's Vineyard is the, you know, a hive of very wealthy elitist liberal Democrats.
	He said, liberal elites don't ever face any of the consequences, said DeSantis.
	Towns in Texas are getting overrun.
	Dassel says media called his stunt cruel.
	A lawyer for migrants criticized DeSantis for not phoning Martha's Vineyard so that even the most basic human needs and arrangements could be made.
	So he said, I read that to DeSantis, and here's what he said.
	DeSantis said, do you think those Texas border towns are having people call ahead?
	So that's why I said, this is, and I'm going to play for you the part about the CVDC. But the interesting thing about it is that it was not scripted like this silly thing on Twitter was.
	Or even scripted to the extent that, you know, a Trey Gowdy interview on Fox News was.
	You know, he challenged him on some of these ideas and disagreed with him.
	He was fair in it.
	And, you know, I disagreed with Stossel on the mask stuff, certainly.
	But the Santis went on to say, most of those people that went to the Vineyard were thankful to be in that area.
	Yeah, it was the people who were there that didn't like them being there.
	Not in my backyard, they said.
	They were not treated well by Biden, he said.
	And then he goes to the next topic.
	He said, today's favorite media hate Santis topic is parental rights and education law.
	Critics smear it by calling it the Don't Say Gay Law.
	Stossel writes, the law bans classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity.
	He quotes from it. That's what it's about.
	Transgender or probing some student's sexuality that is not appropriate for the schools, we're going to leave that to the parents to discuss, said DeSantis.
	But it can come up, I say.
	How far does the ban go?
	Can a gay teacher, a gay teacher could say that he is gay?
	DeSantis said, our law doesn't affect that.
	And he also explained that the decision of whether to teach sex education is made at the district level.
	And John Stossel said, good.
	Well, I would say it needs to be made by the parents.
	And I guess the parents have made that decision if they're going to abandon their child to the state to raise, right?
	Think about that.
	Anyway, he said, I asked, doesn't school choice solve this?
	Parents who want kids taught about gender things could have that.
	And Santa said, well, some private schools do teach that, but when you're talking about what the taxpayers are funding, you just have to make a choice.
	Understand, this is the problem with vouchers.
	Right now, the choice is one that you may agree with as a conservative.
	If we're going to give state money to the schools, then we're going to tell them that they can't do grooming of kids over this transgender issue.
	But that's going to change.
	And it'll change in ways that you don't like, because we have seen that happen throughout the 20th century.
	It continues to get worse. You know that the liberals who have taken over every institution everywhere...
	Are going to take that over.
	If we give them the power to do that, if you give them the power over you by taking the money, then of course they will make those bad decisions for you if you also give them your kids.
	And even if you take your kids to a private school and you've got a voucher, they will make those decisions for the school with the voucher.
	At first it'll be free.
	They'll let the conservatives come in and set this system up and everybody will say, this is great.
	We get to choose what we like and we like what's happening with this.
	And then the liberals will come in after everybody gets used to the money, and they think they can't live without it.
	You know, they'll look at this and say, well, you know, that's 50% of my budget, maybe 80% of my budget is coming from, maybe 100% of it.
	What am I going to do if they remove the funding from me?
	I have to do everything that they say.
	That's how that's going to run.
	And right now, the danger is, with all these school choice vouchers and all the rest of this, anything...
	That is going to be funded by the government, they will ultimately control.
	Right now, they're in the rope-a-dope stage.
	Remember, the internet used to be the Wild West in terms of free speech, as they like to criticize freedom.
	Oh, it's the Wild West.
	It's like, yeah, that's why I like Westerns.
	But... They will tighten that noose.
	Anyway, he said they cut the interview a little bit short, but he said, I've got the whole interview here.
	Here's his final take on it.
	And I do want to go to what they said about CBDC, because I think that's very significant.
	He said, I like some of the things that DeSantis says and does.
	But I also worry that he's an authoritarian, said John Stossel.
	In any case, he's definitely smarter and better than both Trump and Biden.
	So let's go to what they had to say about CBDC. And I cut this out as a clip because I wanted you to see the back and forth.
	There's a lot of content. I don't want to read all this to you.
	But here is DeSantis being questioned by John Stossel on CBDC.
	Finally, here's the issue DeSantis most wanted to talk about.
	Central Bank digital currencies.
	The world is going to see a functioning CBDC very soon.
	Digital currency.
	The media make it sound like it's a great thing.
	Well, if you don't care about your privacy and you want the government to have even more control over the economy than maybe it is.
	But I think most people don't believe that.
	When you use your wallet to pay for something, the Fed would take the digital cash out of your wallet and deposit it into the merchants.
	What they want to do with the central bank digital currency, part of it is they want to displace all cryptocurrency because they can't control that.
	So they want to get rid of that.
	They want to move to a cashless society, which would basically mean the Federal Reserve, Treasury Department would have supervisory jurisdiction over all of your transactions.
	And so they would know what you're doing.
	I think when you see that from a privacy perspective, very, very concerning.
	But then when you see what else is all going on in our economy, they're trying to do things like ESG. They want to impose ideology through the economy.
	And so what will end up happening with the central bank digital currency, all those views are going to be superimposed.
	And so it'll be a situation.
	You're filling up too much tank of gas.
	Wait a minute. Climate change.
	You can't be doing that. You can't be buying.
	You bought another firearm?
	No, no, no. They'll control the transaction.
	So I think it'd be a total disaster.
	Sometimes government does things that may appear to be benevolent, but really are kind of like a wolf in sheep's clothing.
	This is a wolf coming as a wolf.
	I mean, if you don't trust central authority, then you should see this immediately as something that is very problematic.
	But a lot of people do trust central authority.
	And let me let you take these one at a time.
	I'll read from the president's executive order on responsible development of digital assets.
	This will protect consumers, investors, and the environment.
	I think that that last one's a tell because I think they would impose certain criteria with digital currency.
	And the thing about cash It's cash's independence.
	You have the cash in your wallet.
	You can go. You can make these transactions.
	It's not dependent on somebody else.
	It's private. It's private.
	And I think you look at not only what they would do to maybe misbehave with this power, but just think about if we had all digital currency, you have like an EMP attack.
	We have hurricanes that come through Florida.
	It knocks out power. Explain EMP. So EMP is an electric magnetic pulse.
	And the idea would be it can fry basically all electronics if done powerfully enough.
	A bomb set off and the atmosphere might knock out all this stuff.
	Yeah, absolutely. And that's a huge concern anyways because we're so plugged in on all this stuff with our society.
	But you add the central bank digital currency and you're a cashless society.
	You know, you're running huge, huge risks there.
	So I think that the dangers so, so far outweigh any proposed benefits.
	We looked at that and said, that ain't going to fly in Florida.
	I'm proud that we're going to be able to sign this protection in the law.
	This will be a national issue.
	Why is it the business of a governor?
	Well, I think it will be a national.
	So you read from Biden's executive order.
	So they're, quote, studying it.
	The Federal Reserve has come out and said, well, we don't have one yet.
	And we would only do it after, quote, consulting with the legislative and executive branches.
	Ideally, we'd get specific congressional authorization.
	Wait a minute. It's not ideal that you get Congress.
	That's what the Constitution requires.
	So if you want to do this, you would need to get it through both houses of Congress.
	I'm confident that the Congress would not do that right now.
	So I think what we did at the state level is protect Floridians against a unilateral action by either Treasury or the Federal Reserve.
	They do not have the authority to do that.
	They absolutely would need Congress.
	And so we're leading the pushback.
	I think Texas is going to do it as well and some other states.
	And so, look, this is part of our role.
	Federalism is about, there's a back and forth between the federal government and the states, and so we're pushing back against things we don't think are good, and I think it's having an impact.
	Absolutely. And we need to do a lot of different things at the state level.
	And there's a lot of things that can be done at the state level.
	He changed the UCC, the Universal Commercial Code, to say this is not going to be accepted as payment.
	We're not going to accept central bank digital currencies from the federal government or from a foreign government as payment for anything.
	And as he said, that may be overturned by Congress, but we need to do what we can do.
	You know, try to do what we can. To put obstacles in the way of this juggernaut that wants to take everything from us.
	It is really key. And of course, we can get to a global ID and that kind of slavery in a lot of different paths.
	But as I've said before, the most direct path to all of this stuff, the thing that is the straight there the most quickly, is the CBDC. So we don't want to be focused exclusively on that, but we need to understand that that's the thing that could get us there the most quickly, and everybody is focused on that as well.
	I thought that was a very interesting back and forth.
	I think that's one of the reasons why John Stossel, even though he disagreed with him on immigration and some of these other issues, it's why he said, well, he's a smart guy, and he'd definitely be better than both Trump and Biden.
	And he's right about that.
	But I wanted to play the second part of this.
	This is a shorter clip. This is how they finish up in their CBDC discussions.
	As trusted as cash, as convenient as a payment app, yet also benefit from the same blockchain technology which underpins cryptocurrencies.
	CNBC. Digital money can make cross-border payments easier, promote financial inclusion, And payment system stability.
	Well, it's interesting, though.
	When I raised this in Florida saying we're going to disallow it in Florida, which we can do if Congress could overrule us on that.
	But I think if the Fed tried to do it unilaterally, I think our prohibition would be sufficient pushback.
	And when I started doing it, I started talking about some of the dangers from privacy and all that.
	The corporate press, all these outlets, they all of a sudden started converging that DeSantis is trying to promote conspiracy theories.
	He's saying this. They basically hate you.
	Part of that is true, but I think part of it is this is something that they care about.
	And the question is, why would these organizations care so much about a central bank digital currency?
	Is it really because they are really that invested in cross-border transactions?
	Of course not. It's because this is something that could help them advance their ideology of having more central authority and more supervisory power over the average American.
	Elizabeth Warren says legitimate digital public money could help drive out bogus digital private money.
	Well, I think she clearly would be somebody that rejects any type of digital asset that's not controlled by a central authority.
	That's consistent with her philosophy.
	But America's going to fall behind.
	Wall Street Journal. The U.S. financial system is still pretty old school when it comes to moving money around.
	And that's not a great way to run a modern global economy.
	Oh, please. I mean, I think that we fared very well.
	I think that we do.
	And oh, by the way, there are opportunities for people to do different things, and they don't like some of those other things.
	They don't like Bitcoin. They don't like some of these other things.
	And if digital is so good, why are you opposed to that?
	And the reason is they don't control it.
	That's why they don't like it.
	Excellent discussion. And, of course, John Stossel agreed with him, as I do, about the CBDC. So, again, we have an RFK. Jay has been very eloquent about defending both crypto and opposing CBDC. We need to have those voices there.
	That's the important part of this campaign, frankly.
	Regardless of who wins or loses, we have to have this campaign.
	This is what's going to wake people up, perhaps.
	If we can get this before enough people to get them to understand what is involved with this.
	We're going to take a break, since we've gone for about 40 minutes here.
	We're going to take a break, and when we come back, there was a couple of other things that they talked about in terms of what parts of the government DeSantis would want to shut down and how he would do it, because we hear this all the time from Republicans, right?
	Yeah, we heard it from Rick Perry when they're running for president, but they never do anything about it.
	Ronald Reagan, even. We heard it from him.
	So we're going to talk about that when we come back, because there are some other issues that I thought were very important as well.
	And so stay with us.
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	Well, as I said, they did talk about immigration besides the stuff about, you know, shipping migrants to Martha's Vineyard.
	They got into a very long discussion that I'm not going to get into about, you know, work and immigration, which I was really surprised about.
	Neither one of them talked about the welfare aspect of it.
	That's the key thing.
	You know, when I talked to the criminologists last week, About the wave of immigration that happened at the end of the 19th century, the beginning of the 20th century.
	They had so many people coming from Ireland and from Italy and all these other places.
	They were sleeping in the police stations.
	They didn't have any social safety net whatsoever.
	But it turned out okay.
	They went through a rough period of time.
	But only people who had high hopes, expectations, and a desire to work hard and succeed came to America.
	They came for freedom, not for free stuff.
	There wasn't any free stuff. You're going to earn every penny.
	And so you had a lot of people who were willing to start all over again just to get to a free country.
	That was what made America strong.
	So it's not restricting their work that is a solution to this.
	And it certainly isn't putting E-Verify on everybody.
	Just as good as DeSantis was, this is what infuriates me about this whole election process.
	You can have somebody like DeSantis be spot on about CBDC and yet do it through the back door with E-Verify.
	Oh, I don't have to have the government's permission to buy something, but I do have to have the government's permission to earn money.
	Is that what it is? I've got to prove to them that I'm an American citizen?
	No. Shouldn't have to do that.
	The real issue is not making people prove that they're a citizen and can work.
	The real issue is that we don't give welfare to anybody, but especially, especially to people who are not citizens of this country.
	They're already citizens somewhere else.
	And they can't come here and get a free ride.
	That's the problem. It's the welfare magnet.
	We don't do anything about the welfare magnet with E-Verify.
	As a matter of fact, what it does is it discourages people from working.
	So, all right, you're going to have to get our permission to get a job.
	I'm not going to give it to you. Well, what do I do now?
	Well, here's a welfare check.
	I mean, it's just so backwards with all that.
	So anyway, they talk about the deficit.
	John Stossel says...
	The biggest issue, I think, facing America is that we're going broke.
	Let's talk about that. Florida certainly isn't you.
	You have a surplus there.
	What would you do if you were president?
	I mean, entitlements are bankrupting us, and yet they didn't talk about entitlements during the immigration thing.
	Why should a foreign citizen here illegally be entitled to anything from the American government?
	It's just absurd.
	And so he replies and he says, you know, Florida, we have the second lowest debt per capita in the country.
	Our economy is $1.2 trillion.
	Our debts are $20 billion.
	You know who has what state?
	They're the second lowest state in terms of debt.
	You know the state that is number one in terms of the lowest debt per capita?
	Tennessee. I talked to Senator Nicely.
	As a matter of fact, we're going to have him on on Friday.
	And so we'll talk about the CBDC. We'll talk about the UCC stuff.
	We'll talk about the fact that with this group of Republicans that they've gotten in after about 160 Democrats, they got rid of taxes and they got rid of debt at the same time.
	How did that happen? I think the state government here in Tennessee certainly isn't perfect as we see what's happening with Bill Lee.
	And Bill Lee is going to call the legislature back in August to harangue them over some feel-good gun control measures.
	Gun control measures that will make the elitist in the entertainment industry there in Nashville that is hectoring Governor Lee.
	I guess he just can't go to a party anymore without getting somebody.
	You know, dropping an olive into his plate about, you know, what are you going to do about gun control?
	So, but it is pointless and it's actually going to hurt the support of the Republican Party, which is a shame because they have done a good job, a better job than most of the states in terms of financial aspects, taxes and spending and things like that.
	And so, you know, DeSantis has a lot to say about that.
	He says, and this is true, he said, if you just go back to the amount of spending that Obama proposed in his last budget, it would be a dramatic reduction in terms of what they are actually spending now.
	And they're not satisfied with what they're spending now.
	That's the whole point of trying to raise this debt ceiling.
	Because they want to go further and further into debt.
	He said, just cut it back to the size that it was under Obama.
	Why doesn't Biden want to do that?
	And then he goes on to, they talk about some of the departments that he would like to get rid of.
	John Stossel says, so there's entire departments that you would get rid of.
	The education department, commerce, agriculture, other ones like that.
	And we've heard this before, haven't we?
	We've heard it so many times.
	You should be skeptical, cynical about this.
	As a matter of fact, you know, the Department of Education was created in an election year, I believe, by Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan campaigned on getting rid of it, but even Ronald Reagan didn't do that.
	It would be interesting to see if DeSantis would.
	DeSantis said the Department of Education should be a state issue, right?
	It should not be a federal issue.
	And you can see what they're trying to do.
	It's to get involved in youth sports with the transgender athletes.
	Again, that's how they do it.
	You know, they control your schools, your curriculum, and everything else by the purse strings.
	He said Republicans, and he's aware of the fact that Republicans have promised to get rid of the Department of Education.
	He said they've promised that for a long time, but they've never delivered on any, any reduction.
	So yeah, let's reduce some of the agencies.
	I think that that would be what would really be positive.
	And so he said, which ones?
	And he goes, well, education certainly would be one.
	I mean, I think commerce, there's a lot of bloat there.
	He said, I also think the executive does have the authority to fire more people than we've been led to believe.
	I mean, you can't have a situation where someone can get elected president, and yet the other side controls the entire executive branch with a bureaucracy?
	That's the whole point, and Vivek Ramaswamy has made that point as well.
	He goes, you're saying that these people work for the executive branch, but the executive branch can't fire them?
	That's ridiculous. You need to challenge that assumption in court if necessary and, you know, do a full Andrew Jackson if necessary.
	Well, I've seen the court make their opinion, but let's see them enforce it.
	I'm firing them. End of story.
	I mean, you know, you have to get up to, but I guess they'd call you authoritarian if you did that.
	No, you would actually be resorting to the authority of the Constitution is what you'd be doing.
	You'd be authoritative.
	And you would have authority on your side.
	Anyway, he said, so the other side is going to control the entire executive branch with the bureaucracy?
	So I think asserting more authority there, some of that may be directly firing, some of that may be reclassifying employees like a Schedule F so that they can be fired.
	But he said...
	That would save money, besides stopping the bad stuff that they're doing.
	Because, he said, what we have right now is a fourth branch of government with a federal leviathan, meaning the bureaucracy.
	And they do what they want.
	And they almost kind of laugh at the idea that we're having these elections.
	Because they don't give a damn who's voting for who.
	They're going to do whatever they want.
	Unelected, unaccountable.
	We have taxation without representation.
	We have regulation without representation.
	It is embodied in the bureaucracy.
	That is under the executive branch.
	Why didn't Trump do anything about the deep state?
	He was head of the deep state.
	Didn't do anything. Didn't do a thing.
	He belly ached about it.
	I feel your pain.
	That's the Clinton thing. I feel your pain.
	I know, isn't it awful?
	And I'm going to keep it going.
	He said, and then John Stossel said, in departments like agriculture, agriculture just happens.
	Why do we need it? Well, DeSantis said, well, it's been a situation where there's all these different programs that have kind of been built up over the years, so we're stuck with them.
	He says, I think it's been something that's been difficult in Congress because, you know, there's a certain way of doing things.
	Now what with that, so they really got a lot of support, so I don't know that that would be something that you'd get a lot of visibility on.
	But I do think things like energy, he said the energy department, why was that created?
	What is it doing?
	I think it's really turned into an anti-energy department.
	That's what it is. Take a look at the EPA. It's not protecting the environment.
	It's prohibiting everything.
	Like I said before, it's not the Environmental Protection Agency.
	It's the Emissions Prohibition Agency.
	That's all they have been focused on for decades now.
	And they use this McGuffin of unicorn fart emissions to tell us that they have to ban this and ban that.
	It is, you know, the anti-environment.
	Anyway, they're going to take everything from us and the environment.
	And then they get into the, he actually plays the ad that Trump did about the fact that accusing DeSantis of eating pudding with his fingers.
	It's juvenile nonsense.
	But they use that as a metaphor to say he's sticking his fingers into Social Security and the rest of this stuff.
	He said, well, DeSantis said, well, it's interesting, you know, he wrote a book saying that the retirement age should be 70.
	He wrote a book, or he had somebody else write the book for him.
	But that was what the book said.
	Maybe Trump didn't read his own book that somebody else wrote for him and put his name on it.
	I don't know.
	But he said retirement age should be 70.
	The people shouldn't even retire and all this other stuff.
	He said, look, I'm the governor of Florida.
	We got a lot of elderly people.
	You think they'd be voting for me if I wanted to get rid of Social Security?
	But he said, we also have the responsibility to say, you know, what's it going to be like 10, 20, 30 years down the road?
	He said, we're not going to pull stuff away from people who are already invested in it.
	And Stossel said, so, they reported that you're a slob who eats pudding with your fingers.
	He says, yeah, anonymous sources, right?
	That's what the media does.
	They try to smear, but that's the worst they can come up with.
	I guess I must be doing okay.
	Tried to smear him with pudding.
	Actually, it's Trump who tried to smear him with pudding.
	So, then they talked about military adventurism and, you know, wars abroad.
	DeSantis said, well, you know, in Syria, we went there first for weapons of mass destruction.
	Then, when that wasn't there, we went after the terrorists.
	And he says, and that's fine.
	I don't know. Anyway, but then we changed it to creating a democracy, and that is not in our hands.
	So if you're going to use the military force, you've got to have a concrete idea of what you're trying to accomplish, and there's got to be a clear sense of victory.
	He certainly does understand the situation.
	Whether we could trust him on this or not, I'm not certain.
	I do think that he would be amenable to war.
	Just my gut feeling.
	Just my gut feeling. I do know that Nikki Haley would take us straight there.
	Just like CBDC is going to take us straight to global governance with currency and global ID, Nikki Haley would take us probably even faster into an extended war.
	I've never seen anybody other than John McCain and Lindsey Graham who love war more than Nikki Haley does.
	That's one of the things that gives me pause about Tim Scott, the fact that he was appointed by her, that they have a relationship as well.
	Anyway, then they talked about the drug war a little bit.
	He said, well, we should end these foreign wars.
	And so John Stossel says, so why not end the drug war?
	Which has been going on for 50 years and hasn't accomplished anything.
	And DeSantis, I disagree with him on this.
	He said, well, look, I mean, I think we're in a new era with this.
	We have the rise of fentanyl.
	Oh, see? There's always going to be a new boogeyman out there.
	John Stossel says, Prohibition didn't change anything.
	We didn't learn that we created Al Capone and that there are no more gangs anymore shooting at each other over alcohol, right?
	And then DeSantis comes back and says, yeah, but I think the difference between that is like the country had this proud tradition of drinking.
	Well, here's the reality of this.
	It wasn't about beer.
	It was about beer and wine and things like that at the beginning.
	But with the short-lived alcohol prohibition, it very quickly went to very dangerous forms like wood alcohol that was making people go blind because they were making it without any oversight or any concern because, hey, it was illegal anyway.
	And it changed people.
	They... The vast majority of people had been consuming things like beer and wine, and then they went to hard liquor.
	Why? That always happens with prohibition.
	Besides creating organized crime that gets increasingly violent and giving them a monopoly, we created Al Capone with alcohol prohibition.
	Drug prohibition has created the cartels.
	And, of course, the CIA loves it.
	That's the real reason this stuff is happening.
	But you're always going to get more concentrated forms of everything.
	Even more concentrated, more dangerous forms of marijuana.
	But look, you want to talk about the country having a proud tradition of drinking?
	Well, I guess you could say we've got a proud tradition of taking drugs.
	Because for 50 years, that's what people have been doing.
	They've been getting harder and harder drugs during Prohibition.
	And they've been doing it for 50 years in spite of the Prohibition.
	And the Prohibition, as much as I hate drug addiction and I hate alcohol, that Prohibition is not the answer to any of those things.
	Government is not the answer to every problem.
	And these are spiritual issues, first and foremost.
	Secondly, they're medical and psychological issues.
	And finally, they are not law enforcement issues.
	And we've got 50 years to prove that.
	50 years of this program and it hasn't done anything with this.
	He said, you know, these things like, we've got things like heroin and fentanyl and this stuff.
	Those have always been prohibited.
	No, they weren't. Cocaine used to be available.
	Cocaine used to be put in Coca-Cola.
	You could buy heroin over the counter in the early part of the 20th century.
	Did we have the kind of crime problem and drug problems that we do today?
	You want to prohibit some drugs?
	Prohibit SSRIs like we talked about yesterday.
	You want to talk about what's really dangerous?
	Talk about the pharmaceutical stuff.
	I think it is every bit as dangerous, if not more so, than the stuff that they're trying to interdict that the CIA is putting into our country.
	We'll be right back. You're
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	I've got a couple more things that I want to talk about before I leave the politics arena.
	Because I think it is interesting.
	And it really does concern me, this lockstep movement.
	Behind Trump. The guy who, as I pointed out yesterday, not only did he...
	Look at this pistol brace thing that is hanging over the head of three to five million people, according to the ATF, becoming felons for having these pieces of plastic.
	An executive order by the executive branch bureaucracy that is out of control, that we're just talking about.
	And the precedent for that was the bump stock.
	But... Now, this is much bigger than the bump stock, as I said yesterday.
	It affects 80 times more people than the bump stock prohibition.
	But Trump put in a pistol brace prohibition himself in 2019, and it hung over everybody's head.
	You had the gun rights groups fighting with him, gun owners of America and others fighting with him over that.
	And he didn't remove that.
	Until December 2020, between the election and January the 6th, he removed that for his own personal reasons, frankly.
	But he's down on gun control.
	He's for it. You saw him sitting at the table with Schumer and Feinstein, saying, what do you want?
	I think we can do that. I really want to make you, you know, yeah, he wants to make them happy, just like he wanted to make the pharmaceutical companies happy.
	You know, going down the list, what would you like to have?
	Well, we can do that. I think we can do a red flag gun.
	We can take the guns and do the due process later.
	And of course, he had his pistol brace there hanging over everybody's head for about a year and a half before he took it down for his own popularity sake.
	This guy does not, Trump does not support the Second Amendment.
	And I don't understand how these people can just disconnect From what the man has actually done as president, Benedict Donald, and cheer him like they do.
	He's getting up nearly 70% of the Republicans that they ask in these polls.
	Now, I know they can rig the polls, but they can't rig them that much.
	He's overwhelmingly popular with people.
	What is a matter with Republican voters?
	Because if they're that blind about this preening narcissist...
	They're going to be easily fooled everywhere else on the ballot.
	Have absolutely no discernment, no interest in principles or issues.
	So, one of the things, you know, Trump went nuts before DeSantis' announcement.
	And in the wee hours of the morning, he's firing off a bunch of stuff.
	Disloyal! Disloyal!
	All uppercase stuff.
	It was actually kind of funny.
	I made this guy.
	He's nothing without me.
	It was me. I did it all, right?
	Well, he did help him with that endorsement.
	I don't think he would have won without that endorsement.
	I know it's a close race.
	But you know what? After he was governor for four years, it wasn't even close.
	It wasn't even close.
	Based on what he did, Ron DeSantis isn't running for president based on Trump's endorsement of five years ago.
	He's running on his record of being governor for four years and the fact that he did more and did it sooner than anybody else.
	And every time I say that, I say, you know, there's things that he's done that I don't agree with.
	You know, the hate crime stuff about anti-Semitism speech and things like that that he went to Israel to sign.
	I strongly disagree with that.
	And I wish that he would have gone further and done it sooner.
	But he still did a better job than anybody else.
	And that's why he had so many people move to Florida.
	That's why he did so well in the re-election thing.
	And you can't take that away from him.
	Trump tries to do that because he is, say it with me, a deeply wounded narcissist.
	Incapable of acting except out of his own perceived self-interest or revenge.
	Revenge right there.
	So, as they're looking at it, they said, one time swing state has now taken on a shade of red.
	DeSantis won a 19-point victory in his 2022 re-election bid, flipping Democratic strongholds, while the Senate was being lost everywhere else based on the endorsements of Donald Trump, you see.
	That's why DeSantis was, right after the election, more popular than Trump was.
	And that's why Trump hates him so much.
	Republicans, and also because he, you know, is real competition to him.
	Trump is playing so nice with Tim Scott.
	Welcome, Tim Scott.
	Good luck to you. All the rest of this stuff.
	He doesn't see Tim Scott as being any competition for him.
	Matter of fact, he probably sees Tim Scott as somebody who could soften the edges of his brutal narcissism if he were his vice presidential candidate.
	And I think that's what that's really about.
	Republicans now hold supermajorities in both chambers of the Florida legislature, and for the first time since Reconstruction, there is not a single Democrat in statewide elected office in Florida.
	That's what DeSantis did.
	But Trump was very upset, and Mediaite, which is a left-wing news site, had a lot of fun with it.
	They said Trump kicks off DeSantis' launch day with a first of many posts attacking fellow Florida man.
	They don't like DeSantis or Trump, so they call them both Florida men.
	That's become a meme, of course.
	Look... He said, Ron DeSinctimonious came to me asking for help.
	He was losing badly by 31 points to Popular Agricultural Commissioner Adam Putnam.
	He was getting ready to drop out of the race, ran a terrible campaign.
	Ron told me he had one last chance.
	My support and endorsement, which Putnam and everybody else wanted.
	I gave it to Ron and the race was over.
	And one day he went from losing badly to winning by a lot.
	With a, all uppercase, large Trump rallies.
	He won the general election.
	And then all uppercase, with three exclamation marks behind it, disloyal!
	Why doesn't he say that about Tim Scott, right?
	He helped Tim Scott get re-elected, but he says, good luck.
	Oh, I love you, man, you know.
	It's just, he's so transparent, isn't he?
	I just can't understand the support of Trump.
	And then he follows up.
	As Mediate says, Trump then dismissed DeSantis' chances for winning the general election.
	And he says, this is the follow-up tweet.
	Ron DeSantis can't win the general election or get the nomination because now we go to all uppercase.
	Screaming. Voted to obliterate Social Security even wanting to raise the minimum age to 70 or more.
	Voted to badly wound Medicare and fought hard and voted for a 23% tax on everything sales tax.
	This is Trump's projection again.
	It was Trump who said minimum age of 70 in his book.
	He goes on to say, he was and is a disciple of horrible rhino, Paul Ryan, and others too many to mention, and he desperately needs a personality transplant.
	And to the best of my knowledge, they're not medically available yet.
	A disloyal person!
	And the media says, we really seriously considered using the headline, quote, Trump admits he is unaware of a personality transplant.
	Ha! Being available, right?
	Because he certainly could use one himself.
	If anybody needs a personality transplant, it is Trump.
	Trump then returned to his all caps format because he thought that was a compelling way to get his message out and that it would not be unhinged at all.
	And so this is all screaming and uppercase because he's just getting himself worked up.
	And this is the wee hours of the morning.
	I built the greatest economy in the history of the world.
	There you go. See? He did it.
	This is one of my pet peeves, by the way.
	This is something that Democrats and Republicans do.
	They take credit for what the economy is doing in general.
	The best thing they could do is just get out of the way.
	But they never say that.
	They say, I built it. I built it.
	I did it. And I've heard this forever.
	I mean, it's not just Trump. And it's not just Obama.
	Obama did it more explicitly than anybody else did.
	You know, when he said, you know that business you got?
	You didn't build that.
	We built it.
	We built it with our infrastructure.
	We built it with this and with that.
	Republicans do the same thing.
	Everybody harangued Obama.
	Over that narcissistic statism, but hey, Republicans do it as well.
	I built the greatest economy in the history of the world.
	No inflation, energy independence, and soon dominance.
	The strongest border ever.
	I'll give him the inflation stuff.
	I'll give him the energy independence stuff.
	But the border?
	Total failure, Trump.
	You had a door in that wall that was about 1,500 miles wide.
	And people are going over the wall.
	I just played for you yesterday the clip of the little four-year-old being dropped.
	First they dropped an older child.
	Then they dropped the four-year-old who was lost consciousness in a bad way.
	And the Border Patrol was filming it when they went out to help this child who was obviously lifeless and passed out.
	They got shot at from the wall.
	Yeah, tell us about your wonderful wall.
	And that's in a place where the wall was built.
	Most of the places he didn't put a wall.
	So even, regardless of what your policy is about immigration, the border wall is nonsense, and he never fixed it.
	Never fixed it. Record best employment numbers, biggest tax and regulation cuts.
	You should add there for Wall Street, for Wall Street Trump.
	That's who you did the tax and regulation cuts for.
	You destroyed Main Street America in 2020 with your lockdowns.
	Oh, he doesn't talk about 2020.
	He said no wars with Russia, Ukraine, or China, Taiwan, or anywhere.
	Anywhere? What are we doing in Syria?
	What were we doing with all these other wars?
	I talked about the fact that we had seven wars.
	Trump didn't end any of them.
	He didn't even leave from Afghanistan.
	You know, he harangues Biden for the way that Biden pulled out.
	And yes, it was idiotic.
	But Trump had four years to withdraw in an orderly, reasonable way from Afghanistan.
	He didn't do it. Didn't do it.
	I kept all those wars that, all those seven wars that Obama had.
	You see, that's an outright lie.
	Anyway, he said, the U.S. was respected all over the world.
	What else can I say?
	And then he pauses for a second and comes back with another all-upper-case scream, followed by three exclamation marks, election interference.
	As they say, he follows up with a non-sequitur.
	No, it's not a non-sequitur.
	It's only a non-sequitur if you don't understand what this is.
	His whole mindset is.
	And you can say it with me.
	He's a deeply wounded narcissist.
	That was the whole point of all of those tweets.
	Disloyal! Disloyal!
	That's my big problem. I made that guy.
	He was one of my apprentices.
	I made that guy.
	And he went on.
	And the student has become the master now.
	What's the matter with this guy?
	Disloyal! Disloyal!
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	In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	Let's talk a little bit about the war because I think there was some...
	Not only did Bachmut fall, but the statements that have been made now about the guy who runs the Wagner Group have been pretty amazing.
	And there's a lot in these statements, a lot of truth about this, about NATO, and a lot of truth about Putin as well.
	And the fact that he could say that about Putin...
	Only underscores how weak Russia is, in a sense.
	Putin is afraid to take him out to the woodshed and cut his head off.
	I mean, he wouldn't do with anybody else, right?
	Any other person in Russia said the kind of stuff about what's going on with the Russian military, they would not get away with this.
	War? We have NATO beaten by a restaurant owner and a bunch of convicts.
	Somebody said that. This person picked it up.
	The Automatic Earth blog.
	You'll find it on Zero Hedge.
	He said, all of NATO, all 31 member nations were defeated by a restaurant owner and a bunch of convicts is how I saw someone describe it.
	That, of course, is a caricature of the situation, somewhat, because Wagner is bigger than the convicts and it is well organized, but it's not that far off.
	And that spells a serious problem for NATO. Why is that?
	Why can't a guy who's got, you know, like 50,000 mercenaries and gets another 20,000 convicts, why can he do things that, you know, the Russian army with its bureaucracy cannot do and that NATO absolutely cannot do?
	Because they're contemplating their navel and they're dressing in drag and all the rest of this stuff.
	Anyway, all those 31 members may have lots of control over their media, but in the end you can't endlessly deny being defeated.
	So what will NATO do now?
	They will double down, and then they'll double down again, and at the end of the doubling down road lies nuclear weapons.
	Not Russian nukes, he says.
	Because, as my friend Wayne wrote the other day, the high-precision hypersonic missiles make nukes look crude and primitive.
	Middle Ages territory.
	But NATO and the U.S. have never developed such weapons.
	So if they get desperate enough, they will be the ones to use a nuclear weapon.
	He says they spent ten times as much money and they wind up with bow and arrow equivalents, which is what will happen to all of us.
	We'll be fighting the next war with the bows and arrows and the stones and that type of thing, as Einstein said.
	Nuclear bombs are good only to create widespread panic and destruction, but that includes your own destruction because of mutually assured destruction protocols, which is why I go back almost as far as to the bow and arrow.
	If you fire nuclear missiles, We fire one.
	Very much like it will land on your head a few minutes later.
	End of story, end of you.
	Well, not exactly.
	As Joel Skousen has pointed out, he thinks that that is their objective.
	Because they have all their plans laid for a long time.
	Continuity of government. I've mentioned the book many times, but I would suggest that you read it.
	It was, I think it was Red Rock, was that it?
	Red Rock? The plan to...
	Raven Rock. Raven Rock, thank you.
	Raven Rock. Yeah, the plan to start nuclear war, to let all of us die and to save themselves.
	That's what continuity is about.
	Continuity of government. And they've had that since the middle of the 20th century.
	A plan to save themselves and let the rest of us die.
	And that's what Joel Skousen believes that this is.
	It's a way to get rid of the excess population.
	It is the ultimate goal of the depopulationists to have a war to destroy the population.
	It's what it's been about for a very long time.
	Anyway, he says, NATO and the collective West and their hegemony has lost.
	Hegemony equals hubris.
	The world has changed, not just this weekend, but in the nine months before, Bakhmut.
	The U.S. plotted a coup.
	They moved NATO's borders east nine years ago, and then Russia reacted exactly how they said they would.
	He said it's not only about weaponry, though that plays a major role.
	The hegemon can no longer make its demands based on military might.
	It has been surpassed.
	Nor can it make demands based on the dollar's reserve currency status.
	And it caused that itself.
	Weaponization of the currency has backfired to the extent that dedollarization has become a process that can no longer be halted.
	Yeah, that's kind of like a mutually assured destruction.
	The moment that the Saudi prince...
	MBS, Mohammed bin Salman, turned his back on Biden is a milestone, and that's when it began.
	That's the end of the petrodollar right there.
	Ukraine had perhaps the best boots on the ground force in Europe, financed and trained since 2014 by NATO, and they lost to a caterer and a loose group of hired hands.
	You're not going to win that.
	Your only option is long-distance weapons, missiles, planes, you name it.
	But NATO has no advantage in that over Russia, to put it mildly.
	He said, and don't be surprised if Joe Biden actually does send boots on the ground from the U.S. No hegemon has ever given up power lightly.
	That part, listen to this, that part of the road is yours, U.S. and EU voters.
	And you may have to fill up the streets like you've never seen.
	The rest, the majority of the world, will be waiting to see if you do or not.
	And that's why, I'll mention again, OccupyPeace.com.
	Kingston, New York, this weekend.
	Gerald Salenti's thing. You better start pushing back on this if you can't make the trip.
	I can't make the trip, but if you can't make the trip, Push back on it in some other way, but we've got to push back on this.
	Whether it is filling up streets or something else.
	But let's take a look at what the Wagner chief said.
	20,000 of his fighters killed at Bakhmut, he said.
	Putin's war has backfired.
	Yeah, a lot of hubris from this guy.
	And the fact that he can say this stuff and still keep his head is pretty amazing.
	So, PMC Wagner.
	Completely liberated Bachmut, he said, for Gozen.
	He said for the first time, made public how many Wagner fighters both participated and died in the campaign, which he previously said was 224 days of fighting.
	He revealed that the mercenary group lost 20,000 fighters in total in Bachmut, half of which were convicts who had been recruited from prison.
	Kind of like The Dirty Dozen.
	You know, we just had Jim Brown die.
	That was a movie that set him off on his Hollywood career.
	Made him leave the Cleveland Browns at the height of his career.
	Setting all these rushing records and everything.
	But The Dirty Dozen.
	Great movie if you haven't seen it.
	So I guess he had the dirty 20,000.
	I recruited 50,000 prisoners of which about 20% died.
	Exactly the same number died as those who signed up through a contract, in other words, mercenaries.
	So he's saying 10,000 prisoners, 10,000 mercenaries.
	He also continued to make remarks which will be seen as hugely provocative by the regular Russian military command and inside the Kremlin.
	He said, if PMC Wagner cannot hand the positions because the Russian army is not ready to take them over, then this means that PMC Wagner has risen to a level higher than the Russian army.
	He's going full Wagnerian on this, isn't he?
	I mean, we're better than them.
	We conquered this, and they're not even ready for us to hand it over to them, so I guess that means that we're better than them.
	He's able to say this.
	And again, if the shoe fits, Putin is going to wear it, I guess.
	If they, the army, cannot take over the positions and the persons concerned must shoot themselves, he said.
	There was only Wagner here in Bakhmut.
	He said, we fought not only the Ukrainian army here, but we fought the Russian bureaucracy.
	And as I mentioned before, he said, yeah...
	We had, they were throwing sand in our gears.
	The Russian bureaucracy.
	Anyway, he suggested in the interview that Putin's war in Ukraine has backfired.
	He said, Russia sought, this is quotes translated by Newsweek, so assume that they got it right.
	Because it's out there, and I mean, you know, they could find people to translate.
	It sounds like a Something that he would say, Russia sought to demilitarize Ukraine, but instead militarized it with some of the best weapons in the world, Rogozin said.
	Echoing the justifications that Putin gave when launching his full-scale invasion against the country, February 24th, It goes and says the special military operation was done for the sake of denazification and demilitarization.
	Thus the denazification of Ukraine, which we talked about, we made Ukraine a nation that is known to everyone all over the world.
	Ukraine has become a country that is known absolutely everywhere.
	Now with regard to demilitarization...
	If they had 500 tanks at the beginning of a special operation, now they have 5,000 tanks.
	And if they had 20,000 people able to fight skillfully, now they have 400,000 people who know how to fight.
	How did we demilitarize it?
	It turns out that the opposite is true.
	We militarized her hell knows how, he said.
	Isn't this what we have seen?
	With the American Empire, you know, we go into Afghanistan or we go into Iraq, and of course Russia saw the same thing when they were in Afghanistan.
	A war of occupation is not something that you can sustain, and it eventually blows back on you.
	He said they have a high level of organization, a high level of training, a high level of intelligence.
	They have various weapons, and moreover, they work on any systems, Soviet, NATO, anything, equally successfully, he said, of Ukraine's armed forces.
	So, in looking at what he is saying, it is very interesting that Putin is tolerating his commentary.
	He's saying, Putin got it wrong.
	We have not demilitarized them, we have made them a massive enemy.
	Not only have we kicked the anthill, so to speak, and got the people there angry, but look at how they have been weaponized.
	And the Russian military bureaucracy can't do anything.
	He's saying all this stuff.
	So Putin has tolerated him for quite a while.
	Because evidently, they are indispensable.
	And evidently, what he says about the Russian military is true.
	As they point out in this article, Zero Edge...
	What Brugosan said in his latest interview alone would be enough to get other Russian commentators or public figures arrested, killed, or at least severely censored.
	Yeah. They have been arresting journalists and even people who defend the journalists.
	You defend them, you get arrested as well.
	Just like in China.
	They do that. And that day is coming here in America as well.
	We're turning into both of those.
	Coming up to some rough times.
	And let's talk about What he says next.
	He warns of a second Russian revolution.
	Wagner Chief Progozin has warned of the potential of another Russian revolution akin to 1917 unless the strategy of the war in Ukraine is drastically altered.
	He said in a post on Telegram, That the number of casualties suffered by common people in war in Ukraine while the elites in Moscow shook their behinds, I don't know what that means, could lead to widespread unrest, and that the imposition of martial law could be required to prevent a full-blown revolution.
	He said, we are in such a condition that we could lose Russia.
	That is the main problem.
	We need to impose martial law, he said.
	First, the soldiers will stand up, and after that, their loved ones will stand up.
	There are already tens of thousands of them, relatives of those killed, and there will probably be hundreds of thousands.
	We cannot avoid that.
	This divide can end as in 1917 with a revolution.
	And by the way, remember, the 1917 revolution was happening because people were not happy with what was happening with World War I. They were in the midst of a war.
	People said, we don't like this, and they revolted.
	Against that. That was a major factor.
	The fact that a war was grinding people up.
	This divide can end as in 1917 with a revolution, he said.
	And he then claimed that some 50,000 Ukrainians were killed in the long-lasting battle in Bakhmut.
	So will there be a revolt in Ukraine as well?
	The devastation and the disregard for humanity in Ukraine has been far worse even than in Russia because the war there has been far worse.
	You see, that's the dangerous situation that we're in right now.
	That's why I've said As we look at this, we're facing in this fourth turning, revolutions, as we've seen with the American Revolution.
	We're facing civil wars, as we saw with our civil war, the next fourth turning.
	And we're facing world war.
	We get one or all of the above.
	D, all of the above is what I think is coming.
	It is absolutely insane, and you can only just shake your head and say this is like living in a dark satire.
	It really is. We're going to take a quick break, and we're going to be back with Tony Ardman.
	Stay with us. Decoding
	the mainstream propaganda.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	Welcome back and joining us now is Tony Ardobin, a long-time friend and a big supporter of the program.
	Again, WiseWolf.Gold is there to help you if you want to get gold, silver, or even Bitcoin.
	And, um... Tony has set up davidknight.gold to take you there so that he knows that you come through us.
	But it's always great to have Tony on.
	He certainly understands what is happening on the very important financial side.
	Thank you for joining us, Tony. Always great to be here, David.
	I was thinking the other day, when you were talking about the G7 meeting in Hiroshima to plan their new world order, I thought, well, gosh, Janet Yellen and Jerome Powell and all the other banksters should go to Jekyll Island to tell us what's next for the dollar.
	Yeah, I know. But the nuclear war comes first.
	I think that's why they went to Hiroshima.
	It is crazy what's happening now.
	And let me show you this.
	I know that you've got some things that you want to talk about, but I want to get your response to this.
	We know that this is coming, and they've been rolling this out in various ways.
	This is a bank out of the UK, NatWest.
	Take a look at this. Somebody took a picture of this.
	And basically what it is saying is, looking to withdraw cash, our primary aim is to keep customers safe and secure.
	Our branches follow our processes carefully to achieve this.
	This will include asking you questions about the purpose of your cash withdrawal.
	Why do you need that? We may also ask for supporting documentation, such as an invoice.
	This helps us to validate the withdrawal as genuine and protect you against fraud.
	This is all about protecting you.
	And by the way, they are going to limit the amount of money that you could take out.
	Again, this is in the UK. They're limiting it to about 2,000 pounds.
	I don't know. Maybe that's about $2,500, $2,600, I'm guessing, within a 24-hour period.
	And they have, unless you give them advance notice of 24 hours, that you're going to be taking this out.
	And then they're going to want to have a lot of documentation for that.
	That's where we're headed, isn't it, Tony?
	Oh, absolutely. There's a war on cash.
	There's a war on individual sovereignty.
	And the banks are carrying out the orders of the governments to stop the flow of cash.
	We saw that starting really here with COVID. But actually, before that with the Patriot Act, that's something they weren't able to do.
	Get the banks to monitor cash withdrawals through the years.
	They wanted to make that happen after Oklahoma City.
	It took 9-11 to sneak that into the Patriot Act.
	So the banks watched that.
	You have to make appointments a lot of times if you're going to withdraw cash.
	Banks will say they don't have cash, which shocks people because they're not used to withdrawing cash.
	I have a lot of customers that come in here and they're trying to get cash out of the bank.
	And I said, well, why don't you just bring me a cashier's check?
	I mean, honestly, people want to be more honest, but the bank's tracking you.
	When you try to use cash, you're throwing up red flags.
	And that's just the world we live in today.
	And, you know, the inverse is also true, David.
	The inverse is just as true.
	Let's say that, you know, I've been spending time in Texas, so I don't have anybody making deposits for me.
	The bank doesn't like it when I come back a week later and, you know, my staff has taken all the deposits.
	They don't like that.
	They're like, where is this coming from?
	Why is there so much cash?
	They don't like it. So again, I think it's ramping up.
	There's a war on cash.
	You ought to ask your bank, if you haven't withdrawn cash in a while, you ought to ask your bank what their policies are.
	And I will tell you also, it's the national banks that are the worst.
	The national banks, the big banks that have the cash.
	I've had good luck, and I won't say the name of the bank that I use, but I use a bank here in Missouri and I use a bank in Texas that are both real good.
	They haven't given me any real problems, but every once in a while I'll look in my account and there'll be an analysis charge of like $180 because I'm depositing cash and they have to track that and they have to fill out forms.
	So I'm on the radar.
	There's no way for me to be off the radar at this point.
	Well, and that is why they want to get rid of the regional banks and small and medium-sized banks is because the big banks will do their bidding.
	But, you know, when you talk about the cash stuff, I've said it for the longest time.
	Dennis Hastert, a guy who was a known pedophile before they even ran him for Congress.
	He was a wrestling coach. He was a pedophile.
	And then they elevate him to become the Speaker of the House.
	Stays there the longest amount of time.
	And they didn't come after him for being a pedophile.
	They said, well, statute of limitations is over.
	We'll just change statute of limitations.
	It's easy enough to do.
	Instead, they came after him for what should not be a crime, the fact that he tried to structure his withdrawals so that he would not be noticed.
	Because when he started withdrawing cash to pay to a blackmailer, Who is, you know, now grown up and blackmailing him over this.
	When he started pulling it out, they started asking him questions.
	He didn't want them asking questions about what he was going to do with his cash.
	I mean, it's kind of funny in this article from Mark Jephtovic, Tony, he says, here in Canada for the last few years, he said, even before COVID, the big four banks have been routinely asking you why you're taking out cash.
	And he says, so you can tell them pretty much anything.
	You can say, well, because I want it.
	Or you can say, none of your business.
	Or you can say, I want to blow it all on booze and hookers.
	Or you could say, if you're Dennis Astrid, I got to pay off the person who's blackmailing me because I was a pedophile.
	You know, you could have just told him that.
	And it's like, oh, okay, we can't come after you for being a pedophile, but we will come after you.
	For taking the money out in a way that we don't ask you questions.
	And that was the most outrageous thing about it.
	To make a crime out of something that shouldn't be a crime and to let the real crime skate by.
	Yeah, the irony of that, too, because he helped push the legislation for the patriarch, which is to monitor the bank withdrawals and have the banks report on you.
	That's right. Everything I do is within the letter of the law.
	I tell people, if you've got more than $10,000 in cash, I would be required to fill out a cash transaction report and send that to the IRS. I just don't take cash over $10,000.
	I don't do that. I think, again, if you're looking to buy gold and silver, you can do small amounts on cash and stay under the radar.
	That gets your legal right to do.
	But if you try to go and make a major purchase and just use cash and go to your bank every day and withdraw just under the limit and then deposit with me, you're going to get on a radar.
	It's going to happen.
	It makes you look worse. The best thing to do is just take out a cashier's check or send a wire or do something like that.
	You're already on it. I mean, they're not going to – buying gold and silver is legal.
	I mean, it's not something – you're not doing something that's under the table that's bad.
	But I would say that if you have a significant amount, you're going to understand that the bank's tracking you.
	And I don't think it really matters even if it gets – To the $10,000 mark or not.
	It's just structured withdrawals in general.
	So if I have cash, I mean, I can't play that game.
	They have to fill out a CTR, which is a cash transaction report, on me every time.
	I mean, that's what I'm doing every week because that's how much cash I have.
	But I tell people I'd much prefer a cashier's check, much prefer a wire.
	Well, of course, everybody's under their radar.
	We get under their radar when we talk.
	And that's the goal.
	And they keep extending their radar.
	Yeah. Getting more and more powerful radar and more and more antennas and receivers everywhere all the time.
	And that's what we should be – we have to not run from that.
	We have to be aware of that and realize that that is the reality of what they're trying to establish and that they're also – the purpose of this cashless society, of course, as you and I have always talked about, as we had John Stossel and DeSantis talking about it, is to push us into a CBDC. And in this article – Jeff Devick says, well, you know, that's the value proposition for it.
	As we go into this big recession, the value proposition for CBDC is going to be universal basic income, and they've already started talking.
	That is the major thrust.
	Sam Altman, the guy who is OpenAI CEO. He's a big venture capitalist, but he likes the OpenAI so much that he's made that his key focus, but his secondary focus, which may now become the key focus, It's the WorldCoin thing.
	And the WorldCoin is tied to a global ID as well as universal basic income.
	And that is a prescription for absolute slavery.
	And he is right there.
	And he was right there at Bilderberg this last week pushing all this stuff.
	Yeah, and the IMF has the Unicoin.
	You know, that's one of their prototypes.
	That's right. Ultimately, that's what the bankster class, the overlords, that's what they want is a one-world digitized blockchain currency run through their central banks.
	And it may have regional currencies that link up to it, like the dollar.
	And again, the... The issue here, and I think they'll be able to sell it with, you talked about, universal basic income.
	You have to open up your wallet, get all your biometrics into the system so that we can guarantee your identity and guarantee your income.
	But they'll also say something like, we can contract and expand the money supply in real time to protect you.
	This way, you know, we can fight inflation much better this way.
	We have all these underground, seedy things using cash.
	You know, the same thing that they say about Bitcoin right now, and they're going after both.
	They're going after cash, they're going after Bitcoin, and they're using the banks.
	And there was that big run after the Silicon Valley Bank and Silvergate, and that was bailed out by the Fed and by the FDIC. There was a run on smaller banks, and the people didn't take out, and I guess a lot of people did buy gold and silver, but a lot of people just went and put it into...
	Some of the larger banks, the five or six, there's about 6,000 or so regional banks.
	And that's what makes small business work over this country.
	And then the big banks want to consolidate those.
	So there's a lot of psychological warfare, financial warfare going on here, trying to break up and consolidate.
	And again, the goal there is to piggyback off of the big banks to usher in the central bank digital currency, which will ultimately be leading back to one currency.
	That's right.
	And that's why Senator Frank Nicely here is trying to push a Tennessee public state bank.
	But of course, he wisely is now calling it the Tennessee Reserve System, because to say we're going to have a state bank, that makes the small and medium sized banks nervous.
	They think it's something that's going to compete with them when it's exactly the opposite.
	They're going to be put out of business by these big banks and by the Federal Reserve if they don't go this way.
	But by calling it the Tennessee Reserve System, they look at it and say, well, I know how I interact with the Federal Reserve in terms of reselling mortgages and this and that, buying notes.
	And so that'd be something similar to that.
	And that is exactly the way that the North Dakota State Bank, the only one that is in existence, that's the way that it operates.
	And they have a very, very healthy compared to the rest of the nation, about five and a half times the number of banks per capita in North Dakota as the rest of the nation.
	So they have thrived in that kind of an environment.
	And the bank does not compete with them on loans.
	It is there as a secondary market if they want to sell the loans.
	And that really helps them to be able to sell that on a secondary market.
	But as you're saying, you know, there's all these different coins that are out there.
	We already have the U.S. and the EU pushing their own central bank digital currencies.
	And then you've got the IMF and the Bank of International Settlement, each of them with their own idea.
	And now you've got a bunch of globalist corporations like WorldCoin and other ones that are pushing this as well.
	It's looking like the only competition that these people have is with each other as to who's going to wind up being the one coin to rule us all.
	It reminds me of what happened to the empire of Alexander the Great when Alexander died at age almost 33.
	It didn't go and pass to one other person.
	It was broken into multiple, multiple pieces.
	I think that's what you're going to see.
	And there's an article about King Dollar up on Drudge.
	It's linked to Reuters.
	And again, Reuters getting into the mainstream is talking about detolarization, folks.
	This is why you should pay attention.
	And again, I don't think the majority of people that are tuned into mainstream media are not understanding what that means.
	You have to do a little bit of research to find out what does detolarization mean for the U.S. economy.
	And again, you just look at facts and figures, and we've talked about this before, but 2001, 75% of all global transactions were financial went on in dollars.
	2021, 20 years later, it was 55%.
	After we put the sanctions on Russia in 2022, it dipped to 47% and declining.
	We've got to be somewhere below 47% now because it's rapidly declining.
	The only reason that it hasn't completely lost all cabin pressure is because there really isn't an alternative yet.
	There isn't one alternative, but you see India using gold to buy Russian oil, bypassing the sanctions.
	The China using the yuan.
	And, of course, there's all the natural gas first on the Shanghai Exchange being done in yuan.
	So there's Brazil dumping the dollar.
	All around the world, the central banks are dumping dollars, buying gold, or getting into the yuan, or looking at a host of other currencies.
	So we're seeing the end of China.
	I think we're going to see many different realms of competition in the states.
	You talked about Tennessee.
	I think it's great when states deregulate and make gold and silver legal tender.
	There's a war on cash.
	I assume there will soon be a war on gold and silver that hasn't really made it into the mainstream where the mainstream is attacking gold and silver yet.
	But there will be a time.
	We'll see that. But to me, gold and silver are cash.
	Yeah. Because gold and silver are money.
	And more and more people, I see people accepting it.
	I mean, I'm able to make trades in it.
	It's funny, when you're in this business, I had somebody come in the other day.
	They bought a pre-1933 $20 gold Liberty coin for about $2,160 with the premium.
	And I asked them how they wanted to pay.
	It's a credit card. And I said, well, I have to charge you a fee.
	And they said, well, you take Bitcoin?
	I said, absolutely, no fee.
	Because I needed Bitcoin. So it was like a nice...
	Between us, there was no banks involved.
	You know, there's no checks. There's nothing.
	I don't have any fiat currency.
	But we just, you know, Bitcoin for gold.
	And I was able to use my Bitcoin for...
	I pay a lot of my vendors with it.
	So, again, I think that's where we need to be headed.
	Going into a...
	A system where we understand that we are our own banks.
	We can take charge of that.
	Banks are great for facilitating things like wires and being able to pay bills and things like that, but that's all that they should really do at this point, unless you're needing to leverage to get a loan for your business or something.
	But we, the people, with things like Bitcoin and with things like gold and silver and having that physical in your hand, we can become our own banks.
	That's right. That's right. Did you catch the statements from RFK Jr.
	at the Bitcoin convention?
	He had some very interesting things to say.
	What did you think about what he had to say?
	I thought it was wonderful.
	I watched the entire speech.
	I wanted to go to the Bitcoin conference.
	I just didn't have time to setting up this new location.
	But I watched the entire speech.
	I thought it was great because he also addressed the environmental issue, which I thought for sure, you know, cryptocurrency was on his no-no list.
	But when he talked about the Canadian truckers, And why he owns Bitcoin now.
	I thought that was very powerful.
	So a major presidential candidate.
	And it's not just the jab that they're keeping him out of the debates for now.
	I guess I'm pretty clear he's anti-war on a lot of levels.
	He talks about how the CIA killed his father and his uncle.
	This guy is not good for the establishment.
	I mean, I don't agree with all of his politics, but I think he's come a long way.
	You know, you've played that clip of him, what was it, about 13 years ago or so, David?
	I first started watching him, he would go on MSNBC and I talked to Joe Scarborough, or he talked to Hannity.
	He was like the resident liberal, you know, but you played him talking about jailing people for being climate deniers.
	Well, he's come a long way. I saw a clip of him the other day talking about how the climate issue, and he believes in cleaning the environment, but he says the climate issue has been hijacked by people like the World Economic Forum, like the Davos set, and being used to remake the world into their own image, and so... I think he's come a long way.
	It'd be interesting to...
	Nobody's going to probe him on that.
	I would like to find...
	What changed your mind and when did you change your mind about free speech?
	Was it when they started persecuting you?
	On the issues that he's chosen to talk about, those are very dangerous issues.
	All those, as you pointed out, to the establishment.
	And so, of course, they're going to punish him, just like they have us, to get us off of there.
	If you're going to talk about... The vaccine and war and the CIA and CBDC. I mean, every one of those checks a box.
	But what he doesn't want to talk about, and the reason he's running as a Democrat, I think, is because he hasn't talked about abortion, gun control, the LGBT stuff, and other things like that.
	And hasn't given, you know, where is he on the environment issue?
	There's still an uncertainty with me on that.
	But he did say, you know, you're not going to use the environment as an excuse to get rid of crypto.
	And he understands that that's what they're trying to do.
	They're trying to use that because that was the fourth, you know, four different areas that Biden wanted all of government to report to him on.
	And that was the key issue.
	That was going to be the excuse to shut down crypto.
	It's going to be the justification to shut it down.
	He said you can't use it for that.
	So that was a very positive thing.
	I think it was also positive.
	We talked about the political aspects of it, how it's all just about power.
	And I don't know if you noticed that he talked about Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road and said that he would seriously look at that.
	He's not going to say that he's going to pardon Ross Ulbricht like he did say that he would pardon Julian Assange.
	But he said, I would take a serious look at it and see if that isn't persecution that was happening.
	And he knows that it was persecution.
	And he knows that they came after him simply to make an example out of him for people that were operating on the dark web.
	The dark web being dark in the sense that they can't see everything that's happening because there's a lot of really, really dark stuff that happens on the regular internet.
	It's not dark from that standpoint.
	But because of Bitcoin, they wanted to come after him.
	Bitcoin as much as the dark web aspect of it.
	It reminds me, in 2019, I had a visit to my shop in San Antonio by the Department of Homeland Security and somebody from the Justice Department in Texas, the Attorney General's office, and they were looking for a transaction that went through one of my Bitcoin ATMs about a year prior.
	And we got to talking, and they didn't really understand crypto.
	So I was explaining to them Bitcoin.
	They're talking about the illegality of it, how it's used for so much criminality and so on and so forth.
	And I said, well, you know, there's a...
	There's a coin that dwarfs Bitcoin.
	I mean, there's a currency that dwarfs it.
	I mean, it makes it look like nothing.
	I mean, as far as illegality is concerned, it's used around the world, it's universal, and you can't track it because it's in paper form.
	They're like, what is it? I'm like, it's the dollar.
	It just dwarfs Bitcoin. It makes it look like nothing.
	Bitcoin can't compete in the criminality of the dollar, like not even close.
	Yeah. Yeah. So it's just that they built this myth, you know, especially around something like the Silk Road.
	I remember when I got into Bitcoin, oh, is that the drug dealer stuff?
	No good drug.
	Why would you want to be on a permanent blockchain?
	You know, I mean, there's an open source permanent blockchain to show you where the...
	is not anonymous.
	Yeah.
	Not really.
	I mean, you can protect your coins and like what, you know, RFK Jr. was talking about, about having your own wallet, having your own keys, having your own node, like having it, being able to, to, to mine Bitcoin from your home or plug in just to help the network.
	Yeah.
	That should be all of that.
	That should, that should be our right.
	And it's one of the reasons you and I talked a couple of weeks ago about the Texas digital currency backed by gold.
	I think this may be a backdoor.
	This is the alternative.
	This is what we'll jump onto.
	This is backed by gold, and it's from Texas, so it's good.
	And this would be a backdoor for the globalists to get their CBDC. I mean, we've got to be careful.
	When states come up, again, if you read history, you wonder, why is the state involved?
	In currency, I have a global gold standard.
	I have a global silver standard, especially now in today's technology with things like crypto and decentralized currency.
	When a state starts getting involved, you're talking about politics.
	It's going to bleed into the currency.
	It does now. I mean, look at who gets targeted by the IRS now.
	Are leftist groups getting harassed by the IRS? Remember when they had 2012, the documentation that came out of anything that had the word patriot in it, they were audited.
	So again, this is weaponized.
	So anytime the state gets involved in currency, I am very skeptical, if not just completely off board.
	Absolutely. Yeah, because there were a lot of people that were saying that about Bitcoin.
	They said, this is going to move us towards a digital currency.
	But that's not associated with the state.
	I think it's better to take the approaches that DeSantis did to say, well, we're not going to recognize these digital currencies today.
	We're going to change it in the UCC, the Universal Commercial Code, and say that's not a valid form of payment.
	And so I think it's better to address it that way or to address it by trying to create parallel structures like Senator Nicely is trying to do here in Tennessee to say we're going to have a Tennessee Reserve System.
	It's going to be parallel, operate parallel to the Federal Reserve because these guys either don't know what they're doing or they're trying to burn the system down either.
	Type of thing. So I think it's better to address it that way than to try to come up with a small version of the central bank digital currency, which is what they're doing.
	And of course, the same thing is being done by Zimbabwe at the same time that Texas is doing it.
	Hey, we'll come up with a digital currency, a national digital currency that will be backed by gold.
	And, you know, so they try to make it legitimate with that.
	But while we're talking about the dollar, Let's talk a little bit about the debt and the deficit and all this melodrama that's going on with that.
	I like the way that Babylon Bee put it.
	They had, Nation unsure how the government not being able to borrow more money is a crisis.
	Exactly. They'll just blow it.
	They'll send it to Ukraine. So one guy says, I can sleep better at night knowing that the government is currently blocked from borrowing any more money.
	I've been sleeping much better knowing my leaders aren't able to continue digging us into a financial hole that my great-great-great-grandchildren will never get us out of.
	That's a load off of my mind.
	Can you imagine having a printing press and still losing your credit rating?
	Can you imagine that?
	You have a printing press and you still can't keep a budget.
	I'm not afraid of the government shutting down.
	I don't know about you. I think it's fine.
	Nobody talks about cutting anything anymore.
	Nobody talks about balancing anything.
	That was like a bygone era when you had conservatives so-called talking about the budget and the deficit.
	I mean, really famously, you get Dick Cheney, deficits don't matter.
	Yeah. Yeah, well, they do matter.
	I mean, you reach a certain point.
	I mean, we've never seen this in our nation's history.
	And I know this because you can do the math.
	You can look at, okay, so debt to GDP ratio.
	It's usually 20%, 30%, 40% at the highest.
	Under Reagan, it was like 40%.
	It's 125% of debt to GDP and growing.
	You can't outrun that.
	People ask me all the time, what's gold going to be?
	This investment, what's silver going to be?
	I'm like, I don't know where it's going, but I know where the dollar's going because of math and it's not being backed by anything, which I don't want it backed by anything.
	I think they should get out of the business of currency.
	I mean, we have several ways that we can pay.
	I like the idea of import taxes.
	I like tariffs. I think the government was run on tariffs for the first, what, 150 years of our country, and now we've gotten away from that, and it's been a disaster.
	I really do feel like we are headed towards something that the country's never seen before, but it won't be these budget fights and stuff.
	A lot of stuff's happening under the radar, too, when they have these kind of stories, like this game of chicken.
	Is Kevin McCarthy really playing a game of chicken with Joe Biden?
	I mean, these are this... You know, here's the way I see this is, again, it's virtue signaling to their bases and trying to play a gotcha with the other guy.
	The other guy is going to tank the economy.
	But if you remember, after the election, when they knew they were going to have a Republican majority, there was a big fight with Kevin McCarthy trying to stop Mitch McConnell from joining with him and saying, yeah, we'll do a budget agreement.
	So he joined with Schumer and Pelosi and said, all right, here, we've agreed on a budget.
	And Kevin McCarthy and the Republicans are saying, wait a minute, you just took away our major bargaining tool for a couple of years now.
	Well, they managed to find a way to carve this back in, and they're going to use it.
	The Republicans don't want austerity, and the Republicans don't even really want a balanced budget, I don't think.
	They want to have a place at the table, a power lever that they can use, and this debt ceiling gives it to them.
	And that's what that is about. I think that's what it is all about, the fact that they're trying to bring this back in because the power of the purse is with the Congress, and that's really the only leverage that they've got there.
	But they're all saying, like Paul Krugman repeated that just like said Dick Cheney, saying deficits don't matter.
	We just have to be able to service it.
	Well, at the rate that the interest rates are going up and at the rate that they're increasing the deficit, they won't be able to service it indefinitely.
	That's the whole point. You go back to testimony from Paul Volcker after he was retired from the Federal Reserve, and he was the one that raised interest rates to the teens after Nixon took us off the gold standard by the Carter administration.
	Inflation was out of control. But he had a famous testimony before Congress, and he said, you know, it's not really the deficits.
	It's not really the spending so much as that we don't make anything.
	We don't produce anything.
	Yes, that's right. And that's what's so dangerous now.
	I mean, we take for granted the economy runs off of debt.
	It lives off of debt. It needs it.
	It's kind of the basis for ESG, environmental social governance, is that it's no longer about profit anymore.
	So that's a dangerous thing here.
	It's like the economy... I don't think they will.
	I think this is...
	Two wings of the same bird.
	You're right though. They're just bargaining chips over what they can get.
	Again, nobody's talking about any of the things that would start solving our problems like ending the American empire, cutting the trillion dollar foreign policy, ending the giant bloated welfare state, auditing the Federal Reserve, really being fiscally sound.
	Nobody's talking about that.
	It's not going to happen.
	We're going to have to see power politics pure and simple.
	That's right. And, you know, I think the other aspect of it, though, is that Ryan Macon was talking about, he said, three myths about this stuff, you know.
	And one of them that he had was the idea that the U.S. has never defaulted on things.
	And he says, no, it has.
	It has defaulted three times.
	And I thought it was really telling, Tony, when I looked at it, it's like, wow, I hadn't made that.
	He didn't make the connection to the fourth turning.
	But when he talked about the three times it happened, it happened after the Revolutionary War, as he points out.
	A new constitution was in place.
	They defaulted on domestic loans.
	The federal government renegotiated past debt.
	That's the reason why you had the 14th Amendment, which the Biden administration is saying we're going to misuse that, right?
	They put the 14th Amendment in there because they knew what had happened at the end of the Revolutionary War, that fourth turning.
	And so they said, well, you're not going to repudiate the debt.
	Because they'd seen that happen at the Revolutionary War.
	And so they put that in.
	But even then, he said there was greenback default in 1862.
	The original greenbacks were $60 million in demand notes.
	It was in redeemable specie.
	He said less than five months later, in January of 1862, the U.S. Treasury defaulted on these notes, failing to redeem them on demand.
	And then you had the Liberty Bond default in 1934.
	Every one of these fourth turnings, They've had a major default.
	And so the default isn't going to be default of Kevin McCarthy.
	It's going to be part of the fourth turning because we always have economic unrest and you have these wars that happen.
	And in each one of these cases, it was depression, it was war, other things like that that were causing the default.
	It's just another reminder of where we are in this cycle of history, I think.
	It's pretty amazing. You're absolutely right.
	And the audience needs to understand this isn't just politics as usual.
	And this isn't like when Newt Gingrich shut down the government for a little while.
	This is a much bigger issue.
	Look at the debt in 2000, David, was $5 trillion.
	It's 30 trillion.
	I mean, think about it. It took all of our history to get to five, and then it doubles through every president.
	So this is unsustainable.
	We're going to see the complete collapse of the dollar eventually on some level, and I think they'll use that for a lot of totalitarian programs they want to push through, like CBDC, if we're not careful, if we don't understand what's coming.
	But the dollar is going to lose more and more value.
	It's going to lose the reserve currency status of the world.
	So it's up to you, the audience, to figure out what you want to do to protect yourself.
	That's right. Again, this isn't an infomercial.
	I'm asking questions.
	I think it's a good question to ask.
	What are you going to do when the dollar tanks, when it has its collapse, when it no longer buys the same amount of groceries?
	Because it's not buying the same amount it was three years ago.
	Right. You need to look at that.
	This is a reality that we're going to have to face.
	And again, the Politics, as usual, you talk about fourth turnings, there's always a major change.
	And this change, as you were talking about earlier in the show, it's the everything.
	You know, it's war.
	It's economic.
	It's sociological.
	It's spiritual. It's all the things.
	It's the everything bubble. It's the Hobbesian war of all against all.
	And, you know, again, we have to ask ourselves, how are we going to survive it?
	Can we thrive through it?
	I'm not a total pessimist here.
	I think that there's opportunity.
	In this chaos, to do things to help the community start a business, I think there's opportunity here.
	But there's also caution.
	And you don't always wind up coming out of a fourth turning with less freedom and liberty.
	I mean, look at what happened with the American Revolution.
	It typically does tend towards that.
	But it can go the other way.
	And that's what we need to be focusing on.
	But in order for that to happen, It has to begin with us individually.
	Each of us has to look after what is going to be happening with ourselves and with our family, and then with our community, then with our state, that type of thing.
	Again, it goes from me outward.
	It's this little pebble that is there.
	And that's only if we take the kinds of preparations that we need to.
	Only then are we going to be able to have the kind of ability to direct things to make it go up towards liberty instead of down toward tyranny.
	I think that's the key thing. And a key part of that is to prepare.
	If you want to prepare again, davidknight.gold will take you to wisewolf.gold.
	And Tony has got all kinds of products there.
	Wolfpack, but you don't have to get into a monthly thing.
	You can get whatever you want there, but that's also, we talk about that because that's kind of a unique program and it lets people have the opportunity to save on a regular basis.
	So I think that is a really unique and powerful thing for people to be able to do that on a regular basis.
	Thank you so much, Tony.
	Thank you for all you do to help the program.
	I really do appreciate it. Thank you, David.
	Always an honor, sir. Thank you.
	We're going to take a quick break, and we're going to be right back with Gard Goldsmith.
	Stay tuned. We've got some very interesting things to talk about.
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	You can find him at Liberty Conspiracy, and of course he also works for MRCTV. He contacted me a couple of days ago and said, hey, there may be some big stuff breaking about, you know, government surveillance and, you know, looking at the free speech issue.
	And I didn't have time during the break to find out, but Gard, what is the status of that?
	Has that news broken yet or not?
	David, thanks for having me on.
	It's great to come in after the inestimably awesome Tony Arterburn.
	And yeah, there is some new information about what's been going on.
	And the Media Research Center just released a press release, and there's going to be more next week where people who might be followers of MRCTV might be familiar with the fact that recently I tied together the Portman Murphy Countering Foreign Propaganda Act that and there's going to be more next week where people who might be followers of MRCTV might be familiar with the fact that recently I tied together the Portman Murphy Countering Foreign Propaganda
	And hand out money to old dinosaur news media that that money went over to places like the Virality Project, which was tied to leftists through the Twitter Matt Taibbi reports, and also NewsGuard, which is affiliated with Microsoft. and also NewsGuard, which is affiliated with Microsoft.
	You could have done one NewsGuard G-A-R-D. That would be a great promo.
	I'll check with the MRC people.
	Just have my picture looking very mean, you know?
	You'd have to go like Dark Brandon.
	You'd have to go Dark Guard.
	With a red background, you know?
	Yeah. Yeah, of course, they put it in there as part of the NDAA because it's all about national security, and everything that they do is about national security.
	This entire surveillance state, this police state, it's all national security, right?
	I know. Whatever would we do without them protecting us from our own speech?
	I'm reminded of that quote from Felix Dzynski as they were creating the Cheka, and he said, the fact that you are free is not your achievement, but rather a failure on our side.
	I've never heard that before.
	That's brilliant. Felix Dzerzhinsky, he knew how to run an operation, didn't he?
	He was the guy who got the template for James Bond for Ian Fleming, Sigmund Riley.
	The trust! Yeah, the trust.
	You know that story as well.
	He set up all the opposition was all being run by him.
	Amazing. Amazing.
	Yeah, absolutely amazing.
	And in a way, rhetorically, the DHS now has been pulled into this.
	And so, originally, the NewsGuard and Virality Project and so on, those we exposed over the past few weeks, as well as Matt Taibbi, who did a lot of the work.
	But I've been writing about this since 2016, trying to tell people, you know, it's sort of like, you feel like Cassandra in a way, because you're saying...
	We're reaching the end of that rail line in this really cool 1970s movie, the Cassandra Crossing, you know?
	So, the DHS now has been implicated in this, you know, the great and wonderful Alejandro Mayorkas.
	What's been going on is the latest revelation in addition to the NewsGuard virality project stuff that was being done through the DOD and the DOJ. Those have been exposed, but now there's a new facet of it.
	So we're talking about the targeting of Christians in the Republican Party.
	And I'll just read to you, literally the press release came from the MRC about 9.15 this morning.
	And there's going to be another shoe to drop.
	Now, MRC is not part of this, but it looks like all I can say is that there's more to come about the targeting of the MRC, possibly.
	I know that the MRC was definitely targeted by NewsGuard because I spent weekends responding to NewsGuard stuff that literally was being directly funded by me and my own taxes going to the feds and then funding NewsGuard to come hassle me about my own articles.
	It's just unbelievable. It personalizes Orwell's Newspeak and Ministry of Truth.
	It brings it right to you.
	You are actually your own Ministry of Truth.
	It's crazy. So what's happening right now is they've got this new thing that they've revealed called the Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention Grant Program.
	Now, just a couple details on this because I know this is sort of first blush information.
	What they discovered is the Media Research Center's Free Speech America has discovered that this was originally started by lovable, courageous Donald Trump.
	And originally it targeted the foreign terrorists out there.
	However, since Trump We're good to go.
	Breitbart News, the American Conservative Union Foundation, and the National Republican Committee, as well as, let me see, Fox News, and yeah.
	And so what they're looking at now is they are seeing how this money, they're starting to investigate.
	And one of the first areas that they discovered through a FOIA investigation is that the University of Dayton was one of the big grantees.
	And there are some very, very sketchy looking people connected with this.
	And $40 million has been handed out to silence these organizations.
	And I would not...
	I would lay some pretty heavy bets that Fox News and CBN and others are going to start forming some sort of lawsuit about this.
	Wow. Yeah, and we've seen this in the past.
	You know, you go back to 2017, 2018, when they...
	And it was...
	2018, that was the midterm year.
	And it was August the 6th that they purged us when I was at Infowars.
	They purged us off all the social media with just a couple of exceptions.
	And like, you know, Paul Joseph Watson didn't get purged off of YouTube or Twitter.
	I don't know about Facebook.
	I got purged off of everything except for Twitter.
	You know, most of the rest of the people got purged off of everything.
	And so we started looking at this, and then they came after...
	Another 800 organizations.
	I know they went after a free thought project and things like that.
	And the people who were behind that at the time, it sounds very similar to this.
	It was being run out of Indiana, the University of Indiana, and it was Oh So Me, like social media, right?
	And they were running this stuff.
	They had hired and given a grant to this university.
	To go over people's social media stuff.
	But now this is targeting directly the media.
	Fox News, Breitbart, and then organizations like the RNC as well.
	Is there any detail about specifically what they're doing?
	I mean, are they just trying to investigate them and find things to get them purged off of social media?
	Yeah, and I'm glad you asked that, because at first blush you hear about this, and it sounds so similar to other things that you hear, and you say, okay, well, I need to hear specifics, because people could just, rhetorically, you could have Alejandro Mayorka speaking out about Fox News or something like that, and we've heard it all before.
	But what specifically has been done?
	And by the way, I will mention to you that there might be some bleed-over to the time when you were at Infowars, Because Infowars was also targeted, so you too might have been one of the targets.
	And of course we've seen what's been done to try to silence you on so many areas of social media.
	So my first plus response to this, it looks like they've got this thing called Prevents Ohio.
	And it's from the University of Dayton.
	And this is just one of these programs.
	They have multiple DHS grant recipients.
	There's a hyperlink here to this DHS grant recipient list.
	But one of the most high profile was this University of Dayton Prevents Ohio.
	And it's all capitals. I don't...
	There's another hyperlink I have to read from universityofdayton.edu in their arts and science division on so-called extremism.
	And they awarded the University of Dayton $352,109 to establish this program.
	And I'm quoting from the MRC press release here, which promised to, quote, draw on the expertise of the University of Dayton faculty to, quote, fight domestic violence, extremism and hate movements.
	And that's where this list of the Heritage Foundation, Fox News, NRA, and Breitbart and so on and so forth come forward.
	Now, they conducted seminars.
	And again... So what we're seeing, from what I'm seeing, is we're seeing the money being used right now inside state universities.
	That's bad enough. I mean, the money being taken in the first place is bad enough.
	That's the moral breach right there.
	But the practical outcome does look like at least they've got this seminar, but what else is there?
	Let's see what else there is.
	The seminar also compared former President Donald Trump to Pol Pot.
	Okay. And then they had multiple seminars, including one headlined by a DHS agent that featured lectures by University of Cincinnati researcher fellow Michael Lodenthal, a self-proclaimed member of Antifa, whose Twitter feed is rife with post-celebrating acts of left-wing violence.
	Well, maybe he can get together with Sam Altman and start a unicoin for Antifa.
	They can call it Anticoin.
	I made a coin.
	We should register that as another coin.
	Yes, absolutely. So it says here, here is a little bit more.
	Going back in the history of this, they're talking about...
	Lodenthal used Provence, Ohio to explain in detail how to create dummy accounts on free speech social media platforms like Telegram, Gab, and Rumble in order to, quote, destabilize political movements.
	In other words, commit fraud.
	A lot of things we're doing are illegal, he boasted in the lecture.
	A lot of it involves breaking the law.
	He continued, well, if he had just gotten the FBI to fund Twitter, he could have done that no problem with $3 million.
	I mean, come on!
	Oh, yeah. The Biden DHS is responsible for the new focus on the TVTP program.
	Now, that TVTP program was the one that was started by Trump.
	And let me just double check.
	It's called Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention Grant Program.
	Started by Trump, of course, not constitutional.
	I don't see where they can come up with any of that nonsense.
	But then now used against Americans.
	Gee, what a surprise. Sounds like FISA to me.
	So, yeah, it says here, the Biden DHS is responsible for the new focus of the TVTP program that seeks to silence conservatives and Christians.
	Prior iterations of the TVTP programs under Presidents Obama and Trump focused on actual terrorism.
	Well, that's sketchy. I would disagree with him there because there's been no jurisprudence on that.
	The grant office was established under the Obama administration in 2011 with a 12-page plan titled, quote, Empowering Local Partners to Prevent Violent Extremism in the United States.
	Unbelievable. Now, it's just about the time that they started to push the, if you've got a Ron Paul bumper sticker or a Gazdan flag on your bumper sticker, on your bumper, then you too could be a part of that wonderful group.
	Have a cake in prison, right?
	Yeah. The program was...
	Yeah, yes, exactly.
	And the final bit that I'll mention here, the program was revamped and renamed the Office of Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention under the Trump administration.
	While on the campaign trail, Biden had actually pledged to disband it.
	Mayorkas and Biden appear to have hijacked it for their own political agenda, awarding 80 grants to far-left projects for the purposes of establishing media literacy, as they called it, and online critical thinking initiatives.
	The Biden administration spent nearly $40 million tax dollars spread across these 80 grants to do this so-called media literacy, including one is...
	An organization out Boulder County, must be in Colorado, and also at the University of Dayton.
	So there you go, and I guess Alejandro Mayorkas' fingers are deeply involved in this.
	He called the program a priority of the highest importance.
	Well, you know, when they talk about critical thinking, that's pretty cynical.
	They're critical of thinking.
	Just like when they talk about hate speech, it's speech that they hate.
	This is all, when you talk about prevents Ohio, what we're talking about here is pre-crime.
	We want to stop this before you do anything.
	And I've been talking about how from the very beginning of when the internet became practical, when they were putting the competitors in place, had venture capital firms, including the CIA's own venture capital firm, In-Q-Tel.
	They were picking the people who were going to be the players, people who would work with them, and let them compete to see who the best one was going to be.
	They wanted it to work, but it was all going to work for them ultimately.
	The key thing at that point in time was to create geospatial intelligence, which was to monitor.
	They were up front about it.
	It was to monitor people's Religious and political beliefs that was presented to everybody at the time, oh, you know, we got these radical Muslims and we got to be concerned about their religion and their speech, and people bought that line, and now it's being used against people they call radical traditional Catholics.
	What an oxymoron that is.
	No. You're not radical if you're traditional.
	I mean, you can't be both at the same time.
	All I can think of is Monty Python and the holy hand grenade, you know?
	Exactly, yeah. Or the American Carol that the guys did.
	You know, the Catholic terrorists who get on the bus and they've got like a holy hand grenade and they pull out the...
	The pin, which is a cross or something like that.
	But, you know, that's where these people are.
	And it was Eisenhower, when we talked about the military-industrial complex, he talked about, really, the military-industrial-academic complex.
	And that's what they're using right now.
	Using academia to push through this surveillance state that they have out there.
	It truly is amazing. Even with Trump, and I'm no supporter of Trump, but you look at this as the permanent bureaucracy.
	As you point out, these things, they just stay there from administration to administration.
	They may get kicked off by an Obama, but then it It continues on through the Trump administration because he leaves these organizations there.
	They don't try to reduce them in size or scope or funding or any of that kind of stuff.
	And so you have this constantly metastasizing cancer, whether the people are aware of it or not.
	I do fault Trump for things like the bump stocks.
	He certainly knew about that.
	He went with the pistol brace ban.
	He knew about that. Whether he knew about this or not, I don't know because this is being used against their own people, but it is yet another example of whether he knew it or not.
	Of this permanent bureaucracy that has really become the fourth branch of government, the most dangerous and uncontrolled branch of government, and that's how this thing is growing like this.
	Yeah, you know, and David, you mentioned the fourth turning sequences here that Ryan McMakin brought up.
	And by the way, I actually happen to have his book, Breaking Away, just sitting next to me over here that I picked up from the Mises Institute a while ago.
	It's about decentralization, nullification, and just, you know, secession, overall secession movements in history.
	It is interesting, David, because I think a lot of this comes from when you break off, when you decouple politicians, which is always a tendency.
	We go back to Alexander Hamilton.
	He was decoupling as he was writing some of the Federalist Papers.
	He was lying through his teeth.
	He was saying, oh yeah, there are going to be no assumed powers or anything like that.
	That's exactly what he wanted.
	That's why he wanted the Constitutional Convention, you know, so all of his cronies could make a bunch of money off buying those war bonds.
	They bought them for pennies on the dollar from poor farmers who had invested in the American Revolution.
	They knew if they got those things and then they got the taxing power, those guys would make a mint.
	They'd make 100% off of those things.
	They bought it like 10%.
	And, you know, so it was massively corrupt.
	And that's another reason why they went after the whiskey makers in western Pennsylvania, because they needed that money to pay off his friends.
	And then he got a friend of his.
	And by the way, I've mentioned this on my little show as well.
	You know, according to the Constitution, the state legislators or governor can call for help from the federal government if under the Constitution they claim that they are going to lose their Republican form of government due to an insurgency or some extreme violence.
	But it has to come from the states.
	So if you look historically at things like the Whiskey Rebels and how things degenerated so quickly right after the Constitution was adopted by these cronyists like Alexander Hamilton going right through history all the way up to FDR, that whole strain of the anti-Jeffersonians.
	What's fascinating is they never got called into Pennsylvania for the whiskey rebels who weren't paying their taxes.
	They used a friend of Hamilton's who was a judge to claim that they were in rebellion.
	And so they just went to this friend of Hamilton's.
	And you say, oh yeah, go ahead and go.
	I mean, it's just the corruption, it goes way back, right?
	But when you've got these figures who are so willing to decouple from those constitutional structures, the rules that they promise us by which they will abide, and you've got central banking...
	All bets are off, because the money's going to go to the universities.
	It's going to go to this place in Dayton.
	It's going to go to, for example, University of Texas in Austin was involved with one of these so-called anti-propaganda groups, and they were connected with the Virality Project and NewsGuard and all these things.
	All of it over the past five to eight years has been funneled and funded thanks to the central banks, which is they bought up so much of the debt.
	And it's coming to an end, as you say.
	And the one thing that I think is extremely important for us to keep in mind is if you look at the Media Research Center, the MRC is reliant on donations from people.
	So, as you know, now, if you're a large organization, you're very high profile, so what happens if everything goes to CBDC? And you start to see figures like Justin Trudeau and his WEF crony shutting down people's bank accounts, stopping them from donating to just truckers, right?
	Well, how's the Media Research Center going to fare then?
	What's going to happen? If we're targeted by the Department of Homeland Security, and then they've got CBDC, How are these larger profiles?
	How are we going to survive?
	Right? Oh, absolutely. We know what's going on, and we've seen it rolling out.
	First, they use their corporate cronies, just like they use PayPal.
	PayPal deplatformed me five months after the show began, after they figured out I was doing it, who I was, they deplatformed me.
	And I talked to Matt Taibbi at the time, He contacted me about that kind of financial blacklisting that was going on.
	And now, because he did the Twitter files, they pull him in and stick the IRS on him.
	And so the CBDC is going to be a combination of both of those things.
	And it's going to be more, you know, they're just going to make it more direct.
	All the stuff that they're doing now, it's just going to be faster and more direct.
	That's really what they're trying. They're not trying.
	It'll be fed now in your face.
	You know, they'll do it right now.
	Yeah, we know what we're...
	We know what we're getting fed, too, and it's not good.
	I'd rather use that out in a field to fertilize the field.
	You don't need to feed me that. And, you know, David, I was really happy that you brought up the point about the Florida CBDC statute and the conversation between Stossel and DeSantis.
	Because the Florida CBD statute is different than some of the CBDC statutes.
	Some of the CBDC statutes don't...
	So, at first blush, some of them look like they're banning central bank digital currency, but not all of them actually are.
	they might be banning a federal reserve or international digital currency but they don't mention the u.s treasury and that's a big deal because if the u.s treasury wanted to they could themselves separate from the federal reserve and create their own cbdc which they have done in the past with money as we know and they would just inflate it as well and they would So it would be the same sort of thing.
	But the Florida statute does mention the U.S. Treasury specifically in that list.
	I did a report on that Florida statute a little while ago.
	So that's one of the things.
	I wasn't aware of that.
	But you're always on top of everything.
	I love the depth of your reporting.
	Oh, thanks. Thanks so much.
	I appreciate that. And I really, I gotta say, I was so glad that you covered that information from Stossel and DeSantis.
	Because all the rest of this is just fluff.
	You know, you gotta get into the roots of these things.
	And what you discussed in particular, as you and I know, because we have some really interesting thoughts going, and we've never really been able to spend a lot of time talking about it, but the idea of asking for incorporation status...
	And how that affects your ability to be able to be free to claim that your business is still private property or it can be regulated by the government.
	There are so many facets to that that are very, very important for people to keep in mind.
	And a lot of them are addressable, I think, by the idea of making sure that people recognize that corporate status is an artificial government blessing onto people.
	And there's nothing in the Constitution that actually allows that.
	So there's a lot to discuss with that.
	And the problem that I see is that if people start to accept the idea that corporations, by asking for incorporation status, it opens the door to having the government...
	So, for example, let's look at it this way.
	If somebody says...
	Like Stossel looks at it as, well, it's just a private business, which, not quite, right?
	But if someone says, well, it's not just a private business, should this corporation then be able to force everybody to get jabbed, right?
	Yeah. Well, you know, to me, that would be whether or not it's in the original contract.
	And the problem is you have to separate the corporate status from the contract status.
	You know, is there defraud?
	Is there breach of contract?
	Are you going against what the original contract was?
	And that goes for anybody who's making an arrangement walking into a store and so on.
	But not to get too in the weeds on this, but one of the things that I think is important is to say, look, by trying to answer the problem of a business forcing the employee to do something that might run counter to what we would see as acceptable, say, by trying to answer the problem of a business forcing the employee to do something that might run counter to what we
	We are actually answering the problem by perpetuating the problem, which is that by saying, well, you're a corporation and you can't discriminate against X, Y or Z person.
	You're then saying, well, you are a corporation and you must answer to the government diktats.
	So in a way, it actually does a backdoor opening to the government saying, you must jab people.
	You must wear masks.
	There's no answer there.
	I think that's the key thing, because people have looked at this, and typically, like I say, we have situations saying, well, you're not going to discriminate against somebody based on the color of their skin.
	And so you're going to open up.
	You've got a public space here.
	You're going to serve everybody equally.
	And we understand that.
	And then you get into these fine issues like, you know, the gay wedding cake or whatever, where they came in and he said, look, I'm a bakery.
	I sell stuff off the shelf to anybody.
	I don't ask anything, any questions about them.
	But if you want me to custom make something for you because this is a domination thing, And you know that this is my religious beliefs and you're trying to rub my nose in the cake.
	Well, I'm not going to do that. And so, you know, there's these different nuances that are there.
	But I think most people are coming at this from the standpoint of, is this a private business that's going to, is doing this out of their own bigotry or hatred of a group or whatever?
	And that's people's mindset with it.
	When in reality, they're doing it on behalf of the state.
	Right. And that's the key thing.
	And you've got to cut through that BS and our background of all this saying, well, you know, they don't want to have black people at the counter.
	And so it's not about that.
	It's about these people doing it on behalf of the state.
	And that's really why you had the cruise ships doing that, you know, in Florida and that type of thing.
	It wasn't that, you know, they have some hatred of people who aren't vaccinated or not wearing a mask.
	It's because they're agents of the state doing this and giving the state some kind of plausible deniability.
	Well, we're not really doing it. We're not really censoring your speech.
	It's the social media companies that are doing it.
	No, you're their agents.
	That's exactly, David.
	I think anybody who thinks that they can use the government to prevent the businesses from, say, establishing rules that they don't like has to admit that the government can then be used to establish rules that they don't like.
	And this is the major problem, that invasion of private property.
	And it literally... If you separate the request for corporate status from it, and you look at just philosophically and historically, the roots of the problem go all the way back to John Locke.
	I would have my students up on the board, and we would go through the Second Treatise of Government, and I would ask them to point out areas where John Locke was offering double standards or he was illogically falling apart.
	There are two areas where Locke had it wrong.
	Very, very wrong.
	There were a number of areas where he had it wrong.
	People often claim that John Locke was a natural rights theorist.
	He wasn't. He was a social contract theorist.
	He was claiming that everybody signed on to this magical social contract.
	And that's, you know, again, it runs parallel to this idea of, do I have a private business or do I not?
	So, what Locke said was, "No man should be deprived of the fruits of his labor without his consent." And then literally in the very next sentence, John Locke says, "And by his consent, I mean the consent of the majority." So he negates his own argument.
	It's a QED, right?
	Right. Well, who defines waste?
	Right? If I allow a couple apples to fall on my apple field, is that waste to you?
	And then he says, if you waste it, then you have to give it up to somebody else.
	It's like, no, no. Now you are establishing yourself as the arbiter of what is waste.
	Leave me alone. Leave me alone.
	And this is the problem now.
	When you open up that door, and this is where the DeSantis-Stossel conversation becomes so dynamic and so interesting and opens up such a great door to learning.
	Because... You know, Stossel's position, and you rightly say it, if Stossel had just opened up that extra dimension to say, ah, I know we're actually talking about people asking for incorporation status, then you've got to say, when you're asking for incorporation status, are you then becoming an agent of the state?
	And how far does that go?
	And then that draws in even more complex stuff, which is what are called unconstitutional conditions.
	And unconstitutional conditions have been ruled on over and over again in various ways.
	As you know, Hillsdale College, Grove City College, the federal government tried to force them to conform to Title IX if they took any students who got government grants.
	They said, we're private.
	We're private. And they said, no, no, if you're taking government money.
	By the same token, there was the Cabrini-Green housing unit, which, by the way, I think Tony might have mentioned this, or maybe it was Don Jeffries who mentioned this.
	Michelle Obama was involved in the tearing down of the Cabrini-Green housing complex outside of Chicago.
	That was one of her big claims to fame.
	But Cabrini-Green was a Title 8, Section 8 housing complex where they had a child who got killed out in the parking lot back in the early 80s, I think it was.
	It was a drug deal.
	And a little kid got hit and crossed fire, lost his life.
	So they said, we are going to stipulate that if you're going to get this federal housing benefit, you must accept no-knock raids in your apartments for searches.
	Completely contrary to the Fourth Amendment.
	So in that case, the Supreme Court ruled, no, you can't do that.
	You can't stipulate that someone has to open up their doors to no-knock raids.
	People still have their Bill of Rights protected rights.
	But then you've got Christian bake shops.
	I want to ask for incorporation status.
	So again, similar to what those people with Cabrini Green were doing, I'm asking for a government benefit.
	Give me this housing.
	Give me this corporate status.
	Give me the legal protections against my own assets if I form a corporation.
	So let's say you form a corporation, an LLC or something like that.
	Does that then mean that the government can tell you to do all these things that run contrary to your rights?
	And so the heart of the problem is the state.
	It's always the state.
	And the ability to incorporate should have nothing to do with the state.
	And that's the problem.
	Because the minute you get the state involved, then all these questions arise.
	What can the state demand for the beneficence of granting you this corporate status?
	And we see that problem in spades when it comes to private schools and school vouchers and all the rest of this stuff.
	You know, even in that discussion with John Stossel, and they're talking about, well, you know, what about a private school?
	A private school can do whatever they want, but if the taxpayers are paying for it, we're going to tell them what to do.
	And, of course, that is always going to be the case.
	And so when you have...
	So many Republicans out there saying, well, we've got to have vouchers and we've got to use them for private schools.
	And they've tried to draw homeschoolers in by saying, well, we've got these great athletic programs that you can get involved in or band or whatever.
	But it's going to be a way that they claw their way in once you take that.
	And that's the thing that people have a real blindside about.
	I remember up until...
	You had the Twitter files that were released by, you know, Musk and Taibbi and these other people were looking at it.
	The tack that had been taken by Reason Magazine, by the Cato Institute, by the Heritage Foundation, all these other people were that, well, they're corporations, they can do whatever they want.
	I don't like what they're doing. As a matter of fact, John Stossel said it many times.
	I really hate the fact they're censoring me, he said, and I hate what they're doing, but they're entitled to do it because they're corporations.
	And I kept saying at the time, they're working on behalf of the government and they would not acknowledge it until these Twitter files came out.
	And that was the best thing I think that came out of it was it kind of started to open their eyes as like, oh, there was a hidden hand behind all this stuff.
	Yes. And you, boy, you were way ahead.
	And I have to say, David, you know, as a person who I know, you were a fan of British television and so on and so forth.
	The anti-corporate left wing of the Brits, their population, they were way ahead of me.
	And, you know, I often mention there's a band called Killing Joke, and I met their lead singer and so on, and he's a symphonic composer.
	He's worked with Sarah Brightman and things like that.
	He owns an island off the coast of New Zealand now.
	He's done very, very well.
	He was the prog philharmonic composer and so on.
	But, you know, he started basically squatting in a house as a teenager with other members of Killing Joke, along with The Clash and Motorhead.
	Wow. In one building outside of London.
	And, you know, he's gone to this prominence.
	But he and I were having a conversation because in his songs, he will quote the Georgia Guidestones.
	He literally, I might have mentioned to you, he literally wrote a song years before the pandemic nonsense started called I Am the Virus, a dig on Bertrand Russell and H.G. Wells.
	He was talking about Codex Alimentarius from the EU two and a half years before it was proposed.
	Like, he... He knows, so he said to me, and I've mentioned this on my show as well, he's got a really deep voice.
	He said, you know God, when I formed Killing Joke, a lot of this was very abstract.
	It was very, very, you know, I was just learning about the Illuminati and their influences through banking and corporations.
	Because now, we know these people.
	My drummer repairs paintings for David Rockefeller.
	We're in their homes.
	He goes, they really want this stuff.
	They want one world currency.
	They want to reduce the population.
	And he had always been railing against the corporate fascist stuff.
	And you were right on it.
	And that's where the reason people were off it a little bit, by a couple years at least.
	And maybe they'll be able to maintain it.
	Maybe Nick Gillespie has learned a little bit and some of the other guys there have.
	I think they were always aware of it, but they just never really got around to really digging into it.
	But you dug into it beautifully.
	And this is one of the major problems.
	When you've got a central banking system, what they're trying to do is forget the customers.
	Customers don't need to be pleased.
	Competition has nothing to do with it now.
	Just go to the central authority.
	Go to the digital money.
	And you'll be all set. You'll be fine.
	If you're a green corporation and you're failing, it doesn't matter.
	We're going to continue to fund you.
	We're going to have solar panels galore.
	Even if there's not enough ore out there to create a battery, we're going to pretend that there is and you're going to get a lot of money, you know?
	Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely.
	And the way they're coming after everything online, you got an article, Earn It, the Earn It Bill.
	Yeah. Tell us about the Earn It Bill and online privacy.
	What is that about? With Lindsey Graham, you're going to have to earn a position on the Internet, right?
	Oh, man. Good old Lindsey.
	Good old Lindsey. All right.
	Yeah, so the Earn It Bill...
	That one. And it's all tied into, there's a Senate version, there's a House version of this, and the Senate version is very, very close to a floor vote.
	It's SB 3538, and it just came out of the Judiciary Committee, or if you ride the metro in Washington, it's called the Judiciary Committee.
	I love the accent that they have there.
	But originally it was proposed in 2020 by Lindsey Graham, and it went nowhere.
	But the great hero of Vietnam, Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, reintroduced it.
	Of course, after he actually never went to Vietnam and did any actual action there.
	And then he was exposed for it.
	So the Earned Act essentially...
	It has to do with Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act.
	And within that, what they did was...
	And again, this is all predicated on an illegitimate assumption of U.S. power in one area and a legitimate assumption of U.S. power in another area.
	So I'll go with the legitimate assumption first.
	The legitimate, well, under their constitution, as a Christian anarchist, I don't necessarily agree that the constitution is a valid document for me.
	It's been foist on me, but I would at least ask those guys to conform to it if they promise they're going to conform, act by it.
	As a condition of their authority.
	They signed their name to the social contract, but you can't find your signature there.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So under the Constitution, as you know, the Congress can create the court system above the state Supreme Courts and below the federal Supreme Courts.
	So the entire circuit court system and federal district court systems and so on, those are all creations by Congress.
	And as such...
	Congress can then block certain types of cases from getting into those courts.
	So, for example, in 2005, they had the Legal Transactions and Firearms Act that they performed that Biden wants to just eliminate, right?
	So you can't have lawsuits for liability and malfunctioning of guns claiming that they malfunctioned just because someone shot someone else.
	They blocked those liability suits.
	In a similar way, what the 96th Communications Decency Act did was it blocks two things.
	It blocks the states from being able to bring action for what they call child sexual abuse material, child porn.
	The states can't take action against internet service providers or social media sites or so on.
	If the FCC... And this is where the unconstitutional aspect of it comes in, because the FCC is massively unconstitutional.
	If the FCC determines that the online host curated the material in what they call good faith.
	Now, of course, that's very subjective.
	It leaves them the power to say, well, you didn't do it in good faith.
	That's their power grab.
	But what this new thing would do is it would remove that assumption.
	For any ISP or any social media site that allowed people to use cryptography or any type of like a code key.
	So you're essentially guilty until you prove that you've earned it.
	Yeah, so essentially what it will do is incentivize anybody to say, look, we can be shut down immediately if you don't give us the codes, if you don't give us your encryption codes, and then they will give these people liability protection just like they did after the Snowden revelations about the Verizon wiretapping and the NSA and James Clapper saying, not knowingly, in front of Wyden, right?
	Yeah, right. So what they'll do is they'll give indemnification to these corporations if they turn over the encryption keys.
	So basically what they're trying to do is a backdoor way to not only stifle speech but to shut down crypto communications.
	Yes. Cryptocurrency.
	So that's what the earn it bill is.
	Essentially, it would just make it impossible for people to do any sort of interaction online with encryption unless they go super, super underground web.
	Well, you know, we see them coming after crypto in so many subtle, devious ways.
	You know, the Earn It Act is one of them.
	Restrict is another one.
	You know, when they come in and then say, well, if we have deemed an entity, who might they have in mind?
	You know, a foreign cryptocurrency exchange or something.
	If we deem them to be a bad actor...
	And you deal with them, you're going to get a massive fine.
	And then if you use a VPN so that we can't see that you're doing it, we find out somehow anyway, they're going to come after you with a million dollar fine.
	You know that this is about crypto.
	You know that it's about the cryptocurrency because that's what they're trying to chop down.
	So it's amazing to me to see all the different tentacles that are coming out of the federal government You're trying to wrap its way around crypto and To strangle it and it's just another one of these things really they earn it bill I mean yeah, and David, you know I think part of the problem is that there's so much information coming around That it it becomes hard to juggle all the little balls, you know So you've got Matt Taibbi's work has just been stellar and Excellent, excellent work.
	Then you've got the other facets of that, which are the emotional sides of them testifying in front of Congress and then him being attacked by the IRS. So you've got that additional information.
	You've got the Earn It Act.
	You've got the Restrict Act.
	You've got this new information from MRC. And evidently, from what I'm hearing, MRC is going to be...
	So then you've got NewsGuard.
	You've got the Virality Project.
	You've got the Portman Murphy stuff.
	So, you know, I'm familiar with this...
	Because I've been working with this for a number of years, and I spent hours over the weekends sometimes responding to idiotic emails from NewsGuard, and all they would have to have done was just hit the hyperlinks in my articles, and they would find that everything's verified, especially my climate change stuff.
	I wrote a 3,000-word response to NewsGuard a year ago because they didn't click hyperlinks in my pieces.
	It was all there. I mean, it's just infuriating to think about what they're doing to not only me, but to my friends.
	You know, Eric Shiner, he's got a family.
	He could be, you know, it's just, it's so stupid.
	Well, explain to me why, because I haven't had any interaction with NewsGuard.
	Yeah. So you're writing an article, and they send you a thing, and they're threatening to take some kind of an action if you don't explain yourself to them.
	What kind of an action are they threatening?
	Yeah. Yeah, well, what happens is, so NewsGuard, it's one of these things where advertisers on websites can go to NewsGuard as a so-called service.
	And because they're, yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	Exactly. Because they're connected to Microsoft, they have massive clout for the advertisers to say, well, if you get the green check on your website, you're seen as a trusted news provider.
	And it goes way back to that whole thing of proper not back in 2017.
	So there's such a long history because they're never going to stop.
	They're never going to stop trying to demonize people and broad brush people and trying to label them in this gaslighting way of, you're the bad guys and if you speak up against us, now you're dangerous.
	It's like, what are you talking about?
	So NewsGuard, they are this...
	It's a constant stream of nigglers and sort of officious people who just, they basically will send emails out just to waste your time.
	Yeah, and so you want to keep the status with them.
	Yeah. Approved status, or they'll shut down advertising to you.
	Yeah, exactly. They'll take you off their preferred advertiser list.
	And that's, you know, for anybody, especially like the Media Research Center, that's a big deal because they're all donations.
	Yeah, yeah. So...
	It's tough. You know, it gets very, very difficult.
	And so the News Guard forces out there are, you know, they paint themselves as these polished paladins in their armor, you know, like Mick Jagger, you know, on a fine Arab charge, you know.
	But they're not.
	They're just propagandists themselves.
	And this is part of the problem where, you know, it goes way back to the assumption by the big three media networks that they were the news, that Walter Cronkite was the most trusted name in news, CNN. You know, I mean, you find out the guy's a socialist and it's his voice doing the owl in the grove out west, you know. So they ought to call it the Bohemian, not Bohemian, but Bohemian Grove.
	Yeah. But yeah, so that's what they do.
	They try to trip people up.
	They take our time. And of course, the end product, the final product of it is to basically demonetize us in a roundabout way.
	I'm looking at your bio here, and I should have read this when I brought you in, but we wanted to get right into that stuff.
	You were such a renaissance man, Garnt.
	It's truly amazing.
	When I look back at your experience here, TV script writer, journalist, syndicated radio host, you teach, you lecture on political economics, you've been involved in Star Trek as well as The Outer Limits and all the rest of the stuff, the stuff that we all watch.
	You're out there writing that kind of stuff.
	And then, of course, novels.
	And you're working on a novel right now, right?
	Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man.
	Boy, you made my day, David.
	You know, I've been really sick, and I've been sitting up on the computer sometimes with, like, the fever trying to get through the novel.
	I'm like, okay, I'm going to keep going.
	Yeah, I had a bunch of novels and novellas that were supposed to have been published by a publishing company out in California.
	And then when the pandemic came along, well, first what happened was one of the major figures at it almost went blind.
	He's a really good guy. Wow.
	So I just waited and they had to take a lot more time.
	And so then the pandemic came and they said, oh, let's wait.
	Let's not put these out. I had a different opinion.
	I thought, you know, I think it would be really good to get these out because people are at home and they might want something to read, you know?
	But there was nothing I could do about it.
	And so I've never really gone with trying to get a large agent or anything for my prose fiction.
	And I really should try to get an agent and go down to New York and try to go to some of the big industry meetings and get somebody who can get my stuff out to tour and especially fantasy type stuff.
	But, yeah, so I have...
	You really should do that.
	You should use a pseudonym, though, because you're probably out there.
	They probably have writer guard as well as news guard, election guard, and the rest of the stuff.
	I can see it now, everybody returning my books backwards, you know?
	Maybe I go to the Mises Institute and say, hey, Ryan, can I get something in your next book?
	But... But it's interesting because I actually did decline a contract from another publisher for Horror.
	It was a mid-range publishing company, and the reason I declined it was because they had sent me the contract, and then I got an email from their PR woman.
	The next day, I was just starting to look at the contract, and she said, oh, so I'm wondering about what you're going to do about your name.
	And I'm looking at this.
	I'm reading down a little further and she says, well, you know, we're looking forward to working with you and, you know, we'll have to come up with a name that we can promote on your books rather than your political work.
	So they were looking at my Twitter and my other releases online and they were saying, oh, that's a liability for you.
	What she probably didn't realize was that I probably would attract more people to the books from my political stuff because that's really where I'm known.
	But yeah, it's been really tough.
	So right now I'm going through some things.
	Everything is connected.
	All the work I'm working on is all part of a larger mosaic.
	And I'm trying to attract people who are sort of like fans of the HP Lovecraft stuff, and then in the end, bring a lesson about Logos and Jesus, and try to explain to people, like, look, you don't get the material world from anything other than something from God.
	You don't get the physical from anything except metaphysics.
	Yeah, right. And so, yeah, so I've got a couple things that are in the pipeline now.
	So I'm looking forward to it. I'll dedicate one to you, sir.
	It'll be a good thing. If you're going to go from H.P. Lovecraft to Jesus, maybe call it Post-Tenebrous Lux, right?
	After darkness, light.
	It is tough.
	It is tough when you're out there and you speak and I understand why they said that's a sad commentary on the world that we live in now.
	You've got to hide your politics.
	You've got an article about John Cleese and of course he's not immune from this kind of stuff.
	Rowan Atkinson is not immune from it and he's spoken out on it as well.
	You've got an article about the life of Brian Line that they're giving them all kinds of problems.
	It's not over mocking Jesus and the blaspheming I know!
	I know you've got a movie!
	I know! You've got to hand it to the Monty Python guys.
	As frustrating as it was when I was a kid and I saw that they were mocking the New Testament, they did it in that indirect way so they could kind of get away with it.
	Oh, it's not Jesus we're mocking, it's Brian that we're mocking.
	Oh, I see. Okay, fine.
	But, yeah, that opening line where Eric Idle's character says, I want to be a woman.
	I want to have babies.
	And John Cliff is like, well, you're a man.
	You can't have babies.
	You don't have a uterus. Where are you going to put it in?
	A shoebox? And he says, it's my right as a man to be a woman.
	Way ahead of their time, were they?
	I know! And of course, I guess, you know, they did have some members who were of that tribe.
	Yeah, we look at it now and it was like, I saw that and it was just like kind of cringy.
	And I thought, that's so cringy and strange.
	It's like the lumberjack thing, you know?
	Yes. That is so strange.
	I was completely oblivious to that whole subculture there at the time.
	Why are they doing that?
	Yeah, yeah. But he has been outspoken in terms, even though we don't agree with him on many things, you know, they'd be religious or other things like that.
	Certainly he and Rowan Atkinson understand just how dangerous this whole censorship thing is.
	And of course, for them, it puts them out of business because nobody can crack any jokes about anything.
	Everybody's got to be on edge about everything and nothing is funny because they themselves are the joke, right?
	Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I think it's interesting.
	Maybe it's just, you know, my aging as my skin becomes seasoned like tough leather.
	But, you know, I find a great satisfaction in seeing some of these people that I admired for their wit.
	Now I admire them for their wisdom or their courage.
	And it's just terrific.
	And, you know, it's like with the book thing, you know.
	I said, you know, why would I do that?
	And somebody was like, well, it's a simple thing.
	Why not just change it? I was like...
	Because it's my name. My parents gave me this name.
	What are you, an idiot? That's insane.
	Why would I do that? This is it.
	You don't back off on principle.
	Otherwise, why be alive?
	It made me angry when I would see people on YouTube During the vaccine stuff, and they would say, you know, I'm going to talk about the thing.
	You know what I'm talking about here? That thing, you know, I can't say it on YouTube, but the thing.
	And it's like, just say it and let them cancel you.
	Don't censor yourself.
	If they're going to censor you, that's bad enough.
	But it's even worse when you censor yourself to try to get on their platform.
	They're just going to shadow ban you or do other things like that anyway.
	And so that was something that always bothered me.
	And so I certainly understand why you would not want to Use the pseudonym in order to appease the gods of the publishing houses.
	Yeah, but the time is coming, David, and I'm really looking forward to it.
	As you know, I've been real sick, and it sort of feels like you've been in a box.
	I've got the writing, you've got all these things coming, and I've been slowly building things, and your listeners have been amazingly supportive for what I've been doing on the political stuff.
	As you know, I'm not full-time with MRCTV. I'm just on contract with them.
	I do a certain number of pieces per week, A certain number of videos per week.
	And then I have other things like teaching and things like that.
	And the fiction part of it has been so important and you feel like you're in the corral and you're just ready to go, you know?
	So there'll be some good things coming down the line and I'm really looking forward to being able to talk to people about it when everything's all set and I can feel comfortable and say, yeah, I'm giving something good to people.
	I'll be happy with that.
	That's great. I know you don't have a problem with writer's block, but you've been having a lot of problems with nasal block this last week.
	And so people pray for guard.
	He's been really sick. We're going to have him on earlier, but he was sick with that.
	Before we run out of time, let's talk a little bit about where people can find you.
	Liberty Conspiracy. Tell us the platforms, the best ways for people to find your content there.
	Of course, you're on MRCTV. You're on Liberty Conspiracy.
	You're on Substack. Tell us all the different places and the best ways for people to connect up with you.
	Right on. Okay. Well, if people want to find me Monday through Friday, except for tomorrow night, I won't be able to do it, over at Rockfin.
	Thanks to the Rockfin folks, and thanks because you asked me to fill in for you.
	The Rockfin people were very amenable.
	Rockfin, the Liberty Conspiracy, Liberty Conspiracy Live at 6 o'clock every Monday through Friday.
	Also, my substack, it's just Gardner Goldsmith substack, and people can check out my work there.
	On Twitter, I'm at GardGoldsmith, and on Gab, it's GardnerGoldsmith.
	And if they want to find some fiction that I've already got out there right now, they can find my fiction at Amazon, at Barnes& Noble.
	I would recommend there's a short novella that's called Bite, which is sort of like Kolchak the Night Stalker.
	And there's another one called Fishing, which is very dark.
	There's some very violent stuff in there, so it's not recommended for younger teens in particular.
	And also another one called Wall, which is sort of crypto-archaeological stuff.
	And other than that, I would just say if people want to also maybe go to Rumble, Look for the Liberty Conspiracy channel there as well.
	We're looking for people. And we just got to 1,000 followers on Rockfin.
	So please help out and spread the word.
	And yeah, you know, it'd be great stuff.
	And thanks. And you're on Rockfin.
	And people can go to Amazon or other places, search for your name to find the books.
	You also had a novel, Live Free or Die.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, yeah, well, actually, Live Free or Die is an interesting combo.
	It's my non-fiction collection of articles along with a script that was never produced from the Outer Limits.
	Wow. And if people are familiar with Prometheus, they'll recognize a scene that's actually very similar to Prometheus that came a few years before that.
	Wow. And, yeah, so...
	Always another curve. Guard Goldstein, thank you so much.
	Thank you for coming on.
	That's... Joe, we've got a problem.
	Who are you?
	It's the new mug they're selling at thedavidknightshow.com, right?
	So, basically, a mug is something that holds liquid, right?
	Because basically you can't hold coffee with your hands, right?
	I'm a scat and a name, but anyone tries to mug me, I'm being ready for it, you dog-faced pony soldier.
	They say the mug can help patriots drink coffee, then save the world.
	This could be bad for us.
	Save the world? But we owe the world.
	These people, they're supporting free speech with every month they buy.
	Come on. These people, I tell you, well, anyway.

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