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Feb. 6, 2023 - The David Knight Show
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The David Knight Show Unabridged - 02/07/2023
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Music Using free speech to free minds Music You're listening to The David Knight Show.
As the clock strikes 13 on Airstrip 1, it's Tuesday, the 7th of February, year of our Lord 2023.
Day 1000.
of two weeks to flatten the curve.
This is Tony Arterburn.
I'm filling in for The Great David Knight.
I'm joined by the one and only Gard Goldsmith.
Thanks for having me, Tony.
Glad you're here, brother. We have to get all of that theme in, Gard. We can't not let the music run, my friend.
How are you this morning? I'm doing well.
I'm doing well. And indeed, thanks for letting the music do the talking, as Aerosmith might have said.
That's right. Yeah, great composition from David.
And welcome to day, yes, 1062, right?
I remember filling in for him when it was in the hundreds.
I remember being in Infowars in Austin.
It was like 140-something.
We've been around for a while.
That curve is really flat now, I think.
Two weeks to flatten your world.
Yeah. All right.
Well, I want to thank David, and we wish him a speedy recovery.
I think it's just a temporary thing.
I don't think anything's really something to worry about, but it looks like he's going to take a day off, and we'll be here.
And we've got Donald Jeffries is going to join us in the second hour, along with Billy Ray Valentine, so we'll have the entire America Unplugged crew.
And you and I, my friend, will be here for the entire three.
Since I have you today, I can pay a little bit more attention to the chat.
And again, any donations today are going to go to David.
So if you feel like donating today, please do that.
We'll go over sometime in the show in the next three hours.
I'll go over gold and silver prices.
We'll talk about a little bit of macroeconomics, maybe cryptocurrency, all that good stuff.
I'll throw that in there. But A guard, as usual, comes completely prepared, had all the links ready.
I was about 15 minutes late to the prep, and he said, no, I've already got everything.
This is like when somebody has a nicer vehicle.
than you and you get to borrow it and you see there's so much not for a longer road trip and it uh you don't have to use your old clunky car so this is a guard showing up with the cadillac version of prepping i show um so we'll start off with if you want we can jump into the headlines and you and i didn't even get a chance to discuss uh the balloon uh we have a You and I haven't talked about the balloon stuff yet.
There's a story up on Zero Hedge we'll try to get to here in a bit about NORAD because that's the first thing I thought of was the incompetence or the planned incompetence on purpose and competence of NORAD with this balloon thing.
Exactly. Much to do about nothing, I think.
Gard, what do you want to start with, my friend, here in this first hour?
Well, you know, that balloon story is just so ridiculous.
And there are always the lighter stories to sort of ease people into the day.
You know, it's sort of like opening your eyes just a little bit to let a little bit of the sunshine in versus, you know, going super bright and everything.
There are a number of other stories that are out there as well about which people might want to be aware.
Of course, one that has actually gotten a little bit of traction even on the conservative news is the revelation that the CDC actually had put together a tracking scheme to track whether people were vaccinated, so-called, or not jabbed.
And that's a subject that, you know, I've mentioned on my program numerous times, they're filling in for David, that I tried to warn people back in 1996 when they passed HIPAA that that was something that the federal government was claiming the power that they could do, sans warrants or anything.
And everybody wondered, how can they do contact tracing?
So that's a story that's out there.
And also in the news, the World Health Organization finished its meeting last week, and James Roguski has some pretty good coverage of this at his Substack.
And there is another meeting coming up, and that looks like they're going to continue working, this sort of duality where they're deflecting, they're Drawing people's attention away with the pandemic treaty that they're working on when really the other hand that's picking our pocket and taking our rights are the revisions that they're going to be doing for their already established agreements that countries have already signed on to.
So that's a real slippery way that they're going to start claiming a lot of powers.
In fact, one of them actually claims the power for the World Health Organization to basically take control of all medicine.
It's absolutely crazy, including genetic research.
So, yeah, and to fund it through various means.
And also, in association with that, there's what's going on in Ukraine and the United States continuing, even, I can't really say even GOP, but including, of course, the RINOs and the GOP for more weapons funding to Ukraine and some very interesting information About how the United Nations wants to control speech as Mr.
Gutierrez is sort of siding along with people like the governor of California, Gavin Newsom and others who are very interested in enacting their new law, which is now currently on pause because it's going through the courts.
To pull licenses of doctors.
It's sort of a large-scale world domination, hegemonic version of that.
And it's utterly fascist.
And Gutierrez, when people hear this audio or if they're watching, if they see the video of Gutierrez, it's unbelievable.
So those are a few things that I've been looking at on my radar.
And also there's one sort of minor story, which is about Tom Jones in Wales, the Welsh rugby squad.
I had for years seen people singing Delilah, his 1968 first number one worldwide hit, which is a lament about a man who has killed his love out of a fit of jealousy.
And they're now saying, well, you know, it promotes violence against women, so we can't sing it.
Totally missing the point of the song.
So those are a few things that are out there.
So a lot of that has to do with, you know, just the The mentality of the woke to control speech, and a lot of it has to do with how the people who have been feeding this mentality are now trying to lever the mentality to wipe out free speech online in a very fascist way.
That's the thing about satanic cultural Marxism.
It doesn't have a lot of variety, does it?
Just check out the Grammys.
It was all red. Not surprising at all.
They finally just reveal themselves as what they truly are.
They're not in hiding anymore.
They're like, oh no, we worship Satan.
We love all this stuff.
Yeah, it's par for the course.
I've kind of expected it.
And the talent declines along with their revealing as well, which is interesting in that ratio.
Did you want me to pull up that disclose.tv of the union general?
Sure. Twitter feed. Let's pull that up.
Yeah, Gutierrez at the UN, folks.
Wait till you hear what he has to say.
And anybody who's been...
We're all sensitive to this, Tony, but...
This might be something to play for some other people and then to pause it for them and say, listen to that.
Think about what he's saying here, folks.
Think about what that actually means in actual process.
Let's play. We'll call for action from everyone with influence on the spread of means and disinformation on the Internet.
Governments, regulators, policymakers, technology companies, the media, civil society.
Stop the hate.
Set up strong guardrails.
Be accountable for language that causes harm.
And as part of my report to our common agenda, we are convening all stakeholders around the Code of Conduct for information integrity on digital platforms.
And we'll also further strengthen our focus on how means and disinformation are impacting progress on global issues, including the climate crisis.
Got to throw the climate crisis in there, Gard.
Oh, absolutely. We've got to save the world by stopping the hate and the miss and the diss.
Is there a mister information?
I don't know. I'm not sure.
You could pause that at about six different points to say, first of all, who defines what is miss and disinformation, right?
Because I think a lot of Americans have finally realized that pulling the Aristotelian fallacy Of claiming that there's some authority that can decide what is mis- and disinformation probably was a pretty bad idea over the past three years.
You know? Especially when the purveyors of that terminology were then going to Washington Nationals games after they had sent internal emails to people from NIAID and said, well, you know, masks aren't really that important.
Then said that they were important and then sat in the stands by pulling down a stinking mask.
Maybe people are starting to awaken.
To the fact that this turn to authority idea is a bad, bad idea.
But they're not doing it. And Gavin Newsom, as we know, in California, they passed, along these lines, they passed AB 2098.
And AB 2098 allows the state, it's a particular branch of the state, of course, the licensing board, to pull the licenses of medical professionals, particularly doctors, whom they have deemed, in their great authoritarian way, To have been spreading the misinformation.
It must have been Russian.
It's Russian medicine.
That's what it is. We got hacked.
I couldn't help it. What can I say?
I just said what Vladimir Putin told me to say about your cold.
So I'm sorry.
It's actually COVID 8000 and you're going to die.
You know, so that's that's it's unbelievable.
And the other thing about that that Gutierrez says is you can hear the mix of fascism That is right in there.
Because it's one thing for a politician to say, you know, in their great way, oh, these people are lying.
Don't listen to them. It's another thing for the government or some body of the government like the UN, which is so massively funded by our tax money.
It's another thing for Gutierrez to say, we must work with the technology and online platforms and social media platforms.
To take care of this stuff, to knock out the stuff that we say is inappropriate.
It's just unbelievable.
It's a dizzying array of fascist statements coming from Gutierrez.
I think, going back to your point, I think Mr.
Disinformation transitioned or something.
I think that may have what happened.
But, you know, you talk about the banality of evil, and I think that's what we're up against and what we're looking at in this decade.
There's going to be a lot of these type of speeches and a lot of these types of policy proposals, and it's going to sound...
A lot like that.
I mean, it's not going to be a lot of yelling.
It's not going to be a lot of name-calling, per se.
It's going to sound really benign, but it's over-the-top evil.
Like, you know, again, censoring speech, using technology to do that, thought crime.
I mean, these are all the dystopian things that they want to roll out.
And again, that's what we have to look for.
It's not going to come out and advertise itself.
As pure evil, it's going to be the boring, you know, these are the research you're going to have to do.
Look at what these people are saying.
This is what they want to implement.
And it's coming from, you know, this is the bones of the New World Order.
The structure is the United Nations, you know, born out of the end of World War II. The first head of the UN, did you know this, was Alger Hiss?
Seriously? No, I didn't know that.
Setting up in the Presidio outside of San Francisco, they put together the original body to start the articles and everything.
It was Alger Hiss.
Richard Nixon exposed him as a...
Well, they didn't convict him as a Soviet spy.
He was a massive Soviet spy.
Whitaker Chambers turned evidence against him.
But he was with Roosevelt at Yalta and had, again, contacts with the Soviet government.
So yeah, and again, did you know that the building where the UN stands today was donated by the Rockefellers?
Yes, yes. Do you know what it was built on?
It was built on a slaughterhouse.
Oh, unbelievable.
You know, the significance of these things, it blows your mind.
Take, for example, you remember the two-way bombings at King's Cross around, what was it, 2005 in England?
And they had a couple bombs on buses as well.
And there was one bus that was a non-numbered bus.
I think Steve and Paul Watson covered this pretty well.
Paul Joseph Watson. It wasn't actually on any run.
And they don't even know where it came from.
They claimed that there was a bomb on that one.
Drove it around, and they blew the bomb up out on the streets.
And guess where they did it?
Across the street from the Tavistock Institute.
The building for the Tavistock Institute.
I was like, I think we get the message.
I understand now.
That whole thing was totally bogus.
It was like the last firework going off.
Unbelievable. Amazing.
And you remind me, Tony, one of the things that...
Something comes to mind as we look at this.
Obviously, the government has worked for a long time, and I've often discussed the illegitimacy of the FCC and its origins in the Federal Radio Commission in the 1920s and Herbert Hoover being involved with that.
and how it was used to play favorites even back then so that certain radio people would try to influence the FRC how they delayed television and we could have had we other people could have had in the United States could have had television five years before it actually was allowed because the radio owners didn't want the government to license television owners to put to get onto the airways and you know The argument there,
just to sort of mention this briefly, and I'd like to mention something about Section 230 as well, is they say that, and I actually had a conversation about this with Congressman Ed Markey.
It's kind of a crazy story, but I was in Michigan at Hillsdale College at an economics conference just after the Janet Jackson imbroglio at the Super Bowl in, what was it, 2004, 2003?
Yeah, 2004.
And They were pushing the FCC to try to increase the fines, so-called, for indecency on television because, of course, Janet Jackson needed to get that attention because she had hit middle age, so Justin Timberlake took care of that for her.
And so, anyway, it was a ridiculous and utterly offensive stunt.
And so...
Already CBS was getting all sorts of blowback from people who had been watching, advertisers who were going to pull out and so on.
They were getting the response, the negative response that was appropriate for something like that.
But it wasn't enough because the government guys had the grandstand.
So I was in my hotel.
I was in a motel, a little tiny motel just outside of Hillsdale.
And I was watching C-SPAN. And that morning I saw that Ed Markey, who then was a congressman from Massachusetts, hardcore lefty, Was deriding CBS and they wanted to first have the FCC apply their fines, not just to CBS as a network, but to every CBS affiliate, which would have increased the fine amount by who knows how, however many affiliates they've got, 200, 150, I don't even know, right?
In addition to that, they wanted to increase the amount for the fine of indecency as described by the government, by the FCC. So I said, boy, what I wouldn't give, because these guys claim the federal government can control the airwaves for two reasons.
One, it's a scarce resource, the radio spectrum.
And they're not even thinking about cable, right?
And I'll get into the rest of it in a minute.
Two, they claim that radio waves go over the state borders, which is a ridiculous expansion of the Interstate Commerce Clause and was not intended, as James Madison openly wrote to people in the early 1800s.
He's like, it wasn't designed for that.
It was supposed to be state-on-state tariffs, and it could be resolved in Congress.
It was remedial, not preemptory.
So, okay. So my flight's still...
I'm sitting there going, oh, what I wouldn't give to just get a piece of that guy's ear, you know?
Get a piece of that guy's little finger, whatever.
So I go to get my plane and it's delayed.
And everything gets all messed up.
Delta was my original flyer.
They took care of me very, very well.
They said, look, we're going to fly in here because I had to get back to Boston by a certain time.
Otherwise, I would have had to sleep in a hotel in Boston.
So they're like, yeah, we can get you here.
So they switched me over. They ended up flying me into Reagan Airport on another carrier.
They put me on another carrier.
They were great. Very, very good people.
So I get into Reagan.
I'm all, I had like two minutes to get from one gate to another gate.
You know, I'm running and running and running and running.
And I'm sort of like those old OJ Simpson commercials where he's like jumping suitcases and stuff.
Except, yeah, except I don't have any murderous intent in any way whatsoever.
And my gloves fit, by the way.
But anyway, so...
If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
Exactly. We must acquit.
I drive a little faster in my white Bronco as well.
But anyway, so I sit down on the plane.
I'm all sweaty and crazy and stuff.
And I look up and who's boarding the plane but Ed Markey.
And I'm like, whoa!
And so I said, hey, congressman, And he goes, and he's all quaffed.
He's in this long wool coat, you know, and he's going to the back of plane.
I'm in the front, close to the front.
And I say, hey, Congressman.
He goes, yes. I was like, I think your bill stinks.
He's like, which is that?
And I said, well, you can take your pick because I'm a libertarian, so we probably don't agree.
So I said, but your FCC proposal.
He goes, oh, I think that's very important.
We can't allow for this indecency.
I was like, well, that's totally subjective, first of all.
And second of all, the First Amendment kind of prevents you from that.
But let me just ask you.
And I went through, I was like, this idea of scarcity.
I said, that could also, if they say that the radio spectrum is a scarce resource, At any given time on the planet, trees are also a scarce resource.
Hypothetically, you could use up every tree.
Are you going to regulate paper printing and written words and books as well?
Are you going to have the FCC control that?
He goes, well... And then, of course, there's the Interstate Commerce Clause.
No, I said the Interstate Commerce Clause bit first.
And he says, well, I think you'll find the people...
He used the people on the plane as his defense.
The majority... Democracy over speech.
I think you'll find that people on this plane think that it's very important.
Tyrants love that. Tyrants love democracy.
It works out really well for them.
You know, I was thinking, something you don't hear often anymore, which I don't want it to be heard, but they used to talk a lot about bringing back the Fairness Doctrine, which was repealed, I think it was put in place in the 1930s, And that might have had to do with Father Coughlin and some of the others that were on the radio at the time against Roosevelt.
And you fast forward to the 1980s, it's repealed, and that's where you get the rise of Rush Limbaugh and the radio on the right.
You don't hear much of it anymore because, in my opinion, I kept one hour.
On a major talk radio station I have out of San Antonio on 930 AM, The Answer.
And they're great people. They've left me on air for almost five years, so that's pretty cool of them.
But you don't have the talk radio anymore in America, Gard.
I don't know if you agree with me on this, but it has been neutralized in a lot of ways.
There is not a lot of fight there.
It's a lot of partisanship.
It's a lot of roads that lead to nowhere, a lot of dead ends.
Especially after the Trump era.
I mean, it was just defanged.
And so you don't really hear them going after.
There's no talk radio leaders anymore in that realm.
And again, that whole industry, God bless it, but it's dying.
I mean, every time I hear from them, you can just see it on the street.
Because there's no personalities using the airwaves, which I thought five years ago when I restarted my show, I thought, well, this is the place to be.
This is a zone where they really can't censor me.
That's kind of not true. We saw after the vaccine mandates, and Dan Bongino is one of those people that regretted having his staff had to take it.
I used to be with Cumulus.
Again, it's corporatist, and they're regulating their hosts there, but they are neutralized.
Neutered is probably a better word.
What do you think about that? Yeah, I think talk radio, I had the same mindset as you, Tony.
As I looked at how they were trying to clamp down back in 2017, Shutting down sites, going after YouTubers, shadow banning people.
You know, Mark Dice was one of the first people.
He actually did it in real time and recorded how he was shadow banned.
And, you know, we know, especially at that time, Infowars itself was really being hit.
David was over there.
They were some of the few people who were actually giving real coverage.
I mean, David on the ground at the Bundy Ranch, you know, down there.
Just incredible, incredible stuff.
And very little coverage from any of the major networks at all.
Fox, you know, very brief coverage here and there.
Talk radio, I think they're having to find their way in another way right now.
And I think that a lot of it has come...
It's amazing because right now they haven't had to worry too much about the reinstitution of that Orwellian titled Fairness Doctrine.
You know, another great example...
Of how politicians who want to do something nefarious will give something a nice, a seemingly nice sounding name.
Because what would be better than having fairness on the radio?
Of course, that fairness will be dictated by political figures.
And it ended up during those decades when it was applied, it ended up silencing speech on radio because nobody wanted to get into anything controversial because the government would come down on them and claim, well, you have to get every possible voice on that opposes this.
It's like, geez, well, if I own this piece of property, can't I have speakers come that I invite?
It's a similar sort of thing.
And the government says, no, because we own the airways.
It's always that fascistic, government's got to control everything, and they're our airways.
Well, that means they're nobody's airways.
The government is not us.
The government doesn't represent everyone.
Because if it represented everyone, it wouldn't be a polis.
It forces itself on people.
So what's interesting there is, I think...
There's a bit of a change coming in talk, and I can't quite figure it out, but we here, doing David's show, and you doing your work, and what I just started up over at Rockfin as well, thanks to you and David and some of the other really good people who've given me the opportunity to do fill-ins, the Rockfin people accepted me.
I think there are a lot of opportunities now for this sort of DIY, decentralized Approach to broadcasting, but we're all possibly going to be affected by government controls that they're going to try to institute.
So I think in the end, I keep looking at radio as for a certain period, if they do try to clamp down on the Internet, they might not do both at the same time.
So there might actually be an opportunity for talk radio because it's still in many cars.
People just turn their radio on rather than trying to stream in their cars or whatever.
Yeah, there's a percentage that has decreased, I think, of listenership.
But I think there are still some nooks and crannies there to be taken advantage of.
And I think that if there is a crackdown, the way that people are going to get around it is, of course, shortwave will always be there, I hope.
I can't say that with...
And then talk radio.
There might still be some independent voices.
I think it's going to...
It's going to take a couple years to sort of shake out, but I've noticed the same sort of thing, and I think part of it is because there's some really good, strong competition from people online.
I mean, amazing people online, and the radio stations just took a long time to even recognize those people.
I don't know. Maybe they'll start bringing them in on their airwaves.
We'll see. Well, they're definitely having a problem.
I mean, I'm talking about the right wing, if you want to call it that.
Conservative talk radio is in steep decline.
And again, they tried it with the left standpoint, and that didn't work.
I mean, there's no market for that.
Because really, the people, the voters on the left and people that tune into that don't really tune in anything other than cable news sometimes.
But it's more like the man on the street that doesn't know that there's seven days in a week and takes the Takes the chocolate bar over the 10-ounce bar of silver.
Well, you know, all that good stuff.
Exactly. I've been on shortwave for a while, too.
One of the things, I read a biography on William Cooper, who wrote Behold a Pale Horse.
I found out all about the radio wars of the 90s on shortwave, and I thought, this is really cool.
So I called up WWCR, which is Worldwide Christian Radio out of Nashville.
about three years ago and I've the art of burn radio transmission has been on shortwave ever since I'm actually on two different feeds so like you filled in for me on my show so you've been heard over shortwave and it's a hundred thousand watts and so I think and again the cool thing about shortwave is there's no commercials it's not really regulated at all from what I understand When I buy the hour, it's 58 minutes and it's mine.
That's fantastic.
Shortwave can be very effective.
Oh, yeah. And so many people have invested in repeaters that stuff can go even further than you think.
You know, farther than you think.
You know, 100,000 watts is insane.
Stuff can go right around the world.
It's terrific. Yeah, shortwave would be great.
And I should mention, you know, when you talk about things like the Fairness Doctrine, just to lay all that out, that, of course...
He smothered, stifled free speech until the FCC under Reagan, just as he was finishing, got rid of, and it was through Reagan's dictate, I believe, he said, no, get rid of it.
They got rid of it. And of course, you saw the rise of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio.
That actually led to the rise of Fox News because the original producer and, you know, sort of supporter for Rush was Roger Ailes.
And then Roger Ailes went over and helped start Fox News.
So a lot of that all stemmed from the change in the Fairness Doctrine, which the Democrats and hardcore lefties really lamented.
They hated it. But now they've got this Section 230, which is a similar sort of, although they haven't really been exercising it.
And I hope people recognize that within the 1996 so-called Telecommunications Decency Act, they had this thing called Section 230.
A lot of people have heard the terminology.
And what it does is, because the government claims to be able to control anything that goes over state borders, and in this case it's communications, even though the First Amendment should cover this, they still are going to say, well, under Section 230,
they allow the people who run websites or are internet service providers To be absolved from any sort of liability for personal injury suits or state indecency felonious actions against them.
As long as those people who run the sites, because of course, you know, if you're running a website, how are you going to be able to control everything that goes out there?
As long as those people manage the websites, they won't be termed editors Like magazine editors, they'll be turned publishers.
Basically, it'll just be called a platform.
And therefore, they'll be immune from liability.
But they say you won't be immune from a liability if you do not...
What do they call that?
When you're in a museum, you are the...
Curate. Yeah, curate.
If you don't curate this stuff in good faith...
But who determines what's good faith?
The FCC. So they've always held that.
It's very similar to the Fairness Doctrine, and a lot of people don't realize this.
A lot of my friends at the MRC, I wasn't sure they're more sort of paleoconservative, but it turns out they actually are aboard with what I'm talking about.
And this is one of the major problems when people look at the idea that the government Should have some sway over what the internet is.
Well, already we can see when the government decides that you're not curating something the way that they want it curated, they haven't overtly used Section 230, but in a way they practically come out with the end result, which is what they did at Twitter, what they did at Facebook, the backdoors of Twitter and Facebook, the money that they gave to them.
So that was their friends.
What are they going to do to their enemies?
Right? Oh, absolutely.
I mean, the censorship, and again, that's what their goal is, is to try to capture that.
And one of the ways that they're able to do that, I think, is these faux movements.
We saw that through QAnon, they thought through the MAGA movement.
I mean, if you can't really control the speech, then you control the people that speak.
And that's my, again, you can control it through narrative boundaries.
And I think that's what we've seen in the last few years.
And that's why I think they're in the doldrums.
I think that's why So much as on the decline, as people start to awaken and start to look around and think, why are we in this situation?
Why aren't you pushing back?
Why didn't you stand up against the jab bioweapon and the mandates and all the rest and Operation Warp Speed?
Why did you not speak out against the lockdown?
That inertia, I think that's where we are now.
It could be a time for reawaking.
I hope that I'm wrong and talk radio isn't in a decline, but I see...
I really see no evidence of it.
I try to stay in touch with...
I'm a conservative, if you want to call it that.
I don't like that word because there's nothing left to conserve.
I'm a restorationist, but I'm a traditionalist, paleo-conservative mix of libertarian and all the rest.
You and I have had extensive conversations on this.
I definitely want to stay in touch with my roots on the so-called right, but some of it's just insufferable.
I don't know if you've, it's, there's still in MAGA, there's still kind of these, and like the Steve Bannon type conservatives and stuff.
I tune into Revolver, you know, and there was a great article yesterday, and I thought about bringing it up, and you and I can even discuss the premise of it, but it was talking about Pat Buchanan recently retired from his column.
He's been writing since the days of Barry Goldwater.
And I'm a huge Pat Buchanan fan.
And again, I wish I had a chance to interview him or talk to him because for 20 plus years I've been reading his books and studying his philosophy.
But it was mixed in with, you know, he helped create the Trump era and Trump used his stuff.
And I'm like, yeah, for lack of a better word, bastardized it.
I mean, he took it and he made it inert.
I mean, all of us that were out here wanting To bring back economic nationalism, which you and I have talked about, but bringing the troops home, having a border, not a new world order, having a republic, not an empire, the paleoconservative, nationalistic approach to American politics, and that was hijacked.
And again, they were talking about how You know, Buchanan's career had spanned so many decades and how he's proven right on so much.
It was a great piece, but they had to mix in the orange guy.
And I'm thinking, oh, it's just such a waste.
You know, I still just have so much, you know, gut reaction to that when I see it.
So I try to stay in touch with, you know, that's where the news is, you know, because only really on our side really pays attention.
You get the crazies and the Marxists and socialists that are engaged, but Nothing like it is as far as the everyday person in the grassroots being staying in touch, but they buy into a lot of these publications.
Absolutely. And you know, Tony, with any sort of movement, and especially a great grassroots movement like Pat had a couple times on the Hustings, those things always have the little fibers on the sides that these...
Opportunists can try to grab the little strings.
They can try to grab to pull that sweater apart and then use the yarn in the way that they might want to use it.
I think that sometimes it's intentional, sometimes it's unintentional.
Sometimes you might see somebody who is part of an organization that is very anti-war, Within the conservative movement, but they might have friends who are very, you know, X, Y, or Z on another topic, and they'll say, you know, that might be a topic where actually it lends more power to, say, Big Pharma, or it might lend more power to the FCC, or whatever it might be.
So, you know, not everybody is going to be consistent, obviously, but it is difficult because When you see a straight-up guy like Pat Buchanan, and I disagreed with him on a number of things, but I met him personally many times.
Super nice guy. He used to talk to my mom and dad on the phone when he was coming into New Hampshire and everything, and they worked really hard for his campaigns.
He was a great guy.
It is very frustrating to see how a lot of these movements are suborned, or there are certain You know, strata within them that certain power blocks will try to utilize.
They'll try to mine those strata, you know, like sort of like when they came up with horizontal oil mining.
You know, you could go down and rather going straight down, you could turn left or right or whatever and go to another another area, another repository for oil.
And that was an amazing invention.
What's that? Kuwaitis did that to Iraq.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
So better take out Kuwait.
Yeah, right on.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And so, yeah, so it was interesting because I was thinking about how, as you say, there are the institutional ways that they try to silence people or control narratives.
And then there are the social psychosomatic ways Institutions, not institutions, but tactics that they use.
And one of the things I'll bring up, which is something that David has brought up before, it's this, and you can call this up probably too, it's that C2PA that David mentioned from Adobe, the BBC, Microsoft, the Coalition for Content, Provenance, and Authenticity.
And this is another way that Not just through the government, through Section 230, but again, when we hear Gutierrez talking about how we have to stop the misinformation and the disinformation, then he goes a step further and says, hate, hate speech.
Again, all the people who forcibly take my neighbor's money, and if my neighbor protests, they will put him in jail.
And if he doesn't want to go to jail, they are licensed to kill him.
If he wants to just remain in his home and he defends it.
So here we've got pure fascism, the C2PA. The BBC, of course, is funded through the television tax and it's heavily controlled by the government of England.
You've got Microsoft heavily in bed with the federal government.
You've got Twitter. We already know that Twitter was getting millions of dollars from the FBI and was communicating through backdoor means with them.
And by the way, there's a new announcement that came out just recently, probably in the past, oh, 13 hours or so.
And, you know, people take what they can get from this.
But Elon Musk evidently is starting to uncover even more because you might be aware of this.
Over at Conservative Treehouse, there's a very good piece over there sort of describing if people can imagine a coffee shop.
And he called it Jack's Magic Bean Coffee Shop or something like that.
And he said, imagine a guy starts a coffee shop and he wants to welcome all customers and so on and so forth.
This might be giving a little bit too much credit to Jack of Twitter.
So he says, imagine then that some government guys say, hey, we really love what you're doing here.
We'd like to help you out.
And you need staffers.
And we've got staffers with expertise who can really help you.
So not only do you Hire some of those staffers.
But they also give you technology.
And what appears to be going on is it looks like they're starting to get into the hardware that is part of Twitter's setup.
And evidently, this is just my conjecture, but it looks like The next set of revelations, and I could be wrong here, but it looks like there's going to be something that has to do with what was built into some of the items that Twitter and Jack Dorsey actually got from the federal government, which could be pretty amazing.
But what else do you need?
They already have Jack Dorsey.
Yeah, I know.
I know. Yeah, exactly.
But they're private. But they're private.
Yeah, that's just arsenic on the poison cake.
You know, we've already been fed.
So anyway, it's just more of an example.
But that Coalition for Content, Providence, and Authenticity, that then leads me to another.
So that one, of course, is the one where they want to attach the unique identifier to To all users, you will have to be public.
And of course, they're not going to be able to make everything public because people will find ways to get around ISPs.
And that goes all the way back, as I've mentioned before, that goes all the way back to who can control the cable and cell towers.
Of course, cell towers grew out of branching certain radio frequencies off because the government claims they can control it, putting controls in over what can go out there on the cell phone frequencies.
And the deal that the government made back in World War I to give AT&T a monopoly over phone lines as a so-called national security issue.
They allowed them to keep it until the breakup towards the end of Jimmy Carter's regime and the start of Ronald Reagan's regime.
That split AT&T into what they called the Baby Bells.
There was 9X, Southwestern Bell, and all these different...
9X stood for New York, New England exchange.
They all became subcorporations, split off supposedly autonomous from AT&T, and now they've all rejoined AT&T. But part of what happened during that period when they did the so-called breakup of the monopoly, which was a government-granted monopoly, was as part of the deal, they allowed...
The baby bells to control the fiber optic cable that they had been putting in.
They prohibited any competitors for cable television or cable supply of digital information to be able to put in what they called parallel lines along the roads or anything like that, next to the telephone lines.
Any competitors that wanted to enter the market couldn't travel along those same routes that had already been established on public telephone poles for AT&T. They were riding the advantage they had gotten from public telephone poles for electricity and telephone and their monopoly status as the phone provider for decades.
Then they got the monopoly Of preventing people from being able to put fiber optic cable down along those routes.
They had to find other routes.
That's part of the reason why we have so few choices in digital fiber optic communications.
And the other part of it is that they allowed the towns to decide what cable providers for television could come into the towns.
And that was a political football too.
So a lot of this, when you look at things like the Coalition for Content Provenance and things like that.
When they say, oh yeah, we're gonna make sure that you have a unique identifier and you're not gonna be able to get to an internet service provider.
Well, all of this history is all combined in here.
All of this manipulation of the market is all part of this giant ball of wax with all the flies attached to it.
We don't have a real market here.
So when they claim that, yeah, we're gonna be able to do this, it's a clearly fascist government combo That's saying these corporations are going to work very hard to make sure that at the outset, your computer has the ID on it.
It's put into your hardware.
You won't be able to do anything online, but people will develop their own.
You know, they'll work on their own.
They'll work with their own software and hardware to make sure that they can ride into the systems.
But the systems that have been in place have been in place and restricted because of the government.
We could have a lot more opportunities for people to ride pirate And go their own way, as Fleetwood Mac would say, if we could just get the government history out of the way.
But we can't. So anyway, that is a pretty big deal.
And of course, it all lends to IDing so you can get online, restricting your speech, and then eventually giving you a digital ID that will have all of your information on it, including your money.
And that brings us to Australia.
I don't know if you want to mention this one to the audience, but Maybe David Knight's audience would want to check this out, but in Australia, they're pushing for a digital ID, and that one is called the MyGov One-Stop Shop.
And you can see this one from the Sydney Morning Herald.
Australians would be able to use their Medicare cards, display their driver's license, renew passports, and enroll to vote On a one-stop shop phone app similar to an Apple wallet.
Gee, I wonder if they might turn it into an Australian CBDC wallet.
And it's going to be transforming the MyGov app.
So we already know how they crushed dissent in Australia.
We already know how they pulled people off the streets, shut things down.
Tried to close people's bank accounts in both Australia and in Canada.
We saw what Justin Trudeau did to people who merely wanted to donate to the truckers so they could buy food and fuel.
The app would also allow Australians to verify their identity with banks, phone companies, and utilities providers without handing over identity documents.
Well, wouldn't that be...
Wouldn't that be a digital document?
Why are they saying they wouldn't have to hand over documents?
Now they will have to have a digital document.
It's incredible.
And Tony, I was listening to a really good conversation on The Last American Vagabond over the weekend.
Ryan was speaking.
Ryan Christian was talking with Derek Rose.
And they mentioned how the way that the corporations and the governments have started to move these chess pieces...
Over decades, and it fits a pattern that they often do, is they basically move corporations and policies in such a way that it makes it difficult for people to live their lives in the old way.
And it's not a market choice.
They restrict the market choices.
They give you false choices.
It's a Hegelian dialectic.
Although it's done on multiple vectors.
So it might not be two. It might be three or four choices at first that the government gives you.
Then they winnow it down. Well, you can do it these three ways now.
Then they winnow it down again.
And I'll give you the example. Out of Massachusetts, Governor Charlie Baker, and I mentioned this on my show last night, Charlie Baker said during the height of the pandemic craziness, he said, oh, we're not going to, so-called pandemic, we're not going to have vaccine so-called passports here.
Well, little did people know that for the next two months behind the scenes, he worked with technology and university people to actually help develop a digital ID for jab passports.
And this is precisely what they ended up rolling out later.
And hardly any reporter said, Gee, you know, I kind of remember you kind of...
I'll do it in my Bill Gates.
I kind of remember you kind of, you know, said that...
Or maybe I can rock back. That's what I was going to say.
You've got to be authentic. You have to rock back and forth.
Yeah, exactly. I kind of remember you had this idea where you weren't going to be doing that.
So, yeah.
So, this is a great example of how, as Derek and Ryan were mentioning...
They present their choices to you, sort of like at the TSA checkpoint.
They claim that you're opting out of the scan and you're opting to get groped.
Well, you are the one who is imposing on me two false choices.
They're not choices. Like, do you want to get stabbed or shot?
I don't know. Where are you going to shoot me?
It's It's not my preference either way.
I'd rather avoid that.
And that, of course, brings us to some other information, how the federal government, and it has been revealed, that the federal government has been tracking people.
Reclaim the Net has a piece on this one.
They were tracking the unvaccinated.
Laura Ingram did a piece on this, and good for her.
Oh, by the way, somebody tried to set me up on a date with Laura way back, one of her producers.
That was interesting. Never happened, but yeah.
So Centers for Disease Control, folks, they have been revealed to have, by the national file, actually highlighted this, but reclaim the net mentions.
Tracking of the unvaccinated.
And Christine Moss writes, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC, quietly introduced a new program to track people who have not been so-called vaccinated against COVID-19 after they visit a doctor or go to a hospital.
Gee, I wonder if maybe we could be more like Australia.
That would be great. According to documents and a video highlighted by National File, but published back in 2021, actually published by the government agency.
In September of 2021, The ICD-10 Coordination and Maintenance Committee held a meeting to discuss new ICD-10 codes that the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics, NCHS, wanted to be created for marking people as partially vaccinated for COVID-19, Cowabunga 19.
And they've got the video, and if you feel like...
Bringing that up, Tony, no problem.
I can play it over here. This actually has been recorded by the CDC. It is the voice of tyranny.
One of the other things to bring up, Tony, is that when people look at these institutional moves, they're not questioning the institution.
These moves were always possible.
I often mention, going back to HIPAA, 1996, When they passed HIPAA, and I've mentioned this many times, so I hope people don't get tired of it.
If you go to the PDF of HIPAA, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, pages 75 to 94 of the PDF, and luckily over at MRCTV, they called it up.
We put it in some videos. People can see it on video in any of the videos I've done that involve HIPAA. But I've been warning people, the year that passed, thanks to so-called I'm a conservative, Orrin Hatch, and Ted Kennedy, working with Ted Kennedy, his pal, when Kennedy wasn't swimming out of Chappaquiddick Bay, away from drowning women.
You know, he was swimming a lot and other things too, but, you know, I mean, he's dead.
You don't want to speak ill. No, I will speak ill of Ted Kennedy.
I think he was a pretty ugly, ugly person.
But anyway... I should forgive him.
But anyway... He called the hotel to complain about the noise next door to the hotel room after he swam out and got back to the room?
You've got to be kidding me.
No, he called to complain about the noise next door because he had to get some rest.
It was the next morning that he announced and called everybody.
Do you... Do you think he was doing that almost like an alibi or something?
Like you thought maybe if he did that, they'd think he'd been in the room for longer?
Who knows? I mean, I don't think he was thinking that way.
I think he was just out of...
That's his personality came out that way.
You know, something else I was thinking of while you were talking.
I was on the Jack Allen show yesterday.
We were talking about the Spanish-American War.
Yeah, that was a great show.
It was awesome. Just me and Jack talking, you know, and...
I was thinking about that, and there's a little-known factoid about how this is before the income tax.
So they decided they would throw a tax on what they call a telephone tax or a telegraph tax.
Anyway, it was thrown onto, I believe, was it AT&T at the time, or one of the majors, the only major, because that's what we were talking about when there's no decentralization.
The government works with corporations to carry out policy.
They left that tax in place until the 1990s.
I remember it.
I didn't know when it started, but my mom was fairly old when she gave birth to me.
I had a multi-year gestation period.
It took me a long time to grow in the womb.
It was like 10 years. Anyway, Yeah, so she was fairly old when she gave birth to me.
And so she and my dad came from...
My dad was born in 1917 and my mom was born in 1923.
So they had a lot of memories of these things being instituted one after the other after the other.
And she used to tell me, she's like, she would show me the phone bill.
She's like, look at that, look at that.
And of course, they then turned it into the connectivity charge for cable and internet.
And that's all part of...
You also have that on your cell phone bill now, thanks to Al Gore.
He really pushed for that.
It's amazing too because these sorts of things that they impose when you see people starting to speak out about them, they'll be like, oh, that's a bad policy.
I don't like that policy.
It's like, look, the fact that they have done it, it doesn't matter what the amount is.
The fact that they have done it ought to tell you something.
The fact that they have imposed Section 230, the fact that they have done this with the CDC, That's all you need to know.
And again, you know, I felt I really did feel like Cassandra back in the 90s.
I mean, I don't know how many times I brought up HIPAA and I said, look, this is what's going to happen inside HIPAA. You can look it up.
Start on page 75.
Read to page 94.
It allows the Secretary of Health and Human Services to assign a unique medical identifier code to every person who visits any doctor that's affiliated with the federal government.
And from that point on, at any time, it is in there.
At any time, that department and other departments of the federal government can call up the medical information of anybody without a warrant.
And as I said, I used to mention this because left-wing people were appropriately upset that the W. Bush administration was getting people's Verizon phone records.
They said, how dare he?
You know, he's a Republican and he's getting that information.
He's doing it driving while Republican.
We can't have that.
But let's get somebody else like Barack Obama in there so that in 2014 they can collect our medical data.
Oh, that's awesome.
I'm liking that.
That's great. It's like I often say in Repo Man, you know, he comes back to visit his hippie parents.
They're staring at the television, smoking a joint.
And this poor kid, this poor punk kid's got no future.
He's just wandering around.
He opens up the refrigerator.
There's a can of like old, just says food.
It's like half open. He starts eating it cold with a spoon.
That's his dinner because the family can't make dinner, you know.
They can't be bothered. They're too busy getting stoned.
And he's like, and his mom says, Put it on a plate.
The kid's name is Otto. She says, put it on a plate, Otto.
You'll enjoy it more.
And he's like, mm-mm-mm.
Couldn't get any better than this, Mom.
This is swell.
And that's the way I feel about government.
Oh, well, the road to hell is paved with partisanship, I believe, if you want to go that way.
Well, we're coming up on the end of the first hour, and I see that the great Billy Ray Valentine is waiting in the wings.
We're going to add him here in just a second.
What I want to tell Gard, so I never, you know, again, this is, we Last minute we put the show together, and I appreciate everybody tuning in, and thanks so much to the Knight family.
It's always an honor. I love being able to fill in.
I hope this gives David a little bit of well-deserved rest.
This is a massive load the man carries on his shoulders every day, bringing you the news and analysis without any bias, and with his engineer mind and his intellect, we need him, and so I'm happy to support him with Wise Wolf, and we set up davidknight.gold, but I wanted to tell guards something.
My first radio program was in Dallas on 570 KLIF. It's one of the oldest radio stations there in Dallas.
I think it's still Cumulus.
But I was the black sheep.
They just really didn't know what to make of me.
They thought that when they signed me, when I got my hour every week, that I was kind of a cookie-cutter, conservative talk guy.
And then I started opposing war and opposing expansion of government and talking about bringing the jobs back.
And they didn't know what to make of me.
I was running for Congress at the time against Ralph Hall, and I didn't want to run against him.
I'd known him since I was a kid, but he was 90.
I thought he was leaving. It was his last term.
Anyway, we got to the end of the race.
He got to a runoff, and he called me up and asked me to come help him, and he trusted me.
So I got to have the only interview We're good to go.
We got the clock stopped and I go, sir, you make radio easy.
I didn't have to do much anything.
I mean, all I did was do the intro and I did the outro.
That's pretty much it. And Ralph Hall carried it.
That's what the great Gar Goldsmith just did.
I see Billy Ray Valentine is here along with Donald Jeffries.
Let's add both of these gentlemen right here.
Unafraid, unintimidated, unjabbed.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the...
The entire crew of America, I'm plugged here, hosting the David, along with the honorary co-host, which is Guard Goldsmith.
Welcome, gentlemen. Hey, good to be here.
What's going on? How's everybody doing?
Everybody's great. We're streaming live.
I've had no hiccups, at least not that I know of.
It seems like we're going out on...
I believe we're going out on Rumble.
I'm not able to pull that up right here on this side of the show, but it looks like we're able to get that out as well.
So Gard and I did no commercials.
He literally just carried an hour of radio with great analysis.
We were just machine-gunning through headlines.
I've never seen anything quite like it, Billy, and I've been on radio a while, so it's good to have Gard here.
What's on your radar, BRV? Absolutely nothing.
I was listening to a little bit of you guys while I was waiting and you guys were talking about how in Australia, you know, they're consolidating everything into this one ID, right?
And that happened here in New York a long time ago, right?
So we have everything here.
I haven't gotten, right, because I've been walking around with an expired ID for about eight years.
I haven't renewed it.
I do have my passport, which is still good.
But when I ever have to go back To renew, it's literally going to be like, hey, we're going to put everything, your passport, everything into this one car.
And of course, we don't have money attached to it yet, but it's only a matter of time.
This is what Apple Pay was designed to do.
Ease us into this, right?
And even if it wasn't meant in a nefarious manner, it is, in all actuality, doing that.
It is easing everybody into it.
And it's generational, like I spoke about before, I think last time I came on.
Our kids and our kids' kids, they're going to be, you know, fully in on this.
They're not going to know a difference.
What is that?
It's on my phone. I'll just pay for it on my phone and keep on moving because most of the people here in New York do it.
So many stores are cashless at this point.
And this is how they're going to push people into it because so many stores are going cashless and they're blaming the environment for it or they're citing the environment.
We need to go cashless because it's better for the environment.
Or we need to go cashless because there's less contact points between you and I. And then, you know, we won't spread whatever virus is around or COVID or whatever.
This is what they're saying. And I view it as an inevitability, especially in big cities.
It's inevitable, in my opinion, that this is going to be the majority Of the way transactions are made, of the way life is carried out.
Of course, there are going to be those who separate themselves, but that's not easy to do.
And if you want to do that, you should start now.
Right now. You know, because it's not looking good, right?
So here in New York, I mean, I have to go...
I have to go update my picture.
I think I was like freaking 25 when I had that picture.
And it's totally expired.
So let's see what I encounter when I get there and what my options are.
But they already have your passport.
Everything goes on this card.
And that's it.
That's the way people are going to operate moving forward.
So I'm not very optimistic about pushing back on this fully.
I think we need to, I think some of us will be successful at not including ourselves into this process, but Society-wise, I think a lot of people are going to want it, seek it out, and look at the convenience of it.
It's, again, sacrificing convenience, you know, or liberty for convenience, right?
So they'll see the convenience of it, and eventually, you know, it'll probably just, like, cease being a physical card, right?
I don't know, your fingerprint will do everything, you know, or they'll put something in you.
And I know we've been talking about that in the alternative media for some time, but it's a reality now that we need to really look at and discuss openly, honestly, and truthfully, and start really evaluating our options and saying, okay, this looks like it's coming.
What are we going to do?
It's your digital slavery starter pack.
Right. Get signed up now.
I was thinking, you know, I'm a big fan of what the Nigerians have done.
They tried to, you know, they were using Bitcoin and it was functional and all around the country.
It was something they adopted early.
And so the central banksters came in like, oh, we'll try the experiment.
We'll give them the CBDC. They're going to love it.
If you like Bitcoin, then you'll love this fiat garbage.
And they didn't like it.
And now in Nigeria, a Bitcoin, because it's so sought after and used and traded, it was like 30, I think like a week ago they put out an article on Zero Hedge, $36,000 for one Bitcoin while Bitcoin's trading at 22, 23 right now on the open spot market.
Again, I think I'm kind of in a camp.
It depends on how I feel when I wake up in the morning.
The central planners and the Davos crowd and the depopulation enthusiasts, they have a lot of fake money, but they're not really that smart.
I'm not going to give them a lot of credit.
When you have a fake printing press and you have access to the levers of power, That doesn't make you a genius.
It just makes you... You're there.
That's pretty much it. And you have that access.
But I'm not completely sold that they're going to be successful.
As long as we get this information out and get people...
Give them the information.
Get them educated. Let them make a choice.
And then look at the options of decentralization.
What can it do? I mean, there's a...
It's a lot more attractive than a one-size-fits-all tyranny state.
Don Jeffries, welcome to the David Knight Show.
I pulled up one of your articles as well.
Your latest Bullies, Transgenders, and Popular Cliques, if you wanted to talk about that, from DonaldJeffries.media.
But I wanted to make sure I welcomed you to the show, sir.
How are you? Fine.
Thanks for having me here. Good to be in such good company.
Yeah, and what Billy Ray was talking about is...
Very similar to what, you know, this goes back to probably the 1970s and none dare call a conspiracy by Gary Allen.
Right-wingers used to warn of this national ID card.
And it sounds like very much that's the direction that this is headed.
They want to consolidate everything.
And then, of course, you would go beyond that, of course, to the microchipping and the mark of the beast and all that.
But we're definitely trending towards that unfortunate direction.
I agree with you on that.
It's the battle of our lifetime.
Sometimes I just think about what I do and having the opportunity to speak with great minds like yours.
As a matter of fact, I want to veer off for a second.
Michael Pomeroy in the Rockfin chat says, it takes four people to fill in for David.
And I started laughing because I said something similar, I think, last time while we were all on air, kind of that JFK reference to when all the Nobel laureates were at the White House at the dining area.
And he says, this is the most collection of brain power seen in this room since Thomas Jefferson dined alone.
Well, that's kind of the... That's where we are on day.
The last time, the only time that it's had more brain power is when David Knight hosted Alone yesterday.
And he'll be back, ladies and gents.
We're just filling in.
It's nice to have a fresh show and not a reboot.
And again, we can promote and drop commercials.
And you guys can tip. All this goes to David.
I know I'm not David and none of these guys are either, but we definitely support him.
Gar, did you have anything you wanted to add on that?
Yeah, you know, I just wanted to mention, to paraphrase that ancient caller from Rush Limbaugh, dittos to what you just said.
A little reference to the lost Rush Limbaugh.
Yeah, I disagree with him on many things, but agree with him on others.
Yeah, you know, back in October, I had the opportunity to write a piece for MRCTV about how the Federal Reserve was announcing a pilot program for major US banks to manage what they called climate-related financial risks.
And that is similar to the terminology that this international organization does for stores where they started to apply a sales code for gun shop purchases.
And one of the major officials in New York City was very delighted because he had worked very hard about that and he actually threatened, this is the comptroller, the comptroller of New York City had threatened the major credit card companies that if they didn't adopt these codes, it was sort of a pronged effort.
If they didn't adopt these codes, he would start to change the management of the retirement plans for the city workers.
To make sure that their investments were pulled out of these credit card banks.
And so these credit card companies adopted the codes for gun shop sales.
This guy, the comptroller for New York City, says this is really going to help law enforcement.
Now, he didn't have to make the connections there.
Just by saying it, you know that the government has wanted this and they will find ways to get this private data about gun shop sales.
It doesn't specify any differential between a different code for a gun or ammunition or whatever, but they're working towards that.
And this Federal Reserve ESG financial related risk to climate from October is a similar thing.
The Federal Reserve Board then announced, as they say, that six of the nation's largest banks will participate in a pilot climate scenario analysis exercise Designed to enhance the ability of supervisors and firms to measure and manage climate-related financial risks.
And there's a term right there.
It's an assumptive term.
What do they mean by climate-related financial risks?
Well, they'll tell you what those are, and you will have to accept them.
And then they will have the codes, and then you will have the digital ID, and they will manage CBDC, and they will say, sorry, But you know, you getting that little see-do, that's verbatim.
Going on that trip to Italy, you've exceeded your quotient of carbon credits this year.
So they will say, it's too much risk.
We just can't allow your corporation to do this, or X or Y. So they are trying in every way possible.
Going back to the Gutierrez thing we played last hour, They're trying in every way possible.
Financial, communications, all of this is this giant fascistic thing that is trying to lock people like Billy Ray into being unable to move unless he conforms to what they want.
Well, it's another reason they push for the cities and the consolidation of people, you know, that they want us off the rural lands.
You know, David talks about that, the Agenda 2030, Agenda 21, just reshaping things, the mega cities, the smart cities, the sidewalk labs, all that.
It's, again, to consolidate and push you into a control grid.
And that's why decentralization, again, it's the, you know, people are starting, I homestead.
Really, it's Melissa that homesteads.
My wife, Melissa, she's the one that really pushes that and builds it.
I just go to work and come to the shop and sell gold and silver and do broadcasts.
That's most of my thing, but...
I think there's a big movement going on and people doing that, just trying to get away from this because people can see it coming.
I think it's even just in the national consciousness, we can see that it's coming and they're pushing it.
And of course, they do tell you, but they do it in a way, like Gutierrez, you're talking about the banality of evil we talked about in the first hour.
It's sometimes boring. You know, like you expect someone to come out.
I mean, we have the Klaus Schwabian figures, these Bond villain types.
We do have those, you know, and they roll those people out.
But a lot of times it's just this, you know, and the crazy things that were said over the last few years, guard by some of the elites and the WHO and surrounding entities.
It's amazing they keep getting away with it, but it's the way they deliver it.
And people just don't notice, you know, like when, remember when Omicron.
Specters. Go ahead.
No, I was going to say, I just think there are so many vectors.
They throw so many darts and people just can't even know about all of them.
Luckily, this is where the decentralization of communications...
I spend so much time in my day going to so many different sites now.
There's so many different substacks.
There's so many different websites. You've got so many good people, so many different shows that people are putting on.
But I try to absorb everything I can because there's information that I don't want to miss.
That could affect my neighbor.
And it's amazing.
I don't look at it as a negative, but it definitely has changed the way I've had to live.
Well, did you guys know that Biden, he said that he has...
Most of his women in his cabinet are women.
Did you know that? That was mind-blowing to me.
I never was able to put that together.
Half of the women in his cabinet are actually women.
Yeah. I mean, what's the Freudian slip there?
I mean, there's something in his addled brain, his globalist mind, you know, or maybe it's his clone.
I don't know, but he's rotating that through, and somehow it spits out that, and I wonder what that really means.
And now he's got the State of the Union tonight, which, you know, I was texting back and forth with a really good friend last night, and I said, you know that we could have avoided this had it not been for Woodrow Wilson?
Because Thomas Jefferson, the third president, he said, I don't want to go and do a State of the Union delivery.
So he put it in writing.
And after that, everybody followed his example for all those years until Woodrow Wilson.
And again, it's the guy who brought us the State of the Union back.
So now we have to deal with all of this.
It could have still been in writing, ladies and gentlemen, had it not been for Woodrow Wilson because Thomas Jefferson didn't like to give public speeches.
He was a writer. And anyway, Woodrow Wilson, the Ph.D. president who brought you the Federal Reserve and the 17th Amendment and the income tax and the war.
To make the world safe for Hitler and Stalin, he also brought you the State of the Union.
So if you're in any way angered or annoyed tonight, you can thank Woodrow.
We're going to tune in for sure.
I can't wait to see this.
Like, really, it's my Super Bowl.
So I'm going to be happy to tune in to watch this, man.
Let me tell you. Hey, do you think they could get Sam Smith to dress up as the devil for it brought to you by Pfizer?
What? What went on there?
Like, I mean, and I've divorced myself from most popular music, you know, for call me old, I don't care, right?
I just cannot relate.
So I don't watch, I used to watch the Grammys religiously.
I don't watch anymore. And the next morning, I mean, my phone had blown up.
All the social media was crazy.
All I see is this dude, Sam Smith, dressed up all in red, flashing Illuminati all over the place.
Right? So if you don't want people to throw conspiracy theories at you left and right, Stop giving them ammunition to throw conspiracy theories at you.
Good Lord, what's going on here?
So I have to watch this footage.
I still haven't watched.
Isaac Weishaupt hit me up a couple of times, and he's doing a few shows on it.
Go check that out. And I'm going to watch for myself because it's supposed to be nuts what went down.
They don't even hide it anymore.
It used to be a little more subtle than that, but from what I saw, it was almost like a black mass with music.
They're celebrating who they worship.
We've talked about this giant freak show element.
Especially if you tune in and you look for the female celebrities, They used to look good, or they used to attempt to look good, and the fashions were, you know, usually provocative, but they weren't, you know, like something from outer space.
Now, it's, I mean, you had the, I don't know who the, I think it's a woman.
What's the huge obese black with the one name?
I don't know what the hell her name is, or his name.
Lizzo. Lizzo. Lizzo. I don't know.
Is that a biological woman?
I don't even know. But she was parading around in a thong, you know, like, Why couldn't Susanna Hoff of the Bangles come out in a thong or something like that?
Nobody wants to see in a thong.
It's a celebration of ugliness.
It's a celebration of obesity.
It's a celebration of Satan. No celebration of music.
Is rock and roll even represented there at these things anymore?
They give the white people ridiculous country music with The Travis Tripp types, you know, but like they give us NASCAR. But I mean, it's like nobody's really, I don't think most people that are connoisseurs of music are interested in that, but the rest of it is just, I don't even know what it is.
And now Beyonce has won more Grammys than anybody in history, really?
She's the greatest musical artist in the history.
I mean, this is just a travesty, but anybody that, I just, my friend Bob Wilson was watching it for some unknown reason.
I said, why are you putting yourself through that?
And I saw Mark Dice, you know, covering it, but If you want to know where we are, you just turn on these award ceremonies and it's a giant freak show.
There's profanity.
There's not even any attempt at decorum or even organization.
It's just people walking out in their pajamas or these ridiculous fashions that look like somebody was on LSD when they made them.
And the celebration of obesity and ugliness is everywhere.
So it's fitting.
It's America 2.0 on display.
I can't, I don't know who's who anymore.
Like, I'm not that old, but I don't know anything in entertainment.
I don't know about sports.
All I know is that I saw the, there's Satan worship, and Madonna looks like the donkey.
I mean, whatever, the goat horn hair, and I'm just like, what is, what fresh hell is this?
I really don't know.
It's, it's, it's, It's disturbing.
And we have to ask ourselves, you know, we're in this realm of, I'm a proud conspiracy analyst.
How much of this is manufactured?
It's all manufactured.
Everything. It's all manufactured.
And, like, none of these, well, I can't say any of these, but the majority of these artists have no idea what's going on.
They tell them to put these things on.
You think Sam Smith came up with this in his mind?
No. Somebody sat him down and, here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna carry out an entire satanic ritual on stage.
It won't really be a ritual.
You know it's not a ritual. I know it's not a ritual, but everybody else will think it is, and we're gonna sit down and do this.
This is what they do.
Lizzo might be authentic.
She's back. She's gone.
So that's all her, probably.
But, I mean, it's all created.
This is what music has become.
This is why you and I... I want to think that you and I were part of the greatest era of music period.
The 90s was the best when it came to rock and roll, to hip-hop.
I don't know too much about country.
Everybody else that listens to country out there, you guys are the last...
A beacon of real music that uses instruments.
And that's being taken over now.
It's being commercialized.
It's country pop now.
And I still love some hip hop, right?
But I understand it's not, you know, instrument driven, even though it is sometimes.
Like, there's a middle ground there or whatever.
But we were part of the last great musical era.
It's all been downhill after 2000.
And like Don said, the Grammys reflect that.
Where's the rock and roll?
I know Ozzy Osbourne won a couple of Grammys or maybe won, but there's no new acts that are really prominent.
Maybe Imagine Dragons and that's a blend.
It's a mix of pop and rock music.
But it's all created.
All these artists Let's take Beyoncé, for instance.
She can really sing, right?
And she can dance.
But she's not a musical act.
She sings and she dances.
It's like a dance act.
This is what a lot of the Grammys has become.
It's just dancing and putting together pageantry.
That's it. It's not really music.
There's music behind it.
But that's it. So that's where we've gotten.
All of this is fabricated.
To the point, I mean, including all the...
Illuminati references. It's gone mainstream.
They recognize this.
They know it's going to cause controversy and they throw it all in there.
Is it really Satan worship?
Maybe. I don't know.
With Madonna, you really have to start thinking maybe it's really Satan worship.
How many times is she doing this?
But all this other stuff, I don't know.
I have to go watch Sam Smith.
I think I'm going to do that after we get off because it's supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
As far as a visual spectacle.
Anyway, go ahead. Don't eat beforehand, though.
Thanks for the tip.
I won't. Where does this go, gentlemen?
We'll maybe do a roundtable on this and then we'll check some headlines.
You see the erosion of the culture.
It's imploding. We've known this for years.
It's only getting worse. Is there a point where it reaches a bottom and then we start to see a pushback from society?
They just abandon this?
How long are they going to be able to continue this?
Down this road of no talent, no spirit, nothing new, just degrading what's so-called entertainment.
I don't know. Can they continue this?
Will it end, and will there be a renaissance of culture, or are we just in that period of time where it's going to zero?
Can I jump in real quick?
Yeah, go ahead. I am, again, not very optimistic about where this is going.
AI is coming up with music now.
I think at a point, we are going to see...
My kids learn piano.
They're pretty good. If they were super committed, they'd be really, really good, like freaking Lincoln Center level.
They're really good. They're just not committed to it.
So they play whenever they play.
But I make sure that at least they have that.
I think we're going to come to a point where people that play piano is going to be like a novel to them.
It's going to be like a rarity.
It's like, oh my god, that guy's playing that thing.
That's pretty cool. Let's sit and look at it.
Because in actuality, we don't have to do it anymore.
I can bring up one of these music, Logic.
I can bring up a Logic program and Start screwing with it and eventually I'll have keyboards.
You know, there are keyboards there. You just screw with it and it happens.
So it's going to become easier and easier to make music.
Not good music, but you can make music.
I think instruments are going to fade out and be a thing of the past.
Some people are still keeping my hope alive.
There's a couple of people on Instagram that still do guitar and young kids, you know, that have bands, which is dope.
You know, I think it's very important to keep that, right?
But largely, I think we have a problem.
You know, conductor, we have a problem.
Like, a big one. You know, and we, this is the way to combat it, is try to get your kids, if you have kids, to play instruments.
You know, even if they don't want to, like, give them, you know, I don't know, a 30-minute guitar session once a week.
Learn guitar, learn the piano, you know, learn how to play a saxophone, you know, or something, you know, and to keep it alive.
Because it's, I think, it's fading, unfortunately.
You can see it. You can see the symptoms of it at the Grammy Awards.
See how many people come out and play an instrument when they're performing.
They don't. You know, even hip-hop, and I love going to hip-hop shows, but I've been to so many shows.
I know Garden's been to a ton of shows.
I've seen almost every band in the 90s that there is to see, and some in the 2000s, and I'm a big fan of hip-hop.
You can't compare the two in a live setting.
You know, maybe DMX. I saw DMX once, and it was incredible.
But he had so much charisma.
You know, so much energy.
But hip-hop is just people on stage talking to you with a beat behind it.
But that's what the kids find amusing now.
Go check a hip-hop show nowadays.
People are moshing like there's a band behind them, but there's nothing.
It's just a guy and music.
So that's where we're headed, in my opinion.
I know the philosopher Nietzsche said that without music, life would be a mistake.
But I'm still waiting for Bill Gates to start depopulation records.
He's got everything else.
He's got the media. He's got farmland.
He does a really good job with vaccine.
Maybe it's depopulation records is the next thing.
Donald Jeffries, what do you think about it?
Yeah, well, I've made my comments about music.
But again, this is a culture at large.
We're basically an anti-culture at this point.
We've created, there's a ghettoization of it.
We've taken a lot of the worst elements from the inner cities and, you know, celebrated it, including language.
You know, we basically have an Ebonics culture at this point where everybody's just purposely dumbing themselves down.
You look at Hollywood. Hollywood is an absolute joke.
Look at the show Velma.
That's out there. Not people watching it.
And again, I wasn't a huge Scooby-Doo fan, but it's not like it was, you know, art or something.
But they're purposely, again, trying to provoke people.
It has like the lowest rating on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb that's ever been recorded.
If you go to YouTube, they have people dissecting it every day and talking about how it's the worst thing ever.
And HBO Max is committed to it.
Or HBO whatever. No, no, we're bringing it back for another season.
They want to stick people's face in it.
I guess people that love Scooby-Doo, it's just because Scooby-Doo isn't on the show, just to let you know.
That's Scooby-Doo, but he's not on the show.
So that's the kind of thing where we have, it's all about an agenda.
They're not trying to create anything.
I know from my world, the last great novelist was Kurt Vonnegut.
There's no literature out there.
I know, I was able to get one novel published, but even if you could get literary fiction public, real fiction, the kind that people that like to read still celebrate, Dickens, Dostoevsky, Orwell.
You can't get it published now because people won't read it.
People don't have the mind because they've been dumbed down so much.
And that's this culture at large.
Music, films where there's nothing.
I don't know. If you watch any movie that's been out in the last couple of years, first of all, you have to go through the incredible woke agenda, which is like you're hitting you over the head with it nonstop.
It's not like it's subtle or anything, but they can't write.
And as a writer, I'm watching it.
It's like they can't resolve anything.
Almost every time the premise, maybe I have an intriguing premise and it draws me in, and then usually it just ends.
Or it ends and I don't know what the hell happened.
I have to go online and look for spoilers.
I don't understand. What was that?
And that's the way it is.
And they don't even try.
They actually celebrate it.
It's like, you know, look at something like The Simpsons, and it goes back a ways, but The Simpsons was great for like seven, eight years, and it's been horrible now for, you know, almost 25 years or whatever, and they celebrate it.
If you look at what these, they created that comic book guy That was represented by their fans, saying, worst episode ever, because they said it for years, and they didn't care.
They do it on purpose.
So at this point, they're not trying to create any...
I don't know what they're doing it for.
Ratings don't matter. Jesse Ventura's conspiracy show was the highest-rated show True TV ever had.
Doesn't matter. Canceled.
Something like Velma is the lowest rated show anybody's ever seen.
It doesn't matter. Bring it back.
It's about an agenda.
And this is celebrating everything you see now.
Art is supposed to be about beauty, uplifting stuff.
I don't even mention art.
I don't know what artists they have.
I know one in my neighborhood.
He can't get it because he actually knows how to paint.
You have to be Jackson Pollock and throwing paint on a canvas and killing a roach in the middle of it and leaving it there and having it be celebrated and put in museums.
And we know the CIA financed it, by the way.
So I wouldn't be surprised if we find out the CIA financed some of these really awful writers.
You know, to try to promote them and some of these awful filmmakers as well and some of these awful musical artists because it's the same premise, right?
They're destroying all that together collectively makes up a culture.
And then you have the discourse, the textualization of whatever, of...
Of language, where it's, you know, U, the letter U, or R, the letter R, you know, that kind of thing, basically shorthand.
People know, the young people know how to communicate like that.
It's got pidgin English.
You combine that with ebonics, the two together, and just, they've dumbed down the society so much, so they probably couldn't appreciate it.
I don't think they're intellectually capable.
We know that they're losing, what, five IQ points on average for every generation or something like that.
So at this point, this may be all.
They've created a culture that the public we have now can handle.
But it's very sad because it's a reflection of where we are as a society.
I mean, it's just basically a Lord of the Flies thing.
I mean, something like that Grammy Award show.
It's like a bunch of kids.
You know, they're all troubled and at a special school, you know, for problem students decided, okay, we're going to put on a show.
It's not like Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland.
You know, they're going to put on a show and that's what you would get.
Troubled kids, you know, and there's no adult around to say, you know, this is...
I think this is going to be offensive to have an actual satanic ritual.
We're having a few too many transgenders.
Can we have a few heterosexuals on here?
At least one, maybe?
But they don't care.
This is all about an agenda.
It's America 2.0.
I agree with Don Jeffries.
Guard Goldsmith, closing thoughts.
Well, you know, during my little stint at Star Trek Voyager, to sort of touch on what Don brought up and what Billy Ray brought up, and it's interesting because one of the problems that I saw with certain stories, the ones that were the weaker stories, was that they would fit a pattern.
And the pattern was that everything would lead up to some We're good to go.
It would be to go to the science advisor for the show and get him to come up with some seemingly tech-sounding name of something, and then it would insert that in the end, and that would provide them the way to escape, the way to get out.
If you look at the very first episode of Star Trek Enterprise, it might have been the first episode, they used teleportation for the first time.
They don't actually resolve the story.
It's to present teleportation.
That's how they get out of it.
So, it's sort of analogous to what we're seeing now.
People are using tech, that tech, parentheses, just insert whatever, go to the science guy, get a tech-sounding name, and put it in, and that'll be the answer for our story, and I won't have to work.
I won't have to figure this out.
And those were the worst stories, because they didn't have any real danger, they didn't have any real plot or whatever, and when you repeatedly do that, There isn't any danger.
You know, life is dangerous. We encounter problems and it's part of the human existence and part of our satisfaction to work these things out.
So like Billy Ray talking about the music.
Yeah, it's been downhill ever since the 90s.
Don talking about similar things.
We don't see...
I think there's always been a portion of the population that is not going to be interested in playing music.
They're going to use music as wallpaper.
They're going to listen to a pre-programmed beat.
I was listening to you, Billy Ray, talking about the change in hip-hop.
I think one of the few that has emerged as actually being of that new style, that sort of mocks the new style, even while they're being very witty, is Sleaford Mods, the guys from England.
Those two dudes, one dude just stands there with a beer and he hits the beat.
With a little background thing and he stands there bopping in the background while this other guy gives ingenious rhythmic poetry.
Just amazing stuff.
Send me a link. What's that?
Send me a link when you can.
Oh, you got it. You got it.
Absolutely. I think one of the best ones...
Well, anyway, yeah. So there will still be these exceptions to the rule.
You know, every kind of new development will see something ingenious, but the vast majority of it is going to be dross.
It's because most people...
Just, they're focused on other things.
What bothers me is, so I think there's always going to be room for inventiveness and there will always be niches, but I think those niches are getting smaller.
And that's what bothers me.
I think there are a lot of people, and I'm one of them, there are a lot of people who could have over even our generation now, or, you know, we sort of represent one generation or a generation and a half, sort of, you know, multiple years here, but, you know, I... Didn't learn an instrument.
But I can get whole symphonic compositions in my head.
It happens all the time.
And I can't get it out because I don't know how to read music.
And part of the reason I didn't know how to read music was because I would ask my teachers why things were on the scale.
And they couldn't answer that for me.
So there's been a generational decline in some cases, especially with public schooling and this whole idea of getting kids acclimatized to their being social that starts to suppress the outliers and doesn't raise up the people who really achieve because raising up the people who really achieve is actually, according to the postmodernist Marxist, cultural Marxist way, is actually hurting people The people who might not be achieving.
And that allows everybody to be lazy and just listen to the pre-programmed dross.
Why bother? You know?
Agreed on that, brother.
And I know that you are an artist.
I mean, with your novels and writing for Star Trek and The Outer Limits and all the other publications you've been in, I mean, you're expressing yourself through writing.
And again, I think that's what we're lacking here is just creativity and individuality.
That's That's not a core virtue anymore.
That's taught to be bad.
You're outside of the system.
We're taught to get in line now.
That's what they tell the indoctrination centers and schools and kids, you know, to wear your mask and stand apart and do that forever.
And if you're outside of that, then you're bad, right?
Right. You're not to be shown courtesy and all the rest.
It's the society we're creating.
And again, I think the ultimate rebellion is to look for beauty and to be an individual.
Tony, if I could mention also, you mentioned that rebellion thing.
That's one of the things that I think is really important is I think a lot of these cultural Marxists...
They lever the tendency of teenagers to be rebellious, and they start to steer it in the way that they want to steer it.
They corporatize it, they market it, and then they start to work with various groups to try to steer it the way that they want to steer it.
So if you look at things like punk rock, Punk started very early on.
You got the MC5 Stooges up in Ann Arbor and Detroit.
Just epic. Yeah, amazing, amazing stuff.
They influenced people in New York and in England.
You get the Sex Pistols, you get the Ramones.
Over on the West Coast a few years later, you get Black Flag starting around D.C., I should say.
And a lot of these bands, they're angry because of the...
Flat, stale environment that has just locked in music for so long.
But then the corporations recognize that that anger, as John Lydon said, Johnny Rotten said, anger is an energy.
So they can use that because they see this rebellion in the kids.
And all that turns into is what you get in the Grammys.
It's just one-upsmanship.
How much darker can we get?
Because once they recognize that that is marketable, they're going to market sex and anger because that appeals to teenagers.
And this goes back, you know, I talked in Boliocracy about how the media started, they created teenagers basically in the 1950s.
You know, the first one was with the wild one, you know, with Marley, Rebel Without a Cause, you know, the sudden teenage angst, Catcher in the Rye, all these things that came out at the same time.
So those teenagers, unlike, you know, I don't think there's any evidence, for instance, that Depression-era teenagers were, We're good to go.
You know, the bad boy.
And this, it plays into bullies.
And that message was resounded for years.
And so they're still sending a message.
But the message now is they are turning, I don't know what they're promoting.
I think they're trying to kill off the sex drive.
I really do. Because, you know, when you're having the, whatever, I keep forgetting her name, the one name, you know, walking around in a thong.
Yeah. I can't be to try to stimulate anyone.
And that's the problem.
They're celebrating ugliness.
They're celebrating hideousness, hideous fashions, overweight, everything.
They're selling something.
And I wrote in my most recent sub-stack about how the premise has changed since I wrote Bullyocracy.
I don't know that the jocks are the popular ones in high school anymore.
That may have been turned on its head.
It may be now that the transgenders, whoever comes out transitioning, Is the popular kids.
I know you'll get in trouble if you bully a transgender now, where in the past, if you bullied a gay or something like that, the school would cover up for the popular kid.
Always. That's what bullyocracy is about.
Now, I don't know.
So it could be that maybe the jocks are marginalized now.
I really don't know. And with the celebration of ugliness and obesity, I don't know who's prom queen anymore.
Or if it even is a queen.
That may be wrong.
Maybe it's a non-binary person.
I don't know. So things have changed.
The messages they're sending out now is confusion.
And I think that's that they want to sell.
But it fits in well with this Anti-culture, as Tony mentioned, arts about beauty.
This is celebrating ugliness in all its forms.
There's no beauty being celebrated.
Look at art or whatever's out there.
Everything is either music that's not really music or you just sit there and say, what the hell is that?
That's not any good. Art that a preschooler could do that's being celebrated.
Literature that's like chick lit.
It's disposable fast food literature that won't last five years.
And then, of course, films and television shows where, again, they're not going to last.
There's no Alfred Hitchcock or Frank Cappers out there making work in the film world.
I agree with Gard when he says that it's niche, right?
And the doors are closing in, right?
The walls are closing in on this.
You're gonna find artists that are good, you know, no matter what, in every era.
You're gonna find it, but it's just becoming less and less and less and less.
As far as Don's point with the schools, right?
And I'm seeing it with my kids.
The one thing that I will say that's come out of this that's good is that there's a lot more acceptance.
It wasn't when I went to school, or any of us.
I was semi-athletic, and I had geek tendencies.
Geek is a good thing now.
You know, if you're into comic books, if you're into, you know, Dungeons and Dragons, that's dope.
You know, and everybody's cool with it.
You know, they're like, oh, you're into that.
That's cool. You're into this. That's cool.
You know, like my kids, you know, when I was in school, I had to have name brand stuff on.
Otherwise, I'd get ridiculed relentlessly.
Relentlessly. And we didn't have money, you know, so I would wear shoes or sneakers from Payless and they would just, oh my God, it was the end of the world until I actually finally got some money and was able to buy stuff on my own, largely in high school.
And then I went to Catholic school and I had a uniform on which helped things, you know.
But my kids, you know, and I still carry around that mentality because I think, you know, it's high school.
Like, you can't go to school wearing that here.
You know, put this on. My kids have no idea.
They don't care. They'll go to school wearing whatever the hell.
No one makes fun of them.
You know, and my kids aren't particularly athletic, you know, and they're just cool.
You know, they're cool with the athletes and they're cool with with those who aren't.
So that's pretty that's a good thing.
Like, I'm not worried about my kids being bullied, at least not in the schools that they're in at the moment, you know.
And so there's a lot more acceptance that's happened, which which I think it's welcomed, you know, even though I know people will have different opinions on all of that and what that means, but I think that's a positive thing.
If we're going to map out the positives, I think that's a really positive thing that's going on.
And ultimately, it's not the way it was when we were kids.
And I felt like when we were kids, it was very different.
It was tough, for me anyway, here in the Bronx.
And I went to school in Manhattan, and it was still kind of tough.
They would beat you up for no reason.
I had to learn how to fight very quickly and defend myself.
My kids don't know anything about that.
And I still live in the Bronx.
That's how different it is, which is good.
I think that's a good thing.
And they're accepting of LGBT. And that's normalizing the...
That sector of society, because when we were kids, again, it wasn't a thing.
You couldn't go around and say you were gay.
Not here. That was a problem.
You could not say that.
Now it's very accepting.
And what it's leading towards, unfortunately, I don't have a problem with the LGBT community.
I have gay friends that are marvelous people.
And I hate to have to preface it like that, because when you do that, it's like, oh, you're only doing that to justify your next point.
And I get this, right?
But what's going on is, sex is now, it's become casual to the point where it doesn't matter.
And for men, very stereotypical what I'm about to say, but I think it's true.
When men had multiple wives, I think it was for a reason.
A man can impregnate many women at once.
A woman can only be pregnant one time for nine months.
So there's a difference there, right?
But sex is so cheapened now on both sides, for men and for women, that the connection isn't there anymore.
And I think what it'll lead to, it's just recreational.
It's not about love.
It's just recreational.
It's Brave New World.
And we're going down to a point where I think they're going to try.
And nobody's having kids anymore.
That's another thing. Everybody's having sex.
Nobody's having kids. So that's exactly what the Brave New World maps out.
Kids are in a lab. You have to say, oh, I'd like to have sex with you at 4 p.m.
Let's try that. And eventually, that'll be done.
It'll be sexless like Don is talking about.
You just look at them and my book on the Plandemic is just about ready.
I'll be turning in the publisher very soon, masking the truth.
But the birth rates have plunged all over the world.
I mean, you had, I don't know how many states in the union within the last couple of years reported for the first time in history, more deaths than births.
I mean, this is revolutionary stuff that's going on.
If you combine that with the transgender, the transgender agenda, which is all about stopping procreation.
Everything about it is turning girls into boys and boys into girls, making them all twisted and confused.
But the bottom line is they're not going to be able to have biological kids.
So you combine what the jab is doing to death rates and what the transgender group, you can see the eugenicists are achieving their dream.
There's going to be less people, however you look at it.
I agree with that. I think that's a planned operation.
There's a huge difference between toleration and glorification.
That's where we've reached glorification.
It's not only you have to be equal and everything's okay and you're accepted, now you're better than everyone else.
We're putting you up on a pedestal and then you get the guy They put in charge of nuclear waste disposal who wears dog masks and still put his purse at the airport.
So I think that's kind of where you end up.
And I think that's what Biden might have been like in his globalist addled mind was like, a lot of women in my administration are actually women.
I think that was sitting around in his head.
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Yeah, guys, you know, I was thinking about what Tony brought up, that comment of...
Joe Biden about, you know, half the women in his administration are women.
And I thought, you know, he better not ask Ketanji Brown Jackson about that because she can't tell.
She was specifically asked by Marsha Blackburn, Senator Blackburn, and she can't tell what a man or a woman is.
And it is truly breathtaking that they've gotten to that point.
And, you know, I have to say also, We talk a little bit about, Billy Ray, you brought up a really good point about how people in certain generations behind us now don't have to experience the kind of stresses and worries that maybe they used to have.
Maybe there are many other kinds of worries that I haven't really considered and I don't want to be blind to that.
But as far as acceptance goes and things like that, maybe in some areas it's not as bad.
And what I find interesting is I mentioned anger is an energy.
That term and how some of the big mega corporations and certain politicians will latch on to anger and try to channel it in whatever way they want to channel it.
And I thought about it. I don't know if you guys heard about this story about how there's this weird tipping point where, and I don't know exactly where it is, where this push for more acceptance can be a great thing.
But at the same time, it can be very, very destructive of culture.
So I take as the example, over the weekend I wrote a piece about how the Welsh Rugby Union Rugby League for years has seen people in the crowds sing Delilah by Tom Jones.
And it's become something of an anthem.
But they sing the chorus of the song.
And many people are unaware that the song is a lament Sung from the perspective, almost in an Edgar Allan Poe, telltale heart type way, sung from the perspective of a man who's killed his lover out of jealousy.
And, you know, he says, why did you do this to me?
Why did you leave? I had the knife, you know, and then I used the knife and she will live no more, you know?
And it's a great, dramatic song.
You know, it was Tom Jones's first number one, 1968 number one hit.
And yet, This is what we're seeing.
The Rugby Union people have said, we're going to no longer have that song sung.
I guess maybe they would have someone do some music in the background and the crowd would sing sort of like they do at Boston Red Sox games when they do Neil Diamond stuff.
So people are saying, Tom Jones has said, I'm proud of this song.
They say, oh, it's violence against women.
It's like, look, first of all, if you're just singing the chorus, then it has nothing to do with violence against women, unless you're trying to talk about the meaning of the whole song.
And then in that case, you actually do know the meaning of the whole song.
It's an ironic lament.
And I think that in some cases, what we see with the cancel culture is...
And, you know, we always used to hear from the leftists about nuance.
Oh, you've got to understand nuance.
You've got to be accepting of this nuance.
But they're the ones now...
Ranging from Fawlty Towers episodes about the Germans that they just won't accept to Count Dankula's Nazi pug joke up in Scotland, they try to put him in prison.
I mean, so many areas where cancel culture, it is a thing, and they are reducing the ability of people to be able to absorb some really, really good fictional creations.
And I'd be curious to get your thoughts on this, you guys.
Like Tony said, do you think it's reached its nadir, or do you think it's going to get worse?
And I'll give you another story after this about a writer that I mentioned on my show last night that could have a bearing on this.
Don, go ahead. Well, I mean, I think they're pushing things to the limit already, and I think the only thing they can do, and apparently there's no way to turn back, you see already in the popular culture, and I talked about this before, and I think the first hint of it was the painting.
In John Podesta's office of a cannibal, eating out of the cannibal.
This cannibalism is going to be the next thing they're going to push.
They're already trying to normalize it.
The New York Times had a story about it saying we need to get over our reluctance about cannibalism.
We used to make fun of the most ignorant tribes on the planet that were head shrinkers.
Now apparently the elitists do this.
I think that's coming next.
At this point, after that Grammy the other night, they couldn't go that much farther unless they're going to actually have a human sacrifice on television.
And at this point, the way that audience was cheering, I think that you would still get the cheering.
I don't think there's anything they could do at this point where they wouldn't react to the stimuli, unless maybe they brought somebody out in clothes that you might have worn 50 years ago or something and sang something traditional.
They might blanch at that. They might run in horror or something.
Yeah, I think you have to keep pushing the envelope.
That's the whole point of this, is you have to keep pushing the envelope.
You can't stop. Where it's leading to an end goal, I don't know.
But I know that there's really even more ugliness to come if they keep pushing it.
Go ahead, go ahead, Tom. I was just going to say...
No, no, go ahead. No.
You go, brother.
You've been involved in the conversation longer.
I largely agree with Don.
We have a problem moving forward.
They're going to switch all of this up.
Like I said, I'm not incredibly optimistic about Where this is going to go.
And I hate to sound this way, right?
But I, you know, and I can change tomorrow if somebody presents me with this brilliant idea and I'm like, oh my God, this can help.
And there are ways where we can delay the inevitable, at least for us.
And try to spread it, you know, a little more, you know, and hope for the best.
But largely, this is something we're going to face.
I remember I told Tony about this.
I have it right here, right?
Jerry Mander was the name of the guy who wrote this book, Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television.
And I purchased this just based on the title.
And I hadn't read it, but I started.
And, you know, it's a lot of the things that we talk about now.
He's talking about blue light.
I forget when this was written. But when he came out with these ideas, people were like, this is crazy, dude.
What's the problem? I'm sure somebody was saying that about radio.
This is a slippery slope.
We've got to be careful. This is what's happening now.
It's just at a higher level.
I don't see a way out of it.
We need to prepare ourselves to deal with it and prepare our kids.
I think that's the only way out of it, right?
Prepare our kids and hopefully, you know, some of our kids or our friends, one of them would be the catalyst for worldwide change, right?
And hope for the best, but we just have to Prepare ours and those that we love and the people that are listening.
You guys prepare us.
We prepare you. It's a beautiful exchange to get ready for this.
It's like there's a nuclear bomb that's going off.
It's going to go off.
It's going to go off.
What are we going to do?
Maybe it won't go off.
No, no, no. It's going off.
What are we going to do to survive?
That's really the way I think we need to be looking at this.
This change is coming.
It's already here in large part.
It's like stage four cancer at this point.
The way it's infiltrated society.
And we just need to take it from that perspective and move forward that way in order to help ourselves and maybe eventually help everyone else.
But that's the way we need to look at it, in my opinion.
Yeah, Tone, I was talking about the story out of Wales about how they wanted to ban Tom Jones' Delilah from being sung and asking, you know, as we find more acceptance, where is that dividing line between acceptance and actually shutting down dissent from what is deemed by those who are the elites As unacceptable because it's not accepting enough or it's too violent or whatever.
The speech policing problem, of course, arising both through society and technology and government.
And yeah, I'd love to get your thoughts on it because I was just wondering, as you were saying, has it reached its nadir, its lowest point?
And I think many people in many generations think, oh, it couldn't get any worse and something gets crazy.
But I'm inspired in a way looking at all you guys because I see you guys as the remnant and I can learn so much from you guys.
It really gives me a lot of hope.
I know there are a lot of people out there.
So, you know, positives and negatives are sort of what I was serving up while you were away there.
Well, nothing happens in a vacuum.
For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
And I think about yesterday on the Jack Allen show that we referenced Apocalypse Now.
And, you know, that's based on the book, I think, Conrad Blackwood, The Heart of Darkness.
And, you know, again, Colonel Kurtz in that movie has gone insane.
And he's at the end of the river.
And he just couldn't compute that they were out there doing horrible violence.
And the generals and the planners would say they would reprimand anyone who wrote a profane word on a bomb.
So if you wrote the F word on a bomb that was used to incinerate children, the bomb wasn't bad, but the word was.
And that's the insanity of our society, the mutilation of our young.
And again, look at the CDC. I bring this up again and again, but voting 15 to 0 to make the COVID-19 bioweapon shots part of your child's scheduled vaccines.
With the evidence here, I know the word myocarditis because of you guys.
I know it because of what you pushed in Operation Warp Speed.
So we're living in two different worlds.
You know, you want to protect me from a Tom Jones song, but you want to kill kids?
Knowingly, you're going to let that slip.
You're going to, again, this is 15 to 0, no dissent, lockstep.
So that's where we are, right?
And I think, you know, the sinner cannot hold.
Things fall apart. We're going to see that society starts breaking away and pushing back on this.
The inertia is too strong.
You look at the movements of young people now.
I'm fascinated by younger men.
I didn't have this when I was a younger man, but you look around, you see These men's movements and young men, they're just pushing back on society.
Guys, we're not going to watch pornography.
We're not going to be part of this hookup culture.
We're going to start families and I'm going to go to the gym and I'm going to start a business.
Embracing being your self-action.
We're not going to be the stupid dad on a sitcom.
We're going to be leaders, and they're pushing back on that, and it's growing.
It's like the water hyacinth.
You ever know what a water hyacinth is?
It grows in a pond, and it'll be one, then two, and then all of a sudden, it's doubling and doubling and doubling, and that's what's happening.
But we're just beginning to see that effect.
And right now, it's really disconcerting, because we're looking around, like, does anybody care that this is going on?
I think it is. And I mean, people going back to tradition...
But we can't trust these institutions.
I mean, David was talking about the other day, in a fourth turning, you just have these institutions are dying.
And they're just putting, you know, what was it a few years ago, Gard, they were going to ban the song Baby It's Cold Outside.
Yeah. I mean, they banned it off like that's offensive, but not abortion on demand.
Well, when you talk about the song Delilah, there's a much more recent song that is a much bigger celebration of murder, and that's Goodbye Earl by the former Dixie Chicks, who are now the Chicks.
I mean, that is an absolute celebration of killing the guy.
I mean, it's a catchy song, too.
I said, you know, I love this song.
You know, music.
But God, look what they're saying.
And of course, it's because he was an abuser or whatever.
That's a real celebration.
But I don't think the former Dixie Chicks, the Chicks, I doubt that they'll come into quite as much controversy as poor Tom Jones is, I guess.
Let's look at Megan Thee Stallion or Cardi B. Go look at that.
Cardi B is from the Bronx, man.
She's not far. She's an ex-stripper.
Go pull up a song.
Pull up WAP. Go pull that up.
Read the lyrics.
I'm not going to do it here. Read the lyrics.
And you tell me which is worse.
Any Tom Jones song.
Anyone. Pick them.
Anyone. Compared to that.
And that is mainstream On the radio.
Now, of course they bleep some things out, but come on.
That only makes it worse, right?
Like, why are they bleeping that out?
Let me go listen to the real one on YouTube that has a billion.
With a B, views.
That tells you all you need to know, doesn't it?
A billion views for that.
It's ridiculous.
It's not music.
There's music that's done that I don't think is music, but it's at least tasteful.
This is just next level garbage.
I don't know which would bother me more, guys.
If this were just something that we're spontaneously erupting in society, or if I didn't see these two prongs, at least two prongs.
One is the sort of Tavistock social engineering, cultural Marxist push to do the one-upsmanship.
Going all the way back, you know, back, as Don said, I didn't even think about the 50s, you know, rebellious teen angst stuff.
Into the 80s when a guy from New Hampshire, just a couple of towns away, I knew him, G.G. Allen became infamous.
G.G. Allen got into the punk world and rather than recognizing the meaning of life and that the music was a way to rebel against the staid and stolid music that was being forced down by corporate entities, he attached to the violence, to the anger.
And just lost it.
Just a really sad thing.
You know, so you don't know whether it's all societally driven or Tavistock driven plus government.
But I think to myself, I say, you know, I don't think that when we see society doing it, It is natural.
But the other thing that really bothers me is the other prong, which is trying to get the government to shut down ideas like what we're saying here, like David Knight's show, like corporations coming down like Google.
And I'll bring up MRCTV, as you guys probably know.
My work for MRCTV was put on the Google blacklist.
And so people searching for stories They wouldn't see my stuff or the MRCTV stuff in general pop up the way it should have.
You've got things like Andrew Klavan, the novelist Andrew Klavan.
A lot of these people professionally have suffered because not only this societal Tavistock stuff has popped up and been pushed and pushed and pushed for decades where people think it's virtuous to shut down speech.
Not to just criticize, but to shut it down.
And then through government to actually foster that, to create these institutions that are back doors for politicians to get in.
And Tony, I'll bring this up to you guys.
Billy Ray, Don, you probably haven't heard about this, but a friend of mine, one of my writing mentors, multiple Bram Stoker Award winner named Tom Monteleone, was recently featured in a piece from the Daily Beast because When they nominate the Bram Stoker Award winners, he had noticed that they were starting to virtue signal.
It seemed to hand out awards just for being some minority group or representing something almost in a Literary fiction style, you know, that navel-gazing nonsense.
And he's a, you know, a down-and-dirty, jazz-loving dude who uses terms like Daddy-O and, you know, total Italian kind of style guy.
Wrote a column for a long time called Mafia, the Mother and Father's Italian Association for a magazine called Cemetery Dance.
And he hates political correctness, right?
So he spoke up, and for the nominations for this year for the Bram Stoker Award, and he has won a Lifetime Achievement Bram Stoker Award for horror writing, right?
So he does anthologies and so on, and he said, you know, I noticed there's a lot of PC stuff going on and stuff, so I'd like to nominate a smart white guy or something like that, just to tweak this.
That exploded, and From that time, any of his defenses have just made it worse, it seems.
And they have banned him.
They tried to pull back his Bram Stoker Awards.
They won't allow him to enter the convention for the Bram Stoker Award.
The e-book publisher that was carrying him, evidently it looks like they're not going to carry him now.
I mean, all sorts of stuff.
This guy's profession.
He's 75. And you know what?
The other thing that contributes to it, I think, is These people, we all used to get together at conventions.
We all used to tolerate each other's differences, but online, not going to happen.
They wipe them out.
They don't have to see them, don't have to meet them again.
They can close them down.
It's amazing. And you say to yourself, so what really was going on in your heart that all those times that we hung out in the lobby of the hotel and had Tootsie Rolls together out on the lawn and stuff.
All these different groups hanging out.
Did you really hate them that much?
It's weird. You know?
Not even willing to have a conversation.
Crazy. This is what this creates.
If there's a silver lining in any of this, you get to see what people are really about.
Because they're not going to tell you to your face nine times out of ten.
You know, so they'll sit there and have Tootsie Rolls with you and it's all good.
Do you think, Billy Ray, that if you had repeated human contact, people can grow out of that and they can, rather than getting locked in with all the other people who nod and agree in their politically correct,
hard on their sleeves, woke-ism, that if you're actually getting together with people, On a little park bench, hanging out with people at a bar or something like that, you'll actually maybe over time become more accepting of people.
Absolutely. You know? Absolutely.
It's so disappointing. 100%.
Well, it's about, you know, I make these analogies all the time to the way things used to be back in America 1.0, the ugly part of America 1.0, lots of good parts of it.
Obviously, some people in that time, we really only had one distinctive minority group in the United States, then black people.
So when I was a very little kid, the civil rights movement was happening.
And, you know, it was obviously that impulse was there from society and its institutions and everything to keep this particular group down and give them a second class citizenship.
You didn't have Hispanics.
You didn't have Asians.
Very, very, very few.
You really only had the one group.
But I'm sure that probably would have been the case for them as well at that time.
But now you completely flip it on the air.
And then, of course, you had Martin Luther King.
He dreamed of a day when his children could play together with white children and everything.
And I have a dream speech.
Right.
And the content of their character, all that stuff.
Nobody on the left believes in that today.
They completely flipped it on its ear.
But what's different is that you didn't have black people in charge of all the corporations back then keeping black people down.
You didn't have a bunch of black people that were running things going out and saying how bad blacks were.
And how terrible it was, toxic blackness and all that stuff, and making sure their kids, when they go to school, get taught how bad they are, like they have original sin.
You know, this is the critical race theory thing.
That's the reality it faces now.
And I hate sounding like a white nationalist or something, but the anti-white agenda is so obvious, and it's coming mostly from whites.
That's why my answer all to them is that you do realize you're white, right?
These corporations are run by white people.
You're white yourself, you Karen that's running around saying, do you accept your own children?
Do you feel that way about them too?
So it's insidious.
We've never tried to have an egalitarian.
I'm an egalitarian. There are no egalitarians out there.
We've never tried that approach where everybody's treated the same.
We went right from sitting in the back of the bus to affirmative action.
And it's been worse ever since.
We've never tried. And you know what?
We really are going to judge people by the content of their character.
But now with virtue signaling and everything, that's all out the window.
The last thing that counts in America 2.0 is your character.
Gard talked about giving out awards and everything.
It's all about that. It can't be.
Thomas Jefferson dreamed of a meritocracy.
We're the farthest thing removed from meritocracy at this point.
Unfortunately, what happens is people that aren't white, they come from a minority group that they're trying to push, then people tend to look, you know, to askew at any of them and think, well, you just got there because of affirmative action or they picked you because of what you are, or you may actually be qualified.
You may actually be that good.
But nobody's going to give you credit.
Society will give you credit, even if you're not good.
But the rest of us that are kind of suspicious about all this, we're not going to respect any of it.
So it's just a mess.
But if Martin Luther King was around today, he would be considered a white supremacist.
Probably true. Mind control and manufactured divisions is what we have today.
And the ironic part about all of it, If you have something that's being promoted heavily, it's most likely a form of an operating system for control.
No, you're right.
So, like, Gard is a libertarian.
And, you know, volunteerist and, you know, anarchist or whatever.
Who's funding that?
Almost no one, right?
Because it can't really, freedom can't really be used as a way, a means of control.
So you see these useful idiots and people that are promoting communism, socialism, and even the leadership has no idea, or maybe they do.
I mean, you look at the leadership of BLM and the rest, funded heavily by the world's richest people, and that's And it's over and over and over again we see, like, you know, you look at the, what are the editors of the New York Times?
I mean, she's allowed to get away with saying, like, smelly old white people and all this stuff.
You know, like, I can't stand to be around white people, all this stuff.
And it's coming from, you know, and of course, the New York Slimes is owned by Carlos Slim, a Mexican billionaire who wants to order something.
Remittance payments and all the rest.
But see, it's always driven, and we live in a fake reality, really just manufactured by people with access to so-called capital and monopoly money.
And it all has to do with the systems that can be used to control us.
We have so much in common.
The everyday person, the person just wants to take care of their family and put food on the table and make a living and be left alone.
We're the majority. And it doesn't matter what political spectrum you're on.
If you could spend time with that, but we're not supposed to.
We have Fox News to keep us, you know, and MSNBC to keep us driven apart or, I mean, CNN. I think there's only four people watching it.
And those are the people that are in the actual studio.
So no one's watching.
But all those means of control are for.
And this is the sophistication of the mind.
I have no idea how to even decipher it.
But I know that I'm a victim of mind control.
If I... Maybe a victim's not the word, but I'm...
I'm a veteran of the mind war.
Let's put it that way. I mean, Billy Ray and I have even talked here on this show.
You know, the PSYOPs Center at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, which I'm familiar with, the Psychological Warfare Operations Brigade, put out a video.
Was it back in December, Billy, or sooner, that talked about, you know, what they do.
They control the narrative. They control the outcome.
And that's what PSYOPs are.
So we're living inside a real-time And even, you know, Donald Jeffries is talking about this.
I mean, people are always, World War III already is going to kick off.
We're already in it. I mean, it's the governments of the world against its people.
And I'm starting even to become skeptical of my own foreign policy analysis.
I'm like, is any of this real?
I mean, you have balloons flying across, and we can't shoot it down.
We're like a pitiful giant.
No one knows what to do.
Mm-hmm. And of course they know what to do.
And it's like, where does the collusion with China begin and our own sovereignty?
I don't know. I mean, are we even separate anymore with the amount of insiders that run this country?
So we're just deciphering what is actually decoding things is a full-time job now.
I hope that we're doing okay for you, ladies and gentlemen out there.
This turned into like a nice roundtable discussion on the big issues of the day, which I'm really enjoying.
Gard, you got anything you want to add?
Well, yeah, you know, Tony, you bring up something that I think is, to me, really important.
You know, when you look at ostracism and you think about how in small communities that's reputation, And ostracism are very important.
You go back, as I sometimes mentioned, during broadcasts, you go back to the tribes of Israel in the desert.
They didn't have any government until they and they were warned, don't bring in a king.
And they brought in a king and they were told this is what's going to happen.
And that's what happened.
You know, taking a massive portion of their their best cattle, you know, taking their young men for wars and things like that.
But prior to that, they did it by tribes and ostracism and reputation.
And they had the elders who would sort of oversee things.
And as I've mentioned before, the ancient Irish did that for a thousand years, the Brehon law system.
And I think when you have small areas of people with common interests who can voluntarily gather, ostracism is is pretty, pretty well managed.
Sometimes it can get out of hand and so on, but at least there are places where you can flee.
The larger the area of control, as we often say, as F.A. Hayek, the economist, said, the worst the decisions can be for many, many people.
Bad decisions will harm more people.
And I think with hegemonic ostracism or Any sort of hegemonic way to try to cut down people over large scales.
We get this now through electronic media that is often driven by certain groups.
It's a very subtle, very long-term thing, but it's also driven by these individuals who are oftentimes hypocritical.
I'll give you that example from my writer friend's situation.
There are two points.
Many years ago, he was going to edit an anthology And for the submissions for the anthology, he said on Facebook, he strips the names off of the story submissions, and he just reads the stories, and then he decides, do I like this story or do I not like this story?
He had no agenda except good stories.
And he got slammed.
People said, you should be more inclusive.
Why are you not being more inclusive?
What's wrong with you? Aren't you thinking about the plight of X, Y, or Z group?
He said, no, I'm thinking about the book.
The stories. I'm paraphrasing now.
And then he said, you know, a basketball coach isn't trying to populate his team with X, Y, and Z type of skin color.
He wants guys who can drive the lane and get rebounds and play defense.
You know, this is ridiculous.
They slammed him for that.
And he said, basically what he said is, if every player on a team is a black guy, I don't care.
And they're like, oh, so you're saying black people are the only ones who can play basketball now?
Well, that's racist. It's like, jeez, you just can't win.
And I'll give you this, the hypocrisy of people.
And I think it's much easier in large areas where you can find other ne'er-do-wells who are never happy about anything.
And congregate with those people.
And God forbid, I hope I'm not ever in that situation where I'm accused of doing that.
I hope I can be as open as possible and friendly to people and say, okay, you go your way, I'll go my way.
As Fleetwood Mac would say, again, to go back twice in a show.
But years later, when, and I mentioned this off the air last night, Tony, when you and I were chatting, Harvey Weinstein stuff came up.
And it was all the Me Too thing.
And all these leftist people on Facebook, all these writerly types who aspire to be literary fiction people, in other words, right nonsense, self-navel-gazing, you know, garbage that's pushed by the major publishing houses from New York and, you know, populates 75% of many bookstores.
What you'll see in these people is they're all out there and they're all like, oh, yeah, they're actually posting on the sites.
Women, if you've experienced these bad things, maybe I haven't been open enough to it.
Please post on my page what your experience was and so on and so forth.
And maybe they were heartfelt about it, right?
Maybe they weren't trying to virtue signal that much or they didn't even realize that it was insufferable virtue signaling, right?
It goes beyond a certain level.
You got to stop at a certain point.
It's like Oprah. Her first, like, 10 of her first 12 books on the Oprah list were always about a woman who was victimized and how she overcame it.
It's like, no, what you're doing is perpetuating the victimization culture.
People think they're all victims about something.
Not everybody's a stinking victim, you know?
Let's get over it. And if we were victims, you need to get over it and stop talking about it so much.
The way Morgan Freeman mentioned to Don Lemon, stop talking about it!
Move on, you know?
So what's interesting is They're all posting this stuff about Weinstein.
Don't blame the victim, victim shaming, you know, that sort of stuff.
Literally, a few days later was when Rand Paul's neighbor attacked Rand Paul, right?
Beat him to, you know, possibly almost killing him.
Puncturing his lungs.
Rand loses function of part of his lung.
He's in therapy for months after that, physical therapy, trying to get better.
What do these people post, some of them?
Couldn't it happen to a nicer guy?
Yes. Yep. And it just, you just sit there.
So I got in there. And as I mentioned to you, Tony, last night on the phone, I was going to jump in and just be like, what the hell is wrong with you people?
You know, like, do you even have any clue what you were saying last week and now what you're doing?
But I waited like a day.
And then I went into Facebook and I hardly ever go to Facebook anymore because it's just so difficult.
And, um, I got in there and I scrolled down and I posted a comment.
I was like, hey guys, I just wanted to mention to you, these kinds of comments, they kind of verge perilously close to the very thing that you were decrying last week.
The blaming the victim.
And I didn't get any responses.
Well, yeah, only certain people can be victims.
And certainly the white people, white Christians especially, can't be victims.
But the left, again, the left that I was a part of celebrated nonviolence.
Again, Martin Luther King's entire civil rights movement was based on nonviolent resistance.
When have you heard that term lately?
It's like victimless crimes.
As a libertarian, you know that guard.
It's gone out the window. But I mean, this was celebrated from Thoreau, who never gets credit for starting it.
And then Gandhi.
Well, Gandhi's a white supremacist.
I forgot. They tore a statue down a couple years ago, I remember.
Even though he was a brown person.
Who popularized nonviolent resistance against white colonialism in the British Empire.
He's considered a white supremacist now.
But this is the mad world we live in.
They've gone from nonviolent resistance to Martin Luther King.
The reason I think it succeeded, that's what I think our side at this point to try to...
That's probably the only chance we would have.
Maybe if we could get millions of people to nonviolently resist, to sit in in places.
But you need numbers.
You need a lot of numbers.
But now the left celebrates violence.
Punch a Nazi in the face.
And of course, they're going to say who a Nazi is.
It's not going to be a Nazi.
It's going to be whoever they don't like.
Punch a Nazi in the face.
As you said, just the joke they made, they'll make that all the time.
They'll be very happy with someone they don't like being hit or physically assaulted.
And that's not what the left, you know, what about the peace sign?
Come on, man, make love, not war, all that.
What happened to that? It's all good.
Exactly. Billy Ray flashed it, but not anymore.
Although it came from...
Go ahead. Go ahead. I told you you were making that mix in there.
I am not a crook.
Nixon and most famously now, Roger Stone.
Roger Stone. Oh, yeah. Roger Stone's for peace, man.
It comes from Winston Churchill, by the way, who first flashed it at one of the big warmongers of all time.
And I think, I believe I talked about this in Crimes and Cover-Ups, that he got it from Aleister Crowley.
So it's been, you know, peace, hey, fantastic, but It was V for victory.
Yes, V for victory. According to Aleister Crowley.
Aleister Crowley. What kind of victory?
You know, this is a guy who conducted, apparently conducted human sacrifices.
But he's, hey, you know, Hollywood has worshipped him for a long time.
So if he was alive today, he'd be the star of the Grammys.
The Beast 666, and of course, I think that's Hillary Clinton nowadays, but you know, we'll go down that route later.
Listen, I do want to just inject an idea to the discussion that we were having here, right?
And I think it was Don that said, he's like, you know, it's the attack on whites, but who is pushing from the top level the attack on whites?
White people. It's white people.
It's coming to white people. Why is this happening?
Right? So critical race theory is something that's incredible to me, right?
I've seen that I'm looking at this and I'm like, man, and if you tune in to conservative media, you think it's widespread that, oh my God, everybody's being taught this.
Maybe that's the case now, but I'll explain why that is.
Because it wasn't taught before, right?
I didn't know what the hell critical race theory was.
My kids don't know what critical race theory is.
And we don't know it by name and we don't know it by content because it wasn't taught.
It just wasn't a thing.
Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson got a hold of something that happened.
I'm sure it was taught somewhere and they got a hold of that.
And blew it up like a PCR test.
Boom! Right?
And everybody that was watching was like, oh my God, this is a problem.
Critical race theory is a problem.
So what's the reaction from the left?
From CNN and any of these outlets that push this stuff.
They start bringing on the people that are actually doing the critical race theory, that are actually the proponents of it, that write it up and that push it and that teach it at universities.
They give them a spotlight that they didn't have before in reaction to what was going on with the right.
And then it spreads awareness.
People get hip to it and they're like, oh, this is what we need to be teaching.
It's the divide.
The conservative right is saying this is widespread, and it's not at the time.
But everybody seems to think it's widespread.
And as a reaction, the far left...
They bring on their talking heads that push this at universities, very smart PhDs that sit there and, well, you know, this, that, and the other.
I don't agree with anything that they say, but they have some credibility in the mainstream, and that's how it spreads.
That's how we got to where we are now, where we're arguing about critical race theory, when in reality it wasn't a thing.
It just wasn't. I mean, it existed, but was it far spread?
It's like white supremacy. It exists.
It's a thing. But I don't know a white supremacist.
Tony says the same thing.
I've never met a white supremacist in my life.
Well, the interesting thing about white supremacy is that the way the media focuses, the white supremacists are people who have the least privilege.
Like, for instance, you're never going to see them call Bill Gates a white supremacist, not in a million years, or Warren Buffett, or Mark Zuckerberg, or Jeff Bezos.
You ever heard them called white?
I mean, if there is such a thing as white supremacy, you have like $100 billion, you're reigning supreme, and you're white.
But it's for average people, just like those people are never guilty of using too much energy.
Or leaving too big of a carbon footprint.
It's you and me. It's meant to divide, Don.
This is what this is all about.
All of it. It's meant to divide.
And we, especially here, and I'm guilty of it too, we run right after these things here in the alternative media.
And we should know better, knowing where it comes from.
Instead of attaching ourselves to these ideas and assuming that what they're telling us is true.
Because it wasn't. It might be now, but it's a direct result of what they said, what they put forth, the colonization of the mind that came from the television, that came from what Tucker Carlson was saying because we respect him, that came from what Don Lemon was saying because we respect him because he's an anchor on television, right? So that is where we get, that's how we got here because it wasn't that way before they blew this up.
What does it do? It causes a division.
That's all it is. I just want people to recognize and reflect on that.
It's really that simple.
Talk to your people in New York.
Well, maybe now it's too late. Maybe now they're like, yeah, critical race theory is a thing.
Maybe now it's far spread.
But I don't remember that.
And none of my friends remember that.
We don't know what that is.
Well, I think history has shown that if you want to have a society that's going to create a great evil, you have to first get that society to identify as a victim.
That's History 101.
The victims create the evils of history, or the so-called victims.
And I think that the 1619 Project and cultural race theory, all that stuff, or critical race theory, is all just an extension of the Frankfurt School.
This has been going on since the 1930s and the communists and Marxist revolutionaries who understood that the capture of the Russian people was only a totalitarian, top-down system that people's hearts and minds had not accepted communism.
And so they realized they had to start from the bottom up, and that's where you get the intellectuals that were kicked out of the Third Reich and sent to the United States and set up in the university systems, and that's where you get the 1960s.
And we're just dealing with the endgame of that.
I mean, this is an operation in so many ways to take down a great society and a culture.
And again, that's why I say I'm not a conservative because there's nothing to...
I mean, what am I going to conserve of this?
Of this current system that we're in and current culture.
I mean, right now we have a lot of restoring to do.
There's almost no conserving to do.
Right. Yeah.
You know, it makes me think a little bit about, you know, the...
The pushes that Frankfurt School made.
A couple of years ago, I got to do a documentary series for MRCTV about Marxism.
And I've been using a lot of the original notes that I wrote for that and the text I wrote for that to start or finish, I should say.
I'm coming close to finishing a book on Marxism collectivism.
And how it's always the David versus Goliath motif where, you know, the people think they're fighting the big bad guy.
By bringing down the capitalists, bringing down the property owners, bringing down this, bringing down that.
Oftentimes they don't even know that the messages that they're spouting were created by massive so-called capitalists that are tied to humongous corporations and have very, very deep roots with some of the worst corporations.
Legacies of corporatism and colonialism that go back to the British Empire and the East India Tea Company.
And even further than that, if you look at the bloodlines and Illuminati stuff and things like that.
And so they just took Tony out and he's been eliminated.
It's going to be a mystery story.
The next one is going to go.
There were fewer.
He's back. He didn't like that.
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, Bill Gates was there pressing the button.
I think I'll get rid of this button.
I'm going to do a really good job of getting rid of Tony with this button.
Yeah, you know, I think here in this grid, one of these numbers is going to have to be brought down to zero just from basic algebra.
I'm probably depopulating myself.
I've been doing – I did deadlifts yesterday, and I'm just talking about doing a competition again sometime in April.
And then Texas is just a deadlift and bench press deal.
And I'm just sitting for like an hour or more, my sciatic nerve, because I'm old now.
I jumped out of airplanes and all that good stuff.
So I've got the skeletal structure of a little older man, I think, than 43.
So I'm just having to reassess my leg.
Crazy stuff. But yeah, you know...
And I have an aside to ask you guys about this, but yeah, so they don't realize this.
It's always the David versus Goliath.
You go back to Rousseau, he was jealous of the guys who went to the salons like Voltaire, and he wanted to be part of that crowd.
And so when he wrote his Discourse on Inequality, which was actually for a competition, and he sent it off, it was all this, I'm a victim, I'm People like me are victims of the people who own the property and stuff.
And there was a tinge of that.
As I mentioned, Marx was able to take advantage of the resentment people felt about the old feudal system and the people who were so closely associated with With the bloodlines and the parliament that they got favors showered on them, that they got people's traditional community-oriented land taken away from them during the enclosure movement and all these things where all of a sudden their farms are taken and these new property owners are coming in, the liege lords are coming in, and they're populating them with sheep.
These sorts of things, you can understand resentment.
As I mentioned, bourgeoisie, that comes from Berger, the Germans.
That's the Berger Meister, Meisterberger.
It was the royally appointed local governor or mayor of a certain region.
And they had very close ties to the guilds, which then oftentimes became the corporations.
And they got rent-seeking.
They excluded competition, AT&T of an older sort.
And so we see this pattern all the time.
But the problem with this is that the very people who want power lever that terminology and that sort of resentment of the big guy to get the populace, the people who were the peace and love people.
They were led astray by people like Bill Clinton, who, as you know, when he got into office, jets flew over during during the day that he was being sworn in.
Somebody ducked and they said, oh, don't worry, they're ours now.
These supposed anti-war people.
Right.
So we know there's always this faction that seems to be steering these things.
And I don't know how to resolve it, you guys, but I am curious to think about how it seems like just continually trying to remind people like, hey, be on guard.
Don't buy into this and don't think that you're going to find your answers in the government to make everybody equal.
That seems to me like one of the few answers I can come up with.
Well, you mentioned the term bourgeois, and again, when I was a kid, I heard that term petty bourgeois all the time.
But it was not meant, again, just as when they're talking about white privilege, white supremacy, they don't mean the Bill Gateses of the world.
They mean the middle class.
And when they're talking about petty bourgeois, you can see the arguments in All in Family.
I mean, they were arguing with their parents.
They were arguing with middle class, lower middle class people.
Those were the bourgeois that they hated.
It wasn't the elite that has all the wealth.
Just as, again, when they're talking about white supremacists, they're talking about people who are struggling from paycheck to paycheck and clearly have no privilege at all.
They're not talking about the people that have privilege.
And it's basically an extension of that Marxism argument.
Marxism was all things about destroying the middle class.
And that's why in America they had quite a job to do because the one good thing in terms of America, the great thing that came out of World War II was that post-war boom, unfortunately built largely on defense contractors and the intelligence agencies, the growth of the government, but it did build a middle class, a suburbia that the world had never seen before.
And so this was by the time the 60s rolled around and the hippies, this is what they wanted to destroy.
They'd want to destroy, you know, some celebrity that owned private islands.
They didn't talk about that.
They resented what the middle class had.
And that's why today the battle is still.
And, you know, Tony and I talked about this before.
They're squeezing out what's left of the middle class.
So you had the bottom 50 percent that when I wrote Survival of the Richest, the bottom of the 50 percent had less than 1 percent of the collective wealth together.
That's half the country.
Now, since that time, how many millions of migrants, Of illegal aliens at the absolute bottom that are poorer than anybody here have entered the country.
So they've extended that 50%.
I don't know what it is now.
And, of course, we know about the 20% at the top that manage the mess for the absolute people at the top, they're doing well.
So that leaves about 30% or whatever that's in there that was the middle class, and they're being squeezed out.
That's what they mean by the bourgeois.
When they turn down their noses, they think that we're a bunch of...
Like Henry Kissinger said, useless eaters, they don't like us, and they, I don't know, they want us gone, apparently, and they're getting their wish with the culling the herd here.
And you know what really gets me, you guys, is the excuse for aggression that this sort of mindset instills in people.
And to me, from my anarchist position, you know, I think about that TV series, The Prisoner, and I brought this up to David once when he had me on as a guest.
There's a particular scene in The Prisoner where number two, who in that particular episode was being played by Leo McCurne, who then went on to do Rumpel of the Bailey and so on and so forth.
Number two is speaking to Patrick McGowan's number six, The Prisoner.
And he utters this term called pop.
And in fact, that actually is a reference to the end of one episode.
They put up this graphic of the world exploding Just as the music ends, and they only played it once, it was from an episode called The Chimes of Big Ben, and it says POP, and it's this explosion.
And POP stands for Protect Other People.
And I believe it's at the heart of the mistake many people make when they buy into Marxism, when they buy into collectivism, and they buy these narratives that we have to protect other people from the exploiter.
We have to protect other people from X, Y, or Z. And from an anarchist standpoint, it actually goes to even John Locke's argument about government.
He claimed in the Second Treatise that people voluntarily form a government coming out of what they called the state of nature.
And the state of nature was a position where he said it could be everybody preying on everybody.
And they called that actually leading to a state of war against people, right?
A constant state of war. So we said in order to avoid that, people voluntarily form a government to create a police force to protect people and a justice force.
But of course, as I mentioned, inherent in that is the tautology, the inherent illogic, because the government itself is now the predator.
It is telling you, you will pay not only for your own protection, but to protect other people.
And it's that heart of the assumption that government will tell you, you must protect other people, you must provide people with this, that I think opens the Pandora's box.
And even in John Locke's second treatise, he said, no man should be deprived of the fruits of his labor without his consent.
And then he said, literally in the next sentence, and by his consent, I mean the consent of the majority.
So we have a major problem here philosophically where people are sold a bill of goods even within the American context.
And at least if we can get people to recognize that and start to see that, yes, They tried to write down that the government can't do everything to supposedly protect other people.
They tried to write rules on the constitutional level and in the Declaration of Independence.
At least if we could get them to understand that, they could see how dark that tunnel is because it leads to Marxism.
It leads to all of this thing, the ostracism of people who are just offering up fairness.
But no, they're not protecting other people enough the way that The cultural Marxists want them to.
Designed to fail. Yeah.
Designed to have a perpetual outrage machine that is just what they call the acid of modernity being poured onto our culture.
You can see it. We're down to the base now.
There's not much left of it.
I'm thinking what happens after this fourth turning.
Talking yesterday, speaking with Jack Allen, I said America, I don't believe, is going away.
But the American empire is.
And what we are up against and what we need to pray about and think about and try to look at ways that we can thrive through is that that may not be a peaceful breakup.
When I was 11 years old, the Soviet Union fell apart.
And it was just gone in one day.
You know, Gorbachev came out on Christmas in 91 and just said bye.
You know, it was the gave up the ghost and it broke into 16 people.
Mostly, mostly peaceful.
And I don't know that the same thing will happen to the United States of America as the empire with 700 bases in 132 countries.
That's what concerns me.
Because we, you know, we have these elite and those who have based their entire livelihood off the petrodollar and the dominance of that and as the world's reserve currency that they need a war to bail it out.
They need a war to save it. So I'm concerned with all this.
I mean, we have the, in the periphery of the culture degrading, you have all these tensions that we manufacture.
You know, we don't have to be at war in Ukraine.
I think we're good to go.
Um, there is no, there's no peace delegates.
That's the telltale. Uh, there's nobody over.
There's no summits. There's no overtures for anything.
And then you have the balloon gate or whatever it is.
It just makes, I was so like a pitiful giant.
And you'll wonder how, how much of this is manufactured.
Matter of fact, I had, As we're closing out, I brought this story up.
Let me see if I can get your guys' take on it.
It was about NORAD, and this is just a little blurb on Zero Hedge.
NORAD pleads incompetence over failure to spot Trump-era Chinese spy bullets.
Oh, man.
As the Biden administration came under fire last week for allowing a Chinese spy balloon to cross the entire United States before shooting it down off the coast of South Carolina, an anonymous U.S. Defense Department official said over the weekend that spy balloons transisted over U.S. territory during the Trump administration. an anonymous U.S. Defense Department official said over the weekend Trump and his former administration officials collectively called BS on the report saying it never happened.
Right.
Okay.
Lots of credibility there.
Well, I just find the whole balloon story ridiculous because how slowly does a balloon travel?
It's like worse than the OJ slow speed chase of the Bronco.
It's very similar to that.
I mean, this is incredible. I mean...
Maybe I've never heard of spy balloons, but it seems to me like there'd be more sophisticated methods than sending a slow balloon, especially if this isn't a game.
And who knows? Again, they're telling us it was a spy balloon.
I don't believe anything they say, so who knows?
But I just find it hard to believe NORAD, the same NORAD that, you know, if you don't believe it was an inside job on 9-11...
You have to ask why they stood down and did nothing while these planes were flying around, headed for the heart of our defense establishment, and did absolutely nothing, except probably shoot a plane down over Pennsylvania and lie about it.
But, you know, what do they do for the balloon?
I mean, it's moving that slowly.
I mean, couldn't they have caught it when it was over water at one point?
I mean, I don't...
And then they sat and looked at it for a couple days, and Millie says, we can't shoot it down.
It's like... Again, it's kind of like the Grammy Awards.
They don't look quite as freakish, most of them, as you would see at the Grammys, but it's the same process.
Are there any adults in charge?
We saw that when the cities were burning in 2020.
There doesn't seem to be anybody in charge, unless they want to just come out with another decree against the people and say, put your masks on or whatever.
But it's very... Everybody has a right to ask, what are we paying trillions of dollars for the largest defense system the world has ever seen when they apparently can't protect us from a balloon?
I totally agree with you about this balloon.
It makes zero sense to me.
And the whole thing about how it moves so slowly and it's just there.
This is nonsense.
Everything about it is nonsense.
I don't believe it. I don't think any rational person believes this story.
Like, what is it?
And let me just circle back to the conversation we were having before the balloon conversation.
just to drive a point home.
America has always, since the beginning, survived on war and called it other names, you know, Manifest Destiny.
Like, come on, right?
What was that?
Oh, we have to, God said that we have to go from one coast to the next and eliminate tons of people as a result.
You know, the Monroe Doctrine is another one, right?
Even though I can kind of understand that to a certain degree, but it led to the domination of Central and South America by the United States.
And we're seeing it now.
We see it in Venezuela. We see it in Colombia.
We see it in all these countries, what's going on.
And in large part, the United States government, not the people, not us, not the people, the government of the United States.
What is it? War is a racket.
That's my boy. Take it over, Tom.
What's that, buddy? Huey Long's best friend, Smedley Butler.
I told that story. Tony knows it.
If you want to know how great Huey Long was, when Huey Long wrote My First Days in the White House, published posthumously, he was already assuming he was going to be president.
He named his fictitious cabinet.
Secretary of War, Smedley Butler.
So you know there would have been no war in the Huey Long administration.
And Smedley Butler said when Huey Long was assassinated, first he said, when he heard that, he said that was the greatest honor of his life.
And when Huey Long was killed, he knew what was happening, and Smedley Butler disappeared from public life.
Huey Long's great-granddaughter didn't even know that.
And I said, you know, you didn't even know.
Nobody does. But, I mean, Smedley Butler, one of the all-time great figures in American history.
Yeah, much like Carey Mullis, who died right before COVID-1984.
Smedley Butler died in 1941.
I believe it was the summer.
Was it 1941?
Like the summer? Right around Operation Barbera.
It would have been interesting to see what he would have had to say about the Good War, huh?
Oh, yeah. That was a good war.
If you read War is a Racket, it's a good little pamphlet.
And I didn't mean to cut you off, Billy.
I was backing you up.
I was just saying this is what...
And then Ms. Medley Butler talked a lot about that, about how he was running operations for the United Fruit Company and stuff when he was a Marine in South America.
We know all about that. And you can...
There's good points to the Monroe Doctrines, but we violate other people's Monroe Doctrine.
I mean, the Monroe Doctrine was don't colonize our hemisphere.
We leave you alone, leave us alone.
And now we go over and we, you know, like John Quincy Adams said, America wasn't designed to go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.
And we just, that's all we do now.
That's our foreign policy, and it gets us into a lot of trouble.
And the founders knew this.
It's one of the reasons they stopped reading George Washington's farewell address in the 30s, because it was time for war.
Well, in history, I pretty much castigated La Raza, who I don't like as a group, but I learned a lot more about that when I was writing Crimes and Cover-Ups.
I learned about, again, that, you know, Polk, I mean, Lincoln was the one that set all the dangerous precedents, but President Polk was the first president to really overstep his boundaries.
And he decided to use that manifest destiny to go south and take over parts that have been traditionally Mexico.
And I talked about the things that you saw happen there was what we would see more in the Civil War and every war since.
Killing of civilians, raping, all the stuff that, you know, American troops are known for happened then.
And so groups like Uraza, which I find repugnant in many ways, they have a point.
Because we did steal land from there.
And that's the problem is when you do these things in the history, eventually it catches up to you and people know what you're doing.
But yeah, Americans are...
And that's unfortunate because the founders...
I know if Jefferson had been around, he would have been appalled.
Certainly Patrick Henry and George Mason, all the great founders would have said, you know, what are you doing?
Why are you doing that?
But that's, you know, we haven't stopped ever since.
Well, we've got about nine minutes right at to take the show to a close.
And again, gentlemen, thanks so much for joining me today.
It's a little bit late notice, but I love filling in.
I'll never say no.
If I have a studio and a microphone, I'm never going to say no to filling in for David.
I think it's good to, as a fellow broadcaster, nothing like David, but as a fellow broadcaster, it's good to keep the feed live.
If you can get away with not running a rebroadcast and, of course, the magnificent Garg Goldsmiths filled It's been for me on my radio show before, which I appreciate that.
Trying to keep the feed live.
Because this show is driven and supported by the audience.
And new content is a much needed thing.
And so, again, I ask the audience if you can.
If you're able to go to thedavidknightshow.com and buy some products or donate to David, it really helps.
And it helps keep the show on the air.
Because this show is unlike anything else.
That's out there. And believe me, I'm a connoisseur of media.
I've been around for a while.
There's nothing like this show.
The consistency, the deep dive research, the honesty, and I know the Knight family.
These are wonderful. These are real wonderful people.
So if you can, donate.
And of course, we sponsor the show, Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, and you can go to davidknight.gold.
We're building Wolfpack, which has really turned into something that I'm proud of it.
But in a way, it's humbling because we're getting more and more people are joining.
The more people that join, the better prices I can get everyone.
I ended up hiring two full-time people to be here at the shop to make sure that orders go out on time and customer service is handled.
So we're growing the network.
And it's not like if you join Wolfpack, it's not like you give me money and then you just get some access to some special information.
We send you an invoice.
We show you your medals. It's just the more people that join, the better deals I can get.
I talked to the back office staff that have access to my website, and they're going to be able to put in a chat system through Telegram.
So I'm working on that. It should be within the next two to three weeks.
We'll have a live chat system there for members only, so you guys can share data and share.
If you want to trade amongst yourselves, we're going to start a community.
Really my answer to the central bank digital currency, which we didn't mention a lot today.
We kind of went anti-headlines a little bit back in the third hour.
But it's good discussions because really what matters right now is ideas.
And so we're getting in a place to where combating the central bank digital currencies and the New World Order or the Great Reset or whatever.
We're battling that with counter revolutions of ideas and decentralization.
And Wolfpack is certainly a part of that.
So I wanted to do one last plug before we get out of here.
But let's do a roundtable.
We'll start.
The magnificent and great Billy Ray Valentine, your show The Infinite Fringe, has been around a good long while.
And a lot of people don't know how big Billy's podcast actually is.
He doesn't talk about it a lot.
But it's been around a while.
He's got lots of listeners.
Then you can find him anywhere, podcaster, surf, Pretty much, right? We can find The Fringe pretty much anywhere.
Really, you can only find it on...
Well, you can find it in a lot of places, but you won't find it on Google Play or Spotify.
I've never gone there.
It's... For the majors, it's Apple Podcasts and on Podbeam.
And then anybody that's mirroring those feeds, any of these like rogue podcatchers, you can find it there.
But ultimately, it's on Apple Podcasts and on Podbeam.
That's it. You can't find it on Google Play or anything else.
But thank you for letting me plug.
It's theinfinitefringe.podbeam.com or theinfinitefringe on Apple Podcasts.
And of course, America Unplugged.
Which we do with these fine gentlemen, all three of them, even Directed Evolution, who comes on from time to time, which I love.
What's up, guys? Yeah, so that's every Saturday at 12 p.m.
Eastern, so come check it out. Don, you want to...
Absolutely. Don, talk about DonaldJeffries.media, your show, your work, your substack, and...
Great. Yeah, thank you. Well, donaldjebries.media is the website.
You can find out all about me there.
My sub stack, which is the only aspect, and I have a big shadow ban on Facebook and Twitter both that I battle.
Elon Musk somehow hasn't freed me from it yet on Twitter, so I'm still waiting for that emancipation there, but it hasn't happened.
But still, you can follow me there at Don Jeffries, and maybe they'll let you.
Maybe you'll see some tweets. But donaldjeffries.substack.com.
My Substack, which is called iProtest, just like my Friday show, which livestreams 5 to 7 p.m.
on rockfin.com and all the usual suspects.
Places. But yeah, I'm promoting Substack because that's the only place that right now is allowing free speech, for me at least, and where my presence is growing.
And my books are coming out.
I'm going to have three books this year, Masking the Truth, about the COVID narrative coming out very soon, whenever I put it out.
Skyhorse basically wants hidden history theory, although I'm in a bit of a dispute about...
Money with them, surprisingly enough.
So hopefully we'll get that worked out.
And then I have a Beatles book coming out, a light and fluffy thing that I wrote with Bob Wilson that'll be coming out soon.
So I should have three books out in some order this year.
But Donald Jeffries.media is the place to go for everything you want to know.
I want to start lining up the interviews as soon as possible, Don.
We've got to get you over on my podcast.
I know everybody else is going to have you on this.
I was reading Don Jeffries' books long before I ever talked to Don Jeffries.
A lot of his information is in my head, and I'm so thankful for that.
Gar Goldsmith, tell people where they can find your magnificent program.
Thanks. Thanks, Tony.
And thanks to all you guys for being here.
Yeah, Tony, same thing with me reading Don's books, too.
And it's a real pleasure, Don.
Really, really great.
And yeah, so I think maybe the best thing, if people want to check out my new show that started a couple weeks ago over on Rockfin, that's every night at 6 o'clock.
Just look up Gardner Goldsmith or Liberty Conspiracy.
It's Liberty Conspiracy Live.
Usually we run to about 7.30 and cover news stories.
And tonight looks like we're going to have our guest will be Eric Peters of Eric Peters Autos, EP Autos.
That'll be cool.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
The problems of professional licensing and how that weaves over, of course, as we were discussing, into licensing just to be able to get on the internet because they're working towards that.
And if they can push for one, they'll keep pushing.
So yeah, the Rockfin show, every night, Monday through Friday.
And then my substack, Gardner Goldsmith substack.
And then mrctv.org if people want to find out my stuff.
I got my bio over there.
And they've got YouTube videos.
And then we've got Liberty Conspiracy videos on BitChute, on Rumble, and on Odyssey, and on my sub stack.
And we're hoping to go live on all of those, plus YouTube.
And then there's my fiction.
So people can look up the Amazon, Gardner Goldsmith, just put my name in, and you'll see some of my work.
And that'll be it.
And I just wanted to mention, reflecting on seeing all you guys here, I'm really glad that you brought up the nightly presence of David Knight and the man who was sick today, couldn't be here.
And prayers going out for quick recovery.
Not anything super serious right now.
Looks like just sick.
And so I just want to say, you know, this most fortuitous meeting to be able to contact David for an MRC TV project I was doing and then meeting him at Gerald Salente's early spring event a couple of years ago where David was speaking up in Kingston, New York, and meeting Karen and Travis and getting to know all you guys.
It is the remnant and it's a wonderful thing.
David, prayers to you.
God love you, sir.
And all the Knight family and all you guys.
You're fantastic people.
And all the people in the chat, including Knights of the Storm.
Absolutely. Knights of the Storm. We didn't plug that enough at all today.
So go and check out Knights of the Storm.
And we'll see. We'll see if David needs another day off.
If he does, Gard and I, we'll get the program going.
We'll figure something out in the interim.
And we just appreciate everybody who joined today.
You can find me at arterburn.news or wisewolfgoldandsilver.com.
It's been a great privilege filling in for the great David Knight.
And always appreciate everybody tuning in.
We will play the outro now.
See if I can get this done. There it is.
I did that right.
Awesome. We appreciate it.
Take care of each other, everybody.
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