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	Making sense common again.
	It's your host, David Knight.
	Welcome on this Wednesday, May 30th, 2018.
	We've got a couple of interesting guests today.
	I think you're going to find it very interesting.
	We have a survivor of Project MKUltra.
	That was the CIA's project that was done secretly, illegally.
	Help to start the war on drugs for Richard Nixon, creating a panic in the public with the use of LSD.
	That was something that the CIA created as part of their mind control program.
	We're going to tell you how that hasn't stopped yet, but we're also going to go back in time.
	I'm going to talk a little bit about MKUltra and where we are with Obama's brain initiative today, as well as the DARPA programs and the CIA programs that continue.
	Folks, it is a complete spectrum.
	When you go back and you look at what we were just talking about last couple weeks with the appointment of Gina Haspel, things don't change.
	History repeats itself.
	Sometimes you say it just rhymes.
	But in the case of CIA, it actually is an actual repeat.
	Actual repeat.
	The whole stated purpose of all of this, that they used to justify these illegal activities, which, by the way, the person in charge destroyed all the records, just like Gina Haspel did, of the enhanced interrogation, the torture operations that were recorded on videotape.
	All the documents were deleted by Richard Helms.
	They did find a stash of documents later that gave us a little bit of insight into it, but for the most part they've been destroyed.
	What has surfaced?
	is incredibly troubling.
	And when we look at that parallel, the other parallel that stands out, I think, in looking at MKUltra, is the idea that they justified all this on the basis of interrogation.
	Yes, they were going to give drugs and psychological treatment and hypnotherapy, all these different things they were going to do to people.
	They justified it on the basis of interrogation.
	But they were also very interested in controlling people's minds.
	They continued this on with the Monarch program to allow them to push people to do actions that they would not normally do.
	We believe that this is behind a lot of the assassinations and mass shooting events.
	We're going to get into all of that stuff today.
	We're also going to talk to Leo Zagami out of Italy.
	He's going to give us his insight into what is happening there.
	It is not something that is just a local political story in Italy, of course.
	It is part of a vast spectrum of a fight against the globalist agenda.
	The EU is a big part of that.
	It is the big construct.
	It was what the Bilderberg Group The Nazis.
	There's kind of a parallel there, isn't there?
	You know, we had the Operation Paperclip where we brought the Nazi scientists over to the United States so they could work with the CIA to develop these weapons and to continue conducting human experimentation without the subjects knowing what was being done to them or without their authorization.
	That was prohibited by the Nuremberg Code.
	We executed people for doing that.
	But then we had our people in the CIA.
	So we had honest people in the government.
	They were executing people who had done the things that the Nazis did and the Japanese prison camp operators did.
	But then we had the CIA.
	And the CIA was busy with their own little government operation, bringing those people to the United States so they could continue their work and expand their work.
	So when we look at the entire spectrum of what is going on, when we look at what is happening with Brexit, we've got some comments from Nigel Farage we're going to have in the program about how perhaps they have gone too far with Italy, but it was necessary.
	I think that the Brexit vote that happened in the UK, we all saw it.
	We saw it as a victory for our side, a victory against the globalists, and they saw it that way too.
	That's why it was so important for the spooks in London to work with the spooks at Langley to try to take down the Trump administration.
	And now they've just said we're going to throw out the election of Italy.
	You've got George Soros pushing for a second Brexit referendum.
	Well, they don't get the results that they like.
	They just throw it out.
	They try another election.
	Or they try to throw out the individual like President Trump that is pushing against them.
	The EU, the globalists, don't like Trump, in case you haven't figured that out.
	And that's what's behind all this stuff.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	I'm David Knight.
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	Live from the InfoWars.com studios in Austin, Texas, it's your host, David Knight.
	Welcome on this Wednesday, May 30th, 2018.
	I'm your host, David Knight.
	We're going to be talking to Leo Zagami.
	He was thrown off of Italian radio after only 60 seconds.
	We're going to let him talk for probably a half hour, maybe.
	We'll let Leo go on about what is happening in Italy.
	Because what they have done is, yet again, they have thrown out a democratic election.
	The bankers, the IMF, and they have put in their own person.
	When they don't get the results they like, just like Brexit, Or just like with President Trump, they have their different tactics in different countries.
	And of course, we're looking at what they did with President Trump or with Brexit.
	With Brexit, they're slow-walking it.
	As we pointed out yesterday, Nigel Farage and others looked at the one budget item that they had budgeted one million pounds for European elections.
	You know, they elect members to the European Parliament out of each of the EU countries.
	And they looked at that and they said, but wait a minute, this next election is coming up after Theresa May has told us we're going to be out of the European Union.
	Why are they budgeting money for us to elect members of the European Parliament when we're supposed to be out of the European Parliament by then?
	Maybe they're not planning on doing that, you think?
	Nigel Farage has called her Theresa Maybe.
	And I think it's not even a question anymore.
	I think that she is going to shut that down.
	Look, she is on the globalist side.
	She lied to the public and got away with it.
	We had Nikki Haley joining with her, lying about the poisoning of the double agent Skripal and his daughter.
	We know that wasn't nerve gas.
	If it was nerve gas, they would have died.
	When they sent that to the Swiss lab, they found evidence of BZ, which is a Class II nerve agent, Novichok, is definitely a Class I. It only has a use of killing people.
	It is eight times more potent than our own nerve gas, our own VX nerve gas.
	So, if that had been used, They wouldn't be concerned about where it had happened or if that was the case.
	You wouldn't have had the first responders who worked on them for a half hour without any protection.
	They just ran another story after the two people who were very sick because they were poisoned by BZ gas.
	Or BZ, it's not a gas, but by BZ, a chemical.
	It also has industrial uses, and when they found that at the Swiss lab, the Swiss lab said, oh yes, and we also did find traces of Novichok in an undegraded format.
	Very surprising, since it was tested several weeks, maybe a couple of months, after the alleged poisoning.
	It would have degraded.
	They said it was in a virgin state, undegraded.
	Maybe somebody in the UK government put that in just before they sent the lab the sample.
	Nevertheless, the symptoms that they had were consistent with BZ exposure.
	People mistaking it for an opioid overdose.
	And it was a very serious case.
	They almost died.
	Nevertheless, they would have died instantly, and so would the first responders have died.
	And there wouldn't have been any question as to whether or not they were poisoned at the house, or in the car, or on the bench.
	You had absurd reports that maybe this happened in the car and they were exposed in the car and maybe there might have been people all over the town that were exposed to this as they were driving around with the windows down.
	Give me a break!
	I can't believe that the people of the UK would fall for that.
	I can't believe the people of the United States would fall for that.
	These are the lies of Nikki Haley and Theresa May, the globalists who will tell you anything, who will do anything, as we've seen with Tommy Robinson.
	We'll talk about that, give you an update on that.
	But I want to play a clip for you.
	from Nigel Farage about what is happening with the Italian elections, because Leo Zegami is going to be joining us later in the program in the next hour.
	We'll find out what they didn't want him to say on Radio 24 in Italy, but this is Nigel Farage about their efforts to overturn the Italian election.
	Well, it must be very good news for the European Commission that the Brexit hole is nowhere near as bad as you thought it was going to be.
	The 40 billion that Mrs May has agreed to pay over the course of the next few years must help, and of course as we speak, she's desperately scrambling to get us back into a whole series of EU programmes in your next budgetary period, and no doubt we'll pay more for that.
	And perhaps what's even better news, Commissioner, is that the Prime Minister now wants a two-year extension of the transition phase.
	So I can only assume that if that effectively means full membership for a further two years, that £40 billion would now become £60 billion.
	And I would like your confirmation that extended transition will mean a bigger bill.
	But perhaps the reality, of course, is that Brexit is not the biggest problem that the European Union now faces.
	Italy, of course, has been mentioned, and they are net contributors to this budget.
	They pay in about 4 billion euros every single year.
	And there are signs that in Italy voters are tiring of paying that money.
	They question what the euro has done to their economy.
	They feel they're a victim of the European Union's immigration policies and as a result of all this they voted in a new government only to find that bullying, hectoring from the European Commission has been listened to by the Italian president and in the last 48 hours their democracy has been traduced.
	In the past you managed to bully the Danes, you bullied the Irish, you bullied the Greeks into submission.
	I suspect with Italy today you've now bitten off more than you can chew.
	Bring on more elections and bigger Eurosceptic victories.
	Yes, and at this point, they're starting to get cold feet.
	They're starting to realize that they did, in fact, bite off more than they can chew.
	So we're going to get an update from Leo Zegami.
	There's talk that they're maybe not going to have another election, that they're going to try to pull this back, because if they have an election, and this election that happened in March, you had two parties, one of them socialist, the other one was conservative in their economic outlook, but both of them were anti-EU.
	And the two of them have worked together, created a coalition, and then that got overturned by the IMF and the bankers.
	Yeah, that's what's happening there.
	So, if they have another election...
	The two of them are going to make this, they're going to join together, even though they are very far apart on many issues, socialist and conservative, they will join together on the anti-EU issues.
	And it will be a referendum on the EU, and it will be a referendum on the Euro as well.
	And that's a fight that I think the European Union is going to lose.
	A fight that I think they're afraid of.
	And I think a fight that Nigel Farage was correct in pointing out they bit off more than they could chew.
	You know, we go back to 2016.
	It was a year of massive victories for national sovereignty.
	And what does national sovereignty mean?
	Is it a bad thing to have national sovereignty?
	The left is always telling us, oh, that's what gave us World War II.
	Well, I disagree with that.
	National sovereignty simply means that you have government closer to you than if it was a world government or a European government.
	And people have lived under this European Union where they told the British fishermen that they would not be allowed to fish in seas that they had fished in for millennia.
	I don't think we're going to do that.
	I don't think we're going to have our economy and our government taken away from us that we will be governed from a distance.
	And that is essentially what they were trying to do with the TPP, the TTIP that President Trump shut down.
	He also shut down the Paris Climate Accord.
	That was so dear to their hearts, as well as the Iran deal.
	Understand that when we had Brexit and the election of President Trump, that was a major defeat for them.
	And it's only gotten worse as President Trump has been in power, shutting down those trade partnerships, as they like to call them.
	That's the way they got everybody under their thumb in Europe.
	Was by creating a free trade zone.
	Well, that's a good thing.
	Yeah, we want to have free trade.
	We want to be able to freely trade back and forth goods and services.
	But it doesn't turn out to be that way.
	It turns out to be managed trade.
	And then after they do that for a while, they want to have closer and closer economic controls to the bankers through a common currency.
	And then they come out with political sovereignty.
	That's what they keep telling the people in Europe.
	Oh, this isn't working.
	The euro is failing because we need to have greater political control.
	So 2016 was a great year.
	2017 looked like things were going the other way with Macron and he takes power.
	This Rothschild banker who posed as a socialist ushered in playing Beethoven's Ode to Joy.
	But then, things turned around in the fall.
	We saw Germany and a massive surge against Merkel.
	Victories in Hungary, Austria, the Czech Republic, and then in Italy.
	Yeah, the globalists are on the run, but they're going to keep fighting, and they're going to fight dirty.
	In every country, they're going to have a different tactic.
	Stay with us.
	We'll be right back.
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	Welcome back.
	I'm David Knight.
	I'd like to talk a little bit about Roseanne.
	Roseanne has said, don't defend me.
	Don't defend me.
	What I did was wrong.
	Well, I'm not going to defend her.
	I'm going to defend the First Amendment.
	I'm going to defend Western civilization.
	I'm going to defend the values of free speech.
	It's often attributed to Voltaire.
	It wasn't Voltaire who said it, but it was the friends of Voltaire, the writer who put that together, who summarized what he had said.
	That I may violently disagree with what you have to say, or maybe repulse by what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
	If we don't do that, if we don't do that, it is the death of free speech in the West.
	And that's what we're seeing with Tommy Robinson.
	You have to understand, they don't have a First Amendment in Britain.
	Nevertheless, the First Amendment was what they considered to be a negative right.
	They talk about negative rights and positive rights.
	Negative rights sounds like something that's bad, doesn't it?
	Now, a negative right is a prohibition on government action.
	You will not do this.
	You will not make a law that infringes on the free exercise of religion or free speech.
	You will not infringe on our rights to protect ourselves, the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
	Those are negative rights.
	Those are sayings that say that you will not impose excessive fines, that you will not violate our property.
	All those are, you will not do this, you will not do that.
	They're prohibitions of government action infringing on the rights that we possess from God.
	The rights that we have as human beings, that every one of us possesses as creatures of God.
	That was the Declaration of Independence based upon the idea that we have inherent rights based on our humanity.
	And that the government is created to protect those rights and may not infringe upon those rights.
	That idea of natural law is anathema to people like Joe Biden.
	He raked Clarence Thomas over the coals during the confirmation hearings.
	Not because of the phony Anita Hill nonsense.
	And it was totally phony.
	The feminists who were all over that, oh, look, he made some inappropriate remarks, kind of along the lines of what we're seeing today and much of what is the Me Too movement.
	Yes, there's a lot of sexual harassment, And perversion in Hollywood.
	No doubt about it.
	They put it up on the screen for us, folks.
	Are you surprised to see that there?
	They film their dirty fantasies.
	They put it up on the screen, just like the CIA is engaged in their sadistic practices.
	And they're not... They do.
	Or have in the past tried to cover it up.
	But, you know, the accusations against Clarence Thomas by Anita Hill and so forth.
	Anita Hill came out in a couple years and was defending Bill Clinton.
	For what he did with Monica Lewinsky, for what he did against the women that he violently sexually assaulted and raped.
	Anita Hill was defending Bill Clinton in a couple years.
	So don't tell me that there was anything to that.
	He said, she said stuff.
	But the thing that stuck out to me about all of that, that made me angry, that really didn't get any press coverage much, was the anger of Joe Biden over past writings by Clarence Thomas, where he understood the concept of natural rights.
	The concept that our government is founded upon.
	If we don't have natural rights, then what we did in breaking away from Great Britain was wrong.
	It was not wrong.
	It was right to do it.
	And we'd do it again.
	Especially after what happened to Tommy Robinson, believe me.
	But when we look at this, and we have the idea of negative rights that are encoded in our Bill of Rights, even though the government doesn't honor that, or respect it, or care anymore about the Bill of Rights.
	Nobody in the federal government cares about that anymore.
	They do their toilet paper.
	As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you go to Capitol Hill and you see the toilet paper probably has a Bill of Rights printed on it.
	So they can use it like they would like to use it every day.
	Either that or incinerate it.
	But it is still there.
	We will reclaim that one day.
	It is a model.
	It is a blueprint.
	They swear to uphold that.
	And they have criminal liability when they violate that.
	And so we're going to keep the Bill of Rights.
	Even though the government won't keep the Bill of Rights.
	Won't honor it.
	Won't honor their oath to it.
	We're going to keep that.
	But when we look at Great Britain, it is still considered to be a negative right by tradition that they will not do that.
	A positive right is to say that you have a right to health care, you have a right to a home, you have a right to a guaranteed income, to a job, and all these types of things.
	That's socialism.
	See how they play with the language?
	Oh, socialism is positive.
	We are progressive.
	You people are regressive.
	You people are negative.
	No, we're just about liberty.
	Let's see you take that term and steal it.
	They probably will.
	They stole the term liberal.
	Liberal used to be people who were for liberty.
	No longer.
	But when we look at what has happened in Great Britain, how did they lose the concept of it being a negative right?
	How did they lose the concept of it being a fundamental right, a fundamental human right?
	Well, that came about because of the UN and the EU.
	They said, yes, free speech, absolutely, that is a human right.
	But it must not be anything that offends anyone.
	So it must be tempered.
	It must be restricted.
	It must be proscribed by the idea that you can't hurt anybody's feelings.
	If that is the case, by that standard, you cannot have any free speech.
	You can't have any comedy either.
	It's going to be the destruction of the West.
	So what is happening in America?
	Oh, we're protected, right?
	Because we've got that First Amendment.
	Except, as you know, our government doesn't care about the Bill of Rights.
	And even worse, the social media oligarchs that are ruling us now.
	So they turn to the Facebook and the Twitter and the Google surrogates that they have created.
	They use them!
	To enact censorship.
	Because if they were to do it directly, like the UK government is doing, if the American government were to do it directly, we'd say, wait a minute!
	That's a clear violation of the First Amendment.
	At least I hope we would say that.
	Instead they do it through their crony capitalist friends, their crony tyrants that they use.
	And as I've pointed out before, I've seen this work in elections for a long time.
	For 25 years ago, this was the preferred tactic.
	The same thing that's being done with the social media oligarchs was done with the press associations.
	As I've mentioned many times, you would go through all kinds of hoops if you were an independent candidate or a third party to get on the ballot.
	All kinds of signature petitions and so forth that the Republicans and Democrats would never have to do, and they would make you do it over and over again every election cycle.
	Because it would set the bar for keeping your status on the ballot impossibly high.
	But then once you jump through all these hoops that they didn't have to jump through, they could easily exclude you from the debates by saying the debates are being run by private operation.
	The private operation was an association of newspaper and media in the state.
	And guess what?
	The mainstream press worked with the government to suppress all ideas outside of the two established parties.
	And then when you complained about it, they said, we can't do anything about that.
	That's private.
	It's a private forum.
	We're not running that.
	That press association is running it.
	They get to make the decisions as to who's going to be included or not.
	And that's the same argument that is being applied.
	They know exactly what they're doing.
	It's a template.
	They use this over and over again.
	That's what they're doing now with Facebook and Twitter, even though we had a judge come after President Trump.
	And say, you can't ban anybody off of your personal Twitter account.
	This isn't even the POTUS account.
	You can't ban anybody off of that because Twitter is a public forum.
	And you can't mute them either.
	You can't block them and you can't mute them.
	Well, muting is what Jack Dorsey, the president of Twitter, does when he shadow bans your tweets, my tweets.
	Blocking somebody is what he does when he takes them off, but of course he has more power than the President of the United States.
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	you Welcome back.
	Before I talk about Roseanne, I want to continue a little bit about Tommy Robinson, because as I said in the last segment, if we allow the truthiness watchdogs like Snopes and Southern Poverty Law Center to tell us what we can and cannot say, And then allow late-night television, which they should be, look, Saturday Night Live and Stephen Colbert and all those people, they've made a career out of vicious criticism of President Trump, even Sarah Sanders.
	I don't like it.
	I don't find it to be funny.
	I find it to be very offensive.
	But, you know, that's their right.
	Like I said before, as attributed to Voltaire, of course it wasn't his exact quote, it was a summary of what he said.
	I disapprove of what they say, but I'll defend their right to say it.
	Defend to the death their right to say it.
	It's very important that we have free speech.
	And so when we look at how this all dies, it began dying in the UK when they accepted all this hate speech.
	laws and regulations coming out of the EU and the UN.
	And we've now seen that that has taken root in the United States thanks to the socialist universities that we, so many of us, send our kids to.
	I'm not sending my kids there.
	I don't do anything to keep them out of the universities.
	But when we look at what it has now become, the idea that you would have this kangaroo court judgment against him for hate speech.
	First of all, hate speech destroys the First Amendment.
	Then you have due process destroyed in order to enforce the hate speech.
	Then the judge goes another level and says, nobody is going to talk about this because I've got a D notice out there.
	Well, what is a D notice?
	Do you know what that is, Americans?
	Do you know what it is, Britons?
	Where'd that come from?
	Of course, D stands for defense.
	This is about national security, supposedly.
	Who is being defended by this?
	Is this judge defending the pedophile grooming gangs?
	Is he defending Islam?
	Maybe he's defending the government bureaucrats, the police officers who protected and covered up what these Muslim gangs are doing.
	I can't understand what is being defended here.
	What national security issue is there?
	And let me tell you, this began as a DSMA notice, which stood for Defense and Security Media Advisory Notice.
	A DSMA notice.
	Defense and Security Media Advisory Notice.
	In other words, media don't report on this because it is a violation of national security.
	And of course, everything bows down to this mythological beast called national security.
	It is the altar on which we sacrifice all of our money to the industrial military complex.
	It is the altar on which we sacrifice all of our liberty and privacy here in America.
	Oh, everything must be sacrificed to national security.
	And just as we saw with the House Intelligence Committee summary of what we already knew, thank you, President Trump, for declassifying that without redaction so we could see that it was nothing but a bluff, that they were simply trying to protect themselves.
	You know, we had a case a few years ago that we reported on here at Infowars.
	I was surprised at how little attention it got.
	Because we had a whistleblower talking about the TSA's phony body scanners, how bad they were.
	We're not allowed to know what their failure rate is.
	Oh, that would be an issue of national security.
	The ineffectiveness of their airport security is an issue of national security.
	No it isn't!
	It's a massive CYA for the TSA.
	They're not going to cover your butt.
	They're going to cover their butt.
	They're going to feel your butt.
	And as we had people here in Texas saying, you're not going to put your hands on my kids, we're going to stop the TSA from doing that.
	At the same time that was happening, at the same time they were saying we're going to make this a no-fly zone, the TSA in its own internal memos was saying there is no threat to, currently, security threat to airplanes or to airports.
	That was revealed in a lawsuit that they inadvertently posted Without it being redacted.
	When they put it up on PACER, the website where they put up government lawsuits, they put up the unredacted version for a while.
	And we got a snapshot of that.
	And you can see what the fraud was.
	We got a snapshot of how they like to classify things as top secret with the House Intelligence Committee.
	And we saw that it was nothing but trying to cover up their crimes, their ineffectiveness, just like the TSA is involved in that.
	So when we look at this, the D Notice was a Defense and Security Media Advisory Notice.
	Then it became a DA Notice, Defense Advisory Notice.
	Then it simply just became a D Notice, a Defense Notice.
	Do you see a common thread here?
	Defense, defense, defense.
	What are the subcategories of this?
	Well, you have five different subcategories.
	One of them is, you can't talk about this because this is military operations, plans and capabilities.
	Is that what Tony Robinson was doing when he was filing a report standing in front of the courthouse?
	No, no.
	The next one.
	Nuclear and non-nuclear weapons systems and equipment.
	Was that what Tommy Robinson was doing when he was reporting on these Muslim grooming gangs and how they had been Protected and concealed by law enforcement and politicians?
	No, I don't think that was it.
	Was it military counter-terrorist forces?
	No.
	Was it physical property and assets of the Defense Department?
	No.
	Was it personnel and their families who work in sensitive positions?
	Was he revealing something about the military, the British military, the defense establishment, the personnel and their families?
	No.
	No.
	So how is this judge using a D-notice there against him?
	That should be the first thing that the people of the UK ask.
	A D-notice?
	Now?
	And I think that it bears an uncomfortable similarity So the National Defense Authorization Act that we had presented to us at the end of 2012.
	Remember, President Obama said, I'm not going to sign that.
	That's indefinite detention by the military without trial, without any due process.
	The CIA or the military can even send you to a foreign country to be tortured.
	That's called rendition.
	I'm not going to sign that.
	And then on New Year's Eve, he signed it.
	And then the next day, he says, don't worry.
	I'm not going to enforce that.
	Yeah, right.
	Right, right.
	See, it was done in the Defense Authorization Act.
	And if you don't think that our government We'll use that against you eventually.
	Right now, we're at the stage where the UK was a few years ago, where they're establishing the idea that they can censor anybody, they can punish and jail anybody because they don't like your speech.
	Somebody somewhere is offended by something you had to say.
	Let me tell you something, they're going to be offended.
	Somebody somewhere is going to be offended by anything that you have to say.
	If you're going to talk about politics or religion or things like that, they're going to be offended by that.
	You know, that's why we have religion and free speech together in the First Amendment.
	Because those are the things that people get offended about.
	And they're important things to talk about.
	We must be able to talk about those things.
	And so if you think that, and it is a stretch, that a judge would use a D notice, a defense notice, to silence anything that is happening against Tommy Robinson, I find a striking and frightening parallel with our NDAA, indefinite detention without trial by the military.
	This is indefinite detention and trial by this judge!
	And censorship of it.
	Secret trials everywhere.
	The West has lost the value of having an open society.
	You know, George Soros says he's about an open society.
	No, he's not.
	He's running his little subversive thing here to overthrow the values of the West.
	He's playing the election law games, using nonprofits and so forth to mask his contributions.
	They eventually do get unmasked by researchers, but not until after the fact.
	But no, an open society is about knowing everything that your government is doing.
	We don't have to know the fine details of where the troops are and what their names are and so forth, but we have to know why we're going to war.
	It makes me disgusted to see Memorial Day ceremonies where you got politicians out there praising the victims of their policies.
	Like I said on Twitter, it's like an arsonist praising the firefighters who died putting out the fire that he started.
	And then they go immediately after the ceremony and start another fire.
	And kill people inside the building, and kill the firefighters who try to put out that fire.
	That's what our foreign policy is.
	Don't tell me about how much you value the military when you're setting the world on fire.
	It's absolutely amazing hypocrisy that we see on Memorial Day.
	Yes, there are people who thought they were doing the right thing.
	There are people who were deceived about these wars.
	And their death needs to mean something, and it can mean something if we stop these future wars.
	Yes, there were people who fought to establish this republic, and we can remember those people.
	And we had some just wars.
	But for the most part, they're abusing this.
	All right, when we come back, I'm going to show you an example.
	of how the U.S.
	does their suppression of free speech.
	In South Carolina, they have the rules against anti-Islamic speech in the U.K.
	In South Carolina, they just passed some anti-Israeli speech.
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	All right, as we listen to Beverly Hills Cop, we're going to talk about the speech police coming up.
	And we have them here in the United States.
	It's not just what's going on with Roseanne, and it's not just what's going on with Tommy Robinson in the UK.
	You know, it was kind of interesting, I thought, that as I would pass the monitor in the break room, getting coffee, see Fox News on the screen, they were all over what was going on with Roseanne.
	They wouldn't talk about Tommy Robinson.
	No, they had a D-notice.
	You know, the people were talking about Tommy Robinson.
	It's Infowars.
	It's RT.
	It's Sputnik.
	It's the people that they demonize all the time.
	They demonize us because we won't play the establishment game.
	And I thought, this is really pathetic.
	That they are, you know, that the attitude that they were taking against Roseanne, but also the fact that they're not talking about this outrageous situation in the UK.
	That they would just acquiesce to this tyranny.
	And say, all right, pull down all the articles about that.
	We won't talk about that.
	We won't talk about that on our network.
	Maybe they did.
	I never saw them talking about it in the time that I stopped by there.
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	Alright, let's take a look at how free speech is dying here in America.
	You know, in the UK you're not allowed to say anything that is critical of Islam or you get the Tommy Robinson treatment.
	But what we have here that is developing in America is in South Carolina you can't criticize Israel.
	So in the UK you can't criticize Islam.
	In South Carolina now you're not going to be able to criticize Israel.
	Isn't that interesting?
	See, this is an article that came out.
	It's from Free Thought Project.
	Their headline was, U.S.
	state passes a law defining any criticism of Israel as anti-semitic just as they kill 60 civilians.
	Now I disagree with the Free Thought Project.
	I don't think that these were innocent civilians.
	I think that this is a weaponized attack against the border and I think they were defending their border.
	That's my opinion based on what I've seen at this point.
	But they have a right to talk about this and to give their viewpoint of what happened here.
	We disagree on that, but we don't disagree on the fact that criticism of Israel, of the government of Israel, should be shut down as anti-semitic.
	South Carolina will become the first state to legally define criticism of Israel as anti-semitism when a new measure goes into effect July the 1st targeting public schools and universities.
	Of course, where do you put the speech codes first?
	Well, you do it in the schools and universities.
	It is a gradual process to get people to give up their First Amendment rights and their free speech rights.
	And then eventually, you'll have these people just like we see with the college students who have gone through this stuff for a while.
	You see them begging, begging to have their freedoms taken away.
	Begging to have their freedom to defend themselves taken away.
	Please take away my guns.
	Please take away all the tools that I have to defend myself.
	Please take away my speech and your speech.
	They want to take away your speech, your tools to defend yourself as well.
	They don't want to just disarm themselves and gag themselves.
	They want to gag you.
	You're the one that they really want to gag.
	And this is something that they've been trying to do in South Carolina for two years.
	They're finally able to do it by slipping it into the budget bill.
	You know, kind of like the NDAA.
	Indefinite detention by the military.
	They slip that into the military budget bill.
	And we have to pass the military budget, of course.
	Everything must be sacrificed.
	So if they stick anything in there that's totally unrelated, like indefinite detention and transportation by the military, secret trials by the military.
	Oh, let's stick that in there because we've got to fund the military.
	And so they stuck this into their budget.
	So what are some of the things that are in here as a definition of anti-semitism now in South Carolina?
	Well, if you accuse the Jews as a people or Israel as a state, this political entity, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust, boom!
	Anti-Semitic and you get penalized for that.
	Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel than to the interest of their own nations.
	Be careful what you say now politically in South Carolina.
	You can't criticize Israel, just like you can't criticize Islam in the UK.
	Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
	Oh, well, there goes Goodwin's law.
	You know, Goodwin said eventually every hot political discussion is going to result in one party or the other, or both of them, calling each other Nazis.
	That's the way it always happens.
	The longer the conversation goes, the higher the likelihood that one or both sides are going to call the other person Nazis.
	Well, in this case, you're going to be accused of being anti-Semitic.
	If you do that, you're arguing with somebody over Israeli political policy.
	This is a political entity they're talking about.
	Or denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, denying Israel the right to exist, provided, however, the criticism of Israel similar to that levied against another country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic, and on and on and on.
	This is the speech code that's been produced by South Carolina.
	See, in principle, it is no different than what is being done by Sadiq Khan.
	And the British politicians who want to protect Islam at all costs.
	We have to be able to be free to criticize other individuals.
	But, not in the case of Roseanne.
	This is where it begins.
	And this is why it's important to defend this.
	We even have the editor Breitbart Nolte saying, yeah, it was justified.
	She compared a black person to an ape.
	Well, not exactly.
	When she talked about this, she said, I didn't even know that Valerie Jarrett was black!
	You look at the pictures of Valerie Jarrett, does she look black?
	Only if you go back and investigate her background, which I did.
	And you know what the interesting thing about Valerie Jarrett is?
	A lot of people didn't know that Valerie Jarrett was black.
	And here's the other side.
	A lot of people think that Obama is black.
	No, Obama is white CIA.
	That's what Obama really is.
	You want to know what Obama's background is?
	He was raised, he's half white, he's half black.
	Oh, he's black.
	No, he's just as white as he is black.
	But what's the bad thing about Obama?
	It isn't his skin color.
	It isn't his features.
	The bad thing about Obama is his CIA background.
	His mother and his grandparents who raised him We're deeply embedded in the origins of the CIA.
	And this is a guy who was raised in Islamic schools in Indonesia.
	He was raised abroad.
	He doesn't have American values.
	He's got Indonesian Islamic values.
	Valerie Jarrett is an Iranian.
	That's more of a background than her racial background.
	As a matter of fact, her parents, who are black, left Chicago because they hated America.
	And she was born in Iran.
	And so that explains a great deal about Obama's Iran deal, doesn't it?
	The fact that Valerie Jarrett held so much power in the Obama White House, this Iranian by birth, her parents who loved Iran.
	So when Roseanne is talking about it, she says, I didn't even know that she was black.
	I thought she was Iranian and Jewish.
	You might think that, based on her policies.
	Not necessarily Jewish, but I would definitely think that she's Iranian.
	Nevertheless, they cancelled Roseanne.
	Viacom has now pulled all the reruns from Paramount Network, from TV Land, from CMT.
	You know, when I look at this, as I said yesterday when I was talking to Tyler Nixon on the fourth hour, The Alex Jones Show.
	I said, Mel Brooks, recently on his 91st birthday, was being interviewed by Classic Film Festivals and Turner Classic Movies and stuff.
	And he was talking about his first program, The Producers.
	He said, I kept shopping this around saying, I want to do a comedy about the Holocaust and Nazis.
	And it's like, you're not going to make that.
	Even back then, when people could do stuff like blazing saddles and everything, where he had a lot of race jokes.
	Oh, he would be excoriated for racism today.
	You got Monty Python's John Cleese talking about how it's the death of comedy.
	You got George Carlin, and I retweeted the meme where he says, political correctness is fascism, pretending to be manners.
	That's right.
	It is the fascism of the left.
	It is cultural Marxism.
	You won't have any comedy.
	Can you imagine what they would do with Don Rickles?
	I never found Don Rickles to be funny.
	I found him to be vicious and offensive.
	A lot of people did.
	But you know what?
	He had a right to say what he said.
	I didn't want to see him taken off the air.
	Not even Michelle Wolf.
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	I'm David and I don't want to finish up with the Roseanne thing.
	I kept saying I'm going to talk about this and I got on the other free speech issues talking about Tommy Robinson and we've got Leo Zagami coming up in the next hour talking to us about what's going on in Italy.
	Very important that we understand what is happening there because we are a part of this as well.
	We are going to stand together for national sovereignty, or we will hang separately.
	That's what the globalists are doing to us.
	So this is a part of the overall picture of Brexit, the Trump election, and the disillusion of the European Union.
	Yes, it needs to be taken down.
	And Trump is just the guy to do it, I think.
	And that's what I think they believe, too, which is why they're working so hard to get him down.
	But let's talk about Roseanne Barr.
	She came back and she said, I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans.
	I'm truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks.
	I should have known better.
	Forgive me.
	My joke was in bad taste.
	And like I said, when we're going to break, so were all the jokes that Don Rickles told.
	But I didn't think that he should have been hung, taken off the air, whatever.
	He had a right to say bad jokes.
	So does Michelle Wolf.
	She's vicious when she comes out attacking people.
	So is Stephen Colbert.
	John Oliver, all these people have made a career out of being vicious.
	But of course, they're on the other side.
	It's that double standard that we have to be paying attention to.
	But it's also what's going on with the big media companies.
	You know, I just talked about how Viacom, run by Sumner Redstone, Pulled all the Roseanne reruns, but it's Disney killing it, just as they will kill Star Wars with their political correctness.
	That was pointed out by Nolte at Breitbart.
	After killing the Muppets with leftist propaganda, Disney murders Star Wars?
	Yeah, that's right.
	They murdered Star Wars, in my opinion.
	With all the feminist propaganda a couple of films ago, now nobody's buying it anymore.
	They want to know why.
	There's absolutely no way that I'm going to spend any money.
	Because I know what Disney is about now.
	I know what their propaganda is about now.
	And these are the people that own ABC.
	These are the people that pulled another top-ranking comedy, Last Man Standing, with Tim Allen.
	Now Fox News has picked that up.
	Tim Allen says the show next year is going to tackle guns.
	Certainly would have been cancelled by ABC.
	Look, ABC was hard left, part of the Mockingbird press, even before they were bought by Disney.
	Disney's only made them worse.
	If you go back to when Obama was pushing through the massive socialist program called Obamacare, understand how important that was.
	As a matter of fact, when I was on my way to work this morning, in the wee hours of the morning, I listened to the BBC on the way in, and they were going on and on about the national health system and how it was a cornerstone of their socialist welfare state.
	Yes it is!
	The schools are a cornerstone of the socialist welfare state, and so is government health care.
	And that's why it was so important for the globalists to make sure that it happened.
	They had a hedge with Mitt Romney.
	Just in case people didn't vote for Obama, they still had the Republican, Mitt Romney, who was going to push through Obamacare anyway.
	He'd already done it in Massachusetts with Ted Kennedy.
	Romneycare was exactly the same as Obamacare.
	And of course, Paul Ryan.
	His vice president, who has made sure that the Republicans, even though they got control of the House, would not ever do anything to damage that socialist foundation.
	They're moving us gradually into socialism, and that's very important for them to have that health care there.
	But when they were debating health care, ABC was running news stories every day out of the White House.
	And the GOP said, wait a minute.
	Uh, we want equal time.
	They said, we're not giving you equal time.
	And then the GOP said, all right, then we want to buy some ads to counteract what you're saying.
	And ABC said, we're not going to sell you those ads.
	We're not going to give you equal time.
	We're not going to let you buy time on our network to oppose our political agenda.
	And so now you've got ABC teaming with Disney, shutting down Last Man Standing, the most popular comedy, shutting down Roseanne, the most popular show on television, because ratings and money don't mean anything to them.
	It's their political agenda.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	I'm David Knight.
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	Live from the Infowars.com studios in Austin, Texas, it's your host, David Knight.
	Welcome back.
	Coming up in the next segment, we have Leo Zagami joining us from Italy.
	Leo was censored on Italian radio, Radio 24, after only 60 seconds.
	We're going to give him longer than 60 seconds to talk to us and tell us what is going on in Italy as we've got the IMF and the bankers overthrowing the election.
	We've got George Soros.
	Working with Brexit groups to try to have another Brexit referendum.
	They don't get the results that they like in the Italian election.
	They don't get the results they like in the Brexit election.
	Oh, but let's have a do-over until we get what we want.
	Same with President Trump, of course, and that explains a lot of what's going on between the UK and the CIA trying to overthrow Trump's election.
	But I want to finish up with the issues brought up By the firing, uh, the cancelling of Roseanne Barr's show based on what she said on Twitter.
	And, uh, if we take a look at this, as I said, it is the death of comedy if you can't make bad jokes and make fun of people.
	We've had people in my lifetime, Mel Brooks, Don Rickles, Monty Python, you name it, any comedian, George Carlin, they all The essence of it is to make fun of people, to do caricatures of people, just like a political cartoon.
	In a caricature, you exaggerate certain aspects of people's appearance or their personality.
	This, by the way, is continually done by the left on a nightly basis.
	That's what they have based all of their success on since President Trump became president.
	And it's okay for them.
	Vice loves it.
	Vice as a matter of fact, the Vice News on HBO ran a segment about the growing number of comedians who won't play college campuses because leftists can't pick a joke.
	They said comedians won't play colleges because leftists can't pick a joke.
	That's right, they would be shut down.
	But of course Slate then goes on to say Michelle Wolf and her Netflix show is the funniest when she is the most vicious.
	Attacking Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	Attacking her appearance!
	Making all kinds of cruel remarks about her appearance.
	Ad hominem attacks as part of it.
	Look, she doesn't like Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	I understand that.
	And I don't find her stuff to be funny.
	I see it as a failed attempt at humor.
	Getting vicious, I don't think.
	Makes her funny, doesn't make her good.
	But the people who don't like the Trump administration, don't like Sarah Huckabee Sanders, they like that.
	But it only works for one side.
	Let's get Sarah Huckabee Sanders' response to some of the viciousness of Michelle Wolf, who is celebrated by the mainstream media.
	Here's Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	What happened, there's no excuse for that.
	Women should support other women.
	I just wanted to get your reaction because I thought you handled it with grace and with class.
	Thank you.
	Look, I think that that evening says a whole lot more about her than it does about me.
	The people that were my friends before that evening are my friends today and I'm going to continue doing the job that I came here to do every single day.
	I'm very proud of the fact that I work in this administration for this president and we're going to keep pushing forward and doing everything we can to make America better and I think we've had a great first year and a half at doing that.
	A huge success story that we're proud of and I hope that she can find some of the same happiness that we all have because I think she may need a little bit more of that in her life because the rest of us here are doing great.
	So, I thought that President Trump was out to shut down the First Amendment.
	I thought his administration was a bunch of free speech Nazis that wanted to shut down.
	Did she say she wants to shut down Michelle Wolf?
	Throw her in jail?
	Like this British judge did to Tommy Robinson?
	But that's where we're headed if we go down that route.
	Of saying, if you say something that offends me, I'm going to call that hate speech.
	I'm going to make that a crime.
	Eventually we'll first start with taking you off of social media.
	We will criticize you.
	We'll cancel your shows.
	Then we'll put in financial penalties.
	Then we'll put in jail terms.
	Then we will just disappear you.
	And we will threaten the press, the freedom of the press, to say anything about it.
	That's how free speech dies, by those types of degrees.
	We've already seen it happening in the UK.
	But good for Sarah Huckabee.
	She did not, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, she didn't jump into that.
	Even as Michelle Wolf is attacking her, saying she's an ugly, she's got an ugly personality and so forth.
	And then the thing that everybody is saying that Roseanne said that is absolutely indefensible.
	She compared Valerie Jarrett, saying that she was a cross between the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes.
	And Roseanne came back, honestly, she said, I thought she was white.
	She said she thought that the target of her rant was white, and she blamed Ambien sleeping pills.
	She said, yes, mistakenly, I thought she was white.
	She said, I honestly thought she was Jewish and Persian, ignorant of me for sure, but I did.
	Well, see, as I said before, the salient thing about Valerie Jarrett, if you want to understand the Obama-Iran deal and so forth, is that she was born in Iran.
	That her parents, even though they're African-American, hated America.
	They went to Iran.
	That was where she was born.
	And the salient thing about Obama, who is white CIA, is the fact that he is CIA.
	The fact that he was raised in a Muslim country, going to Muslim schools.
	But then we have Valerie Jarrett, Playing the victim.
	Taking exactly the opposite approach of Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	This is Valerie Jarrett, going on MSNBC.
	I think we have to turn it into a teaching moment.
	I'm fine.
	I'm worried about all the people out there who don't have a circle of friends and followers who come right to their defense.
	The person who's walking down the street, minding their own business, and they see somebody cling to their purse or want to cross the street.
	Or every black parent I know who has a boy who has to sit down and have a conversation, the talk, as we call it.
	And those, as you say, those ordinary Okay, that's all I can take of her.
	This woman playing the victim card has had the most privileged existence of anybody you can imagine.
	Her parents were wealthy.
	They're part of the establishment, the left establishment in Chicago.
	Her father was a doctor.
	Her mother was high up in the educational circles in which Bill Ayers and others travel in order to subvert the educational system.
	This is a woman of privilege.
	Playing the victim racist card here.
	Yeah, it is a teachable moment.
	It is a teachable moment about how we're being controlled and about the double standard.
	Did you hear Valerie Jarrett or the mainstream media talk about the fact that Louis Farrakhan was tweeting out, again, on Twitter, just like Roseanne?
	What did Louis Farrakhan say?
	Roseanne made a bad joke, a tasteless joke, a Don Rickles type of joke.
	So what?
	I don't care.
	You've got Louis Farrakhan coming out.
	Why should there be an end to the white man?
	Because his nature is not in harmony with the nature of God.
	Now this is a guy who is full out selling not only racism but genocide.
	And he gets a free pass from the mainstream media.
	He gets a free pass from Valerie Jarrett.
	What did Valerie Jarrett have to say about this?
	If Valerie Jarrett is all about racism, that creature of privilege, Valerie Jarrett, Why are there crickets when it comes to Louis Farrakhan saying we have to end white people?
	This is beyond saying it is not okay to be white.
	That is clearly the message of the left, but that is the teachable moment there, folks.
	The double standard.
	Here's another double standard.
	Remember ABC?
	We're talking about ABC, about Disney, and it was only a couple months ago, less than two months ago, beginning of March, We had Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, that owns ABC, the people who just abruptly cancelled Roseanne because she made a bad joke.
	Remember what Joy Behar said when Joy Behar seriously mocked Vice President Pence and the idea of prayer and his Christian faith?
	Calling into question his mental sanity because he was a Christian?
	Remember that bigotry that was put on that ABC program owned by Disney?
	And remember how the CEO of Disney that owns ABC, Bob Iger, remember how he responded to that?
	We had 30,000 calls in like a 24-hour period or something about Joy Behar's anti-Christian bigotry.
	They really didn't care about it.
	Joy Behar never, never publicly apologized.
	We were told That she had privately apologized to Vice President Pence about that.
	But she wouldn't apologize to the Christians that she had offended.
	Not gonna apologize about that at all.
	Roseanne publicly apologized, profusely apologized.
	That's the double standard.
	They said Vice President Pence, when she apologized to him privately, encouraged her to do it publicly.
	She refused.
	And Disney didn't have a problem with that.
	See, some people are okay, no matter what they say.
	Because they support a political agenda that is aligned with Disney and the globalists.
	Remember that when you go to the movies.
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	Welcome back.
	I'm David Knight and we're going to be talking to Leo Zagami from Italy.
	Before we do, real quickly, I just want to give you an update as to what's happening here.
	We've had global markets descending into a contagious panic as Italy implodes, reports Zero Hedge.
	Italian President Mattarella rejected Eurosceptic Paolo Savona for economy ministry position because of the appointment, he said, would have alarmed markets and investors, Italian and foreign.
	They said, yes, that is very ironic in retrospect, isn't it?
	Because now the markets have truly been alarmed because they've shut down this election.
	And of course, these are the bankers, the IMF and so forth.
	Forza Italia said they would not support this government.
	Five Star and League, that's the two nationalist parties, one of them socialist, one of them conservative.
	Set their sights on the now highly likely new elections that will be coming in September.
	So we want to get an update from Leo.
	I just want to say one more thing in terms of this economic background that we've got here.
	We look at what was happening the day before all the stuff broke.
	There was a story on Zero Hedge.
	First Greece, now Italy, Portugal next.
	They're talking about what's going to happen with this.
	And they looked at the debt of various countries as a percentage of GDP or GMP.
	And They had Greece at 177 percent, Italy at 130 percent, Portugal at 122 percent.
	By comparison you had Belgium at 101 percent of GDP in terms of their debt ratio.
	Britain and France, France was 96 percent, the UK was 86 percent.
	But they were looking at this and they said the European Commission has forecasted a slow but further decrease of government debt In the coming years.
	They said it came down slightly in the last few months, so they thought things were improving at that point.
	But then what the bankers are doing over the last couple of months was raising the interest rates at which the Italian government had to borrow money.
	Which amounts, this higher interest rate, means that they're taking an additional 4% of GDP.
	So they create a crisis By saying, well, we're going to call your, even though things are improving, according to them, the IMF comes in and the bankers come in and they say, well, we're going to raise the interest rate.
	We're going to call you a junk bond.
	And then we're going to take over your elections and put a IMF director, or as they did in the case of Greece, a former Goldman Sachs person in charge here.
	All right.
	So we go to Leo Zagami and he was censored yesterday on Italian Radio 24 after just 60 seconds.
	I want to give him a chance to talk longer than that, so I'll make this short.
	He actually doesn't need any introduction, but I'm going to give him one anyway.
	You can find his website, LeoZagami.com.
	He's an author of 12 published books based on a variety of subjects, history, secret societies, as well as the New World Order.
	Joining us from Italy is Leo Zagami.
	Welcome, Leo.
	Hello, David.
	Well, we are in a historical moment here in Italy.
	We're living in this sudden crisis that is pushed by the markets and the euro dictators who have opposed Paolo Savona.
	But let's not create also this information regarding Paolo Savona.
	He didn't really want to exit the euro.
	He once criticized the euro in a publication, one of his many publications, as he does as a university professor, and that was enough.
	For the left wing and for President Mattarella to oppose this coalition and this government proposed by the coalition.
	Just mere criticism.
	Just mere criticism.
	He doesn't want to propose getting out of it.
	Just criticize it a little bit.
	You have to fall in line and praise and worship it, right?
	Yes, but the Democrats, who have lost the elections here in Italy, in the last few hours have now created a new conspiracy theory that sees Matteo Salvini, Paolo Savona and other people cosplaying against the euro so they could exit this This hell, this pure hell, which is this euro currency, which since we have the euro in Italy, we only have the loss of work for thousands of
	people, millions of people have lost their job.
	We have everything is costing basically double as much as what it used to cost.
	Nobody really wants the euro.
	But the political parties of the coalitions were not really putting into discussion the euro because it wasn't on their agenda.
	So just a mere criticism was enough to put aside Paolo Savona, but they already had this guy called Cotterelli, which is shown now in the picture, which comes from the biggest Catholic university.
	He's, of course, a Jesuit agent.
	He's somebody that is in league with the Vatican, because it's the Vatican that in the last few weeks has really opposed this coalition, saying that whoever comes to power has to accept the immigrants, has to accept the flood of immigrants, and the money that we give as Italians to these people who arrive from Africa every day with boats.
	Now, Italy is going bankrupt, but Germany is not doing anything to save us.
	Actually, Höttinger, this finance minister from Germany, who, as you know, yesterday was really somebody who violated completely all the rules of diplomacy, because Hettinger says in this exclusive interview in Strasbourg that the markets will teach the Italians to vote for the right thing.
	Now.
	The bankers are going to educate the Italians.
	It's a teachable moment, right?
	They can hammer them into submission with the markets, with the finances.
	Yeah, Hettinger is exactly the EU commissioner in this moment.
	I think he has also a role in the German government.
	He is definitely ignoring the fact that Italy has voted for a change and that he shouldn't be involving as the EU Commissioner in something so delicate as the Italian sovereignty because here everybody yesterday when this news came through about Höttinger making this criticism was that how dare this guy involves in Italian politics
	Well, Italians finally have realized in the last few days since the intervention of this Italian president who is an intervention that we can call basically coup d'etat.
	Because he has refused the government who was already aligned for him, and then he has proposed his own choice of somebody who was completely unelected.
	Now, from the information I got... Leo, let me interject something here in terms of the mechanics here, because, you know, people in America, they hear a president has appointed this other guy.
	This guy is not part of the two parties that together formed a majority.
	Neither one of them had a clear majority, so they had to form a coalition after the election, which is a common thing with parliamentary government.
	But the president in Italy, who appointed this former IMF director, is not an elected position in Italy.
	Explain that to us.
	Well, yes.
	Now, the thing is this.
	We can have either a political government or either a technical government, meaning chosen by the president without really picking up from the politicians, but from, as it's been in the last few years, Simply some university professors who hopefully are also in the Bilderberg Club, or they are in the IMF, or they are in the Trilateral Commission, like in the case of Mario Monti.
	And like this Cotarelli, of course, they have to be very loyal to the Vatican.
	This is enough to put them as minister.
	It doesn't matter if they are elected by the people.
	Unfortunately, we need to really rediscuss this whole constitution in Italy, which gives the President of Italy the last word on the choice of militias.
	But the people of Italy are going to have something to say to Brussels, I think, when this thing is all over.
	We'll be right back with Leo Zigami from Italy.
	Stay with us.
	I'm David Knight.
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	Welcome back.
	I'm David Knight and we're talking to Leo Zagami out of Italy, talking about the crisis there and the pushback because I think, Leo, as we're looking at this, Nigel Farage, I played a clip earlier where he said maybe the European Union in Brussels has bitten off more than it can chew because the people of Italy see this as a direct
	attack on their sovereignty, an attempt to overthrow their election, and you know, Nigel was there at the European Parliament complaining when the bankers threw out the Greece election years ago.
	They had a Greek election there and they Threw the guy out and they put in a Goldman Sachs banker.
	In an article that you've got on leozugami.com, you have, in Italy, the Jesuits, the bishops, and the cardinals are in support of the anti-democratic president.
	And you quote the five-star movement leader, you say there is a, he said, there is a big problem in Italy.
	It's called democracy.
	Yeah, the European Union has a problem with national democracies.
	He said, in this country you can be a condemned criminal, you can be a tax fraud convict, and you can still be a foreign minister.
	And he mentions the guy who was both of those things as a foreign minister.
	He said, you can have done crimes against the civil service, and you can be under investigation for corruption, and you can still be a minister.
	But if you've criticized The European Union or the Euro, you cannot be economy minister in Italy and it doesn't end here.
	And so that's really the essence of what they're throwing out this appointment of an economics minister who I think was a university economics professor that was put in there, is that correct?
	Yes, Paolo Savona is an excellent guy who works also very closely with Antonio Maria Rinaldi, who is a collaborator of Italians for Trump, an organization which I preside.
	And so I know him very closely.
	Also, he collaborates with Scenarii Economici.it, which is actually the site which published Savona's statement after the decision of President Mattarella that created outrage all over Italy.
	Let's talk about that in a second.
	Let me jump in here a second, because I want to lay this out for Americans who are trying to understand this political system, because the way that the globalists operate in different countries is always different.
	I mean, they're slow-walking Brexit, and they're going to try to run the clock out on this until they can have another election and so forth.
	But in Italy, your president is not directly elected by the people, is that correct?
	elected by the members, the representatives that are elected. So you have the parliament that elects him and this president was selected by the previous parties who've just been voted out in this last election. So he's their guy, he agrees with them, he's pro-European Union and so forth. This is a hangover from these previous administrations and he's the one coming in and saying, no, I'm not going to accept your choice based on the powers, the parties that are in power based on this election.
	I'm going to override that.
	So he's the establishment man that is the hangover vetoing what these two political parties want to do.
	Is that a correct analysis of this?
	Absolutely, David.
	And my friend Professor Rinaldi, who is a dear friend of Savona, told me today that the Italian president forced the Italian constitution doing this.
	I mean, he literally forced it because he should have only accepted the proposal without really getting into the political line of a government.
	But the problem is that Mattarella, the Italian president, is himself controlled by The ex-president, Giorgio Napolitano, who is, of course, a loyal Mondialist, who is in line with the Vatican.
	And today, Monsignor Giancarlo Bregantini, who is the Bishop of Campobasso, said that basically it's incompatible to be in the Five Star Movement and being a Catholic.
	I mean, a bishop of the Catholic Church today made this statement.
	And in the last few days, as I wrote also in my article, the Jesuits have come in support of this Mattarella, but many people have called for his impeachment.
	Of course, things today have... this backlash was so big that Mattarella himself went back on his decision to nominate Cottarelli.
	So we really don't know what's happening now.
	Either he is going to nominate a technical government.
	Probably we will still have Gentiloni, the present minister, in control of Italy until the new elections that will be called at the end of July from the last news we are getting now.
	But even if they do a new election, the problem is that the system, the electoral system, like I said already before the elections, if you remember, is rigged.
	So basically When on the 4th we had this election, I was the first one to say Italy will not be able to nominate a government in this situation and that's what happened.
	Of course, the last few months have created so much change also in the perspective of the Italian people who see the EU imposing their will in an undemocratic way.
	Intervening also with people like Hettinger, the EU commissioner, and with all these people saying Italy should do this, Italy should do that, and the Vatican saying you have to respect Europe, you have to bring in the immigrants.
	I mean, we are not able to have a democratically elected parliament.
	Doing their own job.
	This is really an unheard situation.
	As I said, the day after the elections, the only solution, unfortunately, unfortunately, this is not only me saying it, but also a journalist like Massimo Fini, it could be a coup d'etat, but also a civil war later on.
	Because if you start opposing the will of the people, now the only ones who went
	in the streets and said that the president was doing the right thing, where the Democratic Party, the one that is in bed with Clinton, with Soros, with their flags, and the Anpi, who is basically the association of partisans, still a few live, of course, probably their sons or whatever, the partisans are the ones who fought fascism, and they came out with a statement saying, oh well, we are defending democracy, we have to protect our president.
	No, my dear friend.
	This president is a criminal.
	That's it.
	Let me ask you about the Vatican, because you just said that they anathematized the Five Star Movement, which is one of the leading parties.
	I think they had the most number of votes.
	I think the League was second in that.
	But they anathematized them.
	The Vatican is saying, you've got to do everything that the EU tells you to do out of Brussels and so forth.
	Is the Vatican, since it's a nation-state, is it in the European Union?
	Do they have elected members of the European Parliament coming from the Vatican?
	Well, as you know.
	What is the key party in the European Union?
	The Christian Democratic Party of Angela Merkel.
	Christian Democrats are Jesuit agents.
	I mean, this is a story.
	So, if you go and see who is ruling the EU, it's all people from the Catholic universities, from the Jesuit universities.
	So, I mean, the Vatican not only has a say, but they have an imposition that they make.
	They have this organization called CEI, which is basically the Committee of Italian Bishops.
	And this committee of Italian bishops has been talking a lot and making declarations the last few days, saying that Italy should not be so populist.
	The same things that basically the EU dictators are saying, because they are all in bed together.
	These are the liberal forces that oppose Donald Trump.
	We've only got about a minute and a half, and so before we run out of time, I want to get your take on, it looks like you're going to have another election, that they will reject this, it'll call another election.
	Do you agree with Nigel Farage that this is going to galvanize the people, that they're going to make this a referendum, as the Five Star and League have said, they're going to make this a referendum on sovereignty against the EU and against the Euro?
	Do you think that's what's going to happen with this?
	There is a big problem here, David, because the EU will never permit Italy to go out of this monetary union.
	We can try to actually put this in a debate and maybe do a referendum, but I think that the EU will actually intervene in an undemocratic way, whatever the result is.
	I think the only way of freeing ourselves from Europe is to close down the borders and get the military involved.
	There is no way we can get independent from Europe in a democratic way.
	They will never permit it because they have given millions, billions to Italy.
	And of course, when you give so much money, you want it back, like they're doing with Brexit.
	They're creating a lot of problems for Brexit.
	And at the same time, they are bringing in the immigrants and they want us to keep on bringing in the immigrants and treating them in a certain way.
	I agree with you.
	I wish we had more time.
	That's Leo Zagami.
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	We're going to be talking in the next hour to a victim of the MKUltra program, CIA's program that began in the 50s.
	It was supposedly shut down in the 70s.
	I'm going to make the case for you that I think that it is going on in a much more sophisticated way today.
	You are going to be a subject of this in a short period of time, and I'll tell you how I think that's going to be happening.
	If it isn't already happening to you now, I mean, there's a lot of people that are under this type of thing.
	It's one of the things that they got upset about.
	Uh, that Roseanne Barr was tweeting about when she did her tweeting frenzy last couple of days.
	Uh, one of the things she talked about was CIA mind control.
	Oh, that's just a conspiracy theory.
	No, it's a conspiracy fact.
	From the Conspiracy Intelligence Agency, or the Criminal Intelligence Agency, the CIA.
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	All right, let's talk a little bit about what's coming up.
	And just to give you a taste of this, the lady that we're going to be interviewing in the next hour, here's part of her statement.
	She said, I, Ellen Atkin, have carried unbearable burdens of my mother's and father's mental illness my entire life.
	Both of them were patients in the psychiatric departments of several Ontario and Quebec mental hospitals.
	There is ample evidence now that both of them and myself were experimented upon and used as human guinea pigs, part of the MKUltra program.
	There is now a group called, it's Survivors and Families of those, let's see, what's the official title of this?
	It's been reported on, Survivors Allied Against Government Abuse.
	And they have discovered that the Canadian government and some institutions in Canada were part of this CIA MKUltra program that was exposed as part of the Church Intelligence Committee hearings.
	It's not a conspiracy theory.
	It really happened.
	And you don't know the full extent of this, because the CIA director, Richard Helms, destroyed the evidence, just like Gina Haspel destroyed the evidence that would incriminate her and others of torture during the debacles surrounding the Iraq war and the aftermath of 9-11.
	That's the way they do this.
	We will never know the full extent of what she and others did, because she covered up that information, just as we will not know the full extent of Project MKUltra.
	But we do know that it existed.
	And it has some eerie similarities, I think, to what we have just seen, this shameful history of Gina Haspel and others.
	You know, I talked about the criticisms of Michelle Wolf, the personal attacks against Sarah Huckabee Sanders and so forth, and how Sarah Huckabee Sanders rose above that.
	She's a very effective and gracious spokesperson.
	I disagree, however.
	With Sarah Huckabee Sanders, defense of Gina Haspel.
	Defending her on the basis that she's a woman.
	She may be a woman, but she's not a role model for women.
	She's not a role model for human beings.
	These people are disgusting to the CIA.
	So what was Project MKUltra?
	It was a program of experiments on human subjects.
	It was illegal.
	Just like Gina Haspel's torture program.
	They were going to identify and develop drugs and procedures that they could use for interrogations and to force confessions.
	Does that sound like our Enhanced Interrogation Project?
	Maybe they should have just called it Project Enhanced Interrogation.
	That wouldn't sound as sinister as Project MK Ultra.
	They were going to force confessions.
	They were going to do it through mind control.
	They were going to do it through psychotherapy, drugs, hypnosis, and so forth.
	They officially sanctioned it in 1953.
	They reduced its scope in 1964.
	It was exposed in 1973 by the Church Commission hearings.
	And then shortly after that, you had Richard Helms destroy all the evidence to keep himself and others out of jail.
	Because, folks, what they did was a violation of the Nuremberg Code.
	We had executed people for this not too long before that.
	I mean, we had executed people in 1945 For what these war criminals had done in Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.
	And here they are starting this eight years later in 1953.
	As a matter of fact, less than eight years, because it took a while for these Nuremberg trials to run through and so forth.
	And meanwhile, it was the CIA bringing a lot of these war criminals who weren't given a show trial, who weren't given a show execution.
	They got the guys who really knew the stuff, who had conducted these experiments on people and said, well, that's kind of useful information for us, and we'd like to have the information from these guys.
	And we know that they're willing to do anything.
	They have absolutely no moral restrictions on what they do.
	We could use people like that here.
	Yeah, we could use that kind of person.
	So they brought them over.
	Operation Paperclip.
	And then I started MKUltra and many other things.
	They became, those scientists, those war criminals that the CIA brought over, they became the basis of our biological warfare system, our chemical warfare system.
	They wanted to use them.
	So these people engaged in illegal activities.
	They used US and Canadian citizens.
	The Canadian citizens are now the ones who are fighting back against this.
	Because, you know, in the US we can't get any information about what our criminal government has done.
	They wanted to manipulate people's mental states to alter their brain functions.
	They wanted to surreptitiously administer drugs, especially LSD.
	You know, we look at the war on drugs and the seminal role that LSD played in changing the public opinion embracing the war on drugs by Richard Nixon.
	The war on drugs was a UN agenda that was specified and enacted ten years later by Nixon, but they put it together in 1961, the UN did.
	They gave us four schedules.
	They put all the different drugs into the four schedules.
	They made marijuana a class one drug, saying that it had absolutely no medical use.
	Not true.
	Ten years later, Richard Nixon did the war on drugs in 1971, and he just copied over the UN agenda.
	That was his war on drugs.
	How did he push that through?
	Everybody was scared to death of LSD.
	It was created by the CIA.
	They had some of their test subjects that they let go.
	Timothy Leary and his band of merry pranksters went across the country telling everybody to drop acid and drop out, and it scared the establishment, let's say, crapless, since we're on the radio.
	And they said, oh yeah, we need a war on drugs.
	Let's stop this stuff.
	We've got to do whatever we can to stop this.
	So let's create this war on drugs.
	They were ready for it then.
	They were ready for the UN agenda.
	They weren't ready in 1961.
	They didn't see the need for it.
	But thanks to the CIA and LSD, they saw the need for the war on drugs.
	Big part of that.
	So they would use this, they would give it to people without their consent, without them knowing what was going to be happening to them.
	They did it surreptitiously, secretly, deceptively.
	What did they do?
	Does this sound like Gina Haspel's program?
	Sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, and other forms of torture.
	Folks, the CIA doesn't change, does it?
	Some things in life just go on, and that's the evil of these sadistic criminals that we call the CIA.
	Scope of Project MKUltra was broad, 80 institutions and so forth.
	Eventually, we got a Freedom of Information Act in 1977, four years after Richard Holmes destroyed most of the files.
	He destroyed them in 1973, two years before the Church Committee even got off the ground, the Frank Church Committee.
	In 1977, a FOIA act uncovered a cache of 20,000 documents related to that.
	And so, you know, we've had a little bit of exposure to that.
	Here's some of the stuff that they were doing.
	These ancestors of Gina Haspel.
	Substances which would promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness to the point where the recipient would be discredited in public.
	Oh, that was one of the things that they found in a surviving document.
	That was one of their goals.
	There's another goal.
	They wanted to find substances which could alter personality structure in such a way that the tendency of the recipient to become dependent upon another person is enhanced.
	Another goal.
	Substances which would lower the ambition and the general working efficiency of the public when administered.
	Yeah, it kind of sounds to me like the projects that they're working on now with 5G, with smart cities.
	with all of these mind control tactics that they're still working on.
	We've got a brain initiative that was funded for the tune of anywhere between three and four billion dollars, depending on the person that you ask by the Obama administration over a ten year period.
	They want to be able to manipulate people's minds.
	They are still on it, folks, but in a much more sophisticated way.
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	We're going to continue to talk a little bit about the MKUltra program because we have a guest coming up in this next hour who was a victim of the MKUltra program.
	Her parents were both victims of this program.
	Thinking that they were going in for some minor treatment of depression and they became the victims of these war criminals.
	People like this were executed in the Nuremberg trials but then they were also brought over by the CIA and funded by the CIA.
	And so both her parents and she were victims of this.
	People in Canada are now Banding together to try to get some closure, to try to get some information, and hopefully maybe some compensation from these war criminals.
	But it's not ended, folks.
	This is what I want to stress upon you today.
	That the same government, the same American government that was capable of doing this in the 1950s, the 60s, and the 70s is still doing it today.
	And what is really frightening about this is how much more effective they have become.
	Their techniques were very cruel and brutal back then, but they were primitive.
	Today they are still cruel and brutal, but they're far more sophisticated.
	They've been at this for over 60 years, and they're getting very good at it.
	And that should scare the hell out of you, as to what is coming.
	Because when we look at this, this is about controlling the hive mind.
	They're not necessarily interested in just controlling one or two people.
	You know, they are interested, as Michael Hayden said, they're not interested in bad people.
	That's not the purpose of national security, to protect us from bad people.
	They're interested in interesting people.
	And so they're going to come after the President Trumps, the people who are going to fight the system and so forth.
	But they're also going to come after you.
	They want to know what you, collectively, think.
	They want to control, collectively, the hive mind.
	They want to control it with a control grid.
	The United Nations has come up with a tactic to do this.
	They want to keep people, the UN, they call it an agenda for sustainability.
	It's all for protecting planet Earth.
	No, it isn't.
	No, it is about putting the planet under their control.
	Confining you to the cities.
	Controlling your ability to move, to communicate, to shoot.
	Your ability to think.
	They want to control your mind.
	Collectively.
	And so you have these different tactics that they have done, the different technologies that they have come up with.
	You have geospatial intelligence, which is there to monitor and to predict where public opinion is going, and then to create a narrative, to shape public opinion, to be able to measure how public opinion is changed by that narrative and to continue to alter it.
	To map you as individuals onto a geographical map.
	And say, these are problem areas for us.
	Over here, these people are still thinking freely.
	They're still interested in liberty.
	Or they're still Christians, or whatever, in this area.
	So we gotta work more on these people.
	Or just confine them, or eliminate them, or whatever.
	It's called geospatial intelligence.
	This is where James Clapper hit out.
	It's looking at your metadata.
	As I've pointed out many times, it's your activity-based intelligence and the human domain analytics.
	They want to master the human domain.
	Remember, that was the motto for Jade Helm.
	I don't think Jade Helm was about a kinetic operation at all.
	It was about a psychological operation.
	That has been the motto of some of their geospatial intelligence conferences.
	Mastering the human domain.
	They don't know everything about you, so they can master you.
	If we look at the DARPA and the Brain Initiative, and of course DARPA, they're just out there trying to help disabled veterans, right?
	Yeah, the defense industry and defense weapons, yeah, they're just there.
	Those robots that you see that look so sinister, they look like early prototypes for the Terminator series, they're there just to help little old ladies cross the street.
	And all this mind control stuff, eh, it's just there to help veterans who are suffering from PTSD, or people who have lost limbs, you know, that's really what that's about.
	No, by DARPA's own admission, it looks pretty creepy, even though they're trying to Cover this up.
	Yeah, restoring active memory.
	They call it RAM.
	See, they look at your brain as simply a physiological computer.
	Not random access memory, but restoring active memory.
	And the fact that they're going to test wireless, fully implantable neural interface medical devices that they can do.
	You know, it's important that they do this wirelessly.
	And it's also important that they don't actually have to put you through surgery.
	That might be a bit of a tip-off.
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	Live from the Infowars.com studios in Austin, Texas, it's your host, David Knight.
	Welcome back.
	I'm David Knight and we're going to be talking in the next segment to a victim of the MKUltra program.
	A Canadian victim.
	And we've got a lot of survivors and families of people who were affected by the criminal CIA program that has a lot of parallels to what is still going on today.
	Not only the enhanced torture of Gina Haspel, but also the high-tech way that mind control has moved in the last few years.
	We're going to talk to her about Her personal experiences, her family, it got both her mother and father, and what is going on with that program to try to uncover some of what was not destroyed by Richard Helms as he destroyed records just like Gina Haspel destroyed records of her torture program.
	But I want to talk to you a little bit about what is currently happening.
	You know, we're told, oh, well, the MKUltra program, it was exposed by the church committee hearing and they shut that down.
	Yeah, technically they don't call it that anymore.
	Technically, it was not really very efficient for what they wanted to do, but their objectives remained the same.
	If you look at what they were trying to do, again, a big part of what they were interested in, in their sadistic program, were to try to get information from people.
	It was sold as an interrogation method, and they didn't care if they tortured people, they didn't care if they drove them insane, they didn't care if they killed them.
	They wanted to get that information.
	And they also wanted to be able to manipulate and control people, to get them to do things that they would not normally do.
	A big part of this was to alter people's memories.
	What are we seeing today?
	I reported a couple weeks ago on the situation where they said, look, with DNA transplanting, we can teach something to a group of snails, behavioral reactions and so forth, or get them to understand something is happening, and then we can transfer, using DNA, we can transfer that memory to snails who've never been in that experience, and they will know what to do.
	See, that is a big part of what DARPA is still working on today.
	DARPA wants to be able to implant false memories, things that you never had.
	They want to, in some cases, they want to talk about advanced learning.
	So they can just give you the ability to do something.
	Oh, that sounds pretty cool, isn't it?
	Except when you understand that they can put memories in your mind of things that never happened.
	They can destroy the real experiences that you remember.
	They can remove those memories.
	And they can read your memories.
	All of these are aspects that they're working on.
	Being able to read your memory, to be able to destroy your memory, to be able to give you a memory of something that never happened.
	Those are current objectives of the DARPA programs that are out there, the brain research that is out there.
	It puts all new perspective on the Orwellian term memory hole, doesn't it?
	Right now, you can be flushed down the memory hole.
	You can just be eradicated from Twitter.
	They have the ability, and they're going to be using that pretty soon, just to flush everything.
	Find your voice everywhere.
	If you're a broadcaster like me or Alex or whatever, just find your voice and shut you down everywhere.
	You just disappear.
	Well, they can do that to your memory, too.
	That's what they're working on.
	Take a look at some of the things that DARPA taught.
	This is from DARPA's website.
	I pointed out that they want to be able to wirelessly control a surgically implanted device that will interface into your brain.
	But, you know, that's a little bit invasive and obvious when they do something like that.
	You got somebody with a big scar on the back of their head or jack sticking out there, you know, or maybe they can erase the memory of the surgery, but it's like, hey, what is this back here, you know?
	But they also want to do it with non-surgical ways, because that's the most important thing.
	Things that are going to work without the requirement of surgery.
	And as I point out, to be used by able-bodied people.
	It's not just the people who are disabled that they want to help.
	They'll talk about, oh look, DARPA is helping a paralyzed man feel again using a brain-controlled robotic arm.
	Okay, prosthetics, yeah, that's fine.
	But that is not Really the brief of the advanced defense weapons group called DARPA.
	That's not really what they're interested in.
	These people and part of this brain research program that Obama started funding back in 2013.
	At the time it was a three billion dollar program.
	I think it's now expanded four billion dollars.
	They were going to do it over a decade.
	Three hundred billion dollars a year.
	And at the time you had A lot of scientists are saying, hey, we're not really too comfortable with this.
	This looks like a massive amount of money.
	And we don't really see any clear goals from this program.
	Hear that?
	What's your purpose in this?
	They're not going to tell you what their purpose is.
	I'm telling you what their purpose is.
	They're not going to tell you what... You think the CIA is going to tell you what their purpose was with the MKUltra program?
	They're not even going to tell you what they're doing with that.
	So yeah, it lacks clear goals, said the scientists.
	They're not being transparent with us about what these clear goals are.
	They're going to be mapping the human brain, whatever that means, and they will determine exactly what that's going to look like.
	And so when we go back, and it's important for us to go back and look at the abuse of individuals, Ellen Atkin that we're going to talk to in the next segment, how these criminals have absolutely, they're psychopaths, they have absolutely no compassion for their fellow human, they are war criminals, they should be in jail or executed in a public trial, just like the Nuremberg war criminals are.
	Those are the types of people that are using far more sophisticated tactics today against you.
	Because when we look at the coming hive mind control grid that is going to be present in the smart cities with 5G and so forth, this is the full spectrum analysis of where this is going to go.
	You can't even imagine what is going to... We've already had, remember back during the Iraq war, We've had people who've come forward as whistleblowers saying, we had a voice of God weapon that was developed by DARPA.
	And we could make people think that they're hearing voices in their head and that would be used to control them.
	And we were able to use that.
	And during Desert Storm, we were able to get Iraqi soldiers to just lay down their arms without a shot even being fired.
	They have very advanced weapons.
	And if they can do that, remember the Navy Yard Shooter?
	He said, this is my ELF gun.
	He didn't think he was Legolas.
	He wasn't saying Elfgun.
	He was talking about extremely low frequency.
	The guy who shot up that place said he'd heard voices in his head and so forth.
	In the 1980s, we had Colonel Aquino.
	He was a NSA colonel.
	He also went on the Oprah Winfrey show.
	Dressed up like Eddie Munster, talking about how he was a high priest in the Temple of Satan and so forth.
	Well, he also published a book called The Mind War, and in that he talked about using extremely low frequencies to control people mentally.
	So they have a lot of different... I don't know all the different tactics and techniques that they're doing, but you have to understand that they are using this against the mass public.
	As activist Post pointed out a year ago, never mind the bombs, the bullets, or other conventional weaponry.
	Consider the use of high-tech stealth weapons, not just for the use of warfare, but for nefarious purposes of population control.
	Whistleblowers have come out talking about DARPA using these high-tech stealth weapons on unsuspecting civilians for mass mind control.
	Of course they're doing that.
	They even have a term for the targeted individuals that the military calls them anomalous human potential.
	Oh, that would be kind of the people that they have identified with their geospatial intelligence and their metadata and so forth.
	Those would be the people that maybe don't agree with the government.
	Maybe they like the Second Amendment.
	Maybe they like to be able to move and communicate and shoot.
	And maybe they don't support this stuff.
	Or maybe it's just their religious beliefs that make them not controllable.
	Maybe they answer to a higher moral code.
	Maybe they believe.
	And of course, you know, you look at, as I mentioned earlier in the broadcast, Joe Biden.
	Hated!
	Clarence Thomas, because Clarence Thomas said, our rights don't come from government, they come from God.
	You think like that, you are an enemy of the state.
	Clarence Thomas is an enemy of the state, folks.
	And when we look at where this is going, and when we look at where it has been, just think about the fact that this was done on unwitting subjects as they were running these things through, and the connection, as I pointed out, to the war on drugs, and the fact that we just recently had a lot of It resurfaced again.
	Why?
	Because WikiLeaks brought up the term again.
	Operation Midnight Climax.
	What was that?
	Well, after the CIA designed LSD, got a Swiss manufacturer to do it, they decided that, you know, they don't want to tell their test subjects what they're doing because, you know, they're war criminals.
	So what they did was they would lure these people into hotel rooms by prostitutes.
	The prostitutes would then give them these LSD drugs.
	These are the sick individuals that would come up with something like the Dirty Dossier.
	Only the sick people at MI5 and the CIA would come up with something like that to try to take Trump down.
	Because that's what they'd already done.
	They would lure people in with these prostitutes, they would give them LSD, and then watch what would happen.
	And they called it Operation Midnight Climax.
	Yeah.
	And then after they scared everybody to death with LSD, they created the war on drugs.
	And then what did that do to our freedoms?
	We'll be right back with Ellen Atkins.
	Stay with us.
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	Welcome back.
	I'm David Knight and we're going to be talking to Ellen Atkin.
	She has an amazing story.
	She recognized herself in an online photo that was talking about, it was just dubbed MK Ultra Girl back in October 2015.
	That was the beginning of a journey where she discovered that not only had she been a subject of the MKUltra program, but so had both of her parents.
	And you can find her on Twitter at MKUltraGirl.
	She also has a blog where she's talking about the MKUltra program.
	That is rawtraveling.blogspot.ca as in Canada.
	And we want to talk to her about what happened to her and her family and what may be happening in the future because we hope All of us do, that we're going to get to the bottom of these criminal actions, these sadistic and criminal actions that were done to individuals without their consent.
	That was the basis of the Nuremberg trials and the Nuremberg Code.
	You do not conduct medical experiments on people, even if it is something that is going to help the general public.
	You're going to find out information, let's say, about hypothermia.
	Well, okay, that's nice to know, but you're not going to be allowed to conduct tests on human beings without their informed consent.
	And for some things that are going to put them at risk, you're not even allowed to do it with their consent.
	That was the result of the Nuremberg Code.
	But shortly after that was done, you had the CIA starting this program.
	That's now, that was 65 years ago.
	And I would say as we look at this, that their technology has changed, but their objectives have not changed.
	So joining us now is Ellen Atkin.
	Thank you so much for joining us.
	Thanks for having me, David.
	I want you to tell people a little bit about your journey of discovery.
	How did you find out about this?
	I just mentioned it briefly.
	I saw an online photo.
	What did you find out about that?
	What did you think before that about the mental illness and your family?
	And how did you just take us on that journey of discovery?
	Okay.
	Well, first of all, your intros just made me want to cry because You know, it's just really quite a lot of pain that is in that story and in my family.
	And that's what I carry.
	And that's how I grew up.
	So that's why I'm doing this.
	It's there.
	It's never been resolved.
	There's reasons.
	And I figure if, you know, there's any reason to live, it would be to get the story out and do my best to resolve it.
	I'm so sorry for your suffering.
	You know, we look at this and we look at it from the standpoint of, you know, this is wrong, but that's why it's so important to hear your voice talking about this.
	Because we have to understand that this is being done to human beings, you know, and this is why when we talk about the enhanced torture program of Gina Haspel, I want you to put a personal human face on this because this has destroyed your life, your family's life.
	There are consequences for this stuff.
	These people are just looking at it from a detached point of view.
	They are animals.
	I mean, these people are every bit as much as animals as MS-13.
	It's absolutely amazing that they could do this, these monsters.
	And that's the thing that we always have to be concerned about as a government, that we don't become the things that we fight, that we don't become the monsters that we go abroad to destroy, or the Nazis that we go abroad to destroy.
	They brought these people in!
	They became the basis of their programs!
	And I want you to talk to people about this and put a human face on this, because I believe this stuff is still going on.
	I believe it's going on in a much more sophisticated way.
	I believe that it's going to be used technologically, not necessarily with drugs, but with electronic controls and so forth.
	They're still looking at the same stuff.
	You know, Ellen, when I look at this and I'm looking at some of the experiments that this doctor who ran the program there in Canada said they were doing de-patterning and psychic driving experiments.
	They wanted to be able to erase memories and to try to reprogram memories of new thoughts.
	These are still the objectives of DARPA.
	They're just using far more sophisticated Technology is now 65 years later.
	That's why it's important for people to see what happened in your life.
	If you could tell us, you know, how this has affected your life and life of your parents.
	You know, it's generational.
	There's a lot of people like me.
	I want to say that.
	There's a lot of survivors.
	I call it the alt, alt, alt news, you know, the alt, because it's unrecognized.
	And it's not just MKUltra.
	Actually, for MKUltra, I lump in everything like satanic ritual abuse, military abductions.
	They're known as my labs, but really, there's many, almost every family of military has a story like this.
	And if you go back into most people's histories, it's not been pretty.
	So this sort of, you know, this veil or this projection that we see, certainly, you know, in my generation, since TV and radio and since there has been the means to project, is Just a projection, you know, it's not real.
	And we try to form it and make it into something that we call our own, but in fact this Control of the projection has always gone on since day one.
	So I'm now going to engage in what I, or actually Joseph Farrell has termed high octane speculation, which is where I tend to go because there's so much speculation around what the Who, what, when, where, why, but I'm telling you the program is widespread.
	It's not just... And just like you, if you hadn't happened across, that's why I started with the discovery thing, because if you hadn't happened across that photo of yourself, You probably, like many people, wouldn't have even understood that you were a part of this program.
	You wouldn't have known the origins of the things that are afflicting you in your personal life, because you wouldn't have any proof of this.
	Richard Helms did everything that he could to destroy this information.
	Some of it persisted, and I think it was at the persistence of Ted Kennedy, because I think he suspected the CIA and their mind control programs of being involved in these assassination attempts.
	So he was pretty persistent.
	I don't really believe that.
	I think there's a lot of people that know a lot.
	to four years later after Helms destroyed a lot of this stuff, find some of this information and release it. But for the most part, they've been very effective at keeping it secret and concealed. Everything our government does is secret and concealed from us anymore, isn't it? I don't really believe that. I think there's a lot of people that know a lot. Obviously, there's, you know, what, a million people working in the civil service in the United States and then maybe, you know, 10% of that in Canada
	because we have about 10% of the population.
	So I think there's a lot of people that know.
	There's a, you know, now they're called whistleblowers, informants, public informants.
	Sometimes people, you know, say things on their deathbed, you know, it's like time to come out.
	But people, a lot of people know this stuff.
	A lot of people have lived with it.
	I could walk into A forest trail and bump into somebody who's had a similar experience.
	It's really not that obscure.
	It's just that they don't talk about it.
	Do you think that they know that they were a part of the program or they just know that something is wrong?
	Maybe you see some commonality there?
	I know that a lot of the people that were a part of this, as you point out, they might make a deathbed confession or they might wait until they retire because they don't want to lose their job.
	I mean, that's the saddest thing about it is that people will put their employment Over taking down people like that.
	We just had, yesterday, we had FBI agents say, yeah, we saw a lot of improper things going on in the FBI, but, you know, if I was given some protection by Congress, I might talk about it, but I might lose my job if I said something like that.
	Seriously?
	Is that how far the corruption has rotted the FBI?
	Yeah, it has.
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	Welcome back.
	I'm David Knight and we're talking to Ellen Atkins.
	She is a survivor, also a victim of the MKUltra program.
	And Ellen, I want to ask you, how did you get involved in this program?
	I know that your parents were in this program as well.
	And of course, nobody was informed that they were going to be having these things done to them.
	But how did you get into it or how did your parents get into this?
	Okay, thanks.
	Yeah, I should focus on my case.
	So, I'm trying to find that out.
	I never really learned much.
	My parents didn't speak much about it, but I was aware my mother was at the Allen Memorial.
	She did get shock treatment by Dr. Ewan Cameron.
	I'm aware of that.
	I also remember the name Dr. Dolly West.
	He's another doctor who was there.
	There's many doctors who were there.
	Ewan Cameron's the fall guy.
	And your mother went there for treatment because of depression or something like that?
	Was that why she got involved in it?
	Mild depression?
	I'm not sure.
	I can't get any straight answers from anybody.
	Not her sister, her twin sister, of course twins are, you know, something that Joseph Mengele loved.
	So Joseph Mengele has been spotted all over North America and South America and so many people's stories, survivor stories as Dr. Green.
	And there's this picture of my father.
	This got like this Joseph Mengele.
	I don't know if it's my father, but I'm pretty sure it is.
	I mean, what a kind of craziness.
	But you know, my family was always like that.
	But my mother was Was depressed and drugged on tranks and antidepressants her whole life.
	So there was some investment by the doctors and her family and my father to keep her that way.
	It was just so sad and very hard for everyone.
	Yeah, so she would not, she did not put her name on the class action lawsuit when it came along, and I just had that confirmed by the Justice Department of Canada because I'm looking for her records right now.
	And then I'll go for my records and then my father's records, or all of them at once, I don't know, but it's going to be quite the research project.
	So I'd like some help with that.
	That would be nice because I don't really have many resources.
	I really do just live a marginal existence.
	And of course people can find you on Twitter at MKUltraGirl and you've also got rawtraveling.blogspot.ca is the blog that you have there in terms of CIA information, the MKUltra program.
	So that was how your mother got involved in this.
	She struggled with depression.
	She goes there for treatment and unbeknownst to her, this doctor, Ewan Cameron, is part of the MKUltra program.
	He's getting money from the CIA to experiment on people without their knowledge or consent.
	And then how did you get involved?
	Was it simply because you were her daughter that they put you in the program?
	What do you remember of that?
	Nothing.
	I don't remember anything of it.
	I mean, I have memories behind the veil.
	I had a dream the other night that there was a kitchen with a whole lot of cupboards and I could only open a few of them and there's just a lot of, it's all compartmentalization.
	I have unexplained injuries.
	I have just, you know, I live with the effects.
	I mean, if you stab a around it, right? So as you get older, everyone will know this, you know, your injuries become more obvious. And so these injuries that they've performed speculatively because there's no proof, so I have to reverse engineer all this.
	And it is speculative until, you know, I can get the records.
	But there may also be other methods like hypnosis, I'm not sure.
	But it would also be, it's traumatic to remember this.
	It was traumatic to see that picture.
	I knew I had a, you know, my mother and father had history in sight.
	You know, in the mental health business.
	I mean, my father had a nervous breakdown when he was 16, but he was in and out.
	I know.
	I mean, we knew that, but he wouldn't talk about my mother a little bit more, but not that much.
	It was all suppressed because, I don't know, but there was something going on.
	My father was involved with the Catholic Church, but he didn't really have faith like a, you know, person who was spiritual should.
	It was more of a political sort of thing.
	I don't know.
	Or cultural type of thing.
	That picture that they just flashed up there briefly, that was the picture where you saw that picture of yourself and that's how you were able to confirm that it wasn't just something in your imagination, that you were actually a part of this secret experiment.
	And this is the same type of thing.
	As folks look at the horrific things that happened during World War II by these Nazi war criminals and so forth, and their experimentation, Mengele's experimentation on twins, and all these things that were done to people, People don't realize that that was being done here in America and in Canada by the Central Intelligence Agency.
	Because they had brought over these types of people, they were exactly like the Nazis.
	And I'm not talking about Goodwin's Law here.
	I mean, we're talking about literal Nazis that came over here and started doing these kind of experiments against people, and they have kept it hidden.
	Unlike what we've had the full revelation of what happened in Nazi Germany, but we haven't had a revelation of what's been done here in America and in Canada.
	We haven't come to terms with this, and we allow it to continue with the CIA.
	Well, the CIA routed out Nazi doctors.
	Like, they'd go find them in the Eastern Bloc.
	They were like, we've got to get them all.
	Like, really.
	I'm reading The Secret History of the CIA by Joseph Trento, if you really want to learn how.
	Yeah.
	Another book I'd recommend to people is the DARPA's Brain by Annie Jacobson.
	I think Annie is her first name.
	But anyway, yeah, that tells you the other side to the DARPA history.
	And if you think these people are just out there trying to, they're doing this because they want to help us with prosthetics and with PTSD.
	That is not what DARPA has been about.
	And it's not what they're about.
	And it's not what the CIA is about.
	You really have to question all that they throw at you for your own good, for your safety.
	You really have to Do that.
	Because most of it isn't.
	So, you know, there's many workarounds.
	That's what I did.
	I just tried to avoid being, you know, institutionalized.
	I did.
	I just took the other way.
	Even though my mother was, you know, had her life ruined by these institutional Mental health professionals, so-called.
	She still believed there was some help in therapy.
	And I know there's some people that do get help by therapy, but I just couldn't abide by any of it because I saw what had happened to her.
	So I just didn't have a roadmap.
	I was just... Well, we understand that a lot of pharmaceutical drugs exacerbate the condition that you're being, that you're trying to get treated.
	All you have to do is listen to the Fox News or the CNN ads where they have the disclaimers and they'll say that it exacerbates Excuse me, the condition that you're taking it for.
	But, you know, it also has a really horrific, sometimes, consequences.
	But this is something that was done sadistically, done deliberately, done criminally to people.
	This is beyond people's greed and saying, well, we want to sell a drug, and yeah, we gave you a little bit of a disclaimer here, but, you know, it has the opposite effect and so forth.
	These are people who are out there with an agenda to try to mess with people's minds.
	And they're doing it They did it on a selective basis with very crude technology 65 years ago.
	They have been refining that technology for the last 65 years, and they want to do it as broadly based as possible, and that's the key thing.
	So, when you got this information, besides that picture, how did you get the information as you've been digging through this?
	You didn't get a stash of information that was declassified anywhere, did you?
	You've just been piecing this together bit by bit?
	It's all on the internet.
	Ironically, the first instance of, I was renewing my quest to bring justice for my mother in 2013.
	She had been dead since 99.
	And within a week of me doing some searches, the movie by Infra Wars, this is the ironic part, Came out that psychology, state of mind, psychology of control.
	And I recognized my mother in a black and white film clip.
	So there she is getting electrocuted by you and Cameron.
	Well, we're going to talk when we come back.
	I want to find out what the status is of these legal movements by other survivors of this program.
	I want to find out where that is and talk about what your goals are to try to expose this.
	We want to see this exposed, just as it was a favor to us all for what Julian Assange and WikiLeaks did.
	We'll be right back.
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	We have one more segment with a victim, a survivor of the MK-ULTRA program.
	She was subjected to this as a young child.
	Both of her parents were involved in the program.
	She was able to verify this from photographs that she saw of the MK-ULTRA program, but of course most of the evidence has been destroyed by the CIA itself, kind of like the torture program.
	And there's so many different overlaps between that and between the MKUltra program and the torture program that Gina Haspel oversaw.
	And we understand that what DARPA is doing right now and this massive amount of money that is being spent.
	This program back in the fifties and sixties they spent I think it was four million dollars.
	They are spending three hundred million dollars per year minimum.
	to try to map the human brain so they can do the same objectives that were supposedly the objectives of these criminal experiments on people conducted without their consent or knowledge. They are still out there conducting experiments without your consent, without your knowledge, and they are spending more than a hundred times that amount of money now.
	They have really stepped this up.
	They have been working on this technology for 65 plus years.
	And their objectives are still the same.
	Mind control.
	To be able to implant memories.
	Erase memories.
	Alter memories.
	To read minds.
	To control people's thoughts.
	This sounds like science fiction, folks, but it is not.
	And Ellen Atkins is an example of this.
	And Ellen, I want to talk about an important part of this, I think, and the movement that you and other people are involved in there, of course, is exposure.
	You want to have some closure as to what has happened in your life as well, but talk to us a little bit about what the goals of these actions that are being taken by the group are here.
	I know you want to get your own personal medical records, but tell us a little bit about the legal action and what form that is taking.
	Well, I just know what you know.
	I have been in contact with Alan Stein.
	For five years, he's a lawyer and he just, he won't return my emails now.
	I think it's my attitude, you know, I kind of have a bad one because I'm angry.
	But I don't know, maybe I'm not supposed to get angry and that'll, you know, it's just... Well, that's part of the closure thing.
	I mean, the exposure is for everybody else to understand what has been going on, what's been done in our name, even though it was done secretly.
	But it's also part of the closure for you to get that information.
	And compensation, I should say.
	You should be compensated for this as well.
	Well, indeed.
	So, I don't know.
	The narrative in that discussion has been since the beginning that it just happened to that group of people and it caused, you know, she wasn't quite the same.
	These kind of quotes that don't nearly sum up what the Devastation, certainly not what I received in my family.
	So the proof, I mean, these are breadcrumbs.
	It is proof, you know, whatever you, if you want to deny it, go ahead.
	But those pictures are proof and I will do whatever needs to be done with the, by the experts for the facial recognition to, Match that up and whatever other tests could be done.
	I really want to get to the bottom of it myself.
	I don't think there's ever any bottom, but I'd also like to have some support because it's kind of It's traumatic to be going through this alone when you're, you know, seeing that picture was traumatic.
	But I just want to back up with my mother's clip.
	So I traced that clip back to University of Oklahoma promotional video done in 53 for their mental health program.
	That was the university where Dr. Jolie-West went after he left Montreal in the Alamo Memorial.
	So that might be a clue there.
	There's just a lot of clues about how I could get to the bottom of this.
	I just, you know, I don't have the time, the money, the space, you know, to do any of this work.
	I can do it a little bit.
	It's just piecing together little breadcrumbs, like you mentioned you saw that clip in an InfoWars documentary, and then you said, that's my mother, and then you track that down to that university.
	It took years because, you know.
	Nobody would respond to me at InfoWars or James Lane.
	It wasn't intentional.
	We just get inundated with a lot of mail and so much of it we don't have time to go through it to be honest with you.
	We're not trying to stonewall you here.
	We want to get to the bottom of this too and I'm sure if anybody had seen that we would have responded with that.
	I've seen other statements from people talking about how their relatives went in with very insignificant mental health problems and then they came out with massive problems.
	Some of them saying they destroyed many parts of me.
	A mother's note saying they destroyed many parts of me.
	I'm lucky to be alive.
	These are innocent people who went in for mild depressions.
	And another one, they came out completely ravaged and their life was ruined.
	I mean, that is the story.
	Of how this all breaks down.
	And of course we've had innocent people picked up by the CIA for other issues and tortured.
	And that's the real crime that continues to go on.
	But it's also the systematic scientific tyranny that's involved here.
	You can't shut the blind or shut the door and just pretend that it didn't happen.
	And my family is a case point for that.
	I mean, I think my parents tried that, but it didn't work.
	And, you know, my sister suffered from it mentally, and I suffered from it on all levels.
	I was just able to do the workarounds and make my way in life a little bit better, but not great.
	I certainly don't feel like I have came down to do my destiny or anything.
	This is what I think it's been to stop me and to stop other people who actually had a purpose to do these things that might right some of these wrongs or lead in the direction.
	It doesn't seem that this world we're living in is the right world.
	It's not the right life, you know, and it's the people without the soul codes that are The one's not paying attention and they get...
	Yeah, that's the sad thing about it is that there are people out there who do have a moral conscience who would be concerned about this if they understood what was going on, but they've been gaslighted themselves by the establishment media and the government to believe that this never even happened.
	That's why it's very important to talk to survivors like you who have photographic evidence that they and their parents were involved in this program, that it really existed.
	I mean, to this day, you've got a lot of people who don't even believe that MKUltra even existed, even though...
	We have evidence from the church committee hearings and so forth that it did exist.
	They think it's just simply a piece of fantasy or a conspiracy theory.
	Exactly.
	That's funny, stranger things.
	I mean, the parallel with that girl and me is quite uncanny, you know, because her name is Elle, and that's my name.
	Her best friend Michael, that was my brother's name, he died.
	And her real name is Jane, that was my mother's name.
	And then in the season two, they actually put it in the script how her motivation is to get justice for her mother, which is definitely my story as well.
	Yeah, interesting, right?
	So, there's a lot of things like that.
	Of course, there was a documentary that came out last year about Wormwood, about Frank Olson, who was involved in that whole system.
	He's either committed suicide or he was executed, you know, and so they did a multi-part series on that kind of a quasi-documentary that his son put together.
	This is something that is a multi-generational thing, and it is a program that I believe is still going on.
	If you look at the objectives of DARPA, nothing has changed except the technology.
	When we look at things, when we look at the principles on which this country was founded, we understand that human nature doesn't change.
	And you've got evil humans, and they have to be controlled.
	And so, you know, the technology changes.
	The technology for mind control is changing, just like the technology for other things have changed.
	But the question is, you know, the evil that is at the center of all this.
	That's what we need to expose, because that's not changing.
	It's in the blood.
	That's what I've discovered.
	That's what I think.
	It's in the blood.
	It's mixed up in all of us.
	And they know how to program it and activate the wrong side because in fact we're always fighting against it.
	But what's happened is that the space has been eliminated now for any sort of life and it's all MKUltra.
	I mean I'm talking about the molecules in the air.
	It's just encroaching on us in so many ways and that's what people are noticing but it's actually It's been a long time coming, this program, and it is in the blood.
	This is, of course, this is the high-octane speculation.
	I don't want to get into it now because it's just way out there.
	But it is in the blood, and that's why it's generational targeting.
	They keep it in the blood, the elites.
	There's something about the negative blood types.
	I think my family, they were elites a long, long time ago.
	We've been in Canada for like 500 years, but the history...
	I'll tell you what, it is in the atmosphere, and it's going to be even more in the atmosphere when they start putting up these 5G transmitters everywhere.
	Part of it is surveillance, part of it is control.
	There's a physiological aspect that's going to be involved in this, but folks, you have to come to grips with the truth here.
	We've been gaslighted by the media and the government for far too long.
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