Danny Jones Podcast - #312 - CIA 'GRIM REAPER' Mercenary Hunting Terror Sleeper Cells in America | Dale Comstock
Aired: 2025-06-30
Duration: 04:07:10


=== Military Culture and Recruitment (05:06) ===

[00:00:07]  Can I call you Commander Comstock?
[00:00:08]  You call me whatever you want, just as long as you're looking at me.
[00:00:13]  That way I know you're talking to me.
[00:00:15]  Bro, I just got done listening to your podcast with Julian Dory, and it was fantastic.
[00:00:21]  Thank you.
[00:00:21]  Some of the stuff that you've been through and some of the stories that you were telling were just melting my brain.
[00:00:27]  So I'm glad to meet you.
[00:00:29]  I'm glad Julian hooked us up.
[00:00:30]  And I love your jacket.
[00:00:32]  That jacket is incredible.
[00:00:34]  That's one of the best jackets I've ever seen on this podcast.
[00:00:36]  On this podcast, 100%.
[00:00:37]  You take the cake.
[00:00:38]  All right.
[00:00:39]  So, for people that don't know who you are, can you basically just explain the synopsis of your story and how you got to where you are?
[00:00:47]  Yeah.
[00:00:48]  Sure.
[00:00:48]  How did you get into this whole world of military, special operations, and combat?
[00:00:52]  Yeah.
[00:00:53]  I grew up in military culture.
[00:00:55]  My dad was in the army.
[00:00:56]  And so, most of my childhood was spent in Germany during the 70s, you know, the Cold War with the U.S. Army.
[00:01:03]  My mother's German.
[00:01:04]  My family was there.
[00:01:04]  So, you know, At heart, I was a German growing up, but, and then eventually my dad moved to the United States and I retired in, actually retired out of Fort Huachuca, Arizona.
[00:01:15]  From there, he moved to Fremont, California, or we moved to Fremont, California, the Bay Area of San Francisco.
[00:01:20]  He got a job there.
[00:01:22]  And that was a, for a young man like myself at the time, 15, 16 years old, that was like a real culture shock, you know.
[00:01:31]  Coming from the military culture, it's so different, at least growing up for me, it was, than it is in the civilian world.
[00:01:37]  And so I had a little hard time adapting.
[00:01:39]  You know I hate to say it, but uh, you know, I don't know, maybe it's just something in my mind, but uh, I didn't do well um, outside the military life, I guess, and then so I couldn't wait to get back to it.
[00:01:52]  So I actually joined the military when I enlisted, when I was 17, and uh, I didn't tell my dad about it.
[00:01:57]  Of course I broke his heart when he found out, because he actually had plans for me to go to college.
[00:02:01]  You know, nobody in my family on either side had ever been to college and uh, I was going to be the first one.
[00:02:08]  So my dad, my father, thought so and uh, so I, I enlisted for the military.
[00:02:13]  Then I told him, I realized, gosh, I screwed up, right?
[00:02:15]  So I said, Dad, don't worry.
[00:02:17]  I'm going to get my college degree and I want to be like you, so to speak.
[00:02:20]  So I ended up joining the military in 1981.
[00:02:23]  I ended up in 82nd Airborne Division, an infantry company, and then ultimately into a long range reconnaissance platoon for my first four years in 82nd.
[00:02:34]  And then I came to this crossroad.
[00:02:35]  I'm like, man, do I want to stay in?
[00:02:37]  I want to get out.
[00:02:37]  So I was married, young wife, young daughter.
[00:02:42]  She's still six months old.
[00:02:44]  And I wasn't feeling challenged.
[00:02:45]  You know how old were you at the time?
[00:02:48]  Uh, on my on the end of my first enlistment, I was 22, right.
[00:02:51]  So I went in eight.
[00:02:52]  So I got in right at 18, 22 yeah, it started early um, but uh, I was at this point I wanted to get out, you know, just wasn't feeling challenged, you know, as an infantry guy digging foxholes and filling back up and sitting in a tree for a couple days cleaning my M16, just it wasn't very challenging right, and uh, so I said okay, you know what, I think i'm gonna get out.
[00:03:13]  So I had to call my mom and I said hey mommy, I'm thinking about getting out of the army.
[00:03:18]  Can I come home with my wife and daughter and kind of live with you for three months till I get on my feet?
[00:03:22]  Yeah.
[00:03:22]  You would think mom would say, of course, son.
[00:03:24]  My mom's in her stark German harsh accent was like, no, not no, but hell no.
[00:03:29]  And I'm like, damn, mom.
[00:03:30]  Okay, thanks.
[00:03:31]  My mom's very, very, she's got OCD, man.
[00:03:35]  She just, you know, her nest is her nest, you know?
[00:03:38]  What was your, at that age when you decided to go against your dad's wishes and join the military, what was your view of, Well, two questions.
[00:03:46]  Number one, what was your view of like military and war?
[00:03:49]  And like two, what was going on around the world at that point?
[00:03:53]  Were you paying attention to it?
[00:03:54]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:03:54]  Good question.
[00:03:56]  So what happened was we were just coming out of the Cold War, if you want to call it war, but, and I remember circa 19, let me get this right, 1980, I believe, also the Achilles Laurel incident happened where they, it was a terrorist took over the ship, the Achilles Laurel ship, and they actually threw, I believe it was an American in a wheelchair, threw him overboard and killed him.
[00:04:23]  Too close.
[00:04:24]  No, it's good.
[00:04:24]  I just want to put it down a little bit.
[00:04:27]  So, you know, I saw that and, you know, the world was in shock, you know, how dare they do that?
[00:04:32]  And that actually angered me as a young man, you know.
[00:04:34]  Wait, what was that again?
[00:04:36]  The incident was, the ship was called Achilles Laurel, right?
[00:04:39]  I think it was just a cruise liner, right?
[00:04:41]  And it was hijacked by terrorists.
[00:04:44]  Where?
[00:04:45]  Somewhere in the Middle East.
[00:04:46]  Okay.
[00:04:46]  Okay.
[00:04:47]  I can't remember exactly where, but they made the Mediterranean.
[00:04:50]  But I do remember Achilles Laurel.
[00:04:52]  I do remember they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard.
[00:04:55]  Oh, okay.
[00:04:56]  Killed him, right?
[00:04:57]  He was at least one of many casualties, I believe.
[00:04:59]  So that kind of angered me as a young man, you know.
[00:05:02]  And because growing up in the military, you know, as an American, you know, we're very patriotic.
[00:05:08]  And to me, that was like, that's BS, right?
[00:05:11]  How dare they do that to an American, right?

=== The Achilles Laurel Incident (04:33) ===

[00:05:13]  And so that really got me motivated to join the military.
[00:05:17]  That was like, you know, that was like a line they crossed.
[00:05:20]  They have no idea what they started, you know.
[00:05:23]  So that's what got me motivated to go in the military.
[00:05:26]  And then I remember I was going through TV Guide one day.
[00:05:31]  And, you know, in the middle, they always have these like two-page spreads, advertisements, right?
[00:05:35]  And there was an advertisement in this particular one for the Army.
[00:05:39]  It says, be all that you can be.
[00:05:40]  That was a slogan at the time, which is still my slogan, believe it or not.
[00:05:44]  And there was a picture of a ranger coming out of the jungle, camouflage, patrol cap, rappel rope, car 15.
[00:05:52]  He's sneaking out of the jungle.
[00:05:53]  And I saw that.
[00:05:54]  I go, that's it.
[00:05:55]  I'm joining the military.
[00:05:56]  That's it right there.
[00:05:57]  So that's what prompted me to go down and get recruited.
[00:06:02]  So I ended up in 82nd for a minute and then, you know, I was on the cusp of getting out.
[00:06:07]  My mom said, no, I really didn't have any options.
[00:06:10]  You know, like, what am I going to do?
[00:06:11]  I'm 22, no college education yet, got a wife and a kid.
[00:06:18]  And so, fortunately for me, I got a letter at the same time from the unit, Delta, and it said, you're eligible to apply to try out for Delta Force.
[00:06:30]  I have to clarify that because, Guys will go, oh yeah, Delta Force wanted me.
[00:06:33]  They sent me a letter, but I found a better job, you know, whatever, clean as shit or somewhere, whatever, right?
[00:06:38]  So, you know, I hear it all the time.
[00:06:40]  It cracks me up.
[00:06:41]  It's like, no, just because you got the letter doesn't mean they wanted you.
[00:06:44]  The letter means you're eligible to apply to go through the application process to see if you qualify to try out, right?
[00:06:50]  And so.
[00:06:51]  What do you have to do to be eligible?
[00:06:53]  So the criteria at that time, it's probably still the same or very close, was you had to be a minimum of 22.
[00:06:59]  You had to be at least a Bucksard in 85.
[00:07:02]  You had to have a GT score of a minimum 110, which is like an Army IQ test.
[00:07:06]  If you're 110 or above, you can do anything in the military.
[00:07:09]  No judicial action against you or anything, no punishment in the past, no UCMJ stuff.
[00:07:14]  So you've never been in trouble.
[00:07:16]  What else was there?
[00:07:17]  There's a couple other requirements.
[00:07:20]  So if you met all the basics, then what would happen if they said, okay, we're going to give you a chance, then you come to another formal application process where you do a physical fitness test.
[00:07:31]  You actually get a medical examination, pretty thorough one.
[00:07:35]  They do a background check on you.
[00:07:36]  There's quite a bit you do, psychological evaluations.
[00:07:40]  And then once you complete all that, they take your packet and then they say, good luck.
[00:07:44]  We'll let you know in 30 days if you make it or not, right?
[00:07:47]  If you get it selected.
[00:07:49]  So 30 days later, I got the letter and it said, congratulations.
[00:07:54]  You passed the application and now you're going to attend the formal assessment selection course, right?
[00:08:02]  It's a big deal.
[00:08:04]  To kind of give you perspective on why it's a big deal is they only run two selection courses a year.
[00:08:10]  So twice a year, at that time, they panned all the records in the U.S. Army.
[00:08:13]  Now they panned the records of all the military, everybody in the military, right?
[00:08:16]  Because believe it or not, the Army pool was too small to draw eligible candidates from.
[00:08:22]  Right, and actually, the military pool is still too small.
[00:08:25]  Okay, this is how hard it is to get in this program.
[00:08:28]  So, um, so in my class, the class I went through in October, um, there was a hundred, there's normally a hundred guys, hundred candidates, right?
[00:08:38]  Then they'll max out a hundred guys.
[00:08:40]  I had 110 in there, I don't know why.
[00:08:42]  Um, maybe I was mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I counted 110 heads in there, right?
[00:08:45]  So, we had 10 extra of the 110 that started the program at the end, six of us completed it.
[00:08:53]  We're the only one standing.
[00:08:54]  Of the six of us that completed it, three of us actually got selected after we went from the commander's board in psychological evaluation again.
[00:09:00]  So three out of 110 of us got picked up.
[00:09:03]  That happens twice a year.
[00:09:05]  So we had one class where one guy made it.
[00:09:08]  Think about that for a minute.
[00:09:09]  Think about that.
[00:09:10]  That's how tough it is, right?
[00:09:12]  The formal assessment selection course.
[00:09:15]  It's not like, you know, and people get mad when I say this stuff, especially the SEAL fans.
[00:09:20]  Listen, I don't have a problem with SEALs.
[00:09:21]  A lot of them are friends, you know.
[00:09:23]  I've trained and worked with them a lot downrange.
[00:09:27]  I'm just stating facts.
[00:09:28]  The fact is Delta Force selection is very unique in that you don't go through as a group.
[00:09:32]  You go through as an individual.
[00:09:34]  It's an individual effort, right?
[00:09:35]  So, you know, you go see Buds and Ranger School and all these other ones.
[00:09:39]  They're all running together and suffering together and screaming and crying together.
[00:09:44]  Delta Force, you go through by yourself, literally.

=== Individual Delta Force Selection (03:25) ===

[00:09:47]  The only time you see anybody else is in the morning or in the evening, right?
[00:09:52]  Outside of that, you know, in fact, they don't even call you by your name.
[00:09:57]  They just assign you a color and number.
[00:09:59]  Right.
[00:09:59]  So every day you're a different color number.
[00:10:00]  How do you know your color number?
[00:10:01]  Because you have to go to a whiteboard and it's got all the information on there every day, right?
[00:10:05]  It tells you where to be, when to be there.
[00:10:07]  Don't be late, light or out of uniform.
[00:10:08]  And there's your name and your color number for the day.
[00:10:11]  And that's what you'll be addressed at.
[00:10:14]  So they do that for a reason.
[00:10:17]  They don't socialize with you.
[00:10:19]  I say they, the cadre.
[00:10:22]  They don't socialize with you.
[00:10:23]  So they're always stone faced, no bullshit and, you know, shucking and jiving in the back.
[00:10:27]  We can see them.
[00:10:28]  They're very professional.
[00:10:30]  They're like almost like robots.
[00:10:32]  But it's part of the script.
[00:10:33]  It has to be that way.
[00:10:34]  What they're trying to do is make every person, they're putting pressure, they're making you put pressure on yourself, right?
[00:10:41]  Because there are some guys out there that, you know, they get a little nervous or uncomfortable and they look at somebody else to see how they're acting.
[00:10:49]  Oh, they're kind of looking, they're looking kind of happy and giddy and smiling.
[00:10:51]  Must be okay, right?
[00:10:52]  So, especially from the instructors.
[00:10:54]  Sure.
[00:10:54]  So, the idea is you're basically isolated in this course with other people, but nobody's addressing you by your name.
[00:11:03]  There's no personal interaction.
[00:11:05]  You're told what to do, very limited, it's very limited information.
[00:11:09]  You're given a task and then you're not told what the standard is and we have so well, how much time do I have?
[00:11:15]  Do the best you can, but do the best you can.
[00:11:18]  But have a good one, but do the best you can, that's all you will get out of them.
[00:11:21]  Wow, that's all you'll get out of them.
[00:11:22]  It's like hello, is anybody in there right?
[00:11:25]  It's funny?
[00:11:25]  Right, but it's designed that way, because so what does do the best you can mean?
[00:11:31]  It means do the best you can.
[00:11:33]  So if you really want to be there, you're going to do the best you can, Right?
[00:11:36]  So you push yourself every day, like literally every day, you push yourself to the extreme.
[00:11:42]  And eventually, guess what's going to happen?
[00:11:44]  Your body's going to break down.
[00:11:46]  And there's nothing worse than being alone in the woods on a farm field and your body's broken down and you're standing there demoralized.
[00:11:53]  You can't push yourself nothing anymore.
[00:11:56]  And you're like, what am I doing here?
[00:11:57]  Why am I putting myself through this?
[00:11:59]  You start questioning yourself.
[00:12:00]  And that's the whole point, right?
[00:12:02]  Solitude.
[00:12:03]  Yeah.
[00:12:03]  And so what they're looking for is they have a saying.
[00:12:07]  There's a lot of guys that will, you know, just they're just throwing a towel.
[00:12:11]  So that's it for me, right?
[00:12:11]  So they call it Victor whiskey or voluntary withdrawal, VW, right?
[00:12:15]  And a candidate will go, sorry, I'd like to have missed.
[00:12:17]  Victor whiskey and they'll go, okay, put your clothes, your coat on, jacket, get dry, get in the truck, we'll take you back.
[00:12:21]  They take you to the rear, put you in the shower, feed you, you're nice and warm and comfortable.
[00:12:26]  Then they give you an out briefing with the commander.
[00:12:29]  And what ends up usually happening is the commander goes, hey, man, thanks for coming out.
[00:12:33]  Thanks for trying.
[00:12:34]  At least you got the guts to try, blah, blah, blah.
[00:12:37]  And usually the candidate are feeling pretty good.
[00:12:38]  His stomach's full.
[00:12:39]  He goes, hey, sir, you mind if I try again?
[00:12:41]  Can I come back?
[00:12:42]  And the answer every time, without exception, is no.
[00:12:47]  You can have a change of mind, but you cannot have a change of heart.
[00:12:50]  You will never get to come to this program again because you don't have the heart.
[00:12:54]  You changed your mind, but you didn't have the heart.
[00:12:56]  And that's what they're doing.
[00:12:57]  They're looking for your mind just to shit the bed out there and your heart to shit the bed.
[00:13:01]  And they want to see which one's going to take, keep you going, right?
[00:13:04]  So a lot of people mentally start having these issues, you know, and they want to quit.
[00:13:10]  They, you know, it becomes very emotional, you know, nobody's talking to me.

=== Mental Resilience Under Pressure (02:47) ===

[00:13:13]  Nobody's calling me by my name.
[00:13:15]  And it sucks.
[00:13:16]  It's cold.
[00:13:16]  It's wet, you know, and I'm tired and everything hurts.
[00:13:20]  What they're looking for is the guy that's going, you know what?
[00:13:22]  My body's broken.
[00:13:23]  but I'm going to push it anyways.
[00:13:24]  I'm going to make it no matter what.
[00:13:26]  And that's what they're looking for.
[00:13:28]  And there's guys that have gone through that program that, look, I've heard some guys out there on the podcast, some very famous guys, you know, I'm not going to mention their names, that went through Delta Force, you know, actually one of them kind of lied, but that's neither here nor there right now.
[00:13:44]  And he didn't make it.
[00:13:46]  And he said he didn't make it because he hurt his ankle.
[00:13:48]  He had an owie.
[00:13:49]  And so they medically withdrew him and they said, hey, you did a good job.
[00:13:51]  You know, you can come back.
[00:13:52]  That's what they tell everybody, right?
[00:13:53]  They medically would try you.
[00:13:54]  Yeah.
[00:13:54]  So he felt good about, hey, see, they wanted me back.
[00:13:56]  No, everybody gets to come back if they're medically withdrawn.
[00:14:00]  But he used that as, you know, and so he played that up.
[00:14:04]  And I know a lot of guys that play that kind of stuff up.
[00:14:06]  But here's the thing.
[00:14:07]  Here's the guys that make it.
[00:14:08]  One of my teammates, when he went through, he broke both tibias and didn't tell anybody.
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[00:15:55]  He duct tapes himself together, right?
[00:15:57]  Splints himself, duct tapes himself together, and makes it through the course of two broken legs.

=== Sponsorship and Broken Legs (15:42) ===

[00:16:01]  Didn't tell anybody about it because he wanted to get medically withdrawn, right?
[00:16:05]  Right, right.
[00:16:06]  He makes it through the course.
[00:16:07]  And at the end, you know, when he's in the rear, you know, he has to go, we all have to do our medical evaluations, you know, make sure we're okay now.
[00:16:15]  And he's like, hey, can you check the wheels?
[00:16:17]  I think I got a couple of flat tires, right?
[00:16:19]  And like, geez, broke both legs, right?
[00:16:21]  So that was, it was incredulous.
[00:16:24]  And so they splinted him up, cast him up, and then he still sat in front of the commander's board.
[00:16:30]  And they're like, that's the kind of guy we want right there.
[00:16:32]  Guy's got two broken legs and still made it through the course, you know?
[00:16:37]  It meant he had to walk on his hands.
[00:16:38]  He made it.
[00:16:39]  So they actually sent him to, I think, San Antonio, Texas, to a veterinarian.
[00:16:45]  A veterinarian?
[00:16:46]  Yeah, because this guy was like an expert at inserting, I guess, steel rods into like a horse's leg, you know?
[00:16:53]  And so they took him, they sent him there, right?
[00:16:56]  He's the expert.
[00:16:56]  So they actually put rods in this guy's legs.
[00:16:58]  He came back a year later and one of the best operators we had.
[00:17:02]  Oh, no doubt about it.
[00:17:03]  Christ.
[00:17:03]  Yeah.
[00:17:05]  But a very interesting, you know, program.
[00:17:08]  Like I said, it's very difficult.
[00:17:11]  You know, the chance that, honestly, I should have never made it.
[00:17:16]  Statistically, I had no chance.
[00:17:17]  You know, I was actually surprised I got selected to even come to try out.
[00:17:21]  But when I looked at the guys that do make it, you know, they were Green Berets, they were Rangers, they were older.
[00:17:29]  The average age was like 33 years old, you know.
[00:17:32]  Really?
[00:17:32]  Yeah.
[00:17:32]  The average age was 33.
[00:17:33]  So guys with experience, right?
[00:17:35]  Because a job like that takes experience.
[00:17:37]  I'm just, I'm still wet behind the ears, you know, and I don't know Jack other than how to fill a foxhole.
[00:17:44]  And so I really didn't have the military experience.
[00:17:48]  I didn't have what it took.
[00:17:49]  I felt.
[00:17:50]  Thought to make it, but that's not what they're looking for.
[00:17:53]  Um, anybody can come through the program.
[00:17:56]  They don't care what your mos is.
[00:17:57]  You could.
[00:17:58]  You could be a fry cook, you know, and you'd be a badass fry cook.
[00:18:02]  Um, so mos immaterial.
[00:18:05]  What they're looking at is the man they're looking at and really more more importantly, what they're looking at is not and i'll use, i'm going to quote a guy named Pat Savage.
[00:18:13]  He was one of the operators on golf team.
[00:18:16]  Um, he said, they're not.
[00:18:17]  We're not looking for the best man, we're looking for the right man.
[00:18:19]  I was like, man, that's.
[00:18:20]  That's absolutely right, because there's some studs that can.
[00:18:23]  They can muscle through that selection course, but they ain't got it up here, right?
[00:18:28]  So, a lot of guys just, you know, they don't make it.
[00:18:31]  It's because it's more than just physical, it's also mental.
[00:18:34]  And why is it that way?
[00:18:35]  Because when you're a Delta operator, you're expected to go out and operate unilaterally by yourself.
[00:18:40]  For example, I might be tasked to go brief the President of the United States or some admiral on an aircraft carrier, right?
[00:18:45]  And as an E5 or E6, at 22, 23 years old, that's what I might be required to do.
[00:18:51]  And so, they need to know that if they sent me, I'm not going to fall on my face and embarrass the army and the unit.
[00:18:59]  We did a lot of singleton operations.
[00:19:01]  So when we use the word operator, so I'm going to clarify this.
[00:19:05]  This is going to piss people off again, too, right?
[00:19:07]  So you have CIA operatives.
[00:19:12]  Now, why are Delta Force operators called operators, right?
[00:19:16]  Because operators are selected from all MOSs in the military.
[00:19:20]  So they show up.
[00:19:22]  And so, for example, when I showed up, I was what's called 11 Bravo, infantry guy, right?
[00:19:26]  11B was my MOS designator.
[00:19:27]  Okay.
[00:19:27]  All right.
[00:19:28]  So when it comes time for my promotion, guess what?
[00:19:31]  Dale's got to compete against the other 11 Bravos in the military, right?
[00:19:35]  But I'm not doing the same job as them.
[00:19:36]  They're definitely not doing my job, right?
[00:19:38]  So, how do I get graded fairly is the issue, right?
[00:19:43]  And so, what they realized was, you know, I'm no longer an infantry guy.
[00:19:48]  I'm an operator.
[00:19:48]  Why am I an operator?
[00:19:49]  Because I'm actually going to be doing three different types of jobs.
[00:19:52]  One, I have to be able to operate as a soldier, two, operate as a government agent, and three, operate as a civilian.
[00:20:00]  So, I can actually wear different guises and carry different credentials depending on what the job is, right?
[00:20:06]  So, if you're going to rate me, how do you rate me as a civilian, as a government agent?
[00:20:10]  You know agent whatever, or as a soldier, right.
[00:20:13]  So that's why we use the word operator, because you kind of span different, different areas, and so the.
[00:20:19]  The hilarious part is, somehow everybody decided that that was such a cool name that everybody in the military calls themselves an operator.
[00:20:27]  I've even heard cops call themselves operators.
[00:20:29]  Now it's like what?
[00:20:30]  Yeah, everybody wants to be an operator, but uh right right, you know they don't want to do.
[00:20:33]  The long walk is what we call it.
[00:20:34]  What's the long walk is?
[00:20:35]  The is the end of the selection course.
[00:20:37]  It's a very long, it's a 40 mile.
[00:20:39]  40 mile walk is what it is.
[00:20:41]  Another thing I wanted to ask you is, uh, Can you give me, like the fifth grade version of what the difference is between a Delta Force and ground branch?
[00:20:51]  Yeah, big difference.
[00:20:53]  So Delta Force is a counterterrorist unit, right?
[00:20:56]  Counterterrorist unit.
[00:20:57]  Yeah, however, you know, they're specialized in many areas.
[00:21:00]  Okay.
[00:21:02]  Scuba operations, water operations, mountain operations, mobility operations, airborne operations, the gamut, right?
[00:21:07]  They've got to be good at all those things.
[00:21:11]  CIA ground branch is a CIA.
[00:21:15]  Capability and what I mean, they can do lots of things, but normally don't form up in a team, they don't do counterterrorism.
[00:21:22]  Um, they're not going to do mountaineering operations.
[00:21:24]  So, are you CIA paramilitary?
[00:21:26]  Exactly, right?
[00:21:27]  Okay, so they're going to go out and do whatever it takes to support the intelligence collection effort, got it right.
[00:21:32]  And so, that's why a lot of times ground branch guys or paramilitary guys are shooters because when you go out to collect intelligence from somebody, there's usually a big gunfight, right?
[00:21:42]  Right, right, right.
[00:21:44]  But, um, yeah, so you know, left picking up where I left off, you know.
[00:21:48]  I tried out for the unit.
[00:21:49]  I made it, obviously.
[00:21:51]  Then while I was in the unit, I went to the Special Forces qualification course, became a Green Beret.
[00:21:56]  Why?
[00:21:56]  So now I'm competing at another level for promotions and things like that, plus added skill sets.
[00:22:02]  It was all beneficial.
[00:22:03]  So I got to go there, came back, and then ultimately I ended up going to Special Forces in a third Special Forces group.
[00:22:11]  I was an A-team sergeant there for a while, and then I retired out of the third group.
[00:22:15]  And then I retired actually before 9-11, and then I get you know, the 9-11 happens and then next thing you know, I get recruited by the government, OGA, to come in and continue doing what I did in the military, but with one or two other guys and that intelligence capability, so to speak.
[00:22:33]  So I did come back and I spent almost 10 years doing that job.
[00:22:39]  And concurrently, I was running several companies.
[00:22:41]  So I built a couple of companies, actually one before 9-11 and then a couple after 9-11.
[00:22:45]  And so I was in parallel running companies.
[00:22:47]  What kind of company?
[00:22:48]  What do you mean companies?
[00:22:49]  Well, you're an entrepreneur.
[00:22:51]  Yeah.
[00:22:51]  Yeah.
[00:22:52]  What made you want to start a company?
[00:22:53]  What kind of companies are we talking about?
[00:22:54]  Well, the first one I started was a company called Global Security Consultants.
[00:22:58]  And what we did was we actually got into, I say we, I had a business partner.
[00:23:05]  We actually got into the nuclear energy sector, right?
[00:23:07]  And we started securing all the nuclear power plants in the United States.
[00:23:10]  What?
[00:23:10]  Yeah.
[00:23:11]  In fact, at the time when 9-11 happened, you could just walk in any nuclear power plant and just, it would have been disastrous.
[00:23:18]  There was no security, right?
[00:23:20]  So now, you know, they're jumping through their ass going, we need to do something, right?
[00:23:24]  NRCs tell them, you better.
[00:23:26]  Plus it up right and so we had one competitor How did you so first of all, how did you come up with the idea to do that?
[00:23:32]  Well, so So what happened we I know I wanted to start a security company, right?
[00:23:36]  Okay before 9-11.
[00:23:37]  Okay.
[00:23:38]  Right.
[00:23:38]  And the reason why is because I was thinking about, okay, when I get out, what am I going to do?
[00:23:42]  You know, who needs the skills of a Green Beret, Delta guy, you know, shooting people?
[00:23:47]  And I'm trying to figure out what can I do to, and I want to be my own entrepreneur, my own boss, right?
[00:23:54]  I didn't want to work for anybody.
[00:23:55]  So I decided, you know, I'm going to start a security company.
[00:23:57]  And then I brought my business partner on board.
[00:23:59]  He was actually one of my younger mentor students.
[00:24:01]  And then he's like, hey, man, my dad used to work in the nuclear sector.
[00:24:05]  You know, maybe we can get in there.
[00:24:06]  So we started digging into it.
[00:24:09]  Learning about it, and we realized, man, we could blow this up, man, easy.
[00:24:14]  Not literally, but figuratively, right?
[00:24:16]  So that's how we got into it.
[00:24:18]  And then we find out there's only one competitor.
[00:24:21]  It's actually one dude, a civilian, and a SEAL.
[00:24:24]  And so they put, well, not the SEAL, but the other guy put his foot in his mouth because when 9 11 happened, CNN interviewed him the next day, and he got on CNN and said, ah, you know, all the security at nuclear power plants, you know, their grandmothers and school teachers and used.
[00:24:40]  Car salesman carrying guns.
[00:24:41]  Oh my God, that was the wrong thing to say, man.
[00:24:44]  He became PG after that.
[00:24:46]  And so I got a call from Exelon Nuclear Energy up in Chicago, and they're like, hey, can you and your partner come up here, right?
[00:24:55]  And the reason they knew of us, because we had gone to an NRC conference as vendors for the first time, right?
[00:25:00]  And nobody wanted to talk to us.
[00:25:01]  They were scared of these two big dudes with suits on, right?
[00:25:04]  And we're trying to attract them to the table, and they wouldn't come over.
[00:25:06]  They're all, you know, we'd lay little shiny things out, and they'd come over and they would catch them, hey, you know, in a business card, you know.
[00:25:12]  So, you know, we warmed up to them eventually, and that's how they remembered us.
[00:25:16]  So he calls to Chicago and they told us what happened.
[00:25:18]  We knew about 9-11.
[00:25:19]  They go, you guys want his contract?
[00:25:21]  I was like, yeah.
[00:25:23]  Right.
[00:25:23]  So, yeah, they had 11 nuclear power plants and 17 reactors.
[00:25:28]  Wow.
[00:25:28]  And just like that, we got them, right?
[00:25:30]  We became their primary consultants, including Three Mile Island.
[00:25:33]  That was actually my first job, Three Mile Island.
[00:25:35]  Really?
[00:25:36]  And so we ended up, we probably serviced about 42 of the nuclear power plants.
[00:25:43]  The other guy went out of business.
[00:25:45]  We just outperformed him.
[00:25:46]  And he just, So I had no competitors.
[00:25:49]  So what do you do to secure a nuclear power plant?
[00:25:52]  There's a lot.
[00:25:54]  So, for example, the NRC, they dictate what a nuclear energy power plant has to protect itself from, right?
[00:26:03]  So the NRC, with the military, the Army particularly, one of the special forces team, they decide what is what they call a design basis threat, right?
[00:26:13]  So they have to look at a nuclear power plant and go, okay, what should a nuclear power plant be prepared to protect?
[00:26:19]  most extreme scenario that's real, that's reasonable, right?
[00:26:23]  So look, if I brought in 100 Al Qaeda guys, you're done, right?
[00:26:27]  That's not reasonable.
[00:26:28]  But if I brought in a very small amount of dudes, right, very specialized, I had an insider, for example, guy working inside the plant, which by the way has happened with Al Qaeda.
[00:26:36]  Yeah.
[00:26:38]  And so I've got an insider, I've got a small team on the outside, and then they dictate what kind of weapons they can have and capabilities, including explosives, how much, there's a limit to everything, right?
[00:26:49]  That's why they call it a design-based threat.
[00:26:51]  So it's classified.
[00:26:53]  I mean, I know what it is.
[00:26:54]  It may have changed since then, but I knew what it was.
[00:26:57]  And so then what happens is a nuclear power plant has to be able to defend itself from that type of enemy capability, right?
[00:27:05]  And so there's nothing off the table.
[00:27:08]  Like, for example, an insider.
[00:27:10]  You might have an insider that at HR goes up and shoots two security guards in the back of the head.
[00:27:14]  You got a problem.
[00:27:15]  Because why?
[00:27:17]  If you think about it, nuclear power plants, for example, they might have, I don't know, just say 20 or 30.
[00:27:23]  Security guards working at one time, right?
[00:27:26]  That's one shift.
[00:27:26]  Usually they have four shifts, okay, rotating shifts.
[00:27:29]  So you got 30 dudes on shift.
[00:27:33]  And really, that's the bare minimum.
[00:27:35]  And so what happens is every guy's got a sector of responsibility and different elevations in the facility, right?
[00:27:42]  And if there's a threat, for example, let's just say there's a two-pronged attack with an insider, right?
[00:27:48]  Now we're getting hit by three sides, literally.
[00:27:50]  And if I lose one security guard, we can still compensate, right?
[00:27:54]  We can kind of cover that dead space.
[00:27:55]  But we start losing two or three, that's a problem because you can't cover that same.
[00:27:59]  And why do they use the bare numbers?
[00:28:01]  Money, right?
[00:28:02]  Cost money to hire these guys.
[00:28:05]  pay the salaries, everything that goes along with it, right?
[00:28:07]  So it always comes down to budget.
[00:28:10]  And so otherwise, if there was an unlimited budget, you know, nuclear power plants could harden themselves to the point where nobody could get into it, but they can't.
[00:28:17]  It's a business.
[00:28:18]  In fact, when I, the first time I did a consulting job was Three Mile Island.
[00:28:23]  And I spent 10 days there with my partner.
[00:28:27]  And we did the whole walk down.
[00:28:28]  We did everything, right?
[00:28:29]  And then we did the analysis.
[00:28:31]  And then we wrote an after action report.
[00:28:33]  And then we finally went in to render the report on the last day to the security manager.
[00:28:37]  And relevant staff that you know were privy to hear this and, I remember, got a little cocky, you know, and it was my first, it was our first job, right?
[00:28:46]  We thought we know what we were doing.
[00:28:47]  We're the experts here.
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[00:28:53]  Back to the show and um, we're sitting across the table and the security manager's name was Mike.
[00:28:57]  He's a very good friend of mine today.
[00:28:59]  He's like, all right well fellows, let me have it.
[00:29:01]  What do?
[00:29:01]  We got here and I was like so.
[00:29:02]  I was like, well Mike, you know I don't know what you're thinking, but you know, where's your machine guns over here, where's your mortar tubes over here?
[00:29:09]  I'm just, and I'm just dressing him down, right?
[00:29:12]  And he's like looking at me, right?
[00:29:13]  I'm kind of exaggerating a little bit, but finally he stops.
[00:29:17]  He goes, listen, guys, he goes, I knew you, I know you're new to this business.
[00:29:21]  He goes, if you want to stay in the business, remember this.
[00:29:23]  He goes, we're in the business of making energy, not security, right?
[00:29:27]  He goes, security is an overhead.
[00:29:29]  He goes, we want the mostest for the leastest, right?
[00:29:31]  And I was like, God, I must have missed that in my master's degree, right?
[00:29:34]  That part was super essential, right?
[00:29:37]  And he straightened us out, and I realized that's a good lesson learned.
[00:29:42]  And so, I always, anytime I go into kind of a security consulting job, I always remember their bottom line, right?
[00:29:47]  And I try to give them the mostest for the leastest.
[00:29:50]  So, we got all that sorted out.
[00:29:53]  We did all the security at Three Mile Island.
[00:29:55]  Man, that was just a self-licking ice cream for a long time.
[00:29:58]  And then we went to all the other nuclear power plants and did the same thing, man.
[00:30:02]  We did all kinds of stuff.
[00:30:03]  I mean, we looked at physical security.
[00:30:06]  We looked at, you know, here's another thing about nuclear power plants.
[00:30:12]  Everything's a function of time.
[00:30:13]  Right, there's their timelines.
[00:30:15]  For example, remember I mentioned you lose a security guard right, somebody's got to cover his space.
[00:30:20]  So how long does it take for the security guard from over here to run over here and cover this guy's space?
[00:30:25]  Right, it might take 10 seconds.
[00:30:27]  Right, and we do all.
[00:30:28]  We run this stuff with equipment on and we map it out on all kinds of you know, 3d drawings and renderings and things like that, and then we go.
[00:30:34]  Well, you know, maybe we got a guy over here just down.
[00:30:37]  He's 40 seconds away and he's the first guy taken out, maybe by a confederate um, And so I got to get a guy over here to over here.
[00:30:44]  It's going to take him 40 seconds to spin up and move over here.
[00:30:47]  Well, guess what?
[00:30:48]  It might take the bad guys 30 seconds to get in from the outside, right?
[00:30:54]  So who's winning?
[00:30:55]  They're winning, right?
[00:30:56]  Because once they get through the doors, we got another problem.
[00:30:59]  Now they're inside the wire, so to speak.
[00:31:01]  So what I started doing was selling nuclear power plants time.
[00:31:04]  I said, listen, you want to delay the guys on the perimeter?
[00:31:07]  You want to slow them down coming in?
[00:31:09]  I said, I can do that.
[00:31:10]  How?
[00:31:11]  I'll build, I'll actually, I've actually built and designed, Various types of barriers and fences that it would take the bad guys a long time to get through with explosives, mechanical breaching, manual breaching, ballistic breaching, all the different types of explosives, car bombs, VIBIDs.
[00:31:29]  As long as it's inside the DBT, Zion Bases Threat, I would use that.
[00:31:34]  And then what I would do is I'd go build a mock-up of it, right, out in Mammoth Lakes, California.
[00:31:41]  And I would actually test my theory, right?

=== Nuclear Reactor Safety Concerns (04:35) ===

[00:31:44]  And I knew it would work.
[00:31:45]  And what I would throw at these fences and these barriers was every possible explosive or configuration of explosive I thought the bad guys could come up with, right?
[00:31:55]  And I tried everything, right?
[00:31:57]  This was before recreational drones.
[00:31:59]  Yeah much yeah, a lot longer than that right, um.
[00:32:03]  And so what we started doing then was we recorded we, we collect the data and then we provide an ar to the client and go, look, we can guarantee at least this many seconds.
[00:32:13]  That's above and above, way above, what you have now right, and so i'm buying you time it gives you.
[00:32:17]  So now you can not sweat your security response time so much, because you got a little bit of breathing room right, and so that helps them ultimately with their budget, because you don't have to hire more guys right, so they laid out some money for my testing, oh yeah, and then Then there's the installation, right?
[00:32:32]  So then they go out and they hire a, you know, some type of a metal fencing company or whatever, right?
[00:32:38]  And they always to the lowest bidder, right?
[00:32:40]  They have to do all, oh, it's got to be union, right?
[00:32:42]  All that crap.
[00:32:44]  And then they show up and then I got to show up and I got to make sure they build it to my specification.
[00:32:49]  So I got to provide oversight.
[00:32:51]  They got to do all kinds of trainings and put PPE on because we use razor tape and stuff like that.
[00:32:56]  So, yeah, you get pretty cut up pretty good.
[00:32:59]  So, you know, I get paid again, you know, one, for being there and two, I get paid on the whole.
[00:33:03]  Project and you know, of course, the testing.
[00:33:05]  So we started doing a lot of that as well.
[00:33:07]  Um, it was a very interesting job, it was very good.
[00:33:10]  We we, we did really well, so much so that G4S Whacking HUT actually bought my company three years later.
[00:33:16]  Whacking HUT yeah no, and i'll tell you why.
[00:33:19]  They bought us because we're kicking their ass.
[00:33:21]  Right, they need to get rid of the competition.
[00:33:24]  Um, wow and so, and actually when we went into the business, we went in with that in mind.
[00:33:30]  It's like, you know, let's build it, make it really sexy and then sell it, because we thought yeah this, this 9-11 thing ain't gonna last forever.
[00:33:37]  Eventually everybody's gonna go back to the old days, get lackadaisical again.
[00:33:41]  Yeah well, unfortunately that didn't happen.
[00:33:43]  Well, fortunately it did happen.
[00:33:44]  But um well, that's a scary thing.
[00:33:46]  Nuclear nuclear power plants uh, are one of the most vulnerable in pieces of infrastructure in the?
[00:33:53]  U.s.
[00:33:54]  Like if there wasn't, if there was a, a thermonuclear war that happened, where we exchanged intercontinental ballistic missiles, the number one target of the foreign country attacking us Would be our number one, would be our ICBM silos, and number two would be our nuclear power Plants.
[00:34:12]  Because if they can hit a nuclear power plant with a nuke, you're it's like quadruple the damage that it would be with just a regular nuke.
[00:34:19]  That's right.
[00:34:19]  So, like, you have to worry about that, and then you have to worry about in today's day and age these drones, like drone.
[00:34:26]  Like, just the other day, we heard about this crazy uh drone swarm in Russia, right?
[00:34:30]  That took out one of their nuclear planes or something like that.
[00:34:32]  Yeah, so like, I can't imagine the level of security you would have to have nowadays for a nuclear power plant.
[00:34:38]  And also, if I owned a nuclear power plant, I would probably try to be getting some money from the government to secure it.
[00:34:43]  Because if you want to protect America, you've got to protect the nuclear power plants.
[00:34:47]  Yeah.
[00:34:47]  At the time, they didn't subsidize.
[00:34:49]  I don't know about today.
[00:34:50]  But NRC did provide the government oversight and told them what to do.
[00:34:54]  I came as a consultant, represented the nuclear power plants.
[00:34:57]  They brought in some special forces teams to actually try to penetrate, which is a lot of fun because I knew the guys were going to try to penetrate, right?
[00:35:04]  So, you know, we made it reasonable.
[00:35:07]  It was a really good job.
[00:35:08]  I learned a lot, made a lot of money.
[00:35:11]  did something worthwhile for America.
[00:35:14]  And now I would say today it's very hard to get into.
[00:35:17]  You're going to have a hard time breaching a nuclear power plant.
[00:35:19]  It's just not going to happen.
[00:35:20]  You can fly an airplane to it.
[00:35:21]  It's not going to happen.
[00:35:22]  Nothing's going to happen.
[00:35:23]  If you fly an airplane into it, nothing will happen?
[00:35:26]  No.
[00:35:26]  They're built to withstand, I think, at least a 737.
[00:35:31]  What?
[00:35:31]  Yeah, coming at full speed.
[00:35:33]  Now, the cooling towers you see, you can take those down.
[00:35:36]  Nothing's going to happen.
[00:35:36]  That's just a cooling tower.
[00:35:38]  But what you want to protect is the building with the reactors in it, right?
[00:35:43]  So the power block is what we call it.
[00:35:45]  It's a big building.
[00:35:46]  It's got turbines in it, generators.
[00:35:47]  It's got the nuclear reactors in it.
[00:35:50]  But even those are pretty heavy duty, man.
[00:35:54]  I don't think you're going to hit a power plant.
[00:35:56]  Nuclear power plant and melt it down with an airplane.
[00:35:59]  It's going to have to be something more, probably something like an insider pushing buttons and pulling levers and stuff, you know, and shooting people from the inside.
[00:36:09]  It's going to take something more like that.
[00:36:10]  But even that, there's actually backups to it.
[00:36:12]  So, you know, you have your main control room and then you always have a secondary control room somewhere else, right?

=== Power Plant Ambush Tactics (07:20) ===

[00:36:20]  So if one gets taken, you got another one to run to.
[00:36:23]  Now both of them get taken.
[00:36:24]  Now you got drama, right?
[00:36:25]  So, But it's a lot of fun and I did well in that business.
[00:36:29]  I turned around, started another company called Risk Control Institute.
[00:36:35]  But what happened was they didn't make me sign and non-compete, right?
[00:36:39]  There's another aspect to the story.
[00:36:41]  So I just turned around, reincorporated, built another company doing the same thing called Risk Control Institute, right?
[00:36:46]  And so they really didn't get rid of me.
[00:36:49]  And then I turned around, sold that company to another company called Intrepid in 2011.
[00:36:54]  And concurrently, I was working for the Alphabet company.
[00:36:59]  And that's, yeah, I was up to 10 years at this point, and I've spent a lot of time downrange.
[00:37:04]  Um, talking about CIA, I said OGA, OGA, okay, I didn't say it, you said that's right, that's right, OGA, ladies and gentlemen, not CIA.
[00:37:16]  Um, so, anyways, um, but yeah, so I got to a point, you know, I was gone a lot, like a lot, like none went out of the year for 10 years.
[00:37:25]  Um, it's probably went divorced so many times, but uh, um.
[00:37:30]  Finally, I just had enough.
[00:37:31]  In fact, I made the decision one night.
[00:37:35]  That's what I call my final ambush.
[00:37:36]  I got ambushed pretty bad one night, and I thought, man, if I get out of this one, this is it.
[00:37:41]  Because, you know, I was like getting 40, I was 47, 48 at the time, married, kids.
[00:37:47]  You got ambushed by who?
[00:37:48]  Where?
[00:37:49]  Taliban.
[00:37:50]  Yeah, Afghanistan.
[00:37:51]  Oh, shit.
[00:37:52]  Yeah, I've been ambushed a lot.
[00:37:53]  But the final, this was the one.
[00:37:54]  This was the final ambush?
[00:37:55]  Yeah, the reason this was the final for me was, you know, usually what happens is you drive along, you move along, you get ambushed, right?
[00:38:03]  And then you either fight back or you run away.
[00:38:05]  And so in this scenario, we actually got boxed in.
[00:38:11]  We were on a road that was along the very deep and a very fast-moving river.
[00:38:18]  And then on the other side was nothing but mountains.
[00:38:21]  And we had one road that paralleled the river, running south to north, north to south.
[00:38:27]  And there was about a seven-kilometer stretch that the Taliban owned, right?
[00:38:31]  And, I mean, they were hitting logistics trucks all the time.
[00:38:36]  burned out Hulks everywhere.
[00:38:38]  But anyways, we had to go through there and we had to do a link up with another one of our elements coming from south to north.
[00:38:44]  Well, they were running late and we ended up stopping kind of at a halfway point and we were literally sitting on the X for the Taliban.
[00:38:52]  And they're on the radios.
[00:38:53]  We could hear them because we got our interpreters on the radios listening to the chatter.
[00:38:58]  And so they had set up two IEDs and two ambush sites on both ends of the convoy.
[00:39:03]  We had 23 vehicles.
[00:39:06]  And it boxed us in.
[00:39:07]  And so we could hear what they're strategizing.
[00:39:10]  We could hear the commander talking to his guys, what they're going to do.
[00:39:13]  Actually, what they were going to do is run between the vehicles.
[00:39:16]  So we're in a crossfire.
[00:39:18]  And they already selected the vehicles they wanted to take because they wanted to grab all the guns off of it and stuff.
[00:39:23]  So they're pretty good at that kind of stuff.
[00:39:26]  And so we're stuck in this site.
[00:39:30]  We had already split an element off.
[00:39:32]  About 10 vehicles had gone further south to meet this other element.
[00:39:36]  On the way back, they got ambushed, took casualties, and they made it back.
[00:39:41]  We started doing our triage and giving medical aid and things like that.
[00:39:46]  And then we realized, okay, we got a choice, guys.
[00:39:47]  We either drive south or north, but either way, we're going through ambush, right?
[00:39:50]  So we're going to be fighting out of this one, which is crazy, right?
[00:39:54]  But you usually don't drive into an ambush deliberately to get out of it, right?
[00:39:58]  But we had no choice at this point.
[00:39:59]  So we're like, all right, we're going to turn the vehicles around, face them north.
[00:40:03]  We had basically 23 Toyota Hilux pickup trucks.
[00:40:07]  Some of them were up armored, you know, but most of them were thin skinned.
[00:40:12]  And we had, you know, each vehicle had about five dudes on it, guys on the back with heavy machine guns.
[00:40:19]  So 23 guys, I mean, 23 vehicles, and we were spread out about 50 meters per vehicle.
[00:40:23]  So we're, you know, we're doing a little over a kilometer, over a half a mile.
[00:40:28]  Three quarters of a mile spread out.
[00:40:30]  And the road was a really bad road.
[00:40:34]  It was just bumpy, dirt road, rocks.
[00:40:37]  About max speed you could attain was about five miles an hour.
[00:40:40]  It was just a really rough road, right?
[00:40:42]  It's not like the highway.
[00:40:44]  And so we get the vehicles turned around.
[00:40:46]  We had already called for air support.
[00:40:48]  Only thing we could get was one Apache H6.
[00:40:52]  And he had already expended all his ordnance supporting the element that was in contact already downrange from us.
[00:40:59]  And so they had to.
[00:41:00]  He called bingo, which means he's out of ammo, right?
[00:41:02]  And had to go down further south, refuel, refit.
[00:41:06]  And then we're waiting for him to come back and escort us going back north.
[00:41:09]  And what we're going to have him do is strafe the road in front of us and just start clearing the sides of the road.
[00:41:14]  And then we're just going to start beating feet up the road.
[00:41:18]  But what's funny was the Taliban commander was telling his guys to sit fast.
[00:41:22]  He goes, and he knew what we're doing.
[00:41:24]  He goes, they're waiting on the helicopter to come back.
[00:41:26]  They already knew all this stuff, right?
[00:41:28]  And normally when they ambush you, it's a long distance ambush.
[00:41:31]  They, you know, 50, 200 meters.
[00:41:33]  250 meters, 300 meters from afar, usually plunging fire.
[00:41:37]  In this case, they were right on top of us, like within 50 meters.
[00:41:41]  And that was their plan was as soon as a helicopter comes in, get right on the road because he's not going to strafe the road with the vehicles there, right?
[00:41:49]  So they'll negate his capability.
[00:41:52]  And then they're going to jump between the vehicles and cause a crossfire.
[00:41:55]  Are we in like a city area with a lot of buildings?
[00:41:58]  No, you're out in the middle of nowhere.
[00:41:59]  Very middle of nowhere.
[00:42:00]  Yeah, way out in the mountains of afghanistan Pakistan on the border there.
[00:42:05]  Okay along a place it's called the Kunar River.
[00:42:08]  Okay and pitch black and So yeah, so we got it all figured out okay guys 50 meter spread once the H comes in you know we'll execute and We had basically we told everybody said we me and I had three other Americans with us so it was four Americans and about I Don't know maybe a hundred Afghans and soldiers and we said listen guys every gun.
[00:42:33]  I mean every truck, run your guns, shoot at everything and anything.
[00:42:37]  They could hide the Taliban behind it right, and just don't shoot each other, right.
[00:42:40]  So so, one by one, I remember I was vehicle number 15 and uh, I have how many out of 20?
[00:42:47]  Uh 23, and uh, I had all the antennas because I had the command vehicle with the radios in it right and I said, which basically says, shoot here right, shoot here command element.
[00:42:57]  And so i'm sitting there and i'm watching through my night vision goggles that the h comes in, he can't do much and I kind of starts loitering a little bit.
[00:43:08]  Is it like a countdown before you have to start going through the ambush?
[00:43:12]  No, it's just we waited for when the bird came in bounce.
[00:43:15]  Okay, bird's 10 seconds out, five seconds out.
[00:43:18]  All right, execute.
[00:43:19]  As soon as he comes in, you start running guns.
[00:43:25]  So the first vehicle takes off, and I'm watching through my night vision goggles, and you see freaking rounds of traces going all directions.
[00:43:31]  Then the second vehicle, then the third vehicle.
[00:43:33]  You think about it, each one's 50 meters apart, right?
[00:43:36]  It can do about five miles an hour.
[00:43:38]  It's like the March of the Penguins, man.

=== Instant Cash Transfers Explained (02:53) ===

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[00:43:52]  And we knew there was an IED waiting for us because there was an S turn on the side of this mountain.
[00:43:59]  And that's where he laid all the IEDs because they hit a lot of vehicles there.
[00:44:02]  We knew they were there.
[00:44:02]  We could hear him talking about it.
[00:44:03]  I was like, ah, shit, we're going to get hit by an IED most likely.
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[00:45:45]  And I thought, you know what?
[00:45:46]  I can't be distracted by what ifs.
[00:45:48]  And so I remember thinking about my wife, my kids.
[00:45:53]  I saw each one's face one by one, you know, just flashing from my eyes for a minute.
[00:45:56]  I thought about each one, go down the list, right?
[00:45:59]  Really long list, no.
[00:46:01]  And so, blah, All the ex wives, too?
[00:46:03]  All the ex.
[00:46:03]  No, no, no.
[00:46:04]  Yeah.
[00:46:05]  Thought about how much money they're not going to get.
[00:46:09]  Yeah.
[00:46:09]  A bunch of bandits, man.
[00:46:11]  Holy cow.
[00:46:12]  Don't get me started on that conversation.
[00:46:13]  I won't.
[00:46:14]  I won't.
[00:46:14]  Yeah.
[00:46:14]  Sorry, I killed the moment.
[00:46:15]  Yeah, but no.
[00:46:17]  So you're like meditating on all of that.
[00:46:19]  So basically, I just wanted to, what I want to do is just clear my mind so that when I do this deliberate move, I'm not thinking about, I'm not distracted by anything other than business, what I got to do, right?
[00:46:29]  So that's what I did.
[00:46:30]  So, like, all right.
[00:46:31]  Get that out of your mind right now.
[00:46:32]  Say goodbye in your mind.

=== Clearing the Mind for Action (15:59) ===

[00:46:33]  Okay, it's over now.
[00:46:34]  Focus on the task ahead, right?
[00:46:36]  So off I go.
[00:46:38]  It's my turn.
[00:46:38]  And I got one Afghan with me in the right side and one in the back seat, my interpreters.
[00:46:44]  And I remember the road was so bumpy that I broke the front right strut on my vehicle.
[00:46:50]  And the tire was rubbing on the inside of the wheel well.
[00:46:53]  Holy shit.
[00:46:55]  Long enough for it to catch on fire, right?
[00:46:57]  And so I got a front right wheel that's on fire.
[00:46:59]  It's burning.
[00:46:59]  I'm freaking trying to push this thing down the road, you know?
[00:47:02]  Five miles an hour, and shit.
[00:47:03]  You know, we're shooting out the windows and stuff like that.
[00:47:05]  But finally, we make it out, and, you know, we get to the other side.
[00:47:12]  We stop, we regroup.
[00:47:13]  Lost, we didn't lose, but we had seven or nine vehicles get shot up pretty bad.
[00:47:17]  We had several guys get shot in the body armor, get wounded, but nobody was KI-8 on that one.
[00:47:22]  Um, and we're like, wow, yeah, that's incredible.
[00:47:24]  Yeah, we were lucky, right?
[00:47:25]  And then we're listening to the radio, and we could hear the Taliban commander asking the trigger man for the IAD, he goes, Why didn't you detonate the IAD?
[00:47:33]  And he said, He literally told me already because I couldn't.
[00:47:36]  He goes, They were shooting at everything, I couldn't get my head up behind the tree, the log to pull the to hit the plunger, right?
[00:47:41]  So it actually worked, just laying bullets down, just kept.
[00:47:44]  Everybody's heads down until we could pass through the gauntlet, so that's why he didn't fire for IED.
[00:47:48]  Yeah, um, God, but I got out of it.
[00:47:51]  I was, you know, I kept my word to myself.
[00:47:53]  I was like, you know what, I'm gonna not because I'm scared, just tired, man.
[00:47:58]  You know, 10 years of just that.
[00:48:00]  Plus, you know, I've been in every conflict from literally 1983 Grenada to the present conflicts to include Yemen.
[00:48:06]  Um, yeah, I was in Yemen as a mercenary.
[00:48:09]  Um, and so at that time, I was just like, you know, I gotta.
[00:48:14]  I love talking to Julian the other day.
[00:48:15]  He's like, he's like.
[00:48:16]  Get him to talk about Yemen.
[00:48:17]  He calls it Yemen like no one else.
[00:48:19]  Some people call it Yemen.
[00:48:21]  Dale calls it Yemen.
[00:48:21]  Yemen.
[00:48:23]  Yemen.
[00:48:24]  That's fucking amazing.
[00:48:25]  Whatever it is.
[00:48:26]  You know, the white country, man.
[00:48:28]  Yeah, that was a shit show, too.
[00:48:31]  But so after that, you kept the promise to yourself and you decided no more combat.
[00:48:36]  Yeah.
[00:48:36]  So prior to that deployment, so the company that bought my company, they were going to buy my company, right?
[00:48:46]  They said, listen, we'd like to buy your company again, right?
[00:48:50]  And we'd like to have you on board with us, but, you know, maybe you can help us with something.
[00:48:55]  Like, what?
[00:48:56]  He goes, can you go down to Shell, Houston, Texas, go to Corporate Security Shell Oil Company and pitch this, you know, basically get us a job is what it came down to.
[00:49:07]  I said, okay.
[00:49:08]  And if I do that, what happens?
[00:49:09]  They go, we'll buy your company and you can run your company under us and we take care of everything.
[00:49:12]  That's a good deal.
[00:49:13]  So I go down there.
[00:49:14]  I'll make that deal.
[00:49:15]  So I went down there.
[00:49:15]  Yeah, and I did.
[00:49:16]  I sold the program.
[00:49:18]  What we did was provide security.
[00:49:21]  For example, I think the drilling season, if I remember right, was May through like August, September.
[00:49:28]  So, what they do in the drilling seasons, the oil companies, they send all their drilling boats and ships and everything up to the Arctic Circle during that time.
[00:49:38]  The problem, sometimes they come all the way from New Zealand.
[00:49:40]  The problem is you got all the granola heads out there.
[00:49:43]  Everybody wants to paint them, you know, the green piecers, you know, the environmentalists, right?
[00:49:50]  Yeah.
[00:49:51]  So, anyways, they're always.
[00:49:52]  Causing trouble.
[00:49:52]  So, anyways.
[00:49:53]  So they needed security.
[00:49:54]  On Greta Thornberg yeah right um, so they need security, and so what we did is provide security for them and that was my job to manage that.
[00:50:02]  Getting you know, two guys on each boat, you know and um, it was unarmed but nonetheless their job was to advise the commander, the crew um captain, you know, etc etc etc.
[00:50:11]  So um, so I did it and like well, good job, bought my company and I started working for them for a couple years.
[00:50:18]  Um, you know, there's a lot of cartel conflict in with the oil companies down in Texas too.
[00:50:24]  I heard, Yeah.
[00:50:24]  Well, I mean, I watched the show, the Oil Man show with Billy Bob Thornton.
[00:50:27]  Yeah.
[00:50:28]  I don't know if you saw that, but there was a lot of conflict and drama that goes between the cartel messing with the oil companies.
[00:50:37]  And like, there's also a lot of like illegal shit that they have to do when they're having their.
[00:50:44]  And again, I don't know if this is, I mean, I assume there's this is based in a lot of reality where like there's things where like the cartel will steal a lot of their shit and they.
[00:50:55]  They don't have time to like mess around.
[00:50:57]  They basically have to like let the cartel steal their stuff and like use it as a write off, or else the cartel is going to be just a war between the oil companies and the cartels.
[00:51:05]  Yeah, actually what I ended up doing too is I started doing a lot of consulting work for petrochemical plants, oil companies down on the border.
[00:51:13]  So I've been down on the border in Texas.
[00:51:17]  And this was years ago, but here's what I observed.
[00:51:20]  One, yeah, even back then, you had people come across the border and they're literally stealing company trucks to infiltrate, get further deeper in, right?
[00:51:30]  Equipment, things like that.
[00:51:32]  Literally at gunpoint holding up the oil workers, going, give me your gun and your keys and your wallet while you had it.
[00:51:38]  So that was happening.
[00:51:40]  The other thing that was happening that nobody talked about was we were finding cachets with like prayer rugs, AK-47s, all that shit on the border.
[00:51:51]  Yeah.
[00:51:52]  Prayer rugs?
[00:51:53]  Yes.
[00:51:56]  Muslims were coming through the Mexican border.
[00:51:58]  With weapons, right?
[00:52:00]  So shoulder-fired weapons, AK-47s, all that kind of stuff.
[00:52:06]  And nobody wanted to talk about that, right?
[00:52:09]  And because they don't want to I guess freak people out.
[00:52:11]  Well, they should have freaked people out because maybe, maybe we could have stopped a lot of bullshit early on.
[00:52:16]  But, which the irony of it is, like I would tell nuclear power plants, listen, you guys need to protect yourself from a shoulder-fired weapon.
[00:52:23]  They go, ah, what the bad guys are going to get shoulder-fired weapons from?
[00:52:25]  I go, well, they just go down to Radio Shack.
[00:52:27]  What are you talking about?
[00:52:27]  I said, yeah.
[00:52:28]  There was a guy actually in Florida who went to Radio Shack, bought all the components, and actually built a shoulder-fired weapon RPG.
[00:52:34]  In fact, one of my business partners, he's really good at manufacturing, he actually built a stainless steel RPG that actually could fire projectiles.
[00:52:41]  He's one of six guys in the United States that has a license to build shoulder-fired weapons.
[00:52:44]  And he made it at home in his garage.
[00:52:46]  Oh my God.
[00:52:47]  So, no, it's not hard to do.
[00:52:49]  In fact, you mentioned drones earlier.
[00:52:52]  If you look at the drones in Ukraine, they're very small.
[00:52:54]  And how are these little $50 drones taking out these $50 million high-end tax?
[00:52:58]  That's crazy.
[00:52:59]  It's because of what's called a shape charge.
[00:53:01]  Shape charge is very simple to make, right?
[00:53:04]  And a shape charge is actually the component to an RPG that allows it to penetrate armors and tanks and destroy things.
[00:53:11]  Really?
[00:53:11]  Yeah, it's not hard to make.
[00:53:12]  That's the reality of it.
[00:53:13]  It's not hard to make.
[00:53:14]  So, you know, we've been, as Americans, you know, Citizens, civilians, security have been too complacent because they don't know what they don't know because nobody wants to tell them what they need to know.
[00:53:26]  Right.
[00:53:26]  So there's more going on in this world, especially in this country, and has been for a very long time that most people don't, they're not even aware of.
[00:53:33]  But we're starting to hear it now.
[00:53:34]  It's like, wait, what?
[00:53:35]  What?
[00:53:35]  Right.
[00:53:36]  I recently had this dude on the show who was working at the Rand Corporation and he was talking about how they're, it's like a think tank, military futuristic think tank on how to implement new war tactics.
[00:53:49]  And one of the things that they talk about is, or they're working on is this thing called.
[00:53:52]  Spreadsheet warfare, where essentially they can do things for really cheap, really cheap, effective operations and cheap weapons to take out super expensive military equipment for adversary military equipment.
[00:54:04]  So essentially, they take like, and there was a Palantir commercial too that we watched where there was like $500, $100 drones, right, with little explosives in them.
[00:54:14]  They could take them and swarm battleships and literally take out a freaking $6 billion battleship.
[00:54:19]  Well, that's asymmetrical warfare.
[00:54:21]  Here's the funny part this is not even new.
[00:54:23]  So I want you to think about this.
[00:54:24]  Go back to when.
[00:54:26]  Russia went into Afghanistan.
[00:54:27]  They were fighting the Mujahideen.
[00:54:28]  Right.
[00:54:29]  Right.
[00:54:29]  The Mujahideen, dudes with flip-flops and AK-47s, hand the Russian, a modern army, their ass.
[00:54:35]  Why?
[00:54:36]  Okay.
[00:54:37]  Why is that?
[00:54:37]  Because, listen, man, we, you know, we get too caught up in conventional warfare, the whole World War II mindset.
[00:54:43]  We got to have tanks and massive armies going together.
[00:54:45]  We were helping them too, weren't they?
[00:54:47]  Well, no, the problem is when you fight a war asymmetrically, when you use guerrilla fighters, you can't win.
[00:54:52]  Right.
[00:54:53]  Right.
[00:54:53]  And this is what gets me is about Afghanistan and even Iraq is they were bent on using conventional forces, right, to fight an unconventional war because the Taliban, they were invisible.
[00:55:10]  They were villagers and at night they'd put their shit on and go out and get in a fight and then hide it in a cache, come back and go to war.
[00:55:15]  And they did in Iraq too, right?
[00:55:16]  So we were fighting unconventional warfare using conventional means.
[00:55:20]  And nobody wanted to change that paradigm, right?
[00:55:22]  Because, well, There were guys in armor, for example, arguing, you know, that, you know, why they should be there.
[00:55:29]  And it's like, you're not for what, right?
[00:55:32]  Afghanistan should have been a special forces mission only.
[00:55:37]  Spec ops, right?
[00:55:38]  Guys, an A-Team.
[00:55:39]  Surgical shit.
[00:55:40]  Yeah.
[00:55:41]  A-Team goes in, for example, like I did, and you go out and you go out and spot, recruit, train, you know, 500 Afghan, you know, goat farmers.
[00:55:51]  You teach them to be soldiers.
[00:55:52]  Go, I'm going to give you a lot of money to be my soldier and fight for me.
[00:55:54]  You can take care of all your kids.
[00:55:56]  I have lots of goats.
[00:55:57]  Yeah, right.
[00:55:57]  We're going to go do bad things to you know bad people, and uh, that so a special forces team like an A team, Green Beret team, is what's called a force multiplier.
[00:56:06]  That's our job is to go out and build these units, these basically small armies, right?
[00:56:12]  To go out and and fight.
[00:56:14]  Um, it doesn't work when you're trying to you know, you're trying to use you know conventional armor, you know, to fight a guy that's hiding in the shadows all the time.
[00:56:23]  Like, how you what are you going to do?
[00:56:26]  Send 150 infantry guys to find a small band of dudes somewhere in the mountains, you know?
[00:56:31]  Um, And I hate to say this, man, but the reality is this.
[00:56:36]  You know, war is a racket, and people are making money.
[00:56:39]  And they made a lot of money keeping that war going.
[00:56:42]  Everybody wanted to play.
[00:56:45]  I remember being at some black sites out in the middle, literally Fort Apache, Indian country, as dangerous as it can get, not only externally, but internally.
[00:56:53]  I had 500 Afghans, which I know I had Taliban in the ranks, right?
[00:56:57]  We had a second cantonment area within the major cantonment area.
[00:57:01]  That was just for the Americans, right?
[00:57:02]  We had all our our radios, communications, all that stuff in there.
[00:57:06]  We had a total of 15 Americans there.
[00:57:10]  Only two of us were shooters.
[00:57:12]  The other ones were log reps, communicators, case officers, blah, And I remember what would happen.
[00:57:23]  And I looked at some of who these, for example, logisticians that came in, right?
[00:57:27]  Where are you from?
[00:57:28]  Some chick.
[00:57:29]  Oh, I'm from, you know, I don't know, Venice, you know, or Italy, right?
[00:57:33]  Rome, Italy, from the embassy there, or from Germany, or I'm, you know.
[00:57:36]  They're all from these embassies and they want to get, we call them combat tourists, right?
[00:57:40]  They want to go down range, go, yes, I was in combat, right?
[00:57:42]  And I remember this one chick.
[00:57:43]  She's walking around and she ain't got a firearm on her, right?
[00:57:47]  And I asked her, I said, where's your pistol at?
[00:57:50]  You know, you're supposed to carry a pistol, minimum, right?
[00:57:53]  You should.
[00:57:54]  She goes, well, I'm against guns.
[00:57:55]  Now think about the mindset there, right?
[00:57:57]  That's very typical, by the way.
[00:57:58]  That was not a one-off.
[00:58:00]  I got that a lot.
[00:58:00]  I'm against guns.
[00:58:02]  Like, why are you here?
[00:58:03]  Why are you here?
[00:58:04]  I can do my job here, but I don't need a gun.
[00:58:05]  I go, what's going to keep 500 dudes from coming over that wall?
[00:58:08]  The 500 are out there right now.
[00:58:10]  What's going to keep them from coming over the wall?
[00:58:12]  And how are you going to defend me?
[00:58:14]  With what?
[00:58:15]  Harsh words?
[00:58:16]  So there was a lot of that going on.
[00:58:17]  It was really crazy, man.
[00:58:19]  Ideology versus practicality.
[00:58:22]  Dude, we have lost our focus as a nation, man.
[00:58:25]  Hopefully we're getting it back now.
[00:58:27]  But it was really, really bad.
[00:58:29]  Really, really bad.
[00:58:30]  I remember, I don't even want to talk about some of the shit I saw and heard over there.
[00:58:34]  It would make your head split like, what?
[00:58:37]  It was crazy, man.
[00:58:38]  Even DEI was an effect over there.
[00:58:40]  I had a guy tell me, He's a DEI guy.
[00:58:45]  And actually, he was at the time, he was an EO guy.
[00:58:47]  What's that mean?
[00:58:48]  Equal opportunity, right?
[00:58:49]  Oh, okay, okay.
[00:58:50]  And he was a rep and his job was to come out to all the fobs, right?
[00:58:56]  The camps and stuff out there.
[00:58:58]  And to literally give us a class on equal opportunity, no harassment, don't call people nasty names, don't check out the chick in the hallway, you know, just weird shit, right?
[00:59:10]  And I remember they came out and one of the things he was telling us, he goes, you know, look, if we, two dudes, a bunch of dudes in a room together, play, grab ass, call each other kinds of weird names and you know whatever right hey hey, dumb.
[00:59:25]  You know whatever.
[00:59:25]  You retard right, that's what we do, dick and fart jokes right right, so he was supposed to be able to call people gay and retarded.
[00:59:31]  Yeah, he's like you can't do that, right?
[00:59:33]  And uh, you shouldn't be cussing at people.
[00:59:36]  Uh, you know, teach people, treat people with you know, respect.
[00:59:39]  And i'm like you know where you're at right and he's looking at me.
[00:59:42]  I said, I said this camp, right here.
[00:59:44]  First of all, I said the dudes that are around us, these are all freaking hardcore Afghans.
[00:59:50]  Some of them have fought actually the Russians.
[00:59:51]  They're freaking hardcore.
[00:59:53]  I said when I go outside the gate here, Maybe by myself or one other American.
[00:59:58]  Sometimes I got to call these guys a motherfucker because they're not doing what they're supposed to do.
[01:00:02]  It's like, if you don't do it, I'm going to shoot you myself, right?
[01:00:06]  And so they don't, when it comes to combat, sometimes being a nice guy doesn't work.
[01:00:11]  You kind of have to be a dick and get the job done, you know?
[01:00:14]  And so, you know, and I'll yell at these guys and I'll, you know, I do shit like that because that's what needs to be done.
[01:00:19]  So coming here preaching about EEO and all this other crap.
[01:00:22]  But yeah, it was a weird, it was, there was some weird stuff too.
[01:00:26]  Overall, I enjoyed the job and I'll tell you why because.
[01:00:30]  I had full autonomy.
[01:00:32]  It was like, and I always use the, you know, I talk about.
[01:00:36]  Sorry, and just to clarify, we're talking about what point in time right now, like what year roughly?
[01:00:40]  This was circa, actually this particular event was 2010.
[01:00:44]  Okay.
[01:00:47]  Yeah, something like that, right?
[01:00:48]  And that was the other part.
[01:00:50]  As the war started drawing on, it started getting really more crazy because, you know, now all these, the bureaucrats came in, you got to do this, you got to write a con up for 10 days to just go on a mission for tomorrow, right?
[01:01:01]  And just stupid stuff.
[01:01:02]  When I was there, Literally, I could walk into the office to the boss and they'd go, hey, man, I'm taking the boys out tonight.
[01:01:08]  We're going to go down range here.
[01:01:10]  We're going to hit this target.
[01:01:10]  If I hit this target, I'll be back sometime tomorrow afternoon.
[01:01:13]  He'd be like, go get it done.
[01:01:15]  Be careful.
[01:01:16]  That was it.
[01:01:16]  That was it.
[01:01:17]  I just go do what I want.
[01:01:18]  As long as it was in support of the global war on terror and I was doing what needed to be done to win the war, collect intelligence, take care of the bad guys, take care of my good guys, then that was fine.
[01:01:28]  And then it started changing as time went on, right?
[01:01:30]  Then it came out with the, you know, you can't interrogate.
[01:01:34]  Interview the bad guys.
[01:01:35]  I was like, you know, that was just some stupid stuff there, man.
[01:01:38]  You can't interrogate?
[01:01:39]  Yeah, they came out with that.
[01:01:39]  So, what happened was, American, you know, some of the weenies were like, you can't, you know.
[01:01:45]  Actually, what kind of blew everything open was, I don't know if you remember that picture of a bunch of young soldiers, men and women in Iraq in one of the prisons.
[01:01:54]  They had taken a bunch of Iraqi soldiers out.
[01:01:57]  They were butt naked, right?
[01:01:58]  And they're humiliating them and they're doing all kinds of weird shit.
[01:02:00]  They're making them like stack each other up.
[01:02:02]  This is the Abu Graves, though?
[01:02:03]  Yeah, right?
[01:02:04]  All that kind of crap, right?
[01:02:05]  So, that kind of.
[01:02:06]  Got everybody's attention.
[01:02:07]  But by the way, they were not interrogators.
[01:02:09]  They were way outside their skill set.
[01:02:12]  You know, they're just.
[01:02:13]  Well, there was the enhanced interrogation, which is what they call the torture program.
[01:02:17]  There was a guy who lived right down the road from here who got paid like millions of dollars to develop this enhanced interrogation, like, you know, super sophisticated torture, I guess.
[01:02:27]  You know what enhanced interrogation is?
[01:02:29]  See, that's the funny thing this is what most people don't understand.

=== Abu Ghraib Humiliation Details (06:43) ===

[01:02:32]  We could just make guys cry.
[01:02:34]  Doesn't even have to touch them.
[01:02:35]  Right.
[01:02:35]  Just make them cry.
[01:02:36]  Right.
[01:02:36]  Right.
[01:02:37]  And they would tell you anything they want.
[01:02:39]  I mean, we had one guy one time.
[01:02:42]  He had two brothers.
[01:02:44]  And he knew stuff.
[01:02:46]  They built IEDs and things like this.
[01:02:48]  He didn't know we had the brothers.
[01:02:50]  And we're putting pressure on him.
[01:02:51]  When I say pressure, it was really just yelling at him, you know, freaking, you know, and then, you know, manipulating his mind a little bit.
[01:02:58]  But finally, I had him handcuffed in a way so his hands were behind the seat.
[01:03:04]  And it was a little uncomfortable after you sit there for a while with handcuffs on.
[01:03:08]  And so we said, well, listen, man, okay, we wrote down everything you just told us.
[01:03:13]  Now we're going to bring your brothers in here.
[01:03:15]  And if their stories don't match your story, it's going to be really bad.
[01:03:18]  And his eyes got really big like, what?
[01:03:19]  And then sure enough, we marched his two brothers and he didn't know we had those, right?
[01:03:22]  And oh, my God.
[01:03:23]  That was funny because now they're turning on each other, right?
[01:03:25]  It's like, you know, they're telling on each other.
[01:03:29]  But, you know, but it works.
[01:03:30]  I mean, we saved a lot of lives, you know, and it's not an interview, you know.
[01:03:35]  It's, you know, the guy that kind of started this bullshit was John McCain, right?
[01:03:41]  Because he was a POW in Vietnam.
[01:03:43]  He says interrogations don't work.
[01:03:44]  Well, I'll tell you right now, interrogations do work.
[01:03:46]  A lot of Americans are alive because they did work.
[01:03:49]  And guess what?
[01:03:50]  The enemy didn't die for it.
[01:03:51]  They didn't lose a finger.
[01:03:52]  They didn't lose their toenails.
[01:03:53]  They didn't have a drill in their knee.
[01:03:55]  It doesn't even take all that.
[01:03:56]  Enhanced interrogation technique, a lot of times it's just being, especially culturally, right?
[01:04:02]  So, for example, the Arabs, particularly the Iraqis, I hate to say it, man.
[01:04:07]  They're kind of soft, man.
[01:04:08]  They're tough guys with the AK-47, but when you get them alone, they just fold like in a minute.
[01:04:12]  It didn't take much to make them cry and scare them.
[01:04:14]  Yeah, you know.
[01:04:14]  And in fact, I always say most terrorists are like that.
[01:04:16]  Most terrorists are like that.
[01:04:17]  You know, they're just weenies.
[01:04:20]  They're cowards with guns.
[01:04:21]  You take away their gun, you isolate them from their friends.
[01:04:24]  Yeah, they just fall apart, man.
[01:04:25]  And it would make sense, right?
[01:04:27]  They're bullies.
[01:04:28]  That's what bullies do, you know?
[01:04:30]  Yeah.
[01:04:33]  But what do you think is the fundamental reason or the fundamental problem with these people in these countries and being militarized and born and raised to hate Americans?
[01:04:47]  Like, if there was one common denominator underlying all of those people, what would you say that it is?
[01:04:54]  Well, You know, I could say religion, but it can't be religion.
[01:04:58]  I'll tell you why.
[01:04:58]  If you look in our country now, we got Americans losing their shit over Americans.
[01:05:05]  I mean, they're just as radical as anybody else on the planet.
[01:05:08]  So you can't say it's necessarily religion.
[01:05:11]  There might be a religion component to it, for example, Islam.
[01:05:14]  Sure.
[01:05:15]  If you tell people they're going to meet 50 virgins when they die and, you know.
[01:05:18]  Yeah, I think it's 74 now.
[01:05:19]  Oh, 74, yeah.
[01:05:20]  I think I went up, right?
[01:05:20]  Okay.
[01:05:21]  Yeah.
[01:05:22]  Never have too many virgins in heaven or hell, wherever the fuck you're going.
[01:05:25]  We've got to account for inflation and stuff like that, right?
[01:05:28]  I mean, bigger guys, more steroids.
[01:05:30]  But so, yeah, I lost my train of thought.
[01:05:35]  I was asking about all the virgin, like, woo.
[01:05:39]  Like the common denominator or driving force behind.
[01:05:41]  Yeah.
[01:05:42]  So, look, here's the thing a lot of people don't know.
[01:05:45]  My wife's actually Muslim.
[01:05:47]  My wife's Indonesian, and she's a Muslim.
[01:05:48]  And I'll tell you, Indonesian Muslims are not like Middle Eastern Muslims.
[01:05:51]  Far from it.
[01:05:52]  Far from it.
[01:05:53]  My wife smokes cigarettes, you know.
[01:05:55]  Paint her toenails, she wears booty shorts, you know, big boobies hang out.
[01:05:58]  Oh, hell yeah.
[01:05:59]  And so that's kind of, especially where we live, it's kind of common.
[01:06:03]  It's not, there's, in fact, where I live, Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, Hindu, and Muslims all live together and there's no drama.
[01:06:14]  There's no drama whatsoever.
[01:06:17]  So I can't say it's that.
[01:06:19]  It's the, it's not, now, it could be the more extremist Muslims in the Middle East.
[01:06:23]  In fact, I was in Egypt one time.
[01:06:25]  I'm sorry, I was in LAX and my driver, my limo driver was an Egyptian guy.
[01:06:29]  And he said, Where are you living?
[01:06:31]  I said, Well, I'm living in Indonesia.
[01:06:33]  And he goes, Oh, he goes, Indonesian people are great.
[01:06:36]  He goes, The Indonesian Muslims are the Muslims we try to aspire to be like.
[01:06:39]  They're very friendly.
[01:06:39]  I said, Where are you from?
[01:06:40]  Because I'm from Egypt.
[01:06:41]  I go, Oh, yeah, probably a good idea, man.
[01:06:44]  There's no drama about religion over there.
[01:06:46]  None.
[01:06:46]  Nobody messes with you about religion in Indonesia.
[01:06:48]  And it's 93% Muslim.
[01:06:53]  So that part of it could be maybe extremism.
[01:06:57]  And I think a lot of it's just brainwashing, man.
[01:06:59]  When you think about, I mean, how can so many smart people be so stupid?
[01:07:04]  How can so many smart people just seem to be just going along with this program?
[01:07:08]  Is it because they have nefarious intentions and they want to do something badly and bring us all down?
[01:07:13]  Or are they just that dumb?
[01:07:15]  I would argue number two.
[01:07:16]  Most people are just dumb, even with an education.
[01:07:18]  They're just not that smart.
[01:07:19]  Well, I think we looked it up actually on a recent podcast, Steve, but I think we found that like, I want to say 50% of the population of Afghanistan, I think, and that area in general is inbred.
[01:07:34]  Yeah.
[01:07:34]  There's a lot of inbreeding going on.
[01:07:36]  Yeah.
[01:07:37]  Yeah.
[01:07:37]  That's not a good thing, especially with humans, right?
[01:07:39]  You could do maybe one off, but maybe a cousin or something like that.
[01:07:43]  But after you do two or threes, it starts getting weird, right?
[01:07:45]  I mean, that's not the only thing.
[01:07:46]  Obviously, like combined with the fact that, you know, This, what's been going on over there, with especially with people being killed and children seeing their entire lives destroyed in front of their faces, their mothers and siblings and fathers being killed in front of them.
[01:08:05]  And it's very easy to paint a picture for them like America, bad guy.
[01:08:10]  I mean, if I was in their shoes, I would probably feel the same fucking way.
[01:08:14]  Like, these people are responsible for my whole family dying.
[01:08:17]  I'm going to dedicate the rest of my life.
[01:08:19]  To wipe America off the face of the planet.
[01:08:22]  And so it's like, you know, it's like this, you know, this self fulfilling prophecy of it was go out there and take out more terrorists, but there is it, you're it's the Hydra, right?
[01:08:32]  You chop off the head and four grow back.
[01:08:33]  Yeah.
[01:08:35]  Oh, this is the cousin marriage statistic.
[01:08:37]  The study found that the rate to be 47.2% in Morocco.
[01:08:42]  It gives you a percentage of every single country that has a cousin marriage in the Middle East.
[01:08:49]  Oh, okay.
[01:08:50]  So what's the top country in the Middle East that has the highest percentage of?
[01:08:53]  Cousin marriage, Steve.
[01:08:56]  You got to click the link.
[01:09:04]  Find the list.
[01:09:07]  All right, let us know when you find the list.
[01:09:08]  But, anyways, that's a huge part of what's going on right now with Israel and Gaza.

=== Cousin Marriage Statistics (02:51) ===

[01:09:16]  It's just like the more people you kill, killing people is not going to solve the problem.
[01:09:24]  I don't think, which is why, which is why, you know, I've had this debate with people too on the show, and I've thought a lot about it.
[01:09:32]  Like, I sometimes wonder if doing surgical operations, like under the nighttime, like quiet, covert operations where you can go in and slit one guy's throat instead of sending tons of people in and, you know, spending all this money and killing all these innocent people.
[01:09:59]  You know, you would think that if we really wanted to get rid of these problems, you could do them without all the collateral damage and without building up these factions that are born and raised with this hatred for America.
[01:10:17]  You know, like you said, the self flicking ice cream cone is what it's become with all these wars and people growing up with, you know, losing their entire families because of these pointless wars.
[01:10:27]  Yeah.
[01:10:28]  No, you're right.
[01:10:32]  Surgical, you know, and nobody wanted to talk about that in the past because everybody wanted to be a player in the military, in the guard, in the war.
[01:10:40]  But now, you know, we see a paradigm shift.
[01:10:42]  We see the use of extensive use of drones, right?
[01:10:45]  That has really changed the face of the battlefield.
[01:10:48]  I mean, that's some scary stuff.
[01:10:49]  I have a friend.
[01:10:51]  He's one of my coaching clients.
[01:10:52]  He was actually a French foreign legionnaire from Ireland.
[01:10:56]  And while I was coaching him, he decided to go to Ukraine to fight.
[01:10:59]  He didn't last a month.
[01:11:00]  I mean, when I say it didn't last, he came back.
[01:11:02]  But what he told me was as soon as he got there, within about three or four days, he went out with 120 men and three of them came back, including him.
[01:11:11]  They were just wiped out by drones, artillery, everything else.
[01:11:14]  He goes, yeah, that's a big problem, the drones.
[01:11:17]  And how do you beat drones, right?
[01:11:19]  I mean, now they're wire guided, they're GPS guided.
[01:11:23]  There's so many ways you can control a drone that jamming a signal is not always going to work anymore.
[01:11:28]  Some of them are very autonomous, can fly on a map, and then you draw out the route they wanted this thing to fly with a picture of the objective on the end.
[01:11:38]  And it just has, it's almost like AI, it knows how to fly itself, right?
[01:11:42]  So that's the new wave of warfare.
[01:11:45]  And I'll be honest with you, I'd hate to be out there fighting in a war like that with a drone.
[01:11:49]  Holy shit, man.
[01:11:50]  You know?
[01:11:52]  Yeah, man, some of the videos that have been coming out on the internet.
[01:11:55]  It's brutal.
[01:11:55]  Of like the Ukraine war with Russia is, oh my God, it's insane.
[01:11:59]  I've never seen anything like that.
[01:12:01]  It's a crazy time we live in where all this stuff is just broadcast.
[01:12:04]  These guys are out there in combat wearing GoPros that are streaming straight to the internet.

=== Autonomous Drone Warfare (15:36) ===

[01:12:08]  Right.
[01:12:08]  It's crazy.
[01:12:09]  Fucking insane.
[01:12:09]  You see the one where the.
[01:12:12]  This one kind of disturbed me a little bit.
[01:12:16]  Ukrainian and Russian soldier in hand combat in a knife fight.
[01:12:19]  You seen that one?
[01:12:20]  I heard about that.
[01:12:21]  I did not watch it.
[01:12:22]  Oh my God, dude.
[01:12:23]  It's pretty.
[01:12:24]  It's pretty crazy, man.
[01:12:26]  And finally, what happened was you know, one guy was wearing a GoPro, right?
[01:12:32]  He was wearing a GoPro, and there was also an ISR bird.
[01:12:36]  Not an ISR, but a drone up above, right?
[01:12:38]  So, filmed the whole thing.
[01:12:40]  So, you can see it from both perspectives.
[01:12:42]  But actually, the Ukrainian guy is the guy that came up short.
[01:12:45]  But before he passed, he asked the Russian guy, he goes, hey, he goes, I'm done, man.
[01:12:49]  He goes, I'm not going to survive this.
[01:12:50]  Just let me lay here and die in peace.
[01:12:51]  Would you do that for me?
[01:12:53]  And the Russian's like, yeah, I can do that for you.
[01:12:55]  And he just got up and left him there and let him down on his own.
[01:12:59]  And actually, this is not it.
[01:13:00]  I don't want to know.
[01:13:01]  We can't play this.
[01:13:02]  Yeah.
[01:13:02]  This video, we will get this thing completely nuked off YouTube if you play this.
[01:13:05]  Yeah.
[01:13:06]  Don't even do it.
[01:13:07]  Yeah.
[01:13:08]  But Putin apparently, you know, acknowledged this guy for what he did, you know, commended him for it.
[01:13:11]  That's commendable, man.
[01:13:12]  Look, you don't have to kill a dude, you know.
[01:13:15]  Honestly, there's a lot of people I could have killed and I just let him go.
[01:13:17]  It's like, for what?
[01:13:18]  You.
[01:13:18]  Yeah.
[01:13:19]  Yeah.
[01:13:19]  It's like, no point shooting that dude.
[01:13:21]  You know, he's trying to get out of here and he's, you don't know what he's doing.
[01:13:25]  So, you know, there's a time and then there's a time where, hmm.
[01:13:28]  Is it worth doing that, you know?
[01:13:30]  Yeah.
[01:13:30]  Is it worth engaging right now and risking hurting somebody else?
[01:13:33]  I'll use one example real quick.
[01:13:36]  Modelo Prison.
[01:13:37]  I was with the breacher on Modelo Prison.
[01:13:40]  And I remember there's a where was this?
[01:13:43]  Panama.
[01:13:44]  In Panama.
[01:13:44]  Yeah.
[01:13:45]  So when we went into Panama, right?
[01:13:46]  And the whatever you want to call it, we did the invasion.
[01:13:52]  But part of it was a rescue occurring.
[01:13:54]  In the 80s?
[01:13:55]  Yes.
[01:13:56]  1989.
[01:13:56]  In the 80s.
[01:13:57]  December 20th, 1989.
[01:13:59]  So I had an opportunity.
[01:14:01]  I remember there was a dude running with like five women around him, whole little kids, and they were all clustered together.
[01:14:06]  He had an AK-47.
[01:14:08]  First of all, let's lay this out.
[01:14:09]  What was the purpose of this mission?
[01:14:11]  What was your objective here?
[01:14:12]  All right, so this was the raid on Modelo Prison.
[01:14:15]  So what happened was back in the day with Noriega, right?
[01:14:18]  So he started coming a little bit off the rails.
[01:14:22]  So they caught a guy named Kurt Muse.
[01:14:24]  Kurt Muse, even though he'll deny it, was a knock for the CIA, right?
[01:14:29]  Official cover, posing as a business guy, and uh, and then you know, i'm just meaning he's like completely deniable.
[01:14:35]  Yeah, the CIA can yeah well, that's what he's right, but it's no denying um so, so then he's like i'm a business guy oh, I think i'm gonna start a Rotary club.
[01:14:43]  So he starts a Rotary club right right, like he's a hobby communicator, right CB guy.
[01:14:48]  But actually what he was doing was running um sigint ops against Noriega.
[01:14:52]  So he's literally jamming his speeches, all kinds of stuff right, and Noriega was on to him, him and his group of guys, and they finally caught him And they put him in the Modelo prison, the Model prison.
[01:15:04]  And so he was locked up in there.
[01:15:07]  He was going to probably get executed at some point.
[01:15:10]  We knew he was in there.
[01:15:11]  We knew where he was.
[01:15:12]  But why do we know?
[01:15:12]  Because we were able to send doctors in and do a welfare check.
[01:15:15]  They would come back and go, yeah, this is what they're going to do.
[01:15:17]  So the decision was made when the invasion starts, before the invasion starts, that we would go in as Delta and rescue this guy first, right?
[01:15:24]  Out of the prison.
[01:15:25]  Otherwise, we'll never get to him.
[01:15:26]  So that's how it went down.
[01:15:27]  So it was actually H hour was midnight of December 20th.
[01:15:33]  And we ended up going in at 002 hours, 20 minutes later, because we were compromised.
[01:15:39]  Why were we compromised?
[01:15:39]  Because somebody called home to mommy, said, mommy, I think something's going to happen tonight in Panama.
[01:15:44]  If I don't ever see you again, I love you.
[01:15:45]  A couple guys did that shit, believe it or not.
[01:15:47]  And that's OPSEC violation.
[01:15:48]  And so that got intercepted.
[01:15:50]  She got sent to Noriega.
[01:15:51]  So now we started plusing up the army around the prison and the commandancy, the headquarters, which were right across the street from each other.
[01:15:59]  So now there's a lot of activity.
[01:16:01]  Our snipers call back seven hours out and I go, man, something's going on here.
[01:16:04]  A lot of vehicles, gun trucks showing up, a lot of activity.
[01:16:08]  And oh, yeah, a lot of civilians showing up in their cars and lawn chairs expecting the Mardi Gras parade or something, right?
[01:16:13]  So like, what is going on here?
[01:16:15]  So yeah, it was pretty bad.
[01:16:17]  So the only thing we could do is move our H-hour 20 minutes to the right because what happened was the 82nd Airborne Division, the Rangers, everybody was in the air already flying.
[01:16:27]  There was probably 100 plus aircraft, C-130s, 141s in route, right?
[01:16:32]  So that's a big radar signature.
[01:16:34]  And there's no way we could turn them back at this point.
[01:16:37]  So the operation had to go.
[01:16:39]  Only thing we could do is just shift it right 20 minutes.
[01:16:42]  Maybe that would make a difference.
[01:16:43]  If they thought it was midnight and we don't show up, they might let their guard down.
[01:16:46]  We don't know.
[01:16:47]  But anyways, we did it anyways.
[01:16:49]  And we went in and basically landed on the roof of the prison.
[01:16:54]  It was, again, a total of 15 helicopters.
[01:16:57]  Four helicopters landed.
[01:16:59]  One of them was mine.
[01:17:00]  I was the breacher on this thing.
[01:17:02]  And went in and rescued.
[01:17:04]  I believe the doors opened on the top of the building.
[01:17:06]  And then we went in, started clearing the prison.
[01:17:09]  They actually had if I remember right, 64 prison guards on the ground floor, and they augmented with another 60 or 65 Panamanian Defense Force soldiers.
[01:17:17]  So they had 100 pointed shooters on the ground floor, sandbagging because they were actually expecting a ground assault.
[01:17:22]  They weren't ready for an air assault.
[01:17:24]  So, did this guy you were going in to exfiltrate know you guys were coming?
[01:17:28]  He did not.
[01:17:29]  No.
[01:17:30]  No.
[01:17:30]  In fact, his book is called Six Minutes to Freedom.
[01:17:34]  And he talks about his experience, what happened to him, and what he observed and was able to assess inside the cell when all this was going down.
[01:17:42]  Wow.
[01:17:42]  But yeah, I just did a documentary on this up in New York that's going to come out maybe at the end of the summer on Netflix.
[01:17:50]  It's called SOF True.
[01:17:53]  And that's one of the stories that's going to be talked about because I was the breacher on this thing.
[01:17:57]  So I kind of give the whole detailed version of it.
[01:18:00]  So that'll be out.
[01:18:02]  It's kind of out on Discovery and History Channel, but not full of details.
[01:18:07]  But yeah, so I forgot where I was going with that.
[01:18:12]  But yeah, that was the.
[01:18:12]  Yeah, you were saying you broke through the top and you guys went in there and they.
[01:18:15]  Expected you guys to come from the ground and you guys came from the air.
[01:18:18]  So we breached from the top.
[01:18:19]  I actually was a breacher on it.
[01:18:21]  There's a story.
[01:18:22]  So what happened was, because there's some misinformation out there, and people don't know what they don't know.
[01:18:27]  I'm the only guy in front of this door, literally, raging gunfight.
[01:18:31]  I run out there with my explosives.
[01:18:32]  I precalculated everything, set the charge up.
[01:18:37]  The charge came off the door because we were told by the CIA it was a solid steel door.
[01:18:42]  So I built the charge accordingly.
[01:18:43]  It was about 78 inches long.
[01:18:46]  It was a lot of, it was two pounds of explosives.
[01:18:48]  It's a lot.
[01:18:49]  That's way overkill.
[01:18:50]  But I didn't care because I knew nobody would be on the other side of that cupola when I blew it up, that annex.
[01:18:55]  And when I got there, to my surprise, it was a jail door six inches from the steel door.
[01:19:00]  That wasn't told to me.
[01:19:01]  So now I have these jail bars, and I'm going to try to attach an explosive charge from the top to the bottom, 78 inches long.
[01:19:09]  And guess what I'm losing?
[01:19:10]  I'm losing charge to surface contact because all I got are the bars, right?
[01:19:14]  And the sticky adhesive is not going to stick that well on just the little bars going up there, right?
[01:19:19]  And so what ended up happening was the charge actually fell off the door as I pulled the firing system.
[01:19:26]  And one of the fuse igniters misfired.
[01:19:29]  Okay, no big deal.
[01:19:30]  I turned around, ran back out there, picked it back up, put it back on there, went through the process again, and I pulled the wind, good fuse, igniter.
[01:19:36]  It did finally go.
[01:19:38]  Charge went off, blew the doors in.
[01:19:39]  We went inside, took care of business, and got Kurt Mews out.
[01:19:43]  And within six minutes from the time we executed to lift off, it was six minutes total.
[01:19:49]  And his bird was the first bird to leave the roof and the first bird to get shot down, Kurt Mews.
[01:19:53]  So we put him inside one of the little birds, right?
[01:19:56]  The little flying eggs.
[01:19:57]  And we had two assaulters on each side plus the pilots.
[01:20:00]  And when they lifted off the roof, because the helicopters were so heavy, they have to get a running speed.
[01:20:05]  They can't just lift off.
[01:20:06]  They had to literally get a little bit of clearance off the ground, get forward speed.
[01:20:10]  As they get forward speed, they start getting lift under the rotors, which helps them go up.
[01:20:14]  Well, in this case, the pilot, for whatever reason, couldn't get enough lift.
[01:20:17]  He dived off the roof, which is four stories high, to get a little bit of airspeed.
[01:20:21]  And what he did, he took it up the ass from everybody on the ground floor.
[01:20:24]  They just lit him up, right?
[01:20:25]  And so he goes down the road just a little bit, about a quarter, not even a block, and makes a left turn, hits a power line, gets shot down again, and crashed into the street.
[01:20:35]  Everybody survived.
[01:20:37]  Kurt Mews was the only guy that didn't get hurt on that crash.
[01:20:39]  We had one guy get shot in the chest, one guy get shot in the leg.
[01:20:42]  We had one guy get hit, literally got hit in the head with a rotor strike, took his helmet, chopped his helmet in half.
[01:20:48]  He lived?
[01:20:49]  Yeah.
[01:20:50]  Oh.
[01:20:51]  Dude, he was on medicine.
[01:20:52]  That was his second helicopter crash in a month.
[01:20:55]  And five months later, he was on a helicopter with me again.
[01:20:57]  We crashed again, and that one paralyzed him for life.
[01:21:00]  So he had three helicopter crashes in about six months.
[01:21:02]  And that third one put him, you know, paralyzed him for life.
[01:21:05]  He was my assistant team leader.
[01:21:06]  But, um, But yeah, it was a successful mission.
[01:21:09]  We lost two helicopters.
[01:21:13]  No major casualties.
[01:21:15]  None of our guys got killed.
[01:21:16]  A lot of their guys got killed, but none of our guys got killed.
[01:21:19]  So that was Modelo Prison.
[01:21:21]  And pretty who a night for me.
[01:21:27]  Wow.
[01:21:27]  Yeah.
[01:21:28]  So because what happened was before I went there, I've told this story like 100 times already.
[01:21:33]  What happened was before I went there, I was actually in the Q course, become a Green Beret, right?
[01:21:38]  The Q course?
[01:21:39]  Yes, the qualification course, Special Force qualification.
[01:21:41]  Case, of course, um and so.
[01:21:43]  So the unit released me for six months to go to that court, to training.
[01:21:47]  I got out of training as soon as I showed up I think it was december, something like the 14th or something like that.
[01:21:54]  Um, show up to work and my team was like hey we're, we're rehearsing for this operation that's probably going to go down in Panama.
[01:22:00]  This is what it is.
[01:22:01]  Blah blah, blah.
[01:22:01]  So we're out doing training the first day.
[01:22:03]  I'm out training the very first day, the very first evolution.
[01:22:07]  Um, I get blown up, literally got blown up, got hit in the leg with a flashbang and uh, I got a lot of shrapnel in my leg.
[01:22:13]  I ended up in the hospital.
[01:22:14]  They had a Cut it all open, staple it together, put me back together.
[01:22:18]  And then now I'm on staff duty.
[01:22:20]  So basically my job was to sit in the office, the main office of the building at night and answer the phone when nobody's there, right?
[01:22:28]  So I'm in charge of quarters, so to speak, staff duty, right?
[01:22:30]  So I got to wear a suit, you know, which sucks because I don't know how long I'm going to be laid up like this.
[01:22:36]  And on the December, I think, 16th or 17th, I think it was the 17th, I get a phone call from Joint Special Operations Command on the red phone.
[01:22:45]  I answer it.
[01:22:46]  Hey, this is whatever, JSOC, Blue Spoon's in effect, notify your unit.
[01:22:51]  Alert unit unit.
[01:22:53]  So holy, this is real.
[01:22:54]  So I page everybody in.
[01:22:55]  It was my squadron was on alert.
[01:22:57]  They show up they're, they're loading out, got two hours to get ready and get down range and get on the airplane and leave.
[01:23:03]  And uh, I was debriefing the um, the troop commander.
[01:23:08]  His name was Gary Harold.
[01:23:09]  Uh, general Harold.
[01:23:10]  Now he's, he's passed.
[01:23:11]  But uh, he comes in.
[01:23:12]  I give him the debrief.
[01:23:13]  I said here's what happened sir, here's the intel, blah blah blah, blah.
[01:23:15]  We're gonna do this, they're gonna do that.
[01:23:17]  And then he's like, good to go, okay.
[01:23:18]  So he starts to leave.
[01:23:19]  He walks out the office, he stops, turned around, comes back in.
[01:23:21]  He looks at me.
[01:23:22]  He goes, hey man, he goes look, he goes.
[01:23:24]  I know, you know you got bad leg your crutches.
[01:23:28]  Blah blah, blah.
[01:23:28]  You're going through an ugly divorce again, right?
[01:23:31]  So he's like you know, but he goes.
[01:23:33]  I wouldn't feel right if I didn't invite you to come along.
[01:23:35]  He says you don't have to, obviously you're on profile, but he goes.
[01:23:38]  This is going to be the super bowl man, this is what we've been training for.
[01:23:40]  You're the breacher, you know, you're the guy with explosives.
[01:23:43]  He goes, love to have you.
[01:23:44]  But if you don't understand.
[01:23:46]  And I looked at him.
[01:23:47]  I said you ain't got to ask me twice.
[01:23:49]  Man suit came off.
[01:23:51]  I thought i'm in yeah, I hobbled down to my team room, loaded all my got my flight suit, put my salt boots on and went down range with him.
[01:23:58]  Um, So I never really got to see the target or practice on the target or anything.
[01:24:02]  The first time I actually saw it and practiced on it was when I was on it.
[01:24:05]  And so we're down in Howard Air Force Base.
[01:24:10]  Nobody knows we're there to do anything.
[01:24:11]  They just think we're anybody else.
[01:24:13]  They're training and stuff.
[01:24:14]  And we're building charges, kind of going through all the planning.
[01:24:17]  And then the night when we did the assault, I had the medics come and take all the staples out of my leg and tape it up really good because I don't want to rip it while I'm running around the roof.
[01:24:25]  So it fixed me up pretty good.
[01:24:27]  And then there it is.
[01:24:30]  And I'm now the preacher on this target.
[01:24:32]  Now it was interesting.
[01:24:35]  So we were flying Task Force 160.
[01:24:37]  They're probably the best, no doubt the best helicopter pilots in the world.
[01:24:40]  Special Operations Aviation Regiment, SOAR.
[01:24:43]  And so we were flying little birds.
[01:24:48]  You've probably seen the little flying eggs with the little pods on the outside.
[01:24:50]  Guys are sitting on the outside.
[01:24:51]  They're strapped in, right?
[01:24:52]  Okay.
[01:24:53]  Those are 86s.
[01:24:54]  Now, at that time, those particular helicopters, as I was told by one of the pilots, had the same engines they put in irrigation sprinkler systems for like farm fields, right?
[01:25:07]  So they, you know, the big spirit.
[01:25:08]  Sprinklers, right?
[01:25:09]  They have a motor that runs all that stuff.
[01:25:10]  Well, it's the same motor they put in the helicopter.
[01:25:13]  So I was like, so we're flying on a sprinkler.
[01:25:15]  Right?
[01:25:15]  And he goes, and it doesn't have a lot of power, enough to squirt water, but not really, you know, carry a lot of weight.
[01:25:21]  So that was like one of the, you know, earlier generations.
[01:25:23]  So the problem was we're going to infill with a lot of equipment, four guys on each helicopter, two by two on the pods, plus our armor, our gear, explosives.
[01:25:34]  We're bringing in other, you know, other breaching tools like thermal torches, you know, a a lot of stuff right, just in case we can't get in cutting torches, cutting saws.
[01:25:45]  And so what we realized right away was we're going to exceed the aircraft load the acl is what they call it.
[01:25:50]  Right, too much weight, so like well, we can't give up any.
[01:25:54]  We didn't even carry water.
[01:25:55]  We had no water.
[01:25:56]  It's like we got nothing else we can strip.
[01:25:57]  In fact, they um weighed every operator.
[01:26:01]  Get a baseline.
[01:26:01]  See what our weights are.
[01:26:02]  I was a, I was the lightest guy, with 70 pounds of on my ass, 70 pounds man and um, and I was a small dude at times.
[01:26:09]  I was 164 pounds, so I was the lightest guy.
[01:26:12]  So what they did was, Okay, we're going to have to strip avionics out of these helicopters, right?
[01:26:17]  So they just pulled stuff out they didn't need.
[01:26:19]  Just, you know, you don't need that.
[01:26:21]  What is it?
[01:26:22]  Compass?
[01:26:22]  Yeah, you don't need that.
[01:26:23]  Just fly in that direction, right?
[01:26:24]  Just out, out, out, out.
[01:26:25]  And it still wasn't enough for two of the helicopters.
[01:26:27]  Guess what they did?
[01:26:28]  They removed a pilot out of each helicopter.
[01:26:30]  So two of the helicopters only had one pilot, and two of them had two pilots.
[01:26:34]  Yeah.
[01:26:34]  And guess what?
[01:26:35]  The two pilots, the two helicopters had two pilots, each had one pilot get shot.
[01:26:39]  Oh, my God.
[01:26:40]  So, yeah, there was, yeah, they did everything they could just to skeletonize this thing, right?
[01:26:47]  So they could get the airframe up.
[01:26:48]  And even then, it was still a little too heavy.
[01:26:50]  That's why we had to get these running starts.
[01:26:52]  Yep.
[01:26:52]  And we couldn't just sink it and land.
[01:26:53]  We had to come in really slow and float it down.
[01:26:56]  But it worked.
[01:26:57]  And, you know, they're much stronger today and more dynamic.
[01:27:00]  But at that time, that's what we had to work with.
[01:27:02]  So good.
[01:27:04]  But yeah, it was a great night.
[01:27:07]  Honestly, when I think about it, it's like all our training, everything I ever dreamed of about being in the unit happened that night.
[01:27:15]  Man, we made history.
[01:27:16]  You know, this is big, man.
[01:27:18]  How many guys were you with total?
[01:27:20]  A total of 26 of us.
[01:27:22]  26.
[01:27:22]  So we had guys stay on the roof.
[01:27:24]  And engage targets from the roof, like the towers across to the Commandancia.
[01:27:28]  And then we had two assault teams my team and one other team go inside, so we had told about 11 guys actually go in to the building looking for them and clearing it.
[01:27:37]  Remember we got 120 something dudes on the ground floor.
[01:27:39]  They're waiting for us.
[01:27:40]  Now here's a yeah, so we get in.
[01:27:42]  We finally get to Kurt Mews.

=== OODA Loop in Combat (11:46) ===

[01:27:44]  Um and um there, the the interrogator was there.
[01:27:50]  With him was given instructions that if you hear any gunfire, if you think they're coming, just go in there and let the air out of Kurt Mews.
[01:27:57]  Right, kill them.
[01:27:57]  That was his instructions.
[01:27:58]  We knew that because the doctors told us that.
[01:28:00]  And so we knew we had to hurry.
[01:28:03]  So as we get in the door, there were other guards already down there, right?
[01:28:08]  And they just didn't want nothing to do with this thing.
[01:28:10]  They just dropped their shit and lay down on the floor and just went prone.
[01:28:12]  And I was like, I don't want to fight, right?
[01:28:13]  So they didn't fight and we didn't kill them, okay?
[01:28:15]  We just flexed out of them and said, okay, you're out of play.
[01:28:20]  When the team actually breached the door with the interrogator and Kurt Mewson, so think of it, one big room and then you got a jail cell room.
[01:28:28]  moose in it, right?
[01:28:29]  So when they breached the main door, the interrogator grabbed his handgun and ran.
[01:28:34]  There was a small shower stall.
[01:28:35]  I actually have a picture of it, but he got in the shower stall and he stood there with his hands up, gun up, ready to shoot anybody coming through the door.
[01:28:44]  Now, one of the guys, his name was James.
[01:28:47]  James is also gone, but James saw him run in, so he runs right after him, chases him into the shower.
[01:28:52]  James has got a car 15.
[01:28:53]  This dude's waiting for him to come in, and James shoots the guy in the chest four times and kills him.
[01:28:57]  The guy never got a shot off.
[01:28:59]  It just drops them right there.
[01:28:59]  Boom, There's a reason that happens, by the way.
[01:29:04]  This might be something that might interest some of the listeners out there.
[01:29:07]  There's a thing called general adaption syndrome, right?
[01:29:09]  Or stress shock phenomena.
[01:29:11]  And so what happens is, basically, this guy went into stress shock phenomena and he didn't know what to do, right?
[01:29:19]  So there's different responses to stress.
[01:29:22]  There's fight, there's flight, there's freezing, there's basically fainting, submission.
[01:29:29]  There's different responses, right?
[01:29:32]  The only real to me, the only real response is either run or you fight, right?
[01:29:36]  Everything else is a non-starter, right?
[01:29:38]  So it's going to get you killed.
[01:29:39]  But the problem was the guy was standing in there and he was trying to figure out what he's going to do and he wasn't prepared to fight, right?
[01:29:48]  He hadn't made the decision in his mind that he's ready to pull the trigger and kill a man.
[01:29:51]  There's another aspect of it called resolving your own death.
[01:29:54]  If you've never resolved your own death, in other words, if you go into combat and you're not prepared to die that day, you're probably going to not perform like you need to, right?
[01:30:03]  So you're going to hesitate or you're going to balk.
[01:30:06]  And there's a lot of studies that support this thing.
[01:30:09]  How does one be prepared to die?
[01:30:11]  Well, it's called resolving your own death.
[01:30:13]  That's the most important one, right?
[01:30:14]  So for example, if I was a police officer, right, every day I go leave my house, kiss my wife goodbye, I'm prepared not to come back, right?
[01:30:23]  That might be my last day on the job.
[01:30:25]  But not only am I prepared not to come back, I also know I did everything I'm supposed to do to make sure my wife and kids are taken care of.
[01:30:32]  So if I am gone, they've got insurance, everything's paid for, everything's caught up, right?
[01:30:35]  So that's called, so I know I can, I won't hesitate in that one moment where I'm like, oh shit, I didn't pay for the, you know, the insurance this month or whatever, right?
[01:30:45]  Or maybe I haven't made.
[01:30:47]  Peace with you know, god or whatever it is I believe in right.
[01:30:49]  I'm still sitting on the fence and i've seen guys hesitate like no, no wait, and bam, you're dead.
[01:30:55]  Anyways, like you know, it's too late man, you either rate a fight or you're not, and most guys are not they're, they just haven't resolved their death, right and um, and they're so they're not committed.
[01:31:06]  And uh, this guy wasn't committed and there's there's another aspect to it.
[01:31:10]  So, anytime you're you know you've heard of startle reflex somebody comes and goes boo, right.
[01:31:14]  So what happens is, in that boo phase, you have got to go from um, the sedentary Stage, state that you're in, right?
[01:31:24]  Like right now, we're kind of like relaxed.
[01:31:25]  So, if some dude just walks in right now with a 12 gauge and opens up, guess what's going to happen?
[01:31:30]  You and I have to switch gears from this.
[01:31:32]  We're going to have to go from fifth gear to cruising.
[01:31:34]  We're going to have to downshift to third gear, right?
[01:31:36]  We're going to have to secrete epinephrine, norepinephrine, cortisol.
[01:31:39]  There's a lot of things that have to happen in our body to prepare to either run or to fight, okay?
[01:31:45]  And so that's going to take some time.
[01:31:48]  What?
[01:31:48]  I don't know, hundreds of a second.
[01:31:49]  But when we're talking about fighting and combat, every Tenth of a second, hundredth of a second matters, right?
[01:31:56]  And so you're still behind the eight ball.
[01:31:59]  When that guy surprises you, you're actually now playing catch up, right?
[01:32:03]  So in the military, we have three tenets for combat surprise, speed, violence of action.
[01:32:09]  Surprise, speed, violence of action.
[01:32:10]  I actually have four surprise, speed, violence of action, and momentum, all right?
[01:32:15]  That's the last one I put in and I have a reason for it.
[01:32:18]  But so surprise, when you surprise somebody, what happens is you put them in this stress shock phenomenon, this general adaptions, right?
[01:32:25]  They got to go through this.
[01:32:26]  by this physiological change to prepare to run or fight.
[01:32:29]  Well, while they're going through that, which only takes a little bit of time, they're still behind the eight ball and the other guy's got the advantage on you.
[01:32:36]  And if you can never, if you never can, the only way you can overcome that guy is you've got to surprise him.
[01:32:44]  So you have to do something unexpected he wasn't ready for, right?
[01:32:47]  So maybe guy comes with a shotgun, he takes a shot and I throw his hot coffee thing at him, right?
[01:32:52]  That's unexpected.
[01:32:53]  So he's going to duck and dodge.
[01:32:55]  So now he's, I've kind of taken him out of the fight.
[01:32:57]  Right.
[01:32:57]  So I was in what we call the OODA loop.
[01:32:59]  I was in his OODA loop and now I put him back into my OODA loop.
[01:33:02]  I don't know if you know what OODA means, but OODA is a term that stands for observe, orient, side act.
[01:33:07]  Okay.
[01:33:08]  So I have to observe, dude, just came with a shotgun.
[01:33:10]  I've got to orient.
[01:33:11]  What am I going to do?
[01:33:12]  I'm going to throw a coffee, you know, this coffee picture at him.
[01:33:14]  Yep.
[01:33:16]  But when I orient, I'm also moving, changing my orientation and making a decision.
[01:33:22]  What am I going to do?
[01:33:23]  And then I have to act.
[01:33:24]  So that's the loop, right?
[01:33:25]  The cycle.
[01:33:26]  Observe, orient, side act.
[01:33:28]  So when he comes to the door and goes, surprise, and he shoots.
[01:33:31]  I'm in his oodle loop.
[01:33:32]  He's making me react everything, right?
[01:33:35]  I'm not controlling him.
[01:33:36]  He's controlling me.
[01:33:37]  I'm no longer controlling the situation.
[01:33:38]  He's controlling the situation, right?
[01:33:40]  What I want to do is control the situation.
[01:33:41]  I want to control him.
[01:33:42]  The only way I can do that is reverse the momentum.
[01:33:45]  Now, how do I do that?
[01:33:47]  Well, maybe I'm lucky he didn't get me with the first shot.
[01:33:50]  I rolled to the floor and I was able to pull my handgun out and take the shot back.
[01:33:53]  So, you know, I reverse the momentum.
[01:33:55]  So these are some principles of combat that, you know, it's not that complicated, but once you understand it, you realize that Combat, like any kind of combat, whether it's armed combat or empty hand combat, a street fight, bar fight, it's all psychological.
[01:34:13]  Yeah.
[01:34:14]  Right.
[01:34:14]  So if you know that the other guy's probably not prepared, right.
[01:34:18]  And even if he is prepared, you could surprise him.
[01:34:22]  And he'll, for example, we used to do force on force training in the unit.
[01:34:25]  Right.
[01:34:25]  So today, let's say all our assault teams are going to go out down to the shoot training area and we're going to do CQB.
[01:34:31]  We're going to clear the rooms, the buildings.
[01:34:33]  Okay.
[01:34:34]  And who's going to be the aggressors?
[01:34:35]  Okay.
[01:34:35]  My team will be the aggressors.
[01:34:36]  So my team is the aggressors.
[01:34:38]  Right.
[01:34:38]  So we're waiting in the rooms.
[01:34:39]  We know the other assault teams out there going to come in.
[01:34:42]  We know that the SOP is because we all live off the same SOP.
[01:34:45]  We know they're going to come in.
[01:34:45]  We know what they're going to do.
[01:34:46]  They're going to shoot them with sim munitions, right?
[01:34:48]  Or wax bullets or whatever.
[01:34:49]  They're going to throw flashbangs in.
[01:34:50]  And we're standing ready for them.
[01:34:52]  And guess what?
[01:34:54]  They come in and they still win the fight.
[01:34:55]  You know why?
[01:34:56]  Because they got the element of surprise.
[01:34:57]  Even though I know they're out there, they throw a flashbang in.
[01:35:00]  And then the other element of surprise is speed.
[01:35:04]  They move so fast and so fluid that I can't decide who I want to shoot first in that tenth of a second.
[01:35:08]  And while I'm trying to make the decision, shoot that guy, the other guy's already shot me, right?
[01:35:12]  So even when they have the element of surprise and we're aware of it, they can still win because they're using this speed, these volleys of action, and they're basically overwhelming you.
[01:35:24]  And I call it momentum.
[01:35:25]  They're going to basically keep running you over until you can't get up no more, right?
[01:35:27]  It's like, you know, so it can be the same thing in a bar fight.
[01:35:31]  You know, you got a guy, you know, bowing up on you and he wants to fight.
[01:35:35]  You know, it's going to turn into a fight, okay?
[01:35:39]  The fastest way to end that fight besides, well, I would not necessarily say walk away because you might get hit in the back of the head.
[01:35:46]  But let's just say you can't get out of the situation.
[01:35:48]  You know, it's going to become a fight.
[01:35:51]  The best thing you can do, I think, is initiate, right?
[01:35:54]  Surprise him with something.
[01:35:55]  And there's different ways to surprise him.
[01:35:56]  Like, for example, you know, you can kind of take, hey, man, I don't want to fight, blah, Maybe spit in his face.
[01:36:01]  He'd be like, what?
[01:36:02]  And then boom, forearm strike, right?
[01:36:04]  You know, or you're holding a bottle in your hand, hey, man, and you just kind of drop it.
[01:36:07]  He watches it fall.
[01:36:08]  He's watching it fall.
[01:36:09]  Bam, you left upper hook, right?
[01:36:10]  Uppercut.
[01:36:11]  So you can still do surprise even in that scenario.
[01:36:15]  And once you do that, here's what I found is, especially if you embarrass the other guy, and I've done this before, like really big guys.
[01:36:23]  They'll be talking all kinds of shit with all their friends, and then I just slap them like a woman, man.
[01:36:27]  Right?
[01:36:28]  And why do I do that?
[01:36:30]  Because it enrages guys.
[01:36:31]  When you get slapped, and it's a loud noise in front of everybody, it stings, your nose runs, your eyes water, and it just takes you aback for a second because you really thought a man would punch me.
[01:36:43]  Why did he slap me?
[01:36:44]  He stinks like a little bitch.
[01:36:45]  That's why, right?
[01:36:46]  It's almost an insult, but it happens very fast.
[01:36:49]  And then what happens is they get really, really angry, right?
[01:36:53]  They just lose, I'm going to kill you, right?
[01:36:55]  And they try to hit you with everything but the kick.
[01:36:56]  And sick.
[01:36:57]  But here's the thing, we in boxing so I used to be a professional boxer as well i've got two six degree black belts, first degree black.
[01:37:03]  I'm going on.
[01:37:04]  Wow, I know, I know how to fight right, i've been fighting all my life and so what happens is so when a guy gets really mad like that and becomes enraged, what he does?
[01:37:12]  He just he wants to crush you, he just wants to kill, he wants to hit you as hard as he can.
[01:37:16]  In boxing we have a saying, if it feels strong, it's wrong.
[01:37:20]  In other words, the harder you try to hit a guy, the less effective you're going to be right.
[01:37:23]  Speed's what kills, so the faster and looser I can draw a punch.
[01:37:27]  It's like a whip.
[01:37:29]  More likely, I'm going to hurt you, especially to the head.
[01:37:30]  I'm going to get, I'm going to get this, get a knock you out, give you a concussion, right?
[01:37:35]  And so, and not only that, when you really try to hit somebody really hard, what's happening is you're actually tensing all the muscles to include the muscles required to retract that punch are already engaged.
[01:37:47]  So it feels strong, like, yeah, but there's no heat on it, right?
[01:37:51]  And so the guys I've always knocked out, I didn't even know I hit them.
[01:37:54]  I just started throwing some punches out of it, and it's like, huh?
[01:37:57]  I didn't even feel it, right?
[01:37:58]  Because speed.
[01:38:00]  So, So if I can get a guy that's, if I slap a guy and get him losing his mind, if he's really big, he'll try to rely on his strength and he's just going to get really slow and I'm just going to eat him up, man.
[01:38:12]  I fought a guy one time.
[01:38:14]  This was actually a control fight.
[01:38:16]  He weighed 300 pounds.
[01:38:18]  He was a North Carolina powerlifting champion.
[01:38:21]  And I weighed 164 pounds.
[01:38:23]  And he just thought, yeah, I can kick this guy's ass all day long.
[01:38:26]  So let's do this, right?
[01:38:28]  So, man, so the first thing I did is I took him to ground, right?
[01:38:34]  And he could not beat me on the ground, right?
[01:38:36]  I was just too cagey for him.
[01:38:38]  He didn't have any jiu-jitsu skills at all.
[01:38:40]  I have a first degree black belt in jiu-jitsu.
[01:38:41]  Really?
[01:38:41]  And, yeah, and he, he just couldn't do it right, he's just too strong started gassing out, you know.
[01:38:46]  And then uh, if I just no, I didn't choke him out actually, I got back to my feet, because I don't like choking guys out, I like knocking them out.
[01:38:52]  So I get back and throw a roundhouse kick, crack his nose, break his nose.
[01:38:55]  He's bleeding all over the place, you know, and he's like, and now he's really, really mad right, it's like this little guy just beat my ass.
[01:39:00]  Okay man, we can do this all day long, or we just, you know, shake hands and let's, let's, do some training now, you know but um, you know, speed kills if it feels strong, strong.
[01:39:09]  These are, these are things to remember.
[01:39:11]  Um, and it's not about how big and strong you are, it's about mindset right, particularly combat mindset, And there is a big difference.
[01:39:19]  And, you know, I beat guys that, you know, that just, you know, you just thought they're going to eat me alive, man.
[01:39:26]  They're so mean and aggressive.
[01:39:27]  But once you check them real fast, it's all over, man.

=== Breaking a Nose in Self-Defense (08:06) ===

[01:39:31]  So combat, you know, the OODA loop, all these things apply through the spectrum of combat, whether it's armed combat, unarmed combat, street fights, combat, you know.
[01:39:41]  Right.
[01:39:42]  Hold that thought.
[01:39:42]  I got to take a leak.
[01:39:43]  Yep.
[01:39:44]  How did you transition from doing these?
[01:39:48]  these strategic combat operations into being a mercenary.
[01:39:54]  And how do you define a mercenary?
[01:39:56]  Okay.
[01:39:58]  Yeah, so let me kind of, all right, so let me continue on kind of where I left off earlier.
[01:40:01]  So I did the OGA thing concurrently.
[01:40:05]  I actually ran a couple of companies, mine.
[01:40:08]  Actually, I was a CEO for another company.
[01:40:10]  They were paying me quite a bit of money just to have my resume.
[01:40:12]  And then finally, I decided one day that, you know, the ambush, I said, you know, I think it's time to hang it up.
[01:40:18]  So two things happened.
[01:40:19]  One, Another company bought my company.
[01:40:23]  And two, I literally got discovered by Discovery Channel.
[01:40:25]  Like, no shit.
[01:40:27]  So they're calling me, wanting to know if I'd be on this TV show called One Man Army.
[01:40:31]  And I thought, yeah, why not?
[01:40:33]  That'd be kind of cool.
[01:40:33]  It'd be like a one-off, right?
[01:40:34]  I thought, kind of close a chapter of my life because I thought from here on, it's going to be doing just civilian stuff.
[01:40:40]  Man, was I ever wrong?
[01:40:42]  So I did Discovery Channel.
[01:40:44]  Then next thing you know, I get called by NBC.
[01:40:46]  They're like, hey, we like what we saw.
[01:40:48]  Would you like doing this?
[01:40:49]  And now I'm on TV with Terry Cruz, a whole lot of other people, Stars and Stripes.
[01:40:53]  Oh, yeah.
[01:40:54]  I remember seeing this.
[01:40:54]  Yeah.
[01:40:55]  You were doing something with Chris Kyle.
[01:40:57]  Chris Kyle.
[01:40:57]  Yep.
[01:40:58]  And then from there, I actually spent another couple of years in Hollywood doing different shows and movies and stunts.
[01:41:05]  And then I got to a point where I'm like, hmm, this is not what I like.
[01:41:09]  This is not what I do.
[01:41:10]  You know, it's kind of, it's not me.
[01:41:12]  And so although I was getting paid pretty good money and I was, I was, they were encouraging me to stay out there is what I say.
[01:41:18]  When I say they, producers and my management team, like if you could be here all the time, we could have you on a set every day and you could possibly be the next Danny Treyo.
[01:41:28]  And i'm like that ugly well, he's making a lot of money, i'll be the ugly guy, but uh um, so anyways, I just couldn't see living out in California um, so I ended up moving to Hong Kong and I was part of a detail securing a multi-billionaire investment banker.
[01:41:46]  Um wow, yeah and uh, so it's kind of cool.
[01:41:49]  So i'm living in Hong Kong um, covering down on this guy, and how'd this guy get a hold of you?
[01:41:54]  Well, it's through another firm right.
[01:41:56]  So they actually had the contract, but they're actually.
[01:41:59]  It was actually former Delta guy, one of the original plank holders, right?
[01:42:04]  And so I forget how he heard about me or knew I was looking for a job.
[01:42:08]  I can't remember.
[01:42:08]  But anyways, through the network, he calls me up, hey, come on over.
[01:42:11]  So I did.
[01:42:13]  So I spent some time over there.
[01:42:14]  I met my wife.
[01:42:15]  She's Indonesian over there.
[01:42:17]  She went back to Indonesia.
[01:42:19]  You know, I ended up following her back because that's what dudes do, right?
[01:42:23]  Hell yeah.
[01:42:24]  Up into my life now.
[01:42:26]  It actually turned out to be a good story.
[01:42:27]  So I ended up, actually, I was going back and forth for a long time, several years.
[01:42:31]  I'd go for three weeks, come back for three weeks, back, forth, back, forth, back, forth.
[01:42:35]  And all I was doing was hanging out with her.
[01:42:37]  And so, Finally, I saw some opportunities in Indonesia, particularly in Jakarta for security, right?
[01:42:45]  There's really hardly any Americans over there.
[01:42:47]  And so I thought, well, maybe I could start a security business here.
[01:42:52]  And so I got on Facebook on a social media site called Tactical Indonesia.
[01:42:58]  Say, hey guys, it's me, American badass.
[01:43:00]  Here's my book, you know, and introduced myself.
[01:43:04]  They didn't know who I was.
[01:43:05]  Didn't matter.
[01:43:06]  But they didn't see the book.
[01:43:07]  So next thing you know, I'm meeting people on the internet, Facebook.
[01:43:11]  And I come back to Chicard and I'm meeting all kinds of people, some pretty prominent people, including another billionaire.
[01:43:17]  And next thing I know, he wants me to build a canine company for him, like canine security, because he knew about my background.
[01:43:26]  I've been training canines for like 45 years.
[01:43:28]  And so really long story short, we did ultimately come together as partners.
[01:43:36]  I built the program.
[01:43:38]  In fact, in three months, I had the program already.
[01:43:41]  Working, I had teams and dogs already working at the Indonesian Stock Exchange.
[01:43:46]  What were they like off sniffing explosives?
[01:43:48]  Yeah, explosive patrol dogs, right?
[01:43:50]  Um, how do you train a dog to learn how to detect explosives?
[01:43:54]  That's another, that's an art, man.
[01:43:56]  Um, it's an art.
[01:43:58]  I'll cover that here in a minute as well.
[01:43:59]  Um, we'll say that's it because it's interesting because it applies to humans, and there's something to be, I think, there's a lot of insight that I think will be valuable for people to know.
[01:44:09]  Um, so long story short, um, he and I had a falling out, he owes me a lot of money.
[01:44:14]  as far as I'm concerned.
[01:44:15]  And I ended up being the, you know, what they call the boule.
[01:44:19]  Boules are white guys, right?
[01:44:20]  So, yeah, yeah.
[01:44:23]  Anyways, so I'm the boule.
[01:44:24]  I don't have a chance.
[01:44:25]  Like, what are you going to do, right?
[01:44:26]  This guy's like super powerful.
[01:44:27]  So are all his friends, right?
[01:44:29]  And so I ended up packing everything up with my wife.
[01:44:33]  And actually, we had two police trucks show up, load all our shit on it, drove us to Bali within two days.
[01:44:39]  Wow.
[01:44:40]  And within 30 days, I had a home.
[01:44:41]  I had an office.
[01:44:42]  I had my first contract with Marriott Hotels.
[01:44:45]  Within eight months, I had eight Marriott Hotels under my belt.
[01:44:47]  So we got running 247, 365 ops, pull security at all their gates with canines.
[01:44:53]  Then I had some of the local venues, which I'm still with them today.
[01:44:56]  So we built a pretty robust canine company over there.
[01:45:00]  And it's been running for over seven years now.
[01:45:02]  In fact, it runs itself.
[01:45:04]  My wife manages it because I told her after we built it, I was like, you know what?
[01:45:08]  You better take this because I'll wreck it because I get bored really fast.
[01:45:11]  I built something and I'll just let it languish, right?
[01:45:14]  And just let it go.
[01:45:15]  I said, you should have this, right?
[01:45:17]  And run it.
[01:45:17]  It's, you know, in case I die or whatever.
[01:45:19]  So.
[01:45:20]  I gave her that company.
[01:45:21]  She runs it really well.
[01:45:22]  At one point, we had about $850,000 worth of canines operating.
[01:45:26]  We had 65 full-time canine handlers.
[01:45:30]  Doing pretty well.
[01:45:31]  What kind of dogs?
[01:45:32]  Over there, I usually use mostly Malinois, Dutch Shepherds, Malinois.
[01:45:37]  And I got a few rots that I use for patrol dogs.
[01:45:41]  Basically, Indonesians are pretty small, right?
[01:45:43]  I'm like a giant over there compared to them, and I'm not that big.
[01:45:46]  But, you know, on average, they're pretty small, these security guys.
[01:45:50]  And then we have one particular bar that's they bring in about 5,000 people tonight.
[01:45:55]  It's a beach bar.
[01:45:56]  And on New Year's Eve, it's 10,000.
[01:45:57]  That's capacity.
[01:45:58]  That's all they can have.
[01:45:59]  And so.
[01:46:01]  What kind of people?
[01:46:02]  Are they all indigenous?
[01:46:03]  A lot of tourists?
[01:46:03]  No, they're all expats, tourists, right?
[01:46:05]  A lot of tourists.
[01:46:06]  A lot of Australians, Russians.
[01:46:08]  A lot of people surf in Bali.
[01:46:09]  Everybody's there, right?
[01:46:10]  So it's a mixed bag, but usually it's the age groups anywhere from 18, on average 18 to 40, you know?
[01:46:18]  Okay.
[01:46:19]  Unless you're a dinosaur like me, but 18 to 40.
[01:46:22]  And, dude, hot-ass chicks here.
[01:46:25]  That's all I can tell you.
[01:46:26]  Okay.
[01:46:26]  So when you got chicks running around in thawing bikinis with big boobies and you got all these dudes jacked on testosterone and you throw alcohol in there, there's going to be drama, man.
[01:46:34]  Somewhere in the middle of the night in one of those swimming pools, there's four of them there.
[01:46:38]  Something's going to happen.
[01:46:38]  It does all the time.
[01:46:39]  Lots of drama, right?
[01:46:41]  And so my dogs are force multipliers because I can give my Indonesian guy a Rottweiler that's almost as big as him, and he's got basically a three or four man team now, right?
[01:46:50]  And so he's got the psychological advantage.
[01:46:52]  And even my mountain was the same way, yeah.
[01:46:54]  So, but the Rots kind of serve that purpose, but they are uh explosive detector dogs, but they don't do really well in the heat and humidity there.
[01:47:01]  It's very hot and humid, um, but anyways, um, so that business is like I said, thriving.
[01:47:08]  Um, I do a lot of other consulting work in the security space, um, in fact.
[01:47:13]  My wife and I own a bar over there, a billiards bar.
[01:47:16]  And actually, I just opened up a third company that deals with mining, gold mining, things like that.
[01:47:22]  But so that's kind of what I do there in our business.
[01:47:28]  So in the space of security, I farm myself out sometimes.
[01:47:33]  I get phone calls from people and said, hey, I got an issue.
[01:47:36]  Can you fix it?

=== Independent Security Contractor Work (15:07) ===

[01:47:37]  Right.
[01:47:37]  What I don't do is I don't go.
[01:47:39]  I'm not fighting Ukraine.
[01:47:40]  I'm not fighting for going to work for Blackwater.
[01:47:42]  I'm an independent.
[01:47:43]  And so, and I do niche work, like special projects, for example.
[01:47:49]  I'll give you, I'll name three.
[01:47:51]  And they all happen within a month of each or within two months total.
[01:47:55]  So guy calls me, goes, Hey, my 17 year old daughter, she's in Guatemala.
[01:48:00]  A bunch of men are trying to kill her, rob her, her and her girlfriends.
[01:48:04]  They thought it was a good idea to go on a school girls trip to Guatemala for whatever, from Switzerland to Guatemala, right?
[01:48:09]  And now they're in trouble.
[01:48:10]  He goes, Can you get my daughter out?
[01:48:12]  I said, sure.
[01:48:13]  He goes, Or do you know anybody can get her out?
[01:48:14]  I go, if I tell anybody.
[01:48:16]  About your daughter, who you're, who you are, who's a multi, multi.
[01:48:19]  He's mega rich dude yeah, 45 years old.
[01:48:22]  Um, it was a Merchant Company, Merchant Marine Company.
[01:48:25]  Yeah anyways, I said you ain't gonna get her back for not easy, right.
[01:48:30]  So he goes.
[01:48:31]  So I said i'll tell you what i'll go do it.
[01:48:32]  I know the guy.
[01:48:33]  I've worked for him before, i've done stuff for him before.
[01:48:35]  In fact, he used to fly me to Singapore to train his German shepherd.
[01:48:38]  Really right yeah yeah, what a deal.
[01:48:41]  I'd fly over there for a week, train his dog, hang out, you know, come back another week train his dog some more.
[01:48:45]  That's how I got to know him and uh, he's had me do some other stuff for him.
[01:48:49]  But So in this particular case, I knew his daughter.
[01:48:53]  I said, listen, man, I'll go get your daughter, man.
[01:48:55]  And because I don't trust nobody else at this point.
[01:48:59]  So he paid me a lot of money, a lot of money.
[01:49:02]  And so I flew over.
[01:49:04]  So I left on a Monday morning.
[01:49:05]  He called me Sunday night.
[01:49:06]  I left Monday morning, like at one o'clock, flew to the Philippines, ended up in LAX.
[01:49:11]  And by seven o'clock that night with the time change, I'm in Guatemala, in the capital, right?
[01:49:16]  Atlanta, poof.
[01:49:17]  And so she had instructions.
[01:49:19]  So I've already got her on my WhatsApp.
[01:49:21]  Right with him on there.
[01:49:22]  And the mom.
[01:49:23]  I said, I need you to meet me at this location.
[01:49:25]  Can you do that?
[01:49:26]  Yes, so she meets me at the airport, but she doesn't have her stuff with her right, she's coming in from another area.
[01:49:31]  I said, just meet me here.
[01:49:32]  So I took her.
[01:49:33]  We went to a Marriott hotel.
[01:49:35]  I had the rooms booked.
[01:49:36]  I put her in a room, make sure she had her food and water.
[01:49:38]  I said now, I said when I lock this door, you don't leave.
[01:49:40]  You, hear me, you don't come out for nothing.
[01:49:42]  I don't care what it is, don't leave the room.
[01:49:45]  Yes, sir.
[01:49:46]  So she stayed there and I had to go.
[01:49:48]  I had to catch um like an uber um, and I drive up in these mountains.
[01:49:52]  That's where they were staying.
[01:49:53]  So When they planned this trip, these chicks, right, these high school girls, they thought it was a good idea.
[01:49:57]  Let's go to Guatemala, right?
[01:49:59]  And so they pick a, what do you call it?
[01:50:02]  A hostel, right?
[01:50:03]  But it's like up in the hills in the mountainous area and it's pitch black up there.
[01:50:08]  There's no light.
[01:50:09]  It's bad.
[01:50:09]  It's like really scary shit.
[01:50:12]  And the night they checked in, as soon as they checked in, dudes were coming through the windows trying to kick in the doors and attacking all the girls and stuff, right?
[01:50:20]  And so I got to go there to recover her suitcase.
[01:50:25]  So I had the address and everything and I'm driving up there and I'm like, you got to be kidding.
[01:50:29]  Who thought this was a good idea?
[01:50:31]  Right.
[01:50:31]  So finally, I do get to the hotel if you want to call that.
[01:50:35]  It was a hostel.
[01:50:37]  The guy had her suitcase and I grabbed her suitcase.
[01:50:39]  I brought it back and it was probably about four in the morning by the time I got back at this point.
[01:50:45]  And I roused her out of bed.
[01:50:46]  I said, grab your shit.
[01:50:46]  Let's go.
[01:50:47]  And I took it to the airport.
[01:50:48]  We caught the next thing smoking within a couple hours.
[01:50:51]  And I delivered her to her mom and dad in Singapore Thursday morning.
[01:50:55]  So I left Monday night in Bali Thursday morning, same time zone.
[01:51:00]  Wow.
[01:51:01]  I handed her off, right?
[01:51:02]  So that's the example of some of the work I do.
[01:51:05]  Had another no more like surprise, kill, vanish type stuff.
[01:51:11]  Not that I can talk about it.
[01:51:13]  Hey, I got to be careful, man.
[01:51:16]  That's why I won't mention some countries either.
[01:51:18]  Like this next one, I won't mention the country because I may have to go back there.
[01:51:21]  Yeah.
[01:51:22]  So I had another guy call me.
[01:51:25]  He was listening to my podcast.
[01:51:28]  So he's an American and he actually lives in Bali.
[01:51:31]  He's been there for like 20 something years.
[01:51:32]  He's a surfer.
[01:51:34]  Really good guy.
[01:51:35]  Never been in the military.
[01:51:36]  So he meets this girl from Vietnam, gets her pregnant, goes to Vietnam, thinks they're going to get married and have the kids.
[01:51:44]  And she's got other plans.
[01:51:45]  She's like, no, we're not getting married yes, i'm having the kids, and that's it, you know.
[01:51:49]  And so anyways, they go through court for all this crap.
[01:51:53]  Um, did I say that?
[01:51:55]  Did I mention the country?
[01:51:56]  Yeah no, I don't think you did.
[01:51:57]  No, I didn't mention the country.
[01:51:58]  Okay, it's a different country.
[01:52:00]  Um so anyway, long story short, she wouldn't let him see the kids.
[01:52:02]  So he goes through an agency um, that would actually make the arrangements so he could see the kid.
[01:52:07]  He spent a lot of money, no arrangements were made.
[01:52:09]  He goes.
[01:52:10]  Hey man, come on, he goes.
[01:52:11]  Oh, you got to pay more money.
[01:52:12]  He goes, I already paid you money.
[01:52:13]  They're like, oh, you're arguing with us.
[01:52:15]  So they actually had his passport flagged at immigration right, so he couldn't travel.
[01:52:20]  They pulled his visa and he can't work, he can't leave, he can't work.
[01:52:22]  It's called a velvet cage.
[01:52:23]  He's not the only guy i've had in this position.
[01:52:25]  I had another guy in Dubai.
[01:52:27]  Same thing happened to him, and so they're trapped in these, what we call.
[01:52:31]  You know, I don't know, Vietnam would be a velvet cage, Dubai might be, but not uh, Vietnam.
[01:52:35]  But anyways um, so long story short, he's like, can you get me out and I said, yeah, I can get you out, but we're gonna have to do some talking, some planning and stuff like that.
[01:52:46]  So um, Long story short, I got him out.
[01:52:51]  I can't tell you how I did it because I can't give that secret up.
[01:52:54]  But basically, I didn't have to do anything with paperwork.
[01:52:57]  I didn't forge nothing like that.
[01:52:59]  It was really easy.
[01:53:00]  Just walked him out.
[01:53:02]  It's actually a walk.
[01:53:03]  I could have swam him out too.
[01:53:05]  There were two options.
[01:53:06]  I had another guy that his wife calls me and he gets kidnapped in Saudi Arabia.
[01:53:12]  And she goes, can you find my husband?
[01:53:13]  He's been kidnapped.
[01:53:14]  How long has he been gone?
[01:53:15]  A year?
[01:53:16]  What?
[01:53:16]  A year, right?
[01:53:17]  So something wasn't adding up.
[01:53:19]  Then I find out later after I'm in country, he's a billionaire.
[01:53:25]  You're telling me this guy's a billionaire and he got kidnapped in Noble, and you just now telling me?
[01:53:29]  She goes, yeah.
[01:53:30]  Then I find out he's actually in a prison called Daman Prison, right?
[01:53:35]  And there's a lot of expats in there, by the way.
[01:53:37]  He's not expat.
[01:53:37]  He's actually got dual citizenship, which is British and Saudi.
[01:53:41]  And so while I'm there, I've got a couple of guys with me, and all we need to do is confirm where he's at.
[01:53:46]  We know we think he's in the prison.
[01:53:48]  We just need to confirm he's in the prison.
[01:53:49]  Right.
[01:53:50]  Right.
[01:53:50]  And so, but what we can't do as tourists, we can't actually actively do stuff like that because that would be considered like work and we'll end up in Daman prison too, like for a very long time, like a lot of these guys without ever getting a day in court.
[01:54:03]  Right.
[01:54:03]  And so, so as I started doing my research, I realized this dude's dad is a minister of oil and energy for Saudi Arabia.
[01:54:11]  He's Forbes top 50th guy, richest guy in the world.
[01:54:14]  What?
[01:54:14]  I said, how does, how does he not know his kids rolled up?
[01:54:18]  He's got to know his kids rolled up.
[01:54:19]  His kid's like 40 something years old, too, right?
[01:54:21]  He's not a kid, he's an older guy, and something wasn't adding up at all.
[01:54:25]  Man, I was like, you know what, we're out of here, man.
[01:54:27]  So, she paid me a lot of money, um, a lot of money just to go do that.
[01:54:32]  But I think there was something else going on.
[01:54:34]  I don't think, I think what she wanted to do is go, Yeah, I tried to find him, I paid people to go find him, and they couldn't find him.
[01:54:39]  So, I want a divorce now and half his money, right?
[01:54:42]  That's probably the play or all of his money because he's probably dead.
[01:54:45]  That's what she's going to say.
[01:54:47]  But those are the kind of jobs I get sometimes, and I actually enjoy those.
[01:54:50]  Um, others are.
[01:54:52]  Sometimes companies have problems with, this is actually something that's not just, this actually happens quite a bit.
[01:54:59]  So a lot of times a company will hire somebody and maybe bring them on the board, right?
[01:55:05]  They're an executive level or in their IT department or they're a family member, something like that.
[01:55:10]  And what will happen is, because I've done a couple of these already, these characters will then build another internet system, an intranet system behind the company's internet system, right?
[01:55:25]  So you don't know what's there, but what they're doing is they're siphoning off clients and money from the host, right, through their company, and they're stealing clients and they're laundering money, right?
[01:55:37]  And so what happens is if somebody dials in and goes, hey, this company's doing that, they don't even see the company in the background.
[01:55:43]  It's just basically invisible, right?
[01:55:44]  And these guys just tear everything down and freaking leave.
[01:55:48]  And this guy's got to prove how he didn't, you know, launder money, whatever he did.
[01:55:52]  I've seen it happen with very large companies, and I've also seen it with small family-owned companies.
[01:55:58]  We're family feuds and they're doing shit like that to each other.
[01:56:01]  You know, literally stealing the companies from each other, siphoning money off, blocking everything so they can't get on.
[01:56:07]  I had something similar happen to my first company as well with my business partner.
[01:56:10]  So what do they call you in to do for that?
[01:56:12]  Well, one, go in and try to go through the system and find the doors and also try to pin down exactly who's doing it, where they're doing it, how they're doing it, right?
[01:56:23]  So we have that evidence so we can show that, you know, these guys are nefarious actors.
[01:56:26]  It's very difficult in the IT world, but I've got I've got a team that can do all that.
[01:56:31]  I'm not smart enough to do it by myself.
[01:56:33]  They can actually do all that.
[01:56:35]  I've actually tracked down.
[01:56:37]  I have one organization that's still in play that, in fact, I'm going to get on another show and talk about this later on.
[01:56:44]  But I've got one group.
[01:56:47]  Man, I got to be very careful how I say this.
[01:56:49]  It's a collection of bad guys from around the world.
[01:56:53]  They're like cats and dogs, all unrelated, but they're working together, laundering money, human trafficking.
[01:57:01]  And also literally pumping fentanyl into our borders?
[01:57:04]  Um, lots of it.
[01:57:06]  And it's crazy how they're doing multinational yes, and i've got all their bank accounts.
[01:57:11]  I know all their bank.
[01:57:12]  I know it's all in all their bank accounts.
[01:57:14]  We went, we went to another level on this one.
[01:57:16]  Um, how long have you been working on this one?
[01:57:20]  Two years wow yeah, so i've made some money off of it already, but not the kind of money i'm looking for um, but it's more than that.
[01:57:29]  I want to.
[01:57:30]  I want to bring these down, man for sure.
[01:57:32]  Um, they have done some bad.
[01:57:33]  They've killed a couple cops that I know of, And what is their motive?
[01:57:39]  What is their objective?
[01:57:39]  Is it just money or is there anything else behind it?
[01:57:42]  I mean, multinational, I don't know.
[01:57:43]  Terrorism.
[01:57:45]  They're tied to terrorist groups.
[01:57:47]  Yeah, I got to be very careful how I say this.
[01:57:50]  They're tied to very bad groups.
[01:57:53]  And these groups are not even related, but they are working together to one end.
[01:57:58]  One of them is drive fentanyl into this country.
[01:58:02]  Two, human trafficking.
[01:58:03]  By the way, did you know that the cartels' biggest moneymaker, I guess that's probably the way I should put it, could make it, it's not drugs.
[01:58:13]  You know what it is?
[01:58:14]  Human trafficking.
[01:58:16]  That's actually really?
[01:58:17]  It's more than drugs?
[01:58:18]  That's right.
[01:58:20]  that human trafficking makes them more money than drugs.
[01:58:25]  Wow.
[01:58:25]  I was just on a show not too long ago, and I got a buddy, and I'd be glad to turn him on to you, man.
[01:58:31]  He's a great guy to talk to.
[01:58:34]  His name's Joey, but Joey worked for many agencies and organizations, and particularly involved in child trafficking, okay?
[01:58:42]  He's the guy that had to, when they recovered kids, he's the guy that had to guard the kids, transport the kids, move the kids.
[01:58:49]  A lot of times out of country.
[01:58:52]  To a foster family and a lot of times these kids don't go back to their original family because it's the original family, excuse me, that actually sold them, sold them off right, and they end up in this, they end up in this in a cycle.
[01:59:04]  So what they end up doing is going, let's take them to another country, so somebody that wants them um Jesus, amen you.
[01:59:11]  The stories he's got to tell, like literally, a cartel is literally rolling up on them and traffic lights, four dudes in there Sicarios going, we want that little one, you're going to give her up, or else, right where?
[01:59:23]  Where is this happening?
[01:59:24]  Everywhere, but he's particularly in Texas, In the United States.
[01:59:27]  All in the United States.
[01:59:28]  And I asked him, I said, man, I said, let me ask you something.
[01:59:31]  I said, so it's the cartels biggest trade right now, above and beyond drugs, human trafficking, and particularly kids.
[01:59:41]  I said, what about Americans?
[01:59:43]  He goes, yeah, Americans are involved equally doing it, right?
[01:59:47]  And he, dude, he's got so much intel, man.
[01:59:50]  And he's got it.
[01:59:50]  He's got it hard intel that he's been sharing with certain people.
[01:59:54]  But then he was telling me, he says, literally, you have, if you can imagine.
[01:59:59]  You know the nuclear white, middle-class family or wealthy family.
[02:00:06]  Right, they're literally, they're literally harboring these kids and then pawning them off, farming them off and they're taking money for it.
[02:00:14]  Right, we're gonna pay you a bunch of money if you keep this kid because you're a white, middle-class family.
[02:00:17]  Nobody would suspect you know, you're a trial child trafficker and we'll pay you a bunch of money.
[02:00:22]  That's actually happened.
[02:00:23]  That's actually real.
[02:00:24]  Who's the end client here?
[02:00:26]  Okay, so I asked them the same question.
[02:00:27]  I go, what happens to these kids what?
[02:00:29]  Why are people buying these kids?
[02:00:31]  And he actually broke it down, the value of the kids.
[02:00:33]  He said, a little blonde-haired girl, about three years old, blonde-haired, blue eyes.
[02:00:36]  He goes, yeah, that's, I think he told me that's $100,000 right there.
[02:00:39]  That's, she's $100,000.
[02:00:41]  And then, you know.
[02:00:42]  To who?
[02:00:43]  Like, who's paying that?
[02:00:44]  Well, pedophiles.
[02:00:46]  Pedophiles are paying for it.
[02:00:47]  Politicians, judges, lawyers, cops.
[02:00:51]  What?
[02:00:51]  Yeah.
[02:00:52]  A lot of Americans that you think would be better than that are actually doing this shit.
[02:00:57]  He didn't want to get into particular names.
[02:00:58]  This is like some fucking Pizzagate shit.
[02:01:00]  Yeah.
[02:01:01]  And he said, it's real.
[02:01:02]  It's very real.
[02:01:04]  And he's, dude, the information he shared with me, I was like, ah, man, this is some crazy shit, man.
[02:01:08]  But he goes, yeah, it's not.
[02:01:09]  That's some fucking explosive information.
[02:01:11]  Yeah.
[02:01:12]  That he's got.
[02:01:13]  Yeah.
[02:01:13]  And he's going to leverage it.
[02:01:15]  I don't want to compromise him too much, but I know he's been there, done that.
[02:01:21]  And he's got a lot of experience in it.
[02:01:23]  I assume he knows how to protect himself and, you know, probably has a dead man switch or something.
[02:01:27]  Yeah, he knows he's probably worried.
[02:01:28]  He's got his shit covered, man.
[02:01:30]  But, you know, by the way, the threat's very real in this country.
[02:01:34]  Very real.
[02:01:36]  So I was on Alex Jones a couple times last November before the election.
[02:01:39]  I was live on his show.
[02:01:40]  Oh, really?
[02:01:40]  Yeah.
[02:01:41]  So I went there and the reason I was on his show is, and I've already said this out loud, so I don't have a problem saying this again.
[02:01:50]  I kept it quiet for a long time because I was trying to do something.
[02:01:53]  But when I say I was trying to do something, trying to protect my family.
[02:01:57]  And long story short, Department of Justice, FBI was looking for me exactly a year ago.
[02:02:04]  And so finally, when they caught up with me, they said they had a duty to warn me.
[02:02:10]  And I said, like, what?
[02:02:11]  Warn me?
[02:02:11]  What?
[02:02:12]  to use improper pronouns, misgender somebody.
[02:02:14]  What did I do wrong?
[02:02:15]  I got no idea what's going on here right now.
[02:02:16]  No, you actually, they actually have a, through a credible source, through the intel sources, they found out that Al Qaeda has put a, I don't think it's called a fatwa, but basically they put out a worldwide notice to all Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda affiliates and lone wolves.
[02:02:35]  If they come across me, kill me.
[02:02:36]  I'm a priority target for them.
[02:02:37]  They made me a priority target.
[02:02:39]  What?
[02:02:39]  Yeah.
[02:02:40]  You didn't know that?
[02:02:41]  Oh, good.
[02:02:43]  That's crazy.
[02:02:44]  The FBI came and told you this.

=== Deportation and Visa Overstay (04:14) ===

[02:02:45]  Yeah.
[02:02:45]  Just a year ago.
[02:02:46]  And I have the letter.
[02:02:47]  I actually have a letter, signed letter, everything.
[02:02:48]  So it's official, right?
[02:02:49]  So they just mailed, they didn't like come meet you in person?
[02:02:51]  No, they, well, they looked for me.
[02:02:53]  They couldn't find me, right?
[02:02:54]  Right, right.
[02:02:54]  You know, you're all over the place.
[02:02:56]  You're worldwide.
[02:02:56]  Yeah.
[02:02:56]  I don't want to be found either, right?
[02:02:58]  Right.
[02:02:59]  I'm sure you're good at not being found.
[02:03:00]  So, not exactly, but I do live in three countries.
[02:03:05]  I move around quite a bit, but I have three countries.
[02:03:06]  I have another home in the Philippines.
[02:03:08]  And you've been to like over 100 countries, right?
[02:03:10]  Yeah.
[02:03:10]  Like lived and worked and traveled to.
[02:03:12]  Yeah.
[02:03:12]  Over 100.
[02:03:13]  101, I think 102, something like that now.
[02:03:15]  But so, Anyways, they were like, you know, hey, you should, you know, here's a warning.
[02:03:23]  Please go take care of yourself, your family, get the hell out of, get off the ex, right?
[02:03:26]  And, okay, so I go to the embassy, go, hey, I need to get my wife.
[02:03:30]  So they deported my wife.
[02:03:32]  This is another crazy story.
[02:03:34]  Oh, when they told you this, you were already in a foreign country.
[02:03:37]  Yeah.
[02:03:38]  Okay.
[02:03:38]  Yeah.
[02:03:39]  Well, here's a kicker.
[02:03:40]  Guess where they were looking for me at?
[02:03:41]  They were looking for me here in Panama City Beach.
[02:03:43]  Panama City Beach.
[02:03:44]  Al Qaeda was in Panama City Beach looking for me.
[02:03:47]  So they had to alert the entire local law enforcement to step up the patrols.
[02:03:52]  Around my neighborhood but they didn't know I wasn't there.
[02:03:54]  I actually have a friend of mine who's a former green beret that lives in my neighborhood.
[02:03:57]  He goes dude, you got, he goes.
[02:03:58]  People snooping around your house, in your garage and stuff oh, Jesus bro yeah, and so so they're here.
[02:04:05]  That's my point.
[02:04:06]  Is what i'm trying to have you ever heard of that happening to anyone else that you know?
[02:04:09]  Yeah, where Al-qaeda's tried to ambush them in the?
[02:04:11]  U.s.
[02:04:12]  That's actually happening has.
[02:04:14]  There's actually been a couple of incidents, um, recently a guy not recently, about a year ago a dude up in north Carolina shot a guy.
[02:04:20]  Um surveillance, they find out, found out he was uh, ISIS affiliate, I Believe.
[02:04:25]  So don't know why he targeted this particular, I think he was a colonel.
[02:04:30]  So here's the irony.
[02:04:33]  So now the US government, and I'm going to say it out loud, would not help me.
[02:04:37]  They will not.
[02:04:37]  They won't get, my wife got deported during COVID.
[02:04:41]  She's here legally on a five-year unlimited visa.
[02:04:43]  She got hit by a police car at 90 miles an hour one night, right, sitting still, hospitalized.
[02:04:48]  Then they found out she had cancer.
[02:04:49]  So now she's going to cancer treatment.
[02:04:51]  We couldn't go back to Indonesia because of a travel ban going back.
[02:04:53]  So we're stuck here in the US.
[02:04:55]  Well, we exceeded what we didn't know was there was a six month limit to stay on a five year unlimited visa.
[02:05:00]  We didn't know that.
[02:05:01]  I honestly didn't know that, right?
[02:05:03]  So with COVID, I thought, you know, not a big deal.
[02:05:06]  Well, it turns out it was a big deal.
[02:05:07]  So we leave after she gets her treatment, cancer's done.
[02:05:10]  We go back to Indonesia, come back.
[02:05:12]  Six weeks later, we get rolled into the secondary in LAX.
[02:05:16]  And I was going on here and they separate us.
[02:05:18]  And I go, what's going on?
[02:05:20]  And they go, your wife's a visa overstay.
[02:05:22]  I go, that's bullshit.
[02:05:23]  You know, and I'm like, what are you guys talking about, right?
[02:05:25]  And they wouldn't let me talk to her.
[02:05:26]  So from that point on, I didn't get to talk to her, communicate or text with her or nothing.
[02:05:30]  Just cut me completely, cut me off.
[02:05:32]  They say, Go wait down in baggage claim two hours.
[02:05:34]  We'll get back to you, tell you what we're going to do.
[02:05:36]  Right?
[02:05:36]  We have to interview.
[02:05:37]  And the first question they asked her was, Is your husband Dale Comstock?
[02:05:40]  She goes, yeah.
[02:05:41]  Guy got on the phone.
[02:05:42]  He goes, yeah, it's him.
[02:05:43]  Shit show started, right?
[02:05:44]  So it was a shit show.
[02:05:47]  We don't have time for me to talk about all the details, but it was pretty bad what happened, what they did to my wife.
[02:05:52]  My wife is 88 pounds, right?
[02:05:55]  4'9", 5'9", max.
[02:05:57]  And the shit they did to her down there, fucking ghetto rats and these people, they just treated her like shit, man, like she was a terrorist, right?
[02:06:06]  And never came out and told me what's going on.
[02:06:07]  I sat down there for 24 hours on my suitcase, like, you know puppy waiting for his master.
[02:06:13]  No food, no water.
[02:06:14]  I was afraid to leave.
[02:06:15]  Like what's going on?
[02:06:16]  No one to talk to, no one to call, no points of contact, no reference right.
[02:06:20]  It was crazy.
[02:06:21]  Um, I ended up calling congressman Dunn's office, called Marco Rubio's office, um called quite a few people's people, started engaging them.
[02:06:30]  Long story short, without my knowledge, they deported my wife.
[02:06:34]  She had no money, no credit cards, no clothes, no phone charger.
[02:06:38]  She had nothing.
[02:06:39]  They literally two freaking two gorillas in the goddamn you know CBP uniforms, escorted her to the terminal in front of everybody, loaded her last in front of everybody and just humiliated the out of her right.
[02:06:50]  And then what they did?
[02:06:51]  They falsified, they did the interview and they actually falsified her answers.
[02:06:56]  They turned all her negative answers to affirmative right because they asked her in the beginning.

=== Calling Congressional Offices (08:57) ===

[02:06:59]  Uh just, you know um, i'm gonna ask you some questions, you know.
[02:07:02]  Just, you know, say yes, she goes.
[02:07:03]  Well, what if it's no right?
[02:07:05]  And they go just answer yes, that way we get you out of here right, but she wasn't buying that right.
[02:07:08]  So they asked her, did she know she was in Overstate and she's like no, and they changed that.
[02:07:13]  They changed five questions to yes is what i'm trying to say here.
[02:07:15]  So they actually forged her documents.
[02:07:16]  So I've been going through a nut roll trying to get engaging lawyers, people that I know in politics to confront this thing head on.
[02:07:27]  And you would think, and my wife was already approved for a green card on top of that.
[02:07:31]  It's like, you know, it's not her.
[02:07:34]  It's me is what it comes down to.
[02:07:35]  I already know that.
[02:07:35]  It's me.
[02:07:36]  I got, I'm on many lists.
[02:07:37]  Let me put it that way.
[02:07:38]  At least four that I know of.
[02:07:39]  So yeah, we mentioned Al Qaeda.
[02:07:41]  I'm on their list.
[02:07:42]  And I'm also on some American lists.
[02:07:44]  So American lists.
[02:07:48]  Yeah, yeah, they're there.
[02:07:50]  Yeah, let's well, I'll say I don't want to say too much on here because, uh, yeah, I want to be able to go back home, right?
[02:07:55]  Right, uh, without listen, I'm not going to commit suicide, I will not commit suicide, uh, like life.
[02:08:02]  Um, so, anywho, um, yeah, so there is a threat in this country, was where I was starting with.
[02:08:08]  Yeah, they're real, they're here, they've been here.
[02:08:10]  Um, they were led across the border, and there's quite a few here.
[02:08:12]  The cartels are here, we know the MS 19, they're all here.
[02:08:16]  Al Qaeda is here, ISIS is here, ourselves here in our country.
[02:08:19]  The war is within our border now, um, and.
[02:08:22]  you know, the left has let them in.
[02:08:23]  The Democrats have let them in over the last four years, probably to the tune of about 30 million of these, not 30 million terrorists, but 30 million people.
[02:08:32]  So, yeah.
[02:08:34]  So going back to your initial question about Yemen or Yamen.
[02:08:39]  Yamen.
[02:08:42]  How did I get involved in that?
[02:08:43]  So I've been doing all these off jobs.
[02:08:46]  I've been doing bodyguard work.
[02:08:48]  I do a lot of different things, man.
[02:08:49]  I'm multitasking.
[02:08:50]  But finally, they call me one day.
[02:08:53]  They, they.
[02:08:54]  Spear Operations Group.
[02:08:55]  Oh, okay.
[02:08:55]  Got it.
[02:08:55]  So these are guys I was working for in Hong Kong as a bodyguard.
[02:09:00]  I've been to Mexico with them and South Africa with them.
[02:09:03]  And then they call, actually the owner, his name's Abraham, calls me up and says, hey, I need to speak to you, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[02:09:12]  And I was in Indonesia at the time.
[02:09:14]  Long story short, he had formed a strike team to basically he won a contract with the United Arab Emirates, right, to provide a special operations capability.
[02:09:26]  Small unit, they can go in and surgically take out heads of terror groups and things like that.
[02:09:32]  You kind of mentioned that earlier about going out and taking out heads of state.
[02:09:35]  That's exactly what we're good to have to do.
[02:09:37]  So it's a lot of money, a ton of money.
[02:09:41]  And he asked me to be a part of it.
[02:09:43]  He wanted me to run the whole program because of my background, my skills and stuff like that.
[02:09:47]  I was sitting on the fence at first.
[02:09:49]  And I remember when I got back to the States from Bali, he calls me again.
[02:09:54]  He said, I really need to talk to you, but I can't talk to you over the phone.
[02:09:56]  I go, ah, you know, I didn't know what the project was.
[02:09:59]  I just know it's security related.
[02:10:00]  I'm like already doing my own stuff.
[02:10:02]  He's like, I don't know.
[02:10:03]  I'm coming on him and Han.
[02:10:04]  He goes, I tell you what, he goes, I can't talk to you over the phone.
[02:10:06]  He goes, I'm going to buy you a plane ticket, fly you to San Diego.
[02:10:09]  I'm going to give you $6,000 for three hours of your time.
[02:10:12]  Done.
[02:10:13]  I said, must be important.
[02:10:14]  So sure enough, I fly out there.
[02:10:15]  He meets me, takes me off in his Porsche, and tells me what the project is that night.
[02:10:21]  I'm still sitting on the fence because they're leaving in like three, four days, right?
[02:10:27]  And I said, man, I got to go back to Indonesia, say goodbye to my, you know, at the time, my girlfriend, this and that.
[02:10:33]  I said, how about you guys go and I catch up with you later?
[02:10:34]  He goes, no, if you're not on the first one, I can't have you after that.
[02:10:37]  Didn't make any sense to me.
[02:10:38]  So I'm still kind of thinking.
[02:10:41]  I'm thinking he pulls out $40,000 cash.
[02:10:43]  He throws it on the desk.
[02:10:44]  He goes, That's yours right now.
[02:10:46]  If you sign it, just do this.
[02:10:49]  Okay.
[02:10:50]  Put it in my pocket, right?
[02:10:51]  And so, yeah, dude, I made a lot of money.
[02:10:54]  I don't want to disclose it here because I got ex wives that will try to sue me.
[02:10:57]  But after listening.
[02:11:01]  But, anyways, so I said, okay, I'll tell you what.
[02:11:04]  I said, I'm going to fly back to Indonesia, say goodbye to my girlfriend, grab a couple of things.
[02:11:08]  I'll meet you guys in New York, and then we'll assemble there.
[02:11:12]  So I didn't know who the rest of the team was.
[02:11:13]  I just knew who AG was, Abraham, and his number two guy, a guy named Isaac.
[02:11:18]  Turned out to be a turd.
[02:11:20]  But so I fly home, tell my wife, hey, I'm going to go to the Middle East, go train some soldiers, you know, how to march and stuff like that.
[02:11:25]  You know, it's just regular stuff.
[02:11:26]  I'll be right back.
[02:11:27]  And so I lied to her.
[02:11:28]  And I fly to New York.
[02:11:31]  I forget what night it was.
[02:11:33]  Anyways, I arrive in the evening.
[02:11:34]  I go to the hotel.
[02:11:35]  I'm sitting down in the lobby.
[02:11:37]  I have to be up in a hotel room around 10 o'clock that night, certain room.
[02:11:40]  And I look around.
[02:11:42]  I notice there's some dudes walking around, kind of had this special force of swagger to them.
[02:11:45]  You could just tell army guys, especially spec ops guys, you know.
[02:11:48]  And they were French.
[02:11:49]  Hmm, interesting.
[02:11:50]  That night, I go up to the room at 10 o'clock and everybody's there.
[02:11:53]  All these French guys, and there's a total of 11 of us, French Foreign Legionnaires, one, two SEALs, Abraham, me, and Moroccan couples like that.
[02:12:03]  Anyway, a total of 11.
[02:12:04]  And he tells us what the mission is.
[02:12:06]  I already know what it is.
[02:12:07]  He tells them what the mission is because they didn't know.
[02:12:09]  He's like, Look, gentlemen, he goes, This is the mission.
[02:12:12]  He goes, I understand.
[02:12:13]  If you don't want to be a part of it, if you don't want to be a part of it, you're free to leave.
[02:12:16]  You can take the $20,000 I gave you and keep it.
[02:12:18]  No problem.
[02:12:19]  Damn.
[02:12:20]  They all stayed on board.
[02:12:21]  He goes, okay, well, next thing is that guy right there.
[02:12:23]  He's pointing at me.
[02:12:23]  He goes, that guy's in charge of everything.
[02:12:25]  Whatever he tells you, that's what you're doing.
[02:12:26]  He runs the show.
[02:12:28]  And so I was already aware of that, basically.
[02:12:31]  And so the next night, we had to meet at Teeterboro, the private airport, right?
[02:12:37]  Business airport.
[02:12:38]  And the funny part was Abraham was like, okay, I need you guys to show up in your tactical uniforms, your fatigues, whatever you're going to be wearing downrange, right?
[02:12:46]  Which, by the way, we really didn't have.
[02:12:48]  He told us not to bring anything because it all would be provided.
[02:12:51]  But all of us did bring our own fatigues because we like wearing our own shit, right?
[02:12:54]  So.
[02:12:56]  So I didn't make no sense.
[02:12:57]  Why would we wear tactical uniforms to a business airport?
[02:13:01]  Dude sitting around suits and we walk in look like a bunch of knuckle draggers, right?
[02:13:04]  And we look pretty rough.
[02:13:05]  I mean, we look pretty.
[02:13:06]  We have some big dudes and shit was pretty ragged, you know, and just had that presence about so.
[02:13:13]  But I didn't question it because Abraham's pretty smart, man.
[02:13:16]  His guy knows his shit.
[02:13:17]  And I was like, he's got a good reason.
[02:13:18]  So I'm going to go with it.
[02:13:20]  So we do.
[02:13:21]  We go to the airport.
[02:13:22]  I find out later on, I figured out why.
[02:13:24]  He knew we were already being watched.
[02:13:25]  We were already being surveilled, probably by the FBI, probably.
[02:13:28]  NSA, probably CIA, probably a lot of people watching this, right?
[02:13:31]  He already knew that.
[02:13:32]  What country are you in?
[02:13:32]  In America.
[02:13:33]  Oh, you're in America still.
[02:13:35]  And so in New York, but he knew that and he knew that they would know.
[02:13:38]  And so rather than trying to be like trying to be like trying to be discreet, you know, and obviously probably one of the reasons they would look to see is if we're transporting weapons, right?
[02:13:48]  That would be a big problem if they knew it.
[02:13:50]  So we didn't have any weapons.
[02:13:51]  We just brought water, food, things like that, uniforms, just equipment, but no nothing forbidden to take abroad.
[02:14:00]  So we load up, we take off in a private jet and we stop in, I think, Hungary to a refuel restop, ended up flying.
[02:14:08]  So the pilots didn't know where we're going.
[02:14:09]  First, they just thought we're flying to Dubai.
[02:14:13]  And then en route to United Emirates, I remember knocked on the pilot's cabin door and said, hey, guys, listen, new instructions.
[02:14:22]  See these geo coordinates?
[02:14:23]  That's where you're landing.
[02:14:24]  And they're like, huh?
[02:14:25]  And they look at it and it's just a desert, right?
[02:14:28]  It's just a desert, just dirt.
[02:14:29]  But that's where you're landing.
[02:14:31]  This Gulf Stream.
[02:14:32]  Wow.
[02:14:33]  Just do it.
[02:14:34]  And so they didn't want to quit.
[02:14:36]  They're like, yes, sir, whatever you guys want.
[02:14:37]  Just don't kill us, right?
[02:14:40]  And so we do.
[02:14:41]  We land in the middle of the night.
[02:14:43]  Out in this undisclosed, it's not even on the map, this airfield, right?
[02:14:46]  And it's not even an airfield.
[02:14:46]  It's just kind of a quasi-dirt strip.
[02:14:49]  When we land, there's a C-130 sitting there.
[02:14:51]  It's about 8 o'clock at night, something like that.
[02:14:53]  I can't remember.
[02:14:54]  But it's dark.
[02:14:54]  Engines are running.
[02:14:56]  Ramp is down.
[02:14:56]  There's one dude standing on the tailgate.
[02:14:59]  Turns out he was a colonel.
[02:15:00]  His name was Muhammad, Colonel Muhammad.
[02:15:02]  And he was an intel officer for the Emiratis.
[02:15:04]  And he's standing with a clipboard.
[02:15:06]  And so we land, engines off, and instructions were grab your shit, get off, and transload into that C-130.
[02:15:13]  So we do.
[02:15:13]  Grab our stuff, run over there.
[02:15:15]  He checks the list check check check, check everybody, get on, fly off for four hours.
[02:15:19]  We end up in uh, landing at Djibouti about uh 2 a.m that morning, something like now about midnight, something like that.
[02:15:27]  Right, so we landed Djibouti.
[02:15:28]  There's literally a Ch-47 and two Apache helicopters sitting there, engines running, waiting for us.
[02:15:34]  So we transload into tailgate of the Ch-47, take off again, fly another hour into Aden and we land at an Emirati uh fob right off in a way off in the corner, somewhere.
[02:15:46]  They actually built another cantonment area in the back of the fob.
[02:15:49]  So we're out of sight, out of mind.
[02:15:51]  Land the helicopters there, we dismounted and then uh, so now i'm the guy in charge.
[02:15:55]  I look at the colonel, I go, hey, sir.

=== Contingency Plans for Leaders (15:02) ===

[02:15:56]  I said where's our weapons equipment?
[02:15:58]  Uh, what can we expect?
[02:15:59]  As he goes, they're on the way right now.
[02:16:01]  I said okay, and they had some tents set up for us, Hesco's and stuff like that.
[02:16:05]  So we go over there, download our own personal trucks, show up, start downloading all the uh firearms and so we're supposed to have brand new Us Grade stuff.
[02:16:14]  Right, that's what.
[02:16:14]  That's part of the contract, big gas contract.
[02:16:17]  Right, it was very they were is all laid out.
[02:16:19]  We want all the cool stuff with bells and whistles right, and guy drops a tailgate and there's pieces and parts of Ak-47s Dishka, 51 caliber, Russian.
[02:16:30]  It's like what I said, what is this right?
[02:16:33]  Just pieces apart?
[02:16:33]  Is there misses like the?
[02:16:35]  Like the uh, heavy barrel machine guns didn't have a tripod, like how the hell you shoot that right?
[02:16:39]  And it's like you know, the Ak-47s, no magazines.
[02:16:41]  The Pkm machine guns, no, no link belt uh, for the ammunition.
[02:16:45]  And I and i'm doing the inventories we're compartment, you know, stockpiling everything and I realized we There's nothing we can do with this stuff, right?
[02:16:52]  And so I walk up to the colonel and I said, Hey, Colonel, I said, This is not going to work.
[02:17:00]  We don't have enough stuff here.
[02:17:01]  And see, what I didn't realize was he despised the fact that we were there in his country to do on his behalf of his military what they couldn't do for themselves, right?
[02:17:11]  And they got, you know, the Americans, the white guys, the French, you know.
[02:17:15]  But we did have some Arabs too, right?
[02:17:17]  Some of them are Rock and so they should have appeased him, but it didn't.
[02:17:19]  So he probably thought he was a sellout.
[02:17:21]  So, so.
[02:17:24]  When I told him that, I said, we don't have all the, you know, this is not enough.
[02:17:27]  We need more stuff.
[02:17:28]  So what you're telling me is you cannot do the mission.
[02:17:31]  I said, I didn't say that.
[02:17:32]  I said, I can take that PK machine gun over there and beat the shit out of somebody with it, but if I have to, but, you know, just say we couldn't do the mission, it'd just be a lot easier if I could shoot somebody rather than beat them with a machine gun.
[02:17:43]  And so I know he was going to go with this.
[02:17:45]  He was going to go back to the Minister of Defense, who was actually the client, right, for Abu Dhabi and the MOD and tell him, no, they can't do it.
[02:17:54]  You know, that's what he wanted to do.
[02:17:55]  Yes.
[02:17:56]  It didn't work out.
[02:17:56]  So I kind of put some pressure on him and he's like, okay, he goes, give me a list of stuff you need.
[02:18:01]  I go, here it is.
[02:18:01]  It's already done.
[02:18:03]  He brought me some of the stuff, enough to get the job done.
[02:18:06]  But so then, so we get settled in.
[02:18:11]  You know, it's pretty austere.
[02:18:14]  I mean, literally for breakfast and lunch, we were eating fish, eggs, and rice.
[02:18:17]  I mean, fish heads and rice.
[02:18:20]  Fish eggs probably would have been a better choice, but no, it was just fish heads.
[02:18:23]  That's fish heads and rice.
[02:18:24]  That's all we got, fish heads and rice.
[02:18:25]  I know what they did, man.
[02:18:27]  The guys, the boys over there in the chow hall, the Emiratis were getting all the good shit.
[02:18:30]  They're like, hey, we got to go feed the gringos.
[02:18:31]  You know, yeah, fuck it.
[02:18:32]  Everybody give me your leftovers off your plate.
[02:18:34]  You know, fish heads, fish heads.
[02:18:35]  Oh my God.
[02:18:36]  I'm pretty sure that's what was going on there.
[02:18:38]  Yeah, it was some crappy food, man.
[02:18:40]  We weren't there for the fine dining, that's for sure.
[02:18:43]  Dusty desert conditions, flies everywhere.
[02:18:46]  Really austere.
[02:18:47]  But you know what?
[02:18:48]  We're there to do a job, you know, and we're soldiers.
[02:18:52]  So now we have the issue of, well, okay, target list.
[02:18:56]  So the target list has 42 characters on it, right?
[02:19:00]  And three countries.
[02:19:01]  So we're not just here.
[02:19:03]  We're going to go other places and take care of some people, right?
[02:19:08]  So the first guy on the list, and I'll say this because this was on a BBC documentary not too long ago.
[02:19:14]  They lied, by the way, too.
[02:19:15]  I just say that right now.
[02:19:16]  I was surprised.
[02:19:16]  They're full of shit.
[02:19:17]  But I had to get on there to do something to keep us all out of trouble because the seal that was involved in this thing would have gotten us in trouble.
[02:19:24]  He's an idiot.
[02:19:25]  So anyways, long story short, the first guy on the list was a guy named Ansaf Mayu, and he was the head of the Al-Islah political party.
[02:19:32]  So the Al-Islah political party is an extension of the Muslim Brotherhood.
[02:19:36]  Okay, they're bad guys.
[02:19:37]  The Muslim Brotherhood was building barracks for Al-Qaeda.
[02:19:41]  In Yemen, and so they have what's called ACAP Al-qaeda, Arabic Peninsula AQAP.
[02:19:46]  There's a lot of them.
[02:19:47]  They were on every street corner, like I was this far away from them sometimes they'd be like looking in the window trying to see in, and i'm looking at them with weapon, like getting ready to let the air out.
[02:19:54]  Right, that's how close they were and that's how many there were.
[02:19:57]  Um, and the Muslim Brotherhood was building them barracks to house them.
[02:20:01]  So you also had uh.
[02:20:02]  Well, you had the Huthis, you had uh, you had the Muslim Brotherhood, you had Al-qaeda, you had uh.
[02:20:07]  You also had elements from ISIS there as well um, in fact.
[02:20:11]  So we're looking at the list number one guy's this guy, Ansaf Mayu, and uh, And as I go down the list, number seven, I forget his name now off the top of my head, but he was the USS Cole bombing mastermind.
[02:20:24]  He's the guy that blew up the Cole bomb, set that all up, right?
[02:20:26]  And he's there in Yemen.
[02:20:28]  Like, what the hell?
[02:20:29]  And he's got a house on a four-way intersection across the street.
[02:20:31]  He's got a madrasa.
[02:20:32]  And he's walking around freely, no problem.
[02:20:34]  And what he's doing, he's literally running ISIS fighters.
[02:20:39]  He's running through a pipeline through his madrasa and then sending them to Syria.
[02:20:45]  So we're like, oh, no, no, no, this has got to be the number one guy.
[02:20:47]  We're going to take this guy.
[02:20:48]  First right and then we brought it up to the mod.
[02:20:50]  He goes no, he goes.
[02:20:51]  This is my list, it's my country and this is the target number one and he's number seven that i'm paying the bills like okay, the first six right.
[02:21:00]  So um so, the first guy we go after.
[02:21:04]  Finally um, we had all kinds of options on the table to take him out right.
[02:21:09]  So um, what's the best option?
[02:21:11]  Well, what's your preferred option?
[02:21:14]  Just walk up and shoot him right.
[02:21:15]  That would have been the preferred option, but that wasn't easy because this guy was very um, He was really good at tradecraft.
[02:21:21]  He had been trained, right?
[02:21:22]  So he was really good at not sleeping in the same place twice.
[02:21:25]  He was good at watching his back.
[02:21:26]  He traveled with security detail.
[02:21:28]  He was taking security measures all the time.
[02:21:31]  Are you guys really worried about covering your tracks and not being detected by anyone else?
[02:21:34]  Yeah, you guys don't want this.
[02:21:36]  This should not be like a public thing, right?
[02:21:38]  This should be like super covert.
[02:21:40]  Yeah, absolutely.
[02:21:41]  Because we're the only white faces in the country.
[02:21:44]  Yeah.
[02:21:44]  And so they would have for sure dialed in on us, man.
[02:21:47]  Let me explain what it looked like there at the time.
[02:21:49]  So you got all these different groups.
[02:21:52]  So if we left the gate wire, we would actually get inside of an MRAP and cover up, right?
[02:21:56]  We would all hajjied up and stuff, right?
[02:21:58]  Try to blend in.
[02:22:00]  And Al Qaeda, nobody messed with the Emiratis.
[02:22:03]  There was like this unspoken truth.
[02:22:05]  You don't mess with us, we don't mess with you.
[02:22:07]  And that stemmed from a VBID that went off in the front gate and killed about 40 Emirati soldiers.
[02:22:12]  When that happened, the Emiratis were like, okay, we'll be here, but we're not playing this game.
[02:22:18]  We're not risking any more lives.
[02:22:19]  So they're just kind of showing off, right?
[02:22:23]  And so basically, in fact, at the airport, so the Emirati military occupied the airport, but guess who controlled the gates going in?
[02:22:32]  Al Qaeda.
[02:22:33]  How does that work?
[02:22:34]  Right.
[02:22:35]  So they control the gates going in and out.
[02:22:37]  And that's how we would travel in there is we'd be in the back of the MRAP.
[02:22:41]  I'll hodge it up and like, hey, hey, come on in.
[02:22:43]  You know, it was that kind of a situation.
[02:22:45]  It was kind of weird, right?
[02:22:46]  But the thing was, you could drive down any road at any time.
[02:22:50]  And about every kilometer, there would be another checkpoint.
[02:22:52]  Now, it's either going to be the Yemenis resistance.
[02:22:55]  It's going to be the Houthis.
[02:22:56]  It's going to be Al Qaeda or maybe an ISIS faction is there.
[02:23:01]  But there's always going to be somebody else is owning different checkpoints along the way.
[02:23:05]  Yeah.
[02:23:05]  And usually they didn't harass the Emirati military.
[02:23:08]  So we'd get around, get away with driving around the back of their trucks.
[02:23:11]  But if we had left the gates in our own vehicles, and they saw, and in fact, they saw us one time inside of MRAP.
[02:23:18]  I knew the guy picked up and was like, what?
[02:23:19]  And he could see our white little faces.
[02:23:22]  Yeah, and you could see them running and spinning up and getting on the radios and trying to call us like, oh, shit, get the hell out of here.
[02:23:27]  But yeah, for sure, for sure, man, they'd have killed us if they caught us.
[02:23:32]  That was a very dangerous place, very dangerous place.
[02:23:37]  But that's kind of the situation with the enemy situation, if you will.
[02:23:44]  The country's just decimated, man.
[02:23:46]  I mean, it's just like totally just destroyed.
[02:23:49]  And so we're like, okay, well, we need to find this guy, Antof Mayu.
[02:23:52]  How do we find him?
[02:23:54]  And so we were able to get one of their sources, human sources, right, to come in and tell us what they know and actually work for us.
[02:24:04]  We're like, look, if you can help us find this guy, we think his office is over here, but he travels around a lot.
[02:24:09]  He's got a a motorcade, just pick up trucks and stuff, you know, with guns on it.
[02:24:15]  If you can locate this guy for us, let us know.
[02:24:17]  We're going to pay you lots of money, right?
[02:24:18]  Here's a little bit of money now just to show you we're serious, right?
[02:24:21]  So he turned out to be a good source.
[02:24:24]  So we had all these plans, these contingencies plans, because we thought one day he's going to leave and go to the airport.
[02:24:29]  Now, Aiden, there's only one flight that leaves the airport per day, one airplane in and out.
[02:24:32]  That's it, right?
[02:24:33]  So we had intel he's going to fly out.
[02:24:36]  And we're like, well, what day?
[02:24:36]  We're not sure, but next couple of days.
[02:24:38]  So we actually, we did a reconnaissance.
[02:24:41]  Of the airport roads, the front gate where the Al-qaeda was, and we made the decision, we're going to kill him right here in front of the gate.
[02:24:48]  Right, get some Al-qaeda while we're at it.
[02:24:49]  But it just seemed like the field was perfect for shooting.
[02:24:52]  We could set up and cover, concealment etc.
[02:24:55]  So we kind of planned that one um, and then we're going to do another one.
[02:24:59]  We're going to interdict him on a desert road, then we're actually going to get him on a motorcycle.
[02:25:03]  So what I was going to do is ride up alongside my motorcycle, up against his vehicle, hodge it out right, and then we're going to hang a vbid from his mirror.
[02:25:10]  And then uh, what's a vbid?
[02:25:12]  A vehicle worn uh, improvised uh device.
[02:25:14]  Basically It wasn't a VBID so much, it was just an IED.
[02:25:18]  What I did is I built a charge, very big charge, in an ammo can.
[02:25:21]  I call it the mother of all claymores, but it was well over seven pounds of explosives.
[02:25:26]  And I put fragmentation, all kinds of stuff in it.
[02:25:30]  And I designed it so I could actually hang it off his mirror and just drive away.
[02:25:33]  And he couldn't get off the mirror, right?
[02:25:34]  His driver wouldn't be able to get off.
[02:25:36]  And, you know, it was too heavy with the wiring.
[02:25:38]  By the time he got on, figured out, he'd blown up, right?
[02:25:41]  So that was a mission.
[02:25:42]  So I had that one set up.
[02:25:44]  And we had about five or six contingencies to include flying into one of the neighborhoods the Muslim Brotherhood built for Al Qaeda.
[02:25:51]  We thought he was going to be staying there one night.
[02:25:53]  And so we were actually going to fly in there, do a roof assault, come down and go get him.
[02:25:57]  But then we'd have to fight our way out of the city, out of that neighborhood.
[02:26:00]  Ultimately, what finally happened was we got an intel hit one night about 9.30.
[02:26:07]  Hey, he's in his office downtown Aden right here at this location right now.
[02:26:10]  He went in with his bodyguards and his assistant.
[02:26:13]  They're inside there to just close the doors.
[02:26:15]  Holy shit.
[02:26:15]  So we put the ISR bird up, which is a drone helicopter.
[02:26:19]  And it's flying.
[02:26:20]  It's filming.
[02:26:22]  the source, the human source, he's watching, he's got eyes on from across the street, and he's giving us updates.
[02:26:27]  Go, yeah, they're still in there, still in there, they're still in there.
[02:26:29]  Showings confirming it, they haven't left.
[02:26:31]  So what happened was we had made the decision that we would go in with one vehicle.
[02:26:39]  It was a Toyota Land Cruiser, level seven armor, brand new.
[02:26:44]  They had a bunch of sitting out in the field.
[02:26:46]  They're like, hey, take whatever you want, use whatever.
[02:26:48]  That's the Emiratis are telling us, just whatever you want, use it, right?
[02:26:51]  Because they were going to give it to the M&Es anyways, if they win.
[02:26:56]  So we had an up-armored land cruiser, and what we're going to do, four of us, me, Abraham, and two SEALs, one SEAL in the back with a MAG 58 machine gun, and then the other SEAL is sitting next to me on the starboard side of the car, Abraham riding shotgun, and then we had a driver who was an Emirati major.
[02:27:14]  Now, there was supposed to be no Emiratis involved in this, right, because the Emiratis don't want any attribution to them, right?
[02:27:21]  That's a little problematic for us because then it looks like just a bunch of gringos coming in here shooting the place up, right?
[02:27:28]  We figured it out.
[02:27:29]  So we told this guy, I said, listen, you're not allowed to have a gun because then that looks like you're fighting, right?
[02:27:36]  So I said, you can drive if you want to come along and watch the show, but you can't have a gun.
[02:27:40]  You go with that?
[02:27:40]  Yeah, well, good.
[02:27:41]  I'm good with that.
[02:27:41]  He's the first guy to get shot.
[02:27:42]  The only guy to get shot without the gun, right?
[02:27:46]  But he lived.
[02:27:47]  So anyways, we drive in.
[02:27:50]  Long story short, we drive in very slow, very dark.
[02:27:54]  There's video of it on the internet from the ISR bird.
[02:27:59]  We deploy, as soon as we deploy, gunfire starts.
[02:28:02]  And first guy shot, like I said, was our driver.
[02:28:05]  And I end up running across the street to the office.
[02:28:08]  I tried to go in, tried to open the doors.
[02:28:10]  I was going to frag it with some hand grenades and then just go and start shooting.
[02:28:13]  And then place the, I had basically as an ID is what it was.
[02:28:17]  And I was just going to place it in an office with our dear friend and then just vaporize the place.
[02:28:22]  But they had locked it from the inside so I couldn't get in, right?
[02:28:26]  So at this point, things are picking up on the street.
[02:28:29]  It's getting really loud and noisy.
[02:28:30]  And all I can imagine was the bodyguards were standing behind the door going, what the hell is going on out there, right?
[02:28:35]  But they didn't want to open the door.
[02:28:36]  And unfortunately for them, you know, they're standing behind the door that I'm about to blow up.
[02:28:41]  And I couldn't open it.
[02:28:41]  So I put the charge in the door with the blast directional facing straight into the office.
[02:28:48]  And my goal was to basically take him out with this particular, I call it mother, the mother of all Claymores, right?
[02:28:54]  And so I pulled the firing system and I was supposed to go back to my vehicle, the Land Cruiser.
[02:29:01]  I had rigged it already for, I'd put explosives.
[02:29:05]  Basically, I put an incendiary device in the back of it.
[02:29:07]  What I wanted to do is blow the car up because we're not taking it out.
[02:29:10]  We're going to leave it, right?
[02:29:10]  So I don't want to leave it intact, so I'm going to destroy it.
[02:29:13]  So I rigged it with explosives, gasoline, some other stuff, and put it over the gas tank.
[02:29:19]  And I was supposed to go back and detonate it, but I couldn't get back.
[02:29:22]  At this point, the fire, the bullets were just zinging by, man.
[02:29:25]  I mean, I'm in somebody's sights.
[02:29:27]  And so I had a contingency plan.
[02:29:30]  One of the SEALs that was with me, he was a good dude, not like the other guy.
[02:29:35]  And I told him, if I don't come back when it's time to exfil, you have to pull that firing system, right?
[02:29:40]  You pull the firing system, get in the MRAP behind you.
[02:29:42]  So that's exactly how it played out.
[02:29:44]  I ended up running north.
[02:29:45]  He pulls a fuse knife, jumps in the MRAP.
[02:29:48]  By the time he gets in the MRAP, the main charge went off.
[02:29:51]  It just, like a nuclear weapon, man, just leveled everything.
[02:29:53]  And then 10 seconds after that one, the charge in the car went off and it burned that car to the ground.
[02:29:59]  I mean, like smoldering, nothing left of it, man.
[02:30:01]  I got actual, I got real color pictures of it.
[02:30:03]  It was just a huge bonfire.
[02:30:06]  But it actually worked out pretty good because in the reports, you know, so now they're, you know, the newsies are coming in going, what happened?
[02:30:12]  What happened?
[02:30:14]  Believe it or not, they actually thought we were a Taliban because one of the guys, Abraham, looked like, he had a big beard and his thing going on his head.
[02:30:21]  He just looked like a Taliban fighter.
[02:30:22]  They saw this Taliban dude running up there and then they thought it was a car bomb that went off.
[02:30:26]  They didn't realize it was actually two bombs that went off.
[02:30:29]  So they go, yeah, his car bomb went off and they didn't know what would happen, right?
[02:30:33]  Which is good.
[02:30:34]  And then also the next morning, the assistant to the target, he's all wrapped up.
[02:30:41]  His arms are all wrapped up in bandages and stuff.
[02:30:44]  And he's standing on the stage, you know, talking to, you know, doing a little news conference, telling them, ha, ha, ha, they didn't get him, you know, but I got him.
[02:30:52]  And we weren't sure if we got him or not, right?
[02:30:54]  We thought, I thought for sure I got him.
[02:30:56]  If he's in there, he's dead, right?
[02:30:58]  But this guy's actually standing out here.

=== Misidentified Taliban Fighters (03:53) ===

[02:30:59]  He's not.
[02:31:00]  Turns out he did actually get away.
[02:31:02]  He actually had left.
[02:31:04]  Before we showed up and this is where we're not going on we're not understanding we didn't see him the bird human didn't say he left what's going on here But he did get away He made it to Saudi Arabia Interesting thing about that was the Saudis wanted his ass They didn't like him either.
[02:31:17]  So why is he hiding in Saudi Arabia?
[02:31:19]  So that makes me wonder to what's going on there So So all that went down right so we get off the ex and we report back to the mod up in Abu Dhabi.
[02:31:29]  So it was me Abraham one the seals I think the three of us made four And we're going to go to the officers club, meet with him and all his cronies.
[02:31:38]  And again, this is already public domain.
[02:31:43]  So his name was Mohammed Dallin.
[02:31:45]  Mohammed Dallin has got a very interesting background.
[02:31:48]  He used to be a Palestinian.
[02:31:49]  Well, he probably still is Palestinian.
[02:31:51]  He's a PLO fighter as a kid.
[02:31:54]  And long story short, he was at one point financed by the CIA.
[02:31:59]  But then the CIA, this guy is going a little rogue.
[02:32:02]  So they cut him off.
[02:32:03]  He's been implicated in the assassination of Anwar Sadat.
[02:32:08]  Quite a few people.
[02:32:09]  He's been implicated in that.
[02:32:11]  Um, he got finally got arrested by the Israelis.
[02:32:14]  He spent 10 years in Israeli jail.
[02:32:16]  So he speaks like perfect Hebrew, but he's Arab.
[02:32:19]  Now, what's interesting about this guy?
[02:32:22]  He's like really cool Arab, right.
[02:32:23]  I mean.
[02:32:24]  I say cool in that he doesn't look like an Arab.
[02:32:26]  I mean he's all gucci'd out, you know, and he's just laid back, just a nice guy man.
[02:32:30]  He's drinking alcohol, having fun, you know, and and i'm looking at him and Abraham these two guys were arch enemies at one time literally are taking on each other's bodyguards because Abraham, I forgot to tell you this part of the story.
[02:32:42]  He's actually a Hungarian Jew, but was in the Israeli intel service, right?
[02:32:48]  And he was part of their TAP program, target assassination program.
[02:32:51]  So he's duncing Muhammad's guys.
[02:32:54]  Muhammad's duncing his guys.
[02:32:55]  You know, there's a little feud going on.
[02:32:57]  But finally, now all of a sudden, these guys, you would never know they were arch enemies because they're laughing and giggling and ho-hoing and drinking and talking about going down range and killing basically more Muslims.
[02:33:06]  Like, what the fuck is going on here, right?
[02:33:08]  So I'm sitting there eating my lobster shit going, is this really happening?
[02:33:12]  And I remember thinking to myself at the dinner table, I said, man, you know, we're living a lie.
[02:33:17]  We're all living a lie, man, because at the end of the day, man, it's not just this incident, but in this particular one, I'm going, how does this work out?
[02:33:24]  You got a Jewish-Israeli dude over here that's been trying to kill his guy.
[02:33:29]  This guy's trying to kill this guy.
[02:33:31]  They're in opposite camps, but now we're in the same camp, and we're going to focus on the Arabs' objectives of killing more Arabs, you know, because they're in his way, and they're causing problems, and they're terrorists, and he's going to pay us money to do all that.
[02:33:44]  It was like really a weird, strange situation.
[02:33:47]  I said, you know, at the end of the day, and I'm going to be a little crass here.
[02:33:51]  Can I cuss on this phone?
[02:33:52]  Of course.
[02:33:52]  Yeah, okay.
[02:33:53]  Sometimes I got to watch my language.
[02:33:56]  So I have a theory, right?
[02:33:57]  Yeah.
[02:33:58]  When it comes to combat and war, since the dawn of time, as far as we know, there's been over 12,000 wars.
[02:34:03]  12,000, right?
[02:34:05]  And when you really look at why do we fight?
[02:34:08]  Why do men fight?
[02:34:09]  All right.
[02:34:10]  We fight for three reasons, I believe.
[02:34:12]  One, power, right?
[02:34:14]  Two, for money.
[02:34:16]  And those are interchangeable.
[02:34:16]  You got money, you got power, you got power, you got money.
[02:34:18]  What's the third thing you think?
[02:34:19]  I'll tell you what it is.
[02:34:20]  I'll just be crass.
[02:34:21]  It's pussy.
[02:34:21]  Procreation, right?
[02:34:22]  At the end of the day, it really is.
[02:34:25]  What's the point of having all this wealth and shit, all this Gucci stuff, and you got no chicks to share it with, right?
[02:34:31]  And so, you know, you're a loser, right?
[02:34:33]  So I believe that's the motivation.
[02:34:36]  And so I'm looking at these guys going, yeah, it's about money, power, you know, probably pussy as well.
[02:34:40]  There's a lot of that going on.
[02:34:43]  But when I, you know, looking back at that whole scenario, it's like that's just suddenly two arch enemies are really good friends and they're working out a business.

=== Motivation Behind Wealth Accumulation (13:01) ===

[02:34:53]  deal worth a lot of money to take out bad guys, which I don't have a problem with that.
[02:34:58]  So we're sitting there chatting.
[02:35:01]  We already gave, he had already kind of gotten, the MOD had already gotten a brief back of the operation and then he got it, you know, from our mouths, particularly mine.
[02:35:11]  And so it turns out the first mission we did, that first one was nothing more than a vetting mission.
[02:35:16]  I didn't know that, right?
[02:35:17]  So if I remember correctly, the entire project was worth $880 million, right?
[02:35:24]  This first project, they get.
[02:35:26]  He gave Abraham, I believe, 800 000 or a million dollars right to get the G5 jets, all the we needed to get the first team in on the ground to execute, right.
[02:35:36]  So um, if we could prove we could do the first one, then we get all the other ones.
[02:35:41]  And so then I think back to that day, I was sitting in the office with Abraham and I was like hey, why don't you guys go first, now i'll come in on the next one.
[02:35:48]  And he said I, I don't have you in the first one, I need you on the second one.
[02:35:50]  And then I realized yeah, if they would have boned this first operation, they wouldn't have got the contract.
[02:35:55]  So he, in a way, he felt like he needed me to make sure this thing gets done uh, so I made total sense there.
[02:36:01]  So now he's got the whole contract perfect well, we all do.
[02:36:04]  And um, so we all took a break, says okay, let's go ahead.
[02:36:08]  And uh, you know, go home for a minute, you know, and regroup, and then come back and continue uh, continue the operation.
[02:36:14]  So we did and we ended up uh, we ended up shedding a few guys.
[02:36:18]  They just uh, weren't up to speed and replacing them with uh, a couple other guys, some green berets uh, who else?
[02:36:25]  Yeah, green berets, another seal, and uh actually, one of the seals is pretty famous as well.
[02:36:30]  Now um, his name was uh.
[02:36:32]  What was his name, uh?
[02:36:34]  Ah, shit.
[02:36:36]  I'm having a brain fart.
[02:36:37]  Danny?
[02:36:37]  I think his name was Dan.
[02:36:39]  Dan.
[02:36:39]  Dan was Dan's last name.
[02:36:41]  I don't know.
[02:36:42]  Famous guy?
[02:36:43]  Yeah, he's pretty.
[02:36:44]  Yeah, he's, yeah.
[02:36:45]  When he showed up, everybody's like that guy, right?
[02:36:47]  So anyways, but he ended up going to Serbia and getting arrested and spent a couple years in jail.
[02:36:52]  He was like in real trouble until his lawyer got killed on the courthouse steps and then he got released.
[02:36:58]  But anyways, we started running ops.
[02:37:01]  We ran a few other ones.
[02:37:02]  But what was interesting is I remember one time when we went back on the second iteration, We kept staying in the same hotel and we were on a little bit of a delay for some reason.
[02:37:14]  And then one morning, one of the SEALs comes to my room.
[02:37:17]  He goes, hey, man, I just got a weird phone call.
[02:37:19]  I go, from who?
[02:37:19]  He goes, well, a friend of mine who works up in Langley.
[02:37:25]  And he's up there.
[02:37:25]  And I go, yeah.
[02:37:26]  And what did he say?
[02:37:26]  He goes, well, he goes, he called.
[02:37:28]  He goes, hey, man, how's it going?
[02:37:29]  He goes, how do you like the Softtail Hotel?
[02:37:33]  And he's like, good.
[02:37:36]  How did you know I'm in the Softtail Hotel?
[02:37:38]  He goes, well, because you're in Abu Dhabi and you got Dale Comstock in the room next door.
[02:37:41]  He's just laying out there like he knows everything.
[02:37:44]  This guy's going, what the hell, right?
[02:37:45]  So.
[02:37:46]  He goes, where are we going with this?
[02:37:49]  He goes, don't worry, man.
[02:37:49]  He goes, we had a big conference this morning, a meeting about your activities, and you're good to go.
[02:37:56]  Just don't take out any of our targets that we're trying to turn.
[02:38:00]  And he's like, well, what target?
[02:38:03]  Click.
[02:38:03]  And that was it.
[02:38:05]  So basically, that was the order.
[02:38:07]  Like, yeah, you're good to go.
[02:38:08]  Just don't take out any guys that we're trying to turn.
[02:38:10]  Because they're still working on trying to turn people over.
[02:38:13]  Case off.
[02:38:14]  Right.
[02:38:14]  Base converter.
[02:38:15]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:38:15]  So I looked at him and I said, well, I guess we'll know we got the wrong target when we get a hellfire up our ass, but, you know, it is what it is.
[02:38:24]  But anyways, so it was quite an experience.
[02:38:27]  Ultimately, I ended up, I couldn't, so Abraham had to leave on other business.
[02:38:33]  He left his second, his partner, the SEAL, in charge, and I couldn't work with the guy.
[02:38:39]  He was just, turns out there was a lot of derog on the guy, derogatory information that I didn't know.
[02:38:44]  Nobody knew until this other SEAL showed up.
[02:38:47]  He shared it all with us like, shit, man.
[02:38:49]  I said, yeah, I'm just watching this guy's behavior, some of the stuff he's doing.
[02:38:54]  I just felt like there's no way I can stay here in good faith and do anything with this organization, with him in charge.
[02:39:01]  So I ended up just leaving is what I ended up doing.
[02:39:02]  Me and actually one of the SEALs walked out together, grabbed our shit, literally walked out of the desert.
[02:39:06]  So I brought it out of here.
[02:39:08]  But that story, so BBC came out with a story on that last year, and they actually interviewed me in Florida.
[02:39:17]  So they called me, and they were actually asking about the Wagner Group.
[02:39:21]  So Wagner Group are messenger names right from Russia.
[02:39:23]  And they were trying to compare them to what we did.
[02:39:26]  You know, they were just being quizzes, you know?
[02:39:28]  And so I obliged them.
[02:39:29]  I said, look, you know, those guys are a bunch of knuckle draggers from jail, blah, blah, blah.
[02:39:33]  You know, you got a choice, die in jail or die on the battlefield.
[02:39:36]  I said, my guys are professionals, okay?
[02:39:38]  And you asked a question about mercenaries.
[02:39:40]  And I made it very clear to the journalist from BBC.
[02:39:43]  I said, we're not mercenaries.
[02:39:45]  We're professional soldiers, okay?
[02:39:47]  I said, don't call me an assassin.
[02:39:49]  Don't call me a mercenary.
[02:39:50]  I'm a professional soldier.
[02:39:51]  I was hired, which is legal, by the way, as an American citizen, you can work for a foreign government as long as that foreign government policies are in alignment with U.S. policies, right?
[02:40:02]  Global war on terror.
[02:40:03]  Yeah.
[02:40:04]  Okay.
[02:40:06]  So I tried to let her know, look, I'm a professional soldier.
[02:40:08]  My men are professional soldiers.
[02:40:09]  These guys are dads, husbands, you know.
[02:40:12]  There's no young guys or middle-aged guys on the team.
[02:40:14]  They're all professionals.
[02:40:15]  We took great care to make sure that there's no collateral damage.
[02:40:19]  We made sure we vetted the targets, that we didn't shoot the wrong target or kill the wrong guy because an old boy had the ass at him because he took his lunch money one time when he was in high school or whatever.
[02:40:28]  I said, you know, we did our due diligence as well.
[02:40:32]  But so she wanted to know if I would do the documentary.
[02:40:36]  And I thought, man, the CEO had already gotten us in trouble because what happened a couple years later after we did the operations, I didn't know this.
[02:40:43]  He went to Reuters and told Reuters that he gave up all our names and phone numbers, told them what we did.
[02:40:49]  And he was trying to pitch this thing as a movie in Hollywood.
[02:40:52]  And how do I know that?
[02:40:53]  Because I know all the Hollywood producers, a lot of them, and they called my management team and like, hey, what is this about?
[02:41:00]  And they saw the pictures, even though my face was obscured, like that's.
[02:41:03]  Comstock, what's so?
[02:41:04]  I know he's trying to make a movie, um, and I know he's trying to use journalists to help prop it up to make the movie, right?
[02:41:10]  So he ratted us all out.
[02:41:12]  None of us knew this.
[02:41:12]  He gave up our names.
[02:41:13]  In fact, one of the guys on my team got shot on Fort Bragg.
[02:41:16]  He's a medic.
[02:41:17]  He was out jogging in a car with Arabs.
[02:41:19]  Literally drove up and shot him right through the gut.
[02:41:21]  Gut shot him.
[02:41:22]  I saw him.
[02:41:22]  The next day, I saw him.
[02:41:24]  He wouldn't go to the hospital because he was a medic.
[02:41:26]  He said, I'm going to take care of this myself.
[02:41:27]  I don't need no more drama.
[02:41:28]  So we meet in Hooters, him and my son.
[02:41:32]  And he's got him stuffed with tampons and shit.
[02:41:35]  He's trying to take antibiotics.
[02:41:36]  You know, yeah.
[02:41:37]  Good lord.
[02:41:39]  So this is what happens when people open their mouth, you know.
[02:41:42]  And this is why I'm really assed up at this dude because he's caused a lot of problems, right?
[02:41:46]  And then I thought it went away.
[02:41:48]  Um, at one point, Elizabeth Warren was running her freaking pie hole about you know, an investigation, blah It's like, you know, go ahead, um, you know, we didn't break any laws, um, but uh, um, so I thought this might be a chance because apparently it's not going away because they kept bringing up this guy's name.
[02:42:06]  I said, you know what, if I don't do it, he's gonna do it.
[02:42:08]  If he does it, we're going to jail because he's just a liar, man.
[02:42:11]  I watched him just to.
[02:42:13]  Glorify this whole thing yeah, so I said i'll do it, because I thought I could definitely tamp it down a little bit.
[02:42:18]  So they showed up um, in may of two years ago yeah uh, 2023.
[02:42:26]  So it's supposed to be the cameraman, the producer and one other person, I think, and then anyways, they're gonna be different.
[02:42:33]  Three days, Panama City Beach Florida, they show up.
[02:42:36]  I'm at this training site where I do some training sometimes and uh they, they go.
[02:42:40]  Hey, it's us blah blah, blah.
[02:42:41]  Oh, by the way, we brought this person with us.
[02:42:44]  Her name's Nawala.
[02:42:44]  She's a journalist.
[02:42:45]  She's actually a Yemeni journalist, right?
[02:42:48]  And good-looking one, but she was pregnant.
[02:42:51]  And also, she hated America.
[02:42:52]  She hated the fact that we even exist.
[02:42:55]  There's no doubt in my mind.
[02:42:57]  I could just feel the tension, man.
[02:42:59]  And she was ready to dig into me, man, on this interview.
[02:43:02]  I kept a nice smile and everything.
[02:43:03]  I was very cordial.
[02:43:05]  And then what happened was, so they want to see me do some training stuff for the footage, B-roll or whatever.
[02:43:11]  And then they wanted me to go to an indoor, take them into an indoor range.
[02:43:16]  And they wanted to film me shooting, right?
[02:43:17]  Actually shooting.
[02:43:18]  Okay.
[02:43:19]  So i'm shooting, um.
[02:43:22]  And then finally, at one point I remember i'm getting a little bored.
[02:43:27]  You know they're filming, you know, do one like that, do one like this.
[02:43:29]  And i'm like hey listen, guys.
[02:43:31]  I said I know you're from England and you guys don't get to shoot guns, you only get to stab people.
[02:43:35]  I said, would you like to try to shoot a gun?
[02:43:36]  You know, i'll show you.
[02:43:37]  So you know they were all cracking up.
[02:43:38]  I go, it's true.
[02:43:40]  So so the uh producer um, or the director sorry well, producer she said I want to do it.
[02:43:46]  So she gets up there and I have her fire about four rounds out of a um, a Glock 17.
[02:43:50]  sorry, clock 19.
[02:43:52]  And I'm very close.
[02:43:53]  I'm controlling it just so there's no accidents.
[02:43:55]  She shot like four rounds and lost her shit, right?
[02:43:57]  She's looking at me.
[02:43:58]  She says, take the gun, take the gun, take the gun.
[02:44:00]  So I take the gun from her.
[02:44:01]  She runs out the building, literally goes to the car, never comes back.
[02:44:03]  So I clear the weapon.
[02:44:04]  I look at the rest of the crew.
[02:44:06]  I guess we're done.
[02:44:07]  Like, yeah, I guess we're done.
[02:44:08]  So we pack up and shit.
[02:44:09]  We go back to my home and they're setting up to do the interview inside my living room.
[02:44:14]  She comes out of the bathroom and I go, hey, I said, well, so what'd you think about shooting?
[02:44:19]  She goes, I don't ever want to do that again.
[02:44:21]  I was mortified.
[02:44:22]  She goes, this thing was so big and black.
[02:44:24]  Powerful and she's like freaking out right yeah, and everybody's watching and listening and I thought, you know, i'll make this a teachable moment right, maybe they'll keep put this on video.
[02:44:33]  I doubt they'll actually put this out, but you know.
[02:44:35]  So this is what I said to her.
[02:44:36]  I said, you know what I said, let me show you something.
[02:44:38]  I said, you know what this gun represents?
[02:44:40]  And she goes what I said in your mind, it represents power right, it's big, not that big, but it's big black, goes bang, makes a lot of noise.
[02:44:50]  Power kills people right, I said, and the problem is, you don't want nothing to do with it, like most people in America, not most, but half the country, they want to get rid of it because, right?
[02:44:59]  Get rid of this thing is bad, right?
[02:45:01]  And so I said, but if I teach you how to shoot this gun, control the gun, clear the gun, handle it safely, I said, guess what happens to the power of the gun?
[02:45:08]  The power of the gun gets transferred to you, right?
[02:45:10]  It has no more power.
[02:45:11]  Have all the power.
[02:45:11]  See, guns don't kill people.
[02:45:12]  People kill people.
[02:45:13]  Now that you have control, the gun is harmless unless you pull the trigger right and shoot somebody with it.
[02:45:19]  So I thought it was a pretty good, pretty teachable moment, right?
[02:45:22]  She's like looking at me like wow, everybody like yeah wow, that makes sense, like really yeah, I mean, it seems like common sense right, but apparently it's not so common after all.
[02:45:30]  So yeah, they didn't put that in the in the BBC documentary, but uh, it came out she can't.
[02:45:35]  So then they interviewed me um later on and uh, they thought they had the aha moment, right.
[02:45:40]  So Nawala, she goes.
[02:45:42]  I got the list, the target list, the only target list.
[02:45:45]  And why would you guys attempt to kill a woman or women?
[02:45:50]  I go, huh?
[02:45:50]  What are you talking about?
[02:45:52]  She goes, yeah.
[02:45:52]  She goes, there's women on the list.
[02:45:54]  One of them is a humanitarian.
[02:45:55]  She got all these awards, blah, I said, there's no women on the list.
[02:45:59]  She goes, yes, there is.
[02:46:00]  Yes, there is.
[02:46:00]  She's trying to hold me, too.
[02:46:01]  I said, another night.
[02:46:01]  So finally, I said, I got lucky a couple of things.
[02:46:04]  So I said, well, hold on for a sec.
[02:46:05]  So I get on my phone, speaker phone.
[02:46:07]  I called one of the mercenaries.
[02:46:09]  He's a French Foreign Legionnaire.
[02:46:11]  And I said, hey, Paul.
[02:46:13]  I said, hey, by the way, remember that target list?
[02:46:16]  He goes, yeah.
[02:46:16]  He goes, what was that one chick, man?
[02:46:18]  Do you remember her name that was on there?
[02:46:20]  He goes, no, there were no girls on there.
[02:46:21]  No, no, that one.
[02:46:22]  He goes, no, there's no, he sure was no girl.
[02:46:24]  Positive, there's no girl.
[02:46:24]  What are you talking about?
[02:46:26]  I said, nothing.
[02:46:26]  I said, by the way, BBC's here.
[02:46:28]  They said there's a target list with chicks on it.
[02:46:30]  He goes, that's bullshit.
[02:46:30]  He loads on the other hand, right?
[02:46:31]  And I look at her.
[02:46:33]  She's like, ugh.
[02:46:34]  And so then she tried to get me for some other stuff, right?
[02:46:37]  She said, oh, well, you killed the governor of Aden with a car bomb.
[02:46:40]  In fact, she tried to implicate me in like 30 car bombings.
[02:46:43]  I go, really?
[02:46:43]  Jesus.
[02:46:45]  So lucky for me, on my phone, I had the intel report, right?
[02:46:50]  I said, I didn't kill the governor.
[02:46:53]  She said, oh, yes, your dad.
[02:46:55]  And 30 other guys.
[02:46:55]  I said, okay, let's start with this.
[02:46:57]  I said, right here.
[02:46:58]  I said, here's a report.
[02:46:59]  I said, from Al Qaeda, killing the governor of Aden on November 7th of 2015.
[02:47:06]  Okay.
[02:47:06]  And they're taking responsibility for killing him in his car.
[02:47:08]  I said, and you know, when we showed up was December 15th.
[02:47:12]  Right.
[02:47:12]  And so how did I kill him?
[02:47:14]  And she's like, and I showed her the newspaper clippings and everything.
[02:47:17]  Right.
[02:47:18]  And she's like, oh.
[02:47:19]  And then she tried to pin me with all the other ones.
[02:47:20]  And I just, I said, lady, the only car I blew was my own.
[02:47:23]  Right.
[02:47:23]  That's the only one that blew up.
[02:47:24]  I didn't kill nobody in their car, right, and all that bullshit.
[02:47:26]  Right, right.
[02:47:27]  But that's kind of where this thing started unfolding.
[02:47:29]  But actually, I had her, I think she kind of backed off because if you watch the documentary, she's pretty, she doesn't have a lot to say to me after that.
[02:47:37]  You know, she's kind of being nice because I've treated her with respect anyways.
[02:47:41]  But the other guy, she asked him, she says, well, how many, how many missions did you do?
[02:47:46]  Did you do more than 30?
[02:47:47]  And he goes, well, you know, can't really talk about that.
[02:47:51]  Fucking arrogant seal, right?
[02:47:53]  And I'm like, yes, you can, asshole.

=== Responsibility for Killing Targets (04:42) ===

[02:47:54]  Say you did one.
[02:47:55]  Just one.
[02:47:56]  That's all you got to say.
[02:47:58]  Right?
[02:47:58]  We know it's one.
[02:47:59]  Why do you have to go, well, it could be more than 30 because all you're doing now suggests that we did more than 30.
[02:48:04]  In fact, they said we did 160.
[02:48:05]  Right.
[02:48:06]  I was like, huh?
[02:48:07]  I wasn't even there that long.
[02:48:08]  Right.
[02:48:08]  So anyways, that's that story.
[02:48:10]  You can look it on the internet.
[02:48:12]  And yeah.
[02:48:13]  So that's the problem when you mix politics with all of this stuff, you know?
[02:48:18]  And then there's, you know, there's also like the moral question, which most people don't understand, which is it takes a certain kind of guy.
[02:48:24]  To do the things that you have done and people like you have done, you know?
[02:48:29]  And no one really understands that.
[02:48:31]  People, I mean, you think like, yeah, it's got to take like a psychopath or a sociopath to be able to sneak into somebody's house and cut their throat at night, right?
[02:48:42]  Like, that's a terrible thing.
[02:48:43]  Like, how could you reconcile that with, you know, your morals or your religion or whatever it is?
[02:48:48]  Like, how could you think of yourself as a good person when you're doing that?
[02:48:51]  But like, there's a huge difference between guys who can do stuff like that.
[02:48:56]  And literally recruiting teenagers to sit in a military base in Las Vegas and push buttons on drones that are blowing up entire buildings.
[02:49:06]  You know, like on one hand, you have like you're disconnected from this death and destruction.
[02:49:11]  And on the other hand, the kid who's doing this is going to end up having all kinds of psychological issues down the road, which happens with a lot of people, like young kids, like just joining the military and going to war when like the real reason they're doing it is because they might not have many other options, right?
[02:49:26]  Or like they were maybe pushed into it from, you know, by somebody else, some different kind of like influence in their life.
[02:49:31]  And then, you know, there's guys like you who like, I want this, you know?
[02:49:37]  Yeah.
[02:49:37]  Um, The thing about the drone pilots, right?
[02:49:42]  That's kind of an interesting phenomenon because when I went to the unit before, when I was going through selection and I was going to go, I'm ready to go in front of the board.
[02:49:50]  I had to do one more interview with a psychologist.
[02:49:54]  And the question he asked me, he goes, if you have to shoot a man, would you rather do it up close, like with a .45, or from far away, like with a rifle?
[02:50:03]  And I thought about it for a little, just to make sure it wasn't a trick question.
[02:50:06]  I thought about it.
[02:50:06]  I said, I'd rather shoot him from a distance.
[02:50:09]  He goes, why?
[02:50:10]  I said, it's less personal, right?
[02:50:12]  Because now you're just a target.
[02:50:14]  Up close, I see your face, right?
[02:50:17]  And I see human.
[02:50:18]  From a distance, I dehumanize you, right?
[02:50:23]  So, you know, you're just the target.
[02:50:26]  So with the drone operators, now I don't know what they're dealing with.
[02:50:30]  I have no idea.
[02:50:31]  I've never met a real drone operator that's doing this kind of stuff.
[02:50:34]  I would imagine there might, yeah, you're right.
[02:50:36]  If a guy has some, look, there's a difference between a guy like me that goes out and can shoot people in the face.
[02:50:43]  Yeah.
[02:50:43]  All right.
[02:50:43]  And there's a difference between a guy that can play video games from afar.
[02:50:46]  He killed people that just looked like a target, right?
[02:50:48]  But they're not really human.
[02:50:50]  Maybe the day will come where this drone operator will realize, actually, I actually killed people, right?
[02:50:56]  So I killed fathers and sons and brothers, maybe women and children too, on a battlefield, some far distant country.
[02:51:05]  So I would imagine maybe at some point, they might have to reconcile that.
[02:51:11]  Somebody right away can't deal with it.
[02:51:13]  Maybe some for some, it'll haunt them later on.
[02:51:15]  For some, maybe it'll never haunt them.
[02:51:17]  The question I always pose to me is, how do I feel about things I've done?
[02:51:21]  I'll tell you this.
[02:51:22]  I'm 100% disabled veteran, 100% PTSD, among other things.
[02:51:28]  And I don't have PTSD because I kill somebody or they almost kill me.
[02:51:35]  None of that bothers me because when you go to, if you really are a warrior, combat, a warrior, soldier, you go in there knowing what you're getting into.
[02:51:44]  It's like being a boxer.
[02:51:46]  I didn't become a professional boxer by being afraid.
[02:51:49]  I went in knowing what's going to happen to me.
[02:51:51]  Okay.
[02:51:52]  And I went in and I fought because I enjoyed it.
[02:51:55]  Sounds kind of okay.
[02:51:55]  Maybe a little sick, but I enjoyed the sport.
[02:51:58]  I enjoyed the combat.
[02:51:59]  Same thing with this.
[02:52:00]  I enjoy combat.
[02:52:02]  I enjoy leveraging all my skills, my tactics, my weapon systems and everything and meeting the enemy.
[02:52:08]  This is why in Aden, we didn't have anything.
[02:52:12]  I had a 30-year-old Chicom AK-47.
[02:52:15]  Literally Vietnam vintage shit is what I had.
[02:52:16]  I had to make all my gear to carry my magazines.
[02:52:19]  We all did, right?
[02:52:20]  supervised everything.
[02:52:21]  We were no better equipped and armed than Al Qaeda.
[02:52:24]  We're going to go on the battlefield with the same tools, right?
[02:52:28]  Same Nikes.
[02:52:29]  But the difference was going to be who is the better soldier.
[02:52:32]  And that's right.
[02:52:32]  I know I am, right?
[02:52:33]  So I'm going to beat them all day long because I'm actually a soldier.
[02:52:35]  They're just a bunch of goons, right?

=== Vietnam Vintage Gear in Aden (12:12) ===

[02:52:37]  And so I look at it like that.
[02:52:43]  And so I sleep good at night, not because of what I've done.
[02:52:48]  I sleep good because of what I didn't do.
[02:52:50]  I didn't murder nobody.
[02:52:52]  People that had it coming had it coming.
[02:52:53]  They deserved it.
[02:52:54]  And the other thing, but the thing that probably bothers me more than anything else, and this is what doesn't trigger me anymore so much, the PTSD, it's not seeing combatants getting killed and you're killing them and them all killing you.
[02:53:09]  It's actually when you start seeing the collateral effect, when you start seeing dead women and children and babies crying and people screaming, you know, that are affected by this, that's the part that you take home.
[02:53:20]  Because if you're already a father, like I am, and you're married and just think of your family, right?
[02:53:28]  You're like, man, you know, like there's one example.
[02:53:30]  I was up in Tikrit, Saddam's home city, right?
[02:53:33]  Hometown.
[02:53:34]  And there was a daylight assault.
[02:53:36]  And I was going to lead the unit, right?
[02:53:40]  And a daylight assault on this guy that we know was an IED maker.
[02:53:44]  And, but they lived in these row houses over there.
[02:53:48]  You know, they're all connected.
[02:53:49]  It's like one long wall.
[02:53:51]  It's hard to tell which one is which.
[02:53:52]  They all look alike, right?
[02:53:53]  And so I had to go in and do a, what you call a CTR, a close target reconnaissance.
[02:53:58]  So basically, I'm going to go in dressed up like an Arab, you know, hodge it out in my pickup truck, and I'm going to drive by his house and look at it and positively identify it, PID.
[02:54:07]  Oh, yeah, that's him.
[02:54:08]  That's the car.
[02:54:08]  That's blah, blah, blah.
[02:54:09]  Okay, good.
[02:54:10]  I know my way in.
[02:54:11]  I know the way out.
[02:54:12]  Then I go back.
[02:54:13]  I pick them up.
[02:54:13]  They follow me in.
[02:54:16]  And so that's what we did.
[02:54:17]  And as we go in, there was a red car parked there, and now it's not there.
[02:54:21]  In a little bit of time, it was gone.
[02:54:22]  That was kind of one of my reference points.
[02:54:24]  But I didn't just count on that, but it just made everything look different.
[02:54:27]  There's no more red car here right, and all these buildings are white.
[02:54:30]  And so I pull up, i'm like ah, and i'm hoping i'm getting this one right.
[02:54:34]  And I did get it right, because as soon as I slow down, the guys behind me start bailing out and uh, they're going in full bore man through the front gates and stuff, and there's this little kid there on the street, on sidewalk, about two years old, and it turns out it's the target son and he's just coming, unhinged man kid, screaming his, you know, oh my god, mouth wide open.
[02:54:56]  You know he's two years old, he just, he's just freaking, you know, mortified man.
[02:55:00]  And then You know, these guys are going in and I'm out of the vehicle and I got my weapon in hand, starting to, you know, prepare to pick up security for them.
[02:55:09]  And then I look over this kid and all I could see was my two-year-old son standing there.
[02:55:14]  Right.
[02:55:15]  And I remember my kid crying like that one time when I left him at the daycare.
[02:55:19]  And it just kind of like just all came flashing back because I felt so bad when I left him at the daycare because he's looking out the window screaming.
[02:55:25]  His mouth was wide open.
[02:55:26]  Daddy, you know, that kind of thing.
[02:55:28]  And I had to leave him because I got to go to work.
[02:55:29]  You know, what am I going to do?
[02:55:30]  And that was so hard to, you know, to do that.
[02:55:33]  And I'm sure a lot of parents can identify with that.
[02:55:35]  And so I always see this kid that reminds me of my own kid, the same crying on his face and screaming.
[02:55:41]  It just brought back all these emotions, man.
[02:55:43]  All I could do was just run over there and grab him.
[02:55:45]  I pick him up in my arm.
[02:55:46]  I'm kind of holding him.
[02:55:47]  Got the rifle in my other hand trying to pull security.
[02:55:49]  Like, come on, my little buddy's going to be okay.
[02:55:51]  And they're in there going and tightening up his dad.
[02:55:54]  And so those are the kind of things that can have a real impact on your emotions and stuff like that.
[02:56:05]  What ended up happening to the kid?
[02:56:08]  Actually, after they picked him up, we went in.
[02:56:13]  We didn't take the women, right?
[02:56:14]  So we only wanted the guy, right?
[02:56:16]  So there's women in the house, whatever.
[02:56:19]  Hey, here's a little boy, right?
[02:56:20]  Take care of him, that type of thing.
[02:56:21]  So we usually just left him.
[02:56:24]  Can't take him out.
[02:56:25]  Dad's going away probably for a very long time.
[02:56:28]  But, you know, those are kind of things that, you know, you get caught.
[02:56:31]  Like another example, I'll use Afghanistan.
[02:56:36]  I remember one time, so we're in a we're in a base camp, a very small base camp.
[02:56:42]  It's just me and 10 or 11 other Americans.
[02:56:46]  Two of us are shooters.
[02:56:49]  The rest are just support logs, stuff like that.
[02:56:51]  And we are at 7,000 feet elevation on the side of a, on the ridge of a high mountain.
[02:56:59]  And then we put an OP, a listening post, observation post at 9,000 feet on the tip.
[02:57:03]  We put a platoon up there, right?
[02:57:05]  They're behind HESCO sandbags, right?
[02:57:07]  And their job was provide overwatch.
[02:57:09]  They could see 360, you know, and give us some top cover if we needed.
[02:57:12]  And we rotate them out every month.
[02:57:15]  So next month, another platoon will come up there.
[02:57:17]  And so what was happening was, so we're on this side of the mountain.
[02:57:21]  OPs up here and then on this side of the mountain down here is a Taliban village.
[02:57:24]  So the Taliban, every morning they would do two things.
[02:57:27]  One, they would lob mortars over the mountain on top of us and then I would have to run out and grab my mortar section and lob mortars back.
[02:57:32]  And then the other thing they'd do was send Taliban up the side and they would start sniping our guys in the OP position, start shooting them, right?
[02:57:38]  And they had, there's like three or four different ways they could get up there, right?
[02:57:41]  Trails.
[02:57:42]  But it was all ended in a certain same area and that's where they'd shoot from.
[02:57:45]  And so I've been there for a while now.
[02:57:48]  Now I'm getting a little annoyed, you know, it's like, you know, I hate, because they always do it at 4.30 in the morning.
[02:57:52]  You know why they do it at 4.30 in the morning?
[02:57:53]  Well, one, that's when the sun comes up.
[02:57:55]  And two, that's when they have their prayer call.
[02:57:57]  They're all going to go pray.
[02:57:58]  So they're like, hey, guys, go to church and pray.
[02:58:00]  And hey, why don't you throw some mortars at those guys on the way, right?
[02:58:03]  So it was like a morning event, right?
[02:58:04]  I was way on some mosque or whatever, right?
[02:58:06]  Yeah.
[02:58:08]  And so, and then, you know, they wake Dale up at 4.30.
[02:58:10]  I want to sleep, you know.
[02:58:11]  And, you know, so I got to get out of bed.
[02:58:13]  So now I'm hungry and mad.
[02:58:16]  Right.
[02:58:17]  So one day I decided, you know what?
[02:58:20]  They're popping our guys up there and I need to do something about it.
[02:58:25]  So I took a patrol of my Afghans with me.
[02:58:27]  We go up there and I have them stay back, pull security.
[02:58:32]  And then what I do is I go over to where I know Taliban's been coming up and taking sniper shots, right?
[02:58:37]  So I know where the trails are.
[02:58:39]  And so I booby trap all the trails, right?
[02:58:42]  I put tripwire on her, hand grenades.
[02:58:44]  I set it all up.
[02:58:45]  So anybody comes there is going to get fragged, right?
[02:58:46]  They come up there and got all set up.
[02:58:50]  And then my guys didn't know where I put it.
[02:58:52]  I intentionally didn't tell them because, like I said earlier, sometimes we had actually Taliban in our ranks.
[02:58:58]  So why I don't want to expose this information to possible Taliban guy, right?
[02:59:02]  So then they come up and get free hand grenades if they don't get blown up by one.
[02:59:07]  So we leave.
[02:59:08]  We go back down to the base.
[02:59:09]  I got to leave within two days or something like that, go home for vacation for 30 days.
[02:59:14]  And so I take off.
[02:59:16]  I come back and my contemporary is still there.
[02:59:20]  His name was Dave.
[02:59:21]  Dave and I were always at the same camp together, right?
[02:59:23]  Dave was a former Green Beret, really jolly old guy.
[02:59:28]  Just a really good guy, man.
[02:59:29]  Very funny, told jokes.
[02:59:31]  The life of the camp.
[02:59:32]  He actually committed suicide in uh, Southern Pines, North Carolina, when they just walked outside and shot himself with a 45 and got it over with.
[02:59:39]  Yeah, I knew, I knew he had some things going on, but I didn't know there was that much going on.
[02:59:43]  But uh, so I remember coming back and he's already there.
[02:59:46]  I said, hey Dave, what's going on?
[02:59:47]  I said um, you know, and normally what we do is we give each other a sit rep, an update of what happened in the last 30 days while you're gone.
[02:59:53]  Okay, this is what we've been doing.
[02:59:54]  Blah blah, blah.
[02:59:55]  I go.
[02:59:55]  So uh, I said how my booby traps work out and he was really cavalier about it.
[03:00:00]  He said, let me see you kill a goat and a little boy.
[03:00:03]  I was like, stop.
[03:00:04]  What?
[03:00:05]  He goes, yeah, you kill a little boy and a goat.
[03:00:07]  And I said, tell me more.
[03:00:10]  And so apparently what happened was, I say a little boy, he was about 14.
[03:00:15]  And his dad sent him up there to basically recover spent brass, unexplained UXO, anything they could salvage, right, for make money.
[03:00:25]  You know, brass, stuff like that, right?
[03:00:27]  So Pops knew that, you know, there's stuff laying up there.
[03:00:30]  And he sent little Johnny up to go collect it all and bring it back.
[03:00:32]  Well, little Johnny went up there.
[03:00:35]  After the goat walked through one of my booby traps, he walked through one of them and killed him.
[03:00:40]  And now the weird part is, and I still don't, I've never gotten the answer on this, but so Dave told me they found the boy's body down in the dump.
[03:00:48]  I said, that makes no sense because Muslims, they have a, basically, they're required to bury their dead within 24 hours, right?
[03:00:57]  So why would they put them in a dump?
[03:00:58]  Something's not adding up.
[03:00:59]  It didn't make any sense.
[03:01:00]  So he goes, well, he goes, well, then the father says, ah, well, went out.
[03:01:05]  She goes, so I got another one.
[03:01:06]  He's 10 years old.
[03:01:07]  You get your ass up there.
[03:01:08]  So he sends the 10-year-old up there, right?
[03:01:11]  He walks through a booby trap, takes a leg off.
[03:01:13]  Oh, my God.
[03:01:15]  So I said, so I got killed one, wounded one, and a goat.
[03:01:18]  He goes, yeah.
[03:01:20]  And I had to do some soul searching.
[03:01:21]  I was like, is that something I want to keep doing?
[03:01:23]  Do I want to leave those booby traps up there?
[03:01:25]  Because the intent was to kill the bad guys and save, protect the good guys, right?
[03:01:31]  Because I got soldiers up there that are fathers, husbands, brothers.
[03:01:35]  Their soldiers are loyal.
[03:01:36]  They go to combat.
[03:01:37]  They go to fight with me.
[03:01:41]  I need to protect them, right?
[03:01:42]  So that's what I was trying to do.
[03:01:45]  And so, but this was what happens.
[03:01:47]  And so, So after doing a little bit of soul searching, I thought about it.
[03:01:51]  I thought about it.
[03:01:51]  I was like, you know what?
[03:01:52]  Those guys are just going to have to do a better job of protecting themselves or hiding behind a sandbag.
[03:01:56]  I said, that's it, man.
[03:01:57]  I said, I'm going to go back up there and disassemble everything.
[03:02:00]  So I took the patrol back with me.
[03:02:01]  But this time when I got up there, in that 30 days that I was gone, there was a 115 or 155 artillery strike on that hilltop because somebody called it in because the Taliban was up there, right?
[03:02:13]  So when I got up there, I didn't recognize anything.
[03:02:15]  All the trees were split in half and branches.
[03:02:17]  It was a big mess.
[03:02:19]  I'm like, holy shit.
[03:02:21]  But I knew the booby traps were probably still hanging in there, right?
[03:02:23]  So I look it'd be very irresponsible for me to leave those things there.
[03:02:27]  I just leave them there.
[03:02:28]  Somebody's going to get killed one day right, um?
[03:02:30]  And so I can't do that responsibly.
[03:02:33]  I can't do that right, I gotta, I gotta recover the share, make an attempt.
[03:02:35]  So I go out there, sure enough man whoo, someone were just hanging by a thread.
[03:02:40]  I'm like oh, my god man, it's like, get a strong breeze, I might get vaporized here.
[03:02:44]  So I, I sneak up to these things and see the pins are already out.
[03:02:48]  So what's holding them together actually was the spoon on the hand grenade, and I and I put it back into.
[03:02:54]  They come in these cans right, um?
[03:02:56]  And you slide the hangar in the can.
[03:02:57]  So the hangar, hangar grenade was armed, but inside the can it has uh tripwire on it that was tied off to another hangar grenade over here or to a tree or whatever a stationary point.
[03:03:07]  And when you walk through the wire you pull the grenade out, it pulls up, it flips the uh spoon and it goes off.
[03:03:12]  Right well god well apparently, what happened?
[03:03:16]  Mine were all doubles, right.
[03:03:17]  So if you get, if you pull the grenades out.
[03:03:20]  They're going to wrap around your ankles like like a bolo and you're not going to get them off.
[03:03:23]  You're going to get, you're going to die right, you're gonna have two hand grenades hanging around your feet trying to wobble away, right.
[03:03:28]  So you know, I was able to go up and sneak up and catch a couple of them and then I just threw them down the mountain over at the side where the Taliban was, let them have it right, rain on them.
[03:03:36]  But I did recover it.
[03:03:36]  But the um, but what's trying?
[03:03:39]  The point i'm trying to make about all that is, those are the kind of things that I think about.
[03:03:43]  You know um, you always think about that.
[03:03:45]  It's like, god man, do you know um, you don't get to.
[03:03:49]  You don't get to escape war if you're, if you're, if you're a combatant, if you're a combat soldier, If you're out, the guy that's slinging lead, with the bad guys at very close ranges, you don't get to escape war without something mental going on after that, man.
[03:04:08]  You got to carry something with you, right?
[03:04:10]  And for me, it wasn't the fear of dying.
[03:04:12]  It wasn't killing bad guys.
[03:04:14]  It was like watching innocent people suffer, you know?
[03:04:18]  And that's the hard part, man, because you know why I can relate to that?
[03:04:20]  Because I have a family, you know?
[03:04:23]  And when I see these people, I'm thinking my kids, my wife is like, man, I watch women.
[03:04:28]  screaming, oh my God, man, I've never heard women scream like that in horror and fear and stuff as we're taking out their freaking brothers and husbands.
[03:04:36]  And, you know, it's like, ah, you know, and I'm mad at the men.
[03:04:40]  It's like, why would you put your women in this position?
[03:04:43]  You know, why would you do that, man?
[03:04:45]  You know, idiots.
[03:04:47]  But they don't care.
[03:04:48]  They don't care.

=== Dog Training and Body Odor (12:51) ===

[03:04:50]  It's some type of sickness for sure.
[03:04:53]  Do you believe in God?
[03:04:55]  I believe in a higher power.
[03:04:56]  I'm glad you asked that question too.
[03:04:57]  I'm very transparent, Bob.
[03:04:58]  You can ask anything you want.
[03:04:59]  I don't care.
[03:05:00]  I got nothing to hide.
[03:05:02]  I believe in a higher power.
[03:05:03]  So when we first sat down and started talking today, we were talking a little bit about supplements and alternative medicine and stuff like that, right?
[03:05:10]  So a little bit more about my background.
[03:05:13]  I have a PhD in alternative medicine and natural health.
[03:05:16]  I got a master's degree in business and organizational security management with a bachelor's degree in education.
[03:05:22]  And I'm really intrigued by longevity.
[03:05:25]  And, you know, I want to know how to live longer, healthier, and be as effective as I am today.
[03:05:32]  I'm 62 now.
[03:05:33]  And so.
[03:05:34]  You look fucking great, bro.
[03:05:35]  Thanks.
[03:05:36]  And it's been, well, I've had my PhD now for about 20 something years.
[03:05:42]  And by the way, I earned my PhD downrange, the entire PhD downrange.
[03:05:46]  I bring my study materials.
[03:05:47]  If I was not shooting bad guys, lifting weights, or sleeping, I was studying.
[03:05:52]  So.
[03:05:53]  Here's what here's my thoughts on to ask you a question is there a God higher power?
[03:05:57]  Yeah I Think God's within all of us, okay, and that okay, that's kind of a sounds like I'm kind of being elusive, but The world that we live in the universe that we live in everything is frequency everything is energy everything's vibrating this wooden table right here if you were to get down really far down in a microscope You'll realize all those atoms have space.
[03:06:16]  They're all moving they're all vibrating right nothing's actually solid you me.
[03:06:19]  We're not solid.
[03:06:22]  Everything has its own frequency.
[03:06:23]  Everything has some type of frequency to it, some type of broadband frequency.
[03:06:27]  Um, you asked me earlier, so i'll tie this into the canine thing, the dogs right, how do dogs smell?
[03:06:32]  Uh, explosives.
[03:06:32]  How you train them?
[03:06:33]  Yeah, so this is all.
[03:06:34]  I'm gonna tie all this together um so so, for example, canines when they pick up an odor, okay, every odor has a broadband frequency okay um, what that means is, for example, how do I train a dog to find you and track you through a thousand people, a crowd of thousand people?
[03:06:58]  Okay.
[03:06:59]  He smells you, whatever.
[03:07:00]  You take off, you run zigzag through the crowd.
[03:07:02]  And then a few minutes later, I send the dog and we track or trail you through the group.
[03:07:09]  Okay.
[03:07:10]  How does he know your scent from everybody else's scent?
[03:07:13]  Because everybody's odor is like a signature.
[03:07:16]  We all have a very unique odor, all the way down at the very chemical level, right?
[03:07:21]  And it has to do with frequency.
[03:07:22]  So every odor. or every slight change of an odor has a slight change of frequency.
[03:07:29]  So what the dog is doing, so now the other thing that happens, we shed about a million skin cells a day.
[03:07:34]  Okay, they're just flopping off.
[03:07:35]  We don't see them, but we're shedding shit all the time, right?
[03:07:37]  So these skin cells, which it's biological, but it hits the ground, and guess what happens?
[03:07:42]  It starts to decay.
[03:07:44]  Bacteria starts to consume it.
[03:07:45]  It starts to gas off.
[03:07:46]  You get gas coming up.
[03:07:47]  The gas has its own frequency, okay, because of your skin.
[03:07:52]  And the dog is literally picking up, Your odor, right, is different from everybody else.
[03:07:57]  So he's following this wake of odor, which has your frequency in it.
[03:08:02]  So the dog actually sees the world through his nose as you and I see it through our eyes.
[03:08:06]  So everything we look at is color.
[03:08:09]  I mean, it's frequency, right?
[03:08:10]  So we only see about 3% of the color on the electromagnetic spectrum, right?
[03:08:16]  So we're blind to the other 97.
[03:08:18]  The 3% we do see, we actually don't see it.
[03:08:20]  What we're doing is our photoreceptors are picking up the light frequency, the light waves.
[03:08:24]  Right.
[03:08:25]  Right.
[03:08:25]  Converting it and then basically creating an image of what we see, what we consciously think it is.
[03:08:30]  And by the way, that's all relative.
[03:08:32]  What I see, what you see may be something completely different.
[03:08:34]  Because what we do is you convert that frequency and basically project it like on the back of the visual cortex.
[03:08:39]  And we see something, right?
[03:08:40]  Yep.
[03:08:41]  So we do that visually.
[03:08:43]  We rely on our eyes more than we do our nose, right?
[03:08:46]  Now, a canine does the opposite.
[03:08:48]  He relies on his nose more than he does his eyes.
[03:08:50]  He's many times better at smelling things than we are.
[03:08:52]  So here's another example.
[03:08:54]  There's stories out there like this.
[03:08:56]  By the way, it's not me making this up.
[03:08:57]  So a family goes from, let's just say drives from, North Carolina to California, and they got Fido in the car with the family it's gonna be a, you know, vacation for you know out to California.
[03:09:07]  So driving along the way halfway out there um, you know, take the dog out to go poop or something at the rest stop and then poop.
[03:09:12]  The Fido's gone and they lost him.
[03:09:14]  They can't find it.
[03:09:15]  Like, where'd you go?
[03:09:15]  It's gone.
[03:09:16]  Well, I can't wait, i'm gonna go.
[03:09:17]  So they leave, come back to North Carolina a few weeks later, a couple months later, the dog shows up at the front porch.
[03:09:22]  Like how did that happen?
[03:09:23]  How do you, how do you know how to find his way back?
[03:09:25]  Because he was in the back of the car, sleeping most of the time.
[03:09:27]  Yeah right, that's what dogs do right now.
[03:09:29]  Here's what, how it happens.
[03:09:31]  So you're driving along, you're seeing road signs, street signs, you're seeing terrain features, you're seeing prominent things, right, that you won't forget.
[03:09:38]  You know, like, yeah, you're in Pittsburgh right now, wherever, right, big sign.
[03:09:41]  You're seeing this thing, this bridge, this blah, blah, blah, right?
[03:09:44]  So you're picking everything in, you're remembering it with your mind.
[03:09:47]  Well, the dog's laying back there, he's picking up odor along the way.
[03:09:51]  Every odor has its frequency.
[03:09:53]  So what he does is, so he's literally seeing what you're seeing, but he's seeing it through his nose because he's picking up frequency.
[03:09:59]  Even while he's sleeping?
[03:10:01]  Yeah.
[03:10:01]  Wow.
[03:10:02]  To some degree, right?
[03:10:03]  Like we can hear things when we're sleeping, right?
[03:10:05]  We don't always act on it, but we can hear shit when we're sleeping, right?
[03:10:08]  So, right.
[03:10:09]  Um, so what happened is the dog goes, Huh, he doesn't know how to go forward because he doesn't have any scent memory going forward, but he does have scent memory going backwards.
[03:10:18]  So, he so he versus it falls it back.
[03:10:21]  That's so interesting because I think it's been proven that, uh, the number one sense that we have that is most directly correlated with memory is smell.
[03:10:33]  You know, that's why you smell.
[03:10:35]  Things, random things you haven't smelt in years.
[03:10:36]  And you're like, all of a sudden, it shoots back all these memories into your brain.
[03:10:39]  Yeah, exactly.
[03:10:40]  That's fascinating.
[03:10:41]  So that's kind of how the dog works, right?
[03:10:43]  So now, what's interesting is if you have a dog, your pet dog, and let's just say you position him 100 yards away, somebody's holding him, all of a sudden, you walk out.
[03:10:55]  Wow.
[03:10:56]  The dog goes, Is that my master?
[03:10:58]  Right?
[03:10:59]  I think it's my master.
[03:10:59]  He starts wagging his tail and then he runs to you.
[03:11:03]  Usually, what he will do as soon as he gets to you, He'll sniff your hand or sniff your body.
[03:11:08]  He'll take a lungful to confirm it's you.
[03:11:10]  He trusts his nose more than he does his eyes.
[03:11:13]  So when I train dogs in explosives, for example, every explosive, C4, TNT, whatever it is, all has its own broadband frequency.
[03:11:21]  So I train the dog just to pick up on those frequencies, right?
[03:11:25]  Individually.
[03:11:26]  I start individually, and sometimes I compound them together.
[03:11:30]  But basically, the dog knows that, okay, if I find this particular odor, what I do is I, I basically trick him right.
[03:11:39]  So I, for example, i'll put the odor in a box.
[03:11:42]  The dog likes the tennis ball.
[03:11:43]  He's really interested in the tennis ball.
[03:11:44]  He doesn't know anything about this odor thing yet.
[03:11:46]  And I said, he went the ball, went the ball boy.
[03:11:48]  I put it in a box right, he runs over there and I stick it out this hole.
[03:11:51]  He sees, he tries to get to it when we put his nose in there.
[03:11:53]  He also gets a whiff, a whiff of this, uh explosive right yeah, but he doesn't think anything about the explosive yeah, he just wants the ball right.
[03:12:01]  And then I handle the throwing the ball.
[03:12:02]  He goes, he's all happy right yeah, and then over.
[03:12:04]  I keep repeating that, his classical conditioning.
[03:12:07]  Eventually, what happens is He starts to associate the smell with the tennis ball.
[03:12:11]  Yep.
[03:12:11]  Right.
[03:12:12]  Then I don't put the tennis ball anymore, but he just smells it.
[03:12:14]  Right.
[03:12:15]  And I've also now conditioned to sit down when he smells the tennis ball.
[03:12:18]  Right.
[03:12:18]  So now he sits, but I don't, where's the tennis ball at?
[03:12:20]  And also the tennis ball comes from behind.
[03:12:22]  So my throws behind him.
[03:12:23]  Oh, there it is.
[03:12:23]  Right.
[03:12:24]  So he learns how to basically sit when he smells an odor because it's associated with the tennis ball, which is the reward.
[03:12:30]  And the reward is actually what it does.
[03:12:32]  It stimulates his prey drive.
[03:12:34]  So the reasons dog chase balls and some are better than others because they have a high prey drive.
[03:12:38]  It's a hunting drive, right?
[03:12:39]  They go crazy over hunting.
[03:12:41]  If the ball is moving, it drives them nuts.
[03:12:43]  Some dogs don't care about hunting, right?
[03:12:45]  They just lost that whatever, that drive.
[03:12:46]  They don't have it.
[03:12:48]  So you have to use, for example, food incentive, right?
[03:12:50]  If they're hungry, they'll eat.
[03:12:51]  If they want to eat, the only time they eat is when they're working, right?
[03:12:54]  And so they want to find a lot of explosives because that means they're going to get a big meal.
[03:12:58]  Maybe if they're lucky right.
[03:12:59]  So there's different drives that dogs have, but basically, whether it's uh explosives narcotics, it doesn't matter what it is um, that's one of the ways you train.
[03:13:07]  In fact, I can train a dog to pick up money.
[03:13:12]  Um, I can train a dog to you know, I don't know pick up, you know, like this, whatever this ingredient here, just a little trace of it.
[03:13:19]  Yeah, I can train a dog to find, like I said, cell phones.
[03:13:22]  Um, I was in uh, I was in London Heathrow one time and I was on the Jetway in line waiting to get on the board, on board the aircraft and a canine handler, a British guy policeman, walks by with a labrador, just walking by everybody.
[03:13:37]  As soon as he walks by me, the dog stops and sits right on my eyes uh-oh, right.
[03:13:41]  And a guy looks at me, goes, how much money you got your pocket?
[03:13:44]  I pulled in.
[03:13:45]  I had like, maybe I don't know.
[03:13:46]  Oh, he smells cash.
[03:13:47]  Yeah, he smells money.
[03:13:48]  I had about 300 on me.
[03:13:49]  Right, I just pulled, I go ahead, it's all I got right here, he was okay.
[03:13:52]  Yeah, because you know what that's if you get caught camera like more than ten thousand dollars, you know where, depending on what country you go to.
[03:13:57]  That's a that's problems, right.
[03:13:59]  You can actually confiscate from me and keep it from me and then do all kinds of other shit.
[03:14:02]  So that's what he was looking for, cash.
[03:14:04]  But it can be, I can train a dog to detect COVID viruses.
[03:14:09]  You know, it's already done.
[03:14:10]  Dogs are already detecting cancer in people.
[03:14:12]  They're detecting seizures before they happen.
[03:14:15]  And you can train a dog to detect a virus.
[03:14:18]  Because why?
[03:14:19]  The virus has its own frequency.
[03:14:22]  The virus also changes your own frequency.
[03:14:25]  See, our frequency is roughly 7.8 hertz, right?
[03:14:28]  Which is the same frequency as Earth, right?
[03:14:31]  The same resonance as earth.
[03:14:32]  Earth is 7.83, we're actually 7.83.
[03:14:35]  Now when you take, if you were to take, if you were to get a virus, it's going to change everything.
[03:14:40]  Your body metabolism, your everything's going to start changing because we've got a problem in there right and the dog can actually pick that up externally.
[03:14:47]  He can pick up that frequency.
[03:14:48]  He's not hearing it, he's not seeing it.
[03:14:50]  He's picking up with his nose because you're going to start basically gassing off just through your moist, just through sweating and things like that and your body odor.
[03:14:58]  He's going to pick up a trace, some type of trace of that virus in there.
[03:15:02]  Um when, when Covid happened, I've got actually one of the subject matter experts in the world, a particular doctor, that actually, he's actually, actually, I think I can say his name.
[03:15:16]  His name is Dr. Otto Bempi, a very good guy.
[03:15:18]  And he actually, he's an owner, founder of ScentLogic.
[03:15:21]  He makes pseudo explosive training mediums, right?
[03:15:28]  And he and I were actually going to institute, set up COVID screening points like an airport.
[03:15:35]  Like you get off the aircraft, you guys are going to walk out and walk towards immigration.
[03:15:38]  I have one or two canines posted right there as you walk by.
[03:15:41]  The dogs are just sitting and I'll have a fan on the other side.
[03:15:44]  It's blowing a light breeze across.
[03:15:45]  Anybody that's got the virus, it would come across, dog would pick it up and then what he, it's called vapor trail.
[03:15:50]  And then what he would do is follow the guy that's got it and then sit on him.
[03:15:54]  I can train dogs to do that.
[03:15:55]  I've done it before.
[03:15:56]  So the dog sits and goes, that guy's it.
[03:15:58]  And then you wrap him up.
[03:16:00]  But nobody wanted to talk about that.
[03:16:03]  Nobody was interested.
[03:16:05]  And I'll tell you why they weren't interested because this whole COVID thing was a racket.
[03:16:09]  I'll tell you why.
[03:16:10]  Everybody was making a ton of money off of PCR testing.
[03:16:13]  Oh, yeah.
[03:16:14]  All the clinics were making, if a guy came up positive, you know, they got $1300 or $1,500 from the U.S. government, you know, for every positive hit.
[03:16:22]  people were incentivized to make sure people have the virus.
[03:16:26]  And they're not going to let me come in with my dog and scan people and just pluck out the people who already have it, right?
[03:16:32]  So nobody was interested in that because of that reason, right?
[03:16:36]  So this is why, again, I know this is all bullshit.
[03:16:38]  This COVID thing was a bunch of crap.
[03:16:41]  A lot of people made a lot of money and a lot of people lost a lot of money, including me.
[03:16:45]  A lot of people lost their lives.
[03:16:47]  A lot of people suffered greatly because of this scam.
[03:16:52]  By the way, COVID's real.
[03:16:54]  And also, the virus has been around for 28, 000 years.
[03:16:58]  It's not a new virus.
[03:16:59]  You know what?
[03:17:00]  30 years ago, I was actually inoculating my dogs for COVID.
[03:17:04]  It was called a seven-way shot.
[03:17:05]  I was already doing it back then.
[03:17:07]  So COVID's not new.
[03:17:08]  Well, they call this one the novella because it came from a bat bullshit.
[03:17:11]  We know where it came from, right?
[03:17:12]  But they made that crap up.
[03:17:14]  It might be new.
[03:17:15]  Well, they've admitted it now.
[03:17:16]  Yeah.
[03:17:17]  Maybe it's a new, maybe it's a new, improved version of COVID.
[03:17:19]  It's still COVID.
[03:17:20]  Yeah.
[03:17:22]  But yeah, sadly, you know, that's, you know.
[03:17:24]  That's crazy, man.
[03:17:25]  It's, uh you know, you were talking about how human beings are just, you know, we've been warring apes since the dawn of our existence.
[03:17:33]  And with technology and the way it evolves and gain of function research, trying to make viruses more powerful to kill people easier.

=== Drones and Viral Evolution (05:46) ===

[03:17:41]  Right.
[03:17:42]  Bro, it just, it just, the future seems grim.
[03:17:47]  Yeah.
[03:17:47]  When you think about just the level of technology and the level of the amount of money and brain power that goes into new ways of killing people, bro.
[03:17:59]  Yeah.
[03:18:01]  Well, I just did a, yeah, I just did another podcast the other day.
[03:18:05]  I was talking about drones.
[03:18:06]  That was a question about drones.
[03:18:07]  And here's my opinion, man.
[03:18:10]  It's a matter of time and they're going to ban drones for private use.
[03:18:14]  I'll tell you why.
[03:18:15]  Yeah.
[03:18:15]  Because you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how to weaponize a drone.
[03:18:20]  Even a small drone you can buy wherever, right?
[03:18:22]  Walmart.
[03:18:24]  It's actually very simple.
[03:18:25]  And now you got a drone.
[03:18:27]  It's like, hmm, you scratch all the serial numbers off, you know, make sure it's not traceable.
[03:18:31]  Traders back to you and now you can actually target somebody from afar right, with a drone.
[03:18:37]  And there's so many ways to kill somebody with a drone.
[03:18:39]  You know i'm not talking about mounting a gun on it.
[03:18:42]  You could, I suppose or i've actually dropped hand grenades from them before.
[03:18:46]  I've got hand grenades on them, um yeah, but if we first started messing around with drones, I was messing around with them too, almost blew myself up but, um yeah, but you, there's other ways man, there's.
[03:18:56]  There's ways like and i'm sometimes reluctant to kind of say it out loud because I don't want to give anybody any ideas, but if you got a live brain cell, You can figure this out real fast how to do this and passively kill somebody with a drone and make it on.
[03:19:11]  Nobody would know you did it.
[03:19:12]  And here's but I will say this because and hopefully the Secret Service is listening because I want to help them out if they haven't already thought about it.
[03:19:19]  Is did you see the convoy with Trump in it when they went to Saudi Arabia?
[03:19:24]  I don't think I did.
[03:19:24]  Okay.
[03:19:25]  And how recent was this?
[03:19:26]  This was like a couple weeks ago.
[03:19:27]  Yeah.
[03:19:27]  Okay.
[03:19:28]  So, anyways, he's got a really robust motorcade, right?
[03:19:31]  And they drive that shit into the plane.
[03:19:34]  Like he, he break, they bring all the cars on the.
[03:19:36]  playing with when they travel.
[03:19:37]  That's crazy.
[03:19:37]  Yeah.
[03:19:38]  And actually some are already forward state.
[03:19:39]  Some are already flowing ahead and are waiting on the tarmac, right?
[03:19:42]  So they're already rolling by the time he gets there.
[03:19:45]  But, you know, they've got, for example, I was pointing out that they had one vehicle as a Suburban or something, I think right in front of the beast.
[03:19:53]  And I had, it looked like we call it donkey dick, right?
[03:19:55]  But a big large dildo sticking out the top.
[03:19:57]  It's an antenna.
[03:19:58]  It's actually a jammer, right?
[03:20:00]  So they jam a lot of frequencies in case you're an IED out there, right?
[03:20:06]  But it made me wonder, it's like, okay, what are they doing for drones, right?
[03:20:12]  They have to think about it already, right?
[03:20:13]  Because here's my thought.
[03:20:17]  Hopefully his vehicle is armored on the top.
[03:20:20]  A lot of times, armored vehicles are not armored on the top because of weight, right?
[03:20:23]  So they don't armor the top because they figure nobody's going to shoot you from the top.
[03:20:26]  Imagine if you had a drone and you could affix some type of a shape charge on it, a very small one, just like the ones you see in Ukraine, little ones that take out the tanks, right?
[03:20:36]  And you can land that on the top of his car while he's driving it or he's sitting still.
[03:20:40]  He's in it.
[03:20:41]  He's done.
[03:20:42]  How do you prepare for something like that?
[03:20:44]  How do you disarm something?
[03:20:45]  If you see a drone coming out of the sky like that towards something, what's the most logical, reasonable way to disarm?
[03:20:53]  Avoid that happening or take it out.
[03:20:54]  That's what everybody's working on.
[03:20:55]  It's like, how do we stop them?
[03:20:56]  Right so there's EMP maybe.
[03:20:58]  Well, now check this out.
[03:20:59]  So there's a video out.
[03:21:00]  I just saw it's been out a couple times now.
[03:21:02]  So the?
[03:21:03]  Uh, the Ukrainians are using drones with fiber optic wires.
[03:21:08]  Right so they're, they're wire, they're flying by wire.
[03:21:11]  Right so there's no rf uh, radio frequency.
[03:21:14]  Right so there's nothing to jam.
[03:21:17]  Only way you can stop that drone is you got to cut the, the uh um, the line, right so, and actually show the Russian guys going out here picking up.
[03:21:25]  And it's, it's thinner than hair, it's really thin right these, these fiber optics um, like they use them in tow missile systems.
[03:21:30]  It's got a range of 3 000 uh, 3 000 feet.
[03:21:34]  What is this Steve?
[03:21:36]  I think this is what he's talking about.
[03:21:38]  Oh okay, so the, the drone is basically connected to like a line yep yep yep, there it is.
[03:21:45]  Oh, like on a, like on a reel yep, there it is.
[03:21:47]  That's right holy there, it is right there, no way.
[03:21:54]  So those big guns that you see, those guns, that they see that like, they shoot them at the drone.
[03:21:58]  That's like a, it's like a directed energy weapon to take out the drone.
[03:22:00]  That won't work on this.
[03:22:02]  Well, if they hit it it will.
[03:22:04]  If they can burn it okay, but uh, hit the motors or something like that.
[03:22:07]  But uh see yeah, fiber optic man, the only way you're going to stop that thing is you got to cut the fiber.
[03:22:12]  Wow right, so so that presents another problem.
[03:22:16]  And now you've got drones that actually don't do.
[03:22:18]  You can actually load via Ai a map and picture of the target that you want to take out and it does the rest itself.
[03:22:26]  It flies itself based on the map that's installed And it knows what the target looks like.
[03:22:31]  And it just dials in on it, right?
[03:22:33]  So AI is some scary shit.
[03:22:35]  Yeah.
[03:22:36]  That's kind of scary too.
[03:22:37]  Yeah, that thing doesn't look friendly.
[03:22:38]  So yeah, that's the challenge.
[03:22:40]  How do you stop stuff like this, you know?
[03:22:43]  Yeah.
[03:22:43]  That's the challenge.
[03:22:45]  And yeah, I think the only way you're going to be able to oh my God.
[03:22:50]  Yeah, at this point, man, drones are so ubiquitous.
[03:22:54]  You know, it would be like, you know, trying to ban guns today.
[03:22:58]  Good luck with that, you know?
[03:22:59]  Yeah.
[03:23:00]  And they're so small.
[03:23:01]  They're so tiny now.
[03:23:02]  You can buy them like the size of this thing.
[03:23:04]  Yeah.
[03:23:04]  Yeah.
[03:23:06]  Man, there's so many more things you can do with drones.
[03:23:08]  I don't want to give the bad guys ideas, but there's, man, one little tiny drone could really create havoc in America and any country for that matter.
[03:23:17]  Yeah, it's, yeah, you're right.
[03:23:21]  The world is changing.
[03:23:22]  It's getting scarier and scarier, more and more dangerous.
[03:23:25]  You know, how this is going to end.

=== Electric Universe Concepts (03:59) ===

[03:23:27]  So to answer your question about do I believe in God?
[03:23:29]  So going back to that, right?
[03:23:31]  So.
[03:23:32]  I believe in a higher power.
[03:23:33]  Here's what I believe.
[03:23:34]  We're not going to die.
[03:23:35]  We don't die.
[03:23:36]  What we do, and this is thermodynamics, right?
[03:23:39]  Energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
[03:23:40]  It can only be transferred.
[03:23:41]  So your body is simple carbon-based matter.
[03:23:43]  When your body dies, what happens?
[03:23:45]  It just turns into fertilizer, right?
[03:23:46]  Worm food, whatever, turns into shit.
[03:23:49]  What happens to the electricity inside of you?
[03:23:50]  The bioelectricity you have inside of us, inside of your brain, your mind, right?
[03:23:55]  Your body, where does it go?
[03:23:57]  Where do you think?
[03:23:58]  Yeah, it goes back into the ether, into the universe, right?
[03:24:02]  So there's a thing I call the electric universe.
[03:24:06]  The entire universe is electricity.
[03:24:07]  Everything in it is electric.
[03:24:09]  So is there God or is there a divine consciousness?
[03:24:14]  Are we living in a computer simulation, right?
[03:24:19]  Some advanced aliens, culture people somewhere around the world, they've created a computer simulation that's so realistic that even the players in it are real, right?
[03:24:35]  There's a lot of science starting to support that notion that maybe that's actually what's going on because there's some really weird things when you think about it.
[03:24:45]  I do a lot of performance coaching for people.
[03:24:48]  as well.
[03:24:49]  And here's what I tell my, I've actually coached Catholic priests.
[03:24:52]  I've coached Tony Robbins coaches.
[03:24:54]  I've coached doctors.
[03:24:55]  I coach a lot of people, man.
[03:24:58]  And so I always start off in the beginning.
[03:25:02]  It's like, I have to know a little bit about your background.
[03:25:04]  Are you religious, God-fearing?
[03:25:05]  What are your thoughts on things?
[03:25:07]  And so here's what I've discovered.
[03:25:10]  So between religion and science, they're actually, there's a lot of intersectionality.
[03:25:16]  In fact, they're almost the same thing.
[03:25:18]  So in the Bible, the Bible talks about Matrix.
[03:25:22]  What?
[03:25:23]  I thought that was some shit somebody made for a movie.
[03:25:25]  So the Bible actually talks about a matrix and refers to a matrix in that regard.
[03:25:30]  There's a lot of stuff in the Bible.
[03:25:32]  When we talk about, and I'm a Roman Catholic by birth, and that's it.
[03:25:35]  But I used to go to catechism and all that kind of stuff when I grew up because my mom made me do it.
[03:25:40]  But here's what I know.
[03:25:41]  We talk about, you know, spirit, you know, Holy Spirit, you know, all these things.
[03:25:45]  You know, we have a eulogy, you know, and the dear departed, you know, Danny, you know, he's a good man, but he's still here with us today in spirit.
[03:25:53]  Actually, he really is still here with us in spirit, right?
[03:25:55]  So.
[03:25:56]  I think we all intuitively know that, that we don't actually die.
[03:25:58]  It's almost like a forgotten knowledge.
[03:26:00]  Why do we forget it?
[03:26:01]  Because we've got cell phones, we've got computers, we've got phones now that do math problems for us and think for us, right?
[03:26:06]  And keep our memory in and our pictures and shit, right?
[03:26:09]  So I think we've gotten away from the old, the natural ways of thinking.
[03:26:14]  But if you look at it like spirit, Holy Spirit, all these things on this side, and then on the world of physics, we talk about frequencies, the law of vibration.
[03:26:23]  They're actually the same things.
[03:26:25]  They're actually the same.
[03:26:26]  Thing, because it's vibration spirits vibration um, and I believe, I believe it's one in the same.
[03:26:33]  It's just for the average religious person.
[03:26:35]  Yeah, they're like, no, there's god, God made everything.
[03:26:38]  Okay, i'm not disagreeing.
[03:26:40]  If God made everything, then he also made science.
[03:26:42]  He also made all this other stuff that we're talking about.
[03:26:44]  All right if, if he didn't make, if God doesn't exist, he didn't make all this stuff, then science can still explain it.
[03:26:51]  They can both explain there's.
[03:26:53]  There's a top, a topic called apologetics.
[03:26:56]  Apologetics is where you try to use science to prove religion.
[03:27:00]  In fact, a lot of, a lot of people will try to use apologetics to prove science right and uh, in my mind, it doesn't always hold water.
[03:27:07]  For example uh, something like that's a, that's a stretch, but okay um, but I, I believe you know, science success is based on physics.
[03:27:15]  Albert Einstein said it, Nikola Tesla said, they all said it.
[03:27:17]  It said the same thing.
[03:27:18]  It's not about philosophy um, it's not about hard work, it's always about physics, if you understand physics.
[03:27:23]  And what are physics?
[03:27:24]  Metaphysics frequency energy, vibration.

=== Challenging Subconscious Programs (07:30) ===

[03:27:27]  I do it all the time.
[03:27:29]  I literally manifest.
[03:27:31]  I've manifested everything I have in my life since the age of 15.
[03:27:34]  I'm 62.
[03:27:35]  Everything I've done, I've manifested because of how I think, not what I think.
[03:27:40]  And so I'm going to give you a quick tutorial.
[03:27:42]  Everybody out there, this is free.
[03:27:43]  No charge.
[03:27:44]  I don't have a problem with that.
[03:27:46]  I like helping people.
[03:27:47]  So when I say manifesting, everybody thinks they know how to think because they're thinking.
[03:27:54]  Actually, they're not really.
[03:27:57]  But from the ages of one to seven, we are in this hypnotic state called theta brainwaves, okay?
[03:28:04]  Four to seven hertz, okay?
[03:28:06]  And why are we in this hypnotic brain state of these brainwave states?
[03:28:10]  because we have to learn the rules of society, how to live in a family.
[03:28:13]  Oh, yeah, we need to know how to communicate.
[03:28:15]  So we got to learn a language, right?
[03:28:16]  Multiple language, blah, And so we have a lot to learn.
[03:28:20]  So we have to be a sponge.
[03:28:23]  And that goes on between the ages of one and seven.
[03:28:26]  Yes.
[03:28:27]  Right.
[03:28:27]  So after that, we go into a more critical mindset.
[03:28:31]  So around eight onward into our teenage years, late teenage years, we're in alpha brainwaves, right?
[03:28:36]  So we're more analytical, more critical thinking.
[03:28:39]  And then like right now, you and I are sitting here at a I'm going to say roughly 25 hertz in beta frequency, beta, right?
[03:28:47]  So we're listening, we're kind of studying, we're cataloging thoughts, you know, we're acting, going, okay, do I really want to remember that?
[03:28:55]  No, I throw that out.
[03:28:56]  I do want to remember that.
[03:28:57]  This long-term, short-term memory.
[03:28:59]  There's a lot of things going on inside the supercomputer up here.
[03:29:04]  But we're definitely very vulnerable at one to seven.
[03:29:07]  The problem is at age one to seven, who's changing, who's teaching you something, everything?
[03:29:13]  Your mom and dad, right?
[03:29:15]  Your teachers.
[03:29:16]  The news, your friends, everybody's telling you what to think, like you know um hey, if you, if you masturbate, you're going to go blind, right at the age of seven like okay, I won't do that right, who said, who made that up?
[03:29:26]  Right right but yeah but, if you never challenge it, you grow up thinking the same thing and you pass it on to your kids.
[03:29:32]  Right hey, stop jacking off till you're like eight right right, I don't know uh, but so what happens is it becomes um, programmed into, it becomes a program, and and that's the program you run subconsciously until you consciously challenge it go away.
[03:29:48]  Why do I believe this again?
[03:29:49]  And you start thinking about it, like, who told me that?
[03:29:52]  My mom said that.
[03:29:54]  Yeah, she's a figure of authority, but she was way off on that one, right?
[03:29:57]  So, and then you go, damn, but all these years I've been making all these decisions with all this bad data that I know is bad.
[03:30:05]  Now I know I can't get up the hill, right?
[03:30:07]  Right.
[03:30:07]  So you have to, you have to challenge paradigms.
[03:30:09]  You have to ask yourself, do I believe this?
[03:30:12]  Why?
[03:30:13]  You know, and if not, then I need to change how I think about this or just discard all that, right?
[03:30:18]  So it's part of our programming.
[03:30:21]  So.
[03:30:21]  That doesn't mean you're locked into program the Jesuits.
[03:30:24]  The Jesuits said, if you give me your children from the ages of one to seven, i'll show you the man, because they know you're programmed from one to seven they'll they know what you're going to grow up to be like, what kind of what kind of person you're going to be.
[03:30:35]  For example, there's a thing called download hypnosis.
[03:30:38]  Um, usually it's between the first two years.
[03:30:41]  So who are you closest to in the first two years?
[03:30:43]  Mom right, she's calling you, you know, trying to feed you.
[03:30:46]  You know.
[03:30:46]  You might be close to your siblings too, because they're taking care of you while mom's cooking.
[03:30:49]  Right, you know, maybe dad comes around goes, what's that?
[03:30:52]  Oh yeah, I made that.
[03:30:53]  Oh, yeah.
[03:30:53]  Right.
[03:30:54]  So I don't know.
[03:30:54]  But so you, you download behavior from the ones you're closest to in the first two years.
[03:31:01]  So if your mom's always, you know, you know, chicken shit, you know, screaming, hollering about bugs and this and that, you know, she's just, you know, really a pulsive, you know, OCD or whatever.
[03:31:11]  And maybe, you know, the other kids are a bunch of lunatics, you know, there's a pretty good chance that's what you're going to turn into.
[03:31:17]  Right.
[03:31:17]  So you're going to have this, you're going to adopt the same behaviors, but that doesn't mean you're locked into them for life.
[03:31:23]  What happens is, at some point, if you want to make a change, you have to stop and go.
[03:31:27]  You know what?
[03:31:27]  Why do I believe this?
[03:31:28]  And you have to challenge everything you ever believed right, consciously.
[03:31:32]  So you have consciousness.
[03:31:33]  And, by the way, the consciousness uh, let's call the front of the brain.
[03:31:38]  It's responsible for filtering and analyzing information.
[03:31:42]  That's it.
[03:31:42]  Filter and analyze, analyzing right, that's it.
[03:31:44]  That's all it does.
[03:31:45]  What is that filtering, analyzing?
[03:31:46]  And then it decides, does it want to keep it or not?
[03:31:49]  Uh, if you want to keep that information, you go.
[03:31:50]  Yeah, it's valid.
[03:31:51]  Then what happens is it goes to the subconsciousness, which is actually the mind.
[03:31:55]  So, where's the mind?
[03:31:56]  Huh, It's not up here.
[03:31:58]  It's not in the brain because the brain and mind are not together.
[03:31:59]  Everybody conflates them, but they're not.
[03:32:01]  So the mind is where?
[03:32:02]  It's throughout your entire nervous system all the way down to the DNA and also outside the body.
[03:32:08]  So think of the subconsciousness as like the supercomputer.
[03:32:11]  It's the repository for all information experiences you've ever had in your life.
[03:32:15]  It's all in there, right?
[03:32:15]  It's just a function of how do I get that information out because I need it.
[03:32:18]  So the consciousness does only one thing.
[03:32:20]  It just filters, analyzes information, and that's it, consciously.
[03:32:23]  It's the subconscious we've got to dig into and go, you know what?
[03:32:26]  I'm running some software and it's bullshit, you know, and I got to download or offload it.
[03:32:30]  But the problem is it's already written into the hard drive and I got to overwrite it because I can't remove it, right?
[03:32:35]  That's the problem.
[03:32:36]  Like training, for example.
[03:32:38]  That's why when you train, you should train very slow, right?
[03:32:41]  Do it properly, perfectly, beginning, and speed will naturally come.
[03:32:45]  If you try to rush at something, you build mistakes into a technique, guess what?
[03:32:49]  You can't undo the techniques.
[03:32:50]  You can overwrite them, which means more work.
[03:32:53]  So, you know, the subconscious, like I said, it's a quantum computer, 100 times X, you know?
[03:33:00]  It runs off of energy, bioelectricity.
[03:33:02]  That's what it functions off of, right?
[03:33:03]  It needs that, right?
[03:33:04]  It's like a computer.
[03:33:07]  So we're not necessarily locked into our way of thinking until we actually challenge our way of thinking.
[03:33:13]  Right, and then we ask ourselves, why am I thinking this?
[03:33:16]  I'm thinking this, this and this because this is what my teacher said, this is what the news says, this is what my mom, dad said.
[03:33:21]  They're all wrong right, and so now i've got to make I gotta do a paradigm shift.
[03:33:25]  Okay, what's the right answer?
[03:33:26]  And then that becomes the new program.
[03:33:28]  So you have to start with a conscious paradigm shift and reprogram the subconsciousness.
[03:33:33]  The subconsciousness controls 95 of our behavior every day.
[03:33:37]  95 of our behaviors control subconsciously you're driving a car, you're walking right, you're not thinking about, you're just doing it right.
[03:33:43]  95% of everything we do, we're not even thinking about it.
[03:33:45]  We're just doing it.
[03:33:46]  5% of the time, we're in conscious thought.
[03:33:49]  The reason we can do all those things like walk, drive, jump, all those things is because we programmed ourselves at one point in our life.
[03:33:55]  We learned how to crawl, grab a couch, stand up, scoot around, straddle.
[03:34:01]  I'm walking, I'm balancing.
[03:34:02]  Okay, now I'm running, now I'm running and jumping, and chewing gum.
[03:34:05]  We should just keep building on the program.
[03:34:07]  Then you can't forget the program.
[03:34:08]  You can't forget how to walk.
[03:34:10]  I doubt you can forget how to drive a car.
[03:34:12]  You can't forget how to swim.
[03:34:13]  These are programs that are instilled in us.
[03:34:17]  But the programs that we can change are the programs of thought, right?
[03:34:21]  So things that we install consciously about something, bad information, we can change that.
[03:34:27]  We just got to challenge it, ask ourselves why, and then recognize that it's bullshit and then basically overwrite it with something that's not bullshit.
[03:34:37]  So again, my third time coming back to the topic, right?
[03:34:41]  I told you.
[03:34:42]  So do you think we have a soul?
[03:34:43]  Like do you think the energy that comes out that is a part of us, our conscious beings, is some version of a soul?
[03:34:51]  Right yeah, I can leave and go back into the universe.
[03:34:53]  And then soul's energy.
[03:34:54]  Yeah, your soul is energy, it's frequency right, that's what I believe.

=== Overwriting Limiting Beliefs (06:27) ===

[03:34:58]  And uh, this is why I believe that we never die, because I believe we always exist.
[03:35:03]  And and this is why, for me personally um, I try to be the best version of myself I can be.
[03:35:09]  I try to do the right thing.
[03:35:11]  I'm not perfect, but I try to be a good person, try to do the right thing.
[03:35:13]  Why?
[03:35:14]  Because I know my dad's watching right right, and I would never, i'm never, i'm not going to do something I wouldn't do around my dad right, My dad keeps me morally aligned, so to speak.
[03:35:25]  And so I assume my dad's always watching.
[03:35:29]  And I think he, I know he is.
[03:35:31]  Nobody actually dies.
[03:35:32]  It's just that our energy is now transferred into another state, right?
[03:35:38]  Into the ether.
[03:35:38]  But because you can't destroy it.
[03:35:41]  This is why, but if you think about in the Bible, it talks about reincarnation or used to, right?
[03:35:45]  You're going to come back.
[03:35:46]  You can come back again, live again.
[03:35:48]  Well, how is that possible?
[03:35:50]  Well, frequency energy.
[03:35:51]  Spirit comes back and goes, just the body is nothing more than a vessel.
[03:35:55]  And I'm starting to really believe that we are just a universal consciousness experiencing the human condition.
[03:36:03]  What's it like to be human?
[03:36:04]  Yeah.
[03:36:04]  That's what I do believe.
[03:36:05]  I know that sounds for most people that would sound like really wacky, but here's the problem with, you know, not saying people can't understand it, but it's so fantastic.
[03:36:16]  Like that's just bullshit, right?
[03:36:18]  Because everybody's been inculturated to think a certain way today, right?
[03:36:22]  And so if you show anything that's not mainstream, but it's legit and valid, most people won't accept it.
[03:36:31]  Right.
[03:36:31]  Just because they don't have either the intellectual capacity to get their head around it or they're too lazy.
[03:36:37]  Or it's just not worth their time right now.
[03:36:39]  Right, and this is why, at my age I told you earlier i'm very passionate about longevity, because you know, i'm 62 man I, you know, I don't, i'm not ready to go.
[03:36:50]  I got a lot of one to do and uh, and I, in my mind, I already know i'm going to live to be a minimum of 100 years old.
[03:36:56]  And again people go well, good luck with that.
[03:36:57]  Well, let me tell you something else.
[03:36:59]  So it's predicted now that if you're still alive in the next five years, very good chance you'll live to be 120 to 150 years old.
[03:37:06]  How's that possible?
[03:37:06]  Because the advancement of ai and medical treatments and things like that, they think it's very possible that we can live longer because our body can live longer.
[03:37:14]  Right, the only reason we die is because our telomeres keep shortening right, right.
[03:37:19]  So so if we can link the telomeres and, by the way, that is possible because there's some animals that can actually extend them or in reproduce them right, so well, it's crazy because human beings, we have the same lifespan now that we did in antiquity.
[03:37:31]  It's crazy.
[03:37:32]  We just don't die from, you know, accidents or as much hand-to-hand combat or plague or famine anymore because you know our society is so advanced.
[03:37:39]  Yeah, but it's wild that, like Our species, exactly as it is now, we look the same as we did in antiquity, thousands of years ago.
[03:37:46]  And in a vacuum without any external influences, which we're more of back then, obviously, we have the same exact lifespan.
[03:37:54]  Yeah.
[03:37:54]  Wild.
[03:37:55]  Well, from a biological perspective, we can live longer.
[03:37:59]  We're designed to live a little bit longer.
[03:38:01]  And from a religious perspective, we had people living 600, 700 years, right?
[03:38:05]  Yeah.
[03:38:06]  In the Bible.
[03:38:07]  Would you want to live that long?
[03:38:08]  Yeah.
[03:38:08]  Would you want to live hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years?
[03:38:11]  Check it out.
[03:38:12]  So this is another thing.
[03:38:14]  Think about that.
[03:38:15]  That's like, you know, one of the fundamental pillars of being a human being and the drives that it takes to do anything in life, any endeavor you want to pursue is we have a finite lifespan and we want to achieve X, Y, Z in that lifespan and be remembered for that.
[03:38:34]  Like the very, even the fundamental archetype of a hero, right, is risking your life.
[03:38:42]  For the greater good.
[03:38:43]  Well, if you're going to live forever, there's no risks, right?
[03:38:46]  There's no more heroes, all right?
[03:38:48]  Well, look at this.
[03:38:49]  So just in the last couple years since Ai has come out right, it's like going like really fast.
[03:38:55]  Man, Ai now knows it's aware of itself.
[03:38:58]  Um, so think about it like this, it's also predicted that around the age, around the years of 2050 2060, that you will be able to upload your mind into a hard drive.
[03:39:11]  Yeah okay, now think about that for a minute.
[03:39:13]  All right, your mind into a hard drive now Listen, we're gonna back it up.
[03:39:19]  We're gonna put a couple hard drives in different places just in case, right?
[03:39:22]  To save in case we lose one.
[03:39:23]  Put one on the moon.
[03:39:25]  But so if you could, so now look at robots.
[03:39:27]  Look at how advanced robots are.
[03:39:29]  Yeah.
[03:39:30]  Man, those things are really like human-like fast jump.
[03:39:33]  They do fast reflexes.
[03:39:35]  And now they're, you know, they're making now robots are killing people.
[03:39:38]  Well, and they're making biological, bioidentical skin cells, right?
[03:39:42]  So I believe the day of the android is near.
[03:39:46]  It's coming.
[03:39:46]  The day when we have androids that you can't tell from a real human is coming.
[03:39:51]  I believe so.
[03:39:52]  And so think about it like this.
[03:39:55]  Sex bots.
[03:39:56]  Well, check it out.
[03:39:57]  So let's just say, okay, you know what, I've uploaded my mind in a hard drive and my physical body's done.
[03:40:05]  It wants to tap out.
[03:40:06]  I upload my, I take my hard drive and install it into a computer, a robot.
[03:40:11]  Here, push a little closer.
[03:40:12]  Oh, sorry, sorry.
[03:40:13]  And I live in a computer.
[03:40:15]  I mean, a robot.
[03:40:15]  Yeah.
[03:40:16]  Think about that.
[03:40:16]  That robot.
[03:40:18]  So even if the robot eventually breaks down, you just take it out and put another robot, new advanced mod bottle.
[03:40:23]  But here's the thing, because everything's energy.
[03:40:25]  Even your mind is energy, right?
[03:40:27]  It requires electricity.
[03:40:28]  So do you experience pain if you touch a hot stove?
[03:40:33]  No, your body don't, but your brain does.
[03:40:34]  Your brain feels the pain.
[03:40:36]  Your brain feels all the emotions.
[03:40:37]  Your body doesn't feel anything, right?
[03:40:39]  Because you have receptors throughout your body.
[03:40:42]  So you touch a hot stove, what happens is an afferent signal goes up to your brain, goes, hey, this thing I'm touching has a frequency of whatever through the charts.
[03:40:51]  And your brain goes, Yeah, that frequency is really high.
[03:40:54]  We're going to get third degree burn.
[03:40:55]  It sends an e-fern signal down, goes withdraw the hand.
[03:40:59]  Right?
[03:40:59]  So everything is run by the executive functions up here by the mind.
[03:41:03]  So we don't really feel pain or pleasure in our body.
[03:41:07]  We feel it only in our mind.
[03:41:09]  So I think it would be reasonable to say, okay, if I could put a hard drive with my mind into a robot, that that robot would have all the feelings my human body had.
[03:41:18]  Right.
[03:41:19]  Pain, pleasure, sex, everything would be the same because it's the mind, the brain, the spirit and all that.

=== Brain Signals and Hot Stoves (16:08) ===

[03:41:25]  So to answer your question, would I want to live forever?
[03:41:29]  Yeah, because all that matters is as long as my mind's functioning, the body's going to, it's just a vehicle to carry this thing around, but this is what's functioning.
[03:41:38]  And now think about that for a minute.
[03:41:40]  You could just keep experiencing life and things that come with it, and family members and kids.
[03:41:46]  And it's like, man, you can.
[03:41:48]  Yeah, it's a weird question, right?
[03:41:49]  Like, would you want to live forever?
[03:41:51]  Well, I can tell you for a fact, I don't want to die right now.
[03:41:54]  Yeah.
[03:41:56]  the foreseeable future.
[03:41:57]  I want to see my kids grow up.
[03:41:58]  You know, ask me when I'm 100.
[03:42:00]  I mean, I don't want to be like a decrepit old, you know, immobile, suffering old man for eternity.
[03:42:07]  If I could be the same version of myself I am right now, living the life I am right now, yeah, hell yeah, I'd want to do this forever.
[03:42:13]  Well, I tell you what, what happens is when you get my age and you've seen things I've done and seen, you don't really appreciate life until it's almost over, right?
[03:42:26]  Everybody takes living for granted.
[03:42:28]  like they're going to be here tomorrow next year, right?
[03:42:31]  I don't know how many people I know, friends and family that thought the same thing and were gone just like that, all right?
[03:42:40]  It can happen at any moment.
[03:42:42]  So when you're facing a scenario where you might lose your life right now, it's like it's really going to be close.
[03:42:52]  You start looking at life a little bit differently.
[03:42:53]  You start appreciating, oh, shit, man.
[03:42:57]  There was a study that was done on guys around my age, and the question was, At your age, what is your biggest regret?
[03:43:06]  And 76% of the respondents said they regretted having not lived a life fulfilled.
[03:43:12]  In other words, they didn't go do all the things they wanted to do.
[03:43:15]  Like, you know, yeah, I want to go skydiving one time, but I didn't get around to it.
[03:43:18]  I want to go do scuba diving.
[03:43:19]  I didn't get around to it.
[03:43:20]  I want to have a three-way, but my wife wouldn't play.
[03:43:22]  You know, there's all these things, right?
[03:43:24]  You go, oh, you know, what if shit, right?
[03:43:25]  And so, and then they get up here and they're like, ah, man, you know, they have some regrets.
[03:43:31]  They did the same study to people that were like on their deathbed.
[03:43:35]  last, you know, last lay of life.
[03:43:38]  And 99% response said the same thing.
[03:43:40]  They regret not having a life fulfilled.
[03:43:44]  What a tragedy.
[03:43:45]  You know, what a tragedy that, you know, people have to die and feel like they just didn't live the life that they wanted and it didn't feel fulfilled.
[03:43:52]  Yeah, we all, there's good, there's highs and lows.
[03:43:54]  We, you know, we all have a, I think most people go out and go, yeah, I had a pretty good life.
[03:43:58]  It's not ideal.
[03:43:59]  I would have liked doing this, but I didn't want to do that.
[03:44:01]  Well, why not?
[03:44:01]  Why don't you do the things you want to do?
[03:44:03]  Right.
[03:44:03]  You know, why didn't you do them?
[03:44:04]  Right.
[03:44:05]  And so then all the, you know, all the excuses, I call them dream killers come out.
[03:44:09]  Well, you know, I was married.
[03:44:10]  You know, I had kids.
[03:44:11]  I had kids in college.
[03:44:12]  I had a boss.
[03:44:12]  I had to work.
[03:44:13]  I had blah, blah.
[03:44:13]  You know, there's all these excuses, right.
[03:44:15]  And, and this is why most people will live a life.
[03:44:19]  Unfulfilled unfortunately, and uh, and it's really a function of if you want to live a life fulfilled, first of all be grateful for what you have right now, every day.
[03:44:30]  Be grateful for what you have, and even what you don't have yeah, so what?
[03:44:34]  If you're living on the street?
[03:44:35]  Be grateful you're living on the street right now.
[03:44:37]  At least you're still living and you have an opportunity to rise up right yep um, I also tell, especially my wife.
[03:44:45]  Sometimes she gets a little aggravated about something and I just tell I said, hey babe, so listen imagine, right now there's somebody in a hospital bed somewhere, probably many around this world that would gladly trade places with you.
[03:44:58]  They're dying.
[03:44:59]  They would gladly be in your place and have your little problem right now.
[03:45:02]  Fuck yeah.
[03:45:03]  So remember what you got.
[03:45:05]  Be grateful for what you have.
[03:45:06]  It's one of the most important.
[03:45:08]  Every day I wake up, to myself, I meditate and I'm grateful.
[03:45:14]  And I say it.
[03:45:15]  I'm grateful for my life, my health, my wealth, my family, all my things.
[03:45:19]  I'm grateful for everything in the here and now, even everything I don't have.
[03:45:24]  And I keep a pot because I am grateful for that because it could be much worse.
[03:45:27]  You know, I mean, it could be much worse.
[03:45:29]  I mean, I'm a guy that I don't answer to anybody, man.
[03:45:31]  I'm for 25 years now.
[03:45:33]  I've been living on my own, work for myself.
[03:45:35]  I've got three homes, three countries, three families.
[03:45:38]  I do what I want.
[03:45:39]  It's like I got a lot of freedom.
[03:45:40]  I'm not completely free where none of us are.
[03:45:42]  IRS still got a hand on me.
[03:45:43]  U.S. government's got a hand.
[03:45:45]  There's people got hands on me, right?
[03:45:47]  But I do have some latitude to move.
[03:45:50]  But I try to be grateful for what I have.
[03:45:53]  And that's positive.
[03:45:55]  That's positive energy.
[03:45:56]  And when you're grateful and you're positive, actually, you'll start to attract more positive energy.
[03:46:00]  You've probably heard of the law of attraction before.
[03:46:02]  Everybody says it, but a lot of people don't know what that means.
[03:46:05]  Even Albert Einstein said, everything that you want already exists.
[03:46:09]  See, time is really relative.
[03:46:10]  In fact, time is a man-made construct.
[03:46:12]  We made that, right?
[03:46:14]  So just think if there was no time, right?
[03:46:18]  And every day was just another day.
[03:46:21]  I think we'd be a lot happier, but because we created this timeline, like, shit, I'm 62.
[03:46:26]  They say I got to like 76.
[03:46:28]  I got a lot of shit to get done, you know?
[03:46:30]  Hope I'm healthy before then.
[03:46:31]  So we put a lot of pressure on ourselves with a stupid clock, right?
[03:46:34]  In fact, who was it?
[03:46:35]  Somebody said, Mark Twain, I think, said, you know, they just manufactured time because they want to sell clocks.
[03:46:42]  Somebody did, right?
[03:46:42]  So I would sell some clocks, right?
[03:46:45]  But I think longevity is something that I'm very interested in.
[03:46:53]  I think we can live a lot longer.
[03:46:55]  I would like to keep going on.
[03:46:57]  I would like to program myself to live longer.
[03:46:59]  And I do it every day just with my meditation.
[03:47:01]  I tell myself I'm healthy.
[03:47:03]  I'm happy.
[03:47:04]  I see myself lifting weights, running.
[03:47:06]  I see myself.
[03:47:08]  Outperforming any guy my age, and most guys half my age, no doubt about it, right?
[03:47:12]  I see that.
[03:47:13]  Um, I feel like that, I think like that, and you know, of course, I supplement.
[03:47:19]  You know, I'm not gonna say I don't supplement and probably go, Well, he's taking steroids.
[03:47:22]  I'm taking steroids, yes, I'm taking TRT, and so and I have no problem with that, you know, admitting that because that's that's another stupid stigma.
[03:47:29]  Most people are now, that's become very popular, yeah, but it's a stupid stigma, right?
[03:47:33]  Because oh, he's you know, like you think it is still, I think so.
[03:47:36]  I think it's, yeah, no, I know, you're I definitely know what you mean by that.
[03:47:39]  I hear it.
[03:47:40]  Is everything okay?
[03:47:41]  Oh, okay.
[03:47:42]  But the problem is, so many young people are getting into it, like in their early 20s.
[03:47:46]  Yeah.
[03:47:46]  You know, before they're like brainwashed.
[03:47:48]  That's not a good idea.
[03:47:49]  You know, a lot of people just don't know what they're fucking doing.
[03:47:51]  Like, I know a lot of kids in the gym that just fucking buy that shit from some guy behind the gym, never get their blood work done, don't monitor shit, don't know what's going on.
[03:47:58]  So they're just like, fuck it.
[03:48:00]  But you know, what fucking teach their own, you know?
[03:48:02]  I mean, a lot of guys have been super successful doing that.
[03:48:04]  But, you know, I think it's really important to like keep track of the shit that's good, keep track of your blood work and make sure you know what the fuck's going on inside your body.
[03:48:11]  I think, you know, Look, I'm not opposed to modern medicine, allopathic medicine, although I'm a naturopath.
[03:48:19]  There's a place for everything.
[03:48:22]  Now, allopathic medicine, they call alternative medicine, complementary medicine.
[03:48:27]  Actually, no.
[03:48:28]  Actually, natural medicine, naturopathy was actually conventional medicine, right?
[03:48:38]  That's actually the real medicine.
[03:48:39]  Allopathic is just, I don't even want to call it augmentation because it's just a mixture of shit they put together, but you still use it.
[03:48:47]  a lot of natural stuff to make it.
[03:48:49]  But I don't see anything wrong with people, you know, taking supplements.
[03:48:54]  Of course, you should take vitamins and all those types of things.
[03:48:57]  If you're, I think for sure, if your guy is more than 45, you should consider testosterone replacement therapy, you know, do it under, you know, supervision of us, I will say a sports medicine doctor or an open-minded doctor because not all are.
[03:49:09]  It's crazy how stigma, you're right.
[03:49:11]  Definitely it is stigmatized within primary healthcare physicians like now.
[03:49:15]  Right.
[03:49:15]  Any PCP you go to, they're going to be like, what?
[03:49:17]  Yeah.
[03:49:18]  No, not unless your testosterone is in like the 200s.
[03:49:21]  Yeah.
[03:49:21]  You know, if you have, if you have less testosterone than a teenage girl, maybe we'll give it to you.
[03:49:25]  Yeah.
[03:49:25]  But like in Europe, they prescribe it for like ADD and stuff.
[03:49:28]  Yeah.
[03:49:29]  No, it's, it's amazing, man.
[03:49:30]  I've been, I've actually supplemented for a while, about 13 years, I think.
[03:49:34]  Yeah.
[03:49:34]  But I do it.
[03:49:35]  A lot of jujitsu guys do it.
[03:49:36]  Yeah.
[03:49:36]  It, look, it, it's already been proven, man.
[03:49:39]  It does something.
[03:49:39]  It helps your muscles grow back.
[03:49:41]  It repairs damage cognitively, man.
[03:49:44]  Guys on TRT and testosterone don't have heart attacks.
[03:49:47]  Although there's lawyers out there.
[03:49:48]  They're trying to sue these guys.
[03:49:49]  It's bullshit.
[03:49:50]  Um, studies have proven that guys are on trt, are not getting heart attacks.
[03:49:54]  If you're working out, you're training, you're on trt.
[03:49:56]  Yeah right, trt.
[03:49:57]  A big difference between like blasting, you know yeah, 50 different fucking things like deca, and you know a thousand fucking milligrams of testosterone a week.
[03:50:05]  Like yeah, it can get dicey, you know, up in those realms.
[03:50:08]  And then again like even with like athletes, you know guys who are playing in the Nfl, who are playing games and practicing a game once a week and like four practices a week running full speed into other guys destroying their bodies.
[03:50:22]  They need these kinds of things to perform.
[03:50:26]  Well, I think all sports, they should just be full bore, allowed to do everything as long as it's monitored.
[03:50:32]  Yeah.
[03:50:32]  Well, the thing was with steroids, testosterone, there is this stigma still about it.
[03:50:40]  I see it all the time.
[03:50:41]  You'll see some.
[03:50:42]  Dude, I got videos of a dude that's 99 years old.
[03:50:45]  Another one is 90 years old, 89 years old, 80 years old, 70 years old.
[03:50:49]  These dudes are jacked, man.
[03:50:52]  I mean, shit.
[03:50:52]  Really?
[03:50:52]  Wait a minute.
[03:50:53]  That old?
[03:50:53]  Whoom.
[03:50:54]  Yeah, dude.
[03:50:55]  And.
[03:50:56]  And I read the comments and they're like, yeah, he's taking steroids.
[03:50:59]  Like, you know what?
[03:51:00]  Shut up, you freaking pussy, man.
[03:51:02]  Because you know what?
[03:51:04]  When I'm 99 years old, if I can look like this at 99 years old, and I'm still getting more trim than you are, and I can still do my job or whatever it is I want to do, so what?
[03:51:15]  I'll be augmented.
[03:51:16]  Because all you're doing when you're taking testosterone replacement there, you're just putting back in your body what it's no longer manufacturing on its own anymore, right?
[03:51:23]  That's all you're doing.
[03:51:24]  But you still have to do the work.
[03:51:26]  You still got to lift the weights.
[03:51:27]  I mean, it's going to be it's going to get to the point, I would imagine, in the next few decades, few hundred years, that it's going to be probably mandatory for people.
[03:51:37]  Just with the way testosterone and sperm counts have been plummeting since the 50s with industrialization and all this monocrop agriculture and glyphosate being sprayed everywhere.
[03:51:48]  Plastic is everywhere.
[03:51:49]  You can't escape plastic.
[03:51:50]  Yeah.
[03:51:51]  So, imagine what that's going to look like in a couple hundred years.
[03:51:53]  Testosterons are going to be non existent from the jump.
[03:51:56]  Yeah, you're right.
[03:51:57]  In the last.
[03:51:59]  In the last 20 years, the average guy's testosterone level has dropped to 50%, half of what his grandfather's was.
[03:52:06]  Right?
[03:52:06]  Think about that.
[03:52:07]  So that's interesting.
[03:52:08]  What's happening here?
[03:52:09]  Here's another observation.
[03:52:14]  There's a lot of people, there's a lot of homosexuals out here.
[03:52:17]  More than I've ever, it's like, what?
[03:52:18]  Where are they coming?
[03:52:19]  They just crawl out of the woodwork, right?
[03:52:20]  So is it because they choose to be homosexual or is there another, maybe a biological genetic aspect to this thing?
[03:52:28]  And here's my opinion.
[03:52:30]  I believe A lot of this craziness we see today, you know, these psychosis, you know, all this weird stuff, man, is, you know, people, you know, destroying their bodies, changing their sex and all this stuff, right?
[03:52:43]  I think there's a component that has in it that has something to do with our food and plastics and various types of xenoestrogens that are out there.
[03:52:52]  I believe there's something chemically altering us because, what is it, the frog study they did?
[03:52:57]  They got a oh, yeah.
[03:52:58]  Right?
[03:52:59]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[03:53:00]  Right?
[03:53:00]  So that's a great example.
[03:53:01]  Gay frogs.
[03:53:01]  Yeah, the gay frogs, right?
[03:53:03]  And so I do honestly believe because, for example, in this water bottle right here, right?
[03:53:08]  So it's plastic, but guess what this plastic is leaching off into this water?
[03:53:14]  Xenoestrogens, right?
[03:53:16]  It's an estrogen.
[03:53:17]  Yeah, exactly, but an estrogen.
[03:53:19]  And so when you and I drink this bottle with xenoestrogens in it, it has the same effect as a regular human estrogen, right?
[03:53:29]  The lock and key thing.
[03:53:30]  And so suddenly, you know, we have this explosion of prostate cancer and breast cancer, particularly in the West.
[03:53:38]  But we've also put everything into plastics right, we eat plastic foods plates, plastic wrappers, convenience everything's plastic plastic plastic, oh yeah.
[03:53:47]  And then we get xenoestrogens from car fumes, car exhaust comes off of that.
[03:53:51]  There's a lot of things out here polluting us with xenoestrogens.
[03:53:54]  Um, I believe, I believe somewhere in in this, in this madness.
[03:54:02]  You can blame estrogen, extra estrogen, for all the craziness, even the psychology psychosis.
[03:54:07]  We're starting to see people acting really weird.
[03:54:09]  I believe there's a component that has related to our food involved in all this.
[03:54:14]  Because if you, if you, if you look at like this, all right, in the turn of the industrial revolution right, it was after the turn of the industrial revolution that we were able to process food, we were able to do all this stuff.
[03:54:26]  Um, that's all of a sudden, when we started seeing, in fact, prior to that, maybe less than five percent of the American population would get cancer, and if they got cancer, it usually wasn't something you know that would kill them.
[03:54:38]  Maybe it's a, you know, a wool, a mole that just cut it off or some right, but We didn't have the levels of cancer that we have today.
[03:54:45]  Today, actually, one in every two people will get cancer.
[03:54:49]  So 20 years ago when I got my PhD, it was one in four.
[03:54:52]  So before that, it was 5% and it just keeps going up and up and up.
[03:54:56]  And now we're at one and two.
[03:54:58]  Heart disease was non-existent before the Industrial Revolution.
[03:55:02]  It's the number one killer in America, right?
[03:55:04]  And then type two diabetes.
[03:55:06]  Okay, I was watching TV shows more bullshit, right?
[03:55:09]  It was a commercial for drugs and it goes, yes, because type two diabetes is a hereditary.
[03:55:15]  No, it's not.
[03:55:16]  Who said that?
[03:55:17]  The pharmaceutical company is not hereditary.
[03:55:19]  I've had bad guys come to me.
[03:55:21]  I got type two diabetes.
[03:55:22]  I'll be on this drug for the rest of my life.
[03:55:23]  I go, why?
[03:55:24]  Because I got type two diabetes.
[03:55:25]  I go, you know.
[03:55:27]  You can cure yourself type 2 diabetes.
[03:55:29]  Oh yeah, you can get off that real fast.
[03:55:31]  How about this?
[03:55:31]  For the next three weeks, you don't eat any carbohydrates, any sugar, right?
[03:55:34]  Just drink water and meat and fat right, boom done, right.
[03:55:38]  So everybody's been brainwashing and thinking certain things their lives, right?
[03:55:41]  Yeah, so we've got what I call the four modern nutritional diseases.
[03:55:45]  That all really has their um, their impetus from the industrial revolution, especially as we move along here.
[03:55:51]  So we've got um well, I mentioned type 2 diabetes, which is related to food um, and particularly sugar sugar's, sugar's evil.
[03:55:59]  Um, we've got uh um, Cancer, obviously.
[03:56:02]  Again, never was around before.
[03:56:04]  Now it's all over the place.
[03:56:05]  Then we've got heart disease.
[03:56:07]  We've got the other one we have is ALS, Alzheimer's, these different cognitive impairments, right?
[03:56:14]  And so that's all new shit, right?
[03:56:16]  And by the way, now they're actually some people are quietly coming out and going, yeah, it's Alzheimer's, actually type 3 diabetes, right?
[03:56:23]  Type 3 diabetes.
[03:56:24]  It's all related to sugar because actually your brain produces a little bit of insulin.
[03:56:28]  It requires the turn.
[03:56:30]  Actually, it just needs glycogen.
[03:56:31]  It doesn't need glucose or sugar, right?
[03:56:34]  What happens is just like anything else, we eat too many carbohydrates, we secrete too much insulin, then we douse all our cells with insulin, cells become resistant to it, and then nothing happens, right?
[03:56:46]  We just get sick.
[03:56:47]  So ALS, Alzheimer's, these are all tied to gut function.
[03:56:51]  If you look at the brain and the intestines, they look very similar.
[03:56:54]  In fact, those are the two parts of the organs that develop first in vitro, right?
[03:56:58]  Think about it.
[03:56:59]  They're the two that they separate, right?
[03:57:02]  And, by the way, your gut lining produces at least half.
[03:57:06]  If not more of your dopamine and serotonin levels for your feel-good hormones right, that's interesting.
[03:57:11]  So if you're eating crappy food and you got leaky gut syndrome and all those other irritated bowel syndrome cronies, all this other right, do you think that maybe you're not getting the feel-good hormones you need and maybe that's why you're walking around with an attitude every day?
[03:57:23]  You're not thinking clearly?
[03:57:24]  You know right, that's.
[03:57:25]  There's a, there's a nexus between that.
[03:57:27]  And here's the other thing, um, only three percent of the diseases that human diseases are actually human diseases.
[03:57:33]  They're just.

=== Gut Health and Dopamine Levels (06:42) ===

[03:57:34]  Everything else is a disorder is a disorder.
[03:57:37]  Even cancer is a disorder.
[03:57:38]  It's not a disease.
[03:57:39]  You don't catch it And it's not hereditary.
[03:57:42]  It's not congenital.
[03:57:43]  You don't pass it on.
[03:57:44]  There's no such thing as a cancer gene.
[03:57:46]  But they keep telling you this shit.
[03:57:47]  This is why I'm kind of glad RFK's kind of taking front on the point of this thing.
[03:57:51]  I don't know if he's going to help us or save us much, but at least he gets it.
[03:57:55]  And he's like, this is all bullshit.
[03:57:58]  And, you know, unfortunately, I've been preaching this stuff for a long time in my coaching programs because I know you can't develop this until you fix this, all of this, right?
[03:58:08]  You know, nutritionally, bioelectricity, everything that relates to your body's got to get fixed.
[03:58:13]  In order for your mind to function.
[03:58:15]  So if you want to be successful, you got to change how you think.
[03:58:17]  From what you think, all this we've been, we've been told that sugars are good.
[03:58:22]  Not too much fat.
[03:58:24]  Stay away from red meat.
[03:58:25]  No salt, all that's lies.
[03:58:26]  Salt is good.
[03:58:27]  Good for you, it's not going to kill you.
[03:58:29]  Cholesterol, cholesterol is bad.
[03:58:30]  No, cholesterol is good because cholesterol is bad.
[03:58:32]  There would be no Eskimos.
[03:58:34]  That's already been proven right.
[03:58:35]  So everything they told you is bad, just flip it over go, you know.
[03:58:38]  If it's good, i'll eat that.
[03:58:39]  Right yeah yep, yeah.
[03:58:40]  There's a lot of nuance to it.
[03:58:41]  Man, everybody's different.
[03:58:42]  Everybody thrives on different diets.
[03:58:44]  Just depends on your lifestyle.
[03:58:45]  And uh, you know, as long as you're not eating processed garbage, that's the biggest step for you.
[03:58:51]  That's the biggest first step.
[03:58:52]  Stop eating all the processed garbage, cooked food, eat raw foods, and that'll get you off to the races.
[03:58:59]  But, like, yeah, I have a buddy who was just on here a couple weeks ago who's been a power lifter his whole life, and he's now on this new thing called the sugar diet.
[03:59:08]  Yeah, where he eats sugar, he eats fruit and candy, and then a little bit of protein.
[03:59:13]  And it's working great for him.
[03:59:15]  He's getting super lean, and he's.
[03:59:21]  I think he's in his mid 50s and he's in fucking phenomenal shape.
[03:59:26]  Lifts tons of, you know, lifts weight every day.
[03:59:28]  His whole life, he's been a huge powerlifting guy and he's tried every single diet that is known to man.
[03:59:35]  And he thinks this is like the new next best thing.
[03:59:38]  I haven't looked into it too deeply, so I don't know exactly, you know, the science behind how it works.
[03:59:42]  But I'll be interested because here's what.
[03:59:45]  His name's Mark Bell.
[03:59:45]  Here's what science does know.
[03:59:48]  In order for cancer to thrive and survive, it needs two things.
[03:59:52]  It needs an anaerobic environment, no oxygen.
[03:59:55]  So if you're sedentary, you're not working out you, you're setting them up yeah, cancer.
[03:59:59]  And two, it needs sugar.
[04:00:00]  Yeah, sugar is what it feeds off, it's its fuel source.
[04:00:03]  And carbohydrates sugar right, because carbohydrates breaks into sugar right, breaks down into glycogen, right.
[04:00:09]  So that's what it thrives off.
[04:00:10]  We aren't, we're actually not designed to eat carbohydrates.
[04:00:13]  Now that might sound crazy, but I follow.
[04:00:16]  I follow a bunch of doctors out there that are really big in the carnivore diet.
[04:00:19]  I'm actually carnivore guy.
[04:00:20]  I do yeah, big time.
[04:00:22]  I've been doing it for a couple years.
[04:00:23]  Never felt better in my life.
[04:00:24]  You don't have any carbs Now, and then I do a little bit.
[04:00:27]  I cheat.
[04:00:28]  But my body is now so much in ketosis.
[04:00:31]  I'm sorry.
[04:00:32]  I forgot where I'm at.
[04:00:33]  My body's in such ketosis now.
[04:00:36]  I could eat junk food all day, whole birthday cake, and tomorrow I'm still back into ketosis, still burning fat.
[04:00:40]  Yeah, that's great.
[04:00:41]  You got to have that flexibility.
[04:00:42]  You got to be able to build that flexibility.
[04:00:43]  But I don't do it.
[04:00:44]  I don't do too much of that because I understand how bad sugar really is.
[04:00:47]  It's super poisonous.
[04:00:48]  It does a lot of things.
[04:00:49]  It creates what's called advanced glycation end products.
[04:00:51]  It's almost like glazing on your nerve endings.
[04:00:53]  And this is why people have diabetes.
[04:00:55]  their fingers and shit start rotting, falling off, right?
[04:00:57]  They start because their nerve endings are dying, right?
[04:00:59]  So sugar does a lot of bad stuff.
[04:01:01]  It causes you to retain water.
[04:01:03]  As soon as I started the carnivore diet a couple years ago, I weighed 210.
[04:01:09]  And within six weeks, I lost 32 pounds.
[04:01:13]  Dude, I was shredded.
[04:01:15]  And it was all water.
[04:01:16]  Most of it was water and fat.
[04:01:18]  And I'm still pretty vascular because my whole body, my legs are just super vascular.
[04:01:23]  And I feel a thousand times better, man.
[04:01:25]  Cognitively, I think better.
[04:01:27]  My reflexes are better.
[04:01:28]  That's amazing.
[04:01:29]  Everything's just better man, than than any carbohydrates.
[04:01:33]  When I was in Afghanistan, I was like i'd go to one camp, for example, on a regular basis, and I stayed for two or three months and I had to eat their food right, because that's what you do.
[04:01:42]  It's like you know, you're my soldiers, i'm your commander, and I got to eat what you eat right.
[04:01:46]  So every day it was orange chicken uh, it was orange chicken um, cucumber slices carrots, maybe a mango and water.
[04:01:56]  That was a diet right, pretty damn good diet.
[04:01:58]  I came back shredded man and i'd be back in the states within two weeks And all of a sudden I got fat, lazy.
[04:02:05]  I was always lethargic.
[04:02:07]  Yeah.
[04:02:08]  Brain fog, you know?
[04:02:09]  It just messed me up.
[04:02:10]  Yeah, man.
[04:02:10]  I feel the same way when I travel.
[04:02:11]  Yeah.
[04:02:12]  When I travel, whenever I go to, you know, like Central America, Costa Rica for a week or two, it's day and night.
[04:02:19]  And you notice it.
[04:02:19]  I notice it almost instantly.
[04:02:20]  Yeah.
[04:02:21]  You know, even eating the garbage food there, like eating their pizza and their burgers, you don't feel like complete trash like you do when you eat shit here.
[04:02:28]  Because we put ingredients in our food that we get away with.
[04:02:31]  They don't allow it, right?
[04:02:32]  Like we're still doing, you know, the fluoride and all that crap, rat poison.
[04:02:36]  But yeah, so.
[04:02:37]  At the end of the day, man, I think it's important that everybody takes care of their bodies.
[04:02:43]  There's no excuse not to, you know?
[04:02:44]  Yeah, totally, man.
[04:02:46]  Fitness should be as high a priority as eating dinner, drinking water, taking a shit.
[04:02:51]  I agree.
[04:02:51]  It's got to be up there, right?
[04:02:52]  You need to fit in there somewhere.
[04:02:53]  Don't make excuses.
[04:02:55]  I work at work all day.
[04:02:56]  No, that's not work.
[04:02:57]  I actually did construction work during COVID.
[04:02:59]  A friend of mine, man, he had a mega project, man, and he couldn't find anybody to work for him.
[04:03:04]  Now, I got stuck in the States because I couldn't travel back because of the COVID restrictions.
[04:03:07]  So I'm trapped here, right, with my wife, which is not a bad thing, I guess, in our home here.
[04:03:13]  So the reason he couldn't find anybody to do any work is because Uncle Sam was giving out all these stimulus checks and all this crap.
[04:03:20]  These guys were making more money sitting on their ass.
[04:03:22]  playing video games and actually going out and working, right?
[04:03:25]  So there's no incentive.
[04:03:26]  But this project had a deadline on it and it was a big project.
[04:03:30]  And he's like, you want to do some work?
[04:03:34]  Construction?
[04:03:34]  And I, well, I got nothing else to do.
[04:03:36]  I'm stuck in Panama City Beach for I don't know how long, you know?
[04:03:39]  And he goes, I'll pay you, blah, blah, blah.
[04:03:40]  You know, it'd be kind of fun, you know?
[04:03:42]  I said, all right, why not?
[04:03:43]  So I help him out.
[04:03:44]  Man, so I work construction.
[04:03:45]  I'll tell you right now, hats off to construction workers, man.
[04:03:48]  That's some ball buses.
[04:03:49]  Oh, yeah.
[04:03:51]  Yeah.
[04:03:52]  But it was on Panama City Beach.
[04:03:53]  We're actually building a deck.
[04:03:54]  I forgot how many square feet it was.
[04:03:56]  It was big, like 65,000 square foot deck, plant wood and concrete, massive.
[04:04:01]  But it was on the beach and we're exposed to sunlight all day, the reflective light from the beach.
[04:04:07]  Of course, I had to look at all the girls with the long bikinis, but it sucked.
[04:04:12]  But I did that for like six months.
[04:04:13]  I finally had to quit, man, because I went to kidney failure.
[04:04:15]  I was so dehydrated.

=== Construction Work in Panama (02:52) ===

[04:04:17]  Oh, shit.
[04:04:17]  Yeah, man, I was like, whoa, shit.
[04:04:19]  Yeah, it was hard work, man.
[04:04:21]  So hats off on that.
[04:04:23]  But I still, even though I was doing construction work in, It's work at night.
[04:04:27]  I go home, eat my wife.
[04:04:28]  I eat my wife.
[04:04:30]  That too.
[04:04:30]  My wife would make dinner and I would eat dinner and eat her later.
[04:04:33]  But then I would go to the gym every night.
[04:04:35]  I still worked out, right?
[04:04:36]  It was still part of the day.
[04:04:37]  It was part of your life, man.
[04:04:39]  But most people can't get their head around that.
[04:04:42]  There's a difference between just working manually and actually going in and challenging all your body parts and working them to failure, right?
[04:04:50]  That's how you get growth.
[04:04:52]  And it's already known that, you know, exercise is the best medicine, especially legs.
[04:04:57]  Most people end up in like alternative living, you know.
[04:05:00]  Homes because why they don't have any legs straight right, they can't pick themselves up off the toilet, they can't get off the couch right, so they're weak and so they end up in one of these uh these nursing homes.
[04:05:10]  So take care of your legs, take care of your body and, it's of course, take care of your mind.
[04:05:13]  Um yeah man well, listen.
[04:05:16]  First of all, Dale Comstock for president.
[04:05:19]  Second of all, we just did four fucking hours.
[04:05:24]  That was amazing, bro.
[04:05:26]  I really appreciate you coming and telling all these stories and talking to me.
[04:05:29]  This was, this has been a fantastic podcast.
[04:05:31]  Tell people that are listening where they can find you on the internet, social media, get a hold of you, get your books, all that stuff.
[04:05:36]  Yeah.
[04:05:36]  So, yeah, first of all, thank you for having me on here.
[04:05:38]  I really appreciate it, man.
[04:05:40]  I love doing this.
[04:05:40]  I don't have to, but I like doing it, you know?
[04:05:43]  I live a good life.
[04:05:44]  But you can find me on Instagram, official American badass, Dale Comstock, official American badass.
[04:05:50]  I'm on LinkedIn, Dale Comstock, normal badass.
[04:05:54]  No, you can just about find me anywhere.
[04:05:57]  I think my phone number is out there, too.
[04:05:58]  I don't, I'm not that private.
[04:06:00]  I can't afford to be.
[04:06:01]  I can't hide anymore either.
[04:06:03]  So, but you can find me there on my website, dillcompstock.com.
[04:06:08]  You can reach me directly through there.
[04:06:09]  You can send me a message and I'll get it.
[04:06:11]  And then I always answer my messages, except the assholes.
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[04:06:21]  You tamed it down a little bit.
[04:06:22]  I had to fill it in, man, because you know what?
[04:06:23]  I started getting comments.
[04:06:24]  Oh, he dye his mustache.
[04:06:27]  It's always somebody complaining.
[04:06:28]  The homo's out there.
[04:06:29]  So I said, okay, I'll change the beard for them.
[04:06:32]  Fuck those pussies.
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[04:06:47]  I do coaching, life coaching.
[04:06:48]  I do a lot of life coaching.
[04:06:49]  I do a lot of business stuff, a lot of security stuff.
[04:06:52]  I own several companies around the world.
[04:06:53]  So I just do a lot of shit, man.
[04:06:56]  You know, I don't sleep a lot, but I'm living life.
[04:06:58]  You got to.
[04:06:59]  You got to, man.
[04:06:59]  You are a hell of a fucking role model to look up to, brother.
[04:07:03]  Appreciate it.
[04:07:03]  I appreciate you coming in and talking to me and for making the drive all the way down.
[04:07:06]  Yeah, no worries, man.
[04:07:07]  Thank you.
[04:07:08]  All right.
[04:07:08]  Yeah, that's all, folks.
[04:07:09]  Good night, everybody.