Danny Jones Podcast - #258 - Evil Inside the Vatican, Satan Worship & the Spy War Nobody Talks About | Ian Carroll
Aired: 2024-09-02
Duration: 03:06:20


=== Gunfire Analysis and Leaks (14:41) ===

[00:00:07]  Thanks for coming on the show, dude.
[00:00:08]  Oh, totally.
[00:00:09]  I'm super stoked.
[00:00:10]  I had somehow not found your show despite it being huge.
[00:00:14]  And then when I went to look it up, I started finding like all my heroes and people that I could die to talk to and people whose books I have like annotated and stuff.
[00:00:23]  So it was so cool to like find a huge resource of information that I'm looking for to like see an interview with John Perkins, see an interview with Christian, and, and, uh, Oh, yeah, Zach.
[00:00:33]  Zach's partner.
[00:00:33]  Yep.
[00:00:34]  Who made that doc?
[00:00:35]  Like, crazy doc.
[00:00:35]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:00:36]  So it's just like, okay, clearly these are conversations that I need to learn from.
[00:00:41]  And you must be accumulating so much knowledge about like so many cool, wild avenues of what's really going on out here.
[00:00:48]  Dude, there's so much.
[00:00:49]  There's so much out there.
[00:00:49]  It's hard to keep it all in your brain.
[00:00:51]  My hard drive's like overloaded.
[00:00:53]  But yeah, it's fun.
[00:00:54]  And you, like, when did you blow up on Twitter and become so famous for talking about all this crazy shit?
[00:01:03]  I blew up on Twitter.
[00:01:04]  Because of the Diddy trial.
[00:01:07]  And I might have been the first one that made the connection.
[00:01:11]  It was actually one of my followers that made the connection.
[00:01:14]  It wasn't me, because I'm not actually all that smart.
[00:01:16]  I'm just good at explaining things, good at taking notes.
[00:01:18]  And like, I was a teacher, so I'm good at that process.
[00:01:21]  But a follower was like, yo, Diddy's fixer guy in that court document, in those lawsuits, that was Michael Jackson's head of security.
[00:01:29]  And so then I went and started looking into Michael Jackson and realized that this guy, Fahim Muhammad, is like so sus.
[00:01:35]  He became the king of pop's head of security at age.
[00:01:38]  Fresh out of college with a business and marketing degree.
[00:01:41]  And then on his watch, Michael Jackson just happens to die.
[00:01:46]  And he's like second or third on the scene.
[00:01:49]  And then he immediately is like rewarded, apparently, essentially, by going and being the head of Diddy's security and essentially running this whole sexual blackmail scheme that Diddy was running.
[00:01:59]  And putting that together was kind of groundbreaking.
[00:02:02]  And Candace Owens picked it up and started pushing it out.
[00:02:05]  And that was probably like when I blew up on X and.
[00:02:08]  Specifically, but I had blown up on TikTok first, which was kind of strategic, but for sort of very different content, very much more like mainstream kind of.
[00:02:18]  That was when I was a little more less knowledgeable about what's really going on.
[00:02:23]  And as I started to hone in on like the bigger questions and essentially started talking about more and more censored topics, TikTok more and more was censoring my videos and taking stuff down.
[00:02:33]  And so X kind of came into my space at just the right time when I needed a platform where I could start talking about Epstein, start talking about the CIA.
[00:02:41]  Is that like right when Elon took over?
[00:02:43]  No, it was a while after Elon took over.
[00:02:45]  It's just when I got on X because people had been kind of encouraging.
[00:02:47]  They were seeing how censored and banned I was on TikTok.
[00:02:51]  And they'd been encouraging me for quite some time to go try out X.
[00:02:54]  It was mostly my crypto homies.
[00:02:56]  And there's a few accounts that were specifically like, yo, you've got to come over to Twitter.
[00:03:01]  It's where it's happening.
[00:03:01]  And I was resistant for a long time.
[00:03:03]  And then the moment I got over there, it only took like a day or two.
[00:03:06]  And I realized this is 100% where the conversations are happening, both because it's where there is more freedom of speech.
[00:03:13]  It's not.
[00:03:14]  Infinite, but also like the format just allows for, like, because you can share evidence, you can link tweets to tweets, you it just has a format that allows for discussion and debate directly in the comments of every post.
[00:03:26]  That TikTok is like, okay, 200 characters with no links, like, what are you going to do with that?
[00:03:31]  That's just a sensationalism machine.
[00:03:35]  So, isn't there something going on with uh, with Instagram?
[00:03:38]  I heard where they're like curating the comments on Instagram.
[00:03:41]  Have you heard about this a little bit?
[00:03:43]  Yeah, they're like showing you only the comments that like you.
[00:03:46]  You would agree with, or like that would get you to engage with them.
[00:03:50]  Instagram has a really weird set of algorithms going on, and they have this whole other dark side scandal thing about promoting like child content to people.
[00:03:59]  That's like a whole other thing.
[00:04:01]  But they don't seem to censor videos at all or nearly as much, in my experience personally.
[00:04:06]  But they censor comments like crazy for language, for content, for whatever.
[00:04:11]  But then they also do these weird, almost sentiment manipulation things that you wouldn't realize they're doing.
[00:04:19]  With TikTok, it's pretty obvious that videos are getting taken down.
[00:04:22]  People talk about it.
[00:04:23]  But with Instagram, it's far more subtle and maybe subversive.
[00:04:26]  I don't really know what to think of it.
[00:04:27]  Yeah, Instagram's so weird.
[00:04:29]  I was talking about this the other day.
[00:04:31]  Recently, I've been noticing that on posts on Instagram, like for Vice, for example, where they'll post a lot of pro Biden, pro Kamala, anti Trump shit.
[00:04:41]  The comments would always be like, Vice, go home.
[00:04:44]  You know what I mean?
[00:04:45]  They'd be like, more right leaning, moderate comments, kind of like, just like, what are you guys doing?
[00:04:51]  And then over the last few weeks, I've noticed it's been just full on board Kamala Biden, like, let's go defeat Trump.
[00:04:58]  And it seems super suspicious.
[00:05:00]  Like, what kind of bot campaign are they running here on Instagram?
[00:05:03]  There's one level where the platforms are probably running that to a certain degree.
[00:05:06]  I mean, we know they are.
[00:05:07]  There's like leaks about that.
[00:05:09]  But we also know that there are actual like intelligence agency bot farms.
[00:05:13]  I was just looking into the one run by the Israeli dude the other day.
[00:05:17]  That's like super interesting, kind of a rabbit hole I haven't fully dissected yet.
[00:05:21]  But we're in an age now where we all need to be aware that everyone you're talking to might be a bot.
[00:05:27]  And they are getting pretty sophisticated now, too.
[00:05:30]  So, yeah.
[00:05:31]  No, I had a guy on here a couple of days ago who.
[00:05:34]  Is like this crazy polymath dude who like just studies history and like republics and stuff.
[00:05:40]  And he has this whole theory, comprehensive theory based on historical events on why there's going to be a civil war in America after the election.
[00:05:49]  That's dark.
[00:05:50]  And like he talks about like how it'll happen, why it'll happen, what are like the four reasons it will happen.
[00:05:56]  But like what I came to realize is that like, like it feels like you're basing this all off of, Data that you've been reading online or from comments that you've been reading online, but you haven't really like gone outside and had a conversation with somebody.
[00:06:12]  And I'll say this again because it's a beautiful analogy to the real world.
[00:06:18]  My friend Julian Dory came up with this.
[00:06:20]  It's called, he calls it the Wawa theory.
[00:06:22]  He goes, You go online and you see, you know, all this stuff like with Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, all these people on Twitter that are making it seem like the world is burning, right?
[00:06:31]  But then you go to Wawa and you see the girl with the green hair opening the door, holding the door open for the guy with the Vietnam hat on.
[00:06:38]  Bingo.
[00:06:39]  So, it's not really like that.
[00:06:40]  The world's not burning down.
[00:06:41]  It's only to the people that haven't seen sunlight in a decade who just focus on social media 24 7.
[00:06:46]  Yeah.
[00:06:47]  And people like me that live in that journalism space, that like social media space, I think it's a trap a lot of us fall into of just your whole life starts to become these like culture wars and these like Twitter wars.
[00:06:58]  And it's so critical that we like step out of it and just go live real life and just go hang out with different people and just be kind and like realize that like we're all still humans and no one is like ready to fight over anything.
[00:07:09]  Yeah, like there are bad people in this world, but they just get amplified on the internet so much.
[00:07:14]  And I do think it's important, obviously, to be on the internet.
[00:07:16]  Like, I think the job that people are doing on the internet of trying to figure out what's going on is critically important.
[00:07:21]  And it's probably the most important tool of power that common people have and have ever had in history.
[00:07:29]  Like, the ability to decentralize the control of information is revolutionary.
[00:07:34]  But it comes with a lot of learning and responsibility for us to sort of figure out how we maintain social structure and just.
[00:07:44]  Emotional health while using those tools for good.
[00:07:48]  Yeah.
[00:07:49]  And I don't think we figured that out at all.
[00:07:50]  No, definitely.
[00:07:51]  At all.
[00:07:52]  Yeah.
[00:07:52]  It's crazy how boring summer's been since they shot Trump.
[00:07:56]  Not at all.
[00:07:57]  I saw how silent everyone's been since they shot Trump.
[00:07:59]  I saw this meme.
[00:08:00]  Not enough's going on right now.
[00:08:01]  Dude, it was this meme that was about how fast the Trump shooting disappeared.
[00:08:07]  And it was just like, think about all of the other news events that got a longer press cycle than Trump getting shot.
[00:08:14]  Dude, it's like.
[00:08:15]  The Olympic thing happened and then everyone forgot about Trump.
[00:08:17]  Bingo.
[00:08:18]  Yeah, it's like.
[00:08:19]  And that is such a wild rabbit hole where you either have to.
[00:08:23]  And I run this kind of litmus test on all events, is either.
[00:08:28]  Because everything has to have an explanation, even if it's mundane or it's not.
[00:08:31]  It's like every, there's nothing in the world that happens for no reason.
[00:08:33]  Like, random is a reason, but random has to have probabilities involved.
[00:08:37]  Like, you have to be able to explain it and be like, cool, that's how it happened.
[00:08:40]  And so, when you look at the Trump shooting, for example, you either have to think that all of the weird shit that happened is explainable by what they're telling you and that there's nothing suspicious about that kind of mainstream narrative about it, or you have to start asking a lot of questions and almost all versions of.
[00:08:59]  There's something suspicious about this, and there's questions to be asked.
[00:09:02]  Almost every version of that leads to at least some level of inside job or some level of someone being complicit in something.
[00:09:11]  And there's a lot of versions of what that might be.
[00:09:13]  But regardless of what that is, it's monumentally important because, like, that's an assassination attempt on one of the most important and polarizing figures in the last 50 years.
[00:09:24]  And it very well could have sparked things like World War III or things like massive government change.
[00:09:29]  Like, there's just so many implications.
[00:09:31]  That I think people are too politically charged right now to like the Trump crowd is super gravitating towards it, obviously.
[00:09:38]  But everyone who is not down with Trump, I think, is incentivized to ignore it because of that political leaning.
[00:09:44]  Yeah.
[00:09:45]  When like the implications of it should be apolitical.
[00:09:48]  Because if you suppose you didn't support JFK, the implications of JFK getting shot were still world changing for the rest of eternity.
[00:09:58]  And so I think that in many ways, and this happens in all fields, like our polarization of our political, like, Minds and emotions often make people tune into things that don't matter and tune out things that are massively important.
[00:10:13]  So I'm following that one super close because I think it's fascinating.
[00:10:16]  What is your theory on the Trump thing, the assassination attempt?
[00:10:20]  What's your latest?
[00:10:20]  I think before we go into it, it's important to state that anyone who thinks that they know what's happening in this world is way too confident in themselves.
[00:10:28]  We don't even know how physics works.
[00:10:30]  We don't know how gravity works.
[00:10:32]  We don't know shit.
[00:10:33]  But we can kind of speculate on probabilities.
[00:10:36]  And the way I like to think is just in terms of.
[00:10:38]  There's lots of possibilities, and some are more likely than others.
[00:10:41]  And as you get evidence, you kind of assess that one seems more likely to me, that one seems less likely, but I still just kind of keep them all in mind.
[00:10:48]  And there's probably way more evidence that's going to come out.
[00:10:50]  Exactly.
[00:10:50]  And you don't, it's not like you're so dumb that you can only think of one possibility and you can't even think about all three options at once.
[00:10:57]  And as evidence comes in, you can weigh it against those three possibilities, right?
[00:11:00]  So what I lean towards as being most likely is I think it's reasonably safe to assume at this point that it was a bullet that did go past his head.
[00:11:11]  That grazed him or like right past his ear.
[00:11:13]  And it like, there was a photo of the bullet that is pretty much corroborated by mainstream news that is very anti Trump normally.
[00:11:20]  So it's like, and like people were, people died.
[00:11:23]  So there were definitely bullets.
[00:11:25]  There was definitely shots.
[00:11:26]  The audio analysis makes me think that there was more than one gun being fired.
[00:11:30]  And it's like relatively easy to hear on basically every video that was taken by cell phones.
[00:11:36]  In the fact, do you know what I'm referring to there?
[00:11:39]  The audio now, you're talking about the shots being fired.
[00:11:40]  Yeah.
[00:11:41]  So like when you look at the videos, the shots that are fired is basically like, Like three cracks that echo in one way, and then a very fast volley of five that echo in a different way.
[00:11:52]  And there is an argument to be made that, like, the camera turns, and so maybe the phone is picking it up differently.
[00:11:56]  Right.
[00:11:57]  But I'm not necessarily convinced by that.
[00:12:00]  And then there is like a sniper shot and another shot.
[00:12:03]  And there's been other like highly experienced like combat veterans that have identified that they heard silenced rounds within that zone.
[00:12:13]  Silenced rounds?
[00:12:14]  Yeah.
[00:12:14]  Like, yeah, there's a really interesting clip that circulated around Twitter like a couple weeks ago of a Marine scout sniper, someone of that type of caliber, watching the footage.
[00:12:24]  And the moment he hears it, he's like, oh, I know what that is.
[00:12:27]  And they replay the sound a few times and he's like, you hear that?
[00:12:30]  That is a like suppressed round, not a.
[00:12:34]  And I don't think we need to, you don't need to know all that.
[00:12:37]  Like, you don't need to make decisions about that to realize that the level of incompetence is astounding.
[00:12:41]  The fact that people were redirected, when you start to analyze like all of the, cause we have a lot of footage of it now.
[00:12:47]  And we have what looks like, at first, had that been successful, had Trump been shot, there was the, there was indications that they had a story ready to pin it on Iran.
[00:13:00]  As in, they were sort of like, we're trying to pin the bank accounts or the phones that he had on Iran, which are still not explained.
[00:13:05]  Like, what 21-year-old, 22-year-old guy has no social media presence that the CIA and the NSA can't hack his phones?
[00:13:14]  That's bullshit.
[00:13:15]  I heard there was something that came out.
[00:13:17]  I don't remember where I saw it, but I heard there was something where they were able to track the location or NSA was able to track the location of a phone that was a part of the household he was in that visited an FBI place a couple weeks before.
[00:13:30]  It wasn't the household he was in, is that he had gone to a weird bowling alley and had what looks like a meeting when you track cell phone data and a few other like, there's not just government agencies, there's also dudes on Twitter that apparently have access to this cell phone data.
[00:13:45]  Lots of people are tracking it.
[00:13:46]  And yeah, he had what looks a lot like a meeting, like sit down in a spot for like one and a half hours or whatever it is.
[00:13:52]  I'm just kind of fudging numbers here next to another device that then they both leave.
[00:13:57]  And that device went to H like right next to HFBI HQ, right?
[00:14:01]  Which is just indications.
[00:14:02]  It's like all very suspicious.
[00:14:04]  And the fact that he's able to get there, like people are seeing him.
[00:14:07]  There's plainclothes officers that are clearly where everyone is pointing.
[00:14:11]  Like, there's a video that one of the first ones that came out, everyone's like filming him and like, look, there's a guy on the roof.
[00:14:17]  And then in the other videos that came out more recently, you can see plainclothes officers with guns drawn come around the building once the shots have been fired from that direction where all those people were that were pointing at this guy.
[00:14:29]  So there's just all these elements that point to like, this does not add up.
[00:14:35]  And just the fact that it's suspicious, not necessarily saying you know what it is or what happened, but the fact that what they're telling us is suspicious, aligned with the fact that it looked like there was a story prepared about Iran, which would be very logical.

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[00:14:48]  I mean, BB just happened to have a speech to Congress scheduled for the next week.
[00:14:54]  And he still, during that speech, ran with this like, he basically said in that speech that Iran tried to assassinate Trump.
[00:15:02]  That he, like, well, that's convenient.
[00:15:05]  Very convenient.
[00:15:06]  And I mean, Maybe it's a coincidence.
[00:15:07]  I don't know.
[00:15:08]  But I can't think of any country that that establishment, the sort of like Western Israeli CIA democratic establishment, would rather have than war with Iran right now.
[00:15:21]  And so when whatever happened got botched in whatever way it got botched, you start to see what also looks a lot like other botched, like for lack of a better term, deep state operations of the past.
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=== BlackRock Voting Control (16:06) ===

[00:17:37]  And it's just, I mean, they're all unique because they're all botched in different ways.
[00:17:40]  They're all different events.
[00:17:41]  But you start to see these patterns of when these things get botched, the cover ups start to all look the same.
[00:17:47]  And they are marked by things like no cell phone data and things getting confiscated and weird explanations that are like pinned on one shooter that is super.
[00:17:56]  Like you start to see these replicated patterns in these essentially patsy schemes that just.
[00:18:06]  They don't make me think I know what happened, but they certainly make me think I don't trust what I'm being told about what happened.
[00:18:14]  Yeah.
[00:18:15]  My first reaction to the Trump shooting thing was like if it was the CIA, they wouldn't have missed.
[00:18:23]  Or if it was a really well planned assassination attempt like Kennedy, they're not missing.
[00:18:28]  Well, do you know about how many people did miss in the Kennedy assassination attempt?
[00:18:31]  I don't.
[00:18:32]  So everyone has their own theories, right?
[00:18:36]  John Newman.
[00:18:38]  He's got a bunch.
[00:18:39]  No, but so I've looked in his stuff.
[00:18:42]  So John Newman, he's been on this podcast twice.
[00:18:44]  He is the one person that exists that has read all of the declassified JFK files.
[00:18:51]  Which is a lot of different books.
[00:18:53]  All the books that you read about JFK that have been written about JFK, and even the top JFK scholars will even say this.
[00:19:00]  They'll say all books that exist that are written about the JFK assassination are based off John Newman's books.
[00:19:07]  No one actually goes down and reads those sources.
[00:19:10]  Yeah.
[00:19:10]  Cause they're all in person, in paper, right?
[00:19:12]  They're all in that one location.
[00:19:13]  Exactly.
[00:19:14]  And you had to go there.
[00:19:15]  But regardless, it's like, it wasn't a single shot, right?
[00:19:18]  And it wasn't even just two or three shots.
[00:19:20]  There was like the bullet that hit the causeway and nicked the dude.
[00:19:23]  There was multiple shots that came in at Kennedy from multiple angles.
[00:19:26]  It was triangular.
[00:19:27]  Exactly.
[00:19:28]  Right.
[00:19:28]  Yeah.
[00:19:28]  And, but it like, but based upon their explanation, their single shooter Patsy, they would have loved to have had one shot hit Kennedy and he's dead, right?
[00:19:37]  And that did not happen.
[00:19:38]  And once that did not happen, and there's based on the timing, you can kind of see that.
[00:19:42]  First shots were fired, but then, you know, a few moments go by, and in the Zapruder film, he passes behind the sign.
[00:19:47]  He comes out from behind the sign, and that gives you enough time to realize, like, okay, he's not dead yet.
[00:19:52]  We need to kill him before he leaves the scene because if he doesn't die, then we're really in big trouble.
[00:19:57]  Right.
[00:19:57]  So then shots start getting fired, and that makes their story get completely ruined because, had it been just, you know, one or two shots that got him, that fits with the explanation of a patsy, you know, one rifle, a couple of shells.
[00:20:08]  And so all of the JFK weirdness comes from the fact that it didn't go off exactly as planned.
[00:20:13]  Right.
[00:20:13]  Because had it gone off as planned, we probably would have never even dug into it, never asked any questions because it would have been very, like, eh, one guy, a couple shots.
[00:20:20]  I love the Bill Hicks joke.
[00:20:21]  He's like explaining the whole thing and he's like, yeah, the Kennedy thing.
[00:20:24]  Where was the shooter?
[00:20:25]  Back there, yeah, exactly right.
[00:20:29]  And so, there's all these theories about what really happened, and I don't really, yeah, it doesn't really matter what really happened in a certain way, yeah, because what matters to me the most is that what happened is clearly not what they told us what happened.
[00:20:39]  And it's the Kennedy is just a fun one because it's so obvious because it was so botched.
[00:20:43]  But I think that we often over like a lot of people overestimate these sort of intelligence agencies and various like kind of groups in our world.
[00:20:52]  9 11 is another good example of one that, like, yeah, there's just enough that went weird and wrong that questions get asked, and this Trump one's.
[00:21:00]  Kind of has the same pattern in my mind of they would have loved for that to have happened differently.
[00:21:05]  And I don't know why it didn't happen that way.
[00:21:06]  I don't know who messed up or, I mean, there is a potential explanation of maybe it was supposed to happen the way it did ish.
[00:21:11]  Like maybe he wasn't supposed to get hit, but that's a lot harder for me to reconcile.
[00:21:15]  I don't know.
[00:21:16]  Yeah, it seems likely that maybe, you know, somebody in an intelligence or somebody in the military or somebody in maybe even like a big corporation with a lot of power.
[00:21:32]  You know, had a bad day or came to this decision, and maybe only like two or three people knew about it, or maybe less.
[00:21:39]  And somebody had some sort of influence with the Secret Service and was able to leave a building.
[00:21:43]  Like, how do we know?
[00:21:44]  Because, you know, another thing my one of my buddies told me was like, we don't know, we don't go back and study all of the different uh rallies that Trump has done or these other presidents have done and see how locked down they are or see how many buildings they leave open.
[00:21:59]  We only have everyone's only paying attention to this one thing, so we don't know how lackluster their security is on other.
[00:22:04]  Yeah.
[00:22:05]  On all their other campaign trail speeches.
[00:22:08]  And there's infinite stuff to look into these days.
[00:22:10]  So it's kind of like, how are you going to really collate all that information and data?
[00:22:14]  But I'm of the mind that, and this is kind of what I didn't intend to start looking into this stuff.
[00:22:19]  This is just sort of, I started with what are the most important things to understand?
[00:22:22]  Like, what are the most important questions to ask?
[00:22:25]  And that was what I wanted to make content about.
[00:22:27]  And at the first, I thought it would be money.
[00:22:28]  I thought it was like, how does money work?
[00:22:30]  Because money controls the world.
[00:22:31]  So I'm going to look into how money works and how companies work and how stocks work and how corporations work.
[00:22:36]  And that led to BlackRock, but that quickly led to intelligence agencies because I didn't really know anything about intelligence agencies.
[00:22:42]  And I think most people don't.
[00:22:43]  And there's a reason for that.
[00:22:44]  And once you start to learn the history of groups like the CIA, you know, MI6, Mossad, you start to realize that they were founded to conduct what war is today.
[00:22:57]  Like, war, ever since the nuke, has been a very different phenomenon.
[00:23:02]  And it's conducted primarily by covert means.
[00:23:05]  And these days, it's conducted by covert means inside of here.
[00:23:08]  And inside of our laptops, not exclusively, there are still proxy wars.
[00:23:11]  There's still a lot of stuff going on.
[00:23:13]  But you start to realize that information is not what it seems anymore.
[00:23:18]  And yeah, money is important to understand.
[00:23:20]  But if information is not what it seems, that's almost like a more important base layer to understand because that means you don't know what's real and what's not.
[00:23:28]  And so then you have to start to get a handle on so who are these groups and how do they operate and how do they influence information and events and stuff.
[00:23:36]  And basically, like the layman term for it is the deep state, although that term has been sort of Yeah.
[00:23:41]  Smeared.
[00:23:42]  Could be just the state, the bureaucracy.
[00:23:45]  And I think that there's the one side where people think like everyone's in on it.
[00:23:48]  It's a big plan, and it's like this group of men around a shadowy table, which is obviously not the case.
[00:23:55]  And then some people think it's like, oh, it's just capitalism, how it normally works, and it's just the government being the government.
[00:24:01]  It's like, I don't know about that.
[00:24:02]  Yeah.
[00:24:03]  Because I think there's obviously a sweet spot, and anyone that has ever run a business or just tried to do a thing in this world knows that when you have a goal that you want to achieve, you just look for people that you might be able to either work with to achieve that goal, like let's work together.
[00:24:20]  Or you look for people you might be able to sort of use to achieve that goal.
[00:24:23]  Like, I don't really want to tell him my actual plan because he won't, you know, want to go along with it.
[00:24:28]  But he kind of wants this thing.
[00:24:30]  And if I talk to him about he wants that thing, then we can both kind of want, like, there's a lot of ways to peddle influence and a lot of ways to get people to help you do things, especially when you're in a government, especially when you're in a COVID intelligence agency.
[00:24:39]  There's a lot of ways to sort of enact a conspiracy or, you know, that doesn't have to let everyone in on everything, that doesn't have to have everyone making decisions or like, Understanding the big picture, as long as the people at the top that wield enough power are sort of doing their best to sort of generally move things in a direction.
[00:24:58]  And that is exactly why covert intelligence agencies were formed the term plausible deniability is like the whole point, right?
[00:25:07]  In that you don't need the CIA if you're just going to go to war.
[00:25:11]  Like you can just send the military, they're way better at it.
[00:25:14]  You need the CIA when you need to do something secretly that if it gets caught, it won't come back on you.
[00:25:19]  That's the whole point of a covert intelligence agency.
[00:25:22]  Well, Truman wanted the whole point to be to have like an intelligence briefing.
[00:25:26]  He wanted information.
[00:25:27]  And Dulles and his boys were like, Yeah, that's not what we want.
[00:25:30]  Like, they're like, We want to go overthrow governments.
[00:25:33]  And they did.
[00:25:34]  Right.
[00:25:34]  And so, I mean, the ultimate point of it, the true reason for the CIA existing is for them to garner secrets from other countries that will help them to enact and shape American policies to put our global policy back.
[00:25:48]  Make our country number one.
[00:25:50]  Yeah.
[00:25:50]  Yeah.
[00:25:51]  And so that just inevitably starts to, when you follow that.
[00:25:56]  That objective with the means that they have, that just inevitably leads to like their job is to influence kind of events around the world in covert ways that are hard for us to decipher.
[00:26:07]  Right.
[00:26:08]  And, and I mean, call it the deep state, call it, you know, the Illuminati, call whatever you want, but that's their job.
[00:26:15]  And they started working with organized crime right from the start.
[00:26:17]  So it's like, what do you think is going to be the result?
[00:26:20]  They needed money to, they couldn't get this money from Congress.
[00:26:22]  Yep.
[00:26:23]  They needed the money, A, but they also just like, There's sometimes when they just didn't have the means because they weren't very good at their job at first.
[00:26:29]  The CIA, especially like Mossad, was pretty good at their job, I think, because they've been doing it for a long time, even before Israel was a state.
[00:26:35]  But CIA was like kind of incompetent at first.
[00:26:38]  And a lot of times they were actually going to other organizations like MI6 and Mossad and just buying information from them because they had money but not technique in the early days.
[00:26:47]  And like they, another good example of why, of how sometimes it wasn't like during World War II, this is technically before the CIA was formed, but Operation Underworld was when essentially the US government.
[00:26:59]  Was afraid that Germans were sabotaging the ports, sabotage like that could access the eastern seaboard because this big boat got blown up and sank in the harbor, despite it kind of like organized crime took credit for it later on.
[00:27:12]  But the government was like, the teams, like the unions and the mob essentially run the ports, and we can't really get a handle on the ports.
[00:27:22]  So why don't we just hire the mob to handle the ports?
[00:27:24]  Right.
[00:27:25]  And this is before the CIA was even formed, and they literally just hired the mob and the mafia to protect our ports.
[00:27:31]  Which is like, dude, what do the mob and the mafia want more than anything else?
[00:27:35]  Free smuggling all up and down the eastern seaboard.
[00:27:38]  So, you know, from the founding of the CIA, their job was to do covert actions around the world that'll influence global events.
[00:27:45]  And they were teamed up with organized crime from the very start and corporations, which are, you know, just a different brand of organized crime.
[00:27:52]  So once all that came together for me, my whole perspective on what my job was shifted.
[00:27:58]  Because before that, it had been like, how do stocks work?
[00:28:00]  How does money work?
[00:28:01]  How does BlackRock work?
[00:28:02]  How does all that work?
[00:28:03]  Which is important and it's interesting.
[00:28:04]  Yeah.
[00:28:05]  But then it shifted to like, all right, let's go down the conspiracy rabbit hole.
[00:28:10]  Because at that point, like, you know, call it what you want, but it's essentially, Conspiracy theories are now on the table.
[00:28:17]  And a lot of them are made up.
[00:28:17]  A lot of them are bullshit, but a lot of them are very factual.
[00:28:21]  A lot of them are actually just history.
[00:28:23]  How much involvement do you think BlackRock really has globally with the CIA and intelligence?
[00:28:28]  I mean, are they, some people would argue that BlackRock's too big to be involved in this.
[00:28:32]  They're not maneuverable enough.
[00:28:34]  They're not smaller.
[00:28:35]  They're like, they're not like an Apollo Global, for example.
[00:28:38]  Yeah, you know your shit.
[00:28:41]  And I don't have the answer to this, but I've done, I think I've done more research than a lot of the people that are talking about BlackRock conspiracy theories because BlackRock is like, The low hanging fruit of conspiracy theories.
[00:28:50]  And that's why I blew up on TikTok in the first place.
[00:28:52]  Because I was talking about this sort of basic shit before I really knew anything.
[00:28:57]  And the more I learned about BlackRock, I realized that, like, yeah, that does not really fly.
[00:29:00]  Like, if BlackRock is actually pulling strings behind the scenes, they're the best that's ever done it.
[00:29:06]  They're the most secretive.
[00:29:07]  They leave zero tracks.
[00:29:08]  They, like, if they're doing that, like, fuck Larry, good job.
[00:29:13]  But I don't think they are.
[00:29:14]  But they do play a really, really foundationally important role that I think most people just aren't necessarily equipped to understand.
[00:29:22]  In that, yeah, overthrowing governments and doing covert actions and like all the spy shit is very important to, you know, run the world if that's, you know, your goal or whatever.
[00:29:32]  But you still have to have a handle on money and on how commerce works and how finance works and just the global, like, because that's this sort of like beast of its own, right?
[00:29:42]  Capitalism just kind of does its own thing on a global scale.
[00:29:44]  And when you have all these trillions of dollars floating around, you might have the best plans in the world.
[00:29:49]  But if capitalism is incentivized to promote this, like, I don't know, green energy agenda, just making shit up, then you are going to have to go with that title flow or subvert it.
[00:30:02]  And BlackRock is, I mean, it's not just BlackRock, it's BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street, which is basically just owned by BlackRock more or less.
[00:30:11]  But what they do is they manage all of our retirement accounts.
[00:30:15]  They manage all of our sort of latent money that the regular people would hold.
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[00:31:31]  They manage all of our sort of latent money that the regular people.
[00:31:35]  Would hold that power.
[00:31:37]  And most people then get stuck on the money side of it.
[00:31:39]  And they think, well, yeah, but Black.
[00:31:41]  And so they think, oh, BlackRock controls all this money, they control the world.
[00:31:44]  But easily debunked because they don't.
[00:31:46]  They manage that money for us.
[00:31:47]  It's our money.
[00:31:48]  They don't own the shares, technically.
[00:31:50]  Like, technically, they're holding all these shares on our behalf.
[00:31:52]  That's a fair debunk, but it leaves out the piece that it's not about the money because capitalism is inherently democratic in the sense that every share represents a vote of a company.
[00:32:02]  Right.
[00:32:02]  And so, all these corporations like Procter Gamble, that's like putting poison in our lotion, like Unilever, that's putting poison in our food, like Johnson Johnson, that's putting literal asbestos in the baby powder and covering it up for 30 years, like every big corporation.
[00:32:17]  In the world, well, in America, let's just keep it to the SP 500, the stock market here, they are all majority owned by BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street to the point where all those shares represent the voting power.
[00:32:28]  And that voting power chooses who's in charge of those companies.
[00:32:31]  And so, when all in a real, like, capitalistic free market, we would all be represented in those companies because we would collectively, through our retirement accounts, through just our regular holdings, through all of our money, which is trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars, that would be us sort of collectively having voting power to decide who runs these companies.
[00:32:49]  And so, when Johnson Johnson gets caught, With asbestos in the baby powder and covering it up for 30 years, we would have something to say about it.
[00:32:55]  But it's written into all the contracts of all of the ETFs, exchange traded funds, mutual funds, index funds, all these things that BlackRock and Vanguard manage, that they manage the voting rights for the shares.
[00:33:05]  And some people, if you actively submit forms, you can request to represent your own voting rights, but no one does.
[00:33:12]  And so it's this weird scheme where what they have now done, and I don't know if it's on purpose and nefarious, but regardless, it's extremely useful if it's leveraged.
[00:33:21]  Is they have cut off our legs in terms of our representation in the entire stock market that would make all of those corporate executives beholden to us because they have a fiduciary duty.
[00:33:33]  It's legally binding that all of the boards of directors of all these companies and thus their executives, the CEOs and stuff, they have a fiduciary duty to serve the shareholders in the shareholders' best interest.

=== Nefarious Fiduciary Duties (03:26) ===

[00:33:43]  And in a theoretical world, that would be us.
[00:33:45]  And so it is illegal for them to do, even if it makes more money for the shareholders, if they're poisoning us.
[00:33:52]  And we don't want them to do it, and we're all telling them we don't want them to do it.
[00:33:55]  There's another layer of like, you're legally bound to do what's best for us.
[00:33:59]  But now their fiduciary duty is to BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street, technically, because those guys are the actual shareholders.
[00:34:06]  We are just the beneficial owners of an ETF share.
[00:34:09]  And so that means that now all of that fiduciary duty is consolidated into one central spot.
[00:34:15]  And every one of those guys knows that they don't lose their job if we get mad.
[00:34:20]  They lose their job if BlackRock or Vanguard or State Street get mad.
[00:34:23]  And so suddenly they are all.
[00:34:26]  All their interests are aligned to just please a few fund managers.
[00:34:30]  And if you tank a company and absolutely obliterate its value, you sell it for parts, you extract all that wealth, give your buddies a bunch of paychecks, and destroy this, whatever company it is, like Toys R Us, who knows, you don't necessarily get punished for that.
[00:34:45]  Because if that's what this sort of collective body, this money mind wanted to happen for any reason, you get rewarded with a bonus, with a new job.
[00:34:55]  Because if the guys representing all these shares, That work at BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, et cetera, and the banks along with it.
[00:35:03]  If they're pleased with what you did, it doesn't matter if it was in the company's best interest because it was in the shareholders' best interest.
[00:35:10]  So you suddenly, though you sunk that company through apparent mismanagement, you wind up being the CEO of this next big company and you get all these bonuses.
[00:35:19]  And so it just inherently cuts the legs off of capitalism in a way that makes the free market not represented in the way that it's run anymore.
[00:35:28]  And that's, I think, fundamental to why we wind up with all these psychopaths that are running all these companies and are.
[00:35:34]  Completely okay with doing things like putting poison in the food and not really caring if it poisons us because it makes a lot of money for everyone that's in the club.
[00:35:42]  It sort of creates the club, this corporate club, and it incentivizes them all to do what's best for the club, not for the consumer.
[00:35:48]  And we don't really have any recourse other than getting loud on Twitter now because our shares are all locked away into these funds.
[00:35:56]  Right.
[00:35:57]  So it's not that they control the world, but they do control this really important capitalistic piece of the world that you would have to have some level of a lid on if you wanted to achieve big things.
[00:36:12]  And it might not be nefarious, it might just be that they all benefit from it.
[00:36:16]  So, it's just evolved to be that way.
[00:36:18]  I don't know.
[00:36:19]  But it's an interesting one because there's like layers to, oh, it's the biggest conspiracy in the world.
[00:36:25]  Eh, not really.
[00:36:26]  Like, oh, but there's actually a layer where it's really nefarious and evil in ways that directly affect all of us.
[00:36:32]  Yes.
[00:36:32]  In a way that like the CIA overthrowing Guatemala doesn't necessarily affect you except for the price of bananas.
[00:36:38]  And I think that's why I blew up on TikTok is because I started to unpack that and show how, like, because this dude is in charge of this company that makes all your shampoo.
[00:36:47]  It's full of chemicals that are going to make your hair fall out.
[00:36:49]  And if you buy from a family owned business that's run by someone who likes a woman who cares about your hair, that hair product is not full of chemicals that make your hair fall out.
[00:36:58]  You should buy from her and support a real person.
[00:37:00]  And like F. Procter Gamble, who's like being sued for literal hair loss in their shampoo products.
[00:37:05]  And then right next door, there's a product from Procter Gamble to fix hair loss.

=== Bay Hotel Transponder Mystery (11:02) ===

[00:37:10]  And so those are things that affect us in real life that we can actually do something about by just changing our buying habits and starting to support small businesses and family owned businesses.
[00:37:19]  Right.
[00:37:20]  And that's like a whole other side of my content that a lot of people don't see that I love because it's kind of more grounded.
[00:37:27]  It's a little less like fun because it tends to be a lot of researching of just companies, researching who owns things, but it's super useful.
[00:37:34]  Yeah.
[00:37:35]  No, I appreciate hearing people like you elucidate the stuff with the stock market and big companies like Procter Gamble and BlackRock because I don't understand any of that shit.
[00:37:45]  I'm just not smart enough to comprehend financial institutions and the stock market and Wall Street and all this stuff.
[00:37:51]  But my introduction to this world was when I read this dude.
[00:37:58]  He's got this substack called True Hoops.
[00:38:00]  Interesting.
[00:38:00]  I've never heard of that.
[00:38:02]  His name is Stephen.
[00:38:04]  Find out his name.
[00:38:05]  He runs the True Hoop substack.
[00:38:07]  Basically, what he did is he wrote like a.
[00:38:09]  Abbott.
[00:38:09]  Henry Abbott.
[00:38:10]  Henry Abbott.
[00:38:11]  He wrote this 25 episode basically, this like long, there's like 25 different articles.
[00:38:20]  It's a series of articles.
[00:38:22]  That basically starts at like Apollo Global and the NBA.
[00:38:25]  This guy writes all about the NBA.
[00:38:26]  Yeah.
[00:38:27]  And he found out about the Apollo Global and Leon Black and all these guys and Buzzy Krongaard and how they're all like came up together, went to school together, and how like Buzzy Krongaard was a CIA guy who got on the board of all these companies, was partying with all of them.
[00:38:45]  And Buzzy Krongaard happens to also be the guy who was the one who shorted all the American Airlines stocks like a week.
[00:38:54]  Before 9 11 happened.
[00:38:55]  Interesting.
[00:38:56]  I don't know about the buzzy side of it.
[00:38:58]  I've done a little bit in Apollo because it's such a dark.
[00:39:00]  Yeah.
[00:39:01]  And it's the rabbit hole that never stops giving.
[00:39:04]  And it's such a unique point in history when Wall Street was financializing in a new way.
[00:39:08]  Like tech computers were changing the game, derivatives were changing the game.
[00:39:11]  And I think organized crime was changing the game in a big way.
[00:39:14]  And they just, like, Apollo is not the only one, but they're at the center of it in a big way.
[00:39:19]  And there's obviously a lot of Jeffrey Epstein connections in there, too.
[00:39:21]  Yeah.
[00:39:21]  Tons of Jeffrey Epstein connections and Mohammed bin Salman connections.
[00:39:25]  Yeah.
[00:39:26]  What's the guy, the arms trafficker?
[00:39:28]  Khashoggi.
[00:39:29]  Yeah.
[00:39:29]  Adnan Khashoggi.
[00:39:31]  The uncle, I believe, of that journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, that got chopped up one year to the day after the Vegas thing.
[00:39:38]  Jamal Khashoggi gets chopped up.
[00:39:40]  There's a whole interesting Saudi connection there.
[00:39:44]  I don't know because it's super weird, but I don't know anything about the Vegas.
[00:39:47]  Man, it's such a wild rabbit hole.
[00:39:49]  Let's do it for just a second.
[00:39:50]  Let's do it.
[00:39:50]  Get this whole thing canceled.
[00:39:52]  Yeah, perfect.
[00:39:53]  Anyone that doesn't know about it, you should Google Las Vegas map.
[00:39:59]  And there's a Google Maps file that someone has compiled on the internet.
[00:40:03]  Steve, you can find it.
[00:40:03]  I think it's called vegasmap.com.
[00:40:07]  And it's hard to find on Google.
[00:40:08]  It's easier on some of the other search engines like Brave, it's like the third or fourth hit.
[00:40:12]  But it's a compilation on Google Maps that they've made their own file where it's got sources, like the primary sources linked to the map of all the videos that were taken, of autopsy reports, of all the 911 calls in audio format.
[00:40:26]  No, not that.
[00:40:27]  Just Google search for it.
[00:40:30]  You'll know it's like a Google My Maps file.
[00:40:34]  If you look for Las Vegas map.
[00:40:42]  You might have to go to a different search engine too, like DuckDuckGo, for example.
[00:40:47]  Go to DuckDuckGo.
[00:40:48]  But, anyways, it's got all this primary source information on it.
[00:40:52]  And it's a great resource for people that don't know anything about the Vegas thing because there's way too much for us to cover here.
[00:40:59]  But the building, the structure, this is it.
[00:41:03]  Yeah.
[00:41:03]  So, all of these weird dots here, these are all pieces of evidence.
[00:41:08]  They're actual videos, they're police body cams.
[00:41:10]  They are.
[00:41:11]  Was it Dan Bilzerian there?
[00:41:13]  Like Dan Bilzerian was there.
[00:41:14]  I talked to him about it and he's got an interest.
[00:41:15]  He actually kind of like redirected me on a different angle that I hadn't really considered because there's all these helicopters that are flying around that are not officially there that don't exist.
[00:41:26]  But the building, the structure on top of the Mandalay Bay Hotel that is not in any of the videos because it's kind of like retracted back from the top, it's actually a different hotel structure that is owned by the Saudi royalty.
[00:41:39]  It's a famous hotel chain.
[00:41:40]  I forget which one it is, but they like are the majority owners of the.
[00:41:43]  Of that company.
[00:41:44]  A structure on top?
[00:41:46]  Yeah.
[00:41:46]  So it's like, it's just like a penthouse, like structure suites.
[00:41:49]  Like, okay.
[00:41:49]  So it's like Mandalay Bay Hotel is this building.
[00:41:51]  But then on top, there's like another structure up there that is sort of like, you know, one or two or three floors or something of these like penthouse suites that are owned by a different hotel company.
[00:42:00]  And they're owned by Saudi royalty as like their majority owners.
[00:42:03]  And so a lot of people went down this angle of like, Mohammed bin Salman was allegedly there.
[00:42:07]  People say they have video of him.
[00:42:09]  And I don't know for sure, but he was apparently in the hotel's gambling or something.
[00:42:13]  So there's this whole angle that is hard to say one way or the other.
[00:42:17]  But After the Vegas happened, like one month later, is when Mohammed bin Salman went on the Saudi purge where he arrested like all of these Saudi royalty that he said were corrupt.
[00:42:27]  He purged corruption out of the Saudi government.
[00:42:29]  Right.
[00:42:29]  And right before it had been when he had been given the crown, so to speak, over his brother, or not his brother, like one of the other princes, um, uh, uh, bin, I forget his name, the evil one.
[00:42:43]  Right.
[00:42:43]  It's like aligned with all the people.
[00:42:45]  And Khashoggi is obviously aligned with Epstein because Epstein, a lot of people don't know that Epstein's like early days when he went from banking at Bear Stearns.
[00:42:53]  But before he became a trafficker, those like in the 80s, those middle days, he was arms trafficking with Anand Khashoggi.
[00:42:59]  Anand Khashoggi was like the person that brought Epstein from being just a banker into the Mossad intelligence aspects.
[00:43:05]  And so Jamal Khashoggi is probably linked in some ways to that.
[00:43:09]  And he used to work for Saudi intelligence.
[00:43:11]  Like he's not just a journalist.
[00:43:14]  And so then one year later to the day, he winds up all chopped up.
[00:43:18]  So there's just all these little things that sort of imply the Saudis are involved, not to mention like the crazy fucking firepower that was leveled on civilians.
[00:43:26]  And not on civilian?
[00:43:27]  I don't know.
[00:43:28]  Dan had a really great theory that sort of like a lot of the conspiracy theorists theorize that these helicopters are out there having like they're shooting at the civilians and they're shooting at the structure on top, the penthouse or something.
[00:43:40]  And maybe there is like in some of those autopsy reports that people eventually got access to, there are people that were shot directly down through the top of their head.
[00:43:48]  Really?
[00:43:49]  Yeah.
[00:43:49]  So there were helicopters or there were not?
[00:43:51]  Oh, there were 100% helicopters.
[00:43:52]  Yeah.
[00:43:53]  And they are, and people found them on the like the flight trackers.
[00:43:56]  You can see their transponders and the helicopters.
[00:43:58]  Before the shooting even starts, they fly three of them over top of the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
[00:44:03]  They turn off their transponders 15 minutes before the shooting starts, and then their transponders are off until after the shooting is all over and they turn them back on and like fly away.
[00:44:12]  And then there's so there's like all these weird crates, and not to mention that the shooting itself, everyone with any military training, Dan included, all say that that is a belt fed machine gun.
[00:44:22]  That is 100% not a bump stock M4.
[00:44:24]  What?
[00:44:25]  That is 100% not what they say it is because bump stocks are also famous for malfunctioning.
[00:44:29]  Like a bump stock is like.
[00:44:30]  It uses the recoil of the gun to re chamber the round, and they just you can just look them up on YouTube.
[00:44:37]  People like they're kind of like a gimmick, like a and so they will, like, yeah, they'll kind of shoot like automatic fire, right?
[00:44:43]  Like, but inevitably, it will jam, especially if you're gonna like fire full auto at that kind of rate over and over and over and over.
[00:44:52]  They said this.
[00:44:52]  So, the conventional theory official story is one guy single shooter that had this whole room just loaded up with guns, yep, and and he smashed out the window with this special hammer and he just.
[00:45:05]  Unloaded with these, like, you know, conventional assault rifles with bump stocks all the way across into this parking lot, which is like a long shot.
[00:45:15]  A bunch of headshots happened.
[00:45:16]  Where, so where we're looking at this, where's the Mandalay Bay Hotel?
[00:45:19]  Mandalay Bay is down left.
[00:45:21]  It's where all the yellow dots are down left of the parking lot.
[00:45:24]  Right there.
[00:45:25]  Yeah, right there.
[00:45:26]  That's the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
[00:45:27]  Okay, got it.
[00:45:27]  He's on like the 34th floor or something like that.
[00:45:29]  I forget the exact floor.
[00:45:30]  And he's shooting across and diagonal over that parking lot, which is where the festival was.
[00:45:34]  Got it.
[00:45:34]  That's the official story.
[00:45:35]  He never left the room.
[00:45:37]  He, He shot 12 volleys and maybe some like bolt action rifle and stuff.
[00:45:42]  And then he committed side alone in the room with no one there.
[00:45:46]  And like an hour before the police even got to his door with an arsenal of ammunition and weapons all around him, still ready to go.
[00:45:54]  He just was like, I'm bored and I'm tired and I'm out.
[00:45:57]  And he shot himself allegedly.
[00:45:58]  Was there any evidence that anyone was in there with him?
[00:46:00]  Yes, lots.
[00:46:01]  There was three there.
[00:46:02]  So on the in the hotel records, there were two women, three women, I think two, actually like.
[00:46:09]  Staying with him in that hotel room on the hotel records.
[00:46:13]  But so there's all these inconsistencies, and that doesn't make any sense.
[00:46:17]  But and then, like, they have the photo of him dead, like the crime scene photo, and it's pretty visually obvious that what you are looking at is a dude with a fresh blood, like a bullet hole in his head with fresh blood pooling on top of a dried blood stain.
[00:46:31]  It's like clearly two different colors of blood happening here.
[00:46:34]  Oh, shit.
[00:46:35]  Right in the forehead?
[00:46:37]  You don't really see the bullet hole, but there's also a lot of evidence that the windows were not actually smashed out.
[00:46:42]  Like, the Photos of the crime scene that show the hammer and the smashed glass that are like, look, he busted the window with his hammer.
[00:46:48]  They don't really look like what's on the police body cams that got leaked or released of the cop that entered the room with all the cops.
[00:46:55]  So there's all these inconsistencies.
[00:46:57]  But then all around Las Vegas, there's all these 911 calls of people that are saying that they either are seeing people running with guns through these hotels or they're hearing shots in hotels that are like three blocks up the strip, like at the Tropicana.
[00:47:12]  The Bellagio has like 10 different calls in it of people saying that they heard a shot inside the Bellagio and that there's like.
[00:47:17]  People freaking out.
[00:47:18]  There are people that work at the hotels.
[00:47:22]  There's cops that got handed, like, an automatic pistol was found on the ground and a civilian picked it up and was like, this doesn't belong here and handed it to a police officer, like, hey, I found this.
[00:47:32]  There's like all these weird anomalies all over Vegas, like, super far away from Mandalay Bay.
[00:47:38]  And it's not necessarily like some of that might be people that are just freaking out.
[00:47:43]  Some of it might be people that are hearing echoes.
[00:47:45]  Right.
[00:47:45]  But a lot of those 911 calls happened like long after the Mandalay Bay shooter had stopped shooting.
[00:47:50]  And they're reporting, like, I heard, there are five shots I just heard in this lobby of this hotel.
[00:47:54]  There's like, There's, and when you go through enough of this sourcing, you start to realize like this is so beyond suspicious in so many ways.
[00:48:02]  And a lot of the conspiracy theorists arrive at this theory that these helicopters were doing the shooting.
[00:48:08]  And that could be true.
[00:48:09]  Dan re kind of redirected.

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[00:48:12]  Right?
[00:48:12]  For what?
[00:48:14]  Like, so there's the layer of like, it's to grab our guns, it's to make us scared of guns, like a false flag mass shooting.
[00:48:22]  And that's the only, that doesn't line up with everything.
[00:48:24]  Like, it maybe lines up with some of it.
[00:48:26]  Right.
[00:48:26]  Like, how do you fit Ben Salman into that?
[00:48:29]  Not one bit.
[00:48:30]  Well, that's how, how do you fit like all of the other inconsistent?
[00:48:35]  If you wanted to do that, you would just have a bunch of people walk into the festival with guns and shoot everybody.
[00:48:41]  Or you would just have just the dude shooting and you wouldn't have all this other weird anomalies happening.
[00:48:46]  You wouldn't have helicopters in there.
[00:48:48]  Like, you don't need that to make people scared of guns.
[00:48:50]  Black helicopters.
[00:48:51]  Yeah.
[00:48:51]  And so then the conspiracy theorists go to the next layer where they go like the Saudis and like they came after Ben Salman in that penthouse up top and they're shooting him with these helicopters with machine guns on them.
[00:49:00]  But then that doesn't account for why they would then be shooting up a music festival full of civilians.
[00:49:04]  It's like the explanation is as a distraction to like confuse law enforcement and to just like everything up.
[00:49:10]  It's like maybe, maybe, I don't know.
[00:49:14]  But Dan put out, Dan got me on a great point that like those, that's not like what those helicopters would normally, as it from a special forces perspective, those helicopters are probably exfiltration, not attack.
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=== Witnessing the Unloading (05:50) ===

[00:51:23]  Like, it's far more likely that helicopters would go in to exfiltrate the Saudi crown prince and get him out of there than to, like, you don't like, like, that's like Jason Bourne movie shit.
[00:51:35]  You don't like put a bunch of machine guns on a bunch of helicopters in the middle of downtown Los Angeles and then just go and unload automatic fire all over the city.
[00:51:43]  Like, that's the sloppiest thing you could ever do.
[00:51:46]  And my brain goes to, like, if you're unloading an automatic machine gun on the Mandalay Bay in any format, You would have windows smashed all over the place.
[00:51:54]  You'd have broken glass all up and down every floor of that thing.
[00:51:57]  Like, all those rounds either must have gone because you can hear them.
[00:52:01]  They either must have all gone into the crowd or they must have all gone maybe like onto the roof of the Mandalay Bay specifically, or Lord knows what.
[00:52:11]  I think that I'm starting to lean towards, and this is by no means concrete.
[00:52:15]  I'm leaning towards maybe there was some sort of firefight on the roof, like someone holed up and like they bring it, like, you know, if it's like.
[00:52:22]  A bunker.
[00:52:24]  I could see you then maybe bringing up some machine guns and just like unloading on like a bunker where people are like hiding and trying to keep the crown prince protected inside.
[00:52:32]  Yeah.
[00:52:32]  So you essentially have a firefight, a kind of in and out of an armored fortified position.
[00:52:37]  Yeah.
[00:52:38]  And then there's like an exfiltration happening with helicopters or something.
[00:52:41]  And then maybe all these other weird sightings are like sort of the supplementary forces like exiting the premises.
[00:52:47]  But that doesn't account for the whole festival shooting that clearly is like.
[00:52:52]  And so I think, regardless of what it was, it was more than one thing at once.
[00:52:56]  And I think it's very likely that whatever it was was so botched that, and maybe it was botched because it was botched, but maybe it was botched because it was interrupted or like counterattacked or who knows.
[00:53:07]  But regardless, that makes it hard to analyze the signature of what it is.
[00:53:12]  Cause you know, once something goes wrong, like the JFK shooting goes wrong, then suddenly actions don't necessarily align with like the ideal way to do something because it's actually just a bunch of dudes with guns freaking out and doing their best to get out alive and to like make it work based on their objective and what's going on in this crazy situation.
[00:53:29]  And that makes it really hard as a journalist to posthumously go in and look at the evidence and say, look, this all makes sense.
[00:53:36]  Because inevitably, a dude running around with a gun in the middle of a music festival is going to do irrational things.
[00:53:42]  It's hard to explain it with logic.
[00:53:45]  So I don't know.
[00:53:46]  It's like a total mystery, but it's a mystery that got swept under the rug, got completely shadow banned.
[00:53:50]  A bunch of the people that were there that were speaking out about multiple shooters died afterwards, like quietly, just like left the world.
[00:53:58]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:53:59]  And then that all gets censored too.
[00:54:01]  And so then it's like hard to tell what's real.
[00:54:03]  So I'm in the process right now of kind of getting access to the journalists that were primary on it, that were reporting that in like when it was happening, and just kind of unpacking it all because it's hard to go back and know what to trust because that's a crazy allegation, right?
[00:54:17]  That these people, like all these witnesses died.
[00:54:19]  Yeah.
[00:54:20]  But I've heard it from a lot of different people now.
[00:54:22]  And so I'm starting to be like, it's like at least 50% credible, and I've got to corroborate that.
[00:54:28]  It's weird that this story is super shadow banned everywhere.
[00:54:31]  Well, it makes sense that it's super shadow banned everywhere because.
[00:54:34]  If it's anything but what they told us, holy lord, they've got to shadow ban the hell out of it.
[00:54:39]  Because essentially, regardless of what it is, it's basically us getting a direct look into some sort of like the wars that are happening between these covert agencies and these covert groups, yes, that kind of really run the world.
[00:54:55]  Like, yes, and and whatever it was that happened, if if we were to get at that truth, a lot of things would probably unravel.
[00:55:04]  Um, And maybe some of them are still ongoing because, like, bin Salman right now is in the middle of the peace deal in Israel.
[00:55:11]  And, like, Saudi Arabia right now is critical to the global war and peace structures.
[00:55:19]  Like, there's a lot going on that are probably still active.
[00:55:23]  How did you find this?
[00:55:24]  Imagine that.
[00:55:24]  She just Googled it?
[00:55:26]  Eight Las Vegas witnesses dead within 30 days of attack.
[00:55:29]  Yeah.
[00:55:30]  One month after Las Vegas occurred on October 1st, observers are still looking for a satisfactory answer to the shooting, claiming mainstream media has given up on covering the attacks.
[00:55:39]  Conspiracy theorists believe the public has bought into the lone wolf scenario that claimed 59 lives.
[00:55:46]  Interesting.
[00:55:46]  It's on a criminal list.
[00:55:47]  Wait, wait, look at this.
[00:55:48]  So, the second paragraph is these other paragraphs are critical.
[00:55:51]  Yeah.
[00:55:51]  Eight key witnesses, can you zoom in a little bit?
[00:55:53]  Perished in questionable conditions.
[00:55:56]  According to WUN News, the report says that each of the eight had something in common besides being present throughout the gunfire.
[00:56:06]  They each knew details of the massacre which contradicted the authorized narrative.
[00:56:11]  Four of the seven gave accounts to the media which stated that there was more than one shooter, others died before they could speak out.
[00:56:19]  And what most of those allegations were, I believe, is that there were shooters on the ground.
[00:56:24]  Actually, in the crowd at the festival.
[00:56:27]  And when you look at the pattern of deaths, like on that Google Maps file, the bodies are a lot of them are in the middle of the festival.
[00:56:34]  But then there's at least one whole grouping that is like top right when you're looking at the map.
[00:56:39]  That would be like kind of north.
[00:56:41]  Basically, it's like farther away from the shooter.
[00:56:43]  There's a whole grouping of bodies that was essentially obstructed from view of the shooter outside the festival and behind like kind of the fences of the festival on the other side from him.
[00:56:53]  And so you start to, and a lot of the witnesses say that there were people.
[00:56:57]  With guns that came in from the sides into the.
[00:57:00]  And when you look at, like, there's a ton of headshots, like clear headshots.
[00:57:04]  You can see in the videos of like the cops in the cell phone videos, you can see a few different instances where the cops are like, damn, that's like a clean headshot.

=== Free Speech on Twitter Files (15:13) ===

[00:57:14]  Like, or really?
[00:57:15]  Damn, right between the eyes.
[00:57:16]  Yeah, like they say it verbally while they're looking.
[00:57:17]  Where are these videos available?
[00:57:19]  Oh, they're in that map.
[00:57:20]  Yeah.
[00:57:21]  They're in.
[00:57:21]  Oh, yeah, they're in that map.
[00:57:22]  And or on YouTube, there's more.
[00:57:24]  And so there's a ton to dig through because a lot of the cell phone videos are mostly shorter, but a lot of the body cam videos are like three hours long.
[00:57:30]  Two hours long.
[00:57:31]  So it's a lot to sift through.
[00:57:32]  But what happens when you publish stuff like this on YouTube?
[00:57:36]  Have you tried yet?
[00:57:37]  On YouTube, I've not.
[00:57:39]  It got flagged on TikTok at first and then it went back up when I appealed it.
[00:57:44]  It's still live on Instagram.
[00:57:45]  It blew up on X. Really?
[00:57:47]  It seems to be working.
[00:57:48]  And I didn't go.
[00:57:51]  I think I'm reasonably good these days at walking this line between like presenting the evidence that will get you in trouble.
[00:57:59]  It's like if you don't present too much, you just present enough that really gets people.
[00:58:02]  Thinking and shows them clearly there's more to this than you've been told.
[00:58:07]  But I'm not going to like break any new whistleblower testimony.
[00:58:10]  I'm not going to like, you know, leak documents that are going to newly incriminate people.
[00:58:15]  And so it's this fine line where I think that I've, and I learned it from TikTok because TikTok is so censor happy.
[00:58:20]  Yeah.
[00:58:21]  That if you walk it right, you can usually get like the information that's already out there reframed in a way that, because a lot of times it's not framed in a way where you can digest it all at once.
[00:58:30]  A lot of times you have to like ingest all this conspiracy theory literature or all these documents, read all these reports.
[00:58:36]  And if, and I'm, Reasonably good at taking all of that and putting it into like a six second video that's already all out there.
[00:58:42]  Yes.
[00:58:42]  But now I've gotten it in a story that put the pieces together where it's like, oh, I kind of get why this matters now.
[00:58:47]  You do a great job of consolidating all the most interesting points of a story and putting it in there and showing, like, you show the graphics, you show the websites, and then you even do, like, when I watched your one about the shooter, you're like, just type in these three words.
[00:58:59]  I'm not going to say what they are.
[00:59:00]  Yeah.
[00:59:01]  Yeah.
[00:59:01]  Because that can be like the catalyst for somebody to like fall down one of these rabbit holes.
[00:59:04]  And that's such an important part.
[00:59:06]  And it's part of the, it's part of what I do that I don't.
[00:59:08]  Really like to tell people as much, but the point is not just to get information out there.
[00:59:13]  The point is to change our culture around information and to inspire accurate sourcing of information and inspire people to do their own research.
[00:59:22]  Because the way I look at the world today, we used to live in a centralized media model where, in order to get information out, you had to own a printing press, you had to own a news agency, you had to own a TV channel, whatever it was.
[00:59:32]  That's all centralized.
[00:59:33]  And we don't have any power to decide what we get shown.
[00:59:36]  And so the CIA can run Operation Mockingbird.
[00:59:39]  And like, you know, control all the news.
[00:59:41]  Right.
[00:59:41]  But now we've got the decentralized information space that is amazing in so many ways, but it comes with a lot of its own problems, right?
[00:59:48]  And a lot of the problems of this decentralized, like, Twitter information space is misinformation, is how, like, people can, like, make a story about how, like, Kanye West is dead.
[00:59:58]  And whether it's true or not, it can just run.
[01:00:01]  Like, shit can just.
[01:00:02]  And so the key thing is that we all need to evolve our way of consuming information, even as regular people, not like the journalists.
[01:00:11]  Not the podcasters, like all of us regular folks, everyone needs to understand that now the onus is on you.
[01:00:18]  The locus of control is internal now because you're getting all the data feed of all the information.
[01:00:23]  And a lot of it's made up, a lot of it's fake, a lot of it's bullshit, a lot of it's propaganda that's paid for.
[01:00:27]  A lot of it is actually the CIA or Mossad running information campaigns in your Twitter feeds.
[01:00:33]  And so you have to go to the sources and find them yourself.
[01:00:35]  And you have to find the journalists that show their sources because if you're not showing your sources, it's just your opinion.
[01:00:41]  And that's, I picked that up.
[01:00:43]  I had really good teachers when I was young.
[01:00:44]  Like, that is just straight out of my middle school, like, history class primary sources are gold.
[01:00:49]  And if you don't have primary sources, you better have secondary sources.
[01:00:52]  And regardless of what your sources are, you better be able to show them.
[01:00:55]  Because if you can't, how would I ever believe you, right?
[01:00:58]  And so I purposefully include, like, the URLs in my videos, the pages I'm drawing from.
[01:01:03]  Because sometimes, like, with the Vegas stuff, for example, we don't know what happened.
[01:01:09]  And, like, who knows how valid your sources are?
[01:01:12]  But I can just show that, like, this is a primary source, this is just a video.
[01:01:16]  From that day, or here's a phone call from that day, or here's an article that was written about it.
[01:01:20]  And so it just lets people understand where the conclusions are coming from and draw their own conclusions instead of what sort of maybe like the first generation of influencers or a lot of people still do, where they just sort of tell you what to think without letting you have the actual sources of information.
[01:01:39]  And I think that's one of the most important things I do that sort of is beneath the service, but I'm hoping it's sort of like.
[01:01:46]  That's the, I talk about this.
[01:01:48]  This is something I think about a lot too, especially with like the media landscape.
[01:01:51]  I mean, you just laid it out beautifully, but like the majority of the media that you see on social media, on YouTube, even on the television is just like the JFK books, right?
[01:02:04]  There's maybe one guy who witnessed it in person, who read the sources.
[01:02:08]  And then there's this million mile layer of people regurgitating it and regurgitating it and regurgitating it.
[01:02:16]  And it's just like this game of telephone.
[01:02:18]  And people, a lot of people, And I'm guilty of this too.
[01:02:23]  Have these podcasts, right?
[01:02:25]  And I can sit in here and talk on the mic about the Las Vegas, about JFK, about the Middle East, about Israel.
[01:02:33]  I've never been there.
[01:02:34]  I don't know what it's like to live there.
[01:02:36]  I don't know what those people live like.
[01:02:38]  And like, I can have an opinion on it.
[01:02:42]  That's pretty crazy that I can have an opinion on it and people will listen to it and be like, oh, I think he's onto something.
[01:02:48]  I think I'll adopt that opinion for myself.
[01:02:51]  It's so.
[01:02:52]  And weird, man.
[01:02:53]  And it's powerful in some ways, but it's powerful for good and for bad.
[01:02:56]  And I think what you're describing is exactly it.
[01:02:59]  And we don't see it anywhere more clearly than on Twitter right now because X is now monetized in a pretty big way.
[01:03:06]  And so I'm getting like, you know, $3,000 a month or whatever to post content.
[01:03:10]  And I know every time a big story breaks, I know that if I just hit retweet, if I see a big story and it's like posted three minutes ago and the news has just broken, regardless if it's true or not, like Joe Biden has a health scare in Las Vegas, he's dead, which we're still not totally clear if that was like solid reporting by Laura Loomer or not.
[01:03:28]  Seems like it probably was the health scare, not necessarily the dead part.
[01:03:32]  Right, right.
[01:03:33]  Although there's a funny rabbit hole there.
[01:03:35]  That is a funny one.
[01:03:35]  But like if I find that story when it breaks right away, Five minutes ago, and I repost that as quickly as possible with the catchiest phrase possible, I can make money off that.
[01:03:45]  And I will.
[01:03:45]  Off a retweet?
[01:03:46]  Oh, yeah.
[01:03:47]  Yeah.
[01:03:47]  Really?
[01:03:47]  So if I quote tweet it.
[01:03:48]  Quote tweet it.
[01:03:49]  Got it.
[01:03:49]  I got to quote tweet it.
[01:03:50]  Interesting.
[01:03:50]  Yeah, because then it's a post of mine and I'm getting views off of that.
[01:03:53]  And it's an actually really interesting breakdown by my boy Penny that the payment is actually for ads in your feed.
[01:03:58]  It's not for people just looking at your post.
[01:04:00]  Right, right.
[01:04:00]  So there's all this other stuff.
[01:04:01]  But that's the inherent incentive system on X right now.
[01:04:05]  And so everyone is incentivized to break the most shocking story first and as quickly as possible.
[01:04:10]  And you don't have to be the first one.
[01:04:12]  You just have to be in that wave of the first.
[01:04:13]  Big accounts that break it.
[01:04:15]  And then everyone will draw into yours and you'll get like, you know, 5 million views.
[01:04:18]  And that adds up.
[01:04:19]  And that's how you get paid.
[01:04:20]  And that's super dangerous.
[01:04:22]  It's dangerous for like the sanctity of information, but it's also dangerous for the credibility of a journalist.
[01:04:27]  And I think people are starting to really realize this that you have to be really careful.
[01:04:31]  And I'm guilty of this too.
[01:04:32]  I'm not perfect by any means.
[01:04:35]  You have to be careful about what you are willing to sort of like speed jump on.
[01:04:40]  Because if you start jumping on stories when they first break, a lot of times they're.
[01:04:44]  Just literally made up.
[01:04:46]  And sometimes they're just misinterpretations of the facts or jumping to a conclusion that's logical.
[01:04:51]  But in this, like, for example, the plane that went down in Brazil the other day, yeah, or whatever, tragically.
[01:04:56]  Yeah.
[01:04:56]  I tweeted, like, wonder who made that plane.
[01:04:59]  Right.
[01:04:59]  Because I assumed it was probably Boeing.
[01:05:01]  But I also, like, I had worded it in some way that was, like, directly condemning Boeing for it.
[01:05:06]  Right.
[01:05:06]  I was like, maybe I shouldn't go that hard.
[01:05:08]  I mean, in hindsight, what I should have done is just looked it up.
[01:05:11]  Right.
[01:05:11]  And done that research for myself and taken those 10 minutes.
[01:05:14]  But it's cool.
[01:05:14]  Somebody can post a link, like, right below it and a comment that corrects it.
[01:05:18]  And then you can amplify them or retweet their comments.
[01:05:21]  Exactly.
[01:05:21]  So that's the media literacy thing that I think we all need to get better at.
[01:05:24]  And that's on all of us to learn to source information better, to learn to go to the comment section and double check things better, to learn to not believe things when you just see it.
[01:05:33]  And to learn that we are incentivized, like influencers, people in my position are incentivized to report the most sensational stuff as quickly as possible, at least on X.
[01:05:41]  It's a little different than other platforms, but inherently that temporality of news incentivizes being fast.
[01:05:49]  And you know, Speed and accuracy are inherently diametrically opposed often.
[01:05:54]  How much do you think, and I don't know how much you've thought about it, but how involved do you believe various intelligence agencies are in behind the scenes and social media?
[01:06:06]  Oh, I think about a lot.
[01:06:07]  And I think it is massively, like, I think it's huge, way bigger than most people think.
[01:06:12]  I think the Twitter files really kind of like exploded this thing.
[01:06:15]  Yeah, there was that version of it where before Elon bought X, I don't think anyone had realized it, but if you start to think, Go through our history from MySpace till today.
[01:06:27]  We had never, because the Twitter files showed us that the government was actively asking all of the social media companies, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, X, Google, just like, hey, censor this information.
[01:06:40]  Hey, delete these accounts.
[01:06:42]  Hey, push this down.
[01:06:43]  And for the most part, they were all complying.
[01:06:45]  And what that means is there was never a time until Elon bought X that we ever had free speech on any of our social platforms.
[01:06:56]  Of any size, right?
[01:06:58]  Except for like maybe some of Reddit at some time, but Reddit is highly controlled now.
[01:07:02]  And 4chan, which is like, you know, the dumpster behind Wednesdays.
[01:07:06]  It's cool, but like, whatever.
[01:07:08]  So, I think that people had thought that we were operating in this like, oh, everyone can share their own stuff now.
[01:07:13]  And like, we have this flow of information.
[01:07:14]  But no one realized that free speech is not the same as everyone has a social media account and can post, but there's a lot of censorship and all this other stuff going on.
[01:07:24]  And so the Twitter files exposed that A, we had been living in this fake sort of version of Web 3.0 or Web 2.0, I guess.
[01:07:34]  And now.
[01:07:35]  It's really interesting to analyze how much the news landscape has changed just since we've had one big social platform where there's at least like mostly free speech.
[01:07:45]  And there's obviously still some censorship on X, and it's kind of controversial.
[01:07:49]  But what has happened is that X is so fast at reporting information.
[01:07:55]  And I realized this on producing my YouTube show that I was trying to do like kind of weekly, like what's happening this week, mixed with more evergreen, like big picture stuff that relates to it.
[01:08:07]  And I was realizing that more and more, normally my thing is to look up articles and to look up like sources and news and shit.
[01:08:14]  And I was realizing that like actually X is a better source for basically everything now because all those articles are posted to X.
[01:08:21]  But beyond that, like reports and stuff is breaking on X like hours, days even before it gets published in the news.
[01:08:28]  And so the news is starting to source X. Everyone is starting to source X.
[01:08:32]  And so that's one difference where now the information is coming up out of the collective group, like the The collective consciousness, so to speak, our collective hive mind.
[01:08:44]  That's where the reporting is coming out of now.
[01:08:46]  That's the fastest.
[01:08:47]  And now, like, reporters are all there and they're all being sourced from there.
[01:08:50]  But there's this other piece where now the things that we weren't allowed to talk about that we didn't even realize we weren't allowed to talk about like, the most obvious one is Israel and Gaza and AIPAC and just all that other, like, this whole hornet's nest of stuff.
[01:09:05]  Yeah.
[01:09:06]  Is suddenly like, holy shit, no one even realized how much we weren't allowed to talk about any of that because everyone that would talk about it.
[01:09:14]  Would get deplatformed and debanked and like shadow banned to hell and like accused of weird shit and like sent to an insane asylum or whatever it was, like depending on who you're looking at.
[01:09:24]  So it's changed the sort of like where information comes from, but it's also done this crazy thing where it's changed our perception of what even like free speech means.
[01:09:34]  Because free speech is one thing when we're here in a room having a conversation between the two of us, and that's vitally important, obviously.
[01:09:41]  But free speech is a whole different thing when it's the public town square connected like millions of people all together.
[01:09:46]  Right.
[01:09:46]  That's like a Different beast that even the founding fathers could have never anticipated the type of power that that has.
[01:09:53]  And so, to get back to your original question, yeah, the intelligence agencies, like it is their, it is actually the CIA's primary official job to control those narratives.
[01:10:03]  Because think about it their job is to protect our country, right?
[01:10:07]  And if you wanted to overthrow America, you would not do it with a military attack.
[01:10:13]  That would be the dumbest thing you could ever do.
[01:10:15]  Like, we're the most powerful military in the world.
[01:10:16]  You would subvert America.
[01:10:18]  And the most obvious ways to subvert America are culturally.
[01:10:21]  Intellectually, like genetically, slash reproductively.
[01:10:25]  Like, there's all these other ways to subvert America.
[01:10:27]  And they, in many ways, all rely on subverting our information flow.
[01:10:31]  And so the CIA's mandate is to protect us from that.
[01:10:35]  And the only way you protect our free speech information flow, because the nature of free speech is that we can all say whatever we want, we can share whatever we want.
[01:10:42]  So that means that China can share whatever they want into there as long as they just kind of blend right in.
[01:10:46]  Same with Russia, same with Iran, same with Israel.
[01:10:49]  And so the only way to protect our free speech is to control that whole space.
[01:10:53]  Theoretically, which is not possible.
[01:10:55]  But, like, if Russia could overthrow us by feeding us the narrative that communism is great, then the only way to counter that is to feed us the narrative that capitalism is great in a simplified way, right?
[01:11:05]  And so, if Israel's narrative of like Palestinians are terrorists and Israel is always right is being fed in from this side, the only way to counter this like upswell, like, you know what I mean?
[01:11:15]  Is like now any narrative that comes in that could be a threat to whoever's in power, whoever wants whatever, and the CIA technically is like, you know, protecting America.
[01:11:24]  Yeah.
[01:11:24]  So, whatever threat could come into that.
[01:11:26]  Their job is to counter that threat, but the only way to counter it is to feed a narrative in, right?
[01:11:31]  Yeah, no, I see that.
[01:11:32]  It's their official job.
[01:11:34]  So, you think it's just like this shadow war between intelligence going on behind the scenes of these social media companies?
[01:11:40]  Yeah, I wonder how much.
[01:11:41]  I had this guy on here a couple weeks ago, John Kiriakou, who was a whistleblower against the torture program for the CIA.
[01:11:48]  He was like a he worked for the CIA for like 20 something years, and then they eventually put him in prison for blowing the whistle on the torture stuff.
[01:11:54]  Classic.
[01:11:54]  And he, um, he dealt with the Mossad a lot during his career, and he.
[01:12:01]  Told me that at one point he learned that Israel or the Mossad has like over 200.
[01:12:10]  There's a difference when you have an agent in a country, right?
[01:12:14]  Like we have CIA, it's in Israel, and Israel has Mossad that's here.
[01:12:17]  But there's a difference between declared and undeclared officers.
[01:12:20]  Yeah.
[01:12:20]  He said they have over 200 undeclared officers in the U.S.
[01:12:25]  Oh, I bet it's so why infinitely more than that.

=== Israeli Art Students and Mossad (08:42) ===

[01:12:28]  This was like in the 90s.
[01:12:29]  Yeah.
[01:12:30]  So, huge rabbit hole here, but Israel.
[01:12:35]  Has always had an insane amount of spies in the US and has been subverting the US ever since they were founded.
[01:12:41]  And that's everything from like they literally stole nuclear weapons from us and built a secret nuclear facility that John F. Kennedy was trying to audit and shut down, by the way.
[01:12:52]  They did that with like some of the most famous technological leaks of all time, all the way up to like Jonathan Pollard, the Promise software scandal, right up to 9 11.
[01:13:01]  A lot of people don't know that before 9 11, there's this whole document called the Israeli art students' DEA files.
[01:13:07]  You ever heard about those?
[01:13:09]  So, you can find them on the internet.
[01:13:11]  If you search things like DEA files Israeli art students.
[01:13:16]  Can you look that up, Steve?
[01:13:17]  You can probably find it.
[01:13:18]  And it's a report written by the DEA.
[01:13:20]  And what was happening is in 2000 and 2001, there is like all these government agencies were reporting.
[01:13:27]  Yeah, all those are it.
[01:13:29]  And what they were doing is they, at first, no one realized what was happening because there were these people walking into the DEA office in like whatever sit in Orlando, Florida.
[01:13:39]  Yeah.
[01:13:39]  And they were saying, like, hi, I'm an art student from Israel representing this university, and I would like to sell you some art.
[01:13:44]  Are you interested in looking at any art?
[01:13:45]  Is there anyone I can show this art to?
[01:13:47]  It's like, why the f are you in the DEA's office, like, or any other government building?
[01:13:51]  Like, they were just going to all these government buildings posing as Israeli art students trying to sell art.
[01:13:56]  And as they started to report it up the chain, the chain realized that this was happening all across America.
[01:14:01]  It says Tampa.
[01:14:02]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:14:03]  All across America.
[01:14:04]  DEA Tampa has revealed much information relating to these individuals.
[01:14:07]  DEA agents in Tampa district office questioned the team leader of a group of nine individuals at length.
[01:14:12]  The team leader stated that the purchases.
[01:14:14]  That stated he purchases the paintings for $8 to $10 from an individual in Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Florida area.
[01:14:21]  What the fuck?
[01:14:21]  That's all the cover story, though.
[01:14:22]  That's all just made up bullshit.
[01:14:24]  And so the thing about this document is it's actually super lengthy and it's really hard to get to the bottom of what it is if you don't read the whole thing.
[01:14:30]  But what it is, is it's all across America in 2000 and 2001.
[01:14:35]  Israel was running, the Mossad was running a massive surveillance campaign on all of our government buildings.
[01:14:40]  And this was their cover, was Israeli art students.
[01:14:42]  And they were using it to gain access to the buildings and then to surveil the buildings to write down blueprints.
[01:14:47]  A lot of these people were actually ex-Israeli intelligence that had backgrounds in explosive experts, in surveillance technology, and wiring.
[01:14:56]  Just things that go into that building.
[01:14:58]  Were they wiring these paintings and trying to sell them to us?
[01:15:01]  I don't think so.
[01:15:01]  No.
[01:15:02]  Maybe.
[01:15:02]  It's hard to say.
[01:15:03]  We don't know entirely because a lot of them, once they started to get caught, they would change their stories around a lot.
[01:15:08]  Some of them got stopped and interviewed a lot, but they never really could act on it a whole lot.
[01:15:12]  Oh, Wikispooks is a whole rabbit hole.
[01:15:14]  Wikispooks.
[01:15:14]  Do you know about Wikispooks?
[01:15:16]  Oh, you're going to love it, dude.
[01:15:17]  Wikispooks is Wikipedia for.
[01:15:20]  Tin foil hat conspiracy theorist, and it is the coolest resource.
[01:15:24]  It's a link just like you would think.
[01:15:26]  The best one to start on is 9 11 Wiki Spooks because it's the most like complete.
[01:15:31]  It's not clicked on that, it doesn't have everything, and it's 9 11 Israel did it.
[01:15:36]  Yeah, so you have to obviously double check everything that's on Wiki Spooks thoroughly.
[01:15:41]  No, but it is a really fun resource to get you going because it's like nothing's held back, it's all there and it's all linked, and it's not all true, but it is actually a really cool one.
[01:15:51]  It's just so much fun.
[01:15:51]  But it's the opposite of Wikipedia, basically.
[01:15:55]  Exactly, because Wikipedia is all controlled.
[01:15:57]  They hold back all the fun stuff.
[01:15:58]  Where if you're on Wikispooks, you're like, hold on, you're going the other direction now.
[01:16:01]  You're like, hold on, you guys are going way too far with this.
[01:16:04]  And you wind up somewhere in the middle.
[01:16:05]  But, anyways, the Israeli art students is just an obvious example of massive Mossad spying on the U.S.
[01:16:11]  And it's like the Mossad has this other unique angle that is kind of hard to talk about because the CIA has to recruit members.
[01:16:23]  They have to recruit and then send you out.
[01:16:25]  Or at the very best, you've got this tech company and they can approach you and be like, yo, you want to work together for whatever reason.
[01:16:31]  But you have to have an incentive that'll make a person want to work with the CIA.
[01:16:34]  And then you also have to worry if you're going up to this Russian businessman and trying to get him to work for the CIA, you have to also worry that he's actually going to play you and actually be working for KGB or something like that.
[01:16:43]  There's all these complicated things you have to consider if you're going to run intelligence ops.
[01:16:48]  But Mossad has this other angle where they represent the Jewish state.
[01:16:53]  And they represent the only hope for the Jewish people, like by sort of the Israeli narrative, right?
[01:16:58]  And so Jews all around the world have this inherent, like, trained religious incentive to support Israel.
[01:17:05]  And so, and so this is, it's a difficult thing to talk about because it sounds, it's easy for it to sound like you're saying all Jews are in on some global conspiracy, which is not what I'm saying.
[01:17:15]  What I'm saying, yeah.
[01:17:16]  Jews.
[01:17:17]  It's the Jews.
[01:17:19]  What I'm saying is that Jews are inherently incentivized to help Israel out, unless you don't support Israel.
[01:17:24]  And there are lots of Jews that don't support Israel.
[01:17:25]  There are lots of Israel who don't support Israel.
[01:17:27]  Badass guys, you're saving the world.
[01:17:28]  I appreciate it.
[01:17:29]  Yeah.
[01:17:30]  Stand up for those guys.
[01:17:30]  They need our support.
[01:17:31]  But that's just my bias.
[01:17:33]  There's a huge difference between people that are Jewish and Netanyahu and his war hawks.
[01:17:38]  Yeah, Zionists and all that.
[01:17:40]  But all you need to do is find, you know, one of them, like Leslie Wexner, like, you know, Leon Black, like whatever.
[01:17:47]  And so not all Zionists even are Jewish, but they have this pool of Zionists around the world that when the Mossad approaches a Zionist, there is way more incentive for that person to work with Mossad than if.
[01:17:58]  CIA was approaching some random person.
[01:18:00]  And because of the nature of Judaism, Judaism is dispersed across countries and cultures.
[01:18:05]  Judaism is not local to a region.
[01:18:07]  It's not local to a country.
[01:18:09]  Judaism is already decentralized.
[01:18:12]  And so the Mossad has this angle that leads to the like, notice how many people are Jewish, which is like, yeah, that is kind of racist, but like there is an angle where you have to consider it because the mafia is all run by Italians for a reason, right?
[01:18:28]  Organized crime has always been.
[01:18:31]  Organized around blood because blood is the strongest tie that binds.
[01:18:34]  Blood is the number one thing you can trust.
[01:18:37]  And if you're going to run organized crime or an intelligence agency, you damn well better be able to trust everybody.
[01:18:42]  Because if one guy gets caught and he rats you out, you're fucked.
[01:18:46]  And when someone gets caught, they're very incentivized to rat you out because they could be looking at life in prison or a sweetheart deal where they disappear on an island and they're totally fine.
[01:18:54]  They just have to rat you out.
[01:18:55]  So you need this incentive to keep everyone together.
[01:18:59]  And that's why organized crime has always been organized around races and religions because that's the best you can get.
[01:19:05]  And it works really well.
[01:19:06]  And historically in America, the two most powerful were the mafia, Italian, and the mob, Jewish.
[01:19:12]  And so when you're like, Investigating the Italian mafia, and you walk into a business and everyone in there is Italian, is it racist to be like, okay, this might be a mafia establishment, right?
[01:19:24]  And so, in the exact same way, when you're investigating Jeffrey Epstein and you're like, okay, every single person in this network is Jewish, and he's like clearly working with Ehud Barak, the ex prime minister of Israel, and he's clearly like Les Wexner is one of the most influential, like globalist Zionist Jews in the world, that and like everything about Jeffrey Epstein's network is Jewish through and through and through and through and through.
[01:19:47]  That's part of why we know he was Mossad.
[01:19:49]  But then you start to think about so, how did that network get built?
[01:19:53]  And when you research it, like for example, if you read Whitney Webb's book, you realize that a lot of times that is actually just someone approaching someone and being like, hey, both of our interests are aligned around Israel.
[01:20:04]  Let's work together and found the mega corporation, or let's work together and found the Wexner Heritage Foundation, or whatever.
[01:20:10]  And that will promote global Judaism and the policies of Israel.
[01:20:15]  But shoehorned into a lot of those things are these other sort of like Things that look a lot like Mossad operations and tactics.
[01:20:23]  And the mega group is a really good example of one where, like, ostensibly, it's just a bunch of very wealthy Jewish billionaires working together to, like, for the betterment of Israel.
[01:20:35]  But all of them are, like, tied to organized crime, like Leslie Wexner, Jeffrey Epstein, Louder family, you name it.
[01:20:44]  And so the Mossad has this weird other angle where they have this, like, cultural, racial, religious angle with which to approach people.
[01:20:53]  And again, remember, they don't necessarily have to approach someone and be like, hey, we want you to be a spy, or hey, we want you to subvert your country on behalf of Israel.
[01:21:01]  They might just approach someone and be like, hey, you love Israel, right?
[01:21:06]  We have this project and we could really use your support helping Israel.
[01:21:08]  They don't even have to identify themselves as Mossad.

=== War Terror Benefits Israel (02:29) ===

[01:21:10]  My buddy John, the ex CIA guy, was in here the other day and he was telling the story on how they tried to recruit him.
[01:21:15]  You mean John Perkins?
[01:21:16]  No, John Karyaku.
[01:21:17]  Oh, word for that.
[01:21:18]  The former CIA guy.
[01:21:19]  He's Greek.
[01:21:20]  His last name's Karyaku.
[01:21:21]  So he had a meeting with these guys.
[01:21:22]  They were talking with these Mossad guys in a building that was maybe.
[01:21:27]  You know, a mile away from Langley.
[01:21:31]  And after the meeting, the Mossad guy goes to John and goes, Kariyaku, you are Jewish?
[01:21:38]  Exactly.
[01:21:39]  And he goes, I am not recruitable.
[01:21:41]  How dare you try to recruit me a mile from Langley?
[01:21:44]  Bingo.
[01:21:44]  Because they knew, like, they know what's going on.
[01:21:46]  Like, you know, people in that industry know how that works.
[01:21:48]  That's how it's always worked.
[01:21:49]  Yeah.
[01:21:50]  Well, that's just the nature of the game.
[01:21:52]  It is.
[01:21:52]  It is.
[01:21:53]  And it makes that, it makes, look, that, I mean, everyone will tell you that the Mossad is much more capable than the CIA.
[01:22:00]  And they're much more efficient than the CIA because they have existential threats and they've been through a lot.
[01:22:07]  World War II.
[01:22:08]  We in America, we don't have that.
[01:22:10]  We kind of live in like a fantasy world.
[01:22:12]  Yeah, 100%.
[01:22:13]  Where there's really not one thing that unifies us all.
[01:22:16]  Not since communism, like not since the USSR failed and the Cold War fell apart.
[01:22:22]  And then we replaced it with the war on terror.
[01:22:23]  But my contention would be that we did not come up with the war on terror.
[01:22:31]  Israel came up with the war on terror.
[01:22:32]  Have you ever thought about that?
[01:22:33]  That kind of like angle there and the clean break report and 9 11 and just sort of the outcome of 9 11 benefited Israel in every imaginable way.
[01:22:42]  And it didn't benefit any of the nations where the actual terrorists were allegedly from.
[01:22:46]  It benefited a lot of people.
[01:22:48]  Yeah, it benefited a lot of rich people.
[01:22:49]  But it didn't just benefit Israel.
[01:22:50]  That's very true.
[01:22:51]  Of course they benefited.
[01:22:52]  100% true.
[01:22:52]  Of course they wanted us over there, right?
[01:22:54]  Yeah, they've always wanted those sort of like neighboring Arab and Islamic nations destabilized for many reasons.
[01:23:00]  And so, yeah, a lot of rich people in America benefited from the war on terror, but like.
[01:23:05]  Yeah, but like.
[01:23:06]  You and me, like, we don't benefit from thinking of all Arab people as terrorists.
[01:23:09]  But Israel very directly benefits from Americans collectively seeing Arab people as terrorists.
[01:23:15]  And there's no better example than that since October 7th, they have this sort of like jump on Arabs are, if Americans are predisposed to think that Arabs are terrorists, and then October 7th happens, think how much easier the, regardless of who's right and regardless of what side you're personally on, like, if we're all predisposed to see the Arab side as the terrorist side, then it's like, obviously, that's making it a lot easier for Israel to argue their case in an October 7th style of that.

=== Smoking Gun and CIA Assets (11:01) ===

[01:23:40]  Event.
[01:23:41]  So, yeah.
[01:23:43]  And it's not that, like, it's not, it's not just like, oh, Israel runs every, it's, you know, Israel is not even just one thing.
[01:23:48]  There's everyone in that government is their own people.
[01:23:51]  You know, there's a lot of evil people.
[01:23:52]  There's some good people.
[01:23:53]  Like, there's, who knows, you know, everything is complicated.
[01:23:55]  I think that people always want to reduce things to just like singular bad guys, singular evils, simple explanations.
[01:24:02]  Like, the world is so complex.
[01:24:04]  You can see patterns, you know, you can kind of see the shape of things.
[01:24:09]  Yeah.
[01:24:09]  The crazy thing is how much influence they have over the elections and over the presidential, the presidents.
[01:24:14]  You know, they give both.
[01:24:15]  President, so much money.
[01:24:16]  I think Donald Trump just got a hundred million from the Adelsons, right?
[01:24:20]  Yeah.
[01:24:20]  I mean, they're always play both sides, right?
[01:24:23]  And yeah, it's just hard to know.
[01:24:25]  It's hard to know what's real anymore, dude.
[01:24:27]  Like, it's you want to go down a crazy rabbit hole on that?
[01:24:29]  Like, Donald Trump, he's the one who was responsible for moving the embassy to Jerusalem, right?
[01:24:33]  So he is like very much in lockstep with Israel.
[01:24:38]  Yeah.
[01:24:38]  And I think the extreme, like the hardcore Trump crowd is actually, and this is like the hardcore Trump and then the Q crowd, they are on the like bandwagon of.
[01:24:47]  He's actually playing them.
[01:24:48]  Like, he's actually, like, kind of strongmaning them and he's, like, going along just enough, but he's actually not, like, well, historically, I mean, he's said things in the media, like, I don't know if he wants to make a deal.
[01:24:57]  There's one side I won't say who it is, but there's one side that definitely doesn't want to make a deal.
[01:25:00]  Yeah.
[01:25:01]  And I can see there's some parts where, like, his body language in some of his interactions with BB over the last year or two have made me be like, eh, that is, like, kind of dominant body language.
[01:25:10]  But at the same time, I think there's a lot of denial about how aligned he is with a lot of those interests and a lot of that money.
[01:25:18]  And has been for a long time in his life.
[01:25:20]  Well, what is he saying publicly about it right now?
[01:25:21]  He's basically, I mean, I thought also publicly right now, he's like the most pro Zionist Israel thing you could ever.
[01:25:27]  He's like talking like, we will deport pro Palestinian protesters.
[01:25:30]  Like, it's the most atrocious, from my perspective, it's the most atrocious.
[01:25:34]  Like, if you were a Trump supporter, so me personally, I would be a Kennedy supporter 100% if he was not super Zionist.
[01:25:44]  And that leads me to all these concerns about blackmail and all these other things.
[01:25:47]  Right.
[01:25:48]  And to support him is just to take votes away from Trump.
[01:25:51]  It is at that point.
[01:25:52]  Although, why hasn't he dropped out yet?
[01:25:53]  So, did you see actually just today, Shanahan on the Impact Theory podcast just announced that they are considering joining the Trump campaign?
[01:26:02]  It's a big break.
[01:26:03]  I can't believe this happened weeks ago.
[01:26:04]  Well, they've been considering it for a long time, but they just haven't been public about it.
[01:26:08]  I'm surprised they're actually talking about it now.
[01:26:10]  Okay, I guess the DNC has started.
[01:26:12]  I was expecting them to wait until after the DNC to see if the Democrats had another weird curveball coming so then they could throw the curveball.
[01:26:20]  I don't know.
[01:26:21]  My understanding is that.
[01:26:23]  That Bobby is considering going with Trump, and that Nicole is considering doing other things that I will let her talk about.
[01:26:32]  I don't know what she's necessarily said publicly.
[01:26:34]  I just saw some clips before I got in here.
[01:26:37]  But yeah, I think that a lot of people on Trump's side want to ignore the amount of Israeli money he takes and Israeli influence he has.
[01:26:48]  And that's always been their play to have as much money flowing into as many of those pockets as possible so you just control everyone.
[01:26:54]  No better example than Congress and AIPAC.
[01:26:57]  I actually went into the Senate, it's an easier one because there's only 100 senators.
[01:27:02]  And when you look at all 100 senators today, 93 of them took AIPAC money on the road to winning their seat.
[01:27:10]  And yeah, you were showing this on your Twitter.
[01:27:12]  You were showing like their website where it shows like this many votes won, this much money contributed.
[01:27:16]  Like they're bragging about it openly.
[01:27:18]  And even of, and a lot of people think it's like the more money they pay, the more influence that.
[01:27:23]  Not really.
[01:27:23]  It's like they just need to win the seat, right?
[01:27:25]  And so in an easy race, maybe they only need to contribute a little bit.
[01:27:28]  Maybe in a really hard race, like they need to put in millions and millions of dollars to overthrow, to defeat someone.
[01:27:34]  But then it turns out of those other seven, like three of them are actually Zionist.
[01:27:37]  Anyways, they just didn't need any help winning, so they didn't give them any money.
[01:27:40]  So it's like that's like our entire Congress is bought by APAC, which is just absurd.
[01:27:45]  And just another funny JFK coincidence is that JFK had literally sent the paperwork to APAC, well, the precursor to APAC, for them to register under FARA the month before he got shot.
[01:27:59]  And then the month after he gets shot, Israel sends back a letter that says, This is cool and all, but we don't think we qualify.
[01:28:06]  We're not going to sign, we're not going to register.
[01:28:10]  Sorry.
[01:28:11]  Yeah, I don't know if.
[01:28:12]  So, you think that AIPAC had something to do with Kennedy?
[01:28:15]  Or Israel had to do with Kennedy?
[01:28:16]  I think Israel certainly had a lot to do with Kennedy.
[01:28:19]  Really?
[01:28:19]  Yeah.
[01:28:20]  How so?
[01:28:21]  I don't think AIPAC.
[01:28:23]  No, not AIPAC.
[01:28:24]  AIPAC was powerful until the 80s.
[01:28:26]  Just the Zionists in general, just the Zionist cause.
[01:28:28]  Like, this is during the most important time in Israel's history.
[01:28:33]  Israel has just been founded, and they have just started stealing nuclear material.
[01:28:37]  They have just stolen nuclear material from the United States, from NUMEC.
[01:28:41]  And they are building nuclear bombs.
[01:28:43]  And from the Israeli perspective, they're a new state that was literally founded by organized crime, along with Rothschild banking money, along with a bunch of paramilitary groups that were later classified as terrorist groups because what they did was so atrocious.
[01:28:58]  That's how they founded it.
[01:28:59]  And so they were in this really precarious place where it was not a far stretch for things to turn on them and the international community to be like, this is so messed up, guys, you got to stop, or for like an Arab war to break out and them to lose.
[01:29:11]  And so their success was in no way guaranteed.
[01:29:13]  at that point.
[01:29:14]  And they had realized like probably from the very start that if we had nukes, our survival is pretty much guaranteed and we got to get nukes.
[01:29:23]  And so they, within the Zionist circles, they started talking about that.
[01:29:28]  We don't know for sure, but it seems as though they've been talking about that for quite some time.
[01:29:32]  And they started this new mech operation and they got nuclear material and started building the Domona nuclear facility out in the desert.
[01:29:39]  And Kennedy was extremely vocal about wanting to Go there and inspect it and shut down any nuclear program that they had.
[01:29:47]  Where was this?
[01:29:48]  In Demona.
[01:29:49]  It was in the deserts in Israel.
[01:29:51]  I don't, I mean, I don't, I'm certainly not Israel's geography guy.
[01:29:55]  But yeah, it's just kind of like middle of nowhere desert.
[01:29:59]  And it was funded largely by the Rothschilds along with this really famous Jewish Zionist actor, celebrity actually, that just had a lot of ties to organized crime in America.
[01:30:11]  So again, it was basically funded by the Rothschilds banking money, organized crime collectively raising a bunch of money in America.
[01:30:18]  And France actually did a deal with them that gave them like a bunch of the technology to build the reactors and stuff because France wanted something in Africa and Israel that's kind of complicated.
[01:30:29]  But so they had just essentially acquired the ability to build nukes and they were building nukes, and Kennedy was like trying to shut it down.
[01:30:35]  And that is essentially at that point in Israel's history, that is an existential threat to the entire existence of their state because not only would they lose their nukes if he had succeeded, but that then becomes condemnable, right?
[01:30:47]  Then you've just been caught stealing nuclear technology and doing secret nuclear proliferation.
[01:30:52]  So you don't just like go back to square one.
[01:30:54]  You then might actually, that might be an existential threat to your nation as well because then the international community could turn on you.
[01:31:02]  So that is.
[01:31:03]  Circumstantial, right?
[01:31:04]  That is just sort of like the motive.
[01:31:07]  But there's also a lot of Zionist ties to a lot of the people that sort of like the organized crime elements.
[01:31:13]  And I'm not saying it was all Israel by any means.
[01:31:16]  I'm just saying that there are fingerprints of Israel and there's a lot of motive and means.
[01:31:21]  And LBJ, who came in afterwards, was rather friendly with Israel.
[01:31:29]  I don't know if there's any smoking gun in any way.
[01:31:32]  And I think that I've seen people sort of like present the story as though they have a smoking gun.
[01:31:37]  And I'm not so sure.
[01:31:39]  I've not vetted that stuff for myself.
[01:31:41]  I don't know.
[01:31:42]  But I highly suspect that they had a hand to play because clearly it was more than one party.
[01:31:50]  It was at least some CIA assets involved, some kind of mafia, mob, organized crime assets involved.
[01:31:58]  LBJ was probably involved.
[01:32:03]  So, yeah, there's a lot that was going on behind the scenes and leading up.
[01:32:08]  To in the years and the months and weeks before the JFK thing.
[01:32:12]  And there was clearly, according to John Newman, a lot of coordination between CIA and FBI.
[01:32:20]  Not just because, well, one of the main reasons was because there was a two time communist defector on the route in Daily Plaza that had been a week before he was shot.
[01:32:33]  They took off the flash stop on his FBI file.
[01:32:37]  So there was a guy named Giesling, John Giesling, who was an FBI defector.
[01:32:41]  Agent who was in charge of tracking all of Oswald's activities in New Orleans.
[01:32:47]  And there was this thing called a flash stop on his file.
[01:32:50]  So, meaning that essentially, when this thing's on your file and there's a president speaking in public and you're anywhere near that, that's like he equates it to being a flea at a Lysol convention.
[01:33:02]  He's like, there's no way you're going to be there.
[01:33:06]  And a week before, the FBI removes the flash stop from his file.
[01:33:12]  And so.
[01:33:15]  And then when it comes to the CIA, there was another lady that he actually interviewed, which I think is probably the biggest smoking gun the CIA was involved with.
[01:33:23]  This lady named Jane Roman, who was a CIA officer, and she was a liaison to the Mexico City desk when he was in Mexico City.
[01:33:33]  And Mexico City called up CIA, like, yo, there's this guy who's trying to defect.
[01:33:38]  What's the deal with this guy or whatever?
[01:33:40]  And they were like, oh, we don't know.
[01:33:44]  We don't have any new information on him since '62.
[01:33:48]  In 62, he was still in the Soviet Union.
[01:33:52]  And Jane Roman, who was the CIA officer who signed off on this thing, saying, We didn't know anything about 62, she also signed off on another document claiming that there was a flash stop on him two weeks before he was shot.
[01:34:03]  So when John went and met up with her, he's like, Jane, you have some fucking explaining to do here.
[01:34:09]  And she says, She smiled at him.
[01:34:11]  This was like right before she died.
[01:34:13]  She goes, it's indicative of something that was being held very close to the belt about Oswald that was only on a need to know basis.
[01:34:22]  So, if the Mossad or if Israel was somehow involved in this, they would have had to have been working directly with the FBI and the CIA and the military, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who didn't want Kennedy there because they wanted a nuclear apocalypse.
[01:34:35]  They wanted to nuke China and Russia.
[01:34:37]  And Kennedy in 61 was like, no, you guys aren't doing this.
[01:34:39]  And then he started talking to him behind the scenes.

=== Hoover Cross Lansky Meyer (15:40) ===

[01:34:42]  Well, in some ways, Mossad has been working with CIA from the start.
[01:34:45]  Like, Angleton has been like, They tied that shit together early on.
[01:34:49]  But to clarify, I'm not saying like Mossad assets were necessarily on the ground in any way that day.
[01:34:54]  What I'm saying is that Israeli interests were heavily aligned with the operation.
[01:35:00]  And there's a lot of evidence that they used some mafia mob assets in the operation.
[01:35:05]  And mafia and mob at that point were basically all one thing.
[01:35:08]  Like Jacob Rubenstein, the mob basically took over the mafia long before that.
[01:35:15]  Like Meyer Lansky is famous for creating the National Crime Syndicate, Murder Inc. Evolved out of that.
[01:35:21]  And that was when the mob and the mafia basically decided, like, all right, we should probably work together.
[01:35:25]  It'll be better, right?
[01:35:26]  So it's now the Jewish mob and the Italian mafia.
[01:35:29]  And certainly there was still a lot of Italian power bases in there and they controlled a lot of that.
[01:35:35]  But like the way I kind of look at it in the short form is one of them got a country, like one of them literally founded a country, Israel, and the other one is sort of like relegated to obscurity now and Hollywood movies.
[01:35:49]  And you know, they're active in Sicily.
[01:35:51]  And I mean, they're still active in the United States too.
[01:35:53]  But the mob, Took over an immense amount of power there.
[01:35:56]  And I think that we all call them the mafia all the time.
[01:35:59]  And we think of them as like the Italian mob mafia.
[01:36:01]  But like the Jewish mobsters had a lot of power.
[01:36:03]  And Jacob Rubenstein was a Jewish mob asset.
[01:36:05]  To be completely honest, I had no idea the difference between the mob and the mafia.
[01:36:09]  Dude, this is, it's such a wild rabbit hole because no one does.
[01:36:12]  Yeah.
[01:36:12]  Think about how many movies you've ever seen about Jewish mobsters.
[01:36:18]  But we've seen hundreds of movies about the mafia.
[01:36:20]  Italians.
[01:36:21]  Yeah.
[01:36:21]  About all of them.
[01:36:23]  All about the Italian mafia and a few about the Irish mafias.
[01:36:25]  Right, right.
[01:36:26]  And then you realize that, and this is where it's like, I'm not saying all Jewish people are in on some fucking conspiracy.
[01:36:32]  I'm just saying that, like, there are natural incentive structures out there.
[01:36:37]  And it only takes a few people to kind of, like, roll with some incentive structures.
[01:36:40]  And Hollywood was very literally founded by a bunch of Jewish film producers that were being ostracized from the New York film spaces.
[01:36:48]  Because at the time, back in, like, the 1900s, the center of film was in New York.
[01:36:52]  And New York, and they were all like, no, Jews can't fucking work here.
[01:36:55]  We don't want you here.
[01:36:56]  Like, go away.
[01:36:57]  And so all these Jewish film producers that wanted to make movies, they were like, well, Okay, we'll just go found our own place.
[01:37:02]  And they moved to California and founded Hollywood.
[01:37:04]  And that's all, it's like all over Wikipedia.
[01:37:07]  It's not secret history.
[01:37:08]  That's not in any way controversial.
[01:37:10]  LA to this day has the highest percentage of Jewish population of anywhere in the United States because it was the safe haven all of a sudden for Jewish people because Hollywood was founded by them.
[01:37:20]  And so they naturally, like, they have always been a major presence in Hollywood.
[01:37:24]  And so it could just be a coincidence, but it's like glaringly obvious when you think about how many movies have been made about the Jewish mob and how many have been made about the Italian mafia.
[01:37:34]  And most people don't realize that the Jewish mob had at least as much power as the mafia, if not more.
[01:37:39]  Like Meyer Lansky is the one that is famous for having photos of J. Edgar Hoover going fellatio on his boy.
[01:37:45]  And so Meyer Lansky was the one that allegedly had control over the FBI to keep the FBI on a leash during that whole like three decade time period when organized crime went from like a couple of street gangs to like an international crime syndicate that's running liquor everywhere and then that turns into drugs and prostitution, everything else.
[01:38:04]  They held so much power throughout that.
[01:38:07]  And then they literally, like organized crime in America, the Jewish mob, they just sold a whole bunch of extra weapons and ammunitions and everything from World War II to all the people that were busy founding Israel.
[01:38:20]  So, like, the organized crime, the Jewish mob in America was absolutely instrumental to the founding of Israel because you can't found a country through war if you don't have weapons, right?
[01:38:29]  The Haganah and Ergen and the Stern Gang were all armed by the Jewish mob.
[01:38:35]  So, How much influence do you think, how much dirt do you think they got on Trump?
[01:38:40]  Do you think they had any blackmail on him?
[01:38:41]  Oh, it's such a good question.
[01:38:43]  Because he's the one guy, like, you can, like, there's a lot of names in the book, right?
[01:38:47]  He's the one guy who has fucking footage dancing around with him and a bunch of hot girls at Mar a Lago.
[01:38:54]  Yeah, but that's all they've got.
[01:38:56]  So here, the way I look at it is kind of like.
[01:38:58]  No one else has got that good, that kind of footage with Epstein, like hanging out with him, partying with him.
[01:39:02]  Exactly.
[01:39:03]  But a lot of other people have footage of them doing things with kids.
[01:39:07]  But no one's seen that shit.
[01:39:08]  Exactly.
[01:39:09]  And the amount of scrutiny that Trump has come under.
[01:39:12]  Unless, like, the whole DNC, like, there's a lot of evidence that, well, how should I phrase that?
[01:39:20]  I think we should start at the beginning, actually, at Trump's beginning, because a lot of people don't know Trump's history.
[01:39:24]  Trump was mentored by Roy Cohn, who was instrumental in that blackmail campaign we were just talking about with Meyer Lansky and the mob blackmailing J. Edgar Hoover way back in the 40s and 50s.
[01:39:35]  Roy Cohn was a big part of the McCarthy era, and he was this lawyer that was famous for being a big part of the Red Scare and everything.
[01:39:44]  He was this lawyer back then.
[01:39:46]  And he was like good friends with all these different people, Hoover included.
[01:39:50]  And he was involved in the blue suite parties where J. Edgar Hoover was famous for allegedly like cross dressing.
[01:39:55]  And they had these like gay orgies where everyone would cross dress in this mansion, in this rather, this suite at the Plaza Hotel that was full of cameras.
[01:40:02]  That's how J. Edgar Hoover amassed what was allegedly one of the largest blackmail collections in all of history at the time, anyways.
[01:40:10]  And so Roy Cohn was there at the founding of this video blackmail era when Meyer Lansky and the mob.
[01:40:17]  And Rosenstein were all pioneering it and blackmailing Hoover, the director of the FBI.
[01:40:22]  Roy Cohn went on to do a lot of shady stuff, but among them was to be one of Trump's most close mentors when Trump was young, coming up.
[01:40:31]  And so Trump was friends with Epstein.
[01:40:34]  He was like mentored by Roy Cohn.
[01:40:38]  He swam in all those powerful circles.
[01:40:41]  And then he later, so the Plaza Hotel, this hotel where they had these blue suite parties, where they had this whole suite wired up with cameras designed to blackmail people, Trump later.
[01:40:50]  Overextended himself financially to buy that hotel specifically, which is kind of weird, right?
[01:40:56]  He also later bought the boat of Anand Khashoggi, the weapons smuggler that we were talking about earlier, right?
[01:41:02]  And that boat was allegedly that was famous for people who said that that boat was wired up with cameras because Anand Khashoggi was a huge proponent of, he was very fond of sexual blackmail.
[01:41:12]  And he would ply his clients by bidding them onto his boat and then just giving them girls and drugs and whatever they wanted, like you're the star, you get whatever you want.
[01:41:20]  That was how he would like close deals.
[01:41:22]  But Trump was going to like his birthday parties and shit on the boat.
[01:41:24]  Bingo.
[01:41:24]  So, so Trump has all the he has all the makings of someone that understands that game.
[01:41:30]  And then I cross reference that with the fact that Trump does not drink or do drugs and he never has.
[01:41:35]  Right.
[01:41:36]  And he from an early age, he was friends with the guys that were blackmailing people.
[01:41:41]  So I actually think it's far more likely that Trump played the game from their side.
[01:41:47]  He does love pussy.
[01:41:48]  He does.
[01:41:48]  But when you look at his taste, I mean, he said some weird shit about young girls before.
[01:41:52]  Like, so that gives me pause.
[01:41:53]  But like, His wife Melania is not like, it's not like he's remarrying like 20 year olds all the time, like some people.
[01:42:01]  And so, I actually think that based upon how much scrutiny he's been under and how much it's like they tried to shoot him.
[01:42:07]  They like investigated him over this made up Russia bullshit, this like PP tape that didn't really, like maybe a girl on him.
[01:42:13]  I don't know.
[01:42:14]  Like that, it's hard for me to believe that no blackmail material from Epstein ever came out during all that.
[01:42:20]  Like they have all of Epstein's blackmail material.
[01:42:22]  They've got tapes of Bill Clinton doing Lord knows what with all, like the president of the United States, Bill Clinton, was one of the most famous clients.
[01:42:30]  And he was like the client for a long time.
[01:42:32]  He was like, there are.
[01:42:34]  Indications and allegations that, like, in some ways, the entire operation may have been spun up specifically to target Bill Clinton.
[01:42:40]  And then it's just like, let's do this a lot more, too.
[01:42:44]  But I lean towards, I don't know, and it could be either way, and maybe Trump is blackmailed, but it almost seems more likely that he was a blackmailer than that he was a blackmail e.
[01:42:54]  As in, he bought the hotel and the boat where they were recording blackmail, and he's trained by the blackmailers, and he's always been kind of his own guy.
[01:43:05]  And he somehow had enough power to break into the political sphere and totally their shit up in 2016 in a way that, like, no one has ever been able to do.
[01:43:14]  Right.
[01:43:15]  That's weird.
[01:43:16]  Yeah.
[01:43:16]  And in a world where everyone is, like, kind of controlled in all these various ways through money and blackmail and favors and whatever it is, it's weird that he's able to just break in and just totally ruin that whole scheme.
[01:43:27]  And to me, that indicates that he's at least probably not blackmailed.
[01:43:32]  But maybe he even has some blackmail on some people.
[01:43:34]  That would start to explain what we see in terms of how he just does his own thing in some ways and, like, Kind of doesn't give a about how things have always been done.
[01:43:42]  Well, then why would he be bowing to Israel?
[01:43:44]  Well, that's a good question.
[01:43:45]  Maybe he has some level of like not necessarily like direct allegiance and alliance, but you know, when you, you know, how like when you kind of grow up in the same industry as people, even though you sort of disagree on some things over time and you've had some like spats in the past, you still kind of have this respect for them.
[01:44:02]  You still kind of like, you know, we kind of work together, we've been through a lot.
[01:44:05]  And like, I got my interest and you've got yours.
[01:44:07]  And to a certain point, I'll work with you, but at a certain point, like, That's a line, and I won't cross that.
[01:44:12]  That's just how humans work, right?
[01:44:13]  So, I could see it being something like that.
[01:44:16]  And I'm not saying I know that.
[01:44:17]  I'm not saying, I'm not even saying I believe that for sure.
[01:44:20]  I'm just saying that right now, based upon my understanding, that seems more likely than him being blackmailed.
[01:44:27]  Or maybe it's a bit of both, right?
[01:44:28]  Because a lot of blackmailers have been blackmailed and have blackmail on other people.
[01:44:33]  Because in a certain way, that's just inherent to the game, right?
[01:44:37]  Yeah.
[01:44:37]  Like deterrence.
[01:44:38]  Yeah.
[01:44:39]  And usually it's because you've also been doing illegal shit together, and he's Clearly, Trump has clearly done some illegal shit with lots of people over his years in various forms.
[01:44:47]  Although I would argue that maybe falsifying business records was not really an important one, but who knows?
[01:44:54]  Didn't Clinton's Wikipedia just get scrubbed?
[01:44:56]  Yeah, like literally last month.
[01:44:58]  Do you see what I made about that?
[01:44:59]  Yeah.
[01:44:59]  Yeah.
[01:44:59]  So there's a little bit more to it, but it was so weird to.
[01:45:03]  I was filming a documentary about this whole thing, and then I pull up Bill Clinton's Wikipedia page because I'm trying to figure out how many times he flew on the plane.
[01:45:14]  Or visited the island, and the entire, every mention of Jeffrey Epstein is suddenly gone from his Wikipedia page.
[01:45:20]  So I went to the Wayback Machine, which is like it archives websites, and you know this, but they might not.
[01:45:26]  And so it archives the history of websites, and I start going backwards in time.
[01:45:30]  And it turns out that just like a month or like last month, suddenly all like 30 something references to Jeffrey Epstein got taken off.
[01:45:40]  And what actually wound up happening is I went and looked up the editor that had edited the page, and what they did Oh, you can see the editor.
[01:45:45]  Yeah, so Wikipedia is interesting because you can actually track every edit that's ever been made and you can track who edited it and then you can look at what other edits they've done.
[01:45:52]  And it was a really interesting dig.
[01:45:54]  He's like, and that's where it's like, I found a super editor where every day, all day, all he's doing is editing.
[01:45:59]  That's like, and it's all on these certain pages, like a bunch on Kale Starner, however you pronounce the PM of the British guy, a bunch on, like you did some on Diddy's page.
[01:46:09]  And most of them are kind of like unimportant, just kind of like.
[01:46:13]  But the Bill Clinton one, what they did is they made a separate page called Bill Clinton's connections to Jeffrey Epstein or whatever.
[01:46:22]  And they moved all of the references over onto that page.
[01:46:25]  So it's like, look, we didn't delete it.
[01:46:27]  We just moved it over.
[01:46:28]  We separated it because it's more organized.
[01:46:30]  It's better, right?
[01:46:30]  But then it's like, okay, so why the f isn't there a link to that page on Bill Clinton's page?
[01:46:36]  Because, like, let's rewind for a second.
[01:46:38]  Like, let's hold the f phone because no one ever stops for enough time to realize that we, like, stop and think.
[01:46:45]  The United States of America's president from what, 1992 till 2000, that is eight years, the president of the United States of America was actively blackmailed, sexually blackmailed by a foreign nation, and their spy, Jeffrey Epstein, was.
[01:47:00]  Visiting the White House with women like 17 times or something officially.
[01:47:07]  And then he's flying to this island and probably kids on camera.
[01:47:11]  Like, sorry, you're going to have to do a lot of censoring here.
[01:47:14]  It's all good.
[01:47:14]  But, like, that's the president of the United States of America.
[01:47:19]  And he was overseeing some of the most important, like, peace talks.
[01:47:22]  And, like, the Oslo Accords were massively important.
[01:47:27]  And that was when Jonathan.
[01:47:27]  What?
[01:47:28]  The Oslo Accords.
[01:47:29]  That's, like, the most recent sort of, like, It was when Yasser Arafat and whoever was in, it might have been Bibi actually, whoever was in charge of Israel at the time, like peace talks to sort of determine the path forwards for the West Bank and Gaza and the settlements and the borders.
[01:47:44]  It's like that was a critical time for Israel's negotiations for what's going to happen going forwards.
[01:47:51]  Right.
[01:47:51]  That's the most famous photo, like, you know, the last 20 years in terms of that.
[01:47:55]  Right.
[01:47:56]  And Bill Clinton oversaw that.
[01:47:57]  Right.
[01:47:58]  I remember this.
[01:47:59]  And Monica Lewinsky.
[01:48:01]  You got me in so much trouble with this one.
[01:48:03]  Dude, I had my two CIA guys in here debating and I brought up the.
[01:48:07]  Monolithical Lewinsky conspiracy, and they were like, Jesus Christ, Danny, you've been watching too much internet.
[01:48:12]  You've been spending too much time on X with Ian Carroll.
[01:48:15]  All I'm saying is that this guy is actively blackmailed by an Israeli sexual blackmail ring.
[01:48:23]  And suddenly we have a leak that, and so the leak was that this Jewish woman has this sexual relationship with him.
[01:48:34]  But then it turns out that actually there were allegations, I forget the exact.
[01:48:38]  Words.
[01:48:39]  Just because she was Jewish doesn't mean she was a massage.
[01:48:41]  It certainly does not.
[01:48:42]  It's just a coincidence that as he's like, so imagine if you are Jeffrey Epstein, right?
[01:48:49]  Your goal is to have all this information hanging over Bill Clinton's head so you can leverage him.
[01:48:53]  That's the whole point of a sexual blackmail operation.
[01:48:56]  And so if he's doing something that you don't like, or if something important is coming up and he's not going the way you want, how do you control it?
[01:49:04]  You either think it through.
[01:49:06]  You have to leak something, you have to show him that you mean business, right?
[01:49:10]  Because otherwise, your whole blackmail operation means nothing.
[01:49:13]  If you don't actually force him to do what you wanted to do when he's not going to do what you wanted to do, you aren't blackmailing him.
[01:49:19]  You have no power over him.
[01:49:20]  And so, if Bill Clinton is not going the way you want with the Oslo Accords or whatever it is, what you would see, what we would see as the public, is we would see a partial release of something that is partial sexual blackmail, like the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
[01:49:33]  That is exactly the kind of thing.
[01:49:34]  Because it's not a career ending thing.
[01:49:36]  It's not the kind of thing that is going to totally blow the whole presidency up.
[01:49:40]  But it's enough to be like, because he knows what else they have, right?
[01:49:44]  And it turns out that there was like, 30 hours of phone sex tapes that allegedly, like, someone had that didn't get released or something.
[01:49:53]  With him and Monica.
[01:49:54]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:49:55]  And so there was, so essentially, there's like this woman just happens to have all this like recorded, and there's this whole scandal.
[01:50:02]  And Whitney Webb goes into it in her book in a really good way.
[01:50:04]  But basically, like, then it turned out that, like, oh no, maybe someone had bugged the White House.
[01:50:10]  Like, Jeffrey, and so it's like, wait, These things all overlap where, like, if Jeffrey Epstein was sexually blackmailing Bill Clinton, that's the exact kind of thing you would leak to sort of fire a warning shot over his bow.

=== Times of Israel Hunter Biden (03:58) ===

[01:50:23]  It's not so bad that it's going to end his career.
[01:50:26]  Is the idea that this has something to do with Pollard?
[01:50:29]  Well, Pollard was also during that time, they were trying to pressure Bill Clinton to pardon Jonathan Pollard.
[01:50:33]  Pardon Pollard, right?
[01:50:34]  And he ended up not doing it.
[01:50:37]  So you found something.
[01:50:38]  This is the Times of Israel.
[01:50:40]  Netanyahu said to have offered Lewinsky tapes for Pollard.
[01:50:43]  Bingo.
[01:50:44]  What is the Times of Israel?
[01:50:45]  Is that a legit website?
[01:50:46]  Yeah, it's literally a Zionist.
[01:50:49]  It's one of the best websites for me to reference.
[01:50:51]  Zoom in a little bit.
[01:50:52]  It's like a Zionist Jewish publication from Israel.
[01:50:54]  Go up.
[01:50:56]  New critical book on Clinton family claims that Israel tapped the White House phones, blackmailed the president with recordings.
[01:51:03]  Okay, scroll down.
[01:51:06]  Israel attempted to tapes former U.S. President Bill Clinton.
[01:51:08]  The steamy conversations with intern Monica Lewinsky to leverage the release of Jonathan Pollard, a new book on the Clinton family's political enterprises, has claimed.
[01:51:15]  In the book titled Clinton Inc.
[01:51:17]  Oh, God, is the author still alive?
[01:51:19]  Probably not.
[01:51:20]  The audacious rebuilding of a political machine.
[01:51:24]  Author Daniel Halper relies on.
[01:51:27]  On the record interviews with former officials, together with a close analysis of documents termed the Monica files, to paint a salacious and uncomplimentary picture of one of the most prominent political families in the U.S. Hundreds of pages of documents compiled as contingency on the use to use in the former intern if the former intern ever was involved in legal actions against Clinton.
[01:51:51]  Holy crap!
[01:51:52]  Why did I never hear?
[01:51:53]  Keep scrolling down, like go to the you know, why you never heard about it?
[01:51:56]  I can't believe this is in the Times of Israel.
[01:51:58]  Well, that's the thing.
[01:51:59]  Here's the thing.
[01:51:59]  Why would this be in the Times of Israel?
[01:52:00]  Because American media is so controlled because, like, so we can't talk about Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:52:06]  We can't talk about Israel.
[01:52:07]  We can't talk about any of that shit.
[01:52:08]  But Jewish media is not because Israel is busy bragging to their own citizens about how many Hamas terrorists they killed.
[01:52:15]  They're busy bragging to their citizens about how many Jewish politicians that we've got and how much influence they've got.
[01:52:20]  Like, the Times of Israel is great at reporting how much Jewish influence is in American politics.
[01:52:26]  And one of my favorite articles that I've ever found on there is them bragging about Hunter Biden's new wife.
[01:52:33]  It's very like.
[01:52:34]  On the Times of Israel.
[01:52:35]  Yeah.
[01:52:35]  So you can find it.
[01:52:36]  It's Times of Israel, Hunter Biden, New Wife Tattoo.
[01:52:40]  Where does the Times of Israel rank?
[01:52:42]  Like, if you were going to compare it to like a U.S. media.
[01:52:45]  I don't know if I'm necessarily informed enough to really say for sure, but it would be like a Washington Post or a New York Times or an NBC, a CNN.
[01:52:52]  Yeah.
[01:52:53]  It's like a mainstream journal.
[01:52:54]  It's like the mainstream publication over there, very much so.
[01:52:56]  It's like Harez, Times of Israel, Jerusalem Post, you know.
[01:53:00]  Okay.
[01:53:01]  The big ones.
[01:53:02]  Interesting.
[01:53:02]  So Times of Israel.
[01:53:04]  Go back to that article, Steve.
[01:53:05]  Yeah, feel free to go back.
[01:53:07]  I want to see the bottom of it.
[01:53:09]  Because that's what I'm saying it sounds like, oh, that's just like a conspiracy.
[01:53:12]  You're just drawing things together.
[01:53:13]  But no, that is exactly what we would see if there was a blackmail operation going on.
[01:53:19]  And we know what country was running the blackmail operation.
[01:53:23]  Copies of Halper's book were sent out in a PDF form to hundreds of reporters days before the book's official release was by a previously unknown individual.
[01:53:31]  And what Halper suggests was an effort to reduce the impact of the book's release.
[01:53:36]  Hmm.
[01:53:37]  Yeah.
[01:53:37]  Well, you know, I would argue that there, or rather, there is an argument to be made.
[01:53:41]  Go to the homepage of this website.
[01:53:42]  Israel publishing this kind of, and it's not like this is not the state of Israel.
[01:53:45]  This is a journalistic publication.
[01:53:47]  These are journalists.
[01:53:48]  But there's an argument to be made that bragging about how much influence Israel has over the US, even in that form, is positive in Israel.
[01:53:58]  Like in Israel, they like most of them believe they're not using enough force on civilians in Palestine.
[01:54:04]  Most of them believe that it is okay to Palestinian prisoners because of how evil Palestinians are.
[01:54:11]  Yeah, but this is like the most unpopular thing in Israel by far, right?
[01:54:14]  Like Netanyahu is like the most unpopular prime minister.
[01:54:18]  He was before October 7th.
[01:54:19]  Even more so now or what?
[01:54:20]  No, no, way less.
[01:54:21]  That like.

=== NATO Putin Trillion Dollar Lie (05:39) ===

[01:54:22]  That rallied the whole country together.
[01:54:24]  They were like about to have a civil war.
[01:54:26]  They were about to try to overthrow him before.
[01:54:29]  And then it was like, we are threatened.
[01:54:30]  And the existential nature of that, like, that is like ingrained in the Jewish identity.
[01:54:35]  And not for no reason.
[01:54:36]  Like, they have been through so much as a people.
[01:54:39]  And so the moment there's that threat, it's like, fuck, we are all unified.
[01:54:43]  And I mean, they're not necessarily all unified, but it really changed the dynamic.
[01:54:47]  And now he's got like a, like a, I mean, they didn't even hold elections.
[01:54:51]  Like, he's still, he's essentially a wartime president.
[01:54:53]  Trump never been a more.
[01:54:55]  Dangerous times since the Holocaust to be a Jew, to be Jewish in the US.
[01:55:00]  This is the Jewish time.
[01:55:02]  So it's like a time sect of Israel.
[01:55:04]  Yeah, it's a sect of this.
[01:55:05]  That's a great publication.
[01:55:06]  And they've got, and so it's a great one that I like to reference because it's easy to get smeared.
[01:55:12]  And now these days, I'm not even really scared of getting smeared anymore because we all are seeing how common the smear tactics are.
[01:55:18]  But like referencing it in their own words is really useful because they talk openly in these words, right?
[01:55:23]  That's crazy.
[01:55:26]  And now in, you know, everyone.
[01:55:29]  If you turn on Fox or anything, it's all like when we're counting down the minutes and hours until they're going to lob missiles back, Iran's going to lob missiles right back into Israel and it's going to be World War III.
[01:55:41]  And we need to start, you know, the U.S. needs to pony up and we need to start a war with Iran right now.
[01:55:47]  Yeah.
[01:55:47]  It blows my mind that we're actually sitting in a situation where like all of the, like my parents' generation, like the kind of boomer generation, the older Gen X generations, they were us during the Iraq war.
[01:56:00]  They were like the cogent 30 year old, 40 year old adults that understood the world.
[01:56:05]  And the smart ones, at least theoretically, saw through the Iraq war propaganda or were old enough that they could have and should have.
[01:56:12]  Right.
[01:56:13]  And even if they didn't, they are in a position where they should have learned from it by 2005, six, seven.
[01:56:19]  Like they should have realized, wow, you literally lied us into a war in the Middle East about fake WMDs that didn't exist.
[01:56:25]  All that was made up.
[01:56:26]  Like, and now we're about to get lied into World War III, essentially.
[01:56:33]  On a very similar sort of, and it's not the same at all, but like taken into it on a similar amount of like propaganda and sort of like they're a threat to everyone kind of it.
[01:56:44]  It's like, how is this even like?
[01:56:45]  It's interesting how Iran's playing it, playing their hair.
[01:56:49]  It is really interesting.
[01:56:50]  Like they're holding back.
[01:56:52]  I heard it, I heard a interesting theory on this somewhere.
[01:56:55]  I don't remember where, but someone had, uh, was basically explaining it to where the way that this whole geopolitical mess is organized, um, China.
[01:57:07]  And Russia are like becoming closer to Iran.
[01:57:11]  And China and Russia could be like, look, if you guys play it cool and don't start lobbing bombs and starting a war, we can really use you to make the West look like the unhinged maniacs.
[01:57:26]  I think that's where we're at.
[01:57:27]  I think like, and it's weird to say, but I think we're in a world where the Western nations, the like, call them the globalists, call them the Zionists, call them the cabal, whatever you want to call them, like the Illumina, I don't know.
[01:57:41]  Those power interests that are sort of like, you know, NATO and the world economic form, I'm just kind of like bringing conspiracy theories all together, the Zionists, the American establishments, the state, they're all kind of aligned in this sort of like Western front.
[01:57:56]  But then you've got the BRICS nations.
[01:57:58]  And Russia is big on standing up to that.
[01:57:59]  And when you actually listen to Putin's speeches in his own words, he very clearly lays out that that's his take.
[01:58:05]  It's just like, that is an empire trying to take over the world.
[01:58:09]  And we don't want to, like, what, and I'm just saying what Putin says, you know, believe him or don't, because he is Putin.
[01:58:15]  Like, he is a KGB lifelong agent and all.
[01:58:17]  But what he says is.
[01:58:19]  Do you listen to his interviews, like, translated?
[01:58:21]  Yeah.
[01:58:22]  Yeah.
[01:58:22]  I mean, not like all of them by any means.
[01:58:23]  I'm not, like, I don't have, you know, 30 hours in a day, but I've listened to a fair number of them.
[01:58:27]  And there was one really interesting one that is.
[01:58:29]  I'm not going to be able to remember the name because it's a Russian name, Vladislav.
[01:58:33]  I forget.
[01:58:35]  Where, and he said this more than once, but essentially what he tends to say is like the West is an empire that is doing evil, woke bullshit, to paraphrase.
[01:58:45]  And he claims that Russia is not trying to expand.
[01:58:47]  We're not trying, like, we don't want more territory.
[01:58:49]  We have so much territory.
[01:58:51]  We could never even use all our own territory.
[01:58:53]  We just want to not be, we just want the world to stay multipolar.
[01:58:58]  We don't want to live in a world that is unipolar, that is ruled by a singular, woke as fuck. Army of this empire.
[01:59:04]  And so he describes their resistance as sort of existential to the fate of the world.
[01:59:09]  And that would align with his sort of alliance with China and his alliance with Iran, basically with anyone else that will oppose the West, not because he wants the new Soviet Union to be, maybe he does, maybe he's on defense.
[01:59:22]  Yeah, he's just trying to like.
[01:59:23]  He tried to join NATO when Bill Clinton was president.
[01:59:27]  The people do not realize, it blows my mind how people just swallowed the Ukraine line without realizing that, like, A, the 2014 coup was a CIA coup, and then B, like, We were doing what the West has always done, which is like poke, poke, poke, poke until the bear kind of like defends itself and then be like, see, the bear started this war.
[01:59:47]  And it's always been how it is.
[01:59:49]  And it's how NATO was approaching.
[01:59:50]  It's also how kind of like the aggression was happening.
[01:59:53]  And that's not even to mention all the weird connections that I'm not really familiar with about Ukraine and the biolabs and the Biden family.
[02:00:00]  Yeah.
[02:00:01]  And I don't even know.

=== Lindsey Graham Aggression (02:19) ===

[02:00:02]  You see, Lindsey Graham came out and he's like, we got $10 trillion worth of minerals.
[02:00:08]  In Ukraine, that we can't let Russia give to China.
[02:00:12]  I did not see that.
[02:00:13]  We got, we got 10, I think it was 10 trillion.
[02:00:16]  We got 10 trillion dollars worth of valuable minerals that if we let that go to Russia, they're going to share it with China.
[02:00:24]  We can't let that happen.
[02:00:25]  You do a good Lindsey Graham voice.
[02:00:26]  God, dude.
[02:00:27]  Yeah.
[02:00:28]  They'll try his southern erotic accent.
[02:00:31]  Yeah.
[02:00:31]  Like any propaganda that they can try, they'll try it.
[02:00:34]  Like the only hope for democracy, like, bro.
[02:00:36]  He's just giving up.
[02:00:37]  I admire Lindsey Graham for basically telling it like he's saying the quiet part out loud now, at least.
[02:00:41]  Yeah.
[02:00:41]  It's like, and everyone's like, Lindsey, shut the fuck up.
[02:00:44]  It's about lesbian basketball players, not about a not about mineral democracy.
[02:00:48]  Lindsey Graham just gave up.
[02:00:49]  Tim Dillon put it the best.
[02:00:50]  He's like, Lindsey Graham, he's had enough.
[02:00:53]  He's taking his skin suit off and dropping it at the dry cleaners for the last time.
[02:00:57]  He's gonna let everybody know what's going on.
[02:01:00]  He's going right back to the center of the earth.
[02:01:02]  Yep.
[02:01:02]  So I realized the other day that I should stop calling myself a journalist and start calling myself a comedian.
[02:01:07]  Yes.
[02:01:08]  Because A, that way, they won't take you as seriously.
[02:01:10]  Exactly.
[02:01:10]  And B, it's like the real world is such a joke.
[02:01:13]  These days, that's why all the best journalists are the comedians.
[02:01:17]  Because, like, what's the difference between telling it like it is and making a joke when this is the world you're trying to report on?
[02:01:24]  It's like, yes.
[02:01:25]  And at least that way, it's like it kind of just puts that protection layer of like, I'm not trying to tell you I know everything.
[02:01:29]  I'm just trying to like figure out what's going on and make some jokes about it because God, it's so depressing if you let it be.
[02:01:35]  And there's this whole other layer that we haven't talked about of just sort of like the spiritual side of, you know, we're all still just people and we're all still living our regular lives and we've got families and like, like what's happening in Ukraine, sure, it will affect the global geopolitical stuff, but like also, you know, whether you go work out today and whether you eat healthy food and like whether you treat people with respect and like whether you go and ask that girl on a date, like those are things that will affect.
[02:01:58]  Our lives like way more.
[02:02:01]  And I think that too many people get sucked into this like information war, this like Twitter space of like politics without remembering that, like, yo, just chill out and put the phone down and like go lift some weights or like go on a hike or like go do something good for yourself.
[02:02:18]  And right.
[02:02:19]  Yeah, totally, man.

=== Groomed Satanic Cult Allegations (08:59) ===

[02:02:21]  It's easy to get lost in the sauce with the social media shit and all the news stories.
[02:02:25]  Fortunately, I love to do it because I sort of like, there's nothing I enjoy more than learning.
[02:02:31]  And that's just always been how I am.
[02:02:34]  And so I sort of have this like, A, I have infinite job security because there will always be corruption in this world to look into.
[02:02:40]  There's looks like there'll just be more and more.
[02:02:41]  By the way, sorry to interrupt, but I love your Patreon.
[02:02:45]  Is that your Patreon tiers for people that join your Patreon?
[02:02:48]  It's my locals channel.
[02:02:50]  No, no, I guess that that was my YouTube's like subscriber tiers.
[02:02:54]  Okay, the members.
[02:02:55]  What was it?
[02:02:56]  It was like CIA watch list or FBI watch list, Mossad hit list.
[02:03:01]  Clinton kill list.
[02:03:03]  I haven't actually checked yet if they rejected it or not.
[02:03:06]  I was a little nervous submitting it, but like, I don't think they're going to let me call it the Clinton kill list.
[02:03:12]  But that is worth a shot.
[02:03:14]  I love that.
[02:03:14]  Yeah.
[02:03:15]  First, I was going to do like tinfoil hat, tinfoil bodysuit, like aluminum, like aircraft grade aluminum spaceship.
[02:03:20]  But like something, I forget the list, the Clinton hit list came to me and I was like, oh, I bet we could roll with that.
[02:03:26]  That's perfect.
[02:03:27]  We labeled our Patreon tiers are based on the levels of Scientology.
[02:03:31]  Hey, there we go.
[02:03:33]  Scientology is based right down the street from here.
[02:03:34]  Really?
[02:03:35]  Yeah.
[02:03:35]  What?
[02:03:35]  The flag building is like 10 minutes down the street.
[02:03:37]  That's where it all started.
[02:03:38]  Interesting.
[02:03:39]  Where L. Ron Hubbard parked his ship, bro.
[02:03:42]  Dude, I should go take a visit before I do that.
[02:03:44]  Yeah, you can do a whole deep dive.
[02:03:45]  That's interesting.
[02:03:46]  Yeah, the they're walking around the whole downtown area, too.
[02:03:49]  They walk around down there.
[02:03:50]  It's like a ghost town.
[02:03:51]  Interesting.
[02:03:51]  Yeah, the David Miscavige, he bought up, like, there's like this whole downtown Clearwater area, and he bought up all, like, the real estate right on the road.
[02:04:01]  So it could be, like, this flourishing downtown business area.
[02:04:04]  Instead, he bought them all, and they're, like, vacant.
[02:04:07]  Super strange.
[02:04:07]  That is weird.
[02:04:08]  I haven't done the whole rabbit hole on Scientology or on Mormonism or on, but like there's these, there's a few of these religions that are like religions.
[02:04:16]  I mean, Mormonism is more of a religion than Scientology for sure.
[02:04:20]  But like they have these kind of interesting, and Scientology is the most obvious one where it's like, is it, do you have a take on it?
[02:04:27]  Like is it CIA?
[02:04:28]  Is it like a cult?
[02:04:30]  Is it something more in a, is it actually just like some dude trying to make money off a Ponzi scheme?
[02:04:35]  Like what the is going on with Scientology?
[02:04:38]  Yeah, no, I think it's insane.
[02:04:40]  I think it's insane that the guy hasn't been arrested or it hasn't been shut down.
[02:04:45]  I think that is crazy.
[02:04:46]  Which to me indicates that maybe there's more going on there.
[02:04:48]  Because there's lots of stories about people being held prisoner against their will, like slavery and shit.
[02:04:55]  Like maybe these are all, I mean, what's the chance that all these stories are fake?
[02:04:59]  Oh, very low.
[02:05:00]  Right.
[02:05:00]  I think the other thing people don't realize is that, and because it's been hidden for a long time, is that that is a way more prevalent thing in this world than anyone wants to admit.
[02:05:10]  And Epstein kind of cracked it open so people could talk about it.
[02:05:12]  But like, like, There is a global satanic religion that does operate aspects of cults around the world.
[02:05:19]  Whether you think that like Hillary Clinton is literally in it or not is a whole different like level of conspiracy, but like a global satanic religion.
[02:05:27]  Oh, yeah, dude.
[02:05:28]  Have you gone down the satanic ritual abuse rabbit hole?
[02:05:31]  It is so dark.
[02:05:33]  There.
[02:05:33]  So, what I'm referring to specifically are survivors giving survivor testimony on video, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.
[02:05:40]  Like, not like one guy came forward and said this.
[02:05:42]  Like, there are whole support networks for these people.
[02:05:45]  Like, there are psychologists that specialize in satanic ritual, SRA victims, satanic ritual abuse.
[02:05:51]  And because you have to like, Treat them in a whole different way than a regular abuse victim because the level of depravity and disgusting, like literal children, like literally, your episode is so screwed now.
[02:06:06]  But there's one in particular that this guy was on the Alondra Markman podcast, and I wish I could remember his name.
[02:06:12]  And I, we don't even want to pull it up because it's so dark.
[02:06:16]  Um, and everyone should you know watch it for themselves and judge it for themselves in terms of whether you think he's telling the truth or not.
[02:06:20]  But personally, it's like you can look into his life, and this guy, like his whole life is based around him recovering from this story essentially.
[02:06:27]  Of his childhood and abuse.
[02:06:30]  It looks far more likely that he's telling mostly the truth than entirely lies to me.
[02:06:34]  What he alleges in this interview that aired a year ago or so, a little less, on Alondra Markman's podcast is that he was born into a satanic family, of which there are many around the world, and that he was groomed from an early age to essentially be a Jeffrey Epstein type of character in a global satanic cult that is not all satanic, but the Satanists are a part of this sort of bigger network of crime and everything.
[02:06:57]  He alleges that he was.
[02:06:59]  How do they define themselves, Satanists?
[02:07:02]  Like, what is the definition of a Satanist to them?
[02:07:04]  My understanding is that some of them, based on what he said, is that some of them are literally worshiping Satan, and some of them are just practicing these things in this cult format and structure.
[02:07:15]  And when I tell you what he's alleging, you'll realize that are so, so like, in the same way that some Jews are really practicing Jewish people, and some Jewish people are, and I don't mean to say I'm not trying to make that connection, I'm just saying that we were just talking about Jews.
[02:07:29]  Some people are more practicing of a religion than others, but you might still go to church and you might still, you know.
[02:07:33]  You might identify as Christian, but you're not as Christian as the next guy.
[02:07:37]  But he alleges that he was groomed from an early age, tortured every day as a child, abused every day as a child to be groomed to have multiple personalities.
[02:07:46]  And then by the time he was like a preteen, he was engaging in child death matches where he would be put in a cage and he would fight to the death with another child in like downtown New York in underground parties that rich people and businessmen would attend.
[02:08:02]  And then that he, yeah.
[02:08:04]  And it sounds so insane, but when you watch it, it's like hard.
[02:08:08]  And it's not like he's the only one that has claimed this.
[02:08:09]  He's just one that put it all in a particularly.
[02:08:12]  Like lots of people have lots of claims about this kind of shit.
[02:08:15]  And he also claims that then after that, he was being groomed to be an actor and he froze up in his acting interview.
[02:08:24]  And so he got shifted from the acting pathway because these guys, like, there's a load of money in this community, allegedly.
[02:08:30]  As in, it's tied into all of the global sex trafficking networks.
[02:08:34]  Because how do you think that global.
[02:08:36]  Trafficking sort of gets all the handlers and gets all of the sort of like operatives that run it.
[02:08:40]  Is you need people that were abused in order to run these things because you need to be that kind of broken, like you need to be groomed to be able to run this without breaking it.
[02:08:48]  Yeah, is this all like tied into like the Franklin scandal?
[02:08:51]  Similar, yeah.
[02:08:52]  So he claims he met Jeffrey Epstein on two occasions.
[02:08:54]  He claims that he was being groomed to essentially be a handler similar to Jeffrey Epstein.
[02:08:58]  And he had a really lucid description that Jeffrey Epstein was an insanely good code switcher, is what made Jeffrey unique, that he could.
[02:09:06]  Be completely normal businessman, like banker guy, right now, and then like literally turn the other way and be an absolute dislike, depraved, abusive monster, and then like right back on like the drop of a pin.
[02:09:19]  And that's what made him so unique in this guy's perspective.
[02:09:23]  And he kind of like had his programming, his like trauma did not work correctly.
[02:09:27]  And so rather than going that route, he became a breeder.
[02:09:30]  And he alleges that he was sent to a compound in Mexico where he would breed with trafficked girls.
[02:09:38]  All day, every single day, um, for like two or three years, and they would just breed and breed and breed and breed.
[02:09:44]  And he alleges that that is because he was, but they were particularly interested in him because of his bloodline and his heritage as a direct, some sort of direct descendant of King Solomon, is what he says.
[02:09:56]  And it's like, who's this dude?
[02:09:57]  What's this dude's name again?
[02:09:58]  Um, I don't remember his name.
[02:10:00]  I remember that he was on the Alondra Markman podcast, and she is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse as well.
[02:10:06]  Is she Anik Lucas?
[02:10:08]  Yes, Anik Lucas.
[02:10:11]  Anika Lucas.
[02:10:11]  Okay, so.
[02:10:12]  This is what I'm talking about.
[02:10:13]  Okay, so Alondra Markman is his name, and Annika Lucas is her name.
[02:10:17]  She's the one hosting the podcast.
[02:10:18]  And that's the guy.
[02:10:19]  He's the descendant of who?
[02:10:21]  So, what he says in there is that they were interested in him because he has something like 97% Ashkenazi Jewish heritage or something like that, and is allegedly a direct descendant of King Solomon's bloodline.
[02:10:33]  He doesn't say whether he knows that's true or not or anything.
[02:10:35]  He just says that he was made, he was under the impression that that was why he got selected for the breeding program specifically.
[02:10:42]  Does he have any proof of this?
[02:10:44]  Um, not really, no.
[02:10:46]  And so that's why I say, like, you should, and first, you should not watch it if you are at all sensitive in any way.
[02:10:55]  And you should only watch it when you are of, like, a sound heart and ready to, like, hear some of the most dark and f up things you've ever heard in your life.
[02:11:18]  Obviously, you can't tell for sure from it.

=== Vatican Calvi Satanism Scandal (15:12) ===

[02:11:20]  But that's where I start to look at the Finders cult, look at the Nexium cult, look at Jeffrey Epstein, look at the Nexium things.
[02:11:26]  It's crazy, dude.
[02:11:28]  Who's the guy that ran Virgin Mobile or whatever it was?
[02:11:33]  Virgin Galactic?
[02:11:35]  No.
[02:11:36]  Brandt Brandstein?
[02:11:37]  Brandt Richard Branson?
[02:11:38]  Richard Branson.
[02:11:40]  There's a lot of darker people than just Jeffrey Epstein that have been caught.
[02:11:45]  Am I confusing Branson with the other guy?
[02:11:48]  Who was the billionaire that owned all the islands that was on camera talking about how he wanted to breed with the black women because they had such good genetics?
[02:11:57]  Oh, I don't know.
[02:11:59]  Oh, man, I forget.
[02:12:00]  I think that's who it was.
[02:12:02]  I mean, Richard Brandt, yeah, he owned Virgin.
[02:12:05]  He owns Virgin, Virgin Airlines, Virgin Mobile.
[02:12:06]  I could be confusing him, though, with one of the other old white haired tech billionaires.
[02:12:11]  But there's just like.
[02:12:12]  Sounds on par, though.
[02:12:13]  Yeah, there's a lot of just.
[02:12:18]  There's starting to be more and more and more overwhelming evidence that Satanism.
[02:12:24]  I mean, hey, let's rewind.
[02:12:25]  Anton LaVey, do you know who that is?
[02:12:27]  Yes.
[02:12:27]  Right?
[02:12:27]  So, like, we know that Satanism is a religion.
[02:12:30]  Like, we know that it does exist.
[02:12:31]  It's a ridiculous religion.
[02:12:32]  Yeah.
[02:12:33]  It's not based on anything.
[02:12:34]  It's not based on anything.
[02:12:35]  It's like it's been fabricated.
[02:12:37]  I would argue you're probably correct in some ways, but also it's not.
[02:12:40]  And at the end of the day, it's religious.
[02:12:43]  Like, you're being, you're fucking, like, that's not the, that's not what it means.
[02:12:48]  Like, that's not what Satan really was, according to Christians or according to Catholics or according to any ancient texts.
[02:12:53]  Yeah.
[02:12:54]  In the same way that, like, these days, a lot of religious institutions are actually just people kind of perverting concepts and using them to manipulate people to do things.
[02:13:01]  I would argue that that is textbook what Homeboy is alleging in that interview.
[02:13:07]  And it's the same thing with any religious institution.
[02:13:09]  It's like, yeah, there's the belief, the word of God, the actual spiritual structure of a religion that I think is super valuable for humans to have.
[02:13:17]  It's super valuable for us to have.
[02:13:19]  But then there's the side of, like, okay, now let's institutionalize it and control it.
[02:13:23]  And, like, Give it back to you in this new way.
[02:13:26]  When Christianity came about and the church solidified itself in society in like the 400s, that's when we started, that's when we went to the dark ages.
[02:13:37]  And that's when creativity, art, intellectual shit, science got squashed.
[02:13:44]  Well, in the Western, in like Europe, in Western Europe, it did.
[02:13:48]  Yeah.
[02:13:48]  But if I'm not mistaken, that is when like over in the East and in the Islamic world, like shit was just starting to thrive.
[02:13:55]  There's a little bit of like a global dark age around the Black Plague, and I'm no historian by any means.
[02:14:00]  But I think we often get our history skewed to like in Europe, yeah, we were not doing good.
[02:14:04]  Right.
[02:14:05]  But that's just one little part of the world.
[02:14:06]  And it is the part where Christianity was currently being criticized.
[02:14:10]  Right.
[02:14:10]  And the church is synonymous with abusing children.
[02:14:13]  In a lot of ways.
[02:14:14]  Dude, I just went down this rabbit hole in a bit.
[02:14:16]  So Satan is.
[02:14:17]  The Catholic Church?
[02:14:17]  Right.
[02:14:18]  Yeah.
[02:14:19]  So it's funny to me that Satanism, because the word Satan means to be the opposite, or it means to be.
[02:14:26]  That's what it means the opposite of Christianity or the opponent of Zeus, right?
[02:14:31]  The guy who tried to wipe out humanity.
[02:14:34]  And the church, God, the church fathers that are running these churches and benefiting from all their preaching and making a living from it are the ones that are abusing kids.
[02:14:45]  So, how is Satanism, which is the opposite of this, tied to abusing children?
[02:14:50]  It's like they recreated some new thing and tied it to the word Satan in the new world.
[02:14:55]  It's a new definition.
[02:14:57]  That's a good take.
[02:14:58]  I would argue it's really important in that context to distinguish between the institution of the church that is tied to abusing kids versus like the actual beliefs of the Christian people as written in the Bible and as communicated to them by Jesus.
[02:15:13]  Because obviously, like, I would argue that the, that, I mean, Jesus broke away from the Jews, right?
[02:15:20]  That before Jesus, and I am no religious historian.
[02:15:22]  This is just my current understanding, which is very lackluster.
[02:15:25]  But what I understand is that Judaism was doing its thing.
[02:15:29]  And then Jesus came along and was like, yo, this religion has been corrupted by, I forget the name that they've got for them, the Philistines, the Philistines, I think is what they call them.
[02:15:41]  And it's written in there.
[02:15:42]  And he's like, these guys are corrupt.
[02:15:44]  And they believe these things that aren't like the real word of God.
[02:15:46]  And actually, we should love all people, love your neighbor.
[02:15:49]  And that sort of is like where Christianity split off of Judaism.
[02:15:52]  And like Jesus was preaching these other tenets that, as far as I can tell, were mostly like more towards like all love, all one, like treat every, like, you know, poverty, whatever.
[02:16:05]  Whereas Judaism has a lot of stuff kind of written into it that are like weird laws that have to do with like who has rights and who doesn't and who does what.
[02:16:11]  And like, and Judaism has a lot of like Jewish people are different than everyone else.
[02:16:15]  And we don't have the same laws and treatment as everyone else, which is kind of what I have some problems with.
[02:16:20]  But I also don't understand it all.
[02:16:23]  But then, like, so Jesus, like, he was different enough than Judaism that they wanted to A, kill him, and B, like, it turned into this whole other religion that then spawned the Abrahamic, like, and then Abraham was another prophet.
[02:16:34]  So Judaism, then Christianity, then Islam is the sort of lineage of those religions.
[02:16:40]  And Judaism being the oldest one, but what Christianity, like, Christianity being tied to abusing children.
[02:16:47]  Is really just a scandal of the Catholic Church of like, you know, the last 500 years or so.
[02:16:53]  And the story of that coming out is fascinating.
[02:16:57]  And it's tied into sort of the Catholic Church almost going under, financially speaking, as a lot of the like kind of the Napoleonic Wars were going on, all this.
[02:17:06]  It's super interesting.
[02:17:07]  Yeah, it is.
[02:17:08]  And we were talking about this yesterday.
[02:17:09]  Do you know about the cardinal that got hung under the bridge as like a message?
[02:17:15]  They like, they hired the mafia.
[02:17:18]  To hang this dude that had been like the financial manager of the Vatican.
[02:17:23]  I haven't gone deep enough.
[02:17:24]  I didn't take notes or anything.
[02:17:25]  I was just listening to a podcast and kind of getting the cursory details.
[02:17:28]  So it's not all in here.
[02:17:30]  But yeah, he was the financial.
[02:17:31]  You can find it.
[02:17:32]  Yeah, it's like the famous.
[02:17:33]  It was in the 70s or the 80s or something.
[02:17:35]  It was more recent.
[02:17:37]  And he had been involved in all these scandals where the Vatican had been misusing their money and they kind of got caught and they had to pay all this money.
[02:17:45]  And what it looks like happened is they got the mafia to put a hit out on him and they hung him from a bridge.
[02:17:51]  To send a message of like, you fed up.
[02:17:54]  What was he doing?
[02:17:57]  He was doing, yeah, like fraudulent money stuff with the Vatican Bank, just like investing in dangerous ways with people that were kind of fraudsters.
[02:18:05]  Right.
[02:18:05]  Are you talking about Banco Ambrosio, maybe?
[02:18:09]  Yeah.
[02:18:09]  Yeah, his name was like Carti or Concordi.
[02:18:13]  It was like a short C name, I think.
[02:18:16]  This is what pulled up.
[02:18:20]  Yeah, it was Calvino Ambrosiano.
[02:18:23]  Boom, Calvi.
[02:18:24]  Calvi, Roberto Calvi.
[02:18:25]  Yeah, look up Roberto Calvi and go to his Wikipedia page, and it'll tell you.
[02:18:29]  Or, like, Roberto Calvi hangs or hanging or whatever.
[02:18:32]  I'm pretty sure he's the one that got hung from this bridge, his death.
[02:18:39]  Italian banker dubbed God's banker.
[02:18:42]  I love that.
[02:18:43]  It's a whole rabbit hole.
[02:18:44]  It's super interesting.
[02:18:46]  Native to Milan, chairman to a Banco Ambrosiano, which collapsed.
[02:18:51]  He died in 82.
[02:18:54]  And he had sort of like just kind of cleared it all and was basically fleeing, I think.
[02:18:59]  And then he kind of got caught and hung.
[02:19:02]  Five people were acquitted in Rome in 2007 in a conspiracy to murder Calvi.
[02:19:06]  Yeah.
[02:19:06]  Popular suspicion has linked his death to allegedly corrupt officials at the Vatican Bank.
[02:19:11]  Yeah.
[02:19:13]  It's super interesting.
[02:19:14]  So, you want to know this?
[02:19:15]  And this started to open my brain up to this whole other kind of coincidence.
[02:19:21]  Like, okay, in America, organized crime is the Italian mafia and the Jewish mob.
[02:19:26]  And the two biggest religions in the world, the three are Jewish Judaism and Christianity, Catholic.
[02:19:34]  So, we and like most conspiracy theories are like Israel Jewish conspiracy theories or Catholic Church.
[02:19:41]  Yeah.
[02:19:41]  You know, Vatican conspiracy theories that go along with like the Knights Templar.
[02:19:45]  And it's like these two lineages of conspiracy theories.
[02:19:47]  And I'm not saying I believe them.
[02:19:49]  I'm just saying they are there.
[02:19:50]  And there's also a lot of good conspiracy about the Nazis.
[02:19:52]  Yeah.
[02:19:52]  Well, they, I mean, they represented the Catholics.
[02:19:55]  Yeah.
[02:19:55]  They worked with the Vatican.
[02:19:56]  They were working with the Vatican.
[02:19:57]  Yeah.
[02:19:57]  And so when you start to trace those two religious beliefs forwards into today, and you just wind up with like, okay, there's the mafia and the mob.
[02:20:05]  And there's like, okay, there's like the Nazis and the allies.
[02:20:08]  And like, okay.
[02:20:09]  And I'm not saying which side is good or evil.
[02:20:12]  I'm just saying that like, they're, Seems to be a religious bent to a lot of history that is in many ways like the conspiracy theory history traces both of those directions rather closely.
[02:20:26]  And it's super interesting when you get into like the Vatican conspiracies and you realize that like the Vatican and the Mafia are like very tied together, they're doing a lot of the same shit.
[02:20:35]  And so then when this dude betrays the Vatican and they like who are they going to ask to get him?
[02:20:40]  The Mafia, obviously, because the Vatican is from Italy and it's basically the Roman Empire became the Vatican, right?
[02:20:46]  For simplicity's sake.
[02:20:47]  Right.
[02:20:48]  Right.
[02:20:49]  And so, in some ways, I mean, for a very oversimplified version of it, just for like the storybook version, it sort of is like the Holy Roman Empire became the Catholic Church and the Vatican and that whole conspiratorial power base.
[02:21:01]  And then the Rothschild banking dynasty and the Israelites and the Jewish, you know, global power systems became the modern day Israeli state.
[02:21:10]  And I don't know if they're together now, working together, or if they're at war still, or even if that's like in any way real.
[02:21:17]  It's just like an interesting, like, Kind of thread to read through history on.
[02:21:22]  And you got George Soros.
[02:21:24]  Oh, yeah.
[02:21:24]  How is that guy still alive?
[02:21:25]  Dude, I don't know.
[02:21:26]  I'm hoping.
[02:21:27]  Well, here's the problem.
[02:21:28]  You know about his son marrying Huma Abedin?
[02:21:31]  Yeah.
[02:21:31]  What was that about?
[02:21:32]  Who was that again?
[02:21:33]  So Huma, we're about to go Pizzagate.
[02:21:37]  Huma.
[02:21:37]  I knew it was going to happen.
[02:21:38]  Is deeply tied to Hillary Clinton in a big way.
[02:21:41]  And I've not done the deepest dives on it, but Huma is deeply tied to a lot of the allegations about Clinton in Haiti and is deeply tied to the.
[02:21:51]  Whole Anthony Weiner thing is my understanding, and Anthony Weiner is the frazzle drip thing.
[02:21:56]  Yeah, and everyone should do their own research on that and you know, be careful what you believe and think for yourself.
[02:22:02]  All I know is that I'm trying to tell the guy sent the pictures of his Weiner, right?
[02:22:14]  No, no, no Uh, communications about clearly child's king, dude.
[02:22:28]  He just look at him, he looks like a demon, he's deeply evil.
[02:22:31]  Like, he looks like a demon.
[02:22:32]  Um, if anyone doesn't know about Frazzle Drip, obviously, you cannot confirm or deny it for yourself.
[02:22:37]  You can't confirm for yourself anymore because it has been like fully scrubbed off the internet.
[02:22:41]  Like, the Clinton emails, you know, are pretty scrubbed.
[02:22:43]  Like, WikiLeaks kind of got yeah up over that, but like, the Clinton emails was just like the tip of the iceberg.
[02:22:50]  There, it was actually the Wiener laptop was far more.
[02:22:55]  Damning and far more complicated.
[02:22:58]  And it was Weiner and Clinton and the Podestas, whom Aberdeen was right up in there.
[02:23:04]  And I don't know.
[02:23:06]  I can't personally verify if the Wiener laptop is for sure real or not because it's been so thoroughly scrubbed.
[02:23:12]  But there's reports of the police investigating it.
[02:23:14]  There's, you know, whatever.
[02:23:16]  But I do know that what is still available on the internet in the Clinton emails are deeply incriminating.
[02:23:22]  And I do know that I dug into how Pizzagate was debunked and it was wildly unsatisfactory like so beyond an unsatisfactory debunk.
[02:23:31]  I don't even know how to describe it.
[02:23:32]  How so?
[02:23:34]  In the.
[02:23:35]  The short version, we can dig into it more if you want, but the very short version is just that it was the textbook version of put up a straw man that is not actually what the conspiracy theory is and then knock it down.
[02:23:47]  And so the claim, right, the official version of it was debunked before the guy that did this debunk got arrested for child, which is a real story, is that conspiracy theorists believe that Hillary Clinton is running a global child ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor, which sounds Totally retarded.
[02:24:08]  Yes.
[02:24:09]  And then this conspiracy theorist that believed it went in there with an AR 15 and shot and like threatened all the staff in order to show him the basement.
[02:24:19]  And there was no basement and he got all embarrassed and he got arrested.
[02:24:22]  He like shot the place up or whatever, this crazy lunatic QAnon guy.
[02:24:27]  Yeah.
[02:24:27]  And so that's like why it's so dangerous to believe conspiracy theories.
[02:24:31]  Totally debunked.
[02:24:32]  And there's this perfect sound bite that they got from him where he like is quoted in every single article as saying something along the lines of like, I just was so sure it was there and it's just not.
[02:24:43]  I guess you just can't believe everything or something, you know, something that was like that level of like, you could not have written a better pre planned statement if you had tried.
[02:24:53]  And A, that's not the claim.
[02:24:55]  And B, that is not a satisfaction.
[02:24:57]  Like, just because you have a news story about totally not a CIA operative going in and pretending to shoot a place, like, none of that is a debunk because the actual claims are far more complicated and far more vast and are very much just.
[02:25:12]  Visibly there on the internet, like James Alafontis' Instagram page is so beyond disturbing.
[02:25:19]  It's been scrubbed now, but it's all been archived and saved by people.
[02:25:22]  It's like.
[02:25:22]  This is the guy with the gun?
[02:25:23]  No, no.
[02:25:24]  James Alafontis is the owner of that pizza parlor.
[02:25:26]  Oh, okay.
[02:25:26]  And so the actual allegation is not that Hillary Clinton is personally running a child ring out of the basement of that pizza parlor.
[02:25:33]  And by the way, by describing this, I'm not saying that I believe every bit of this is true.
[02:25:37]  I'm just saying that as a journal, like it is our job to learn what the actual.
[02:25:42]  Claim is right before you can even debunk it.
[02:25:45]  So I went looking, is like, what is the actual claim?
[02:25:48]  And the actual claim is just that there is a global trafficking network that exists.
[02:25:55]  And in order to have such a network, you have to have front businesses out of which you operate the various nodes of that network.
[02:26:02]  Like if you want to sell children to rich people, you have to have a place where they can go and buy them, right?
[02:26:08]  You have to have places where they're holding them, you have to have places where you're transporting them through.
[02:26:11]  Like that's how you run a business, right?
[02:26:13]  And so the claim was that this pizza parlor was one.
[02:26:16]  Part of that vast network, and there was shady business happening out of it.
[02:26:20]  And when you look at James Alafontis' Instagram page, who's the owner of the pizza parlor, who is like Hillary Clinton is just throwing pizza parties, like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, they are literally just throwing pizza parties.

=== Eric Schmidt Bar Search Deception (05:50) ===

[02:26:33]  They're good friends with this guy, James Alafontis, who's just a random dude.
[02:26:37]  There's like a photo on James Alafontis' Instagram page of Barack Obama playing ping pong with an idol.
[02:26:41]  Can you find him still on the internet if you look for him?
[02:26:43]  Yeah, if you go to X, especially because his Instagram has been deleted.
[02:26:47]  I can't figure out how to search on X, no matter how much I try.
[02:26:50]  Well, there's a search bar.
[02:26:50]  There's a search bar.
[02:26:51]  I know there's a search bar, but when I search for shit, I can't figure out how to like find it.
[02:26:54]  It's kind of tricky.
[02:26:55]  But yeah, if you search like James Oliphantus Instagram or, you know, James Oliphantus Instagram on X photos, you could try it on the internet and see what you pull up.
[02:27:05]  You'd have to go Instagram too.
[02:27:07]  Yeah, far more than just his name though.
[02:27:09]  Yeah, James Oliphantus Instagram.
[02:27:11]  Instagram.
[02:27:12]  Yeah.
[02:27:13]  Or yeah, just like Instagram posts.
[02:27:14]  Like this will probably bring a lot of it up.
[02:27:17]  But like, yeah, there's a photo of Barack Obama playing ping pong with an unnamed child.
[02:27:21]  But then there's like photos of kids like with their hands bound, like, Like, and there's commenters that are saying, like, ooh, looks tasty.
[02:27:29]  Or it's like so beyond creepy.
[02:27:33]  I can't even be on his Instagram.
[02:27:35]  Yeah.
[02:27:35]  It was like openly posted on Instagram.
[02:27:38]  Because no one was there.
[02:27:39]  Because no one was actually looking at his Instagram.
[02:27:41]  It was just because Instagram is actually full of editors.
[02:27:44]  Instagram is full of tradition.
[02:27:46]  It is super dark.
[02:27:50]  Yeah.
[02:27:51]  It'll all be censored off of Google image results for sure.
[02:27:55]  But what you.
[02:27:56]  Want to find is someone who is archived there.
[02:28:00]  There's one to the left there.
[02:28:02]  So that's a real photo from his Instagram that got posted on his real Instagram.
[02:28:05]  He came with his hands taped?
[02:28:06]  Yeah.
[02:28:07]  A child with their hands taped down with the photographer right behind them.
[02:28:11]  And they have intentionally blurred the comments because of how up the people that are commenting on this guy's page are.
[02:28:18]  And it's like, and it's not just one.
[02:28:21]  It is like every photo on the dude's Instagram was, before it got scrubbed, just so beyond what the.
[02:28:28]  Am I reading right now?
[02:28:30]  This is like where I have trouble with shit.
[02:28:31]  Like when you see stuff like this, the news posted, there it is, uncensored.
[02:28:35]  Zoom in on it.
[02:28:36]  Oh.
[02:28:37]  You just had the uncensored version.
[02:28:41]  Can you punch in on it, see what it says?
[02:28:45]  Jen.
[02:28:46]  Jen.
[02:28:46]  New seating air truck.
[02:28:48]  New seating procedure for your youngest guests.
[02:28:50]  Hilaire.
[02:28:52]  Seems pretty creepy, bro.
[02:28:54]  Yeah.
[02:28:54]  And then there was another one that would be, there's like one of a baby eating some money or something.
[02:28:59]  So like this is, this is, Where I have trouble with this shit.
[02:29:02]  Like, when you have random photos of this that are being talked about on the news that are being pieced together with some crazy conspiracy, it's like you don't even have to fucking vet it and show your sources.
[02:29:14]  You're just, it's like this just recently happened with the Trump thing.
[02:29:17]  There's this whole thing that was going on on Fox and CNN.
[02:29:20]  They were all showing the photo of this fucking bicycle that they were saying was the gunman's bike.
[02:29:24]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:29:25]  They're like, oh, we got a bike.
[02:29:26]  It's right here.
[02:29:27]  And it was everywhere, all over the mainstream media.
[02:29:29]  But then Andrew Callahan of Channel Five, he has a YouTube channel, used to be called All Gas No Breaks.
[02:29:34]  He Interviewed this dude after the Trump shooting, like the day after, in front of a convenience store of the guy riding the same exact bike.
[02:29:44]  Yep.
[02:29:45]  So it clearly, like he was just mocking it.
[02:29:47]  Can you go to.
[02:29:48]  That's a good one to look at right there with the.
[02:29:50]  But, anyways, you are exactly right.
[02:29:52]  And you have a great point here that you don't even have to.
[02:29:56]  Well, actually, no, I would rebut that.
[02:29:58]  No, you totally do have to vet all of that.
[02:30:01]  Like, you can't just trust those images for face value.
[02:30:04]  You can't just trust.
[02:30:05]  That like, because someone could totally make up a fake James Alphonse's Instagram post and run with this.
[02:30:09]  And so you actually.
[02:30:10]  And somebody could have been making a joke like, oh, kid, like my kid likes to break shit or likes to throw shit.
[02:30:15]  So it's the totality of the table.
[02:30:17]  It's the totality of the evidence that has to be vetted.
[02:30:19]  And that's what I wound up doing is like, not just find like people claiming, it's like go to all of the various like journalists at the time that got discredited for reporting on it.
[02:30:28]  Go to site after site after site after site and make sure they all agree.
[02:30:31]  Make sure they all align.
[02:30:32]  Because you can't, in the day of the internet, you can't really tell what's real and fake.
[02:30:37]  And all you can really do is sort of.
[02:30:39]  Go to every source that's reporting on a thing and try to assess are they all agreeing and how many of them are trustworthy and what are their motives and who is discrediting it and how are they.
[02:30:50]  So you have to take everything into effect.
[02:30:51]  Then you got to factor in AI.
[02:30:53]  Bingo.
[02:30:53]  But this is before AI and it all broke before AI.
[02:30:56]  And when you do that process with James, and James Alphonse's Instagram is just like one tiny piece of it, but it's a particularly startling one.
[02:31:04]  And when you apply that process to it, it becomes pretty obvious that the people that are debunking Pizzagate are trying very hard to ignore his Instagram and to scrub it off the internet and to not talk about it and to sort of belittle it.
[02:31:17]  And everyone that is pointing it out is sharing the exact same information and the exact same posts and photos with very much the exact same data that was taken at the time of it.
[02:31:28]  Originally breaking when it was still up.
[02:31:31]  Right.
[02:31:31]  But also to play devil's advocate, just because people are suppressing stuff about Pizzagate doesn't mean they're in on this stuff.
[02:31:37]  It could just mean they support Hillary Clinton.
[02:31:38]  Oh, 100%.
[02:31:39]  And they don't.
[02:31:39]  100%.
[02:31:40]  Could have donated to some guy at Google.
[02:31:42]  What's the guy's name who's been donating to the guy?
[02:31:43]  Sarah Lee Brin?
[02:31:44]  Larry Page?
[02:31:45]  Eric Schmidt.
[02:31:45]  Oh, Eric Schmidt.
[02:31:46]  Eric Schmidt.
[02:31:46]  Right.
[02:31:47]  It's like, we're not going to fucking let any conspiracies about Hillary or Bill come out.
[02:31:50]  So whatever.
[02:31:50]  We don't know anything about child sex trafficking, but.
[02:31:53]  I mean, I'm.
[02:31:53]  And everyone's going to be like, look at them.
[02:31:55]  They're.
[02:31:56]  Yeah.
[02:31:56]  So I'm not claiming.
[02:31:57]  I don't know what to believe.
[02:31:59]  All I know is that there's something there's something there that is being.
[02:32:01]  Covered up in some way.
[02:32:02]  And I certainly don't, you can't infer that everyone covering it up has, like, because, you know, at this point, we have a huge mind virus in our world, unrelated to this, that is just people that have picked a political side.
[02:32:14]  Oh, it's like Sunni versus Shia.
[02:32:16]  It's crazy.
[02:32:17]  It's religion.
[02:32:17]  Anything.
[02:32:18]  Right.
[02:32:18]  And so I think a lot of the journalists, the press coverage is just that.

=== Politico Debunking Incentives (03:23) ===

[02:32:23]  And the thing that got me started on it was actually that, like, I didn't know anything about it.
[02:32:29]  And I wanted to look it up of, like, how it was when the dude actually, the guy that debunked it, got arrested for child.
[02:32:36]  And I was like, that's fucking weird.
[02:32:37]  Like, let me look into this whole thing.
[02:32:39]  And I found the first article I found was like a Politico article or, you know, one of these very basic mainstream news sources that was debunking Pizzagate.
[02:32:47]  And they linked all their sources in the article.
[02:32:49]  And so I was like, good.
[02:32:49]  We linked our sources.
[02:32:50]  Perfect.
[02:32:51]  And I clicked on the link and it linked to another Politico article that was their source about it.
[02:32:56]  So it's like a Politico debunk linked to a Politico debunk.
[02:32:59]  And I started doing it with every single link in the page.
[02:33:01]  And it was all just this incestuous web of them writing a bunch of articles debunking it, linking between them all.
[02:33:06]  And I'm like, Something smells here.
[02:33:09]  I'm going to look deeper.
[02:33:10]  And that's when I started to look deeper and started to just realize that, like, there's something here and I don't know what it is.
[02:33:15]  Here's the thing people like me and you have the luxury of time to research this stuff and really dig deep.
[02:33:22]  Most people don't have that time.
[02:33:24]  They're just scrolling through Instagram memes.
[02:33:26]  And I think it's by design, not by design by like some global cabal that's like orgs, just by design of like, if we don't have time to do anything except for like go to work, spend our money on our essentials and like, On some drugs to party with tonight and then go to work again tomorrow.
[02:33:41]  That's like the most epic dream for the whole corporate club of rich people that control our world ever.
[02:33:49]  You don't even need some big conspiracy for that to be the most beneficial scenario for them.
[02:33:55]  And so the more economic hardship, the better.
[02:33:57]  The more political strife that keeps us just arguing over bullshit, the better.
[02:34:03]  The more culture wars, the better.
[02:34:04]  Because that way we're not looking at what's really going on up there.
[02:34:08]  And that's been sort of my take or goal from the start is like, A, I want to know what's going on because I realized that I didn't know shit about what I was talking about because everything was just me regurgitating.
[02:34:20]  Like, I saw one YouTube video and now I have an opinion.
[02:34:22]  And I was like, I should probably research these things and actually learn what is going on.
[02:34:27]  But then it also, I started to realize that, like, oh, it's like no one has time for this shit.
[02:34:31]  And everyone's opinion is based upon these quick clips.
[02:34:34]  And so, like, the more of us that are spending, at least trying our best to try to push the collective envelope towards more sources.
[02:34:44]  And skepticism and honest debate.
[02:34:46]  Cause like we'll all have different opinions, right?
[02:34:48]  We'll all read the evidence differently and have a different.
[02:34:51]  But as long as we're pushing the core values of evidence, respectful debate, difference of opinions, basic journalistic, kind of just debate, the process of inquiry that has led to the Academy of Ideas that we've built our entire civilization on.
[02:35:09]  As long as we're generally got more of those people, and you're a great example of that, just kind of working in the space collectively so that that way the regular people that don't have time, more and more of their media sources are following these.
[02:35:22]  You know, principles and ethics that hopefully lead us towards good information, the better everyone off will be.
[02:35:31]  Because if none of us do it, then it'll just be like the CIA, the mainstream corporate media that's paid for by the corporations.
[02:35:38]  Like it's all, there's a lot of monetary incentive to control what we think about products, about politics, about everything in this world.

=== Pharma Hormones Social Contagion (02:32) ===

[02:35:47]  You can make money off of anything.
[02:35:49]  And so it's, and I guess that's, I like, A lot of my followers have a problem with me because I've sort of like gone deeper and deeper into the conspiracy rabbit holes, which is fair.
[02:36:01]  That's cool.
[02:36:02]  But I just think that people don't have the time to realize how much money can be made off of so many things.
[02:36:11]  And a lot of them are very controversial.
[02:36:13]  And for one of the big ones I haven't really gone into a whole lot yet is the whole transgender thing, in the sense that like I think the debate is oversimplified on both sides.
[02:36:21]  But one thing I know for sure is that no one is really talking about how much money is getting made.
[02:36:27]  Off of transgenderism.
[02:36:29]  Like, that is a huge cash cow.
[02:36:31]  You're talking about with like the clinics where they can go and get the therapy?
[02:36:36]  I'm talking about every aspect of transgender care and treatment in every way is a goldmine.
[02:36:44]  Because so the reason, and vaccines are a controversial one, and the reason why they're so beneficial for Kapharma to sell vaccines is because normally you only treat people that are sick, but a vaccine is suddenly a medication that you sell to.
[02:36:58]  Everyone.
[02:36:59]  And so you just went from selling your product to 2% of the population or 0.5% of the population to 100% of the population.
[02:37:04]  And the economy of that is just insane.
[02:37:09]  So the other thing that's really beneficial for pharma is when you get a lifelong patient, right?
[02:37:14]  You don't want to cure people.
[02:37:16]  You want to sell them therapies that they are dependent on for their whole life, right?
[02:37:19]  That's ideal.
[02:37:20]  And there's no better way to do that than to chop off the organs that produce the hormones that are essential for us to live, right?
[02:37:27]  And I'm not saying that.
[02:37:29]  That it's like, I'm not saying trans people are evil.
[02:37:31]  I'm not saying anything like that.
[02:37:32]  I'm just saying that it's a very complicated discussion and people should think very carefully about the information in that space because pharma, if you take puberty blockers as a kid, pharma has just made a customer for the rest of your life.
[02:37:46]  And there's no other option because if you take puberty blockers or have a surgery that makes you so you can't produce hormones, you damn well better be certain that you want that to be the rest of your life because it is the rest of your life.
[02:37:59]  It's hard to look up how much money they make off of it.
[02:38:01]  And I have tried, but it's somewhere in the ballpark of maybe like $100,000 to $300,000, give or take a huge range for a whole lifetime of care per person.
[02:38:13]  I don't think this shit's going to last.
[02:38:14]  I don't think this shit's going to last much longer.
[02:38:16]  It's just so counter to truth and to like obvious science.

=== Teaching Gay People Bullying (03:38) ===

[02:38:20]  It's like so clearly a social contagion.
[02:38:23]  Yes.
[02:38:24]  It's very obvious.
[02:38:25]  Yeah.
[02:38:25]  Like Megan Fox does not have three trans children.
[02:38:28]  It's just not how, like, you don't go from having no, like, very, very, very few trans.
[02:38:33]  Like people with gender dysphoria and trans, like, you know, genetics or mindsets, whatever it is, to today, a woman can have three children that all just happen to be trans.
[02:38:44]  And you're telling me that that is not socially imparted to them.
[02:38:48]  Right.
[02:38:48]  And I'm a, so I am raised by two teacher educators.
[02:38:51]  And I spent my, both your parents were teachers?
[02:38:53]  Yeah.
[02:38:53]  So they taught teachers.
[02:38:55]  My dad taught teachers.
[02:38:56]  My dad taught teachers at a university level for my whole life.
[02:38:59]  And my mom was the principal of a school after a career of teaching teachers also.
[02:39:03]  Oh, wow.
[02:39:03]  And so I started teaching when I was 14 as a volunteer.
[02:39:07]  And I had my first paid teaching job when I was 16.
[02:39:09]  No shit.
[02:39:09]  And I taught from like 16 to like 28 or something like that.
[02:39:13]  And just, and I'd never had a degree.
[02:39:15]  I was just like good at it and like got in and then got recommended and then got recommended.
[02:39:19]  And so I just like kind of hopped through really cool teaching jobs.
[02:39:22]  But I've worked with all ages of kids from like pre K through high school and middle school.
[02:39:27]  And there is nothing like more clear when you've worked with kids than how impressionable they are.
[02:39:33]  Like kids don't know what's real.
[02:39:35]  No.
[02:39:36]  And if you teach kids that it's okay to bully people, then it's okay to bully people.
[02:39:40]  If you teach kids that you always hold the door for people, then they always hold the door for people.
[02:39:44]  Right.
[02:39:45]  Right.
[02:39:45]  If you teach them there's 500 genders, then there are 500 genders and they don't know this stuff.
[02:39:49]  Right.
[02:39:50]  And so when you pair teaching kids this like clearly not like, There are X and Y chromosomes.
[02:39:56]  Like, sure, you can feel however you want to feel, but like, there are X and Y chromosomes.
[02:39:59]  By the way, you don't normally teach young kids about sex, anyways.
[02:40:04]  No, not a chance, not even close.
[02:40:06]  It's so messed up.
[02:40:07]  And it's like, I can think of no more red line in the sand for me.
[02:40:12]  Like, and so here's the thing is that I was like totally, like, I'm a liberal from the left, from Washington State.
[02:40:17]  Like, I've only changed as the left has changed and as I've learned.
[02:40:22]  But I'm like a total ally.
[02:40:24]  Like, gay people are totally like a part of the universe.
[02:40:27]  And I disagree with sort of like the right wing, like gay people are evil and gay people, like, sure, even if you were right, I don't care.
[02:40:34]  Gay people are part of the world.
[02:40:36]  Do you see the girl who had the, I forget her name, the lesbian athlete?
[02:40:39]  I can't believe I forgot her name.
[02:40:40]  She, you can maybe find it, Steve.
[02:40:42]  She had a great tweet about the Olympics opening ceremony thing.
[02:40:46]  She was basically explaining how, like, she was like, these people, when you're doing this kind of stuff and like pushing this, shoving this down people's throats, you're taking somebody who, like, maybe was like a really religious conservative type.
[02:40:58]  Maybe 10 years ago, who's come around now, maybe they made some gay friends, they understand it now.
[02:41:04]  Then they get slammed in the face with this, and now they're taking a U turn, going right back in the other direction and showing this, like shoving this transgender, crazy, wacko, and shit down people's throats is making people just do a U turn.
[02:41:19]  It's building a barrier to where people are like, I don't want anything to do with this anymore.
[02:41:23]  And it's dragging the normal gay and lesbian people through the mud.
[02:41:26]  Yeah, it's beyond, I don't want to have anything to do with this anymore.
[02:41:29]  It's, I have to.
[02:41:29]  Fight this at any cost.
[02:41:31]  And I am, I like, I'm kind of one of those people in the sense that I would never raise a child in a state where there are any laws on the books that in any way give anyone power to give my kids puberty blockers outside of my control 100, like not even a chance.
[02:41:47]  And so, like, I see this.
[02:41:49]  Aaron, is it Aaron?
[02:41:50]  Might be Aaron, top one.
[02:41:51]  Yeah, I see it as an existential threat.
[02:41:53]  And I have like an ally to gay people and even to trans people.
[02:41:55]  I think that adults should be able to do what they want.
[02:41:57]  I don't care.

=== Bill Burns Palantir Establishment (15:57) ===

[02:41:58]  Just like once you start.
[02:42:00]  Pushing it to children, that's where like people that were allies to the cause are suddenly like, I have to oppose you.
[02:42:07]  Like, I, and I think that there's this weird, they're intentionally trying to keep the whole LGBTQ tribe as one tribe so they can take them all with them.
[02:42:15]  But it's like, no, dude, your movement is getting co opted, just like Black Lives Matter was co opted.
[02:42:21]  Like, Black Lives Matter started out probably, I think, as like the real thing, and then it clearly became something else.
[02:42:28]  Yes.
[02:42:28]  And I think that happens to a lot of social movements these days.
[02:42:31]  And I think that sometimes it is intelligence agencies.
[02:42:33]  I think sometimes it's other things.
[02:42:36]  Yeah.
[02:42:37]  If you're the CIA, you wouldn't, I don't think you'd want, it's not in the country's best interest to have everybody be reliant on medicine and reliant on doctors to survive for the rest of their lives.
[02:42:48]  It's counterintuitive to having a strong country.
[02:42:51]  You don't want your.
[02:42:52]  I don't think the CIA is incentivized for us to have a strong country.
[02:42:55]  Really?
[02:42:56]  No, I don't think so.
[02:42:58]  I don't think that the CIA is even incentivized to keep America healthy and strong anymore.
[02:43:06]  In theory, they are.
[02:43:07]  Like in theory, the CIA's incentive is for America to remain the number one global superpower in the world.
[02:43:15]  Not necessarily.
[02:43:16]  Do you know who runs the CIA right now?
[02:43:21]  Yeah, I forget their name.
[02:43:22]  Who is it?
[02:43:22]  His name is, I'm forgetting his name.
[02:43:25]  I know his face really well because I did a piece.
[02:43:27]  William Burns.
[02:43:28]  Yeah, William Burns.
[02:43:28]  Is it Bill Burns?
[02:43:29]  It's okay.
[02:43:29]  Bill Burns.
[02:43:30]  Do you know that he is a friend of Epstein?
[02:43:34]  I've probably heard that somewhere.
[02:43:35]  So he was an ambassador for the U.S.
[02:43:37]  He was an ambassador to Russia.
[02:43:39]  He was an ambassador.
[02:43:40]  He had a very long diplomatic career, very successful guy.
[02:43:43]  Pull up Bill Burns' profile.
[02:43:45]  Yeah, his Wikipedia page has it.
[02:43:47]  And when he finished being the ambassador to Russia, I believe it was in 2009 or 2013, he needed a new job.
[02:43:57]  And he went to Jeffrey Epstein for help getting a job.
[02:44:00]  And Jeffrey Epstein helped him get a job at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, which he was at until he became the CIA director.
[02:44:09]  And the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace is one of these globalist think tanks, pretty similar to.
[02:44:13]  Like the Council on Foreign Relations, it's like very kind of sus.
[02:44:17]  And so, currently, what I'm saying is Bill Burns, the one who was tied to the school that he went to, that school that he attended in New York that had all those crazy like elites that went there, all like the wealthy people in New York, all their kids went to this school that Epstein went to Dalton School.
[02:44:31]  The Dalton School, yeah.
[02:44:32]  Did Bill Burns go to the Dalton School?
[02:44:33]  Bill Burns is that would be crazy.
[02:44:36]  I didn't know that.
[02:44:36]  If he did, that's crazy.
[02:44:38]  Maybe I'm thinking, I might be thinking of somebody else.
[02:44:43]  But regardless, what I'm saying is that like, Bill Burns, maybe he's incentivized to keep America strong, but like, I don't know if that's necessarily the top of his mind.
[02:44:52]  Like, I feel like he's probably sexually blackmailed.
[02:44:55]  There it is.
[02:44:55]  What's that say?
[02:44:56]  The documents indicate that Epstein had three scheduled meetings.
[02:45:01]  That's not him.
[02:45:02]  I don't think he attended Dalton's court.
[02:45:04]  I'm thinking of somebody else who was.
[02:45:05]  I would remember that.
[02:45:07]  No, I don't think it was.
[02:45:09]  There were some other CIA or FBI big shots that went there.
[02:45:12]  So, Antony Blinken, his stepdad was like, All up.
[02:45:17]  His stepdad is a whole freaking rabbit hole.
[02:45:20]  Yeah.
[02:45:22]  Like, there are a lot of people kind of at the top of the intelligence state right now that, like, honestly don't really seem to have America's best interest in mind.
[02:45:29]  And, like, if they did, they would close our border, for example.
[02:45:32]  Like, they would have closed our border like 10 years ago if they did have America's best interest in mind.
[02:45:36]  And even if they do have sort of America's best interest in mind, like, our person, like, our country's, our regular people's best interest is super different than our state's, like, Then they're the club's best interest, right?
[02:45:51]  In the sense that.
[02:45:51]  Yeah, I agree with you.
[02:45:52]  I think their club is the most important thing to them, and the American government is the most important thing to them, not the American citizens.
[02:45:58]  And so, where we started was with a medicated populace.
[02:46:00]  And actually, it's like way easier for the club to stay the club if we are medicated to death and if we're all sick and can barely get by and just producing.
[02:46:09]  But the thing is, we don't even need to produce for that much longer because AI robots are about to be literally walking around in our households.
[02:46:14]  Do you see an Optimus from Tesla?
[02:46:18]  I think so, yeah.
[02:46:19]  Dude, the robot that looks just like iRobot.
[02:46:21]  And it's like now it's walking upstairs and shit and like caring.
[02:46:24]  It's like, oh my God.
[02:46:25]  Like, we are literally within five years of iRobot robots in our homes, like with full on AI.
[02:46:33]  Dude, I can't wait.
[02:46:35]  Dude, I don't even know what to think.
[02:46:37]  Also, what do you make about this whole narrative with Trump's beef with the CIA?
[02:46:43]  I don't know how real that is.
[02:46:45]  I don't even know.
[02:46:46]  I think that's a pretended narrative because he made who's the girl that he made the head of the CIA?
[02:46:54]  I don't know, actually.
[02:46:55]  She was the girl, she was the woman who burned all the torture documents.
[02:46:59]  Oh, interesting.
[02:47:00]  She was the White House, the staff, the White House chief of staff, basically.
[02:47:04]  Gina Haspel?
[02:47:04]  Gina Haspel.
[02:47:05]  Gina Haspel.
[02:47:06]  I've not done any digs on her.
[02:47:07]  She was the one person, the White House went to her and said, Do not destroy any of the documents.
[02:47:11]  Then the CIA director, I think it was Jose Rodriguez, went to her and said, You destroy everything.
[02:47:16]  And she did it.
[02:47:18]  So if there's any CIA officer or operative or anyone in that agency who's going to do what you say, it's Gina Haspel.
[02:47:29]  And Trump put her as the head of the agency.
[02:47:33]  Trump put a lot of weird people as the head of a lot of weird places that, like, Don't line up with what the right and the Trumpers and like they would all have us believe about it.
[02:47:47]  I just don't know what to make of him.
[02:47:48]  And I'm not super optimistic.
[02:47:50]  I want to, like, to be honest, the world would be so great if all the Q people were right about everything.
[02:47:57]  Like, that'd be badass.
[02:47:58]  Like, most people I think don't even realize what they claim.
[02:48:01]  But basically, what they claim is that Trump is part of sort of like a deep intelligence agency, like anti CIA sting operation that is like.
[02:48:09]  And he wants to like take out all the Trump.
[02:48:11]  And all the traffickers.
[02:48:12]  Yeah, and not even that he's necessarily in charge of it.
[02:48:14]  He's just sort of like an asset of essentially a secret global intelligence agency that is basically taking out the traffickers and the predators and the government officials and the deep state and everything.
[02:48:23]  And it's like, oh, that'd be so badass.
[02:48:26]  Like, yeah.
[02:48:27]  But, like, do I see evidence that supports that?
[02:48:31]  There's a lot of coincidences, but it's like, that's not evidence.
[02:48:36]  Like, that's not enough for me to watch and be like, that's funny and entertaining.
[02:48:40]  And it's like, because that's the thing about conspiracy theories.
[02:48:42]  Is I like to be aware of them all, like the Pete's Gate thing, for example.
[02:48:45]  I like to be aware of it so that as new stuff comes out, I know how to sort of like, what does this fit into and what does this debunk and prove and whatever.
[02:48:54]  But like, I don't know if that's true.
[02:48:56]  I don't see any evidence right now.
[02:48:57]  Like, and so that would be sweet.
[02:49:00]  But today, Trump looks a lot more like, if I had to pick a side of the spectrum, he looks a lot more like a CIA op than like some deep state, you know, killer or whatever.
[02:49:10]  Yeah.
[02:49:10]  Cause I mean, he could have dismantled the CIA, but when he was president in 2016, 2017, he could have done a lot of things.
[02:49:16]  But, you know, he did not.
[02:49:17]  He went in the opposite direction of that.
[02:49:19]  Yeah.
[02:49:20]  My fear is that whether he's complicit or not, they handled him so well.
[02:49:24]  Like they used him to polarize this nation.
[02:49:26]  They used him to create this like absolute derangement amongst the Democratic Party.
[02:49:30]  And they used him to create this absolutely like fervorous derangement in the Republican Party once he lost in 2020.
[02:49:36]  And like, so in a lot of ways, even if he wasn't complicit, he got played by the media, by the state, by just sort of like the establishment as it is.
[02:49:45]  And they're doing just fine today because of it.
[02:49:48]  And so I'm worried that regardless of whether he's literally in on it or not, they actually want him to win this time around.
[02:49:55]  And I'm worried that it looks like they did.
[02:49:57]  It looks like everything they did, fucking show trials, making him a martyr.
[02:50:01]  Yeah, like literally the fucking assassination thing.
[02:50:04]  Like that, if that, I thought after that happened, I was like, holy, it's over.
[02:50:08]  I'm like, there's no fucking way anybody could beat Trump after this.
[02:50:11]  And now, like, it's like we're fucking.
[02:50:13]  And then we found all these fake polls that are showing that Kamala Harris has like 50% of the vote all of a sudden.
[02:50:18]  Yeah.
[02:50:18]  Going from like, 3% of her party's vote, you know, four or six years ago, whatever, to like, what?
[02:50:24]  Right.
[02:50:25]  And like, at the very least, when it comes to like, obviously, there's a difference between their, when they become president and like their cabinet and who they pick to run the White House versus their campaign and what they run on.
[02:50:39]  But like, if you just want to compare the campaigns of Kamala and Trump, okay, if he's a liar and if he is only interested in himself, at the very, very least, at least he's pretending to be anti-war.
[02:50:56]  And at least he's pretending to support the grassroots.
[02:50:59]  At least he's pretending to get behind Bitcoin.
[02:51:02]  They're not doing, they're not even pretending.
[02:51:04]  No, no, they're like openly pushing socialist policies.
[02:51:06]  Yes.
[02:51:06]  Like they're openly pushing, not just socialist policies, but just kind of like, I don't even know how to get into how, I mean, my contention is not like I don't trust what either of them say.
[02:51:20]  And so I tend to look behind them at who is supporting them, right?
[02:51:24]  Peter Thiel.
[02:51:25]  Exactly.
[02:51:26]  And Trump does not openly.
[02:51:27]  An A on that report.
[02:51:28]  I was hoping we were going to talk about Peter Thiel.
[02:51:30]  But Peter Thiel is like one of the darkest mofos on the planet.
[02:51:34]  And his recent Joe Rogan appearance was like, that kind of felt like a humiliation ritual.
[02:51:39]  That kind of felt like, what's going on, Joe?
[02:51:41]  Why?
[02:51:41]  What?
[02:51:42]  Like, you're not believing this shit, are you?
[02:51:44]  That felt so scripted.
[02:51:45]  But did you watch it?
[02:51:46]  Not all of it.
[02:51:47]  No, just part of it.
[02:51:48]  Did you see the New York Times article that came out about the CEO of Palantir, Alex Karp?
[02:51:53]  No, but Karp is a.
[02:51:54]  Pull up that article.
[02:51:55]  Yeah.
[02:51:56]  Karp is.
[02:51:57]  I didn't know anything about him until I read that.
[02:51:59]  Yeah.
[02:52:00]  Most people don't.
[02:52:00]  Long article.
[02:52:01]  I don't know a ton about him, but it was earlier on in all of this that I started to dig around in Palantir's Dirty Laundry and Carp and Teal, obviously, were the top of that list.
[02:52:11]  The top of the New York Times one.
[02:52:12]  Yeah, three days ago.
[02:52:13]  Three days ago.
[02:52:14]  Nope.
[02:52:14]  I also tend to not even read New York Times articles because I don't have their paywall.
[02:52:18]  That one.
[02:52:19]  And they learned how to beat the 11 foot ladder or whatever that was.
[02:52:24]  This one's not behind the paywall.
[02:52:25]  Oh, nice.
[02:52:27]  So, yeah, man.
[02:52:29]  He's super interesting.
[02:52:30]  So apparently he's self proclaimed progressive.
[02:52:34]  Very progressive, unlike Peter.
[02:52:35]  He says they went to college together and they would always go to the bar and debate politics, like this left wing teal versus a left wing carp.
[02:52:44]  And they somehow became friends and respected each other because they had these crazy debates with each other.
[02:52:50]  And after 9 11, I guess Peter was like, hey, man, we could apply some of this technology we used to PayPal to catch terrorists.
[02:53:01]  And he saw an opportunity there and he's like, I'm going to make you the CEO of the company.
[02:53:05]  But like Carp, he's into like Kundalini yoga and Tai Chi.
[02:53:10]  And like he's like a he's also like a he's donating tons of money to Kamala Harris.
[02:53:16]  He like openly says in this article, he's supporting Kamala Harris, even though Peter Thiel is supporting not directly Trump, but he's supporting his vice president.
[02:53:24]  Forget his name.
[02:53:28]  Vance.
[02:53:28]  JD Vance.
[02:53:28]  JD Vance.
[02:53:29]  Yeah.
[02:53:30]  That's how much I like JD Vance.
[02:53:32]  So like, I mean, how would you better represent the CIA?
[02:53:38]  And they're sort of like.
[02:53:39]  That's the thing, though.
[02:53:40]  So he's like, he projects himself to be like this progressive liberal who is, I think he's half black.
[02:53:48]  What?
[02:53:49]  Yeah, he's half black.
[02:53:50]  And he's, I forget the other half.
[02:53:53]  Anyways, he's half black.
[02:53:55]  I think it's like some weird country that he's heard of.
[02:53:58]  Yeah, he's half black, half something else.
[02:53:59]  Maybe it's Jewish.
[02:54:01]  I kind of think it is.
[02:54:02]  I didn't want to say it before I look it up, but.
[02:54:06]  But like on the other side of the coin, he's like, He has very different ideologies than typical Silicon Valley billionaires who are, you could call them more of like woke, anti-America.
[02:54:19]  He is very, very like interventionist.
[02:54:23]  Very, very interventionalist.
[02:54:24]  Like he thinks wars, like he thinks we should be over there intervening in Israel and taking control of the world.
[02:54:31]  Well, he is the son of a Jewish clinician, pediatrician, and an African American mother.
[02:54:36]  There you go.
[02:54:37]  So he's super.
[02:54:39]  One thing I do know about him is he's a super Zionist.
[02:54:41]  Okay.
[02:54:41]  As is Peter Thiel.
[02:54:42]  Right, right, right.
[02:54:44]  Do you know?
[02:54:44]  I mean, I assume his stance on Ukraine is also like, we got to be in Ukraine.
[02:54:47]  I assume.
[02:54:48]  I don't think they talk about it in the article, but he's like, he's very much like, The other people in Silicon Valley, like Apple and Google, they're like, we're not going to like they did.
[02:54:59]  I think Google got some pushback for doing a deal with the government with the Pentagon.
[02:55:04]  Remember when Google was doing something with the Pentagon with like tracking drone or analyzing drone footage or something like that?
[02:55:08]  Before people realized how much Google does with the Pentagon.
[02:55:11]  Right.
[02:55:11]  And then Google pulled out of that because of the PR.
[02:55:14]  Yeah.
[02:55:14]  And then Palantir swooped right in and took it.
[02:55:16]  He's like, he's like, it's so.
[02:55:19]  He was pointing out in the article, like they were interviewing him about it.
[02:55:21]  And he was like, it's.
[02:55:23]  A paradox that these billionaires who get to live in America and make all this money in Silicon Valley and benefit from being in this country are refusing to help our military because our military is what makes this country and what gives us this opportunity to be to live the way we live and to operate these businesses and live these lavish lifestyles.
[02:55:44]  So that he goes, I'm going to support the military and I'm going to support making this country the number one superpower in the world.
[02:55:51]  He is dying.
[02:55:53]  He's literally, to be fair, at least respect for being, yeah, you know.
[02:55:56]  Upfront about that because that is what they are all pushing, just in their own kind of like subversive, weird way.
[02:56:01]  Yes.
[02:56:02]  They just, you know, are trying to pretend like that's not who they are.
[02:56:04]  Yeah.
[02:56:05]  But yeah, Palantir has been CIA through and through basically since the start.
[02:56:09]  And man, it has not changed one bit.
[02:56:12]  In 2011, I think the anonymous group hacked Palantir and they found out that Palantir was a part of a disinformation campaign to smear WikiLeaks.
[02:56:24]  I've not looked into this leak.
[02:56:25]  That sounds freaking cool.
[02:56:27]  Yeah.
[02:56:27]  I don't know if you can find something on that, but find a Uh, anonymous Palantir WikiLeaks, they tried to.
[02:56:34]  It was a misinformation campaign to smear WikiLeaks supporters and to smear Glenn Greenwald, I think.
[02:56:39]  Yeah, so they're doing a lot of, yep.
[02:56:44]  Um, yeah, but yeah, WikiLeaks broke cracked open a set of eggs that like was unique in so many ways.
[02:56:54]  Yep, interesting.
[02:56:56]  I'm gonna dig this guy, Alex, dude.
[02:56:57]  He's super interesting, yeah.
[02:57:00]  And he's one of those ones that I think a lot of people don't know about, like a lot of regular folks, us, we don't know about him.
[02:57:05]  But he's wielded so much influence in those upper circles.
[02:57:09]  And I think a lot of us don't think about how their acts are to influence us in some ways.
[02:57:17]  But I think a lot of times their acts are also to influence each other.
[02:57:20]  Because, for example, Alice Carp and Peter Thiel are way closer to the primary intelligence agendas than a lot of the other celebrities and a lot of the other billionaires because they have direct contracts with the CIA, they have direct contracts with those guys.
[02:57:34]  And so they have a level of read in and a level of.
[02:57:37]  Like aligned interests with the CIA is just one example that many of these other tech CEOs and like people further removed, like Hollywood celebrities, don't have.
[02:57:47]  But they're still walking in the same circles and going to the same parties and sort of like, so that group think is real for those folks as well as it is for us.

=== Cyber Fraud Morgan Deep State (06:16) ===

[02:57:56]  So I think that Carp is a good example of one who plays a pretty interesting and maybe dark role in all that.
[02:58:04]  There's a quote in the New York Times article where he literally said, he goes, Yeah, saving lives.
[02:58:12]  and taking lives is super interesting.
[02:58:15]  That was his quote.
[02:58:15]  It's interesting.
[02:58:17]  Yeah.
[02:58:17]  That's super sociopathic.
[02:58:20]  Super sociopathic on the spectrum.
[02:58:22]  Like he's really good.
[02:58:23]  He goes with the territory.
[02:58:23]  He's really introverted.
[02:58:25]  I mean, that's how a lot of those guys are.
[02:58:26]  Yeah.
[02:58:27]  That's like kind of how, like, how else are you going to become a successful tech entrepreneur that's like a super mega genius?
[02:58:32]  Dude, did you hear about the boat that sank yesterday with the CEO of Morgan's, not the CEO, the chairman of Morgan Stanley on it, along with this tech entrepreneur, super, dude.
[02:58:44]  So I was just making a post about this in the parking lot before we started this because yesterday the news broke that this super mega yacht, this luxury mega yacht sank off the coast of Sicily.
[02:58:57]  And aboard.
[02:58:58]  So it was a party.
[02:59:00]  It was a free, like, get out of jail party for this British tech entrepreneur who's like the Bill Gates of the UK, is what they call him.
[02:59:12]  Because he had just beat these charges that he'd been fighting since 2011.
[02:59:15]  The US had extradited him from the UK to face these charges of corruption or fraud because he had invented this company that he had sold to HP, Hewlett Packard, for like $11 billion.
[02:59:26]  And they said that he had totally cooked the books.
[02:59:28]  And it was all fraudulent.
[02:59:29]  It was actually only worth like $3 billion.
[02:59:31]  And so they, anyways, years and years of legal battles.
[02:59:34]  And he just beat the charges, which is like a 0.5% chance of beating federal charges like that.
[02:59:39]  So, A, that's crazy.
[02:59:41]  But he beats them.
[02:59:41]  He goes out on this party, and then his yacht gets hit by a freak, like tornado slash water spout geyser that like cracks the mast and sinks the ship in the middle of a freak storm when there's like, it's anchored off the coast, like a mile or so off the coast.
[02:59:56]  And there's other boats all around.
[02:59:58]  And the first responders were actually a boat next door that's just like, You know, stabilize itself with its motor and then realize that the, oh shit, that boat sank.
[03:00:05]  And they went and started rescuing people.
[03:00:06]  But all of, like, a bunch of the crew got rescued, but basically all the important people died.
[03:00:11]  And one of them was this CEO, founder of this company.
[03:00:15]  The other one was the guy from Morgan Stanley, along with like a couple of his lawyers and stuff.
[03:00:20]  But it gets weirder.
[03:00:22]  How long did that beat the guy in the red shirt right there in that photo?
[03:00:25]  That is one of the other founders of that company that was then in charge of this other.
[03:00:31]  And he was a part of the lawsuit, this fraud lawsuit that they just beat.
[03:00:35]  He gets hit by a car while he's out running two days ago or three days ago, right?
[03:00:39]  Like last week.
[03:00:40]  So they beat the case like four or three or four weeks ago.
[03:00:43]  I'm approximating here.
[03:00:44]  And then he gets hit by a car last week.
[03:00:47]  And then his boat sinks in this crazy freak waterspout just yesterday.
[03:00:52]  And the companies, so the technology that they had developed, the original technology that the guy at the bottom developed, this famous Bill Gates like guy, it is like an AI software that, And remember, it was invented back in 2008, 9, 10, 11, kind of like they sold in 2011.
[03:01:10]  It was an AI software that allows AI to comb through and analyze and organize data from videos and audios and live streams.
[03:01:23]  So it's like back in the early days of, you know, before we even knew what AI was about to do, and it was the ability for AI to monitor our videos and to surveil us through our videos and our live streams and all of our, they had a special term for it, like real or like, I don't know.
[03:01:39]  Basically, to analyze organic human interaction on the internet through all the media formats and to surveil it and track it and act upon it.
[03:01:49]  He invented that technology and then he sold it to HP for all this money.
[03:01:53]  And that's what this fraud case is all about.
[03:01:54]  The dude that got killed running by the car in the red shirt there, he had left that company to run the spinoff company called Dark Water, Dark Town.
[03:02:08]  It's like, okay, I got to research that.
[03:02:09]  It's like, what is this name?
[03:02:10]  Why are you calling it that?
[03:02:11]  And it's basically spinning off that technology to use AI to defend against cyber attacks.
[03:02:17]  And the way that, and this is just basically right off the Wikipedia page in layman terms, but it's basically using AI to get the base state of any network of like, how does this network normally operate?
[03:02:28]  And I'll analyze it, analyze it, analyze it, and get the normal version of it.
[03:02:31]  And so anytime there's an irregularity, I can sense that.
[03:02:34]  And they would use that to defend against cyber attacks.
[03:02:37]  And what they claimed, their company claimed, is that they could defend against zero day exploits.
[03:02:42]  And I don't know if you know about cyber attacks and cyber war, but right, if you could stop zero day exploits, Suddenly, the entire NSA stockpile of zero days is worthless.
[03:02:51]  The entire Israeli stockpile is worthless.
[03:02:53]  The Russian stockpile, everyone suddenly, and I'm sure that it's like it wouldn't be able to defend against all of them.
[03:02:58]  But in theory, that technology opens the door to defending against all of them, right?
[03:03:02]  So suddenly, billions and billions and billions of dollars of cyber weapons have just been made useless by that company.
[03:03:09]  And he gets killed by a car, he gets killed in this boat.
[03:03:12]  It's like, what's going on?
[03:03:14]  And they're not clueless to this.
[03:03:16]  They're going, they're like sending teams to investigate the boat crash, obviously, because that's like super suspicious.
[03:03:22]  But it's like just such an interesting, similar like meeting of where highly advanced tech meets with the interests of these various like deep government agencies and like suddenly weird shit starts to happen.
[03:03:34]  And anytime you get those, all those different components, it's like, I have questions.
[03:03:39]  Yeah.
[03:03:40]  Because, you know, we know that they will do crazy things.
[03:03:42]  Like we know they have crazy technology.
[03:03:44]  Like the CIA has like in the Cold War, they had like a gun that could shoot a poisoned icicle at someone.
[03:03:50]  Like, you know, about the dart gun that would like shoot poison at you, but then the dart would melt.
[03:03:54]  So it would never be.
[03:03:55]  I never looked into it.
[03:03:56]  I know they had a lot of crazy shit like kill Castro.
[03:03:58]  Yeah, like these crazy assassination weapons, these crazy technologies.
[03:04:00]  It's like, and they want all these crazy, and the guys are developing this crazy AI technology stuff.
[03:04:06]  And it's just like, and I assume if I had to guess, it's like, okay, beat them with lawfare first, put them away in prison, right?

=== Cancel Conspiracy Shampoo Video (02:08) ===

[03:04:12]  That'll shut them up.
[03:04:13]  Then we'll get their technology.
[03:04:15]  It's all taken care of.
[03:04:17]  The other one, the AI company that the guy in the red shirt was doing, this like cyber defense company, they were under short seller attacks and there were companies trying to buy them out.
[03:04:26]  So it's just like, It just kind of hit me.
[03:04:29]  It broke yesterday and I saw it and was like, man, this has all the markings of this ongoing battle for sort of control over technology.
[03:04:37]  Yeah.
[03:04:38]  And, bro, yeah.
[03:04:41]  If you want America to have all the number one tech and you want to be the number one superpower in the world, sometimes you got to sacrifice a few people.
[03:04:46]  Sometimes you got to crack a few eggs to make a giant technological AI omelet, dude.
[03:04:53]  Ian, dude, thank you so much for doing this, brother.
[03:04:54]  We just did like three hours and 15 minutes.
[03:04:56]  Yeah.
[03:04:57]  Thank you.
[03:04:57]  You, man.
[03:04:58]  That was gorgeous.
[03:04:58]  I knew this was going to be so much fun, man.
[03:05:00]  Once I saw what kind of stuff you do and the people you have on, I was like, oh, man, this is going to be great.
[03:05:04]  This was fun.
[03:05:05]  Thanks, man.
[03:05:05]  I'll link all your shit below, but tell people that are just listening where they can find you on Twitter and your YouTube and all that.
[03:05:11]  Yeah.
[03:05:12]  My TikTok is Cancel This Clothing Company.
[03:05:13]  That's where I'm biggest, but that turns into on X, my handle is Cancel Cloco.
[03:05:18]  And I just go by Ian Carroll, and I'm going to just start rebranding everything to Ian Carroll.
[03:05:22]  Like, I've got a YouTube and a Rumble and all that under Cancel This Conspiracy.
[03:05:26]  But eventually, you're just going to be able to find me everywhere as no, not that.
[03:05:29]  Cancel Cloco.
[03:05:30]  Canceled Coloco.
[03:05:32]  On X or Ian Carroll or Cancel This Clothing Company.
[03:05:39]  Just type in Ian Carroll.
[03:05:41]  Oh, you're on YouTube.
[03:05:42]  On YouTube, it's Cancel This Conspiracy.
[03:05:45]  But yeah, Ian Carroll Shampoo.
[03:05:46]  That's because I'm the shampoo guy and people are searching for me for my TikTok shampoo video.
[03:05:49]  You have a shampoo video?
[03:05:51]  Yeah, I broke the video.
[03:05:52]  Oh, there you go.
[03:05:52]  Look, you popped up for me.
[03:05:53]  What the fuck?
[03:05:54]  Bingo.
[03:05:54]  Oh, because you typed in Cancel This Conspiracy.
[03:05:56]  That's why.
[03:05:57]  Yeah, under my name, I'm not there yet, but I'm going to just rebrand everything to Ian Carroll.
[03:06:01]  Good move.
[03:06:01]  Yeah, because it's just, it's the way.
[03:06:03]  And once I did that on X, it just made so much more sense.
[03:06:07]  Cool, bro.
[03:06:08]  Yeah.
[03:06:08]  I appreciate it, man.
[03:06:09]  Yeah, I appreciate it.
[03:06:10]  This was super fun.
[03:06:11]  Yeah, I'm going to start binge watching all of your content so I can learn from all the cool people you've talked to, man.
[03:06:16]  That's cool.
[03:06:17]  Yeah, we should definitely do this again.
[03:06:18]  We've got to get you back down to Florida.
[03:06:19]  Totally.
[03:06:19]  All right.
[03:06:20]  Good night, everybody.