Danny Jones Podcast - #249 - CIA Spy Breaks Down Trump Assassination Attempt | Matt Cox & John Kiriakou
Aired: 2024-07-16
Duration: 02:32:41


=== Trump's Wallet Heist (14:39) ===

[00:00:07]  I'm watching the video of Trump grabbing his ear.
[00:00:10]  I'm thinking, that's when I slip my hand into his pocket and take his wallet.
[00:00:14]  Like, I mean, that's my qualification.
[00:00:17]  We are going to have.
[00:00:18]  If he were to go down, we run up his credit cards immediately.
[00:00:21]  And by the way, yeah, we're going to have former legendary CIA agent John Kerryaku, who was also in prison, like you, but he was only in there for two years, put in there by the CIA.
[00:00:35]  Oh, he was.
[00:00:37]  Oh, okay.
[00:00:38]  Yeah.
[00:00:38]  Not like in another country.
[00:00:40]  In the United States.
[00:00:40]  In the United States.
[00:00:41]  Oh, that's nice.
[00:00:42]  Yes, exactly.
[00:00:43]  What did he do for that?
[00:00:44]  What did he do for that?
[00:00:46]  Well, he was one of the guys responsible for taking down one of the top guys in Al Qaeda named Abu Zubaydah.
[00:00:55]  And he was a part of a raid that captured this guy and eventually killed.
[00:00:59]  No, he's in Guantanamo.
[00:01:00]  They never killed him.
[00:01:00]  But the story about how he captured the guy is crazy in, I think it was Pakistan.
[00:01:06]  And John's been through a lot of shit.
[00:01:08]  And eventually, that's when the enhanced interrogation shit happened, started happening with the CIA, where they set up these black sites around the world to basically torture people and get information from terrorists.
[00:01:21]  And John was blamed for it because he was the guy inside the CIA complaining about it.
[00:01:27]  Like, why are we doing this?
[00:01:27]  This is against the law.
[00:01:29]  This violates the Geneva Convention.
[00:01:31]  And they're like, stop bitching, John.
[00:01:33]  Stop bitching.
[00:01:33]  And then somehow it came out.
[00:01:39]  And a reporter contacted him from, I think it was ABC, and said, John, Bush is on TV saying, Yeah, look, there's the photo of the Super Suck Bullet.
[00:01:49]  Yeah.
[00:01:51]  Bush was on TV basically saying that, talking about the enhanced interrogation stuff and saying that there was a CIA operative who leaked it.
[00:01:59]  And then John thought he was talking about him.
[00:02:01]  So John's like, F it, I'm gonna go on live TV and talk about it.
[00:02:04]  So John went on TV and blew up the whole enhanced interrogation shit the CIA was doing.
[00:02:09]  And then they got him for espionage, something like that, some bullshit crime, put him in prison.
[00:02:16]  What is going on?
[00:02:17]  But John knows a lot about this stuff.
[00:02:18]  And essentially, so like, Julian's been talking to his paramilitary folks, and I've talked to a couple guys.
[00:02:25]  And, you know, the one thing that seems to be insane about this whole thing is that they didn't put anybody on those roofs that were 300 feet, 150 yards away.
[00:02:39]  And, as we sit here in our air-conditioned room with our microphones, we can, you know yeah, we can tell everything we can, we can critique, we do know exactly.
[00:02:47]  We can critique what they did wrong and uh, let them know that they need to be better.
[00:02:52]  Yeah, this is the.
[00:02:53]  This is the video.
[00:02:54]  It didn't have all that around it though, like it was a very much clearer video, I think but yeah, watch this head tilt.
[00:03:02]  Yeah, that would have boom right there.
[00:03:05]  How crazy is that dude?
[00:03:07]  I tell you what that would have done.
[00:03:08]  It would have if it hadn't killed him.
[00:03:09]  It would have taken him out of the race.
[00:03:11]  I'll tell you that.
[00:03:12]  Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, that would have took out his whole visual cortex of his brain.
[00:03:15]  Yeah, I think he would have been a vegetable.
[00:03:17]  That's not good.
[00:03:18]  If it didn't kill him, it definitely would have fucked him up permanently.
[00:03:21]  Yeah.
[00:03:21]  Yeah, to be honest with you, let's face it, the bullet definitely would have killed him.
[00:03:24]  It probably would have gone through the initial.
[00:03:27]  It would have gone right through his temple.
[00:03:28]  Well, no, no, no, because that was the side here.
[00:03:30]  That's the side.
[00:03:31]  I'm saying it would have gone into his skull and probably, you know, jumped around inside his skull.
[00:03:39]  Like it may not have exited his skull.
[00:03:40]  It bounced off his skull.
[00:03:42]  It would have torb his brain out.
[00:03:44]  It'd be scrambled eggs.
[00:03:44]  Yep.
[00:03:47]  It is so crazy how that head turned to so last minute.
[00:03:50]  Listen, I remember.
[00:03:50]  It was the hand of God.
[00:03:52]  Listen, Jess says that.
[00:03:53]  I know.
[00:03:54]  She does.
[00:03:55]  So we watched this, and at first I was like, I went, I think that clipped his ear.
[00:04:02]  And Jess was like, No, maybe it's, does he have an earpiece?
[00:04:06]  Like, you know, because we didn't know right away.
[00:04:08]  We're still watching it as it's happening.
[00:04:10]  And then when he stands up and he's got the blood on his face and starts pumping his fist, it was like, Oh, wow, he was hit.
[00:04:17]  Right.
[00:04:17]  He was definitely hit.
[00:04:17]  Because everybody, even the commentators were like, Was he hit?
[00:04:20]  Like, I don't, is this?
[00:04:22]  But when he stood up with the blood, it was like, Holy shit.
[00:04:25]  So, what are the conventions?
[00:04:26]  So, what are all the theories on what happened on the news?
[00:04:30]  You've been paying more attention to this than I have.
[00:04:32]  What's your buddy's name?
[00:04:33]  Forrest.
[00:04:33]  Yeah, Forrest.
[00:04:34]  Forrest.
[00:04:35]  There's a whole group of people on the internet that are insisting that the Trump campaign itself hired some sniper to take a shot at him and just to clip his ear.
[00:04:48]  Yeah.
[00:04:49]  Like, that is no theatrics.
[00:04:51]  Like, this will push him over the edge.
[00:04:52]  Like, he's already over the edge.
[00:04:54]  Like, this isn't, not just that.
[00:04:56]  Any sniper will tell you, listen, The wind blows wrong.
[00:05:00]  It can always be off half an inch to an inch, whatever.
[00:05:03]  And the fact that you're going to get him to turn his head at exactly the same.
[00:05:06]  Trust me, when they, as he was turning his head, and that dude pulled the trigger, when that guy pulled the trigger, he'd probably still hit him.
[00:05:12]  He's turning his head.
[00:05:13]  I mean, that's what, that bullet's traveling.
[00:05:15]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:05:17]  I mean, there's just nobody in their right mind that would hire a sniper to fire, you know, at their head.
[00:05:23]  It's just insanity.
[00:05:24]  It's amazing how there's so many people that believe that is true.
[00:05:30]  It's that's Trump derangement syndrome at its finest.
[00:05:32]  Then there's the other ones that know that there was a real sniper that tried to take him out, and the kid's a patsy.
[00:05:38]  That's my favorite because that's very much the Oswald, you know, he's a patsy, you know, Lee Harvey Oswald, who was, you know, people say like he didn't shoot Kennedy at all.
[00:05:49]  Right.
[00:05:49]  So yeah, he was the fall guy.
[00:05:50]  Right.
[00:05:51]  He's just the fall guy.
[00:05:52]  And honestly, what a great fall guy.
[00:05:55]  Like he is perfect.
[00:05:56]  Like if you really look at it, like is there a chance?
[00:05:59]  Like, yeah, it seems like this possible there is a definite.
[00:06:02]  A chance, like nobody's ever gonna know for sure.
[00:06:03]  Why was he perfect?
[00:06:05]  Because he'd been to the Soviet Union, then they let him back in, right?
[00:06:10]  Then that you know, it's almost like he's being moved around.
[00:06:13]  And then the fact that when he tried to redefect through Mexico City right before, like a week before, right?
[00:06:19]  But then the last minute, so he gets a job at the Texas Depot Book Depository, and at the last minute, they change the route of the car to go by the Texas Book Depository to be on the route.
[00:06:34]  Like that to me.
[00:06:36]  That's to me the most compelling part.
[00:06:39]  Where it's like, so we've got a guy that looks like a perfect assassin.
[00:06:45]  You know, he's got the, he sees a, you know, we can blame it on his views of communism, everything.
[00:06:50]  Let's just have the car go right by it.
[00:06:51]  We'll have another sniper shoot him.
[00:06:53]  We'll blame it on him.
[00:06:54]  Right.
[00:06:55]  And hopefully he'll just be killed.
[00:06:56]  Hopefully the local cops will probably kill him.
[00:06:58]  Yeah.
[00:06:58]  But they don't.
[00:06:59]  He gets found.
[00:06:59]  He gets grabbed.
[00:07:00]  Okay.
[00:07:00]  Well, now he's got to die some other way.
[00:07:02]  The Ruby thing is where it kind of breaks down.
[00:07:04]  Yeah.
[00:07:04]  Ruby is probably, maybe that was just an accident.
[00:07:06]  Like they were hoping he would never, he would be killed by the local cops.
[00:07:10]  Ruby was definitely not an accident.
[00:07:11]  Ruby was a part of MKUltra.
[00:07:14]  So when Ruby was in prison, he was getting visited by do you think prior to this, he was set up to kill him?
[00:07:22]  So Ruby was in prison before was Ruby in prison before or after he killed Harvey?
[00:07:34]  He'd definitely been in prison prior.
[00:07:36]  I mean, he'd been in and out of prison.
[00:07:39]  He was kind of like a like a mob guy, he was like a hanger on.
[00:07:43]  So, in the book Chaos, the Charles Manson book of the CIA by Tom O'Neill, he talks about a guy named Jolly West who was a CIA sort of like psychologist and chemist.
[00:07:55]  I believe he was a chemist, but he was doing tests on people with LSD, on criminals specifically.
[00:08:02]  And there's documented reports that Tom found that Jolly West visited Jack Ruby in prison multiple times and spent hours with him.
[00:08:12]  And Jolly West was very much a part of MKUltra, the mind control experiments they were trying to.
[00:08:16]  Do in the 60s.
[00:08:17]  And you don't know whether that was prior to?
[00:08:19]  That's what I'm trying to find out.
[00:08:21]  So, yeah, I'd have to read.
[00:08:23]  We'd have to find the book again, or maybe you could Google it, Steve.
[00:08:25]  But I think it was prior to him killing Lee Harvey Oswald.
[00:08:31]  I think it was very much set up for him to.
[00:08:33]  I don't think they wanted him alive.
[00:08:35]  And I think Jack Ruby was probably a part of that plan.
[00:08:38]  Well, I don't know.
[00:08:40]  So, we're never going to know.
[00:08:41]  Right.
[00:08:42]  We're never going to know.
[00:08:42]  Right.
[00:08:43]  That's true.
[00:08:45]  So, again, Okay, okay.
[00:08:48]  So there's the group of people who think the fuck.
[00:08:50]  This is, I think, the least plausible explanation for it that Trump somehow hired.
[00:08:55]  The campaign set up a guy to orchestrate it.
[00:08:58]  To orchestrate a bullet to fly an inch past his fucking skull.
[00:09:02]  Right.
[00:09:02]  There's no way.
[00:09:03]  Yeah, okay.
[00:09:04]  First of all, he didn't need that to win.
[00:09:06]  He had already won the election after that debate with Biden.
[00:09:10]  There was no shot.
[00:09:11]  Right.
[00:09:11]  So the second one is the kid's a patsy.
[00:09:14]  They're kind of maybe watching him.
[00:09:16]  They know he's got anti.
[00:09:18]  Um, you know, conservative or whatever you want to, you know, liberal leanings.
[00:09:22]  He's made a few, they haven't opened his phone yet.
[00:09:25]  So you don't know what that phone, but let's say that NSA has been tracking his phone and they pick somebody and they say, This kid's 20 years old.
[00:09:33]  He's a shooter.
[00:09:34]  Like we know all this by watching his phone.
[00:09:36]  He's a shooter.
[00:09:37]  He's extremely radicalized.
[00:09:39]  He's, um, he's donated to the whatever to the, um, uh, Democratic, uh, that Democratic pact.
[00:09:46]  I mean, what, 15 bucks?
[00:09:47]  Not like he's a huge supporter, but he's also 20.
[00:09:49]  So, you know, he's, um, He's made all of these posts, or who knows what he's made.
[00:09:55]  We don't really know yet because they haven't gotten the phone.
[00:09:57]  But let's say the NSA.
[00:09:58]  They haven't gotten the phone still?
[00:09:59]  No.
[00:09:59]  Well, last I heard that the FBI is trying to crack it, trying to get into it.
[00:10:03]  It's not that easy if it's got a passcode.
[00:10:06]  It seems weird that they wouldn't be.
[00:10:08]  I'm sure they'll get into it, especially since they had that Apple thing where they cracked Apple.
[00:10:12]  Yeah.
[00:10:13]  But anyway, they said they hadn't.
[00:10:15]  Maybe they have and they're still reading it.
[00:10:16]  Who knows?
[00:10:17]  Anyway, so let's say the NSA already knew they've got 50 different people that could be.
[00:10:21]  That could be homegrown kind of assassins.
[00:10:24]  And this kid is one of them, and he's a shooter and he's kind of a loner.
[00:10:29]  And they say, Hey, you know what?
[00:10:30]  If we could get this kid to the rally, and maybe somebody stops by and says, Hey, let's help radicalize him, get him to the rally, plant some bomb material into his car, which they found.
[00:10:43]  And we'll get him on the roof, but we'll have another sniper shoot at Trump.
[00:10:47]  And Trump just happens to turn his head and it misses.
[00:10:50]  Who knows?
[00:10:51]  So that's the second one he's a patsy.
[00:10:55]  And this is the maybe some who knows whether it's the Biden administration or what these people.
[00:11:00]  Well, I mean, he's not just the Patsy, he's also clearly the shooter, right?
[00:11:03]  No, he's clearly going to shoot, right?
[00:11:05]  But Oswald was probably going to shoot, but can we rely on him to kill him?
[00:11:09]  Let's get another person we know can kill him.
[00:11:13]  So let's say that happened.
[00:11:14]  So that's, I'm sorry, that's another kind of a scenario where there's another sniper, but the kid's really the fall guy.
[00:11:21]  Okay, that's another one.
[00:11:22]  So those are the two oddball scenarios.
[00:11:25]  Scenarios.
[00:11:26]  The true scenario is the kid's probably radicalized.
[00:11:29]  His father's saying he knows nothing about it, right?
[00:11:32]  Kid kind of radicalizes himself, figures out how to get to the rally, figures a way out on the rally.
[00:11:40]  Obviously, he had lots of different plans because he did, yeah, because he also had bomb material in his car.
[00:11:49]  So it's like maybe he thought, Hey, can I get on the roof?
[00:11:52]  I probably can't even get on the roof.
[00:11:54]  And he actually, you know, but if I don't get on the roof, then here's what I'm gonna do I have this bomb material in my car, I'm gonna throw it in the crowd, or I'm gonna throw it under Trump's, you know, SUV, or I'm going to who knows what he's thinking.
[00:12:04]  But he obviously had alternate plans.
[00:12:08]  But what happened is he got out there, he said, I can get on the roof.
[00:12:12]  He gets on the roof.
[00:12:13]  He does the army crawl, you know, up the back of the roof.
[00:12:19]  The Secret Service agents see him.
[00:12:22]  They call it in.
[00:12:23]  Other people, spectators call it in.
[00:12:25]  There's a guy up there with a rifle.
[00:12:26]  There's a guy crawling on the roof.
[00:12:29]  The Secret Service agent is told not to take the shot to allow them to check it out first.
[00:12:35]  They send in the police.
[00:12:38]  Police officer climbs up the ladder, approaches him, says, Hey, what's going on?
[00:12:42]  The kid turns around.
[00:12:43]  So Crooks turns around with his rifle.
[00:12:46]  Points it at him.
[00:12:47]  The guy gets freaked out, jumps backwards, and actually falls off the roof.
[00:12:50]  The cop.
[00:12:51]  The cop does.
[00:12:52]  So he falls off the roof.
[00:12:53]  Crooks immediately turns around, gets into position, and starts firing at Trump very quickly.
[00:13:01]  And so the Secret Service agent that had been told not to fire starts to take him out.
[00:13:08]  You know, he'd been told to wait, we're checking it out.
[00:13:10]  So, and so he goes ahead and takes him out.
[00:13:12]  Because he heard the bullets flying.
[00:13:13]  He heard the bullets flying.
[00:13:14]  So he says, F that.
[00:13:16]  This kid's.
[00:13:16]  It's over.
[00:13:17]  He shoots him.
[00:13:17]  From what I understand, is the sniper that we all see in that image on the roof or the video on the roof where there's two of them that are basically like kind of parallel to Trump but facing the kid.
[00:13:28]  Is that they had scoped in on that guy five minutes prior.
[00:13:33]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:33]  I heard three minutes, but yeah.
[00:13:35]  I heard it.
[00:13:35]  So I heard it was five minutes from a guy that I heard that actually talked to him.
[00:13:41]  I don't think I can say who it was yet.
[00:13:44]  A significant amount of time.
[00:13:46]  Five minutes.
[00:13:47]  And then he radioed his superiors.
[00:13:49]  Telling them about that, and they said, Stand down, do not take the shot or whatever.
[00:13:53]  But that's because, most likely, because they had said, Hey, let's get somebody up on that roof to see what's going on.
[00:14:01]  And that's why they send the police up there.
[00:14:03]  So the local cops, sheriffs, right?
[00:14:06]  They go and they find the ladder and they climb up there.
[00:14:08]  Okay.
[00:14:09]  But the scope on that sniper can see the fucking boogers in that guy's nose.
[00:14:14]  I agree.
[00:14:15]  You are telling me that those snipers can't tell that he's got a rifle in his hands?
[00:14:19]  I agree, but they called it in.
[00:14:22]  Keep in mind, too, you don't know that he actually had the sniper rifle on Trump at that time.
[00:14:28]  At that time, he may have just been an army man crawling slowly up the roof, and they see a guy crawling.
[00:14:34]  Maybe he's sliding the gun.
[00:14:35]  They don't know if he's got a gun.
[00:14:37]  You don't really know what he called in.
[00:14:39]  And then he calls it in, and they say, Okay, wait a minute, we're sending somebody over there.
[00:14:43]  You don't know whether he said, Well, I don't know that he's an immediate threat.

=== Snipers Behind Trump (02:41) ===

[00:14:47]  At that moment, he may not have known that.
[00:14:50]  Officer falls and the kid turns around and immediately takes aim.
[00:14:52]  As soon as he sees that, it's like, holy shit, the kid starts firing, which luckily he was obviously anxiety.
[00:14:59]  He's panicked.
[00:15:00]  He just starts firing.
[00:15:01]  And luckily he doesn't get a good shot.
[00:15:03]  Right.
[00:15:04]  I mean, with the scope and that, and only you're only 130 yards away.
[00:15:08]  Steve, you're going to hit him.
[00:15:09]  Steve, can you play the video that basically does the countdown of the people screaming at the guy that's climbing up?
[00:15:15]  Look, they're all pointed.
[00:15:18]  Yeah, someone's on top of the roof.
[00:15:21]  Look, there he is right there.
[00:15:23]  Right there, see him?
[00:15:27]  He's laying down.
[00:15:29]  See him?
[00:15:29]  Yeah, he's laying down.
[00:15:32]  See, like, they don't really know that.
[00:15:34]  What's happening?
[00:15:37]  See, there's a cop down there.
[00:15:39]  Why?
[00:15:39]  Because if we do, we're going to make America better than ever before.
[00:15:42]  We're going to make it.
[00:15:43]  Yeah, look.
[00:15:44]  There he is.
[00:15:46]  Because we have millions and millions of people in our country.
[00:15:49]  They're talking to the officer.
[00:15:50]  That is insane.
[00:15:52]  Criminals.
[00:15:54]  We have So much, you don't mind if I go off teleprompter, do you?
[00:16:17]  This is the damn boring.
[00:16:19]  I'm trying to explain that.
[00:16:22]  Oh, it is.
[00:16:22]  Wow, you guys are doing it, they're getting better with time.
[00:16:27]  My guys, take a look at that chart.
[00:16:29]  Take a look at the arrow on the bottom.
[00:16:31]  See the big red arrow, right?
[00:16:33]  Minute 20.
[00:16:34]  When I left office, that was the lowest.
[00:16:36]  It's been a minute 20 since the guy was spotted, right?
[00:16:39]  So, they've sent the cop, he's probably climbed up, he's climbing up right now, right?
[00:16:43]  Take a look at that.
[00:16:44]  So, that arrow is the lowest.
[00:16:46]  Finds it, finds the ladder.
[00:16:49]  Puts the ladder against the.
[00:16:50]  into our country.
[00:16:51]  You know.
[00:16:52]  And then.
[00:16:53]  starts climbing up the ladder.
[00:16:55]  Yeah.
[00:16:56]  And then the worst president in the history of our country took over.
[00:17:00]  And look what happened to our country.
[00:17:03]  Now, what's this?
[00:17:04]  What's going on here?
[00:17:06]  I think they're walking this towards it.
[00:17:07]  Now, look right here.
[00:17:08]  Why are these guys shooting these people off from behind Trump?
[00:17:11]  Now they have radio.
[00:17:12]  Look at the snipers.
[00:17:14]  Can you pause it?
[00:17:16]  Okay, now he just shot.
[00:17:18]  So, right before the bullets came, the Secret Service were basically like shooing people out from behind Trump.
[00:17:25]  You see them like rushing people out, photographers.

=== Shopify Sponsorship Moment (02:57) ===

[00:17:28]  There's a guy sprinting.
[00:17:30]  And you know, that's a little bit older than Chuck that tries to go for a month old.
[00:17:40]  And if you.
[00:17:56]  The bullets just, could you imagine?
[00:18:04]  So it was two minutes, right?
[00:18:06]  Since they, since, yeah.
[00:18:07]  Well, that's good.
[00:18:10]  Like I said, they said the sniper had him in his sights for three minutes.
[00:18:14]  So, whatever, two to three minutes.
[00:18:15]  So, but keep in mind that time period there, at some point, supposedly, somebody went up on the roof.
[00:18:23]  A police officer or a sheriff's deputy, whatever, actually went up on the roof.
[00:18:27]  And the kid turned around and frightened him and he fell.
[00:18:29]  I heard that from, I'm only saying that because I heard that from two different news organizations.
[00:18:34]  Both of them said the same thing.
[00:18:35]  Like, no, they actually came up on the roof.
[00:18:36]  But as soon as he did it, the kid.
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[00:20:04]  He obviously panicked and started firing.
[00:20:06]  He's like, I got to fire now.
[00:20:07]  These guys are coming.
[00:20:07]  They know I'm up here.
[00:20:08]  This guy just fell.
[00:20:09]  I got to fire.
[00:20:09]  Right.
[00:20:10]  And so he just.
[00:20:11]  So, my question is if the snipers knew that the kid was up there five minutes prior to the shooting and they're radioing into their superiors telling him about it and they're saying, don't fire on him.
[00:20:23]  Right.
[00:20:24]  Why not fire on him?

=== Seconds to Dogpile (06:27) ===

[00:20:25]  For five minutes, are they not focusing on him for that entire five minutes?
[00:20:29]  Are they just like chilling?
[00:20:31]  I think they are.
[00:20:31]  Oh, no.
[00:20:32]  I'm sure they've got him in his sights, right?
[00:20:34]  Right.
[00:20:34]  Okay.
[00:20:34]  So, take him out of my sight.
[00:20:35]  So, the second he Pulls the barrel of his gun up, they're seeing that, right?
[00:20:40]  Right.
[00:20:41]  So there was obviously quite a bit of delay to when he pulls his barrel up, looks through the scope, finds Trump, and starts popping off.
[00:20:49]  There was probably what?
[00:20:52]  How long do you think that would take?
[00:20:53]  10 seconds?
[00:20:53]  Yeah, I was going to say 5, 10 seconds.
[00:20:56]  Seems like a long time.
[00:20:57]  Seems like a long time.
[00:20:59]  And then go down to where Trump was.
[00:21:01]  The Secret Service dogpiled him pretty much immediately, pretty quick.
[00:21:05]  Like two or three seconds it took them to dogpile him.
[00:21:09]  Then he stood up.
[00:21:10]  After I don't know how long that was, but he stood up and then the guy's like 6'3.
[00:21:15]  He stood up and he's towering over these guys, towering over these guys.
[00:21:19]  And they're like a couple of them.
[00:21:21]  One guy, the guy who looks like Andrew Schultz, he's like holding his hand above his head.
[00:21:25]  Another guy's like holding his hand over here.
[00:21:28]  And Trump, he barges through six of them to do his fight, fight, fight thing.
[00:21:34]  And if this is like a JFK scenario where there's multiple shooters, like a triangular hit team, Trump's Done.
[00:21:45]  Wide open.
[00:21:45]  His head was wide open.
[00:21:47]  They let him stand up and, like, because he said, Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[00:21:51]  And he got out, and they didn't know if there was another shooter.
[00:21:55]  Right.
[00:21:55]  Maybe they got in something in their ear.
[00:21:57]  You could hear the radio chatter.
[00:21:58]  They're saying, What do we do now?
[00:21:59]  What are we saying?
[00:22:00]  Shoot her down.
[00:22:01]  Shoot her down.
[00:22:01]  That's probably why they stood him up and said, Let's go.
[00:22:04]  They didn't know if there was another shooter or not.
[00:22:05]  So if there was another shooter, he'd be gone.
[00:22:08]  But then again, Trump's too big to carry.
[00:22:12]  It's like they need his help to get off the stage.
[00:22:14]  It's not like they're going to pick him up and start fighting.
[00:22:16]  Still, they're the fucking Secret Service, and there's like six or seven of them.
[00:22:19]  Right.
[00:22:20]  And then there was the one Secret Service lady.
[00:22:21]  Do you see her hiding behind everybody?
[00:22:23]  The little tiny one?
[00:22:24]  She was like cowering down behind everybody, like hiding.
[00:22:26]  Yeah.
[00:22:27]  Well, you know, diversity higher.
[00:22:29]  Yeah.
[00:22:30]  I mean, first of all, if I'm six foot three, you're stupid.
[00:22:34]  If I'm six foot three, you don't get to be five foot two and protect me.
[00:22:39]  Like, I feel like that's a lot of me that's still available.
[00:22:43]  And these are the main parts that people shoot at.
[00:22:45]  Like, I'm going to need a taller, broad.
[00:22:47]  Right.
[00:22:48]  She's going to have to be at least six foot with heels.
[00:22:52]  I'll take her with heels, you know, platform shoes, something.
[00:22:55]  Can't get a five foot one, five foot two chick.
[00:22:57]  No.
[00:22:57]  I mean, for me, yeah, that'd be fine.
[00:22:59]  But.
[00:23:00]  No.
[00:23:00]  Yeah.
[00:23:01]  And it's easy, you know, like I said, you know, we're sitting here in air conditioning with our microphones talking about what they did wrong.
[00:23:05]  Yeah, of course.
[00:23:05]  I was talking to this guy.
[00:23:06]  I'm not saying I know anything.
[00:23:07]  I was talking to Rick Prada, who's a legendary CIA paramilitary guy who he was a counterterrorism special forces clandestine operations specialist for the CIA.
[00:23:18]  He was in Nicaragua and Costa Rica, like in the 80s during Iran Contra.
[00:23:24]  He's been in a lot of these situations.
[00:23:25]  Not like, but he wasn't a part of the Secret Service, but he actually trained with Secret Service in like the 80s and the 90s, trained with those guys, and he knows a lot of them.
[00:23:35]  And he was like, his point was that, like, yeah, you plan for this stuff a lot.
[00:23:40]  But he goes, in every single situation like this, whether it be in combat, in war, in black ops, or in a Trump rally, he goes, after the first bullet flies, after the first bullet flies, you can be as prepared as humanly possible.
[00:24:02]  But after that first bullet flies, your plan goes out the window.
[00:24:06]  Right.
[00:24:07]  It's the Mike Tyson.
[00:24:07]  Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face.
[00:24:09]  Exactly.
[00:24:10]  Everybody's got a plan.
[00:24:11]  Yes, exactly, man.
[00:24:12]  He said everything goes out the window once the first bullet flies.
[00:24:14]  I think everybody's screaming about the Secret Service agent, too.
[00:24:18]  I think that also, look, they have like an action plan, right?
[00:24:22]  Like they got it all laid out.
[00:24:24]  They know where everybody is, they know everything.
[00:24:26]  But if you've been with the Secret Service and you're dealing with the local sheriff's deputies and cops or police stations and everything, like these people don't work well together.
[00:24:37]  You know, local sheriffs and police don't like the Secret Service.
[00:24:41]  The Secret Service think that they're, you know, morons.
[00:24:44]  And the truth is, is that when you lay it all out and you look at all, and the first of all, and the rallies are happening one after another after another.
[00:24:51]  Can you imagine how quickly they have to, they're constantly seeing different plans.
[00:24:55]  And so that sniper on the roof looking at this guy, you and I can say, you saw him, you saw he had a rifle, you should have shot him.
[00:25:01]  Well, one, you don't know how long he knew he had a rifle.
[00:25:04]  It may have only been for a few seconds.
[00:25:05]  He's being told, stand down, we got somebody up there.
[00:25:08]  We got somebody going up there.
[00:25:09]  Oh, okay.
[00:25:09]  So in your mind, you're kind of thinking, They've got it handled.
[00:25:13]  And the other problem is that during this period of time, what if he sees him and shoots him and finds out, oh my gosh, we didn't have those buildings.
[00:25:23]  We didn't have enough Secret Service snipers to have those buildings covered.
[00:25:26]  And we agreed to let the local SWAT team station a guy on the roof.
[00:25:33]  And that was the local SWAT team guy.
[00:25:35]  He wasn't a part of our action plan.
[00:25:38]  Oh my God, you just killed a SWAT team member.
[00:25:42]  He's been a police officer for 25 years.
[00:25:43]  Right.
[00:25:44]  And then you're like, And then they're saying, We told you to stand down.
[00:25:48]  Do you see what I'm saying?
[00:25:49]  Like, I get it.
[00:25:51]  I mean, everybody's screaming, You should have known.
[00:25:53]  I get it, but you don't know everything that's happening in this guy's head.
[00:25:58]  He's being told, no, no, no, no.
[00:25:59]  And he may be thinking, yeah, I think I know where everybody is, but what if I don't?
[00:26:04]  And I'm being told to stand down.
[00:26:06]  Now, look, let's face it, once a kid got up and started firing, he shot him.
[00:26:10]  Done.
[00:26:10]  Does it take him three seconds to make sure he's going to shoot the right kid, hit the kid?
[00:26:15]  Maybe that's what took four to five or six seconds.
[00:26:17]  Maybe it took him three seconds to realize, oh my God, active fire and another three or four seconds to get a perfect shot, and boom, takes him out.
[00:26:24]  Yeah.
[00:26:25]  Lock the guns that I'm going to take.
[00:26:26]  Yeah.
[00:26:26]  If you think about it, I mean, I've never shot a sniper rifle, but I imagine, like, look, if you would want him to take the shot quicker, but if he took the shot quick and missed, oh, yeah.
[00:26:36]  Imagine the time it would take to reload it.
[00:26:37]  Yeah.
[00:26:38]  Then it would be way, you know, that would be way worse for sure.
[00:26:41]  Listen, look, you know, it's obviously that.
[00:26:45]  But there were two snipers.
[00:26:47]  Yeah.
[00:26:47]  Possibly four.
[00:26:48]  Did you see how they were also kind of like looking at the scope, kind of checking?
[00:26:51]  Like, what?
[00:26:51]  Yeah.
[00:26:52]  He like jumped back and like grabbed it.

=== Brainwashed Assassin Plan (15:34) ===

[00:26:53]  Yeah.
[00:26:53]  The tripod kind of fell back.
[00:26:55]  Yeah.
[00:26:55]  They're both like, obviously, there was action happening.
[00:26:58]  Boring job in the world.
[00:27:00]  It's like being in a law enforcement.
[00:27:03]  Sitting on a roof for four hours.
[00:27:05]  It's tons of boredom with two minutes of complete adrenaline.
[00:27:09]  How many hours has this guy spent on roofs looking through a scope and nothing has happened?
[00:27:17]  Imagine how many snipers spend their whole lives and never fire at a real person.
[00:27:26]  It's so easy to double, to You know, what do you call it?
[00:27:30]  Monday morning quarterback him?
[00:27:31]  Yeah.
[00:27:32]  Yeah.
[00:27:35]  Here's the real problem why was no one on the roof to begin with?
[00:27:39]  And it was so close.
[00:27:40]  Like, you couldn't put a sheriff's deputy sitting up there on a wig.
[00:27:44]  You couldn't give him a fold up chair.
[00:27:45]  Right.
[00:27:46]  Some fat sheriff's deputy couldn't have sat up there.
[00:27:48]  Well, they didn't.
[00:27:50]  I mean, they should have, but they had a guy.
[00:27:52]  They had a sheriff deputy walking around, climbing up the ladder.
[00:27:55]  Yeah, but they don't have a radio.
[00:27:57]  They don't have a radio.
[00:27:57]  They're not on the same channel as these guys.
[00:28:00]  If they can't go squawk, squawk, what's your 20?
[00:28:04]  We got a kid with an AR 15 on the roof.
[00:28:07]  What about the 30 clicks to the right?
[00:28:08]  What about the guy that's a part of that committee that was in Congress that was trying to pull his dude?
[00:28:14]  Yeah, they were trying to pull his secret service detail.
[00:28:17]  Like, what are you doing, bro?
[00:28:19]  Like, you know, whether you like Biden or Trump, it's like the people that, and this is tons of people on TikTok.
[00:28:28]  Like, I'm amazed.
[00:28:29]  My videos will get taken down on TikTok if I say the word gun or if somebody says something.
[00:28:34]  Even slightly, we're telling a story about a guy who pulled a gun or telling a story about a guy who's selling drugs.
[00:28:40]  They get, oh, you know, community violation, this and that.
[00:28:44]  But you got people on there right now saying that too bad the guy missed.
[00:28:50]  He should have been a better shot.
[00:28:51]  It's too bad.
[00:28:52]  Oh my God, he almost got rid of this guy, Trump.
[00:28:55]  And it's like the thing is when people say that.
[00:28:58]  At least they're consistent, right?
[00:28:59]  They're calling him Hitler and they hope at least they're being honest.
[00:29:02]  They've been calling him Hitler this whole time and now they're basically saying that they're pissed off he didn't die.
[00:29:06]  Right.
[00:29:07]  At least they're consistent.
[00:29:08]  There's also a group that's saying, he's Hitler, he's Hitler, he's Hitler.
[00:29:11]  Oh, my thoughts and prayers are with Trump.
[00:29:14]  The same, but here's the thing the same people that are saying that he's a threat to democracy want to take out democracy.
[00:29:25]  Like, this is how we're voting.
[00:29:27]  This is one party, this is the other.
[00:29:29]  That's democracy.
[00:29:32]  You want them to take out one of the two parties.
[00:29:35]  Yes.
[00:29:36]  If I say, he's a threat to democracy, let's take him out.
[00:29:38]  Like, are you.
[00:29:40]  Insane.
[00:29:41]  Do you know how insane that sounds?
[00:29:43]  Like, the practice, you know, our country is built on voting.
[00:29:49]  Like, just vote, like, figure it out.
[00:29:51]  I get it.
[00:29:52]  Do I think Trump should have, you know, like, you know what, the, what do I think?
[00:29:57]  Oh, him denying that he lost the election.
[00:30:01]  Bro, you lost the election.
[00:30:03]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:30:04]  Like, you lost.
[00:30:04]  I get it.
[00:30:05]  There's this, there's that.
[00:30:06]  There's all kinds of issues.
[00:30:07]  There's some extra ballots here.
[00:30:09]  These weren't counted.
[00:30:10]  I understand.
[00:30:10]  But in the end, it's over.
[00:30:13]  Like, quit denying.
[00:30:14]  Quit that.
[00:30:15]  Just say, look, I lost, but I'm going to get it next time.
[00:30:18]  That's fine.
[00:30:19]  You know, I don't think it was fair.
[00:30:20]  Whatever.
[00:30:21]  I lost.
[00:30:22]  You got that.
[00:30:23]  But to sit here and say, That I'm going to take out the other party.
[00:30:30]  Like, that's just insanity.
[00:30:31]  Like, what kind of a person are you that, like, I mean, might not like Biden, but I don't want the guy to die.
[00:30:37]  Yeah.
[00:30:38]  I don't want to take him out.
[00:30:39]  The kid was a fucking 20 year old whose brain was not fully developed yet and is probably on a junkload of SRIs, Ritalin.
[00:30:49]  Ritalin.
[00:30:49]  Yeah.
[00:30:50]  Maybe Ritalin.
[00:30:50]  I wonder why.
[00:30:51]  Antidepressants.
[00:30:53]  Every school shooter in history had a laundry list of fucking prescription drugs.
[00:30:58]  Pharmaceutical prescriptions.
[00:30:59]  What about his dad?
[00:31:00]  Like his dad hasn't.
[00:31:01]  I don't know anything about his dad.
[00:31:02]  Oh, his dad's just saying, like, he's not.
[00:31:04]  He's like, I have no idea why he would have done this.
[00:31:09]  Like, I don't.
[00:31:10]  I didn't see any signs that this was an issue.
[00:31:13]  None.
[00:31:13]  That's what his father's saying.
[00:31:15]  The other thing is, then there were people in the comments who were saying, because he is a registered Republican.
[00:31:23]  The kid is.
[00:31:24]  Yeah.
[00:31:24]  Apparently, that's what a lot of Antifa people did.
[00:31:27]  And then they're saying he.
[00:31:30]  But there's also people saying, yeah, he voted and he voted for Trump last time.
[00:31:35]  Well, he couldn't have voted for Trump last week.
[00:31:36]  He would have been 17 years old.
[00:31:38]  Yeah, he would have been exactly 16 years old.
[00:31:40]  But do you see what I'm saying?
[00:31:41]  Like it makes no sense.
[00:31:41]  People make these rash, they say these things immediately.
[00:31:45]  And then I had another guy, I watched another couple of these where they're like, he's a registered Republican.
[00:31:50]  He voted for Trump the first time, but he's now been so disenfranchised with all of Trump's lies, he decided to do the right thing and get rid of Trump.
[00:32:00]  It's like he didn't vote for Trump.
[00:32:03]  Right.
[00:32:04]  You know, like everything you're saying is ridiculous.
[00:32:06]  Like you're just making up stuff.
[00:32:09]  So anyway, well, what are those are the conspiracies that I've heard.
[00:32:15]  What are what is your what are your have you heard anything?
[00:32:18]  What are your thoughts?
[00:32:19]  The one that I heard today from a friend of mine who is I won't say his name, but he was in the CIA and he's not I don't think he wanted this to be public, but this was just what he told me in privacy.
[00:32:33]  In confidence over the phone, and I haven't heard this anywhere else, is he believes that this guy was not acting alone?
[00:32:43]  He believes that he was coerced into doing this and subverted into doing this by an intelligence agency who is not the CIA.
[00:32:50]  Right.
[00:32:51]  Well, that'd be the Patsy thing, right?
[00:32:52]  He thinks that this guy was coerced by a foreign intelligence agency of another country.
[00:33:03]  Sorry.
[00:33:04]  Yeah.
[00:33:04]  I had not heard that.
[00:33:05]  Okay.
[00:33:06]  Neither had I until this morning when I talked to my buddy.
[00:33:07]  No.
[00:33:09]  And he said that the one intelligence agency who is the best at doing this kind of shit, taking mentally unstable people like this and getting them to commit terrorist crimes, Mossad?
[00:33:21]  Iran.
[00:33:22]  Oh.
[00:33:22]  No, not Mossad.
[00:33:23]  Mossad just gave Trump like $100 million.
[00:33:25]  I don't know.
[00:33:25]  I threw one out there.
[00:33:28]  It was a Hail Mary.
[00:33:29]  Mossad's the one that's protecting this guy.
[00:33:32]  Oh, yeah.
[00:33:33]  Yeah.
[00:33:33]  Well, they love Trump.
[00:33:34]  They love Trump.
[00:33:35]  Oh, yeah.
[00:33:36]  What did he do?
[00:33:37]  He moved the.
[00:33:39]  What did he do?
[00:33:39]  He moved.
[00:33:39]  I'm not saying they did.
[00:33:40]  He just moved the embassy.
[00:33:43]  The embassy where?
[00:33:44]  To Jerusalem?
[00:33:45]  Yeah, he acknowledged the capital or whatever the state.
[00:33:50]  But this guy said the IRGC is the best at pulling off operations like this.
[00:33:58]  Well, I mean, he failed.
[00:33:59]  He wasn't a great shooter.
[00:34:00]  But this is very typical of what they would do.
[00:34:05]  Yeah.
[00:34:05]  You can't account for the guy climbing up on the ladder and saying, Excuse me.
[00:34:11]  What are you doing?
[00:34:12]  Cop.
[00:34:13]  Yeah.
[00:34:13]  You couldn't account for that.
[00:34:14]  Yeah.
[00:34:14]  So if it was a foreign intelligence agency, how did they just get lucky that the secret service was so incompetent?
[00:34:23]  I wonder what.
[00:34:25]  How much bomb material he had.
[00:34:28]  Like that, I wonder because, like, okay, let's say he got out there and he said, okay, I can't get on the roof.
[00:34:33]  Like, there's no way, there's too many cops.
[00:34:34]  I'm never going to be able to do it.
[00:34:35]  Fuck it.
[00:34:36]  Oh, that was his backup plan.
[00:34:37]  Right.
[00:34:38]  Then what was his backup plan?
[00:34:39]  I'm going to go get my car.
[00:34:41]  When Trump leaves, I'm going to shoot right up next to him and I'm going to pull this lever and boom, my car will blow up and I'll take him out too.
[00:34:49]  Like it was, or I just don't understand how much material he had in the car.
[00:34:54]  Like they haven't said that.
[00:34:54]  They just said it was.
[00:34:55]  Bomb making material.
[00:34:56]  They had to get the bomb squad.
[00:34:57]  It was bomb making material.
[00:34:59]  Whatever.
[00:35:00]  I just don't know how much.
[00:35:01]  Was his car nearby?
[00:35:03]  I don't know.
[00:35:04]  There was another thing where they were saying about the Secret Service like, how did he get his vehicle parked this close to the rally?
[00:35:14]  So, in my opinion, they're alluding to the fact that it had gotten through security, that it must have been close for them to be blaming the Secret Service.
[00:35:22]  Like, how did they not catch this?
[00:35:24]  Well, they didn't catch it because it was a mile and a half away.
[00:35:26]  Like, they never saw the car.
[00:35:27]  That's one thing.
[00:35:28]  But they, the, The stuff that I'm reading makes it sound like it went through security somehow.
[00:35:35]  Well, I mean, you know, maybe he had it in the trunk.
[00:35:37]  The guard sniffing dogs didn't get it.
[00:35:38]  Who knows?
[00:35:39]  So I don't really know where it was.
[00:35:41]  Yeah.
[00:35:43]  Yeah.
[00:35:43]  I mean, if you look at who has motive to want Trump gone, I mean, just look at the last couple of years.
[00:35:52]  I mean, why would Iran want him gone?
[00:35:55]  Like, Biden's the one who's bombing Iran.
[00:35:57]  Like, yeah.
[00:35:59]  Well, well, Iran, obviously, they don't have a good relationship with Israel.
[00:36:04]  Saudi Arabia and Israel are kind of aligned against Iran.
[00:36:07]  Iran doesn't like the three headed dragon that is our and the three countries that are our biggest enemies are China, Russia, and Iran.
[00:36:18]  Okay.
[00:36:18]  So it would probably be one of those three, right?
[00:36:21]  If it was.
[00:36:22]  Those are our biggest enemies in the world.
[00:36:23]  North Korea is, to what I said, but North Korea is more like a fucking, just like a nuisance to us.
[00:36:28]  How do you get to a 20 year old?
[00:36:31]  How do you turn a 20 year old?
[00:36:32]  I don't know.
[00:36:33]  You see what I'm saying?
[00:36:34]  Like, I'm assuming that's going to take some time.
[00:36:35]  His father's going to miss him for the 30 days it's going to take to break this kid down, brainwash him, reprogram him, stick him back.
[00:36:43]  That's what Alex Jones is saying.
[00:36:44]  This has got MKUltra written all over it.
[00:36:46]  Like, he was fucking brainwashed.
[00:36:47]  I mean, his dad, it's not like you would think when the authorities showed up, he would say, like, he was gone for 90 days.
[00:36:53]  Just got back a week ago and said, hey, dad, I'm going to a rally.
[00:36:56]  Yeah.
[00:36:59]  Yeah.
[00:36:59]  Or he got back.
[00:36:59]  He was gone for 90 days, showed up and said, dad, can you order this rifle for me?
[00:37:03]  Yeah.
[00:37:04]  Well, that's the thing.
[00:37:04]  Like, who has motive, right, to take out Trump?
[00:37:08]  Well, I mean, look at the United States.
[00:37:12]  They went after Trump.
[00:37:13]  He beat the impeachments.
[00:37:15]  He beat Russiagate.
[00:37:16]  He beat the civil cases.
[00:37:17]  He beat the 34 bogus felonies.
[00:37:20]  He did.
[00:37:21]  No, he didn't beat that.
[00:37:22]  He got.
[00:37:23]  Well, he hadn't been found guilty.
[00:37:25]  He was found guilty of the felonies, but it put him in a higher regard to the American public because everyone saw through the bullshit.
[00:37:33]  So, what it did do is you're right.
[00:37:35]  What it did do is.
[00:37:37]  It didn't destroy his credibility, which is what they were hoping for.
[00:37:41]  If we indict him and we try him and we convict him, it will destroy his credibility, not realizing that absolutely didn't harm him at all.
[00:37:49]  It actually made him more popular.
[00:37:50]  Yes.
[00:37:51]  Exactly.
[00:37:52]  The whole show trial, the whole show trial basically showed it was like the Streisand effect, kind of.
[00:37:56]  What's going to be more interesting is that when the state of New York appellate court overturns, like if it actually gets overturned by the appellate court, then it's just one more slap in the face like, hey, you tried me.
[00:38:11]  You had a little banana, was it Banana Republic?
[00:38:14]  Kangaroo court put together.
[00:38:15]  Yeah.
[00:38:16]  And you guys found me guilty.
[00:38:18]  But then when it got to the appellate court, they overturned it.
[00:38:20]  And guess what?
[00:38:21]  I'm not a felon now.
[00:38:22]  So you guys had a good time calling me a felon, and now I'm not a felon.
[00:38:25]  And then the document case was just thrown out.
[00:38:27]  They just threw out the fucking document case today.
[00:38:30]  Yeah.
[00:38:31]  So that was thrown out.
[00:38:32]  Why did they do that?
[00:38:33]  Well, you know, I. How crazy is that?
[00:38:35]  I think it was suspended for a while because there were so many things that the.
[00:38:40]  Can you find an article on that, Steve?
[00:38:42]  The classified document case being dropped?
[00:38:44]  There were all of these kind of.
[00:38:46]  Things that the FBI had done.
[00:38:48]  They had withheld evidence.
[00:38:49]  They had staged photographs.
[00:38:52]  Like there were all these things that made it look very staged.
[00:38:56]  And as a result, the judge had kind of like put it, suspended it for a while.
[00:39:01]  Like we're going to suspend it for a while.
[00:39:03]  And then he finally just said, you know what, I'm throwing it all out.
[00:39:05]  Trump's classified document case dismissal by Judge Eileen Cannon.
[00:39:12]  So can you find out why they did it?
[00:39:15]  Or if there's like a, if you can like find, like skim through it or find an article that explains why they did it?
[00:39:19]  It said ruling on that one.
[00:39:21]  So, I think, oh, I think I read it earlier, but I believe it was because something about the prosecutor.
[00:39:30]  By the way, did you see the Alex Baldwin thing about his case?
[00:39:36]  Oh, they dropped the charges, right?
[00:39:38]  They dropped the charges, yeah, because they withheld the evidence about the bullets.
[00:39:42]  No, what fucking insane.
[00:39:43]  Judge dismisses classified document case against Trump, blah, blah, blah.
[00:39:46]  Ruled that the entire case should be thrown out because of the appointment of the special counsel who brought the case.
[00:39:50]  Jack Smith had violated the Constitution.
[00:39:53]  He indicated the plan, he indicated.
[00:39:55]  Indicated he planned to appeal, so he's going to appeal.
[00:39:58]  Okay, well, that's not going to do anything, right?
[00:40:05]  So, yeah, it's just crazy that this happens two days after they can try to kill him.
[00:40:12]  Like, they're giving him a straight shot.
[00:40:14]  He, I mean, he has a straight shot.
[00:40:16]  He is the, he's essentially the president elect right now.
[00:40:19]  It's just can one, can he survive to January 20th?
[00:40:22]  That's the thing, right?
[00:40:23]  Like, I talked to this guy, um, and A guy I interviewed actually for something else, but he, um, we were texting back and forth and he was like, You know, everybody thinks like, 'cause I was like, Oh, he's going, he's walking straight into office now.' And he's like, Yeah, but you have to understand, he's like, 'That's you're assuming he survives, right?' He is this still, this guy's got a lot of highly publicized events between now and then, yes, where he could be taken out, yes.
[00:40:50]  Like, if it was if they were smart, they'd retreat and say, 'Okay, we up, we'll try again.' You know, in four years, we'll get another guy in, we'll get somebody in, yeah.
[00:41:00]  Or they say, hey, let's double down.
[00:41:01]  We'll just take him out at all means possible and try and bury the evidence and get away with it.
[00:41:05]  So I was watching Alex Jones videos all day.
[00:41:08]  Oh my God.
[00:41:09]  And he's saying that they're going to go for broke now.
[00:41:12]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:41:13]  He's saying they lean all in.
[00:41:14]  They are going to go all in, balls to the wall.
[00:41:17]  They're going to kill this motherfucker.
[00:41:19]  And he also said that after he wins the election, he said, don't be surprised if you're going to see a lot of false flag events happening.
[00:41:28]  Like he claims they're going to fucking run Trump.
[00:41:30]  bombs into like black churches and stuff and try to incite some sort of a race war and blame it on Trump supporters.
[00:41:37]  Unbelievable.
[00:41:38]  Like trying to target minority communities and use those as false flags to incite some sort of a crazy civil race war.
[00:41:46]  And then, you know, Julian said it best on his little live stream he did yesterday.
[00:41:51]  He said that if that bullet would have hit Trump, he said it wouldn't be a civil war.
[00:41:56]  He's like, civil wars, that's cute.
[00:41:57]  You think it's going to be a civil war.
[00:41:59]  He goes, that's going to be like the bullet that took out Franz Ferdinand that started World War I. Right.
[00:42:03]  He goes, it's going to be World War III, if that would have killed Trump, you wouldn't be able to go outside, dude.
[00:42:09]  You still haven't seen Civil War.
[00:42:11]  I haven't watched Civil War yet.
[00:42:12]  No, I gotta watch it.
[00:42:13]  Did you ever watch the video where the kid goes over, um, what, what, how a Civil War would play out today and today?
[00:42:20]  Oh, I haven't watched the whole thing.
[00:42:22]  Wasn't it?
[00:42:22]  Oh, okay.
[00:42:23]  I haven't watched it yet.
[00:42:23]  I need, I need to watch that, but I, you told me about this though.
[00:42:26]  Yeah, he breaks it down so good.

=== Civil War Today (06:35) ===

[00:42:27]  He's so like, like he's, he could care less.
[00:42:30]  Like it's like he's just matter of factly like, here's this, here's that.
[00:42:34]  Here's how many, you know, here's how many, um, He just breaks it all down very clearly.
[00:42:41]  Like, this is why they end up winning.
[00:42:44]  Here's why.
[00:42:44]  Who wins?
[00:42:45]  He ends up saying that the South wins because basically what he does is he, it's not even against necessarily.
[00:42:52]  He assumes if you were to break up the states exactly the way it was split during the Civil War, right?
[00:42:58]  The Confederacy and the Union, and you took the same states.
[00:43:03]  He said, well, the states are much different now.
[00:43:05]  There's a massive difference now because now there's infrastructure, there's all kinds of things, and you have all these.
[00:43:11]  State these National Guards units, right?
[00:43:13]  So you assume that the National Guards units go with the states.
[00:43:17]  So now Florida has how many different, you know what I'm saying?
[00:43:20]  So basically, if you break the military apart that way, you're on pretty equal footing.
[00:43:25]  The real problem is that he's like, look, you don't have to invade California.
[00:43:29]  You know, what you do is you just cut them off from their water source, which is coming from out of state, and electrical, which is coming from out of state.
[00:43:37]  Like he just also, food, they don't make enough food to feed themselves.
[00:43:41]  I mean, yeah.
[00:43:43]  They have yam yams and almonds and stuff like that, but that's not enough to feed you.
[00:43:49]  They've got a bunch of foods that they do produce, but not enough to feed their entire population.
[00:43:53]  So he's like, and the interstates, there's only like three interstates that basically go that way.
[00:43:57]  He's like, you just cut those off.
[00:43:59]  It's not hard to stop them from feeding themselves.
[00:44:03]  The Confederate states can feed themselves.
[00:44:05]  So he breaks off, same thing with power lines.
[00:44:08]  He basically is like, you don't even have to attack, you just starve them out.
[00:44:12]  And he was like, so if you take that plus battles, if the battles are fought and you base it on the numbers, he starts doing the numbers too.
[00:44:20]  Listen, he lays it all out, and in the end, the Democrat doesn't win.
[00:44:25]  In a protracted battle, they just don't win.
[00:44:28]  Yeah.
[00:44:29]  If there was a civil war, I don't think it would be like a Democrat versus Republican type thing.
[00:44:34]  Right.
[00:44:34]  Well, I mean, he's basing it off of what if the civil war was fought today?
[00:44:38]  That's what his view is.
[00:44:39]  But if there was a civil war fought today, who would be the two fighting parties?
[00:44:43]  It would be obviously like Republican parties.
[00:44:47]  Right wing Trump or even libertarians, Trump types.
[00:44:51]  Which is comical, by the way.
[00:44:53]  One other thing that was just comical because during the Civil War, the South was the Democrats, the North were the Republicans.
[00:45:01]  So that's comical because it's actually a swap.
[00:45:04]  Lincoln was a Republican.
[00:45:06]  So now it's like Florida is Republican, Texas is Republican.
[00:45:10]  You start adding them up.
[00:45:11]  They swapped during Kennedy.
[00:45:13]  Yeah.
[00:45:13]  Kennedy was the one who changed that.
[00:45:17]  So.
[00:45:18]  So, yeah, so Kennedy, when he was running, he, John Newman, John Newman explained this beautifully to us.
[00:45:27]  What happened during the Kennedy election was his campaign ran an operation to basically market themselves in black churches all around the country.
[00:45:39]  And they got, they recruited like a preacher to go around and basically give these pamphlets and these flyers out to all the people in the black churches to try to win over the black vote.
[00:45:52]  He was also, I think he was talking.
[00:45:56]  I don't know if Kennedy actually met with MLK, but his brother did.
[00:46:01]  Right.
[00:46:03]  And this was like last minute thing and it swung the black vote like crazy.
[00:46:07]  Well, Martin Luther King was a Republican.
[00:46:09]  So they went after the, yeah.
[00:46:11]  You can look it up.
[00:46:13]  Yeah.
[00:46:14]  It was, there was a word, there was a word for it that he used.
[00:46:16]  I forget what he called it.
[00:46:17]  He called it was like, he was like, you could probably find it, Steve.
[00:46:21]  I forget.
[00:46:21]  There was a great word for it.
[00:46:22]  Because up until Lynn, Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, right?
[00:46:27]  Up until that era, the Republicans were the ones who were pushing through all the legislation for blacks.
[00:46:34]  Right.
[00:46:34]  So up until that point, and they just flip flopped it.
[00:46:38]  Yeah.
[00:46:38]  They said, you know what?
[00:46:39]  This is not going well for us.
[00:46:40]  Right.
[00:46:40]  It's obviously going to happen.
[00:46:42]  So we need to take on this agenda.
[00:46:46]  We need to make this agenda take it away from the Republicans and make it a Democratic agenda.
[00:46:51]  And they did.
[00:46:52]  They very successfully, over the next several presidencies, did that, you know, which is super successful.
[00:46:59]  What were we talking about before we talked about JFK?
[00:47:01]  Oh, we were talking about if a civil war were fought today.
[00:47:04]  Yeah.
[00:47:05]  Yeah.
[00:47:05]  But before that, we were talking about.
[00:47:06]  Oh, you were talking about.
[00:47:07]  Okay.
[00:47:07]  Yeah.
[00:47:07]  You were talking about during the Civil War, you were saying the South were the Democrats?
[00:47:13]  Yeah.
[00:47:13]  Yeah.
[00:47:13]  The slave owners.
[00:47:14]  Yeah.
[00:47:14]  They were the slave owners.
[00:47:15]  That was the Ku Klux Klan, the all the cotton farmers, the whole thing was all Democrats.
[00:47:24]  Listen, Democrats didn't like the Emancipation Proclamation.
[00:47:28]  Democrats didn't vote for that.
[00:47:29]  That was all Republican.
[00:47:30]  Like all of these things were Republican agendas.
[00:47:35]  But then, yeah, you're right.
[00:47:36]  Kennedy.
[00:47:37]  You know, good looking guy goes in there, like you said, black churches, gets a bunch of reverence, starts pitching to them civil rights and takes that away from the Republican Party.
[00:47:48]  Like, brilliant, bro.
[00:47:49]  You have to admit, that's brilliant.
[00:47:50]  Like, this is one of their winning campaigns.
[00:47:56]  Let's take that from them.
[00:47:57]  Let's make it ours and make them the bad guys.
[00:48:00]  Yeah.
[00:48:00]  You know, I think it was after the Civil War, there was the Mexican Revolution.
[00:48:06]  I think it was like in 1910, I believe.
[00:48:09]  You know, and Mexico used to basically contain all of Texas and most of all of New Mexico and lots of Southern California.
[00:48:16]  Mexico was massive and ate up a lot of the United States, like current United States.
[00:48:21]  And then after the Mexican Revolution, they did a deal.
[00:48:24]  When was the Mexican Revolution?
[00:48:25]  Can you find that straight from the 10th?
[00:48:26]  I said 1910.
[00:48:28]  You said 1910.
[00:48:28]  I'm sorry.
[00:48:29]  Can you find out when the Mexican Revolution was?
[00:48:30]  And then find out, like, show the map of Mexico before the Mexican Revolution.
[00:48:35]  And yeah, 1910.
[00:48:36]  I got it.
[00:48:37]  Woo!
[00:48:38]  Look at that, bro.
[00:48:39]  Man.
[00:48:40]  Had no idea.
[00:48:41]  I wouldn't have even said it was.
[00:48:44]  No, I would have.
[00:48:44]  And then show us a map of Mexico before the Mexican Revolution.
[00:48:48]  And so after we got Texas, right?
[00:48:53]  It was so big.
[00:48:54]  And obviously, Texas, like the whole area of Texas was slave owners, right?
[00:49:00]  And.
[00:49:01]  It didn't seem that big.
[00:49:02]  They wanted to divide.

=== Clint Eastwood History (15:00) ===

[00:49:03]  Look at that, bro.
[00:49:04]  That's not it.
[00:49:06]  Is that it?
[00:49:08]  You can't really tell if you can't see the whole map of the U.S. Anyways, so.
[00:49:12]  They wanted to cut Texas up into a bunch of states so they would have more voting power for slavery.
[00:49:18]  And they were like, no, f that.
[00:49:20]  That's why Texas is so big.
[00:49:22]  They had to make it one big state so they didn't get more voting power, like more states.
[00:49:26]  Right.
[00:49:26]  So, okay.
[00:49:27]  So you only get a few senators.
[00:49:29]  Right.
[00:49:30]  Exactly.
[00:49:32]  So, yeah, it was all about like control of slavery.
[00:49:35]  Did you ever see in the line back to the assassinations?
[00:49:41]  Did you ever see in the line of fire?
[00:49:45]  No.
[00:49:45]  With Clint Eastwood?
[00:49:46]  No.
[00:49:47]  Oh, my God, bro.
[00:49:50]  So, what a great movie.
[00:49:53]  I mean, what a great Clint Eastwood movie, too.
[00:49:54]  And he's probably in his 60s when this, when he, when he did this movie.
[00:49:59]  He plays a secret service agent that was a part of JFK's detail when he gets shot.
[00:50:06]  And so it's like literally, it's like 30, 40 years later.
[00:50:10]  And he's still a secret, like longest.
[00:50:12]  He was the youngest secret service agent at the time, longest running secret service agent.
[00:50:16]  And what happens is they end up going into an apartment where the landlady comes into the apartment, there's something smoking, whatever.
[00:50:22]  And she accidentally enters the apartment and finds this wall filled with photographs of the current president and bullseyes on his head.
[00:50:33]  All these different schematics of different rallies he's been at, shooting points, you know, that sort of thing.
[00:50:39]  Like, oh my gosh, like, this is somebody who's planning on killing the president.
[00:50:43]  He goes there to check it out because she calls the Secret Service.
[00:50:45]  A couple days later, they come, they check it out.
[00:50:48]  Clint Eastwood's character is the main guy.
[00:50:50]  Well, while he's there, the shooter sees him.
[00:50:56]  So the shooter sees him and realizes who he is and starts communicating with him.
[00:51:03]  And so they know that.
[00:51:07]  They know that this assassin is planning on killing the president.
[00:51:15]  And it shows how he ends up getting himself to a position to kill the president.
[00:51:20]  And you know, John F. Kennedy said, like, anybody can kill the president as long as they're willing to trade places, as long as they're willing to forfeit their life.
[00:51:28]  Right.
[00:51:28]  And this really, if you watch this movie, let me tell you something, bro.
[00:51:33]  The way the guy gets close, like, he basically, and granted, there's money involved.
[00:51:36]  So what he does is he.
[00:51:39]  I don't know if it's Republican.
[00:51:41]  The president is Republican or Democrat.
[00:51:43]  Let's say he's a Republican.
[00:51:44]  So, what happens is he ends up.
[00:51:50]  Oh, it's John Malkovich, right?
[00:51:51]  Like he's the shooter.
[00:51:53]  So, he starts donating.
[00:51:55]  So, he's got a fake name, fake driver's license, fake everything.
[00:51:58]  His company's fake.
[00:51:59]  It's got a history, everything.
[00:52:01]  And he's continually donating to the party.
[00:52:04]  And so, eventually, the Republican Party, you know, whatever the chairman or whoever is involved with the chapter that he's.
[00:52:11]  You know, friendly with.
[00:52:13]  Eventually he says, Hey, there's a rally coming up or a dinner, you know, a $10,000 plate dinner.
[00:52:20]  You know, they'll pay $10,000.
[00:52:23]  There's 500 people.
[00:52:24]  They raise $5 million and you get a picture with the president.
[00:52:27]  So you're going to be next to the president at some point.
[00:52:30]  So he gets himself invited to this dinner and he's built himself a composite gun.
[00:52:38]  Just like he makes a Dillinger, a very rudimentary.
[00:52:42]  Dillinger, right?
[00:52:43]  With two bullets.
[00:52:46]  And so it's two bullets.
[00:52:48]  He puts it, he has a fake stomach.
[00:52:50]  And he now, this is obviously before like the really good X ray machines that swoop around you and can really check you out.
[00:52:58]  Right.
[00:52:59]  Builds this gun right here.
[00:53:00]  Wow.
[00:53:01]  And he puts it in the fake stomach.
[00:53:04]  And the bullets he has in a rabbit's foot.
[00:53:08]  So when he goes through the metal detector, he puts it in the little tray, ching, you know, his keys, the rabbit's foot with the keys, and a plastic gun.
[00:53:16]  No, no, not the plastic gun.
[00:53:18]  The gun's in his belly.
[00:53:18]  The plastic gun's in his belly, but that can go through the metal detector.
[00:53:21]  Right, because it's composite with no bullets in it.
[00:53:23]  Right, right.
[00:53:23]  Bullets are in the rabbit's foot, which he throws in the tray.
[00:53:27]  You know how it used to be you would throw all your keys in the tray?
[00:53:30]  So the rabbit foot has the bullets in it.
[00:53:32]  Right.
[00:53:33]  Throws them in the tray, walks through.
[00:53:35]  They pat him down, no problem.
[00:53:37]  He goes to sit next to, you know, close to the president under the table.
[00:53:41]  He puts the bullets in, puts the gun together.
[00:53:43]  And then as the president comes along and shaking people's hands, and you get a picture taken with him, he's right next to the fucking guy with a gun that has two bullets in it.
[00:53:52]  Bam!
[00:53:53]  And then he can shoot himself.
[00:53:55]  Wow.
[00:53:55]  I'm not going to ruin the movie.
[00:53:56]  I mean, I'll ruin the movie if it's been 30 years or 20 years.
[00:53:59]  Nobody's going to see it.
[00:54:00]  Go ahead, ruin it.
[00:54:01]  Obviously, Clint Eastwood at the last minute runs and jumps in front of the president, takes the fucking bullet.
[00:54:07]  The guy shoots somebody else and gets on the elevator with Clint Eastwood.
[00:54:11]  And it's a whole thing.
[00:54:13]  Saves the president.
[00:54:14]  But the point is, if you watch it, you're like, man, that seems like it'd work.
[00:54:19]  Like, how hard is it?
[00:54:20]  Listen, I got a buddy, Donovan Davis, the guy from The Gap, that story I wrote.
[00:54:23]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:54:24]  Donovan's got pictures with George Bush.
[00:54:26]  I have my old Rudy Arnott's, which is a guy who was one of my business partners.
[00:54:30]  He has photos of him with where he paid $10,000, or I think he paid like $5,000 to go to a fundraiser for Bush.
[00:54:38]  He's got photos of him with Bush.
[00:54:40]  Wow.
[00:54:41]  You know, so it's not that difficult.
[00:54:44]  Now, granted, there's money involved.
[00:54:45]  This guy probably donated $50,000 to $100,000 to get, and this is 30 years ago.
[00:54:49]  Maybe it's a couple hundred thousand to get yourself in the same room.
[00:54:52]  But it's not that if you're willing to realize, like, hey, once I fire this, like, I'm dead.
[00:54:58]  They're either going to kill me or I spend the rest of my life in prison.
[00:55:01]  You know, most people are just not willing to do that.
[00:55:03]  They're just not, no matter how politically polarized they are.
[00:55:08]  They're just like, look, I just don't want to die.
[00:55:10]  Right.
[00:55:10]  There's not people crazy enough, right?
[00:55:12]  Like this kid, this kid that just did this the other day, I mean, he was clearly out of his fucking mind.
[00:55:17]  But crazy enough, here's the problem if you are crazy enough, you're usually not competent enough.
[00:55:22]  That kid just happened to be crazy and competent.
[00:55:26]  Yeah.
[00:55:27]  How competent, though?
[00:55:28]  I mean, he knew how to shoot a gun, but he didn't really know how to shoot a gun.
[00:55:30]  He wasn't a good shooter.
[00:55:31]  Listen, if that cop hadn't been up there, if that had gone down a little bit different, he may have killed.
[00:55:37]  Actually, I think the sniper probably would have killed him, but that could have gone.
[00:55:40]  He fired eight shots there going right by Trump.
[00:55:44]  Right, right.
[00:55:45]  That one hit him.
[00:55:46]  I'm thinking that's maybe not 100% confident.
[00:55:49]  It's pretty close.
[00:55:50]  Yeah, it was more confident than I want my assassin to be.
[00:55:52]  It was pretty close.
[00:55:54]  You know, I've been thinking the biggest thing that I can't get over here is like everybody.
[00:55:59]  I would say what percentage of me.
[00:56:01]  I mean, there's.
[00:56:02]  What percentage of people think that this guy was a lone nut versus this was the CIA?
[00:56:06]  I feel like that's the two main camps that areas of belief here with this whole situation.
[00:56:12]  I think a majority of them believe that it was the CIA or the deep state trying to take out Trump because there's so much stuff that's happened in the last few years with the show trial in New York, with the 34 felonies, now this, the Russiagate, all this stuff.
[00:56:28]  Look who has the motive.
[00:56:29]  The United States apparatus, whoever's running this thing in the shadows, is the one I believe that has the most motive.
[00:56:37]  This is true or not, I don't know, but it seems like that's what the consensus is of most people on the internet that I've seen.
[00:56:42]  You know what's really like?
[00:56:43]  What did Trump do last time that was so bad?
[00:56:45]  He had four years.
[00:56:46]  If he was going to do something insane, he would have done it.
[00:56:48]  Right.
[00:56:49]  And plus, there's checks and balances.
[00:56:51]  A president doesn't have that much power.
[00:56:53]  What did John F. Kennedy say a month before he was killed?
[00:56:58]  He said he was going to remove 100,000 troops out of Vietnam every month for four months.
[00:57:02]  Right.
[00:57:02]  So 400,000 troops out of Vietnam.
[00:57:04]  That was a military coup.
[00:57:06]  The Joint Chiefs of Staff did not want that to happen.
[00:57:07]  They had a crazy nuclear war plan to nuke China and Russia.
[00:57:11]  Kennedy and his brother wanted nothing to do with it and he said, you guys, I'm pulling out all the troops.
[00:57:15]  A month later, he's dead.
[00:57:17]  What did Trump say?
[00:57:17]  Trump said, I am going to stop the funding to Ukraine for this war against Russia and I'm going to end this war.
[00:57:23]  Right.
[00:57:24]  Then a fucking bullet flies a half inch away from his fucking temple.
[00:57:27]  Eight of them.
[00:57:28]  I mean, it's really, you got to have, there's got to be, I mean.
[00:57:32]  And he killed that poor guy in the crowd.
[00:57:34]  Everybody forgets about that guy.
[00:57:35]  I know, the poor fucking guy.
[00:57:36]  He's just sitting there.
[00:57:37]  He just said, oh, yeah.
[00:57:38]  The firefighter, no less.
[00:57:39]  His daughter was there.
[00:57:40]  His wife was there.
[00:57:42]  And there's still people that want to say that it was fake.
[00:57:44]  Like, get the out of here.
[00:57:45]  So, this is my biggest problem with this it makes sense until the bullet misses him.
[00:57:53]  Because if it really was the CIA, Trump would be dead.
[00:57:56]  Yeah.
[00:57:56]  Well, maybe it's just a flu.
[00:57:58]  They would have turned his head off.
[00:57:59]  They would have had a backup plan.
[00:58:00]  They would have had multiple shooters.
[00:58:02]  I mean, I'm sure they could have missed.
[00:58:03]  I really find it hard to believe that if it was the military or a U.S. agency, they would have missed.
[00:58:09]  Well, keep in mind, too, maybe the first thing is let's send in this kid.
[00:58:12]  Maybe he's competent enough to pull it off.
[00:58:14]  Maybe the second one is okay, he's still human, right?
[00:58:16]  Yeah, he wasn't competent enough, but don't worry.
[00:58:20]  There's some more rallies coming up.
[00:58:21]  Yeah.
[00:58:22]  Or, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
[00:58:23]  Like, hey, don't worry.
[00:58:24]  He'll be out in the open again.
[00:58:25]  We'll get him next time.
[00:58:26]  Right.
[00:58:27]  We have to, you know, clearly, what we need is some shorter Secret Service agents.
[00:58:32]  Can we get five foot one female agents?
[00:58:36]  Jesus Christ, dude.
[00:58:40]  The fact that he has the balls to keep doing this stuff.
[00:58:43]  I know.
[00:58:44]  He went golfing the next fucking day.
[00:58:45]  I know.
[00:58:46]  Did you see that?
[00:58:46]  Yeah, he sucked.
[00:58:47]  There was a report from the cart boy who's like, yeah, yeah.
[00:58:50]  He goes, I watched him do a 20 foot putt with a two foot break.
[00:58:53]  He sunk the goddamn putt and said, the difference between me and that shooter is I don't miss.
[00:58:58]  What a savage.
[00:58:59]  Come on.
[00:59:00]  I mean, Jesus Christ.
[00:59:02]  You can't make this shit up.
[00:59:04]  You can't make this shit up.
[00:59:06]  You can't write a better script, dude.
[00:59:08]  And then with what he said, I mean, he showed so much fucking fearlessness and defiance when he was scuffling.
[00:59:16]  But anybody else would be like, fight, fight, fight.
[00:59:18]  I mean, like.
[00:59:19]  Anybody else is like, give me the car, let me get me out of here.
[00:59:20]  Get me out of here.
[00:59:21]  Yeah, right.
[00:59:22]  For sure.
[00:59:22]  Right.
[00:59:23]  For sure.
[00:59:24]  He was like, nah.
[00:59:27]  It is over.
[00:59:28]  Unless they find a way to kill him man, and I really hope they don't.
[00:59:32]  I really hope they don't because it's going to be utter chaos and I hope you have a passport to another country if that happens.
[00:59:38]  The insanity that we're having this conversation i'm the country that I grew up in like this is insane.
[00:59:47]  I don't remember people getting shot.
[00:59:49]  Well, Reagan got shot, but this was a lone nut job, you know, and he was also five feet away from his car.
[00:59:56]  Yeah, this was like, and you never saw him.
[00:59:58]  After that bullet went off they, they dogpiled him and you never saw him after that.
[01:00:02]  Well, and you talk, and they talked to, you know, the thing is, he was left alive, and you knew right away what the issue was.
[01:00:07]  He was in fact away with Jody Foster.
[01:00:10]  He'd actually gone to other rallies.
[01:00:13]  It just happened to realize, oh, what?
[01:00:16]  Reagan's going to be here?
[01:00:18]  Oh, I'll go.
[01:00:19]  Maybe I'll get a shot at him and took a shot.
[01:00:24]  But there's never been any, you know, XK Ultra.
[01:00:29]  What was it called?
[01:00:29]  MK Ultra.
[01:00:30]  MK Ultra.
[01:00:31]  You know, nobody's ever said anything, but this was just a lone nut job.
[01:00:35]  Um, what was his name?
[01:00:36]  Um, I forget.
[01:00:38]  Come on, the guy that shot, uh, was it John something?
[01:00:41]  John, the guy who shot Reagan, I want to say John Hinkley.
[01:00:44]  John Hinkley, that sounds right.
[01:00:46]  Yeah, that sounds right.
[01:00:47]  Yeah, he ended up getting, shoot, he ended up getting somebody.
[01:00:49]  I forget, God, the guy's like, it was a secret service agent right there that got hit.
[01:00:53]  Yeah, and uh, Reagan, I think it went right through his lung, it broke his ribs, and it went right through his lung.
[01:00:58]  He was in the hospital for, I think, a month.
[01:01:00]  Someone else got shot in the head.
[01:01:02]  Yeah, another guy got shot during that.
[01:01:03]  Yeah, really, in the Reagan thing, he got shot in the head.
[01:01:06]  Got, um, I forget his name.
[01:01:08]  Shoot, that's horrible.
[01:01:10]  Yeah, he was like, I'm not a vegetable, but close to a vegetable.
[01:01:16]  And Reagan didn't even know he'd been shot.
[01:01:18]  Got in the car, it was blocks away before they were.
[01:01:21]  He was saying, Oh, I'm okay, I'm okay, okay.
[01:01:22]  Oh, yeah.
[01:01:23]  All of a sudden, they said he just kind of started sliding sideways.
[01:01:27]  Got him all the way in.
[01:01:27]  The adrenaline was rushing so hard, he didn't even fucking know he had a bullet in him.
[01:01:32]  And then I remember this is another one that they talk about where they said he was, when they were about to put him under at the surgery, and he stops and they said he like stopped the anesthesiologist and he looks around at the surgeon and he goes, I hope everybody here's a Republican.
[01:01:47]  And the surgeon goes, We are today, sir.
[01:01:49]  We are today.
[01:01:52]  That's funny.
[01:01:53]  Oh my God.
[01:01:53]  Yeah, play it.
[01:01:56]  Oh, this is the guy, the bald guy right here.
[01:01:58]  Look, right here.
[01:01:59]  That's him?
[01:02:00]  I think he gets shot in the head.
[01:02:02]  Oh, we don't have that.
[01:02:02]  Doesn't continue?
[01:02:04]  I don't know.
[01:02:05]  It's like a news clip.
[01:02:06]  It's all put together.
[01:02:06]  You can't find the raw footage.
[01:02:08]  What?
[01:02:08]  I saw it just the other day.
[01:02:09]  You saw the raw footage?
[01:02:10]  Yeah.
[01:02:10]  You can't find it.
[01:02:11]  It's always mixed in with packages.
[01:02:13]  Oh, man.
[01:02:13]  The packages.
[01:02:14]  Yeah.
[01:02:15]  Oh, yeah.
[01:02:15]  This is all of them, right?
[01:02:16]  That's horrific.
[01:02:17]  Is this JFK?
[01:02:18]  Yeah.
[01:02:19]  Bro, you want to hear the craziest shit I've ever heard about JFK?
[01:02:24]  I had this guy on the podcast named Danny Sheehan who blew my fucking mind.
[01:02:27]  See the guy on the ground just laying flat out?
[01:02:29]  Oh, he's gone, right?
[01:02:31]  He's shot right in the head.
[01:02:32]  How many shots were fired?
[01:02:33]  Right there.
[01:02:35]  Hinkley shot him right in the head.
[01:02:37]  And Hinkley, what happened to Hinkley right after that?
[01:02:39]  They blew him away or what?
[01:02:40]  I mean, no, no.
[01:02:41]  Oh, no.
[01:02:41]  He's out now.
[01:02:42]  I think he's out now.
[01:02:43]  What?
[01:02:44]  He was sent to a psychiatric hospital.
[01:02:47]  He spent like 20 or 30 minutes.
[01:02:48]  They didn't kill him?
[01:02:49]  No.
[01:02:49]  They just grabbed him.
[01:02:52]  This was back in the 80s when they still, you know, they were still a little restricted.
[01:02:56]  On law enforcement.
[01:02:57]  Oh my God.
[01:02:58]  He's still alive.
[01:02:59]  Yeah.
[01:03:00]  Yeah.
[01:03:00]  I think he's allowed to leave.
[01:03:02]  Like he can go home passes and leave.
[01:03:05]  I'm pretty sure.
[01:03:06]  How old was he when he shot Reagan?
[01:03:07]  Young.
[01:03:08]  Probably in his 20s, right?
[01:03:11]  Not an extremely attractive man.
[01:03:15]  How old was Hinckley when he shot Reagan?
[01:03:19]  Oh, it says when he died.
[01:03:20]  Is he dead?
[01:03:21]  He was 25 when he shot Reagan.
[01:03:23]  Is that him now?
[01:03:24]  No, is that him?
[01:03:25]  That's him now.
[01:03:26]  Okay.
[01:03:26]  Oh, he must be still alive.
[01:03:28]  Yeah.
[01:03:29]  Whoa.
[01:03:29]  Imagine you fucking shot the president and killed another guy and you're walking the streets.
[01:03:33]  He didn't kill the guy.
[01:03:34]  I don't think he killed the guy.
[01:03:35]  No, the guy lived.
[01:03:36]  Okay, the guy lived.
[01:03:37]  But still, he shot him in the head.
[01:03:39]  He lived in a horrible situation.
[01:03:40]  It's a horrible situation the way he lived.
[01:03:42]  Where have you been the last 40 years?
[01:03:44]  I've been in prison.
[01:03:45]  Why that?
[01:03:45]  I tried to kill the president, shot the fucking president.
[01:03:48]  Yeah.
[01:03:49]  He was, you know.
[01:03:50]  He's 69 now.
[01:03:51]  So that photo is a little older.
[01:03:53]  Wow, dude.
[01:03:54]  Jody Foster, he was infatuated with her.
[01:03:58]  And that's why I tried to kill Reagan.
[01:04:00]  You know that, right?
[01:04:01]  No.
[01:04:01]  He just tried to get her attention.

=== Nixon Castro Watergate (12:03) ===

[01:04:03]  No way.
[01:04:04]  Figured if he killed the president, he'd get Jodie Foster's attention.
[01:04:08]  Like to woo her?
[01:04:09]  Yeah.
[01:04:09]  Wow.
[01:04:11]  Insane, right?
[01:04:12]  That's amazing, dude.
[01:04:13]  That's fucking ridiculous.
[01:04:16]  I can't believe I can't remember the guy's name that got shot.
[01:04:18]  It was a cabinet member or something, too, of Reagan's.
[01:04:21]  So sad.
[01:04:22]  Just walking along.
[01:04:24]  Yeah.
[01:04:26]  And then survived.
[01:04:26]  I think he was in a wheelchair or, you know, he's.
[01:04:30]  You know, shot in the head like a few times in the head, like his brain, in his brain, like it's scrambled.
[01:04:35]  Like he's never the same.
[01:04:36]  These guys drooling out of the side of his mouth for the rest of his life.
[01:04:41]  It's horrible.
[01:04:43]  So, the guy I was telling you about, Danny Sheehan, who's on the podcast, he's a lawyer and he worked on a bunch of big cases.
[01:04:48]  He worked on what?
[01:04:49]  It was James Brady.
[01:04:51]  Oh, Kariyaku is going to be calling in in about 20 minutes.
[01:04:55]  Yeah.
[01:04:55]  Okay.
[01:04:56]  Yeah, the guy was James Brady.
[01:04:57]  Oh, James Brady.
[01:04:59]  Oh, is that him now?
[01:05:00]  Brady.
[01:05:01]  Okay, perfect.
[01:05:01]  Can you type in James, click on like James Brady gunshot, see if they have any photos of it?
[01:05:08]  James Brady gunshot.
[01:05:15]  Oh, wow.
[01:05:16]  Oh.
[01:05:18]  There's a oh my god, so it like grazed his head, right?
[01:05:22]  It didn't go right through his head, obviously.
[01:05:24]  So it hit him in the head.
[01:05:25]  Look at his forehead, yeah.
[01:05:26]  It hit him in the head.
[01:05:27]  That's all blood.
[01:05:28]  Are there any more photos?
[01:05:33]  He's never the same.
[01:05:34]  Like, look at this guy, he's not that's amazing.
[01:05:36]  He lived, dude.
[01:05:37]  That sucks.
[01:05:37]  Look the way he's laying, he's not okay.
[01:05:39]  No, that sucks.
[01:05:41]  Yeah, there's not that many shots.
[01:05:43]  They didn't have it's a miracle he lived, they didn't have burst mode back then, yeah.
[01:05:48]  Oh, look at that photo of him sprawled out.
[01:05:51]  This is a bad day.
[01:05:54]  Oh, look, straight over, look at his head.
[01:05:56]  That's fucked.
[01:05:56]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:05:58]  Anyways, this guy, Danny Sheehan's a lawyer.
[01:06:01]  He worked on the Watergate case and he worked on the Pentagon Papers case.
[01:06:04]  He worked on the Iran Contra case.
[01:06:06]  Guy goes back, right?
[01:06:07]  He's been in all the most famous cases in the United States.
[01:06:10]  And he was explaining to me the whole backstory of how Kennedy got killed.
[01:06:15]  It's fucking wild.
[01:06:16]  He was saying that when Nixon was running for president, he was running against Roosevelt.
[01:06:22]  And Roosevelt dropped out and then Nixon thought he had a straight shot to win the presidency, right?
[01:06:28]  No, they never thought for a second that Kennedy was going to beat him.
[01:06:32]  And he was winning in the poll.
[01:06:33]  Kennedy was losing in the polls until they did the thing with the blacks.
[01:06:38]  Yeah.
[01:06:38]  No, no.
[01:06:39]  I was saying that they did the debate and Nixon did because Nixon was sweating.
[01:06:47]  He did so badly in the debate.
[01:06:49]  Oh, that was it.
[01:06:50]  Yeah.
[01:06:51]  Well, he starts sweating like he keeps having to wipe it.
[01:06:53]  And Kennedy, even though he.
[01:06:55]  Maybe just held his own.
[01:06:57]  Yeah.
[01:06:58]  But Nixon looked so bad.
[01:07:01]  He's wiping his head because it was super hot, but he's also nervous.
[01:07:05]  Right.
[01:07:06]  He was exasperated.
[01:07:07]  Yeah.
[01:07:07]  Kennedy's a good looking young guy, well spoken.
[01:07:11]  Like, oh, like, you know, you know what Nixon looked like.
[01:07:13]  Yeah.
[01:07:13]  He looks like a terror.
[01:07:14]  Yep.
[01:07:15]  I mean, and they go through the bait and Kennedy just came off much, much more smooth.
[01:07:19]  Right.
[01:07:20]  So Nixon was the head of this thing called the 5412 Committee, which was part of the national intelligence.
[01:07:27]  And it was basically he was like, A part of this committee, the 5412 committee, that was part of covert ops for the CIA.
[01:07:33]  And after Roosevelt dropped, or not Roosevelt, after Rockefeller dropped out, everyone thought Nixon was going to be the next president.
[01:07:42]  Okay.
[01:07:42]  So Nixon wanted Castro whacked.
[01:07:45]  For some reason, he thought that if he could set up an assassination on Castro to line up with his presidency, it would be great.
[01:07:52]  So what he did was he contacted Howard Hughes, the airplane guy.
[01:07:56]  I know, yeah.
[01:07:56]  Who fucking.
[01:07:57]  Right.
[01:07:58]  I know who Howard Hughes is.
[01:07:59]  Yeah.
[01:07:59]  Yeah.
[01:08:00]  And, um, Howard Hughes had this huge connection to intelligence.
[01:08:04]  I mean, he was part of like recovering the Glomar Explorer, the Russian submarine, all this crazy shit.
[01:08:09]  Oh, yeah, the U.S. spy plane.
[01:08:11]  Yeah, he did a ton of patents.
[01:08:13]  Yes.
[01:08:14]  So, Howard Hughes went to these two mob guys, who I forget their names, who were in Vegas.
[01:08:20]  And they were like, Howard Hughes thought he could get these mob guys to take out Castro or set up a team to kill Castro.
[01:08:27]  The mob guys, they go to Chicago, meet with the other head, I forget the other mob guy who was in Chicago.
[01:08:31]  They're meeting and they're saying, Well, this is Santo Traficante territory, Cuba, right?
[01:08:37]  Santo Traficante.
[01:08:37]  I think at that time he was in Tampa, but he was like the boss of that area.
[01:08:41]  And they meet with Santos Traficante in the Fountain Blue Hotel in Miami.
[01:08:47]  And Santos Traficante is like, Well, you know, I got to make sure that this is really in order.
[01:08:52]  They're like, The president, Nixon, who's about to be the president, wants this done.
[01:08:56]  Can you get this done for us?
[01:08:57]  He's like, Well, if you can prove that he really, you know, made this order and this is not you guys just doing this.
[01:09:02]  So they got a guy for the CIA employee.
[01:09:05]  To come down to Representative Nixon to give Traficante the green light.
[01:09:10]  So, Traficante recruits these guys from this CIA operation, Operation 40, who were these anti Castro Cubans who were conducting sabotage inside Cuba when Castro and Che and Raul were down there, you know, doing their thing.
[01:09:26]  And these Operation 40 guys, they picked a few of them, I think it was 10 or 15 of them, and they brought them to this ranch called Oaxaca Ranch.
[01:09:39]  And they were, and another ranch that was in South Florida, like near the Everglades.
[01:09:43]  And they were training these guys in what were called triangular fire teams.
[01:09:48]  So they would set up in a triangular formation of three shooters to take out a moving target.
[01:09:53]  And this was all in plans to kill Castro.
[01:09:57]  After training these guys, they obviously went there, you know, you know the stories.
[01:10:00]  They went down to Cuba to try to assassinate Castro.
[01:10:03]  They went twice, it was a failed attempt both times to kill Castro.
[01:10:08]  And then later on, it was the same Cubans.
[01:10:14]  Those Cubans were the ones that they tried to use to kill Kennedy.
[01:10:19]  So, when Kennedy, when they wanted to assassinate Kennedy, they figured out, they found out like the best shooters that we know that hated Kennedy because of all the shit that Kennedy did after the Bay of Pigs and all that stuff were these anti Castro Cubans.
[01:10:32]  They were great shooters.
[01:10:33]  They knew they could cover it up and they fucking hated Kennedy.
[01:10:35]  So, he was saying those were the guys who actually pulled the trigger in Dealey Plaza that killed Kennedy.
[01:10:42]  Later on, there's Watergate.
[01:10:44]  The guys that were caught in Watergate.
[01:10:46]  Was Bernard Barker one of them?
[01:10:48]  He was one of the anti Castro Cubans.
[01:10:50]  Now, the way they were funding these guys at this ranch, this Oaxaca ranch in Mexico during the triangular fire team training, was through a bank called the Banco Internacional.
[01:11:00]  And this bank is complicated, but they were skimming money off the mob casinos, sending it to Meyer Lansky's bank in Miami, and they were wiring it from Meyer Lansky's bank to the bank, Bank International in Mexico to pay these CIA mercenaries to train them how to kill Castro.
[01:11:19]  Which were eventually the same guys they used to kill the president, right?
[01:11:22]  So, fast forward to Watergate.
[01:11:26]  One of the guys that was in the hotel that got caught had a bank note in his pocket, had a bill, right?
[01:11:31]  They traced the bill back to that same bank.
[01:11:35]  Now, there was an FBI guy who was trying to investigate that dollar, that bank note, find out where it came from.
[01:11:44]  Somehow, the guy in Nixon's staff in the White House finds out about this investigation.
[01:11:51]  Calls up Richard Helms in the CIA and another guy in the FBI says, You need to meet with this guy, Mark Fent or Mark something, I forget his name.
[01:12:00]  They said, You need to stop this FBI investigation into that bank account because if you find out what was going on with those Cubans and why we were training them down in Mexico, you're going to peel off a scab and you're going to unleash a genie that we can't put back in the bottle because they knew if they investigated that bank, they would find out that those were the guys that they used to kill Kennedy.
[01:12:21]  And Nixon knew if they found out, That those Cubans were the ones that did kill Kennedy, they would be able to trace those Cubans back to Nixon and they would think Nixon was the one who tried to kill Kennedy, which he wasn't.
[01:12:34]  He would use those guys to kill Castro.
[01:12:36]  So he stepped down to stop the investigation?
[01:12:39]  So, no, there was a whole other thing with the investigation.
[01:12:41]  There was, I forget the guy's name, the other FBI guy.
[01:12:45]  There was a bunch of shit involved with Watergate.
[01:12:47]  But basically, the idea behind Watergate, the reason that this is what Danny Sheehan says the reason for Watergate was he wanted those guys to break in because they were going.
[01:12:58]  All of Howard Hughes, who was Nixon's biggest financial backer, biggest lobbyist for Nixon, if they found out all of his stuff that was in that hotel, they would find out about the shooters.
[01:13:13]  So Nixon didn't want any connection to him hiring those assassins to kill Castro because if they found out about that, they would find out that the same guys killed Kennedy and they would make the connection from Nixon to Kennedy.
[01:13:26]  Yeah, I understand.
[01:13:27]  They would assume that, which it wasn't true, but that was the reason for Watergate, according to Danny Sheehan.
[01:13:33]  Crazy complicated, right?
[01:13:34]  But it's an insane story.
[01:13:37]  Okay.
[01:13:39]  I mean, I thought Watergate, they were just breaking into the Democratic Party's headquarters just to try and plant bugs.
[01:13:45]  Yeah, that's the story, right?
[01:13:48]  But according to Danny, it was way bigger, way deeper than that.
[01:13:50]  It was because they didn't want to find out about who really killed the president.
[01:13:53]  And Danny claims that there's still Cubans that are alive today, anti Castro guys who were part of that CIA Operation 40, who actually were responsible for killing Kennedy.
[01:14:02]  So, what happened with Nixon anyway?
[01:14:04]  First, he ran against.
[01:14:08]  John F. Kennedy lost.
[01:14:10]  Then Kennedy got killed and LBJ took over.
[01:14:15]  LBJ stepped in.
[01:14:16]  Stepped in.
[01:14:16]  Then LBJ, was he reelected?
[01:14:19]  I don't think so.
[01:14:20]  Or did he lose against.
[01:14:21]  Did he lose against.
[01:14:23]  Because then Nixon runs again and wins.
[01:14:27]  And wins.
[01:14:28]  So that's what.
[01:14:28]  But I wonder if Watergate happens.
[01:14:30]  Yeah, well, once he won.
[01:14:32]  Yeah, because he was about to start running again.
[01:14:34]  So he's going to.
[01:14:36]  He wants some inside information on.
[01:14:38]  I thought that's the historic version.
[01:14:41]  Right.
[01:14:41]  He wanted inside information.
[01:14:43]  Yeah.
[01:14:43]  There's a lot of different theories on Watergate, but this was like the wildest one that I've ever heard.
[01:14:50]  And Danny Sheehan was a part of that whole investigation.
[01:14:52]  So he would know.
[01:14:53]  Danny actually interviewed that mob guy, Traficante, in Miami.
[01:14:58]  And Traficante told him that that's what happened.
[01:15:00]  That's why those guys were breaking in.
[01:15:05]  What's next?
[01:15:06]  Straight from the horse's mouth.
[01:15:07]  It doesn't get any crazier than that.
[01:15:09]  Dude, another thing about Trump is.
[01:15:14]  Ever since that debate with Biden, I mean, that was a fucking brutal moment, too.
[01:15:18]  That was like, I think that was the moment after that, in that debate where he goes, I don't know what he just said.
[01:15:24]  I don't think he knows either.
[01:15:26]  That was like, okay, this is done after that.
[01:15:29]  He was actually way more reserved than I thought he was.
[01:15:32]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:15:34]  He was just like super reserved, super magnanimous.
[01:15:38]  Yeah.
[01:15:38]  Since that election, right?
[01:15:39]  He hasn't been typical Trump.
[01:15:41]  I think during his first, during the first, um, You know, presidential run or whatever you want to call it.
[01:15:49]  I think he learned a lot.
[01:15:50]  Like, I think he, you know what I'm saying?
[01:15:52]  I think he learned, like, there's, you just can't say some stuff.
[01:15:55]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:15:56]  Not that he's learned a ton, but he's definitely tapered back the rhetoric, not a huge amount, but let's say 20%, 30%.
[01:16:04]  Like, he could have really been brutal to Biden, but he wasn't.

=== Mr. Johnson Vietnam Vet (02:51) ===

[01:16:07]  But he doesn't have to be anymore.
[01:16:09]  Like, it's like, listen, I remember one time, he doesn't.
[01:16:13]  One time I was evicting this guy and he was a former, um, Vietnam vet.
[01:16:21]  We had bought a bunch of, we bought like 20, my wife at the time, we bought like 20 units.
[01:16:27]  And so there's this guy who's literally got a water hose hooked up.
[01:16:32]  And then when we're trying to show the apartments, he's hosing people down.
[01:16:38]  And when the other tenants would come around, he'd hose them down.
[01:16:41]  Like he was just, he was just a huge nuisance, right?
[01:16:43]  And he was crazy.
[01:16:45]  And so we just started evicting him.
[01:16:47]  Now he's pay his rent, but his rent was nothing either.
[01:16:50]  We wanted to raise the rent by a, Two or three hundred bucks.
[01:16:52]  He'd been in there.
[01:16:52]  He'd just been a pain in the ass.
[01:16:54]  So, when we finally get to, and he did everything to stop it.
[01:16:57]  He hired an attorney.
[01:16:59]  We went to mediation.
[01:17:01]  He's just a lunatic.
[01:17:02]  Keep going.
[01:17:03]  He was a lunatic.
[01:17:04]  What ends up happening is he ends up, when we finally get to court, because the problem was he's paying his rent into the court.
[01:17:14]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:17:15]  Like, what a pain in the ass this guy.
[01:17:18]  Because we're not evicting him because he's not paying.
[01:17:24]  He's paying.
[01:17:25]  That's the worst of it.
[01:17:26]  He is paying, but he's such a nuisance.
[01:17:28]  We want him gone.
[01:17:29]  Right.
[01:17:30]  He doesn't have a lease anymore.
[01:17:31]  His lease is expired.
[01:17:32]  He just wouldn't leave, but he keeps paying.
[01:17:35]  So, anyway, we're trying to evict him.
[01:17:38]  We end up getting into court.
[01:17:40]  And when we got into court, the judge comes up and he's like, okay, listen, there's this.
[01:17:45]  They filed the three day notice.
[01:17:46]  They filed the 10 day notice.
[01:17:49]  They did this.
[01:17:49]  They did this.
[01:17:50]  You've been served.
[01:17:50]  Like, well, what is going on here?
[01:17:52]  And let's say the guy's name is like Mr. Johnson.
[01:17:54]  Mr. Johnson, you know, right.
[01:17:55]  He says, okay, what's going on?
[01:17:56]  And he looks at me and goes, Mr. Cox, he said, He said, What's going on here?
[01:18:00]  Like, I'm going to let you talk first.
[01:18:01]  And I went, You know, Your Honor, I said, I think you'll have a better understanding if you let Mr. Johnson explain.
[01:18:07]  And he's like, Okay.
[01:18:09]  He's like, whatever, jackass.
[01:18:11]  Like, he's like, All right, Mr. Johnson, why don't you go ahead and explain?
[01:18:15]  And he's like, Your Honor, I'm a Vietnam vet and these criminals, they're all over the place.
[01:18:19]  And I have to, I use my hose so that I don't shoot them and they're everywhere.
[01:18:25]  And he just starts, he rants and raves for like five, and as he's doing it, The judge is staring at him, and at some point he looks over at me, and I go like that.
[01:18:37]  And the judge goes, Okay, Mr. Johnson, I think I understand what's going on here.
[01:18:42]  He said, I'm, and then he, what was that?
[01:18:46]  It's the alarm for Kiriakou.
[01:18:47]  Oh, and then he, we got five minutes.
[01:18:49]  And then he goes, he ends up, the judge goes, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to allow the, you know, blah, blah, blah.
[01:18:55]  You've got 10 days to vacate, or you'll be, you know, removed, blah, blah, blah.
[01:18:58]  And it was over.

=== Side Door Screaming Guy (04:17) ===

[01:18:59]  That was it.
[01:18:59]  It's over.
[01:19:00]  Guy's still screaming when the judge fucking hauls ass.
[01:19:03]  He walks out like they have like a side door.
[01:19:04]  Judge like bolts out the side door.
[01:19:06]  The guy's still screaming.
[01:19:07]  We just walk away.
[01:19:08]  But it's like, that's kind of like how I felt Trump was at the thing.
[01:19:11]  He's like, I don't even have to say anything.
[01:19:14]  Go ahead and you answer this question.
[01:19:15]  Like, the more you answer these questions, Biden, the more people understand you can't let this continue.
[01:19:21]  I mean, even not even just during the debate, though, but like even after the fucking assassination attempt, like he wasn't on Twitter talking all this shit.
[01:19:31]  Like, yeah, he was calling out the fucking.
[01:19:34]  Radical, you know, he hasn't been as divisive as he was when he was first president.
[01:19:38]  Right.
[01:19:39]  He's been very, very reserved.
[01:19:41]  And even like his statement afterwards, like saying, like giving condolences for the people that were killed and all this stuff, like it's interesting.
[01:19:51]  And like when he talks on Thursday, it's going to be interesting because there's reports that he rewrote his script for his speech, right?
[01:20:00]  Right.
[01:20:01]  So I'm wondering if he's going to take the opportunity to come out and unite the country.
[01:20:08]  And not be typical, so overwhelmingly polarized, there's nothing he can say.
[01:20:14]  People don't want, they just don't want to believe.
[01:20:17]  Has he won over some more people?
[01:20:19]  Probably, you know?
[01:20:21]  I mean, but the people that are dug in, they're lunatics.
[01:20:25]  Like the people that are, they're just not, there's no reasoning with them.
[01:20:30]  He's a racist.
[01:20:30]  He called for this.
[01:20:31]  He called for that.
[01:20:32]  Like when?
[01:20:33]  Show me the film.
[01:20:33]  When did he say this?
[01:20:34]  When did he say that?
[01:20:35]  He doesn't need the polarizing, decisive.
[01:20:39]  A divisive messaging anymore, though.
[01:20:40]  He doesn't need that.
[01:20:41]  It's done.
[01:20:42]  He's already won.
[01:20:43]  My point is can.
[01:20:44]  What I'm saying is that those people that have already decided to vote for Biden, they're voting for him no matter what Trump says.
[01:20:49]  Right.
[01:20:50]  It doesn't matter.
[01:20:51]  For sure.
[01:20:51]  For sure.
[01:20:51]  If Trump, if Biden came out and started saying just horrific things, they wouldn't change their vote.
[01:20:58]  No.
[01:20:58]  Nothing would change it.
[01:20:59]  No.
[01:20:59]  So there's nothing for him to do.
[01:21:00]  The P's got his base, it's more than 50%.
[01:21:05]  It's going to be a landslide in the electoral vote.
[01:21:08]  And he's like, I've got it.
[01:21:09]  I just have to not say anything overwhelmingly stupid at this point, which I'm sure his handlers, that's an issue.
[01:21:15]  You know, he's always going to sit trying to say something crazy.
[01:21:18]  So they're probably like, just stick with what the teleprompter says.
[01:21:21]  That's it.
[01:21:22]  That's all you have to do.
[01:21:23]  You walk into the White House.
[01:21:26]  What do you think he's going to do to get rid of the Ukraine situation?
[01:21:30]  What do I think he's going to do?
[01:21:31]  Because you know, on day one, he's going to want to try and nip that in the bud.
[01:21:34]  I mean, I hope he does.
[01:21:36]  I hope.
[01:21:36]  I mean, look, I don't know shit about fuck about how that works or like who's in charge of the Ukraine war.
[01:21:46]  I know it goes deep into like the EU is involved with this and the globalists, as Alex would say.
[01:21:57]  There's a lot of other countries that are really invested in this war.
[01:22:00]  I don't know how he would pull out of that.
[01:22:05]  I think it might be somewhat easy.
[01:22:12]  But there's a lot of pieces on that chessboard to move to make that happen.
[01:22:19]  But just the threat of just him saying he's going to do it has people freaking the f out.
[01:22:26]  I mean, I think that's all you have to do is freak Putin out.
[01:22:29]  You just have to get Putin to say, okay, you have to kind of go in there and say, look, you keep what you already have.
[01:22:35]  That's it.
[01:22:36]  What you got, that's it.
[01:22:37]  And then, or we're going to send in US troops.
[01:22:39]  Yeah, I mean, just put you out.
[01:22:41]  Diplomacy, man.
[01:22:42]  It's just like, I think he, I mean, that's the one thing that he did when one of the good things that he did.
[01:22:47]  John, what's up, man?
[01:22:49]  Thanks for coming on and talking to us on this little podcast, just trying to react to what's been going on with the whole Trump thing and how it happened.
[01:23:00]  I know you have your show that you do every day.
[01:23:04]  And you guys have been covering this.
[01:23:06]  What is your view on what happened on, I think it was Saturday with Trump and everything that's coming out?
[01:23:14]  What is your view on everything?

=== Butler County Screw Up (15:05) ===

[01:23:16]  You know, I think the easiest explanation is probably the best explanation at this early stage, and that is that this was a colossal, historic screw up on the part of the U.S. Secret Service.
[01:23:31]  You know, let me add a little detail, too.
[01:23:34]  Walking distance from this location, the Butler County Fairgrounds and Farm Show.
[01:23:40]  Never missed a year when I was a kid.
[01:23:42]  There's nothing to do in Western Pennsylvania.
[01:23:45]  And so we would go to the farm and the farm show and the fair.
[01:23:49]  And it's a big deal because politicians always come and they have these events.
[01:23:53]  So it's not like it's the first time anybody's ever come to Butler County.
[01:23:56]  You know, this is something that they should have been used to.
[01:23:58]  Now, getting to the screw up here you've got a guy that's not just a presidential candidate, presidential nominee, but he's a former president of the United States.
[01:24:08]  And the only job of the Secret Service is to protect the candidate.
[01:24:16]  That's it.
[01:24:17]  And what they're telling us today is that they essentially outsourced coverage of these external buildings to the Butler County, Pennsylvania Sheriff's Department.
[01:24:30]  You know, when I first heard that, I wanted to laugh because this is literally not something you would ever do if you are the Secret Service.
[01:24:39]  Now, going back just a little bit, you know, there were two major assassinations in 1968, of course.
[01:24:50]  In 1972, George Wallace was shot and wounded in Laurel, Maryland.
[01:24:55]  He was running for president on the American party ticket.
[01:24:58]  In 1981, Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan was shot and grievously wounded.
[01:25:06]  So after each one of these shootings, there was a top to bottom review.
[01:25:13]  Of the Secret Services procedures.
[01:25:15]  This is the term that they're using yesterday and today a top to bottom review.
[01:25:19]  So we've gone from 1981 until Saturday with no credible attempts against the life of a candidate.
[01:25:25]  So why now?
[01:25:27]  How was a 20 year old able to climb to the roof of a building within direct line of sight of the former president of the United States, stay there for quite some time, be confronted at least twice that we know of, and still get a shot off?
[01:25:43]  That doesn't make any kind of sense to me at all.
[01:25:46]  Major, major screw up.
[01:25:48]  And not only that, but after the Secret Service agents jumped on top of him and dogpiled him, they let him stand up with shoulder to head fully exposed around those guys as he barged through those Secret Service agents to like show his strength and like pump his fist to his audience.
[01:26:08]  If there was a second shooter, if this was anything remotely similar to the JFK setup, if it was a triangular hit team or multiple shooters or whatever.
[01:26:18]  That was a turkey shot, an easy shot for a second shooter to get off, even after that first guy was neutralized.
[01:26:25]  You are exactly right.
[01:26:26]  You are 100% right.
[01:26:27]  And let me add something to that, too.
[01:26:29]  I happened to be with my son, my 20 year old son, when we heard news of this attempt on Donald Trump.
[01:26:36]  And he said to me, you know, he said, about four weeks ago, I went to a NASCAR event in North Carolina, right?
[01:26:42]  50,000 people in this, whatever it is, track.
[01:26:47]  And Donald Trump was the guest of honor.
[01:26:50]  So they have him stand on this balcony on top of the press area where the press is gathered to overlook the track.
[01:27:02]  He's the only person wearing a red hat.
[01:27:06]  He was standing out there in front of everybody.
[01:27:10]  There was no security to get in, you didn't have to go through any metal detector or anything.
[01:27:14]  And he turned to his girlfriend, my son did, and said, My God, if somebody wanted to kill Trump, he said, This would be like fish in a barrel.
[01:27:24]  So apparently this is a bigger problem than just somebody screwed up on Saturday.
[01:27:30]  This is a problem with the actual standard operating procedure of protecting a candidate that the Secret Service has implemented.
[01:27:39]  Now, you were in CIA for how many years?
[01:27:43]  15.
[01:27:44]  15 years, and you were overseas in war zones working with armed military, taking out people like Abu Zubaydah, capturing him.
[01:27:54]  I'm sure you've been in situations similar to this where there has to be like a perimeter set up or like people that have to be on watch.
[01:28:03]  How does this typically work?
[01:28:05]  Do you know anything about like how the perimeters have to be set up, how wide they have to be?
[01:28:10]  Yeah, actually.
[01:28:12]  And I had this conversation today with a friend of mine who happens to be a former FBI agent as well.
[01:28:18]  And we were in agreement that you have to sweep literally every building, you set up a perimeter around or that includes every building.
[01:28:28]  With line of sight to the candidate.
[01:28:31]  And you keep sweeping it.
[01:28:33]  Now, if there are buildings, multiple buildings, you have somebody on literally every single roof just so that something like this doesn't happen.
[01:28:43]  And as long ago as 10 years, we were using drones to supplement the human surveillance at places like Bagram Air Base.
[01:28:55]  You know, Bagram, you've got a prison in the center, and then there's a perimeter around that, and then you've got the living area, and you've got a prison.
[01:29:02]  You've got the working area and there's a perimeter around that.
[01:29:05]  Then you've got guys outside the fence walking that perimeter.
[01:29:09]  But then you've got two, three, four drones overhead and somebody inside monitoring the drone coverage.
[01:29:18]  Again, this is a former president of the United States and there was no drone coverage?
[01:29:25]  We're supposed to just accept that the Butler County, Pennsylvania Sheriff's Department was responsible for this?
[01:29:33]  No.
[01:29:34]  That's just not real life.
[01:29:36]  And is it possible that the sheriff's department, I mean, there's footage of the guy climbing on the roof with cops walking around the building looking at him.
[01:29:46]  And then there was obviously like everyone's aware of the report of the cop actually climbing up there and then like falling off after the guy points his rifle at him.
[01:29:53]  Is there any sort of radio frequency between these cops and the Secret Service?
[01:29:59]  Like you would imagine that the cop would be able to just to like turn on his radio right then and there and say shooter.
[01:30:04]  No, in most cases, no.
[01:30:06]  So, what in most cases, because this is just like a not just even a one day event, it's a one hour event or three hour event altogether.
[01:30:14]  The cop would radio back to his dispatch, dispatch would be liaising with Secret Service, and then the Secret Service dispatcher would radio Secret Service.
[01:30:24]  So, you're going to lose, you know, 15 seconds maybe, which is plenty of time to kill somebody.
[01:30:30]  But that's how haphazardly this was arranged.
[01:30:33]  And, you know, it's easy to fall into this.
[01:30:36]  This rut, well, you know, nobody's taken a shot at a presidential candidate since 1981.
[01:30:42]  They're not going to do it in Butler, Pennsylvania.
[01:30:45]  Let's just get through this one hour and then we wrap it all up and we go on to Milwaukee.
[01:30:49]  I guarantee you that's what these guys were thinking.
[01:30:52]  And the sniper, there's reports that the sniper saw the guy on the roof like five minutes before he took the shots and they were looking at him the whole time.
[01:31:02]  And then he like, he was radioing his superior about it.
[01:31:05]  They knew he was there and they said, don't take the shot.
[01:31:07]  And I assume.
[01:31:08]  I don't know what it's like to be a guy who sits on the roof with a sniper for three hours.
[01:31:12]  I can't imagine how boring that must be, especially when you're doing it like on multiple events, like throughout, you know, whatever the month.
[01:31:18]  But like, I imagine there's got to be some sort of fear of maybe like, maybe that guy is like a SWAT guy I don't know about on that roof.
[01:31:28]  I don't want to take out like an innocent cop or something like that.
[01:31:32]  What do you make of that guy being aware of the guy being there and not being able to take the shot until there were eight shots fired?
[01:31:38]  Well, your assumption is exactly correct.
[01:31:41]  So, can you imagine you're a sniper for the Secret Service?
[01:31:44]  You go through a 30 year career, never ever fire the weapon.
[01:31:46]  I can't fucking imagine, dude.
[01:31:48]  That's what we were saying.
[01:31:50]  That's crazy.
[01:31:51]  But yeah, your thought is a good one.
[01:31:53]  The sniper has to be thinking is that one of the cops?
[01:31:56]  Is that a Pennsylvania State trooper?
[01:31:58]  Is it the janitor for that building who wandered onto the roof to get a better look?
[01:32:04]  Should I shoot him?
[01:32:06]  If I shoot him, I'm trained to kill him.
[01:32:08]  So maybe I shouldn't shoot him.
[01:32:09]  I should probably radio in and say, hey, there's this guy.
[01:32:12]  Now, as it turned out, rather than, once shots were being fired, rather than radio back to dispatch and ask for permission to shoot, he just shot, which, you know, thank God he did.
[01:32:25]  Right.
[01:32:27]  But the system is such that it's not efficient enough to save a candidate who's under fire.
[01:32:34]  It's just not.
[01:32:35]  Can I ask a question?
[01:32:36]  Yeah, I got my friend Matt Cox here.
[01:32:38]  He wants to ask you a question as well.
[01:32:41]  Does he think that it was just incompetence, or does he think that there's a possibility that it was done specifically for a reason, like to leave open, you know, I don't know, an opportunity for someone to take a shot?
[01:32:58]  Sure.
[01:32:58]  Lots and lots of people are talking about that today and yesterday.
[01:33:02]  And my gut response is no, or likely, likely no, only because an operation like that would have so many moving parts that it would be virtually impossible to carry out.
[01:33:19]  And I mentioned this today to this FBI friend of mine.
[01:33:22]  And she said, you know, she's given this a lot of thought as well.
[01:33:25]  And if they were going to do that, they wouldn't have outsourced it to a 20 year old.
[01:33:31]  You know, just some local yokel from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania.
[01:33:36]  And they wouldn't have done it in front of thousands of people.
[01:33:39]  It's just not the way they would carry out an operation like that.
[01:33:43]  Not that they have in the past.
[01:33:45]  Right.
[01:33:45]  That's not what I'm saying.
[01:33:47]  But in the event that there was an operation, they would miss.
[01:33:51]  Yeah.
[01:33:52]  They would, number one, they wouldn't, they wouldn't, they would, if it was the military or any kind of U.S., any kind of U.S. organization, Trump would not be here right now.
[01:33:59]  So he's, so that's right.
[01:34:00]  Is he?
[01:34:01]  So, what you're saying is if it's a patsy situation where the kid is just a patsy, at the very least, they're going to have snipers to take him out, to take out Trump.
[01:34:09]  You're exactly right.
[01:34:10]  And there would have to be secondary and tertiary levels just in case the kid missed or the kid needed to be taken out.
[01:34:19]  Right.
[01:34:20]  You remember seeing the video of Lee Harvey Oswald saying, I'm just a patsy right before he was killed.
[01:34:25]  You know, that's something I think we're always going to have to be thinking about in situations like this.
[01:34:31]  Now, What do you make of it?
[01:34:35]  I mean, I've watched, I've been watching as well as everyone probably has been watching, I've been watching hundreds and hundreds of people's takes on what happened over the last two days.
[01:34:45]  And it seems like an overwhelming majority of people who have been looking at this and people talking heads on YouTube that have been, you know, doing a play by play, the consensus is that it was the United States that was behind this or the quote, deep state was behind this because their evidence is like, look at the last.
[01:35:04]  Four years of how they tried to take out Trump with all these other things.
[01:35:07]  With, like, you know, there was Russiagate, there was the trial, the show trial in New York, then there was what else was the document case?
[01:35:19]  Yeah, there's so many things that they've tried to do to take him out of the race.
[01:35:24]  And then now you have an assassination.
[01:35:25]  Well, isn't that convenient, right?
[01:35:28]  Like, that seems to be the overwhelming consensus.
[01:35:30]  And I don't know because I wasn't alive back when Reagan, they tried to take out Reagan, but was.
[01:35:35]  Was it like that?
[01:35:37]  It wasn't taking nobody tried to take out Reagan.
[01:35:39]  Who's the guy that was shot?
[01:35:41]  It was Reagan, right?
[01:35:42]  Yeah, Reagan was shot by John Hinckley, right?
[01:35:45]  So, right, exactly.
[01:35:46]  So, when Reagan was shot, was that America talking about it the way they're talking about it right now?
[01:35:52]  Like, was America thinking, Oh my god, this was America that took him out of the deep state or whatever?
[01:35:57]  No, no, no, no, the whole country pulled together.
[01:35:59]  Reagan's popularity went into the 90s, the whole country came together, right?
[01:36:04]  Um, it's so different, you know, you and I. You and I, Danny, have talked about this in the past.
[01:36:09]  I've been in Washington for 42 years.
[01:36:12]  I came here, I moved here the week after I turned 18 to go to college.
[01:36:16]  And it has become such an ugly, mean-spirited city.
[01:36:23]  I'm not able to compare it to any other place that I've been in the world.
[01:36:29]  And so that's why we have these rumors.
[01:36:32]  That's why we have rational people, like people I respect, for example, going on Twitter, going on Facebook and saying, it was the deep state.
[01:36:40]  Well, like I said, there are so many moving parts to a conspiracy that if it was the deep state, they would have gotten them ages ago.
[01:36:51]  They wouldn't have to have.
[01:36:52]  You know, trumped up federal and state charges and, and, you know, found this 20 year old idiot to climb onto a roof.
[01:37:01]  They would have gotten him.
[01:37:02]  They would have gotten him somehow.
[01:37:04]  I've got a buddy who's a retired colonel in the army and kind of a prominent Republican fundraiser now.
[01:37:11]  And he told me over the weekend that he went to Mar a Lago about six months ago for a fundraising event.
[01:37:20]  And he and his wife are, Not only have concealed carry permits, but they're concealed carry instructors.
[01:37:28]  And so he pulls up to Mar a Lago, and the Secret Service stops him at the gate and, hey, folks, how are you tonight?
[01:37:35]  Do you have any weapons in the car?
[01:37:36]  And he said, actually, we do.
[01:37:37]  We've got two weapons in the trunk, but they're both secured.
[01:37:40]  The Secret Service guy says, I'm sorry, you can't bring them onto the ground.
[01:37:43]  He said, fine.
[01:37:44]  He let his wife out, drove back to the hotel, locked up his guns in the safe, and then went back to Mar a Lago 15, 20 minutes later.
[01:37:51]  But he said, the point is, nobody ever searched the car.
[01:37:55]  And if he had said, no, I don't have any guns, he could have walked right into that ballroom fully armed.
[01:38:05]  What is the Secret Service thinking?
[01:38:07]  This is a systemic problem here.
[01:38:11]  It's not just what happened Saturday.
[01:38:13]  It's through the entire system of protection that the Secret Service is supposed to be implementing.
[01:38:20]  Right.

=== Foreign Adversary Threat (08:27) ===

[01:38:22]  How much credit do you give to the idea that it could have been a A foreign adversary like China, Russia, or Iran.
[01:38:31]  Right.
[01:38:31]  Well, that's something that the FBI mentioned right off the bat, that it's something that they have to consider.
[01:38:39]  How possible or how probable do you think something like that would be?
[01:38:45]  Unlikely.
[01:38:46]  You know, when John Kennedy was killed, the Soviets came to us within minutes.
[01:38:54]  And at the CIA, you know, we keep all these historical documents.
[01:38:57]  You can.
[01:38:57]  As a junior analyst, you can just go through them and get an idea of what it was like back then.
[01:39:01]  They came to us within minutes of Kennedy being killed and saying, We swear to God it wasn't us.
[01:39:08]  We swear it wasn't us.
[01:39:09]  The Chinese did the same thing.
[01:39:11]  And then the Cubans asked the Mexicans to tell us, Look, it wasn't us.
[01:39:19]  Right.
[01:39:20]  So that, I mean, that's a trigger for World War III.
[01:39:25]  Absolutely.
[01:39:25]  If you try to take out a candidate for president of the United States.
[01:39:29]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:39:30]  It's just not worth the blowback potential.
[01:39:32]  Once again, you're not going to use the 20 year old.
[01:39:34]  It's the same thing.
[01:39:34]  It's there.
[01:39:35]  It's going to be, even if they're going to do it, it's going to be a successful operation.
[01:39:39]  They're not going to leave anything to chance.
[01:39:40]  Yeah.
[01:39:41]  They're not going to put it in the hands of a 20 year old kid.
[01:39:43]  So it's not going to be from 145 yards either.
[01:39:46]  It's going to be from 500 yards or 800 yards.
[01:39:49]  Oh, really?
[01:39:49]  Any idea where it came from?
[01:39:52]  If you're going to use a professional sniper to do it, first of all, he's not going to use an AR 15 with, you know, by all accounts, you know, 22 or 5.56 or whatever, whatever.
[01:40:02]  You know, rounds, right?
[01:40:03]  He was shooting.
[01:40:04]  If you have a professional sniper, he's going to be so far away you can't even see him and he's not going to miss.
[01:40:13]  Yeah, it's crazy, man.
[01:40:17]  What do you think would have happened if that bullet would have hit him and taken him out?
[01:40:24]  What do you think the reaction would have been?
[01:40:27]  I heard a take, my buddy Julian was saying that if the bullet would have hit him, it would have been like a Franz Ferdinand moment.
[01:40:34]  The bullet that took out Franz Ferdinand to start World War I.
[01:40:39]  He said civil war doesn't even do it justice.
[01:40:43]  It would be far bigger.
[01:40:44]  You know, I mentioned a few minutes ago, Danny, So many of my friends, like a lot of high school friends, for example, who still live in the area in Western Pennsylvania, these are people I've liked and respected all my life.
[01:40:54]  We may not agree on politics, but we like and respect each other.
[01:40:58]  We're in each other's weddings.
[01:40:59]  We visit each other.
[01:41:00]  You get the idea.
[01:41:02]  And that's exactly what they were talking about.
[01:41:04]  They would have armed themselves within moments and they would have taken to the streets.
[01:41:08]  I think that's exactly what would have happened.
[01:41:10]  Yeah.
[01:41:11]  This was as close a call as we could have had.
[01:41:14]  So, like, I guess the idea, like, I understand what you're saying.
[01:41:19]  If this was an intelligence operation, it would have been successful.
[01:41:22]  It would not have been so sloppy.
[01:41:24]  But like, what about the idea that the kid could have been MKUltra or like some sort of foreign agent could have used him and coerced him and subverted him into talking him up and saying, oh, this might be a good idea?
[01:41:40]  Even if it was a failure, maybe it could at the very least incite chaos in the US.
[01:41:48]  Disrupt the system a bit and disrupt the populace.
[01:41:52]  You know, at the very best, maybe the freaking crazy kid gets lucky and hits his shot.
[01:41:58]  But you're saying, you're essentially saying that no, that's too sloppy.
[01:42:03]  Even if it was just one kid that they tried to brainwash or subvert somehow, they would have had a backup option in place.
[01:42:12]  Yeah, they would have.
[01:42:13]  And, you know, not every country is capable of carrying out an operation like that, especially if.
[01:42:19]  If you're talking about MKUltra and mind control and hypnosis and all that stuff, you're talking about three, four, five countries that are able to do it Russia, China, Israel, North Korea.
[01:42:31]  That's probably about it.
[01:42:33]  Right.
[01:42:33]  Well, we know it wasn't Israel.
[01:42:35]  Israel just gave him $100 million, right?
[01:42:38]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:42:39]  Adelson's.
[01:42:40]  Yeah, exactly right.
[01:42:42]  $100, $150 million, something like that.
[01:42:44]  Insane.
[01:42:46]  But yeah, again, the blowback potential is such that, you know, I mean, Let's say the Chinese did this.
[01:42:54]  Right.
[01:42:55]  And we were able to develop information confirming that the Chinese had done it.
[01:42:59]  I mean, you're talking about a nuclear exchange being the next step.
[01:43:04]  If it had been successful.
[01:43:05]  Question.
[01:43:05]  And we had not the Chinese.
[01:43:07]  Matt has a question.
[01:43:10]  First off, I think it was just a 20 year old.
[01:43:12]  But, you know, for the content's sake, assuming that it was.
[01:43:22]  I don't know, whatever you want to call it, deep state or an attempted assassination that failed.
[01:43:29]  And if it was an attempted assassination that failed, in your opinion, do they just take their ball and go home?
[01:43:39]  Or do they and just say, hey, Trump's going to win it?
[01:43:42]  We messed up?
[01:43:43]  Or do they try again?
[01:43:47]  That's a good question.
[01:43:47]  Very good.
[01:43:48]  And I agree with you.
[01:43:49]  I think it was the kid.
[01:43:53]  If it were an operation, yes, you pick up the ball and you go home.
[01:43:58]  Let's use this as an example.
[01:44:00]  Really?
[01:44:01]  Oh, yeah.
[01:44:01]  Yeah.
[01:44:02]  Once you've blown it, that's it.
[01:44:04]  It's done.
[01:44:05]  It's over.
[01:44:05]  You had your shot.
[01:44:06]  It was one shot.
[01:44:07]  It's over.
[01:44:09]  And then you deal with the blowback.
[01:44:12]  You know, that's why you got to get it right the first time.
[01:44:16]  Look at the Bay of Pigs, for example.
[01:44:17]  The only reason that the Bay of Pigs failed was because John Kennedy made a strategic policy decision not to provide air cover.
[01:44:25]  Right.
[01:44:25]  So we didn't say, all right, everybody, let's try it again in two weeks.
[01:44:31]  And this time we use air cover.
[01:44:33]  No, we just took our lumps and went home.
[01:44:37]  And that's the way it happens.
[01:44:39]  Okay, finally, maybe you can educate us numbskulls on who is this guy who's the new vice president.
[01:44:46]  And what do you make of that?
[01:44:49]  Can you give us some sort of like educated opinion on this guy and what this means?
[01:44:54]  This is actually kind of a bold choice.
[01:44:59]  So, JD Vance was famous well before he ever entered politics.
[01:45:04]  He's very young, he's 39 years old.
[01:45:07]  He's a self made billionaire from a hedge fund that he created on Wall Street.
[01:45:11]  But this guy grew up in abject poverty in the Appalachia. Area of southern Ohio.
[01:45:20]  And he was raised by his grandmother.
[01:45:24]  His mother was a heroin and meth addict and was never a major part of his life.
[01:45:29]  And so his grandmother stressed education, education, education.
[01:45:34]  And he was a smart kid.
[01:45:36]  And so he won scholarships.
[01:45:38]  He went to school.
[01:45:39]  He ended up going to Yale and then made it big, big on Wall Street.
[01:45:46]  He wrote a book called Hillbilly Elegy.
[01:45:48]  Talking about coming out of this abject poverty, but not as a lefty.
[01:45:56]  He picked himself up by his bootstraps and he did it through hard work, not because welfare paid for this or welfare paid for that.
[01:46:03]  That's what Hillbilly Elegy was about.
[01:46:05]  It became quite a popular and successful movie.
[01:46:09]  And then he decided to go into politics.
[01:46:12]  The interesting thing to me is that he was an anti Trump Republican for a long time.
[01:46:17]  I saw that.
[01:46:19]  He wrote quite a powerful op ed saying that Donald Trump was an idiot and a monster.
[01:46:23]  And then we learned from Donald Trump Jr. just a week ago that the choice probably wouldn't be JD Vance because Donald Sr. has this visceral dislike of facial hair.
[01:46:37]  And he had mentioned to family members he couldn't stand the thought of looking at JD Vance every day with a beard and mustache.
[01:46:45]  Oh, my God.
[01:46:46]  That's insane.
[01:46:47]  He's smart.
[01:46:48]  He's rich.

=== JD Vance Facial Hair (08:56) ===

[01:46:49]  He's selfish.
[01:46:49]  Made.
[01:46:50]  He's a great campaigner.
[01:46:52]  And like I say, I think this was actually a pretty bold choice.
[01:46:55]  Interesting.
[01:46:57]  Well, awesome.
[01:46:59]  I can't thank you enough, John.
[01:47:00]  I appreciate all your insight and for answering our questions here today.
[01:47:03]  It really gives us some credibility here for doing this podcast.
[01:47:08]  We don't have any.
[01:47:08]  We have no business talking about this kind of shit by ourselves.
[01:47:13]  So thanks again, man.
[01:47:14]  I really appreciate it.
[01:47:16]  Yes, sir.
[01:47:16]  I love you, man.
[01:47:17]  And I'll talk to you very soon.
[01:47:19]  Bye bye.
[01:47:20]  Looking forward to it.
[01:47:20]  See you, John.
[01:47:24]  I tell you what makes me feel better is how close everything we said was to what he's kind of saying.
[01:47:32]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:47:33]  It was pretty, not perfect, but pretty close.
[01:47:36]  Yeah.
[01:47:37]  Except for me saying, like, they're not going to take their ball and going home.
[01:47:41]  He's like, oh, no, no, take your ball and go home.
[01:47:43]  Really?
[01:47:43]  Yeah.
[01:47:43]  Everyone else is, yeah, that's what Alex Jones was saying the opposite.
[01:47:46]  He goes, they're going for fucking oak.
[01:47:48]  Yeah.
[01:47:49]  Interesting.
[01:47:49]  Well, but the other stuff.
[01:47:54]  We will see.
[01:47:55]  Yeah.
[01:47:55]  Other stuff was um, spot on.
[01:47:57]  I thought we gave some.
[01:47:59]  Oh wow, look at that, we can see ourselves.
[01:48:01]  Look at you, Matt Cox.
[01:48:02]  You look, you've got a damn.
[01:48:03]  Do I really look like that?
[01:48:04]  I need a haircut dude, are you kidding me?
[01:48:06]  Look when I smile.
[01:48:07]  Look when I smile, let me see, let's see, let's see my smile.
[01:48:10]  Look, look at that beautiful smile.
[01:48:12]  Look at, this is in.
[01:48:13]  Oh, the crow's feet Matt, you need some.
[01:48:15]  Get some Biden botox, dude.
[01:48:16]  I'm not doing it, I don't want to do it.
[01:48:19]  It's embarrassing enough.
[01:48:20]  I got the hair plug.
[01:48:21]  Look how great your hairline is, though.
[01:48:23]  It does look amazing.
[01:48:24]  Your hairline looks fantastic, but oh man, I need to lose some weight.
[01:48:29]  Oh, did I tell you this?
[01:48:30]  Oh, God.
[01:48:31]  If I've been hunching over, my God, Steven, you couldn't say something.
[01:48:37]  I'm getting a haircut tomorrow.
[01:48:38]  I look terrible.
[01:48:38]  If my wife was here, she'd be holding her shoulders back like that, right?
[01:48:41]  Yeah, hold your shoulders back.
[01:48:43]  You want to hear something funny?
[01:48:44]  Yeah.
[01:48:46]  I'm supposed to be going on Fresh and Fit.
[01:48:48]  Oh, yeah, you told me that tomorrow, right?
[01:48:50]  No, no, no, no.
[01:48:51]  This is like the 22nd.
[01:48:53]  I'm sure they record them and put them out.
[01:48:55]  But, like, I've talked to them or their.
[01:48:59]  Business, their producer, whatever, back and forth on the email.
[01:49:02]  And, you know, and here's the thing like, I'm flying in there and then I'm flying to Dallas because I have a, like a speaking, not speaking thing, but I have like a shoot that I have to do.
[01:49:16]  And then I'm flying back, like, I'm like, boom, boom, boom.
[01:49:19]  Wow, dude.
[01:49:20]  I feel like a big shot.
[01:49:22]  You are a big shot.
[01:49:23]  God, that's insane.
[01:49:25]  But I still haven't got the address.
[01:49:27]  I mean, I'll get the address.
[01:49:28]  But other than that.
[01:49:29]  It's confirmed, though.
[01:49:30]  It's in Miami, right?
[01:49:31]  They said it was confirmed, bro.
[01:49:32]  Like, I don't know.
[01:49:32]  You know, it's.
[01:49:34]  Yeah, no, it's in Miami.
[01:49:35]  It's on Brickle.
[01:49:36]  By the way, we haven't even talked about this yet.
[01:49:38]  We haven't talked about this since you did it.
[01:49:40]  You did the longest podcast ever recorded on Lex Friedman's channel.
[01:49:43]  No, we did talk about it.
[01:49:44]  Didn't we talk about it?
[01:49:45]  Yeah, but that podcast never aired.
[01:49:47]  Oh, you put it on Patreon.
[01:49:48]  Yeah, that's how you get the Patreon people.
[01:49:50]  That's right.
[01:49:51]  Exclusive.
[01:49:51]  We use Matt as a little carrot for the patrons.
[01:49:56]  What a great day for you, man.
[01:49:58]  The Patreon.
[01:49:59]  That was pretty cool.
[01:50:00]  Pretty cool.
[01:50:02]  Yeah.
[01:50:02]  Anyways.
[01:50:03]  I mean, Patreon.
[01:50:03]  I'm sorry.
[01:50:04]  The Lex Friedman thing.
[01:50:04]  What is this?
[01:50:06]  Trump shooter was.
[01:50:07]  Oh, yeah, dude.
[01:50:08]  This is so, oh, yeah.
[01:50:09]  So Demolition Ranch, these guys in Texas.
[01:50:12]  He had the shirt.
[01:50:13]  He had the shirt.
[01:50:14]  Yeah, man.
[01:50:15]  I know these guys, and I was just talking to him last week.
[01:50:17]  And then I just saw today the dude was wearing a Demolition Ranch shirt.
[01:50:20]  Yeah.
[01:50:21]  And now this guy's getting a, I don't know if he's getting a lot of shit.
[01:50:24]  I don't know.
[01:50:25]  But I mean, he said he's been getting a lot of like media questioning him about it.
[01:50:30]  So what?
[01:50:30]  So this is his, he made a statement on them wearing his shirt.
[01:50:34]  Let's see what he said.
[01:50:38]  It's horrible.
[01:50:39]  Wow, the audio is terrible.
[01:50:40]  Why is it so fucking bad?
[01:50:42]  Jesus Christ.
[01:50:43]  Hold on.
[01:50:43]  Julian's on the phone.
[01:50:45]  Julian Dory, finger on the pulse.
[01:50:47]  Give us the update.
[01:50:49]  Nobody's got more inside info on the Trump assassination than Julian motherfucking Dory.
[01:50:55]  He's already done 100 podcasts on this thing.
[01:50:57]  He's been up for three days straight.
[01:51:00]  Just got off a live stream with Jim DiOrio, special agent.
[01:51:03]  The most underrated podcaster on YouTube.
[01:51:07]  Yes.
[01:51:08]  Julian.
[01:51:10]  What's happening?
[01:51:12]  We're on air, baby.
[01:51:13]  We're on air.
[01:51:14]  Holy shit, we're on air.
[01:51:15]  We're doing it live.
[01:51:19]  What's happening, dude?
[01:51:20]  What's Jimmy D say about this?
[01:51:22]  Jimmy D just dropped balls of fiery flames for two hours on a podcast while I was in production hell.
[01:51:29]  So I'm going to listen to it back and see what he said.
[01:51:31]  But it sounded really smart.
[01:51:32]  Yeah.
[01:51:33]  We were watching it.
[01:51:34]  Has he lost weight?
[01:51:35]  Oh, yeah.
[01:51:35]  He's lost a lot of weight, dude.
[01:51:37]  He looks way thinner.
[01:51:37]  He looks beautiful.
[01:51:39]  Jim 2.0 is a real thing.
[01:51:42]  He's a real thing.
[01:51:44]  But, yeah, as far as what we're hearing, any inside info, so to speak, wink, wink, that I have is not go to market.
[01:51:54]  It's off the record stuff.
[01:51:57]  But let's just say there are some very eye opening mistakes that occurred behind the scenes.
[01:52:05]  And like I was saying on the live I did last night myself, when I talked to all these different pipe hitters who were watching.
[01:52:11]  Pipe hitters.
[01:52:11]  I love that fucking word.
[01:52:12]  I'm going to start using that pipe hitters.
[01:52:14]  That's fucking such a good word.
[01:52:16]  Once Dale Comstock started using that, like, you know, they were all pipe hitters.
[01:52:20]  I'm like, I'm going to use that.
[01:52:21]  Fucking pipe hitters.
[01:52:23]  Yeah.
[01:52:23]  That could go two ways, though.
[01:52:26]  Yeah, well, unless he was cracking up the first time he used it on air, because, and I had to turn to him and say that doesn't mean what you think it means.
[01:52:32]  But, but they, there are some eye opening things, some serious concerns, definitely some security concerns moving forward that, you know, some of these guys, and I know Jim was really pounding the table on this, you know, that there may very well be some private security to help supplement what's going on here because, you know, the just the lack of preparation and the perimeter that we saw was insane.
[01:52:58]  But, I had a really good call with Remy Adeleke today, who's a 12 year Navy SEAL and done all kinds of badass shit around the world.
[01:53:11]  He has heard some things and seen some things that are really concerning.
[01:53:16]  I think everyone's on the same page.
[01:53:18]  They want to make sure there's no violence of any sort that occurs against either of these candidates or anyone associated with them for the next 100 days, especially, so that we can just calm the fuck down as a country.
[01:53:30]  Check out this hot take.
[01:53:32]  We just had Kariyaku piped in through Skype, and he was saying that if it was, he doesn't believe this was a deep state assassination attempt.
[01:53:41]  He believed it was just a lone 20 year old psycho.
[01:53:43]  He was saying that if it was a deep state operation or any kind of government agency that was doing this, he said if they failed on the first attempt, they will not try again.
[01:53:55]  They'll take their ball and go home, just like the Bay of Pigs.
[01:53:58]  I agree.
[01:54:00]  I think John's spot on about that.
[01:54:02]  Like, you had your shot.
[01:54:04]  If that's the case, I don't know.
[01:54:06]  But if that's the case and that's what some people are saying, well, you had your shot and you missed.
[01:54:12]  Now everyone's awake to it.
[01:54:14]  Yeah.
[01:54:14]  Everyone's like, oh, shit.
[01:54:17]  Like, you know, the number of people who were inserting a quarter into the Alex Jones was right again jar today.
[01:54:24]  I mean, that's a big fucking jar right now.
[01:54:26]  Yeah, it's a big fucking jar.
[01:54:27]  I'm very critical of a lot of stuff Alex Jones does and says, but I'm one of these guys like, yo, when people are right, I'm going to shout that from the rooftops.
[01:54:36]  And Alex Jones was absolutely.
[01:54:39]  150 right on this issue.
[01:54:42]  If they're saying it's rehearsed, they're going to come after Trump, they're going to trap him out, kill him.
[01:54:46]  Deep state government is coming after him.
[01:54:48]  And, like, globalists.
[01:54:50]  Whether or not it was actually who he thinks it was, that's up for debate.
[01:54:55]  But nonetheless, we watched the guy come legitimately at a minimum of two inches from being the next Franz Ferdinand.
[01:55:07]  Yeah.
[01:55:07]  Which, how about Eric Prince still in my line?
[01:55:10]  I love that, bro.
[01:55:11]  I.
[01:55:12]  I used your line three or four times during this podcast with Matt, but I accredited you every time.
[01:55:17]  Thank you, brother.
[01:55:18]  You're welcome.
[01:55:18]  I appreciate that.
[01:55:19]  I always credit your show, too.
[01:55:22]  We love it.
[01:55:23]  Anyone listening, go watch the Julian Dory live stream that he did 35 minute fucking rant, no camera switching, straight from the fucking top, right up the top of his head, no notes, just freestyled 38 minutes of fire on this whole thing.
[01:55:37]  And it was beautiful.
[01:55:38]  It was gorgeous.
[01:55:39]  And I mean, I don't think that.
[01:55:43]  I've heard a better take than from what you said.

=== Nike Shirt Wish List (03:33) ===

[01:55:46]  It seemed like everyone's watched your video and then just kind of like went, you know, riffed off that and went from everything that, you know, all the thoughts that you had and all the perspectives that you had.
[01:55:56]  You called all of your contacts, your military contacts and your, you know, FBI people that you've had on your show and got all their opinions and condensed it into one very unique perspective.
[01:56:09]  And it was fucking great, dude.
[01:56:11]  Yeah, I appreciate that a lot, man.
[01:56:13]  Danny called me.
[01:56:15]  Came out okay.
[01:56:15]  I just called Matt Cox and said, hey, we got to go do a podcast.
[01:56:18]  Yeah, that's it.
[01:56:21]  Because me and Matt just me and Matt Cox just watch a bunch of TikToks and then develop an opinion off that.
[01:56:28]  Oh, God.
[01:56:34]  All right, bro.
[01:56:38]  Well, we're about to wrap up.
[01:56:40]  My phone's on like 2%, but I'll hit you up in a little bit.
[01:56:43]  Later.
[01:56:43]  All right, I think I figured out the audio.
[01:56:47]  Oh, we did?
[01:56:47]  All right, here we go.
[01:56:48]  Demolition Ranch guy responding to.
[01:56:50]  The shirt.
[01:56:52]  Wow, 1.4 million views in four hours.
[01:56:54]  Can't imagine.
[01:56:57]  So, as a lot of you guys know, and we were shocked and confused to find this out the shooter who tried to assassinate Trump was wearing merch from my channel, wearing a Demolition Ranch t shirt.
[01:57:18]  And that sucked to see that.
[01:57:23]  Yeah, that was rough.
[01:57:26]  So this t-shirt, we also own a t-shirt company.
[01:57:32]  Bungers.
[01:57:32]  It's based out of my hometown right here.
[01:57:35]  And my friends work there.
[01:57:37]  And we make these shirts.
[01:57:39]  We print them here in Texas and ship them all over the world.
[01:57:43]  I've seen my shirts in every continent.
[01:57:46]  I got a picture like two weeks ago of a guy wearing my shirt in Antarctica.
[01:57:51]  And so.
[01:57:53]  We don't vet the people who buy our shirts, obviously.
[01:57:56]  It'd be impossible to, just like Nike doesn't vet who buys their shoes.
[01:58:00]  I wish I could.
[01:58:01]  I would love to keep people like that from buying, wearing, being associated with that article of clothing.
[01:58:07]  I wish he couldn't get a shirt.
[01:58:09]  But it happened.
[01:58:10]  And I think the difference in a gunman wearing a pair of Nike shoes and a gunman wearing my t-shirt is this brand is much more personal to me than Nike is to its executives.
[01:58:27]  And so to see my name next to the shooter's name, oh, it sucks.
[01:58:35]  And I wish, I wish we could keep that from happening.
[01:58:37]  So no matter what side you're on politically, none of us want violence.
[01:58:43]  This channel was never meant to incite violence or hate.
[01:58:48]  It never has, it isn't, and it never will be a channel that does that.
[01:58:54]  I don't want any violence or hate anywhere around me.
[01:58:57]  I have a wife and little kids.
[01:58:59]  I want them to be safe and secure forever.
[01:59:02]  And the videos I put out, I want to make sure that is the same for everyone who watches my videos, that they aren't in any more danger because of my videos, of course.
[01:59:12]  And I know you guys know that.
[01:59:13]  I have 11 million subscribers who have been watching me for over 10 years and know that I am not that kind of person.

=== Jack Black Pretending (08:59) ===

[01:59:20]  This is mostly for the people who are just tuning in to see if I am a guy that is trying to make people do stuff like that.
[01:59:29]  So, I am not.
[01:59:32]  Obviously, I don't have to explain that to you guys who know me, but I feel like I might need to say that for those who don't.
[01:59:38]  It's crazy.
[01:59:39]  That's an unfortunate situation.
[01:59:41]  The guy was just trying to look like a Trump supporter and wearing like an American shirt.
[01:59:45]  There's probably guns on the shirt or whatever.
[01:59:46]  He was trying to blend in.
[01:59:47]  And unfortunately, he picked a fucking Demolition Ranch shirt.
[01:59:51]  I don't think anyone blames that guy.
[01:59:53]  You can't blame him.
[01:59:54]  No, but it sucks for the guy, though.
[01:59:56]  Well, because people are going to.
[01:59:57]  But the people that are reaching out are just idiots.
[02:00:00]  Of course.
[02:00:00]  Yeah, the people that are reaching out to just think you.
[02:00:03]  People trying to make a story out of nothing.
[02:00:06]  It's just, yeah.
[02:00:06]  They're probably like mainstream news media type people trying to make a story out of this shit and get clicks.
[02:00:14]  I forget.
[02:00:14]  What was the guy?
[02:00:15]  What was the chick's name that was on?
[02:00:16]  I forget.
[02:00:17]  The guy's name.
[02:00:18]  He's got kind of a conservative show.
[02:00:20]  And she goes on there and she's like, Why do you think some neo Nazi or something subscribed to your channel?
[02:00:28]  And he's like, Are you joking?
[02:00:30]  Like, what are you talking about?
[02:00:32]  Like, you know what I'm saying?
[02:00:32]  People are so out of touch, man.
[02:00:34]  Like, how does that have anything to do with me?
[02:00:37]  So it's crazy, man.
[02:00:39]  Every, you know, the majority of like the mainstream media, the shit you see on television or you see the shit that you see being Written about in like the mainstream publications like New York Times and Washington Post or all this.
[02:00:51]  These are all opinions and pieces that are written by people who live in fucking New York and Los Angeles.
[02:00:59]  Right.
[02:01:00]  Right.
[02:01:01]  That's the consensus of that.
[02:01:03]  That's like, you know what's happening when it's all coming from those places.
[02:01:06]  And they think that their opinions are more important than the people living in the rural parts of America.
[02:01:12]  Right.
[02:01:14]  Oh, yeah.
[02:01:14]  Because just like they say, like all Trump supporters are stupid, stupid, poor white people.
[02:01:20]  Right.
[02:01:21]  Exactly.
[02:01:22]  Like, I mean, I have a college education.
[02:01:25]  Right.
[02:01:25]  And I think people are figuring that out too.
[02:01:27]  And like we were talking about earlier with the whole Civil War thing, like, I think that guy made that video about Civil War and like California would be against Texas and they would cut off California.
[02:01:36]  I don't know.
[02:01:37]  I think California, I mean, it's obviously a blue state, but those are like condensed into like the cities of LA and San Francisco.
[02:01:46]  From my experience, the majority of people that I know from California, they're like either.
[02:01:51]  Right wing, or they're like closet conservatives.
[02:01:54]  Like the people that are closet conservatives.
[02:01:57]  It's like that weird little bubble of LA where it's like you have to be liberal to be able to fit into that industry to keep your job and to keep getting work.
[02:02:05]  You know?
[02:02:05]  Well, you have to understand that he's basing it on the fact that, like, hey, the whole state, the government, the state government is at war.
[02:02:19]  You know what I'm saying?
[02:02:20]  So if you're a farmer in California, you're saying, I disagree.
[02:02:23]  Well, that doesn't mean that the The National Guard isn't going, the California National Guard isn't going to go to war.
[02:02:29]  You know, they're saying that, hey, the people in charge of that state's nationality.
[02:02:32]  The people in charge of the National Guard, yeah.
[02:02:34]  Are going to go after it.
[02:02:35]  That has nothing to do with, like, there's always going to be a population.
[02:02:37]  Yeah, it doesn't matter as much.
[02:02:39]  Yeah, there's tons of people that are going to be, you know, that are going to be caught within the state saying, I disagree with what Florida is doing, but I'm trapped within Florida and there's a civil war.
[02:02:50]  Do I uproot my entire family and try and move to a blue state right now or does it just hunker down?
[02:02:55]  Right.
[02:02:55]  So.
[02:02:57]  But that's what his.
[02:02:58]  If you watch that video, it was so great.
[02:02:59]  It was, it's, it really, you could watch it on the way home.
[02:03:02]  I think it's like 45 minutes.
[02:03:03]  I got a fucking launch.
[02:03:04]  You'd be super.
[02:03:05]  I think we actually just, you reached out to him that much longer.
[02:03:07]  I tried to reach out to this guy.
[02:03:08]  I'm going to try to get him on here too.
[02:03:09]  We tried to get Tyler to reach out to him.
[02:03:11]  Tyler can't get in touch.
[02:03:12]  Really?
[02:03:12]  Yeah.
[02:03:13]  And Tyler's, you know, tenacious.
[02:03:15]  Dude's a fucking ghost.
[02:03:16]  Did you see, by the way, did you see the video of fucking Jack Black?
[02:03:19]  Yeah.
[02:03:21]  But I didn't, I, I, Jack Black was like saying, find a better shooter.
[02:03:24]  Don't miss next time.
[02:03:25]  Yeah.
[02:03:25]  Yeah.
[02:03:26]  I mean, I, I, Like, I could barely hear what he was saying, but I read the comments that were basically that's what he was saying.
[02:03:32]  It was just like, you know, here's the problem when you surround yourself with yes men, you know, you start to think that everything you say is clever and funny and that everybody agrees with you.
[02:03:44]  Yeah.
[02:03:45]  That's why these people, when they go on like Fox News or CNN or they go to these panels and they start spouting their propaganda, and when people push back, they're like shocked.
[02:03:57]  Of course, they're shocked.
[02:03:58]  Right.
[02:03:59]  I have a group of 20 people that I surround myself with that I talk to nearly every day, and they tell me everything I say is wonderful.
[02:04:07]  They never push back.
[02:04:08]  So the moment there's pushback, they immediately typically crumble or they start going, you know, they get upset and they start calling people names or they.
[02:04:16]  You know, that's Jack Black.
[02:04:18]  I'm sure he surrounds himself with a bunch of people that say he's just wonderful.
[02:04:21]  Everything he says is hilarious and they agree with everything he says.
[02:04:24]  And then he says it in the wrong forum.
[02:04:26]  And it's like, oh, wow, that's not coming off well.
[02:04:30]  Yeah.
[02:04:30]  It was Kyle Glass, not Jack Black.
[02:04:32]  Kyle is his partner in Tenacious D.
[02:04:34]  Oh, okay.
[02:04:35]  Oh, Kyle is this guy.
[02:04:37]  That's that guy.
[02:04:37]  Yeah.
[02:04:38]  Okay.
[02:04:39]  Jack Black, wasn't Jack Black just recently at some like political convention?
[02:04:44]  They hired him.
[02:04:44]  They hired him at.
[02:04:45]  That's super left.
[02:04:47]  They hired him at like one of those conventions, and he was like, he got up basically talking about how great Biden was and how fucking Trump was Hitler.
[02:04:57]  Yeah, these people say these things.
[02:04:58]  Who's the other guy?
[02:04:59]  De Niro?
[02:05:01]  Oh, yeah.
[02:05:01]  De Niro.
[02:05:02]  What a meltdown that was.
[02:05:03]  Like, what a colossal fuck up.
[02:05:06]  Like, it's the same thing.
[02:05:07]  You surrounded yourself with all these people that think you're wonderful, and then you say, hey, I'm going to go and I'm going to hold a press conference and I'm going to do this and say this, and then it backfires on you.
[02:05:16]  You know?
[02:05:19]  Oh, this is his video.
[02:05:19]  Is that what this is?
[02:05:21]  I don't know.
[02:05:21]  Oh, come on.
[02:05:23]  Is it this thing?
[02:05:23]  What does he say?
[02:05:24]  Turn the volume up.
[02:05:25]  Hit the little volume button at the bottom left of the screen.
[02:05:27]  There you go.
[02:05:28]  Not only the city, but the country, and eventually he could destroy the world.
[02:05:33]  I know.
[02:05:34]  What are you doing?
[02:05:36]  But we vowed we would not allow terrorists.
[02:05:42]  I owe this city a lot.
[02:05:43]  You hear the people?
[02:05:44]  What are they saying?
[02:05:45]  That's why it's so weird that Donald Trump is just across the street.
[02:05:50]  Because he doesn't belong in my city.
[02:05:53]  I don't know where he belongs, but he surely doesn't belong here.
[02:05:59]  We New Yorkers used to tolerate him when he was just another grubby real estate hustler masquerading as a big shot.
[02:06:05]  It's all right, you can pause it.
[02:06:07]  It's the same thing.
[02:06:08]  Whenever most of these guys come up, they never have anything of substance to say.
[02:06:14]  It's always like, he's Hitler.
[02:06:15]  He's a racist.
[02:06:17]  He's a clown.
[02:06:19]  He's a liar.
[02:06:21]  Give me some examples, bro.
[02:06:23]  Yeah.
[02:06:24]  Well, that's the thing.
[02:06:25]  It's like it's a weird psychological thing where they can use Hollywood to propagandize politics.
[02:06:31]  Like if we can get a bunch of famous actors that make a lot of money and that everyone sees on movies all the time to say something, then people are going to fall in line because if these people think this, then we should think this.
[02:06:44]  But since when is the prerequisite to be an actor, to be a fucking thinker, or to be like some political expert or like a foreign policy expert?
[02:06:55]  Your job is to pretend to be other people.
[02:06:57]  Right.
[02:06:57]  That's exactly what their job is.
[02:06:58]  Exactly.
[02:06:59]  That's exactly what it is to pretend to be other people.
[02:07:02]  And Trump is, I mean, his life has been like, is he a textbook narcissist?
[02:07:09]  Yes.
[02:07:10]  Yeah.
[02:07:11]  But he's got some issues.
[02:07:12]  He's got a few issues.
[02:07:16]  He's got a few issues, but he's been fucking buying and selling and building real estate his whole life.
[02:07:22]  Hotels, casinos, golf courses.
[02:07:26]  He, I mean, Say what you want about the guy, or put whatever your politics are.
[02:07:32]  Like, I think it's undeniable at this rate to say that the guy doesn't love America.
[02:07:36]  Oh, no.
[02:07:37]  I, like, I have no doubt in my mind that he loves America.
[02:07:40]  There's no doubt in my mind.
[02:07:41]  Yeah.
[02:07:41]  You know, he's, but, you know, people, boy, people don't like him.
[02:07:47]  What's a fun, what's so fun, what I love is that when he goes out and he's like, it's funny, when I was a Democrat, you people loved me.
[02:07:55]  You know what I'm saying?
[02:07:56]  When he was a, in New York, when he was a Democrat for 40 years and he was donating to all the Democratic parties, they loved him.
[02:08:04]  All the candidates loved him.
[02:08:06]  And then he said, I think I'm going to run as a Republican.
[02:08:08]  I feel like I have more of those types of values.
[02:08:11]  Suddenly he became the, You know, oh, you're a bastard.
[02:08:15]  Well, when I was writing you those checks, you didn't say that, dude.

=== Best Case Airplane Scenario (06:05) ===

[02:08:19]  They got so many ways to try to assassinate him.
[02:08:22]  It's scary.
[02:08:23]  Like, there's the shootings, like, obviously being exposed in public areas surrounded by buildings, right?
[02:08:30]  That's number one.
[02:08:31]  Number two is poisoning.
[02:08:32]  Is he just fucking eating anything people are giving to him?
[02:08:34]  Are you like super paranoid now?
[02:08:36]  You gotta have the secret service check.
[02:08:38]  That's gotta be the worst way to fucking die, right?
[02:08:41]  In a fucking room where no one else is there, you ate some pudding.
[02:08:44]  And you just fucking fell over.
[02:08:45]  Where do you get put?
[02:08:46]  The guy, listen, you could just poison McDonald's.
[02:08:48]  He loves McDonald's.
[02:08:49]  Right, right, right.
[02:08:50]  You know, that's how I want to go out though.
[02:08:52]  Eating like a fucking guy that has to taste test the food to make sure it's not poison.
[02:08:57]  Yeah, I need a secret service.
[02:08:58]  Listen, you saw that tubby little chick that was in front of him.
[02:09:02]  Yeah.
[02:09:02]  She'll try something.
[02:09:03]  She was cowering behind him.
[02:09:04]  Yeah, she'll try something.
[02:09:06]  If you said, hey, would you want to eat a quarter of my mac?
[02:09:11]  Hey, lady, take a bite of this whopper.
[02:09:12]  She's never seen a whopper that she didn't, she wasn't willing to try.
[02:09:17]  Oh, God.
[02:09:18]  And then, you know, they got tons of other, like truck bombs, poisoning the food.
[02:09:23]  There's so many other ways to kill the guy.
[02:09:26]  But airplanes.
[02:09:28]  CIA is synonymous, is fucking, is famous for assassinating people in airplanes.
[02:09:34]  What about airplanes down?
[02:09:36]  I was going to say, I love.
[02:09:39]  Like, is he getting on his fucking air?
[02:09:40]  Like, the balls.
[02:09:42]  They circled Washington a couple of times.
[02:09:45]  The balls.
[02:09:46]  He's flying, what, at least two times a day?
[02:09:49]  Out, you know, granted, he's flying on his own plane, but like if I'm him and I'm flying twice a day across the fucking country, I got my plane surrounded by cameras.
[02:09:59]  I got security watching the cameras 24 7 to make sure no one approaches my goddamn plane.
[02:10:04]  You know, like.
[02:10:06]  So everyone who gets on the plane, the fucking, the whoever, if they have, I don't know if they have like a flight attendant on his private plane or like the pilots, like crazy screenings for those people every time they get on the plane to make sure there's no like suitcase bomb or anything like that.
[02:10:19]  You still, you keep thinking, you have to understand all of that stuff means that the.
[02:10:23]  That the bomber or the assassin is willing to die too.
[02:10:29]  That's a huge, like, yeah, true.
[02:10:31]  I just, there's not a lot of people who are like, yeah, yeah.
[02:10:33]  Oh, what?
[02:10:34]  Yeah, you're going to give me $100 million?
[02:10:35]  Okay, give me the suitcase.
[02:10:37]  Right.
[02:10:37]  That's true.
[02:10:37]  That's true.
[02:10:38]  You're going to be killed.
[02:10:38]  I'm like, what do you mean?
[02:10:39]  I don't care how much money you give me.
[02:10:40]  Right.
[02:10:44]  Yeah.
[02:10:44]  Yeah.
[02:10:45]  It's a surface to air missile.
[02:10:49]  I mean, blame it on Russia.
[02:10:50]  I'm sure there's lots of ways to take them out.
[02:10:53]  But once again, they'll probably take their ball and go home.
[02:10:55]  I mean, at this point, it's just too late.
[02:10:57]  He's too late.
[02:10:58]  He's too far in.
[02:10:58]  He's too far in.
[02:10:59]  Let's just say, let's assume that this was some kind of a coordinated attempt to assassinate him, and they do take their ball and go home.
[02:11:06]  There's still a lot of crazies out there.
[02:11:08]  Like some crazy might still just get them.
[02:11:10]  I mean, I think the kid was just a 20 year old crazy.
[02:11:13]  But, you know, there's still, and either this has done one of two things.
[02:11:17]  It's either, for some of those people, it's either had them say, wow, look how close this guy got.
[02:11:23]  I can do this.
[02:11:24]  Or they've said, I'll never even get close enough in it.
[02:11:27]  So, You know what I'm saying?
[02:11:29]  So, some people it may have emboldened them, and some people it may have said, Oh, I'm not willing to be killed.
[02:11:35]  Like, yeah, this kid, he had a perfect shot, couldn't do it, and ended up dead.
[02:11:38]  No, not interested.
[02:11:40]  So, yeah, I think he probably in November he wins, you know, and that's it.
[02:11:46]  He wins and Biden steps down and he ends the wars.
[02:11:50]  I, huh?
[02:11:52]  And we end all the wars and we die happily ever after.
[02:11:54]  Yeah, I think he probably stops fucking with Iran.
[02:11:57]  He probably, where else are we?
[02:12:00]  We got Iran, we got the Israel Gaza.
[02:12:03]  Israel Gaza.
[02:12:04]  He's, I mean, that's already kind of, you know, on autopilot.
[02:12:07]  He'll probably give him some money.
[02:12:08]  And then, And then just put his support behind them.
[02:12:13]  And then, as far as Ukraine is concerned, I think he's probably going to have a very harsh talk with Putin and say, hey, you know, look, like you keep what you've got, turn around.
[02:12:25]  You got, you know, look, let's, I mean, he's probably just kicked the ball down the road.
[02:12:30]  Like, you're not doing anything on my watch.
[02:12:32]  Or then we're just going to put a bunch of troops and then Putin will say, well, then we'll, we'll nuke you.
[02:12:36]  And he'll say, right, let's do it.
[02:12:37]  Yeah.
[02:12:37]  Let's go.
[02:12:38]  And then Putin's going to go, fuck, never mind.
[02:12:41]  I'll just keep what I've got and I'll, you know, and, Basically, Trump kicks the ball down the line in hopes that they can fortify it over the next four years and hold what they've got.
[02:12:51]  That's it.
[02:12:52]  I think that's probably because I don't see him going in and telling Putin, get all your shit and go home, and Putin being okay with that.
[02:12:59]  But I think he says, hey, you keep what you've got.
[02:13:01]  This isn't going to happen on my watch, and I'll throw all the American troops in there because fuck NATO.
[02:13:07]  And then Putin goes, fuck.
[02:13:09]  Okay.
[02:13:10]  That's the best case scenario.
[02:13:12]  That's really the best case scenario.
[02:13:13]  Yeah.
[02:13:14]  Yeah.
[02:13:14]  I mean, if anyone's got a better chance to solve this thing diplomatically, I think he's.
[02:13:19]  Going to be incentivized to do that.
[02:13:20]  And I think he probably can do it.
[02:13:22]  Even though the funny thing is, even though Biden has made it abundantly clear he doesn't mind getting into a war, right?
[02:13:29]  You know, he just, he's just limited on what he's doing.
[02:13:32]  It's very, it's very, you know, like, and it's very.
[02:13:36]  Yeah, not only that, they're, he's, he's actively avoiding that.
[02:13:41]  Like, there were multiple peace talks early on in this whole war where there was like, there was a victory Ukraine had over Russia early on, an early battle where Russia was on their heels.
[02:13:52]  And one of the top generals in the military was basically saying, like, now's the time to go to the negotiating table.
[02:13:57]  We can actually negotiate a fucking ceasefire here and end this thing.
[02:14:01]  And Biden's White House was like, fuck off.
[02:14:04]  No way.
[02:14:05]  Yeah, that's a mistake.
[02:14:06]  John Mearsheimer talks about this endlessly.
[02:14:10]  So I don't know, man, but I think if anyone's going to solve these world problems, I think me and you are going to do it right here on this podcast.
[02:14:17]  So they need to get a hold of us and get us in Washington, get us in the White House.
[02:14:21]  Two guys that know about 3% of what's really happening.

=== General Ceasefire Articles (05:02) ===

[02:14:25]  How long did we just do?
[02:14:26]  That was like a three hour podcast, man.
[02:14:27]  I thought it was going to be an hour, but we went.
[02:14:29]  It was a two and a half.
[02:14:31]  Two and a half.
[02:14:32]  That was close.
[02:14:33]  Two and a half.
[02:14:33]  That's great.
[02:14:34]  Cool, man.
[02:14:34]  Well, thanks, Matt.
[02:14:37]  This was fun.
[02:14:39]  Shout out to your YouTube channel.
[02:14:41]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[02:14:42]  I got a YouTube channel.
[02:14:43]  Killing it.
[02:14:44]  It's doing pretty good.
[02:14:45]  You're blowing up, dude.
[02:14:46]  It is doing pretty good.
[02:14:47]  You're doing how many podcasts a week now?
[02:14:51]  Well, I mean, we're posting three, sometimes four.
[02:14:54]  But you're recording how many?
[02:14:56]  Four.
[02:14:57]  That's nuts, dude.
[02:14:58]  Sometimes more.
[02:14:59]  You are a fucking machine.
[02:15:00]  Listen, I had one today.
[02:15:04]  I had one today.
[02:15:04]  I don't know.
[02:15:05]  You know, the guy, and I've had a couple of these where, like, the person, you know, they're like, oh, like, you know, hold on.
[02:15:11]  I'm going to smoke a fucking fatty before I start.
[02:15:14]  And, you know, I'm like, you know, because you're texting.
[02:15:17]  Let's say it's not in person, but let's say it's a remote.
[02:15:21]  Well, sometimes they are in person.
[02:15:22]  Like, the guy gets stoned in the car and they show up and they sit down.
[02:15:25]  And then it's like, Like, I don't know why these guys think that's a good idea.
[02:15:29]  I guess because they've never smoked, they never got, you know, whatever.
[02:15:34]  They've never smoked some dope, sat down, and then tried to tell their story, obviously.
[02:15:39]  They're usually hanging out with their friends, watching TV.
[02:15:42]  Well, when you sit down and try and start thinking chronologically and telling your story, it breaks down.
[02:15:48]  You realize right away, this is a bad idea, bro.
[02:15:51]  So they're not all Boziak.
[02:15:53]  Boziak will take a ton of stuff, a ton of fucking drugs, and be perfectly fine.
[02:15:57]  Well, not the first podcast he didn't hear.
[02:15:59]  I gave him two gummies, and he was blasted.
[02:16:02]  Oh, was he?
[02:16:03]  Oh, I thought he was kind of.
[02:16:04]  Fine.
[02:16:05]  You were like, oh, this guy's not going to be able to move.
[02:16:06]  Well, no, even you said after his first podcast, you're like, he was all over the phone.
[02:16:10]  Oh, he was.
[02:16:10]  Yeah, he was.
[02:16:11]  He was.
[02:16:11]  But he was still semi functional.
[02:16:13]  Oh, yeah.
[02:16:13]  No normal person wouldn't be able to tell.
[02:16:15]  This guy's texting me, telling me, like, he's going to hold on.
[02:16:19]  Give me five minutes.
[02:16:19]  I'm going to light up one real quick.
[02:16:22]  And I went, yo, bro.
[02:16:23]  I said, that's probably not a good idea.
[02:16:26]  I said, I've had multiple people who've done that.
[02:16:28]  You know, they've been doing this for a few years now.
[02:16:29]  Like, it never works out.
[02:16:31]  He's like, oh, I'm just fucking around.
[02:16:32]  I'm not going to do that.
[02:16:33]  Just give me five minutes.
[02:16:34]  And then he gets on there.
[02:16:36]  We went an hour.
[02:16:37]  And I'm going, hey, and here's the thing like, I saw your paperwork.
[02:16:43]  So I've seen your paperwork.
[02:16:44]  Like, I know what you're telling me is true that you did get this much time.
[02:16:49]  All of these things did happen.
[02:16:50]  You were charged with these crimes.
[02:16:52]  I've read the articles.
[02:16:57]  But when I'm asking him questions, he's like, you know, he's like, yeah, bro, like, I got to be arrested, like, I don't know what he said, eight times, seven, eight times, seven, eight times.
[02:17:06]  And I went, I said, oh, I said, like, well, like, for what?
[02:17:09]  Like, you know, like a bunch of stuff.
[02:17:11]  Like, what?
[02:17:13]  You're like, I don't know, man.
[02:17:15]  Like, a lot of different things.
[02:17:16]  Like, I, anyway, so, so then, and he just kept going.
[02:17:19]  And then there was another time where he was like, Oh, I'm making this, I was making this much money.
[02:17:24]  And I remember the article had said he had made several million dollars.
[02:17:27]  And I was like, Yeah.
[02:17:27]  So I was like, So what kind of, what are you spending that money on?
[02:17:29]  He's like, Um, you know, I, stop.
[02:17:35]  Like, you know, we're like, I mean, I don't really know.
[02:17:38]  The bar is low, huh?
[02:17:39]  And I'm like, You don't, you made, Five or six million dollars, and you don't know what you spend any of it on?
[02:17:46]  Did you buy cars?
[02:17:47]  I don't know.
[02:17:49]  I mean, and I was like, I've read the articles.
[02:17:53]  You know what I'm saying?
[02:17:53]  It's like he was so fucked up that I kept thinking he'll get better.
[02:17:58]  I finally just said, Listen, bro, we got to stop.
[02:18:02]  I put it on pause.
[02:18:02]  I said, Listen, I said, How do you feel you're doing right now?
[02:18:05]  You said that.
[02:18:06]  Yeah.
[02:18:06]  I said, How do you think?
[02:18:07]  And he goes, Not good, man.
[02:18:11]  Not good.
[02:18:13]  I mean, he said, Listen, I know you told me not to, but I got fucked up.
[02:18:16]  Before him, I was super nervous, a lot of anxiety.
[02:18:20]  I'm anxious.
[02:18:22]  And I went, Yeah, I said, here's the problem.
[02:18:25]  I'm asking you questions that you should know the answers to.
[02:18:28]  And you're like, Oh, I don't know.
[02:18:30]  Like, you don't know?
[02:18:32]  You don't know that when you were at the counter and you used a credit card and the guy said, I got to call the manager, whether or not he called the manager?
[02:18:39]  Yeah, bro.
[02:18:40]  Like, I can't remember.
[02:18:41]  You can't remember whether this is a huge deal.
[02:18:45]  And I go, I mean, bro, like, I'm sorry, but.
[02:18:48]  I said, I don't think you're bullshitting.
[02:18:49]  I read everything.
[02:18:50]  I saw, I know what's going on.
[02:18:52]  I know you got arrested.
[02:18:53]  I know what happened.
[02:18:53]  I said, but you got to do better, bro.
[02:18:56]  And he goes, Yeah, I, and he just, next thing you know, you see him moving, boom, he just disappeared.
[02:19:03]  He just accidentally disconnected.
[02:19:06]  Wow.
[02:19:06]  So you're going to post it?
[02:19:08]  Now people are going to want to watch it.
[02:19:09]  No, it's horrible, bro.
[02:19:11]  And the worst thing is, it would be different if I thought, You're fucking bullshitting me.
[02:19:17]  But he sent me all this stuff, and I've read all the stuff.
[02:19:20]  There were newspaper articles, and he's in them.
[02:19:23]  He sent me his paperwork from being arrested and what he was charged with and his indictment.

=== Draft Pans Donate Happen (09:16) ===

[02:19:28]  This is true.
[02:19:28]  You just got so overwhelmingly fucked up and you were so anxious, you could not tell your story.
[02:19:35]  And so I texted him, I said, Hey, bro, I don't know what happened.
[02:19:37]  I think you just disconnected.
[02:19:38]  I said, Look, I get it.
[02:19:39]  I said, Do you want to reschedule this?
[02:19:42]  He's like, Bro, let me just think about this.
[02:19:44]  Like, I don't know.
[02:19:45]  I shouldn't have got fucked up.
[02:19:46]  I'm so embarrassed.
[02:19:46]  I'm so sorry.
[02:19:47]  And he apologized and I get it.
[02:19:49]  But it was just like, you know, like these guys, they come on the, like I said, the bar is low.
[02:19:55]  And this guy has an amazing story, by the way.
[02:19:57]  Like, it's a dark, with guys on my channel love dark.
[02:20:01]  Web fraud kind of story.
[02:20:02]  Oh man guys, do you think you're ever going to venture out of true crime and cover some more stuff?
[02:20:07]  You know I did once or twice i've done some like UFO stuff right, and and and, like a few of them did really well, like we'll probably want some.
[02:20:16]  One of my top 10 videos uh, is probably like a UFO video yeah, but um, but then I did a few more and then they start very quickly they start dropping it.
[02:20:27]  Trust the, they don't, they don't get a lot of views and then Um, you know, every time I venture out, like I'll venture out every once in a while, some guy's got a crime story, like it's almost like he's trying to work in his crime story, like I, you know, like he did six months or what else are you interested in besides true crime stories?
[02:20:46]  I just like what do you, what do you like, what other kind of what other type of stuff are you like interested in talking about?
[02:20:52]  Or, um, you love talking about China, we've done a bunch of China podcasts, I feel like I'm over China.
[02:21:02]  And I just don't, you know, if luckily I typically have a little bit more knowledge than the person I'm talking to.
[02:21:09]  So you can semi sound like you know what you're talking about.
[02:21:12]  But and the problem with China too is that like there's so many things going wrong right now, you know, and it's just getting worse and worse.
[02:21:20]  Like I'm just interested in like, it's such an interesting time to be alive right now.
[02:21:24]  It really is.
[02:21:25]  And you know, here's maybe it's not even that interesting, Danny.
[02:21:28]  Maybe it's just that the access to the information is so overwhelming at this point.
[02:21:32]  Like it was probably always disinterested.
[02:21:34]  Interesting, back in the 70s and 80s and the 90s when I grew up, they just, the.
[02:21:39]  There's no internet.
[02:21:40]  There was no internet.
[02:21:41]  So I don't have a clue what's going on three states away.
[02:21:44]  But now it's just you wake up, you fucking grab your phone, and you're instantly drowning in information.
[02:21:51]  It's insane, dude.
[02:21:52]  I'm also super interested in like this whole how, like, the.
[02:21:56]  In Japan, you know, that there's just tons of just abandoned houses and their working class is disappearing and all these people are old.
[02:22:08]  Like, there's nobody to report.
[02:22:09]  Place these jobs.
[02:22:10]  And that's happening everywhere.
[02:22:11]  It's happening in Japan.
[02:22:12]  It's happening here.
[02:22:13]  It's happening everywhere.
[02:22:14]  So I'm like, it's neo feudalism, dude.
[02:22:16]  It's insane.
[02:22:17]  Like, what's going to happen?
[02:22:18]  Like, what's going to happen?
[02:22:20]  What's going to happen when there's not enough people in Japan to pay into their social security style system to pay the people that are retired?
[02:22:29]  Like, what's going to happen when?
[02:22:31]  Same thing with here.
[02:22:32]  Like, what happens when there's not enough people to pay in to support the people that have been paying in?
[02:22:37]  Right.
[02:22:37]  I mean, they're like, oh, it's going to collapse.
[02:22:40]  Like, they're not going to let it collapse.
[02:22:43]  But they basically just sent enough money to Ukraine that you could have fixed it.
[02:22:47]  So I know they'll fix it, but it's like, how?
[02:22:50]  And, you know, so those things worry me, but unfortunately, I'm not smart enough to come up with a solution or have it.
[02:22:56]  You don't give yourself enough credit, bro.
[02:22:57]  You're super smart.
[02:22:58]  Everyone I talk to, they talk, they brag about how smart you are.
[02:23:01]  I'm just because I'm a con man.
[02:23:03]  They just don't know.
[02:23:04]  They don't know.
[02:23:05]  I'm fooling them.
[02:23:06]  No, you're smart.
[02:23:08]  Like, what's going to happen, bro?
[02:23:09]  Yeah, I don't know.
[02:23:10]  And also, do you see that they're talking about there's like reports of, Of the military times talking about like bringing back the draft, and there's lots of countries like France and Germany they're talking about bringing back the draft.
[02:23:21]  Nobody wants to be in the I think they're protesting.
[02:23:23]  I think it's getting so bad they're protesting about it.
[02:23:25]  They're like seriously contemplating bringing back the draft.
[02:23:28]  But there are other countries where you have to go in for two years or four years or six.
[02:23:34]  You have to.
[02:23:36]  And here we're, listen, people, when my mother would tell stories, this is during World War II.
[02:23:40]  She was a little kid in World War II, like six, seven, eight years old.
[02:23:43]  She remembers when they put out flyers and the newspaper came out and they said, listen, any extra pans that you have, they're going around, they like, And this isn't like government, they had guys in a little outfit.
[02:24:01]  It's the government, but they'll get a truck.
[02:24:04]  We're bringing a truck around through all the city neighborhoods in these blocks in this area for the next week.
[02:24:10]  If you have extra pots and pans, bring them outside and give them to us.
[02:24:15]  They're building liberty ships out of them.
[02:24:18]  Could you imagine if right now they said, hey, we're going through your neighborhood?
[02:24:21]  If you have extra metal pans, donate them.
[02:24:24]  We're not buying them, you're giving them for the war effort.
[02:24:28]  And you know what?
[02:24:29]  They had so many of them they didn't know what to do with.
[02:24:32]  If they did that now, nobody'd give anything.
[02:24:35]  Hell no.
[02:24:36]  They'd be like, oh, fuck you.
[02:24:37]  It's like, you don't realize how good you have it.
[02:24:40]  They didn't have it one tenth as good as we have it now, and they're giving everything they can.
[02:24:46]  We got four pans, but we can live off of one.
[02:24:49]  I got three kids to feed, and I got one pan.
[02:24:52]  Fuck it, give the other three pans.
[02:24:53]  I want to help build a ship to help defeat Nazi Germany.
[02:24:57]  And now, people wouldn't, they wouldn't donate a dollar.
[02:25:01]  No.
[02:25:01]  You know, it's so, so sad.
[02:25:03]  And they won't.
[02:25:04]  Here's the real problem is like with the U.S., I don't think you'll.
[02:25:08]  I think the real problem is, and this is what really sucks, is that the U.S. is so isolated, we'll never be invaded.
[02:25:17]  Does that make sense?
[02:25:18]  Yeah.
[02:25:19]  Yeah, we're surrounded by two oceans.
[02:25:20]  Right.
[02:25:21]  Like we've got the best, you know, we have the best geographical setup.
[02:25:25]  Right.
[02:25:25]  So we're always going to be in a great position.
[02:25:27]  The problem is economically, we may be devastated.
[02:25:30]  And that's what China and Russia and everybody's working on, right?
[02:25:33]  Absolutely.
[02:25:35]  But.
[02:25:35]  But, like in Europe, they've been invaded so many times, at least they have that fear, you know?
[02:25:42]  And so, just like that, I forget his name.
[02:25:44]  He's a British politician, where he's like, other countries aren't, they're not teaching their children to hate their country, you know?
[02:25:52]  Like, they're not in Russia, they're not preaching to hate Russia and hate the government of Russia and the country of Russia.
[02:25:59]  Like in the United States, you're being raised to hate your own country.
[02:26:03]  Yeah.
[02:26:03]  So, I just think that.
[02:26:06]  It's just so sad when I think it goes to what Bustamante has said on this podcast many times is we need an enemy to be able to unite.
[02:26:16]  It's like the 9 11 thing.
[02:26:17]  It's like that 9 11 showed us a real existential threat, and people banded together like no other after 9 11.
[02:26:26]  And we haven't had anything like that.
[02:26:28]  We don't really have an enemy, so we fight ourselves.
[02:26:31]  Those countries over there in Europe, they've been through so much hell in the last 100 years that it's like, I mean, even if you're Even if you're like in your teens, there's like you have your relatives telling you about it.
[02:26:44]  You have the epigenetic fucking fear built into you of what's been happening in that part of the world.
[02:26:50]  You're surrounded by other countries and other foreign governments and militaries all the time.
[02:26:56]  And you see these atrocities every decade or so.
[02:26:58]  There's some atrocity where one country's invading another one and then they're wiping out an entire race or trying to.
[02:27:04]  And you're like, you know, like the Serbs, you know, when they invade Croatia and the Serbs and then they're going around with.
[02:27:11]  Hit squads, like you know, it's possible.
[02:27:13]  It's happening a couple hundred miles or kilometers away, or whatever you say, wherever they are.
[02:27:18]  I forget what this is, but kilometers.
[02:27:20]  Yeah, it's not far away.
[02:27:22]  Like, oh my God, that's only two countries away.
[02:27:24]  Like, that's a five hour drive and I could be there.
[02:27:26]  And right now they've got hit squads going around killing Croatians.
[02:27:31]  But we're so far removed that we just think that could never happen.
[02:27:35]  So the idea of saying, hey, there's a draft and people freaking out, like, you can't make me this.
[02:27:39]  You can't, like, I'm not doing that.
[02:27:41]  Like, bro, what are you going to do if they show up on our borders?
[02:27:45]  The problem is they're not going to show up on our borders.
[02:27:47]  And the pro, yeah, that's the problem.
[02:27:48]  And if there was a draft, like, the problem is people are waking up now to how, Much bullshit is wrapped up in these wars, and how it's just fueling this military industrial complex and growing.
[02:28:00]  It's just a mechanism to grow our GDP and dominate the rest of the world and install democracies in the rest of the world.
[02:28:08]  Like, we can't just worry about ourselves.
[02:28:09]  Did you see?
[02:28:11]  So, why would you want to be drafted into this fuckery?
[02:28:14]  I mean, I hear you.
[02:28:15]  There's what are you fighting for?
[02:28:17]  You're fighting for some billionaires, like, and you're fighting for this fucking fake democracy of people running this fucking brain dead puppet.
[02:28:28]  That we don't know who the hell's running it, but they obviously their moral standards aren't what they used to be in this country with the bleed as far as leadership goes.
[02:28:37]  Did you see this?
[02:28:38]  Did you ever watch the series Fallout?
[02:28:41]  No, oh my god, Steven?

=== Blue Collar Editor Series (03:56) ===

[02:28:44]  Oh, yeah, I heard it was great though, right?
[02:28:47]  It's so, I you know what?
[02:28:49]  I think you told me about this before, I meant to watch it and I just didn't.
[02:28:52]  It is, it's, it's, it's, it's so, it feels so, it sucks.
[02:28:55]  I don't get to spend as much time watching good shows anymore.
[02:28:58]  What's great is that it's everything you just said, it's like.
[02:29:02]  It's like capitalism and the industrial complex gone wild.
[02:29:06]  Like in the 50s, like what if it didn't taper off?
[02:29:10]  You know, instead it goes wild.
[02:29:13]  And then it gets to such a point where they start a nuclear war because they built these bunkers and we can survive the war.
[02:29:21]  I mean, it's insanity.
[02:29:23]  Like the.
[02:29:24]  Right.
[02:29:24]  But the problem is the bunkers, it's going to be all the billionaires and the fucking joint chiefs of staff and all the politicians flying around in their jet with their fucking.
[02:29:33]  Pocket books full of all this lobbying money.
[02:29:35]  And while us, the working class blue collar podcasters, like, we don't make it.
[02:29:41]  We don't make it.
[02:29:42]  Blue collar.
[02:29:43]  He just said blue collar podcasters.
[02:29:47]  Not you, man.
[02:29:48]  You just went up at the tax bracket.
[02:29:49]  I know what's going on with you, Matt.
[02:29:51]  You're not classified as blue collar anymore.
[02:29:54]  But, anyways, thanks again.
[02:29:56]  This was a great podcast.
[02:29:58]  You got to watch these.
[02:30:00]  I know.
[02:30:00]  I don't have time, man.
[02:30:01]  I'm raising two kids.
[02:30:02]  I got.
[02:30:03]  I don't have the luxury of time that you and Julian have.
[02:30:06]  Your wife is ready to study all this shit and spend all this time.
[02:30:11]  My wife's raising the kids.
[02:30:13]  She is raising the kids.
[02:30:14]  But I'm busy too, man.
[02:30:15]  I do a lot of shit with my kids.
[02:30:16]  I'm not a fucking absent father.
[02:30:20]  When are you going to cut up that sizzle reel?
[02:30:23]  We just got done filming it, Matt.
[02:30:25]  Give us a break.
[02:30:26]  He has to pace himself for a week.
[02:30:29]  I need a week long breather.
[02:30:32]  We have to hire him for 45 minutes.
[02:30:35]  We have to hire an editor.
[02:30:37]  So, if you're an editor out there and you're watching this, we are now hiring an editor to cut up a sizzle reel for one of Matt's books that we're turning into a pitch for a television series or a documentary.
[02:30:48]  Whatever.
[02:30:49]  Either way, hit us up.
[02:30:50]  A series.
[02:30:50]  No, not a series.
[02:30:51]  Maybe just.
[02:30:52]  It might be a four part deal.
[02:30:53]  More like a doc.
[02:30:54]  More like a doc series.
[02:30:55]  Yeah, like a limited doc series.
[02:30:56]  Yeah.
[02:30:57]  All based on the story of you meeting Ephraim DeViroli from War Dogs in Prison and his scam against Warner Brothers to basically sue them into oblivion, conning you into writing the book.
[02:31:10]  The lawsuit, the whole thing.
[02:31:11]  It's super good.
[02:31:12]  And we've been filming it for the last few months.
[02:31:13]  We interviewed DeViroli.
[02:31:16]  We interviewed Pete Rossini.
[02:31:19]  We interviewed FBI agent Jim DiOrio.
[02:31:21]  We interviewed you.
[02:31:23]  Yeah.
[02:31:23]  Who else?
[02:31:24]  Packhouse.
[02:31:25]  Yeah, I already mentioned Packhouse, did I?
[02:31:26]  Oh, okay.
[02:31:27]  Yeah, he was one of the first ones.
[02:31:28]  I thought you said DeViroli.
[02:31:28]  Sorry.
[02:31:29]  Oh, no, no, yeah.
[02:31:29]  We didn't interview Deborah Rowley.
[02:31:30]  We interviewed Pacquiao.
[02:31:31]  Yeah.
[02:31:32]  But yeah, we want to put together a sizzle reel.
[02:31:34]  It should be super cool.
[02:31:35]  But we need a talented, talented editor to help us out.
[02:31:39]  Yeah.
[02:31:39]  For what do you need?
[02:31:40]  Three, five minutes?
[02:31:41]  Three minutes?
[02:31:42]  Five minutes?
[02:31:43]  Five minutes sizzle.
[02:31:44]  Five minutes sizzle.
[02:31:44]  Yep.
[02:31:45]  Could be banging.
[02:31:47]  And I've actually already written out a semi sizzle.
[02:31:53]  So kind of a loose leaf, kind of like how I thought it should go.
[02:31:56]  How we can edit it and draw it out.
[02:31:58]  Yeah.
[02:31:58]  But, you know, whatever it is.
[02:32:00]  Comes up, whatever somebody comes up with something better.
[02:32:02]  I mean, I'm a novice, I don't really know what I'm doing as far as the sizzle is concerned, but yeah, but we've definitely got the footage.
[02:32:07]  Beautiful, thank god, Steven was here to shoot it.
[02:32:10]  And yep, Steven did most of the work, Steven set it all up.
[02:32:13]  Steve was a cinematographer, and uh, Danny drove us to Miami.
[02:32:17]  I just was the driver, pretty much.
[02:32:18]  Yeah, all right, tell everyone where they can find your YouTube channel, follow your podcast, all that stuff.
[02:32:23]  Let's wrap it up.
[02:32:23]  I gotta get the out of here.
[02:32:25]  Listen, to be honest with you guys, can do better.
[02:32:28]  I'll be honest, it's Matt Cox inside true crime.
[02:32:32]  If you have some time, check it out.
[02:32:34]  Four podcasts a week.
[02:32:35]  Matt's a goddamn workhorse.
[02:32:37]  Knocking it out.
[02:32:37]  We'll link it below.
[02:32:39]  Good night, everybody.
[02:32:41]  See ya.